NFL Talk With Chris Long, NFL Week 10 Picks And Preview, Windmill Deep Dive, TNF Stinker + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Summary

Pardon My Take – November 7, 2025 – Summary

Episode: NFL Talk With Chris Long, NFL Week 10 Picks And Preview, Windmill Deep Dive, TNF Stinker + Fyre Fest Of The Week
Hosts: Big Cat, PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Guest: Chris Long
Theme: All things NFL Week 10, wild Thursday Night Football, deep-dive on wind turbines (yes, really), listener Fyre Fest woes, and a little bit of everything else in classic PMT style.

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Overview

This episode delivers the classic blend of humorous sports commentary, genuine football analysis, and chaotic side tangents that define Pardon My Take. Big Cat and PFT Commenter, joined by NFL vet and podcaster Chris Long, cover everything from the abysmal Thursday Night Football showdown to Week 10 bets, fantasy tips, a wind turbine controversy, and listener Fyre Fests. The crew also gets philosophical about solo restaurant dates, birds vs. windmills, and coping with missing baseball.

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Key Segments & Timestamps

1. Thursday Night Football Recap (02:00–10:52)

• Main Take: The game was utterly unwatchable—a true Thursday night stinker.
• Teams: Broncos vs. Raiders, with both squads labeled as “dogshit.”
• The guys riff on bad quarterback play, inept coaching decisions, and the misery of watching these late-season matchups but admit they can’t look away:
  • “I don't think there's any two team combination they could roll out there on a Thursday night where I wouldn't actually tune in and watch.” – Big Cat (03:10)
• Memorable moment: PFT's wind factoid: At Denver’s altitude, wind hits different, making Thursday’s punting debacle a scientific marvel (04:10).
• Quote: “I learned something tonight about wind.” – Big Cat (04:10)

2. NFL Week 10 Preview and Picks (10:53–61:17)

• Morning Games & International Series:
  • Colts vs. Falcons in Berlin; discussion about Sauce Gardner’s immediate impact after a trade, coaches’ track records in international games, and which teams are “passport ready.”
  • “I’m just pumped to see Sauce Gardner in that uniform.” – Big Cat (14:38)
  • PFT’s stat: Teams coming off a loss as a favorite before playing overseas are 15-9 ATS historically (19:08).
• Bears vs. Giants: Deepest breakdowns focus on the Bears’ run game, Dable’s hot seat, and the curious saga of supportive NFL dads on Twitter.
  • “At some point, records have to matter.” – Big Cat (31:37)
• Bills vs. Dolphins: Observations on the Bills’ trade deadline inertia and Miami’s “just lose out” mentality.
  • “The Bills just own the Dolphins.” – PFT (34:01)
• Ravens vs. Vikings: Ravens expected to “take off,” but Lamar's recent NFC woes noted.
  • “The Ravens are really good, right now.” – Big Cat (37:39)
• Jets, Browns, Patriots, Chargers: Standard PMT banter and game theory, with a side of in-depth fan pain.

3. Windmill Deep Dive (44:52–54:52)

• Topic Origin: Hank tries to avoid wind turbine talk, but PFT is “here for the birds.”
• Stats Banter:
  • Wind turbines kill far fewer birds than house cats or powerlines.
  • “Cats are responsible for an estimated 365 million to 2.4 billion bird deaths per year… Wind turbines are only about 140,000.” – PFT (48:13)
• Quote: “If you’re a bird and you get killed by a windmill, that’s on you.” – Big Cat (47:27)
• Insight: Both hosts land on “feral cats are a problem” as the real conclusion.
• Memorable moment: The Don Quixote aside: “There’s been one guy in the history of the world as anti-windmill as Hank... and that’s Don Quixote.” (51:53)

4. Chris Long Interview + NFL Analysis (103:28–143:24)

• Chris Long joins (103:28):
  • Talks UVA football, life as a multi-team NFL alum, and the Eagles/Rams/Pats' chances.
  • Trades/Deadline: Chris discusses the psychological impact of trading (or not trading) core players—“it’s a public declaration of where a team is headed.”
  • Colts’ bold trade for Sauce Gardner gets high praise.
  • Betting & Week 10 Takes:
    • Loves the Ravens and Bucks this week (137:52: “I really like the Ravens. I think the Ravens roll this week... I also like the Bucks.”)
  • Classic O-line vs. Secondary debate:
    • “You cannot manufacture coverage. You can manufacture pass rush.” – Chris (112:13)
  • Locker Room as a Workplace: Chris issues a rare, relatable take about NFL “locker-room distractions” and the reality of professional athletics.

5. Fantasy, Blind Resumes, and Other Bits (94:48–96:13)

• Jerry’s Fantasy Minute: Sits: blind resumes, wind turbines, 1-800-GAMBLER; Starts: Giants WRs, Theo Johnson, and “the people of Indianapolis.”
• Touchdown Parlay: Panel builds a TD parlay headlined by George Kittle, Trey McBride, and Lad McConkey (94:44).

6. Fyre Fest of the Week (144:46–164:34)

• Dodgeball injuries, golf drama, and child sleep terrorism:
  • Big Cat: Getting owned physically at the Barstool After Dark stream.
  • PFT: Handling the never-ending Luke Kwon “apology tour” and the agony of missing baseball.
  • “I just hope that next time I sleep in and miss something, I get the amount of people being like ‘I stand with Luke Kwan’.” – Big Cat (153:20)

7. Notable Tangents & Quotes

• Solo Restaurant Dates: Joe Flacco recommendation, Zach’s sticky toffee cake, and general discussion of “mezzo-life” in the city (161:43).
• “Are the Italians Done?”: Peak Jersey Jerry (74:01): “Italians are done done. No, because a lot of them are attracted to Latinos...”
• Max’s Fantasy League with Tommy Alter: “My team name is Beat Tommy. Dude, I’m tired of it.” – Chris Long (135:55)
• NFL Announcers as “Hater Crew”: The hosts fantasize about calling bad games and just roasting everyone. (10:17)

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Standout Quotes (w/ Timestamps)

• On TNF: “The NFL should send us a thank you card for watching it. We’re going to keep consuming that garbage.” – Big Cat (03:00)
• On the Giants’ coaching drama: “At some point, records have to matter.” – Big Cat (31:37)
• On Chris Long’s approach to pass rush vs. pass coverage:
  • “You cannot manufacture coverage. You can manufacture pass rush.” – Chris Long (112:13)
• On windmills vs. birds: “Cats are responsible for estimated 365 million to 2.4 billion bird deaths per year in the US alone... wind turbines are only about 140,000.” – PFT (48:13)
• On solo dining: “It’s great. There’s no small talk; you get to eat at your own pace.” – PFT (162:01)

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Final Thoughts

Pardon My Take remains appointment listening for football diehards, bettors, and sports meme-lovers. This episode stands out for balancing legitimate football insight (from Week 10 breakdowns to Chris Long’s in-depth X & O knowledge) with classic comedic bits—from bird mortality stats to windmill vendettas and the recurring theme of sports talk’s beautiful unpredictability.

If you didn’t catch this episode:
Expect football talk that's equal parts informed analysis and unfiltered fun, with a willingness to chase down any weird tangent the awls, memes, or bad Thursday night games can inspire.

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Quick Reference: PMT’s Week 10 Locks

• Ravens -3.5 (Chris Long’s best bet)
• Colts -6.5 (Zach)
• Lions -7.5 (Big Cat)
• Ravens/Vikings Over 49.5 (Max)
• Touchdown Parlay: Kittle + McBride + Lad McConkey at 15:1 odds

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(For full time-stamped breakdowns of each game, see “NFL Week 10 Preview and Picks” above.)

Transcript

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

It'd been too long.

[PFT Commenter]

That wasn't a pun, but it worked out that way. We're going to do our week 10 picks and preview. We're going to sadly recap Thursday Night Football. That absolutely sucked. We're in that zone now. Later in the season, we're just going to get shitty ass Thursday Night football games. We got Fire fest. We got some windmill talk, Jerry's fantasy minute and our best bets. And it's all brought to you by Game Time. The NFL is in full swing. Tailgates pack stands that buzz before kickoff. But getting in nightmare cues, price jumps, getting logged out mid click. All you want is to be there, beer in hand, losing your voice with the crowd. And the Game Time app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use. And the Game Time guarantee means you can Trust you'll get 100% authentic tickets on time and at the best price. Plus fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. We're looking at tickets for. What do we got?

[Big Cat]

Steelers at Chargers.

[PFT Commenter]

Steelers are Chargers. What? What are the prices?

[Big Cat]

A lot of Steelers fans probably going to this game. You can get in for $173 in LA.

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[Big Cat]

I'm a believer. But the bow wins football games. This is why we've been saying that he is Tim Tebow.

[PFT Commenter]

You.

[Big Cat]

You can give them all the credit in the world. For this. And it was. That was a dog football game. The NFL should send us a thank you card for watching it. We're going to keep consuming that garbage. It doesn't matter. I, I don't think that there's any two team combination they could roll out there on a Thursday night where I wouldn't actually tune in and watch. But I did wish for a moment that that YouTube TV was also blocking prime video. I thought that would have been. That would have been nice, I think. But Bo Nicks tonight was so bad. So bad. There's one particularly. It was a really egregious sequence. I, I forget if it was in the second or third quarter. It was around halftime. But they picked off Geno Smith in plus territory. Then the Broncos go three and out, punt. Then they force a three and out from the Raiders and block that punt, then get the ball at like the 10 yard line and then they go three and out and kick a field goal. Yeah, and that's. That's what tonight was. That, that was the offensive explosion. And ironically, if you thought it was going to be a punt fest, I. In the first half, AJ Cole was dominant as a punter. Two coffee corner punts inside the one and, and the Broncos.

[PFT Commenter]

The Broncos sucks. Yeah. Yeah. He was getting booed.

[Big Cat]

Learn something.

[PFT Commenter]

They're doing the punter.

[Big Cat]

They were booing the whole team even though they were winning. Which I, I don't blame them for. We're going to talk about windmills later on in today's episode, but I learned something tonight. I learned a fact about wind. Because in the first quarter, the wind was blowing so strong and the ball was like rolling around on the field. The referee had to come in, like re spot the ball. Did you know that at altitude, mile high, the wind doesn't have as much of an effect because the air is so thin. So if it's blowing 20 miles an hour, 20 miles an hour in Denver is like 25 miles an hour down at sea level. So just something to remember in the future.

[PFT Commenter]

That is. It's a good, good thing to remember. I don't want to remember anything from this game. The Raiders are just dog shit. They had one drive where you're like, oh, the Raiders are live tonight. They had the graphic at the end of the game. The Raiders had one interception, one punt blocked, nine penalties, one missed field goal, one touchdown negated by a penalty. And while they were showing that graphic, they kept it on there for a very long time. Almost like really rubbing it in. They were just showing everyone sat on the sideline. Gino got hurt and the Raiders are so bad. They're like, we just got to make sure he. He's like 30% and we'll keep playing him and the game. To me, the perfect encapsulation was when the Broncos, it was third quarter on like maybe the 40 yard line, the Raiders 40 yard line, they had a third and one. It was like third and maybe like six inches. And they decided to do a trick play pass backwards that almost was a fumble and then ended up being a sack. And it was the most. What the fuck are we doing right now? What are you doing, Sean Payton? What are you like, just run the. You have third and one in a game that the Raiders cannot score. Just run the ball right in their face twice. And if you don't get it, guess what? The Raiders cannot score. So it doesn't really matter. And it was just. The whole thing was just a debacle. Like, I don't remember seeing two pretty makeable kicks missed in Mile High. Like, it were like it was tonight. It was just. Yeah. This is what happens later in the season. Thursday night football becomes a slog. Especially division games where teams know each other. I don't know how much longer Pete Carroll will do this. It doesn't seem like he's having fun.

[Big Cat]

I would agree, and I'm starting to agree with Hank. I don't know how much competitive advantage Tom Brady could possibly be getting if that's what the end result of it looks like tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And you could actually make the argument that the Raiders maybe outplayed the Broncos.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because in the first half, there were two drives back to back drives for the Raiders. One knocked them out of field goal range on a penalty. One knocked them out of field goal range on just a stupid sack by Geno Smith. Take a stupid sack on that, they could have easily had six more points. Hypothetically, at least three more points. Let's just say that. That the kicker misses one of those two. Now that I think about. I don't think either team outplayed the other team. I think they were both equally bad tonight. Bo, Nick, sometimes when he drops back and he just chucks it, he is. He looks like he's playing.500, the most of any NFL quarterback I've ever seen. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The total yards, by the way, in this game, total yards were just over 400 total for both teams. So both teams were under two or. The Broncos had 220. The Raiders had 188. It was both had 10 first downs. Yeah, they. I'm looking at the stats right now. It was, you know, six first passing, first downs to five, four rushing, first downs to five. Like they were. They were both just shitty. And it was, it was a tough watch. 22 penalties total. And the bonix is. I will say this. Bo Nix's interceptions weren't really his fault.

[Big Cat]

No, they weren't.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, the first one. Yeah, the first one. Second one was his fault. The first one was.

[Big Cat]

The first one was the 500 throw where he drops back and he throws it as high as he can and under throws his receiver by about 7 yards to the point where the receiver, a cornerback and a safety all turn around, get their hips square to the ball, retreat three yards and then jump in the air to try to make a catch. Yeah, that's. That seems to be what Bo likes to do. And I think we were all waiting for him to just turn it on in the fourth quarter because the Broncos offense is so much different in the fourth quarter than it has been for the previous three quarters. It just never happened. It was just. They built the entire game out of the first quarter.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So. All right. That was Thursday Night Football. I'm mad at ourselves for waiting to record the beginning of it. We should have been. We love, we love the awl so much. We had to. We always stay up for Thursday Night Football. I'm mad at myself right now. I think the awls are mad at us. They're like, why did we do eight minutes on what the fuck we just watched? Just prolong the game. There's a little overtime from a shitty game. Got it. I was. When the Raiders were lining up for that kick, I was like, if this fucking game goes to overtime. It was reminding. Reminiscent of the Broncos Colts game, the Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan game a few years ago. It was, it was just so.

[Big Cat]

It was. I would have liked Al to get a little bit more upset during this game. He. He usually re. Reserves his anger for the referees now on Thursday night where he'll just be like, yep, well, I could have told you there was going to be a penalty before they snap the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

My. My theory too on Al is that it just depends on how long of a flight he had to take. So when he's like at a Chargers, the Chargers playing the Vikings, which was a blowout. He was pretty happy tonight. Broncos like Denver to LA is not that long of a flight if he has to call next week. Jets Patriots. We're going to get a surly, surly Al Michaels because he's Got to go cross country. He's going to be pissed off. That's a fact.

[Big Cat]

I do like it. It's. It's cathartic for. For us to listen to because we're thinking the same things as Al. So I'm glad that he's reached the point in his career where sometimes he just doesn't give a fuck. And he'll be like, this game, this game stinks, guys.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sorry. They actually, they actually need to do that for, like, they should have a second set of announcers for when a game goes really shitty that you can roll in that are just. It's like, you know what? The way this game's going, we're bringing in the Hater crew and they just start shitting on everything. We should. That should be something we opt into.

[Big Cat]

I think we'd be pretty good at that role.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We'll just sit in our studio, be like, hey, just. Just call us when a game's going really bad. We'll just. Just hop on and we'll just be the Hater crew.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I like that idea. I like it a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay. We're gonna kick it to ourselves back in studio. We're gonna have more fun because we actually have week 10 to talk about, talk some windmills, talk some Jerry O', Connell, have. Have Chris Long on the podcast. Great podcast. Back to ourselves. Okay, before we get to the weekend preview, DraftKings NFL fans, what's your favorite touchdown? There's over 100 years of TDs to pick from. For me, it's the next one. Because with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner, the NFL, every touchdown could bring you closer to cashing in. DraftKings Sportsbook delivers the unmatched intensity of the NFL right to your fingertips. From first touchdown score to any time, TD props or the thrill of live in game betting. Every snap is loaded with opportunity. Boys. We got to win one. Did we get shut out? Well, Luke got hurt.

[Big Cat]

Let's see. Luke got hurt as early exit Mahomes. Didn't throw any touchdowns. I'm Kelsey.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then shut up. Who was the third?

[PFT Commenter]

I can't even remember.

[Big Cat]

We scored one.

[PFT Commenter]

It was bad.

[Big Cat]

Was it Puka?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, Puka didn't score. Remember? He. He almost scored beginning of the game.

[Big Cat]

I think he did.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought Puka did score later.

[Big Cat]

He did score.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Either way, we're. We're bad right now. So we. We gotta. We gotta come up with something good. We gotta come up with something good.

[Memes]

We.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll have that later on in the show.

[Big Cat]

Luke would have scored.

[PFT Commenter]

Luke would have. That was the Luke night.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And they were trying to.

[Big Cat]

Travis should have scored.

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

I got an idea.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So chicken.

[Big Cat]

Chicken.

[PFT Commenter]

Chicken.

[Big Cat]

I'm talking Chinese.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I like that.

[Big Cat]

General.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

That's. Yeah, it's really nice.

[PFT Commenter]

That's nice. We have back. We're back to the morning games. We have a Germany game and we'll start there with the Falcons and the Colts in Berlin.

[Big Cat]

Or Munich. Berlin.

[PFT Commenter]

Berlin.

[Big Cat]

And the Colts are hosting. Yeah, they're the home team this weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

Colts are the home team.

[Big Cat]

Very important.

[PFT Commenter]

Colts are minus six and a half. Over under is 48 and a half. The Falcons got to win one of these desperate games. I don't know if it's going to be this one.

[Big Cat]

I'm just pumped to see Sauce Gardner in that uniform.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that's. This has got to be a crazy week for him. So he gets traded and then he flies over to Germany on Thursday night and he hangs out with the team for, like, the first. It's going to be like an unrealist expectation for that relationship moving forward. It's like the first week of your relationship is on vacation somewhere.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But I. I think that he's exactly what the Colts need in terms of, like, a football player.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Raheem Morris said he hopefully doesn't have a passport.

[Big Cat]

That would be nice.

[PFT Commenter]

A fun little coach joke.

[Big Cat]

Do you remember season one year one of part of my take, we kept diving into whether or not teams had passport yet. That's right where everyone has to get a passport.

[PFT Commenter]

We should ask Chris Long that the.

[Big Cat]

Second you get to the NFL, make sure you have your passport. Now every team needs it, not just Jaguars.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. This will also be Raheem Morris's first time coaching overseas without a quarterback named Josh.

[Big Cat]

That's a fun stat.

[PFT Commenter]

So he lost in 2011 with Josh Freeman, lost in 2009 with Josh Johnson.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So will he be prepared to play without a Josh Josh list? Yeah. Although he's 0 and 2. He's. He's 2 times 2. Josh's own 2.

[Big Cat]

So not a Josh Merchant?

[PFT Commenter]

Not. No, the opposite. Maybe he needed to rid himself from Josh to have a chance.

[Big Cat]

All right, finally, Josh free. See if he can get one. I like the Colts in this one. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, I think the bounce back for the Colts is going to be high. They're a very good team. We talked Chris Long about it in a minute. Like adding someone like Sauce Gardner at the deadline, it gives you the pump up of, like, we're going for it. I do have one thing I wanted to throw out to you guys, and I'm. I'm going to say this right now. I don't. I don't believe it. But I was just looking at it. Okay. I was just looking at it, and it's the odds to win the AFC South. Obviously. The Colts are very, very good. They're 7 and 2. The Jaguars are 5 and 3.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The Jaguars are plus 310 right now. And I say that because if you've looked at the Colts schedule, it's not easy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm in Pretty tough schedule. So I broke it down. The Colts are playing the Falcons this week. I think that's probably a win. Then they have the Chiefs, Texans, Jaguars, Seahawks, 49ers. Back to back is tough. And then finish again with the Jaguars and Texans. This all comes down to my theory is this. The Jaguars actually control their own destiny. If they could somehow beat the Colts twice, they will win the AFC South.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that counts. Yeah, it counts as control your own destiny.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Like if you look at. And then. And then on the other side, the Jaguar schedule is a lot easier. They played the Texans this week. Then they have the Chargers, which is a tough game. Then the Cardinals, Titans, they also have the jets in there and they have the Titans again. So they still have two more games. They have. They have four games against the Titans, jets or Cardinals.

[Big Cat]

You sound a little bit like Prisco right now. I'm just saying if you look at the Jaguars schedule.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't, I don't. I don't think the Jaguars are better than the Colts. I just want that on the record. I'm just saying if you're looking for value, the Colts have a difficult schedule and the Jaguars have a easier schedule and they play twice. And if the Jaguars can somehow beat the Colts twice, that would erase the lead that had. That exists right now. Yeah. And then you're just going on the. The rest of the schedule and the Jaguars have an easier schedule.

[Big Cat]

I, I get that. That's a very logical argument for the Jacksonville Jag. I, I just think that the Colts are much better team.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm. I'm. Hank, are you betting it? Yeah, I just did. Oh, okay. I, I couldn't bring myself to bet it. I was just more doing a thought starter like hey, who's. Who's maybe got a little value going into the. To halfway part point of the season.

[Big Cat]

What is. What's Trevor Lawrence's record as a starter in November and December? I would want to look that up.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably not good.

[Big Cat]

Because I don't think it's very good.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I don't think his record as a starter period is very good because remember he started with Urban Meyer and went to in 14 or whatever.

[Big Cat]

That is true. But when they've stacked wins it's usually been early on in the year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

For the Jaguars and faded a little. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way, here's a stat for you. Teams coming off a straight up loss as a favorite before an international game are 15 and 9 against the spread, including 2 and oh. Against the spread this season. Just an interesting. Like hey, if you were a favorite and then you lost, usually have a nice bounce back game.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Just one of those angles that we always look for. Like you're. If you're. If you've got a big game coming up, you don't want the team that's a favorite to. To lose that week.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

That kind of thing.

[Big Cat]

Interesting angle to get.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just an angle that has some stats to back it up.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Can you repeat that stat? I don't know if.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Teams coming off a straight up loss as a favorite before an international series game are 15 and nine against the spread, including 2. 0 against spread this season.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So like if you're a favorite and you lose a game, you're going to probably have a, a real international.

[Big Cat]

Point.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's just. What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

Neutral site? Yeah, so you said international international series neutral site.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's, it's team coming off a. A loss, straight up loss as a international favorite before an international series. Yeah. Then they get a little.

[Big Cat]

Well, it's just one interesting data point. Like it's. It's that the entire.

[PFT Commenter]

About data points.

[Big Cat]

It's interesting for the international series for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

It's very interesting for the international.

[Big Cat]

I've.

[PFT Commenter]

This is sad.

[Big Cat]

Where.

[PFT Commenter]

This is so sad.

[Big Cat]

There was just some news that just came that just came out like right now as we're talking about this game. So I'm really glad that Shefter tweeted this out.

[PFT Commenter]

We just got tagged with sad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we did. It was sad.

[PFT Commenter]

But make the graphic PFD and big cat sad.

[Big Cat]

DeForest Buckner is not traveling to the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Doesn't have his passport.

[Big Cat]

Neck injury. Yeah, neck injury. So that's, that's a big one.

[PFT Commenter]

Flying with a hurt neck would suck.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know it would kick ass if you were told you didn't have to go on the international trip the day of the international trip. Imagine how awesome that would. I hope he doesn't have to go.

[PFT Commenter]

Right? Incredible.

[Big Cat]

Don't put that man on a plane.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think he goes to the facility?

[Big Cat]

Watches at the facility?

[PFT Commenter]

Dude, there's got to be. No, it's like Home Alone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Go to the facility and just have it all to yourself.

[Big Cat]

Just order a bunch of pizza.

[PFT Commenter]

Be so awesome.

[Big Cat]

That'd be very. Mark Sanchez is trying to break in. We should be trapped for them.

[PFT Commenter]

We should see if a team will host us at their facility on a week they're in international.

[Big Cat]

Do you think they have like a big screen TV that just the people that work in that office get to watch the game on. Yeah, probably like a huge one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, like a. Like a really, really big.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that would kick ass.

[PFT Commenter]

Our dreams are basically finding another place we can watch all the football games that are have an open space, maybe a basketball court or. Oh, they probably so sick.

[Big Cat]

They probably have an ice cream machine.

[PFT Commenter]

They probably have an ice cream machine. Probably have a shitload of food delivered.

[Big Cat]

A hot tub watching and the team issued hot tub.

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be sick.

[Big Cat]

That would kick ass.

[PFT Commenter]

What are the Falcons doing with kickers? They get.

[Big Cat]

They got Zane, they got Zayn.

[PFT Commenter]

So they went from young young ho to Parker to Zane Parker.

[Big Cat]

Romo is no longer their kicker. I think. I'm pretty sure Zane is going to be kicking in this game. He's a good kicker. He just. It's tough. I don't want to discriminate against individuals with obsessive compulsive disorder because it's a real thing that people learn to live with their entire lives. But it, it just doesn't give you the most confidence as a fan when you're watching on TV and your kicker is having to do his rituals before he goes on the field. Now he's a good kicker. He's managed it and it's got a cool name. Pretty impressive that he's gotten to this point in his profession which is all about being mentally tough.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

So he's obviously figured out a way to. To take what was a limiting factor and make it a strength of his. I'm just speaking strictly. If you're watching on TV and you're nervous and you see that it doesn't. It makes you more nervous at home.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But shout out.

[PFT Commenter]

Zane, I got another two quick stats for you. One I don't understand, but I'll just say it because it sounds cool. Colts have scored 61.3 more points than their expected point totals this year. Number one in the NFL. Falcons have scored 39.8 fewer points than their expected point totals this year. Number 32 in the NFL. So basically the culture way over expected and the Falcons are disappointing.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the other one, which you know, pft your season last year there was a big. A big part of the. What the commanders were doing was aggressiveness on fourth down. It felt like you guys were always getting fourth downs. Having the ball kind of roll your way. The Colts are kind of in that zone right now. The Colts on the season are 15 of 17 on fourth downs.

[Big Cat]

That's good.

[PFT Commenter]

88.2% conversion percentage. No team has ever had 15 plus fourth down attempts through their first nine games with that high of a conversion percentage. 2020 Bengals had the second most. That's pretty crazy. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then you get to the point where now you're calling plays on second down. Not necessarily to must get a first down or third down. You're not having to get a first down. You're killing plays that could get you like one yard away, two yards away, three yards away. And then you have a play for that and ready to go.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The Colts have been great this year. I think. I think Steichen, he's like top what? Definitely in the top three for coach of the year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So far this year. Yeah. So one thing I'm looking at in this game is the fact that we're seeing a lot of or back to back games from Bijan where he has not looked great, combined with the Falcons just forgetting to use him and Indy has the number four ranked rush defense. And what we could be looking at is another one of those games if the Colts jump out to a lead.

[PFT Commenter]

Bijan.

[Big Cat]

The Falcons forgetting to use Bichon.

[PFT Commenter]

They just knew what the Falcons need to do is just put in the cool Bijan camera in every stadium.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because that seems like when he does really well.

[Big Cat]

I agree with that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like fly it out on your own dime. If you're the Falcons. And Arthur Blank's like, Listen, I paid $50,000 to put this camera in the stadium in Berlin. Do you know anything about the grass in Berlin? I don't because the international games. Always weird grass situation going on there. Maybe some slippery ass turf. I don't know. I'll be breaking out the World War II puns.

[PFT Commenter]

Got to.

[Big Cat]

Don't really have any. Right. I wish the Colts still had Reich as their coach.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be. That would help.

[Big Cat]

That would be fish in a barrel for them.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be very easy.

[Big Cat]

They're going to love Kirk Cousins though. They're just going to look at him and be like, wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Look at that.

[Big Cat]

Look at that.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at his jawline.

[Big Cat]

He is him. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Let's go to Sunday afternoon or the first slate. So we. We're getting our morning slate out of the way. We have the Giants at bears. Bears minus four and a half. Over. Under is 46 and a half. The Giants are still wearing their throwback helmets. Good. Which are awesome. I'm nervous about this game because I don't think the Bears can stop anything. And that makes you nervous about every game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, I understand that. But the defense has looked a lot better. Like it's. You've held up against the run.

[PFT Commenter]

Ours.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, at times. Yeah, you've held up against the run at times.

[PFT Commenter]

Not if 470 yards for Joe Flacco was bad, right? No, the defense is not good and it's very injured and we don't have a pass rush and we don't have a secondary. Two very important parts of defense. I do think the Bears are gonna have a lot of success just running the ball down the Giant's throat. And that would be my hope for this game. But yeah, the Giants are frisky. I mean, Jackson Dart is a. Is a definition of a frisky quarterback right now.

[Big Cat]

He is. He's made a lot of really good plays when he's had to scramble around off schedule. That's what's tough for Brian Dable. And he's done a great job, like we said, of trying to date Jackson Dart. They're probably going to get to firm dating in Chicago and Dable's gonna be like, oh, this is crazy. They only give us one hotel room. Oh, I guess we could, like, I can see if they could do two beds.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, they don't have two beds, so maybe just one. But he does.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll go. We'll go head to feet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's all good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Uh, but it, it kind of hurts his case a little bit that Jackson Dart is making a lot of these plays outside the design play. Like scrambling around and making something happen on the move. Not really the way that it's drawn up. So while you might get a few splashy plays, Dable's like, fuck, I really wish that my offense was. Was working a little bit better so that I could. I could claim them a little bit harder. But yeah, I think you're right. I think Chicago's going to just. They're going to pound the fuck out of the rock.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to pound the rock. You got to pound the rock. I did see our. My friends at. At Sports Info. Sol send me a positive Bears stat. So the Bears are actually not better when they're doing a lot of motion, pre snap motion. They have a 53% success rate on drop backs without motion and 41% with motion. And the Giants, though, are a past defense that's top five against motion and bottom five against static looks. So that actually plays into the Bears favor in this game.

[Big Cat]

That is good.

[PFT Commenter]

The Giants are not good when it's static. The Bears are better when it's static.

[Big Cat]

How many players are going to attempt to pass for the Bears this weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think as many as Ben Johnson wants. Yeah, as many as Benjamin, by the way, Caleb Williams. Not wrong, just early. The Bears, through eight games, have the least amount of punts in their franchise history. In the Super bowl era, 28, 26 punts. Not wrong, just early. That was bad last year when it was like 85 punts after he sent that text.

[Big Cat]

No, the offense has been looking exciting.

[PFT Commenter]

Just was. Wasn't right. Yeah. Colson Loveland, mvp.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

He won the MVP last week.

[Big Cat]

He did.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He got slimed.

[Big Cat]

He got slimed big time. And Ben Johnson confirmed on a podcast this week that he just watches guys at practice and he notices if they can throw and he's like, okay, we'll work out a new trick play for this guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you're right.

[Big Cat]

He looks like he's got a cannon on his arm.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm. I. I do think the Bears are going to win this game. I'm just. When you go into a game with a bad defense, it. Anything could happen.

[Big Cat]

I have a question about the Bears for you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Roma Dunes dad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's always been a little bit of an issue.

[Big Cat]

I kind of like him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because he's. He's, like, always standing up for his son is. Sometimes I imagine that Rome leaves practice. He's like, what did dad tweet? Oh, I don't think it's. I don't think it's speaking for Rome at all. No, I think he's speaking like, as a dad, my son's the best. Get him the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's where my. My take on Rome's Roman June Day's dad. I think his name is James. James Dunes.

[Big Cat]

A.

[PFT Commenter]

He has tweeted many times about stuff, and I think that if you're going to be one of those dads, if you do it a lot, I don't care. Because it becomes kind of white noise. Like, oh, he's mad again. It's when a dad just shows up out of nowhere one time and being like, they're fucking over my son, then you have to write articles about it and take notice to it.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

He's just. He's just doing it. He. He's done this multiple times. I don't care. He's sticking up for his son.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It doesn't bother me.

[Big Cat]

That's kind of how I looked at it, too. And I like that. The Bears put out a video of Roma Dunes a mic'd up during the game and then tagged it. Like, selfless.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Almost like the Bears clap back at Roma Dunes dad online.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he, he actually like if you watch that game, he was doing a great job blocking in that game. And that was a big Ben Johnson Johnson culture change thing. The whole no block, no rock.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And part of the run game being good is because guys are buying in. DJ Moore, Roma Dunes A. These guys are buying into blocking downfield and you get these big chunk plays in the run game. So yeah, Rome's fine. He had one game where he didn't catch a ball. Who cares? He's got a, he's got a good amount of touchdowns this year. I think they'll probably try to target him a few times. I'm excited for this game. It's not a must win. But The Gateway, the 6 and 3 Gateway would really be nice if we got to 6 and 3 and not the 5 and 4.

[Big Cat]

How hot is the seat for Brian Dable? Would you say? Is it blazing hot?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, because to answer your question. Yeah. You have the quote.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, I have the report.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I have the John Mara quote. Do you have a job?

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, no. There was a report that came out like an hour ago.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I don't have.

[Big Cat]

You give your quote.

[PFT Commenter]

The quote from John Mara was in January of 2025. He said, if I'm sitting here a year from now and you're asking me these questions, I'll take the heat on bringing back Brian Dable and Joe Shane. It's been almost a year and you're still getting the question. So you taking the heat?

[Big Cat]

I guess he's got to take the heat.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got to take the heat.

[Big Cat]

Well, there was a, there was a report that came out like an hour ago. Sean Mirage from New York, he's a radio host there, he said that Dable was about to be fired right after the Denver Broncos loss.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, wow.

[Big Cat]

When they gave up that, that late fourth quarter lead, the collapse and someone talked John Mara out of it. He was going to be fired in Denver, I think was. It could have been Dart. It could have been Jackson Dart or Jackson Dart's dad, I don't know. But it did feel like it was. That was a very, very bad loss. I didn't know that Dable, I didn't think that the Giants organization was leave a coach on the tarmac. Yeah, I didn't think that, that they had that in them.

[PFT Commenter]

We talked about it last on Monday's show. Brian Dable, first year, seven and two through nine games.

[Big Cat]

Two and seven. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And then he's no, no. He was seven and two through nine games. His first.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then since then, two and seven. Two and seven. Two and seven.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. You could think he's a good coach at some point. Records have to matter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's really what it comes down to.

[Big Cat]

I do think he's. I think he's a good coach, but.

[PFT Commenter]

Records have to matter.

[Big Cat]

They have to matter at some point. And Jackson darts dad went on a Ole Miss podcast this week and they asked him about Lane Kiffin and he was like, yeah, somebody, you know, we're on a text thread with him. The whole Dart family is still texting with Lane, which is awesome. And then somebody sent a link to like Lane Kiffin to the Giants as a joke and Lane Kiffin said, not interested. Too cold up there. So Lane Kiffin has officially taken his hat out of the running to be the Giants next head coach because of coldness.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That's, that's actually like, nice that he gets the. He. Lane Kiffin is so sought after, he can just decide his next job based on temperature.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But do you think. Do you think that they would have made more moves if they were going to get a new coach or a new gm? Actually, it's more on the gm, I think.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think they're combo.

[Big Cat]

Like if you're trying.

[PFT Commenter]

They did draft Jackson Dart.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's good. If you're trying to attract a. I think a good young quarterback will bring in a coach, but having assets that would bring in a great gm.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

And so they didn't really get any of those before the trade, but they.

[PFT Commenter]

Do have a good. They. They have a good roster, or I shouldn't say good roster. They are. They have some pieces that are nice.

[Big Cat]

Yes, they have. I think they have the exact right amount of pieces to get a very good coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Like if they were to talk about they have quarterback, they've running back Andrew Thomas is really good. They theoretically have a very good neighbors. Is really good. They theoretically have a very good defensive line.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Very good.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot.

[Big Cat]

Some young. Some very young pieces.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. So there's something there. Yeah. This will be a tight game, though. I, I just don't know if the Bears have the ability to blow anyone out because of their defense. Are you going to do Giants?

[Big Cat]

I did him last week.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I can go back to the.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, okay. Let us know when the hungry dog when you start popping up. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I just want to say if. If Brian Dable does get left on the tarmac in Chicago. There's two obvious ones. Just come to the office. Yeah, like you'll come hang immediate guest on part of my take. Sunday night couch is yours.

[PFT Commenter]

We have a Jackson dart at home. His name's Ben Mintz. Yeah, you just talk to him. Okay. Bill's at dolphins. Dolphins minus nine and a half or. Sorry, Bill's minus nine and a half over. Under is 50 and a half. The Bills just own the Dolphins. They have owned them in this series. Overall, the Bills have beaten the Dolphins in seven straight meetings, including 14 one straight up in their last 15 matchups. That's a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So the last time that the Dolphins beat the Bills, the Bills were also on a seven game winning streak. So it's, it's tough to beat the Miami Dolphins eight times in a row.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

That's what we always say.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the Bills are probably going to win this game.

[Big Cat]

I would tend to agree with that.

[PFT Commenter]

Brandon Bean basically was like the trade deadline. I sounded like the Bills were trying to make moves and it was just what he said. Damn, that was a waste of time. Yeah, that's what he said about the trade deadline.

[Big Cat]

Do you think that the Bills. Which fan base do you think is the most upset at the lack of moves at the trade deadline? The Bills could be up there.

[PFT Commenter]

Patriots could be up there.

[Big Cat]

Hank personally up there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, probably. I'd say probably the Bills wanted a.

[PFT Commenter]

Receiver, but we're going to talk to Chris Long. He's going to tell us why the Bills are just fine how they are and built to win.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think their tight ends are going to go nuts this weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

This is kind of weird for Miami though, because they're just, they're just basically playing out this season, not going to fire or bench anyone and just. They're just kind of. Is what it is. Like they're just showing up the. It's that meme. The. The teacher shows up the same, like in the same shirt every day.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's just what they're doing. Mike McDaniel showing up in the same pair of Capris.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Two is showing up with the same attitude of, hey, I can try my best, but I'm still short.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then they're going to lose and then next week they'll just show up with the same thing and nothing is going to change.

[Big Cat]

I mean, hopefully if you're a Dolphins fan, nothing does change this season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Just lose.

[Big Cat]

Just lose.

[PFT Commenter]

Just lose out.

[Big Cat]

Got hit the hard. Well, they, they did fire. They fired Greer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They did fire.

[Big Cat]

We didn't think that that was going to happen.

[PFT Commenter]

So, like, you did make one change. You're right.

[Big Cat]

If you're a Dolphins fan, that's. That's actually a huge change that you have because I don't think anybody expects McDaniel to come back next season, no matter what. Right. So they have. They did make the big change that you were renting planes out to fly banners behind, demanding. So I think you got to be like a little bit, like a tiny bit optimistic about the direction that you're going.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So. And then Tua said that he's not playing. He. He's not playing to keep his job. He's playing to try to help our team win. That's good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I like. Zai is still fucked up a little bit.

[Big Cat]

His eye, it got more red. I think it's weird.

[PFT Commenter]

It's weird. So, yeah, this game is Bills.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Next up, good game. Battle the purple Ravens. Vikings. Right now, The Vikings are three and a half point underdogs. Over. Under is 49 and a half. I like the over in this game. I just don't think. I think Lamar. I think the Ravens are ready to take off. I think they're ready to take off.

[Big Cat]

A little stat that. That a lot of people forget about Lamar Jackson and his record against the NFC. He's 0 and 2 in his last matchups against NFC teams.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Something interesting to think about. Before that, I guess he was. He's 24 and 3 lifetime against the NFC.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, he's owing to. Who do you play this year?

[Big Cat]

Let's see.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, the Raven play the Ravens.

[Big Cat]

Lions.

[PFT Commenter]

They lost the Lions. They did, yes.

[Big Cat]

Anyone else don't know what the other team is?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But it might have run out. Yeah. Oh, Philly. No, they lost to Philly last year. Right. Did you guys play them last year? Yeah, we beat. Yeah, we won. Yeah. So that's it. I think it's. I think it's Philly in the lines. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Owen two in his last two, but.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he was 24 and he was 23 and one until the loss to the. To the Eagles and the Lions.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Now on a little losing streak.

[PFT Commenter]

A little bit of a losing.

[Big Cat]

I do. I do agree. I think that the. The Ravens are. They're a really good team right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, I don't. Yeah. I don't know if they're. I would like to see them win this game convincingly, then I'm ready to say they're a really good team right now because it's two. They played. Lamar didn't play in the Bears game, and then the Dolphins. So I'm not ready to say all the way that they're a really good team right now. Do you know, is that fair?

[Big Cat]

I think that's fair. But we also expected the Ravens to get really good even when they sucked.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I want to see them. This is the game. This is the game that if they win this game, I can. I can get back to saying they're really good right now. They're. They're not really good. They're trying to get back to it.

[Big Cat]

We'll see. We'll also find out a lot about JJ this week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How many yards did he have in his wins? 173.

[PFT Commenter]

143.

[Big Cat]

143 yards.

[PFT Commenter]

143 yards, two touchdowns, one interception, one rushing touchdown. In both of his wins that were 27, 24.

[Big Cat]

So that's the formula.

[PFT Commenter]

That is the formula.

[Big Cat]

We've got it.

[PFT Commenter]

Just get him to exactly that and he should win. Although the formula is also playing against division opponent, which is not true. Anything else in this game. I like the purple. The Ravens are obviously. The Vikings are wearing the majority of the purple. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But still, it's very purple.

[PFT Commenter]

It's very purple. I like purple on purple. Also, Derek Henry is a lot better when Lamar Jackson's in the game, which is a no.

[Memes]

Duh.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But his. His. His rushing yards per average. I actually. Someone texted me this stat. I think Ebo texted me this stat. It was a pretty good one. Give Derrick Henry some love. Derek Henry. With Lamar on the field this year, Derek Henry averaging six yards per attempt. When he's off the field, he's averaging just three points. Seven.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty, pretty drastic. Jump off.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta. You gotta worry about everything.

[Big Cat]

This is one of those matchups that I don't recall. These teams playing against each other, the Ravens and the Vikings, I would agree you lose it a little bit because of the purple, but yeah, I can't. This matchup never happens.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So enjoy it.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, JJ McCarthy said that he has an alter ego. He flips a switch on game day, calls it nine, nine comes out. And I gotta understand he can't be at his peak performance throughout three and a half hours. So how do I find little ways on the sideline to get back to my breath, get back to my visualization that can maintain that intense competitive stamina throughout the whole game? It's the pure will, determination to get the job done. So watch out for nine dude, that's awesome. Nine. So he puts on. When he puts on the eye black in the. In the locker room. Nine. That's nine.

[Big Cat]

Doing that doesn't answer to jj. No, just strictly nine.

[PFT Commenter]

That's nine. He. Did you see that clip of him in the locker room? He is a psycho.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's nuts. And I do think that his teammates love him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, you saw their reaction when he. He threw for a touchdown last week. Everybody is. Everybody's bought in on JJ Inside that lock. Now, it might be bought in like a cult and it might not work, and they might end up drinking Kool Aid instead of champagne at the end of the season, but you can tell that his teammates actually enjoy playing for him and they're rooting for him. And they. They like him as their quarterback, which goes a long way.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay, next game, Browns and jets. Memes. Jets plus one and a half over under 30. Seven and a half. How are we feeling? I actually think the jets are going to win. I also think the jets are going to win. Okay, good. You're back. I'm back. We have A.D. mitchell. There's now a receiver that Garrett Wilson actually respects in the wide receiver room, opposite of him. Back or no? He's back. Oh, he is. Okay. Yeah. And Justin Fields doesn't know if he's the starter or not. He'll be the starter. Okay. Because he said that he's like, I don't know. Yeah. I think they're playing week to week with the starter, which I actually don't mind. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Keep them guessing. So, Memes, are you. You're expecting the jets to win or you're hoping that they'll win? They'll win the game. Where you at?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm expecting them to win.

[Big Cat]

It's. It's going to be. God bless John Fanta for going to this game. Yeah, God bless. God bless everybody that is attending this game at MetLife Stadium. There was. There's almost a trade this week. Memes that didn't happen. Did you see. Did you read about the trip, the move that the jets did not make?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

They. They received some interest in Garrett Wilson and do you know what team was hoping to get him and ultimately failed? I'm going to guess the Bills, The Cleveland Browns.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Tried to get Garrett Wilson. I don't know why that would. Why. Why. Don't really have a receiver, I guess.

[PFT Commenter]

Judy is kind of. But Izzy.

[Big Cat]

But why? Why?

[PFT Commenter]

Got to try to stack. Stack some. Some good players.

[Big Cat]

I think their GM was probably just bored.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he's just kind of reaching out, being like, hey, I wonder if I could trick them. What about Garrett Wilson? Yeah. Maybe they'll say yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, I'm very happy that the. The other trade that didn't happen that was talked about was the jets trading Breeze hall to the Chiefs. The jets wanted a third rounder. The Chiefs only wanted to give up fourth rounder. That would have sucked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If the j. If the Chiefs got pre. Solved, that would have sucked. Oh, yeah. They would have won the whole thing. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I want everybody to remember this. If the Chiefs don't win the super bowl this year, the jets stop them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's the one team that can stop facts. The Kansas City Chiefs is the New York Jets. You did your job.

[PFT Commenter]

It's true. Zach Wilson did outplay Patrick Mahomes on Sunday Night Football that one time. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did.

[Big Cat]

So true.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, Aaron Glenn just made a little correction on expectations for the Jets. Did you see this quote?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Sometimes you need to clarify yourself. Yeah. He said, I want this to be a team that the fans are proud of. But again, I never said they were going to be proud of them right now. Just to clarify, at some point, I want them to be a team that the fans are proud of. I stick to that. This will be a team the fans are proud of. Don't let go of the rope. Just continue to watch us work. So just so we're clear, he never said right now they're gonna be proud of them. Never said that. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Sometimes you got to clarify what you.

[PFT Commenter]

Say in front of a microphone. Yeah. Just admitting to, like. Yeah, we get it. You guys do not. You're not proud of this.

[Big Cat]

I said I would take out the trash. I didn't say I was gonna do this week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, right now.

[Big Cat]

It could next week.

[PFT Commenter]

What, are you crazy? Right now?

[Big Cat]

I think Aaron Glenn, I think the team likes him. He's got a. He's got some big learning curve about, like, how to deal with the microphone.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Well, I. Jet PR team is, like, the worst in the league.

[Big Cat]

How do you think they should have handled that? Like, what should. What if you're the Jets PR team, what would you do?

[PFT Commenter]

Tell them to stop saying shit. Stop. Stop. Stop giving expectations. Stop tossing. Stop.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no expectations.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good. That's. Jets fans take every single word you say, and they're like, well, he said.

[Big Cat]

We were going to be proud. He said we were a couple pieces away.

[PFT Commenter]

He said all we had to do was retool. No. Just to be Clear. He never. He didn't say proud right now. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just say we're going to suck.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Building for two years and then we'll be good in 2028.

[Big Cat]

I do think that a lot of coaches forget that the majority of the people that are listening to their words are fans of the team that will take what all the good stuff you say and be like, okay, yeah, yeah, let's go. I think a lot of times they're just so caught up in not giving any, like, splashy quotes or bulletin board, anything like that, that they end up forgetting that they can be doing a disservice to their own fans. Yeah, that's good advice.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He was essentially aura farming memes. Question for you. Because this game is not going to be the best game. Would you like to talk about wind turbines real quick? Sure. Okay. Max, is it okay if we talk about wind turbines? Because you are the accusations that you are maybe paid off by oil or someone else. I don't know where your angle is, but you shut down the wind turbine conversation very quickly.

[Big Cat]

You guys can talk about whatever you want.

[PFT Commenter]

People were mad that I wanted to.

[Big Cat]

Get back on track, but that's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's on me. You just. But just tell us who's paying you. I didn't even know that wind turbines.

[Big Cat]

Was a political thing, meaning hand up. I didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

The fact that it turned in. I just thought that we were going off on a tangent and I wanted.

[Big Cat]

Us to get back to football. I just care about the ocean.

[PFT Commenter]

Gaz tweeted. Very funny. Also, what the fuck was Max Delonte's problem? He spelled your name wrong. Not even close. Probably continuously trying to change the topic off of wind turbines when Hank was. Was about to take down the whole industry. Max Delonte, live of the year. I didn't know it was either put me up for. Not for nomination. I did find out that 10% of our energy comes from wind turbines in America. That's pretty cool.

[Big Cat]

That's good.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that not something you would be interested in?

[Big Cat]

That's cool, I guess.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you're not. You're not. You're not ready for that. You don't like that 46 million American homes can be powered by wind?

[Big Cat]

Can be. Oh, wait, you don't think they do. Why does it say can be?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I mean, it's how much energy they take.

[Big Cat]

They provide. Are they. They know they're saying that they provide enough energy for 46 million homes. It's not saying that like there's 46 million individual homes. And those homes are the only ones that get all the. All the wind energy. Interesting. Yeah. I don't understand why it's canon, not R. Because the energy goes other places too. It should go to buildings.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Go to offices, Go to scoreboard. You go to TVs. Shout out.

[PFT Commenter]

Awl Ethan, he works in wind turbines. He sent me some stuff. He said that they're massive, obviously, which are really cool. Just incredible engineering. What we've seen that we've.

[Big Cat]

Everyone's seen a winter.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. But I don't think you understand how massive they are.

[Big Cat]

I have seen them. You know how big those blades are?

[PFT Commenter]

How fast do you think the blades are moving?

[Big Cat]

I don't know, 100 miles an hour.

[PFT Commenter]

200 miles an hour. Cool. How about that? That's pretty cool.

[Big Cat]

Imagine being a bird just trying to fly west.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's funny, actually.

[Big Cat]

So, but the first of. Before you get to the actual facts, if you're a bird and you get killed by a windmill, that's on you.

[PFT Commenter]

Question. Do you have anything against house cats?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay. Because we should probably just eradicate all house cats because house cats are responsible for an estimated 365 million bird deaths per year. Wind turbines are estimated140,000 bird deaths.

[Big Cat]

One is man made.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just saying, I'm like, cats are killing millions and millions of birds. That is literally. Turbines are killing life. A couple hundred thousand.

[Big Cat]

The circle of life.

[PFT Commenter]

A couple couple hundred thousand birds fly into a wind turbine. Like, idiot. That's not the circle of life.

[Big Cat]

Did you say 300 million?

[PFT Commenter]

It's actually the. The range is insane. I don't know how this is a range. Cats are responsible for estimated 365 million to 2.4 billion bird deaths per year in the US alone. And then the feral cats are the biggest threat, by the way. They're. They're doing it all the time. And then wind turbines are responsible for an estimated 140,000 to 680,000 bird deaths annually. Also, Awl Ethan said he's been working at the wind turbine for a decade. He's only seen about three bird deaths.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah, that's very low.

[PFT Commenter]

How about that?

[Big Cat]

That's a million. A million birds are killed each day by a cat.

[PFT Commenter]

And the turbines take 100 gallons of oil. And they can be to. To keep it going, moving to like grease the wheels and stuff. And that could be in there for years.

[Memes]

Three bird deaths.

[PFT Commenter]

Can't be true. That's what he said, Hank. I think I've had more Birds fly into my window in my apartment.

[Big Cat]

What kind of. What kind of apartment do you have?

[PFT Commenter]

I live in like he works on a wind turbine with 400 of them. And he said, I have seen maybe three bird deaths near the towers.

[Big Cat]

Hank, I have a question for you. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Pft.

[Big Cat]

Also, what do you. How do you feel about electricity?

[PFT Commenter]

It's cool.

[Big Cat]

Pro. Okay. Well, it's interesting because also, power lines kill 64 million birds a year.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn.

[Big Cat]

And they're everywhere.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a lot. And that's only 140,000 on wind turbines.

[Big Cat]

It's only 140,000.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's on the low end.

[Big Cat]

It's 316 million.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

From Cats. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

You're forgetting feral cats. They kill all of them.

[Big Cat]

That seems erroneous.

[PFT Commenter]

I googled it and I read it off Google also. You guys think about this awl just brought to my. Ethan wanted to say real quick. You, Clay, I don't know what that's about. SATA would do it.

[Big Cat]

Lighthouses can kill birds.

[Memes]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Especially during migration when birds are drawn to the light and collide with the star.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't see a stat. They can kill birds. Anything can kill birds. You can kill birds. That brought. That brought this to mind. Do lighthouse Gilberts.

[Big Cat]

They can kill birds. What I'm hearing is that Carson Wentz is responsible for more bird deaths a year than windmills.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It's difficult. This AI overview. I'm just going to read off this. It is difficult to give an exact number for lighthouse specific deaths, but estimates suggest up to a billion birds a year die from collisions with artificial light, with lighthouses and communication towers being a significant factor.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a lot of bird deaths.

[Big Cat]

So are you anti lighthouse? Nope.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you anti bird? Where do you land on wind turbines? I actually, I'll say this. Here's what I'll say. Hard to do research about anything because I'm one, stupid. Two, I don't trust AI and my conclusion on wind turbines are feral cats are a problem. That's my. That's. That's the conclusion I came up with. I.

[Big Cat]

It was either last summer, the summer before was on a boat off of Block island and the captain was telling me about how a wind turbine broke and the pieces of the wind turbine were just completely destroying the ecosystem of the ocean. And basically it did for the whole summer.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd like it on the record.

[Big Cat]

And so that is my entire basis of being anti winter.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So maybe on land ones.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I really don't have a problem.

[Big Cat]

I don't have a. Any anecdote to go against the ones that are on land. Fine.

[PFT Commenter]

Get them out of the ocean. I will right now say why they like to be. I like my wind turbines not broken. Yeah, probably the guy that sent you those stats again. Did you hear my. My conclusion to the wind turbine debate? Feral cats are a problem.

[Big Cat]

Just as a word warning, there's been like, one guy in the history of the world that is as anti windmill as Hank is, and that's Don Quixote, and he, like, got AIDS and died. Who is that? The man of la mantra. Political Don Quixote. So the tequila guy. Yes, he. That's a tequila, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Why didn't he like winter?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. He just didn't. He. It was like something going. Probably all the tequila that he drank. That's. It drove me crazy. And then he went on this quest against windmills. And then I think it was like, I'm probably hepatitis or something. He died, had a bad fever, and could not finish his quest against the windmills. It's very sad, but good tequila.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah, I don't. I mean, again, like, I'll.

[Big Cat]

I'll stick. I'll stay in a business on one. Getting wind turbines out of the ocean.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't really care one way or.

[Big Cat]

The other about the ones on land. I think that's fair.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know what? I think you're just anti that. That one wind turbine. Yeah. I'll tell you something.

[PFT Commenter]

What about feral cats?

[Big Cat]

That's. You need fair.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, that's just society.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

The world doesn't care about the birds.

[Big Cat]

I think. I think Hank might be like a little bit of a Internet gangster, like, keyboard warrior, because he and I went out yesterday, played a little golf. There was a wind turbine right there. He didn't say to it in person, oh, yeah, you.

[PFT Commenter]

You pussied out.

[Big Cat]

It was right there.

[PFT Commenter]

You weren't that close.

[Big Cat]

It was in the distance. They're so big that it looks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What you got to say about that?

[PFT Commenter]

You got a little scared, buddy. It wasn't that close. It wasn't with the distance.

[Big Cat]

I would have tried to hit it with a golf ball. Yeah, I know. It was. It was staring you down.

[PFT Commenter]

I just. That one video where the guy got the soccer ball in the wind turbine, that was cool.

[Big Cat]

That video is cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that was really cool.

[Big Cat]

I like driving on the road when they. They transport the wind turbines, like, the pieces of them. It's crazy how big they are.

[PFT Commenter]

So we pretty much learned Nothing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the. The cat thing is a really.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a big. That's a big issue.

[Big Cat]

It's a really.

[PFT Commenter]

It's on my radar now. Illinois has more wind turbines in Indiana, I found out. Oh, so this all started from you trying to own someone and then you got owned. No, but Indiana just has nothing. Oh, they don't. They're not even good enough to have winter. They got the Hoosiers. That's good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Indiana's got stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

They have a lot.

[Big Cat]

Has got a lot of stuff. I feel like Illinois and Chicago are different.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I mean, like, if you go south. Yeah. It's like farmland.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

It's just.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

It's completely different.

[PFT Commenter]

I've. I've only seen this part of Illinois, so.

[Big Cat]

Have you.

[PFT Commenter]

No. He drove. Well, he drove to. That's not really. But it's all, like, all of your driving is in other states. Whenever you travel anywhere from where we are.

[Big Cat]

What's really cool is driving out, like, if you're in the farmland area of like Illinois and Iowa at night time and you just see the blinking red lights from all the windmills that are off in the distance, it's kind of cool.

[PFT Commenter]

And they're very cool. Yeah. And they're just very welcoming. And no birds fly into them.

[Big Cat]

No bird. Because they've got blinking lights on them like, oh, that. That light's red. That means danger.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, next game. Good job. Jetson and Browns. Next game. The Patriots and the Bucks. The game of the week. Oh, yeah. Barcelona. Game of the week on DraftKings sportsbook. How we feel. And boys, the Bucks right now are sitting at two and a half point favorites. The over under is 48 and a half.

[Big Cat]

This will obviously be in the Hunger Dog.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, Zach, Hank, feeling good about the game, by the way. We should say real quick. Zach is a little nervous right now because Spotify has updated their app and you can now see how many people listen to each episode. This has been for a little while. Yeah. But shout out the awls. It's pretty insane. We have like 500,000 plus people on. Listen to every show just on Spotify. That doesn't include Apple, YouTube, all the other apps. So Zach seeing the numbers and being like us explaining to him that it's like a million people listen to every episode has him a little rattled right now. Shout out to Awl's great group of guys and women and everybody who listens.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So that. That was just heard by a million people. You guys rule. We might have lost that.

[Big Cat]

Zach, if you. If you were to talk to. What's the capacity of Raymond James stadium? Do you know? 75, 000.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So let's just think like if you took. We'll say 25 Raymond James Stadiums filled to capacity and they're getting ready for kickoff and they want to hear some words of motivation or. Or Zach's keys to the game. All those people right now are. Are in front of you. You have one mic and they're all looking at you right now. What do you say those people?

[Memes]

Let's play ball.

[Big Cat]

That's good. That's good. I think he nailed that.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach's not happy with the way that.

[Big Cat]

Hank talked about the boat or the ship. Oh yeah, the pirate ship. Not unhappy. It would just. It just.

[PFT Commenter]

You didn't have to come for the pirate ship like that.

[Big Cat]

It's a. It's a fun thing for the fans. I like the pirate ship. I don't think you like that take. I don't think I just said the shape of the stadium was bizarre. It is game time. It's weird.

[PFT Commenter]

Stand on business. Hank. What do you did this wind turbine fuck you up. Go after Zach.

[Big Cat]

I like the fucking boat. Pro ocean aquatics, everything involved. So I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna sit here and besmirch a boat and then prop up a lighthouse. That would be. Make no sense.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I don't know what to make of this game because Drake May has been incredible against the blitz so far this season. He is number one in its success rate. 64% against the blitz. And Todd Bowles loves to blitz.

[Big Cat]

He does.

[PFT Commenter]

So what's gonna happen? I don't know. Bucks off by. This is a big game.

[Big Cat]

This is a. Are you for real game for the Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because you obviously the Bills game was a huge one. But then you guys have not played the. The best. You've taken care of business. That was the passing of the torch game.

[Big Cat]

This is.

[PFT Commenter]

This is not a. It's not a must win.

[Big Cat]

It is a must compete.

[PFT Commenter]

It is like I.

[Big Cat]

If we lose I'm not gonna be like if we lose it's a close game. I think that might be a good thing long term.

[PFT Commenter]

Like this is could be a start of the championship DVD game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, I'm just saying like I'm not going to be like doom and gloom if we lose this game. Depending how we lose. If we lose by call it 10 plus then yeah, that's. That's a. That's going to have to be a big reset expectations like what's going on I don't think we're going to win out. Like, I think that would be unrealistic to say we're going to lose at some point. It might be this week. I still think we're going to win, but I. It's a must. Compete. Would be a little doom and gloom, though, if you lost, the Bills won, and then now you're looking at the division standings, you're looking at the playoff picks. We have a better schedule. Okay. So not doom and gloom.

[PFT Commenter]

No. Bills have a little bit. Bills have the easiest schedule remaining.

[Big Cat]

Maybe a little bit of gloom. I thought we had the easiest schedule before and after.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm pretty sure. Look up the easiest schedule remaining. The Bills have a very easy schedule remaining as well. That they. I. The Chiefs was the reason why the bill scheduled remaining was. Was not the easiest. But I think now that they've gotten past the Chiefs, I think it's pretty damn easy. Keep scrolling, keep scrolling, keep scrolling. Oh, no, I was wrong. All right, so it is. It's still the. The Patriots. The Bills do have an easy schedule.

[Memes]

They have the.

[PFT Commenter]

What is it? Scroll down. We have 32nd.

[Big Cat]

They have 28.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. So, yeah, it's going to be. Oh, yeah. They still have to play the Eagles. Bill, still.

[Big Cat]

I miss Bucky Irving. I missed the days when Bucky Irving was playing on Sundays. I think he is. He's back. He was. I was looking on DraftKings as we were doing this game, and he's listed as a touchdown scorer because that could be huge for the Bucks.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach.

[Big Cat]

Yes, sir?

[PFT Commenter]

Will you be sitting in the cave with us? I. I can sit and watch wherever you like me to sit and watch. Okay. Yep. Maybe. Hank, in the middle of you and Che, are you ready for chef? Oh, you love Jay.

[Big Cat]

I just. Jay does nothing for me. Like, he's. He couldn't get me mad if he tried. And he's not scary whatsoever.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's a good group of guys to watch game with the same.

[Big Cat]

I mean, I. I don't even. Steven's a little. Can be annoying.

[PFT Commenter]

Jack is just a delight.

[Big Cat]

Zach. Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he is delight.

[Big Cat]

That was up. Yeah, that was pretty messed up. That was up. You just called. You said Jack.

[PFT Commenter]

They sound so similar. I mean, you called them Jack by accident.

[Big Cat]

Sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Sorry. Only a million people called him. Heard him to call you Jack.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't care. That has never. Fine. That bothered me.

[PFT Commenter]

I would have not been on the.

[Big Cat]

Show 10 years ago.

[PFT Commenter]

No, but it's. It's intense. It's got it in his Head.

[Big Cat]

No, it's gonna be a game.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm looking forward to it. See, these are the takes we get. Now give us your spiciest take about this game.

[Big Cat]

Hottest take, I guess. Hottest take about this game would be.

[PFT Commenter]

This could be. I mean, it's a game.

[Big Cat]

We're going into this game.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone's thinking the bucks, maybe not.

[Big Cat]

I'm not gonna say should win, but.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, probably may win.

[Big Cat]

May win. Definitely a May win. It's a May win. Drake May's wins might be a little inflated due to their easy schedule this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Whoa. Who you play? Zach. Whoa.

[Memes]

So we'll see.

[PFT Commenter]

Get his ass.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's a great point by Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

That was. That was a spicy take. I'm gonna be pissed at you for that.

[Big Cat]

All the years of the show, we've never thought to call it a May win.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay. Saints at Panthers. Panthers minus five and a half over. Under is 39 a half. Hank, have you seen any other hungry dogs we've hit on or. No, no. I'll let you know. Okay. I'm interested because this might be the week that I opt in the Panthers.

[Big Cat]

Panthers are favorites.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

The first time all season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy that they have the record that they have right now and they have yet to be favored in a.

[PFT Commenter]

Single game since 2020. The Carolina Panthers are 3 and 13 against the spread as favorites. The three quarterbacks they beat as favorites were Davis Mills, Zach Wilson, and Dwayne Haskins. So not a lot of times they're favorites.

[Big Cat]

Tyler Shucked, he fits in nicely with that group, though, doesn't he?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I did. They had the ball like two times in the second half here last week.

[Big Cat]

I. I kind of feel bad for Chuck because they. They traded Rashid Shahid and then Chris Olavi. He also tweeted out the unhappy face after it all happened. Yeah, but if you got a rookie quarterback that just now got the job and then you trade away the. The deep threat option that he seemed to like, that's. That's a. That's a tough day at work. This is gonna be a tough week of work for Tyler Shock.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he. The Saints had the ball for 16 minutes last Sunday. That's insane. They just didn't have the ball. I feel like we're going to maybe get a lot of Taysom Hill in this game. You should about that.

[Big Cat]

We should think about that, like, outside of.

[PFT Commenter]

Work them along.

[Big Cat]

Taysom Hill, Olave Kamara. I don't really know who else.

[PFT Commenter]

The Saints have Juan Johnson.

[Big Cat]

Do they have him.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that the. Their tight end?

[Big Cat]

I think they've got the guy from Denver. Vale.

[PFT Commenter]

I like the Saints tight end because he's one of those guys who. Yeah, Juwan Johnson. He's one of those guys who will score three touchdowns in one game a year, and everyone will look at his stats on fantasy and be like, should I pick him up? He scored a lot of points. Then you realize he did it all in one game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What are his stats this year? What did you want? Johnson, Stats this year. Look him up for me, Max. He. He does. He does feel like that type of guy where he'll just go off. And this might also be like, last year he did this. Or two years ago he did this. He has two touchdowns this year. He's not a. I like him, though, because he sometimes scores touchdowns and I get pumped and I'm like, ooh, should I pick him up?

[Big Cat]

400 yards receiving. Oh, Brandon Cooks. He's on the Saints.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Brandon Cooks.

[Big Cat]

That's cool. And. Yeah, Devon Vellit. I guess Valley's. They're like, number. He's a starting receiver this weekend. Good for him. Good luck.

[PFT Commenter]

Point of clarification, Juwan Jensen Johnson, I don't think has ever scored three touchdowns in a game. He did in 2022. Had two games where he scored two touchdowns. That was huge. Yeah. So I just made this up in my head, but that's okay. Sometimes you got to just make shit up in your head.

[Big Cat]

It's okay. He's got one of those names, but.

[PFT Commenter]

Two touchdowns, basically three touchdowns for a guy like him.

[Big Cat]

That's true with Chuck. You get rid of your deep threat option, then you also trade away an offensive lineman. That feels like it. It feels like they're not really.

[PFT Commenter]

Feels mean.

[Big Cat]

They're not really setting them up to win.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, this is. This is a big. I mean, the Panthers at 6 and 4. Yeah, it could be the Panthers at 6 and 4. Do we trust to bet on them?

[Big Cat]

I think that I do. Meow Mix came back, but then, no, they didn't. Well, they. They said that they were going to come back. And then on. On our show and many other shows, they said, you can't do this. You can't come back. Meow Mix, we're riding hot right now. And then a bunch of former Panthers weighed in. Like, Jonathan Stewart was like, you can't do the podcast now, guys. You got to sit this one out for the good of the team. So they issued a statement saying, we're.

[PFT Commenter]

We're.

[Big Cat]

We're listening to you guys. We can't come back right now. Thank you for your support.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So they're men of the people at Meow Mix.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, big time. Okay, next up, Jaguars, Texans, Davis Mills. Time we had Davis Mills going up against Trevor Lawrence. Texans are plus one. Half over. Under is 37 and a half. Did you guys see James Gladstone, the whiz kid GM of the Jaguars, take, I would say, maybe a subtle shot? Brian Thomas, when talking about Jacoby Myers, he said, jacoby Myers superpower is not dropping the football.

[Big Cat]

That's. It says a lot that that could be interpreted as a shot at your number one wide receiver.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he said the full quote is, you think about where we're at in terms of volume of drops. What is, what, what's his superpower? It's not dropping the football. Right. So you just take it from the surface level. It seems fitting. So, yeah, he basically saying, Brian Thomas just drops it so much. We need someone who wouldn't drop it. Also, Jacoby Myers has the weird wrinkle of playing for the team he just played against. And he said it is weird because it's very weird because I was just talking crazy to some people.

[Big Cat]

I like that. So he was coming and be like, you guys know how it gets up there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, my bad, guys.

[Big Cat]

Nothing personal. Yeah, it's like the, that bell curve thing where it's like the idiots at one end when they, they analyze wide receivers, and they're like, he doesn't drop the pass. And then everybody in the middle is like, this guy has explosive separation at the middle of his nine routes. It's. Or the middle of his six routes. He's incredible between the hash marks. And then at the very end, it's, this wide receiver is good because he doesn't drop the football. Yeah, that's how you, that's how you analyze it when you're an expert or an idiot, which is great. I, I think I like the Jaguars. I cannot trust the Texans.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't trust the Jaguars either.

[Big Cat]

And to me, it doesn't really matter that much if it's C.J. stroud or Davis Mills. I think that their problems run a lot deeper than just who's throwing the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But on defense, they're really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I, I, I think the Jaguars are gonna have a long day on offense, but I do think that this is a, my strategy with the Texans is basically been when they play a team that can get a pass rush, you bet against Texans, the Jaguars can. And when they play a team that can't you bet on the Texans. So I'm gonna take the Jaguars in this game, and I'm gonna hope and pray that they can do enough offensively to win this game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because this could be an ugly one. Last time Davis Mills faced Trevor Lawrence, the Jaguars won 31 3. Not that that matters at all. Right? No, no, I'm not gonna. Whatever. Okay. Afternoon games. Is the Texans one of your hungry dogs? No, it's not getting involved in this game. This might be one of your hungry dogs. This is the Cardinals. Nope. Plus six and a half at the Seahawks. And the over. Under right now is sitting at 45 and a half. The Kyler Murray era is officially over.

[Big Cat]

It was really strange this week because after the game was over, Gannon seemed to indicate that he was not going to bench Kyler Murray for reasons outside of injury. And then they asked him to clarify it again later. Has anything changed? And he said, pretty much, yeah, it kind of has changed. Like he's been. He doesn't want to say that Kyler Murray's benched, but he kind of was forced to say it a little bit this week. And I think anybody that watched knows, because in all the games that Kyler Murray had with Jonathan Gannon as his head coach, he has not really come close to touching what Jacoby Brissette has done in his very limited time running that offense. And so for anyone that's watching, we. We all know that Jacoby Brissette is not a quarterback of the future, but we know it looks a lot better when he's in there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. And the Seahawks are really good. They're really good. They're super bowl contenders. Yeah. What was your favorite Kyler Murray memory?

[Big Cat]

The Hail Mary. Hail Murray.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the Hail Murray. I was gonna say, I think the time that he. The one time he played in the playoffs and I bet on him and they got absolutely killed.

[Big Cat]

I just.

[PFT Commenter]

And then I think he blocked me on Twitter after that.

[Big Cat]

I'm just thinking back to the times. Just used to just scoot around out there. Yeah, right. Just like a little. Little rugrat.

[PFT Commenter]

And you're right. I mean, Jacoby Brissette has just looked better. He looks like he runs the offense better.

[Big Cat]

I have a fun stat for you. Big cat.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did you know that Jacoby Brissette has the all time lowest career interception percentage?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

1.33%.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn. Now, is that a situation where he should be throwing more?

[Big Cat]

Maybe interceptions?

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe.

[Big Cat]

But he's also. I think he's also the best quarterback at quarterback sneaks in the Non Jalen hurts category in the history of the NFL.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. So I. I just like the Cardinals in this game. And it's purely because I think the Cardinals are a little underrated the way they've lost a lot of their games. Jacob, your set's been playing better than Kyler Murray and the Seahawks. This is kind of the peak of like they just went on a prime time game and played perfect football against Commanders.

[Big Cat]

It was perfect football.

[PFT Commenter]

So everyone's got that in their brain. Mike McDonald also is awesome on the road, not as awesome at home. I think the Seahawks are a really good team. I'm buying their stock. Overall, I'm just taking the six and a half.

[Big Cat]

Did you know that the Seahawks, they have the best against the spread record in the NFL and they average 8.6 above the spread. Oh, they're beating Vegas. They're like they're crushing Vegas.

[PFT Commenter]

It probably helped a lot.

[Big Cat]

That game did help a lot on Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

They win by 28.

[Big Cat]

That game helped. But they are. Yeah, they're almost two scores above Vegas.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn. Good for the Seahawks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

At least Kyler Murray gets call of duty time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's a nice time for him. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think there's a chance he could maybe go play baseball? How cool would that be? Yeah, he's got so how much money.

[Big Cat]

He's got some baseball in him. I can see some, like, remember that.

[PFT Commenter]

When that was a real debate.

[Big Cat]

Anthony Rendone tendencies.

[PFT Commenter]

He made the right choice. I'll say that. Even if his. Even if he never is a good starting quarterback in the NFL and never gets like another bonafide shot, he made the correct choice because he's made $170 million.

[Big Cat]

Great choice.

[PFT Commenter]

You have to be a really good baseball player to make that great decision.

[Big Cat]

But again, I don't think I'm done with Kyler Murray. The next stop, get him in a good spot. I think he could have a little second career.

[PFT Commenter]

I am. I am very done. I'm happy that I'm done with Kyler Murray in Arizona because I was so sick of that.

[Big Cat]

It's just not. It's not a good vibe.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just never. It's not. It hasn't been a good vibe for a long time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's good for it to be. Would you take him on the jets for free? For free to.

[Big Cat]

Not.

[PFT Commenter]

Nothing in life is free. I think he's got one of the worst contracts in the league. He's got three years remaining. They cut him after the. The second year. So he's got two more years of getting, like, $50 million.

[Big Cat]

He should. He should get fat.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Out of protest. He would look hilarious if he got fat.

[PFT Commenter]

So next year, he's making 53 million. The year after, he's making 43 million potential out in 20, 28. What about baseball? Would you take him on the Mets?

[Big Cat]

What position?

[PFT Commenter]

Whatever you want. Sure. Like, what if he quit right now? And that's what I'm saying. Go to spring training. Yeah. It'd be awesome. It'd be cool. He's young enough.

[Big Cat]

He's young enough that he definitely could still do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Imagine if he just became a good baseball player. He's older than I thought. He just turned 28. Yeah. No, there's late bloomers. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He could do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, another. We got two more afternoon games. Rams at Niners. This is gonna be a good game. Oh, here we go. Niners plus four and a half over. Under 49 and a half. I know you're gonna say, yeah. So the last 14 times these teams have played, the underdog has covered 13 of them. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And Kyle Shanahan, he owns McVeigh, except for that. Except for the one NFC championship.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But outside of that, he's been dominant.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I. I think Purdy's getting reevaluated. I don't know if Purdy's going to play again this year. I don't know how bad that foot is.

[PFT Commenter]

It's so weird. I don't get it. I don't get it. We also get the thicker kicker there for the. For the Rams. They signed the Harrison Mevis guy from Missouri.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Six. Six feet tall, 242 pounds.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

It's gonna be so sick. We need more of those.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Puka. Baby bump.

[Big Cat]

I think he got the baby bump.

[PFT Commenter]

It already happened. Yeah. What was that face?

[Big Cat]

Baby. Baby. Baby drama bump.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, is there. He broke up with her.

[Big Cat]

Isn't there baby drama?

[PFT Commenter]

Is he. Did he break up with her?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Memes]

I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that was TikTok rumor. And then. Yeah. Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

Congratulations to Pookie.

[PFT Commenter]

Congratulations, Jerry.

[Big Cat]

Jerry's in my head.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Jerry has been just spreading that for some reason. I don't know why.

[Big Cat]

He told me today that Italians were done in this country over Italians. Done done. No, because a lot of them are attracted to Latinos.

[PFT Commenter]

That's Jerry.

[Big Cat]

And so then they have kids with Latinas, and then there's no more Italians.

[PFT Commenter]

So Jerry just looked at his own kids and was like, man, Italians Are done.

[Big Cat]

No Italians are done.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's done. Too much cross breeding for Italians, I guess.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. This is. I'm just reporting what I heard from Jerry, that Italians.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, he has a samp. Size of two in his house.

[Big Cat]

That is true. Of his. Of his children.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Are not.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. At that rate, we're not gonna have Italians in, like, three years max.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you. Do you agree? The Italians, based on Jerry's research, they are done.

[Big Cat]

Not Jerry o'. Connell. Jersey Jerry.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Who? Jerry. Jersey Jerry.

[Big Cat]

Jose.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry has. He's Italian. Yeah, I know, but he says Italians are done. His girlfriend is Colombian, and he has two children with her, and that is now made non Italian babies. They're still Italian. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, but. But all of them, according to Jerry, are. They're more attracted to Latino women. Yeah. And so then they have kids, and then eventually there's no more Italians. Do I have permission to leave for one second?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, of course. I don't know what's going on. There's Jerry. Jerry's wrong. Well, no, he's right. In his house, he is. He is attracted to Latino women. Correct? Yeah, but he's Italian.

[Big Cat]

But he's.

[PFT Commenter]

He. He doesn't get to speak on all Italians. Anecdotally speaking, he's right. Wrong.

[Big Cat]

You know, he's 100. Right for his.

[PFT Commenter]

What he knows as an Italian, he's attracted to Latinas, and then he procreated with a Latina. He is right for himself. My fiance, also not Italian. Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

Here we go. Max.

[PFT Commenter]

My wife's Italian. I'm not.

[Big Cat]

There we go.

[PFT Commenter]

There it is. So it keeps happening. No, that's what you're saying. It keeps happening.

[Big Cat]

I'm 1% Italian, and I got to say, my brother's married to an Italian. I'm probably. I'm probably at least 2% attracted to Latinas, so. Yeah, the math checks out.

[PFT Commenter]

So your. Your brother's got to have, like, a thousand kids.

[Big Cat]

Big Dom.

[PFT Commenter]

Big Tom. Big Dom.

[Big Cat]

Shout out. Shout out.

[PFT Commenter]

Baby Dom.

[Big Cat]

Shout out.

[PFT Commenter]

Baby Dom. Okay, I like the Niners in this game.

[Big Cat]

I do, too.

[PFT Commenter]

We finally got a hungry dog, and then Hank left.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, I do, too. I. I like the Niners a lot. Not. I wouldn't care who the favorite was. I think I would just. I would take the Niners.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's a game where you just take the underdog. That's exactly right. Yeah. This was. This was Hank's big moment with this hungry dog.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, yeah, he did ask for permission. Yeah, he did.

[PFT Commenter]

What has he got, he's got a pee.

[Big Cat]

I think maybe oil lobby's hitting him up.

[PFT Commenter]

He's so scared of the windmills. Yeah. Okay. PFT. Your game commanders are currently seven and a half point underdogs. Over under is 49 and a half. How you feeling?

[Big Cat]

I, Terrible. Because the Lions, they, they lost last week and their backs are against the wall. We're a bad team that lost last week, so that doesn't really affect us as much in my opinion. Not only did we lose, we obviously lost Jaden MARSHawn Lattimore towards ACL, which is say, like he stunk.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But you could have maybe traded him.

[Big Cat]

He stunk, but he was probably our best cornerback.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's not good.

[Big Cat]

It's not good. That's not a good place to be. And I mean, Amos is, I think he's good for a rookie. I like Mikey, but I, I don't know how we're going to defend against the Detroit Lions. I really don't. I think that Dan Campbell is going to have his team just like salivating, ready to destroy us. I think we're going to get destroyed. I don't, I think this is going to. I, Big cat, listen, I, I've seen this movie so many times before.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Okay. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I, I, I'm not going to bet on this game. But the Lions, what are they? Nine and a half?

[PFT Commenter]

Seven and a half. I, I think this is going to be one of those weird weeks. That's all I'll say. Watch out. Feels like these are the weeks where, you know we're going to have one. Maybe it's, maybe it's stupid to try to time it, but there is definitely a week in the, like, next couple of weeks coming up where everyone's going to lose everything.

[Big Cat]

Here's what I will say. I think that there's probably, if you want to bet on the props, I could talk about some of the props in this game because I think that Vegas doesn't think that Marcus Mariota is capable of throwing a forward pass. And he is, he is. And he can throw some touchdowns so you can find some value for the commanders in terms of touchdown scores. But I would not, I would not ever dream about betting on the commanders in this spot. Like, I want to, I want to go out on the street and warn people like, are you or a loved one considering betting on the Washington Commanders this weekend? Because we suck dick. And we got, obviously Luke is out, Terry's still out. So we got Debo, we got Marcus, we got Bill and we don't really play defense at all. But we did make a big move today. Joe Whitt, our defense coordinator, he's moving down to the sideline.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

So, yeah. Instead of getting fired, he just is going to take it. Maybe it was just an optical illusion from where he was sitting. The defense wasn't bad. Now that he's going to be on the sidelines, it might look better up close. It'd be nice if you were to change up the defense a little bit, but I don't think he wants to do that. The other story this week was Dan Quinn taking full responsibility for leaving Jaden in the game, which I agree. Yes, Dan, that. That was your responsibility. It was good to hear him say that he was responsible for it. And I think that the team's still going to play hard for Dan Quinn because they like him. But that was. That was the stupidest mistake that you can make if you have a player like Jaden Daniels. And he made it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, really dumb.

[Big Cat]

But his credit, he was like, yeah, I. That was a stupid fucking mistake that I made.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And you can judge me on it.

[PFT Commenter]

So at least he owned up to it.

[Big Cat]

I will. I don't know. What do you think?

[PFT Commenter]

I. I don't know. I think there. I think we are underrating Marcus Mariota. I agree with you on that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the Lions might have some issues that are like, they're. They're a good team, but they're. They might have a few issues. I don't know. The thing that scares me the most and I probably will, like this is my lean as the commanders. I probably won't actually bet on this game. And actually when I say that right now, I definitely will bet on this game because it's one of three afternoon games. So I take all that back. I will definitely bet on this game. The thing that makes me nervous is Dan Campbell off a loss.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I agree. I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a staff. Are you ready for this? Teams after losing as a favorite of seven points or more are 81, 57 and three against the spread. 58.7% including 22 and 13 against spread over the last three seasons.

[Big Cat]

That's a high strike rate.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. And that would be. The Lions fall under that category. And I think there's one other. I'm forgetting who losses double. Who lost his over 7 point favorite outright last year week.

[Big Cat]

So they. They're probably no.

[PFT Commenter]

No culture three point favorite. But they'd have to be a good.

[Big Cat]

A good team. They'd have to be good team.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. The packers just staring. Listen, I stab Packer Dan. No, we're just Bears fans everywhere. Just so you know. We got Packer Dan this week. I'm saying I already bet the Eagles, so you. I know, but you can. You're saying that. I'm saying stats in your head. I'm saying you're rooting for the Pack. No, I'm not. Taiwan. No. If the packers lose, the Bears win. The. The Bears will be in first place. Apparently it doesn't matter when you're fighting for seating. Well, no. If we were playing the packers next week, it would maybe be different.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So this is insane.

[Big Cat]

It's okay to be wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's okay that you guys are wrong.

[Big Cat]

Max's problem is that he just can't admit being wrong. And that's all right.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a stat. This has no feelings. Stats are just no feelings. There's no feelings in a stat.

[Big Cat]

You're getting mad at numbers, bro.

[PFT Commenter]

You're getting mad at numbers. No, I, I, Jared Goff and Dan Campbell are, are 21 and 8 against the spread off a straight up loss.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They're going to kick our ass. It's going to be an ass kicking and nothing good is going to happen. I, I think that the one way that we could be competitive in this game is if we somehow figure out a way to generate pressure up the middle. And so when Jared's doing his play action, have a guy right in Jared's face when he turns around. But if there's not a guy already in his face as he turns around from the play action, he's going to throw for 450 yards against us.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe the, maybe the field's wet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we could, yeah, we could lube.

[PFT Commenter]

It up real nice rain at all.

[Big Cat]

Anything outside that I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's not gonna be fun.

[Big Cat]

This, this is one of those weekends and, and fan bases deal with this on a week to week basis. Like, there are some weeks that you know that you're about to get your teeth kicked in. And on Sunday morning you got to wake up, you gotta, you gotta put on your jersey. You got to put on your, your matching, like, pants and your hat and announce to the world that I am a commander's fan on the way to my own funeral. And you just got to sit there and get your teeth kicked in and be like, well, we suck.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then that's ready for it. That's for a lot of people watching the NFL.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Big Cat]

That's every week for them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And that's just. I. It's my turn. Well, it's my. Watch the clock if we're going to.

[PFT Commenter]

Spin it one good way. The Lions, if they do demolish the Commanders like you expect it to happen, that's good for whoever plays the Lions next week.

[Big Cat]

Oh, who are they playing next week?

[PFT Commenter]

Who are the Lions playing next week? Because then the Lions would be off a really big win.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Shut up.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. They're playing the Eagles. Oh, are they? Yes.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Max, you got to root for the commanders this weekend, buddy.

[PFT Commenter]

This is one of the dumbest debates we've ever had that I just get so much joy out of it.

[Big Cat]

It was like a throwaway comment that I made. I was just like, man, you probably wish that they had won that game.

[PFT Commenter]

We're on episode three of this. I love it so much. Back to. The Lions are playing the Eagles next week.

[Big Cat]

I've also been asking everybody that I see in my life what they think about this hypothetical scenario, but you never bring up the.

[PFT Commenter]

That it put the Eagles at top of the nfc. Yes. Dude, when are you going to figure out that we. We manipulate the argument to. To win it? Like, how. How long is it going to take for you to figure that out? I don't care. I know what.

[Big Cat]

What you do.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't help myself. You know, I can't help myself. And it's going to be. I always leave out. I always leave out the division.

[Big Cat]

The.

[PFT Commenter]

The conference standards. Never brought up the conference. This is the one Monday night game that we're streaming all year just so that we can talk about this for an entire. For an entire game. I'm gonna drop a bomb on the Eagles because I want. Max, I want. I want the birds to just fly. And I don't want. Listen. I don't want to be right. I don't want to be right.

[Big Cat]

I'll do you one better, Max. You should kind of be rooting for the Eagles to lose this weekend so.

[PFT Commenter]

You can beat the Lions.

[Big Cat]

That's because if you look at the best rosters, I think that the Lions. Listen, hear me out, Max. The Lions are probably going to be. In my opinion right now, it's still early. The Lions, I think, are more of a threat to go to the super bowl than the packers are. I know they played week one, but that was. But that was actually what. What happened after the Lions lost to the Packers Week one, Max. I don't care. They. They got good again. They got Good.

[PFT Commenter]

Good.

[Big Cat]

Again. It's true.

[PFT Commenter]

So just something to think about. Something about. Something to think about. The packers win against the Eagles. They'll be 6, 2 and 1. If the Lions beat the Commanders will be 6 and 3. Then you got to worry. Then you got to beat the Eagle. The Eagles got to beat the Lions. Otherwise they would.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you should be thinking about losing.

[PFT Commenter]

The packers just to get yourself ready for the lines.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

On a short week.

[PFT Commenter]

This is the hardest schedule ever. When I was looking. When I was looking at it, I saw the Lions for playing the Eagles next week, I was like, well, I got to throw this in my notes.

[Big Cat]

Max, do you hope that the Commanders beat the Lions? What would. What would your thought be going to play against the Lions next week if the Commanders somehow beat them?

[PFT Commenter]

I would like the Commanders to beat the Lions.

[Big Cat]

Look at you. Look at you, Commie Max.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I would like the Commanders to beat the Lions.

[Big Cat]

Rooting for the commies. All of the teams in the top of the NFC to lose, to be sick. If we beat the Lions and went on a winning streak to end the season and then we. We overtook the Eagles, are you going.

[PFT Commenter]

To start rooting against the Bears? Oh, because, Max, they beat the Giants. Bears aren't. Oh, shit.

[Big Cat]

Bears aren't on the radar.

[PFT Commenter]

If they beat the giants, it'd be 6 and 3.

[Big Cat]

The Bears aren't even in the playoffs right now.

[PFT Commenter]

I understand that. I don't think they're a good team yet. I'm just saying, if they're six and three.

[Big Cat]

I had a fancy question for you guys. Jerry o'. Connell.

[PFT Commenter]

He.

[Big Cat]

He's been calling me. He was upset that he did not know that Jaden Daniels injured his elbow when he started pounding his chest and being like, look what a great job I am as a fantasy owner. I started Brock Bowers. You remember that, Jerry? In the preseason, he said that Jaden was going to break every quarterback record of all time. Jerry asked for permission to release Jaden Daniels from our team today. First of all, Jerry, he never asks us for permission for anything.

[PFT Commenter]

That was. That was nice. That was respectful.

[Big Cat]

I would like to see Jerry keep Jaden Daniels on the team. On the bench.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That way Jaden can get a ring if we win that league.

[PFT Commenter]

Does he have an IR spot?

[Big Cat]

He's got IR spots.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So then do it.

[Big Cat]

Put Jerry. I want Jaden on that team so that he can be a champion at the end of the season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. IR spot.

[PFT Commenter]

Put him on there.

[Big Cat]

This. This is an order coming from the top.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Last game, Steelers, chargers, chargers are three point favorites. Over. Under is 45 and a half. I think since. I think I saw A stat since 2008, these teams have just flipped, flopped wins and losses when they play.

[Big Cat]

That sounds right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

And I think the Steelers won the last one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And there's also going to be a lot of Steelers fans there.

[Big Cat]

I would say so.

[PFT Commenter]

And also this is the first time Justin Herbert and Aaron Rodgers are playing against each other.

[Big Cat]

And also Joe Alt is out.

[PFT Commenter]

And Joe Alt is out.

[Big Cat]

And that Pittsburgh defense looked pretty good last week. The pass rush was there. Jalen Ramsey at safety.

[PFT Commenter]

So the big thing though is Pittsburgh, the Steelers. Mike Tomlin does like to play in his own. And Justin Herbert shred zones. But maybe Mike Tomlin's changing. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I don't think.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably.

[Big Cat]

If I had to bet on whether or not Mike Tomlin was evolving and changing.

[PFT Commenter]

Changing it all.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It doesn't matter what it is. It's like the kind of toothpaste that he uses, how he likes his steak cooked, what kind of defense he runs.

[PFT Commenter]

Nah.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Hungry dog. No.

[Big Cat]

The last, last leg of the hungry dog is the Eagles.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, huge, huge.

[Big Cat]

Eagles, 49ers Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

So a two day hungry dog. Yep.

[Memes]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I like. I'm gonna take. I gotta. I gotta ride with the dog. Let's go.

[Big Cat]

Hungry dog weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

Hungry dog weekend.

[Big Cat]

So wait, you said Steelers, Niners.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, Niners, Eagles, Eagles, Patriots.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Niners, Eagles, Patriots. Yeah, I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Do it. I'm doing it. I'll opt in. Let's go.

[Big Cat]

Do you think that the Eagles are gonna be more motivated because they're underdogs?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think so too.

[PFT Commenter]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Big Cat]

Motivation's a funny thing, which no game.

[PFT Commenter]

Has ever been broken down more from a motivational standpoint in this. Do you think the Lions are rooting for the Eagles to win? Wait, no.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they are.

[PFT Commenter]

No, the Lions are not rooting for the Eagles to win because they. They want. They're in a division race with the packers. So standings obviously matter a lot.

[Big Cat]

No, but they.

[PFT Commenter]

No, that argument didn't even work.

[Big Cat]

No, he's right. Like at the end, you got to.

[PFT Commenter]

Focus on the standing.

[Big Cat]

At the end of the. No, at the end of the season, like where the Lions finish when they compare record to record against the packers that, like, the packers are too good right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They want the packers to lose no matter what.

[PFT Commenter]

No matter what. Yeah. But if it doesn't matter who they're playing, the Next week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but the Eagles play the Lions next week. Right? Right. Yeah, but they need. They need the packers to lose. Yeah. Because they're worried about the division. Right. I don't think you understand the division.

[Big Cat]

Also, Max, what's so hard about. What's so hard about this? So they want the Eagles to be.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's my bad. I'm nothing about.

[Big Cat]

They want the Eagles to beat the packers because they're in a division race with them. Yeah. And also they play the Eagles next week.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

So they're gonna be super happy that the Eagles won because the Eagles won't be motivated to play this alliance.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct. Double win.

[Big Cat]

This is actually like the easiest one of all.

[PFT Commenter]

But if the. But if the packers win, then the Eagles won't be as motivated against the Lions.

[Big Cat]

No, super motivated.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm getting. We submitted them this game.

[Big Cat]

Your game is actually more important to the Lions than it is to either the packers or the Eagles.

[PFT Commenter]

The Lions will be tuning into your game more than they tune into their own game. Right.

[Big Cat]

They got a double header this week. Got it, got it, got it. My brain is needs to be better.

[PFT Commenter]

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[PFT Commenter]

Boys, what are we doing? What do we got? Give us some td. I like George Kittle. Oh, okay. You guys like that? Yeah, that's our. That's our best friend. Love him.

[Big Cat]

I like that a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

Love them. What? A little. What about a little bit lad? What about a little lad action? Like Lad? I think Lad hasn't scored in a while. If I. Maybe he scored less week. I feel like he's been a little.

[Memes]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

He's due is what I'm trying to say.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, little less.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like a little. He's a little shifty in there. He's a little lad.

[Big Cat]

You lose him in the end zone sometimes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Cat]

He blends in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He did not score last week. Okay, Lad. Kiddo. And then Max, build this real quick. Who else?

[Big Cat]

Okay, Lag. Kittle. And then I. I'm looking at me and memes don't say the same guy.

[PFT Commenter]

What did you guys say?

[Big Cat]

Well, I'll let PFT say.

[PFT Commenter]

No. Well, now we have to say it.

[Big Cat]

Well, you have to say it first.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not.

[Big Cat]

I'm not going to say anybody in the Lions Commander's game, although you could find a lot of people that you could. You could choose to score there. But I'm looking at the Cardinal Seahawks, and I'm thinking either JSN or I'm thinking Trey McBride. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you. What were you guys gonna say?

[Big Cat]

We were gonna say Kyron.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I think he's like, even money.

[Big Cat]

Which is, I feel like good value for.

[PFT Commenter]

I like.

[Big Cat]

I like McBride.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we go a couple. Couple tight ends and McBride. That's some. That'll be some juicy odds, Lad. Yup, kiddle. Yep, we got. Is that right? What is 15 to 1? Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Okay, let's listen to Jerry's fantasy minute and then we'll do our picks. By the way, all the Dodgers fans that are just leaving signs saying, let's go Dodgers on his car. Please stop. Don't do that. It's very mean. Please keep doing it. All right, start the music. Let's start the music.

[Memes]

Meetings.

[PFT Commenter]

I got one minute. Okay. Hey, welcome to PC P, boys. We're gonna do something different because Reddit said I was doing this all wrong, so.

[Big Cat]

So we're gonna fix it.

[Memes]

We're gonna start savages people who savages.

[PFT Commenter]

On the Internet especially Colts fans.

[Memes]

Love you, Seth.

[PFT Commenter]

We're gonna sit blind resumes.

[Memes]

We're done with that bit, fellas.

[PFT Commenter]

No more blind resumes. Sit them. We're gonna sit one 800 gambler because Big Cat's never calling them after Trevor.

[Memes]

Lawrence ran in for a touchdown.

[PFT Commenter]

Congrats, Big Cat. We're gonna sit wind turbines because our green energy expert Hank says they're not good. So we're gonna sit them world gonna thank you, Jerry. We're gonna start the people of Indianapolis.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on.

[Memes]

Memes do better.

[PFT Commenter]

Love Indianapolis. We're gonna sit the packs trading at the deadline.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They're receiving corpse hard P are super good. That's did it one minute fantasy stuff. Start all the Giants Slayton Theo Johnson and Davis that running back in the jets because Breece hall isn't going to play Cole 1800 win twisted tea out there. Look at him. Company man was open that that Los.

[Big Cat]

Angeles grocery store that charges like $400 for a strawberry.

[PFT Commenter]

Ralph's. I liked Ralph's. Aran.

[Big Cat]

Aran.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think Jerry's shopping at Arowan.

[PFT Commenter]

I like Ralph. Shout out Ralph's. Very funny name. Good job, Jerry.

[Big Cat]

He's.

[PFT Commenter]

He's. He's streaming.

[Big Cat]

Streaming. He's streaming all these guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's streaming everyone. I also we didn't do any blind resumes. We.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we haven't done blind resumes in over a day. I think we may have done a blind resume on Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

Didn't play last week. So you didn't do a jalen hurts blind resume. That's.

[Big Cat]

I think you did one reason two days ago.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I said only I. We haven't done one in a day. We haven't done one in over in at least one day. That's pretty good.

[Big Cat]

It's been two days.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're. Listen, we can't just go cold turkey on blind resumes.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Let's go. Picks. What are the standings?

[Big Cat]

There's a three way tie for last hour.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Big heads in first. You got a good record. 12, 6.

[PFT Commenter]

I went 20 last week because I doubled up on the Bears game. Big Cat hasn't lost in three weeks. Oh beast. That's guaranteed loss now. Big cat is 12 and 6. I am 10 and 8. Zach is 9 and 9 and then memes.

[Big Cat]

Hank and PFT are all 8 and 10.

[PFT Commenter]

I have one in three weeks. Oh so. So. So bet memes and fade me memes is Tanking. Who's up first? It be Zachary. Zachary. Over a million people listening in the.

[Big Cat]

In the. In the Falcons, Indiana Colts.

[PFT Commenter]

In the Falcons Colts game, I would like to take the Colts minus six and a half.

[Big Cat]

That was good.

[PFT Commenter]

Nailed it.

[Big Cat]

In the Falcons Colts game, I would like to take under 48 and a half points.

[PFT Commenter]

In the Patriots Bucks game, I'd like to take over 48 and a half.

[Big Cat]

Man. All right, then I will take the Lions minus seven and a half, please.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes.

[Big Cat]

I was gonna take that. I was gonna take the Patriots over.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll do Ravens Vikings over 49 and a half. And then I will do the Buffalo Bills. Wait, somebody took that. No, it's my turn. Max's turn. Oh, which one do I get? You got the first one. Okay, cool. The Vikings Ravens over.

[Big Cat]

Cool, cool.

[PFT Commenter]

I would like. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I would like to take the Chargers minus three.

[Big Cat]

What's this voice we're using here?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. Did anyone take Giants Bears over?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

I would take the Giants Bears over.

[Big Cat]

Good pick. I was going to take that. Good pick, Matt.

[Memes]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

Thank you, thank you. I'll double up then Ravens minus three and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way, the Giant spares number is over 46 and a half.

[Big Cat]

I didn't say that.

[PFT Commenter]

On the draftkings.

[Big Cat]

I will take the wonder colts Falcons under 48 and a half. I already took that. That's not London.

[PFT Commenter]

It's in Germany.

[Big Cat]

It's the under. Listening, Berlunder. I will take the.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know, man.

[Big Cat]

Give me something gross. Give me the jets Browns over 37 and a half. I like it.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, did someone take the Niners? No one took the Niners. I think the Niners plus four and a half.

[Big Cat]

Good pick.

[PFT Commenter]

Good pick.

[Big Cat]

Nice pick.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

I think I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna take the Carolina Panthers. Oh, minus five and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Ballsy.

[Big Cat]

Minus five and a half. Keep pounding, keep pounding. Who's beating the drum this weekend?

[PFT Commenter]

Hopefully the.

[Big Cat]

The Yummix.

[PFT Commenter]

No, Mike. The guy who does the raps. Fucking awesome.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Carolina Mike. Carolina Mike's pretty great. I would like to see Meow Mix beat the drum at some point.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be cool. This year.

[Big Cat]

That'd be great. Do the right thing. Panthers.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach. Is he over in the Steelers Charger game still available? I believe it is. Who's playing in that game?

[Big Cat]

It's going to be the Steelers and the Chargers.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Where are they from?

[Memes]

I would like to see Aaron Rodgers.

[PFT Commenter]

Get the end zone.

[Big Cat]

I want to see some it's gonna be good.

[PFT Commenter]

That number is 45.

[Big Cat]

45 and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Where are the teams from? Zach, give us the official pick. Pittsburgh Steelers in the Los Angeles Chargers.

[Big Cat]

I mean, over Zach. I thought that your analysis you just gave that game was awesome.

[Memes]

Thanks.

[PFT Commenter]

Pft.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's very funny.

[PFT Commenter]

Great job. Okay, let's get it to Chris Long and then we'll finish with Fire Festival.

[Big Cat]

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[Memes]

Let's go.

[PFT Commenter]

Farmer's dog dog.

[Big Cat]

Love it. They love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Sorry, that was. That.

[PFT Commenter]

That was her name.

[Big Cat]

That was her name.

[PFT Commenter]

When.

[Big Cat]

At. At pause. At pause. Yeah. And the farmer's dog, they make great food. Blake absolutely loves it. He wakes me up in the morning, he can't wait to have breakfast. I've noticed that earlier and earlier in the evening, he's like coming to me like, hey, it's dinner time. It's dinner time. He wants that farmer's dog dog food. It was developed by board certified nutritionists. The farmer's dog is human grade dog food. It's made with real meat, real veggies. It's gently cooked to preserve nutrients. The turkey. The turkey looks. Every time I look at it, I'm like, I could eat this meal.

[PFT Commenter]

I could.

[Big Cat]

It looks like human food. It's. It's not highly processed like traditional pet food, and it's super Easy to portion it correctly. Just one bag. Some dogs get half a bag. Very, very easy to do and your dog will love it. You can take the guesswork out of those serving sizes and you can keep your dog healthy and thriving. And the best part is it delivers right to your door, automatically sending you new food as soon as you're running low on your current food. You don't have to go to the store. It just shows up. And it shows up on time. And they have 24. 7 customer support with real people because sometimes you have burning question about your dog's food at 2am I actually just recently made the switch over. We're doing just turkey for Blake now and I wanted to update the food delivery. It took me, I think 10 seconds online to change the recipes that Blake was getting a Super easy get 50 off your first box of fresh healthy food@the farmersdog.com big big cat. Plus you get free shipping. Just go to the farmersdog.com bigcat get 50 off. That's the farmersdog.com bigcat and now here is Chris Long.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest, our good friend Chris Long from the green light pod. You can see him every single week. Does an incredible job, breaks down all the games, talking ball, talking just friendship, great time. His Virginia Cavaliers are right now. If the playoffs started, would be in the playoffs. He also, which I haven't even, we haven't even said this to you but you just so you know, a heads up, the book that we're writing for pmt, you are going to have to write a chapter as our first guest ever. It's great to see you. Do you want to start with Virginia? You want to. Is Virginia for real? Are you guys going to the playoffs?

[Memes]

I think we are, dude. Like that's what $20 million will do for a team. I guess if, if we pay the players, you know, we can win too. So yeah, I'm, I'm all in. Although I've been on Stanford Steve's ass to try to get game day. Not that I make a difference, but like, you know, I tried to FaceTime last night because my son was like, why don't we get game day? I said, why don't you ask Uncle Steve?

[PFT Commenter]

I love pick up. That's a great move.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we can start that movement. I'll sign up for that.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys have a big game coming up?

[Memes]

We got Wake Forest this weekend. We have Virginia, we have Duke. We have Virginia Tech though. You know, we barely ever beat them. Yeah, But I think this year we're going to beat them. Yeah, I have a good feeling.

[Big Cat]

It's really the. The autumn of Chris Long. All your former NFL teams are doing well, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If you had to do one. Got to go.

[Memes]

They are, dude.

[Big Cat]

For like the.

[Memes]

Yeah, I guess they are.

[Big Cat]

If you had to pick one that you would eliminate one. Got to go. All of Chris Long's former teams. The Eagles, the Patriots, the Rams. Which one are you. Which one are you putting off to the side?

[Memes]

Is this like a Fuck Mary kill situation?

[Big Cat]

Kind of. But you're fucking two of them and you just have to kill one.

[Memes]

Okay. And I'm killing, like, this year's team based on, like, the. The aspirations this year team. I probably. I hate to say it because I just have so much respect for the Rams, and the Eagles just won a Super Bowl. It's going to be like, I love the Pats. I think they're great. I think even most Pats fans would tell you, you know, love to see a little bit of a bigger sample size, but they have been. Drake May is fantastic. I think Josh is doing a great job, too. And since Gonzalez got back, that defense is tough as well. That's a tough deal you just hit me with.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So I just. I just looked it up. By the way, this is actually insane. Your four teams are 27. That's some really fun football. 27. Your four teams combined.

[Memes]

Yeah. And like, the teams. And you know, like, the teams that I. You know, every year there's, like, teams you hit your wagon to as a. Like an analyst or podcaster. Like, the Bucks are one. This year for me, they've been winning a bunch of close games. I made them. I put them real far in that, you know, when you pick the super bowl or, like, whatever before the season, you're just throwing darts. But I put the Bucks in the super bowl, and I'd love to look smart, you know, if it's not going to be my Birds, then why not the Bucks?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

So they're playing really well, too.

[Big Cat]

I do have an important question for you because we talked about Big Dom and the Eagles and the story of him going to the hospital and. And welcoming Cam. Scatter Boo. Giving him some pizza, some cannolis, being like, don't say nothing. Keep your mouth shut. Cam, I love you. And we got into a debate on this show because Hank was saying that he might have done that performatively. I don't know if you had any experience with Big Dom paying a visit to the hospital if an opponent got injured and went there while you were in Philly, or if a player from the team. But Hank seemed to think that it was. It wasn't like a common thing that he did. He only did it to get his name in the headlines, which I, I disagreed with.

[Memes]

Well, wouldn't he be visiting, like, everybody in the hospital? Wouldn't it be like one of these fucking, like, like, make a wish things if, if, you know, like, Dom would be at the hospital every week if he wanted attention? There's just something about Scatterboo that he likes. And who knows? It could be like a horse's head situation.

[Big Cat]

Right, Right.

[Memes]

Like, you know, maybe it wasn't just delivering calzones. Maybe he got back to his room and there was. There was a horse's head in the bed. He.

[PFT Commenter]

He was like, hey, listen, Cam, if anyone comes and asks you, you fell down the stairs. You didn't get. You didn't get hurt on the job.

[Big Cat]

You know, you look like you're comfortable, but I, I imagine that this wouldn't be a place that you'd like to ever go back to. Yeah, it'd be a real shame if.

[Memes]

You know, you'd hate to come back here, so. It'd be a real shame. And it'd be a shame if Hank were just being a hater.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it would be.

[PFT Commenter]

It would be a shame. Although he's. It's. It's. We need it for the ecosystem hater. Hank is all the way back. I got a question for you about the trade deadline. We had it this week. What is it? What happens in a locker room after the trade deadline? Deadline? Because I, I think we kind of overrated a little bit. And I don't know, maybe if that's wrong, like, from the outside looking in, like, you know, the jets trade sauce, Gardner and Quinn and Williams, everyone's like, well, the jets just stink now. Well, they kind of stunk before. I don't know. I don't think it's going to change much. So is, is there like a drastic change in the locker room when you add a guy or send off a guy?

[Memes]

Well, I've been a part of too many teams that were like, big time buyers or sellers at the deadline. Like when I was in Philly and I started being on, like, good teams, you know, we were trying to make moves. Like, we brought in an 18. We brought in, like, Golden Tate or Jay Ajai the year before. And I might be forgetting a couple moves that Howie made, but, like, I think more than anything, it's just a kind of a declaration, like a public declaration of where the team's going. Not that you needed the nudge in New York. They're like 1 in 7, right? But like when you show up on. On Tuesday or whatever it is, or Wednesday, and you know, the two best players on your defense are gone, like that kind of says something and, you know, as if it weren't like, buckle in and we gotta. We gotta find something to be motivated about to finish this season. Like, you know, the thing I like about and the thing I don't get about the whole jets discourse is like, I heard Kyle Brandt talking about this yesterday and he's ranting and raving about, hey, it doesn't matter. The picks don't matter until they have a good quarterback, it doesn't matter. Did they not draft Sam Darnold?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, right.

[Memes]

It's not just about the quarterback. It's about building the program the right way. And, you know, I'm actually a fan of. For the receiving team, especially the Sauce Gardener trade. I think both teams win in that situation. Although it's not like, kind of common to trade away lockdown corners.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, I know. I love the move for the Colts.

[Memes]

That was their.

[PFT Commenter]

Their secondary was definitely a weakness. And now they got another dude and Lou Annemar. I can't ever say his name.

[Memes]

Sweet Lou.

[PFT Commenter]

Sweet Lou. When he had. He's never had corners.

[Memes]

He's never had corners like this, right?

[PFT Commenter]

And when he has, you know, that Bengals team that went to the super bowl, when he had good players, like, he is a really good defensive coordinator. And I think that was a smart move by the Colts to be like, hey, these opportunities don't come along very often where it looks like our offense is going to be able to compete with anyone. Let's take advantage of this. Let's try to win a Super bowl this year, dude.

[Memes]

The player in me is always like, let's go get it. And as an analyst is hard because I'll be. And Brandon Bean hates this shit because you heard him talking about it. It's like fantasy football. And Madden has ruined the trade deadline where everybody thinks it's going to be like the NBA every year or whatever. But as a player, I always want to go for it. And I do think, like, the Pittsburgh game, they didn't play great. You're not going to turn the ball over six times every game. Like, that's not in the game plan. It was crazy to me, sitting in a room full of guys as you probably were watching that game. How Many dudes in unison when Daniel Jones threw like his second pick, said, there he is.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Like, which sucks for Daniel Jones because he really has played great this year under pressure, the whole thing. Steichen, you know, he'll scheme up man beaters with the best of them. It's hard. It's hard to play these guys in the run phase, in the pass phase. I thought Pittsburgh matched up well, they got some big physical guys in the secondary, played Jalen at safety, which was a little wrinkle. I guess what I'm saying is the Colts shouldn't be discouraged by that game. They should take that next step, which they did in trying to like, cash in on this window. You've got a bunch of guys under contract over the next couple years. Another thing this means is Daniel Jones is probably getting paid.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Memes]

Which is a pretty wild thing that happened fast. But I like their defense. You get Kenny Moore inside, you bring in Bynum. You've got two lockdown corners outside who have the size and versatility of playing loose game. And I always say this, you cannot manufacture coverage. You can manufacture pass rush. So for a team that's not elite rushing the passer, this is going to help guys like Latu a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What comes first, the pass rush or a strong secondary because they feed off each other. Right. Like, if you've got a great pass rush, you can take an average secondary, make them look great. If you have an average pass rush, sometimes you can take. With an elite secondary, you can, you can make the pass rush look a little bit better than it is. So. Yeah. What comes first?

[Memes]

Mostly I think it's, you know, and this is a former pass rusher. I, I guess maybe my, my bias is like I've played with. With less than great corners behind me at times and like, you know, the, the fractions of time when you win, it can be so frustrating. The difference between a sack and a pressure is, you know, it's, it's a lot when it comes to like the court of public opinion, but it really isn't much when it comes to what you're doing as a rusher. So we see it all the time. Like, I think Denver's an example of really good rush and amazing coverage. Right. Like, you don't get that all the time. I just think like if you put two lockdown corners outside and you can man up which, which. And you can press which kind of increases that kind of fractions of time equation we always used to talk about, then I think it is coverage and Then rush. That's why, like, if I had an opportunity at, you know, like a generational pass rusher with nobody behind him or a generational corner with decent rushers up front, I'm taking the generational corner.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I got a question about the Lions. They lose that game to the Vikings. Are the Lions okay? Because I think we think they're okay, but that was a weird one, especially with the Vikings. Be able to stop their run and, like, is. You know, the Lions have had a couple games where they played the Chiefs. They got kind of. Kind of handled by the Chiefs on Monday football. They come back, they beat the Bucks. That was very nice game for them. But there's been a couple points where it's like, I think the Lions are good. I think they're okay. But just some weird situations where it's like, are we sure their offense is humming the way that we think it is? Because, you know, beating up the Bengals doesn't really get you credit.

[Memes]

No, the Bengals. The league should honestly hire the Bengals to play this just. Just this way, like, every week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Because they made a game exciting. They made that Bears game incredible last week. It is insane. But I just. For the Lions, and this isn't me waffling because I did take the packers to win the division. And I still think the Lions are a playoff team, and I still think they're one of the NFC elites, but they're not who they were last year. You know, like, it is hard to make the transition from coordinator to coordinator. Their scripts have been very good. They start the game strong. But. But at times, like, the play calling aspect of it leaves something to be desired. You know, I think the interior offensive line is the big theme, right.

[PFT Commenter]

We.

[Memes]

We all love Jared Goff. Think he's a fucking stud, right? Like, this didn't take anything away from him, but pressure up the middle at his feet is kind of his worst enemy. And, you know, you can look at metrics to say he's great under pressure and that sort of thing, but if he's got to move off his platform and if he gets the feeling that, hey, that wall is not being set in the middle of the pocket like he's accustomed to, it is a big difference. Like. Like Glasgow playing center is way different than Ragnow playing center. I think Ratledge is great, but Mahogany just left on a cart last week, and Ratlitch has been injured. Decker's been injured. I just think schematically, you saw this last week be flow and the Vikings took a step forward right like they, they, they blitzed the fuck out of those guys. And not even like to their standard every week from a volume standpoint, but just the precision with which they attack the A gaps. Jameer Gibbs gave up like seven pressures. So teams are onto this problem. I think schematically the Vikings gained some ground because you got a first time play caller. And I think the packers, from a physicality and a roster standpoint, gain ground. So, and I think the quarterback in Chicago who we, it felt like just yesterday, Dan, you were on my show, like, I'm fucking done, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

That was after this, after week two. It was, it was scary hours. And then I, and then I found the gateway and I've been, the gateway's been correct. I was like, hey, this team can put it back together. But yeah, it's, it's been, the Bears are, they're not going to win the NFC north because I don't trust the defense. But I've been saying for a while now, Ben Johnson has clearly changed the culture. And it's, it's clear this team is fighting in a way that, you know, that Bengals game, they would have lost. They would have, it would have been like a 4th and 18 and Justin Fields getting sacked or Caleb Williams getting sacked to end the game. They, they're, they're fighting in a way that they haven't fought in the last couple regimes.

[Memes]

Well, dude, they run the ball great. Which is one of the reasons I text you last week and I was like, yo, I'm betting the, out of the Bears. And then for like 35 seconds at the end of that day, although you were busy making like an untold amount of money on that jersey. Jerry Parlay, my, I was freaking out. It's the same thing this week. Like, they run the out outside zone. The Giants give up a bunch of explosives. They have a bunch of explosives on the ground. Like, like, I love that. But what I was going to say is the running back or the, the quarterback, Caleb Williams. Like, I, I don't think it's unreasonable to say he's the most talented quarterback in the division. Talented. You know, there's people that look at Jordan Love's big arm and that sort of thing and they say, like, but he's got a different kind of talent. Like the extension of plays, the throwing off, off platform, like that's big in today's NFL. The athleticism, the extension of plays. I, I, I like Caleb, dude. And I think honestly, like, like you look up in two years and you might be really well positioned in this division. So.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And you said it. You said it. I saw the left tackle 79 dry block somebody into the bench last week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Attitude.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. Left is Benedict. He's struggled a little bit. Darnell Wright was throwing people out the club, too.

[Memes]

Darnell Wright, he has turned into Penn a soul.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he was.

[Memes]

He was ready to make that leap. But I think Darnell Wright should be talked about just about in the same light. I think he's fucking fantastic. So I guess I'm just saying Detroit, they're used to a certain luxury when you're the big bad wolf in the division and you're so physical. But like the. The. You know that. Okay. Over the last three games, I think look at their. Their yards per carry. I mean, look at Gibbs yards per carry. You take away, I think the 78 yard run against Tampa.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Memes]

Which is a big if ifs were a fifth thing. But, like, they're just not productive on a consistent basis on early downs. And so, you know. And the secondary, we haven't even talked about that. Like, there's a bunch of dudes off the street. It's a bunch of dudes that, you know, and they just play, man. And like, they, you know, the Tampa game. I'm sorry, I'm rambling, but the Tampa game, Baker played as bad as Baker could have played, and he missed a lot of those schemed up opportunities. JJ didn't even play that great. Just took advantage of some of them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think this is a get right week, though, for the Lions. I feel like you could not. You could not draw this up any better for the Lions than. Yeah, we were talking about this earlier this week, how the Commanders, They've now lost three games in a row by 21 or more points, which you'd have to go back to 2020 to find a team that did that. And then they're on the verge of potentially losing a fourth to the Lions, who. Who desperately need a win. And you'd have to go back to 2002 to find a team. And I feel like with that commander's defense right now, especially the Commander secondary, this feels like it could be a huge week for Detroit.

[PFT Commenter]

I like the Commander. I mean, I do. I do. I like the Commander. I hate it because it's like you just. It's the NFL. You lose three times in a row by 21.

[Memes]

Feels like a zag.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone's like, holy, this team is garbage. It's trash. It's terrible.

[Big Cat]

One thing big Cats forgetting is that last week the Lions lost. So now they're really, really hungry to put it on.

[Memes]

This is the tough thing about this spot because you're kind of like, you know, it's unstoppable force versus immovable object. You know, the team that's mad that you lost in the playoffs and just lost, right. Committed like 20 fucking penalties. And Dan Campbell's probably corporal punishing everybody in the building this week. Just like flogging dudes, man. And then it's the other team who's been getting the brakes beat off him. But I think, I think it's a stay away for this reason, guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay?

[Memes]

I think it's just a way. I think like we. I've been to a stay away. There's a lot on the board I like this week. Dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. By the way, so PFT alluded to it. Is there anything to be said about a team you wanting to play a team off a win instead of off of a loss? Because a team off of a loss, especially if they're a good team. The Lions or Packers this past week, where they were heavy, heavy favorites losing outright, they're going to be more focused, right?

[Memes]

Yeah. I mean, you think so well coached teams are always, are always locked in. But you know, I think sometimes in the NFL it's an interesting thing. Like we would lose a game and you know you're going to get ripped, right? But when you win and the things you're not doing well, like as much as coaches try to coach, honestly, they do at the NFL level, sometimes coach off the result. So like our D line could have played the best game in the world, but if we lost and there's yelling in every the way an NFL meeting room is like, it's a hallway full of meeting rooms and you can, if you go out, take a piss in the middle of a meeting after like a shitty game on a Monday, you hear screaming in each room. And you know, certain rooms scream more than other rooms, like offensive line coaches and that sort of thing. Or a DB coach. D line coaches are big on like whatever the weather is in the building. We're just going to act this way because there's really not a lot to coach in that room. It's just like, hey, did you set the edge? Did you not? Do we get a pass rush? So a lot of times I used to hate like, you come in after a win if we played or a loss if we played well, coaches coach off the result. I think a loss can do a lot to force coaches and players to have tough conversations.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And so, you know, I think sometimes it's cliche to talk about it, but. But it is true. There's something to being that pissed off team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

That's coming off a bad loss. And in Detroit's case, they're going to play really well this weekend compared to last week. But they have personnel issues that they're not used to. Like, in the past, you could say, oh, Dan's just going to decide. They're going to fucking skull this team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

But this year, it's like, if you've got problems inside, like, that's kind of the domino for your whole offense.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Another big topic of the NFL this year has been soft benching. I think this is the first year that we've ever. Like, that term's really caught on this year. So now we're just saying that everything is soft benching. Everything that we see. Have you ever been soft bench? And did you know that there was a thing as a soft benching until this season?

[Memes]

Well, the nice thing about being a defensive lineman is, like, even when you get soft bench, you kind of still get to play, you know, because we rotate so much. And I can remember, like, you know, in the middle of my career, things are going great. Pardon my take guest all the time. Like, things are like, I'm playing well. I'm a captain on my team, you know, just all the. All the good stuff. And I got hurt, like, two years in a row and tried to play hurt. Like, just play, like, terrible tape. And Greg Williams kind of sat me down, like, when I came back off my injury and was like, you're not. Like, I can't. It's not fair, like, the way you're running around out there to. For you to start. Right? And so, like, I just was the second guy off the. I. It was behind William Hayes. You guys remember William Hayes, who's one of my best friends, and they put William Hayes in to start the game. And I'd come in off the bench like, this was the last half year of my St. Louis career. And, like, it wasn't, like, made to be a big deal, but I'm not a quarterback. Like, I don't know what that feels like to be the quarterback that's kind of like, everybody knows that the Kyler thing is clearly, it's over a soft bench.

[PFT Commenter]

It's over.

[Memes]

It's over.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's like, it's over there in Arizona. Like, that's because I think. I think Gannon even said if he was helping Pelty he'd go with Jacoby Brissette. So it's like, it's over.

[Memes]

It's got to be over. Dude, I've seen enough of the same movie there, and. And I think the thing I feel bad for Jonathan Gannon on is, like, I think he's a good coach. I didn't love the, like, shoving dudes thing. And, you know, like, I also think you can make mistakes, but that defense is really actually pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And. And they're one of the most unheralded, unheralded groups in the league. And they got good cover guys. You know, my boy Josh Wet coming on down there. I think he's got, like, seven sacks. And so I think this team's going to be a dangerous team. But, like, Arizona, Seattle, what's that line at right now?

[PFT Commenter]

Like, I like the Cardinals plus six and a half and.

[Memes]

Too many points.

[PFT Commenter]

It's too many points. And it's also just going off my basic theory of if a team, like, played a perfect football game on prime time, just go against them. And the Cardinals. The Cardinals played primetime as well, but that wasn't a perfect game against the Cowboys. The Seahawks played a perfect game against the Commanders. That was. That first half was a perfect football half.

[Memes]

Dude, it was like playing somebody that. It was like playing somebody in a video game that's. That's never played the game. Yeah, it was crazy to me, like, how easily they were scoring, the explosives, everything. And I just. Yeah, so we're talking about Arizona. Another thing I like, is Trey McBride starting to catch touchdowns? Yeah, like. Like Jacoby Brissette has found. And I Love Marvin Harrison Jr. I think he gets way too much shit. But. But, like, Trey McBride's their weapon. Like, he's their ace. Like, how the fuck does that guy not score, you know, eight, 10 touchdowns a year? And I think he's got, like, three or four since Jacoby took over. So I like that. And you got to realize, like, their run game took a step back from last year, like, and they're still playing a lot better in this scenario. They've had injuries in the backfield. Like, yeah, stick with Jacoby.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I love the dude on the Seahawks. Side of that, I do feel like the Seahawks are legit. And the addition of Rashid Shahid, that's like, that's perfect for that because he's going to have the opportunity to do what he does, which is get downfield and just be super fast and not. Not be coverable. And I feel like the Seahawks right now, if I'm looking at the nfc. I'm putting them right. I think I might put them top three in the NFC right now in terms of who can make the Super.

[PFT Commenter]

Super Bowl.

[Memes]

Yeah, dude. Because their defense is. And I don't want to take anything away from Sam because I think he's playing actually better than he played last year, which didn't surprise me because I think their offensive line's better than the offensive line that the Vikings fielded the back half of the year. And that's probably factors into how they made that decision to move on from him. But, like, he didn't have a full deck. I think if you look at Clint Kubiak, who's there as the offensive coordinator now, he was in New Orleans last year. Look at the way they use Shahid early in the year. I mean, he was going off. I think there's going to be a lot of fun for them. They can already stretch the field a little bit because of jsm, but, like, who's the one stretching the field for Shahid or jsn? Like, you can kind of play high, low games with those guys. Barner is a hell of a tight end and hopefully with all this speed, it gets people off of them so they can run the football because they actually haven't run the football that well this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

They're always playing like a hot, cold game with the running backs where it's like, okay, hopefully Kenneth Walker's going to have a good night. Okay, maybe it's Charming's night and. And it takes him sometimes like a quarter and a half, a full half of football to figure out whose night it really is going to be. And by that time, it can be just too late to get the running game going. But yeah, I'm. I'm buying big time on the Seahawks. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

I got a question for you about. You mentioned Jonathan Gannon. Hands on the player. Where. Where do you land on that? Are you. Are you a hop on Twitter and be like, don't like this. If anyone ever put their hands on me, I'd fucking kill him. You don't do this. Or is it more? No, hey, look, it's a passionate sport. You probably shouldn't do it, but shit happens on the sideline.

[Memes]

Well, I think baked into my analysis is the acknowledgment that there are plenty of dudes on a 53 man roster who are going to want to choke the coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Memes]

Like, and maybe I'm one of them in that situation, but I'm not going to get on Twitter and like, you know, huff and puff and put my chest out. The problem is, like, you know, I don't really like either reaction, which is the, like, oh, I'm going to find had Jonathan Gannon in the parking lot and beat him up. Or the reaction of the. The dude that never played a sport, hadn't played a sport since high school being like, hey, toughen the up NFL player. Like the, you know, coaches put their hands on kids. I'm like, yeah, maybe on your youth football team. But like, we're adults and this is a workplace. And, and, you know, it's kind of a slippery slope. If I, If I don't like something a coach says, do I get to put my hands on the coach?

[PFT Commenter]

I get to.

[Memes]

You know, I think it's funny because fans always find a way to side against the. The working class, if you know what I mean? Relatively speaking, in that situation. They always take the side of the coach or the, you know, the GM or whoever it is, anything but the player. And that was a soup. It was a stupid fucking play. But, you know, you could have avoided all that by just taking them out of the game.

[PFT Commenter]

I do think there's. You said the workplace. It's funny because I do think one of the disconnects that happens between fans and players and fans in, like, professional sports is how much you're. Yes, you're playing a sport. Yes, it's. It's. You're getting paid millions of dollars, but how much of your existence day to day is truly like, work. Like, you are going to the office from nine to five. You are doing. Yeah, it's totally different. Everyone would love to do it. It's. It's not saying that it's not the best job in the world, but at the end of the day, like, you are. You. You guys are going to work and you're like, everyone assumes that players are best friends with each other. Like, no, they're co workers. So there are some.

[Memes]

Well, the funny thing is, the funniest thing is, like, people will be like, you know, when you're like, hey, we work really hard. They're like, not as hard as a Marine in Afghanistan.

[Big Cat]

That's true.

[Memes]

I'm like, okay, well, what about, like an accountant?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Who's watching? Who's. Yeah, who's watching? Like, who's hanging out watching barstool all day? Which I. I love that. I love that guy. Yeah.

[Memes]

Which is great. Great. And like, I'm now in the private sector. You know, a private sector. I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

I'M civilian. Yeah.

[Memes]

Yeah, I'm quote, unquote, I'm not a. You know, I'm not laying my life on the line for the NFL anymore. But, like, you know, like, work is hard. It's hard for everybody. I mean, like. But that's a different kind of stress, dude. Like, that's a different. I don't think I realized until I got out how. How wired we all are in that scenario. Like, they're just things that are not acceptable at any other workplace in America. And, like, you know, it is funny to me that people always want to compare it to, like, the people that obviously we can't compare to, which are, like, police officers or first responders or, like, you know, Marines or something. Like, it's a fucking hard job and guys are on edge and, like, you got to be able to control your emotions. Players and coaches, like, you just don't. You don't put your hands on anybody in a situation like that. It's not that hard.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the. Actually, the. And this is not saying that we're comparable, but probably the only place you could compare it to is barstool sports. And the fact that we have, like, we had a controversy of Max putting his hands on Hank in the gambling cave. And everyone was like, we had a lot of people who were like, I would slap the shit out of Max if that happened to me. It's like, dude, they're friends. Like, they get emotional.

[Big Cat]

Meek, Phil and clear. Yeah, sometimes when you get. You get two alphas in a room, sometimes they butt heads.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't do anything about it.

[Big Cat]

You just got. You got to let them sort it out. Like bull elephants out in the water, wild. And then, you know, nature. Actually, there's a third type of guy. There was a guy that, like you said, would be like, oh, you know, back in my day, my. My coaches used to beat me up and I turned out fine. Also, they turned out not in the NFL.

[Memes]

Oh, yeah, that's the best. I turn out fine. I'm like a 50 year old tweeting drunk or something.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm just. I'm just cussing at Chris Long on Twitter because I'm pissed off because an NFL head coach should be able to push one of his players. Yeah, I'm good. I. I think the bigger highlight in that is that it says a lot about how Gannon looks at Dimmercado, because I don't think he would have done that to Josh Sweat.

[Memes]

Yeah, no, you're right about that. There is something to that. And people always Say, what about Andy Reid and Kelsey? Like, okay, now we're. Now there's nuance where these guys have been together for 20 years, and they are kind of like equals. Like, Travis Kelsey and Andy Reid are kind of equals, dude. And, you know, D. Mercado, who, you know, might get cut, he's fumbled a ball in the goal line. Like. Like, it'd be one thing. And honestly, like, players, coaches, you know, if coach comes up, slaps. This is an interesting, nuanced discussion about touching players. But, like, if you come up and you put both fists on the shoulder pads. Come on, man. Like, there's some hype in the guy up to that. Or even if you give him, you know, a pat on the back, like, on the way.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Or you touch his helmet just a little bit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

But it was the way that Gannon kind of twisted his body.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

You'd see the frustration. It was almost like he was spanking him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Memes]

Like, when you get the hip twist in there, you want to. You want to avoid that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And I. I actually don't love how the Cardinals handled it either. They. They find Gannon, like, the team find him. And so now everybody. All the players are like, well, this guy's not calling the shots. He just got. He just got bitched by the ownership.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I.

[Memes]

It's a mess. And that's just why. It's further evidence why you just don't draw attention to your team that way. You know, it's so funny. People, the same guys that are like, you know, they're the first ones to blame players when there's a distraction, which is, you know, the most misunderstood word in the NFL, are the ones defending the guy who's got the media crowded around the podium on Tuesday because he pushed a player.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Like, just avoid that bullshit.

[Big Cat]

Have you ever been distracted? I do love that term when it comes to football. Like, oh, this guy, he's a locker room distraction.

[Memes]

Like, everyone's going to work distracted by setting my NBA fantasy lineup. I swear to God, I use. We used to play NBA fantasy. Like, heavy, dude. We used to rent out the. The Ritz Carlton Ballroom and have our drafts with, like. It was a big deal. It was kind of like in. What's the movie where. Where Paul Rudd's doing. He's. He's doing the fantasy baseball draft, and then he drafts. No mo. And his wife shows up and she's all pissed off. What's that?

[Big Cat]

I love you, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I love you, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I want to watch Spider man, too. Like, it was like a big deal. We had like, in person drafts and like Joel on Dunbar and Cortland Finnegan, but that is tough to keep track of. And on Sunday mornings, like, I swear, sometimes I come back in from warm ups and set my lineup.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Fans would not be happy about out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

NBA fantasy is. It's a different beast. I tried doing it one year and this is way too much work for me. We should do. We should do dingers only, but for dunks. Yeah, Only dunks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Dunks only. We gotta track it, dude.

[Memes]

I can't even remember to set my fantasy lineup. By the way. I'm in that Tommy alter league, which is basically. He holds me at gunpoint every year and is like, be in my fantasy league. Like, and. And I don't even set my lineup. I mean, we're in there with like, Aren't you in there?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm in there.

[Memes]

Isn't like Tim Robinson in there?

[Big Cat]

Tim Robinson's in there. I'm trying to. Pablo Torres in that. I think. I think Pablo Tor is in first place.

[Memes]

You might not want to be in a group text with Pablo, Tori. He might hack into your mainframe. Jesus.

[PFT Commenter]

What? Wait, is. Is. Is there money involved in this league?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there's some money.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Because that's the thing is too. Is like, you can't. I can't do a fantasy league if people invite me and it's like, you know, a hundred bucks. Like, I'm not gonna check it. I'm just not gonna check it.

[Memes]

No, there has to be a punishment. Good fantasy team leagues are or, you know, defined by the punishment. But also this. I didn't draft my team because Tommy kept changing the day like he always does, and I had a recreational day lined up. I'm not going to change my schedule for, you know, the fourth league that I'm in.

[Big Cat]

I. I do think Chris and I are aligned in that league. That our main goal is to just beat Tommy. I think that's your team name. Is.

[Memes]

My team name is Beat Tommy. Dude, I'm tired of it.

[PFT Commenter]

It, bro.

[Memes]

I'm tired of the pictures. I'm tired of all his cool friends.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Tired of him making me be in the league. And then. And then the. And then he's like, hey, I notice you haven't paid. I'm like, bro, I didn't ask to be in the.

[PFT Commenter]

You pay.

[Big Cat]

No, I. I do love Tommy, but he is. This is like his little playhouse that he invented where he's like, okay, I'm gonna. I'M gonna get all my friends together and make them play against each other while I watch. Yeah, it's kind of sick stuff if you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it is.

[Memes]

I know. It's crazy, dude. It's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, Chris, I have one last question for you. This has been awesome. Always love having you on. We gotta do it again.

[Memes]

Let's get go.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen to the green light pod with Chris, and he's got our guy, Stanford. Steve on making his is. Is the man facts.

[Memes]

Yeah. This is whole.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got to be. Making's got to be going nuts about Virginia.

[Memes]

Oh, he is going nuts. We went to the Virginia gate. We went to the Florida State game, which I don't really go a lot. Like. Like, not. Not being too cool. I just like. I like watching from home.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

But I rushed the field with him. He. He talked me into rushing the field, which was sick. And some FSU players. Mom cussed us out because we rushed through the. The Florida State section, but Macon was going nuts, dude. He was skipping on the field. It was awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

That is awesome.

[Big Cat]

It was. It was maybe the best field rush of all time.

[PFT Commenter]

Also fastest.

[Big Cat]

It looked a little scary.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Oh, dude, there was a guy that disappeared in the white. Yeah. Is he okay? Did he make it out of there?

[PFT Commenter]

No, we haven't seen him since.

[Big Cat]

It's in a milk carton.

[PFT Commenter]

It's gone forever. Okay, last question. Roback question. Rho, b a c-k.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code. Take week 10. Give us if you want to go one or two best bets, games you're looking at maybe most interesting games. You don't have to. I don't want to. I don't want to put you on the spot and have it be a. A pick that everyone's like, oh, Chris steered us the wrong way, but maybe something you're feeling.

[Memes]

No. And, you know, for the record, if I. If I blow this up, I. I was five and. Oh last week, so. All right. I. I really like the Ravens.

[PFT Commenter]

Really.

[Memes]

I think the Ravens roll this week, and. Yeah, I do. I think Detroit played so poorly last week, and people are overvaluing Detroit.

[PFT Commenter]

And.

[Memes]

I feel like since Kyle Hamilton's been unleashed in the box, I also like the Draymond Jones trade. I think this team knows that they have no margin for error. Lamar's back. It's like, it's time to go, man. And. And, you know, I think I hit my stack guy. Up a little bit earlier. I'll give you one little nugget here.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean, also off that. I. I like that as well. Just, you can't blitz. Lamar and Brian Flores likes to blitz Detroit.

[Memes]

Detroit did that well, but that was a funky spot. They did. Vikings defense versus scrambles this season. 30th in success rate allowed, 29th and EPA per play allowed, 27th in yards per play allowed. And so I really like the Ravens. I also like the Bucks. Okay, good time to bet.

[PFT Commenter]

That's another one where actually, off of that, I'm curious because I was looking at some numbers and Drake May's been phenomenal against the blitz this year. Todd Bowles wants the blitz. Is a guy like Todd Bowles a good enough, different enough blitzer? Like, is it a situation where he will throw stuff at Drake May? The Drake May has never seen before. It's not just, hey, Drake May's good against the blitz. Todd Bowles blitz the Drake May is going to kill him.

[Memes]

Well, I think. I think it's like Todd Bowles prefers to man up and be aggressive, like if he can. And one of the reasons he was so giddy this off season was like, hey, we young, you know, man to man corners, which, you know, over the last couple years, at times he's had to be out of character. I think it's mostly about, like, those young offensive linemen who have been good. I think Will Campbell's a good player, man. I think he's going to be a really good player in this league for a long time. But, you know, they've given up some pressure. Last week, they gave up some. Some pressure on twists and stunts. So I just feel like in a game like this, I'm going to trust the more proven commodity. And if the Pats beat them, great, man, that's a big win for them. You know, they can hang that up there with the Bills win because they are. They are a team that I respect a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I got one more kind of like detailed football question for me, for you. But it's more about us being dumb and not really understanding when people dive deep into the numbers. I've seen a lot of discourse recently about 13 personnel. Yeah, about 12 personnel. Yeah, I understand what the numbers mean. We learned that, like four years ago. I think we retained that pretty well. It's one running back, three wide receivers. Or one running back, two wide receivers, two tight ends.

[Memes]

Sorry, tight ends.

[Big Cat]

Tight ends.

[Memes]

We're almost there.

[Big Cat]

I almost. I almost got it 90 of the way there. Why? Why are we talking about this all of a sudden? And which teams are the smartest in using those things?

[Memes]

That's a great question. Pft. We've heard. We've heard Greg Olson talking about this, and I think there's. There's something to be said for teams that get heavy. Right. So you match their personnel. And by get heavy, I mean two tight ends in the field, 12, 13 personnel. You employ the, you know, the opposing defensive coordinator to put a third linebacker on the field. Right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And then you throw the ball on them. And, you know, one of the cases that's being made right now is that, you know, Seattle, who likes a bunch of tight ends on the field, likes these bigger sets because they like play action. They like a lot of bodies on the edge to slow rushers down, which is why I think they're, bro. They're brilliant that way. But, you know, like, they get in those, those deals to, to throw the ball. And so when I think about, like using 12 personnel, that's a perfect example. Like get heavy and pass. And then there's teams that refuse to. To get heavy defensively and you run the ball on them ideally. You know, so. So I think that's the biggest thing. I, I don't think there's. I don't think there's a ton of great defenses in the middle of the field in the NFL. So, like, look at the Bills. That game last week was, was amazing. And I'm going to get off in a second, but like, it, you know how the whole thing is like. Yeah, but the Bills are going to lose in the playoffs. Here's the Bill's best hope is like, I don't know what Kansas City does to cover the tight ends.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Because with Reed, their safety going to New Orleans, like, they're down a cover guy. They're not a great rush football team. Pass rush outside of Chris Jones, like that to me is like the Bills have owned the middle of the field. How do the Bills continue to win, you know, without great wide receivers outside? They own the middle of the field. And so if they get in these two and three tight end sets more so two, two tight end sets. And they used a fullback a lot last week. Like you saw Gilliam on, like those lead plays. Like, that's coming back a little bit and I like it, man.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Because as a rusher, I don't like that shit. It's not that tight ends are big and strong. They're in the way and they make you adjust your angles. Like they make you get outside of them fit in a crease, like whatever, you know, it's just. There's more traffic.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's why I like Arroyo. He's. He's a big dude that can be on the end of that line in Seattle. And he's also a great pass catcher.

[Memes]

Yeah. And they ask all those guys to block. That's why, like, Cooper cup came in and that sort of thing, which, you know, it's cool to see guys bought in blocking. How about shout out to Mercedes Lewis too?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Still doing it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Incredible.

[PFT Commenter]

Incredible. All right, Chris, you're the best, man. Thank you. Hope to see you soon. And. And everyone go subscribe. He's crushing it every single week.

[Memes]

Trying.

[PFT Commenter]

Love y'. All.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Henry, what do we got?

[Big Cat]

Fire fest of the week.

[PFT Commenter]

Just.

[Big Cat]

Just being old, we did a Barcelo after dark dodgeball stream on Tuesday. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

There's 20 of our people.

[Big Cat]

Me, Max, PFT played. There's three college dodgeball teams and we probably played 25 matches. Didn't win a single one. No, we won that's not true.

[PFT Commenter]

We won two matches.

[Big Cat]

We won.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. 20 verse three.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Finally back to back.

[PFT Commenter]

And then we lost to 20, verse three.

[Big Cat]

You're.

[PFT Commenter]

You're just doing semantics at this point.

[Big Cat]

You are doing semantics.

[PFT Commenter]

You won a match.

[Big Cat]

Wait, is he doing semantics or some antics?

[PFT Commenter]

Both.

[Big Cat]

He's doing both.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but my body was sore after.

[Big Cat]

And it's been more. It's gotten worse every day. I've woken up since. Yeah, Like, I was more sore today than I was yesterday. Same. I woke up this morning, my shoulder was just. I couldn't move it. Do you still have, like, raspberries and marks on your body? Because in old age, when those balls hit, they sting.

[PFT Commenter]

Smoked in the face. Max got smoked in the face.

[Big Cat]

I laughed in his face face.

[PFT Commenter]

And then I got smoked.

[Big Cat]

It was great.

[PFT Commenter]

It was within like 30 seconds of.

[Big Cat]

Me stepping onto the dodgeball court.

[PFT Commenter]

Just an absolute fireball right to my.

[Big Cat]

The left side of my face.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank couldn't have laughed harder. And then like 20 minutes later, the.

[Big Cat]

Same thing happened to him. Damn. Some elite.

[PFT Commenter]

It was funny.

[Big Cat]

It was like I felt like I was in a movie, like in a war movie where it's like the two, you know, two soldiers are talking to each other and then one of them just gets blown up. Yeah, that's what it felt like. I was standing next to Max and he just got smoked. Thank you for his service, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Yeah. That looked like it didn't look fun.

[Big Cat]

It wasn't. It was not fun.

[PFT Commenter]

It was fun for the viewer.

[Big Cat]

The crazy thing about those balls is there's a way that you're supposed to grip them, to throw them hard.

[PFT Commenter]

Y.

[Big Cat]

And these college dodge, they've all, like, mastered how to do it, how to throw it. They throw it like 70 miles an hour. They're really good with curve on it. And then if you try to do that, you have to, like, grab it and then pinch underneath the nipple of the ball is what they say. And so I tried to do that the whole time, and every single finger on my right hand feels like it's jammed right now. Gripping that ball for what was it, like, three hours?

[Memes]

Brutal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was tough grind, but we won. Don't let. Don't let. Max.

[PFT Commenter]

You won a game.

[Big Cat]

Disinformation.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, you guys didn't win. I was the one who defended that. We won.

[Big Cat]

He was doing disinformation. That's right. Hank was doing this.

[PFT Commenter]

We lost 20 verse three. Yeah, that's a tough loss, but we won two of them that were 20 verse three. That's cool. I guess. To the championship. You made it to the championship.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Well, you made it to the championship. 20 verse three losers. All that for all that to lose. Okay. Pft.

[Big Cat]

My fair fest has been the. The ongoing saga of the Internet Invitational as it. As it keeps unfolding. And the matches are going to get crazier and better. I can't wait to watch the entire rest of the series. I think people are going to continue to really, really enjoy all the different rinks, wrinkles and stuff that happens moving forward. But to clean up stuff that happened from last week, it's just the. The Luke Kwan thing is like a story that won't die online. And it. It's taken a turn where now there was like a backlash to the backlash against Luke Kwan, of course. And now people are like, Luke did nothing wrong. Some people are now questioning my handicap on both sides. Oh, of what my. I've got people saying I'm a sandbagger, people saying I'm reverse sandbagger. And that's. That's like a weird golf. Twitter is insane.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

When it comes to that. But Luke put out a video this week where he apologized and memes made a super cut of all of his apologies. I think he apologized, I don't know, dozen times.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I. I genuinely am apologetic for that. Genuinely sorry. Just want to reiterate. I really am sorry. Pft. Genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, I'm really sorry. I really am sorry.

[Memes]

I genuinely would have came up to.

[PFT Commenter]

You and said sorry to you in person.

[Memes]

I should have said sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, I definitely should have said sorry. I'm sorry that I didn't.

[Memes]

I made an honest mistake and I was sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

Harder of a environment for me to go up there and just say sorry.

[Big Cat]

Why didn't you say sorry? I should have just said sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

Sorry right away. But I'm sorry.

[Big Cat]

Specific. I'm sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

And I'm sorry to my teammates. Again, I'm sorry. I genuinely am sorry. I apologize. I apologize. I'm sorry about my nonchalantness. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for saying those things. Pft. Honestly, I'm sorry. Sorry. I really am genuinely sorry. That was. I'm still sorry. I'm sorry. I really do apologize. Pft. If you're watching. I really do apologize. I'm also sorry. Genuinely sorry. And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Genuinely apologizing. Sorry. I'm just sorry.

[Memes]

At the end of the day, I.

[PFT Commenter]

Just want to say I'M sorry.

[Big Cat]

So I've been going back and forth.

[PFT Commenter]

A little way more than that. Can I see one of these? Do we have it?

[Big Cat]

He said the word sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

I only watched this.

[Big Cat]

I watched half the video. He said the word sorry probably 50 times. Times. I thought it was. I thought he was doing a bit. It escaped.

[PFT Commenter]

I was like, it might have been.

[Big Cat]

He might be doing satire. It escaped containment. It's popping up everywhere online, like, places I'm not expecting to see. Talking about the Luke Kwan PFT scramble match at the Invitational. So he. Yeah, we can play a little bit of it.

[PFT Commenter]

Addressing Internet invitation. 16 minutes. Yeah, that's too long.

[Big Cat]

16 minute apology video.

[PFT Commenter]

18 minutes to be addressing the. This has been a whirlwind view days. Usually. I am opening Instagram habitually just being an idiot, and I've just, like, tried to not open the app anymore. I don't. Like, there's, like, apps that are not safe anymore.

[Memes]

Anyways, you guys know what happened. I. I just wanted to come in.

[PFT Commenter]

Here and at least say something to all the teammates. I. I apologize, like, sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, if I haven't said this to you in person yet. I hope you hear this now. I apologize.

[Memes]

I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sorry for waking up late. I'm sorry for disrespecting. I'm sorry I was disrespectful to your time, this event. Did he address you specifically?

[Big Cat]

I don't know if he. I haven't watched the full video, but he sent me this video on Friday night before he posted. He's like, hey, I'm thinking about posting this because I've been texting with him. I want to see how he was doing and be like, that was pretty crazy. And I don't. I haven't watched the full video, so I'm not exactly sure what he does or doesn't say in the.

[PFT Commenter]

The full apology when he texted you to say, hey, I'm thinking about posting this. Did you watch the video? Or you're just like, that's good to post?

[Big Cat]

No, I watched it.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I watched it.

[PFT Commenter]

You didn't watch the full video?

[Big Cat]

I watched the full video that he sent, but I think he probably edited some of that down.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Into the 18 minute version.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right. Here's him addressing, PFT, PFT. If you're watching, I really do apologize. That was not my intention. Oh, nice. And I know, like, I'm saying it's banter, maybe you guys think it's disrespectful. I. I really do. I'm. I'm also sorry for thinking that I can banter with PFT like I do with my friends. I misread that.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

That wasn't banter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the thing is, like, it wasn't. He didn't banter. He was just a dick.

[Big Cat]

I was, I was just trying to win the golf tournament and then be like, hey, Luke, let's be friends and, and play this round. And he started like just jumping into ball busing, which is like, my feelings aren't going to get hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

I work at barstool sports. I hear way worse than that with the people that I work on the show with on a daily basis.

[PFT Commenter]

His biggest problem was that he talked to talk and then he slept in and didn't walk to walk. Like, if he had. If he had come out and dominated, none of this would have mattered. It's just like you can't talk the talk and then have that happen to you. And then people are also not a very big deal overall.

[Big Cat]

It's really not. But then now people are online, are like, I can't believe that Luke did that. And then he showed up and proceeded to berate his poor 25 handicap cap playing partner. And so now I'm like a big victim in all this.

[PFT Commenter]

You are.

[Big Cat]

Which I, I am like, my feelings. No one's talking about my feelings throughout all this. But. So I've been going back and forth with Luke. I think the best way out of this. And I've. I've told Luke I want to play him heads up, head to head in a match, handicaps included, and I want to make it happen soon.

[PFT Commenter]

You're sandbagging handicap or your regular handicap?

[Big Cat]

My handicap just dropped. I think it's gonna. Oh, I think it's 21.8 now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

My, my real handicap is what we're going to use. I want to do a thing where the loser has to wake up at 5am every day for a month and go live or do something like proof of I'm awake and fully dressed.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

I'm capable of waking up at 5am and, and post that online somewhere for accountability. That. That was my idea. I actually haven't talked to Luke about that wrinkle to it, but I want to, I want to play him head to head in this. I want me to be able to pick his caddy. I want him to be able to. He can pick anybody for my caddy. And I've got a short list of like, probably two people that I'M thinking about for Luke Juan's caddy, and I want to make it happen soon. I think we will. But it does feel like it's the. The very strange controversy that just won't die on.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I just hope that next time I sleep in and miss something that I get the, like, the amount of people, like, being like, I stand with Luke Juan. I stand with Luke Juan. I. I want that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, like, I would. I would just awls, if you're listening. Like, if I sleep in and miss something, like, keep that same.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, they're not.

[Big Cat]

People were very supportive of.

[PFT Commenter]

They're not support overwhelmingly being like, I stand with Luke. But they're not.

[Big Cat]

You're standing with the guy that just slept in and missed a tea time.

[PFT Commenter]

But you understand they're not standing with him for sleeping in.

[Big Cat]

I think they are.

[PFT Commenter]

No, they're standing with him because he got. Got brutalized online, which was a fair reaction. It's just a. It's a reaction to the reaction, like PFT said.

[Big Cat]

Also, like, some of the. Some of the video recaps that I've seen of it recently are people that are like, there are just a lot of people using the F word on Luke Kwan's comment section online. And I've never seen something like this on Golf YouTube.

[PFT Commenter]

The Internet Invitational is awesome. It is. I can't wait to see it grow. Golf, golf, golf. Like Twitter and fan. They're a little soft. Wouldn't you agree, Hank? They're soft. Like, it's just. It's okay to say that they're soft. So they don't. This is a different world. Barcelona is a different world where this is like, something that happens and it's like, yeah, he's an asshole, but we'll move on. They're a little soft. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So his. His comment. He pinned this comment on the YouTube also. No. Hate to PFT, please. Thank you, Luke, for. For calling the quad. I'll stand with you, pfc.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I don't like standing this.

[Big Cat]

He reached out and texted asking me how I'm doing. He's a good dude. And we're down to do something in Chicago when schedules line up. Life goes on, doesn't it?

[PFT Commenter]

No. Oh, you missed something there.

[Big Cat]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Life goes on. Lol.

[Big Cat]

Lol.

[PFT Commenter]

Doesn't matter.

[Big Cat]

Doesn't matter.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, no, no. Not. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

[Big Cat]

Doesn't matter. So I don't think it's. I'm trying to work out something where we don't have to wait to play In Chicago. I want to do it soon. I want to. I want to have a head to head rematch. I want just like New Zealand, me versus maybe go to New Zealand. Hank, you got the shirt on right now.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll say. Listen, it doesn't. It doesn't matter long term, but I still hate Luke. One.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, I'll be in that camp. That's fine.

[Big Cat]

I'm standing with him.

[PFT Commenter]

You stand with him.

[Big Cat]

The sleeping in part.

[PFT Commenter]

Even though he disrespected someone who's very close to you multiple times.

[Big Cat]

They made up.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, I. I'll hold the grudge.

[Big Cat]

I never felt disrespected in the moment because I'm. I suck at golf. I know that. I'm. I'm bad. I just thought he was being a. You can. You can be like, yeah, that's. This guy's just being a right now. And I. My feelings weren't like, oh, I can't believe Luke. Juan made fun of me because I can't putt very good. Yeah, like, that's on the list of things that I care about in my life. My putting ability is. It's got to be close to the bottom.

[PFT Commenter]

Still was a dick move to be like, you're not gonna make that. Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

[Big Cat]

He was right. He was right.

[PFT Commenter]

He was right on that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he was very right about it. So, yeah, we'll try to make something happen. But in the meantime, the. The next few episodes of the Internet Invitational are going to be incredible.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

And I. I can't wait to watch how it turned out.

[PFT Commenter]

The. All right, my fire fest is at. Max, I think you probably are going through the same thing. I miss baseball. I've had, like, kind of a weird. And I think part of it was I went on Tuesday. I went to get dinner at Chick Fil A with my son, and we went to the one by Wrigley. So we drove by Wrigley. And the weather has also been perfect. Fall weather. I just miss baseball. I don't know. Miss the boys of summer. It hasn't hit me that I think it's a combo of the Cubs being in the playoffs and then the World Series being as good as it was. I missed the. Out of baseball. Yeah, I miss baseball, too.

[Big Cat]

But I have great news for everyone else who misses baseball.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, what's the news next week? Yes, Dingers only video. Yes. Stephen Che. Who lost Dingers only. This. No, no. Oh, you. Oh, no. Oh, you asked you from last year? Yeah, from last year.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wow. That's weird because it's like over a calendar year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's confused.

[PFT Commenter]

I forgot. I thought we were just going right there to Stephen Che. No, no, no, we did it. It's going to be. I'm excited.

[Big Cat]

I'm excited for the people to see.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

The, the Savannah Bananas. Max. Max. It.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Savannah Bananas.

[Big Cat]

We pitched.

[PFT Commenter]

We, we played against Savannah Bananas at.

[Big Cat]

The White Sox field.

[PFT Commenter]

Undisclosed undisclosed fields. Looks like a major league stadium. But we don't know where it was.

[Big Cat]

That's why I didn't use the actual name.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And it's, it's a cool stadium. It's Chicago Stadium. Chicago Baseball stadium.

[Big Cat]

I saw.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. When they didn't, when a video game didn't get rights.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To a certain team. It's. We're playing at the Chicago baseball stadium.

[Big Cat]

All I can say about what stadium it was when I was leaving, I saw some delicious looking s' mores desserts that they were making in the concourse there. Looked like some really good ballpark food.

[PFT Commenter]

So. Yeah. My miss Baseball also. I, I think I've talked about this before. I think this is actually now because like going through like your kids different ages. I think this happened a couple years ago and I mentioned it. But now my middle child, my 4 year old is in the phase of just waking up at 2 in the morning and coming into my room and I, she is a terrorist because I can't stop her. I said to her straight up, I said to her, hey, you gotta stay in your room. And she just said no and just smiled in my face and there was nothing I could do about it.

[Big Cat]

Argument one.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just, she just is like, I was like, hey, can you please stay in your room? Like we really, we got to stay in our room. We got to get our sleep. And she just goes, no. And I was like, I'm out. You can't, there's nothing you can do.

[Big Cat]

You can't negotiate with that. No, you can't, you can't reason with.

[Memes]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

She's, she's got me. She's got me. It's, it's bad. It's a bad scene. So I, I, I said I was going to lock all the doors. That didn't go over well. So yeah, it's, it's a problem. I think I got to beat someone up in front of my kids. So they think that like, because they're always coming being like, I'm scared, I'm scared, I'm scared. It's like, but I'm here, here. So I got I got to do like a feats. Maybe we'll. Maybe I gotta like simulate like Max coming to our house. I just beat him up.

[Big Cat]

You got to hire somebody for that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Max breaks in wearing a mask.

[PFT Commenter]

I just beat the out of him.

[Big Cat]

You tap? Make him tap. Make a burglar tap. Yeah, I could do. And then, and then you give him a lesson like Dog the Bounty hunter on the way out. And then he becomes like indebted to you for the rest of his life. And she's like, wow, my dad, he can beat people up. And he's also a really kind, sweet guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Dog the Bounty Hunter has been DMing me randomly and I don't really understand why, but he's just been DMing me like every other week. Let me look up. How does a girl suicide herself with two dozen knives? Broad the jigsaw. Couldn't write this in a sequel. Please share, Please share this, brother. Aloha. And then, and then the other day on Tuesday he just said, are you for Trump or. No, I haven't replied to any of these. Yeah, I might need to get back in the dog business. Business.

[Big Cat]

That's wild.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's. He just keeps sending me hot tips, being like, hey, let's get this guy.

[Big Cat]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe I gotta mount up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Have you ever helped him track anybody down?

[PFT Commenter]

I haven't, but I'm. I'm down to help. Absolutely down to help.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Whatever you need, dog. With your baseball thing about missing baseball this time of year, I had a dumb thought. What if. What if the NBA was a summertime sport? And what if. I know baseball in the fall is incredible. I love it. But what if baseball. Yeah, baseball stays in the summertime.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You can't.

[PFT Commenter]

We could improve baseball.

[Big Cat]

I was just thinking about like flip flopping sports seasons.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

When I was trying to go to sleep the other day and I just felt like NBA in the summertime would be good.

[PFT Commenter]

No, the only fix for NBA would be it started Christmas.

[Big Cat]

Sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, maybe that would be more. Because I just. November basketball is just so. It's. I don't know, it's like. It's not. I like college basketball. College feast week is my favorite.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But. But nbi.

[Big Cat]

NBA can.

[PFT Commenter]

Can say.

[Big Cat]

Could. Could do Christmas, right? Yeah. I think my, my thought was more about how much I dislike the NBA this time of year. I was like, what if we just moved to the summertime, fill in some of those gaps and days a little bit. But yeah, you're right. I think, I think the sports calendar, they Got it right.

[PFT Commenter]

They got it right.

[Big Cat]

They got Shout Out. God, they got it right.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, Zach, finish us off.

[Big Cat]

My fairfest of this week is I've been hearing conflicting reports on this, and.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd like to get your guys take.

[Memes]

On this as well.

[PFT Commenter]

I went on, I guess, what someone calls solo date the other day.

[Big Cat]

I thought it was okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought it was like a super.

[Memes]

Normal thing to do.

[Big Cat]

And I'm hearing. I'm hearing otherwise.

[PFT Commenter]

How did the date go? It was.

[Big Cat]

It was fantastic.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, like, I think I.

[Big Cat]

There's like.

[Memes]

You got to think about it.

[Big Cat]

There's no small talk.

[PFT Commenter]

You get to order whatever. Yeah. You get to eat at your own. Oh, wait, hold on. I was confused. Yeah, no, I thought you meant a solo date. You went just you and a woman.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no.

[PFT Commenter]

You just went out to dinner by yourself.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought was more normal at the time.

[Big Cat]

And I'm hearing conflicting reports.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I was curious what you guys thoughts were.

[Big Cat]

Joe Flacco told us. That's heaven on earth.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, dude. It's nice to just go do something by like. I did. I did a solo walk the other day. I just. It was a beautiful fall day. It was like I dropped my kids off at school. I didn't have to be in work for, I don't know, like an hour or so. I was like, I'm just gonna go for a walk. And it was sick.

[Big Cat]

You ever. You ever go to the movies solo? Yes, sir, all the time. That's great.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's the best way to.

[Memes]

Go to the movies.

[PFT Commenter]

What was your solo date? Did you order for two? No, I. I like, played the field a little bit, but let's hear the order. Where'd you go? I went to a dessert place on the street.

[Big Cat]

That changed my time.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's not. Not a dessert place. Holy Tavern. Not a dessert place, but has a very good dessert. I've been here. I've been hearing so many things about the dessert.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. For weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's not a dessert.

[Big Cat]

But you're not a dessert.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like a very, very nice restaurant.

[Big Cat]

Everyone just tells you about desserts. You hear about desserts from everywhere.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's a good point. Did you take that in consideration?

[Big Cat]

Did you only get dessert? Did you get. Get a full meal? We had.

[PFT Commenter]

We did or I did a couple courses. Yeah, give it to us. Give us the order.

[Big Cat]

Pigs in a blanket, crab wontons, and then just a prime rib sandwich and some pasta.

[PFT Commenter]

And you always have a great way of Adding it's good. The last thing that you don't expect. And then what was the dessert? Sticky day cake that everybody's been. Been raving about. Okay. This place is a dessert place because that was the best place.

[Big Cat]

That was the best thing on the menu.

[PFT Commenter]

So you basically, you force fed yourself four courses just to get to the dessert. I. I was just anticipating dessert the whole time. I was like, I need to look like an adult and order regular food. And the whole time I should have just went double dessert and got out of there. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Zach, I'm curious to know what. What you're like at a restaurant, especially a solo date, if you're ordering food because you're the nicest guy in the world and you're always asking people what you can do for them. Like when you order, you ask for an item of food from a server. Do you feel bad about making them go get that food? No, the waiter was very nice. I was just more. I was asking him what his favorites were.

[PFT Commenter]

I was like, we'll play the hits. This guy knows ball probably.

[Big Cat]

So I put together his. His one. One meal. There. That's good. Yeah, that's a good way to do it. But yeah. Nothing wrong with solo date.

[PFT Commenter]

Nothing wrong at all.

[Big Cat]

There are some places where you probably shouldn't go on a solo date. Like the zoo. The zoo feels like a bad solo day.

[PFT Commenter]

Kind of a cool place. You get to walk around. You don't have to deal with anything. You just see the animals. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If a guy goes to the zoo by himself, he's going to be in and out in like an hour because he's just going to, like, speed walk to every place and be like, saw the giraffe. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Saw the elephant.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Zach, be yourself. How is the duo dates going? Any duet dates are cool.

[Big Cat]

I just think solo dates might be.

[PFT Commenter]

You got a better opportunity. Do we have any female awls in Chicago area that maybe want to solo date with Zach?

[Big Cat]

I got no due dates on the calendar. Probably some solo ones coming up.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

At the end of. So that was. That was your first date, the solo date that you went on. Did you get invited up? Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Straight back to the house. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

[Big Cat]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

That's nice.

[Big Cat]

Nice. Close the deal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right. Good show, boys. Let's do number three memes. You feel good about this today? You're in your loop. I do. I also do by myself sometimes, and I felt extremely disrespected right there. You can walk through the zoo. Yeah. You could definitely go through the Zoo you could definitely do on a solo.

[Big Cat]

I've never done it. I guess maybe it was free, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just walk through.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Listen, I. I retry. I love the zoo. I've just never been there solo. You gotta. Been to the Chicago Zoo? I have, yeah. Yeah. See the polar bears. Been there.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, zoo is awesome.

[Big Cat]

It's great. The lions are incredible. There's two new.

[PFT Commenter]

New bears at the park zoo, too. Yeah. Two brown bears. Sick. Yeah. It is 99. Also, the gorilla enclosure there, they could just jump over. Oh, yeah. Big time. Big time.

[Big Cat]

And you get the added, like, family drama of the gorillas. You could see, like, the kids running around, the mom being like, hey, quit playing. The kids being like, I'm gonna keep playing my kids.

[PFT Commenter]

My. My son went to zoo camp.

[Big Cat]

You should drop your kid in the grill enclosure and then shoot the.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no. That's how you show them. No, my. My son went to zoo camp the last two years at the Link Park Zoo. I was like, I'm so jealous.

[Big Cat]

Zoo camp is. I would go to zoo camp as an adult.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And then when we go to the zoo, he's like, the expert. He's like, oh, no, it's over here. It's like, you know, it all seems.

[Big Cat]

Like they get really cool shorts when you work at the zoo.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Just khaki.

[Big Cat]

The khaki ones.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, everyone say their numbers again. 77, 22, 133, 44, 15, 6. 61 means. Would you like to do another?

[Memes]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, let's do one more. He's getting close. It's gonna happen. He's gonna. He's gonna beat Hank's guest record.

[Big Cat]

Well, I have guessed it.

[PFT Commenter]

What? What? I have. I have guessed it.

[Big Cat]

No, you didn't get.

[PFT Commenter]

I have guessed. I have guessed it. I have guessed it correct right now.

[Big Cat]

Also, I think.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Huey's on there.

[Big Cat]

He hasn't gotten it.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes is.

[Memes]

Where's.

[PFT Commenter]

Where's. Where's Hank? I don't see. Oh, yeah. Memes is. He is like. What is he at? 336 guesses. So, yeah. Damn. We're getting after this. He's going to be 66 guesses, 68 guesses away from Hank, and he's not getting this one. We know that. Oh, my God. Means two.

[Big Cat]

Love you guys.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the one.

[Big Cat]

I guessed correct correctly. Love you guys. Sa.