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NFL Week 4 Picks & Preview, Seahawks Beat Cardinals, 1 Question With A QB Featuring Daniel Jones, Shane Bacon Talking Ryder Cup + Fyre Fest Of The Week
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PFT Commenter
Hey, pardon my take, listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.
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Shane Bacon
Folks, it's the foreplay.
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PFT Commenter
Guys.
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Shane Bacon
Let's talk Truly Unruly.
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Big Cat
When you spend every day following the.
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Shane Bacon
Countless laws of golf like us, it's.
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PFT Commenter
Refreshing to get a little unruly. Whether that means using the old hand.
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Shane
Wedge to escape the bunker or just.
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Shane Bacon
Cracking open a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules, few things feel better.
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Shane
Truly unruly is the first high alk.
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PFT Commenter
Seltzer that actually tastes good.
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Shane Bacon
It's hard hitting, but still light and.
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Big Cat
Refreshing, making it perfect for everything from.
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Shane Bacon
The front nine to the clubhouse.
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Big Cat
Find it near you@trulyhardselter.com locations. That's trulyhardselter.com locations.
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Shane
Hard Seltzer Beverage Company, Boston, Massachusetts.
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PFT Commenter
Please drink responsibly. On today's part of my take, we have a twofer. We have the return of one question with a quarterback with Daniel Jones. Awesome time with him. We also have our good friend Shane Bacon previewing the Ryder cup that starts as you're listening to it this morning. Get excited, usa. We're going to do week four picks and preview awesome football weekend coming up. We're going to talk Thursday night football. Little MLB playoff race. Been crazy week for MLB playoffs scenarios last week of the season and then we'll finish with some fyre fest. It's all brought to you by DraftKings. Your season, your shot. The NFL season is rolling and every touchdown can bring you closer to a payout with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL. Every game is another chance to cash in. Don't just watch the action, win with it. DraftKings sportsbook delivers the unmatched intensity of the NFL right to your fingertips. From first touchdown score to anytime, TD props or the thrill of live in game betting. Every snap is loaded with opportunity. We have our picks coming up. We have our TD parlay. Which. Oh, do we do? We have someone that we can do. We have someone maybe hurt. Devonte Adams.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
Whose pick was that?
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PFT Commenter
Whose pick was that? Let's throw in another one right now.
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Memes
That was mine. I can do a. I can do an alternate backup.
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PFT Commenter
Backup.
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Big Cat
You should write a name in an envelope every time we do that. That parlay in case somebody gets hurt.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Give us a backup.
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Big Cat
Unseal the envelope.
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PFT Commenter
Give us a backup right now.
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Memes
Right now. Finish. Yeah, I'll find. I'll find a backup.
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PFT Commenter
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PFT Commenter
Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. Your season's heating up. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE to get $200 in bonus bets instantly when you place your first $5 bet, plus over $200 off NFL Sunday Ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV in partnership with DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, September 26th, and PFT, the NFL did it again. They gave us a shit game that looked so bad that had the Arizona Cardinals fan base booing them with their weird jerseys with the speckled sand or whatever cake batter. I don't know what it was. And then we got, yeah, Funfetti. And then we got an awesome ending where, you know, Sam Darnold takes him back down the field, kicks field goal for the win. NFL.
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Zach
He did it again.
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PFT Commenter
Even in the worst of nights, you somehow made it interesting in the end. So shout out the NFL.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
I mean, great job, great product. Kudos to those of us that stuck around the real ones, real ball watchers that didn't turn this game off at halftime. Because if you watched the Seattle Seahawks and the Arizona Cardinals ever play a game against each other before, you knew that there was going to be some weird shit that happened. That's what. Especially in primetime when these two teams play. But yeah, for the first half, it Was like the only noteworthy thing about this game was the uniforms, or as Kyler would call them, the new skins that they were rocking.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Big Cat
And that was like splitting people down the middle half and half. I, I, I didn't really like them, but I kind of grew to enjoy them because I like the cream color that's like in the background.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
I didn't like, I didn't like the speckles. I didn't like the, the like gradient numbers that they had on, but I did like the kind of vintage cream tone that it had. So there was that and then there was everybody just being like, Marvin Harrison Jr. Sucks at football and Kyler Murray is a bummer.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And the helmets too. I like the helmets. That's what threw me off. Didn't like jerseys. Like the helmets also, we should say. I thought it was going to be an awesome Thursday night football game. The way it started when we had the rare interception into a fumble. And I was like, this game makes no sense already. This is going to be great. Kyler Murray tried to throw an interception. Didn't, wasn't successful. Then did throw an interception. Then it got fumbled on the same, on the, on the return. And I was like, let's go. Let's have some weird shit happen. And then it was basically two and a half hours of boring football until there was five minutes left and the Cardinals were like, hey, maybe we should try some offense here.
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Big Cat
Yeah, their offense was, it was painful to watch. I mean they are the all time leaders. This is the worst body language team I've ever seen. Cardinals. It's, it's, it's like Kyler. I think Kyler is really good at a job that he hates and I think, I don't think he like has fun playing football. Marvin Harrison, I think he's just, he's got the yips, he's in a weird zone and he's like not having a good time either. And he doesn't have a leader on the team that's actually like trying to get him to play better. They go to the sidelines and they both just look sad, sit far away from each other and don't communicate. It's, it's a really strange vibe that they have in Arizona. I don't think that they're going to win many football games, but I, I didn't think that they had a chance in this one. And then they did.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, the, our, our good friend Trill Withers said he asked a question. Have Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray ever met each other? And that was a fair question in the first half, because it did look like they had never spoken before. The body language, the way they were just like the passes. Marvin Harrison just dropping one, basically handing an interception away. Yeah, it was in. I. I'm so the beginning of this game. I think the Seahawks are good. I think their defense is very good, and I just think they're good. Like, I'm high on the Seahawks, and I'm low on the Cardinals. So for the first 50 minutes of this game, I was like, I fucking. No ball. Like, I got this. I. I know.
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Zach
Ball.
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PFT Commenter
I've been saying the Cardinals are not a very good team and a bummer to watch. And then they. And then there's that. You know what I mean? What we watch at the end, that Kyler Murray, that big scramble, the beautiful pass to Marvin Harrison for a touchdown, it's in there somewhere. And it's so. It's such a tease that it's there, and it just doesn't consistently. It's not consistently there. And if you're a Cardinals fan, you have to be so frustrated because you see the flashes and it just doesn't. You can't do 60 minutes of it.
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Big Cat
You know, the thing that. That irritates me the most about Kyler is when he gets out of the pocket and he runs towards the line of scrimmage and he could try to make something happen. He's probably the most athletic dude on the field. He's. He's one of the shiftiest. He's quick, he's electric. He's small, so he's kind of hard to tackle. And then he gets to the line of scrimmage, and instead of trying to make a linebacker miss or, like, make a cut, he just does the really quick slide, like the fastest slide that you've ever seen, where he just, like, drops down and then pops right back up. Okay, play over. I'm not going to even try to get in yards like I would. You would like to see your quarterback try to win a football game by making somebody miss or by trying to pick up a first down. I don't think he realizes that you're allowed to do that, or he didn't until the fourth quarter today when he's like, okay, I'm running. I might as well try to get a first down, pick up some yards, see if we can get a touchdown, tie the game up. Yeah, like, where was that for the first three. Three quarters?
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PFT Commenter
It was crazy. And probably a lot of credits this the Seahawks defense because they did feel like, they were all over the place. Even. Like, remember that flea flicker where they just timed a perfect blitz off of both edges and it was just like, okay, this was stupid. It was. It was actually the one moment the Cardinals had a little offensive success and removing the ball, and then they tried a flea flicker and they got sacked. We also had the Cardinals kind of a bummer when they showed the graphic. 2018 first round quarterbacks. Baker Mayfield was there, Sam Darnold, who was beating them in the. In the process of beating them. Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, who was on the Cardinals for a single year, and then Lamar Jackson. That was. That was tough to see. And yeah, I don't know. Like, the Seahawks own the Cardinals. They've won eight straight against them. The also the favorites are now four. No straight up on Thursday Night Football. Something to note, not against the spread because the Bills last week, but I. Yeah, I mean, it was. I got to say, like, in terms of Thursday Night Football games, we've seen worse. We thought it was going to be the. We thought we were going to be able to start this show. I almost texted you guys when it was 22 or 17 to 3 being like, should we just record? And then there was just a little bit of something from the Cars like, oh, shit, we probably got to stay. Probably got to watch the end of this. And it was. Ended up being a good game at the end.
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Big Cat
It was one of those games where the Seahawks had it in hand for so long and I kept re looking at the score and doing, what's 17 minus 3? That is 14 points.
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Zach
Right?
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Big Cat
Like, this is. They're not out of it. It feels like they're out of it, but I know for a fact that that equals 14 and that's two touchdowns, so anything could happen. I got a crazy Marvin Harrison Jr. Stat for you.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Big Cat
How many missed or how many. How many broken tackles do you think Marvin Harrison Jr. Has over the course of his admittedly short NFL career so far?
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PFT Commenter
3.
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Big Cat
Nope. Hank, do you want to guess?
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Shane Bacon
1.
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Big Cat
No, he has. 0. He's never broken a tackle, but that's.
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PFT Commenter
Also not really what he's supposed to be doing. He's got. He just got to be catching the ball. He's got to be getting up there and catching the ball and beating guys down the field. But yeah, he should have at least.
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Big Cat
Yes, you could luck your way into a missed tackle at some point. He's like the biggest guy on the.
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PFT Commenter
Field, but he's not a slot receiver.
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Big Cat
But yes, yes, ideally, it'd be nice if he had one.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
No, I'd agree. I'd agree, but I. I think you got to, like, if you're a coach for Marvin Harrison, you can't be like, hey, we got to start breaking tackles. We got to just focus on catching the ball first, then elevate to breaking tackles.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
I'm not saying that they should, like, coach him up on. Okay, here's how. We're going to be more physical at the point of contact. Marv.
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PFT Commenter
Actually, it's not even catching the ball. It's. The first step is not giving the other team easy interceptions that like. Like, the first thing we got to teach him is to bat the ball down, then catch the ball, then make some moves.
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Big Cat
Yeah. The first thing is, like, know where you're supposed to be. And then the second thing is, if you are in the place that you're supposed to be, don't let the other guys step in and catch it.
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PFT Commenter
Right.
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Big Cat
And third thing is, after you catch it, don't fumble it in the air and bobble it and then let the other guy catch it. Then it's make the catch. And then after that, it's like, try not to get tackled immediately.
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PFT Commenter
Right, Right. Exactly.
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Big Cat
But that was a great catch that he had at the end of the game. That was an awesome throw by Kyler. Great catch by Marv. And then credit to Sam Darnold. Threw an absolute seed down the sideline to jsn.
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PFT Commenter
Well, and also shout out to kicker for the Cardinals for fucking that up. How do you not get it to the 20? Like, that's. I know people are going to blame the new rules, but the new rules are like, we've had two years of it. Just kick it. Kick it to the. You got to get in the landing zone. Like, that cost them. And now then the Seahawks were one play away, and that's all they needed. They need one play and a run and they got the field goal.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
I mean, actually, it was two really nice passes by Sam Darnold in the fourth quarter to jsn.
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Zach
Yes.
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Big Cat
After he went completely MIA in the first, like, two and a half, three quarters. Finally. Finally incorporated him into the downfield passing game a little bit. That was nice to see.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. We also had. Last thing about this game, we had the rare shout out to fan. Actually, I. I'll say it. If we. If someone can find him, we'll have him on the show.
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Zach
The.
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PFT Commenter
The Cardinals fan with the ponytail that. I don't know if you saw him. Pft. He didn't even need. Like, I Sent it to Memes to. To face swap Max. But it already was kind of Max. Yeah, it was good. I mean, put the picture up in the YouTube like. Max, did you do a double take? You saw mine? My was just taking a picture of my tv. That was not you, but it looked like you.
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Memes
Yeah, no, I. You said it exactly. I knew that it wasn't me, but I. I didn't know for sure. I was zooming in to make sure. Make sure that that wasn't me.
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Zach
We got memes.
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Memes
I also was like, memes is going.
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Big Cat
To make this immediately.
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Memes
And then I didn't even realize as I was typing it. He posted.
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Zach
He posted.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, we need to get that guy because the ponytail was. I mean, that was. He probably gets so many fucking chicks. Like, you don't get like a rat tail ponytail combo. That doesn't. You don't see that very often in the wild. So when you do, women got to be going nuts for that.
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Big Cat
There's some girls walking around Glendale tonight with a little bit of red paint and yellow paint on the inside of their thighs, if you know what I'm saying.
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Zach
Yep. Yup.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, the whole full face paint. All right, before we get to weekend preview and our interviews, MLB's been awesome. Cal Raleigh, 60th Home Run Shout out. The dude who handed the ball to a little kid. The Mariners actually found him because I hit up Josh, our booker, and I was like, can we find this guy? I want to interview him. The guy's an all time guy because I think they found him and he's like, I don't really want to do media.
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Zach
He's.
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PFT Commenter
He's just a great guy. That was awesome. The Guardians and Tiger series has been incredible. The Tigers finally won one, but they've been just basically all time, all time collapse right now. I think it stands. So if the playoffs started today, it would be. What would the seatings be? Oh, it would be Yankees hosting Red Sox, Guardians hosting Tigers in the al.
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Big Cat
Oh, I love that.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
Yeah, I love that.
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PFT Commenter
Because the Astros are also falling apart. So it's been like everyone's falling apart at the same time.
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Big Cat
Yeah, the Tigers are just in the mother of all slumps right now. Guardians are red hot. I put a future on the Guardians to win the World Series just because of like how crazy this last month has been for them. They're the best team in baseball right now. I don't think they're. They're the most talented team, but like, in terms of the streak that they're on, it's worth a shot at least. But yeah, Red Sox, Yankees in the opening series. That's going to be awesome.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And then we have in the nl it would be right now, it would be Mets, Dodgers, the Reds are still in this. And then Padres, Cubs, Cubs still need to win. I think their magic numbers now two to get a home playoff series in the wild card. But it's been like this is. As much as I hate that every sport has just added so many playoff spots. Baseball's the one sport where I'm like, yeah, this is kind of fun because 162 games, a lot of games. And if it was just what it used to be with four or you know, the one game playoff, I kind of like that there's more teams involved in the last week of the season.
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Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah, I don't hate it either. Memes. What are your thoughts about the Mets.
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PFT Commenter
Right now?
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Big Cat
They're good. I went to the game last night, which is Wednesday, and it was like the worst baseball game I've ever seen in my life. But they did bounce back today. Okay, but like, and they also did.
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PFT Commenter
Get bailed out so hard Wednesday night.
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Big Cat
The Diamondbacks had bases loaded, one out and didn't score. And then the same thing happened in the Reds game. So they, they are, they are getting bailed out right now. So hopefully they just win two or three at, at Miami. But mentally, where are you? Are you, are you gun to your head? Are they making the playoffs?
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Memes
Yes, yes, they, they are definitely set up in a spot that they, they should be feeling okay about themselves.
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Big Cat
There's an excellent gun by Zach.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
Not watching the YouTube. You should check it out. Great gun, Zach.
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PFT Commenter
By the way, I should mention the Yankees and Blue Jays are actually tied at the for the alias right now. So the, so the Blue Jays have the tiebreaker over the Yankees, but the Blue Jays. The Yankees have caught the Blue Jays. Everyone's catching everyone. And it all comes down to this last weekend. It's going to be awesome.
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Big Cat
Oh, and we're getting robot umps next year.
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PFT Commenter
Yes.
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Zach
Yes.
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Big Cat
For balls and strikes. They're going to do the replay and the replay is going to be like it is in the minors, on the pitcher, on the batter or on the catcher. They're not allowed to have any help from the dugout. They have to tap their head to challenge a ball or a strike. So I, I'm, I'm interested to see how that strategy comes into play. Like, if you've got a guy that's not really a team guy necessarily, he's going to be using those reviews on himself, right?
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Zach
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
End of season games don't matter. Should be burning them on yourself. For sure. Have to. Anything else? Baseball. Are you ready, Hank?
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Zach
Yeah.
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Hank
I'm excited. Playoff baseball. Best time of the year. I'm serious. I listen. Baseball and hockey, I've said it.
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Big Cat
It's.
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Hank
The playoffs are the best regular season, kind of boring. But this last week is a nice, like, playoff appetizer where every pitch matters.
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Big Cat
And it's bandwagon and it's.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Hank, you're playing the Tigers, which is kind of interesting because it's like if either team sweeps, the other team could be out of the playoffs.
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Hank
Yeah, it's going to be. There's a lot going on this weekend.
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PFT Commenter
I know. Yeah, there's a lot of sports going on this weekend. This is one of the best sports weekends. These are the weekends we got to close our eyes and just, like, soak it all in, because there you go. Zach. Zach's closing his eyes right now. But, like, when it's like, July, and we're like, oh, man, we'd kill for this. This is everything. We got baseball, we got Ryder cup, we got football, college football, NFL. Everything's in front of us this weekend.
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Big Cat
I think when you look at sports as a whole, this is the best sports weekend, top to bottom, that I can remember.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Hey, guys. None of us. None of us die tomorrow.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
Stay home. Wrap yourself.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, you're mad Max. Why?
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Memes
Well, Hank and I are getting on a flight.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, well, don't die. Don't die on the flight. Okay, that would be a. And I'll say this right now.
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Memes
I don't like those. Those sarcastic groans over there.
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PFT Commenter
I know.
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Big Cat
I'm saying it'd be bad. I hope we do.
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PFT Commenter
If you guys such.
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Big Cat
Yeah, I don't. I don't want Hank to die. He owes me $8,000.
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PFT Commenter
It's in your will.
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Zach
The.
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PFT Commenter
It's like if.
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Hank
7, 500. Now you gotta win some sortlets.
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PFT Commenter
If you guys do die, I just want you to know I will not be mourning you until Monday.
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Zach
Fair.
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Big Cat
That's fair. That's fair.
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PFT Commenter
Like, I'll just, like, wake up on Monday and be like, I forgot Max and Hank died. God damn it. That's.
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Big Cat
You guys will be fine. You guys are gonna have a great time.
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PFT Commenter
No one died in the next 24 hours.
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Zach
Deal.
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PFT Commenter
Zach, your. Your camera is way too HD. I. I feel like I'm watching a fucking porn right now.
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Zach
Dude.
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Zach (alternate)
I can figure out how to dial.
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PFT Commenter
It back we might be too clear right now.
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Shane Bacon
I can dial back.
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Zach
We're good.
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PFT Commenter
I just looked up and we're. You are crystal clear. How do you have such a better camera than all of us?
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Zach (alternate)
Maybe it's just a good day. Maybe the lighting's just hitting hidden decent this time.
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Zach
Not sure.
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Big Cat
I think you just. I think you had a good camera. I think for comms stream setup.
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PFT Commenter
Stream set.
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Zach
Yeah, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Your ring cam, girl.
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Zach (alternate)
I don't have a ring cam. I would like ring.
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PFT Commenter
Can you do it?
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Zach (alternate)
Are those, are those.
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Zach
No.
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PFT Commenter
What is it?
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Zach
The. The.
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PFT Commenter
What's the fucking.
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Shane Bacon
Oh, the ring.
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Zach (alternate)
Oh, the ring lights.
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PFT Commenter
No, the ring light.
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Shane Bacon
I do.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I do have some.
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Zach (alternate)
I do have some lights with no ring light. No, none. No circular lights. They're square.
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Big Cat
Just chatting with Zach.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, we gotta get you streaming.
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Zach
Yes.
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Memes
We've been telling him to get. Get his. He's been practicing his stream setup at home.
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Zach (alternate)
Yeah, we're getting doubt at the house.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
All right. So anything else?
- [22:26]
Zach
Oh.
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PFT Commenter
Another sixer got injured. Jerry McCain.
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Memes
We're not. We're not. We can't worry about that right now.
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PFT Commenter
I did like Max's trees. Like, I have too many sports things going on to even process this. And I completely agree. You can't. Like, you can't process a sixth man who's a good player getting injured in, in preseason hoops right before this weekend.
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Memes
Yeah, yeah. No, it was more.
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Big Cat
There's.
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Memes
There's too many. There's too many things going on. It can't be. Villain Villanova guard also is injured. He's hoping to be back by Biggie's play. That was another thing that happened today. I was like, you know what, let's just, let's focus on football and baseball. That's. Yeah, that's.
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Big Cat
That's it.
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Memes
That's it.
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Big Cat
Birds in the fightings this week.
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Zach
And the nits, bro.
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PFT Commenter
And the nits.
- [23:15]
Zach
Yep.
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PFT Commenter
All right, let's. Let's kick it to ourself. Back in studio weekend preview. Daniel Jones, one question for the quarterback Shane Bacon Talking Ryder Cup. We will have some baseball guests on in the next couple of weeks. Everyone enjoy your weekend and don't die. Okay, before we get to the weekend preview. Game time. The NFL is back. Tailgates pack stands that buzz before kickoff. But getting in nightmare queues, price jumps, getting logged out mid click. All you want is to be there. Beer in hand, losing your voice with the crowd. The game Time app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences In a few taps, it's incredibly easy to use. The Game time guaranteed means you can Trust you'll get 100 authentic tickets on time and at the best price. Plus, fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. Looking at tickets, Hank, what do we got?
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Hank
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Zach
Oh. Oh.
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Hank
It's gonna be a.
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PFT Commenter
What are we thinking?
- [24:55]
Hank
It's gonna be a fat one.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
It's gonna eat the fattest weekend wings. We're just talking about burgers. Before we started recording footballs, I could go for a burger.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, burgers.
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Big Cat
Yeah, burgers is good.
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PFT Commenter
We also just get wings just as like a. It's basically the wings are the. The base level.
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Big Cat
The wings for us, the appetizer, they're.
- [25:14]
Memes
Kind of like, not for me, but.
- [25:15]
Big Cat
You know, they're kind of like breath mints. You just grab one after you're done eating.
- [25:18]
Zach
Yeah.
- [25:18]
Big Cat
Wash it down with a wing so.
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PFT Commenter
You can do it all with Uber Eats. You'll love being able to get all your personal favorite game day foods delivered on Uber Eats so that you'll never miss a play. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals all season long only on Uber Eats. Okay, boys, what are we thinking? Week four. It's a great week. Saturday is going to be incredible. Sunday's going to be incredible. We got some big, big games. And we also have our first Ireland game. Henry, congratulations. You've done it. You've done it again.
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Big Cat
I.
- [25:50]
Hank
We're going to have the guys see the news.
- [25:53]
PFT Commenter
By the way, with the news. Please tell us the news.
- [25:57]
Hank
The NFL released a statement saying, like, that's not going to happen anytime soon.
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PFT Commenter
Super Bowl.
- [26:01]
Hank
Yeah.
- [26:01]
Zach
Huh?
- [26:01]
Big Cat
Okay, it worked.
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PFT Commenter
We can't believe that.
- [26:05]
Zach
Right.
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PFT Commenter
They're trying to get us to soften up.
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Big Cat
Hank, where'd you see this statement?
- [26:10]
Hank
Yeah, front office sports. It was a couple days ago. I'll try.
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PFT Commenter
Pft. We cannot fall for this. They're trying to get us to loosen up and be like, oh, we're good.
- [26:16]
Big Cat
Torn between. I don't want to take my eye off the ball, but I also want to claim credit for bullying Roger Goodell. Being a small piece of the pie.
- [26:22]
PFT Commenter
All right, I'll keep my eye on the ball. You take credit.
- [26:24]
Big Cat
Okay. We did a great job bullying Roger Goodell. Yeah, that's right. Roger Bitch.
- [26:28]
Zach
Yeah.
- [26:28]
PFT Commenter
I don't believe this. I think they're still going to try it. I'm going to keep my eye on the ball.
- [26:31]
Big Cat
All right, cool.
- [26:32]
Zach
Yeah.
- [26:32]
PFT Commenter
All right. We got it covered.
- [26:33]
Big Cat
Good news break.
- [26:35]
PFT Commenter
Vikings at Steelers. Steelers minus two and a half over. Under is 40 and a half. This is actually Mike Tomlins only second game playing international.
- [26:44]
Big Cat
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Which is kind of weird because it feels like everyone's played these international games.
- [26:50]
Big Cat
Also, Aaron, I think they hooked the Steelers up with that because the Steelers are like Goodell's favorite franchise.
- [26:54]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [26:55]
PFT Commenter
Aaron Rodgers last year played over in England. This is obviously in Ireland. Over in England, though, with the jets against Brian Flores, Vikings.
- [27:07]
Big Cat
Yep.
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PFT Commenter
That was a three interception, three sack game. I like the Vikings in this game.
- [27:11]
Zach
Yeah.
- [27:12]
Big Cat
And Brian Flores used to be on the Steelers coaching staff on the defensive side of the ball. And then he left because some people say that Tom Lynn wanted to run his defense, not Brian Flores blitzing all the time.
- [27:24]
Zach
Yep.
- [27:25]
Big Cat
But, yeah, Aaron Rodgers had a tough time with him last year. We got Carson Wentz an honorary ginger. I think he's a ginger. So he'll be accepted in Ireland. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Actually, it's Carson Wentz ginger. Also. Kevin O' Connell now is 15 and three in the regular. Actually, I think it's overall 15 and three with a ginger starting quarterback.
- [27:44]
Big Cat
That's pretty impressive. He's ginger whisperer.
- [27:46]
Zach
Yeah.
- [27:47]
PFT Commenter
He's built for Ireland.
- [27:48]
Zach
Yeah.
- [27:49]
Big Cat
We fucked up last week.
- [27:50]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [27:51]
Big Cat
I'd like to take accountability. Hand up. We up our guy Stat hole sports. When he was trying to talk me into Carson Wentz as the commander's quarterback gave us a nugget that we used. And it's a very impressive fact about Carson Wentz that he's the best quarterback of all time in the history of the NFL. And yards per attempt when it's exactly 73 degrees outside.
- [28:12]
PFT Commenter
That's right. What's the weather going to Be he.
- [28:15]
Big Cat
Was at 9.71 before last week. It was exactly 70, 73 degrees last week in Minnesota.
- [28:22]
Zach
Okay.
- [28:22]
Big Cat
At the time of kickoff, he had another strong showing, 8.65 yards per attempt. So now his average is down to 9.29, which is still the record.
- [28:31]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [28:31]
Big Cat
He's still in first place by a considerable margin in Ireland. It will not be 73 degrees, but it's something that we should keep in mind moving forward with Carson Wentz.
- [28:38]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [28:39]
Big Cat
So, yeah. Aaron Rodgers, by the way, not even in the top 50 all time.
- [28:43]
Zach
Wow.
- [28:43]
Big Cat
I thought that was an interesting stat.
- [28:44]
PFT Commenter
That's a very interesting as well.
- [28:46]
Big Cat
Did you hear what Tomlin said about backup quarterbacks?
- [28:50]
PFT Commenter
What do you say?
- [28:51]
Big Cat
So he said, we were in a similar situation a year ago when we were playing in Indianapolis. I commented to the guys, you know, keep Anthony Richardson upright. Don't put Flacco in the game.
- [29:03]
PFT Commenter
Oh.
- [29:04]
Big Cat
So he was telling his guys, whatever you do, do not injure Anthony. We'd much rather play against Anthony Richardson.
- [29:09]
PFT Commenter
This is just the reverse of bounty gate.
- [29:11]
Big Cat
It is the reverse bounty gate. Safety gate.
- [29:13]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [29:14]
PFT Commenter
But make sure he falls very safely.
- [29:16]
Big Cat
But what the Vikings did with Wince is actually very mean to Wince signing Desmond Ritter.
- [29:22]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's right.
- [29:22]
Big Cat
So if Mike Tomlin's thinking about that, they might be doing bounty gate.
- [29:26]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that might be. Then we might get some bounty gate.
- [29:28]
Zach
Yep.
- [29:28]
PFT Commenter
By the way, I wouldn't be. I. I saw a clip. Sean Payton might still be getting a little bounty gate going on.
- [29:37]
Big Cat
Oh, with the Broncos.
- [29:38]
PFT Commenter
I saw a clip last week of. Of one of the Broncos basically twisting and putting Quentin Johnson into, like, a Ken Shamrock. Whatever. What was Ken Shamrock's move?
- [29:50]
Zach
Was.
- [29:50]
PFT Commenter
It was the leg lock.
- [29:51]
Big Cat
What was it? Was it four leaf clover?
- [29:53]
PFT Commenter
No, I can't remember. Finishing move. Ken Shamrock. This is bad.
- [29:56]
Big Cat
The bulldog.
- [29:58]
PFT Commenter
No, it was the ankle lock. He put Quentin Johnson in an ankle lock, and it was a little unnecessary, and Quentin Johnson then limped off. I'm not accusing anyone.
- [30:09]
Big Cat
Spin zone.
- [30:09]
PFT Commenter
Just saying, eyes out. Watch this clip. Watch this clip. Oh, wait, it's not that.
- [30:13]
Big Cat
That's the Rams.
- [30:14]
Zach
Yeah.
- [30:14]
PFT Commenter
That was different. Okay.
- [30:17]
Big Cat
Okay. At the end zone.
- [30:18]
Zach
Yeah, yeah.
- [30:19]
Big Cat
The spin zone is Quentin Johnson's gotten good enough for other teams to target him.
- [30:23]
PFT Commenter
That's true.
- [30:23]
Big Cat
Take him out of the game.
- [30:24]
PFT Commenter
That's true.
- [30:24]
Big Cat
And usually when he's targeted. He would have dropped in the past.
- [30:27]
Zach
Yeah.
- [30:27]
Big Cat
This time he got up.
- [30:29]
PFT Commenter
That's a great. All right. I think this is it. Maybe it's not. Nope. Oh, yeah, it is. It Ready? Here we go. I'm not saying there's bounty gate going on. I'm just saying that was kind of bullshit.
- [30:41]
Big Cat
Followed through on the tax.
- [30:41]
PFT Commenter
He literally turned around. He basically alligator rolled over.
- [30:44]
Zach
Yeah, he did.
- [30:45]
Shane Bacon
Yeah.
- [30:45]
PFT Commenter
Whatever it's called. And then Quentin Johnson was limping after that. Just something to say. Okay, history lesson. The Vikings literally raided Dublin in 841 AD, took it over, named it Blackpool, which is a pretty cool name.
- [31:00]
Zach
Yeah.
- [31:00]
Big Cat
Vikings have really had to come up in terms of like distance in time from when the Vikings were around. We treat them like they're cartoon characters.
- [31:07]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, right.
- [31:08]
Big Cat
They're awesome.
- [31:08]
PFT Commenter
They're bad dudes.
- [31:09]
Big Cat
Cartoon God.
- [31:10]
PFT Commenter
They're bad mama jamas.
- [31:11]
Big Cat
They were. They were raping different era. They were pillaging.
- [31:13]
PFT Commenter
Oh, okay. For cancel culture.
- [31:16]
Zach
Yeah.
- [31:19]
PFT Commenter
You got to judge them by the era.
- [31:21]
Big Cat
Yeah, they were pillaging. Yeah, they were raping.
- [31:24]
PFT Commenter
We didn't. That was bad yet.
- [31:26]
Zach
Yeah.
- [31:28]
Big Cat
But we have to ask, what were the Visigoths wearing? Yeah, they asked for it.
- [31:31]
PFT Commenter
The provocation there. Also, just a fun, fun little wrinkle is this is. And I saw this on. On my timeline. The last time the Vikings and Steelers played each other, it was the famous chase. Claypool doing a first down celebration with 30 seconds left in the game while they were trying to score. And then Ryan Polls went and traded.
- [31:53]
Big Cat
I. I saw that same thing. I forgot how ridiculous that clip was. Ridiculous. And Big Ben was just staring. I'm like, come on, dude, I'm dumb. But like, what do you mean? I wouldn't do that.
- [32:01]
PFT Commenter
What are you doing?
- [32:02]
Zach
All right.
- [32:03]
Big Cat
You do have Jordan Addison coming back.
- [32:04]
Zach
Yes.
- [32:04]
Big Cat
To the Vikings, which, if you're overseas in Ireland, you are allowed to drive on the wrong side of the road.
- [32:09]
Zach
Yep. Yep.
- [32:10]
PFT Commenter
Was he. Was he. Was it for driving or Adderall?
- [32:12]
Big Cat
It was wet, reckless.
- [32:14]
PFT Commenter
Wet reckless.
- [32:15]
Big Cat
Remember that. What? There's something that you can. That you can plead down to if you maybe had a couple pops. Drink and drive so damp. You don't want to do a full dui, but you're willing to admit to something. It's called wet, reckless internal possession.
- [32:29]
Zach
Yeah.
- [32:30]
Big Cat
So he is. He's back from suspension this week. All I want out of this game. I think that the Irish crowd is different from the UK crowd.
- [32:38]
Zach
Yeah.
- [32:38]
Big Cat
I think I like the Ireland crowd a little bit more.
- [32:40]
PFT Commenter
I agree.
- [32:41]
Big Cat
If you're. The Steelers, give them what they. What do you think would go harder having the. You know, when the players do. The two guys that stand next to each other and their last names make. Make phrases. Would Slay queen. Go harder in Ireland or her big cunts because they've got Christian. Okay.
- [33:04]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, well, I don't like the queen.
- [33:05]
Big Cat
I was thinking that in Ireland, you know, like if call somebody a. Yeah.
- [33:09]
PFT Commenter
Like saying, bro, yeah, but slay queen because they don't like the queen. Yeah, we say slay queen, but they're saying like, no, literally slay the queen.
- [33:17]
Big Cat
Yeah, exactly.
- [33:18]
Zach
Okay.
- [33:20]
PFT Commenter
To back to America where football is supposed to be played. Commanders of Falcons. Falcons plus one and a half over unders 45 and a half. We touched on it on Wednesday. The Falcons are shuffling the decks on the Titanic. Zach Robinson moving down to the sideline. Offensive or. Sorry. Wide receivers coach getting fired. Looking for answers everywhere for Michael Penix. Pft. How are you feeling? Is Jaden Daniels playing? How are you feeling?
- [33:47]
Big Cat
Well, real quick, you know who they're putting in instead of Ike Hilliard at wide receiver coach?
- [33:51]
Zach
Who?
- [33:52]
Big Cat
T.J. yates.
- [33:52]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah, that's right. Yates of hell.
- [33:54]
Big Cat
The eight to hell is making his. His triumphant return this weekend. I don't know if Jaden's playing or not, which leads me to believe that he might not be playing. But I'm okay with it. I'm not worried about Jaden.
- [34:04]
PFT Commenter
You're not worried, but he's gonna miss two weeks in a row.
- [34:07]
Big Cat
Not worried about Jaden. If you had to pick two weeks in a row for Mariota to start, you couldn't draw this up any better because it's Raiders revenge game, Falcons revenge game.
- [34:16]
PFT Commenter
That's true.
- [34:17]
Big Cat
And Mariota looked really good last week.
- [34:19]
Zach
I thought.
- [34:20]
Big Cat
I thought he looked awesome as a basket.
- [34:22]
PFT Commenter
It's a system.
- [34:23]
Big Cat
It's not. Well, it's a great system, but he thinks that it's.
- [34:27]
PFT Commenter
It's good system.
- [34:27]
Big Cat
Well, yeah, yeah, we have a system. That's a welcome change for me. It's a good system.
- [34:34]
PFT Commenter
Marcus might be the guy.
- [34:36]
Big Cat
So Jaden is the guy. Clearly he is hurt. I don't think he's injured. He might sit out this week. I'm actually not worried about Jaden Daniels. I'm not. I think he's going to come back. He'll be fine.
- [34:47]
Zach
Not at all. Not at all. Not at all.
- [34:49]
Big Cat
I. I've become worried about Terry, though.
- [34:52]
Zach
Yeah.
- [34:52]
PFT Commenter
He's injured as well.
- [34:54]
Big Cat
Yeah. So he. He hurt his quad when he was diving into the end zone and then he ran out onto the field, got Luke McCaffrey's first touchdown ball, gave it to him. He looked good when he was running after the injury.
- [35:05]
Zach
Yeah.
- [35:05]
Big Cat
So then I was like, okay, I'm not worried. They said it was a quad injury. Then yesterday comes out he's getting a second opinion on a quad injury. And I would imagine that if the first opinion was good news, he probably wouldn't be like, hey, let me make sure. I'll go get a second opinion. And then did a little bit of digging on the doctor that he was going to go see. The doctor that he's seeing for the second opinion is a core injury specialist, like sports, hernias, things like that. So I'm glad Terry got paid, but I'm, I am worried about Terry.
- [35:38]
Zach
Yeah, yeah, that one.
- [35:40]
PFT Commenter
That one. Because you know, Noah Brown's out as well.
- [35:42]
Zach
Yep.
- [35:43]
Big Cat
Debo Deebo is awesome. But yeah, I went back and I watched more Debo clips. Debo is legit.
- [35:49]
Zach
He's.
- [35:50]
Big Cat
He's back to old Debo right now.
- [35:52]
PFT Commenter
So Raheem Morris said on Michael Penix remaining the starting qb, Kirk lost his job last year. We're not even close to that with Mike. He had a bad game. They just hate Kirk Cousins. Yeah, that's such a mean thing to say. Like, hey, just so we're clear, he, he stunk and we get.
- [36:06]
Shane Bacon
We.
- [36:06]
PFT Commenter
He lost his job.
- [36:07]
Big Cat
Yeah, there might have been. There was some weird stuff going on with Kirk's alleged injuries and the Falcons not knowing or covering up the. I don't know what happened, but it didn't end well last season with them.
- [36:18]
PFT Commenter
The, the other thing, I'll say for Michael Penix, maybe he's starting to figure it out because he said this week I got to throw the ball to the wide open receivers when they're open.
- [36:28]
Zach
Yep.
- [36:29]
PFT Commenter
Got to be worried about that.
- [36:30]
Big Cat
That's a fact.
- [36:30]
PFT Commenter
If he, if he figures out that you got to throw to the guys that are open when they're open, you could be in trouble because if you're.
- [36:37]
Big Cat
Throwing to the guys that are open when they're not open, that's when you run into a pick six on the first series.
- [36:42]
PFT Commenter
Or not throwing to the guys who are wide open when they're wide open, that's also bad.
- [36:45]
Big Cat
Then you get into the screenshots so bad. And when you're lefty quarterback, it looks way worse when you're bad than if you're ready quarterback. And it looks bad.
- [36:52]
PFT Commenter
Pft. I got bad news for you as well. After this week, you won't have another Noon Central kickoff till week 13.
- [37:00]
Big Cat
Oh, I hate that.
- [37:01]
PFT Commenter
That sucks.
- [37:02]
Big Cat
Yeah, that's. That's not good. I, I like being kind of lost in the shuffle sometimes.
- [37:06]
Zach
Yeah.
- [37:06]
PFT Commenter
And also Just getting it like the afternoon slate is so nice to be like, all right, game happens now can just watch afternoon free roll.
- [37:14]
Big Cat
Yeah. So I, I am feeling worried about Terry. I'm feeling a little bit worried about our first overall pick or first round pick last year, too. Connerly hasn't played that well at right now.
- [37:25]
PFT Commenter
Best. Best tackle or. You said best offensive lineman in the draft, right?
- [37:29]
Zach
Well, you.
- [37:30]
Big Cat
Yeah, you say that.
- [37:30]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah. You got.
- [37:31]
PFT Commenter
No. No, Wait, who said no? Mike Tice said it.
- [37:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [37:34]
Big Cat
And you.
- [37:34]
PFT Commenter
That's right.
- [37:35]
Big Cat
And if I find one person that. Yeah, then that's my expert.
- [37:37]
PFT Commenter
Oh, absolutely.
- [37:38]
Big Cat
Go to. So, yeah, I was, I was pumped about him. He has not played very well. We are getting Sam Cosby back maybe in the next two weeks, which is going to be awesome.
- [37:45]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [37:46]
Big Cat
He's maybe our best offensive lineman. And our rookie cornerback, Trey Amos has been legit, like a lockdown guy. So there are some good signs in Washington, even though Jaden's out. Lane is Billard. No, Bill's back. Bill's good. All good.
- [38:02]
Hank
Bill yesterday you're like, oh, Bill might be hurt too. Did I make that up or.
- [38:08]
Big Cat
You said that he was nicked. Okay. Yeah, everyone. Yeah, you get nicked and then you move on.
- [38:13]
Hank
He's fine.
- [38:14]
Big Cat
He's fine. Yeah, no, Bill's good. Bill's gonna. He's ready to roll. And Jalen Lane got rookie of the week last week. And then I think Trey Amos might have gotten it the week before that.
- [38:24]
PFT Commenter
There we go.
- [38:25]
Big Cat
We're continuing the trend of Pepsi zero sugar rookies of the week.
- [38:28]
PFT Commenter
I have one SAP for you. Are you going to. What's. What's your hungry dog this week?
- [38:33]
Hank
I like the Jets. I don't know. I haven't figured out the other two.
- [38:35]
PFT Commenter
The Falcons, Bengals and Saints. If they close as dogs of 1 1/2 or higher after losing by 30 plus points, those teams are 61% against the spread since 2003. Basically just a stat of when you get smoked, everyone assumes you're just terrible forever.
- [38:51]
Zach
Yeah.
- [38:52]
Big Cat
I would have much rather the Falcons won last week than to get their ass kicked and get embarrassed like that. So, yeah, it's going to be. I think it's going to be a competitive game. The key is though, to beat Michael Penix, you got to score more than seven points.
- [39:04]
Zach
Yes.
- [39:05]
Big Cat
If you do that, then those teams are undefeated. Yeah. Less you're going to lose.
- [39:09]
Hank
What about pmt? Hungry dog?
- [39:12]
PFT Commenter
Oh, Bears. Well, the Commanders are favorites.
- [39:16]
Zach
Yeah.
- [39:16]
Hank
Not them.
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Zach
Okay.
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PFT Commenter
Bears, Bucks, Jets.
- [39:21]
Big Cat
Oh, okay. I don't Hate it.
- [39:25]
Zach
Okay.
- [39:25]
Memes
Hank just loves taking. Going against the Eagles.
- [39:28]
PFT Commenter
Well, he loves going against any.
- [39:29]
Big Cat
All of us.
- [39:29]
Hank
The Bucks on the Eagles.
- [39:31]
PFT Commenter
All right, next game, Saints at bills. Bills are minus 15 and a half overs, 47 and a half. I mean, 15 and a half is just a.
- [39:37]
Hank
This could be one of those ones, though. It could have been a week early. What if we were a week early?
- [39:43]
PFT Commenter
So Spencer Rattler is.09 in his first nine starts in the NFL, the other five. So if he loses this game, which I think he probably will, he will join the illustrious 0 and 10 or worse crew. Quarterbacks in that crew. Deshaun Kaiser lost 15, never want to start Stan Gelbaugh. I'm going to come back to him. He won. He lost 11 in a row. Derek Carr, 10 in a row. Zach Mettenberger, 10 in a row. Brody Croyle, 10 in a row. So I was looking at this because I was just like, you know, and I'm just going to look into who the fuck Stan Gelbaugh is. So. Sean Kaiser never want to start Zach Mettenberger, never want to start. Brody Croyle, never want to start Derek Carr. Carr obviously went on to have a good career. Stan Gelbaugh, he lost 11 the first 11 starts he made. He, I think, retired and then came back in 1996, week 17. He started his last final game and he was over two passing. Tore his groin on the second series, but the Seahawks won the game. So he technically won his last start ever in the NFL, then retired.
- [40:56]
Big Cat
That's Mr. 3000, Stan Galba. Yeah, that's great story. That's the plot line of that movie.
- [41:01]
PFT Commenter
One a start.
- [41:02]
Big Cat
Good for Stan.
- [41:03]
PFT Commenter
He was only in for two series, but he won a start. So shout out Stan Galba.
- [41:06]
Big Cat
Let's get Kaiser back in, huh? Yeah, maybe in the Germany game, but yeah, the, the. The Saints losing so badly last week, I, I feel like it's better for them that they have to go on the road again.
- [41:18]
Zach
Yeah.
- [41:18]
Big Cat
Than it is to show up because, like, you're already seeing some of the Saints fans with the paper bags.
- [41:23]
Zach
Yep.
- [41:23]
Big Cat
New Orleans is, is out on the Saints this year. I feel like it's. It's a good opportunity for them to go somewhere away from home and maybe lose by a little bit less this week.
- [41:33]
PFT Commenter
Yes, I would agree with that.
- [41:34]
Big Cat
I don't.
- [41:35]
PFT Commenter
By the way, last thing on Stan Gilbaugh, he. I forgot, like, I just kind of forgot that NFL Europe existed. He. That's basically how his career got rejuvenated because he was a Backup for the Bills, never made the team or was on the practice squad and then went to NFL Europe and became good and then came back and started playing for the Phoenix Cardinals.
- [41:53]
Big Cat
That's awesome.
- [41:54]
Zach
Yeah.
- [41:54]
Big Cat
Good for Stan.
- [41:55]
Zach
Yeah.
- [41:55]
PFT Commenter
I agree with you. Those Saints, I don't know. You can't take the Bills in this game.
- [42:00]
Zach
Right.
- [42:01]
Big Cat
You could. The Bills are really, really good.
- [42:04]
PFT Commenter
I understand. A half point spread is crazy.
- [42:06]
Big Cat
I, I'm going to bet on the Saints and I'm not doing it for, like, normal reasons where I'm like, oh, I think Spencer Rattler is going to be better than you might think or I think Kamara is going to have a great game. I'm. I'm firmly labeling this as a. Do you have any pride game?
- [42:22]
Zach
Yeah.
- [42:22]
Big Cat
For the Saints. So gut check. I'm betting on, like, Brandon Cooks. I'm betting on Demario Davis, who's Mara.
- [42:29]
Zach
Yeah.
- [42:30]
Big Cat
Demario Davis. Been in the league for 13 years. Scraping by, a gritty dude. There are some people that are very embarrassed about what happened last week. That play on the Saints, I feel like they're going to keep it closer. I, I could be wrong. Maybe they've quit, but this is, this is my last stand for the Saints.
- [42:46]
Zach
Yeah.
- [42:46]
Big Cat
If they, if they don't cover in this one. Done.
- [42:50]
PFT Commenter
That's. I, That's a completely fair thing to do.
- [42:52]
Zach
Yeah.
- [42:52]
PFT Commenter
I just. Fifteen and a half is.
- [42:54]
Zach
Yeah.
- [42:54]
PFT Commenter
It's so many points, Hank. You think it's going to be. You think they're actually going to do it?
- [42:59]
Hank
We're getting to that point of the season where we're, you know, one of these games is going to be, you know, the Raiders, Ravens.
- [43:05]
PFT Commenter
Last year, was it Browns, packers last week?
- [43:09]
Hank
Possibly.
- [43:09]
Big Cat
Could have been.
- [43:10]
PFT Commenter
Could have been.
- [43:11]
Hank
But we also were. We were high in the Saints last week. It'd be funny if we were a week early.
- [43:15]
Zach
Yeah. Okay.
- [43:16]
PFT Commenter
All right, next up we have the Browns and the Lions. Here's another one for you. Browns and Lions. The Lions are 10 point favorites. These guys have a trophy, by the way. They play for it in the preseason. The record, the Edmund Fitzgerald trophy. I don't know if it will be up for grabs in the regular season. I just love that they have a trophy between them.
- [43:36]
Big Cat
That's good. It is like Big Ten territory.
- [43:38]
Zach
Yeah.
- [43:38]
Big Cat
So, yeah, let's. Let's get a. Is it a ship?
- [43:42]
PFT Commenter
It's a ship.
- [43:43]
Big Cat
Okay.
- [43:43]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- [43:44]
PFT Commenter
If you want to pull it up, pull up the Browns Lions preseason trophy. It's pretty cool. It's actually like a. It's A ship with two helmets on it, and it looks kind of cool. I wonder where it sits. I. I think they might have.
- [43:54]
Big Cat
It's.
- [43:55]
PFT Commenter
It's a Great Lakes Classic trophy. They have to play with it.
- [43:58]
Zach
Why?
- [43:59]
PFT Commenter
Just. Just use Google.
- [44:01]
Big Cat
Oh, yeah, that's nice.
- [44:02]
PFT Commenter
Oh, there it is. Great Lakes Classic.
- [44:05]
Zach
Yeah.
- [44:05]
Big Cat
So whoever wins, do they get possession of the Edmund Fitzgerald, which is underneath the.
- [44:10]
PFT Commenter
I've heard that it's only been in the preseason, but maybe should.
- [44:14]
Zach
What?
- [44:14]
Hank
It should just be a trophy of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
- [44:18]
Zach
What is.
- [44:19]
Big Cat
It's the ship that's not.
- [44:22]
Hank
Eminem's trail was bigger than that.
- [44:23]
Big Cat
That's a pretty big ship.
- [44:24]
PFT Commenter
No, dude, that. That's just size.
- [44:28]
Hank
Emma Fitzgerald was a lot.
- [44:29]
Zach
A lot, a lot wide.
- [44:30]
PFT Commenter
Are you talking.
- [44:31]
Big Cat
Are you saying. Are you saying. What is that a ship for ants?
- [44:34]
Hank
I'm saying that Fitzgerald was, like, a much, much bigger ship.
- [44:38]
Big Cat
How do you know how big that ship.
- [44:40]
PFT Commenter
That's a trophy.
- [44:41]
Big Cat
Look up.
- [44:42]
Hank
Look up the Edmund Fitzgerald.
- [44:43]
Big Cat
Yeah, but are you saying, like, those helmets are bigger than the ship? So.
- [44:50]
PFT Commenter
See, See how. See how much bigger it is? No, that's exactly the same.
- [44:56]
Big Cat
How can you tell how.
- [44:57]
Hank
Look where the beginning and the end of the ship is. There's just, like, a little bit in between.
- [45:00]
Big Cat
All right. Longer. You mean it's a longer ship? Yeah, it should be longer. Yes. Okay.
- [45:04]
Memes
This is an insane hill to die on.
- [45:06]
Big Cat
It's not a hill to die.
- [45:07]
Hank
That's just not that Memphis Gerald.
- [45:09]
PFT Commenter
It is, but there's. There's two huge helmets on it, so it's kind of distorts.
- [45:12]
Hank
It should be. My point was it should be.
- [45:15]
PFT Commenter
It'd be nice.
- [45:15]
Hank
Nice touch.
- [45:17]
Zach
All right.
- [45:17]
Big Cat
I'm glad we talked that one through.
- [45:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that was a good talk through. So, yeah, they have a. They have a trophy.
- [45:23]
Big Cat
That's pretty cool.
- [45:24]
PFT Commenter
They have a trophy. They usually play every preseason. The Great Lakes classic began in 2002 and was one of the preseason games for both clubs. The winner of the annual contest received a very large trophy.
- [45:34]
Zach
Whoa.
- [45:35]
PFT Commenter
Very large. Called the Great Lakes Freighter Trophy, this award was nicknamed the Barge by many Pete writers. The Battle of the Barge. That's a cool name. So, yeah, I don't. I don't know if they do it for regular season. It would be kind of cool, though.
- [45:51]
Big Cat
Are we on Flacco watched this week?
- [45:54]
PFT Commenter
Possibly.
- [45:55]
Big Cat
I think we might. The offense hasn't been great. They've only had six drives of over 50 yards this season.
- [46:02]
Zach
Yeah.
- [46:02]
Big Cat
Lions have 15 of those.
- [46:06]
Zach
Yeah.
- [46:07]
Big Cat
Cleveland's offense sputtering. They might have A running game, though.
- [46:11]
Zach
Yeah.
- [46:11]
Big Cat
Might have found their answer in that.
- [46:12]
Zach
Maybe.
- [46:13]
Big Cat
I. How long do you think that the Browns can go having an elite defense and a bad offense until their defense starts to just collapse?
- [46:22]
PFT Commenter
Probably they gotta. It just depends on how far away they become from 500. I think if you're like four games away from 500, that's when it starts to collapse.
- [46:31]
Zach
Yeah.
- [46:31]
PFT Commenter
So if they can stay, like they lose this week, then they, you know, 2 and 2 and 4, you know, somewhere around there, as soon as they dip to like the 2 and 5, 2 or 1 in 5 range, I think that's when it falls apart.
- [46:46]
Big Cat
We should also be talking. We. I know we mentioned Mason Graham last week.
- [46:49]
Zach
Yeah.
- [46:49]
Big Cat
We're talking about the Browns. We should be talking about Carson Swessinger.
- [46:52]
Zach
Yeah.
- [46:53]
Big Cat
Is it Schwessinger?
- [46:54]
Zach
Yeah.
- [46:54]
Big Cat
How do you say that? Schlesinger.
- [46:56]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. The Browns nailed their draft.
- [46:58]
Zach
Yeah.
- [46:59]
PFT Commenter
On the defensive side, except for what they did with quarterback was weird. But they should get more credit for what they did on. In the early part of their draft.
- [47:07]
Big Cat
Yeah. The Cleveland Browns have a championship defense right now.
- [47:09]
Zach
Yeah.
- [47:10]
PFT Commenter
I would agree. By the way, I just looked it up.
- [47:12]
Zach
The.
- [47:13]
PFT Commenter
The last time this. The barge was played for was 2014. Bring it back.
- [47:18]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [47:18]
PFT Commenter
So they think both sides say it's dead. Bring it back. I agree, though. The Browns have a championship defense. They just. That's got to be frustrating.
- [47:25]
Big Cat
The Browns should do the Harbaugh thing where they show up with the trophy, but they don't tell the other team that it's a trophy game until they win. And then they're like, we won the trophy.
- [47:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [47:34]
Big Cat
And if they lose, it was never a trophy game.
- [47:36]
Zach
Yeah.
- [47:37]
PFT Commenter
I do like the wrinkle this week of also Cleveland and Detroit being in a pennant race.
- [47:43]
Zach
Yeah.
- [47:44]
PFT Commenter
So you get a little bit of both.
- [47:45]
Big Cat
And Ohio State, Michigan.
- [47:47]
Zach
Yeah.
- [47:47]
Big Cat
These two states don't like each other.
- [47:48]
PFT Commenter
They do not like each other. Here's a stat for you. If you're thinking, oh, 10 points is a lot of points, I don't really want to do it. Under Dan Campbell, Detroit is 22 and 6 against the spread in their next game after a 6 plus point win. And they're 19 and 5 against the spread after a 7 plus point win. So when Detroit starts get rolling, they kind of stay rolling. Not one of those situations. Oh, they just blew out. You know, they beat the Ravens by two touchdowns or I guess it was only eight points.
- [48:15]
Zach
The end.
- [48:16]
PFT Commenter
They can. They can stay rolling.
- [48:18]
Zach
Yep.
- [48:19]
Big Cat
I would also trust Dan Campbell to be A guy that doesn't really let short rest affect you. I have no numbers to back that up.
- [48:25]
Zach
Yeah.
- [48:25]
Big Cat
So I don't know what that actual stat is, but he. He strikes me as a guy that's just like, we're gonna drink more coffee.
- [48:31]
PFT Commenter
And he said it in. He said it in that press conference. I think it was Tuesday, where he's like, our best players practice the hardest, and that's how you get culture. He's like, our best players are the ones that are working harder than anyone else. And that's how you have a situation where everyone buys in. Okay, Panthers at Patriots. Hank. Patriots are minus four and a half over. Under is 42 and a half. Is Tet injured? I believe he is.
- [48:54]
Big Cat
I think so.
- [48:55]
PFT Commenter
So he missed practice on Wednesday. I don't know who the Panthers are going to throw it to.
- [49:00]
Big Cat
Hunter Renfro, who just had a baby. Just had a baby? Yeah, the Hunter and Fro baby bump. I think he's only three to one or maybe like, plus 265. I bet him. Nonetheless, I feel like that's. That's been a bet that's been profitable for us. Yes.
- [49:12]
PFT Commenter
Hank, what happened?
- [49:13]
Hank
Nothing.
- [49:13]
PFT Commenter
What happened? You share with the class memes.
- [49:15]
Hank
Live memes. And made no sense.
- [49:17]
PFT Commenter
What was the live meme? Is it just you on the barge? Edmund Fitzgerald. Yeah, that does make no sense.
- [49:26]
Big Cat
Yeah, no, no, it makes sense. It's Hank as Zoolander.
- [49:28]
Zach
Yeah.
- [49:29]
Big Cat
And he's next to the trophy. Like, he's saying, what is this, a triple France or a trophy for ants?
- [49:33]
Zach
Yeah.
- [49:34]
Hank
That wasn't the argument, though.
- [49:35]
Zach
But.
- [49:36]
PFT Commenter
No, that wasn't the argument. But still. Cool meme.
- [49:41]
Big Cat
I thought it was a good meme.
- [49:43]
PFT Commenter
Do you ever. Are you ever able to turn it off?
- [49:46]
Zach
No.
- [49:48]
Hank
Do you get in fights with, like, you know, a friend or family member or something? And then, like, live meme or, like, trying not to laugh because you're, like, thinking in meme.
- [50:01]
Big Cat
Not that I can remember, but now that you say it, I. I think I do.
- [50:06]
Zach
Yeah.
- [50:07]
Memes
Sometimes I just scroll part of my takes Twitter on, like, a college football Saturday just to, like, look up a specific play. And I'll just. I just go by four pictures of my. Of my face.
- [50:16]
Zach
Yeah.
- [50:16]
Memes
On random fans that I. I'd never seen before, but I'm looking for something else. It's like, oh, there's another one.
- [50:22]
Zach
Yeah. Do.
- [50:22]
Big Cat
Do mentally put Max's face on people that you meet in real life.
- [50:26]
PFT Commenter
Definitely. That's why meeting his brothers was so fucked up.
- [50:29]
Zach
Yeah.
- [50:30]
PFT Commenter
Because it was just like, it's already a face swap. Yeah, Memes. I. I had dinner with my friend last night who was the one who's like, hey, watch out for memes. And he mentions like, hey, I'm happy you're taking that seriously. He's like, yeah, I'm happy that you took. You're taking it seriously to watch out for Memes. I heard you say it on the shows. He's like, thank you for. We want to keep you safe. I was like, yeah, memes is a wild card.
- [50:51]
Big Cat
Yeah, this guy's got to watch out.
- [50:55]
PFT Commenter
I'll give you his number and his address. You can go show up at his house. Meme him to face off him.
- [51:00]
Zach
Yeah.
- [51:01]
PFT Commenter
Hank, what are you thinking about this game?
- [51:03]
Big Cat
Excited.
- [51:03]
Hank
Must win excited. Should be a. Feels like a get right game. Should be a get right game.
- [51:11]
Big Cat
I'm excited.
- [51:12]
Zach
Okay. All right, good.
- [51:13]
PFT Commenter
I'm excited. You're excited.
- [51:14]
Big Cat
Have you heard any news this week about a player on the Patriots, Stefan Diggs? Stefan Diggs?
- [51:21]
Zach
Yeah.
- [51:22]
Big Cat
What are your thoughts on the Stefan Diggs news?
- [51:24]
Hank
It's a clip from a podcast. There's really no. It hasn't been verified.
- [51:28]
Big Cat
I don't like how you said podcast right there.
- [51:29]
Zach
There.
- [51:30]
Big Cat
We're on a podcast.
- [51:32]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but podcast.
- [51:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [51:34]
Hank
Well, yeah, people say dumb on podcasts all the time with no truth to them. So, yeah, I'm not going to, like, listen to some random podcast or say some and be like, that's a fact.
- [51:45]
Big Cat
But couldn't somebody that's listening to you right now say that exact same thing?
- [51:48]
Hank
They. And they should.
- [51:49]
Zach
Okay?
- [51:51]
Hank
We've proven that time and time again.
- [51:53]
Big Cat
By the way, him and Cardi B. Have a lot in common. Yeah, they do. Like, you want something?
- [52:00]
Hank
Allegedly. Allegedly.
- [52:01]
Zach
No.
- [52:01]
Hank
Allegedly.
- [52:02]
Big Cat
No.
- [52:02]
Hank
Allegedly.
- [52:03]
Big Cat
They're a happy couple that's about to have a baby. I'm saying, like, they get along really well.
- [52:06]
Zach
Yeah, they do.
- [52:07]
Hank
Beautiful couple.
- [52:07]
Big Cat
Have a lot in common. You want some of these Skittles?
- [52:10]
Zach
Pfti.
- [52:11]
PFT Commenter
When we did pick him this week, I. Hank was trying to get me to. He was trying to get me with the word weird.
- [52:17]
Zach
Okay.
- [52:18]
PFT Commenter
Because he refuses to say the Tom Brady thing is weird. So he's just like, oh, that's weird. That's weird.
- [52:22]
Hank
No, no, no, no.
- [52:24]
PFT Commenter
What was the. And then I. I just said. I said to Dave, I said, would you.
- [52:28]
Hank
Oh, it's about Lane Kiffin. You're like, well, Lane Kiffin's probably getting all the plays from lsu. And I was like, that's weird. Kind of weird.
- [52:34]
PFT Commenter
No, that doesn't work. But okay, by the way, I was right. That Lane Kiffin, that was all publicity, son. And it's not a big deal, but.
- [52:40]
Hank
It'S kind of weird that he is talking to another player about their plays and stuff.
- [52:46]
PFT Commenter
Oh, no, I don't think that's weird. Because his daughter's conflict of interest. Okay. Either way, I do.
- [52:53]
Big Cat
I do think it's weird that he tweeted multiple times. Take the over. That's still weird to me.
- [52:57]
PFT Commenter
I'm gonna take a football coach. I think he's trying to get everyone to. To go. The misdirection. I just simply asked Dave, do you think the Tom Brady thing, being in the booth and then calling games is weird?
- [53:06]
Zach (alternate)
You've said yes, absolutely.
- [53:07]
Big Cat
Yeah, it's weird.
- [53:08]
PFT Commenter
It's very easy for him. So easy.
- [53:10]
Big Cat
We can all admit it. Although Brady did say that the people who are saying that it's a problem, they're being paranoid.
- [53:16]
PFT Commenter
We didn't say it was a problem. Yeah, Said it was weird. That's totally different.
- [53:20]
Big Cat
Confirmed weird.
- [53:21]
PFT Commenter
Confirmed weird. So wait. This game. You got to win.
- [53:24]
Hank
Gotta win.
- [53:24]
PFT Commenter
Are you gonna win?
- [53:25]
Big Cat
Definitely. Christian Gonzalez playing or.
- [53:27]
Hank
No, probably not, but he's been practicing. I feel like they're not gonna rush him back.
- [53:32]
Zach
Okay.
- [53:32]
Hank
Maybe play a couple snaps. He's been practicing the last couple weeks, so within the next couple weeks, I expect to be back. I don't think it'll be this week.
- [53:39]
Zach
Okay.
- [53:39]
Hank
We'll see.
- [53:40]
Big Cat
He's really good.
- [53:41]
PFT Commenter
He's great.
- [53:42]
Big Cat
Are you worried?
- [53:43]
Hank
Worried about what?
- [53:44]
Big Cat
About his injury?
- [53:45]
Hank
No, he's been practicing.
- [53:47]
Zach
Okay, cool.
- [53:47]
Hank
I think. I think he's gonna be, you know, I.
- [53:49]
PFT Commenter
Awesome.
- [53:49]
Big Cat
I agree. If. If you have a star player who's just a little banged up, they're still practicing. They might.
- [53:54]
Hank
Might not play and have expectations of. Of Soupy. And you're not coming off a, you know, a championship run.
- [54:00]
Big Cat
You clearly said that the Patriots would be the best team on this podcast.
- [54:06]
Memes
Fair counterpoint.
- [54:07]
PFT Commenter
Really Fair count.
- [54:08]
Hank
But we're not coming off a championship. A conference championship season.
- [54:12]
Big Cat
We have just had a documentary called the Dynasty.
- [54:16]
Hank
What does that have to do with anything? What if the Redskins came out with a documentary?
- [54:21]
Memes
Yeah, that was worse. That was the worst counterpoint. I was. I wanted to say it, too.
- [54:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you were, Adam.
- [54:27]
Big Cat
Yeah, I was close.
- [54:29]
PFT Commenter
And then you just lost it there.
- [54:31]
Big Cat
If. Yeah, if this was like, three years ago, that would have been a really great point.
- [54:35]
Hank
Any of the players like the player? The only player that's around from then is the coach.
- [54:39]
Zach
Yeah.
- [54:40]
Big Cat
Yeah, it's true.
- [54:40]
Zach
Yeah.
- [54:41]
PFT Commenter
Okay, next up, Chargers, Giants. What'd you say?
- [54:45]
Hank
And McDaniels, I guess.
- [54:47]
PFT Commenter
Chargers, Giants, Giants, plus six. Jackson Dart time. Let's go. I think you guys obviously saw the story that Eli Manning told. I think it was on the Manning cast. He didn't tell it to us. That was too unfortunate that he texted Jackson Dart and was like, hey, if you need anything, let me know. And then Jackson Dart, like a week later was like, hey, I need a reservation at For Charles.
- [55:12]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [55:14]
PFT Commenter
I think there's never been a story that has more pressure on it because it's either like, if Jackson Dart is really good, that would be like, man, he has so much swag. Like, he was so confident. And if he's bad is be like, yeah, no, no shit. We should have known. Eli Manning said he'd give him help and all he wanted was a fucking burger reservation.
- [55:32]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [55:32]
PFT Commenter
That story has got some big time weight to it.
- [55:35]
Big Cat
It's got some implications.
- [55:36]
Hank
I think it's a bad look.
- [55:37]
PFT Commenter
No matter what, I think it's a bad look. But you see what I'm saying, like, Jackson Dart goes on to have an incredible career to be like, dude, he had so much swag. He's like, I got this. All I need is a reservation.
- [55:46]
Memes
I look at that like he's a fucking idiot.
- [55:48]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah, definitely right now, for sure. And that will be like the sign we should have known.
- [55:54]
Memes
I don't think anything about that is swag, though.
- [55:56]
Big Cat
Oh, if like cockiness.
- [55:58]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, if he's awesome.
- [55:59]
Memes
But I don't think he did that out of cockiness.
- [56:01]
Big Cat
I think that there had to be someone else.
- [56:04]
Hank
He's run into his life. That's like, I can get you a reservation. It's crazy to be like. Like, they're like, in. In. In a similar situation. If you. If Dave was like, if you need anything, let me know.
- [56:17]
Big Cat
I would.
- [56:17]
Hank
I wouldn't. And I needed a reservation somewhere. It's like, I know Dave can get me a reservation there, but there's got to be someone else first.
- [56:23]
Memes
No, that would be if you were first. If you were, like, just hired by Dave and he said that.
- [56:28]
Big Cat
It's kind of like the thing we're talking about with Kyler Murray with the Mike Vicks jersey. It's like, it makes me question his decision making.
- [56:33]
Zach
Yeah.
- [56:34]
Big Cat
Because what he should have done.
- [56:35]
Zach
Right.
- [56:35]
PFT Commenter
If you.
- [56:35]
Big Cat
Let's say you really wanted this reservation, and for argument's sake, it's not at a burger restaurant. It's at like a top tier, like, steakhouse or something like that.
- [56:44]
Zach
Yeah.
- [56:46]
Memes
It's both.
- [56:47]
Zach
Okay.
- [56:47]
Memes
I mean, it's hard. It's like the. One of the hardest reservations.
- [56:50]
Big Cat
All right, so. But what he should have done.
- [56:51]
Memes
I got one from Jersey Jerry, though, by the way.
- [56:53]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I know.
- [56:56]
Memes
That's something to put into perspective.
- [56:57]
Big Cat
I mean, if you got a Jerry on the team, that's the guy that you would go to. But Jerry's not your boss.
- [57:02]
Memes
Correct.
- [57:02]
Zach
Right.
- [57:03]
Memes
Jersey Jerry is not fucking Eli Manning.
- [57:05]
Big Cat
He's not.
- [57:06]
Memes
Breaking news breaking.
- [57:09]
Big Cat
Not fucking Eli Manning. Put that on a cool card. All right, so what he should have done is he should have asked Eli Manning for one piece of advice right before he asked for the reservation. Like, hey, when you're. When you're calling an audible, which linebacker do you look at first? Something. Something easy like that. That he didn't even need help with.
- [57:29]
Zach
Yeah.
- [57:29]
Big Cat
And then you're like, oh, cool. Thanks, man. Hey, by the way, you ever been in this place? I can't get a reservation.
- [57:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [57:34]
Big Cat
Then he'll. I'd be probably okay.
- [57:36]
PFT Commenter
I'm just saying, like, there's a 95% chance this story looks bad and ready, but if he, like, goes on to have an amazing career, you can spin it. He knew he was good. Like, the biggest worry he had being in the NFL was, can he get a reservation?
- [57:50]
Zach
Yeah.
- [57:50]
Big Cat
Are you worried?
- [57:51]
PFT Commenter
I'm saying, yeah. He was like, he didn't need Eli Manning for any type of advice.
- [57:55]
Big Cat
Are you worried about the fact that when he was drafted, very first phone call, him and Dable both ended with love use.
- [58:03]
PFT Commenter
This is a little early for love.
- [58:04]
Big Cat
It's a little early. He should have asked Dable for the reservation.
- [58:07]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [58:09]
Big Cat
Way more of a food guy.
- [58:10]
Memes
Even that would be. Would be off.
- [58:13]
Zach
Yeah.
- [58:13]
Big Cat
But Davis can't.
- [58:14]
Zach
Media guy. Yes.
- [58:15]
Memes
There's got to be somebody there. Ask someone on the. On the team.
- [58:18]
PFT Commenter
Or just call and say, hey, I'm Jackson Dart.
- [58:21]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [58:22]
PFT Commenter
They probably would just say, okay, hey, I'm Jackson Dart. He's got drafted number one or, you know, in the first round. Can I get a reservation? I do like. I do actually like the Giants in this game because I do think he's going to add a little pop. You can't be worse than. I mean, going from Russell Wilson.
- [58:39]
Zach
Yeah.
- [58:39]
PFT Commenter
To Jackson Dart. Like, Russell Wilson was. Was hard to watch.
- [58:44]
Big Cat
I think at least guys will play a little bit harder.
- [58:46]
Zach
Yeah. They.
- [58:47]
Big Cat
They know that there's more on their plate.
- [58:48]
PFT Commenter
Malik, neighbors. I love this.
- [58:50]
Zach
This is the.
- [58:50]
PFT Commenter
He is. He's top my list, number one receivers because he said Malik neighbors, when asked what he learned from the Giants changing QBs last year. They're going to find a way to get number one. The ball.
- [59:00]
Big Cat
Yeah, that's it.
- [59:01]
PFT Commenter
So he's going to do that again. Got to find a way to get number one.
- [59:04]
Big Cat
The ball and dart look really good in the preseason, too, so they're. They're excited. Give the ball to Scatter. Boo. A lot. America wants that. We want to see that angry dude running people over. And they also very smartly signed Young Waiku.
- [59:17]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [59:17]
Big Cat
So they've got a backup kicker situation.
- [59:19]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [59:19]
Big Cat
In New York, because Graham Gano, who's Scottish, by the way, and the Giants, they used to have tines. They. They just love having Scottish kickers for some reason. Gano has gotten hurt twice in pregame warmups in the last two years.
- [59:32]
Zach
Yeah.
- [59:33]
Big Cat
And it hasn't worked out well for him either time. So now they have two kickers on the roster in case Graham Gano gets injured again, stop warming up, or just maybe it might be time to get a new kicker.
- [59:43]
Zach
Yeah. The.
- [59:45]
PFT Commenter
So Andrew Thomas being back for a full game. I know he played against the Chiefs, but it feels like this will. He'll be able to play the whole game. Last time the Giants beat the Chargers. Can you guys name the quarterbacks? Both recurring. Guess.
- [60:00]
Big Cat
Draft night when? Eli.
- [60:02]
PFT Commenter
Giants.
- [60:03]
Big Cat
I'm going to.
- [60:03]
Hank
Both recurring.
- [60:04]
Zach
Yes.
- [60:07]
Hank
What does that mean? Jim Harbaugh.
- [60:11]
PFT Commenter
Last time the Giants beat the charts.
- [60:12]
Big Cat
Are you asking for the quarterbacks?
- [60:14]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, quarterbacks, recurring guests.
- [60:15]
Big Cat
So Eli Manning.
- [60:16]
PFT Commenter
Both recurring guests.
- [60:17]
Hank
No Jim Harbaugh.
- [60:19]
Zach
No Kurt Warner.
- [60:20]
PFT Commenter
No Chargers. Annie Cannell over Ryan Lee. That's a fun one, right?
- [60:26]
Big Cat
That is fun.
- [60:28]
PFT Commenter
You would have kept on going down the list.
- [60:30]
Big Cat
Yeah, I don't think we.
- [60:33]
PFT Commenter
I just saw it. I was like, oh, we haven't had.
- [60:34]
Hank
Many Chargers quarterbacks on, I guess.
- [60:36]
Zach
Yeah.
- [60:36]
Hank
It's literally.
- [60:37]
PFT Commenter
Oh, Drew Brees and.
- [60:40]
Zach
Yeah.
- [60:40]
PFT Commenter
Jim Harbaugh. We need to get Philip Rivers on.
- [60:43]
Big Cat
Chase, Daniel. Chase, Daniel. Call.
- [60:46]
Zach
Yeah.
- [60:46]
PFT Commenter
Herbert. Yeah, we've had a few.
- [60:48]
Big Cat
Also, wasn't Canel a big turtleneck guy?
- [60:53]
PFT Commenter
He might have been.
- [60:54]
Zach
Yeah.
- [60:54]
Big Cat
I feel like he might have been. We need to watch.
- [60:55]
PFT Commenter
I think he's become a turtleneck guy.
- [60:57]
Big Cat
But for some reason, I thought I remembered a clip of him playing in a turtleneck maybe.
- [61:01]
PFT Commenter
That's interesting.
- [61:02]
Big Cat
Yeah, it might be a. Might be a system guy.
- [61:05]
PFT Commenter
Okay. And that was the last time the Giants beat the Chargers. Maybe the Giants will beat the Chargers again.
- [61:09]
Zach
Yeah.
- [61:10]
PFT Commenter
Also, this is Brian Dable's seventh starting quarterback. He's throwing out there. Here are the six. The previously. None of them are over 500. Tommy DeVito, Torod Taylor, Daniel Jones, Drew Lock, Davis Webb, Russell Wilson.
- [61:28]
Zach
Yuck.
- [61:29]
Big Cat
I forgot about the Davis Web era.
- [61:31]
PFT Commenter
Jackson Dart. You need to save Brian Dable.
- [61:33]
Big Cat
Yeah, like this.
- [61:34]
PFT Commenter
That is a tough, tough list.
- [61:36]
Big Cat
That's why I'm thinking he could ask Dable for a reservation.
- [61:38]
Zach
Yeah.
- [61:39]
Big Cat
Stable doesn't really have a. A reason to say no. He has to say yes to everything that Dart wants.
- [61:43]
PFT Commenter
You should ask Tommy DeVito for reservation.
- [61:45]
Big Cat
Oh, yeah, Tommy's. He is the Res guy.
- [61:47]
Zach
Yeah.
- [61:48]
PFT Commenter
All right, next up. I do kind of like the Giants in this game. I think they're going to get a little pop from Jackson Dart.
- [61:55]
Big Cat
I might stay away from it. I might just bet on. On Scatter Boot Score. Touchdown.
- [61:59]
PFT Commenter
I like that. Next up, Booth Battle Eagles at Bucks. Bucks minus three and a half over under is. Was it 43 and a half still? Let's find it. 43 and a half. Are you guys. Zach, you're going to watch in the cave with us.
- [62:16]
Zach (alternate)
I can hear you, sir.
- [62:17]
Big Cat
Yes, sir.
- [62:17]
PFT Commenter
I would like you to be in the cave. I think maybe. Max, in between you and Stephen Shea.
- [62:24]
Memes
All of my anger will be directed towards Stephen J.
- [62:26]
Zach
Well, yeah.
- [62:27]
PFT Commenter
This is a big one for you. You hate the Bucks. The Bucks. So the Bucks. I saw the stat. Nick Sirianni, I think is one in four against the Bucks. The only interesting part of that, though, is A.J. brown did not play in all four losses, and he played in the winter.
- [62:41]
Zach
Hmm.
- [62:42]
PFT Commenter
So he looked three of the four losses.
- [62:46]
Big Cat
He looked pretty good last week.
- [62:47]
PFT Commenter
He did look pretty good. He looked pretty good.
- [62:49]
Zach
Yeah.
- [62:51]
Big Cat
I don't think. What's his name? Desmond Watson. I don't think he's going to play.
- [62:55]
Zach
Right.
- [62:56]
Zach (alternate)
I don't believe so either, but I know we picked him up.
- [62:59]
PFT Commenter
It's going to feel like 103 degrees on the field.
- [63:01]
Big Cat
Are you scared of the sun?
- [63:04]
Zach
Me?
- [63:04]
Memes
Oh, me personally, for sure, I would be very scared of playing in that sun. But I'm not on the Eagles.
- [63:12]
PFT Commenter
That's true.
- [63:12]
Big Cat
Do you think. Do you think they're afraid of the sun?
- [63:14]
Memes
They could be. Nah.
- [63:16]
Big Cat
Zach, do the Bucks do anything with their sidelines like the. The Dolphins do, where it's like the visitors that are always in the sun. Home team in the shade at the Buck Stadium.
- [63:26]
Zach (alternate)
No matter where you sit, it feels like you're in the sun. There's not much shade there. And I. I know scientifically there's probably some shade, but it feels like no shade whatsoever.
- [63:35]
Zach
Okay.
- [63:35]
PFT Commenter
Gonna be hot.
- [63:36]
Zach (alternate)
Very hot.
- [63:36]
PFT Commenter
It's gonna be real hot.
- [63:37]
Big Cat
I'm excited to watch this game.
- [63:39]
PFT Commenter
I am, too.
- [63:39]
Zach (alternate)
I'm a little bit worried we have a bicep pop up. Baker had a limited practice yesterday with a right on right arm bicep, so hopefully he works that out.
- [63:49]
PFT Commenter
Well, you don't want him to work it out like or.
- [63:52]
Zach (alternate)
Yeah, wrong choice words there. Hopefully he gets better.
- [63:54]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you don't want doing curls with the hurt bicep.
- [63:57]
Big Cat
I'd be a little concerned for the Bucks and their offensive line.
- [64:00]
PFT Commenter
Trisha Wurfs might be back.
- [64:01]
Memes
The Eagles defense is also all of a sudden hurt as well.
- [64:05]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. What happened? Did the Eagles just get everyone injured in practice on Wednesday or whatever?
- [64:10]
Memes
Apparently they just through the injuries last. Like last week. Nolan Smith, I guess, strained his tricep and he's out and out for the next five weeks. Jihad Campbell didn't play, has been practicing, and Zach Bond's been limited.
- [64:25]
Big Cat
I have a question for you because I don't know the answer to this. CD Deuce. CJ Gardner Johnson.
- [64:32]
Zach
Yeah.
- [64:32]
Big Cat
So you guys traded him away.
- [64:34]
Memes
Correct.
- [64:35]
Big Cat
Then you put the guy that you got on practice squad, right?
- [64:38]
Zach
Yep.
- [64:39]
Big Cat
And then the Texans just cut CD Deuce.
- [64:42]
PFT Commenter
Correct.
- [64:42]
Big Cat
Do you want him back in Philly and follow up, Is he allowed to play? He's not allowed because he hasn't played enough games for another team.
- [64:49]
Memes
Yeah, he's not allowed. We're not allowed to pick him back up.
- [64:52]
Big Cat
Okay.
- [64:52]
Memes
I would take him, but he's also like Makuba.
- [64:55]
Big Cat
He strikes me as a guy that is a great dude to have on your team and not going up against you, but only if your team's winning. Like, if your team's bad and you have CD Deuce, then there's going to be problems. It's almost like you're. You're doing a parlay. You're getting CD Deuce and also betting on us to win. Does that make sense?
- [65:13]
Memes
That makes a lot of sense.
- [65:14]
Zach
Yeah.
- [65:14]
Memes
I don't. I don't hate that logic at all.
- [65:16]
Big Cat
Texans really weren't doing too much of that.
- [65:18]
Zach
No. No. All right.
- [65:20]
PFT Commenter
You're feeling like a win, Max?
- [65:23]
Memes
I don't know. The Bucks games are. The Bucks games are always so weird. I think we're the better team. I guess we're both health or we're both not healthy. So it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. I don't know. This team. This team just finds a way to win. I think they're. I think they're the better team.
- [65:40]
Big Cat
So Mike Evans is out the hamstring for a couple weeks now.
- [65:44]
Zach
Right.
- [65:44]
Big Cat
And then a Buka is also banged up.
- [65:48]
Memes
But Godwin is back, right?
- [65:49]
Big Cat
Godwin's back. Maybe not 100%. So Quinon on Godwin, I guess.
- [65:55]
Zach
Yeah.
- [65:56]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Godwin and Wurfs both practiced without any restrictions on Wednesday.
- [66:01]
Zach
Okay.
- [66:01]
PFT Commenter
So that would be a big boost to the Bucks.
- [66:04]
Zach
Yeah, maybe.
- [66:04]
Big Cat
Playoff preview. Must win.
- [66:08]
Memes
Every game's must win.
- [66:10]
PFT Commenter
I was reading more about that Todd Bowles nerd. That's a scary thing. Todd Bowles has a nerd now. Yeah, like, it's. It's totally. He's. He has the confidence. Like, I've actually watched a couple of Todd Bowles press conferences. It feels like he's a different guy. It feels like he has confidence that he's never had before.
- [66:25]
Big Cat
Yeah, that's what we said after. He was, like, making jokes about making out with his tight end because he's got a guy that is handling all the complicated stuff we're gonna say.
- [66:34]
PFT Commenter
Zach.
- [66:35]
Zach (alternate)
Todd Boltz historically gives us no emotion, no anything on the sidelines or. And very limited impress conferences. He's like. He's like waking up.
- [66:41]
Zach
Yeah.
- [66:42]
Zach (alternate)
Joking around sidelines, kind of giving us. Giving us. Giving us how he's feeling, wearing emotions.
- [66:48]
PFT Commenter
It's.
- [66:49]
Zach (alternate)
It's great.
- [66:49]
PFT Commenter
I see it. I think numbers were just weighing him down that much.
- [66:53]
Big Cat
He was thinking too hard all the time. And it's the added benefit of. Of sneaking a couple wins here and there.
- [66:58]
Zach
Right.
- [66:59]
Big Cat
In games that they might have lost.
- [67:00]
PFT Commenter
All right, next up, excited for. Excited for.
- [67:03]
Memes
Did you hear me say three?
- [67:04]
Zach
What?
- [67:05]
Memes
You said. You said numbers in that sentence.
- [67:07]
PFT Commenter
So do I get it? Memes.
- [67:08]
Big Cat
No, it's.
- [67:09]
Zach
What do you mean?
- [67:11]
Big Cat
Do I get it?
- [67:12]
PFT Commenter
No, you don't get it.
- [67:12]
Zach
Why.
- [67:13]
Big Cat
But you said.
- [67:14]
Memes
It's not the end of the show.
- [67:15]
PFT Commenter
The end of the show. Memes. You said it.
- [67:17]
Big Cat
It's the first I've said numbers before. It's the first numbers that he says after he introduces the lottery ball.
- [67:24]
Zach
Yeah.
- [67:24]
PFT Commenter
And I say, all right, guys.
- [67:27]
Zach
Time.
- [67:28]
Hank
For the N word.
- [67:34]
PFT Commenter
Memes thinks about the N word more than anyone in on the show.
- [67:37]
Zach
Yeah.
- [67:38]
PFT Commenter
That's a fact.
- [67:38]
Big Cat
Disgusting.
- [67:39]
PFT Commenter
You are always thinking about the N word.
- [67:42]
Zach
I am.
- [67:42]
Big Cat
And you just said.
- [67:47]
PFT Commenter
All right, Titans. The Texans. I'm done with the Titans. Done with them. So I'm going to take the Texans. I'm done with the Titans. I don't. This game. This game is not exciting to me whatsoever.
- [67:58]
Big Cat
Yeah. So Callahan is no longer calling the plays.
- [68:00]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [68:01]
Big Cat
So he gave it to their offensive coordinator.
- [68:03]
Zach
Yeah.
- [68:04]
Big Cat
And that was the guy that was calling Bo Hardigree his name. He was the guy that was calling plays for the Raiders after they fired Antonio Pierce. And he's the guy that essentially embarrassed Brandon Staley so much that he had. He got fired, too.
- [68:18]
Zach
Yeah.
- [68:18]
Big Cat
Through his play calling. So they. I don't know. I don't know what to think. Like, Callahan, he was calling plays, and he's an offensive guy. And then they asked him, do you have any regrets or anything that you did wrong? And he's like, no, that's not why I'm making this choice. And they're like, well, why are you. He's like, well, I'm the head coach, so I gotta start head coaching. So you kind of, like, is taking on the role of a CEO.
- [68:40]
Zach
Yeah.
- [68:40]
Big Cat
In a company that is failing.
- [68:43]
Zach
Yeah.
- [68:43]
Big Cat
Because he was leading the con. I don't really understand what's going on, but it's not good. Not good signs for Cal.
- [68:48]
PFT Commenter
Not good. And the.
- [68:49]
Zach
The.
- [68:50]
PFT Commenter
I was looking at the numbers, the drill tweet of, like, can someone help me with my budget? You know, $100 on wings, $50 on pizzas. And the Titans are 2 and 14 against the spread in their last 16 games. I just. I have to quit. I have to stop.
- [69:06]
Big Cat
You know what it was? They. Somebody on the Titans last year said, like, teams don't want to play us.
- [69:10]
Zach
Yeah.
- [69:11]
Big Cat
And then I was like, oh, they're still fighting.
- [69:13]
PFT Commenter
Well, they had, like, they. They had a. Like a. It's. It's partially in my brain. The variable Titans who always would, you know, win games they weren't supposed to win or keep games close. Their defense isn't so. So bad, but, man, they always just find a way to lose games. And I'm so. I'm done with the Titans.
- [69:30]
Big Cat
You know what the last team was that started off 03 and made the playoffs?
- [69:36]
PFT Commenter
It was the Texans.
- [69:37]
Shane Bacon
Right.
- [69:37]
Big Cat
Texans in 2018.
- [69:38]
PFT Commenter
That was my pinky team.
- [69:39]
Big Cat
That was a pinky team.
- [69:40]
Zach
Yeah.
- [69:40]
PFT Commenter
Pinky team that year. So might. They might be able to run it.
- [69:42]
Big Cat
Back 11 and 5 at the end of that year.
- [69:45]
PFT Commenter
All right, Afternoon games, Colts at rams, rams minus three and a half over under 49 and a half. Jerry O' Connell went on Matthew Stafford and Kelly Stafford's podcast. Actually, it's Kelly Stafford's podcast, but Matthew Stafford was also on it. I thought he did it. I skimmed around. I thought he did a good job. He mentioned us a couple of times.
- [70:03]
Big Cat
But you can listen to a guy On a podcast, and he's probably saying some bullshit.
- [70:06]
Zach
Yeah, right.
- [70:08]
Big Cat
Definitely.
- [70:09]
PFT Commenter
I basically just did a little quick peruse to make sure that he at least said our names.
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Big Cat
He was thinking about us the whole time.
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PFT Commenter
I hope so.
- [70:17]
Zach
Yeah.
- [70:18]
Big Cat
Which is.
- [70:18]
Zach
That's.
- [70:18]
Big Cat
That's good to know.
- [70:19]
Zach
Yeah.
- [70:22]
Big Cat
Danny Dimes. Are we gonna make, like, the entire narrative out of the Colts and Daniel Jones based on how this game goes? So, like, if they lose, are we going to be like, yeah, they're a good team. Fun story, not elite. And if they beat the Rams, are we going to be, like, Super Bowl?
- [70:40]
PFT Commenter
Depends. So we have one question with the quarterback coming up with Daniel Jones. I would say depends on what it looks like. Like, in terms of. Give me a score, and I'll tell you where I'm going to go with the narrative.
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Big Cat
3020 Rams.
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PFT Commenter
Was the score 30:13 before. Like, what was the. What was the lead up to? 30, 20?
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Zach
It was.
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Big Cat
It was 27 to 17.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. They traded field goals.
- [71:09]
Big Cat
They traded field goals.
- [71:10]
Zach
Yeah.
- [71:10]
Big Cat
But it was in the third quarter, and then in the fourth quarter, no touchdowns.
- [71:15]
PFT Commenter
Colts. Colts could still be good.
- [71:17]
Zach
Okay.
- [71:19]
Big Cat
We should think about that ahead of time.
- [71:20]
Zach
Okay.
- [71:21]
Big Cat
What if it's 17 to 3? Rams.
- [71:24]
PFT Commenter
Colts think.
- [71:25]
Big Cat
Okay, done.
- [71:26]
Zach
Throw them out.
- [71:26]
Big Cat
Done. Frauds.
- [71:27]
PFT Commenter
Frauds.
- [71:28]
Big Cat
They're fraudulent. Okay, what about 21 to 20? Colts win, but they win in, like, a very weird last second. Like a punt return.
- [71:43]
PFT Commenter
Ride the wave.
- [71:44]
Zach
Okay.
- [71:44]
Big Cat
Team of destiny. Yeah, that might be.
- [71:46]
PFT Commenter
Ride the wave.
- [71:47]
Zach
Okay.
- [71:47]
PFT Commenter
Keep rolling with them.
- [71:48]
Hank
What if it's like, Rams?
- [71:51]
PFT Commenter
I like this. This is a fun game.
- [71:52]
Big Cat
Just do every possible scores.
- [71:54]
PFT Commenter
And what we're going to say on Sunday night. We're just doing Sunday's podcast now.
- [71:58]
Hank
Rams 31, Colts 26. But the Colts were covering the entire game. And the Rams, like, do something.
- [72:07]
PFT Commenter
Kicked a field.
- [72:08]
Zach
Yeah.
- [72:08]
Hank
Get it at the. At the end of COVID I. I respect the Colts.
- [72:12]
PFT Commenter
I feel like they're. They're right there.
- [72:13]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [72:14]
Big Cat
Give me. Give me one more.
- [72:17]
Hank
Colts 4114.
- [72:19]
PFT Commenter
Oh, my God.
- [72:20]
Big Cat
Fire MC.
- [72:21]
Zach
Yeah.
- [72:21]
PFT Commenter
Best team ever.
- [72:22]
Big Cat
Oh, I think that that would almost switch. Now we're like, what's wrong with the Rams?
- [72:25]
Zach
Yeah.
- [72:25]
Big Cat
It becomes more that.
- [72:27]
PFT Commenter
Did the Eagles break the Rams?
- [72:28]
Zach
Yep. Yep.
- [72:29]
PFT Commenter
That absolutely will be the conversation.
- [72:31]
Big Cat
Get ready for some clock struck midnight takes.
- [72:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [72:35]
Big Cat
If the Colts lose and they lose by, like, 10 points or more. Yeah, clock struck midnight.
- [72:39]
PFT Commenter
I'd agree.
- [72:39]
Big Cat
I don't think.
- [72:40]
Hank
I think they got some room. He's built. He's given himself a little bit of.
- [72:43]
PFT Commenter
A little bit of room 14 plus is when we're like, oh, this team. Oh, look who they beat.
- [72:48]
Zach
Yeah.
- [72:48]
Big Cat
Did you hear that Daniel Jones is frequently late for dinner?
- [72:53]
Zach
No.
- [72:53]
Big Cat
That's like his thing.
- [72:54]
PFT Commenter
You can literally call him late for dinner.
- [72:56]
Big Cat
You can?
- [72:56]
Zach
Yeah.
- [72:56]
Big Cat
In the Athletic, they said he's never on time for dinner. Pittman is used to it. He expects it when the players meet up for the weekly meal on Thursdays. He's always tardy. Every single time, he's like, yeah, I'm on the way. I just had to break down these last couple plays. And I'm like, bro, take a break. But that's just who he is.
- [73:14]
PFT Commenter
Oh, so he's late for dinner. Not as like a rude thing. It's more.
- [73:18]
Big Cat
He just loves ball because he's grinding film.
- [73:20]
PFT Commenter
He's got to grind film. Okay, that's not that bad.
- [73:23]
Big Cat
Like, I've heard all the first one in, last one out. I've heard that, but I've never heard, oh, he's the last one in. But it's a good thing he's late for dinner because he was too busy being the last one out to be the first one in for dinner.
- [73:35]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [73:36]
PFT Commenter
Also, fun fact. Daniel Jones earns $100,000 for every Colts win this year that he plays 50% of the snaps. That's got to be awesome.
- [73:43]
Big Cat
That is cool.
- [73:44]
PFT Commenter
Just like slush fund money.
- [73:47]
Zach
Yeah.
- [73:48]
PFT Commenter
Oh, that's a win.
- [73:49]
Zach
Cool.
- [73:49]
PFT Commenter
Just gonna take that hundred thousand something fun with it.
- [73:52]
Big Cat
Also, last week with the Rams losing to the Eagles, they have failed the Bird gauntlet.
- [73:57]
PFT Commenter
Say it again.
- [73:58]
Big Cat
They have. They have failed the Bird gauntlet.
- [74:00]
Zach
Oh, yeah.
- [74:00]
Big Cat
There will be no team that defeats all the Bird teams this year.
- [74:03]
PFT Commenter
That is brutal.
- [74:04]
Zach
Yep.
- [74:04]
PFT Commenter
Fucking block kick.
- [74:06]
Zach
All right.
- [74:07]
PFT Commenter
Jaguars at 49ers. Jaguars are three and a half point underdogs. I kind of like the Jags. I kind of like the Jags. You got to figure out how to catch the ball. That's a big piece of it. But I kind of like the Jags.
- [74:19]
Zach
Yeah.
- [74:20]
Big Cat
I mean, it sucks for the Niners not having Bosa now and they're all banged up. Outside of Bosa, I feel like they're. Brian Thomas has to come out of the yips. Or maybe. Maybe the answer is just give the ball to Travis Hunter more. Yeah, maybe it is because when they drafted him, they're like, this is a man that. That will change the entire sport of football. Yeah, Football looks just about the same.
- [74:42]
PFT Commenter
This is. We talk about this frequently during the season, but this is an all time. Can't remember anything about these teams playing. Yeah, 49ers, Jaguars.
- [74:51]
Big Cat
It's weird because I do. I do remember Mac Jones playing on the Jaguars. I do remember.
- [74:59]
PFT Commenter
Against the 49ers.
- [75:01]
Big Cat
No, no, no. I remember Mac Jones playing for the Jaguars. I remember they had another bag playing Gabbard. Right.
- [75:09]
PFT Commenter
Wasn't he played on the 49ers? And the Jaguars?
- [75:11]
Big Cat
And the Jaguars. But yeah, I don't recall them ever playing each other.
- [75:15]
PFT Commenter
They haven't. The Jaguars have not beaten the Niners since 2005. They've played five times since then and they have been outscored 170 to 59. Also weird stat. The 49ers, the only team in the NFL with zero rushing TDs through three weeks.
- [75:32]
Big Cat
That's crazy.
- [75:32]
PFT Commenter
Isn't that crazy?
- [75:34]
Big Cat
Yeah. Did not know that.
- [75:35]
PFT Commenter
That's nuts.
- [75:37]
Big Cat
Is Mac Jones going to play as Brock Purdy?
- [75:40]
PFT Commenter
I believe it's going to be. I don't know. Let's look it up. Let's look it up.
- [75:46]
Big Cat
I think it's Mac Jones.
- [75:47]
PFT Commenter
I think it's Mac Jones because they.
- [75:50]
Big Cat
Said that Purdy was going to be out for like four to five weeks.
- [75:53]
PFT Commenter
Also, like, Mac Jones already won two starts. You kind of have a free roll here. Like, you can just go with you can. He can lose one.
- [76:00]
Big Cat
If I'm Mac Jones, I fake an injury right now.
- [76:02]
Zach
Yeah.
- [76:03]
PFT Commenter
Looks to be on a very good return for Sunday. So. Hank, you're wrong. He's Brock Purdy. Damn.
- [76:08]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [76:08]
Big Cat
If I'm Mac Jones, I'm like, I think I got turf toe to please shut me down. I just made myself a lot of money potentially.
- [76:14]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [76:16]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Bears at Raiders. Must win for the Bears. Absolutely must win. You win a gateway game to then get the privilege of playing in a must win. And that's what they're playing in this week.
- [76:30]
Big Cat
Okay.
- [76:30]
PFT Commenter
It's a must win. Have to win this game.
- [76:32]
Big Cat
Are you distrustful and paranoid of Tom Brady?
- [76:35]
PFT Commenter
Not really. It's weird, but not really.
- [76:39]
Zach
Okay.
- [76:39]
Big Cat
Yeah, it is weird.
- [76:40]
Zach
Yeah.
- [76:42]
PFT Commenter
This, this ticket, by the way, is like, I think there's going to be a lot of Bears fans in the crowd. Our guy Eddie is DJing a strip club.
- [76:49]
Hank
What a flyer.
- [76:50]
PFT Commenter
I love that Peppermint Hippo, which is rivals to the Spearmint Rhino.
- [76:55]
Big Cat
Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, Spearmint Rhino is a great place.
- [76:58]
Zach
Yeah.
- [77:00]
PFT Commenter
So, yeah, I don't know. This is going to be interesting game. See if they can stack. I feel like the Raiders are bad, but they're going to break out of it. And they could break out of it against a Bears defense that is not healthy and not good.
- [77:12]
Big Cat
Yeah. Did you know that the Bears had the longest touchdown drive in the NFL this year?
- [77:16]
PFT Commenter
Was that. Did the Lions not beat it?
- [77:19]
Big Cat
No. Well, not in terms of. I don't know what. The yardage difference.
- [77:22]
PFT Commenter
Oh, plays.
- [77:22]
Big Cat
19. 19 plays.
- [77:23]
Zach
Yeah.
- [77:24]
PFT Commenter
It was incredible drive. That was. That was the. The man football drive.
- [77:27]
Big Cat
Yeah, it was pretty great. I also saw that they had Max Crosby rated as a 0% win rate in pass rush situations on Pro Football Focus from last week.
- [77:36]
PFT Commenter
I don't understand any of those numbers.
- [77:38]
Big Cat
I don't understand. All I can tell you is that if that's the metric that you're using to evaluate a player, you need to tweak that metric because Crosby was awesome last week.
- [77:46]
Zach
Yeah.
- [77:48]
PFT Commenter
We also are. The streak. The streak continues. The offense, the NFC offensive player of the week through three weeks has been in a Chicago Bears game. So Caleb Williams won it week three, Jared Goff, week two, JJ McCarthy, week one.
- [78:01]
Zach
Okay.
- [78:01]
PFT Commenter
So that's kind of cool streak. See if it continues.
- [78:04]
Big Cat
I love that. Did you know that the under is 8 and 2 in the Bears last 10 road games?
- [78:11]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we don't. I mean, good.
- [78:14]
Hank
That's. It's a new team.
- [78:15]
PFT Commenter
Yes, it's actually.
- [78:18]
Zach
What.
- [78:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's also. Well, he said road games because.
- [78:20]
Zach
Yeah.
- [78:21]
PFT Commenter
It's one and oh this year.
- [78:22]
Memes
Okay, fair. My bad, my bad, my bad.
- [78:24]
Zach
The.
- [78:25]
PFT Commenter
The over is one and oh, on the road this year.
- [78:28]
Zach
Yeah.
- [78:29]
Big Cat
I do agree with Hank, though. You can't. You can't base this Bears off those Bears.
- [78:33]
PFT Commenter
No, you did.
- [78:35]
Big Cat
Yeah, well, no, I didn't. I said.
- [78:39]
PFT Commenter
But he can't.
- [78:39]
Big Cat
I didn't. I said the stat.
- [78:40]
PFT Commenter
We all do stuff we can't do stat did.
- [78:42]
Hank
Yeah, but you can't.
- [78:43]
Big Cat
You can't factor fiction. The number is. It's 8 and 2.
- [78:49]
Hank
Fact.
- [78:51]
PFT Commenter
*.
- [78:52]
Big Cat
Yeah, well, we just did the asterisks.
- [78:54]
Zach
Yeah.
- [78:55]
PFT Commenter
Factorist. Last year they were 8 and 1 to the under on the road. This year they're 1 and oh to the over on the road.
- [79:01]
Zach
Yep.
- [79:03]
Big Cat
Also the Raiders defense, not good outside of Max Crosby.
- [79:06]
PFT Commenter
Here are my two biggest concerns in this game. One is Max Crosby because our offensive line is not great or it's. It looks okay against the Cowboys, but there's been some question marks. Braxton Jones, Darnell Wright has been banged up a little. Two, I'm a big storyline guy. Remember going in the draft, we thought the Bears were going to draft Ash and Genty they didn't. Yeah, Ash genties look like trash. Bears don't have like a stud running back. The undershirt's been okay. Not great. Ashton. Jenny has like an all time game.
- [79:41]
Big Cat
Against the Bears that would also require their offensive line to be better, but that's what the issue is.
- [79:46]
PFT Commenter
Cowboys are running for six yards a pop, so those are my two concerns.
- [79:49]
Big Cat
So. So last week playing against the Raiders, they didn't really block anybody. If you send one extra guy, they're going to. They're going to be like, I've never seen this before.
- [79:56]
PFT Commenter
Good to know.
- [79:57]
Big Cat
How am I supposed to stop this extra linebacker? Like Bobby Wagner's two sacks. I don't think anybody touched him.
- [80:03]
PFT Commenter
So Dennis Allen, if you're listening to this, please note that mark that down. Also sorry for White Sox Dave saying, you got tits on the stream.
- [80:11]
Big Cat
Does he have tits?
- [80:12]
PFT Commenter
He's got a little bit of tits.
- [80:13]
Big Cat
I think it's the ears that make everything.
- [80:15]
PFT Commenter
Ears are the problem.
- [80:16]
Zach
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [80:18]
PFT Commenter
All right, so I'm excited for this game. Must win. I must win. All right, game of the week. Ravens, Chiefs. Loser leaves town.
- [80:28]
Big Cat
I think loser might get hungrier.
- [80:30]
PFT Commenter
Is loser. Oh, I think we should put a Super bowl future on whoever loses this game.
- [80:34]
Big Cat
I think. I think whoever loses this game is going to be a problem.
- [80:36]
PFT Commenter
What are the odds right now for the Ravens and the Chiefs in the draft? So right now it's Chiefs plus two and a half, but what are the odds for them to win the Super Bowl? So right now The Ravens are 6 to 1 and the Chiefs are what, 14 to 1.
- [80:50]
Memes
The Ravens having the second best odds still is crazy.
- [80:53]
PFT Commenter
But if they lose this game, they will go to 10 to 1 or more.
- [80:56]
Big Cat
They should dip. Yeah, they should definitely dip. The worst part of the Ravens is clearly their defense and especially the running defense. The Chiefs like Andy Reid, he will have games where he's just like, I don't care much for running the football.
- [81:10]
PFT Commenter
Well, I was just saying the worst part of the Chiefs is their offense.
- [81:12]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [81:13]
PFT Commenter
And they're like, the Ravens defense has looked bad because they played the Bills and the Lions. The Chiefs offense is nowhere near the Bills and the Lions.
- [81:23]
Memes
Xavier worthy, though.
- [81:24]
PFT Commenter
Is he back?
- [81:25]
Memes
He's back. Okay, that should change something a little bit.
- [81:28]
Big Cat
Yeah, that is different. I don't know how healthy his shoulder is going to be if that's something that's going to like keep flaring up on them all season. But yeah, the offense. When the Chiefs have a really, really fast guy out there, they become a Fun offense to watch. When they don't have a guy like that, they become a very boring football team. Yeah, they've been super boring to watch recently. I feel like Mahomes and Pacheco are button heads a little bit. There were a few plays last week where Pacheco was, like, just turning the wrong way in the backfield. Didn't know the ball was coming for him.
- [81:57]
Zach
Yep.
- [81:58]
Big Cat
At least one of those was a fumble that Mahomes then had to recover. So I don't know. I don't know if they have an answer at running back because I feel like Pacheco used to be more than a serviceable running back.
- [82:08]
Zach
Yeah. Right.
- [82:08]
Big Cat
But, yeah, things kind of change.
- [82:10]
Zach
Yeah.
- [82:13]
PFT Commenter
I don't know. I kind of want to take the Ravens in this game, but the Patrick Holmes, like, at what point do we have to say there's maybe Patrick Holmes isn't what he was.
- [82:23]
Big Cat
At what point do we have the conversation?
- [82:25]
PFT Commenter
What do we have? We're not there yet. We got to see some guys get back.
- [82:28]
Big Cat
I think the first step is somebody saying, like, you could make the argument that Patrick Mahomes is a pedestrian quarterback. Not. Not necessarily making the argument, but saying.
- [82:36]
PFT Commenter
You could make the argument.
- [82:37]
Big Cat
One could make the argument.
- [82:39]
PFT Commenter
I'm not going to make that argument. I'm not ready to have that conversation yet. I'm just asking, is there a point in time that we do have that conversation?
- [82:47]
Big Cat
I think mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.
- [82:49]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Okay.
- [82:50]
Big Cat
But also, if the Ravens kick the.
- [82:51]
Zach
Out of him. Yeah.
- [82:52]
Big Cat
Oh, yeah.
- [82:52]
PFT Commenter
Then. Then I'll have that conversation on Sunday.
- [82:54]
Zach
All right.
- [82:55]
PFT Commenter
Ravens 40. Chiefs 17.
- [82:58]
Big Cat
Okay.
- [82:58]
PFT Commenter
How did we have in that conversation?
- [83:00]
Big Cat
How many defensive touchdowns did the Ravens. Two picks or fumble request?
- [83:04]
PFT Commenter
Pick six. And then also Patrick Holmes throwing it backwards.
- [83:07]
Zach
Yeah.
- [83:07]
Big Cat
Let's have the conversation.
- [83:08]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [83:08]
Zach
All right.
- [83:09]
PFT Commenter
So there.
- [83:09]
Zach
There it is.
- [83:09]
PFT Commenter
If that. If that's the score.
- [83:11]
Zach
Yeah.
- [83:11]
PFT Commenter
Those are the. The things that happen.
- [83:13]
Zach
Yep.
- [83:13]
PFT Commenter
Conversation will be had on Sunday night.
- [83:15]
Big Cat
Well, the thing about the Chiefs is there's other conversations that you would have before you got to the Patrick Mahomes conversation. Like, is it time for Andy Reid to hang it up?
- [83:23]
Zach
Yeah.
- [83:24]
Big Cat
Is it time for Travis Kelsey to retire?
- [83:26]
Zach
Is.
- [83:27]
Big Cat
Is Taylor Swift pregnant?
- [83:28]
PFT Commenter
I told you guys this story, but it was. Our security guards do a great job here. I walked in on Wednesday morning. Rick, our security guard, like, kind of pulled me aside and was just like, hey, you hear about Kelsey? And I was like, what? Because he was actually pronouncing it correctly. Kelsey. I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, yeah, Chiefs are going to cut him.
- [83:45]
Zach
Yeah.
- [83:45]
PFT Commenter
I was like, what? And then I went and looked and it was just nowhere. But he just. I think he saw him and Andy Reid fighting and he was like, yeah, he's getting cut.
- [83:53]
Big Cat
It was probably from one of the overseas Facebook pages, the click farms.
- [83:57]
PFT Commenter
It was such a great moment there where he just. He got me for a second.
- [84:00]
Big Cat
And another conversation we would have to have is, oh, the Chiefs aren't so tough when the refs aren't giving them everything.
- [84:05]
Zach
Yeah.
- [84:06]
Big Cat
Then you find clips of refs calling penalties against the Chiefs and then you're like, see, now that they're doing this, they were never a good team.
- [84:12]
PFT Commenter
Good point. Pft.
- [84:13]
Big Cat
Yeah, good point.
- [84:15]
PFT Commenter
Okay, last game, Cowboys, Packers, Cowboys plus seven.
- [84:19]
Big Cat
Real quick, I got one stat about Mahomes. Give it to me. Actually, it's two stats. He is five and one all time against Lamar.
- [84:27]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [84:28]
Big Cat
And he is 11 and five straight up as an underdog in his career. And against the spread, that's 12, three and one as an underdog. And of those 12, 11, they won straight up. I had a question for you.
- [84:44]
PFT Commenter
Is that the Mahomes of pass or the Mahomes we're about to maybe have a conversation about?
- [84:50]
Big Cat
Well, so this is probably the Mahomes of pass, because I don't think that any of those underdogs, underdog teams were looked at as being maybe just not a very good team at all. I think those underdog teams were like, oh, maybe you're traveling to Buffalo. And Buffalo is also a very good team.
- [85:06]
PFT Commenter
I'll say this. If the Chiefs lose this game, I think we have to change all stats for pre and post conversation and we'll make this the conversation.
- [85:14]
Zach
Okay. Yeah.
- [85:15]
Big Cat
This is a conversation game about my homes.
- [85:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, this is the conversation game. Hank, you got to be loving this.
- [85:20]
Hank
I've been having this conversation since before the season started. They got smoked in the super bowl and everyone just acted like they're the greatest team of all time.
- [85:28]
Big Cat
The way that you just phrase that as a problem because you also admit to them being in the Super Bowl.
- [85:32]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [85:33]
Hank
And a weak afc.
- [85:35]
PFT Commenter
All right, so it's not. We're not having the conversation about Mahomes yet. And the game like this is the game that will trigger the conversation, like one way or the other, if they win, we're going to be like, hey, conversation over.
- [85:49]
Zach
Yep.
- [85:49]
PFT Commenter
We're going to make a decision on the conversation after this game.
- [85:52]
Zach
Yeah.
- [85:52]
Big Cat
I mean, obviously with some of the scenarios, if they lose and it's close. Then it's not time for the conversation.
- [85:58]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [85:59]
Big Cat
But we will have a definitive answer after this.
- [86:00]
Zach
Yeah.
- [86:00]
PFT Commenter
We will give you your answer on Sunday night. All right. So packers are cowboys. Cowboys plus seven over under 47 and a half. I saw the only. I think the packers are going to kill the Cowboys. No. CD Lamb, obviously. Did you guys see that? Michael Parsons was like, yeah, my whole family's going to be there. Everyone's going to be there. He already had his suite for the year and he couldn't get a refund. That sucks.
- [86:25]
Big Cat
So it's the suite that he was. Oh, he paid for.
- [86:28]
PFT Commenter
He already paid for his suite in Cowboys Stadium for the year and he can't get a refund. So he has a suite. So his whole family's going to be there.
- [86:35]
Big Cat
It's actually surprising to me that Jerry made him pay for the suite.
- [86:38]
Zach
I know.
- [86:39]
Big Cat
That's probably why things went sour.
- [86:40]
Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So he offered it to Kenny Clark. I don't think Kenny Clark took it. But like. Like for the rest of the season. But how funny is that? Michael Parsons just has a suite.
- [86:49]
Zach
Yeah.
- [86:50]
PFT Commenter
Stadium.
- [86:51]
Big Cat
He's going to be on a mission. There's not going to be a thank you video that goes up for him.
- [86:55]
Zach
No.
- [86:56]
Big Cat
But I feel like every player on the Cowboys is going to be motivated. Yeah, but you're going to.
- [87:02]
PFT Commenter
Can you be motivated to. If you suck?
- [87:05]
Big Cat
You can.
- [87:06]
PFT Commenter
Can you be motivated to be good if you suck?
- [87:08]
Big Cat
Not good.
- [87:08]
Zach
Okay.
- [87:09]
Big Cat
But you can be motivated to suck. But suck harder.
- [87:14]
Zach
Yeah.
- [87:14]
Big Cat
So give more effort while you're sucking.
- [87:16]
PFT Commenter
Can you can. Is Matt Eberfluous going to find motivation?
- [87:19]
Big Cat
I don't think that's a guy that you want to give all the effort that he has.
- [87:23]
Zach
Yeah.
- [87:23]
PFT Commenter
You don't want a lot of motivation.
- [87:24]
Big Cat
I feel like the less that he says and does probably the better.
- [87:28]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [87:29]
Zach
Yeah.
- [87:29]
PFT Commenter
I would agree with.
- [87:30]
Big Cat
But yeah. If you're. If you're the packers, there's one guy that's extremely, extremely motivated. If you're the Cowboys, it's pretty much the whole team that's motivated to beat that guy. But good news for the packers is they lost last week.
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PFT Commenter
Right.
- [87:42]
Big Cat
And so.
- [87:42]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [87:43]
Zach
Yeah.
- [87:43]
Big Cat
There. I. I think the packers are going to kill him.
- [87:45]
PFT Commenter
I do too. I think it might be a load up game for the boys.
- [87:49]
Zach
Yeah.
- [87:49]
PFT Commenter
Is that stupid.
- [87:53]
Big Cat
Memes.
- [87:53]
Memes
And I just hammered the team total over 27 and a half for the Packers.
- [87:58]
Big Cat
I like that because this to me feels like it might be the squarest bet that any of us make after I Just heard.
- [88:06]
Hank
After everything I just heard.
- [88:07]
Big Cat
Yeah, it's.
- [88:08]
Hank
Especially with it being Sunday night.
- [88:09]
Big Cat
Yes.
- [88:10]
Memes
It's 27 half. Such a good football number.
- [88:12]
Big Cat
It's the square spot that we can make to load up on the packers because, yes, Micah Parsons has been wronged by the Cowboys. That narrative is going to be really the story of the game. And the packers also looked at as being really good. Cowboys looked at as being really bad. But I don't give a. It's my square. But I don't give a play I.
- [88:30]
PFT Commenter
Like that can make you feel. You feel better about it. You're like, hey, I know I'm admitting and I'm a square. And I'm betting what everyone else is betting. I don't give a. Yep. Sometimes squares win.
- [88:40]
Zach
Yep.
- [88:41]
Big Cat
It's facts, no CD Lamb.
- [88:43]
PFT Commenter
Oh, but, hey, I can already see it. We're going to be sitting here Sunday night having a conversation about Patrick Mahomes, and Hank's going to be pumping his fist while we just like, oh, I can't believe the Cowboys are going to win outright. You could see it right now. You close your eyes, and then I'm going to be mad at myself because it's like, I can't celebrate a Packers win because I loaded up on the packers, and Hank's going to be smiling and we're going to be having a conversation about Patrick Mahomes, and the Colts are going to not be for real.
- [89:10]
Big Cat
Team total is not bad.
- [89:11]
PFT Commenter
Team Total bad. Team total's not bad.
- [89:13]
Hank
There's one, though.
- [89:15]
PFT Commenter
Oh, okay. So I'm a little happier.
- [89:16]
Zach
Yeah.
- [89:16]
PFT Commenter
What about the commanders?
- [89:19]
Zach
Oh.
- [89:22]
PFT Commenter
This is like Swami's picks, you say?
- [89:26]
Hank
Depends if Jaden plays or not.
- [89:27]
Big Cat
Okay. Does he does play, then they squeak out of victory or is he healthy?
- [89:32]
Zach
You had.
- [89:33]
PFT Commenter
You had a really good chance.
- [89:34]
Memes
I thought you were going to do the opposite.
- [89:37]
PFT Commenter
Comedic timing was missing there. Bucks. Eagles.
- [89:42]
Hank
Bucks.
- [89:42]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [89:43]
Hank
Outright.
- [89:43]
PFT Commenter
Oh, okay. So we're gonna have a spicy show.
- [89:46]
Hank
And jets and Patriots.
- [89:47]
PFT Commenter
Well, jets are Monday night.
- [89:48]
Big Cat
Jets are Monday.
- [89:49]
Zach
Yeah.
- [89:50]
PFT Commenter
Which is good, because I don't really want to talk about that game. All right, we got our fantasy minute. I sent it to you, Max. Jerry's fantasy minute. None of us have watched it. Did a good job last week. He got it a full minute. Oh, looks like we got a special guest.
- [90:03]
Zach
Oh, hey.
- [90:04]
PFT Commenter
Hey, now. Oh, what is Jerry doing with his facial hair? I kind of like it.
- [90:09]
Big Cat
Is that an For a new role?
- [90:10]
Zach
Yeah.
- [90:11]
PFT Commenter
All right, here we go. Jerry's fantasy minute. All right, here we go.
- [90:15]
Shane Bacon
I gotta do a part of my tape video here.
- [90:18]
Zach
You ready?
- [90:19]
PFT Commenter
Time me.
- [90:19]
Shane Bacon
Just one minute.
- [90:20]
Zach
I don't have a watch. Okay, in.
- [90:22]
Shane Bacon
In your head means start the music.
- [90:24]
Zach (alternate)
Okay, stop.
- [90:25]
Shane Bacon
Start the music means.
- [90:26]
PFT Commenter
Hey, what's up, Fantasy boys?
- [90:28]
Shane Bacon
Going out to lunch with my wife.
- [90:29]
Zach
Zach.
- [90:30]
PFT Commenter
This is what you got to do with your Pilates instructor?
- [90:32]
Big Cat
He's gonna a lot.
- [90:33]
PFT Commenter
He's. Instructor. Okay, Fantasy minute. We got a Jaden Daniels problem. I'm so sorry. I told everybody to pick up Jaden Daniels, stream Geno Smith.
- [90:43]
Shane Bacon
He's gonna have a good game.
- [90:44]
PFT Commenter
Cowboys.
- [90:45]
Zach (alternate)
I mean, Chicago defense sucks.
- [90:47]
PFT Commenter
Pick up Hunter Henry. Also, I can't believe I'm saying this.
- [90:50]
Shane Bacon
What world we living in?
- [90:51]
PFT Commenter
Pick up Kyle Pitts. Everybody can drop Boswell. Pick up Matt Prater. Matt Prater's gonna have a good game, good kicker.
- [91:00]
Zach (alternate)
Lions defense.
- [91:01]
PFT Commenter
Everybody pick him up.
- [91:02]
Zach (alternate)
And everybody can drop Travis Hunter.
- [91:04]
Zach
That's it.
- [91:05]
PFT Commenter
You do Pilates, right? What's a good Pilates move?
- [91:09]
Zach
Short spine.
- [91:10]
PFT Commenter
Short spine. Do the short spine with the P instructor.
- [91:14]
Big Cat
He's going. That was great, Jerry.
- [91:17]
PFT Commenter
That was one minute. Perfect.
- [91:19]
Big Cat
Got a lot of information in that, too.
- [91:21]
Zach
Yeah, we will.
- [91:23]
PFT Commenter
We will bring back Fantasy Lad boys when they play in England. Wouldn't feel right doing it in Ireland.
- [91:28]
Big Cat
No.
- [91:29]
PFT Commenter
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PFT Commenter
Boys, what do you got?
- [92:49]
Hank
I love my pick this week.
- [92:50]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [92:51]
Hank
Mark Andrews.
- [92:52]
Zach
Okay.
- [92:55]
Memes
I like mine as well. I'm gonna go devonte Adams.
- [92:58]
Big Cat
Oh, okay.
- [92:59]
PFT Commenter
Eft. We'll do a night one.
- [93:03]
Big Cat
Should I save one for night Because I got a bear. Oh, there's a bear that I like.
- [93:06]
Zach
Okay.
- [93:07]
Hank
No, just let it rip.
- [93:08]
Memes
I thought about a juicy. A juicy bear.
- [93:10]
PFT Commenter
A juicy bear. It's fat bear week.
- [93:12]
Big Cat
I thought how big is that bear?
- [93:14]
Memes
I think Luther Burton was like plus 550. I was like. But it's too much.
- [93:20]
PFT Commenter
It's very juicy bear.
- [93:21]
Big Cat
My bear is not quite as juicy. That's fine. Adun.
- [93:26]
Hank
Okay, back to the.
- [93:27]
Memes
Well, yeah, that's what I had last week.
- [93:28]
Hank
Oh, that's you.
- [93:29]
Zach
Yeah, Yeah.
- [93:30]
Big Cat
I don't. I don't like the. The Raiders defense.
- [93:33]
Memes
Okay, let me, let me. Let me pull this up quick.
- [93:36]
PFT Commenter
Get us our picks. Get us our picks.
- [93:41]
Memes
Plus 140 dun is plus 145.
- [93:44]
Zach
Okay.
- [93:45]
Memes
Andrew's is plus 235.
- [93:48]
PFT Commenter
Wow, we could.
- [93:49]
Memes
We're juicy again with this one. Adams is plus 130 giving us a seven. Almost an 18 to one parlay.
- [93:57]
Zach
Right.
- [93:58]
Big Cat
Let's ride.
- [93:59]
Memes
1787.
- [94:00]
PFT Commenter
Hell yes.
- [94:01]
Memes
All right, boys. I love it.
- [94:03]
PFT Commenter
Okay, let's do our picks. Pft. Congratulations. You've won a game.
- [94:07]
Zach
I did.
- [94:07]
PFT Commenter
So we are doing our pick contest right now. It is me, Memes and Zach in first place with four correct picks. So we're all four and two. Hank and Max both have or. Sorry. Hank has three points, Max has two points. PFT has one point. Who's picking first? I believe it's Zach.
- [94:34]
Zach
All right.
- [94:34]
Zach (alternate)
I would like to take in the Chargers Giants game. The Chargers minus six.
- [94:39]
PFT Commenter
Okay, Chargers minus six. First pick. Go ahead. Pft. You're up.
- [94:48]
Zach
Okay.
- [94:49]
Big Cat
I will go with the Colts and the Rams. I'm going to take under 49 and a half.
- [94:55]
PFT Commenter
Under 49 and a half. Colts, Rams.
- [94:58]
Zach
Yep. Okay.
- [94:59]
PFT Commenter
I am going to go over in the Bears Raiders game 47 and a half.
- [95:09]
Hank
I am going to go over 48 and a half in the Chiefs Ravens game.
- [95:16]
Zach
Oh, got him. Got him.
- [95:20]
PFT Commenter
Memes.
- [95:20]
Big Cat
I'm going to take the packers minus seven.
- [95:22]
Zach
Okay.
- [95:24]
Memes
I'm going to take the Jags plus three and a half against the.
- [95:28]
PFT Commenter
Ah, that was mine.
- [95:31]
Memes
And then you jerk. Well, he took mine. I am going to take. I had another one. I had another one.
- [95:41]
PFT Commenter
Well, all Right. His pick has passed. Go memes.
- [95:45]
Zach
What.
- [95:45]
Big Cat
What does that mean?
- [95:47]
PFT Commenter
Taking way too long.
- [95:48]
Memes
That is never. That has never been a thing. Ever.
- [95:52]
PFT Commenter
Be ready.
- [95:53]
Memes
That is never. Fuck it.
- [95:55]
Zach
I'll.
- [95:55]
Memes
I'll take over. I'm going to take over. 49 and a half in cold.
- [95:58]
Big Cat
Colts, Rams.
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PFT Commenter
What was your first pick?
- [96:00]
Memes
Jags plus three and a half.
- [96:02]
Zach
All right.
- [96:03]
Big Cat
Viking, Steelers over 40 and a half.
- [96:06]
Zach
Okay.
- [96:08]
Hank
I'm taking the Jets.
- [96:09]
PFT Commenter
Jets plus two and a half.
- [96:10]
Hank
Plus two and a half.
- [96:11]
PFT Commenter
I'm taking the Vikings minus two and a half.
- [96:13]
Big Cat
I'm gonna take the Broncos.
- [96:14]
Memes
That was my next. That was my other one.
- [96:16]
Zach
Yeah.
- [96:16]
Big Cat
Broncos -7 and a half over the Bengals.
- [96:21]
Zach (alternate)
I would like to take the Titans. Texans game over 38 and a half.
- [96:24]
PFT Commenter
Ooh. I like it. It's gross. That's so gross, but I like it.
- [96:29]
Hank
Yeah, it's a good one.
- [96:29]
Big Cat
Zach, can you walk me through how they get there?
- [96:34]
Zach (alternate)
If you envision it, to envision that, that amount of points hitting, I think we're just. I think we're throwing bombs.
- [96:40]
Big Cat
I would like to see.
- [96:41]
Zach (alternate)
It's just. That's fun football. I would like to see high aerial throws to the end zone. Guys coming down with them. No booth reviews.
- [96:50]
Zach
Okay.
- [96:51]
Big Cat
Nico Collins, like four touchdowns.
- [96:54]
Zach (alternate)
Let's spread the ball around a little bit.
- [96:55]
Zach
Okay? Okay.
- [96:57]
PFT Commenter
All right. Good job, boys. Let's get to our interviews. We're going to do Daniel Jones. One question with the quarterback and then we are going to go with Shane Bacon talking some Ryder Cup. Very excited. Great weekend coming up. And then we'll finish up with Fire Fest.
- [97:11]
Big Cat
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- [98:28]
PFT Commenter
Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest for one question with the quarterback. It is Daniel Jones, the best quarterback in Colts history as of right now. That wasn't my question, but if you want to comment on it, you can.
- [98:45]
Daniel Jones
I'm not going to comment on that.
- [98:46]
Zach
Okay. All right.
- [98:47]
PFT Commenter
Smart.
- [98:48]
Zach
All right.
- [98:49]
PFT Commenter
But incredible start to the season. Three and. Oh, I'll start and then we'll go around the room. One question with the quarterback, Daniel Jones. Rank these nicknames and tell us which one you maybe like, the backstory between each of them. So you have Indiana Jones, Danny Dimes, and Vanilla Vic.
- [99:08]
Daniel Jones
Wow. I mean, I guess the. The Danny Dimes thing, I feel like, started, like, right when I got to New York. I think that was like a Giants Instagram social media people started that. Indiana Jones just now. Vanilla Vic, that was. I don't know when that was, when I tripped or when I fell on Monday Night Football or whatever it was.
- [99:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [99:35]
Daniel Jones
But I don't know. Probably Indiana Jones.
- [99:37]
Zach
Vanilla.
- [99:39]
Daniel Jones
Probably Danny Dimes and then Vanilla vicks.
- [99:40]
Zach
Okay, okay. 3.
- [99:42]
Big Cat
I don't want to toot my own horn. I think I came up with Indiana Jones. I think it was like five minutes after you signed with the Colts. I was like, this. This just makes sense. This is going to be too perfect. And it's. It's a good one. I feel like obviously somebody else was going to come up with it and everybody would have come up with it, but it's a good nickname, and I feel like it fits you well.
- [100:01]
Daniel Jones
Appreciate that. Appreciate that.
- [100:03]
Big Cat
So my one question, one time you said real swag is no swag. Can you define aura?
- [100:12]
Daniel Jones
Aura? Aura? Did I say real swag is no swag? That's a. That's a quote.
- [100:19]
Big Cat
I think I'm gonna attribute that to you.
- [100:21]
Zach
Yeah. Okay. All right, thanks.
- [100:22]
Daniel Jones
Yeah. Aura. I guess it's just like a vibe like. Like a sense of. Of confident swagger that you give off that people feel. I mean, that's like a new. That's a new, like, kids. I feel like younger generation term. Right. Like, are y' all using aura? Is that part of the. Part of the vernacular these days?
- [100:43]
PFT Commenter
We're not.
- [100:44]
Zach
We're old.
- [100:44]
Big Cat
Hank does when he's talking about chasing Tatum.
- [100:47]
Daniel Jones
Okay.
- [100:48]
Zach
Yeah.
- [100:49]
PFT Commenter
I don't know if you came up with real swag. Is no swag, but I know that people were talking about it with you.
- [100:54]
Big Cat
I think it was your Duke.
- [100:55]
Hank
Your coach at Duke.
- [100:56]
PFT Commenter
Oh, that makes sense.
- [100:57]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [100:58]
Shane Bacon
Used to say that.
- [100:59]
Zach
Yeah.
- [100:59]
Big Cat
Scotty. Okay.
- [101:00]
Zach
All right.
- [101:01]
Big Cat
Maybe it was in regards to you. I. I think that it's 100. A correct quote. I believe in that. 100.
- [101:06]
Zach
Yeah.
- [101:07]
PFT Commenter
Real swags, no swag. Hank, you got one.
- [101:10]
Zach
Yeah.
- [101:10]
Hank
Dan, My. My question is.
- [101:12]
Zach
Oh, Dan. Huh?
- [101:12]
Hank
Daniel. Dan. Daniel Danielson.
- [101:14]
PFT Commenter
Which do you prefer?
- [101:16]
Daniel Jones
I don't care. I mean, whatever.
- [101:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, because I'm a Dan as well, and I. I feel like it's a. It's interesting to be Daniel. I. I don't see. You see a lot of Daniels out there. You see a lot of dance.
- [101:28]
Daniel Jones
Yeah. How do you feel about Danny? Do you ever get Danny?
- [101:30]
PFT Commenter
I got Danny for, like, a little bit as, like, a kid in, like, Little League, and that didn't stick. I think there just. If you become a Danny, you just stay a Danny for the rest of your life kind of thing.
- [101:38]
Daniel Jones
Yeah.
- [101:39]
Zach
Yeah, yeah. All right, go ahead.
- [101:41]
Hank
Oh, yeah. My question is just. This is our Colts. This is our Colts.
- [101:48]
Daniel Jones
We bleed blue.
- [101:49]
Zach
Yeah, There we go. Yeah.
- [101:50]
PFT Commenter
It's actually. This is our goals. This is our team. Oh, wow. You screwed it up.
- [101:55]
Daniel Jones
You had him on the show. Did y' all have.
- [101:59]
PFT Commenter
No.
- [101:59]
Shane Bacon
We need.
- [101:59]
Big Cat
No, we should. He should actually do our theme song.
- [102:02]
Zach
Yeah.
- [102:02]
Big Cat
For part of my take. This is our take.
- [102:05]
PFT Commenter
Have you had. Have you had him in the. In the locker room? Has he been able to, like, have you seen him, met him pregame?
- [102:11]
Daniel Jones
I haven't met him. I think he performed at one of our preseason games, but I haven't met him yet. I gotta. Gotta meet him.
- [102:18]
Zach
Yeah.
- [102:18]
PFT Commenter
All right, Zach. Don't blow it.
- [102:21]
Zach (alternate)
Hello, Dan. Hope you're doing well today, man.
- [102:23]
Daniel Jones
What's up, Zach?
- [102:23]
Zach (alternate)
What's going on, man? I got just a quick question. I was curious if the other players on your team were to describe you in three words. What three words do you think would most commonly be used, used, or what you hope to be used to best describe you as a teammate?
- [102:35]
Zach
Wow.
- [102:36]
Big Cat
Good question.
- [102:37]
Zach
Wow.
- [102:38]
Daniel Jones
We're getting. Getting deep. Hopefully good camaraderie. I think that's a theme on this team. We Got good, good dudes. Good camaraderie.
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Zach
I don't know.
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Daniel Jones
Working hard, ready to go prepared, trying to. Trying to get going. We caught. We shortened camaraderie to Rod these days, you know?
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Big Cat
Oh, I like that.
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PFT Commenter
That's Rod.
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Daniel Jones
You know, we're talking about a good camaraderie on the team.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Big Cat
That Rod going.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, we got to get that rod in here.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
I would say tough. Tough as well. You're. You're a tough quarterback.
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Big Cat
I would say vanilla Vic.
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Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
All right, Max.
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Memes
Hi, Daniel. Max, I know there's one question with the quarterback, but mine's going to be kind of a two part question, but still one question.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Memes
I'm an Eagles fan. I love Saquon. It seems like you guys have a great friendship. So my first part of my question is, how awesome is Saquon? And the second part of my question is, has he texted you and been like, see, this is pretty awesome to leave the Giants?
- [103:51]
Daniel Jones
Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, Saquon's obviously a huge superstar and, you know, one of the best players in the league, if not the best player, but he's just like a very normal dude. I feel like a lot of people don't realize that, expect him to be some, you know, different than that, but he's really, you know, just a. Just a normal guy. He's been a. Been a great, great friend and. And, you know, was a really good teammate when we were playing together. So, yeah, he is. He's everything the Eagles fans probably think he is. And we've talked. I don't know if he said that directly, but we've. We've definitely stayed in touch here these first few weeks.
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Big Cat
Yeah, that's a good answer.
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Memes
Great answer.
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Zach
Yep.
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Big Cat
All right, Memes. How you doing, Daniel? I guess that's a question.
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Shane Bacon
I looked.
- [104:47]
Big Cat
Up Daniel Jones Fun Facts, and it says you used to be a Hooper. So my question is, can you still dunk?
- [104:52]
Daniel Jones
Can I still dunk? Yeah, I could still dunk. I could still dunk.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, that's a good question.
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Big Cat
Good question.
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PFT Commenter
Now, Daniel, you can finish. Do you have a question for us?
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Daniel Jones
Question for y'?
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Zach
All? Yeah.
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Daniel Jones
I don't know if I have a question for y'.
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Zach
All.
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Big Cat
The question can also be, do you guys have one more question for me?
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Zach
Yeah.
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Daniel Jones
Okay. I actually have a question for. For pft.
- [105:14]
Zach
All right.
- [105:15]
Daniel Jones
The sun, the sunglasses, is that. Is that an all the time thing? You're always rocking the shades or what's. That's just part of the aura, I guess. Part of the swag.
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Big Cat
Part of the swag.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
Yeah, exactly. You nailed it. Yeah. It's good for the rod here. I've got such beautiful eyes that it would be a distraction if somebody were to look into them. So I don't want to take away any of the shine for my boys. Build that rod up, you know?
- [105:34]
Daniel Jones
Heck, yeah. That's sweet.
- [105:38]
Big Cat
I won't ask you this question, but we did have Andrew Luck on the podcast. We had Eli Manning on the podcast. They sat on the couch and they gave us their hard count, and it was awesome to hear. If you wanted to do a hard count, that would be fine for us. Yeah, it's not a question. It's a statement. If you wanted to do a hard count, that'd be awesome.
- [105:57]
Daniel Jones
Okay. I've heard a lot about Andrew Lux Park. I actually saw the clip that y' all had on there, and.
- [106:02]
Zach
Yeah, yeah.
- [106:03]
Daniel Jones
Quentin Talk talks about it a lot. I think his. His hard count is. Is legendary stuff I saw. I think I saw Eli.
- [106:10]
Shane Bacon
What did.
- [106:10]
Daniel Jones
Eli went through like a. A dummy cadence in a Daytona or something?
- [106:15]
Big Cat
Yeah, he got us to jump.
- [106:17]
Daniel Jones
Yeah. Y' all jumped.
- [106:18]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [106:19]
Daniel Jones
What about y'?
- [106:19]
Zach
All.
- [106:19]
Daniel Jones
What. What about Yalls heart count? Yeah. Have y' all practice? I mean, Gruden's got to be on there working on y' all question, right?
- [106:24]
Big Cat
Good question. Good question.
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PFT Commenter
Here we go.
- [106:29]
Zach
Here we go.
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PFT Commenter
Hi.
- [106:34]
Daniel Jones
Is that a hike?
- [106:35]
Shane Bacon
You threw a hike?
- [106:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I threw a hike in there. I threw a hike in there.
- [106:37]
Big Cat
When do we stop saying hike? It's like six. You're like six years old. It would them up all the time.
- [106:42]
PFT Commenter
Because I feel like people that. And maybe the hike is the dummy count.
- [106:45]
Daniel Jones
Yeah, I could throw them off.
- [106:47]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you like that?
- [106:48]
Zach
All right.
- [106:48]
PFT Commenter
Will you give us yours?
- [106:52]
Daniel Jones
What would I go? Like a hard 3? K. Like a hard 3. I think Eli did this, but, yeah, like hot, Hot. And the second one's hard, and then the next one's pretty quick. So, like, set 180.
- [107:06]
Zach
Why they. Huh? Hot hut.
- [107:07]
Big Cat
Oh, that's good. It's the last one.
- [107:10]
PFT Commenter
It's subtle.
- [107:11]
Big Cat
It's like a ghost note that pops in there. I like that.
- [107:13]
PFT Commenter
You got that. By the way, if you want to take a question with you, here's one that you could maybe throw out there. When you do see Quinn Nelson later today, ask him if Big Cat can chug a beer faster than him, because the answer is yes. And I did that at the beer games. And then I. And then I talked so much to him, and I kept on saying I'm faster than you, that I was like, eventually, like, I think he might just strangle me. He didn't. He's a cool dude. But I probably pushed it too far, so also maybe throwing an apology for me.
- [107:42]
Daniel Jones
All right, I'll ask him about that. I beat him a few weeks ago, so we might have to match.
- [107:46]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [107:47]
Daniel Jones
Yeah.
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Zach
Yeah. All right.
- [107:48]
PFT Commenter
Winner's bracket.
- [107:49]
Zach
Love it.
- [107:49]
Big Cat
I like that. That was a good question, Big Cat. It was like, I don't have a question, but if you want to ask Quentin Nelson the question. Yeah, ask him the question, but then apologize to him for asking him that question.
- [107:57]
Zach
Yeah, right.
- [107:58]
PFT Commenter
Because I.
- [107:58]
Big Cat
It's journalism, baby.
- [107:59]
PFT Commenter
Was a moment where I was like, I think he might. I think this might not be funny anymore for him because I walked around literally just walking up to everyone being like, hey, who do you think chugs faster? Me or Q? And I did that probably about 15 times until the point that he was just like, okay, man, that's probably enough. And it was.
- [108:17]
Big Cat
You get something about that?
- [108:19]
Zach
It was. Yeah, yeah.
- [108:21]
PFT Commenter
But he's the man. All right, Daniel, thank you, man. We really appreciate it. Best of luck on Sunday. We're rooting for you. Incredible start to the season. Let's. Let's keep it rolling.
- [108:30]
Daniel Jones
I appreciate it, guys. Thanks for having me.
- [108:35]
Big Cat
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PFT Commenter
Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He's our good friend talking golf golf on CBS. Show. It is Shane Bacon. We're getting ready for the Ryder Cup. As people are listening to this Friday morning, the Ryder cup has begun. Shane, let's talk big picture first. Are we going to win the Ryder Cup?
- [110:59]
Shane Bacon
We as Americans, I think Europe's gonna win.
- [111:02]
Zach
Oh.
- [111:02]
Shane Bacon
But obviously, historically, I think obviously it's going to lean towards the home team. I was doing a little bit of research for you boys. The last five Ryder Cups all won by the home team by an average winning score of six and a half points. Of course, they're only 28 points up for grabs. The whole Ryder Cup. So it's been kind of blowouts over recent history with the Ryder cup. And in terms of sporting events, I actually think it's kind of important for the Europeans to win this thing. I think putting the, the pressure kind of on the Americans in a couple years that a dare manner. I mean, the Americans hadn't won a Ryder cup on European soil since the 90s. I mean you're talking 30 years or so since that happened. So I think actually the, the visiting team winning one of these things that hadn't happened since 2012 would actually be good for Ryder Cups.
- [111:47]
Big Cat
Oh, I, I disagree. It'd be good for Ryder Cups if we did it. Yeah, it'd be bad if it happened.
- [111:52]
Shane Bacon
That's kind of what I'm setting it up, though. Pft. I. I kind of want it to be set up for that to kind of happen after the Euros win this one. Plus, the Euros are so stacked, they're bringing back 11 dudes from the, the winning team a couple years ago in Rome. And when you kind of look historically over teams that have brought back basically 11 returning players, one rookie on the team. 85 Europe they won. 89 Europe retain the Cup. 99 US 1. 2012 Europe 1. So when you bring back this level of players once again in Ryder Cups, historically, you go on to win the thing.
- [112:24]
Big Cat
So. So right off the bat, we had a schedule switch up at the last minute. So they're the, the opening ceremony on Wednesday. They're doing it instead of Thursday. That got moved up a little bit. Does that affect anything at all? Does that affect the. When they announced the pairings, does that affect anything about what's going to happen on Friday? Or is that just strictly like a ceremony, Bring everybody in, say nice things. We're now here to officially kick off the Rider Cup.
- [112:50]
Shane Bacon
Yeah. Just because of weather. Weather expected to be in and around the area on Thursday, so they can't be outside. So they just bumped it up a day. You know, tennis shoes on, suits on, ready to rock on Wednesday and then obviously kind of flowing and by the way, hot take with the, the tennis shoes on with the suit.
- [113:04]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, let's talk about that.
- [113:05]
Big Cat
We need, we need to discuss what.
- [113:06]
Shane Bacon
Are yalls thoughts on that?
- [113:07]
Big Cat
I had never really thought about it before and then I saw it and I was like, yeah, the Europeans look better than us.
- [113:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, the no ties and tennis shoes. It doesn't look like we're taking it seriously.
- [113:19]
Shane Bacon
The Europeans take this thing more seriously. I mean, that's basically what the Ryder cup is. I had a discussion on the show the other day with Patrick McDonald, who I do the show with, and we were talking about how American media, people, somebody like myself, maybe even one of you guys. Pft. I know you're rooting for, for Team usa Big cat. I'm assuming you are as well.
- [113:36]
PFT Commenter
Like Hank probably is rooting for Europe.
- [113:39]
Shane Bacon
Hangs reading for Europeans, obviously for the super bowl and all that stuff. I mean, that's kind of a Hank thing. But when you think about American media members, it almost feels like a lot of rooting for the Europeans. And when you think about the European media at the Ryder cup, like they are die hard cry when the Europeans win. I mean, it is important to the people in and around these teams as it is the players. So it feels like you. You know, I wrote something about this. You guys had Joe Buck on a couple of weeks ago on the pod. By the way, great interview. Love, Joe.
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PFT Commenter
Thanks.
- [114:09]
Shane Bacon
And he was talking about the production meetings for the Bronco Seahawks super bowl. And remember when he said he met with Peyton in the bus and it was, you know, talking about Broncos football, and then he met with what was the Legion of boom all together, and he knew instantaneously it was going to be a bit of a blowout. That's a little how I feel in terms of this writer.
- [114:28]
Big Cat
So we got to check them for Adderall. We got to get Victor Hovland and check that piss out. That's what I'm hearing from you.
- [114:34]
Zach
So.
- [114:34]
PFT Commenter
So how do we take it more seriously? Like you. Like, is it a cultural thing? Because I was saying that the chance are we get bodied in the chance when Europe when always played us a bad chance. Yeah, but not only just like. Like you're. It's the soccer thing. They just know how to do like, you know, they'll pick like some 80s power ballad and change one word and it will sound the coolest. The coolest thing ever. Whereas we don't have anything. We just yell mashed potatoes.
- [114:58]
Zach
What.
- [114:58]
PFT Commenter
What do we have to fix?
- [115:01]
Shane Bacon
It kind of goes back to the core of these teams. And I mean, when you think about the core of the European teams and it's just continued on. I mean, you know, you go back to. And obviously every golf person is going to bring up Sevyn, who was really kind of the face of this to start back, you know, in the. In the 80s and 90s for the Europeans. But it's just followed suit, like the Colin Montgomery and the Lee Westwoods and every European kind of buying into the process of this, Even the players that maybe weren't the most clutch individual players. Luke Donald, for instance. Right. The captain this year, Ian Poulter, Justin Rose. All of these players have kind of bought into the idea of team. And it always has felt like the American golfer, whether it be Tiger or Phil or David Duvall, into kind of the. The modern player. It's very individualized. I think there was a time Jordan Spieth was very much into this thing, and I think Justin Thomas is very much into this thing. But you still have kind of the individual markers that kind of float between these events. I mean, you guys, you know, good buddy Brooks Koepka, who has been probably the best one or two Best major champion golfer over the last decade or so in terms of golf outside of Rory. He didn't quite buy into what the Ryder cup was all about. He'd play decent at it, but it felt like some of the really big superstars on the American side would show up, and it wasn't everything to them. They were playing golf. It was an event that they had to play. And I also think the President's cup probably doesn't help the fact that the Europeans get a year off in terms of teen golf. The Americans have to play in something every single year. And when you do that, I'm assuming it's a bit exhausting at the end of the season to have to have something every year to have to play in and have to obviously show up for and play decent, or else, obviously, it's embarrassing for, you know, your team and your captain.
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Big Cat
Yeah, that's fair.
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Zach
That's.
- [116:40]
Big Cat
That's a fair way to look at it.
- [116:41]
Zach
They.
- [116:42]
Big Cat
The specialness of playing team golf for your country. It's. It's more important to the Europeans. And I. I do agree with what you're saying about the media, too. I wish our media would get behind Team USA in this, like, we will. If it turns out that when we check in on the Ryder cup on, like, Saturday morning, we're winning, then me and Big Cat will be.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Big Cat
All in on it. The most fascinating thing to me about the Ryder cup is how the different host countries can kind of put their finger on the scale a little bit with the course, since they're setting the course up. And this is Beth. Beth Page Black. I'm not sure if you know this. It's a very hard course. There's a sign that they put up saying, warning experienced golfers only. I love that merch, by the way, where it's just like the letters on the visor. It's absurd. It's the most. It's the ugliest hat ever.
- [117:27]
Shane Bacon
Did you see the visor?
- [117:28]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [117:28]
Shane Bacon
Did you see the visor one? It's. That's a look, man.
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Big Cat
I. I want to put. I would want to punch myself in the face for wearing it, but I also want to wear it. But it's fascinating to me how you can try to mess with the course a little bit to give an advantage to your team. So what has Team USA done to Beth Page Black to make it easier for them, harder for the Europeans?
- [117:48]
Shane Bacon
So rough is cut down a bit. I don't necessarily know if that actually helps the Americans. I think the Europeans have plenty of Long hitters in terms of their golfers. I think, you know, historically, Americans have had longer hitters, so they want the rough to be short. I think they've taken a little bit of the bite out of the golf course. I mean, it doesn't. It's not going to play to the level of a best Beth Page black that you've seen at U. S Opens. I mean, it's not going to be this punch you in the nose kind of golf course. I also don't think the Ryder cup wants that. I think you want to see birdies and eagles win holes, and I think pars winning holes isn't the most exciting thing, but I think the rough is going to be very, very manageable and easy to play out of. I think if us three went and played Beth Page Black, like, on a typical year in August, the rough would probably be more thick that time than what you're going to see this week at a Rider cup, you know, for. For these two teams. And I think the greens are going to be extremely fast. Now, again, I don't know if that necessarily helps the Americans, but I do think when you look at this team, putting is, in theory, going to be something the Americans can lean on in terms of an advantage.
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PFT Commenter
All right, so. So the actual setup of the tournament, we obviously know how it's set up, but for our listeners who aren't big golf fans, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I know, is singles. How does a Friday Saturday format work?
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Shane Bacon
Yeah, so. So Friday's morning foursomes, which is alternate shot, and then afternoon is four ball, which is best ball. So, you know everybody's hitting their own golf ball mornings. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
No, no, no, no.
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Big Cat
So it's like you're two and two, and then whichever member of your twosome scores lowest, you use that score.
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PFT Commenter
That's the score.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Shane Bacon
Yeah, I watched. I watched the Ryder Cup, Big cat. And I mean, I know you didn't play the level you wanted to play, but you were dialed on the rules. I thought. I thought you had that pretty locked.
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PFT Commenter
No, no.
- [119:25]
Shane Bacon
I'm surprised you didn't quite understand this. This version of it. And then obviously it rolls into Sunday singles, where everybody plays. So not everybody plays any of those formats prior to it. You're going to have dudes sitting out on both sides, both in the foursomes and the four ball.
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Big Cat
So one thing that's interesting to me about the. The foursomes, which is alternate shot. I was looking at the stats over the years, and the home team dominates the alternate shot. It's not even close. Like singles and the. The best ball that's kind of like up for grabs maybe a little bit favors the home team, but yeah, the alternate shot is weighted heavily, like way more than any other event towards the host country. Do you have any idea why that could be?
- [120:07]
Shane Bacon
I don't necessarily know why the home country feels more comfortable in that environment, but it does. You're. You're spot on. I mean, if you win foursomes, you win the Ryder cup, basically is how it works these days. If you can dominate alternate shot, you can win it. I mean, when you look at some of these. And I know pairings are going to be out by the time this airs, but when you look at some of the potentials on the American side, I do think there's a slight advantage for them if they lean into it. I mean, they were so good a couple years ago in terms of the format, you know, early on in terms of the home country, and then obviously you can flip it with four ball. But I mean, I think there are some guys like, I want Keegan to roll out Justin Thomas and Bryson like to start alternate shot. I think those two guys pair well in terms of their capabilities on the golf course. Bryson obviously can lean on a lot of the big driving holes and JT can lean on the great iron play. And I also think on the American side, you don't have a lot of personalities. You don't have a lot of kind of big personalities like you typically have in terms of a Ryder cup team. Those are the two biggest personalities on the American team. And I think Keegan could roll those guys out, put them together, fire up the crowd, and then let some of the more quiet guys kind of play after.
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PFT Commenter
Is there a level that the crowd could get too nasty? I saw a little bit of that where the Europeans. But why we should get as nasty as possible?
- [121:19]
Shane Bacon
I mean, it's golf. I think there's decorum that kind of goes along with golf. I mean, I'm with you. I think, you know, I think getting in people's kitch makes this event a little bit more special. I mean, I take you guys, for example, right? You guys are. I think you guys would consider yourselves golf fans at this point, but it's going to happen over the weekend with college football on Saturday, in the NFL on Sunday. What's going to make Big Cat and PFT tune in? Yeah, it's going to be a close match and it's going to be a bit of drama like we saw in Rome with the caddy and La Cava and Rory going at it. Maybe the fans kind of get in people's ears. That's what's going to make this event kind of catch fire outside of your traditional golf fans. And I think about you guys watching on a Sunday. Is a TV going to be on the golf? If it's not close, probably not. But if it's. If people are chirping, you might. You guys might throw a TV on. So, I mean, I think they should lean into it.
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PFT Commenter
Hank. Well, it depends. If tennis is on, Hank will go tennis first, then golf.
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Big Cat
And if. If it's close, I would say it will probably be on. If it's not close, I would say probably we're just gonna pretend it didn't happen.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, we're gonna say it was a.
- [122:17]
Big Cat
We're not. Yeah, we're gonna treat it the same way we did the. The four nations final.
- [122:21]
PFT Commenter
All right, so who. Who in. On the European team is the most likely to complain about the fans? Because I want the fans to go extra hard on them.
- [122:30]
Shane Bacon
I mean, I think Tyll Hatton is probably the easiest answer. I think Shane Lowry's probably answer number two. I would probably throw Rory in there. I mean, I think Rory embraces it more than most guys do in this event. I think Rory, if you pull players, he'd be one that would say, I want more chirping than less. But I could see people kind of leaning maybe on his teammate or something, and the Rory getting a little offended by it. But I'd say Tyrell's the easy one A, and Shane Lowry's probably one B.
- [122:55]
Big Cat
I would like to send somebody from the Louisville Police Department up to the parking lot to make sure that just in case Rory speeds off after a round. If he's upset.
- [123:03]
Zach
Yep.
- [123:03]
Big Cat
Pull his ass over.
- [123:04]
Zach
Yup.
- [123:04]
Big Cat
Like, if he doesn't break the law, that's fine. But if there's a taillight out, if he doesn't signal, I want Rory held to account for American laws. Also, I think the US Kind of sent a message to the fans when they showed up wearing the. The tennis shoes. Like, okay, no decorum this weekend. It's off. We're letting it all hang out. So Stu Finer, let him have it.
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PFT Commenter
Just get crazy.
- [123:26]
Zach
Yeah. Who. Who.
- [123:27]
PFT Commenter
Who on each side is the most important player? Not best, but most important player?
- [123:33]
Shane Bacon
I would say it's easy to say Scotty on the American side. I mean, I think he's probably the most important player in terms of terms of playing five matches, but I think the answer I'd go outside of the best player in the world is Xander. I mean, Xander has had a very off season this year after obviously winning two majors last year. He's been solid in Ryder Cups and President's Cups in his career. We haven't quite seen Xander play great golf this year. And when you're, you know, a top three player in the world in theory, the Americans need you to play well, and they're going to need Xander to kind of pair up with Patrick Cantlay and kind of do what they do in these Rider Cups. So I'd say Scotty's probably the easy answer on the American side. I'd probably go Xander on that side of things. And an interesting side on the. On the Amer, on the European thing is this. Rory's the answer, right? If Rory plays well, they're going to win the Ryder Cup. I think it's interesting to lean on what we see from Matt Fitzpatrick this week. Matt. Matt Fitzpatrick is 170 in the history of the Ryder Cup. Now, I was doing some math today for you boys. I think it's the worst percentage of anybody that's ever played more than one Ryder Cup, 12.5%. The only match he's ever won was a couple years ago alongside Rory. If he has a bad Ryder cup, he's going to go down statistically as the worst Ryder cup player of all time. So I think for Fitzpatrick, who has played better golf over the last two, three months, I think he's got a lot of weight on his back in terms of just showing up and playing solid. Or else again, you're 19 and 0 or potentially 119 1. I mean, that. That's something you're gonna have to carry with you the rest of your career.
- [124:58]
PFT Commenter
All right, so off that question, why. Why is it? Ever talked about the Tiger sucked in the Ryder cup and also, why did he suck in the Ryder Cup?
- [125:07]
Shane Bacon
I think the partners got nervous. I think Tiger played with people, and they kind of freaked out. You know, he played well in the President's Cup. He got the right pairings there. Obviously, President's cup weighted because America won all the time, but, you know, he'd always play with Steve Stricker, and they would dominate on the President's cup side of things. Never quite found that level of partner in terms of Ryder Cups. You think about early in his career, and you kind of roll out Marco mirror and somebody like that, and then it was always kind of paired with just random dudes. He'd play with one guy and then play with somebody else. And I think there was a level of intimidation playing alongside Tiger when you were those guys knowing, man, I gotta play so great.
- [125:42]
Zach
Yeah.
- [125:43]
Shane Bacon
Or else I'm gonna be the one people kind of blame. They're never gonna blame Tiger for this.
- [125:46]
PFT Commenter
Does that exist at all with Scotty? Because Scotty's obviously playing out of his mind right now and had an incredible season. Is there a little bit of intimidation if you play with Scotty where you put more pressure on yourself?
- [125:56]
Shane Bacon
I think so. I mean, I think we saw a little bit of that in Rome. I think you've. He's got the right guy alongside him. I think he'll play a lot with Russell Henley this week. And I think Russell Henley is kind of the perfect personality in terms of somebody you're going to play. By the way, speaking of personality, Big Cat, you're going to be a big fan of this. You know how the writer cup rolls out and they always have weird things that the captains do.
- [126:15]
Zach
Yeah.
- [126:16]
Shane Bacon
Keegan Bradley. I had Harris English on the Ping podcast. I do. And he said that they used Kirby Smarts Georgia personality chest test for the American Ryder cup team. So I'm sure that's gonna win. Right.
- [126:29]
PFT Commenter
I. I had to take that.
- [126:30]
Zach
The.
- [126:30]
PFT Commenter
The hype videos were too early in the week. Monday was too early for a hype video. I just wasn't ready for it. I want to get the hype video.
- [126:37]
Big Cat
Right before I was just anti golf hype videos in general.
- [126:40]
PFT Commenter
It was actually glued activator who had the tank, But I agreed with him.
- [126:43]
Zach
Yeah.
- [126:43]
PFT Commenter
Glued activator.
- [126:44]
Zach
Yeah.
- [126:44]
Big Cat
Kirby Smart.
- [126:45]
Shane Bacon
The European picture with the smoke, by the way, was interesting. Do they have a smoke machine behind them? That's. I didn't get that picture at all.
- [126:51]
Big Cat
Again, that's going to be Stu Finder's job to just blaze up a movie.
- [126:54]
Zach
Yeah.
- [126:55]
Big Cat
And just blow in their ear. Blow it in Rory's ear, Stew.
- [126:58]
Zach
Yeah.
- [126:58]
Big Cat
No, that's fascinating. With the Kirby Smart personality test, I would like to see what goes into that. So if we can get our hands on that. If anyone's at Georgia, let us know. I. I got a dumb question about alternate shot. Whose ball do they use?
- [127:11]
Shane Bacon
Like, if one dumb question.
- [127:13]
Big Cat
One guy plays like a tailor made. One guy plays a top flight.
- [127:18]
Shane Bacon
Always the approach shot. So if you. If you're. If you're. If you and me Pft. Are playing and I'm teeing off on the hole, we're using your golf ball because you're hitting the approach in on a par three Obviously, it's the guy that's hitting the golf shot in, because off the tee it doesn't really matter. But in terms of distance, spin rate, things like that, with your irons, you're going to want to be hitting your golf ball. So it's always kind of the. The approach iron shot into the green.
- [127:41]
Big Cat
That's not what I would have thought about hitting off the tee. Yeah, it's your tee, your ball. Go for it. Fascinating. With Patrick Cantlay, we're used to hating Patrick. We're used to being like this slow guy. I can't stand watching him. He makes golf boring. He takes 15 minutes to finish a par three. How can we convince ourselves to root for this guy that we've grown up hating? Do we have. Is there any spin zone that we can give ourselves?
- [128:08]
Shane Bacon
Yeah, I mean, I think. I think Patrick Cantlay is, you know, I mean, I think you got to have a heel on your team, right? I mean, I think throughout history, great sports teams typically have the Dennis Rodman like, character that you don't want to play against, but you want him on your squad. And I think Cantlay is that also. I'll say this, historically, in the Ryder Cup, Americans have had Patrick's that do well that maybe you don't root for 51 weeks out of the year.
- [128:32]
PFT Commenter
That's true.
- [128:32]
Shane Bacon
So maybe it's a Patrick thing.
- [128:34]
Big Cat
That's true. I was also thinking that, like Europeans, they. If you ever watch a soccer game, you guys waste time all the time. So this is just our version. Deal with it.
- [128:42]
Shane Bacon
It's a good point.
- [128:43]
PFT Commenter
What does this or have to be on Saturday night for us to have a shot? If we're down, let's say we're down because then obviously it's 12 matches all each match has a point on Sunday. So it's like you can always be alive, so to speak. But what does the score have to be for us to be like, hey, we could still win this thing.
- [129:03]
Shane Bacon
Yeah, can't be down more than three. I think it's probably the way you got to look at it. I think you can be down three and have an opportunity. Historically, Americans have been better in singles. So I think if you're down 3 going into it, there is opportunity. I. I'm really, really fearful of the Americans if they're down at all. Considering the experience on the European side. I think they got to go into singles with a lead to win this thing. I think the Europeans are going to be scary, scary tough. If they're leading, going into Sunday, considering basically 1 through 10. Now, if I was going to rank 1 through 24 of the guys on both teams, I think Steph Strocka and Shane Lowry, with the way they're playing right now, would be my bottom two. But you can hide those guys. If you had the lead, you could put them out, you know, 10, 11, or 9 and 10. But I think, you know, basically 1 through 10 on the European side right now is playing excellent, excellent golf. And they would be very, very tough with the. With the lead. I think the Americans have to have it at least tied going into Sunday.
- [129:55]
PFT Commenter
All right, so then flip it. What. What is a lead the Americans have that you're like, this is cooked. We won that this man.
- [130:04]
Shane Bacon
I'd say four, but that was Medina. I'd say four and a half. I think if they're up four and a half going into Sunday singles, I think it's. It's done dusted. Game over. Start the champagne celebration.
- [130:13]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [130:13]
Zach
Okay.
- [130:13]
Big Cat
I. I know it's. We don't know what the pairings are going to be. We don't know Keegan Bradley's style, but, like, how much of a. An impact can the. The captain have on the final score? Like, what's the swing between a very good captain and a very bad captain?
- [130:29]
PFT Commenter
Point.
- [130:29]
Shane Bacon
Point and a half. I think it's probably fair to say. I think it's a little bit like Major League Baseball, where maybe the manager doesn't have a massive impact once the game begins, but I think the impact leading into a game can matter. So I'd say probably a point, point and a half. In terms of analytical team, people you have in the background, kind of the work you put in leading into a Ryder Cup.
- [130:47]
Big Cat
What about the strategy of conceding putts? I know there's usually some dispute that happens at some point during the weekend. Oh, he didn't give me that putt. I'm mad at him that he made me putt the ball one foot and then, you know, that turns into its whole side storyline. But is there, like, a strategy that works best in terms of. Okay, anything within two and a half feet in. Is that line three feet? Is it the length of the putter? Like, do they think about this going in the matches? Like, we're not conceding anything today, ball and hole.
- [131:13]
Shane Bacon
Yeah. I. A pro golfer once told me about concessions. If I wouldn't want to putt it, I'm not giving it. So maybe it could be two feet, but have movement. Right. It could be a righty having A two foot putt that moves left to right and you have to play just outside the hole. Maybe that's a putt you make them hit. But if it's three feet straight up the hill with no movement, maybe that's a putt you give. So I don't think there's necessarily a foot per se in terms of what you give and what you don't. But maybe the difficulty of what that putt looks like for the player, you know, if it's a lefty with a putt that's moving left to right, you know, it's a little bit of an easier putt. So maybe you give that putt as well.
- [131:45]
PFT Commenter
Well, is there any strategy? Like if I were playing in the Ryder Cup, I would just give everything early and then, and then let them give me back. And then at the end just be like, haha, gotcha. Like we thought we were playing nice.
- [131:57]
Shane Bacon
I do think there's a little strategy involved in giving putts early and not giving them late or maybe not having a guy hit a putt inside of five feet early. I think that happens probably more in a Ryder cup than anything else. I mean, Big cat, I love your strategy of conceding the hole as soon as possible. Oh yeah, I do think that's like a cool way of going about. Like, don't let him get the confidence.
- [132:17]
Zach
Right.
- [132:19]
Shane Bacon
Yeah. I mean you can see, I think you can see the one at the Ryder cup off the tee. Didn't you?
- [132:22]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you got to, when you know, you just, you're like, I'm fucked, let's just go to the next hole. Yeah, it's my, I mean, I don't really have anything in my golf game except trying mind tricks and those don't work either.
- [132:32]
Shane Bacon
I also decided, I think watching Hank play Match Play Golf is Among my top three favorite YouTube Golf.
- [132:40]
Big Cat
Love that.
- [132:41]
Shane Bacon
So passionate. Yeah, he wants to win so bad. You see the, like the, the, the crash and burn and also like you know, the euphoria when it goes well. I just absolutely can't get enough. I wish Hank had his own golf channel and just plug. I mean, four days a week, you know.
- [132:58]
Big Cat
Okay, well you're in luck because there's a new video of Hank and Match Play that's coming out either Thursday or Friday. So I, I would recommend watching that one. It's a good one.
- [133:05]
Hank
Me and PFT are also playing for five grand in a couple weeks.
- [133:08]
Big Cat
Yeah, yeah. So speaking of that, maybe in this video there might be something that you've never seen in Match play before. I'm curious to know your take on this. We were playing, and it wasn't me, it wasn't Hank. It might have been the people that we were playing with. They both ended up in the shit. Off the tee, but in opposite directions. Each one of them proceeds to hit their next, like two or three shots, either deeper or into the water. They both get frustrated. They both said it. I concede on opposite sides of the hole and then drove to the middle. Each person was going to concede the hole to the other person. They didn't know that they had won the hole. What do you do in the event of a double concede?
- [133:50]
Shane Bacon
Wow. Yeah, I don't, man. I'd have to call the USGA and ask that. I've never heard that before. I do like the idea of. Maybe it's the. Maybe it's like kind of like when you put your scorecard in, first in, last out. Maybe it's the first person that mutters concession than the other person. But I guess if you say it at the same time, maybe it's flipping a tee or. Or maybe it's just both laws a hole and you move on.
- [134:10]
Big Cat
Yeah. Like if you had already conceded and then you're driving to the fairway and the other guy goes, hey, I give up. You're like, oh, okay. I'm just not going to tell him that I already conceded this hole.
- [134:20]
Shane Bacon
Yeah. I mean it. Everybody quits, right? I mean, I feel like that's how I play. Like, my kids in any board game, they just like, who's going to quit first? Because they're getting frustrated and so am I. Yeah.
- [134:29]
Big Cat
Pick it up and move on.
- [134:30]
PFT Commenter
Hank, do you have a question for Shane?
- [134:32]
Big Cat
Yeah, I'm interested about the.
- [134:33]
Hank
The debut talents.
- [134:36]
PFT Commenter
You're looking at drafting the rookies.
- [134:38]
Hank
The rookies.
- [134:38]
Zach
Okay.
- [134:39]
Big Cat
Yeah, obviously that's.
- [134:41]
Hank
You know, we haven't seen them play in these type of tournaments. Is there one of these guys who's maybe better equipped for it or someone that's like, you know, going to be feeling the pressure more?
- [134:52]
Shane Bacon
I really like JJ Spawn this week. I think JJ Spawn is going to have an epic, epic Ryder cup, personality wise, the way he's played this season. You know, you think about J.J. spawn, of course, he won the U.S. open. He could have had a season where he won the US Open, won the players, and won a playoff event. I mean, that's a pretty polished year. When you think about what Scotty did and Rory did, basically the third best player in terms of going about your business. In the biggest stages, I just feel like you can roll that. And we saw that with Max, you know, a couple times in Ryder Cups and President's cup. Kind of riding that momentum wave to major success. I see JJ Spawn as kind of a Max homo like, character at the Ryder cup for the Americans. I could see him having a big, big week.
- [135:29]
Zach
Who.
- [135:29]
PFT Commenter
If we do lose, who can we blame? Is it. Is it. Will it be Keegan because he picked the wrong guys.
- [135:38]
Shane Bacon
Yeah.
- [135:38]
Zach
Who, Who, Who.
- [135:40]
PFT Commenter
Who would have. Because I want to have just something. If we lose, I want to be like, oh, we should have had this guy. I'm just going to tweet that. So tell me, like, what I can smartly tweet. Like, oh, they should have picked him. That was so stupid.
- [135:51]
Zach
Yeah.
- [135:52]
Shane Bacon
You know, it's interesting is it would be tough to lean on anybody, you know, outside of Keegan Pickett himself. I think he was the lone character that had an opportunity to be on this team. You know, Jordan Spieth wasn't playing great golf, although he's been great in Ryder Cups in kind of his history. And also I think he's a great personality fit for a Ryder Cup. But really, when you think about, like, you know, when you do, like, the bracket in March Madness, and there's always that one team left off that everybody gets upset about, that wasn't really the case for either of these teams this year. I mean, there wasn't really one guy that. That didn't make it, that you were sitting there rolling your eyes, saying, you know, ASU should have been in the bracket.
- [136:25]
Zach
Right.
- [136:26]
Shane Bacon
And so maybe you could blame Keegan, I guess, is probably the easiest person to blame.
- [136:30]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [136:30]
Shane Bacon
If you're looking for, like, a tweet to go semi golf viral.
- [136:33]
Zach
Yeah.
- [136:34]
Shane Bacon
But I don't know. I mean, maybe Koepka, like Kafka.
- [136:37]
Zach
Yeah.
- [136:38]
Shane Bacon
One in France. He'd have been an easy one to say, where was Koepka? Even though he hadn't really played good this year, obviously won at Beth Page Black when the. When the PGA was there a few years.
- [136:46]
PFT Commenter
I like that, though. I'll just say Jordan speeds, and Koepka would have won.
- [136:48]
Big Cat
Yeah. Well, if you say. If you blame Keegan, you're actually also complimenting Keegan. You should have been like, hey, if he had picked himself, we would have won.
- [136:56]
Shane Bacon
It's a good call.
- [136:57]
Zach
Yeah.
- [136:58]
Big Cat
Believe in yourself as much as I believe in you, Keegan. I'm. I'm blaming Keegan the captain, not Keegan the golfer here.
- [137:03]
Shane Bacon
It's like, it's like when you get asked in an interview, like, what's your. What's your. Your greatest flaw? And then you somehow compliment yourself.
- [137:09]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [137:10]
PFT Commenter
Try too hard.
- [137:11]
Big Cat
Yeah, Yeah.
- [137:12]
Shane Bacon
I work. I would just work too hard.
- [137:13]
PFT Commenter
I'm too good.
- [137:13]
Shane Bacon
I'm too hard of a worker.
- [137:14]
Zach
Yeah.
- [137:15]
Big Cat
What's it like playing with Bryson as a partner? And I guess this is more specifically towards alternate shot, but since he hits the ball so much further than everybody does, he actually end up putting his teammate in a position that they're not used to.
- [137:28]
PFT Commenter
Maybe.
- [137:29]
Shane Bacon
But, I mean, you guys have played golf. I mean, you'd rather hit a wedge than a seven iron. I mean, I think it's. Think it's awesome to play with a guy that drives the golf ball as good as he drives the golf ball. I think if you're Justin Thomas, who. It's kind of been his Achilles in terms of the way he's played this season, driving the golf ball, it kind of has fallen off in terms of his consistency and his accuracy. If you're JT Paired up with Bryson and you're like, dude, this guy's hitting.340 and he's hitting eight fairways or nine fairways, I mean, golf's much easier from that position. I think Bryson has potential to be a big, big star this week. I mean, obviously he's gonna get the crowd behind him, but with the way he's going to interact and the way he's going to kind of dive into this, if him and his partner win Thursday morning, or, sorry, Friday morning, and maybe go out and play Friday afternoon and he wins again, he's going to feed off of that. He's going to eat that up. And I think he's one of those guys you want to be paired up with as opposed to not wanting to be paired up.
- [138:18]
Big Cat
Now, the people that are going to be cheering for Bryson, are they going to be bots or are they going to be real people?
- [138:23]
Shane Bacon
Mix, probably. I'd say about half and half.
- [138:24]
Big Cat
Okay.
- [138:25]
Shane Bacon
I have to check the numbers.
- [138:26]
Big Cat
A wild take for.
- [138:27]
Zach
From.
- [138:27]
Big Cat
From Brandless Chimbler. Wait, what's his name?
- [138:30]
PFT Commenter
Brand. Brand.
- [138:32]
Big Cat
Brandeis.
- [138:32]
PFT Commenter
Brando. Brando. Ch. Chamby.
- [138:34]
Big Cat
Brando.
- [138:35]
Zach
Yeah.
- [138:35]
Big Cat
Wild take from Brando.
- [138:36]
Zach
Right?
- [138:36]
Big Cat
To be like, hey, this guy, all his views are bots. I listen, we've been as big a haters of Bryce in the past as pretty much anybody, but we can admit, yeah, the guy gets numbers.
- [138:46]
Shane Bacon
I. I kind of thought it was like the perfect take. I mean, it. It was just like. You talk about a take that just gets people riled up, and there's no way to kind of come quantify it. I thought it was maybe the perfect take about something that may or may not be true. Who the hell knows how many bots are watching a YouTube video? I thought it was kind of perfect, actually. I mean, it's ridiculous, but also I thought it was kind of a perfect take. And again, anytime you can kind of outreach golf in terms of a take, you. You've won a little bit.
- [139:13]
Zach
Yeah.
- [139:13]
Big Cat
The number's more than zero, so he's not technically wrong. Zach, do you have any questions about the Ryder Cup?
- [139:20]
Zach (alternate)
I did have a question for Shane. Does that play? Yeah, Shane, I was curious if you. Has there been any thought to maybe a sequel to the Golfer Zoo?
- [139:28]
Shane Bacon
Oh, we've thought about. Nice, Zach. Thank you for the question. It's really nice. That's the children's book I wrote. Big Cat said it was too long, but his kids liked it.
- [139:34]
PFT Commenter
I skipped pages, but that's fine.
- [139:36]
Shane Bacon
Yeah, that's fine. I do the same thing with my kids as well. I've thought about a touch feel one. So we've talked about that. I've talked to my publisher about one for maybe smaller, smaller children that you can like, touch and squeeze little golf things on it. So thank you for the question. That's very nice. You all Venmo you later.
- [139:52]
Zach
Okay, Good question.
- [139:53]
PFT Commenter
Perfect. All right. So you're. You really think, like, we're not. I'm not going to bet on Europe. I refuse to bet on Europe. But if. If we were just completely. If we're a Canadian listening to this right now you're saying Europe plus 170 is the bet.
- [140:09]
Shane Bacon
I think it's the best. I think it's. I think the fact that you're getting plus money on Europe is what? Wild.
- [140:13]
PFT Commenter
Can't do it.
- [140:14]
Shane Bacon
I would, I would. I would hammer Europe right now. I think it. I think it's potential for blowout on the European side.
- [140:21]
Big Cat
I don't like that.
- [140:22]
PFT Commenter
Oh, I don't like it.
- [140:23]
Big Cat
But this is a great, great reverse jinx.
- [140:26]
PFT Commenter
No, Hank's not going to do it. I appreciate that.
- [140:28]
Zach
Hank.
- [140:29]
Shane Bacon
No. Not going to pull the trigger.
- [140:30]
PFT Commenter
Nah, can't do it. You got to root for usa. And again, we're just going to pretend it didn't happen if we lose.
- [140:36]
Big Cat
Yeah, it's fine.
- [140:36]
Zach
It's not a big deal.
- [140:37]
Big Cat
Like golf season.
- [140:38]
Shane Bacon
You guys talk about it on Monday? If, if. Will you guys talk about it on.
- [140:41]
PFT Commenter
Monday if Europe wins 60 seconds most.
- [140:44]
Big Cat
Yeah, I mean, we We've skipped over a lot of stuff.
- [140:48]
Zach
Yeah.
- [140:48]
PFT Commenter
First, biased is biased.
- [140:50]
Big Cat
We're going to talk about that. Bill's Ravens game from night. That's what we'll dip into.
- [140:54]
Zach
Yeah, Way better.
- [140:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, way better. All right, I got one last question. Roback question. R, H, O, B, A, C, K.com promo code, take. Roback.com promo code take. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. What hole is your favorite hole at Beth Page Black?
- [141:13]
Shane Bacon
Love. 17. I think it's to be pivotal, obviously, late in the round, but I think 17. If I was going to set up shop, I'd go to 17 and watch and watch that. I think that'll be where most matches end up. 18's probably one of the weaker closing holes you'll see in terms of championship golf. It's fine, but it's not the most exciting. I think 17 is the spot.
- [141:32]
Big Cat
Okay, what's the easiest tool? What's, what are the birdie holes out there?
- [141:36]
Shane Bacon
The par fives are birdiable. I think two will be pretty gettable as well, actually. One with the tees moved up. I think Rory and Bryson will get close to driving the first. They move the tees up for the grandstands. I think there's going to be an opportunity for dudes to maybe get in those green side bunkers or get really close to the front of the green there. I'm off the tee, the longest hitter, so 1 and 2 is not a bad spot to be as well.
- [141:55]
Big Cat
Okay, that's awesome. I like that. How does the pairing announcement go? Is it like we do when we do the, the Ryder cup, where it's, the team announces one pair and then Europe has a chance to respond and they get to name the next two?
- [142:07]
Shane Bacon
That's, that's pre President's cup is, is the comp, which I think is the way to do it. This is you present both, which is. I, I, I don't love it as much. I just don't think it's as much fun. But this is, that's the way they do it. That's kind of when Rory was talking about the last time out with Can't Lay and where he was going to fall on in terms of getting put out there in the third spot. That's the presentation is simultaneous.
- [142:31]
Big Cat
Okay. Is it, is it really against the rules if, like, somebody hits a ball deep into the rough, into the gallery, and they kick it out for a United States player? Is that, is that really against the rules?
- [142:43]
Shane Bacon
A Fan kicks it out. No rub of the green.
- [142:45]
Zach
Oh. Oh, okay.
- [142:46]
Big Cat
Well, listen, Long island, you have a chance to prove New York is a great sports. I don't want to tell. I don't want to tell you to do anything, but this. This would be the funniest thing to ever happen. Happen to golf if. If we were just fairway every single drive. You're pretty much on the team if you're in the galleries.
- [143:05]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's.
- [143:07]
Shane Bacon
That's an interesting home field advantage. It's like. You just act like it hits you.
- [143:12]
Zach
Yeah.
- [143:12]
Shane Bacon
Just bounce.
- [143:13]
Big Cat
Yeah, it's like.
- [143:13]
Shane Bacon
Right.
- [143:14]
Big Cat
It's like when you're bowling with bumpers, you're golfing with them.
- [143:18]
Shane Bacon
Yeah, I was. I was working last week with my buddy James Nitties, and he said he hit one in a tour event one time, and it hit a lady's head and kicked 30 yards out of bounds, and she's yelling at him. He yelled four. And she was yelling at him when he got up there about hitting her. And he's like, well, you. My ball's, like, in the hazard now, you know?
- [143:34]
Zach
Right.
- [143:35]
PFT Commenter
You've.
- [143:35]
Shane Bacon
Now I'm gonna miss the cut, you know? Now, I had an opportunity for that to be, like, in the left rough to a right hole location. I might make birdie. So, yeah, kind of rub of the green there.
- [143:42]
Big Cat
Tiger had some of those guys back in the day that would give him a little foot wedge sometimes. Help them out.
- [143:47]
PFT Commenter
Kick it out.
- [143:47]
Big Cat
Yeah, kick out.
- [143:49]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [143:51]
Shane Bacon
I mean, you guys. You guys are true Americans. I mean, it's great content, by the way. Hey, big cat, listen, the driver everywhere on the par three.
- [143:59]
Zach
Yeah.
- [144:00]
Shane Bacon
I'm a big fan of. I don't like people trying to talk you out of it.
- [144:03]
Zach
Yeah.
- [144:03]
Shane Bacon
I also think you should go, like, driver, three wood, five wood, seven would, nine wood, in the bag, almost no irons.
- [144:10]
PFT Commenter
I like that.
- [144:11]
Shane Bacon
I think that would help you out a lot.
- [144:12]
Zach
All right.
- [144:12]
PFT Commenter
I need. I have two years to get better. I have two years till the next Ryder Cup. I have to do it in secret because I want to just one day just be better than Hank. It would. It would devastate him. So I got to figure it out.
- [144:23]
Zach
Sick.
- [144:24]
PFT Commenter
I need. I need some golf ball.
- [144:26]
Shane Bacon
Yeah, I mean, you can. By the way, last question for you guys. There's three of you guys. You guys have been in Chicago for what, two years now?
- [144:32]
Zach
Yeah.
- [144:34]
Shane Bacon
What's the. What's the total number of country clubs between the three boys in the Chicago area?
- [144:38]
Big Cat
I think. I think we're up to Two now.
- [144:40]
PFT Commenter
No, you. Did you join one?
- [144:42]
Big Cat
No. Oh, I think we're up to two now. All right, Hank, are you sure? I think we're about to be at two, though, aren't we?
- [144:48]
Hank
Yeah, it's one right now.
- [144:49]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah, we might be it too.
- [144:50]
Zach
Nice.
- [144:51]
PFT Commenter
Might be it too.
- [144:52]
Shane Bacon
Just Hank.
- [144:54]
Big Cat
Hank.
- [144:54]
Shane Bacon
Just the. The sweet boy over there. I have to fly to Chicago, play some G and yeah, those are pretty nice.
- [144:59]
Hank
Love to have you.
- [145:01]
PFT Commenter
Oh, man. All right, Shane, you're the best. Thank you so much, man. Have fun out there.
- [145:05]
Shane Bacon
Thank you, fellas.
- [145:08]
Big Cat
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- [145:51]
PFT Commenter
Fyre Fest of the week. Henry.
- [145:55]
Hank
Fire fest. Nothing crazy. Nothing really at all. I mean, the people were saying it was a fire fest. I didn't really look at it that way. I'm washed, though. One of our co workers went semi viral for posting a clip being like.
- [146:07]
Big Cat
Yeah, like, oh, Jacob said this really funny.
- [146:10]
Hank
People always ask me, you know, they say they don't know barstool. And they asked me about Hank who's just like some no name producer behind the scenes, which I just viewed as like me being washed. But I guess some people are like, you got a fire fest?
- [146:25]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. But then other people said, you're the co host of the number one sports podcast.
- [146:30]
Zach
Yeah.
- [146:31]
Hank
Sorry to Gaz.
- [146:32]
Zach
Yeah.
- [146:32]
PFT Commenter
Gas number one.
- [146:33]
Zach
Hank.
- [146:33]
PFT Commenter
Hank guy.
- [146:34]
Big Cat
I actually think Hank is like, you fly the highest when you get put down by something. So like in the aftermath of someone saying that, everybody was like, you're out of your mind, Hank.
- [146:44]
Hank
Yeah, it was.
- [146:45]
Big Cat
Honestly, I appreciated the support.
- [146:46]
Hank
I appreciated the support and I honestly understood what she's saying because like, I enjoy it. It makes me laugh. A lot of times when people say, you work at barstool. People like, I don't really follow Barcelona. And then they will bring up like 10 barstool things. It's like, well, yeah. You follow Barcelona?
- [147:01]
Zach
Yeah.
- [147:01]
Hank
All those things are barstool.
- [147:03]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [147:04]
PFT Commenter
Hank's the glue guy of this show, so I always has been.
- [147:06]
Shane
I understood.
- [147:07]
PFT Commenter
You are. You're the glue of the show.
- [147:09]
Big Cat
What does that mean?
- [147:10]
PFT Commenter
It means you're the glue. If you weren't here, this show would fall apart.
- [147:14]
Big Cat
And we get high when we smell you.
- [147:16]
Zach
Yeah. Wow.
- [147:16]
Hank
Thank you. But, yeah, it was. It was. It was. It was actually nice people. A lot of people were supportive, so I appreciated it.
- [147:22]
Big Cat
It's good.
- [147:22]
Hank
So not really a fire fest. I don't really have any firefights. My car didn't get broken into. I actually got it all fixed.
- [147:26]
Zach
Oh.
- [147:27]
Hank
Drive's good now. Going to Penn State this weekend.
- [147:31]
Big Cat
State. Penn State.
- [147:32]
Hank
Penny Steve Penn might be on the Jumbotron. Who knows? Stay tuned.
- [147:35]
Zach
Whoa. What?
- [147:36]
Big Cat
Awesome.
- [147:37]
PFT Commenter
Hank, if we are gonna be on the Jumbotron.
- [147:40]
Hank
Possibly.
- [147:42]
Zach
Yeah.
- [147:43]
Big Cat
You got a great golf video coming out.
- [147:45]
PFT Commenter
James Franklin.
- [147:47]
Hank
Yeah, it is a good golf video.
- [147:49]
Big Cat
Yeah, it's a good golf video. I agree. People should watch it.
- [147:53]
Hank
And when we have $5,000 online, I'm gonna smoke you.
- [147:57]
Zach
Okay.
- [147:57]
Hank
Not that I didn't in this one.
- [148:01]
PFT Commenter
I love when you guys fight over golf.
- [148:03]
Zach
Yeah.
- [148:03]
Hank
So does Shane Bacon.
- [148:05]
Zach
Yeah, that.
- [148:06]
Big Cat
That is a pretty hilarious reveal that Hank has now two golf club memberships.
- [148:10]
Zach
Yeah.
- [148:11]
Hank
I don't. By the way.
- [148:12]
PFT Commenter
You're in process.
- [148:13]
Hank
I'm thinking about it.
- [148:14]
PFT Commenter
You're loading. Second loading.
- [148:15]
Big Cat
You've mentally committed to it.
- [148:17]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [148:18]
Hank
I'm trying to unlique.
- [148:25]
PFT Commenter
Gotta unlique. I want to be sitting around with sound advice.
- [148:27]
Big Cat
Yeah, it is. It's an investment.
- [148:29]
PFT Commenter
Invest it.
- [148:30]
Zach
I am.
- [148:32]
Big Cat
He's investing in himself.
- [148:33]
Zach
Yeah.
- [148:33]
PFT Commenter
How many will you get to.
- [148:35]
Hank
I don't think I'll go more than this unless I get, like, you. Money.
- [148:39]
Zach
Yeah.
- [148:40]
Big Cat
I don't think anybody stops at two. I think everybody stops at one.
- [148:43]
Zach
Yeah.
- [148:44]
Big Cat
But if you go two.
- [148:45]
Zach
Yeah.
- [148:45]
Big Cat
It's like Cats. You're just gonna get more.
- [148:47]
PFT Commenter
You're just gonna be a golf. Golf.
- [148:48]
Hank
There's. There's. There's functionality. Like it.
- [148:51]
PFT Commenter
It's for a reason. Like, you got one club you can play at. You need another club you can play at. Functionality.
- [148:56]
Zach
Yeah. Right.
- [148:58]
Big Cat
You're getting.
- [148:58]
Zach
Yeah.
- [148:58]
Big Cat
If you get bored, then we'll just go to the other one.
- [149:02]
Zach
Yeah. All right.
- [149:04]
PFT Commenter
All right. Pft. Your fire fest.
- [149:06]
Big Cat
Can Shane come in here? Oh, can we get Shane in the booth for mine?
- [149:09]
PFT Commenter
Any Shaney boy.
- [149:11]
Big Cat
Yeah. So we do. We do the morning show. I do. I do Thursday mornings on FS1. And we had an idea. Big Cat does the morning show as well. Hank, we need to get you on the morning show.
- [149:24]
PFT Commenter
No, I'm thinking Jacob.
- [149:26]
Zach
Yeah.
- [149:27]
Big Cat
Get some eyeballs. I saw the awful announcing. We need some eye candy. So on today's morning show, me and Jeff D. Lowe came up with this idea, like, five years ago. We wanted to do a. A cooking show where we would try to figure out how to prepare a football and how to cook a football. And I asked Donnie, Chef Donnie here if he wanted to figure out how to cook a football for me and ate it on the morning show. I feel awful right now. My stomach is terrible. But guess what? I am football now. Football is a part of my blood. It'll always be in me. I'm committed to it. But when I was. I was looking for the football to cook, I stopped by Shane's desk because he had a football on there. And so I grabbed Shane's football, and. And Shane was like, don't take that. That's my football. And then I looked at memes, and he was like, no, it's not actually his football. That's just. It's just an office football that Shane has claimed for himself. And so I took the football, and we cooked the football. Max even sent Shane a picture of the football being prepared, like, deflated and chilling in water. And Shane got really upset about that because it was like we were sending a ransom video or we were saying.
- [150:31]
PFT Commenter
Why are you shaking your head?
- [150:32]
Big Cat
Picture of a dead loved one.
- [150:33]
Shane
There were so many lies that were just this.
- [150:35]
Big Cat
So, no. Did you consider this your football?
- [150:38]
Shane
No, I did not. I did not tell you. Don't take that as my football. You asked, can I take this? And I said, yeah, can you please bring it back?
- [150:48]
PFT Commenter
Because it's my fault, but I'm gonna know.
- [150:50]
Big Cat
I'm gonna eat it.
- [150:51]
Shane
Well, there's, like, a backstory behind why I asked. So, like, I don't know if it's all right to say, but Max. Max can be a little ADD sometimes.
- [151:00]
Zach
Oh, yeah.
- [151:03]
Hank
How dare you?
- [151:03]
Zach
Yeah, how.
- [151:04]
PFT Commenter
How dare you?
- [151:05]
Memes
And that's fair to say.
- [151:06]
PFT Commenter
That's fair to say that I had a. I just wanted to quickly say, like, what if every pass before the line of scrimmage was a fumble?
- [151:14]
Big Cat
Oh, that's a good take.
- [151:14]
Zach
Yeah.
- [151:15]
Big Cat
I also don't think that you can say that Max is a little Anything.
- [151:18]
Zach
Well.
- [151:18]
Shane
And.
- [151:19]
Zach
Oh, no.
- [151:20]
Memes
Well, anyways, he will certainly say you're a little. Lot of things.
- [151:23]
Big Cat
There was. There we go.
- [151:25]
Shane
So over the last couple months, Like, I'm. Now Max sits closer to me. He will, like, randomly stand up and, like, take things off my desk and, like, be talking to somebody and then just, like, forget where he puts it or, like, not put it back. And then I've had, like.
- [151:41]
Memes
To be fair, Shane was so worried. I found the football, brought it back to him. He said, no, this isn't the right football. Went and checked the security tapes to see if it was the right football. It was the right football. So that's the extent of how much he cares about this.
- [151:57]
PFT Commenter
That's a lot of caring about.
- [151:58]
Shane
It's the perfect. It's the perfect throwing ball, though. It's, like, perfectly worn.
- [152:02]
Memes
It was the perfect throwing ball.
- [152:03]
Shane
And I only, like, so things will go missing from my desk. And that week, I lost a Tide stick, and I got Polynesian sauce on my sweatshirt so I couldn't get the stain out.
- [152:15]
Big Cat
So, Max, he returned the correct football to your desk is what I'm hearing.
- [152:19]
Shane
No, he did not return to the desk.
- [152:22]
Big Cat
Max, would you do that?
- [152:23]
Shane
He threw it onto the chair right.
- [152:26]
Memes
Next to our desk.
- [152:27]
Shane
Well, it's behind the monitors and stuff. I couldn't see it. Then memes grabbed it and then put it in, like, a. Like a case of things on the ground. It was. I overreacted.
- [152:38]
Memes
The case of things on the ground right next year.
- [152:39]
Shane
But that's why I asked. Can you please bring it back? Because things will go and, like, I know, like, Jack's taking the football before and just, like, left in the net out there and stuff.
- [152:49]
PFT Commenter
It's your football.
- [152:49]
Shane
Well, no, it's.
- [152:50]
Big Cat
To Shane's credit, People do just take.
- [152:52]
Shane
Stuff off the golden Stella blue golden mugs gone missing from my desk.
- [152:56]
PFT Commenter
Like, everything.
- [152:56]
Memes
But you going, that was not me.
- [152:58]
PFT Commenter
You going to try to find the football? Makes me think it's your football. Otherwise you wouldn't care.
- [153:02]
Shane
Well, I just like the football. Like, it's.
- [153:03]
Zach
I.
- [153:04]
Shane
It's not something I want to lose track to say.
- [153:06]
PFT Commenter
It's your football.
- [153:06]
Shane
No, it's not my football. The only reason I asked, I tried.
- [153:09]
Big Cat
To give him another football that was the exact same make. Exact same. Like, it was the Duke, same football. And he's like, no, that's not the right football.
- [153:16]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's your football.
- [153:17]
Shane
No. So all I did was I asked he could bring it back. And then he goes, no, I'm gonna eat it.
- [153:22]
Zach
Right?
- [153:23]
Shane
Which I didn't. I thought he was just gonna borrow it for, like, an ad or something. So I just asked if he can bring it back. And then all I asked was, does it have to be this football? Because there's 20 footballs out there that no one.
- [153:33]
PFT Commenter
And that's your football. No, it's okay to say it's the best football.
- [153:38]
Hank
It's.
- [153:39]
Shane
Everyone uses. It's good football. It's just the perfect football.
- [153:42]
Memes
Well, you can. Everyone can use it, but you have to bring it back to Shane's desk.
- [153:45]
PFT Commenter
Right, because it's your football.
- [153:46]
Zach
Yeah.
- [153:47]
Memes
It didn't seem like I was allowed to use it when I was using it.
- [153:50]
Shane
That's just not true.
- [153:51]
Big Cat
No, but that's because you take stuff and you wouldn't put it back like that.
- [153:54]
Memes
I could have taken the Tide stick. That does seem like my ADD brain would, like, take a Tide stick.
- [153:58]
Shane
I used to have a, like, a DraftKings basketball. I went missing off my desk. People just grab, like, stuff off my.
- [154:04]
Big Cat
That football belonged to Shane.
- [154:05]
Shane
All I did was ask if you could bring it back.
- [154:06]
Big Cat
But I couldn't because I was gonna eat it. Well, I didn't.
- [154:09]
Shane
Well, you said, can I take this? And I said, yeah, can you please bring it back when you're done? And then you go, no, I'm gonna eat it.
- [154:15]
Big Cat
The look on your face, it was so sad when you realized that that football was going to get eaten. And I felt really bad about it. But if it makes you feel any better, after I ate it, I've been crapping my brains out. Apparently there's, like, chemicals and glue. I have a. I have a physical tomorrow, and my doctor's going to be like, how's your diet? And I'm going to have to be like, well, I ate a football yesterday, had glue and stuff in it, so probably not. Not the cleanest diet in the world. So now I'm a little bit concerned, though, because, Shane, what I did, I wanted you to think that I took your football and I ate it. So then I actually, I saved your football.
- [154:51]
Zach
Oh, good.
- [154:52]
Big Cat
Which I have right here. But now I think I might have saved the wrong football. And I think we did cook and eat your football.
- [155:00]
PFT Commenter
Well, it's not his football.
- [155:02]
Big Cat
The football that was on that was Shane's.
- [155:04]
Zach
Right?
- [155:04]
Memes
I. I don't say it's change football.
- [155:06]
PFT Commenter
I don't say it's. No, it's not his football.
- [155:08]
Big Cat
I want to see the football.
- [155:09]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [155:09]
Shane
I'm going to buy a football. I'm going to buy it.
- [155:11]
Zach
Dude.
- [155:11]
PFT Commenter
That's going to be my football. That would be my football.
- [155:13]
Shane
So, people, I can't.
- [155:14]
PFT Commenter
I don't have to deal with Is that your football?
- [155:16]
Big Cat
I thought that this was Shane's football, but then now I'm hearing that the football was changed, and I think that accidentally.
- [155:23]
PFT Commenter
Is that your football?
- [155:24]
Zach
I can't tell.
- [155:24]
Shane
I need to feel.
- [155:25]
PFT Commenter
Wait, let me.
- [155:26]
Big Cat
Let me.
- [155:27]
Shane
Let me see the.
- [155:28]
Memes
You still won't know.
- [155:28]
Big Cat
We've known.
- [155:29]
Shane
Let me.
- [155:30]
Memes
It has been proven that you don't know because this was the football that we found the security tapes for that you were adamant was not the same football, but it was the same. Okay.
- [155:39]
Shane
Well, there's also a scuff mark on side, which after our conversation, I decided to look at so I could differentiate.
- [155:45]
PFT Commenter
If you need to fully feel this football and see if it's your football, do you need to put on your rings?
- [155:50]
Shane
I did not.
- [155:51]
PFT Commenter
Okay. I want to see those rings so bad.
- [155:55]
Shane
This.
- [155:55]
Big Cat
This is our football this year.
- [155:57]
Shane
This is our football.
- [155:58]
PFT Commenter
That's your football.
- [155:58]
Zach
Yes.
- [155:58]
Big Cat
Okay.
- [155:59]
Zach
Change football.
- [156:00]
PFT Commenter
So he would know. He would know because he touches it.
- [156:02]
Zach
Yep.
- [156:03]
PFT Commenter
That sounds like a good football owner.
- [156:05]
Zach
Yeah.
- [156:06]
Shane
Thank you for. For saving. That's very kind.
- [156:08]
Big Cat
I. I do feel like I'm gonna die, though. Like, low key.
- [156:11]
Shane
The football gods.
- [156:13]
Zach
Yeah.
- [156:13]
Big Cat
This it. Whatever's in a football, it's. Again, I'm glad. I'm glad that I did it.
- [156:18]
Zach
Yeah.
- [156:18]
Big Cat
I'm really glad that I ate that football. But it. I'm gonna have a rough day.
- [156:23]
PFT Commenter
All right, My fire fest. We touched on it Wednesday. Wisconsin football is in a bad spot. I've also then just signed myself up for a shitload of work because I did a hit on ESPN Milwaukee on Thursday and I. Or Wednesday, and I told my good friend Ben Bruss, if he gets a list of the richest people who went to University of Wisconsin, I will cold call them for a video and live stream it. So that's just more work and maybe illegal work.
- [156:48]
Big Cat
Is it?
- [156:49]
PFT Commenter
I don't know. But I'm gonna have to do that.
- [156:51]
Big Cat
You can't live stream because you have to say, like, I'm recording. You're live.
- [156:54]
Zach
Yeah.
- [156:54]
PFT Commenter
Just hitting everyone up for money.
- [156:56]
Big Cat
What if you just made a podcast?
- [156:58]
PFT Commenter
Maybe. I just know that I used to do. I did that for a job for a little bit, like doing the tele fund. And it's the worst job ever to call someone cold. Call someone, be like, hey, can we get some money? But I will do it. And I'm not looking forward to it, but I'm going to do it.
- [157:13]
Zach
Yeah.
- [157:14]
Big Cat
Sales is. Is. It'll take its toll on you.
- [157:17]
Zach
Yeah.
- [157:17]
Zach (alternate)
All right, Zach, finish off my fire fest. The week Is we may have recently talked about how my apartment building did get sold to a different company.
- [157:25]
PFT Commenter
Oh, I don't remember this.
- [157:27]
Zach (alternate)
All right, we got. We got some letters under the door the other day that was like, hey, great having you.
- [157:32]
Big Cat
We're gone.
- [157:32]
Zach (alternate)
We're selling this building. New guy owns the building. My favorite face of the week is like, we've been invaded by new employees of the building. No more familiar faces. It feels like I'm living in enemy lines.
- [157:43]
Zach
Oh, yeah.
- [157:44]
Zach (alternate)
Like, it's new regime. That's exactly what it feels like. There's, like, an unsettling energy of, like, will we main, like, be able to continue to stay here? We got different policies with the mail.
- [157:56]
Hank
Are they just trying to squeeze you out?
- [157:58]
Zach (alternate)
Like, that could also be the case. It feels like. It feels. It feels really tense in every floor.
- [158:03]
Shane Bacon
Of the building now.
- [158:03]
Big Cat
No pajamas in the hallway.
- [158:05]
Zach (alternate)
I wouldn't even risk it. I might even go full formal. Formal in the hallway now? Yeah, it's. I don't know what the future looks like, but it does look like it's. Every time. Every day I get home, it feels like an away game now rather than like a safe space.
- [158:21]
Big Cat
Are they doing stuff where. Since they're. Since they're new, are they, like, putting breakfast out for you guys or trying to make it seem like they're a cool management company?
- [158:29]
Zach (alternate)
So the other day they did. They put, like, two pots of coffee downstairs by the front door, but there was also, like, six new guys walking around, shirts tucked in with clipboards, just noting stuff down. I was like, this can't be good.
- [158:41]
Big Cat
Yeah, that's what they. That's what they do. They'll put out, like, the worst continental breakfast and be like, hey, we're such a nice management company. I look forward to working with you guys.
- [158:49]
Zach
Yeah.
- [158:49]
Big Cat
As your tenant here. By the way, rent's going up $1,000 a month, but you get. Look, we got a bagel for you.
- [158:54]
Zach (alternate)
I can feel that there's, like, a looming sense of that's what's going to happen.
- [158:58]
Zach
Yeah, yeah.
- [159:00]
Zach (alternate)
We got Big Texas, but by the way, we're going to 30% increase.
- [159:03]
Big Cat
Yeah, yeah.
- [159:04]
PFT Commenter
Don't let them do that to you, Zach.
- [159:05]
Zach (alternate)
I'm going to try to stand strong, but I don't think it's going to work out.
- [159:08]
PFT Commenter
Your lease is up, what, six months?
- [159:11]
Zach (alternate)
Yeah.
- [159:12]
Big Cat
Pretty soon you could hardball, Zach. You could organize a rent strike.
- [159:15]
Zach
Yeah.
- [159:16]
Zach (alternate)
Like a picket.
- [159:17]
Big Cat
Well, just tell everybody in your apartment building, don't pay the rent to the new company. They can't affect all of us.
- [159:24]
Zach
They.
- [159:25]
Zach (alternate)
That's another thing. They shut the portal down. So I gotta figure out how to get a checkbook. I've never done that before.
- [159:29]
Big Cat
Okay. Have you ever written a check?
- [159:32]
Zach
I have.
- [159:33]
Zach (alternate)
Not outside of, like, school, like, teaching you how to write a check.
- [159:36]
Zach
Okay. I've been.
- [159:37]
Zach (alternate)
Checklist.
- [159:38]
Hank
Do you guys have checkbooks?
- [159:40]
Big Cat
I do.
- [159:41]
PFT Commenter
I do not have a checkbook.
- [159:42]
Big Cat
Me neither.
- [159:42]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah. All right.
- [159:44]
PFT Commenter
Good show, boys.
- [159:45]
Big Cat
Gotta pay the dink guy somehow.
- [159:49]
PFT Commenter
Ready? No.
- [159:53]
Big Cat
Penalty box.
- [159:53]
Zach
No. Ready. Set. No.
- [160:01]
PFT Commenter
Numbers. Three. Oh, that's close. I go four.
- [160:10]
Big Cat
I'm gonna go five. I got it. I'm looking at a video. Jaden practicing right now. I. I think he's playing.
- [160:16]
Zach
I got it.
- [160:16]
Hank
I'll go 22.
- [160:18]
Zach
39.
- [160:20]
Memes
33.
- [160:23]
Big Cat
Zach.
- [160:23]
Hank
The Zach reveals all time.
- [160:25]
Zach
99. Poke.
- [160:28]
Hank
Just look at numbers on the thing.
- [160:29]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you're hot. What was your number, Zach?
- [160:34]
Big Cat
30.
- [160:37]
Memes
Zach said he's actively trying not to get it.
- [160:40]
PFT Commenter
97. 97. Well, memes is actively trying not to get it too. Guy will never get it. I've stood on that hill.
- [160:47]
Zach
It's.
- [160:48]
PFT Commenter
It's much more impressive to not get it.
- [160:50]
Zach
Yeah, right.
- [160:51]
Big Cat
How many. How many people have gotten it? Everybody.
- [160:54]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, how many people have it trying to get it? Every time one guy hasn't gotten it.
- [160:59]
Big Cat
Look, you guys.
- [161:26]
Zach
Sa. Sa.