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NFL Divsional Round, Bears Lose In OT, Bills Heartbreak, Patriots And Seahawks Advance + Who's Back Of The Week
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PFT Commenter
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
We got four football games left. And the Pro Bowl.
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PFT Commenter
And the Pro Bowl. What are they playing dodgeball this year?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
No, they're going to let some jackass podcasters try to call play.
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PFT Commenter
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's got that pulled up because I actually.
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Hank
The AFC championship.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, give us that. Give us that.
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Hank
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Take part on my take. Yeah, part of my take.
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PFT Commenter
Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, January 19th, and it's NFL divisional round. Whoop, whoop, whoop. Thumb spread. What? We're gonna start in Denver.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
We go to mile High Stadium, 5280ft right in your face like an orgy.
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PFT Commenter
At Rex Ryan's house.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
In the first quarter, the Bills drove down the field and Josh Mayor Allen Manson found the beautiful meal. The beautiful meal Hardman in the end zone to give Buffalo the lead. But Bo sir Nixalot sir said my arm is going to float one right to the arms of Frank Crumb. As the offensive tackle's big butt caught a touchdown. The Broncos hung around as little Jordan Humphrey Dumpty sat on a wall. Humphrey Dumpty caught a big ball to take the lead. And the Bills get the ball back in the end of the half.
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PFT Commenter
And Josh Allen with a whop and a whop and a fumble as the.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Bills take it and Will sluts scores easily in the second half. Nick Mojito laid it all on the lime and said, oh, let me run around this shaker. And even though you meant to pass, I'm going to simply disrupt your serving hand. But the Bills fought back as James Dane Cook got to be funny to shit on the Broncos coats and Keon Scholman dipped out into the end zone. The comeback was on as Josh found McCauley Dawkin Kincaid home alone in the end zone. But Harry and Marvin Mims drove down the field to take the lead. And until Matt, like a Prater, said, I'll take you there. We're going to OT in overtime. The Bills get the ball and Brandon Walker Cooks went fishing for a deep ball but was unable to complete the act of the catch. And Bo Colin Kaepernicks took a knee that might cost him his career as he breaks his ankle on the second to last play. Like Byron Russell, the Broncos win and New Orleans legend Sean Payton is back in the Mardi Gras mood as he can't wait to show America his skitties. Bronco 33, Bills 30.
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PFT Commenter
We then head to Seattle where Zach was on the scene. Zach, we go to Seattle at Lumen Centipede Field, where Brock had a purdy mouth. Now each for three hours. Rasheed Shaheed moonwalked his way into the end zone on the opening kickoff. The 49ers tried to crank that ball down the field, but Kyle News check Superman. That throw to Christian McCaffrey for a turnover. The Seahawks found Jack Jackson Smith Enjigmatism who looked like a blur running through the Niners defense. But the story of the game was Kiddis Brandon Walker who was the cow belt, I mean the bell cow running back who broke out from his role at Little Brother and in a contract year and we'll probably keep talking about the expiring contract non stop until March and told the Niners defense quit hollering.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The 49ers couldn't do anything resembling defense.
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PFT Commenter
With that injured unit and much like my good friends at Quiznos, they might be completely shutting down the Selle bar at the substation. Seattle all had speed at every position and Amherst, Hemingway Joe oh no. Stay in the pocket Zach. Come on.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Boom Joe, Boom.
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PFT Commenter
Take a sip of water. Boom Boom. Hemingway Jones was dead against Kenneth Williams playing with the violence of it. Come on, come on, come on. Plane crash and destroy TJ and then too soon Seattle 41, 49ers 6. I don't know what that too soon was about.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Too soon himself.
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PFT Commenter
All right Hank in Foxborough on Sunday.
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Hank
In Foxboro, Drake Slay May started things early, connecting with the Mario D D Douglas for seven. CJ had the Stroud boys standing up and standing strong after a 10 yard touchdown to Chris Charlie Kirk. Shortly after though, he had this the Stroud boys were sitting down after getting picked off by Marcus Mike Jones who went 281-330-8004 yards back for the score. Stefan Big Diggs proved he was worth every penny and had Gillette looking like a strip club after a titty, followed by K Sean Booty booty booty booty booty rocking everywhere, sealing the deal with one of the greatest catches in postseason history.
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PFT Commenter
Patriots win 28:16 we finish in snowy Soldier Field where Bearweather was looking to slow down Matthew Stafford and his Ferraris. The game started with the teams trading touchdowns from Kyron and Stimpy and Williams, Kyren and Stimpy, Williams and go DJ. That's my DJ Moore tied at 10 at half. The second half was a defensive battle as Jaquan Frisker prevented any bombs and LA's Jared universe laid the big bang over and over. Even devonte Adams this Eve was not eating good and couldn't expose the D who was guarding him well until one controversial catch Put them in the red zone. From there it was Tyron Williams who's having a good year and Treadley from the backfield wanting rubber match with Seattle. But not so fast. The Chicago Hares didn't turtle and had an ace up their sleeve and their fabled season stayed alive marching down the goal line. But like a crowded British pub, the lad was everywhere, stopping the Bears on a fourth and goal. But it's not over yet because after a short LA Hams possession, a poor kick from the punters put the Bears in great field position. And in 2025, bears fashion a miracle ball to Cole Kala proved they were they weren't going to go down get down so easily. And that's where I end the game. I choose to not remember the overtime. Rams win 20 to 17. And that was your fastest two minutes from the divisional round brought to you by our friends at Chevy Playoffs. Separate the pretenders from the football guys. It's win or go home and you need a truck that plays like it's on a rookie deal. Hungry, tough and ready to grind. Chevy Silverado doesn't take plays off. No drama, no contract holdouts, just pure grit. If trucks had stats, this one's leading the league in pancake blocks and yards after contact. So while your team fights to win the big game, make sure you've got the MVP of dependability in your driveway. Chevy Silverado built for the playoffs. Built for football guys. To learn more About Silverado visit chevy.com okay, divisional round in the books. We're doing it reverse chronological order. So we're going to start with the Bears Rams game and and then we will go backwards in time. We tape some of it before the Bears and Rams in the Patriots and Texans game. Rams 20, Bears 17. Zach memes and I were at the game. We're still thawing out. Fuck, that sucked man. That sucked because I don't know. I want to hear all your guys thoughts because you guys obviously were watching it on TV so there's just a different perspective. It was a game that the Bears were like right there and they were just felt like a few plays here and there where they couldn't get third and twos and fourth and twos and the defense played probably their best game of the season against an explosive Rams offense. Shout out. Bear weather definitely affected the Rams offense as well. But it was like the cornerbacks are, the secondary is healthy, you have everyone there, they're playing well and it just couldn't, couldn't get those couple plays and then you have the Cole Comet touchdown. Which the stadium almost collapsed on itself. It was so fucking electric. And I in that moment was like, I think the Bears are just going to win the Super Bowl. They're just going to. They're just going to pull miracle after miracle because that play was so dead. And Caleb Williams was. It was, it was. It was a video game. It was a Madden video game where you just drift, drift, drift, and then you throw it and you're like. Like it's. It's a rage quit moment for someone who's playing against that. He was on the 40 yard line throwing, throwing like going backwards. Cole commit, by the way, incredible play on that to. To not give it away that the ball was coming his way and get that separation at the last second. And then I was like, it's. The Bears are going to win the Super Bowl. Like, this is just. This is just what they do every single game. This is just crazy play after crazy play to the point where overtime happens. And I. I was convinced that Mavis was going to miss that kick.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And then the air. It was just the finality of it. The stadium, the sound in the stadium was so shockingly quiet right after that kick goes through. It was like. And you just hear. You could actually hear Rams players like talking and celebrating on the field because it got that quiet. It was an unreal season. And it just. It's a bummer that it ended like that because it felt like a winnable game. It really did.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It did feel like it was just gonna keep happening.
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PFT Commenter
It really.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Like the Bears were destined to have these kinds of endings to every game that they play in. Somehow come out on top.
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PFT Commenter
After the.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
After that catch, it was like, there's nothing that you can do anymore.
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PFT Commenter
It was so improbable.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
This is the Pope. The Pope is doing all this.
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PFT Commenter
And it was that. That play Specifically was the 2025 Bears season where it was if while you're watching it. It's dead, it's dead, it's dead. Everything's dead. Oh, my God. And then it was like, holy shit. That was. That. That worked. It was a touchdown.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I actually thought Ben Johnson did pretty good today. I thought that the Bears, I mean, especially on defense, the Bears had maybe their best defensive game of the season.
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PFT Commenter
It was finally having. We had, you know, C.J. gardner, Johnson was back. Kyler Gordon came back last week. Brisker played a great game. It was just like having all those dudes. And again, I do think the footing had a lot. I don't know if it came through for you guys. But the Rams just didn't look like they had the speed that they usually have. And, you know, not that Puka and Devonte are like burners, but it just. It. They were kind of moving in a little bit of slow motion, so it definitely helped. But, yeah, the defense was. Was lively all game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. It felt like the Bears have been playing Russian roulette with five bullets in the chamber.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
For the last, like, three months.
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PFT Commenter
I just kept on saying, we need another miracle.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It finally caught up to him at the very end. But, I mean, that last play of the game, of. Of regulation, I guess. The last Bears play of regulation, that's one of the most unbelievable throws and catches I've ever seen. The ball traveled 53 yards in the air. It was single coverage on Comet commit. Yeah. Did a good job not telegraphing it. The cornerback also completely misjudged the ball, but Caleb Williams made an outstanding throw. Considering he was just drifting back from, like, three guys that were 40, it was unreal. I. I thought that Ben Johnson called a very good game. I thought that McVeigh.
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Hank
This was like.
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PFT Commenter
I thought McVeigh called a bad game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
McVeigh called a bad game today. Everything that needed to happen for the Bears to beat the Rams, happen.
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PFT Commenter
Right. You guys tell me. But, like, I was. I looked up in the fourth quarter, and I was looking at the stats on. On the Jumbotron, and they had 10 runs. And I said out loud, I was like, I. The Rams, like, they. They are not like Stafford had 30 passes. The Rams had 10 runs. Like, they're. They're just not playing the correct game for this weather.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And then they started running the ball in that 14 yard or 14 play touchdown drive where it was, you know, the. The. It was runs. It was the Parkinson broken play on the outside, the devonte Adams catch, which I. Unfortunately, that was a catch, like, not a fumble. They just started running the ball, and it all kind of worked again. And it was like, fuck. They figured out that you just got to run in this weather.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It seemed like Matt. Matt. Not Matt LaFleur. It seemed like Sean McVeigh put most of his preparation this week into preparing for the cold. Yeah. Where they. I don't know if you saw this, but before the game, they were talking to the sideline reporters, and they said that the Rams put cayenne pepper in their socks to heat them up. And everybody was like, what the fuck? What's going on with that? Apparently that does actually work.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, wow.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
If you, like, sprinkle pepper and Baby powder.
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PFT Commenter
We should have done that because we.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It warms you up.
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PFT Commenter
The boys we didn't have. I didn't feel my feet after the first quarter.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Max, you have your seasoning rack in the car still?
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Max
What?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Okay. No, I didn't know if you had that.
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PFT Commenter
Answer the question, Max.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Don't worry about it.
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Hank
It's like a pimp my ride.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I got a kitchen. I heard you like food. So he put a kitchen.
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PFT Commenter
She drops down the glove compartment.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But yeah, apparently, apparently it does work. Apparently, like putting cayenne pepper in your socks works. And it seemed like a very weird game plan that he had. Matt Stafford didn't look great. Caleb Williams, I thought he might have hurt his hand in that first quarter.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, really? I didn't know that.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. So he banged. It was on Jared Verse or somebody else. There's a defensive player. And hit his hand into them. He was like shaking his hand for the rest of the game. Obviously something was going wrong there. I thought the only weird, the only ding against Ben Johnson because I kind of agreed with every time he decided to go for it. The results not always optimal.
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PFT Commenter
Well, the results of the first half actually proved to be correct in the fact that it was a fourth down in whatever three in the first. You know, the, the first drive on the 20 yard line. Went for it. Didn't get it. And then the fourth and goal from like the two went for it. Got it. Seven points is better than six if you had kicked two field goals.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, so I, I agreed with him for the most part on those. The, the pass that he threw to Theo Benedict.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
To me, my thought after that was, I think that is a play. That's a fuck you to the LaFleur McVeigh coaching tree because LaFleur tried to do that to Ben Johnson.
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PFT Commenter
Wait, was that. There was only one though, right? Because it was. It wasn't. He wasn't the main option. He. Theo Benedict was being reported as eligible multiple times on like multiple plays. Right.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But I think they only threw one pass.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, but I, I don't think that was his. I don't think that was the. I think he just like dumped it to him because he was like.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He wasn't the main guy.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I don't think he was because.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I saw that, I was like. That would be a very funny you to LaFlora. Yeah, I can, I can get my tackle to catch a pass in this game.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I don't think that he was, he was eligible a bunch of plays, but yeah, it was. It just sucked. It was. Oh man, it was so. It was such a winnable. I mean the defense was so good and it really did come down to I, you know, I obviously got to rewatch the game and just try to figure out what happened. But the Ozzy Trapillo injury against the packers and then the decision to move Tooney out to left tackle and McFadden was the guard who hadn't been playing all year. It felt like there was multiple times when we were in third and fourth down, short yardage, we just couldn't get run plays.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I thought. I thought McFadden played pretty well though.
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PFT Commenter
But it was like overall, like the strength of our team was like the, the. The middle of our line and we just, we just weren't. And maybe it was play calling. I don't know. It just. There was multiple. Like I think we had what, a third and two stop, a fourth and two stop. We had that goal line where we turned it over on downs where we couldn't. We ran the ball three times, couldn't get five yards. Like that was the strength of the Bears defense or offense this year is being able to run the ball between the tackles and get those hard yards. And also like DeAndre Swift, he's really good at cutting and what wasn't a field that you could cut on. Also the. I should say the Rams defensive line was phenomenal. They deserve a ton of credit. Not only stopping those runs, but up until late in the fourth they did an in incredible job of keeping Caleb Williams from using his feet because he was. There was multiple times where you could tell they were just had really good integrity on. On the outside and they have some fast dudes. Like there was verse. Verse ran Caleb down, which you don't see very often.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So they. Their defensive line was phenomenal tonight. I feel like that won them the game. And yeah, it just. I really thought after that commit touchdown, I was like, this is. It's just going to keep happening. It's going to keep happening. And the Bears and then the. The interception in overtime. D.J. moore ran one of the laziest routes ever. I don't know. I'd love to hear an explanation for it, but it just. It looked like. And that was such a situation where like you didn't have to throw it that far. So it's like everyone kind of deserves a little blame on it. Cole Comet I think was open on a check down, but DJ Moore, I don't know what you're doing there, dude. What are you doing? Yeah, it's crazy.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I thought that Calvin Nungai was awesome as usual, both catching the ball and, and running. He. He's just such a physical dude and he's. He seems like he's impossible to tackle. I. I thought this was a great game plan that the Bears had. I thought it was not Sean McVay's best game as a play caller. They ended up winning.
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PFT Commenter
But that's what's killer.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And it's because like it is credit to the Rams for winning that game.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Even though Sean probably would tell you that he didn't have his best game as a head coach.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Their defense just has a lot of dudes on it. A lot of dudes. And Matt Stafford, like. Yeah. There was that fumble that he had that he fell on. That was actually a great play by Stafford to cover that ball.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. The turnovers just didn't happen. Which I, I said this going into the playoffs. Like there was that other one where Train Evans almost was right there on a deflected pass. Stafford also fumbled in the first half and a Rams player fell on it right away. Just a couple. Yeah. It's hard to win a game when you don't. When you lose a turnover battle. What, three zero? I think it was. Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yes.
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PFT Commenter
Killed through three picks. It was just. It's brutal. I mean the first one was a fourth down play which I. He just another time. I thought that was the other lucky thing where it happened twice in the packers game. But the Rams defensive back picked off Caleb on fourth down and lost them yards.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And it's like, okay, this just keeps happening. But it was so. It was right there. It was such a winnable game. And it's just. The Rams were. Stafford didn't have his best game. But that throw to the sideline to Devonte Adams on the field goal drive in overtime was so fucking good. And it was like just an absolute dart. Sucks. Sucks. And it's. It's hard because this season has been so much fun. I think this is going to be one of those like kidney shot losses where I'm a little numb from. I'm still in shock that it like ended because like I said, I just assumed they were just going to have miracles, but it's like Tuesday's gonna hit and like, oh, fuck, we don't have.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
A game this week.
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PFT Commenter
We don't have a game this week. You know what I mean? Because I'm kind of just in this zone of like, oh yeah, we got a game coming up. And it was such a fun ride and the team just every single game felt like they were dead multiple times and kept on coming back. I mean, we could do big picture. I. I think that the. The future is so bright with Caleb and Ben Johnson. You got to fix some things. And you always. You never can say you'll be back here because that's. We know that's just not true.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But I thought. I. I thought, big picture, what was a weakness of your team this year? Your defense was not good.
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PFT Commenter
The defensive line. Actually, this game actually proved that if we had a healthy secondary, it would have been. Which would have been a strength going into this season. Jalen Johnson actually said during the week that he is still not even close to 100 because he had a core injury, which usually takes a guy out for an entire season. Yeah, he had surgery on it. So Jalen Johnson, if he gets healthy, Kyler Gordon, like, there's. There's guys that the secondary should be a strength again. And then if you can beef up the defensive line, maybe. Maybe you can be right back here. And I do. I mean, Ben Johnson is a phenomenal coach. Caleb Williams, the plays he made in this playoff, you know, two games were just insane. I know he threw some picks, but, I mean, three of them were on fourth down. And the dj, I don't. I don't think the pick in the overtime was his fault. I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I don't know how. Like, I'd have to hear from all sides, but I don't. DJ Moore just ran the laziest route ever.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I'm going to wait to see what Caleb Williams says. If Caleb says it was my fault, I'm actually. I'm going to mark that as a positive for Caleb Williams.
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PFT Commenter
Well, he did already say he's got to work on his footwork in his. In his accuracy. And like, that's the thing, is the little things still can get better. The big things are already there. You know what I mean? His. His. Wow plays, his. His chunk gains. All these things are such positives that happen in year two that if the little things get better, it's like, now we're cooking.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. And the defense, I thought that's something that it feels like they can build off of for next year. Brisker was everywhere.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, he was a monster.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Was everywhere.
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PFT Commenter
On the incredible blitz by Dennis Allen when he. When he came off the edge.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Dennis Allen loves that blitz.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Sound has been spamming that blitz for the last two games, and it keeps working.
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PFT Commenter
So, yeah, Dennis Allen coached really well, in the. In the two playo like he did.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You know what my other key to the game was why the Bears lost this? Why Puna Ford.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah, we mentioned him multiple times.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He had a puna problem.
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PFT Commenter
Dude, he's running in the middle. We had a shifted offensive line and running Puna Ford in the, like in the middle of the offensive lines. Not easy.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You had tree trouble going up against Puna Ford.
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PFT Commenter
Puna Ford was spending a lot of time at the Heater.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That's a guy that you can play off.
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PFT Commenter
He was at the Heater the whole time.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Was he?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And nobody's going. No one's going up to Puna Ford and be like, hey, man, can I get some?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, you're hogging the Heater.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The Heater.
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PFT Commenter
But yeah. I don't know. What did you guys think from watching on tv? I mean, it was just. It was so close and it was so winnable and I think you guys.
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Hank
Should have gone for two.
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PFT Commenter
I. So at home, I agree. At home, I don't know. I mean, the place was just like. The shock was insane. At home, you'd already run. The problem is you'd already run what is probably your best two point play on the fourth and two from the.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The.
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PFT Commenter
The possession before. And you also can't look. I mean, the Bears got the ball in overtime. Like they. They stopped.
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Hank
I was saying that in real time, though.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah. But they got the ball in overtime like they. They. They had the chance. It's not. I think maybe in old overtime rules I would have said yes. But the Bears defense was playing well. Like they weren't moving the ball on us.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That is a tough bounce back for that defense, though. You give up that play in fourth.
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PFT Commenter
Down, but you know what I'm saying.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Immediately go out there and you have to make a stop.
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PFT Commenter
But you know what I'm saying about. We already had done our best two point play, most likely, and no Colson Loveland, because I think he got concussed.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
On that drive, was. Is pretty. I mean, he is a. He's a two point machine. Like, he's the guy who can be a matchup problem everywhere. Yeah. I don't know. I don't blame him for not going for two, especially because you had the ball in sudden death. Like you stopped him, got the ball. You were 15 yards from field goal range.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I always feel like as an underdog, though, that's a good spot. If you're at home, it's like nobody thought you were gonna win. You Have a chance to win the game right now. It's hindsight and yeah, it worked out. You had a chance to win the game in overtime too. But yeah, in the moment we're like, do it, do it, Ben. Go for two.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. It's just. It was such a fun season. Such a ridiculous season out of nowhere and it's just the future feels so bright. I know these things are fleeting, but I do believe that Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams would be back there because it feels like, I mean we, we and. And not only that, like they, they did. Ryan Poles did kind of nail the offensive side of the drive. I mean Manungai and Colson Loveland and Luther Burton.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Or three guys on rookie, you know, rookie guys that are impact rookies.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Right away on offense seems like they went to Luther Burton a lot early and then kind of stopped.
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PFT Commenter
Well, there was. And there were so many drops. I.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That's so fun though.
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PFT Commenter
Like that.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That is a guy that is a problem in space no matter who you are.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I think there was. There was a lot of drops. It felt like on both sides and I think feel like that's partially weather.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
These guys were. They were struggling to like get their footing and run clean, crisp routes.
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Hank
I also think Rams or Bears are getting smoked by the Seahawks.
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PFT Commenter
Most likely. Yeah. I listen watching the Seahawks and we're going to talk about the Seahawks Niners game. Like watching the Seahawks on Saturday night. The thought definitely crossed my mind. That was like, I don't know how the Bears could potentially do anything against the Seahawks defense in Seattle, but you still want a shot. I mean the Rams have. The Rams have gone toe to toe with Seattle twice.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, this can be a great game.
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PFT Commenter
It's gonna be a great game.
- [26:50]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But yeah, hypothetically speaking, would you have rather lost this game the way you did or lose to the Seahawks by like 40 points?
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PFT Commenter
Probably lose the Seahawks by 40 points just because if the Bears had won this game, the Cole Comet touchdown would have been. It will still be like that was incredible. But you know, it doesn't. It won't get talked about the same way. Yeah, it will it. But how can you not in the stadium when it happens? We're like we're at the Cole Comet game. You know what I mean? Like that would be the Caleb Williams to Cole Comet would have been an all time play forever. What are you looking at?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
This is a clean shot by Max. He just keeps scrolling back to the. The Eagles commander's box score from NFC championship game last year. That's A clean shot. I deserve that. I made the spice rack joke.
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Max
I didn't mean to do that. That was actually memes. Memes just kept saying, scroll back down. Scroll back down.
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PFT Commenter
Well, I thought Max was doing it on purpose, but instead, he still doesn't even know what was shown.
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Max
No. Well, I'm getting mad because this guy cropped out. Jalen hurts to this picture.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That is fucked up. The Photoshop of the quarterbacks getting ready to go to the super bowl.
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Max
And they were like, last year we had. We had these great quarterbacks, and then he. And then he cropped any Photoshopped hurts out. This just showed up on my timeline. I got distracted and mad and wanted to read. So I'm sorry.
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PFT Commenter
Continue. That's okay. I don't really have much else to say. That I'm just bummed. But also, it's like a combo of being bummed but excited for the future. I don't know. It's a weird feeling.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It sucks that the season's over. It was. It was a very, very fun thing to watch this year. The Bears, like, listen, it took me probably about like six, seven weeks into the season for me to get over. Everyone's got a picture of the Bears in the back of their head.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And what Bears football is. And Bears football is very, very boring. No offense. Yeah, it's. It's a boring brand of football. Even when they're good, they tend to be a pretty boring team.
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PFT Commenter
Correct.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And they. They rely on a suffocating defense for the most part. And if you have games where you can run and not turn the ball over, you win those games. And in their best years, they were a fun team to watch, if you like defense. But they were not.
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PFT Commenter
Correct.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They were never exciting. This Bears team was probably the most exciting team in the NFL by far.
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PFT Commenter
I mean, they had seven. Seven comebacks in the final two minutes. This would have been eight. Like, they. Every game was must see tv. Every game was just, what are they going to do next? What, What, What, What. What way are they going to wiggle out of this one? You know what's weird? Because I went. It was memes, Zach and I and Eddie came with us. And then I brought to my friends, and at halftime, Eddie and I were talking about it. We're like, I. We're kind of nervous that it's tied. Like, not that you'd rather be down, but it was such a weird feeling to be like, we're tied, and I don't really know how to feel about how things are going and it just had. That third quarter went so fast. And you just said to yourself, we're now in this. This scenario, like playoff football, where, like, you can't make a mistake. Whereas the packers game, the mountain was so high to climb that you were just like, one play at a time. You know, one. Got to get the next play. Got to get the next play. This one was a true. It was so tight, like, you know, just always biting your fingernails, worried that one play can decide it. And one play did decide the interception in overtime.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, it's a bummer the season's over.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's going to hit me. I. I said this on Friday. I think I said it on the act. But we. We spent all week talking about bare weather. What's really going to suck is tomorrow morning when we wake up. When I wake up in bear weather and there's no bears.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, yeah. It's bull weather.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Zero degrees. Like this. Bear weather is no longer fun because it was fun to talk about. It really did have an impact on the game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Matt Stafford was wearing a scuba suit.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, he was.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's wearing a skin.
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PFT Commenter
I thought he was going to have gloves on. No gloves.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Jake felt wins that game in regulation. That's all I'm saying.
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PFT Commenter
That's true. Okay, so other funny things from the. From the game. We had. We had sign guy, which you guys saw. Mm, unreal. We sit down in our seats, and this guy in front of me just turns to me. He's like, hey, man, I hope this isn't gonna bother you, but I really want to get my sign on tv. And I was like, what? What? Okay. And his sign said, here, we'll put it. We'll put it in the video. I took a picture of him. He said it was on. I have it right here. He. He flew in from Hawaii, so he. He was left. Left Waikiki to see a Bears playoff victory. That was the 2C is crazy move. So here's what happened, though. So. So he flew from. Why we talked to him before. Nice guy. He was like, yeah, I flew from Hawaii. I was like, dude, this. It's gonna be cold. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm ready. He was not ready. He went and bought a sweatshirt at halftime, so that's an extra sweatshirt. He was. Memes pointed out. He was, like, vibrating because he was so cold. And he just. He didn't pull his sign out for the entire second half because he was so cold.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. So I saw the picture that Eddie put out of your view on one of the plays.
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PFT Commenter
Yes.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Where all you saw was the back of the sign.
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PFT Commenter
Legitimately happened.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I understand that. He wanted to. To get on TV with a sign that says, I'm from Hawaii. I'd like to be on TV at a Bears game. Did he know that they typically don't show the crowd during the plays?
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PFT Commenter
Dude, it was crazy. The first quarter, he was trying. Every time there was a break in action, he was screaming at the cameraman like, hey, hey, see my sign? But listen, Bear weather took him out. It was bare weather, some friendly fire. So dead in the second half. Yeah.
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Hank
He put.
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PFT Commenter
He pulled out that sign as the ball was in the air for a play. And Eddie and I were just sitting there like, are you serious?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
If you're leaving Hawaii, getting on a plane and going to Chicago in the middle of January, there should be an extra layer of security of a guy that just says, you sure?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You sure you want to do this? Yeah, I don't think you want to do this, buddy.
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PFT Commenter
That was insane. It was cold. Zach memes How.
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Hank
How.
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PFT Commenter
What do you. What was your guys report from the game?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Last thing on this guy.
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PFT Commenter
There was just at one point, the Bear scored that final touchdown, and he just, like, turned, and his face was just completely frozen. He was wearing a sweatshirt to start the game. He was wearing, like, a Hawaiian sweatshirt. Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Did you guys. How many strangers did you. High five after that, Kayla?
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PFT Commenter
Oh, I was hugging the guys behind us. Shout out the guys behind us. We were getting into big miracle talk. Hugging the guys in front of us.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I love. That's my. My favorite part of going to a big game like that is you. Just you. The people around you.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Become the best friends you will ever have in your entire life.
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PFT Commenter
Ever.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
For those three and a half hours.
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PFT Commenter
It was. It was that. That was such an incredible moment, and the stadium was. It was. It was just disbelief that that actually happened. And yeah, the. The whole.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
How.
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PFT Commenter
How'd you guys deal with the cold? I mean, it was cold. It was very cold. Zach was. It was freezing.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Big cat.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. I lost my feet at the tailgate, and I found them in your car.
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Hank
On the way home.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, it was unbelievably cold. Zach had not maybe the best plan for feet. And. Yeah, we. I didn't feel my feet for the entire second half. I thought triple socks would be good. Triple socks and tennis shoes. Not to play. You got to go with a thicker boot. They're just laughing at this guy's face. He's so, so cold. He's so cold. Dude, he was so cold. He was the coldest human on earth. I hope he's okay. Dude, it beat the sign out of him. He was. I can't tell you, Max. He had his sign out every. Every three minutes in the first half. We never saw the sign in the second half because he was so cold. I can't believe. Hey.
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Max
I can't believe.
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PFT Commenter
Die hard Bears fan. He was pumped, but he was just so funny. So cold. So, so cold.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I have a question for Memes. Memes. I saw the picture of you meeting Mike Florio.
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PFT Commenter
Yes.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Did.
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PFT Commenter
Yes.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Did you Turtle, or did you say something to him? I didn't say anything.
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PFT Commenter
He just said to me, he's like, is this a guy that hates me? Yeah.
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Max
I was like, yep.
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PFT Commenter
I forgot they hadn't met.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But you.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. You didn't.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You didn't say anything to him? You didn't take him a task about the jets reporting?
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PFT Commenter
No, he hasn't said anything in a while. Yeah. One thing about Flora and I love him. Dude wears a shitload of makeup.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Like crazy. He looks crazy about a makeup.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Has he lost weight? He looks good.
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PFT Commenter
He was going on tv, but still, it's always shocking to see another man in that much makeup.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Who else was on? We. We were. We were hanging out with Kyle Long. He's the fucking man. Obviously he was on Friday's show. Kyle did. So he and Frank Kaminsky, another friend of ours was. We were hanging out before the game. Kyle, his whole plan was he was like, I'm going to go incognito to the game. That's what he kept on saying. He's like. He was with his wife. He's like, I'm going incognito. He bought tickets in the 300 level. He was crushing beers at the tailgate. We look down in the third quarter and he's just on the field doing like the. The. The game break little ball toss games and just doing bear claws. And he picked up a kid and just like ran him down the field.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Also, Kyle is. Is the last person that can go incognito.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. No, he was a dude. He was a monster. Awesome. For him, it was first time he ever went to a Bears game as a fan. So he had a good time until he didn't. I'm trying to think what else was funny. Oh, we. When we left the game, it was obviously chaos trying to get out. And for a moment we were all together. And then I lost Zach. And you would have thought I lost my. My child because I just was Screaming in the, in a crowd of. Of Bears fans. Zach, Zack, just trying to find him because I was like, if we lose this kid, we may never find him again and he's probably gonna freeze to death. So that was scary. If I lost you guys, I wasn't making it back. I would be at the stadium.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, you're gonna be hanging out with the sign guy.
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PFT Commenter
There's a lot going on there. Yeah, he's probably good time. Bfd. Yeah, he's gotta thaw out some, but he's staying till Tuesday. He told me that was a bad call. I was like, dude, what are you doing? Yeah, Tuesday, you live in Hawaii.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Move that flight up, get the fuck out of here.
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PFT Commenter
But yeah, overall, awesome to be able to get to go to these games. It was so much fun until it wasn't. And yeah, Rams. I. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say other than it's just. It's going to be one of those. It's going to be one of those losses that. Yeah. Somewhere around Tuesday or Wednesday and be like, fuck, we really didn't win that game. And we really. We had the most miraculous play ever. And it didn't happen. But it just didn't happen.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I bet it's going to be crazy next week too, because the Rams against the Seahawks, I think they can win. I wouldn't be surprised if they won. I think it's about a coin flip. What's the spread on that game?
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PFT Commenter
Whose line is it anyway?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I'm going to guess.
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PFT Commenter
Do the DraftKings read Seahawks.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
By three?
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PFT Commenter
I'm gonna say Seahawks by two and a half. Oh, yep. Seahawks two and a half.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Okay.
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PFT Commenter
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Hank
Void in Ontario. Restrictions apply daily.
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PFT Commenter
Offers and requirements vary. Check out sportsbook.draftkings.com promos for more details. Anything else from the game. Thank you for coming, Zach and Memes. It was very cold. It's very difficult for them to get clips. I also think Memes clips just spammed after the game when he got service again.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I saw one that was like, you guys celebrating that Caleb Williams throw? Maybe? And it was, I think right after the interception in overtime.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, it was not easy getting clips out, but they were doing a good job. And it was. Fuck, man. It was right there. Right there. It's got to get. The home field thing is like, it just shows how important it is because I do think if you play that game in inside somewhere and I. This is where. I don't want to do a dome anymore. But like, the Rams offense probably would have. Probably would have had an easier day going.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think it's going to look a lot different against Seattle. Who has a better defense than the Bears?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But for some reason.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And we've seen these two teams play before and the Rams are able to move the ball. It's. Yeah. Playing in that great equalizer. Yeah. Of the cold, the bare weather, the snow. Why doesn't this. I feel like we're not getting as many snow on the field games as we used to.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Because it seemed to be snowing the entire time, but it doesn't. It doesn't accumulate.
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PFT Commenter
It was. It was like a flurry.
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Hank
The entire stadiums have heated like Gillette is heated.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
The snow doesn't stick.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I hate that.
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PFT Commenter
We need the snow to stick. Yeah. I also saw Kelly Stafford. Very nice. Introduced myself to her. Told her, hey, you got Jerry o' Connell once on your show, but that's it. Yeah. No Moss. No Moss. And I had a. A future to win. I was. Once the Colcomette thing happened, I was like, I have a future. Win a million dollars with the Bears. Like, it's actually gonna happen. I'm spending the money in my head. So that sucks. Okay. Should we do the other game? Yeah, let's do it the other game is Patriots 28, Texans. What was the final score? Texans 16. So I want to just say I'm gonna. I'm gonna let Hank and pft. You guys kind of take it away, because I did not see a play of this game. I saw maybe. What would you say? Memes, like, five or six plays. Memes was kind of walking around with it, and I would check in every now and then. Memes also was rooting so hard against the Patriots. He. I thought there was, like, a pick six at the beginning of the game, and it was just like a dropped pass because we were driving to the stadium. And he goes, oh, my God. I was like, what? Thank you for taking care of the pinky bet. I might have to retire the pinky bet. This one was a little scary. I talked to a doctor this. This week, and he was like, yeah, dude, I can't just cut off the tip of your pinky. So he's like, I legally cannot do that. So that would have been an interesting situation. So I didn't get to see pretty much any of this game. My only question then, I'll let you guys go from there. Was there a third and six?
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Hank
Oh, there was a third.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
There was a third and six. All right.
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Hank
Pretty much the most important.
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PFT Commenter
You had to have known. I. I did not know, dude. I didn't. We were at the top tailgate, and then we went right to the game. I didn't see the game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
There's 1 3rd and 6 in. In the entire game for Drake May. And we.
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PFT Commenter
I saw. Stat hole tweet. Okay.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yes. We were on the edge of our seats for this third and six. And if you missed Friday's show, we've discovered that Drake May is statistically the worst quarterback in the NFL over the past two seasons. And by. In the NFL, I mean anyone who's attempted more than 10 passes on third and six. So I think he's 34th or 36.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
In the league. And he. He has a 27 completion percentage. League average is about 50. And he got the third and six one time. It's the only flaw in this young man's game who is the future of the league. I think the future might be now. And he's going to the AFC championship game. Great player. Probably the runner up for the mvp, Most improved player on. Pardon My Take. The one knock against him is third and six. So he got to third and six once in this game. It was in, I believe, the third quarter, and it was a close game. I believe it was a one possession. Game at the time. Drake May drops back to pass strip sack. Fumble. Oh, Texans recover.
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PFT Commenter
I need that clip from the. From the gambling cave.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And listen, you, Hank, you can deny the existence of the third and six for Drake May.
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Hank
How can I?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I brought it up to help him, to help you.
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Hank
You did.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And I think this, if anything, I'm glad that happened because maybe it'll wake you up and it'll wake Drake up.
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Hank
I agree. Listen, no one. No one's perfect. You're always looking for ways to improve things that you can fix about your game. And Drake clearly has a big one that going into the AFC championship game, he can look at like, all right, third and six. How can I be better?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Right? Especially. He's been really good in the playoffs.
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Hank
No one's perfect.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's got four passing touchdowns. He's got two picks, six fumbles. He's been sacked 10 times. 89.7 pass rating. He's had a really strong playoff so far, and they've won. The most important stat. You know, I'm not going to say like 192 yards per game, which is a lot. Isn't the most important stat the most important set? Two wins and you're in the AFC championship game.
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Hank
Yep. One up against the best defense in the NFL. Hottest defense in the NFL. Three touchdowns. That's.
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PFT Commenter
That's like Tamiko Ryan's hot.
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Hank
Tamika Ryan's is hot. He was wet, too.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, he was wet and hot today.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So.
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PFT Commenter
Damn.
- [43:43]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So this game was. It was ass. C.J. stroud, little bro.
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PFT Commenter
Ass, little bro. That's where I put a period on it. Worried about my piggy. But also, CJ Stroud did not make me that worried.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He was the most ass he's ever been. Wow. It was that ass.
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PFT Commenter
And he's been asked before.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He was mega ass.
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Max
Horrendous. Like, not even just the picks. Like, missing every throw. Like, wide open receivers nowhere near him.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. And even the receivers, they were. I. I thought that the Texans came out looking really flat. They couldn't catch anything. CJ Stroud, on the rare occasion that he would. He would throw an accurate pass, they would drop it, and they were fumbling all over the place. It felt like.
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PFT Commenter
I don't know.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I. I don't know what the snow is all about up in New England, but it seemed like both teams were having trouble hanging on the football. Well, it's wet.
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PFT Commenter
Well, so how did.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Thank you, Hank.
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PFT Commenter
Blake portals taught us that a long time ago.
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Hank
Oh, I was just trying to fill in for PFT I don't know what part of the snow in New England confuses you?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Well, it snowed also in Chicago and the quarterbacks weren't asked the entire time.
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Hank
We talked about how the snow is affecting them struggling.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. But you agree, Hank, it was an ugly game.
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Hank
Oh, for sure.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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Hank
I mean, there's two great defenses going at it.
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PFT Commenter
Defensive battle was it. The Patriots played good defense. Ca sh was ass.
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Hank
I think Patriots played really good defense.
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PFT Commenter
And then Drake May, like, how did.
- [45:00]
Hank
He play when it mattered most? He played well. He was. He.
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PFT Commenter
I mean, I saw the booty touchdown. That was sick.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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Hank
He did enough to win the game. He had three touchdowns against an unbelievable defense. I call that a great game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, Stefan Diggs had a great catch too.
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PFT Commenter
The.
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Hank
Yeah, the dig such down and the booty touchdown were. Were 10 out of 10.
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PFT Commenter
10 out of 10. Okay. What else is this game really?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The story of the game was C.J. stroud was ass. I have to. I have to tell you, that's all anyone was talking about.
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Max
And Will Anderson was absolutely insane.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Will Anderson was crazy. He was getting at him the entire time. Drake May had four fumbles, lost two of them. And it never really felt like the Texans, even if they would recover a ball, it felt like they couldn't do anything. They couldn't move it. It was like, you know, we've seen this with the Texans all year long where their defense is the one mainstay, the constant. And occasionally the offense just doesn't do jack with it.
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PFT Commenter
Right.
- [45:55]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And there was a lot of that going on. Like people were unironically begging for Davis Mills.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I didn't. I just pulled up the box score. I didn't realize it was this ass.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
20 for 47, four interceptions.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And they're probably.
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PFT Commenter
And the Texans were winning this game at one point, weren't they?
- [46:13]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It could have been six. It could have been six interceptions. I don't know if the Texans.
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Max
The Texans could have won this. They could have won this game.
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PFT Commenter
It was up. They were up 10, 7. Pick 6. Then he threw another pick on the following drop. Jesus Christ.
- [46:24]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And it felt like every pass was about to be another pick.
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PFT Commenter
He.
- [46:28]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's got this weird thing. I don't think he had this his rookie year, but every time he takes a snap, especially in shotgun, he like leans forward like it's going to be a draw every time. And it always puts it. It feels like it puts him like a half second behind the pace of the play. But yeah, the Texans defense played really well until it kind of just kind of got away from them at the end. And Mike Vrabel, to his credit, Mike Vrabel called a great game in the second half. He was like, we're just going to run the football every single play and we're going to dominate them and they won't be able to stop it. And he was right.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah. I saw Charlie Batch caught a stray.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He caught a few strays. How?
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PFT Commenter
C.J. stroud has the best defense in the world and his regress to Charlie Batch. Then Charlie Batch said, how'd I catch a stray in this 4000 retweets. I love Chaz Batch.
- [47:15]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, he shouldn't be catching strays, that guy.
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PFT Commenter
Everyone was calling him Charlie Batch. That's crazy.
- [47:20]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The, the C.J. strad lookalike probably had a tough day online today. Yeah, his face was everywhere.
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PFT Commenter
Everywhere. Everywhere.
- [47:29]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, it was, it was an ugly game. The, the Patriots were clearly the better overall team. And yeah, I'm not going to say Drake May was bad. I don't think he had his best game. But he hasn't played. He hasn't played his best in the playoffs yet, which is actually a good thing. You only go up. I agree. And you're winning football games.
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PFT Commenter
Hank, now that we know so, so we're going to get to the other two games which again we taped earlier in the day so we didn't know the final score. Now that we know that it's going to be Broncos Patriots. Would you like to apologize for Bonix getting hurt? Sure. Oh, okay. That was actually big of you. I didn't expect you to do that.
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Hank
I mean, he's still hurt. He's not going to make him better.
- [48:11]
PFT Commenter
Maybe you don't know thoughts and prayers.
- [48:13]
Hank
I still don't know.
- [48:14]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Something, something's up.
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Hank
I'm not, I'm not gonna be convinced. Bonix isn't playing this game until Sunday.
- [48:19]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's got surgery.
- [48:20]
Hank
He was walking off the field like nothing was wrong with him.
- [48:22]
PFT Commenter
He was doing an interview where he didn't have any weight on his right foot.
- [48:27]
Hank
But yeah, I mean it's, it stinks. It is what it is. It's playoffs.
- [48:30]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
People get hurt.
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PFT Commenter
What are you gonna say to people who are like apologize for the. The easiest route?
- [48:34]
Hank
I will laugh. I, I love the cope. I love, I love the people that are upset about. Again, this is the AFC Championship game. The Texans had the best defense in the league.
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PFT Commenter
They were hot.
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Hank
You were worried about your pinky. You were talking about a doctor. So it's like I don't understand. People say you guys didn't play anyone.
- [48:49]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Can I step in and defend you?
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Hank
Of course.
- [48:52]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
As somebody who's. Who's bet on the Patriots through every round of the playoffs thus far and will continue to bet on them, you got an answer right in front of your face. It's like the Chargers have one of the best defenses in the.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, you played good defenses.
- [49:03]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The Texans have one of the best defense. The Broncos have one of the best defenses.
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PFT Commenter
By the way, if I'm a believer and you play who you play, you just. I'm just saying, you know, everyone's saying.
- [49:10]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You'Re thinking about the schedule. Don't think about the schedule.
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Hank
Yep.
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PFT Commenter
Max is very upset.
- [49:14]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think that I could care less.
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Hank
I mean, I love it.
- [49:17]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
If you take out the. The Chargers defense, the Texans defense, the Broncos defense, and then possibly the Seahawks defense. Yeah. That would probably be the best four defenses ever beaten in the playoffs. It doesn't matter that every quarterback that you play is either injured or sucks.
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Hank
It is what it is.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It doesn't.
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Hank
You play. I know.
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PFT Commenter
You're right.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Thank you. Okay, so, Hank, the only other stat that I'll. That I'll point out to you because you big cat, brought up the third and sixth thing. Who's your backup quarterback?
- [49:47]
Hank
The pastronaut?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Josh Dobbs. Josh Dobbs is 12 for 22 on third and six in his career. 55%. That's double the success rate that Drake May has.
- [49:57]
PFT Commenter
Bring him in.
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Hank
So that's good.
- [49:58]
PFT Commenter
He's in the room.
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Hank
He can help Drake.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Are you a fan of Drake Mayer or are you a fan of the New England Patriots? This is a trick question.
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PFT Commenter
Well, no, he's saying the team over everything, bringing in Josh Dobbs.
- [50:11]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Like, would you say that you'd rather die with no Super Bowls with Drake May as your quarterback than ever win a Super Bowl?
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Hank
No.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Okay, so you're. You're a fan of the team.
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Hank
Yes.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So if you can have double the success rate on a play, why don't you want that?
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Hank
I trust my coaching staff. If they're. If they're going to throw a Drake mate. Because again, you. There's only. There's always room for improvement.
- [50:31]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
A lot of room.
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Hank
Sometimes you just don't. I think the game plan is just don't get in the third and sixes.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That's a great game plan. Yeah.
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Hank
There's ways around it. There's ways around this little stat of yours.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It's not my stat. The numbers are what they are. True.
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Hank
No, I'm excited Mile High, too. It's like the. Everyone's just easiest path to Super Bowl. We still got a game to play. We've never won in Mile High in the playoffs.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, air. Gotta count for the air. Yeah.
- [50:58]
Hank
And the Broncos defense just pieced up Josh Allen and the Bills, they're not like, they're. Just because they lost a quarterback doesn't.
- [51:04]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Mean that much memes. What are you thinking? You're shaking your head and you're. You're holding up a hand like you want to smack them.
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PFT Commenter
What are you. What are you doing?
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Hank
What do you mean?
- [51:11]
PFT Commenter
What are you doing?
- [51:12]
Hank
What do you mean?
- [51:13]
PFT Commenter
Just say. Just say it. You're going to the Super Bowl.
- [51:16]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
No.
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Max
It'S Jarrett Stidham. Say that out loud.
- [51:22]
PFT Commenter
Jared.
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Hank
I. I call him Jared Stuttham when he was on the Patriots.
- [51:27]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Start him or stud.
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PFT Commenter
I say, you're going to the Super Bowl.
- [51:30]
Hank
He's a stud.
- [51:31]
PFT Commenter
Just say.
- [51:32]
Hank
Look at him.
- [51:32]
PFT Commenter
He's. He is. Like, have you.
- [51:34]
Hank
If you built a quarterback in a lab, it's.
- [51:36]
PFT Commenter
Jerry. Go off. Max.
- [51:37]
Max
Have you, like, started planning your weekend of, like, what you're gonna do before the game? Have you. Have you started looking at, like, the super bowl parties that weekend?
- [51:46]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, he's thinking.
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Hank
I mean, we're there every year. We know.
- [51:50]
PFT Commenter
Not for the weekend.
- [51:51]
Hank
I've been a lot of weekends. I know where. Where. I know where things are going on.
- [51:54]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Hank is pl. He's planning a nice victory Tuesday round at Pebble Beach.
- [51:59]
Hank
No, I'm going to Orlando the week after.
- [52:01]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Oh, no.
- [52:02]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, sorry. You're going. Wait, you already planned your trip to Disney World? True.
- [52:09]
Max
Wow.
- [52:10]
PFT Commenter
Holy.
- [52:11]
Hank
No, I will be in Orlando. I do need to find some places.
- [52:14]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
To golf, but, yeah, if anyone out there could help.
- [52:17]
Max
Help you.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah. No. No free shout outs before, please.
- [52:21]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I'll put it this way.
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Hank
Well, you guys brought it up.
- [52:22]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [52:23]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Hank, What I'm doing probably on Tuesday, I'm going to the bank, and I'm going to have to withdraw $50,000 in $1 bills.
- [52:31]
PFT Commenter
Man, oh, man.
- [52:33]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Because I'm gonna need to be able to pay that bet this weekend. I think I got to give him a couple days.
- [52:37]
PFT Commenter
Saying this bet actually is like. We all laughed. It's ridiculous when we. When you made that bet.
- [52:43]
Hank
But you know what the other thing you guys laughed about?
- [52:45]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I guess now. Good.
- [52:45]
Hank
Good segue. Best team on the podcast.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yep.
- [52:50]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I mean, I can't. I can't argue now.
- [52:52]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Can't argue with it. And I should have known better.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Max
Let's see.
- [52:55]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
If you.
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Max
I'm. I am currently a Super bowl champion.
- [52:58]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Let's see what you are currently.
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PFT Commenter
There you go.
- [53:02]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I should have known better because I've. I think I've been the. The leader on this podcast and giving Hank credit just for being a winner and having Winning championship DNA. And I. I was a fool to be like, the Patriots won't have a chance in the next five years, and with a path like this, you guys can do anything.
- [53:18]
PFT Commenter
And now Jared Stidham standing there trying to save you. He's.
- [53:23]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's my champion right now.
- [53:24]
Max
That giggle just tells you everything you need. Like it's you. You know, you're. You're there.
- [53:29]
PFT Commenter
Oh, it's a war.
- [53:30]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
In Denver.
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Max
It's Jarrett Stidham.
- [53:34]
PFT Commenter
Jared Stidham is a stud.
- [53:36]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What's Jared Stidham's record in Denver as a starter?
- [53:40]
Max
I think he's one in three.
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PFT Commenter
One and three.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I don't know.
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Max
In Denver, I think he's.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah. I don't know either. Let's see. Jared Stidham, I know he played two games.
- [53:49]
Max
He has eight touchdowns and eight interceptions.
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Hank
I don't think he's had a snap since, like, 2023.
- [53:54]
PFT Commenter
No, he hasn't. That stat you said yesterday.
- [53:56]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, there's.
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PFT Commenter
What was it?
- [53:58]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
There's. There's one quarterback this year that hasn't thrown one backup quarterback that hasn't thrown a pass, like a number two quarterback, and that's Jared Stidham.
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Max
He's got to be.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And there was only one number two quarterback that didn't throw a pass last season. That was also Jared Situm. They've just been saving him. Maybe this guy's life is over. He's got the freshest.
- [54:22]
PFT Commenter
We heard that.
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Hank
I mean, McDaniels knows his game, too. That's the other thing. McDaniels loves him.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. Does he coach defense?
- [54:31]
Hank
I. I don't know how it works, but I have to assume that it's like the chairs hit him.
- [54:36]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Is McDaniel's guy.
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Hank
Like, he. He knows him front to back. I would assume this is one of the situations where he gets involved a little bit. Or maybe they talk tonight or tomorrow before they make the game plan. But, like, I. I don't know exactly how it works in NFL, you know, teams, but if there ever was a time. He's not going to coach defense, but I would assume he's involved in the game planning for Jared Stumm.
- [54:59]
PFT Commenter
Does that make you nervous that your offensive coordinator believes in Jared Stidham?
- [55:03]
Hank
Yeah, I'm not overlooking Jared Stuttgill.
- [55:05]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You know what I would do if I were. If I were the Buffalo Bills right now?
- [55:08]
Hank
What?
- [55:09]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And we'll get to the Bills in a little bit. I would. I would fire Sean McDermott and I would bring McDaniels in for an interview this week and ask McDaniels how he would. He would have attacked that Denver defense. And then I would call up the Broncos and be like, here's what McDaniels wants to do to you.
- [55:29]
Hank
Yeah, that would totally happen.
- [55:30]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That's what I would do.
- [55:31]
Hank
Yeah. Nick Foles did.
- [55:33]
Max
Did body the Patriots on Twitter today too.
- [55:36]
PFT Commenter
What'd he say? It was so cold, we couldn't even take out our phones.
- [55:40]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He said, note for the Broncos and their fans. I know it's been an emotional 24 hours. I feel for Bo and the team, and I'm sending prayers for a strong recovery. A positive note going into the game versus the Patriots is that they struggle against backup QBs in championship type games. Oh, Nick Foles. That's. That's as spicy as Nick Foles will ever get.
- [56:01]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, spicy.
- [56:02]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That's him dunking it and teabagging you. Wrong.
- [56:04]
PFT Commenter
That was him being rated R. Yeah. Big time. All right, so you have everything planned for. Have you texted Dave?
- [56:12]
Hank
Nope.
- [56:12]
PFT Commenter
Being like, we going to the Super Bowl?
- [56:15]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
No. Have you texted Gaz?
- [56:18]
Hank
Nope.
- [56:18]
Max
Dad, has Gaz texted you?
- [56:22]
Hank
I mean, we were just weird.
- [56:25]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Have you texted a group chat that has both Gaz and Dave on?
- [56:28]
PFT Commenter
No. It's Fidelberg Mental.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Oh, by the way, Big, can you rule on something for me?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
All right. So, as you know, I bet heavily on the Patriots today.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I was a big PAT supporter. Do your pod. That's what we're talking about. Before the game, I tweeted out. What?
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Hank
Oh, it's during the game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Okay. So right after the game started, I tweeted out a video of Hank, the video that he sent to our group chat of him after the dentist on Friday, which was falling asleep.
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PFT Commenter
Can we put that video, please, into the. Into the show? Let's. Let's rewatch it right now. There's never been. No one's ever napped harder.
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Max
I was.
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PFT Commenter
It was actually shocking. Every other clip was just you napping. Knocked.
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Hank
I was given drugs to knock me out.
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PFT Commenter
This is not a nap. All right, so narrative narrator.
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Hank
Go back.
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PFT Commenter
You sent us a video, Hippa. All right, go back. Start it over. Start it over.
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Hank
All right. They gave me.
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PFT Commenter
I.
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Hank
My cousin drove me. I couldn't drive. They gave me medicine to take an Hour before the procedure started.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I get there.
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Hank
They're like, it's. It's. It's going to be longer than an hour or whatever. So, like, the drugs kicked in.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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Hank
And press play. I'm. I'm asleep in the waiting room. This is me, like, barely being able to walk into the thing.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, you pre. Drugged.
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Hank
That was.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Wheelchair, per doctor's notice.
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PFT Commenter
And I was like, no way he'll nap again. He's in a.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's.
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PFT Commenter
He just got out. He's fine. And then turn up the volume on this because this was funny. In the car.
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Max
Yeah.
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Hank
I think I'm holding the bag that they're talking about or that I was asking for.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Hank
Get in the car.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Sit.
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Hank
Car.
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Max
Thank you.
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Hank
Again.
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PFT Commenter
Asleep. Snoring hard. Dead.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You talk in your sleep.
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PFT Commenter
I don't know.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
My cousin.
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Hank
I wish he cut this off. I'm pretty much good. I don't say anything crazy. I'm about to sleep for 20 hours.
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PFT Commenter
He cut it off. I said, go, pats. And then it's you making a smoothie. Yeah.
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Hank
Because I said you have to have, you know, get protein in your system.
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PFT Commenter
How are you feeling?
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Hank
I feel better. I think adrenaline, kind of like Bo Nck was able to just walk off the field, skipping.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Adrenaline carried me through this game.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, no nap.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So Hank got very mad at me when I tweeted that video out. But Hank had sent that to her. Hank edited it.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And he sent it to our group chat. Like, it's not, like, one quick video where you're like, hey, I'm out of the dentist now. I'm okay. You did, like, an entire production did that. Well, you sent it to the group chat.
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Hank
It was a good video. Shout out to, oh, my cousin.
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PFT Commenter
He's a good job.
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Hank
It's just good. It's good to know where the line is on, you know, exposing the group chat. I will keep that in mind.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Well, you could say not forever.
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PFT Commenter
Like, Jerry does when he sends us, like, a journal.
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Hank
Know again, it's like sometimes I. I'm like, yeah, these guys are my friends. This is a funny video. And then I forget. It's like, no, this is gacha culture. This is every.
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PFT Commenter
Any.
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Hank
Anything you don't want out there, they're going to put out there because they know it's going to make you look bad. I will remember that.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I put it out there because I thought.
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PFT Commenter
No, no, no, no.
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Hank
I know why you put it out there.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Because it was such a good job editing that you did. And some people are like, oh, Hank can't edit anymore. Hank doesn't edit. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Hank
I didn't.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So whoever edited did a great job. It was a good production.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
No, trust me, I. I will not forget that.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Okay.
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PFT Commenter
No naps. No naps.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I was sedated.
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PFT Commenter
You're napping so hard.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
My favorite part of the no naps video is Hank saying, I'm gonna go fall asleep for 20 hours. And I did.
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Hank
I napped hard.
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PFT Commenter
He napped your ass off. Okay. What do you say, Max?
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Max
Never mind.
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PFT Commenter
What? Say it.
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Max
Well, you just said, no naps, and then you said, I napped hard.
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Hank
That's again, per doctor's orders. Naptard.
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PFT Commenter
What about Vrabel's orders? So Vrabel's more doctors.
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Hank
I was sedated. I. I couldn't. You can't. I couldn't fight the sedation.
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Max
Are there any patch injuries right now? Any surgeries or something? I'm sure those guys probably napped. I'm sure Rabel was fine with that.
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PFT Commenter
Did anyone get injured today?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think a player on the Texans got injured because CJ Stroud threw such an inaccurate pass.
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Max
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He had to go to his knees.
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PFT Commenter
And you need to re.
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Max
Watch this.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I'm actually being serious.
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Max
It's insane how bad I see the.
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PFT Commenter
Cut up of CJ Stroud.
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Max
It couldn't have. It couldn't have looked worse.
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PFT Commenter
I mean, I. Memes did update me a few times. The tailgate is like, Sierra shot sucks. He sucks. Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
There was a Sorry memes in the interview after the game. They asked D' Amico Ryan's about it. He goes, C.J. is our guy.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, you got the our guy.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's our guy.
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PFT Commenter
Our guy.
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Hank
Never good.
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Max
What were you about to say? What were you about to say?
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PFT Commenter
What?
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Hank
Nothing.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Say it.
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PFT Commenter
Nothing. No, say it.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You have to.
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Max
You have to say.
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PFT Commenter
Say the last thing before we.
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Hank
We go to the other gig into ourselves. I was going to get.
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Max
You're about to say something so cocky right now.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Say it. Say it.
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PFT Commenter
Say it. No.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Say it. I'm not paying you $50,000 unless you.
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PFT Commenter
You have to say it. No. Come on. Say it. This is a podcast for.
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Hank
It's bad juju.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Say it.
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PFT Commenter
Say it. Bad juju. Text it to pft. He'll say it.
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Hank
Bad juju.
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PFT Commenter
He'll say it.
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Max
Text it to Zach.
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PFT Commenter
Zach will say it.
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Hank
If the Patriots win on Sunday and then go to the Super Bowl. I think meme should come with me to do social.
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PFT Commenter
That is so mean.
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Max
That up.
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PFT Commenter
That's so up.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I agree.
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Max
Look at, look at memes Cuts yourself right now.
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PFT Commenter
That's so.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I agree.
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PFT Commenter
But the look on your face.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But with one addition, I think. I think somebody should go with memes to do social of memes as he's hating doing social.
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Hank
Shane.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, just kidding. Just your graveyard.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Hank is a green reaper knocking on every single door.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, that's so mean on this.
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Max
On the flip side, if the Seahawks or Seahawks or Rams win, that'll be your Super Bowl.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, that's true.
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PFT Commenter
True. Yeah. Imagine Sam Darnold.
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Max
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
The team that ruined his life, essentially.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Well, no, I mean, no, the mono.
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PFT Commenter
And the ghost were. Yeah. But the jets ruined his life.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Would you truly like to see Sam Darnold winning a Super Bowl?
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PFT Commenter
I think the jets had more of a hand in ruining his life for that stretch nose mono.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The Adam Gase.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Max
Adam Gase is the Jets.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Kind of one in the same.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, man. Okay, let's kick it to ourselves. We'll talk Saturday's games and we got some national sports podcasts and who's back of the week. Okay, before we get to Saturday's games, the world moves fast. Your workday even faster. Pitching products, drafting reports and analyzing data. Microsoft 365 Copilot is your AI assistant for work built into Word, Excel, PowerPoint and other Microsoft 365 apps you use. Helping you quickly write, analyze, create and summarize so you can cut through clutter and clear path to your best work. Learn more at Microsoft.com M365Copilot learn more at Microsoft.com Mike365Copilot okay boys, Saturday we're going in reverse chronological order. So we're going to start with Seahawks 41, Niners 6. What a beat down.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Game was over on the initial kickoff. It felt like that that Seahawks, Broncos Super Bowl.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Where it was an ass kicking from start to finish. And there we did get an earthquake.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Technically on the opening kickoff return by Rashid Shahid, I think it registered at like a 1.2, which is like a really big fart.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But it did technically measure on the seismograph thing. It was just. It was over after that. And then the Niners get the ball. Niners can't do anything with it. Seahawks got like three possessions in Niners territory to start out. It was just like it was nascar.
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PFT Commenter
It was an ass kicking. Yeah. And also the, the, the. On Friday we, we mentioned that the. The Seahawks have won 10 straight now 11 straight home playoff games with fans in the crowd and that was the perfect way to remind everyone how loud that place is when there are fans there, because it was an electric start. We also had Eddie Pinero with one of the saddest flags possible when he sl. He tried to slide tackle. And it's a kicker tackle. It was. It was so pathetic.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And. And that was basically the tone because. Yeah, you're right. Like, going into this game, we knew, okay, The Seahawks are seven point favorites. They beat. They beat him in week 18. They completely shut them down offensively. We knew that the Niners were going to have to play a near perfect game. And the near perfect game went out the window instantly. Not only with the kick return, but then the fourth down where they didn't convert. The Niners didn't convert on their. On their first possession with the. Was. It was the Kyle you Sheck running to the short side.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Which I still don't understand. That play. The Seahawks just completely shut that down. He pitched it to Christian McCaffrey where he was almost one foot out of bounds. It was way too late. Then it's 10 nothing. Then you have the next. The next drive, a fumble, 17 nothing. Game over. It was. It was that fast. The Niners had to play perfect. They didn't play perfect for any part of it. And the credit to the Seahawks defense and Kenneth Walker, who was awesome, unleashing Kenneth Walker now that Charbonnet might be out, because it did feel like that it was like, hey, this guy's really good. And it was a perfect game script for Sam Darnold with one of the weirdest injuries we've had in the fact that he didn't throw a ball for the back half of the entire week. Has an oblique. Everyone was freaking out. There was weird comments. Schefter was reporting that he hasn't thrown a ball. He's not in warmups, all this stuff. Well, you know what you. You can do for Sam Darnold? You can jump out to a 17 nothing lead and be up the entire game and have your defense completely rock the Niners. And Sam Darnold only has to throw 17 passes.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
This might be an unpopular take, but I think kickers should be allowed to trip. I think that they should just give him that.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Like, make the slide tackle if you want. It was. It was extremely sad. But, yeah, you're right. Kenneth Walker. The thing about the Seahawks running backs is Kenneth Walker and Sharbonnet are both really good. They're never really good at the same time, but Kenneth Walker was awesome last night. It Seemed like they didn't miss a step at all with Charbonnet out. And there was really. Yeah, there's nothing that the Niners could do. I think injuries finally caught up to the Niners. Yeah. There was nothing else that they could scrape together. There's no way that Salah could have fixed that defense good enough to a point where they can stop the Seahawks, especially if you're turning the ball over and giving them short fields.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It was just as thorough of a beat down as you see in the playoffs. The score, 41 to 6, I don't even think does it justice.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. And this is what the Seahawks are. I think they are the best team in the NFL and they have been doing this throughout the year in some of these games. It just happens that this one happened during a divisional game because, remember, there was a. I. I can't. There was like a game. Who. Who do they play? I mean, they've just been killing everyone. They killed, like, you know, like the Cardinals. Obviously, these games don't matter as much. You know, when the Max Brosmer Vikings game, when it was one of the worst offensive performances you ever seen. The Falcons, like, they've been killing teams all year. The Saints. It just so happens that a lot of those teams are bad. And you're like, oh, okay, well, maybe there's a chance. No, no, the Seahawks are this good. They. They. They play perfect defense. They have enough guy. I mean, Jackson, Smith, Najigba didn't even have to do much. Again, Sam Darnold, perfect game plan for him with his oblique. I don't. I still don't really know how injured he is. Yeah, he looked like he wasn't having fun.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
No, he was. He was.
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PFT Commenter
Threw it fine.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I don't think it's a fake injury. And some people pointed it as. As a fake injury when they. When they heard that he had an oblique and that he wasn't. You know, it was doubt. Or was he officially doubtful for. He was questionable for the game? Yeah, he's questionable because there's no probable designation anymore. So they wanted to say that he had an injury, but the fact that he didn't throw a ball Thursday or Friday tells me it was probably real because you would ideally like your starting quarterback to practice before an important playoff game like this. But if Sam Darnold had not set foot. Foot on the field and nothing else had happened in that game, the Seahawks would have won seven to six. Yeah, like, that's. The game was over after that first.
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PFT Commenter
Kickoff, maybe like 10 to 6. Just because they did get that fumble and then I. And then got a field goal off of it.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, maybe.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Like.
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PFT Commenter
But you're right.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But if the offense hadn't set foot on the field, the Seahawks still win that game.
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PFT Commenter
And it's not a knock at Sam Darnold. It's just, again, the perfect. It was the perfect game for a quarterback that has a oblique issue. And you think he probably is going to get healthier going forward. Kyle Shannon did mention that he fully expected him to play because Tordol is a hell of a drug, which they do use all the time. I know we were debating that the other time. I did reach out to a couple of our friends who are former pros, and they said they took a tortoise shot every game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Every single game.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, every game. So, yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Not great for the kidneys.
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PFT Commenter
No. But great for ball.
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Hank
The Seahawks, it was also funny when they tweeted, like, the QB one is entering the game.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
They had them both walking in at the same time. So Seahawks knew, like, they were not the way they were talking about before. They were not concerned about it.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Did you like, QB1 is entering the facility. It was just both of them.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Walking in.
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PFT Commenter
This was. This was such a blowout that maybe, you know, the best analysis I saw was, did you see your guy, Paul Pierce, about the game? Paul Pierce had two tweets from the game. The first one was, niners cooked, Purdue can't throw downfield and the sex. And the second was Minnesota had Daryl LOL and Lee Lee him go.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Is that written by Paul or were there some ladies over at the house?
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PFT Commenter
I don't know, but that was where this game. We had a drunk Paul Pierce having the best tweets out there. But yeah, it was. I. I don't know. Seahawks are just really good. And the Niners again. Yeah, great season. Incredible. You know, job by Kyle Shanahan. You know, losing Ton just to get like another substation injury with Tonjas. Christian McCaffrey said afterwards, that was the hardest year. I mean, they couldn't run the ball all year. They. They just didn't. They were trying to throw trick plays at them. None of them worked. We saw Mac Jones at the end of the game. It did make me think, was there a part of you, Max, watching this? And you're like, the Eagles actually go lower in the power ranking because this Niners team that just got demolished beat the Eagles in Philadelphia.
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Max
Yeah. Eagles sucked.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's like you, you, you, you go away from wild card Weekend being like, wow, the Niners, what a win on the road. I don't know if it was because Seahawks are just that much better.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, I mean, the Niners obviously, very, very flawed team. I think what we saw last week against the was that was the last gasp. That was like they put everything that they had into that game and there was absolutely nothing left.
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PFT Commenter
Did you see Brock Purdy? The stats they had, the. He ran 413 yards on 33 drop backs during the game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That's crazy.
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PFT Commenter
That's insane how much he was running.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
For his life, just scrambling, letting it fly, just trying to make something happen. They don't have anyone to catch the ball. They didn't have any way to run the ball against that defense. And the defense that they put out on the field was like missing probably seven or eight guys.
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PFT Commenter
And the Seahawks are just better and every way.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Seahawks are awesome. The Seahawks offensive line played really, really well last night. Everything about them, they, they are a very complete team. It's just about what Sam Darnold are we going to get. And sometimes you don't even need to get Sam Darnold.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. They put, if you look at it, they obviously the offense didn't have to do a whole lot for the Seahawks, but they basically, if you look at the stats, they basically played a perfect game. They scored 40 plus points, they rushed for 150 yards, they had zero turnovers, allowed zero touchdowns, had less than 10 penalty yards, scored a special teams touchdown. No. No other team in the NFL's history has done all that in any game, regular season or playoffs. Now that's obviously a long list of crazy stuff, but that's basically a list of, hey, we just played the perfect game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, it was perfect. It was.
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PFT Commenter
And guess what, by the way, Seahawks have the fourth most cap space going into the off season. That's pretty insane to realize.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Who are they going to get?
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PFT Commenter
I don't know, like, where do they go with it?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I don't know. That's. That's such a luxury that they have right now. Because if you were to say like, what is the weakness on Seahawks right now? What would he even be? Yeah, like maybe you could get a game changing tight end. Yeah, they've got good tight ends. But like what, what do you do with that money?
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PFT Commenter
And, and we, we've talked about, you know. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what you do with that money.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You just distribute to the fans.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, give it to the fans. The. So Kyle Shanahan. This is another crazy stat. I Saw Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, there it is. That's cap space. Next year. The Seahawks are four. And they change every. You know, they probably part of the reason or part of when you draft so well, you then have to use a lot of your cap space on. On resigning the guys.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Right. Because JSN's still on his rookie. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
There's a bunch of things that will. Will shake out that they will probably not go into free agency with the top four cap space because they have a lot of good players. This is a crazy stat as well. So. Kyle Shanahan has coached in the NFL for 163 games. He has had his team be held under seven points. How many times? If you had to guess three.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He did.
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PFT Commenter
It's four. And two of them are by the Seahawks in the last month. That's crazy.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, it is nuts.
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PFT Commenter
That's nuts. And again, they're injured, but still the Seahawks defense has put the Kyle Shanahan Again, to reiterate, 159 out of the 163 times he has coached an NFL game, his team has scored more than seven points. So the other four, two of them have happened in the last two weeks, basically.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So you have a Seahawk problem.
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PFT Commenter
He might have a Seahawk.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He might have a Hawk problem.
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PFT Commenter
He might have a Hawk.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I'm looking at the upcoming free agents for the Seahawks.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They will have to replace some guys or resign some of their own guys. Kenneth Walker, unrestricted free agent. Reek Woolen, ufa, Kobe Bryant, Mafe. They've got some guys they'll need to resign. But the bottom line is the Seahawks are very, very well rounded, very complete team right now. And the fact that they have Shaheed, who everybody thought like when they got him in that trade mid season, it was like, look out. Yeah. Because I can't wait to see what the Seahawks do with. With. With Sheed's skill set. And he didn't really do that much in the regular season. No, but that's. We saw last night. That's why you get him.
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PFT Commenter
Speed kills fast as they even had Village Jones in the play. And I was like, what? Yeah, I couldn't believe it. They just say, felix Jones. What do the Niners do? Just roll it back? Move.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. Invest in the. The aluminum suits that you wear after a marathon.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Build a giant metal wall.
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PFT Commenter
It. It was because it was like last year was the year where it was like, okay, maybe they have to retool everything. And then they put together this year where they were playing for the NFC west title.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Week 18. They have a, you know, a. Still a very good core, but I don't know.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Guys are getting older, so this will be interesting. I don't know what the plans are for the teams going into the Super Bowl. Is anybody going to practice at the Niners team facility? And if they are offered that practice space, do you say no?
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PFT Commenter
No, I think you have to say.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think you got to say no.
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PFT Commenter
I also feel like they wouldn't allow either team to practice there anyway because it's right next to the stadium. I feel like that's a competitive advantage maybe. Yeah, right. They're gonna. They're gonna have, like, San Jose State and, you know, other local.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Colleges give up their fields.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They're gonna be so many reporters out at that substation.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, the substation will be a big story of the Super Bowl. Yeah, absolutely. Okay.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
This was like, okay, Niners, objectively terrible way to end your season last night. This was a great season for them. Yeah, this was a great season.
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PFT Commenter
They didn't expect.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They didn't have Brandon Iuk. They. They lost everybody. Injury.
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PFT Commenter
I know Mac Jones played for.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
A significant portion of the season. Fred Warner was gonna come back next week.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
One of my favorite parts of the game was Fred Warner started. Started the game last night up in the booth, and then he came down on the sidelines, and I think Tom Brady said, now they know Fred's here. Now they know they got to be on.
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PFT Commenter
They got to do it.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They got to be on business because Fred's on the sidelines now. Yeah, it was. It was never going to work out against the Seahawks team. And I'm very happy for the people of Seattle Dead. They've had a rough go of it recently.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
In sports. In their sports fandom. But this team is special. It feels like this team is now the team to beat in the NFL.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. It feels like they're the best team. Like. Like top to top to bottom. It's. The question is just Sam Darnold, as always, and if they can. Can play like this and their defense can play like this. Sam Darnold doesn't have to do a ton to. To win a Super Bowl.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I'm also pumped to see an NFC championship game in Seattle.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That crowd is going to be fucking crazy.
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PFT Commenter
The kickoff was a reminder like, oh, I forgot how loud the 12th man really is. Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
We'll have to get a dome report from Spencer Hawes. I'm sure he's gonna go.
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PFT Commenter
Absolutely. All right, let's go to the AFC game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Picture this. It's Monday morning. You open your laptop. Outlook hits you with 87 unread emails. Your calendar looks like a game of Tetris played like a toddler.
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PFT Commenter
Your boss.
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PFT Commenter
Broncos 33, Bills 30. Let's do this in order because I feel like we could get lost. There's so much to talk about with this game. Let's. Let's go, Broncos, Bills, refs. Okay, I feel right. Yeah, it sounds good because I hate. The one thing I hate about how this all went down is that it was an all time game. It was just while we were watching it, you had that feel of like the set, the third quarter into the fourth quarter, like this is a unbelievable playoff game. And then to have it all be the conversations refs after sucks. So let's talk game, Bills, and then, and then we'll go refs, where do.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
We want to put in Tony Romo?
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PFT Commenter
Tony Romo. We could start off the top. I thought I was on drugs watching this game in the first half.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I thought that I was watching a man. I, I tweeted out, let's give Tony Romo some credit here because he doesn't. He does a phenomenal job announcing games that he absolutely does not care about. Like he does not give a anymore. And to do that, to be able to, I'd say hit it, 85% strike rate is pretty good. That's pretty impressive. But Tony does not give a anymore. There was that drive in the first half where Josh Allen reached out for a first down. Clearly, like we saw what happened on the field, he was short of the sticks. They get up, they run the QB sneak. Yeah, he gets the first down, then he's got the ball. They hand it off and Tony Romo was like, like, now you put yourself in a dangerous spot here running the football. It's like, what are you. What are you talking about, Tony?
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PFT Commenter
That's when I was like, am I, Am I. Did I get laced with something? Did someone slip something in my drink? Yeah. Am I watching the right broadcast? What's going on?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What's going on, Tony? And then on the next drive that the Bills have, he called Josh Allen Mahomes.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Which is. It's crazy. What is.
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PFT Commenter
What.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What's Tony Romo doing?
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PFT Commenter
Have you guys seen this trend that's going around on Twitter where people just tweet nonsense sentences all mashed together with weird words and stuff? It's supposed to. You start to read it and you're supposed to get, like, almost instantly confused.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
These words all are real words, but they don't line up. That's how I felt listening to Tony Romo. Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It felt like you're having a stroke.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. I was like, I'm so confused right now. I don't know what's going on.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. The calling Josh Allen Mahomes thing was. Was bizarre. But I do think that that is a deep part of Tony's psyche, that he loves Patrick Mahomes so much that he thinks every quarterback is now a Mahomes. It's like him and Collins worth. I could. I could see Collins worth doing that too. Yeah. So, yeah, that. That's the Tony Romo thing. I do think he did make up for it a little bit. He had some good insight that he put out there. Later.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, later.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So start.
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PFT Commenter
So the Broncos, hell of a win. It felt like at times in this game that the Bills were just significantly better than the Broncos. And it was just that the Bills kept on turning the ball over. But that Bo Nicks drive at the end of the game, down 27, 23, when he goes, you know, four minutes left in the game and he goes 73 yards. Making big pass after big pass was awesome. And they, you know, it felt like they were on the. As much as they were in control, especially at the end of the first half, it felt like they were on the ropes kind of the second half after the Bills mounted their comeback. So for them to sustain and be like, hey, we're okay. Play defense, take the ball away. Even though they were getting gashed at times, they took the ball away in big time moments. That was a hell of a win. And then an hour after the game, we find out that Bo Nicks broke his ankle on the second to last play of the game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Which is such a bummer.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It's a big time bummer. When Sean Payton came back out there, he, he ended his press conference. He was done talking to the media, and then he comes back out for a secret surprise second press conference. And he was like, yeah, I miss talking to you guys so much. I want to just let you know because we just found out Bo Nicks is going to be. They had all the information. It's like Bonick's fractured a bonus ankle on the second to last play. He scheduled his surgery with this one particular doctor in the state of Alabama.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They had like an entire treatment plan planned out for it. And then you go back and you watch the play that it allegedly happened on and it's just, it seems like a regular football routine play that he might have aggravated when he took a knee.
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PFT Commenter
And apparently he has broken. He's broken. He's had this type of injury twice before in high school and in Auburn.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Now, if you're a Broncos fan, I have a very good friend, one of my best friends, a Broncos fan. He was mad that Sean Payton said this right after the games. He was thinking like, wait till Tuesday for game plan purposes. That probably doesn't really change game plans, but I do actually think there's a, a very fair point if you're a Broncos fan to be like, hey, Sean Payton, could you wait just so we could celebrate for one night?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Could we have one night where we go out to the bars after the game and have an awesome time instead of just dropping this on our head immediately after and bumming us all out? Yeah. He did kind of steal it.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He ruined that part of it.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
For sure. I. In terms of the game plan, I don't think that you're gonna. Game plan like, well, okay, now we gotta, we gotta put, we gotta reinstall our defense because it's gonna be steady.
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PFT Commenter
Right. You would have found out on Tuesday because they would had practice reports and Bonix would not have been there.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Right. That's the other thing. When he said that Jared said him was going to start because he's been their guy. He knows the system. Initially I think we were all like, oh, fuck. Well, congratulations to the Patriots or the Texans, whoever wins that game. But then he referred to him as Stitty.
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PFT Commenter
Stitty.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And Stitty. I feel like steady can get you a playoff win at home. I might be on board the itty bitty Stitty committee.
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PFT Commenter
I. Dude, the way that Sean Payton was talking about Stitty. Yeah. And if you look at what the, the, what happened when Sean Payton got to Denver, I think Jared Stidham might have been his very first free agent signing when like free agency, the first day of free agency, he signed Jared Stidham. And then Jared Stidham was the backup to Russ for a couple years and then guess what? He gave him another contract.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So Sean Payton is saying, like, this was always the guy I wanted to be the backup. I believed in him enough that I went out and was like, there's a million guys. You can get his backup. He's like, no, I want Stitty. I think Sean Payton's got something with Stitty that we don't know about.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I also really, really trust Sean Payton. Yeah, like, Sean Payton is a very good football.
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PFT Commenter
I feel like the running the ball yesterday was, was a very weird setup because the Bills defense was not good against the rush and they, they only ran one handoff in the fourth quarter. Yeah. And they're, I mean, I think, I think both their guys, I, I gotta look it up. I think both their guys were averaging five yards of carry and they only ran it, it like 10, 15 times. So Sean Payton. But maybe this is, maybe this is better to have stadium. You could run, you know, you could run the ball a little bit more. Yeah, they 10 runs. McLaughlin and RJ Harvey had 10 runs. So McLaughlin was 5.3 yards per carry. RJ Harvey was 3.3. So they weren't running the ball that well. But it was interesting to not have more of a emphasis on the run game when they were up in the fourth quarter against the Bills defense. That can't really stop the run.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So we're on record. We're, we're team Stitty. We think Steady might be able to get it done.
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PFT Commenter
I think City might. I, I don't know if City can get it done. All I know is Sean Payton loves Stitty. He might be a city. Like, there might be something with Stitty that he we don't know about yet.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
There's something about Steady.
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PFT Commenter
There's something about it.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. I, I, I'm going to trust Sean Payton and, and I'm going to think that he can cobble together a game plan that, that minimizes Steady's possibilities for mistakes.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Max, you gonna Steady?
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Max
No, he's gonna suck.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's gonna suck big old Stitties.
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Max
Patriots are just gonna have the easiest path in super bowl in NFL history.
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PFT Commenter
Well, we're recording this before the game, so it could be either or. We already talked about that. Yeah, we already talked about we had a break.
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Max
We don't Already talk.
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PFT Commenter
We did a really good job of not that up. And then you just had to. Because you just. You're mad. I'm not mad, Jared. I'm.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Dude, I'm just saying you sound mad. I. I thought the biggest concern for the Broncos yesterday, the Bills were just running the football up their dicks in the first half.
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PFT Commenter
It was.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It was pretty bad defense from a team that's been really, really good all season. Then when they were able to kind of get at Josh Allen, really, the. The fumble at the end of the first half by Josh. That's bad Josh. You get bad. You have to know that you're going to get bad Josh. That was about as bad Josh as you'll ever see in the playoffs. And then to start the second half, the sack fumble, not really on Josh, more on the protection, kind of pushing the edge rusher. Was that Benito that had that set?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that. It was the. The last minute of the first half and the first minute of the second half that basically cost the Bills the game because it was a 1010 game. And Bo Nix makes a great touchdown pass to make it 17:10 with 20 seconds left. I do not know what Sean McDermott is doing in that situation. I guess, like, it's. It's both Sean McDermott and Josh Allen. Josh Allen. You can't run the ball there because the. The half's over. You're not going to run for the. The half's over.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Well, you can run, but just don't get. Just don't get tackled like a fool.
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PFT Commenter
There's no reason to run.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I know there's no reason, but, like, it does.
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PFT Commenter
So don't run.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It does happen a lot. And I don't know if he was thinking, maybe I get downfield and we can try to get one more play to get in the field goal range. But the. The way he was holding the ball was like, what are you doing, Josh?
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PFT Commenter
But situationally awareness, like, don't run the ball there. Don't eat. Don't. You know, the minute it gets bad, just give yourself up and go. And go live to fight another day.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And then.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. So it goes from a 10:10 game, which, with 30 seconds left in the first half, to all of a sudden it's this, you know, a minute into the second half and it's 23:10. You're like, what just happened? So let's talk about the Bills, Josh. You know, the turnovers were bad. You can't. You can't. You can't say, like, it was. It was a Big time Josh Allen game in the fact that the good plays were wow plays and the bad plays were like, fuck, how did this happen? And. And he just, you know, the fumble was bad. The. The first pick, the second pick's really not on him, which we can talk about when we get to the refs. The play where he had Dawson Knox at the end of the game, that's a touchdown. That's probably a touchdown. That's probably game over. You're playing in the AFC Championship game and he missed that throw and it sucks. I feel awful. Like, I can, I can do. I can say Josh Allen, you know, had plays in that game that cost him the game, while also saying, I feel really bad for Josh because obviously we love him. And it's just, just. You saw it on his face after they've just been banging their head against the wall over and over and over, and it sucks for them. And he knows that he has to play better.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Without Josh, they're not in the playoffs. They don't get there. They're not driving to win the game at the end of it. But he also has a lot of responsibility on this loss. And it's one of the first playoff losses that the Bills have had where you can say, yeah, this is, this is kind of on Josh Allen, that they lost this game. There was a lot of discussion. Actually, there have two been two discussions that have been going on in the last, like, 24 hours regarding Josh Allen. One is whether or not America is going to have a conversation about Josh Allen. Is America going to have this conversation? Because. Should we start the conversation about Josh Allen?
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PFT Commenter
Sure.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Okay. What's the conversation about Josh?
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PFT Commenter
I don't know. Okay. All right. Hank.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Hank, do you know what the conversation is?
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PFT Commenter
Hank. Hank can lead it.
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Hank
Is he ever gonna make it to the Super Bowl?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Getting old.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. I have a. I have a fix. Well, maybe not the window.
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Hank
How open is the window?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think the window question. I think you got to start asking a different conversation. We should have a different conversation before we have the Josh allen conversation. Okay, McDermott, how long are we going to give McDermott? And we like, we like being their GM, but I think it's fair to also say, like, hey, man, are you just never going to get Josh any receiving help? Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Or. I mean, this was, this was the, the, the other part of this is this is the worst Bills team of this last, you know, five year run because they were just defensively not very good. But it also was the most wide open playoffs. Josh Allen would have Been the best. He was the best quarterback remaining. And now that. So it feels like a wasted opportunity. I think it's. I think you have to move on from Sean McDermott. I don't know. I. It's not that he's a bad coach. You can't keep doing the same thing every single year. You can't keep losing in the playoffs every single year this way and expect things to change. You just have to say, hey, thank you so much. I mean, the Bills in the last. So since 2019, when they started going to the playoffs with Josh, they are 83 and 33. That's really fucking good. And they also, in the last six years, the Bills have scored the most points allowed, the fewest points, have the best record, and have a point differential of 902. No other team is over 600. They have been an incredible team, and they don't have anything to show for it. And I. You're not going to get rid of Josh Allen. It's kind of like the Lamar Harbaugh situation.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
You're not going to trade Lamar Jackson. You're going to get rid of John Harbaugh. I think you have to do the same thing here. I also saw a stat that was kind of shocking, which I never really put together, but I'm going to pull it up right now. It was from Josh Dubois, AP at Josh Dubo, AP. So there have been 36 head coaches who have won a play. Super bowl. Of the 32 that were hired in the super bowl era. So it's like, not counting Vincent Barty, who was hired before the super bowl era started, even though he won a Super bowl. Of the 32 that were hired in the super bowl era, this is the years that they won their first Super Bowl. Four of them won in their first year with their team, eight of them won him in the second year with their team, four of them won in the third year of their team, seven of them won in the fourth year, five of them won in the fifth year. And then you go six, seven, eight, there's just one in each of those. And then Bill Cower won it in the 14th year. What it basically is saying is, if you don't win the super bowl with your new team in the first five years, historically, like it says, the odds are against you.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, I get another stat from that same guy.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So the Bills are the first team ever to win a playoff game for six straight seasons without winning a Super bowl in any of those seasons.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So it. It does speak to.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, Sean, I think leads the. I think he now is number one. Most playoff wins without a Super bowl appearance.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. And, and I think Sean McDermott, like you said, is a very good head coach. But if you're the bills under Sean McDermott, you, you have now reached the point where you pencil in an extra sad loss every single January. Yeah. And you expect that to happen now. It's in the back of your head. You know it's going to happen. You know it's going to come. I don't know what he does for the messaging this offseason. If they came back, like, if it hasn't worked for the previous six years. I don't know what you do going into the seventh year. And it's, it, it does feel like it's probably time to go a different way. And I think, I would imagine that almost every single team in the league would take Josh Allen as their quarterback right now. Yes, almost every single one would. Josh, after the game, he was emotional. Zach, you're a cry guy. You've cried on camera recently.
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PFT Commenter
Big time cry guy.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What were, what was your analysis of Josh weeping on camera after the game?
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PFT Commenter
He wasn't holding back whatsoever. Those were, those were real pain in those tears. It's got to be just insanely frustrating. Like he, this one, this was the first time, like you said, pfd. This is the first time that Josh Allen has not. If you look at his stats in, in, in big playoff games. He's played games like the 13 second Chiefs game. He played a play perfect football game. There's games where he has not been the problem. This was the first time where he said I let my team down. And yeah, there's he. The four turnovers are really hard to overcome. And it's like. And again it's, it's not like taking away blame from Josh Allen to say that Sean McDermott should, should be, they should move on from him.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
It's just that you aren't going to get rid of Josh Allen. Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Will Josh Allen win a Super Bowl? I say yes.
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PFT Commenter
I hope so.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think that he will.
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PFT Commenter
I'm rooting for him hard.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Oh, I know the conversation. Okay. This is a conversation that America. I don't know if they're ready to have yet.
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PFT Commenter
Yet.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But we should have it. It was a thought starter from Mackenzie Lozano. She works at barstool. She produces macrodosing. She's a die hard Bills fan.
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PFT Commenter
Oh yeah. This was not a great.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I'd rather die with no Super Bowls with Josh Allen as my Quarterback than ever win a Super Bowl. So let's discuss.
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PFT Commenter
No.
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Hank
No.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You wouldn't rather win a Super Bowl.
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Hank
Love Josh.
- [93:59]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Then die with no Super Bowl.
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Hank
Yeah, yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Embrace debate.
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PFT Commenter
I.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
If it's not with Josh, she won't be as happy.
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PFT Commenter
It is.
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Hank
Do you think Bill's fans are watching the games today?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think they're prob. They might be going football.
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PFT Commenter
You're so mean, Hank. I genuinely was wondering that.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It sucks for Bills fans that they've had this window where the Patriots finally stop being dominant in the division. They owned your division for how many years now is.
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PFT Commenter
Six years.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Basically six years. Obviously, this year the Patriots won the division. But. But the Bills have been the force, and it coincided with the Patriots dynasty taking a dip. And now the Patriots are back in the playoffs winning the division, and people are asking if the window is over for Josh Allen.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's. It sucks for Bills fans. Josh Allen's own three now in overtime games in the playoffs. It feels like every year it's just. And again, I think the worst part, watching this game because no wide or, you know, a decimated wide receiver core, a defense that was leaky. You walk in this game being like, hey, there's a version that the Broncos are just better. They weren't. The Bills looked like the better team for big portions of this game. The turnovers, you know, told the story.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And. And. And then the other story was the refs and the catch. Non catch at the end of overtime. So the good news is, if you're a Bills fan and you're coping with this right now, you do have just an insane amount of screen grabs that you can just go, we talk about this all the time come playoff, that if you're going to lose, if you can at least get some screen grabs that you can just fight online about for the next week. No, it's a. It's a. It's at least a consolation prize. Not a good one, but at least something.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
There are some incredible screen grabs that you can take from that catch where he's on the ground, he has possession of the ball. The Broncos defender is like two hand touching him down.
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PFT Commenter
Jaquin McMillan.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I. I would say that this is even a better screenshot than the one where it was against the Chiefs where it looked like Josh got the first down. Yeah, I think that this is.
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PFT Commenter
Now, this might be the number one screenshot of all time.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
This is number one in your arsenal of reasons to be pissed off at the NFL. So Brandon Cooks catches the ball, goes.
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PFT Commenter
To the ground does he?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Well, he did catch the ball. We don't know if it was a catch.
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PFT Commenter
Got it.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But there. What. He did catch the ball, right?
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Hank
Balls in his hands.
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PFT Commenter
The ball was.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The ball was in his hands, which some people would call a catch. That's not the NFL rule. But the ball was in his hands. He goes to the ground. Ball still in his hands as he hits the ground. The ball gets dislodged on the ground. And the cornerback for Denver. What's his name again?
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PFT Commenter
McMillan.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
McMillan rolls away with the ball before the ball touches the ground or before, I guess Brandon Cooks makes an act common to the game of football. And then they do the most convoluted review process ever that America didn't get an insight into. That's. That's the problem.
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PFT Commenter
I think that's the biggest issue.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Usually I would like to see a ref go under some sort of a hood or walk up to a monitor. And even if you got Mark Butterworth chirping at him in the New York studio where they're doing the replay.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, Butterworth's fingers are all over this thing.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It is. This is a classic Butter situation.
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PFT Commenter
Butterworth joint.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
We want to see the ref that's on the field, the guy that's wearing the cleats. I'm assuming ref. Refs wear cleats. We want to see that guy looking at a monitor and maybe hearing through his earpiece that Butterworth says it's an interception. Then he walks out to the field, says that they've take a look at it and that it's the Denver Broncos football. Instead, what we got was just a couple replays shown on tv, and then the game just started again.
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PFT Commenter
It's. We need. We. You need to allow us to take a breath. You need us to allow us to sit there and just watch it over and over and then debate it. They didn't. They robbed us of that. And I think that has a lot to do with the anger people have. I. So my first knee jerk was, that's a catch. How is that not a catch? After watching it, I don't know, a thousand times, I actually think that it's an interception. And if you told me I have to watch it a thousand more times, I might go back to catch, because that close. But as I sit here right now, I don't know if he. I don't know if he caught it. Like, I visualizing the idea that if he had. If the ball had popped out right when McMillan grabbed it, would that be called a catch? No, it would Be called an incomplete.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Right.
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PFT Commenter
And that's kind of what sealed it in my brain.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. I think it looks like. It looks like a catch when you first watch it. By the logic of the NFL's rule book, I think that it's the correct call for it to be an interception. So it looks like a catch, but that's not what the NFL rule is.
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PFT Commenter
Do you guys all agree?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Well, there's one problem.
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Hank
It's cut and dry.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
There's one problem with it.
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PFT Commenter
If you.
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Hank
If remove McMillan from the situation, like, he's catching that on his own. He catches the ball in the air, hits the ground, it pops out in completion.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
There's one problem with it, and that's. That's that the refs have. Have not always seen this the exact same way every time. So, like, Aaron Rodgers, when he threw that.
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PFT Commenter
That.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That interception the other week where he caught it, went to ground, and it got stolen away from him. You remember that play?
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Hank
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He, like, fell to his knees. That is a very, very similar play to this. I think the NFL is saying that Aaron Rodgers made a football move by, like, intentionally bringing his knees to the turf.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Before it got ripped out. I think that's where the distinction is. But it's like almost an identical play when you. When you look at the logic applied to it. We just would have liked to see, like, give us a chance to digest it and to have, you know, Gene Stereotor or whoever pop up on the screen and walk us through it, as opposed to Butterworth getting on his. His, like, AUV headset and paging down to the refs and being like, hey, guys, that's Broncos ball.
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PFT Commenter
Yes.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Let's get this game going.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. It just. It left us all saying, what the hell just happened? And then we have the pass interference calls, which I don't. So the first one I thought was. Was. Was wrong because we also had the. There was a Bills fans will point to and correctly. It's basically a war right now going on of. What about this play? What about this. Oh, what about this play? There's the hold in the end.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
That would have. Would. That would have ended it.
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Hank
That one hurts for Broncos fans.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because Bo Nicks.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Oh, they're the real victims in this. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
It's crazy out of order because it could be like, a totally different.
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Hank
No. Regardless of what happens. That's.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
That's facts.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. All right, so. And then they had the. The. Just. Just to be fair, the. The Bills. No. There was a no call of The Bills look like a pass interference in the end zone on the Broncos at the end of regulation. The first one, I thought the Tron Johnson I thought wasn't a passive fearance. The second one, Tr Was. And. But here's the problem.
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Hank
Problem.
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PFT Commenter
The ref spent the entire game not calling pretty much anything.
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Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Then they decided to start calling stuff in overtime. That's where I. That's where I think it's. That's where I side with Bill's fans in their plight, is that it's not that this wasn't true White. By the letter of the law, he was. He was pass interfering. He was. That's a call that can get made. They just didn't call anything for. For the majority of the game and let a lot of stuff go. And then in overtime, they're like, you know what we're gonna start calling it? That part would be, to me.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. True Davis White. That was pass interference. I. I don't care what they called or what they didn't call earlier in the game. It sucks that that's kind of how the game ended.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, I do care what they called earlier in the game because they set the tone of how they were calling the game, and it was a physical game that they were letting a lot of things go, but I still think they don't. That's where it pisses me off.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I still think that one in particular. That's. It sucks to watch. But that was pass interference, no matter what they called earlier.
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PFT Commenter
But they let the one go earlier for. That was clearly on the pass interference on.
- [101:45]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
On Brandon Cooks.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think that was also past interference that they missed.
- [101:50]
PFT Commenter
Right. So. But that they were consistently not calling those during the game until overtime.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
- [101:56]
PFT Commenter
And they're like, oh, it. We'll start calling them. That's. I would be pissed if I were a Bills fan.
- [102:00]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Now, Sean McDermott went through all the emotions after the game. He seems like he's just, like, in denial about the way that it ended. And he's just asking for, you know, clarification. He's trying to fight it, which is.
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PFT Commenter
Fair, because I. Clarification is really the biggest part of this, is like, they should have stopped and told us everything.
- [102:19]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But this. This has been our problem with Butterworth the entire time is he's sitting in his office like an evil villain, like that guy from Inspector Gadget that's got the cat with his back turned to the camera.
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PFT Commenter
Butterworth moves in the shadows. You can never nab him down.
- [102:32]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
He's so elusive. You're like, oh, you see a little smear on a. A little. Little greasy smear on a table. You're like, butterworth was here.
- [102:41]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And. And I do.
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PFT Commenter
Damn it.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I do think that, you know, we talked about the difference between the refs that are on the field and then a guy like Butterworth that's sitting up in his booth that has never. He's never been in a locker room.
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Hank
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's never put his cleats on. He's never stepped on the field. I do feel like the refs on the field would be more likely to rule that a catch than a guy sitting in his. His rule book layer.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That's watching everything. Super slow mo with all the angles on it, like he's in the matrix. I. Maybe that's just a hunch that I have. I feel like a ref that's on the field with these guys would be like, yeah, it's a catch.
- [103:13]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Such a bizarre game, though, to have. Have it be so great. Have it end in a pass interference, have it end in a controversial play, have the Bills get their absolute guts ripped out yet again, and then have the Broncos have Bo Nix get hurt. It's like, who even won this game?
- [103:29]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
It was such a wild swing of emotions that, like, that was the. The Broncos hadn't won a playoff game since their super bowl win in 2015. It should be nothing but the happiest times. And yet it just all got sucked out of there. And everyone's, like, walking away from this game being like, well, who won?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Before we did our own research on steady, what were your first thoughts on what the Broncos should do? I had. I had two that came to mind.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
This is officially just, like, fan fiction time. When you hear a quarterback goes down like this. What would be the most awesome storylines? My first one was Drew Brees.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [104:01]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Give him a call.
- [104:02]
PFT Commenter
Would have been awesome.
- [104:03]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
See if he can play one more game. Somebody pointed out that he can only throw, like, 30 yards now. I don't care. The altitude up there makes a difference.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Then number two was Tebow. Just because it's always. Tebow's always number two. And then third was Philip Rivers.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, you're missing one crazy storyline.
- [104:18]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What if Philip Rivers came and played for the Broncos?
- [104:20]
PFT Commenter
We're missing one crazy story storyline. What if. What if, what if Brady?
- [104:24]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Oh, yeah, that'd be crazy. Yeah. Just shits on Peyton Manning's legacy as. As a Bronco.
- [104:30]
PFT Commenter
As a Bronco.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Well, the fact that he owns a team that's in the same Division probably makes.
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PFT Commenter
Probably. Probably wouldn't work.
- [104:35]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Less likely but also more chaotic, which I would appreciate.
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PFT Commenter
But he would also be the one that you would take out of all those four.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Like if.
- [104:42]
PFT Commenter
If maybe Phil Rivers.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
If Brady's played. And again, Matt, before Max ruined kayfabe for us, before we disclose that we. We didn't know who won the. The Texans Patriots.
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Max
That's on me.
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PFT Commenter
That's all right, Max. You're not a. You're not a steady guy. You're not a city guy.
- [104:57]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I'm not just in this alternate take universe. He's a good guy fan of the show.
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PFT Commenter
He's.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, you're.
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PFT Commenter
You're just mad because as we're sitting this right now. What?
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Hank
Stutham.
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PFT Commenter
Stutham. As we're sitting here right now, it's. It's. It's an hour before the Patriots and Texans kick off. I'm about to go to the Bears game. And you are mad because you're like, the Patriots have the easiest path to.
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Max
The Super Bowl NFL history.
- [105:18]
PFT Commenter
But that.
- [105:19]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But this.
- [105:20]
PFT Commenter
But.
- [105:20]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But the schedule.
- [105:21]
PFT Commenter
What happens if they lose the Texans?
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Max
Let's go, Texans. I wish they had the same.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They're not going to lose the Texans because. I don't know. Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter and C.J. stroud and Woody Marks are all going to get the flu before the game.
- [105:38]
PFT Commenter
They're not losing to the Texas Texans.
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Max
They're right. Nico Collins and. And their right tackle both out fully broken.
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PFT Commenter
Immersion.
- [105:46]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But just imagine. Imagine.
- [105:48]
Hank
Well, they're you. They're trying. They're doing their little thing. I love it.
- [105:50]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What if Tom Brady came back and beat the Patriots in Denver?
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PFT Commenter
The Broncos? Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Oh, I would come talk about having a stroke on tv. I would have. I would have a stroke for sure. Different kind of stroke.
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PFT Commenter
You're crazy about stum. Stum might be a guy.
- [106:08]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I.
- [106:09]
Max
Maybe I would love for him to be a guy.
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PFT Commenter
He's not, but he might be.
- [106:12]
Max
Have you guys heard the McDaniels loves.
- [106:14]
Hank
Did them.
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Max
Have you guys heard the theory that Bodix actually didn't get hurt that play?
- [106:19]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Well, yeah. So after it happened, I believe that he did now, like 95%, maybe. 90%. 90%. That's where he got hurt. The other 10% of my brain was like they were partying in the locker room. Bonex slipped in the shower.
- [106:37]
PFT Commenter
Too much.
- [106:38]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
There's horseplay. Too much. It's a horse player.
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Max
Quick after this play.
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PFT Commenter
Hey, did you. Did you tweet after, like shout out to Bills for breaking his ankle before, like, to end the game. No, no. Oh, did you think that in your head? No, not at all. I still don't. I, I'm with Max.
- [106:54]
Hank
Like I, I would, I am. I don't think that's where it happened. Like something, something makes no sense.
- [106:59]
PFT Commenter
You think something's up?
- [107:01]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Something is.
- [107:01]
Max
I do. Something is up.
- [107:03]
PFT Commenter
Something is up.
- [107:04]
Max
He gets up so quickly for a guy.
- [107:08]
Hank
I'm not looking past the Texans, but.
- [107:09]
PFT Commenter
Like I, Tracy Wolfson did tweet in real time. She's like, something to monitor. Bo Nix looks like he has a limp.
- [107:16]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, I think she said it might have been his knee. But she did say that he was limping off the field at the end of the game.
- [107:21]
PFT Commenter
She was the first to report.
- [107:22]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And that's before Sean Payton came out. But the it. Max, I'm gonna put my fingers up.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I'll go with you.
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Max
I'm just gonna say 90. I'm gonna say 90.
- [107:29]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It's weird that Sean Payton came out.
- [107:31]
PFT Commenter
Out.
- [107:31]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Injury update. Here's the full plan. We've got his appointment. He's checking it at 9 o' clock in the morning. He's going to be using his anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield. And then he's got his first rehab assignment on February 7 at 7:30am like he, he had like the treatment plan.
- [107:45]
PFT Commenter
Oh, you guys thinking what I'm thinking?
- [107:48]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Script.
- [107:49]
PFT Commenter
Soft benching.
- [107:51]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Soft benching?
- [107:51]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Is this the most high profile soft benching of all time?
- [107:55]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
- [107:56]
Max
They got, they got to see what city's got. They gotta see, they gotta see.
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PFT Commenter
Like, think about it. If, if, if Sean Payton benched Bo Nix, everyone would riot. Now he's got a fractured ankle and he's going to Alabama. And it's Stitty, his guy that Sean Payton's thought has been the guy since day one. Soft benching.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I mean, Sean Payton, he kind of, he, he gets his guys that he falls in love with. I know he might be in, like he was in love with Taysom Hill for so long.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He might just be in love with stadium. If he's in love with stadium, I got no choice but to ride.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so let's do. I, I, I, I do feel bad for Bill's fans. This is, you know, I, I know that we are biased towards Josh Allen. He, he, he had to play better. That's a fact. And it sucks that he's gonna now like that. It sucked watching him that emotional. I think the answer is you have to get rid of Sean McDermott. Again, not a bad coach, but it's just you have to, you have to change something. And you can. You're not going to trade Josh Allen.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It's time.
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PFT Commenter
It's time. It sucks. I do think he's a good coach. Just like nine years in.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
If you do that. You have to have a plan, though.
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Max
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You have to be sure that you can get somebody better than Sean McDermott, somebody that's still out there.
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PFT Commenter
But I think just any type of new newness is going to help.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Mike McDaniel be very funny if he went there and then proceeded to beat the Dolphins. If you can't beat. If you can't beat Daddy, join them.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Okay. Let's talk some. Let's talk some college football. National championship.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
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PFT Commenter
Okay, we got a national championship. How do you guys think it's gonna go? Did you see Carson Beck was asked how class was this week and he's like, dude, I graduated two years ago. I haven't been to a class. It's one of life.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, I just played.
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PFT Commenter
What an incredible life.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I'm a, I'm a professional football player. That's what I did.
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PFT Commenter
Miami for the good Miami team.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. Yeah, I did see that. That was very funny. I, I think Indiana's just going to keep rolling.
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PFT Commenter
It feels that way.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They've just been, they've been so dominant recently. Although I will say with all the talk of Indiana cheating, if there's one guy that could stop Indiana from spying on stuff, from doing whatever it is that are allowed alleged to have been doing. Mario Crystal Ball was a secret service agent.
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PFT Commenter
True.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Like this is a man that knows how to set up a perimeter.
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PFT Commenter
Good point.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
This is a man that can keep prying eyes away from high value targets unless they're on a sloped rock roof. I think that Mario Crystal Ball is uniquely positioned to be able to, to at least put to bed any allegations of cheating, win or lose this weekend. But I, I do feel like Indiana is just, they're, they don't make mistakes.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They're methodical. They suffocate you and they don't stop. So if they get a lead, it's not like this is a team that's going to sit on the lead and open themselves up to a second half comeback. I don't think they seem like a team that will get a lead and they will just not stop scoring on you until the final whistle.
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PFT Commenter
The one thing I'll say about Miami is they do play big boy football. Their lines, the offensive line, defensive line are, are massive. And they do like it's not going to be a physical mismatch in any way. You know, sometimes it'd be Big ten, ACC school. You could be like, oh no. Miami is built more like a big ten school or a really good SEC school than it is acc. So I think they'll be competitive. Are you going to live hedge at all? Because reminder, you have a 16 to 1. Yeah. National championship future. On the Hurricanes.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
On the Hurricanes. And I feel Terrible about it going to this game. I think Indiana's 8 1/2 point favorites now.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Right. It's going up that far. So what on the money line, what does that make them, like minus 320 right now.
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PFT Commenter
Let's pull it up on DraftKings.
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Max
Minus 340.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Minus 340 for Indiana. So. Yeah, I'm going to hope that Miami, if Miami goes up like seven to nothing, it'll probably get down to what, Indiana minus 170.
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PFT Commenter
Maybe.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Maybe. And in that case, I might do it. I really hope they go up 10 nothing or 14 nothing, in which case I will. I will absolutely hedge because I think that Indiana is. They're just, they're inevitable.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They're one of the best football teams that we've seen in college in a very long time. And I don't. I don't see Miami beating him.
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PFT Commenter
Kurt Signetti did say that he is a college football coach through and through.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yep.
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PFT Commenter
So that was, that was, that was made pretty clear that he's not going anywhere. Mike McCarthy is now going to interview for the Steelers job.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Which is very funny.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So with. With the allegations directed towards Indiana recently, I was thinking last week of, like, if you had an unlimited budget and unlimited technology. So, like, not including magic. If magic isn't part of this, I'd.
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PFT Commenter
Like to have some magic.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
No magic. I'm not. I'm not granting you any magic. How would you imagine, Johnson? How even. Yeah, you get.
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PFT Commenter
You get.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Okay.
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PFT Commenter
You get magic.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. How would you even go about cheating?
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PFT Commenter
No magic.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
No magic. You can't use magic. But unlimited budget.
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PFT Commenter
Cyber. Cyber warfare.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, cyber warfare.
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PFT Commenter
That's all.
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Hank
I just hack into their. Into their meeting rooms.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. I don't understand how any of that works, but I just know when you add cyber to. It's like, oh, fuck, they're really doing something serious.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. You got like a. Two guys in a van with earpieces that are sitting outside their facility cracking into the mainframe.
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PFT Commenter
See, you get a. Yeah, you get someone. You pay someone on the Miami team to give you all their plays.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That's. That would be a way to do it, too.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I've.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I thought of one thing yesterday when I was watching the Bills Broncos game, a way that you could cheat. I think if you had a guy that was like in the booth up above of that. You remember the, the vibrating anal beads thing in chess? It wouldn't have to be anal beads, but some sort of vibrating thing.
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PFT Commenter
Well, let's just make it anal.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Okay.
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PFT Commenter
Anal.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Anal beads. For the sake of this argument, if they were stuck up Josh Allen's ass at the start of the second half, if that was a halftime adjustments, like lube these things up and toss them up there. Josh. When there's a guy coming at the blind side at a quarterback.
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Max
Yep.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You hit the button. The guy up in the booth hits the button. It buzzes. It means just take off because there's a guy that's about to strip sack you. You could actually cheek do doing that. You might. But imagine four possessions a year.
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PFT Commenter
But here's the problem with that. I like the idea, but the one time the. The anal beads don't work, you like, don't hit the button fast enough, you basically your. Your guy dies.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Your guy dies because he's got the.
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PFT Commenter
The. The false sense of security that as long as the anal beads aren't going off in my right now, there's no one around me. You just like, you're a second late.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Or it just doesn't hit.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You didn't plug it in. Oh. Now the. The worst feeling would be if you got sacked and you were on the ground and there was a delay in the communication. So you're laying there dead on the ground, and then your butt starts to vibrate because the communication comes through late.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. You're on the pile and it's just vibrating.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But yeah, I. I think Indiana, I think they're gonna do it, and I think they're gonna win by double digits.
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PFT Commenter
It's a hell of a season. And we will. We will give them all the. All their flowers if they complete it. Because it's been. It's one of the craziest stories in. In sports. It really is. It really is. Okay. National sports podcast. Anything? I. I had a couple things before we do. Who's back of the week? Kyle Tucker. I know. This happened on what, Friday? Kyle Tucker's a Dodger. It's whatever.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The lineup is insane for the.
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PFT Commenter
You can't. I don't know. I don't know who to get mad at. Memes. Help me out. Who am I mad at? Boba mad. Kyle Tucker. Kyle Tucker. Mets game.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Boba shot.
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PFT Commenter
What? Mets gave Kyle Tucker one more year. No more money. Oh, and he said no. He said no. Oh, so that is. He ran from the grind. If guys are now taking less money to go to the Dodgers and the Dodgers have unlimited money, that is a problem. The same thing happened with Edwin Diaz. He said he couldn't win with the Mets and he just joined the Dodgers. The problem I. I keep Struggling with is that, yes, the Dodgers are spending too much money or they spend all their money, they're gonna be so much better than everyone. They have a competitive advantage. But for all the teams that cry poor, I really do wonder if you just could, like, snap your finger. Maybe we use magic for this. Snap your fingers and be like Pirates, you have the budget that the Dodgers have. Reds, you have the budget the Dodgers have. I don't think any of those teams would actually spend the way the Dodgers do. They just take a profit.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Which is bullshit.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I agree.
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PFT Commenter
So that's the part where I'm like. Like, I know the system's broken, but I still. I have a hard time blaming the Dodgers because they're just doing the things that the system has allowed. Until you fix it, they're going to keep doing it, and they're going to keep winning.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. I mean, obviously, having an owner that's got more money than the other owners is a benefit. It's an advantage. But still, the real benefit is having an owner that does not give a about his own pocketbook and will spend whatever it takes to win, knowing that you'll make more money in the long term if you have, like a. A dynasty of a baseball team.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Which is what the Dodgers are going for. So here's the projected lineup for the Dodgers at Opening Day 2026. Facing the Nationals, Shohei Otani, Kyle Tucker, Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, Will Smith, Max Muncie T. Oscar Hernandez, Tommy Edmond, Andy Pajes. That's a insane lineup.
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PFT Commenter
It's an insane lineup. But I will say, just warning Dodgers fans out there, Kyle Tucker did have the perfect spot in game five against the brewers and had a perfect pitch to. To. To hit an extra base hitter or home run, and he did nothing with.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
With it.
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PFT Commenter
Came up so small.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Buyer beware.
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PFT Commenter
And that might be me just being a little salty, but I don't care. Guy came up, say sucks.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Small say sucks.
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PFT Commenter
He sucked in the second half. He sucked.
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Max
Sucked.
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PFT Commenter
He was hurt, but he sucked.
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Max
No, no, don't give him.
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PFT Commenter
Don't give him an out. Yeah, he sucked. He was a. About it even though he played through his injury.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Do you guys have any guesses as to. As to how much the Dodgers have on their books? Current salaries deferred or not including the deferred payments.
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PFT Commenter
It's got to be billions.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
$2.11 billion.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. In payroll billions.
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Max
I don't understand deferred payments.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I don't either.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
All right, so it's.
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Max
Everyone talks about It. And it's like they're.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It's like, we. We will pay you all this money, but we're not going to pay it while you're on the team. So, like, Bobby Bonilla is a classic.
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Max
One that people got it.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It's like, we will pay you a million dollars a year for 30 years. Years on this state, you push everything back. And there are some teams that have been able to be very successful with it. Other teams like the Nats have not been able to because they were tied up in. In legal proceedings. So the money, yeah, it seemed like it was going to be there, but it wasn't as rock solid a thing is like, the Dodgers can promise Shohei Otani all this money for the next 15 years or however long that contract is. And he's like, yeah, I know you're good for it.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, got it. Still don't fully understand it, but that's. That is a good explanation.
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Max
Why didn't you just pay it, like.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Right all up front? Because, I don't know. You had. You had to move a few things around.
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PFT Commenter
I think also, like, Shohei's getting so many advertising deals. Okay. Endorsement deals, that he essentially is probably making simps. Like, he's making tens of millions of dollars right now because he's playing. And then when he retires, he's gonna. To keep making tens of millions of dollars from his playing days.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And that will. Ippei will be able to do as many parlays as he wants.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah. That's actually a great example for Shohei. It's like, traditionally, you would like as much of the money up front as possible because then you can invest it in things. But if maybe you're investing in things like Russian soccer and Czechoslovakian table tennis.
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PFT Commenter
Let me ask you, maybe you'd rather.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Have a better future Runway for. I'm gonna get paid $20 million on this day 10 years from now. $20 million 11 years from now. So you know that money's coming in.
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PFT Commenter
Max. Let me talk to your language. You know the, like, the best bite of a sandwich.
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Max
Yep.
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PFT Commenter
Just leaving yourself that for after. Yep. Yeah. You eat everything else.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, it's good. That's. That's a much better way to put it.
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Max
Much better way. Thank you. Now I get now. Now it all makes so much sense to me.
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PFT Commenter
I just needed the same last bite. It's the last bite. You just. Everyone knows that last bite.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Oh, yeah. With nachos. You say you saved the one nacho for the end.
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Max
Oh, you never have the best show to start.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Psycho move. If, if I see if I'm having nachos with somebody and they take the nacho right off the bat, it ruins the entire meal.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Max
Bad guy. That's like an all time bad guy move.
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PFT Commenter
That was like the. When Dana tweeted his bagel bites and he had like 30 of them and he said, which one do you go for first? I always pick the absolute worst one to go for first. I eat it standing up. It doesn't even count. You just basically cleaning off the board, like being like, hey, we're going to get rid of you. You can't leave that one. You got to just take it. That's a, that's a pro move. Move. The crispiest fry, you gotta leave the soggy fry, you gotta take right away. Get yourself going. These are the things that you do with deferred payments and running an MLB team.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
That's what the Dodgers doing right now. Yeah. It would be so awesome to be a Dodgers fan.
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PFT Commenter
It really would. Although is there a point where I disagree? I don't know.
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Max
Yeah, there's a point where it's like, it, like what? Like, what's the fun in this?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Winning champion.
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PFT Commenter
No, it is fun, Hank.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
No, winning championship's always fun.
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Hank
Yes.
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PFT Commenter
But I think what Max is saying, and there's a little part of them, like, watching your own guys go, like, progress through the system like that is a fun part of baseball that they. Again, they're not really complaining, but they're just doing superheroes. They're doing the Avengers every single year. Dodgers also have the number one farm system. Yeah, I know. That's the crazy part. I don't even understand that. I don't understand how that works.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I still think it's awesome. I think the Dodgers fans. Yeah, no, they're having a great time.
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PFT Commenter
Time. I, I was forced to, to, to move the Cubs ceiling with the Kyle Tucker signing. I, I, I, the ceiling has changed for the Cub season. Before the Kyle Tucker signing, it was Cubs lose or, or Cubs win two games. The nlcs. I think now the ceiling might be Cubs get swept by the Dodgers in the nlcs. That's a ceiling.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But how awesome.
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PFT Commenter
Just taking away two NLC games.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
How awesome would it have been if, if the Blue Jays had been beating them?
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PFT Commenter
I know.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And then we could all look at this and be like, you guys are, you guys are down. So you're panicking down so bad. Panicking by the Dodgers.
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PFT Commenter
The Phillies have done stuff, right. Yeah, I knew that.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Boba shot.
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PFT Commenter
Right, Sorry.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You Told me Boba Shet was signed with Phillies.
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Max
Well, they met his demands on Thursday night. Seven years, 200 million. And then the Mets panicked and gave him just a billion dollars.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Congrats, memes.
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PFT Commenter
Congrats, memes. That's huge.
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Max
But the Met. The Mets are also worse than they were last year. So it makes no sense.
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PFT Commenter
Are the Mets. Are the Mets doing the thing where they're just trying to build an entire team out of infielders? Yeah, they're slowly building a not. Not terrible roster. Pretty good. But you got a lot of infielders. A lot of infielders. And they're just relying on the young pitchers. Got it. But they might get Cody Bellinger. Okay, so they're, like, slowly adding. Yeah. Even though Mets fans have been pissed off with how the offseason's going.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So. So last week. I forget if it was on on Thursday. I think it's probably on Thursday. Steve Cohen tweeted out something very cryptic about what the Mets were up to. Memes. Was he talking? He said something like, look for the smoke coming.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that was all about Kyle Tucker.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It was about Kyle Tucker. And so he was kind of insinuating that the Mets were about to get Kyle Tucker, Right?
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PFT Commenter
Yes. But also that they were just waiting. I think Kyle Tucker was just playing everyone along.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But then you guys got Boba Shet. Then we got Boba Shet, who's very good.
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PFT Commenter
He's stud.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He's really good.
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PFT Commenter
Very, very good. I have a robot question for you, Max. Roback.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polo, sodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. Is there anything you'd like to say about this report about the discourse in the Eagles facility? Did you see that?
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Max
This is Rossini.
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PFT Commenter
No, it was Michael Silver. So Michael Silver joint, Basically everyone, or that's a no. Let me just give you the gist.
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Max
Was Jalen Hurts thing.
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PFT Commenter
Jalen hurt. No one thinks Jalen hurts is good except for Howie and. And Jeffrey Lurie.
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Max
Sure. Fine.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. So you saw it. You didn't see it. You don't care.
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Max
I. I didn't read it. I saw. I saw, like, a headline about it.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. No. Okay. We had.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Do you think that's a problem?
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Max
Super bowl mvp.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yep.
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PFT Commenter
Facts.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What have you done for me lately?
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PFT Commenter
Done?
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Max
In the biggest spots.
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PFT Commenter
Brian Dable, Maybe to the Eagles.
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Max
Yeah. If Brian D. If Brian Dable comes. Brian Dable's coming. Coming because of Jalen Hurts.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, we'll see.
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Max
We'll See what happens there.
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PFT Commenter
So Harbaugh was officially named Giants head coach. There was a weird couple days where it was done, it was announced, but it wasn't done. Matt LaFleur back with the Packers. KEVIN Stefanski Atlanta FALCONS HEAD COACH I do feel a little. Because we had some pushback. Every time we defend Kevin Stefanski, everyone was like, or there's some people like, there's no way he's going to get in the job. He's a very good coach. And winning us, winning a playoff game with the Cleveland Browns counts as a Super Bowl. And he was there for a very long time and I think he's going to be. I'm excited to see him in an offense with these guys.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I like that they're saying that they're doing a Philly reunion in Atlanta. Yeah. Because Matt Ryan is now the president of football for the Atlanta Falcons. Fucking sick ass job title that he's got. Forget this. Executive vice president of football operations.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He is the president of football for the Atlanta Falcons. He's a Philly guy. Stefanski's a Philly guy. They're building Philly south in Atlanta. Go Birds.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. And Arthur Blank had a steak. So according to the, the, the report from Albert Breer, they went. Stefanski had an hour and a half meeting at Arthur Blank's house. Then they had dinner. Blank had planned a steak and potato bar, but then surprised everyone by cooking the ribeyes himself. That's not really a surprise I would care about. Hey guys, watch this. I'm gonna cook the steaks instead of a show. Okay, Dude.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I mean, he owns Home Depot. He's probably got a sick ass grill.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's just like a, like you imagine being like, surprise. Yeah, I cooked them. All right. There's. They're still steak. Right.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So there was a very funny picture that they, they put out of Stefanski and Matt Ryan and Arthur Blank and the Falcons brass. Can you pull that up? Yeah, the picture that they, they posted yesterday.
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PFT Commenter
That's good.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It was, it was a funny picture because first of all, it looked like Stefanski didn't know that they were going to be doing the picture thing.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Which I, I'm, by the way, I, I did reach out to Coach Stefanski and I said, said thank God that you're gonna still be in the yearly picture at the, the coaches meetings, the owners meetings. And he was like, I, I couldn't do that to you. I couldn't miss that. So, yeah, I'm, that was the first thing I thought of was like we didn't lose to fans.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
We got to keep these guys around. So this picture, it seemed like they got the deal done. And he was like, oh, I didn't know that we were gonna, like, take a picture and post it online afterwards. But look at. Look at Arthur Blank. Look at that sassy girl.
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PFT Commenter
We. Yeah, he does.
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Hank
Look at.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Zoom in on his face. That.
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PFT Commenter
That. Well, you know what? That looks like.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He knows a man that. He's a man that knows he just cooked.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
A fire ribeye.
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PFT Commenter
That sealed the deal. The face of a man who's going to sleep well tonight knowing he surprised the boys by cooking the ribeyes.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
What a surprise.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Nailed it.
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PFT Commenter
Can we. Can we. As a. As a group of men that, you know, we. We have. We have a big listenership. We have some. Some type of poll. We've got to get rid of the. The arms around shoulders picture. It's the. We always look bad in it in golf pictures. And, like, we always look. This looks awkward.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Would you rather do the. The prom picture, like, skinny shoulder?
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PFT Commenter
I think you. I think guys just gotta stand. I think we just gotta stand as guys and be like, it's okay to stand and not put our arms. Like guys.
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Hank
You don't think about what to do. And then he just kind of.
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PFT Commenter
I know, but look at Stefanski. That doesn't look comfortable for him to have both his arms locked behind him.
- [129:30]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You know what? Maybe. Maybe change starts at home here. Maybe when we take our pictures, we guess, like, hands on the hips.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. I don't know what. I don't know what the solution is, but I know that we, as guys have run out of, like, we just all look bad when we do it. We're like, hey, let's get 15 guys standing in a line. We'll all put our arms around each other so we're all kind of awkwardly standing uncomfortably. It just. There's got to be a better way. Maybe we got to start flexing. I don't know. But. Yeah. Arthur Blake. That's a ribeye chef right there.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He nailed it.
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PFT Commenter
What a. What a beast. What a beast. Oh, man. Someday. Someday I would like to get. I would do. I'd like to do, like, a documentary about that dinner and just be like, all right, be honest to us. Matt Ryan or Kevin Stevenski. He overcooked those steaks.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Well, we wish.
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PFT Commenter
We wish that that was a chef, not him.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Is he a guy that said, how do you like your steaks? To everybody? And then tailored them? Or was he like, I cook my steaks Medium rare.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And then just made you eat his steak.
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PFT Commenter
Yes. We're looking at Pug's final picture. You nailed it. Except for Shane. Shane's a weirdo. Shane it up. Like, just standing as guys is totally normal.
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Hank
And.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. We need to let the message be shown. When you. When you get a bunch of guys in a picture and we all go arms around each other, we always look bad.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What do you do?
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PFT Commenter
This might be because I have breasts. I fully admit that.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The end of a round of golf. Hank, is there anything else that you do or always army around?
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Hank
Well, with golf, you can hold the club.
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PFT Commenter
You hold the club, which is good. So maybe we need. You know what we need to do? Guys just need to walk around with bats. So if you ever have to take a picture, you just do the bat. You just hold the bat on your shoulder. That's a cool picture. Every. All the guys holding bats on their.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Shoulders or just a football.
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PFT Commenter
Maybe that's what we need to do for. For whatever we do. Meet and greets. Just have a bunch of bats ready, anything.
- [131:18]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Or do the boxer pose. Just like the fists.
- [131:20]
PFT Commenter
Up, up, thumbs up, boxer pose. I don't like doing thumbs up, but I sometimes will just do it pointing at each other. Just hold up one.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Number one. That's why gang members have it all figured out, right?
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PFT Commenter
Gang members going arms around each other.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
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Hank
Who's back of the week. Speaking of twisted T. 2016.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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Hank
I don't know what I. I believe. I believe whatever magic voodoo went into the year 2016. I don't know why it is the case. Like, it's not like in, you know, 2024. People were like, oh, it feels like 2014 or 2023. It feels like 2023.
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PFT Commenter
See?
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Hank
But something about 2016, people just love. I think Fetty Wap got out of jail, so that's what kind of started the. The trend of people being like, oh, it feels like 2016 again. But it's just.
- [132:49]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It's.
- [132:49]
Hank
Everyone's talking about 2016 again.
- [132:51]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Now we're talking pre Harambe or post Harambe.
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Hank
Just the whole year. The whole year had something to it. Summer 2016, Harambe was, you know, a big. A big part of it, but, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Huge part of it. It's when everything changed.
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Hank
It feels like 2016 again. That obviously for us, it was when the podcast started. So I. Do. I. I've. Whatever. Voodoo was like, 2020, 2016. Something changed. Something was in the air. Something happened.
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PFT Commenter
Cubs.
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Hank
Cubs, 2016. Yeah, that summer it was. We. We hadn't moved to New York yet. We were working from home. I was on the beach all the time, drinking a lot of twisted teas. It was a great year, great summer, great fall, great winter.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Gas and beers, chucking, knocks.
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Hank
Yeah, 2016. So 2016 is back and I like it. It's some trends. It's like, this makes no sense. This one is one of them.
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PFT Commenter
But.
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Hank
But I love 2016. And, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what it is about. What it is, man, is that when society.
- [133:43]
PFT Commenter
This is really deep here, Hank.
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Hank
Well, no, but it is. It is a trending thing.
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PFT Commenter
What. Say that last thing again. I don't know what about what it is. What it is.
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Hank
I don't know what it was or what was in the air in 2016, but it was. It was a special year. And I'm happy. It's being, you know, back when was Cool.
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PFT Commenter
Cool.
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Hank
Yeah, it's just. It's just for. I. I don't understand why, again, people are. Are talking about it a lot.
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PFT Commenter
They're probably trying to get the.
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Hank
But they could have been like that in 2015. They could have in 2025. No one was like, oh, my God, 2015 was 10 years ago. You know, same with 2024 and 2023. Something about 2016.
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PFT Commenter
Do you think maybe it's like the AI robots are trying to get facial recognition?
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Hank
But that's the thing.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I know. I saw someone say that. And like, but what about all the posts you made in 2016? Exactly. They're like, oh, people post, like, parties.
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Hank
Like, yeah, no cell phones inside.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It's like, yeah, no, that was still.
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Hank
Like, people had cell phones.
- [134:37]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Very much. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very much.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah. I. I'm more bummed in the fact that I don't think in my head 2016 was 10 years ago. No, I think of it in my head as like three years ago. Yeah, it's like the. The. The stat that I threw out that. That still blows my mind that I've been. Been. I've been a dad for longer than I wasn't a dad on this podcast. That's weird, right?
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Hank
Anything that involves the timeline of this podcast existing, I don't think is that long.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Right.
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PFT Commenter
It still feels maybe that's. That's. That's a testament to us and keeping things fresh in. In. In the marriage of the podcast. We don't time when time is going so fast we don't even notice it.
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Hank
Right.
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PFT Commenter
It doesn't feel like 10 years. I never got the 10 year itch.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I didn't enjoy going back through the 2016 photos that I have in my phone of. Of the podcast in 2016 and seeing all the weird that we got into that first year.
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PFT Commenter
And no gray hair. Yeah.
- [135:29]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Stella and Leroy. No gray hair either.
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Hank
No beard.
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PFT Commenter
Were you in college, Max?
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Max
Oh, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, geez. High school.
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Max
I was playing. I was playing baseball for Hofstra that year.
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PFT Commenter
Zach, what grade were you in? 12th grade. Okay, you're a senior.
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Hank
I was 22. That's what. Like, I don't. I don't. When I think of a 22 year old now, I think they're super young, but I was 22 when this podcast was. Was incepted.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
It's crazy.
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Max
I refused to post any pictures from 2016.
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Hank
Skinny.
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Max
So skinny.
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PFT Commenter
Skinny.
- [135:57]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What about the beard?
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Max
I had a beard.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Full beard. Do you want me to go back.
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Max
Full beard in like, eighth grade?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
You want me to go back through your Venmos from 2016 again, Max.
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PFT Commenter
Why do they.
- [136:08]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Why are so many tree emojis? What does that mean?
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Max
Couples.
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PFT Commenter
You were really big into skiing.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Was it cold?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It looks like it was probably cold in Phil.
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Max
There's no. There's no skiing.
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PFT Commenter
All right. Pft. Your who's back of the week.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Speaking of skiing mine. My who's back of the week is crotches and ski jumping.
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PFT Commenter
Oh.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
There's a major scandal going on right now in the world of, like, Olympic and world championship ski jumping.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So Norway is traditionally the best team in the world that ski jump jumping, obviously.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that makes sense.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They've got a shitload of gold.
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PFT Commenter
I thought Japan was really good too.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think they Might be good, but Norway is like, they are. They're the Yukon women's basketball of ski jumping.
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PFT Commenter
I did this just. I want you to keep going that. I just totally forgot that we're like two weeks away from the Olympics.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Oh, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
It's crazy.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah, we're super close.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So there are three officials from Norway's men's ski jumping team that have been suspended for 18 months, and they were also fined by the ethics committee for manipulating competition suits at the Nordic Ski World Championships that they had in Trondheim.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So their head coach, Magnus Brevik, their assistant coach, Thomas Lobbin, and their suit technician, Adrian Leavelton, have all been sanctioned based on an investigation into some crotch alterations that they made at the men's large hill event in March 2025. So there's very strict reg. It's like a, like a NASCAR motor.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It goes into a car. There's certain limitations on what you can put on these suits. And they apparently took out some of the stitches and made modifications to make the crotches bigger on these ski jumping suits, which apparently assisted them in getting a couple extra meters or inches or whatever the it was.
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PFT Commenter
I love this.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So they, they, they didn't find anything that was illegal when they did the initial check.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
My guess is they probably don't get too into it on the crotches.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
At that point. But then after the race, they, they found the materials in the seams that had been changed. And apparently there's also a video that shows somebody on the team making alterations before they got them red handed. So I, I would think the other way, that if you made the crotch smaller, that would be more aerodynamic.
- [138:25]
PFT Commenter
And.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But if apparently you have a bigger crotch, it is. I don't know if that's gravity or weight when you're going down the hill, but if your, if your dick appears bigger as you're going down the hill, it can actually help you in ski jumping.
- [138:39]
PFT Commenter
Well, are they ski jumping? Is it just straight distance or are they voting on it too?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think this is just straight distance.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
It's 100. I don't. I think you have to land it cleanly.
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PFT Commenter
Got it.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
But I think it's. I don't, I don't really know, but.
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PFT Commenter
But I just love any of these type of weird stories that come up.
- [138:55]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
So now controversies at the Olympics. They're going to have to have a crotch guy.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
They're going to have to have a dude that's like lifting Crotch inspector. Lifting up the grundle. Like breaking out the Protractor.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
And making sure everything is above board.
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PFT Commenter
They got to.
- [139:08]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
They got to do it for the women to. Whoa, Max. All right. Max just found a, A woman who is very attractive. Possibly AI in a ski suit.
- [139:17]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Oh, definitely. Yeah.
- [139:18]
PFT Commenter
She's got.
- [139:19]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Remember Jake Browning's girlfriend?
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PFT Commenter
This is our, this is our just getting horny part of the show. Okay. My, my. Who's back is perspective. Perspective.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Because Ed Cooley in Georgetown, he.
- [139:33]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He really made me think.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, Georgetown. It has not gone well for Ed Cooley at Georgetown. He's going there to revive a program. They're 1 in 6 in conference play. They're 99 overall. And he said after the game, there's a lot worse happening right now than Georgetown losing a basketball game. You know what? We are, we're blessed. We're blessed to be 99. We're blessed to be one in six in the league. It could be a lot worse. I can't imagine Georgetown fans are pumped about this one. This gotta be. You can't be. You can't be happy that the guy who, who came. Providence is just. Providence has not won on the court, but they're winning the breakup up otherwise 100%. Yeah.
- [140:13]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Is Ed Cooley wrong?
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PFT Commenter
There's a lot going on in the world.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Things could be worse. I actually don't think that they could. I don't think that. I think that Georgetown basketball being where they're at is actually the worst thing in the world right now.
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PFT Commenter
Well, it's if. If you are making, if you're a Georgetown fan, if you're Ed Cooley and you're saying that the world is in a bad spot right now, and then you add in the fact that you're one and six in conference, you. You are actually in the worst spot. Spot in the world.
- [140:39]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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Hank
Yeah.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
The world could be a little bit better, personally. Like be the change that you want to see in the world. Maybe have Georgetown be 500 in. In conference play.
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PFT Commenter
We do this as a joke when our teams lose. He did this fully real. This is going to work. He's.
- [140:54]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
He should have just gone out there and been like, okay, so we're going to talk about the Bills Ravens Monday Night Football game.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's. He's one step away of, of, of just bringing homeless pets to the press conference and being like, you see this little guy, someone needs to adopt them. Then I will answer a question about, you know, starting one and six in the conference. A one eyed cat just sitting, stroking a one eyed cat as he gives another Losing press conference. He's like, I, I appreciate all your guys questions, but I will not be answering any of them until one of you takes this cat home today.
- [141:26]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What about the homeless epidemic in Washington D.C. in our nation's capital? Have we thought about addressing that before we start sending reporters to sporting events? Like why? Why do we even have many? There's so many other things that they could be looking into.
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PFT Commenter
It's a good point. It's a really good point. Okay, Zach finishes off my. Who's back is going to be Andy Edwards. Absolutely. Making a splash last night. You guys see this? Yeah. Dropping a 55 piece. Yeah. I mean 26 in the fourth. They did a little. But I mean, you guys seen the highlights from the game? I saw some highlights of the game. I did have a question about this because Anthony Edwards is awesome. At what point is Anthony Edwards. Can we just say he's the face of the league and not because he just keeps getting dubbed the future face of the sleep.
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Hank
He's got to win.
- [142:05]
PFT Commenter
He's got to win.
- [142:06]
Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. He is the future face of this league.
- [142:09]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
What about mvp?
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Hank
Mvp? I guess you could be a face of league with mvp but you got to win in the next few years.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Like it's Josh Allen. Has he been the face of the NFL?
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Hank
No.
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PFT Commenter
Future face this league?
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Hank
No.
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PFT Commenter
Scotty Barnes.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
I mean it was, it was, it was two future faces of this league. It was Victor. Victor Wembanyanama and Ant. Going back to back. Wemby had what, 39, 39 and nine.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
It's just a future face of this league off. A couple of those mid range shots are just absolutely in guys eyes. Yeah.
- [142:41]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I think Jokic is the, the upper arms of this league. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
They're just. Who's got the legs?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Who's got the legs of the NBA? Maybe Paulo. He's got good footwork.
- [142:54]
PFT Commenter
Luca's got a pretty fat ass.
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Max
Paula's having a bad year.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Bad year.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Future face of the slicks. Can't stop saying it, Max. Future face Scotty Barnes. Future face of the slick.
- [143:07]
Max
All star caliber player who's got the.
- [143:10]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Hairline of the league.
- [143:11]
PFT Commenter
We're gonna get into into NBA soon enough. We'll probably do after the super bowl. We'll probably have Priscilla on for a full breakdown Preview. Yeah, yeah. Preview of how the NBA is going to go. This season's gonna go.
- [143:23]
Hank
Go.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. Good show, boys. Let's do numbers 100. Let's go seven for the Patriots. Number seven, Super Bowl.
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Hank
Let's go two.
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Max
I thought you were gonna say 99.
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PFT Commenter
No.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Let's go. 30. 36.
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Hank
Hey, I forgot I won.
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PFT Commenter
37.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
10. 66. This Mickey Mouse.
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PFT Commenter
Colton, what was yours?
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Colton, what was yours?
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PFT Commenter
10.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Colton, have you ever gotten.
- [143:52]
PFT Commenter
Have you ever gotten this?
- [143:53]
Max
Not yet.
- [143:53]
Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
I'm close.
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PFT Commenter
92. 92.
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Pardon My Take Host (Dan 'Big Cat' Katz)
Love you guys.