NFL Week 6 Picks and Preview, Max Has The Worst Night Possible With Eagles & Phillies, Commanders Center Tyler Biadasz + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Summary

Pardon My Take – NFL Week 6 Picks and Preview, Max Has The Worst Night Possible With Eagles & Phillies, Commanders Center Tyler Biadasz + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Date: October 10, 2025
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)

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Episode Overview

This emotionally-charged episode captures the highs and (largely) lows of a wild sports night alongside the usual NFL Week 6 preview. The crew reacts in real time to the Cubs and Phillies’ crucial playoff games, dives into an Eagles disaster, debates baseball heartbreaks, and previews the NFL slate. They are joined by Commanders center Tyler Biadasz for a fun interview before closing out with the always-chaotic Fyre Fest of the Week segment.

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Main Topics & Timestamps

1. Opening & Setting the Scene (03:00–12:00)
2. MLB Playoffs: Yankees, Cubs, Phillies Disaster (03:52–18:00)
3. Max’s Meltdown: Phillies & Eagles Collapse (12:46–31:56)
4. Giants/Eagles TNF Reaction & Cam Scadaboo Mania (21:12–36:32)
5. NFL Week 6 Preview (46:56–108:32)
6. Fantasy Minute (101:40–102:54)
7. Tyler Biadasz Interview (110:12–136:51)
8. Fyre Fest of the Week (137:38–159:19)

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1. Opening & Setting the Scene

Topics Covered:

• Explosive sports night featuring MLB and NFL Equinox
• Big Cat reports from Cubs playoff games at Wrigley
• Teed up: Week 6 NFL preview, MLB heartbreaks, special guest interview, and Fyre Fest

Tone:
Casual, high stakes, a little chaotic—anticipation for both celebration and disaster.

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2. MLB Playoffs: Yankees Lose, Cubs Force Game 5, Phillies Heartbreak

Key Segments:

• Yankees eliminated by Blue Jays

  • Extended banter about postseason coverage and the dynamic with David Ortiz, Jeter, and A-Rod on set
  • Ortiz’s “Yankees lose!” chant and reactions (04:02)
  • “You could tell it pissed Derek Jeter off more. It embarrassed A-Rod, correct. But Derek Jeter was like, ‘Why am I subjecting myself to this right now?’” – PFT (04:07)

• Blue Jays love, Vlad Jr. quote:

  • “I like to kill the Yankees. I would never sign with the Yankees, not even dead.” – Vlad Jr. via PFT (06:21)

• Cubs win back-to-back, force Game 5

  • Big Cat details the Wrigley Field atmosphere, chants, and getting in the zone alone with hot dogs (07:15–11:21)
  • “The pressure is back on the Brewers because Freddy Peralta went tonight... One of the best moments, Hank was there too. Freddy, Freddy…” – Big Cat (08:28)
  • Organic fan chants as a unifying moment, “They can tell their grandkids about that.” – PFT (09:52)
  • Cubs’ starting pitching woes, bullpen praise.
  • Reminiscing about the Wrigley experience; packing up stories with a clear local love.

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3. Max’s Meltdown: Phillies & Eagles Double Disasters

This segment is the heart and soul of the episode, as producer Max’s teams both break his spirit.

Phillies’ “Buckner” Loss & Real-Life Reaction

• Phillies lose on a little-league-style error:
  • “It’s the worst loss in playoff history since Bill Buckner.” – Max (13:47)
  • Emotional distance: “It's just blank nothingness. I walked into the darkest place I could find. I just wanted to be in a super dark room.” – Max (19:09)
  • Blame, pain, and Philly sports agony—as real as sports podcasting gets.
• Group tries to lighten the mood but keeps hitting the pain:
  • “He should have gone to first, you think?” – Big Cat (13:50)
  • “That is a play you’d be shocked to see on a little league field.” – Max (14:01)
• Max’s “physical” responses:
  • Punches lockers, smashes Wiffle ball bats (18:21)
  • Retires his “pigtails” for good after the loss (16:44)
  • “I can’t look at—I’m looking straight down this entire podcast. I will not be making eye contact.” (16:58)

Max Turns Into the Joker: Eagles’ Disastrous TNF Loss

• Eagles lose badly as Max stays in a spiral:
  • “All of Philadelphia sports died today. There’s no team to be excited about in all of Philadelphia. That's a fact that happened tonight.” – Max (23:24)
  • “Max was turning into the Joker.” – PFT (21:11)
  • Max's laughter turns bitter: "This is hilarious. This is hilarious." (21:36)
• PFT and Big Cat gently empathize, egg on, and roast Max in (almost) equal measure.

Memorable Quotes:

• “The pain of losing is 50 billion times worse than the joy of winning.” – Max (30:41)
• “You just got double-banged tonight.” – PFT (31:48)
• “Today was bad... I can’t believe he threw it home. Why did he throw it home?” – Max (42:08)

Raw, honest, funny, and deeply sports-depressive.

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4. Giants/Eagles TNF Reaction & Cam Scadaboo Mania

Key Points:

• Cam Scadaboo and Jackson Dart (Giants) get a ton of love for pure football fun
  • “The New York Giants are fun as fuck!” – PFT (24:19)
  • “Cam Scadaboo is so much fun. He was just running through people's faces... flexing on dudes.” – PFT (24:51)
• Dable’s “meathead” energy for Giants
  • “Watching Dable just bask in the fact that his job might be saved... by some meatheads.” – PFT (36:11)
• Questions around Jalen Hurts, Eagles' missing links, and Philly fans’ boiling point
• The tone is giddy (Giants), morose (Eagles/Max), with lots of friendly roasting

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5. NFL Week 6 Preview

Format: Classic PMT—banter, key stats, obscure storylines, and spread picks.
Headings/Segments:

• London Game Woes: Complaints over London game + clock change (48:06)
  • “I hate that we have a London game the weekend we change the clocks.” – Big Cat (48:11)
• Key Games:
  • Broncos vs Jets: big on “business trip energy” and Woody Johnson’s ego (49:18–54:29)
  • Cardinals/Colts: Kyler’s turf toe, Call of Duty beta, Gannon’s strange fines, Jason Whitlock’s bizarre discourse (54:42–59:23)
  • Patriots/Saints: Hank’s ride-or-die faith, trolling “white-out” drama (64:58–70:00)
  • Browns/Steelers: 21 years since Browns won at Pittsburgh in regular season, Steelers after bye stat (71:47–75:33)
  • Cowboys/Panthers and the “Meow Mix” charity bet, Dax’s dominance over “bad” teams, Coach Schottenheimer’s secret tattoos (76:04–79:53)
  • Seahawks/Jaguars: Jags’ franchise-defining Monday night win, “letdown spot” theory, hungry dog (81:16–83:11)
  • Ravens/Rams: Defensive collapse stats, Rams road record, Puka’s receiving pace (84:04–87:26)
  • More: Raiders/Titans, Bengals/Packers, Bucs/49ers (“Baker didn’t change, the narrative did”), and a lively Fantasy Minute with Jerry O’Connell (110:12–102:54)
• Fantasy Minute: Absolute chaos, inside jokes, and off-brand sleeper picks (“Spend all your money on this tight end Taylor on the Jets.” – Jerry O’Connell, 101:49)
• TD Parlay: Panel’s picks, goading each other over last week’s failures (105:05, etc.)

Memorable Quotes:

• “Dak is 76% straight up against bad teams.” – Big Cat (78:09)
• “The misery of the painful losses aren't worth the joy of the ultimate championships, and that's not true.” – PFT, comforting Max (41:39)
• “The New York Giants are fun as fuck. It's weird, isn't it?” – PFT (24:19)

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6. Interview: Tyler Biadasz (Washington Commanders Center)

(110:12–136:51)

• Chunky Soup Sponsorship: Childhood dreams, soup talk, and NFL partnerships
  • “Is this the dream sponsorship, like, walk me through… you rep the best soup possible. You're like, 'Yes, sign me up.'” – Big Cat (110:22)
• Life as a Center:
  • Fun with pre-snap responsibilities, two-minute drill exhaustion, and “couch doctor” pass setting at bars
  • The eternal search for the Badgers’ “big boys” and offensive line legacy (121:30–123:08)
• Jaden Daniels: Personality, leadership, dancing and trash talk on the field
• Wisconsin Football Identity: Grit and grind, classic O-line production, and how to get back to their roots

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7. Fyre Fest of the Week

(137:38–159:19)

• Max’s Hater Parlay: Producer Memes reveals a “hater parlay” rooting for Phillies and Cubs to lose—to Max and Big Cat’s horror and disgust.
• Hank’s “We Are” Tweet:
  • Receives (unwarranted) backlash for “we are” tweet in reference to Patriots’ white uniforms (142:17)
  • “I don’t even understand how that could be racist. Like, we are all white. We’re not all white. What does that even mean?” – Hank (142:24)
• PFT’s Couch Problem: Needs a “couch doctor” as his couch is stuck in his office; solution: get the Cream Team to destroy it.
• Zach’s Comfort Food Confession:
  • Admits to a monstrous order for comfort (“I got four Baconator fries, the nuggets were buy 10 get 10 free...”) (155:04)
  • Panel debates fast food cycles and diet struggles.

Memorable Moment:

• “They just kept talking about how we can’t talk about it, and I was just like, yeah, I was gonna bring it up Tuesday, but…” – Hank, gleefully ratting out Zach’s meal (154:22)
• “Do you think maybe, just maybe, not four orders of fries?” – PFT (157:23)

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8. Lightning Round & Closer

• Panel rapid-fires through the legendary “lottery ball” segment, banter over predictions, pre-coping, and more diet/food banter (160:48 onward).
• Running jokes and love/friendship affirmations to close ("Love you guys." – PFT & Hank, 162:19)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “It’s the worst loss in playoff history since Bill Buckner.” – Max (13:47)
• “The pain of losing is 50 billion times worse than the joy of winning.” – Max (30:41)
• “You got double-banged tonight. Yeah, this is a double bang.” – PFT (31:48)
• “The New York Giants are fun as fuck. It's weird, isn't it?” – PFT (24:19)
• “If Frank (Fleming) had the night that I had had tonight, he would legitimately be dead. Like, that is not hyperbole.” – Max (32:40)
• “I wanted the Phillies to win so Max didn’t have to go to a wedding this weekend.” – Big Cat (17:11)
• “The misery of the painful losses aren’t worth the joy of the ultimate championships, and that’s not true.” – PFT (41:39)
• "He should have gone to first, you think?" – Big Cat (13:50)
• "I walked into the darkest place I could find. I just wanted to be in a super dark room." – Max (19:09)
• “You just got double-banged tonight.” – PFT (31:48)
• “Is this the dream sponsorship, like, walk me through… you rep the best soup possible. You're like, 'Yes, sign me up.'” – Big Cat to Tyler Biadasz (110:22)

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

This episode embodies the wild emotional range of sports fandom: joy, pain, rage, and gallows humor, all candidly laid bare. Max’s double heartbreak becomes a touchstone, while PMT’s staple blend of stats, degenerate gambling chatter, and boyish nostalgia rounds out the NFL preview. The interview with Biadasz offers genuine football insight and personality, and the Fyre Fest segment—equal parts roast, support system, and confession—shows PMT at its most personal.

If you missed this one, you missed a legendary therapy session for sports fans everywhere.

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Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Hey, football guy.

[Big Cat]

Patino.

[PFT Commenter]

Aw, Harry.

[Hank]

Martin might take.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Martin.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, October 10th, and PFT. What a night of sports.

[PFT Commenter]

We just had it, had a little bit of everything, man. It was an incredible night of sports. Just a lot of drama, a lot of positive energy, a lot of heartbreak as well. Big Cat, congratulations. Let me be the first to congratulate Big Cat. Still one more on the Cubs.

[Memes]

Still one more.

[Big Cat]

Still one more.

[PFT Commenter]

Going back to Milwaukee. You guys, you guys packed a suit tonight. You said, hey, we're not done yet. We're gonna make a trip up north.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And what a, what a dong fest you went to tonight.

[Big Cat]

We pounded them. We, we, we'll talk about the Cubs game. I was there. It was electric. I got some anecdotes, some, some, some great stories, but I, I missed everything that happened here. Where should we start?

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want to start with football or. Because a lot happened in football or do you want to start in baseball? Because a lot happened in baseball, too.

[Big Cat]

Let's start with baseball. The Yankees lose.

[PFT Commenter]

The Yankees lose.

[Big Cat]

Yankee. That clip of Laddie and David Ortiz going back and forth.

[PFT Commenter]

Do it one more time. Yankees lose. And then you had Derek Jeter just sitting there.

[Big Cat]

And a rod.

[PFT Commenter]

And a rod. But you could tell it pissed. I think it pissed Derek Jeter off more.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It embarrassed a rod. Correct. But Derek Jeter was like, why the. Am I subjecting myself to this right now?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

I saw someone say that. Like Jericho Jeter and a rod. Kind of the first time they laughed with it because they knew, you know, it's part of the show. And then David Ortiz did it so many times to the point where they got mad again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Which I loved.

[Big Cat]

Right. They went through the wall.

[Hank]

He just kept doing.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's what I think. And you know, I know they're kind of technically our co workers at Fox Sports. I don't know how you can have chemistry on a show like that if you're rubbing your co workers face in a heartbreaking playoff loss. Yeah. I don't think that that's how you build a good sports show.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's kind of goes against what we stand for here. Part of my take.

[Big Cat]

Bad camaraderie.

[PFT Commenter]

Bad camaraderie.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So, yeah, the Yankees lose. They're going to bring back Aaron Boon. He said he expects to be back. The Jays are hot. The Jays are awesome. Vladdy. I saw it. There was a stat out there. It was like four or five guys on the Yankees combined, like Volpe Grisham. I think it was Jazz chisholm. It was four guys, me, five guys who had 10 hits, and Vlad had nine himself. They just pounded him. That was awesome.

[Hank]

Aaron Judge hit that home run.

[Big Cat]

Listen, that one. I said. I said it. If they don't win that series, it is a footnote. And it is absolutely a footnote. I think Aaron Judge finished over.500 in the playoffs, hitting.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And I kept on hitting.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't. I think. I feel like there was a guy in the Phillies Dodgers series that was even higher than that.

[Big Cat]

Who was that?

[PFT Commenter]

I was that. Was that Enrique?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that Kike? I don't know, but it's. It's crazy. He had a great series, and Vladdy had an awesome series, too. And guess what? The Jays. The Blue Jays?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the Toronto Blue Jays.

[PFT Commenter]

They're getting. They're getting Boba Shet back, I think, in the next round. So the Blue Jays are. They're. They're gonna be a handful, and they also. They're fun.

[Big Cat]

And they also get to watch the other AL series go to five. The Tigers win game four. Javi Baez, Fucking love him forever. It's going back to Seattle, which is. I mean, that's such a huge advantage for the Jays because now, you know, they got an elimination game on Friday. They play game one on Sunday, and that series is going to be fun. This will be fun to watch a game five.

[PFT Commenter]

I got one more quote from Blatty Jr. Oh, yeah, this goes back to 2022. He was doing an interview. They asked him about playing against the Yankees, and he said, I. I like to play in New York. I like to kill the Yankees. I would never sign with the Yankees, not even dead.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

There's some good hate there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I. I also love the.

[Big Cat]

From birth.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I. I love the scuba mask that he's wearing as he's, like, pouring beers on his face. He's got the snorkel. He's got the snorkel up there just so he can breathe while he's chugging. Yep, that was. That looked like a very fun scene. I think the Yankees should. Personally, they should extend Aaron Boone.

[Big Cat]

We've.

[PFT Commenter]

We've said that on this podcast, but I feel like you need a steady hand, and I don't really know what Aaron Boone does with that team besides just, like, choose. He just chews stuff. Yeah. He's like a dog.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If you leave him alone and there's something in front of him, he will pick it up in his mouth and he will chew it. But outside of that, I don't know. I don't know what his, what his day to day is.

[Big Cat]

Bubbles are huge.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So I. And then I guess we can talk about the Cubs right now. They forced game five. It was electric at Wrigley Wednesday night. Thursday night, I was there for both of them. It was just awesome. The Cubs bats woke up. Matthew Boyd redeemed himself from Saturday's performance, gave us some strong innings. The bullpen, Nico, just keep. Nico is another guy. He's hitting like.400. Ian Hap, who has not been good. But that's why you give a guy like Ian Happ a long leash because he hits a huge three run homer. The Cubs just, they score. They scored more runs later on in the game tonight, but they are just a first inning team.

[PFT Commenter]

Didn't Ian Happ also hit three, three balls that went to the warning track.

[Big Cat]

He should have had three home runs tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

Awesome night from him.

[Big Cat]

It was crazy. Everyone was hitting. Matt Shaw finally hit. I actually said to Titus and Eddie and my friend Dave, who I was at the game with, I was like, at some point, Matt Shaw had not gotten a hit in the playoffs, so his average was zero. I was like, do you even want to get a hit at this point? Because then it's just going to be like 10 cents.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because if some, if somebody sees your stat line, it's like, oh, he batted zero in the playoffs. You, you assume maybe he's a pinch hitter. Yeah, maybe he got in like maybe for one game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's it.

[Big Cat]

Right. This is his first game.

[PFT Commenter]

But he, but if it's like a weird number that's very low, then you're.

[Big Cat]

Like, oh, no, he balled his. He, he, he has grinded his ass off. Like, you know, woke up in this game pitching. Like I said, the bullpen has been awesome. Outside of a Kittridge mistake, the bullpen has been absolute nails the last two games. And all the pressure is back on the brewers because Freddie Peralta went tonight. And I got to say, the one of the best moments, Hank was there too. We weren't sitting together, but in the first inning there was just a completely organic chant that started for the whole stadium that was just Freddy, Freddy. And like those moments where everyone's doing it and it's like not planned at all. And it just, it continued for like four straight innings where I was actually practicing my Freddy Chant. When we, when, when we were pitching, I was like, I got to stay warm for the next inning because when he comes back out, we're going to have to say Freddie again.

[PFT Commenter]

Shout out to the absolute legend because there's a. There probably a group of guys out there that knows that it's them that started the entire Freddy Chan and they can say for the rest of their lives, yeah, that was me. I chant started.

[Big Cat]

It was somewhere like under the overhang on the first or third base side. So those guys probably like the 200 level third base side, probably halfway between home and third base. Whoever was there, you started the Freddy Chan. I could tell you that was where it came from. And the whole crowd had it and it was fucking awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

They're going to tell their kids about that one day. Yeah, they can tell their grandkids about that. They're going to. They're going to have a blast retelling that.

[Big Cat]

And I Listen. Game 5 is going to be like, the Cubs don't really have pitching. Kate Horton can't come back unless someone gets hurt. Which I was actually. I don't want anyone to get hurt. But I was also hoping that Ben Brown, he was warming up. I was hoping he'd come in and do the Rodney Dangerfield on my arm. So that would have made Milwaukee so mad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Kate Horton could have started game five. So we don't have pitching. They don't really have pitching. It's going to be just grab your nuts. Yeah. Who wants it more? I'm just happy we're going back. The season's continuing. It's been so much fun.

[Hank]

I also appreciated the Green Bay sucks. Like later in the game.

[PFT Commenter]

The game was kind of over.

[Hank]

It was. It was five nothing, six nothing. And it was turned into Green Bay sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And then the. Oh, special shout out. Renee, who sold me the 5050 ticket. It was her birthday today. Oh, happy birthday. So I was nervous about this game. I put my kids to bed and it was like, I looked at the clock, it was like 7:05 and the game started at 8. I just went to Wrigley. I ate two hot dogs just sitting by myself in my seats for. I was probably there for like 45 minutes before the game.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to soak it all in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Hey. I was just like, I. I don't know what to do right now.

[PFT Commenter]

A couple hot dogs to like calm your senses a little bit. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Younger me would have gone to the bar, but, like, I was like, I had to put my kids to bed. So I'M I'm just going to do that and then I'm just going to go to Wrigley. And it was the 8 o' clock start is tests of a man of my age, but it was fucking awesome, Hank. It was electric.

[Hank]

Right then when it was 50, I just checked.

[Big Cat]

I didn't either. That's okay.

[Hank]

Sorry.

[Big Cat]

I mean, listen, we don't. We don't win. We're 4 and 1 right now in the playoffs at home, and the one loss is when I won the 50 50. So.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Awesome. Awesome crowd. Just popping, like, from the first pitch. Just always into it, standing the whole time.

[Hank]

8:00 clock on a Thursday in Chicago.

[Tyler Biotish]

People were.

[Big Cat]

Is.

[Hank]

People were.

[Big Cat]

It was buzzing, blasted in the crowd. You could just feel it right from the first pitch. Like people are fucking tuned up. So it was awesome. You guys are streaming.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. Myself, Max, Che, Chief, Nikki, Smokes, Connor. There are a lot of guys there tonight. Shout out to everybody that was in the cave. A lot of sports going on. So we. We watched your game. Yeah, when it was on, uh, we also watched the football game, which was incredible. I don't know if you read anything about the football game tonight.

[Big Cat]

I saw some skit cam scatters.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a cam scatter boo clinic.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if we want to.

[PFT Commenter]

Get to that first or if we want to.

[Big Cat]

Max, you decide.

[Max]

You can do whatever the fuck you want.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Would it be better if we eased into it by talking about the last Phillies Dodgers game?

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. You won. You won game three. That was a great game. Schwarber.

[PFT Commenter]

Schwarber.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That was so sad.

[Max]

11 last night, lost tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

That was so sad when they sent Clayton Kershaw out there and they were just like, go burn some outs for us. Yeah. And he would. He was so thankful to get out of that inning. Yeah, that was a tough watch for him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he kept talking about him like he was a dog. Like an old dog. It's like. And one last round for Old Yeller out there.

[Big Cat]

Out there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So I don't really know how to. How to get into this. I don't either. I do want to be. I want to be sensitive to Max's emotional state right now. It was a tough game. The Phillies fought their dicks off tonight. They didn't really score that many runs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the.

[Max]

The arms fought. The arms fought.

[Hank]

For sure.

[PFT Commenter]

The arms fought. The defense fought.

[Big Cat]

No, what.

[PFT Commenter]

What are you talking about? Okay, I'm trying, I'm trying, I'm trying. What? Oh, okay. Obviously until the end. Yes.

[Big Cat]

But.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Up until that point. Right.

[Big Cat]

That was the worst way to lose again.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Max]

Yes. It's the worst way. It's the worst possible way to lose. It's Bill. It's Bill Buckner.

[Big Cat]

He.

[Max]

It's the worst. It's the worst loss in playoff history since Bill Buckner.

[Big Cat]

He should have gone to first, you think? I do think so, yes.

[PFT Commenter]

JT Real muto. He thought too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He was. The screenshot of him pointing, like, throw to the first base. That.

[Max]

That is a play that you would be shocked to see on a little league field.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

And I feel bad for the guy. Like, I swear to God, I feel. I truly feel bad for him. He. He did his job as a pitcher and then. I've never seen a more panicked situation in my life. Like, he. He didn't know what. He didn't know what to do. And I can't imagine how he's feeling right now. The entire city of Philadelphia, it's. It's weird. Half of the city of Philadelphia wants him dead, and then half of the city of Philadelphia, it's knows that it's so bad that they feel bad for him because it's.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's that bad.

[Max]

It's that bad.

[PFT Commenter]

They know that the other half that bad is. Is so mad.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Max]

Like, I. Yeah. No, I can't imagine what.

[Memes]

That.

[Max]

I know how bad I feel right now. I cannot imagine how bad Orion Kirk is right now.

[Big Cat]

How. How bad do you feel right now?

[Max]

I mean, it's the. It's the worst sports day of my entire. It's the worst sports day of my life.

[Big Cat]

Is it because of the Flyers too?

[Max]

I don't give a fuck about the Flyers.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a very bad Hank to lose series.

[Hank]

I was at the Cubs game. I was at the bar before I watched the Phillies walk in the tying run. So it was 1:1. And then I went into the game, which was each. It was a strike. That was a strike.

[Max]

That was a strike. And the fact that the umpire went up after the game and apologized for not calling to strike. Yeah.

[Hank]

Such. I didn't have sound until I was watching from bar and from. From my vantage point, I was like, that looks like a strike. But I didn't. Wasn't playing too close attention went to the game. And then in the game I was like, oh, old school. They got the scoreboard. Yeah, I'll just keep track of the scoreboard. And then, you know, it went from one one to one And I'm like. And then seeing, seeing how, how they can't happen.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't, you can't convey how it happened.

[Max]

No.

[Hank]

And our, you know, it's like usually it was so bad that our group text was just completely silent. There was no, there was, that was.

[Max]

Something that you would see on a. Like us playing barstool after dark.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Memes would make that error in 16 inch softball.

[Max]

I don't, I don't even know if he would.

[Big Cat]

Tom Lay.

[Max]

He was, I think he would at least throw to first. He was, I think he would at least throw to first.

[PFT Commenter]

He's trying to get the lead runner with two outs. Yeah. It made no sense. And, and Max was fighting his dick off on the street. Max pulled out all the stops. So Max went overalls tonight. And then he waited for what, the seventh inning, eighth inning after they tied it up, the pigtails came out.

[Big Cat]

And the pigtails. How did the pigtails do?

[Max]

They pigtails retired Forever.

[Big Cat]

Forever.

[Max]

Forever. Why forever?

[Big Cat]

You look so cute.

[Max]

Forever. Never again.

[Big Cat]

Never.

[Max]

Never again.

[Big Cat]

Ever.

[Max]

Ever.

[Big Cat]

That's a long me.

[Max]

Say it one more time.

[Big Cat]

That's a long time. Max, you're not even looking at us.

[Max]

I know. I can't look at. I, I, I will. I, I am looking straight down this entire podcast. I will not be making eye contact.

[PFT Commenter]

Single one. I was, I was supporting the Phillies. I was rooting for the Phillies tonight. I wanted to see Max keep fighting.

[Big Cat]

I wanted the Phillies to win so Max didn't have to go to a wedding this weekend.

[Max]

I'm going to get three hours of sleep tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

I wanted the Phillies to win. And then when they lost. I do want to apologize for the look that I gave you after they lost. But in fairness to me, pull up the look.

[Max]

No, the look, the look, the look is fair. I'm not, you know, I was rooting for. I'm not upset with the look. The look was fair. The look was fair. I mean, it's a, it was a truly, truly shocking, shocking way to get eliminated from the, from postseason.

[PFT Commenter]

I had to take a peek.

[Max]

Shocking way.

[PFT Commenter]

I had to see what Max, what he looked like in that moment. Because sometimes when Max gets such or.

[Max]

He gets my job to also do.

[PFT Commenter]

This, he gets like he pull it up. He can torch his body and like goes crisscross applesauce and hands over the. I want to see what he looked like. And I, I couldn't help but crack a smile in that moment, but I did.

[Hank]

No, that.

[Max]

I'm not, I'm not. That was that's fair. That was fair.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Max just kind of, you know, he went through it for a while. Fortunately, in the office, we've got a lot of really, like, easy stuff to smash against other stuff that doesn't cause any permanent damage. So Max took out his anger on some Wiffle ball bats. And that's fine.

[Max]

I also punched the. Out of one of those lockers. And I'm for sure it's not.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[Max]

It'll be. It's just a bruise. It'll. It'll be.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it'll. It'll be a bruise. It'll be okay. There's a look.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, I just had.

[PFT Commenter]

I had to see because he was like covering his ears and he has legs crossed up and he had the pigtails and the overalls. But yeah, Max. Max fought his dick off tonight and.

[Big Cat]

Then fought so hard in every game.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the Eagles game started.

[Big Cat]

Well, I have a question about. So that happens, Max, what happens right after. In. In. In the cave, in your head and in the world. What. What went through?

[Max]

Nothing. It is just blank nothingness. I walked into Tears. The closet.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

I walk the.

[Big Cat]

That's where you film the video.

[Max]

This. No, I walked into this snack pantry.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Just out of, like, out of. That's just muscle memory.

[Max]

Like. No, just like, that was the darkest place that I could find. I just wanted to be in a dark and like a super dark room.

[Big Cat]

Did you.

[PFT Commenter]

Shut up.

[Max]

Whatever. You're. You're a fucking prick.

[PFT Commenter]

Who?

[Big Cat]

You. Oh, it was a joke. Muscle memory. That was a funny joke.

[Max]

And then I walked into the Mostly Sports room because that was dark.

[PFT Commenter]

How long was it for?

[Max]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Or you could tell him he's a prick too.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, I just want to know when he came out of the closet.

[Big Cat]

Ferris Fairy. That's a similar joke.

[Max]

I mean, I'm.

[Big Cat]

I just.

[Max]

I'm just not gonna continue to answer the question.

[Big Cat]

Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay, so then you walked in the Mostly Sports.

[Max]

I just wanted to be in a dark room. And then I was like, maybe someone from Mostly Sports is gonna walk in here. I don't want them. I don't want them to see me. And then I was gonna come in here. Of course Memes was in here. So that was the last place I was gonna go. So then I went into the. The Wake Up Mincey studio. I thought I would be safe in the Wake Up Mincey studio. And I just laid down there for 40 minutes.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably.

[Max]

No, felt like 40 minutes. It was probably like 15.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

And I. I don't. I didn't even have my phone. I just. I just. Actually, no, I did get my. I don't fucking know. I don't fucking know. I obviously got my phone because I took that video.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you. Did you, like, watch replays?

[Max]

No, I watched nothing read recaps. I watched nothing recaps. I'm not going to. I might. I might not open my cell phone for the rest of this weekend.

[Big Cat]

That'd be fair.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What about talk about the Eagles? Well, I have a question because I got a text from PFT during. During all this, and he just texted me, said, Max is. I think Max is turning into the Joker.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What was that?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, so after this, the period of darkness that. That he spent, he came out and watched the Eagles game, and things started to go very, very poorly for the Eagles in the football game. And Max was sitting in the back row and he just started laughing and he just started going, this is hilarious. This is hilarious. But he was like getting angrier as he kept saying it, like there was a fumble. I think it saqu. No, fumbled.

[Max]

The. The. The. The hilarious was when it was just an easy kick return and Tank Bigsby just dropped it out of bounds at the two yard line.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And you. You were just like, everything. Everything bad is happening all at once. And his reaction was just like. He started laughing and going, hilarious. This is hilarious. But he was getting angrier and angrier. And then I think there might have been some smashing after that. Kind of got some of the rage out of your system a little bit.

[Big Cat]

You smashed a couple bats.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

I mean, I don't know. I was very quiet and, you know, trying to bottle my emoji. I was really trying to bottle my emotions so I didn't have another incident. And I.

[Big Cat]

That was Hank Chuckle.

[Max]

Yeah, I know.

[Big Cat]

He's full on laugh.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Max]

And then once there, There was. Jalen Hurts threw a pick in the red zone. They Giants scored another touchdown to make a fucking 34 to 17. Then there's a fumble on a kick return. Jalen Hurts starts driving again. And AJ Dillon just fucking fumbles again. And it was like just a truly hilarious sequence of events for Philadelphia sports losing 34 to 17 to Jackson dart with nobody at receiver, zero people at receiver. And he could just move the ball at will. And Jalen Hurts looks like the worst fucking quarterback in the NFL.

[Big Cat]

Oh, don't say that.

[Hank]

I'll quickly say hand up. I. I did kind of roast the Giants on this podcast on. On Monday. I Said they're bad teams.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they might be good.

[Hank]

They might.

[Max]

No, the Eagles just fucking suck. The Eagles fucking suck.

[PFT Commenter]

Second half was. Was tough for the Eagles.

[Max]

They sucked. They're actually bad. All of Philadelphia sports died today. There is no team to be excited about in all of Philadelphia. That's a fact that happened tonight. It went from a whole lot of promise coming into this day. And all dead. Every single one, dead. Zero. I'm. I am. I am fucking memes.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, don't say that. That's so mean. Don't put that mean to yourself.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't put that on a quote card, whatever you do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, don't.

[PFT Commenter]

I am fucking memes.

[Big Cat]

You're not a meme.

[PFT Commenter]

I am.

[Big Cat]

Was there a common there?

[Max]

I don't give a. Do whatever you want to do.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So opening his phone.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

He's not opening his phone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's not opening his phone.

[Max]

What?

[Big Cat]

Cam Scatter Boo.

[PFT Commenter]

He was. So I was gonna say it was a coming out party for Cam Scatter Boo. It was actually. This was rush week for Cam Scaboo and Jackson Dart.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The. The bromance that they've got going on right now is the. It's honestly puzzling to me because I don't think I've ever experienced this in my entire life, but the New York Giants are fun as fuck. Yeah. It's weird, isn't it? Like, with those uniforms and everything you know about the Giants, you expect them to occasionally pop up and be a good football team, but in a very boring way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And this is a team that, like, I. I want to watch more Giants football games. I can't wait to watch more New York Giants. And I've never thought that in my entire life.

[Big Cat]

Cam Scatter Boo is so much fun.

[PFT Commenter]

He's so much fun. So he was just running through people's faces. He was just flexing on dudes, just running, running to and through people. Not running. He goes out of his way to, like, turn back and run out of safety. And the. The duo that they have with Cam Scaboo and Jackson Dart, it's pure chaos when you watch them play, but it's so fun. And whatever Cam Scatter's got is contagious. And Jackson Dart catches it over the course of a game and he starts to run like Cam Scaboo, but he does it in a much more hilarious, skinny way. Like, there was this one play that Jackson Dart had where he scrambled, and he's very mobile. He's quick. Yeah. And he got to the outside and he was running up the sidelines, and he was like, you know what? That I'm not going to go out of bounds. I'm going to just jump head first into a safety. And have you ever seen the. The Simpsons meme of Ralph Wiggum diving through the plate glass window head first? That's what Jackson Dart did, like, to a defense, like, targeted him with his helmet, jumped at him.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, that's a clip right there. It was pretty great. And at one point, Dark got taken out of the game because he was. He had a concussion.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And I saw Russell Wilson came in, and then Dable just started yelling at the. The. The medical examiner being like, get the. Get Jackson Dart back out here.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So Jackson Dart goes into the tent, and then Russell Wilson goes on the field. He was so ready to be on that field. He was. He was on the field before Dart was off it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he threw one pass to Jalen Hyatt, and he short armed it by, I'm gonna guess, 15 yards. It was like the worst pass I've ever seen in the NFL. And right after it hit the ground, you see day ball on the sidelines, turn around, go up to the doctor and start screaming at the doctor, like, what the are you doing? Get this guy back in the game. I can't handle this. And so then. Then Dart is still in the blue tent. And then Scatter Boo says that I'm gonna go over and see what's up with it. And so it's Scatter Boo runs into the tent and to check on Dart. And then you see, like, four other people go in there. And the doctor comes out. He's like, I don't. I don't know what's going on there. Jackson Dart just keeps saying it's some hoes in this tent. I don't know what.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what.

[PFT Commenter]

What that means, but it doesn't sound good. And eventually, Cam Scatter Boo and Dart get out of the tent together. I think Scaboo cleared Jackson Dart. He said he. He's not concussed, dude, bro. Straight. Let's get him back in the game. And then obviously, D on the sidelines, like, yep, put him back in.

[Big Cat]

Get him back in asap.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't stand another second of Russ Wilson being out there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And there was one very funny clip, too, where they. They cut up to the owner's booth, and Mr. Mara was staring down at the field at, like, the most fun part of the game for the Giants. It's like, every time Scaboo got the ball. He was running people over. He was doing backflips in the end zone. And Mara's looking down, peering like an old dean, like, wondering what he's let his football team become. Yeah, he's like, what These guys are.

[Big Cat]

These boys are. Are being reckless.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, these youngsters are a bit flashy for my liking. I. I thought I implemented no taunting policies to curb this sort of behavior. Oh, I'll have a word with them afterwards. But, yeah, it's. It was so fun to watch. And the Giants, they were. They were the better team by far. Their defense was great in the second half. I don't know what the play calling is for the Philadelphia Eagles. That's definitely a big part.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So Jalen hurts. Max, you said Jalen hurts sucks.

[Max]

You want me to say it again?

[Big Cat]

No. Well, I'm asking.

[PFT Commenter]

He, He, He.

[Max]

He is a bad quarterback right now.

[Big Cat]

All right, so you put in the. Right now there. That's good. So he can figure it out.

[Max]

We'll see. This team sucks.

[Big Cat]

Is it. Is it. Remember we had the conversation the other day about.

[Max]

Yeah, sure, you're right.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no.

[Big Cat]

I'm not saying that. But Kevin Patullo, it feels like it's like Kellen Moore last year was a very good play caller. And then. Is it the play calling? Is it?

[Memes]

Yep.

[Max]

It doesn't help. Yes. Jalen Hurts just missed a wide open. Fucking AJ Brown on this pick. That should have been a pick six first. Yeah, whatever.

[Hank]

Where's A.J.

[Big Cat]

Brown? Let me see him. Oh, man, the signs.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that was. I think that interception might have been to Dotson.

[Tyler Biotish]

It.

[Max]

It was, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, but you're saying A.J. brown was wide open. Yes, he was.

[Max]

That's what I'm saying.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he was wide open on the play. If he had gone to him. The best offensive series that the Eagles had by far tonight was from the four yard line. They ran four tush pushes in a row.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I saw a lot of people, like, I saw a bunch of tweets being like, ban the tush push.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Big Cat]

This is. This isn't football.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that radicalized a lot of people. That moment did like the casual. I don't love the tush push, but it's unfair to ban it. Those people saw the four in a row and radicalized, and now they're going to be like, this play. Get out of the. Because there were false starts on. I think almost all of them, too. Yeah, but it was. It was kind of fun to watch. Just. We're going to run the same thing over and over again, and the Giants can't stop us. But in the second half, yeah, the Eagles offense, they stunk. They were, they were very, very bad.

[Max]

And the defense sucked, too.

[Big Cat]

It.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Big Cat]

Well, you guys were missing Jalen Carter and Quinon Mitchell.

[Max]

No, doesn't matter. They still fucking sucked.

[Hank]

You guys are at the top of the NFC East.

[PFT Commenter]

You're.

[Max]

You're the super bowl champions.

[Hank]

You're the returning super bowl champions. You're the top NFC East. If, if you could have said, you know, going into this year, like after, after six games, you're going to be at the top NFC east.

[Max]

And losing to the Giants, you know.

[Big Cat]

Jackson, dart, Giants might be good.

[Max]

The Giants fucking suck.

[PFT Commenter]

They're at the top of the NFC east. For now.

[Big Cat]

Hank, you get a little bit of break now. Mini buy.

[Max]

I. I want a permanent buy. I want a permanent buy. I want to stop watching sports.

[Big Cat]

You want a permanent buy.

[Max]

This is what everyone keeps saying. You just want a Super Bowl. You just want a Super Bowl. The pain of losing is 50 billion times worse than the joy of winning. It's. It's not even close. So, like, I don't give a fuck that we just won a Super bowl, but right now, doing pain of losing.

[Hank]

The Phillies.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you're, you're mixing your Phillies.

[Max]

But this, but the Eagles are dead.

[Big Cat]

The Eagles are. Eagles suck.

[Max]

You guys didn't watch this game tonight. They fucking suck.

[PFT Commenter]

They were.

[Big Cat]

I understand, but you are like, this is Phillies. If the Phillies had been eliminated on Wednesday and this game happened on Thursday, I think you would obviously be in the same mental state of like, I want a permanent buy from all the sports. But you'd be able to separate them a little bit more. It was bang bang.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

I don't think you guys understand how fucking bad they were tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

No, they looked.

[Max]

Any team in the NFL would have, would have fucking smoked.

[Hank]

I think if you guys lost The Dodgers like 4 to 1 and just didn't like. I think it's the way you lost.

[Max]

It's. It's an unbelievable way to, to get eliminated from the postseason. It's an unbelievable way.

[PFT Commenter]

You got double bang tonight. Yeah, this is a double bang.

[Big Cat]

Don't forget about the Flyers.

[PFT Commenter]

And the Flyers too. Triple bang.

[Max]

Don't care.

[PFT Commenter]

Did the union win tonight?

[Max]

I don't know now. The union won some cup the other day. I don't. I, I honestly don't know what cup they won, but they won something. And everyone was like, at least we have the Union.

[Big Cat]

What, the union or mls.

[Max]

Some shield, right?

[Big Cat]

Well, you got a shield, Max. That's pretty cool.

[Max]

The union.

[Hank]

Damn. That's scab. You're scab.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's. That's some Confederacy right there. Oh. But, yeah, Max, you were diagnosed tonight with a disease that I didn't know existed. We hadn't. We had a name for it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Early onset Fleming. Fleming. Yeah.

[Max]

But if Frank had the night that I had had tonight, he would legitimately be dead. Like, that is not. That is not hyperbole. He would be dead. He has never had that night.

[PFT Commenter]

Frank said, max has flamingia, which I've never heard before.

[Max]

Frank does that when the Mets lose in July.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Mikey Betts said, 100% diagnosis. And Frank said, look at the videos.

[Big Cat]

So Frank is basically watching Max videos, being like, man, this guy needs to chill out. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

There's some other stuff that came out about the Eagles afterwards.

[Max]

Some more drama, whether they just fucking suck.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, that was part of it.

[Hank]

Or Diane Rossini.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a pretty big part of it.

[Max]

She's the fucking worst.

[Big Cat]

You are memes.

[PFT Commenter]

This is Mike Garofalo. After the game, he said A.J. brown was asked about the meeting with Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley this week, repeatedly. Says he didn't recall any meeting. When told Hertz and Barkley confirmed it, he says, you'd have to talk to them. Oh, because the. The meeting that allegedly happened was Jalen Hurts and Saquon talking with AJ about, like, let's all get on the same page. Let's. Let's gel as a team. Let's work together, get over our differences, and we can all eat. And, yeah, AJ was just like, I don't. I don't recall that meeting.

[Max]

Saquon also all of a sudden sucks. Now that no one's talking about that.

[Big Cat]

Let'S talk about it.

[Max]

He's horrible. He's been horrible all year.

[Big Cat]

What is that?

[Hank]

Nobody hurdled that guy.

[Max]

The whole team sucks. Everyone sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

Wrong. Dallas Goddard looked good tonight, okay?

[Max]

He's on the last year of his contract. He's fucking gone.

[Big Cat]

Howie. Dude. Done.

[Max]

Everything's done. Blow it up. Start every single team from ground zero. Every single one of them.

[PFT Commenter]

Sirianni's earned the benefit of the doubt. He's a good coach.

[Big Cat]

Also, the union just won a shield.

[Max]

I'm done with the union.

[Big Cat]

Can't blow up. The union did.

[PFT Commenter]

The union will stand strong.

[Big Cat]

They got a fucking shield.

[PFT Commenter]

Must stand strong.

[Big Cat]

Won the shield, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

There were also some articles that came out today about Cam Scatterboo and this guy, he is exactly who you think he is.

[Big Cat]

I saw some of these quotes. So good.

[PFT Commenter]

His buddies on the team were talking about, like, what it's like getting to meet him. One guy said, the first. First time I met him, we didn't. We said, like, three words, and he just headbutted me. And then we just became friends after that. One of the tight ends on the team was talking about their first time at a special teams meeting. Coach asked, what's our job? Our job is to play with speed, get off the ball. And this animal just goes, physicality. He starts screaming, physicality. Apparently he just yells all the time. He's. He's exactly what this league needs right now. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Gutter Oli said, he's genuinely an idiot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's. He's a crayon eater. Yeah. The best. It also is very funny because I don't know how, like, if you watch any college football last year, you're like, this guy's the man.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How did he fall that far in the drag? He's the fucking man.

[PFT Commenter]

I just didn't think that the NFL didn't think that Cam Scatter Boo could run over people in the league like he did in college. And it turns out he can and he will. I think he could run over just about anybody. It was. Yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun. And watching Dable just, like, bask in the fact that his job might be saved.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is so funny, too, because.

[Big Cat]

By some meatheads.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. By some meatheads.

[Big Cat]

And now I even did it for.

[PFT Commenter]

Him, and he's now, like, trying to identify with the meatheads. It's almost like Jackson dart is his Jordan. Yeah. Because after the game, he. He was talking to the media, and he hit him with a 6, 7 and started, like, moving. He's, like, trying to speak Zoomer.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, yeah. Jackson's gonna love this. Hey, Jackson, look at this clip. I said six, seven.

[Big Cat]

It's so fucking good. It's so good. Max, can we do anything to cheer you up?

[Max]

End the show.

[Big Cat]

Oh, come on.

[Max]

Just.

[Big Cat]

Let's.

[PFT Commenter]

Just.

[Big Cat]

Let's.

[Max]

This is a good show.

[Big Cat]

Let's.

[Max]

Let's go home. Let me go edit this.

[Tyler Biotish]

And let's.

[Memes]

Let's.

[Zach]

Let's be done.

[Big Cat]

Big cat rip, Sister Jean.

[Hank]

By the way, what are you guys doing this weekend?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to Baton Rouge. Gonna Punk is gonna play at Fred's on Friday night. Gonna be so much fun.

[Big Cat]

I got a game five on Saturday. All my focus is on that.

[Hank]

I'm chilling. I got a nice. I don't have much planned. Can. Just relax.

[PFT Commenter]

You gonna watch baseball?

[Hank]

Watching baseball?

[Big Cat]

Why'd you ask?

[Hank]

Just, you know, just trying to end. Wrap up the show for Max.

[Big Cat]

Ask anyone else.

[Hank]

Zach.

[Zach]

Probably Battlefield 6.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Nice memes. What are you up to about the beta?

[Hank]

Beta?

[Max]

I'm happy to go to the wedding. Fuck all this shit.

[PFT Commenter]

Where is it?

[Max]

It's in Connecticut. I'm happy to go.

[Big Cat]

What time's your.

[Max]

I don't want to see any of you for 48 hours. Or any single person close to Chicago.

[PFT Commenter]

That's fair.

[Big Cat]

What. What time's your flight?

[Max]

I have done nothing to prepare for this trip because I wasn't going to go if we already talked about that. I have to do so much memes.

[PFT Commenter]

What are you up to, big dog?

[Memes]

I'm gonna watch college football. Do you want me to edit the show?

[Max]

No, I will edit the show. I will do my job.

[Big Cat]

No, you can have mem.

[Max]

I will edit the show. I will edit the show.

[Big Cat]

Meme. Sorry your hater parlay didn't win.

[Memes]

It's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Max]

I'm sure he had a backup one that was just Philly.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a tough one.

[Big Cat]

Did you have a backup one that was just Philly?

[Memes]

No, I. I cashed out.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, nice.

[Memes]

Yeah, I actually. I actually won one.

[Big Cat]

Money.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Even you couldn't go through with it.

[Memes]

No, that was devastating.

[PFT Commenter]

I got some. I have some stats about. About the Eagles. Max, you might want to take your headphones off. I'm not saying this to rub it.

[Big Cat]

Oh, keep on the headphones. Come on. We'll finish right now.

[PFT Commenter]

The Eagles, through six weeks are now minus one in point differential. They've been out gained every single game this year. They are the second super bowl champion to be outgained in yardage in each of their first five games to start the next season.

[Big Cat]

Even Zach went like on that one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's. Things are not. Not outstanding right now in Philadelphia. And when Max says that they stink, I. I would still say that. The Eagles have the bones of a very good football team. And they can be very good. All they need is for their guys to believe in them. Nfc. They need Philly.

[Big Cat]

Nfc. Beast is back.

[PFT Commenter]

The Beast is back full.

[Big Cat]

I mean, Cowboys are frisky. Giants are good. Eagles are super bowl champs.

[PFT Commenter]

Commanders.

[Big Cat]

Commanders are good. Like nfc, Beast.

[PFT Commenter]

Nfc, beast.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's gotta feel good. Max. Max.

[PFT Commenter]

He doesn't have the headphones on.

[Big Cat]

Maybe you have Any final questions for Max?

[Hank]

I don't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's tense.

[PFT Commenter]

It's tense in here. It's good that. That Hank is facing away from Max right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know.

[PFT Commenter]

Max hasn't looked up a single time, and I want. I also want to give credit to Max. Max, he.

[Max]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

He realized that he was in a very volatile state tonight, so he did things like removed himself from situations where he would be around others or cameras. He's not making eye contact with us because he knows that that's a trigger.

[Big Cat]

We need, like, a weighted blanket.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He needs a thunder shirt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. How bad was it?

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, he. Max was overall pretty good. He had a few outbursts where he got overalls. It was overalls pretty good. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Are the overalls retired?

[Max]

Overalls won a Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

So the overall overalls are not retired. The pigtails. A billion, billion percent retired.

[Big Cat]

Max, can we just finish with this? You tonight sucked. You got a great life. You just won a Super Bowl. You got a great life. You got a ton of friends. Everyone loves you. I genuinely love you. I say that to you all the time. I love you. You're great at your job. You got a great life.

[Memes]

Yep.

[Max]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. I'm just trying to.

[PFT Commenter]

We care about you, Max.

[Max]

Thank you. Thank you, guys. It's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And you.

[Max]

I will be okay.

[PFT Commenter]

When you had your headphones.

[Big Cat]

You will.

[PFT Commenter]

When you had your headphones off, I was saying that you did a good job regulating yourself.

[Big Cat]

You work your ass off, and it's. Listen, it sucks having to watch your teams lose on live stream.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's not fun. That's not a fun experience. And you. You. You are willing and able to do it. So just we got to, like. Like, put in maybe the video of you doing. Drinking out of your. Your boot. That was. That was peak Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. On top of the moon. And when you say, like, the. The misery of the painful losses aren't worth the joy of. Of the ultimate championships, and that's not true. Yeah, that's not true.

[Big Cat]

You had so much fun in New Orleans. I don't.

[Max]

I don't know. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

This.

[Max]

Today was bad.

[Big Cat]

You got to hang out with Big Dom.

[Max]

Today was bad.

[Big Cat]

Think about. Think about how good 2018 Villanova was.

[Hank]

I just can't.

[Max]

I just can't. I can't believe he threw it home. Why did he throw it home?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, why?

[Max]

It was. It was right there.

[Hank]

It was coming up next thing.

[Tyler Biotish]

Not.

[Max]

Not the top of the order. I mean, the top of the order sucks. So it wouldn't. It doesn't even matter who they were gonna lose, that they were gonna lose that game anyway.

[Big Cat]

It's just the way.

[Max]

The way that you lost is, like, so embarrassing.

[Big Cat]

Like, if you lose that game, like, Shohei just, like, pisses on one. It's like, what are you gonna do?

[Max]

Shohei was one for.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he was bad.

[Max]

22 with, like 12 k's.

[Big Cat]

He looked lost. This is. I just don't know how you go home. Oh, he knew it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a. That's a tough shot, him hanging his head on the mound.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's just like he. He had him easily at first.

[Max]

JT just pointing it first as he's.

[PFT Commenter]

Throwing it at his face and then pajas or whatever. He didn't touch home when he first ran home. He had to turn around and go back. He did. He did.

[Max]

Go get it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he. No, he did eventually, but, like, JT ran over.

[Big Cat]

He's the catcher.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's just pointing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, dude, what are you fucking doing?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Oh, man.

[Max]

Just throw it to first base. Like, if he overthrew first base, that's. That would be one.

[Big Cat]

He made the right play. He just didn't execute. He made the wrong play, and he didn't execute the wrong play as well.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you got Tanner key.

[Max]

Oh, the pitching.

[Memes]

Just.

[Max]

Don'T say Tanner McKee.

[PFT Commenter]

You got Tanner McKee.

[Tyler Biotish]

Stop it.

[PFT Commenter]

Does that make you happy?

[Big Cat]

No.

[Max]

Oh, that's an. That's an. That's an asshole thing to say.

[Big Cat]

You got.

[Max]

You got Marcus Mariota.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a great backup. I love him.

[Big Cat]

Jalen hurts will figure it out, Max. You know that's a fact. Like, the Eagles are bad right now.

[PFT Commenter]

They. He.

[Big Cat]

They will be. They will bounce back. They're too good of a team to.

[Max]

Not, I don't know, two years ago they didn't bounce back.

[Big Cat]

Okay, this.

[Max]

This could just be.

[Big Cat]

But they're better than they were two years ago.

[Max]

You don't know that.

[Big Cat]

Well, I'm saying, talent wise, you don't know that. I'm pretty sure they are. They just won a Super bowl and the roster is pretty similar.

[Max]

So the coaching. Coaching sucks. Kevin Petullo is just not. I mean, it's the same thing. It's the same thing. We just don't have an offensive coordinator who can. Who can call plays. And our quarterback is just not playing a good quarterback right now. He's just not.

[PFT Commenter]

What percentage of Philadelphia sports fans do you think are going to listen to sports podcasts tomorrow.

[Big Cat]

None.

[Max]

Zero.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Max]

If any of them do, they're sick. They're. They're disgusting.

[Big Cat]

Give it to him.

[Max]

I'm talking to you people, right? If any Phillies fan are listening to me right now, I'm telling you, you're.

[PFT Commenter]

Sick.

[Big Cat]

You'Re perverted, you're demented. You got something wrong with you Flamingia. Yeah. All right, let's do so the rest of the show we taped earlier in the day so we'll be a little bit different spirits. Let's do our week six picks in preview and then we got an interview in fyre fest. Okay, before we get to Week 6 picks and preview, DraftKings NFL fans, what's your favorite touchdown? There's over a hundred years of TDs to pick from. For me, it's the next one. Because with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL, every touchdown could bring you closer to cashing in. DraftKings Sportsbook delivers the unmatched intensity NFL right to your fingertips. From first touchdown score to anytime TD props or the thrill of live in game betting. Every snap is loaded with opportunity. Or we will have our TD parlay at the end of weeks. Six picks and preview. I'll give you a little hint of what I'm going I'm going for the revenge pick. I'm going to go with the revenge pick and RTD parlay. I'm going to put a Monroe St. Brown in there. Oh yeah, we're going to get revenge for last week. So here's the best part. Bet just $5 and if your bet wins, you'll get $200 in bonus bets instantly. Your team hitting pay dirt pays out to you. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE to turn five bucks into $200 in bonus bets. If your bet wins in partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours.

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[Big Cat]

Week 6 picks in preview is brought to you by Uber Eats. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats, reminding fans that if football coincidentally makes you hungry, you can get game day deals on wings, burgers, beers, chips, and more all season long, all on UberEats. I'll say this, last week when we were Talking about our UberEats, someone in this room said they were going to make us nachos, and someone in this room did not.

[Max]

I had a tough Sunday.

[Big Cat]

Okay, well, are we getting nachos? Are we getting the Uber Eats nachos? Where you're going to get UberEats. Not only can you get delivery from all the restaurants, but you can also get groceries delivered. That's the best part about UberEats. Are we delivering the groceries for the nachos and we're getting max nachos if.

[Max]

The Phillies make the game five, that's guarantee. That's guaranteed.

[Big Cat]

Okay. That's a guarantee. That's.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he said guarantee. He said it's a guarantee if the.

[Hank]

Game five would be Saturday.

[Max]

Correct. But that means that you'd be in a bad mood. I wouldn't have to try. Yeah, got it.

[Big Cat]

There's a nacho contingency. All right. You love being able to get all your personal favorite game day foods delivered on Uber Eats so that you never miss a play. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals all season long, only on UberEats. All right, boys, week six. I don't want to say it.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't say it. No, I. I thought about this this morning. I was like, it's about that time of year where Big Cat.

[Big Cat]

You don't know what I'm gonna say.

[PFT Commenter]

Where Big Cat says it for the first time and then I get mad at.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to. I'm going to say it for the. For the listeners. I have to say it. I hate that we have a London game the fucking weekend that we change the clocks.

[PFT Commenter]

It's the worst.

[Big Cat]

It is the worst. I'm sorry, you didn't want me to say it. I agree. Changing our clocks on Saturday and then having to get up early for the 8:30 game, it sucks. Do you not agree?

[PFT Commenter]

No. You actually have to wake up at like, it's pretty much midnight because you watch Roger Goodell climb up Big Ben and he pulls the little hand all the way around. Everybody claps and they give it up for him. And then you get depressed. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So I'm sorry, but I had to say it because I don't want the Bills to like, miss, you know, the marathon or miss, you know, some meeting that they have because they forgot to change their clocks. Okay. You ready, Hank? Hell yeah. I can't wait to hear about the hungry dog this week.

[Hank]

Hell yeah.

[Big Cat]

The whole, whole, whole crew should ride.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Let's start though with the London game. Oh, by the way, here's a little, little fun note. Well, so we have Vikings and Texans on by. Did you know that through the first five weeks the NFC is in 18 and nine against the spread in their 27 games versus the AFC?

[PFT Commenter]

I did not know that. NFC battle for some conference pride.

[Big Cat]

Yes. So NFC is it right now?

[PFT Commenter]

All right, LeBron or not, Lamar Jackson isn't holding up his end of the bargain. Yes, that's the problem.

[Big Cat]

That's fair. Broncos, The Jets, jets plus seven and a half over under is 43 and a half. Here's another one that stunned me because we. I think on this show have. It might be the Jake Marsh effect. The Lunder. Did you know that in international games have been 52 of them, 26 and 26 over under.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't know that exactly.

[Big Cat]

Even so, this is the tie break.

[PFT Commenter]

Because we remember the stinky ones, the ones where the grass is wet, it looks like it's been grown out for soccer and, and no points are scored. There's interceptions galore. Yeah, we remember those ones. This one is going to be interesting because the last time the jets went over there, they fired their coach because Woody Johnson, he's got a lot of friends over in England. If he gets embarrassed around his friends, he will take drastic measures. I don't think that Aaron Glenn's in danger being fired. I don't think that he is. I know that memes goes back and forth. I would be. I would be shocked if he was fired.

[Big Cat]

Memes.

[Memes]

I'd be shocked after this week if he was fired.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but you want him fired.

[Memes]

No, only if he goes oh, and 17. I just don't think you could bring someone back if they can't figure out how to win one football game.

[Big Cat]

I think that Aaron Glenn at least knows that they're 05 because he said we know exactly where we're at. We're not hiding from the fact. Yes, we're 0 and 5. We understand that. We understand that we have a lot of work to do. We're not running from that all. So he's.

[PFT Commenter]

He.

[Big Cat]

The news has gotten to him that.

[PFT Commenter]

He'S owing five memes. I have an insult stat. I. I don't know if you want to hear it. It's not directed to you, but I think it's interesting to bring up on the show. You can opt out of the stat if you want.

[Big Cat]

Would you like to opt out?

[Memes]

No. Let's hear it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. The stat is looking back at Robert Salah's last 17 games as coach for the Jets. They had the best defense in the NFL in that 17 game span.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And since that time period, they have the worst defense in the NFL. Overall, last place, 32nd.

[Memes]

How was the defense the season he got fired?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm talking about the games.

[Memes]

I know, but before. No, no, no, no, no. The games he was coaching.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

The defense of the last season leading.

[Big Cat]

Up to him getting not good. Not good is what you're going at.

[PFT Commenter]

The last few games.

[Memes]

But overall, overall, I know what you're saying. His brother tweeted that out.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Oh, his brother.

[PFT Commenter]

Respect.

[Big Cat]

Very funny. That's big time respect.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I am my brother's keeper.

[PFT Commenter]

How bad were the last few games?

[Memes]

They couldn't stop the run and now it's just, it's essentially piled up to this point where you still have the same guys from that defense who now still can't play defense.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Big Cat]

Is the quote, I am my brother's keeper.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not my brother's keeper.

[Big Cat]

I'm not my brother's keeper.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Zach, can I see your tattoo real quick?

[Zach]

I believe the quote is, I'm double layered. It is my brother's keeper as a quote.

[Big Cat]

Are you sure?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Cassie's had to.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What does it say?

[Zach]

It just. It's my. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What does yours say?

[Zach]

Mine says my brother's keeper.

[Big Cat]

Ah, so you are.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, so that might be the quote.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There we go. Shout out to Nick.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that like Cain and Abel?

[Zach]

Is it biblical? I believe there is like a loose biblical tie.

[Big Cat]

People always forget about Seth.

[PFT Commenter]

They do.

[Big Cat]

It's fucking bullshit. It's just right there. This is a big, like, I think the Broncos are going to win. This is a big test for the Broncos and the fact that they went. Had a, I would say the defining win in the Sean Payton Bonix era against Eagles on Sunday. They actually did travel right from Philadelphia, which I like.

[PFT Commenter]

I would call it signature win.

[Big Cat]

Signature win. How do they respond to the signature wind? You know, you gotta. You gotta beat the jets and you gotta beat them pretty strongly here. Yeah, the jets are bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see how Sean Payton's approaching this week? This is the very definition of a business trip.

[Big Cat]

Okay?

[PFT Commenter]

When. When coaches are always like, business trip. It's a business trip. This is a business trip. They're doing the exact same thing. That they do when they're in Denver on the same days. No sightseeing allowed.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Because Sean Payton, they. They asked him about, like, other times he's gone on the trip. He said, one time, Jeremy Shockey tried to get everybody's passport and take the team to Amsterdam on an off day. Oh. So we put the kibosh on that. That I. They. They should have been allowed to go to Amsterdam.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they should have.

[PFT Commenter]

Jeremy Shockey asks you, hey, can we go to Amsterdam? You say, yes, absolutely. You want to see how that one plays out? But they're doing, like, the exact same schedule over there. They went over early, but so did the Jets.

[Big Cat]

Jets went on Monday.

[PFT Commenter]

Jets went on Monday. The Broncos went early in the week, too. I do think that the Broncos should handle business over there. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But a lot of points, the Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

You just can't get blown out in front of Woody Johnson's friends.

[Big Cat]

No. I have a way to attack this game. You ready for this? If the jets are losing by, let's say, two scores, Justin Fields this season stats by quarter. First quarter, 114 yards, one touchdown. Second quarter, 173 yards, zero touchdowns. Third quarter, 169 yards, zero touchdowns. Fourth quarter, 300 yards, three touchdowns.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a closer.

[Big Cat]

I think that if the jets are getting blown out, we need to bet live. Bet overs for Justin Fields going into the fourth quarter.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Anyone like that strategy?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm into that. I. I would. I would be fine. With the jets starting to rod and then putting Justin Fields in just in the fourth quarter. That's what I'm hearing right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The closer. No, yeah, I'm down for that 100%. We'll.

[Big Cat]

We'll monitor that. All right. Next game, Cardinals at Colts. Cardinals are plus seven, Kyler Murray. So the over under is 46 and a half. Kyler Murray actually is a pretty good against a spread quarterback as a dog on the road. So he's 33. Actually, this just is a dog. He's 33 and 18 against the spread as a dog in all six of his NFL seasons. Actually, the best record as a dog in the last six years.

[PFT Commenter]

So he should be allowed to wear the Mike Fix jersey.

[Big Cat]

He should be allowed to wear the Mike Vick jersey. I'm wondering. So the culture awesome. The culture great. I'm wondering where the head of the Arizona Cardinals is, because we had Jonathan Gannon getting fined pushing a player.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the team find him.

[Big Cat]

The team find him. $100,000. It was the first time, I think a coach has been fined since Bruce Arians a few years ago. Got fined or like, hitting someone in the head or something.

[PFT Commenter]

Did they not find Andy Reid for bumping his stomach up on Travis Kelsey this year? Not.

[Big Cat]

They did not.

[PFT Commenter]

Not protecting Travis Kelsey. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Kyler Murray has a foot injury. Zach, what is call of duty?

[Zach]

BO7 beta, called Black Ops 7, is the newest Call of Duty title from Treyarch. The Beta is currently out, which is like a preview of what the full title will be.

[Big Cat]

Can you play the Beta?

[PFT Commenter]

You can?

[Zach]

Yes, sir.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a limited.

[Big Cat]

Tyler Murray could be playing the beta.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he is playing the Beta.

[Zach]

He's probably on the game.

[PFT Commenter]

He might on and off the field. Yeah, he. The. The foot injury actually does concern me a little bit because it's a toe, and I've learned a lot about turf toe this year.

[Big Cat]

Not good.

[PFT Commenter]

And turf toe is not good. Even if it's not really that extreme of a case, it's probably not easy to push off that foot. I. Yeah. I'm gonna have a hard time trusting Kyler as a dog in this one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, well, Jacoby Brissette still there. Still around.

[PFT Commenter]

Alive.

[Big Cat]

He is still alive. Marvin Harrison said he has full trust in Jacoby, so that has to make you feel good. That's really what else he would say. That would be crazy. If he came out and he's like, yeah, you know what? We're our backup quarterback. It's gonna suck.

[PFT Commenter]

We're. I. So when we Talked about the DiMarcado dropping the ball on the 1 inch line last week, I went back and I read some interviews with. With Gannon.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he. He said that he actually did show the entire team the clip of A.D. mitchell the week before, being like, do not do this. So what you're doing right here, seeing what. You see what he did right here. Don't do that. No, I actually, that makes me think that Gannon was more responsible for it. The fact that he put it in all their heads.

[Big Cat]

Oh. Like.

[PFT Commenter]

Because think about it. Nobody dropped the ball at the one yard line until desean Jackson did it.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And then everybody saw and they're like, whoa, we can do that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like the tiny little thought, the intrusive thought crept in the back of your head. Nobody had ever thought before, like, oh, maybe what if I just don't carry the ball into the end zone? Yeah. But now that you see it, if it's in front of you, you should just not talk about it at all. Around your team.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did you see Jason WHITLOCK. Went there.

[PFT Commenter]

I did not.

[Big Cat]

Jason Whitlock just, I, you know, everyone's like, hey, that was a really dumb play. He decided to go a little zag. He's like, we've never seen a white guy drop a the ball in the end zone. That's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Thank you, Jason Whitlock.

[PFT Commenter]

That's now.

[Big Cat]

Appreciate you entering the discourse now. This is also, you know, Jason Whitlock, obviously we talked about a couple weeks ago. He said, is Alabama too gay to be.

[PFT Commenter]

He was, he was right about that one. He was spot on about that one. If I were to argue that, which I'm not, because far be it for me to argue against Jason Whitlock when it comes to knowing ball, but would you say that the vast majority of touchdown scorers in the NFL sample size are black players?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then white players don't.

[Big Cat]

It was just.

[PFT Commenter]

We do, we do score sometimes, but I mean, it's tough to drop the ball on the one inch line when you're getting the ball on the one inch line as a fullback.

[Big Cat]

Right. It was just such a funny, like everyone is, Everyone is in universal agreement. That's a really stupid thing to say. And Jason Whitlock's like. Raises his hands like, hey, let me just make this toxic.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it a race thing?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it a race thing? It's a very weird thing. It is, but I just wouldn't say anything about it. If I was a coach, I'd be like, I'm just going to trust the guys to not do the stupidest thing of all time.

[Big Cat]

Now also in defense, I'm not defending dropping the ball at the goal line, but if you could time it right, it would look sweet if you, if you actually. Yeah. If you, if you can nail it where you drop it so close that the touchdown counts and then they have to review it and you're like, dude, I obviously cross the goal line. That's actually kind of cool. Guys should start doing that.

[PFT Commenter]

Then you get like an extra five minutes of everybody watching your replay of scoring an awesome touchdown in super slow motion.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And that goes on the highlight reel.

[Big Cat]

Coach, I'm fine.

[PFT Commenter]

They break out the high def cameras that you don't normally see for the replays. And they slow it, they stop it. It's a lot of camera time for you. Good for your brand.

[Big Cat]

Exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're one of these guys.

[Big Cat]

Exactly. By the way, Daniel Jones never in his career with the Giants never put up 40 points. He's done it two times so far this season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The Colts.

[Big Cat]

Awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

The Colts are great. Daniel Jones is great. The Colts are leading the league in yards per play and points per game. They've got six and a half yards per play, 30.8 points per game. They're just good. They're just good. I think I've reached the part of the season where I'm not. Even if they have a bad loss, I'm not willing to say they're turning back into a pumpkin.

[Big Cat]

They've done enough.

[PFT Commenter]

They're off pumpkin. Watch.

[Big Cat]

I do kind of like the Cardinals this week, though, just out of. This is. And this is solely based on the Colts winning 40 to 6. The Cardinals getting their. Their guts ripped out again, meet in the middle. I think the Colts win but seven. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm betting against Kyler's foot this week. Yeah, that's what I'm doing.

[Big Cat]

Okay, next game.

[PFT Commenter]

Tickets.

[Big Cat]

Tickets.

[PFT Commenter]

What do we want to do for tickets? Shout out to the guy that reached out last week, blew a giant bubble. Oh, gross. His toe.

[Max]

Shortest guy.

[Hank]

Sickest Call of Duty play.

[Big Cat]

No. What about. What about someone reenacting. Show us you crossing the line and dropping it as close to the line as possible. Yeah. It's a video of you. Slow mo.

[PFT Commenter]

We could do that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I want to.

[Big Cat]

I want to review a video of it.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what also concerns me about Gannon hitting DeMarcado after that. He wouldn't do that to a guy that he was afraid of. Yeah, true. He's not afraid of.

[Big Cat]

He needs to. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he needs.

[Big Cat]

Got to get in the weight room.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got to. Yeah. Step his game up.

[Big Cat]

All right, next up, Tag Memes in that. Chargers at Dolphins. Yeah, Tag memes. Chargers at dolphins. Dolphins plus four and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Over.

[Big Cat]

Under is 44 and a half. We got no Najee Harris. We got no Amarian Hampton. We do have, though, Hassan Haskins, who scored 20 touchdowns in his senior year playing for Jim Harbaugh. Hmm. Maybe. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, this. Maybe this is going to be an ultimate Jim Harbaugh challenge week. Because he wants to. He wants to run the football. He wants to be physical. The Dolphins are the worst in the NFL against the run.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And the Chargers are banged up. We'll see how committed he is to the run game because I think they probably should still be able to run the football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And this is obviously a weird. Not definitely not a rivalry game, but it always is.

[Tyler Biotish]

This.

[Big Cat]

It's a sliding doors game because you have the Justin Herbert discourse with Tua same draft class. Dolphins could have taken him, all that stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There's a sliding doors game.

[PFT Commenter]

I went back, I watched some interviews with McDaniel and some of the game film with McDaniel in that game against the Broncos where they almost set the NFL scoring record.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And he looks like a completely different guy.

[Big Cat]

He's so downtrodden.

[PFT Commenter]

It's mostly the hair, too. The hair is just like completely disheveled now. He was high and tight back then, had the beard all trimmed up, and now he just looks like a mountain man.

[Big Cat]

I also wouldn't hate if McDaniel's like, Listen, it's going bad right now. Hot seat. Season's falling apart. Bad vibes. Maybe just come out on Sunday with pants that go all the way down to your shoes.

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be good. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Maybe just try something different. You know, you gotta. Everyone's gotta do their part. Why don't you get some pants to go all the way down to your shoes?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm beginning to think that when he did not go for a field goal at the end of that game, when he took his. His foot off the gas on that last drive against the Broncos and he decided he was not going to set the all time NFL scoring record that cursed the Dolphins from that point on, it's like you turned your back on history. Nobody had scored 70 points in like 50 years.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

In the NFL and with a touchdown, he would have set the all time record, which might stand for forever, who knows? And he just said, you know what? I'm not going to do it.

[Big Cat]

I'm not going to.

[PFT Commenter]

And that. I think that's what did it. The football gods were angry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He spit in their face.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

I think this game, Justin Herbert, like, they, they can't protect him. I think this is like, if they don't win this game and Justin Herbert gets beat up again, Jim Harbaugh might have a nervous breakdown.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Maybe he, he feels every hit. He feels every hit that Justin Herbert.

[PFT Commenter]

Takes before the game. Maybe take it easy when it comes to, like doing the shoulder pad punching and the chest punching.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's one extra hit.

[PFT Commenter]

One extra hit. You want to limit those to your quarterback. Their. Their offensive line was not good, especially for the second half last week. And I did feel bad for Justin Herbert because it's not like he played poorly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, Dolphins defense bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And I don't know where the Dolphins head is going to be at after. Like, that was a game they should have won against the Panthers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Blew it. So. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you know that Keenan Allen is just. I think he's 67 receptions away from Antonio Gates? No, that's not true. He's. He's 22 receptions away from Antonio Gates. Franchise record of catches. Which is crazy because if you'd asked me that, I would be like, yeah, Antonio Gates by a mile.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But yeah, that thousand fastest to a thousand yard receptions was crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So he. It looks like he will be setting that record this year. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Again, I think they need to phrase that stat differently. You can't be the fastest to something if it takes you. If it takes everyone like 12 plus years to get there.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you can say the least. Slow guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Or he got it the quickest.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. The first for the. The first two.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The fastest. You always think like, oh, he's like 24. How the did he do that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Puka Nakua having like the fastest to a certain yard markage. That makes sense.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Allen is 33 years old. Been in the NFL for a very long time, but credit to him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

To do it. Okay, next up, we've got the Patriots at Saints.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank.

[Big Cat]

Patriots. Saints. How we feeling?

[Hank]

This is a must win. This might be a bigger must win than last week.

[Big Cat]

It does feel like you guys have the easiest remaining schedule.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

These are the games you got to win.

[Hank]

Yep. Because it's a big letdown spot.

[Big Cat]

It's a huge letdown spot.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you say maybe it's a letdown spot for both teams?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

The Saints just won.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so here's. I looked this up. Remember we talked about quarterbacks that started oh and 10, and I gave you the list. Three of them never won a game. That was Zach Mettenberger, Brody Croyle, and Deshaun Kaiser. Stan Gelball, the legend, we talked about him, he won in his 11 start. The last guy who actually won a game after was Derek Carr, who went on to have a long career. But the game after he won his first start, they lost 52 to nothing to the St. Louis Rams.

[Hank]

That's what we need.

[Big Cat]

Does that. Does that mean anything now? This is. It's probably not, because it's a stat that quotes The Oakland Raiders versus St. Louis Rams.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Which gives you a sense of the time here.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that this wasn't that long ago.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was like 12 years ago.

[PFT Commenter]

I look at these two teams and they're both riding high off big wins. One was their first one. The other was beating a division foe, the Bills, that everybody thought, okay, this is the team. The Passing of the torch game. As Hank said, Super bowl favorites and I. Super bowl favorites. I look at the two coaches and I'm like, which one of these two coaches is more likely to have a letdown game or to like, not follow up a good result with another good result? And I think that that would be Kellen Moore. I think Vrabel seems like the guy.

[Big Cat]

That would be Frable is a big underdog guy. Like he. Remember in Tennessee, it was just, you know, there would always be these games. That was what happened on Sunday night. Like the. The primetime game. Oh, man. No way. To the Bills lose. That's Rabel. That's it. And Drake May was phenomenal. Drake May outplayed Josh Allen. He's like, he's very, very good. What?

[Hank]

I love hearing you say that. That's a beautiful sentence.

[Big Cat]

No, it's a great.

[Hank]

That's a great thing to hear. That's just a great sentence to hear.

[PFT Commenter]

So good.

[Hank]

How come his Drake May outplayed Josh.

[Big Cat]

Allen in that game?

[PFT Commenter]

How come his alma mater won't even give him any credit for it? They did.

[Hank]

They tweeted.

[Big Cat]

Where are you at with your. Your die hard Unc Tar Heels football fan? It seems like, well, they. They had to come out and. And make a statement that Bill Belichick is not retiring. Never a good sign.

[PFT Commenter]

Or like, we're committed to Bill.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're committed. He's committed.

[PFT Commenter]

They're committed to Bill.

[Big Cat]

He's committed.

[Hank]

This is a big game for the Patriots. I think it's like they gotta just come out and drop 40 on the.

[PFT Commenter]

Saints and that's a good Bella check.

[Hank]

Keep it rolling for the rest of the season because this is. They lose this game, it's kind of, you know, come back down to life if we win this game. Looking at our schedule, the AFC east is bad. Mahomes is washed. Josh Allen is good, but Lamar's injured. Burrows injured like this.

[Big Cat]

This is the big. Washed.

[Hank]

Washed. He's two and three, under 500.

[Big Cat]

He's washed.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank. That was a. He just. We're on to Cincinnati do. Yeah, he just said New Orleans. New Orleans. New Orleans. When asked about Bill Belichick. That was good.

[Big Cat]

Will you be a. Will you do us this next Wednesday? No. We talk college football. Will you please give a state of the Union and address Bill Belichick? I would like to see maybe a statement that you release on the show. You have a week to prepare.

[Hank]

I'll think about it.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So they said that Bill was looking for a soft landing spot. I Did probably not my place to do this.

[Hank]

We talk.

[PFT Commenter]

But I did offer him a position on the cream team. No, no, You.

[Big Cat]

You're allowed to do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach said that he would review his resume or review his application. So you're making Bill Belichick apply to be a member of the cream team?

[Zach]

Yeah, I'd application up to the front office.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it.

[Zach]

To the right guys.

[Big Cat]

I guess my only question, because I would think Bill Belichick would be great on the cream team. Tension to detail. Do your job.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What's Jordan's situation? Jordan, I think is she micromanaging Zach and Jacob, which would be a hilarious visual.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, No, I think that she would actually go to the top of the cream team hierarchy.

[Big Cat]

Are you okay with that?

[Zach]

We just report to Jordan.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, she become my boss too.

[Tyler Biotish]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

She would own this company within three days.

[Big Cat]

All right, so. Yeah. So offer for employment on the cream team.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank. So the Patriots are doing a white out.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

You're a big Penn State guy.

[Hank]

We are. Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

I got a question for you. Which coach do you think has had the worst post coaching career or post coaching life? Bill Belichick or Joe Paterno?

[Hank]

Go, Joe Paterno.

[PFT Commenter]

You think so it was over pretty quickly, though.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, his post, his coach coaching career was just. He died.

[Hank]

Listen, if. If. If we're gonna call, you know, is.

[PFT Commenter]

That worse than Bill Belichick?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Hank]

Leaving the NFL, getting a smoke show girlfriend that's, you know, significantly younger than you, and then getting paid to not work? Possibly. I don't think that's too bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Hank, while you were addressing the media here, me and pft, I had a.

[Hank]

Question for you, Dan.

[Big Cat]

What would you like to say to the people that have accused you of being racist for, quote, tweeting the tweet from the New England Patriots saying all white and you said we are.

[Hank]

I was going to. Save it for. I was going to say. But, yeah, I would just say you're a fucking loser.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no.

[Big Cat]

Save for fire fest.

[Hank]

And you should.

[Big Cat]

All right. Save for five. This is a great teaser. We will be addressing Hank being alleged racist during fyre fest this week.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a question for you, Hank.

[Hank]

Eric.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't get to do that. You don't get to do that. Dan Campbell jersey.

[Big Cat]

Jerry, hit him with the hardy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, is it where you don't get pressure?

[Hank]

Yeah. Government.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, you're Mr. Commentary. I'm Mr. Mr. Commenter from part of my take podcast.

[Hank]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Thank you for acknowledging that. That. When was the last time the patriots had a three game winning streak?

[Hank]

I would probably guess 2021.

[PFT Commenter]

No, 2022.

[Hank]

2022.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. So that would be a break. That'd be combo breaker for him this week.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Last time we played the Saints I think we lost 13 nothing. That was like the max so bright of all time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But yeah, it's like again I know it's like I was talking to memes and then some of the zoopy like our Browns guys. It's like rebuilding. Going through a rebuild is tough but there is light on at the end of the tunnel and it's like you're little growing. So me looking back on those dark times like it was. It was dark. We lost the saints 13 nothing not too long ago and now look where we are like that. It's possible.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so that's a good segue. We'll go to. We'll go to Brown Steelers so mean. Steelers minus five and a half over under is 37 and a half. The last time the Browns won a regular season in Pittsburgh. Anyone want to guess the year? Baker Mayfield Covid said regular season.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to say he did win there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to say this was 2000.

[Hank]

Porn guy.

[Big Cat]

Who's a porn guy?

[PFT Commenter]

Josh McCown.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

2012.

[Big Cat]

The last time the Cleveland Browns won a game a regular season game in Pittsburgh was October 5, 2003. That is 21 years. It was Tim Couch versus the combo of Tommy Maddox Chaz Batch.

[PFT Commenter]

I was.

[Big Cat]

That's insane.

[PFT Commenter]

A freshman in college.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We're one month into college. That is so much life has happened.

[PFT Commenter]

That is insane. They didn't have GPS's back then.

[Big Cat]

Facebook wasn't invented.

[PFT Commenter]

You had to print out cell phones.

[Big Cat]

Smartphones weren't invented.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I had a physical map in my car.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That. I used it out right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Book.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's crazy. That's a long time.

[PFT Commenter]

That is so that. That is the most depressing stat I've ever heard. It's very in my entire life now the Steelers, they lucked out. Yeah, Steelers lucked out. They ducked Joe Flacco. They probably had something to do behind the scenes being like hey can you. Can you trade Joe now so we don't have to play against him this weekend?

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Mike Tomlin does respect him a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Mike Tomlin also very good against rookie quarterbacks.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Very good 26 and six against rookie quarterbacks. But two Browns rookies have beaten Mike Tomlin. That's true DTR Brandon Wheaton, but those were in Cleveland, obviously.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the. I. I'm obsessed now with Kevin Stefanski, friend of the program. His answers to questions, hard questions. Because he was asked about DeSean Watson this week and he responded, I understand the question, but I'm really focused on this week.

[PFT Commenter]

Week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I just like him saying that. I think that's the second time this year he said that. Like, I understand your question. It's a very nice way of saying, don't fucking ask me that again.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't want to talk about it.

[Big Cat]

We. We are not here to talk about Deshaun Watson.

[PFT Commenter]

See the list of Browns quarterbacks and their cap hits. No, that, that. Not this. This week. It was. It was quite literally the drill tweet. It was the Browns. 2025 quarterback cap hits Jameis Winston $2.2 million dead. Dylan Gabriel $1.1 million alive. Joe Flacco, 999, 000 dead Shador Sanders, 955, 000 active. DeSean Watson 35.9 million PUP Bailey Zappy 315, 000 practice squad DTR 171, 000 dead Kenny Pickett, 8, 000 dead it's just a bunch of DeSean Watson just buried in there at 35.9.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's crazy. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Help me with my budget. I've been bullied into taking the Steelers by our good friend Jersey Jerry. I kind of like the Browns, but I also don't know how they're going to score. I said the stat on. On Monday's show. It's 10 straight weeks, regular season weeks that they have failed to go over 17 points.

[PFT Commenter]

And I don't have the stat in front of me. But we always say every single season, Mike Tomlin after a buy.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And I feel like that's something. That's a trend. I feel like he's very, very, very good after a buy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I agree. And this is also a big. Like, if the Steelers win this game and the Bengals and the Ravens lose, which they are both over a touchdown. Underdogs. The Bengals are 14 point underdogs. Steelers kind of got a little bit of a stranglehold on the AFC North.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like kind of is happening right in front of our eyes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So I. It's big game. Steelers got to not fuck this up if they want to win the AFC north because if they lose a game like this, I feel like we'll look back when Lamar gets healthy and just be like, oh, shit, it's A one game, you know, in late December, they should have probably beaten the Browns.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Okay, next game up, we have Cowboys and Panthers. We have our bet from the Meow Mix guys. Let's get it out.

[PFT Commenter]

I got it right here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, put it in. Show the max. Put it in live. Go to the Panthers coboys game. So if you missed Wednesday's show, Meow Mix, the now defunct Carolina Panthers podcast. We had Jerry on from it. Really great guy. We just love the story. We're rooting for them. They're doing a podcast for like a thousand people. They're just all heart. And then the Panthers bummed them out so much that they're like, we can't do this anymore. They did this thing where they would bet a certain prop every single week and anything they won, they would roll over and donate to charity. So we're going to take the mantle for them. I think they're actually releasing it as well if you go follow them. But we're also going to do it. We're going to have a Meow Mix pick of the week that they're going to give us every week and we'll say on this show for them. Hopefully they come back and podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to give all my winnings on this bet to charity. If it hits, I'm going to do it to their charity, which was that. St. Jude's Children's Hospital for the kids.

[Big Cat]

For the kids.

[PFT Commenter]

Ted McMillan. 70 plus yards receiving. Rico Dowdle anytime. Touchdown. I believe it pays out about three to one. Okay, three to one. That's the Meow Mix parlay.

[Big Cat]

So ride it for the kids. Hopefully we get hot with meow type.

[Max]

McMillan.

[PFT Commenter]

What? 70 yards right now, the line six.

[Tyler Biotish]

Oh, wait, yeah, you can do.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. 70.

[Hank]

70.

[Big Cat]

And then Rico Daddle touchdown. I like the Rico's Adle because the Cowboys defense is not good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Rico Daddle revenge.

[Big Cat]

Did you know that? Last week, and this is more of a insult stat to the Dolphins, but last week Carolina broke a 65 game losing streak when trailing by more than one possession at any point in the game. Their last win before last week came in 2018.

[PFT Commenter]

I did not know literally if you.

[Big Cat]

Got up by nine points or more against the Panthers since 2018, you won the game.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That's pretty sad too.

[Big Cat]

It's pretty pretty.

[PFT Commenter]

It's actually. It's not that sad considering I just heard that Brown stat. That's going to take a while to shake off me. But yeah, that they haven't really had a lot of guys that can lead a comeback.

[Big Cat]

No. Do we think the Panthers. Would you classify the Panthers as bad?

[PFT Commenter]

Badish.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

Bad on the road.

[Hank]

They're bad.

[PFT Commenter]

They're baddish.

[Big Cat]

Well, I asked that because Dak is 76% straight up against bad teams, and he's 65% against the spread against bad teams. Teams under.500, so. And he wins those game by 9.7 points per game. So he beats up on these teams. And Dak has been phenomenal.

[PFT Commenter]

I would say badass. Yeah. Dak is definitely mvp.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

MVP consideration.

[Big Cat]

Do you know what? Shock not shocked me, but Schottenheimer really should have led this with his press conference. He's got a couple significant tattoos on his arm.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't know that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Look it up. And it's just like, oh, okay, NFL coach.

[PFT Commenter]

What are they?

[Big Cat]

He doesn't seem like a tattoo guy. And then I saw it. It's words.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Big Cat]

It just. It just kind of took me back. I don't know. Is it like, whoa. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Fancy cursive. That's.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of like. Zach, wait, Zach, can we see your cursive again? Yeah, it's kind of like.

[PFT Commenter]

Like that.

[Big Cat]

Okay. It's kind of like that. He doesn't have the Eagle, though, where you go. Why didn't you just Google this instead of searching on Twitter?

[PFT Commenter]

That's also. You're still searching on Twitter.

[Max]

I'm copying and pasting. You don't have to be mean.

[Big Cat]

We're not being mean.

[Max]

You don't have to be mean.

[Big Cat]

No, we're just asking. Look at that. See, that was pretty easy. All right.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, that was easier.

[Big Cat]

So he's got. Oh, he's got one on the hand. Click the. The fifth picture there where he's got. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

See, he's inked up.

[Big Cat]

He's inked up big time. I don't. This doesn't really matter. This doesn't mean anything. We. We all have tattoos in here. Like Zach says, everyone's got a couple.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

I just was like, oh, I didn't know that. I wish I had known that.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't see a lot of head coaches with the visible tattoos.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Unless they're, like, former players. But yeah, he. I kind of think he's got swag now.

[PFT Commenter]

Kind of badass.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, a little bit. I feel a little more confident with Brian Schottenheimer now.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, what do you think about this quote from Brian Schottenheimer? Because when I first read it, it sounded like something you would say. It'll be good to see Rico this weekend. I know we're going to have to buckle up. We'll bring our seatbelts. Rico will buckle up. Can't wait to see the guy.

[Hank]

That's a great quote.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, awesome.

[Hank]

Every Wednesday.

[PFT Commenter]

Perfect quote. Bring your seat belts. It's like, yeah, Rico's coming to town, but everybody be careful because he's in one of those moods.

[Big Cat]

Did you guys see the. The Fox single map that like 90% of the country is going to be watching this game?

[PFT Commenter]

I love looking at those maps.

[Big Cat]

They used to mean so much because they used to actually be the only way that you would know if you're going to get to watch the game or not.

[PFT Commenter]

My favorite is when you see a map and there's like one dot out in Fresno, California, you're like, oh, that's David Carr. Yeah, that's. That's why that's going on.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Rico Donald did reply, by the way, to that. Not that quote, but just saying, are you ready for your former team? Are ready to buckle up after his career game or George Pickens on Rico Doddle telling the Cowboys to buckle up. And Rico Dowdle said, nah, we're buckled up every week, bro.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, everyone's buckled.

[Big Cat]

We're all buckled up.

[PFT Commenter]

It's gonna be a buckle game.

[Big Cat]

This is gonna be. Everyone's gonna be driving exactly the speed limit. Buckled up the whole time. Safety first. Okay. Moving down the line. Seahawks at Jags. I love the Seahawks in this game.

[PFT Commenter]

I liked them last week, too. The Jaguars were that 4 and 1 next to the record.

[Big Cat]

Well, so that was pretty much. This is not an X's and disrespectful. What to the Jags? Well, here's my thought process. I've. I like the Jags. I bet him on Monday night. I've. I bet him a couple times this, this year. I've thought they've been, you know, I've been a Jag believer. That was, I would say, the biggest win regular season win because I know they beat the Broncos, whatever year that was in the. To go to the AFC championship game, had a couple playoff games. They killed. They literally retired Dan Marino. That was the biggest regular season game in Jaguars franchise history. I think, okay, it might be up.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm trying to think the Blake Bortles here. That Pittsburgh game was in the playoffs. That was a great game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they've had some playoff games that have been really nice. But I'm talking about regular season. Like, think about everything was at stake. 3 and 1 going against the Chiefs down 14 oh 0 Monday night. Trevor Lawrence. Monday night. Trevor Lawrence, like with the late game heroics shot Khan saying that this is not for today, for tomorrow, it's forever. I just. That's a lot of pressure to have that type of win. First year head coach. It was definitely the biggest regular season win for Trevor Lawrence in his career.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

I feel like there might be a little letdown.

[PFT Commenter]

There could be. I also think that they're. They got pretty lucky. They played to the best. Like, they did a lot of good things on Monday night, but they also had a few things that broke their way. Yep. Chiefs. And I don't want to like downplay the fact that the Chiefs, you know, they, they got a touchdown handed to them, but yeah, with the Jaguars, it feels like they're a good team. I don't think that they're like a 5 and 1. We just beat the Seahawks team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. And it's more. It's hungry dog. Seahawks need to win. Seahawks, you know, they, they're not a bad team. They, they lost to, to the Bucks in a shootout. I think you'll get a very strong effort from the Seahawks.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they should let Trevor run the ball more because on Monday night. Yeah. That was by far the most. Like, that was his running game.

[Big Cat]

He is a little goofy.

[PFT Commenter]

He's good. He's definitely goofy.

[Big Cat]

He's so tall.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He's a spaz for sure. And I, I think that when he's able to do that or at least have the defense respect his ability to do that, a lot of other things might open up for him. Yeah. So let Trevor keep running the ball. And then I was looking at the pro football focus grades for rookies.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I believe that two, two of the top five rookies right now might be Travis Hunter. Oh, at least two of the top ten.

[Memes]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

So Travis Hunter the wide receiver and Travis Hunter the quarterback or cornerback. The wide receivers graded out as a 77.3. The cornerback is graded out as a 76.9 this season. So Travis Hunter the wide receiver we think could beat Travis Hunter the cornerback.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Get toasted.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Last game in the early slate. Ravens at home against the rams. Ravens are seven and a half point underdogs. The over under for this game is 44 and a half. What a bummer the Ravens are. I'm going to list some Raven stats for you. You guys ready for this? The Ravens defense, after week five, they are 29th in rushing yards allowed, their 30th in rushing TDs allowed. They're 31st in passing yards allowed. They're 31st in total yards allowed. They're 32nd in passing TDs allowed. Their 32nd in first downs allowed. They're 32nd in points allowed.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. And Baltimore this year through five games has already given up more points than the entire 2000 Ravens defense did in 16 games. They've given up 177 points this season. The 2000 Super bowl winning defense gave up 165 total in 16 games. It's really, really bad in Baltimore.

[Big Cat]

It's really bad. And it's injuries obviously. Like I don't think if the Ravens were fully healthy this would not be the same spread.

[Memes]

It would.

[Big Cat]

It would be close to a pick them if not Ravens favored if they had Lamar and all their defense, their defense, their starting defense in week one accounted for just 37.9 snaps in week five. That's how injured they are. So they're banged up as banged up could be. We talked about Derek Henry. We had the discussion if he's okay. This is not a good matchup for him. The Rams are the only defense in the NFL that hasn't allowed a rush of 20 plus yards through five games. So probably not this week.

[PFT Commenter]

Is Patrick Ricard back?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Also another Ram stat.

[PFT Commenter]

He has not practice.

[Big Cat]

Not practice as a four point favorite or more on the road. Sean McVeigh is 16 and oh straight up. So they win these games. Not 9 and 7 against spread. So not talking about the COVID but like the Rams take care of business on the road.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they're supposed to. Now I did see that that Hamilton might be back. I think he was practicing.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

So that would be huge if they got him back. I don't think they've. They've announced whether or not he's going to play this weekend. But a counter to that stat, Big Cat. The Rams have twice lost back to or have twice lost back to back games as outright favorites of seven and a half points or more. Okay, so there is a pattern there with McVeigh.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like if you have a bad loss against a team that you were supposed to wallop.

[Max]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

It does carry over to the next week sometimes.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Okay. So there's that Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Famer. I just want to remind everyone this is a crazy stat. So Pukinakua is on pace for 1,999 yards, which would be a record pretty crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean if you're at. That would actually be the most disappointing thing ever if you finish with 1,990.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I would almost not rather win the season receiving record at that point.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Most receiving yards in a season. Number one, Calvin Johnson. 1964 yards in 2012. Cooper Cup. 1947 yards in 2021. Is there any is on pace for 2000. There is a common denominator.

[PFT Commenter]

What is that common thread there?

[Big Cat]

That would be Matthew Staff. That would be pretty insane if Pukinakua breaks a record. And 1, 2 and 3 are all Matthew Stafford wide receivers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That'd be awesome. That would be sick.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see what the Rams are doing after the game? Because I believe they're going over to England to play the job.

[Big Cat]

Another one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So you know what the Rams are going to do?

[Big Cat]

Oh, he's nodding his head like an.

[PFT Commenter]

They're not flying back home. They're going to practice at Camden Yards. They're going to practice in the baseball stadium.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Before they fly out, which is pretty cool. They get to see some action in Baltimore.

[Big Cat]

Why don't they just fly home and just keep going the other way?

[PFT Commenter]

That's probably really far.

[Hank]

It probably really?

[PFT Commenter]

Why don't they just. Why don't you just build a giant plane and practice that has a football field inside of it?

[Big Cat]

I like that idea.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Now we're actually thinking here. Okay. Before we get to the afternoon games, Chevy. We love Chevy. We're truck guys here. On this podcast, football season is here. Whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff. There's one that's one ride that's always game ready. It's the Chevy Silverado. The Chevy Silverado is a longtime partner, pardon my take. And our favorite truck. And it's all about grit. From job site to tailgate, Silverado lets you show up strong and tackle any task. Built for the hustle. Ready for the game. Silverado is America's most dependable full size truck. For J.D. power 2025 award information, visit jdpower.com awards. Head to chevy.com to learn more and build your own Chevy Silverado. Today. We got some stinkers in the afternoon. Titans at raiders. Oh, Raiders minus three and a half over under 40. One and a half. Yuck.

[PFT Commenter]

This, I mean, this would be the let's bench Geno game, right? Like if they lose to the Titans, you gotta at least think about sitting them down.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Stink.

[Hank]

And there's only three.

[Big Cat]

The Raiders are mildly concerned about Geno Smith. Oh, they're mildly concerned that he's a broken quarterback. I actually had. We just Taped the pro football football show. My hot take of the week was that Geno Smith is not going to throw an interception this week.

[PFT Commenter]

That is a hot take.

[Big Cat]

It's like the hottest take you could possibly have. That's all he does now.

[PFT Commenter]

My hot take is that Geno Smith actually played way above his drafted slot considering his career.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's lasted way longer than people thought.

[Big Cat]

Remember the numbers, the millions that he made. Yeah. I talked about on Monday, if this is.

[PFT Commenter]

If this is his last dance. Geno. It was a great run.

[Big Cat]

There was a world where Geno Smith was just out of the NFL after his jets career and he would have made $5 million. Instead, he reclaimed it. And a hundred. Over a hundred million dollars credit to Gino. Think about those things, Gino.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Also, stop throwing the other team big picture. Things are going to be okay.

[Big Cat]

Right. But maybe not because this team is bad. I actually think the Raiders will win.

[PFT Commenter]

I do, too.

[Big Cat]

Just because it's only based on the fact that they lost by 34 last week. And everyone's going to be like, the Raiders are so, so bad. And the Titans might be figuring something out.

[PFT Commenter]

The thing is, the Titans win last week was so fluky and lucky that I don't think that they're in danger of feeling good about themselves. Like they. They felt good to not feel bad on Monday.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

But I don't think they felt good because they thought that they played well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's not. I can't really see this being a letdown spot for the Titans.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

But I do think that Gino against this team, they. They should win. They should cover.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. That's enough about that game. That's going to be a game that something weird is going to happen in that game.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want a mildly interesting stat to go with?

[Big Cat]

Mildly.

[PFT Commenter]

To go with how mildly disappointed they are with Geno Smith?

[Big Cat]

I was gonna say to go with a. I wouldn't even know if we would. Would we say this is a mildly interesting game? I. No, it's not.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not mildly interesting. This is a stat that will make you. If somebody said this to you at a bar, like a friend, you go, that's wild. And then you go back to talking about whatever it is you're talking about.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Mildly. Wait. Do you have a blind resume at any point today?

[PFT Commenter]

No, but I can whip one up.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

If you want.

[Big Cat]

No, no, that's fine.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Maybe we'll do it for Fire Fest.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay. Mildly interesting stat of the week. Every quarterback that the Raiders have played this season, was drafted in the top six of their drafts.

[Big Cat]

That is mildly interesting. I actually. That might be a little more than mildly interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

Nerd nugget of the week.

[Big Cat]

I think it's me. I think it's medium interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think so. I think it's pretty mild.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It felt boring. Well, you know what it is? It's when I read the names on the list, it actually gets more mildly interesting.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Drake May, Justin Herbert, Marcus Mariota, Caleb Williams, Daniel Jones, Cam Ward.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

That brings it back down to mild.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, mild.

[Big Cat]

Right. It went to medium and then it's back to mild. Bengals and packers. Packers are 14 point favorites off the buy. Overrunners 44 and a half. Joe Flacco showed up to Cincinnati on Monday and I guess he does know what the packers do defensively because he already played him this year. But I think the packers are probably going to have their best effort off the buy with a weird two. Two or two. One and one record.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know how Flacco works as the quarterback in this. In Zach Taylor's system of not having offensive line, I don't know if he's the perfect fit for that.

[Big Cat]

He might be.

[PFT Commenter]

He's 40.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And even when he was like 24, he wasn't exactly fast. I. I don't want anything bad to happen in Joe. I'm gonna be watching every play like. Like the mom watchers. Like with my hands.

[Hank]

Commanders.

[PFT Commenter]

Huh?

[Hank]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, with my hands over my eyes. Peeking through is what I was gonna say.

[Tyler Biotish]

Hank.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, who's missed more games? Drake May or Jaden Daniels?

[Hank]

What? I think Jane Daniels.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think so.

[Hank]

Oh, you're talking about just not starting. Yeah, well, they didn't start Drake, man. Didn't start right away.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no. After he became the starter. How many games does Drake May miss? Hit that concussion, right?

[Big Cat]

I love this. PFC's always got a stat.

[Hank]

Well, the Bill style was just wrong. Well, Drake May started that game.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he did not win that game.

[Hank]

He started the game and they won, so. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he did not. No, no.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Joe Milton won that game.

[Hank]

Drake May started the game. Patriots won.

[PFT Commenter]

How many yards passing? How many. How many attempts? How many attempts did Drake May have game?

[Hank]

Patriots won. He was the starter. They won.

[PFT Commenter]

That's just.

[Hank]

And then he started on Sunday night. They won again.

[PFT Commenter]

I know.

[Hank]

In his last two as starter against.

[Big Cat]

The Bills, how many games is Jaden.

[PFT Commenter]

Jaden's only missing. Missed two games.

[Big Cat]

Well, last year. Do you Miss any?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

I thought Marcus Mariota played. Oh, he came in.

[PFT Commenter]

He came in.

[Big Cat]

Well, right.

[Hank]

That counts as missing. We just established that.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, we didn't. Missing a game if. If you get.

[Hank]

Someone else comes in. So then Drake May won the. Against the Bills. No, your logic.

[Max]

Jay Daniels has played in 20 career games. Drake May has played in 18 career games. But Drake May did not start the season last year.

[Hank]

So it's got.

[Max]

So it's got to be the same.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, about the same. But. But only one of those guys gets talked about like they're going to get injured.

[Hank]

Well, only one of our guys cries every time he, like, scrambles out of the pocket.

[Max]

Zach said that. AI. AI says that Drake May only missed one game with a concussion.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that true? I thought he missed more than that.

[Big Cat]

I think he missed out his game logs. I think he missed week 14 last year.

[PFT Commenter]

Fake said.

[Big Cat]

Listen, sometimes good stats, sometimes you got the bad.

[PFT Commenter]

I was just asking the question. I didn't know the answer to it.

[Zach]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's how you learn. That's how you learn.

[Big Cat]

Good question. Yeah. Open your mind. Be open to everything. Jerry taught us that. Yeah. Open to the universe. We do have a. A one good game in the afternoon. It is the bucks and the 49ers.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, wait. Back. Back to the. The Bengals packers game. Joe Flacco does have a chance to make history, or at least a tie.

[Tyler Biotish]

History.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. He would be the second quarterback that would start and beat the same opponent twice in a season with different teams.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

So, I mean, it's gonna be tough for the Bengals to do that.

[Big Cat]

Jack Kemp.

[PFT Commenter]

Jack Kemp was the other one that did it. Jack Kemp. Bob Dole's running mate.

[Big Cat]

Was he?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think so.

[Big Cat]

Oh, shit.

[PFT Commenter]

Dole. Kemp.

[Big Cat]

That's cool.

[PFT Commenter]

That seems like it's a familiar bumper sticker, but. Yeah. So I'm. I'm rooting for Joe. Good luck to Joe. I'm also very worried about Micah Parsons just becoming a backpack that Joe Flacco has to carry around.

[Big Cat]

He survived him once.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

49Ers bucks. Bucks are minus three over, under 47 and a half. I loved Baker Mayfield's quote where kind of at the media, which is a fair quote from Baker. He basically said, early on in my career, it was cocky, immature. Now it's moxie, and he's a dog. Same shit, different day. As long as you play well, they change the narrative. But you got to be yourself. And I've always been like that. Fair point. Baker Mayfield has not changed the narrative. Change he has not changed as a person. He is not. He has been the same guy through and through. It's just we had, you know, Colin Coward being like, well, he's not a leader because he. One time there's a clip where he ran towards the band instead of his teammates.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because he planted a flag at midfield. Because he grabbed his dick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because he was. He was pumped that he. I. I've always liked Baker. Always thought that he was a dog. I never said any of the stuff that Baker is claiming people said, but I did hear other people say that I never appreciated.

[Big Cat]

I said, huh?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I said, that's not true, buddy. That's moxie. You're confusing that with moxie.

[Big Cat]

That's fucked up.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see Vita V's celebration that he did last week when they dropped him into coverage?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

It was the best seatbelt celebration I've ever seen. They dropped him. It was like a zone blitz and he dropped back. The guy dropped the pass or like hit off his foot and then Vita V pushed him away and gave him the best seatbelt strap on celebration I've ever seen.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

It was great.

[Big Cat]

V2V too. Is.

[PFT Commenter]

Boy do that.

[Big Cat]

I struggle with big boys in ages because Vita V just, you know, He's. He's only 30. Yeah. You asked me, I'd be like, yeah, no, Vita Vay is like in his, you know, 18th season in the NFL.

[PFT Commenter]

That is. That is strange. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think it's big boys also, maybe Samoans, where it's like all just kind of. It goes together. And I was like, I was. I was seeing. I think it was the 20. What was the. What was, what was. Josh Allen's draft class was? 2017.

[PFT Commenter]

Which. Which Josh Allen?

[Big Cat]

The R. Josh Allen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. 2017, I think 2018.

[Big Cat]

Whatever it was, it was like the 2018. 2017 draft was unbelievable. And Vita was in that draft class.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If you had asked me what what draft class was in, I would not have been able to get that right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So are the Niners. We're going to go with Mac Jones again?

[Big Cat]

I believe so.

[Hank]

I hope so.

[Big Cat]

Is he the better quarterback? Oh, Vita V, seatbelt.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at that.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's a big one. That's a truck.

[PFT Commenter]

Big boy, seatbelt, double wide.

[Big Cat]

Vita V. He's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think they're gonna go with Mac Jones. I don't know. Did Matt. Mac Jones, he confirmed that he saw the dead body. Yep. But the banana story was not true.

[Big Cat]

11 was not true.

[PFT Commenter]

So I don't know who started that rumor that he ate 11 bananas.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

But he was forced to deny that. How many bananas did he have?

[Big Cat]

I said three.

[PFT Commenter]

But how does that get. I don't understand how that story comes out. How does three bananas.

[Big Cat]

No idea.

[PFT Commenter]

Especially with him. Because if you look at the mug shot, he's a 99 bananas guy.

[Big Cat]

Clearly.

[PFT Commenter]

But to go from 3 to 11, it just seems like, I don't know, fake news or something. But I do think that Mac Jones has been. He's played really, really good. I don't think he's as good as Brock Purdy. I don't think that he's like the long term solution, but he's made a shitload of money.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He does a great job being like a fill in for Brock. Birdie.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Kyle Shannon. Best coaching job he's ever done. That's what everyone's saying right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Coach of the year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'll put it this way. If Mac Jones had played in the second half of that NFC championship game.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If they had had him.

[PFT Commenter]

If they'd had him back then. Yeah. Be a different story.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Last game, Sunday Night Football. Very excited for this game. Chiefs -2 and a half over. Under is 52 and a half. Jared Goff is actually 20 in matchups against Patrick Mahomes. Chiefs. I won week one. Was it last year? The year before?

[PFT Commenter]

I think it was.

[Big Cat]

Maybe it was last year. And then obviously the famous Chiefs Rams game. The best game ever.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I think that I like the Lions, but I'm concerned about their defense already.

[Big Cat]

Their defense has a lot of injuries.

[PFT Commenter]

They're top two cornerbacks.

[Big Cat]

I'll just say this though, because I'm going to say it every week. The Lions in their last 50 games are 36 and 13 and one against the spread. That's a stock that you just see. It's like Nvidia or whatever the fuck it is.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know, that just keeps going up. You're like, man, I wish I bought that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I don't. I wouldn't say that there's a bubble on these lines either.

[Big Cat]

No. I keep betting them. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Week one, the Lions looked like shit against the packers. But if you throw that game out, you would look at this team and be like, they might be the best team in football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I would not. I would not argue with you about that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They're just really, really good. And I mean, do we have Travis Kelsey being worried about Life of the Showgirl?

[PFT Commenter]

About the reviews?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, things can't be too Happy.

[Big Cat]

I. By the way, the reviews that I've heard are just Hank saying that people don't like it.

[Hank]

Did you guys talk about on the act, too?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, that was. I. I didn't look into it anymore. It was just you saying that. So I'm going off your reviews, Hank. Reviews. Reviews.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I did have a review of a review of Hank's review. The song would. That's about Travis Kelsey's dick. Yeah, that's what they're saying, Hank.

[Big Cat]

Sure. I. Yeah, I. I've.

[Hank]

I've listened to it less than anyone.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I haven't really. I haven't listened to it at all, so.

[Hank]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But I'm. I'm told that that song is about his dick.

[Hank]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's called Redwood. Yeah. Or she refers to as. Is that song actually about Andy Reid's dick? That's what I thought when I. When I heard all the stuff. Redwood. That's. I mean, that's what they. She's a football fan. She knows that's Andy Reid's nickname. Yeah. Just think about it. Big Red Andy Reed might be plowing the field.

[Hank]

Easter egg.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Easter eggs everywhere. All right, should we do our picks? Oh, no, we got to do fantasy minute. I'm gonna bet the Lions just Yeti. I'm gonna keep betting the lines. Yeti, Yeti, Yeti Baboni. Okay, here is our fantasy minute with Jerry o'. Connell. Start the music means.

[PFT Commenter]

Start the music memes. I got one minute. Hey, what's up, fantasy boys?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm at a sporting event. I got my tickets at game time. Yeah, awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Love that game time map.

[Max]

It's sick.

[Big Cat]

All right, I got 50 more seconds, everybody. Spend all your money on this tight end Taylor on the Jets. You'll just keep stumping it to him. Also, spend all your money on Green Bay.

[PFT Commenter]

Spend that money. It's over.

[Big Cat]

It's week five. It's not real money. It's not yours. It's funny money. Way to beat Calabasas. Got us into some private school.

[Max]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

He'S not going to get played.

[PFT Commenter]

Anymore, but he's not going to get.

[Big Cat]

Fired because Coach Gannon struck him.

[Zach]

Well, he didn't strike him.

[Big Cat]

He just went, w, w, w, w. Pick up Michael Carter. Also pick up Hassan Hoskins, the running back in the Charges. Also stream cardi. He's got something to prove. I shaved my beard. T. Mac is gonna have a great game. T. Mac. Call him that. I get bad messages from some guy who says he's friends with his mom.

[PFT Commenter]

I did it. One minute, you big cat.

[Big Cat]

Call 1-800- Gamble-Ou. That was good.

[PFT Commenter]

He actually made me think, like Eddie Dimmercato. He's probably gonna score this weekend. Yeah. Because Gannon is feeling guilty. He's like, he has to apologize because I'm sorry that I hit you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Tell you what, here's a couple carries on the goal line.

[Big Cat]

Get the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Good job, Jerry. Got under a minute.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'm officially. I'm gonna bet that right now. Before I forget, what'd he say about tmac? Is he talking about Tet? Yeah, like somebody yells at him about Tet.

[Big Cat]

A Tet.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's yelling? Who out there is yelling at Jerry about Tet?

[Max]

Tmac is also Tracy McGrady.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, there's Tracy. Yeah.

[Max]

You can't.

[PFT Commenter]

There's.

[Max]

There's one TMac, but I feel like.

[Big Cat]

Jerry's the type of guy he's. He's allowed to just. He's just going to throw around nicknames everywhere.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Ted is. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Tet.

[PFT Commenter]

Tet. He's Ted. It's the. He's the Ted offensive.

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, I'm going with Monroe. Max.

[Zach]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, good pick.

[Zach]

I mean, you.

[Hank]

Revenge.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, getting revenge.

[Hank]

I appreciate that.

[Big Cat]

I'm getting revenge for you. Yeah, no, I appreciate that this week. I appreciate that Monroe screwed us. I'm going to get revenge for my boy Hank. I'm on. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually think. I think that was a great pick last week, Hank. It's a disaster.

[Big Cat]

They scored like seven touches.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, a tragedy.

[Max]

Do you mind if I go to that game as well?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, we're going double dip.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah, I can.

[Max]

I can.

[Big Cat]

No, no, I have two.

[Max]

I have two.

[Big Cat]

There's only three.

[Hank]

There's three.

[Max]

Shitty. I'll let you pick. I'll let you pick Romeo Dobbs or Xavier Worthy. Those are my two. Xavier Worthy hasn't scored yet. I like Xavier.

[Big Cat]

All right. Xavier Worthy. Pft.

[Max]

Are you also going to that game?

[Big Cat]

No, I'm not.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

No, I'm not.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not going triple dip.

[Big Cat]

You got to get us on the board. Pf.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking at. I'm looking at Bucks and Niners, and I'm thinking there's got to be a rushing touchdown in there for the. For the. For the Bucks. The Niners actually haven't scored a rushing touchdown all season. Did you know that? Yeah, I think I'll go with. I'll go Chalky. Rashad White. Let's go. Rashad White.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Get on the board.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

I wasn't putting those in. That's on me.

[Big Cat]

That's on me.

[PFT Commenter]

That's fine.

[Big Cat]

Put them in. Put them in. All right, so the standings right now. Zach, no, meme. Sorry. Has six points. I have five points. Hank has five points. Max has five points. Zach and Pft have four points. We're all about equally as bad at gambling.

[PFT Commenter]

We're worse. Means.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, I mean, okay, the records are six and four is the leader. Bunch of us at five and five, then two people at four and six. We're all the same. We turn this around, we're one game off of 500.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, who's up first as a unit? Is it me?

[Hank]

One, two, three.

[Big Cat]

Okay, my pick. I'm going to take the Seattle Seahawks plus one and A half.

[Hank]

I'm going to take the Detroit Lions. Actually no, I'm going to take the over in that game. Over 52 and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Fun over.

[Big Cat]

Okay, memes.

[Memes]

I'm going to take the over in the Cowboys Panthers over 49 and a half.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

Both my first two picks were taken. I'm going to take Panthers plus three.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

I would like to take New England Patriots minus three and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Good pick, Zach.

[Hank]

I was gonna, I was gonna do a PFT and try and take them minus six and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, too late.

[Big Cat]

I can audible.

[Hank]

No, it's all right.

[PFT Commenter]

I am going to take the Las Vegas Raiders -3,2 against the Tennessee Titans and then I get a second pick. And for my second pick I'm going to take the Rams Ravens over 45 and a half. 45 and a half points.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Zach, coming back around.

[Zach]

I would like to take the over in the 49ers 10 Bay Buccaneers game at 47 and a half.

[Big Cat]

Like it.

[Max]

I'm gonna get stinky with over 38 and a half and brown Steelers.

[Big Cat]

Stinky.

[Memes]

Stinky memes and take the Lions plus two and a half.

[Big Cat]

Lions plus two and a half. Go ahead.

[Hank]

I'm gonna take a pick for, for the listeners. I'm gonna take the Bears plus four and a half because I hope it's closer than that.

[Big Cat]

Okay, I'm gonna take my final pick will be Bills Falcons over 49 and a half Monday night. Double Monday night. So what is it? Plus 725 is our TD parlay.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Max]

Plus 725 for the TD part.

[PFT Commenter]

Love it. Love it.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I also love that Hank's always thinking about the listeners.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good guy.

[Big Cat]

Always. Always. Okay, let's get to our interview. We got Commander center.

[Hank]

Alban's a tie.

[Big Cat]

Tyler Biatish.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is Tyler Biotish from the Washington Commanders, and he's here with Campbell's Chunky. Let's start there. Actually, is this the dream sponsorship, like, hot. Walk me through. When your agent's like, hey, we want you to rep the best soup possible. You're like, yes, sign me up. I get to eat more soup. This is sick.

[Tyler Biotish]

Nah, man, it was awesome. Honestly, like, you know, just growing up and like, seeing like, the. The commercials of Campbell's and to be able to get a call from my agent and, like, hear about, like, it was going to be with Jaden and his mom with the features of it and, like, seeing the script, it was hilarious. So, like, we jumped right on it too. And it was really unique, too, because it went right into camp, like the shoot. So it was a cool, unique bonding moment for both of us because it was us acting.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

Versus playing. Playing football. Right. So it was really cool.

[PFT Commenter]

It is soup season. I think that's officially underway right now. And yeah, I mean, I just started. Yeah, I'm gonna have some of this for my lunch today. I think I'm looking at the sausage Mac and the macaroni pasta. It's spicy. I like that one.

[Tyler Biotish]

There you go.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll be diving into that one. I'm a big Commanders fan. Big fan of yours. You had some great blocking on on Sunday, especially that outside run that that bill had. You got out in space a Little bit and threw your weight around. It was fun to watch. My question for you is, is Dan Quinn the same type of coach with the same type of aggressiveness in games where he doesn't get knocked over, as in games where he gets a little bit bloody? Because I felt like I saw, like, Dan. You fucked around and woke Dan up when you. When you got him a little bit bloody the other weekend.

[Tyler Biotish]

Nah, he was. He was. He was definitely a part of it. I mean, shoot, like, I didn't. I didn't know he actually got hit on the sidelines until we came off on the pat and I just saw, like, blood running down his nose. So, like, I really heard the field goal right before half, but. But now, shoot, man, like, he's always in the fight, man. He's a fighter. And no, it was just. It was so, like, him. His style of play, like. Like, you know, talking about how he. His Persona and his aura about things, and it was like, truly, that was his identity in that moment. And got right back up. Bloody nose, like, got it all taken care of at halftime. Came in at halftime, we're all ready to go. Like, it was awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

It was all. Yeah, I saw that. I was wondering if he went to the tent. I don't know if they gave him a concussion test or whatever, but whatever it was, it woke him up.

[Tyler Biotish]

I don't know. I don't know what he did. I have. But, no, he was ready to go into third quarter.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Awesome.

[Big Cat]

So we talked to Coach Quinn during training camp, and we asked him. I. I'm curious about the Shark Week last year. From a player's perspective. What was Shark Week like in the locker room? Are you like, what the hell is this guy talking about? Are you like, oh, man, Shark Week. This is going to be firing us up. Like, I. Because I'm. I'm basically like, what am I going to do when Dan Quinn announces it? Shark Week again? How am I going to. How am I going to react to the commanders?

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, it's just the perspective of just being where you are and what the situation is. I mean, and how DQ always talks about, like, we're the hunters too, you know, And. But also, like, you know, that came up the first time, I believe, on a short week where it's like, Sunday, flip the page. You're on the next game week, right? So it's like, you have that short little window of time, but you have to flip it in your mind of, like, you know, right after that game on that Monday. It's really like, A Wednesday. And then you're into your Thursday, Friday, you know, going into the game. And that Saturday, Friday is like in the same day of Wednesday. So whether, whether you're traveling or not. But like, the biggest point of is like embracing it at all. I think too. And, you know, I think it always brings back certain perspective too for me in regards of like, for myself. Is that like. Like, hell yeah. Like, playing off Thursday night, like, let's go. You know, like, you know, 30 nights, Thursday night Football. And then you just get into that zone and throughout the week and then you speak it into existence. Like, and how your, how your energy flows and how it's like, like DQ always talks about. It's like an extension of one another. So having that vibe of Shark Week early and explaining it and how we're going to get and how DQ always says how we're going to get down, like that amplifies to the whole, you know, staff, you know, coaches, players, everyone who's involved that's on that plane ride, going on a Thursday night game or if it's at home too. So, you know, he sets the tone and, you know, he calls it, we haul it.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Tyler Biotish]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I think it applies to the fans too. If I, if I know it's Shark Week, I prepared differently that week as well. I move everything up a little bit more.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, we had wristbands on and everything. Like, we. It was like law of attraction was out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I, I love that. And so, so this week we got Monday Night Football, big game commanders against the Bears. It's me versus Big Cat. We have an annual bet where the loser gets a tattoo. So there's, there's a lot riding personally in this podcast on that game. What's the preparation been like for Chicago?

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, no, so we just got started going into today and, you know, this is our day where we kind of have that a little bit more time to recover, where we're going to get more into game prep tomorrow. But just having film from last year of their personality, obviously have like some new coaches over there, but having that, you know, awareness of personnel and like how. And who played certain different positions and stuff. You can kind of get a jump on it as a player, but obviously like, you know, schema, schematics kind of coming from coaches will kind of dial in tomorrow. So.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do you have anything in the game plan where it's like, we need to just rely on some more lucky bullshit like the Hail Mary last year? And I'm saying that is the Most bitter person ever. Because it did. It did, for all intents and purposes, completely end the Bears season.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah. No, I mean, shoot, obviously you got to have a good, you know, you know, certain situation.

[Big Cat]

What was your reaction after, like, when you're. When you. When that happens, then you get in the locker room after, like. Holy. Did that actually just happen?

[Tyler Biotish]

No, like, it was. It was. It was wild, too, because, like, when I saw. To direct, to. When we. When Jaden kept running back and forth and he finally got to a spot and he threw it up. Like, I saw it get tipped and then I saw someone catch it, but I didn't. I couldn't even see who caught it because everyone was, like, freaking out down in the end zone. But I like, turn to every. Like, to my old lineman, Jaden, and everyone was like, in their, like, shock moment, some people started running. Some people started just like, you know, celebrating throwing their helmet. Our sideline was going nuts, like, and that everyone, like, rushed the field, like, obviously is a game winner. Right? So, like, you had this huge, like, blackout period of, like, just celebration. You got in the locker room, you're like, holy. We just did that.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

Like, that was my first one I was a part of for Hail Mary. So especially coming off that game where we kind of, like, had a lot of, you know, we. We had a lot of, you know, pre snap and like, some. Some penalties that kind of hurt us, ourselves, that took away some touchdowns. And it was one of those games where it was like, like, you know, the luck just hit right at the right time. So obviously it was. It was a cool, special moment at the same time, too.

[PFT Commenter]

After the game, did you go back and did you watch, like, all the highlights that people were making of the Hail Mary where they put, like, Celine Dion from Titanic over it and like, all the soundtracks. Did you spend any time doing that? I spent a good, like, probably three weeks just watching replays of that over and over again.

[Tyler Biotish]

I saw a lot of different shots of it, so I saw a lot of different, like, side angles of it. Like, how it all started. Like, the. The wide receivers and how they, like, went in a certain alignment. Like, I think Lou, maybe Luke was in front, Zach was in the middle. I think Terry was on the side and Noah's in the back. But I remember, like, watching the side angle from it and just the development of the whole play. But also, like, it was so interesting, too, just to get to that play was the, I believe the short pass to Zach and then the. Out past the Terry.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

And Just to get to that spot where Jaden had enough or we had enough leverage to actually get the ball up like that. So I just remember, like, having a good sense of, like, we have enough time to get to the sticks of where we need to get to. And then after the game, you know, there's a lot of memes out there, like, so, you know, obviously you see a good amount.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they're great. I have a question for you about Jaden. Love watching him play. He's been a breath of fresh air for this franchise at quarterback. And I always see him, like, he seems to joke around a lot with the other team during a game. Like, I don't know if he's a talker. I don't know if he's, like, making fun of him. I don't know if he's, like, introducing himself and becoming friends with them during the game. But, like, is. Does he talk shit or is he just being friendly to the other team? Because he does it a lot.

[Tyler Biotish]

It's in his own way, I would say. Like, I haven't seen it like that, but it's hilarious because that's who he is, you know, that's how he. You know, you even see him, like, you know, blocking for Bill on the sideline last game, and there's a shot of him, like, about to, you know, block someone. He has a smile on his face. So, like, that's just who he is. Right. And. But it's also pretty funny. Like, you know, we'll be talking out there and everything, and, like. And then Jaden will come in and, like, say whatever he says. Right. But it's just like, it's. It kind of like, you know, screws around the defense a little bit, too, because I remember. I don't think burns like this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

After the first game. Yeah, he made some comments about it, but, like, I mean, the fact that he's making comments about it kind of says something, too, though. So.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because I feel like he. He tries to, like, joke around with them and just, like, kind of disarms them a little bit. If they're, like, pissed off, Jalen will come in there, like, crack a joke smile.

[Tyler Biotish]

Because everyone's so aggressive.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And they're like, what's this guy doing? Why is he being friendly to me right now?

[Tyler Biotish]

I don't like that, but, yeah, for sure. And you have a lot of people that respect Jaden and especially for what he's done and even his first year and everything, and. But that's just his. Again, like, that's his personality, and that's how he goes about it and everything, but it's. But he has so much fun playing the game, which, you know, which I look at in such a unique perspective, too. And. And even, like, before on that last job we had with the charges, like, you know, we. I've seen some things on, like, Twitter or, like, not Twitter, but Instagram of how, you know, him and Debo, like, what dance they were gonna do before the touchdown or whatever it was. But he was dancing in the huddle, like, just being in the moment. He's a. He's a. He's a big guy that, like, he's in that specific moment and really embraces it. And, like, when you get a TV timeout, you know, having that relaxation in the huddle and, like, seeing where we're at, what's the situation, and, you know, he's just dialed in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, so, Tyler, you're a Badger. I'm a Badger. How do we fix the Badger program? And more importantly, like, like, you. You know, you're from Wisconsin, son of dairy farmers. Barry Alvarez, when he first came to Wisconsin, basically, not exact quote, but basically it was like, wisconsin has a lot of fat people, and we got to keep them in state. How do we. Like, you were an offensive lineman getting recruited. How do we keep the big boys? Because that's really the part that drives me nuts, is Wisconsin football should run the ball and be able to punish people with the offensive line. That's kind of the nature of what. What the program should be, and we've gone away from that. So how do we fix it?

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, I'm not really sure in regards of, like, schematics of how, you know, things are, because everyone has a different philosophy, and everyone has a different scheme of what they want to go for. And, like, obviously, like, if you look at my career, like, I was pro style in Dallas, and, like, and I'm. You. You have a mixture of everything here, right? So, like, you. You can do it in regards of. Of not necessarily running power or, like, it's just more so about, like, you know, sticking to the basics. Like what? Like, stacking those great days of, like, hey, like, how. How detailed can we be? And just getting to those, like, marginal gains of, like, hey, like, on this play, like, you know, the aiming point of the running back or, like, you know, the combination block, getting it. You know, push this outside so, like, you can have that cup at length. It just goes back down to basics, I think. And obviously, like, with football, you're going to have those injuries where, like, it's that next man up mentality. And I think that's the biggest part of preparation is, like, whether you're, you know, second on the depth chart, starting whatever. Like, you have to be ready for that opportunity. I think right now they're kind of facing that adversity where it's that next man up mentality. You know, I've noticed that there's a good amount of guys on the injury report, but that's that opportunity for the next upcoming two really, you know, raise the bar and get back to the standard of what Badger football is all about. Being gritty and just fucking. Just grinding, you know, getting to that next step of, like, moving the chains. Like, doesn't matter how pretty it is, just move those chains, you know, get to the red zone, get to those 4th and manageables where you can, you know, you know, stretch out that risk and press that envelope. So. But they will, you know, I have confidence in that. They will. They'll turn it around.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And when you were deciding to go to Wisconsin, I assume it was somewhat of an easy choice just in. Because of. Of what the offensive line, you know, like, the powerhouse they've created in terms of, like, draft picks. I know you were con. You converted from a defensive lineman, is that right?

[Tyler Biotish]

Right.

[Big Cat]

But you always did. You always know when you went to. When you, like, started school, where you're like, I know what they're going to do. They're going to make me another one of these, you know, incredible offensive linemen. Just churn it out and be, like, drafted and have a good NFL career.

[Tyler Biotish]

I really didn't know. Honestly, like, I really didn't know. I got offered the scholarship trip for D line, and then I. When I went over there for a spring practice, I was watching the D lineman and, you know, some of the guys pulled me aside like, hey, like, come. Come watch the O line here, you know, And I was just like, all right, like, I'll watch both, you know, and I really didn't know how it was all going to shake out because I'm like, how am I supposed to try it for both positions? Like, I really just didn't know. And, you know, coming from a very small school, like, you know, so I lit. So I went into camp and when I got to my locker, it was number 61 with knee braces on O line cleats. I'm like, all right. I kind of know where I'm at in the spring, though. In the springtime, too, though. One of my you know, high school teammates. Garrett Groscheck, he played with me at Wisconsin. He was the backup when Jonathan Taylor was there too. But he would get stats from me when I was still in high school, like finishing up that year just in preparation, just in case I was center, you know, so went into the first year and just had to learn center. And it's so interesting too. Like, I always tell, like, some of the guys, like, because the stories really unique because I had to start kind of from ground zero of like, you know, learning how to play center. And like, you know, I have, you know, teammate here with the commanders, like Michael Dieter, and he taught me how to play center, like, truly, like. And I had Dan Voltz as well, and a lot of like, the, like, alumni that were there just to pick their brains about some stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Stuff.

[Tyler Biotish]

But it's a. It was just that ongoing process too. Like how I talked about before badge football. It's like, they really do put you in the best position possible. And you do see a lot of position changes coming from, you know, it might not even be like smaller schools, but like, you really see like, even like, you know, for example, like one of my teammates, like David Edwards, like, he came in, he was a quarterback in high school, tight end, first year, Wisconsin. Then he went to, you know, tackle, right? And I play with him and. And now he's a guard for the Bills. So it's like, so it's really unique in that way, but it's also like putting yourself in the best position possible. Then, you know, just going for it and really, truly just getting down to like, the nitty gritty of like, footwork technique and really being efficient with your hands and being a technician. So just having that mentality at Wisconsin and, and that culture, it's, It's. It's really cool.

[Big Cat]

I love the idea that you just were. You were playing defense and all of a sudden there's just two, like, clunky knee braces sitting in your locker. You're like, oh, I guess I get to sign.

[PFT Commenter]

They're grooming you.

[Tyler Biotish]

It was so funny too because, like, I was playing like, stand up five technique in high school. Like, you know, sometimes I play the three tech. But it was just hilarious though, because, like, you know, you start from ground zero, but, like, you just took that opportunity just to embrace it all. And like, I had so many great role models. I had like, you know, even like Ryan Ramcheck that he was there my first year and got to really, like, you know, talk a lot of ball with him. And you know, like how I said before, like Michael Dieter and had a lot of guys like David Edwards, like, just to bring me under their wing and. But to be a really cool part of that, you know, culture. But then obviously you have, you know, Jonathan Taylor come in and then it's just like this, It's a massive like, like fulfillment of like the run game and like how that, that's when you started to really love the game. Because, like, defense, when you play defense, like, it's totally. It's a different type of game for like an offensive player versus defense. Like, there's like, like, you know, you like the, like the play schematically learning different like formations and everything like that. Like, it was, it was really cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And pass blocking is like a completely different mentality from anything you're doing on defense. Right? It's like you were just like attacking and now you're like, okay, I gotta wait for the guy to come to me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

They're like, you know, kicking post. I'm like, what does that mean? Like, yeah, you know, so it was really, really cool to, you know, to learn a new technique, but also to, you know, get it down to, you know, a very high level.

[PFT Commenter]

Were your family and friends, were they, were they understanding when you told them that you were going to play offense now? Like, what was that conversation? Like?

[Tyler Biotish]

It wasn't too much of. It was more so like, oh, that's different. Like, how do you feel about that?

[PFT Commenter]

You know, like, I guess if it makes you happy, then we're happy.

[Tyler Biotish]

I'm like, well, I have a, you know, I have the football in my hand every play, so that's a little different, you know, Like, I literally have it in my hand, like more than anyone else in the game. So.

[PFT Commenter]

So.

[Tyler Biotish]

It'S a unique job, but also comes with a lot of responsibility. Making the calls and being quick and efficient with them. But also that challenge is like, that's the best part of it. Like, you know, just getting a front. It's like maybe a low frequency front of like what they might run and then you get it and you knock it out the park. Like, that's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

How bad does it suck during a two minute drill when you have like a deep completion and then you have to sprint up to the ball and then get down to your stance, get set and then snap it? Because I feel like that's a very underrated, hard thing that offensive linemen have to do.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, I would say like the. So this last game, like with like the Chargers, like, we had the one right before halftime. And that's awesome. Like, that's part of the challenge too. Like when you're in a clock, a situation, you got a long, you know, pass and everything, and you get down, you get a set, you get clocked in at like three seconds. Like when you run that each and every, like, like Friday to like, you know, perfection. And you're just like you. You have these situationals down path and like the. The hard. The harder one. The challenge is like when you cover a ball after like a 35 yard gain and you get down there and there's a. Maybe a penalty or like something to bring it back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

And you got to jog back, you know, like, that's because I've been in situations where, like, I've literally covered down the field a good amount of, you know, yards and like, you gotta, you know, come back. That's the challenge. I would say, like, it doesn't suck. It's more so like, damn, you know, like, thought we had that one, you know, but like, it's. It's one of those things where, you know, you come back and that's like where the conditioning part is in, especially throughout this offense. It's like, you know, we do a lot of great tempo and, you know, Jaden and Cliff do a great job of, you know, calling it and. Yeah. So we're always ready.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

One thing, when it comes to spiking, I'm always worried that Jalen Carter is going to dive through the legs and just try to intercept the spike. You that he tries to do that. Right. And he's gonna do it one day and it's gonna be awesome when it happens. I just don't want it to happen to us.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, no, he. He tries a lot of different stuff. You know, he's. He's very unique in those situations. I think a lot of those guys though, too have seen that. And I don't know why. It's always like, I've had several people like, try to dive through my legs and I'm just like, yo.

[PFT Commenter]

Like.

[Tyler Biotish]

Because it's just a. It's an awkward position because, like, you try to block down.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

Like, try to just like, you know, and so. But he's been close, though, I'll give him that. Like, yeah, you know, he's been close. Number of guys been kind of close.

[Big Cat]

But I got a kind of a dumb question for you. We have a guy in our office, Mike Katick, who played center for Indiana, and when he gets drunk, he'll just like, Randomly, just start at a bar, just start doing, like, pass pro sets and stuff like that. How often does that happen in the offensive line community where if you're just drunk, like, you're just like, you know what? I'm not getting laid tonight. I'm just gonna start doing some pro sets with my boys at the bar.

[Tyler Biotish]

I would say that definitely. That's definitely a thing in college for sure.

[Big Cat]

Just getting your hands on somebody. Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

Nah, it was. It's more like. It's so funny because it's like, in college, you have so much time with one another, and it was. It was one of those things where, like, you would always, like, it was so ingrained in your brain to get this down or, like, you know, the technique and everything, and, you know, you have a couple drinks and you have. Have some fun or whatever. But, like, in regards of just, like, you know, being more open to the topic of where you're at in that. In that set and everything, like, I'm gonna get it done. I'm gonna get my offhand down, you know, everything like that. So I could definitely see it.

[Big Cat]

I love that.

[Tyler Biotish]

I can definitely see that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

That's hilarious.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

I didn't know that was universal like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he does it a lot, and it's always shocking when he does because he's got had, obviously, like, a quick first step. And so when you see a big guy moving like that, you're like, oh, that is kind of cool. It is a fun party trick, but in reality, what you're doing is you're just, like, going from a crouch to taking one step, and everyone's like, whoa, that's wild.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah. Staying half man. Yeah, it's right there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, you still wrestle with the boys. I feel like that's something that a lot of linemen do too. It's just like, come on, let's wrestle. Let's have a quick wrestle.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, yeah, no, we. We had a good. We had some wrestlers from high school when going into college on our team, and, you know, there is some wrestling matches on vacation.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This might be a dumb question, but do. Do you ever forget the snap count?

[Tyler Biotish]

No, I think it's more so like. And. And sometimes it's. It kind of correlates, like, yes and no. I think there's a variation of it whether or not you lose the snap count, like, in regards of. Throughout, if you're making a call and you don't hear the first part, like, that's happened in my. In my. You know, throughout My collegiate career into the pros sometimes. But it's. It's. You have, like, certain. Certain code words to make sure, like, you're not on it, but, you know, that's the routine. Like when you are making a call, like, you want to have a routine of, like, all right, this is on hard count. This is how I'm going to approach this. So I get back to reminding after you making two different calls, making sure it's like, on the road. Right. Crowd noise and everything. You got to make sure everyone's on the same page. And then you have to go back into the snap count, and then it's like making sure everyone's on the same page, too. So there's been some times where, you know, you get down. Even, like on a certain play clockwise too. Like, you get down and like, what are the mechanics, too, of the play clock on the road and certain situations like that. But, like, long story short, hurt, like, yeah, there's been some times for sure. And. But that's the piece of, you know, like I said before, like, there's a lot of responsibility when you have the ball in your hands for the most of the games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I would just keep repeating to myself, like, okay, on two. Don't forget it. On two. On two, on two. That's the only thing I would think about at that point. Throughout your career as a center, you've played with a few different quarterbacks. I'm curious because you guys have a close relationship, a unique relationship between the center and the quarterback. If you were blindfolded and had, like, noise canceling earphones on. On. Could you tell the difference between Jaden under center, Marcus under center, and Dak under center?

[Big Cat]

Me throwing Horny Brook too?

[PFT Commenter]

Horny Brook too.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Could you be like, oh, yeah, that's Dak.

[Big Cat]

That's definitely Horny Brook.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah. I would definitely think I would know Dax and Jaden's the most. And I probably would. I probably would know Marcus's as well.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Tyler Biotish]

Horny Brooks is. Sorry. Horny. It's been a minute.

[Big Cat]

It's been a while. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it would be like riding a bicycle. You'd be like, oh, yeah, I feel that knuckle.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. When Jaden's under center, do you ever think about Horny Brook, like, closer?

[Big Cat]

Oh, man. All right, well, this has been. It's been awesome. I got one last question for you, Tyler. It's. It's the robot question. Rho b a-k.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take has been a lot of fun. Thanks to Campbell's Chunky for setting this up. The best soup in the game. That's a fact. We mentioned a lot of players. You mentioned Jonathan Taylor. I like, Very simple question. Just how sick is he? Because he just keeps. He keeps just being the sickest running back. Would you ever. Would you ever just, like, watch him, you know, when he busts through the line, you're just like. Like, he. God damn it. He's so good.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, I definitely, like, you know, follow a lot of the, you know, the Badger players, too. Like, if I know, like, someone's playing on, you know, Monday night or Thursday night when you have an opportunity to watch him. But, like, jt, like, you know, he's all over the board of, like, the stat sheets this year and, like, and what he's been. And he's always been really like that, too, you know, even from college into the NFL, like, you know, he's a workhorse. And what he's done in the NFL, too, is awesome to see. And, man, like, his. His ability speaks volumes. And he's even. He's an even. Way better, like, you know, person than he's a player.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Tyler Biotish]

Like, no.

[Big Cat]

Not possible. Just not possible.

[Tyler Biotish]

Have you been. Have you been, you know, a friendship with him a long time? Like, and you've been around him enough? Like, he's the most genuine human being.

[Big Cat]

But he's the best running back in the NFL right now, or one of the best. Top three. Is he a top three human?

[Tyler Biotish]

In my opinion.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, in all the world. All the world?

[Big Cat]

The entire world.

[PFT Commenter]

Like your parents?

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Who knows?

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

[Big Cat]

It's not a knock on him. He's probably a really great dude, but there's just no way he's a better person than he is football player because he's that good at football. All right, we'll see.

[Tyler Biotish]

We'll see. Who knows? Who knows?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What if he. What if he gets, like, a noble peace?

[PFT Commenter]

He might.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we'll be looking like.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, if he. If he gets the Colts to the. To, like, deep in the playoffs, that would. It would also be a really good sign of him as a human being.

[Big Cat]

He would help so many people out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that'd be really nice of him.

[Big Cat]

That's a great point. All right, well, Tyler, this has been awesome, man. Thank you so much. Best luck rest of the season, except for Monday night.

[PFT Commenter]

Great luck on Monday night.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's gonna be awesome. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And we appreciate it. And shout out. Shout out Campbell's Chunky for setting this up.

[Tyler Biotish]

Absolutely. Shout out to Campbell's. I appreciate you guys. Thank you so much.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, Fyre Fest of the week. We are taping this at 2 o' clock on Friday. So you obviously heard Thursday, you heard the beginning of the show. So, Max, hopefully we're still alive. Hopefully we're still alive.

[Max]

I. I think. I think one person doesn't want us to be alive. I know that's for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

I think one of you guys is going to be still alive.

[Big Cat]

Oh, who doesn't want us to be alive? Is there anyone in here who maybe bet against all of our teams?

[Hank]

Not me.

[Memes]

I have a. I have a hater parlay.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Memes]

I pay out bet25.1000.

[Big Cat]

Memes. I have an issue with you, though, because we talked about it earlier and then I heard you, you doubled down on it. Memes thinks that it would be better for the show if we both, if both of us or one of us lost tonight than if the Phillies and Cubs advanced and we had PMT Armageddon on Monday night where it would be Bears Commanders and then Cubs, Phillies.

[PFT Commenter]

I would love that.

[Big Cat]

How is that. How would that not be the best thing for the show?

[Memes]

I don't want to neglect this show that we're doing. I think it would. It would highly increase this show. And then what, the Phillies make it to Monday? One of you. I don't think the Cubs are making it.

[Big Cat]

Okay, that's fine. But you.

[Memes]

But the Phillies. Monday will be just as good.

[Big Cat]

A Phillies, Cubs, NLCS would be awesome for the show. Awesome. Now, Phillies would curb stomp, but that would be awesome. You'd have a week of me being mad at Max. How would that be awesome to Show.

[Max]

His logic makes no sense.

[Big Cat]

Such a hater. He doesn't even. He doesn't even want the show to do.

[Max]

No. The problem is then one of us would go to the World Series and he can't have that.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Guaranteed World Series.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, World Series loss would be awesome for memes, though. That would be.

[Big Cat]

That.

[PFT Commenter]

Just think about that. Memes. How good would that be? If you're thinking about numbers, you can't be losing. What if. What if Max got no hit in the World Series again?

[Big Cat]

Again. And it was another one exactly like the other one that was also a no hitter.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, I want Big Cat's attention to be completely divided on Monday.

[Big Cat]

That would be.

[PFT Commenter]

I want him to lose all focus. By the way, Big Head, I have a game ball for Monday.

[Memes]

So much that has to go.

[Big Cat]

I agree. This conversation could be completely moot right now. One of us could easily be. Or both of us could easily be eliminated. So this conversation is stupid. But I'm saying as it sits right now at 2 o' clock on Thursday, you should be rooting for the Phillies and Cubs to play in the NLCS for the show. Sure.

[Memes]

But if you guys lose game five on a Saturday, it does nothing for the show.

[Big Cat]

True. All right, that's. I see where your point is on that.

[Memes]

Have to shave your mustache.

[Big Cat]

All right, so what you need to. What you're saying.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, sure. Yeah. Memes. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What you're saying. And I actually agree with this take. If the Phillies and Cubs are not going to advance, you need them to just lose tonight. Yeah, that's fair. That is fair. Because you want to happen on a show night.

[Memes]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

It's kind of like. What was the. Oh, it was the Celtics, Knicks, where we just didn't have any show nights.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. That sucked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was. I feel like you guys got eliminated on a Friday. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But get out of trophy made for Monday night. Oh, Bears versus Commanders.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

It's right here. It's the football.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

Put it on the line.

[Big Cat]

Hell yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Put it on the line. We're betting the football. Shane's favorite football.

[Big Cat]

I love this.

[PFT Commenter]

Winner gets to keep that and do whatever they want with it.

[Big Cat]

I love.

[PFT Commenter]

This isn't a good football.

[Big Cat]

It's a, a. It's an incredible football.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a damn good football. Maybe one day that can.

[Hank]

Right?

[PFT Commenter]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And a tattoo in tattoo. Yeah. But I think. I think the football is a bigger deal than the.

[Hank]

Of the football.

[PFT Commenter]

The football is forever.

[Big Cat]

That football is incredible.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, it's good.

[PFT Commenter]

So Good. You want to feel it. Hank, have a catch. Pretty good.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to say right now, if I win that football, I would like to maybe put it up as in a future PFT versus Hank golf match.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, wow.

[Big Cat]

Not the one you guys already filmed, but a future. Future one.

[Hank]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

We should just maybe have to splash the pot.

[PFT Commenter]

It's so nice of football. I feel like when I win this football bet, I'm not going to want to put it up for grabs again ever again.

[Big Cat]

It is an incredible football.

[PFT Commenter]

It is good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Fire fest.

[Memes]

Hank.

[Hank]

Yeah. We alluded to it earlier in the show. The Patriots are wearing their all white uniforms, and they tweeted out, just as every team does the. The graphic with their uniforms of the week. And obviously, you know, another storyline of the show is. Is me, you know, me and Max going to Penn State, me going to the whiteout, doing the whole we are thing. So I, quote, tweeted and just said, we are.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Playing into the whiteout, you know, element of the jerseys.

[PFT Commenter]

People thought you meant we are all white. White.

[Hank]

I. I don't even understand what that means. Like, that is just the example of social media, like, people reaching and just going so. So reacting so fast. I mean, like, you're racist.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, I don't.

[Hank]

I. I'm so. I don't even understand how that could be racist. Like, we are all white. We're not all white. What does that even mean?

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't think about that. What does that even mean, though? Think you were racist.

[Hank]

If I was saying we are all white, that. What does that even mean? Obviously, we're not all white.

[PFT Commenter]

We're not. We aren't. No.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Hashtag we aren't.

[Big Cat]

But, you know, you want them to know.

[PFT Commenter]

Even. Even if, like. No, Hank, answer this question. If it's all white, it's all.

[Hank]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay. There we go. Okay. Threw in the tea.

[Big Cat]

No cat. All right. So people were really, actually mad at you.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For. Maybe they're just mad.

[Big Cat]

Honestly. Keeps it factual. Oh, man, that's.

[Hank]

People were doing, like, classic barstool. Like, classic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Zach]

I don't.

[Hank]

I. I don't even fundamentally understand how that could be perceived that way, but, yeah, it was. It was just one of those, like, I don't really even tweet that much, but I don't either. I'll be tweeting less.

[Big Cat]

I got to be under. I got to be honest.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't get it either. I don't really. Yeah, it's quite a reach. Like, the A man said way more racist stuff.

[Hank]

The A man I got. Like, that was funny. You like, that was very, like, clearly could be interpreted.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a solution.

[Hank]

A man.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a solution. Hank, you ready?

[Hank]

This is just.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you ready? People reaching late October, New Zealand's rugby teams coming to Chicago. You have to be the biggest all black supporter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, sure.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the name of their team.

[Big Cat]

That's so bizarre, I guess.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

That is very, very bizarre that people just took that in a different. A completely different. I mean, I guess they don't understand the we are thing. Yeah, like, that's a. Well, I mean, NFL college, I guess, are not.

[Hank]

You know, like, if you're following me on Twitter, I was doing the we are right for like an entire two.

[Big Cat]

This is very funny that people actually were upset.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I don't really understand how saying we are and they're talking about the all white jerseys that. I don't know. I don't. I don't get that one. Unless is. Is the Penn State whiteout. Is that race. Did you get unintentionally dragged into a racist thing?

[Big Cat]

I. Maybe, yeah, I guess.

[Hank]

This is Penn State. That's why they call it a cult because.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I always thought that it was called a whiteout because they like to cover up their mistakes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's exactly what it is.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, well, Hank, you're not racist.

[Hank]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

One of the least racist guys I know.

[Big Cat]

He does really want to. We are all white.

[Hank]

What? But that again, like, what? We're not. So, like, I don't even understand that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, well, what do you mean by we?

[Hank]

That's what I like.

[PFT Commenter]

We are We.

[Big Cat]

Who is.

[Hank]

We are Penn State.

[Big Cat]

You're hoping that. You're hoping that's the future of America? Is that what you're saying?

[Hank]

We are.

[Big Cat]

All white.

[Hank]

Play the max.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's when you guys supposed to say, oh, sorry, sorry.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm used to having max.

[Tyler Biotish]

Repeat it.

[PFT Commenter]

Repeat it.

[Big Cat]

Stay Pen.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

We. Oh, you're welcome. Welcome, welcome. All right. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

My fire fest of the week.

[Zach]

It.

[PFT Commenter]

It goes back to what I told you guys last week about how I hired another man to walk into my house to bring his other man tools to go into my other man room and hang up my guitar hanger my guitar stand on my wall. He did a great job. Turned out awesome. Very happy with it. But in my reimagining of this same office room, I've run into what I think is a much, much, much bigger problem. Problem that I don't. I don't really know how to solve. I have a couch in that room. There's a couch. It takes up too much space in that room. I'm looking to open it up, and I have no idea how to get the couch out of my room. Oh, it's impossible. I have a big brown couch that's in that room. It does not fit through the door.

[Big Cat]

You gotta break it.

[PFT Commenter]

I. So then I thought to myself, what, Doctor, what are my options with this couch? I thought maybe I could lift it up through the window. Because there's a window in that room.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

But doesn't fit through that window, so I can't just put it out the window.

[Big Cat]

So it was there when you got there?

[PFT Commenter]

No, somehow it got into the room when I moved in.

[Big Cat]

You gotta find out who. Who moved it in?

[PFT Commenter]

I. Yeah, the. It was a Russian guy from New York that I paid to drive my stuff across the country.

[Hank]

Are you tossing the couch?

[PFT Commenter]

I would love to toss the couch.

[Hank]

Just get a couch doctor.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, break the. Out of it.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, okay.

[Big Cat]

Smash the couch.

[PFT Commenter]

That was my other option. Is like, okay, maybe I. I disassemble this couch. It's like a leather couch. I don't know what's inside of the leather. I thought about renting, like, a power saw, a chainsaw, but I thought about chainsaw power saw. But then chainsaw. Probably shouldn't use that indoors.

[Big Cat]

No, you should.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, if it's electric, maybe, but I don't. I already got an electric power wash. Too much of a. Yeah, people rake me for that one. So I thought maybe I get, like a power saw, a circular saw, but I don't know where the springs are or the staples or the metal or the nails inside. And I read up on it. That can be very dangerous if you do that. So I don't.

[Big Cat]

Goggles.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know how to get this. There's a couch that's holding me hostage. It's barricaded itself in my office. I don't know what to do.

[Hank]

Couch dog.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you keep saying. What is it? What's a couch doctor?

[Hank]

You never had to do this in New York? No, I do it multiple times. They come. I'm sure they have it in Chicago, but definitely more of a New York, Manhattan thing. But they just come and, like, cut your couch in half, take it out, and then put it back together.

[PFT Commenter]

That's actually a job.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

A couch doctor. Yeah, Like Johnny Sends.

[Max]

I'm surprised you never heard of that. No, that was like, very, very common because.

[Big Cat]

Just because that couches into any of those doors. I have an idea, though. Better. Better idea than a couch.

[Hank]

And it's usually like a Russian. Like, it's a. It's.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. Good, Good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Could I offer you maybe for pmtv, we give the cream team a couple tools and we just put them in your basement.

[PFT Commenter]

We just see what happens.

[Big Cat]

Hey, get out. When you get out, you could get.

[Zach]

That couch out for you pm.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I'm saying.

[Big Cat]

The two of them trying to get that couch out.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

If you don't care about the couch's health.

[PFT Commenter]

No, in fact, I. The couch.

[Big Cat]

Couch, I think we got. I think we should send the cream team to your basement. I would almost put a camera there and just be like, get it out.

[PFT Commenter]

I would almost prefer that the couch be destroyed after the last, like, two weeks of me trying to figure out how to get this thing through the door.

[Memes]

Perfect.

[Zach]

So the health of the couch does not matter. Just get it out of your house.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no. In fact, like. Yeah, I want you to hurt it.

[Zach]

Like, abuse it on the way out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want that capture dead or alive. Unless. Unless there's somebody out there that could use a free couch. But I don't think you want this guy. This couch is bad luck.

[Zach]

We will. If you welcome us into your home, we will leave with a couch.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I love that.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Yeah. Hired.

[Max]

But don't mess up his walls or anything.

[Big Cat]

No, you can't mess.

[Max]

No, no, no, no.

[Zach]

We respect your home.

[Big Cat]

100.

[Zach]

Yeah. We would have no intent of going in there and just messing up your. Your space. That's your safe space. That's your home.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. And I will. I'll put money inside the cat. Like, under the cushions. I'll hide money in the cat. Whatever you find, you keep cheap.

[Zach]

Okay. As your payment, I'm happy to do it for you.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Zach]

I'll inform Jacob.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Let's do what can't the cream team do.

[Big Cat]

They can do it all. They can do it all. Well, what? Keep the machine on for when Max is trying to watch a Phillies elimination game. Oh, can't do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Did they lose? Was this a loss for the Phillies last night? Oh, so max is 10 when the ice cream.

[Big Cat]

We have to shut down.

[Max]

I didn't even want the ice cream last night. It was the other. The other people.

[Big Cat]

Max, come on.

[Max]

You can go. You can go on stream. You can See, it. I was trying to say no ice cream because we were playing well without.

[Big Cat]

The ice cream, so we got to shut.

[Max]

And then Dana wanted the ice cream.

[Big Cat]

Huh? Shutting it off for the Phillies game.

[Max]

I don't care. I'm not. I'm not eating any ice cream during the Phillies.

[PFT Commenter]

You got it. You got to just keep doing what you did.

[Max]

Weight loss. I went. I went down three pounds this week.

[Tyler Biotish]

Because of the Phillies.

[Max]

I was too anxious.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's go.

[Max]

I'm back on track.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

My firefest. Zach, what are you gonna say?

[Zach]

I was just gonna say we weren't sure if keeping. We had it open for the Cubs game, and then the over or after dark stream. Weren't sure if a third night in a row was gonna hurt it. Yes. So we were gonna have it open again tonight. But we can. We can test how many days in a row we can go. But that could lead to. Just need a tech to come in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, we don't want that.

[PFT Commenter]

We don't want that.

[Big Cat]

All right. My fire fest is a quick one. We're all tired this time of year. Football season. But there's moments that I'm tired that I like. My brain doesn't work, and I have to stop myself. And it happened this morning because I came down to my kitchen, and my kids were getting ready for school, and my son. First thing he said to me was, where's the big check? And my first like, like, knee jerk thought was, how the did Hank get to my son? And then I had to stop and be like, wait. I did talk to him about the big check, like, two days ago. But, like, that moment was like, I had. I had to really kind of reassess and be like, you thought actually for a second that Hank, like, somehow got to your son and, like, got him to, like, troll you with a big check question at 7 in the morning. So I need to sleep, because that was bad.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's great work by writing free. Yeah, that's great work by Hank to make your enemy believe you're capable of innoc. Anything.

[Big Cat]

I was so mad at myself for having that moment of weakness where I was like, what the. Where the hell is Hank?

[Hank]

He should accepted it.

[Big Cat]

Hell, I actually shouldn't. We won.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a fair question. On Wednesday, he was looking for Daddy 50. He's going to talk to. To a therapist in 30 years about how daddy didn't come home with the big check that he promised one time.

[Big Cat]

I know. I did promise a big check. I got to get. I'm Going to get a big check of my own. Just walk around with it.

[PFT Commenter]

Write yourself a check. Yeah.

[Zach]

Zach, my fire fest of the week is. I think I've become uncomfortably addicted to Stella's Coffee Run.

[Hank]

The mobile.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

I can't stop playing Stella's Coffee Run. I play it in the Uber when I'm laying in bed. I play it when I'm using the restroom. Any free time I've had in the last couple weeks, I've just been grinding Stella's Coffee Run. I just got kicked out of the top 10, and I'm pretty pressed about it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I've watched Zach play it. He be. It's awesome.

[Zach]

It's so much fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, go play Stella's Coffee Run.

[Max]

I still don't understand how you play. I keep trying to go, and. And you can't. And you can't play it.

[Big Cat]

Game has ended.

[Zach]

I thought.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, limited time only.

[Hank]

I don't know how you got in there.

[Max]

He keeps playing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think he's, like, hacked into the back end or something.

[Zach]

I mean, it might be. It might be like you couldn't get no certain score.

[Big Cat]

You're out.

[Hank]

It was like. It was. It was a limited time only thing.

[Max]

I thought we may have to bring it back.

[Big Cat]

We have to bring.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that. Zach might be hacked into the system, and it's just like him competing against memes.

[Zach]

Yeah, if I was hacked in, I would have put. I would have placed myself back top 10 because I was. I'm pretty. I was pretty upset about getting booted.

[Max]

But how did you get booted when no one else can play except for you?

[Zach]

We're playing.

[PFT Commenter]

I just.

[Tyler Biotish]

Yeah, he's.

[Max]

I'm looking at his phone. He's playing.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's a great game, but, like.

[Max]

Look at the computer. It won't let. It won't let anyone else play.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach's probably a mod. He probably banned you.

[Max]

All right, let me try mobile. Maybe it's mobile.

[Big Cat]

I've watched him play. He is addicted.

[Zach]

You guys should try it out there. It's so good.

[Big Cat]

It's a great game. We got to bring.

[Max]

Well, I don't even know if the people can try it.

[Big Cat]

We gotta bring it back. We gotta bring it back. We do have to bring it back. What do you. Hank's got something. Hank has something.

[Hank]

Permission to be a rat?

[Big Cat]

Yes. Permission granted.

[Hank]

I was in the booth the other day for an interview, and they were talking about their diet.

[Max]

Oh, this is fucked up. Also, I just Tread mobile. Still doesn't work.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so Zach is Playing. He's playing by himself, and he's getting. He's losing ground.

[PFT Commenter]

Which interview is this?

[Big Cat]

What happened?

[Hank]

I think it was Tuesday.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

I mean, the wheels are just.

[Big Cat]

It Just tell us.

[Hank]

You guys gotta just. You gotta. You gotta let it out there. I think. I think a little bit of shame will maybe, like, kickstart you into. Into. Into positivity.

[Max]

I had a good week.

[Memes]

I. I also had.

[Max]

Who are you talking to?

[PFT Commenter]

What. Hank's trying to do you a favor by shaming you right now. That's what you guys don't understand.

[Hank]

It was.

[Memes]

Hey, that.

[Max]

With your money.

[Big Cat]

One guy. Say it.

[Zach]

Say, I think Hank might be only throwing me under the bus.

[PFT Commenter]

Not the whole entire. Well, it was the whole booth.

[Tyler Biotish]

It was just.

[Hank]

It was the. It was the booth conversation. And you guys were like, we can't talk about this. We can't talk about this now. In my head, I was like, I'm sitting here like, I can't.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Max]

Because Zach had had a. Zach had a historic meal. One.

[Big Cat]

One of these days this week. Week.

[Zach]

It wasn't even that bad. It was like, all right, we're here now. I guess we'll just get into it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, let's do it. Let's go. Hard conversations.

[Zach]

Yeah, Hard conversation, I guess, is a carb conversation. I was a little homesick, and I was, all right, let me just eat some comfort food. So I just had some Baconator fries, some chicken sandwiches, and some concretes. That was.

[PFT Commenter]

It reminds you home.

[Big Cat]

Wait, there was a lot of S's on those.

[Zach]

I think it's a. I think I might have, like, a. An even number thing going on sometimes where I. I prefer the meat anyways.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Zach]

I'm rambling, but.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no. Back up. You. You like burgers and even numbers?

[Big Cat]

I like.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Tyler Biotish]

I don't know.

[Zach]

That sounds.

[Max]

No burgers. It was all chicken. No burgers.

[Hank]

So this, like a. It was a big order. Like, oh, it's not bad. And then he was like, yeah, it was. And two concretes.

[Big Cat]

It was just give us a full order.

[Zach]

All right, it was. It was.

[Memes]

I had.

[Zach]

I got four Baconator fries. The nuggets were buy 10, get 10 free. So that's like, yeah, yeah, you got to get a deal.

[Big Cat]

You got to.

[Zach]

And then the value chicken sandwich. So the small ones. And then.

[Big Cat]

Wait, how many?

[Zach]

Just two.

[Big Cat]

Two.

[Zach]

I kept things even. And then I got two concretes at Smash Wall.

[Big Cat]

All right, so two chicken sandwiches.

[Zach]

But that Butterfinger was four fries.

[Big Cat]

Two 20 nuggets, two concretes.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you. What are the flavor profiles of the concrete?

[Zach]

So the first one was butterfinger pie, which is like butterfinger mixed in with vanilla and marshmallow fluff. And the second one's called triple chocolate cake, which is chocolate fudge, chocolate ice cream, and chocolate cake. And you can have them add additional chocolate cake if you want to. I didn't do that this time.

[PFT Commenter]

You did not.

[Zach]

Did not put you on concrete game.

[PFT Commenter]

You didn't add anything to either one of them or just one?

[Zach]

No, I didn't add anything to either of them. I was just trying to put you on a little sauce.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, I appreciate that.

[Big Cat]

And for people who are wondering what concretes are, they're basically milkshakes. Like, heavier milkshakes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they're good.

[Zach]

And this booth was a safe space, and it's no longer safe.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank just completely violated. Wait.

[Big Cat]

Power memes, and Max doing.

[Max]

I'd go. I go.

[Memes]

Good week.

[Max]

Down three pounds this week.

[Memes]

Down six and a half.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So, Zach, you gotta just.

[Zach]

I gotta carry my weight. Eb and flow. It's a team sport, and I'm letting the team down.

[Big Cat]

It's a lot of weight.

[Zach]

We got time left, unfortunately. It's a lot of weight.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think maybe I. I can spot one part of your meal that might be an easy part to cut back on the calories from, if that's okay?

[Zach]

Yeah, I'm. I need all the advice I can get.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think maybe just get two baconator fries instead of four bacon native fries.

[Zach]

They did short the fourth one, so it was really, like 3.5.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

All right. Well, you said that they're very fries.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I did that. If I were to pick one part of it, I'd say maybe, just maybe not. Four orders of fries.

[Zach]

You're right. 100%.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think we can work on that. I think that's doable, right? For a goal.

[Zach]

100%.

[Max]

Also, that was. That was actually only meal of the day.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he's a weird eater like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. The story's getting better and better.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did it make you feel less homesick?

[Zach]

No. I just woke up the next morning, saw that Wendy's gave me the big, big bag, and I was like. Like, this is fat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I regretted it. Also, is your mom Wendy? How is that fixing?

[Zach]

There's a Wendy's down the street.

[PFT Commenter]

Comfort food.

[Max]

Comfort food about it.

[PFT Commenter]

They got Wendy in Florida too.

[Zach]

Carbs are good for celebrating and bad days. So, like, you just sometimes you got to lean into the food.

[Big Cat]

They're Good for everything.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. What. What's your happy meal?

[Zach]

It just depends. I get into, like, kicks, but a lot of times it ends. You go savory, then sweet. So I do really enjoy French fries. So a french fry variant of some sort. And then ice cream is, like, a must.

[Big Cat]

Do you go. Do you switch back and forth? I switch back and forth.

[Zach]

I go one and one. So you hit a little salty.

[Big Cat]

Hit the ice cream.

[Zach]

Little salty.

[Big Cat]

All right, so you know what? That's. That's the problem, Zach. It's not a problem because it's just. This is how we're wired as guys. You just got trapped in the cycle. Cause, like, I get trapped in the cycle sometimes where I'll be like, oh, I want a snack. Oh, I want a little chocolate. Oh, I want to go back to the snack. And then next thing you know, you've eaten an entire bag of chips and an entire bag of candy.

[Zach]

You caught up in back and forth.

[Big Cat]

You just get in the cycle, and you can't get out of the cycle because you don't know which one to finish with.

[Zach]

We're cycle guys. We don't have to be cycle guys. We can break them.

[Big Cat]

No, I think I.

[Zach]

Look, it's like. It's good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is.

[Max]

That was fucked up, the Hank did.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it was.

[Max]

It's probably the most fucked up thing Hank's done this week.

[PFT Commenter]

Mm.

[Hank]

Oh.

[Zach]

What we are.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank hasn't looked like. No, that's not even close to the most.

[Max]

That was. That was a callback to me freaking out at him on Sunday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was very funny.

[Hank]

I was sitting there like. They just kept talking about how he can't talk about it, and I just was like, yeah, I was gonna bring. I was gonna bring it up Tuesday, but it was already. It was a long show.

[Big Cat]

So I memes, you have a better week this week.

[Memes]

Yeah. Good week.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's go. You're back.

[Memes]

Memes could be great tonight.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

That's why it was a good week.

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Numbers three.

[Memes]

No, it was four.

[Big Cat]

You're just giving up?

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You're quitting on three.

[Memes]

I'm going with four for the Baconator fries.

[Max]

Don't laugh.

[Memes]

It's good.

[Max]

That's a good thing.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean Look, I thought two sodas was crazy. Four Baconator fries, I'm going 41.

[Max]

I don't think that's. I can't.

[Memes]

That's one of these places gotta do exact special.

[Max]

That's up that Hank did that.

[PFT Commenter]

It is nine. I'll go 15.

[Hank]

I. I'm trying to help.

[Memes]

We are. We are supposed to be keeping each other accountable.

[Max]

Yeah. This link that you sent me worked.

[Big Cat]

We're. We're still doing a show.

[Max]

Sorry. 44.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Max]

99.

[PFT Commenter]

Poke 22.

[Big Cat]

8 i41. What did you have three? That's right, memes. You have four.

[Memes]

Four.

[Big Cat]

Good luck, Baconator. Have you ever gotten it? Memes? Have you ever gotten the number? Memes. Have you ever gotten this? Have you ever, ever gotten this?

[Memes]

For myself? No.

[Big Cat]

Okay, that's what I thought.

[PFT Commenter]

But I have gotten it.

[Big Cat]

You're never gonna get it either. 74. Damn.

[Memes]

We get it.

[Big Cat]

You're never gonna get it. Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys.

[Memes]

You're just coping for the Cubs losing.

[Big Cat]

No, you're never going to get it.

[Memes]

We'll see.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't pre cope him.

[Big Cat]

He's pre coping. No.

[Memes]

What do you mean? It already happened.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you can't pre cope.

[Memes]

It already happened.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it hasn't.

[Memes]

Yes, it has. We're in the.

[PFT Commenter]

What time is it?

[Big Cat]

Where?

[Memes]

This is Friday.

[PFT Commenter]

Friday, brother. Free coke is crazy.

[Hank]

Love you guys.