NCAA Tournament Mega Recap, Lack Of Upsets, Storylines, Cal vs Pitino, Duke's Dominance And More

Summary

Pardon My Take: NCAA Tournament Mega Recap, Lack Of Upsets, Storylines, Cal vs Pitino, Duke's Dominance And More Release Date: March 24, 2025

On this episode of Pardon My Take, hosts Big Cat and PFT Commenter delve deep into the 2025 NCAA Tournament, dissecting the events of the past four days. Despite a tournament that many deemed "not the greatest," the duo highlights notable moments, teams, and storylines that kept fans engaged.

1. Tournament Overview: Lack of Upsets and "Madness"

The hosts express disappointment over the scarcity of upsets in the tournament, pointing out that for the first time in 15 years, seeds one through four dominated their first-round matchups.

• Big Cat [06:24]: "This was the first time in 15 years I read that all the one, two, threes and fours won their first-round game."

• PFT Commenter [07:45]: "There was no madness this year. It was too sane."

The discussion attributes this trend to factors like NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) and the transfer portal, which have seen Power Five schools poach top talent from smaller programs, thereby reducing the likelihood of Cinderella stories.

2. Breakdown by Region

South Region: Auburn vs. Creighton

Auburn's performance against Creighton was a focal point, with both teams exhibiting strong play but ultimately Auburn securing the win.

• Big Cat [15:31]: "The scariest part about Auburn as a team is Pettiford, the guy who comes off the bench, who's an NBA player. He was awesome."

• PFT Commenter [15:36]: "He's got a little George Pickens in him. He's just really great rebounders."

The hosts commend Auburn's bench depth, particularly highlighting key players like Chad Baker Mazara for their impactful performances.

West Region: Florida vs. UConn

The matchup between Florida and UConn showcased strategic coaching and standout performances, with Florida emerging victorious.

• Big Cat [37:28]: "Walter Clayton, he is awesome. He glides on the floor. His movement is just so smooth."

• PFT Commenter [38:38]: "Nothing egregious. Florida was just the better team. The better team won."

The discussion touches on UConn's complex offense under Coach Dan Hurley, praising their resilience despite Florida's physical playstyle.

3. Coaching Strategies and Tournament Dynamics

The hosts explore how coaching decisions and tournament scheduling impact team performances.

• Big Cat [10:01]: "If you're Tom Izzo, you'd have to just have it on loop of them disrespecting the ass."

• PFT Commenter [22:15]: "He's been doing this for a very long time, but yeah. Is this Cal's best coaching job?"

They discuss Tom Izzo's legendary status in the tournament, as well as Calipari's resurgence with Arkansas, emphasizing the importance of experienced coaching in navigating March Madness.

4. Notable Performances and Storylines

Houston vs. Gonzaga

Houston's consistent excellence is highlighted, noting their strategic play and ability to shoot crucial threes.

• Big Cat [73:37]: "Houston elbow three is always, is always money."

• PFT Commenter [90:04]: "Houston tried to give it away at the end."

St. John's Success Under Pitino

St. John's surprising run to the Sweet 16 under Rick Pitino's leadership is examined, with hosts debating the strength of the Big East conference.

• Big Cat [50:22]: "They have a very good team. But it wasn't like we all thought this could happen where they just don't make their shots."

• PFT Commenter [60:41]: "You can't. What do you mean? Yukon was in that game, the entire game against the best team in the country."

5. Impact of NIL and Transfer Portal

The conversation returns to the broader implications of NIL and the transfer portal on the tournament's unpredictability.

• Big Cat [06:48]: "I think it's a fair critique. I think you need a little bit more of a sample size than two years."

• PFT Commenter [09:54]: "But it is kind of weird that the transfer portal is now open. Yeah, it opened up on Sunday night."

6. Memorable Moments and Anecdotes

Throughout the episode, the hosts share humorous anecdotes and memorable moments from the games, adding their unique flair to the analysis.

• Big Cat [77:20]: "I got it back in halftime of Florida UConn today."

• PFT Commenter [84:12]: "I'm, I'm, I'm not expressing it well. I was bummed, but BYU played better, so I can't really say anything."

7. Closing Thoughts

As the tournament progresses, Big Cat and PFT Commenter reflect on the excitement and anticipation for the upcoming Sweet 16 and beyond.

• Big Cat [93:11]: "We have people hitting all of us up, being like, hey, just so you guys know, Big Cat's account got hacked."

• PFT Commenter [99:51]: "Duke is awesome. So good. And I don't hate John Shire."

They express a mix of hope and skepticism about the remaining teams, emphasizing that while the tournament lacked upsets, the high-caliber teams promise thrilling matchups ahead.

Conclusion

Despite a tournament marked by predictability, Pardon My Take offers insightful and entertaining commentary on the NCAA Tournament's progression. From coaching strategies to player performances, Big Cat and PFT Commenter provide a comprehensive recap that keeps listeners engaged and informed.

Notable Quotes:

• Big Cat [06:24]: "This was the first time in 15 years I read that all the one, two, threes and fours won their first round game."

• PFT Commenter [22:23]: "He's such a good coach that now you're like, we expect more from you."

• Big Cat [73:37]: "Houston elbow three is always, is always money."

• PFT Commenter [99:51]: "Duke is awesome. So good. And I don't hate John Shire."

(Note: Timestamps correspond to the original transcript for reference.)

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But no, I don't think we should cover that.

[Big Cat]

All right. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You respect his privacy.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

That we mainlined that. That was four days, tough four days of watching hoops, sitting on a couch. My steps, I think my steps per day topped out at about 5 or 600.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is the way that God intended. Yes, it was a great weekend of sports. It ended up being pretty chalky, but that's okay.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

We got some great matchups coming up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So we're going to go through each region and break it down. I do want to say before we get into. When you're listening to this right now on Monday morning, this is one of the toughest Mondays of the entire calendar year. I stand with you. It's. You get four days where you just watch nothing but hoops. The moments in between the games, the moments you wake up on Saturday and Sunday, you're just waiting for the hoops to start again, and then Monday comes and they rip it all away from you. And I just sit there on this Monday and I kind of stare blankly outside. Basically Pablo Escobar staring outside of a window, being like, well, where's the basketball?

[PFT Commenter]

No basketball.

[Big Cat]

Why isn't there basketball? We were saying it in the cave. The nit should just play all day Monday and we nus off.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, when's the crown play, Max?

[Big Cat]

We need. We need something to know your dial.

[PFT Commenter]

The crown should be playing.

[Hank]

It's the week of the final four.

[Big Cat]

Or you know what should be. It should be opening day. MLB would be smart to be like, hey, here's opening day. I know you guys are. Have just went through four days where you thought maybe it's. It's the same feeling of being on a bachelor party with. With your best friends and having that moment where you're like, man, maybe we should just do this. Maybe we should get a house together in San Diego and just live just the boys, all 15 of us, and just say fuck off to our families. And then you have that moment like, fuck, I got to go back to real life. That's today.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it probably does save some relationships, though, because you just spent the last four days watching sports all day on tv. If you did it again on Monday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You might have to have A hard conversation.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I, I know it's a personal problem, but I just, I, I always struggle with this Monday. And this isn't just because, you know, when we started that our job is sports. This was before barstool, before pmt. Like, this Monday always sucked for me because I was just like, that was it another, another, another year. And then you look at the, you look at the Thursday matchups for sweet 16 and you just, you look at the schedule, you say, where are all the games?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So why. It feels like there should be more.

[PFT Commenter]

Games if you got home on Monday from work and then maybe your significant other was like, okay, we got. You made me wait to watch Severance. So we got that recorded White Lotus recorded. Let's sit down, have a family night. And you're like, UAB is playing UNT.

[Big Cat]

And I want to watch.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of want some money on the game. Yeah.

[Memes]

And the people that work like a corporate job have to go in and listen to, you know, their co workers who don't even really watch sports, talk about their.

[Big Cat]

The brackets. Yeah. It's a brutal day.

[PFT Commenter]

This is, I think this day is probably the number one water cooler day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And it's, it's. Yeah. And this year it's going to be a lot of, man, what happened to March Madness? What happened to the upsets? What happened to Cinderella? I, I just, I'm just saying, I'm here with you guys. I know that our job is a little different than people listening to this show, but you, you are seen. I'm, I'm, I'm shining a light on how much today sucks for you because you're sitting in your car right now. You're on your commute. Like, man, it's just like the dopamine of, of wall to wall hoops when they take it away from you. I'm an addict. I need the hoops.

[PFT Commenter]

But, but if you are a fan of one of the teams that's still in it, this is a great Monday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because that now you get to just relive the entire. You got two games that you get to think back on, read all the.

[Big Cat]

Stats from, make plans for Thursday or Friday of where you're going to go drink, hang out. Yeah. No, it's. Are you, Are we going to go to the game? All right, so. Well, before we do the regions. Has. Is March Madness gone? Have we lost March?

[PFT Commenter]

There was no madness this year. It was, it was too sane.

[Big Cat]

So, so the, the biggest culprit that I being blamed is nil and transfer portal I think that's actually a fair critique because what has happened with a lot of these games is that or a lot of these teams, a lot of those smaller conferences will take a shot on a guy who maybe wasn't a, you know, a high level guy out of high school. Maybe was it juco, maybe didn't grow all the way. They take a shot on him. He's good for a year and then he gets plucked in the transfer portal in nil. And all the power five schools are basically picking apart all the smaller schools and taking their best players and then you don't get upsets. I actually think it's a fair critique. I think you need a little bit more of a sample size than two years. But we did lack, especially the first two days, the madness we had. No, what would, what would be the moment we even looked to for the first two days. McNeese.

[PFT Commenter]

McNeese. Yeah, McNeese in the first round.

[Big Cat]

That was Robert Morris for a half.

[PFT Commenter]

That was pretty mad. Also. Was it Norfolk?

[Big Cat]

Norfolk.

[PFT Commenter]

Norfolk was. They were, they were plucky. They were frisky.

[Big Cat]

Norfolk for the middle, the middle 20 minutes of the game. And because they lost BY like, like 30.

[PFT Commenter]

The story, the, the underdog story, the feel good Hoosiers story coming out of this weekend was those, those plucky underdogs at Arkansas. Coach Cal. Yeah, he is the one. Cinderella. Yeah, that's still left. And he's at Arkansas. They were 10 seeds, so it still counts. But yeah, we don't get the mid majors, which is unfortunate.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because it's good.

[PFT Commenter]

But also for college basketball, it's one, maybe two of those.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And the matchups are all really good. If you look at what we're looking at for Thursday and Friday, it's going to be some good games.

[Big Cat]

I'm a big believer. And you don't want the St. Peter's going all the way to the Elite Eight and having a blowout game in the Elite Eight. I want the basketball to get better and better as the tournament goes along. But we absolutely missed out on having one or two crazy upsets. I think it was the first time in 15 years I read that all the one, two, threes and fours won their first round game. So that, that tells you everything right there. Like we didn't have that one moment a buzzer beater or a 15 point dog winning it all. It was also. I also was laughing because the, the gambling influencers online has become a popular business and I saw a few dudes doing TikToks being like, here's the plan for March Madness. We take every single Moneyline dog straight in the first two days.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeesh.

[Big Cat]

Were you one of those influencers?

[Memes]

I was not.

[Big Cat]

It's like it, this was not the year to do that. This was not the year.

[PFT Commenter]

There was no madness.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We lacked very little madness.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right. So, yeah, I mean, I, I, I, I'm holding out hope that we'll get the madness in, in future years, but it would be crazy for us to do this show on Monday and be like, wow, that was incredible. That was the best thing we ever see. It wasn't. We lacked madness this year.

[PFT Commenter]

But also still had fun. But also, if there's anything that you don't like about sports, the very first thing that you can always point as you're like, nil. Transfer portal, nil.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. And I did do it and all.

[PFT Commenter]

But it is kind of weird that the transfer portal is now open. Yeah, it opened up on Sunday night.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, it's like college football. They do the same thing when the playoffs are still going on. The transfer portal is happening. I was saying in the cave as well that like, I, if you're say like 50 billion, you have 50 billion. You don't own a sports team. Just start doing cool guy moves that everyone will be like, man, that guy rocks. If I were Mark Cuban, I don't have the Mavs anymore, I would just be like, hey, you know what? I need the madness. All the small schools in college basketball and Division 1 college basketball, I'm going to give you $3 million each, any non Power 5 school for per year.

[PFT Commenter]

So then you get some of the second guys from the power five from the big program.

[Big Cat]

They'd be able to keep some of their guys. Yeah, they'd be able to keep their guys, their homegrown guys still going to.

[PFT Commenter]

Be able to get outspent by the big program, of course. But they now, the SEC learned that once you start throw, once you throw money at all the sports that you used to just throw money, like football was the one place.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Where they would dominate for a while. And now the SEC is like, oh, we can pay basketball players too. Let's go.

[Big Cat]

But I would like some cool, some rich guy to be just like, win cool guy of the year. We'll give you the award, win cool guy of the year. And just say, hey, oh, Akron, you have a, you have a guy you took a shot on who was incredible this year and now he's going to get $250,000 from a Power 5 program. Well, here's $250,000. Keep them there. Have fun.

[PFT Commenter]

For the billionaires that don't have a school that they like. All right, Right.

[Big Cat]

Or just for billionaires who love the.

[PFT Commenter]

Madness, I would say that billionaires that. That love madness probably have already found a school that they're giving money to buy.

[Big Cat]

I also. They don't give a fuck about the mat. They're. They. They truly wouldn't care. Like, oh, man, I can't believe. Oh, boohoo. I have $50 billion and there wasn't enough madness. That's probably not going through their heads.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably.

[Big Cat]

I'm just looking out for. For the regular guys.

[PFT Commenter]

They're the billionaires like that. They're like, oh, the sports is on tv.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys are. Watch.

[Hank]

I was thinking about this. Take more. What happens when they run out of the money?

[Big Cat]

What do you mean?

[Hank]

So does that billionaire just have to give a billion every year?

[Big Cat]

Maybe not a billion, but like 500 million. If you have. If you had 100 billion, that's a lot of billions.

[PFT Commenter]

How many?

[Big Cat]

I'm not a financial advisor. I'm not very good with my own money. But this is what I would do.

[PFT Commenter]

I think what big cat's asking for is very polite.

[Memes]

All those hundred billion.

[PFT Commenter]

If the crown prince of Saudi Arabia wants to get involved in mid major college basketball, now is the time to do it.

[Hank]

Or you have to continue to do.

[Big Cat]

Here's what you should. Okay, fine. You know what? Just one of these hundred billionaires, just give me the money and I'll handle it.

[Hank]

I think that'll go badly for you.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[Hank]

Because it doesn't sound like you're thinking.

[Big Cat]

How sick would it be, though? The king of the little guys.

[Hank]

Well, we were talking about in the cave at first.

[Big Cat]

Million. Yeah.

[Hank]

You said 20 million to 200 schools. I was like, no one is that rich to just like do this every year.

[PFT Commenter]

20 million. You wouldn't have to give it to 200.

[Hank]

That's what he said.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's the deal with the mid majors. There's mid majors and then there's mid. Mid majors.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, like some of the familiar names for the mid majors that we like to see. Runners.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There's the one bid leagues that I would just be like, all right, pick the one team and I'll give you the money this year. Yeah, like, you guys. You guys could roast.

[PFT Commenter]

The mountain west gets four or five.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they get. They get. Yeah, they would get. Yeah, they would. They get to pick four or five. But like, yeah, the Patriot League. You get one team. Yeah, I'm going to boost one team. Maybe I'd spin a wheel. That would be a cool selection Sunday where it's like every year right before the transfer portal opens, you. Everyone gets to tune in. It's like, all right, Lehigh, you're getting 20 million this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Administrative errors. Like, the Mac gets five teams, but it accidentally goes to the Mac.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the two.

[PFT Commenter]

A Mac.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I would boost the fuck out of the Mac. That would be awesome. If I just gave a billion to the Mac.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. Maybe not the smartest idea, but it was an idea I had. This is kind of max. My math on this was like the meme that goes around every now and then. We're like, what if Bill Gates could just give a million dollars to every person in America and, and solve poverty and someone does the money?

[PFT Commenter]

The numbers are like, dude, you get 120.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he doesn't.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what's a better use of this money is if you just pay off refs. Yeah, you'd only have to pay off like 15 guys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that too. Or pay off the big boys to be like, hey, why not maybe get upset today?

[PFT Commenter]

Take a dive.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, here's a million bucks. All right, let's get to the, to the regions. Let's get to the games. Let's start. We'll do, we'll do the bracket in order. This bracket, by the way, that was printed out for us on Sunday night with none of the regions has set me back. I couldn't name any of the regions.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, there was a first bracket. You got the second bracket. There was, there was a different one that was on your desk because I got the first one and it's good. Auburn, you want to start in that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, we'll do it. We'll do it in order.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the South.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's in the South. It's in the top left. Auburn, Creighton, Auburn. I feel like there was the vibe that Auburn had bad vibes. They had lost, you know, three out of four. I think going into the tournament, this was one of those games where everyone, I feel like, wanted to Creighton to win. Bet Creighton and Auburn. It was a very close game. Then Auburn was like, wait, we're Auburn, we're better than you. And I think it was a tie game with 10 minutes left. And then you looked up and it was a 10 point game and. And Janai Broome didn't even play well. Like he was missing every little bunny. The Scariest part about Auburn as a team is Pettiford, the guy who comes off the bench, who's an NBA player. He was awesome. And they have that guy coming off.

[PFT Commenter]

The bench and they also have the. The crazy guy, Chad Baker Mazara.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Who gets kicked out of a couple.

[PFT Commenter]

Had a great game. I love watching play. He's got a little George Pickens in him. Yeah, he just goes nuts. And he is a force when he's the DNA of guys that are just really great rebounders. They're fascinating to be just because they're always fighting. And he's one of those guys. He takes it over the line sometimes. But yeah, he was. He was somewhat dominant in that game.

[Big Cat]

I wish that. And Max would not like this. Max, by the way, rip the Big East. No teams in the Sweet 16.

[Hank]

As one of my takes.

[Big Cat]

Anti. Oh, that was one of your. I. I tasked Max. Max was. Is doing what Hank did last week. He's. He's on the IR right now. I'm saying, good, bring some takes. And you said you're gonna bring some takes.

[Hank]

I don't have. I don't have the strongest takes, but I got. I got talking points.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so the Biggie's out. Creighton was not the. Were they the last team in? Yeah, they played before. Oh, Yukon. Yukon was out on Sunday. I wish Colk, Runner and Ashworth could just stay a Creighton forever. They're just such college basketball players. And like, it sucks that that's kind of the end for them getting bounced in the second round. But what was your Big east take?

[Hank]

Just that, like, this tournament doesn't really matter anymore because there's no more Big East.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Your take should be that the Big east tournament is actually the hardest tournament to win.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. That's the national champions.

[Hank]

Like, there's too many SEC teams. Big east is college basketball. SEC is football.

[PFT Commenter]

They're carpetbaggers. Yeah, they're just acting like they've cared about college basketball along. But you know that in your heart of hearts, if you're Auburn, what would you trade for a football. How many basketball national championships would you trade for a football?

[Hank]

Five.

[PFT Commenter]

You think five?

[Hank]

No, no, Less than five.

[Big Cat]

I do agree with this taken that the SEC has two and a half basketball schools that I respect basketball schools. Kentucky, Florida and half of Tennessee. None of the other. Like, Auburn's great. Auburn could win the national. They might win the national. Number one seed. But I don't respect him as a basketball school. That's football. Like that's not insult. That's football.

[Hank]

And I. And I. The fans aren't the same. It's because, like, when you're. When you're watching SEC basketball fans, you know, you're only thinking in the back of your head, like, they don't. They don't care about this. Like they care about football.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[Hank]

When you look at Big East, Big east basketball fans, it's everything.

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Big Cat]

Right. It's all you got.

[Hank]

It's all you got.

[Big Cat]

I mean, Kentucky is. Is that.

[Hank]

Kentucky is an outlier.

[Big Cat]

Florida, because of the history. Right. Like, Florida has the history of being really good at basketball. So I count them as well.

[Hank]

For sure.

[Big Cat]

For sure. In Tennessee as well. Half.

[Hank]

Half of. Yeah, I'm fine with half.

[Big Cat]

You like that take? Yeah, I think East.

[Hank]

It's all of them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Tennessee is up there, though, because they do care.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, no, but in football at Tennessee is obviously there is. Is a clear one.

[PFT Commenter]

They care in a way that, like, they deeply care about because they've never won.

[Big Cat]

Right. But I respect them. I'm giving them a half because I respect their basketball tradition. And they do care. It's more that football still is the king there and Florida gets it just because they've won titles.

[PFT Commenter]

The fact that Alabama has won so many titles in college football and that I think it would still. It would. It would probably take Bama fans like, what, six, seven Natties in football to trade for a basketball one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah. Creighton out, Big east out. Auburn. I think they're. They're fine. Obviously it gets tougher going through, but, like, this was the first game where I think. I think everyone was like, I don't know how Auburn's gonna.

[PFT Commenter]

Auburn's gonna play here shaky in the first round.

[Big Cat]

Right. Well. And they. And they finished the season not looking great, and I think they're fine. And they have that, like I said, like, Jenna Broom didn't play that well. I felt like he missed every short shot that he was taking. And he. He's the national player of the year. He's going to be fine.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Michigan next, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's going to be interesting to see how they go up against the big guys on Michigan.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So Michigan, Texas A and M was one of our good games this weekend, even though the final score doesn't look that great, but this was a great game in the fact that it was like punch, counter punch, where it was very tight in the first half. Then Texas A and m was up 60 to 50 with 13:17 left, and Michigan went on a 31:12 run in the next 10 minutes. Dusty may is just a hell of a coach. He said it on our show. He's like, we needed a reset. We need a reset. What have they done since then? They won the Big Ten tournament, and now they're in the street. 16. And like, his use of. Of, like, Vlad got in foul trouble. He was subbing him in and out. Offense, defense. Vlad was a beast. It was a tough day for any Ohio State fans because Roddy Gale, who transferred to Ohio State, was unconscious. Michigan's just like, I. I just think Dusty May is one of those guys that I'm putting him in, like, tournament coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, yeah, and Vlad's a tournament player big time. And they have. This is interesting. What's it. What's the guy's name from Michigan? Is it Donaldson? Yeah, I think it's Donaldson. He was at Auburn.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then transferred to Michigan. Now they're going to be matched up. And I. I actually like watching Wolf play, too.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Wolf is.

[Big Cat]

He is a little addicted to spin moves.

[PFT Commenter]

He's addicted to spin moves. And he. He, like, might appear kind of frumpy when you first look at him, but I think it's deceptive how fast he is.

[Big Cat]

No, and he's. He also is. He's 7ft and he passes so well. If Michigan. Basically, Michigan is going to come down to, like, every Michigan game. The turnovers. Can they limit the turnovers?

[PFT Commenter]

And Michigan just wants them to keep winning because the longer they win, the longer they have to kind of push off the reality that's hitting some of their other programs right now.

[Big Cat]

Oh, what are you talking about?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

David Weiss.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. There's just other things, other things going on, but we don't have to worry about the other things while sports are still happening.

[Big Cat]

That's true.

[PFT Commenter]

That's how it goes. It's like Florida.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Ole Miss, Iowa State. Chris Beard, another tournament coach. Like, Ole Miss. I don't think anyone expected them to make noise in this tournament. They had a good season in the sec. They weren't one of the dominant teams in the sec. They killed UNC on Friday, and then they killed Iowa State on Sunday. Tournament coach.

[PFT Commenter]

So is this the first sweet 16 that they've been to since. Was it like 2000?

[Big Cat]

It's been a long.

[PFT Commenter]

Something like 20 years. Because I thought that Marshall Henderson had got there. No, but he didn't. It's just that Anytime he won a game, he made. You know, you thought that they just won the final four games.

[Big Cat]

He let you know that he won the game.

[PFT Commenter]

He let you know that they won. But, yeah, Chris Beard and the guys, they. They look very, very good. Today against Iowa State, I asked Mark Titus, this big cat. I'll ask you the same question.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it time to prepare to have a conversation about Otzelberger?

[Big Cat]

In what way?

[PFT Commenter]

Just a conversation of, like, when. When can we expect more than Sweet Sixteens? Because I feel he's a victim of his own success at this point.

[Big Cat]

He's only been there four years.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he's gone to two Sweet Sixteens in four years. I would say not yet, because Iowa State's not exactly the easiest place. They don't have, like, the most resources.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And the most fertile recruiting ground. I'd say he's a really good coach. 2. Four tournament appearances in four years. Two sweet sixteens. Of those four, I would say T.J. altzelberg is a pretty damn good coach. Maybe a little too tight on the polo, that they're getting tired on that. But, yeah, I think he's a very good coach.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm. Not. To be clear, I'm not having the conversation, but I'm saying, is it time for others to begin to prep for the conversation?

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

I think maybe it's okay to prep. It's never too early to prep.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I think. I think going, like, in the next couple years, if he needs to make a deep run. But tournament's so fucking hard, man.

[PFT Commenter]

He's such a good coach that now you're like, we expect more from you.

[Big Cat]

But, I mean, one of his best players gets hurt. Right before that, he kind of kept that from the media, got himself a better seed. But, yeah, no, I think he's a very good coach. And, I mean, he was a very good coach. He took a small school. I can't remember. Where was he before that? I know he was at unlv, but where was he before that? Because I know he took them to the tournament as well.

[PFT Commenter]

South Dakota State.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So I think he's very good coach.

[Hank]

Unlv.

[Big Cat]

No. Yeah, but before I said unlv.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it was a late night.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is a late night.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I'm saying last night.

[Hank]

I'm being helpful over here.

[PFT Commenter]

Last night.

[Hank]

Who fucking brought this up?

[Big Cat]

Is tonight going to be later than last night?

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Oh, is it? Is it? Lisa, flip a coin flip.

[Hank]

You know what?

[Big Cat]

I. I don't.

[Hank]

I am bringing. I'm bringing as much As I would any other.

[Big Cat]

You are bringing a lot. You're bringing a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're gonna hoot with the album.

[Hank]

You'Re still talking more than it's true. Hank hasn't said anything.

[Memes]

No crazy take.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, terrible take.

[PFT Commenter]

That wasn't the take. The take was his time to prepare to have a conversation.

[Memes]

Also bad take.

[PFT Commenter]

Not a hot seat, just a conversation about him.

[Big Cat]

No, no, I'm not.

[PFT Commenter]

Again, I'm not saying hot seat, but some coaches, they start to get labeled as can't get past the sweet 16 once they get good enough at coaching.

[Big Cat]

I think it's so hard in this tournament. You just. The luck of the draw and everything. It's hard. It's hard. He just needs to get a looser polo.

[Hank]

It is way too tight.

[Big Cat]

It's way too tight every game.

[PFT Commenter]

Max. That's not even the one from today. The one he's wearing today.

[Big Cat]

The.

[PFT Commenter]

The gray and black one.

[Big Cat]

It's also crazy because, like, if you're getting your. The shit kicked out of you like they did by Ole Miss today, and Ole Miss was phenomenal. Again, Chris Beard, tournament coach. Like, I. That's a guy. If you're playing the second game, you know, with. With less than 48 hours to plan, give me Chris Beard every time. Because he just feels like he's going to out game plan the. The other coach. But if you're getting the shit kicked out of you, like, throw on a sweatshirt or something. Dude, you're. He's basically wearing a skin suit. It's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

It got smaller.

[Big Cat]

It did. It got smaller. Maybe that's what he should do. Maybe he needs to get even smaller of a polo.

[PFT Commenter]

Just wear the small switch to the. Maybe just a singlet.

[Big Cat]

Maybe he's, like, into bdsm. He's got to punish himself until he gets past the sweet 16.

[PFT Commenter]

If he showed up with a leather. A tight leather one that would. That just zipped, like, all the way up with a hoodie that he could pull over his entire face.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I would bet on him for that.

[Big Cat]

By the way, other win for Ole Miss. I feel like Chris Beard staying. Right. Because all the Iowa got Ben McCollum from Drake. We already knew that Darren Devries went to Indiana, and then Sean Miller went to Texas.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So I don't know where Chris Beard would go, but I feel like they might have survived one of those, you know, coaching carousels, Nova. Because remember, Rick Pitino came in here and he told us.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's like, chris Beard should be the coach of Indiana, Nova.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, do you want Chris Beard?

[Big Cat]

Not a Nova guy. Not.

[Hank]

Not a Nova guy.

[Big Cat]

Where is it at? Where we at with the Nova search?

[Hank]

I don't know. Maryland keeps winning, so it's not great there. Maybe this guy.

[Big Cat]

Who? T.J. altober.

[Hank]

Take him.

[Big Cat]

I would. I have dibs on him. Years from now. He is from Wisconsin.

[Hank]

We. Vilna was a much better job.

[Big Cat]

I'm just saying. I have dibs on him.

[Hank]

I. Well, we'll see.

[Big Cat]

Well, do you not respect dibs? No.

[Hank]

I gotta respect dibs.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

I gotta respect.

[Big Cat]

I rest my case. PFT has dibs on Cooper Flag.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And you respect that?

[Hank]

That one I don't respect.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you do respect it.

[Hank]

Well, we'll see.

[Big Cat]

Nasty.

[Hank]

If. If you get. If you get the first pick, I will respect it.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

But if.

[Hank]

But if the Sixers get the first pick, I will not.

[PFT Commenter]

He should go back to college.

[Big Cat]

Yes. By the way, you know what that is?

[PFT Commenter]

The Sixers do a great job. Big men with ankle injuries.

[Hank]

He's not a big man.

[PFT Commenter]

How tall is he?

[Hank]

But he's not a big man.

[PFT Commenter]

He is a big man with ankle injuries.

[Hank]

He.

[Big Cat]

He is a taller guy who had a sprained ankle. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Paul George, he's a big man.

[Hank]

No, you don't.

[Big Cat]

You're not using a bad job.

[PFT Commenter]

I said he is.

[Big Cat]

Everyone in the NBA, Paul George is a big man.

[PFT Commenter]

Fact or fiction.

[Hank]

He is a tall. He is. He's tall.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's tall. He's tall. All right, last one in this region, New Mexico, Michigan State. Great seeing Rick Patino out there supporting Rich Richard. I don't know if you saw the picture. I think most picture. Great fans behind him.

[PFT Commenter]

Everybody was behind him.

[Big Cat]

New Mexico, great fans. Michigan State deserves a lot of credit because Michigan State got punched in the mouth at the beginning of this game. And they just keep. They keep pushing the pace and they're just dogs. New Mexico probably could have gotten a better whistle, I'll say that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, probably.

[Big Cat]

Probably.

[PFT Commenter]

But they. They didn't hang in there.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

It looked promising at the start. I mean, I think that's one Coach Richard Patino. It's. It's a matter of time before he's in the Big East. Right.

[Big Cat]

Well, he's got to take over for St. John's that's a succession.

[PFT Commenter]

He could.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I was thinking there's people having a discussion at Providence right now, seats heating up.

[Big Cat]

Is he a. Is he a big conference coach? Not so much in Minnesota. Yeah.

[Hank]

He was a name. He was a name that was floating around Villanova circles, I think. I think the Minnesota years have scared some people.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but that would be good. Get a little more Italian.

[PFT Commenter]

It just does feel like his destiny to be in the Big east at some point. Right?

[Big Cat]

I agree. Yeah. New Mexico, they just kind of ran out of gas. And Michigan State was just better. Tom Izzo, now 16th sweet 16. And I saw this. Someone has a chart where they have, like, expected wins in the tournament. I would assume that's based on, like, being, you know, favorites and seating and all that stuff. Tom Izzo has been to the tournament 21 times. His expected wins are 27.6. He has 39 wins. It might be 40 now. And that's 11.4 difference. The next closest on this chart is Cal with. He has six wins above expected. So Tom is a very good tournament coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Very good. Did you see what he did last year when he got bounced?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He wrote down, I'm getting back to a deeper run in this tournament or I'm going to die trying.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He said that out loud.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He was literally going to. To kill himself trying to get back to this point, and he did it.

[Big Cat]

I believe him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

I absolutely believe him.

[Memes]

Would love to see Michigan. Michigan State in the Elite 8 BE scenes.

[Big Cat]

That would be scenes, Hank. That would. That's a great point, Hank. One, max zero. That was a great point.

[Hank]

I. I'm not going to lie. I'm not paying attention.

[Big Cat]

Who gets great point, Hank?

[Hank]

I was actually prepping for the next region. No, I'm trying to count, as meant. How. How many football schools and basketball schools are left. And there's honestly more basketball schools than. I thought that.

[Big Cat]

Okay, wait, wait. Give us. Do you have the number?

[Hank]

No, I'm in the process.

[Big Cat]

When you. When you're ready, interrupt us and tell us. And I want to go down the list and list off every school because I would like to debate that. Great point, Hank. Michigan. Michigan State would be scenes in the Elite 8. Scenes.

[Memes]

Scenes.

[Big Cat]

Scenes.

[PFT Commenter]

Get to kiss the logo at center court. Kiss the bracket.

[Big Cat]

I'd like. I'd like Tom Izzo get back to another Final Four, because that does feel like even if Michigan State doesn't win at all, it would be one of those. We can. We can really sit and enjoy Tom Izzo's career. You get the stories written about him. Like, this is crazy. He's, you know, 30 years in coaching, he's back to another Final Four.

[PFT Commenter]

Tough to beat a team three times in the same season.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I wonder if he would. I think you. If You're Tom Izzo. You'd have to. You'd have to just have it on loop of them disrespecting the ass.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, because they were about to kiss that ass. Kiss the ass.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you gotta kiss that ass. All right, let's take a break and then we'll go to the next region. This episode of Pardon My Takes brought to you by our friends at Game Time. The best part of college basketball is here and we know you're as excited as we are to watch some big upsets throughout the tournament while we're streaming in the cave. You can get out to see the action in person with Game Time, the official ticketing partner. Barstool Sports. Game Time makes getting tickets faster and easier. Price on the app actually go down the closer it gets to showtime. Plus the Game Time Picks feature makes it even easier to find the great deals on the seats you want. You can even find last minute tickets for the tournament for up to 60% off quickly and easily. Just pull up your chosen event and turn on the GT pick setting at the top of the screen or browse the best local Game Time picks deals near you on your GameTime app homepage. Hank we're looking at tickets for the regional Thursday Thursday Session 1, New Jersey.

[Memes]

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[Big Cat]

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[Memes]

Hank John Wooden is the all time leader in men's basketball championships with 10. Coach K is second with five.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

We going down? Yeah, we're going down this region.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're going west.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. So we're starting the south, and then we're going down to the west.

[Big Cat]

West. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So Florida, Yukon, great game. Incredible game. Danny Hurley actually coached an awesome game. Because if you saw Florida play the way that they handled their business, you thought that this was. They were just gonna run Yukon out of the gym.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And the way that. That Yukon kind of, like, took away some of the strengths that Florida had. This was as good a job that Danny Hurley's done coaching. And then after the game, him saying, I hope they don't. You like they us.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

He kind of lost his. Danny Hurley lost his.

[Big Cat]

No way.

[PFT Commenter]

And a lot of people are upset at Danny Hurley for being a bad loser. I think. I think he would say, yes, I am a bad loser. I think he would agree with those people. But also, I don't care. Yeah, I don't care that he's a bad loser.

[Big Cat]

People get upset about Danny Hurley whatever he does. And I. I will say it again. The guy wins. Obviously didn't win this game, but he did actually finish. They're still, I think, 140 in their last 14 tournament games against the spread.

[PFT Commenter]

Spread Covered big time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, covered. So. And he said afterwards, like, we fought like champions, and I actually agree with that. UConn was not as good as Florida. UConn fought like a team defending their title and not going out in a sad way. And yeah, Danny Hurley is going to yell about the refs after. What did you expect?

[PFT Commenter]

That's what, that's what coaches do. That's what fans do after a game.

[Big Cat]

Here's the thing. I would rather. I would rather Danny Hurley yell that in a camera than a coach be mad about the refs, get up at the podium and just give cliches and lie about everything.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? Also, I, maybe. Maybe I'm not a doctor, so I can't diagnose him. He might have Tourette's.

[Big Cat]

He could.

[PFT Commenter]

He winces a lot during the games when he drops those F bombs. It might just be a byproduct of Tourette's.

[Big Cat]

There was a clip too, where he. He might. Told Luke Murray, his assistant, to shut up.

[PFT Commenter]

Shut up. Yeah, but that's just a direct communicator because if you're in the moment, you only have X amount of seconds during a timeout. You gotta be directing to the point you can't be having side conversations.

[Big Cat]

And it was. It really was like a. Florida's a better team. UConn had their struggles all year, but their coaching staff is so good. Like, watching that first half, they confused the fuck out of Florida. UConn runs a very complex offense. It's beautiful to watch. And they confused Florida many times. They just couldn't hit the shots.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like they had. They were scheming open, wide open shots. They ended up shooting, I think 27% from 3. That was the difference. They just didn't have the shot making that Walter Clayton has. And Walter Clayton, he is awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

He's. Yes, he is.

[Big Cat]

He is awesome to watch. Think St. John's could have used them?

[PFT Commenter]

Probably, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because he did play for Rick Pitino at Iona. But he. Walter Clayton is so. He. He glides on the floor. I don't know what it is. He's. His movement is just so smooth.

[PFT Commenter]

He's always in rhythm.

[Big Cat]

He's always in rhythm. And that. That dagger three that he hit was just a big time shot and a big time moment. And Florida, that was that. This is why I love the tournament too, because Florida plays in the SEC where it's just constant up and down scoring. You know, every team scoring 80, 90, it's physical. But then they go and play against UConn and. And Yukon throws things at them they haven't seen. And that's why the tournament is so difficult, because you can. You can just have one team that has your number on One day, and it's it.

[PFT Commenter]

And to clear something up, I. I saw what Danny Hurley said after the game, and then I went back to look at maybe some of the calls he was complaining about, and I. I think the refs called a pretty good game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, the refs have not been, like, awesome in this term.

[PFT Commenter]

They were okay. Also, nothing egregious. Florida was just the better team. The better team won.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's good. I'm glad that we get to see more of Florida. But also, this was, like, unexpectedly good performance from you.

[Big Cat]

UConn fought like a champion. That's, like, all you can ask for. Because I did not think they were going to win this game going into this game, and what with five minutes left, I was like, uconn might have him here. And that's a credit to UConn. Florida, though, is nasty. They're. They're fun to watch, too. They just. Do they just shoot threes and dunk.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And it's fun. Okay. Probably the best game of the whole weekend. Probably the best game of the whole tournament.

[PFT Commenter]

This was the madness.

[Big Cat]

Maryland, Colorado State. Derek Queen's buzzer beater that now is being called to travel. And it might have been a travel, but I'm so happy they didn't call it a travel because I wanted to watch a buzzer beater. That was such an awesome big boy move by him. And then afterwards, just saying, like, are you nervous for the moment? He's like, no, I'm from Baltimore.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So. So they. They asked him, what play did you call? He said. I said, who wants the ball? And then Queen said, give me the ball. Yeah, So I gave him the ball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Kevin Willard said that after.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He asked everyone in the huddle who wants the ball? And he's like, I want the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

So Jalen Lake was the guy from Colorado State that hit that shot that then got before.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

By. By Queen. We should do it. Mount Rushmore. Can we put that. Hank, can you write that down? Maybe next to the bunk list, the shot before the. Yeah, the shots that nobody remembers. Yeah, that's a good bangers.

[Big Cat]

That.

[PFT Commenter]

That just get completely lost to history because.

[Hank]

Marcus Page.

[PFT Commenter]

Marcus Page.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Marcus Page. Good one. Very good one.

[Memes]

Curse.

[Big Cat]

That one's a. That's a big one.

[Memes]

Catch before Malcolm Butler.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's a good one.

[Hank]

Javon curse.

[PFT Commenter]

Was it? Javon curse.

[Hank]

Javon Curse.

[PFT Commenter]

The defensive end from Tennessee and Philadelphia.

[Memes]

You know who I'm talking about?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're talking about the guy in The Seahawks.

[PFT Commenter]

Who caught off Jermaine Curse. What was his name? Is a great catch by the. By that guy on the sideline.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Jermaine Curse.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Memes]

Sorry.

[Big Cat]

Good job.

[PFT Commenter]

Because we don't. Because we don't remember him.

[Memes]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. We should do that.

[PFT Commenter]

That banger of a joke in My American Cousin right before Booth got up there. Oh, it was a great joke.

[Big Cat]

Got him. Yeah. This was an awesome game, though. And Florida's nasty fun to watch. Oh, no, we're talking about Maryland, Colorado State. My brain's fucking done.

[PFT Commenter]

Crabness. March. Crabness.

[Big Cat]

I feel bad for Colorado State. I didn't say they were one of the hottest teams going in the tournament. They played awesome. I mean, they beat Memphis. I know they were favorites. It was a 12. 5. And then they took Maryland to the brink here. And. Yeah, probably was a travel. But again, who's.

[Memes]

You can't call that.

[Big Cat]

You can't call that.

[PFT Commenter]

That also happens every game, and it's never called.

[Big Cat]

We. We spent the entire weekend saying, why is this on tv?

[Memes]

No, no, no, no.

[Big Cat]

There's a woman naked who's just like. Who doesn't have legs. Yeah. Turn it off.

[Hank]

Making it afraid. I don't. Why are you looking at me?

[Big Cat]

Turn it off. Yes, it is working. Turn it off.

[Hank]

She's got no legs, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Put that.

[Big Cat]

I don't want to see this every time.

[Memes]

Turn it off.

[PFT Commenter]

On the bunk list for yourself. That you put that on and wanted.

[Big Cat]

It to keep it on. Now it's a dude naked walking around. Get it off.

[Memes]

Naked and af.

[Big Cat]

This is just TBS getting all these ratings from the games. Get it off. Why can't you turn it off? You're. Turn it off. He's not turning. He's actually watching.

[PFT Commenter]

And the longer it stays on, the longer I kind of like it.

[Big Cat]

What was. We would always come on when we were. When we were in the old studio in New York.

[Memes]

American Ninja Warrior.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's right. American Ninja Warrior was like our closing time time. Time to go home.

[PFT Commenter]

And there's. There's a show that's always on TV in the morning after the NBA playoffs, if you, like, go to the gym.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And they still have the TVs on from last night.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Was it Charmed? Is that the one that's always on?

[Big Cat]

It might be Charmed.

[PFT Commenter]

Charmed.

[Big Cat]

Ah, yeah. But Colorado State, they played their balls off. And. Oh. What I was gonna say is you can't spend all weekend saying there's no madness. And then when there's the one madness that happens. Like travel.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the travel people. A lot of people. When you slow it down, you look at it, he might have taken a gather step, which you can't do in college.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But that same play happens all the time. It's never called in real time.

[Memes]

Unless you went to Colorado State. That should not bother, right?

[Big Cat]

Colorado State fans every right to be upset. Send that replay everywhere. Everyone else, it was an awesome shot. It was an awesome moment. It was a big boy move. Derek Queen is. Is really good at basketball. I don't know. We've had this debate when we've been watching the games. The baggy, long sleeves. Not a huge fan of. But everything else about Derrick Queen is awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Just must get super hot.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

It is kind of nuts.

[Big Cat]

You must just love a sweat.

[PFT Commenter]

Although, like, you see some of the.

[Memes]

It's kind of swaggy. You think you hit a shot like that too True.

[PFT Commenter]

We're gonna remember that. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Now everyone's gonna do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Jokic could probably wear one of those.

[Big Cat]

Gene Stereotor said it was not a travel gene.

[Hank]

Gene said no travel Gene starts are also Gene.

[Big Cat]

Let's go.

[Hank]

Wait.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's a way too much.

[Big Cat]

Way too much.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's get. Let's go to Gene and he'll tell us if the refs got this one right. Yeah, I think they got this one right, guys. All right. Thanks, Gene.

[Hank]

Another way the replays have got to be fixed.

[Big Cat]

Do you know? Too many replays two minutes ago, replays with travel.

[PFT Commenter]

Now, we don't want that.

[Big Cat]

You know what they need to do to get the replays? Like, maybe fewer replays. Every time they do a replay, it should just be a solo cam on the ref's face. And then we slowly just do, like, facts about that guy's life. And then if you do too many replays, eventually it's just gonna be your address.

[PFT Commenter]

Too many more.

[Big Cat]

Post your address online. Like, it's just like, oh, this is what this guy. This is what he likes. This is what he. And it's just, hey, man, you did 15 replays in the last four minutes. Now we know your. You know your passwords to all your. Your computers and your address and your wife's name. We know everything.

[PFT Commenter]

I think what. What you do is line by line, you just show his browser history.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right. Something to make it so that, like, hey, we got to do this replay really fast, because if we don't, they're going to know that I was on pornhub an hour before Tip.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, Gene Steritor. He's a football school.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's not a basketball.

[Hank]

Do you want to know my numbers?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, let's go. Let's do it.

[Hank]

It's way more basketball schools than. Than I was anticipating.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so go. But say the school and then say whether it's a football or basketball school. School.

[Hank]

Okay. Arkansas football.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Hank]

Texas Tech. I put under. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

No, that's football school.

[Big Cat]

It's football school.

[Hank]

Okay. But. Okay. Arizona basketball. Duke basketball. Byu.

[Big Cat]

I put. I don't know. That's kind of just Borman.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

Bama football. Maryland basketball.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Florida. We said basketball, but it's a.

[Big Cat]

It's. It's a true 50. 50 school.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think Florida is a bad football.

[Big Cat]

It is, but they've also won, right? Yeah. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But if Florida's a football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is a football school. But it's like they're so good at basketball, too.

[Hank]

Purdue basketball.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Hank]

Houston basketball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Michigan football. Auburn football. Kentucky basketball. Tennessee. We said half.

[PFT Commenter]

I think at the end of the day it's a football school.

[Big Cat]

I was more saying half there. I respect their fans.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Ole Miss football. Michigan State basketball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So good luck.

[Big Cat]

So what was the total?

[Hank]

Well, now we. We switched a couple of them and I don't. I don't know how to do this math.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

I think.

[Hank]

Are we putting. So we're putting Florida floors of football.

[Big Cat]

Football.

[Hank]

So I think that would be seven.

[Big Cat]

Eight.

[Hank]

Eight football.

[Big Cat]

We got.

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be eight.

[Big Cat]

Sixteen. We're gonna get to 16. Yeah.

[Hank]

No, that actually makes sense. Eight football, seven basketball. One beat one more.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right.

[Hank]

Graphic, Shane, Graphic.

[Big Cat]

Get it. Okay. Texas Tech. Drake. Texas Tech is just. Is good. It was better than Drake. Ben McCollum, the Big. I feel bad for Drake. They have lost their coach in back to back years. Darren Devries went to West Virginia. Now In Indiana, Ben McCollum goes to Iowa. And that sucks because they finally avoided the Drake meltdown. Then they went up against Texas Tech and J.T. toppin, who was. I think he was 11 for 13 from the field. Just an absolute beast. And yeah, that sucks for Drake.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That's the kind of guy where it's like if. If Drake had that, that mystery billionaire nil money, you. You're not going to get a guy like J.T. toppin that's going to be able to do that.

[Big Cat]

Right. And Ben McCollum's a really good coach and he's from Iowa and it was kind of obvious that he was going to go to Iowa, Hank. We'll see. He can play fast. He played fasted his Division 3 when he won national titles there. He played very slow at Drake, but I think that was more because that's what he had. Here's a Texas Tech, maybe a basketball school stat. Texas Tech, they have gone to four sweet sixteens over the last seven tournaments with three different coaches. Pretty impressive.

[PFT Commenter]

That is pretty cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. To do it with three different coaches in that short of amount of time. That's culture.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? I'm willing to hear arguments from Texas Tech students and alumni about basketball school.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

After hearing that stat. Because I was not aware. I just knew Chris Beard and now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Beard, Adams, and then now obviously Grant Castlin, who's their coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So that's. That is a strong compelling argument for Texas Tech basketball school. I just feel like the. The football runs.

[Big Cat]

No, I agree with that. But it's just they deserve a lot of credit because going to that four Sweet 16s in seven years with three different coaches is very hard to do.

[PFT Commenter]

It's that they wouldn't let the Drake Bulldog in again.

[Big Cat]

And Jeffrey was there. Shout out. Jeffrey did memes. You have something? Would you point to memes? Memes. Got nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes. Give me a taste.

[Hank]

I coughed.

[Big Cat]

I went like, oh, okay. Last one. Best one in this region. One. We'll probably talk the most about Arkansas St. John's now this game. If you are someone who is like, man, I wish we could watch. I Wish it was 90s basketball again. This was the game for you. Outside of the fact that they still took 41 three pointers between the two teams. They made four of them.

[PFT Commenter]

It was bad.

[Big Cat]

9.7%. This was 90s basketball. It was physical. It was hard fought. They. They took a lot of three points, didn't make a lot of three pointers. It was ugly, ugly, ugly. But Arkansas out St. John's St. John's and this was. This was what every St. John's fan was. Was fearful in the back of their mind where they were like, we know we can't shoot if we get into a game where we're not shooting. And then RJ Lewis, who's the Big east player of the year, got benched because he was so bad. I don't even understand too when people were like, how do you have him benched? Like, did you watch the game?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he was very bad.

[Big Cat]

He was so bad.

[PFT Commenter]

He had a bad night. I. Yeah, but if he's your best.

[Big Cat]

He was so bad though.

[Memes]

But if you rode if that's the horse you wrote in on, like, but.

[Big Cat]

He was making like. He was not only, like, missing shots, he was like, up their offense bad.

[Memes]

I still think you got to play him.

[PFT Commenter]

I. In a close game. I agree. I think you have to be willing to say he's our best player. One of these has to go in. If we lose because he's out there, that's fine. We'll go down with the ship.

[Big Cat]

What do you end up shooting? 3 for 17.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he was bad. Don't get me wrong. He was bad. And then Patino said he played 30 minutes. That's a long time in Rick Patino's history. 30 minutes is a very, very, very.

[Big Cat]

Long, very long time. That's like.

[PFT Commenter]

That's like four.

[Big Cat]

That's like 120.

[Hank]

One of the guys off the bench played more minutes than him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Richmond fouled out. It was. It was a fun game because of the storylines. I don't know if you guys read any of the stories beforehand. I love the Cal Patino rivalry because they refuse to admit that they hate each other's guts. Like, hate each other's guts. And they refuse to actually say it. Where the Patino before the game. I think on Friday he said, we don't. We don't know each other's wives or children. We're not really close friends. I don't know a whole lot about him, except he's a terrific basketball coach.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you know a lot about, you know, everything.

[Big Cat]

He was literally. Patino was his camp counselor. When. When. In a basketball camp. When. When Cal was growing up. Yeah, that's when they first met. They've known each other for 50 plus years.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They've crisscrossed a million different ways.

[PFT Commenter]

These guys know as much about the other guy as it's possible for a grown man to know about another grow man. There's no question about it. They've been. And they're very similar guys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but they're. Yeah, they're Italian. They're basketball coaches. They hate each other. They won't admit they hate each other. They. They're even. I didn't even know this. There's like this lore that when Patino was at Kentucky and Cal. No, Patino was a. Oh, yeah, he was in Kentucky before that. Cal was going to get the job at UMass. Pitino went to UMass. Pitino says that he voted for Cal to get that job. And there's like lore that that did not happen. And Cal will say it, like, sarcastically be like, thanks. So Much for my career.

[PFT Commenter]

He got me my.

[Big Cat]

Appreciate you so much, dude. And like there's this whole. There's. It's like a very mysterious. There was closed door meetings where he actually was. He was vouching for the other guy going up for the job, not Cal. And then he took credit for vouching for Cal afterwards.

[PFT Commenter]

So they, they have essentially the same career. They started out, they coached in the Northeast, they tried to go to the NBA, didn't work out.

[Big Cat]

Played. Played each other when they were at the Nets and Celtics.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Went back, stayed in Kentucky, stayed in Tennessee for the other guy, then went to Kentucky and now they're. Now they're going up against each other one more time in the tournament. They have had very similar careers. They know each other extremely well.

[Big Cat]

And this is Cal. Cal is now 3 and 2 in the tournament against Patino. And I think he's won. I, I wrote it down. He's won 10 out of or 11 out of last 13 or nine out of the last 11 against Pitino. So he's kind of owning him right now.

[PFT Commenter]

And this is his fourth team that he's taken to the final four or. Excuse me, the Sweet 16.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, his first time in this. In the Sweet 16 since 2019. So he wasn't able to do it with Kentucky when they were three, six and two seed. But I just love it. Oh, the other one that I love from Patino, he said when they asked him about the rivalry with Cal, he was like, I only had one rival. It was Jim Calhoun.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that.

[Big Cat]

Such a nag. Just being like, I never considered Cal a rival and. But it's so clear. They just despise each.

[PFT Commenter]

They both had stuff vacated.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

They started barking at each other during the game too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, it was great.

[Hank]

Cow should come to Villanova.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that was.

[Hank]

He should.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You can't pay the money that Arkansas is paying him.

[PFT Commenter]

I know, but he's got Philly roots, kind of that.

[Big Cat]

I mean, it would be Pennsylvania.

[Hank]

He belongs in the Big East. He belongs in the Big East.

[Big Cat]

Oh man, that would be so.

[Hank]

That'll be awesome.

[Big Cat]

Because they do always just crisscross. Even when, even when Cal took Memphis, he. Louisville was in their conference for a couple of years.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So. Yeah, we need it. We need it. But it was, it was a great game. Arkansas, I. Is this Cal's best coaching job?

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see how. How quick the handshake happened at the end of the game too? The game was still going on.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, I think that they're like Maybe five seconds remaining on the clock. And Colin Patino, like right in each other's face. Quick handshake. A handshake that fast. They don't like each other.

[Big Cat]

No. They hate each other. But they won't say it. They won't say it. And it's so awesome. Saying Jim Calhoun was my only rival is so awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

They also might love each other.

[Big Cat]

You think they'd think if they ever got in the room together and they. It was just two of them, they'd start kissing.

[PFT Commenter]

I think what would happen would be they'd start fighting and then they start wrestling and then they'd stop and be like, what are we doing, people? Each other.

[Big Cat]

We fucking love each other.

[PFT Commenter]

I wanted to do this for years.

[Big Cat]

I am very interested to see what happens with R.J. luis because I think he's got another year and that was an all time like Pitino. We're. We're winning. My way or no way.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know, so will he stay? I assume he'll stay. And will he have a redemption moment and then Patino style still can work in today's college basketball where it's like, you could be hard on your guys, you can bench your guys, but you'll, you'll get to the mountaintop with your guys.

[PFT Commenter]

It does feel like a moment that we look back on in a year and we're like, remember that they show like a clip during the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's gonna have a big moment.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's him on the, on the bench for the second half of that game against Arkansas and then he has a great game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Goes out there and crushes it and it's like complete redemption.

[Big Cat]

It's like, yeah, Patino got. Got that out of him.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I personally would have kept him in the game, but Patino, he might be a better basketball coach than me.

[Big Cat]

He coaches his way. He's been doing it for a very long time, but yeah. Is this Cal's best coaching job? 0 and 5 to start the SEC schedule. He talked a lot about how it's like. He said, this is rewarding. As years I had, I've had. Based on how far we've come, it is impressive. I mean, he, he remember the first day he was at Arkansas, he's like, talk to the team, have no team. It's not. It was, it was kind of like Cal because Cal, like you said, Cal and Patino are very similar. They. They cow his career is like been the underdog stuff until he went to Kentucky because he, he was at UMass. He was at Memphis, which wasn't like a blue blood. Kentucky made him soft. Now he's going back. Arkansas's got basketball history, but they're not the, you know, they're not Kentucky. Now he's kind of the underdog. Feeling himself. Yeah, he's feeling himself again.

[PFT Commenter]

Do we think Kentucky was holding coach Cal back?

[Big Cat]

It was making him soft.

[PFT Commenter]

It was making him cater too much to getting the star players there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because they cared so much about the recruiting.

[Big Cat]

Now he's gonna.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that. That Coach Cal is now a great coach now that he's free from the pressures.

[Big Cat]

Right. He was. It was too luxurious in Lexington.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

For him. Now he's got to get back to his roots and coach basketball.

[PFT Commenter]

He's on a roll in Little Rock.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

On the flip side, is this season a disappointment for the Johnny's?

[Big Cat]

No, I do not think so.

[PFT Commenter]

Disappointment. I mean, they won the Big East.

[Big Cat]

The second year in a full rebuild. They won the Big east and again, I think the tournament is so chaotic and so hard to win that like you can't. If they were, if they were a Florida, they didn't have the talent of a Florida or a Duke or Auburn. They. They had a very good team. But it wasn't like we all thought this could happen where they just don't make their shots.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It turns out that having. Having good shot making ability on your team is important to winning basketball games. It's like they built the entire team out of Ben Simmons. If there was no basket, this would be a great team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If this was your best team. If this was year five at Patino and St. John's they hadn't been to a sweet 16. I think you could definitely say that. What do you. What do you think?

[Hank]

I would like to take a point away from Hank. That was a bad take.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't get. You don't get to determine.

[Big Cat]

He was actually asking a question.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, I'll hear your appeal. You can appeal it.

[Hank]

I would. I would appeal. Wait, appeal what?

[Memes]

Question Point. Difference between a point and a question.

[Big Cat]

Hank asked a question that was a good thought starter. Actually. Now it's 2. 1. Hank, that was a good thought starter.

[Hank]

No, it wasn't. That was. That. That was so obviously wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

You can ask a question that's a.

[Memes]

Question that will be asked on a premier sports show today or tomorrow.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yeah.

[Hank]

You just did it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

No. On like a television.

[Big Cat]

No, no. Point Max. Wrong point Max.

[Memes]

Television program.

[PFT Commenter]

You just did it on a premier.

[Memes]

Sports show on a television program as well.

[Big Cat]

Premier sports Show. I thought that was a good thought starter. Thank you, Hank.

[Memes]

You're welcome.

[Hank]

I thought it was a bad thought.

[Big Cat]

Starter deduction for Max. It's too much.

[Memes]

I think if you're in the big and you don't make the sweet 16, that's disappointing.

[Big Cat]

We should be keeping score between the two of them. Contributions to the show every episode.

[PFT Commenter]

It's two nothing right now. Most dangerously part of my take.

[Hank]

Fun to do.

[Memes]

It's not a competition. Then you just try to take a point away from me. That's.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Max, you did get a point for the football basketball school thing. But then we had to take it away for trying to interrupt Hank's question. That was a good thought starter.

[Hank]

I think that was. I think that was stupid question.

[Big Cat]

Okay, two nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

Max. Why do you think it's a stupid question? Don't, Max.

[Big Cat]

Don't you only care about the Big East?

[Memes]

Max, we know the answer.

[Big Cat]

Don't.

[Hank]

The expectations even in the sweet 16.

[Memes]

But so how good was the conference?

[PFT Commenter]

Don't they have to have higher expectations?

[Hank]

St. John's was a dumpster fire before Pitino went there. The coaches that they brought, they were just a revolving door of bad, bad coaches that underperformed and were and were very disappointing year after year. Patino in his second year won the Big east and basically mid nature they.

[Big Cat]

Don'T have one game.

[Hank]

So you like. Like St. John, like what's an accomplishment.

[Memes]

And not making the sweet 16. It's the same thing.

[Hank]

He's giving terrible points.

[Big Cat]

Good debate.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, because Hank's point is that the Big east doesn't have any teams left.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

So how.

[Hank]

But it's still winning your conference.

[Big Cat]

Does that still getting a two seat?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but does that subtract from how impressive winning the Big east was?

[Hank]

I mean Yukon law. Yukon lost to Florida by two points today. And everyone is saying that Florida's the best team in the country. Like you like it's still a competitive conference.

[PFT Commenter]

You actually made his point because it's a down year for UConn. They don't have a good team this year. So that's a minus point for Big East.

[Big Cat]

Did you just lose another point?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You can't. What do you mean? Yukon was in that. In that game, the entire game against the best team in the country.

[PFT Commenter]

They had a down year for their.

[Hank]

Team, but it's still a good team. I mean, yes, it's a down year for the Big east, but you still win the Biggie.

[PFT Commenter]

I started this conversation off by fully agreeing with you, Max and The more we talk about, the more I'm seeing Hank's point.

[Hank]

You are just forcing yourself to see Hank's point.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it wasn't even a point. You're not. You're not making any points to the contrary.

[Hank]

I just gave you the whole point about St. John's St. John's went through horrible coach after horrible coach, and then they win the Big east under Rick Pitino's second year is a plus to the program.

[Big Cat]

Is this going to end up down? Is this going to end up being like a Menendez thing where we pit them against each other, then they kill both of us?

[Hank]

Yes. I like this.

[PFT Commenter]

No, that was a stupid question. Max is right. Like, obviously St. John's is. Is happy with the way the season was.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Hank, you get the chance to rebut.

[Memes]

Better or worse question than the Iowa State code question.

[Big Cat]

About as bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's like. I wasn't asking the question, Hank. I was asking if it's time to prepare to even have the conversation.

[Memes]

Got it?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's take another break and then we'll keep going through the bracket. This is fun, boys. We're having fun even though our brains are. Are basically mush.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay. East Duke is awesome. So good. And I don't hate John Shire.

[Memes]

White Mike.

[Big Cat]

White Mike. It was very funny that he tried to get his team to call him White Mike. Why?

[Memes]

No, I think that was.

[Big Cat]

No, I, I know. But then he told his team. He was like, yeah, see I could ball. Call me White Bike. I just, I hate, I hate the institution of Duke. I don't hate John Shire yet. Once he starts winning national titles, which I'm sure he probably will do this year, I will start hating him like I hated Coach K. But Duke also has they fucking. I. I hate them to say something nice about Duke. The fact that Duke has their fucking human victory cigar. Being a five eight guy named Spencer Hubbard is so funny wearing 55. That guy out on the court today, he's 27 and oh, when he gets into a game, he was so funny. What a preposterous number. What a preposterous height. Like, just ridiculous.

[PFT Commenter]

What's his story? Where was he from?

[Big Cat]

He's from la. I believe he probably, he probably was the best college basketball player, you know, in his high school and I think he was a walk on and he's, he's just, I Love. I love when teams have human victory cigars. And the fact that he's 5, 8 makes it so much better because it's so clear when he's out there just how ridiculous it looks.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I love about these guys.

[Big Cat]

What do you average?

[PFT Commenter]

Is that he might be the best player to ever play sports at his high school.

[Big Cat]

Wait, wait, what do you average?

[Hank]

13 and 4.

[Big Cat]

Oh. So. No, no.

[PFT Commenter]

So he's.

[Big Cat]

Never mind.

[PFT Commenter]

So how is he on Duke?

[Big Cat]

And he went to. Wait, Harvard? Westlake. I'm pretty sure that's like. Is that where Bronnie went?

[Memes]

Westlake is like, one of the nicest.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he. He probably played on a team with all Division one, so. Guys, wait.

[PFT Commenter]

But now. Now we're connecting some dots. Did LeBron get this guy to Duke?

[Big Cat]

Maybe. Did J.J. i'm a Spencer Hubbard fan. I fucking hate that. I am, but I am. He's so funny when he gets out there.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought Proctor was.

[Hank]

Jeremy Lynn went there, obviously.

[Big Cat]

Jeremy Lynn? Yeah. No, I mean, Duke is just so good. They have so many guys. And.

[PFT Commenter]

And when 7 for 8 from 3.

[Big Cat]

Con canople was like. He was. He was bad for the first part of the game. And then he had. He had this drive on the baseline where he dunked one home. He's like, oh, yeah, that guy's out there. And he's really fucking good, too.

[Memes]

Spencer is the great grandson of Washington.

[PFT Commenter]

Duke, the guy that founded Duke, the.

[Memes]

Father of James, the person who arranged the movement of Trinity College from Randolph county to Durham in 1892 and provided financial support thereafter.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that guy.

[Big Cat]

That's hilarious.

[Hank]

Jeremy Lynn did not go there.

[Big Cat]

Okay, another point taken away from Max. Max, can you look up the. The other. The other storyline that we have going on in this tournament is the Mont Verde team from last year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Crazy, because Derek Queen was on it. Cooper flag. And then one of his teammates who was on Baylor was playing on in this game. What they. They must have won every game by a billion, right?

[PFT Commenter]

I want to know what their stats were.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What was their. I know they didn't lose a game, but how is this even.

[PFT Commenter]

Who is Batman and who is Robin on that team?

[Big Cat]

Like, could you imagine? I don't even know what they. Where is Mont Verde?

[PFT Commenter]

Montver, Day? New York, Green Mountain.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to say New York feels like a New York. Where is it? It's a New York or it's like a dmv.

[Hank]

I thought it was like Maryland.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Maryland.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it Maryland?

[Big Cat]

Is it a. Is it a real School. Is it a real school or is it a, like, AI Academy or whatever the fuck it's called?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I think it's. I think it's real, but it's. It's basketball focused.

[Hank]

Florida.

[Big Cat]

Florida. So I think it's maybe not a real. Is it a real school or is it. Everyone just moves to Florida to be awesome at basketball. Do they? It's definitely not a public school. No. Yeah, prep school. So imagine being on, like, playing prep basketball and being like, a five, eight kid, and then you just show up and it's Derek Queen and Cooper Flag. Yeah, my.

[PFT Commenter]

So they're 33 and. Oh, they 100.

[Hank]

828. Their first game of the year.

[Big Cat]

Like. Like poor South Lake. That's brutal.

[PFT Commenter]

Look up the. Look up the stats for that game.

[Big Cat]

Also, find us the championship game, because I'm curious. I'm curious to see how bad they won. So the championship game, they won 79. 63. So they didn't. They didn't play it. Did they play any close games? Do they have a single game? That was close. What a wagon of a team. It's crazy. Yes. So Robert Wright, Cooper Flag. Derek Queen, Liam McNeely plays at UConn. They have everyone. Everyone was good.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so Oak Newell.

[Big Cat]

They all are good.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that Oak Ridge? They only beat 78. 72.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wow. Tough game.

[Hank]

Prolific Prep. It looks like twice they. They had close games with them. 78, 72, and then 76.

[Big Cat]

71.

[PFT Commenter]

Prolific prep. That does sound like a fake school. That sounds like Bishop. Whatever.

[Big Cat]

Could you imagine being, like, honestly playing, playing against them? That would suck so bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Memes has his hand raised. Yes, memes.

[Big Cat]

The 2020 Mount Vert roster is, like, one of the greatest rosters of all time. Oh, Max, pull up. But it's like, Cade Cunningham, Scotty Barnes.

[Memes]

I'm still taking Moses. 16, Chino Hills, Nemhard.

[Big Cat]

Oh, they had, like, five NBA players. So it's not a real school. No, they just get everyone to come. Yeah. Cade Cunningham, Moses Moody, Ryan Nemhardt, Scotty Barnes. Future faces league. Damn.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, who do you got?

[Memes]

2016. Chino Hills.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's on that team?

[Memes]

The balls.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, point. Hank over memes.

[Big Cat]

Hank. That would suck so much to have to go play.

[PFT Commenter]

Just put on your head memes.

[Big Cat]

What do you even do? What do you. What do you do if you're a junior or sophomore in prep school, Florida, and you're, let's say five, ten. You haven't hit your growth spurt yet, and you have to D up Cooper Flag.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I would fake an injury.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If Titus did say that, that would be a diarrhea game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I would. I would. It wouldn't be fake diarrhea.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

But mine wouldn't be fake. Like, I would see that on the. On the calendar. And then two days before, I would drink expired milk.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. But this graphic was. This is the Washington Redskins graphic of the tournament. Yeah, I saw it every single game.

[PFT Commenter]

It's everywhere.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is everywhere. But Duke is awesome. I don't really know what. Do you guys have any thoughts on Baylor? Baylor boys, Wright was electric.

[PFT Commenter]

He was fun to watch. Edgecomb, great physical guy.

[Big Cat]

Edgecomb's gonna be in the NBA.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Jeremy Roach should have stayed. I don't know why he left.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he left. He got pushed out.

[PFT Commenter]

He left because he thought he was getting pushed out. And then he wanted to start, and then he went to Baylor and then Wright showed up, and then he kind of got edged out there. Tough break. I like Roach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What are you looking up now? Pacific Prep.

[Hank]

I'm looking at, like, who's good on the. The team that played them close last year, and they have this guy, the 7 million guy for BYU.

[Memes]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

That game probably made him $7 million.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Played them tight. I got to watch some tape on this team. Probably so sick. I wish we had Bosco here. He probably could have told us every. Every game. Watched them all. All right. Oregon, Arizona. That was a fun game. Caleb love was nuclear. 5 for 7 from 3. 29 points. I. So I don't know where you stand on this, but, like, obviously conference realignment sucks, but it was very cool to see an old school rivalry in that kind of setting early in the tournament, which normally wouldn't have been able to happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. So when. When those two teams play each other, even though they're in different conferences right now, in my mind, it just throw all that out. It's a Pac 12 game.

[Big Cat]

We had a. A moment on Sunday night where we had Pac 12 after dark back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Bill Walton was watching that game from heaven, smiling.

[PFT Commenter]

And I think Arizona moves on because they won that Pac 12 game. I think now it' ACC Pack 12.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's Duke in Arizona.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Duke in Arizona, which is. They played in the national title.

[PFT Commenter]

Love was on that team.

[Big Cat]

Love was on Duke. Yeah. Or no, on unc.

[PFT Commenter]

Unc.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Unc. No, I'm saying Duke in Arizona played in the national title way back in. Back in the day when it was 99.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Miles Simon. But yeah, this was an awesome game to watch.

[PFT Commenter]

It was fun. Oregon just, they got, they got outworked on the glass a little bit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They fought hard.

[PFT Commenter]

Couple bounces didn't go their way. Those two missed free throws and then the ball going out of bounds took the possession away. That was, that felt like that was the end.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Dana Altman, very good coach. He's in that, the chart. I, I, I brought up earlier for Tom Izzo. The chart is Tom Izzo, God of March. He's his own tier. And then there's the trust them blindly tier. And it's Cal Hurley, Dana Altman, Rick Patino and Chris Beard. They all have significant wins over expected average.

[PFT Commenter]

What'd you think about the Ducks unis, the Fighting Ducks? I like, I liked them like the Fighting popped.

[Big Cat]

They popped.

[PFT Commenter]

It was some, a little bit different.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'm happy we had a competitive game to finish off the weekend because it did feel like we were missing something and I wish we had had. I here's the take. I think that you should get to follow up three once.

[PFT Commenter]

So I was thinking about this because I don't like, I don't like it as a viewer. The strategy is actually great. It's very good strategy and you should do it as a coach, but as a viewer, when you get the ball and you're down 3, like everyone has that anticipation of they can make a shot and tie the game. We take it away. It kind of sucks. I just don't know how they'd be able to change that rule without also changing the rule of if you're losing, fouling intentionally.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, like, do you, how many of those do you get? Because it's the same, it's the same strategy. It's just, it's no fun when the rabbit's got the gun.

[Big Cat]

What, what about if you, you can follow up three once the second time they get three, three shots. But you probably wouldn't want to do it.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they should just be more, more lenient with. Is it a shooting motion?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I just, it just, it does rob. It is smart strategy, but it robs us of, of big time moments where you just like to see it be played out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So I, I don't know. Like, one time would be fun where you, then it's strategy of when do we use it. You know, you get it one time.

[PFT Commenter]

An intentional foul on your three.

[Big Cat]

Exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

Up three in the last.

[Big Cat]

You get one chance in the last.

[PFT Commenter]

Minute of the game. Yeah, I'm down with that.

[Big Cat]

I also in because just dumb ideas as Your brain slowly melts into basketball. It'd be kind of fun to do one game where you shoot to your miss on free throw line.

[PFT Commenter]

You just wouldn't foul.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right. But imagine I also, like, team went on like a 200 run because the guy just got hot on the free throw.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I loved what Arizona did at the end when they would put what's his name, Delorso in. Yeah, the skinny kid. It's like, here's our foul shooter. And then every single time, they just schemed him open. That was his only purpose, really.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

At the end, they schemed him open off the inbounds play, and. And Oregon had no choice but to foul the one guy they didn't want to foul.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Byu. Wisconsin. This game sucked for me. Well, let me say this. BYU was awesome. They hit every three. They're really good. Saunders, I hate that guy, but he's so good at basketball. I also. I had. I was going into this game, I was like this. I thought it was a 50, 50 game just because I know how good BYU is. And it was like, whichever team makes their threes. And then when BYU came out in the Duke uniforms, that didn't help. And also was like a home, home crowd for byu. But, yeah, altitude. It sucked. It sucked. I. And I'll say this. Wisconsin fought their balls off. In past years, they have just gotten punched in the mouth and died. And they actually.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, something got hit the balls and came back to life.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I wish Tanjay had shot a three there at the end. I wish they'd drawn something up. They kind of just like, hey, you're. I mean, he was incredible, but I wish that we had had one prayer of a three. And it sucked. And then I did the fake bitcoin tweet saying my phone got hacked, and then Twitter locked me out for 16 hours. So that was kind of funny.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a boy who cried wolf.

[Big Cat]

It was.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, you've done the fake hack tweet probably 20 times, and every time Big Cat does this tweet, he doesn't think about the people around him that. That get the. They get the collateral damage. We have people hitting all of us up, being like, hey, just so you guys know, Big Cat's account got hacked. But it's a very funny tweet, and it's a. It's a good strategy. This time it caught up to you, so you can get back in. Until when?

[Big Cat]

I got it back in halftime of Florida UConn today. So I. I did it we were live streaming. I was like, oh, man. I got hacked again. And then we finished the stream, and I'm going home, and I get home and I pull up Twitter and it just says it. Like, I. It's just the blank icons. Like, yeah, do you want to create a Twitter account?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was like, what the fuck?

[PFT Commenter]

X?

[Big Cat]

And then X, the everything app. And. And I texted our social guys, like, I think I'm out. I think I got booted. I think X deleted my bitcoin tweet.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good.

[Big Cat]

So. And then I had to send them. I had to fill out a report, and my report was. Was my exact phrasing. It was just very funny that it actually ended up being okay because I just went to sleep. Instead of just mindlessly scrolling Twitter and getting more and more upset about Wisconsin losing, I had to write. So it was the help center description of the problem. I said I did a fake tweet about being hacked as a bit because the badgers lost in the tournament. And I was sad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The best is when you. When you do those tweets. Sometimes I get texts from people, mutual friends of ours.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, people that know Big Cat and know me. But I get a text saying, hey, just so you know, can you tell Big Cat his account got hacked? And I'm like. Like, you could just, like, his phone didn't get hacked.

[Big Cat]

Well, it might.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe you can text that.

[Big Cat]

I. Our social guys always text me. Like, they finally figured it out. But for the longest time, they'd be like, hey, I think you just got hacked. Yeah. And I'll get a bunch of messages too, being like, dude, you got hacked.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think.

[Big Cat]

I think I. I'm not retiring it, but now I guess I have to alert X beforehand, being like, hey, I got an important game, and if things go wrong, they always do. I will be doing this tweet so I don't have to be online for a little bit.

[PFT Commenter]

I wonder if somebody actually come back.

[Memes]

To PS5s and not the bitcoin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Bitcoin was what did me. Maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

And also, I think there's.

[Big Cat]

I'm trying to change it up.

[PFT Commenter]

There's probably a good chance that someone started a coin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Based off that tweet. Like, someone who's really in on the bit. I don't know what you would call.

[Big Cat]

Well, I made up.

[PFT Commenter]

If it was a bit and they wanted to start a coin after it.

[Big Cat]

I. I made a. I made up the whole number.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I just typed in random things, so. But, yeah, the game Sucked. Here's the thing. I like it. The worst part about the tournament, and this is now more so because of the Transporter nil. I loved watching this Badger team. They were so much fun. I watched every game. I loved watching them play. I love Tanjay. Steven Crowell's been at Wisconsin forever. Max. Like, all these guys. And that's the part. It's weirder than pro sports where pro sports, you're like, damn, my team lost. This fucking sucks. But next year we'll be, we'll be back and we got the same team in college sports. It's, it's, it's like a more sentimental of. I really just wanted to see Tanjay play another game for the Badgers, and I don't get to do that. So it's, it's a different type of sadness. That's not. I don't know. I'm not expressing it well. I was bummed, but BYU played better, so I can't really say anything.

[PFT Commenter]

No, get it. That it's like a small era of your life is over.

[Big Cat]

Right. I'll never get to see John Tanjay play for. Yeah. Badgers again.

[PFT Commenter]

We live our lives in, in specific areas. If you're a fan of a pro team. Those errors, the window is large.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're a college team, it's like you have to, you have to do something with these guys and, and it.

[Big Cat]

Just gets ripped from you so suddenly that it just sucks. It just. I, I just wanted to, I wanted to watch him play another game. I wanted to see. I think they were. They had a very good year. I think they were a dangerous team. They got a shitty draw in having to play six games in ten days in altitude. But that's just how it works sometimes.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you think about the ejection for the nutshot? Because the nutshot, I think that's against the Mormon code of conduct. I think it's actually very, very against it.

[Big Cat]

I said when watching the game, I don't. I think the ref should ref BYU based on Mormon laws. If they swear, they should be ejected.

[PFT Commenter]

If you touch another man's penis as a Mormon, you are kicked out of the church.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I, It's. He did, like, drive his elbow into his nuts. I don't know. I, they, they call that a flagrant all the time in, in college basketball. Like, if you hit someone in the head or you hit someone under, below the waist, you get kicked out. It sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

It was Baldo lie, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But, yeah, the Game sucked. And you really. You really can't do the two. For one thing that they fucked up at the end of the first half. That was so boneheaded. And I also like, when it really comes down to it, this entire season, you can't lose to Penn State the last game of the season at home, because if you don't lose to Penn State, you probably get the three in Milwaukee and you don't have to play a really good BYU team that probably should have been higher than a 6 seed so screwed ourselves. But, yeah, I'm bummed. It sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not a math guy, but I. I get frustrated when I watch games when coaches screw up the two for one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

At the end of a game, it happens a lot.

[Big Cat]

Well, what happened in this game, especially in the first half, was BYU plays at a breakneck pace, and we tried to match that pace. And you just can't play as fast as. There's very few teams that can play as fast as BYU plays. So if you try to do that with them, you're going to just have these boneheaded moments where you have 12 seconds left in the. In the first half. You take a two and then they come down and hit. Hit a three.

[PFT Commenter]

So also, I memes, I think I've become a BYU lever.

[Big Cat]

No, really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Because they're so fun to watch. They don't miss.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I'm rooting for him against Bama for obvious reasons.

[PFT Commenter]

It's going to be a great game because both those teams love to run, so I'm pumped to watch that one. But, yeah, Memes was right. Point memes.

[Big Cat]

BYU lever memes. Did you get all the tweets off that you wanted to get off? Yeah, I got them all off. I was rooting for you, though. Oh, thanks. I appreciate that.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you leave it. No, you weren't. Zero percent.

[Big Cat]

I root for all your teams to make to the championship and lose. Okay, that's fair.

[Hank]

I believe that on byu.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I took a money line, so you weren't rooting for me. So that's a lie. I didn't expect you to root for me. No, I was rooting for you.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you weren't.

[Big Cat]

No, you weren't. You don't get credit. You. You said you were BYU lever. You get credit for being right about that. You bet on byu, you get credit for being right about that. You don't also get credit for saying I was rooting for you, too. No, no. But I like you. And I like you, too. See, you can't have all of them. You were right about the game. You don't also be like, yeah, I was rooting for you, man. Sucked.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a. It was a fun comeback, though.

[Big Cat]

It was an awesome comeback. I just fucking wish they had. They had completed it. Yeah. Byu. What is. Whose line is It Anyway? Let me look at that real quick.

[PFT Commenter]

I think we said it was, what, three and a half?

[Big Cat]

No, no, the total.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, total 185.

[Big Cat]

No, that'll be way too high.

[PFT Commenter]

Meme just held up a five.

[Big Cat]

That was a seven.

[PFT Commenter]

One seven. Oh, that was a seven. Got it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. 174.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, they're gonna be simulating a gun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Probably take that over, like, 74 and a half. But then BYU, sometimes they don't make their threes. They were making all their threes. There's. They're good, though. I. Saunders. I hate that guy. I really do, because he's so good and his face pisses me off, but he's really good. Smooth. All right. Last one was the worst game of the weekend, I would say. Bama. St. Mary's yeah, it was gross.

[PFT Commenter]

It was gross. Just. Neither team could make a shot. Ugly turnovers. It was bad.

[Big Cat]

St. Mary's just.

[PFT Commenter]

They couldn't make a layup.

[Big Cat]

They're not good. I mean, they're good in their conference, and they beat Gonzaga in conference play, and then they get into the tournament and you have to play so perfect when you play that slow. And they're just. They couldn't. Did they hit a single three?

[PFT Commenter]

I think they hit one at the end.

[Hank]

I think they had two. They had two.

[PFT Commenter]

They had two. I know they. They broke the seal at the end, but they've been on. They've had these games before where they just don't make three pointers and they. If you're not going to make threes, you at least have to make all your layups when you get to the hoop. And they were not making.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, and I'm. I wasn't impressed with Bama this weekend. Now, Robert Morris gave him a fight, and St. Mary's if they could just hit a shot, would have been in that game like that. We were watching that game saying the entire time, Bama should be up by, like, 25 because St. Mary's was playing so bad, and they didn't pull away. I mean, they were up 10 for the majority of the game, but they should have just stomped them.

[Hank]

That was. That was one of my takes. That was the worst college basketball game I think I've ever seen.

[Big Cat]

It was painful.

[Hank]

It was so bad. Like, boring and bad to watch.

[Big Cat]

It was just St. Mary's missed shot and then a 50, 50 chance Bama would hit a shot or turn the ball over, and that was it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Alabama is 1 in 3 this year when they score fewer than 80 points. And St. Mary's had enough looks where they should have. They should have scored some points against them. It was not a good defensive performance from Alabama, and they just. It was so frustrating. They were getting wide open looks. They were getting wide open layups. Just couldn't make a single one of them.

[Big Cat]

Max, are you worried at all about Bama going to the final four?

[Hank]

Yeah. I mean, it's only two games away, but I think it's. It's not an easy path.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, because Max would have to road trip down to San Antonio and I would have to go to the pumpkin.

[Hank]

St. Mary's is the worst team ever. Worst team I've ever watched. And they went over.

[Big Cat]

They.

[Hank]

They went over 16 from three two games ago. Like, how is this team a fucking seventh seed? They sucked.

[Memes]

Duke is what, so, like, infinitely better. The only chance Bama has is Caleb Love. You know Caleb Love. Black magic.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Arizona beats him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't even have. You're not even giving Bama chance. Duke.

[Memes]

God.

[Big Cat]

Someone else has to do it before that. Yeah, yeah. That would be a problem if 2 cup ounced just for the Bama problem. But yeah, I'm. I. They're. I don't understand how Mark Sears was so good last year, and I just feel like he's lost his touch, like, around the rim shooting threes.

[Hank]

They. Another take. They tried too many alley oops. Every single time down the. Down the court, they just try and alley oop. Yeah, like, there's got. I get it. It's. It's. If you run it well, it's a. It's an efficient play.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but just.

[Hank]

Just play some basketball. Stop trying to do an alley of every single possession.

[PFT Commenter]

They do score a lot of points.

[Hank]

Yeah, they do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They turn the ball counterpoint, take another point away from.

[Hank]

All right. Too many. I'm only getting points taken away.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a counterpoint.

[Big Cat]

I mean.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, Max running too many alley oops. I guess that's a fair take, but is the alternative missing layups? Alley was a pretty high percentage shot.

[Hank]

Yeah, but they don't always convert on the alley oop.

[Big Cat]

That's true.

[Hank]

Sometimes they turn the ball over trying to do. Trying to alley oops.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you think the record for most alley Oops. In a game is Florida golf city.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Dunk city. We should be able to bet on that. That should be a line.

[Big Cat]

Has to be dunk city. Okay, well one last break and then we'll do the Midwest and then we'll do big picture stuff. And who's back.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Memes]

Yeah, just get ahead, stay ahead. We got it all. Expert assist.

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Okay. Midwest. Houston. Gonzaga. Gonzaga's nine straight sweet 16 stops at nine. LJ Cryer was awesome. Houston. I Mean, kind of.

[PFT Commenter]

Houston tried to give it away at the end.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they got, kept it. They fought all the way to the end, but Houston was just better. And Kelvin Sampson was like, he was sucking Mark Few off after he was talking about how incredible he was. There's no one else that he, he has that respect.

[PFT Commenter]

He is in love with Gonzaga because he was correcting reporters pronunciation. I know Gonzaga earlier in the week. He had, yeah, he was like very. He was a Gonzaga defender. Yeah. I gotta be honest with this game. I was focused on the Tennessee game. I didn't, I, I, I kept one eye on the score at the end of it, and I saw Gonzaga just fighting their way back into it in a game that Houston probably should have won by 10 to 15 points. But I, I'm not worried about Houston.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to say this about Houston. I want Houston fans to chime in. I feel like Houston, they're, they're the regular Houston. They can shoot better than, you know, Houston a few years ago and they could tell me if I'm way off. But Houston elbow three is always, is always money. That's where they hit all their threes. I don't know why, what it is, but I just feel like every time I watch a Houston game, it's, it's right there. They don't hit like a ton of corner threes. They don't hit a bunch at the top of the arc. That, that spot. They just, if one of their guys catches the ball in rhythm there, it's always going in and you're like, holy shit, Houston can shoot.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, this is interesting stat. Alabama is one of four programs to make it to the Sweet 16, and for the last five seasons, Houston, Gonzaga was on that list. No longer. Can you name the other one?

[Big Cat]

Four out of last five.

[PFT Commenter]

Four out of the last five.

[Big Cat]

Are they. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Oregon was on that list or no Oregon?

[PFT Commenter]

No. Well, I'm talking about right as of right now.

[Big Cat]

As of right now, they've been four of last five. Zorgon. Definitely.

[Memes]

Baylor.

[PFT Commenter]

Nope. Baylor lost.

[Big Cat]

Is it a Power 5 school?

[PFT Commenter]

It is. We just talked about it. It's not Texas Tech.

[Big Cat]

It's not Texas Tech. It's not byu.

[Memes]

Auburn. Florida.

[Big Cat]

It's not Auburn. Arizona.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Memes]

Byu.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Memes]

Bama.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Memes]

Michigan State.

[PFT Commenter]

We are. Well, Obama is one. We already said that, though.

[Hank]

St. Mary's no.

[Big Cat]

St. Mary's never goes.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Memes]

Arkansas.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Must.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a mustat.

[Big Cat]

There's a mustat.

[Memes]

I was right there.

[Big Cat]

That was good. Podcast we're just reading the bracket. We're gonna get it. Yeah. Houston's very good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This is why I'm very excited for these Sweet 16, Elite 8 and Final 4, because all these 1 seeds are so good. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I'm not worried about Houston. The fact that they let Gonzaga back into.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's tough to close out in March.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And Saga was a very good team, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What they did to Georgia was Georgia Unspeakable. Yeah. Yeah. Literally unspeakable. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We should. We should not speak of Georgia.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Purdue versus McNeese. This was the classic early Saturday game. Upstart, plucky, underdog. And you're like, oh, yeah. That's why Purdue's Purdue and McNees is McNeese.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The manager from McNeese. People were having a conversation about him. Him. People got.

[Big Cat]

Why did they show them?

[PFT Commenter]

People got sick of him. And I don't blame him. I blame. I blame just society and the Internet.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And Nil, because you have to blame Nil. But it's. This is a story that I think would have been a blip that people would have loved if it was 10, 15, 20 years ago.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

The fact that it's happening right now, we hate everything. You give us one week of finding out things and reading news stories about one guy. Guy, we're going to start to hate that one guy.

[Big Cat]

I also have a theory about it. A side note. I didn't love that he wasn't the one who went and got the jersey.

[PFT Commenter]

That also was a problem. It's like that. That is your day job.

[Big Cat]

He got a little. Little Hollywood wasn't going to get. There was a. There's a jersey ripped early in the game for McNeese.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know if you heard, I don't get jerseys.

[Big Cat]

I don't care. I don't clean those jerseys anymore. Amir Khan aura going to NC State with Will Wade, which is kind of funny.

[PFT Commenter]

I do like.

[Big Cat]

I like that transfer portal. I think he's, like, been. He's like an assistant to the coach now. So it's not just student manager.

[Memes]

He's getting six figures in Nil.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He's getting crazy. So that's part of why people are hate on it, which is they hate on anyone who gets money. It was the worst tournament for him to have this storyline because we didn't have a goalkee. We didn't have a crazy upset. Everyone complained about no upsets in the first two days. And then on Saturday morning, we woke up up and the only storyline was a student manager. I think that's why people got very upset.

[PFT Commenter]

It was, it was Sister Gene in a tournament with no other corrections to pay attention.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Sister Gene was attached to a team that in there was chaos everywhere. And you know, Loyal hit a buzzer beater against Miami, all this stuff. McNees just beat the out of Clemson and then got the beaten out of him by Purdue.

[PFT Commenter]

Now if they go into the Final Four, I think it would have swung back like, this guy is the shit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because there would have been enough time where people like, dude, why are we hitting on this kid? Yeah, but yeah, he had, he had the worst, worst possible tournament setting to have because really he got more time on camera than any other moment.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Do you think.

[Big Cat]

And I think people are just frustrated about the tournament. They're like, fuck this kid.

[PFT Commenter]

Was he having conversations with NC State during this run?

[Big Cat]

Probably. Probably. Good for McNeese. Purdue. By the way, Matt Painter, has he gone back to underrated now that he.

[PFT Commenter]

Doesn'T have a just behemoth in the middle?

[Big Cat]

No, I'm just saying like he. So obviously the Sweet 16 loss and then he lost, what was it to North Texas or something a few years ago there was that stat where he lost like a 12 seed, a 13 seed, 14 all the way up to 16. Matt Painter has been to the Sweet 16 six out of last eight tournaments. He's been to a final Four, he's been to the national championship. He, he had a team that a lot of, you know, parts that he had to fit together this year still were very, very good. They're in the Sweet 16 again. He's won five Big Ten titles. I think Matt Painter's now underrated. That was my say something nice about Purdue minute. I think he's an underrated coach because year in, a year out, he just consistently has Purdue.

[PFT Commenter]

Very good counterpoint. They beat High point.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then doesn't matter, McNeese.

[Big Cat]

Doesn't matter. You play who you play in the tournament. Sometimes the tournament breaks your ways. Sometimes they make you play 6 out of 10 games in altitude against BYU.

[PFT Commenter]

I am going to wait and see what they do against Houston and then I will make my judgment. He's either going to be overrated or underrated.

[Big Cat]

I'm a big believer in enjoying the success along the trip because there's only going to be one winner anyway. And getting to a sweet 16, getting that second weekend is a success. Like that's a, that's a check mark in my mind when it Comes to coaching and tournaments. I think Matt Painter, like the consistent coach, the consistently great coaches get to the sweet 16 like every other year or six out of eight years. So I think he's underrated and he hasn't won the big one. I get it. But it's hard to do. There's a lot of really good coaches that didn't win the big one. So yeah, my. Say something nice about Purdue. They will lose to Houston.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they will.

[Big Cat]

They will lose Houston. But I.

[PFT Commenter]

The. They got a good matchup too because Clemson almost beat McNe. I know it was close at the very, very end, but they also started the game like 0 for 40.

[Big Cat]

They scored 13 points in the first half. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Bad, bad start from Clemson. Yeah, I'm. I'm not willing to say he's overrated or underrated just yet.

[Big Cat]

I think he's exactly. Properly rated.

[PFT Commenter]

Properly rated until if he loses to Houston. Then.

[Big Cat]

Overrated then overrated. Yeah. Okay. Kentucky, Illinois. This was just Illinois season in a nutshell. They shot 28% from three. That's it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's it.

[Big Cat]

That's it. You basically Illinois should like, they should just. Their season essentially is like, tell me what they're going to shoot from three. Okay. Win or loss. And that's it.

[PFT Commenter]

And somehow like Kentucky is now like a feel good story.

[Big Cat]

Mark Pope. Yeah, people shit on the hire. It was not their first candidate. Mark Pope has him in the Sweet 16. Something Cal hadn't done since 2019. I know it's funny that Cal's also in the sweet 16, but yeah, they're good. Kobe Braya is awesome. Amari Williams gets every rebound. He's a stud. And now they get to go round three against Tennessee. Unfortunately, our college basketball expert Mark Titus said that. Didn't he say Tennessee beat them twice?

[PFT Commenter]

He did say that. Tennessee beat Kentucky twice.

[Big Cat]

And Kentucky the opposite happened twice. Yeah. So now hard to beat a team three times.

[PFT Commenter]

Hard to beat a team three times. And I know that a lot of. A lot of Tennessee fans were looking at the bracket before this whole thing started and they are not. They're not excited about the prospect of playing against Kentucky. No, not at all.

[Big Cat]

No. But Kentucky's fun. You're right, Mark Pope. Kentucky's somehow an underdog.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

In the conscience of America.

[PFT Commenter]

And Arkansas with Calipari also somehow an underdog.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Got underdogs everywhere.

[PFT Commenter]

And byu, where Pope came from, also an underdog. An underdog.

[Big Cat]

A lot of underdogs.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot of. A lot of guys that you can root for at these Traditional underdogs speaking.

[Big Cat]

Underdogs, all the dogs got bounced from the tournament.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No more dogs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Max is probably pumped about that.

[Big Cat]

Drake out. Gonzaga.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a dog every.

[Big Cat]

Mississippi State out. Georgia out.

[Memes]

Tennessee second.

[Big Cat]

Yukon out.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Tennessee. They have a dog.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're the Volza though, but yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Secondary Smokey is an elite dog too.

[Big Cat]

There's a lot of dogs in this tournament and they're all out. Pretty sad.

[Memes]

Bama kind of a dog how.

[Big Cat]

In what way?

[Memes]

Elephants are like friendly and elephants are dog.

[PFT Commenter]

Like minus a point for Hank.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You're also not allowed to say, I don't like dogs anymore.

[Big Cat]

That's true. You have a dog. Hank doesn't like dogs. Ah. All right, last game. Ucla, Tennessee. It's just an ass kicking. Linear and Ziegler are so good together.

[PFT Commenter]

Linear has been shooting lights out from the outside. I do love watching Ziegler play.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he's so good.

[PFT Commenter]

And I hope he's a guy that I would like to also see stick around at Tennessee for like five more years.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. He's the. He's my rule of you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

One guy, he would be perfect.

[PFT Commenter]

Him. Marquis Noel at Kansas State.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to see these guys that, that are just like undersized, elite ball handlers, great passers. They should be able to play for the school football.

[Big Cat]

Stephen Ashworth at Creighton.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

John Tanjay, Wisconsin. That would be nice. The. The big story though was Mick Cronin having a crash out after the game. Did you guys see this?

[PFT Commenter]

I did not see after the game, no.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So in the, in the press conference. So Mick Cronin's been very vocal this year about time zones, travel. He's not been happy. So because you know, UCLA having to go, they had a bad record in Eastern standard time. He just was upset about all of it. And a reporter asked this. So this is the reporter. I'll read the transcript. Reporter says, I know it's probably way too early to start thinking about. McCrone says, Then don't ask. And then the reporter says, at what point do you start looking forward rather than backwards? McCrone says, Right now, guys, it's 12:40am and our season just ended. That's it. You're going to ask me about next year. Right now my biggest concern is how bad the seats are on the allegiant flight on that terrible plane that we're going to fly home tomorrow on. Then the reporter said, the school bus. And he said the plain version of the cheese. The reporter said, hang in There. And Mick Cronin said. And is there any chance that Doug got me some hot food because I don't eat on game day. That I got something edible. Not next year. Not right now, guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. So that, that last piece was actually very important. He's just hangry. Yeah, he's just as grumpy because he hasn't had any. That's like Hank waking up on grit week and doesn't get to eat a good breakfast. That's how Mick Corona was coaching that game.

[Big Cat]

I just love a reporter saying, you know, at what point do you look forward to next year and not reminisce about this? He's like, I'm just pissed off about this plane.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And I need some food.

[Memes]

It's the same thing with Dan Hillary, though. Like, that's how you should be after.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Memes]

When you Ends, like, I like it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Absolutely. I don't want. I don't want him to be like, these were just such. Such a special group. And, you know, maybe next week we'll start looking towards the future, but right now, I'm just trying to save. No, he's got to get on a fucking Allegianaire flight. He's pissed off.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he really flying a Legion?

[Big Cat]

It must be.

[PFT Commenter]

That's tough. Times are tough.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Any other notes?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Kentucky, Tennessee, 7:40 on Friday.

[Big Cat]

Love it.

[PFT Commenter]

That game is going to be awesome.

[Big Cat]

That game's.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm very excited about that.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I feel like that's the highest rated game of the weekend.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right. I had a couple other. Just random notes from the entire tournament. Did you guys see Liberty's head coach's hair?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, I did.

[Big Cat]

That was awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

It was.

[Big Cat]

That guy thought he was fooling everyone. That guy probably was a little pissed that he made it to the tournament.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, no, he was like, no, I think he went out and he got that for the tournament.

[Big Cat]

You think he got it for the tournament?

[PFT Commenter]

This is my national television hair.

[Big Cat]

Richie McKay, he just has spray painted the male pattern baldness away.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it looks great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but he. That he was. He was, you know, flying under the radar. And then he gets. He gets into the tournament. Everyone's like, what is this hair, dude? What are you trying to do?

[PFT Commenter]

There's that old commercial from the 80s where it was for the hairspray. And it would be like, look, this spray covers up all the baldness. And then guys would spray. Their hair would magically grow. Yeah, that's what it looks like in real life.

[Big Cat]

The so we talked about TJ Altzberger. We talked about Matt Painter. We talked about Izzo. The guy who we should be talking about is Shaka Smart. So he got bounced on Friday. In his last nine NCAA tournament trips, Shaka Smart has been eliminated by a team at least three seed lines worse seven times. And at least five seeds worse. Five times bad. But he basically had the VCU run. He had five and one VCU and then he just lost everything since.

[PFT Commenter]

But he also has a 26 page binder of their culture.

[Big Cat]

True. Which we got to get our hands on.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, Shaka Smart, he had everybody thinking that he was bald. Like the Liberty coach when he shaved his head.

[Big Cat]

True.

[PFT Commenter]

Which was stolen valor. And then he decides he's going to grow his hair out. He's able to have a full head of hair. That's bad vibes.

[Big Cat]

Same with Buzz Williams. Our guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Although I bald guy.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I think Buzz did that just because of efficiency. He's like, that's one less thing that every time I wash my hair I could be watching tape.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But yeah, Shock is smart. That was not good. It was kind of stowed away because it was a Friday night loss. But yeah, he is not the tournament has not been kind to Shock Smart. Still a good coach, but not a good tournament coach right now. But he had the VCU run. And then we had the stats to back up that this has not been the best tournament. Just four games in the men's round of 64 this year finished within five points or went to OT, the lowest amount in 17 years. This also was the first time in 17 years that no 1, 2, 3 or 4 was upset in the opening round. So there's stats to back it up. But shout out to Robert Morris and Bryant for trying. Those are the two closest. Brian ended up losing by like 30.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd forgotten about Brian because it was such a blowout by the end.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And Robert Morris, they, they. There was that one. I think they were up one with the ball and they took a three. And if they had hit that three, we could have had magic. It was that what. That was the closest we felt to March Madness and we just couldn't fully capture it. But, but. Roback? Rhobac.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com I'll. I'll throw it out to everyone who we got winning all now that we're at the Sweet 16 re bracket. Duke, there's gotta be so many Perfect brackets. You guys might have to cut up.

[PFT Commenter]

There are none.

[Memes]

I'm in 730th out of 750 in the cell blue bracket, but. But no perfect brackets.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah, good.

[PFT Commenter]

I think there are two. Maybe on ESPN.

[Memes]

There was going into today or yesterday, but St. John's the one. I saw St. John's blue.

[Big Cat]

That shout out. The guy who I saw at the draftking sportsbook in the bathroom who's like, big cat. How many perfect brackets you think are left? This was on Thursday, like, maybe at 9pm I was like, I don't know, dude. He's like, 10 million. I was like, okay. He's like, what if I told you I had one of them? It's like, I'm not impressed.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty cool.

[Memes]

One of 10 million.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's not impressive. It's Thursday and there's been no upsets.

[PFT Commenter]

To me, When I look at them, every bracket's perfect.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. I think it's just gonna be Duke.

[Memes]

Duke.

[Big Cat]

I think Duke's gonna win it all.

[PFT Commenter]

Duke, Michigan State. Duke.

[Big Cat]

That would be a fun matchup. Yeah. If it's Duke, Michigan State. They should let Coach K coach that.

[PFT Commenter]

Just. Yeah. Throwback.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the old guys.

[PFT Commenter]

He'll be there, right?

[Big Cat]

Oh, for sure. Max, who you got winning all?

[Hank]

I picked Tennessee before, so I'll stick with Tennessee.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I think it's.

[PFT Commenter]

I respect that.

[Hank]

I feel like that's the team that has the best shot that no one's talking about.

[Big Cat]

I'd agree with that.

[Hank]

That's why. That's why I picked them.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, they'd have to get through Kentucky, possibly Houston and then possibly Duke.

[Hank]

Yeah. No, it's tough, tough draw, but gotta be good teams.

[Big Cat]

Gotta be. Gotta be good teams to win the tournament. That's a fact. All right. Any other thoughts from the tournament? We'll do who's back. If not. It's been fun. I, I'm. I, I. I just don't want to wake up tomorrow morning. It's gonna suck not having basketball.

[PFT Commenter]

It's been a great four days.

[Memes]

It's been morning.

[Big Cat]

It's been a very fun four days. Very fun four days. I know it's not been the best tournament, but I still love it because someday you're gonna be dead and there'll be no tournament. Think about that. How much will that suck?

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty bad.

[Big Cat]

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[Memes]

I preferred it actually.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Get all the shit out.

[Memes]

You don't feel bad staying inside when it's snowing?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Hank. Who's back the week?

[Memes]

I have a few. One of them is. Is literally right up Pft's alley. So I'll. I'll save it for him and if he doesn't say it, we can come back to him.

[PFT Commenter]

I appreciate that, Hank. I think I know what it is.

[Memes]

So my other one is Wyatt Hendrickson, Oklahoma State wrestler.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Memes]

This was probably the most madness I felt until Sunday night. This was Saturday night, NCAA wrestling. He was down a point to. What's his name? Gable Stevenson.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's the real. Who's back is Gable Stevenson?

[Memes]

Olympian, WWE wrestler. Never lost in college.

[Big Cat]

Tried out for the.

[Memes]

Somehow left college, signed with wwe, won the Olympics, came back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If you have two jobs after you leave college, I don't know how you go back one. Okay, I'll look past that. But he. He tried out for the NFL and he was in. He signed with wwe and then he. I saw it on TV and I was like, are they replaying two years ago's wrestling tournament?

[Memes]

So he was winning with. With, what was it? A minute and a half left and Wyatt Hendrickson put him on his back, got two points. Don't know how wrestling works. Wrestling scoring works, but one of the coolest scenes to watch live. We were watching live in the cave and it was just an electric moment. All time upset. Again. I don't. Wrestling people will tell you it's like the biggest upset of all time.

[Big Cat]

KB said that it was one of the most shocking wrestling moments.

[Memes]

KB also went to this. Talk about this cuz this.

[PFT Commenter]

And he left early. He. He goes to the NCAA Wrestling National Championships. Gabe Stevenson is wrestling. It's an iconic moment. Maybe the best collegiate wrestler of all time. And then he leaves, and in his Uber ride home, he finds out that he got upset at the last second.

[Memes]

That's as bad as it gets.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He said KB is a bad sports town.

[Big Cat]

It was bad. I text him being like, how crazy is this? He's like, I'm in an Uber. I want to catch kill myself. Oh, yeah, not good.

[Memes]

Brutal.

[Big Cat]

Not good. But I want to talk to him about it, too. Yeah. Yeah. So how'd this happen? It was crazy. It was very cool. All right. What other. Who's back?

[Memes]

My other one is love. We kind of talked about at the top of the show. I don't know if you're going to.

[PFT Commenter]

Use that one, Tiger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we can't talk about it.

[PFT Commenter]

He. He asked us to respect his privacy in his Twitter post.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And Instagram.

[PFT Commenter]

And Instagram.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to go multi platform.

[Big Cat]

Sorry.

[Memes]

I'll just read his caption.

[PFT Commenter]

You have to tell as many people.

[Memes]

As possible to keep this quiet out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Love is in the air and life is better with you by my side. This is a picture of him and Don Jr's ex wife.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Memes]

Who still has the last name Trump for some reason.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What's up with that?

[Memes]

Couldn't tell you.

[Big Cat]

Kids.

[PFT Commenter]

That might have been like a. A name for life type deal. Oh, if you. If you have kids. I believe she does have kids.

[Memes]

Like, if you're. If you're a woman and you're getting.

[Big Cat]

Divorced, I think it might be the.

[Memes]

First thing that's got to go is the last name.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But this.

[Memes]

Throw a hyphen in there.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't even think you throw a hype and I think you just gotta ditch it. I agree.

[Memes]

But like, if you're gonna. If you're. If you're gonna say it's for the kids, be like, I'm, you know. Smith Trump.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Woods Trump would be a powerful name, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Now if.

[Memes]

Anyway, I'll finish it. Sorry. We look forward to our journey through life together. At this time, we would appreciate privacy for all those close to our hearts.

[PFT Commenter]

So we're not going to talk about it.

[Big Cat]

So Tiger woods is dating someone related to the Trumps? No, but we're not. Well, I mean, related in the fact that she. She birthed Trump's.

[Memes]

Oh, true.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But we're not going to talk about it.

[PFT Commenter]

We're not. Because he asked us not to.

[Big Cat]

Tiger woods and Trump.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Don't talk about it, but there.

[PFT Commenter]

We don't know that they're dating. It just said that they're in love.

[Big Cat]

Oh, they could be not dating.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe they just met. Love is in the air. Now, this could be good for Tiger, because if she's got Trump grandchildren, anytime Tiger is with those kids, he gets somebody to drive him around. Right?

[Big Cat]

True.

[PFT Commenter]

Like a professional driver. So Tiger doesn't have to worry about.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Running afoul of the law.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's a good point. Very good point.

[PFT Commenter]

How do you think Charlie feels about this?

[Big Cat]

Now, Charlie, if you want to talk, your uncles are here. Not a creepy way, but we're here for you, bro.

[PFT Commenter]

Why don't just rap about anything.

[Big Cat]

I think he's happy. His dad's happy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he found love. Yeah. And you know what? Charlie's probably not even talking about either. He's probably respecting their privacy.

[PFT Commenter]

He's focused on grinding out on the golf course.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Absolutely. Yeah. Very weird. Very weird tasks for privacy. Like, for a second, I thought someone died or something.

[Memes]

Well, it's been rumored and, like, I think it's been probably, you know, talked about tabloids, gossip sites. So they probably were thinking, let's address it, but then keep it private. But that is just not how it works. Once it. Once you post about it.

[Big Cat]

Wait there. One of. One of the kids is Kai Trump, isn't she? She's like a good golfer. Yeah. Wow. And Tiger woods could be her stepdad. That's pretty.

[PFT Commenter]

He's that who stepped up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Charlie and Kai got to play a 1v1, so. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We're not going to talk about it. No, we haven't talked about it, and we won't. We'll continue to respect his wishes for privacy. But the two pictures that he put accompanying the post, the first one was pretty normal, I would say. They're just, like, standing next to each other. They look happy, I'm happy. And then the second one was in a hammock, and it looked like that picture of Willie Mays that Barry Bonds took. Remember? Where everyone was like, oh, is this Willie May's funeral? Is he dead?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what that looked like for Tiger. It looked like he was dead in a hammock laying next to her. And then you're like, who took that picture?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That was weird.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe Charlie.

[Big Cat]

Maybe Charlie or Kai.

[Hank]

They go to the same school. Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so they met in the pickup line.

[Hank]

They must have.

[Big Cat]

That's exactly what happened.

[Hank]

They both. Yeah, they both go. Charlie woods and Kai Trump both go to The Benjamin School.

[PFT Commenter]

Are they the same age?

[Big Cat]

Look up. Where's the Benjamin School? In Florida. How bad did they get beat by Cooper Flagg in Mount Verde? Probably got smoked. Oh, they probably got fucking killed by him.

[PFT Commenter]

What if. What if Charlie and the Trump granddaughter. What if love was in the air with them? Are they the same age?

[Big Cat]

I think they're both underage.

[PFT Commenter]

But what if they can date somebody?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, of course. What are you trying to say?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just saying. That'd be wild.

[Big Cat]

That would be wild. That'd be very wild.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. She's 17, he's 16.

[Big Cat]

That would be very wild. But yeah, we're gonna respect the privacy. By the way, I have a hammock take. They suck. Most overrated thing in the world.

[PFT Commenter]

That's insane. Yeah, he's thinking about getting out of hand. Getting out of hammock sucks.

[Big Cat]

It's a big guy thing.

[Hank]

No, I hate them too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Max, I knew you'd back me up.

[PFT Commenter]

Me and Hank are just. They're just kicking down a summer.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You're not taking naps.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I've taken a nap. You ever sipped an iced tea in a hammock?

[Hank]

Especially if you have your. If you have your shirt off, then like the.

[Big Cat]

Oh, they get the.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

They're so over. Like, hammocks are. Are. Are put on a pedestal is like the. The king of relaxation.

[PFT Commenter]

No, Hank's right.

[Big Cat]

Give me a day bed point.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank again.

[Big Cat]

I know it's a bit. I know it's a big guy take hammocks. I don't trust them. What do you want me to say? I get in a hammock and I. It's a problem.

[PFT Commenter]

Day beds are. It's like, hey, we're gonna put a bed in this room and it's gonna be smaller and you're not go fit on. It's not going to be as comfortable.

[Memes]

As slap an air mattress on the exact.

[Big Cat]

I'm talking about the ones outside. Like real furniture outside is awesome. That's better than a hammock.

[PFT Commenter]

Hammocks are different.

[Hank]

Way better.

[Big Cat]

Way better.

[Hank]

Way better.

[PFT Commenter]

Bad take.

[Big Cat]

You just have never been on nice furniture outside.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I've been on nice furniture outside. Hammocks are getting out of the hammock.

[Big Cat]

Getting in. There's outdoor furniture, you idiot.

[Memes]

Yeah, but it's cheap cuz it's outside.

[Big Cat]

No, it's not. I said night nice. You have not confirmed you have not been on nice furniture outside. Because.

[Memes]

Because nice furniture should not be outside.

[Hank]

But there is nice.

[Big Cat]

There is nice outdoor furniture and it's better than hammocks. No.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's not.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Getting. Getting into the hammock is. Is tough. Sometimes getting out of the hammock sucks.

[Memes]

What do you want, like a sleep number Mattress on the porch?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I just need grab.

[Big Cat]

Sure. Yeah. How is that a dick? What happens when it rains then. Then trying to get myself cocoon of rope. Yeah. I would like a. I would like a bed. Have you.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you slept on a King Max? I own that outdoor couch. Yes, I own that. I also own a hammock, and I'm on the hammock to nap. Not on that couch.

[Big Cat]

You're. Which one do you go on more?

[PFT Commenter]

The hammock. I sit on the couch. So if I'm watching tv, I go on the hammock.

[Memes]

I'm laid over just to go on the hammock.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You want to have a hammock day? I got two of them.

[Big Cat]

Them.

[Memes]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Dueling hammocks.

[Big Cat]

Do it. Max and I will be sitting like God intended on furniture.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That was a big mess. Step by. By or by Max, though, bringing up the. The couch I own.

[Big Cat]

That's a nice.

[Hank]

How about this one?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't own that one.

[Big Cat]

This one. That. That.

[PFT Commenter]

That soful looks. Yeah.

[Memes]

What happens when it rains?

[Big Cat]

It's out. Outdoor furniture again. You don't understand outdoor furniture, you morons. On.

[Memes]

That looks like a. Whatever.

[Big Cat]

You don't. You just say you don't like. Listen. Well, I knew that when I did the hammock take, it was gonna probably be me and Max versus the world, because big guys can't trust hammocks. But what we found out with the hammock take is you don't know what outdoor furniture is.

[Memes]

You're gonna submit a lot of money on furniture. You should not put it outside. That's my take.

[Big Cat]

No, that's so wrong. Stand.

[Memes]

Super rich people like you just spend a lot of money on everything.

[Big Cat]

You.

[Memes]

It doesn't make sense to put it outside.

[Big Cat]

What are you talking. There's outdoor furniture, but not like, you shouldn't spend.

[Memes]

You shouldn't break the bank on outdoor.

[Big Cat]

You don't want to sit outside.

[Memes]

I do, but it doesn't need to be like, anything crazy.

[Hank]

Listen, this is crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's what.

[Big Cat]

You're not crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's what you guys are thinking about with the outdoor furniture. You have to pick all those pillows up and take them inside and storm in, like a waterproof thing. If it's bad weather, a hammock, you just leave the hammock out there.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I still would rather sit on the. The. The really comfortable outdoor French. Hank does not lay down. Hank does not know what outdoor point is.

[Memes]

The maintenance is not worth the.

[Big Cat]

What? The comfort maintenance.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a lot of Couple pillows. No, I got to put them. I got to stack them. Sometimes the maintenance is. Is really where. Where they get you.

[Big Cat]

Hank, I don't want you ever sitting on outdoor furniture ever.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, ever See Hank? He's moving the gold.

[Big Cat]

I won't. No, I won't sit on a hammock again in my life.

[PFT Commenter]

He's talking about sitting. Sitting. We're talking about laying down.

[Big Cat]

I won't lay down on a hammock again in my life. I don't want you touching outdoor furniture.

[Memes]

I will touch up.

[Big Cat]

You don't respect it. You don't. You think it's stupid.

[Memes]

No, I love. What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

That's such. You just said it was stupid.

[Memes]

No, I think it's stupid to spend a lot of money on it.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

Okay, you spend money on dumb all the time.

[Memes]

Obviously not outdoor furniture.

[Big Cat]

You just gotta.

[Hank]

You also, one day you are going.

[Big Cat]

To buy furniture, and I'm gonna laugh in your face when you do it, because you absolutely will.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, he's got some garbage. Outdoor furniture.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And when he does. Yeah.

[Memes]

And when you do spend outdoors.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you will.

[Hank]

But like.

[Big Cat]

But you will. You will be forced to do it, and I'm gonna laugh at you.

[Hank]

Wouldn't it, like. If you like to sit outside.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Wouldn't you want it to be nice.

[Big Cat]

And comfortable if you had the choice.

[Hank]

Of nice outdoor furniture, do you think?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Or not nice outdoor furniture. You would prefer to sit on nice outdoor.

[Memes]

You guys are twisting on the argument.

[Big Cat]

Whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

No, this is it. We've separated the original argument. Hank and Correct. Hammocks are. Are a great place to lay down.

[Big Cat]

I. Again, I'll concede. That's a big guy. Take that. I knew that when I said it, it was gonna be me and Max versus the world. Hank then revealed himself to just hate outdoor furniture.

[Memes]

Okay, you did. I did not said.

[Big Cat]

What's the point of buying outdoor furniture? What's the point in buying nice outdoor furniture?

[Memes]

Ding.

[Big Cat]

Because it's nice to be able to sit on nice.

[Memes]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

And it's. It's meant to be outdoors. I think you think the outdoor furniture is. You just buy a couch that's like an indoor couch. You put it outside, and then it rains once. You're like, I've done that now.

[Memes]

This is insane.

[Big Cat]

Now it's what is your point with.

[PFT Commenter]

The truly elite thing to do is to just on a nice day, take your indoor television and then pick it up and walk it outside and put it down. Be like, I'm gonna watch sports outside today.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I like that.

[Hank]

Look at this thing.

[Big Cat]

I mean, that's incredible.

[Hank]

You kidding me? You'd rather just hammock this thing?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You've also definitely been on vacation and been on like super nice outdoor furniture and had a great time probably. Or a beach. I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like I'm.

[Memes]

It's like outdoor furniture is just like, it's.

[Big Cat]

Have you ever been in a cabana in a beach? Like, there's nice furniture, but that's like.

[PFT Commenter]

On a vacation at a nice place. Most people, if they're going to have something outside, a hammock is way more accessible than that thing. Probably costs like 30,000.

[Big Cat]

I think there's a lot of the. Like, like nice. No, that one's not that expensive. That one's stupid. All right. Do you have any other who's backs? No. Okay. Pfd.

[PFT Commenter]

Do the one that you thought I was gonna do, Del. Yeah, that was the one.

[Big Cat]

What is it?

[PFT Commenter]

Deli.

[Big Cat]

Deli. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So he. He played in the nbl. He was named the finals mvp, which is great. Good for Deli. Despite the fact that his. His team, Melbourne United lost the game and the title to the Illawarra Hawks. So Deli at the podium, he got the trophy for mvp, which by the way is a very funny thing to do to give the MVP to somebody on the losing team. Yeah, like never happens anymore. But he said that the guard for the Hawks will. Dave O. Hickey was more deserving of the award. So Deli walked off the stage with the MVP trophy and gave it to Hick Sticky.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

That's so Deli.

[Big Cat]

That's so.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Davo.

[PFT Commenter]

I also love the fact that Delhi is still playing at a high enough level to be the. The finals mvp.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Melbourne.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Pretty damn cool.

[PFT Commenter]

You take it, Davo.

[Big Cat]

Is that the. That's not the New Zealand Breakers.

[PFT Commenter]

Same league, nbl.

[Big Cat]

We didn't make it.

[Memes]

No. I don't know. Clearly not. Didn't make the championship.

[PFT Commenter]

We're football basketball team.

[Memes]

We had that one. We had that one draft pick. That was horrible.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Big Cat]

Is he still in the league?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think so.

[Big Cat]

Maybe he might be. Yeah. That was supposed to be big time. I'm either in one point, two point scheme.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, for who?

[Big Cat]

The Heat. Last year.

[Hank]

Last Year.

[PFT Commenter]

Last year.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he might be on the Wizards now.

[PFT Commenter]

No way.

[Big Cat]

It looked like he had G League.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wizards. Yeah. All right. You all said, why.

[PFT Commenter]

My other who's Back of the week is Jim Morrison, maybe. Oh, he might be alive. Oh, so apparently there's a documentary. I think it's on Apple TV or. Yeah, Apple tv, that claims that he's still alive. It was done by a super fan of the Doors and of Jim Morrison. He says that he did not die in Paris in 1971. They said that he faked his own death, and there was never an autopsy done to determine the cause. And then he says, I think he lives somewhere in the Midwest right now. And this dude is, like, trying to track him down and find this guy. So Jim Morrison, the Liver King, might still be alive, which would be.

[Big Cat]

Be.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be the ultimate who's Back. Holy faking deaths. I've always wondered how many people fake their deaths and get away with it. It's got to be more. More than you think, right?

[Big Cat]

There's that one dude a few months ago, I think it was from Wisconsin, who faked his death and then just moved to, like, Lithuania and got a new wife. And then they. And then they, like, zoomed him, and he's like, yeah, I'm here.

[Memes]

Steve Jobs.

[PFT Commenter]

The McAfee guy. Epstein.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Memes]

His name. D.B. cooper.

[PFT Commenter]

Tupac. Good one. Yeah. Well, he didn't really fake his own death. They just never found him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right. My. Who's back is the national anthem. Did you guys see this? The bongo national anthem. Very funny. The. There was in the. I think it was Ducks versus Predators, and the Ducks started slow, and they asked afterwards what happened in the game, and the Ducks player was like, yeah, the national anthem kind of fucked us up. But then we found our footing, and I was like, there's no way. And then I watched the clip. Max, I DM'd it to you. It was a hell of a national anthem.

[PFT Commenter]

They played on the bongos, kind of. I've been saying for years that they need to do national anthem on the drums.

[Big Cat]

Watch this kind of. I thought it was going to be just bongos, and I totally makes sense.

[Hank]

A little bit in the first, but.

[PFT Commenter]

Once we recovered from that, we were.

[Big Cat]

Back to our game, which was good. Staff Sergeant Bruce, Gustava. Congas of the congas. I know. He's awesome. He's a beast. I think this might be the future of the national anthem.

[PFT Commenter]

This is pretty good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, you. There was a time, I think it was Chad Smith from the Chili Peppers. I think he played the national anthems. The national anthem on the drums before Lakers game.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, it's wild.

[PFT Commenter]

Look that up.

[Big Cat]

He did Hot Chili Peppers. Oh, here we go. Yeah, here it is. Oh, that kind of rocks. Yeah, I'm into that kind of squint.

[PFT Commenter]

A little bit and think that it's Will Ferrell.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm into that. Memes on Wednesday. Can you explain to us Ashton Hall?

[Memes]

Oh, I could, sure.

[Big Cat]

He's the best. Okay, we'll maybe do a explain that memes on. On Wednesday, because I would. I would like to know also Body Armor Friday. You guys want to talk severance?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, I think that should be a recurring thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Even when there's no season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just talk about it. But, yeah, I think every Friday for.

[Memes]

The next three years.

[Big Cat]

So go catch up on Severance and, yeah, we'll do our finale recap. Okay. Good show, boys. We made it. March Madness. Numbers 3, 16, 1, 6, 49, p. 44, 15, 21. What if today's the day?

[PFT Commenter]

It's hot.

[Big Cat]

It's not going to be today. Feels like 76tr.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys.