NBA Preview With Ryen Russillo, Hank Is Back From San Francisco And Super Bowl Clean Up + Guys On Chicks

Summary

Pardon My Take – NBA Preview With Ryen Russillo, Hank Is Back From San Francisco and Super Bowl Clean Up + Guys On Chicks

Date: February 11, 2026
Hosts: Big Cat, PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Special Guest: Ryen Russillo
Episode Theme: Super Bowl breakdown, Patriots fan misery, NBA trade deadline and playoff preview, inside Barstool drama, and "Guys on Chicks" Q&A

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Quick Episode Overview

This episode kicks off with Hank's return from a harrowing Super Bowl trip to San Francisco after his Patriots' loss. The crew reflects on the game, its fallout, bad beats, and Barstool-infused Super Bowl week. Ryen Russillo then joins for a detailed, often hilarious, NBA trade deadline recap, playoff predictions, and league gossip—sprinkled with Barstool humor and inside jokes. The episode closes out, as always, with wild and earnest crowd Q&As in "Guys on Chicks"—plus, Zach's quest for love and the invention of "promies."

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. The Super Bowl Hangover: “Tough Loss for Hank & the Patriots”

• 00:20 – 16:00
• Hank is back from San Francisco, reeling from the Patriots’ Super Bowl loss.
• He talks about the grind of being a die-hard fan, the emotional toll, and the relentless trolling from co-hosts.
• Reflects on the “too good to be true” Super Bowl week: "It was literally too good to be true...everything outside the game was beyond perfect." [06:10 – Hank]
• $40,000 wager lost on the game—Hank takes it in stride: “It’s worth it for the Patriots to lose. That’s a hell of a deal.” [07:20 – PFT]
• Patriots and Drake May’s arm injury are debated: “He was a warrior. His shoulder was the difference.” [11:51 – Big Cat]
• Team optimism lingers, with Hank looking forward to the Patriots’ future, undeterred by outside hate.

Notable Moment

• [13:30] Blind QB Playoff Stats: PFT runs a blind resume comparing playoff QBs to illustrate Drake May's tough playoff stretch, leading to debates about injuries and excuses.

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2. Post-SB Reflection & Barstool Dynamics

• 16:00 – 41:00
• The crew jokes about Super Bowl rituals: the weirdness of the winning QB at Disneyland, tax takes from Boomer Esiason.
• Sympathy for injured players (Will Campbell), discussion of media coverage then and now, especially how offensive linemen are defended by ex-players on social.
• “We do need loud voices from the O-line community.” [18:50 – PFT]
• The crew roasts Hank for becoming a meme due to his Bad Bunny halftime show "international games" criticism. Internet takes it out of context, leading to classic Barstool in-fighting.
  • “People who listen to our show understand exactly what you’re saying...People who have never listened are just wrong.” [26:01 – Big Cat]
  • "Patriots got beat so bad it made Hank racist. That was the takeaway for a lot of people.” [28:47 – PFT]
• The team breaks down how memes, trolling, and quote cards can make (or break) their reputations.

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3. Hot Seat, Cool Throne (with Sneaky NBA Preview)

• 43:00 – 62:00
• Hot Seat: Love (Diggs & Cardi B broke up after Instagram “unfollows”, wild Super Bowl week rumors); John Shire/Duke for “punched staffer” controversy; John Shire gets trolled for lack of video evidence.
• Cool Throne: Mark Cuban may be poised to reacquire the Mavericks; U.S. Figure Skating Team (Zach’s “Winter Olympics” detour); NBA’s OKC Thunder after LeBron coronates them.
• NBA Segment Seeds:
  • “The Oklahoma City Thunder—they’re asking the current king of the sport, and he says it’s pretty much over…” [61:34 – Zach]
  • Sidebars about LeBron’s hold on the league, top players, and current playoff race intrigue.

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4. NBA Mega-Preview with Ryen Russillo

• 66:00 – 136:35
  [Full segment timestamped for quick reference]

NBA Trade Deadline Winners & Losers

• 72:21 – Russillo: Pacers praised for adding a top-five center and setting up future assets. He predicts a tank-off between 10–11 teams down the stretch.
• 74:05 – “Indiana wants nothing to do with anything that lands from five to nine [in the draft]...if I’m Utah, I’m losing these games.” [74:09 – Russillo]
• 76:27 – Brief debate: Is Presti (OKC) basketball’s Howie Roseman? Is he always fleecing opponents?

League Power Rankings & Playoff Faves

• 92:26 – East power rankings: Detroit (“defensive identity”), Knicks, Boston, Cleveland contending. Cat’s role in New York, and the defensive/offensive ceiling debate.
• 97:30 – Surprised at Boston’s dominance; Tatum’s health cautions for playoffs. “Would [Stevens] risk anything just for one playoff run?”
• 100:14 – Can Philly crack the top tier? Russillo likes Orlando as a sleeper, but questions Embiid’s playoff defense and general health.
• 110:06 – Out West: OKC/Denver debated. Injury rundown: “Do you get to 40 wins before 20 losses? Every champion of the last 5 years...OKC’s done that again.”
• 111:31 – Lakers “dark horse” question: “What point do we do the thing where it’s like ‘watch out for the Lakers’ and they lose in five games, but almost win them all?”
• 113:50 – Suns, Rockets clutch offense issues dissected. Durant’s frustration as a late-game playmaker.
• 115:27 – Top 15 NBA players rapid-fire: Jokic, SGA, Giannis, Luka, Wemby, Ant, Book, Kawhi, Brunson, Jalen Brown, Cade, etc.

Barstool & NBA/League Sidebars

• 120:28 – LA fan indifference to LeBron, Cleveland homecoming possibility.
• 122:00 – Russillo gives an LA “Erewhon” review, athleisure fashion, and thoughts on boat ownership: “Appreciate your own boat. Stop looking at other boats.”
• 128:58 – “I can’t see you retiring. You don’t seem like a guy that’s retired.” [PFT to Russillo]
• 134:05 – All-Star Game: “I hate the All Star Game a lot. It’s for kids…Getting mad at the All Star Game is as boring as the game itself.” [135:00 – Russillo]

Notable Quotes:

• "There's probably someone looking at your boat going, that's good enough for me. I should stop looking at the other boats." [128:50 – Russillo]
• “Detroit is in its own tier in the East right now...I love their default decade with his size...” [94:43 – Russillo]

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5. Guys On Chicks / Zach’s Quest for Love

• 138:57 – end
• Premier Q&A: heavy gambling boyfriend, Super Bowl and Valentine’s Day land on the same day in 2027, and how to properly schedule romance around football.
• Hank and the crew riff on fake holidays, Valentine’s brunch, the hierarchy of football > love.
• Zach answers for his relationship status:
  • “Chicks haven’t been talking to a lot of chicks…interpersonal relationship conversations, I’m not against that.”
  • The crew tries to set him up: "We need a strong alpha type female who’s ready to take control of the relationship and just tell Zach what to do.” [151:32 – Big Cat]
  • “What if we start with a safe word, then talk to women?” [151:21 – Zach]
  • Zach’s type: “I would like women. I’m down with that.” [153:09 – Zach] – collapse into classic Barstool absurdity about preferences, open relationships, dating in 2026.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (by timestamp)

• 06:35 – Hank: “There’s just nothing I can really say or do now. I don’t have anything else left to give. PFT and the haters, they won this round.”
• 07:20 – PFT (on the price of Patriots losing): “$40,000 is a lot…it's worth it. That is a fair price to see the Patriots lose in the Super Bowl.”
• 26:35 – Big Cat (on meme drama): “People who listen to our show understand…people who have never listened are just wrong. They don’t know the inside jokes.”
• 28:47 – PFT: "Patriots got beat so bad it made Hank racist. That was the takeaway for a lot of people."
• 70:26 – Big Cat (to Russillo): “That is why I had no choice but to jerk off to your Instagram story on Friday morning.”
• 92:26 – Russillo (Bulls as stock market analogy): “You feel absolutely cursed when you’re like, the second I sell, it takes off…the worst day trading experience.”
• **111:57 – Russillo:“I can’t wait [for Lakers fandom hype]. It definitely happened last year…Then you watch that Minnesota series…overnight you’re just going, why did everyone pick this team here again?”
• 128:50 – Russillo: “There's probably someone looking at your boat going, that's good enough for me. I should stop looking at the other boats.”
• 135:00 – Russillo (on All-Star Game outrage): “I actually think getting mad at the All-Star Game is as boring as the game itself.”

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Timestamps of Main Segments

| MM:SS | Topic/Segment | |------------|-------------------------------------------| | 00:20–16:00| Super Bowl breakdown, Hank’s pain/trolling| | 16:00–41:00| Media aftermath, Super Bowl memes, Bad Bunny drama| | 43:00–62:00| Hot Seat, Cool Throne, NBA seeds | | 66:00–136:35| Ryen Russillo NBA preview & Barstool hang | | 138:57–End | Guys on Chicks, Zach’s love life, closing bits|

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Episode Tone and Style

• Classic Pardon My Take: irreverent, brutally honest, heavy on inside jokes and Barstool personality.
• Hank’s Patriots devastation is mercilessly mined for laughs, balanced by moments of real emotional honesty.
• Ryen Russillo matches the hosts’ energy: basketball savant analysis with frequent veers into life advice, LA culture, and self-deprecating humor.
• Show moves seamlessly from high-level NBA analysis to “promies” and safe words.

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Final Note

If you’re tuning in for deep NBA season insights, the aftershocks of one of the wildest Super Bowl runs in memory, or just to hang with some of Barstool’s best as they riff on everything from meme culture to brunch strategy, this is a quintessential PMT episode.
Pardon My Take is brought to you by never taking yourself seriously, even when your team just lost you $40,000. [07:20 – PFT]

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[A]

Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, February 11th. And Hank is back.

[D]

Back. Missed you guys.

[A]

Hank, how you feeling?

[D]

Just a little bummed out. I don't know. Super bowl hangover sucks.

[A]

Zach did ask you on Sunday if this loss would. Would. Would be like a one day thing. Was it a one day thing?

[D]

No, no. It's. It's. It's not. It's not been one day. Yesterday was bad. Today has not been much better.

[A]

Okay. It is what it is.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Don't be mad already, Hank. I haven't Even said anything. Also, I'd like an apology for. For the other show where you accused me of feeding Zach questions, and Zach just came at you because you came at him. You told him he sounded like before he spoke, and so Zach's like it. I'm just going to. I'm going to hit you with my hard question first.

[D]

I will not apologize for that. What were you going to say?

[E]

I was just wondering if you consumed any media. I don't know how Patriots fans are handling this. I saw that. That bald Paul was not listening to part of my take Monday because, you know, it's too fresh. The loss is too fresh. Have you been reading articles, listening to any podcasts?

[D]

I listen to Spin Chiclets.

[A]

That's.

[D]

That's about it.

[A]

Interesting.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

They. They came to your defense. Yeah. Hands and Whitney, for people who missed it, came to Hank's defense and said that PFT and I were brutal to Hank and trolled him in a brutal way and were so mean. And then Biz did point out nice fart, and that was. That was it. So.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You think we're brutal to you.

[D]

I never said that.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

I'm asking.

[D]

Basically asking. Asking me to answer for. For Biz and Wits comments, which I had no control over. I did not talk beforehand. I felt. Yeah, I felt encouraged by what they were saying.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Sometimes, you know, you. You feel like you're the only one thinking something, and then you hear other people repeat that, and you're like, all.

[A]

Right, at what point did I troll you?

[D]

Every.

[E]

What?

[D]

At what point? Every day since I've met you for 10 years.

[A]

Fair counterpoint.

[E]

I. When business and Witter are coming to Hanks or not so much business. When Biz and Yandel are coming to Hank's defense, I just.

[D]

One more time. I just try again.

[E]

When Wit and Yandel are coming to Hank's defense, I just. I tune out.

[C]

They're just like.

[E]

They're so unfair to Hank. Do a. To a darling little Henry. I can't believe they do the. Hank has a troll shirt that he wears whenever Max loses and sits next to him on the couch. Hank deserves all the troll. He.

[D]

He deserves more disting thing.

[B]

That.

[D]

That was not a troll shirt. That was a coincidence. I just happened to wear a shirt and Max loses a lot, and it. I happened to wear it on two separate times. That was not intentional.

[A]

I. I did. I did text Whit and Yandel and I said, you guys are pathetic for being like, boohoo. Poor Hank. Hank has a. I actually would estimate 00001% life. I think there are, I would say the majority, the vast, vast majority of Americans would trade lives with Hank. He has a great life. So he got trolled a little, A little bit. A little tiny trolling. The guy lives the perfect life. It's okay. You took a loss.

[D]

Yeah. Listen, and I don't want to get too sentimental, but, but I obviously was, you know, I spent all day, a lot of it was, you know, a normal day of travel delays. Like, it wasn't anything like egregious. It was just, it took, you know, 12 hours for what was supposed to take seven hours. But obviously we were in San Francisco and we're in the middle of writing, writing the book or it's almost done, but everyone go pre order it now. So we've been, I've been reading that and I've been going through pictures and working with the editor on sending them pictures. So I've been going through all my photos, going through the last 10 years. San Francisco Super bowl was 10 years ago, right before this podcast started. So, yeah, when the super bowl ended, it was, you know, now this time, time of year, February. The podcast started in March, but we were obviously right, ramping up to start the podcast and just thinking about how different that Super bowl was 10 years ago versus how awesome the super bowl week was this week. Like, it was one of the most fun and surreal weeks of all time. It was literally too good to be true. Everything, everything was too good to be true for us to actually win the game because everything outside of the game was, was beyond perfect.

[A]

Yeah. And you just had to be followed around by a little troll all week.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Which was, which was fine. It was fun.

[E]

Normal sized troll.

[D]

It was, it was, it was fun. You know, being with PFT and bringing him, you know, to the, to the, to the rally and everything. I, I have to like, admit defeat. Like I'm exhaust. Like I, I can't do it anymore. Like, I feel like I've been just fighting, fighting, fighting defense, defense, defense for the last. It feels like the better part of a month plus, like hardcore. And there's just nothing I can really say or do now. I don't, I don't have anything else less left to give. PFT and the haters, they won this round. Like there's, there's, there's. It's over. Like, the battle is over. PFT has won.

[E]

Well, he lost Super Bowl.

[A]

He lost.

[E]

No.

[D]

Really, I lost $40,000.

[E]

And listen, I, I gotta say, like $40,000 is a lot of money. It is. No matter how you slice it, it's worth it for the Patriots to lose. If you would tell me that I would have to pay $40,000 for every Patriots super bowl loss, I'd say that's a hell of a deal. I'd shake your hand. That is. That is a fair price to pay to see the Patriots lose in the Super Bowl.

[A]

You think this guy wasn't actually rooting for you? No, I know he was.

[C]

I know he wasn't.

[D]

I know he wasn't.

[C]

So.

[B]

Right.

[A]

No, I mean, yeah, go ahead.

[E]

I'm glad. I'm glad that Hank is in. You know, he's seeing things clearly right now. He seems to be in a better mood, a smiley mood. He's getting ready to go on vacation. I'm happy for him that way, too. I, I, it did bum me out to see you on Sunday night. Like, I didn't take that much pleasure in having you, like, sad on the show because you did make me sad, too, so. Well, glad that you're least smiling and that now I can be happy that you're sad.

[A]

I think that was also because the zoom came in a little blurry, so we couldn't really see you.

[D]

Yeah, I also, like, I think the, the people that were like, Max, Max was saying, like, oh, I would be so much if I. The fact that I was not in person. And I knew while we were recording, like, I just needed, Like, I was just kind of, like, tuning out what you guys were saying.

[A]

You're just moving the chain.

[D]

And I was just like, once this, Once this conversation ends, I can hang up this laptop and I'm away from them. Yeah, that was a huge part of it.

[A]

Yeah. You did a good job. You answered all the questions.

[C]

You.

[A]

Do you have any other remaining thoughts from the Super Bowl?

[D]

I underplayed Ma. I, I mean, I underplayed the arm, Drake May's arm. Oh, I like. He. Obviously, it was. It was bad. It was a lot worse than I thought and hoped. So that sucked to read those reports where it's like, his. He had to get his arm shot up. It clearly was not. It didn't look good, and he was. He was feeling it.

[E]

Was his arm messed up for the whole playoffs or just the Super Bowl?

[D]

It was a. He said it was a play that happened in the Denver game.

[E]

Oh, okay. I thought it'd be better if it was just for the Super Bowl.

[D]

It doesn't matter.

[A]

How do you feel going forward? Because, like, that part of it is you Know, there was a whole storyline of the schedule and. And how you got there was like, hey, this is not repeatable. I'm.

[D]

I'm excited going forward. Like, I. I have never been, you know, I'm bought into this Patriots team. I'm excited for the future. I loved being, you know, in San Francisco and seeing all the Patriots fans and. And being reminded that there are all these outside TR. Haters and, like, they hate on the Patriots unjustly. Like, it's just pure hate and anger and. But knowing that there is the community of Patriots fans where it's like. And obviously it's. It's a little corny now, like, that we all. We got. We all we need, but it's like, it's nice to know that there is this huge, you know, group of fans, and going forward, we're ready to fight. We're ready to keep fighting.

[A]

Do you think. Why?

[E]

Do you think it's unjust?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Why'd you use that word?

[D]

Because I just think people are. Hate the fact that they won for so long and then were back. Like, there was a lot of just, like, unbiased negative feelings towards the Patriots, where generally they're just like, I don't like the Patriots. I hope they lose.

[A]

Do you think?

[E]

Okay, so. So the problem with this one was that because it had been so long that, like, they couldn't be open about their secret reasons why they hate the Patriots.

[D]

Well, before it was Brady Belichick and there was a deflate gate and there was, like, things where they're like, oh, this, this, and that. This is why I don't like the Patriots. Mike Vrabel and Drake May are extremely likable, and this team was extremely likable, but people were still like, the Patriots.

[E]

Yeah. No, I actually think Hank is right on the money. And I haven't heard anybody say. When you said unjustly, I thought that you were saying that, like, there's no reason why anybody would ever hate on the Patriots as a franchise. And I was going to disagree with that, but I think Hank is right. There were a lot of people that were rooting against the Patriots that were not admitting that they were rooting against the Patriots.

[B]

Right.

[D]

A lot.

[E]

That's a tougher enemy to fight. It's hard to beat an enemy like that.

[A]

Yeah, right. It's a good point. That's a good point. Are they in the room with you right now?

[E]

No, they're not. They're homesick.

[A]

Hank, do you think Mike McDonald's a good coach?

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Never said do you think he out coached Josh McDaniels?

[D]

Yeah. I mean how could you say otherwise? Yeah, I think healthy Drake mates. Who knows. But you can't really. You can't play that game.

[A]

No you can't.

[E]

Hank, do you think maybe the Patriots.

[A]

What? Max. Wait, hold on. Max is shaking his head no you.

[F]

Can'T play that game. So you. We shouldn't even mention it for the rest.

[A]

Don't play that game.

[F]

Yeah, we shouldn't mention it.

[A]

If we're not gonna play that game.

[F]

We shouldn't play that.

[D]

Yeah, it was. It was.

[A]

He was a warrior shoulder was the difference.

[D]

I'm not saying that.

[A]

With Jared Stidham.

[D]

Yeah, I'm not saying that.

[A]

Or CJ Straubing ass. We're not playing that game.

[D]

No I'm. I said you can't.

[A]

Right.

[F]

It was a play in the NC Championship game but like can't play weather or the other ones.

[A]

Yeah. Bomb Genesis.

[D]

Well no Bonix didn't play Drake may actually like fought through.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[E]

The Chargers and Texans game. That was probably also the shoulder too.

[D]

He threw three touchdowns in the like. What are we talking about?

[A]

Well he didn't have a great playoff run.

[F]

No, he didn't turn the ball over at all.

[E]

I got blind resume. Can. Can we do a blind resume?

[A]

Yeah, listen you're like. You're like 45 minutes from vacation. Just keep saying that to yourself.

[E]

Quarterback 1 this is three playoff games, okay. 822 pass yards, 65.8 completion percentage, six total touchdowns, one turnover. 84.2 QBR.

[D]

What was the weather in those games?

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Because they're weather tab.

[E]

Quarterback 2 I'm not. You don't believe in Weatherlock.

[C]

You laughed.

[E]

You scoffed at me when I brought up Weatherlock.

[A]

True.

[F]

Quarterback 2 It has been a tough playoff for anti weather Hank.

[D]

Yeah, that's for overs.

[E]

Can I get to the shitty quarterback? Okay. Quarterback 2 well now it's a biased poll. You've already 818 pass yards, 7 completion percentage. 818 pass yards, 57 completion percentage, 6 total touchdowns, 8 turnovers, 50.7 QBR.

[A]

QB1. I would want.

[E]

Yeah, I would want QB1.

[A]

Who's QB1?

[E]

QB1's Jaden Daniels. Also to take take Hank's side. Like Hank would never make fun of a quarterback that got hurt. So I think we should kind of back off Drake May a little bit. And the fact of the matter is they just ran out of time because Drake may set a Super bowl record for most passing yards in a quarter of The super bowl in the fourth quarter.

[D]

It's pretty good.

[A]

That's. That goes to Canada. That's a record. That stays.

[D]

It's pretty good. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you have any apologies for Sam Darnold? Sam Donald?

[D]

I'm happy for you to listen to the show on. On Sunday.

[A]

Yeah, I know, but you've had time to think about it.

[D]

I said.

[E]

I said it on Sunday.

[A]

Okay, Okay. I was just asking again.

[D]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I literally started the thing on Sunday by being like, all due respect to Sam Donald, I thought he was going to turn to a pumpkin. He did not. He played well. He was avoiding pressure. Like it's good to say it again to Sam Darnold. I'll say exactly what I said on Sunday.

[A]

Again. Did you see? Hey, we're 45 minutes from vacation, dude.

[E]

We're good.

[D]

You are too.

[A]

I am.

[D]

You guys planned this vacation. I just hop on the bandwagon.

[A]

Yeah. We do take a vacation after super bowl week. Right.

[D]

So you're 45 minutes from vacation.

[A]

I know. I am as well. I'm excited.

[D]

PFT left early.

[A]

Yeah, PFT left.

[D]

I would never.

[A]

Minus 24 hours from vacation.

[E]

I'm. I'm home sick right now. I left last night at 7. Not 24 hours.

[A]

What was the original flight?

[E]

It doesn't matter. I left at 7pm last night. Fact or fiction? I was at work all day yesterday.

[A]

Fact. Fact.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

Did you see Todd Bowles was prophetic with. So there was a story out that after Sam Donald was drafted, his first game as a quarterback, when he won, they asked him, do they have a guy? And he said, I don't know if we have a guy. Asked me again in like 100 games. The Super bowl was 101st game. So we do confirmed have a guy. Todd Bowles saw it.

[E]

That's awesome. So good for Todd.

[A]

Good for Todd. He knew.

[E]

I love that he knew it.

[A]

I also. I have a take. I. I don't know if you guys agree with this. The Disney World thing that they have to do is just punishment. Sam Darnold and Kenneth Walker being in the Teacups right after the game when it's like all you want to do is party with your boys. That sucks. Yeah.

[E]

They probably get paid a lot of money for it though. Yeah, I was thinking about that too. And. And they said Disneyland and said Disney World in California. That didn't hit the same. I don't think that Disney World or Disneyland is a great place for an adult to go as like A Super bowl champion by themselves. If they got family that might actually. No, that. That would kind of suck, too. Like, wake up in the morning and take the kids to Disney World.

[A]

Yep.

[E]

Day after winning super bowl, that's not that great. But I think they probably get paid a bunch of money just to say that and then to spend, like, one day there.

[A]

But the more they get paid, the more they have to pay in taxes. Did you see Boomer Siason? I don't know what it is with him. I feel like every time I see a clip of Boomer Siason these days, he' complaining about taxes. He was just like Sam Donald actually had. He.

[F]

He.

[A]

He played the suit. He lost money on the Super Bowl.

[E]

Yeah. Big T was hot on that yesterday. Big T's been thinking about the tag. That's why he. He will never win a Super Bowl. He doesn't want to.

[A]

Also, he didn't lose money on the super bowl because didn't he have, like. I'm pretty sure he had a bunch of things in his contract that he got more money if he won the Super Bowl. So he definitely didn't lose money on the super bowl and he won a Super Bowl.

[E]

I think Sam Darnold's okay. Yeah, I think he'll be okay.

[A]

It is a very funny take, though, to be like, you know what I'm thinking about the real super bowl is the fact that the California government got more money off of Sam Darnold than he made playing in the Super Bowl. If you can go back in time.

[E]

Newsom should have gone down onto the field and then took cash out of Sam Donald's pocket before he got to touch the Lombardi Trophy.

[A]

Yeah, I saw people are actually being a little bit nicer to Will Campbell today. He did play with a pretty severe injury. He can't. He talked to the media. Was like, I was in a bad place after the game. That's why I didn't talk. I think that's a totally fair answer. Like, I have no problem with that. The fact that, like, he. He got abused on Super Bowl Sunday and has to have a microphone in his face. He didn't want to talk.

[E]

We've come a long way in the last 10 years. Where at In San Francisco. Cam Newton, after the game, did not talk to the media, and it felt like they just. They. All the writers out there sent them directly to hell. After that, they. They just wouldn't stop talking about how Cam Newton didn't talk about. Talk to them about the game and in turn, actually Gave them lots of stories after the game by not talking this year, it was just kind of like, Will Campbell didn't talk to the press. And then we just kind of moved on. And. And then the next day, it was like, yeah, he's very injured. He didn't have a good. He had a bad game. And the clips coming out of him are. Are not good. But knowing that he had an mcl. And then I also like that Vrabel had his back. Said that we're not changing him to guard. He's going to be tackle.

[A]

And the other. The other thing that's playing in Will Campbell's favor is that we are now in a media. Media ecosystem where there are a lot of former offensive linemen who have good followings. Online. I saw tons of dudes being like, he's going to be fine. It's like a technique thing. It has nothing to do with short arms. Like, Mitchell Schwartz did an entire break breakdown. Jeff Schwartz did an entire breakdown. That's going to feel nice that there's a bunch of guys who can actually speak up for the lineman now.

[E]

Yeah, the Schwartz brothers. Yeah, they'll get you. You better watch online. Yeah, yeah, we. We. We do need loud voices from the O line community, though, because for a long time, we've just been watching guys that we think get beat for one reason. Be like, oh, this guy sucks. And we really didn't know what we're talking about until smarter people had to educate us. But, yeah, yeah, I mean, will. Will Campbell definitely did not have a good super. He had a bad, bad game. Yeah. Probably pretty embarrassed. There were a lot of bad moments for him. But I'm not, like, I'm not selling my Will Campbell stock.

[A]

No, the.

[E]

Which I own a lot, by the way.

[A]

Sam Darnold made a million dollars as an incentive in his contract for winning the Super Bowl. So I think he. He ended up okay. The other story that came out of the super bowl is I'm obsessed with Mike McDonald now, and I really want to get him on the show. He is an absolute psycho. I saw two things that were like, holy fuck, this guy's a psycho. One, after he won the super bowl, he was lamenting that the season was over. He's like, I really. I'm sad that we don't have practice tomorrow. He just wants to keep playing. And then two, they were. I think it was a radio interview. Someone asked what. What went through his head when even worry. Got his ankle, you know, sprained his ankle on Wednesday in the walkthrough and he was like, good, good. Like adversity good. He's quoted like jocko. He's like, this is a good thing. We're going to use this. I want my guys to get banged up. Yeah.

[E]

Ice bath guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

He's probably. Yeah. Get comfortable being uncomfortable. Yeah. Finally you have some actual bulletin board material because it felt like they. Everybody was thinking the Seahawks were going to win going into it, so he wanted. He wanted something to overcome. Good for him.

[A]

Yeah. So it was. I. I would really like to get him on the show because I think he'd be a good interview. You agree?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you think there's a chance. What was your last thing that you said to Dave on the way out? Anything? This isn't a loaded question. I'm just asking. Not really.

[C]

We.

[D]

I was walking to the hotel with. With Grinnell because we were going to record and they. We just kind of got separated. Yeah. I don't think we really had, like, a final goodbye.

[A]

The word on the bus from Fasoli was that Dave might have said that everyone was a jinx. So I don't know if the suite's gonna happen again. If they go back, you'll be okay.

[D]

I don't.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, like, I, I. The fact, like, I was, you know, prepared to. To get my own ticket in the first place. The. The sweet part was, was, like I said on Sunday, truly, truly surreal.

[A]

But.

[D]

Yeah. That I have had the feeling of, like, we, you know, who knows, if we get back and if we do get back, there's no way it goes the way it did.

[A]

Yeah. If you lose that one where everyone. And Dave was so gracious to bring, like, he brought, like, 20 people. It's tough to, to be like, yeah, we're going to run it back exactly.

[D]

The same when it was like, the worst game of all time.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's fair.

[E]

And Dave. I mean, Dave. Talk about going through it online right now. I think. I think it's very unfair how people are treating. All he tried to do is spread joy.

[A]

I agree.

[E]

People are asking to him online. That'll teach him a lesson.

[A]

You know what?

[E]

That's going to teach Dave a lesson. And the lesson is going to be, maybe don't be so nice. In the future, we might have seen, like, Dave might turn into a jerk.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. This might be a villain origin story for Dave where it's like, I was trying to be nice by wearing the six rings all around San Francisco, telling Bill's fans, telling Eddie, telling kfc, like, hey, I wish you were here. I'm doing this for you. Now that everyone's shitting on him, he's going to. Yeah, he's going to turn into the Joker.

[E]

I'm a little bit worried, too, because I feel like he spends a lot of time around co workers and he might start to lash out at them first. Instead of lashing out to people that are being mean to him, he might just take it out on the people that he's closest with and that. I just feel bad for the guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I hope he's okay.

[C]

Yeah.

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[A]

Hank, I want to give you a redo if you would like one. What do you think about the bad Bunny halftime show?

[D]

I don't. I don't need a redo, I think. And again, like memes hates me. He, you know, had a chance for like a knockout blow and he took it. Like when I was doing the show, I was talking obviously the.

[C]

Am I getting blamed for you saying this?

[D]

We have had a running joke about international games and your guys whole thing is like, who is this for? Why are we doing this? And I'm like, pro, international, international games and all that stuff. So obviously when I said that, I was talking to you guys like tongue in cheek kind of playing into correct the stuff that you guys said and the halftime performance was bad. I don't obviously really care about the halftime performance. I was trying to just not do soggy sorrows. So I was talking a lot about the halftime show just to delay things.

[A]

And it wasn't in English.

[D]

I don't care about that. The performance like it. Again, who cares? It's a halftime show. I don't even remember who's done some of the house. I know I remember Gaga. That's again, why I, like, I love the Gaga show in, in Houston. Don't even remember who did it in Minnesota or Atlanta. So it's like, who. It's a halftime show. But yeah, then obviously, like, when you take that quote and put it out, being like that, that performance was so bad, it made me never. I hope they never do international games without the context of, like, the season that we've had on this show. Talking about international games. That was tough to see. It was tough to see it for me, was. But obviously it's like he hates me. He, he, he had this chance me, and he took it. So it's like I, I have. There's nothing I can say about that.

[A]

Yeah, you took the shot you posted.

[D]

On your Instagram like I did. I posted it.

[A]

Well, memes told me to.

[D]

It was what it was. It like, it, it, it. That's just part of losing. You have to, you know, eat some. It hurts when it's from your own guys, but it's, it's memes. So I, I, I have to respect this.

[A]

Is this true memes?

[B]

I, I guess I'll just, I'll just.

[C]

Take the fall from everyone.

[D]

Well, when you were making the clip, like, it was the first clip you posted.

[A]

No, no, it wasn't. It was, it was tweeted from Viva.

[C]

People who still clipped it, and I.

[B]

Was like, bikini boy, it's, it's out.

[C]

It's out of the bottle.

[A]

Might as well get some views off it. So then I posted from the part of my take, Twitter, and I just did the same.

[D]

Yeah, again, that's what it is. What it is. I don't, I don't.

[A]

Can I say the honest truth? I, I was laughing so hard because that is such a clear. People who listen to our show understand exactly what you're saying. And you're making a very funny joke about the international games. It's a long storyline, and then people who have never listened to our show, who won't like our show anyway, being like, this is fucked up. How could he say it? And that makes me laugh because they're just wrong. They don't know the inside jokes. You were clear. You're the least political guy I know, and you were making a joke about us getting on you for the international games.

[F]

The other thing that was funny is that it obviously showed that you were just partying at the super bowl all weekend and had no idea how big of a discourse that was online.

[A]

Right.

[F]

Like, you thought that you were. Like, you had no idea how divisive.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

The Bad Bunny thing was online before you said that. You were like, oh, I just didn't.

[A]

Like it, and your team just lost.

[D]

Well, that was also. It didn't. It could have been. It could have been anyone performing. It could have been Billy Strings in the halftime show. I've been like, yeah, maybe not Billy.

[A]

No, you would have liked that.

[D]

I. That it had nothing to do with Bad Bunny or the performance. It was just like, I was trying to not do Soggy Sorrows and. And spending as much time as I could. But, yeah, seeing it, I think I opened my phone. I did the. I did the Simpsons gif. Like, I opened my phone in the morning, felt like death. My. My room looked like a bomb, and I had to pack up and get to the airport, open my phone. Like, did one scroll and was like, nope.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Because I did. I read some of the replies. There was one very funny one that. That Photoshopped your face onto the. The meme of all the guys sitting in their cars with the sunglasses. That. That one made me laugh. Like, there. And there are people being like, oh, Hank. Hank is a big. We got MAGA Lockwood back. I don't think Hank's.

[F]

Lefty Lockwood is dead.

[A]

Yeah, Lefty Lockwood is dead.

[D]

Oh, it's a big week for Lefty Lockwood.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

The MAGA people. Then I got people being like, yeah, Hank. I'm like, no, I don't.

[A]

Like he was making a joke in his team. If the patriots were up 21 to nothing at halftime, he probably been like, that was an awesome generational.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But that's why it's so funny. Removed from context or like, oh, this guy just spouting off about Bad Bunny. But in context. It was such a funny clip. The. You saying that I'm done with all international games made me laugh so hard because it's. That was the thing that's.

[E]

Maybe we sprinkle in, like, Latin week for you at some point this year.

[D]

I like bad, but I. I listen probably more Bad Bunny than any on the show. Maybe Zach has a couple songs on his playlist.

[A]

Zach, are you Bad Bunny? Baboni Baboony.

[D]

But yeah, the.

[A]

The.

[D]

Yeah. And then the. That was like, that would. You guys are the one. Like, who were these games for? And that's when I was like, who is this for? And then it's like, people are like, you racist. It's like, oh, my God.

[E]

Patriots got beat so bad it made Hank racist. Yeah, that was the takeaway for a lot of people. But, yeah. Hank, I love you. Hank.

[C]

I.

[E]

We understood what you're trying to say, and, yeah, Zach, can you give us a little Bad Bonnie? A little taste of Bad Bonnie?

[B]

Bad Bunny. There's a. There's a good Bad Bunny song. How does it go? Nope. That. Despacito.

[A]

You got this.

[B]

I don't remember it. I'm blanking.

[A]

No, this is good. This is.

[B]

Even it out. What's the.

[A]

Put this clip out. Look, we got a guy who knows Bad Bunny on this show.

[E]

I don't even.

[B]

I. But I don't.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

I don't know any of the words. You can just, like, kind of hum along when he's singing it because they're very catchy. So, like, I.

[E]

He could.

[B]

I don't know what he's saying in the songs, but when they come on, you can kind of, like. You can float with the song, if that makes sense.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Really? Just.

[B]

Oh, they got the one where it's like. It's Romanda es mia mia. That's a good one.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. That was good.

[E]

Hank, what'd you think?

[D]

It's great.

[A]

What. What do you think's going through Russell Wilson's head these days?

[D]

Oh, I walked past him on the way out.

[A]

He was at the gate, and I.

[D]

Was like, this would have been so much better if we'd won. And I was walking past him, he. I didn't say anything to him.

[A]

I mean, the. The trade that. When he. When John Schneider traded him, the picks that ended up coming back in that were just all of the best players on the Seahawks. Basically, they reloaded with Russell Wilson, so I guess thank. Seahawks fans should thank him for demanding a trade.

[E]

Yeah. I think Russell Wilson won you guys another Super Bowl. Yeah, the other one, he was very happy for the Seahawks. Or at least, like, publicly he was happy for the Seahawks. It is kind of weird, though, because you know that, like, deep down, and a guy like Russell Wilson, he's like, this kind of sucks.

[A]

It couldn't have gone worse for him post Seahawks, and it could have gone Better for the Seahawks. The other one was. I didn't realize this, but Tyler Lockett was drafted in 2015 and he got traded to the Raiders last year. That's brutal. That is tough. He's a Seahawk and he was not there for any of the. The Super Bowls. For the two Super Bowls.

[E]

Would you rather be Lockett or Logan Mankins, who played on the Patriots forever, never won a Super Bowl.

[A]

Lock it. Just because he went down enough that his body probably feels good.

[E]

He feels great.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. He's got to feel awesome right now.

[E]

He probably feels better than me.

[C]

He.

[E]

His body's just like pain free all the time. He feels great. It's like he's on a drug.

[A]

Yeah. The. I, I don't really have much else from the super bowl other than Sam.

[D]

I'm.

[A]

I continue to be very happy for Sam Darnold. It's an awesome story. And just afterwards, like, he seems like the most humble guy. I know. We've had him on before, but he seems like the most humble guy and just like very appreciative for the fact that he got a second chance because a lot of guys don't get a second chance after having a tough start to his career.

[E]

I have seen some discourse around who's next year's Seahawks. Yeah. And that was on ESPN this morning and Stephen A. Smith said the Bears. And as far as I can tell, who's next year's Seahawks just means who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl?

[A]

Yeah, that's not. There's not really much else that you can like, say, oh, that looks like.

[E]

The Seahawks, like, get a new quarterback and win the Super Bowl.

[A]

Yeah, the Jets. Jets. Kyler Murray.

[E]

Jets might be next year. Seahawks.

[A]

Did you see the report that Kyler Murray. When asked what the Cardinals are gonna do with Kyler Murray, there was a report that he really. He feels really comfortable in Arizona and loves his routine. And it's like, yeah, that's probably why you got to trade him because he's just comfortable. He's a lot of great.

[E]

You know, you're downplaying the routine.

[A]

Big Cat.

[E]

The routine that he has is pretty sweet. It's like he doesn't play that much football.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And he gets paid a lot of money and he lives in a warm city and he plays a lot of video games and he appreciates the routine. So why would he want to change that? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. He, he loves life. Sam Darnold has to be in the top 10 quarterbacks right now. We have to do that by law. I also saw even one. Take one further. I, you know, we'll, we'll do our QB rankings over the summer, but you have to, whoever wins the super bowl, you have to put it in top 10 right away. Right.

[E]

Just have to, I, I, I go top five.

[A]

Top five.

[E]

And the other one, my laws, if you win a Super bowl, you have to go into next season being elite.

[A]

Yeah. The reasons I love the recency bias right after the Super Bowl. The other one that was even more Galaxy brain. Matthew Stafford, top 10 quarterback of all time. I saw that debate. Because he won an mvp.

[E]

Well, all right, pick it. How about this? Matt Safford, he almost got more credit this, this year.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

By scoring all those points against one of the best defenses.

[A]

Correct.

[E]

Of all time. He almost got more credit for that than he did for winning the Super Bowl.

[A]

Correct. The Seahawks had a dominant playoff run and the only team that gave them any type of game pressure was the Rams. And Matthew Stafford.

[E]

I think that should be, that should go on page one of our Matt Stafford for the hall of Fame pamphlet that we distribute.

[A]

Yep.

[E]

It's not the super bowl, it's. He dominated the Seahawks defense and then bullet point number two also. He won a Super Bowl.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Also. I don't know if you guys talked about it on Sunday after I was off, but the, the start of the championship DVD has to be that, that two point conversion.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Pickup, big time sliding doors moment.

[A]

It's that or the loss. The last time the Seahawks lost was to the Rams. The four interception game from Sam Darnold in Los Angeles where they still had a 60 yard field goal to try to win the game, that might have been the start of it too.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

But if that, that two point conversion was a miracle.

[A]

Although I think they might have won the super bowl.

[D]

Still, two home games versus three games in the road is, is wild.

[A]

They only trailed for a minute and I think it was a minute and 43 seconds. And it also is perfect that the entire Sam Donald's entire career was, you know, he's going to turn back into a pumpkin. The turnovers. Turnovers. The Seahawks, we said it on Sunday, did not turn the ball over a single time in the playoff run.

[D]

Yeah, no, they, they, he was, he was more mobile. Like he was. There was a, like a, probably three or four pressures by the Patriots where he just moved. Well, got out of the way and got rid of the ball.

[A]

Well, the, the, the other thing that was kind of mean to you is that it felt like the Seahawks came out of the game, to start the game being like, we're going to have to. We don't know how this game's going to go, so we're going to have to take some risks to try to win this game. And then as soon as their defense started playing, they immediately were like, oh, we actually don't have to take any risks. We could probably just win this. On defense, you saw them, like, settling for field goals, being fine with that, running the ball more, not. Not having. Essentially, Mike McDonald's realized somewhere in the first quarter that as long as we don't have two pick sixes, we should win this game.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, compared to the other super bowl losses where we were in them and it was exciting. Like, that was such a. I can't. I'm sure the casual fans, like, that was the worst super bowl of all time.

[A]

Yeah. But you have to. There is. I mean, you got. You were way too early on the rebuild to be in that spot, and the Seahawks were significantly better. So in a weird way, it's probably not that a Super bowl loss is good, but. But it's got to feel a little less stinging where it's like you were a play away and, oh, my God, they could have won.

[D]

Yeah, I guess. I don't know. Being there, it's like the. The. It was just.

[A]

You're there.

[D]

Bummer.

[C]

Four away.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Who do you. Who do you think had a worse weekend? Will Campbell or Stefan Diggs?

[A]

Did Stefan Diggs and Cardi B break up?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[E]

We can get to it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Did you have a breaking moves, by the way?

[D]

Breaking moves.

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[F]

I.

[E]

There's a.

[F]

There's a different one.

[D]

Oh, there's two what do you got, Max?

[A]

Give us the breaking news. What do you say?

[F]

Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum participated in a 5 on 5 practice today.

[A]

Look at that.

[D]

Oh, yeah, that was yesterday.

[F]

But no, but no. Yesterday they said that he was going to do it. Today he actually did it.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

Huge.

[D]

That's even bigger. Yeah, that is. You're right, Max. That's. That's bigger.

[F]

All right, fine. I was actually. You just got mad at me. Yeah, I was just giving you a layup for you to get back on the track of like. All right, we're on to the next thing.

[D]

I have one.

[A]

But he was trying to be nice to you.

[D]

But that wasn't breaking moves. That was news. That was breaking news.

[F]

I'm just did a. Did a report. I got a. I got a notification from Shams that it was talking about how. How his 5 on 5 practice went.

[A]

Max has been. That was nice.

[F]

I know. No, no. Now you don't care.

[A]

No, you don't care.

[B]

You don't care.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Chasing Tatum is back.

[A]

Max has been nice to you.

[F]

Yeah. This is.

[A]

Has he? Maybe not.

[F]

Yeah, maybe not that nice, but I.

[C]

Haven'T been that mean.

[F]

I could have. I could be meaner.

[D]

When I walked in this morning, was.

[F]

So happy to see him. I'm so happy.

[C]

I've been nice to him too.

[F]

I said, how are you?

[A]

I feel like we're also in a game where Max Memes and I are trolling you and being mean to you, but we can just point to PFT and we're like, we're not that guy. That's what we've been able to do for the last week.

[D]

Yeah, but at least PFT keeps it inside the podcast walls.

[B]

What do.

[D]

You two are just blasting. You guys are just putting me on blast.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[D]

If I posted the Taylor Swift thing.

[A]

Got posted. Yeah, but you would be mad if.

[D]

I posted it on my personal thing.

[A]

Being like I posted myself.

[D]

Got it.

[F]

I didn't post.

[A]

I also don't think the bad bunny thing was bad. I thought it was funny. You. It's so clearly you're not being like. Anyone who's mad at that is a fucking loser.

[D]

Yeah, it's just when the. It's the. It's the clip and I don't really.

[A]

It doesn't also, I don't control my own Instagram.

[D]

Where.

[A]

Where I don't.

[D]

He. I. I asked that and then he said I got approval.

[A]

No, he didn't. Okay, we'll find out about that.

[E]

I've.

[A]

I've also Only calculated canceling Hank one time.

[D]

Yes.

[E]

Tell me about the calculation.

[A]

It was a Seahawks schedule. The Seahawks don't play anybody good on their schedule.

[E]

That one? Yeah, yeah, that one. And you put that one out on purpose?

[A]

Oh, yeah. Can I post Hank halftime talk? Yeah. All right. You know what? Point you, Hank. Yeah, my bad. That's my bad.

[D]

I will.

[A]

I honestly did not think twice about it because I thought it was just you again. You saying I'm done with all international games made me laugh so hard. It's funny. People don't watch the show. I thought, buzz off. What?

[F]

I, I, I was thinking about it.

[A]

You were?

[D]

I know. Memes knew when he was posting it. What three like he, he was, he was like, I'm, I didn't post it first.

[A]

This conspiracy is all on you.

[F]

I did not post it first.

[A]

I had Shane to make one quote card and Max said, don't post it. What was the quote? It was just like, this is America. What are we doing?

[F]

And I said, I said, do not post that.

[C]

So if you still want to get mad at me, that's the only thing.

[F]

I took over and I was like, we should not be posting those, those out of context.

[D]

No, I, I appreciate that.

[E]

That's a solid friendship move for not doing that sometimes, sometimes a little behind the scenes thing. This happened like maybe three times since we've had Shane on board. We'll ask, we'll ask to make quotes of the worst things out of context that we say on the show just so we can look at them and just imagine to ourselves how bad it we actually posted. Just like for our own mental stimulation.

[A]

That's why.

[E]

But that's a good friend. By not posting that.

[A]

My bad. Hank. I, I want to apolog. I posted it after Memes posted it and he posted it first.

[D]

That's all good.

[F]

That's not true. No one in this room posted it first.

[A]

Are we sure?

[F]

100%.

[A]

Okay. All right, good. So none of us posted it first. We followed, we followed orders. What was the breaking news?

[D]

This. Speaking of PR101, this feels like PR101 from the Tigers who have signed Justin Verlander.

[A]

Oh, the schoollanders back.

[D]

Yeah. Signed to a one year deal. But I feel like after, it's like, hey, we didn't like the, what was it? The school. They went to court. Arbitration.

[C]

Arbitration.

[D]

Our fans hate us. Let's bring back Verlander.

[A]

Yeah, they got framber too, though.

[D]

True.

[E]

I tried to explain arbitration one time on the show and then I had like seven People telling me I was nowhere close to really understanding what arbitration was. So if somebody that's smarter than us can explain what happens during arbitration, I would love to see that.

[A]

They just show up and argue about how much you should get paid.

[F]

I'll do some research.

[A]

Yeah, it's Scubal. He didn't actually because I think he won the arbitration almost instantly. Like he says a number, they say a number, they go in front of someone and then they decide whether like what the number is he won. But Boris had him bring both his Cy Young trophies to arbitration in case they like got to arguing. He was going to pull him out. I think Tim Linceum did that back in the day too. Yeah.

[E]

Awesome move.

[A]

Awesome move.

[C]

Smart.

[A]

So Verlander's back.

[D]

Burner's back.

[A]

I feel bad about the clip now. I didn't know it was it. You up that bad?

[D]

It happens. Listen, that's. It's just one of those, you know, I thought it's. You're not going to feel better after a loss. But yeah, you know. Yeah, there was nothing, there was nothing that was going to bring me up. So you might as well just bring me down as far as you can.

[A]

Oh, okay. Should we do Hot seat Cool Throne and then we have Ryan Rossillo on the show Hot seat Cool Throne Hut Seat Cool Throne is brought to you by Pizza Hut. Have you heard about Pizza Hut's big New Yorker? It's Pizza Hut's biggest pizza. Massive 16 inch slices. Slice so big you have to fold them for just $10. $10 doesn't go as far as it used to. But the big New Yorker, it's an XL pizza with fluffy New York style crust and parmesan oregano seasoning. That's a lot for $10. What more could you want? The $10 big New Yorker here is, is a big deal. You can't argue with the math. For a limited time, only order a $10 big New Yorker and solve dinner with six XL slices on New York style crust. By the way, just a reminder, Friday, Tim Woods, Dungeon and Dragons and we're back Monday in studio. So we're taking a vacation. All of us.

[D]

My hot seat is love.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Stefan Diggs and Cardi B. Oh, do they break up?

[E]

They were engaged.

[D]

They. They broke up via being unfollowed. Unfollowing each other.

[C]

Oh.

[D]

The rumors are that Stefan Diggs brought his baby mama and their kid to the game and had him front row seat. And Cardi B. Was upset at that and. And they broke up. I don't know this is all alleged. I'm not saying this is fact, but they did unfollow each other on Instagram, which might as well just be signed Seal delivered. Breakup.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

This. It's tough. I thought they were gonna make it.

[A]

I did too.

[E]

They seemed like a happy, well adjusted couple.

[D]

And credit to Cardi, though, like for. For not being a distraction.

[A]

Except for the robot.

[B]

Right.

[A]

What was the robot thing? She said she was gonna sue. She was dancing with a robot. She didn't she get in a fight too?

[D]

She's gonna fight with like a four year old. But that's just Instagram live stuff.

[A]

No, no. I thought she got in another fight at super bowl week.

[B]

I don't.

[D]

I didn't see that. But either way, if there was. Clearly there was probably. This wasn't an. You know, I'm guessing this didn't come out of nowhere, but she waited till after the game to kind of end things, which respect.

[E]

Yeah. And then Stefan Diggs has court on the 13th.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

So tough week for Stefan Diggs.

[A]

Cardi B reportedly clashing with fellow Patriot Wags ahead of Super Bowl. That doesn't feel good.

[D]

Yeah. Hot seat love.

[A]

Cardi B's very sad.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Cardi B so spins on Cardi B single.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Zach Cardi.

[A]

Oh, yeah. This was a. Cardi B falls to the ground while jokingly giving robot a lap dance ahead of Super Party.

[D]

That's good vibes.

[A]

Yeah, that is good vibes.

[D]

Okay. At Cool Throne is cubes.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Crazy story. Honestly, the team that bought the Mavericks from Cuban bought it because they thought gambling was going to get legalized in Dallas. They were going to build a casino. They had a whole big plan. Turns out they were dead wrong about the gambling getting legalized in Texas. There will be no casino being built, so that plan is no longer, like, happening. So their, you know, investment was. Was pointless. They now want to sell and there's a Dallas group of investors that is trying to work with Mark Cuban to buy the Mavericks back.

[C]

So.

[D]

Cuban. So I, I'm. I don't know how this works. It honestly sounds like Dave and, and Pen just like getting. Getting paid a shitload of money for your company and then just having it given back to you.

[E]

Yeah, well, I, I would assume that the price went up since Cuban sold it. I could be wrong. Maybe it went down. Maybe they. Maybe the previous owners paid a premium for it. I'm gonna wait to hear what Pablo Torre has to say, because he's probably. I. I would imagine this is a big Time him story where he like knows all the ins and outs of it. But it does seem like people bought a basketball team to get into the business, not necessarily for basketball.

[C]

Right.

[E]

Silver should think about weeding those people out next time.

[A]

Yes, I would agree. I would agree. Okay.

[E]

Good job.

[A]

Hot seat. Cool tone. Good job, Hank. Thanks Pft.

[E]

Thanks for Anthony Davis to the new Mavericks ownership. My hot seat is actually Hank kind of took one of my hots. I'm going to pivot. My hot seat is the Arizona Wildcats because they're no longer undefeated. They lost to Kansas last night at the Fog, which was an incredible game. If you watch it. We, we have to go to the Fog at some point.

[A]

Agreed.

[E]

We got to go to Fog Island. It's that has in the last like two years that has skyrocketed up my bucket list of places that I want to go watch a sporting event. And watching it last night was. The atmosphere was unreal. And that guy, Florida Badunga, just the human eraser in the paint was just bouncing all over the place. The crowd was going nuts.

[A]

Bill Self said he's like, the Fog won this game. And you could feel the Fogs one and oh, that's why I love college basketball so much, especially this time of year where every game feels so important and I know there's always the NBA, college basketball discourse. NBA will have its time in the playoffs, but there's nothing like these college basketball games. A midweek game where the crowd and you get true home court advantage and there feels like there's big, big time stakes. And it was, it was going into the game, Peterson, you know, was out again. So it was like, oh, shit. Kansas rallied and it was awesome.

[E]

There's some weird stuff going on with Peterson.

[A]

Very weird stuff.

[E]

It seemed like Bill Self was not happy and yeah, he's just missed so many games and then to have this sprung on the last second. Things are weird in Kansas, but the good news is they played an awesome game without Darren Peterson last night. So they don't necessarily need him. He'd be great to have, but they're really fucking good team without him. And what was the set?

[C]

The.

[E]

Bill Self has never lost on Monday at home.

[A]

He's on big Monday. He's 39 and oh yeah, pretty incredible.

[E]

And then my, my cool throne. Hank is actually. Love you put it on the hot seat. I'm going to put. Put it back on the cool throne. Did you guys see the Norwegian skier guy after he won the bronze medal?

[A]

I did not.

[E]

Oh, big cat. You, you have to watch this. So this dude won a bronze medal. And then in his post ski or whatever press conference, he starts talking about his girlfriend that he recently broke up with. And he says that he met her six months ago, the love of his life. And then three months ago, he made the biggest mistake of his life and cheated on her. And now he's had the worst week of his life because last week he admitted to her that he cheated on her. They broke up. He's been miserable. And then he goes out, wins a bronze medal, does this interview, and he says, I hope that committing social suicide might show how much I love her. I'm taking the consequences for what I've done. I regret it with all my heart. And that. That was his acceptance speech for winning the bronze medal.

[A]

It was a bronze.

[E]

Bronze. If there's one thing I know about women, it's that chicks love it when you use the biggest moment of your life to admit to cheating on them in front of the world.

[A]

The biggest one.

[E]

I think this could work.

[A]

The biggest moment of your life being a bronze medal.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Didn't even win the gold.

[E]

Didn't win the gold.

[A]

I can't get into the Winter Olympics. I'm sorry.

[E]

Not even the guy that cheated on his girlfriend and trying to win her back by admitting to cheating on her to the world.

[A]

I'm going to be very in on the hockey.

[D]

What about curling? If it's on, I mix doubles. Curling also.

[A]

Not that impressed. Mike Trico flying from the super bowl to Italy. Everyone going crazy for that. He probably was sleeping on a. On a bed on his private plane.

[E]

I would love to do that.

[A]

Yeah. Sounds awesome. Like the noise of a plane sleeping on bed.

[E]

You got to watch this interview, Big cap, because the guy. The guy's hilarious. I love it how he's like. If you're a chick watching this at home and your ex boyfriend is just telling the entire world that he fucked another chick when you were dating, what's your reaction to that going to be?

[A]

Yeah, that's kind of crazy. All right, I'll.

[D]

I'll.

[A]

I definitely have to watch that. All right. My hot seat is John Shire and the Duke Blue Devils. Cause we are now three full days after John Shire claimed that a Duke staffer got punched in the face. And we still haven't found any video evidence of that happening.

[E]

So it's out there. It was multiple. I think.

[D]

Wasn't there a streamer that said it? I. I'm actually, I have no. I have zero research done on this topic, so I'm not gonna.

[A]

Yeah, I think he was. I think he's someone who makes a lot of, like, jokes and around. And there was no actual video evidence, which it seems hard to believe. Kind of like when Philipowski said that he got, you know, pushed and tripped and then was doing 360 dunks, like, two days later.

[E]

My understanding is that every. Every assistant coach and team manager on Duke was physically assaulted and beaten to within an inch of their life. And if true, that's bad.

[A]

It's just so Duke to have this happen where. Where there's a court storming and then be like, yeah, one of our guys got punched in the face. But I don't want to talk about that. It has nothing to do with the fact we lost. He.

[E]

Some guy you would see was. Was demanding that if anybody has any video evidence, please bring it forward so that I can immediately review it. I want to say the guy might have been like, an assistant athletic director. Like, very clearly, there's not any video evidence. Everybody had their phones out that time the game was broadcast on live tv. I think it was probably just we lost. I'm pissed. So now I'm just going to get mad at my opponents for, you know, a little bit. When I was leaving the court, the.

[A]

The update from John Shire was talking about the staffer. He's fine. He'. But after the game, what happened was I came back in the locker room, and I see he's got a bloody lip and he's disheveled, and I didn't know what happened. He got trampled on the floor. So the guy fell. So Duke staffer fell and then it quickly became. He got punched in the face.

[E]

Yeah. It became the scene from the Lion King where Mustafa falls off the cliff.

[A]

This is just so Duke. Every time they lose, they do something like this. You have to admit, it's pretty crazy.

[D]

It sounds like victim blaming. Sounds like the guy could have got seriously hurt, and I'm just happy that he's all right.

[A]

Also, the Greg Guard quote was fake. Pft.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

That's okay.

[C]

Yeah, we got got.

[A]

That's okay. Hey, listen. It happens. It happens to us. And then my cool throw.

[E]

Yeah. Hand up. It was a good quote.

[A]

It was a great quote.

[E]

If get got. I. I just thought that it was a college basketball coach.

[C]

When have you not.

[D]

When do you not get got?

[E]

I don't get got a lot.

[D]

You get got often?

[E]

I got got with the. With the Stefan Diggs proposal thing. I got got on that one week ago. Then the great guard Thing. Yeah, I got. Yeah, listen, everybody gets got on the Internet.

[A]

It happens.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

You've never been.

[F]

Where's your guys relationship at? Right?

[A]

Yeah. Where are you guys?

[E]

Hank, you. You got by a picture of a guy driving a forklift over a whale hosing it down.

[D]

I did not get gone. I just reposted it because it was a cool video and I like AI and the advancements of AI.

[A]

Are you guys in a good spot? I mean, this is going to be a good vacation. Yeah, very good vacation.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm. I am excited to be, you know, separate from you guys in. In warm weather.

[A]

Will you be. Will you be partaking in any group text conversations during the vacation?

[D]

If I'm addressed. If I'm depending on the. How the address is made? If it's trolling. No. If it's like a question about work, Possibly.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

No. What. What about some. A lot of times just vibes.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Just guys hanging out.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what? Let's just do a daily fit check in the group chat.

[F]

I'm down for fit check.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Shout out to Roback. By the way. I didn't order. They. They sent me a package and I came back and then today I just took the box of clothes and just put them in my suitcase.

[A]

Love that.

[D]

Didn't have to pack.

[A]

That's great.

[E]

Didn't trust. Yeah.

[A]

Just.

[D]

I don't know. I don't even really know what's in there.

[A]

Love that.

[E]

You just trust.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I actually think Hank and I are on. We're as good as we can be right now. And there's a video that we're as.

[D]

Good as you can be.

[E]

Yeah, we're feeling great.

[F]

You do. Not that you guys are as good as you can.

[D]

Like that. PFT has defeated me. And I was looking forward to taking $80,000 of cash from him and. And all that. And that obviously sucks. So, yeah, like, PFT is good. I don't have issue with him, but I'm not like, I'm down, I'm down.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I think. I think people are gonna like the video that we did, though.

[A]

We.

[E]

We shot a video and we were golfing.

[D]

That feels like on Saturday years ago. Those. Those vibes were great.

[E]

Vibes are great. Hank and I were like, actually rooting for each other in that video, and I. I think it was maybe the most cooperative golf video that we've ever had. We'll see if the views do good on it. If. If it's good, we might have to do more friendly golf videos. We're working As a team, if the views aren't as good, then I. I don't know. We might just have to go back to hating each other. But I. I feel like when Hank gets back from this vacation, he's gonna have battery recharged. He's going to be ready to turn the page. It's gonna be Celtic season. I thought Max brought up a great. A great breaking moves with Jason Tatum has practiced five on five. I thought that was a nice thing that.

[F]

No, we're not supposed to talk about that.

[D]

No, well, it's breaking moves. You brought up a story from yesterday.

[A]

So you. You lost out on a lot of money because you had a future on the Patriots as well. Yeah, I think we should all.

[D]

I kept saying myself, like, during the game, like, because people were talking about the bet, and I'm like. I was like, I really don't even care about that. I'm just excited for the game. And then yesterday it was like, ah, damn. Yeah, I probably should have hedged a little bit. Like, it was.

[A]

There was a lot of money on the line.

[D]

A hundred grand. If I won, I could have hedged for 10.

[A]

I think we should. All right. Now agree that you should get the merch bonus for the Hank dog toys. Okay. How many were you sold?

[E]

Agreed.

[D]

Good deal. Hell, yeah.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

Does that make a good job?

[E]

Hey, thank you, Memes.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, Memes made the. The call to put them up.

[D]

Thanks, Memes.

[A]

So that was Memes call What? Memes. All right.

[B]

Yeah. Congrats, Hank.

[D]

That's nice. I didn't appreciate that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. You deserve it.

[D]

Thank you.

[A]

Kind of like you. You deserve it.

[D]

It was my nil.

[A]

Yeah, it is. It's true. My cool throne is the Chiefs, the Bears, and the Saints, because since this is a really dumb stat, but we love dumb stats on this show. So since 2020, the only super bowl winners have been the Chiefs or NFC teams getting their second super bowl in franchise history. So that leaves us the Chiefs. The Bears are the Saints for next year. So I like that. I like my chances there. Pretty cool stat. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

The Bucks won their second, the Eagles won their second. Seahawks won their second. And then the Chiefs and the Rams. The Rams. The rams won their second as well. 2020. Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

Yeah, let's keep it rolling.

[A]

Yeah. So there's. Yeah, there's some good data there. Right.

[F]

Shuckster is going to be problem.

[A]

Shockster is going to be. I saw the stat, and I was like, oh, fuck. Yes. I was like, oh, God.

[F]

I was already. We were looking at futures on DraftKings. The Shuckster, I think, is 100 to 1 to win MVP next year.

[A]

That's basically stealing.

[E]

What if they get Jeremiah Love? Ooh, that offense is gonna be dangerous.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, Zach.

[E]

Max. Yeah, Max. Is Landon Dickerson and Lane Johnson, are they retiring?

[A]

We're. They're.

[F]

They're taking some time for themselves right now.

[A]

I didn't know that was a thing post football season. Is that a thing?

[E]

Florio. Florio had a big thing on it.

[F]

Florio. Let me tell you something about that.

[E]

Comment on Florio's big thing now.

[C]

They'll be back.

[F]

They'll be back. I think they're in the moment. They were. I think they're upset that, you know, their guy is not going to be back anymore.

[A]

They played.

[F]

They both played through injuries this year, but, you know, a couple months away from the game and, you know, your body starts to heal up a little bit.

[D]

You start to get that itch.

[F]

They'll be back.

[A]

Okay, good comment. Zach. Hot seat. Cool throw.

[B]

My. My hot seat. This week is going to be the rest of the world's figure skating representation because the United States figure skating team has been on a recent absolute tear. Have you guys caught any of it?

[A]

Are we kicking ass?

[C]

We are.

[B]

The thing these. Some of these men and women are able to do on skates, maybe some of the most impressive, like, athletic feats I've ever seen.

[A]

Are you talking about the flip?

[B]

Yeah, we're doing flips, dips, triple spins. Like, what they're able to do on skates, man, is unbelievable. Did you hear about the comeback story?

[A]

No. Again, I can't stress enough.

[B]

Can't get into it.

[A]

I don't know what it is about the Winter Olympics. There's a couple events, like, again, hockey. I'll be all in if I happen to walk by a TV and they're doing ski jumping. Sure.

[B]

Would you be open to maybe just, like, taking a glimpse at some of the figure skating clips later and just give me an honest opinion? If you give it, like, a fair shot.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I can.

[B]

It's unbelievable, man. They got this, like, one of the skaters, I guess, like, unprecedented in the sport. Her name is Alyssa, Alyssa Liu. She competed in the Games in 2022 at 16, retired, steps away from the sport, comes back in the same year, wins a world title, and then gets gold on the team just now.

[A]

Is she us?

[B]

Us? Yeah.

[A]

Fuck, yes. All right, I'm in for that. I think I need, like, 16 gold medals to win that bet that I Made. So let's get those gold medals. Yeah, the better. Let's get those gold.

[B]

I mean, I don't know outside of even like the sport, the events are competing and like the feeling of what it must feel like to like represent your the country's sake at like the biggest stage has to be unreal.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, speed skating. I'm into. I like speed skating.

[B]

The speed skating is impressive as well.

[A]

I love the winter, the summer Olympics. Do you get into winter Olympics at all?

[D]

No.

[A]

Yeah. Anyone in the booth into winter Olympics?

[E]

I love it.

[A]

Really?

[E]

Yeah. I like the ski jump, the high ski jump.

[F]

I mean, now you can start paying attention.

[A]

I think it's also the time during football. Yeah, but the time, you know, I don't know what time it's on.

[B]

That's what I was saying to Max.

[F]

But every Olympics is like that.

[A]

I know. They need to make every Olympics in America.

[D]

I agree.

[A]

Clip that put it out. Every Olympics should take place in America so that we understand the time zones. And no bad bunny.

[D]

And all post game interviews in English.

[F]

I'm going to be pro bad bunny. I'm going to be on the pro bad bunny side.

[A]

Bunny.

[B]

Bad bunny.

[A]

All right. Your cool throne.

[B]

My cool throne this week is just going to be that. We should probably just skip to the end of the NBA season because the Oklahoma City Thunder, they're asking the current king of the sport, what do you think's paired up against them? And he's saying it's pretty much over. So I think that LeBron.

[A]

LeBron is the current king of the sport.

[B]

I would say, like, as long as LeBron's in the league, LeBron is not only the face of the league, but definitely has a weighted opinion on basketball and what he could say as far as like, outside of playing, he's the talent.

[A]

LeBron's the king of the sport right now.

[B]

So as active players go, his nickname is the King self appointed. That is true. There might be like a marketing team and LeBron behind that, but so he is just the king. So I guess definitely a king of basketball.

[A]

Do we think that that's what people.

[D]

Said about the Celtics? It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to get back once the playoffs start.

[B]

Even if we don't think he.

[F]

LeBron is the face of the league until he is no longer.

[B]

He has to be right. What he's done for the NBA ship.

[D]

Luke there to get a star in LA.

[F]

Facts 100%.

[A]

There's no staff.

[F]

LeBron. LeBron is the face of the league until he is no longer in.

[A]

Scotty Barnes, he's future. Future face league. Did you see the Pelicans Kings game last night? Pft. He keeps dropping out. Do you see the Pelicans Kings game last night?

[D]

The fight or. No, that's Hornets.

[A]

Yeah, that was awesome. But Pelicans Kings. Did you guys not see this? I'm not. I'm gonna be.

[F]

The fight was insane, Stuart.

[A]

Just coming out of nowhere.

[F]

There was a lot. I mean, there was a lot to dissect in that fight.

[A]

Yeah, no, I. Memes knows what I'm talking about. I'm going to be hip real quick. I'm not 41 anymore for a second. I guess the Kings and Pelicans both stink really bad. And we're playing last night, and it just became a trend on TikTok for people to make hype videos for that game. Like it was game seven. It was very funny. They were making hilarious hype videos like it was the most important game of all time. And it was just a shitty, shitty February. Two tanking teams, NBA game. It was game of the year. Game of the year.

[C]

And the Kings aren't tanking.

[A]

They just. Yeah, they just suck. Yes, they're tanking. They don't realize it. Okay, good job, Zach.

[B]

Same user.

[A]

Wait, so he said okc.

[B]

His. His quote was, you want me to compare us to them? That's a championship team right there. We are not. We can't sustain energy and effort for 48 minutes.

[C]

And they can't loser.

[B]

That's why they won the championship.

[A]

That's loser talk.

[B]

But if it's loser talk from one of the greatest guys in a sport right now, if he observes him as, like, being far and away the best, maybe there's something to it.

[A]

Okay, well, we're going to talk about it with Ryan Rossillo, so let's do that. Ryan Rossillo is brought to you by our friends at Chevy. Football season might be over, but you know how it goes. The minute the big game ends, we're already talking about what's next. Free agency, the draft, who's getting paid, who's grinding. Because for football guys, there is no offseason. And that's exactly why they roll with the Chevy Silverado. Silverado is a truck that shows up every time. Built to haul, tow, and take a beating. But smartware counts. With modern tech that makes life easier. Big screens, available camera views that help with towing and parking, and a cabin that feels right, whether you're road tripping, heading to practice, or loading up for the weekend during the season. It's mvp, the tailgate. After the season, it turns in to your training camp truck. Hauling gear, tackling home projects, and doing the work that never stops. Because the grind doesn't take breaks. And neither does Silverado. Did you guys see us Chevy Silverado? Put a Silverado ZR2 on top of Castle Rock in the middle of the desert. It's all part of their new campaign. See the USA and your Chevrolet. The whole vibe is get out there, road trip, explore, see the country. Now grab your family or friends and go see the USA for yourself. Check out the current offers and build your own chevy [e-mail] okay. We're also brought to you by our friends at BodyArmor. Body Armor Flash IV. This episode is brought to you by Body Armor Flash iv. Flash IV is packed with electrolytes delivering faster, longer lasting hydration without any artificial dyes, flavors or sweeteners. Whether you're training, traveling, or just feeling the heat, work hard and hydrate hard with body armor flash IV. Grab it at 7:11 today. I'm gonna take a sip real quick. Watermelon punch. That's delicious. Go get a Body Armor Flash IV today. Okay, here he is, Ryan Rossillo. Okay. We now welcome on our guy, Ryan Rosillo, the Ryan Rosillo podcast. Very, very, very, very, very special guest. And we're going to do our NBA preview because it's time. Football is over. Time to look to the NBA. Ryan, it was great hanging with you all week in San Fran. Any thoughts from the week?

[C]

Really good content, really good guests. Feel great about everything. I put out, you know, terrific interviews and it was, was, it was good to bond with staff and everything and feel, you know, it's funny because I think people can really get caught up with stuff that's simple. Whereas like when I left ESPN and I started podcasting and they're like, you're so different now. And then when I left Spotify and I came to Barstool, it's like, oh, your content is. Now you're just doing a barstool thing. And I was like, honestly, it's just the same. And to be honest with you, now I think a lot of those people have a point. So I, I have to just defer to them and go, I guess you have me now.

[E]

I think, I think you made two really strong points.

[C]

Yeah, that's what, that's what people are saying. Like we were able to do like the Steve Young stuff was kind of a retrospective. And then Julian Edelman was like a Bit more of a game breakdown thing, so, you know, you always have to kind of balance it out.

[E]

Yeah, you're right about Jules.

[A]

That was.

[E]

It was piercing.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I already know what every one of these is going to be. Which teams need to take us to the rack more. Should double breasted suits be in for draft night? I just.

[A]

I would like to just rip off the bed and say it was a fucking awesome rack.

[C]

Yeah, well, you know, I would. I would say like, the best summary of the reaction of just being out and about is like, there's a combination of people who think I'm the worst and then a bunch of dudes who think I'm the best.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm like, both are wrong.

[A]

Yeah, it's a good place. You're making people feel, you know, love them or hate them. Well, if you don't love that rack, you're whatever.

[E]

I do love the idea of a guy that, that hated Rosillo until that.

[A]

Yeah, he's like.

[E]

He's actually the best now.

[A]

Yeah. Like, we. We get it all the time when. When people will. Will treat us and be like, Dave Portnoy barstool, pmt. But I love Mikey Betts or like something like that, or like, you know, these guys are cool, but everyone else sucks apart, so it'd be great if we got like a pmt One bite pizza. But Rosillo's tits are awesome, dude.

[E]

The only real one they got.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, Big Cat was helping me like the next day because I was like, well, something happened wrong. Like when. When I woke up to a thousand notifications of, like, texts and calls, I was kind of like, are we at war? And I was totally like, oh, okay, Everybody's screen grabbing this thing. And I was like, all right, well, then I'm. I'm hacked and I'm fine and whatever. And then I was able to get in and I'm like, what the hell is going on here? And so I was really, like. It was weird. It was like a weird combination of like, all right, well, this is super explainable. Like, this doesn't make any sense. I would never do this. And then even like this morning, I'm getting ready, you know, because I get up pretty early to tape on Monday's show after that Super Bowl. It wasn't like anybody was out celebrating after that. Well, no Seahawks fans. But look, it was a slow super bowl, as we all understand. And at 5am I get a notification. It's like Instagram is updating your location 11 times. And I was like, what is happening? Like, what is going on? So, like, it was all this stuff all over again where I'm like, God damn. But I think, look, I think most people, like, understand it. It's not something I would ever do, you know, I wouldn't like, you know, the number of years I've had a phone on social media to be like, hey, this will be funny. Right? I would. I would never, ever have done that. I don't plan on doing it now, even with the change in management partnership. Yeah. So, yeah, I know we talked about on the pod a little bit today, but it was. It was a rough stack of life advice emails, I'll tell you that.

[E]

Yeah, well, I did consider. When I saw it, I thought about making that my story on Instagram too. Just in solidarity.

[A]

I posted my own breath just to.

[E]

Try to muddy the waters a little bit. Like, ye. I. I got it too.

[C]

Yeah. Seven thousand people followed me this weekend. Seven thousand.

[A]

Well, then you got Encore. You know why they're here.

[C]

So I'm like, you guys are about to be really bummed out, you 7,000 dudes. So.

[A]

Well, it was a very fun week hanging with you. You came out with us on Monday with the whole barstool staff, and I will say that I consider you a very close friend. And that is why I had no choice but to jerk off to your Instagram story on Friday morning. So I appreciate that.

[C]

Yeah, look, if anything, I. I care about my co workers.

[A]

All right, that was our NBA preview. Thanks, Ryan. We'll talk to you later.

[C]

I mean, what an awful day to be scheduled for this, like, serenity was like, it might be just the best day to be scheduled.

[A]

Well, we actually should take some blame because we were going to have you on 8am Friday morning, super bowl week. And after a long week, Thursday afternoon, we were like, you know what? Let's just fucking can it. We'll just do zoom next week. If we. If we had kept that, we probably would have. You probably would have gone home with me at midnight and I would have just shown you my tits.

[C]

Yeah, look, I don't even think what time I went home had anything to do with it, to be honest. It was more of. I think there's a. There's a tech issue.

[A]

Yeah, there's a tech issue. We gotta get right at the bottom.

[C]

Yeah. No one's look, you know, hand up, you know, whatever. Whatever. Yeah. Or.

[E]

So when life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. That's not a bad Friday recurring segment. Friday boobs.

[C]

Yeah, it's like, hey, what do they have? What? What? Lane is open over there.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, man, I actually don't want to be that guy.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Now it's too late. It'll never go away. You know, I'll say something about the Hornets and then it's just gonna be. By the way, it's never gonna end.

[A]

Having having that be your thing, like, hey, the dude likes tits. Sign me up. I'm in there.

[E]

Or just like, the guy whose Instagram had tits on it. People will forget. We're. We're very. No, we've had a short attention.

[A]

No, we should do. We should do like the Rudy locker room where we just all put our best tits that we can find on the, on the coaches, on Dave's desk being like, hey, we stand with Priscilla.

[E]

I'm telling you, we got a couple guys here I'm sure would line up for the idea to be the, the. The gatekeeper of the Friday tits account.

[C]

They can have it, man. They can have it.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

All right, let's talk some NBA for real. Who won the trade deadline? Let's start there. And then we want to talk about what's going on in the season. But who won the trade deadline and why?

[C]

Well, that's actually a little tougher answer, you know, because if you look at the Pacers, you're like, you add a top five center in Zoo, and it's such a crazy year because you get this massive reset. You get a team that makes the NBA Finals, but it still was kind of breaking the mode of NBA teams that are super successful, where generally it's like, okay, who's your top 10 guy? It used to be like, who are your two top 10 guys? But there is a little bit more parity now. And then maybe even if you were willing at the peak of the Halliburton run to say, like, maybe he's 10. But for me, it's like, okay, has he always been 10, or are we just doing this now the last couple weeks? So say he's even 10, 11, 12, whatever. You clean up some of your cap stuff, you bring in a top center who's going to make you a little different based on his strengths and Miles Turner's strengths. But no one in the world would want Miles Turnover, Zoo. And then you have a chance at the top four pick here. And depending on what's going on with Darren Peterson's legs, like, if you end up with the number one pick in Darren Peterson, Kansas, you're like, okay, so we were a finals team, and then we get to add somebody like this or one of the other top four. I'm surprised they even had this 26 in play, this 26 pick and play, because it could technically go to the Clippers here five through nine, and then it's protected again 10 through 30. This has happened a few other times in NBA history. We get a little creative with the protection language on this kind of stuff. So I like what they did because they were doing something long term while also making sure that they're tanking. And you know, as an aside, we can do more of the trade stuff here, but there's going to be like 10 or 11 teams that are going to be in an absolute tank off. That's disgusting. I mean, even Utah the other night. Yeah, like a really nice game and they sat everybody in the fourth quarter and people can get mad about it. Other teams get mad at each other, but it's like, you know, when you're doing this, I'm not looking for, like, I'm not going to apologize for it. My pick is top eight protected. If I'm Utah, I'm losing these games.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

And Washington's not going to play their guys. You know, clearly Indiana wants nothing to do with anything that lands from five to nine. I mean, we can go through a bunch of these different teams. I don't even think Milwaukee would want Giannis to come back and play. And even though Giannis was sort of threatening, but then of course he was celebrating even sticking around, which is his own story, they should want to do whatever they can with this pick because they don't have many of them. And Giannis probably shouldn't even want to play and risk health and risk this contract extension that he can get before next fall. So the taking is going to get egregious. Look, I kind of like what the Clippers did despite being stuck because I don't think Darius Garland is this bad. He's a two time All Star, he's 26 years old. He has the other toe that's hurt this year. There's some net rating numbers with him that he's one of the most disastrous, like high minute guys. But when he was right, he was terrific. And Harden, after the terrible start, they're one of the hottest teams in the NBA. It's like, oh, I'm not going to get an extension, I'm out of here. You're like, okay, cool. Fourth trade request in six years. So the Clippers very quickly on the fly from. Well, I guess we just hope that Harden and Kawhi are healthy, and with Zoo like, it shows that we've had these stretches last few years, we can be a really good basketball team. It's not a safe bet. It's a bet that hasn't worked out. They had a pivot within hours, not even days. So I, I, I think there's going to, going to be a time where you'll look at the Garland thing and go, man, they were able to land a player like that for Harden on top of what could be a really lucky landing spot for the pick in 26. And then another first because again, their pick is unprotected in going to OKC this year. And then, of course, OKC is just like, hey, they have contract situations coming up. What could they do? Well, let's trade for maybe last year's Rookie of the Year if he had qualified and had enough games. They give up a first that they don't even need. It's going to be a late first, and now they have financial control over him the next couple of years. So, you know, OKC just winning in the margins all the time.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. So with that trade, Max's initial reaction was that he. So he's obviously an Eagles fan, Sixers fan, but when Howie trades with somebody. Yeah, when Howie trades with somebody for the Eagles, he's just like, you don't want to, you don't want to pick up the phone when Howie calls you because how he's going to get you. And then he got prestige because he, he looks at Presti the same way other guys look at, at Howie. Is that a fair analysis to say that, like, if Sam Presti's on the phone, he's going to get the better end of that deal?

[C]

Yeah, you know, I think most times. But look, Daryl's good at this, okay? I have a lot of respect for Daryl and what he is able to do on the fly and how many times he's like, some people blame the terrible pricing of trades solely on Daryl, because Daryl's had a couple that have gone. I mean, the whole hardened trade for him was ridiculous. And he turns it into this guy that's, you know, one of the best offensive players the game has ever seen and anchors a team that was, like, the only team that was competing with the Warriors. So if it were, I would never put Daryl in the hasn't. You know, Daryl's thinking about every single angle. It makes me wonder if, like, the medicals were something where Daryl's like, I'm actually okay with this. So I understand Max's Point. Presti's in that. Do I want to be on the other side of the Presti deal? But I. It's not like any of these GMs ever have any. Like, look, Presti drafted Poku. Bob Myers drafted James Wiseman. The Seahawks drafted Jalen Milroe. All right, so there. There are the. The great ones always have one thing that you're like, what the hell was he. Was he thinking there? So you could point to a couple Daryl miscues, but I have too much respect for Daryl to, like, have gotten worked on a deal because I think they were in a bit of their own roster crunch. And it does make me wonder, like, how are they able to give up on him this quickly unless they just think, like, his medicals aren't good. I think the McCain thing, too, has a lot to do with. Hey, let's take a flyer on what we saw from last year. Because they're going to have so many financial decisions to make an OKC because they have too many good players.

[A]

Poor Jalen Milroe.

[E]

Yeah, that's a completely. Did you mean super bowl champion Jalen Milro?

[C]

All right, Scout team stuff. You know what? You're right.

[E]

Damn, he was an excellent Drake May for the scout team. Like, perfect Drake, maybe.

[C]

I know you guys already did, like, your whole pod, but what was your. I haven't listened to it yet because I was taping my stuff this morning.

[E]

My take was, are. Are the Seahawks the best team that we've ever seen?

[C]

You'd be good on tv.

[E]

And. And is Sam Darnold elite now? Is he in that top group? I think you got to put him there. He just won a Super Bowl. Best QB in the game, last two seasons, 14 wins.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, my take was that the. What. We kind of had an inkling, but you want to hope for a good game, that the NFC Championship game was a Super Bowl. Those are the two best teams in football this year. And they played two awesome games down the stretch. And yeah, the Seahawks were just better in every facet. And it wasn't even. I know you hate saying it. It wasn't even close. I think if they play that game 100 times, it goes like that a lot of times. Because even the way the Seahawks went about that game, it felt like part of the boringness of it was Mike McDonald saying, hey, the only way we can lose this is a catastrophic fuck up of, like, two pick sixes. So when we get into the red zone, we're fine taking field goals, knowing the Patriots will never Score on us in any consistent basis.

[C]

I don't mind the use of. And it's not particularly close right there, because that was a good use of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because, you know, leading up to it, you're going, all right, well, it's more talented roster, Seattle. But then it gets boring. Like, just constantly go. Because you can be wrong doing that all the time, too. It's like one game in the whole thing. But it felt a lot like, you know, it's something I brought up for the week when the Colts and Pats had that AFC title game where the Colts came back at home and it's like, hey, we could. No offense, but we get to play the Bears.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, this is that we just lost. Or whoever lost this game lost a chance at a ring.

[A]

And it was. It was the Sam Darnold part where people still couldn't believe in Sam Darnold. So they're like, oh, we'll talk ourselves into Sam Darnold being Sam Donald. We saw with the Jets. It's like, if you watch him in the NFC Championship game, he is. And he didn't have. He didn't light it on fire in the Super Bowl. But that team was just a complete team. They were so good. They had so many dudes. I even think the coin toss was very funny when they. When I know it's the captain. So it's not the full team, but the Seahawks look twice as big. When they came out for the coin toss, did the muscle.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

It was like, holy shit. These two teams are not a lesson.

[C]

To be learned there. Like, don't send out special teams guys.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Just sign like, Derrick Henry could have a career till he's 50 just by being the coin toss guy.

[A]

Right.

[E]

Just go out there and look jacked up.

[C]

Yeah. Ted Washington. Hey, dude. Like, we just signed him to the practice squad. Yeah. I think you're right, by the way. They're not even close. Ones that bother me is when somebody goes like, hey, we think Con is Rookie of the Year, and it's not even close. And you're like, actually, it's close. Is it close? It's. It's close.

[A]

Who's who?

[C]

I think Cooper flag has been ridiculous.

[A]

Oh, so it's close that way.

[C]

Yeah. Although I don't know how this happened. Like, the shift towards winning being the difference. Everything. Yeah. All Star. If it's a tie and you're like, this team's seated here and this guy's here. Okay, fine. MVP voting. Like, if it's close on everything else. And then you want to go standings. Okay. But rookie of the year, you know, maybe the. I don't know. Look, every voter is different, whatever the fifth tiebreaker is for all this stuff. But yeah, I don't. I don't.

[A]

Cooper flags very good.

[C]

Yeah. Like, what he is doing right now is. Is ridiculous. You want to talk about being ahead of schedule, like, watching him and his disastrous. Like, think about how special he is considering the one year that they've just had. They trade AD to one team. Don't tell anyone else. Which again, is the biggest flaw. Like, whatever you think about, if you're the most anti Luca guy ever, you're like, okay, fine, but it should be an open market. It should be everybody trying to outbid each other for this. And instead you're like, let me do this closed non listing deal here with a relative. And you're like, what? What is this? And then a year later you're like, hey, let's get off of AD for collection of kind of nothing significant. And because Cooper is so special this soon, you know, like, I look, when he came out, there wasn't any part of us that was like, oh, no one was saying, well, I don't think he's going to be that good. But it was kind of like, offensively, is he going to be at how song. How soon can he get to that level of like. Like, hey, get out of my way. I'm going to take over this possession. And it took a couple months. Yeah. And now he's putting together these performances that not only are terrific on the court, but it's helping a fan base get over, which is What? Like, took 365 plus days to get through the worst transaction in the history of this sport.

[E]

I'm kind of hoping that they. They turn into two of the best players of this entire generation. Like, like this generation's Bird and Bird.

[C]

Luca and Max Christie.

[E]

Yeah. No, Knipple and flag, because that sounds a little racist.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

It'd be very funny to look back and be like, how'd this team lose? Yeah.

[C]

In February, you're saying this. Yeah.

[E]

How this team lose? Yeah. In February, I'm saying it. Yeah. Listen, I watched. I watched the Kid Rock halftime show. I'm allowed to say it.

[A]

Cooper flag. By the way, I told this story last night. I've never felt so stupid in my life, but I was. I bet him for points, rebounds, assists the other night, and he had like 22 in the first half and he just was stuck at 22 for another. For another quarter. And I went. And I. I went on Twitter and I searched Cooper Flag, and the first result was, you're degenerate. And you're searching Cooper Flag's name because you have a bet on him. Go find something else to do. And I was like, God damn it. The guy had just written that tweet and just got me perfectly.

[C]

Yeah, that stings.

[A]

Yeah, stings.

[C]

Hard.

[F]

Hard.

[A]

I just kind of. Kind of looked at. It was like, all right, that's enough for tonight. I'm gonna go to bed. Right.

[E]

I. I have a question. With your permission, I'd like to talk about the Wizards for the first time in the history of you being on this podcast. Just for about 30 seconds, we could do.

[C]

I love the Wizards. Good. Let's go.

[E]

I do, too. I'm a new. I'm a newfound fan.

[A]

I'm.

[E]

I'm born again. So Anthony Davis, there was some. Some chatter out there that he wasn't super happy about going to Washington. Is that all buried now? He's. He's going to attempt to play for the Washington Wizards at some point.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, it's pretty clear with these two transactions. They were like, hey, do you want to join the team? And then also never play. So we can. We can do this. And Anthony Davis is like, hey, say no more, you know, Or I guess the kids would say, say less. I. I got the sense that the tray thing was. It was understood, like, hey, whatever. Whatever's gonna happen here. You can opt out, we'll pay you less, but we give you guaranteed money. It's going to be your team. And there's something to be said, too, about, like, young guys coming in and then just losing all of the time, and then you start taking on some bad habits and not that, like, you know, the Trey winning thing can be a little overstated, where I think there's certain players that have conference finals runs that it's like, is that who you're going to be, or is that going to be a little fluky? I talk about it all the times with teams. You're like, is that the neighborhood you expect to be in, or was it, like, sort of odd that you were there? And there's cases for. For both sides of it. So when Trey has that epic Knicks series where, you know, he looks like the most comfortable, or, I would say the least scared player on the floor, like, there's something to that. I just don't know that long term, there's enough evidence to say, hey, this is winning basketball. So I think Trey would have to kind of take a bit of a step back and find a way to incorporate guys a little bit more. And I know people always look at assists, but it's like, yeah, but there's more to getting your offense involved than just you deciding shot or assist opportunity here. And that's where a lot of players can put together huge assist numbers. And it's like, yeah, but I don't know that that guy is like really running an offense and having everybody feel like they're involved. So Trey, I would hope, and the Wizards have to hope that there's a bit of a reset of like, hey, the market was this stale on you that you went for C.G. mcCollum and Corey Kispert, My guess would be Trey's not going to look at it that way. So that's its own thing, the AD part of it. If there's no extension, which is why you had heard that his side of things were a little upset because there was other places that maybe were willing to give him an extension, I think the Wizards can look at it and say, hey, you need to get healthy and we'll give you all the time to recover. The entire off season, I still don't really mean it, know what that means as far as long term health, but he's under contract next year for 58 and a half million and then there's a player option in 2728 for 63 million. So if you're Mike Winger and in a group that I have a ton of respect for with the Wizards, if you're looking at it going, all right, we bought on him low too and he can want whatever extension he wants, but you're probably one, you're under our control and you're probably not going to want to opt out of the 63 million dollar player option a couple years from now. Even if you could say, hey, I'll opt out and I'd like to do an extension at a lower number but more guaranteed money, there's, there's probably not a number there, at least as of today, that makes sense to them. So they may look at it as just. You can, you can say or feel however you want to feel, but the most important thing for you to get one more contract is to come back and play and we'll bet that you opt in. So we're getting you for two years and we didn't really give up anything and we have two players that again, I'm painting the best case scenario picture here. Two players that immediately raise our floor and then we Figure out the young players that we like around them. And SAR has been so much better this year. I love Keyshawn George, Trey Johnson. You know, there's. It's been a nice rookie year and a stacked rookie class. We probably talking about him a little bit more. You know, sure, there's. There's more that he needs to his game, but as far as the shooting and some of the just athleticism from him, it's been really good. And then you've got Bob and Bilal and figuring out how the rest of these guys are. So when they made the trade thing, I was kind of like, why would you want Trey taking possessions and shots away from all these guys that you're trying to figure out who the two or three guys actually are? But I would also allow, and I'm open to the argument of, well, what were we supposed to do? Just come back and get our asses kicked all over again? On top of the pick that we're taking this year, which again, they're another team that needs a tank. I look, there's one, and I'll finish here. There's one thing you can never forget when transactions are happening, especially with NBA general managers. It's so hard to get any player that's really special that you will look at like the asset management part and go, okay, if this is what the price is, it's not perfect. There could be a downside, but I can't ignore this price. It's like buying a jacket in the summer that you don't need. And you're like, I forgot I even bought it. But you just couldn't believe that it was priced that way. Yeah, maybe not perfect, but that's kind of the way that it always. There's always a deal where I'm like, why would they do that? It's like, oh, it's because it was the price.

[E]

And if you can stay healthy, it could be a good team. Yeah, if you can stay healthy.

[C]

Well, you know, I've heard some people say, like, top four in the east. If everything bounces right, that. That feels a little aggressive with whatever version of Detroit, New York, Boston, if Cleveland could ever figure their out. I still can't believe Orlando is this disappointing. Maybe sniffing it, you know, but for a team that's been this bad, being in the play in.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Is an improvement. And there may have been a push from ownership a little bit here too, going, all right, guys, like, we've had a few drafts and we're still not sure, like, who that real difference maker is. We've got all this cap space. Let's just do this and then figure out who survives around it.

[E]

I think that's a really good point. That, which is that if you've stocked up on some young guys and they're coming up into the league, they should at some point start to play good basketball on a good team, or else their, their ceiling is going to diminish greatly.

[C]

The, the rebuilding fascination that every player has to be like between 18 and 20 and if you have like a 25 year old, that's good, you're like, oh my God, he doesn't fit our timeline. Like that tries to me crazy.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Like if it's 32 in, in three lottery picks, okay, I'll agree with you now, but in a world that is all about competing and learning the right habits, I'm guilty of it sometimes too. I, I try to like assess each situation different, differently, but we can get really caught up in like, everybody's going to be a year or two, how everybody's going to be a new first rounder and you're stockpiling cap space, which is pointless now. And you know, the lottery is just luck. And it's mostly one excited team and nine disappointed teams and that you can't, you can't ever have anybody that's, that's like older on the team. And it's just, it's hard to push back against the position when it's kind of pitched to you. Like, we need to start playing important games at some point so these guys feel like something matters every night as opposed to deep down. We're really trying to lose all these. And they'll keep losing this year, but at least it'll feel different going into camp for the first time for a bunch of young players that are going to experience something that they haven't since they've entered the league.

[A]

Yep. Now the flip side is the Bulls. And what they did was, you know, they, they basically did that in 20, 21, 22 season being like, hey, let's put some decent players together and compete and, and we'll be first in the east for two months and we'll talk about that for the next five years. And now we're seeing the other side of it where they just traded everyone for a. Should I be mad? I should be happy. Here's my, my real take. You tell me if this is right or wrong. I'm happy that they finally said, hey, enough with this playing bullshit. But I'm also mad that it took them so long and they Mistimed basically every asset they had. And when they traded them at. They didn't trade any of them at peak value.

[C]

Yeah, that's the biggest thing with the Bulls is like, you're making it even harder on yourself. You're. You're. You're trading for Vuch, who. You know, I had a team explain it to me, and it's like a really simple rule. Like, if we're bringing this player in, like, okay, who are we right now? Can we win a first round playoff series? Can we win a second round playoff series? Okay, well, no one know. It's like, if we add Vuch, does this mean we're winning a first round or a second round series? It was somebody in the front office. And it's honestly, like, so good. It's such a good rule when you're sitting there on the cusp of like, hey, we make this trade, like, whoever we are, do we bring in Vuj for a couple firsts?

[A]

Right.

[C]

Who could be really nice and like, are we a different team? Doesn't mean it has to happen. Doesn't mean we have to be in. These are conference finals. But does this mean we're an entirely new tier of team? And the answer was no, and they did it anyway. And then it comes back and it looks even worse. And from that time, it's almost like they're. I don't know what kind of market they're looking at with players. Like, when anybody's popping and good for them.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Then it's like, well, we can't get rid of anyone. One like Patrick Williams. Like, do you see that dunk two months ago?

[A]

He's the only one who survived.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No, it's crazy. You go down the line. Levine, Vuch, Caruso, Kobe White, IO, like every single guy, they basically waited till they peaked in value. And they're like, you know what? Let's sit on this for another six months so we can make sure it's a. A second rounder, not a first rounder.

[C]

Yeah, the Kobe White's a disaster because, you know, people could go, well, you know, he wasn't everybody's favorite this year. And you're like, look, some of these guys are too young to be as bad as their prices on the market. And that's like a collective, like, understanding of this market in general is that it was slow, slow. And then guys are going, what? This is all it's going to cost me. Like, if you're the Hornets going, we can have some version of Kobe White closing with all of our Other offensive weapons, one of the best offenses in the NBA. And it's like, let's just double down and keep going more hardcore in the offense because we know these minutes are better than the Sexton minutes. And then, you know, the Bulls are like, cool, we got a couple second rounders. All right, fine. The IO stuff, there's some numbers you could argue. Well, you know, he was better at the count stuff and some of the other stuff wasn't better. But if you're Minnesota, you're like, now we don't have to do the Conley Rob Dillingham minutes, right? Like, can we replace him with IO minutes? Like, I don't care what his net rating is. Like, let's go. This is at least somebody we know. If we stick him with the ball, with the second unit or in some other version of this, he's playing off the ball. Or we're letting Ant get off the ball because I.O. has it. Maybe that's asking I.O. a little too much. But it'd be hard to, you know, I don't know what kind of runs you guys have had with the stock market. I've had day trading runs. I'm so glad I don't do it anymore. But you feel absolutely cursed when you're like, the second I sell, it takes off in the second I buy it. Like, it can't go any lower. I'll just. Who Somebody's gonna buy the dips. The dips aren't gonna buy themselves. And then you're just in this. But, like, which guy is in the machine right now that is just haunting me going, he just bought again. Oh, he just sold. That's what it feels like with the Bulls. The worst day trading experience.

[A]

They really are. They really are. All right, let's talk about teams that actually matter in the East. Give me your 1, 2, 3. How you see. You know who could get to the NBA Finals?

[C]

Well, Cleveland is a 64 win team that I thought was going to be good again. And maybe they, you know, sometimes it's like my age shows a little bit where you go, well, it's not like they've been through that many playoff failures. And it's like in today's world, getting bounced three times. The Knicks, the injuries, the Celtics last year to the Pacers. But it's like, hey, we had injuries. We had injuries. I was like, all right, well, you know, you're the only unhealthy team. I really thought that Cleveland would get over the hump considering the Tatum injury. Right. The Knicks, as much fun as they are. And I think they're a really fun team on the right nights. The imperfections with them. We can get into some of the Cat stuff here as well. And then I thought Orlando had, like, a really good chance. And they're even more disappointing than Cleveland is because that team is so frustrating, depending on the week that you watch them. So Detroit's clearly better than everybody else. Sure, they could shoot it better, and that's why they've been in Kev Kevin Herder. But I don't know how they're going to balance those minutes because it's like, can you have Duncan Robinson and Kevin Herder out there at the same time? Are they going to want to close the defense? They're a defensive identity team. They're absolute dogs. If you watch them off the ball, I can't believe what they get away with. It's not just the OKC Thunder, but, like, and good for them. Like, go for it. Go up and watch other teams try to rebound against Detroit and it's just chaos. And there seems to be something in the league right now where it's like the on the ball stuff, literally everything is called and then off the ball, they're making up for it by, like, going, you can do literally whatever you want. And Detroit knows that in these matchups. And I love their default decade with his size, like, even with more defensive intensity. So I don't love their offense, but they're only a game behind OKC right now. Yeah, if you think about OKC start and where Detroit has been and how good they are defensively, I know they had the weird Wizards loss in this whole thing. Maybe there won't be enough shooting, but I can't really think of who in the east with their flaws I would go with with. Because the Cat things become a real issue. He's now sixth in minutes in the fourth quarter for the Knicks since January 1st. So you're seeing his minutes decline. You know, the other thing with Cat is he's always been a 52, like, 40 split guy shooting, and this year he's like 42, 36. So when Cat isn't like, hitting it from a historic rate from the floor or from three, and on top of his defense and the fact that you're 1 through 5, not 1 through 5, but at 1, at 5 is Brunson and Cat like, you see that get exposed defensively. Mitchell, Robinson. Mitchell Robinson's so good. Like, he's even better than I thought. I finally started coming around on him last year because we all had to. He was that good in these games, how impactful he was with the offensive rebounds. I wonder what that team looks like fully formed and what kind of decisions Mike Brown makes with them. Or he could. Does he, like, bail on Cat in specific matchups? Because he's already starting to do it in the regular season a little bit here.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I can't believe Boston is this good, but go ahead.

[A]

Yeah, no, your third team. So. So it sounds like Pistons, Knicks, but it's a problem. But would you say Celtics? Is Tatum gonna come back?

[C]

No, I don't have the answer to that. You know, I wonder if all of these great athletes, part of their rehab is lying to themselves about what their timeline is. So instead of hitting rehab, being like, whatever, I'll see you guys in 26, 27, that it's just better to plant the seed. When there's photo availability at a practice, you go out there and you start taking shots and everybody freaks out. Out talks about. And Ben Simmons has done it for like five years, so he was. He was like a pioneer.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

With the, hey, is the media out there? Let me dunk. And then not play in the playoff game. I really do. And like, having Fred Warner on every week. And we were kind of. Well, not every week, but like, staggered post his injury. And then it was like, is he going to come back in the playoffs? Is he going to be able. Oh, if they had one more week, would they have been played? And then when it was kind of like all said and done, it's like, yeah, he wasn't gonna play this year. Year. And we talked about it. So I don't know if Brad Stevens, like, would. Would he go if he wasn't 100% certain? And everybody was like, if they felt like we've got to massage him back and he's on a minutes restriction and you're. And you're not like, just coming back and playing a regular season game. You're going to do a minutes restriction in the playoffs with that kind of intensity. And that's the first thing you're jumping into.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Where it's like almost like a pitcher where you can go, hey, I could throw 80 pitches in a regular season game, but 80 pitches in a playoff game may be a completely different level of stre, even if the number is the same. I don't know. But I feel like it was more accepted that, hey, be ready for him to come back. Where I would think Brad Stevens would never, ever want to risk anything with his guys just for the sake of having More firepower for a playoff run. I, I can't believe they're this good, by the way. I cannot believe they're this good in the three seed in the East.

[E]

I, I would agree with that. I think that Brad Stevens is too smart of a guy to, to risk it on that. I also think that, that he, that Tatum probably wants Missoula to think that he wants to come back so that Missoula will be like, that's my guy. He's a dog. He's going to come back. Even against the, the best wishes of, of Brad Stevens. But then Brad Stevens will say, no, we're shutting this down. We're not going to do it. I think Tatum's kind of caught in between. He's not going to play, but he wants his coach to think that he's trying to play.

[C]

Well, that's some Jiu jitsu right there that you just explained.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Which would, which would align with a guy.

[E]

Mental gymnastics.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Missoula.

[A]

Sorry, go ahead.

[C]

No, I don't really have anything more to that other than. Yeah, if it's super confusing, like you just made it and it's Missoula, I agree.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

How about that?

[A]

Do the Sixers have any chance. I want to get Max's juices flown again.

[C]

You know, to sit here and say, look, Detroit is, is in its own tier, okay? And depending on the week, like we've got teams separated two through six by three and a half games, Toronto can put together some nice stretches. I still don't know that Toronto will have the best player at any playoff series, depending on who the matchup is. I mean, Cleveland, despite this disastrous year in comparison to a 64 win team, and then trading out multiple pieces, including what was supposed to be the backorder of the future for James Harden, who, all right, he's going to put up regular season stats, you're going to play really slow. It's going to be sort of annoying. Once he doesn't have the ball in his hands, he's done with the possession, he just taps out. And then his playoff resume is dog. So good luck. I don't, I don't know that any of these teams like Philadelphia. I still haven't given up on Orlando just because when I watch them certain nights, I'm like, how can these five guys not be the second or third best team in the east here? But Philly has every reason to think that they're in this as well because of, of how great Maxi is, how special VJ already seems to be. Getting to see him in person last week was a treat in a game that other guys are missing. And you know, Embiid's gonna put up the counting stats. He's, he's shown signs of just being healthier, which is terrific. I think people get a little too carried away with his counting stats because he's just, if you get it to him open in rhythm from the free throw line, it's a layup for him and all he has to do is make, make a few of those. He's going to get his free throws. He's going to get some put backs like he's, it's an easy path for somebody that talented with the way he's fouled to get to his 30 points. But it's going to be about some of the other little things. And I still see some of the little things with him that always are going to be concerning. So they'd have to be better. And I don't know that's going to happen through the. Like, I feel. I still think that those concerns are going to be there a little bit. His movement or his lack of movement on defense, you know, he's just a different cap with that stuff versus his peak athleticism. He just doesn't, he doesn't move that way anymore. I don't know if that gets exposed or people put him in pick and rolls to close some of those playoff games. So if that looked a little bit better beyond just the counting stats and him being like a big part of the rotation now and feeling like you can count on a little bit more, even if it's not every night, and even the Paul George thing, like, he, he just wasn't really a huge. It was a nice piece to have as a fourth option, but that's all he's been. And when he comes back from the suspension, like, it's, it's nice that that's your fourth best player in theory, but he's not necessarily anybody that I've counted on because of just how many times Maxi or Vijay have felt like the brutal matchups to close some of these games.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[E]

Ryan, can you explain something to us? Like we're five years old. RPI relative percent index, the Pythagorean wind stuff, can you walk me through that? Like I'm a complete.

[C]

Yeah, just based on point differential. Right? So like if you're this many points ahead of the opponents, then you should have a projected record. I mean they've been doing this for a long time. And like baseball. Because I remember like going, oh, that's stupid. Run differential. Like Pythagorean theorem. And then it would just go like, here's how many wins you should have based on this differential or losses if you're a negative on the season. And then you can kind of like there used to be some advanced guys to be like, well, our Pythagoras said that we'd be like a 92 win season and we had 81. So we were incredibly unlucky. But our front office is awesome.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So I don't know. Are you looking at an RPI for like one of the NBA rating indexes? Because the Pythag thing is simply just projecting how many wins you should have based on the differential of your points versus how many you actually have. And it's a pretty good indicator of like, were you unlucky or lucky this season.

[E]

Right, Right. So I was looking at that. I was doing it in college basketball too. And just throwing the word RPI for.

[C]

That I think is different. But yeah, I think that's a different thing altogether.

[E]

Throwing python, throwing, throwing Pythag out there just it makes it seem like it's some super complicated thing that you need a degree in math.

[C]

Yeah, I, I don't like, I thought the same thing, but I remember, I think there was a guy from the A's who used to come on the local radio show I did 20 plus years ago and I was like, what's this? And then I remember like fighting it a Little bit like any new thing.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, so what happens if you have, like, a 20 to 2 baseball game and the run differential is, like, thrown off by 18 plus runs or minus runs in one game? I'm like, doesn't that make the whole thing stupid? And he was just like, yeah, except for the part where everybody's playing 162 and that's all kind of factored in.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

But I think some of the. Go ahead, go ahead.

[E]

You look at, like, certain teams and you're like, well, what about strength of schedule? Oh, yeah, they thought about that, too. I'm not the only one to think that some teams play a harder schedule than others.

[C]

Yeah. I think the other thing with the RPI is didn't they stop using it in the tournament, too? But that used to be, like a default rpi and then everybody would just have RPI printed out.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it'd be like, oh, this team got hosed.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. It would just give good ammunition for people that were pissed off that their team didn't make it in the West. If you're looking at the west, it feels like we've been talking about this since last year. That last year's Oklahoma City Thunder team was the worst team that they're going to have in their dynasty moving forward. So you might as well try to beat them last year because they're only going to get better. They seem to be dominant. They got McCain. If there was one team to take him out in the west, who would it be?

[C]

Denver has a chance, and San Antonio's matched up really well with them in the regular season. They did get him. Well, the last matchup, Oklahoma City, I think, had 10 players that were listed that weren't going to play. So it felt like an old Popovich, like, hey, you guys want Thursday night basketball? Tnt, Guess what we're gonna do, not do that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's where you're kind of like, hey, can you be a little bit better on some of the primetime games with your partners? I'm not saying that's what Oklahoma City did, but you can't look at that game and factor in. But some of the other earlier matchups, like, God, this is like the first time a team has made it look hard for okc. And we probably haven't had, like, enough of a full run from San Antonio. Even though they have the third best record in the NBA where the cells missed time, Wemby's missed time, and also been on minutes restrictions. But they're. They're so good already. It's it's really impressive to see what Castle is like, as good as Wemby is, and how much you can change a game by not even scoring all that much. And it depends on how you want to defend him. Like a lot of teams now just put that dog right into his ribs and hips and go this way. At least we can cut off your drives and try to keep you further away on your catches. Because the beginning of the year, centers were trying to guard him and Wemby's like going between his legs and going right past these guys. Like that game he played against Dallas, I still think is like one of the best regular season games I've ever seen from a basketball player. But Castle's improvement, man, like, he's the guy and de' Aaron Fox plays off of Castle and it's the right thing. And so whether it's Kelvin Johnson spacing it, the cell spacing it, I mean, almost every team, it's kind of like baseball for the trade deadline. You're like, if we could just have one more bullpen arm. You can see teams just be like, is there any way, like there's never enough shooting. Is there any way we can add more shooting to this? And if those shooters can also play defense, that's something else. And look, I picked Denver to win the whole thing. I was trying to be a little different than picking OKC in back to back years, but Denver and OKC are like in a missed time off right now, and Denver's is, is a disaster. Like I was looking at the numbers this morning. Jokic has missed 26 games. He's back, but it was a pretty tough part of the schedule. Gordon's missed 30 games now. Christian Brown's missed 36 games. Cam Johnson's missed 24 games. But OKC, and it's something you always look at is like, do you get to 40 wins before you get to 20 losses? Because I think every champion of the last. Is it the last five years? Maybe every champion of the last five years got to 40 wins before 20 losses. OKC's done that again. But they also got off to this ridiculous start. You could make an argument that, you know, for a little while here they've, they've been kind of an oddly above average team. But I don't, I don't know that I really believe that because Jalen Williams has missed a ton of time. Hartenstein's missed time, Caruso's missed a lot of time. Jalen Williams gets back tonight against the Lakers with this hamstring Thing which has him, it feels like half the season. So even with OKC start and him missing time, you're like, God, they're going to get that guy back who you're thinking off of last year's run. Like, is he a top 15, is he top 17 player in the league? Some people saying, hey, top 10 with the way that he can play both ways. So even if you want to beat up on OKC a little bit here during this stretch, like they haven't had all their, they haven't had their second best player for half the year. So what are you supposed to do with that? So I picked Denver only to try to do something different after. I just don't want to pick OKC every single year. And you know, even with some of their, their challenges, they, it's not like they've had, you know, some people again getting on their case a little bit here. But they're always going to be great defensively. Like when you look at them and go, okay, they haven't played as well after a historic start, but are they still the best defense in the NBA? And you're like, yeah, they are. So they can always default to, we're going to lock you up with all the different combinations we can throw at you right now.

[E]

Are they better this year than they were last year?

[C]

Probably not, because it's just. I, I think they will be just with the seasoning that playoff season, like as great as they were last year, they still didn't shoot very well in the playoffs, which speaks to just how special they were defensively. That they can turn on this defensive switch that really I only think Detroit can match them with. They can also go, hey, we can play two bigs, we can play no bigs. We can put Chet here where your defensive five now has to to go out and chase him around the three point line. So we'll close with him to have more openings for everybody else or we'll go back to the two bigs to cut off all your drives. I mean, the way they locked up Ant in that series, Ant didn't have a good series. He had that one game where it looked like he was incredibly frustrated and even want to look to shoot. But there also wasn't a lot there for him. So it was a bit of one of those deals. It's like, okay, you want to get on his case and say he's not up to the moment. He's also staring at three guys standing right in front of him. So you want him to just drive into three Guys and take horrible shots and say, hey, at least I took my 20 shots. And they were all dog just to force the issue. So nobody gets mad at you on tv. But they went to game seven with Denver and they went to game seven against a Pacers team that for one game prior to Halliburton tearing that Achilles, you're going, how are we at game seven with OKC against this Indiana roster? So winning a title special defensively optionality, younger players and all that seasoning I'd expect fully formed. They're a better basketball team this year than last year.

[A]

What. At what point in the season are we going to do the thing where it's like, hey, watch out for the Lakers. The Lakers are going to make some noise and hey, watch out, watch out. Like, you know who could win the West? The Lakers. And then they. And then they lose in five to someone. And everyone says, well, they almost won like four of those games. So that was a team that people should watch out for.

[C]

Yeah, I can't wait. Because it definitely happened last year. I mean, it was. It was outrageous. And then that Minnesota series. Yeah, I'll give myself a little credit here because you get plenty wrong. But you like looking and it's just all like, you go to anywhere. It was like every single person. The Lakers had all that momentum. They beat Denver in that regular season game where it's like, hey, they don't love. We may not love the defensive personnel, but they're just really good. And I do think they're really good at game planning. I think it is a really good staff. And then you watch that Minnesota series, you go, hey, you know, it'd be awesome if somebody big. Yeah, like, they're just going, hey, Rui, you're going to play center. And then we're going to play. Play flat. Like, we're not even gonna play anyone off the bench. That's. And like overnight you're just going, why did everybody pick this team here again? So I don't know if that'll happen. They're not good defensively. Getting Reeves back is huge because, you know, some of these teams just double down on who they are and they go, what we need to be is horrifying offensively. Just like scare the out of everybody. And then can we be a good enough offensively that can make up for some of our defensive deficiencies here? Because they're 23rd in defense right now and it's kind of where they've been living for a long time. And Lucas, you know, good prime. Luca is good enough to do something scary here. But if you look at the standings, like, let's just do the exercise, like, who would you pick them against in the first round in the west based on 50 plus games even, you know, having said, hey, there's no Reeves, but if you want to do the injury game, there's four of the five top seeds in the West. You're like, hey, it hasn't actually, you know, been a picnic for them health wise either.

[E]

The Suns. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, if it ends up what.

[E]

Of.

[C]

4, 5, they'd have to be a 3, 6. That have to be like a 2, 7. So they're not getting there. I, I just don't know that the Suns are even going to line up with them.

[A]

What about the.

[C]

Rockets is a good one? Because I'm going to tell you right now, they're fourth in offense or fifth this morning. And when you watch them close games that are tight, it's awful. They're 21st in clutch offense. And if you want to talk about like some of these numbers can be misleading or whatever, that is the most like truthful number of a team when I watch them play because they get stuck, they don't know who they want to be. The amendment thing is, talented as he is, he doesn't provide you a ton of separation and then you're playing with Shingoon Tar Eason shooting numbers have been terrific. I don't know that people are defending him in a respectful enough way that's going to open up other stuff. And it ends up with Durant in some impossible spots where he's left to solve the possession all by himself. And as great as he is, that is asking a lot of any player player. And it feels like whatever identity they have for those first 30 plus minutes of a game, when they get in a crunch time, it is a grind for them and I don't know that they know what it's supposed to be right now. Like defensively, I'm not going to worry about it. But that is, you watch it. And then you go, well, what does the number say? And you're like, well, the number says exactly what I'm seeing. And if you think about playoff possessions there, where Durant's like going, why aren't you here? What's going on over there? Like, you can see it with Durant and I'm not even like getting on his case with it, but you can see times where he's like really frustrated in the possession where like puts his arms up being like, that wasn't what we were supposed to do, you didn't cut here. You weren't going to do that because they, like, we're this far into it and they're a good team, but it feels like a fatal flaw for them.

[A]

You.

[E]

You mentioned your. Your top 15, top 17 players that you have in the NBA right now. Who are your. Who are your top five, top 15 players in the NFL or in the NBA? Like, who are the top. Who are the top five guys that could be the 15th best player in the NBA?

[C]

All right, well, that sounds super complicated, so I appreciate that.

[E]

Pretty simple stuff, Ryan.

[C]

Yeah. So I think the clear four are Jokic, sga, Giannis, Luca. You know, the Wemby part of it, it. His impact alone, and clearly it reflects in the standings that it's. It's beyond just, you know, how many he scores every night. Because I still think there's some nights where it's absolutely beautiful, and then I think there's other nights where. And get clogged a little bit here. I'd have ant in this conversation. I think Ant right now is the best handle in the game. That's with Kyrie watching for an extended period of time, which I am a little curious, like, is it a side of the trade deadline which hasn't really been covered a ton, but. But, like, Kyrie comes back, he's like, hey, this is awesome. Yeah, let's do this. Steph, for me, is still in this group. Kawhi has actually played like this group this season. I mean, especially if you're going to say top 15. No question. Jalen Brunson's no worse than top 10. Jalen Brown has played this way this year. I voted him as a starter. Jalen Brown. Every single time I put a ceiling on who he can or can't be, I'm like, all right, well, he can't be any better than this. And then he's that good again. I mean, his season.

[A]

Finals mvp.

[C]

Yeah. I think Cade's in this conversation. I'm a huge booker fan. If we're saying top 15. I mean, I get on for some of my booker stuff where I was like, do you think the Thunder win the title last year with booker instead of sga? And it's like, you heathen. I don't know.

[E]

It's interesting.

[A]

Something to think about.

[C]

Yeah. You know, it's not like I'm not dissing SGA here, but maybe a little bit.

[A]

But, yeah, a little bit.

[C]

Why can't it just be a compliment? Why can't it just be Positive. Why does everything have to be negative?

[A]

The Canadian thing. The Canadian thing bothers you?

[C]

No, no. I think. I think Chris Paul, if he goes to Toronto, which.

[A]

I mean, where is Chris Paul right now?

[C]

I think he's like, 10 minutes down the street from me getting shots at.

[A]

You got to go talk to him.

[C]

I've been so tempted to be like, do you need a rebounder? But does that mean he's like, that guy was cool until he was like, do you need a rebounder? Like, I have professional coaches and nutritionists. And then this is going to be like, do you want to just run it to seven?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

See what happens.

[A]

Is Chris Paul. Is it. He's deciding whether he wants to go to Toronto or is Toronto deciding whether they want him?

[C]

They are pretty deep. I know Toronto fans are going to say, like, hey, you completely glossed over us. I. I really have been impressed with the way they played, their transition stuff and all that stuff. But again, it gets back to, like, if Brandon Ingram's your best player. Like, how many players? Oh, look, I like Scotty Barnes. I think all of us say Scotty Barnes. Point. I don't want Chris Paul to go out this way, so I think he probably has enough stature to probably have it on his own terms here a little bit.

[A]

So. Yeah, but it feels like he doesn't.

[E]

You don't want him to go out as a Canadian is what you're saying?

[C]

Yeah, well, I don't think it's a citizenship thing.

[A]

Where.

[C]

Where.

[A]

Why isn't LeBron just be like, hey, man, come on, the Lakers, they always.

[C]

Wanted to play together. It would be convenient, right? He is here, right?

[E]

Might as well.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

He's just down the street.

[C]

Is LeBron to get back at the Clippers?

[A]

Yeah. Is LeBron retiring this year? I feel like he is.

[C]

I don't think he is really. I think he's going to have a really, really hard time being away from the attention of basketball.

[A]

So he's never going to retire.

[C]

Never would be a long time.

[A]

It would.

[C]

But it sounds still incredibly productive offensively. You know, you're going to make up for his defense, defensive stuff, which is, you know, this isn't exactly new and it's to be expected. So I still think there's far more positive about him, the player. But it just depends, like, what are you looking for next year? Are you looking for a massive contract? Like, all right, do you want to go play on a bad team? I don't think he necessarily wants to do that. I think there's a Lot of people that still wonder if he would just go to Cleveland, Cleveland for the one year deal, have some kind of storybook ending. And you could say like, well, maybe he doesn't want to go out that way if he's going to have all this business in la. Like, why would you want to do that and jeopardize those relationships? Dude, walking around this place, it's, it's just fascinating. The number of guys that are just Kobe. Guys that are like, yeah, thanks for the title, but whatever. The General Indifference to LeBron in this city.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Is. Is alarming to the point where I end up being like, hey, he came here. You guys missed the playoffs for five straight years.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

He comes here. That means you also get AD and like you're gonna, you're gonna sit there and kind of do like a. Whatever. Thanks dude. You know, like just ready to move on the rest of it and like, that's fine. You want to move on. I get at the stage of his career, the whole thing, but there's, there's an indifference with him day to day whenever he seems to come up. Not like it's every single day of my life life that LeBron comes up in conversation, but I, I end up feeling like I turned into like this massive LeBron defender to like the hardcore again. I don't even call these Lakers fans, I call them Kobe fans and they're just insanely protective about like to a point where they didn't want to give LeBron any credit. So if he were to go to Cleveland for a year and then it's like, oh, well, his whole dynamic in LA is different. It's like, I don't know that. I don't know that that would ever change anything.

[A]

Right.

[C]

There's just a lot of people that I think took it for granted.

[E]

Do you think that he feels that.

[C]

That I, I would see. It's. It'd be impossible for him to not notice it.

[E]

I would just think that he would have. He's so insulated that he's got people around him that are like, yeah, LeBron, you're the man.

[C]

Well, yeah. And that's the other like the human nature part of it is that I doubt anybody's going up to him being like, you know, I also don't think he's going to like arowan by himself to see what's on the buffet schedule.

[E]

But do you go to Eran?

[C]

I do.

[E]

What's that like too life changing. Is it really?

[C]

The almonds are so expensive. It's amazing.

[E]

Do you get the. The like 30 strawberries or whatever?

[C]

I did the Haley Bieber smoothie a few times and it was so tasty. But then I, like, looked at the ingredients and I'm like, what are you doing? Like, you can't. You can't do this. It was like soft serve ice cream on top of, like, strawberry syrup and some sort of coconut cream. And I'm like, this is like, no wonder this thing tastes so good. And it was really expensive. They make an incredible meat sauce that you can grab jars of that is a winner. You get maybe two, three uses out of it. It's nice because it's right next to the gym, so I can just shoot over there and hit up the buffet and say, you know, long term, if I'm just getting this for myself, but loading up like every week on produce, you get a little pricey.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Things are good over here, but you never know.

[E]

I can imagine do. Is there. What's the athleisure scene like at Arrow on? I would imagine pretty significant.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't even think they let you in there unless you're coming from the gym.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Good.

[C]

And the hoodies, like, they've got their whole line of clothing right now. And I've been so tempted to grab this orange cropped deal.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I was like, can I wear a cropped?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because I think that's. That's like, I don't have. I have four abs. On the right day, you could do it.

[E]

You can pull that off.

[C]

The lower abs. The lower abs never show up. And if you're going to be doing.

[A]

The crop thing, maybe you cropped with a fanny pack.

[C]

That's a good look.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Maybe I'll do this. Maybe just an appreciation for super weak. I'll send you guys a couple erewhon. Oh, crew necks.

[E]

I would crop it myself.

[A]

What's going on?

[C]

They're dope.

[A]

Yeah. What's going on with the boat?

[C]

She's great. Filled her up the other day right before super week. Had to finish up some work. So. Nothing forces you to do work more than just being anchored away from everything because you're like, all right, I'm on the boat and I don't smoke weed and I don't drink when I'm on the boat or anything. I know that sounds crazy, but, like, I have enough anxiety docking the thing at 46ft by myself. 47ft.

[A]

47. Make sure you get that right.

[C]

Well, depending on what kind of clearance you're talking about.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Anchor.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

But there was this Dutch vessel, I think, 170ft, that was in Marina del Rey for months, and they took up the entire outside slip of the fueling station. So you kind of get to a point where you're really comfortable with certain moves with your boat by yourself. But there's probably other moves where you go, I don't know that I've ever tried that. You know, like, I won't try a 360 dunk anymore.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Because I just go, like, anymore.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, what if. What if I over rotate same? I just land the wrong way? So I had, like, 6% of fuel left or. No, I had 9% of fuel left. That's right, because it's 6%. I don't think I would have done it. And even at 9%, like, I knew where I was going. I knew I was anchoring. I knew the distance. I'm like, I'm fine. But it's not like a car where you go like, oh, whatever. Like, whatever zero is. I wish we were more like Europeans where it's like, I want to know. To the leader, and then I'm bone dry.

[A]

Right.

[C]

You know, I'd like to have that kind of precision, but apparently we don't want that here. And so this massive, massive yacht's there, and I'm like, God damn it. Like, it's outside of the fuel pumps, and the only ways I have to, like, go in and kind of battle with traffic a little bit, maybe on a busy day, and then I have to go in and, like, spin the whole boat around to, like, an opposite side and then get the boat parallel and bring it across, like, almost like fishtailing a tank all the way around. And I was like, I'm not doing that today. So I was like, it came back in at, like, 5 or 6% fuel. Fuel, Doc. So then I went out the other day, and the boat was still there. I'm like, dude, you have to fill this up. Like, you have to fill this thing up, and you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to just be.

[A]

You have to do it, whatever you're doing. Yeah.

[C]

The number one rule. Just go slow, and if you're freaked out, go slower.

[E]

Was there an audience watching you?

[C]

Yeah, yeah. The guys at the pump, too. You don't want to let those guys down.

[E]

No, no.

[A]

Hell, especially with your Erewhon shirt on.

[E]

On.

[C]

Yeah, because they're like, look at this loser.

[E]

Do you have a captain's hat?

[C]

Oh, yeah, I do. I don't wear it, though, unless I'M like, it spells in like swell size. Like if the swells pick up, I put it on.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Just feel safe.

[C]

You feel like everybody on board feels safer.

[E]

Yeah, that's what it's about. Yeah.

[C]

I went out one time, I even checked the charts and I was like, what? And then I was like, leaving the marina. I go, there's not another boat out out. Not one, nothing. Like, usually there's even big sailboats if it's windy because then they'll cut right through it. I was like, there's not one other boat out. And I had somebody with me and I'm like, this is. This might be a little hairy. And then I open out into the marina and I see this. I was like, oh, my God. Like, this is bad. And so then I had to, like, make sure I just never got sideways. And I'm like, I gotta go into it. I gotta do like, I gotta get it out and then come back in and make sure I'm not near the rock wall on the way in. Because it doesn't really matter what side. Those waves are so powerful that if they catch the hull of the boat, like you're riding the wave, you're not driving it. Every alarm goes off, every single piece of cutlery, any glassware. Like, it just sounds like it's all shattering. Like movie scene alarms. Like, losing it. Losing it. Because the levels of everything was like, what's going on? And I was like, as long as I never get parallel with these brakes, I'll be fine. So right into them, charge out hard, turn sets, then ride it back in away from the rock wall, then cut it back once the swells died down. And that was about a 15 minute trip.

[A]

And you had the cap. Did you put the captain's hat on?

[C]

That's the whole point. Hold on.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

I go turn off the almond brothers. Where's the captain's cap?

[E]

Yep. Put some sea shanties on there. Yeah. Dress for the job you want, not the job you have, have you be honest. Right. Have you thought about getting a bigger boat?

[A]

Boat?

[E]

Yes.

[C]

You talking about. Do you know anything about boat ownership?

[E]

No, not really.

[C]

Yeah, well, that's the first thing you do is you buy the boat and then you go, oh, I could handle a 60 footer on my own as long as I get one of those slips to the outside. But then I have to also be honest. It's like you don't have the easiest schedule.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

People can talk about the amount of hours that we put in, like actually on the air. You're like, okay, yeah, like, if you count those up, it doesn't seem like I'm doing much, but there is a lot of other stuff that goes into it. No one's crying for us. Not asking her to cry for you, but there's probably a level of boat that you should or shouldn't have, depending on your access to it. And I kind of want to do stuff that I was like, I don't want to wait until, like, I'm retired. I want to be a younger boat guy. And then when I look at, like, other guys living rooms in their bigger boats, I'm like, that's the kind of boat you get behind. But then I realized I was like, there's a lot of guys looking at your boat. Boat. That'd be. That'd be enough boat for me. Yeah, I think. Not to make this about life, but it's. It's just something to remember. There's probably somebody looking at your boat going, that's. That's good enough for me. I should stop looking at the other boats.

[E]

That's great advice. Appreciate your own boat.

[A]

Don't. Don't come to boat envy.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't think it's hard. Yeah, it's hard not to.

[E]

I can't see you retiring. You don't seem like a guy that. That's retired.

[C]

I won't do this forever.

[E]

Oh, is there. Are we doing a fair wheel tour? This is like LeBron. Are you wearing a patch?

[A]

A Chris Paul retirement tour and you just get cut?

[C]

I don't know if that would happen. Yeah, my numbers are a little bit better than Chris's towards the end.

[A]

Go. You're a better team player. Chris Paul wouldn't have gone to the Or Chris Paul would not have sat across from Rico Bosco at dinner.

[C]

That was fun, huh? You were unbelievable. Like, it was. The whole thing. Having that dinner was playing out exactly. Exactly how I expected. Because all that's happening is Rico saying something, and he's trying to see if I'm gonna read something wrong. And I'm trying to, like, read him. And then there's not really. It's like, this isn't that complicated. It's exactly what you would expect it would be. And then every five minutes, Big cat would be like, yeah, but Rico, didn't you think that, like, something like this. It's like whenever that fire start to dim out a little, just turn it back up, it would just go up Fl. You know, here's just a flush of oxygen into this. This fire pit. You're like, we're not done yet.

[A]

We did it again the next night where it was just Max was there for that one. We did, we just did a pick. We did a pickup episode. It was David I and like six other people in Rico. We just, we did a two hour pick em episode while eating prime rib. It was a good time. Yeah.

[C]

I did the house of prime rib with, with pft.

[A]

It's good time.

[C]

I got the Full Dave experience and we had the Gruden. It was actually Gruden is the number.

[A]

One guy if you want to go to a dinner and you're like, hey, we're going to dinner with clients. And I don't really know how I'm going to carry a conversation. You bring Jon Gruden and you're set. That cuz his. When he gets story going, he has every guy at a dinner in the palm of his hand big time.

[C]

Pft. Did you tell him the driving story when he said no.

[E]

So, so this is, this is pretty incredible. So we're driving over to dinner and, and the traffic in the city is just terrible because everyone's there for, for the game. It's like the first Friday night. Everybody's in town, so the traffic's just not moving. Our security guy makes an amazing move move. And it's not a move I would ever do if I was ever driving a car, but I guess he's, he's a really good driver. So he does. He cuts into like the oncoming traffic lane because there's a bunch of red lights, swerves around a bunch of cars, ends up making a left turn. Pretty much saves us like a half hour in about 10 seconds with this move that he does. And, and we all start just like rubbing his shoulders be like, hey, that was awesome. Great job. I don't want to say his name, but great job. Jose. You did, you did incredible.

[A]

Jose all Thursday night. He's the best.

[E]

Incredible.

[A]

He's awesome.

[C]

He's awesome. And it was like a culmination of all these moves that night. And I can't, I still can't believe he pulled that move. And if I were the car in the front line at that red light stuck and then saw this SUV pull up and go, what the are you doing? But I guess it was just, you know, if you're in law enforcement. Yeah, hey, I'm on the job.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I, I wanted it like I was building up to this point of like, this guy needs to be appreciated out loud.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So go ahead.

[E]

So, so, so Ryan's like, dude, this is incredible. Thank you so much. Everyone's like, like, great job, Jose.

[A]

This is.

[E]

This is awesome. Thank you. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got you. And then about 10 seconds later, he hits the gas in the right lane and almost runs into the back of the car that's in front of us. Slams the brakes. Ryan ate, like, into the back of the seat in front of him.

[C]

Internal organs moved around a little bit.

[E]

Like, everyone jerks forward. And then immediately Guden goes, some guys can't handle success.

[C]

And then he told us a story about some right tackle he had in Tampa that was a horrible practice player, but super talented. And then he told him he had, like, this great practice. And then he goes, he came back the next day and he sucked again. And then one of the other assistants went to Gruden's like, don't ever feed him sugar, only feed him. Yeah, that was. That was the story that he told. Because, like, the story came back up again at dinner. And then he's like, reminds me of, you know, the player's name game. And you're like, where's this going? And it was perfect. And then he doesn't.

[E]

He.

[C]

Then he lays out. He lays out for like 10 minutes and observes, and then he jumps back in.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's.

[C]

It's very tactical and it's smart because it's, you know, he could ego out if he wanted to and everybody would just shut up.

[A]

He's incredible at a dinner.

[E]

He's got the ability to talk about any, like, I don't know, like, second third string player from 201111 that you've never even heard of before and make it the most entertaining story you've ever heard in your life. Just like eating out the palm of his hand.

[A]

He's the best. Yeah, he's the best. All right, Ryan, last question. Roback question. R, H, O, B, A, C, K.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take who's going to win the All Star game? I know you're pumped, man.

[C]

This time it feels personal, doesn't it?

[A]

Yeah. Team World versus Team usa. We can't let them win this game.

[E]

Who do you think Hank's rooting for?

[A]

Team. Wow. Now he's been canceled.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't know. I don't know what Hank would do. I had a friend who was a communist in college, and I think he still is a communist, but he was always the guy Rooting for, like, the Olympics would roll around. He'd be like, you're rooting for Germany. Like, what the going on?

[E]

He's rooting for East Germany.

[C]

No, no, actually, he would never root for Germany, to be honest with you. But I was just using the example of, like, what. What is this? You know? And of course, it's like, oh, you like. You like indie rock too? Like, I got it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, this band's too commercial. I'm gonna root for England. I hate the All Star Game a lot. I haven't watched it.

[A]

It.

[C]

I don't even know the last time I watched it. I have never, in over 10 years, been like, All Star Games on tonight, I've got to make sure I am home in front of the couch. I have missed every single minute of it. Certain nights. It's just. I don't get mad at it, though. Like, it's for kids. It's kind of fun to celebrate. These guys have the accolades the whole week and the whole thing. And, like, look, shout out to the players union. Shout out to LeBron. Shout out to Chris Paul. All getting everybody a week off from the games. Like, I take the week off now.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you're. You're. That's the correct way to. To look at it. It's not for you, so who cares?

[E]

Yeah, right.

[C]

Yeah, right. It's like when people get mad at all the bowl games, you're like, oh, hey, don't watch it. Yeah, they still do really well, ratings wise. They mean a ton to those fan bases. And yeah, like, everything's chaotic right now at this point. But, like, there's other things you can get mad about. Why would you get mad about? I wish the All Star Game were competitive. I wish it reminded me of the stuff that was cool when you watch, like, the close of a game and you're like, hey, how's this guy gonna look against this guy in the greatest pickup game in the world? I mean, that's been so long that I don't even. You know, I. I actually think getting mad at the All Star Game is as boring as the game itself.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Ryan, you're the best. Enjoy vacation Portugal.

[C]

Yeah, we're headed out to those big waves.

[A]

Love that.

[E]

Go catch one, Ryan.

[A]

So sick. Sick. All right, Ryan, you're the best. Everyone listening to Ryan Rossilo show. And we'll. We'll talk to you as soon as, you know, we. You get back, we get basketball. Just love. Love the NBA.

[C]

Chicago. Yeah, I'll be in Chicago, so I'll get together. So thanks as always, guys.

[D]

Yeah, you got.

[A]

You got to. We did. We did our bet on your show, College football, and I think the payment we agreed is Roselle is going to stay at Miny's house one night.

[E]

Oh, I love that. You guys will get along so well.

[A]

Well, yeah, I can't wait.

[C]

Looking forward to it. And even though we didn't agree to it, that seems like a totally fair and reasonable bet.

[E]

Yeah, he won't mind.

[A]

It was either that or go try to pick up chicks with Nikki smokes one night. So you get to decide.

[C]

I don't know. It might be better.

[A]

He's gonna. He's gonna. He's gonna, like, get that quote and. And put it on his wall.

[E]

Yeah, just whatever you do, don't. Don't play the episodes a part of my take around him. It's like a B's dog situation where things will start to happen with his body.

[A]

He'll start cranking it hard.

[C]

All right, noted.

[A]

Yeah, I have nothing to add to that.

[C]

No.

[A]

Nor should you. Nor should you.

[C]

All right.

[B]

All right.

[A]

See you, man.

[E]

See you, Ryan.

[A]

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[E]

We're calling the righty.

[A]

Yup.

[C]

Zach, let's get right here.

[E]

Bright lights.

[A]

Sitting in that seat right now. Any thoughts about Bad Bunny?

[B]

Good energy at the halftime performance. I thought the. The lineman representation. I know we touched on this earlier was great. Great to see lineman work. Like, you know, hard job, tough job, good for the. Good for, like, really just, like the environment of the United States to keep things going, keep the power up.

[A]

Yeah, they love to see that.

[E]

We need to have some good lineman representation after Will Campbell.

[B]

I think it's important. For sure.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Very important. Okay, hit us with some guys on chicks.

[C]

Zach.

[B]

Hi, guys. Me, 23, female, have a boyfriend, 21, male. Just turned. He just turned 21 and keeps downloading gambling apps on my phone. Buys me and my three roommates drinks, and then tells me he's signing me up for promies.

[A]

Promo. Promos.

[B]

Promies.

[A]

Promies.

[B]

I have upwards of 15 gambling apps.

[A]

Wait, that's longer than promos.

[E]

Promies.

[A]

Promies is a longer version of promos.

[D]

Yeah, but it's fun.

[E]

It's a fun way to say, like, yeah, I'm. I'm actually giving your credit card information to a massive company.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Just a promi. Babe.

[B]

It's like a silly way of silly promo.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

He'S signing me up for these promies. I have upwards of 15 gambling apps organized in a folder on my phone he calls Promies. My one roommate caught wind of this and told me he's ripping me off. I did some googling and sees that he's clearly getting the better end of the deal here.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

But he's depositing all of his own money and doing 100% of the work. I brought it up last night during the super bowl, and he got really defensive, tell me he doesn't want to get me involved in gambling. But he's a very calm guy and got really aggressive about this last night. Should I bring it up again, or is it not a big deal if.

[E]

It makes you uncomfortable? I'd say it's a. It's a big deal to bring it up, but it also sounds like he's at least signing you up for the promies so he can get his promies. Yeah, he's very organized with his promies.

[A]

Sounds like Ben Mintz.

[E]

Yeah, he's. He's betting for free because you're giving them all the promies, which is nice.

[A]

Also, probably shouldn't have brought it up during the Super Bowl. Yeah, a game where everyone's bets lost.

[E]

I would say, like right after the Masters would be a good time to bring it up. Like, hey, do we need. We need all these promies. Also, it sounds like you're a very trusting individual for just letting your boyfriend hold on to your phone for extended periods of time.

[A]

Yeah, that's actually a really healthy relationship.

[E]

Yeah, so sounds like he's got a good one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You guys really trust each other.

[B]

That does sound healthy.

[A]

If you trust your significant other with promies, you're in for the long haul.

[B]

Prome me together. Stay together.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that's exactly right.

[E]

Don't pro me if you don't know me. That's what I always say.

[B]

You got another one here. It's next year. In the first seven games, the Patriots play Chiefs, Bills two times, Chargers, Bears.

[E]

We don't know that. We don't know that. This is. Yeah, we try to do actual journalism on the show, but. Okay, sorry, go ahead.

[B]

That's true. We could disavow this entire comment.

[E]

Well, no, let's just say that this is the schedule.

[B]

Early Predict, Chiefs, Bills 2 times, Chargers, Bears, Lions. They also play the Seahawks, Jaguars, Broncos and Packers. What's their record and by how much will they miss the playoffs?

[E]

Oh, the Seahawks.

[A]

Are the.

[E]

Are we talking about the Patriots?

[B]

We're talking about the Patriots.

[E]

There's a Patriots, Patriots schedule.

[A]

Okay. They play the NFC north next year. They play a first place schedule.

[E]

Yeah. Do you think, do you think the Patriots going into next year are like a top tier? Because the way I look at the AFC is like, if you're going to sneak in and make it count, this was the year to do it. No Patrick Mahomes, no boogeyman out.

[A]

Turns out everyone was like, hey, this is the year that Josh Allen has to get to Super Bowl. Kind of right? Yeah, kind of right.

[E]

No Lamar, no Mahomes. Bo Nicks will be back. The AFC actually has a lot of good teams. I don't know if they have any great teams.

[A]

It's all cyclical. It's all year to year. You never know. I mean, we do it every year where we predict the schedule and predict your team's record. And then you look back and you're like, well, that was backup quarterback. That was backup quarterback. You never know.

[E]

Yeah. First seven games though, if I had to guess for the Patriots next year.

[A]

I think the Bears are gonna. I think the Bears are going to kick off the season. Season with the Seahawks. I think they're going to make that Thursday night.

[E]

They could do the Bears thing. They could do the Chiefs thing, too.

[A]

Do the Seahawks have the Chiefs? Yeah, they do.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think that's a toss up with Mahomes if he. Yeah, we're just assuming Mahomes is going to be back ready to go week one.

[E]

That's a good point.

[A]

I just think that I'm. I'm fully preparing myself for the Bears to get is the maximum amount of prime time games.

[E]

It sucks. It sucks being in that spotlight.

[A]

But I actually, I kind of hope it happen. I hope the. The week one, that Thursday night. Because that is. Check off one of the primetime games. It's not a. Because multiple Thursday night games does suck.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

At least that one would be. You get a little extra rest after to.

[E]

To answer the question. I think the Patriots will be. Oh, Zach.

[A]

Zach's bubbling again. Bubble. He just continues to bubble.

[B]

I'm used to bubbles.

[E]

My fault with that neck. Do Zach. I'm gonna go four and three Pat's first seven games next year.

[A]

So Mahomes towards ACL on December 14th. Yeah, I, he. He'll be ready. I think he'll play week one. I don't think he'll be good. I think he'll. He won't be good for, you know, a month.

[E]

Listen, Lindsey Vaughn skied on a torn ACL and she was fine.

[A]

Crash.

[B]

She crashed.

[A]

She crashed.

[E]

She was fine, though.

[A]

Before that, she was fine.

[B]

If she. But she had both ACLs.

[A]

Credit to Lindsay Von she has no fear.

[C]

Fear.

[A]

Because, like, she, she gets up there and there's like a 50 chance. Just anecdotally speaking, from what I follow in skiing, there's a 50 chance. She crashes every time.

[E]

I'm surprised her and Tiger didn't work it out. Seems like they have a lot in common.

[B]

I got another one for you guys if you're ready.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

How do I convince my boyfriend to take me out on Valentine's Day dinner next year instead of watching the Super Bowl?

[A]

Oh, yeah, the NFL did it.

[E]

They really did it to us.

[A]

I do love the guys being like the, the tweets being like, you have one year to prepare. Here's your warning. Yeah, Valentine's Day and Super bowl, they coincide. Valentine's Day is a fake holiday anyway.

[B]

It's not like for the season of love. You know what I mean?

[A]

Well, I think.

[B]

Or is it more of like a consumer holiday? Like, go buy these gifts and chocolates.

[A]

I. I think the Valentine's Day is one of those holidays. And when I say fake holiday, I Mean, there are certain holidays that you can shift. Shift, Val. Like St. Patrick's Day. I love St. Patrick's Day. St. Patrick's Day has a little bit of a fake holiday feel where you can. If it's St. Patrick's Day is on a Wednesday, we could just party on Saturday. Halloween.

[E]

Halloween is a big one.

[A]

Yeah. Right. So it's like got the shifting nature. I think Valentine's Day is 100 in that category. It's not like Christmas or Fourth of July where you have to celebrate on that day. You could just do Valentine's Day on the Saturday before the Super Bowl.

[E]

You know what we're gonna see? We're gonna see a lot of Valentine's Day brunch.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And it's just gonna be like the drunkest Sunday that you could ever have. That actually sounds like not a bad Sunday. You do. You do a heavy brunch at like 11:30 noon. You get through like four or five mimosas.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And then you just roll that into the pre party for the Super Bowl.

[A]

It's. It's going to be Saturday. Saturday night's going to be Valentine's Day. February 13th is going to be for Valentine's Day. There are certain holidays that you have. You should have no problem. No qualms with shifting. You just have to hit the week. You have to get in the general vicinity of it.

[C]

It.

[A]

Halloween. Yeah. Is a perfect example. Halloween on a, on a, on a Wednesday in college, guess what Friday we're doing Halloween doesn't matter.

[E]

And guess what if it's on a Wednesday at that Monday Night Football before Halloween. That's when people are going to wear the costumes.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

College is a bad example. You in college, you just do 10 Halloweens.

[A]

Yeah, of course, but I, but, but St. Patrick's Day is a good example of like say when it's on a Tuesday. People aren't getting like blackout drunk on a Tuesday Tuesday. They're doing it on the previous Saturday, the Saturday after. So you could just shift.

[B]

So quick shift. You get, you get a full Valentine's Day and a full Super Bowl.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Everybody kind of wins.

[A]

February 13th.

[E]

I, I do think that the brunch move is going to. A lot of people are going to do the brunch move.

[F]

Brunch move sounds fun.

[E]

It does.

[A]

Brunch, like. But this is one of those situations where people will talk about it for engagement. I just can't imagine anyone going out to Valentine's Day dinner during the super bowl also is not going to have happen. It's not a real thing.

[E]

Nobody really goes out for dinner on Sunday nights.

[A]

Right. Also true. Yeah. It was going to be Saturday anyway.

[E]

I'm doing brunch. I think. I think the brunch move is. The more I think about it, that's just a great Sunday.

[B]

I know a lot of people will do Valentine's Day early to try to get, like, reservations somewhere else because the day of is pretty hard. But now if everyone's trying to maybe move a day back, might be dinner at home.

[A]

Yeah. Do Friday or Saturday. If you hit it anywhere in that vicinity. You're good.

[B]

Got one more for you guys.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Wait, is next year the one where the Monday is President's Day?

[A]

Yeah. Which is also a fake holiday.

[E]

I respect the office.

[F]

I. I respect President's Day too.

[A]

I'm just saying it's. You guys, like. Yes, but when they're like, oh, it's a bank holiday. Okay, well, what if you don't work in a bank?

[E]

You gotta go to work.

[D]

No one works on President's Day.

[A]

Is that true?

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Nobody works.

[E]

Yeah. It's a federal holiday.

[A]

Yes. We just. We just weren't on presents.

[E]

It's a fake holiday for us. Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Hey, PMT boys. My fiance and I are getting married this summer, and our first Valentine's Day as a married couple is going to be on Super Bowl. Now, there's highly. It's highly unlikely that the chance that my Saints will be playing that day.

[A]

Oh, shock.

[B]

Maybe shuck. However, there's a better chance that my soon to be husband's team, the Detroit Lions, could play. How do I navigate this potential outcome and where he won't want to do anything romantic with me on Valentine's Day if his team does, in fact, win the nfc.

[E]

Okay, if the Lions are in the super bowl, you can pretty much write off that entire month.

[A]

Did you read, did you read ahead that same thing we just said for this.

[B]

Both apply.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, just take it.

[E]

I would say though, if. If the lines are really the Saints too, but if they're playing in the super bowl, like, just don't make plans the week before, the week after, either because he'll be partying still or because he'll be very depressed.

[A]

The Super Bowl. What are we even talking about? The super bowl just crushes the Valentine's Day. It's not. Those aren't. Those aren't the same.

[B]

Football transcends love.

[A]

Good for the people who don't have any interest in watching the super bowl and are in a relationship with no one. Who watches the Super Bowl? You will get an awesome reservation somewhere. Everyone else in America, which is literally everyone else in America, will be watching super bowl, and we're going to be enjoying the. Out of it.

[B]

It's big.

[A]

What's more romantic than, you know, some. Some super bowl squares, some promies. Buffalo chicken to a couch, Eating way too much, by the way, coming to the office because we're taping this on Monday. Coming to the office today and realizing that apparently people just take home leftovers now. We don't leave them here for everyone. I was. I was so pumped for jambalaya.

[E]

Oh, yeah. I didn't have any of that yesterday.

[A]

I was so pumped, and I came in and there was just no jambalaya. And I. It ruined my day. I'll say it right now. It ruined my day.

[B]

Jumble is day.

[A]

Yeah, that's going to start.

[E]

It's going to be a hell of a week for Saints fans next year. You got Mardi Gras on Tuesday the 9th. And then if you're in the super bowl with shuck. Super bowl and Valentine's Day and President's Day.

[A]

Zach, while we're on guys on chicks, what's going on with the chicks?

[B]

Chicks haven't been talking to a lot of chicks.

[A]

Yeah. If we're being transparent, can some. Can some of the chicks maybe reach out?

[B]

Yeah. I'm open to starting interpersonal relationship conversations.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm not against that.

[E]

Put that on a graphic. Open Zach to interpersonal. Open to interpersonal relationship conversations.

[A]

So can we open the transfer portal for you?

[B]

I'm just not the best at conversations. So they don't. Sometimes they don't.

[A]

So we need a strong alpha type female who's ready to take control of the relationship and just tell Zach what to do.

[B]

You saying I gotta get submissive?

[A]

You gotta get submissive. You're gonna get pegged. You're gonna to get stepped on. I think this is. I think. Listen, it's fine.

[B]

What if we start somewhere else?

[E]

Yeah, what if we start with, like, how do you feel about hot wax?

[A]

What's your safe word?

[B]

I don't have a safe word yet.

[A]

Well, it's not that deep in the game. Let's get a safe word.

[B]

How many syllables you think a safeword needs?

[A]

Two, three, whatever you want.

[E]

I think one.

[B]

I think one.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

One feels risky because what if you just shout it in like a moment of excitement, you know? Yeah, because I feel like one syllable safe words could get misconstrued as, like, you said something else, but it Sounds like the one syllable.

[A]

Yeah. Let's get you a safe word. Let's start with a safe word, and then. Let's start and then we'll talk to some women.

[B]

We'll go from there. Okay.

[A]

But we need. Obviously, I don't want you to get pegged unless you want to get pegged. I'm not gonna kink.

[C]

Shame.

[A]

What I'm saying, though, is you do need. We need a girl to reach out to Zach that is like, hey, Zach, we're going on a date tonight. Hey, Zach, I made a reservation. We're doing this because my boy's not going to do any of that.

[B]

I'm really good at talking myself out of occasions, so, like, the least notice the better.

[C]

Probably.

[A]

Right? So we need someone who's like, hey, Zach, you just sit back. I'm going to ride you.

[F]

You also said you would go on more dates after football season was over.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, it was a big season. It was a big work season. I thought, you know, lock in with the guys.

[A]

We need a girl on top. We need a girl to get on top.

[F]

And respectfully, though, of course.

[B]

Of course. Nothing but the most utmost respect for these queens.

[A]

Take you out to dinner, then ride the. Out of you.

[F]

I don't think it's over.

[A]

Football.

[F]

That was your excuse. All football.

[B]

We're about to get into preseason. You know, like, mock drafts are coming.

[A]

Like combines come in free agency.

[B]

What a time.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

How lucky are we?

[A]

Zach just stays single for life because he's like, good football season.

[B]

I don't hate that move.

[A]

Yeah, you got this, Zach.

[E]

Zach, do you have a type?

[B]

A type? No, I don't discriminate.

[D]

Fat ass.

[E]

Let's just.

[B]

I would like women. I'm down with that.

[A]

Okay. Fat ass, Latinas.

[B]

Coma sedice. Fat ass, Latinas, ass or titties. Can I get gluttonous there and just be like, both.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because, like, both would be. I mean, both would be awesome. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So sick.

[B]

That's almost intimidating. It's like, oh, whoa.

[E]

What about hair color?

[B]

I mean, whatever they feel. You know what I feel most comfortable with? You know, express yourself.

[E]

I love that. Whatever you. Whatever makes you feel beautiful. Yeah, I'm into that.

[A]

But if you had a preference.

[B]

Never thought too much into the.

[A]

You got a preference?

[C]

Come on.

[B]

I don't know. I don't think I have one. On the hair color. Yeah, because, like, I think hair color change with seasons, you know?

[A]

Like, what age range?

[B]

Age range.

[A]

We're gonna. We're gonna Whittle this down. Maybe like type A's, reach out.

[B]

I don't know. How old am I? Age range. Probably my age. How old are you?

[A]

Answer that.

[B]

Okay, we'll do age range.

[A]

No, no. How old are you?

[B]

I'm 28.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. Yeah, I'm 28. Yeah.

[F]

I thought for a second there you.

[A]

Didn'T know how old.

[B]

No, no.

[F]

You're gonna be asking yourself that question.

[B]

I definitely know my age. Definitely know my age.

[A]

All right, so 20. You're 28. I feel like 25 to 35.

[B]

That feel. That feels like a super 40.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, dude, if you got a woman.

[E]

Who knows what she wants. Yeah.

[A]

A MILF who maybe has a kid, but you don't have to deal with the kid. She's like, don't worry, I got it.

[B]

And I'll ride, and I've got a lot to learn.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She could provide free game.

[E]

Are you. Are you open to being. No, I don't want to say stepdad, but, like, you know, hang out with kid from time to time.

[F]

I feel like you'd be.

[A]

You'd be a good guy, play video games.

[B]

Stepdad. Who stepped in?

[E]

Not necessarily. I don't want to say stepdad yet, but, like, you know, know the kids over. You go over to pick her up, go inside, play with the kid for a little bit, say what's up.

[A]

This is also, though. This is. This is another. We're just adding another pitfall for Zach.

[B]

Having to wake up in full.

[A]

Imagine if he doesn't wait like, hey.

[F]

No, don't give him that excuse. Don't give him that excuse because he's.

[B]

Used that excuse in full transparency.

[F]

He's used that excuse.

[A]

I think you might need the, like, a narcoleptic type, a fat ass, fat titties, indeterminate hair, 40 year old.

[B]

That sounds like it could come with a lot of pain in the long game, but could be a great learning experience in the short game. But as far as the stepdad situation.

[A]

Dude, there's a woman out there for you. There's some women who want to just take control.

[E]

Piercings and tats. Cool with that?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I'm cool with body art. Do what you paint that canvas girl. Do your thing.

[A]

Okay, nice, Nice. Does she have to like video? She has to understand. Understand video games.

[F]

She has to tolerate video games. That's. I like to tolerate you playing video games.

[B]

She doesn't have to necessarily be into the game or be okay with the game tolerates. Probably.

[A]

She has to understand that when you Date Zach. Zach is married to the game.

[B]

You can't leave the game. I can't leave. I can't put the game down.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I can't put down the game. So, like, it's. I. The. Sometimes the text response might be indifferent just because your game is live, it's online, and you can't. I can't hit pause.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Which is going to be a down. That's a downfall of my dating life. But, you know, people are who we are. Some things just are what they are.

[E]

That's also work.

[A]

You play video games. You're just like a market now. Would you be open to, like, if you find a perfect woman and she's everything for you, and she's like, yeah, you can video game all you want, but maybe also she's finding a little dick on the side, like an open relationship. Well, she opened one way for her.

[B]

I don't. I don't know how I feel about.

[A]

You love video games. She loves dick on the side.

[B]

So I. So, so it's open one way.

[C]

I'm just.

[B]

I get access to games. Yes, she gets access.

[A]

Yeah. So, like, you're like, I want to play video games for seven hours tonight. She's like, no problem. I got a date.

[B]

Date? Yeah. We're just in, like a. A. A super fun friendship. I'm down to have, like, some silly friendships.

[E]

Yeah, but that would be perfect. But you should put in a rule. Like, you're allowed to have a little side piece, but you have to be married to him. So she's married.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

But you're also dating her. But occasionally she's allowed to sleep with her husband.

[B]

Yeah, they're fully committed to.

[E]

While you play video games.

[B]

Yeah. Who am I to step in the way of vows? You know, they're fully committed.

[E]

I mean, you get to be with her intimately, too. But she's allowed to cheat on you with her husband if you're playing video games.

[B]

Does he play the game too?

[E]

Yeah. I mean, if you guys want to have.

[A]

You want to be friends. Yeah.

[B]

Is that the best way to go about that? I wouldn't know how to go about that. I've never.

[A]

Quite a relationship.

[E]

Yeah, you gotta be vagmogging him a little bit, but that's fine.

[B]

We'll start somewhere. I don't know if we should start there, but we'll start maybe. Baby steps.

[A]

Okay. All right, we got it. So reach out if you're. If you're a girl out there who's. Who's looking for everything. Check, check. All those boxes.

[B]

But if you don't also, it's completely understandable.

[E]

All right, let's.

[A]

Let's do numbers.

[F]

PMT Boucher party. Gmail.com you have fat.

[A]

It's. Yep.

[C]

That's.

[F]

That's where. That's where we're gonna look.

[E]

Anything we describe to you sounds like you even. Even a little reach out.

[F]

I will be looking@pmt boucherpartygmail.com.

[E]

You should do a dating show for Zach.

[A]

Yeah. All right.

[C]

Number seven, three.

[A]

23.

[F]

80.

[C]

56.

[E]

77.

[A]

New machine starting. There we go.

[B]

28.

[A]

Get it, Colton. Get it. 64.

[E]

64.

[C]

64.

[A]

I don't think anyone's getting on this machine.

[E]

Love you guys.

[C]

I think so we got.

[E]

No, it's like a happy birthday to front of the program, Diana Rossini. Oh, great reporter. That was me mean on her birthday. Well, it's her birthday, I think is the 11th, which is close to today when this comes out. Love you guys.