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NFL Preview With Pete Prisco, Michael Irvin, Mt Rushmore Duel + Listener Takes On The 2025 Season
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PFT Commenter
Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.
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Pete Prisco
Folks, it's the foreplay guys.
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PFT Commenter
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Pete Prisco
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PFT Commenter
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Max
I saw eight and a half.
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PFT Commenter
Eight and a half.
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Max
I'm not positive that's now, but that was the last I looked.
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Memes
So excited.
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PFT Commenter
I'm so excited.
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Memes
I cannot wait.
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PFT Commenter
Really.
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Memes
Thursday night's going to be awesome. But truly, I'm. I'm so pumped for Sunday when we just get lost in football.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. So obviously Friday will be our full weekend preview, which we do every Friday. We'll go through every game. But today we have Pete Prisco on, and we're going to do ourselves a little mini preview of our own picks, our own predictions, and we have some prompts that we said that we were going to answer. We're also going to play our game of new same faces, new places. I finally got that right.
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Memes
Yeah. You know what it is? It's just like, you know, somebody that will pop up in an unexpected spot this year in week one where you're like, oh, I forgot that guy now plays for this team.
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PFT Commenter
Right? Exactly. Exactly. All right, so should we start with some. Some predictions? Should we. Should we talk? So the prompts were worst thing that could happen to your team. And we'll go around the room. Hank, would you like to start?
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Hank
Sure.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. Everyone else can also add in what the worst thing that could happen to someone else's, too.
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Hank
I feel like this is a pretty blanket statement for all of our teams, but I think especially the Patriots, maybe myself, have been hyping them up a little bit too much. There's been a lot of, you know, weird cuts with starters, defensive players. It might take, you know, a few years to get back like that.
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PFT Commenter
Are you getting into rosters?
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Hank
Our roster is, you know, as I. As I was getting excited for the team, it's like I've realized, like, our roster is still not great, and if we get an injury, you know, to a Drake May injury early in the season, we could. We could be just, you know, bottom of the division.
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Memes
So your backup.
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PFT Commenter
Who's your backup? Oh, Tommy DeVito, Josh Dobbs. Josh.
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Memes
Josh Dobbs really into the roster this year.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. I mean, he mentioned cuts, and I was like, huh, what? Who got cut that. You were like, whoa, that's weird.
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Memes
I'll tell you who's not your backup is Joe Milton.
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Hank
Joe Milton. I wish he was our backup. That'd be more exciting.
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Memes
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Who. Who got cut that made you say, hey, wow, this is going to be. This is going to be a tough.
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Hank
I'm blanking on the name.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. But it sounds like it affected you so much that you've tried to black it out.
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Memes
Peppers.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Jabril Peppers.
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Memes
Okay.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. That is a. That's a name. Like, that's a new projected starter. No, I know. That's a name people know. I don't think that's. That's about it. He was obviously good at Michigan. He was a first round pick. Like, he. That's a name.
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Memes
But that's how you change the culture.
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PFT Commenter
You got to get rid of those guys.
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Memes
You got to cut a guy that everybody knows.
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PFT Commenter
Right.
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Hank
But when you're getting rid of those guys, it's like that. That means we're. We're not there yet.
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PFT Commenter
You were banking on real.
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Hank
Gonna take a couple years. Well, it's just surprising when it's like, you know, a projected starter gets cut right before the season.
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PFT Commenter
Question. Yes. Will you be taking back your words that you're going to have the best team on the podcast? No. Wow.
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Hank
This is worst case scenario. We're talking.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's fair. That's fair. Do you want to just share with us best case? Like, what you actually think is going to happen?
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Hank
Best case, 12 wins. Win the division. And do you think make The AFC.
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PFT Commenter
Change and do you think that's going to happen?
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Michael Irvin
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. Okay.
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Memes
Make the AFC championship. Not win, but make it.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to get crazy. Yeah. Okay. I guess I'll go next. Good job, Hank. I think we all know my worst case scenario. It's that Caleb is dog shit. That's pretty much it. It's Caleb is dog shit because even if the Bears defense, which I have questions about is bad, but Caleb looks good, you're like, hey, we could fix that. That's not worst case. It's essentially that everyone is good around Caleb and Caleb is just absolute dog shit. That would be worst case scenario by far. Yeah.
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Memes
Because then you have to go through an entire new thing.
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PFT Commenter
The whole thing.
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Memes
The whole thing.
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PFT Commenter
Although I do, you know, Beijing, I. There's going to be. If Caleb doesn't start hot, there's already a little bit of a Bayant crowd that's. That's starting to like, spawn on Bears Twitter and you're like, no way would this actually be a reality. You got to remember there was a full on civil war on Bears Twitter over Justin Fields and Caleb Williams. I.
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Memes
Can I push back on your worst case scenario? Isn't it worst case scenario that, like, you still don't know after the season if k. If Caleb's the guy?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. But it still is.
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Memes
Like, that'd be worse. Because if you still don't know, then. Then you have to do a whole nother off season. Like next year. In my worst case is that Caleb sucks.
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PFT Commenter
No, because even if he's dog shit, they're going to give him another year probably. So that. So that. So you'd have a nut. You'd go another year down the line and it would all be like, I.
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Memes
Could see Ben Johnson though, if he's really bad this year, just be like, we're not doing it. We're not going to do it.
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PFT Commenter
I mean, there's so much. There's so much put into this. No, because if he's like, if he's middle of the road, you could tell yourself you could win with that. Yeah. Like if he's actually dog shit and it's like he's. He's. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Like the, the finality of it would be nice.
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Memes
But I'm not saying middle of the road. I'm saying worst case is that you're not sure if he's dog shit.
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PFT Commenter
But that would imply middle of the road, like teetering. That would Be. Yeah.
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Memes
The bottom half.
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PFT Commenter
If you don't know, then that's middle of the road.
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Memes
Like bottom half of middle of the road where it's like, I. I saw enough out of him. We didn't win a lot. He didn't play well. But I saw enough, especially at the end where it looks now he's making the throw.
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PFT Commenter
Then I'd be like, maybe he. Maybe he could be good.
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Memes
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
But I put that still is like if he's dog. I actually think they would maybe. I guess there's levels to dog. But it would re. It. It would everything up.
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Memes
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
It was really bad. Really, really bad. Okay.
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Memes
I don't even want to say my worst case scenario. My worst case scenario. Because it does. I think about this every Sunday. Is Jaden Daniel's knee exploding? I think, oh, I think about it way too much. Every time he gets hit, I think about it. I guess worst case scenario is that his mom releases him from no girls and he starts dating girls. Then he gets bad at football and his knee explodes. That would be a bad one.
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Hank
What if his knee doesn't explode and he just bad.
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PFT Commenter
If he's Sophomore slump.
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Memes
If he just becomes bad.
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PFT Commenter
Well, I mean, they're.
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Memes
That would be the meanest thing that the universe has ever pulled on me. If, like Jaden Daniels goes out there this year and it looks like he got all his talent stolen and he just sucks, I don't think. And it was like a year of, you know, no one had. No one had enough film on Jaden last year, so they weren't able to stop him. And then after one off season, it's like the, the league found an answer that would just destroy me actually. If Jaden went out there and was.
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PFT Commenter
Just bad at football, has that not crossed your mind that, like, he's. I don't think he's going to be bad at football, but is there a sophomore slump in your mind? You're like, there's no way.
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Memes
I do think, and I talked about it with Booger, but I think that there is a great possibility that the team plays better and we have a worse record.
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PFT Commenter
So that didn't answer my question.
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Memes
Sophomore slump. He might, he might regress a little bit. Like, especially on fourth down. Like, it's impossible to be that good.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
Two years in a row. But I think he'll probably be better at some other stuff. I. I think he's going to keep improving, but.
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PFT Commenter
So sophomore slop hasn't really entered your mind?
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Memes
That hasn't entered my mind. But the Idea of him just going out there and sucking and almost like last year was a complete mirage.
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PFT Commenter
Well, that would be sophomore slump.
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Memes
That would be like, just. He sucks, though.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
Like that's. That has entered my mind occasionally. But I just. Every single Sunday when I watch him get hit, I think about, like, good God, it looks like his knee's about to explode and it never does. And I'm scared of the day that it does happen. If we're in the trust tree, I'm. I'm deathly afraid of it.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
All the time. And then he'll probably smile, Max, as he's getting carted off the field and he'll be happy.
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Max
Yeah, we'll. We'll get to my. We'll get to my worst case scenario.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. Oh. Oh. I guess I should have thrown my worst case scenario into the packers with the super bowl too. Yeah, I'm in conjunction because that definitely is on the table. All right, Zach, box.
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Zach
Two quick worst case scenarios for the Buccaneers. One is this is on trend for everyone else, but if Baker Mayfield gets hurt, he's one of the co captains at a team, has a great hold.
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PFT Commenter
On the locker room.
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Zach
The guys play for him. That would be catastrophic. Teddy Bridgewater could step up. But I want, I just want to see Baker have a great, A great season. We got some real weapons and wide receivers this year.
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PFT Commenter
I feel like injuries are kind of a cop out in this exercise because everyone. Injuries are just part of the game.
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Memes
I'll redo mine.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Zach
My other one is if Saquon Barkley avoids the Madden curse and is just on again this year, because if Saquon is nice again, I think the Eagles might win the super bowl and I don't.
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Michael Irvin
And I'm.
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Zach
And I'm trying to go to the super bowl and so Saquon's on then it's. It's an issue.
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PFT Commenter
That's actually smart because. Yeah, they would. They would if. If the Eagles go to super bowl, the Bucks will not be going to the Super Bowl. Yes.
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Zach
And I'm terrified of Saquon again, so I need the Madden curse to stick.
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Hank
Yeah, I can redo mine.
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PFT Commenter
No, yours was good because yours was talking about, like, the roster and that you're a couple years away and losing.
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Hank
To the jets twice would be worst case.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, that's a good add on.
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Memes
I think everyone rock. Everyone's worst case scenario is the jets win the super bowl and then memes is just.
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Hank
I actually would.
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Max
I bet on jets over. Over wins.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. You want to Redo yours because you know what I mean? Like, everyone could say an injury is a bad scenario. If you lose your best player, you're going to be screwed.
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Memes
Yeah. So my worst case scenario then is that it might be the Commanders win the super bowl, and then I'm just a dick all the time, and I'm just like you guys, and I completely change and I become a. And I'm walking around like no one can talk to me, and then no one can say anything to me ever again because I won one Super Bowl.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
That's probably my worst case scenario.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, that's. That's. I hope that doesn't happen.
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Memes
Yeah, I don't think it will. I don't think it will.
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PFT Commenter
All right, Max, I. I kind of.
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Max
Want PFT to take the headphones off for my worst case scenario.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, okay. Pft. You take the headphones off, please.
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Memes
You'll probably end up yelling, so I'll be able to hear it anyway.
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Max
That's true.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Max
Without PFT listening to this. My worst case scenario is that Jaden Daniels becomes Patrick Mahomes, and I have to. And I have to deal with Patrick Mahomes for the next 15 years in my division.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Max
If he just, like, takes the next.
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PFT Commenter
That.
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Max
The next step and it's just, like, unbeatable and is so good, and he's just there forever.
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PFT Commenter
That's.
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Max
That's worst case scenario. And I. And don't tell PFD about this.
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PFT Commenter
I won't.
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Max
I don't think about it that often. Yeah, but, like, because the Eagles, like, we're the better team now, and we have young players on defense and everything. But, like, what if.
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Michael Irvin
What if.
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Max
What if Patrick Mahomes is just in my division?
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PFT Commenter
What about the Eagles specifically?
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Max
The Eagles specifically. Secondary. I'm worried about the secondary. If the secondary just sucks and then our defense is in the same.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Max
And then we're. And then we're playing from behind, and then it's. It's a different game. But that. I. I'm less. I'm more. I. I'm more confident. I'm more confident in our defense than I am in Jane Daniels just not being, like, the best.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. Okay.
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Memes
Can't put my headphones.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, you put your headphones back on. Yeah.
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Memes
I was just thinking about, like, actually the scenario. My worst. It might happen because Jane Daniels might just be the next Patrick.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. In the. But a different division.
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Memes
Different division in the NFC East.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
And then we might.
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PFT Commenter
Patrick rose to the nfc, and then.
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Memes
I'd have to become The Nick Wright of Jaden Daniels is. Yeah, I'd have to just talk to Matt.
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Max
Jane Daniels beat no quarterbacks last year though.
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Memes
Joe Burrow is a pretty good quarterback. Jared Goff's a pretty good quarterback. Baker Mayfield's a pretty good quarterback.
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PFT Commenter
Does Jaden Daniels play against quarterbacks like this?
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Memes
Also a good question.
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PFT Commenter
Kinda did the court. Jared Goff plays defense.
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Memes
Jaden does play against secondaries and the Eagles. Max, I think you were saying last week that you're very confident in the Eagles secondary.
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PFT Commenter
What? Yeah, you did say that last week. When?
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Max
When did I. I said that last week? Yeah, I just said that was the one thing. I'm not confident.
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Memes
Oh, I didn't hear that. I didn't have my head so he.
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Max
Wouldn'T know that I said I'm not confident in the.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, you're not, are you?
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Memes
Cause that's who plays against Jaden Daniels.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
At least you're not worried about.
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PFT Commenter
I think, I think what they call that in the show business, pft, is intentionally playing dumb to you, Max. Cause he actually did hear everything you said. So now he's saying that the opposite of what you said in terms of the secondary.
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Max
Maybe Kenny Pickett.
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Memes
It was almost a tie in the first half of the NFC championship game at one point.
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PFT Commenter
All right, memes, jets win five to six games, miss the playoffs, get outside the top 10 and miss out on.
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Memes
A really good quarterback.
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PFT Commenter
So you just described exactly what's happening.
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Hank
Can I bet on that?
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PFT Commenter
Wait, Beams that was. That was not even. That's worst case scenario. That's not even close to a leap.
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Zach
Yeah, that's.
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PFT Commenter
That's the worst case scenario. I think you just described the jets season.
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Max
Both can be true. The jets season. And the worst case scenario can be true.
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Memes
The jets winning too many games might be the worst thing that can happen to you.
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PFT Commenter
So too many games is. I think we're in the playoffs.
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Hank
Would you rather them win nine games or three?
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PFT Commenter
But three if I had to bet design get you in the playoffs.
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Memes
No, no.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, three if I had to bet.
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Max
That is a lie, by the way. That is a lie that you memes.
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Memes
Is like all of us. It's like week to week, he's going to want to win on Sundays. You can't stop Memes from coming out locker room and competing his balls off. But in the macro, if Memes was a gm, he'd say, yeah, ideally the best case scenario would be we win three games this year, we get a great draft pick.
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PFT Commenter
But. But like all these scenarios are like there's a chance, but maybe it's not, you know, a full on what you described, I feel like is a 90% chance of what's going to happen. Will the jets win a thousand games? We'll find out Week one.
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Memes
That's the beauty. Football memes.
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PFT Commenter
I actually like you guys on, on Sunday. I'm going to bet on the Jets.
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Memes
They have to.
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PFT Commenter
They have to win Sunday. Yeah. It's a must win. Yeah. Okay. Let's not have any of these scenarios happen. Let's not have any of these scenarios happen.
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Memes
Agreed.
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PFT Commenter
Agreed. You think that if Caleb was dog shit, they wouldn't. I think they would still play him another year. Think about how many guys get three years.
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Memes
There's levels to dog, though.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, of course. If he's like all, all out dog, but like if it's more like. I know he's bad, but they're gonna have to give him a third year because they always give guys that draft that high three years.
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Memes
I think the problem would be, and I don't think it's gonna happen. I've been on record saying I think that Caleb's going to be very improved next year. I think that the Bears are going to be better than people think that they're going to be. But if it goes sideways, the problem is Caleb and his dad are going to have a media feeding frenzy this offseason.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah.
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Memes
And they'll. They'll burn some bridges. Fine though. So I don't know that he would come back for another year.
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PFT Commenter
The organization is definitely equipped for that. It's totally fine. It's fine by Ben Johnson. And I think Caleb's gonna have a good year, I think. Yeah, I think. But I, I love that you guys.
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Hank
Have a Monday primetime game.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, fuck you, Hank. You're such a sicko and a pervert and a weirdo. But that's the thing with the 1:1 pick is like you always. I think they always get three years. I would have to look it up. But I feel like guys always get three years.
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Memes
Yeah. So if Caleb were to be traded right now, before the season, what do you think? One first round pick?
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PFT Commenter
I have no idea. But it's. But that's where it's like tricky. It's like, I agree with you in a sense, like you. The middle ground. But the middle ground could mean that he could be good enough. That like, if you get the roster up, you could have a decent team. Right. Whereas like, if he's dog shit, I think they would play him another year and it would be like he's dog shit.
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Memes
Game manager. That would be very funny if people started to refer to Caleb as being a game manager. I mean, I said game manager.
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PFT Commenter
Game manager. Okay, should we do. Let's see. Mvp. Everyone got an MVP pick. I'm taking Joe Burrow this year. Joe Burrow is my pick.
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Memes
You know what? That was going to be my pick.
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PFT Commenter
But you can.
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Memes
You'll pick. I'm going to change.
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Hank
Taking Jordan Love.
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PFT Commenter
What are the odds for on the DraftKings sportsbook? You're such a dick. I don't know. You could take Burrow. We could all take Burrow.
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Hank
I think the packers are going to be filthy. That's not even trolling either.
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PFT Commenter
You heard prisco say it. Burrows plus 550. Plus 550 in this DraftKings sports recap.
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Michael Irvin
What do you got?
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PFT Commenter
PFT.
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Memes
I'm going to bet him again this year. I did it last year. It almost worked out. Lamar Jackson.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. Jordan Love is 20 to 1 on the DraftKings Sortster cap. Lamar Jackson is also plus 550. Boys in the booth. You guys got a pick.
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Max
I'm in jail and I'm picking Jalen Hurts. Everyone hates him and thinks that he sucks. And then he's going to play on a chip in his shoulder and he's going to win mvp.
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PFT Commenter
Whoa. And super mumbled there. I got what Zach's probably going to pick Baker. Yeah, I like. I like that.
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Zach
I'm also going to pick Baker Mayfield.
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PFT Commenter
I like that. I like Baker.
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Zach
Plus 2500 weapons.
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PFT Commenter
I kind of like the.
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Max
On the DraftKings sports bill.
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PFT Commenter
Bucks to win the super bowl just as a long shot. What's that odds at? Give me that real quick. I do like the Bucks this year. A lot. High on them. Do you guys want to do least improved?
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Memes
Yes.
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PFT Commenter
Least improved player of the year. A very mean award, but go ahead, Hank.
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Hank
It's just going to be tough because he had such a blazing hot first year and they have a much harder schedule. Jane Daniels.
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Memes
That's okay. I. I honestly agree.
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Max
That is also my pick.
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Memes
Oh, I think these are great picks. Listen, I've noticed that he's been getting a lot of hate recently in the media. That's fine. Chip on his shoulder. We'll be good.
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Hank
Bucks are 25 to 1 to win the super.
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PFT Commenter
Wait. He's Jaden Tails hasn't been getting hate in the media.
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Memes
I just heard two people on national sports. I just heard fact or fiction.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Memes
I heard two people. Two of the biggest voices in sports media just say that he was going to regress this year.
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Max
I also.
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PFT Commenter
No, no, they didn't say he was going to regress. Least improved doesn't mean he regresses.
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Memes
No.
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PFT Commenter
Doesn't get better.
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Memes
One of the guys definitely said that he was not going to live up to that first year.
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PFT Commenter
If he stays exactly the same, that could be the least.
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Max
I just said. The thing I'm most worried about is him being Patrick Mahomes. And you didn't have your head.
- [21:56]
Memes
I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. But I did hear one guy say that. Not. He's not going to live up to the. What happened in his first year. And this guy is locked in on NFL rosters.
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PFT Commenter
And where have you tried to find any actual hate for Jaden Daniels on. On in the world?
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Memes
It's mostly the comment sections.
- [22:13]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Memes
Mostly like that doesn't count. Little bro ass.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
Yeah. A lot of little bro ass.
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Max
I feel like you can't even find that.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I know. That's really hard to find as well.
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Max
Eagles fans.
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Memes
There's a lot of little bro ass out there.
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PFT Commenter
Do you think so? Yeah. You're. You're finding the little bro ass.
- [22:31]
Memes
I'm seeing the little bro ass. And then when I see the little bro ass, I remember the little bro.
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PFT Commenter
Are you searching?
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Hank
You can't go online without seeing little bro ass.
- [22:38]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but are you. Are you getting up? I'm gonna. I'm gonna find where the little bro ass is.
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Memes
Little bro ass might not be a direct qu. It might be an amalgamation of all the hate that he's getting that I've combined into one succinct phrase in my brain. That sums it up nicely.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. I mean that the. This is like when Nick Saban would be like, you know, they. They don't believe in us.
- [22:57]
Memes
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Like you. They. I don't. I haven't think. I don't think I've seen anyone say anything bad about Jaden Daniels. It's all. He's a top five quarterback.
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Memes
I've seen it. I've seen it. Well, the. The NFL top 100. He was in the teens.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, no.
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Memes
Yeah. Which everybody. We all pay attention to that.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. Least improve is Jaden Daniels for you two. So. You're right. Pft. There's a little bro ass going around. I'm gonna say least improved player. And it is kind of a hard one because he kind of stunk last year at times. I think Kyler Murray is just not going to get. I think he's already been what he's been.
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Memes
He's not going to get it is just what we.
- [23:36]
PFT Commenter
What we see from Kyler Murray. It was, you know, the first couple of years were great. Everything else, I think it's just going to stay exactly the same. There's going to be a couple of games where like, holy shit, he's awesome.
- [23:45]
Memes
And then he's just not okay. Mine is going to be a similar quarterback and a guy that we kind of believe in a little bit that it was cool to see his bounce back last year at the end. I think it might be Bryce Young because he was perfect at the end. So it's going to be hard to replicate what happened at the end of 2024.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. We'll have to. We'll have to check these against the numbers.
- [24:08]
Memes
LeBron might be ass.
- [24:09]
PFT Commenter
Might be ass. And he is the little.
- [24:11]
Memes
He's the littlest, bro.
- [24:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Zach.
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Zach
My least improved player for this upcoming season is going to be Aaron Rodgers. He didn't play most of the season last year due to injury. I think he's going to play it every.
- [24:22]
PFT Commenter
He played every game.
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Zach
My bad. I might be mixed up. I might be in a little bit of a blender. I think he's going to regret playing this year. I think he's old. I think he needs to go enjoy the fruits of his labor. I apologize for the year pivot. That's on me.
- [24:35]
Memes
Your pivots happen.
- [24:36]
PFT Commenter
He was a top five quarterback at one point.
- [24:39]
Zach
I think he's just going to be like, I should just go. Go to Boca, go to the beach, enjoy my life.
- [24:44]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Statistically, he was top five quarterback in like passing yards and touchdowns. It was because his. The jets hadn't taken a buy yet and he plays a. Played a Thursday night game before anyone else played that week. So he had like two extra games than everyone else.
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Zach
I'm out on Aaron Rodgers.
- [24:58]
PFT Commenter
I was wrong. That was a. That was a perfect storm of statistical data that you couldn't. Your brain couldn't handle. It said that he was in the top five. I was like, oh, my God, two more starts than everyone else at that given point.
- [25:14]
Memes
But memes, I don't hate it. You gotta. You gotta scratch and claw to play for your guy.
- [25:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Memes least improved, Patrick Mahomes.
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Memes
Oh, well, he was kind of maybe a down year last year.
- [25:24]
PFT Commenter
He was definitely had a down year statistically last year. You think he's going to not improve off that? AFC west is better. He's already really good. So it's hard to improve after being that good. But he was bad last year at times. Like, statistically, Patrick Mahomes had a bad year for him. Yeah, I just think he's on the downhill. Oh, how old is Mahomes now? 28.
- [25:48]
Memes
Yeah, he's getting old. Getting real old.
- [25:49]
PFT Commenter
He's getting super old.
- [25:51]
Memes
What about Naji Harris? At least improved. Yeah, that was my other out.
- [25:56]
PFT Commenter
Did you see that?
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Memes
He's been cleared?
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PFT Commenter
No. Oh. Petro was about to be 30.
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Memes
Really?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's gonna be 30 in two weeks. Najee Harris is a good one.
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Memes
Yeah, he's cleared for full contact.
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PFT Commenter
I was also thinking maybe Sam Darnold.
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Memes
Sam Darnold. Yeah.
- [26:10]
PFT Commenter
But he was pretty good last year.
- [26:11]
Memes
He was pretty good until the last few games of the season.
- [26:14]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but like the whole. I'm taking the totality of last year versus the totality of this year. Yeah. Could be least improved.
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Memes
I think that's probably a good point.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
We saw maybe the peak of Sam Darnold last year.
- [26:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Least improved. Okay, do you guys want to do your super bowl picks and then we'll do the new. New.
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Max
Oh, I have such a good guy for comeback.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, do it. Let's do comeback player of the year. Yes. Sorry, that's my bad. Go give it to us.
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Max
Ready?
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PFT Commenter
Yes.
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Max
Carson Wentz.
- [26:42]
Memes
Oh, you shut the up.
- [26:44]
Max
Go to the Vikings. Goes to the Vikings. J.J. mcCarthy, like, isn't it? And they're like, all right. Actually, we need one more year behind him.
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PFT Commenter
I don't hate Carson.
- [26:53]
Max
Wentz comes in, is. Is the Vikings quarterback guy gets them to the playoffs after they go down, like, lose their first three games.
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Michael Irvin
Carson.
- [27:02]
Memes
I hate it.
- [27:03]
PFT Commenter
I don't hate Max.
- [27:04]
Memes
Would you be so mad?
- [27:06]
Max
No, I would be so happy. I mean, the Eagles are good. Like, I, like, I don't have any ill will towards Carson Wentz.
- [27:11]
Memes
It.
- [27:12]
Max
We won that breakup. So it's like I want. I want him to have some success.
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PFT Commenter
That.
- [27:17]
Memes
That trade that you guys got from the Colts, maybe.
- [27:20]
Max
Awesome, awesome trade.
- [27:21]
Memes
One of the all time great fleecings.
- [27:23]
Max
It's a great trade.
- [27:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Great trade. All time.
- [27:27]
Memes
He's gonna love that stadium. That's the stadium that kills all those birds because they fly into the wall.
- [27:31]
PFT Commenter
That's right. Yeah, that's right. All right. My. I'm comeback player of the year. I'm. I'm going with Dak Prescott, I think, is going to win this award.
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Memes
Okay.
- [27:39]
PFT Commenter
I think he's going to win this award because I think he's going to. I think the Cowboys are not going to be Great. But I think Dak is going to put up his numbers and we're going to have. We're going to play with that whole like, ooh, are the Cowboys. Is Dak Prescott one of the top five quarterbacks? Like that whole discourse is going to happen at some point this year, but they're still going to stick.
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Max
You just kept saying numbers and me just kept saying three back.
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PFT Commenter
What are the. What's the comeback player of the year numbers? Plus 275. Ooh, okay, nevermind. Cancel that. Cause that's way too. He's the favorite by far. Oh, what about What a little TJ? Little Daniel Jones. 20 to 1 comeback player of the year. I kind of like that.
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Memes
I always like the guys that win comeback player of the year coming back from sucking.
- [28:26]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Like they just.
- [28:27]
Memes
Injury. It's like they were just bad at football.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [28:30]
Memes
And Holy. This guy doesn't suck anymore.
- [28:32]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's not as bad as he was. Pft, Hank. I'm going.
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Hank
Trevor Lawrence, he's. He's five to one. But yeah, it's kind of a gamble.
- [28:39]
PFT Commenter
I like it. He got injured at the end of the year.
- [28:41]
Hank
Injured end of the year. New coach, offensive coach.
- [28:45]
PFT Commenter
Stepping into his throws now.
- [28:46]
Hank
Might work out, might not, but it's.
- [28:48]
PFT Commenter
It's.
- [28:49]
Hank
It could happen.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Memes
All right. You guys are going to hate this one. Big cat. Especially because I know how he feels about this team. Tua.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, tua.
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Memes
Comeback player of the year.
- [29:02]
PFT Commenter
I mean, I like to. So I don't hate this one.
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Max
I thought you were gonna say Joe Milton.
- [29:05]
Memes
Joe. Joe Milton. That's not a comeback player of the year. Everyone knows that. Joe Milton's always been great.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [29:10]
Memes
You can't come back from greatness.
- [29:13]
PFT Commenter
But I don't hate the two a pick.
- [29:14]
Memes
But if everything goes right in Miami, he still has Tyreek Hill. If everything goes right, he still has a great offensive mind in Mike McDaniels. If everything goes right, it's the. Everything goes right. If. If it's a perfect storm for Tua, then yes, he will win that award.
- [29:30]
PFT Commenter
Are you a little worried you might be a year early on that?
- [29:32]
Memes
What do you mean? He needs to suck again?
- [29:34]
PFT Commenter
No. Get hurt again. He like, he'll like you're. You're. You're early on him playing a full season.
- [29:39]
Memes
No, I think he's. Tua's got it this year.
- [29:41]
PFT Commenter
He's got it.
- [29:41]
Memes
He's got this. They're going to limit the hits that he takes.
- [29:44]
PFT Commenter
He's been practicing karate.
- [29:45]
Memes
He's been Practicing falling down.
- [29:47]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [29:48]
Memes
They've probably got to slip and slide out there. They probably got the pad that he's practicing getting tackled onto.
- [29:53]
PFT Commenter
No, I don't hate that pick because when two plays, he's. He's, like, decent.
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Memes
Ye.
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PFT Commenter
Just.
- [29:57]
Memes
He's got to play, and he. All he has to do is just find Tyreek downfield.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, fuck it.
- [30:02]
Memes
Tyreek down there somewhere.
- [30:03]
PFT Commenter
Well, and also Tyreek has to stay downfield.
- [30:05]
Memes
That's true.
- [30:06]
PFT Commenter
He's got to stay on the team.
- [30:07]
Memes
He's got to stay on the team. He's got to stay off the Internet. Videos need to. He just needs to put up a filter online, being like, any video of Tyreek Hill that comes out is blocked.
- [30:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. All right, super bowl picks or. Sorry, you have comeback player of the year memes and Max or Zach Mash Crosby plus 2500. Okay.
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Zach
Nick Chubb, new team, fresh start. Physical running back, fun to watch.
- [30:33]
PFT Commenter
Love that.
- [30:34]
Memes
What are two his odds? Is he up there?
- [30:37]
PFT Commenter
Two has got to be up there.
- [30:38]
Max
25 to 1 on the draft king sports book.
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Memes
Okay.
- [30:40]
PFT Commenter
It's good. All right. Last one super bowl picks, and then we'll do Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and get to our duel. And Pete Prisco and Michael Irvin. Hank. Green Bay Packers, 12 to win the Super Bowl.
- [30:54]
Hank
Win the super bowl, man.
- [30:57]
PFT Commenter
Really? You really like that Prisco interview?
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Memes
I just. It's.
- [31:02]
Hank
I mean, the NFC north is tough, but I just feel like they're. The. Michael Parsons is a huge ad.
- [31:07]
PFT Commenter
They got it all.
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Memes
I got a question for you, Hank.
- [31:10]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [31:10]
Memes
Do you trust Matt LaFleur?
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PFT Commenter
I do.
- [31:14]
Memes
You do?
- [31:14]
Hank
I like Matt LaFleur. I've always liked him.
- [31:16]
Memes
You trust him? Big game, big moment.
- [31:20]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [31:20]
Hank
I mean, he's had. It's kind of like he's. It's the progression of. Of being a coach of his caliber. He's a great coach. He's obviously gone through it. He's been in these spots before. This is kind of the next step.
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PFT Commenter
All right. Pft.
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Memes
I'm gonna go with Detroit.
- [31:35]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [31:36]
Memes
The Lions, 14 to 1.
- [31:38]
PFT Commenter
14 1.
- [31:39]
Memes
They still have a great roster. Hutchinson back on the field. That's gonna make a big difference. Jared Goff, him. They've got a good offense.
- [31:47]
PFT Commenter
All right, Zach, not to sound like.
- [31:51]
Zach
A delusional fan, but I do think we have a great team this year in the Tampa Buccaneers, and I think there's a legitimate opportunity for us to go to the Super Bowl.
- [31:58]
PFT Commenter
Okay, so you're going to pick them as your super bowl pick?
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Zach
I'm going to Take them as a Super bowl pick. I'm going to ride that. Might be a little chalk, But I.
- [32:05]
PFT Commenter
Like 25 to 1. No, it's not. It's the opposite of chalk.
- [32:10]
Max
Eagles are the obvious pick, so I'm going to go elsewhere. Eagles are my number one pick, but if I weren't to say Eagles, I'm going to go with The Denver Broncos 22 to 1. Defense is incredible. Bo Nicks takes the next step. I think. I think they're a fun team at.
- [32:26]
PFT Commenter
22 to 1 memes. I like the Ravens plus 600, but I'm going to go with the Rams plus 2200. Okay. I like that pick. Devonte Adams is a huge upgrade. All right. The Bills is who I think is going to win the super bowl. If you wanted a long shot. I do. I just can't quit the Bengals. 25 to 1. Think Joe Burrow in a playoff setting. That defense can just be halfway decent. Just halfway decent.
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Memes
I don't hate it.
- [32:59]
PFT Commenter
25 to 1.
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Memes
You know what I've been to recently? I've been. I've been doing the fast futures on DraftKings.
- [33:04]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [33:04]
Memes
So they're like. They're futures, but they expire after four weeks. So it's really just the first month of the season. I got Lamar Jackson and Jaden Daniels to combine for 600 plus rushing yards after four weeks. So it's a perfect bet because if one has a down week, it doesn't matter. The other can run for 150 yards. You feel good about it. So it's combined for 600 plus rushing yards after four weeks. I got it. Plus 1400. I think it's down to plus a thousand now. Still, I think a good bet. Still a fun bet.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, that is fun. Fast futures on DraftKings sportsbook. All right, let's do hot seat. Cool throw and then we'll get to our duel. Hot seat cool throne. Hank you look up an NFL game. Maybe look up banner night in Philadelphia. Game time. The NFL's back tailgates pack stands that buzz before kickoff. But getting in nightmare queues, price jumps, getting logged out mid click. All you want is to be there beer in hand, losing your voice with the crowd. The game time app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use. The game time guarantee means you can't Trust you'll get 100% authentic tickets on the time, on time and at the best price. Plus fees are Always included. So what you see is what you pay. Looking at tickets for Banner night at the link.
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Hank
You can get in for $402.
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Hank
My hostage is team Europe.
- [35:36]
PFT Commenter
We're talking Ryder Cup.
- [35:37]
Hank
Talking Ryder Cup. They announced their captain's pick. When, you know, USA announced theirs. There's a lot of memes and. And tweets and stuff of people making fun of the US Team for being serious and stoic on. On their call. Like on the video call. Everyone was. Everyone had a straight face.
- [35:51]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [35:51]
Hank
Team Europe announced theirs, I think on Sunday or Monday. And to kind of troll Team usa, they. They made sure that everyone on their call was smiling and happy face. And it just made me want to beat him that much more.
- [36:04]
PFT Commenter
I'm so excited for the Ryder cup. And we gotta win.
- [36:08]
Hank
Gotta win.
- [36:09]
PFT Commenter
We gotta win.
- [36:09]
Hank
Gotta win. Gotta go.
- [36:10]
PFT Commenter
We gotta go.
- [36:12]
Hank
My cool throne is Max Johnson.
- [36:15]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [36:16]
Hank
Bad night for unc. Very bad.
- [36:18]
PFT Commenter
What happened?
- [36:18]
Hank
They. They got smoked by tcu.
- [36:21]
PFT Commenter
Can I ask a question? Yeah, because we. We recorded. Obviously it was. The game is still going on, but now that the dust is settled, we're day removed. At what point is it like legacy tarnishing for Belichick?
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Hank
It's not. It's different. Different sport different, different leagues.
- [36:37]
PFT Commenter
Same exact sport.
- [36:38]
Memes
Football.
- [36:38]
PFT Commenter
Same exact sport, but different.
- [36:39]
Hank
It's college. And I mean, there's. Look, Nick Saban.
- [36:41]
PFT Commenter
Is that why you don't watch college? You don't think it's like football?
- [36:45]
Hank
Him being horrible in the NFL doesn't tarnishes timeline.
- [36:48]
Memes
Yeah. Now if timeline Belichick left after like nine weeks and then got rehired by the NFL and then won like six Super Bowls, then legacy back on.
- [36:58]
PFT Commenter
I don't.
- [36:59]
Hank
Listen, he was great in college before he went to the NFL.
- [37:02]
PFT Commenter
What?
- [37:04]
Hank
Like, Saban was good and then he was bad and then he was good.
- [37:06]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, right. He finished good.
- [37:08]
Memes
Finished good. That's important.
- [37:09]
Hank
But he not in, not in NFL. He's never had it. He's never. Was never right.
- [37:12]
PFT Commenter
But he's the greatest.
- [37:13]
Hank
He's proven that. It's, it's, you can be good in one, you know, NFL or college and not.
- [37:17]
PFT Commenter
Okay, so you're right. I, I, I, I see what you're saying. But Saban also, like, it wasn't catastrophic. I'm asking if it's like, catastrophic, catastrophic. Like, is there a time where he's got a bail? And again, I don't think, like, it's legacy tarnishing. No one's gonna be like, bill Belichick can't coach football. He's not the best NFL coach of all time. It's more weird, weird shit when it happens at the end. Kind of changes how people, like, see it a little bit. It leaves a bad taste.
- [37:45]
Hank
I don't think so. I think, I think if it's a complete disaster, which I don't think it will be, but if it is, in 10 years, people will kind of just forget it ever even happened.
- [37:52]
PFT Commenter
Okay. All right.
- [37:54]
Hank
His legacy in NFL is so good that it's kind of, it's, it's not. People won't remember college if you went to an NFL team. It was a disaster. Different story, I think.
- [38:02]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Okay. Then you could play the Brady Belichick thing. Yeah.
- [38:05]
Hank
But Max Johnson almost lost his leg last year. Came all the way back, threw a touch onto his brother.
- [38:10]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Big bad Brad was in the stands.
- [38:12]
Hank
Wild.
- [38:13]
PFT Commenter
Some things love that big time. Some things. Do you think they're going to turn around? Yeah. Because you are as a die hard UNC fan as of this season. That was a tough night.
- [38:26]
Hank
Yeah, it was it. But again, it's a long season.
- [38:29]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [38:30]
Memes
Different sport, different sport.
- [38:31]
PFT Commenter
It is different story. All right. Pft. Your hot seat. Cool. Throw up.
- [38:35]
Memes
My hot seat is Jerry o'. Connell.
- [38:38]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [38:38]
Memes
Because we've got our fantasy draft coming up, and Jerry has been not the most responsive to text messages. You can tell he's feeling the pressure right now. And the league just up the buy in that we're in now. It'll interest you to know that the one guy that was very opposed to upping the buy in. Well, actually there were two. One was Jerry, because he kept saying he had to check with his wife, and his wife said no, despite the fact that, per page six of the New York Post, he said that him and his wife have separate bank accounts.
- [39:06]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [39:06]
Memes
So Jerry's using his wife as an excuse to cheap out, even though we know that that money is coming out of his account. And we just paid him $6 million to host Camp Barstool. And Jerry, I believe, Jerry.
- [39:18]
PFT Commenter
660.
- [39:20]
Memes
Yes.
- [39:20]
PFT Commenter
60 million.
- [39:21]
Memes
$60 million. Also, Jerry has taken upon himself to set the draft order in this league again, despite nobody asking him to, which I appreciate the self starting by Jerry. Somebody's got to do it. Someone has to step up. So Jerry set the draft order, and he has us drafting fourth. Seems like that's a spot that he would have put himself in. This would be the second year in a row that he gave himself an advantageous pick in the fantasy draft. And now the league is kind of revolting against Jerry for once again declaring a draft order without checking with anybody else. So Jerry on the hot seat.
- [39:54]
PFT Commenter
Do you agree with my take about draft orders in fantasy?
- [39:57]
Memes
I do that. I don't really care where I draft.
- [39:59]
PFT Commenter
I do. Like, I don't understand why people get so upset about where they draft or, like, it's rigged for the draft or you like what? I actually would rather not have the first pick in a fantasy draft. I think that sucks because you're like, this guy has to be good and he can't get injured because I'm not going to pick it again for like, 20 picks, I'm actually okay with.
- [40:18]
Hank
Four is a great spot.
- [40:19]
Memes
Yeah, four. Perfect spot.
- [40:20]
PFT Commenter
Four is a great spot. I actually love having like seven or eight and getting. Watching, like the first six picks go, and then knowing you can wrap around. I just. People get like. They're like, I see a lot of it because I pick. You know, people will ask me, can you do the draft for me? And I pick the draft. And it's like, oh, it's rigged. It's like, dude, what does it matter? It's a snake draft. Like, who cares?
- [40:42]
Memes
Yeah. That's the whole point of a snake draft is that it makes it advantage even to go at the end of the draft. I actually. That's the one spot I don't like going last.
- [40:51]
PFT Commenter
Oh.
- [40:51]
Memes
I like going last just because you feel like I'm not going to get anyone good. And then it comes to you and you're like, oh, I can get two good players.
- [40:56]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I like going last.
- [40:57]
Max
I don't like being square in the middle. I like, you know.
- [40:59]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [41:00]
Max
When my pick is up, be like, I got two guys.
- [41:01]
PFT Commenter
But see, that's why I. I feel like you can. You can argue this a million different ways, and it's all the same because, like, being in the middle, to me, whenever I get in the middle, when I'm like five or six, I'm like, guess what? There won't be any runs without me getting a pick in. You know what I mean? Like, there won't be the crazy. Oh, everyone just took all the quarterbacks, and I'm sitting there, and I don't have a pick for, like, 15 picks. So it's overrated. All right, go ahead. Your cool throne.
- [41:26]
Memes
My cool throne is actually the Carolina Tar Heels because Belichick said after the game that we're better than what we were tonight.
- [41:34]
PFT Commenter
Oh, that's good.
- [41:35]
Memes
So they're not that bad, per Belichick. He sees it in practice. I don't know. Do they practice?
- [41:40]
PFT Commenter
I.
- [41:40]
Memes
That implies that they practice.
- [41:42]
PFT Commenter
I don't know what they're doing because.
- [41:43]
Memes
Every single thing that could go wrong did go wrong for the. Like, they couldn't hand the ball off. They couldn't pitch the ball. They couldn't tackle. They couldn't catch.
- [41:51]
PFT Commenter
It was bad.
- [41:52]
Memes
They, most of the night, couldn't throw. They had one great drive that first drive. Also, if you look back on some of the tweets, especially from, like, Skip Bayless, after that first drive. Oh, he's like, oh, look what? Bill's back big time. The hell that Bill is about to unleash on college football is incredible. I think he said, wow, Belichick has a national championship offense. Heels just shredded the Frogs defense.
- [42:18]
PFT Commenter
It's.
- [42:19]
Memes
But, yeah, I think I'm gonna. I'm gonna trust Bill. He's forgotten more about football than anyone has ever known, which might literally might be the case. I don't know. He's getting older. But, yeah, he said, listen, you saw. You saw a team that was unrecognizable to me tonight. We're not that bad. We're way better than what we showed up.
- [42:38]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Or maybe they're unrecognizable they could be worse.
- [42:42]
Memes
They could. They might be worse.
- [42:43]
PFT Commenter
It could be worse than that. Yep. All right, my hot seat is us, because we keep forgetting to do it, but let's do it. Zach, give us. You have like, 10 to 15 names, some new. Same faces, new places. Give it to us.
- [42:58]
Memes
Give us the names. And then. Do we want to try to guess?
- [43:00]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we can guess them.
- [43:01]
Memes
Yeah.
- [43:01]
Zach
One name at a time.
- [43:02]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
- [43:03]
Zach
Okay, I've got sincere McCormick.
- [43:07]
Memes
Oh, I don't know.
- [43:08]
PFT Commenter
Ooh, that's a tough start.
- [43:10]
Memes
Very, very tough.
- [43:11]
PFT Commenter
Really tough start. Really? I thought you were going to do, like, guys who are maybe a little.
- [43:17]
Zach
We can pivot.
- [43:18]
PFT Commenter
Okay. No, no, go ahead, Go ahead.
- [43:21]
Zach
Daniel Jones.
- [43:21]
Memes
Wait, where's Sincere?
- [43:25]
PFT Commenter
I just haven't been. I haven't been very tuned into where sincere McCormick's been going. Good, good. Follow up Colts. Where is Sincere McCormick?
- [43:37]
Zach
He's now with the San Francisco 49ers.
- [43:39]
PFT Commenter
Okay, all right. Okay.
- [43:40]
Zach
Formerly the Las Vegas Raiders.
- [43:42]
PFT Commenter
Okay, that was huge. All right, so Daniel Jones, Colts were 1 for 2.
- [43:46]
Zach
Kenny Pickett.
- [43:47]
Memes
Can you pick it is not in Cleveland.
- [43:50]
PFT Commenter
No, he got trade.
- [43:51]
Memes
Raiders.
- [43:52]
PFT Commenter
Yes, the Raiders back up for the Raiders.
- [43:54]
Zach
That is correct.
- [43:55]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [43:57]
Zach
Tim Jones.
- [43:59]
Memes
Tim Jones.
- [44:01]
PFT Commenter
Can you use it in a sentence? Yeah, use Tim Jones in a sentence.
- [44:06]
Memes
Tim Jones plays football for the A.
- [44:08]
PFT Commenter
Tim Jones is one of those guys that. Football.
- [44:12]
Zach
Tim Jones has fled from one team. He has now found a new home at. And it's very cold.
- [44:18]
PFT Commenter
Vikings. That is correct.
- [44:20]
Memes
Oh, all right.
- [44:21]
PFT Commenter
Well, that was the coldest theme I could think of. Okay.
- [44:24]
Zach
DK Metcalf, he's on the St. Burs.
- [44:26]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [44:28]
Zach
Stefan Diggs, he's on the Patriots. J. Michael Hasty.
- [44:35]
Memes
Don't know.
- [44:36]
PFT Commenter
Don't know. Very warm.
- [44:40]
Zach
Close to a queeter. Yes, sir.
- [44:43]
PFT Commenter
I got one for you that. That I forgot a little bit because of maybe our lack of hard knocks, but. Or just kind of blocked out, but Joey Bosa being on the Bills. Yeah. It's always. That was. That's gonna take me a second where he's gonna get a sack like week two. And I'm like, oh, yeah, nice. What other ones?
- [45:01]
Zach
Braxton Barrios.
- [45:03]
PFT Commenter
Texans.
- [45:04]
Zach
That is correct.
- [45:05]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I follow his girlfriend online.
- [45:08]
Zach
Audrey Estimate.
- [45:13]
Memes
Don't know.
- [45:14]
PFT Commenter
I was high on him.
- [45:15]
Max
Eagles.
- [45:16]
PFT Commenter
Oh, okay.
- [45:17]
Max
After camp.
- [45:18]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [45:19]
Max
Zach, do this one.
- [45:21]
Zach
Puna Ford.
- [45:22]
Memes
Oh, he's on the Rams.
- [45:24]
PFT Commenter
Rams, yeah.
- [45:25]
Memes
Didn't even have to leave the building.
- [45:26]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he just went across the hallway. Puna Ford, quick trip.
- [45:30]
Memes
How did the charges let him out the door?
- [45:31]
PFT Commenter
Max, do you see any Others on the list that he should do.
- [45:34]
Max
I just really want him to do Punafort. That was. Yeah, I can't see the list.
- [45:38]
Zach
It's Gary Brightwell.
- [45:41]
PFT Commenter
Don't know.
- [45:42]
Memes
What are Gary Brightwell's career stats?
- [45:48]
PFT Commenter
Can you give us. Can you give us Gary Brightwell? What state.
- [45:54]
Max
State of origin?
- [45:55]
Zach
You want this? You want the state.
- [45:56]
PFT Commenter
The state of moving from.
- [45:59]
Memes
Moving.
- [45:59]
Zach
The state of moving. Moving from would be Ohio.
- [46:02]
PFT Commenter
Okay. The state he moved to. He just said, what state is Cincinnati?
- [46:13]
Max
That would also be Ohio.
- [46:14]
PFT Commenter
So he moved from Ohio to Ohio.
- [46:16]
Memes
Okay, well, I know that he was on the Bengals last year.
- [46:19]
PFT Commenter
No, he was on the Browns. He just asked. You just whispered what. What state is Cincinnati? And when I asked from.
- [46:26]
Zach
I thought this booth was a safe space. It's not a safe space.
- [46:28]
Pete Prisco
You said it out loud.
- [46:29]
PFT Commenter
You could hear it out loud and.
- [46:31]
Pete Prisco
Watch you say it.
- [46:32]
Memes
I thought he was on the Bengals last year.
- [46:36]
PFT Commenter
No, I'm pretty sure he's. He was on the Browns last year. Now he's on the Bengals. Right.
- [46:41]
Zach
I think we're going Ohio. To Ohio. Yes.
- [46:43]
PFT Commenter
It's an Ohio to Ohio transfer.
- [46:45]
Memes
He was signed by the Bengals in November, early November, last year.
- [46:50]
PFT Commenter
So he's still on the Bengals. So he hasn't. Oh, no.
- [46:53]
Memes
He got released.
- [46:54]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [46:55]
Memes
So he's not on the Bengals anymore.
- [46:57]
PFT Commenter
Oh, so none of this is right?
- [47:01]
Memes
Per Wikipedia, Gary Brightwell has been released. Sir, a second Ohio team has released Gary Brightwell.
- [47:06]
PFT Commenter
Well, I'm happy we got the Gary Brightwell updates because that was important.
- [47:14]
Memes
I mean, he's too good of a player to just sit out there.
- [47:16]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's always on the practice squad.
- [47:18]
Memes
Okay.
- [47:18]
PFT Commenter
Okay, good. That's huge. So the Bengals practice squad. All right, you got last one.
- [47:23]
Zach
Brian Robinson Jr.
- [47:24]
Memes
He's on the 49ers.
- [47:25]
Zach
Yeah, that is correct. Yes, sir.
- [47:26]
Memes
Yeah, he's gonna be like Forrest Gump meeting LBJ when he sees Ricky Pierasol.
- [47:31]
PFT Commenter
Good job.
- [47:31]
Memes
You wanna see my scar?
- [47:33]
PFT Commenter
Good job. With where I do. Was there any others? I don't think there's any other. I guess, like, I'll throw a couple out there. I forgot Mac Jones was on the 49ers. Yeah, it's usually, like, backups, where I', like, oh, shit, that guy's there. Cooper Rush is on the Ravens now.
- [47:53]
Memes
That's right.
- [47:53]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [47:56]
Memes
Who else?
- [47:57]
PFT Commenter
You ready for this one? This one actually is a very good one that we all need to remember. Gardner Minshu is a chief because that will us up.
- [48:05]
Memes
That will.
- [48:06]
PFT Commenter
That will definitely us up when that happens.
- [48:09]
Memes
Cooper cup is a Seahawk.
- [48:11]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [48:12]
Memes
Yeah.
- [48:12]
PFT Commenter
And Devonte Adams is a Ram.
- [48:14]
Memes
Yep.
- [48:14]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [48:16]
Max
Javante Williams. Cowboy.
- [48:18]
PFT Commenter
Cowboy. That's one Rico Dowdle. Panther. Yeah, that.
- [48:21]
Max
Yeah.
- [48:22]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [48:23]
Memes
JK Dobbins.
- [48:25]
PFT Commenter
JK Dobbins is a Bronco.
- [48:27]
Memes
Yep.
- [48:28]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. See, I'm good on these ones. It's the Gary Brightwells that really messed me up.
- [48:32]
Memes
I mean, that's on us for not knowing Gary Brightwell. Shout out. Gary Brightwell seems like a good dude.
- [48:37]
PFT Commenter
Gary Brightwell, he was on the Bengals last year. He got cut and now he's on the practice squad for the Bengals. But we, we got it. We got that right.
- [48:46]
Memes
He's going to be an impact call up.
- [48:47]
PFT Commenter
We got that.
- [48:48]
Memes
They're going to bring him up after like three weeks.
- [48:50]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we, we got that one right? Big time. And DeAndre Hopkins, Ravens. Remember that. Okay, let's do. Oh, my cool throne. My cool throne. I don't have a cool.
- [49:04]
Memes
Where's Odell Beckham?
- [49:06]
PFT Commenter
Odell Beckham's on the street. I believe.
- [49:07]
Memes
He's just chilling.
- [49:08]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I think he's just chilling.
- [49:11]
Memes
Somebody needs to sign Odell Beckham.
- [49:13]
PFT Commenter
Someone definitely needs to sign.
- [49:14]
Memes
And Jadevion Clowney.
- [49:15]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [49:15]
Max
Didn't you say you're gonna do Trump?
- [49:17]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah, Trump. Because I think he's alive.
- [49:20]
Max
Choose your own adventure.
- [49:21]
PFT Commenter
Choose your own adventure. Is Donald Trump dead or alive?
- [49:24]
Memes
Still alive. Person of the year is Donald Trump. We're gonna do it. It's a very special award that we hardly ever. A mid season takeies award.
- [49:30]
PFT Commenter
I don't understand what's going on because it's like one, like what actually is going on? I would let you know what actually is happening. Two from the people who brought you. Joe Biden is totally fine. Are now like we haven't seen Trump in like 24 hours, so he must be dead. We've all lost our brain.
- [49:53]
Memes
Well, it's. It's also like a week without him doing a press conference.
- [49:56]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [49:57]
Memes
And he loves doing press.
- [49:58]
PFT Commenter
Okay. So that's what he's Cuz I couldn't figure it out.
- [50:00]
Max
They're also posting pictures as if they're in real time. But like coders are going back and figuring out their SO Is.
- [50:08]
Memes
So they posted a picture of him golfing with Gruden on Sunday.
- [50:12]
PFT Commenter
I saw that.
- [50:12]
Memes
But we know that he golfed with Gruden a week ago.
- [50:15]
PFT Commenter
So is he alive?
- [50:17]
Memes
He's alive. Actually. Worst case scenario for all of us, Trump dies and then the start of the NFL season gets pushed back.
- [50:24]
PFT Commenter
Oh, I don't think they would.
- [50:25]
Memes
Didn't they do that with jfk?
- [50:28]
PFT Commenter
They might have.
- [50:28]
Max
Football's a different time now.
- [50:29]
PFT Commenter
That was the middle of the season, too, I don't think. They wouldn't take away week one.
- [50:34]
Memes
That was November.
- [50:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [50:35]
Memes
Jim Ursay was like, top is down.
- [50:38]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Okay. So he's. We don't know. All right. Fun, fun, fun online, I guess. I don't fucking know. I just. I just. It was laughing because it literally is the people who are like, joe Biden is totally fine. And then Trump, who could be dead. I have no idea. Doesn't play golf for a couple days. They're like, dude's dead. I.
- [50:58]
Memes
He's not dead. I don't think he's dead. But there's.
- [51:01]
PFT Commenter
But he could be.
- [51:02]
Memes
There's speculation that he, like, some sort of event, bad thing happened.
- [51:06]
Max
I think there was rumors that there was, like. Like a secret ambulance going to the White House.
- [51:10]
PFT Commenter
I saw his hand.
- [51:11]
Max
Yeah, look.
- [51:12]
PFT Commenter
Discolored.
- [51:13]
Max
It's. It's a bunch of. You know, I'm hearing this. I'm here.
- [51:15]
PFT Commenter
How about we do this thing, like, where we just stop electing politicians that are like, 90 years old? Yeah, that would be a good idea. We don't have to do this whole, like, hey, is he. Is he. Is he not? What's going on with him? Yeah, except Pelosi. Those cannons can stay.
- [51:32]
Memes
They ain't going nowhere.
- [51:33]
PFT Commenter
Timeless, those things are. Those things are timeless.
- [51:37]
Max
I think I would TF those.
- [51:38]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yes, you would.
- [51:40]
Pete Prisco
Yes, you would.
- [51:41]
PFT Commenter
Yes, you would. All right, Zach finished off hot seat. Cool throne.
- [51:44]
Zach
My hot seat this week is going to be Ronnie 2K and Mike Wang. Ronnie 2K being the face of NBA 2K with the way.
- [51:50]
PFT Commenter
The way he says these things. I thought for a second you said you were running a 2k, like a race.
- [51:57]
Zach
Oh, like a distance race.
- [51:58]
PFT Commenter
You said it so fast. I was like, what's going on? All right, Ronnie 2K and Mike Wang.
- [52:02]
Zach
I got to slow down. I'm start working on enunciation. We're going to slow down the cadence here. That's on me. I've been working on. It's not working out well so far. Oh, I got you. Ronnie 2K is a face of NBA 2K. Mike Wang, developer for 2K Sports NBA 2K is out for. If you pre ordered. Game hasn't even come out for regular orders till September 5th. Great game. Good shooting. Defense could be buffed a little bit, but there's already. You guys familiar with the Chronos Zim?
- [52:25]
PFT Commenter
Yep, Yep.
- [52:26]
Zach
Chronosim Scripts are already out for 2K26. So when you shoot a shot, you hit a green, like good, perfect release. So the Chronosim's a piece of hardware you plug into your controller and they already got scripts to just, just hack on, rage, hack on the game.
- [52:42]
Memes
So it's like Game Genie, possibly. You're not familiar with games.
- [52:46]
Zach
I'm not familiar with Game Genie.
- [52:47]
Memes
Game Genie was the best.
- [52:48]
PFT Commenter
All the best.
- [52:49]
Memes
You would just plug your, like Nintendo game into the Game Genie and then you put the game Genie into the, into the console and then you would just hack the entire game.
- [52:57]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you could just. You should go. You could go to the last level with Game Genie.
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Zach
We're Game Genie and. But it's online play and it's just people just rage hacking.
- [53:05]
PFT Commenter
Hank, you follow that?
- [53:06]
Pete Prisco
I know Hank said, Hank said yes.
- [53:08]
PFT Commenter
So quickly right now the Cronus, that's.
- [53:11]
Hank
That's a Call of Duty thing.
- [53:12]
Zach
Already got the two case straight.
- [53:13]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. All right. Your cool throne.
- [53:15]
Zach
My cool throne is to say I.
- [53:16]
Hank
Had the Cronus because I was so good.
- [53:18]
Zach
That's a great compliment, Hank.
- [53:19]
Memes
Were they saying Crohn's okay?
- [53:22]
PFT Commenter
Cool throne.
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Zach
My cool throne is Kai Sinat. He launched Mafia Thon 3 and that's always a fun time of year because he's on for 24 hours a day, 30 days in a row.
- [53:31]
PFT Commenter
Is he buying bots?
- [53:33]
Zach
There's bot allegations, there's some charts that suggest maybe botting, some that say no. But his concurrence are still up in like the hundreds of thousands post bot allegations.
- [53:41]
PFT Commenter
So yeah, he's massive anyway. But it's always so funny because like if you are, I feel like if you buy bots for these live streams, you're just waiting for the day where they get rid of the bots and you're just fucked.
- [53:51]
Memes
Does anybody ever get away with it for life bots?
- [53:54]
Zach
Yeah, I think there's definitely tons of guys still botting currently that aren't getting called out.
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PFT Commenter
No, I think the bots, they always, they always find the bots. It feels like just anecdotally speaking.
- [54:03]
Zach
Also a lot of times, like third part, like just fans will bot accounts. So like you're not even the one botting yourself, but you still get bot allegations because anyone can just go throw.
- [54:12]
Memes
Yeah.
- [54:12]
Zach
23,000 concurrent at your.
- [54:14]
Memes
They're false spotting people.
- [54:15]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Okay. All right, good hot seat. Cool throne. Let's do our Mount Rushmore duel and then we will get to Pete Priscoe, Michael. Awesome interview with Michael Irvin talking about the new Cowboys documentary before we get to the Mount Rushmore Duel, Chevy football season is here. And whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready. Chevy Silverado. The Chevy Silverado is a longtime partner, pardon my take. And our favorite truck. And it's all about grit. From job site to tailgate, Silverado lets you show up strong and tackle any task. Built for the hustle. Ready for the game. Silverado is America's most dependable full size truck. For J.D. power 2025 award information, visit jdpower.com awards Head to chevy.com to learn more and build your own Chevy Silverado. We love the Chevy Silverado. If you're a truck person, Chevy Silverado number one truck out there. So go get it. For JD Power 2025 award information, visit jdpower.comawards Head to chevy.com to learn more and build your own Chevy Silverado. Okay, Mount Rushmore dual time. Here's what we decided on Tuesday's show and here's how we're going to set it up. It is going to be pft, Team PFT and Hank versus Team Max and Memes in a three Rushmore duel. Now, both teams have not been given the topics beforehand. We did not collude.
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Memes
Not only Zach and Big Cat know.
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PFT Commenter
The topics, only Zach and I know the topics. We are going to say the topic. You guys get 30 seconds to, you know, write something down, no googling and then we will fire off. Also, are we going to say that because it's 1v1 to start. Like it's going to be Max versus PFT and then Hank versus memes. You guys can't talk with each other? Are you saying that you can't? No. No, no, no. What?
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Max
We can't talk with each other?
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PFT Commenter
Can't talk with.
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Pete Prisco
This is me versus except for I.
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Max
Think PFT goes to the couch for the 2v2.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Max
Because that way it's even playing field. We're both sitting next.
- [56:15]
PFT Commenter
That's fair.
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Memes
Okay.
- [56:16]
PFT Commenter
That's fair.
- [56:16]
Memes
Mega Duel.
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PFT Commenter
Mega Duel. So here's how we're going to do the voting. We're going to release all three polls on Wednesday morning at 7am so that we can get the most like the best voting in terms of people who don't know who picked what. They're just voting blindly. So we'll have this decided by 9am unfortunately, if you're listening to this later in the day, you won't get to vote, but at least you'll get to hear how it goes down. And then on Friday, we'll find out who. If you guys are going up against each other. Right side that for one punishment. Or you guys can just take the punishment as a team, too. All right, you guys ready?
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Memes
Yep.
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PFT Commenter
Anything else that needs to be discussed? Oh, and also what we decided on Tuesday's show. If Max and Memes lose, Zach and I are going to do the punishment with them. That is our punishment for colluding on Friday, I think. Yeah.
- [57:12]
Memes
So we have to sweep.
- [57:13]
PFT Commenter
Have to sweep. Team PFT and Hank have to sweep to avoid the punishment.
- [57:19]
Memes
No room for air.
- [57:19]
PFT Commenter
Should we talk about the punishment real quick? Yes. Okay. So the punishment is going to be the losers of Mount Rushmore season the week after Thanksgiving will do an entire week on the show with a very dark spray tan, frosted tips, puka shell necklace, pop collars. Entire week.
- [57:46]
Memes
Possibly cargo shorts.
- [57:48]
PFT Commenter
Yes, cargo shorts. Whole.
- [57:50]
Hank
You have to wear that in the office for the whole week?
- [57:52]
PFT Commenter
The entire week. Yeah. Yeah. You cannot. Yeah. It has just a show. No, no, no. But it's going to debut on the show. You're going to look absolutely ridiculous. We're waiting till after Thanksgiving because we want it. Everyone's a little tan right now. We want to make sure that it really sticks out. How ridiculous. And we're saying, like, couple layers of basically the Jersey Shore. When you close your eyes and think of the memes that would go around, like the Jagermeister guy or whatever.
- [58:18]
Memes
Jaeger bombs.
- [58:19]
PFT Commenter
Jager bombs from, like, 2010. That guy.
- [58:22]
Memes
I'm thinking radioactive. Jeff D. Lowe vibes.
- [58:25]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [58:26]
Max
Like, they're orange.
- [58:27]
PFT Commenter
Very orange. People are like, holy fuck. What is going on with you? What is wrong with you? All right, who's up first? Mount Rushmore Duel.
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Memes
Anybody, anywhere, anytime.
- [58:38]
PFT Commenter
So Max is you and me.
- [58:39]
Max
Pft. We're up first.
- [58:41]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Would you like to announce the topic?
- [58:45]
Max
So bad at thinking on my feet.
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PFT Commenter
Are you.
- [58:48]
Max
Yeah, yeah.
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Memes
You're more of a sitting guy.
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Zach
Do you have the finalized list?
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Michael Irvin
Yeah, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. I actually. I'm gonna switch. I'm gonna switch who we're gonna do it with, because I think it's funnier this way. No, it's not collusion. It's actually the opposite of collusion. Because if you want to say we told you one way, we sweet switched it at the last minute. That's like, what is it? What's the. The people who keep the, like, Oscars and Emmys. Price Waterhouse.
- [59:16]
Memes
Oh, the. Yeah, the. The big five Accounting. Yeah, yeah.
- [59:21]
PFT Commenter
So there's no way of you guys to have known. Because if anyone had leaked it, we switched it last second so that you guys would not be able to collude. All right, here we go. I'll say the first one. Zach, you say the second one.
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Memes
Memes.
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PFT Commenter
Yes, sir.
- [59:36]
Memes
Memes. Keep your mic on.
- [59:38]
PFT Commenter
Keep your mic on. Memes. That's a good call. All right, Max.
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Max
Oh, yeah. Well, I'll keep our mics on.
- [59:43]
PFT Commenter
Max. And pft, you are going to do the Mount Rushmore of people you'd switch lives with. It's a good topic, right? Good topic. Good topic. Who's gonna go first? I think, I think Max. Max. You guys decide. Max and memes. Do you guys want to go first the first time and first the, the third time, or do you want the snake first and third? What do you think, Max? I'll let Max go second for this one. Okay, so he'll go second. He'll go second. He'll go second in the, in this one, and then you guys will go second in the last one.
- [60:31]
Michael Irvin
Yes.
- [60:31]
PFT Commenter
Okay. All right, I'm gonna give you guys another 45 seconds. Let's talk amongst ourselves. Memes, Zach. Max took his headphones off to think. I'll give you a minute. Memes, Max. Or sorry. Memes, Hank, Zach. What do you guys want to talk about?
- [60:50]
Zach
You can feel the intense thought in.
- [60:52]
PFT Commenter
This booth right now. Max has his hands over his ears like a baby. He looks like a four year old with a fire truck going by. For those at home, he doesn't have much written down. He's a little late on this. PFT is going to go first. I have the timer set. You have 30 seconds. You have 30 seconds.
- [61:09]
Hank
Feeling like you should be able.
- [61:11]
PFT Commenter
You should hear that.
- [61:12]
Memes
You have 30 seconds.
- [61:12]
Hank
Definitely going to be, it's going to be like a chef, like a food Network chef. Someone on the Philadelphia Eagles.
- [61:19]
PFT Commenter
Yep, Yep. This is a tough one. It's fun. It's fun. This is a fun one.
- [61:26]
Zach
There's so many lives you could swap with.
- [61:28]
Hank
Yeah, you can't, you can't spoil this. But his first pick is 100 going to be Guy Fieri.
- [61:36]
PFT Commenter
PFT has about four solid names written down. Max is struggling and time. Time. He has time. Tell him he's got three names. Stop talking.
- [61:48]
Pete Prisco
Time.
- [61:49]
PFT Commenter
Tell him. Time. Time. Time. You had 30 seconds. Time.
- [61:54]
Max
I have three names written down. I, I, I'm panicked.
- [61:57]
PFT Commenter
I panicked, okay? The duels aren't for everyone. I mean, I'm panicking too, because we have to do the, with you.
- [62:04]
Zach
We need, we need Max perform here.
- [62:06]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Max, you got to step up, buddy. All right. Pft. You have the first pick in Mount Rushmore of people you would like to trade lives with.
- [62:17]
Memes
This is tough one. This is a tough one One.
- [62:21]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [62:23]
Max
You're gonna, you're, you're, you're in a better spot than me. I promise you.
- [62:26]
PFT Commenter
I'm happy we did this one and not the other one because the other one would have broken Max's. Okay. The other one has at least a fair.
- [62:32]
Memes
All right, number one. I'm gonna go with Leonardo DiCaprio.
- [62:37]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [62:37]
Max
Okay.
- [62:38]
PFT Commenter
Dating 25 year olds. Okay.
- [62:40]
Memes
I like boats.
- [62:40]
PFT Commenter
Yep. Okay.
- [62:43]
Memes
Thank you.
- [62:43]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [62:45]
Max
I am going to go with my number one pick. Timothy Chalamet.
- [62:50]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [62:51]
Memes
Okay.
- [62:51]
PFT Commenter
Pick. Good. Pick.
- [62:55]
Max
My number two. My number two will be this.
- [63:06]
PFT Commenter
Your life is so sweet that you don't even. You can't even think of anyone.
- [63:13]
Max
Cristiano Ronaldo.
- [63:14]
PFT Commenter
Oh, okay.
- [63:15]
Max
I didn't even have that one on my board. Didn't have that on my board.
- [63:18]
Memes
Okay.
- [63:18]
Max
I, I. Last second. I don't know.
- [63:20]
PFT Commenter
That was bad. Whatever that was.
- [63:22]
Max
Panic pick.
- [63:22]
PFT Commenter
All right. Yep. Okay.
- [63:25]
Max
Why did I say that?
- [63:29]
Memes
Oh, I'm going to go with Josh Allen.
- [63:32]
PFT Commenter
I had that. Oh, good pick.
- [63:34]
Memes
Should have taken him. Why'd you say Cristiano Ronaldo?
- [63:36]
Max
I don't know.
- [63:37]
Pete Prisco
He was.
- [63:39]
Max
Now I'm really.
- [63:39]
Memes
You could like, look at yourself in the mirror, be like, damn, I'm.
- [63:42]
Max
I don't know. He's like the most like, famous guy ever. Girls are obsessed with him.
- [63:45]
PFT Commenter
He's.
- [63:46]
Memes
All right, next pick.
- [63:48]
PFT Commenter
Saudi money. Yeah.
- [63:50]
Memes
Dave Portnoy.
- [63:51]
PFT Commenter
Oh, interesting.
- [63:54]
Max
Josh Allen's sick.
- [63:55]
Memes
A lot of cash. Just gamble all the time.
- [63:58]
PFT Commenter
Interesting.
- [63:59]
Memes
Make your own hours interesting. You've got great dogs.
- [64:03]
PFT Commenter
He's got a lot of work coming up this football season, but that you.
- [64:06]
Memes
Don'T really have to do. He does if you don't feel like it.
- [64:10]
PFT Commenter
Well, then, Then I have to do that. Yeah, exactly. Fuck. You got this, man. Okay, Max.
- [64:17]
Max
Okay, I'm going to go back to my original name that I had. Well, wait, I had two picks.
- [64:22]
PFT Commenter
You have two picks.
- [64:23]
Max
Okay, first pick. Scotty Scheffler.
- [64:26]
PFT Commenter
Okay, good pick.
- [64:27]
Max
It would be awesome to just be awesome at golf. Like the. Just so much better than everyone else at golf.
- [64:33]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [64:34]
Memes
Wouldn't have that same head of hair.
- [64:35]
Pete Prisco
Yep.
- [64:36]
Max
This next pick is going to be a bad pick. I know it's going to be a bad.
- [64:40]
PFT Commenter
Don't make it that.
- [64:40]
Max
But I can't think I, I'm make.
- [64:43]
PFT Commenter
A good pick instead.
- [64:46]
Max
But it's not that bad of a pick. No, it's probably a pretty bad pick.
- [64:51]
PFT Commenter
Oh, man, he's crumbling.
- [64:54]
Max
I'm going to go with crumbling. Okay, my last pick. Would you like to go? Do you have a pick instead?
- [65:02]
Memes
I'm ready to go, man.
- [65:03]
PFT Commenter
You're giving up your last pick? Come on. Come on, Max.
- [65:05]
Memes
Like the Minnesota Vikings.
- [65:07]
PFT Commenter
Come on, Max. Four people relying on you. Come on, Max.
- [65:11]
Memes
This is bad, Max.
- [65:12]
PFT Commenter
I want to collude so bad right now, but I'm not going to.
- [65:15]
Max
I am going to go with my last pick.
- [65:20]
PFT Commenter
There's. I just can't. Jesus.
- [65:22]
Michael Irvin
Come on, man. Come on, man.
- [65:25]
PFT Commenter
Come on. Come on, man. You gotta say. You gotta it. This is the.
- [65:30]
Max
This is the only thing I got.
- [65:31]
PFT Commenter
Shohei.
- [65:31]
Max
I don't know why.
- [65:33]
PFT Commenter
Okay. No, that's.
- [65:35]
Max
Shohei was my pick.
- [65:36]
PFT Commenter
That's not a bad pick.
- [65:37]
Memes
Okay, my last pick. I'm gonna go with MySpace. Tom, the guy that founded MySpace, has hundreds.
- [65:42]
PFT Commenter
Oh, no.
- [65:43]
Pete Prisco
Doesn't like it. I like.
- [65:46]
Memes
I don't give a if. Hank, that's a great pick. Dude has a hundreds. Hundreds of millions of dollars. He just fucked off and now he's on an island.
- [65:53]
PFT Commenter
This poll just got interesting. You both. You both kind of blew. No, I know.
- [65:59]
Memes
You guys are wrong. MySpace, Tom, is a great pick also, by the way.
- [66:03]
Pete Prisco
That whole.
- [66:04]
Max
That whole time I was trying to buy time, I was trying to think of a single musician. Couldn't think of one. Yeah, think of a single musician.
- [66:13]
PFT Commenter
All right, let's save honorable mentions. I'm going to give Zach. Let's give these guys their next Mount Rushmore topic because they're going to need a little time. This is what you guys would have been given, but we decided to flip it at the last second because we thought the minds of Hank and Memes will be very funny doing this one. Yeah. Zach, would you like to debut it and then we'll discuss.
- [66:37]
Pete Prisco
Okay.
- [66:38]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [66:39]
Zach
The honorable mentions, memes and Hank, you'll be competing in the Mount Rushmore of inventions.
- [66:46]
PFT Commenter
Oh, there's no way. We thought that would have been a little tilted in PFT's favor.
- [66:52]
Memes
Mount Rushmore.
- [66:53]
PFT Commenter
What inventions. Oh, wow. You versus Max would have been not fair. But this is very fair.
- [66:57]
Memes
I crushed Max in that one.
- [66:58]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. All right, so. So you can even think of a thing. Honorable mention.
- [67:03]
Memes
Name one human.
- [67:04]
PFT Commenter
Let's talk about. Let's talk about honorable mentions written down.
- [67:06]
Memes
And then I. Yeah, I thought about Shohei. I said, no, that's a bad pick.
- [67:10]
PFT Commenter
No one. No one thought maybe Bezos.
- [67:12]
Max
I thought about Bezos. But everyone hates Bezos.
- [67:14]
PFT Commenter
I know, but that's better. So much money.
- [67:16]
Max
Everyone hates.
- [67:17]
PFT Commenter
What about Steph Curry? So sick. Steph Curry would be so sick.
- [67:25]
Max
The only basketball player I could think of was LeBron.
- [67:27]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Steph Curry. University.
- [67:29]
Max
And then I went wemby. And I was like, that would suck being that tall. This is all what was going through my head.
- [67:34]
Memes
Steph Curry. Normal sized guy.
- [67:36]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. Steph Curry would be awesome. Who else? Who else would we. Guy Fieri. We thought you were going to take Guy Fieri.
- [67:44]
Max
Guy Fieri is a good one.
- [67:45]
PFT Commenter
Guy Fieri would have been a great one.
- [67:47]
Max
I still can't think of a musician.
- [67:50]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I mean, the positions are like old.
- [67:53]
Max
Post Malone's pretty chill.
- [67:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [67:56]
Memes
John Summit.
- [67:57]
PFT Commenter
John Summit would have been a good answer.
- [68:00]
Zach
50 Cent.
- [68:01]
PFT Commenter
50 Cent. Trey would have been.
- [68:03]
Max
No, I like my list. I like my.
- [68:04]
Memes
No, you don't.
- [68:05]
Zach
Jalen Hurts.
- [68:05]
Max
You like my list?
- [68:06]
PFT Commenter
John Mayer.
- [68:07]
Memes
John Mayer would be cool.
- [68:08]
PFT Commenter
John Mayer would be really cool.
- [68:09]
Max
John Mayer.
- [68:09]
PFT Commenter
Do your own music. Got to do dead music.
- [68:12]
Max
John Mayer.
- [68:13]
PFT Commenter
No, but.
- [68:14]
Max
But Swifties hate you.
- [68:16]
PFT Commenter
Who cares? They hate us. Anyway.
- [68:19]
Max
It's true.
- [68:19]
Memes
I almost said I went back to the well of the Kentucky Derby winning horse because then you just get to retire and just all day. But then that opens me up to you. Would horses.
- [68:29]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [68:30]
Pete Prisco
Yeah.
- [68:30]
Memes
And that would be a problem.
- [68:31]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [68:31]
Max
Has anyone been keeping track of this time?
- [68:34]
PFT Commenter
They're going to need a little bit.
- [68:35]
Max
Of time for pensions.
- [68:37]
PFT Commenter
Who else?
- [68:37]
Memes
Putin probably has a pretty good life.
- [68:40]
PFT Commenter
Why didn't you do Jaden Daniels?
- [68:42]
Memes
Oh, Putin. Well, he hasn't really gotten paid yet.
- [68:45]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [68:45]
Memes
But he's gonna get also the no girls thing.
- [68:48]
Max
Panic. Yeah, that's a panic. Jason Kelsey, also Joe Burrow would have.
- [68:55]
PFT Commenter
Been a sick one. That would have been a sick one. Because Josh Allen is married. Yeah. Joe Burrow still single.
- [69:02]
Memes
That's true.
- [69:02]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I'm trying to think who else. Oh, I would have maybe thrown out like a Usain Bolt or something. Just be the fastest man ever.
- [69:12]
Memes
That'd be sick.
- [69:13]
PFT Commenter
Would be awesome.
- [69:14]
Memes
What about. What about Travis Kelsey?
- [69:18]
PFT Commenter
Travis Kelsey. Yeah. Although. What? Yeah. Be sick. Yeah.
- [69:27]
Memes
What do you mean? What do you mean? What's that pause about? I just said but kind of waited for a while. There sounded like something on your minds.
- [69:32]
PFT Commenter
It would be. It would be so sick.
- [69:34]
Memes
Cat got your tongue? What's up?
- [69:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it'd be so, so sick. Trying to think who else.
- [69:40]
Max
I can't believe.
- [69:40]
PFT Commenter
I just couldn't think of who's like the richest. Who's Ah, it would be kind of.
- [69:45]
Memes
Sick to be like Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones's son.
- [69:50]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I don't think it like another, you know, or like, pick like an owner. Like an owner's son that gets to, like, you know, you're gonna get to own the team forever.
- [70:00]
Memes
Tony Khan.
- [70:01]
PFT Commenter
Tony Khan would be sick.
- [70:02]
Memes
Tony Khan be great.
- [70:03]
PFT Commenter
Tony Khan would be sick. He gets to do wrestling, and he's gonna get to do the Jaguars.
- [70:08]
Memes
Yep.
- [70:09]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. There's some owner's sons out there.
- [70:12]
Zach
Tom Brady.
- [70:13]
PFT Commenter
Tom Brady.
- [70:14]
Memes
We're getting a lot of time.
- [70:15]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. All right. You guys good? I'm good. All right, here we go. You have the first pick. Memes. This is the Mount Rushmore of inventions.
- [70:22]
Max
Leaving Mike's or leaving mics on.
- [70:23]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [70:25]
Memes
Come on, Hank.
- [70:26]
PFT Commenter
Hey, Hank.
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Memes
You got the ball.
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PFT Commenter
Hank.
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Max
I'm not even gonna look at you.
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PFT Commenter
Memes.
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Max
I was panicking so much. I had Shohei written down. I crossed it out and I wrote it again. We should put in the pictures of our notes.
- [70:45]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Memes
Whispering.
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PFT Commenter
Who's up? Memes. I'm up.
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Zach
I don't know what to pick.
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PFT Commenter
1.
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Pete Prisco
1.
- [70:52]
PFT Commenter
It's tough.
- [70:54]
Memes
The first pick.
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PFT Commenter
Would electricity be an invention? Yeah.
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Memes
That's a discovery.
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PFT Commenter
Is that a discovery or invention?
- [71:04]
Memes
Discovery. Not an invention.
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PFT Commenter
No, not an invention. You can go off of electricity. Oh, sorry. We'll go light bulb. Okay. That's. That's an invention.
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Memes
Yeah. Good pick.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Light bulb is an invention.
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Hank
We are going to go with. I am going to go with the iPhone.
- [71:23]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [71:24]
Hank
And the wheel.
- [71:25]
Memes
All right.
- [71:26]
PFT Commenter
Oh, good.
- [71:27]
Memes
Nice start. I thought wheel was going to be. You got great value on the wheel.
- [71:30]
PFT Commenter
Great value. Memes is a little befuddled. He felt good about electricity. He was the one.
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Max
Light bulb is still a good pick.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. But he also was the one who's like, hey, are we gonna pick you? You were ready to go. I have so many. Okay. Football. Okay. That's really, really, really, really good pick means. Oh, memes. Way to come back.
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Max
Hank knows that.
- [71:54]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
I mean, it's just.
- [71:55]
PFT Commenter
Well, Hank, we could, like, do.
- [71:56]
Hank
We could just do a best. We might as well just do best sports.
- [71:59]
PFT Commenter
But. Well, I mean, that's a really good pick.
- [72:01]
Max
You could have taken football.
- [72:03]
Zach
The ball or the sport.
- [72:04]
Max
You had two chances to take football.
- [72:06]
PFT Commenter
And then follow up. Pick ice cream. Oh, also a good pick.
- [72:13]
Hank
We will go with the Internet.
- [72:18]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Strong, Hank. Strong.
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Memes
Gotta close this out, Hank.
- [72:24]
Hank
And we will go. I mean, I do. Do you want me to go? I guess. You can't.
- [72:28]
Memes
You can't co. Can't coach.
- [72:29]
PFT Commenter
Can't coach.
- [72:30]
Hank
I'm deciding internally if I should just go with actual historical greatest inventions that, you know, procrastination or just, like, something, you know, cheeky, like memes is doing.
- [72:39]
PFT Commenter
Oh, well, just do whatever you want to do. Go cheeky.
- [72:44]
Hank
Right now I have wheel, maxes, iPhone.
- [72:48]
Max
So many fat jokes.
- [72:49]
Memes
No, there's a butt joke.
- [72:50]
Max
It's but about fat.
- [72:51]
Memes
But it's fat butt.
- [72:52]
Pete Prisco
It's.
- [72:52]
Memes
Your butt's out my bun.
- [72:55]
Max
But that's because I'm fat.
- [72:58]
Hank
Go the Xbox.
- [72:59]
PFT Commenter
Oh, hey, what are you. What are PlayStation people gonna say to that?
- [73:04]
Max
You could have said video games, but that's not like.
- [73:08]
Hank
It's not. I don't know.
- [73:10]
PFT Commenter
We took integrity. He's about integrity. Okay. Can't play Xbox without a television.
- [73:16]
Memes
Oh, thought you were gonna go TV with last.
- [73:18]
PFT Commenter
That's a tight one. That's a tight one.
- [73:21]
Hank
You think I should have done cotton gin?
- [73:29]
PFT Commenter
No, no, I think he did better with the ice.
- [73:36]
Max
I don't know what a cotton gin does.
- [73:38]
Memes
No, it does some with cotton. Makes you. Makes liquor out of cotton, does it?
- [73:42]
Pete Prisco
Right?
- [73:42]
PFT Commenter
No, I have no idea. All right, what was. What did you guys have left off the board?
- [73:47]
Hank
Car, Toilet, Guitar.
- [73:49]
Michael Irvin
Car.
- [73:50]
Hank
Credit card chip. Bidet. Cotton gin. Casinos.
- [73:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Car, shoes. Chili's music. Benihana, Double decker, taco. A gun. I just wrote heat on here. A toilet. The metric system, High speed trains.
- [74:11]
Max
Thought of so many. So many things. I could only think.
- [74:13]
Memes
Did you take people ac?
- [74:15]
PFT Commenter
No, dude.
- [74:15]
Memes
Air conditioning. Is that would be on my list.
- [74:17]
PFT Commenter
Would alcohol. Alcohol would have played, right?
- [74:19]
Memes
Alcohol. What about fire? That's, I guess, kind of discovery too.
- [74:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [74:25]
Memes
Planes.
- [74:25]
PFT Commenter
Cocaine.
- [74:28]
Memes
Yeah, that's a good one.
- [74:30]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. All right. That was a good Mount Rushmore. Good. I feel good about that. All right, the last one. So we'll give you the last one. I think maybe for the podcast listeners, maybe we edit out the time that you guys are going to be able to think because we won't. Zach and I won't talk during this because we want you guys to be able to. Really.
- [74:48]
Memes
We got to go head. Everyone headphones off too.
- [74:50]
PFT Commenter
Headphones off. So we'll give you five full minutes and we'll edit this part out of. Of you guys thinking. Okay, can Zach.
- [74:59]
Max
Can Zach sit in your seat five full? Because we need a headphone. We need to get headphones over there.
- [75:05]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, can you just. Yeah.
- [75:07]
Max
Bring those headphones to Hank C. And then you use PFT's headphones.
- [75:13]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, five full minutes because it's a little bit Of a tricky one. We were gonna go. We were gonna go letter, but then we realized the awls would be very upset about that. Didn't want to have it be decided on a letter.
- [75:24]
Memes
No Googling.
- [75:25]
PFT Commenter
If you wanted to. If you. If you wanted to play at home, the letter was gonna be B. I don't know if anyone wants burgers. Basketballs. Okay. The finale for the duel is going to be the Mount Rushmore of laws you'd make if you could be lawmaker for a day.
- [75:48]
Memes
Okay. And no Googling.
- [75:50]
PFT Commenter
No Googling. All right, I'm gonna start the timer right now. Five minutes. We'll cut this the five minutes out for the podcast listeners, but I'm gonna start the timer now. Okay, we're back.
- [76:02]
Hank
I have a question for the. For the panel, for the judges, please. Do you think this will matter?
- [76:09]
PFT Commenter
I don't. I think it probably went 1:1 if I had to guess.
- [76:15]
Max
I have a question.
- [76:15]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [76:16]
Max
Do these have to be logical?
- [76:18]
PFT Commenter
No.
- [76:18]
Max
Okay, good.
- [76:19]
PFT Commenter
Not at all. So it's Mount Rushmore of laws you would make if you were a lawmaker for a day. So the laws stay forever. You just become a lawmaker for a day and you're like, I want this law. I want that law. I want this law.
- [76:33]
Zach
I think there's no way to know until the polls come out. If they come out like. But if we're doing them hour by hour, like, if you did them all.
- [76:39]
PFT Commenter
At once, that hit him. Shaking his head like that at you was very patronizing. Well, I asked.
- [76:44]
Hank
I asked an opinionated question, and he just.
- [76:46]
Memes
I.
- [76:46]
Hank
You know, he didn't give me an answer. It was a yes or no. And you said, I'm telling you, I.
- [76:50]
Zach
Think they matter if the polls come out hour by hour. If they all come out at once, I think you guys lost.
- [76:55]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Okay. That makes sense. It's actually a fair answer. Yeah. And what did we decide? Are they all coming out at once?
- [77:00]
Max
Yes.
- [77:00]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Okay.
- [77:04]
Max
So you guys go first.
- [77:05]
PFT Commenter
Hank and pft, you're up first. Mount Rushmore of laws you'd make if you were a lawmaker for a day.
- [77:10]
Memes
Day after the super bowl is holiday.
- [77:12]
PFT Commenter
Good pick.
- [77:12]
Max
We had it.
- [77:13]
Memes
One. One good pick.
- [77:14]
PFT Commenter
They had it.
- [77:15]
Max
Then we realized there's a much better. There's a much better pick there.
- [77:19]
Memes
Oh, much better.
- [77:20]
PFT Commenter
Pick it Max.
- [77:21]
Max
Four day work week.
- [77:22]
Memes
Oh, all right, all right.
- [77:23]
PFT Commenter
Communist Four day work week.
- [77:25]
Hank
I said. DFT said no.
- [77:27]
Memes
Well, I thought that there. There's gonna be a lot of people out there being like you, entitled millennials and Gen zers. You don't want to work anymore. You don't know the value of a hard day's work.
- [77:35]
Max
Four days.
- [77:36]
Memes
You want everything handed to you.
- [77:37]
Max
Four days.
- [77:38]
PFT Commenter
What are we, people?
- [77:39]
Hank
Just go to work and mail it in?
- [77:40]
Memes
Max is a place.
- [77:41]
Hank
Why not just go and be efficient?
- [77:43]
Max
I like it. They're fighting with each other.
- [77:44]
Memes
Max. There's a place like that. It's called Europe.
- [77:46]
PFT Commenter
Important question, though, Max. Would it be Monday or Friday?
- [77:51]
Max
I would say.
- [77:57]
PFT Commenter
Friday, so. Wrong answer. Wrong answer. Monday is by far because you. You have a regular weekend, and then Monday you use as your get back day.
- [78:07]
Max
Yeah, no, I would rather you have a longer weekend.
- [78:09]
PFT Commenter
No, it's Max. Same amount of days.
- [78:13]
Max
No, but. No, because you treat it different.
- [78:15]
Hank
Friday already is a weekend day.
- [78:17]
PFT Commenter
Friday's already the best day on the calendar. Monday, you were raised.
- [78:20]
Max
Thursday is awesome.
- [78:22]
PFT Commenter
No, but Thursday already is kind of awesome.
- [78:24]
Max
But then Wednesday becomes awesome.
- [78:25]
PFT Commenter
No, Wednesday is. Is fine. You just have Wednesday.
- [78:28]
Max
Whatever.
- [78:29]
Memes
You get Monday off. Then you get to party all day on Sunday.
- [78:32]
PFT Commenter
Right? And then also your Monday is your recoup day. Do laundry, go to the gym, all that stuff. Friday, you would never do any of that.
- [78:38]
Memes
Yeah, Monday would be like a.
- [78:40]
PFT Commenter
Also, why not?
- [78:41]
Hank
Why not just one day work week. If we're going to logical.
- [78:44]
PFT Commenter
Well, people gotta work.
- [78:45]
Max
Yeah, people gotta work.
- [78:46]
PFT Commenter
Come on.
- [78:47]
Memes
Not in Max's world.
- [78:48]
Max
All right, this is another thing that doesn't really make sense in a real world. But that's. This is the one where I asked the question, does it have to be logical?
- [78:56]
Memes
Okay, then yeah, just no work.
- [78:57]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [78:57]
Max
No, no, this one no working. We all not no work, but no taxes.
- [79:00]
PFT Commenter
No taxes. Okay. Good pick. I think these guys might have had it as well.
- [79:04]
Memes
Good pick. We did have that one.
- [79:05]
PFT Commenter
Okay. That was the first thing Hank said. He said, no taxes, no work.
- [79:11]
Memes
Okay.
- [79:11]
Pete Prisco
We're like still get paid.
- [79:13]
Memes
We're gonna go with you microwave seafood at work, you go to jail.
- [79:18]
PFT Commenter
Oh, I like that one.
- [79:20]
Memes
Jail pick immediately get you get escorted out in handcuffs.
- [79:23]
PFT Commenter
Zach.
- [79:24]
Zach
I think it's a good pick.
- [79:25]
PFT Commenter
You ever do that at the. At the dealership? No.
- [79:27]
Zach
You got to know there's going to be an aroma that you should put other people through with that.
- [79:31]
PFT Commenter
Your eyes are so blue and striking from this distance. I appreciate that. Okay. Sorry if that was weird.
- [79:38]
Memes
We're talking about jail. And so Big Cat started going back to the jail thing.
- [79:41]
Zach
Back to top, bottom bunk.
- [79:42]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [79:42]
Memes
All right, next pick. Ours.
- [79:45]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [79:45]
Memes
Release all the Epstein files.
- [79:47]
PFT Commenter
Ooh, all of them.
- [79:49]
Max
That's a good Pick. I didn't think of it, but that's a really good pick.
- [79:52]
PFT Commenter
For real?
- [79:52]
Max
This is a really good pick.
- [79:54]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [79:54]
Memes
Your pedophile prison.
- [79:56]
Max
Yeah, that's a really good pick.
- [79:58]
Memes
Possibly executed.
- [80:00]
Max
It's a really good pick.
- [80:03]
PFT Commenter
Our next pick, we're going to go with universal healthcare.
- [80:06]
Memes
Oh, yeah. You guys are taking Europe.
- [80:08]
PFT Commenter
Nice. Like that pick. To top off Europe, we're going to go legalize prostitution. Oh, I. I like your world. That's a good world.
- [80:20]
Memes
I mean, that's the horniest thing anyone's ever said on the show.
- [80:22]
PFT Commenter
That's a good world. Memes, will you. Are you going to say anything to the horniest accusations? No. Legalizing prostitution is actually better. It's better for the women. A lot of women get trapped out. It's also legalize it. Let the women get paid. And would you partake in the legalized prostitution? I might become one. Good answer.
- [80:46]
Max
Great answer.
- [80:48]
PFT Commenter
The last pick.
- [80:48]
Memes
All right, where are we going here?
- [80:50]
PFT Commenter
I love the face Hank has because it means that PFT might go rogue.
- [80:53]
Memes
I might go rogue, and I love that I'm gonna go rogue. Commercials have to be the same volume as the TV shows that they're on.
- [81:00]
PFT Commenter
Okay. All right. Good pick. Good pick. Good pick.
- [81:04]
Memes
I don't like. I don't like the fluctuations.
- [81:06]
PFT Commenter
What else did you guys have?
- [81:09]
Hank
We had banning all the things that convenience stores asking for a tip.
- [81:14]
PFT Commenter
Oh, that's good.
- [81:15]
Memes
We had a refund on all subscriptions that you haven't used in a year like that.
- [81:23]
PFT Commenter
I would have picked all games have to go over memes.
- [81:28]
Max
That's not exactly similar, but sports related.
- [81:30]
PFT Commenter
You can say that sports owners need to sell their team if the team doesn't make the playoffs for five years. Yeah. That's my rule. Yeah.
- [81:36]
Memes
I had just arrest Max.
- [81:39]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [81:40]
Max
Yep.
- [81:40]
Memes
I would just arrest Max.
- [81:41]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Fix all roads. Oh, good one.
- [81:44]
Memes
That's good.
- [81:45]
PFT Commenter
Fix all roads is a great one.
- [81:47]
Max
But no traffic.
- [81:48]
PFT Commenter
No traffic.
- [81:49]
Max
You just fix them without, like, having to spend the time to get things.
- [81:53]
PFT Commenter
Just like everyone does a week off and we just fix all the roads.
- [81:57]
Max
I. That's a great idea.
- [81:58]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Why do we do that during COVID.
- [82:00]
Max
If we just did one week and no more traffic.
- [82:02]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Every day inside for one week, no more traffic.
- [82:05]
Memes
Drugs are all legal. If you can prove that you can handle them.
- [82:08]
Max
I. I said that, and meme said that was a bad idea.
- [82:10]
PFT Commenter
If you can hang.
- [82:11]
Memes
If you can hang.
- [82:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [82:12]
Memes
You do like a supervised hang sesh. Hang sesh with a monitor. And they're like, okay, this Guy's cool.
- [82:19]
PFT Commenter
Okay. High speed trains. That was on my last one, too.
- [82:23]
Memes
I just like looking at the props. Yeah. You guys, you guys drafted Europe on in Mount Rushmore, which is. That's something I would expect out of Hank, to be honest.
- [82:30]
Max
Hank, you were fighting against PFT for my picks.
- [82:35]
Memes
Well, Hank loves Europe. We know that.
- [82:37]
Hank
Well, no, that's just specifically the work one.
- [82:40]
Max
Taxes.
- [82:41]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [82:42]
Hank
But there's places in America with no taxes or whatever. No state income tax.
- [82:49]
PFT Commenter
All right, all right.
- [82:51]
Memes
I think we might have gone two for three.
- [82:53]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we'll see. I think it was a vote. I feel good. Good, Feel good. All right.
- [82:59]
Michael Irvin
Good, good.
- [82:59]
PFT Commenter
Mount Rushmore duel, boys. I feel like everyone put their best foot forward.
- [83:04]
Memes
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- [84:06]
PFT Commenter
Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests. It's become a tradition. He's a very special guest. It's Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnist for CBSSports.com and analyst for CBS Sports HQ. Pete, it's the best week of the year. Football is back. We're ready to roll. We want to do a comprehensive NFL preview with you. Let's maybe do it a little bit in order. Do you want to go division by division? Because it might be. And then we can pop up with questions here and there.
- [84:36]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, sure. All right, let's do it that way.
- [84:38]
PFT Commenter
All right.
- [84:38]
Pete Prisco
Let's not revisit all my stupid picks from a year ago either.
- [84:41]
PFT Commenter
What was the stupid.
- [84:42]
Memes
I'd forgotten what your stupid picks were last year, by the way.
- [84:44]
PFT Commenter
I almost just said what was the stupidest pick? What was the dumbest pick you had.
- [84:48]
Pete Prisco
Will Levis would be really good.
- [84:50]
PFT Commenter
Oh, and then the year before you had Jaguars in the Super Bowl.
- [84:54]
Memes
The schedule, though. You remember the schedule?
- [84:56]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, yeah, the schedule.
- [84:58]
PFT Commenter
The schedule.
- [84:58]
Pete Prisco
We didn't, we didn't know Doug Peterson would be a disaster, did we?
- [85:01]
PFT Commenter
Okay. All right. So yeah, this doesn't, this doesn't really bode well for our big NFL preview when we start with that. All right, let's start with, let's do the AFC east first. Bills. Easy winner for the Bills. Tell us your thoughts about the AFC East. Maybe surprise team. I have a, I have a take and you could tell me if I'm wrong. I think the Dolphins have a chance to be disastrous.
- [85:21]
Pete Prisco
I tend to agree with you. I don't like that team at all. I think they're going to have big changes after the season. I would agree with you 100% on the dolphins. I think the Bills run away with it. And if you look at the bill schedule, the Bill schedule is as favorable as any first place team has ever had. They play all the tough teams at home. They don't go any further west than Houston when they play the Texans. And they have the look to me of a 13 win team. I really believe that maybe 14. I think they run away with the division, their class of it. Look at their schedule to open the season before they play the Chiefs. If they beat the Raven. Now, the Ravens is a tough game at home, but you're supposed to win that game on a Sunday night and then look at the next games before they play the Chiefs. They should almost, they should be winning every one of those games.
- [86:08]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, they have the Jets, Dolphins, Saints, Patriots, Falcons, Panthers. Yeah, you're, I mean, schedule, you're right. That's a nice schedule to start the season.
- [86:17]
Memes
It sounds like you're saying that you're not, you're not a believer just yet in Drake May.
- [86:22]
Pete Prisco
No, I'm a believer in Drake May. I'm just not a believer in that team this year. I think they're a year away. I, I think getting brave on there, they'll instill the toughness. They have six new guys starting on defense. I mean, that they picked up in free agency. That's hard to mesh that group together. But I think next year they're going to be really good. So I think they're a year away.
- [86:41]
Memes
Okay, what about the, what about the South? The AFC South? Are you thinking the Jaguars? I mean, it's kind of, kind of a make a break here.
- [86:48]
PFT Commenter
Memes just was like what the. Because we didn't say anything about the Jets.
- [86:51]
Memes
Oh, yeah.
- [86:52]
PFT Commenter
Come back. We'll come back to the Jets.
- [86:53]
Memes
We'll circle back on the. We'll put them in a holding pattern right now.
- [86:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [86:56]
Memes
What about the South Pete? The Jaguars?
- [86:59]
Pete Prisco
Well, I think the division's bad. I'll be. I'll start there. I don't think it's a very good division. I think the Texans schedule is brutal. I don't think they've improved their offensive line, but I'm still picking them. I think their defense is going to be nasty, but it's going to be close. I think. I think Jacksonville is going to be right there with them. You know, the winner will win nine games. They're not going to run away with it. None of those teams in that division are very good. And so I think the Texans are the best team because of their defense, but I worry about their offensive line. I mean, you got a rookie starting at left tackle and nursery. The right tackle they got is okay. The two guards, Tomlinson and Ed Ingram was the worst lineman on. On Minnesota last year. I just don't like their offensive line. I think that's going to be a problem for them. I think they win the division barely over Jackson.
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PFT Commenter
What's a successful season for the Titans in Cam Ward? Because I'm excited about Cam Ward, and I think the Titans could maybe be a little bit friskier than people expect and be in some of these games and maybe have a say in the AFC south whether they win it or not. But, you know, a team that kind of can beat a Texans late can be the Jaguars late and upset the whole division.
- [88:06]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, I don't. I don't think they have enough talent on that team. I think he's going to be okay, and he didn't look great in the preseason, I'll be honest with you. But I think he's going to be good. He's smart, he's accurate, he can throw the football. He's got that, you know, first one in, last one out. So I do think he'll be good. I just don't know where the talent is on that team. They think they've upgraded the offensive line by getting Dan Moore. He wasn't that good last year. I think the offensive line might be better, but not how much better. Aside from Ridley, where is he throwing the football to? And defensively, they just. Just don't have a lot of playmakers outside of Simmons, so I don't know how much better they'll be. I think they're another team. You got to look to the future. The question is, does Brian Callahan get to be part of that future?
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Memes
And what about the Colts? Because some are saying that if Daniel Jones can be Andy Dalton, then the Colts should make the playoffs this year. Do you think Daniel Jones can be Andy Dalton?
- [88:56]
Pete Prisco
No, I don't think he's going to be that good again. I get the idea that don't mess it up. Turn and hand the ball off the Taylor, pretty good offensive line. Playmakers off the play action. You got the tight end, the rookie tight end. Warren's going to catch a ton of passes. So I get that whole idea, but I don't know if Daniel Jones is capable of putting it on his right arm when he has to. Andy Dalton could at times. I mean, Andy Dalton threw the ball around pretty well at times. I don't know if Daniel Jones can do that. So I don't think they're a playoff team. The fact that it was a competition with Anthony Richardson speaks a lot of things about Daniel Jones, but it also speaks a lot of things about Anthony and where the Colts are. They could have changes after the season.
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PFT Commenter
So in your advanced analytics and really you watch the tape more than anything, you're a tape watcher. What type of bump do you give the Colts? Just not having Gus Bradley in the building anymore?
- [89:50]
Pete Prisco
Well, they'll be less predictable. But you know, it's funny, they replaced it with Anna Rumo, who was predictable in Cincinnati, right?
- [89:57]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [89:57]
Memes
I mean, at the end. Yeah, but for a while he was a pretty good coordinator.
- [90:01]
Pete Prisco
But then they played all kind. All they did was play zone and it became very predictable. In fact, they had a lot of guys that were man to man corners that should have been playing more man. They played zone. So I do think they'll be better on defense. They. They also have some corner issues. I mean, they were going to start a rookie corner and he got hurt, the kid from Minnesota, and he went down. And now they're going to start Jalen Jones at one corner. So they're going to have some problems at corner as well. I do think they'll be a little bit better on defense. Again, it's Daniel Jones. If the game's on the line in the third and fourth quarter, can Daniel Jones go win the game with his right arm? I don't know if he can.
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PFT Commenter
Danny Dimes.
- [90:35]
Memes
Yeah, I just, I, I see the fact that he spent half a season in Minnesota and I'm like, he's fixed and he's going to come out he's going to be great. That's that. That's my blind analytics going in the season.
- [90:46]
Pete Prisco
I like that. Well, everybody, everybody goes to Minnesota gets fixed. Right. Sam Darnold got fixed and JJ McCarthy is going to suddenly be able to hit everything that he never could hit before. Before. It's all getting fixed in Minnesota.
- [90:59]
Memes
Yeah. All right. So what about the AFC West? Tell me what you think about the Chiefs going to this year. You think Xavier Worthy is like a true number one threat now at receiver for the Chiefs?
- [91:09]
Pete Prisco
I don't know if he's a true number one. There's only so many true number ones, but I think he's going to be their number one.
- [91:13]
PFT Commenter
Oh, give us the true number ones.
- [91:15]
Pete Prisco
Jefferson, Chase, Tyree, Kill when he's playing and focused. Brian Thomas will be a true number one. There aren't many of them. That's, that's, you know, we're, we're getting to the limit right there. We're getting close to it.
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Memes
All right. So. So, yeah. What do you think about what should we expect out of Xavier Worthy in that offense this year?
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Pete Prisco
Here's what you can expect down in the offense. I think Mahomes is going to get back to looking like Mahomes again. I think they're going to get the ball down the field. You mentioned Worthy got the speed. Hollywood Brown can run. When Rice gets back, he can go. And the biggest difference will be the offensive line. Josh Simmons was the best offensive lineman in the draft. It wasn't close. He had the knee issue. He had some, you know, off the field stuff. Guys were concerned about not, not problems, but just was he as focused as he should be? He steps in there now, he's, he's going to be one of the best left tackles. Now the line, you move the, you know, the summa t into left guard, they're bigger and stronger. They already had two really good ones in Humphrey and Trey Smith and Juan Taylor played hurt all last year. So it's going to be time for Mahomes to throw the ball down the field for the first time in a long time. He's going to look like Mahomes. The ball will go down the field. He's going to put up better numbers. They're going to be right smack dab in the middle of it all again.
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Memes
So are you picking the Chiefs to win that division?
- [92:31]
Pete Prisco
Yes.
- [92:31]
Memes
All right, so who's fighting for second? Who do you see finishing second place in the AFC West?
- [92:35]
Pete Prisco
Denver. I think Denver's defense is unreal. I think they're good across the board. You add Greenlaw to the defense, he's going to help them a great deal. You know, their corners will be better. They drafted Baron in the first round. I think defensively they're going to be among the best in the league. The question is offensively, how do they do they run the ball? And I know people rave about their offensive line. It's good. It's not as good. I don't think it's as good as people give it credit for, but can they run the ball? And who runs the ball? And I think, you know, when you look at it from that standpoint, is it Dobbins? Everybody wants to get Harvey on the field, but he doesn't pick up the blitzes. And so Peyton's not going to play if you don't pick up the blitzes. So I want to know if they can run the ball. And there's the other part of the equation now there's a whole season of tape on Bo Nix and how they use them. Last year, does he get better? I think he does. And talking to some of the coaches, talking to Sean Payton at times about he didn't barely get to his reads last year. He was kind of learning on the fly and he put up those numbers. So I do think he's going to be better.
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PFT Commenter
Am I crazy for thinking the Raiders are going to be in that frisky category just because Gino and Pete Carroll is going to give a little consistency to that organization? Am I crazy? I know they probably have a lot of talent gaps, but am I crazy for thinking they're going to be one of those teams that's, you know, middle of the pack? Not saying playoffs, but again, a team that could maybe beat some good teams down the stretch and have an impact on the playoff picture.
- [94:00]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, they might win five games.
- [94:02]
PFT Commenter
Okay, so that's a no. That's a no.
- [94:04]
Pete Prisco
No.
- [94:04]
PFT Commenter
That's a nice way of saying no.
- [94:06]
Pete Prisco
No, I did. When I look at their defense, there's not a lot of talent on it. Crosby is a game wrecker by himself, but they need Koons to step up and play. And then you look at the cornerback position, I mean, Stokes is going to be one of their starting corners. He was, you know, packers who have cornerback needs, didn't want them. I just think there's not a ton of talent on the defensive side of the ball that that will show up. I do think they'll be pretty good on offense. You got two tight ends and, you know, Bowers is going to be A big time player. He's going to play a lot of mayor. And then you go to the, you go to the. Genti's going to be a great runner. The off line's pretty good and Gino's capable of making plays down the field. So I think offensively they'll be okay. I worry about the defense overs, so.
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Memes
So bet a lot of Raiders overs this year.
- [94:47]
Pete Prisco
Correct.
- [94:47]
PFT Commenter
I like that.
- [94:48]
Memes
I like that.
- [94:49]
PFT Commenter
What about the Chargers? I know that, you know, the Rashawn Slater injury was, was catastrophic. How, how do you feel about the Chargers? Because it did feel like last year, you know, you got the Harbaugh kind of bump where he gets, he gets that team rolling in the right direction. Do they take a step forward or is it because this is a big year for Justin Herbert? I know he's gotten paid, but the noise is starting to get there and I want to see him, you know, win the playoff game and be the quarterback that everyone thinks he is.
- [95:18]
Pete Prisco
True. He is. A big year for him. It's a big year for a lot of these courts. Big year for Trevor Lawrence. I think they both have some proving to do, both of them. And so, yeah, I think Herbert has to prove things.
- [95:26]
PFT Commenter
Here's.
- [95:26]
Pete Prisco
You know, when you talk about Slater, all will be okay over there, but he's not Slater. And what that does is weakens you at two spots because now Trey Pipkins has to go in and play right tackle. So all of a sudden your two strengths at the tackle positions have become weaker than they were. And I'm not going to say Alt's not going to be good at that spot. It'll be okay, pretty good, but he's not going to be Slater. And so you're weakened at two spots and when you're built on the offensive line being the dominant part of that team, that could be concerning defensively. They gave up a ton of yards on the ground last year. That's something that has to stop as well. You know, they went out and got guys, but I don't know if they're that much better. So, yeah, they'll be in the mix with Denver, but I think they're the third team and might be a team on the outside looking in the postseason.
- [96:11]
Memes
I forget where have you stood historically on the Justin Herbert debate? Are you a fan?
- [96:16]
Pete Prisco
Yes, I am. I think he's got all kinds of talent and skill set and there's been reasons they haven't won in the playoffs. I mean, he did score a boatload at Jacksonville and the defense gave up A boatload in the second half. That wasn't the.
- [96:28]
PFT Commenter
But do you watch the tape?
- [96:30]
Pete Prisco
Yes.
- [96:30]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [96:31]
Memes
What about his body language?
- [96:34]
Pete Prisco
Don't bother me.
- [96:35]
PFT Commenter
What about him dating Madison Beer? Do you give him a little bump in your numbers for that?
- [96:40]
Pete Prisco
Is he. Is he following in the footsteps of the guy in Buffalo?
- [96:44]
PFT Commenter
Madison Beer's very attractive.
- [96:45]
Memes
Yeah. I mean quarterbacks.
- [96:47]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [96:47]
Memes
Yeah. Josh Allen was the first quarterback to date a hot chick. And so. So Justin Herbert saw that. He's like the blueprints out there. I'm going to get one of those.
- [96:55]
PFT Commenter
I got to get one of those.
- [96:57]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, well, he's smart if he's doing it. Yeah. Look, I think Justin Herbert's not the problem in, in with the Chargers. He just isn't. And anybody who thinks he is is misguided.
- [97:07]
Memes
All right, let's talk AFC east, and then we can talk about the jets afterwards. AFC north, and then we talk about the jets afterwards.
- [97:12]
PFT Commenter
Now we'll save for the jets for the end.
- [97:13]
Memes
Okay, jets at the end. Pete, are you. How do you feel about Aaron Rodgers right now from. Based on what you saw out of him last time he was on the Jets? There's our jets talk. Where do you think he is as a quarterback right now?
- [97:26]
Pete Prisco
I'll tell you what, the last six games of the season, I thought he was back close to being Aaron Rodgers again. I mean, I really did go back and look at his last six games. He played well.
- [97:35]
PFT Commenter
And.
- [97:35]
Pete Prisco
And nobody wants to say no. Everybody says, oh, he wasn't the same guy once he kind of got sort of healthy. He was the same guy with a bad, you know, offensive system and a bad. He had Garrett Wilson, but the team wasn't great. And so I, I think it wasn't on him. He, by the way, he threw more touchdown passes than Herbert and Mahomes last year, in case anybody's wondering. So he. And he tied Josh Allen for a number of touchdown passes, too. So I think he's capable. I worry about that team, though. What's the Pittsburgh identity? It's always been the run the ball. They didn't run the ball last year.
- [98:06]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [98:06]
Pete Prisco
Can they run the ball this year? You know, they paid Jaylen Warren. Is he going to run the ball? Johnson, the rookie going to be running the ball? Are they going to run the ball at all? That's the. If they don't run the ball, it's going to be a long season for Ferreira Rodgers.
- [98:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [98:17]
Memes
Is this, Is this a year where they. They don't go 500? Were they dip below.
- [98:23]
Pete Prisco
Well, they're not the worst team in the division. The Browns are. So they're probably the third team in the division, so maybe they'll be. Yeah, they might. They could dip below.
- [98:32]
PFT Commenter
Do you have any faith in the Bengals defense going into the season? And I actually will say it in. I like that the Bengals started playing their. Their ones on offense in the preseason because we've seen it time and time again. They put themselves in a hole to start the year. If they didn't do that last year, they're a playoff team. They would have been dangerous. But do you feel like that defense can play just like, what, 20th? If they're the 20th defense, that's a really good football team, is that fair to say?
- [99:02]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, maybe a little better than that. 7. If they're 17th, 16th, the defense are going to be really good. Right. And I think the change in coordinators will be good for them. Al Golden's a good coach and he's going to be much more aggressive. That. That to me, is the biggest difference. Corners on that team, Cam Taylor, Britt Turner, Dax Hill, they're man to man guys. They, they look like they would excel man to man, and they will. But he didn't play him in man to man and he looked lost in the zone last year. So I think that will be big improvement. I think they need to be better against the run, which is key. But yeah, I think they'll be better on defense. I don't know if they get the 15, but they might get to 17, 18 if they do that. We know that offense is going to score. They're going to be a team to. To reckon with in that division.
- [99:46]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [99:47]
Memes
And so what about the Browns? We talked about the Browns. Shador, Dylan Gabriel, who do you think is going to be the number two? And then do you think Joe Flacco is going to get benched before or after week five?
- [100:00]
Pete Prisco
I'm going to say after week five. And I'm going to say Dylan Gabriel be the first guy in and should be the first guy in. He outplayed. He outplayed Shador Sanders. It wasn't close. And he was drafted ahead of him for a reason, and nobody wants to hear that, but that's the reality of it. He's a better player. And Shador Sanders holds the ball.
- [100:17]
PFT Commenter
He does.
- [100:18]
Pete Prisco
He's one of those guys that, that, you know, he's got to adjust to the NFL game. Open in college is different than open in the NFL and he hasn't realized that yet. Dylan Gabriel is kind of A little ahead of him.
- [100:29]
Memes
Now, on the film, did you see that the. The Browns offensive linemen were told not to block as hard for Shador the preseason?
- [100:34]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, I don't. I don't know where anybody got that. Guys are fighting for their lives, and everybody's making excuses for him. Look, he was every bit as responsible for some of those things, sacks as they were. And so the whole narrative that people are working against your Dorsey for what reason? What's the reason? Give me somebody come up with a reason why they're working against them.
- [100:55]
Memes
They. They hate Dion because they cheer for a rival school. And so then they're upset because of the Colorado effect, and their team didn't get as much shine even though they were a better team last year. And so now they hate Shador because of that. Hypothetically, yeah.
- [101:10]
Pete Prisco
I don't believe any of that. Once guys get to the NFL, fans don't give a rat's ass what school you went to. They just don't. I don't buy that.
- [101:18]
Memes
So where'd you go to school again?
- [101:20]
Pete Prisco
Right here, baby. Sun Devils.
- [101:21]
Memes
Okay.
- [101:22]
PFT Commenter
Works up, forks up. What's the weakness on the Ravens? I assume you have the Ravens winning the AFC north, correct?
- [101:28]
Pete Prisco
I do.
- [101:28]
PFT Commenter
And what's the weakness?
- [101:30]
Pete Prisco
Well, I think it's. Do they have an edge rusher? You have to point to when you come to the line of script, scrimmage. And by that, I mean they manufacture pressure. But at some point, you get to a certain situation in the playoffs, and they faced this before, where you come up and you go, there he is. He's going to wreck the game for me. Van Noy, good player. Does he wreck the game on his own? No. Do you know Mike Green, the rookie? If he's what some people think he can be, he might be that guy by the end of the season. But that, to me, is their biggest weakness right now.
- [101:59]
PFT Commenter
Okay, Jets.
- [102:03]
Memes
Do we want to wait till the end?
- [102:04]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we'll wait till the end. Let's go to the nfc.
- [102:06]
Pete Prisco
One quick thing. One quick thing on the Ravens. They also have to learn to win in the playoffs.
- [102:10]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [102:10]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, Jackson. I mean, for all the. For all the accolades he gets. And they have to learn how to win in the playoffs, too. He hasn't been as good.
- [102:18]
PFT Commenter
So what's your AFC Championship game? You have the Bills. And who else?
- [102:22]
Pete Prisco
Bills, Bills and Chiefs.
- [102:24]
PFT Commenter
Bills and Chiefs. And they finally do. The Bills finally get over the hump?
- [102:27]
Pete Prisco
You betcha.
- [102:28]
Memes
And where's the game?
- [102:30]
Pete Prisco
The games in Buffalo with those 14, 13, 14 wins, they're going to get to the. They're going to have the championship game at Buffalo. It's going to be nutty.
- [102:37]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. NFC East. I'll let you take it away. Pft.
- [102:40]
Memes
NFC East. I feel like the Philadelphia Eagles are at the front. Well, they are the betting favorite right now, as well as they should be. I'm actually a little bit interested to see what happens in New York. I feel like with the kind of overhaul that they've done offensively, it might be a different team this year. It might be a team that might challenge for that wild card.
- [102:59]
PFT Commenter
Russ is pretty good. Is he weird? That was bait for you.
- [103:05]
Pete Prisco
That was bait for you.
- [103:07]
PFT Commenter
He's not.
- [103:07]
Pete Prisco
I mean, he's. He's one of the best moonball throwers that we've ever seen, so he's got that going for him. I just think he's going to be looking over his shoulder the entire time he's playing for the Giants because, you know they're going to play Jackson Dart at some point. They're going to. But. But I will say this. Their pass rush is going to be nasty. They're going to get after. They're going to stay in games starting this week. They're going to stay that game against your commanders. It's going to be a close game just because they can rush the passer. They are that kind of team. But I don't think. I don't think they're going to win a ton of games. And at some point, Jackson Dart is playing for the Giants.
- [103:38]
Memes
So excluding Cam Ward, what rookie quarterback are we going to see first? Dart. You think Dart's going to come in before Dylan Gabriel comes in in Cleveland?
- [103:50]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [103:51]
Pete Prisco
Yes, I do.
- [103:52]
PFT Commenter
Tyler Shook.
- [103:54]
Pete Prisco
No, I think. I think Rattler's gonna play for more.
- [103:56]
PFT Commenter
Than you think that.
- [103:57]
Memes
I feel like that might be a week three.
- [103:59]
PFT Commenter
Whoa.
- [104:00]
Memes
I might get shucked down there.
- [104:01]
Pete Prisco
That's. That. That's not what you hear, though.
- [104:03]
PFT Commenter
I'm telling you. You hear stuff we don't hear.
- [104:06]
Memes
What are you hearing?
- [104:06]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, it's going to be longer than you think. He was a little. He was a little in over his head there, and it's going to take him a while.
- [104:13]
PFT Commenter
He.
- [104:13]
Pete Prisco
By the way, he's older than Rattler, isn't he? I think he's a year old.
- [104:17]
PFT Commenter
Fun fact. I like so. All right.
- [104:18]
Pete Prisco
He's closer to my age.
- [104:20]
Memes
All right, so. So what's going on in Philly? Is there going to be a step back?
- [104:25]
Pete Prisco
I don't know if it's going to be a Step back. But repeating is. Nobody's repeated that division since 2004.
- [104:31]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [104:31]
Pete Prisco
I mean, that's tough enough. I do think they'll win the division, though, but I don't think they're repeating. I just don't. It's too hard to do. And you know, they had losses. You know, losing built in Williams and losing Sweat. That hurts them on defense. But you know what really hurts them? Depth. Because those guys that are now playing were depth guys. And when you look at their depth guys are not as good. So I think ultimately that could be a problem for them.
- [104:54]
Memes
All right, and then Dallas, how are things going to go in Dallas? It feels like we're kind of teetering on a season from Helen Dallas just based on how chaotic it's been. But then you look at their offense and you're like, they're actually like very good offensively. On paper, I agree with you.
- [105:08]
Pete Prisco
I, I think they're going to score a lot of points. I think Prescott, when he last played, led the league in touchdown passes when he was healthy two years ago and he played the whole season. And then you add Pickens to balance the field. The offensive line with three Tylers and two other guys are going to be physical. Even if they're young, they're going to be physical. So I'm with you. Everyone says, well, what about the running game when Jaden Blues on the field, Jaden Blue one, that being a big time explosive runner for them. So I'm with you. Offensively, they'll be good. I worry about that defense, particularly with no Parsons. Where do you get the pass rush?
- [105:40]
Memes
That's.
- [105:40]
PFT Commenter
Are you going to ask about the commanders?
- [105:41]
Memes
I'm going to ask about the commanders. Got to Pete Jaden Daniels, 2025 NFL MVP what do you think about it?
- [105:51]
Pete Prisco
I think it's possible. I don't think it's going to happen, but I definitely think it's possible.
- [105:55]
Memes
That's all I need.
- [105:55]
Pete Prisco
I love the. I love the kid. I told you guys that last year, how much I love that guy. And I don't think we come close to seeing the best of him. We certainly haven't seen the best of him as a passer. Not close to it because, you know, he still got out early last year and some of that had to do with the offensive line. I think they've solidified group by getting Tunel, putting Coleman at left tackle. They're big, they're strong. When they get Cosby back, they're going to be really good on the offensive line. So he's going to have more time. I think we've only scratched the surface of him as a passer, and the commanders will be happy with where he's going after this season.
- [106:28]
Memes
So. So basically, if you're listening to this show, your Jaden Daniels analysis is Max saying that he smiles too much and then me just sucking his dick and being like, he's the best quarterback I've ever seen. So maybe you can tell, like, as somebody that watched all the films, what does he need to do better?
- [106:42]
Pete Prisco
Go through his reads faster. Not, you know, when you go through. Young quarterbacks have a tendency to put their foot in the ground, go through the first read and then start moving. He needs to go 1, 2, 3, 4, and then. And then. Or 1, 2, 3, and then move 1, 2, 3, 4th, and check down. You can't just move after the first one's not there. And for a lot of last season, that's what he did. So that's why I say now he's going to get to 2 and 3 and 4. You're going to see a much different passing game out of Jane Daniels, and he's more than capable of putting up big numbers doing it.
- [107:14]
Memes
So on the defensive side, for the commanders, the secondary looks completely different than it did a year ago. Like just total wholesale change of everybody that's. That's playing defensive back for the team much better on paper than it was last year.
- [107:27]
Pete Prisco
Amos is a big addition because he gives. Mike Sanders still goes inside and plays in nickel, which is what he's better suited to play. So they'll be much better there.
- [107:35]
Memes
So what you see out of. Out of Latimore, once he got healthy at the end last year, was he the same Latimore that we saw like three, four, five years ago?
- [107:43]
Pete Prisco
No, but I still think he was. I don't know if he was ever truly healthy last year and. And he's been bothered by that thing and he's been banged up a little bit this year, too. So when he's healthy, he's a really good player, but I don't know if he was ever healthy last year.
- [107:57]
PFT Commenter
All right, NFC north loaded division. Let's start with the Vikings. Vikings have an awesome roster. They basically. It's basically a question of what is J.J. mcCarthy? So, J.J. mcCarthy, if I told you J.J. mcCarthy is the 15th best quarterback in the NFL, are the Vikings a Super bowl contender?
- [108:20]
Pete Prisco
Was Sam Darnold the 15th best quarterback in the NFL last year?
- [108:23]
PFT Commenter
He might have played. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what were they? I mean, obviously it fell apart at the end. But they won, won 14 games last year.
- [108:29]
Pete Prisco
But why did it fall apart at the end? Because in large part because of him.
- [108:33]
PFT Commenter
Right. So maybe it's JJ McCarthy's the 15th best quarterback and he also doesn't have. No. Doesn't have the ability to turn into the 30th best quarterback. Also. They made, they made a lot of. They put a lot of investments in their offensive line.
- [108:46]
Pete Prisco
They did. They have. They've gotten bigger and stronger, which they needed to do.
- [108:51]
PFT Commenter
But I also think they're going to run a lot.
- [108:53]
Pete Prisco
I worry about him. I worry about J.J. mcCarthy. I wasn't in that class of people who loved them.
- [108:59]
PFT Commenter
Tell me if you think this is a fair take on the Vikings. I think what they're going to. I think, you know, they got Jordan Mason, they beefed up their offensive line. They like Aaron Jones. Still. I think they're going to run the ball a lot and it's going to be like, hey, J.J. mcCarthy, make. Make 10 throws a game.
- [109:18]
Pete Prisco
He'll have to make more than that.
- [109:19]
PFT Commenter
But maybe not. I mean, if, you know, they'll get.
- [109:24]
Pete Prisco
Him outside on boots off the run game. I get it.
- [109:27]
PFT Commenter
When I say 10 throws game, I'm saying 10 throws where it's like, it's not a screen pass or, you know, something. The first reads right there. A slant. Yeah.
- [109:35]
Pete Prisco
You know, or get in the boot, let him throw the tight end and the little flat and stuff. So I, Yeah, I, Yeah, they'll make it easy on him if they run the ball. That's the plan. Because I don't know if he can just stand back there and make the throws when he has to out of the pocket. So he, you know, particularly he hasn't played and he wasn't a great passer when he was at Michigan.
- [109:52]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [109:52]
Pete Prisco
So I'm, I'm worried about him. Good staff. They'll get the best out of them. But. And they are better in terms of talent, at least on the offensive line and on the interior of the defensive line. But, you know, it's all in the quarterback. Is he good? If he has a Darnold like year, they'll be good. Yeah, I don't know if he will. I don't know if he will.
- [110:08]
PFT Commenter
It's interesting because that roster is very good and J.J. mcCarthy, it's basically, we don't know what J.J. mcCarthy is. That's kind of how your analysis of the Vikings has to be. It's like if he's great, they're going to be a Super bowl contest. If he's bad. He will sink them.
- [110:23]
Pete Prisco
By the way, I like the Bears this week at home.
- [110:25]
PFT Commenter
Oh, okay. All right, let's talk about the Bears. So I'll tell you things I like about the Bears, and you tell me if you agree. First, Caleb Williams was named a captain. Second, they've been practicing out on grass a lot. Third, they're taking it one game at a time, one play at a time. That's what Ben Johnson said. And then.
- [110:45]
Pete Prisco
Make me puke.
- [110:47]
PFT Commenter
What?
- [110:47]
Pete Prisco
You're going to make me puke.
- [110:48]
PFT Commenter
Oh, I'm actually just reading Pete Briscoe's most recent tweet. He said football things that annoy me this week. Captain announcement. Who cares? Mindset questions. Calling practice, out on the grass, saying, getting it done on the rectangle. Taking it one game at a time, one play at a time. No, you don't.
- [111:04]
Pete Prisco
I can't stand that garbage. Seriously. On the grass. They're doing it on the grass. Come on. What is that?
- [111:13]
Memes
You got a problem with grass?
- [111:15]
Pete Prisco
Well, I mean, what kind of. It's like somebody has a new buzzword and every year and then the buzz phrase, and it just spreads like wildfire. He hears it. He hears it now. He says it, and he says it. Same stuff.
- [111:27]
PFT Commenter
I love when you get old, man yells at cloud. All right, so the Bears. Yeah, let's talk about the Bears real quick. I am. I'm. I'm ner. I'm cautiously optimistic. I think Caleb has everything around him now to hopefully take that step forward. I think there's some questions on defense, the pass rush. The secondary has, you know, injuries, and guys got to take a step up. But are you bullish on the Bears overall?
- [111:51]
Pete Prisco
Not this year. I think they're a year away again. I thought that year would come this year. I said that last year. But clearly the coaching staff was a disaster, and it wasn't meant to be. But I think. I think Ben Johnson will get the best out of Caleb Williams eventually. I just don't know if he has the running game that he wants to have right now. And, you know, that's what he wants to do first and foremost. And. And then I think you mentioned on defense, where's the other pass rusher? Yeah, sweat can rush the passer. What is Grady Jarrett? I love Grady Jarrett, but what's he got left? So there are questions. I think they're a year away, but they will win on opening night.
- [112:24]
PFT Commenter
Okay, I like that. And listen, I. I'm a year away is kind of what I'm thinking. I'm Thinking if they could get to an 8, 9 win team and you see flashes from Caleb Williams were like, hey, this, it didn't go well year one, but we're on the right path. Would be. I'd be pumped.
- [112:39]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, of course. Remember last year I told you that he had a better quarterback than you did?
- [112:44]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. No, you did and it's. It's true. Yeah.
- [112:47]
Pete Prisco
You take him right now. You take him right now.
- [112:49]
Memes
I got a question for you. Kind of with the Bears pass rush, what team do you think Jadevion Clowney is going to eventually play for this year?
- [112:58]
Pete Prisco
He doesn't rush the passer anyways.
- [113:02]
PFT Commenter
Good answer. Good answer.
- [113:05]
Pete Prisco
Because like does he do anything?
- [113:06]
Memes
I don't know. He signs a lot of one year contract. He makes.
- [113:09]
Pete Prisco
I know he does a lot of money.
- [113:11]
Memes
Yeah.
- [113:11]
PFT Commenter
So speaking of past rushers, the packers, you're a Packer lover. I feel like every year you come on and tell us the packers are going to win the Super Bowl. They added Micah Parsons hurt last year. Okay.
- [113:20]
Memes
No other team has injuries. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [113:22]
PFT Commenter
They. Micah Parsons gets added. Is this now a Super bowl team because of Michael Parsons?
- [113:27]
Pete Prisco
No, they were super. They were my super bowl pick before they.
- [113:31]
PFT Commenter
So now you must be like, they shouldn't. Are they going to go undefeated?
- [113:34]
Pete Prisco
No, they're not going undefeated. That's a brutal division, man. That's a tough division. Yeah, they're not going undefeated, but they were the youngest team in the league last year, had all those injuries. Love was hurt the entire season. They go to Philly and they get that crappy fumble on the, on the kickoff. That was. They recovered and nobody saw the recovery. They lose such a tone for the game and they lose. I think they were still built to win. And you look at them, I'm telling you what, Matthew Goldman might be a star right away. That's how good he is. And I was there for a couple days in camp. He didn't drop a pass. He's got unbelievable hands. The receiver core. When everybody gets back because Watson will be back in about six weeks. They're good there. The line's good. They can run the ball. And I'm. I still think Jordan Love was.
- [114:17]
PFT Commenter
Didn't.
- [114:17]
Pete Prisco
Never got over the injuries last year. You're going to see a different Jordan Love. So offensively they're going to score points. Defensively they have some issues still at defensive tackle, particularly with Kenny Clark being traded away, but man, they're going to get after at the quarterback with Parsons and Gary and Van Ness.
- [114:32]
PFT Commenter
Do you think like you do that trade 100 times out of 100 if you're the Packers. Right. Like I was saying that I would take the Bears trading three first round picks for the. For Parsons because he's that special of a player.
- [114:45]
Pete Prisco
Didn't you do that for Cleo Mack once?
- [114:47]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And guess what? It wasn't Khalil Mack that fucked that up. It was Mitch Trubisky not getting better.
- [114:51]
Pete Prisco
And by the way, this guy's younger than Khalil Mack was when you made that. Of course, so.
- [114:55]
PFT Commenter
But you agree, though, Khalil Mack was not the problem.
- [114:58]
Pete Prisco
No, he wasn't the problem.
- [114:59]
PFT Commenter
He was awesome. Yeah.
- [115:00]
Pete Prisco
The numbers, the defensive numbers went up when he got there. Yeah, he was not the problem. And by the way, Parsons is 26. I normally hate trade and pays. I hate those. I love this one.
- [115:13]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah.
- [115:13]
Pete Prisco
Because he's 26.
- [115:15]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah.
- [115:16]
Pete Prisco
They're going to be. If they're going to be good, they're going to get. Those are going to be like picks number 31 and 32. Or 30. Right.
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Memes
So it's worth it because I want you to just envision this scenario. If you guys had traded for Michael Parsons and then all that about his back came out today, that would have been a bad day for you.
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PFT Commenter
He's hurt.
- [115:31]
Memes
You would have been very upset about that.
- [115:32]
PFT Commenter
He's hurt.
- [115:33]
Pete Prisco
How many guys have bad backs?
- [115:35]
PFT Commenter
I do.
- [115:35]
Memes
I do.
- [115:36]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [115:36]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, me too. Me too. Have you ever had sciatica crawl down your leg?
- [115:39]
Memes
It's awful. Let me ask you this, Pete. Have you ever been like, I used to have a bad back. Now it feels great.
- [115:46]
Pete Prisco
What are you using for?
- [115:47]
Memes
Like. I'm just saying, like, if you have a. If you have that L4, L5. No, but, you know, many times are you, like, it's all better.
- [115:53]
Pete Prisco
Well, you know what? You guys know, if you have it, what happens? It goes away for periods of time and then it flares up out of the blue.
- [116:00]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [116:00]
Pete Prisco
And next thing you know, you're on the floor writhing in pain like you haven't felt before.
- [116:04]
PFT Commenter
I actually.
- [116:05]
Pete Prisco
I get it.
- [116:05]
PFT Commenter
I didn't know guys your height could get bad backs.
- [116:09]
Pete Prisco
Well, yeah. We sit in a chair all damn day.
- [116:11]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I just thought that's like, why? Like. Like, you know, like little dogs. Live long. Like, you're. You're probably gonna live to like 110, Pete.
- [116:17]
Memes
PK. You got.
- [116:18]
Pete Prisco
My dad's. My dad's 80. My dad's 89. I hope I do.
- [116:22]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [116:22]
Pete Prisco
Follow in that footsteps.
- [116:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah.
- [116:24]
Memes
Short guys. We're like 90% back. So it's like very, like back.
- [116:27]
Pete Prisco
Sorry. Right. I had. I have to. They wanted me to have surgery for my back, and I told them no.
- [116:33]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you got great out.
- [116:34]
Memes
Great knees, great neck. No back.
- [116:37]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah. Back.
- [116:39]
Memes
Back is trouble.
- [116:39]
PFT Commenter
Short temper. All right, Lions. Last team, the NFC north, which is. Is loaded. Loaded. Division I. I think the Lions defense is going to be really good. I know they've lost a lot in terms of the brain drain. I do think their defense would be very good.
- [116:55]
Pete Prisco
Well, they were hurt last year, and anytime Hutchinson's not on field, different defense, and they had to compensate by Blitzen. I think the defense will be okay. Where's the other pass rusher, Marcus Davenport? You believe in that. I worry about that. So they've had injuries, you know, McNeil, they've had injuries on the inside of that defense, too. And I get it with everybody. You have new coordinators. But that could be a transition period, too. When you lose Ben Johnson and John Morton takes over, I think that could be a little bit of a transition on offense. Here's the other part. They've been really good on the offensive line.
- [117:26]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [117:26]
Pete Prisco
And now. Now you have three new starters in there in the interior of that offensive line. So I don't know if they're going to be as good. I worry about the Lions a little bit. Bit more than maybe going into last season. I still think they'll be one of the better teams in that division. I think it'll be Packers, Lions, Vikings and Bears.
- [117:43]
PFT Commenter
God damn it.
- [117:44]
Memes
What are the Bears? What's the Bears record this year, Pete?
- [117:47]
PFT Commenter
God damn it.
- [117:47]
Pete Prisco
Seven, six or seven.
- [117:49]
PFT Commenter
All right. Depends on how the seven come. I could. I could. I could be.
- [117:52]
Pete Prisco
Okay, seven, and then you take nine or 10 next year.
- [117:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Well, seven if it's like seven. And it was a slow start with Caleb learning the offense, and they became a dangerous team down the stretch. Okay, sign me up. Yeah. All right.
- [118:03]
Pete Prisco
Or seven. Seven. If Caleb has a really good year and maybe the defense isn't as good because you could fix that.
- [118:09]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [118:09]
Memes
What do you think about Jared Goff? Are you a hater?
- [118:11]
Pete Prisco
No, I love Derek Golf.
- [118:12]
Memes
You love. Good. Okay.
- [118:13]
Pete Prisco
Absolutely not. No.
- [118:14]
PFT Commenter
Good.
- [118:15]
Pete Prisco
One of the most under. One of the most underappreciated quarterbacks in the NFL.
- [118:18]
PFT Commenter
All right.
- [118:18]
Memes
Good answer. We play a game on the show. It's called Preview the NFC south in under 30 seconds. Ready? Go.
- [118:26]
Pete Prisco
Bucks. Bucks. More bucks. I think that. I think they're one of the teams that could push for the super bowl in the NFC I love the Bucks. Bucks like the makeup. Everybody's back on offense. Once worse gets back and Godwin gets back, they're all back. And you add a Buca to that equation. They were raving about him when I was there in May. They were raving about him when I was there in July. Their offense is going to be incredible. I think defensively much faster than they've been over the last couple of years. They're going to be the team to beat in that division.
- [118:53]
Memes
Ok. Great preview of the NFC South.
- [118:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [118:55]
Memes
If you were to do an extended version, is there another team that you would speak about, about for 15 seconds bonus time?
- [119:01]
Pete Prisco
I think that, I think the Falcons are the next best team, but I think they're lacking on the defensive side of the ball. They, they added those edge rushers, but they're backups right now and I worry about their, their secondary. And here's the other thing. They want to run the ball. McGarry's their best run blocker on tackle and he's now out for the season. So that's a problem.
- [119:19]
PFT Commenter
Okay, we just hit the Buffalo Wild Wings button where it goes to triple overtime. We kind of like the Panthers this year.
- [119:25]
Pete Prisco
I don't.
- [119:26]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [119:26]
Memes
Why?
- [119:27]
PFT Commenter
No, I think we should at that.
- [119:30]
Pete Prisco
Well, because I don't.
- [119:31]
PFT Commenter
That's a great preview. No more. No more.
- [119:34]
Pete Prisco
Okay.
- [119:35]
PFT Commenter
Nothing more about the Panther.
- [119:36]
Memes
I have one more extension though. There's been a replay booth. We're getting the refs coming on the field. One untimed down preview. The New Orleans Saints using one body part sound effect. Oh, that was a.
- [119:57]
Pete Prisco
That was a popcorn fart, by the way. It's very dry.
- [119:59]
PFT Commenter
That was a great NFC south preview. All right, let's fit. Let's finish with the NFC West 49ers. It feels like everyone forgot about them. Are you feeling like this is a bounce back here?
- [120:11]
Pete Prisco
Absolutely.
- [120:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [120:12]
Pete Prisco
Stars win. Stars win in the NFL. And the most star laden team in that division still the 49. You look at it, Purdy can play. You know, people won't want to say he's a star, but he's close to it. Trent Williams, when he's on the field, one of the best left tackles in the game. He didn't play last year. McCaffrey is still one of the best running backs in the game. Bosa, one of the best edge rushers in the game. Warner, the best off the ball linebacker in the game. And they have good enough players at other spots. The only concern is if they do have those injuries again, then they get to the backups. And the backups aren't nearly as good because they pay the stars. So that's the problem. But, but, but I think they're the best team in the division when they're all on the field.
- [120:51]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [120:52]
Memes
All right. What about the Seahawks, which we expect out of them? I know that Sam Darnold, you've got questions about him, but I feel like they've got some talent. They got something working up there a little bit, right?
- [121:03]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, I think, I think offensively they'll be okay, but I think defensively they could be pretty good. You know, he's a good defensive coach. They have young talent on that side of the ball. They might be a year away, too. And, and again, if it's a big game. Do you trust Sam Darnold? I mean, question. You don't, do you? I don't.
- [121:22]
PFT Commenter
I don't know.
- [121:23]
Pete Prisco
So that's my concern with the, with them, the Cardinals will be much improved. Oh, but I still worry about Murray.
- [121:32]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [121:33]
Pete Prisco
This is, you know, we talk about proving years for quarterbacks in this league. It's. For him, it's a big year. Because he collapsed down the stretch last year. I mean, they were cruising, remember, and he kind of collapsed down the stretch. He has to have a big year for them.
- [121:46]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And then the Rams. I, I'm high on the Rams with a big. If Matthew Stafford stays healthy and I know he's going to play. They announced he's going to play Week 1, but I don't think that's the question. Like, I always thought he was going to play week one. Can he play week 16, 17? Like, that's because he, that, that is the team. I know they have a ton of talent, but that, that. You can't, you can't expect to win games with Stetson. Stetson Bennett or Jimmy G. No.
- [122:13]
Pete Prisco
And here we are, back to a back again. I mean, and, and he's an older guy with the back. You know, older by NFL standards with the back is never a good combination. And he's such a tough guy that he plays through almost everything. But you know, this. There's going to be moments with that back where it flares up. He's not going to be able to play. And how long will he not be able to play? That's the concern there. I'm with you. If he's healthy, they're in the mix for the division. If he's not healthy, they might as well pack their bags and start looking for something down the road.
- [122:40]
Memes
I think that covers every Single team in the NFL. I think we hit every last one.
- [122:45]
PFT Commenter
Is there anyone we're missing?
- [122:47]
Pete Prisco
We forgot the Jets.
- [122:49]
PFT Commenter
Oh yeah, the Jets. The Jets. Do you have time for the Jets? If you have to go, I understand.
- [122:53]
Pete Prisco
No, I'm good. What do you got for the Jets?
- [122:55]
PFT Commenter
What do you got for the Jets? Memes, why don't you lead the jets discourse?
- [122:58]
Pete Prisco
Well, here's what I have for the Jets.
- [123:00]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [123:00]
Pete Prisco
Justin Fields can do, do anything on offense. They can be a wild card team.
- [123:05]
Memes
Love that.
- [123:06]
Pete Prisco
Because they still have tons of talent on defense. We know Aaron Glenn is going to make them tough and feisty. They want to run the ball. I think their offensive line will be better. The second receiver and third receiver is a problem. But Mason Taylor is going to be a big time pass catching threat at tight end for them and I think they can maybe get eight, nine wins and sneak in. If Justin Fields, you know, can make plays down the field, the passing game, but also gimmick up some stuff for him to run around.
- [123:37]
Memes
Memes, what do you think about always.
- [123:38]
PFT Commenter
Good when you got to gimmick some stuff up. That's a great preview, Pete.
- [123:41]
Pete Prisco
By the way, that's usually a combination. When you say gimmick stuff up for him, that means your quarterback isn't good enough to stand in the pocket make throws.
- [123:48]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you hate that.
- [123:49]
Memes
You hate running quarterbacks.
- [123:51]
Pete Prisco
No, I, I think you have to be able to run, but you got to be able to run and throw, not just take off at the first hint of pressure and get out of there and run around for no reason.
- [123:58]
Memes
Pete, can you make a small order real quick? Because you do watch every single play by every single team. What's. Who's one guy in the NFL that we should be paying more attention to?
- [124:08]
Pete Prisco
Brian Thomas.
- [124:10]
Memes
Okay. Yeah, he's really.
- [124:11]
Pete Prisco
I, I think he's on the bird. And by the way, he doesn't practice great. That's a weird. But when he shows up at games, they go, oh my gosh, he's not a great practice guy.
- [124:21]
PFT Commenter
What does that, what does that entail? Not practicing great?
- [124:23]
Pete Prisco
He doesn't catch the ball in practice, he drops it in practice. He's not great on the 50, 50 balls of practice. It drives them crazy when he gets, and when he gets in the game, it's like, forget about it. Then he went like he had had a great training camp. He goes down to Miami and works against the Dolphins and he has a great couple, a great day of practice against them. He's just one of those guys that shows up on game day.
- [124:43]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [124:44]
Pete Prisco
Which is fine.
- [124:44]
Memes
Who's one guy that we should be paying less attention to?
- [124:48]
Pete Prisco
Less attention to?
- [124:50]
PFT Commenter
Good question.
- [124:51]
Pete Prisco
That is a good question.
- [124:52]
Memes
Thank you.
- [124:52]
PFT Commenter
Question.
- [124:55]
Pete Prisco
Somebody that's going to go right out the window. Out the door.
- [124:58]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Well, it's just like, don't even worry.
- [125:00]
Memes
About like a guy. We pay already, like the perfect amount of attention to the point where maybe it's a little too much.
- [125:08]
Pete Prisco
Kelsey.
- [125:09]
PFT Commenter
Oh, Kelsey, good pick.
- [125:10]
Memes
You know, hate, love.
- [125:11]
PFT Commenter
Well, we. We pay a lot of attention to Kelsey. So you're saying dial it back a little.
- [125:15]
Pete Prisco
Yeah. Because look, Kelsey, the football player isn't the same as he used to be. Let's be real.
- [125:21]
PFT Commenter
He was.
- [125:22]
Pete Prisco
He's one of, if not the greatest pass catching tight end one of them. And he's not that anymore. So he's more name than game than he's been in the past. Let's put it that way.
- [125:31]
Memes
This. That sounded perfect for like a Kansas City Chiefs fan to put that on a haters highlight reel at the end of the season when he's at a thousand yards and like 13 touchdowns.
- [125:41]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [125:41]
Pete Prisco
You see those yards per catch went down under 10 last year for the first time. I mean that. That's usually a telltale sign that a guy's getting old.
- [125:48]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [125:48]
Pete Prisco
And by the way, here's the other thing about him. He said, oh, I worked out this year. I didn't wear work well. Why didn't you work out last year?
- [125:54]
PFT Commenter
True. Good point. I could. Yeah, I could see it too. Like it's. It's middle of February, Kansas City super bowl parade. Travis Kelsey's like. And one last thing. There's a short Italian guy in Florida that said, I'm more name than game.
- [126:10]
Pete Prisco
And I sold my Taylor Swift tickets too, by the way.
- [126:14]
PFT Commenter
Oh, you did? Oh yeah. Did you get a lot of money for it?
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Pete Prisco
Oh, yeah. My wife. But my wife won the lottery and I didn't really want to go the first place. And this, it was at the stadium in Miami. I hate going down to that place because you can't get in and out of there. And so she said, my wife looked at me, she goes, should we just sell them? And I go, if you want to, let's sell them. Yeah. We didn't go.
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Memes
So we.
- [126:35]
Pete Prisco
So. So at that point at that parade, they could have both of them yelling at us.
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Memes
Yeah, that would be great. Yeah. Her next album, she's gonna be too happy. She might just write that about you, Pete.
- [126:45]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [126:46]
Pete Prisco
Okay, well, you know what? I could be a miserable sop you know that.
- [126:49]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [126:50]
Pete Prisco
You can write a lot of songs about me.
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PFT Commenter
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Pete Prisco
Where's my shirts, by the way? You haven't sent them to me.
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PFT Commenter
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Pete Prisco
Large.
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PFT Commenter
Are you really a medium, though?
- [127:13]
Pete Prisco
No, I don't wear tight shirts.
- [127:15]
PFT Commenter
Are you one of those guys, the SEC burners who tweet out their like. Like they're. Oh, look at that gun.
- [127:22]
Pete Prisco
Does that look like it's a medium?
- [127:24]
Memes
Pete is like 90%.
- [127:25]
PFT Commenter
You don't. You don't wear a shirt on your bicep, dude.
- [127:28]
Pete Prisco
I know, but you don't like him like that either.
- [127:31]
Memes
Yeah, no, he's got business arms where he takes the shirt off, you're like, whoa.
- [127:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. All right, so you have the Bills beating the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game. What's your NFC Championship game? And then your Super Bowl. And winner.
- [127:44]
Pete Prisco
Green Bay over Philly.
- [127:47]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Pete Prisco
And Buffalo over Green Bay. There's going to be a party like they've never felt in Buffalo.
- [127:55]
PFT Commenter
That would be insane.
- [127:56]
Memes
That's.
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PFT Commenter
They'll be thinking about Josh Allen a lot there.
- [127:59]
Memes
Yeah, it'll be in the snow, too. I'll probably be thinking about Josh Allen.
- [128:03]
Pete Prisco
It'll be the last. How about to go into the super bowl would be the last game in that stadium.
- [128:08]
PFT Commenter
Wow.
- [128:08]
Memes
Yeah, that's right. Because they got the pit opening up next door.
- [128:12]
PFT Commenter
They closed.
- [128:13]
Pete Prisco
That place is going to be unreal. I'm telling you, there's. There. Bill's Mafia. There's nothing like it.
- [128:19]
PFT Commenter
I know.
- [128:20]
Pete Prisco
And. And I've been around this league a long, long time, but those fans are nuts. And me going to training. By the way, every time I go to training camp in Rochester, I must have 15 Bills fans come up to me and say, I love you. On, pardon my take. I love you.
- [128:37]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's good. Good. Our people are strong.
- [128:40]
Pete Prisco
And you know what I always say to them? I go. They always try and trick me into saying something I shouldn't say, but they never do.
- [128:45]
PFT Commenter
Oh, that is true. Yeah.
- [128:46]
Memes
Well, no, you say a lot of stuff that you shouldn't say, but it's more like the Jaguars are going with the Super.
- [128:51]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. We don't find out for a year. Yeah.
- [128:53]
Pete Prisco
No, but I'm saying, like, you know, you try and lead me down paths to get me in trouble where. Like, if. If I didn't work for CBS and we were just sitting around shooting the. I'd probably get myself in a lot of trouble.
- [129:03]
PFT Commenter
Oh, you filtered pro.
- [129:05]
Memes
Yeah, you do hate Shador because of your college allegiances, but you. You admitted.
- [129:08]
Pete Prisco
No, no, no, no, no, no. That's a football. It's a football evaluation. And again, I'd like to see any reasoning why they're against them. Give me one.
- [129:17]
PFT Commenter
All right.
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Memes
Rookie of the year. Offense.
- [129:23]
Pete Prisco
Genty.
- [129:24]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [129:25]
Memes
Okay.
- [129:25]
PFT Commenter
What about defense? Abdul Carter.
- [129:29]
Pete Prisco
Yes. Absolutely.
- [129:31]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that one seems easy.
- [129:33]
Pete Prisco
Coach of the year. McDermott.
- [129:34]
PFT Commenter
Okay. MVP.
- [129:37]
Pete Prisco
Jordan Love.
- [129:39]
PFT Commenter
Okay. We. We. That's disgusting. He's also, like, 37 years old. We are. So we're running this on Wednesday. We already did this segment, but I want to hear yours. Least Improved Player of the Year.
- [129:54]
Pete Prisco
Least improved player?
- [129:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we do that every year. Boy.
- [129:59]
Pete Prisco
Who's the least improved player of the year? In other words, he stunk last year and he's going to stink this year.
- [130:04]
PFT Commenter
No.
- [130:04]
Memes
Or it could be really good.
- [130:05]
PFT Commenter
He could be awesome. He just didn't get better.
- [130:08]
Pete Prisco
Oh, okay. That's a tough question for me.
- [130:14]
Memes
Yeah, tough question.
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Pete Prisco
C.J. stroud.
- [130:17]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [130:20]
Pete Prisco
And by the way. And I don't think it's going to be his own due.
- [130:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [130:24]
Pete Prisco
I think that line. I think that line's a problem. And once the line's a problem, it really speeds up the quarterback and it becomes a problem for him, too.
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Memes
All right, Comeback player of the year.
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Pete Prisco
Who's the comeback player here?
- [130:38]
Memes
Christian McCaffrey.
- [130:39]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, that makes sense, because I think he's going to be back to being himself again until he tweaks something in week four like he always does.
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PFT Commenter
Last question. Kirk Cousins plays blank amount of games this year in the NFL?
- [130:53]
Pete Prisco
Zero.
- [130:54]
PFT Commenter
Wow. And all for the Falcons.
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Pete Prisco
Yes. There's some. There's some bad blood between him and the Falcons. And. And, you know, he kind of laid them out with the injury stuff after the season. They weren't real thrilled with it. They said, you know what? He's going to sit here and he's going to sit. And now he's going to sit there and rot. I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing. What if Penix has a couple bad. A streak of bad. Three or four games.
- [131:16]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [131:16]
Pete Prisco
Do you think that. Do you think that guys in the locker room will want to turn to Kirk Cousins and say, hey, look, we got a veteran over here, maybe he can help us win or what that happens?
- [131:26]
PFT Commenter
Or what if a team that has a Super bowl caliber roster gets an injury early and they're like, hey, Kirk Cousins.
- [131:34]
Pete Prisco
Okay, but who would that be? Like, give me an example.
- [131:38]
PFT Commenter
The Vikings.
- [131:42]
Pete Prisco
I don't. They could have, they could have tried to go get him if they wanted.
- [131:45]
PFT Commenter
To though 49ers.
- [131:48]
Pete Prisco
They'Ve had opportunity to go get them.
- [131:50]
PFT Commenter
I know, but I'm just throwing out names. Rams.
- [131:52]
Pete Prisco
Yeah. I think they'd stick with what they have.
- [131:56]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Memes
Jimmy G over Kirk.
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Pete Prisco
I mean, let's face it, when Kirk gets into a big game, he's going to melt anyways. What's the difference?
- [132:04]
PFT Commenter
What about Packers?
- [132:07]
Pete Prisco
I mean, maybe, but you really want to bring in a one year rental money guy like that? I don't know.
- [132:14]
PFT Commenter
You got a maybe.
- [132:14]
Memes
I like how you're saying the, the Falcons are going to stick it to Kirk Cousins by paying him what, like $40 million to.
- [132:20]
PFT Commenter
Not not.
- [132:21]
Pete Prisco
But he wants, he wants to play though.
- [132:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. No, it's true. He does want to play.
- [132:25]
Memes
I would love to have.
- [132:26]
Pete Prisco
He kind of stuck it to them too, a little bit.
- [132:28]
PFT Commenter
It's.
- [132:28]
Pete Prisco
It's. Look, it's not a good situation. Any way they shake. It's not a good situation.
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Memes
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Memes
I'm very excited for football, Pete.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [132:35]
Memes
I'm very excited to talk to you again.
- [132:36]
Pete Prisco
Me too.
- [132:37]
Memes
You look great. Your arms look awesome. Show your arms one more time.
- [132:40]
Pete Prisco
You want to see him again?
- [132:42]
PFT Commenter
That. Yo. Eagles minus seven and a half or Cowboys plus seven and a half?
- [132:46]
Pete Prisco
Take the points.
- [132:47]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Division game.
- [132:49]
Pete Prisco
I. I like the Cowboys office. I'm with you guys on that one. I think they'll score points.
- [132:52]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. All right. Thanks so much, Pete. You are the best. Sorry for keeping you up so late, Pete.
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Pete Prisco
For people got this all wrong. Spin this for people who for.
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PFT Commenter
For people who are watching on YouTube. You might have noticed when Pete first joined, he had to take off his. His sleep little. He had. He has a little like pajama hat that he wears to bed every night because he was. He actually goes to bed at 5. This is just his piss break. This is how long it takes for him to piss.
- [133:18]
Memes
This actually, you know what's great about.
- [133:20]
Pete Prisco
Trying to twist this on me? But the reality is this is at 9 o' clock so you could put your children to bed.
- [133:25]
PFT Commenter
No, we actually had to do. We. We're. We've been in the office since 5 o' clock so we've been doing this stuff.
- [133:31]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, normally. Normally we do this late because you have to put your.
- [133:34]
PFT Commenter
That's a fact.
- [133:34]
Pete Prisco
Fact.
- [133:34]
PFT Commenter
That's a fact. But tonight you're wrong.
- [133:37]
Pete Prisco
Okay, well, usually I'm right.
- [133:39]
PFT Commenter
All right, go put your little hat on. He has a little candle that he walks back to. His he, you know, when he snores, the hat just goes up in the air. It's really cute.
- [133:48]
Pete Prisco
Yeah, I'll be awake a couple times tonight already, but not for peeing just because I wake up.
- [133:53]
PFT Commenter
All right, thanks, Pete. Bye, Pete.
- [133:54]
Pete Prisco
See you guys.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest recurring guest. It is the playmaker hall of famer three time super bowl champion Michael Irvin. We've got the new Netflix documentary out about the 90s Cowboys America's team playmaker. It's. It's awesome to have you back on. Let's start with this in the documentary. Like, have you watched it back? Obviously you're in it so much, but have you watched it back and had, like, a moment to be like, holy shit, that was fun. Because it is a. It's just so much 90s nostalgia, and it's so well done.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah. And you know. You know what's funny? When I watch it, the first thing I thought, damn, the 90s were great, man.
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Memes
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
Not. Not just the Cowboys. I mean, the whole everything, you know, economy was going good, everybody living good. It was a lot of fun, you know, so. So. So that's the thing. And then you start thinking about all of the relationships that you have built over those years. So many you.
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PFT Commenter
You.
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Michael Irvin
You're calling old teammates, and we're rehashing these stories. Stories and laughing about them. We got people in our families that didn't know about any of this and certainly didn't live through any of this. So. So it's been a. An incredible journey.
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PFT Commenter
Both.
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Michael Irvin
Both talking about the peaks and reliving the valleys also. It's really. Has been an incredible journey.
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Memes
Yeah. It's a fascinating look into what was a wild time for the Dallas Cowboys being without question, the most popular team in America, the best. Best NFL team that we saw in that decade. And then also what you guys did off the field, it feels like you guys partied just as hard as you played. Did that ever. Like, I know it kind of came to an end after, you know, things fell apart after Barry Switzer joined. But when that transition happened between Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer, was that like a substitute teacher situation where you had Barry come in, you're like, now we can really. Now we can really have fun.
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Michael Irvin
Well, that's an analogy. But the reality is Jimmy. Jimmy brought us through the hard times, you know, and Jimmy was. You have to be a certain way to get people through those 1 in 15 and 3 and 13 type of years and everything. So you come through those years, and then you don't no longer have that general. And. And the next guy come in. Barry, who's a great guy. Barry, a great dude, man. Great man. Really great man. But a different style than Jimmy. Jimmy kept his foot on everything. Barry said, listen, we're grown men. We should have. We should know how to handle our responsibilities. And. And some men do it, some don't, you know, on the football field, and some do and some don't off the football field. So the guidance would have been needed, like, from Jimmy. But.
- [138:29]
PFT Commenter
But.
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Michael Irvin
But, you know, you look back, you understand that. That this is life. Things go down, things happen, people change. Jimmy left. Jimmy and Jerry had a spiff that we had had a breakup, a split up, and we had to figure it out. We would love to have kept Jimmy and just keep trying to do what we were doing. We often talk about we would have. Could have won five straight, you know, but. But it didn't happen that way. You try to make the most of it. I thought it was interesting after that year, we lost 94, that we had to put everything down and try to come back together to win that next year in 95. And. And we did. Yeah, with Barry, because we wanted. It was Barry Switzer, but it was also earnings and peasy. You know, we wanted. We want the guys that had Super Bowls. I remember right before the third super bowl, we. We were like, who doesn't have a Super bowl in history? Stand up. And then all the guys in the room, we had. We, like, we have Super Bowls, but they don't. Yeah, we're playing for the. You're not just playing for you, you're playing for them, too. And, you know, the Ernie Zampisi and all those guys. And we wanted to get that third one for them, and we did.
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PFT Commenter
So.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. And in that third one, the big story going into that season was obviously signing Dion, the big contract. I was shocked that, like, you guys. You guys. You and Emmett and Troy, like, had no problem with all that money going to Dion. Was that how you actually felt in the moment? Because, you know, it is a competitive environment. Guys want to get paid. Guys, you know, you're the best wide receiver in the league, Emmett's the best running back in the league, and then they pay the best cornerback 35 million. Was there any part of you that was like, hey, this is kind of bullshit. I've been here, I've won. Where's my money? Or was it like, no, I just want to keep winning, winning.
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Michael Irvin
Well, first of all, there were so many things on the back door with that situation. It was Dion, Emmett, and I was already there. And we were Miami and Florida. We needed our Florida State. And Dion came in and got completed that triplet. They completed a triplet from Florida in Dallas.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
See, so. So in. In the best part on. Honestly, Jerry sat down with every one of us, and he called me, he brought me in the office and said, listen, we're going. We're thinking about doing this. What are your thoughts? I said, why the hell you need my thoughts? You don't need my thought. Go get that done.
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PFT Commenter
Go here.
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Michael Irvin
I said, now that I know you're on it, I'm glad you told me. I'll be calling him tonight. And then I started doing the recruiting, you know, I told dm, Dion asked me. He said, man, I said to him, when I called him, I said, dude, we've been banging heads for a long time. It's time now to bring other people here to get to come on over here, beat their butts together, you know?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
And I told him, I said, man, whatever you see in San Francisco. Because he asked, he said, what is Dallas like? I said, whatever you think leaving Atlanta, going to San Francisco is. Whatever you think that is in San Francisco is just multiply by 10 and come across the water and you will see. He came in town that week to see me. We threw this big party, man, and. And, yeah, we pretty much. Look, we put on a full press court on that recruit.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
And right now, my best friend in the world, I love him to death. So, you know, we. We had no problem with him coming in and getting paid. Ain't our money.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
Let's all try to get as much money as we can.
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PFT Commenter
And I would imagine that's a little. That's testament to Jerry Jones, because he gets criticized sometimes for being so hands on. But in that situation, him being hands on and including you guys and being like, hey, this is something I'm doing beforehand probably helped the situation. Was there. Was there ever a moment he didn't.
- [142:23]
Michael Irvin
Say, this is something I'm doing beforehand? He says, is this okay to do?
- [142:27]
PFT Commenter
Right. So makes you feel part of the process.
- [142:29]
Michael Irvin
Right, right, right, right. Right. Now, if he had gone, man, and done all of that, this could have been a different thing.
- [142:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
But he came to us, he said, listen, guys, this is your team. You guys know what you're doing here. How would this affect us?
- [142:43]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [142:44]
Michael Irvin
What are you crazy? Yeah, let's go do that right now.
- [142:47]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, right.
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Michael Irvin
And then, if you remember now, Dion, remember, Dion got into it later on with. Dion had gotten into it with Andre rising. He. I had heard about some things with him and Jerry rising. So the first thing I was telling him was, like, when I got. I said, listen, man, all the mother jokers over. The mother I received was rising and Rice, Them jokers ain't from Florida. Come on over here. Let's stop messing. You know, you ain't gonna have no issue because we Florida boys, you know what I mean? So so, yeah, we just became best.
- [143:19]
Memes
Friends right when he got into town. I don't know how much you guys ever squared up with each other at practice, having the ones go against the ones. Was that something that, that you got to experience during training camp? Camp?
- [143:28]
Michael Irvin
Oh, yeah, all the time. Tommy and I work together all the time. That's how we wanted to sharpen our game. He would tell me all the little tips that he had on me over the years, and what cornerback would dare. I didn't think about. I, I, I, I'm going as Deion Sanders before he got there. Daryl Green, Nia Williams, Champ Bailey, Eric Allen, all of these are hall of Famers, everybody. So now I got Dion with me, giving me talks and helping me about great cornerback play, and I'm trying to help him with great wide receiver play. And yeah, we messed around in practice a lot. Like when Troy went Block 62, Dion played me enough to know that's the slant route. And so, so now I gotta say, Troy, Dion's over there. When you go, black62, and he's going to read that slant, I'm going to run a slanting go, you know, I mean, so, so I know he knows, so I'm going to set up his knowledge.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
So that's how, that's how you get. That's how you get great. And yeah, we love those things, man. I love those times that he and I first competed and then collaborated.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. The one thing that was kind of remarkable to me about this documentary is the White House, which seemed like a lot of fun for you guys. How did you get it so that no one will talk about the White House to this day? You had everyone still being like, no, not going to talk about it. Not going to talk about it. That's remarkable. You got, you got a bunch of guys who went there, who partied there, and then they get asked on a documentary 30 years later, and they're like, nope, not going to talk about it.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah, that's like that mafia stuff right there.
- [145:13]
Memes
Yeah, the Casano.
- [145:15]
Michael Irvin
Yeah. If you talk about it.
- [145:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you're not invited.
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Pete Prisco
We gotta get you.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah, but, but, but, but, but honestly. And, and, and I was okay with talking about it, and I think those guys were trying to honor and look out for me, but the reality is it's time to talk about things. You know, you get older and, and I'm. I'm a Christian. I'm saved, man. So I know God saved me to go get those same people that are locked up and trapped up in those Situations. So that one thing that was a stain before, now that you come through it and moving on in life, it becomes the badge that gives you. It's a badge that you can use to go in dark corners to help people that are still in those dark corners. It's just the reality of life.
- [146:03]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. So how, like, on a given week, when the White House was in its heyday, how many days a week were you there?
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Michael Irvin
Well, during the season. During the season we're working out now. After a game, we may go by because we're doing the celebration. A party. A celebration. Have a good time. But the funny thing about me, and I talk about this in a documentary, like, I'm playing a season after we won the super bowl in February, Jimmy will say, get away for a minute. For about that month, I would have a blast, you know, but wild out. Well, but after that month, March 5, my birthday, I start training and, and I go. And I used to think that I was the strongest dude in the world because I was like, why are people having drug problems? Why can't they just stop? I can have fun and just stop. You know what I mean? But I learned that I was, I, I was switching addictions. Like, I have fun for a month, then I got football to switch that addiction back to football, right? Then off season, I got that month away. I switched, you know, once I lost football, once I retired, and I was like, okay, this will be the last week hanging out. Then I'm gonna get back to working out. And then that week come back, I said, okay, this is the last week hanging out. I'm gonna get back to working out. Then that week go back. I said, it's the last damn week, I promise. You know what I mean?
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Memes
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So.
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Michael Irvin
So that's when I realized maybe your ass ain't as strong as your fake. You know what I'm saying? It was football pulling me out, not my strength walking me out. And when I didn't have football, I couldn't make that walk out without God.
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Memes
Yeah, I mean, the, the off seasons do sound like a lot of fun. You were the, the president of, of the White House. Would, Was there somebody that never got the invite that always wanted to go?
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Michael Irvin
No, no, no, no, no. I, I, I'll tell you this. Troy never came to the White House.
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PFT Commenter
White House.
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Michael Irvin
You know, Troy Joy, never been to the White House. But that's the only person I will exclude. That's. I'm gonna give him that. You know what I'm saying? I would exclude. You gotta understand, too Guys, this was a process. We didn't end up with the house. We started at a hotel, you know, doing what you do. And. And then you kind of get an apartment. And then the girls all kind of come at the apartment. They were making too much noise in the. 10 people around her were saying, what's going on? So we thought that was a bad move. And then actually, Alvin Harper came up with it. We should get a house. I was like, ding, ding, ding, ding. You know, think about it. You spend four or five hundred dollars on a hotel room a night. Three or four of us do that. That's a couple thousand dollars. That's rent on a house somewhere. I was like, wait a minute. And we can have it the whole month instead of just that one night. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, when Hart brought that to me, I thought it was a brilliant plan, actually.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
When Jerry, you see, Leon let. Called me about three weeks prior to Jerry calling me in the office, Leon said, hey, my Michael cat. He said, hey, man. And it was funny, guys. The movie was out, that new Jack City movie, you know, where. Where G Money called Wesley Snipes, say, hey, man, you gotta shut down the car. We've been infiltrated. Leon lit calls me. What's up, man? I said, what's up, dog? Hey, Mike, I heard the White House has been infiltrated. You gotta shut her down. I'm like, you watching too many movies. They ain't shut down, right. Two, three weeks later, I'm in meetings. We're an install that Wednesday meeting where. Where you're putting in the plays. And somebody comes and said, jerry wants to see you. Touch your. Wait, wait. We gotta wait. We're putting in the plays. I gotta make sure my plays are getting put in for this game Sunday, you know, so. And. And. And he said, no, Jerry says, right now. You gotta come right now. So I get up, I go see him, and he asked me, what the hell is going on. Stories are breaking all over right now about some White House. He said, michael, I need you to tell me the truth. What the hell is going on? First thing went in my mind was, leon, let's call. Damn, I should have shut her down. But I did shut her down. And then. And then I didn't know what to say to him. That's when I just said, boss, we were trying to do the wrong thing the right way.
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Memes
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
You know. And he looked at me, he said, are you shitting me? Did you just say that to me? Yeah, we were trying to do the wrong Thing the right way. And, and yeah, that. That's what that was.
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Memes
So he was mad he didn't get the invite. Invite, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Did you think about that? Like, hey, Jerry, if you want to invite, just ask me.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah, Jerry. Jerry said that. Joking. Now, one time, let me tell you, he's such a. Jerry's my guy. He's a funny dude. One time after all of that, I did get out, right. Because he had. Yeah, I had a 24 hour service, bodyguards, everything provided for me just to try to make sure nothing is tried. And I'm always okay. Jerry made sure. And I remember meeting some people and, and, and saying, oh, man, we can't go to the hotel. I certainly can't go back to the wire. White house. That's all gone until the complex. Right. I told my bodyguards, I'm gonna go get something. I took the girls inside the complex. We got in the whirlpool in the security. Because you had a key. A security key. The security was like, Michael, you can't, you can't get out of here. Shut up. You're not gonna cut me. Don't worry. I told him to go. They called Jerry the next morning and said Michael was here last night with some, with some people in the hot tub. Jerry calls me back up and said. He tells me about. He said, I told him, what the hell they calling me for this morning? You should have called me last night. I could have came and got that.
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PFT Commenter
Hot tub with him.
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Michael Irvin
But that's, that's just how he jokes about some situations, man. But, but Jerry's been a great. He's been a great supporter and a great friend.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. The. So I, I told you before we started, the documentary has been incredible. I have only made it through six episodes, so I don't know if it stays incredible for you because it gets into, you know, so seven.
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Michael Irvin
It gets into all of them.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, the barber shop, everything. The. But you said at the end of episode six, you're like, this is when I knew the dynasty was over. In. That's obviously with retrospect, after 90, after you win the third Super bowl, was there a feeling like things have changed now and it's probably not going to be able to get back to where we're at? Or was it like, hey, no, we still got this. We can, we can just show up and we'll be able to figure this out and we'll be able to fight through it? Or could you feel it kind of slipping away in the moment?
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Michael Irvin
Well, after that third Super Bowl, I thought we had that. I thought we would definitely win another super bowl that year. I got hurt. We had pit brought in Rocket Ishmael. We had Rocket in. It's the 99. I mean we, we started out great. Washington game. Yeah, we won that game overtime and we started out great with a 3 and O going into Philly. I thought we had a great chance to get back that year and I really wanted to get back back, but then I got hurt and then, you know, that's when I hurt my neck and I. And then things just, things just changed.
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PFT Commenter
So.
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Michael Irvin
So yeah, ever since that 96 Super bowl and, and then the incident, my situation at the hotel right after that, my only drive was trying to get back a great glory to, to the city of Dallas because I had interrupted our celebration of that third super bowl with that hotel situation. So. So yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought we had a shot at doing it again in 99 and, and when I went down, it just didn't happen.
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Memes
So on a personal level, one of the scariest parts of the story is that you found out that, that someone paid a hitman to kill you like you had. You had a bounty on your head. And I guess luckily enough they, they tried to solicit the murder from like an undercover FBI agent. So they were able to arrest the guy. But even knowing that the guy that wanted you dead is in jail, did that change the way that you had to operate, the way that you had to go about your day to day?
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Michael Irvin
No, you know what? I almost, Well, I was on probation. I got four years probation from the situation at the hotel. Right When I was in court. Johnny Hernandez was, I guess the husband of Rochelle Smith, one of the girls that were with me at the hotel. He said he did not want this thing to go to court. So the only way to stop it, since I wasn't going to plea, was to take me out and he put a hit out on me. I was in court when they came in the courtroom to, they said, we stopped proceedings. Mr. Urban, we need you in the back. And right away. And they pulled me in the back and they talked to me and they said, listen, we want, we wanted, we have to inform you, we just arrested Johnny Hernandez for attempted murder and putting hit out on you. And I was like, oh, wow, right. And, and, and ultimately in, in the doc, they said he had six years, he had two years. He got two years for that hit. I was on probation before he was getting out in two years. I had, I went to see him know, to visit with Johnny and, and to apologize for. For. For being with his girl, for taking his girl. And. And when I went, nobody knew. I went. I had my people reach out to the jail and. And they set it up. The. The ward set it up. He was a cowboy fan, so he. He wanted his pictures, and he. He set it up. I went in, saw them. They later found out that I. I mean, the court later found out that I went to see Johnny and they wanted to put me in jail for going to see him. I said to them, let me get this right. I would.
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PFT Commenter
Caught.
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Michael Irvin
Caught in a hotel room with a few women and some drugs. And I got four years probation. He tried to kill me. He's doing two years. I'm still on probation, and he's getting out. And you don't think it's smart for me to go apologize? Yeah, I don't know how you. You're letting him out. He can go hire somebody else. I don't know if he's still mad. He just did two years. Girl going, you don't know this. And you want me to just sit still? I was like, are you guys serious?
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Pete Prisco
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
You put me in jail. I'd rather be in jail than dad. But I had to make make my peace with him. You see what I mean? If he had enough to do it that one time, two years sitting down may make him want to do it again. And I had already. I gotten saved. It was the righteous thing to do. And was so funny. Well, not funny, but so interesting. When I walked in to see Johnny, I've never seen a man weep like that in my life. I've never seen a man cry out. I get emotional even talking about it and thinking about it. I've never seen a man. He was like, oh, my God, Michael, I've been praying so hard and you're going to come. And guys, God told me that you were going to come, and I can't believe you were here. I've never seen him. I started crying. I'm like, dude, try to kill me. And I'm crying with him. Why am I crying with him? But I just felt him. I just felt them. And, you know, and. And I thought it was the right thing to do to go apologize.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah.
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Memes
It's a crazy story.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
I mean, good for you for doing that. And you feel like you smooth that all over. So we. You walked out of. Out of that jail that day, you're like, okay, I think. I think I'm good.
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Michael Irvin
I think I'm good. I hope I'm good. You know, I. I saw. But I. I saw a change in him, too. I saw a change in him, you know, that. That sit down time had really changed him. He had. He had said, mike, I hope one day that we can kind of have a relationship and be able to talk about it. And I appreciate. I appreciated him. I really did. I appreciate the way he handled that after I came to visit him.
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PFT Commenter
All right, can we talk about the current Cowboys? Because part of watching this is like, holy shit, the Cowboys haven't been back to the NFC Championship game since the last time you won a Super Bowl. Like, people can make fun of Cowboys fans. They can't make fun of you, obviously, because you played and won those three Super Bowls. But, like, what has happened in the last 30 years that has, you know, like, you talk to Jerry, you talk to people in organization, obviously they want to win, but the glory days are so far past now. What. What, like, what does the future look like for the Cowboys?
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Michael Irvin
Right? And, you know, and what you're asking me is, what do I want people to. When you. When you bring in the documentary and you're talking about the current. What do I want this current team to get out of the documentary?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
You know, and the truth of the matter is to understand. Yeah, people talk about all the crazy things that went on, but I want them to get out of this. The closeness of the team, what it takes to win championships in this league, you. Because in the league, in football, you don't have any individual success like you can have in basketball. LeBron and get a rebound bound and go take it and dunk it on the other end, do that all by himself. You know, that's individual success. Baseball, you can slap home runs all by yourself, it's individual success. Golf, drop a putt, it's all by yourself. Individual success. There's no such thing as individual success. And football, What I need you to get out of it is only football families win Super Bowls. Not a football team, not a football organization. We were so close. Since you're so dependent and accountable to each other. Only football families win Super Bowls, and I hope that's what the current team gets out of that documentary. It's. No, I. I spoke to the University of Miami earlier this week, a couple days ago, and everybody's always trying to do comparative analysis. This the best team. That's the best team. This the best. But you. You got to understand what you. You. I tell him, I said, it's not about who's best. It's about us stacking greatness on Top of one another. You know, I want these guys to know we play. We did. When I had it, I, I stacked, I put my stack on top before they gave it to me. They had a Super Bowls here. I, My stack has to be. Have a Super Bowl. I want them to put their stack on top, Stack on top of this great, great dynasty, this great organization, and, and, and, and put your, put your trophy on the table. That's all the closeness that it takes to win a Super Bowl. You won't win as a football team and organization. You gotta have that commitment, that accountability and become a family. That's all I want them to get.
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Memes
Yeah, yeah, it's a fair point. I, I saw that you've always, They've.
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Michael Irvin
Always had the skill. It's just. I need the collective will. Those three years we went 12 and five, we had a good enough team to get to a Super bowl, good enough team to get to an NFC Championship game. They had the skill. It was just not the collective will. When we got to the playoffs, hopefully, that comes together.
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Memes
Yeah. So this is actually something that I think you're probably uniquely positioned to speak about. The dynamic between Pickens and CD Lamb, especially Pickens being a. It's his contract year right now, right. So he knows he has to play. How do you see that playing out for them? Like, if CD Catches a couple touchdowns in the first week, you know, puts up big yards at the start of the season, how do you feel like George Pickens is going to respond to that?
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Michael Irvin
When I was with cdc, Dam and I were at the game, the Knicks game together, sat together at the Knicks game. We had a good time, had a chance to talk a lot. And I love the kid. I love him. He's a great, great competitor. Great representation for the 88 in the 88 Club, you know. But. But what? The conversation we had, guys, was so good because we talked about why this worked. And I said to him, I said, man, I love, I love this combination. He said, yeah, man, I do too. You know, I've been talking with George and he. And I, I said, you know why I love it? I said, it reminds me a lot of Harp. And I. And he said, why do you say that? I said, because in the old days, 88, just like you, we took everything. 20 yards in, 20 yards in. I got all that. I got all that. That's all mine. Anything over 20, that was harps. We can, we can run that same road today. Yeah, CD Lamb will take care of everything. 20 yards in every now and then. We'll give them a little deep bar every now and then. They'll let me run deep, just about people up. But George Piggins gonna be taking it over the top. And. And. And, guys. So CD catch 78 passes, 20 and in. George gonna catch two or three over the top, and they'll have a lot of yards because he's going to be over the top. They don't commingle or they don't get in each other's way, because what CD is great at 20 in the end, like me, George is good at. But what George is great at going deep, CD is just good at. So. So they work out perfectly. And we've all got around George Pickens to make sure he understands that he's part of this family now. So it's not just about him playing receiver. Charles Haley went up to him and said, listen, I know they say you crazy. They said, I was. Was crazy. We want him to be comfortable. Yeah, he got crazy. We got crazy, too.
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Memes
We can win crazy.
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Michael Irvin
We can take your crazy. We know how to work with crazy. Come on over here. You know what I'm saying? But as a family, you want to make them feel like family. And.
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PFT Commenter
And.
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Michael Irvin
And he's been great, man. He's been great. I think he's going to be great here.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. It's. We. We like watching George Pickens play receiver. It's. It's a joy to watch. All right.
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Michael Irvin
Well. Phenomenal.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And. And.
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Michael Irvin
And. And people get mad at him. I'm like, get out of here. Who the hell has Pittsburgh had to throw this man the damn ball?
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Memes
Right?
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Michael Irvin
Nobody to throw him the ball. So even though we all know and said, man, he's a phenomenal player, he's been doing that with nobody throwing him the ball. So imagine what he must feel like right now with a Dak Prescott at quarterback.
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Memes
Yep.
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PFT Commenter
Michael, I have one last question. It's been awesome. Everyone go watch the America's Team Netflix documentary. It's really, really well done. It's. It's like, I just. Just. You know what it was for me hearing Pat Summerall's voice? I was like, damn, I missed that. It was just something about his voice. Just big games in the 90s. It was awesome. So, yeah, it's so good. Robot question. R, H, O, B A, C, K.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. You were notorious for being able to stay up all night and then be the first in the building and practice harder than anyone. Do you remember a moment where it's like you didn't sleep before a game or you party before a game or practice. You're like, oh, I don't know if I can do this. And you still were able to because it's, it's, it's insane to, to hear these stories and be like, man, he did that and then he went on the field and did that. That. It's pretty cool.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah. Stories always get greater later. Now. I was different during the season than I was in the off season. Those wild, wild nights happened in February. Even that night in the hotel was March 5, my birthday. Because you know, that's just what it. I, I had a system that I thought were great for me. You know, I would, during the season I just trained and work out and we went out after the games and had drinks. But they never did anything during the season.
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Pete Prisco
Right.
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Michael Irvin
Because you know, you had the game. I've never done anything before games. You have games. But from February to my birthday happened to be March 5th and we start training the second week in March every year. So I kind of felt like after the super bowl till my birthday, that's wild time. That's fair wildest time in new. And my birthday was on March, March 5th. And that's the night at Garden Hotel. The next week you start training and dude, I'll tell you something, I was always able to stop. I could be doing every kind of craziness, having fun. I would just stop. I used to get down on people but like that's a weak minded man. You can stop doing this stuff. Stop saying you can't stop until I retire. Because when I retired and then I retired, I didn't have football. I would say, say man, I'm gonna go out. I, I'm, I remember telling my lady, you know, that's it, I'm done. And, and it was a Valentine's Day and I told her, I said I'm gonna go get something to eat. I'm going to treat to get something to eat. I'll be back in a couple hours. She looked at me like I said I'm coming right back. I promise, I promise I'll be right back. I got home two days later, been out messing around, running around and, and, and I ran into some girl. I'll never forget this girl having some like, oh like some burgundy leather pants. I don't even know why I still remember. I don't know why I still even remember that. Right. And she and she came with me. I said, no, I'm cool. I'm going home. I'm going home. I gotta get home. He said, oh, really? Well, I really wanted to hang out, me and my friend. I said, who's your friends? Maybe we got a few hours. Come on. But a few hours. Took me a few days to get back home. I remember coming home, and my lady said, you lied to me. I said, yeah, baby, I lied to me. Yeah, I really thought I was coming back home. That's when I said, okay, this is. This is getting to be an issue, you know, I mean, so. But. But during. Dude, when I'm playing, I. What I was doing really was switching addictions.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Michael Irvin
You know. Right, right, right. So I'll switch addiction and get back and say, okay, now we got football. And then demeaning everybody thinking they're weak because they can't stop. And I can stop those kinds of things. When I didn't have football, I didn't have that switch. That's when. That's when I realized this could be. Be a problem.
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Memes
I. I do think your lawyer should have advised you to just plead birthday on that. Like, just see if the drugs will let you off. Be like, it was my birthday. Your honor, I tried.
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Michael Irvin
I tried. I tried to tell him that. I tried to say, listen, I tried to play everything. Jerry set up a personal meeting they talked about in a documentary with. With the district attorney. I said, when I met with that dude, I told him. I said, I'm telling you the truth. But that's when he. He didn't want to hear it. He called me off all kinds of names and. And then told me. He said, I'll show you tomorrow when you show up in court. The truth is, would I make it? I'm gonna make a. I said, I'm gonna filet you like a fish and leave you in the alley. I'm gonna show you tomorrow. I said, oh, really? That's when I went off. I know Florida stuff came out of me. I said, okay, bro, I show you tomorrow, too. That's why I showed up in the mink coat, even though it was 90 degrees in Dallas. You know what I'm saying? Because I knew the media was going to be there, and I wanted them talking about that instead of what he wanted to talk about.
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Memes
All right. Yeah. I mean, just saying, your honor, it was my birthday. If I was a judge, I'd be like, case dismissed.
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Michael Irvin
Yeah, right.
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Memes
Boys will be boys.
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Michael Irvin
And nowadays. But back then, things are more palatable now, you know, that's just the best way to say it. Things are more people gonna receive it now, digest it now. And so now I, to put it, I don't mind sharing the stories because, you know, we're past that and I want to try to help people. So now people hearing it when I, if it has a problem, when I come talk to them, they'll say, oh, yeah, yeah, you were that guy. I'll say, yes, yes, I am. And I can talk to you now. Right.
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PFT Commenter
All right, well, Michael, thanks so much. Appreciate you joining us as always. Incredible documentary. I would imagine you just close your eyes every now and then and be like, man, that was cool. And yeah, hopefully we, we see you again sometime soon.
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Michael Irvin
Anytime, guys. Appreciate you guys.
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Memes
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PFT Commenter
Okay, let's wrap up the show. We have pardon your takes for the 2025 NFL season. Next time you hear our voices, we'll have NFL football that we're talking about. And the countdown clock will be at zero. Wow.
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Memes
I can't wait.
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PFT Commenter
Wow, wow.
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Memes
Two days max.
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PFT Commenter
Are you nervous for Thursday night? Right.
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Max
Yes, but I. It's just new. I don't know. You're nervous before every.
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PFT Commenter
You're gonna kill him, right? I don't know. I hope. Okay.
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Memes
I mean, it's gonna be a bad weekend if you guys. Yeah, it's gonna be a great weekend, though. If you guys win on Thursday night, it's like free play.
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Max
This is what p. Yeah. PFT and I were talking about this before.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah. I. I hate that the Bears are playing Monday night football. Oh, that's the worst. It's the worst.
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Max
That's the worst.
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PFT Commenter
It's like having the, the last tip off on Friday night of the first round round. The worst.
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Hank
Okay, Hank fixed to the NFL overtime rule. If the team that starts with the ball scores a touchdown, the game is over. If they kick a field goal, the other team gets the ball. But if the defense forces a turnover or a punt, they win the game. If both teams kick a field goal, then it's just first team to get a stop wins. No time limit. Half the teams would elect to start on defense. It would be four down territory the whole time. Who says no?
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Memes
I think everybody would like to start on defense.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, right.
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Memes
Just like stop them from getting any points.
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PFT Commenter
A punt ends the game.
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Memes
A punt. Well, so nobody would punt. That'd be di. A fake punt would be electric.
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PFT Commenter
Would turn over on downs. Ends again. Yeah, I don't like this rule.
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Memes
Yeah, I don't like it either. Everyone would just be defense.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, no, that defense. That, that, that. It was a good shot.
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Memes
But at some point a Bucks game would go to overtime and Todd Bowles would send out his punter and then fake the punt.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Here's the NFL overtime rule idea. Each team gets the ball, you just no downs, no distance. Whoever takes the least amount of plays to score a touchdown.
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Memes
Oh, I kind of like that.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that'd be fun.
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Memes
If you go first, you just keep going.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, you just keep going forward until you get to.
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Memes
How about this? There's. There's no downs. Each team gets a ball, but it's least amount of time to score.
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PFT Commenter
I like that as well.
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Memes
Just on the clock.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I like that as well. Those would be. That would be fun.
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Memes
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Just to watch both like just teams just bomb. It wouldn't really look like football. Maybe you could do downs. Maybe it's least amount of time to score. Okay, how about this hybrid? Least amount of time to score. There are downs in distance. If you ever get to a fourth down, it adds a minute to your time. Okay. So it's still real football and you're trying to go fast. And if you get you. So you don't lose the ball after a fourth down, you just get a one minute penalty.
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Memes
I think we just invented a new sport.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that would be so awesome.
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Hank
Okay, if Europe got an equivalent league to the NFL, then would the game between the Europe NFL and the NFL be the new Super. Super bowl or do we keep the super bowl, call it the Ultra bowl or World Bowl.
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PFT Commenter
We would them up.
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Memes
It would just be like the European division has a representative in the playoffs.
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PFT Commenter
Right. And we would them up. Well, if It's European players. Is that what he said?
- [175:16]
Hank
It's like just Saudi money in Europe.
- [175:20]
PFT Commenter
Oh, I still feel like we'd them up.
- [175:24]
Memes
Yeah. They get too experienced with that European culture.
- [175:26]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Also like, Europeans somehow throw. Think about that.
- [175:31]
Hank
It just is European equivalent league. Doesn't mean the players have to be from Europe.
- [175:35]
PFT Commenter
I always thought it would be like a good.
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Max
I feel like the good players wouldn't want, like, free agency. Like, who are they going to sign?
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Pete Prisco
There's.
- [175:42]
Hank
We just went over. There's no taxes. There's no anything.
- [175:43]
Max
It's a good point.
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PFT Commenter
It's a good point. I've always thought it would be like an awesome. Maybe reality show. Maybe not reality show, but just like a short video of just like throwing baseballs to. Or footballs to European people and just having them throw. Try to throw it back.
- [175:58]
Memes
Super athletic European people. Toss it back.
- [176:00]
PFT Commenter
Hey, toss it back.
- [176:01]
Memes
Do it.
- [176:02]
PFT Commenter
Just watch them just fail because they. I mean, they don't. Why would they learn to throw cricket? They just learn to kick.
- [176:07]
Memes
I think that there would be a lot of players that might be interested in playing in Amsterdam.
- [176:11]
PFT Commenter
That'd be cool.
- [176:12]
Memes
That one might. That might attract some free agents.
- [176:14]
PFT Commenter
This is also. Was this a planning question for you, Hank, because you just want our sport to be taken from us.
- [176:20]
Hank
I want to grow the game meme. Send me the question. I just read them.
- [176:23]
PFT Commenter
Okay. All right.
- [176:25]
Memes
Okay.
- [176:26]
Hank
About football. What's up, fellas? Just curious to know how much you would pay to see your team win a Super Bowl. My girlfriend said I'm crazy for paying up to $10,000 to see a change. Thank you. Probably like 30. $30.
- [176:41]
Memes
Well, Hank, that would be an investment for you.
- [176:45]
PFT Commenter
This is a. I mean, this is a Your bet. This is a real thing for college football because you can pay for a championship in theory. Like, if I had.
- [176:54]
Hank
This is Super Bowl.
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PFT Commenter
I know, but. But I'm saying, like the. I was thinking about the other day, because Larry Ellison obviously paid for Bryce Underwood. Right. If you had. What is Larry Ellison's.
- [177:06]
Memes
I'm going to guess 40 billion.
- [177:08]
PFT Commenter
Okay, 280 billion. 270 billion. If I had $270 billion, I would. Every year, the Wisconsin Badgers would have a $200 million roster. Like, would you not do that for JMU?
- [177:25]
Memes
You know what I would do is I would also just pay random schools to steal all the good players from my rivals.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Memes
So, like, at some point, my roster is stacked. I don't have any chance to get anybody better. I just pay every other school in the country that's not in my conference. To steal good players away from the. The teams that are.
- [177:44]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I would. I would do like 150 to the Badgers roster and 50 to the max schools to raid all the other Big Ten schools. Yeah.
- [177:52]
Memes
Be great.
- [177:53]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Because this is a real thing for college football. Like, if you have endless money, you can. And you have a team, you can say, I want to. I want to just pay for all of it. So 200 million first. If I had. Well, for a Super Bowl. Yeah. If I had Larry Ellison's money. I guess that this doesn't work anymore.
- [178:13]
Memes
If I had Larry Ellison's money. Yeah. It. Let's say 5 billion.
- [178:16]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. It's an easy question.
- [178:18]
Hank
If you have Larry Elson's money.
- [178:20]
PFT Commenter
I don't know.
- [178:22]
Hank
All right, with Sunday, NFL Sunday is coming up, where you watch football for 10 hours straight. Is there anything you boys have done differently throughout the years to get through the day and to also be able to record the pod at your best while on Fumes?
- [178:33]
Memes
I've. I've stopped going out on Saturday nights.
- [178:36]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [178:36]
Hank
Most. Most.
- [178:38]
Memes
For the most part, I never go.
- [178:40]
PFT Commenter
Out on Saturday nights. I would say for the podcast in general, we have done a good job of starting recording around halftime of the Sunday Night Football game, which I know it kind of sucks because we don't talk about the Sunday football game as much, but I don't have it in me to start. Like, we used to start Eastern time at midnight, and we were already kind of loopy. So that. That one's, I think, a change for the better for the show.
- [179:07]
Memes
If the games. The problem is all the games happen at the same time. And so it's. You have to sit down after the afternoon games are over and really, like, look through and remind yourself of everything that happened.
- [179:17]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [179:18]
Memes
Because you forget with all the football that's going on, you forget all the details about every game. In an ideal world, it'd be great to do the show after Saturday Night Football, but given what the guys behind the glass have to do, it's really not real. And also our own brains.
- [179:32]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [179:32]
Memes
It's not realistic.
- [179:33]
PFT Commenter
Like, if there was a time zone we could live in.
- [179:36]
Memes
What if we were just in a plane that had, like, nine TV screens and we were just flying west for the entire game?
- [179:43]
PFT Commenter
What, like, all.
- [179:44]
Memes
All day on Sunday, going slow across the country?
- [179:47]
PFT Commenter
What time does football start in Hawaii?
- [179:50]
Memes
I want to say, like.
- [179:53]
PFT Commenter
We'Re. Five hours.
- [179:54]
Max
I can't do this again.
- [179:55]
PFT Commenter
I can't do this again, 7am yeah, that's too early. Yeah, like, that would be way too early. But that would also mean that we would be done with the podcast so early. Max.
- [180:07]
Max
I think.
- [180:08]
PFT Commenter
No, Max, we would. We would be. The games would kick off at 7. The second slate would kick off at 10:15, right?
- [180:15]
Max
Yeah, but, you know, we would run into.
- [180:17]
PFT Commenter
And the night game would kick off at 3pm we would.
- [180:21]
Max
But we would get. We would get so lazy. And then we would be like, oh, we got so much time. Time to record the podcast. And then we would report. Still record the podcast at, like, 10, 10pm Our time. And then it wouldn't get out until, like, noon Eastern Time.
- [180:35]
PFT Commenter
No, 2 2pm 2pm Is Sunday night Football in Hawaii. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.
- [180:42]
Max
That's. That's too much, Hank.
- [180:43]
PFT Commenter
But there is something. I. I went to Hawaii, and it was during college basketball season, and it was very fun to put in bets before you went to sleep and then wake up and it was like, halftime. You're like, oh, this is going well. Oh, this is not. Like you already have, like, a result.
- [181:00]
Max
I went to, like, a sports bar in Hawaii during, like, dinner time, and they were playing roofball.
- [181:06]
PFT Commenter
What?
- [181:06]
Max
Like, the TVs were playing, like, the TVs were playing roofball.
- [181:11]
PFT Commenter
That would have been sick.
- [181:12]
Memes
That's a dangerous game, though, if you. If you already wake up and you've got, like, a bad start to your day. Oh, yeah. You check your phone and immediately like, well, this is going to be a tough one to get through.
- [181:23]
PFT Commenter
Also, that happens every Sunday morning in the real world because I'll bet all of the late night college football games and wake up and be like, shit. That didn't go well, Hank. Last one.
- [181:37]
Memes
That was it.
- [181:37]
PFT Commenter
That was it. Wiper. What's going on with the mustache?
- [181:43]
Max
What's going on with your mustache?
- [181:45]
PFT Commenter
The new look.
- [181:48]
Memes
I don't know.
- [181:49]
PFT Commenter
Just trying something. Okay, okay, okay. Just trying something. All right. Oh, oh, someone's ready. What did you pick on Tuesday's show?
- [182:01]
Max
I got it.
- [182:03]
PFT Commenter
Okay, numbers.
- [182:04]
Memes
Three.
- [182:06]
PFT Commenter
That might have been PFC. I think Mike was off.
- [182:09]
Memes
I think it's big cat.
- [182:11]
PFT Commenter
22, 28. Come on.
- [182:15]
Max
He asked. I was just answering his question.
- [182:18]
PFT Commenter
Wait, did PFT get it or did.
- [182:20]
Memes
I think Big Cat got it?
- [182:20]
PFT Commenter
Okay, it doesn't matter. Yeah. As long as I get it. You want it?
- [182:24]
Memes
PT No, I don't want it.
- [182:25]
PFT Commenter
All right.
- [182:25]
Memes
Whose side are you on? Number sucks.
- [182:27]
Max
It's way better for. It's way better.
- [182:29]
PFT Commenter
I'll go.
- [182:29]
Memes
87.
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PFT Commenter
43. What's your number?
- [182:34]
Memes
I'll take 65.
- [182:39]
PFT Commenter
Hank, what was your number?
- [182:40]
Hank
22.
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Pete Prisco
99.
- [182:43]
PFT Commenter
Pug.
- [182:46]
Memes
1976.
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PFT Commenter
43. Did you get that? Zach? You got it?
- [182:58]
Max
No, Zach.
- [182:59]
PFT Commenter
43. Yeah. Let's go, Zach. Zack, Zach, Zack, Zach, Zach. Fuck. Yes.
- [183:09]
Memes
Let's go, Zach. That's awesome.
- [183:11]
PFT Commenter
Post game press conference. Wow. Big cap from. Pardon my take here. Zach, how did you do it?
- [183:17]
Zach
I guess it was always 43.
- [183:19]
Memes
Okay, Zach, what was your strategy in picking a ball that won?
- [183:24]
Zach
I was thinking in the 40s, and I was thinking low 40s. We went 43.
- [183:26]
Hank
How long have you been picking balls, Zach?
- [183:29]
Zach
I believe this is probably month three.
- [183:31]
PFT Commenter
Oh, wow.
- [183:32]
Zach
Or month four. So.
- [183:33]
PFT Commenter
And you did it that quickly?
- [183:35]
Memes
Oh, you know what? You were oh for 43 until you picked 43.
- [183:40]
PFT Commenter
Is that. Oh, my God. Wow, Zach.
- [183:43]
Memes
Amazing.
- [183:44]
PFT Commenter
Zach, for other people who have not gotten it, do you have any words of advice?
- [183:50]
Zach
Just gotta keep picking.
- [183:52]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Good advice. What about, like, maybe picking the right number?
- [183:57]
Zach
No such thing as right or wrong number.
- [183:59]
PFT Commenter
Well, no, no, no, no. You. You little picked 43, and 43 came up. That was the correct number.
- [184:05]
Zach
Every ball has their day.
- [184:06]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Well, except for memes. Memes. What do you think about Zach? Because that was. That was in your mind, like, hey, Zach's gonna maybe get it. And I still haven't gotten it. No, I said for the beginning.
- [184:18]
Memes
I hope Zach hits it.
- [184:18]
PFT Commenter
Oh, really? Yeah. Okay.
- [184:21]
Memes
It's pretty incredible.
- [184:22]
PFT Commenter
So can you, like, what can you glean from what Zach just did in front of front of us? This is historic. Guy knows balls. Zach, I'm very proud of you.
- [184:34]
Memes
You know what's crazy is that Zach was 0 for 43. Memes is now the only person that hasn't got it. He's. Oh, for 294.
- [184:44]
PFT Commenter
Whoa. Oh, Jack also hasn't gotten it, but memes has picked 190 more times.
- [184:53]
Memes
Yeah, a lot more.
- [184:54]
PFT Commenter
Damn, Jack, you'll get it before 294 guesses, right?
- [185:01]
Memes
Gotta get some longer shorts first.
- [185:03]
PFT Commenter
Oh.
- [185:06]
Memes
What'S up?
- [185:07]
PFT Commenter
You're gonna get it before 294 guesses, right?
- [185:11]
Memes
I hope so.
- [185:11]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah.
- [185:13]
Memes
Jack, comments.
- [185:14]
Hank
Comments on your shorts being very short from memes.
- [185:18]
Memes
I think they're fine. They're stylish.
- [185:20]
PFT Commenter
Oh, also, Zach, was that the first time 43 has ever been correctly picked or what am I looking at right here?
- [185:28]
Memes
I think that's Jack's pick history.
- [185:29]
PFT Commenter
Oh, that's Jack's pick.
- [185:30]
Memes
Yeah. Jack, what do you think about Zach getting the lottery ball.
- [185:33]
PFT Commenter
Right? I think it's talking to the mic. It's fine.
- [185:39]
Pete Prisco
Yeah.
- [185:40]
Memes
Okay, Memes, how angry are you?
- [185:43]
PFT Commenter
No, I'm chilling.
- [185:44]
Memes
No, come on.
- [185:45]
PFT Commenter
I'm just never gonna get it. Memes, come on. I'm good. You're mad at Zach. No, I was. Room for Zach. Okay.
- [185:52]
Michael Irvin
No, you weren't.
- [185:53]
PFT Commenter
Well, you. You still haven't got.
- [185:55]
Memes
All right, memes, go around the room. Who are you rooting for to get the lottery ball?
- [185:59]
PFT Commenter
Zach.
- [186:00]
Memes
Anyone else?
- [186:00]
PFT Commenter
Nope. No one else? No. Oh, so this is a win for you. Yeah. No. Huge. Yeah.
- [186:05]
Memes
Congrats, Memes. Did you pick it? Did you pick this?
- [186:10]
PFT Commenter
No, I didn't pick this one. You just picked Zach, who then picked it? Yeah. Okay. All right, Zach, incredible job. Thank you. And you know what? I think this might be the floodgates opening. You might be getting it all the time now.
- [186:23]
Zach
No, every ball has their day.
- [186:24]
Memes
Not every ball.
- [186:25]
PFT Commenter
Not every ball.
- [186:26]
Memes
Three has.
- [186:26]
PFT Commenter
Three is. Yeah, Three. Never. Literally never ever one time. Yeah, but it will probably be a day that I steal it. No, it came up one time. Oh, it did. And then the ball went missing. So. You don't think it's in here?
- [186:39]
Memes
I just saw it in there yesterday.
- [186:40]
PFT Commenter
No, this was June of 20 mean 3, and then the ball went missing.
- [186:47]
Memes
And I picked it for, like, a couple months, and it was just not in there.
- [186:50]
PFT Commenter
Damn.
- [186:50]
Michael Irvin
Damn.
- [186:51]
PFT Commenter
Damn.
- [186:51]
Memes
That sucks, dude.
- [186:52]
PFT Commenter
All right, great show, boys. But I did pick two correctly that one time.
- [186:56]
Memes
Congrats, Zach. Love you guys.
- [187:10]
Michael Irvin
Sam.
- [187:35]
PFT Commenter
Sa. Sa.