NFL Championship Sunday, Patriots Are All The Way Back and The Seahawks Win An All Timer + Who's Back Of The Week

Summary

Pardon My Take: NFL Championship Sunday Recap (January 26, 2026)

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of "Pardon My Take" is all about NFL Championship Sunday, setting the stage for Super Bowl 60. The hosts (Big Cat, PFT Commenter, Hank, Max, and Memes) break down the AFC and NFC Championship Games: the New England Patriots’ gritty win over the Denver Broncos, and the Seattle Seahawks' thrilling victory against the LA Rams. The crew revels in the return of the Patriots to the Super Bowl, celebrates (and debates) Sam Darnold’s surprising ascendance, discusses coaching news, goes deep on playoff storylines, hashes out on-show bets, and delivers their trademark comedic banter and shade along the way.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

[03:14] Fastest Two Minutes Recap

• PFT and Hank do a “Boomer” style, rapid-fire recap of both championship games, filled with wordplay and inside jokes.
• Patriots 10, Broncos 7: Defensive struggle in the Mile High snow—Drake May's running and a key fumble recovery turn the tide for New England.
  • “Drake May made them pay with his legs scoring on a six yard scamper.” — Hank [03:44]
• Seahawks 31, Rams 27: Seahawks offense blazes early, the Rams fight back, but a huge finish by Sam Darnold and Seattle stars sends them to the big game.
  • “The Seattle Seahawks are going back to the Super Bowl!” — Big Cat [07:06]

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[08:18] Patriots' AFC Championship Breakdown

• The gang discusses the snowy, defensive slog.
• Big Cat calls it “an ugly one to say the least,” praising the virtues and drawbacks of snow football and the survivalist, low-scoring affair.
• Plenty of ribbing Hank over his long-standing (and, as of now, validated) claim that the Patriots would return to a Super Bowl within five years.
• Host debates: Is Drake May a run-first QB? Is that a cause for celebration or concern?
  • “Are you really that confident for long term when you have a quarterback that’s run-first?” — Big Cat [16:42]

Notable Banter:

• PFT: "He’s been saying for years, we’re going to be back, and now he’s finally right.” [10:04]
• Big Cat (on Patriots' inevitability): “You’d have better luck rooting for the sun not to rise.” [10:15]

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[13:23] Broncos' Missed Opportunity & Coaching

• The guys dissect everything the Broncos did wrong: Stidham’s fumble, punting woes, and Sean Payton’s aggressive 4th-and-1 call.
  • “That’s just one of the all-time like, dude, just take a sack.” — PFT [15:05]
• Speculation on whether rookie Bo Nix would have made a difference.

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[19:14] The $50,000 Super Bowl Bet

• Reminder and rich revisiting of the infamous bet between PFT and Hank—if the Patriots made it to a Super Bowl within 5 years, PFT owes $50k.
• Big Cat proposes a cash cyclone/money booth to make paying Hank funnier.
• Pressure and comedy ensue over potential "double or nothing" on the Super Bowl.
  • “That’s a lot of money. I do feel like just, you know, vibes, karma. I am gonna donate some to charity. Like $10,000.” — Hank [20:22]

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[24:43] Patriots: The “Worst” Super Bowl Team Ever?

• Hosts riff over whether this Patriots team is the "worst-looking" to make a Super Bowl, or merely the "luckiest."
• Acknowledgment of “weather luck” and easy playoff path.
  • “Is this the worst team to ever make the Super Bowl?” — Big Cat [25:14]
• Hank stands his ground: “All that matters is winning the Super Bowl. You guys can talk all you want…in two weeks, we’re playing for a Super Bowl.” [27:09]

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[32:53] Seahawks' NFC Championship Analysis

• Applause for Sam Darnold’s “balls” and career redemption—calling out his journey through NFL purgatory to becoming a Super Bowl quarterback.
  • “Sam Darnold was thrown out like yesterday’s trash…All he’s done since he’s been [in Seattle] is win football games.” — Big Cat [50:59]
• Praise for Seattle's defense and resilience.
• Detailed breakdown of Tariq Woolen’s almost disastrous penalty, how the Rams could have stolen it, and why Seattle GM John Schneider deserves more acclaim.

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[56:31] Super Bowl 60 Preview

• Patriots vs. Seahawks—a rematch of Super Bowl XLIX—with both teams coming from radically different narrative positions: Seattle as the “best team all year” and the Patriots as “luckiest.”
  • “We got a great Super Bowl matchup: The best team in the NFL and the luckiest team in the NFL.” — Big Cat [65:31]

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[61:52] Biggest Losers of Championship Sunday

• The show delivers is a rapid-fire "losers" rundown:
  • Titans (since firing Vrabel), Falcons (missing out on top coaches), Devante Adams (0–5 in championship games), the Vikings (let Sam Darnold go), Russell Wilson, the Bills, Dolphins, and, for comedy’s sake, “America” for bad commercials.
• Special satirical focus on the Jets being a “QB factory” that only produces QBs who succeed elsewhere.

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[79:05] NFL Rigged? & Miscellaneous Football Storylines

• Joking about the “NFL rigged” meme after a preseason graphic featured Drake May and Sam Darnold front-and-center, now both are in the Super Bowl.
• Complaining about the new AFC/NFC Championship trophies and boring Super Bowl logos.
  • “The trophies used to be awesome—the trophy does suck ass.” — Big Cat [81:36]

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[82:36] Steelers Hire Mike McCarthy

• Breakdown of the Steelers’ controversial hiring of Mike McCarthy and fan backlash.
  • “Going from Tomlin to McCarthy is like shitting your pants and changing your shirt.” — PFT (quoting Twitter) [87:01]
• Discussion of whether this signals Aaron Rodgers might reunite with McCarthy in Pittsburgh.

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[89:44] Show Hijinks & Recurring Segments

• Fasoli Streaker Story: Patriots superfan jumps into the snow naked during celebration—“the whole world saw his grundle.” [88:07]
• Bad takes, foot-in-mouth moments (Hank’s awkward goodbye to Derrick White at D. Rose Night) [91:43]
• “Who’s Back of the Week”: Shoutouts to Blades Brown (golf), Robert Saleh (as Titans coach), the NFL “Looney Rule” (craziest head coach interviews), and Tom Brady’s $563,000 watch.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Patriots Destiny:
  “They’re just a franchise that has a horseshoe shoved up their ass.” — Big Cat [11:19]
• Drake May Skepticism:
  “If you have a quarterback that runs with the football that much, you’re exposing yourself to a lot of hits and you can get injured. So I’m just concerned, that’s all.” — Big Cat [16:53]
• On Luck vs. Skill:
  “You had great weather luck, which, again, you play when you play—you’ve had great weather luck.” — Big Cat [25:54]
• On Seattle's Redemption:
  “John Schneider…first GM to go to Super Bowls with the same franchise, two different Super Bowls with completely new rosters and new head coach.” — PFT [54:25]
• On The Money Bet:
  “I pressure you for double or nothing—if you do it, I’ll give $5,000 to charity right now, free of charge.” — PFT [21:00]
• “Is this the worst team to ever make the Super Bowl?” — Big Cat [25:14], sparking a roundtable of classic PMT clownery.
• On NFL Rigged:
  “NFL so rigged. In the preseason ‘season dreams’ graphic, right in front: Drake May and Sam Darnold. It was always there.” — PFT [79:42]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:14] Fastest Two Minutes (AFC & NFC recaps)
• [08:18] Patriots/Broncos breakdown
• [13:23] Broncos' missed opportunity, coaching, and the SNOW
• [19:14] $50k Super Bowl bet, Cash Cyclone, Double-or-Nothing
• [24:43] “Worst Super Bowl team” debate, Patriots “weather luck”
• [32:53] Sam Darnold as NFC Champion, Seahawks roster and game
• [56:31] Setting the Super Bowl narrative & the “weather luck” debate
• [61:52] Championship Sunday "Biggest Losers" rundown
• [79:05] Conspiratorial “NFL rigged” meme, logos, and trophy rant
• [82:36] Steelers hire Mike McCarthy—fan and host reaction
• [94:47] “Who’s Back of the Week” (Blades Brown, Robert Saleh, more)

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Tone & Style

The episode is delivered in classic PMT style: rowdy, sarcastic, quick-witted, and inside joke-laden. The hosts mix genuine football analysis (including sharp player evaluations, game theory, and stat drops) with relentless comedic riffs and a sense of self-aware sports fan despair (especially from Non-Patriots fans). Good-natured ribbing, incredulity at the Patriots’ luck, and recurring in-house challenges/bets create a loose, banter-heavy structure that die-hard fans love.

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Conclusion

This lengthy, laugh-filled episode captures all the joy, agony, pettiness, and wild momentum swings of NFL Championship Sunday. It sets up Super Bowl 60 between the Patriots and Seahawks as a clash of destiny and luck, celebrates the long-awaited redemption of Sam Darnold, and keeps things lively with ongoing bets, quirky merch launches, and plenty of self-deprecation. In other words, classic Pardon My Take—part football, part sports comedy, all spectacle.

Transcript

[PFT Commenter]

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[Hank]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Hank]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

Yes. Boom.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Boom.

[Max]

What?

[Memes]

Hank.

[Hank]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Boom. In Denver in Mile High, Jared SD.

[Hank]

Diem got the scoring started early after tossing a Clement TD at a Courtyard Marriott Sutton. Then on a 4th and 1 at the Patriots 14, RJ Hampton Harvey had his shot blocked down for an incompletion after a tremendous play call from Patriots defensive coordinator Zach ok. Two drives later Jared P. Stitty dropped back with a looped up ball but Christian Larry Ellison looked like an oracle who could see the future and forced a fumble and a wat. And a wat Patriots recovery. Drake May made them pay with his legs scoring on a six yard scamper.

[PFT Commenter]

Then came the snow Andy Aurora Pagor.

[Hank]

Regales put the pats up three with the only made field goal of the game. And then after being given prime field position, Will was looking like a putz after missing a game time field goal that was tipped by Lawrence Superman Taylor III with the game on the line. Third and six. I forgot to finish this Boomer. But Drake May put the game away and ended everyone's Patriots haters chances of winning the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh you're not reading anymore?

[Hank]

Another trip to the Super bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

You're not even New England Patriots.

[Hank]

You're not even PFT is sick. Pass her in the soupy. They win 10 7.

[PFT Commenter]

Thanks thanks Boom.

[Hank]

No problem.

[PFT Commenter]

Boom. Okay and we head out to Seattle where the needle was dry. Sorry TJ Watt for the NFC Championship game, the Seahawks came out hot with the collectibles king Kenneth Brandon Walker as he gobbled up yards and told the crowd to keep hollering. The Rams answer with two field goals from the Great Corn Julio Mavis and Butthead and then opened up opened things up for Kyron Serena Williams and he said on the way to a Rams touchdown but they forgot about one man. I'm sorry Ms. Jackson Smith the Jigba. He is for real. Never meant to make your cornerback cry. I apologize a trillion times as a Seahawks go into halftime with a 17:3.

[Big Cat]

Lead and in the second half the LGB Seahawks came out and said we are all bobosexuals. Haha. Come on Jake I see you smoking pcp, Jake. As Seattle Denzel Washington had a bobo quake, the Rams responded with not Devonta Friday, not Devonta Saturday, but Devontae Sunday. Catching some chocolate rain made me catch a cool to yard touchdown to make it 24 20. But Alex Cooper hit him with the Cup Cup 9000, sucking up Darnold's balls for some big catches and a score to put the Seahawks up big before Tariq. Wouldn't it be nice if you were smarter and you kept it to yourself? Wouldn't it be nice if you were nicer and left the field on 4th and 12? Wouldn't it be nice Then Puka nuclear caught a bomb. But the Seahawks came back out and took control of the field and put their fours up the Rams asses, leading to a Super bowl reunion of Mike and Mike. Hey, Golic.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey. Hey, Mike.

[Big Cat]

Hey.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, Greeny.

[Big Cat]

I'd like to say we're dedicating this Today's episode to 1-800-FLowers promo code Mike and Mike, top left corner of your screen. Promo code Mike. My wife doesn't let me eat grapes unless I'm using a fork and a knife. Mike.

[PFT Commenter]

Ha ha ha.

[Big Cat]

I'm a nerd.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm a jock.

[Big Cat]

That's wild. The Seattle Seahawks are going back to the Super Bowl 31:27.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Hank]

I'm happy. I love doing the show with you.

[PFT Commenter]

Smiling in our face. This is.

[Hank]

This is the best show. And I love you. I'm a happy guy.

[Big Cat]

Our boys a champion.

[PFT Commenter]

Patriots 10.

[Hank]

I do this every Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, every Sunday. You're exactly like this. Patriots 10, Broncos 7.

[Big Cat]

What a game.

[PFT Commenter]

AFC championship game. It was an ugly one to say the least. The snow showed up hard in the second half.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. That was a clean, pristine green field for the first half. Much of the third quarter, too. And then. Listen. I love watching snow football. This is what they're trying to take away from you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

All the dome stadiums that are being built right now. If you want a Super bowl, got to have a dome. Every team wants a dome. They're trying to steal snow football away from you. And honestly, if you watch this game, I kind of agree with it.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, okay. But here's the thing. Everyone.

[Big Cat]

Everyone and I love snow football.

[PFT Commenter]

I know everyone's talk about how bad this game was and how the weather affected it. It was the same in the first half. There was no weather in the first half. And it was 7 to 7 based off of one Jared Stidham bomb to Marvin Mims and then one Jared Stidham dodo play where he just threw the ball and fumbled it backwards and the Patriots scored. So it's not like the weather made this game ugly. This game was going to be an ugly survival of the fittest type of game. From the jump.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's how it was. I mean, the Broncos defense played their ass off. The Patriots defense played their ass off. Both quarterbacks struggled and Jared Stid him in his tail. Couldn't get it done.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Not built for the cold. Not built for the cold. We got into a debate during the game on whether or not the tail was good or bad for a quarterback. I think we came to the conclusion that a tail on a wide receiver would be awesome.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Right? Tail on a quarterback. Maybe not the greatest thing ever, but I. I just want to say I want to be the bigger man in the situation. And congratulations to Hank. You were right. You said week zero. You're going to have the best team on the podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he also said three years ago the Patriots would be in the Super bowl in five years.

[Big Cat]

He did listen.000. Like I said, I am done fighting against Hank. I'm done fighting against Patriots fans.

[PFT Commenter]

It's you.

[Big Cat]

You'd have better luck rooting for the Tide not to come in. You'd have better luck rooting for the sun not to rise in the east every morning. That's where the sun rises, Hank. It's on the east side. You'd have better luck rooting against your.

[PFT Commenter]

Your. Hank knows that from his luxury condo that overlooks Lake Michigan.

[Big Cat]

I was also thinking, like, the time he spends on boats. He's probably very familiar with the ties.

[PFT Commenter]

We'Re going to get. We're going to get. We're going to get into.

[Big Cat]

Hank, this is. This is just how.

[PFT Commenter]

How. If you. If you don't. If you hate him, you don't hate him enough the way he has planned for the next two weeks.

[Big Cat]

The way I see it is, is you've got two options. One, you can keep fighting. You can keep dreaming the impossible dream. That's another Don Quixote reference. Hank, I'm sure you finished that book by now because it's been so long.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, do they have the pft. Do they have Don Quixote? Do they have the chapters of Don Quixote in the golf simulator?

[Big Cat]

They don't.

[Memes]

Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So then he wouldn't have finished it.

[Big Cat]

No. So you can. You can keep doing this. You can. You can keep fighting and hoping and praying that nothing good happens to the New England Patriots, or you can just choose to profit off of it. I've made the decision to just profit off of it because it's inevitable. Starting now, I've made the decision.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And Patriot super bowl. That's just what's going to keep happening over and over is they're just a franchise that has a horseshoe shoved up their ass. And you. You can accept it, or you can fight against the inevitable and be miserable. And I'm choosing. I'm choosing love. I'm choosing to love the Patriots from now on because Hank was right. I was wrong. Congratulations, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

So. So the bet that. That you guys made, which is still ridiculous because I remember so vividly sitting in that, what, like a Courtyard Marriott in the middle of great week, I think it was in Buffalo.

[Big Cat]

We were eating.

[PFT Commenter]

We had some pizza. It was late after a long day.

[Big Cat]

Probably Lenova pizza. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it was a bet that was made that was. It was Mac Jones, Patriots, and PFT said the Patriots won't be back in the super bowl for five years. And they shook on it. And it was a $50,000 bet. And this is three years into it. Four years into it.

[Big Cat]

I would have had one more year.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's four years into it, they're back in the Super bowl. You owe him $50,000. And it came on a third and six to ice the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But I actually think that Hank should be thanking me.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree with you on this one. I agree with you.

[Big Cat]

Josh McDaniels very clearly listens to part of my take.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

As he should, because there were two third and sixes at the Patriots had today. One, they ran a draw play. They handed the ball off didn't let him pass it. Second one, they told Drake May run the football again.

[Hank]

He actually didn't tell Drake May. He just did that on his own.

[Big Cat]

Well, maybe he. Maybe Drake. Maybe he listens, and he knows that his one weakness is third and six. So his completion percentage on that down being twice, like, two times lower than the league average. So they obviously listen to the show. As I told you at the time, Hank, this was to warn Drake May. They listen to me. And you won the football game. So maybe you should be thanking me for this victory. You should.

[Hank]

Yeah, I'll be the bigger man.

[Big Cat]

Pft. Not hard to do.

[PFT Commenter]

You stat hole.

[Hank]

You were right. Yeah. Stat hole.

[PFT Commenter]

You.

[Hank]

He did his work. I don't know how many hours you had him. Had him working on Drake May stats this year, but it turned out to benefit the Patriots in the long run. So thank both of you guys.

[Big Cat]

I did it out of love.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Hank]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, let's just do it, Hank. Cause then we can talk about the Broncos. Because the Broncos have to be sick with how this game was Absolutely sick sick because it was as winnable as winnable could get for them. And they were a. Jarrett Stidham just basically going into the game. They had to say, hey, Jared, sit him. Don't do anything really, really stupid, especially in the shadow of our own end zone. And he did exactly that. And then they also had at the end of the game, the bad punt, which the Patriots had bad punts all day. The Broncos had good punts. The bad punt that got them the ball at the Patriots 33. They get basically no yards. They kick, they miss, they get a field goal blocked. And then we find out afterwards, Will Lutz said they couldn't see where the lines were, and they lined up a yard closer than they should have been.

[Hank]

Oh, wow. So it should have been a penalty.

[Big Cat]

No, no. There were six yards.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't want to scrimmage, football, buddy. They were. They were closer to the line of scrimmage. That's not a.

[Hank]

Got it, got it, got it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

Oh, so if you line up correctly, it wouldn't have got.

[PFT Commenter]

Sweetie, that's not a penalty. That's just. You can line up wherever you want to line up.

[Hank]

Got it. I thought you were talking about the center, but that's all right. No, no, no. Yeah, you're right. I don't know, Paul. I just know championships.

[Big Cat]

You do. You just. You just know winning.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's a sickening, sickening game for. I mean, even. I think Nick Benito said, like, it's sickening knowing that we were the better team. Well, you weren't because you lost.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Can't say that knowing we're definitely the better team. No.

[Big Cat]

I have a question. If Bo Nick starts that game, do you think the Broncos win?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, Patrick certain retweeted a tweet from someone saying safe to say Bo Nicks would have bojango fried these word. I can't say.

[Hank]

That's a shame.

[Big Cat]

Is that true?

[Hank]

We'll never know.

[Big Cat]

That's also true.

[Hank]

Yeah. I would say no. You could say yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Embrace the bait that the, the Stidham fumble is just one of the all time like, dude, just take a sack. And then also Sean Payton. Not like you're fourth and one. You're, you're an underdog with your backup quarterback in the AFC championship game. The game has gone perfectly for you to start the game. I'm, I, I do like coaches that are aggressive, but at that point it's like, dude, take a two score lead.

[Big Cat]

I was okay with going for it. I hated the play call.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like why, why are you putting the ball in Stidham's hands right there? I didn't like that. I thought it was the right thing. Like if you can get that first down, you can get a touchdown on that drive. That feels like a very, very winnable game from that point on for the Broncos. So I, I, I'm not gonna knock Sean Payton for being aggressive. I don't, I just didn't like the play call on it.

[Hank]

I don't know how much advance. Obviously they, they knew more. My very limited, like I searched the weather app maybe this morning or last night for Denver and you could see, you know, at five o' clock the snow emoji came in. I'm assuming they had a more, you know, advanced report on what the weather was.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So you would think, I don't know, like did they know that that big of a storm was coming? And if they did that I feel like changes what they should.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if that's something you can change far in advance, but maybe wearing the neon orange jerseys going up against the all white jerseys that you couldn't see at all and that's might have had an effect.

[PFT Commenter]

And also your defense is playing the Denver, the Broncos defense was lights out.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like they had, they had Drake May in hell. Other than like what Other than the flea flicker to Matt Collins. It didn't feel like the Patriots offense ever had like a big chunk play that and like that they ever got into a real rhythm.

[Hank]

It was the Mac Collins play and then Drake May running were basically the only big plays that they had.

[Big Cat]

And Hank, you know I love Drake May, right?

[Hank]

Yeah, of course.

[Big Cat]

My concern is like, are you really that confident for long term when you have a quarterback that's run first?

[Hank]

I don't think it's run first.

[Big Cat]

I just think those guys can get injured.

[Hank]

Listen, he didn't play the best.

[Big Cat]

I don't root for injuries. But if you have a quarterback that run runs with the football that much, you're exposing yourself to a lot of hits and you can get injured. So I'm just concerned, that's all.

[Hank]

Yeah, that's a fair concern, I think. I think Drake, you know, as he gets better, he'll. He'll learn to stay in the pocket more. But when he needs to run, he runs. And he proved that. I think he has like as many rushing yards in the playoffs as Tom Brady, and Tom Brady has like a bajillion more games.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, he great running quarterback.

[Hank]

He did what he did what he needed to do. I think the, like, he struggled both games in the weather. He didn't play his best football. I think the, the defense picked him up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You want to hear some? Here's a crazy stat right now. Brady and May for the through their first three games of the playoffs. Brady's completion percentage 61.9. Drake May 55.8. Not quite as good there. But then you've got passing yards 572 to 573. Drake May has thrown twice as many interceptions as Tom Brady did. And then they both had the same number of rushing touchdowns. One.

[Hank]

I have a stat for you. Pft.

[Big Cat]

Kind of wild.

[Hank]

Drake May is tied for winning percentage in conference championship games. Jane Daniels is tied for dead last.

[Big Cat]

It's tied for. What do you mean? He's tied for winning percentage in championship games?

[Hank]

Like Drake May's winning percentage, but he.

[Big Cat]

Didn'T include that part.

[Hank]

Jay Daniels is tied for dead last at zero.

[PFT Commenter]

He's not good at stats.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you didn't get all the stat out the first time.

[PFT Commenter]

He almost gets some of the stacks words.

[Big Cat]

It got stuck.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You're just so happy and I love seeing.

[PFT Commenter]

Take a glass of water. Drink a little water.

[Hank]

Good.

[Big Cat]

I'm good.

[Hank]

You guys can't go through Gaslight me and try and knock me down as much as you want.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's so.

[Hank]

Hey, here's the deal.

[Big Cat]

Commenter always pays his bets. I know that it's been about six, seven months since you have owed me $10,000 and I haven't. I haven't seen that money yet.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, you haven't paid him the money that you owe him.

[Hank]

Well, we said on the show. I said I wanted.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Well, I gave him Starlays.

[Big Cat]

None of the Starlights hit. They were you. Those are throwaway Starlays.

[Hank]

I mean, if they had hit, you would have taken the money out of that. That doesn't make sense. This was. It was your idea to do the Sarlay's. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Well, so none of the money was repaid. Correct.

[Hank]

Correct factor. Well, no.

[Big Cat]

Fact or fiction.

[Hank]

Some of the money was bet per your, like, request. That is so fiction.

[Big Cat]

But then you.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys play golf?

[Hank]

We did play golf. And then I lost more money and you didn't pay. And then we said, we'll see how the Patriot season goes.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so Hank Comets are always pays his bets. Right now I've got.

[PFT Commenter]

Pulling out some. Some cash.

[Big Cat]

Here we go. I've got $2,000 right here.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

It'll put a dent in that. Now here's the thing. I know you like games. I know you like to have fun. You're a fun guy.

[PFT Commenter]

You do like games.

[Hank]

I'm a fun guy.

[Big Cat]

You like to have. You like to smile. You like to hang out with the boys.

[PFT Commenter]

Please tell me that you've set up like some version of Saw. Well, it's like Hank is chained to that couch and he can't get out.

[Big Cat]

Not quite. I mean, pretty close. I talked to Zach last week. We went ahead and we rented one of those cash Cyclone machines.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, nice.

[Big Cat]

That sprays the money up in the air.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually think you guys shouldn't have rented. I think I still have one.

[Big Cat]

Do you really?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, remember I bought one like three years ago?

[Big Cat]

I forgot about.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's somewhere in this office.

[Big Cat]

Okay, well, now we got a second one. Okay, so Hank, it's right outside. If you wanted to now or if you wanted to after the show's over, you can go. I'll pay it back to you $2,000 at a time in 40 second intervals where you'll have to catch all the money in the air.

[Hank]

Okay?

[Big Cat]

It'll be fun. Be a fun game for it.

[Hank]

It does sound fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Hank, now I have a question for you. Would you be willing to potentially do a double or nothing on the Super Bowl?

[Hank]

I have been thinking about the money.

[Big Cat]

It is.

[Hank]

It is. It is a lot of money. I do feel like just, you know, vibes, karma. I. I am gonna donate Some to charity. Like 10. 10,000.

[PFT Commenter]

So no double or nothing on the Super Bowl?

[Hank]

No, I wanna. I want to give back before. I want to give some money back before I lose it all, because then I would just feel bad this way.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't believe?

[Hank]

I believe.

[PFT Commenter]

So then just do double or nothing. 100. 100 grand. Pitsy would owe you 100 grand.

[Hank]

Let's do 30k.

[Big Cat]

No, that doesn't work for me.

[PFT Commenter]

Double or nothing. So you hate double or nothing. No, it's double or nothing.

[Hank]

So you hate charity. I'm trying to get money to charity.

[Big Cat]

I love charity.

[PFT Commenter]

If you do double or Nothing, I'll give $5,000 to charity right now, free of charge.

[Big Cat]

Hank hates charity.

[Hank]

All right, fine. I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

Dana Farber foundation.

[Max]

You want to do that?

[Big Cat]

Do I want to? Well, see, Big cat made it sound like. Like he was offering the double. I offered.

[PFT Commenter]

Offer.

[Big Cat]

I offered Hank the double or nothing off the air beforehand, and Hank got really scared and ran away.

[Hank]

As I said, I don't know if you said, you.

[PFT Commenter]

You have to.

[Hank]

Big cat was bullying and being like.

[PFT Commenter]

You have to do it.

[Hank]

You have to do it. You have to do it. I said, I don't have to do. If you're gonna donate five grand.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'll do it.

[Hank]

Dana Farber. I'll do it.

[PFT Commenter]

No problem.

[Big Cat]

So 80 grand?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just straight up money line. Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I love this.

[Max]

So if the Patriots win the super.

[Hank]

Bowl, you go.

[Big Cat]

Well, this kind of sucks because I rented the cash machine for, like, $1400, but that's okay. We'll have some fun with the cash machine.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Max]

I'm sure. Big cow will.

[PFT Commenter]

You'll. Yeah, we'll figure out.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

We'll take care of the. The cash grab.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll have some up with the cash machine. You feel good about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I love it. But you were hesitant at first. I want to give.

[Hank]

I was like, I feel like there's just so much. So much good karma and good things coming my way. I want to.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm giving it on your behalf.

[Hank]

I know. So we're good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Great deal, Hank.

[Hank]

And we sold a thousand. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What is that thing you have there, Hank?

[Hank]

So we. You know, it was a stroke of good luck. I was pretty upset with PFT and his. His troll dog toy. So this was, like, in September, we got working shout out to the. The Barcel Merch team Pilar. Allison. We got working on a PFT gnome.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I was like, I want to make a PFT life size gnome. We got it developed and they're get like, obviously not our normal merch. I think they delay. They got delayed from China, so they're going to get shipped out.

[Big Cat]

You're doing a great job selling this. Well, we sold a hell of a sale.

[Hank]

We sold out in 30 minutes. We made a thousand. We made a thousand and we sold all. We sold out in 30 minutes. Because when we made them, it was like, oh, there's not going to be as big stakes. There's not going to be. We weren't expecting this big promotion and this big, like, flux of people that hated PFT to come. But with all of your patriot slander over the last month or two, I.

[Max]

Think it's people that like pfd.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

It is a great.

[Hank]

It is a great gnome.

[PFT Commenter]

So describe it for the people. It's PFT as a garden.

[Hank]

It's life size PFT with a nice little belly. Wearing a part of my takeout holding the football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's such a funny thing.

[Big Cat]

If I were to nitpick this, which I don't want to, the. The pointed hat is.

[Hank]

It's a.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Maybe a little look up gnome. Look up any gnome.

[Big Cat]

I did look up gnome. As a matter of fact, Hank, I thought that a troll doll of me would have been a much better idea, but I like.

[Hank]

Because you just said, you know, a little, little short.

[Big Cat]

This was a troll doll. A troll. I mean, I. Listen, I'm not gonna nitpick. I think it's very funny. And I think that maybe little PFT and little Hank will have some fun adventures together. Yeah.

[Hank]

A thousand people, part of history.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, when you showed me that. Well, you've been working on that. You showed me that like two months ago. Oh, yeah. And I. Man, I hope this sees the light of day. He's.

[Big Cat]

He's kind of adorable.

[PFT Commenter]

It's perfect.

[Big Cat]

Look at him.

[PFT Commenter]

He is adorable.

[Big Cat]

He's got football. I like it. Yeah, I like it a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, good job.

[Big Cat]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, PFT credit to you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Unlike Hank, who. Who bitched and moaned about the dog toy set. Yeah. Had a crisis. You're taking this very well.

[Big Cat]

I think it's kind of cool. I think it's a adorable little guy.

[Hank]

Hell yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We all handle it like a man.

[Hank]

We all won today.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we did.

[Hank]

We charity podcast made money and Now I got 80 grand on the line.

[PFT Commenter]

80 grand on the grand on the line.

[Big Cat]

I shouldn't have done that. Big cat.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think we should have a conversation about the New England Patriots. And I'm not saying this, I'm not saying it, but other people will have a conversation about them. I just want to be first market to have the debate.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because you will see a debate similar to this.

[PFT Commenter]

I. Yeah, I have a feeling I know what debate you're going to come up with.

[Big Cat]

And again, for the record, can we put like a flashing bright letters on the screen being like, pft does not believe this, but we need to ask the question Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Actually, already, Matt, you could say Max believes Max. You're just reiterating with Max.

[Big Cat]

I was having a conversation with Max in the bathroom earlier.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he said, do you think the New England Patriots are the worst team to ever qualify for the Super Bowl?

[Max]

That's. I don't think I said that.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he said, easiest schedule, easiest path to the Super Bowl.

[Max]

That's not what I said. I said, is this the worst a team has ever looked on their way.

[Big Cat]

To the Super Bowl?

[PFT Commenter]

Got it. Okay.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a fair.

[Big Cat]

But I mean that the question people are going to be asking on other shows, not ours, is this the worst thing to ever make the Super Bowl?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not a Super bowl historian. Listen, you play the games. You in front of you. It just so happens in front of them has been Justin Herbert with no offensive line, CJ Stroud. Ass in the.

[Big Cat]

In the snow.

[PFT Commenter]

Defense has been very good. I said that.

[Big Cat]

And you guys have been very good. Great weather luck, too, which, again, you play. When you play, you've had great weather luck.

[Max]

A blizzard started the second you guys took the lead.

[Big Cat]

And also in the Texas game.

[PFT Commenter]

That is true.

[Hank]

My man said weather walk.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'm just saying I'm not having the conversation.

[Hank]

That'll be on. On Sports Center. Weather walk. Is it real? Question mark.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank has taught us weather's not real.

[Max]

RG3 did say that this is the toughest path that any super bowl, that any team has ever made on the.

[Big Cat]

Way to the super bowl, which he should credit me. I told Hank that he should start talking about that. When all the haters come out and say, like, is this the worst team ever to make Super Bowl? Just be like, we've gone against generational defenses, the Chargers, the Texans, the Broncos, and now you play against the Seahawks. If you beat those four teams, you should be saying, we've had the hardest stretch of defenses ever.

[Hank]

The beauty about, like, Being in the situation, you know, you guys never have been, but it's like talk.

[Big Cat]

That's not true.

[Hank]

When you're the team in the super bowl, every. All the talk around it is just talk. It's just people that have hated the Patriots for 20 years with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. That doesn't go away. That sticks with them. No matter what they say, even if they're a national sports podcaster, like on tv, as an analyst, they're just trying to discredit a team because of personal feelings and personal hatred. We're focused right on the Super Bowl. Like the conversation about if we're the best, worst, second. It does not matter. All that matters is winning the Super Bowl. We have a chance to do that. You guys can talk all you want and grade the Patriots how you want and say whatever you want. It's not taking away the fact that in two weeks, we're playing for a Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

It is another one.

[Hank]

It was seventh one. The joke was fourth on this podcast since it's existed.

[PFT Commenter]

The joke was made a lot on online, but spent all year being like, we got to be done with the Chiefs. And then the Chiefs were done, and then the Patriots came back. That's what happened.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, this.

[Hank]

It feels different, though, when it's the Patriots. It's more fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, of course. Of course it is for him.

[Big Cat]

You love the Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you just say. Say. Say the quarterback. Say if you win this super bowl, say the four quarterbacks with a straight face.

[Hank]

Justin Herbert, CJ Stroud, Jared Stidham, Sam Darnold. Those are all top draft picks.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, sorry.

[Hank]

Three out of four. My bad. Well, you said.

[Max]

All right, so 25 of those were not.

[Hank]

Okay, I'll take 70. Yes. That's a good hit. That's like. What do you mean, 75? Anything is good.

[Big Cat]

So the opposite would be 75. 25 of anything is bad, which is Drake May's completion percentage on third and six.

[Hank]

Good one. Nailed it.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, I got a question for you. Yeah, can we just real quick, for the listeners, just go through your schedule, if that's okay. I'll start.

[Hank]

We got work this week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, we got work this week, but. So super bowl week. We usually go Sunday. You're going Friday. What are you doing on Saturday?

[Hank]

Okay, this is where it's like, what are you doing Saturday? Dealing with your kids, Doing your hobby?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm asking a question.

[Hank]

You have kids.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't get defensive.

[Hank]

I don't care what Zach's doing. Zach's gonna play video I was just asking. On Saturdays we do what our hobbies.

[PFT Commenter]

What are you doing?

[Big Cat]

When you said schedule, I thought you were gonna say, okay, you had the Raider Raiders week one.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm asking a question. What are you doing on Saturday?

[Hank]

On Saturday. Pft now are filming a video for our. Where at Spyglass.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay. Nice, nice. And then super content super bowl week, I'm playing lefty.

[Hank]

It's gonna be. It could be. You know, I could. What if I. What if I break the course record? Biggest most viewed video in the podcast history.

[PFT Commenter]

Pebble beach views for the podcast. Pebble beach money super bowl week. Are you going to the Super Bowl?

[Hank]

I'm planning on going to Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

Where are you going to be sitting?

[Hank]

I'm pretty sure I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

If you had to guess, you had to just take a wild guess where you're sitting in this.

[Hank]

Thankfully, one of, you know, one of my best friends in the world and my favorite people in the world, Dave Portnoy, is very rich. I'm assuming we're gonna have good seats.

[PFT Commenter]

Like maybe a suite maybe. Okay, so you're going in a suite in the Super Bowl. You're gonna party all week again.

[Hank]

That's content.

[PFT Commenter]

And then. Right. Party all week is content. And then right after this, partying all.

[Hank]

Week, there's no plans to party a week again. Friday, Saturday, when you guys go home big, how you'll probably with your kids again. PFD will be doing whatever with his dog. I can't wait.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll be doing kids and I'm gonna.

[Max]

Patriots are 1000% winning this.

[PFT Commenter]

When my.

[Max]

When we're doing this the way we're talking about this for winning the super bowl.

[Hank]

When.

[PFT Commenter]

When my. In. In 10 years when we're still doing this podcast and my kids are grown up and I'm enjoying the. Out of my life. And, and. And like, I. I have, you know, I can sleep in and my kids are. Are good kids and they're teenage and you have your babies and I could just laugh in your face and be like all those times, you piece of.

[Hank]

I'll be saying, I'll be like, damn, I wish I was you too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna get.

[Hank]

But I made a choice. You made a choice? I made a choice to choose golf. You made a choice to choose kids.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so you're going and then you're going from the Super Bowl.

[Hank]

No, I'll be back here for more golf for a podcast. I'll be back one or two weeks back here for work and then I'm going to Orlando for golf for a planned work vacation, which you guys will be on vacation too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Two weeks.

[Big Cat]

Hank, I got a question.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't hate Hank enough.

[Hank]

It's exciting. It's exciting.

[Max]

And they're gonna win the super bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's all.

[Max]

PFC's gonna lose 80, 000 and the Patriots are gonna win the Super Bowl.

[Hank]

He's gonna.

[Big Cat]

I just got done giving a speech home. Done fighting the patriots.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

They're 100 winning. They are so 1000 winning this game.

[Big Cat]

It's like I'm addicted. I'm addicted. I gotta see.

[Hank]

Exactly. Exactly. You're proving my point. It's. You can't get away from it.

[Max]

Their defense is very good. The Patriots.

[Hank]

It hasn't looked good, though, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Max.

[Hank]

What is this a team is. Has a team looked worse going in the Super Bowl?

[Max]

I. All right, Sorry. All right, sorry.

[Hank]

I'll. I'll give. Has looked good or bad. That's like half the team.

[Max]

Yeah. The other half the team has looked bad.

[PFT Commenter]

False.

[Hank]

Have you seen the NFL?

[Max]

Drake made 86 yards today.

[Hank]

It was a blizzard. We've gone.

[Max]

I was trying to. I was giving you a compliment. Like, the Patriots defense is good.

[Hank]

Well, I heard about doing PFT's conversation. Well, like, who has conversations?

[Max]

What do you want me to say here, dude? I was saying that the Patriots have a good defense.

[Hank]

You said they look good, but before, you said the T. The team looked bad. So I'm just trying to clarify.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, dude.

[Big Cat]

We'Ve gone way too long in this episode without talking to Memes. Memes. Have you talked to Hank yet?

[Memes]

Nope.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes wasn't here today.

[Big Cat]

What are your thoughts?

[Memes]

They just did it again.

[PFT Commenter]

They just did it again.

[Memes]

This is a terrible day in NFL history. No one should be happy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's just.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Memes]

It's sickening.

[Big Cat]

I.

[Memes]

They're calling it the memes bulb because. Let's talk about the second game.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah, he's gonna have this smirk on the whole week.

[Big Cat]

Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you.

[Big Cat]

What do you think when you see Hank's face right now?

[Memes]

So much hate. So much hate.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

So much hate.

[Big Cat]

Misguided.

[Hank]

I don't. I'd be happy for memes if.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what?

[Big Cat]

You would not be happy.

[Hank]

I was gonna say the job, but that's not right.

[Big Cat]

You would not be happy, though.

[Memes]

He didn't know his defensive coordinator.

[Hank]

Zachary.

[Big Cat]

This is. Is it the first time since 2010 that the AFC championship game didn't have Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes in it.

[PFT Commenter]

That could be true.

[Big Cat]

And it's just the Patriots again.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

There's only three.

[PFT Commenter]

Bills.

[Hank]

Bills, Bengals.

[Memes]

Nope, there's only three teams in the past. Was it 20 years? You guys named the third? It's Chiefs and Patriots.

[Hank]

Jets.

[Memes]

Yep.

[Hank]

Yeah, There you go.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Jets, Steelers.

[Memes]

Jets, Colts.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. The.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, Hank is like, wipe that smile. Can I tell you guys a side story about Hank? He's gearing up. So this is gonna be the best two weeks of his life. He's gonna, he's so excited. We have the, we're doing the three on three tournament again this week. And Hank has, has already tried to lobby to get drafted on the team. That could be tanking because he doesn't want to get injured. He basically just wants to show up for like five minutes and be out of the tournament so that he can stay healthy.

[Big Cat]

Hank, if you guys win the super.

[PFT Commenter]

Bowl, that's a fact.

[Big Cat]

Can you, can you, I wanna, I wanna spread out.

[Hank]

It's a, it's a big, you know, big money. We got a lot of people. I'm, I've been, I've been fortunate.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That's not what bets and win all this.

[PFT Commenter]

He said, no, I don't want to get hurt. I got the biggest. I got two weeks of just fun.

[Big Cat]

Hypothetically, let's say that the, the Patriots win a Super Bowl. You're there in the suite with Dave Portnoy living the high life. You, you play the best round of your life at Spyglass. Left handed.

[Hank]

That's not happening.

[Big Cat]

But you just said, what if you break the course record?

[Hank]

True. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what?

[Hank]

Keep it coming.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

The best.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then you go to Disney World. You ride the rides probably with Drake May you're on Space Mountain with him doing the whole nine yards. Would that, where would that fall in your best weeks of all time?

[Hank]

Oh, man.

[Big Cat]

Because you've had a great question.

[Hank]

Great question. I, I, we'd have to see, you know, just, just how things went, how the conversations went. It's such a high list. Nothing is ever going to top the Duck bowl with Missoula. That was the greatest day of my life.

[Big Cat]

The summer, Hank.

[Hank]

So it would, it would, it would be below that. But it could, there's definitely a good chance it could slip into like the top three.

[PFT Commenter]

It could, you could be in a top three week.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Is. I got a question.

[Big Cat]

Fucking hate you.

[PFT Commenter]

This. He's the worst.

[Big Cat]

Look at this.

[PFT Commenter]

Smart.

[Big Cat]

I know, I know. I want to be happy for my friends. And I want to see my friends do well. But the smile. That damn smile.

[PFT Commenter]

The. Does Mike Brable have to cut off his dick if the Patriots win this Super Bowl?

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I think you should volunteer.

[Hank]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you should. You should take one for the team.

[Big Cat]

It's kind of like when Missoula and you shaving your head thing. Like, you should volunteer as tribute.

[Hank]

I don't know the exact context. I don't know if that was like, I'll cut it off to win a Super bowl this year when he said it or if it was like, all time, because that would be a kind of crazy statement.

[PFT Commenter]

But are you going to continue? No naps.

[Hank]

Yeah, of course.

[PFT Commenter]

Really? You have to. Okay. Flight out to San Francisco.

[Hank]

Yeah, fuck it.

[PFT Commenter]

There's. You're gonna raw dog it for the people.

[Hank]

I have to. Yeah, you will.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you got a raw dog.

[Hank]

I will.

[Big Cat]

I'll be on that same flight, so I'll keep an eye on Raw dog it.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, you got to be locked in, right?

[Hank]

The raw dogging is locked into nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but that's the. Like, that's as locked in as it gets.

[Hank]

I'll stay awake. That's a challenge.

[PFT Commenter]

You will 100% stay awake.

[Hank]

Yeah. No naps.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the car ride early in the morning.

[Hank]

Listen, no naps.

[Big Cat]

What about after the round of golf when you had a couple. Couple cocktails in. You been outside all day?

[PFT Commenter]

I.

[Hank]

No naps.

[PFT Commenter]

What about Friday when you go out in San Francisco and you start partying, you go to a bunch of super bowl parties, and then Saturday you wake up and you're like, all right, I'm a little tired.

[Hank]

Maybe I'll just sleep in.

[Big Cat]

Okay, what about halfway through the week when we've done a bunch of interviews and me and Big Cat are waking up early, talking to everybody, and then you just start to drift asleep in the middle of your third podcast, usually on Thursday afternoon?

[PFT Commenter]

That's usually taxing week for you.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you haven't had that week.

[Big Cat]

Usually.

[Hank]

They. It's been a while since we've been in, like, a Patriots super bowl week, so it's like. It is a different mindset. I'm not just going there for. For laughs for a podcast. I'm going with golf. No, got. We got a job to do. Again, the. The golf is on an off day. You can do whatever you want in your off.

[Big Cat]

Wait, wait, Hank, that's not an off. I thought.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought you were working.

[Hank]

I'm choosing to do overtime.

[PFT Commenter]

That's right. You're not. Yes.

[Hank]

You're doing whatever in your off time. I will be on the clock.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Big time.

[Big Cat]

Hank Clockwood.

[PFT Commenter]

Y.

[Big Cat]

Time and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. And I actually thank you for doing that. I know you don't want to go to Spy Glass again.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the last place you want to be on earth.

[Hank]

I got to do what you got to do.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. What else?

[Big Cat]

I got one more question.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This is another one that you'll see other people talking about, not us talking about. What are the Patriots really good at?

[PFT Commenter]

Their defense has been playing great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

They also.

[PFT Commenter]

Their.

[Hank]

Their substitutions. They.

[Big Cat]

They.

[Hank]

At the. On the Substitutions. On the.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

On the st. And pick. The Broncos made subs, which then gave the Patriots opportunity to make subs. With the clock was running, the Patriots players basically got off the field with, like, four seconds left before the ref moved the ball and the Broncos were rushed. Sit him. Was rushed through a pick.

[PFT Commenter]

So big on substitution.

[Big Cat]

Great substitution team.

[PFT Commenter]

Great substitution. They are.

[Hank]

Yeah. Situational football.

[PFT Commenter]

The.

[Hank]

They did it with the Chargers, too. Remember when the Chargers were driving and they were like, they should keep the team on the field so they can't sub? And then they did, and the Patriots were able to switch out their defense.

[Big Cat]

But that most teams switch out their defense when they get the opportunity to match up against packages.

[Hank]

But, yeah, they did a good job with it by taking as much time as they possibly could.

[PFT Commenter]

They.

[Hank]

They use the rules to their advantage, which is good coaching.

[Big Cat]

I agree. By who?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Kurt.

[Big Cat]

What's his name?

[Hank]

Zach Kerr.

[Memes]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

The. The. The block field goal was huge. Obviously, we thought it was just a miss. It was gonna be a hard field goal to make.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Leonard Taylor said afterwards, I just jumped in the air and got a taste of the ball. No Diddy. Good. That no ditties are still going on. It's just replaced.

[Memes]

No homo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You could just. But it's.

[Big Cat]

That it's kind of funnier.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The. Yeah. I don't. I. If you're the Broncos, you got to be just, like, sick to your stomach that you had a. This was. Outside of Stidham's fumble was basically the exact game plan and, like, layout of how the game goes that you needed and you had it.

[Big Cat]

So I've got a stat here. This is. Close your ears. If you're a Patriots hater. The fewest points per game on offense in the playoffs for a team to reach the Super Bowl. Where would you think the Patriots fell in that list?

[PFT Commenter]

Wait. Say it One more time.

[Big Cat]

Fewest points per game on offense in the playoffs for a team to reach the Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. Low. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They're the sixth lowest.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

To ever get there.

[PFT Commenter]

What about the other. The other teams at the bottom, do they win or lose?

[Big Cat]

Washington did win theirs. I don't know. You have to go back like 40 years, basically.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

To find they are. With the exception of The Patriots in 2001, Tom Brady's first season, they averaged 13 point. Second season. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Hank]

Just. I want to make sure you were right.

[Big Cat]

2001, wasn't that Tom Brady's first season starting for the Patriots?

[Hank]

It was.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

It was his second season.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Tom Brady's first season play, actually playing as the starter for the Patriots. They were the most recent team to do it, and they ended up winning. Here's a fun stat from Jamie Eisner. The Patriots have won as many games since December 21st of 2025 as the Titans have won since they fired Mike Frable.

[PFT Commenter]

Crazy.

[Big Cat]

Kind of wild.

[PFT Commenter]

Now, what did.

[Hank]

What did Nick Fole say about this game? Hold on.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually. Pft. So I was gonna. I was waiting. We'll do. We'll do biggest losers after.

[Hank]

Oh, wait. He deleted the tweet.

[PFT Commenter]

He deleted it.

[Memes]

Damn.

[PFT Commenter]

That's actually a.

[Big Cat]

When he deleted.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't delete that tweet.

[Hank]

Can't find it.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't delete that tweet. Oh, no, Max.

[Max]

Yeah, I shouldn't have deleted it.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't delete that tweet, Max. You know, you can't delete that tweet.

[Max]

That's not even, like a bad.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he didn't even. Funny tweet.

[Big Cat]

That's what I'm wondering.

[PFT Commenter]

If he deleted it better after the.

[Big Cat]

Game or if he deleted it because that was, like, too mean for Nick Foles.

[PFT Commenter]

It could have been too mean for Nick Foles. Yeah, could have.

[Big Cat]

Very.

[PFT Commenter]

Because Nick Foles.

[Max]

Really nice guy. Friend of the program.

[Big Cat]

Very nice guy.

[PFT Commenter]

How. What's your confidence in Drake May going into the super.

[Hank]

10 out of 10.

[PFT Commenter]

10 out of 10?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[Hank]

Because he's Drake May. He's. He's been. He's won games against three tough defenses.

[PFT Commenter]

Sometimes Seahawks also very.

[Hank]

I know sometimes in the playoffs, though, you play not so good defenses. Then you run into a juggernaut. The Patriots have. Are used like they're up to speed against going against really good defenses. So this is just another good test. And it's like he has learned from the, you know, the last three games. There's not going to be snow issues and he's going to ball up Record.

[PFT Commenter]

When team scored under 17 points. Justin Herbert 2 and 16. Joe Burrow 1 in 10. Josh Allen 4 and 19. Patrick Holmes 2 and 7. Lamar Jackson 3 and 7. Drake May 2 and a half in the playoffs. In the playoffs. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Again, I'm done, I'm done betting against the Patriots. Starting now. Starting now.

[PFT Commenter]

Starting right now. Yeah, right now. So you feel confident going in this game? We have a lot of time to break down the game.

[Hank]

A lot of time to break down the game. A lot of, you know there's going to be a lot of 2014 Super Bowl. I'll probably go home and watch that. You know, like the NFL films. Do your job tonight. Good memories for Patriots fans. Sam Darnold I think has horrific stats against the Patriots lifetime. I'm excited. I cannot wait for this game. I'm happy, I'm happy. I, I didn't really care one way or the other, I guess. Do you want, do you want to wait for that game?

[PFT Commenter]

Let's do a couple ads, then we'll, we'll, we'll do the NFC championship game. Vastly different game in terms of watchability.

[Big Cat]

Before we get to that game. I mean it was football which was a more entertaining.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you're Mr. Football. Yeah, you're Mr. Football.

[Hank]

Also, Kurt Warner sick to his.

[Big Cat]

Mr. Football.

[Hank]

Kurt Warner was sick to his stomach.

[Max]

I don't even think you watched the first half of that game.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you.

[Hank]

I don't understand. Like I get like I'm not in the cave.

[Big Cat]

He was celebrating.

[Hank]

I was over.

[Big Cat]

I was sitting.

[Hank]

There's TVs in this entire office, you buffoon. You can ask.

[Max]

Okay.

[Hank]

Colton Jack. I was sitting here watching the game.

[PFT Commenter]

He was watching tape.

[Hank]

Pushing, pushing, pushing gnomes. Sold a thousand of them. No big deal. How many gnomes have you sold Factory Zero.

[Big Cat]

Hank is the best gnome salesman we got.

[Hank]

I might not know the most exes and O's about football and I've never claimed to know. Everyone's like, you don't watch the games. I have to watch the games. I've watched every Patriots game since this podcast has existed. I've been here every Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

There's documented proof.

[Hank]

No, but like the I get.

[Big Cat]

Didn't you stop watching some of the games at the end?

[Max]

You were just not in the room where we were all watching football.

[Hank]

I'm talking.

[Max]

It's not like that. That crazy for me to assume you weren't watching.

[Hank]

I'm talking about you. That is a little. I'm talking about the fans where they're like, you didn't watch. You don't watch football. It's like, I do watch football. I don't necessarily like absorb all of it. I'm not like a football savant, but I, I've watched every single Patreon for the last 10 years.

[Big Cat]

So except for a few Mac Jones games at the end, not even.

[Hank]

It's like we're still here. I don't like I'm watching the games. The games are on.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm watching here. President accounted for.

[Big Cat]

Good take though, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Okay. NFC Championship game. Good. You good, Hank. We're good with AFC Championship game. Why don't you stay locked in? Because we're going to talk about the team you're going to play, and you.

[Big Cat]

Love football after you play Pebble.

[Hank]

Yeah, let's do it. I think we're playing golf, too, aren't we?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think we're gonna have time. Oh, I wanted to, but I don't think I have time. I mean, I. We gotta. We gotta do a ton of stuff. Super bowl week.

[Hank]

I know. That was your. That was your offer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I know. I mean, but I just. Listen, schedule. It just wasn't enough time.

[Hank]

It's all good.

[PFT Commenter]

It's all right. But I. Saturday, again. We were saying it because we just stopped so that Colton could get a jump start. This last Saturday was my first Saturday that I had off from work since Labor Day, but you're right. Thank you for working this Saturday at Spyglass.

[Hank]

I got you.

[PFT Commenter]

I appreciate that. You know me, a guy like me, I don't really.

[Hank]

Someone punches out, someone's got. Else's got a punch in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you're right.

[Hank]

You took the load for. I appreciate five months. I got you for one Saturday.

[PFT Commenter]

One Saturday at Pebble Beach.

[Big Cat]

You got me passing the tour.

[PFT Commenter]

You got me. Thank God.

[Hank]

No problem.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like, you know, the. The footsteps in the sand.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

There's only one footstep. It's Hank carrying me on his way to Spyglass. That's exactly what.

[Big Cat]

You're not gonna be in the sand, though, because Hank's gonna shoot.

[PFT Commenter]

Of course that's true. He won't be in the sand all day.

[Hank]

Shoot a million, then I'm gonna have the greatest day.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay. NFC championship game. Seahawks 31, Rams 27. Similar to. I want to talk a lot about the Seahawks, but in terms of the Rams first, similar to the Broncos, they are going to be thinking about this game for a very, very long time. Because the two moments that stick out to me are the end of the first half when they get the ball back with a minute and 20. Can't get a first down, have to punt back to Seattle. Seattle then gets the. I mean, Jackson, Smith, the Jigba was so good in this entire game. And then obviously the muff punt and you can throw in the fourth and goal where they couldn't. They couldn't convert. But that was a game that the Rams felt like they had and Stafford was playing great and they just couldn't. They couldn't. They couldn't get over the hump. They couldn't get that lead late. That would. Would cement them into the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

I would add in a. A couple third and longs, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Walker had a big third and long where he took it out of bounds, barely got there. And then Cooper cup at the end, stretching out for that first down, going across the middle. If either one of those gets stopped, there's a good chance that the Rams go down and score because their offense looked really good today.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And Puka Naku was basically unstoppable.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Most of the day.

[PFT Commenter]

Devonte Adams is awesome. They were their whole often. I mean, Blake Corum, Kyron Williams.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

The Rams. Matthew Stafford in Seattle this season threw for two games, 831 yards, six touchdowns, and he went, oh and two. Yeah. And that's brutal. And that's also a testament to the Seahawks because this game, to me, Sam Darnold, the balls on him. The moments, you know, we. We've been asking the question for all season, hey, is there going to be a moment where Sam Darnold just, you know, turns in? Sam Darnold, he stepped up so big in this game that. That throw to Cooper cup to. To basically, you know, cement the game away. Just big play after big play to Jackson, Smith, Jigba. He had the patience, he had the pocket awareness. Never made the big mistake. He is.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That bomb to Shahid.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He's just. He was just awesome and I'm so happy for him. We could remember we never gave up on two guys, Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold. One of them's now playing in the. In the super bowl, and it was just Seattle like the, The. The Seahawks defense has been awesome all year. The Rams have been their kryptonite, but they were able to survive.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think my, My big takeaway from this game is just. I'm. I'm actually very, very happy for Sam Darnold.

[PFT Commenter]

I am, too.

[Big Cat]

I think that's awesome because Sam Darnold was thrown out when he was on the. The Carolina Panthers. He was like yesterday's trash. And they ran an offense that was completely unsuited to what it was that NFL teams expect him to do with Matt Rule and Then he goes to San Francisco and he says, I want to just be in a good place with good coaches for a little bit. I'll be a backup. I don't care. He plays with them for a little bit, learns, goes to Minnesota, has his career resurrected. Then. Then Minnesota throws him out because they've got nine, which in retro, you get that like nine. You gotta. You gotta roll with nine.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then he goes to the Seahawks and people are like, we'll see what happens with him because he had a bad end of his. His season in Minnesota. He. All the doubters, like, came out of the woodwork and they're like, this is the same Sam Darnold that we saw when he was going into hyperdrive or whatever with the Jets. Was that the hyperdrive years memes.

[Memes]

It was the mono years.

[Big Cat]

The mono years. But the point stands. It's like they. Everyone expected Sam Darnold to regress to what they saw at the end of his career with the jets, his career with the Carolina Panthers, and those last two games in Minnesota. It's almost like people were hoping that that would be what Sam Darnold became when he was in Seattle. And all he's done since he's been there is win football games.

[PFT Commenter]

And he shut everyone up today with three, almost 353 touchdowns. And like I said, just played almost a perfect game where Sam dart, like, he, you know, use his feet when he needed to for. For a couple big plays, got a couple sacked a couple times. They were, you know, well timed blitzes by the Rams. He played a perfect game like Sam Darnold shut everyone up. I'm very, very happy for him. He's a guy who, like, like you said, he's been bounced around and cast off and it's like time and place matter a lot. And he. He has met the moment and he's now playing in a Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

And that defense is really, really good. The Rams lit him up a little bit, but that defense is legit. Tariq Woolen almost had the worst mental mistake that you could ever imagine.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he did. He did in the worst two minutes that you could ever have on a football.

[Big Cat]

It ended up not costing them the game, but it very easily could have. When he. He broke up that pass, he probably, maybe could have picked it off, but it got knocked out of Nakua, I think.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Who, by the way? Puka Nakua. On balls that are interceptible, that are thrown in his vicinity, he turns into an all pro cornerback every single time. He's really, really good. At. At knocking the ball out of a DB's hands. But so he. He drops an interception, then he barks at the other team, is told, get to your sideline. He makes a beeline for the Rams sideline, starts talking to them like he's going to start a fight with them. It was 4 4th and 12 refs throw a flag and just give the Rams a first down. And then Sean McVay is very, very smart. He's like, we're going to go right at Woolen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Because he's in his head right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Nakua burns him, catches a touchdown. It felt like that could have been the start of the Rams putting this away and the Seahawks having the most heartbreaking loss that we can remember.

[Hank]

It really was championship history.

[PFT Commenter]

It was that moment where you're just like, holy, did he just cost them a trip to the Super Bowl? And then you have, Sam Darnold's picked him up.

[Big Cat]

Sam Darl picked him up. And you also had rookies on the sideline getting into his face, being like, hey, dude, you up bad?

[PFT Commenter]

Because it's like, that's a hard penalty to get called on, you know, especially after the play. They don't really want to call it, but when you walk up to an opposing coach and basically bark in his ear, they're going to call it. Yeah, after you go towards their bench.

[Big Cat]

After the ref said, hey, make a right. Yeah, right that way.

[PFT Commenter]

Right you go. You go towards their bench and you're. That's going to get called all the time. But yeah, the Seahawks. I mean, this John Schneider doesn't get talked enough about being an incredible gm. I saw the stat that's going around. He's the first GM to go to Super Bowls with. With two the same franchise, two different Super Bowls with completely new rosters and new head coach. Obviously there's been some teams, you know, Howie Roseman did it with two different head coaches, but there was some guys that were still on it. John Schneider did it with the. The teams in the early, you know, 2010s and now he's back there. And this also was like the. Think about, like the turnaround this has been for the Seahawks when they get rid of Russ and they kind of bottom and then they get Geno and they're like frisky, but not great. The draft picks, the free agent signings, the Sam Darnold signing, all of these moves have been pretty much perfect to get back here in a two, three year span. Yeah, it's crazy. They. They closed the book on Russell Wilson and then they back in the super bowl very quickly afterwards.

[Big Cat]

And I thought that they didn't seem to miss Charbonnet that much today. Kenneth Walker, he ran effectively. I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, he start the game the way he set the tone to start this game was, was phenomenal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So he got bottled up a little bit as the game went on, but he still had. I, I thought he looked good as the sole back and especially out of the, the backfield catching the ball. Yep, he played really well. The Seahawks offense, I thought, moved the ball pretty consistently the entire game.

[PFT Commenter]

Is just.

[Big Cat]

He's a chico.

[PFT Commenter]

His, his hands are so good. He catches anything that's close to him. His body control, his. He's just, he's just an absolute phenom. We talked about it all year that he is. He should be talked about as the best wide receiver in football the way he played all, all season. And he's continuing it in the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

And they got, they got an uncut gym and Jake Bobo.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, man, Jake Bobo. Max Bobo.

[Big Cat]

What a catch from Jake.

[PFT Commenter]

What a catch.

[Max]

What a route from Bobo.

[PFT Commenter]

Great.

[Big Cat]

Pieced him up. I thought Bobo did a great job on special teams too. Drew a big.

[Max]

He was all over the field.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

He was my MVP of the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. This is, yeah, it's, it's brutal though, for the, for the Rams to think about like how close they were because you know what? One, if they had beaten the Seahawks on that Thursday night game, I think. I think they might have had to still beat the Falcons, but they would have had home field. They would have had a path to home field one seed. And then, you know, this is. I don't think you can say like this. The Rams were in this game, so you can't be like, oh, well, they're tired. But they did have to go on the road three straight weeks. The rest advantage was heavily on the Rams or Seahawks side. And it just kind of comes down to these two games in Seattle that they were like on a down to down basis, just as good. They just couldn't make the one or two plays and they had the one or two mistakes that cost them the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the third quarter of this game was absolutely insane. Well, it was crazy. And then, and then both teams kind of tightened up in the fourth.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's the thing. Like we, we always joke about it, but it's, it's, it's. It. I think in the playoffs more than anything, it comes true. Special teams because, you know, we make the joke. Oh, it's. You Know, it's a third of the game because it's a cliche. And obviously it's not as important as the offense, defense. But when you get into the playoffs and the margins are so thin, special teams becomes so, so important and so magnified. And if you look at special teams for the Rams all season, they have not been great. And what happens? They get the muff punt to a quick Seattle touchdown. What happened on that Thursday night in week 15 or 16, whatever, it was the punt return that sparks the comeback. Special teams matter. And that's where the Rams, like, they could have the best offense. They have a great defensive line. If you make one mistake on special teams, it can mean that you're going home. And that's kind of what happened.

[Big Cat]

Do you think that this is the last we'll see of Matt Stafford? I do not think he's back.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he's probably back.

[Big Cat]

So he gonna sleep in that weird cryother cryo chamber? Maybe get a mat the entire off season?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Matt. On Matt.

[Big Cat]

I think the teeth need to get bigger.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, what. All right, so maybe he will because he's tired and he's banged up. But it is not a situation like a Peyton Manning in 2015 or Aaron Rodgers this past year where his skills have diminished. He's still playing at the same level.

[Big Cat]

He's using the legs today, too.

[PFT Commenter]

So why wouldn't you keep playing? Like, it's his choice, obviously, but you'd think a guy who's playing at this level would not want to walk away at this level. Yeah, right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I would think so.

[PFT Commenter]

As much as bad as this one was. Do you want to. So I have a list of.

[Big Cat]

Do you think that the. The injury before the season when McVeigh was like. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he's gonna even be able to play football. Can we look back now and be like, that was so. That was a load of.

[Hank]

Yeah, we'll do the exact same thing this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He just doesn't want to do, like, off season preseason.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Which makes sense. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so I have a list of biggest losers today. Do you guys want to go through it?

[Hank]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right, this is in no particular order, but, Hank, what do you smiling.

[Hank]

Me for PT's smiles while I'm smiling?

[Big Cat]

I smiled because Hank smelled that, by.

[PFT Commenter]

The way, made me happy. PFT's not on this list because his bet has not concluded with you yet.

[Hank]

Of course not.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That bet is pending.

[Hank]

Why would he be.

[PFT Commenter]

I Don't know. You're smiling at pft.

[Big Cat]

I got a kick ass troll dollar. I mean, sorry, gnome doll.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so biggest losers one, the. The. The Titans for the stat that you gave. What was that stat again?

[Big Cat]

That was it. December 21st. Since that date of 2025, the Patriots have more wins than the Titans have had since they fired.

[PFT Commenter]

Since they fired Mike Vrabel. That's a brutal one. How about the Atlanta Falcons because they interviewed Mike McDonald and Mike Van and then hired Raheem Morris. That's definitely in the biggest losers conversation.

[Hank]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

This one I, I always like. It sucks to. Because he's not a loser. He's a very, very good football player. Devonte Adams is now own five in NFC championship games. That's brutal. He's never been to a Super Bowl. Oh, and five. That's so tough. I think you have to throw the Vikings in there because Sam Darnold has shut up all the haters and they're going to the super bowl with Sam Darnold. And you basically said last year we, you know, they were a very good football team last year. They were a game away from the one seed and playoffs go through Minnesota and they said, Yeah, I mean, J.J. mcCarthy's our guy. And now Sam Darnold is taking the 1 seed to the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Russell Wilson biggest. One of the biggest losers today for one, Seattle. He wants to leave Seattle. He decides to leave Seattle. Seattle turns it around and gets back to the super bowl in pretty quick fashion. And two, the Broncos are in the AFC championship game and he is the highest cap hit on the Broncos. His fingerprints were all over championship Sunday. That's got to be tough.

[Hank]

And the interception is going to be replayed for the next two weeks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Point.

[PFT Commenter]

Also really good point.

[Big Cat]

I've already seen a million times.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you got to throw the Bills in there.

[Hank]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Just because, you know, the last six years they've been right there. And then we had the press conference earlier this week and then the Patriots are just back in the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

That's really tough for Bill's fans.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's tough for Bills fans.

[Hank]

The Dolphins.

[PFT Commenter]

Dolphins. Memes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Memes personally. Memes personally.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want to. Do you want to talk about the super bowl matchup memes real quick? I mean, this is. This is hell for you.

[Memes]

Yeah, this is hell. But good. Good for Samdar world.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

The jets are a QB factory. They drafted a quarterback that went to the Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

That's facts.

[Memes]

That is a fact.

[PFT Commenter]

Second time in history.

[Memes]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

What else is on the. The assembly line of the quarterback factory?

[PFT Commenter]

Joe Namath.

[Memes]

In the past 10 years.

[PFT Commenter]

Geno Smith, he hasn't gone to a role.

[Memes]

Yeah, but he still had a pretty good career.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's made a lot of money in Seattle.

[Memes]

He was good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

But everybody, when they're on the jets, they just have freak accidents.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Geno Smith didn't go to a charity. Broke his jaw out for the season. Sam Darnold, second season in, got mono out for a core of the season.

[Big Cat]

If you have two nucleosises, you don't have one.

[Memes]

Aaron Rodgers, hall of Fame quarterback, Achilles explodes four plays into a season. Jack Wilson, pussy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Did you see the Week 18 thing memes?

[Memes]

Yeah, but that was Bill Belichick's last game ever, and it's a loss of the jets and his life is fucking. And spiraled out of control since that moment. So I don't give a. Can we beat the Patriots that day?

[Big Cat]

By spiraling out, do you mean like he's. He's dating a smokeshow who's also a philosopher.

[Memes]

You're right.

[Big Cat]

And a CEO.

[Memes]

You're right. Things more girls in his 20s than me.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, last loser was. Was. Was us for that weird commercial with the fat guy. That one was weird. Did you guys see that? The Eli Lilly commercial? The. The kid, the guy breathing really heavy and the. It was so weird. Yeah, that one was weird. I don't. I don't need that commercial just being like. He was like, I'm so fat. And. Yeah, you're making fun of me. I'm fat. I thought it was like a football player.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Commercial.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that commercial. We all lost on that commercial.

[Big Cat]

Agreed. America did.

[PFT Commenter]

America lost on that commercial. Who else was big? I mean, that's a big list. There's a lot of losers teams.

[Big Cat]

There's a lot of.

[PFT Commenter]

And things that happened today that you can look back at. The Falcons and Vikings got to be top of the list. Just because, I mean, seeing the. Seeing the. The tweet. Like, we just completed an interview with Mike Vrabel. We just completed an interview with.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

McDonald.

[Big Cat]

I would say altitude lost today.

[PFT Commenter]

Altitude lost today.

[Big Cat]

Drake may look great in the altitude.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Mike McDonald, by the way. He did, you know that. He's like a savant and he could have been like a Wall street wizard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There's a lot of these guys that are coaching teams now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That are like, you know, Ben Johnson, he's a. A computer genius. Right. Like, he's a coder.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Mike McDonald. I also, throw in the Ravens.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Because they. That feels like a situation where if they had pulled the trigger on John Harbaugh a couple years earlier, they could have had Mike McDonald.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I would say. Guys named Sean.

[PFT Commenter]

Guys named Sean. Bad day for guys named.

[Big Cat]

Really bad. Really bad day.

[PFT Commenter]

Really bad day.

[Big Cat]

Bad day for Weatherman, actually.

[PFT Commenter]

Was this. Was this the first day in a long time that Diddy didn't have the worst day for a guy named Sean?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Like.

[PFT Commenter]

Like Puff Daddy actually is sitting in prison right now being like, you know what? Wasn't the worst day for Sean and.

[Big Cat]

Me, Specifically this third.

[PFT Commenter]

Third worst Sean today.

[Big Cat]

I'd say for, like, this entire year, Drake has had the worst day for guys named Drake.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's true.

[Big Cat]

Because how good May's been playing.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true.

[Big Cat]

Lighting it up.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true.

[Big Cat]

Filling up the stat sheet.

[PFT Commenter]

It was. I mean, what a game, though, that.

[Big Cat]

It was a great game. It was a great. And the Seahawks are. I. I think that if you look at the entire season, the Seahawks have been the best team in the NFL.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, well, because I think the. The other team that you could throw in that conversation is the Rams. Right. They beat him twice when it mattered most in the last month.

[Big Cat]

Month. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

You agree? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So I think we got a great. A great super bowl matchup. The best team in the NFL and the luckiest team in the NFL.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yes.

[Big Cat]

Weatherlock.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Weather luck.

[PFT Commenter]

Weather luck. By the way, I just.

[Hank]

I. I want you, like, keep it going. Like, keep it. Just gonna make it that much sweeter. I want you to dig yourself in.

[PFT Commenter]

I will.

[Big Cat]

I will. I got no problem with that.

[PFT Commenter]

I know.

[Big Cat]

I mean, plant me in a garden. Let me dig myself in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, put them in the garden.

[Big Cat]

Do you think if Lil. Hank and Lil. Pft. Went on adventure together, they'd have. Have a good time?

[Hank]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Maybe we'll take them with us.

[Big Cat]

Bring them along.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I would like you to do that. Not. I don't want him to have editorial control because remember when we made the Hank dog toy, he got very upset.

[Big Cat]

He did. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you've got. You've been like, hey, great. This is awesome. It's awesome.

[Big Cat]

I think it's really cool. I might. I might buy. I might buy a lot of them.

[PFT Commenter]

Your attitude is infectious. Pft. With how you've dealt with.

[Big Cat]

And you know what? For every one of these that's sold, I'll donate a dollar to charity.

[PFT Commenter]

Love that.

[Big Cat]

How about that? Since you love charity so much.

[Hank]

6,000 charity.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

I'll match.

[Big Cat]

Wait.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, well, we're just charity.

[Big Cat]

We've sold 6,000 already.

[Hank]

Well, no. 5,000 from Big Cap.

[Max]

Oh.

[Memes]

Oh.

[Hank]

1,000 from PFT.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

And I'll do 6,000.

[PFT Commenter]

Why don't we do it to the hat you're wearing? P. Freddy's P. Fre.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Punch, repeat, love.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Als. Love it. We love Pete. Freeze. Yeah. Okay, great. Look at this. The charity boys.

[Big Cat]

This is a show that gives.

[PFT Commenter]

We're just charity boys over here.

[Big Cat]

Feels good.

[PFT Commenter]

Feels incredible.

[Hank]

Feels great.

[PFT Commenter]

We're just a podcast that gives back.

[Hank]

It feels good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you. So you think Matthew Stafford there's a chance. I.

[Big Cat]

What do you mean?

[PFT Commenter]

That he retires?

[Big Cat]

I think. I think he's going to have a conversation with Kelly. I think we need to get Jerry back. Back Listening to the podcast, staying informed about that. He's going to think about it. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got it. I mean, especially right. I mean, right after the. This season. It can't be fun.

[Big Cat]

I feel like he was so good this year and the Rams was so good that it will be tough for him to walk away.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, we'll see what happens. Do we ever get an answer on. On where the teams are going to be practicing leading up to the Super Bowl?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know if we did because we gotta keep.

[Big Cat]

We gotta keep the Seahawks away from that substation. Yeah, we have to. For America.

[PFT Commenter]

We have to.

[Big Cat]

We definitely listen. Do not let Sam Darnold within a mile of that place.

[PFT Commenter]

We can't.

[Big Cat]

His oblique's gonna burst through his stomach like it's the alien movie.

[PFT Commenter]

Is this oblique? Like, is that still what's going on?

[Big Cat]

He was wincing a little bit today. Not like Carson, but like, he was in pain today. And it was. It was pretty clear that it's still. It's nagging him a little bit. So we just got to make sure he stays away from that thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's a crazy fact, looking back at this, the 2018 NFL Draft for QBs was incredible. And Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen. We forget about Josh Rosen, Lamar Jackson, and Sam Darnold. And Sam Darnold's the first one to reach the Super.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Thinking about how many playoff games, you know, Baker, Josh, and Lamar have all played. Yeah. And Sam Darnold's gonna be the first one there.

[Big Cat]

It is pretty wild.

[PFT Commenter]

It's nuts. I think I'm very happy for him.

[Big Cat]

Is this. Is this year by Drake May. Is that the best second year starting? Well, I guess his season's not Over. Is it the best second year since Dan Marino? Yeah, probably.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, Dan Marino won the MVP that second year. And Drake May could win the MVP this year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Why do you ask?

[Big Cat]

Very similar players.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think that went to the super bowl, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If you look at this, if you look at that draft, I would say that Drake May is probably in the Dan Marino position.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Dan Marino went to that Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

He went to the super bowl second year. Pretty crazy. Hardly ever done that is nuts. Drake May did it as a 23 year old.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they were the same age.

[Big Cat]

Same age. Yeah. And similar stats, too. If you look at their touchdowns or passing yards, completion percentage, all that stuff second year, it almost lines up perfect.

[PFT Commenter]

You're a football historian, Hank.

[Big Cat]

No, I actually.

[Hank]

I said earlier I'm not. I'm a Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

But do you know anything about Dan Marino?

[Hank]

Terrible interview.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, it was. We should get him back on.

[Hank]

Yeah, we should try to book him.

[PFT Commenter]

For the Super Bowl.

[Hank]

In a van.

[PFT Commenter]

In a van.

[Hank]

And for the record, I actually have Dame Marino's back on that.

[PFT Commenter]

What being a bad interview.

[Hank]

He. We just walked him into a car in a parking lot with two guys dressed ridiculously, no idea what was going on, and squeezed him in the back.

[PFT Commenter]

Our fault, I guess.

[Big Cat]

No one else had a problem with it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Blake Portals had no problem with it.

[Hank]

He knew what he was walking in.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, he had no problem with it. True. Okay. Anything else from championship Sunday? What a Sunday.

[Hank]

What a Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, let me ask you a robot question. Robot question. R h o b a-k.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. I'm actually wearing a Roback hoodie right now. Very, very comfortable. Do you want to give us a score prediction very early? You can change it as the week goes on. We have two weeks until the Super Bowl. And by the way, we will do all of our super bowl storylines. Maybe starting Wednesday we'll hit some of them, what everyone's gonna be talking about.

[Hank]

So what I was alluding to earlier we waited for is that I didn't really have. I didn't really care either way on which team we played in the Super Bowl. There is no better feeling than winning your conference championship and getting. Just kind of relax and enjoy the second game. And no matter what, you're playing for the Super Bowl. So whoever. Whoever we play, we play. As the game progressed, I kind of came to the realization that Stafford, I Mean, Sam Darnold's great. No disrespect there, but Stafford is better and he's more experienced. He's been to super bowl before. He's won. I was playing out a scenario where the Patriots are up three or up four, you know, two minute drive. Which quarterback would you rather be going up against? And it's. It's Sam Darnold.

[PFT Commenter]

So you wanted Sam Darnold?

[Hank]

I wanted to. Sam Donaldson. Their defense is better, but I think the logic makes sense. I'm. And I think it will be a close game. I will go, I don't know. 28, 24, Patriots.

[Big Cat]

It's an interesting score that you put out there.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that the score of the Seahawks Patriots, super bowl last time?

[Hank]

I don't know. Was it?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't. You were there.

[Hank]

I don't remember the exact score.

[PFT Commenter]

Was. Was that the score? It feels like that was the score. Was that the score? Hank, you are.

[Big Cat]

It was 28, 25.

[Hank]

Oh, hell yeah. All right.

[Big Cat]

Did you know that? Yeah, I'm not sure you did.

[Hank]

I just wanted to hear you.

[Big Cat]

I think you just said it, and then you're like, oh, yeah, that's why I said it, because it's the score.

[PFT Commenter]

So you're saying, though, that you wanted Sam Darnold. That's bulletin board material.

[Hank]

Sure. Slap it up there, Sammy.

[PFT Commenter]

He's so confident.

[Big Cat]

You know, I got a funny story about Hank and Sam Darnold.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if I've told this on the podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, please. Story time with pft.

[Big Cat]

But this was at the super bowl last year down in New Orleans, and we went out for Josh Allen Knight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Celebrated Josh winning the mvp.

[PFT Commenter]

Had a great time.

[Big Cat]

Had an awesome time. We're very excited.

[PFT Commenter]

So geeked out.

[Big Cat]

And then see Josh Allen. We were all kind of going our separate ways at the end of the night, and Hank just kind of disappeared. And I was like, oh, I hope Hank made it home safe. And I called Hank and he responded. He picked up the phone. Couldn't really figure out what Hank was saying at that time. I was worried about him, and I didn't know where he was. And it was very loud and he was making all sorts of noises. And I was like, what's going on? I'm standing outside the party. And then who walks out of the party but Sam Darnold.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Leaving the Josh Allen party. And he was like, hey, pft, what's up? I was like, good to see you, Sam. He's like, are you okay? I was like, no, I can't find Hank. I'm worried about him. He's not making any sense on the phone. He's like, do you need me to help with anything? Like, can we try to find. Hey. He was willing to, like, go out and look for Hank with. With me. We were gonna go hit the town, find Hank, bring him home safe because we're concerned about your health. And then a car pulled up. He's like, ah, you know what? I actually gotta go. And so then he got in the car, and he's like, good luck with Hank. Hope he gets home safe again.

[Hank]

I started my whole entire thing by saying no disrespect. Sam Darnold, great guest on the show.

[Big Cat]

He was willing his life.

[PFT Commenter]

He's gonna find you golfer.

[Hank]

He loves golf. I. I love the. The video. You know, he did a bobdo sports video. That's great. He's.

[PFT Commenter]

He's great guy.

[Hank]

Did he.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Big Cat]

OJ OJ Really?

[Hank]

If he loved golf, he would have had a course on the island.

[PFT Commenter]

O.J. loved golf. That's.

[Big Cat]

That's a great point.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. O.J.

[Hank]

Loved golf dot O.J. love football.

[PFT Commenter]

So do we. Okay. But it is. Is loving golf, just like, that's.

[Hank]

I'm just giving qualities of why I like Sam Darnold.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, all right. Keep going. He also is going to find you.

[Hank]

Yeah, I was. I was fine. I was having a great time. But no disrespect to Sam Donald. This is where you guys lie and you guys do your middleman, whatever. Like, we just like to suck everyone's dick. Your team is up the. The commanders, and I know it's gonna be hard, but, like, picture the Bears or the commanders in the Super Bowl. Okay, you're up for the. The other team has the ball with a minute and a half left. One timeout. Would you rather be going against Sam Darnold? And. And you can't do the who's who. They're who, their players. They're equal. Equal teams. They both have equal wide receivers, equal offensive line, everything. So it's. They have the same level of talent around them, same level of coaching. Would you rather be going up against Sam Darnold or mass efforts?

[PFT Commenter]

I think Darnold today.

[Hank]

No, just their. Their overall.

[PFT Commenter]

Sam Darnold today.

[Big Cat]

Well, you have to say today. You can't say their career overall. Yeah, that makes no sense.

[PFT Commenter]

You're. You're. You're saying. You're thinking, okay, yeah, today, Jets, Sam Donald.

[Hank]

No, I'm not saying tomorrow. I'm saying Tomorrow. Both quarterbacks tomorrow.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, Sam Darnold could get a first down and get a touchdown when he needs to. Yeah. I think you also.

[Hank]

That wasn't the scenario. The hypothetical. You're ignoring the hypothetical.

[PFT Commenter]

I know. I'm saying today was awesome.

[Hank]

What about in the hypothetical? I just said?

[Big Cat]

Well, it's also fair to say, like which. Which team do you think that you'd have a better chance of being up for them?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Got it. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys, my answer is. I always believed in Sam Darnold, so my answer is going to be Sam Darnold.

[Big Cat]

Sam. Because he tried to help find you.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Matt Stafford.

[PFT Commenter]

And wait, whoa, whoa. Sam also loves golf. He loves golf, so I. Sam Darnold.

[Hank]

Okay, fair enough. We disagree.

[PFT Commenter]

You asked the question.

[Hank]

No, yeah, let's agree. Disagreeing.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't think.

[Big Cat]

You don't think.

[Hank]

That's the beauty of the show.

[Big Cat]

You don't think Epstein played golf?

[PFT Commenter]

Nah, Definitely.

[Hank]

I've seen those files. I don't see any pictures of him. I don't see any, like, pictures on the course. Yeah, yeah, right.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like he played golf.

[Hank]

You think those would show up?

[PFT Commenter]

Max is looking right now. Epstein, golf.

[Max]

I always get mixed up. I. I didn't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, everyone who's listening right now, we're, we're going to wait to make a final judgment on Jeffrey Epstein when we just. When we figure out how much of a golfer he was. Let's see his handicap before we, you know, really cast any judgments.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think if he did play Go, he's probably a executive course guy. Nine holes. The guy could never make it to 18.

[PFT Commenter]

We can't find any pictures. So he didn't play golf. Good point for Hank. Point for Hank.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, let's do national sports podcast talk and who's back of the week before we do that? Pfd. You had a couple more ads.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Do Mike McCarthy talk, we do have the NFL rigged graphic that is now going viral because the NFL official account posted a welcome to the season graphic. 32 teams with February dreams. We're so back. This was on September 4, 2025. Very long time ago. But if you zoom into the graphic, it's players from all 32 teams. And then right closest to the stadium is Drake May and Sam Darnold standing next to each other. NFL rigged. NFL so rigged.

[Big Cat]

Front and center.

[PFT Commenter]

NFL so rigged.

[Big Cat]

That's interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

Very interesting.

[Big Cat]

Now, have we, have we looked at the logo? How does the logo reflect the teams that are playing?

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like you can see any color in anything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, but I want to know how people are choosing to see it in this.

[PFT Commenter]

I would imagine. Yeah, it's. There's got to be some kind of subliminal message that we didn't notice at first. And it was always There. And we up. Not betting it.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

That feels like that's gonna happen every single year for the rest of time. Super bowl logo had something. Oh, I. Well, Max looks this up. Did you guys see the swaggy ref? Yeah. Who was that guy?

[Big Cat]

So that guy is awesome. I. I don't know who he is, but he's rocking the. The zebra fur coat.

[PFT Commenter]

Fur coat.

[Big Cat]

That guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Zebra fur coat before the game.

[Big Cat]

That guy's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

That guy needs to be reffing the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

I gotta see. You know how we always see, like, the. The tunnel cams of the guys going to the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Carrying their, like, bags and with their headphones and I want to see the ref center.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I want to see what they drive up and what they pull up, how they get out of the car if they, like, shake everybody's hand on their way through. Yeah. Give me that.

[PFT Commenter]

The super bowl logo we're looking at right now. Very uninspired. Oh, by the way, speaking of logos and everything and trophies, can we please go back to the old AFC and NFC championship trophies?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The new ones suck. I know they've been around for a while now, but they suck.

[Big Cat]

They.

[PFT Commenter]

Everything has been minimized and made. Like. I. It's basically everything has become an iPhone, you know, like, the world has become an iPhone, where all buildings and everything, stadiums all look at the same. I don't know what they're doing. They're. I'm sure someone could look into it and be like, yeah, they're actually making it so that we're in big brother, it's 1984, and we're all gonna just work in the same exact looking house and everything. It's severance or whatever it may be.

[Big Cat]

The game was at Lumen Field.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's true.

[Max]

The.

[Memes]

The.

[PFT Commenter]

The trophy, though, it sucks. Now they've ruined it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They're taking it away. The trophies used to be awesome.

[Big Cat]

The trophy does suck ass. The super bowl logos also suck ass now. It's almost like they. I don't know, they figured out what the most visually appealing font was.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, we're just gonna stick with this and run it back over and over again. You know why they need to go back to the old ones? Because sometimes they sucked.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And it's fun for us to look at a shitty super bowl logo and be like, this one sucks ass.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What the are you thinking?

[PFT Commenter]

But this is what they've done to every. I mean, it goes back to, you know, we need to start bullying. This. This specific.

[Memes]

The.

[PFT Commenter]

The trophies and the super bowl logo. Because remember, bullying did work with the NBA, which is the easiest bullied league by far. But with the Larry o' Brien trophy on the court, that was a huge mistake. Sometimes nostalgia is cool, guys. Like, we could do this. We can. We can have things still look like they used to look like. We don't have to make everything be all sleek. And it just sucks. It sucks. The trophies suck. Now, now, end of rant.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

Sick of it. Okay. Mike McCarthy's is Pittsburgh Steelers head coach. And boy, is that funny.

[Big Cat]

So listen, the Steelers had a clear objective with this hire. They were sick of getting to the playoffs and losing, so they hired Mike McCarthy to fix that. What's the issue here? What peop. What do people not see? Mike McCarthy. Experience coach, good offensive mind. If you want somebody to get over the hump, you go with Big Mike. It is.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, I think what probably happened was. Well, Art Rooney did say that they had three guys in. They had Mike McCarthy, they had Brian Flores, and who was the third? Who did they. Was it.

[Big Cat]

It was the guy from the Rams, Anthony Lynn. They also had the guy from the Rams Shield House. Is that it?

[PFT Commenter]

No, but I'm saying in person. I don't know if they had Shield House in person, but they basically. Art Rooney said, yeah, we had these guys in and we just, you know, we're really not. He said, we're really not worried about winning. The initial press conference about picking the coach we believe will help us win games and social media really doesn't enter into it, and none of that will matter once we're starting to play the games. The message for our fans is we're very excited. We think we have a coach who's well equipped to lead us into the next winning phase of Steelers football. And that's what it's all about. I think they're going to love Coach Mike.

[Big Cat]

Coach Mike.

[PFT Commenter]

Coach Mike. It was Brian Flores, Mike McCarthy, and Anthony Weaver.

[Big Cat]

Okay?

[PFT Commenter]

They sat down with those three guys. What I think happened was Art Rooney sat down with Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy is a Yinzer. I think his dad was a fire. Firefighter or police officer in Pittsburgh. Yinzer through and through. And they just started talking about Pittsburgh and he's like, man, I love this guy. Guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So I, I get that. And if you look at Mike McCarthy's career, he's coached for the packers, the Cowboys, and now the Steelers. Like three of the crown jewel franchises of the NFL. He appeals to old money.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's what Mike McCarthy does. He's he's like kind of the rapscallion, like a little rough around the edges guy, but means business when it comes down to it. I think they like having a guy like that around. And I also think that it would be interesting to see if this makes it more or less likely for Aaron Rodgers to come back.

[PFT Commenter]

I believe he might.

[Big Cat]

The Steelers and I really want to see that. This feels like that life cycle for Aaron Rodgers where it's like they, they butted heads for a while in Green Bay and then maybe Aaron Rodgers has grown and matured or taken the right combination of horse tranquilizer since then. And I was like, it's time for me to, like, we can move on. We can mend fences.

[Memes]

Right?

[Big Cat]

Let's get back together and finish what we started, Mike.

[PFT Commenter]

Right? Yeah, we can. We can go off in the sunset together. Yeah. Now the. There's. It's. I don't want to say that Mike McCarthy's a good coach. He is a good coach. But if you're a Steelers fan, you have every right to be upset. So much so that the Steelers actually hid replies on the official tweet. You never want to do that.

[Big Cat]

No, the replies were, that's athletics type stuff. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't be doing that. You can't, you can't. You're the Steelers. You can't be hiding replies or shutting off replies. It's. That's a crazy move.

[Memes]

Move.

[PFT Commenter]

But I get. Steelers fans have every right to be upset about this because it's, it's. He's a good coach, but it's the same thing. It's the same. You wanted something new, you wanted something fresh. You want a young guy, you wanted a guy who could be there for a really long time. You want to maybe get an offensive mind. So there was two tweets that I thought were perfectly, you know, set. They said they talked about this situation better than I could. One was from Brandon Carney, who said the Steelers firing a head coach named Mike, whose last super bowl appearance was in 2011 and has accomplished nothing of significance since then, just to hire a head coach named Mike, whose last super bowl appearance was in 2011 and has accomplished nothing of significance since then, is very Steelers. It's actually not Steelers. That's the crazy part, because it's like the Steelers always were. They have. They've had three coaches in the last 60 years, wherever it is. They hire a young guy, an up and comer, and then he stays there for 20 years. Mike McCarthy's in his 60s at the best. Mike McCarthy's going to be there for a decade at the best. Like, he's not going to be there for 20 years. The other one was a little bit more that glp.

[Big Cat]

He might. For a little longer.

[PFT Commenter]

True. The other one was a little more crash, but I liked it even more. It was from Bartolo's colonoscopy, Lakeview 487. He said, Going from Tomlin to McCarthy is like your pants and changing your shirt. Shirt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's a.

[PFT Commenter]

That's perfect.

[Big Cat]

Great way to describe it. I. I don't know if it's right, because, again, Mike McCarthy is a good coach. He's a. He's a good offensive coach and he knows how to do this. But I. I, too, understand how you would look for somebody that's like a very clear change of direction with the Steelers, and this is not that type of hire.

[PFT Commenter]

And then our very own jersey, Jerry. I asked him for comment, and he said, the Steelers are going to make me smoke crap back again, which is not good. We can't have that.

[Big Cat]

They don't like it. They don't like it at all.

[PFT Commenter]

But again, obviously joking. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's. I feel bad for Steelers fans. You did. You wanted something fresh and new and you got another mic.

[Big Cat]

Speaking of taking off your shirt when you should have taken off your pants, how about Fasoli?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Patriots super fan Fasoli.

[Hank]

Shout out.

[PFT Commenter]

Fasoli, dick down.

[Big Cat]

Just going straight pecker into six inches of white.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, if you think this is weird, we just should say that. For anyone who's saying this weird. He did yell Matt Collins before he jumped in.

[Big Cat]

He did.

[PFT Commenter]

So that's not weird.

[Big Cat]

Was he trying to say that yelling Matt Collins is like. Since Matt Collins grounds himself and. And goes barefoot everywhere he's going. Bare dick.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I love Fasoli. It was. I feel like my maybe. No, actually, he's not going to probably wake up and regret it that the whole world saw his grundle.

[Big Cat]

Not at all.

[PFT Commenter]

The entire world. 2.4 million views.

[Big Cat]

I don't really.

[PFT Commenter]

On his grundle.

[Big Cat]

I don't really know if this.

[Hank]

Rewatch it.

[Big Cat]

Was this planned?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right, wait, go back. Let's put on the sound. Put on the sound so people can hear it.

[Big Cat]

I want to hear the Mac.

[Hank]

It's always on Netflix.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Drake me.

[Hank]

Oh, I think he meant to take his pants off, not boxes.

[Big Cat]

He didn't realize he was naked until he was naked.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's like, wow. It's like he woke up, he was Sleepwalking and then.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. This upsets you. Sorry I screamed Matt Collins before I jumped. Yeah. So that's good to know.

[Big Cat]

It's fans.

[PFT Commenter]

We all saw his grundle.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Credit to Fasoli. He's a psycho. I'm glad that. I'm glad that people are getting to be exposed in. In more ways than one.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, he's. He's the best. He's just doing his job. Just doing my job. Okay. Do we have any other national sports podcasts?

[Big Cat]

LeBron knows that guy, actually.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. Fasoli's famous Hole the Internet Invitational. Do we have any other national sports podcast stories or anything before we do? Who's back? Anything? Patty.

[Hank]

Body. The body.

[PFT Commenter]

Patty. Did not. Didn't go well.

[Big Cat]

Did not go well.

[PFT Commenter]

Did not go well.

[Max]

But Patty can take a punch.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[Max]

That's a fact.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a warrior.

[Big Cat]

It was a great, great fight. It was a very entertaining fight to watch. Patty took a lot of punishment. Some would say he got poked in the eye. That. That changed his entire fight. Got poked in the eye twice.

[Hank]

The other.

[Max]

The other. The second time, they didn't even do anything about it.

[Big Cat]

And he got kicked in the dick. It's kept fighting. Gaichi. I question whether or not that kick hit his dick. I think he was faking the dick hit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And Patty, when he got hit in the. In the groin, he was just like it. Let's go.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

When he got poked in the eye, the doctor came over. They were looking at me. He's like it. Let's go. I'm not gonna complain about this. Gaichi played it up a little bit just to let people know, hey, I've got a dick. And I might have gotten kicked in it because it'd be. Maybe people would say I didn't have a dick if I didn't pretend to feel pain.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Hey, that hit my dick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but that was a. It was a great fight. It was a lot of fun to watch. Patty. Patty fought hard. Didn't get the result.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Hank. How was Derrick Rose night? You saw Joe Missoula?

[Hank]

Saw coach before the game. It's great to catch up with him. Wants to come back in the show. Celtics lost. Buzzer beater. Kevin Herder or not buzzer beater, but hit a three with basically no time left. It's a good game. They're coming off of back to back, so they're a little tired.

[PFT Commenter]

And it was Derek Rose night.

[Hank]

Yeah. I didn't even. I left.

[PFT Commenter]

I figured you did the whole thing afterwards.

[Hank]

Yeah, we got there early because I thought it was going to be early. Got to see, you know, the players and stuff, like, hanging out beforehand.

[PFT Commenter]

It's cool to see Tibs back.

[Hank]

It's cool to see Tibs back, Scalabrini, because he's the. He does the Celtics tv. So I saw him there. I saw him pre game, and then all of a sudden he was on the court with the team. I forgot he was on that Bulls team. Yeah, I saw Derek White in the tunnel. Flopped hard. Like, we were. We were talking for a second, talking about the game because he grew up in Colorado. And I was walking away and I was like, d. White night, not D. Rose night. And he was just like, what?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it was. It was. It was.

[Hank]

It was so bad. I shouldn't even tell it on the podcast. That's brutal, dude. So bad. Like, so bad. He literally looked at me, like, at first, he's like, yeah, D. White. Like, that's me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I was like, d. White, not D. Rose night.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, no.

[Hank]

And then it was like we were already. We'd already, like, dapped up and separating.

[Big Cat]

And then that was your goodbye.

[Hank]

So we just kind of drifted away.

[Big Cat]

It was bad. Brutal.

[Hank]

So, yeah, so it was a cool ceremony.

[PFT Commenter]

I watched it. It was. It was. It was very cool. I. My hatred for the Reinsdorfs aside and how they milk this, I'm happy for Derek Rose. He deserved it.

[Hank]

The lady next to me was a season ticket holder. She's like, michael Jordan's here. And then throughout the game, I was like, no, he's not.

[PFT Commenter]

He hasn't been to a Bulls game in, like, 15 years.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think the Rhinesters, they just hire people to sit in the stands and whisper that. So people over here, and they're like, oh, wow. Yeah, I heard Michael Jordan there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, it's. Again, we talked about it on Friday, but the rhinestones milking this because it was. It was different than last year. Last year I went. This year, all the guys were back, which was cool. That was. And Tibbs was back, and they. That was. That was a cool.

[Hank]

I felt so old because, I mean, I remember, like, Taj Gibson and the Wall Dang and Gooden. Like, they all looked so old. Brad Miller looked like a janitor. Like, it was.

[Big Cat]

It was. It was.

[Hank]

Brad Miller was very like, it looks like a 50th anniversary team. And it's like, no, this is like my favorite team on 2K.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, dude, I had that. So it was this. And then on Saturday, the badgers did their 20th anniversary for their national championship hockey team, which I was at that game in 2006 and I was like, man, this is like both of them back to back. I was like, jesus Christ. Yeah, I'm getting old and it sucks to see. Yeah, it was. All the boys were there. Where was Brad's in the back. He looks pretty funny, but yeah, it was. It was. It was cool to see Derek get his night again, but he just is nothing new with Derek. It's the right source.

[Big Cat]

Mm.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Who's back of the week? Should we do who's back of the week?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Hank]

Who's back there? Because Alex Honnold.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

He climbed 101 floors in China. Sorry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, There he goes. There goes communist Hank again. Giving up. Giving up proprietary information. Giving up. You just gave up the entire nation of Taiwan to the government of China. Congratulations, Hank.

[Hank]

Taipei 101 was the name of the building. Did an hour, 35 minutes free solo live on Netflix, which is crazy. It was. I watched a little bit of it. It was very, like, windy. I was uncomfortable watching it because it was so tense and like, I don't like scary movies. And this was like one of those Things where even though I will say the free solo documentary is one of my favorite documentaries of all time. And it was like, this seems insane, but if you watch that documentary and seen what he's done before, it isn't that insane.

[PFT Commenter]

It. But it is.

[Hank]

But seeing it live.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And just how windy. I. That was the thing that shocked me. Whenever they had the camera outside, it was like, how is he not just blowing off this building right now?

[Big Cat]

My hands are sweating right now. I tuned in for a little bit last night and watch this, and it just made my entire body hurt. Like, this guy. I'm out on Alex.

[PFT Commenter]

It's crazy. Out on him?

[Hank]

Why? Because he's one of the greatest athletes of all time.

[Big Cat]

He's a idiot. And I hated. I hated every second of it. As a person who's terrified of heights, watching him get up to those. What do they call the ones?

[PFT Commenter]

The.

[Big Cat]

Like the bamboo rings around it or whatever. When he climbed up that and then he put his two hands up and lifted himself around the statue.

[PFT Commenter]

What if he just slipped on that big ball at the top?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Then he stood up at the top in the wind for forever. This guy. I can't watch any more of it.

[PFT Commenter]

You're scared of heights.

[Big Cat]

I'm terrified. I'm. I'm sweating right now looking at it. All the credit in the world. All due respect, Alex Honnold, but I'm out. Yeah.

[Hank]

Very impressive.

[PFT Commenter]

Crazy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Crazy.

[Hank]

And he's just there. There was, you know, people in the building. Like, his wife at one was up, was on, like, the, you know, one of the floors, and he stopped and was kind of like, interacting with his wife inside the building while he's just climbing it. Like, that's. That's like out of, like a movie. It's like, oh, hey, honey, I'm climbing this building.

[Big Cat]

I can't see you later. I can't do this.

[PFT Commenter]

It's crazy. He's a nut.

[Big Cat]

This is insane.

[PFT Commenter]

Absolutely insane. Okay. Your who's back. Pft.

[Big Cat]

My who's back of the week is Robert Salah. He just got hired by the Tennessee Titans.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Be their head coach. Pretty huge. He's back as a head coach in the NFL. Congrats Congratulations to Robert Sala. Big news also. Scotty Scheffler's back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Scotty Scheffler's back.

[Big Cat]

Scotty Scheffler's back. Golf is officially back. Back so bad. And I think we got back Max had a great showing. New swing. Looks awesome, doesn't it? And then we got. We Got a new baby goat. We got a baby goat out on the range. Blades Brown. His name is Blades Brown. 18 years old, shot of 60 on Friday. And his mom, her name was. What was it? Rhonda Blades. Blades was. Was her maiden name. She is the first player in WNBA history to make a three point shot. That's her claim to fame. And then her son Blades Brown is just a beast. Shooting a 60 out there. He fell off a little bit on Sunday, but I'm excited to see what Blades has in store.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay. My. Who's back of the week is Philip Rivers because he interviewed for the head coaching job of the. For the Buffalo Bills.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That was awesome. So I saw this tweet. This is from Jason Fitz. He said instead of the Rooney rule, we need a loony rule where every single team has to do one crazy out of the box interview. I love this because we still have Browns have to interview Conoleezza Rice. Have to. Who else is up? The Bills should interview Pin o'. Ron. Like just have Pin o' Ron come in with his ketchup and his mustard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And just hand it to. Hand it to Pakula and be like, all right, you ready for my offensive plan? Spray this on.

[Big Cat]

Hose me down, daddy.

[PFT Commenter]

Hose me down. Who else is still available? Because the Ravens did hire Jesse Minter.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Would have been awesome to have Stavi be the loony rule.

[Big Cat]

Jesse mentor looks exactly like Nate Bargassi.

[PFT Commenter]

He does.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

He does. Who else is. Who else is still available?

[Big Cat]

The Cardinals.

[PFT Commenter]

Cardinals, like McDaniel, dude.

[Big Cat]

Cortez.

[PFT Commenter]

Cortez. Yeah. Cortez getting the interview for the Cardinals. Like have the looney rule. Just be we. I'd watch that. I'd watch Cortez get interviewed for the head coaching job.

[Big Cat]

And here's the thing, Chris Cinema.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's crazy. As crazy as the idea sounds, I guarantee you if you brought in one looney rule guy for every single job, you would at least glean something. Like if you talk to. If you sit down and talk to Pinto Ron and what he thinks the vision for the Buffalo Bills should be, you will get something out of that conversation that will help you going forward. Same with Cortez. Same with Stock.

[Big Cat]

Who should the Dolphins have interviewed?

[PFT Commenter]

A dolphin. Yeah, they should have gone and swam with a dolphin. Frank Fleming would have been an incredible interview.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean that.

[PFT Commenter]

Tell me that Stephen Ross interviewing Frank Fleming wouldn't be must CT tv. You just be like one day is all the, you know, put it on, you know, ESPN2 and they're like, we're going wall to wall Looney rule interviews.

[Big Cat]

I guarantee you, if they interviewed Frank, they'd have the boys out there doing walks in the summertime.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, they'd be.

[Big Cat]

They'd be trimmed down, slim, ready to roll. They'd also go back to the old Dolphins logo. Yeah, the one with the dolphin that was wearing a helmet.

[PFT Commenter]

I need the Looney Rule.

[Big Cat]

I need the dolphin. Here's what Dolphins should do. Bring back the old logo with the dolphin that's wearing the helmet.

[PFT Commenter]

It.

[Big Cat]

Except have the dolphin also be wearing a guardian cap. I think that would be.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be.

[Big Cat]

That'd be an excellent logo.

[PFT Commenter]

Cleveland Brown should interview the guy who ate the dog at the. At the Cavs parade.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, or Connie.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, or Connie.

[Big Cat]

She was at the game. She was there In Denver.

[PFT Commenter]

Partial owner for the Denver Broncos. Imagine Max being the Looney rule for the offensive coordinator job.

[Max]

I'd have nothing.

[Big Cat]

I'd have egged your house, see how you take it. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You show up with eggs, you're like, go ahead, Throw these in my face. I'll be fine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Who are you guys getting? I don't know. We don't know. No movement on that.

[PFT Commenter]

Speaking of which, Shane, are you getting cucked? I hope not, man. So Mike McDaniel has been said to be the new offensive coordinator for the Chargers. If he doesn't get the job in Buffalo, the Raiders, he. And the race out of the Buffalo. Oh, dude. The rate Chris angel for the Raiders head coaching job. Looney rule, dude. Chris angel doing mind freak in front of Mark Davis. He. Mark Davis. He would 100. Hire him.

[Big Cat]

John Tafford choice. Yeah, get him in there.

[PFT Commenter]

Holy. I need this. I need NFL. Have some fun.

[Big Cat]

Ball rescue.

[PFT Commenter]

Get the Looney rule going. Just one crazy interview for each head coaching job. All you got to do is you got to just give them a real shot. You're never going to hire someone from it, but we're going to get some entertainment out of it, and we can watch and we'll be like a PowerPoint from. Well, Chris angel wouldn't need a PowerPoint.

[Big Cat]

He is a PowerPoint.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he would just. He would just have a football appear, float. Levitating footballs.

[Big Cat]

If you get a witch in front of Mark Davis, he's like, I want the witch's powers.

[PFT Commenter]

Would that be illegal?

[Big Cat]

You can't let a witch walk out the door.

[PFT Commenter]

Would that be illegal if Criss angel was like, hey, I'll be your quarterback. I can levitate the football ball to the End zone.

[Big Cat]

No, I think Tom Brady would be in favor of that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That'd be so sick. Zach. Wait. Shane. So you're getting. I don't think so. I think we're gonna be okay.

[Max]

Hopefully.

[PFT Commenter]

But you have to admit it's a little weird. Oh, it's definitely weird. But like he's like a top candidate. You want to check out all your best prospects? I don't know. I'm. I'm trying to be confident with it. Okay. We sound really confident.

[Big Cat]

Isn't a good thing that. That might be your O.C. he's getting looks to be a head coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, for sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean as long as. As long as he signs, it'll be okay. But if I was. I always expect an Arthur Smith before everything, so just the possibility of Mike McDaniels. Better than that.

[Big Cat]

Arthur Smith who is hired at the Ohio State.

[PFT Commenter]

Ohio State.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach, who's your who's back?

[Zach]

My who's back this week is going to be 10 Bay Buccaneers legend Tom Brady. He took to Instagram today. Earlier today to remind us that he's all class. Before hopping into the booth, he posted the Instagram Big game, big watch. Hit us with the Patek Philippe aquanaut.

[Big Cat]

Is that a good one?

[PFT Commenter]

What is that?

[Zach]

It was. It's a timepiece. It was just. It was an all class move. I just want to.

[Big Cat]

What's the value on that?

[Zach]

If we are professional pocket watching podcast, it's at like 563,000.

[PFT Commenter]

Holy shit.

[Zach]

And it's just a casual before game. Like. Hey guys, stepping into the booth.

[Big Cat]

What's the most expensive watch that you can buy? Is it Richard Millie Automobile? Because I've got a business idea.

[PFT Commenter]

Brick.

[Big Cat]

You just make a really expensive watch.

[PFT Commenter]

Sell one.

[Big Cat]

No. Yeah, that's part of it. But you make a ten million dollar watch, you would definitely sell probably a dozen of those, right? Yeah, because I feel like. Oh, the most expensive.55. But I bet that's just like that one sucks. All. All diamonds. I'm saying like the one that's most widely available.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You make like a ten million dollar watch. Keep it in a safe in all the top of the line watch stores. Because I feel like most of the ones that I see they top out at like. Like a two million dollar watch is like the nicest one that you can possibly get. Right?

[Max]

This Patek is 3.31mil.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's a pretty good one. Maybe somebody thought of my business idea.

[Zach]

There's a guy, Jacob and co who does that. He. He. Now that he's back from prison for.

[PFT Commenter]

He got.

[Zach]

I think he went to prison because some. He got caught up with some stuff did pertaining to jewelry back in the day, went to prison, came back out, but now he just makes them all one of one and sets the price. So like he just puts like he'll just put like a roulette wheel on your watch and then be like, all right, this will be 4 million.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's sick.

[Zach]

There's a guy who does something similar.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach, by the way, congratulations. You finished second in our DraftKings live betting competition today. You were so nervous.

[Zach]

That was. That was. That was an awesome day. Matthew Stafford, feeling young today using the legs, boys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You were all over it.

[Big Cat]

Who finished second place in the part of my take betting contest?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, good point.

[Max]

That would be Max also finished first place in the.

[Big Cat]

So Max has to do the.

[Max]

Congratulations to Zach for finishing in second.

[Big Cat]

Max has to do the challenge.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Max]

Thanks, Hank. That's my guy. Shout out, Bobo.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I went two zero. Max went one and one. We. It was decided because I had the Broncos plus four and a half. Max had the Patriots minus four.

[Max]

For the record, we've been doing that. I'm. I'm excited.

[Big Cat]

It'll.

[PFT Commenter]

It'll be. It'll be fun.

[Max]

It's going to be a good stream with me. Me and Zach, we're gonn to, you know, do some fun things.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to do a few hours with you too.

[Max]

For the record, for the people counting.

[Big Cat]

At home, it's a lot.

[Max]

For the record, we've done this for four years now. The first year we did it. Second place and last place. Do the punishment. I came in second the next year.

[PFT Commenter]

Steven smells. Well, no.

[Hank]

Billion. Billion. Zach too. I mean billion. PFC.

[Big Cat]

Drove to the Super Bowl.

[Max]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And also you didn't finish the.

[Hank]

The boy.

[Max]

Oh, that was before me.

[PFT Commenter]

That was before stand up comedy year. You didn't finish.

[Hank]

Continue your point.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So you actually this.

[Memes]

And last year we only had five people, so we did just did last.

[Max]

We just. Well, whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

And that was Hank. Right.

[Max]

Last year we decided that we weren't doing second place anymore and I came in last.

[PFT Commenter]

You've had to be punished every single year. You've only been punished once.

[Hank]

Who came in second last year? Three times.

[PFT Commenter]

What are you talking about?

[Max]

About I. Three times.

[PFT Commenter]

What are the three punishments?

[Hank]

We, me and Max. Oh, no, that was for Rushmore Bowling hot dogs.

[Max]

Classic bowling hot dogs. Boucher party stream.

[PFT Commenter]

Forgot about the party.

[Max]

For some reason, we Just decided last year that that was the only one.

[Big Cat]

That was only five of us, Max. So your punishments have been going on a sick ass bachelor party and then having to eat like 10 hot dogs while you bowl, which is. Huh?

[Hank]

Didn't Jake have like eight hot dogs.

[Max]

And he had to eat more hot dogs? Yeah, because I came in second.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's right. And Max had a very good year. You finished final records, max. You were 25 and 18.

[Max]

Seems like some.

[PFT Commenter]

Some.

[Max]

Someone that should be punished for their picks.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I mean, I went 27 and.

[Big Cat]

16, so it's pretty impressive.

[Max]

Yeah, yeah, it's impressive.

[Big Cat]

As a pod, we did overall really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, ish. Yeah, I mean, we're over 500 total.

[Hank]

That's good.

[Big Cat]

That's really good.

[Max]

Very good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. But it was Max and I. Yeah.

[Max]

I mean, we were awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone else was either 500 or below, except for Max and I, which is crazy.

[Max]

Shout out to two of us.

[Big Cat]

Was I, was I exactly 500?

[PFT Commenter]

20. 20 and one.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Sick.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And I only got that one as a draw because you guys bullied me into taking a bad line.

[Max]

Yeah, that was great. Yeah, that was great.

[Big Cat]

A line that wasn't even on the books at the time. Even though every other bet. It's what you say when that line is on the books.

[PFT Commenter]

So Max.

[Max]

All right, here. There you go. Pft. You got that win.

[Big Cat]

You're a fair man.

[PFT Commenter]

There we go. So Max and Zach are going to stream.

[Max]

Yep. I'm doing 18 hours.

[Hank]

He's doing 36.

[PFT Commenter]

36 hours, Zach. We'll.

[Hank]

We'll.

[PFT Commenter]

It'll be a team effort. We'll hop in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I gotta get the tattoo. I'll do that on the live stream.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna get a new tattoo. We can maybe play some Dougs. That'd be fun. We try to win an Addie finally.

[Zach]

I think it'd be a good time.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Be a good time. That's really good attitude.

[Zach]

Yeah, I think it'd be awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

It's all about attitudes here.

[Max]

I started that off. It's going to be a good time.

[PFT Commenter]

I know, right? I'm saying, like, having a good attitude about it is.

[Max]

Zach told me he has a whole list of, of of ideas and memes. Told me.

[Memes]

I'm going to hate this list. He's got a. He's got a hall of fame list.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, give us one.

[Zach]

I don't have it on me.

[PFT Commenter]

Give us one memes. Give us one that you remember in you. I need it.

[Memes]

No, go get. Go get your List. There was a couple.

[PFT Commenter]

Go get the list. I want to hear a couple of lists. Just a couple. Just one. Just give us a tease and then we'll. We'll dive in.

[Max]

He's got to show me how to play arc raiders.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it's gonna be a lot of arc raiders. Gonna be a lot of arc raiders. Is that gonna be allowed to sleep? I don't think he needs.

[Big Cat]

Needs to. 36 hours.

[Max]

36 hours.

[Big Cat]

He's got to sleep for a little bit.

[Max]

He's got to sleep a little bit.

[PFT Commenter]

He might.

[Hank]

I'd eat one of Max's scabs to get a couple hours of sleeping when we streamed.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Hank]

Yeah, or toenail or something.

[PFT Commenter]

Actually, you know what?

[Big Cat]

Maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe the stream is just Zach goes to sleep and we don't set an alarm and just see how long he'll sleep. He could probably cover the whole 36 hours. Give us. Give us one. One idea.

[Hank]

You guys are gonna mukbang so hard.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're gonna mukbang the out of this. What's mukbang?

[Big Cat]

Eating. You just eat.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I knew that. It's a Doug Doug challenge.

[Zach]

One of them was just, pardon my 10K. Me and Max run a 10K in the booth. We went back and forth in the booth.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Max]

Yes.

[Hank]

Green light.

[Big Cat]

How many?

[Hank]

How many?

[Big Cat]

Now that you said it, what is that booth like? Is that 12?

[Max]

Why did you pick that?

[Hank]

Such a good idea.

[Big Cat]

None of these matter, though. It's an early list.

[Hank]

Good idea.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like eight feet long.

[Big Cat]

I think it's like a 12 foot booth.

[Memes]

You should have him read the whole list.

[Zach]

This is an early list. Max has.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? Wednesday. Wednesday show.

[Big Cat]

He's going to edit it.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, you cannot edit. He won't, Zack.

[Zach]

I won't edit if you tell me not.

[PFT Commenter]

I want you to add, but do not edit.

[Zach]

Yeah, I won't take anything.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so Wednesday will reveal the whole list. That's a perfect Wednesday activity.

[Zach]

I was going to run this list by Max before the list came out.

[PFT Commenter]

But no, actually, you know what? Send me the list right now. Email me the list. I will not look at it, but I want to make sure that it stays unedited. So I'll pull it up on Wednesday when you send me what you have. Do you have it on an email?

[Zach]

I can. I can put it on.

[PFT Commenter]

Put it on an email. Send it to me. I will not. Look, I will not open the email, but I want to have it preserved.

[Big Cat]

I think if you wanted to run a 10k in that booth, you'd have to run back and forth 2, 640 times.

[Zach]

There's some bad ideas on this list. Yeah, that's why it's a early list.

[Memes]

No, there's so many good ones, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You got this. All right, Wednesday, we're gonna do the whole list. Love it. Okay, boys, we're off and running. Super Bowl 60 is set. Seahawks, Patriots, we're gonna be in. In San Francisco in a week.

[Big Cat]

So happy for Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Congrats, Hank.

[Big Cat]

So happy.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to get some rest, dude. You got a big, big two weeks coming up.

[Hank]

Big two weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

Big two weeks. And make sure you stay healthy during this three on three tournament.

[Hank]

Yeah, I will do. It's big three weeks, actually.

[PFT Commenter]

Big three weeks. Well. Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

This week's big. Next week's big week.

[PFT Commenter]

Orlando's.

[Hank]

Orlando's big week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Huge week.

[Big Cat]

Rest up, Rest up.

[PFT Commenter]

Make sure you rest up.

[Hank]

I will.

[PFT Commenter]

No naps, though.

[Hank]

No naps.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't wait for your flight. He's gonna.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be. There's gonna be eyes. There's gonna be eyes on Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

He's gonna be hard for him to not nap on a plane.

[Big Cat]

And big cat's right. Stay healthy in the basketball thing. Yeah, Stay healthy.

[PFT Commenter]

Stay healthy, dude.

[Hank]

I love you guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yo, stay healthy.

[Hank]

Love you guys.

[PFT Commenter]

And we. No hard fouls. Stay healthy.

[Hank]

Love you guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Stay. Stay healthy. Okay, numbers.

[Big Cat]

If you went to the super bowl when you had like a 14, like, torn up knee, can you imagine that?

[Hank]

Seven be terrible. Jay and Taniels could have ever.

[PFT Commenter]

That was mean.

[Big Cat]

Okay. He had a sprained MCL.100.

[PFT Commenter]

George Kittle is. Has been golfing with his Achilles.

[Hank]

I've loved it. Yeah.

[Max]

Bryce Harper also just ripping the. The.

[PFT Commenter]

The mat. Yeah. Numbers.

[Big Cat]

7, 8, 80, 69, 66.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll go 6, 30. It's birthday week. Pft.

[Big Cat]

Birthday week. Let's go.

[Hank]

I got a great present for you.

[Big Cat]

Is it a gnome?

[Hank]

It's a round of golf. It's by glass.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it's more work.

[PFT Commenter]

46. 46.

[Memes]

Anybody? Anybody? Nope.

[Big Cat]

Love you guys. Love you guys. Love you guys. Love you guys.

[Hank]

You guys.

[Memes]

Hank.

[Big Cat]

I get to say love you guys. Sa.