NFL Week 6, Fastest 2 Minutes, Baker Mayfield MVP, Chiefs Are Back, Drake Maye Looks Awesome + Playoff Baseball, Cubs Eliminated And Who's Back Of The Week

Summary

Pardon My Take — NFL Week 6, Fastest 2 Minutes, Baker Mayfield MVP, Chiefs Are Back, Drake Maye Looks Awesome + Playoff Baseball

Date: October 13, 2025
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into NFL Week 6, with the hosts delivering their trademark blend of humor, hot takes, and in-the-weeds football analysis. They tackle the week's most surprising developments—Baker Mayfield’s MVP campaign, the Chiefs’ resurgence, and a wild Panthers win. Playoff baseball heartbreaks get prime attention, with Big Cat processing the Cubs’ elimination. The show features the "Fastest 2 Minutes" segment and wraps with lively banter and “Who’s Back of the Week.”

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. The Fastest 2 Minutes — Week 6 Blitz

(03:24 – 10:45) The beloved PMT segment delivers rapid-fire, pun-filled summaries of every NFL game, setting the episode's tone:

• Carolina Panthers: "Don’t count the Carolina panthe theirs dead because Rico Daddle said I’m him… gaining 239 from scrimmage." (Big Cat, 03:24)
• Ravens: "Pooper Rush is playing like a number two quarterback as the Ravens are looking to dig their way out of their biggest hole yet…" (PFT, 04:23)
• London Game: "In foggy London town … passing for net negative 10 yards. J.K. Dobby the Elf, J.K. Dobby is a free elf…" (Memes, 05:29)
• Dolphins-Chargers: "Kung Fua Tagliavoa was able to hit Darren Great Waller… but just like Mike McDaniel's pants they came up short." (Big Cat, 06:30)
• Patriots: "Drake all things seem possible in May… for a P1 finish." (Big Cat, 08:01)
• Bucs-49ers: "Baker Oven Mayfield hands off to Rashad White Chocolate Chip, who absolutely drags his macadamia nuts across San Francisco's defense." (Zach, 08:57)

Notable moment:
Max gives a musical sendoff with an impromptu Jameis Winston-themed rendition of "Take It Easy." (10:10)

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2. London Game Recap: Jets-Broncos (Negative-10 Net Pass Yards)

(11:39 – 26:49)

• Jets offense described as "atrocious," with 32 first-half yards and negative net passing.
• Frustration with Jets’ play-calling: "I think [coach Aaron Glenn] realizes how bad this team is and he's just trying to get games over with, get the first overall pick..." (Memes, 14:42)
• Negative-10 pass yards stat: "That's the worst Jets quarterback has ever had and it's the worst by any NFL team in 27 years." (PFT, 19:19)
• Broncos’ defense: 9 sacks, defense “travels,” but offense comes out flat.

Memorable quote:
"It is a special type of torture to not even have—you know exactly what's going to happen: they're not going to score 17 points, they're going to be in the game in the first half, they're going to lose the game by maybe double digits."
—Big Cat (64:20)

Timestamps:

• 13:05 – Kurt Warner’s disgust at the quality of play.
• 14:55 – Is Aaron Glenn quitting?
• 19:19 – Historic negative-10 stat.

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3. Bad Vibes In Miami: Dolphins Players Missing Players-Only Meetings

(35:38 – 44:12)

• Tua admits: "Guys showing up late to Players Only meetings. Some guys not showing up at all…" (PFT quoting Tua, 38:13)
• Mike McDaniel’s fashion choices become a symbol of dysfunction: “You can't be 1–5 and come out in those pants.” (Big Cat, 39:33)
• Obsessive analysis of coaches' pants as a curse, with memes chiming in: “You should wear a suit. That would be cool.” (Memes, 40:01)

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4. Patriots Nostalgia, Drake Maye’s Hot Start, and Schedule Optimism

(44:28 – 50:18)

• Patriots escape Saints, Drake Maye with three touchdowns.
• Hank, bullish: “It's exciting times… tied their win total from the last two seasons.” (46:29)
• Hank predicts, “There's a very good chance The Patriots win 11 games this year, maybe 12” (47:14)
• Side debate: NFL scheduling and prospects for the back half of the season.

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5. Browns Futility and the Death Spiral

(56:25 – 66:30)

• Despite a strong defense, Cleveland’s offense (Dylan Gabriel) throws 52 times for only 221 yards.
• Pattern: “Every week...defense keeps them in the first half, then gets tired, and they lose by a margin.”
• Historical note: 11 straight games under 17 points.
• Myles Garrett: “Must be nice,” when asked how it feels to watch opponents get after the QB with a two-score lead. (65:50)

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6. Quarterback Tragedies and Franchise-Saving Hindsight

(28:40 – 29:56)

• Memes wishes: “When they drafted Zach Wilson and got rid of Sam Darnold. That’s where it all went wrong.”
• Covid-era scouting blamed for Jets’ franchise collapse: “...you couldn’t send scouts to the game and then you rely on one throw that Zach Wilson makes at a BYU pro day.” (29:30)

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7. Chiefs Are Back — Mahomes, Andy Reid, & Playoff Destiny

(123:14 – 128:15)

• “Chiefs are going back to the Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes can win the MVP. There’s nothing we can do about it. That’s happening.” (Big Cat, 124:05)
• Andy Reid smartly evolving offense—putting Mahomes under center more, making it even less fair for defenses.
• “Their offense is getting right. Their defense is good.” (124:42)
• Discussion on how fleeting the “maybe the Chiefs are vulnerable” narrative really was.

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8. Baker Mayfield: MVP Case and Bucs Hype

(115:44 – 118:44)

• Baker pulls off dazzling plays despite injuries around him: “Baker Mayfield. I mean, he’s so good. I don’t know what to say.” (Big Cat, 117:09)
• Kevin Durant tweet: “Baker, you hooping!” (PFT, 116:31)
• Mayfield’s MVP odds are now third, behind only Allen and Mahomes. (118:13)

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9. Playoff Baseball: Mariners, Cubs, and Heartbreak

(130:59 – 147:45)

• Mariners survive a 15-inning epic and take ALCS Game 1.
• “It was quite a scene. I saw some people shaming Mariners fans for crying...that’s stupid.” (Big Cat, 133:26)
• Big Cat’s personal recap of Cub’s elimination: “Soul-sucking loss…” (136:05)
• On the Cubs’ future: “The fear is Tom Ricketts will be like, oh, that was cool. We can basically just, you know, be like, hey, remember when we went back to the playoffs and not spend any money…” (142:35)

Memorable quote:
“I was proud of them for fighting back...but so it was disappointing. It’s a weird blend of disappointing but also, the team probably overachieved...” (Big Cat, 138:54)

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10. Who’s Back of the Week & Other Highlights

(154:38 – Show End)

• TSA PreCheck: PFT finally gets it, but Max hilariously explains how TSA PreCheck/Clear lines are still longer than regular lines now. “I feel good now... there’s a bubble.” (PFT, 158:21)
• College Football Coach Hot Seat: James Franklin fired at Penn State after a losing skid post-video with Hank and Max (163:00).
• Humpy the Salmon wins the race in Seattle for the first time; memes get roasted for it.
• Zach shouts out Anthony Davis for randomly dropping $4,500 in subathon Twitch chat.

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Memorable Quotes

• “It is a special kind of torture to know exactly what’s going to happen: they’re not going to score 17 points, they’re going to be in the game in the first half, they’re going to lose the game by maybe double digits.” —Big Cat (64:20)
• “Baker, you hooping!” —Kevin Durant (tweet read by PFT, 116:31)
• “You can win football games and then wear those pants. You can't be 1–5 and continue to come out in those pants.” —Big Cat on Mike McDaniel (39:33)
• “I'm boycotting... in name only. I will watch them. I'm not gonna like it.” —Big Cat on London NFL games (23:55)
• “That’s the worst Jets quarterback has ever had and it’s the worst by any NFL team in 27 years.” —PFT on negative-10 Jets passing (19:19)
• “It’s crazy to flashback, like, two years... Baker was not guaranteed of a starting job... Now he’s legitimately an MVP candidate.” —PFT (117:45)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Fastest 2 Minutes: 03:24 – 10:45
• London/Jets-Broncos Recap: 11:39 – 26:49
• Dolphins/Mike McDaniel fashion: 35:38 – 44:12
• Patriots, Maye, and AFC Playoff Picture: 44:28 – 50:18
• Browns’ Futility: 56:25 – 66:30
• Chiefs’ Return and AFC Analysis: 123:14 – 128:15
• Baker Mayfield MVP Case: 115:44 – 118:44
• Playoff Baseball Recap: 130:59 – 147:45
• Who’s Back of the Week: 154:38 – End

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Tone and Style

• Wisecracking, irreverent, deeply invested in both football and “football guy” culture.
• Mix of sharp stats, offbeat analysis (e.g., coach’s pants obsession), and personal fan anguish.
• Group chemistry shines in debates, teasing, and celebratory moments—no topic is too “inside” for an impassioned tangent.

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Useful For Listeners Who Missed the Episode Because…

• You’ll get all the week’s main storylines, off-field dysfunction, debates, and epic sports heartbreak moments without slogging through ads or waiting for the next meme to drop.
• You’ll be ready for all PMT inside jokes—like “boycotting London” (in name only), and how pants length might kill a coaching career.
• You’ll know exactly who’s got “bad vibes” for Week 7, and who’s primed for playoff heroics.
• And you’ll get a taste of the wild PMT community: from musical interludes, to salmon races, to $4.5K Twitch donations from NBA stars.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Big Cat]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Football?

[Big Cat]

What?

[Max]

What?

[Big Cat]

They're not gonna get a rumble. We start in Carolina where Brian shot shot shot shot shot shot shots everybody and Hymer was trying to get America's Team above.500 on the season in the wake of the Meow Mix retirement. Don't count the Carolina panthe theirs dead because he co daddle said I'm him running like he needed to use a gender neutral bathroom, scoring twice and gaining 239 from scrimmage. Bryce's young did his best to out duel Iraq. Prescott, who ironically was the one throwing bombs to George W. Bush, Pickens the only bright spot in the offense. Wait wait. Teach receiving news that Javante Brian Williams was also claiming that he was targeted as well. The panthers move to 20 post meow mix after a walk off field goal from Ryan Fitzgerald. Panthers 30, Cowboys 27 we go to.

[PFT Commenter]

Baltimore where Pooper Rush is playing like a number two quarterback as the Ravens are looking to dig their way out of their biggest hole yet. Puka Nakuwa and a frayed season has been a blur so far as his uniform changed from NC 17 to 12 and no one was scoring in the first half. But then Kyron Williams Wallace declared prima nocta on the Baltimore end zone. The Ravens had several chances in the red zone, but Mark Andrews Tate tried to impose his will and got flattened like a European pancake and couldn't beat the statutory crepe allegations. Dave Matthew Stafford had the ants marching down the field finding Tyler Higby baby one more time for some td's that still look great after all these years. Snoop bluntly made his way out of the backwoods and onto the field after the game and went up in smoke as The Ravens dipped to 15 against Puna Ford and the Rams. The Rams win 17 3.

[Big Cat]

Puna Ford's on the Rams.

[PFT Commenter]

He was on the Chargers.

[Big Cat]

Ah, we go across the pond where Memes has promised for a great boomer.

[Memes]

In foggy London town where we imagine all the people who had to wake up early to watch Justin Nathan Fielder say I hope you're hungry for nothing after passing for net negative 10 yards. J.K. dobby the Elf J.K. dobby is a free elf. Couldn't get it going on the ground but had to get saved by the Nate Atkins diet who showed the end zone 252lbs of lean meat as the tight end scored the only touchdown of the day. Aaron G GG Glenny and the jets decided to run the clock out in the first half. The new coach had jets fans thinking that maybe you were gonna be the one that saves me and after all, you kinda suck balls. Not much happened in the second half as the Broncos were serving up fish and chips with the side of Deez nuts as will hit the go ahead field goal as Zach Abba in the Broncos defense said gimme gimme gimme your quarterback after midnight. Won't somebody help you as we put the game away. Broncos 13, Jets 11 Great job memes.

[Big Cat]

We're back to stateside and we head down to Miami where the Dolphins were trying not to be the worst team in the AFC Far East. Everybody did their part. Kung Fua Tagliavoa was able to hit Darren Great Waller and Jalen Sanity waddle played like he was in MSG, but just like Mike McDaniel's pants the they came up short. Kamani Vidal Sassoon cut through the hair of the Dolphins defense all afternoon and it looked like the LA was gonna win this one easily. But after a furious Dolphins comeback, the Chargers, facing a tough loss in the face dipped into their bag for a Lad Macon Key bump as he sprinted down the sideline like Mark Sanchez in Indianapolis Alley putting the Chargers in field goal range and getting the win. The the San Diego Superchargers 29, the Miami Dolphins 27.

[PFT Commenter]

Now we go to Pittsburgh where for Cleveland Browns the times they are a changin as Bob Dylan Gabriel's playbook looked like a complete unknown to him and went from being a folk hero to having his own fans boo him for trying to be too electric. Myles Garrett wanted to put Aaron Rodgers in his spooky sack graveyard, but you can't kill a guy who's already used up his brain's natural supply of DMT as Mr. Rogers took off his slippers and cardigan teaching the Browns their ABCDK Metcalfe while the Connor carry on My Hayward son said don't you cry, don't you cry, don't you cry shador the.

[Big Cat]

Steelers win 239 and now we head down to the Big Easy where Henry Lockwood was on the scene down in the Bayou Drake all things seem possible in May connected with Demario Andretti Douglas who went zoom into the end zone for a P1 finish.

[PFT Commenter]

Blake Augustus Group said, I like chocolate and field goals as he had four.

[Hank]

Of them, three of which came in the first half. Taysom Henry Hill said, as far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a touchdown scorer in the.

[PFT Commenter]

Second quarter to get the Saints within one.

[Big Cat]

Mike Frable wanted to eat K Sean's.

[PFT Commenter]

Booty like groceries after he connected with Drake.

[Hank]

May 1st score and the Patriots win again.

[Big Cat]

25:19. All right for the game of the week. Zach in Tampa Bay. 49ers Bucks to kick it off in Tampa. Easy.

[Zach]

Baker Oven Mayfield hands off to Rashad White Chocolate Chip, who absolutely drags his macadamia nuts across San Francisco's defense from two yards out. Christian Metcalfe, Ray Ban Sunglasses throws on his hater blockers with the blue tent and strolls into the end zone for a touchdown. Baker Mayfield hands it off to Sean Tucker.

[PFT Commenter]

I barely know her.

[Big Cat]

Who walks in the end zone from 10 yards out. Eddie Penier was left to his own devices. Kick it 4 for 4 for 13 points.

[Zach]

But the walls keep tumbling down as Pat a cake. Pat a cake. Baker's our man. Threw it to the end zone as fast as he can to Cam' Ron Johnson and Johnson, who got into the end zone faster than those booster shots that started rolling out that one year.

[Big Cat]

We all stayed inside.

[Zach]

Tampa 30, San Francisco 19.

[Big Cat]

Great job, Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

That was great, Zach.

[Big Cat]

Oh, and we have a very special guest to sing us off. You thought he might have died on Thursday night, but it's Max.

[Max]

Standing on the corner. Jameis Winston Villanova. Such a fine sight to see. It's got a boom. My Lord walks through the blue tent door helping Darth to spell CTE Phillies error. The goddamn birds are giving me flamingia. Hang screaming.

[Big Cat]

We are Eagles lose 3417. And that was the fastest two minutes from week six. That was a great one, boys.

[PFT Commenter]

That was really good.

[Big Cat]

It's great.

[PFT Commenter]

I enjoyed your accent, Zach. Yeah, his accent was something else.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

So we're going to go always wanted to treat ourselves to staying up late and watching a full Sunday night football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah and we usually do like a interspersed Sunday Night Football. This time we're going to we're to going going to recap Sunday football at the end of all the games. Sequential order is a long day of football because Roger Goodell keeps demanding that we start the day very early. And it started with a gross one. Broncos 13, Jets 11 oh boy. This is one of those ones we should apologize to England for.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you want the colonies back.

[Big Cat]

I mean memes, I don't know if you can even be hurt anymore, but if you could be hurt anymore, this game would have hurt you more. Is that fair to say?

[Memes]

This game did hurt me more.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so it did hurt you because you so you're still able to be hurt. And this one was atrocious. The jets had 32 first half yards. They had negative 10 passing yards, net passing yards. They had 82 total yards on the game. They got their first first down right before the two minute warning in the first half, which coincided with one of the weirdest did Aaron Glenn already quit his job? Moments where the jets did a fake fake punt on a fourth and one at the end of the half to get a first down and then with that first down at midfield did absolutely nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

So watching this live, Kurt Warner was just like beyond furious about the whole thing. He was so he just couldn't speak anymore. But that that's his job is to is to tell us why he's so angry. But he was just so upset with football, with the quality of play that he just wouldn't say anything. When I watched this initially I was like memes, I have no idea what the Aaron Glenn is doing. Then I thought about it for a second. Tell me, tell me if I'm on the right track.

[Big Cat]

Is it the 38? Sorry I said midfield is there on 38.

[PFT Commenter]

But still tell me if I'm on the right track here. Memes. Aaron Glenn faked that punt and then ran the clock out because he trusts his defense so little that he doesn't want to give. He feels like it's Worth it to go for an extra, you know, one yard on a fourth down around midfield and then kill the clock at the end of the half because he thinks that if he gives the ball to the Broncos with like 40 seconds left, they're going to score a touchdown. Is that fair?

[Memes]

That's correct.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

The previous two weeks, the Cowboys scored two touchdowns in under two minutes and then to Rod through a pick six right before the end of the half in the Bucks game.

[Big Cat]

But your defense wasn't even bad today.

[Memes]

No, I don't agree with what he did. They should have threw like a five or ten yard out.

[Big Cat]

But try to get like, we were sitting there, all of us were watching this with 35 seconds left on a third and eight, like, go try to pick it up, try to take one deep shot and then punt with 35 seconds left. The Broncos only have one timeout. It was so baffling. I. I think he's quit. I think he's quit.

[Memes]

I think he realizes how bad this team is and he's just trying to get games over with, get the first overall pick and then try to get guys in. But I don't know if he'll be. If he'll be coaching this time next year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Do you think that was an embarrassing enough showing to the point where. Where Woody's going to have a talk with him? Maybe Brick has a talk with him.

[Memes]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Big Cat]

Well, Garrett Wilson, your best player, is that fair to say? On offense?

[PFT Commenter]

It's fair to say, yeah.

[Big Cat]

He said, I just didn't know exactly what the plan one was. Once I figured it out, I was disappointed. I'll just say that. And he talked to Aaron Glenn. He was just like. Like, if you're an offensive player, you're basically telling your offense you're. You guys are not capable of getting yards, which they weren't on Sunday. So I guess credit to Aaron Glenn. He was. He read the room correctly. They were not capable of getting yards. Which leads me to the other point of why is to Rod Taylor not playing like Justin Fields is? It's bad. It's bad.

[PFT Commenter]

I gotta be honest, Big Cat, I tried my very hardest to come up with a blind resume. Comparing Justin Fields and Jalen Hurts. There's not a single stat that I. That is possible to parse.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

I tried breaking it down, like, third quarter, second drive against the Broncos. Compare the two head to head. I. I tried like sec drives after the Broncos score a touchdown. I tried to parse it every way I possibly could. He's unblind. Resume unblind. Resume able. That's how bad Justin Fields has gotten at this point. He's.

[Big Cat]

It's so bad. He got sacked nine times. That's a lot of credit to the Broncos defense, which I want to talk about in a second, but he can't. He doesn't read the field well. It's like. It's painful to watch him try to pass. He had as many. He was sacked as many times as he completed a pass. Both nine. It's. It was to the point where at the end of the game, the jets had a chance to win the game, which is everything we're saying. It's like the jets were in this game. Broncos played down to their competition. The jets were in this game. There was a moment where it was a fourth and eight with I don't know how much time was left. It was like very little time left. And I said to myself, Nick Folk, who. His career long. He's like a million years old.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

His career long in the NFL is 58 yards. There is a significantly better chance for Nick Folk to make a 62 yard field goal than for Justin Fields to pick up a fourth and eight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

That's just without a doubt. I would play the field goal every single time.

[PFT Commenter]

That didn't make a lot of sense. Although Nick Folk, he looks like he's. He's enjoyed a few meals at the end of his playing career. He doesn't seem like he's. He might not have the muscle mass necessary to kick his. But still, I agree with you. You never know what's going. You can just run up and kick it as hard as you possibly can. There's a chance and there's a chance there. When they got that safety, I thought to myself, the jets are going to fuck around and win a hilarious game in England. This would be like a classic, weird start to the day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But no, they just seemed like they couldn't. They didn't seem like a football team today.

[Big Cat]

No, no. They seem like. I don't even know what it was. And again, the Broncos didn't play great. The Broncos defense played great. The Broncos offense did not play great. They threw in a safety. Was like, pretty close. I mean, Bo Nicks had a couple moments where it's like, okay, he's back to being Bo Nix. But overall, I think Sean Payton, like, that was a letdown spot that they played to, traveling all the way to London after beating the Eagles. But that Broncos pass rush is insane. Nine sacks. They have 30 on the season. So we're taping this before Sunday Night Football. The second most sacks for a team. Lions haven't played yet. They have 16. The Broncos have 30 sacks. The record is 72 by the 84 Bears. They're like, I know it is all off of a nine sack day when they're not going to get nine sacks every game, but they have 30 through, through, through six weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

They were still pretty good if you don't count that game. Like, they're still.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they had 21 going.

[PFT Commenter]

21. So pretty incredible. Yeah, The Broncos defense is always going to be. Defense travels. I think that's what we can take away. I'm willing to like write off a weird, fluky offensive game from the Broncos and be like, they'll probably be okay. Yeah, they'll probably figure it out, get better.

[Big Cat]

But they have just, I mean, got.

[PFT Commenter]

Out of England with a win. That's good.

[Big Cat]

Nick Bonito, Jonathan Cooper, DJ Jones, like all these guys are just getting pressure time and time again. And yeah, I like, they're, I think they're second in, in points given up. I think the Texans are first. The Broncos defense is what everyone was high on going into the season and they have answered the bell. Can the offense be consistent enough to take that next step Today? They weren't, but I've also seen flashes of bonix where I'm like, yeah, it can be.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So the, the negative 10 net pass yards for Justin Fields today, that's the worst that jets quarterback has ever had and it's the worst by any NFL team in 27 years. It's a long time.

[Big Cat]

Wait, what was the. Justin Fields, his rookie year. Remember the game against the Browns? We're in Aurora for that. Maybe you guys weren't there. We were in it. We what? We did a. We did a.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that 20, 21?

[Big Cat]

I think so. It was against the Browns. One of the worst games I've ever watched. I wonder what the net passing yards in that game were. He got sacked a million times in that game as well.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see. Browns 26, bears 6.

[Big Cat]

That one. That one.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, let's take a look here. Passing yards. He had 68 passing yards.

[Big Cat]

Was it net? How, how many net.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm looking up sacks right now. So let's see. Sacks, box score.

[Big Cat]

That was his first start in the NFL and we're four years into it and it's. Or five years into it and it's, it hasn't gotten much better. Uh, it was, I mean, it was bad. I just remember how bad it was. That's all. I just remember being like, holy shit. This is about as bad as it could get. Yeah, he was, he was, he was 6 for 20 for 68 yards in that game.

[PFT Commenter]

And he had 67 yards worth of sacks in that game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So one. So he had one passing yard.

[PFT Commenter]

He had one passing yard. He had a yard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, so I guess so. Yeah, he's going backwards.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, going backwards. Going backwards.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, he's going back.

[PFT Commenter]

This is where minus 10 is, is hard to do.

[Big Cat]

It was tough to watch. I, I'm not going to stop watching the London games, but I think I'm going to do a boycott in name only because I'm sick of them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I was thinking about ways to boycott in name only. We tried to name. We tried to do this last. We boycotted the first half of the Pro bowl last year. I think I might have just thrown in the second half Pro bowl for free. Yeah, but I don't think that that got the league's attention.

[Big Cat]

It's just, has no, it just always feels just weird, out of place. And it was designed when it was, whatever it was. Whenever we started doing this 10 years, 15 years ago, you could tell me we're doing this 20 years ago. I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. Time doesn't make sense to me anymore in general. When it was two times a year, it felt like an experience. It felt like something like, oh, this week we've get, we get early football, London football. Now they're just throwing it at us every single Sunday. How many more do we have? Well, we've got Rams, Jags next week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Falcons, Colts in November and then Dolphins Commanders in Spain.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Spain in Spain.

[Max]

Madrid, Rams, Jacks is good game.

[Big Cat]

I, I'm going to. Again, it's a boycott. Name only anyone who wants to join me. It's a boycotting name.

[Max]

That's not a boycott.

[Big Cat]

No, it. It is.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you can just say that. Only you can say you're boycotting.

[Big Cat]

All right. Yeah, I'm boycotting from my couch while I watch the game.

[Hank]

I have a dumb idea. Yeah, Monday Night Football in London. No, 30am on Monday.

[PFT Commenter]

Stop it.

[Big Cat]

I actually kind of like that.

[PFT Commenter]

No, nobody could watch that. 8:30am The Monday Night Football could. Yeah, we could, but like people can't watch that.

[Big Cat]

You know, people can't watch that. No, but what about like a 4:00 clock 4:00pm okay, here's something that people could watch at work because you can watch anywhere now. It's not like you know, back in the day where it's like, I'm not in front of a tv. No. Everyone can watch everywhere. On your phone, on your work. Give us an afternoon work day. I would. I'd be in on that.

[PFT Commenter]

You remember that U.S. open, the one that finished in a playoff on a. On a Monday. Yeah. Where nobody went to Tiger versus Rocco. Rocco versus Rocco. Yeah. The NFL could do that and say just like, okay, week. Week 10, we're going to take the teams that have the best two records in the NFL and they're going to play a Monday game. Monday morning. Monday afternoon game.

[Big Cat]

Not morning. Afternoon. Afternoon.

[PFT Commenter]

Like a flash scheduling thing. Because everybody would watch it.

[Big Cat]

It would save our Mondays. It would make Monday fly back by that much faster. I mean, what happened in Covid football? Remember when we had the random, like, Tuesday afternoon game?

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. We could.

[Big Cat]

What.

[PFT Commenter]

What apps are these on? I know they. They care a lot about people watching on the apps.

[Big Cat]

What do you mean?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I'm going to watch the game on the app. Right. I'm gonna. I'm going to watch the game if. If there's football being played.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I just watch on YouTube TV.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to tune in. I might. I might delete whatever app as a form of protest. Delete whatever app the game's on right after the game's over for, like, the next week.

[Hank]

Like, London. They do like, NFL Network.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know. I just watched on YouTube TV. So maybe download the NFL Network app and then delete it and then delete it and then watch it on YouTube.

[PFT Commenter]

And watch it on YouTube TV.

[Big Cat]

I'm. I'm carrying forward with my boycott in name only again. I will watch him. I'm not gonna like it, but I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna boycott a name only.

[PFT Commenter]

Could we just boycott English things?

[Big Cat]

That's fine.

[PFT Commenter]

Is there, like, an English series on Netflix that everyone's watching that we can just boycott that instead.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I like that. You know what? Rest of the year, put a tariff on England. I'm not. I'm not eating any blood sausage with, like, a whole tomato.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Guess what?

[Big Cat]

Done.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm out on spotted dick.

[Big Cat]

No tea.

[PFT Commenter]

No more.

[Big Cat]

No tea. Okay. That feels good. We talked that.

[Max]

Spotted dick.

[PFT Commenter]

Spotted dick.

[Big Cat]

Spotted dick.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a dessert. Yeah.

[Max]

No, it's not.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, look it up.

[Max]

Don't, don't Google.

[Big Cat]

Don't, don't, don't, don't Google it. Google spotted dick.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's just Google.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Dessert. Don't do. Don't just.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there it is spot a dick.

[Big Cat]

Now. Google just spotted dick. Just see it. Let's just do a quick We X out. Get ready to X out. Oh, still. He's on safe images. You're on safe mode right now. Yeah. Look at that.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at that. It looks terrible.

[Max]

It looks pretty good.

[Big Cat]

It actually kind of looks really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. If you were given.

[Big Cat]

Really funny.

[PFT Commenter]

If you had to eat.

[Big Cat]

It's like a blueberry cake.

[PFT Commenter]

If you had to put something named spotted dick in your mouth, you go 10 times out of 10 with that. Yeah, that's the best spot. That's the best form of spotted dick.

[Big Cat]

No sausage, no blood sausage, no full tomatoes. I'll always slice my tomatoes.

[PFT Commenter]

And I'm not ever going to say tomatoes ever again.

[Big Cat]

No spotted dick, no tea and boycotted name only.

[Max]

The office English version.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, fuck that, fuck that, fuck that.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Does Christian Bale have any movies coming out, like, soon?

[PFT Commenter]

You know what?

[Big Cat]

Because if he doesn't, I'm going to boycott his. Any new Christian Bale movies for the rest of the year.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, do you want to boycott Oasis? I don't think there are plenty more shows that you're going to go to.

[Hank]

Listen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but going to Oasis.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I won't go to any more.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm boycotting, going, attending Oasis shows in the United States.

[Big Cat]

We're showing you, Roger. The Broncos. Are the Broncos for real? Oh, yeah, I think so.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They are frisky.

[Big Cat]

I mean, their defense. Oh, they're. They're just frisky.

[Memes]

I love this.

[PFT Commenter]

I love where Hank's brain is. I love it because it's like, frisky. No, you're thinking back to, like, the Broncos when they used to play against Tom Brady.

[Hank]

No, I'm just thinking in the Broncos making a deep playoff run.

[Big Cat]

This defense is really good, man. And like, look at the games. They should have won the game against the Colts. They could easily be a five and one team. They threw that game away. They lost by three to the Chargers. I know. They haven't. They haven't. I mean, the Eagles win was big because they haven't played, like, a ton of awesome teams. Other than that, their schedule's not that difficult.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They have the Raiders twice coming up. They got the Giants, who are frisky Cowboys. I don't know. I'm. I think I'm. I'm backing on the Broncos and some Broncos stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

No, the Bronco. They're going to make the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

After they lost to the Chargers, I looked at the schedule and even not taking into into account the Eagles game like they. The Broncos are, they're going to be there. You're going to be a tough team to beat in the playoffs too.

[Big Cat]

Defense and you could say like, oh, they only beat the Jets 13 to 11 and they could easily lost this game. Yes. That was the most let down you could ever like, let down spot you could ever find on a schedule off of a big win against the Eagles and having to go to London. And their defense traveled. Yeah, their defense won them this game. Memes overall, like what? Oh, I have a blind resume for you. Ready for it?

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. Team one, first six games, 063 losses were in one score. Games averaged 18.5 points per game. Team two, 064 losses were in one score. Games Averaged 20.5 points per game. Which team would you take?

[Hank]

Are they both the Jets?

[Big Cat]

No.

[Memes]

One's the Lions, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, one's the 20, 21 lions right before Dan Campbell started turning that ship around. So you're close from Jack Mack. He's. It's a little copium, basically, like Aaron Glenn's about to turn this thing around just like Dan Campbell. The difference being that the jets don't have Jared Goff.

[Memes]

Yeah, it's. It's bad right now. It's really bad. Unfortunately, they're going to. There's about to be a fire sale probably this week.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Memes]

Any good, Any good players Gone? Probably Quinn and Williams too, which is sad.

[PFT Commenter]

Who would you put on the fire sale?

[Memes]

I think Breeze hall is going to go to the Chargers or the Chiefs. Alan Lazard's probably already in Pittsburgh. Yeah, both Quinn and Quincy, the Williams brothers.

[Big Cat]

They're gone, most likely. Are you splitting them up?

[PFT Commenter]

I think you sent them both to the same team.

[Memes]

Same team.

[Big Cat]

You got to.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be fucked up meme as a Jets fan. If you could go back in time to like one specific. One specific moment that the jets have had like a decision that they've made and you could do the thing where you, you like scream at them. No, don't do this. Stop what you're doing right now. You're going to destroy everything. What, what moment would that be?

[Memes]

When they drafted Zach Wilson and got rid of Sam Darnold.

[PFT Commenter]

That's where it went. That's where it all went wrong.

[Big Cat]

That's a good one. What about.

[Hank]

Would you have taken instead?

[Big Cat]

No, it would kill them.

[Memes]

Sam Darnold, Sewell.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that was.

[Big Cat]

That would have been good at the time. What were you 25 years old by the Way he's so young.

[Memes]

It was just fucking Joe Douglas.

[PFT Commenter]

At the moment. What were you saying?

[Memes]

At the moment?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. During that draft.

[Memes]

I get behind anybody they draft. I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

I follow.

[Memes]

I follow blindly.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't give a shit.

[Memes]

I think COVID ruined football with all those quarterbacks in that draft. They played in front of no fans. So then all you have is their pro day. You couldn't send scouts to the game. And then you rely on one throw that Zach Wilson makes at a BYU pro day.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a good throw.

[Memes]

You rely your entire. Sorry, I'm rambling.

[Big Cat]

No, no, keep going.

[Memes]

You trust your entire franchise in this fucking pussy from Utah.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Keep going.

[Memes]

And then you're fucked for years to come. And then you have to rely on a 41 year old who was still good. I liked him. And his Achilles explodes on Monday Night Football.

[Big Cat]

And now you're back to a Covid quarterback.

[Memes]

Back to a Covid court.

[Big Cat]

Justin Fields is Covid. That's. That's brutal. Way to put it.

[Memes]

Yeah, no, we've tried everything. I don't really know where you go from here. You just got to stockpile draft picks.

[Big Cat]

I have a.

[Memes]

Also, I don't know. I got fired from the team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you did. You got. You got relieved of your duties. Good news on the jets front. Mark Sanchez got released from the hospital.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then immediately booked in jail.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a tough, tough release. You walk out just knowing. Out of the. Out of the frying pan, into the fire.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought he should have been on Fox today. I would have liked to see him calling the game.

[Big Cat]

In his sling.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. In a sling.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got to face. He's got to face the public.

[Big Cat]

He's. I don't know what. I mean. He's got to be. He. Was he fired?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think they fired him yet. And I know that there's like a lawsuit against him and against Fox, so we'll see what happens with that. But I did watch the video. I watched the behind the scenes surveillance film.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Sanchez, the. The wind sprint part was too good to be true.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

He wasn't like getting down to three point stance, running, stopping, catching his breath, then sprinting back and timing himself. That's what I had hoped that. When they said that, I think that's what was implied. He. He ran up and down the alley a couple times to confront people.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think he was doing it to get in shape. Didn't have a stopwatch on him and.

[Big Cat]

He didn't yeah, he was wearing sneakers, so he was just casually walks towards street. Sanchez casually walks towards street. This is. He spent a lot of time in Indy that he didn't expect to spend.

[PFT Commenter]

Is this the. The number one thing that people are going to remember Sanchez for now?

[Big Cat]

I. That's where I was. I was making that argument. I can't remember when that like the butt fumble is probably number two. So mission accomplished. Because when we had him on, he did not like us joking about the button.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he did not. I'm glad that was done remotely. Yeah, I'd agree, knowing what we know.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah. So let's get to the regular slated games. Sorry. Memes. That was brutal. Especially having to wake up and watch that. That's the part where it's like. It's an extra. You're like, what the fuck? It's 8:30 in the morning and I got to watch us have negative 10 passing yards.

[Memes]

Yeah. I said this was it last week or the week before? Like, your job's on the line.

[Big Cat]

Just.

[Memes]

Just get rid of the ball. You're just a pussy.

[PFT Commenter]

One more thing. With the international games, did you guys know that. That countries have like, exclusive marketing rights to certain teams in the NFL?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

So back in 2021, the NFL divided up the league and said, okay, like Argentina, you have Miami Dolphins. Oh, you're a Dolphins.

[Big Cat]

So this is like the sister cities thing that they'll just be like all. You'll like go into an airport, like, oh, okay. They're the sister city of what?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, they just. They just assign teams to different countries. Sometimes they make sense, sometimes they don't. You know what, where the Bears are.

[Big Cat]

Well, I know. I think the Chicago sister city might be Warsaw. One of them. I think there's multiple sister cities.

[Hank]

Poland.

[PFT Commenter]

The Bears. The Bears.

[Big Cat]

That would be Poland. Warsaw.

[PFT Commenter]

The Bears got Spain.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And let's see, who else do we get?

[Big Cat]

A United Kingdom. They just pull it up right here.

[PFT Commenter]

There you go. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Nice. UK in the uk.

[PFT Commenter]

So those are two decent countries.

[Big Cat]

The Saints got France. That makes sense.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Dolphins get in Columbia. That makes sense.

[PFT Commenter]

Perfect sense right there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't know how the Chargers ended up with Greece. Eagles getting Ghana. That's a huge win.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, did Somalia get the Buccaneers and the Raiders?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, that would be awesome. See it right there.

[Hank]

Oh, we got.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, nice. Commander's got uae. The Emirates, dude.

[Big Cat]

I mean, the.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot of money.

[Big Cat]

Imagine being a dude in Nigeria and you're like, we got the Browns.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Big Cat]

That's fucking Bullshit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's so mean. Yeah. They should have based it on like which countries are like doing well. Give them the shitty teams. You get the Browns. Yeah, like Japan should get the Browns.

[PFT Commenter]

What's, what's. Oh, Austria got the Lions, Colts, Chiefs, Patriots, Seahawks, Bucks. Austria is living large right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Damn, they got a lot of them.

[PFT Commenter]

They hooked them up.

[Big Cat]

This is very funny.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't like giving stuff to Austria.

[Big Cat]

Like, I would love to have sat in this meeting like, yeah, we're just gonna hand. We're just gonna hand all these teams to different countries. It's not gonna work. We're gonna do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Switzerland.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Switzerland looked out too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Switzerland got it up. Uab. Your uae.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Uae, uab. I think they just fired Trent Doherty. They did. Yeah. Who could have seen that coming when he's looking at his phone getting like Hondo pieced by Tennessee. All right, next game, Chargers 29, Dolphins 27. This was very close to the Chargers dropping three straight, right? Yeah, it would have been three straight. They would have been three and three. They were 41 seconds away from that happening. And then Justin Herbert eluded a sack, made an incredible play, and lad McConkey made an even better play. And then afterwards Jim Harbaugh said, that play will be burning in my mind until they throw dirt over top of me. Because that was the game winner where Lab McConkey went for 42 yards down the sideline to set up the game winning field goal. It was that close. Though the Chargers were in control for the majority of this game. The Dolphins to actually as bad as he played at times. He had a nice fourth quarter drive to take the lead with a minute left. And The Chargers survive 4 and 2. They still have no offensive line, but 4 and 2 road win feels good. Especially when Justin Herbert and Lab McConaughey do something special like that. Because he was. Justin Herbert was sacked. He was basically had the guy all, all around him, was able to step through it. And Lab McConkey put on like one of the best jukes to seal the game.

[PFT Commenter]

He shrugged him off. And then, yeah, Harbaugh, when he said, like, I'm going to remember that play for the rest of my life until I'm dead.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

He also. I like this description that he had about Herbert. He said he's able to just mighty man it. Yeah, he just thinks that he's mighty man.

[Big Cat]

That kind of is what it looked like.

[PFT Commenter]

He turns into a superman sometimes and is able. He's able to just get out of these Crazy situations. This was a must win for the Chargers.

[Big Cat]

Must win.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a must win. And their, their running game showed up big time. The guy that was on the practice squad, Vidal.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

He had what, 100 yards? He had a nice game. But the good news for the Dolphins is they only gave up 140 yards rushing, which is much, much better than their standard 174 yards rushing.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But it was still 5.6 yards per carry. That's what, that's what teams do against.

[Big Cat]

They just run it down their face.

[PFT Commenter]

So it didn't get any worse. The YPC didn't get any worse against the, the Dolphins.

[Big Cat]

Poor teacher. Yeah, update ypc.

[PFT Commenter]

She's got it. She's got to let the people know about that.

[Big Cat]

Do you know, by the way, because we got to talk a lot about the Dolphins. Do you know that Justin Herbert actually. So this was. He's now in second place for game winning drive since 2020. Mahomes has 19. Justin Herbert has 18 since 2020. Game winning drives. He's tied for second place. Can you guess who is tied for second place with Justin Herbert?

[PFT Commenter]

With Justin Herbert.

[Big Cat]

Mahomes has 19. Justin herbert has 18. This is game winning drive since 2020.

[Hank]

Matthew Stafford?

[Big Cat]

No. Good guess, but no Tom Brady. No. Kirk Cousins.

[PFT Commenter]

No way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good for Curtis.

[Big Cat]

18 game winning drives since 2020.

[PFT Commenter]

That should be weighted on a special curve for the Chargers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because the Chargers, they're. They're so used to giving away heartbreaking games at the, at the very end.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

The fact that he's in second place like that should. They should count double.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's like having 36 game winning drives for the Dolphins.

[Big Cat]

I was preaching before the season that it wasn't like a hot, hot take. Although I had a little pushback. I said they were going to be my bad vibes team of the year. That has been so true. We had after. So after to threw his third and final pick, the stadium played Wangster to troll him. So he's getting trolled by his own.

[PFT Commenter]

The owner guys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, his own PA guy. Then he went to the post game and he said that we have guys showing up late to Players Only meetings.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, guys. Some guys not showing up at all.

[Big Cat]

Not showing up at all.

[PFT Commenter]

And then he said it starts with leadership.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that Tua is a leader?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that his way of being like it starts with me. But he didn't. He went third person on leadership.

[Big Cat]

I think maybe he's talking about Mike McDaniel now. I said this on Friday and it's even more true because I did some advanced statistical analysis on this. Coaches that don't wear proper pants. Capris are now 1 in 11 this season. I actually don't know if McVeigh's been wearing regular pants or not. But Mike McDaniel and Aaron Glenn continue to wear pants that do not go past their shins. Can you pull up the picture? Mike McDaniel standing at the press conference like, dude, you're one in five. Your quarterback is saying that we need leadership. You lose games in like just horrific fashion and you're standing there. If you go to my Twitter, I quote, tweeted it and you're standing there in pants for a 12 year old. I know this is a meatball take, but I firmly believe that you cannot lose. You cannot be one in five and be wearing pants like Mike McDaniel's pants every single press conference. Look at these.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, those.

[Big Cat]

That's ridiculous.

[PFT Commenter]

Those are absurd. And what you have to do is you have to change if you're Mike McDaniel. If you lose, you can't go to the podium in those.

[Big Cat]

You can't wear those on the sideline. Wear regular pants until you win a game.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't let people see that. If, if you lose and you're dressed like, you know, Cam Newton when he lost the game, change into something different, something more understated. If you're showing off the legs like that after a loss, it makes you so much sadder.

[Big Cat]

It's just again, meatball take. But I firmly believe it. You can't. You can win football games and then wear those pants. You can't be one in five and continue to come out in those pants. Yeah. Aaron Glenn as well. Do you agree, memes? You got to put on regular pants.

[Memes]

Yeah, you should wear a suit.

[Big Cat]

That would be cool.

[Max]

Memes only wears these pants.

[Big Cat]

Do you memes it's comfortable. But you wear socks up to those usually?

[Memes]

No, I pull them up.

[PFT Commenter]

Why is that?

[Memes]

I'm a loser though.

[Big Cat]

Maybe you need to start. Maybe the leadership starts with you.

[PFT Commenter]

Why is that more comfortable?

[Memes]

Have you tried it?

[Big Cat]

I've tried it. I look like shit. I look like shit in everything.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't think I've tried capris.

[Big Cat]

I tried to wear blue jeans last Thursday and it. Everyone commented, including my four year old daughter being like, why are you wearing those?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I've got jeans on today. I don't feel right.

[Big Cat]

I can't, I can't wear anything anymore. I just come in a Shower curtain.

[PFT Commenter]

Just give me elastic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. I'm standing by this take though. Put on some regular pants. Mike McDaniel. You might win a football game.

[PFT Commenter]

He looks sick in a pair of jinkos.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Imagine that. Like the super wide legs, some bell bottoms. You know that Mike McDaniel has the, the kangaroo pocket jinkos. At least $600 ones.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. @ least he took off the, the tags on the off whites. He doesn't. He's not wearing those still. Those looked ridiculous as well.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd like to see him bring back the earrings that he had when he was a ball boy for Denver. Yeah. Remember those? Yeah, that'd be a good look.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. They're. They're just a.

[Hank]

Bad vibes.

[Big Cat]

I mean they're. He's. He's gonna get fired, so.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, for sure. Back to.

[Big Cat]

I think he's a good. He's going to be a good offensive coordinator somewhere else.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Back to the players only meeting thing. If guys aren't showing up to their players only meetings, it's quite possible that they've just overdone it on the players only meetings.

[Big Cat]

That true?

[PFT Commenter]

Because they had one before the season started, I think.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And so very early. It sounds like they're scheduling more meetings on a weekly basis and then people just stop attending them. That's very relatable across any business in the world. It's like. Yeah, if you do too many meetings, people are going to check out on it. Maybe get better snacks at your meetings. How about that? Or do them. They should be emails.

[Big Cat]

Ice cream machine.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, ice cream machine. Or just get like an email thread going.

[Big Cat]

Or just. Yeah, just say free ice cream at the players only meeting and trap them.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that any players in the NFL have like a Slack channel. No. With their teammates?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

You think that's something that's ever existed?

[Zach]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

I bet. I bet you one, one weirdo coach has tried it.

[Big Cat]

No. Maybe I could maybe see a WhatsApp.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Marlins man keeps trying to get me to go to WhatsApp. I don't know why.

[PFT Commenter]

Encrypted.

[Big Cat]

Well, he. He. After Friday night's 15 inning game, he. He offered me exclusive rights to the video that he took. And then he, he took the, the game winning hit video from his seats.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

He offered me exclusive rights and then he said Darren Revell also wants it. So I was like, he can have it.

[PFT Commenter]

It might just be.

[Big Cat]

I think that I saw it on tv.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the second Marlins man's better. Have you seen the other one?

[Big Cat]

The Asian one?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I like. Yeah, I think he's better. I think he's better.

[Big Cat]

Do you think the Asian Marlins man is doing it to steal his style, or do you think Marlin's man hired him so that everyone just remembers to talk about Marlin's man? Although that's not what he's doing it for. He's not doing this for people to talk about him. He's doing it because he loves the game.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the other guy had the idea completely independently of Marlin's man.

[Big Cat]

But wouldn't you. Would you. Would you be shock? I told you r Marlins man was like, I can't make it to every game. I need a representation at every game.

[PFT Commenter]

I would think that the. The backup Marlins man that he would send out on the road would be probably not a male and would probably have, like, a low cut.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Marlin shirt.

[Big Cat]

I do like that. It's an Asian guy just sitting there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that guy. That guy's better. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. So he has been with him. So, yeah, maybe he did hire him. Is that the same spotted with him now?

[PFT Commenter]

Is that the same guy?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, on the left. So.

[PFT Commenter]

But are we sure that's the same guy that's in the other picture?

[Big Cat]

I'm assuming. I don't know. They're both blurry pictures, but how many people are willing to do this? Small.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's a small sample size. I would.

[PFT Commenter]

I would imagine he started a franchise fan movement. You can buy into it. Like, he makes you pay $500 for the kit.

[Big Cat]

The royalty. Oh, man. Yeah. I don't know where the Dolphins go from here.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think they need to spend. Do the opposite. Have no meetings whatsoever. Mike McDaniel would be the only coach that I could see saying, like, we're just not going to practice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's keep you guys fresh. Just show up on game day. Let's see what happens.

[Big Cat]

Playing the Dolphins and Browns next week. That. That's going to be a fun one. Yeah, that's going to be a real fun one. Okay, next up, Patriots 25, Saints 19. Hank?

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

How you feeling? Feel great. Drake may look great.

[Hank]

Drake may look great.

[Big Cat]

Three touchdowns. Booty back in Louisiana had two big scores.

[Hank]

Saints beat the refs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What was happening with the refs?

[Hank]

Something was happening with the refs.

[Big Cat]

Just.

[Hank]

There was an egregious pass interference called on Stefon Diggs that negated a touchdown that was called. They released like. The Patriots scored, celebrated, went to the sideline, and then the flag came in after they released like they put up the replay of the all 22. The ref didn't throw the flag until like after the touchdown was scored. And then when you see the replay, it was just not pass interference at all. And then on back to back plays, they called offensive pass interference on Diggs again on a catch down the sideline, which was not offensive pass interference. And then on the very next play, the ref was looking at Matt Collins like getting his arm dragged down on the sideline. And they didn't call that. So I don't know. There was something weird going on with the rest.

[Big Cat]

But you survived.

[PFT Commenter]

It sounded like they had it in for Stefan Diggs.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a very strange pass interference call. That thing. It was like. It was like five yards past the line of scrimmage. Both. They both made contact with each other and it's not like he was displaced or anything. And they called it late and it was late. Yeah. So, yeah, you guys did overcome a lot today. Clearly the better team. I thought that Spencer Rattler didn't look that bad though.

[Hank]

No. Yeah, they were moving the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Are you a little nervous that Drake May dipped below 70% completion percentage today?

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

Okay. He was at 69.8.

[Hank]

Sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Drake, everyone's going to have off games.

[Big Cat]

Drake May I. Drake May looks really good. He standing in the pocket, just throwing it downfield. He. There was that one play. I think it was negated from a penalty where he threw like an absolute diamond. Someone was holding onto his jersey. I love when that happens.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Elastic of the jersey.

[PFT Commenter]

It stretched out so far.

[Big Cat]

It's very funny. Yeah. Drake May joins Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, and Dan Marino is the only Cub age 23 or younger with 200 plus pass yards and 100 plus passer rating in five consecutive games.

[Hank]

It's exciting. It's exciting times.

[Big Cat]

He also. The Patriots have tied their win total from the last two seasons.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Through six weeks.

[Hank]

And our schedule. Oh, our schedule is just. It's so fun to look at.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, it is. It's wide open for you guys.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy.

[Hank]

Our schedule.

[Big Cat]

I think I saw a graphic.

[Hank]

There's like one team out of the bottom 10 in the NFL that we're not playing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No. If you guys. If the Patriots, spl, the Falcons and Bucks, there's a very good chance that they're nine and three. If you look at their schedule, their next six games, they're playing the Titans, the Browns, then they have the Falcons, Bucks, Jets, Bengals, that's that. That if you. If you win one of the Falcons Bucks. Yeah. 9 and 3 feels very doable.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a very good chance that The Patriots win 11 games this year, maybe 12. It's definitely possible.

[Hank]

They could maybe be the best team on this podcast.

[Big Cat]

He's back.

[PFT Commenter]

If they win those 12 games, though, what's going to happen is they'll go into the playoffs and then everybody will just be talking about their schedule and they'll say, we don't know if the Patriots are good.

[Hank]

That's fine. That's. I mean, I'm used to that. It's. Everyone hate us because they.

[Big Cat]

It would have been fun if they had lost the Bills last week and they. They just had. They went like 10 or 11 wins, never beating a team over.500. That would have been. Yeah. Discourse. They kind of robbed us of that.

[PFT Commenter]

That would have been very fun.

[Big Cat]

That's up. That Drake May robbed us of that narrative.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It would have been a very fun narrative.

[PFT Commenter]

What if Hank was right about the passing of the torch game? What if it would have. Drake May is just.

[Hank]

You're terrified of that.

[PFT Commenter]

What if it's just that? So, hey, I. I did find myself, like, actively rooting against Drake May for the first time today.

[Hank]

That's fucked up.

[PFT Commenter]

It's never happened.

[Hank]

I would never do that.

[PFT Commenter]

And, yeah. So I, I. There is a part of me that's like, Drake May might be legit. Legit. And it has less to do with my quarterback, but more to do with the fact that I don't think that America is ready to handle Patriots fans with a big ego again.

[Big Cat]

But it has a little do with your quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Tiny, tiny bit the value. Yeah. And when I say.

[Big Cat]

Can I tell you.

[PFT Commenter]

When I say Patriots fans, I mean, specifically Hank. America's not ready for Hank.

[Big Cat]

Can I. Can I tell you can't exist. I tell you how you don't even watch gft because I live this now.

[Hank]

I'm watching Karen, and you hate it.

[Big Cat]

I live this for the entirety of last year. It starts with just a little, like, I'm rooting against them silently. And then you're rooting against more, and then you just kind of give up. Like, I had to give up with Jaden.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was like, he's just good, and I'm not going to fight it. Like, there's nothing you can do.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So we're probably a few weeks away from you being like, yeah, Drake May is just really good.

[PFT Commenter]

But. But I've realized that when I was rooting against Drake May, it was. It was Purely because I don't want Hank to be successful. Yeah, we've had enough of that.

[Big Cat]

Look at him. Look at his smile.

[PFT Commenter]

We've had enough. America can't, we can't deal with it.

[Big Cat]

It's like Hank took like a quick four year nap and he wasn't rebuilding his heart.

[Hank]

Rebuilding is hard.

[PFT Commenter]

I know. No, no, you're rebuilding.

[Big Cat]

You chime in memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank was in a sports.

[Big Cat]

Talking to you right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, Hank knocked himself out. When your team comes out and loses.

[Hank]

And the expectation, it's like you gotta just stick with them and trust the process and, and you know there's light at the end of the tunnel and I'm, I'm living proof of that.

[PFT Commenter]

Your rebuilding process was you just checking out on sports? I don't understand.

[Hank]

No, you have good. I've been here every, every Sunday for the last four years in.

[Big Cat]

In body. But I'm not going to be body. You have in spirit.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe not like what am I gonna do?

[Hank]

We had a couple down years. I knew that. I knew that the winds were coming back and they did.

[PFT Commenter]

This is what irritates me is because we have coping mechanisms that we've used in the past to get through those bottom out years where like you sell yourself on a guy, you get all in on something. Then you watch everything that you said just explode in your face. I was. Because it's not good. You never, you never really experienced the pain of rebuild.

[Hank]

I did Mac Jones after the, the Buffalo Monday night game, I was like, we're gonna beat them in the playoffs. Then we got 30 pieced. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's crazy. Drake May is good. It is crazy.

[Hank]

Variable dog. Joshua Daniels dog. It's, it's fun. All the receivers, all the press conferences, like that's, that's what's exciting. When your team is good is like, you know, you know your team's good. When you're watching all the post game pressers, all the recap videos and the Patriots wide receivers just love Drake May. They just can't stop talking about his leadership and how everyone would die for him.

[Max]

Let's all remember that we're having this conversation after a six point win against the Saints.

[Hank]

Well, it was, it was basically 15 because of the refs and we covered like what we covered, we covered.

[Max]

It's the Saints.

[Hank]

Did you cover on Thursday?

[PFT Commenter]

There you go.

[Big Cat]

Hank, would you like to address. Who was the guy who pointed out we should shout him out. The hater sweater that you, that you apparently have.

[Hank]

It's Good to have.

[Big Cat]

So who was this good to have in my arsenal? Awl. Incredible eye. By this awl, he. He realized that Hank was wearing the exact same sweater. When the Phillies got eliminated. This was what. What year would they. 2023. This is from Karen8263. Shout out that guy. Incredible eye. Yeah, he said. Just noticed Hank is wearing the same sweater today he wore when the Phillies lost the NLCS in 2023 as well. I actually, I. I saw that tweet, and I initially got mad. I was like, we should have made Max sit on the couch on Thursday night. But he might have killed.

[PFT Commenter]

That would. That would have been dangerous. He need to be behind the glass like a gorilla. But yeah, Hank.

[Big Cat]

Gorilla. Yeah, gorilla shot a gorilla.

[PFT Commenter]

But Hank. Hank was. The sweater is also a very funny sweater to have as your hater sweater.

[Hank]

Yeah, well, I think, honestly, I. I was thinking about it because it. It 100 was probably the same situation. Like, it was kind of the nice, crisp fall night.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And that's like, all right, it's fall time. Let's bust out the sweater. Same time of year.

[Big Cat]

Will you be dawning it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. But. But you. You have to pick it wisely because you. If. If Max wins with you in the haters hater sweater, he kind of negates it.

[PFT Commenter]

I wasn't.

[Hank]

I was rooting for the Phillies. I wanted the Phillies to win, so I wasn't even against. It was an unintentional hater sweater.

[Big Cat]

But now it's just a full look at his smile. This is like two years have passed, and it's just we're. We're doing the same.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think that Hank should be allowed to put the hater sweater on after a bad loss. When he's on the couch, I think he's got to call his shot with that. You got to wear it that day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

By the way, the Saints. Can we talk about the Saints real quick? What do you say, Max?

[Max]

Do you think that person just watched, like, the sadness that I had on. On Thursday night and was like, I need more of this. Let me go back and find more sadness?

[Big Cat]

It's either that or your. Your sadness moments are incredible. Oh, they just lateral play. Your sadness moments are very memorable. It's sick and it's perverted. I mean, all of ours are. But yours especially. Especially with the overalls and the pigtails, it's something special. The awls, it's Christmas for the aws.

[Max]

You know that memes just goes, yeah, you're a relevant loser.

[Big Cat]

Just won a Super Bowl.

[Max]

I know, I know, I know, I know.

[Hank]

You're a relevant loser.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Like, he's an irrelevant loser.

[Memes]

Yeah. Oh, it's like both ends of the spectrum.

[Big Cat]

You got both ends of loser.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He just won a Super Bowl. I do want to talk about the Saints real quick. I. I got some. I'm gonna say something crazy. You ready? I kind of. I kind of am starting to like Spencer Rattler.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I was saying. He didn't play bad at all.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Spencer Rattler, he's got to be the best quarterback to start out. Owen 10 of all time. I don't think it's close.

[Big Cat]

Their car. Yeah, I think Derek Carr. I mean, Spencer Rattler could get there, but Derek Carr. Yeah, Derek Carr. But Spencer Rattler, like Chris Olave, had a bunch of drops. That fumble by Juwan Johnson when they were trying to drive to maybe win the game. Spencer Rattler didn't play bad. And he had a couple. Like, there was a. There was one pass he made that was a perfect pass that just was dropped in the end zone. Like, I. Spencer Rattler might be okay. I don't know. It's hard to make a case for a guy who's 1 in 11 all time as a starting quarterback. But I think I'm ready to make that case. I think I'm ready to say that I like Spencer Rattler.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's because we saw the other options that the Saints had at quarterback.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then we see. We see Spencer Rattler and we're like, yes, that. That guy looks like he knows how to play the position somewhat.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

And every time they. They have a rookie quarterback, you're like, I hope that they do something different with this guy. I hope they protect him. I hope that they move him along in a way that makes sense logically and. And put him in the best possible position to not get the soul sucked out of him.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Before he plays too many more games. And then they send Dylan Gabriel out there and he throws 50 times. Yeah, they make him throw the ball 50 times.

[Big Cat]

What was his exact stat line?

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see. I don't have it in front of me.

[Big Cat]

And he was trying to throw a lot of interceptions. There were so many. He was so many. Dropped. There's 52 pass attempts.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

For just 221 yards. It was. So I looked it up in terms of what. What happens with the Browns in every single. Oh, that was bad. It was bad for the over.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank. The fuck was that?

[Big Cat]

What was that?

[Hank]

Threw it away on fourth down.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no. It was a timeout. There you go. All right, here's the Browns games this year. You ready for this first half? Down by four, lost by one. This week one. Week two, down by seven, lost by 24. Week three, they're one win. They were down by three. They won by three. Week four, they were down six, lost by 24. Week five, they were up three. They lost by four. Today they were down six, lost by 14. The game starts. The Browns defense keeps them in the game, keeps it close. They have not been trailing by more than A touchdown in any of the games they played this year in the first half. And then the second half goes and the defense gets tired, and they just keep hammering them, hammering them, and they lose by a margin. And it happens every single week. And it's absolute torture to watch if you're a Browns fan, because you basically watch an entire half of football. You're like, wow, this team, this defense. Oh, my God. That was the funniest touch. Yes. Winning Jared Goff scored the first touchdown he had. First touchdown Jared Goff. And he caught it in passing.

[PFT Commenter]

What was it?

[Hank]

90 to 1.

[PFT Commenter]

90 to 1.

[Big Cat]

Ew.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. God damn it. We're in for a long fall.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

It's gonna be such a long.

[Big Cat]

He just can't stop winning, dude. Oh, my God. What'd you win? Oh, he almost dropped it.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

You didn't even see it.

[Hank]

150 to win 13k.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. Anyone who. Anyone who hates anyone on this podcast except Hank. It's in the wrong direction.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Come on.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy. Good for you, Hank. I'm happy for you.

[Hank]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you're not. But thank you.

[Big Cat]

No, I. What do I care? I didn't have it.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's in the hungry dog this week?

[Hank]

Hungry dog lost.

[Big Cat]

I don't bet. First touchdown scores. I just don't. I can't.

[Hank]

I did say it when we were.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, you did. No, I'm not mad at you at all. Like, that was. That's an unbelievable hit. The way it happened, too. That. The timeout and then that pass play. It sucks for. It's one more touchdown taken away from the Lions. Monroe, St. Brown, the awls that we keep fighting for.

[Hank]

But Hank keeps that too. And the over.

[Big Cat]

Hank keeps winning points bonanza.

[Hank]

I bet the ultimate over points bonanza.

[Big Cat]

Awls. You'll just have to.

[Hank]

I. I do every. Every Pride night football game. Both quarterbacks versus such.

[Big Cat]

Oh, there's a flag.

[Hank]

Stop.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no. Stop. This would be so funny. Oh, no. It's an illegal shift.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

Hank. Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

It's fourth down now.

[Big Cat]

Did you tweet?

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

Wow. That's bullshit. So late. That was so late.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, the shift on.

[Big Cat]

I hate that this is all being recorded right now. Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, what was there was illegal about the shift?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. And that flag was so late. Oh, now they're gonna screw this. Hank Memes. Max, you want to chime in?

[Max]

I just keep telling memes to zoom in closer on his face.

[Big Cat]

That was so perfect how this all. That was a nice ebb and flow of. Pardon my take right there, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

That means that it's still alive, though.

[Big Cat]

It is still alive, Hank. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They're gonna kick a field goal. Pat Mahomes might get it. Jared might get it.

[Big Cat]

Talk to us, Hank.

[Hank]

It was. It was a long shot.

[Big Cat]

It. You know, I mean, that was so late. That was a six.

[PFT Commenter]

No, wait, wait.

[Big Cat]

They're going for it.

[PFT Commenter]

They're not kicking a field goal.

[Big Cat]

What if they just run the same.

[PFT Commenter]

This is why I need to stop betting any Lions game for four field goals.

[Hank]

Also, the TVs in the studio.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man. We got to keep. This is people. We were like, holy, what just happened in the last. Imagine if he does it now.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, his. Hank's reaction was. I've never seen him react like that to a play.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, that was $150 to win a 13k. Insane.

[PFT Commenter]

Even the Derek Watt TJ Watt bet.

[Big Cat]

That's insane. And, you know, that was like a perfect play they had drawn up. Oh, there's another flag.

[PFT Commenter]

They're going to kick now. They got to kick now.

[Big Cat]

They have to kick.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right. Steelers, Browns. We're Talking about Steelers 23, Browns 9. The. The Browns just do the same thing every single time, and it's brutal. And I, I. Dylan Gabriel, I don't want to trash him because it's his second start. I don't know if he's the guy. I'll say. Is that fair?

[PFT Commenter]

I would say it's impossible to know if he's.

[Big Cat]

It's impossible to know, but I haven't seen any guy stuff the lefty.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. When lefties do bad things, it looks worse.

[Big Cat]

And Brian Flores put in my head that he's 2.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But 52 attempts. Nobody was going to be successful with this. No, nobody was. And. And the defense for the Browns, yeah, they played good. They didn't get any sacks though, today, which is tough because that's. That's really how they can stay in these types of games and possibly win them is if they're able to. To get to the quarterback. They didn't do that at all today. Aaron Rodgers looked pretty good. He looked really good today.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That throw to DK on a nice age. And I have throw to Connor Hayward for the touchdown. Rogers off platform. Like he looked good.

[PFT Commenter]

The Steelers should just pass the ball to Darnell Washington every down.

[Big Cat]

He's. Dude, I don't care if it's the ball in open space. It's scary.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't care that he's slow. No one's ever boxed out a glacier before, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like he can just go out there, throw the ball in the air, he'll catch it and then he'll take two guys with him and get an extra three to five yards afterwards.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy watching him run down the.

[PFT Commenter]

Field with the ball like he is the biggest football player that I've ever seen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And. And he can catch.

[Big Cat]

And he can catch most of the time. Most of the time.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And he's a devastating bl.

[Big Cat]

I. I feel hands are so big.

[PFT Commenter]

When they have him on the field. It's like, yeah, he will block the out of you. And then when he's not blocking, he's going to be open because he's always open because no one's big enough to guard.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

They can just get him the ball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I. The Steelers might be the team that I think they're good, but I don't fully know yet. We'll see when they start playing maybe some other elite teams. But what the Steelers do have. Aaron Rodgers is their best quarterback they've had since Big Ben got injured. And they have a stranglehold on the AFC north right now. They are 4 and 1 and the Bengals, who are now starting Joe Flacco are the second place team at 2 and 4. Browns, Ravens 1 and 5. That's a significant lead early in the season. So it feels like it's their division to lose. Would you not agree?

[PFT Commenter]

I would agree with that. I feel like they are thinking about the Ravens. I'm not saying the Ravens are going to do it and come all the way back, but if you were to ask a Pittsburgh Steelers fan like, hey, are you confident in your chances to win the division? They'll say, yeah, yeah, we're confident. But. But the Ravens.

[Big Cat]

Well, they haven't yet. Yeah. If the Ravens beat him twice, that's. You have it right there.

[PFT Commenter]

Ravens are still out there. But yeah, I think. I think the Steelers are in a good spot. They've got competent quarterback play. They've got a like true number one receiver and they've got a solid defense.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

A good enough come back around.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They should have had. You're right. They should have had way more interest. They had zero interceptions today.

[Big Cat]

It just kept on like they would.

[PFT Commenter]

Have had multiple times. Two or three at least.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And I feel bad for the Browns. I don't. It's just. It's torn. It's now 11 straight games. They have not scored more than 17 points. They just cannot score. And it's been like this for way too long. And I don't know, like, I just, I'm not saying anything new. It's just like it's, It's a special type of torture to not even have. You know exactly what's going to happen. They're not going to score 17 points. They're going to be in the game in the first half. They're going to lose the game by maybe double digits.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Is it sure. Time?

[Big Cat]

Maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like you, you don't really have anything to lose if you're the Browns.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Why not try out everyone. Yeah. Bring back to Sean, I guess you.

[PFT Commenter]

Could say, best case scenario, Shador goes out there and he plays pretty good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then you could trade him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like you have nothing to lose. You're not going to make the playoffs, you're not going to win probably more than eight games this year at the very, at the very very. Because Stefanski is a good coach. I still kind of believe in him.

[Big Cat]

But they're, they're not winning eight games. They could play 25 games. They're not winning eight games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You're not a good team.

[Hank]

But.

[PFT Commenter]

Just, Just roll the dice on Shador.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Again, nothing to lose. Best case scenario, it doesn't work out. Then you send Gabriel back out there. You continue to not win games. You get a better draft pick. Put your door out there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Miles Garrett, do you think he regrets the money at all?

[PFT Commenter]

I think during the games, yes.

[Big Cat]

So he was asked after the game about what goes through his mind when he watches the Steelers pass rushers get after the QB with a two score lead. He replied, must be nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That feels like someone who might be regretting it. During the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, during the game. I'd say like on game day, he regrets it. When he gets home, when he gets into his house and he drives in.

[Big Cat]

His very fast car and his robot.

[PFT Commenter]

Butler is like, let me get your. Your jacket for you, Miles.

[Big Cat]

He's good.

[PFT Commenter]

And then he's got another Robo that that like sets up his Halloween decorations for him. He's like, this is pretty good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This is. I'm. I'm living. Okay. But yeah. So I have nothing else on the Browns and the Steelers. Aaron Rodgers, like, he's showing that he might, he might have some vintage Aaron Rodgers left in him. And with that defense, it could be. I mean, they should win the North. They should win the North.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that if, if you took like the best players on the jets and the Best players on the Browns and you made a 53 man roster out of those 53 guys. The, the Brett's. Yeah, I like the, the Neveland. Yeah, the Neveland Brett.

[Big Cat]

No, the new Cleveland Brett.

[PFT Commenter]

New Cleveland Breads. Do you think that they could go 500? Who starts at quarterback?

[Big Cat]

Is the quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

Is the obvious part. Yeah, that's the obvious question. Maybe. DeSean. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I'll say Me, I say Stefanski coaching.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

The new Cleveland Brett's. I think they could, I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like the defense would be good memes because it's all.

[Memes]

Defense would be nasty.

[PFT Commenter]

It's all.

[Big Cat]

The Browns would be nasty and they would get Garrett Wilson on offense, which would be really nice.

[PFT Commenter]

But who's going to throw him the ball?

[Big Cat]

Who's going to throw him the ball?

[PFT Commenter]

If I, if I read this list of names to you, who would you rather have thrown the ball? Justin Fields. Dylan Gabriel. Shador Sanders. To Rod Taylor.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

I think to Rod.

[Big Cat]

I think to Rod. I think to Rod can get him to nine wins. The new Cleveland Brett's with Rod Taylor's starting quarterback could get nine wins.

[Memes]

I'm in.

[Big Cat]

I'm in.

[PFT Commenter]

Who starts from the jets offensive line?

[Memes]

Membu.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Memes]

I probably put Joe Tippman at center. I don't know. The Brown center is.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we can find it.

[PFT Commenter]

We could, we could make this work.

[Big Cat]

You'd have depth. You'd have crazy depth. You could actually just rotate offensive line.

[PFT Commenter]

Our defensive line, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have a nasty rotation on defense.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Well, we were talking about the, the Ravens. Let's talk about them. Rams 17. Ravens 3. This was an ugly, ugly first half game where it was three. Three at half. The Ravens actually were in it. They had a goal line situation where they decided, and I know we're of the standpoint that Derek Henry's not good in short yardage situations, but, but they went tush push twice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. It didn't work with Mark Andrews.

[Big Cat]

You shouldn't do the tush push if you don't know how to do the tush push.

[PFT Commenter]

It's with Mark Andrews. They've done it before and it's, it's worked before, but it didn't really even come close to working this time.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

And, and if you're John Harbaugh, I, I, I never thought that his job was in jeopardy because you can lose when you're, when you're banged up and you've got that as the excuse.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But you can't do shithead stuff in these losses.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

And this qualifies as a shithead stuff.

[Big Cat]

I would agree.

[PFT Commenter]

Like doing it twice, running. Running the same play twice in a row that is very obviously a shithead play. Is the most shithead you can be.

[Big Cat]

I would also say that starting Cooper Rush instead of Tyler Huntley is a shithead play.

[PFT Commenter]

I would agree with that.

[Big Cat]

I know Tyler Huntley. Did he just join the team this week or was he already on the team? I think he was on the practice squad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think he's been around either way. Tyler Huntley got in and he could move the ball a little bit. Cooper Rush cannot. And Derek Henry, actually, he maybe listens to the podcast because he shut up the haters. He had more yards in the first quarter than he's had in any of his final, like, totals and games. Weeks two through five, he had 50 in the first quarter, ended with 122. So he's okay. And Lamar is going to be back after the buy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So they. The Ravens are going to dominate the bye week. I came at a great time.

[Big Cat]

I was looking at it. I. This might be crazy because obviously their defense is also banged up and their defense is really, really bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, pretty good showing from them today.

[Big Cat]

I think the Ravens could be sitting at six and six, even though they're one in five right now. I think they could be sitting at six and six.

[PFT Commenter]

So four teams in NFL history made the playoffs after going one and five.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Last was the 2020 Washington Football Team. So it hasn't been done in a little bit, but this Ravens team, Xavier worthy.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a check bang.

[Hank]

All right.

[Max]

Come on, Ross.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's go, boys.

[Big Cat]

Let's go.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's possible.

[Big Cat]

I mapped it out for. I mapped it out for Ravens fans, if you're listening. So I think they can go six and six. Unfortunately, they're. The Bears are. My Bears are playing them after the bye week. And I've already circled this as a problem because Lamar is going to come back with big time revenge of just like, we suck. Everyone thinks I suck. I'm back. So they play the Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets, Bengals. That. That to me looks like at minimum five and one with a healthy Lamar. Would you guys agree?

[PFT Commenter]

At minimum five and one.

[Big Cat]

I think with a healthy Lamar in like a do or die desperation. Lamar, like, we gotta win. We have to win right now.

[PFT Commenter]

I've seen the Ravens play some pretty bad football, okay.

[Big Cat]

But they're better than the Dolphins. They're better than the Browns. They're Better than the Jets, Bengals, they're better than the Bears. And the Vikings would be the toss up.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the story might be, yes, obviously Lamar coming back, but this might be the week that the defense somehow flips a switch.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

They do something different.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right, so. So follow me along. So I'm saying they're going to go five and one in that stretch. That's six and six.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Yep. They then finish the season playing the Steelers twice. They have Steelers, Bengals, Patriots, Packers, Steelers. If they could find a way to go three and two in that stretch, that's a nine win team that might get you in in the AFC.

[PFT Commenter]

And the Patriots, they're going to have the one seed locked up by then.

[Big Cat]

In week 16 and.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So they're not going to have anything to play for.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So that's a win.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, I, I, like, I almost want to. I don't think they're going to go anywhere in the playoffs, but I almost want to bet them to make it the playoffs. Can we look at DraftKings and see what their odds are to make the playoffs? I've mapped it out. Now that I've mapped it all out, I'm probably going to be wildly wrong and Lamar will probably just never come back and this will all look really stupid.

[PFT Commenter]

My guess is they're probably like plus 150.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Something ridiculous.

[PFT Commenter]

Something stupid. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

As the AFC kind of falls off. What is so on the DraftKings sports, we're looking up to make the playoffs for the Baltimore Ravens. Either way, I, I've, I've mapped it out. I think the Ravens are still going to be heard from at some point. There's going to be a moment in when, when it leads shows being like, watch out for the Ravens. Like, don't look now.

[Max]

I don't think it's. It's on there right now.

[Big Cat]

Okay, what is it? To win the. They have it to win the AFC North.

[Max]

They also don't. That's why I assume it's not in the playoffs either.

[Big Cat]

The Rams are good. They kind of fucked around today. They kind of played with their food. Their defense is really good, though. I know it's Cooper Rush, but they also had, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Puka Nakua being out of the game for a while, definitely an impact.

[Big Cat]

And the Rams, like, I was looking at it, I was like, all right, they beat up Cooper Rush. Who cares? Byron Young and Jared Verse were everywhere all day. But they also lost to a backup last week. So it's good that they righted it. They lost The Mac Jones last week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

They came back and they beat Cooper Rush got the win on the. On the East Coast. I told you guys on Friday, Sean McVeigh doesn't lose in these games as favorite on the road. He always wins. He always, most of the time covers. And yeah, the Rams are good.

[PFT Commenter]

So back to. Back to that double tush push.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That they ran. They asked Harbaugh about that after the game. Tell me where this ranks in terms of your like coach speak flowchart.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

He's. They asked him who made those calls and did you have input into making those play calls? He said those are planned calls. Those are calls that get made.

[Big Cat]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

He went like that's high.

[PFT Commenter]

He went passive voice on it. Those are calls that get made.

[Big Cat]

That's high. It's basically being like we don't know where those. God makes those calls.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Like AI.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They just come in and we're not going to say who. They just happen.

[PFT Commenter]

That was always going to happen. There was nothing we could do about it. Our hands are tied.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Coaches, did anyone ask him specifically about starting Tyler Huntley? Because Cooper Rush, since putting on a Ravens uniform, has one touchdown and seven interceptions. How do you have a team as talented as the Ravens? And again, they're very banged up on defense. They've. They were losing games with Lamar as well. But I don't understand how you have a team as talent as the Ravens and have that much of a fall off to the backup quarterback where his seven interceptions in one touchdown.

[PFT Commenter]

So Harbaugh said that the plan was always to play both Cooper Rush and Tyler Huntley.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

In this game, the dual headed quarterback.

[Big Cat]

They're averaging six and a half points per game without Lamar Jackson this season. That's not good.

[PFT Commenter]

No, they've been. They've been terrible.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they've been really bad.

[PFT Commenter]

But credit to their defense for not playing as poorly as they have.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like that. I feel like going into this bye week they can get a little bit healthy.

[Big Cat]

They.

[PFT Commenter]

They might be. I know it's almost cliche already to say like the Ravens can still do it, but I actually believe it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

With these Ravens.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I think six and six mark this down. Six and six.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, well go. So I know going into this week the Ravens were still the favorites to win the division. They can't be anymore at one. They can't be.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They absolutely cannot be. Although again, they play the Steelers twice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And they still have the Browns one more time. And the Bengals. The Bengals is what makes it all the Bengals having no Joe Burrow is what makes it all, like, attainable.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, you get free. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Pasco collect $200.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

When you play them.

[Big Cat]

Right. Okay. Seahawks 20, Jaguars 12. A rare moment of for me where I feel like I knew ball and I, I was like, I think we're too high on the Jaguars. And the Seahawks came in and, and took care of business. It was also one of those games we've been talking about. The Jaguars, they are a good team, maybe a little too high because, you know, they just had the biggest win, regular season win in franchise history, possibly on Monday night against the Chiefs. And the, the turnover regression, they did not turn the ball over. They did not get a takeaway in this game after having so many in the first five weeks. Sam Darnold played well. Seahawks defense was awesome. They were blitzing the fuck out of Trevor Lawrence had him. I think they sacked him seven times. So, yeah, I, I, I kind of expected this game. But the Seahawks are a good team. The Jaguars are a good team. Seahawks obviously better today.

[PFT Commenter]

There was also a very funny moment when Trevor Lawrence, the cameras caught him on the sideline. He was like bent over with all of there, like covering his entire face. I think he learned from last week and was having a pick. Yeah, I think he was like, we're going to dig deep and the cameras won't see me when I'm doing this. But when you look at the Seahawks offense, it's, it's like a very strange offense because they are like Boomer bust drive to drive.

[Big Cat]

And they're also. Exactly, I think they have one, I think they have exactly one more run attempt than pass attempt this year. Yeah, they try to go exactly 50.

[PFT Commenter]

50 and they, they either just go three and out or they have a long touchdown drive. Yeah, that's kind of what they do. They don't, they don't like, mess around too much in between because Darnold throws deep. If you watch this offense like they are, they're always throwing it deep to JSN. I think like 40% of the targets on the entire team to JSN. And then Darnold leads the league in yards per attempt, too.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

So he's just, they're, they're kind of a fun offense if you time their drives right. If you're like watching multiple games at a time and you catch them at the start of a good drive, you would think that they're the most fun offensive.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, if you catch them at the start of a bad drive, where they give the ball to Charbonnet twice, and he gets like, two yards per carry, and then they end up throwing incomplete and punting. Then you're like, this team sucks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It really is, like, back and forth with them.

[Big Cat]

They had a. They had that long touchdown to JSN, and they also, I think, were like 1 for 12 on third downs today.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, they. They go three and out a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. JSN, by the way, he needs to be. Where is he top five right now? I mean, he's insane. The year he's having. Just the year he's having, he's 696 yards through six games every single week. He's just dominating. He's got four. Four games over 100 yards. It's in the end, like, one of the other ones was 96 yards in a touchdown. He's so, so good.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, then that. No, the other one was when he had 79 yards.

[Big Cat]

That was. Yeah, that was his worst game. His worst game was four catches, 79.

[PFT Commenter]

79 yards.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And that was.

[Big Cat]

That was the Arizona game.

[PFT Commenter]

A tough time to have it. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, he's awesome. You've said it. Pft. And I looked into it. The Seahawks at home just aren't good anymore. Did you know that Mike McDonald, since he's become the Seahawks head coach, he is ten and one on the road?

[PFT Commenter]

I did not know that.

[Big Cat]

He's four and eight at home. He's ten and one on the road.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

They got to figure out, like, they need to have him staying at a weird hotel or something when they're home.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Do something to make him think he's playing a road game. Because 10 and one at home and four or 10 and one on the road and four needed home for the Seattle Seahawks is insane.

[PFT Commenter]

They got team buses that pick everybody up. Like, go to their houses.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, it's a school bus stop. Get on the bus, drive to the game together.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Stay in a motel.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Make them stay in the visit. Change the locker rooms. Make them stay in the visiting locker room in Seattle.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What's something going on with that?

[Big Cat]

I. It's very weird. I was shocked when I saw that stat.

[PFT Commenter]

Did they stop pumping in crowd noise? Maybe that might be it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Maybe they're too focused on the Mariners.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Also possibility.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah, the Jags were kind of due for a come down to earth moment, I think.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This was the. This was it. It was. And they didn't get. And again, they didn't take the ball away, which they've been living on. And you had, like, some bad penalties, too. I feel like they had a couple. I feel like they had a good punt return. They also had a. I think they had a touchdown, a Brian Thomas touchdown that was taken back from a Travis Hunter penalty.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Travis Hunter.

[Big Cat]

So they had some bad penalties. That definitely did them in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. I still think that they're going to be. Jaguars will be right in the mix.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Panthers 30, Cowboys 27. We are now in a world where Meow Mix has not been a podcast for two weeks and the Carolina Panthers are two.

[Memes]

And.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Is this. They have to stay retired.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't come back in a winning streak.

[Big Cat]

No, you cannot.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't do it. And not the way that. That Rico Dowdle's playing.

[Big Cat]

Rico Dowdle.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a seat belt game. It was a buckle. It was a buckle up game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So he said that. But before the game, he said, it's going to be a very physical game. I take pride in that. Buckle your chin strap up. I will be coming.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Rico said that. I will be coming.

[PFT Commenter]

And he came and he came everywhere and then. But Jerry Jones talked about before the game and he said, I know we're gonna have to buckle up. And our whole team is shaking. We're shaking in fear of that man. Of buckling up, buckling up. And. But he said, like, to make fun of him. Like, oh, yeah. Oh, we're so scared of Rico Daddle.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Rico Daddle went out there and he had 239 total yards. Franchise record.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Christian McCaffrey had 237 yards twice, but Dowdle beat it by two. And it's also the highest two game total in franchise history.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Rico Daddle is on fire right now.

[Big Cat]

I think I saw it. It was like his. The record for yards from scrimmage for the Panthers are Rico Dowdle, 1. Christian McCaffrey, 2 Christian McCaffrey, 3. Rico Dotto, 4. Yeah, it also. First undrafted player since 1970 with back to back 200 plus yards from scrimmage. And he also has the most yards from scrimmage against a former team in history.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very good.

[Big Cat]

He backed it up. He had. He talked his shit. He backed it up.

[PFT Commenter]

After the game, he said they wasn't buckled up.

[Big Cat]

They were. They weren't.

[PFT Commenter]

They were not buckled.

[Big Cat]

They were not ready for Rico Dowdle.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Panthers are undefeated at home. Speaking of teams that are good and bad at home, the Panthers Just took the Seahawks magic. Yeah, they did, because they look completely different at home. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And the Panthers run defense was awesome. They completely shut down Javante Williams. George Pickens has made himself a lot of money in CD Lamb's absence. He had nine catches for 168 yards and a touchdown. I love when he. We talk a lot about George Pickens, but when he has the ball running down the sideline and he knows about to get tackled and he does, like, he almost belly flops on a defender. Yeah. We just get. He's like, I'm just gonna get airborne.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he jumped the guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then that's very dangerous when Pickens does that early in a game because you know he's going to try to do it again. Yeah. And then he tried to do again and got pretty much hit in the nut sack and was like, okay, I shouldn't do that anymore. But yeah, he, he switches hands with the ball so often when he's running, it's like every other step. It's like he's dribbling.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, I don't want to travel. And then he. He'll like palm it out, hold it to the side, like almost taunt a defender to go for the ball. And then that makes the defender miss him because they're going for the ball. He's. He's a psychopath out there. And I love watching him play. He's.

[Big Cat]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

If I were George Pickens, I would think about going back to the Cowboys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because, like, him and Dak have a good thing going on. And the Cowboys offense is great. Obviously the exception being the Russian game this week, but like, the Cowboys offense is very, very good.

[Big Cat]

Well, that was where I was going with this game is. It's. You can't blame Dak in the offense when their defense is such ass. And it is ass. Ran right through them every single time he looked up. They were just getting chunk gains right in the Cowboys face. But this was a very winnable game for the Cowboys. They had, they had it inside the 10 yard line, had to settle for a field goal, and then with eight minutes left, they got the ball around midfield and went 3 and out and lost 8 yards. Never got the ball back. Yeah. So, like, the defense sucks. The offense needed to make a couple more plays to win this game and they were right there. Like they, they had the chance to make those plays and they couldn't make those plays and that's why they lost.

[PFT Commenter]

So they, they punted. The Panthers got the ball back with 6 minutes, 7 seconds left in the game, and they just went downfield and kneeled out, I think the last two snaps.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To kick a field goal and win it. So they went at 30. 27. 27. 27. Six minutes left. Cowboys didn't touch the ball from that point on. And Bryce Young, when his team was behind in this game when the Panthers were trailing, Bryce Young had a perfect passer rating.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

125 yards and three touchdowns. When they were losing.

[Memes]

Losing.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty good. Pretty good.

[Big Cat]

Starting to look a little good.

[PFT Commenter]

And as depressing as Bryce Young looks when he's not playing well, he. Look, he's got that much joy when he's winning. He's like the happiest guy on earth.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I'm happy for the Panthers. The Panthers are 3 and 3.

[PFT Commenter]

How about that?

[Big Cat]

The Panthers are 3 and 3. This goes more to my saying, Hank, you. You scoffed at me. There's not. There aren't bad teams in the NFC like the NFC does not have. They have not great teams.

[PFT Commenter]

They have.

[Big Cat]

They have some bad, badish teams, but everyone's. I mean, the Saints are the worst team and they're frisky.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's a better conference for sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It just feels like, like top to bottom, I mean, the Panthers are three and three and you would. You would put them in the. Their bad category. It's a tough, tough conference. Who do the Panthers have coming up?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think this week, Hank, would classify the Saints as being a bad team, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, the Panthers have. The Panthers have the jets next week.

[Max]

Ooh.

[Big Cat]

So The Panthers go above.500.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That's an interesting game.

[Memes]

Sunk on the road.

[Big Cat]

They stink.

[PFT Commenter]

They stink on the road and they're going into MetLife.

[Memes]

But the jets suck.

[PFT Commenter]

This is going to be a must win for the Jets.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes. I mean, I know you want to lose games and you want to get a better draft pick. This is a game that you have to win.

[Memes]

This game, their schedule, it is easier as it goes on. So it's like Panthers and they play the Bengals. So I think. I think every wit, every game's a must win going forward.

[PFT Commenter]

Whose lines anyway?

[Memes]

Panthers.

[Big Cat]

Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

@Jets.

[Big Cat]

DraftKings sportsbook. It might be Panthers -2 and a half.

[Hank]

Panthers -1 and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I think it might be.

[Hank]

Pick them up on the DraftKings sports book.

[Big Cat]

Oh, the jets are favored.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow. That's gonna change.

[Big Cat]

Why that. That my computer model totally disagrees in my head.

[PFT Commenter]

Why. Why are they.

[Big Cat]

The jets are favored. Memes.

[Max]

I think jets will win.

[Big Cat]

I've been saying that for, like, four weeks straight, but I think this is the one way. I think. You know what? Yeah, this is the one.

[Max]

This is the one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Memes. You're gonna win this game. Game.

[Max]

You're gonna win this game.

[Big Cat]

You're gonna win this game. Memes.

[Hank]

Look at.

[Max]

Look at it.

[Big Cat]

Look. Look us in the eyes. You're gonna win this game.

[Max]

Win this game.

[Memes]

I don't think so.

[PFT Commenter]

It's the Panthers, dude.

[Memes]

On the road.

[Max]

Panthers on the road.

[Big Cat]

It's Panthers on the road.

[Max]

Panthers on the road.

[Memes]

Meow Mix.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Meow Mix. Yeah. Well, they might if they do a podcast. We have to unload on the Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's a fact.

[PFT Commenter]

Their bet did not hit, unfortunately.

[Big Cat]

We'll try again next week.

[PFT Commenter]

They need ted to get 70. He got two touchdowns. Yeah, he got two, but, yeah, it didn't get 70.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Last early game, Colts 31, Cardinals 27. The Colts are just fucking good. I don't know what else. I feel like people are waiting for the shoe to drop. The Colts are 5 and 1. The Colts have scored 30 plus in four of those five victories. They have 194 points through six weeks. That's most by any indie team ever. Peyton Manning played on some really good offenses. Daniel Jones has 1500 yards, 12 total TDs. Tyler Warren has 370 yards, three TDs. Jonathan Taylor has 600 yards, eight total TDs. Their offense is awesome. The Colts are good. They just need to stop having warmups where everyone gets hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They had two guys get knocked out in warmups.

[Big Cat]

So bizarre.

[PFT Commenter]

They had a concussion for Travarius Ward, which was. He had a tight end.

[Big Cat]

Brutal.

[PFT Commenter]

A tight end ran into him when he was back there like. Like fielding passes or. So I. I don't know what the drill was exactly, but for the tight end at least.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

But Charvarius was doing like DB drills. And then a tight end sprints off the sideline for some reason and just targets him. Just goes like, head to head, knocks him out for the game. And then obviously, Anthony Richardson was. He. He got his orbital bone broken doing a band exercise in pre games, so, yeah, he wasn't going to play today either. I feel bad for Anthony.

[Big Cat]

I do, too. That's brutal.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel bad for.

[Big Cat]

He basically got a rubber band snapped in his eye. Yeah, that's a terrible, terrible injury.

[PFT Commenter]

It's got to be a painful, painful injury.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This is why you should never work out.

[Big Cat]

Never. Especially with bands.

[PFT Commenter]

Might get hurt.

[Big Cat]

That's like the fad now. It's like I don't lift. I do bands. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, but on the Cardinals side of it, did you know the Cardinals, they've lost four games by a total of nine points.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because remember, they were the first team ever to get walked off field goal three weeks in a row.

[PFT Commenter]

Three weeks in a row. And so, yeah, they've lost. It's probably total of this is. It's crazy. I feel so. I feel bad for the Cardinals or at least for their fans still, but it just seems like this is a dead man walking situation for games.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because you could make the argument if you lose close games, you can make the argument sometimes we're not that far away, we're close. But if you keep losing close games, that's usually a sign of bad coaching.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And if you look at the teams that had the worst, like the, the most like one score losses last year, you're looking at guys like Matt Eber flu. You're looking at. I think the Jaguars had a lot of one score losses last year. The Saints had some one score losses, a bunch of them. That's usually a sign that that guy is probably not going to stick around very long. And then on the flip side, if your team consistently wins one score game, then you talk about guys like Mike Tomlin Sirianni and Dan Campbell and Andy Reid. So I think that things are not going in a good direction for Gannon, especially the fact that like his owner, find him a hundred thousand dollars.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Looks bad in front of the team. Probably also you should have done it. But having the owner be like, hey guys, I got your back. I'm gonna find your head coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Also probably not great like you, you had a chance. Jacoby Brissette, we've talked about him a million times. We like watching him play.

[PFT Commenter]

He's.

[Big Cat]

You always have a chance. On his first start, I feel like, yeah, that's when he's. He's the best version of Jacoby Brissette. Then it just slowly goes down. He had 320 yards and two touchdowns. It's been 34 games, almost three years since Kyler Murray has had 300 over 320 yards and two touchdowns.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That, that would be a very depressing, good game for Cardinals fans.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To be like, yep, this is, this is what this team can look like. Because the Colts are a good team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And for them to compete with Jacoby Brissette, you're like, wait a second, that looked like football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. By the way, the open roof shot they did was so sick.

[PFT Commenter]

That was, I think they were honoring.

[Big Cat]

I think they were like doing something special for Jim Merce today.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you talking about the one where they zoomed in real? Yeah, they did that when the, the tight end on the Cardinals got hurt. Yeah, I think they were trying to.

[Big Cat]

Just get us off, but they're like.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at this sweet ass stadium. And for a second I was like, that's all, that's awesome.

[Big Cat]

I immediately forgot about the injury and was like, oh, wow, that's so cool.

[PFT Commenter]

And I don't know what configuration they had it in today, but it reminded me of that game that the Colts had against the Chiefs where Sky Moore got blinded by the sun.

[Hank]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And fucked it up.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

That sun is a weapon in Indy.

[Big Cat]

Big time if you can. Shadows are tough.

[PFT Commenter]

If you can time it out right. That sun is going right into your face on the field.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The Colts haven't been 5 and 1 since 2009, so Super bowl year. They're good, man. They're good. I, again, I think people are just waiting for it to not work, but I, I, I think they're just really good. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What's, what's Daniel Jones contract right now?

[Big Cat]

I think he got 40 million. I want to say. No, no, no, I was, that was.

[PFT Commenter]

No, cuz he had to. Oh, he did?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think so. I, I, like I was looking up stuff before and I forgot that that was, I didn't mean to do that. Thankfully the guys in the booth are not listening right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that's good because Memes would take that personally. Yeah, he would take, definitely get mad at me for that. But they're not listening. So no one, literally no one. We're just talking to ourselves right now. I'm looking at Hank, I'm looking at Pod. Literally no one's literally what this podcast is. We're just having, we're just having a conversation. Does anyone want to take good.

[Max]

Com?

[Big Cat]

Anyone want to take a guess what I just said?

[Hank]

He, Daniel Jones got paid 40 million. Which he did not.

[Big Cat]

Who did?

[Max]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

No, you know, I, I, I thought he got paid 40 million. Then I remembered that I think that's what Justin Fields is getting paid.

[PFT Commenter]

14 million. 14 million he's going to make.

[Hank]

Yeah. So Justin fields is a 22 million dollar dead cap.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That's a lot.

[Memes]

That's, that's a pre June one cut.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so you just cut him before June 1st?

[Memes]

No, I keep him as backup.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so you're going to keep that cap a backup.

[PFT Commenter]

What qb? Why not to Rod?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, to Rod's probably a better backup.

[Memes]

Yeah. But two year plan. Dead cap. You can't have dead cap.

[Big Cat]

You know that because you did that one year of Madden.

[Memes]

One year Madden. And I think there's.

[PFT Commenter]

But you didn't even get a chance to get into the dead cat.

[Memes]

I think between Aaron Rodgers and Justin fields, it's like $60 million worth of dead cap.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a lot of dead cap.

[Big Cat]

That's a lot of dead cap.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, Daniel Jones is going to get a shitload of money this offseason.

[Big Cat]

Hopefully he stays with the Colts.

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be fun.

[Big Cat]

I would. I would assume they will try to do that. And I feel like. I feel like he took a little less money, so maybe he. Yeah, he just wants to stay on the Colts. Okay, let's take a break and we'll do our afternoon games before we do a couple ads.

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[Big Cat]

Okay, afternoon games. Packers 27, Bengals 18. Only three afternoon games. We were saying it's a little, it felt a little off putting the two Monday night games. Also too much. Yeah, also too. It's a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It's a lot.

[Big Cat]

I like Monday night having one game to focus on. It's my cool down, pull my brain down from football moment.

[PFT Commenter]

How much attention do you think we're going to be paying to the Buffalo Bills against the Atlanta Falcons?

[Big Cat]

We'll have it on. By the way, we're going to be streaming from the PMT studio. Will be on our YouTube. Please subscribe to our YouTube. We will be streaming live from the PMT studio for bears Commanders.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what's crazy about this game? The the Bears and Commanders are starting the same two quarterbacks in back to back matchups.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I bet you'd probably have to go back to like the year 2000.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To have that happen again.

[Big Cat]

Also, the Bears just only play in Washington.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's bullshit. Yeah, that is true.

[Big Cat]

Someone needs to do something about that.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll fix it. We'll get right on it.

[Big Cat]

Thank you. All right, we'll talk a little bit more about that game as we end the show. Packers 27, Bengals 18. The packers actually look kind of shitty in the first half off the buy. Little clunky. Jordan Love was doing his like impersonation of basically me playing Madden where I don't step up in the pocket. I just keep drifting, drifting, drifting and then throw it. He did that a couple times the first half. Then he locked in. The packers offense looked good in the second half. Matthew Golden's going to be really good. This was kind of his first like, oh, shit, this guy. He had that big catch at the end of the game to basically ice the game away. And that's, that was the scary part where it's like, yeah, they do have a ton of weapons and when they are clicking like Jordan Love throwing the deep ball, it just, when it works, it looks very, very good.

[PFT Commenter]

It looks very tough to beat. Especially when you combine that with Josh Jacobs looking pretty good too.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Running like super physically Monster. And then Joe Flacco looked like a guy that hadn't been on his team for longer than four days for the first half.

[Big Cat]

Second half, he started slinging it. He was like, oh, I forgot it's Jamar Chase now. It's not whoever's on the Browns. I could just throw it in his general area. And that touchdown catch was just a. I'm going to throw in his general area and let Jamar Chase be Jamar Chase.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. In the first half though, it. There were like guys either running the wrong routes or he didn't know where to go with the ball. I think Baker screwed it up for everybody. Yeah. When Baker went to Los Angeles and started on like 12 hours of learning the playbook. So earlier this week, Flacco was driven from Cleveland to Cincinnati with the playbook. He studied the playbook on the way there, there, then got a little bit of practice in, tried to learn everybody's name. Probably still doesn't know everyone's name. First half, things looked out of sorts. You saw on the sidelines, they had some backups that were getting a little bit limber on the sidelines. And I thought that was very rude to Joe. It's like the guy just got here, let him work his way in. He couldn't get away from the pass rush when it got to him because he's Joe Flacco and he's old.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But then the second half he just started chucking it. And when he chucks it, he can still do that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he. They, I mean, the Bengals also, this was not a Joe Flacco problem. This is the fourth straight game they have not scored a touchdown in the first half. So they've been starting slow. I feel like that second half Joe Flacco showed enough for them to be like, hey, we might have a fighting chance here.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

[Big Cat]

A little bit more of than what you were getting from Jake Browning. And. But this was, I mean, the packers controlled the game in the second half. And it was, I was, it was. There was one moment where the second half started was 10 nothing packers and the Bengals went on like a eight minute drive to make it 10 7. You're like, are the fucking Bengals going to do. Is Joe Flacco going to do this again? And I bet packers fans were thinking the same thing because it was kind of the same game script, low scoring game, like you know, keep just hanging around, hanging around. And then the packers were able to pull away.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Joe Flacco just gets traded to every team that's about to play the Green Bay packers for the rest of the season.

[Big Cat]

So I got a blind resume for you guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

For this. This is. Which QB would you want versus the Packers? QB1,361 yards, three touchdowns. QB2,319 yards, three touchdowns.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to guess that they might both be the same guy. Big Cat.

[Big Cat]

No, they're not. QB 2, 319 yards and three touchdowns is Dak Prescott when he put up 40 on the Packers.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

QB 1 is Joe Flacco versus the Packers. Two games.

[PFT Commenter]

Two games. Got it. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

361 yards, three touchdowns.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good.

[Big Cat]

I was.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I saw that he threw for 219 today, so I thought there was a transcription error.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No. Definitely no.

[Big Cat]

Joe Flacco versus the Packers. 361 yards. 361 yards, three touchdowns. I also might have left out an interception.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, yeah. You didn't say. You didn't list interceptions.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You just said touchdowns.

[Big Cat]

Either guy had it. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So it doesn't matter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

Joe looked great, by the way, in a Bengals uniform.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And the striped helmet. He looked awesome. Trey Hendrickson going out probably didn't help the cause.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

At all. Is he going to be okay?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not sure what he had.

[Big Cat]

They have a short week. They're playing the Steelers. Jamar Chase is ready for it. He said after the game, we know the Steelers are going to come in and try to raw dog us and kill us, but we'll be ready for that challenge and waiting for it, skin on skin. They're going to raw dog them. They're going to raw dog them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

I have a question for packers fans. Are you worried about the pass rush? Because the Bengals offensive line is bad. Joe Flacco is old and they only sacked him once. And they only have two sacks in their last two games.

[PFT Commenter]

They got in his face, though. They made him uncomfortable.

[Big Cat]

They did.

[PFT Commenter]

They forced a lot of it. A lot of incompletions. Hit him five times, I think.

[Big Cat]

But you would expect with Micah Parsons.

[PFT Commenter]

This was a game where you get more sacks.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a game going into where Parsons and the rest of the guys were like, okay, let's. Let's pat or stack a little bit here. Yeah, it's going to be one where everybody should get one.

[Big Cat]

And I feel like this was a game that packers wins a win. But I saw, at least from the packers fans, I follow, like, they were like, what the hell's going on in the first Half. You're coming off a buy. This should be. You know, you started the season hot and then you had a couple bumps in the road with the Browns game and the Cowboys game. What's going on here? Why aren't we killing the Bengals? And then they did end up kind of killing Bengals.

[PFT Commenter]

So as far as I can see it, Flaco's got two jobs to do on the Bengals. No one. No one thinks that Flacco is going to lead the Bengals to the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Right. I'm not ready to say no.

[PFT Commenter]

You can hope.

[Big Cat]

I'm not ready to say no.

[PFT Commenter]

But as Americans, here's what we should hope for. For Joe Flacco, two things. One is that you keep Jamar Chase engaged enough in this offense to make him still play hard throughout the entire season so that we can all watch Jamar Chase play football and be really good at football, because that's so much fun to watch and also so he doesn't have bad vibes that linger on into next year for the Bengals.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Job number two for Joe Flacco is going to be to make the Bengals watchable in all these primetime and national standalone games that they have.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

I think what we saw in the second half was enough for us to kind of take our foot off that. That holy button. I can't stand to watch this team play.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't want to. I'm looking ahead in the schedule four weeks and thinking how much I'm going to be dreading watching the Bengals as a standalone game. I think he did enough to make us think it might. Things might be okay.

[Big Cat]

There's always.

[PFT Commenter]

It's an important service for America with the.

[Big Cat]

The big. I completely agree. The big. The big difference between Jake Browning and. And Jake Browning has done some nice things. Some. Not these things. We watched that Broncos Bengals game. They just couldn't throw the ball downfield. Joe Flacco is going to throw the ball down.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

If you let him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

He will throw the ball down.

[PFT Commenter]

He will throw it up.

[Big Cat]

And that's all we asked for.

[PFT Commenter]

And he Targeted Jamar Chase 10 times. That's great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep that up, Joe.

[Big Cat]

If you keep doing it, if you.

[PFT Commenter]

Keep throwing the ball in his. In his area, think good things are going to happen for you. I do have a problem with something that Matt LaFleur did, though. Oh, he deprived us of history today.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, he did.

[PFT Commenter]

Called a sneaky timeout.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

As Evan McFerson was attempting a 67 yard field goal, y NFL record, McFerson made it, bounced it off the upright and went in kind of like. That was the Justin Tucker kick against the. The Lions, right?

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

It set the record. And then he kicked it again and it landed like five yards short.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it was returned.

[Big Cat]

He robbed us.

[PFT Commenter]

Robbed us of a moment. Rob. Robbed us of a little history being made in this game.

[Big Cat]

Game. Yeah. No, that was. That. That was a sick kick. Like, outdoor 67 yards. Just barely. Like it doinked and like, rolled in, skipped. Yeah, that did suck. That would have been cool for Evan McFerson. You got to. Especially a team like the Bengals, like, let them have that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Give them their moment.

[Big Cat]

I guess that also would have meant that they were. Would have been tied when the Bengals did score a touchdown in the. To start the second half.

[PFT Commenter]

It's still a sneaky move. It's a sneaky. It's beneath sneaky.

[Big Cat]

It's a sneaky. Sneaky.

[PFT Commenter]

It's beneath the packers organization.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It is a sneaky move. Okay. Anything else? I mean, the packers are good. I. I did think it was weird they came out slow like that, but, you know, I guess teams respond differently to the. To the buy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

But who do they play?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, they play the Cardinals.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're going to kill the Cardinals. That's not going to be.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Steelers.

[Big Cat]

That will be fun.

[PFT Commenter]

That'll be a fun game at Steelers. Yeah, that'll be very fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that'll be very fun. There'll be a lot of story lines in that game. That's a Sunday Night Football football game.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, also, you know, Aaron Rogers used.

[Big Cat]

To play for the back.

[PFT Commenter]

He did, Yeah, A couple teams ago.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's also helpful that Joe's playing well because I. I absolutely hate the standalone games where the announcers make their entire storyline. Like, this team sucks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, going into it, like, there's. They've struggled a lot, and then they have to try to convince America to get excited about Jake Browning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They're trying.

[PFT Commenter]

One thing that he's done. Yeah. Now you don't have to try to dig for a storyline. It's like, can Joe do it again?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. By the way, I completely forgot to mention one thing. Did you know that Aaron Rodgers, he hit his best numbers against any team in the NFL is actually the Cleveland Browns?

[PFT Commenter]

I did not know that.

[Big Cat]

This is more just trying to deflect for what he's done to the Bears. He's 4 and O against the Browns. 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions, 124 passer rating.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, he hates the Browns. He must hate Cleveland.

[Big Cat]

Hates The Browns. Okay. Raiders 20. Titans 10. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Did you see any Cam Ward today?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Cam Ward was not great. He had three turnovers and he also.

[PFT Commenter]

Had like a couple others that looked like turnovers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That ended up not being turned. I forgot that Cam Ward was a small hands guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was nine inches. It wasn't good. It was not good. The Tennessee Titans have scored 83 points. It's week six. It scored 83 points. Again, it's week six. It's. It's not a lot of points for, for six games. They also. Here's their first half point total in the last four weeks. Zero points, six points. Zero points. Six points scored, zero points today. Not good.

[PFT Commenter]

I felt really good about taking the Raiders minus three and a half until the very end of the game where it looked like they were about to get the sneakiest back door cover of all time.

[Big Cat]

Well, listen, Cam Ward, I think he's set up in a really bad spot right now. Calvin Ridley also out like he's got nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It is worth noting that he. So in the last two games, he's thrown for 487 yards. 304 of those yards have come on just five drives. The last three of the Cardinals game and the last two in today's game. Now obviously they won the Cardinals game, so you can't call it garbage time, but there was a little bit of garbage time before the final couple drives. So it hasn't been great for the Titans. Let's just say that it's bad. And to add even to it, Brian Callahan is 4:19. As a Titans head coach Mike Vrabel has four wins in his new job.

[PFT Commenter]

And who are the Titans playing next week?

[Big Cat]

They're playing the New England Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Mike Vrabel is going to kick the shit out of the Titans.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Actually. Whose line is it anyway?

[Hank]

I already.

[Big Cat]

Right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Where. Where is it?

[Big Cat]

I think it's in Tennessee because I think I saw this stat and I'm not trying to pile on Tennessee Titans fans. We know it's bad right now. Hey, listen, Cam Ward might be good.

[PFT Commenter]

We don't know. It's impossible to know.

[Big Cat]

He might be good. Where. Where is it? It's in. It's in Tennessee. Right?

[Hank]

It's at Tennessee.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that might even be worse.

[Big Cat]

So what's. Whose Line Is it anyway? On the DraftKings sports.

[Hank]

I know what it is. Do you guys want to guess?

[Big Cat]

I. I already.

[Hank]

I already bet it for a nuclear earlier tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to guess nine at Tennessee. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Six and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Based on your reaction, what were you going to say before Hank's reaction?

[Big Cat]

I was going to say like seven and a half. I was going to say over a touchdown.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought it was going to be over a touchdown.

[Max]

I was.

[Hank]

I. I thought the same thing. And then I feel like it's going to. I hope the line moves.

[PFT Commenter]

Vrabel is in the week going to be on a mission.

[Hank]

Oh, my God. So in. The Patriots are going to be on a mission for variable.

[Big Cat]

If the Patriots win that game, Mike Vrabel will have the same amount of wins in Nissan Stadium as a visiting coach as Brian Callahan does. And he's played a lot more games in Nissan Stadium the last two years. That's won one game at home.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So Mike Vrabel can tie that. That would be. Wow. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Much like it's impossible to know if. If Cam Ward is good or not, I think it's also kind of impossible to know if Ashton Genti is good or not.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because watch this gets smashed on every play.

[PFT Commenter]

Watch him run the ball. It's. It's like he's driving a moped into a brick wall.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Every time. And like, there's no way that he can get out of some of these hits that he's taking. It's impossible.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's. The Raiders are not good. They just played the Titans. I think it's like, are the Raiders back? No, no, they just played the Titans.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So. Because like Gino, even I. My hot take going into this game was Gino is not going to throw a pick. He threw a pick.

[PFT Commenter]

Proved it wrong.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Almost made it. We made it a full half. He now has 10 picks on the season. He also had a weird quote. He said, I told coach that I need to jump into a lake or ocean or something. It's a lot of bad luck stuff happening to me, but I'm in control of that. So I don't really understand this quote because one Vegas doesn't have any. I guess they do have some lakes.

[PFT Commenter]

They got the man made lake.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

They got the man made the Hoover Dam.

[Big Cat]

But also it's a lot of bad luck stuff happening to me, but I'm in control of that. So is he. He's the bad luck.

[PFT Commenter]

He can control his bad luck, though. He hasn't done enough to turn his bad luck around.

[Big Cat]

But he's like, damn, how'd that interception happen again?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

No way.

[Big Cat]

I threw it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He thinks bad luck is something that is actually like in your own hands. You can flip it around if you care enough.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He has.

[PFT Commenter]

Not a good town to be unlucky in.

[Big Cat]

No. No. So, yeah, but I guess it's good for. For the Raiders. They won a game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think they have a gauntlet coming up, too.

[PFT Commenter]

This would be a game that you would lose and you would probably then have like, no fans coming out to support you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

At home.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Also, yeah, I would say it's. It's getting Brian Callahan. It's Brian Callahan. Mike McDaniel. Let's do coach coach firings. Who's the next. Who's the first coach fire hot list. Brian Callahan, Mike McDaniel.

[PFT Commenter]

Gannon's got to be in the conversation.

[Max]

Aaron Glenn.

[Big Cat]

Aaron Glenn. Those are the four. Who are you guys picking? I think I'm going with callahan.

[Hank]

I think McDaniel has been there long ago and it's just gotten worse and worse.

[Big Cat]

Who's got the bye week first? Let's see. Bye weeks. That's always, let's see. Like, hey, we can fire them right before the bye week.

[PFT Commenter]

When does Callahan have his bye?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, because that will be a big. Whenever.

[PFT Commenter]

His buy is after the Patriots.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no. See. Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, no, wait. I did that wrong. No, wrong. That was a mistake.

[Big Cat]

No, they haven't in a few weeks. Week 10, week 10 is their bye week. If it was after the Patriots, it would have been. It would have been done.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So the Charger. So what's going to happen is the Patriots are going to kick the ever loving shit out of him and then he's going to convince them like, hey, just let me stick around for a little bit longer. They're going to go to the Colts. They're going to get smashed by the Colts, then against the Chargers, and then he'll be fired.

[Big Cat]

All right, so week 12 is the bye week for the Dolphins. So I think I'd probably.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably have to go call hand. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I did say after the game. I'm incredibly discouraged by the outcome. Everyone is a part of it, including Cam Ward.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he's not wrong, but that's not something that Callahan would have said until he felt real pressure on him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just like every. Hey, guys, I don't just suck. Everyone sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Which he's right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they do.

[Big Cat]

He's absolutely right.

[PFT Commenter]

But again, like, not really an indictment on Cam Ward necessarily. The fact that Cam Ward sucked today is not 100% on Cam Ward.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This is a brutal game to watch, though, because I feel like every time I looked up Someone was getting sacked instantly or. Gino was just throwing the ball like, four feet away from him. Yeah, he. I looked it up because I was like, it feels like he didn't throw anything deep. He had. He averaged 2.7 air yards per attempt. He had one pass over 10 yards.

[PFT Commenter]

So even on his misses, his passes probably also went like 2.7.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So it was just. It was a tough one to watch.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a very tough game to watch. Now, the Cardinals, they. Gannon might be a sneaky one.

[Big Cat]

Oh, when's. When is. When's their bi.

[PFT Commenter]

Week? I'm not good at figuring out when bye weeks are.

[Big Cat]

Well, if you just look.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, the 19th is against the packers.

[Big Cat]

And then. Are you just trying to guess based.

[PFT Commenter]

On the date on the dates? Yeah, but I think I got this one. I think it's actually. They got one more game and then the buy.

[Big Cat]

Yes, you're right.

[PFT Commenter]

Am I right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They play Green Bay and then they have the bye week, so. Yeah, it could be Gannon.

[PFT Commenter]

It could be Gannon.

[Big Cat]

It could be Gannon. And man, listen, I don't root for anyone to be fired. Remember, these guys have. Have to move their houses. They have to get paid a lot of money.

[PFT Commenter]

It sucks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If Gannon gets fired, there's never been anything that's been more correct than seeing that shots, pew, pew, pew, pew. And being like, nope, not a coach, like, instantly, nope.

[PFT Commenter]

What if Callahan.

[Big Cat]

Wait, is Gannon. No, Gannon's defensive. Right. So you wouldn't bring him back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You really.

[Max]

We need McDaniel.

[Big Cat]

Oh, do you think you'd bring in McDaniel?

[Max]

Has. Has there ever been an OC mid season hiring?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, you bring him on as, like, what you do is you bring him on as a consultant, and then after a few weeks, you're like, hey, actually, he's going to start calling place. Actually.

[Max]

Yeah, I think we did that with Patricia.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, that definitely can happen. You just ease them in. You don't just do it right away.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you got to root. Yeah, you got to root for. You got to get an offensive guy quickly.

[PFT Commenter]

But I feel he'd be more likely to go back to a, like a Shanahan McVeigh type landing spot.

[Max]

Right?

[PFT Commenter]

Who, McDaniel?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Unless the Eagles are just like, hey, we could. We could win a Super bowl here.

[PFT Commenter]

We could pay you more. We got Big Dom.

[Big Cat]

Got Big Dom.

[PFT Commenter]

They don't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that if Callahan gets fired, his dad could take his place as head coach?

[Big Cat]

The reverse OEDIPUS complex still working there, though? Yeah, he is.

[PFT Commenter]

I think so.

[Big Cat]

Oh, then maybe. That would be sick. Yeah. And I like Brian Callahan as guy. This is a bad situation. That. That the whole thing is. It's just a bad situation. I don't know what else to say.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't even know if it's Brian Callahan's fault for sucking. I don't think that it's Cam Ward's fault for sucking. Right now, I think that's mostly on Brian Callahan, but I don't know that it's Brian Callahan's fault that Brian Callahan is making Cam Ward suck.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Because of the environment.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he is. He is. Bill Callahan still is there.

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be such a funny thing. Your son gets fired. I'll take that job.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, I got it from here. Son once a lifetime opportunity.

[Big Cat]

Well, you needed a guy who's coached before.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Last afternoon game, Bucks 30, 49ers 19. Baker Mayfield. That's it.

[PFT Commenter]

Baker Mayfield.

[Big Cat]

That's Baker May. It's Baker Mayfield. Like, I. I don't want to just distill this game into one play or one drive, but Baker Mayfield, they don't have. The Bucks don't have Mike Evans, they don't have Chris Godwin, they don't have Jalen McMillan. Ebuka was out for the second half. The third and 14 scramble that Baker had where you could screenshot it at any moment and be like, he's about to get killed. And he just somehow found a way to get a first down. And then I think two plays later, pump fake dime to Tez Johnson. 45 yard touchdown to go up 30 to 19. Baker Mayfield.

[PFT Commenter]

Baker Mayfield. I'm gonna. I'm gonna let Kevin Durant say, because he said it pretty good. A. Baker, you hooping?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

With four exclamation points. And then he edited that to make it say, hey, Baker, you hooping with no exclamation points? And somebody said, you decided the four exclamation points were too much glaze. And Kevin Durant said, yes, that's perfect, but it's legit. Like, I think he probably thought to himself, I. I shouldn't be glazing him this hard. He hates Texas.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And so I can't. I can't do that to him. So he deleted the exclamation points. But Baker, he has now as many rushes for first downs on third down plays as anybody else in the NFL.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So he's tied with Jalen Hurts.

[Big Cat]

He's. I mean, he's so good. I don't know what to say. Like, I like this team. And the 49ers are kind of in the similar way where it's like, the amount of injuries is. The Bucks and 49ers have, I think, would. They would be like, if you just played those guys, they would beat the jets easily. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's crazy to flashback, like, two years.

[Big Cat]

Probably beat the Bears, probably beat everyone. I beat the Eagles.

[PFT Commenter]

When the Bucks signed Baker Mayfield, they did it because they were like, oh, Tom Brady's retiring. We don't really have that many options. We'll just let these guys duke it out and training camp, see who's better.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, Baker was not guaranteed of a starting job.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When the Bucks got him. And now he's legitimately an MVP candidate.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And when he. When he made.

[Big Cat]

Not MVP candidate mvp. He might be a front runner right now. Look at the. Look at the odds on. On drafting. I mean, he's got 12 touchdowns, one interception. He just makes big plays. He also just takes, like, he's always taking shots downfield. Yeah. He's third in odds. So it's Josh, Allen, Mahomes, and then Baker.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

He's a front runner.

[PFT Commenter]

And when he. When he connected with Tez on that deep ball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you. Did you hear what Tess said about that play afterwards? No. He caught it in the end zone, and then he heard the MVP chance, and Tez, for a second thought that the fans were chanting MVP for him.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then he did a flip.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And they did a flip, and. And he freaked out, and he's like, oh, yeah. They're probably saying that about Baker.

[Big Cat]

And they asked Baker after. About the flip, and he was.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If I weighed 116 pounds or 142 pounds, I'd probably be able to fly to.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, I haven't weighed 142 pounds in sixth grade.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So the. The Bucks are fun. I don't know what else to say. Like, Baker is. Must watch tv. He's awesome. Their defense, Vita V. Is a monster. There was he. It just felt like he was getting a push on every play. And, yeah, if they get healthy, they're a dangerous, dangerous team. As for the 49ers, this was just like, they won that game on Thursday night against the Rams. Emptied the clip. This is a tough one to get back up for. And Fred Warner getting hurt was brutal. The ankle dislocation, he's probably out for the year. They just can't catch a break.

[PFT Commenter]

You're going to need to find some more dead bodies every morning for Mac Jones to see it's fired up enough. And then one of their healthy receivers, Juwan Jennings, has five broken ribs and high and low ankle sprains.

[Big Cat]

Jesus Christ.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There was a report that Juwan Jennings and Kyle Shanahan had to be, like, kind of separated from the sideline during the game. They were like, yelling at each other. And Mac Jones.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he, Juan was probably just like, ouch.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, don't tell me you're hurt, please.

[Big Cat]

Mac Jones battled. He had two interceptions. The first one wasn't really his fault. The wide receiver just didn't run the route that he was expecting him to run. And yeah, Kendrick Bourne's good. It's. It's crazy that the, the 49ers are able to just have guys be good when, like, guy gets hurt, it's like, oh, yeah, Kendrick Bourne's gonna rip off 140 yards.

[PFT Commenter]

And they, they look competitive. Like the Niners were.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They were competing in the, in this game until the second half when things got like a little bit out of hand.

[Big Cat]

It was a one score game till 2 and a half minutes left.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So the Niners, I think they'll be fine. I'm still optimistic about them if they can get healthy. But that's a big if. I've Learned about the 49ers because they just keep getting hurt and. Yeah, it's, it's, it's tough.

[Big Cat]

How many more Baker do we have? A lot of Baker prime time games. Because this is where we need, like the flex scheduling where it's.

[Hank]

They play the Patriots at 1:00'.

[Big Cat]

Clock.

[Hank]

That's got to get flexed to at.

[Big Cat]

Least four o' clock because the Patriots.

[Hank]

Both MVPs.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, we got, we got the Lions next.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Monday Night Football.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's a good one.

[Big Cat]

Another double header.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn. That's going to be the one that we watch. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, they got a few. They got a Sunday night game, two Sunday night game and a Thursday night game coming up. So good. I need more Baker. Baker. I just want more Baker.

[Hank]

Would you rather have them stagger the starts or do them like back to back with Monday night?

[Big Cat]

Good question.

[PFT Commenter]

I like the back to back.

[Big Cat]

Back.

[Hank]

Same.

[PFT Commenter]

I like to focus on one game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Especially after a long Sunday where it's just like all the football happening at the same time. I like having a night where I can just sit Watch one game.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Watch the next game.

[Hank]

I just saw A lot of people bitching about the being late or whatever.

[Big Cat]

I mean, it was late, but I would rather be able to focus, especially with baseball. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Two games. That's probably why they're doing it, to.

[PFT Commenter]

Try to take away from baseball. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, what. There's two. There's two CS games on Monday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There's two football games. Damn.

[Max]

It's a good sports night.

[Big Cat]

It's a great sports night. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying, like, I. I do like having Monday Night Football be like, a sacred. Sit down on the couch now.

[Hank]

It does suck when you get Monday Night Football.

[Big Cat]

When you get a bad. When you get a bad game, it does suck. I do like the fact that with two games, you have the ability to be like, all right, if one of them sucks, you got another game to bail you out. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But when bad games get bad during Monday Night Football, they. They become funny sometimes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right. That's why I'm actually excited that we have a doubleheader for tomorrow night, because, like, if the Bears are bad, it's like. But look at the Bills and the Falcons. That game's going on sick.

[Hank]

It's a big game.

[Big Cat]

I know it's a big game, but I'm saying the Bears playing on national television doesn't usually go well. It's not like a sick time where everyone's just like, this team sucks over and over.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd say for the. For the commanders, too. Like, historically, we've been very bad on Monday Night Football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It just becomes a. It becomes like, you know, it. When it. When it's happening in real time, when you're like, okay, here comes, you know, open mic night for the next four hours. We're just gonna get blasted.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Especially with Joe Buck up in the booth and for you. Because there's, like, an outside chance that he might take a veiled shot at you. So if it gets out of hand.

[Big Cat]

Enough, it gets really. It gets bored enough, if it gets.

[PFT Commenter]

Really, really bad in the fourth quarter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He might throw something out there that just personally insults you. So I'm looking forward to tomorrow night. Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

[Big Cat]

Let's talk about the last game, then we'll talk about that. And some. Some playoffs. The Chiefs are going back to at least the AFC Championship game, probably the super bowl now. So they beat the Lions, 30, 17. I said this two weeks ago. I think there was a quote card that people were dunking on, trying to dunk on me. I was like, Chiefs are going to go back to the Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes can win the mvp. There's nothing we can do about it. That's happening. That's happening. You see it. Their offense is getting right. Their defense is good. They even said on the broadcast, they're like, yeah, these guys were telling us in private conversations they feel better about this team at 2 and 3. You know, the game was still going on at 2 and 3 than they did last year about the team that was 10 and 1 or whatever that tells you every. Yeah, they know that they're good.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a better team. It's a better team overall. And they. There's. They're evolving, too. So this is like the wrinkle that I think Andy Reid had been hanging on to for a while. They're putting Mahomes under center now.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And they're handing the ball off and it's working really well.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And now they're going to be doing play action under center, and then Mahomes is going to be like, oh, this game's back on easy mode for me now.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Now that I can do this. They didn't have to do that before. There was no need to. They didn't even have to run the ball if they didn't want to. But now they're trying to keep teams honest. And now it's just going to go back to Patrick Mahomes thinking that this game is very simple and everybody else being very frustrated.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And he's just scrap. He's back to like every. Every drop back. He's just either they're perfectly blocking for him. If they don't, he just scrambles to the perfect place where he can throw it to.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, every play is just kept alive at all times. Patrick Mahomes. I also think that I feel like the. The. The lines got a little too cute. Just run the fucking ball some more. Like. And then they ran the ball too much at the end when they had to make up a. You know, they're still trying to establish the run down a bunch. But, like, even the. The. We were listening to it. You heard it live. The Jared golf play. Like, you have fourth down. Just run it one more time right up their face. You have David Montgomery. Like, you have an awesome offensive line. Just pound it. That's what you do. Dan Campbell.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. I. I think that the Lions, they were not ready tonight.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

The Chiefs were way more physical than they thought they'd be.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not a finesse Chiefs team. It. They Are very capable of getting, like, muddy with you, getting dirty with you. And then you pissed Mahomes off too, when you hit him a little bit late. Aiden Hutchinson, by the way, looked awesome tonight.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he did.

[PFT Commenter]

He was in his face the whole time, but he took a couple unnecessary, like, extra step shots at him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then you don't want to piss.

[Big Cat]

Mahomes off, but it was just the difference in this game felt like it was. The Lions weren't able to. To convert on those, like, fourth downs that they had, and the Chiefs were able to just keep doing it, like going down the field. That was the difference. Like the Lions, when they, when they don't have their. Their fourth downs don't go their way, it. This is what can happen. And Dan Campbell knew coming in. He said he had to. They had to score 30 to win. He was right. The Chief scored 30.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

They scored 17. But yeah, the Chiefs are. What are you going to do? They're. They're awesome. Mahomes is awesome. No one the. The. They gave that brief glimpse of like, oh, they might not be good anymore. And it was so brief. And if you fell for it, I'm sorry, but it's just not true. Do you agree, Hank?

[Hank]

Yeah. And the NFL on their side.

[Big Cat]

Oh, they're.

[Hank]

They're good, though. They're very good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're going to. They're going to be just fine. They'll probably not get the one seed and then they'll just. And everyone will make a conversation about how they have to go on the road and then Patrick Moans will go on the road and it'll be fine.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, there goes into New England, though, because with the Patriots schedule, Hank, you guys will probably host a playoff game, host Mahomes, and then you have the chance to just really take the torch away from him. The torch that he took from Tom.

[Hank]

If we really want to take the torch away from him, we take it from him there and in his house.

[PFT Commenter]

You want that?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You're going to take it from him in his house? Yeah, I mean, the.

[Zach]

We.

[Big Cat]

The.

[PFT Commenter]

The.

[Big Cat]

They're one game back from, you know, the Broncos and the Chiefs or, sorry, in the Chargers. They still get to play the Broncos twice.

[PFT Commenter]

Chargers don't look good anymore. Or they don't look like they did at the start of the season because of injuries.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the Chiefs played a really, really hard schedule to start. Start the season, and now it probably is going to get a little softer, although I think they still have some tough games. But yeah, they're Going to go. They're going to. They're going to be in the SEC championship game. You can't fight it. Just let it go. Do you guys agree? Just let it go.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the Chiefs are right now. Yes. Extremely dangerous.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You're kidding yourself if you think they're not.

[Big Cat]

Anyone want to disagree?

[PFT Commenter]

They're getting Rasheed Rice back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They're going to be good. They're going to be very good.

[Big Cat]

Zach, I forgot to ask you, like, how, how on like a level of 1 to 10, how much do you love Baker?

[Zach]

Oh, it's so much fun to watch every Sunday or not every Sunday.

[Big Cat]

You know what I mean? Yeah, Sunday.

[Zach]

But like, every. Every time they're on the field. So much fun to watch. And like, you see like a move comes up with the hamstring is like, oh, goodness, this can't be good. And like, oh, just next man up. Like, we'll make this work. And like, the defense was so much fun to watch today. Like, held the 1, 1 touchdown on the ground. Two picks, the whole team. It just like, it's a great way to spend the weekend.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Watch the Bucks play football.

[Big Cat]

It's an enjoyable experience.

[Zach]

I hope I get to continue to watch them play football.

[Big Cat]

What, are you going to die or something?

[Zach]

No, it's never guaranteed. I just hope next week we can watch some more football and we're going to go to Detroit and they're going to do their best they can do to win another game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, let's do it. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

One week at a time, Zach.

[Zach]

That's it. One day at a time. Yes, sir. But one week as well.

[Big Cat]

How. How nervous will you get? Like, do you get for Bucks playoff games?

[Zach]

Playoff games are very, very nerve wracking. Just because, like, over here now, like, the regular season is good, you need those reps to get in, but playoff games is like, oh, shit, we might.

[Big Cat]

Be able to do it. It's perfectly said. It's perfectly said. Okay. Pft. You want to do two more ads and then we will talk some baseball and some Monday Night Football.

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[Big Cat]

I might need a salad. Guys, it's been a long weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

Might do a bowl. Maybe some sort.

[Max]

Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Poke bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there we go.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to fish up.

[Big Cat]

That way we don't feel like we're eating salad.

[PFT Commenter]

Salads. Let's fish up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, let's do it.

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[Big Cat]

Okay. Playoff baseball Mariners start with the Al Mariners. Incredible Al. They're in the ALCS. They win game one, which was. I thought they were not going to have any chance in game one because on Friday night night they played a 15 inning game against Detroit Tigers, which was pure torture for those fan bases.

[PFT Commenter]

I felt so bad, especially for Mariners fans because once you start to get to the 13th, 14th inning, you start to remember some other games that have happened there. You start to think about Houston. You start to think about Jordan Alvarez. Yeah, and it seemed like the, the vibes were not great in Seattle until they flipped the script. And this, this win goes as much to their stadium management crew as it does to the team on the field. Yep, because T Mobile park was a dead zone. People were just living in fear. And then they did a second salmon race. Sir. A second salmon race has hit T Mobile Park.

[Big Cat]

Get the vibes up.

[PFT Commenter]

And Humpy the salmon, a mascot who never won the salmon run that they do there. His record was 0 and 162 since they started doing the salmon run on opening day of 2024. Humpy was going up against King Silver. Sockeye never won. But on Friday night, they did a second salmon run. Humpy1 vibes shift entirely. Next inning, Mariners win. Yeah, pretty incredible time at the ballpark.

[Big Cat]

And it was, it was an insane game. It was one of those games where it got so late you had forgotten that we had watched two insane pitching performances from Kirby and Scubal. If you're a Tigers fan, you're just sitting there like, we pulled Scubal again because Finnegan, who came in for him, gave up a run after school, got pulled in the sixth inning. He was in 99 pitches. He had 13 strikeouts. He is so dominant. But it was the Mariners, like being resilient. They, you know, they found a way to, to make it happen. It was just every single. Like there was guys on base. I feel like in a lot of the extra innings that just the tension was insane. I feel bad for the Tigers. I'm happy for Mariners fans. They like, they're crying in games. They're. They're. The crowd is stressed beyond belief. It was, it was quite a scene.

[PFT Commenter]

I saw some people shaming. Shaming Mariners fans for crying. Crying when they won.

[Big Cat]

Stupid.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, it was because it wasn't when they won. There was a guy who's crying when, like in the sixth inning because it.

[PFT Commenter]

Was all too much for him.

[Big Cat]

No. Yeah. Like they got a. They like took the lead or something or they had a big hit. That was a big crying. Listen, it was like the sixth inning.

[PFT Commenter]

We should be encouraging guys to all these emotional releases.

[Big Cat]

I agree. And then tonight. So they went. They played 15 innings on Friday night and then had to fly all the way to Toronto for game one. I was like, there's just no way this team is going to be able, like you just throw this game away and try to get them game two and then they take it to the Blue Jays and they win three one and they're up one nothing in the alcs. It's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Was it three hitter?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And they use, they use like a lot of pitcher. I was actually getting to a point where it's like, if this just keeps going, like, do you, you do you just run out of pitchers? Because you just. At some point you're going to run out of pitchers.

[PFT Commenter]

Some of the arms have to be gassed just from the 15 inning game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And no, I'm saying during the 15 inning game, I was like, are they going to just run out of pitchers at some point? Because if it went to 25 innings.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What do you do? I don't know.

[Big Cat]

What do you do?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know that. That's. The ghost runner was supposed to solve this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They don't do in the playoffs, which I'm, I'm, I think that's actually a great rule change that baseball.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like the ghost runner in the regular season.

[Big Cat]

Awesome. Awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but don't bring that into the playoffs, dude.

[Big Cat]

Pitch clock. Awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

In the postseason also.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I love.

[Big Cat]

Been awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

I love, I love Senor Smoke. It's just such a cool nickname.

[Big Cat]

Dude. What a, what a moment for him too on his birthday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It was also funny because. Were you guys listening to the game at all? AJ Prasinski was getting so frustrated because they just kept on throwing sliders.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He was getting so mad. He's like, this is where you throw a fastball up another slider. He also, he loves saying the word punchies for strikeouts. Yeah. Yeah. He's got 13 punches. But yeah, it was, it was a two hitter tonight for the two Mariners. And big dumper went poo poo. And the Mariners are up one nothing. Saturday night Cubs got eliminated. I went up there. It was. I'm. I do not regret going because it was a fun ride up. So I took 16 guys, we got a party. I rented a party bus, mix of friends and then people from the office all trying to go up to Milwaukee, get a win, have an all time night. Did not go that way. It was a soul sucking loss that one of those losses that just, you just watched. You sat there being like, something's got to happen. Something's got to happen. And nothing happened.

[PFT Commenter]

I imagine that that was extremely frustrating because it was such a close game too. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Where one small positive thing happens and you're like, yes, okay, it's about to happen now. And then nothing happens. So the game you get like you allow yourself to, to buy into the hope over and over and over and over again. Oh, with nothing happening the whole time.

[Big Cat]

We were just after every inning, we're, we're just pumping ourselves up being like, just get a base runner. Just get a baserunner. I will say I, I was nervous from the jump because the Cubs were, the way they were playing was just a little off. They weren't the sharp. They weren't as sharp as I was expecting them to be in Game 5. And it started in the first inning when PCA, who's just, he's, listen, he's, you know, young, excited to be in the playoffs, maybe a little spazzy at times, you know, trying to, trying to catch home runs. He did it again. He did it again like 300ft over his head.

[PFT Commenter]

This one wasn't as bad as the. But it was still funny.

[Big Cat]

But it happened in the first inning and there was a moment where PCA basically there was a ball hit almost directly to Ian Hap and PCA called him off and took his ball. And you could see the hat being like, dude, what the fuck? Like that was my ball. And then there was little things like that. Like Dans v. Swanson had a throwing error that didn't cost us any runs, but he doesn't have errors. And like there was, you know, a base stolen on Kittridge when he was in and he didn't even flinch, he didn't even move. They just stole a base. I was like, little things. But the game was basically came down to in the sixth inning. The two on, nobody out. Kyle Tucker up hard of the lineup up. Kyle Tucker was traded for this moment. This was the exact moment that you get a guy like Kyle Tucker. He had a 3:1 count and he gets a fastball right down the dick and he meekly fouled it off and then he struck out. And that was it. That was that from that moment. And then we went fly out, strikeout. And it was, it like that was. It basically sucked all the energy out. And it sucks because I did not think the Cubs were going to be a. I didn't think the Cubs were good enough to win a World Series, especially with where their pitching had gotten to. I. Once you get into the dance, once you get to a game five the nlds, you're like, I just want to keep going on this ride. Like, I just want to keep playing more baseball. They like, I was proud of them for fighting back and not getting sweet and Wrigley was awesome on Wednesday and Thursday, but so it was disappointing. It's a weird like blend of like disappointing. But also the team probably over achieved a little bit because of how bad the pitching had gotten in terms of they had like one and a half starters left. So. But yeah, it was, it was, it was a tough ride back. We sat in the, we sat in the parking lot for about an hour, hour and a half. Didn't move an inch. Just sitting there, 16 of us in the bus just being like that sucked. And it, it did suck.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It was the type of loss that you're just like sucks. You like, it just. It was soul sucking because it was three solo home runs. We had one solo home run and it's like nothing else.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So I know that earlier in the season you were like, just resign Tucker now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Get it done. Now what. What are we feeling about that?

[Big Cat]

That I personally would resign him because it's not my money and Tom Ricketts makes more than enough money, by the way. Just an aside. Don't you think that Tom Ricketts and Crane Kenny should match my donation to the Lost Boys?

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's the least they could.

[Big Cat]

I mean, that would be nice, right? I'm at 5K. You got a lot of money.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, you should. They should double.

[Big Cat]

They should double. So I don't care because it's not my money. There's no salary cap. They should definitely resign Kyle Tucker. There's a zero percent chance they resigned Kyle Tucker. Kyle Tucker gave a quote after the game that has. There's never been a guy who has been more gone than Kyle Tucker was gone in that moment. I don't know if you can pull it up because I don't know why my Twitter's not working right now. But his post. They're not resigning him. It's zero percent chance. I don't even know if they're going to offer him. So. And I. That's the biggest. That's the biggest, like, fear. Oh, yeah, there it is.

[Max]

No, that's not.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, that's not it. Yeah, you can find it. He basically was like, I. If I'm not here, I just want to wish these guys well. You don't wish someone well when you could potentially resign.

[PFT Commenter]

My guess is that they haven't had a conversation yet.

[Big Cat]

No, I think what has happened is I think the Cubs might have, like, tried to start a conversation and Kyle Tucker was like, no, I'm going to be a free agent. And. And they just know that there's just no way they're going to. The Cubs are cheap. They're not going to resign them. They're going to. They're going to try to do it the cheap way. And that's the frustrating part because I think the Cubs. Here it is. We'll see what happens. Don't know what the future is going to hold if not. It's been an honor playing with all these guys and wish everyone best of luck whether it's playing next year or not with them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's not good.

[Big Cat]

That's the most goodbye you could possibly have.

[PFT Commenter]

And then you think about the fact that you traded three guys together.

[Big Cat]

Him. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For a season, which I.

[Big Cat]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is fine if you keep him.

[Big Cat]

Well. So I don't know what the Cubs are going to do in the off season. I'm still not going to Judge it. If they don't spend any money, then I'm going to be like, what the fuck was that? They did have a team, you know, if Justin Steele doesn't get hurt, if Kate Horton doesn't get hurt, like they had a team that was competitive and could have. The other thing I will say in Kyle Tucker's defense, he did get injured and it completely changed his. I think he had 20 home runs in the first half. He broke his, his finger sliding into a base in the middle of summer. I think he had two home runs the rest of the year. And then he hurt his leg at the end of this in September. He was not the same guy. You could see it. He didn't have any pop in his bat. So people judging his second half, like, you have to put the context that he was hurt and he was playing hurt. And he was like. It was one of those things where he didn't even say he was hurt. People didn't know he was hurt for like three weeks. He just started sucking and everyone's like, oh shit, he might be hurt. And they're like, yeah, actually he is. He's got a broken hand. I just, I don't know. The Cubs, the thing that will drive me nuts is the Cubs have a little momentum. They have a good young core. They have positive things. It was cool to have playoff baseball back at Wrigley. The crowd was electric. It was a fun season. Overall. My fear is that Tom Ricketts will be like, oh, well, that was cool. We can basically just, you know, be like, hey, remember when we went back to the playoffs and not spend any money and be like, well, this team's good enough to win 88 games. Yeah, maybe get in the wild card.

[PFT Commenter]

Again, but maybe they'll get better too. Maybe they'll, maybe they'll learn better this off season. So we won't make any changes. We'll go with the guys we got.

[Big Cat]

Right. So that, that would be my fear. And if they do that, I will be mad about the Kyle Tucker trade.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's a bummer. Is that the, that it was. The game happened on a non show night. So we didn't get to see your initial reaction. Like we got Max's. Would, would you say that your reaction approached Max's?

[Big Cat]

Not even close. Because the way the Cubs lost, I knew it was a loss from the six inning on. Do you know what I mean? Like, I had a lot of time to mentally prepare for the Cubs not winning that game when, when, that moment when Kyle Tucker struck out in the six innings, I was like, that's it. That was the moment. We just blew the moment. So it wasn't like a walk off home run kind of thing?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I mean? Like, we just had. We had no fight after that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So it just. You process it and you're like, this is the reality. And you have like an hour basically to have the reality set in. And it's different than Max because the Cubs are on the young side, and Max, his team is basically going to completely change. So that was the end of an ERA for Max. I'm hoping this is the beginning of an ERA for the Cubs, and hopefully this is what the Cubs were in 2015, and then they won the World Series in 2016. I'm not saying they're in the World Series next year, but the year before the year kind of thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you thought about who you're targeting?

[Big Cat]

I would love Framber and Kyle Schwerber.

[PFT Commenter]

Schwab would be great.

[Big Cat]

Sure would be awesome. Bring them home. Be awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, did you follow through on your promise to not look at your phone?

[Max]

Absolutely not.

[Big Cat]

There was something said that I actually. I defended Max on the bus. Someone said after the game, I would have rather lost like the Phillies. And I was like, no, no, you don't. No, no, that's insane. And then I said, I would maybe rather have lost like the Tigers than. Than just because what you. Do you watch the game?

[PFT Commenter]

The 15 inning game?

[Big Cat]

No, I know. Did you watch the Cubs game? Yeah, they, like laid down. Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The la. The last three innings were just like. They completely laid down and it was just like strikeout after, like bad at bat. And it's just. It's when. When it's. But you'd rather go through a 15. I don't know. I would not fight your ass off.

[PFT Commenter]

I would not.

[Hank]

It's the same result.

[Big Cat]

No, I know.

[PFT Commenter]

15 innings and then you get so close and some of the extra innings and you don't get a run in.

[Big Cat]

It was just very demoralizing to watch the way the Cubs went out and they only gave. And it was like always. I think they. All their. All their runs. The brewers runs came with two outs.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, they just.

[Big Cat]

It was just like, oh, we're out of the sitting. Oh, so a home run. Fuck. That happened. Shit. And just like scoring one run in the second inning and having nothing else is just. It sucked. But yeah, Tigers. Tigers was worse. I was trying to cope. Credit to Bruce Bruiser are a really good playoff team. They get big hits when they need to. Mizorowski pitched well. They had a great plan. They started with Trevor McGill, their closer, because basically the Cubs had scored so many runs in the first inning. They're like, we. The first inning is now the ninth inning, and he was jacked up.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't hate that.

[Big Cat]

And it was. It was a smart play. Like, Pat Murphy's a hell of a manager. They managed the hell out of the game. They're really good team. They won the Central. Like, what are you going to do? Like, there's. They're. They were better than the Cubs, and it sucks. I do think it was a little bit of. They. They flew the L flag after.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, that was. That was sad.

[Big Cat]

So I have no problem with it because there's obviously a lot of anger because of the Craig Counsel thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'll just say it. It's little brother energy.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's for fans.

[Big Cat]

It's a little brother energy move.

[PFT Commenter]

I think fans should do that, right?

[Big Cat]

I. I'm not mad about it, but it is little brother energy. But, yeah, fans, absolutely.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I don't even think it's a little brother. If. If fans do it. If fans.

[Big Cat]

No, no, I agree. I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

That's all.

[Memes]

F. No.

[Big Cat]

Fans should get their shots. Yeah. There's a disparity between the two teams. The Cubs should have, like. Cubs should outspend everyone in the Central every single year. Ricketts doesn't. I mean, they do, but they don't. They could, like, make it way bigger. And the brewers are, you know, low salary, scrappy team, and they're really good. Like, they have just dogs who. Who get big hits and big moments.

[PFT Commenter]

Jackson, Cheerio. I know he wasn't great in this game, but Jackson Churro is a beast.

[Big Cat]

I mean, Andrew Vaughn would. Was. Is. Was garbage. He's garbage. And he just has become the best hitter and a big, big time hitter. William Contreras is an awesome catcher, and he had big moments. Like, Sal Freelick might be the fastest guy to get out of the box in mlb. Although Sal, I know he's a stoolie because he came by the office. That was a big pussy move, not scoring in the fourth inning when the ball, like, died in the infield. He could have easily scored. Yeah. Could have easily scored there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That was him being a little bit of a. He.

[PFT Commenter]

He.

[Big Cat]

I could say that because we lost.

[PFT Commenter]

Sometimes you got to know when to disobey orders.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to blow through that stuff.

[Big Cat]

But Sal Freich dog like that just. They're Just a fundamentally sound team that gets big hits in big moments. And yeah, they're. They were the better team.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't believe that Tang hit a home run.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He'd been ice cold.

[Big Cat]

That was another.

[PFT Commenter]

I done.

[Big Cat]

I think that was another two out one where it's just like we got out of the inner. So what are you looking at? The payrolls?

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Max]

This is just the payroll.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The brews are what bottom like brewers are. They are 14th. 14th. Oh. So they're not bottom, but the Cubs are what?

[Max]

Cubs are ninth.

[Big Cat]

Okay. But the Cubs should be way higher. Yeah, that's the thing. It's crazy. It's. It's frustrating as all hell, but. Yeah. I'm just sad that there's not more games at Wrigley. They were fun. It was gonna be. I like had it all mapped out in my head and. Yeah, 16 dudes going up to Milwaukee, getting drunk on a party bus, farting, saying, we. We. The night ended with us singing. We were just doing a sing along to Fleetwood Mac on the way home. So that's kind of where the vibes.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, which song?

[Big Cat]

We're doing Landslide.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

And then Mikey bets.

[Memes]

What?

[Big Cat]

Whenever, like there was instrumental part. Mikey Betts would. Would put us on to some porn stars that he was. He was jiving with recently.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good. That's good vibes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. So you'd be like, hey, you guys should check out this chat.

[PFT Commenter]

The problem with making that drive is back to it. There's too much stuff that you want to stop on the side of the road and check out the Cheese Castle.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The Dells.

[Big Cat]

Listen, it's nice the, the, the. The situation. I. I would do it again. I would do it again. I would absolutely do it again. But you'd hope you'd win because it's like a. You're basically putting all your chips into. Like, this is going to be the funnest night ever or this is going to be the worst night ever. And it was pretty close to the worst night ever. The Dells aren't, by the way, on the way. But that doesn't.

[PFT Commenter]

They're not.

[Big Cat]

No, they're like kind of up.

[PFT Commenter]

I still see signs for them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And I think about going there.

[Big Cat]

Dells are all awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Great Wolf Lodge.

[Big Cat]

Cruising Chubby.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a lot of stuff.

[Big Cat]

Chubby's is a great strip club.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot of stuff. I want to. I want to stop by and check.

[Big Cat]

Out and they really let you know the name.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Cruising Chubby.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it is.

[Big Cat]

Cruising. You're getting a chubby.

[PFT Commenter]

You get exactly what you pay for there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'm sorry that for the AWS and for you guys that we memes was right. It was too bad it wasn't a show night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

The payroll thing was wrong, by the way. I was looking at the 2026 season. Season.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so you.

[PFT Commenter]

So we're fifth.

[Big Cat]

You guys are fifth, and the brewers are 17th. Yeah. There's a disparity. That's credit to the Brewers. They're just a fundamentally like they do. They do more with less. And then the Cubs, they won the Central by a lot of games. They played better all season. They played better in this series. I was very happy that we did not get swept and that we pushed it to five. I thought we were going to win. That game sucks. So it goes. So it goes. All right. Should we do who's back of the week? Oh, rollback question. Rhobac.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. Who are you guys picking or rooting for in the MLB playoffs for the rest of the playoffs? Now we have four teams left.

[PFT Commenter]

I've got a future on the brewers that I put in in early August.

[Big Cat]

They could absolutely beat the Dodgers.

[Hank]

I also like Yellich. I'm rooting for Yellich.

[PFT Commenter]

So if it's Brewers, Mariners, I can't.

[Big Cat]

Root for the brewers because they. They their rival and they took out the Cubs. I think I'm going big dumper. Yeah, I'm just going big dumper. Go poo poo.

[PFT Commenter]

I would be. I would be very happy to see the Mariners win the World Series over my future.

[Big Cat]

Future. I mean, it would be. It would be cool if it were Brewers. Mariners. It's first time winner.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Out of those.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd be happy for Seattle. Happy for the dumper.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I was born in la.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We'd probably get kind of switched to the pods, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We'd probably get some, like, games where each yearo would show up. Ken Griffey Jr. Would probably show up.

[Big Cat]

Each year show up in a Jersey.

[PFT Commenter]

Randy Johnson would probably show up with a camera in his hand, a rod.

[Big Cat]

Oh, dude. You know, we'll be there. A real, like, you want to feel old moment. I was watching the game on Friday night, and they. They're like the last time the Mariners had a elimination game or something like that in the stadium, they're like 30 years ago and looked like it was A hundred years ago, and it was Randy Johnson. And I was like, yeah, that's ancient history. But I remember it vividly.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what, though? I've noticed if you watch games, especially football games on YouTube from, like, 2010 10, it looks like they were filmed in, like, the 90s. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's like. No, I remember watching these games on tv. It didn't look that bad on TV when I saw it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I saw a picture in a bar of Kaminsky park or whatever. The. The old one closed in 1990, and it was like the. The final day of. Of the park. When it closed, 1990, it looked like it was 1944.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Like, it looked like old time. Like, I was like, is this when it opened?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

No, this is when it closed. 1990.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, I just realized if the Mariners are in the World Series, they probably will have both Randy Johnson and King Griffey Jr. As MLB media photographers covering those games.

[Big Cat]

Good point, Booth. Who are you guys rooting for? Memes. You got your. Your hater. Your hater. Parl. Your hater, you know, pins that you're putting in our little voodoo doll. It's been on fire.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it worked perfectly.

[Big Cat]

I. It isn't working on Hank, but everyone else it is. Yeah.

[Max]

You need to start Switch. You. You didn't have the Patriots on your radar yet, and. Yeah, you got it. You got it.

[Memes]

His time will come.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that sounds.

[Max]

That was some.

[Big Cat]

Thought that was a threat.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, you know exactly how he did this last time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

With Mac Jones again. They get.

[Hank]

I see.

[Memes]

Get overhyped, and then Drake may.

[Big Cat]

Might be better than Mac Jones.

[Memes]

But. Yeah, but then.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but then.

[Hank]

But then they say. I don't. I don't get excited.

[Memes]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Who are you guys rooting for?

[Memes]

I'm going Mariners.

[Max]

Blue Jays.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

One of the relievers I went to high school with.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Memes]

Played.

[Max]

Played with him.

[Big Cat]

You mean the Toronto Blue Jays.

[Max]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

Because if you're not saying Toronto.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What does oldie say?

[Max]

Brendan Little.

[PFT Commenter]

Shout out.

[Max]

Brendan Little.

[Big Cat]

Shout out. Brendan Little.

[Max]

He gave her on the night, but.

[Zach]

Shot a Bernie Little.

[PFT Commenter]

But I was unnecessary there, Max.

[Max]

Yeah, I know. Well, people are gonna. I was rooting. I'm room for him.

[PFT Commenter]

You little.

[Max]

See lit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I'll probably go a Mariners as well.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Oh, last thing from the brewers game. The 50. 50 raffle at the brewers game is old school tickets. And I've never felt worse for buying $400 worth of tickets because the woman just had to stand there for, like, 10 minutes. Ripping up the tickets. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It takes a while to get them there. Yeah, for sure.

[Big Cat]

It was. Yeah. I felt bad about that. Did not win, but also felt bad.

[PFT Commenter]

But at least, you know. What, did you go multiple times?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So you know, pretty quickly if you wanted.

[Big Cat]

I was. Yeah, I was too locked in. I wasn't. I don't. I don't think I left. I left my seat, like, one time to take a piss, and I timed it so I didn't miss a single thing. It's like those elimination games.

[PFT Commenter]

You're just.

[Big Cat]

Just like. You can't leave.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Let's do who's Back of the Week. Let's wrap it up with who's Back of the Week. It's brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea. Who's Back of the Week is sponsored by Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea is a refreshing, hard iced tea made with real Brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted tea is a perfect alcohol beverage to keep the good times going all season long. Whether you're hanging out with a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or just seeing where the day takes you. Twisted Tea is there to turn your day off up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Keep it twisted. Grab a tea. Game time, stock up, and ice cold Twisted Tea today, Hank. Oh, I actually will amend a little something. I will definitely be more. I'll re. I'll be remad when I see the NLCS game one start.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know. You know how that happens.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It could be us. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, I was so tired last night. I started the day in champagne at 6am did big noon, kickoff off, drove back to Chicago, drove up to Milwaukee, drove back to Chicago. I was like, I. I'm sad, but I'm also like, I just need to go to sleep. Soon as. As soon as I see the Brewers Stadium on Monday night and the first pitch and be like, fuck, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The.

[Memes]

The.

[Big Cat]

God damn it.

[PFT Commenter]

The FOMO sets in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You're like, this was supposed to be the Cubs. Okay, Hank. Who's Back of the Week?

[PFT Commenter]

I was.

[Hank]

Back in the week is dudes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Dudes.

[Hank]

This was a. One of the most authentic, best, like, Internet videos I've seen in a long time. At the Oklahoma State game.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

It started as one dude in the bleachers. Oklahoma State was getting smoked.

[Big Cat]

Smoked.

[Hank]

No one was really in the stadium.

[Big Cat]

Oh. Actually, they might be the worst power four team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Because Wisconsin's close. But I. I feel Better that it might be with Oklahoma State.

[Hank]

And then it started. There was one guy just in an empty bleacher area, shirtless, waving his shirt around. And then another guy came up, joined him. There was two guys shirtless, waving their shirts around. Then like two or three more guys show up.

[Big Cat]

It was awesome.

[Hank]

Five guys shirtless, waving their shirts around. And then it just formed and. And any guy that was in the stadium seemed like, came up, went up in the area. And by the end, it was like a couple hundred dudes, tarps off, helicopter, waving around shirts. It was. It was flash mob one of like, you know, you can't. You can't make these moments up. And it's like it was one of just the. The best dudes rocks moments of all time.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what? This would never happen at a Taylor Swift concert. No, they.

[Big Cat]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

You won't do this, ladies.

[Big Cat]

This is so awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

You couldn't do that.

[Big Cat]

And they're so. They're dog.

[PFT Commenter]

Bet you won't do it.

[Max]

And it was.

[Hank]

It was so many people by the end.

[Big Cat]

Like, it was so natural. Yeah.

[Hank]

But yeah, I. I watched this video like 20 times yesterday.

[PFT Commenter]

It was cool. This guy's having a good time.

[Hank]

Dude, Rock.

[PFT Commenter]

Dude.

[Big Cat]

Dr. Dudes rock. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

My. Who's back of the week is airport security. I finally did it, guys. Oh, I finally did it. Your boy is now TSA PreCheck certified.

[Big Cat]

Let's go.

[PFT Commenter]

After 10 years of doing this podcast.

[Big Cat]

Fast and just hoping that you would get. There was a while you guys would get on my ts.

[PFT Commenter]

I piggybacked on your. On your TSA pre check and I. I've had clear for a long time too, so clear usually is pretty good. But then you get the. The clear and the TSA pre check combo and you can walk onto the airplane with a gun. They don't check anything that you have.

[Big Cat]

Probably shouldn't have said that.

[PFT Commenter]

Shouldn't have said that.

[Max]

I disagree with what you're saying.

[PFT Commenter]

I also did make so the way that it happened. And I've made like six appointments in the last 10 years where I've said.

[Hank]

Yeah, walk into a Staples and do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff you can do, Hank.

[Big Cat]

You know, everyone could do a lot of.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm a busy man. Okay. I've got plans ablos. But I, I've. I've canceled a few of these appointments. Not shown up to some of the appointments. I think at one point we might have had it at the barstool sports office.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I wasn't there for whatever that day was. But I was checking in for my flight to go to Baton Rouge this weekend. As I'm going through clear, the clear person's like, hey, do you want TSA pre check? It'll literally take you five minutes. And I was about two hours early for the flight. So I said, you know, this is actually the one scenario. This is what I need this exact scenario to happen to me. I'm at the airport checking in. All I have to do is, like, type in my name a couple times. So I did it. And then now I can already feel, like, a sense of superiority that's just washed over me. And I. I see the rest of the world, the. The plebes out there who don't have TSA pre check. And now I realize the way that you guys must have been looking at me for the last ten years.

[Max]

Horrible news.

[Hank]

You don't have to take your shoes off.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, before you tell me the horrible news, let me tell you what my thought was after I got it, when I, When I immediately started to feel superior to everybody else. If a guy like me is getting it at this point, there's a bubble. Yeah, there's a bubble level. And they're gonna do like a TSA pre check plus or like a platinum level, and then that's gonna be the next one that everyone's going to get into.

[Max]

So for some, I did this exact same thing like two weeks ago.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, feels good, right?

[Max]

The exact same thing. I had clear didn't have pre check. They did the whole takes five minutes. Get pre check.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

The line with clear, clear and pre check is significantly longer than the line with Jo.

[Memes]

Just clear.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it?

[Max]

I've done the past two weeks since I've gotten pre check. I wait significantly longer now, and you can't. If you have pre check, they don't let you go to the just clear line.

[Big Cat]

They say you.

[Max]

I was like, I tried to go in. They're like, no, you have pre check.

[Big Cat]

You have to go to this line. Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

So they've. They've made us pay all this money.

[Big Cat]

And do the check, and now they're doing that.

[Max]

It's like everyone who just has clear, they're trying to send the. Them to the clear end pre check line. And it's worse.

[PFT Commenter]

I should have known.

[Big Cat]

They.

[PFT Commenter]

Why would they try to make my life easier?

[Max]

Yeah, I'm checking.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, sir, would you like preaching?

[Max]

I did this exact same. I went through this exact same cycle two weeks ago. Felt awesome about it. I was like, this is Great. I'm gonna, you know, fly. And then the past two weeks, I've gone to the airport and it's still. You only have to wait like, I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

But you don't have to take your shoes off.

[Max]

You don't have to take your shoes off in regular anymore either. Yeah, that's like a. That's like a whole new thing. And there's zero line for just the clear. There's like. I mean, it's like a five, ten minute line for clear and pre check.

[Big Cat]

But there was for sure.

[Max]

It's zero line at the regular.

[PFT Commenter]

There was nobody in line.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, you can just not put in your clear check number when you book your flight.

[Max]

But it's just like on. It's just like in my United States.

[Big Cat]

No, you just. There's a. You enter it.

[PFT Commenter]

But if they have you.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Already in the system. One.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Max]

You can do that. No, but I, I always. I book all of my stuff through the United app and it's just like.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that might be different. Yeah. But like, if you're booking on like kayak. Yeah. You don't. You just don't put in. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then I'm good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, well, I'll take. I'll take the pre check for a spin next.

[Hank]

So you're gonna book. Yeah, I was gonna say then you just be booking flights to not use.

[PFT Commenter]

Pre check, which I might do.

[Max]

Well, there's a lot of airports that don't have clear, so that's what's good for pre check.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

For the airports that don't have clear. That's why I wanted to get it. Because Philly doesn't have clear.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, immediately when I got it, I. I started making jokes, like right away in front of the TSA agents and the clear agents. And I was just like, yeah. Now if anyone need me to bring some cocaine on the next flight, I got you. I'm pre check. I'm pre qualified. I'm above the line. I can do whatever I want now. So I. I do feel bad now that I'm looking at from that side that I did not have it for so long and I made you guys fly with me. Not having pre check.

[Big Cat]

No, it's. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

As a bum. But I feel good now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a bubble.

[Big Cat]

All right, my. Who's back of the week is Coach is getting fired. James Franklin fired. Penn State lost again to Northwest. Ever since Hank became a Penn State fan, they have not won a game. And their coach of 10 plus years. Got fired.

[Hank]

Yeah. End of an era. Never saw him win a game since.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys made the video. They are 03.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Losses.

[PFT Commenter]

The Phillies got booted out of the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And the we don't have to Eagles have lost twice.

[Max]

We're talking about.

[PFT Commenter]

The Birds are owing to two. Penn State's own three.

[Hank]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

And the Phillies are zero and one in series.

[Hank]

We are.

[Max]

That is nothing. Penn State has nothing to do with the city of Philadelphia.

[Hank]

Thank you for coming.

[Memes]

What state.

[PFT Commenter]

What state is Philadelphia?

[Hank]

God bless you.

[Max]

Yep. Nailed it.

[PFT Commenter]

I was surprised that it happened so fast.

[Hank]

You're welcome.

[Big Cat]

But they had to.

[PFT Commenter]

They had to. Yeah, they had. Fan base had completely turned on.

[Big Cat]

The UCLA loss was. Was as bad as bad gets. And then you lost Northwestern at home.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Andrew Allers out for the year. You had to because he's out for the year. Yeah.

[Hank]

I didn't see that.

[Big Cat]

Really tuned in. No, you. You had to because ir because they're gonna have to recruit and get like. You can't fire.

[Hank]

Where's he gonna get drafted?

[Big Cat]

I don't. I don't know. He should have left. He's gonna.

[Max]

He would have been a first round.

[Big Cat]

Pick if he should have left when Tyler and left. Yeah. I think that part has been very clear. That was. Yeah. But he. You have to fire him now because like, I mean I. I hope Wisconsin. I. I like Luke Fickle as a guy, but you gotta fire him soon.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you think about my idea? You guys just switched coaches. Wisconsin gets James Franklin.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Luke Fickle.

[Big Cat]

Not taking Luke. Yeah. But. Yeah, I was a little shocked. I was a little shocked just because he had. He had. He had survived so many times of like the rumors of him leaving or them like. But yeah, he just. It just unraveled so fast. Yeah. Three weeks. It's one thing. They showed a screenshot of him yucking it up with Nick Saban 15 days ago on game day when they had played the Whiteout.

[PFT Commenter]

They hadn't played anybody.

[Big Cat]

They had not played anybody.

[Hank]

And they just went for two in the White House.

[Big Cat]

I know. Do you think he's thinking about that now?

[Max]

Well, he should be. They still would a lot like.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, I disagree, man. If they beat Oregon at home, they don't lose. You think they're Northwestern to an 04 UCLA team? No, they're. They're feeling good about themselves. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I made the argument on pick them. I was like, I think that Oregon just beat Penn State now three times. The UCLA loss was Oregon beating Him twice. Because it was. No, it's not taking anything away from ucla, but you basically had. Your entire program was building up to the whiteout with Oregon, and you lost it in that way, to get off the mat is almost impossible. Yeah, I couldn't.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree that if they win that game, they are. They're one of the best teams in the country right now.

[Big Cat]

Brutal. Oh, man.

[PFT Commenter]

You should have gone for two. Don't be a coward.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but he's done. Done.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, who cooks or Max? Who do you want?

[Max]

Signetti.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Poor Indiana. They're so good. But if they lose Signetti, that would be tragic.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it would be.

[Big Cat]

They're so good.

[Max]

But, like, he's. He's got to be the guy.

[Big Cat]

They went. They went to Oregon and they just Google them, kick the. Out of them.

[PFT Commenter]

I love this interview that he did after the game where the lady was like, you've never won a game like this on the road. But she was talking about Indiana. And then he started just thinking about his personal accomplishments. Yeah, he's like, no, I've won a bunch of games on the road. Big games in my past. If you look it up, like, that's. Signetti is a great coach. Don't get me wrong. Awesome coach. I don't think that he has, like, Indiana in his blood. I think that if. If.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Penn State called. He's picking up the phone.

[Big Cat]

He's definitely picking up the phone. I don't know, though. He's got pretty good right now. And the Penn State is. That fan base is the best. They're going to want someone like, to the best. All right, Zach finishes off my.

[Zach]

Who's back of the week is Anthony Davis.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

NBA player Anthony Davis. A little bit backstory. When Kaisunat finishes his subathon on Twitch, he's the biggest streamer in the world.

[Memes]

Right.

[Zach]

He hogs a lot of viewership when he's currently streaming. So when he ends his subathon, many streamers go to subathoning because now the viewership has opened up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And one of my favorite pastimes this time of year is just in these subathons. They enter giveaways, so I like. Or they do giveaways, so I like to enter a bunch of giveaways to see if I can hit on them. And the streamer I was watching yesterday when I was trying to win some giveaways, I went over three. But then Anthony Davis came in. He dropped like 600 subs and then gave away $4,500 in the chat at like one o' clock in the morning.

[Memes]

Morning.

[Zach]

All time move from Anthony Davis.

[Big Cat]

That is cool.

[Zach]

Just came in for the love of the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Love that. Did you get any?

[Big Cat]

I lost.

[Zach]

I didn't win any of the giveaways. No.

[Big Cat]

That would have been so electric.

[Zach]

Just like 1am he just for the love of the game. And you were in there 10 grand in the chat.

[PFT Commenter]

What was he doing?

[Zach]

He just said what's up? And then gifted like 600 subs for like 600 people to be ad free and then donated 4,500bucks.

[Big Cat]

Did you say you were Zach from part of my take?

[Zach]

No, I just. I'm just in the chat trying to win giveaways.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What's your go to line if you're trying to winning?

[Zach]

Oh, you. You just sub up. You just like gift give five subs. Get in. In the running. It's like a sweepstakes kind of.

[Big Cat]

What. How often are you doing this when they.

[Zach]

When the.

[Big Cat]

Pretty. Pretty regularly.

[Zach]

I try to hit on the giveaways.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

It's like a little entry for a lot of maybe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Gifts.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Zach]

Giveaways are fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That is fun.

[PFT Commenter]

I know that Anthony Davis went live like that.

[Zach]

He. That's the thing. He wasn't live. He just like just happened to pop in the. I guess he's just lurking on Twitch. Popped in and just don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's. Oh, so he was just like in the chat.

[Zach]

He's like another guy that was just in chat and just decided to bless the chat with more giveaways.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very cool.

[Big Cat]

Shout out Anthony Davis.

[Zach]

Big shot Anthony Davis.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Max, while you were taking a piss, I was saying that the like sadness and anger I felt on Saturday night is going to come back on Monday night when I see the Dodgers and Brewers playing. Do you agree? No. You're done. I'm.

[Max]

I'm just gonna pretend like that that doesn't exist.

[Big Cat]

How are you feeling, Max, Overall? Because Thursday was tough.

[Max]

I was too harsh on the Eagles.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Say that.

[PFT Commenter]

What about the union?

[Max]

The union got the union. Fans were mad. Big mad. The union. I don't give a. About the union. I'll stand on business with that.

[Big Cat]

I love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you still fucking meme?

[Max]

Jets are pretty bad. That's the thing. Like that. That's where I went too far.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

But I. I was in the mo. In the moment. You're. I'm so angry. I'm not thinking rational.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. In the moment you were like I. I think it. Sports sucks. Even though I just won a Super Bowl. Like winning a Super bowl isn't fun because I. I had this night. Do you still think that way?

[Max]

No, it was just. I was so angry at that moment. I forgot what it. What happiness in sports was like. And now that I'm a couple days removed, it's like winning the super bowl, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the. The removal of days definitely needed.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You had to have it happen all at once. It was just all show night. On a show night.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

I mean, the Eagles were super banged up on Thursday night. It was a bad game.

[Big Cat]

But did anyone here piss you off? Actually, extra. We were. I feel like we were walking on eggshells.

[Max]

I feel like everyone was pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I did listen back to when we were making the jokes about the snack closet and you were. You just like, you're a prick. So good. Hank.

[Max]

I. I didn't look. I wasn't obviously looking at anything. And then I just saw Hank was just smiling ear to ear the whole time. The entire.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he loved it that I was trying so hard not to laugh. But I kept looking over at Hank, Hank and Hank, like, every time you would get. It was full. Every time Max would go over the top and say something extremely depressing, Hank would just try like that, laughing. And then that. That makes me laugh that Hank's laughing at Max being like, I'd rather not be on earth. See? He's such a prick.

[Max]

Prick.

[PFT Commenter]

I love him, though. Yeah.

[Max]

Yeah, I love him.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, Hank, I got a question for you.

[Hank]

Yes. Pst.

[PFT Commenter]

Who are you rooting for tomorrow night?

[Hank]

I am going to bet on the Bears.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, good.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

That's surprising to me.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Why? Well, he likes plus money. Plus the plus signs. Yeah.

[Hank]

When push comes to stuff, I like the plus signs.

[Big Cat]

I also.

[Hank]

I've said it time and time again. And in the Cubs, like, it's. It's another example. And like, Chicago is fun when their teams are good. Like the Bears going on a run would be fun.

[Big Cat]

It would be an interesting game because it feels like at least for the Bears. I don't know where you're at. Pft. But like the Bears, if they can find a way to win this game, then I'll maybe start. Maybe thinking to start thinking about yoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

Now that sounds like it's above a 6 out of 10.

[Big Cat]

No, because you hear me, I said I'll start. Start maybe thinking about. Start thinking about eoffs still two steps away. And if they lose, it's going to be like, let's see what happens. It also depends on how I. I'm very nervous about our defense. Our defense is not good. I think Bill's going to run for a lot of yards. I just expect and hope that our offense off of bye week can come out firing.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm worried about what Ben Johnson has put into the playbook in a bye week week. I feel like he's had a lot of time to think about this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And our defense is not great. It's. It's played really good at times, but it's not a great defense. But I, I agree. I think that Bill and Jaden I think is going to run and I think Erz is going to have a big night too.

[Hank]

Let's get some score predictions.

[PFT Commenter]

I got 27, 16 commies.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's kind of a asking.

[Max]

It's a mini whomping.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, mini whopping for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Seven points at the end. At the very end.

[Big Cat]

What.

[PFT Commenter]

20, 2016. And then we, we added it. Yeah. Time.

[Big Cat]

Bears 31. Commanders 30. Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

It be fun.

[Max]

Hail Mary.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh Hail Mary.

[Big Cat]

Listen, I've actually part of. Part of therapy.

[PFT Commenter]

I've.

[Big Cat]

I've learned that the Hail Mary actually if I could go back, I wouldn't change. Change it because I was talking this through. Hear me out songs through when I was on with Waddle and Sylvie Last week on ESPN 1000 sometimes we were, we were saying the hypothetical of like what happens if the Bears win that game. They probably don't fall off a cliff like they fell off a cliff because remember the Cardinals game after and then the Patriots and then it was just like a loss after loss after loss loss. They would maybe find a way to like. I would say maybe like seven or eight wins. They ended with five. So I'm just saying, you know, the Commander's game would be six, two more wins. Ibrahoose might not get fired. So yeah. That Hail Mary got the Bears Ben Johnson. I think how that's. It's the domino.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's great that you're going to therapy. I think everybody should give therapy a chance. But I also think it's hilarious that you talk to your therapist about the Hail Mary.

[Big Cat]

No, I was. My therapist was Waddle and Silver. Okay. It's that part. Yeah.

[Max]

That you were saying that I was like, can I go to therapy to talk about something?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, you can, you could, you can. No, it was Waddle and Sylvie. We were doing the hypothetical.

[Memes]

Would they just tell you not to watch sports?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, probably.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they probably talk you out.

[Big Cat]

They probably Just be like, it doesn't matter. You can't control it. Blah, blah, blah. That's. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Max]

I would need my therapist. Be like, an Eagles fan.

[Big Cat]

No. We could just be your therapist.

[PFT Commenter]

No, W. That's what WIP exists for.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's exactly what it is. A radio show that I do a hit on every week. And we literally had this discussion where it's like, Sylvie asked me. He's like, would you. Or Waddle asked me, would you trade? Would you. Would if you go back in time, would you have the Hail Mary not happen? And I thought about it and I was like, actually, I don't. Knowing everything we know now, I don't think so. Because they probably would have done just enough to keep Eber flu.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And that would have sucked.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It would have been a different season.

[Big Cat]

Right. Right. So thank you. You're welcome. Yeah. This feels good.

[PFT Commenter]

Miracles happen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We're gonna be live on a Hail Mary.

[PFT Commenter]

Would be awesome, though, if the game ended. Another Hail Mary.

[Hank]

Yeah. It would.

[Big Cat]

Memes smile.

[PFT Commenter]

Either way. Either way. It'd be an incredible moment.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Double Hail Mary.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you mean, double Hail Mary?

[Memes]

So it succeeds, then there's a flag, and then you do it again.

[Big Cat]

Why are we, under these assumptions saying the Bears can't have a Hail Mary?

[Memes]

I'm just saying a double hammer.

[PFT Commenter]

No, because he's.

[Max]

My first question was trying to double.

[PFT Commenter]

Doink the Hail Mary when you said.

[Max]

That you were going to win by one.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. No. I don't know how we got to 31. 30 score predictions, sir.

[PFT Commenter]

Pointless.

[Big Cat]

I say numbers and then three. Oh, wow.

[Max]

That counts. That counts.

[Hank]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

I go 15.

[Big Cat]

Good job. We're going to be strong on the part of my take YouTube from the studio, so tune in.

[Max]

That was awesome.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I hope you win this one. I hope you win this one. 33. I'm not going to.

[Memes]

People tagging me in that fish. Winning for the first time.

[Big Cat]

What fish? Humpy. Yeah. I missed it. Oh, oh, oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Humpy one before me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that fish.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the fish has autism. I do. I think that's like Humpy's thing.

[Memes]

Me too.

[Big Cat]

Tattoo bat. Do you know what tattoo you're going to get?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I haven't decided. I think this one's going to be like a more of a spur of the moment, fun one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you know they're wearing the black uniforms?

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

It's the only game this season that the commanders are wearing the black uniforms, and it just happens to be the uniforms they wore for the Hail Mary game last year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that seems.

[PFT Commenter]

Seems mean.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. See, but again, I'm happy the Hail Mary happened.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's good.

[Big Cat]

My reasoning, it's good. It's the.

[PFT Commenter]

It's called turned a negative into a positive.

[Big Cat]

I'll go.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm happy it happened, too. 2276.

[Big Cat]

I'll go 52 memes. You're gonna get it. What was yours?

[Hank]

22.

[Big Cat]

Oh, 24.

[Memes]

Wait.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we had.

[Memes]

We had double 22s there.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, invalid.

[Big Cat]

Invalid.

[Hank]

All right, I'll take 24.

[Big Cat]

So, Hank, you gotta pick a new number. Who picked 22? Jack, Jack, Jack. You got to pick a new number.

[Max]

You have to pick a new number.

[Memes]

Jack.

[PFT Commenter]

42.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

This would be a way. What a way to. For memes to get it on valid disqualification. 94. 94. Sorry, memes. I don't think you're ever gonna get it.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys.

[Memes]

Congrats to Humpy.