NFL Week 4, Fastest 2 Minutes, Chiefs Are Back, Bills/Eagles Stay Undefeated + We Talk Ryder Cup And Baseball Playoffs

Summary

Pardon My Take: NFL Week 4 – Chiefs Are Back, Undefeated Bills/Eagles + Ryder Cup & Playoffs

Podcast: Pardon My Take
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Date: September 29, 2025
Episode Theme: Week 4 NFL Recap, International Football Expansion, Chiefs/Eagles/Bills Assessment, Fastest 2 Minutes, Ryder Cup Reactions, MLB Playoff Bracket, and Weekly Antics

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Episode Overview

This episode covers a packed sports weekend, led by in-depth NFL Week 4 recaps, a look at the Chiefs reclaiming dominance, the ongoing undefeated runs of the Eagles and Bills, frustration with international NFL games, memorable locker room and coaching moments, player injuries, and hot takes, as well as quick hits on Ryder Cup drama and MLB playoff picture. Big Cat, PFT Commenter, Zach, Hank, and Max blend insightful football analysis with classic PMT humor—debating coaching decisions, NFL policies, and the highs and lows of the weekend. The show maintains its trademark irreverent, fast-paced banter throughout.

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Main Segments and Timestamps

Fastest 2 Minutes – Week 4 NFL Recap

[Starts ~03:08]

• Segment Theme: Whirlwind comedic summary of every notable Sunday game.
• Signature PMT-style voiceover, puns & player nicknames.
  • Steelers 24, Vikings 21: The Steelers D-line, Tomlin’s 4th-down fears, Jordan Addison run-down (“Vikings’ jersey is like a ransom note” - Zach [21:47]).
  • Falcons 34, Commanders 27: Offensive explosion for ATL’s skill guys, questions about Washington’s defense.
  • Lions 34, Browns 10: Goff-MonRa masterclass, “That’s why they call me Daddy.”
  • Bills 31, Saints 17: Allen’s highlight throws, Saints’ haplessness.
  • Eagles 31, Buccaneers 25: Eagles special teams, Jalen Hurts’ wild statline (“second half Jalen Hurts was 0-8, zero yards” - Zach [30:03]).
  • Patriots 42, Panthers 13: May strikes big, old fashioned stomping.
  • Bears 25, Raiders 24: Close win; “Chicago culture victory” theme returns.
  • Chiefs 37, Ravens 20: Chiefs offense reignites, exposing Baltimore’s flaws.

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International Games & NFL Scheduling Expansion

[12:13]

• News: NFL signs multi-year Brazil games; seeks 16 annual international games so every team plays abroad.
• Rants about Early Games:
  • Zach: “You wake up early, can’t do anything because you’re watching football, then gotta watch another—then another—before you know it you haven’t done anything resembling what a human being does in the course of a day” [13:02].
  • PFT: “Roger Goodell hates church…Think about all the people out there who are hungover.”
• Personal Side Plot: Hank’s travel saga—missing a flight, $300 Uber to Pittsburgh, self-inflicted pain/humor (“Today the haters won. And I paid for it.” - Hank [15:07]).

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Deep Dives: Key Games & Storylines

Steelers 24, Vikings 21

[16:28]

• Steelers Offense: Aaron Rodgers’ quick-release tactics (2.17 sec to throw), no deep shots but efficient. DK Metcalf’s impact.
• Coaching Callout: Mike Tomlin “lives in his fears” on 4th down. (“You punted? Dude, everyone in the world is going for this…” - PFT [17:49])
• Vikings O-Line Losses: Major injuries (Ryan Kelly, Brian O’Neill).
• Game Ball Moment: “Peyton Wilson chasing down Jordan Addison. That was an incredible play.” - PFT [20:46]
• Funny Jersey Observation: “Carson Wentz’s two ones are different fonts, like his jersey is a ransom note.” - Zach [21:47]
• Vikings' European Travels: Unique strategy to minimize home game loss.

Eagles 31, Buccaneers 25

[27:27]

• Eagles First Half Dominance: Blocked punt TD, Jalen Hurts sharp.
• Strange Hurts Stat: 0 second-half completions—the rarest way to win.
• A.J. Brown Drama: Mysterious postgame Bible verse tweet (“If you’re not welcomed, not listened to, quietly withdraw...that city is condemned to hell.” - Zach [32:22])
• Tush Push Debate: Fake tush-push play, PMT calls for “tush push ethics”—Eagles too good to fake it. (“That’s kind of cheating in my eyes.” - PFT [34:10])
• Bucs Analysis: Too many mistakes early, Bucs’ late-game rallies now a pattern (“Just wait for Baker to anamorph into a dog.” - Zach [36:24])
• Sun/Shade Conversation: Sideline heat strategies in Tampa.

Giants 21, Chargers 18

[39:24]

• Jackson Dart’s Debut: Promising new QB sparks life. (“The turtleneck and bandana work because he’s a winner.” - PFT [40:32])
• Defensive Emergence: Carter, Burns, Thibodeaux all rack up serious pressure.
• Vibes Back: Dable’s emotional postgame embrace—PMT’s romance-novel reading from a news article [44:24].
• Giants' Hopefulness: For once, real talent & excitement.

Patriots 42, Panthers 13

[60:29]

• Drake May’s Homecoming: Performs and does Cam’s touchdown celebration. (“No fumbles. Basically perfect passer rating.” - Hank [61:10])
• Punt Return: Marcus Jones’ electric TD.
• Stat of the Week: “Three straight games w/ 75%+ completion and 2+ TDs – only he and Brady have ever done that for Pats.” - Zach [61:46]
• Fan Banter: Early bye week/flight-missing camaraderie, and Uber travel tales.

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Around the League: Hot Takes & Quick Hits

Chiefs 37, Ravens 20

[119:48]

• Chiefs Offense: Mahomes’ mastery returns; “youngest to throw 250 TDs, 18th career 4-TD game.”
• Ravens’ Brutal Loss: Multiple injuries (Lamar, Roquan, Stanley), defense gives up 133+ points in 4 wks (“Only 2 teams ever made playoffs giving up that much this early.”)
• Ravens Analysis: Skepticism about their Super Bowl viability (“I have officially moved the Ravens into ‘don’t trust’ territory.” - Zach [128:34])
• Mahomes/Lamar head-to-head: “Mahomes now 6-1 vs. Lamar.”

Lions 34, Browns 10

[76:31]

• Lions’ Consistency: Dominant win against an (ostensibly) good defense, no sacks allowed for 3 straight weeks.
• Aidan Hutchinson: “He was everywhere.”
• Flacco Era Ending?: Kevin Stefanski cryptic, but Flacco’s future questionable (“We understand the question, but that's not our focus.” - [79:20])
• Random Stat: Amon-Ra St. Brown possibly caught playing 2K at 4:30 am, then scored 2 TDs (“He had to keep the win streak alive!” - segment [82:07])

Falcons 34, Commanders 27

[47:00]

• All Offense Arrives: Bijan, London, Pitts, and Penix all click—“the game it all happened.”
• Commanders Defense: Slow, aging, and unable to contain ATL skill talent.
• Jaden Daniels Out: “Must win” next week at Chargers, defense can’t be trusted.

Other Notable Games (Quick Notes)

• Bears 25, Raiders 24: “Ugly win, but a win is a win.” – The classic “Chicago culture win.”
• Texans 26, Titans 0: “We ass. Little bro ass.” – Cam Ward’s postgame [85:36]
• Jags 26, Niners 21: New rivalry—Liam Cohen vs. Robert Saleh, sign-stealing spat, Jags D forces four turnovers.
• Rams 27, Colts 20: “Can Colts claim 4-1? They only lost to themselves.”

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Ryder Cup Recap

[133:13]

• U.S. Gets Trounced: Early deficit too much; “Got as close as they could on Sunday, but never gave themselves a shot” – Hank [133:15]
• Questionable Pairings: Team USA’s analytics-blind team selections baffle.
• Team Chemistry: Europe’s players appear to care more and genuinely like each other (“Their embraces on the green were like a guy coming back from war.” - PFT [135:00]).
• Fans & Culture: U.S. attempts at fan chants and crowd control flop compared to European energy.
• Rules Gripes: Ties/halves and injury outs frustrate PMT panel.

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MLB Playoffs

[147:32]

• Guardians’ Miracle Run: From 15.5 back in July to AL Central champs.
• Tigers, Mets Collapse: Notable chokes.
• Reds Make Playoffs: First since 2013.
• FRANK WAS RIGHT: Mets, spend-heavy but “spineless.”
• Bracket: Guardians host Tigers, Yankees host Red Sox, Cubs host Padres, Dodgers host Reds.
• Playoff Baseball Vibes: Foul ball stories, kids’ joy, Cubs optimism.

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Best Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Carson Wentz’s jersey is a ransom note. It’s like: ‘I kidnapped your starting QB. It’s me, Carson Wentz.’” - Zach [21:47]
• “Mike Tomlin, you live in your fears. Everyone in the world goes for that, except you.” - PFT [17:49]
• “A.J. Brown condemning a city to hell? Sometimes he just likes to tweet.” - Zach & Max [32:26, 32:47]
• “That’s kind of cheating in my eyes. Eagles should only do the real Tush Push, not a fake.” - PFT [34:10]
• “A Peyton Wilson game ball for that chase down! 61 seconds swung the strategy.” - PFT [20:46]
• “The turtleneck and the bandana work because he’s a winner.” - PFT (on Jackson Dart) [40:32]
• “Saints’ Spencer Rattler: 0-10 as a starter, but he’s not 0-10 bad.” - Zach [55:25]
• Hank’s Flight Fiasco: “Today, the haters won. And I paid for it. A $300 Uber from State College to Pittsburgh.” [15:08]
• Cam Ward Postgame: “We ass. If we’re keeping it a buck, right now? We ass.” [85:35]
• “They only get six home games this year?” [23:48]
• “Who’s Back? Playoff Baseball. The only thing more tortured than the Mets season is Mets fans’ hopes.” - PFT [147:32]
• On Bad Bunny Super Bowl show: “If you have a strong opinion about the Super Bowl halftime show, you’re not a football guy.” - PFT [146:12]

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Notable Running Gags & Sidebar Humor

• Hank’s missing flight story: Including a three-hour Uber, and Max’s chafing and “fat guy move” stories after tailgating [67:22].
• The “tush push” debate: PFT’s call for an “ethics code.”
• Unique stat lines (e.g., Saints’ Rattler, Hurts’ second half).
• Fake commercial reads (DraftKings, Chevy Silverado, Reese’s, GameTime, etc.).
• Who’s Back: Jason Tatum, Bad Bunny, playoff baseball, Zion’s transformation, growing the NFL overseas.
• Big Cat’s foul ball saga: “I think I gave myself credit for catching it, but it hit my chin and I grabbed it.”

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Final Takeaways

• Chiefs are still elite: Mahomes and KC “back to normal” after a brief blip.
• Eagles, Bills looking like NFC and AFC front-runners: Despite some weird quirks, they continue to prevail in the tightest spots.
• Ravens’ defense a red flag: Both panel and stats are not buying a deep playoff run.
• International games: Love the football, hate the scheduling.
• Ryder Cup: Europe’s togetherness > U.S. analytics.
• MLB: Expect the unexpected—and don’t trust Mets optimism.
• Classic Pardon My Take: Insightful football talk, hype, skepticism, and a healthy dose of self-roasting.

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For a full dose of Week 4 NFL analysis, Ryder Cup heartbreak, and playoff baseball hype—plus plenty of quirks, rants, and inside jokes—this episode delivers PMT’s signature blend of sports and comedy.

Transcript

[PFT Commenter]

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[Zach]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Zach]

Well done.

[PFT Commenter]

The game came down to the end and Johnny Carson Wentz made us all laugh again as he completely botched the would be game tying drive. Steelers 24, Vikings 21. Good day.

[Zach]

We go down to Atlanta where Michael Phoenix had pitstomania drinking dark glass but see it grow from a mess. Two capasses Pitts and Drake London Bridge spit roasted Marshawn Latt a moron who left gaping holes in the secondary all afternoon. Meanwhile Father Bijon Misty got his revenge on Kendrick lamarcus Mariota who had a couple really bad releases of his own on the exact same day. Luke Emea McCaffrey was like little white blood cells showing up everywhere on the stat sheet and Debo Uncle Samuel is going to be looking at Jaden and Terry and saying I want you to get your asses back on the field as soon as possible. The Falcons 34 the Commanders 27 in.

[PFT Commenter]

Detroit where I'm starting at the man in Jameera I'm asking him for range. Jake Bates and Joe Flacco could have been any clearer. If you want to make the world a better place. Take a look at yourself and then make a change at quarterback to Dylan Urshadore with a lost fumble and two interceptions. Thank goodness this is flat Colberts last season on the other side, Jared Goff said, let me. Let me show off my game boy, throwing two master balls to Pokemon RA who caught them all, and the Lions continue to hutch and son their opponents, showing the league who is Daddy? You want to call me Daddy? That's why they call me daddy. Lions 34, Browns 10 what we go.

[Zach]

Up to Buffalo, where Carson Winter Rattler was throwing an ungodly amount of wounded ducks again. And in a lovely tribute to Monica Lewinsky, Alvin Kamara Sutra was getting his body bent in some absolutely wild positions by the Bills D James. Tim Cook made sure the Saints saw a lot of screen time getting into an algorithm, and Sean McCurmott was feeling froggy singing why are there so many Josh Allen rainbows that Keon Coleman catches in stride? The Saints don't go marching, but do.

[PFT Commenter]

Cover 31,17 down to max and Zach in Tampa for a combo boomer. We head to steamy Tampa where Sydney.

[Max]

Sweeney Brown gave Eagles fans euphoria as.

[PFT Commenter]

He took a block punt to the.

[Zach]

House and hit the Bucs in the.

[PFT Commenter]

Big Jugzilla to give the Eagles an early lead. Kevin Patulowitzki was looking anything but rocky.

[Zach]

As he was finally getting in his.

[PFT Commenter]

Bag with his playmoke in the first half and Dallas Brodert was the big.

[Max]

Man on campus as he went for.

[Zach]

Two pretty touchdowns early.

[PFT Commenter]

But then the Bucs came marching to the third where Easy Baker Oven Mayfield mixes some egg buka into a sweet, sweet 77 yard touchdown recipe shortly after Jalen Hurt's rental car denies the full coverage insurance on Saquon Breakley before setting the cruise control knowing he'd double park it right into the end zone for six points in an effort to keep it close. As some may say, keep a new hope. Baker, may the Force be with you, used his Jedi mind tricks on the evil Empire Eagles for another touchdown, but it wasn't enough. Sith Lord Saquon and Jabba the Hurts lived to see another win. Eagles 31, Tampa 25 thanks Zach. Thanks Max. We head over to Foxborough, where Hank.

[Zach]

Was there in New England, Marky Mark.

[Hank]

Wahlberg and Jalen Brown joined the prestigious club of Keepers of the Light before the game started. Tommy Treblemaker had the magic in him on a first quarter touchdown before Ryan Edmund Fitzgerald told his teammates, fellas, it's been good to know ya after doinking.

[PFT Commenter]

The extra point, Marcus Jim Jones was.

[Hank]

Flying high no lie after bowling on a 87 yard punt return.

[Zach]

Touchdown.

[Hank]

Drake Mayflower made a second quarter pilgrimage to the end zone and in the third quarter Hunter Henry Lockwood was locked in and on time, catching a 31 year touchdown before Quack Collins ducked into the end zone in the fourth quarter to seal the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Patriots win 42:13 out to the desert where the Vegas lingerie ers put all their faith and Ashton Panty and Max Brosby. But it was Gino Smith who tried to stir up the game and activate Yeast mode only to throw three interceptions, infuriating head coach Pete Carroll. JFK Loeb Williams was wheeling in dealey today, spreading the ball around to the grassy coal comet Jackie Omidis kiss and took a huge shot to the Dome Adunze and now that Lyndon Ben Johnson has taken over the reigns, anything is possible. The Bears 25, the Haters 24 we.

[Zach]

Go over to Kansas City where LA Marvelous Miss Maisel Jackson was taking the top off early, but this new season hasn't been very entertaining recently. Xavier Cringe Worthy was back making the Ravens very uncomfortable and giving them secondary embarrassment. DeAndre3000 Hopkins took a couple hits from some big boys and Ravens then thought their don't stink but lean a little bit closer. See the throws are going to juju. The throws are going to juju. Smith Schuster as the Chiefs built a lead and tick tock tick tock. Lamar goes missing so we don't even see a Jackson Mahomes highlight. Where is that guy Teege huh? The Ravens are one battle after another as Leo DiCaprio Chanel was on an island out there making Lamar's 28 year old hose look way too old and washed up. The Chiefs make it look easy. 37 to 20 standing on the corner Jameis Winston and Hoboken.

[PFT Commenter]

Such a fine sight to see.

[Zach]

It's our ball my Lord and his.

[PFT Commenter]

QB is sore from getting hit by the Giant's dad.

[Zach]

Come on Justin Dart is busing and Dable really likes him.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Zach]

Very.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll, we'll, we'll update that at the end. But we got a lot of great games. We got the NFL starting to take shape. We got two remaining undefeated teams. But let's start with Hank's favorite thing in the world, international football. Which, by the way, before we even get so. Steelers 24, Vikings 21. I think this happened Friday. They announced that they're doing a deal with Brazil. So there's another three years of Brazil games. And then I saw NFL reporter basically said they're getting to a point where they want to have 16 international games a year so that every team has to play abroad once a year.

[Zach]

Here's the problem with the international games. I don't know if we've expressed this particularly in the past, but when, when you have the morning game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

It up your entire day as a functional human being.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Zach]

You wake up early, you, you can't do anything because you're watching the football game. And then guess what? When that football game's over, you have to watch another football game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And then when those football games are over, guess what? You got to watch another football game after that. And then after those football games are over, you get about 30 minutes and then you got to watch another football game. And before you know it, you haven't done anything resembling what a human being normally does in the course of a day. And don't get me wrong, I love football. I'm not going to complain about football because I would suck.

[Hank]

I was like, you're complaining about football?

[Zach]

No, no.

[PFT Commenter]

There's nuance to what he's saying. I agree with what he's saying.

[Zach]

You, it's impossible.

[PFT Commenter]

One less football.

[Zach]

It's important. No, I want the exact same amount of football, but I want it at different times.

[PFT Commenter]

The, the, the morning football, like Sunday morning. There are things that people need to do.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Walk the dog.

[Zach]

Roger Goodell hates church.

[PFT Commenter]

I like to go, you know, go to a diner with My kids go to the park, then they just throw football at us.

[Zach]

Or even, like, think about all the people out there that are hungover. Yeah, Roger doesn't think about that.

[PFT Commenter]

Think about all the people that missed their flight. Roger doesn't think about that.

[Hank]

They can still watch.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, did they? Yeah. So Hank. Hank, Will didn't get to see all the games because he missed his flight this morning. So he'll. He'll chime in. Where? Wherever we see fit. What happened, Hank?

[Hank]

I just had a really early flight and. Sorry. I was watching Jordan lab. I had a really early flight. We had a great time.

[PFT Commenter]

We're two minutes into the.

[Hank]

We had a great. We had a great time at Penn State. It's very hard to get out of the stadium. We were just. We had to tailgate until like 1am just to get home.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And had to. Yep.

[Hank]

I woke up and my alarm was going off and I didn't wake up.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Zach]

But Max, was Max's flight before yours or after yours?

[Hank]

His was after mine. He wasn't staying at the same place as me, and he was flying out of a different airport. Well, he didn't really leave me hanging.

[PFT Commenter]

What would you say to the people who are like, hey, you're a child. Like, who misses a flight?

[Zach]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

You're a grown man with a job with responsibilities, and you missed your flight. What would you say to those people?

[Hank]

I'd say that's a fair point.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Hank]

It's true.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, the haters are right. Yeah. Today.

[Hank]

Today, the haters won.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And I paid for it. I mean, I. I had to buy my own flight, and I had to take a three hour Uber to Pittsburgh.

[Zach]

To get on it, so that's a rough deal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, A three hour Uber. That does suck.

[Zach]

I'm. I'm not going to give Hank a hard time at all, because I know. I know I got one of these in me at some point in my life. It's just a matter of when.

[PFT Commenter]

So, Hank, how many games did you get to watch?

[Hank]

I watched the Patriots game. I had a quad box on with the. The Patriots Commanders Bills. That's pretty much it.

[Max]

Okay, I have a question for you, Hank, about this whole flight situation.

[Hank]

Please. I mean, we're. This is crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, I mean, we wanted to set the stage because we're gonna.

[Max]

I wanted to ask you on the show, did you consider the fact that you. There was one ticket left out of State College and you got that ticket, and then I had. I had to drive an hour and A half to Harrisburg at 5:15 this morning.

[Zach]

Good point.

[Hank]

Yeah, I felt bad. I, I, I, trust me, I wanted to make the flight. I, I, yeah, I wish I could have made it.

[PFT Commenter]

I got a quote for you later that will be appropriate. All right, so that's on you, Max.

[Zach]

For not calling Hank in the morning. Be like, hey, are you your flight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And then, then I could have taken.

[Max]

I could have taken his.

[Zach]

I'm logging on Expedia right now. Tell me when you're canceling.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a tough start Sunday for, for Hank, but he's here now, so. We are though, Steelers. Yeah, we are. No, no, no more. We ares.

[Zach]

We were, we were, we were.

[PFT Commenter]

Steelers 24, Vikings 21. Steelers offense actually looked for real.

[Zach]

Yeah. Kenny Gainwell was doing a good job running the football.

[PFT Commenter]

Got some pop.

[Zach]

Aaron Rodgers a little dinking and Duncan, but he hit that one to dk, who's still very, very fast.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see before he hit that one to dk, he ripped the biggest smelling, ripped assault. Yep. So awesome.

[Zach]

Yeah, it was, it was very cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And you, it like maybe this is what the Steelers offense is going to be is Aaron Rodgers getting the ball out insanely fast. I think I saw the stat. It was 2.17 seconds to throw. He just was whipping it around. Not like a ton of like big time downfield passes, but it didn't matter because the Steelers offense looked better than it has in a while against a good Vikings defense.

[Zach]

Yeah, he, he didn't throw a single pass that went 20 yards downfield.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And I think the only one that went over 15 was to DK.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Caught that on the slant and took it to the house. Yeah, it was, I, I never felt like the Steelers were out of control of this game until the very, very end when Mike Tomlin got into his bird brain and man, I don't think he's ever going to go for in fourth down again.

[PFT Commenter]

So the, the, the moment you're talking about, because I wrote this down as well. Mike Tomlin, one of his favorite quotes to say is we don't live in our fears. Dude, you do live in your fears. You had a fourth and maybe a half a yard on, on the opponent's 39 yard line and you punted.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you punted from there and it worked out because you ended up winning the game. But holy shit, Mike Tomlin, dude, everyone in the world is going for this. Just, just maybe go for it. Well, end the game.

[Zach]

They were, they were going in to score a touchdown. It was what, like fourth and one, fourth and two?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

From somewhere around the five or ten yard line. And then Aaron Rodgers basically had to throw a tantrum on the field to get, like, Tomlin to go for it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

And everybody in the field that we saw a mutiny, There was a mutiny. And Tomlin was like, okay, I guess if my entire offense is going to just stay on the field, there's not a lot that I can do about it. So, okay, you guys have your fun. This better work. And then it didn't work. And then Tomlin's like, I'm never. I'm never going to do that for the rest of my life. That was also the right call because you pinned him back. It was fine. You. You. You wanted to make it into, what, a three score game at the time?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So that would have won the game, but Tomlin will never do that again. But yeah, I felt for the most part like the Steelers were the better team today.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I agree. And. And you could make the argument like, Mike Tomlin is like, hey, we're gonna basically make Carson Wentz go the length of the field against a defensive line that's been dominating. And now the Vikings lost two. Two offensive linemen during the game, Ryan Kelly and Brian o'. Neill. And you could see it like, the Steelers, it felt like every guy was taking a turn getting pressure. TJ Watt was incredible in this game. So, yes, the odds are Carson Wentz is not going to be able to drive the field. And not only did he not drive the field, he had a hilarious final drive, tried to throw like three picks. He had a intentional grounding. He had a delay of game where it was just. He was just standing there. The refs didn't throw the flag for like five seconds because they're like, wait, is this a joke or something?

[Zach]

They're like, we must be wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there's something's got to be wrong. It's been zero for five seconds here, so it all worked out. But still, Mike Tomlin. Yeah, maybe Aaron Rodgers can get into his head. And the Steelers actually debuted their own tush push today, where Aaron Rodgers just stands behind and doesn't do anything, which was hilarious.

[Zach]

Yeah, that was great. He stood perfectly still and just watched. He's like, I'm not getting in there. Fuck that. That shit's scary.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So it did. Do. Do we feel like Carson Wentz maybe turning back into Carson Wentz?

[Zach]

He has become. Yeah, he's. He's always been Carson Wentz.

[PFT Commenter]

He's always been Carson.

[Zach]

He just had A nice. He had a mask on last week.

[PFT Commenter]

He had, he had a Vikings defense that scored, I think twice last week and. And was turning the ball over at will against the Bengals.

[Zach]

He also might be hurt because he had one pass where it looked like he banged his hand pretty bad. And then he. For the next like five minutes, he was just shaking his hand.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

The whole time. If that was J.J. mcCarthy, the Vikings would have been like, get out of the game. Get out of the game, dear. And then we need to protect you.

[PFT Commenter]

And then we're, we're gonna, we're gonna sit you down for four weeks and not tell anyone.

[Zach]

Yeah, but it's. Since his cards, Carson Wentz, they're like, no, please, please stay out there. We have. Otherwise you're going to make us hit the Desmond Ritter button.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no one wants to see that button. Also, we should, we should give. Maybe we start giving out game balls because that's how. What happens, you know, after a game and the coaches give out game balls. Game ball to Peyton Wilson. Because that chase down of Jordan Addison with like three and a half minutes left.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Was insane. And not. And like you're like, all right, well, they send up scoring a touchdown anyway. So for people who weren't able to watch the game, Jordan addison, it's a 10 point game. Jordan Addison catches a ball, has like a. It's like an 80 yard gain. He's basically home free. Peyton Wilson chases him down, tackles him on the five. It ends up being 61 seconds more than the Vikings need to score. The Vikings get the ball back with Carson Wentz with a minute left. They might have gotten the ball back ahead of the two minute warning and had two full minutes to go. Get into field goal range. So Peyton Wilson, you get the PMT game ball. We should start giving out game balls.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That was an incredible play.

[Zach]

It was a great play. Addison. You can't get caught from behind like that, buddy.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. And he. Wilson just didn't give up.

[Zach]

Didn't give up on it.

[PFT Commenter]

Like had it had a. Had to run a lot further with his angle and still. Yeah, like 61. So. So if the Vikings score, there is three minutes and they have a timeout, they probably get the ball back with like 215. Get the two minute warning instead. They got the ball back with one minute. And you saw what happened with Carson Wentz.

[Zach]

You know what really pisses me off about Carson Wentz in the Vikings uniform? This is probably just a Vikings uniform thing, but when you look at his jersey, the two ones for number 11 are. Are different fonts. Yeah, it's like. It's a. His. His jersey is a ransom note. Being like, I kidnapped your starting quarterback. It's me, Carson Wentz.

[PFT Commenter]

It's me.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's very, very strange to look at.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it is strange.

[Max]

Too much slander right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I mean, come on, Max.

[Max]

352 duds.

[Zach]

Max, you called. You were.

[PFT Commenter]

They did have no time to.352. Did have no time.

[Zach]

I'm sick of Max pretending that he doesn't hate him.

[Max]

I don't.

[Zach]

You. You called him a mental.

[Max]

Well, that was then.

[PFT Commenter]

This is now.

[Max]

This is now.

[PFT Commenter]

And also, he's older. He's more mature. He's not your problem. So. Exactly him from afar.

[Max]

Exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. If you're a Vikings fan, you're like, no, I. I don't like him. He wasn't. He wasn't terrible. He was just. The last drive was just very Carson Wentz. We're just like, hey, game online.

[Max]

Yeah, but that's fun. That's fun. That's fun to watch that Carson Wentz.

[Zach]

I do like the Vikings strategy, though. So they're doing back to back games over in Europe. Yeah, but they're doing it back to back. And both of the games, I think, are road games. Yeah, they don't lose a home game.

[PFT Commenter]

I think one of them's got to be a home game, right?

[Zach]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

They. Well, I would be surprised if not. But, yeah, maybe. I don't know. I could be wrong right now. I would assume the second one's a home game. Yeah, the second one's a home game. The Browns. They're playing the Browns. Well, it says verse instead of at, so I think. Are you talk for a second? I'll give us a quick.

[Hank]

I think if it's verse, that means it's.

[Zach]

But on Google, it's Vikings are at the road team. Browns are at the home team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't know. I'm looking on espn. Hold on. Tell us the story. I'm going to count up all their other home games.

[Hank]

Penn State was great.

[PFT Commenter]

The knit.

[Hank]

I mean, biggest. Biggest game I've ever been to. A hundred thousand people. Place was rocking. We were there an hour before and the stadium was 95% full.

[Zach]

Did you rock the white out shirt?

[Hank]

I did rock a white shirt.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they're both technically home games. Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

Wait, so the Vikings are losing.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm counting right now. They have 1, 2.

[Zach]

They only get six home games this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Seven. They. Because, you know, sometimes you get nine yeah. So 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. So one of them's a. One of them's an away game or a home game. Sorry. One of them is a home game.

[Hank]

That makes sense.

[PFT Commenter]

They have eight home games, so that's. That. That makes sense.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Or maybe it's. Maybe it is both way games, but they had eight home games to begin this year. Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah, that might be it.

[PFT Commenter]

That might be it. Happy we got to the bottom of that.

[Zach]

Greg Olson update. He had a Guinness.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

And he talked about Guinness. He was like, I didn't. I didn't much care for it.

[PFT Commenter]

God damn it, dude.

[Zach]

Off this guy. Come on, Greg.

[PFT Commenter]

He's too. He's got two. He's got it all.

[Zach]

Be a man and just be like, I. I drank a beer and I liked it. Do you think JJ McCarthy's ankle got better or worse because of this game?

[PFT Commenter]

Worse because he had to fly all the way across the pond.

[Zach]

But I was going to say maybe a little bit better because Carson Wentz didn't look. I think every loss that they have, his angle, his ankle mysteriously feels a little bit better.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. I would say, like, just actually, like, I still understand why he had to travel.

[Zach]

Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

[PFT Commenter]

Like he just had a baby. Just let him stay at home. You're not going to play him. Yeah, I guess maybe the meetings and stuff. Probably good being around Kevin o'. Connell.

[Zach]

I guess so. But, yeah, you're right. I can't imagine that his wife was too thrilled with that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The other note I had was something about Kansas State. They just get in fights over overseas in Ireland because Skyler Thompson got jumped and robbed.

[Zach]

I saw that.

[PFT Commenter]

That was the graphic. Very funny graphic. Not funny that he got jumped and robbed, but funny to just see Skyler Thompson jumped and robbed.

[Zach]

Did they catch the guys?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. Probably not.

[Zach]

There's a possibility that the guy. That he didn't understand what they were saying to him because the Irish accent, maybe. And then he was like, dude, I can't understand you. Then they took that as an insult.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. This bleacher work graphic. Jumped and robbed.

[Zach]

Yeah. I hope he's okay. I hope he wasn't. I was. I hope he wasn't banged up too much.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess it's better than just robbed and.

[Zach]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Better than just jump.

[Zach]

But if you get robbed. Yeah, I guess you can get robbed and not jumped.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, for sure. You can get robbed and not jumped. And that Would suck because then you probably don't even see the person. And then just getting jumped would also suck because that means they probably beat the fuck out of you.

[Zach]

If I got jumped and not robbed, though, I would probably also say that I got robbed.

[PFT Commenter]

I would rather get. I'd rather just get. Yeah. Jumped in Rob together. Like. I wouldn't want one separate.

[Zach]

Yeah, agreed.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. If you're going to do it, just do them both. Do the combo.

[Zach]

Yeah. What do you think about Aaron Rodgers? He was talking shit about the team travel.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

He was like, I wish we got there earlier in the week. He left and explore some of the. Some of the history around Ireland. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He let they. They landed at like 8am on Friday, which. That does suck.

[Zach]

It does suck. And I would trust any advice Rogers had about how to take a trip.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Big time. Big time. Should I read the quote that is going to hurt us in our argument with Hank or should I not read it?

[Zach]

I prefer you don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, then I won't. Patrick Queen said on the environment in Ireland, it was incredible. I might get a little heat, but it's kind of different than being at home. They were into it the whole game. Every single third down, we could hear them.

[Zach]

Okay, so that's Ireland. I saw that and I was like, fuck, that's Ireland. Which is superior in every way to London.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. So all games in Ireland, we can meet in the middle.

[Zach]

I'm better with Ireland.

[Hank]

You're down.

[Zach]

I'm better with Irish.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I would be okay with that.

[Hank]

All right. That's a comfort.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually don't. I don't.

[Hank]

That's a good.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I'm not okay with that.

[Zach]

I don't know why I said I'm better. I'm better.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't want. It would be better, but I don't want it.

[Zach]

It's closer.

[PFT Commenter]

It would. It is closer. Be awesome. People are nicer.

[Hank]

Be awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Except for the jumped and robbed. As long as you can go to Kansas State.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

You should be okay. Not getting into any fights. Are the Steelers. The Steelers might be. They might be better than. They might be okay.

[Zach]

I think the Steelers are a extremely competent football team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because I was expecting him to lose this game just because I thought the Vikings defense would cause them fits, but. Yeah, they might be okay. I might be. They have. They have a couple tough games coming up.

[Zach]

The defense looked a little bit better, which is exactly what you're hoping for if you're a Steelers fan.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Jalen Ramsey did. Now he Hurt his. His hamstring, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And then came back in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he did hurt his hamstring when he was running.

[Hank]

Well, he. That's karma.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because then he did get hurt. Yeah, he faked it. He did the Hank. He did the Henry Lockwood and then. And then he actually got hurt.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So that's not good.

[Zach]

Should we start finding players for faking injuries?

[PFT Commenter]

Absolutely.

[Zach]

100.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, next up, back to stateside, where football is meant to be played. By the way, the. I want to see the Steelers one more time. I guess next. Their next game's against the Brown. So that's not really a good offensive test. The Vikings offensive line is kind of a disaster right now. And I think that's. That like showed true. Not the Steelers defense doesn't deserve credit. But I'm just saying Vikings offensive line also is kind of a joke.

[Zach]

And so they have to play the Browns in Tottenham.

[PFT Commenter]

No. Right? Yeah. That's. No. The Steelers play the Browns.

[Zach]

Steelers play the Browns.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Back. The Steelers are coming home.

[Zach]

Who do the. Who do the Vikings have?

[PFT Commenter]

Vikings are staying abroad.

[Zach]

Yeah. In Tottenham. They're playing somebody.

[PFT Commenter]

The Vikings are playing the Browns. That's confusing.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[PFT Commenter]

Steelers are on a buy.

[Zach]

Sealers are on a buy. Vikings are playing the Browns in Tottenham.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the Steelers playing the Browns guy in America.

[Zach]

Is desean Watson allowed to travel to England?

[PFT Commenter]

Is he even. Does he even show up? Does he think he shows up to the facility?

[Zach]

I assume he would be because Prince Andrew lives there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's.

[Zach]

They're probably okay. Whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got to stay with him.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Supervision.

[Zach]

Townhouse. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, Next up, Eagles 31, Bucks 25. Eagles do it again. They are undefeated, one of the last two teams undefeated. And it was basically a reverse of last week for the Eagles. They were awesome in the first half, including a. They just block every kick now. They blocked a punt, returned it for. For a touchdown early in the game. And then the second half they were terrible and basically let the Bucks come all the way back into Baker time but then made the. The enough stops to stop Baker time.

[Zach]

Yeah. So. So Jalen Hurts was awesome in the first half.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. He was.

[Zach]

15 to 16, 130 yards, two touchdowns. In the second half, Jalen Hurts was 0 for 8, 0 passing yards, 0 touchdowns. I read that it's the last. It's the only game in the last two years where a team did not complete a second half pass.

[PFT Commenter]

Ooh, wow.

[Zach]

Which is pretty crazy. They still won the Game, So credit to them. They were able to get it done. But, yeah, it was like. It was the exact opposite. There's still. Even when. If Jalen Hurts doesn't throw the football, I think the Eagles could still go, like, I don't know, 8 and 9.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

With zero passing yards.

[Max]

I mean, Saquon had 2.3 yards of carry. Well, how is that even.

[Zach]

I'm also complimenting Jalen Hurts ability to run the ball. Yeah, Max, I'm actually meaning this as like, an Eagles are fucking dominant stat that they don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, he went over 80 yards and still won the game in the second half.

[Max]

It was very. It was great in the first half.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I understand that you have to. You got to be defensive because you're hearing people be like, oh, and I'm always running back. You're always defensive.

[PFT Commenter]

You always are defensive.

[Zach]

You are. But I do mean that as a comp. I think that the eagles could be around.500 if they didn't have to pass the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

The. Max, I got two stats for you. I got a bad stat and a good stat. Okay. All right. Bad stat is. That was actually only the second time since 1991 that a quarterback has had zero passing yards with at least eight pass attempts in the second half and won the game. Jake Delome was the other one. In 2008, he went.09 for zero yards, so that's how rare it happens. Here's the good stat, Max. Jalen Hurts has now won 18 straight games that he started and finished. And the only other guys who've done that are Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and now Jalen Hurts.

[Max]

It's pretty good. Pretty good stat.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty good company.

[Zach]

It'll be a.

[Max]

It'll be a full calendar year by the time that he plays next week.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy. Yep. So. And then we also had, of course, AJ Brown after the game with a weird tweet. So. What. Where do you. Are they?

[Max]

Okay, I. A.J. brown can do whatever. He's done it so many times.

[PFT Commenter]

He said, if you're not welcomed, not listened to, quietly withdraw. Don't make a scene, shrug your shoulders and be on your way. Huh?

[Zach]

It is a Bible verse. Yeah, I looked up the Bible verse.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Zach]

It's in regards to Jesus instructing his disciples that if nobody listens to your message, shrug your shoulders, move on. And also, that city is condemned to hell.

[PFT Commenter]

That part's not good.

[Zach]

So who is. Who is A.J. brown condemning to hell in this message?

[Max]

Sometimes he just likes to say shit yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Sometimes you just like to tweet.

[Zach]

Yeah, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Just throw it out there.

[Zach]

It wants to get some interactions.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes people just do that.

[Max]

He just won a Super Bowl. They're 4.

[PFT Commenter]

0.

[Max]

He makes a lot of money.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you? Okay, so I agree with all of that, but do you not, like, would you prefer A.J. brown to just not do this?

[Max]

I don't care.

[Zach]

He did it all last year.

[Max]

He won a Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. That's a good point. That's a really good point.

[Zach]

I got a question for you, Max. Is Nick Sirianni. Is he, like. Is he trolling the rest of the league with the new tush pushes now?

[Max]

That was a good one.

[PFT Commenter]

That one.

[Max]

That one.

[Zach]

It's pretty funny. He's, like, doing different varieties of it. He's like, hey, we can beat you a couple different ways in the tush push.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you talking about the fake one?

[Zach]

Yeah, the fake one I got to take.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that should be illegal for the Eagles to do. I do believe the real tush push, they should not be allowed to do fakes.

[Zach]

It's like an onside kick. You have to declare tush push.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's just. It's just like a. It's kind of like a. An ethics code. Like, you. You are better than everyone at the Tush Push. Do the tush push. Don't do the fake tush push. That's almost cheating in my eyes. Yeah. Everyone else could do a fake touch push because they can't do the tush push like you guys can. But the fake. Like, that would be funny if the legal met in this in the spring, and they're like, tush push stays. Fake tush push for the Eagles. Gone. Can't do it. If you're going to line up that way, you got to just do it. Yeah.

[Max]

Too good.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you agree?

[Max]

Sure. I mean, no, I don't agree.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. But it is kind of cheating. Yeah.

[Max]

There was a point today where I thought that the. The league was going to try and ban blocked kicks. If we just block.

[PFT Commenter]

If.

[Zach]

I thought we were good. Yeah.

[Max]

I thought we were just going to block every kick for the rest of time, and then people are going to be like, well, we got to fix this, because the Eagles can't just keep blocking kicks.

[PFT Commenter]

So the next time they punted when you. Well, then. Yeah.

[Max]

Well. But it was three in a row.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So actually that was good for the Eagles to not block the next one.

[Max]

Right. Because then they would throw them off.

[Zach]

The center a little bit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

We, we have to use it sparingly.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Zach, how are you feeling about the Bucks? Because it feels like, like the Bucks got back in this game. There was some awesome. Baker hit buka. Bucky Irving had a big, big touchdown. It. It feels like the Bucks only do their. They're basically the biggest procrastinators in the NFL. They just wait till the, till five minutes left in the fourth quarter and they're like, fuck, we gotta, we gotta actually try to win this game. And they kind of ran out of plays today because they flew too close to the sun and it was, you know, too many mistakes throughout the game. I listen, I think it's, it's hard when the tone gets set early on a block, block kick taken back to the house like that just kind of throws everything out of whack. I think we did good stopping the run today, but we showed today that we can't, you can't just push everything off until like the last three minutes of a game. Yeah. You can get away with that with a lot of teams. Eagles aren't going to be one of those teams. I still feel very good about where we're at as a team. It just wasn't our day. It is kind of nice that like especially when the Bucks play early in the early slate, it's almost like the clock hits witching hour when Baker does a scramble and then talk shit in someone's face. When the Bucks are down a score and they need a first down really badly, it's almost a sign like, oh shit, we're ready to pop off.

[Zach]

Yeah. And they are, they're trying to run the ball, but they're, they're clearly limited as to what they can do with that offensive line right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So they're still like in theory we're going to try to give Bucky Irving some carries and try to at least like establish a threat of running running game. But I don't think that it's taken too seriously.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Because they're just, they're so banged up on that offensive line right now and.

[PFT Commenter]

It'S basically all roads in every game that Bucks play lead to Baker having the ball with like three minutes left. Needing to score.

[Zach]

Game plan is just wait for Baker to anamorph into a dog.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And it was basically just the Bucks made too many mistakes, a block punt. But it was also like they, their defense did a great job in the second half. The only time the Eagles scored, which was ended up being the game winning touchdown, was because Bucky Irving Fumbled and gave them a short field. And they were able to score off that.

[Zach]

Yep. And also Chase McLaughlin hit. I think it was the longest outdoor field goal in the history of the NFL.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

65 yards. Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach and I were the only two people in the cave who said he was going to make it.

[Zach]

It was a crazy kick. It was max. It was super low. You probably could have brought actually max. That I'm beginning to buy into the theory that maybe the Eagles didn't block that one on purpose so the league would get off their ass about it. That was a really low.

[Max]

Well, yeah, they thought that. Well, they thought that maybe they didn't have to block it, that he was just going to miss it.

[Zach]

Yeah. Nobody really rushed up the middle on that one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

So overall, you're. You're okay. Three and one. You got to get healthy.

[Zach]

I feel okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Get the losses out of the way early. I didn't feel the best about Baker making that throw. And with the interception there, I think you got to throw that one away.

[Max]

That hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

But other than. I feel good. Yeah. There was a lot of Eagles fans down. Down in. In Tampa when. When Cooper De Jean made a big play and everyone. And you could hear the Coop.

[Zach]

How'd you feel about that sun? There was a crazy shade situation that the Eagles were pulling off.

[PFT Commenter]

What's your guys thoughts on the Eagles having guys hold the shades the entire game instead of just getting like some.

[Zach]

Poles to hold them? Exactly. You got to get some poles.

[PFT Commenter]

I would have just built like a.

[Zach]

Grease them up.

[PFT Commenter]

I would have built like a. I would have put an actual RV on the sideline with air conditioning. Yeah.

[Max]

Or those misters.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Or the miss.

[Max]

The misters are nice.

[Zach]

You think Big Dom doesn't have a pole guy that he can hit up in? Tampa is probably actually the number one pole city in the world.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Now we're on Venus.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Max]

The Eagle sideline blue collar. They don't need. They don't need fancy machines to get.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but think about how awesome that air conditioning would hit. There's nothing better than just being so sweaty and getting that wave of air conditioning right in your face.

[Zach]

Face.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, incredible.

[Zach]

Who was it that was. Was it just like a. An assistant quality control guy, I believe.

[Max]

I'm not familiar with. With the fine gentleman that were holding it.

[PFT Commenter]

You weren't familiar with his game, but they were.

[Max]

I mean, they. They were the MVPs today, you could argue.

[Zach]

I feel like.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they could have been NFL staff because they weren't wearing Eagles gear. They were just wearing NFL branded gear. Maybe they were. Yeah, that's a good call. Either way, congrats on four and. Oh, Max, are you thinking you got to get a loss at some point to get the hunger back?

[Max]

No, I want to win every single game forever.

[PFT Commenter]

Who do you have next?

[Max]

That would be the Broncos. Oh, Eagle schedule so hard.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I'm looking right now. You have the Broncos, Giants and Vikings in the next. Yeah, but then four weeks, that's. That's all you're playing.

[Zach]

Then after that you get the Giants again.

[Max]

And then packers and Lions.

[Zach]

Packers, Lions.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Cowboys or not.

[Max]

And then the Bears. Bears are back.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe. Who knows? We'll see what. What we are then. I wouldn't say it's the hardest schedule.

[Zach]

It's not easy.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not easy. But hey, everyone, they pay. Everyone there, you know.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Max]

Just keep winning.

[PFT Commenter]

Just gotta keep winning. Okay. Speaking of Giants 21, Chargers 18. Jackson Dart. It happened. He arrived. 75 yard touchdown drive to start the game. This was so mean to Giants fans that they got a quarterback that it was kind of actually reminiscent of Dan. Remember Danny Dimes first game? I think it was in Tampa. And finally the vibes are back for the Giants. And then Malik neighbors tears. Acl.

[Zach]

That was a big bummer.

[PFT Commenter]

Such a bummer.

[Zach]

Big bummer. It was obviously very painful. It led a lot of people to start talking about the field at MetLife, which I, I did not realize that that field had claimed so many knees and.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it's crazy.

[Zach]

And ankles and Achilles over the last few years.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh yeah.

[Zach]

Since like 2020. It's been on quite a run. Yes, it's. It's been pretty bad there. But they're not going to change it to grass. No, they're just not. They like hosting concerts there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

That, that's what needs to happen is musicians need to start being like, we're not going to play shows at artificial grass.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

It has to be real grass. It's bad for our audience's knees.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And then the owners will start doing it finally. But yeah, besides that, which is obviously a big bummer for the Giants. They got to be super excited about having dart.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And because he's exciting.

[PFT Commenter]

I gotta say, the Jackson dart. I know we had this conversation last week, but the turtleneck and the bandana, it works because he's a winner.

[Zach]

I think he might be a wild boy.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a winner. And like that it. And he's wearing like the cool guy glasses after, you know, not the reading glasses, but just whatever Glasses, like Zach's glasses, but he doesn't need them. Yeah, the cool guy glasses.

[Zach]

I also, I just really love the duo of Dart and Scatter together. They make a very funny combination. It's like Timone and Pumbaa, but in.

[PFT Commenter]

Real life, exciting whites.

[Zach]

Yeah. Exciting whites. It's like, yeah. Like Hank and Max together.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But yeah, this was, this is a fun game for the Giants. They, they, they played well. Jackson dart like he didn't light up the world, but he did what Russell Wilson couldn't do. He kept them out of bad situations. He moved the ball like, you know, use his feet. It felt like he made the throws he needed to make. The offense finally had a little pop. And then on the other side, the Giants defense, that's where all these like, you know, high draft picks and big time impact players that they've been taking it started to really show up today because they were wrecking Justin Herbert and I know Joe Alt went out, but they had 47.7% pressure on, on Justin Herbert. Dropbacks to the point where Jim Harbaugh said afterward he's taking too many hits. So that was like this was the Giant, this. Abdul Carter said it after the game. He said the future is now talking about him and Jackson Dart. And if you're a Giants fan, you got to be pretty pumped about this win because you're like, holy shit. This defense might be legit and we might have a quarterback.

[Zach]

Yeah, Abdul Carter had, this was his breakout game. Eight pressures. I think he had a sack, too. Might have been his first full sack.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. In the NFL they got some fucking dudes on the line.

[Zach]

Brian Burns, six pressures. Thibodeau had six pressures. So yeah, they were, they were lighting them up. And that, that actually drops Harbaugh's record against rookie quarterbacks to eight and three. And this is first loss against a rookie quarterback with the Chargers. But yeah, the defense was like the real story.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And then obviously it's nice to see some excitement. The only thing I'm worried about with, with dart swagginess, the chain might get stolen from at some point.

[PFT Commenter]

Snatched.

[Zach]

It might get Ireland there, there might be.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, he went to Ole Miss.

[Zach]

Yeah. I think if it's just like against somebody that's got sticky mitts, like some, some team is going to put a bounty on that chain.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

At some point.

[PFT Commenter]

Do they play the Broncos? See, I think definitely would do that.

[Zach]

I think they play against.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, they do.

[Zach]

AFC West. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I don't know. So the Chargers, this is just the NFL, you know, it's week to week. You had an oh and three team versus three and oh team. Chargers couldn't have looked better. Giants couldn't have looked worse. Go to New York, win. I would say the Chargers. It doesn't feel like Justin Herbert's been so good. And it's been a revelation the first three games this season to be like Justin Herbert. They're letting him actually, you know, put the offense in his hands. Maybe this pendulum needs to swing a little bit back because they threw the ball 41 times and had 13 rushes overall. Omari and Hampton had 12 rushes for 128 yards. Just 12 rushes, though. And I think like, they probably have to do a little bit more of a balance, but they're also dealing with a lot of offensive line injuries. So I, I just give more. This gate take away from this game was more like the Giants. This was a Giants win and it was a Giants like they've not arrived. But for the first time in a long time, Giants fans have something to be excited about. Yeah.

[Zach]

And. And Brian Dable is probably more excited than almost every single Giants fan.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, the way he hugged Jackson Dart after the game. That was a hug of someone who saves your, saved your life. Who found your dog and brought it back to you.

[Zach]

It was a longing embrace.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Like we're going to be together forever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

He's like a little maybe, Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Tell me. Yeah, we are. Right.

[Zach]

He's love bombing him.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, you're going to make sure that I'm here. Right.

[Zach]

Abel is going to Send him like 20 texts tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Be like, hey, I got you that reservation. No worries. This is. He is so excited to have a guy that could potentially save his job. Memes put me onto this. There was a report after the game from, I believe this was from an AP reporter or a newspaper guy said Jackson Dart was among the few players remaining in the Giants locker room. You could tell he was sore, the way he moved from the far corner showers to his stall, how he now stood collecting himself those six sacks. Ten hits by the Chargers defense radiated over him. That's when Brian Dable joined his quarterback. The two had already embraced each other on the field, but this was different. It was quieter now, less around. Dable reached his hand out, grabbed the back of Dart's neck and brought him close. They held each other. Dable then walked away with a smile. This felt like the start of something.

[PFT Commenter]

So that was just written by license plate guy, right?

[Zach]

Probably like he didn't even.

[PFT Commenter]

He wasn't Even in the locker room. He just wrote what it would look like if I were in the locker room.

[Zach]

Yeah. Could you put like, maybe like a little bit of, like, romantic music underneath that? I think that would go really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's perfect. It's a true love story. And also shout out Jackson dart. Kind of nice. Him. He kept on. He kept on giving a shout out to Russell Wilson. He's like. He was. He was awesome. He was in my corner, helped me, you know. This has been a crazy week. Good, good job, Russie. Russie's not a great week for him, but good job being a good teammate.

[Zach]

Russie got in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Completed. Nice pass. He did manage that third and long really well.

[PFT Commenter]

He was part of a win.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay. Before we get to the next game, Hank, want to pull up? We're going to talk game time real quick. The NFL is back. Maybe find us some tickets for tonight. The NFL is back. Tailgates pack stands that buzz before kickoff. But getting in nightmare queues, price jumps, getting logged out mid click. All you want is to be there, beer in hand, losing your voice with the crowd. And the game time app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use. The game time guarantee means you can Trust you'll get 100 authentic tickets on time and at the best price. Plus fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. We're looking at tickets for the jets.

[Hank]

At the Dolphins tonight. Cheap tickets you can get in the stadium for $37.

[PFT Commenter]

$37. So that's an amazing deal on game time. Take the guest. We're going to buying NFL tickets with game time. Download the game time app. Create an account use code pmt for 20 off. Your first purchase terms apply. Again, create an account redeem code pmt for 20%. $20 off. Sorry. Swipe, tap ticket. Go download the game time app today. Okay. Falcons 34. Commanders 27.

[Zach]

Yep. I need. I need Jaden back so bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What's up with jaden and Terry McLaurin?

[Zach]

Terry? I'm still more concerned about Terry. I think Jaden would have played today if it was a playoff game, but they don't want to risk it this early in the season. But at some point you got to take the bubble wrap off.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to play.

[Zach]

You got to play football. Hey, football players, that's what they do. They play football well.

[PFT Commenter]

So you can't. This was so. This game. Let me first say the Falcons. If you're a Falcons fan, this was the first time where it all. It all happened. And when I say it all happened, I'm talking about Bijan. 181 yards, total yards from scrimmage and a touchdown. Drake London, eight catches for 110 yards and a touchdown. Kyle Pitts, five catches for 70 yards and a touchdown. Michael Penix, 313 yards. It all happened. That was exactly. If you're a Falcons fan, you're like, we have all these guys. Let's use these guys. We want to see these guys be these guys. It finally all happened.

[Zach]

Yeah. I mean, the story is not like Marcus Mariota was not the problem for the commanders today. The problem was the defense just got gashed and the Falcon skill players, bigger, stronger, faster across the board.

[PFT Commenter]

Bijan's so good.

[Zach]

Bijan's very good. Frankie Louvre was the only one that was playing with a good amount of speed and effort. Well, I don't say effort, but he was the only one that was. That looked like he was fast enough to hang with those guys at that position. I'm not sure Marshawn Lattimore is good. He might not be good.

[PFT Commenter]

He might be a little.

[Zach]

It might also be the scheme. And we're playing a lot of zone. We got a lot of old guys. We're the oldest team in the league by a considerable margin. We got a lot of old dudes out there that can't keep up with tight ends, have trouble in the zone coverage, and some of that makes Lattimore look bad when he's late getting to his guy. But he might not be good. And that's. That's a reality that I'm having to deal with at this point. So please respect my privacy at this time as I work my way through this.

[PFT Commenter]

What did you trade for him?

[Zach]

It probably wasn't even really all that much.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I actually don't remember.

[Zach]

It wasn't. I don't think it was a second rounder. It was like a second rounder. Yeah. But again, that's what you need to get younger, is you need draft picks to get younger.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And Ron Rivera did. I don't think there's a single guy on this defense. No, that's not true. Pain Payne, a tackle. He's still a pretty good player, but. Yeah. We just whiffed on so many draft picks throughout the years that our defense is super old.

[PFT Commenter]

Is where Emmanuel Forbes would have been.

[Zach]

Oh, Emmanuel Forbes.

[PFT Commenter]

If he was good.

[Zach]

Yeah. It would have been great, right? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. When you miss on A cornerback, then you have to go get another one.

[Zach]

Yeah, but the defense was not good today. The Falcons offense was great. They. Everything was easy for them and they were hitting their guys in space.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach Robinson coming down to the sideline.

[Zach]

It worked.

[PFT Commenter]

Helped everything in Michael Penix like this was the bounce back game you needed to see after losing to the Panthers the way they lost to the Panthers. He was great. He was spraying it everywhere and like I said, he hit the. Got like the guys that you've drafted in, the big names all had an impact and that's got to make you excited if you're a Falcons fan.

[Zach]

Yeah, I shouldn't have talked shit about Michael Penix not winning a single game where the other team scores more than seven points last week. Yeah, that one really came back to bite me in the dick.

[PFT Commenter]

I do think that Jaden being in this game obviously would have changed. Not that Marcus Mariota was bad, but 1 for 8 on third down, that feels like something that wouldn't happen to Jaden Daniels.

[Zach]

No, no, it wouldn't. I mean, if you look at their percentage from last year and use that as any indication, if it even approaches that, then it's a different ball game.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Zach]

But yeah, it felt, it felt like one team was really, really fast and competent on offense and one team's defense just could not get off the field ever. So it's a bummer. It was a bummer of a game for me.

[PFT Commenter]

Where are you at overall?

[Zach]

Overall, I'm. I still.

[PFT Commenter]

Get Jaden back.

[Zach]

Yeah, get Jaden back. Let's talk about it when Jaden gets back. I think Marcus Mariota, he's a good backup. I'll stand by that. He went 50, 51, one, lost one. But yeah, in order to get like really excited about this team, I'm gonna need Jaden back out there.

[PFT Commenter]

What, what about the next week? Must win, can't lose.

[Zach]

This is must win next week.

[PFT Commenter]

Must win.

[Zach]

Must win. Must win at the Chargers.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Zach]

And I wish that the Chargers had won against the Giants because.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because now they're going to be hungry again.

[Zach]

It's like the, the Falcons lost to the Panthers last week. That put me in a bad situation because now this is a hungry Falcons team.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Zach]

Harbaugh is going to have a tough week of practice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Physical week of practice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

But yeah, Jaden should be back next week. Besides that, I don't know that I can take too much out of this. Besides the fact that I'm not. I don't think I'm going to reach A point this year where I'll be able to trust this defense.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you. It did feel like there was that one drive late in the game where the Falcons were just getting everything they wanted on the ground.

[Zach]

Yeah, it was easy.

[PFT Commenter]

And it was like they. The commanders, knew they were running. The Falcons knew they were running. Everyone in the stadium knew they were running, and they still ran the ball.

[Zach]

Yeah, it was. It was very easy for the Falcons at times. But, yeah, Credit to. Credit to Kyle Pitts. Played a great game. I never stopped believing Kyle Pitts.

[PFT Commenter]

Kyle Pitts. He. Remember his. His touchdowns go up by one every single year.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know what he's at this year so far. It might have been his first.

[Zach]

Yeah. I think that the commanders are exactly what I've thought that they were, which is like a good, not great team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And when you have a good, not great team and you don't have your starting quarterback, then that's. That's going to be a problem against pretty much anybody.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. You need. You need Jayden Daniels back.

[Zach]

Need Dan Quinn to get lit up on the sidelines to wake him up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that too. Big time. He had some fire today.

[Zach]

He did.

[PFT Commenter]

He had. He had some moments. You turned your hat backwards.

[Zach]

I did.

[PFT Commenter]

He was so pumped up.

[Zach]

He was in his Danalytics. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He was going. He was going kind of crazy, which was. Was fun to see. Hank, did you see any of this game? Yeah. And where. What. Where were you when you were watching this?

[Hank]

I was watching this game in the Uber and in the airport on the quad box on my phone. YouTube TV. Shout out to YouTube TV. Great for being on the road. Commanders look bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Bad.

[Hank]

But like you said, there's not. You can't put a whole lot into it without starting qb.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, you can't. It's. You need Jane Daniels back. And it was more like I said, the Falcons. If you're a Falcons fan, this is. You put this tape on and you're like, this could be the future. Holy. All these guys are for real.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is an awesome feeling.

[Zach]

It's crazy because our special teams, we're like, super fast, super physical, and then none of that translates over to defense. I think we just. We need to have our special teams start to play defense for us.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

That's the answer to it. Also, shout out Luke McCaffrey. That's.

[PFT Commenter]

Love them.

[Zach]

That's one thing. Marcus Mariota's unlocked. Luke. I'm gonna need Jaden to watch that film. Be like, Luke's a Weapon.

[PFT Commenter]

There was a.

[Zach]

Let's get him the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Funny moment in the cave where PFD was like, all the haters of Luke McCaffrey.

[Zach]

I was like, no, I've kept.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know if anyone's. And then he pointed out that we didn't compliment his Luke McCaffrey jersey enough.

[Max]

I think he said, you guys woke up. No one was talking about.

[Zach]

He heard everything you said. And yeah, Big Cat was like, yeah, who doubted Luke? And I said, well, when I got my Luke McCaffrey salute to service jersey last year, you guys weren't really that impressed with it.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think we said anything, which.

[Zach]

Is, yeah, that's hey, that's hey Jerry jersey. Jerry was the only one that respected the salute to service. Yep. So also Debo looked awesome. Great game again. So I, I think once Jaden gets back, he's got enough weapons. The offensive line looked okay today. I, I think it's going to be a much, much different team when Jane gets, gets back out there. But the defense is never really. I don't think we're going to reach a point this year where I'm going to ever fully trust them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's fair. Okay, next up, bill Saints. Bill's 31, Saints 19. This game was actually kind of close. For a minute it was a two point game and then Josh Allen was like, oh yeah, I'm Josh Allen. I'm playing the Saints. And he had that. I think it was like a 27 yard scramble. And then the very next play threw a touchdown Adult and Kincaid to make it a nine point game. And I, yeah, I mean it was. Listen, it was closer than I think we all thought. They pay them too. It really came down. The Saints had two moments. The Chris Olave interception, which Spencer Rattler could. He can do it himself. He can throw an interception himself. Why'd you have someone else do it?

[Zach]

Yeah, good point. Spencer's also oh and 10 now as a starting quarterback, but I don't think He's. He's not 010 bad.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Zach]

As a quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

No. I think the Saints might be 0.

[Zach]

And 10 bad because Owen 10 bad is really bad. Hank's giving a look like, ah, he might be oh and 10. I don't, I don't think you realize how bad like Desean Kaiser. He's. Owen 10. He's 0 and 15 bad. Oh and 10 bad. Spencer Rattler does not fall into that same category.

[Hank]

Well, he's 0 and 10.

[Zach]

He is, but he's not 010 bad.

[Hank]

He's well, what, 2 and 8?

[Zach]

Yeah. No, that's exactly right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'd say 1 in 9. I'd say he's 1 in 9 bad. I think should have lucked into a win at some point.

[Zach]

Maybe against the Panthers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there should have been a win.

[Zach]

Yeah. Also, today was his birthday.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Zach]

He said it's frustrating because we're in these games, we got to close them out. You want a birthday W. Oh. So Spencer Rattler.

[PFT Commenter]

So not not only is his birthday, but he had to remind everyone it's his birthday.

[Zach]

Yeah. He was really hoping for a birthday W. But you're right about Josh Allen. I think Josh is doing a good job of saving his true fuck it moments.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Until he has to use them, because otherwise you use all your it moments.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And he had a pick early in the first half that kept this game close. But, yeah, was like, oh, wait, I. I forgot. I. I'm Josh Allen. I'm better than everyone on the field. Let me just end this game right now. Yeah. In two plays.

[Zach]

I've seen it a couple times this year where he thinks about going it, but then he's like, I'll save the. I'll just edge myself.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Zach]

And then when the it moment happens, it's going to be even more explosive.

[PFT Commenter]

Right, Right. Exactly. I love watching James Cook run the football. He's so good. He's. I don't know if he's underrated or properly rated, but he needs to be talked about more. I looked at. I look back through it. So since last year, since the start of last season, including playoffs, James Cook has 2093 total yards from scrimmage and 26 touchdowns. He has a touchdown. In eight straight games this season, he started with every single game he's had a touchdown and at least 100 yards from scrimmage. He's awesome.

[Zach]

And so this was eight straight for him, which passes O.J. simpson.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So he now has the longest streak of any Bills player.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So I. I just. I just want to respect James Cook more because I just love watching him run and he's. He's the dreads.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I like. I like. I like watching, you know, like, a guy be able to, like, burst through, like, the line, and he's got his dreads going in the wind. Like Dalvin.

[Zach]

I like that a lot. I just don't like when you get two. Two guys with dreads on the same team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Like Dalvin and Madison.

[Zach]

Madison. Then you get confused.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But, yeah, the Saints are it's. Sad. I don't know. I will say this about the Bills if we're going to be fair here. Their rush defense is bad, and I know they need Ed Oliver and Matt Milano back.

[Zach]

Those are two big pieces.

[PFT Commenter]

Two big pieces. But they gave up 189 yards to the Saints today. 165 after contact. Yeah, that's not good tackling.

[Zach]

No. I think especially at Oliver solves, he gets a lot of that for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Matt Milano, too. Like, it definitely is a combo. But I'm just saying, like, that's. That's something that probably needs some fixing, especially as they get later, because I feel like the Bills, they played the Ravens, that incredible Ravens, Week one, then the last three weeks, they've been playing lesser than opponents. If you look at their schedule, I don't think they have a game that they won't be favored by a significant margin until the Chiefs game in a few weeks. Oh, my God. The Cowboys are going to do this. George Pickens. Touchdown. George Pickens.

[Zach]

Too much.

[PFT Commenter]

That was crazy. We'll get to the end of this game, but that was nuts.

[Zach]

I feel like this is. This is the meme. This is the guy that's in the Cowboys stands being like they're cheering like they just won the game. Memes. You know that one? Oh, Hank. Yeah. You remember that one?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I put Packers.

[Zach]

Yeah, exactly. That's what's happening right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Without Aaron Rodgers.

[PFT Commenter]

That was crazy that they just went down the field like that. It is like, easy, easy. What are you. What are you looking at? Max, what do you think?

[Max]

Was George Pickens just waving goodbye to the packers with.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Max]

The 43 seconds left and three timeouts.

[PFT Commenter]

Three timeouts.

[Max]

Did you. Did. Did you see that? Was I looking at that correctly?

[Zach]

They're going to be down three points.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. They. This. They are very much.

[Hank]

They just won the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They are acting like they won the game, but there's a lot of game left. There's a lot of game left. All right. Anything else, Bill? Saints.

[Zach]

No, I mean, the Bills, they're just.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So let's look at.

[Zach]

I'm looking at their schedule.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Who do they have? Because I looked at the other day and it's like pretty much not that they can't lose a game because again, they were in. The Saints were in this game in the fourth quarter, but they're going to.

[Zach]

Be favored in every game that they have.

[PFT Commenter]

So they're playing the Patriots. I'll be a good litmus test for The Patriots. They're playing the Falcons, the Panthers and then the Chiefs game.

[Hank]

Whose lines anyway? For the Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

So that is going to be Sunday Night Football next week. That's going to be in Buffalo.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah, In Buffalo.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. You're right. I'm gonna say bills minus six and a half.

[Zach]

I'll just go with. I'll just go with six.

[Hank]

DraftKings Sportsbook DraftKings Sportsbook the bills are minus eight and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Juicy. Yeah. Oh, you gonna do it?

[Hank]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, are you gonna do it?

[Zach]

Adventures of Drake and Josh.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Zach]

Where are you gonna do it?

[Hank]

I'm gonna do it on the DraftKings sports.

[PFT Commenter]

There you go. All right, let's talk about The Patriots. Patriots 42, Panthers 13. That was an ass kicking. Yeah, a full on ass kicking. The Panthers scored on their opening drive. The Patriots then rattled off 42 unanswered points. Holy shit. That was an ass kick.

[Zach]

Drake May from the Charlotte area. Cam Newton was his favorite player. He got into the end zone, did the Superman.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

Did the Cam Newton celebration. You knew that Drake May was going to just tuck it and run in one of them. He. He knew he had to hit the Cam, but yeah, great job, Hank. No fumbles.

[Hank]

No fumbles. I think he had a basically perfect passer reading.

[Zach]

He's.

[Hank]

He's played really well this entire year, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

He's been so. Drake May has three straight games with 75% plus completion percentage and two touchdown passes. He's been awesome. Yeah, he was super efficient.

[Hank]

Christian Gonzalez was back making some plays. Good to have him back. That's good. Good for the defense.

[PFT Commenter]

Stephon Diggs is back, Stefan Diggs, big time. And he's been playing, but now he's back playing well. Yeah. And then also your Marcus Jones punt returning is electric. He had an 87 yard punt return for a touchdown. Then he almost returned another one. He had three punt returns for 167 yards.

[Zach]

Big head on that stat that you said where it's three straight games for Drake may with a 75% completion percentage and two or more touchdown passes. There's only one other guy that's ever done that, Tommy. Tom Brady. Good company, 2007.

[Hank]

Great company.

[PFT Commenter]

There you go.

[Zach]

Do you got another one?

[Hank]

I mean, we got a long ways to go, but he's, he's, he has signs. He plays better in year two than Brady did.

[Zach]

Yep, that's true.

[PFT Commenter]

It didn't, I guess after winning a Super Bowl.

[Hank]

You mean Brady. Year two was super bowl win, but he wasn't sophomore Slump lighting it up as the quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean he looks good. He looks really good.

[Zach]

How travy on Henderson look?

[Hank]

He looked good. He scored.

[Zach]

Interesting. No, we talked about that last week. I, I said that he, he needs to make an impact and he's a dynamic player and some people said that maybe he wasn't.

[PFT Commenter]

Who didn't? Who said that? Was it memes?

[Zach]

I think it was Max.

[Max]

Oh, he had 32 yards.

[Zach]

Did he have a touchdown?

[Max]

Okay, it's 32 yards.

[Zach]

Did he look good? Can he fumble?

[PFT Commenter]

32 yards?

[Max]

He did not fumble.

[PFT Commenter]

32 yards is a lot of yards. Yeah. People were saying, guys like us, it's a lot of yards.

[Hank]

I said it was a get right game going into this game and I had people being like, you've, it's not a get right game. It's two shitty teams. Like the Patriots would be lucky to win. And I was happy that it was in fact a get right game. And, and you know, we got a huge game on Sunday now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean the, the, the Panthers.

[Hank]

Have had the, we went on Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, what, what are you gonna do?

[Hank]

I'm gonna be insufferable.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Soupy, no soup. Not you. Best team on the show if you win Sunday.

[Zach]

Are you back in on that?

[Max]

If we win Sunday?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

Explain to me how they would be the best team on this show.

[Hank]

Eagles have a hard schedule.

[PFT Commenter]

He got you there. He got you there. Yeah. The.

[Zach]

Hank, I have a question for you.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Who would you rather. Let's just say that you had a random NFL team, right, composed of like exactly average players at every position on offense?

[Hank]

Brandon Aubrey.

[Zach]

Who would you rather. Who would you rather have at quarterback for the next guy?

[Max]

That was good. Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank.

[Max]

Hank's doing well right now.

[PFT Commenter]

A little loopy. I like him. I like him.

[Zach]

Who would you rather have at quarterback for the next 15 years, Drake may or Jalen Hurts?

[Hank]

Drake May.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, but Jalen Hurts has won a Super Bowl. Didn't throw any for any yards in the second half, but he has one.

[Hank]

Super, he has Drake Maze. Younger though. And I, I, I ride with my guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Zach]

Think about Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

He rides with his guys. Yeah.

[Zach]

Even stuff if he asks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He's a guy. Right. Where did you watch this game?

[Hank]

Same place I watched the Commander.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Uber.

[Hank]

Uber Airport.

[PFT Commenter]

What? So what time was your flight?

[Hank]

My flight was at 4 o'. Clock.

[PFT Commenter]

No, what time was your first flight?

[Hank]

6:15 or 6:30.

[PFT Commenter]

And what time did you wake up?

[Hank]

7.

[Zach]

Your alarm was going off when you woke up.

[Hank]

My alarm Was going off.

[Zach]

So it had been going off for 45 minutes?

[Hank]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, and what was your thought process at that moment?

[Hank]

Well, I knew we had looked into the flights when we. When we booked them, and there was like, none. So I woke up and I think I texted you guys, like, see you guys next week. Like, I'm never getting home. Like, I. I knew that I was in a bad spot because, like, there was no. No flights from State College, no flights from Harrisburg, and that's why I ended up going to Pittsburgh.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What'd you learn on the. On the Uber slash airport?

[Hank]

I learned about the Uber drivers, how Uber has been charging people more money and paying the drivers less. My driver was really fired up about that. Really beautiful view. Very, very scenic. A lot of mountains. Very, very pretty area of the country.

[PFT Commenter]

You've been in it before? Many times.

[Hank]

Yeah, but I've never done the State College to Pittsburgh.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Route.

[Hank]

Yeah, it was nice. It was. I was able to watch, you know, watch the games. That's the beauty of YouTube.

[PFT Commenter]

Was he talking while you're trying to watch?

[Hank]

He was. And I kind of told him, I'm like, oh, hey, I'm putting my AirPods. And he's like, all right. And he just kept talking.

[PFT Commenter]

What is. What did the Uber. What was the total bill on the Uber?

[Hank]

300 bucks.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, geez.

[Hank]

I gave him another hundred.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah. When he picked you up, was he like, are you serious?

[Hank]

He was like, no. He's like. He was a talker. He was like, I'm just excited to get out of this place. There's so many bad drivers. Almost gotten five accidents today. I just needed to get out of this town.

[PFT Commenter]

Great.

[Zach]

So when you got to Pittsburgh, how long did you have to wait for your flight?

[Hank]

Two hours.

[Zach]

Did you. What other cities did you look up?

[Hank]

D.C. baltimore, Philly.

[PFT Commenter]

Ever think about driving back? Yes. And eight hours. Okay.

[Hank]

Didn't want to do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that would have been tough. Yeah, that have been very tough, especially being hungover. Yeah. How late did you guys stay out? Because the game ended. You just went home.

[Hank]

I mean, State call.

[Zach]

Just.

[Hank]

There's.

[PFT Commenter]

There's.

[Hank]

I wish I took a picture of the. Of the gridlock. You know the video they always post of la, like.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. Thanksgiving out on.

[Hank]

On the highway. That was the scene. Leaving State College.

[PFT Commenter]

Max claims that he was the last person to leave the stadium.

[Max]

That's fact. That's not a claim. That's a fact. I was the last person to leave Beaver Stadium last night.

[Hank]

In hindsight, I should have just Walked. It was like a, it was like an hour and 10 minute walk back to my hotel. And I was, in hindsight, I should have just done that. I would have got home earlier, but it was like, yeah, we'll just tailgate, you know, we'll hang out in the park lot for a little bit and then call an Uber.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Because the walk would still couldn't call an Uber.

[PFT Commenter]

What was it? Was it a crisp fall night?

[Hank]

Yeah, it was a nice.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Max]

Can I be trust tree.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

This fact I move. This is, this is a fact. It's not a fat guy move. It's just a fat guy thing. It's a fat guy move.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Max]

I was also chafing so bad and people were yelling at me as they were in traffic, being like, max, you got to get some ointment. Because I was doing the walk where.

[PFT Commenter]

You'Re like, can I, can we.

[Zach]

It.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I walked 18 holes on Friday and I've been chafing it so bad.

[Max]

Well, it's like when you're at a, like we started tailgating at noon yesterday.

[PFT Commenter]

You're walking. Yeah, but I just still. It's fat, you know, our legs. We don't have the thigh gap. Okay. Sorry. Yeah, we're not gonna be on the Chive anytime soon. No, no, it's just not gonna happen.

[Max]

No, it's not gonna happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So.

[Max]

Yeah, because you're walking all day yesterday. You're going back. Like, I was doing a lot of walking. I was chafing. I was so mad. I was like screaming mad because, because Ubers kept canceling on me.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Max]

I was already mad that the, that Penn State lost a game at one point, like the, the third Uber canceled on me, and I just went up to a tree and I just started banging my, my forehead against this tree.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, man.

[Zach]

I found out that actually did that work.

[Max]

Swear to God.

[PFT Commenter]

You were like. So someone could have walked by and.

[Max]

Oh, I'm sure they did.

[Zach]

Did it work?

[Max]

I, the next Uber did, did come.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Max]

I, I, I'll, I'll show you.

[Hank]

I found out that Max.

[PFT Commenter]

He's doing it to the door. I don't. Is this on video?

[Hank]

Max lost the state championship at, at State College.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's posted that picture. Also, your butt crack was showing at the end of the game.

[Max]

Well, that's. The sky's blue.

[Zach]

Max, how mad were you at us?

[PFT Commenter]

Fetal position.

[Zach]

How mad. How mad were you at us when, when we said that your offense stunk and then you guys scored a couple.

[PFT Commenter]

Points and then you called Me, a fucker.

[Max]

I scored a couple points, tied the game up, sent it to overtime in the fourth quarter.

[Zach]

Fact or fiction? You were chanting to fire James Franklin about five minutes before that.

[Max]

I didn't say that.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you say that you were at a white out if you were sitting in a suite?

[Max]

We were on the field for the first quarter. I had such a funny video, too, that I couldn't post.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, the.

[Max]

The Penn State lost. I just had a. I was just. I was heckling. I was heckling the Ducky. The Ducky mascot for a while.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, hell, yeah. I'm sure he heard you. He did.

[Max]

No, I was right next to him.

[PFT Commenter]

And what do you say?

[Max]

He just kept waving. I was like, waving, Ducky, keep waving. And he just looks at me. He doesn't do anything. He just goes.

[PFT Commenter]

You'Re the worst.

[Max]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you think about fighting him, Mascot, you're bad.

[Zach]

He was kind of showing you up. You're like, stop waving at me. And he just kept waving.

[PFT Commenter]

He did.

[Max]

I'm gonna send it. I'm gonna send it to the group.

[PFT Commenter]

Little did he know you would be chafing, hitting your head against a tree.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, In a matter of hours, the Ducky.

[Max]

The Ducky won round one for sure. But, yeah, actually, I guess it's round two that they won.

[Zach]

Big Ten chain.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they did. No, wait, Penn State won that game? No, Oregon won that game.

[Max]

Yeah, Oregon.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Panther stink. Yeah. 30. 30 to nothing to 42. Like they won a game, 30 to nothing, and then they lost a game. 42. 13.

[Zach]

Yeah. It's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

So I looked it up. David Tepper has owned the Panthers for 120 games. How many has he won? 120 games.

[Zach]

I'm going to say 17.

[PFT Commenter]

No, better than that.

[Zach]

I'm going to say 35.

[PFT Commenter]

Close. He's 37 and 83. Since owning the team, since buying the team, he's got. He's got to maybe look in the mirror, say, hey, we got to change something around.

[Zach]

I wonder how many back to back wins.

[PFT Commenter]

He said, probably not a lot. No, probably not a lot. So, yeah, it's like the Panthers still got a long way to go.

[Zach]

The Panthers are very good at being like, oh, holy shit, I think we found something today.

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Zach]

And then that does not translate at all to whatever happens next week.

[PFT Commenter]

They are. They are essentially like Max and I doing a diet for three days and then eating nothing but wings and ice cream. Bad weekend? Yeah, bad week. We're like, hey, I think we're. I think we're actually going to change now. I think everything's about to change in our life. And then it flips back and you're like, oh, no, you're a fat fuck.

[Zach]

Yeah. It's like Bryce looked awesome today. He was in control of the offense, good tempo. And then the next game, he's doing the. The jump passes that get intercepted.

[PFT Commenter]

30 to nothing to 42, 13 is. Is very hard to do. Can you pull this video up on the. Because so the people can see it too. Put it on the YouTube. I'd like to see this video. You yelling at the ducky. We are Hank.

[Max]

Oh, that video.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we are Hank.

[Max]

Okay, I have to.

[Hank]

We were. You say it all day. Everyone. There was. There was a lot. I mean, shout out to. There was a lot of awls, a lot of. A lot of stoolies. More than. Honestly, I was. I was surprised. It was overwhelming amount of.

[PFT Commenter]

Why you guys are stars. Yeah.

[Hank]

But, you know, you never know. Some places, it's. It's a little bit. Some places, a lot. Penn State was a lot. And every single person is like, we are.

[PFT Commenter]

We.

[Zach]

Are you guys getting the jumbotron?

[Hank]

They're not getting the jumbotron.

[Zach]

Oh, but you filmed that video.

[Hank]

I know.

[Zach]

Is that video ever gonna see the light of day?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Hank]

I guess.

[PFT Commenter]

No. Let's put it in the YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

We don't have the rights. We don't have the rights.

[PFT Commenter]

The same as the play the video.

[Hank]

It's not.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not. Let's go back to back videos here.

[Hank]

We gave it to Penn State. It's there.

[PFT Commenter]

People are gonna be so mad when they see that. Like the.

[Hank]

We can't play this video.

[PFT Commenter]

The Patriots. Panthers.

[Zach]

Oh, we are.

[PFT Commenter]

Talked about for 30 minutes. Oh, we. We are. We definitely are. All right, here we go. This is you against the Duck. It's gonna be a long night, Ducky. Oh, you're the worst.

[Zach]

Come on.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep waving, Duckies. Oh, it's great. All right, wait, play the. Play the other video. You have to play the jumbo.

[Max]

I think I deleted it.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, Memes. Can you put. Please.

[Zach]

Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Got. He's got you got it. Yeah, I think I deleted. I want. Because I've actually not seen it. You know what? You can find it. PFT's gonna do two ads and you find it. Okay.

[Zach]

Yeah. Hey, Memes. Play the original one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

No, no, we're not playing the original one.

[PFT Commenter]

Play the video. And PFT's gonna do a couple ads while you pull this up.

[Zach]

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[PFT Commenter]

Yep, classic four pack king size. Sorry, upside down.

[Zach]

The. The original Reese's peanut butter cup is a treat. It can't be beat. I got the big cup right here. I think this is my favorite one actually. Theresa's big cup. I also like the big cup with the chocolate. The like chocolate lava on the big cup. Nothing better than chocolate and Reese's peanut butter. The best combination of all time. Find Reese's Peanut Butter Cups basically anywhere. Shop Reese's Peanut Butter cups now at a store near you found wherever candy is sold.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, Max, you got the video for us? All right, so this is the halftime pump up video that was going to play. And I actually will say right now, Penn State would have won. They would have won if you had this video played. Yeah, I think that's fair to say. You don't think that's the truth? You guys don't think you would have been able to figure this out?

[Hank]

You guys should be arrested for this.

[Max]

Yeah, I'm taking my headphones off for this one.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

What's up, Happy Valley? It's Hank and Max here from part of my table.

[PFT Commenter]

Today's the day.

[Max]

Today is the day that we once again remind America who has the best stadium atmosphere in college football.

[Hank]

So we're going to need everyone to.

[PFT Commenter]

Get loud, we're going to need everyone to get wild, and we're going to.

[Hank]

Need everyone to get unruly.

[Max]

Let me hear from all 106,000 of.

[PFT Commenter]

You in the seats. We are. Oh, we are. We are. Thank you.

[Zach]

That was. That was the best one by far. There was another one that was probably 20 times as bad.

[PFT Commenter]

The call and response.

[Zach]

Yeah. Oh, shout out Hank. Spilling. Spilling his drink all over my laptop.

[PFT Commenter]

Man, I'm so sad that that didn't get on there. Were you guys. Did you guys think it was going to. Were you, like, waiting for the moment I would know?

[Max]

I was really hoping that they were not going to play it.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, man, I knew.

[Max]

I. I knew too many. I had too many friends over there that would have just made fun of me for way too long.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, now they'll see it, but it's different. Yeah, it's different.

[Zach]

It's different.

[Max]

This is like. I meant I'm supposed to be made fun of.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a trust tree, everyone. Yeah, you're listening this. Do not repeat what you just heard. Okay. Don't say it to anyone. Don't share it anywhere.

[Max]

It's not like they're there. There's more people. It feels like there's more people at the stadium than there are.

[PFT Commenter]

That.

[Zach]

Listen, it's true.

[PFT Commenter]

Not even close. Yeah. Yeah.

[Max]

But still, it's different.

[PFT Commenter]

Sure. Okay. Let's go to Lions. Browns. Oh, my God. The Cowboys are going to do it. That was a crazy. Crazy.

[Zach]

So she throwing that away.

[PFT Commenter]

That he was throwing that away. The Cowboys are going to win this game. That was insane. Holy shit. This has been an insane game. Packers, they're still probably going to win the super bowl, but their defense doesn't look like it's that good. Man, this is bad. That was. That's crazy. Packers. Yeah, there's. They're going to win the Super Bowl. All right. Lions 34, Browns 10. This is the. Why the Lions are so scary because this was such a letdown spot off a big Monday night win on the road. Come back, Browns have a good defense. Doesn't matter. They'll just work you and work you with their defense, work you with their offense. Yep. It was. Aiden Hutchinson was insane. He was everywhere. He had two sacks, two tackles for a loss, force fumble. Just insane, insane game from him. What are you looking for, Hank? You're making motions to Max.

[Zach]

Max has his mic on.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh. Oh, he's chewing into the mic.

[Zach]

Yeah, we were hearing. Hearing the noises.

[Max]

That's my bad.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. He was incredible. And then the offense is. You know, it just. They had Jared.

[Zach]

Offense wasn't that good today for the Lions.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, well, the Browns defense is still elite, but they still. The Lions have not given up a sack in three straight games. Browns have a pretty good defense.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Also Jameer Gibbs like he you know, it wasn't as easy as it's been, but he had a nice game even though the Browns have shut down all running backs. So I just think the Lions are just so, so impressive.

[Zach]

Yeah, the Lions are a complete football team. Special teams with a touchdown today, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

They. They dominated this game start to finish.

[PFT Commenter]

Raymond then going and kissing his wife. I believe that was. That should have been taunting.

[Zach]

It is taunting.

[PFT Commenter]

Just being like, I have a girlfriend.

[Zach]

I'm married. Yeah, it was. It was an ass kicking. And the Browns didn't. Their defense was great. It's time, I think, as a nation to talk about what to tell your kids about Joe Flacco getting benched.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, well, no, actually, you don't have to do that. So I wrote down, I love Joe Flacco.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I. Why would I make a guess or say anything when Kevin Stefanski can lead the way? And when he was asked about a quarterback change, he said, quote, I understand the question, but that's not our focus.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

So I think that should just be our line as a podcast. We understand the question, but it's not our focus.

[Zach]

But I think this is a. It's a question that, that you should be prepared to answer from your children.

[PFT Commenter]

Right, but we understand the question.

[Zach]

I'm not going to answer right now. I'm not going to tell you how to be a parent out there. That's not my job. My job is to tell you what to think about football.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Zach]

But you might want to start thinking about.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

How are you going to have that conversation with your kids about no more Joe Flacco?

[PFT Commenter]

I just love the. I understand the question, but that's not our focus right now.

[Zach]

I would, I would have been like, I don't understand that question.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, right, right.

[Zach]

Why. Why are you asking? You want me to predict the future?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I don't know if we're going to be here tomorrow.

[PFT Commenter]

Who knows?

[Zach]

It'll be dead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's probably time, though. By the way, the Cowboys just got stopped. Michael Parsons made a big play and they are forcing the Cowboys to kick a field goal.

[Zach]

This is why you take Brandon Aubrey in the first round.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What was that? Was that Max?

[Max]

I think it's like a 20 yard field goal.

[PFT Commenter]

I said a big field goal. Yeah. Not a long field goal.

[Zach]

To win the game.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not to win the game because they had the first possession.

[Zach]

The packers didn't touch it.

[PFT Commenter]

No, the packers did not touch it. Big field goal. Not long field goal.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, but would you say it's a big.

[Max]

I don't think you would take it. You would take a kicker in the first round to kick a 22 yard.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct that part. Yes. Yes.

[Zach]

I disagree.

[PFT Commenter]

It's probably time for Joe Flacco.

[Zach]

I'm not going to say it.

[PFT Commenter]

We understand the question.

[Zach]

There was a pass.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

There was a pass in the first half that I think any neutral observer could look at and say, okay, okay, it's time.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, okay. It's time.

[Zach]

He's not happy anymore. His quality of life isn't that great being the starting quarterback. The Browns have experience doing funerals for a dog. They can do the whole thing.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got to go all the way to London for the next game.

[Zach]

He doesn't want to do that.

[PFT Commenter]

No. Come on. That's crazy.

[Zach]

But I guess he still does want to get paid.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

It's time.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach, I got a question for you.

[Zach]

Yes sir.

[PFT Commenter]

When you. When you game how late are you gaming till depending on the night the latest weeknight or weekend weekend On a weekend I'm playing pretty late. How late if the boys are on and we're firing nothing too insane like 1:30. How do you feel the next day if I. If I. If I'm able to fall straight to sleep afterwards? Good. If I'm not the best at falling asleep sometimes on those days. Not the best.

[Zach]

Are you ever. Is it ever hard for you to fall asleep after gaming?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't do. I don't do well falling asleep. I asked this question because in this could be fake but someone I think found Amon Ra St. Brown playing 2K at 4:29am that's not a good look but I but if they're on a hot if they're on a streak if they're. I mean he had two touchdowns today so it's not really a problem.

[Zach]

Do we know that it was him.

[PFT Commenter]

It said Amon Ross St. Brown. He was just walking around and like the guy was like he's been on for the for this long I was.

[Hank]

Gonna say do we know he didn't just wake up and maybe he true.

[PFT Commenter]

A little early no because it said that he had been on for a.

[Zach]

While but it might be like Marky Mark I can his daily schedule I.

[PFT Commenter]

Could send you wake up I saw.

[Hank]

The the tweeter like there was someone else that was on too till like.

[PFT Commenter]

1Am it was very very funny because it was his avatar was just like walking around in like a playground it looked like yeah so I don't really know. I don't maybe you can explain what happens in 2k better to us. He's walking around the park. There's a virtual park. You scroll around. Oh, here it is. You got it? All right, play it. So this is. This is Monroe. The person thinks they found him at 4:29 in the morning. You play it on the 18 game streak, bro.

[Zach]

It's 4:29am in the morning and you got a game at 1:00 clock tomorrow.

[PFT Commenter]

Amara State Brown.

[Zach]

Get the off too, kid.

[PFT Commenter]

Got money on you, gang. And you over here shrieking. What. What shrink you got on the 18 game? Street, go to bed. If y' all parlays up, y' all know why, bro. He's on 2K at 4:29.

[Hank]

You can't go to bed on it. You can't go to bed on a 17.

[PFT Commenter]

That type of stream.

[Hank]

Yeah, you gotta, you gotta keep.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep going.

[Zach]

Yeah, I need to know, like, how long did that streak get?

[PFT Commenter]

Did he.

[Zach]

Did he lose?

[PFT Commenter]

If you're in a 17 game win streak, running twos on my park, you. You go until you lose. There's no, there's no other option.

[Zach]

18 game streak. 18 1. I. I would go to bed actually, because 181 looks really bad, but 18.

[PFT Commenter]

And O could turn into 24. 0. True.

[Zach]

Yeah, good point.

[PFT Commenter]

Either way, he had two touchdowns, so I think he's fine.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

So. And yeah, the Lions are really fucking good. And Jameer Gibbs again, like the Browns have stuffed everyone running. You think he had 89 yards? Broke a couple. So, yeah, Lions are just scary.

[Zach]

This is going to be so, so disappointing to our beloved fans over in Europe. In London, they bought these tickets to see the Browns play. And with the understanding that Joe Flacco is going to be the quarterback.

[Hank]

I think they'll be all right.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Zach]

Yeah, we're trying to grow the game, Hank.

[Hank]

They should play Shador.

[PFT Commenter]

Dylan Gabriel would.

[Hank]

Get people in the seats.

[Zach]

Grow the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right, Next up, Texans 26, Titans 0. Why don't we just go to Cam Ward for this one? Cam Ward after the game said, do you want to pull it up, Max? Because it's better if he just says it. We have Cam Ward here. Welcome to Cam Ward to the show. Here's what he said after the game. I mean, we keeping a buck right now. We ass. So we owing four. We have this one. We got nothing to lose. We dropped a quarter of our fucking games and we've yet to do anything. So we have to lock in, especially myself on the offensive line from the defensive Line from the special teams to all three faces. We have to play together. We have not played together this year yet. And that's just something that, you know, we want to preach about it every day. Every day we got to do better, and we're doing that. But it has to show up on Sundays. It hasn't showed up yet, but it got to show up next week if we keep it a buck right now. We asked.

[Zach]

We asked.

[PFT Commenter]

They don't ask how he played. He said ass.

[Zach]

Yeah, they are ass.

[PFT Commenter]

They're beyond ass, little bro. Ass. They're so bad.

[Zach]

Now, I, I like what Cam Ward's saying because I like it better than what Callahan's saying after the game because Callahan just tried to fight something. He just, he wants to fight the media.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

After the game, like, they're going to ask you questions about being ass. And you have to understand how to answer those questions and coach speak without trying to fight somebody.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Cam Ward does a great job. He's like, yeah, we're asked.

[PFT Commenter]

Good.

[Zach]

Good point. Yes, that's us.

[PFT Commenter]

It was guilty as charged ass.

[Zach]

But Callahan is like, our guys fought out there. We fought. He always tells the media, like, they fight. These guys fight. And doesn't really say too much about how they're playing as a football team. But yeah, it's not good. Not good for the Titans. I just hope we're getting in. Into a situation where they might be actively ruining Cam Lord.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, it does feel. It does feel that way.

[Zach]

The whole.

[PFT Commenter]

The whole thing is just a mess.

[Zach]

This whole game was ass. As a matter of fact, it was an ass game.

[PFT Commenter]

Although the Texans did like, C.J. stroud looked good. He's getting just killed all the time, too. But he had his first, like, clean, good game.

[Zach]

Neither team got into the red zone until the last play of the third quarter.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it was. That's.

[Zach]

That's ass.

[PFT Commenter]

It was big time ass. We also have some weird stuff. Oh, one other thing. For Takee next year, I think we need sack of the year Jeffrey Simmons. Sack on CJ Stroud, where he jumped the snap so perfectly. Yeah, he's up there for sack of the year. Other nominee that I have, I don't know if you guys saw this, but there's. There was a guy on Twitter who in 2022 said he will donate his left testicle to science if Tennessee wins more games than Clemson over the next three seasons. Okay, I looked it up. They had exactly the same amount of WINS the last three years. 30. So I would assume this year would be the tiebreaker.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So Tennessee versus Clemson. This year's the tiebreaker. You are nominated for sack of the year, Mr. S. Roach 3396.

[Zach]

I would also nominate Oldie and Oldie.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. But yeah. Jeffrey Simmons, Sack of the year.

[Zach]

That was. That was pretty. And there have been some great ones. Like, Crosby had a good one. Yep, there have been great sacks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So after the game, we had Lujarius Sneed. Did you see what he said?

[Zach]

I did not see Ligerius.

[PFT Commenter]

Ligerius needs. So Legarius need. Before the game, during the week, when asked about guarding Nico Collins, he just replied, who? And like Nico Collins who? He said that multiple times. Nico Collins who? So he doesn't have a lot of respect for Nico Collins. Nico Collins did burn him. I think there was like a second in 23 where Nico Collins just broke him down. Afterwards, when asked about it, Lujerius Sneed said, we all get beat, but does he get paid like I get paid?

[Zach]

Okay, so who gets paid more?

[PFT Commenter]

Technically, Legerious need has made more money in the NFL. 49 million to Nico Collins. 34 million. But Nico Collins signed a three year, $72 million deal. Luxurious need signed a four year, $76 million deal. So I guess if he's going the total money. But.

[Zach]

So he.

[PFT Commenter]

But I'd rather 3 for 72 than 4 for 76.

[Zach]

They're still in the same tax bracket.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Nico, they both made $19 million last year. And then I think this year, Luxurious Needs. Just the way his contract works out, he's making 24 and Nico's making 14. So, yeah, technically he does get paid more than him this year.

[Zach]

They're both in states with no income tax, correct? Maybe. Does one get paid like bi weekly?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Zach]

I just paid monthly. He doesn't get paid like I get paid.

[PFT Commenter]

There's.

[Zach]

There's coming every two weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a lot of things that are worrisome about the Titans. I think the guy who is supposed to be one of your best defensive players, basically in a post game where you got absolutely worked as a team, being like, well, I get paid more than him. Probably not your favorite thing ever.

[Zach]

Probably not. But I mean, such is life for the Houston Texas. This was the. It was the Texans best game by far, by far of the year. Their defense was again, really, really good. I. I don't know when they start to have that conversation about Callahan. They're probably having it right now, but.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of like the idea of him fighting his way out of this?

[Zach]

Yeah. I mean, he's. He is like the most hostile guy to the media ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Good.

[Zach]

Because he's like, he's upset that they're asking questions about his job.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I. He's in a spot where it's like he knows he's probably going to get fired. Can't be the most fun to just get your ass kicked and then also have to be asked about it all the time and just be like you're. This is where like you kind of feel bad sometimes for the coaches. Like, you get put in a rebuilding situation and then when you suck, it sucks. But yeah, he's. He's probably gonna get fired.

[Zach]

I'd say that Variable won that breakup.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I would say so too.

[Zach]

Big time.

[PFT Commenter]

But the Texans might be back. Who do the Texans have next week?

[Zach]

The Texans are playing.

[PFT Commenter]

The Texans rip off a couple.

[Zach]

Yeah, the Ravens.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, wow. I mean, maybe. No, Lamar.

[Zach]

Right? We can get to it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. Okay, next up, afternoon games. Rams 27, Colts 20. Very important question for you guys. Can we still say the Colts are undefeated because they beat themselves?

[Zach]

I don't think so.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Zach]

I don't think so.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. But they did beat them. They did get a.

[Zach]

But that's still a loss.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's also still a win.

[Zach]

It's a win and a loss.

[PFT Commenter]

So they're 4 and 1.

[Zach]

Yeah, the 4 and 1 right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Now because they beat themselves and it. I want the Rams. We'll talk about Puka Naku and Stafford and the Rams defense. But The Colts had 80. Mitchell fumble going in for a touchdown. The. We were due for one of those. Fumbled out of the end zone. So that was seven points that he just gave up. AD Mitchell also. Hold on. The Jonathan Taylor awesome touchdown run. That should have been. It would have been so sick.

[Zach]

I think. I think A.D. mitchell. Has he beat the Colts today?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Eleven penalties, two Daniel Jones interceptions, and here's the one that gotta kill you. When the rams scored their 88 yard touchdown. 2. 2. Atwell. The Colts had 10 players on the field. Yeah. Beat yourself more than what the Colts did today. That was a. You just gotta like be disgusted with how that game went.

[Zach]

So AD Mitchell had a moment where it was like, okay, maybe it's not the end of the world. Because yes, he did fumble on the one yard line when he was shifting the ball from his outside arm to his inside arm to get ready to celebrate the touchdown he was scoring. Fumbled it through the end zone. But then I think it was the next play. Yeah, the Rams fumbled it. So the Colts got it right back right after that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

And then they ended up getting a field goal out of it. So you can just, you can point at yourself and be like, yeah, we should have scored touchdown there. That might not be the play that cost us the game. But then when you add in the hold on the touchdown and then you add in 10 men on the field that they just take advantage of and 2, 2 at will scores. What was it? 88 yards.

[PFT Commenter]

88 yards.

[Zach]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, 88 degrees.

[Zach]

Yeah. So. So the Colts 4 and 1 on the year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

But it was a bad loss to themselves.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a really bad loss.

[Zach]

Like they.

[PFT Commenter]

But a really good win against themselves because they beat an undefeated Colts team.

[Zach]

They.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Zach]

All those mistakes, they got blown out by themselves.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And they blew out an undefeated. A once undefeated Colts team. They beat.

[Zach]

Yeah, soundly, that, that is true. They covered soundly. But yeah, I think the Colts are still fine. I think this was always going to be a tough game to play, go on the road against a really good team, really good defense.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Well coached.

[PFT Commenter]

And Puka Nukua. So Stafford, this is actually the best.

[Zach]

Kind of loss that the Colts could have. Yeah, they can just point at all these mistakes and be like, we, hey, we got to clean a few things up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we got to win and we got a loss.

[Zach]

If they clean some stuff up, I think they'll be okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So Puka Nakua, that there was two things. One, Stafford, that 96 yard touchdown drive they had to finish the first half was like surgical, clinical. Stafford and Puka Nakua was completely unguardable. I don't like 13 catches, 170 yards and a touchdown. He has 500 yards through the first four games. And I say that because he is the first player to have 500 yards through the first four games. Twice in his career. He's done it twice now.

[Zach]

That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

He did it two years ago. That's. I mean, he's so fucking good.

[Zach]

Great player. Rams. Very, very good team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they had their defense also like had some, some big time moments where they were pressuring Daniel Jones. Yeah, the Rams are for real. And the Colts, I, yeah, I walk away being like, I think the Colts are. I saw this as a big test game. And yes, they failed the test, but also they hung.

[Zach]

Could you ever imagine though, a Sean McVeigh team doing something like this?

[PFT Commenter]

What do you mean?

[Zach]

Like the Colts were those three giant mistakes that they. No, not all three not in the same game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. By the way, the packers have it third and 14 in overtime. And are they going to throw a flag? No. We'll. Let's. Let's talk about. Oh, they did.

[Zach]

No, no flag.

[PFT Commenter]

That looked like a flag.

[Zach]

One second left.

[Max]

I'm gonna get a tie.

[Zach]

One set.

[PFT Commenter]

Tie.

[Max]

Die. I've just been.

[PFT Commenter]

Are they gonna tie this whole time?

[Max]

I've just been.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Max]

I've just been saying tie back here.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God. Ty. Ty. Holy. I never even.

[Zach]

Oh, are they gonna see.

[PFT Commenter]

I never even thought for a second they wouldn't try to go for it again. I never even. It never even entered my brain that they would tie it.

[Max]

I mean, 4th and 14. You got it. You go for the tie.

[PFT Commenter]

Sunday night tie.

[Zach]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

A Sunday night ties. Oh, man. Tie. There's a tie. 40 to 40.

[Max]

So that's got to be a gami.

[PFT Commenter]

Got to be a guy.

[Zach]

Let's look it up.

[PFT Commenter]

Gotta be a gami. Has to be. Oh, man, that's gotta be the. Also, like, no one cares about your bets, but I would imagine there's a lot of people who teased the Packers. Yes to one. And then a tie happens.

[Zach]

Oh, score gummy is not loading right now. So that tells me maybe a lot of people own.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, the Ravens lost.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So he's probably. Oh, man. What do you think of tie paid out? Ty probably was electric. Sunday night tie.

[Zach]

40 to 40 is a score gummy.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, let's go score a me Sunday night tie. Wow, what a game. It's kind of fun because we can just be like, well, we don't know because they tied. Yeah. There's no really bold proclamations to make for my time.

[Zach]

I'll make a problem.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. That was a loss for the. For the Packers.

[Zach]

The Cowboys won this time.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the packers lost.

[Zach]

It's very, very clear. Cowboys. This was dominant tie by the Cowboys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And you should be able to dominate the Cowboys. And you didn't. Cowboys did it. Did it up to him.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

40 points. Yeah. You guys would agree, right? There's a. There's a loss for the Packers. For the. For the Cows.

[Zach]

Yes. Massive, massive win.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What a tie. I do think that it's probably so happy right now.

[Zach]

I do think the last like four weeks of the NFL and the media just saying non stop, oh, the Cowboys lost their best player. They're fucked right now. I think that had way more of an impact on the Cowboys than it did on the Packers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, I would agree.

[Zach]

Like Michael Parsons obviously was pissed and wanted to prove a point tonight, but everybody on the Cowboys was extra motivated.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Yes. And they never talked about Kenny Clark.

[Zach]

It's true.

[PFT Commenter]

Right? The broadcast, really. I don't know if you guys knew this, but Michael Parsons did play for the Cowboys.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

It was pretty heavy handed. Including Jerry Jones speaking when they were like, had Micah Parsons, Jerry Jones talking about the contract negotiations while Micah Parsons took the field. It's quite something. Tie. Wow. We have a tie. I love that. And a walk off tie. You should go for it. Like, how can you be happy with a tie? That's bad. Bad's bullshit. Just go for it.

[Zach]

I do kind of blame the Cowboys for this tie.

[PFT Commenter]

How so?

[Zach]

In overtime, they should try to score a touchdown at the end.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But they had the ball first, so gotta score. They were like, hey, if we get.

[Zach]

A stop, gotta score touchdown to win. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so Rams, Colts, anything else? Pukinaku is awesome.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Colts beat the fuck out of themselves.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, beat the out of them, so.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, next up, Jags 26, Niners 21. The Jags are 3 and 1.

[Zach]

Do we have a new rivalry game?

[PFT Commenter]

We might. We might.

[Zach]

Some bad blood.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

Because shout out to Liam Cohen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

For. For going up to Salah, who I guess set the stage earlier in the week. Salah made a point about how all the guys from McVeigh's coaching tree legally steal signs during the games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

And they know what's happening.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

I think he was trying to put that out there just to be like, hey, Cohen, we know what you. What you're up to. You should probably change whatever it is that you're doing at the last second.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

Because we're aware of it. Cohen didn't really care for it. And then after the game, they had a little spat, A little midfield spat. Comb told Salah, keep my name out of your mouth. And looked like he wanted to fight him. I just want to say for the record, Robert Salah would beat the out of Liam Cohen if they got into a fight. And it looked. Because it looked like Cohen wanted to fight him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

Pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

Although. Did he?

[Zach]

Well, he also. He had his hand behind somebody's back and then did not make any effort to, like, remove his hand from their back as he was pretending to get around the whole back. Guy.

[PFT Commenter]

I was gonna say Robert Sala. Like, he would beat the fuck out of Liam Cohen. Right.

[Zach]

Snap him in half.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, Liam Cohen, nice guy. Like to have him on. Would love to have him on again. And it's no offense to him. But Robert Salah, like, you don't. You don't fight a bald headed guy.

[Zach]

I think Cohen knows that.

[PFT Commenter]

Right? A bald headed football guy. No, thank you.

[Zach]

Yeah. Saying keep my name out of your mouth is as good as landing a punch.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

In his mind.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But, yeah, this was. This was a rivalry game. So the Jaguars, though, three and one. Very close to being four. And, oh, if it wasn't for Jake Browning's heroics in that game that Joe Burrow got hurt. But the Jaguars defense, too. We talked about it last week. Remember we said that they had nine turnovers, takeaways on the season and through three weeks.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And they had nine takeaways all of last year. They had four more. Today they have 13 takeaways on the year, they had four turnovers. Today they just forced turnovers. By the way, I went and looked it up. There are two teams through three weeks with zero takeaways. Anyone to guess?

[Zach]

Zero takeaways. The Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

And Dolphins.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Okay, we got a bet for some turnovers.

[Zach]

Some.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, come on.

[Zach]

Two is zero.

[PFT Commenter]

Zero takeaways. Like the jets and the Dolphins are going to take the ball away.

[Zach]

Two just did the Cam Newton. I got you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Let's go.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, because like. And Justin Fields is Justin Fields. Do we know Justin Fields? Coming off a concussion. Okay, so those guys will give it away, right?

[Zach]

You would think so.

[PFT Commenter]

You'd think so.

[Zach]

You would think so. Yeah. But this was. Yeah, four. They've generated at least three takeaways in all four games a season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

The Jaguars.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty crazy.

[Zach]

That's what they're doing. They're calling it. You know what Jordan Lewis is calling it?

[PFT Commenter]

What is he calling it?

[Zach]

Straps and ville.

[PFT Commenter]

Straps and ville.

[Zach]

Yeah. I don't know what that means. Can somebody explain to me. Is that gun at the strap? Get the strap.

[PFT Commenter]

Get the strap.

[Zach]

I thought it was like, what, like Trayvon Diggs would say, get the strap.

[PFT Commenter]

Huh? Straps him.

[Zach]

But straps and vill. The straps and ville. I like it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Why not? Let's use it. And Etienne's awesome. It's been very good.

[Zach]

It was tough for the 49ers. They lost Pearsall in the second half and they're down to, like, nobody. I think Jennings might have gotten hurt, too. Yeah, they're down to, like, nobody at wide receiver to throw the ball to.

[PFT Commenter]

They basically just need Christian McCaffrey to do every.

[Zach]

Yeah. Do every. Which he. He almost did.

[PFT Commenter]

He almost did. And yeah, they need some guys healthy because this is. I'm not. I'm not ready to say Brock Purdy is bad, but he probably needs. Yeah. Christian McCaffrey was the leading rusher and leading receiver. So that. He's doing everything. He's trying to do everything. You need to get some guys back.

[Zach]

Yeah. Purdy should do, like, as much as he can. He should do like 50%.

[PFT Commenter]

Purdy should just not come. He shouldn't have come back until at least one of his guys was back.

[Zach]

Yeah. I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

Like Ayuk or Kittle.

[Zach]

I agree. But this is. It's not. It's not a fun offense that he's having to run by himself out there.

[PFT Commenter]

And now they have a short week.

[Zach]

Playing Thursday Night Football. Who are they playing?

[PFT Commenter]

I believe they play the Rams. Is that not right? They play the Rams on Thursday night. That's gonna be. I feel like we didn't have that game last year. That was bad. Like 9 to 12 to 9.

[Zach]

That was the one that was in the rain.

[PFT Commenter]

And we just bet every over. Not. Not even like a single prop came in. Yeah.

[Hank]

49Ers Rams.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Over.

[Hank]

Under 47 and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm kind of. I'm kind of buying some Jaguars stock. I think they got. I think they got like some new culture.

[Zach]

Three and one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I don't know if they're. I don't know. We'll see. I mean, anyone could win the AFC South.

[Zach]

That loss to the Bengals is going to linger in my brain.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

That's the problem with it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But they got some. Some good tests coming up because they play the Chiefs, the Seahawks, and the Rams. Like, those are going to be. If they. If they find a way to go two and one in that stretch, then you have to be saying, I believe Jaguars are for real.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Also. Yeah. Did you. Did you mention that Kyle Shanahan after the game said he doesn't think that Liam cone should be sensitive about it when talking about the sign stealing stuff. I like that.

[Zach]

I like that. Yeah, he's being sensitive.

[PFT Commenter]

See you again in four years.

[Zach]

But great rivalry. We should make a trophy for this one.

[PFT Commenter]

We should. Someone awl hit me up and said that when we eventually get to 18 games, there should just be trophy week and every team should have a rival that they play a trophy for. That would be awesome.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like that Roger Goodell. Meet us halfway. You're going to make us fucking play a million games overseas. At least give us stupid trophies that we can get pumped about.

[Zach]

You can. You can even do like your dumbass new Uniforms just for the trophy week.

[PFT Commenter]

And I don't. I want it on the record. I don't want it to be like classic rivalries, because I think that would be cheap in it. Where it's like, oh, it's Bears, Packers. But now they're playing for a trophy. That's stupid. It should be. It should almost be funny. You know what I mean? Where it's like the Jaguars and Niners play for a trophy. Yeah. Like it should be. It should make no sense who you're playing, but just make that a new rivalry that then you play a trophy.

[Max]

Who would you want the Bears to play for trophy week?

[PFT Commenter]

Raiders would be fun. Just because then you get to go to Vegas every other year. Who would you guys want to play?

[Zach]

I think everybody would want to take Vegas.

[PFT Commenter]

Just Vegas would be sick.

[Max]

I'd take the Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

You take the Patriots?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Who would you take? Memes? Bucks. Okay, you take the Bucks.

[Max]

Do you hate Zach?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I'm not a fan of baby. Who'd you take? Pft. Actually, I think the. I think the Bears should maybe take the Cardinals because there's a lot of. There's a lot of Chicago people who live in Arizona as well. So that would be a nice.

[Max]

Or the Commanders.

[Zach]

No, we have a rivalry.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We have a tattoo bat.

[Max]

Yeah, that could be the.

[PFT Commenter]

But we don't need a trophy, dude. Maybe it should be afc, nfc, though. Every time. Yeah, that would actually. I think that's actually the rule.

[Zach]

Titans.

[Max]

Patriots.

[Zach]

I think we should take the Titans.

[PFT Commenter]

You got the Titans. All right. I already got the Raiders.

[Max]

Well, you should want to pick a bad team.

[Zach]

They fight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, dude. You don't know if they're gonna be bad in the future.

[Max]

They might be bad forever.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you don't know that. It's like you schedule. You make a schedule for a team. 20, 30. You don't know where they're going to be as a program.

[Zach]

Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Either way. Yeah. We should do trophy games. Trophy week. Yeah. Okay. Last two games before we do that. Pfc. You got two more ads before we.

[Zach]

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[PFT Commenter]

Okay Last two games. Then we'll do a little Sunday Night Football talk as well. Bears 25, Raiders 24 Listen, ugly win, but a win is a win. Culture win. That's a game the Bears lose a million times. Tough to watch at times, but it ended up the two things that I was very enthused about. One the defense took the ball away because the defense not great but took the ball away multiple times. Kevin Byard was awesome. And then Caleb's game winning drive because they needed it and it was a 12 play drive. He was 4 for 542 yards, two scrambles for 18 yards. Win is a win. And now the bears are back to.500 going into bye week. So it felt good. It was a game that. But seriously I was like the Bears are not going to be able to win this game. And then they did the two things that never happened. 1. Blocking the kick and 2 or 1 the game winning drive for Caleb and 2 blocking the kick.

[Zach]

I thought the Bears were going to win this at halftime when they came back and Ben Johnson just like ripped into the sideline report.

[PFT Commenter]

Dude, he's a psycho.

[Zach]

That was fucking snapped. I think he Snapped on that one.

[PFT Commenter]

He said it in the post game locker room. He was just like, this is culture. We're building culture.

[Zach]

Because no, nonsense.

[PFT Commenter]

This is. I can't remember who I think it was actually. Kevin Byard said it. He was. Because he got a game ball. Yeah. Here's. Here's Ben Johnson after the, after the half. You need to change what you're doing. I don't know. You think so? We're gonna be just fine. But it was their daggers.

[Zach]

Yeah. It wasn't the words. He just stared her down.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Like, okay, yeah, we'll change everything. No, we're doing.

[PFT Commenter]

We're gonna be just fine. But Kevin Byers said, he's like, we. We're known as the team that if you get. If we get down, we give up. And that was the opposite of this game. Because like the first half, the, The Bears should have. If they had run competent offense at times in the first half, they would have been up multiple scores because of the way that Geno Smith was giving the ball away. But it was. Max Crosby is a monster. I don't know. Like, he just wrecked that game. He was just everywhere and killed. Found enough ways to. To get out of the pocket to scramble around that they won.

[Zach]

And I'm happy also, this was kind of the Ash and Ginty breakout game. You survived the Genti break.

[PFT Commenter]

I knew it was going to happen.

[Zach]

Three touchdowns, 138 yards rushing. How many yards receiving did he have? 30 yard, 17 yards. But two touchdowns.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Through the air. He was everywhere today. And he does get hit a lot in the backfield. Yeah, he gets hit a ton in the backfield, but he's still very good at keeping his balance.

[PFT Commenter]

No, this was the game. Awesome. Yeah. No, I, I knew I, I said it, but the things I was most scared about was. Was Max Crosby. Duh. That's not. That's so obvious. He's. He's, he's just everywhere. Every single snap. And if, like he can't get to you, he gets his hands up. That interception the first half, he's everywhere. And then Ash and Genti, I was like, the Bears. There was all that smoke about the Bears maybe picking him. Didn't I know the Bears run defense has struggled? But I knew. I was like, ashton, Jenny's gonna have a breakout game. He did. But credit the Bears defense because that, that third and one to force the long field goal. What a huge stop. Like, they weren't able to get a stop all. All day when. And they were able to get it there. It was basically either the Raiders marched down the field or the Bears got an interception. Those are the two outcomes for the defense until that stop.

[Zach]

Yeah. Gino had a hard time out there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So Gino said after the game, and this is Hank. Remember I alluded to it, that I had a quote for you about you missing the flight and maybe being a child. Gino said after the game, the guy I'm supposed to be hasn't showed up yet. Maybe that's what you got to tell people. Yeah. Like, listen, the guy I'm supposed to end up being here, he's not here yet. I'm gonna start using that. Yeah. We're still growing up. My golf game. The guy who's supposed to be there, he's not there yet. Okay, we got. We. He just isn't.

[Zach]

When do you know that the guy that you're supposed to be is there?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I know he's not there yet.

[Zach]

Do you feel that way? Are you like, yeah, it's me, the guy I'm supposed to be, or are you, like, after the game? Do you say the guy I'm supposed to be? Yeah, that was him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Like, credit to him or I don't know to you?

[PFT Commenter]

I. I'll tell you what, I'm using this for advisors. The guy I'm supposed to be gambling has not shown up yet. He's there somewhere, but he hasn't shown.

[Zach]

Up yet because he was bad today.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And he's bad last week, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I don't know that they have another plan, though. Besides, I think they just have to roll with Gino no matter what.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, I'd say so. I'd say that's maybe AOC when he comes back, but they paid Gino a lot of money.

[Zach]

The guy that he was supposed to be is that Tom Brady.

[PFT Commenter]

He shouldn't take a paycheck. Right. If the guy he's supposed to be hasn't shown up yet, you. You're paying a guy who's not there. Who's not there. You're not. You're not paying the correct Geno Smith yet.

[Zach]

Yeah. It is fraud.

[PFT Commenter]

He should definitely.

[Hank]

He's a quote machine.

[PFT Commenter]

He is a quote machine. He's got some good quotes.

[Hank]

Tried to write me off, by the way.

[PFT Commenter]

Josh Blackwell, who blocked the kick afterwards. I love any of these stuff. He said that the Bears long snapper told him during the week that the Raiders long snapper has a tell on the snapping the ball. He, like, subtly moves the ball right before he snaps it.

[Zach]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And Blackwell said that the first two field goals in the game, he thought he had like a perfect jump and almost got there.

[Zach]

We've seen so many block kicks this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Now have we seen more or have we just seen more block kicks that have like a direct impact on the end of the game?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. But this one was cool. This one was a little different than like the Eagles because the Eagles just blew up the middle. This was off the edge. This is a perfectly timed Beamer ball. Edge. Yeah. Like, you know when you fuck around on Madden and be like, I'll just take a million penalties trying to block this kick.

[Zach]

Yeah. How do you feel about a buy early by now?

[PFT Commenter]

I like it. Just because we have so many injuries.

[Zach]

We're on our.

[PFT Commenter]

Tyreek Stevenson got an interception, then. Then hurt himself. I think we're now on our sixth cornerback.

[Zach]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Like our top five, maybe four are out. So maybe someone. Some guys get healthy. It'd be nice. And it also just feels like that was a good win. That was a. That was a good win. Hard fought win, ugly win. But winning ugly is part of the game.

[Zach]

You know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

You can't just hope that you like blow out a team like you did the Cowboys last week who just tied the Packers. No big deal. I also should say Cairo Santos, who I've maybe given a little bit of guff to because he doesn't have the strongest leg, was awesome today. 4 for 4, hit big kicks, needed every single one of them. Offense we had like a comedy of errors when it came to the offense. We had that snap that took us like a lot deeper. Some bad sacks. So Cairo Santos came up huge.

[Zach]

Okay. The other thing I noticed about this game was Ben Johnson's bag, maybe sack of the year. So he, he not only had a variation of the pretend to fumble the snap that he had. Caleb.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Which was a weird timing on that one.

[Zach]

It seemed like it's a little early in the season to be. If you're emptying your sack against the Raiders. Unless he does have the unlimited deep sack. Which he might.

[PFT Commenter]

He might. But it was more that it was third and one on your own 30.

[Zach]

Yeah. Strange time to run it. And then he also did what? What I think everyone that's ever watched a flea flicker has suggested at some point to their friends when they're drunk.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

Like what if you do the fake flea flicker and you. You fake the pitch back and then you just keep it and run. That was a cool play that I used. I'm waiting for the next evolution. The fake fake flea flicker.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

Where you fake pitch back, fake run, and then you pitch back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

How many different iterations of this can we pull off?

[PFT Commenter]

I like that. By the way, that play got ruined because DeAndre Swift got called for a face mask. I'm gonna keep the vibes high and not say that DeAndre Swift is starting to bother me, so I'm just gonna keep the vibes high.

[Zach]

Okay. It was the most blatant face mask.

[PFT Commenter]

I've ever seen on a very cool play.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just excited because this was a. This was a win. Like, last week was an exciting win because the offense broke out. This week was an exciting win because you had to find. Piece together, find ways. It was two desperate teams because the Raiders are in the same spot as the Bears. Like, you don't want to fall to 1 and 3. You want to try to get back to 2 and 2. Two desperate teams fighting their balls off. And the Bears found a couple more plays more than the Raiders, which is something again, they haven't been able to do for a long time.

[Zach]

And you beat Tom Brady.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

And his advanced scouting and his advanced scout. That's good. I have. I have an insult stat that's actually a compliment stat to Ben Johnson. You probably already know the stat.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

Would you care to respond to it? Because I have seen the graphic floating around. Ben Johnson now has more Sunday road wins than Matt Eberfluss had in his entire tenure.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct. Matty flu. 0. 18. Sheesh. Now, in defense of Matt Eberfluz, because he doesn't really have a defense. He did technically win a London game against the Jaguars, where we were the home team.

[Zach]

It was on the road, but it was.

[PFT Commenter]

We were the home team. Yep.

[Zach]

So that's fair.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But he also. It's very funny when you look back, because he just won. All of his road games were just Thursdays or Mondays.

[Zach]

Do you think if somebody brought that stat up to Matty Berfluse and said you never. You never won a road game on a Sunday as the Bears head coach, do you think he would say Jaguars? Actually, the Jaguars. It was on the road, technically, but we were the home team.

[PFT Commenter]

Technically. Home game. But yeah, road game. Yeah. Because it is. The real sadness about that stat is guys who've been on the Bears roster for all of the Matt Eberfluous years and now for Ben Johnson, besides the Jaguars game, never got to take a flight home on a Sunday.

[Zach]

Happy feeling. Happy. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Think about that. I mean, that's insane.

[Zach]

It is crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

3 years 0 and 18 on the road on Sundays. That's if you, except for the Jaguars.

[Zach]

In London, if you didn't already have a bad culture. That's the kind of thing that would make it a bad culture.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And it's just like, I know that it's just coach speak or whatever, but, like, the way that Ben Johnson talks to the locker room just feels so different than what Matt Iberflus was doing. And I saw. I don't know if you guys saw his quote from earlier this week, which was. I loved. He was just like, we're not here to be friends. I'm here to coach these guys hard. I'm here to tell them the hard truths. Like they. They will respect the way I coach them because it will make them better.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I'm excited.

[Zach]

And Roma DU looks like a number one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he does. He does. And Zacchaeus, thank you for him. Yeah, he's awesome.

[Zach]

Thank you for him, Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he looks awesome. Probably need to get some defensive health and maybe another running back, but again, good vibes going to the bye week. Excited. The gateway is wide open.

[Zach]

So what's. Do you have a name for the bye week? You had the Portal then. You had the Gateway.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, it's Gateway. I did Portal last year. It was Gateway game. Today was a must win.

[Zach]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the. The bye week is a bye week.

[Zach]

Nobody get hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

Commander's game is going to probably be. Can't lose.

[Zach]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So we don't have to win it, but we can't lose it.

[Zach]

Okay. Did you. Did you win it or did you lose it last year or did you not win it or did you lose it last year?

[PFT Commenter]

We just. It bottomed everything out.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that was a loss that reverberated. We lost it multiple times. We let a loss turn into another loss, another loss into another loss.

[Zach]

Yep. This also. It continues to streak the teams after they play. The Commanders lose the next week.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Zach]

So who do the Falcons have next week?

[PFT Commenter]

That's big.

[Zach]

I wish I could say that we beat him up. I'm still going to roll with the stat.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you gotta.

[Zach]

I gotta roll with any sort of positive news.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you gotta roll with the status. Yeah. And again, I can't say enough. Max Crosby. He's so scary.

[Zach]

Yeah. Just everything about it. And when he's bleeding and he never.

[PFT Commenter]

Comes off the field ever. He never comes off the field. He's so fucking good.

[Zach]

Falcons have the Bills next week.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, so they have a bi week as well. The Falcons do. Oh, well, damn. I don't. Are we good? Are we good with the fact that it's bye weeks now?

[Zach]

I'm not too early, so that's why I asked you about it, because I. I hate having the early.

[PFT Commenter]

I like it just because the Bears. Health issues. That's where I'm happy that they have the bye week. If they were a fully healthy team, I'd be like, dude, we got to keep this rolling. We just won two in a row. Feels good. I just hope that some guys can get healthy.

[Zach]

Yeah. Because you come back from that, then you have 13 straight games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of games in a row. Okay. Last game, Chiefs 37, Ravens 20. The Ravens are in trouble.

[Zach]

Are they dead?

[PFT Commenter]

Ravens are 1 and 3.

[Zach]

I actually think that the Ravens are going to make the playoffs. I think they're probably going to win that division, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you think you're going to win the division?

[Zach]

Yeah, I don't think that's even that hot of a take.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know, man. They get. Their defense stinks.

[Zach]

Yeah, their defense is bad.

[PFT Commenter]

They got a ton of injuries today. Including Lamar.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that's not real?

[Zach]

I don't know if it's real or not.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Zach]

I think.

[PFT Commenter]

But I think Roquan got hurt.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

I think there was a bunch of guys that got hurt today. I think they lost. Who they lose? Stanley, maybe they lost a lot of guys throughout the course of the game.

[Zach]

Can we look up and see what the odds are for the. For the Ravens to win that division? I think. I don't think it's that high of a take.

[Hank]

They're minus 200.

[Zach]

Yeah. They're still the favorite.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'm not. I. Nothing. I don't like anything about the Ravens right now. I'll just say that it just. All right, so Lamar got hurt. Ronnie Stanley got hurt. Roquan Smith got hurt. Marlon Humphrey got hurt. Nate Wiggins got hurt. It's a lot of guys. I'll say one thing about the Ravens. They did figure out Derrick Henry's fumble issues. He did not fumble today because he only carried the ball eight times.

[Zach]

Yeah, that did not make sense to me.

[PFT Commenter]

But Lamar, they were down fast.

[Zach]

Lamar, he contracted fumbleitis from Derrick Henry.

[PFT Commenter]

Spags had him in hell.

[Zach]

So Lamar, he's not like an all time bad fumbler as a quarter. He's had some very, very prominent, noteworthy fumbles and bad times.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Zach]

Lamar is just one of the worst at recovering Fumbles.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So if you look at the stats, I think he's like. I think he's lost maybe the. Well, he's. He's had like the 8th or 9th most fumbles of any quarterback that's active right now, but I think he's number one or two in terms of how many he's lost.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So he's just really bad at picking his fumbles up and they're just like, comically. Yeah, they're comically bad because he's, like, got one hand on the ground. He's trying to spin around in the backfield. So when he loses a fumble, he really loses a fumble.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way, I found the stat I was looking for. 50 other teams have allowed 133 plus points through the first four weeks of the season. Only two have made the playoffs. So that's really what it is for the Ravens, for me is like, their defense is just. Is atrocious right now.

[Zach]

They are very, very bad defensively.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. And. And I'm just kind of sick of the Raven shit, too. I don't know.

[Zach]

That's. That's why I don't know if this was a get right game for the Chiefs or if it was just, we have all of our guys back, they're healthy, or the Ravens defense sucked.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I'm just. Is there a chance. And you're right, like, the Ravens winning the division is not a hot take because they're still favorites and they probably will, but is there a chance this could be the year from hell for the Ravens?

[Zach]

Is there a chance they've had a few of those.

[PFT Commenter]

No. I know, but, like, they. They've been. They've been building, building, building. Yeah. They obviously had Lamar get hurt. What was it two years ago when Tyler Huntley had to come in for a bunch of games? I don't know. They're just, they're. I'm not impressed by bowler Tyler Huntley. Yeah. Pro Bowler Tyler Huntley. I'm just not impressed by the Ravens. So show it to me. Until I keep saying, like, oh, the Ravens will be just fine.

[Zach]

Mahomes is now 5 and 1 against Lamar all the time. And he is also 12 and 5. Straight up as an underdog.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

When he's not favored.

[PFT Commenter]

So we said on Sunday or on Friday, show that after this game, we'll have a conversation about Patrick Mahomes. I'm ready to have that conversation. What I have for that conversation is he's still the best quarterback in the NFL and they're probably going to The Super Bowl.

[Zach]

I would like to add on to that. He's actually 6 and 1 against Lamar, 5 and 1. So I don't want to, I don't want to give him any more bulletin board. But would it be a hot take to say the Chiefs are going to win that division? That's what we should just do. Be like, oh, Chargers lost today. Yeah, Chiefs won. It's the Chiefs.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I mean he got Xavier Worthy back. He spread the ball around perfectly. I know he missed a couple throws. So he had four touchdown passes. He's the fastest. He's the youngest quarterback to throw 250 touchdowns. It's his 18th career four touchdown game. He's fine. The Chiefs are fine. They're going to be in the AFC championship game at minimum.

[Zach]

And he didn't lead the team in.

[PFT Commenter]

Rushing, he didn't lead the team in rush, has some weapons back and they're going to get even more weapons back. You know, Rasheed Rice is going to come back.

[Zach]

And so what's very funny about that is, you know who did lead the team in rushing?

[PFT Commenter]

Who?

[Zach]

Xavier Worth. Oh, so a wide receiver led the team in Russia.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You know, they still can't run the ball like they should. Hank. This. This bothers you? This doesn't.

[Hank]

No, I mean, they're gonna be fine. They obviously heard the people in the media saying they weren't going to make the playoffs. Their, their wash. The run is over. And.

[PFT Commenter]

But in their defense, they also heard the people in the media say you should never listen to someone talk on a podcast. And that's. Why would you ever take what someone says on a podcast? True.

[Hank]

But yeah, for, for, for one more week there, there's still the Chiefs of old. They looked really good. Patrick Mahomes looked great. They're gonna get more weapons back as the season goes.

[PFT Commenter]

You said the way you said that probably you said for one week they're the Chiefs of old. So you think this was just a one week aberration?

[Hank]

You never know. The Ravens defense is really bad.

[Zach]

Does it bother you that the way that we talk about the Chiefs, especially saying, oh, everybody wrote them off, you wrote them off too early. They're still the Chiefs. That's the exact same way that we used to talk about the Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Does.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, listen, we said we were gonna have a conversation. We're having the conversation. Patrick Mahomes is just fine. The Chiefs are going to be just fine. They're gonna again be there in the end when it comes to the super bowl playoffs, AFC championship game. All that shit. Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know they are.

[Hank]

I know. You know, I was hoping this was.

[PFT Commenter]

I was.

[Hank]

I was just of, you know, hoping. Prayer game. And. And it didn't work out right.

[PFT Commenter]

They started owing to. But that's. Your. Hank is now focused on the Chicago Ave. Closure of the bridge.

[Zach]

Yeah, he doesn't want to be. He doesn't want to be late for work.

[PFT Commenter]

I was. We were. We were conversing and you just looked directly at the TV and like squinted your eyes. We were mid conversation, me and you. I was doing multitasking.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Zach]

This is.

[PFT Commenter]

Turn off the TVs.

[Zach]

No, it's like, listen, Hank show. He misses a flight and he. He's not here for half the day. You're mad at him about that. And then he's actively taking steps to plan his commute for tomorrow so he can be here on time.

[PFT Commenter]

True.

[Zach]

You won't let him do that either.

[PFT Commenter]

Can't exist.

[Zach]

He can't exist.

[PFT Commenter]

Can't exist.

[Zach]

Hank, I'm on your side.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you. Are you going to run the marathon? Half marathon?

[Hank]

No, not this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. The Chiefs are going to be fine.

[Zach]

So do you think Lamar's actually hurt?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. It was weird. It was a. Definitely a combo of like, oh, we're getting. We're getting dog walked. Maybe we should just sit him. Yeah, but he could have a hammy. I don't know.

[Zach]

Yeah, I think it's. Maybe he felt uncomfortable and he was like, fuck this, I'm out of this game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just. I don't know. I'm kind of just sick of the. I think the Ravens just have to. Have to do something to. They have to. They have to basically win me back to be like, hey, they're fine.

[Zach]

I think.

[PFT Commenter]

And that was going to be what I was going to say out of the loser of this game being 1 and 3. 1 and 3 feels bad.

[Zach]

I think they'll be okay though.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Yeah, they probably will, but I just. That defense is so bad, they got to fix it, like, fast.

[Zach]

The Texans should be a win.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. That pass rush is good. Their defense is good.

[Zach]

The Rams, that'll be close.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that who they have next?

[Zach]

The next two games and then bye and then. Wait, no. So it's the 12th against the Rams and then the 26th against the Bears.

[PFT Commenter]

They must have a bye week. Yeah. I mean, Texans and Rams aren't easy games. No, I know the Texans are not like, great, but that's. That's a desperate team.

[Zach]

You got to win that. That's it. It's a must win. This is the earliest possible must win for the Ravens. They unlocked this week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, now, because if you look at.

[Zach]

This, they have lost to good teams. That's the other thing you can point to for the Ravens.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

Yes, they lost to the Bills. That was a great game. Crazy stuff happened at the end of that one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

But still a choke.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

Defense was bad. They beat the Browns. They lost to the Lions. But were competitive, very competitive against the Lions. Defense, again, still a joke. And then the Chiefs. Those are three very good teams that they lost to. And yes, their defense looked like dog against all three of them. But I think that they'll be okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they'll probably be okay. I'm more. I'm more saying I'm done with the Ravens in terms of, like, being a Super bowl contender. I think they'll go to the playoffs, but I just.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like their flaws just keep coming up.

[Zach]

I don't trust them at all.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Zach]

I. I officially.

[PFT Commenter]

That's how I should have said I.

[Zach]

Moved the Ravens officially into my. Do not trust this team. Do not believe their lies after the Lions came.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct. I. I am going to. I am. I am definitely think they will be in the. In the playoffs one way or another, whether it be winning division or getting a wild card. But, yeah, I'm not going to trust them.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Not going to trust them. All right. Packers, Cowboys, 40 to 40. We talked about it throughout the show. Sunday Night Football ties should be illegal. Sunday Night Football ties should be illegal.

[Zach]

I want to go to bed with some sense of finale.

[PFT Commenter]

You have to end the day with a winner and a loser. What are you shaking your head for, Max?

[Max]

I love ties. Dude, we root for ties every time.

[PFT Commenter]

There'S overtime in the middle of the day.

[Zach]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

That's fine.

[Zach]

No, I. I do root for ties in prime time when it involves a divisional foe. Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

But I just. I think you need to have. I demand satisfaction to end the night. I need a winner and a loser. What's that?

[Max]

Ties. T. It's a T for Ty.

[PFT Commenter]

So the packers probably. Or, sorry, the Cowboys probably should have gone for it at goal line. You think?

[Zach]

I think so.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It probably would have helped because then they would have. If they don't get it, the packers don't go all four downs.

[Zach]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Right. So when we were watching the game, it was while we're recording the podcast, and I. I thought that the. The packers had had the ball and punted. No, earlier in that. So when they were going for the field goes like, surely they're doing this because they want to win the game with the field goal. Yeah. That was a mistake. They should have gone for it.

[PFT Commenter]

No. There was only two possessions in overtime. Kind of shocking that the packers defense got lit up like that.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And also the game, it felt like flipped on that end of first half possession where the packers were trying to get a couple extra points. Called their timeouts, got the ball back, and then Jordan Love fumbled and the Cowboys scored a touchdown. It was like, holy shit. This game just flipped.

[Zach]

It's almost like the. The Cowboys, they knew what the packers defense was going to be doing. Kenny Clark is Michael Parsons a mole.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, the Cowboys knew what the packers defense was going to do?

[Zach]

Yeah, that would have been Kenny Clark is Michael Parsons.

[PFT Commenter]

Michael Parsons was telling the Cowboys.

[Zach]

I'm thinking Jerry's like, hey, we're going to do this big feud.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Zach]

We're going to send you up to Green Bay because they keep kicking. Kicking our ass, especially in the postseason.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And you're going to be my guy on the inside up in Green Bay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Let me know what the defensive game plan is going to be tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Zach]

And then their defense wasn't good enough to. To get a win out of it, but their offense was.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, it was. It did feel like one of those. And I'm a big believer in this, that now the. The Cowboys defense is not good. But I do think the packers defense is better than what they showed tonight because I do think there are times when the Big 12 game breaks out and there's nothing you about it. And it's like just the flow of the game gets chaotic and both defenses. I mean, George Pickens was awesome.

[Zach]

He was great tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

So good. Fucking love George Pickens. Felt like all those deep shots were working and. But the packers were moving the ball however they wanted as well.

[Zach]

Yeah. Josh Jacobs with a good night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. It was really that the reason why we got to a tie was that fumble by Jordan Love at the end of the first half.

[Zach]

This is crazy because it's. Honestly, it was a very fun game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

Very fun game. That's. I think that's why you're upset that it ended in a tie.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct. I wanted to. I want to have a winner and loser.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Saturday Night Football doesn't have as much to do with it as just a 40, 40 football game should have a winner. It feels like somebody should win a game. That's 40, 40.

[PFT Commenter]

Also why can't we just do the college football overtime, the new one like player safety, all that shit. I understand, but wouldn't that be less plays? Yeah, I know the two point conversion is kind of clunky. The two point conversion fest is a little clunky, but.

[Zach]

Well, so the packers beat the Cowboys because it's a tie. So they retained the win from the last time that they played.

[PFT Commenter]

From last because it was 40. 40 time. Yeah. Yeah. I, I don't know. I just. I. I'd like, I'd like satisfaction like a winner and loser.

[Zach]

I'm okay with having that little dash one at the end of each. That's funny record. And then that, that screws everything up at the end of the year. Yeah, I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that. That part is funny. All right, rollback question. Before we get to who's back of the week. Rollback question. R, H, O, b a c k.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code. Take Hank Ryder Cup. Let's talk about it. Yeah. So go ahead.

[Zach]

The.

[PFT Commenter]

The US just didn't.

[Hank]

Didn't give himself a shot to win. I mean they got as close as they could on Sunday, but they being down seven points going into singles, you're. You're statistically never going to win that. Weird pairings. I don't know what Keegan was doing. Very, very weird pairings.

[Zach]

Yeah, the one that he had with was it Morikawa in English and it was like statistically the worst possible pairing that he pot that he ever could have come up with.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Zach]

Based on the math.

[Hank]

And then he just did it again.

[Zach]

Just going with his gut.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I don't know what the thinking was there, but he did it.

[Zach]

Like, are they on Friday?

[Hank]

God, everyone was like, everyone got roasted for it. Then he's like, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna do the same thing.

[Zach]

And then he had his two best. Was it Bryson and Scotty?

[Hank]

That was, that was the afternoon of Saturday. That was like a desperation like we gotta get a super team.

[Zach]

In English. That was just like, let's throw this one.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess.

[Hank]

I don't, I don't know what the thinking was there and I. Especially when it came out where it's like, like. And they said that the Europe, you know, was using data and doing a lot of stuff with, with data for picking their matchups. Clearly the USA was not doing that. And then when they Were told, like, that was statistically the worst matchup you could have picked. To do it again was weird.

[PFT Commenter]

So my biggest takeaways from this one was, why did they not make the course harder?

[Hank]

Because they said that the. It was. That was an advantage for the U.S. but it wasn't. It was not.

[PFT Commenter]

Because it was basically, I saw the statistic halfway through Saturday where they're like, the US And Europe are basically identical in tea to green, and it's become essentially a putting contest, and Europe is kicking their ass.

[Zach]

And putting and the greens weren't difficult.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. And they're just working them, and there was no, like, bad spots to hit it.

[Hank]

And the courses. That's what the course is known for, is being hard.

[PFT Commenter]

But they, like, Nerf the rough. And the other one was, I just feel like Team Europe, they like each other way more definitely. And it actually matters in this type of tournament where, like, you can be partners with someone, fight with someone. Like, Justin Rose and Tommy Fleetwood almost made out. They were fucking embracing.

[Zach]

They loved it.

[PFT Commenter]

They were embracing, like. Like a guy coming back from war.

[Zach]

It was, I think, partially that they like each other, but also partially that. That they really, deeply, deeply care about the Ryder Cup.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Zach]

And I think that our golfers, they want to win the Ryder Cup. They take it seriously, But I don't think that they, like, this isn't the most important thing to them.

[PFT Commenter]

It just felt like. Like when Bryson would try to get everyone pumped up, it felt like it was not contrived, but a little bit contrived. And then when Justin Rose and Tommy Fleetwood are fucking, literally making out on the green, it's the most passionate moment of their lives.

[Zach]

So I was. I was rooting hard for Bryson on Friday. I put a bet on him also rooting for the United States. And it. It got very frustrating to watch every shot that Bryson hit that doesn't go the way that he wanted to. Yeah, he, like, looks at his club, like, looks at the ground like it's everybody's fault. But Bryson swing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Like, he did the calculations in his head perfectly. And if it doesn't go exactly where he thought it was going to go, then he's like. He's like something in this. In the universe must be conspiring against me.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They just pulled up to Tommy Fleetwood. That's two lovers, the way they're embracing. Yeah. No, Bryson. And then Bryson had his moment with Justin Rose. That was. It felt like he was in the wrong. Was that not right? Like, Bryson tried to fight him basically, like, almost Got physical. It got. There was. Thank God that the US came back on Sunday because I think think this was trending to be one of the most embarrassing Ryder Cups ever.

[Zach]

It was an ass kicking.

[PFT Commenter]

It was ass kicking. We had. State troopers had to get involved because the fans were. And I'm all for, like. I think we all agree on this podcast. We love fans getting unruly and heckling all that stuff. But I think the problem was guys, fans were doing it, like when they were like about to swing on a putt and like about to hit a tee shot.

[Zach]

And I think Rory's wife might have gotten hit with something.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it looked like a drink got knocked into her hat is what the. The further footage showed. But yeah, Rory was. I gotta give credit to Rory. I feel like he handled it. I know he's like, said like, fuck.

[Zach]

You one day, but that was actually pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And then we also had the most embarrassing video of all time where they were trying to get us to do a bunch of chance. Whereas, like, we will, we will rock you instead. Scotty. Scotty Scheffler. Yeah, that was.

[Zach]

The MC had to. The MC was either fired or resigned. The one that led the fuck you, Rory chant.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that. That was one of the most embarrassing videos I think I've ever seen. And that was what we were talking about last week, that Europe just does the chance better and all that stuff. We had someone trying to hold their hand to do a chant. Not only a chant, but also to a song that was a British song. Wasn't that Gary Glitter?

[Zach]

No. There's Queen.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Queens. We Will, We Will Rock youk. Yeah. So figure out a little context on that one. But, yeah, overall just pretty embarrassing for USA Golf.

[Zach]

We don't need a. We don't need a cheerleader.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Zach]

Well, you are. Let me rephrase that. You shouldn't need a cheerleader.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Zach]

Should be organic. You should be able to do this on your own. But yeah, it was. It was a bad showing.

[Hank]

Sunday was exciting.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Sunday was exciting.

[Zach]

It would have been the. Maybe the. The biggest comeback in sports history.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it was 150 to 1 when we were looking earlier. I mean, Cam Young was awesome. Justin Thomas was awesome. Those putts they hit on 18. But overall, I just don't think that our guys care or like each other.

[Zach]

Well, there was also some bad breaks too. Like, what wasn't a bad break was our. Our putting sucked.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Scotty Scheffler, we made it a. Putting was not making anything. He also pretty Much dunked a shot from like 130 yards yesterday, hit the cup and the pin and then bounced out, which, I mean, it's just bad luck. Patrick Cantlay blew a three foot putt that would have gotten him a point. There were some unlucky moments, but overall we just couldn't putt. And we made a course that was easy to putt on if you're a good putter. And then Europe just kicked the out for two days non stop.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

The Ryder cup was pretty much over after the morning session on the first day.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it's Friday.

[Zach]

Even on the first day. Three to one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And then the two dumbest rules ever, that they should fix Victor Hovland being injured and having it be a have match where each team gets a half a point. That's the dumbest rule of all time.

[Hank]

And Keegan having to pick basically who's your worst golfer. Yeah, that sucks for him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Harris English. You got to see that envelope get open and just be like, it was me.

[Zach]

I think he knew it was going to be him.

[PFT Commenter]

But I. I was saying to Whitney, like, I wish I had known this rule. I would have thrown myself down the stairs the first day of our Ryder Cup. I would have. I would have given him a hammer and been like, go ahead, just hit me in the fucking.

[Zach]

Could Europe have just said, hey, everybody's hurt. Yeah, we all got hurt yesterday.

[PFT Commenter]

And the fact that a tie, I obviously they won outright, but there was a moment that it was tied and there's a chance that it was going to end. 14, 14. But Lowry hit that putt to get the 14th point and he celebrated like he won the whole thing, because he did. Because if the tie is just whoever won it last time gets to retain the Cup. That's really stupid.

[Zach]

It is stupid.

[PFT Commenter]

Just fucking play it. Playoff.

[Zach]

I would have asked every golfer, did you guys win the Ryder Cup? And they would have said, yes if they're foreign. And then I would have said, no, you didn't. You actually retained the R Cup.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So you didn't win. But they took that away from us.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, it'd be electric if they. If all future ties in the Ryder cup, they do 12v12. Alternate shot. Try to stay warm in that one.

[Zach]

That'd be good also.

[PFT Commenter]

You just don't know when your shots gonna happen happens. Like if you're the 12th guy, your. Your shots gonna happen on like hole four.

[Zach]

If it had been a tie, what, what Keegan should have done is go over and say, hey, nobody wants A tie. How about just tomorrow? Victor Hovland versus Harris. Harris English 1v1. Winner take all.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Picture. Hovland better be really hurt.

[Zach]

Doesn't look like he's that hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

Really?

[Hank]

Yeah, he was celebrating after. He's kind of joking about.

[PFT Commenter]

It was necker.

[Zach]

He's moving his neck.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, because I know that neck. Do I. I did say that Victor Hovland needs to be. We need a private investigator to follow him around like he had a workers comp claim. And then I had some European people be like, we would have won anyway. Butterfly effect. You don't know the pressure.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's true.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't know how things go.

[Zach]

It did look like we had a chance, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that was. It wasn't electric. There was a moment on Sunday the.

[Hank]

After Justin Thomas, like Cam Young doing it and Bryson and then Justin Thomas. But Bryson could have like, he came back and obviously got the half. But if he had somehow won that. Yeah, I think we. We would have pulled it off.

[PFT Commenter]

Bryson and then Scotty and there was that.

[Hank]

Bryson, what'd you think about you? I mean, we just. We've been talking a lot about ties and halves. Bryson celebrated the half.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

He.

[Hank]

He forgot to shake the guy's hand.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he was down five, Patrick. Yeah, he was down five. Seven in seven holes and he was already down five. So it was a hell of a comeback. But there was a moment on Sunday where it was like, is this actually going to happen? And we were. It was like witching hour into the afternoon slate and MLB was going on and it was like, this is the best moment ever.

[Zach]

Everything's happening could have happened.

[PFT Commenter]

It was so close, so much fun. Okay, we'll talk a little MLB with who's Back. Let's finish up with our who's Back of the Week. It's brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea. Who's Back of the Week? Sponsored by Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real Brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted tea is the perfect alcohol beverage to keep the good times going all season long. Whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or just seeing where the day takes you. Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time a great time. Keep it twisted. Grab a tea. It's game time. Stock up on ice cold Twisted Tea today. Hank. Who's back of the week?

[Hank]

Who's back of the week is Jason Tatum.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

He posted a video. He's working out. He's. He's back on the Achilles. He's working out. When you have a star player for your basketball team and they get hurt and you think it's going to be a long injury, and you get to see them, you know, on video, and you just hear him talk in interviews and hear the staff talk about how hard he's working and how much he wants to be back on the floor. It's just very reassuring.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Hank]

I don't know that I want him to come back this year. I feel like he's. It looks like he's gonna.

[Zach]

Has Brad Stevens said anything about it?

[Hank]

He just. They just do. The coach be like, we're gonna, you know, try to get it back as soon as we can, but we don't want to rush it.

[PFT Commenter]

It was kind of shocking to see him running up and down the court.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, holy shit, he just tore his Achilles. Yeah. So you think he's gonna play this year?

[Hank]

I don't know. I hope he doesn't, but I feel like he really wants to.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So he's working out six days a week.

[Zach]

I think what's going to happen is he's going to continue to put up all these workout videos, and then you're going to think the whole year, like, maybe we'll get him back for the playoffs, and then he won't come back.

[Hank]

I'd be fine with that, though. I don't want to. I definitely. You don't want to rush it.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a long game. Yeah. Yeah.

[Zach]

I feel like you got to tell them at the start of the. Hey, no matter. No matter what, you're not playing this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, happy for you, Hank.

[Zach]

Very happy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

Pft. Your who's Back of the Week.

[Zach]

My who's Back of the Week is growing the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Zach]

Developing the international audience for the NFL. Hank, you like this super bowl halftime show?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

Baboni.

[Hank]

Bad Bonnie.

[Zach]

And now I'm just addicted to saying every. Every name like Babon.

[Hank]

Bad Bunny.

[Zach]

Bad Bunny rips.

[Hank]

I don't know the people that don't like Bad Bunny.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, you got to remember the super bowl halftime show is going to be. I mean, it's. It's Twitter, so it's like a small echo chamber. But there's a lot of people who watch football that probably don't know who Bad Bunny is and want it to be Aerosmith or, you know, the Rolling Stones. It's not.

[Zach]

Metallica would have ripped.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So they're going to just be like, this sucks. And it's like, I don't give a fuck. I'm going to watch football. Super bowl halftime show. I don't really care. I'll say it. I do not care.

[Zach]

Yeah. It's important to me because I like to see how it's being satanic.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I like to wake up the next day and be like, hey, here's what the NFL was trying to message you during the halftime show. And read all those, because those, those are some of the most schizophrenic people on planet Earth. And I love taking a dip into their brains. But, yeah, I, I, I do not watch the super bowl for the halftime show.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. I'll say it. If you have a hot. Take a really strong opinion about the super bowl halftime show. You're not a fucking football guy guy. You're, you showed yourself.

[Hank]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

You're, you're, you're, you're inglorious bastards doing the three.

[Zach]

You got to watch film at halftime.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Got to figure out what to bet in the second half.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. B. Anyone who's pissed off, guess what? You don't like football. You're, you're, you're anti football.

[Zach]

It is addictive to say, B. There's a lot of quarterbacks that you can do the bat. Bon. Josh Allen.

[PFT Commenter]

Josh Allen.

[Zach]

Mike panics. Like, panic.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So Bad Bunny Baboni.

[Zach]

He's back. He's back. I was hoping for Metallica. I thought Metallica would have been a good choice. It is like their part of the world, so that would have been cool to see them play there. I was also thinking maybe Miley would have been great forever. I think everybody would have loved Miley.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

But yeah, Taylor Swift, that would have been. The NFL doesn't want to make it that obvious that they're rigging everything for the cheat.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because didn't you say the Easter eggs were saying that she was going to be it?

[Zach]

The Easter eggs? Well, there were a lot of Easter eggs.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

That were saying that. She was like pointing to the number, whatever it was. 660. I forget.

[PFT Commenter]

So what, what happens to everyone who did the Easter eggs and said that she's 100% doing the halftime show. There should be a penalty.

[Zach]

Well, it's like the people that wasted our time that predicted the rapture.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You wasted our time.

[Zach]

Gotta kill yourself.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, kill yourself. You wasted our time. Mm. Because that was, that was a big thing all the way. She talked about it, the clock behind her, the numbers. You wasted Our time.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But everything's a thing.

[Zach]

But sometimes you try to make it a thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right. My who's back of the week is playoff baseball, boys. It's time season ended. We had a wild end of the season. So the big story I would say is the Guardians and what they did in the last month and a half of the season. The Guardians won the AL Central with with a walk off home run, which they didn't even need the win. But it was kind of awesome that they did that. The Guardians were at one point on July 6, they were 40 and 48. They had lost 10 in a row and there were 15 and a half games back from the Tigers. And you're like, well that's July 6th. That's a really long time ago. Yeah. Of course they were under.500 until August 26th. Okay. They were 10 games back then. They were nine and a half games back on September 10th, I believe. It's insane what they did. And the Tigers, obviously they fell apart. The Tigers, from August 23rd to the end of the season, the Tigers went 9 and 22. The Guardians, from August 26th to the end of the season went 23 and 8. It was insane. So what a season. What a. It also is.

[Zach]

Guardians also have to be pumped that they're playing against the Tigers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And they're playing at home against the Tigers. It also probably will ruin a few fan bases and general managers going into the Future when they're 15 and a half games back and they're like, we're still in this.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For the Guardians. Yep. Because imagine, think about this. Not only the fact that they. Because they had already clinched the playoffs, I think it was like two days ago, three days ago, but the fact they won the AL Central now emboldens every general manager because it wouldn't have been as cool to be like, hey, remember when The Guardians were 15 and a half games back and they made the wild card?

[Zach]

They get to just be like, wait, my, my formula is about to kick in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Now they get to trust the process, the stats, the numbers work.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They're 15 and a half back and they won the division. Yeah. That's crazy.

[Zach]

Things are about to regress to the mean. My stats are going to get us to the playoffs. Just hang on.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the other one, the Mets memes. The Mets at one point had the best record in baseball. They were 45 and 24. They were 9 and 15 in September. They ended up 83 and 79. 45 and 24 to 83 and 79 and credits the Reds. I'm happy for the Reds. Reds haven't been in the playoffs since 2013. So awesome, awesome story for them.

[Zach]

Jeff Pass and told you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Jeff Passon, who will get on later this week, he told us on pardon my take that he was the. They were the dark horse. Also, do you see Terry Francona? I think it was Friday. Maybe it was Thursday. He said he got to the park, they had a night game. He got to the park at 9:45 in the morning and got in full uniform.

[Zach]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

So jacked up for baseball.

[Zach]

That's the baseball man in him.

[PFT Commenter]

There's no, like, what else am I going to do?

[Zach]

There's nobody more baseball than Terry Francona.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So Reds, awesome story. Mets memes, what do you got?

[Zach]

This is also Reds aren't really an awesome story.

[PFT Commenter]

They lost today. Like the Mets are just a bunch of spineless pussies and they just couldn't keep. Oh, damn.

[Zach]

But it's. That's cool for the Reds. Yeah, good for the Reds.

[PFT Commenter]

Good for the Reds. No, good for the Reds. Good, good for the Reds. The Reds, they're gonna get their teeth kicked in by the Dodge. Okay. The Reds are a small market team. The Mets spent so much fucking money and Steve Cohen said they will, he promised the World Series in three to five years.

[Zach]

No, he said, he said he'd be.

[PFT Commenter]

Disappointed if they didn't. So is he disappointed? Oh yeah.

[Zach]

I hope he goes on a rage spending sp spree. He's gonna spin his way out of this. I hope so.

[PFT Commenter]

The Mets also finished the season oh and 67 when trailing after eight innings.

[Zach]

That's a crazy stat that I.

[PFT Commenter]

The first time I heard it one.

[Zach]

Time I was like, that's a, that's a Frank stat.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And it is a Frank stat, but it's actually the rare Frank stat that's also true.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And Pete Alonso was out the door before the game ended.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh yeah. I was shocked when I saw that. He's out. He's a free agent again.

[Zach]

He's opting out, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Opting out of his contract.

[Zach]

Good chance he. He comes back.

[PFT Commenter]

I would say there is a good chance, but you never know.

[Zach]

I heard you guys were signing Josh Bell. That's what Frank said.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think.

[Zach]

But Frank's been on a heater recently.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Frank was right. He actually say Frank was right.

[Zach]

He told me this team sucked even when they were good.

[PFT Commenter]

Say Frank was right.

[Zach]

Yeah, Frank was right.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so we have guardians hosting the Tigers, Yankees Hosting the Red Sox.

[Hank]

Exciting.

[PFT Commenter]

You excited?

[Hank]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The Cubs are hosting. The Padres excited for that one. And the Dodgers are hosting the Reds.

[Zach]

Hank, who are you rooting for? Your Padres socks and pods? You're a big San Diego guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So we'll. We'll. We'll be doing late shows to recap the games I'm going to go to. Go to. I'm very excited to go to playoff baseball regularly again. I caught a foul ball. Yeah, that's off my chin. Yeah.

[Hank]

Not as awesome, but still.

[PFT Commenter]

Still awesome.

[Zach]

Did you have a glove?

[Hank]

I did not have it land, like, in your seat.

[PFT Commenter]

It landed. So my kids. I was at the game on Friday, took my kids to the game on Friday because they were like, cps had a teacher day or whatever, so they didn't have school, so I took them to the game. My kids were getting ice cream with my wife at the time. It would have hit, right. It would have, like, direct shot on my son's brain, and I missed the ball, so I would have been liable.

[Zach]

Did you keep the ball?

[PFT Commenter]

I gave it to my kids.

[Zach]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, actually, I gave it. My kids friends were there, too, and then one of those kids might have started crying, so I gave it to him.

[Zach]

So they have to. They have shared custody of the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Nights and weekends.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, my kids have. Have gotten a couple balls, too, to, like, get, like, tossed to him. But, yeah, it was cool. I have the. I have the video. I did a. I did a really good job of holding it up. Like, I caught it really quickly because I didn't catch it, so, like, I wanted. Oh, you know what I mean?

[Zach]

People to think.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. Like, everyone's like, oh, he caught it.

[Zach]

Oh, that ball didn't hit him on the chin.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it hit it. It hit right on my chin. It was. It was thrilling, though. I've never had a ball even hit close to me.

[Zach]

Did you go back and try to find the. The, like, game feed to see if it caught you?

[PFT Commenter]

No. Yeah, no, I'm sending it to Max right now. Dom sent it to me right away.

[Zach]

Oh, it's the actual.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the game feed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I should have made a better play, but I also never had a ball even come close to me. And also my seats are, like, close to the net, so I've never seen a ball hit in where my seats are.

[Zach]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

So when it started happening, I was like, holy shit, is this coming to me? Here it is. There you go. And then I was like, I got it.

[Zach]

Yeah, there Was a clear reach down there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, yeah, I, I, I missed it. It hit the ground, hit my chin, and then I got it.

[Zach]

That's what I love about Wrigley is they'll, they'll, like, boo you if you drop a foul ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, people were pumped for me. They and the guys next to me were like, we should have gone for it.

[Zach]

Because to me, that doesn't look like a drop. That just looks like a landed found.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. Yeah. Right. It hit my hand on the way down. I'll fully admit that. I just, I think I was so shocked that it was coming to me that I just didn't even, like, think about it.

[Zach]

You're into the sun, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. It was tough. Yeah, you're right.

[Zach]

Tough play.

[PFT Commenter]

You're right. Right? But yeah, that was cool. But I'm excited for playoff baseball. I'm very excited to be fucking awesome.

[Zach]

Max, how you feeling about the Phillies, about the fighting?

[PFT Commenter]

We'll see.

[Max]

We have a buy.

[PFT Commenter]

You're the biggest Reds fan there is.

[Max]

I will, I will be rooting for the Reds this week, correct?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Very hard for the Reds.

[Max]

I will be rooting for the Reds this week. Dodgers are. I mean, we kind of own the Dodgers, but the Dodgers, you know, their, Their roster is just so stacked, and Shohei is pitching, like, the best pitcher in baseball right now, which is so scary.

[Zach]

Are you afraid of the brewers at all?

[Max]

That's so far down the line.

[Zach]

Like, baseball, be one series.

[Max]

But there's. There's another series. The Phillies aren't playing yet. So I'm worried about the Reds Dodger Series, then I'm worried about the series that we play of the winner of that. And then potentially, I'm worried about the Brewer. Like, the brewers still have to get there. Like, the Phillies have to get. Their brewers have to get there. I could be worried about the pods or the Cubs by that point.

[Zach]

Okay, you're more. Right now, priority number one is Dodgers, Reds, Dodgers, Reds. Rooting for the Reds.

[Max]

Rooting for the Reds.

[PFT Commenter]

And then, I mean, the Cubs had a winning record against brewers this year. Kate Horton is hurt, which is very bad. But, yeah, when we played the Brewers. Tough.

[Max]

Yeah, the Brewers. The brewers swept us, I think, back in, like, May, and then we won two out of three this past month. So, like, we can beat the Brewers.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, shout out, excited.

[Zach]

Shout out to the Mariners getting a buy.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Zach]

Good for them. I'm happy for Seattle.

[PFT Commenter]

Very weird that they were finishing the season against the Dodgers.

[Zach]

Yes, A very cursed sports Town, but you can't help but root for the Mariners.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Cal Raleigh is. He's our guy. We're going to try to get him on again before the playoffs start. So, Big dumper Zach, you finished off with a who's back of the week. My who's back of the week is Zion Williamson. Zion Williamson has completed the Luca diet and looks like he lost an entire Zion. Yeah, he does.

[Zach]

He looks fantastic.

[PFT Commenter]

So here's the problem, though, with Zion doing this. What if he's not good?

[Hank]

I think he's good.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. But what if he's not? Because then he doesn't have the. He just needs to lose a little weight.

[Zach]

I mean, they. They always say you can't pull fat, right? Yeah, but he was. He figured out he looks awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

But I'm just saying. What. Do you see what I'm saying? Like you. When you get. When he gets in the best shape of his life, he's got to be good and not get injured. He looks like a different guy.

[Hank]

He played well when he. Before he, you know, was getting hurt and stuff, but I think he's gonna be good.

[Zach]

But also a big part of his game is. Is throwing his body weight around.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Fat ass. Wow. Yeah, he does look like a completely different guy.

[Zach]

Like, if things don't go well for Zion in the first couple months, he might just say, I gotta get fat. I gotta get fat again.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, right. That's what I'm saying.

[Zach]

That's a super easy city to do.

[PFT Commenter]

And good for Zion.

[Max]

I said that about Jordan Davis, like week one that people were running the ball in the Eagles, and I was like, he's got to get fat again.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, right.

[Max]

He is playing the best football his career. But week one, I was like, he needs to be fat.

[Zach]

You think Zion was on Ozempic?

[PFT Commenter]

No, because you can't.

[Zach]

I think. I think maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

But then would he lose muscle?

[Max]

Athletes got different drugs.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah, right.

[PFT Commenter]

You're right. You're right. Any other stories from Happy Valley? You guys had a. Boys had a good weekend?

[Hank]

Talked to Ro on the phone today. That was. Wasn't expecting that in the Uber talk NFL. Well, he thought he was. Yeah, he thought. He thought he was doing the thing that he does to you. He's like. I was like, I'm out with Pickat, though.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, oh, oh, the Patriots scored.

[Hank]

It was like right after they. You know, I was watching them run the. The pun return back and he called me. I was like, hello? He's like, hey, what are you doing?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because I don't know if I said this on. I think I said it to Chris Long. Did I say here?

[Zach]

You said in the gambling cave.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Week one at 11:59 Central Time. Rossil called me, and I picked up, and I'm. I felt like such a idiot because he just goes, what are you doing right now? I was like, God damn it. He got me. So he tried to do that to you? Yeah. And you're like, I missed a flight.

[Hank]

Yeah. I was like, I'm in an Uber to. To Pittsburgh.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess we'll talk college football on Wednesday. But James Franklin can't win the big one. Nope. We got to get a new Drew Aller.

[Max]

Just loves ending games with intercepts.

[PFT Commenter]

We got to get a clock.

[Zach]

Are you all the way out on Drew?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Shout out the guy. Let me find who sent it to me. It's great idea. This is actually why Max started calling me a. Which is a hilarious insult. Shadow John Collins. Collins. 4000, 820. He said, we need a clock. Big game for Penn State where we think they'll win this time. So we need a clock that just basically is a countdown to their game against Ohio State and then whatever big games after that and after that and after that, they can't win the big one. It's the same game every year. Same exact game.

[Zach]

It's gotten to the point where that's. It's no longer a good thing to have where your team is dominant outside of the big ones.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They should have gone for two.

[Zach]

You've been right there for.

[PFT Commenter]

They should have gone for two. It was actually funny because when we were on Saturday night, it was basically, we were just watching the same thing that we've watched every time between James Franklin not being able to win a big one and Kirby Smart not being able to beat Alabama. Yeah, it was. It was basically just like, we've seen both of these games a million times.

[Zach]

He has a flashback. Also, can we just go ahead and delete the podcast where we said Alabama was completely, completely dead? That the.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, that was.

[Zach]

Brandon Walker program was ruined.

[PFT Commenter]

That was Brandon Walker. We.

[Zach]

We did a Brandon Walker light.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Although I had come around on. I. I watched back some of that Florida State game, and I was like, they didn't get beat like we thought, but they got.

[Zach]

They got shoved around.

[PFT Commenter]

They did, but they were down 7 with, like. Like in the fourth quarter, and they got a bad penalty. That kind of ended the game.

[Zach]

You know what? I'm. I'm actually not Going to give up on that. Take that. Alabama's dead.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, you can't. You can't now because Alabama always beats you.

[Zach]

Yeah, right.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes.

[Zach]

Yeah, we got their number.

[PFT Commenter]

Except in that national championship. Except the national championship. But then also Alabama beat Georgia in the national championship. Yeah, Memes. Should have kicked the field goal there, but that's. Whatever. Yeah. Score prediction for tomorrow night. Jets, Dolphins. I don't know. I'm pretty positive. Fuck you. How'd you fall for that? I don't know. Who misses a flight at 35?

[Hank]

Not me.

[PFT Commenter]

You. Are you? Because you're not 35. Yeah, but you will. No. Yeah, you will. Yeah. That's not the last flight you miss.

[Zach]

No, that man. That man hasn't shown up yet.

[PFT Commenter]

You're either you'll be there by 30, Guy, or you're not.

[Hank]

You act like you've never.

[PFT Commenter]

I've never missed a flight.

[Hank]

Yeah, you didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

When?

[Hank]

Pennsylvania.

[PFT Commenter]

What? Oh. Oh, it's on grit. Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually made that flight after.

[Zach]

Good point, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

New York.

[Zach]

I'm definitely.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I've never missed a flight.

[Zach]

I mean that I'm definitely gonna miss some flight at some point. I'm. I'm playing with house money, so I'm not gonna judge Hank at all.

[Hank]

And I was, I was, I was, I was knit faced. I, I.

[PFT Commenter]

You were nit faced. It just happens. Yeah.

[Zach]

You were balls deep in the beef last night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Just going crazy for it. Were you tailgating with Max's friends after Max left? Yeah. That's awesome.

[Max]

But then again, I ended up leaving.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Headbutting a tree.

[Zach]

The tailgating post loss has got to be like the all time bad vibes. Tailgate. I have some bad.

[PFT Commenter]

But I do think that you got the tailgate after the game is a great move.

[Zach]

It is.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

But after a bad loss like that, it's just you got to kill a.

[Max]

Little bit of time. Hope some of the traffic goes down.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You just sit around. You just like, oh, warm up with me.

[Max]

We just talked about how bad. I mean, it's just, you know, you vent a little bit and.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right, you have three. Yep.

[Max]

33.

[Zach]

I'll go 35. Because once I said that, it popped up on that tv.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, what is your score prediction? I don't know. I'm pretty positively negative right now, so I'm gonna say a loss. But give us a score prediction. 35.

[Zach]

33.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Zach]

If you give up 35 to Tua.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Fire Aaron Glenn.

[PFT Commenter]

No, Mike McDaniel's still a good offensive mind. Yeah.

[Zach]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

They still have weapons. They're not.

[Zach]

They have.

[PFT Commenter]

They have talent on their team. Yeah. I'll go.

[Zach]

I'll go 61.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll go.

[Zach]

Yep. Zach. Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach. What do you got? I'll go 25. 99. Poo.

[Zach]

19.

[PFT Commenter]

19. Jack?

[Zach]

76.

[PFT Commenter]

76. Shane. I'll go 22. What was yours, Max?

[Max]

33.

[Zach]

35.

[PFT Commenter]

13. 13. Love you guys.