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NFL Week 8, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders Hail Mary, Jameis Is All The Way Back, The Jets Are Dead + World Series Talk
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PFT Commenter
Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon music.
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Big Cat
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PFT Commenter
Then get a small fry, a small drink and a four piece McNuggets.
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Big Cat
That's a lot of McDonald's for not.
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PFT Commenter
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Hank
What.
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PFT Commenter
Let us be the first to wish a happy National Tight Ends Day to all those that celebrate and a happy Halloween in Houston where this election day our second amendment rights are at risk. After an AR15 fired erratically on Sunday, Joe Mixon a water kept the Colts defense sober in a back and forth affair as Josh Downs goes Frazier was able to keep the Colts close. The Colts had a chance to tie it late, but it was Daniel Hunter S. Thompson who went gonzo mode on the struggling Colts QB, ending the game for the Texans. Texans 23, Colts 20 we go down.
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Memes
To Tampa Bay where Kirk did you know FDR married his cousins, was wheeling a new dealing. No one thought he could use his legs, but here he is going for 13 yards getting Falcons fans out of a great depression. Chris Kyle Pitts cut a body from a long distance away and it was literally a no scope as the refs didn't have a good angle to see if he scored. Cade Ottoman Empire made the defense look like turkeys and was a constant tennis presence in the Falcons end zone, scoring twice. The Falcons walk into your trap. Take over your trap. Falcons 31, Bucks 26 in Miami, where.
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PFT Commenter
The Dolphins were back to playing 2A Girls One cup, but this time their quarterback learned how to slide, making sure no one in attendance threw up. Trey McBride and prejudice was a tough read for the Miami defense, going for 124 yards on the afternoon, the Cardinals hung tough, leaving it up to Chad Ryland boy living in the Caribbean to kick the game winner. Hey, whatever happened to those guys Teege?
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Hank
They sucked each other's dicks. Boom.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, sorry for asking. Cardinals 28, Dolphins 27 we head to Cincinnati where Max was on the scene.
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Big Cat
Jalen Skrt skirt was put into turbo mode after rushing for three touchdowns and adding another in the air, the rookie corner duo of Snooper De Gene and Quizzian Mitchell were playing young and wild and free while forcing the Bengals receivers to drop it like it's hot. After getting blanked last week, Devontae Sam Smith told AJ Brown, you know you're not the only one as he went off for 85 yards at a touchdown, Ja'Marr Johnny Chase said I am the fucking game pal when he secured one of the only touchdowns for Cincy but unfortunately it was not enough to secure the victory. Eagles 37, Bengals 17.
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PFT Commenter
We head on over to Foxborough where Hank is on the scene for a stunning huh huh. Stunning result.
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Eddie
Down to the Lighthouse where the team with the worst record in the NFL and the projected number one draft pick with an unfathomable amount of dissension in the locker room and a banged up offensive line, the New England Patriots went up against the super team New York jets and the explosive Aaron Rodgers in Devonte Adams duo. In the first quarter Drake May was.
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PFT Commenter
Run man, run man run man run.
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Eddie
Man as he scampered for 17 yards and a touchdown.
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PFT Commenter
Tyler.
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Eddie
Lynn caught a two yard touchdown on his own to tie the game. The jets seemingly had the game wrapped up in the fourth quarter after Braylon Greyjoy Allen's scored a go ahead touchdown with three minutes left. But Ramon Dre Stevenson said what is dead may never die as he scored with 25 seconds left to give the Patriots the win.
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Memes
25:22 over to Detroit where everybody loves Raymond Khalif had 190 return yards and a touchdown Freemason Rudolph and the Tennessee Titans are starting a secret society of sock and it was on full display against the Lions. There's a Laporte on the Midwest bay and it serves 100 catches a day. The Lions say Danny, you're a fine coach, what a good champ you would be. But we got Gauff, Amon, Ryan, Monty, we're top C Do do do do.
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Hank
Do do do do do.
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Memes
The Lions 50 to Titans 14.
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PFT Commenter
Out west to Las Vegas where Xavier drama for your mama Worthy scored early as the Chiefs look to Kareem Pie Hunt the Raiders in Mark Davis house. Travis Scott Kelce was feeding the end zone as he scored for the first time this season as the Raiders are last show world in the AFC West. The Chiefs now 7.0 debuted their newest weapon DeAndre Anthony Hopkins as they look to eat the NFL's liver with some fava beans and a nice canty. Chiefs 27 the Raiders 20 we head out west where Memes and Shane rode a boomer and we have no idea how it's going to go.
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Max
We go to sunny LA where Dennis Allen has had it with these motherfucking Spencer rattlesnakes in this motherfucking game. Justin Gatlin Herbert gashed the saints Steve for 50 rushing yards while J.K. rowling Dobbins said when Guardian Leviosa and floated his way into the for a touchdown. Joe Rogan alt asked Jim Harbaugh how they plan to beat the Saints. Two things I said Ladd McConkey, you're going in Blake Group 6 tried to bang 24 guys points I mean by himself but came up shy Saints 8.
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PFT Commenter
Chargers 26 great job memes.
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Memes
We go down to row John Maryland at a stadium that appropriately looks and feels like a toilet bowl because it was a matchup of number one and number two Zach Art so good. Come on baby, make it urch so good. Sometimes gloves don't stick like they should even though aren't so good. Joe Torrey Taylor earned his Aussie punch.
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Hank
Stripes saying is this punt returnable?
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Memes
Nar no no no. The Bears dialed up the fridge plate and put the game on ice but fumble as Donald Trump Newton stopped the special Russian military operation, saying, you don't want to do that Madame Ear. The Bears took the lead on a late score, but then Jaden Daniel Day Lewis went method acting as the good old version of Aaron Rodgers and threw a Hail Mary where Tyreek Stevenson put his left hand up. The commanders huh? 18 the bears 15.
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PFT Commenter
Standing on the corner, Jamis Winston, Cuyahoga. Such a fine sight to see. He's now QB1. The Browns are having fun. The Lamar can't beat the afc. His arms are heavy, he's calm and ready and there's vomit on his sweater. Mom spaghetti brown's 29, ravens 24. And that is the fastest two minutes of week eight, brought to you by our friends at Chevy. There's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks and that's because for pardon my take, there's only one pickup truck. The Chevy Silverado. Why is that? Silverado is a partner. A partner you can depend on. We've all spent time driving and using the Silverado for all kinds of, pardon my take, jobs, adventures and other shenanigans. Silverado has been our ride for a cross country trip to the Super Bowl. Silverado helped us dig the biggest hole ever in the state of Ohio. Last year at Grit Week, Silverado helped us give fullbacks the recognition they deserve with the Low Man Award. And this year Silverado was out west with us for our latest Grit Week. Silverado brings the grit to legendary grit paired with modern truck tech inside and out. Massive screens, up to eight cameras with 14 different views to help make driving, towing and parking all easier. We love the bold blacked out look of the new Silverado HD trail boss. So head on over to Chevy.com to build your own Silverado or Silverado HD and check out all the current offers on Silverado. Discover a world of strength and capability all behind the wheel of our favorite truck, the Chevy Silverado. Okay, Week eight in the books. What a what a Sunday it was. What a Sunday it was. We don't usually start with games in the afternoon, but let's rip the band aid off. That's why pretty much everyone is here. Commanders 18, bears 15 PFT. I give you the floor. That was.
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Hank
I don't, I don't take the floor. I feel like people, people tune in for sickest reasons.
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PFT Commenter
Well, we should have, we should have probably taped immediately after because when. So the game was horrendous to watch. Kale played really bad for three quarters. He played really great for the last quarter. Had two touchdown drives. One. Two game winning touchdown drives. One that was not a touchdown drive because we decided to hand the ball off to Doug Kramer.
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Hank
That was a wild call. That was just insane wild. Watching that. It's, it's tough what Bears fans have to go through with, with the coaching and the play calling this year. That's why you have a fullback. That's why you have a guy. Roshan Johnson, who's a fullback or yeah, just a short yardage running back. But you can't expect you can put like a backup offensive lineman in the game and deputize him as a fullback and be like just go block somebody. But you never give the ball to that guy unless it's like William Perry. Well, he's even on defense.
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PFT Commenter
The best way I could describe that play was that was a play that you run when you're up three touchdowns and you're trying some fuck shit. Not play that you run when your offense can't do absolutely anything for an entire game and you still have a Chance to win the game and you decide to do that. That's not the time and place. But anyway, we can get to the coaching and all that because I got thoughts on that. The. The Hail Mary happens. And I was. At first, I was just like, of course. Because I kind of. We were sitting in the gambling cave. White Sox Dave, who I love, but he was like, I'll never apologize for a win. After the Bears, a touchdown to go up one. And I was like, dude, we got a two point conversion and there's 23 seconds left.
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Hank
I thought my best hope at that point was to get a pick two on the two point conversion.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Oh, I thought a field goal was still in play. Just because you know you can. You can get a bomb field goal. There's a timeout, but I never thought it would be that. And the minute Jaden Daniels got like the second, like he scrambled and then he got a second scramble in the pocket. I think. I think you can watch the video. And I was like, oh, no. Oh, no. Because that's. That means everyone's set up. Everything's set up. And then to have it be a tip pass just perfectly land into Noah Brown's hands. I went in what I would say is just shock. And like I went up to my office and I was sitting there and my body, it felt like I had the fever. A fever. Because my body was like overheating and it was just like numbness all around. Like my legs were numb. That. And then I finally calmed down, or not calm down. I was calm because I was. I was numb. I finally came to, I want to say. And then I went online and saw Tyreek Stevenson waving to the commanders fans and talking shit and then not doing his job, which was to be the guy covering Noah Brown in that situation. And I went numb again.
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Hank
Yeah. So Tyreek Stevenson, he was talking to Terry McLaren earlier in the game. I think he got a personal foul. He did the point through a guy's face mask. That guy's a piece of. And then on the. On the last play, he was definitely lined up on that side of the field. Noah Brown didn't see the ball get snapped because he was waving at the fans.
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PFT Commenter
You can see Bears fans pointing to him to tell him to go play the. Go play.
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Hank
Yeah, good coaching.
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PFT Commenter
Go do your job.
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Hank
That were there. And so then he runs into the big mess of humanity, loses track. Noah Brown, who's the trailing guy? Who. That's what he's supposed to be doing.
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PFT Commenter
That's what Tyrek Stevenson is He's supposed to be guarding him.
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Hank
He's supposed to be behind and. Yeah, there's just.
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Eddie
He got to the ball first.
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Hank
Yeah, he did. He put his left hand up.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. It's not where he was supposed to be, though. He was not supposed to be there.
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Hank
It was. It was a crazy last play. So going back, I thought Jaden played really well today. I thought he had an awesome game, an outstanding game. And the rib, I have a theory that his rib was never actually hurt. I think that after that first run of the Panthers game, the coaching staff was like, hey, Jaden, it's the Panthers. You just ran easily for 50 yards. First play of the game, let Marcus take over, go to the training room. And then all week long it was all secret. They couldn't get a picture of the guy. He was like bigfoot. You couldn't find him anywhere. And then he gets out there and immediately starts running and running well with the ball. And he played awesome. The red zone often stinks, but I think maybe the working theory is just don't bother with the red zone. Just throw the ball from the opponent's 40 yard line every time and that'll work out. So he held the ball for 12.7. Yeah, 12.7 seconds on the Hail Mary that he threw, which is the longest. I think that's the longest in the history of next gen stats to hang onto a ball before throwing a touchdown pass.
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PFT Commenter
And I just want to say, because I saw some Bears fans being like, what about the holds? Tyreek Stevenson negates all the holds. That's. That's who you should be worried about. There's no, there's no, you know, we talk about all the time that when you have a call go against you and you do the screen grabs and you put. It doesn't matter when you have a defensive back not even paying attention to the play, that's where all the blame goes. And it goes to Eberfluz and it goes to everyone on the coaching staff and, and the. That they threw out there after a bye week. But yeah, that. There's no. You can't be like, hold. We had a guy who wasn't even playing.
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Hank
Yeah, I did see a couple of those screen grabs. I saw some of those video clips. If you're complaining about a minor hold on a Hail Mary, just get over it. Again, those are never called.
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PFT Commenter
It doesn't even matter if it was. It could have been the most egregious hold. We had a guy not playing.
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Hank
Yeah, you had a guy that was Yelling.
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PFT Commenter
That's the problem. Yeah, it's crazy.
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Hank
That's a much, much bigger issue. But that. The last play, I thought. I thought the commanders were done, but he got the ball down the field a couple times. He took what the defense was giving him. And then Tony Romo's dumbass. First of all, he jinxed her kicker the second before the kick was attempted. He's like, he hasn't missed all season.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
He, like, snuck that in.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
And then goes up, misses the field goal. And then Tony was like, I think they should put in Marcus Mario to throw this hail Mary. Fuck you, Tony. You're wrong. Tony's very wrong.
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PFT Commenter
It was short.
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Hank
It was. Yeah, it was a little bit short, but it. It ended up working out. And I think that that is probably the happiest I've been. This is actually how sad my life as an NFL fan has been. I think that play that I just got to witness today, that is my happiest moment as an NFL fan since I've started watching football. Because the Redskins won a Super bowl when I was, like, six. I don't remember that. I remember the celebration afterwards. I maybe remember a little bit of it. But since then, you know what my second favorite memory is probably. Besides obviously, Dan Snyder selling the team. I don't count that as football, though. It's off the field. On the field.
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Eddie
Monday Night Football, RG3.
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Hank
Monday Night Football was cool this year.
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Eddie
But no, I would have been the Vikings game.
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Hank
I would say. No, I would say winning a playoff game in Tampa. We beat Chris Sims, and we won 17 to 10. I think Mark Brunell had, like, 35 yards passing that game. That, until. Until today was my best football memory. And then this was just. It was. Sometimes, no matter how fucked up you are as an organization, sometimes there. There are guys. And I think that Jaden Daniels is one of those guys that he completely changes everything, like, completely makes people take you seriously because he's that special and that good. I'm very. It's like when North Korea got the atomic bomb. It's like, yeah, you guys are a ridiculous organization, but now we have to kind of respect you, give you some space. He's my atomic bomb. And he's so good, and I love watching him play.
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PFT Commenter
I'm just a loser. I don't really know. I don't. I mean, I'm happy for you. I'm a loser. I've always been a loser. I'm a loser. I don't. It was a terrible football weekend, start to finish. I thought it was going to be bad. It somehow was way worse. And it was, somehow we talked about it on Friday being like, what would get the best ratings? What would get the most people watching? This is it.
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Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
That. That ending was it. That was a dog shit game by the Bears. They're. They're a joke. The uber flooz comes out of the bye week. I don't even know what they did during the bye week. There feels like it was no game plan. Caleb was bad. I. I'll. I'll save for my positive spins for the end that you guys will think I'm crazy, but that we're. I'm a loser. And that was loser football. And Eber Fluss should be ashamed of himself and Shane Waldron should be ashamed of himself. And it's like that's a game that was as ugly as ugly could be. The defense kept you in that game. They. They fucking kept on holding the. The commanders to field goals and. And you, you somehow have a chance to win it and then you just blow it because the guys waving to the crowd and talking shit instead of doing his job. That's a joke. That's a. That's a Eberflu sync. That's a top down thing. Like that's not. I know Tyreek Stevenson fucked up and he actually apologized on Twitter after. But like that's a coaching thing. I. Because he's a good player. That's a coaching thing. And I, I'm sick of him. I'm sick of losing games that you should be able to win. And this was a game that we probably shouldn't even be able to win, but we somehow got in the spot where we could win it and then it was just that. So I'm a loser. I'm happy for you though. You got the atomic bomb.
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Hank
Thank you. Before we started taping, we started discussing a little bit. Then we realized, let's not say any of this before we start getting behind a microphone. I told Big Cat I felt bad for him because it's a tough way to lose a game. And then he was like, don't say you feel bad for me. You don't feel bad for me. He's right. I don't think I actually do feel bad for you.
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PFT Commenter
No. Something you just said.
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Hank
But yeah, but I can also acknowledge that that's a very, very tough way to lose a football game.
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PFT Commenter
No, it's like when like a co workers like grandparent dies, you're like, I'm sorry for your loss. Like I don't know, I don't. I never like, yeah, I, I am sorry for your loss, but I've never met them and I, you know, you just saying it, I understand.
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Hank
I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you're going through it.
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PFT Commenter
It's. It is what it is. It's just like I, I'm numb to it. It was in like this. There's a lot of season left. But that also is going to. I, I'm convinced that's going to be the game that's going to. I'm going to look back and be like, oh, they missed the playoffs because of this. And it's just, it sucks. It fucking sucks.
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Hank
And tattoo and a tattoo which.
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PFT Commenter
That, that's just like a cherry on top. And I was saying before, it's like I was gonna maybe just get my like kids initials or something, but then, then I'm like, oh, yeah, Why'd you get that? Oh, because of a Hail Mary. I'm not. Because Tyreek Stevenson's a fucking idiot.
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Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So I don't know what I'm gonna get.
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Eddie
How rattled were you, Peter? How distraught were you before the Hail Mary? Because, you know, you guys just went through the whole recap. The Bears were about to win that game, like somehow as good as the Commanders played and somehow as good as Jane Daniels played. You guys had 12 points and bears defense is good.
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PFT Commenter
And we have a shitload of starters out too.
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Hank
I said that after the second field goal. I was like, this is actually not good. Like our offense has been great, but it's not good that we have six points.
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PFT Commenter
I don't know. Great.
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Eddie
12 points is not great offense.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's not great offense.
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Hank
I thought that our offense is moving the ball really, really well. We had a drop touchdown and we had two illegal man down field penalties that backed us up off, which should have been like short red zone opportunities. It was, it wasn't really the offense in terms of like getting the ball out and getting guys open and all that. It was, it was making stupid penalty mistakes like we have in the past and just shooting ourselves in the foot.
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PFT Commenter
What are you gonna say, Max?
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Big Cat
Don't say great.
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PFT Commenter
Because I mean like a penalty is not great.
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Hank
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
That's part of offense and penalties are part of offense.
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Hank
I thought that. I mean, if you look how I don't have the stats in front of me, but if you see how many yards we had in the first half, I think that we had great offense in the first half. I want to say we had like but you score touchdowns with 250 yards of offense and 12 points.
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PFT Commenter
Great offense, touchdowns.
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Hank
It was not good. Like the red zone was a. Was a.
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Eddie
Actually my question was, how distraught were you before the Hail Mary?
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Hank
I was pretty distraught because it was a game that you should win. Based on how we played and the fact that we just let him hang around and let him hang around until the very end, honestly, like it was. I was very, very upset at that point because when the Bears had the ball with two minutes left, I was like, here's what's going to happen. They're going to score a touchdown and we're going to have 25 seconds left on the clock. And then you get the ball with 25 seconds. Too much time for Jane Daniels. I didn't think he could do it. I thought that was impossible.
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PFT Commenter
I don't know. I'm a loser. I mean, the Bears defense played great. They played great because they had no help. The Bears offense did nothing. Never sustained a drive.
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Eddie
And who's the commander's offense greater than the Bears Defense was great.
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Hank
I think so.
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PFT Commenter
I don't.
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Eddie
They both played greater.
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PFT Commenter
I mean, they didn't. They didn't score touchdowns.
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Eddie
Who played greater?
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PFT Commenter
I. The Bears defense kept him in this game. They. They did not. The Bears offense did not do shit for three quarters. Not a single thing where they didn't get first downs. They were giving bad field position. They were just doing everything bad outside of turning the ball over. And the Bears defense just kept on answering the bell and making sure that they kept it a one score game for a long time. A two score or, you know, it was two score game for a little bit. But like that, that game, if the Bears defense doesn't play the way they do it, it would have been a blowout because the Bears offense just didn't do shit for literally three quarters.
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Hank
They kept them out of the end zone. Yeah, they did.
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PFT Commenter
That's a very good. That's great defense to keep him out of the end zone.
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Hank
Yeah. Great defense and great offense at the same time.
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Big Cat
I refuse to say great offense. 12 points is not great offense.
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Hank
I know. Listen, I, I agree. Like you need to score touchdowns and inside the red zone, that was very, very bad. Our offense was very bad inside the red zone. I'll say that we were great in between the twenties.
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Big Cat
I'm okay, I'm okay with you. I'm okay with you saying that we're.
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Hank
Like all time great in between the 20s now and then you get in the 20 and you become all time Bad.
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PFT Commenter
But that's great defense.
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Hank
That's when the. Yeah. Defense became great. It was just great football. It's funny that we keep saying great because it was not great football.
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PFT Commenter
No, it was bad football.
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Hank
Yeah, it was a bad game. It was a very boring game until the last, like, ten minutes of it.
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PFT Commenter
I. So here's the crazy part. This is for Bears fans only. I. Listen, Caleb was bad for three quarters. Dog shit. The offense was so, so bad. I don't know what. Again, I don't know what the bye week was for when you didn't even have, like. It felt like there was no flow. It felt like there was no, like, hey, here's a mismatch. Cole Comet wasn't. They. They didn't target Cole Comet ever. The offensive line is a disaster. I understand that. Everyone always uses that as an easy excuse. It is obviously a problem, and we had more injuries on it, but it is what it is. Like, we know the offensive line sucks. It's not like you went into this game being like, oh, our offensive line is going to all of a sudden be good. Caleb, what he did in the fourth quarter is why I'm not. I'm not selling any of my stock in him. I know people will be like, he sucks. He's a bum. He's a bust. I got about a billion tweets of that. I don't care what he was doing in the fourth quarter. That throw to DJ Moore hanging in there where he's got no time getting killed. Yeah, I'm not. And then he threw that. That, like, sidearm, underhand one. I'm not going to change my opinion on Caleb Williams. I did change my opinion. Well, I didn't change my opinion. I just reaffirmed my opinion that this coaching staff is a joke and we need to get rid of him as soon as possible. Because it's like they're. They're. They're a joke. They're a joke. Like, that's a bye week. You come out of a bye week looking like that. I don't know what the fuck that was. So. And the Doug Kramer handoff is just an all time. All time. What?
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Eddie
Taken other handoffs.
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PFT Commenter
No, he's been. So this all goes to week three against Indianapolis. Week three against Indianapolis. We had the. We had the set of a series on first and goal where Shane Waldron called just terrible. He called, like, a wildcat play. He called an option play to the short side. He just did terrible job play calling. And the offense went and was like, dude, you gotta you gotta fix this next couple weeks. Every time we got on goal line it was the same thing. Just run the ball with Roshan up the middle. Doug Kramer would come in as a full back. So he was like, hey, here's my new wrinkle. I'm going to hand the ball off to Doug Kramer. And it's like, it's. I actually feel bad for Doug Kramer because like dude, you're. You're not a running back. You shouldn't be putting that spot again. That's a play where if you're like trying. If you're, if you're up by. And then now we're in fantasy land. If you're up by three touchdowns against the packers, you're like, haha, Doug Kramer, it's the fridge. But it's just, it was so stupid and I just. This team is just, it's. They constantly lose games like this and it's just a joke of a staff and the bye week just. But I'm not, I'm a little bit more. I'm not as upset as I was right in the moment after. The defense will keep us in pretty much every game. You saw it today. The defense is going to keep us in every game. Caleb was really bad for three full quarters and if he plays even like B minus football, I think we win this game before we even get to the Hail Mary. He didn't. He played D minus, F plus and then in the fourth he played like A minus football and he was great and it was too little, too late. And Tyreek Stevenson. So yeah, I'm a loser.
- [29:13]
Hank
The big question I had about the commanders is their defense because their defense has sucked. Like when I say sucked, I mean like bottom two, bottom three in the league at times today. The defense did play great first half. Great defense by the commanders. I thought that whatever Dan Quinn's doing, he's figured something out. They don't have, they don't have the guys, they don't have the talent on defense, but they're playing really, really hard. The scheme is adjusted because Dan knows what kind of people he has in the secondary and he knows what they're good at, what they're not good at. They're not good at having Emmanuel Forbes on the field and they're not good at a lot of other stuff initially. And now somehow they've managed to turn around and become a pretty decent defense. So I hope that part of it keeps up.
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PFT Commenter
Well, yeah, I mean in your, your. You said, I think in the middle of the game you're like, where's this pass rush coming from? And I was like, it's the Bears offensive line cannot block. I mean, we, we had a couple more injuries. It's just, it's a, it's a mass unit and it's just, it's, it's ugly. It's ugly right now watching their offensive line try to block and. Yeah, I don't know. I'm a loser. I don't know what else to say. I'm a loser.
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Hank
Tori Taylor was awesome.
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PFT Commenter
Tori Taylor is awesome.
- [30:16]
Hank
He should get Pepsi Rookie of the week.
- [30:18]
PFT Commenter
There's really good players on the Bears team and they just can't. Like this was a game that was so ugly and they somehow found a way to persevere and then that happens. So inexcusable because that was going to be like an all time. How the fuck did they win that game? Playing as bad as they did offensively and proving my point of like, hey, this off, this defense is going to keep is going to basically allow Caleb Williams to have games where he looks like a rookie for three quarters. But then that happens and then it's all for lost. So I don't know.
- [30:50]
Hank
I mean it was an insane into the game and when we had Jaden on the podcast back in. I think that was about a year ago. Memes, what did you ask him?
- [30:58]
Eddie
Yes, I'm. How far he can throw.
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Max
How far he could throw.
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Hank
And what do you say?
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Max
You said about 70.
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Hank
That's awesome. That's so good. And I've watched that play probably like I'm going to say conservatively 60 times. And I've watched every iteration that play from every fan angle, from every TV angle. I watched the, the Spanish version of it where they had it on Telemundo. The announcers doing that call. I saw. I even watched the dots. That's. That's how sick that play was is. I watched the dot thing that everybody posts about. They act like it's like super interesting.
- [31:29]
Eddie
They show the pre, like the before snap dot.
- [31:32]
Hank
Oh yeah, they have it like at the snap.
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Eddie
They don't have before when he's like waving in the crowd.
- [31:36]
Hank
I don't know if they had. There was no hand on the dot that was waving. But dot talk, the dot, even the dots were great on that play. I'm going to watch that play probably 100 times tomorrow and for the rest of my life.
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Eddie
It was shocking.
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Hank
I've never like, I've literally never experienced joy like that. Watching a football game. Isn't that sad?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
But it's kind of awesome, but I'm happy for you. Thank you, Hank.
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PFT Commenter
Do you guys have any other questions?
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Hank
Max has a question. You can tell.
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Big Cat
Well, no, I had no questions. I was just watching Big Cat during that.
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PFT Commenter
I was. I mean, I'm a loser. I don't know what else to say. I'm happy for pft. I just didn't come at my expense. But, like, it is what it is. Like, we're, like, we're. The Bears are a loser organization. Like, I think Caleb Williams can change that, but this is another reminder of, like. And I just. I can't get over the coaching staff and their plan out of a bye week. A bye week. Like, you got to look better than that out of a fucking bye week. And it's just. It's just insanely frustrating. Insanely, insanely frustrating because, like, those games, the games where you don't play good enough to win, but then you find a way to win, that's when, like, those are the games that. You gotta have a couple of those if you want to go to the playoffs. And, like, that they had it. And then Tyreek Stevenson decided to fucking talk shit to the crowd and the.
- [32:53]
Eddie
Momentum of, like, winning a game. You should have lost.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, right.
- [32:56]
Hank
Versus, Right.
- [32:57]
PFT Commenter
It would have been an all time. How did we win this game? Holy. This defense. Like, we're ready to roll.
- [33:02]
Eddie
Let's go face the NFC North.
- [33:03]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, right. And it's just like, okay, now next week against the Cardinals, who are looking very good. That's a must win game, knowing what you have in the schedule. And it's just. You just can't. You can't have that. You just can't do that.
- [33:16]
Eddie
I thought there was a chance, because you did go upstairs for a while, that you might have just done the Michael Scott and just, like, walked to the train tracks and tried to get on a train for a minute.
- [33:26]
PFT Commenter
I was thinking about just going home.
- [33:28]
Eddie
Yeah. Yeah, it was. It was an extended. An extended.
- [33:32]
PFT Commenter
Well, I was doing. I was prepping for the show. But, yeah, I was. I definitely. I definitely was like, what if I just go home? Like, what. What would change if I just go home? We just don't do a pod.
- [33:42]
Hank
There'd be a lot of very angry people out there.
- [33:44]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. No, I'm here. I'm here facing the music. It sucks. It just sucks. Tyreek Stevenson, what the fuck are you doing? Matt Eberfus, what are you doing? Shane Waldron, what are you doing?
- [33:55]
Hank
It's very strange because I'm. I'm so so happy and I understand why Big Cat's not. And it's just. It's a weird. It's a weird vibe.
- [34:06]
PFT Commenter
I mean look, you should be happy. That was. That was an incredible all time win. I'm a little upset at the our offense was great comment. But that's fine.
- [34:16]
Hank
We moved the ball in a great.
- [34:18]
PFT Commenter
Didn't score touchdowns.
- [34:19]
Hank
Which I said. I said that the red zone offense was very, very bad. Atrocious. Worse than atrocious.
- [34:25]
PFT Commenter
I can admit. Caleb Williams sucked for three quarters. Our red zone and he played great.
- [34:29]
Hank
Was disgustingly bad today. Disgustingly bad. I never want to see it again. But I do think that the offense played really really well. I thought that in the first half they moved the ball so well. It just sucks that we didn't score.
- [34:41]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [34:41]
Hank
Yeah.
- [34:42]
PFT Commenter
The Caleb Williams had two game winning drives. I guess that's the only positive I'd have. And none of. And neither of them counted for game winning drives. It's stupid. That was like literally something I said to myself like oh yeah, he had two game winning drive. No he didn't. He actually had none because we didn't win. And also he didn't. We handed the ball off to Doug Kramer.
- [35:04]
Eddie
That sounds like a guy who's like 50.
- [35:07]
PFT Commenter
He would have been a legend. He was a legend when he was blocking for Roshan the last couple of weeks. Everyone loved it.
- [35:14]
Hank
Isn't he the guy that's from Chicago too? Yeah, yeah.
- [35:16]
PFT Commenter
He's Hinsdale. It's just. It's fucking the whole thing.
- [35:20]
Eddie
But is he the Yale guy?
- [35:22]
PFT Commenter
No, no, I don't think Doug Kramer went to Yale.
- [35:25]
Eddie
Different guy.
- [35:26]
Hank
I don't think so.
- [35:28]
PFT Commenter
I'm pretty sure how much percentage Kramer went to Illinois.
- [35:30]
Hank
That's Waldron's fault, right?
- [35:32]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [35:32]
Hank
Is that. How much. What percentage do you blame Eber fluss for?
- [35:35]
PFT Commenter
I blame Eber flu a lot more for the Tyree Stevenson than I do the Doug Kramer. Waldron's the Doug Kramer. He's calling the plays. He's the one who installed that in the bye week and was like watch this. It was him up.
- [35:48]
Hank
It was a genuinely insane play call to make in that situation.
- [35:51]
PFT Commenter
It's third down. I mean it's third down. You get two. Two shots to run the ball up the. Up the gut for a touchdown. Why? Why Hank?
- [36:00]
Hank
Did you see Dan Quinn do the double fist pump? You get. I. I get it now.
- [36:04]
Eddie
It's perfectly normal.
- [36:05]
Hank
I get it now. In a moment of just pure ecstasy, the double fist pump it occurs. It's like, the. The going into fetal position happens when you're afraid naturally. The opposite of that is the double fist bump. You. You. When you're so pumped, that's the only thing you can do, is two pumps.
- [36:21]
PFT Commenter
The last two things I had one is they had a sideline view of Caleb watching it happen. I don't know if you guys caught it, but, like, the funniest part, not funny, but Keenan Allen was just smiling because he's. He's a charger. And he was just like, dude, this happens to me every time. Like, this is the Chargers shit right here. And the other thing is. And again, I know that people are going to call me crazy and stupid, but it's for Bears fans only. I'm not changing anything. I think about Caleb Williams. He had a really bad first three quarters and a really good fourth quarter, and you win games in the fourth quarter, and he did enough in the fourth quarter to win that game. And then the defense, which did keep him in the game, had lapse in Tyreek Stevenson. That just fucking sucks. So. Yeah. Anything else? I'm also just mad that Memes got to smile on my face because Memes, we're going to get to the Jets. He is. He. He was. His season is over. His team is a disaster. But Memes, for everyone who knows, for people who want to know how this works, Memes literally just got like, his quota for, like, views and clips and everything for the year based on that game. He's like a cop at the end of a month, just sitting there getting people on speeding tickets. He literally can just be like, see these numbers? Boom. And like, half of them are from the Hail Mary. And he's like, where's my raise?
- [37:44]
Hank
I think it's interesting that Memes doesn't tag us in. In.
- [37:48]
PFT Commenter
No. Because it wouldn't get. It wouldn't get the same amount of interaction.
- [37:51]
Hank
Yeah. But I. I know that I've been tagged by memes when. When I'm at my lowest points after a bad loss. He'll tag the fuck out of Find him. But it's. It's.
- [37:59]
Max
I did.
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PFT Commenter
I did it.
- [38:00]
Max
I liked it last month, and they.
- [38:02]
PFT Commenter
I did this with Hank last summer.
- [38:04]
Max
Hank. And everything was positive.
- [38:06]
Hank
Yeah.
- [38:06]
Max
So show me yours.
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PFT Commenter
They love this.
- [38:08]
Hank
They shout, your failures. They whisper your accomplishments. Memes.
- [38:11]
PFT Commenter
I love this meme.
- [38:12]
Max
Sucked off. What do you mean?
- [38:14]
PFT Commenter
But that's. That was who.
- [38:16]
Max
By everybody online. And then you come in, you're like, I feel bad for you guys. Like, you don't have my.
- [38:20]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that was don't do that. Don't do that. You are getting sucked off.
- [38:25]
Max
You.
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PFT Commenter
You are.
- [38:26]
Hank
I might.
- [38:26]
PFT Commenter
You've been getting sucked off.
- [38:27]
Eddie
I've been.
- [38:28]
PFT Commenter
I've been getting buried. Memes. Getting buried.
- [38:30]
Hank
Yeah, it was. It was a great, great afternoon for me, for sure.
- [38:33]
PFT Commenter
Million. But you don't have to say you feel bad for anyone.
- [38:36]
Hank
I retracted that because that's a. I do acknowledge it's a shitty way to feel bad. It's a bad way to lose a football, if I may.
- [38:42]
Eddie
Pft. I know you're not winning. Like, you're. This is the greatest accomplishment of your life. It's like a week six regular season game win.
- [38:49]
Hank
Yep. It's not week six if you're.
- [38:51]
Eddie
If you're a real. You know, if you're going to have that winning mentality and you're going to actually, like, make, you know, progress in the playoffs. Yeah, you should be mad after as. You should be, like, happy with the win, but you should not be like, we played great and we had a great offense. Like, you guys lost that game. You guys lost the game where the Bears played like dog shit.
- [39:11]
Hank
I'll be coachable. And again, lost. I need to learn.
- [39:14]
Eddie
You got lucky. But, like, for you to be like, oh, it's great. Best day of my life. Like, you gotta. You gotta think about the. Some of the. Some of the things you gotta fix.
- [39:21]
Hank
I know. I definitely do. And like I said after the Bengals game, I'm working on building a personal winning culture for myself. There's a lot I don't know about winning. I don't know how to handle it. I can't act like I've been there before. I've never been there before. So thank. To have Hank is like my shaman. Guiding me through this trip on how to. How to deal with success is very helpful.
- [39:38]
PFT Commenter
What were you gonna say, Max?
- [39:40]
Big Cat
Do we remember a conversation that we had in the past with a. A fan of a shitty organization saying that they feel bad for the.
- [39:48]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. No. PFT did a Billy to me.
- [39:50]
Hank
I. I said he.
- [39:52]
PFT Commenter
Billy. No, I said, it's Billy.
- [39:54]
Hank
I said, it's a bad way to lose a football game. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. Billy.
- [39:58]
PFT Commenter
You.
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Hank
You did say no.
- [39:59]
PFT Commenter
No.
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Memes
Billy would.
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PFT Commenter
How many times feel bad for you.
- [40:01]
Hank
But am I not allowed to actually see that my friend Big Cat is just going through the worst ever?
- [40:07]
PFT Commenter
No, I don't.
- [40:08]
Eddie
But it's at your expense.
- [40:10]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you should. I know.
- [40:11]
Eddie
Your fault.
- [40:11]
Hank
That's what makes you so weird.
- [40:12]
PFT Commenter
I don't need you to say you feel bad for me. I feel bad for me. Enough.
- [40:15]
Hank
Okay.
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PFT Commenter
More than enough.
- [40:17]
Hank
Okay. I'm just acknowledging that it's a bad way to lose a football.
- [40:19]
PFT Commenter
But it does hurt when you're like, I feel bad for you. That's a hurt. That's hurtful. Okay.
- [40:25]
Eddie
You should be saying, I feel bad for us that we almost lost you.
- [40:28]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Okay. All right, Memes.
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PFT Commenter
What are you guys. Don't you.
- [40:35]
Hank
Don't call me the. Don't you.
- [40:37]
PFT Commenter
For a minute is just.
- [40:39]
Hank
No, I. Honestly, I wasn't trying to say it in that way. I was saying that it's just a shitty thing. It's a shitty thing.
- [40:45]
PFT Commenter
You don't have to say anything. Our teams.
- [40:47]
Eddie
But you don't think it's a shitty thing. Yeah, it's.
- [40:49]
PFT Commenter
Our teams played each other. That's what happened.
- [40:51]
Hank
No, I'm happy that it happened, but I'm saying, like, it's a shitty way.
- [40:54]
PFT Commenter
To lose a football, but I don't need you, all right? Because we played each other. Like, you take it back. There's only could be one winner.
- [41:00]
Hank
No, I absolutely would not take it back. After. When the Hail Mary landed, I got up. I, like, freaked out for a second. Then I looked around, just trying to find somebody that was also a Commander's fan. And then I realized I'm in Chicago.
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Eddie
I think Eddie was crying.
- [41:12]
Hank
And then.
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PFT Commenter
No, Eddie. We all just. We ran. All of us ran. Eddie was gone. Chief was gone. White Sox. Dave, I think, got out of there so fast because he knows what he did by saying, I'll never apologize for a win. With 23 seconds left, me, Memes, and.
- [41:26]
Eddie
Max were popping confetti.
- [41:28]
Hank
I turned around, I was, like, running around like Jimmy V. Looking for somebody to hug, and nobody would hug me. And then I look back, and Hank, Memes, and Max were all had the same expression, just, like, their mouth open, just, like, staring at me. And I was just like, hey, guys, this is good. And then my mom called, and she was like, I think I'm gonna have a stroke. That was amazing. I was like, cool, mom. Don't have a stroke.
- [41:46]
Big Cat
I have another. I have another thing that I would like. You know that that's, like, a lucky play, right?
- [41:51]
Hank
Oh, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
100%.
- [41:52]
Big Cat
Okay.
- [41:53]
PFT Commenter
And the pass was short. In. The pass was short.
- [41:56]
Big Cat
That's just a lucky play. Like, any quarterback can make that throw.
- [41:59]
Hank
Well, Jaden made it.
- [42:00]
PFT Commenter
I know he also, like, don't. But it's.
- [42:02]
Big Cat
But it's not. It's just a lucky Play.
- [42:04]
Hank
That's what. I'm good. He's my. It was my A bomb.
- [42:06]
PFT Commenter
Short of the. It was short of the end zone.
- [42:08]
Hank
Everything about the guy. I don't know what it is. Everything about him. I love him.
- [42:12]
PFT Commenter
That play was way less about Jaden Daniels and more. Way more about the Bears incompetency as an organization.
- [42:17]
Eddie
Not to mention the holds.
- [42:19]
PFT Commenter
The holds do not matter, Hank. It was Tyreek Stevenson being a fucking idiot. All time, all time. Stupid, stupid play.
- [42:27]
Hank
I went from being very upset with the team to just being like, this is. This is heroin.
- [42:32]
PFT Commenter
No, you deserve it. I mean, it was. It was a great moment for you. All right, should we go to. Should we go to the rest of the games? Did we get enough blood?
- [42:40]
Hank
Don't let memes divide us.
- [42:41]
PFT Commenter
I'm not. I. I have not said I wasn't. There's. The only thing I disagreed with that you've said so far was that you had great offense. That was the only thing that. That doesn't really check out when the Bears were able to hold you out of the end zone until a Hail Mary. But everything else, you guys. You guys, like, deserve to win that game. The Bears did not deserve to win that game. They fucking sucked for the majority of that game. The vast majority. That would have been a lucky win. The other way, if the Bears had done it, it would have been like, how the did they win that game? Because they were a joke again, off a bye week. What did they do during the bye week? Like, Andy Reid gets off a bye week and he just kills people. That's what happens. Matt Eberfluss gets off a bye week and they run dog plays for three quarters, which I guess Matty Flu is a defensive coordinator or, you know, he's in charge of defense, so kudos to him, you know, great job, dude. If he wants to be defensive coordinator next year when Ben Johnson's our head coach, I'll be fine with that. He can keep his parking spot. And then he had like, tone deaf things after the game where he was just like, you know, there's a lot of positives to take from this. Shut the fuck up, dude. There's no positives. You, you, you. You lost in the most embarrassing fashion possible. Just go up there, take your fucking medicine, and realize that yet again, you lose a game that you should win because you're just not prepared as a football team.
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Eddie
Guess the line. Cardinals.
- [44:08]
PFT Commenter
I mean, the Cardinals are good.
- [44:10]
Eddie
Whose lines is.
- [44:10]
PFT Commenter
Anyway, they're. They're not top of the NFC west anymore.
- [44:13]
Hank
Where's the game.
- [44:15]
PFT Commenter
It's in Arizona. Whose lines anyway? Brought to you by DraftKings Cardinals minus one. I'm gonna say cardinals minus three.
- [44:23]
Eddie
PFT keeps winning. Cardinals minus one.
- [44:25]
PFT Commenter
Okay. All right. Let's get to the rest of the games where we can have some fun because we do have fun to talk about. It was a great witching hour. Browns 29, Ravens 24. Jameis Winston is 1 0. As a Brown starter, Jameis Winston is the best. Jameis Winston broke the 20 point mark for the Browns. Jameis Winston had the last two offensive plays for the Browns was the full Jameis Winston experience where he tried to throw an interception to Kyle Hamilton. And then the next play was like, fuck it. 38 yard bomb to Cedric Tillman. Touchdown game.
- [45:04]
Hank
Yeah, that was an easy pick that Hamilton had. He bobbled it like three or four times. Yeah, he's playing.
- [45:09]
PFT Commenter
Keep it. Keepy up bluey game.
- [45:11]
Hank
James Guy, he's got a little short memory. He gets back there and he's like, fuck it, I'm going to gun it. And he, man, he threw the ball all around today. I think there were four guys. Yeah, four guys with 60 plus yards on the Browns.
- [45:22]
PFT Commenter
He was slinging it.
- [45:23]
Hank
He was slinging it. Tillman. Tillman is a player that's on the Browns that everybody just completely forgot about. Yes, they had Cooper that. But yeah, Jameis was awesome. From the second he stepped foot inside that stadium until the second he left. He just delivered. He delivered everything that you want from Jamis. He had not one, but two awesome banger pregame speeches. He had obviously what he did in the game, which just throw the fuck out of the ball and be like, I'm going to find N'Joku down there and I'm going to throw it as hard as I can at his hands. And then after the game, he name checked Eminem and just quoted Eminem in his post game interview. He said, let's see. He said, like we got. There's a white boy from Detroit that I really admire named Eminem. He said, you only got one shot. Do not miss your chance to blow this opportunity once, last once in a lifetime. It was, it was just pure James.
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PFT Commenter
It was the best. It was the best. The Browns look like a competent football team and it's crazy because James DeSean Watson already had the worst contract in football probably in history. And Louisiana Purchase. Yeah, maybe Louisiana Purchase and Jameis Winston today made it somehow even worse because it just shows that the Browns are not a bad football team. They just had DeSean Watson as their quarterback. It's so crazy the last seven games that DeSean Watson didn't play. Six of those last seven games, the Browns had a 300 yard passer. And the seventh was week 18 last year when they started Jeff. Jeff Driscoll because they had already clinched the playoff. So every single time, they don't start Desean Watson, their offense works. And then when Desean Watson plays, they can't score 20 points and they look like dog shit. It just further proves how horrifically awful the deshaun Watson contract was. But James, you have James like the Browns. James can do anything.
- [47:14]
Hank
Everyone plays like a half step faster on both sides of the ball.
- [47:16]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
When they.
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PFT Commenter
The defense was fine.
- [47:18]
Hank
I can't tell if it's Jamis or if it's not destroyed. I think it's probably a combination of the two. Jamie's like the ultimate interim coach, but for quarterback, it's the perfect combo. He's the best interim quarterback. And then you step in for desean, and then everybody's just so much happier to be at work.
- [47:31]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [47:31]
Hank
They work a little bit harder.
- [47:33]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [47:33]
Hank
And it was also Halloween week for Miles Garrett, who showed up dressed like the Terminator.
- [47:36]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. White face.
- [47:37]
Hank
Yeah. Well, I. Robot face.
- [47:39]
PFT Commenter
Robot face. Yeah.
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Hank
He had a makeup artist come over for, like. How long did it take? Hour, Two hours. All just for that walk? Just for that walk into the stadium. Good for Cleveland. I'm happy for Cleveland fans. And this. This proves our point that Jimmy Haslam should be invest. Investigated for crimes, given that he not only gave that contract out, but then forced Kevin Stefanski to play DeSean Watson as long as he did. Jimmy Haslam should be investigated for point shaving.
- [48:02]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And now the Browns. Yeah. Their offense looked competent and they. James was throwing around. I know. Their offensive line got healthier. Nick Chubb is. He didn't have, like a monster game, but he feels like he's getting back into health. And, I mean, the Browns are probably too far deep in the hole to get out of it, but I would just love to see James go on a little bit of a run here. Like, I would love to see James who they got next. I think they actually play. I think they play our Chargers. Yeah, they do. So we're going to have to root. We're going to. We're going to root for whoever. We're going to root for Jameis. And the Chargers win in a Jameis ball out. Yeah. Session.
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Hank
Yeah. So this is from our very good friend James. One of one. You knew he'd Be all over. Oh, of course, he says. Since 2021, due to a torn ACL, broken back and ruptured perennial tendon, James Winston has had just nine healthy starts. Here's what he's done. Sean Payton, 5 and 2, 15 touchdowns, three picks with Dennis Allen, 1 and oh, two touchdowns, no picks with Stefanski, 1 and O. With three touchdowns and no interceptions. He's 7 and 2 with 20 total touchdowns and three interceptions.
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PFT Commenter
Let's play a game real quick because this is. James needs to be a starter in the league next year. Week one. Just looking at the teams going through it, Bill's obviously not Dolphins. I mean, if two gets another.
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Hank
Yeah, I could see him.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Patriots, Drake, May, Jets. They should absolutely sign Jameis. That would be an upgrade to quarterback. Steelers. Steelers.
- [49:37]
Hank
Yeah, Steelers.
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PFT Commenter
That would be. I mean, James would ball there.
- [49:40]
Hank
I mean, he's the exact opposite of every quarterback Steelers have had in recent memory.
- [49:44]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, Colts would be great. Yeah, Titans would be great. Raiders, like, there's a lot of team. Giants.
- [49:52]
Hank
Just add Jameis.
- [49:53]
PFT Commenter
Panthers, Saints. Go back to New Orleans. Yeah, like, just add Jamis James.
- [49:59]
Hank
It's that simple. Add James and have fun.
- [50:02]
PFT Commenter
As for the Ravens, it was a weird game because they like the Ravens offense. The Browns defense played well. I. The Ravens offense was still good. They just felt like they dropped so many balls. Rashad Bateman, even that. That ball where he was just standing there by himself and he actually pointed to the sun. He, like right after.
- [50:22]
Hank
I love that.
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PFT Commenter
And it was like one of those weird Lamar games where just a couple. Like, he played well, but like there was a couple plays, a couple third downs that just didn't whether it be a drop ball or the pass rush. So, like, I'm not worried about the Ravens, but it was one of those. It was just a very Ravens game. It so much so that the Ravens now, since 2022, that is their eighth loss when leading inside two minutes of the fourth quarter.
- [50:50]
Hank
Yeah, they're the worst team to close out a game.
- [50:52]
PFT Commenter
It was so Ravens like that. You. You walk away from that game, you're like, no, the Ravens aren't bad, but they just something like they have these weird games where it's just like, I don't know what happened. They. They. They move the ball and everything works. And their. Their secondary is bad. They're also very injured because they had Marlon Humphrey and Nate Wiggins out, but their secondary is bad. I mean, Eddie Jackson was getting abused by Cedric Tillman, but the Ravens, I'm not worried about. It was just a Very Ravens game.
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Hank
Yeah. And also they've got a kicker that's washed up.
- [51:20]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Justin.
- [51:20]
Hank
Tucker.
- [51:21]
PFT Commenter
Tucker. This game might go different if he doesn't. If he hits that kick right.
- [51:24]
Hank
You never know.
- [51:25]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [51:26]
Hank
Lamar can only beat the nfc. That's what people are saying.
- [51:28]
PFT Commenter
He is a little washed up. Who do the Ravens have next week? They're probably going to beat the. Out of someone, Right?
- [51:34]
Hank
Let's see. The Ravens have.
- [51:36]
PFT Commenter
The Ravens have to have the two weirdest losses.
- [51:39]
Hank
Broncos.
- [51:40]
PFT Commenter
Oh, that's actually going to be a tough game.
- [51:41]
Hank
Yeah.
- [51:41]
PFT Commenter
The Ravens, they've lost the Raiders and they've lost the Browns.
- [51:44]
Hank
All over the map. They lost the Chiefs. Barely. They lost the Raiders and they lost the Browns.
- [51:49]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And then they kill everyone else. So I'm not worried about him, but it was just a very Ravens loss. And I'm just happy for Jameis. I'm very happy for James.
- [51:57]
Hank
Yeah. I'm happy.
- [51:58]
PFT Commenter
Happy for Kevin. Stefan.
- [51:59]
Hank
I'm happy for football. Somebody said that. That James should host Family Feud, right? Is that what you guys were saying?
- [52:04]
PFT Commenter
That'd be great.
- [52:05]
Hank
James should host every game show.
- [52:06]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [52:07]
Hank
Fortune.
- [52:08]
PFT Commenter
He'd be a great. Yeah, he's the next Steve Harvey.
- [52:10]
Hank
Love is Blonde.
- [52:12]
PFT Commenter
He would be great.
- [52:13]
Hank
Call her Daddy. Yeah, she hosts every show.
- [52:16]
PFT Commenter
Is that a game show?
- [52:17]
Hank
It can be.
- [52:18]
PFT Commenter
Can be.
- [52:19]
Hank
You can win millions of dollars.
- [52:21]
PFT Commenter
The. So the rave or. Sorry. The Browns. I am happy for Kevin Stefanski as well, just because he gets to be like, hey, I'm not a bad coach. I was just forced to start. Deshaun Watson.
- [52:33]
Hank
Yeah. I mean, Kevin Stefanski, if he was unemployed, if he got fired, there would be like seven teams that would want to hire him.
- [52:39]
PFT Commenter
I take them.
- [52:39]
Hank
Most teams would try to fire their coach that they weren't planning on firing if it meant they could get Kevin Stefanski.
- [52:44]
PFT Commenter
Kevin Stefanski come to Chicago.
- [52:46]
Hank
And Vrabel. Good for Vrabes.
- [52:48]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [52:48]
Hank
Was he on the sidelines today?
- [52:49]
PFT Commenter
I don't know because I think he was on the.
- [52:51]
Hank
He was on the sidelines last week, too, and he told us in the off season that he wasn't going to be.
- [52:54]
PFT Commenter
I think for home games he is.
- [52:56]
Hank
No, he's. I thought he said that he wasn't going to go to the stadium. Oh, and then he was there last week.
- [53:00]
PFT Commenter
He can't stay away from football.
- [53:01]
Hank
And he was there this week. Jameson Braves.
- [53:04]
PFT Commenter
He can't stay away from football.
- [53:05]
Hank
Loving that.
- [53:06]
PFT Commenter
Okay, next game. Eagles 37, Bengals 17. Max, the Eagles are back. That was a kicking. That was a pumping. What do you want to say.
- [53:18]
Big Cat
There's not really much to say. It was. It was a domination on all fronts.
- [53:23]
PFT Commenter
Jalen Hurts played great.
- [53:24]
Big Cat
Jalen Hurts has been playing great the past couple games.
- [53:27]
PFT Commenter
He has. He ran for three touchdowns. He had that dime to devonte Smith. I think he only had like four incompletions in the. In the whole game. And it was all in the first quarter.
- [53:36]
Big Cat
The second. The second half, he was nine for nine, 150 yards and two and two touchdowns.
- [53:41]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [53:41]
Hank
Yeah, they look good.
- [53:43]
PFT Commenter
Really good.
- [53:44]
Hank
They look really good on offense.
- [53:45]
PFT Commenter
And I think the Vic Fangio defense has started to work. That's the big thing.
- [53:51]
Big Cat
It takes a little. I think it takes a little bit for the guys to get used to the new scheme, but I think that they're.
- [53:56]
PFT Commenter
I think they are.
- [53:57]
Big Cat
Cooper to Jean playing slot has changed. Has changed the defense. That awesome.
- [54:02]
PFT Commenter
That play that Sticky had on Jamar Chase on the fourth and one was huge. Incredible. That also was. The Bengals are in deep, deep water now. They couldn't run the ball today, which credit to the Eagles defense, but that was like, you're fourth and one and you're doing a swing pass to Jamar Chase. It's pretty good sign you're not feeling comfortable about your run game. The Bengals, I never, I'm never going to give up on Joe Burrow, but it does feel a little bit like Monty Python where he's like every game afterwards. He said today that 10 wins get you in. So they got to win seven out of nine. And that's doable. Yeah.
- [54:40]
Hank
You never know.
- [54:41]
PFT Commenter
But it's just going to keep going every week.
- [54:43]
Hank
Do Saturn. Saturn math.
- [54:44]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [54:45]
Hank
Bengals are going to be taunted, absolutely haunted by the in the hunt graphic later on this season.
- [54:49]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [54:50]
Hank
Because they probably will win enough games to be mathematically not eliminated. And they're going to just keep being like, well, maybe, maybe if I fuck around with the ESPN playoff machine for two hours at a time, I can figure out a combination that gets us there. But yeah, they've lost too many must wins. Yeah, they've lost like three must wins, which is. I think that's one, two. You can lose two must wins and still win. But yeah, I feel like they're.
- [55:11]
PFT Commenter
They're cooked at this point now. Max grade this statement. Is it the Bengals last two wins against the Browns and the Giants now it's like, ooh, that was fool's gold. Or is now the. Are the Eagles now swept up in the fool's gold? I thought because the Bengals are just as bad. Yes.
- [55:31]
Big Cat
I said that to somebody.
- [55:32]
PFT Commenter
I was like the Bengal to the Bengals thing.
- [55:34]
Big Cat
The Bengals are really bad.
- [55:36]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Because you just ran the gauntlet of just. You just beat all the Giants, the Browns with Deshaun and the Bengals.
- [55:44]
Hank
Who?
- [55:44]
PFT Commenter
The Bengals could only beat the Browns with Deshaun and the Giants.
- [55:47]
Big Cat
Yeah. And then we play the Jags next week.
- [55:48]
PFT Commenter
So it's like.
- [55:49]
Hank
Yeah. You never get an answer.
- [55:51]
Big Cat
I think.
- [55:52]
PFT Commenter
I think the Eagles are good.
- [55:53]
Big Cat
I think there are a lot of bad teams in the NFL right now.
- [55:56]
PFT Commenter
The AFC, I think I saw the stat. I think 37% of the AFC has two wins or less.
- [56:02]
Hank
Are you serious?
- [56:03]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [56:04]
Hank
That's actually crazy.
- [56:05]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Look, the. There's the entire AFC east, except the Bills has two wins. The Browns, the Jaguars, Titans, and the Raiders. So that's three, four. That's seven teams.
- [56:18]
Hank
What's crazy is this game was pretty close until, like, what, 10 minutes left in the third quarter.
- [56:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [56:24]
Hank
And then it was just switched and then it was all Eagles starting at.
- [56:27]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [56:27]
Hank
For most of the third quarter and all the fourth, I think it was a tie. It was a tie game in the third, and then we started thinking about what if they tied again and we make it three out of five ties between these two teams. And then the Eagles just said, no, we're just going to. We're going to just throw deep that. I mean, having devonte Smith back is so huge.
- [56:45]
PFT Commenter
He's. He's amazing. And Asia Brown.
- [56:47]
Big Cat
And then you just have Saquon, too, that can just. Like, he. He rushed for over 100 yards today. And if. And I feel like he didn't even do anything.
- [56:54]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [56:54]
Hank
He felt like a non. Factor.
- [56:56]
Big Cat
It was a. It was just a quiet, let me go get 22 carries, 108 yards. And it's like, oh, yeah, that's. That's just Saquon.
- [57:03]
PFT Commenter
And I do think it's very cute that you call him Quan. Yeah. I like when you yell in like, go, Quan, go. Yeah, it's cute.
- [57:12]
Hank
Yeah. He would probably want to get his boys more yards.
- [57:16]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [57:17]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [57:17]
Hank
Good guy.
- [57:18]
PFT Commenter
The. I do think the Eagles are good. I. I'm never going to give up on the Bengals, which is probably going to be a fatal flaw this year, just being like, the Bengals are going to be fine. The Bengals are going to be fine. Their defense was good against the Giants, and the Browns was not good today. Like, they couldn't. They couldn't get a pass rush. The. The Eagles offensive line bullied them, and you just kind of reverted back to. They're not their defense just doesn't like. If they're not playing Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson, they're going to struggle.
- [57:48]
Hank
What's just crazy, though, is they're what now? 1 and are they 1 and 4 or 0 and 4 at home?
- [57:53]
PFT Commenter
They're owing Ford home.
- [57:54]
Hank
Owen Ford home. Yeah, that's. That's generally the sign of a bad team.
- [57:57]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, they're. They're own four at home. And they got to win. They got to win. 7 out of 9. 7 out of 9.
- [58:04]
Hank
Yep.
- [58:04]
PFT Commenter
Joe did the math. 7 out of 9 and the Eagles are good. Max, it's okay to say the Eagles are good. I want you to get your hopes back up.
- [58:13]
Big Cat
I. I'm not. I'm not all the way. I'm not. I did. I think I started this off by saying I'm all the way back. I don't want to say I'm all the way back, though, because how can.
- [58:23]
Hank
You all the way back? What's a road?
- [58:25]
PFT Commenter
Why wouldn't you want to say that? If we.
- [58:29]
Big Cat
If we beat the shit out of the Commanders on Thursday Night Football in three weeks.
- [58:33]
PFT Commenter
When is that game?
- [58:34]
Hank
That's.
- [58:34]
Big Cat
I think it's Thanksgiving.
- [58:36]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Perm bet.
- [58:38]
Hank
It's a perm bet.
- [58:38]
PFT Commenter
You want to do a tattoo bet?
- [58:40]
Eddie
Perm.
- [58:41]
Hank
No perm. Perm bet.
- [58:42]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [58:43]
Hank
And I'll get it done immediately if we lose.
- [58:46]
Big Cat
Yeah, me too.
- [58:47]
Hank
Yeah, you can take your time. You can take as much time as I took.
- [58:51]
Big Cat
No, I'll do it.
- [58:53]
PFT Commenter
All right, well, feel good. Max, the Eagles are back.
- [58:55]
Big Cat
No, yeah, it's good. I'll be. I'll be sleeping. Sleeping well tonight.
- [58:58]
Hank
You guys get the Jaguars next week.
- [58:59]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [59:00]
Hank
So like you said, who cares if you win that game, right? And then you've got the Cowboys? That's gonna. That game's gonna mean something to you.
- [59:07]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [59:07]
Big Cat
Always Cowboys. Cowboys will always mean something. But it doesn't matter.
- [59:11]
PFT Commenter
Like it's two team race, the NFC East.
- [59:15]
Big Cat
That's not true. Yeah.
- [59:16]
PFT Commenter
What?
- [59:17]
Big Cat
Maybe it is. Maybe that's true.
- [59:18]
PFT Commenter
You think the Cowboys are.
- [59:20]
Big Cat
I don't know. Cowboys can go on a run.
- [59:22]
PFT Commenter
Okay. All right, next game, Falcons 31, Bucks 26. The Falcons, they tried to blow this game, but the Falcons now have a stranglehold on the NFC South. They're 40 against the NFC South. They're 20 against the Bucks. Kirk Cousins has eight touchdown passes against the Bucks. Todd Bowles, I don't know what you're doing because the Bucks going to this game is like. The Bucks don't have Godwin and Evans. It's going to be a struggle for them offensively. Baker. Baker will throw picks, but they moved the ball like Kate Otten, Bucky Irving. Baker was throwing the ball. They're the Bucks. Defense is what failed them today. The Falcons just carved him up. Kirk was on fire.
- [60:02]
Hank
That weren't the creamsicles.
- [60:03]
PFT Commenter
The cream.
- [60:03]
Hank
They stink in the cream schools even though they're objectively awesome. Kyle Pitts had a couple really nice plays. The touchdown that he had, though, that. That was very. So he. He let up at like the 10 yard line and glided in the end zone, hanging the ball out. He gets wrapped up from behind. I forget who was that Winfield that made the tackle. And then the ball gets knocked out as he crosses the plane. And they don't have a camera that's on the end zone. They don't have a wood. Bill Belichick says it's a billion dollar league and you can't put a camera. We have pylon cameras. I know they made a camera. They put a fucking camera in the pylon and we don't have an angle to see if that was a touchdown or not. That was ridiculous.
- [60:41]
PFT Commenter
It was ridiculous.
- [60:42]
Hank
And then my other favorite part of this game was. I. I don't think it was Kirk Cousins, but some people said that it was, but it wasn't him. Somebody on the Falcons yelled cunt.
- [60:53]
PFT Commenter
Oh.
- [60:54]
Hank
During a play. And I don't know who it was. Maybe it was somebody.
- [60:57]
PFT Commenter
Could have been Kirk.
- [60:58]
Hank
So Kirk was. I think he was mic'd up today. Oh, he might have been wearing the water.
- [61:01]
PFT Commenter
He did do the walk into our trap. Take over your trap pregame.
- [61:05]
Hank
I saw that.
- [61:06]
PFT Commenter
That one felt awkward.
- [61:07]
Hank
Yeah, that was. That was again. It's like when they put the chains on like he's a dog that they're dressing up when they put him on a plane. Kirk, say the line.
- [61:14]
PFT Commenter
Kirk, can you pull up the video? Max? It was. It was quite something. He was. He was getting the boys riled up, but he was. It was the pregame and he kept repeating it. Yeah. He's trying to get him to chant it. But guess. Hey, guess what? It worked in the fact that they won today.
- [61:29]
Hank
How do you think he had to have it explained to him. They be like, Kirk, It's. It's like a home. A trap is a home.
- [61:34]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [61:34]
Hank
Trap depot.
- [61:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And the way it started, Slow.
- [61:39]
Eddie
Trap depot would be sick.
- [61:40]
PFT Commenter
Trap depot would be great.
- [61:41]
Hank
Should we start a line?
- [61:42]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Here it is. This is Kirk Cousins pumping them up.
- [61:58]
Eddie
We fight. No Cap.
- [62:07]
PFT Commenter
It'S good job. Good effort. I mean, hey, listen, win's a win. Win.
- [62:10]
Hank
They won and he didn't mincy himself.
- [62:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [62:12]
Hank
So that's good.
- [62:13]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. The. By the way, I. I saw so the Bucks. I don't know why this just made me laugh. It's very stupid Internet. But the Bucks posted their final score and then Matt OCP Designs just replied. He was the top reply. And it just said, since becoming the head coach of The Bucks in 2022, Todd Bowles has a worse career than a Toyota RAV4. And it has just a list of the different awards, coach of the year awards. Todd Bowles had zero, RAV4 has zero Super bowl wins. The head coach, Todd Bowles had zero, RAV 4 has zero. J.D. power Reliability Award. Todd Bowles has zero, RAV4 has one. I high HS top safety pick. Todd Bowles has zero, Rav4 has one. And then could you take. Could. Could take you to a Super Bowl? Todd Bowles, no. RAV4. Yes. Yeah. So he's worse than RAV4 physically.
- [63:04]
Hank
It could take you there.
- [63:05]
PFT Commenter
I just, I liked. I. I don't know why. It just made me laugh. It's. It feels like bad times for. For Todd Bowles because again, your defense, your defensive head coach, and this is your. Your offense has both of your, like, you know, Mike Evans, a Hall of Famer, Chris Cobwin's incredible. They're both out. Baker has to basically be a magician if you score 26 points.
- [63:29]
Hank
And he kind of was a magician.
- [63:30]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he was. And it's just like that. How do you not win that game if you have a defensive coach? It's just no adjustments. It felt like they didn't. They didn't get any pressure on Kirk Cousins. He was throwing dimes down the field.
- [63:43]
Hank
You see that run he went on too. Hit a little like 13. Yeah.
- [63:46]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [63:46]
Hank
I think we can say Kirk Cousins officially healthy now.
- [63:49]
PFT Commenter
Officially.
- [63:49]
Hank
I think at the start of the season, Kirk Cousins was not healthy. I think he's played his way back to into as mobile as Kirk Cousins could possibly be.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. And then this also Atlanta, this is their sixth game decided by one possession. And that's kind of what the Falcons do. And they have a perfect quarterback for it because Kirk Cousins is 18 and 6 in one possession game since 2022. That's just what they do. This wasn't really a one possession game, though. They shouldn't have been. They let him back into it with the safety and then miss kick like it. They were up 314 or 17. And they just weren't able to close out, like, really close the door.
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Hank
It's just a sweep of the Bucks. And they are now 4. 0 against the AFC or NFC South.
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PFT Commenter
Correct.
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Hank
This is. Yeah. This is Atlanta's division.
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PFT Commenter
It's over. I mean, it's not over, but it's over.
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Hank
Well, because they took care of the hard part.
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PFT Commenter
Right. They had the Saints and the Panthers left.
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Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. And the. In the Bucks.
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Hank
Now, can we just be the first to report. Congratulations to the Atlanta Falcons on Atlanta Falcons, the NFC South.
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PFT Commenter
You've done it. You've won the NFC South. Congratulations. Good job by you guys. Kirk Cousins, he kind of proved like he's. He's better than people give him credit for because he went to Atlanta and he made them a playoff team and.
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Hank
They drafted a guy high in the first round.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
To possibly take his job.
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PFT Commenter
Take his job.
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Hank
That guy was trying to walk into his trap.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. And Kirk took over his trap.
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Hank
No, he said my trap.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Okay. Trap.
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Hank
Sweet trap.
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PFT Commenter
Next up, we got Packers 30, Jags 27. Jordan Love got hurt again. Malik Willis comes in. Malik Willis is just a good quarterback now.
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Hank
Yeah. So this now means that Malik Willis is 3 and O against that division. Right. He's got the AFC South. And hell yeah, he didn't play last week against the. Against the Texans there. I know this is. Might sound stupid, but I get the feeling like Matt LaFleur has more fun calling plays for bleak Willis because he has to do all the tricks.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
He has to get, like, really weird with it.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
And so he gets in there and he starts doing the, like, fake misdirective handoffs and then turning around and then throwing the ball back to where he just gave the fake from. He runs way cooler plays when Malik Willis was. Is still in the game than when Jordan Love comes in. But Malik Willis, out of nowhere, got.
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PFT Commenter
Fun to watch that the dime that he threw to Jaden Reed that basically won them the game was incredible.
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Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And he's. Yeah. He commanded the offense. The packers, their defense just takes the ball away. They have 19 takeaways so far this year. It felt like the game like the Jaguars were kind of in this game. And then the Trevor Lawrence fumble was a big change. And then the Jaguars got back into it. Like they were able to get back into it, tie the game. But the Packers. I don't know how long. Do we know how long Jordan Love is going to be out? I think it was a groin injury. They have the Lions next.
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Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
I Don't know which I. Malfoy might be able to get Malik Willis to beat the Lions. Yeah.
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Hank
I mean, if anybody can stop that Lions offense, it's Robert Salah's defense.
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PFT Commenter
It's just. I want to. Well, let me just say this about the Jags. I actually think Trevor Lawrence, obviously the fumble was bad. He didn't play bad today. And he also had like, everyone got hurt for the Jags. I think Chris Christian Kirk is out for the year.
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Hank
Brian Roberts is awesome.
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PFT Commenter
Brian. Yeah, he's awesome. But they had a couple other guys get hurt. Trevor Lawrence was making some good throws and the Jags were in this game. They're just. They kind of just jagged it at the end.
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Hank
Yeah, Trevor Lawrence is. He's so confusing to watch because he's. He can make really great throws.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
And he's a very, very good quarterback a lot of the time. And then he'll have a boneheaded fumble and you're like, well, how do I evaluate this guy? Because he's so good at finding guys like middle of the field passing. He can make like the deep throws. He's got a great arm. And he also just looks like a quarterback and then he just drops the ball sometimes and you're like, well, I can't tell if you're good or not.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
You might be very good at playing quarterback, but not very good at just holding onto a football.
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PFT Commenter
Right? Yeah. Because that fumble. Yeah. It was like on the five, which.
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Hank
Is a pretty big part.
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PFT Commenter
That was a very big part. And also shout out. I don't know what defensive lineman it was on the packers, but an all time box out on that fumble.
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Hank
Yeah, that was good.
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PFT Commenter
He just hip checked the fuck out of the guy. Yep.
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Hank
Booty ball.
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PFT Commenter
I'm going to say something right now that packers fans are not allowed to listen to. And you cannot clip Tyreek Stevenson going after the fans, not doing his job. Bears organization Chris Brooks, the running back for the packers, who went down with a minute left to run the clock out and kick the field goal instead of scoring a touchdown, giving the Jags a chance to possibly have some time left. Chris Brooks has never scored a touchdown in the NFL and he went down.
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Hank
It took his dream from him.
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PFT Commenter
And he said afterward, just don't score. That's the only thing going through in mind. It's always a pleasure to get the win and then do whatever. And first, it's always a pleasure to get the win first and then do whatever I can to help the team. That's the difference. Matt LaFleur coaches a team like that where a guy who's never scored a touchdown in the NFL, I think that's.
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Hank
Why they gave him the ball. It's like, this guy's never scored, so he's not going to score and ruin the game.
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PFT Commenter
But it's just. It's. That's just good coaching and good clock management and winning football. And that was what Chris Brooks did. I mean, the guy. Do you know how hard it must have been for him to, like, in the back of his head, he's never scored a touchdown in the NFL. Why, like, you got to see that. And it was a walk in and he goes down. He makes the correct move. Yeah. Because it would be hard to not have the instincts of, I want to score my first touchdown take over in that moment. Yeah.
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Hank
To just say no.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [69:20]
Hank
Deny yourself. This is also Brandon McManus revenge game, which is a touching story that I'm sure that a lot of people followed along with.
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PFT Commenter
We all wanted his revenge.
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Hank
Yeah. We all felt bad for Brandon McManus. It was. It was a bad game for the Jaguars. But maybe you. But I don't think it was as bad as you kind of wanted it to be. Deep down inside, if you're a Jags fan, you want. You want clean house.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
House needs to be cleaned up. And this was a bad loss. He did some stupid shit like he had a defensive delay of game on a field goal. The packers were kicking a field goal, and then they either simulated the snap count or they made weird movements, got a flag, called on them, and then gave him a first down during a field goal attempt. Like, yeah, that's the kind of thing that bad organizations do. And that was embarrassing, but I don't know if this was embarrassing enough to have the ownership, the Jaguars be like, okay, Doug has to go after this one.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
You need a good ass kicking.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. You can't be as they were in this game.
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Hank
Do you think that Sirianni is capable of giving the Jaguars a big enough ass kicking? Because if you're a Jags fan, you probably are a big Eagles fan. Right. Or does Sirianni see another coach, you know, a guy that's also coached the Eagles before and.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [70:28]
Hank
See what this league can do to you?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Do you think Sirianni takes it easy on Doug Peterson because he's like, respect.
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PFT Commenter
I think Sirianni would do. Would like almost. He would get Doug Peterson fired and then he would be like, doug Peterson, come. Come to our coaching staff because you got that Philly Magic. Yeah, he would definitely do that. Have him come be a consultant, like a Robert Salah.
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Big Cat
For sure. I'd welcome. Welcome to the team as well.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Josh Jacobs, also very good. He had a monster game. He's a weapon. It's just, it's maddening that the packers keep going to Malik Willis and winning games, but they do.
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Hank
It's crazy. And I've completely reversed course on Malik Willis now. I actually like watching.
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PFT Commenter
How can you not? Yeah, yeah.
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Hank
He's fun.
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PFT Commenter
He's. He's going to. He's going to probably get another shot somewhere.
- [71:17]
Hank
He's going to get a nice contract.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's going to get a shot. He might Matt Flynn, this thing.
- [71:21]
Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, let's take a break before we get to our next game with a couple ads.
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Hank
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PFT Commenter
I guess we'll do Cardinals, Dolphins first. Okay, we're gonna do Patriots, Jets.
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Hank
Hank might not come back.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, he might not. He might not come back. Cardinals, Dolphins. Cardinals might be good.
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Hank
Well, they, they were for a fleeting moment, in first place in the NFC West. Another tied for first place. Or is it 49ers?
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PFT Commenter
I think the 49ers are ahead of the. Oh, no. Because they beat the 49ers. Yeah. No, no, they're in first place. They're in first place.
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Hank
The NFC still in first place in the NFC West. They're 4 and 4. And they've unlocked Maserati Marv.
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PFT Commenter
They've unlocked Maserati marv. And Trey McBride is a beast because that was the two of them when Kyler Murray was targeting them today. 15 for 18, 235 yards in a TD. Yeah, like, they were awesome. And that was a game that it felt like the Cardinals were going to lose. And Kyler made the big plays to get them into field goal range at the end. And the Cardinals might be good. Like, I, I think they're still in a rebuilding phase because their defense not great and you know, they like. The one thing I was very impressed with Cardinals today is they didn't run the ball that great. And I always thought that if the Cardinals don't run the ball, they're, they're basically cooked. But Kyler made those, like running around. Kyler plays on the weekend. The call of duty's been release.
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Hank
Yeah, it's a great, great showing.
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PFT Commenter
He gets, he gets a night off. Give him. I hope that, I hope what's his name, Jonathan Gannon, said after the game, like, hey, you know what, Kyler, you deserve Monday off to play some Call of Duty.
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Hank
Yeah, give him, give him two days off. Send a replacer in.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
And have him just take reps at practice. The. The Kyler Murray stepping up when James Connor can't thing. I feel like James Connor is. He's still going to pop up. Up for maybe three more games this season where he has two touchdowns.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, definitely.
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Hank
He'll still have his good games, but he's not like a game changing running back.
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PFT Commenter
He had one today. He just didn't. Yeah, they just didn't run. It didn't feel like they had any pop on their running game.
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Hank
He also had a very, very funny two point conversion where he tried to jump from like the six yard line when he got the ball.
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PFT Commenter
Yes.
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Hank
And then came down at like the four. Not even close to it. But the, the Cardinals, man, first place. I think the Cardinals are good enough to win that division. I don't think it's a good division.
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PFT Commenter
They already beat the 49ers.
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Hank
They beat the 49ers and the offense can look good. Yeah, the Cardinals are still in it.
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PFT Commenter
As for the Dolphins, Tua coming back definitely made it look like the Dolphins were a competent football team again. They're back into their fun to watch because the last whatever has been four weeks of the Dolphins has been a chore to watch on TV and credit to Tua. He slit.
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Hank
He'd slid.
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PFT Commenter
He slid.
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Hank
He did not wear the guardian cap today, but he did do some crazy, crazy plays, I feel like. So McDaniel was like just absolutely hating his job for the last four weeks because he had to try to run, you know, boring vanilla ass plays. He had to try to run Skyler Thompson plays.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
With no matter what quarterback was in, he's like, I'm just going to call the Skyler plays for you. And then getting Tua back, he's like, I'm going to have Tua throw the ball behind his back. I'm going to have to throw an empty hand with his left hand forward as he does a shovel pass with his right hand.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
He was just so happy to get to do all the freaky weird shit.
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PFT Commenter
The way the game started, I had a, I had a theory that was. Maybe people weren't really listening or thought I was stupid because it is stupid theory. I was like, what if Tua got concussed into just being permanently in the zone. Yeah. Because that's how the game started. Yeah. He was doing crazy.
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Hank
Yeah. Giving yourself a medically induced minor concussion.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Woodpeckers walk around all the time with minor concussions. Industrious as.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's Facts. See. So I don't know if the Dolphins are going to be frisky, but I came away from this. Oh, Hank. Saying no. I think.
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Hank
I think they're back to being a fun two wins.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. But they're a fun one. But they didn't have their quarterback for a lot of games.
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Eddie
They blew this game.
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PFT Commenter
They did blow this game. But I. I was frisky. Okay. I think their offense is frisky. Back to frisky. Like two maybe. Actually, frisky is probably the wrong word. Their offense is just good again. I don't know what happened with their defense at the end of the game, but their offense is fun to watch.
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Hank
Yeah, they're. They're just a fun watch period. If it. If the Dolphins are on now with two.
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Eddie
No. Their offense is stacked. But I was just shocking to me that how bad they play without Tua.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, I agree with that.
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Eddie
Like the 49ers offensive stacks. You could put any QB in and.
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PFT Commenter
It'S Brock Purdy slander. I don't like that.
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Eddie
But the. The Dolphins is the complete opposite.
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PFT Commenter
I don't like that Brock Purdy slay Lance.
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Eddie
Jimmy G and Brock Purdy. How much of a difference? Jimmy G. Super.
- [78:14]
PFT Commenter
Brock Purdy's way better.
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Hank
Yeah, much better.
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Eddie
But they both went to the Super Bowl.
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PFT Commenter
Brock Purdy's.
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Eddie
That's my point.
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Hank
Jimmy Garoppolo, all he does is win football games.
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PFT Commenter
But Jimmy G is way better than Tyler Huntley and Tim Boyle.
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Eddie
True.
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PFT Commenter
Like they were. They were starting non starters.
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Hank
Let me ask you this, Hank. Do you think that McDaniel makes a play for Jimmy G? He would have been a great team.
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PFT Commenter
Where is Jimmy G?
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Hank
He's on the Rams.
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PFT Commenter
He's on the Rams?
- [78:43]
Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
He's probably. He's getting that slaying puss.
- [78:47]
Hank
Yeah. But you think he wouldn't crush Puss in Miami.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Well. La.
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Hank
Like here. Here's Jimmy G. Is he. He did not. Not enough puss for that man in San Fran. Goes to Vegas. Push City and then he goes to LA. Push Lily Hills 90210 then. Now he's going to go to South Puss in Miami.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. He's hitting them all.
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Hank
I think he's going to hit. He's going to have sex with every woman in America before he's out of the league.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I just. I think the Dolphins. I. Here's what I'll say. The Dolphins are going to play spoilers. They'll be the team that they. That is trying to go to the playoffs late in the season if Tua stays healthy. You don't think so a team.
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Eddie
Yeah. But they're supposed to be like a playoff team.
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Hank
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not. They're definitely.
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PFT Commenter
They're not.
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Hank
Not living up to expectations.
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PFT Commenter
And I, again, I came away from this being way more impressed with the Cardinals. I was more saying that. I guess it's because we saw what it was like without Tua that I was just so happy to have Tua back. Because having a Dolphins game on One of the TVs wasn't just a pain to, like, avert. Like I would when the Dolphins were playing the last few weeks, I would just avoid looking at that tv.
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Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Now I'm like, ooh, what's Tua doing?
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Hank
Yeah, they're fun to watch on offense. Yeah, they do crazy shit.
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PFT Commenter
And Kyler is very fun. Kyler's having a good year. And I, I'm. I'm buying on the Cardinals being the, like, Cardinals could. Could either get a playoff spot or they could. Yeah, they could win the nfc. And the NFC west is just a. I don't even know who's good.
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Hank
It's mid off.
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PFT Commenter
I mean, the Rams are all the way back. The Rams are one game out. It's crazy. All right, Hank, you walked out.
- [80:21]
Hank
They're not trading Cooper Cup.
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PFT Commenter
They're not trading Cooper Cup. Hank, you walked out when we were about to do this game. Patriots 25, Jets 22. Go ahead, Hank. Floor is yours.
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Eddie
I mean, it's sad. It was fun the last couple weeks being able to, you know, look at. What is it called? Tankathon. Yeah, tankathon.com where all the losers go and seeing our, Our, our. The New England Patriots at the top of the draft board. Number one pick, had no expectations. Thought we were going to get boat race. Thought it was going to be, you know, the Aaron Rodgers, devonte Adams, get right game, make a run for the playoff. They got a window. Drake May played great. Drake May only played like, if Drake May played the whole game, they would have won by 40. I think he played like three. Oh, wow.
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PFT Commenter
Three drives.
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Eddie
Oh, wow.
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PFT Commenter
40.
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Eddie
Scored a touchdown.
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Hank
What feet.
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Eddie
Unfortunately for the Jane, the Hail Mary happened. I was really looking forward to being able to be like, my quarterback actually scored today and he only played a few drives.
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Hank
I'm sorry that I took that from you, Hank.
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Eddie
It's all right.
- [81:20]
Hank
I'm sorry. I feel bad for you.
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Eddie
The concussion was kind of weird because it was like, I didn't. It didn't seem like he got hit that Hard.
- [81:29]
Hank
Yeah, he got hit kind of on the back of his head. It was a weird angle.
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Eddie
It was like a tap. And I don't know if that should make me more concerned or less concerned.
- [81:37]
Hank
Why would it make you less concerned?
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PFT Commenter
Concerned because it wasn't like from the.
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Eddie
From the visual test, it didn't seem bad at all.
- [81:43]
Hank
Maybe he's too honest.
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Eddie
And the Kyle Rudolph story, I don't know if you guys saw some Minnesota Vikings fan found the clip from where it's from the play. You would never notice that he got concussed that bad in a million years. Like he was just coming across the middle and. And he got hit. But that play happens in every game in the history of football.
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PFT Commenter
He's just finding out that concussions might be a problem.
- [82:03]
Eddie
No, but it was more like if he was that up from that play, then that after watching Drake may thing, I'm like, oh, it wasn't that bad. But then it made me think of what Kyle Rudolph said.
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Hank
Are you saying that sometimes maybe concussions are under reported?
- [82:17]
Eddie
Yeah. After that it's like there's a million today.
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PFT Commenter
Do you. I mean, it is. So what was the meme you shared with us?
- [82:26]
Eddie
Yeah, Boston sports throwback made the meme. It was Michael Scott and his old boss at Dunder Mifflin. And the old boss said, or as Michael Scott was, you know, young Michael Scott with the long hair, 2 and 6. I don't have my phone on me. Can you read them?
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PFT Commenter
Where's your phone?
- [82:43]
Hank
Shaking hands. And they're both.
- [82:44]
PFT Commenter
Where's your phone go?
- [82:46]
Eddie
Just living in the moment.
- [82:47]
PFT Commenter
You just had your phone for the whole first part of this moment.
- [82:50]
Eddie
Well, I was doing my boomer.
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PFT Commenter
All right, here it is. It's Michael Scott's bosses, the jets. The old bosses, the jets highest expectations in 25 years. Shaking Michael Scott, who's the Patriots lowest expectation in 25 years and 2 and 6 record. Both of them. That's brutal.
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Eddie
That also reports dysfunctional locker room. They don't know if they're going to stick with Mayo.
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PFT Commenter
It means you. You're a memes guy. Talk us through this. Memes.
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Eddie
I feel bad for memes. I'll say that.
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PFT Commenter
You can say that because you. It is crazy that you guys are like full on rebuild and the jets are full on. We should win the super bowl this year.
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Hank
All in.
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PFT Commenter
And you're both 2 and 6.
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Eddie
And Drake made even play.
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PFT Commenter
And Drake made it play.
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Max
He did play.
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PFT Commenter
Okay. He played.
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Hank
So memes I. First of all, I do want to hear your Analysis of this meme, but also I want to hear what you're going to do this week to make it all go away.
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Max
Nothing. The season's over.
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PFT Commenter
What?
- [83:51]
Max
It's over, actually.
- [83:53]
PFT Commenter
Over?
- [83:53]
Max
It's over, dude.
- [83:57]
Hank
Let me see.
- [83:58]
PFT Commenter
Well, I have a fix for you.
- [84:01]
Max
Hit me.
- [84:02]
PFT Commenter
Cut. Greg Zerline. Yeah.
- [84:05]
Max
They should have done that two weeks ago.
- [84:07]
PFT Commenter
It's insane. The guy can't kick, and you're losing games because he can't kick.
- [84:11]
Max
I mean, if he could kick, Rob Salah still has a job.
- [84:15]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [84:15]
Max
Against the Broncos. That's a win.
- [84:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. You probably have two more wins. You're probably. Instead of a 2 and 6 team, you're at 4 and 4, like, and you're fine. He can't kick, and you just let him not kick as a kicker continually.
- [84:31]
Max
And Aaron Rodgers didn't even play that bad.
- [84:34]
PFT Commenter
I mean, he's old.
- [84:35]
Max
He's. He's old as shit. There was a quote after the game from one of the Patriots players that said, he's just not the same. He was like, I chase him down and I'm £500.
- [84:46]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [84:46]
Max
I might have overex.
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PFT Commenter
Did you see the quote Aaron Rodgers had? Jeff Ulbrich said, it's a moment of darkness for the jets. And Aaron Rodgers said, I've been in the darkness. You gotta go in there and make peace with it. He's just talking about his darkness.
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Hank
Yeah, he's talking about ayahuasca. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Was that the Ayahuasca? Was that the. Because, remember, he did a darkness retreat that was different than the Iowa. Would you.
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Hank
Would you go to a darkness retreat sober, though?
- [85:11]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Well, he went to the place in what was like, Oregon or Washington where you, like, basically lived in a hut that was pitch black.
- [85:17]
Max
Oregon.
- [85:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I looked it up, too. It looks like a bunch of gnomes and they. Oh, yeah, that's right.
- [85:22]
Hank
He, like, lived in a tree.
- [85:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he lived. He lived in, like, the. Like. Yeah. Basically the side of a hill.
- [85:27]
Hank
Yeah.
- [85:28]
PFT Commenter
In a mossy home for two. Remember? He left it early, though.
- [85:32]
Hank
Yeah.
- [85:32]
PFT Commenter
So actually, he doesn't know this. He quit after, like, a day.
- [85:35]
Hank
It's not a real darkness retreat. Somebody comes there every day and, like, knocks on your door and talks to you, and they're like.
- [85:39]
PFT Commenter
He says a riddle.
- [85:40]
Hank
Here's your food. Figure out this riddle. Think about this riddle. It is. He is a gnome.
- [85:44]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [85:44]
Hank
This is a gnome lifestyle.
- [85:45]
PFT Commenter
He's a Keebler elf.
- [85:48]
Hank
Okay, so. Yeah, memes Aaron Rodgers. What are you gonna do with him?
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Eddie
Wait, can we have the meme analysis first.
- [85:54]
Hank
Oh, yeah. Good point.
- [85:54]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah.
- [85:56]
Max
It's a good meme. If we're just doing an unbiased breakdown, I would probably flip it just because the Patriots are the older.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, good point.
- [86:06]
Hank
They've been there.
- [86:07]
PFT Commenter
That's a good point. That's why. That's why you're the best in the bizarre. Yeah, that's. That is why you're the best in the biz.
- [86:14]
Hank
Also, he's wearing the. The short sleeve shirt. It looks kind of like Mayo's sweatshirt that he had on the sidelines.
- [86:19]
PFT Commenter
But let me. Let me back up this account. Rogers is the older guy because he's 40 and Drake may is the new guy. He's young, so it actually kind of works.
- [86:33]
Max
Yeah, but the paid. The jets are still the. The little brother.
- [86:38]
PFT Commenter
Oh, no.
- [86:39]
Hank
Who's Kevin spilling chili everywhere?
- [86:44]
Max
Probably Joe Douglas.
- [86:44]
Eddie
Sauce gardener.
- [86:45]
PFT Commenter
That might be to a. Concussed.
- [86:47]
Hank
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [86:48]
PFT Commenter
Concussed to.
- [86:50]
Hank
So, yeah. Memes. What. What do you do? What do you do moving forward?
- [86:54]
Max
Well, Aaron Rodgers probably gonna retire just next week and then we just move on.
- [87:02]
PFT Commenter
This is so sad. So you're totally done? Well, I mean that never totally. No, because let's. Let's be. We gotta all be honest here. Like, I'm. I'm not. I think the Bears can still make the playoffs. That's stupid. Right now.
- [87:17]
Max
We can't make the playoffs.
- [87:18]
PFT Commenter
You can't. So you're totally done.
- [87:20]
Max
We're. Right now. I've been saying we'll go like 11 and 6, blah, blah, blah. We're on pace for 2 and 15.
- [87:27]
PFT Commenter
2 and 15.
- [87:28]
Max
2 and 15 team.
- [87:30]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And the vibes are really bad in the locker room. I don't know if you saw some.
- [87:34]
Max
Of the tweets, but I did not.
- [87:36]
PFT Commenter
There was one that was. Let me find it for you because I just want to. I want to get your thoughts on it. Breeze. Hall was in the jets locker room in full uniform, towel over his head with head hanging low, hands on his head. This loss devastating on so. So many levels to players in here. They're searching for answers. They can't find. Hall, one of those guys who this means much more or so much to.
- [88:00]
Eddie
Damn.
- [88:02]
PFT Commenter
Full pet. Full uniform, pads, everything. Just.
- [88:05]
Hank
They need a realer speech from devonte Adams. The last one obviously wasn't real enough. Yeah, they. I have a insult stat, so it means cover your ears.
- [88:14]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah.
- [88:14]
Hank
From Rich Samini. He said this is crazy. The jets had zero turnovers, held the Patriots at 247 yards, and still lost to their first team to lose a game in which they did not turn the ball over and held their opponent under 250 yards since week three of 2012. You know what happened week three of 2012 also Aaron Rodgers lost.
- [88:33]
PFT Commenter
Oh.
- [88:34]
Hank
To the Seahawks in the Fail Mary game. Since then, teams to do that had been 220 and zero until today. Oh, pretty pretty.
- [88:44]
PFT Commenter
Also also means Jacoby Brissett did a game winning drive on you and he's not a good quarterback.
- [88:53]
Eddie
And the big play was on Sauce Gardner.
- [88:55]
PFT Commenter
And also I. Can I say something that I think, Hank, you'll probably agree with? I think actually Max, you'll agree with. Pft. You definitely will agree with. I think if the Patriots learned how to catch the ball and caught the ball in this game, they probably would have won by like two touchdowns.
- [89:11]
Hank
Yeah.
- [89:11]
PFT Commenter
They had so many drops, they dropped a million balls.
- [89:15]
Max
I don't think they win by two.
- [89:16]
Eddie
Touchdowns, but Drake may have played the whole game.
- [89:19]
Hank
How did Keyshawn Booty get so bad at catching the ball?
- [89:22]
PFT Commenter
They dropped everything. Memes.
- [89:24]
Max
They did drop.
- [89:24]
Hank
He was supposed to be like in college. He was. He was going to be like a top 10 pick.
- [89:29]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Hassan Reddick, he played.
- [89:33]
Max
We suck. We suck. We suck. Nothing. There's no help. We don't have a coach. We fired the coach. We upgraded to the dc. He's in over his head. He used all his timeouts in the first quarter. He doesn't know what he's fucking.
- [89:49]
Hank
That was nuts.
- [89:50]
PFT Commenter
It's crazy.
- [89:51]
Hank
All the timeouts gone.
- [89:52]
PFT Commenter
That was crazy.
- [89:54]
Hank
You just got to hope Woody Johnson gets arrested.
- [89:57]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. This is a disaster of a season. How's Greeny doing?
- [90:01]
Eddie
He's also Lighthouse curse broken.
- [90:03]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah.
- [90:03]
Eddie
You can't even use that anymore. How mad does that make you?
- [90:06]
PFT Commenter
Oh, what do you mean?
- [90:07]
Max
You have two. You have two wins since that dumb fucking Lighthouse bit built.
- [90:10]
Hank
No, but he no more.
- [90:12]
PFT Commenter
Hank did just. No, that was their first win in front of the new Lighthouse.
- [90:17]
Max
No, second they Bills. When last season.
- [90:21]
PFT Commenter
They did. Yeah. In front of the new hot Lighthouse.
- [90:24]
Hank
That was their only home win.
- [90:26]
PFT Commenter
All right. Yeah. Memes definitely did some research because he knew that was gonna come up.
- [90:30]
Hank
What he's been saying is that no.
- [90:32]
Eddie
Since I rung the bell.
- [90:34]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [90:35]
Eddie
That's the one that you post every week. What are you talking about?
- [90:37]
Hank
Yeah, since Hank kept the light.
- [90:39]
Max
No, it's not.
- [90:40]
Hank
Yeah.
- [90:41]
PFT Commenter
What do you post every week?
- [90:42]
Max
Overall record.
- [90:43]
Hank
No, it's. I've seen. I. Hank, I know what you're saying. He does the one where it's like since Hank Lockwood has kept the light, they haven't won a game at home. Who was the keeper of the light today?
- [90:53]
Eddie
I don't know.
- [90:54]
PFT Commenter
Bring him back. Bring him back. I'm sorry. Memes.
- [90:58]
Hank
Same.
- [90:59]
PFT Commenter
I'm in the same boat as you. Well, not fully, but loser organizations do loser things.
- [91:05]
Max
Yep.
- [91:06]
PFT Commenter
That's just kind of what happens.
- [91:09]
Eddie
You guys want a power rank to win teams in the fcs?
- [91:13]
PFT Commenter
Yes, I would love to.
- [91:14]
Hank
Okay.
- [91:16]
PFT Commenter
Jets got to be number one.
- [91:17]
Hank
Really?
- [91:18]
PFT Commenter
They're dangerous, dude.
- [91:22]
Eddie
I think Dolph risky.
- [91:25]
PFT Commenter
No, it's no Browns with James.
- [91:27]
Eddie
No, it's in the AFC East.
- [91:28]
PFT Commenter
Oh, just the afc. Yeah.
- [91:29]
Hank
So Dolphins. Dolphins versus Jets. Right now in Miami, the Dolphins are favored by what, two points, three points?
- [91:38]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Oh, is Vinitarian.
- [91:42]
Eddie
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He kind of.
- [91:45]
PFT Commenter
I don't know.
- [91:45]
Hank
I, I think, I think, I think the Jets. I think jets close second. Dolphins.
- [91:53]
PFT Commenter
But how can you. The Patriots just beat. Yeah, the Jets.
- [91:57]
Hank
Yeah, but jets got Aaron Rodgers.
- [91:59]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [91:59]
Hank
Devonte Adams. Now Hassan Reddick.
- [92:01]
PFT Commenter
Memes, you. What do you think?
- [92:03]
Max
We don't have a fucking coach.
- [92:04]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but we're the best team.
- [92:06]
Max
We don't have a coach. We have no one to coach these players. We have good players on our team. We don't have a coach.
- [92:11]
PFT Commenter
Do you.
- [92:12]
Max
Yes, we do have good players.
- [92:13]
Big Cat
Dolphins have good players.
- [92:15]
Max
They have a coach.
- [92:17]
Eddie
Now Patriots have. Okay.
- [92:18]
Hank
Players have bad player. Do the Patriots have a good coach?
- [92:22]
PFT Commenter
No, Bears don't have good players in a bad coach.
- [92:26]
Hank
Well, the Patriots have bad players, but they beat a team that has good players.
- [92:32]
Max
We don't have a kicker.
- [92:34]
Hank
You have a part.
- [92:35]
PFT Commenter
That's the one you gotta fucking get.
- [92:36]
Hank
Rid of on a kicker.
- [92:37]
PFT Commenter
You gotta get rid of that guy. He's bad and he's costing you every game. Hey, listen, win Thursday night. No.
- [92:47]
Max
Season's over.
- [92:48]
PFT Commenter
Okay?
- [92:48]
Max
It's over.
- [92:49]
PFT Commenter
I, I tend to agree with you because I don't think you're gonna beat the Texans because that Texans. You know what? Let's do the Texans game. Texans 23, Colts 20. That Texans defensive line is ferocious. Ferocious. I, I, Their, Their, their defense kind of won this game. I mean, the Texans offense continues to be clunky. Their offensive line isn't great. Stefan Diggs got hurt. But they're. The Texans are 6 and 2 and it feels like they have yet to play their best game.
- [93:19]
Hank
Yeah, they. Well, that's the thing is like, they haven't really played a great game yet.
- [93:23]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [93:23]
Hank
Which is really strange. Like, so we don't know if the Texans have that, I, I've just been waiting for the Texans to finally have that great game. But you're playing the Colts, and the Colts play everybody close. No matter how outmatched they are, no matter how injured they are. The Colts are just kind of going to be around at every single game, despite the fact that they get some terrible quarterback play.
- [93:40]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [93:41]
Hank
So Anthony Richardson in the first half, 2 for 15, 2 for 15 for 81 yards in the first half. Now, to be fair to Anthony Richardson, he had three drops in the first half. And I went back, I watched all three of those drops and he very easily could have been 5 for 15 for 150 yards.
- [94:01]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [94:02]
Hank
That would have been an awesome stat line.
- [94:03]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [94:04]
Hank
If we had gotten that.
- [94:04]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [94:05]
Hank
Because he, he hits the bombs. But besides a couple deep shots that he took, the game plan seemed to be just give Anthony Richardson the ball and then have him run and just hope that he doesn't get hurt somehow when he's running with ball.
- [94:18]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [94:18]
Hank
Because he doesn't. He never slides. He runs at people. And at one point he ran so much that he. He took himself out of the game.
- [94:26]
PFT Commenter
That was tough.
- [94:27]
Hank
I don't think I've ever seen an NFL quarterback say I need a blow.
- [94:30]
PFT Commenter
And he said it and he. After, in the post game, he was like, yeah, I was tired.
- [94:33]
Hank
Yeah, I just need a blow.
- [94:34]
PFT Commenter
Coach, that's a crazy thing to say.
- [94:38]
Hank
It's. It's nuts.
- [94:39]
PFT Commenter
Anthony Richardson and we're not going to pick on him. He's. I mean, I guess I still understand the Colts trying to figure it out. Because you took him with the number four pick. I do think Joe Flacco probably wins this game.
- [94:52]
Hank
Yeah. That's the thing about the Colts. They're constantly one score away.
- [94:55]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [94:55]
Hank
With bad quarterback play. If you have average quarterback play, you win these kinds of games.
- [95:00]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. So Anthony Richardson is from Austin Gale. Anthony Richardson ranks 222nd in completion rate among the 225 quarterbacks with 250 plus drop backs since the year 2000. So the only three quarterbacks that are below Anthony Richardson are Tim Tebow, Mike McCannon McMahon from the Eagles, and then Achilles Smith. That's bad. Ryan Leaf is ahead of him.
- [95:28]
Hank
Yeah.
- [95:28]
PFT Commenter
It's not Ryan Lindley, Curtis Painter, Troy Smith, jamarcus Russell, Andrew Walter. They're all ahead of him. It's just. I don't know. I don't know if it's like mechanics or what. He's never been accurate. But yeah, I mean, there was drops I guess just keep trying.
- [95:43]
Hank
Yeah, keep trying.
- [95:44]
PFT Commenter
I guess it's good to see Jonathan Taylor out there.
- [95:46]
Hank
It depends on what you want to accomplish this year.
- [95:48]
PFT Commenter
I. I think you just have to keep trying because you got to basically definitively say, all right, this didn't work and we have to move on. But you can't do that if you don't play it, right?
- [96:01]
Hank
Yeah, yeah. He has. He has to learn. He's not going to learn by not playing.
- [96:05]
PFT Commenter
Right. So.
- [96:07]
Hank
But excuse me, but Flacco. Flacco wins this game.
- [96:13]
PFT Commenter
Flacco wins this game. The Texans are good and they have not played a good game yet.
- [96:19]
Hank
Also, DeForest Buckner being back for the Colts helps a lot, too.
- [96:22]
PFT Commenter
DeForest Buckner definitely helps.
- [96:24]
Hank
I always forget how huge he is.
- [96:26]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's a monster. He's a monster. Okay, the next game, Lions 52, Titans 14. This was a weird game because it was tied 14 14. The final score is 52 14. The lion scored 52 points and they had 61 total net yards passing.
- [96:45]
Hank
Yeah, some crazy, crazy stats out of that game.
- [96:48]
Eddie
That's unfathomable.
- [96:49]
PFT Commenter
It really is.
- [96:50]
Hank
Hank. Can't fathom it.
- [96:52]
PFT Commenter
I cannot fathom it either, Hank. How?
- [96:55]
Hank
Think about it.
- [96:56]
Eddie
Did they have 400 rushing yards?
- [96:57]
PFT Commenter
No, they had special teams. Every single time you looked up, the Lions were running down the field with a special teams play. They had a 72 yard kickoff return, a 64 yard punt return, and then a 90 yard punt return for a touchdown. That's a lot of return yards.
- [97:15]
Eddie
I still feel like with 52 points, there's like 250 yards missing. Yeah.
- [97:19]
Hank
So from that, when they had 35 points, they had 130 yards of offense. Yeah, it's crazy. And they had Jared Goffstadt, he had 85 yards passing. So he had 28 yards passing in the first half and he scored 21 points. Look like it's. It's insane. That's the fewest. That's got to be the fewest yards per point in the NFL.
- [97:45]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, they kept on. It was either a awesome return or a Titans turnover. Like the Lions scored the first. Their first score of the game was off of a Mason Rudolph interception. 23 yards. So it's seven nothing. And they've only had to gain 23 yards. Then they did have the Jameer Gibbs run, which was insane. The 70 yard run. He's so fast.
- [98:05]
Hank
One play, 70 yards.
- [98:05]
PFT Commenter
So that was 70 yards. And then they got a big return and then they only had to go 25 yards for a touchdown. So it just kept on happening where they were just. They'd be going right down the field. Then another interception. 12 yards for a touchdown.
- [98:19]
Hank
So, yeah, their first was two plays, 23 yards. Next one play, 70 yards. Next three plays, 25 yards.
- [98:27]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [98:27]
Hank
Next four plays, 12 yards. Next seven plays, 22 yards.
- [98:31]
PFT Commenter
It was just. Every single time I looked up, there was a kick return that was going for a million yards.
- [98:39]
Hank
Yeah.
- [98:39]
PFT Commenter
And the Titans are. The Titans, the worst team in the NFL.
- [98:42]
Hank
Well, the Titans, I respect the fact that they realize, like, we got a tank. Yeah, yeah.
- [98:46]
PFT Commenter
Probably Panthers, but Titans are. There's. The Titans have bottomed out. Like, the Titans were frisky for a while. Their defense, I mean, I guess you could even say their defense. They're. They. The defense. The. The Titans outgained the Lions by a ton of yards.
- [99:03]
Hank
The Lion. The Titans defense, shockingly, wasn't bad in terms of yards given up in this game. And that's just because their offense just gave the other team the ball.
- [99:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. But the Titans, it feels like they're bottoming out because they had the Bills game last week where they were same thing. They were up. I know they weren't up in this game, but they were up 10, nothing. Then they lost 34, 10. This game, they're. It's 14. 14. They lost 52. 14. The Lions are just an absolute juggernaut right now. I don't know, like, because the Chiefs are undefeated, but the Chiefs aren't playing every Chiefs game. It feels like it's a little bit.
- [99:39]
Hank
They're playing really good defense.
- [99:40]
PFT Commenter
They're playing great defense. Yeah. But the Chiefs aren't playing like a full complete game. The Lions, it feels like what they've been doing in the last four games has been just out of this world. They actually. Here's a crazy stat. You ready for this?
- [99:52]
Hank
Yep.
- [99:53]
PFT Commenter
The Lions in the last four games have 172 points, which is more points. In the last four games, the Lions have more points then 14 teams have points all year.
- [100:04]
Hank
Yeah.
- [100:05]
PFT Commenter
That's how good the Lions have been.
- [100:06]
Hank
The Cowboys game, the Vikings game. This one. And then what's the other one? I'm forgetting the.
- [100:14]
PFT Commenter
The Seahawks.
- [100:15]
Hank
Seahawks, that's right. They beat the. Out of Seattle.
- [100:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah, they won. They won that game. 42:29. The Lions are just. I don't know how you defend the Lions. How do you. How do you go against the Lions?
- [100:25]
Hank
Yeah. And this is no Jameson.
- [100:27]
PFT Commenter
No Jameson.
- [100:28]
Hank
Jameson today. And they've got one of their other generic ass receiver names that'll step up. Yeah. Tim Patrick.
- [100:34]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [100:34]
Hank
Alan Robinson.
- [100:35]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [100:35]
Hank
Doesn't matter. They just have the generic ass receiver names.
- [100:38]
PFT Commenter
There's. I mean, Jared didn't even have to play the entire fourth quarter. Yeah, it's, it's crazy. This was a classic, classic trap spot because they go, they, they were going like awesome game against the Cowboys. Emotional win, lose Aiden Hutchinson, then get up off the mat, beat the Vikings in a back and forth game, play the Titans at home at noon or 1:00 local. And then they have the packers next week. This was the spot where the Titans or the Lions could have looked like shit. And they did the exact opposite and looked like no one could ever beat him.
- [101:11]
Hank
And Jameer Gibbs looks unreal. He continues to look unreal. He's got six. Is it six games in a row, averaging over five yards per carry.
- [101:20]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [101:20]
Hank
On at least 10 attempts. And the only other guys to ever do that are Franco Harris, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson.
- [101:26]
PFT Commenter
It's crazy.
- [101:27]
Hank
Yeah. Here's a Best start for the Lions since 1956.
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PFT Commenter
A stat from the Detroit Lions PR. Today marks the 19th game that David Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs have played together. They're the first running back duo in NFL history to each accumulate at least 1500 scrimmage yards and 15 scrimmage TDs in a tandem's first 20 games together. They're so good.
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Hank
Yeah. Everything about the offense is good.
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PFT Commenter
They're so good.
- [101:54]
Hank
They don't have a weakness on offense.
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PFT Commenter
I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do about the Lions. The Lions are a problem.
- [101:59]
Hank
They're a problem. The only, it's like the only riddle that can be solved is if they play against the Chiefs in the defense.
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PFT Commenter
Do you think they're gonna.
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Hank
I think the line get a pass.
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PFT Commenter
Rusher in the trade deadline.
- [102:11]
Hank
I don't know. Because who can you get if you're not Max Crosby, apparently not on the market anymore for some reason.
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PFT Commenter
I don't know.
- [102:18]
Hank
I guess because like Mark Davis likes having a good player on his team.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Eddie
Hasan Riddick.
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PFT Commenter
Hasan Reddick.
- [102:24]
Hank
Yeah. I don't know who else they can get, but on offense they don't have a weakness.
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PFT Commenter
They don't.
- [102:30]
Hank
They've got a great tight end. They've got two, maybe three really, really good receivers. You would say Amon Ross, probably a great receiver. You've got two awesome running backs. MVP level quarterback, offensive. The best offensive line.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Maybe in the nfc.
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PFT Commenter
And the one good. I guess the one silver lining for the Titans is That you're trying to trade everyone now. And Calvin Ridley had a good game.
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Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So that was like a, hey, this guy's still good. Come and take him down.
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Eddie
And Christian Kirk got hurt, which is good for Calvin Ridley's trade back.
- [103:04]
Hank
Yeah. I think this was actually.
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PFT Commenter
Why is that good for.
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Hank
Because he was the other receiver.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, he was going to get traded. The Jags were gonna get. Look at you.
- [103:12]
Hank
The Titans might have gone into this game just trying to increase Calvin Ridley's trade value as much as possible. If they did, if that was their game plan, this was a great result for the Titans.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
And their GM is now doing interviews where he's like encouraging people, listen, stick with us long term. He's telling everyone we are tanking. Please don't hate us, but we're tanking. Just support the long term goal. This was a great game for the Tank.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Hank
Great game.
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PFT Commenter
Great game for the Tank. Okay, let's go to afternoon games before we do that. Pft. You got a couple more ads and then we'll wrap up with some playoff baseball. And who's back?
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Hank
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PFT Commenter
Okay, afternoon games. Chiefs, Raiders, or. Sorry, Bill. Seahawks. We'll start with Josh Allen did throw an interception. Mario Cooper did slip. But the Bills absolutely dominated the Seahawks.
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Hank
Things are not going good for the Seahawks right now.
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PFT Commenter
The Seahawks are the most confusing team in the NFL to me because when they look good and DK Metcalf was out in this game and I, I, he is so important to their offense, but when they look good, they look like he beat anyone. And then in this game, they had, it was like yakety sacks at goal line plays where they had the, it was like third and goal in this, the botch snap where it ended up being. Or no, I think it was second in goal and they had third and goal from like the 34. Then the next time they went down, they, I think the center tripped Geno Smith on fourth down, so. And then they had guys fighting each other on the sidelines.
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Hank
Yeah, they were fighting themselves.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [106:01]
Hank
They had to trust themselves to get in between and break it up without taking sides. I feel like the Lions broke them. I mean, they did beat the Falcons a couple weeks ago. That was a big win for the Seahawks. But that Lions loss on Monday night really just up the Seahawks entire season.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [106:16]
Hank
And so it was, it was very weird for them. They couldn't get a rhythm going offensively. And then they started fighting each other. The rain was. It was the fattest rain I've ever seen. It was some fat ass, really fat rain. And the Bills just played really good, clean football.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. And I, The Bills are just good. Like, I don't know why. I know the Ravens have been flashy because they've been killing it. And they beat the Bills. The Chiefs are undefeated. What? Like the Bills all of a sudden have, like. I know Stefan Diggs. They get, they trade him. But with the way the Keon Coleman's playing, Shakir's a really good receiver. Amari Cooper now there. Kincaid, James Cook.
- [106:55]
Hank
James Cook.
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PFT Commenter
They have a ton of weapons.
- [106:56]
Hank
Yeah, James Cook is awesome.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [106:58]
Hank
He's playing really well. And they just need to remember to run the football, that it's okay to run the football.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. We also had one of the coolest Josh Allen plays where he punted a fumble for a first down.
- [107:07]
Hank
He dropped it, kicked it, fumble recovered.
- [107:10]
PFT Commenter
It was, it was incredible.
- [107:11]
Hank
It's a, it's a very good thing to do in a Football game.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [107:14]
Hank
Write that down. That is a loophole in the rulebook.
- [107:16]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. But I. The Bills are just a good team. They have as many wins as the rest of the AFC east combined.
- [107:21]
Hank
6 and 2.
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PFT Commenter
3.
- [107:22]
Hank
2. Should we congratulate the Bills?
- [107:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I'd say the Bills have the AFC East.
- [107:26]
Hank
Congratulations. The Buffalo Bills, for.
- [107:27]
PFT Commenter
They have won the AFC East. I think that's pretty much wrapped up. They look. I mean, the Bills like their run defense, they completely shut down the Seahawks running game. Seahawks running games sucked today. They were just. It felt like they were in the backfield the entire game. I. The Bills are just really good. Max even said it. He was like, why don't we talk about the Bills being like true super bowl contenders? I think we do, but I think he was talking about more like the general public.
- [107:55]
Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
I think it's because it was. It was the back to back. Ravens. Texans. Yeah.
- [107:59]
Hank
So the Ravens, they look very, very bad.
- [108:02]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [108:03]
Hank
And that felt like just a style. Like the two styles that didn't seem like a fluke. It seems like the. The Ravens are built to just shit pump. The Buffalo Bills.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [108:13]
Hank
And then with the Texans, that was Josh Allen's worst game, I think, ever.
- [108:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [108:17]
Hank
Like one of the worst completion percentages, I think, of all time that he had. And then since then, they. They've beaten two bad teams and we don't know what the Seahawks are.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, they've. And they. It. Well, they've. They've all the games that they should win. They've won pretty handily. And yeah, we don't know what the Seahawks are. Seahawks are just confusing. I do not know what to make of the Seahawks week to week.
- [108:40]
Hank
No. And then they've got the Dolphins and then at Indy and then after that, I'm looking Forward to the 17th.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [108:47]
Hank
Against the Chiefs.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. That's gonna be a great game.
- [108:49]
Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Flex that Sunday night.
- [108:51]
Hank
I agree.
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PFT Commenter
Give us. Give that to us on Sunday night. But yeah, the Bills are great. And I don't know what the Seahawks. I can't make. Anytime you have a defense fighting each other, it feels like bad vibes.
- [109:02]
Hank
Tough look for the. For the twelves today. Yeah, very tough look because there were a ton of Bills fans there. McDermott after the game was like, I've never seen Seattle like that before. Apparently Buffalo made the trip. Got a protective trout.
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Eddie
Bills, Lions, super bowl in New Orleans.
- [109:19]
PFT Commenter
Oh, my God.
- [109:21]
Eddie
We need it.
- [109:22]
PFT Commenter
Oh, my God, that would be incredible.
- [109:25]
Hank
I'm gonna be drunk for months.
- [109:27]
PFT Commenter
That would be the. That would be the biggest that would be such a fun party scene with those two fan bases knowing that one of those two fan bases is going to get a Super Bowl.
- [109:37]
Hank
What's the spread.
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Eddie
Lines? Minus three and a half.
- [109:43]
Hank
I think that. I think it starts out at three and a half. The sharps take up to five.
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PFT Commenter
But think about the Bills. They would have to have beaten the Chiefs and the probably the Ravens to get there. So they would have like, people would be like really hyping them up. Yeah.
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Hank
Probably three and a half with the lines. Yeah. Lines would probably be looked at as. Okay, you won the nfc. Yeah. I think, I think it's close in that now.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Three and a half. Okay. Chiefs 27, Raiders 20. We should mention it was National Tight End Day. So Travis Kelsey, of course, scored this Sunday. Yeah. This Sunday. Scored his first touchdown season. I'm just mad because I didn't just bet every tight end to score a touchdown because every tight end scored a touchdown, basically.
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Hank
Can I tell you something?
- [110:30]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [110:31]
Hank
I don't love National Tight End Day.
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PFT Commenter
I do. If it could make us money next year.
- [110:34]
Hank
Yeah. If we had capitalized on. Yeah, nice.
- [110:36]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. If we can make a note for National Tight End Day next year.
- [110:41]
Hank
I feel like recently Titans, they get their fair share of the publicity. Right.
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Eddie
But they're making a lot of fanfare about how tight ends don't make fan.
- [110:50]
Hank
Yeah.
- [110:50]
Eddie
Just.
- [110:51]
Hank
And meanwhile one of them is dating the most famous person in the world.
- [110:54]
PFT Commenter
True.
- [110:55]
Hank
They. But they get no love.
- [110:57]
PFT Commenter
It's. They all scored though.
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Hank
Let's do a.
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PFT Commenter
We should have bet it. That that's. That's the only thing I'm upset about is like I didn't know that they were going to actually all play like the most incredible games in National Tight End Day.
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Hank
Let's do a National Blocking Tight Ends Day. I like the guys that are like real high up in the 80s numbers. Numbers 88 and 89 that just go out there and they get called out maybe once a series.
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PFT Commenter
Mercedes Lewis.
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Hank
Yeah, Mercedes Lewis. Just like the real chunky guys. Real heavy legs.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [111:25]
Hank
Don't run very fast. Let's celebrate those guys.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. But they all went off. And Travis Kelsey scored his first touchdown of the season. This is.
- [111:34]
Hank
And he looked good today too.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, he did. He looked good. The Chiefs defense won this game. The game basically came down to. It was a seven point game in the half and then the Raiders started on the Chiefs 28, started to drive on the Chiefs 28, started to Drive on the Chiefs 3. And they only got three points out of it. That was the game. And the one they started on the 28th, they got a field goal. The one they started on the three. They got stonewalled four straight plays. And then Patrick Mahomes went on a 19 play, 90 yard drive. That's like a. That's like an army offense. Yeah, 19 play, 90 yard drive. The Raiders got stopped at fourth and goal on the three yard line or four yard line with 327 in the third quarter. They didn't get the ball back till 8:44 in the fourth.
- [112:26]
Hank
Was it the Raiders or was it the Titans that had that offensive standout? It was at the goal line and they ran like three plays out of shotgun. Like three running plays. I think at a shotgun. I don't know if I think that might have been the Titans. But the similar thing with the Raiders just like not being able to get it in there.
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PFT Commenter
They can't run the ball. They average 1.6 yards per carry today.
- [112:45]
Hank
Would Madison have like 14 carries for 15 yards? Yeah, it was bad scene if you're a Raiders fan.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [112:51]
Hank
And it was. It was the Kermit the Frog revenge game for the Chiefs too.
- [112:54]
PFT Commenter
It was, but they didn't cover.
- [112:56]
Hank
They remember that.
- [112:56]
PFT Commenter
The back door.
- [112:57]
Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So it didn't count for that. But yeah, the Chiefs defense is awesome. I don't like in Patrick Rose through another interception. I don't think it matters. He just, he just needs to like Patrick Mahomes with this defense. He needs to just have like three or four good drives a game and extend plays like he does. And they did ball control. They just, they held the ball and they suffocated the Raiders. And yeah, their defense is so. So for real.
- [113:25]
Hank
Are Chiefs fans concerned at all though?
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PFT Commenter
I don't think so.
- [113:28]
Hank
About Mahomes just not playing as dominant as he's played in the past.
- [113:32]
PFT Commenter
Well, I think they probably should trade for another weapon, actually. Seth Walder said on Twitt. I think he does analytics for espn. He said the Chiefs should call the jets about devonte Adams, which actually would be an interesting trade.
- [113:45]
Hank
Flip him.
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PFT Commenter
Do you think devonte Adams is on the trade market?
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Max
Nope.
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PFT Commenter
Why not?
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Max
He's a Jet Jet for three more years.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, okay.
- [113:56]
Hank
Should they call?
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PFT Commenter
They should call. Why wouldn't you call? Why wouldn't you take a call?
- [114:01]
Hank
Make the jets say yes.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, because the Raiders didn't want to trade him to the Chiefs. But what if the jets trade him to the Chiefs? Who cares? That was such a funny thing. I don't know. That would be very funny.
- [114:14]
Hank
It would be very play spoiler memes spoil the Raiders.
- [114:21]
PFT Commenter
No, this probably isn't the most shocking thing I'm about to say. We do like him. But Antonio Pierce failed the down 14 score late 2 point conversion tests checks out. Yeah. I never expected. Do we ask him? We might have asked him.
- [114:36]
Hank
I don't know if we did. But he did. He passed the. Don't kick a field goal when you're, when you're trailing by like nine points at the one yard line. That was nice.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. Which he failed last week. Yeah. Okay. Next up, Bo Nicks. Bo Nicks, Broncos 28, Panthers 14. Bo Nicks had an awesome game. National tight end day. Adam Troutman had his career high and in the first half and a sick TD catch and yeah, the Broncos. This is what playing the Panthers is like. It's fun.
- [115:06]
Hank
It's really fun.
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PFT Commenter
It's really, really fun.
- [115:07]
Hank
21 points in the second quarter. Bryce Young didn't look as bad as he has looked as bad. He wasn't good today.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I was going to say.
- [115:19]
Hank
Let's say it this way. Do you think Bryce Young his, his trade value increased, decreased or stayed the same after today?
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PFT Commenter
I think the deacre.
- [115:29]
Eddie
It's. It's nothing.
- [115:30]
PFT Commenter
He's bad. The Panthers should have benched him the second he finished that first drive for a touchdown. When they went up 7 nothing. Because that was it. That was the peak. You should have gotten out right then. That was, that was basically. You're hot on the blackjack table. Walk away a winner. Like that was it right there.
- [115:48]
Hank
You gotta do a pump and dump with Bryce Young.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [115:50]
Hank
You gotta, you gotta script out some sick plays for him right off the bat and then after he gets done with it be like, okay, we, we can't get you hurt.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [115:57]
Hank
Come to the sidelines. Let another team take you.
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PFT Commenter
I, I mean I, I do think the Broncos are, they're, they're. I mean their defense is very good and if Bo Nicks can play with some confidence, you got something there.
- [116:06]
Hank
Would you say the Broncos are a very quiet five and three?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I would say so.
- [116:10]
Hank
Why are they such a quiet 5 and 3?
- [116:12]
PFT Commenter
I think they're a quiet 5 and 3 because we've seen Bonix is. His bad has been really bad.
- [116:20]
Hank
I think it's because two things. The loss to the Steelers in week two where they scored six points, that was a tough game to watch. Yep, that was really tough. And then. Yeah, besides that, I guess they beat the Jets 10 to 9.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that was a bad.
- [116:35]
Hank
That was just a bad game to watch because it was that weird storm in New Jersey.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. And their win against the Bucks was kind of. You know, that was an early game that was kind of lost in the shuffle, so. Yeah. And people didn't think the Broncos were good then, but now they're. They're five and three. This is the best Broncos been in a while.
- [116:53]
Hank
They probably. They probably started eating uncrustables right before that Bucks game.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Which, by the way, we have a entire refrigerator full of, like, 700 uncrustables.
- [117:02]
Eddie
800.
- [117:03]
PFT Commenter
800. We're ready to go this week.
- [117:06]
Hank
So we're trying to beat the Broncos. Right. That's the goal.
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PFT Commenter
But we're not doing it in a way. I still have to send out the email to the office being like, don't. It's not a competition.
- [117:15]
Hank
10 a day, but eat as.
- [117:16]
PFT Commenter
Eat as many uncrustables as you want. It's not a competition. Just do it naturally. How do I send that email? Or should I not even send an email and just see people? Because people will just generally just go and grab them. Yeah. That's the way we do it.
- [117:30]
Hank
Yeah. Just don't make a big deal out of beating the Broncos. We want to see naturally where we stack up.
- [117:35]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I think that's fair. Like, I'm probably gonna have, like, four or five a day, maybe.
- [117:41]
Hank
Yeah.
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Eddie
I was trying to do math. I feel like we're gonna break it. I think those uncrustables are gonna be gone by Wednesday.
- [117:48]
Hank
I will personally eat three a day.
- [117:51]
PFT Commenter
Really?
- [117:52]
Hank
Interesting.
- [117:55]
Eddie
We'll beat it by the end of the week for sure.
- [117:57]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [117:57]
Hank
Yeah, I think we can do that.
- [117:58]
PFT Commenter
I like that. What means you're saying yes, say dominate it.
- [118:04]
Eddie
Some people are gonna eat, like, seven to ten.
- [118:06]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Max
No, we'll crush it.
- [118:07]
Eddie
You two being two of them.
- [118:09]
PFT Commenter
What?
- [118:09]
Hank
I just said I'm gonna eat three.
- [118:11]
PFT Commenter
Exactly. I said I was gonna eat four or five.
- [118:12]
Hank
Exactly.
- [118:15]
PFT Commenter
Did J.C. horn try to fight Sean Payton after the game? Can you find that clip? I saw it going around. I didn't. I wasn't able to watch it because I saw it after we started. I'm pretty sure J.C. horn tried to fight Sean Payton for doing a fake field goal up 14 or 21.
- [118:31]
Eddie
He ran up to him. Yeah. When the game ended in the middle of the field.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. And was like, what the fuck? I mean, the Panthers are just so sad. It's. It's. It's. It's a tough watch. It's a tough, tough watch. I Don't really know what. What you do. All right, here it is. Wait. Sean Payton is definitely not someone that gives a fuck about, like, good sportsmanship.
- [118:53]
Hank
No. Actively. I'd say the contrary.
- [118:56]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I don't think he's okay. He ran up on him. Yeah.
- [119:09]
Hank
I think he's just g. That's giving him a piece of your mind.
- [119:11]
Eddie
It's just shop talk.
- [119:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Piece of his mind just being upset. Trick play on. Fourth and two. Well up 28, seven in the fourth quarter. Sean Payton's trying some stuff out. Yeah.
- [119:20]
Hank
You gotta. You gotta get a look at it. You gotta see what works.
- [119:23]
PFT Commenter
All right, last up, or we'll talk about Sunday Night Football as well. Chargers 26, Saints 8. Justin Herbert is really good. And so is lad.
- [119:31]
Hank
McConkey. Yeah, lad football.
- [119:32]
PFT Commenter
Lad Saints might be the worst team in the league.
- [119:35]
Hank
They're the Panthers. Panthers. You forget about the Panthers.
- [119:40]
PFT Commenter
So take out the Panthers. Who's the second?
- [119:42]
Hank
Okay, so you got the Titans.
- [119:43]
PFT Commenter
Titans.
- [119:43]
Hank
You got the Raiders.
- [119:45]
PFT Commenter
Raiders. Jets.
- [119:46]
Hank
The frustrating thing about the Raiders is they're so Gardner Minshew knows where the ball should go or he knows where he should run, when he should take off and run, but he's just, like, not fast enough to actually get there.
- [119:58]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [119:58]
Hank
And he doesn't have the arm strength to actually get the ball there.
- [120:01]
PFT Commenter
Right, Right.
- [120:03]
Hank
But I don't think that the Raiders are as bad as the Titans.
- [120:05]
PFT Commenter
I guess the Saints will be better when Derek Carr comes back because they bench Spencer Rattler today for Jay Kaner, which. Yeah, I mean, it's. It's a bad scene.
- [120:14]
Hank
And have you seen Jake Hayner's, like, press photos that he did this year?
- [120:17]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [120:18]
Hank
They are zesty. They are so funny.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Zesty.
- [120:22]
Hank
They're the funniest press photos of all time.
- [120:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Justin Herbert was a beast today, though. He's really fucking good. And, hey, listen, guys. Chargers, they win next week, might be making some. Some ground. I really wish we'd beaten the Cardinals for that super bowl future. I also wanted to do something real quick. Now, this is. I'm gonna say, I understand, like, the content business. I don't want to copy anyone, but I did see this new segment on Inside the NFL called Football Guy of the Week, and I wanted to give Football Guy of the Week to Bradley Boseman.
- [120:52]
Hank
Yes.
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PFT Commenter
For protecting Justin Herbert after Nathaniel Shepard basically tried to rip his leg off.
- [121:00]
Hank
Yeah. So Nathaniel Shepard did, like, the Gator role with Justin Herbert's leg. Tried to shatter his ankle, his knee. And then Boseman saw it happen. And he came in and just wiped them out, which was awesome. They should have penalized him for that.
- [121:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [121:12]
Hank
And then after they asked him about it, he said, it's probably one of the dirtier plays I've ever seen. And then he said, protect your quarterback no matter what.
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PFT Commenter
Football guy of the week.
- [121:21]
Hank
Football guy of the week.
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PFT Commenter
And that's you can credit to inside the NFL.
- [121:24]
Hank
You know that. That Harbaugh went up to him after the game, was like, protect your quarterback no matter what.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [121:28]
Hank
He's like, yeah, you're absolutely right, Coach.
- [121:29]
PFT Commenter
I love you. Yeah. Yeah. Herbert. Yeah. Yeah. Harbaugh definitely gave him a game ball and probably, like, smacked him around a little.
- [121:36]
Hank
I'll pay your fine.
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PFT Commenter
That was one of the dirtiest plays. I don't know what the fuck that guy was doing. He almost, like, blacked out and forgot that we were in the year 2020 and this wasn't. And then what's just an insane. Insane. Just trying to twist Justin Herbert's leg. Yeah. So Bradley Bozeman, first ever football guy of the week. You guys like that?
- [121:56]
Hank
The Saints are dirty.
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PFT Commenter
They're.
- [121:57]
Hank
They're a dirty team.
- [121:58]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, they are. They always got the. They always got it in. You know, like, I got the history.
- [122:02]
Eddie
By football guy, I mean, like, he's like a football player.
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PFT Commenter
No, he's a football guy of the week.
- [122:06]
Hank
Football guy. It's like a guy that he.
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Eddie
Well, he's a player.
- [122:08]
Hank
Yeah, but no, football. He's a guy that just. All he thinks about is football.
- [122:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Protect your quarterback no matter what.
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Eddie
Interesting.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. I don't think you get it.
- [122:18]
Hank
Hank doesn't get it.
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Eddie
I mean, I feel like everyone's there, watch. All players, watch inside.
- [122:23]
PFT Commenter
You don't get it.
- [122:24]
Hank
They do a better job explaining than we do.
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PFT Commenter
All right, last up, Sunday Night Football, the Cowboys, they just did the same thing where they were. They were actually playing. Okay. In the first half, Niners come out and beat the shit out of them. And then the Cowboys make the game look like it's more competitive than it was by only losing by six.
- [122:46]
Hank
Yeah, some nice plays by the 49ers defense. They had a sick interception of Dak. They almost got another one at the very end of the game, too.
- [122:52]
PFT Commenter
Dak had some. Dak had that one interception where he was basically telegraphing it to a double covered CD Lamb along the sideline.
- [122:59]
Hank
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Was bad. What. What was this? Trayvon Diggs did a Deez Nuts joke to reporters.
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Big Cat
Yeah, this is great.
- [123:07]
PFT Commenter
After the game.
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Big Cat
This was after the game. There. There was A. This reporter tweeted something. It was like, what. What is Trayvon Diggs doing on this play? And he just went nuclear on him.
- [123:19]
PFT Commenter
Oh, hell yes.
- [123:20]
Big Cat
And, yeah, I'll show you.
- [123:22]
Hank
I'll play it out.
- [123:23]
PFT Commenter
Play? That's what you took from that? You don't know football. You can't do nothing that I do. You can't go out there and do nothing.
- [123:28]
Hank
Stay in your lane, buddy.
- [123:30]
PFT Commenter
Stop playing me, bro.
- [123:31]
Eddie
Just asking the question, Trayvon.
- [123:33]
Hank
I mean, I'm happy to have you answer the question.
- [123:38]
PFT Commenter
That's what you got from that.
- [123:39]
Hank
That whole play.
- [123:40]
PFT Commenter
That's what you got from that.
- [123:41]
Hank
I'm asking.
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Eddie
We can talk about it more.
- [123:45]
PFT Commenter
What were you doing then?
- [123:48]
Big Cat
Yeah, right at the end, he says, we can talk about these nuts.
- [123:51]
Hank
Jerry's gonna have that guy fired.
- [123:53]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [123:53]
Hank
Or try to.
- [123:54]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't feel good. Cowboys are. Doesn't feel like good vibes in Dallas right now.
- [124:00]
Hank
It doesn't. But this. This is great vibes for the Niners.
- [124:03]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [124:04]
Hank
And Ricky Pearsall got the ball. Was fast out there. That was cool to see.
- [124:08]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [124:08]
Hank
Good for him.
- [124:09]
PFT Commenter
And their backup running back, Isaac Garendo, was awesome in Kittle. Yeah. Kittle showed up for national tight end days. 128 yards and a touchdown. So Niners back or do they play the Cowboys?
- [124:21]
Hank
I. I think the Niners might be back.
- [124:23]
PFT Commenter
Dak is just.
- [124:24]
Hank
Purdy looked good, too. Purdy was moving around out there. He's got. He had Debo back, which is very helpful. So having Debo and Kittle playing at the same time like the 49er, I don't think there's anything broken about the 49ers besides the fact that they have a lot of players that aren't playing for them.
- [124:39]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [124:39]
Hank
And when they get those guys healthy, I still think that they're a good team. They're not, I guess, dominant as they've been in the past when they have Christian McCaffrey, but they're still a very. I'd say they're a good football team.
- [124:50]
PFT Commenter
Yes. Even without them and the Cowboys building their entire offense out of just Dak and CD Lamb feels like it's not built for long term success.
- [125:00]
Hank
Did they give the ball to Cook at all? Did Dalvin get the ball?
- [125:03]
PFT Commenter
Got six carries for guess the yards.
- [125:05]
Hank
Six carries, 11 yards. 12. 12 yards, 12 yards. He still got it. Still got that burst.
- [125:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. But when you look at, like, who Dak throws the ball to, CD had 13 catches, 17 targets, and then the rest of the team basically had 20 the rest of the team had 20 targets. He had 17. It feels not sustainable.
- [125:31]
Hank
I'm watching this. Ricky Pearsall. It was an end around inside handoff. He's going to be fun to watch.
- [125:39]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [125:39]
Hank
We were saying he should be allowed to do the simulated guns.
- [125:42]
PFT Commenter
Yes. He's the only guy.
- [125:43]
Hank
If you got your. Maybe Tank Dell.
- [125:45]
PFT Commenter
Maybe Tank Dell.
- [125:46]
Hank
Yeah. You should be allowed to do it.
- [125:48]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Brian Robinson.
- [125:50]
Hank
Brian Robinson should be allowed to do it. Yep.
- [125:52]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Okay. Before we do who's back of the week, I got a rollback question for you guys. Rho b a c k.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase. Qzips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. Are the Yankees cooked? Talk a little World Series.
- [126:09]
Hank
Let's talk. I think Aaron Judge not a true Yankee.
- [126:12]
PFT Commenter
Aaron Judge.
- [126:13]
Eddie
Aaron Boone a true Yankee.
- [126:14]
PFT Commenter
No, no. But Aaron Judge is a loser.
- [126:17]
Hank
I think he, he was a true Yankee player. But can you. He's kind of lost that as a manager.
- [126:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. The game one of the World Series was one of the best baseball games ever. Yeah.
- [126:29]
Hank
It was.
- [126:30]
PFT Commenter
It was so exciting. Back and forth. Freddie Freeman's grand slam walk off home run was one of the coolest moments. Him, he just knew the second it hit his bat that it was gone.
- [126:41]
Hank
Yeah.
- [126:42]
PFT Commenter
Has to be the coolest feeling of all time.
- [126:43]
Hank
You watch that and you think that almost every dude that is, that is watching that baseball game has pretended to be that person in that moment when they were young.
- [126:51]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. And the Yankees are just like, Aaron Judge is a regular season merchant. All he does is get hit home runs the regular season doesn't show up in the playoffs. Like that's. And if there's one fan base that will not tolerate that, it's the New York Yankees.
- [127:07]
Hank
Yeah.
- [127:07]
PFT Commenter
Does not have his pinstripes.
- [127:09]
Hank
And having a guy like Juan Soto come in and be the only one that's. That's hitting dingers.
- [127:13]
PFT Commenter
Who's Giancarlo?
- [127:14]
Hank
Didn't Juan Soto.
- [127:15]
PFT Commenter
Giancarlo hit one on game one.
- [127:17]
Hank
I'm ready.
- [127:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. But Giancarlo, he hit one to the, to the moon. And John Carlo's been hitting a lot of dingers.
- [127:22]
Hank
But I'm saying having a guy like Soto.
- [127:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [127:24]
Hank
Parachute in.
- [127:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [127:25]
Hank
And then be clutch as in the World Series.
- [127:28]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [127:28]
Hank
And Judge, who's been there and been a great player for the Yankees for a long time, have him still not be able to do anything in that big of a moment. That's. It makes it more glaring.
- [127:37]
PFT Commenter
He makes it more obvious and he's like. And he's just. It feels like. I mean, it's because he's batting third. I don't know why they don't drop a max. Why don't they drop him?
- [127:46]
Big Cat
Well, then you really kill his confidence.
- [127:48]
PFT Commenter
But every big moment in the first two games, Aaron Judge has come up and he's been a zero.
- [127:55]
Big Cat
But you need it like the Yankees need Aaron Judge to give you something. If you're going like, if.
- [128:01]
PFT Commenter
But every time he comes up, you're like, damn, I wish this was Giancarlo. If you're a Yankee fan. Yeah.
- [128:06]
Big Cat
I mean, you could drop him, the four. That would be fine. That would be fine. But I don't.
- [128:10]
Hank
I don't like this whole. Don't. You're going to kill his confidence if you make him hit in a different place in the lineup. Why? Because then it's like, okay, then you weren't that confident to begin with.
- [128:19]
Big Cat
If baseball is such a. Like, baseball. Such a mental game, like, everyone, like, when you're in a slump, you are very fragile, and you just gotta.
- [128:27]
PFT Commenter
You Trey Turner, you gotta congratulate him.
- [128:30]
Big Cat
You gotta hit your way out of it. Like, there's nothing. There's nothing you can really do other than just, like, try and hit your.
- [128:36]
Eddie
Way out of it.
- [128:36]
Hank
But what's. What's more important, having. Having Judge, like, be well mentally or putting him further back in the lineup so he's not doing as much damage to you by having him hit sooner in the order. It's the World Series.
- [128:48]
Big Cat
Yeah, but. But you're. Are you just gonna punt? Like, potentially your best player, but maybe.
- [128:54]
Hank
He wakes him up or it should.
- [128:57]
Eddie
Be potentially your best players. The World Series is your best player or not. He's playing like shit.
- [129:00]
Big Cat
But baseball is so different. Like, you can be the best player in the world and be so. And be playing poorly. Like you. You just gotta, like.
- [129:10]
Eddie
I feel like playoff averages are pretty good representations of. Of your playoff performance. It's not like a fluke.
- [129:18]
PFT Commenter
No, he's been bad. He's not having a wild series.
- [129:20]
Big Cat
I know.
- [129:21]
PFT Commenter
I. He's been bad all playoffs.
- [129:24]
Big Cat
I don't disagree with that. I'm just saying, like, that's the only reason why I wouldn't do that.
- [129:30]
PFT Commenter
I love our good friend Tommy Smokes. He's gone. He's gone back to the dark side. He's trying to be positive all year. And I don't know if you guys have seen, but he's gone back to the dark side. And his. His tweets are very funny because he's just. He's ruthless about the Yankees. He was calling. Let me. Let me find it. That game falls on Aaron Judge in his pathetic 9th inning at bat. Volpe2 Soto showed up and nobody else. Too little, too late. Just not a serious team, I guess. At least we're heading back to the Bronx. Oh, you know, what was the one? He had one with Carlos. Did he delete it? He called him a fat pig.
- [130:09]
Hank
He's.
- [130:10]
PFT Commenter
He's like. Just basically like, he's not ready for this moment. He's a fat pig. They're just. Yankee fans are brutal. Then you had the. The scene at Billy's. Right. The bar in the Bronx where they were cheering when Shohei got hurt. I have no problem with that. Yeah.
- [130:28]
Eddie
At a bar.
- [130:29]
Hank
If it was. If it's.
- [130:29]
Eddie
If it's a crowd they paid tickets to go to, it's one thing. But at a Yankee bar in the.
- [130:35]
PFT Commenter
Bronx and you're also so desperate for anything. Like, maybe don't cheer, but, you know, they're all happy. Like, that's just how fandom works.
- [130:44]
Hank
Yeah, but it's all. You can think that. And also think that's beneath the Yankees.
- [130:49]
PFT Commenter
No, I think they're desperate. I think they're in a. Desperate.
- [130:52]
Hank
Yeah, but being desperate is beneath the Yankees.
- [130:54]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [130:54]
Eddie
I got tremendous joy out of the fact that game one, Aaron Boone made like, you know, it's the players, but the manager basically cost him the game. And, and game two, by putting someone in who hasn't played meaningful baseball in a month. And then game two, he just did the same thing, but with a batter.
- [131:13]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yeah.
- [131:14]
Eddie
It was. It was insane how he let him get himself in that spot two games in a row.
- [131:19]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Game one, when he. When he put on. Put in Cortez, it was just like, what are you doing, dude? Two pitches.
- [131:26]
Eddie
He's like. He's been pitching good.
- [131:28]
PFT Commenter
It's. Here's the. Here's the bottom line. The Dodgers are just so fucking good. They're so goddamn good. Their bullpen's insane. Their. Their plate discipline is insane. Like, if they don't swing, it's. It's. It's going to be a ball. I. The, the game one ump was horrendous, but they're just. They're just a wagon. Like, you can't make a single mistake with the Dodgers. And as bad as Aaron Boone's been and Aaron Judge has been. I don't know. I don't know who's beating The Dodgers right now, right?
- [131:57]
Hank
Yeah. I mean, Ohtani is going to be a big factor.
- [132:00]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. But I still think they'll probably beat him. I don't know. Tommy. Tommy Edmond. Guy just makes big, gets big hits. They just got. They just got dudes everywhere. Okay, should we wrap up with some who's back of the week? Who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends, of course. Light. Dude. No matter what happens between your favorite rivals this week, you've got a chance to win. Just go to the PMT Instagram, tell us how you prepare for a rivalry game with Coors Light for an opportunity to win the Coors light rivalry shirt. Five winners will be selected every Saturday until 12 7. So remember, when rivalries get a little overheated, choose chill and keep things cool by reaching for the mountain cold refreshment of Coors Light. Coors Light is mountain cold refreshment. Literally made a chill. Coors Light is cold lagered, cold, filtered, and cold package. It's as crisp and refreshing as the Rockies. Perfect for a moment to unwind. We love Coors Light. We love chilling with Coors Light. Even the biggest rivals agree. When it's time to cool things down and enjoy the game, you choose chill and then reach for Coors Light. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit coors light.com take or you can find it pretty much anywhere that sells beer. That. That's Coors Light.com take Celebrate Responsibly. Coors Brewing Company, Golden, Colorado. Coors Light.com/take who's Back the Week?
- [133:15]
Eddie
Hank, my. Who's back the week is shorts.
- [133:20]
PFT Commenter
Oh, you seriously don't have a single who's Back of the Week?
- [133:23]
Eddie
I was gonna talk about baseball. I also. I mean, I. We just saw a commercial for Krispy Kreme. McDonald's collab.
- [133:30]
Hank
Yeah.
- [133:31]
Eddie
Which has had my head in a pretzel for the last hour with this.
- [133:34]
Hank
Back the buns or donuts?
- [133:36]
Eddie
I don't know. It looks. I. I was blown. It's like the, you know, the Avengers and the Justice League getting together.
- [133:42]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [133:42]
Hank
Yeah. It's pretty incredible. Looks delicious.
- [133:44]
PFT Commenter
It's.
- [133:44]
Hank
That's one of those things that people always talk about, like, oh, they get this burger. It's got donuts as the buns, and it's usually at a place that just does Instagrammable brunches. Like, they make their dishes so that you can take pictures of them, not so you can eat them. I've. I've had some bad experience, like, not bad But I don't think that it's. I would rather have a hamburger and then a donut on the side, but I will try this.
- [134:04]
Big Cat
Duke's back. Hank.
- [134:06]
PFT Commenter
Oh. What happened with Duke?
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Eddie
They beat Arizona State by 50 in a scrimmage.
- [134:12]
PFT Commenter
Scrimmage? Arizona says bad.
- [134:17]
Eddie
Yeah. Doopie to my 50.
- [134:18]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Okay.
- [134:20]
Hank
How'd Cooper look?
- [134:22]
Eddie
I don't know.
- [134:22]
Big Cat
This was also a scrimmage, but they won 103 to 47.
- [134:28]
PFT Commenter
Okay. That. They might be back.
- [134:30]
Big Cat
That's a. That's insane.
- [134:31]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, they might be back. God damn it. They might be back. This is gonna piss me off.
- [134:38]
Eddie
I'm not gonna go back to being like, I'm. I can't. I can't fake it. I feel like I've made my. My claims pretty. Pretty steadfast with Duke. Like, I'm not going to go back and hop all the way back on the bandwagon this year. I'll just say it.
- [134:53]
Hank
You're not excited about this, but.
- [134:55]
Eddie
No, always root for them. But, like, I'm not going to. I'm not going to be beating the drum for Duke basketball.
- [135:02]
PFT Commenter
But.
- [135:03]
Eddie
But I will root for them more than I root for anyone else.
- [135:06]
Hank
Okay, that's fair. That's fair.
- [135:08]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's fair.
- [135:09]
Hank
Very fair. Hank.
- [135:11]
PFT Commenter
Pft. Who's your. Who's back?
- [135:12]
Hank
My who's back of the week is Pop Punk is playing in New Haven.
- [135:16]
PFT Commenter
Oh, hell, yeah.
- [135:17]
Hank
On Friday night. So I hope the World Series will be over by then. I think that's when game six would be. Right.
- [135:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [135:24]
Hank
There's the night of game six. I think some people from the New York office are gonna go out. We're gonna take a bus from New York, but it should be a fun time. We're playing Toad's Place, which is one of those awesome venues that we. Yeah, it's cool.
- [135:35]
PFT Commenter
You playing Friday night.
- [135:36]
Hank
Friday night.
- [135:36]
PFT Commenter
Friday night.
- [135:37]
Hank
Friday night out there.
- [135:38]
PFT Commenter
Nice.
- [135:38]
Hank
And you sit backstage at that spot and you see, like, the Beatles on the wall. You see, like, the Rolling Stones. It's a very, very cool place. So very excited to go where you're.
- [135:48]
Eddie
Gonna get pizza from.
- [135:49]
Hank
So we had pizzas from two places last time. What is Rosie's one of them?
- [135:53]
Eddie
Rosie's? Sally's. Yeah. Frank Pepe's.
- [135:56]
Hank
Okay, so we had. I think last time we had Sally's and Frank Pepe's. And am I allowed to say I like both, or do you have to pick one?
- [136:02]
Eddie
No, of course. I mean, they're both fantastic.
- [136:05]
Hank
They're awesome. Awesome. Yeah, they're awesome. So I'll be eating a load of pizza, but, yeah, it should be fun. I think we got tickets on sale now, and we're doing a costume contest because it's the night after Halloween.
- [136:14]
PFT Commenter
Oh, hell.
- [136:15]
Hank
500 prize to the best costume, and I'm going to match 500 of my own cash so you can win a thousand bucks. Best costume?
- [136:23]
PFT Commenter
Hell, yes.
- [136:24]
Eddie
What are you gonna be?
- [136:25]
Hank
I can't tell you that.
- [136:28]
PFT Commenter
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
- [136:30]
Hank
I'm gonna go as Jaden. How you get problematic.
- [136:32]
PFT Commenter
Be careful. Be careful.
- [136:34]
Hank
Get problematic.
- [136:37]
PFT Commenter
My. My who's back? My who's back is the ufc, because did you guys see that guy who got his jaw wrenched harder than anyone's ever gotten their jaw wrench? Yeah, that was crazy. Hamzat Kamaev did that to Whitaker, I want to say. And he basically just shattered his jaw with a choke out. And I don't really understand how it happened. He tapped so quick, and he. Like, they showed a picture the next day. His jaw is just completely.
- [137:08]
Hank
Did you see that. That video of. I think it was at the weigh in, there was a guy from, I want to say Kazakhstan that just showed up and got on the mic to ask a question. He's like, I am undefeated fighter from Kazakhstan. I'm five zero, Dana White. Please give me an opportunity to fight on short notice. I will fight anyone. 1. And then Dana, like, sized him up and was like, what weight class are you? And he was like. I think he said lightweight. And he's like, okay, I'll give you a fight.
- [137:32]
PFT Commenter
Holy.
- [137:32]
Hank
Saw him? Yeah. Just got him up on stage. It was like, you look like you can fight. The guy had colorful cauliflower ears. So Dana just looked at that was like, yeah, it. If you win a fight, then I'll give you an actual fight.
- [137:44]
PFT Commenter
Oh, man. That's incredible.
- [137:46]
Hank
Pretty cool. Yeah. I'm rooting for that guy, whatever his name is.
- [137:49]
PFT Commenter
All right. We got anything else? I've moved on. Not actually. I'm not. I have not moved on.
- [137:59]
Eddie
You've moved on for tonight. Tomorrow probably doesn't get much better.
- [138:03]
PFT Commenter
No, I'm gonna wake up tomorrow just.
- [138:05]
Eddie
So mad because also game, especially game like that, you are gonna. It's gonna get brought up to you when you don't want it to.
- [138:12]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah.
- [138:13]
Eddie
The next week.
- [138:13]
PFT Commenter
Oh, yeah. Oh, it's gonna be. Yeah.
- [138:16]
Big Cat
Especially in this all. There's nothing worse coming. Coming into the office after a bad loss, it's like every person I know, like, you just lost a family member.
- [138:25]
Eddie
I know.
- [138:26]
Big Cat
Don't say I know like that, Hank.
- [138:29]
Hank
What loss were you thinking of? Hank? When does that happen to you?
- [138:34]
Eddie
Bruins last year against the Panthers.
- [138:40]
Hank
You're an Hank. I love you.
- [138:43]
PFT Commenter
All right. Good show, boys. Numbers 19, 5, 11 memes.
- [138:51]
Max
You want it?
- [138:54]
Hank
Pass three.
- [138:56]
PFT Commenter
I was giving it to you.
- [139:02]
Max
I'll go 99.
- [139:05]
PFT Commenter
All right.
- [139:08]
Hank
I like it. 15.
- [139:12]
PFT Commenter
No, we had 12. 15.
- [139:17]
Hank
Love you guys.