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NFL Week 7, Fastest 2 Minutes, Broncos Historic Comeback, Colts Domination, Commanders Down Bad + Shohei's Greatest Single Game Performance Ever And Who's Back Of The Week
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PFT Commenter
Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Folks, it's the foreplay guys. Let's talk Truly Unruly. When you spend every day following the countless laws of golf like us, it's refreshing to get a little unruly. Whether that means using the old hand wedge to escape the bunker or just cracking open a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules, few things feel better. Truly Unruly is the first high alk seltzer that actually tastes good. It's hard hitting, but still light and refreshing, making it perfect for everything from the front nine to the clubhouse. Find it near you at trulyhardselter.com Locations. That's trulyhardselter.com Locations Hard Seltzer Beverage Co. Boston, MA Please drink responsibly on today's part of my take presented by DraftKings Week 7 in the NFL we're going to recap every game. We had a wild, wild finish out in Denver. We had not not great games to start the slate, but the afternoon was incredible. Some high scoring games. We're going to talk Sunday Night Football. We got who's back of the week. We have some playoff baseball talk. Couple more coaches got fired which we'll get to in the college ranks. And it's all brought to you by our friends at Microsoft. Microsoft Copilot is your ultimate caddy, guiding you through life with powerful AI driven tools designed to make your day easier and more productive. Just like a trusted caddy on the golf course, copilot helps you stay on track, offering real time insights, smart recommendations and simplifying complex tasks with with co Pilot Vision, you can analyze images and visuals instantly, saving time and improving accuracy. Copilot Image Generation lets you create personalized, high quality visuals in seconds, whether it's for work, play or anything in between. And with Copilot Voice, you have an AI companion that handles everything from answering questions to organizing your day, all with natural, easy to understand interactions ready to make life easier. Scan the QR code to download Microsoft Copilot today and let your AI companion help you stay organized, creative and productive. Whether you're tackling tasks, generating visuals or getting real time insights, Copilot has your back every step of the way. Get started now and experience the future of productivity with Microsoft Copilot. Okay, let's go. Welcome to Part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, October 20th, week seven. What?
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Zach
What.
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PFT Commenter
What are you gonna be for Halloween Teege.
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Zach
I'm going to go as a person with a gun in his mouth because football was. Football is stupid and nobody should watch it.
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PFT Commenter
We get dark early. All right, we start in London where the Jaguars took on the Rams as Trevor Lawrence tried his best to spread the idea of football overseas, not the actual play on the pitch. Matthew Staff Rob Ford, who didn't eat the pussy. He has more than enough at home. T gave the cats a licking, easily finding the cracks in the secondary. Devonte John Adams gained American independence from the Jaguars defense, scoring three times. And Sean McClub Shay Shay hit it from all positions as the Rams routed the Jaguars. Rams 35, Jaguars 7.
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Zach
We go over to sunny Cleveland, Ohio, where the Polynesian quarterbacks Tagoviola and Gabriel were a couple island boys leaving Miami fans asking to Hawaii throw all those interceptions. Quinshawn Connery Judkins was pounding the rock, looking at McDaniels saying, losers complain about trying their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. The Dolphins tried to fight back, but Mike McDaniel pulled his biking pants up high. And the cycle continues for Miami as D. Eskridge wasn't very Armstrong losing one of his balls. The Cleveland defense feasted as Tyson Campbell was chicken soup for the brown soul, getting a pick six as Andrew Berry proclaimed, I would draft 500 miles garretts and I would draft 500 more just to be the man who got McDaniels fired to make people forget Flacco. Da da da da da da da.
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PFT Commenter
Da da da da da da da.
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Zach
Da da da da da da da da da da. I'm going as Budweir for Halloween. Cleveland steamer the Dolphins 316 to Kansas.
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PFT Commenter
City where Zack was on the scene in Kansas City. Patrick Starr Mahomes firmly grasps it and throws it to Raji Rice Krispie Treat who snap crackles and pops his way right into the end zone to kick things off Patrick. Trick or treat. Mahomes jump scares the Raiders defense with a spooky shot short right to Hollywood Walk of Fame Brown as he stares straight into the end zone. Later, Patrick Mahohohomes. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. Shoots a pass gift wrapped in Rashi rice paper down Oakland's chimney for another six points. Neil Patrick Harris Mahomes told quite the story today, but it wasn't about anyone meeting your mother. And it was all about kicking raider ass. Chiefs 31, Oakland 0. Thanks, Zach. Up to Minnesota for Max.
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Max
We head over to Minnesota where Carson Wednesday Battams had Vikings fans saying he's.
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PFT Commenter
Creepy and he's kooky, mysterious and loopy.
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Max
He's all together poopy Wednesday badam should be QB3. Do do do do do Vic Fangio was screaming you're beautiful to Jalen James.
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PFT Commenter
Blunt when he secured the early pick.
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Max
Six to extend the Eagles lead. On the other side of the ball, the Eagles had a very obvious game plan. Devonta Mack Smith no matter what as he exploded for a career day with 183 yards and a TUD. Plus while a Jason Aldean was on the verge of burning the team down, he finally broke out for two touchdowns and over 100 yards, including a late dagger to win the game.
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PFT Commenter
Eagles 28, Broncos 22 thanks Max in Chicago, where there were concerns Ben Mintz Johnson was going to be lazy this week in preparation for New Orleans concerned too much about the wide spread of four and a half points. But Jake Moody saved the day and looked past any of his ole misses going 4 for 4. Spencer Prattler stumbled back down the hills he's been trying to climb as a pro, throwing three interceptions, hitting Nayshaan right stuff baby. Kevin stomped the Bayard and Kenny Kenny Tremaine Edmonds Sorry that last one sucked dick Some are saying the Bears may be back as they go marching on the saints. Bears 26, saints 14 and then we go down to Nashville where Hank was.
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Zach
There in Nash Vegas the Titans started off hot when Team Ray D.K.
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PFT Commenter
Mutombo said no no no no to.
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Zach
Marcus Jones as he zoomed past him into the end zone to give the Titans an early lead in the second quarter. Drake May VP connected with Austin.
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PFT Commenter
Did you put a tongue in her hooper for seven and then Khawn white.
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Zach
Booty hit a steezy double McQuist 39 yarder to give the pass.
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PFT Commenter
The lead headed into the locker room in the second half. Randre Agassiz Stevenson said after rushing into.
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Zach
The end zone for six and then Cam Mickey Ward looked like he got.
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PFT Commenter
Hit in his head body head body.
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Hank
After fumbling the ball to give the.
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Zach
Defensive TD to the Pats.
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PFT Commenter
Patrick Marching 31:13 Sticking in the AFC east memes and the Panthers jets in.
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Memes
New Jersey the Panthers defense was waking up hard because Miso JC Hornay who who who was who was the lead member of the two pick crew and holding the jets offense to no touchdowns on the day, Xavier Musketeers Leggett put on a strong performance in Big East Rutherford with a touchdown set up by Chuba Duba do on a screen. It truly was a pick him on the field as Rico Daddle got put back on the meds by the jets defense that resulted in the numbers being down. As for the jets offense, Breece hall and Oates said, you're making my dreams come true by taking Justin to a fields upstate and putting him out of his fucking misery and replaced him with Tyrod Taylor Swift who just released a new song with Wood which isn't about Travis Kelce's enormous it's actually about the jets owner who fucks an entire fan base year after year. Jets lose Panthers 13, Jets 6 great job memes.
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Zach
We go down to Big D where George Pickens pot pie was burning Marcus Lattice Moore over the top from the start, making Marshawn eat his ass crust first. I did Marshawn and Marcus there. The Jaden Daniel Son was in the face of the Commanders with a murderous row of wide receivers, Robbie Josen, Jalen Lane and Chris Moore. Which is ironic because you got speedster Kevonte Turpin behind a wheel and you think wow, instead of driving on the median, that guy should have chosen Moore Lane. The Cowboys kept their foot on the gas finding ACDC Lamb who's back to catching more TDs and the Dundee Jeep Multi D Sandeep Bodak Yellow. Prescott was making a Commie's defense look like Cardi B trying to run Cartio. Meanwhile, Terry McLaurin is going to have to sit on that wet ass peloton all week if he wants to get back on the practice field. The Commanders are back to being the worst team in the NFC and nothing burgundy and gold can ever stay. Washington fans were so happy last year because finally one good thing happened to them and now they're back to being bad at football and the Chiefs are going to the super bowl again. Max is laughing because the Eagles are still good. The Nats are in Year one again of a Year seven rebuild. Georgetown basketball sucks. Always retiring. Josh Harris was in the Epstein files, even though it was just because he didn't like Epstein and basically fired the CEO of the Carlyle Group for being close with Epstein. But people won't do enough research. Oh well, at least we still have the Washington Wizards, Dallas a lot. Commanders a little standing on the corner. Jameis Winston in Hoboken. Such a fine sight to see. It's a Giants tight, my Lord, going in for more. No way The Browns can score 33.
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PFT Commenter
Come on Bo.
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Zach
Knicks, won't you please throw picks? There's no chance in hell that we choke this.
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PFT Commenter
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Zach
I think it was half them doing this because they had the Puka thing and then half doing this because McVeigh knows that Cohen knows everything that he knows from the Rams offense. Yes. So he was preparing for the Rams offense that he used to be part of and then he just rolled something completely new out there. I saw somebody point out this is exactly what Belichick did to McVeigh in that Super Bowl.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Zach
Where they just. Where. Where they suffocated the Rams and they couldn't get anything going. That's exactly what McVeigh then in turn did today to Liam Cohen and the Jaguars.
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PFT Commenter
Do you know, by the way, Sean McVeigh, looking at the stats, you know, he's five and seven against his assistants, but he's five and two against all assistants not named Matt Laflor. Oh, he's 05 against Matt Laflore.
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Zach
I did not realize.
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PFT Commenter
Five and two against assistants not named Matt Laflore.
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Zach
Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I also think that McVeigh might have just hacked the entire globe. I think time zones might not exist anymore. Yeah, because he just, he flew in like the Rams parachuted into England on Saturday, Saturday morning and then they just like slept there one night and then they. There's also a chance that McVeigh. Well, we know that he's an awl that he listens to. Part of my take. Every time we say it's time to set the clocks forward an hour, McVay might actually do that.
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PFT Commenter
So he's just off anyway.
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Zach
So he's just been on London time for like the last three weeks. Yeah, he's just been five hours ahead.
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PFT Commenter
By the way, I was wrong again. It is next weekend. So Stafford five touchdowns. It like, it. I, I feel like he could have even had a better day. But they kind of just went into. We have won this game. When they were up 21 nothing at half and the entire game after the rams went up 21 nothing was the Jaguars. Every time you looked up at the TV, the Jaguars were failing a fourth down or like getting. Driving the ball and getting zero points. They went six straight drives where they got past the 50 yard line and got zero points out of those six straight drives they went to the 45, the Rams 45 punt to the Rams 32 miss field goal to the Rams 11 turnover on downs. To the Rams 30 turnover on downs. The Rams 27 turnover on downs. To the Rams 48 punt. Six straight drives where they went past half field and got zero points. It was abysmal to watch.
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Zach
Yeah. After they missed that field goal, I think Liam Cohen just made the choice like we're just going to go for it every time. And then it just never worked for them. And it, it kept failing for different reasons each time. That's why it's so hard to place like any, any one person with the blame for the Jaguars because Trevor Lawrence, he. He does just stupid stuff sometimes.
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PFT Commenter
I. So I threw this out to you earlier today. I think he's the most sackable quarterback we have and I say that so he got sacked seven times. I think he got sacked. I think he's been sacked 14 times the last two games. I say that not like it's not like late Eli Manning where he would do self sacks. Trevor Lawrence can run a little bit. Trevor Lawrence is athletic. Trevor Lawrence, I think is, oh, for 100. On spin moves that don't work, he, like, he'll spin or try to sidestep and a guy will get one arm on him and he'll be sacked.
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Zach
I think I know what the reason is because he does that spin move.
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PFT Commenter
A lot and it never works.
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Zach
The quarterbacks that are able to do the spin move and it works. The. The pass rusher doesn't know that he's about to spin, right? With Trevor Lawrence, he, like, looks too much at the blitzer that's coming in where he's pretending to look out of, like, the side of his eye, but he turns his head a little bit and the guy's like, oh, this guy knows that I'm coming right now. A really good quarterback will just, like, kind of stare straight ahead and the blitzer won't know that he's about to spin. Trevor doesn't do any of that.
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PFT Commenter
No, he doesn't.
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Zach
He never does that. But yeah, I mean, he forgets where he is on the field more than any other quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, he misses some throws. He makes a lot of throws. But it. It feels like the Jaguars are never in sync with each other. No, they're never in sync. Like, when Trevor makes a good pass, that's when Brian Thomas just, like, completely forgets how to catch a football. They've been over in London so much, they forget that they're allowed to use their hands. And he'll just, like, drop it off his fingertips or hear the footsteps or whatever. Just somebody new screws up each time. And it's very hard to put your finger on exactly what the problem is in Jackson.
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PFT Commenter
The.
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Zach
The.
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PFT Commenter
The. Liam Cohen summed it up perfectly. Exactly what you just said after the game. He said everything. Everything we said we didn't want to do did occur. Yeah, that's right.
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Zach
Maybe Stop saying maybe. Stop living in your fears.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, don't say what you don't want to do, because then you'll start thinking about it and be like, I'm gonna do this.
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Zach
He did the actual. Like, be. Be a real shame if. If cardi missed a 34 yard field goal today.
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PFT Commenter
Right. It would be a real shame if. If Brian Thomas Jr. Missed another catch over the middle of the field. By the way, the stats on that catchable targets over the middle of the field to Brian Thomas Jr. This year have a negative 17.1 completion percentage over expected this season. I don't really understand how this stat works, but I know that when you have negative 17.1 completion percentage over expected. That's bad.
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Zach
Yeah. My takeaway from this game is just Jaguars just get Travis onto the ball more.
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PFT Commenter
Did they unlock him?
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Zach
They unlocked Travis Hunter at the end of the game.
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PFT Commenter
He scored his first touchdown because he's locked in.
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Zach
He didn't get baptized before this game. Yep. When there was just one footprint in the sand. That's when I was burning Jesus on a double move now. And it worked out.
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PFT Commenter
Now did it happen? Maybe because it was garbage time.
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Zach
I. I still think he was the. He was the biggest bright spot of the day.
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PFT Commenter
Absolutely.
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Zach
And he played pretty good on defense, too.
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PFT Commenter
They also. We also have a classic who actually won the game debate that we can do. And I'm referring to Monday Night Football. Jaguars versus the Chiefs. So Monday Night Football Jags get the biggest win, regular season win in maybe franchise history, but at least in the last 10 years or whatever you want to call it. Since that game. The Jaguars are 0 2, being outscored 55 to 19. The Chiefs are 2 and oh. Outscoring their opponents 61 to 17. Who won that game?
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Zach
At what cost?
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PFT Commenter
The Chiefs won that game.
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Zach
Yeah. Smart move. Heady move by the Chiefs.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Great job to let Trevor Lawrence find a way into the end zone at the end of that game.
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Zach
Great job throwing that pick. Yeah. This. This game, it again, should remind us that the. The rams are now 12 and 3 in their last 15 against the spread.
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PFT Commenter
They're really good.
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Zach
Pretty impressive win. Matt Stafford, after the game, he was talking about throwing five touchdowns. His response was, do I get a sword or something? Like for throwing five touchdowns in England?
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PFT Commenter
Why don't they.
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Zach
I think we should. I think we should send him a sword.
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PFT Commenter
He should have to get it out of a stone.
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Zach
Yeah. I think. I actually think that we should send him a sword.
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PFT Commenter
We should send him a sword.
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Zach
Is that legal?
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PFT Commenter
Can you send a.
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Zach
To mail a sword?
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PFT Commenter
Let's mail him a sword. Let's mail it to Jerry and Jerry o' Connell will give it to him because he's like buddy, Buddy with him. Goes on their podcast.
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Zach
Yeah. Next time he's on with Kelly, he'll just walk in the door carrying a sword.
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PFT Commenter
I think he's a recurring. I think he's a co host.
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Zach
Yeah, he's a member.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. But yeah, the Rams are really good. The Jaguars. I. So I think that. I think both teams have a buy coming up. The Jaguars need it badly because they started hot and they have not looked good the last two weeks. The Rams are 100% in Super bowl contender territory. Would you agree?
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Zach
I would agree.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. They, they, they, they play next so they have a buy. Then they play the Saints at home. And then, then they have like a tough little stretch where they play the Niners, Seahawks and Bucks. But I'm not. The Rams are for real. For real. They basically are in the. Can we get everyone healthy for the playoffs? Can we be healthy when the playoffs come around? Because their defense is ferocious. Matthew Stafford is still just as good as ever. If Puka Naku is out there, he cannot be, like, touched. And we turned found out they can just run three tight ends every single play if they want to.
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Zach
Yeah, it doesn't matter. They can practice for a full week on a baseball field. That way playing on a soccer field feels easy to them. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Nothing matters to these Rams. They're going to be. Yes. Super bowl contenders.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Devonte Adams, too. Yeah. Like three touchdowns. He was awesome. He's still very good. Also, here's a weird stat. When Trevor Lawrence. So this season, when Trevor Lawrence throws for 250 passing yards or more, the Jaguars are. Oh, and three. When he throws under 250 passing yards, they are four.
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Zach
No, I mean, it makes sense to me.
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PFT Commenter
That's not. Probably not what you want, your quarterback, but, you know, just a little more balance.
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Zach
I got a question for you about the Jaguars and the number one overall draft pick. Was that 2023. Do you remember his name? Is he the most. I know his name, but do you know.
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PFT Commenter
Are you talking about Josh Allen?
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Zach
No.
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PFT Commenter
You're talking about.
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Zach
He's the most forgettable number one overall pick, I think maybe in the history.
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PFT Commenter
Georgia.
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Zach
Yeah. Georgia.
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PFT Commenter
I know his name.
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Zach
Max, you know his name. Memes. You know his name, right? Your Georgia guy.
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PFT Commenter
Yes.
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Zach
Trayvon Walker. I think he's got to be the most forgettable number one overall pick ever.
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PFT Commenter
It was two years ago.
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Zach
It was two years ago.
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PFT Commenter
He isn't terrible.
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Zach
He's. No, that's the thing. Like, I looked up his stats.
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PFT Commenter
It was 20, 22.
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Zach
He's not bad, but. Yeah, but he, but he's not like, he doesn't do those flashes of. Well, it's just spectacular.
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PFT Commenter
It's also just weird now we're in a day and age where it's just like, if you, if you don't go QB1 overall, you don't remember it. Yeah, it's like you can go back and. Was it, was it Eric Fisher?
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Zach
Yeah, Eric Fisher was one of those guys. And I didn't, I didn't realize this, but his name his first name is. Actually jury.
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PFT Commenter
Was Jake Long. First pick.
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Zach
Yeah. Chris Long's brother.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. For the Dolphins. Yeah, we should just do that. Just remembering guys who got picked first overall.
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Zach
His name is Yuri Walker. Yuri Trayvon. I feel like that would be a much more memorable name if he went by Yuri.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that would def. We. It would absolutely stick.
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Zach
Just call him Yuri Walker.
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PFT Commenter
All right, I'm going to look up real quick so we can go down a little rabbit hole. Because. Because this, this is an interesting thing to think about. Like, when you. When it's not a qb, can you always remember it? So Cam Ward, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, Trayvon Walker, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Miles Garrett. We remember Jadavian. Eric Fisher in 2013, Jake Long in 2008, Mario Williams. I feel like we remember that just because it was the Reggie Bush debate. And then you go all the way back. Courtney Brown in 2000. Yeah. You gotta, like, keep going. It's just always quarterbacks.
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Zach
And you're right. Yeah. And I think that if you play in Jacksonville, that, that also adds like an extra level to it where people don't talk about the Jaguars that much in the, in the national media. Yeah, this. I feel bad for Jaguars fans that have to lose this game to. To London every single year. Multiple games at times.
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PFT Commenter
But it's their home game.
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Zach
It's their home game. I did look in the crowd. I saw a lot of just NFL Shield merchandise. I feel like I think they were industry plants.
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PFT Commenter
Am I. Am I making it up? But it does feel like the Jaguars are the only team that gets the 50. Like the decal in the, in the 50 yard line. I feel like a lot of times it's the NFL Shield. They had the. They had the Jaguars.
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Zach
Yeah. Because that's theirs.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. London is theirs.
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Zach
They could afford to ship the stencil overseas.
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PFT Commenter
Hank, because you love these games so much. What was your favorite part about this game?
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Hank
I watched the first half and then it was over and I stopped watching.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Hank
I. I liked. I don't know.
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PFT Commenter
That's gonna hurt the ratings. It might not go back.
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Zach
Yeah.
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Hank
I want a Super bowl in London. The early morning games.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, whatever. So we finally got you turned a little bit.
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Zach
Wait, what time. What time would they play the super bowl over there?
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PFT Commenter
They would.
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Hank
It would air prime time.
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PFT Commenter
We can't do this again. We can't do this again. But you. You agree? It's just too much. It was. It was a nice treat. Now it's just.
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Hank
They got to do it like, they can't do it back to back to back to back to back.
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Max
I know.
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Hank
We talked about it.
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PFT Commenter
They're gonna do it every single week soon.
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Hank
But they. Or just start doing London night football.
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PFT Commenter
London football. You're right.
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Zach
This was the last. The last England game of the year. Next up, we got Germany and then Spain, and then we're done.
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Hank
Spain's gonna be a movie.
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PFT Commenter
It was. It is gonna be a movie. It was. I took a shower at one point during this game, and I think I timed it perfectly for a turnover on downs and. All right, I'm gonna go take a shower. And I came back out and it was another turnover. On doubts.
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Zach
Yeah, it was a lot.
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PFT Commenter
Well, that was perfect.
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Zach
It was a lot of that going on.
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PFT Commenter
I guess. I guess I will say something nice about the Jags. You made it so that we could kind of half watch the second half. Like, I tuned in for the first half. I was like, all right, let's get. Let's get going. Let's get some football going. And then it was so clear. Clear that the Jaguars sucked and the Rams were going to win that the second half, I was able to, like, keep a side eye on.
- [25:19]
Zach
Yeah, you didn't really have to focus that much on this game. It never. It never felt like it was close.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. What? What. What's up?
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Max
Can I say something to Trust Tree?
- [25:27]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, please. Trust Tree. You didn't watch Second of it.
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Max
I didn't know this game existed until you guys started talking.
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Zach
Oh, really?
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PFT Commenter
You didn't.
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Zach
You thought they were on.
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PFT Commenter
You didn't even see a highlight.
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Max
I thought they were on buys. I didn't see. I didn't see.
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PFT Commenter
I mean, you didn't see a highlight.
- [25:40]
Max
I saw nothing.
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Zach
The highlights were basically. Devonte Adams made another touchdown catch. Yeah, it was a lot of that.
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Max
The one thing I'm. I was just looking at the box score. I feel like that's a. The Jags had a decent amount of yards for only seven points and no turnovers. I don't. I don't get how they only had seven points.
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Zach
Well, they turned the ball over a bunch on down on downs, which is also a turnover.
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PFT Commenter
I guess that's very funny that you somehow went the entire day.
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Max
I had no idea this game.
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PFT Commenter
But that's also. And this is a good segue. That's also because Max, when the Eagles win, he spends the rest of the day, like, yucking it up with everyone. Like, he's like the mayor of this. This office. Yeah. Even admitted it, he was like, if the Eagles had lost that game, I'd just be playing Pokemon in the PMT studio right now. Instead, he was like slapping. Slapping people on the back, just being like, this is so much fun.
- [26:31]
Zach
He does.
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PFT Commenter
He just.
- [26:32]
Zach
He just walks around. He's the. Max becomes the king of small talk in this office if the Eagles win.
- [26:37]
Max
My mood is just so. I'm so much.
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PFT Commenter
It's okay. Don't apologize for it. So that's the next game. Eagles 28, Vikings 22. We should talk about the Eagles, obviously, because Jalen Hurts played great, but Carson Wentz, what a Carson Wentz performance in that first half especially. He was. He went back to back picks, and the only reason it was back to back interceptions, one of them being a pick six, was that the. The. The play in. In between the interceptions was actually a fumble because he threw it backwards eight yards.
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Zach
Yeah. Incomplete pass.
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PFT Commenter
It was three plays. No, it wasn't incomplete pass. It was a fumble.
- [27:14]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah, but he threw it incomplete, like out of bounds, and it counted as a fumble.
- [27:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it didn't count as a pass attempt because it was a fumble. So that was. It was interception minus 8 yards. Fumble. Interception.
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Zach
Yeah, the. The first interception was very funny. He got folded in half by Jalen Carter and then just laid on the ground for. I. I realized something watching this game, Max, and I can't control how I feel. Feelings are never wrong. It's how we react to our feelings that can be wrong. I think I enjoy rooting against Carson Wentz more than I enjoy rooting against the Eagles, because watching this game, I found my allegiance going against Carson Wentz. Like, I wasn't happy that the Eagles were winning, but I was like, I was hoping for worse and worse stuff to happen to Carson Wentz every time he dropped back to pass. I think I'll just. Having him as your quarterback will leave a deep scar on you that you will never forget. It was very funny the way that you were treating him.
- [28:07]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah. There's multiple times where Max was just like saying Carson Wentz then belly laughing.
- [28:13]
Zach
Yeah, well.
- [28:14]
PFT Commenter
Oh, there was Jalen Carter hit. Yeah. The hit you made everyone in the gambling key. You're like, everyone, watch this.
- [28:19]
Zach
Yeah, it was funny.
- [28:20]
PFT Commenter
It was so furious.
- [28:21]
Max
And then you saw his face, like right after as he was getting hit was. It was awesome.
- [28:26]
Zach
Yeah, I. I've got a little. A little game that we can play here. It's called Schefter versus Schefter. You ready for this?
- [28:32]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
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Zach
New game alert. This is what Schefter this is what Schefter tweeted out today. When Vikings quarterback J.J. mcCarthy suffered a week two high ankle sprain, doctors expected it to be a six week injury. Nothing has changed. It still looks like a six week injury. Which means McCarthy would miss next week and possibly be able to return in week nine at Detroit. That's Schefter number one. Now entering the arena is Adam Schefter number two. This is back from the day that the day after J.J. mcCarthy actually sprained his ankle. ESPN sources. Vikings quarterback J.J. mcCarthy is expected to be sidelined two to four weeks with a high ankle sprain. But wait, Adam, but just today you said when it happened, doctors expected to be a six week injury and nothing has changed. It still looks like a six week injury.
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PFT Commenter
Huh?
- [29:25]
Zach
What is going on?
- [29:26]
PFT Commenter
He got Community noted.
- [29:27]
Zach
He got Community with his own tweet now. Why, why did the timeline change, Adam?
- [29:33]
PFT Commenter
Huh?
- [29:33]
Zach
Let's unpack that. I have a theory.
- [29:36]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [29:36]
Zach
I mean it's probably the same as all of your guys theories. I thought something was kind of weird in Minnesota when they, they kind of cycled through a bunch of backup quarterbacks over the summer. And my theory that I, I asked Flory about at the time and he laughed at me like I was a fool, was that they just don't want J.J. mcCarthy to feel like there's any pressure on him in case he has to. In case he doesn't start out the season playing well.
- [30:03]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [30:04]
Zach
And he got injured. It was a real injury, but I don't think it was a six to eight week injury when he sprained his ankle. And then they put Carson Wentz and. Who is the most stopgap quarterback ever.
- [30:15]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [30:16]
Zach
You know that you're going to have these types of games from Carson Wentz and nobody out there is going to say Carson Wentz should be starting over J.J. mcCarthy.
- [30:22]
PFT Commenter
Correct.
- [30:23]
Zach
And now they're just really taking their time bringing JJ Back after playing. He had one great quarter that he played against the Bears.
- [30:29]
PFT Commenter
Yes, he did.
- [30:29]
Zach
But besides that, he hasn't really looked. He hasn't really done anything to be excited about.
- [30:33]
PFT Commenter
Nope.
- [30:34]
Zach
Since he started. I think that that's, that plays into how o' Connell is handling the situation right now where it's just like we need this guy to take more time.
- [30:43]
PFT Commenter
Here's, here's the other theory. And, and we all do this when you maybe make a mistake and you don't really want to face that mistake. You're like, oh, I have to, I have to go. I have to do something. I have to go, you know, go to the dmv. I up. Or I have to go fight this ticket. I. I'm gonna keep putting it off as long as I possibly can.
- [31:03]
Zach
Until they tell your car.
- [31:04]
PFT Commenter
Until they tell your car. Because I don't want to admit that I made a mistake.
- [31:07]
Zach
Yep.
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PFT Commenter
They don't have to face the fact that they didn't resign Sam Darnold until JJ McCarthy officially sucks. And if he doesn't play, you can never say he officially sucks.
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Zach
Well, they had.
- [31:17]
PFT Commenter
And I don't think he sucks. We'll see. He's young. He's got to play. Like, I'm not saying jj, but I'm saying if he sucks, they don't have to. And they might know he sucks. They might think he sucks through practice, whatever, but they don't actually have to face that fact if he's not playing.
- [31:30]
Zach
I mean, everything we know about J.J. mcCarthy would be. This guy would, like, step over a dead body to get back out onto the field.
- [31:36]
PFT Commenter
Correct.
- [31:37]
Zach
And this seems like a long injury form. Not only. Not only Sam Darnold, they had Daniel Jones, too, in the building.
- [31:43]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [31:43]
Zach
Now, I don't know if they would have ever dreamed of paying him as much as the Colts did, but it was still an option. They had. They had Darnold, they had Daniel Jones, they had some other backups that came in and out.
- [31:54]
PFT Commenter
It.
- [31:54]
Zach
It just seems kind of strange.
- [31:56]
PFT Commenter
And. And listen, as bad as the Carson Wentz first half was, it was the Vikings defense that was. Was not good today because they have a good defense. They have. I think going into the game, they had the second best passing defense in terms of passing yards. Loud. And Jalen Hurts had maybe his best game in a long time, at least. What would you say, Max? Jalen Hurts was phenomenal today. He had a perfect, perfect passer rating. That's the third time ever in Eagles history. The other two, McNabb and Foals, he was 5 for 5, 216 yards, three touchdowns on passes over 20 yards. He was dropping absolute dimes. He also didn't have any rush yards.
- [32:39]
Max
He actually had negative 10 rush yards.
- [32:40]
PFT Commenter
Negative 10. He looks like it was from that.
- [32:42]
Max
The last couple plays when they were trying to kill time.
- [32:45]
Zach
He never even thought about running the football today. He just sometimes where it was open, he could have gotten like 6, 7 yards without breaking a sweat. And he was just like, no, I'm not going to do that today.
- [32:55]
Max
No.
- [32:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he.
- [32:55]
Max
I think this was his best regular season game of his career. When we, like really, really needed in.
- [33:01]
Zach
He was really good. The deep balls were awesome.
- [33:03]
Max
For some reason, Jalen Hurts always plays his best football when everyone says that he sucks.
- [33:08]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [33:08]
Max
The entire.
- [33:09]
PFT Commenter
So wait, so you should. When we say he sucks, you shouldn't get mad.
- [33:13]
Max
Yeah. Yeah.
- [33:14]
PFT Commenter
We. We're. We're. We're doing you a favor.
- [33:17]
Max
Yeah. I think. I think even I said that he sucked. I. I did definitely.
- [33:19]
PFT Commenter
I think I did definitely said he sucked.
- [33:21]
Max
I think I did add right now. I think I did add a right now.
- [33:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [33:24]
Max
But said that I shouldn't be held accountable for anything that I said that episode because it was right after the Phillies loss.
- [33:30]
PFT Commenter
That's true. He was 19 for 23, 326 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Was hitting Devonte Smith, was hitting A.J. brown. Everything looked like it worked except for the run game, which still looks like.
- [33:43]
Max
Run game was a problem. Cam Jergens being out could be. Could be a big issue going forward. Hopefully he can get back soon.
- [33:50]
PFT Commenter
But overall, very good game for the Eagles. Are you happy because this was your must win or you're burning it all down game?
- [33:57]
Zach
Yeah.
- [33:58]
Max
No, and it looked like that. It looked like they needed. They knew that they needed to win this game and get and write the ship because if they lost this game to Carson Wentz and looked as bad as they did against the Giants, I think that locker room would have just absolutely crumbled. Yeah.
- [34:13]
Zach
Yeah. I mean, your game plan today after. After Jurgens went out was basically like, let's do everything that we can to keep our wide receivers very happy with the offense. And it works. It works. The offense is good enough where you don't need jurgens all the time.
- [34:27]
Max
183 from Devonte, 121 from A.J. we'll take that all day.
- [34:31]
Zach
You know who else doesn't need Jurgens right now?
- [34:33]
Max
Who's that?
- [34:34]
Zach
Mr. Racini.
- [34:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [34:36]
Zach
Probably pretty happy. Probably pretty happy night.
- [34:38]
Max
Yeah.
- [34:38]
Zach
In the Birds household.
- [34:39]
Max
It was a good night. I would like to see if. If the locker room is. Is dysfunctional.
- [34:45]
PFT Commenter
Okay. By the way, I have a question for you, Max, and this is not great game by the Eagles.
- [34:52]
Max
What going to be. There's going to be some bullshit?
- [34:54]
PFT Commenter
It's just a question. Can I ask a question? Can we. Can we speak in truth?
- [34:58]
Zach
Wait, can I ask you a question first?
- [35:00]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [35:00]
Zach
Is this about to be some bullshit?
- [35:01]
PFT Commenter
No, it's not.
- [35:02]
Zach
Okay. All right.
- [35:05]
PFT Commenter
Why does Jalen hurts talk like he's a fortune cookie.
- [35:09]
Zach
Yeah. Good question.
- [35:10]
PFT Commenter
Thank you.
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Max
He can talk as he can talk however he Wants.
- [35:14]
PFT Commenter
So. So on Friday, I brought up, he had the quote, smile and accept a challenge. That's a fortune cookie. And then today he had. It's not a time to hope. It's not a time to want or wish something could happen. It's a time to make it happen. That is a fortune cookie.
- [35:31]
Zach
You.
- [35:32]
PFT Commenter
Jalen Hurts talks.
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Max
You don't know wisdom.
- [35:35]
PFT Commenter
Does he have a little. Okay, this is actually the heart. So fortune cookie talk by Jalen Hurts actually is something.
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Hank
Sometimes cliches play, though.
- [35:42]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's not a cliche. It's not a time to hope. It's not a time to want or wish something could happen. It's time to make it happen.
- [35:49]
Max
That's a. That's a well spoken man right there.
- [35:51]
PFT Commenter
I feel like I look, we can have some fun with this after. He had an incredible day. He was incredible. Today I'm giving Jalen Hurts his flowers. I'm just wondering why he keeps handing me back a fortune cookie. The hard question. So I'm gonna be monitoring this. I think it's very funny. I think it'd be funny if he just leans into it and just does only fortune cookie talk. The thing I'd be nervous about if I were you, Max, is these type of quotes are like some early, early signs of Russell Wilson. That's when you've. That's. That's. That's when you start seeing. You're like, oh, is this. Do we got a Russell? He's always sitting in the locker room. Yeah, I know, but we should make.
- [36:29]
Max
Jalen Hurts fortune cookies.
- [36:31]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [36:31]
Max
Just take all of his quotes and put them and make them fortune cookies.
- [36:36]
PFT Commenter
I'm saying it in a nice. Like, he had an incredible day. I like Jalen Hurts as a quarterback. He's a Super bowl champion. Super bowl mvp. Seems like an awesome dude. Guy just likes to talk in fortune cookies.
- [36:46]
Zach
And there's nothing wrong with that if you're winning.
- [36:47]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [36:48]
Zach
Because if you're winning, everybody sees these weird quotes and they're like, I'm so bought in this guy. This guy's operating on a different level. And the second it doesn't work, you're like, wow, that guy's kind of a cornball. Maybe we should bench him for Kirk Cousins. This is what happens.
- [37:02]
PFT Commenter
Yes. He's talking about RG3.
- [37:05]
Zach
I was talking about RG3.
- [37:06]
PFT Commenter
He's talking about RG3.
- [37:07]
Max
Yeah. No, that didn't. That's not going to happen.
- [37:09]
Zach
It's not?
- [37:09]
PFT Commenter
No, it's not. It's not.
- [37:10]
Zach
Because he's he's good enough.
- [37:12]
Max
Yeah.
- [37:12]
Zach
He can say whatever he wants.
- [37:14]
Max
Yeah, he had a great game.
- [37:15]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he had a great game.
- [37:16]
Zach
He could just recite, like, the Zodiac letters in his postgame press conference and everybody be like, yep, go Birds.
- [37:22]
Max
Fine with me.
- [37:23]
PFT Commenter
Also, having Jalen Carter and Quinya Mitchell back was very important. Jalen Carter was a monster in this game.
- [37:30]
Max
That hit. That hit was. I felt. I felt that one in my chest.
- [37:34]
PFT Commenter
Oh, you did?
- [37:35]
Max
Yeah.
- [37:35]
PFT Commenter
How do you feel after that?
- [37:37]
Memes
Fat.
- [37:38]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah. Here's the other one. I just looked. Jalen Hurts quotes. I had a purpose before everybody had an opinion. Yeah, that's a fortune cookie.
- [37:46]
Zach
Yeah, that's like.
- [37:47]
Max
That's a senior quote right there.
- [37:49]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, great quote. I didn't walk through all that fire just to smell the smoke.
- [37:54]
Zach
He's getting these from somewhere.
- [37:55]
PFT Commenter
Lucky numbers. 3, 48. Oh, sorry.
- [37:59]
Zach
Probably 6.
- [38:00]
PFT Commenter
A whiplash in his head.
- [38:04]
Max
Numbers.
- [38:06]
Zach
Let's see. I'm gonna. I'm gonna look up.
- [38:09]
PFT Commenter
We just. We just need as. As. As a national sports podcast. This will be our beat. We just got to be on this beat.
- [38:15]
Max
That's fair.
- [38:15]
PFT Commenter
The people want these type of things. This is what they come to the show for. They don't come for us to. To break down coverages. They come to us to be like, hey, is Jalen Hurst just. Is he just Panda Express? Is he just getting all his quotes from Panda Express?
- [38:28]
Max
Last week, people were real, real, real mad about the fortune cookie responses, and this week, it's fine.
- [38:34]
Zach
Do you remember when Russell Wilson, he. He wrote, talking about Russell. Wait, no, no, no. This is relevant.
- [38:41]
Max
Stop doing that.
- [38:42]
Zach
This is. This is relevant. It's when he. He wrote, like, a Valentine's Day letter to Sierra, and he, like, posted online, and then it. People found out that he just googled what to say to a beautiful woman and just copy and pasted the first response to that, and then he posted for everybody. I feel like Jalen Hurts is heavy into AI and just, like, looking up on AI, like, hey, what are some. What are some good motivational quotes that I could say?
- [39:05]
PFT Commenter
I am humble because I've been humbled.
- [39:07]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah.
- [39:09]
PFT Commenter
I kind of like this. I. I like this.
- [39:14]
Max
Yeah, no, it's. It's. I don't know.
- [39:16]
PFT Commenter
AI quote machine.
- [39:18]
Max
I, I, I'll just keep saying he's wise. He's. He's.
- [39:21]
PFT Commenter
He was awesome today. That's all that needs. He was.
- [39:23]
Zach
He was very good.
- [39:24]
PFT Commenter
Also, did you like Lane Johnson basically saying, I'm not talking to the media because last week, you guys took it out of context. And I'm not hurting our team anymore. That's a good teammate move.
- [39:32]
Max
Love that.
- [39:33]
PFT Commenter
He's just like, we're. I know. I know what's gonna happen if I say anything. So we're just not gonna say anything. We're gonna win games.
- [39:38]
Max
If Lane needs to say anything, he can. He can tell up.
- [39:41]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. That's facts. Yeah. The fake Lane Johnson. I was texting for your Ken as well. If you have anything you want to get off your. Check your chest, man. Just hit me up.
- [39:49]
Zach
Max, what do you think about BG threatening to come back?
- [39:53]
Max
I love it. I don't think. I think he's done, but do you.
- [39:56]
Zach
Think he's done in terms of, like, he. He can't get it done.
- [40:00]
Max
He's old, man. Like, last year, he was good, but you could tell he was looking old, and I. Something tells me he's not, like, staying in game shape.
- [40:11]
Zach
This is actually maybe the best way this could have played out for him. Like, he gets to do one week of being like, maybe I'll come back. And then everybody in Philly's like, yeah, come on. Come on, dude. We. We love you. We miss you. You're the missing piece. And then you win a game. He's like, actually, I'm good. I'm good. I had that moment where I worked out really hard last week, hit the gym a bunch, and now I don't have to come back. But it was fun to think that I was going to come back.
- [40:34]
Max
Agreed.
- [40:35]
Zach
I don't know that that smashing the Brandon Graham button fixes anything.
- [40:38]
Max
Agreed.
- [40:39]
Zach
Yeah.
- [40:39]
Max
I don't. I don't know if he's actually the missing piece.
- [40:42]
PFT Commenter
No, you guys are good. This is a big win.
- [40:45]
Max
We're okay.
- [40:45]
Zach
A great game by Jaylix Hunt, and.
- [40:46]
PFT Commenter
You have the Giants coming up. You got to get revenge. If you beat the Giants, then you're basically like that two, two game blip.
- [40:52]
Zach
Yeah.
- [40:52]
PFT Commenter
Just be like.
- [40:53]
Max
And then we get a buy, and then Nolan Smith comes back. That's. That's. We really need Nolan Smith back.
- [40:59]
Memes
Yeah.
- [40:59]
PFT Commenter
So then just get healthy.
- [41:00]
Max
Get healthy.
- [41:01]
PFT Commenter
Get healthy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. What is up with Cam Jurgens? I feel like you guys get a.
- [41:06]
Max
Knee, and that's the biggest difference between this year and last year is that we just don't have the same depth.
- [41:12]
PFT Commenter
Like, offensive line. Yeah. Makai Becton.
- [41:14]
Max
When guys got hurt last year, we just had enough depth for people for it to be all right. But now it's just not the same.
- [41:21]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, maybe. I mean, Saquon's going to be fresh because he hasn't had a lot of yards. It's not like, yeah, it's not like he's bad, it's just he hasn't. The yards just aren't there though.
- [41:32]
Max
I can see like, he's getting so frustrated because, like he's getting like tough three yard runs.
- [41:39]
PFT Commenter
Right?
- [41:39]
Max
You know what I mean? Like, there were a couple runs today where he should have been stopped in the backfield and then he like fought for 4 yards, which like doesn't look great in the stat sheet. But yeah, it's not his fault.
- [41:50]
Zach
You know what though? He'll be fine. He'll be fine when you need him.
- [41:53]
Max
Yeah, we'll figure it out.
- [41:55]
Hank
Yeah.
- [41:55]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Next up, Bears 26, Saints 14. The Bears have now won four in a row for the first time since 2018. This was an ugly win. Not the cleanest game from Caleb Williams. He didn't play very well. Looked like he had no flow. But the Bears have a somewhat of an identity where their defense is incredible. Taking the ball away. They had four turnovers, takeaways again today. They've had 15 in the last four games. And they run the fuck out of the ball because DeAndre Swift looked awesome. Menangay looked awesome. They had 225 yards. Just shoved it down the Saints throat. And that's a credit to Ben Johnson, who fixed that in the bi week. And the run game looks totally different the last two games than it did the first four. And yeah, it was sloppy, but a win is a win and the gateway remains open.
- [42:48]
Zach
So what is the gateway to?
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PFT Commenter
The gateway is to. When I, when I said it before the Cowboys game, I said, don't be shocked if this team is 6 and 3 or 5, 5 and 4 after nine games. Okay, so they are now 4 and 2. The Gateway is very much open. Big game against the Ravens next week. But yeah, this is. Look, Caleb didn't play well. He said it and he looked, he looked it. He just wasn't. There was weird shit with Drew Dahlman in the center. You know, he's our center, like with snaps. A couple times. Actually one of them saved us because there was the, the. The fourth and goal on the two yard line that this, There was a false start and we got to kick a field goal, which it was a play that was going to get blown up.
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Zach
Are you talking about the one where he snapped the ball between his legs, Caleb touched the ball and then the center brought the ball back between his own legs twice. That's such A weird thing to have.
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PFT Commenter
So. So he did it once that way and then the other way was he, he like moved the ball. Caleb went to get it and then he. But he didn't move the ball and then he tried to snap it. Caleb fell on it. They whistled it. They were like, hey, that's false start. You got to. And then we kicked a field go.
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Zach
He did got your nose with the ball.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Zach
He was like got it.
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PFT Commenter
But that was kind of what the game like. It was sloppy and the run game saved us and the defense saved us. The defense is like kind of good. I don't know. I was taking the ball away.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
I'm always nervous about like when you live and die. Fifteen takeaways in four games is insane. You're not going to be able to do that every single week. So I understand that. But they also are playing that aggressive style where they're ball hawking and yeah, this is a game that they had to win because they're better than the Saints and they won this game. It didn't look great, but that doesn't matter because they won this game. Next week against the Ravens will be a big test and I was happy that they won this game. They also are the only team in the NFL to score 21 plus points in every game this year.
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Zach
That's pretty crazy.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [44:44]
Zach
So you said that they, they've won four in a row. First time since 2018.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [44:49]
Zach
With Mitch, they are averaging 25 points a game.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Zach
That's also for the first time since 2018.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Zach
And they are leading the league in takeaways through this point this year. That is also the first time since 2018.
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PFT Commenter
And similar to 2018. Can the quarterback come along?
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Zach
Feels like 18.
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PFT Commenter
Can the, can the quarterback take. Takes take more steps forward to unlock everything.
- [45:14]
Zach
That's actually not a hashtag you want to use. It feels like 18.
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PFT Commenter
No. Because that was, that was the story of 2018. That defense was incredible and Mitch was young and it was just like can Mitch get better week by week? And Caleb has gotten better in the course of this season. Today was a step back. But that's also. I, I, I've, I've taken a lot more rational approach to the Bears this season. Step backs are not killer, especially when you win the game.
- [45:39]
Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
You can't be down about like a poor performance from Caleb when you win the game.
- [45:43]
Zach
And your running game was very good today again, it's been.
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PFT Commenter
Ben Johnson wants to run the ball. That's what he did in Detroit.
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Zach
That's what you forget about great, like boy genius offensive coordinators is they're very, very good at scheming up the run. Like the crazy plays where he's in his bag and the deep shots, that gets a lot of attention. But elite offensive coordinators just make the running game seem so easy and so smooth. So your running backs, your running backs today as a whole, as a tandem, average 6 1/2 yards per carry.
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PFT Commenter
They were awesome.
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Zach
And DeAndre Swift is back to looking like the DeAndre Swift of old when he was at the peak of his powers.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's running hard. He's. He's hitting the hole hard. He's not dancing around. He's like making the correct cuts. It's. It looks awesome. And he, you know, if this is going to be a team that has to. To get by on defense and running the football and have Caleb slowly progress, I mean that's. If you just look at what he's done this season. DeAndre Swift, he had 53 yards, 63 yards, 33 yards, 38 yards by week, 108 yards, 124 yards. It's clear what Ben Johnson was doing during the bye week and he was fixing the run game and it feels like he's simplified everything so that we can run the football and play good defense. And that's what the Bears did today. And yeah, again it's a saint. So I'm not going to sit here and be like, you know, that was incredible for the. Puff your chest out. I will say there is something that's starting to make me very happy to watch and it is packers fans complaining about the Bears winning these games because I did. I bookmarked it. Let me find it. This one made me laugh. Where is it? I gotta find it. It was Mark. Old Acres, I assume is a Packers fans. He said teams aren't even trying when they play the Bears.
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Zach
Yeah. No, it's true. It's true. That made me happy as a Commanders fan Monday night.
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PFT Commenter
I weren't even trying.
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Zach
I don't care who cares about this game. It's too. It's just a. It's a not. It's not in our division. So who gives a shit.
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PFT Commenter
But I.
- [47:39]
Zach
That's exactly what the Saints thought today.
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PFT Commenter
This is the progression I've talked about the progression into being no longer a bad team. We're trying to get to a good team. We're somewhere in the middle right now. Another step, not only beating a team you're supposed to beat, even if it looks sloppy at times. Another Step in the progression is packers fans complaining that our opponents aren't even.
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Zach
Trying, which is great.
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PFT Commenter
That that means we're getting closer and closer when they start noticing and saying teams aren't even trying against the Bears. Shaking my head.
- [48:06]
Zach
Yeah, you're not rent free, but rent stabilized.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [48:09]
Zach
Yeah. You got a voucher.
- [48:10]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And four, two is fun. It's fun. It is.
- [48:13]
Zach
Isn't that cool to like look at your team and be like 4 and 2. Just look at the record.
- [48:18]
PFT Commenter
It's fun.
- [48:18]
Zach
It's so much fun.
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PFT Commenter
We're technically. I believe if the playoffs started today, we would still be on the outside looking in because the NFC is really good, which is. It's nuts how good the NFC is. I think the Saints are. I think we actually can say after today the Saints are the only really bad team in the nfc.
- [48:34]
Zach
I don't know that the Saints are. Are really bad, though.
- [48:37]
PFT Commenter
Spencer Rattler took a step back. He was not. He.
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Memes
He.
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PFT Commenter
And. And we almost up the game because he did have that, that middle eight. The Saints were cooking.
- [48:47]
Zach
They.
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PFT Commenter
They ripped down the field to end the first half, scored in the. To start the second half was like looked up like, holy fuck, it's six point game. But yeah, he had too many mistakes today. He sunk the Saints.
- [48:59]
Zach
I think that the, the Saints are not good. They're a bad team. But I think I would probably put three teams in the AFC beneath them, right?
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PFT Commenter
Jets, Titans, Dolphins for sure.
- [49:10]
Zach
Jets, yeah. Jets, Titans, Dolphins, Browns are probably Raiders. Raiders, Yeah. I would take. Whose spread would it be anyways? Raiders at Saints.
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PFT Commenter
You're right. I would take. Yeah, those four teams.
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Memes
Now did.
- [49:24]
PFT Commenter
Did the Saints lose to any of them? Are we going to.
- [49:26]
Zach
Yeah, we're probably going to get.
- [49:27]
PFT Commenter
Correct.
- [49:28]
Zach
Let me look at the Saints actually.
- [49:30]
PFT Commenter
Got dummied by the Raiders, you idiots. That, that always happens to us.
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Memes
Saints only beat the Giants.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. They only beat the.
- [49:37]
Zach
Okay. The Saints have lost to.
- [49:38]
PFT Commenter
No, I'm saying if the, if the Raiders had beaten the Saints, that would have been very much us. Wherever. We say that confidently. And then everyone's like, hey, Raiders, him up.
- [49:48]
Zach
Week 2, you forgot Saints lost to the Cardinals. Week 1 lost to the 49ers, lost the Seahawks lost to the Bills, lost to the Patriots. Lost to the Bears. So yeah, I would. I would take all four of those teams from the afc.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [50:01]
Zach
And put them beneath the Saints. Actually, if we're doing the. The power of comparison here. Patriots beat the Saints 25 19. Bears beat the Saints 26 14.
- [50:14]
Hank
That's interesting.
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Zach
It Is interesting.
- [50:15]
PFT Commenter
It's interesting. That's interesting.
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Zach
What are your thoughts, Hank?
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Hank
I mean, the Saints had crazy, you know, assistance from the rest, and they still couldn't beat the Patriots. I didn't. I don't think it was as bad for the Bears today.
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Zach
Well, teams don't try against.
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PFT Commenter
Wins a win. Yeah. Teams aren't even trying. It's disgusting. Shaking my head. Yeah.
- [50:35]
Hank
You don't think about the Patriots at all, though.
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PFT Commenter
What?
- [50:38]
Hank
PFT doesn't think about the Patriots at all.
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Zach
I know. Who cares?
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PFT Commenter
Why would I.
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Zach
Why would I think about the Patriots?
- [50:43]
PFT Commenter
He was just looking at scores.
- [50:45]
Zach
Yeah. I just looked it up right now, and I wanted to compare. I'm sorry for saying you. You admitted that was interesting. When I said that I was. Yeah, yeah. You were interested.
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PFT Commenter
Are you a little upset, Hank, that I'm not. That I'm taking a rational approach to this?
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Zach
No.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. It's a long season because you. You want me to, like, get my hopes all the way up and be like, bears are back?
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Hank
I don't.
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PFT Commenter
I. It's.
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Hank
It's a long season, like, because I.
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PFT Commenter
Don'T think they are. I. I a decent team right now. Not good.
- [51:12]
Hank
I want the Bears to make the playoffs.
- [51:14]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Zach
Six out of ten.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. You can't.
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Hank
You can't make the playoffs and not get excited.
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PFT Commenter
I'll tell you this. Six out of ten might.
- [51:22]
Hank
That's the key.
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PFT Commenter
I'll. I'll say this for. For the sickos and perverts, Hank, I'm looking at you. We could finally move off 6 out of 10 if they go to Baltimore and beat Baltimore in a healthy Lamar Jackson.
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Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
That could possibly move me to a six and a half.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So we'll.
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Max
We'll.
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PFT Commenter
We'll find out. I do think we'll be able to run the ball on them.
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Zach
And, Hank, I actually don't think about the Patriot. I think about you. I think about defeating you.
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PFT Commenter
Thank you.
- [51:44]
Zach
How'd the hungry dog do?
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PFT Commenter
Oh, who's in the hungry dog?
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Hank
The hungry dog's up on the season. That's all that matters.
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PFT Commenter
Who was in the hungry dog this week? Because we do talk about it.
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Hank
The hungry dog was the Bears, Saints, and Commanders, which was the.
- [51:58]
PFT Commenter
Wait, what? You Bears and the Saints?
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Hank
I mean, the sorry, Saints, Vikings, and Commanders.
- [52:04]
PFT Commenter
Oh, all right.
- [52:05]
Zach
How'd that do?
- [52:05]
PFT Commenter
So zone three?
- [52:06]
Max
Yeah.
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Hank
Huh.
- [52:10]
PFT Commenter
That's not.
- [52:10]
Zach
That's interesting.
- [52:11]
PFT Commenter
Did you reverse Hungry Dog?
- [52:12]
Zach
It.
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Hank
Wow. No, I did not.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, because you would have won.
- [52:15]
Hank
It's up on the season. Yeah. It's up on the season.
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PFT Commenter
You would have won if you went. It's up big on Eagles, Cowboys and Bears.
- [52:19]
Hank
It's up big on the season.
- [52:20]
Zach
I wonder how much the reverse hunger the. The fat cat parlay would be would have been.
- [52:25]
PFT Commenter
Nice start taking it. Also, shout out Kevin Byard. He's got four interceptions this season. He's been awesome.
- [52:34]
Zach
Should have had a fifth today.
- [52:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, there was a couple. There was a couple. Like that's where Spencer Rattler. I. I was singing his praises. He's not as bad as I. As people think he is. I was wrong. I. I think he might be worse. I actually know that I'd be right. I disagree.
- [52:48]
Zach
I. I think he's.
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PFT Commenter
No, I would be right. I looked bad today. He was not as. He's not as bad as people think he is. He's worse.
- [52:54]
Zach
Yeah, no, I looked really bad. I still think he's not as bad as people think he is. Yeah, today. Today was bad. Today was ugly bad. His worst game probably as a pro.
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PFT Commenter
Do you think they're ever going to.
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Max
Give Tyler Shuck a start?
- [53:06]
Zach
That's what we were saying on. On Friday. It's like we. You haven't really heard that name.
- [53:10]
PFT Commenter
Would you give him a start, Zach?
- [53:12]
Zach
If I'm the Saints.
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Memes
Yeah.
- [53:13]
Zach
Throw him in there.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Why not? Because Spencer and there was a possession where he tried to give like it was like four different interceptions that didn't. That weren't intercepted. And then the fourth was like, all right, finally we're going to take the ball.
- [53:27]
Zach
Yeah. Today was not good for the Spencer Rattler truthers.
- [53:30]
PFT Commenter
No, no.
- [53:31]
Zach
I consider myself one of my guests.
- [53:33]
PFT Commenter
I was one of them till today as well.
- [53:35]
Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
I was like, I. The whole time people were asking me what I thought about this game, I was like, I think he's better than you think.
- [53:40]
Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
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Memes
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- [55:25]
Zach
Yeah, this is. This is.
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PFT Commenter
Well, you guys both could have taken 37 on Friday when we did the show, and you would have gotten a point.
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Hank
Well, no, when I was looking, it was 36 and a half, and so.
- [55:34]
PFT Commenter
I took that, but it wasn't. It was plus 100. No, that was the whole problem.
- [55:38]
Zach
Hank and I are like the Bloods. We agree.
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Hank
And then. Pft.
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Zach
Yeah, yeah, we agree on. We got. When I was looking at the DraftKings sportsbook, which is the app that we go by, right? Yes, that's. That's our sponsor. I love DraftKings. They've got the best lines. What they say is gold as far as I'm concerned. When we put our picks in the line said 37 and a half, and I took the under on that.
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PFT Commenter
Hank wanted over 36 and a half, so. Hank, that's what I saw. That's not what you. That's just not true.
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Zach
So because. Because Hank's bad at reading the line, correct, I get punished.
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PFT Commenter
Correct.
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Hank
I mean, you can go back.
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Max
Don't look at me. I don't know why you looked at me.
- [56:12]
Zach
I'm looking at everybody.
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Max
No, Hank looked at me.
- [56:15]
Zach
You did look at Max.
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Hank
It went up as we were recording. I don't know what you guys could.
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PFT Commenter
Have just taken 37. You could have agreed to it. It's hilarious. That. Shout out to one Awl who had the perfect score. He bet it 31 6.
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Zach
That's both. I told you it was A key number 37 was a key number.
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PFT Commenter
The most key number. Yeah, the number one key number.
- [56:34]
Zach
I was, I was so sharp that I knew it was going to be 37. I didn't want to take it. Got bullied into it. That's fine. That's fine. I ended. Listen, I ended up negotiating myself out of a bad. A very strong position on Thursday's show. This was, this was maybe the straw that broke the camel's back for Mike McDaniel.
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PFT Commenter
Would you say that showing up to the game that will most likely get you fired as the Unabomber is probably not the best look? Because that's what Mike McDaniel looked like. He had the glasses on in the.
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Zach
Rainbow hood up Unabomber. Didn't get caught for being, for being such a wanted guy.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. You know, also smart guy. He was smart.
- [57:12]
Zach
He had a lot of degrees with a Harvard. I mean, he's a Michigan man and Harvard.
- [57:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but a Michigan man.
- [57:18]
Zach
We put him on Michigan. Daniel's a Yale guy.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's true. But let's talk about the Browns first, because then we have a lot to talk about. Tua and Mike McDaniel. The Browns, first time in 11 weeks they score over 17 points. They scored 31. They did. They had basically a perfect game plan for this weather. They just pounded Quin, Sean Judkins, Dylan Gabriel threw it 18 times. They went in jumbo set, like constantly just being like, hey, you see what we're set, what we're lined up in, we're going to run the ball and it's still going to work. He had three touchdowns. Their defense was phenomenal. They. They turned two over three times. They actually forced. I don't know if some were slippery, but there were six fumbles by the Dolphins. They recovered five of the six, so they only lost one fumble. But the Browns, the Browns are built for this weather. This is why we can't do the Kurt Warner, everyone playing a dome. The Browns should be able to get like one win a year just based on the sideways rain, wind bullshit.
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Zach
Yeah, the, the, the bring a poncho, bring your towel game. Yeah, they know how. That's the 12th man for the Browns is the weather. And this was. It was ugly. It was always going to be ugly. And the Browns had a great game plan for the defense that works well in the shitty weather, too.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [58:36]
Zach
The Browns now have won two games in the past 329 days, which is pretty crazy. They doubled their win total in the last 329 days. And I, I had a thought when I was watching this. This is like textbook prisoner of the moment. I admit I'm being prisoner of the moment when I say this.
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PFT Commenter
I like this.
- [58:53]
Zach
But I thought about it and I'm still in the moment. So I might still be prisoner.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Zach
I actually think that the Browns might be in a good position for the next, like two. Two years from now. Two years from now, the Browns might be okay.
- [59:07]
PFT Commenter
Maybe.
- [59:08]
Zach
Let me adjust that. At the end of two years from now, things will start to look bright for the Browns and then I think they might be in a good spot.
- [59:17]
PFT Commenter
Okay. So I want to agree with you. The only question I have, as always with these teams, is who's going to be owning the team in two years?
- [59:27]
Zach
It's still going to be Mr. Haslam.
- [59:28]
PFT Commenter
That's a problem.
- [59:29]
Zach
Yep. Yeah. Again, I understand that the ownership is going to be the same, probably the same general manager next year. Desean Watson, I think, has an $80 million cap hit that's about to kick in. But the defense is awesome and they've got a lot of young pieces on defense. And they've got two first round picks next year.
- [59:51]
PFT Commenter
They have 10 total picks next year, including two first round picks.
- [59:54]
Zach
Two first round picks. Dylan Gabriel is probably not the answer at quarterback. No, Shador.
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PFT Commenter
But he won a game, probably won't.
- [60:02]
Zach
He probably won't see the field. Maybe they'll convince somebody to trade, like a fourth round pick for sure of the season.
- [60:07]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [60:08]
Zach
But the defense is good enough. And they've got a good young running back and they've got a good young tight end. Their offensive line has some good guys. Yeah, they're not a great line, but they've got some good guys on the offensive line.
- [60:21]
PFT Commenter
I like this.
- [60:22]
Zach
And they've got. Everyone keeps telling me I'm crazy for saying that Stefanski is a good head coach. You have to remember.
- [60:27]
PFT Commenter
Very good.
- [60:28]
Zach
He is the Browns head coach.
- [60:29]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [60:29]
Zach
He. The. The groceries that he cooks with were purchased for him by Andrew Berry and Jimmy Haslam, and he can only work with what he's got. I think Stefanski is a good head coach.
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PFT Commenter
He had nothing to do with desean Watson.
- [60:42]
Zach
I actually think two years from now, the Browns could be a very good.
- [60:46]
PFT Commenter
When does Deshaun Watson come off the books?
- [60:49]
Zach
Well, I just saw. I think the $80 million is next year and then I think they're free.
- [60:52]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [60:53]
Zach
I think they're free of them after the 80 mil, which is just a crazy cap hit to take.
- [60:57]
PFT Commenter
Listen, I want the Browns to be good. It'll Be. They're. They're like next up in the fan bases, you know, Lions, obviously. Dan Campbell's transformed that franchise. The Browns. The Browns need it. They especially because there's like, a chance that Baker wins mvp.
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Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
But, yeah, the Browns. This was a fun day for Browns fans. You want a true Browns football game where you just dominated on defense. Did you guys see to our coworker, Ohio's Tate. He's. He's a crazy, crazy sports fan. He bought his dad a whiskey glass for Christmas called the perfect whiskey glass, and it was only to be used when his high school team won Ohio State 1 and the Browns won all in the same weekend. So he. Today was the first day he could pour and use that glass.
- [61:45]
Zach
That's the first time.
- [61:46]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. It was awesome.
- [61:47]
Zach
That is good.
- [61:47]
PFT Commenter
The perfect whiskey glass.
- [61:48]
Zach
That is good.
- [61:49]
PFT Commenter
It's pretty fun.
- [61:49]
Zach
There's nothing like when you hit. When you hit the. All the stars line up over the course of a weekend and you get like a good equinox for a sad sports town.
- [61:57]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [61:58]
Zach
Good for them.
- [61:58]
PFT Commenter
The perfect. The perfect weekend is. The perfect sports weekend is. Is quite something.
- [62:02]
Zach
Now on the other end, the Dolphins, I feel like they should just start Quinn Newers now.
- [62:09]
PFT Commenter
So they pulled Tua. He had three picks. It was also weird because afterwards, I think. What. What were they down when they pulled two? Were they down 31 6?
- [62:20]
Zach
It was a lot. Yeah.
- [62:22]
PFT Commenter
And Mike McDaniel afterwards was like, yeah, it was. You know, it was much more about him and what he was doing on the football field. I thought he gave us the best chance to win. Talking about Quinn Ewers, you had no chance of winning that game. You just were frustrated with watching to a throw. Pick after pick after pick.
- [62:38]
Zach
Yeah. And I'm not saying like, Quinn, yours is going to give you a better chance to win over the course of the season, but, like, start Quinn yours because fuck it.
- [62:45]
PFT Commenter
Tua was 12 for 23, 100 yards, zero touchdowns, three interceptions. It's just been. You remember. Remember the Dolphins? Yeah. There's the perfect class. See it? A drink to celebrate the perfect weekend when the high school Buckeyes and Browns team all win. That's pretty cool.
- [63:05]
Zach
That is nice.
- [63:07]
PFT Commenter
Remember when the Dolphins was two years ago when they were nine and three and just demolishing everyone and everyone's like this. This offense can't be stopped. Yep. It's just been doom and gloom since.
- [63:19]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah. It's been. It's been really rough. And I. I feel for McDaniels, the fact that he has to go out there and keep addressing the media about his own firing.
- [63:28]
PFT Commenter
He called it offensive.
- [63:29]
Zach
He called it. He said, the way I look at this job is I find it very offensive to all parties involved that you're asking me if I'm going to be fired, if I'm thinking about having a job. I need to be doing my job. As long as I'm the coach for the Miami Dolphins, they will get everything from me. I refuse to spend my time thinking about something that. You have your job. You do your job, and you do it to the best of your ability. And that's where my concern lies. I think it's offensive to all coaches, players in the organization if I'm spending that precious time thinking about myself. Yeah, I think he should spend some time thinking about himself. Yeah, I think he probably is sometime spending some time thinking about it.
- [64:04]
PFT Commenter
Like, what team does he want to go be an awesome offensive coordinator for next? Yeah, he.
- [64:08]
Zach
He has any number of very cushy landing spots that he could take if he wanted.
- [64:13]
PFT Commenter
He'll be a great offensive coordinator somewhere.
- [64:15]
Zach
Which is a very cool job to have, and he'll probably win Super Bowls as an offensive coordinator.
- [64:19]
PFT Commenter
Honestly, if I can. If I can be honest with you, like, I think I'd rather be an offensive coordinator than a head coach.
- [64:24]
Zach
Yeah.
- [64:24]
PFT Commenter
You just get to draw plays and you don't have to do as much work. You paid a lot of money.
- [64:30]
Zach
Game like this, you can go sit in the booth.
- [64:31]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [64:32]
Zach
Nobody even sees how low your pant legs go on your ankles.
- [64:35]
PFT Commenter
You hang with the boys. Yeah. He was wearing rain pants today.
- [64:38]
Zach
He was wearing.
- [64:39]
PFT Commenter
Congrats to him. He did wear appropriate pants for the one and six record. Is it one in six? One? One. One in six? Yeah, I think they're one in six. They're just bad, bad, bad, bad. Really, really bad. That's all I got about it. Oh, actually, I have. I have Tyree Kills tweets during the game which sum up the Dolphins perfectly. He said, watching your team play through a TV is hard. That's facts. Let's go. Finn's. Let's turn this thing around in the second half. And then his next tweet was also. Rashid Rice is so dangerous. Chiefs back rolling. Love to see it. He definitely turned off the Dolphins game to watch the Chiefs. Oh, yeah, he's watching. Without a doubt. He was out of doubt. He was like, I can't watch this anymore.
- [65:25]
Zach
There was one cool play for the. For the Dolphins today. I think it was Larry Broom. Yes, he was. That A fumble or was that a reception that it was like.
- [65:34]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I don't know what it.
- [65:34]
Zach
I think it was a fumble that bounced into his hand. Yeah, it's hard to tell sometimes with two if it's a fumble or a pick.
- [65:39]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [65:40]
Zach
But yeah, it just took a caram into his hand. Larry Borum, number 79, and he got jacked up. I love watching offensive linemen run with the football because they. They don't have any of the awareness of where defenders are coming from that a receiver would have. And credit to him for not fumbling.
- [65:56]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's a Bear. He was. He was a Bear. That's. That's never a good sign when you're have ex Bear offensive linemen. No playing offensive line for you? No, because we're not exactly known for offensive linemen.
- [66:07]
Memes
It.
- [66:07]
Zach
Right.
- [66:07]
PFT Commenter
And yeah, also the dolphins were one of 13 on third down. It was just. It's. It's just if you didn't watch this game, every stat is actually not doing justice to how bad the Dolphins were.
- [66:21]
Zach
They just.
- [66:22]
PFT Commenter
They just could not do anything at all whatsoever.
- [66:26]
Zach
It's like they didn't. They didn't think to game plan for the weather.
- [66:29]
PFT Commenter
Right. And you just. It was just all so, so bad.
- [66:33]
Zach
Yeah.
- [66:34]
PFT Commenter
So, so bad. But credit to the Browns. I'm happy for Browns fans. The perfect weekend for Browns and Ohio State fans. Okay, next up, Hank. Patriots 31, Titans 13. That was a. Were you scared at any moment? It was a scared.
- [66:52]
Hank
I mean, the. The Cam War touchdown. You know, they took a lead early and it was like, ooh, is this not going to be. Is this going to be a tight game?
- [66:59]
PFT Commenter
It was a 103 game, then it was a 1310 game, then it was 13 10, Titans 10, three Titans. And then it was 31, 13. And it all happened in basically a blink of an eye because it was Drake May touchdown pass to Cam Ward with a true fumble where it was comically bad, where he just empty hand, nothing in it, right in the shadow of his goal end zone.
- [67:25]
Zach
He does that a lot.
- [67:26]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Small hands, just nothing there. But remember, when he starts playing the way he wants to play, league's gonna be, watch out.
- [67:34]
Zach
Yep, it did.
- [67:35]
PFT Commenter
It did feel like though, Hank, to start this game, you're like, oh, is this a. Is this a Mike McCoy like, you know, fired coach Bump here? But it lasted for maybe a quarter.
- [67:45]
Zach
Yeah, they got a quarter out of it. And Mike. Mike McCoy is not just looking at him. Not interim head coach material.
- [67:50]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [67:51]
Zach
They got to get an interim, interim.
- [67:52]
PFT Commenter
Head coach they got to get someone fatter.
- [67:53]
Zach
Yeah, he did. Do you see him doing this the steps before the game? You know, Vrabel always does that. He goes up and down the. The stadium steps. He was just like walking up and down the steps like, this man is not getting anybody fired off.
- [68:05]
PFT Commenter
Yep, yep. He. Yeah, the, the. The Patriots killed him. Drake May does not throw in completions. It's pretty crazy. He was 21 or so. Yeah, 21 for 23. 91% completion percentage.
- [68:19]
Hank
Franchise record for a quarterback.
- [68:21]
PFT Commenter
Franchise record. Andy's 77.1% on the season. Pretty damn good.
- [68:27]
Zach
Yeah, very good. And that defense. Titans didn't get a 50 yard rusher. The Patriots still have not allowed 50 yards to a running back all season.
- [68:37]
Hank
It's exciting.
- [68:38]
PFT Commenter
What are you thinking?
- [68:39]
Hank
I mean, we're, we're on a good run. We got a great schedule coming up.
- [68:42]
PFT Commenter
Who you play next? Let's play who's lies anyway from DraftKings. Where is that game, Gillette? That's probably gonna be patriots six minus four and a half.
- [68:52]
Hank
I would have said four and a half as well.
- [68:53]
PFT Commenter
Six and a half. What is it?
- [68:55]
Hank
DraftKings sportsbook Patriots or Browns at Patriots? It is six and a half.
- [69:00]
PFT Commenter
Six and a half.
- [69:02]
Zach
Yep.
- [69:02]
PFT Commenter
Damn.
- [69:02]
Zach
I'm dialed on these lines, man.
- [69:04]
PFT Commenter
Damn.
- [69:05]
Zach
Dialed.
- [69:05]
PFT Commenter
Okay. You feel good about that game?
- [69:08]
Hank
Feel great about that game? I feel great about this team. I feel great. I mean, Ryan Whitney, he texted me, said you gotta give those idiots a bunch of heat for, you know, laughing at you when you mentioned the Patriots being the best team in this podcast. So I'm excited.
- [69:19]
PFT Commenter
Are they?
- [69:20]
Hank
They're not currently.
- [69:22]
PFT Commenter
So then why would you wit. Why would he laugh right now?
- [69:25]
Hank
Because we're on the right path.
- [69:26]
PFT Commenter
But the Bucks are here and the Eagles are here. Are the Patriots better than the Bucks and the Eagles right now?
- [69:32]
Hank
Yes.
- [69:32]
PFT Commenter
Oh, okay.
- [69:33]
Zach
Okay.
- [69:34]
PFT Commenter
Well then you can laugh then. Feel free to laugh.
- [69:36]
Zach
You can laugh. But yeah, laugh.
- [69:37]
PFT Commenter
Feel free. That was a joke.
- [69:39]
Hank
You play who you play now.
- [69:40]
Zach
But feel free.
- [69:42]
Hank
What would you like us to do about the schedule so unequivocally?
- [69:45]
PFT Commenter
You're getting better.
- [69:46]
Max
I remember saying the same thing to the Commanders last year.
- [69:50]
PFT Commenter
Nope.
- [69:50]
Max
It's all I'll say.
- [69:52]
PFT Commenter
I don't remember saying that last year.
- [69:56]
Hank
I don't remember saying that last year.
- [69:57]
Zach
Max is right.
- [69:59]
Hank
But no, I mean, you got to play who you play and then you put. You get into the playoffs and you have to play the good teams. Eventually you're going to have to play good teams.
- [70:05]
Zach
Yeah.
- [70:05]
Hank
And that's what people said about the commanders. They made it to the NFC championship.
- [70:08]
Zach
Yeah. Beat a couple of good teams. Yeah.
- [70:09]
PFT Commenter
It's true. Who. Who's the next good team you play? The Bucks.
- [70:14]
Zach
They just don't.
- [70:15]
PFT Commenter
The Bucks at the Bucks.
- [70:19]
Hank
That'll be a fun game.
- [70:19]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Good test. That will be. Stephen Cha will be all up in your ass. And Zach.
- [70:24]
Hank
And Zach.
- [70:25]
Max
Ooh.
- [70:26]
PFT Commenter
Oh.
- [70:26]
Zach
Oh.
- [70:30]
PFT Commenter
He'S so bad.
- [70:31]
Zach
Hank. Can't help it.
- [70:32]
PFT Commenter
So cocky.
- [70:33]
Zach
He can't help it. Hank, what would disappointment look like to you this season?
- [70:38]
Hank
Disappointment would look like not making the playoffs.
- [70:42]
Max
You guys did lose to the Raiders.
- [70:44]
Zach
That's a great point.
- [70:46]
Hank
Yeah, we did.
- [70:47]
PFT Commenter
It's too bad they beat the Bills because otherwise you would have been able to do that stat.
- [70:50]
Max
I know. The bill. The bill.
- [70:52]
Zach
Well, you know what I'll do? I'll just toss in a casual on Sunday. Oh, Drake May has yet to beat a 500 or above team.
- [71:02]
PFT Commenter
Wait, no. That was a Sunday night game.
- [71:04]
Zach
Was it? I thought it was Monday. It was Sunday.
- [71:06]
PFT Commenter
It was a Sunday night game.
- [71:08]
Zach
All right. I'll have to think of a different way to phrase.
- [71:14]
PFT Commenter
We need. You know what? We need the bills to go under 500. Yeah.
- [71:17]
Zach
Yeah. That's what I gotta do.
- [71:19]
PFT Commenter
The bills go under 500. Then you could just keep going with that. I. Do you think it's a little early to be taking victory laps on especially the Bucks and the Eagles? No. He has asked you to do.
- [71:29]
Zach
It's.
- [71:30]
Hank
No, but it was more like you guys did laugh. Like you guys were.
- [71:32]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [71:33]
Zach
Yeah. It was a ridiculous.
- [71:34]
PFT Commenter
Definitely.
- [71:35]
Max
And.
- [71:35]
Hank
And now I think it's. It's. You know, the odds are a lot better.
- [71:39]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [71:39]
Zach
Mm.
- [71:40]
PFT Commenter
For sure. What memes. Turn on your mic.
- [71:43]
Memes
You said it. Week one. You said it.
- [71:47]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you did.
- [71:48]
Zach
Yeah.
- [71:49]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you did. That's true. Memes. Good point.
- [71:51]
Memes
Should have doubled down.
- [71:52]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [71:53]
Hank
We won.
- [71:53]
PFT Commenter
You were like, oh, yeah, we suck. I was wrong. We lost.
- [71:56]
Hank
I didn't say we suck, but I said we might not be. I said might.
- [71:59]
Zach
We'll have to run that back.
- [72:01]
Max
We're gonna have to find.
- [72:01]
Zach
Yeah, we're gonna find.
- [72:02]
PFT Commenter
Let's find that club right now. Find that clue right now.
- [72:04]
Zach
Hank's not. Not drawing from any library of truth. He's just saying what makes him sound best.
- [72:09]
Hank
Yeah, listen, I. I'm excited about this team.
- [72:12]
PFT Commenter
He also just has. He has Whitney and Gaz just gas him and just gassing him up.
- [72:17]
Zach
Yeah. Dave text.
- [72:18]
PFT Commenter
Fired up.
- [72:19]
Hank
Dave did not.
- [72:20]
PFT Commenter
We're back. Just getting them fired up.
- [72:22]
Zach
Fight. Say, hold on. To your heirlooms.
- [72:25]
PFT Commenter
He's getting fired up.
- [72:28]
Zach
The last thing we need is. Is Patriots fans to win another Super Super Bowl.
- [72:32]
PFT Commenter
I'll be honest that we. Are you thinking Soupy?
- [72:34]
Zach
I can't do that.
- [72:35]
PFT Commenter
Wait a second. Are you thinking Soupy? Why not right now?
- [72:38]
Hank
Why not?
- [72:38]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [72:39]
Hank
Why not? We've proven we can beat the Bills. I mean, the Chiefs like going into. Going into Arrowhead and beating the Chiefs to make the super bowl would be.
- [72:47]
Max
Memes already has found this clip, by the way of Hank.
- [72:50]
PFT Commenter
Oh, great. Let's play it.
- [72:51]
Zach
Be the.
- [72:52]
Hank
It would be.
- [72:53]
PFT Commenter
Great job Memes.
- [72:55]
Hank
I feel like I might have, you know, got a little too ahead of myself and. Might have. This Patriots team is. Is just not gonna be. It's not gonna be there this year.
- [73:05]
Zach
Might have.
- [73:06]
PFT Commenter
I said not gonna be here this year. So we were just listening to you.
- [73:11]
Hank
I said when I said there I went the super bowl and I said and we might not be. But that could have been wrong.
- [73:17]
Zach
It's really. Whitney's laughing at you.
- [73:18]
Max
Let's listen to the rest of the clip.
- [73:19]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, probably not.
- [73:24]
Max
I saw There was still 10 seconds left. I thought maybe he was gonna continue.
- [73:28]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah.
- [73:30]
Hank
I mean, it was the Raiders week one that. I don't know how. How else he would have reacted to that, but I was wrong. For able. Turned the ship around. Players would die for him.
- [73:39]
PFT Commenter
Was very like the. The. The locker room videos. This one meant a lot to him.
- [73:44]
Hank
Oh, yeah. And he's, you know, just greeting everyone outside the locker room after they win.
- [73:49]
Zach
It's. It's.
- [73:49]
Hank
It's just a good time to be a New England Patriots fan.
- [73:51]
Zach
It was.
- [73:51]
Hank
It was.
- [73:52]
Zach
Again.
- [73:52]
Hank
I know it's a long rebuild, but. But we're back.
- [73:54]
Zach
Turn the ship around like a lighthouse.
- [73:56]
PFT Commenter
Drake may does look insane. Like you just got to keep him not concussed. Yeah, he probably was concussed.
- [74:01]
Hank
He said he was all right. He said. He said he was fine.
- [74:04]
Zach
Is there.
- [74:04]
PFT Commenter
Well, he has to now.
- [74:05]
Memes
Yeah.
- [74:05]
PFT Commenter
He came back in the game.
- [74:07]
Zach
Is there any concern that, like.
- [74:08]
PFT Commenter
No.
- [74:08]
Zach
I was actually really like a young quarterback like that. These running guys, you know, they might get hurt. Doesn't that keep you up at night?
- [74:15]
Hank
You feel like he's a passing guy?
- [74:16]
Zach
I mean, he has 62 yards rushing today, eight attempts. I mean, this guy, he's going to be subjecting his body to a lot of hits, but he's.
- [74:25]
Hank
He's proven himself as a passer.
- [74:26]
Zach
I think that you got to be. You got to be careful with a.
- [74:28]
Hank
Guy like his Pass already in the last.
- [74:30]
Zach
Like I want a guy that stands in the pocket.
- [74:31]
PFT Commenter
Are unbelievable. Best abilities available.
- [74:33]
Zach
I don't. I don't want these new fangled guys to just take off and. And try to put people in an N1 mixtape. I want a guy that will stand strong in the pocket.
- [74:40]
PFT Commenter
You know you can actually. It's actually you can get hurt in the pocket too.
- [74:43]
Zach
Yeah, but no, when you're running like that subject you're open up that throwing shoulder, legs, head.
- [74:50]
Hank
But yeah, the.
- [74:51]
Zach
You can get injured ribs.
- [74:52]
PFT Commenter
You could get injured anywhere. In the pocket. Out of the pocket.
- [74:56]
Zach
Yeah. I'm just saying something to think about.
- [74:58]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [74:58]
Zach
I. I get nervous when I watch Drake May run.
- [75:02]
PFT Commenter
Well, congrats. Thank you guys. Drake May looks awesome.
- [75:05]
Hank
Thank you.
- [75:05]
PFT Commenter
And you I guess. Yeah. The Bucks is the next. I mean would you say it's. Would you. We. Are you going to be reassessing if you lose to the Browns or Falcons? Falcons.
- [75:14]
Hank
No, Falcons are solid team.
- [75:16]
PFT Commenter
They didn't look like one tonight.
- [75:20]
Hank
Listen, it's the NFL. You can lose games and still. Still be right the ship.
- [75:25]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's true.
- [75:26]
Zach
That's true.
- [75:27]
PFT Commenter
Okay, well here's a team that can't write the ship. Chiefs 31, Raiders 0 the Raiders are so bad. That was one of the worst games I think that's ever been played. The Raiders. Just to put it into perspective here, The Chiefs had 434 yards. The Raiders had 95. The Chiefs ran 77 plays. The Raiders ran 30. 30 is an important number because the Chiefs had 30 first downs. The Raiders had three. Three first downs. The Chiefs had 21 first downs in the first half. That was as big of a beat down as you could possibly have. The Raiders are just dog and fun fact. That was actually Andy Reid's first Regular season shutout. 427 career games coached.
- [76:17]
Zach
That is crazy.
- [76:17]
PFT Commenter
Isn't that nuts?
- [76:18]
Zach
Yeah. So The Raiders had 25 yards rushing. They had 70 yards passing on the day, 3.2 yards per play. And it. Those numbers don't even sound as bad as the game was. And the only person that this snuck up on was Pete Carroll.
- [76:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [76:36]
Zach
Because Pete Carroll said after the game this was a game I didn't see coming. I think he's the only man in America who was surprised that the Chiefs are really good and the Raiders kind of stink now.
- [76:47]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [76:47]
Zach
And we did see the inevitable benching of Geno for Kenny Pickett in this game.
- [76:53]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [76:53]
Zach
And then Kenny Pickett stepped in and I think immediately fumbled the snap.
- [76:56]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [76:57]
Zach
Very first one.
- [76:57]
PFT Commenter
Geno went 33 plus game minutes between completions. Yeah, he had a completion with like three minutes left in the first quarter, and his next one was with two minutes left in the third quarter.
- [77:09]
Zach
Yeah, it was bad.
- [77:10]
PFT Commenter
It was quite a long time that he went without a completion.
- [77:13]
Zach
The Chiefs had the play of the week, though.
- [77:15]
PFT Commenter
The Mahomes.
- [77:16]
Zach
The Mahomes. Yeah, he was. He was lining up.
- [77:18]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [77:19]
Zach
It was fourth and what, two. Fourth and three.
- [77:22]
PFT Commenter
It was. I think it was close to that.
- [77:23]
Zach
It was like fourth and one.
- [77:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [77:25]
Zach
So Mahomes gets under center and then he does the fake hard count to try to get them to jump off. The Raiders don't jump off. And then Mahomes, the mic caught him going, this never. This never works. Actually, let me rephrase that. This never works, man.
- [77:40]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [77:40]
Zach
And then it went back under center and they did snap the ball and got a first down easily.
- [77:44]
PFT Commenter
And it made Tony Romo very uncomfortable to hear those swear words.
- [77:46]
Zach
It did.
- [77:48]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. He's like, oh, man. He said some choice language, but I could never. I mean, that was awesome. They probably shouldn't have wasted against the Raiders.
- [77:57]
Zach
Yeah. But they'll do it again and it'll work again.
- [77:59]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [77:59]
Zach
And they were just putting that on tape so the refs know to look out for it and so they'll call it correctly with the next time the Chiefs try to do it.
- [78:04]
PFT Commenter
The Chiefs are. I mean, Rasheed Rice was back. He scored two touchdowns in the first half. They just like. This was over so fast. The Chiefs are so good. We said it a couple of weeks ago. They're winning the Super Bowl. At least getting to the Super Bowl. I stand by that. They have. They had eight guys with a catch, six guys over 30 yards receiving. Can I tell you guys? Parlay I'm thinking about doing that is a dark, dark thing to do. But it's also like, hey, if it's going to happen, we might as well make money for it. Dodgers, no.
- [78:41]
Zach
Chiefs, no.
- [78:42]
PFT Commenter
Dodgers are like minus 10 million to win the Duke World Series. No. Can you pull it up on DraftKings right now? Max Ohio State to win the national championship and the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. I think it's like 20 to 1.
- [78:57]
Zach
I mean, it seemed. It feels.
- [78:58]
PFT Commenter
It just feels like something that you should just. Just do and forget about it. Like, don't even think about it. Just be like, you know, late January comes around and Ohio State will have won the national title and the Chiefs will be in the AFC Championship game. And then you can figure out and you can be like, all right, I'll. I'll hedge now.
- [79:16]
Zach
Why don't you add Scotty Scheffler Masters in there?
- [79:19]
PFT Commenter
Just throw it in there.
- [79:20]
Max
It's 20 to 1.
- [79:21]
PFT Commenter
20 to 1. Yeah. I mean, seems like a save. I. The Chiefs are just really good and they have everyone back now, and they're going to be really good and their defense is awesome. And. Yeah, I don't. I mean, they're. What are they, four and three now and they're. They're the, the favorites to win the Super Bowl. Like, that just tells you what people think of the Chiefs.
- [79:41]
Zach
Yeah, I kind of like the nothing ever changes parlay, though. That's good. Like, add the Panthers in there for. For NHL.
- [79:48]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Because it's just like if it happens, sports fans will be upset. Yeah, rightfully so. But will have won money.
- [79:58]
Zach
Yeah.
- [79:59]
PFT Commenter
It's not a terrible idea, right?
- [80:00]
Zach
No, I like it. I actually like it a lot.
- [80:02]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. So that's. That's. The Panther's a little juicy. What is that? Panthers. And Scottie Scheffler.
- [80:09]
Zach
Panthers. Scotty Scheffler, 95, Ohio 1.
- [80:14]
PFT Commenter
I might as well throw that in there.
- [80:16]
Max
$100 would give you 90 would win you 95,000.
- [80:19]
Zach
Oh, imagine how happy you'd be.
- [80:23]
PFT Commenter
I mean, again, it's like, I don't want this to happen, but if it's going to happen, we might as well get something from it, right?
- [80:30]
Zach
I've never seen a more obvious statement game than the Chiefs had today where it's like, Rashid Rice is back. Yeah. We're going to remind people that Rashid Rice is very good and we're going to force it to him and just have him put the league on notice.
- [80:42]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. What do you got?
- [80:43]
Max
Do we have the Dodgers?
- [80:44]
PFT Commenter
Dodgers next year now? They don't have just right now.
- [80:49]
Max
We'll just, we'll just throw that in there. That'll. That'll up it to 140,000 like that.
- [80:55]
PFT Commenter
By the way, the. This is never good. When Ashton Genty after the game said, if we're being honest, it's been a losing culture around here for a long time. He's been there for like six months.
- [81:06]
Zach
He's sick of it.
- [81:07]
PFT Commenter
And he, He. He can sniff it out that it's a losing culture.
- [81:10]
Zach
He got six carries today. And that's not like the Raiders game plan being dog, which it was, but that's just. They were playing from behind the entire time. But six carries, one reception, it's just. It's bad. It's really bad. And they didn't have Myers. He didn't play.
- [81:28]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. In the end, Max Trouser went out of the game with a knee injury. I think he's gonna be okay.
- [81:34]
Zach
They said knee and back.
- [81:35]
PFT Commenter
Geno said he's. He's pointing the thumb right at himself.
- [81:39]
Zach
Okay. I mean that's like thumbs up. Yeah.
- [81:42]
PFT Commenter
You know it's bad when your quarterback has to be like, it starts with me. Anytime that is said in any press conference, shit's going real bad.
- [81:49]
Zach
This is a. Every spot is up for grabs week for Pete Carroll.
- [81:52]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. Bring in a basketball team. Bring in the aces.
- [81:55]
Zach
Yeah.
- [81:57]
PFT Commenter
Get a little competition going in the. In the practices.
- [82:00]
Zach
You know what? They just need to have their minds blown. I think you got to bring in a magician off the strip.
- [82:05]
PFT Commenter
You think O's.
- [82:06]
Zach
Yeah, bringing O's.
- [82:07]
PFT Commenter
Gotta get in there.
- [82:08]
Zach
David Copperfield gotta get in the mix. Like we're gonna. We're gonna make something. We're gonna make the entire stadium disappear.
- [82:14]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I like that. But yeah, just completely non competitive game in every. In every facet. Every facet. Raiders are just dog one of the Raiders gonna win another game.
- [82:27]
Zach
Well, they got the Jaguars next. Are the Raiders on a buy now?
- [82:30]
PFT Commenter
They must.
- [82:30]
Zach
Yeah. Raiders on a buy. Jacksonville.
- [82:33]
PFT Commenter
That's a team that when they go on a buy, you forget they exist.
- [82:36]
Zach
Yeah.
- [82:36]
PFT Commenter
Because I don't.
- [82:37]
Max
Who.
- [82:37]
PFT Commenter
Who would you have starting in your.
- [82:40]
Zach
Fantasy team that would be. Well, maybe Myers.
- [82:43]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Bowers, but Bowers hurt.
- [82:46]
Zach
That's a. You think that. That Raiders players actually. Do they leave Vegas on a bye week or do they just get to enjoy Vegas?
- [82:53]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I think they probably just go to a pool. Pool party.
- [82:55]
Zach
I think they just enjoy Vegas.
- [82:56]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, they're gonna. They're gonna play the Jaguars, the Broncos, the Cowboys, the Browns. Brown's defense is going to fuck them up too. That's a bad team. That's a really bad team. Bummer team. All right. Another bummer team. Panthers 13, Jets 6. Memes. Well, Panthers aren't a bummer. Panthers are above.500 for the first time since 2019. Don't look up how the rest of that season went. They were also 4 and 3 in 2019. Than at 5 and 11. But they're above.500. The Meow Mix curse is as real as real could be since the Meow Mix boys retired their podcast. The Panthers are three. And oh, they won a game on the road. Bryce Young did get hurt, which sucks. But their defense was all over the place today.
- [83:45]
Zach
Yeah.
- [83:46]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [83:46]
Zach
Credit to them. And, and Bryce, when He got pulled. He was. He wasn't, like, terrible today. He was. It was the best that we've seen Bryce Young on the road maybe ever. Because Bryce Young, I think, was 1 in 15 on the road going into today.
- [83:57]
PFT Commenter
They. They shouldn't. I, like, I know that you can't lose a job because of injury, but Chubb, Hubbard, like, it's Rico Dowdles job.
- [84:05]
Zach
This is Rico.
- [84:06]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it was. They tried to split the carries and it wasn't even close. How. Who was more effective?
- [84:11]
Zach
Yeah, you got Rico. Rico is the future of that team. I have a lot of things that I want to say about the other side of the football.
- [84:18]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [84:19]
Zach
No, let me. Let's just stick with the pants for a second.
- [84:21]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [84:22]
Zach
Andy Dalton.
- [84:23]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [84:23]
Zach
Andy Dalton still out there.
- [84:24]
PFT Commenter
Good to see him.
- [84:24]
Zach
We got Andy Dalton and Joe Flacco the same weekend.
- [84:27]
PFT Commenter
Good to see you.
- [84:28]
Zach
We're not old.
- [84:28]
PFT Commenter
Nope.
- [84:29]
Zach
All our favorites are still in the league, which I enjoyed. Xavier Leggette had a nice, like, scramble drill touchdown catch.
- [84:35]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [84:36]
Zach
He's got a hilarious accent. I love rooting for that guy. I'm running out of stuff to say as I delay talking about the jets because I feel like memes might kill us.
- [84:45]
PFT Commenter
Memes are. Is this still hurting?
- [84:50]
Memes
It's the today still matter. It still managed to hurt.
- [84:54]
PFT Commenter
That sucks.
- [84:56]
Zach
Memes. What the fuck goes through Aaron Glenn's mind in the last five minutes of Habs?
- [85:10]
PFT Commenter
What are you specifically talking about? This.
- [85:12]
Memes
I think you're talking about the punt.
- [85:13]
Zach
I'm talking about two things that he did today. Both halves.
- [85:16]
Memes
Today.
- [85:18]
Zach
The end of the first half, he again just kind of let the clock run out. Did not even attempt to Hail Mary.
- [85:24]
Memes
Yeah. The end of the first half, I was pissed about what he said in the media that he was going to take. He should have done the Hail Mary versus the Broncos.
- [85:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [85:34]
Memes
He didn't. He said, that's on me. And then he. He just repeated the same thing. This week.
- [85:39]
Zach
He did the same thing. It's like they didn't even want to try to score at the end of the half. Is his fear. I. I don't know what. What's his fear in that situation? Like, I don't want to. I don't want to risk getting picked off and then giving up a pick six, like 105 yard pick six at the end of the half.
- [85:53]
Memes
To be fair, that has happened with the Jets.
- [85:56]
Zach
Okay.
- [85:57]
PFT Commenter
Yes. All right.
- [85:57]
Memes
Happened against the Dolphins on day after Thanksgiving.
- [86:00]
PFT Commenter
That is fair. Okay, I remember that.
- [86:02]
Zach
That's fair. But he did say that he wasn't gonna do that again. That he, like, that was a mistake. That.
- [86:06]
Memes
Yeah, no, he said that. He said that a week ago.
- [86:08]
Zach
All right. And then at the end of the game, they were down. The jets were losing 13 to six. They had the ball with two minutes left. Now, granted, it was on, like, their own, what, 12 yard line, something like that. It was 4th and 10 and then 4th and 12. Then they punted. They punted with like two minutes left, down seven.
- [86:37]
Memes
I didn't necessarily disagree with that one because of how bad the offense was.
- [86:40]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Justin Fields got benched in this game. Feels like that's done, right?
- [86:45]
Memes
Yeah, that's done. He's. He's just a scared puppy out there. Yeah. Every single defense is just setting new single season records.
- [86:52]
Zach
I've got a sad stats. A sad stat about Justin Fields. Good guy. I like him as a person. He is now 14 and 36 as a starter, and that is the worst winning percentage in NFL history for that many starts now. He surpassed Blaine Gabbard today.
- [87:13]
PFT Commenter
He did start in an. On an intentional rebuild, slash tank, Bears season. But, yeah, it's bad.
- [87:20]
Zach
I think a lot of quarterbacks have been. Have started on rebuild.
- [87:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [87:25]
Zach
No, it's bad. It's bad.
- [87:26]
Memes
It's bad.
- [87:26]
Zach
It's about as bad as it can get.
- [87:28]
PFT Commenter
It's actually even crazier that there was like, a legitimate civil war on Bears Twitter over Justin Fields or Caleb Williams at one point.
- [87:35]
Zach
Yeah.
- [87:35]
PFT Commenter
Which is not. It's crazy to think about.
- [87:38]
Zach
And then memes. The other thing I wanted to ask you about. When it comes to the jets defense, are we sure Aaron Glenn was ever good at coaching defenses?
- [87:50]
Memes
The Lions defense last year was decimated.
- [87:53]
PFT Commenter
That's facts.
- [87:54]
Zach
Yeah. But okay, 2020, 2020, they were 32nd in the league. 2021, they were 29th in the league. 2022, they were 32nd in the League. 2023, there were 19th in the league.
- [88:13]
Memes
Progress.
- [88:14]
Zach
2024, they were 22nd in the league.
- [88:17]
PFT Commenter
Decimated.
- [88:18]
Memes
Decimated, though.
- [88:19]
PFT Commenter
And the 20 and 21 were. That was still bad.
- [88:23]
Zach
Yeah, they rebuilt. But I mean, I guess what I'm saying is that most guys that end up becoming head coaches that were defensive coordinators have, like, elite defensive units.
- [88:32]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, like, that was a top five unit.
- [88:34]
Zach
I don't know if he ever had. He never had a top 15 unit.
- [88:38]
Memes
I'm at the point where I'm not defending him. So I agree with you there. Like, he doesn't really do much for the defensive side of the ball right now. It's all Steve Wilkes. So the stuff he's doing as a head coach is also mind boggling. Like I, I just. I just don't know where the jets go at this point.
- [89:00]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, to Rod, you could do.
- [89:03]
Memes
You could do to Rod, but the depth of the team, like Garrett Wilson went out. Their number two wide receivers, Josh Reynolds. Then they have Tyler Johnson and Al Mazard. Like every coach we've had on this podcast, they talk about like good players. It's all about players play. And the judges don't have that. And they're just. They have bad head coach, bad quarterback and just bad players and they're just.
- [89:29]
PFT Commenter
Blow it up.
- [89:30]
Memes
I don't even know how. How you blow it up.
- [89:33]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I think you gotta. You know what? I'm gonna say something that you don't want to do, but you're gonna have to do. You're going to have to get back on Madden and restart as coach.
- [89:44]
Memes
I got fired from the Browns and Titans this weekend.
- [89:47]
Zach
What?
- [89:48]
PFT Commenter
How?
- [89:50]
Memes
Don't give me a chance.
- [89:51]
PFT Commenter
How do you. One year in, one year in, how.
- [89:54]
Zach
Do you keep getting jobs?
- [89:57]
PFT Commenter
What are you doing that's getting you fired so quickly?
- [90:00]
Memes
The Browns won. They just. I had Shador playing well. We went 5, 5 and 11.
- [90:06]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [90:06]
Zach
Fired.
- [90:10]
Memes
Titans. I did the opposite approach. Traded all my picks, got good players, missed playoffs by one game. Fired. Oh, no, I think I'm rebuilding the Raiders next.
- [90:22]
Zach
You gotta. Yeah, you gotta get the jets back.
- [90:24]
PFT Commenter
What goes through your head when, when, when the screen, when you finish the season and then it pops up like you've been fired.
- [90:31]
Memes
Just. Just an audible. Fuck.
- [90:34]
PFT Commenter
That happened twice this weekend.
- [90:36]
Memes
Twice this weekend?
- [90:38]
PFT Commenter
What days is it? The same day?
- [90:40]
Memes
No, Friday. And then hit the reset Saturday. Played an entire season at like 11pm.
- [90:47]
Zach
Wait, do you ever make it? Do you ever get fired during the season?
- [90:51]
Memes
No, it's all. It's always at the end.
- [90:53]
PFT Commenter
Oh, man. So at least you survived the season.
- [90:56]
Memes
Survived one season. Yeah.
- [90:57]
Zach
Now do you get to find out who they hire as a head coach after you?
- [91:01]
Memes
You do.
- [91:02]
Zach
So who. Who have you been replaced by?
- [91:04]
Memes
It's always computer generated, okay?
- [91:07]
Zach
Oh, not a random name.
- [91:08]
PFT Commenter
That actually hurts even more.
- [91:11]
Memes
You know.
- [91:12]
Zach
You know what was really weird about Aaron Glenn is after last week, the media asked him, hey, have you thought about benching Justin Fields? And he, he scolded the media for it and he was like, you know how this league is. Why would you even ask me a question like that? No, there's enough blame to go around. I'm not putting it on this young man. He, like, got real indignant when it came to being even approached about Justin Fields. And then halfway through this game, he's like, yeah, we're gonna bet you.
- [91:37]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we gotta get rid of this guy. Yeah.
- [91:38]
Memes
He's just digging his own grave, really. He scolds media, talks down to the media, and then the media just kills him after every single bonehead decision.
- [91:47]
Zach
Yeah, it's fine to talk shit to the media, but then you have to back it up.
- [91:53]
Memes
Back it up a little.
- [91:54]
Zach
A little bit. Not. Yeah. Not asking for the world.
- [91:58]
Memes
The only thing I will say is the defense has played a lot better.
- [92:02]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's true.
- [92:04]
Memes
Now the offense.
- [92:05]
PFT Commenter
It's true.
- [92:07]
Memes
It just seems that every single week it's a different part where you just point at where it's just like, let's come together as a team, but it's.
- [92:14]
Zach
Just try to find the jets win.
- [92:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. He said Justin Fields on asked about not getting in the end zone. He said, how do I explain it? We didn't get in the end zone. There's a lot. I don't mean to be rude, but there's no explanation, to be honest with you. That's gotta suck to be asked that question. Like, what do you want him to say? We suck? Like, that's just it. I don't. And in to. Rod can move the ball a little bit. He just can't throw it deep. He was just under throwing everyone.
- [92:45]
Memes
He had two guys wide open.
- [92:46]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. He just can't reach them.
- [92:48]
Memes
There's a couple plays that were called in that made me think. I was like, oh, the offensive coordinator actually is good. It's just we don't have the guys for the plays.
- [92:57]
PFT Commenter
The. Yeah, you're right about the defense. They're. They're the second team in the last 10 years to allow 13 points or fewer in consecutive games and lose both games. I'd assume the Browns probably were the other team.
- [93:08]
Zach
They might be up there. Yeah. Is Max just watching replays of the Vikings failing to stop the Tosh push?
- [93:14]
Max
That's just the for you page.
- [93:16]
PFT Commenter
They did go sideways on that. We forgot to mention that.
- [93:18]
Zach
Yeah, that was funny. Shout out.
- [93:19]
Max
Also, I love that people on Twitter like, this isn't even a false start. People are so broken by the tush push that they're just doing slow motion of.
- [93:27]
PFT Commenter
This is so offensive.
- [93:28]
Zach
So you have been watching.
- [93:29]
PFT Commenter
This is so offensive to memes that we're talking about the jets and you're like, let's talk about the Tush push.
- [93:35]
Zach
Let's Talk about all the babies.
- [93:36]
Max
I didn't.
- [93:38]
Zach
Babies out there complaining that we didn't get a twitch push in a game we won.
- [93:41]
PFT Commenter
The guy. The guy is literally said, I was hoping that memes was going to answer the question of did this hurt with. No, nothing can hurt me anymore because you got to get to that numb part. We've all been in bad season seasons where you just like, I'm numb. I'm apathetic. Who cares? You're still not there.
- [93:58]
Memes
No. It keeps getting lower. I don't know how it keeps getting lower.
- [94:02]
Zach
What would rock bottom be?
- [94:04]
Memes
I don't know.
- [94:05]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [94:06]
Zach
Are we not. We're not at rock bottom yet.
- [94:09]
Memes
We find new ways every week.
- [94:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. This one felt especially because it was like if. If the Panthers had killed you. Like, all right, we're just really, really bad. But 13 points to hold them to 13 points. You're like, oh, we could win this game. And just couldn't.
- [94:26]
Memes
Couldn't. And the young guys on defense are playing well. The linebackers they drafted aren't able to stop the run.
- [94:33]
Zach
But hasn't sauce been pretty good?
- [94:36]
Memes
Sauce Sauce has been great. Only got thrown at twice as today.
- [94:41]
PFT Commenter
They play the Dolphins again. They play the Browns.
- [94:46]
Zach
Yeah.
- [94:47]
PFT Commenter
Saints at Saints. But you said you're Rooting for oh, and 17.
- [94:54]
Memes
It's. It's just. It's a tough process when you're rooting for 0.
- [94:58]
Zach
17 memes. You know what I mean? You got a circle. November 13th. You got a circle December 28th.
- [95:06]
PFT Commenter
November 13th is going to be. I think we. We're streaming that in. In the PMT studio.
- [95:11]
Zach
Hank versus memes.
- [95:12]
PFT Commenter
So mean.
- [95:13]
Zach
I mean, imagine memes. If you guys win two games all year and you beat the Patriots twice, I think you'll be a happy guy.
- [95:20]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah.
- [95:21]
Max
Say one.
- [95:24]
Memes
Yeah.
- [95:25]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [95:25]
Max
One time.
- [95:26]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we got. It's got to be the first time, though, now.
- [95:29]
Max
Doesn't matter.
- [95:30]
PFT Commenter
No, because then you can hold that over him for a while. If he beats you the first time, then you win the second one. He can be like, but if you.
- [95:37]
Max
Won when the second one, you can hold over him all year.
- [95:39]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but the second one is.
- [95:40]
Max
You did that. You literally did that to the Packers.
- [95:42]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but. But the second one, though. That's true. But the second one is when the Patriots might not be playing anyone. You literally did that to the packers were playing people.
- [95:51]
Zach
But if you beat them in primetime memes, with the whole world watching, you got to go all in for November 13th. Got rest, guys up.
- [95:59]
Memes
We're just gonna get Embarrassed again. I know what you're saying.
- [96:03]
PFT Commenter
You're trying to.
- [96:04]
Memes
It's just. There's trying to pump. I'm envisioning how that's gonna go, and it's.
- [96:09]
Hank
Yeah.
- [96:11]
PFT Commenter
Hank's smiling right now. His head is spinning. He's doing a dance. He's doing a tick tock dance right now. You can't see him. Oh, geez. All right, well, memes. I. Yeah. I was hoping your answer. Do you think maybe next week we can get to a point where it's like it doesn't hurt anymore? That's where you need to go. You need to get to a point where you just turn it off.
- [96:32]
Memes
They play the Bengals next week.
- [96:33]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [96:33]
Memes
Bengals defense is horrible.
- [96:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [96:36]
Zach
It doesn't matter. That does not mean. I'm just trying to help you.
- [96:39]
Hank
It could get low revenge game.
- [96:41]
Zach
I'm just trying to get lower. I'm trying to help you out. You can't. You can't be thinking that way.
- [96:46]
Memes
What, negatively?
- [96:48]
Zach
No. Like the Bengals defense.
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Max
Positive.
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Zach
Yeah. You're like.
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PFT Commenter
You just thought you're getting hurt.
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Zach
You thought like Bengals defense. Not very good. Maybe we'll score some points still. You gotta stop.
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Memes
You should be able to move the ball.
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Zach
You gotta stop. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Zach
You gotta get. You gotta get two defensive touchdowns. They gotta miss an extra point. They gotta miss a field goal.
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Memes
Being able to throw a forward pass is too positive.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Zach
Yeah. Yes.
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Max
No. You think you can. You think you win the game?
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Memes
There's. So here's the thing. Aaron Glenn comes for parcels. Parcels. Thing is, there's always a path to victory. You got to figure out the path to victory. Throw forward, pass, throw.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Zach
He had 10 completions today.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's just like I said, the deep ones.
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Memes
I want Jameis. Well, yes, I've wanted Jameis.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I agree.
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Memes
If you're gonna suck sucking style, do it.
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Zach
I agree.
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PFT Commenter
Jameis would win you a game. 100%.
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Memes
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
James would have won this game today. I did. Like the. The Panthers are like, they're four and three and they're. They're positive momentum. But their Twitter accounts posting like it was a loss. Did you see that? It was just Panthers 13, comma, Jet 6. Yeah, they're. They're just kind of like, hey, we're not going to get ahead of ourselves.
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Zach
I like that. Good for them.
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PFT Commenter
Foreign smart. Smart.
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Zach
Enjoy this. This is an all time week of just staring at your record for Panthers fans.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Zach
Four and three, baby.
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PFT Commenter
And then who do the Panthers play?
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Zach
They got the Bills. Oh, next.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Zach
And then Bills off a buy, then at the packers, but then you got the Saints.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. Okay.
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Zach
And as far as I'm any divisional game, I could, I could see the Panthers being competitive.
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PFT Commenter
They're at home against the Bills, though.
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Zach
Yeah. They don't lose.
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PFT Commenter
They play well at home.
- [98:34]
Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. All right, let's do a couple ads and then we'll get to the afternoon games.
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Zach
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PFT Commenter
Okay, afternoon games. Hold on, let me take a swig of water. Shout out body armor. Colts 38, Chargers 24. Holy. The Colts are awesome. I got this game wrong. Colts fans reminded me of that. I was just merely I think I even said on Friday, I'm not selling on the Colts. I'm just trying to find a spot where I can sell on them. Yeah, but that's neither here nor there. If you bet against the team, people get upset. I was very wrong. The Colts offense is. I mean, they're perfect. I don't really know what else to say. Like, Daniel Jones is playing perfect football. Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman, Tyler Warren. Oh, and then let's just throw Jonathan Taylor right down your throat with a three touchdown game, his third of the season. He has more than the entire NFL combined in terms of three touchdown rushing games. They're perfect. Like, they, their offense is electric. They put the Chargers in an immediate hole. The Chargers started slow. They turned over Justin Herbert twice in the first half and that was it. Like, they just controlled the game. They scored six out of the first seven possessions. The Colts are not going anywhere. They are as legit, as legit as could be. And Daniel Jones, if you're waiting for him to just suck, he just doesn't.
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Zach
And he's now made $600,000 in bonuses because he's won six games. Yeah. Shout out to Daniel Jones. He's surgical. Like when Alec Pierce is sprinting downfield. He's one of the best deep threat targets in the entire league. He's always open. Daniel Jones finds a way to get the ball to him.
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PFT Commenter
Yep.
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Zach
They've just got like so many ways that they can hurt you if it's Jonathan Taylor who might be the best running back in the NFL. Yeah. Still, they've got a great deep threat in Alec Pierce. They've got Tyler Warren that does everything. Not just catch the ball. He runs the ball, he blocks. They've got Michael Pittman underneath and they've got Daniel Jones who, if nothing's open, he can run and he'll get you first down. And they've got, they've also got Jim Mercy on their side. Yeah, this feels like just. You can stop looking for faults and the Colts, you can stop being like, oh, look at the jersey, look at the logo. They stink. They've stunk for a while. They are going to be a very good. They are a good football team and they're going to stick around for a while.
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PFT Commenter
They, it clicked for me today when it used to be when Daniel Jones would escape the pocket and look downfield, you'd be like, oh, this is a problem. Now I'm, I'm just expecting him to complete a huge pass downfield and that's like the, the, the Way I see him now is completely different than what I used to see out of him. And now I'm expecting good things to happen when Daniel Jones has to escape the pocket and throw deep.
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Zach
There's certain quarterbacks where the ball leaves their hand and you're like, oh, and.
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PFT Commenter
Daniel Jones was that guys.
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Zach
And now you're like, this is about to be awesome.
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PFT Commenter
Correct.
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Zach
It's very rare that you'll see a guy make that change where he becomes a. Oh, I'm excited to see where this ball goes as opposed to, oh, no, here comes something. Just heartbreaking.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Zach
And Justin Herbert finds himself on the other side of that equation more and more recently. Especially if he's like in the red zone throwing into the end. You just, you think that something bad might happen.
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PFT Commenter
It's.
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Zach
I still, I'm not, I'm not selling stock on Justin Herbert. I think he's a very good quarterback, but he, he also gives just enough red meat to all the haters to be like, yes, I claim victory after this performance by Justin Herbert.
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PFT Commenter
The red zone interception today, when it was in the first half and it was like, okay, the Chargers can answer. That was a bad one. Shout out. Ronde Gadson, though, what a game from him. Seven catches, 164 yards. But they can't, they can't block for Justin Herbert and the chart. The Colts defense, by the way, played really well today. They, they're banged up. You know, Char Davius Ward has to go on the ir, so he's gonna be out for a few, few weeks. I think they, they got Kenny Moore back, which is big in their secondary, but they've, they've been shuffling guys in and out and they've been able to find ways to make big plays and turn the ball over. And like, that offense is just humming to a point where they can play with a lead and they have Jonathan Taylor and when they play from the lead, they're just, they're going to squash you. But yeah, Justin Herbert, the first three games were awesome, and then it's gotten a little bit worse and he. Actually, the craziest part is he had a career high in yards today.
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Zach
Yeah, he. How many did he have?
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PFT Commenter
421.
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Zach
That's crazy. Yeah, so he, he played well at times, but every time he plays well, he does something that makes everybody be like, oh, this guy sucks.
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PFT Commenter
Now, Max, you are a Justin Herbert non believer.
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Max
I wouldn't say that.
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PFT Commenter
You kind of were saying. I think you were saying in the cave, you're like this guy. Whoever Says he's good.
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Max
I just think that Justin Herbert is the biggest, like, what if, what if, what if quarterback of all time. And I'm sick of hearing the what if when this guy like just shows time and time again that he, he, he's just like a big stupid pick guy.
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Zach
He throws.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's like, put that on a go card. He's a big stupid pick guy. You're right.
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Zach
Yeah, he's probably the biggest.
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Max
But it's like every year it's like, Justin Herbert is so good. If only he had this. If only he had this. If only he had this. And it's like at some point you, you, you just got to be good.
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Zach
You know what I think it is? I think that every team, every bad team looks at Justin Herbert and they think to themselves, like, I would kill for this guy.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, I would kill for him.
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Zach
Yeah. And every team that's got like a very good quarterback looks at him. They're like, what's wrong with this guy in his picks.
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PFT Commenter
I remember when the, when there was like, I think it was a made up rumor, but it was like, the Bears trade the number one pick for Justin Herbert. I was like, yes. Like, no offense to Caleb or whoever the Bears are gonna pick, but Justin Herbert. So I was definitely in that camp. Yeah, but he is a big stupid pick guy.
- [106:21]
Zach
He's got cut down on the stupid picks.
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PFT Commenter
We have some pretty heartbreaking news that I came across our guy Shane Ring guy Shane. He used the hashtag. Hashtag. Pretty close to not being bolted up anymore. Oh, no, that's brutal.
- [106:38]
Zach
So loose, loose bolts.
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PFT Commenter
He's. He's in a bad spot, I think. Yeah, I mean, they just gotta find a way to like, their offensive line is just getting smashed.
- [106:51]
Zach
It was also frustrating at the end of this game because it felt like they, they didn't have any urgency whatsoever when they had the ball.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, it's crazy.
- [106:57]
Zach
How long was that drive that they went on when they were down by 14?
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PFT Commenter
Like nine minutes.
- [107:01]
Zach
It was like a nine minute drive that got to the 35 yard line.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, it was bad, but the Colts are good. Colts are the best team in the, in the AFC right now. They might be the best team in the NFL in terms of just like, we'll see what happens with. If the Bucks lose, they'll have the best record in the NFL. So you, if you want to go by records, but I also want to go by just what I'm watching in the Colts are really fucking good.
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Zach
What do you think the, what do you Think Daniel Jones has to do for him to get, like, a lot of respect across the league.
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PFT Commenter
It's happened for me. Like I said, it clicked in my head today, where I am no longer saying, oh, no, here comes Daniel Jones. And I'm saying, oh, Daniel Jones is about to just do something sick because.
- [107:39]
Zach
He'S just so quietly good.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [107:41]
Zach
He's like Ben Affleck in the account if there weren't any guns.
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PFT Commenter
And I thought this was. I thought this was the game that they were gonna. That the Chargers were gonna catch him, and I was way wrong. Way wrong.
- [107:52]
Zach
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
I did nail the brown scheme.
- [107:54]
Zach
These uniforms.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, my God.
- [107:57]
Zach
Chargers uniforms. It was too much yellow. It was entirely too much yellow on my screen.
- [108:02]
PFT Commenter
The most unserious uniforms you could possibly have.
- [108:05]
Zach
Yeah. At least when the Jaguars did it, that, like, little bit of mustard, like, spicy brown to it, so it looked like baby poop.
- [108:11]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [108:12]
Zach
This just. They just were wearing piss, and they.
- [108:14]
PFT Commenter
They're getting clowned by the Colts afterwards. Rightfully so. I think they. They had a tweet, basically comparing themselves to the Minions. I don't know if the Chargers have watched the Minions. Like, that's like, those guys do luck into a lot of awesome situations. I'd like to hear they're also really dumb.
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Zach
I'd like to hear Harbor's thoughts on the Minions. He could probably dive deeper into that than we could. He.
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PFT Commenter
Harbaugh had a testy press conference where he was just doing avoidance on everything. Their defense got gashed today. I think Derwin James just said that. Like, we just got 40 piece at home, and it was. It wasn't close. Zach, are you a big Minions guy?
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Zach
I got nothing but respect for the Minions.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. You like Kevin?
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Zach
I'm in.
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PFT Commenter
I'm in all things Minion. Yeah, I like the Minions, too. They're funny. They're fun. Yeah, yeah, they're very funny, but they're not an NFL team. No. Maine gets smoked on the field. Yeah.
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Memes
Bad.
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PFT Commenter
Although they would, you know, they would like luck into a touchdown somehow. Oh, like the. The flea flickers are hit and the Hail Marys are hitting for the Minions. Yeah, but, like, the third ones aren't.
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Memes
Hidden for the Minions.
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PFT Commenter
The. The opponent's dropping the ball at the gold line against the Minions, and then they're like, oh, we'll pick this up and run it the other way. Oh, we scored a touchdown. We won. We're the Minions.
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Max
That.
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PFT Commenter
That. You could see that happen.
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Zach
It would go, yeah, yeah, the Minions.
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PFT Commenter
Am I the memes? What are you Gonna say, are you Minions guy?
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Memes
Minions are a great team.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. No, they are. That's what I'm saying.
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Memes
Like, they'd win this game. They went through back breaking interceptions like the Minions.
- [109:38]
PFT Commenter
They would luck into it.
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Zach
The Minions would not play smash mouth football. The Minions don't run the ball.
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PFT Commenter
They accidentally.
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Zach
They're weak. They're weak. Yeah. Accidentally. They're not. They're weak against the run.
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PFT Commenter
They could accidentally do anything.
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Zach
They probably run the most gadget plays. They're probably very good at gadget plays.
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PFT Commenter
But not actually doing. They would just happen. But I mean, I'm a big Minions guy. But yeah, they would accidentally win this game. I think that's fair to say.
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Zach
They would never do.
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PFT Commenter
Do that. Yeah. Jim Harbaugh was not. Yeah, he was. He was avoiding every question and. And did not seem like he was in a good mood. Maybe there's. There's a chance Jim Harbaugh maybe loves Justin Herbert too much. Where he's not gonna do what Max just said and say like, hey, you're a big stupid pick guy. Like, let's face the facts. Maybe that he needs to say that to him.
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Zach
I think there's a decent chance that. That Jim Harbaugh was running scout team quarterback as the Colts quarterback this week. Getting ready for it because I used to play for him. Let me just put the helmet on there. I'll do a better job than anybody.
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Memes
Yeah.
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Max
For the record, I also know no stats on Justin Herbert's picks.
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Zach
No.
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PFT Commenter
I could be wrong.
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Zach
It's a good stat.
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Max
The vibes are big, stupid pick guys.
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PFT Commenter
Big stupid pick guy. Yeah. Jonathan Taylor has three games now with three rushing touchdowns. He has 11 on the season games with three, plus rushing touchdowns. 3. The jets games with three touchdowns.
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Memes
2.
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PFT Commenter
What are you looking at? I'm sorry, I didn't mean it to be. But that's a stat. Like, that should show it's more of Jonathan Taylor. So good. He's so good. And he does a thing where it. He does the touchdowns. It's kind of like Saquon last year where you're like on the 24. You're on the opponent's 24. You're about to be in the red zone. You're like, all right, here we go. This is where it gets tight. He's like, you know what? I'll just do it right now. In one play.
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Zach
He also had, I think the coolest touchdown celebration of the week when he got in the end zone. Just started skipping. Yeah, that was pretty cool.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we'll see what happens with. I feel bad for Shane.
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Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
When he. When he's not ready to get bolted up. Oh, memes. You don't like that. You don't think I should be feeling feel bad for Shane.
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Memes
No. He's almost winning record. Yeah. Franchise quarterback nut up. You lost to a good team.
- [111:59]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. I think it's more that they started 30 and they have looked bad since.
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Memes
Injuries happen to everybody. Nut up.
- [112:09]
Zach
So we gotta stop nut up and we gotta start nutting up.
- [112:12]
Max
Meme just keeps saying back here is like you guys wouldn't last a second in my shoes.
- [112:16]
Zach
It's probably true.
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Memes
BFT's moping around about his quarterback being injured. But like you're still. You have a franchise quarterback. We'll get to that.
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Zach
Thanks, man.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, we'll get to that game. Makes me feel good to that game.
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Zach
Hank, you can shut the up right now with that sigh.
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PFT Commenter
Pft. I think I'm excited for that. I think Pft law excited for that. Like two. Two words said for. For four hours this afternoon.
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Zach
Yeah, it was bad.
- [112:41]
PFT Commenter
All right. We'll get. We'll get to that.
- [112:42]
Zach
I. I looked up this afternoon and there were. We were 10 minutes into Sunday Night Football and I had no idea the game was on because I was just sitting here staring at my computer.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [112:51]
Zach
I'm usually locked on with my Sunday schedule and I just. I went to a K hole.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. All right, next game. Packers 27, Cardinals 23. The packers have won a game on the road. They looked not great doing. So they were. They. It basically was. The packers offense is. I don't know what it is. It's kind of still a work in progress where it looks clunky at times. The packers defense arrived today. Micah Parsons had three sacks. Rashawn Gary had the big strip sack in the third quarter. That's what got them back in this game. Also Credit to Matt LaFleur. Big balls of the floor. I don't know if you saw the. The, the sequence where it was fourth and two at the Arizona 29 with 230 left and they were down three lineup to kick a field goal. Call a timeout, which was their second timeout. So they basically were like, this is it. We're burning the boats. If you don't. If you don't get this fourth down.
- [113:47]
Zach
Yep.
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PFT Commenter
You now only have one timeout left. You. You. The game is over. Draws up the perfect play to Tucker Kraft. Goes in, goes. Gets a fourth down, scores A touchdown wins a game. That was a, A big balls move by Matt lafor.
- [114:02]
Zach
Yeah, it was. It was like, you're gonna have to sit in this if this one play doesn't work. And. And on the Cardinals side, they have now lost five games by a total of 14 points. Their last five games.
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PFT Commenter
Pretty crazy, I think. I think it might be 13 points.
- [114:17]
Zach
Lost by one point, lost by three points. Lost by one point. Lost by four points. Lost by four points.
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PFT Commenter
That's. That's 13.
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Zach
So we got 4. 411.1313.
- [114:31]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's 13 points.
- [114:32]
Zach
13 points.
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PFT Commenter
And they also, every single of their last five games have come down to the last play. Three of them field goals kicked against them, two of them hail Mary's. It did not work in the end zone.
- [114:43]
Zach
And they've been winning or tied in all five of their losses with I think it's under five minutes left in the fourth quarter.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. No, not only that, they've lost three straight games after leading by seven or more points entering the fourth quarter. That's hard to do.
- [114:59]
Zach
That was just some nice jazz. Some nice sad Cardinals jazz.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, my God.
- [115:03]
Zach
Talking about how bad their losses have been, and this one felt like they were gonna. I actually thought they were gonna win this one.
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PFT Commenter
I did, too. They're 0 and 5, by the way, since the Michael Vick jersey.
- [115:14]
Zach
Yep. And.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, and five.
- [115:15]
Zach
Listen, Kobe Brissette, I don't think you can watch the Cardinals now and be like, I miss Kyler Murray.
- [115:21]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [115:21]
Zach
Kobe Brissette is just. He's better at, at running this offense than Kyler was.
- [115:25]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's. I, I, I think the, the packers are, are really good, aren't they? They just don't look as dominant. You don't think so, Max? You don't think they're really good? I mean, they're 4:1 wood.
- [115:39]
Max
I don't know if they're really good.
- [115:42]
PFT Commenter
I.
- [115:43]
Max
What, like what? I think what constitutes really good being.
- [115:48]
PFT Commenter
Top three team in the nfc. Who, who would you take over them? Let's do it real quick right now. Would you take your Eagles?
- [116:00]
Max
We'll find out. We play them in a couple of weeks.
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PFT Commenter
I would take right now, definitely the Bucks.
- [116:04]
Max
Definitely the Rams.
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PFT Commenter
I would do. That's what I was gonna say. Bucks, Rams, then Packers would be how I'd rank the, the, the top of the Lions right this second. They killed the Lions.
- [116:12]
Zach
Yeah, but that was week one.
- [116:13]
PFT Commenter
It was, but until that, you know.
- [116:17]
Zach
I mean, the, the Pack and the.
- [116:18]
PFT Commenter
And the Cowboys tie is actually not looking as bad.
- [116:21]
Zach
No. And. But the packers lost to the Browns. They did.
- [116:23]
PFT Commenter
They did. That was a crazy game.
- [116:25]
Max
And then they beat the Bengal. They beat the Bengals by nine. The car.
- [116:28]
PFT Commenter
The barely beat the cart. Yeah, I mean, I. I don't think they've been impressive with their wins, but.
- [116:32]
Max
The Lions was very impressive.
- [116:35]
PFT Commenter
The commanders, I mean, they did body. The commanders, I think, also won all. All of their games. They've won. They've won. They've scored exactly 27 points. It's kind of weird.
- [116:43]
Zach
That is kind of weird. I think. I think that they're a very good football team with an extremely good head coach, which makes them.
- [116:52]
Max
We have better wins than the Eagles have better.
- [116:54]
PFT Commenter
I agree. Here's my fear. Here's my fear about the Packers. I think they're of a very good team that is like, rounding into form to get even better. Do you know what I mean? Like, they're going through the. The bullshit, like, figuring it out, and they're gonna figure it out and their offense is gonna look really good at some point. It's like, fuck. Just starting to happen. And Micah Parsons three sack game, like it's gonna start happening.
- [117:20]
Zach
They're starting to find golden too.
- [117:22]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, they're not. They're. They're not. They're not a finished product. But they're gonna. They're gonna get there and then I'm gonna be like, God damn it, I knew it was gonna happen.
- [117:30]
Zach
Yeah, they're. What's scary is they're a good team that's getting better.
- [117:33]
PFT Commenter
Right? And they're not. And. And their wins are not like they're. They're not blowing teams out yet. I just. This is all fears. I'm just saying out loud. That's. That's where I'm worried.
- [117:45]
Zach
I think they're a very good team. I'll say it. They're a very good team. Packers are a very good team.
- [117:48]
PFT Commenter
I won't go very.
- [117:49]
Max
Eagles are better than Packers.
- [117:50]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Okay, Neutral. I need you to. I need you to feel that way.
- [117:56]
Max
Looking at. At the right. Like the two teams that I said that are better than the Packers. Eagles are beat.
- [118:02]
PFT Commenter
Yep. Yeah, so what.
- [118:04]
Max
What am I talking about here? They lost to the Browns. The Brown.
- [118:09]
PFT Commenter
What?
- [118:10]
Max
Are the Browns better than the Giants?
- [118:13]
PFT Commenter
No, probably not. Probably same. Yeah, they're probably same. Yeah, they're probably same, but they.
- [118:20]
Max
The Giants killed you when our entire defense was out.
- [118:24]
Hank
True. Good point.
- [118:25]
PFT Commenter
Good, Good counterpoint.
- [118:26]
Hank
Thursday night.
- [118:27]
PFT Commenter
Thursday night doesn't count. Yeah, and it was. They were. They were bummed about the Phillies.
- [118:31]
Max
Yeah, everyone's bummed about the Phillies.
- [118:35]
PFT Commenter
Imagine a serie audience said that after the gameo is a huge.
- [118:41]
Max
He would start his Monday press conference every week of like what the Phillies magic number was just to like clinch the playoffs.
- [118:48]
PFT Commenter
All right, so maybe I'm just getting ahead of myself that I'm getting myself mentally prepared for the packers round and uniform.
- [118:53]
Zach
I think. I do think the packers are very good.
- [118:55]
PFT Commenter
I think their offense is not. Their offense has not looked smooth and I think it will eventually. Once it does look smooth, then it's going to be like a watch out.
- [119:03]
Zach
I think it's just like you're. You're not going to win every week in the NFL. You're going to lose some games that you should win. The packers most the time they win those games and they win them. Decided. Yeah, it's not. They're always going to be a good team when they have this core and They've got Matt LaFleur as their head coach. They're not going to just go out there and suck. They just never will.
- [119:22]
PFT Commenter
Who do they play next? The tie, really.
- [119:27]
Zach
They're at the Steelers Panthers Birds Sunday Night Football birds on the 10th.
- [119:33]
PFT Commenter
That's a Monday Night Football game, Max. Sorry.
- [119:37]
Max
No, that's November.
- [119:37]
Memes
Yeah.
- [119:38]
PFT Commenter
You're going to have to watch Monday Night Football.
- [119:42]
Zach
That's an off day for you.
- [119:43]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that is an off day.
- [119:45]
Max
No.
- [119:46]
Memes
Oh, yeah.
- [119:46]
Max
Yeah. I thought you were asking me.
- [119:47]
PFT Commenter
No. You're gonna have to watch Monday football.
- [119:49]
Max
Yeah, no, I think. I think I will. I will be attending that game.
- [119:52]
Zach
Oh, okay.
- [119:53]
PFT Commenter
Nice.
- [119:54]
Max
I think I will be. Boots on the ground.
- [119:55]
PFT Commenter
Love that.
- [119:56]
Zach
Very cool.
- [119:56]
Memes
Love that.
- [119:57]
PFT Commenter
Oh, that's in Lambeau because.
- [119:58]
Max
Yeah, it's at Lambo.
- [119:59]
PFT Commenter
Okay. All right, next game. Cowboys 44, Commanders 22 PFT.
- [120:10]
Zach
Yep.
- [120:11]
PFT Commenter
We haven't talked. No one's. You were. You were sitting here in silence, which. Understandable.
- [120:17]
Zach
Yeah.
- [120:20]
PFT Commenter
I was. Did anyone talk to him after the game? We all avoided any conversation.
- [120:26]
Max
I gave him some nachos.
- [120:27]
Zach
You did? The nachos were actually great. That was the best part of my night. Thank you, Max.
- [120:32]
PFT Commenter
All right, so let's talk.
- [120:34]
Zach
Yeah, I'm. I'm in a bad mental state right now. I'm feeling bad. I'm feeling like last season was a mirage and nothing ever good is going to happen to the Commanders franchise ever. Because nothing good ever has happened to them with the exception of last year, which was awesome. And I should have known that the universe will just circle back on me and that nothing good. We're never going to have a successful team ever again. We made the NFC Championship game. That was very cool. I enjoyed every second of it. Now all of our players are hurt. We are starting wide receivers today. Robbie Chosen was our wide receiver one.
- [121:19]
PFT Commenter
Not Luke AKA Whoa. Don't disrespect Luke.
- [121:22]
Zach
Luke. Luke played his heart out out there. Luke left his guts on the field. Great job with the return game today. Robbie Chosen was our wide receiver one. We had rookie Jalen Lane. We had Chris Moore, who's journeyman. The offense sucked. It didn't look like football. Our defense was worse. Our defense couldn't stop anything today. We just won't be able to stop anything. The Cowboys just had their way with us. Jaden Daniels got hurt and for a second I thought it was, I thought it was Dunzo. I thought acl, this is what I've prepared myself for. Mentally, every time he gets hit, I think something bad is going to happen. Something bad did happen to him. I think it's just a hamstring. I, I, he might be okay. I don't know how long he's going to be out. Marcus Mariota came in and give a thumbs up and he gave a thumbs up. And I, I have tickets to Arrowhead Stadium next weekend for Monday Night Football where now I guess I'm going to go watch Robbie Chosen and Marcus Mariota get their pushed in by Patrick Mahomes.
- [122:25]
Max
Whoa.
- [122:26]
PFT Commenter
Marcus Mario, didn't he win a playoff game in, in Arrowhead when he remember.
- [122:31]
Zach
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.
- [122:32]
PFT Commenter
So he's got, There you go.
- [122:33]
Zach
He's got experience.
- [122:34]
PFT Commenter
Come on.
- [122:35]
Zach
This, it was, it was bad. It was. The offense looked completely disjointed. But most importantly, here's the problem. Our defense is, is bad. And we have a lot of old slow players that play out there for us. And having Jaden have so much success as a rookie quarterback, that kind of got rid of the rebuilding plan that we had because you got to go all in if you have a good team. So Adam Peters is like, fuck it. Let's just go all in. We'll trade away some draft picks. We'll try to get some weapons. Let's try to win right now. Let's get Latimore at cornerback. And in reality, Jaden just covered up for a lot of bad stuff about the team last year.
- [123:14]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [123:14]
Zach
Which I, I said going into even like the end of the season, like, I don't think that we're a very good team. We're just pretty good. And then Jaden is just able to make stuff happen. On his own. We're. We're deep. Deep. We should be deep in rebuild, but we're not. And that is a problem. That's going to be a problem moving forward. I think it was bad. You saw the game.
- [123:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [123:36]
Zach
There's not a lot to be had. I'm starting to just think that everything that ever good happened last season is just. It was nice. I. Hey, I had the time of my life. 2024. What a magical run that was. I was so happy. I was a happy boy. And then reality set in and then Jaden started to get banged up. And then I realized. Same as it ever was.
- [124:00]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [124:01]
Max
And.
- [124:03]
Zach
That'S where I'm at right now.
- [124:05]
PFT Commenter
What's the. I mean, the Jaden injury sucks.
- [124:09]
Zach
Yeah.
- [124:10]
PFT Commenter
And he's. This is the second one this year where he's been banged up and it's gonna have to miss time, which sucks. Where are you at? Like, I mean, he's got it. I guess we got to find out what it is.
- [124:22]
Zach
I think it's. It's a hamstring.
- [124:24]
PFT Commenter
Okay. And just wait till he's all the way healthy. Don't risk it.
- [124:28]
Memes
Right.
- [124:28]
Zach
But he's going to want to play.
- [124:30]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Right.
- [124:31]
Memes
But.
- [124:33]
Zach
If it's a hamstring, I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. I'm just. I'm. This Monday night against the. Against the Chiefs is just going. It's going to be the saddest trip that I'll ever go on. Yeah. Like, I'm planning. I'm gonna have to plan my flight, my hotel room.
- [124:48]
PFT Commenter
Wait, you haven't bought any of that?
- [124:50]
Zach
Well, I. I do, but I gotta. You know, I gotta go through the whole thing of getting ready to travel on the road, go to the airport, pay money for an Uber to take me to the airport, fly on a smallish plane, a regional plane, into Kansas City, go to a tailgate, endure people being like, hey, we're about to kick your ass today. Then sit in my seat for an hour getting my ass kicked, and then go back probably pretty drunk to my hotel. And then go to sleep, wake up early in the morning on Tuesday, fly back, walk through the airport in Kansas City after just getting my ass kicked, land in Chicago, and then get into a cab, driving directly into the office where I will then have to talk on part of my take.
- [125:34]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [125:35]
Zach
About how I just got my ass kicked last night. That's. That's what I'm looking at. Right.
- [125:39]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [125:39]
Hank
Whose line is it anyway?
- [125:40]
PFT Commenter
Well, here's here's the. Here's a positive spin zone. Sounds like you might not have bought the flight. Just don't go.
- [125:46]
Zach
I know. I did buy the flight. Be sure I got the flight. Yeah.
- [125:49]
PFT Commenter
You got the hotel?
- [125:50]
Zach
I got the hotel.
- [125:51]
PFT Commenter
You sure?
- [125:52]
Zach
Yeah.
- [125:52]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [125:53]
Memes
Got.
- [125:53]
Zach
Yeah, yep. Got all that. I bought like the best seats I could possibly find because.
- [125:57]
PFT Commenter
Shout out game time.
- [125:58]
Zach
Shout out game time. I use game time. And I was like, you know what? This is going to be a torch passing game. Mahomes.
- [126:05]
PFT Commenter
He might play. He gave a thumbs up to his mom.
- [126:08]
Zach
He did also shout out to his mom. His mom wants people to stop saying RG3. You're manifesting that. Just stop.
- [126:14]
PFT Commenter
His mom said that.
- [126:16]
Zach
There's a difference.
- [126:16]
PFT Commenter
There's a difference.
- [126:17]
Hank
She tweeted, I wish you would. I wish you would stop manifesting RG3 on my son. Words are powerful and that's all that's talked about.
- [126:23]
Zach
Yep. I agree with, with Ms. Jackson.
- [126:26]
Hank
The replies are.
- [126:26]
PFT Commenter
I still feel like she should maybe just not have a Twitter.
- [126:29]
Hank
It's not pretty. She's not a pretty scene.
- [126:32]
PFT Commenter
She's in a lot of stuff.
- [126:33]
Hank
Did you see she got to catch up with Tom Brady before the game?
- [126:35]
Zach
I know. I didn't see that.
- [126:36]
Hank
Oh, beautiful moment. She's a nice, nice warm hug.
- [126:39]
PFT Commenter
They caught up.
- [126:40]
Zach
Yeah, that's good. That's good that the cut up.
- [126:41]
Hank
Nice warm.
- [126:42]
PFT Commenter
Mike Florio said early indications are the commanders QB Jaden Daniels injury is nothing serious. Serious.
- [126:47]
Zach
Okay, that's good. That's good. I mean, even if he does play next week, I don't know how you can win a football game with those receivers.
- [126:54]
PFT Commenter
How did he look before he got injured?
- [126:56]
Zach
He actually didn't look bad. The fumble that he had when he got injured, that was, that was a bad play. He was throwing the ball pretty well. I think they had three or four drops and the commanders also lead the league in drops now, which is not helping things. No, but I don't think he looked bad. He was running pretty effectively. He was pretty accurate. It was just mostly like the game started. The Cowboys scored right off the bat and we were just playing catch up.
- [127:21]
PFT Commenter
The Cowboys offense is awesome.
- [127:22]
Zach
It's very, very good.
- [127:23]
PFT Commenter
CD Lamb is back. He had 110 yards and a touchdown in the. Just in the first half. Jake Ferguson is awesome. I mean, we know George Pickens, Javante Williams, they're just loaded on offense. They're a fun team to watch. How much blame do we put on Jerry o'? Connell?
- [127:42]
Zach
I mean, a significant amount. Obviously.
- [127:45]
PFT Commenter
He released a video if you want to play it. Because he did say in the fantasy preview that Jaden Daniels was going to break all the records and was going to have like a out of this world year. Can you find that, Max? The video he just put out, he apologies. He's. He says he's already moving off. He also, like did like a Valley girl accent just out of nowhere, but not as like a bit. I think he's. I think he's hanging out with his daughters too much.
- [128:12]
Zach
And Kelly. And Kelly Safford.
- [128:14]
Memes
Yeah.
- [128:16]
PFT Commenter
We'Re, we're. We're done with Jaden. We hope he's okay. But I want to apologize to all.
- [128:23]
Zach
The Awls for saying in my fantasy.
- [128:25]
PFT Commenter
Preview back at Camp Barstool that Jaden was going to break all records and.
- [128:31]
Hank
This was going to be.
- [128:32]
Zach
Be a big season for him.
- [128:33]
PFT Commenter
It's just, it's just not happening.
- [128:38]
Hank
We have dart on the bench and.
- [128:40]
PFT Commenter
The Giants are the future of the NFC East.
- [128:42]
Memes
It's.
- [128:44]
Zach
What time was this recording? He gave the thumbs up to mom to mommy there.
- [128:50]
Memes
But.
- [128:52]
PFT Commenter
We'Re moving on.
- [128:53]
Zach
Pft.
- [128:54]
PFT Commenter
We're moving on.
- [128:55]
Zach
Oh, yeah.
- [128:56]
PFT Commenter
Just broke up with you.
- [128:57]
Zach
Well, no, he's saying that because Jaden's hurt, obviously, so he's not going to start Jaden next week, but he's going to come crawling back to Jaden the second he has a good game. I'm trying to figure out when does Terry come back? I don't know. I see. I don't know. Brown. I don't think Noah Brown lives in the state of Virginia anymore. He hasn't been around Terry. Obviously being hurt sucks. Debo was very clearly hurt in Monday Night Football. I don't know. We just don't have anybody to throw the ball to outside of Zach Ertz.
- [129:24]
PFT Commenter
Luke. Luke.
- [129:25]
Zach
They didn't, they didn't look expecting. They didn't look at Luke today and Luke was out there just fighting his dick off for you. Couldn't get even a sniff. It's. Yeah, mentally, I'm a puddle. I, I just melted into a puddle today when, when Jaden got hurt. Because you do go back and you flash back and you think if your team's never been good, you think, oh, nothing ever good is going to happen to us again. I, I still completely believe in Jaden long term. I don't think that the RG3 comparisons are accurate at all because Jaden, his rookie year was way better than RG3 was his rookie year. J R G3 had like six good weeks. He was injured for A little bit. What Jaden did his rookie year. I. And what I've seen out of him, he's still a very, very good quarterback. There's a lot that's going wrong around him, and also the injuries suck that he has to deal with right now. But I agree with Ms. Jackson. I stand with Ms. Jackson. Ms. Jackson. I got your back. Always.
- [130:21]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, Max, anything. As an NFC's foe, I don't, I.
- [130:28]
Max
Don'T have much to say. I don't like to see, See my, my friend upset.
- [130:31]
Zach
I don't like this. I don't, I don't like the vibes. I want you guys ask me a question.
- [130:35]
Max
I answered the question.
- [130:36]
Zach
I want you guys to be antagonistic. I want, I want to get mad at somebody.
- [130:39]
Hank
I put.
- [130:40]
PFT Commenter
I don't want Hungry dog.
- [130:41]
Zach
You're making me mad about the pity.
- [130:44]
Hank
There's. Yeah, no, clearly that was, that was a huge mistake, but I, I really believed in them.
- [130:49]
Zach
You put the cowboys in the hungry dog until the line flipped and then the, the commanders became the favorite or the underdog. So you switched them.
- [130:56]
Max
Meme said he wants to get you mad.
- [130:58]
Zach
Get me mad. Because, like, yes, I, I've been, I've been sad. I'd rather, I would rather be mad than sad.
- [131:04]
PFT Commenter
He has been sad. Like, he's, he's been. I walked in here, I don't know, like six o'. Clock. He was just sitting by himself, just not talking.
- [131:13]
Zach
I looked at Tankathon today.
- [131:15]
Max
Oh.
- [131:15]
PFT Commenter
Oh, God.
- [131:18]
Hank
Does.
- [131:18]
Memes
Is it.
- [131:18]
Zach
I looked at Tankathon.
- [131:20]
PFT Commenter
I know. I just did.
- [131:22]
Hank
You said you don't care about the Patriots. You only care about me. But is the fact that, you know the Jaden came before Drake may. Have you thought about that at all? Has that even crossed your mind?
- [131:32]
Zach
The thought that I have is that a million times out of million, I would take Jaden over Drake maybe there a million times.
- [131:38]
Hank
Okay, good to know.
- [131:39]
Zach
Yeah, a million times.
- [131:39]
PFT Commenter
What about staying on the field?
- [131:42]
Zach
It would be a positive step if he could.
- [131:45]
PFT Commenter
Memes. Go ahead. You want to get him mad?
- [131:47]
Memes
No, I'm just, He's just stealing my whole flow.
- [131:50]
PFT Commenter
So get him mad. Memes is a sad guy.
- [131:53]
Memes
You got, you got a new owner. You got a new quarterback.
- [131:55]
Zach
Yeah, I, listen, I love your own thing. Yeah, I, I, I love having mad. I love dudes. Oh, here's. Here's some good. Dan Snyder's yacht ran out of batteries and went adrift out in the Atlantic Ocean last week. That's awesome.
- [132:11]
PFT Commenter
That is awesome.
- [132:12]
Zach
Yeah, he had to get, like, towed in by a little puny tugboat loser. Yachu's batteries or his engine or whatever. You remember that one? That gas. The one that ran into the bridge? That's what happened to Dan Snyder. Out in the middle of the house.
- [132:24]
PFT Commenter
Got it.
- [132:24]
Zach
Yeah. So that. That kicked ass. No, you're right. Memes. I have a lot to be thankful for.
- [132:30]
PFT Commenter
Get mad.
- [132:31]
Memes
That's all I had.
- [132:32]
Zach
No, but I'd rather be mad than sad. I don't like that you guys are like, oh, is he okay? I'll be okay. Max.
- [132:38]
Hank
You.
- [132:38]
Zach
I'm allowed to be sad after Above.
- [132:40]
PFT Commenter
Jalen hurts.
- [132:41]
Zach
Yes.
- [132:41]
PFT Commenter
All off season.
- [132:43]
Max
I mean, that's fine. He. He's backing his own guy.
- [132:47]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, no, I know, but you could.
- [132:50]
Max
I don't.
- [132:51]
Memes
I don't know.
- [132:51]
Max
I don't know. I. The Commanders don't look very good right now.
- [132:54]
Zach
They're not.
- [132:55]
PFT Commenter
They're not good.
- [132:55]
Zach
They don't look.
- [132:56]
PFT Commenter
Their defense is old.
- [132:57]
Hank
Are you worried that the, you know, the Bears season completely collapsed after they lost the Commanders last year and that, you know, this year that might happen after the Commanders lost to the Bears?
- [133:06]
Zach
I, too, read Twitter replies. Hank.
- [133:10]
PFT Commenter
Here we go. Here we go.
- [133:12]
Zach
Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not concerned about that at all. I don't think that there's a weird voodoo curse that's going on between a game between the Commanders and the Bears.
- [133:20]
PFT Commenter
That happens every year, but it is now looking.
- [133:23]
Zach
It's one loss. We lost the. The Cowboys were probably going to lose the Chiefs.
- [133:28]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [133:28]
Zach
And then we got the Seahawks, and then you got the Lions, and then we get to go to Madrid. I might.
- [133:33]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Then we get.
- [133:34]
Zach
We get the Dolphins in Madrid. It's a very hard schedule, and our team's bad.
- [133:38]
Hank
Did you read the Twitter supplies to Ms. Jackson since you read Twitter replies?
- [133:42]
Zach
No, I didn't. Out of respect. You did.
- [133:45]
PFT Commenter
I thought you read Twitter out of.
- [133:46]
Zach
Respect to Ms. Jackson. I don't think that we should.
- [133:48]
Hank
You have an intimate relationship with him, which is really weird. We can say whatever we want about your boyfriend.
- [133:54]
Zach
He loves his mom. What can I say?
- [133:56]
Hank
I'm reading the Twitter replies.
- [133:58]
Zach
He.
- [133:58]
Max
Mr.
- [133:58]
PFT Commenter
I read Twitter replies.
- [133:59]
Zach
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you already read those. You already read those.
- [134:03]
Hank
What do you mean?
- [134:03]
Zach
Why are you rereading them?
- [134:04]
Hank
I'm. Well, you said you read Twitter replies. I'm just reading some to you.
- [134:09]
Zach
I think that Ms. Jackson is a great mom who's got nothing but the best interest for her son Jaden, and sometimes maybe people get the best of her and provoke her online.
- [134:23]
Hank
Your son is injury prone. Tell his skinny ass. Get his weight up.
- [134:28]
Zach
Thoughts? He's got a skinny ass like that, actually. Like, if Jaden came, if he just. You know what he needs to do? Spend the off season, just add, like, 30 pounds of anything.
- [134:39]
PFT Commenter
I also don't think he's injury prone. We're not there yet.
- [134:43]
Zach
Yeah, we're not there yet.
- [134:46]
PFT Commenter
We're not there yet.
- [134:47]
Zach
We're not there yet. He broke. He broke a rib last year.
- [134:49]
PFT Commenter
Oh, Max, you disagree. I'm looking at your face.
- [134:52]
Max
I mean, it's. He's. I think one can only be judged off of your.
- [134:58]
Zach
He's got it. Okay. He's got a sprained knee this year, and then he pulled his hamstring, Correct? Yeah, it.
- [135:06]
Max
Injury.
- [135:06]
Zach
We don't know if he's going to miss any time, though, with a hamstring. It's true.
- [135:10]
Max
If he misses time.
- [135:11]
Zach
Yeah.
- [135:12]
Max
Injury prone. That's three injuries now in two years that have caused him to miss time. Injury prone. I mean, he can, I guess, change, but right now the narrative would be injury.
- [135:27]
Zach
I would like. I would like to see his ass get a little thicker there.
- [135:31]
Max
There's one way to realize how injury prone Jayne Daniels is, and that's you watching him run the football.
- [135:39]
Zach
What do you mean?
- [135:40]
Max
That every time he runs the football, you're. You're just like, oh, yeah, I did.
- [135:44]
Zach
I did that before he got hurt to be healthy. I didn't know I did that week one. Also, Dak Prescott needs to buckle his chin strap tighter. He's getting calls for face mask just because his helmet's flying off. That's on you, Dak.
- [135:55]
Hank
Yeah, Dak, did you see RG3's tweet about this game?
- [135:59]
Zach
I did not. That did not come across my desk.
- [136:02]
Hank
I'll send it to you guys.
- [136:04]
Zach
Why'd you just say it? It's a podcast.
- [136:05]
Hank
Well, it was a picture, so it's. It's tough to say. A picture.
- [136:08]
Zach
I bet it's a hilarious meme.
- [136:10]
Hank
Yeah, it's a good meme.
- [136:11]
Zach
Does it involve a croissant?
- [136:12]
Hank
It does not.
- [136:13]
PFT Commenter
You want me to pull it up? Yeah, pull it up. Dear football fans, this is.
- [136:22]
Max
Oh, I know that one.
- [136:24]
PFT Commenter
He loves to do the safe space.
- [136:26]
Zach
Oh, it's a picture of him. Him reacting to the.
- [136:28]
PFT Commenter
The Cowboys score.
- [136:30]
Zach
Score. All right.
- [136:31]
PFT Commenter
Are the Cowboys, once you want one.
- [136:33]
Hank
A quarterback from your old. Like, would you want him supporting the Commanders?
- [136:38]
Zach
Your golden boy Tom Brady left your team and went down. Never Florida.
- [136:44]
Hank
He would never post a meme with a shocked face. If the Patriots got blown out, wouldn't you want like division rival?
- [136:52]
Zach
Hypothetically, if you had like an all time legendary coach, you would hope that he did not leave and then completely forbid his new team on posting anything about your old team.
- [137:04]
Hank
Allegedly.
- [137:05]
Memes
Yeah.
- [137:05]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Pft. I think everything's gonna be just fine. Jaden Daniels is gonna be fine and Debo and Terry are gonna come back and then you guys. You know what, here's what I think is gonna happen. I think you guys are going to be the team. I think you're going to be the team that, like, maybe they'll. People will bury you in the next two weeks.
- [137:28]
Zach
Probably three.
- [137:29]
PFT Commenter
Three weeks. Yeah. And then you'll be like, though, oh, watch out, here come the commanders.
- [137:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [137:34]
PFT Commenter
I mean, that could very well happen.
- [137:36]
Zach
Right. It honestly could become a problem for America.
- [137:39]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [137:40]
Zach
Like, because we've got Monday Night Football against the Chiefs. I think the Seahawks is a primetime game too. Yep. The Madrid game.
- [137:47]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [137:48]
Zach
Like, there's going to be a lot.
- [137:50]
PFT Commenter
But I see you guys being the, oh, watch out, here come the commanders kind of team, you know, like where it's like, oh, yeah, we forgot because Jaden Daniels got hurt and they lost a couple games.
- [138:00]
Zach
I'd rather we might get healthy at the right time.
- [138:02]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that, that type of situation.
- [138:04]
Zach
Things were so good when we beat the Chargers just a couple weeks ago, scored 27 points. We use the packers formula.
- [138:09]
PFT Commenter
It is true. The whole like rebuild comment is. It's true that like Jaden Daniels was. If you can fault him with anything, he was maybe too good year one.
- [138:17]
Zach
Yeah.
- [138:18]
PFT Commenter
Because it's like you went all, all in on like an old defense. You're going to have to just get younger on defense.
- [138:24]
Zach
We need probably two new linebackers, we need a new safety, we need a new cornerback, we need tight end to step up. I don't know why they don't throw the ball to Ben Sennett. We need a lot of help. There's a lot. We need another receiver. There's a lot of stuff that's going wrong right now. And yeah, it was a, it was a bad day.
- [138:43]
PFT Commenter
I got a question. That's not commanders. I'm sorry. Pft.
- [138:46]
Zach
This.
- [138:47]
PFT Commenter
This day did suck for you pretty bad. I felt bad.
- [138:52]
Zach
I thought it was ACL for a second. I was about to just. I was. I almost left. I almost pulled a memes and just went home. Yeah, a little bit.
- [138:59]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [138:59]
Zach
Collect my thoughts. Also.
- [139:00]
PFT Commenter
You did a great job up until this point of not being sad.
- [139:04]
Zach
I'm I'm more angry now, which is good.
- [139:06]
PFT Commenter
All right. Good.
- [139:06]
Zach
Yeah. Hank did a great job. Yeah.
- [139:09]
PFT Commenter
There you go, Hank.
- [139:09]
Zach
That's a good friend.
- [139:10]
Hank
I got you.
- [139:11]
PFT Commenter
I got a question for. For the class. Are the Cowboys like. They're not bad. Their offense is very good. I don't know.
- [139:20]
Hank
He's back.
- [139:21]
PFT Commenter
What? CDs back. Like, they. Their defense is bad, but there's something Cowboys. I don't know. There's just something about it. It's like they're going to be in every game. Yeah.
- [139:31]
Zach
Dak is playing as good as he ever has. And when he's got those two guys, it feels like. Like there's not a lot that can stop him.
- [139:37]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [139:37]
Zach
You can maybe take away CD or Pickens. I was almost right about the Pickens ejection, too. A lot of more. Gotten his face a little bit and they wanted to fight.
- [139:45]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [139:46]
Zach
Got broken up.
- [139:47]
PFT Commenter
Oh, I got this for. All right. For Cowboys fans, you're playing the Broncos next week. That's a gateway game right there. I gave you the Bears gateway game when it was against the Cowboys. If the Cowboys can beat the Broncos, they would then be what, four, three and one. And they have very winnable games against the Cardinals and the Raiders coming up. That could be a very quick. If they can somehow beat the Broncos next week, we could look up and the Cowboys could be 6, 3 and 1 going up. Going into a huge game against the Eagles.
- [140:17]
Zach
Yeah. I think that this season has now become. I don't think that the commanders are going to make the playoffs anymore.
- [140:22]
Hank
I don't.
- [140:22]
Zach
I don't see that coming close to happening, schedule and how we're playing. But I do see the possibility of the Cowboys getting good enough for the Cowboys fans to believe in themselves to then get hurt by the end of the season.
- [140:34]
PFT Commenter
There you go. So they were rooting for the Cowboys against the Broncos. Get the 6, 3 and 1.
- [140:38]
Memes
Yeah.
- [140:39]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Last game. Broncos, Broncos 33, Giants 32. That was an insane game.
- [140:46]
Zach
What happened?
- [140:47]
PFT Commenter
Sane game. The Broncos were dead. The Giants had them completely dead. And then The Broncos scored 33 points in the fourth quarter to win the game in the fourth quarter. NFL teams have won 1602 straight games when leading by 18 plus points in the final six minutes. The Giants blew that one. The Broncos, that was. It was insane. It was just absolutely insane. They're the first team in NFL history to score 33 points in the fourth quarter after being shut out in the first three quarters. I can't imagine the sample size is that big for that but still that's how crazy it was. They broke NFL history. Bonix basically sucked for the first three quarters. They couldn't do anything. And then he's like hey, wait a second, I'm Bo Nix with a little assist from Jackson Dart in a terrible interception. It was an incredible, I mean like what a game, what an insane game.
- [141:49]
Zach
This was a Tim Tebow game. Yeah, this was, it was a carbon copy of Tebow mania.
- [141:53]
PFT Commenter
But it should have been Jackson Dart that got the Tebow Mania Bowmania.
- [141:57]
Zach
It was, it was crazy at the end like it felt like the game slowed down for Bo Nix. He was running, he was scrambling effectively, he was finding open guys. It was just a completely different looking team in the last like three minutes of their offense than it was for the previous entire game.
- [142:12]
PFT Commenter
And, and, and the Giants like they blew this game. They blew it. Like Jackson Dart can't throw that pick. Also Brian Dable, you went conservative like that. That drive where he threw the pick was run up the middle. Run up the middle. And then Jackson dark get us a first down. He threw a bad pick that flipped everything. And then at the end of the game when they go down the field they got maybe a questionable pass interference called to get on the one to score. Two questionable, two questionable.
- [142:41]
Max
The pass interference and the roughing the.
- [142:43]
PFT Commenter
Pass and the roughing the passer. You're right. Yep. And they score their kicker, who's their backup kicker. Graham Gano I think is still hurt. Missed his second extra point of the day. So it makes it a two point game. And then they like didn't rush Bo Nix at the end and Bo Nicks like they, I think they dropped eight. He was able to find big chunk play. They had 33 seconds left. There was some also freaky like numerology going on because they were, they did A statue for Demarius Thomas. He passed away when he was 33. They scored 33 points in the fourth quarter. They got the ball back with 33 seconds. The start of the comeback was the Broncos scoring a touchdown in a two point conversion which is eight. Then another touchdown two point conversion which is 888. It's Demarius Thomas's number. So there was some cool stuff there in a crazy, crazy game. I, I, the Broncos are good. The Broncos got to stop fucking around because they did this with the Eagles too where they, they were down all game and then they just woke up at the end. That feels like they're playing with fire, but who cares, they're five and two.
- [143:51]
Zach
Yeah, here's the. Here's the drive chart for the. For the Broncos in the first three quarters. Punt, punt, punt, punt downs. End of half, Punt, punt. That takes you to the end of the third quarter.
- [144:05]
PFT Commenter
They couldn't do anything.
- [144:06]
Zach
Here's the fourth quarter. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal.
- [144:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [144:13]
Zach
Crazy, crazy into this game. Credit Sean Payton. Sean Payton got a penalty called on him after that pass interference was. Yep. That was a great penalty then.
- [144:22]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [144:22]
Zach
Because he was essentially telling the refs like you owe me so much right now. I'm willing. Who cares if you go half the distance of the goal from the one yard line right now? Now nobody cares about that. Nobody even tried to. To hold Sean Payton back. That was, that was some. That they had to fight through and overcome. But the Broncos, they just turned into different teams. So the fourth that it was a Tebow. As close as you'll get to a Tim Tebow game, ironically on demarius Thomas Day.
- [144:46]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it was, it was just an absolute wild scene. Yeah. Bo Nix was just.
- [144:52]
Memes
He.
- [144:52]
PFT Commenter
He remembered, oh yeah, I'm Bo Nix. I could start winning this game. He had four touchdowns in the, in the. Two passing, two running in the fourth quarter. Quarter alone. 174 yards. It. I don't know what to make of the Broncos. They are a good team and. But they have stretches where it's like, what is going on? Why. Why do they look so bad and like that first three quarters looked like the London game against like if you look at the Broncos last three games, they have played like maybe two good quarters.
- [145:26]
Zach
Yeah.
- [145:27]
PFT Commenter
But they're three and owing them.
- [145:28]
Zach
Yeah.
- [145:28]
PFT Commenter
So it, it's, it's a wild team to watch week to week and be like, when are they going to turn on? When are they going to wake up their defense? I think that's really what it comes down to is their defense keep. I know their Defense gave up 32 points today. There was that weird tipped ball to the tight end. Their defense does keep them in games so that they can have these type of games. And I. They are a good team, but they're also just playing with fire every single week.
- [145:55]
Zach
They are. The reason why I still think the Broncos are a legit team is because the two losses that they have, you could say were equally as freaky as some of the wins.
- [146:03]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [146:04]
Zach
So they've been on the wrong. They've already had, you know, they've been on the wrong side of that same coin a couple times. Yeah.
- [146:10]
PFT Commenter
They're gonna play every game this way.
- [146:11]
Zach
They're gonna keep playing Close games.
- [146:12]
PFT Commenter
Correct.
- [146:13]
Zach
And. And hope that the defense and Sean Payton is going to be enough to. To put Bo in a position where he could do something crazy to either win or lose by narrow margin. But I think the Broncos are for real. I think they're gonna stick around.
- [146:24]
PFT Commenter
Think about this game. The. The. The Bronco season, besides the Bengals, Monday night game, Jake Browning, when they could not move the ball and they absolutely killed the Bengals.
- [146:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [146:35]
PFT Commenter
Every single game that they've played besides that game could. It was like a true coin flip. Even the Titans, week one, Remember that game?
- [146:43]
Zach
Yeah.
- [146:44]
PFT Commenter
Like the Titans, if they didn't just completely implode, they only lost by eight. They were. The Titans were up, I think, at the end, or they were like, it's a one point game in the fourth quarter. The Broncos just play the ultimate coin flip games, and it's just which side is the coin going to flip to today?
- [147:01]
Zach
Yeah.
- [147:02]
PFT Commenter
So they're a fun team. Very fun team to watch. And just very chaotic.
- [147:08]
Zach
Yeah. If you're doing the chart of, like, chaotic bad, chaotic neutral, they're, I think, chaotic good.
- [147:13]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. I. I couldn't believe that game. It was nuts. Were you guys. I mean, I. I think I'm a boat bow believer, but there's also a believer. Yeah. He's a. There's like, you know, 3. 3/4 today where he looked terrible.
- [147:26]
Zach
Yeah. This is why you got to work hard to believe.
- [147:31]
PFT Commenter
It's crazy.
- [147:32]
Zach
I am. I consider myself a believer.
- [147:34]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah.
- [147:35]
Zach
I. I mean, I. I'm doing Nicks on it.
- [147:37]
PFT Commenter
I believe in the. In the Broncos, but I just. I. I'm also very scared of them, if that makes sense.
- [147:45]
Zach
Yeah.
- [147:46]
PFT Commenter
In, like, not. I'm scared of how good they are. I'm scared of, like, what they could do to themselves. Like, they're. You don't know if they got the gun pointed at their own head or it's someone else.
- [147:56]
Zach
Max, were you rooting. Were you rooting for the Giants to beat the Broncos as retribution or were you rooting for the NFC east to lose?
- [148:04]
Max
I was rooting for the NFC East. Lose for sure.
- [148:06]
Zach
Okay.
- [148:08]
Max
Yeah. Without question.
- [148:09]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah.
- [148:10]
Zach
Because the Giants beat you. Yeah.
- [148:11]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Have to. I don't. Yeah. The Broncos are crazy. They're crazy, man.
- [148:17]
Zach
They are crazy.
- [148:17]
PFT Commenter
They're just like. They're wild, they're met, they're messy. You would say the Broncos are the messiest we got in the NFL.
- [148:23]
Zach
But they're fun.
- [148:24]
PFT Commenter
They're so fun.
- [148:25]
Zach
They're fun.
- [148:26]
PFT Commenter
They'll. They'll remember you crazy. And Then they'll, they'll freak out about a text message and, and get in a fight with you at a bar for the entire night and ruin your entire night.
- [148:36]
Zach
Yep. You'll leave them. And then 20 years later, you'll think back about this Broncos team and you'll smile because they rocked your world.
- [148:45]
PFT Commenter
They'll. They'll give you the best time of your life. And they'll be like, were you looking at her? What the.
- [148:52]
Zach
Yep.
- [148:52]
PFT Commenter
And then just ruined the whole vacation.
- [148:55]
Zach
You're never going to tell your future team that you one time, one year, had a fling with this Broncos team.
- [149:01]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [149:01]
Zach
You're going to leave that off your body count.
- [149:03]
PFT Commenter
You'll, you'll, you'll. You'll be at a hotel getting your key card and say thank you to the woman behind the desk. And they'll be like, you. You wanted to hook up with her. Yeah. And that'll be it. That'll be the whole weekend we'll be gone. That's the Broncos.
- [149:17]
Zach
They're fun.
- [149:17]
PFT Commenter
They're so fun. Messi is all hell, though. Bad drunks. Okay, let's do a couple more ads and then we got Sunday night football. Talk a little baseball and who's Back and we'll get out of here.
- [149:30]
Zach
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- [150:26]
PFT Commenter
Okay, Sunday Night Football. I have the robot question for you guys. R H O-B A C K.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take my Roback. Question is, is this the best coaching job Kyle Shanahan has ever done? This. The Niners beat the. The Falcons. What was the final score? 20 to 10. And everyone's injured. Still, though they're getting some guys back. Kittle came back. Mac Jones is still their quarterback. Is this the best job?
- [151:00]
Zach
I don't know. He got Jimmy Garoppolo to a Super Bowl.
- [151:02]
PFT Commenter
Okay, all right. We're just going to throw it out there, but I know it's crazy how this. This basically is a reverse where the last year the Niners had the season from hell. They got everyone injured. The season just went to shit. This year, guess what? Everyone got injured again. But they're five and two because they.
- [151:21]
Zach
Still have Christian McCaffrey.
- [151:22]
PFT Commenter
They have Christian McCaffrey. I think he was awesome tonight.
- [151:25]
Zach
Were those their two first touchdowns by a running back this season or did Christian get one run?
- [151:31]
PFT Commenter
I think he got one last week. Yeah.
- [151:33]
Zach
Yeah. But they. It's. They're using them and they know that they're hurt, but as long as they still have that guy and Trent Williams leading the way for him, they'll be okay. Tonight was also national running back day. Oh, did you know that?
- [151:46]
PFT Commenter
No.
- [151:47]
Zach
They waited until like the fourth quarter and then they said, yeah, it's national running back day. That's extremely disrespectful to running backs to wait to announce that till the very, very end.
- [151:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I didn't know we had a national running back.
- [151:57]
Zach
It feels like, yeah, this is. Running backs have gone through enough recently with their contracts. The zoom call that they jumped on and they were like, yeah, this sucks to be running back. You could have given us, like, at least a couple days heads up that it was national running back aware to stay.
- [152:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I think for. So I. The Niners are good and like that. Mac Jones is playing well. Christian McCaffrey, they're going to get healthier. The fact they're five and two and holding this all together, it's impressive. I think I'm just on a strict. Maybe someone can remind this. I'm on a strict every other game with the Falcons. So I'm just going to. They. If they have a big win, you have to go against them the next game. When they lose, you go. You go on them the next game. Like just. I'm going to switch back and forth with the Falcons for the rest of the season.
- [152:44]
Zach
I think that's a pretty fair thing to do. Neck. That means that next week, though, you got to be back on them. Yeah, yeah.
- [152:50]
PFT Commenter
They're playing the Dolphins.
- [152:52]
Zach
You should have been off.
- [152:53]
PFT Commenter
And they're going to, they're going to.
- [152:54]
Zach
Murder the Dolphins and then at the Patriots. That's a loss.
- [152:56]
PFT Commenter
That's a loss. But then guess what? They're playing home against the Colts in a primetime game that's going to be a shock to world. While the Falcons are really good, that might be the Colts second loss of the season. Holy, look at the Falcons.
- [153:08]
Zach
Yeah, I could see that.
- [153:09]
PFT Commenter
That just. Doesn't it feel like the Falcons are just destined to be that team where it's like if they have a big win, just expect them to fall flat on their face the next week because it's just not like this was not a good game for them. And Michael Pennix did not look comfortable. Kyle Pitts did look good. So that's a plus. But I just. The. Until the Falcons can string a few together, I'm. I'm not going to be in the trust them category.
- [153:32]
Zach
Yeah, the way that The Niners use McCaffrey tonight, that's exactly how the Falcons should be using bichon every single week. Just that. That was the game script right there. Just feed them a steady diet of bichon and hope that things work out well. Put the ball in the hands of the guy who's the best player in the world with the ball in his hands.
- [153:49]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, facts. Yeah, they've won. They lost their first game, won their second game because they went, yeah, they lost the Bucks. It was like, oh, same old Falcons, even though it was close game. Then they dominated the Vikings on national television that Sunday night game. Then they got dominated by the Panthers. Then they beat the Commanders. That was with Mariota though. I think they had a bye week. Then they came back and won obviously against the Bills last week and everyone's like, I myself included was like, I think the Falcons are for real. And then they fall in their face in primetime against the Niners.
- [154:24]
Zach
Well, you know what? As bad as the Falcons looked at times, they were, they're not, not that far away even in the ugly game. No, like they, they had two, four.
- [154:32]
PFT Commenter
Well, the Panthers game was bad.
- [154:33]
Zach
Yeah. But in this game, I mean like they, yeah, they had two fourth downs. They got stopped on, probably made the difference in the game. They had a terrible offensive script and game plan and you only lost by 10.
- [154:43]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it just felt like they never had a good flow except for I think they had one drive. It was that drive in the third quarter when they came out. I guess that. Hank, they are the third quarter Falcons that, that Third quarter drive look good. Every other drive just didn't look like they, it would just a lot of third longs and a lot of, like, you know, dumb penalties that would put them back. So. Yeah, that's, I think that's my strategy for the Falcons.
- [155:06]
Zach
Yeah. Not the worst loss that you could have had. It sucked. If you're a Falcons fan, this is one that you were like, okay, if we win this, then, then people have to respect us. I don't, I don't think people have to respect the Falcons right now.
- [155:17]
PFT Commenter
That was my fault.
- [155:18]
Zach
I already respected you respecting. Too fast.
- [155:20]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I went too fast on respect. Should we talk a little baseball real quick? Because Friday night, Shohei Ohtani submitted the greatest game a baseball player has ever played. I think that's, I know that we live in a day and age where people will say whatever recently happened is the greatest thing ever. And we live in a day and age where hyperbole is king. I feel very comfortable saying that Shohei Ohtani hitting three home runs, pitching six shutout innings with 10 Ks in an elimination game was the greatest single game performance I've ever seen a baseball player play.
- [155:57]
Zach
Yeah, I think so.
- [155:58]
PFT Commenter
It's insane.
- [155:59]
Zach
It's basically the plot line of that movie the Natural.
- [156:01]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [156:02]
Zach
Where what's his name found Brendan Fraser and was like, this guy just broke baseball. Except this was real life. And Otani, you can't make an argument against that.
- [156:11]
PFT Commenter
You can't.
- [156:12]
Zach
Like, it's, he had the perfect, it's like doing two perfect games.
- [156:16]
Max
Yeah.
- [156:16]
Zach
On either side of it. And it might be the best game an athlete has ever played.
- [156:21]
PFT Commenter
I, I, Max, you're, you're a baseball guy. That was, I mean, it is, that was the best game I've ever watched.
- [156:27]
Max
Anyone trying to say anything otherwise is like, yeah, an idiot.
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PFT Commenter
Because you could, you could point out, like, someone pitching a perfect game or someone hitting four home runs, but they didn't do both. And I obviously didn't pitch a perfect game. But he up 2 hits, 10ks in 6 innings pitched, and hit 3 bombs. Absolute nukes. Absolutely.
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Max
On those balls were destroyed.
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PFT Commenter
He bent those over. And them. That's what he did to those.
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Zach
I think it was the best game in the history of sports. It might have been, but name it. Name a different athlete. Doesn't matter what sport.
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Hank
I mean, you can, I don't know.
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Zach
I don't think you can.
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PFT Commenter
Like, I'm thinking about, like, I have a question.
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Max
Yeah, Hank Travis Hunter. Do you take that back? Do you take that back?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's trying to remember what he said.
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Hank
No, I know what I said. No, I know what I said. I'm trying to. I'm trying to think of.
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Max
Remind the listeners what you said.
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Hank
I just said, you know, what Travis Hunter is doing might be more impressive than Shohei as of right now. That was wrong.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. I think for Travis Hunter.
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Max
Big of you to say that.
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Hank
If he makes the super bowl and, you know, maybe gets two interceptions and two picks, you might have to revisit it.
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Zach
Two interceptions and two picks.
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Hank
I mean, two interceptions and two touchdowns.
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Zach
I think it would have to be better than that. I think for Travis Hunter to have the football equivalent of this game, I think he would have to have.
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Hank
What about a pick six?
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Zach
He would have to have two. Two pick. Two pick sixes and three receiving touchdowns and 200 yards receiving.
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PFT Commenter
There's nothing he could do.
- [158:08]
Zach
Maybe even three picks. Three pick sixes, three receiving touchdowns.
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Hank
Yeah, no, yeah, sure is. I mean, it's. It's unbelievable what he did.
- [158:15]
Zach
It's great. In fact, Shoy Ohtani is. Is so good. I think it would. I think it's insulting to him if we don't ask if he's doing steroids. That's how good that game was. Like, he's so much better than everybody else on the field at two positions there. We have to be like, this guy has to be cheating.
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PFT Commenter
There's. Baseball's been played for 120 year, whatever the fuck, however far back you want to go. They've been playing it forever. There have been 12 times in the history of baseball that a player has hit three home runs in a playoff game. Game sh. Otani also pitched six scoreless innings with 10 strikeouts. It's unfathomable. He was hitting like 120 going into this game. And he won NLCS MVP. And everyone was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta give it to.
- [159:11]
Zach
Because of that.
- [159:12]
PFT Commenter
He was dog going into this game. And they're like, yeah, that was so insane.
- [159:16]
Zach
It.
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PFT Commenter
It's.
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Zach
It is a. The perfectest game.
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PFT Commenter
And the Dodgers were. I think I'm gonna. I think. Well, actually, I want to say something about the Brewers. The brewers are fucking sad sack losers pieces of shit. They didn't even have a fight. They didn't fight. They had nothing. They had the lowest batting average ever in.
- [159:38]
Zach
In.
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PFT Commenter
In a series. They had 118. They hit lowest ops, fewest. They had 14 hits in the whole series. How many runs did they end up scoring? They have like. Like four runs.
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Zach
I don't know.
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PFT Commenter
Higher series.
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Max
Four Runs.
- [159:52]
Zach
Four runs.
- [159:53]
PFT Commenter
Exactly. One run in every four runs. Worst four game stretch ever in brewers history, regular or postseason. Then, yeah, it's just like they broke every record. They just didn't even. They had nothing. The Dodgers just steamrolled them. And I know the Dodgers are really, really good, but still, they steamrolled the Dodgers.
- [160:12]
Zach
Also got the rotation back to a good spot. Yeah, they did. They shit pumped them. The Dodgers are just the best team, Baseball.
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PFT Commenter
I'm wondering. I want to phrase this correctly, because obviously I'd feel differently if the Cubs had lost. The Dodgers. And the Cubs. Look, Cubs could have got lost just like the Brewers. So I know it's loser talk, because the brewers beat the Cubs, and every brewers fan could say, hey, we beat the Cubs, but that was an uncompetitive series start to finish. I think we can all agree on that. I'm, like, getting close to the point where it's like, do I. Do I need to just, like, go along for the ride and just, like, not root for the Dodgers, but respect the fuck out of their greatness?
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Zach
I already do.
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PFT Commenter
I be bitter about it.
- [160:53]
Zach
I hope they don't win. I'm going to be rooting against the Dodgers. But, yes, they are that good. The crazy thing about them is with Ohtani, they can be dominant, but also, at the same time, be extremely fun because you get a guy doing something that has never even really been thought of before. Like, a game like this will stand for the next, like, hundred years in baseball.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. Max, are you gonna say nothing?
- [161:18]
Max
I. Nothing. Nothing.
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PFT Commenter
What?
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Max
I was just gonna say I want them to smoke. I want them to smoke whoever in the World Series just so that I can say the Phillies were the second best team.
- [161:28]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Zach
That was a real World Series.
- [161:30]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Zach
Yeah, yeah.
- [161:32]
Max
People are saying that was.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, if you. If you only. What? If they sweep the World Series and you're like, we were the only team that beat them in the playoffs and we had.
- [161:40]
Max
And we had a better run differential.
- [161:42]
PFT Commenter
Oh, wow. That's huge.
- [161:43]
Zach
That's what we talk about.
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PFT Commenter
No, I like the Dodgers. I'm done complaining about how they've ruined baseball because they. Again, it's jealousy. Like, everyone should want an owner who's willing to pay, and they do it the right way, where they pay, and they. They make guys happy and like their team. You know what I mean? Like, they pay. So what I want. I want to pay.
- [162:07]
Zach
I'd like to see.
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PFT Commenter
I'd also like to pay.
- [162:09]
Zach
I'd like to see Ohtani do it from the right Side of the plate. That's next.
- [162:13]
Memes
Yeah.
- [162:13]
Zach
Become a switch hitter.
- [162:14]
PFT Commenter
That was insane.
- [162:15]
Zach
It was crazy. Best. Best day I think, ever for any athlete in any game. Maybe just the best day anyone's ever had.
- [162:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [162:23]
Zach
Dolly Parton wrote two hit songs. Jolene and I will always love you on the same day. That was a good day.
- [162:30]
PFT Commenter
That's a pretty good day.
- [162:31]
Zach
This was better.
- [162:32]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I know. I. I was a little harsh on the brewers, and I'm partially coping, but, like, if you can't even survive an entire calendar week after you eliminate the Cubs, like, I don't. Like, you weren't even. It. You weren't even in the next round.
- [162:45]
Zach
They got too drunk.
- [162:46]
PFT Commenter
They were gone on Friday. They eliminated the Cubs on Saturday. They were gone on Friday. That's crazy. And it was. It was nothing. It was not even a second. And. Yeah. Yeah.
- [162:58]
Zach
But the Blue Jays Mariner series has been great back and forth.
- [163:01]
PFT Commenter
Also, the brewers are going to, like, try to like that. This is what the Brewers. You can't complain about not spending money and then have your owner like. Like, be like, hey, we might. We might trade Freddie Peralta because we owe him $9.8 million next year, and we control him for one more year. Like, just all owners. It's. I think my brain has shifted where it's like, I'm sick of complaining about the Dodgers. We should be complaining about the Pirates owner and the Reds owner and the. And the Rockies owner. And all these owners that don't want to spend a dollar. That's who should get the blame.
- [163:30]
Zach
Yeah.
- [163:30]
PFT Commenter
Not the Dodgers. Yeah, right.
- [163:33]
Zach
Dodgers are. They're being smart.
- [163:35]
PFT Commenter
Right. Like everyone else who's making money and not spending it. You're the ones who should be pointed at. Not the Dodgers for spending money. Yeah. They're in a big market. Yeah. They make more money. I get that. But still, like, if you're. If you're a Pirates fan, you shouldn't be mad at the Dodgers. You should be mad at your owner. I'm mad at the Cubs. I'm mad at Tom Ricketts for not spending more money.
- [163:53]
Zach
And guess what? All the owners that say that we're losing money and that that's why we can't spend on. Ask them one simple question. Will you please open up your book so that we can verify that you're. And they. They will never do it because they're not losing money. In fact, the valuation of their teams alone.
- [164:09]
PFT Commenter
Correct.
- [164:10]
Zach
Is making them a shitload of money year over year.
- [164:12]
PFT Commenter
If you're losing money Sell your team.
- [164:15]
Zach
Yeah.
- [164:15]
PFT Commenter
It's so simple. And they won't just sell your team.
- [164:18]
Zach
You want to know why they will.
- [164:18]
PFT Commenter
Make a lot of money if you sell your team.
- [164:20]
Zach
You want to know why they're not going to sell their team?
- [164:21]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah.
- [164:22]
Zach
Because they're making money.
- [164:22]
PFT Commenter
They're making money.
- [164:23]
Zach
Yeah.
- [164:23]
Max
Yeah.
- [164:23]
PFT Commenter
So I, I. Something where I'm just like, I'm done. I'm done complaining about it. I, we. We're doing the thing where we take too much heat off of the actual bad actors, the owners that are not spending any money and put it on the Dodgers when it should be. Yes, the Dodgers are spending a lot of money and yes, it sucks if they win every single World Series. But the real problem is all these losers that are not spending enough money and making money hand over fist. And I put Tom Ricketts in that category. So I'm in. I'm in the category of blame your owner, not the Dodgers.
- [164:54]
Zach
You know what's crazy is for as much money as they paid Shohei with that contract, he's making the money. Like he's. That's a good investment.
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PFT Commenter
No, I think they already made the money back.
- [165:02]
Zach
What said what he did. That is. That is a awesome payoff for your huge investment that you made. Only downside to it is like, I don't know where he can go from there.
- [165:11]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [165:12]
Zach
Like, we probably just saw Shohei Ohtani Peach.
- [165:14]
PFT Commenter
Also, if you, if you're even having wavering about what I just said, think about this. The fucking Angels, who are such, like, pieces of shit, had Shohei and Mike Trout and they didn't make the playoffs.
- [165:26]
Zach
And Rendon. Yeah, they paid Rendon too.
- [165:28]
PFT Commenter
They're. I mean, but like, that tells you that, like, don't be mad that Dodgers are just doing it better than everyone else.
- [165:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [165:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. The, the Blue Jays Mariners. Game 7 is going to rock.
- [165:39]
Zach
This whole series has just been back and forth, back and forth. The game on Friday night wasn't incredible.
- [165:43]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [165:44]
Zach
The grand slam, maybe the best moment in Mariners history.
- [165:48]
PFT Commenter
Incredible.
- [165:48]
Hank
Right?
- [165:48]
Zach
I would say that that's probably number one.
- [165:50]
PFT Commenter
Maybe the. Probably the clinching game against the Yankees in the ALDS in 95 when Randy Johnson came in and the neg Martinez.
- [165:59]
Zach
I mean, this is.
- [166:00]
PFT Commenter
That one was sick though. This has to be up there to go to the alcs. But yeah, that, that was an awesome moment. I. I'm just gonna sit back and watch and enjoy the. Out of baseball.
- [166:12]
Zach
Yeah.
- [166:12]
PFT Commenter
Game seven. Like, it's gonna be awesome. Max, who do you have your, your.
- [166:18]
Max
My Buddy had it.
- [166:19]
PFT Commenter
Your buddy had a bad night.
- [166:21]
Max
Tough, tough Friday.
- [166:22]
PFT Commenter
I like that. Max, like, can't escape baseball even though the Phillies are out. He just texted us on Friday night. He's like, yeah, that was my boy who gave up that home run Cal Raleigh loaded.
- [166:32]
Max
It was bad.
- [166:32]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And he's like, I'm getting a bunch of tweets blaming me.
- [166:36]
Zach
Max, what'd you think about Springer standing strong in the box and taking that pitch off the knee?
- [166:40]
Max
Love that. That's what I'm talking about.
- [166:42]
Zach
The. The replay of that that was miked up. It sounded like a double to the gap.
- [166:46]
Max
Yeah.
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Zach
Off of his kneecap.
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Hank
Love it.
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Max
By the way, I did some math because I wanted to make sure that I was. That I wasn't talking out of my ass about me getting hit by pitches a lot. There's 150 abs that are. That I can access right now. Like from my college career. I got hit in 6% of abs. The. The leader of all time in the MLB history. Some guy from the 1800s, and he got hit in 5% of at bats.
- [167:12]
Zach
That's pretty good.
- [167:12]
Max
So I buy my. I stand by my.
- [167:16]
Zach
You're the greatest to ever do it.
- [167:17]
PFT Commenter
Pfd. You want to ask the follow up that you asked when you told us this?
- [167:20]
Zach
Yeah. Max, do you think that has anything to do with like, the square surface area of how, like, there's been some.
- [167:27]
Max
Big ball players out there?
- [167:28]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [167:28]
Zach
I mean, there's a. There's a reason Jose Altuve isn't leading the league. And hit by pitch.
- [167:32]
Max
He probably gets hit by.
- [167:34]
Zach
Yeah, he probably does. But for the purpose of this joke, if he was your size, you'd get.
- [167:40]
Max
Hit by a lot more.
- [167:40]
Zach
A lot more. Yeah.
- [167:41]
Memes
Yeah.
- [167:41]
Zach
You got your own gravitational pull.
- [167:43]
Max
Hell yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Some of these.
- [167:44]
Max
Yeah.
- [167:44]
PFT Commenter
Let's get close to your orbit.
- [167:46]
Zach
Yeah.
- [167:46]
Max
Yeah.
- [167:46]
Zach
Ball just gets sucked in like a planet getting absorbed by the sun.
- [167:50]
PFT Commenter
I'm happy we're getting a game seven. And you know, and again, like. Like the. The Dodgers is sweet, but we got to see incredible moments. Mostly Shohei and the rest of their pitching. So who do you guys have in game seven?
- [168:03]
Zach
I gotta go with my M's.
- [168:05]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I think I'm rooting for the. For the Mariners. Someone picked the Blue Jays, so that way. Toronto Blue Jays. Okay. There you go. Yeah.
- [168:12]
Max
Your boy. Yeah.
- [168:13]
PFT Commenter
He's gonna come back.
- [168:14]
Max
He might not pitch again. He'll throw him back out there.
- [168:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, throw him back out.
- [168:19]
Zach
I think Big Dumper's about to have it a game. He's gonna go poo poo poo.
- [168:23]
Memes
Big dump.
- [168:24]
PFT Commenter
We're gonna go poo poo Shane Bieber on the bump. He's in that fantasy league. I should send him a trade request right before chance. He would look if he.
- [168:35]
Zach
If he accepted it.
- [168:36]
PFT Commenter
If he accepted it.
- [168:38]
Zach
Actually, the funniest thing would be if he. If you sent him that before the game, he went out there and lost. And then, like, five minutes after the game. Accepted it.
- [168:46]
PFT Commenter
Accepted it. I was like, I'll just do it. Yeah, I should. I should actually send him, like, an insane trade request. That's good for. For him. So he has.
- [168:54]
Zach
Yeah, he'll be thinking about it.
- [168:55]
PFT Commenter
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Hank
Hank, who's back of the Week Are thieves.
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Zach
Oh, okay.
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Hank
Oh, they got the Louvre.
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PFT Commenter
What?
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Zach
There's a heist.
- [169:41]
Hank
There was a heist.
- [169:41]
PFT Commenter
I missed. Dude, what happened?
- [169:43]
Zach
I love a good heist.
- [169:44]
Hank
They broke into the Louvre, which I would have to imagine, like, if you're.
- [169:47]
Zach
A thief, like, that's, you know, it's number one.
- [169:49]
Hank
Number one boring place to go rail.
- [169:53]
Zach
I agree.
- [169:54]
Hank
And they got a bunch of, like, what do you call them? Jewels that.
- [169:58]
Zach
Yeah. You can't put a price on them crown jewels.
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PFT Commenter
The Mona Lisa.
- [170:02]
Hank
They did not get the Mona Lisa.
- [170:03]
PFT Commenter
Exactly. It's overrated.
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Hank
But, yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where you think, you know, with technology and. And everything just getting taken online and kind of like, AI taking people's jobs, it's kind of like how. Lot of thieves and. And like, burglaries.
- [170:16]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Kind of. Kind of old. Old hat. I. I agree to know that, like, there's still thieves that are planning heists, especially at the Louvre and, like, making it happen.
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Zach
Yeah. Real old school, like, throwback type.
- [170:28]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Like, I'm. I. I don't condone.
- [170:32]
Hank
I condoned robbing the lou that's I got nothing but respect.
- [170:35]
Zach
I condone heists. Yeah, yeah. You've got like a guy in the truck that's outside. If you've got like a crew that you have to assemble and they've all got like different skills and you, you code names. Code names. I condone that. Yes.
- [170:47]
PFT Commenter
And like, and, and, and a bunch of them kill each other after.
- [170:52]
Zach
Afterwards. Yeah.
- [170:53]
PFT Commenter
Yes. There's only one standing.
- [170:55]
Zach
One guy's like, I thought we weren't going to do any violence.
- [170:57]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And then one guy shows up in a new Cadillac, says, take it back. Yeah, take it back.
- [171:02]
Zach
No, they said, yeah, armed with power tools, a crane lift and a ladder.
- [171:07]
PFT Commenter
That's badass.
- [171:08]
Zach
I, you know, I, I expected the Louvre to have better security than that. Yeah, I think that the. I think the Louvre. Really. Overrated.
- [171:19]
PFT Commenter
Way overrated. Yeah.
- [171:22]
Hank
They got some crowns. They got Napoleon's wife's crown. They left it behind.
- [171:26]
PFT Commenter
Oh, they left it behind.
- [171:28]
Hank
It fell out when they were running.
- [171:29]
PFT Commenter
Ha.
- [171:29]
Zach
That's awesome.
- [171:30]
PFT Commenter
Oh, that I see. I don't like that.
- [171:32]
Hank
No, that might have been. They might have left it like.
- [171:34]
PFT Commenter
Okay, because I don't want sloppy thieves. I like, if they were able to just bang, bang, they did in seven minutes. I'm looking it up right now.
- [171:42]
Zach
But then you get to imagine like they met up at the hotel room later. They're looking at their loot. And then one guy's like, hey, where's Napoleon's wife's crown? He's like, oh, must have fallen out of the suitcase. You got sloppy. And then.
- [171:54]
PFT Commenter
Frank, what the did you do? Okay, I'm in for this.
- [171:58]
Zach
No, I like, I like this a lot.
- [171:59]
PFT Commenter
It happened at 9:30 on Sunday morning.
- [172:01]
Zach
That's crazy.
- [172:02]
PFT Commenter
People were watching football. Yeah, yeah, I know. Football wasn't on then. Time zones. They probably had Hawaii game maybe.
- [172:10]
Zach
Yeah, they were experienced thieves that broke into the gallery with this cutter.
- [172:15]
PFT Commenter
No duh. No.
- [172:16]
Hank
Yeah.
- [172:17]
Zach
Now where do you go if you, if you rob the Louvre? Where do you go to sell that?
- [172:22]
PFT Commenter
There's black market.
- [172:23]
Hank
Yeah. Sicily.
- [172:25]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, for sure.
- [172:26]
Zach
Probably. Maybe Amsterdam.
- [172:27]
PFT Commenter
No, some. Some billionaire is gonna buy some. Like Russian old gar's gonna buy that for sure.
- [172:32]
Zach
Listen, I wanted this collection, but I really needed Napoleon's wife's crown. Yeah, it's just incomplete. Now I've got Napoleon's facial hair.
- [172:41]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah.
- [172:42]
Zach
It's pretty much the same thing Macaron said.
- [172:44]
PFT Commenter
We will recover the works and the perpetrators will be brought to justice. Everything is being done everywhere to achieve this. Yeah, right. Dude, you ain't finding them.
- [172:52]
Zach
What if he was in a perfect crime? It was him and his wife.
- [172:55]
Hank
I saw, like, a news report where I was, you know, a bunch of old people mad that they. They went to go see the Mona Lisa, but it was closed for the day.
- [173:03]
Memes
Wow.
- [173:03]
Zach
I mean, I would. I would. If I planned to go to the Louvre this day and it was closed because of a heist, I would. I would tip my cap.
- [173:09]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [173:09]
Zach
Say that rocks.
- [173:11]
PFT Commenter
Wow. I love this. Hank, these are back.
- [173:15]
Zach
Yeah. You know what? If France still had it, they would just organize and get like a hundred people to go to the police station tomorrow morning and turn themselves and be like, I'm the thief. It's just, we the thief.
- [173:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [173:24]
Max
It'd be way cooler to say that you were at the Louvre the day that it got heisted.
- [173:30]
Zach
Yeah.
- [173:30]
Max
Then you were just, like, randomly saw Mona Lisa. Who gives a about Mona Lisa?
- [173:34]
Zach
Yeah.
- [173:34]
PFT Commenter
This crane is cool. I love this.
- [173:37]
Zach
All right, we should do a heist.
- [173:40]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [173:41]
Zach
Oh, steal the bean, dude.
- [173:43]
PFT Commenter
I. I think we've talked about this now. Now we need. We need the minions for that. Yeah, we've talked about this before, but it would be so badass. I don't think they can do. Do this legally, but, like, they have escape rooms. Just simulate bank robberies. Yeah, like, how fun would that be? Like, what are you doing Friday night? We're gonna go fake rob fake robberies, though.
- [174:07]
Hank
You need muscle.
- [174:08]
Zach
No.
- [174:09]
PFT Commenter
No, you don't.
- [174:09]
Hank
I like. I like. I like museum and like art. I like this type of without.
- [174:13]
PFT Commenter
But how sick.
- [174:14]
Hank
Bank robberies. Every movie in a bank robbery, then someone shoots someone by accident, and then you're.
- [174:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but you got to get in.
- [174:19]
Hank
You got to, like, you get one battle after another.
- [174:21]
PFT Commenter
You get like, fake cap guns or something or whatever. They can do paintball guns. And it's like, hey, you gotta rob this. How fun would that be?
- [174:29]
Zach
That would be a blast.
- [174:30]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, just simulate those.
- [174:31]
Zach
The trick. You gotta have somebody on the inside if you're robbing a bank.
- [174:34]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you do. You always gotta have someone on the inside. They definitely had someone on the inside.
- [174:39]
Zach
Definitely.
- [174:41]
PFT Commenter
Okay, good. Who's back?
- [174:42]
Zach
I love that heist. My who's back of the week is. Hey, Shout out Max and Memes. Podcast producers. Oh, podcast. Podcast producers are back big time this weekend. I don't know if you guys saw Pablo Torre finds out on Friday, but he dropped a new episode. Yes, this. I mean, I know guys like Hank were saying, hey, Pablo only goes after Bill. He only goes after Jordan, but this episode Just made me realize what a great producer Jordan is. He's, like, working overtime. She knows Adobe Photoshop, and I don't think I've ever heard Hank, what is it? Adobe Photoshop.
- [175:20]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [175:20]
Zach
And that's. That's a word.
- [175:22]
PFT Commenter
Not just Photoshop.
- [175:22]
Zach
Adobe Photoshop. I'd never heard Hank talk about that before. Never heard Max talk about. Never heard memes talk about it. But it's editing. It's editing software that you can use to make graphics. And so Jordan, when she was helping to produce the coaches podcast with Matt, Patricia, and Bill Belichick, was being very helpful, saying, hey, this font could be better. It should be leathery. It should look like football. Maybe we can do this so it's animated and then we'll be able to reuse it. And it was just really a master class in Jordan being Jordan and helping her. Helping her boy out, really being a five tool girlfriend.
- [175:55]
PFT Commenter
She's a girl boss. And Pablo's coming off as a little misogynistic.
- [176:00]
Zach
Oh. For not thinking that Jordan would know what Adobe.
- [176:03]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I mean, like, how is that the big news? Yeah, of course she knows Adobe Photoshop.
- [176:09]
Zach
It was very funny.
- [176:09]
PFT Commenter
She could screen. She screenshot, clip it.
- [176:12]
Zach
Boom.
- [176:12]
PFT Commenter
Now you got a graphic.
- [176:13]
Zach
It was very funny watching the. The actual producer of the podcast, like, just put his head down when she was explaining what they should be doing.
- [176:21]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [176:22]
Zach
Kind of felt bad for that guy.
- [176:23]
PFT Commenter
It's also very funny that, like, Pablo came on this show and explained that he does a mix of, like, the. The somewhat boring things where he's, like, looking into the clippers and what they're doing, and then these things with Jordan that get a lot of clicks, and he's like, yeah, I got to do both. But every time he posts a Jordan clip, everyone's like, you're just. You're such a. This bullshit podcast is bullshit. It's like he told you he's gonna do both. And I think it's pretty good podcast. Hank doesn't agree. Hank, I was actually getting mad about people getting mad at you for your reply, because your reply was funny, saying that he needs to look into the Jared Goff touchdown.
- [177:03]
Hank
Yeah, he does. He needs to. He needs to focus on other things.
- [177:07]
PFT Commenter
Like Jared.
- [177:09]
Zach
Yeah.
- [177:09]
Hank
Like if Pablo Torre had bet Jared Goff first touchdown scorer, the NFL would be shaking in their boots. I can't do anything, but Pablo can.
- [177:17]
PFT Commenter
Pablo can do it for Hank.
- [177:19]
Zach
Pablo or Pablo. How about this? How about. How about you just teach Hank how to do an investigative journalism? And so then Hank can look into these things on his own.
- [177:28]
PFT Commenter
Now, that's a podcast I would listen to.
- [177:30]
Zach
Yeah.
- [177:31]
PFT Commenter
Pablo finds out how dumb Hank is.
- [177:36]
Zach
I think that'd be a great podcast. He's like your mentor and, like, whatever you want to look into, he will teach you how to submit, like, a Freedom of Information act request.
- [177:45]
Hank
I like Pablo. That would be. That would be fun.
- [177:47]
PFT Commenter
That would be fun. We should do that. Hank goes to school.
- [177:52]
Zach
We do need a capital J journalist on this podcast.
- [177:57]
PFT Commenter
Oh, Hank's thinking, no, I like.
- [178:00]
Hank
No, I like Pablo.
- [178:01]
PFT Commenter
What are you gonna say, Pablo?
- [178:03]
Hank
But I like. I like Paula.
- [178:05]
PFT Commenter
But no, I.
- [178:09]
Hank
I like him.
- [178:13]
Zach
Hank, are you afraid that if he teaches you how to dig too deep into stuff, you're gonna uncover some things that you don't want to know?
- [178:19]
PFT Commenter
No, absolutely not.
- [178:21]
Hank
No, no, no.
- [178:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, no, I. I do. Like, if you're underdog, like, what. Who's leaking that? That's a problem. Huge problem. Huge, huge problem.
- [178:36]
Hank
It was probably. It was probably the guy in that clip.
- [178:39]
PFT Commenter
You can't have that. You can't have the clips just getting leaked out. Hot mic clips.
- [178:44]
Zach
Yeah. I think you know who comes out looking.
- [178:46]
PFT Commenter
What? What, now you got a new show?
- [178:49]
Hank
No, no, no.
- [178:51]
Zach
You're gonna send some stuff to Pablo?
- [178:53]
Hank
God, no.
- [178:54]
Zach
Oh, I thought that. There's one person that came out of this looking great.
- [178:58]
PFT Commenter
Jordan.
- [178:58]
Hank
Patricia.
- [178:59]
Zach
Yeah, Jordan and Patricia.
- [179:00]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [179:01]
Zach
Yeah. Patricia. I didn't know that he had that type of patience.
- [179:04]
PFT Commenter
He just sat there and was just like, I'm just gonna deal with this. My. My boy's getting some primo. I just gotta chill out. Just take it. We've all. We've all been in that spot. Like, look, he's happy. I'm happy. I'm not going to break them up. What are you gonna do? His first time getting some primo. What are you gonna do?
- [179:24]
Hank
It's.
- [179:24]
Zach
It's gotta be driving him nuts. Bill's gotta just love it. Oh, I actually think Bill might still be extremely happy.
- [179:33]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [179:34]
Zach
Even given the State of Carolina football right now. I think he's have the time of his life.
- [179:37]
PFT Commenter
He probably doesn't even know that. This guy. I think probably someone said like, hey, Bill, hot mic came out.
- [179:43]
Zach
He's like, all right. Yeah. I think he's punching that clock, and.
- [179:46]
PFT Commenter
He'S gonna stop me getting primo.
- [179:48]
Zach
Just getting his world rocked.
- [179:53]
PFT Commenter
Any thoughts?
- [179:57]
Zach
Patricia's happy too. Patricia. He's. He's at Ohio State having the time of his life.
- [180:02]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [180:02]
Hank
Patricia's probably three. Yeah. This is a much, much better spot.
- [180:05]
PFT Commenter
He's Got a great job, Matt.
- [180:07]
Zach
Patricia probably wakes up every day reading stories about UNC being like that. That was close. Yeah.
- [180:12]
PFT Commenter
Holy. I'm on the best team in the country.
- [180:15]
Zach
Yeah. And I get the best defense.
- [180:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I get to just be the defensive coordinator of a loaded roster.
- [180:20]
Zach
Yeah.
- [180:21]
PFT Commenter
That's sick.
- [180:22]
Zach
Pretty good. Yeah.
- [180:24]
PFT Commenter
All right. My who's Back of the week is fired coaches. Because Billy Napier got fired, and I actually think so. He got 9.7 million right away within 30 days. I think his whole buyout's, like, 18.
- [180:36]
Zach
Okay.
- [180:36]
PFT Commenter
I think we need to start doing this more often where if you're going to fire your coach, let him go out with a win because he won on Saturday night. He beat Mississippi State. They still fired him. That's kind of a nice way to go out.
- [180:47]
Zach
Yeah. If possible.
- [180:48]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And also, we had fired coaches. James Franklin going on game day, which I. That was genius for him because he basically just had Saban carry the water.
- [180:58]
Zach
For him, just being like, it's. It's insane and disrespectful what they do to coaches now.
- [181:02]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I saw some people being like, why is he doing this? Like, what do you think? Why. Why wouldn't he do this? He basically gets to go on national television, and Nick Saban gets to say everything that James Franklin wants to say but won't say while James Franklin is sitting there nodding along.
- [181:17]
Zach
Yeah. I mean, at. At the end of his tenure, James Franklin could be like, I was wildly successful here.
- [181:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [181:23]
Zach
And then I. And then things kind of fell apart at the last second.
- [181:26]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. And we'll see who else gets fired. I don't know what Wisconsin's gonna do. We're just gonna keep getting our teeth kicked in. Did you guys see the Oregon Duck jerseys? They're so, so awesome.
- [181:37]
Zach
Yep.
- [181:37]
PFT Commenter
They're so awesome. Zach, your who's Back of the Week? My who's Back of the Week.
- [181:42]
Zach
This week is going to be mainly number one food review podcast MD Foodie Boys. Yum. Maryland.
- [181:48]
PFT Commenter
Foodie Boys parodied on snl. Yeah, it was pretty funny. Sweet.
- [181:53]
Max
Look. Yeah.
- [181:53]
PFT Commenter
The skit itself is actually funny as well. Yeah, they. Those guys rock. Yeah, they rock.
- [181:58]
Zach
Good look.
- [181:58]
PFT Commenter
Sprinter Carpenter's in the skit.
- [182:00]
Zach
I thought she was really good.
- [182:00]
PFT Commenter
She was fantastic. Did you see the performance as well in SNL or just a sketch?
- [182:04]
Zach
No, I just saw the. The mirror scene. Yeah, it was.
- [182:07]
PFT Commenter
It was awesome.
- [182:08]
Zach
Yeah.
- [182:08]
Hank
What mirror scene?
- [182:09]
Zach
Look for that. She was, like, dancing in the mirror or something.
- [182:11]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [182:14]
Zach
I don't know what song it was. I forget I forget the name of the song. Doesn't have the sound on. But she was great. She was a great actress.
- [182:21]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. The MD Foodie boys are up.
- [182:23]
Zach
Way up.
- [182:23]
PFT Commenter
Way up. Good. Who's back? Zach, you excited for the Bucks game? Give us a prediction.
- [182:29]
Zach
I'm looking forward to the game prediction. Early prediction for the game without them playing any plays is going to be Buccaneers win in Detroit.
- [182:37]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Lions are pretty banged up secondary wise. And Brian Branch is out for one game suspension.
- [182:44]
Zach
One game suspension. Yep.
- [182:46]
PFT Commenter
And Seahawks, Texans should be. I actually think that game's going to be kind of a slog, but, like, not. Not that they're bad teams. I think it's just gonna be a defensive battle.
- [182:55]
Max
I think I'm gonna opt in the sports tomorrow.
- [182:57]
PFT Commenter
Let's go, Max. Yeah.
- [183:00]
Max
That was good sports.
- [183:01]
PFT Commenter
Bonus sports.
- [183:01]
Zach
Really good sports.
- [183:02]
PFT Commenter
I think it's gonna be a great sports.
- [183:04]
Zach
One of these two football games is going to be great.
- [183:05]
Max
And game seven.
- [183:06]
Zach
And game seven.
- [183:07]
PFT Commenter
Game seven. Pray for anyone who doesn't have either YouTube TV or multiple TVs. What? What you don't have.
- [183:15]
Max
Are you still giving me that other. That TV you said you were gonna give me?
- [183:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [183:20]
Hank
Tomorrow.
- [183:20]
Max
No, not tomorrow, but like.
- [183:23]
Zach
Yeah. You weren't asking for tomorrow, though.
- [183:26]
PFT Commenter
He wants it for tomorrow.
- [183:27]
Max
Would have been nice.
- [183:27]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [183:29]
Zach
Actually, can you make it happen tomorrow?
- [183:30]
Hank
Maybe 10 chance.
- [183:34]
Max
That's better than zero. There's a lot of sports on tomorrow. I'll get whatever.
- [183:38]
PFT Commenter
What would you say the percentage is if you had to do enough?
- [183:40]
Hank
I said ten.
- [183:41]
Memes
Three.
- [183:42]
PFT Commenter
There you go. There you go. Memes.
- [183:44]
Zach
Memes.
- [183:45]
Max
Going to win it today.
- [183:46]
PFT Commenter
Let's go, Memes.
- [183:47]
Memes
Islanders versus Sharks tomorrow, too.
- [183:48]
PFT Commenter
Great.
- [183:49]
Memes
Great game.
- [183:49]
Hank
Huge Sharks coach said he was gonna give up his coach. He would give up his kid for a win.
- [183:54]
PFT Commenter
I like that. Okay. That's how bad I hate his kid.
- [183:57]
Zach
Yeah.
- [183:58]
Hank
That was almost 33 back. I guess I gotta go 10.
- [184:02]
Memes
That was gonna be 3. 33 or 88 today.
- [184:05]
Zach
I'll go 4. I'm gonna go 15.
- [184:09]
PFT Commenter
Like 8. 88.
- [184:13]
Max
99.
- [184:14]
PFT Commenter
4. Wait, what? What did Jack say? Jack said 4. I said 4. Jack, he just. He just wants to repeat numbers. Oh, he can't hear 32.
- [184:35]
Zach
Damn.
- [184:35]
PFT Commenter
You want to do one more?
- [184:36]
Max
Yeah.
- [184:37]
PFT Commenter
Everyone say their number so that we have it on record.
- [184:39]
Hank
22.
- [184:41]
Max
3, 33.
- [184:43]
Zach
8, 44, 86, 15.
- [184:49]
PFT Commenter
4 memes. This one I think you're gonna get. I really do think it's gonna be three. I think it's gonna be three. I. I would love for you to.
- [184:59]
Max
Get it right it could be three. I think it's gonna be 82.
- [185:08]
Zach
Oh.
- [185:14]
PFT Commenter
This guy. How many is that, Pug? What? That. I think that's seven now.
- [185:20]
Zach
Dynasty. Hey, Paul, give us one of these.
- [185:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, show it to us. You got rings everywhere, bro.
- [185:26]
Zach
Yeah, you and Shane. Ring, boys.
- [185:27]
PFT Commenter
Holy.
- [185:29]
Zach
There we go.
- [185:29]
PFT Commenter
That was crazy.
- [185:30]
Zach
7.
- [185:32]
PFT Commenter
It's been a while. It's good to be back.
- [185:34]
Zach
How long has it been? Feels like forever.
- [185:37]
Max
Yeah, it's been like I was on.
- [185:39]
Zach
A hot streak, but it.
- [185:40]
Max
There was a big gap, for sure.
- [185:41]
PFT Commenter
Damn, Memes, why don't you just start taking 99?
- [185:44]
Memes
I tried that. You guys cried.
- [185:46]
PFT Commenter
No.
- [185:47]
Memes
You guys cried.
- [185:48]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we might.
- [185:49]
Zach
Oh, you haven't won since. Oh, like.
- [185:51]
PFT Commenter
No, that's. That. That can't be right.
- [185:53]
Zach
You haven't won in a year.
- [185:54]
PFT Commenter
I feel like he's won recently. No, it has been a while. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wow, Pug, you had a streak of a cold streak going. Yeah, I know. It was good for you, dude. It's good to be back. It's good to be back. It's huge. Wow.
- [186:08]
Zach
Is that the longest losing streak anyone's ever had on the show?
- [186:11]
PFT Commenter
No, over a year. I don't know what was Hanks?
- [186:18]
Zach
Oh, no, it's probably not, cuz Memes hasn't gotten it yet.
- [186:21]
PFT Commenter
Ah. How close is. Is he still far away from Hannah? How far away is Memes from Hank?
- [186:31]
Zach
I'm actually afraid of memes right now.
- [186:33]
Memes
Why? Because this is an electric. Electric podcast segment.
- [186:39]
PFT Commenter
People love it. Come on. Do you, me, Zach, or Max doesn't know how to work this? No, not even close. If you want 99.
- [186:49]
Hank
He's not even looking.
- [186:50]
PFT Commenter
Not even close to close.
- [186:51]
Hank
Anything relative to the question.
- [186:54]
PFT Commenter
Trackers. Look at track trackers. Maybe tracker. Go up to tracker.
- [187:03]
Hank
His headphones aren't on.
- [187:04]
PFT Commenter
No, his headphones aren't on. He's just. He's lost right now.
- [187:07]
Memes
This is you, Lander, going through.
- [187:12]
PFT Commenter
We know. We've been talking about you the whole time. You just. You're not even close to looking at the right places.
- [187:17]
Max
I. You're like, I gave Pug my headphones. I. I have.
- [187:20]
PFT Commenter
No.
- [187:20]
Max
I know that doesn't mean.
- [187:22]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you still. We're. We're looking to see how long. How. How close is memes to catching Hank?
- [187:28]
Max
Oh, yeah, it's right here. I couldn't hear you. Meme tie Hanks record.
- [187:33]
Zach
Oh, wow.
- [187:34]
Max
Oh, wow. He's got a tracker for you.
- [187:37]
Hank
Got a clock.
- [187:38]
Max
Yeah, we do. We have to get a clock.
- [187:40]
PFT Commenter
263 days. Oh, my Gosh Okay, Memes, you got to get you this.
- [187:47]
Hank
He'll get it.
- [187:48]
PFT Commenter
He won't get it. That's so long, Memes. Think about that. Memes, when would you get nervous?
- [187:54]
Memes
I don't know.
- [187:55]
PFT Commenter
Okay, 100. 100 days? If I don't know, you'll get it.
- [188:02]
Zach
Memes, what were you saying about. About. Was Pug bitching when you.
- [188:05]
Memes
Oh, yeah.
- [188:07]
PFT Commenter
No, you didn't ask. Oh, you didn't ask permission.
- [188:09]
Memes
What the kind of show is it?
- [188:11]
Zach
Just stole.
- [188:12]
PFT Commenter
You just stole it? If you were like, can I have it?
- [188:16]
Memes
I'm sorry I didn't ask permission for your lottery ball and has to borrow your car.
- [188:26]
PFT Commenter
All right, we'll see everyone Wednesday.
- [188:29]
Zach
All right. Good job, Pug. Congrats. Congrats, Pug. Thank you.
- [188:31]
PFT Commenter
Congrats, Pug.
- [188:32]
Zach
All right, love you guys.
- [190:35]
PFT Commenter
It.