NFL With Fred Smoot In Studio, Week 3 Picks And Preview, Bills Start 3-0 + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Summary

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Pardon My Take - Episode Summary

Podcast: Pardon My Take

Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Episode: NFL With Fred Smoot In Studio, Week 3 Picks And Preview, Bills Start 3-0 + Fyre Fest Of The Week
Date: September 19, 2025

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Episode Overview

This lively episode brings ex-NFL cornerback Fred Smoot into the studio for a candid interview about the state of the NFL following Week 3 action, including big storylines like the Bills’ 3-0 start. The hosts dissect Thursday Night Football, deep dive into their weekly picks and betting trends, discuss backup quarterback turmoil, and offer up classic PMT banter about the best and worst of sports and pop culture. Fyre Fest wraps up the week with some personal misadventures—mostly, car trouble—as always, with laughs and self-deprecation.

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Segments

1. Thursday Night Football Recap: Bills vs. Dolphins

• Bills start the season 3-0 after a controlled win over the Dolphins.
• The crew analyze Tua Tagovailoa’s struggles, Miami’s surprising competitiveness, and praise the Bills' offensive line.
  • “The Bills are in that mode that they don’t have to play perfect and they can still just kind of casually beat you by 10 points.” (Big Cat, 05:56)
• Tua’s disappointing stat line is mocked with the trademark PMT flare.
  • “It was the classic Tua... I'm just going to throw it right to him.” (Memes, 04:01)
• Discussion of viral moments from the game (e.g., shirtless Bills fans) with signature Barstool irreverence.

⏰ [04:00–10:30]

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2. NFL Week 3 Big Picture: Upstarts, Quarterback Mayhem, and Matchup Previews

• Backup QBs making headlines: Jake Browning, Carson Wentz, Marcus Mariota, Tyrod Taylor, among others, are all likely to start.
• Discussion of Bills' offensive versatility, concerns with injuries (e.g., Matt Milano), and whether they need a star gamebreaker at receiver.
• Dolphins’ fight after a rough start gets the crew’s respect (but not their betting dollars).

Notable Stat:

• “0-2 teams vs 1-1 teams are 70% against the spread since 2010. There’s some juicy ones!” (Big Cat, 27:00)

⏰ [10:30–28:30]

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3. In-Studio Guest: Fred Smoot - Unfiltered NFL and Life Talk

• Comfortable with Commanders’ backup Mariota: “As much as I'm worried, I know we got a gatekeeper, and when you have a gatekeeper, you have a chance.” (Fred Smoot, 95:08)
• On QB injuries: Fred reassures Commanders fans that the new turf at FedEx will help, and shares advice gained from his own career.
• Smoot’s take on defensive back “kisses” (celebrating overthrown balls you had no business breaking up): “That means we were kissed by the football gods. We didn’t do everything right... and you see us don’t hesitate. We talking trash like it was locked down coverage.” (Fred Smoot, 111:25)
• Hates pumpkin, loves sweet potato pie, rants about American seasonal traditions.
• Riffs on defensive celebrations, the importance of DB trash talk, and dealing with adversity in the NFL.

Memorable Smoot quote:

• “You just gotta get the first win. We don’t care how—hell, the hot water, just get the first win... It feels like you’ll never win again.” (Fred Smoot, 101:23)

⏰ [94:12–130:35]

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4. Week 3 NFL Game Previews, Betting Trends & Picks

• The crew go game-by-game with a blend of stats, wild predictions, and fantasy talk.
• Quotes:
  • “Regression to the mean game. I don’t know if the Titans win, but I think they cover—division dog at home.” (Big Cat, 32:19)
  • “Carson Wentz: He does stupid shit, and it’s funny. And if he’s good, that’d be awesome.” (Max, 37:29)
• Trends: Overdogs have dominated early in the season; they search for juicy underdogs and “hungry dog runs faster” team picks.
• Sneaky fantasy nugget: “Josh Jacobs has scored a touchdown in 11 straight games.” (Big Cat, 30:18)
• Discussion of injury reports, matchups with backup QBs, and coaching narratives (including the possible regression of rookie head coaches).

⏰ [28:14–94:00]

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5. Fantasy Minute & Off-the-Rails PMT Banter

• Jerry’s Fantasy Minute: Absurd “advice” like “Stream Caleb Williams because the Dallas D sucks” and “Pick up Najee Harris, his eye is better!”—satirical gold as usual.
• Extended digression on the eternal “tits vs. butts” argument, Halloween as peak ‘boob day’, and what makes talking about bodies timeless and cross-generational:
  • “If I ever come into a day and I’m like, ‘hey guys, you know what? I don’t like tits,’ put a bolt in my head.” (Big Cat, 16:44)

⏰ [91:06–94:00; 16:05–18:30]

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6. Fyre Fest of the Week: The Gang’s Car Troubles & Petty Personal Fails

• Hank’s gym bag is stolen from his car
• PFT falls for a classic parking-lot dent removal scam: “I got got. My car’s still dented, still scratched, and I’m out $250.” (PFT, 139:34)
• Zach is denied van insurance due to admitting his “four accidents”—with the team hilariously grilling him about his driving history.
• Max struggles with dieting and, comically, the perils of “not being able to not drink 20-30 beers” during football season.
• Multiple dental horror stories, wisdom teeth issues, weight-loss woes.
• Classic PMT self-effacing humor makes even the L’s sound entertaining.

⏰ [132:00–147:47]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “The Bills are in that mode that they don’t have to play perfect and they can still just kind of casually beat you by 10 points.”
  Big Cat, [05:56]

• “Carson Wentz: He does stupid shit and it’s funny. And if he’s good, it would be awesome.”
  Max, [37:29]

• On defensive back luck:
  “That means we were kissed by the football gods. We didn’t do everything right... and you see us don't hesitate. We talking trash like it was locked down coverage.”
  Fred Smoot, [111:25]

• “If I ever come into a day and I’m like, ‘hey guys, you know what? I don’t like tits,’ put a bolt in my head.”
  Big Cat, [16:44]

• “I got got. My car’s still dented, still scratched, and I’m out $250.”
  PFT, [139:34]

• “0-2 teams vs 1-1 teams are 70% against the spread since 2010. There’s some juicy ones!”
  Big Cat, [27:00]

• Fred Smoot on backup QBs:
  “When you got a three-layer cake, you can eat the top layer before you eat the second one. Everything will be okay... Mariota layer tastes just as good as the Jaden layer for a short time.”
  Fred Smoot, [95:08]

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Episode Highlights

• Fred Smoot’s storytelling and trademark metaphors ("three-layer cake," "defensive back kiss," "beauty queen with a dead tooth") are a treat. The pumpkin rant should be an annual tradition.
• Extensive, stats-heavy game preview and sharp betting discussion—especially on backup QBs and historic trends.
• Gut-busting “Fyre Fest” segment, especially the saga of car mishaps, from stolen gym bags to falling for a dent repair scam and Zach’s insurance-denying record.
• The gang’s irreverent takes on sports, pop culture, and bodily priorities make for PMT at its most unfiltered.
• Underneath the comedy, nuanced football analysis: matchup breakdowns, injury impacts, and how locker room psychology works when teams are 0-2 or 0-3.

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Useful Timestamps for Key Segments

• Bills/Dolphins Recap: [04:00–10:30]
• NFL Big Picture, Backup QBs: [10:30–28:30]
• Game-by-Game Preview: [28:14–94:00]
• Fred Smoot Interview: [94:12–130:35]
• Fyre Fest Segment: [132:00–147:47]
• Fantasy Minute: [91:06–94:00]

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Final Thoughts

This episode perfectly captures what makes PMT a cult favorite: sharp NFL analysis, a packed studio of personalities, and the ability to pivot seamlessly from All-22 breakdowns to over-the-top rants about Halloween, fantasy football, and life’s endless small disasters. Fred Smoot steals the show with expert insight and pure entertainment value, while the hosts deliver their offbeat—but sneakily sharp—commentary on everything happening in the NFL and beyond.

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For anyone who missed it, this episode has you covered from the Thursday night highlights to the deep cuts of NFL backup quarterbacks, with enough inside jokes, stats, personal stories, and smutty tangents to keep you laughing the rest of football weekend.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, let's go.

[Fred Smoot]

Hey, football guy. Martin might take.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Martin might take.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

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[Memes]

It was bad. It was bad. It was the classic Tua. I have a guy in front of me. Everybody else can see this guy. I'm just going to throw it right to him.

[Big Cat]

There's no way I have a guy in front of me. There's no way another guy will jump in front of that.

[Memes]

Yeah, this is the last, the last thing they would ever expect is for me to throw this pass. Yeah, throw it and catch him off guard. Now, Tua, he was okay earlier in the night. He did complete 22 for 34, 146 yards. I'd like to see, you know those maps that they show like the, the Amazon stats where it's like where the balls went downfield, his completions and his picks. I guess that like 90% of them were within two yards of the line of scrimmage. Yeah, three yards of the line of scrimmage.

[Big Cat]

Have you guys seen the viral teacher in Miami who teaches her math lessons based on the Dolphins? She's a Dolphins fan, so she. It's actually. Yeah, it's actually very sweet. She's. She had all the kids pick a team. All the kids have to track the record, do their math. But one of the math things she does every single week is to his quest for 4,000 yards. This is going to be a depressing.

[Memes]

Update yeah, it's not what 140 would say. 146 yards.

[Big Cat]

146 yards. So he's still got a long way to go. I will say the Dolphins had way more life than I expected tonight. They fought hard. If it weren't for a roughing the punter penalty, they could have very easily won this game. And to his interception fought hard, division game, season on the line. Because the Dolphins like looking at their schedule, they have some games they could win coming up. But that feels like, you know, we push it all in to try to play our best, and we came up short because the Bills are just a better team. The Bills are just a really good team. They win efficiently, even like, Josh was very good tonight, but it wasn't like Josh was very good. Yeah, James Cook might be one of my favorite runners to watch at this point, the way he, like, can weave in and out of the lanes.

[Memes]

Their offensive line played awesome tonight too.

[Big Cat]

Their offensive line's one of the best in the NFL. But it's. It does feel like the Bills are in that mode that they don't have to play perfect and they can still. They can still just kind of like casually beat you by 10 points. I know it was a seven point game until the end with the field goal. That's the.

[Memes]

Over the. The Dolphins. I'm surprised. I'm pleasantly surprised with the Dolphins tonight.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they like.

[Memes]

This is. This is a game where everybody expected them to go out and get their ass kicked.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Memes]

Have them lose by like 30 points. The dolphins have not quit.

[Hank]

This is.

[Memes]

They have not yet quit on the season. They're at a point where I think a lot of people expected them to quit. They played really hard tonight. They played pretty decently. Like, they managed the game well. They could have won this game. There were a couple bad mistakes that they made. If some things break their way, it's a different final result. I was pleasantly surprised.

[Big Cat]

You know what this is? This is a clap it up for the NFL. Yeah, clap it up for the NFL. They made a pretty good league where there's pros on both side of the ball and you're never, you know, even the best teams versus what might be one of the worst teams. They're still closer than we realize. And yeah, I don't know where the Dolphins go from here. Get a little rest.

[Memes]

I would like to see that guy, Ollie Gordon, get the ball a little bit more. Yeah, Ollie Gordon is fun to watch too. He's a big dude.

[Big Cat]

Oklahoma State. He. He was the one who gundy I think he. Did he get a dui or did I get that wrong?

[Memes]

Was he the guy where Mike Gundy was like, I've driven.

[Big Cat]

I've done. I've driven DRO many times of times.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm pretty sure it was Ollie Gordon.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He was arrested on suspicion.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Not to bring up a bad moment in Ollie Gordon, but it was more because it's just very funny that Mike Gundy admitted to, like, thousands of dui.

[Memes]

And he's Ollie Gordon ii, not Ollie Gordon Junior.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[Memes]

What's the difference?

[Big Cat]

Don't know. His dad's Ollie.

[Memes]

His dad's Ollie Gordon.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[Memes]

Why isn't he Junior, though? Why is he.

[Big Cat]

Because he's the second.

[Hank]

There's two of them.

[Memes]

I don't get it, Hank. Do you know?

[Hank]

I don't.

[Big Cat]

I think you just get to choose Ollie Gordon 0.20.

[Hank]

I think you.

[Big Cat]

I think. You know what it might be. I think it's maybe like one of those situations where he's already agreed to name his future child Ollie Gordon, because that would be the third.

[Hank]

Got it.

[Memes]

Got it. So he is. He's required.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's like, I got this, Dad. I don't worry. I will do Ollie Gordon. Another Ollie Gordon. Ollie's kind of a cool name.

[Memes]

Ollie's an awesome name. He should name his kid Ollie Gordon to Junior.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

His dad would be pissed off about that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But, yeah, good game. Bills are. I mean, Pete Prisco told us this before the season started. The Bills, obviously, again, any given Sunday. But the Bills will be favorites in all their games going up against. Going up until the Chiefs, which will be favorites in that game, too, because it's in Buffalo. Their schedule, they're going to rip off some wins. They're going to rip off some wins. I'm saying, though, that's why that Ravens game was so huge at the beginning of the season.

[Memes]

The schedule is awesome. It breaks awesome for the Bills right now. The one concern I would have. I don't know if you feel the same way. The running game, obviously, very good. Offensive line, awesome. Josh Allen, mvp, very excited about that. Their receivers, they don't really have, like, a game breaker.

[Big Cat]

See, I think.

[Memes]

Do they need one?

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

I think the way they spread the ball around, I mean, look at just who caught. There was like, seven guys that caught at least two passes tonight. Six guys was seven maybe, but, like, yes, six. Their. Their tight ends are good. I love Shakir. Keon Coleman's coming along. Like. Yeah, I don't think it Matters because they do have the Josh Allen and an awesome offensive line. It's the meme you can have anyone running out.

[Memes]

I do think that Shakira is still very, very underrated.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And they're. And their defense. They're missing at Oliver tonight. Who else are they missing? I think they were missing tomorrow.

[Memes]

Matt Milano.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That is that. It does feel like. It's crazy to say week three, but it just. It does feel like the Bills are basically like, hey, can we stay healthy? That's it.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I mean, how bad is Matt Milano right now?

[Big Cat]

He's. He's always.

[Zach]

He's got a peck.

[Big Cat]

He's always.

[Memes]

He has a peck.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's always got something.

[Memes]

But is that. But this isn't like the Matt Milano last two seasons type injury.

[Hank]

Right?

[Memes]

He's just out temporarily.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Out temporarily.

[Big Cat]

I gotta. I gotta take real quick about this game. It's not really about this game. We did see some Bills fans with their shirts off. There's one guy that looked like peak male body, just like the perfect amount of fat. And I say that in a loving way. I don't think you should get to take your shirt off in Buffalo until it gets cold.

[Memes]

Yeah, it's stolen valor. Anyone can do that, right?

[Big Cat]

Or at least maybe don't show them. I treated the pick. The guy, I mean, he really does. Like.

[Hank]

He's.

[Big Cat]

He's got a great body. He's probably got the best body on this podcast.

[Memes]

It's kind of like oldie.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's just kind of a beast of a. Of a man. Fat in all the right places. No, not that guy. Keep going, Keep going. There he is.

[Memes]

Yeah, that's strong. He's bigger than old.

[Big Cat]

That's a. That's a.

[Hank]

That.

[Big Cat]

That's a guy who 500 years ago was a king.

[Max]

I'm looking to get to that.

[Big Cat]

Shout out. That guy, probably a listener. He looks good.

[Memes]

He looks kind of like a mix between.

[Big Cat]

Like, he looks strong, sturdy.

[Memes]

He took everybody on the podcast and morphed him into one person.

[Hank]

Yeah, that's.

[Memes]

That's this guy.

[Big Cat]

That's us. That's a. Pardon my take altogether. All right, real quick before we get to our week, three picks and preview, and we have Fred Smooth coming up. Did you see the news, Max? Adam Schefter tweeted out. It was mere minutes ago. Why don't you pull it up and read the headline for us? Max reads.

[Max]

I don't want to read this.

[Hank]

I don't want to read this.

[Max]

This is mean.

[Memes]

I Can read.

[Big Cat]

No, it's not mean.

[Memes]

Max.

[Big Cat]

Read the headline. You're not going to care. You're going to say, I don't fucking care. Stop it, bro. Stop it.

[Max]

NFL is instructing its officials this week to call the tush push tight going forward. Yeah, whatever.

[Memes]

Don't care.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

Maybe it means, like, they're going to call it tight. Like, it's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Like, that is like.

[Memes]

Like, tight play.

[Big Cat]

That is like 14% of your plays.

[Max]

Yeah, we'll still fucking get it.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Okay. But there will be some penalties. Like, that could be the difference between winning and losing a game. If they call of offsides.

[Max]

Fourth and one, they're going to be disciplined. I trust my boys.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

This is. This is the death knell of the Tush. But I'm just so sick of talking about it. I just wanted to, like, either just let it keep going and let's never talk about it, or ban it and never talk about it that way.

[Memes]

So the vice president of officiating said, we want to be as tight as we can be. When we get into the situation where teams are in the bunch position and we have to officiate them being on sides, movement early prior to the snap. Looks like we have movement by the right guard. We also movement coming from across the defensive side. This is a very hard to officiate. I get it.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, by the way, we forgot to mention, speaking of officials, Josh Allen technically kind of fumbled at the end of the first half.

[Hank]

He did, Yeah.

[Memes]

I. I called that in real time because I saw him. He got the snap, fumbled it as he kneeled, then got off his knee, recovered the ball, threw it to the ref. I would have liked to see the ref do the. Do the Olay.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Like, jump out of the way.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's such a catchable ball. Spirit of the game. He gave himself up, but, yeah, he's got to tighten that up. Yeah, he wasn't kneeled down when he had the ball. Oh, maybe he was. Oh, they would have reviewed it and they would have actually said, oh, I don't know. I don't know, Jim. Yeah, it looks like he has it with his knee down. Yep, he's knees down.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

He had it. Never mind. Scratch that from the record. Great, Neil. Josh. It's close enough, though, that it was fun to debate.

[Memes]

Yeah, it's a little ray of sunshine if you're a Dolphins fan. You're like, actually, we got fucked by the refs. It wasn't the running into the kicker. It wasn't the interception. That's the most interception of all time. It's the fact that at the end of the first down, Josh Allen didn't properly give himself up.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I had one last thing. I'm just very. We talked about this on Wednesday because, Max, the Phillies clinched. The Cubs clinched on Wednesday afternoon, then almost got no hit on Thursday night, which would have been like, the only time that you can be like, hey, hand up. We got no hit is because you were partying all night. But it just got me so pumped for October baseball.

[Memes]

I.

[Big Cat]

Seeing the boys celebrate just got me so pumped.

[Memes]

I love Shoto. What he said.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah.

[Memes]

He's like, the trick is you actually absorb more of the champagne through your skin.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And then he just had his boys just hose him down with champagne.

[Big Cat]

It was awesome.

[Memes]

Let it marinate.

[Big Cat]

But it, like, that was the first moment because the Cubs are kind of in a weird limbo of they aren't going to win the Central, but they're so far up on the wild card, they clinch the wild card, and it was just like, okay, this is going to be awesome. Little home playoff games for. For the start. Going to try to go to every game. I'm ready for October baseball. It's been a long time.

[Memes]

What everybody think about the champagne? Hank, Is that fine?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No issues.

[Ike]

I have never had issues with celebrating making the playoffs. I never said that.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Just want to make.

[Big Cat]

Never said that.

[Fred Smoot]

I didn't.

[Big Cat]

Princessa never said that. I like your shirt, Hank.

[Ike]

Thank you.

[Memes]

Twisted T. I just thought maybe Hank would be upset because it has to be French to be champagne. It's not French. It's just sparkling wine. Maybe we're botching the name of it. I know you're a big European guy.

[Max]

Could be prco.

[Hank]

Yep. Yeah.

[Memes]

The auto could be cava.

[Big Cat]

But I'm ready. I'm ready for playoff baseball. I'm ready to go, Max.

[Hank]

Phil.

[Max]

I'm not ready. I'm not ready.

[Big Cat]

It's been been a long time since Cubs have been in the playoffs. Five years.

[Ike]

I posted a video in this shirt, and a lot of people were saying, it looks like pft dress me this morning.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's awesome. That's a great compliment.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's one of the best dressers. One of the dressers we have here.

[Memes]

I think I'm a very good dresser.

[Big Cat]

I'll say this about pft. He does get dressed every day.

[Memes]

I've got my style.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And I. I don't care what anybody says about it.

[Big Cat]

If you had it, if you Were keeping score at home, and you had a box said, did pft get dressed. You would check that every day.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

People often tell me they can't believe that I'm 40, and I choose to believe it's because my great skin and youthful demeanor, but it's really just about how I dress.

[Big Cat]

I do love when people try to shame us for being old, and it's like, yeah, dude, it's pretty sick. We get to do this.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I. I had some people doing that when I went on Chris Long's podcast a week ago, and I said, tits are back. The ass. The. The ass boys had their little run, but tits are all the way back, and people are like, bro, you're 50 and you're talking about this? Like, yeah, that's awesome.

[Max]

Also, when do you get too old to talk about.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Hank]

You.

[Big Cat]

Never too old to talk about tips.

[Max]

There's a lot of things that we do here that are, you know, juvenile.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

But tits, everyone, that's just. I hope that when I'm 85 years old, knock on wood, that I get there. I'm still talking about tits with my boys.

[Big Cat]

Facts.

[Memes]

That's how I want to go out.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just be smothered by them.

[Max]

Not them, but talking them.

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

The day. If I. If I ever come into a day and I'm like, hey, guys, you know what? I don't like tits. Put a. Put a bolt in my head. Just end it right there. That'll be my sign. But something's wrong with you.

[Memes]

I. I feel like now the pendulum swinging too far back where butts aren't respected anymore.

[Big Cat]

I don't care. We had enough butt talk. It's tits time. I'm ready for it.

[Max]

I don't hate butt.

[Big Cat]

I don't either. But it did get like, fat. Naturals definitely went away for a little.

[Hank]

They did, yeah.

[Memes]

The swinging one.

[Big Cat]

And now they're. Now they're back, and it's good.

[Memes]

Nice.

[Max]

Shout out. I feel like Sydney Sweeney, she's the one that, you know, she was, like, spearheaded this movement.

[Big Cat]

She was like, what, torch bearers.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Came through and just lit the lamp back.

[Memes]

Yep. Nobody had boobs City Sweeney. Well, she had.

[Big Cat]

Upton was the last time it was cool.

[Max]

True detective Alexandra Daddario. That was. That was a good moment for boobs.

[Memes]

When do you think boobs hit their peak?

[Max]

That may have been. That may have been a deep cut.

[Big Cat]

No, that's not a deep cut at all.

[Max]

Well, I don't know. I didn't get the reaction I thought I was. I Thought I was gonna get.

[Big Cat]

I was just thinking about kb. Our good friend. KB has a. A really good riff that. That you're gay if you know what happens in True Detective after she showed her boobs. Because, like, if you watch her boobs and you don't just stop watching, go jerk off, then, like, who. Who finished True Detective after that moment? I still.

[Max]

That's a good. That's a great take.

[Memes]

I still don't know. I still don't know what happened to the Titanic.

[Hank]

Yeah, right.

[Max]

That was the first boob I ever saw.

[Memes]

It didn't make it to New York.

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

Never made it there. We don't know. I'm so straight. I'm so straight. I turn off the show if somebody know.

[Memes]

If somebody knows where the Titanic is, they're gay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, exactly. You just showed yourself, bro. Yeah, I always get to that point in the movie.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And then I stop.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what happened.

[Memes]

That dude on the sub that imploded. A little light in the loafers, if you ask me.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man.

[Memes]

Call me oldfashioned.

[Hank]

I.

[Memes]

God help me, I still like a good vagina.

[Hank]

I know.

[Big Cat]

We know you do remember that? Was it Mount Rushmore?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

What can I say? Like a snatch.

[Fred Smoot]

You're a huge badge guy.

[Hank]

All right.

[Memes]

I'm the confirmed number one vaginal. Vaginal.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Vaginal enthusiast on this podcast.

[Big Cat]

I miss these Thursday night after Thursday football because we're all so, like, a little bit loopy from the entire week. It's just like, what the. Let's just kill 15 minutes. Talk, vag talk, talk. Jerking off to Titanic.

[Memes]

Well, you know why? Because the game played out pretty much exactly how we kind of had envisioned it.

[Big Cat]

It actually was worse than we envisioned it because we were thinking, oh, we're going to get to record it, like nine o' clock tonight. And then the Dolphins played good enough that we didn't get to do that.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But credits to the NFL, that was a good Thursday night game. We got to remember there's going to be some clunkers on Thursday Night Football.

[Hank]

In.

[Big Cat]

In the spectrum of Thursday Night Football, that was a pretty good game.

[Memes]

I would say it was. It was a competitive game.

[Big Cat]

I didn't say great game. I said pretty good.

[Memes]

It was a competitive, pretty good game. And it kept our attention through four quarters.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[Memes]

Which is awesome. But it was also kind of. I would say it's one of the more boring 31, 21 games that I've seen.

[Big Cat]

Well, because there weren't any, like, big, big, like.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Huge touchdowns.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Ooh, Seattle versus Arizona next week. That could.

[Ike]

Choose your own adventure.

[Big Cat]

That could test us.

[Max]

The next week's good. Not Niners.

[Fred Smoot]

Rams.

[Big Cat]

Niners. Rams good.

[Memes]

But yeah, aren't the Seahawks and. Nope. Seahawks lost the Niners. I forgot about that.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay, we got some top. Oh, oh, oh, Baltimore, Miami. Ooh, Pittsburgh, Cincy. I mean, Philly at New York is not. Oh, oh, Jets, Patriots.

[Max]

That'll be a fun one.

[Big Cat]

That'll be a fun one. That'll be a fun one.

[Ike]

That'll be a fun one. Oh, in the studio.

[Big Cat]

When do the NFL not like Amazon Prime. What's going on?

[Memes]

When do we get the first album? Michaels. Like unofficially quitting on a game.

[Big Cat]

I think I'm going to predict. Go back up. I'm going to say it might be Eagles. Giants. If the Giants no show that game. Yeah, that could be a bad one.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Also if Carson Wentz is still somehow playing in October, that could also be tough.

[Max]

Or it could be great.

[Big Cat]

Dude, shout out Halloween. By the way, showing up on a Friday this year, big time move by Halloween, big time boob day. That's a big time boob day. But big time like Halloween. You rocked it this year. Friday, Halloween, nothing better. Nothing better.

[Memes]

What do you think's a bigger boob day? Halloween or Valentine's Day? I'd say Halloween.

[Big Cat]

Halloween for sure.

[Memes]

For sure. Halloween, the only thing it might be 1:1.

[Big Cat]

Well, July 4th is the only thing they could compete.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Everyone's in a bikini.

[Memes]

Halloween blows it out of the water.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Halloween's big time. Big time.

[Memes]

Can't wait. Guy like me can't wait.

[Big Cat]

I, I like Halloween because I, I like watching my kids. Trick or treat. It's fun. It's fun. Makes me a little teary eyed. I gotta figure out what I'm gonna be for Halloween this year. Maybe I'll just be a boob. Just a giant boob. That'd actually be funny. Probably not appropriate. All right, week three picks and preview and Fred Smoot coming up. Okay, before we get to the weekend preview, game time. The NFL's back. Tailgates pack stands that buzz before kickoff. But getting in nightmare cues, price jumps, getting logged out mid click. All you want is to be there, beer in hand, losing your voice with the crowd. And the game time app gives the advantage back to fans. The hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use. And the game time guarantee means you can Trust you'll get 100% authentic tickets on time and at the best price. Plus, fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. Was looking at tickets for Hank the.

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[Big Cat]

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[Memes]

Love that.

[Big Cat]

Right back.

[Memes]

I think this. We haven't had pizza yet this year, have we?

[Big Cat]

I think we got to maybe do pizza.

[Memes]

Pizza sounds good.

[Big Cat]

Maybe pizza and cheesesteaks.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, so we're going to do it on UberEats. You'll love being able to get all your personal. Yeah, boots, you like that.

[Max]

Grilled chicken.

[Big Cat]

Grilled chicken.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

You'll love being able to get all your personal favorite game day foods delivered on Uber Eats so that you never miss a play. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals all season long only on Uber Eats. All right, boys, week three. Should we talk? So they did it to us again. A little bit. A little bit more balanced in the fact that we have four games in the afternoon, but they did it to us again. There are, I believe, nine games early.

[Memes]

They don't care. They don't care about our schedule. They don't care how many TVs you have. The NFL just knows you're going to watch whatever's on.

[Big Cat]

Just give us what. Like, I was thinking about this more. Why can't we just do a couple.

[Memes]

Staggered starts like college football does?

[Hank]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Memes]

Yeah, do it.

[Big Cat]

Do a noon kickoff. Do a 130 kickoff, right? No, Hank. Why? It's too.

[Ike]

It's. It's too much. Too much to handle.

[Memes]

So I.

[Big Cat]

Too much to handle right now when there's nine games early?

[Memes]

I agree with Hank, because what you'd run into is you'd run into games that are just ending at wildly different times. I like the the pattern in the NFL where, you know, it's the witching hour.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And if you have multiple witching hours, like a late witching hour, an early witching hour, then you don't. You can't lock in and think about me is I gotta lock in, you gotta lock in.

[Big Cat]

But nine is a lot. Yeah, I can handle. I don't know why there's a difference, but eight I can handle. Maybe it's because we have eight TVs.

[Memes]

That's exactly what.

[Big Cat]

Now that I'm saying it out loud.

[Memes]

It'S like there's a shitload of people listening to this right now that are like, I can do four games. Yeah, but eight. You're like, yeah, that's what our issue is. We have eight televisions and it's personally inconvenient for us. Therefore, the NFL should change its policy about eight to nine games.

[Big Cat]

Correct. What do you say, Hank?

[Hank]

I.

[Ike]

My biggest issue is when they only do three games in the afternoon. I don't care as much about the nine at once, but the, the three in the afternoon is. It'll probably happen more times than the end of the season. Like that bothers me. Hank likes no end.

[Hank]

Hank.

[Memes]

He likes it when there's one at 8:30 in the morning.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ike]

No, I don't like that either.

[Big Cat]

We throw the game.

[Memes]

I hate that game.

[Big Cat]

Bears, Cowboys game of the week. Is it? Yeah, in the afternoon. Hey, listen, if.

[Ike]

If that'll be fun to watch.

[Big Cat]

If it keeps going. How we've gone through two weeks. Two through two weeks in a row. Two weeks into the season, the NFC offensive player of the year is just whoever plays against the Bears.

[Hank]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

So this should be a good game for Tack.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Jared Goff, one week two. J.J. mcCarthy, one week one.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That would be such a hilarious streak if every single quarterback.

[Memes]

I'm excited to watch that game, by the way, because there's going to be points. Yeah, there will be points.

[Big Cat]

And maybe there won't be.

[Memes]

No, there's going to be points.

[Big Cat]

But maybe. But that's also what. Wouldn't it be perfect? Bears be like, it's now a clunker. All right, so real big, big picture thoughts, Hank. I know you're going to like this. Cause I know we've been striking out on the hungry dog. I saw some stats like favorites of two weeks. Chill out.

[Hank]

What?

[Memes]

No. All last season too.

[Ike]

No, I won last season.

[Big Cat]

Wait, I'm.

[Hank]

I'm.

[Big Cat]

I'm on your side. I'm about to give you stats that.

[Ike]

We'Ve been striking Out. There's been two strikes.

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's rewind the tape here. Let's rewind. Let's start. Time out. Let's call time out. Timeout.

[Hank]

Timeout.

[Big Cat]

Call it a quick tea.

[Ike]

Let's not chirp the hungry dog to like week 10.

[Big Cat]

What I was saying was, Hank, it's ridiculous. It's like the favorites of six or more are covering every single game. That's crazy. That doesn't happen and it's unfair. That was my point. Got it.

[Memes]

We haven't had any start, no big upsets. LeBron James is still perfect on his moneyline picks, although it's bullshit. Because when I see LeBron talk about his thoughts as a sports junkie, regardless, his own sport that he plays, I follow LeBron's picks. They hit week one, he just didn't do picks for week two.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And now he's back for week three. Okay, that's some bullshit.

[Big Cat]

Picking and choosing, taking a week off.

[Memes]

But he is the moneyline king.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What I was going to say to you, Hank, is zero and two dogs of three and a half or more since 2010 are 64% against the spread. Those teams this week, Dolphins, which obviously we just talked about, Titans, Panthers, Browns, Jets, Saints, Giants. Gross. How about this one, though? 02 teams versus 1 and 1 teams, are 70% against the spread since 2010. Panthers, Texans, Saints, Bears. There's some juicy ones. There's some juicy ones. I'm just saying we also have. This is as early as it feels that we are. We're in week three and we have potentially five backup quarterbacks already starting games.

[Memes]

Yeah, we have a landslide of quarterbacks that are hard to get excited for this week.

[Big Cat]

I will say thank. Thanks to the schedule makers and the injury makers. One of them is a confined backup quarterback.

[Memes]

It's self contained.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, with the Bengals and the Vikings. But we have Jake Browning, Carson Wentz, Mack Jones, possibly Marcus Mariota, possibly Tyrod Taylor, all starting games. So let's get into it. Let's get. Let's go through every single game. We'll start with packers at Browns. Browns 8 1/2 point underdogs over under 44 and a half. Matt LaFleur in September is 176 against the spread. He's also 8 and 1 against the spread in true road games. He's a really good coach. I'm starting to think this coaching thing might work out for him.

[Memes]

Yeah, he's a very good coach. The Browns haven't been as bad as you think that they've been They've had bad turnovers.

[Big Cat]

It was a. It was a misleading final score against the Ravens, as crazy as that sounds.

[Memes]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Really crazy. To say a 4117 is misleading.

[Memes]

You can only push a team so far until they just completely collapse. And the Browns defense has been good. They've gained a lot of yards on offense, too.

[Big Cat]

They have. They've outgoing their opponent.

[Memes]

They've moved the football.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

They are the number one team in terms of yards per game on defense. They're number one overall. And yards per game on offense, they're down there a little bit. But the Browns aren't as bad as you think they might be, but they are in complete collapse. Watch.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Memes]

It feels like they might have hit a breaking point. I think I'm going to bet on them this weekend. I think I will. I think we're going to see more Dylan Gabriel than we saw last week.

[Big Cat]

I don't start them.

[Memes]

They're not ready to tear the band aid off with Joe just yet.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

But, yeah, I feel like they're. They're a sneaky team because you always get some wins or some covers that make absolutely no sense. Teams have been written off.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Memes]

The NFL is a hard league to predict.

[Hank]

It is.

[Memes]

I don't. I don't think that the Browns are as dead as some people think that they are.

[Big Cat]

I got a pop quiz for you guys. This one kind of shocked me. How many weeks in a row has Josh Jacobs scored a touchdown? Pop quiz.

[Ike]

Seven.

[Memes]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Eleven.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Isn't that kind of crazy?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Don't think that's talked about enough. So 11 consecutive games, Josh Jacobs scored a touchdown. The record with A touchdown is 17 for Christian McCaffrey. Remember when he was like, minus 350 if he gets to 12. Here's the guys since 1990 who have scored 12 straight weeks. Christian McCaffrey, our good friend Arian Foster, Emmett Smith, Derrick Henry, and Ladanian Tomlinson. That's some pretty elite company.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Pretty much a sure thing for him going up against the Browns. They're. The Browns just can't run the football. They have no plan to run the football.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Their plan is like, let. Let's let old man Joe throw the ball. Hopefully we catch him and we don't deflect him into the arms of our opponents, but we're not even going to try to run. And then their defense, as good as it's been, they're not turning the ball over at all.

[Big Cat]

On defense, I also like, where are the shots? I want. I want to see Joe. I want to see Joe Flacco take some shots.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Get the pass.

[Big Cat]

Had the shots.

[Memes]

He has not.

[Big Cat]

And let him fucking be Joe Flacco.

[Memes]

This seems like a bad stat for. For Browns fans out there. The packers have dominated the Browns over the course of the rivalry, if you can call it a rivalry. The Browns have not won back to back games against the Green Bay packers since when.

[Big Cat]

Back to back games?

[Memes]

Back to back. Two in a row. 80s in the series. No. Worse.

[Big Cat]

70S, worse 60s, worse 50s.

[Memes]

1955, 1956.

[Big Cat]

Nailed it.

[Memes]

It was the last time that the Browns beat the packers back to back. You can't be in a back to back if you don't start with one.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

So this could be the start right now.

[Big Cat]

This is the dawning of a new era.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Colts at Titans. Titans 4 1/2 point underdogs over under 43 1/2. The Indianapolis Colts have played near perfect. They've scored on 14 of their 16 drives so far this season. They have zero turnovers through the first two weeks this season. Also, the Titans lead the league in penalties with 23. I'm calling this right now as my regression to the mean game.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if the Titans can win, but I do think they can cover because they're a division dog at home and as good as the Colts have looked. And I'm not trying to say the Colts aren't, you know, like two and. Oh, looks awesome. Dana Jones looks awesome. They did beat the Dolphins. The Dolphins are a dead team. And then they needed kind of a Broncos, not meltdown, but mini meltdown to beat the Broncos.

[Memes]

They needed some leverage.

[Big Cat]

They needed some leverage. They needed Bonix to throw that terrible pick. I think the Colts are good. I don't know if I'm buying them, like as an elite team yet. And now they have to go outside and play against the Titans, who are looking for their first win. I'm going to bet the Titans again. I'm sure that. I'm sure what will happen in this game is it will be very close at halftime and then all hell will break loose and the Titans will lose by like 20 points. But I'm going to do it.

[Memes]

Is Mrs. Ursay getting on the headset?

[Big Cat]

She's got to be.

[Memes]

Do they provide her one on a road game?

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[Memes]

I don't know the answer to that. It might. Might inform my betting strategy. But you're right about the Titans and their penalties. Because if you count the penalties that Got picked up because they got declined. They've committed 28 of them. They're minus 119 in penalty yard differential.

[Big Cat]

Yikes.

[Memes]

And they've had 193 penalty yards that were assessed to them. It's like a very well coached team in the Colts versus what appears to be a poorly coached team in the Titans. I also mean, though, I also think that the Titans, they're. They're starting the conversation regarding their head coach.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Memes]

Because he falls firmly into the Ken Weisen Hunt, Mike Malarkey pantheon of kind of forgettable guys that have coached the Titans over the years.

[Big Cat]

And I like Brian Callahan.

[Memes]

I do too.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, I mean, the penalties got to get cleaned up. I just think looking at the Colts, they played perfect football, essentially. You can't play perfect football all the time.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Having fun.

[Big Cat]

Be a turnover.

[Memes]

They. I think that they're. I'm going to call it. They're going to punt in the first half.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

That's a. I wish we could bet on that.

[Memes]

I think they will have over half of a punt in the first half.

[Big Cat]

Over half of a punt.

[Hank]

Yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Hank, can I interest you in the Titans?

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ike]

I like the regression of the mean game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Regression of the mean game. That's what I'm coining it. All right, next up, this is the confined backup quarterback bowl. Bengals at Vikings. Vikings -3 over under is 42 and a half. All of our lines are coming from the DraftKings sportsbook. Here's a fun fact. Carson Wentz will make history on Sunday. He will be the first player to start for six different teams in six consecutive seasons. That's crazy.

[Memes]

The Eagles, the Colts, the Commanders, the Rams, the Chiefs and the Vikings are the teams that can list Carson Wentz as their starting quarterback. Max is back. Max is back on Carson Wentz. I'm not back. I'm never going to be back on Carson Wentz. He bums me out to watch play. His high little knees and his skinny shins and him flailing around in the back in the backfield. And I, I liken him to the. The episode of the Simpsons where they have the monorail salesman that goes town to town.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And he gets everybody excited and then he just leaves it in ruins afterwards. And you're like, why'd we ever give that guy the money? Yeah, it's. It's the one thing that might work out for him. He has been in the building with Kevin o' Connell for what, three months?

[Big Cat]

Not even close.

[Memes]

One month.

[Hank]

How.

[Memes]

How long has he Been. When was the same house been there?

[Big Cat]

Less than a month.

[Memes]

Less than a month.

[Max]

He got signed after training.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

How.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

How. How viral is the Kevin o' Connell quarterback dust that gets put on people? Like, is it. What's the exposure that you have to have to Kevin o' Connell to get fixed?

[Fred Smoot]

I.

[Big Cat]

That was part of my. I like the Bengals because 20. August 24 is not a lot of time to learn the entire offense to be around the guys to get first team reps, which he probably didn't do. Also, I'll say this. I think Kevin o' Connell is a really great coach. I don't know if I'm ready to put him in the. He can fix anyone guy. Sam Darnold obviously had a great year last year, but like, remember two years ago when like, Dobbs. He played good for Dobbs.

[Memes]

Played great.

[Hank]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

But then it kind of.

[Memes]

It wore off.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Nick Mullins, Jaren Hall. Remember the Jaren hall game? That was bad.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So I, I think Kevin o' Connell's a top upper echelon coach. This will be a great test. Can he fix Carson Wentz? Because, like, I, I don't know. Shanahan and McVeigh.

[Hank]

I'm.

[Big Cat]

I'm comfortable saying give him anyone and he can get a way to, you know, like, figure out a way to win a couple games. Them. I don't know. I want to see it.

[Hank]

It.

[Big Cat]

This will be it. If he can do it with him, then I'll put Kevin o' Connell firmly in that group.

[Memes]

I. I'm not ready to say that about cars. I don't. I don't think that Carson Wentz is fixable. I think he's got too. Too much scar tissue.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I also was like, I flirted with the Carson Wentz, like, ooh, maybe. Until I was scrolling Twitter and I saw. Remember the play where he definitely avoided the safety by throwing a pick six in the end zone?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Literally through the.

[Fred Smoot]

He.

[Big Cat]

The whole play was confined to the end zone.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Matt Max is. I don't know why you're allowing yourself to get excited about.

[Max]

I'm excited.

[Fred Smoot]

He's.

[Max]

He's fun quarterback. He's a. He does stupid shit and it's. He's funny. He's funny. And if he's good, that would be awesome.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So Dobbs reminder, the Dobbs thing, it happened for the first two games when he was with the Vikings. He won the first two games and then he lost the next two. One was a four interception game and then he la. He won his last one with the Vikings, that was the three nothing game. Remember that game against the Raiders?

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

So I think again, Kevin o' Connell is very, very good coach. I want to see it. If he can do it with Carson Wentz, that I'm officially putting him like the Matt LaFleur can do it, Malik Willis kind of category, you know, like. Like Sean McVeigh can do it with Baker getting off a plane, those guys, that's a different level. Kevin o' Connell's right below it. Carson Wentz gets you up in that level.

[Memes]

So they. They put out a list of the top 12 backup quarterbacks. Where would you put Jake Browning on that list?

[Big Cat]

I would put him high. He's 4 and 3 as a starter.

[Memes]

Which is what you hope for out of your backup.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Can you go in, keep us around 500.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Memes]

So ESPN had him as second on the list, which is pretty, pretty high. He should be number one.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

But I. I keep going back and forth with Browning because he's not. He's not the most exciting guy to see get in the game, but I think he's able to manage it. Okay. And I think the more I think about the realistic solutions that the Bengals have at quarterback, this is going to be the one. I think we're just going to ride it all out on Jake Browning.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And see what happens after this. Because they. With the signing of Sean Clifford, like, they signed three different versions of Jake Browning, so at least they've got the same system in place if Jake Browning gets hurt.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

By the way, one last thing about Kevin o', Connell, I think he's in, fuck it, full send mode because did you guys see who the Vikings signed? Because if this works with Carson Wentz, he's going to be full, like, hey, hold my beer. Watch me do this.

[Memes]

Desmond Ritter.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If he could do. If he could do Carson Wentz, he's going to try to do Desmond Ritter, and that's going to be fucking crazy.

[Memes]

I can fix that.

[Big Cat]

That's going to be some wild.

[Memes]

I. I would rather have Sam. Hell, I feel like Sam Howell would be a better option for him right now because he will throw the ball.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

By the way, the Vikings. So teams to play back to back night games in first six weeks of the season are one in seven against the spread since 2023. So body clock.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Body clock.

[Memes]

So in. In the week after they played back to back back.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

17 against the spread since 2023.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Just something to throw out there. Steelers are patriots, patriots. Plus one and a half over, under 40. Four and a half. Hank, how you feeling?

[Ike]

I feel excited. I feel like the Patriots are just going to be in shootouts, and this is going to be another shootout. Drake May look great. I enjoy. I think it's just my algorithm. I've gotten into the All22 algorithm, like during the week. The film. The film Twitter.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ike]

And Drake May's film looks has been great.

[Memes]

There are some throws that the film geeks are getting full hard on.

[Big Cat]

Are you a film guy now? I'm not. I just.

[Memes]

It.

[Ike]

It presents itself in front of me and I'm. And obviously I like the Drake May one. So then I think I just get fed more.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm a film guys guy because I watch other people break down film.

[Ike]

I do think it's like. I think. I think it makes no sense because when you just isolate one play, you can make anyone look good or anyone look bad. But I've.

[Big Cat]

I've.

[Ike]

I. It's just. It's gone into my algorithm and I like it.

[Memes]

Are you excited about the Patriots uniforms this weekend?

[Ike]

Very excited.

[Hank]

What are they?

[Ike]

They're the red throwbacks.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Memes]

You do love a red coat.

[Hank]

Yeah, I did.

[Memes]

You root for that? It's natural.

[Ike]

I love the Patriots red jerseys.

[Memes]

What are the Steelers wearing?

[Big Cat]

Just classic road.

[Ike]

It's just classic.

[Memes]

I think they're doing classic road. What do you think about. About the big news? The big Patriots news of the week.

[Ike]

Do tell.

[Memes]

I'm breaking this to you.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you know it. There's a baby in the family.

[Memes]

Cardi B. Yeah.

[Ike]

Oh, yeah.

[Memes]

Stefan Diggs had sex with Cardi B. Ejaculated inside of her while she was ovulating. Now she's pregnant. It's probably a secret marriage. No, it's probably secret.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ike]

It's exciting. Hopefully this, you know, he can get his. His head on right and start, you know, making some big plays, grow a little family.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Time to grow up, Stefan.

[Big Cat]

So you think you're gonna win this game?

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Ike]

Our, like, we. The Dolphins and Raiders are objectively bad teams. And, you know, both games we lost to the Raiders and it was a battle against the Dolphins. I could see us losing this game, but I'm. I'm excited to watch him fight.

[Memes]

Do you know the last time that Pittsburgh beat the Patriots in New England?

[Ike]

2009.

[Memes]

2008. When Brady was hurt.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It feels like Steelers never beat the Patriots.

[Hank]

Yep. Yep.

[Memes]

You think Mike Tomlin.

[Ike]

I'm betting the over in this game. I think I'll be on. I'll be on. Patriots over. Over. Bets for the foreseeable future.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Put the. Put the word out. Okay. Rams, Eagles. Eagles minus three and a half over. Under 44 and a half. This will be made in TV, I think.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Memes]

For sure.

[Big Cat]

I'll agree. This is a big game because obviously could be playoff seating. Rams and Eagles both top of the NFC. Jalen Hurts coming off 253 yard passing. So he's been hot.

[Hank]

What?

[Max]

I didn't say anything.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

So he.

[Hank]

What Was that stat?

[Big Cat]

253 yard passing for.

[Memes]

For Hertz.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's coming off that.

[Memes]

Against who?

[Big Cat]

Against the Cowboys and.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Combined.

[Memes]

Combined passing yards.

[Max]

I don't.

[Memes]

I don't care. I mean, Max, you just gotta lean into. Because Saquon has been awesome against the Rams.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Memes]

He's destroyed the Rams.

[Big Cat]

I have the stats. You have the stats?

[Memes]

I got some of the stats. Which one were you going to?

[Big Cat]

I was going to just say all of them, but go ahead.

[Hank]

You go.

[Memes]

You go first.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

He's had two games last year, 460 yards, four touchdowns, 8.8 yards per rush, and he's had touchdown runs of 62 yards, 78 yards, 70 yards, 72 yards.

[Memes]

So 460 yards.

[Big Cat]

That's insane.

[Memes]

4. How is that possible? I saw that stat too, and I didn't look. I didn't. I didn't care to examine it.

[Big Cat]

That's like four. Jalen Hurts passing games.

[Memes]

That's. So it's 460 yards rushing against the Rams.

[Big Cat]

Means like that one.

[Memes]

That was good. That was good.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Or how does that break down?

[Big Cat]

But guess what? Pft. I don't know if you know who the Rams have now. Puna Ford.

[Memes]

They do have Puna Ford. Huge, huge get for them.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I don't know if the Rams are. Are good or I don't know if they've played against bad teams.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I.

[Memes]

Cause you. It's impossible to tell with Rams. We'll talk a little bit with Smooth about it later.

[Big Cat]

You could say the same thing for the Eagles, though.

[Memes]

The Rams. Yeah, that's true. Good point. The Rams don't blow teams out in the regular season, in the playoffs. Last year they blew out the. The Vikings, but they just don't do it. You can go back, like, I think two seasons, you have to go back over two years, maybe three years to find the last time that they beat a team by like 15 points.

[Hank]

Yeah, that was.

[Big Cat]

I said the stat on Sunday. Yeah, it was 2013 or sorry, 2023, week 10.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

So they. They don't blow teams out. We don't know how good they are, but we know. I think we can say that the Eagles are. Are probably good, right?

[Big Cat]

Eagles are very good. They're super bowl champs.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What are you looking at, Max?

[Max]

Zach pulled this up. He just happened to pull up. Jalen hurts his super bowl throwing stats. But that's.

[Big Cat]

Oh, oh, he. He just happened to pull it up. What do we think about the fact that Sean McVeigh tours plantar fascia?

[Hank]

Football guy. Yeah, football guy.

[Memes]

He's didn't miss a practice, right?

[Big Cat]

That sucks.

[Memes]

Is he going to be in a scooter?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Memes]

I would like to see Sean McVeigh on like one of those one legged scooters.

[Max]

I did that in high school.

[Memes]

Sideline sucks. You got a history of that thing.

[Big Cat]

Also, the Eagles have owned the Rams 9 and 1 against the Rams since 2005, dating back to 2005, including the playoffs. And the only time the Rams beat the Eagles was the COVID Year doesn't count.

[Memes]

Max, I got a question for you about the. About the birds are Jalen Hurts and A.J. brown. Okay.

[Max]

This is. We're just going to keep doing this.

[Memes]

Now if you look at the stat like AJ Brown hasn't really done anything and he's, you know, he's a kind of a diva wide receiver and that's a good thing. I think that to be a true number one, you got to have a little bit of shit like that. Is everything okay between them?

[Max]

Yes. He went on like a. He went on someone's podcast and just said it's bullshit that every time he does when they win the game and every time he doesn't touch the ball, people get mad.

[Memes]

I don't think anyone gets mad about that.

[Max]

Yes, they do.

[Big Cat]

Max, I have a good stat for you.

[Max]

Did you know that you just had a lot of good stats?

[Big Cat]

Well, I did.

[Hank]

I. Yeah, I did.

[Memes]

The good news for that relationship is that it looks like Emmanuel Forbes might be guarding A.J. brown this weekend, which would be great for the Eagles.

[Max]

That's your boy.

[Memes]

That never. Never my boy.

[Max]

That's your boy. You love him.

[Memes]

Manny Forbes, skinny legs, never been my boy. He weighs about 130 pounds and he will have a hard time dealing with AJ Brown if that's the matchup.

[Big Cat]

I'm very excited for this game. Jalen hurts in games that he has started and finished. He is 18 and oh, in his last 18 games, they started and finished that's pretty.

[Max]

That's a great.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[Max]

Now that's a hell of a stat.

[Big Cat]

That's a hell of a stat, The Eagles. And he doesn't give a fuck about how they just keep winning. They just keep winning. So. Are you nervous for this game, Max?

[Max]

Yes, I am. The Rams. The Rams are a good team. It's. I'm happy that we're at home. I think that mitigates a little bit of my nerves. Is that the right word there?

[Memes]

Yeah, that was perfect.

[Max]

Nice.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

I should have trusted myself right off the. Right off the rip. The offense is nerve wracking. The offense is nerve wracking because the offensive coordinator has not been too creative with his play calls.

[Big Cat]

Talking about Kevin Petula.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

Great Italian man.

[Big Cat]

I don't like that they named him Kevin. I'm just going to say it. That's not a Italian name. I'm just like, you have the good last name with the vowel. Give us a Tony. Give us a Dom. Give us a Vinnie, maybe a Joey. Joey.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Joey works. Maybe even a Johnny.

[Memes]

A Carmine.

[Big Cat]

Johnny Petula. Johnny Kevin Patula doesn't work. I just say it's an Irish name.

[Max]

Yeah. No, I would like for him to, you know, get into his bag a little bit more for this game because I think the Rams have a good offense. I think there's going to be points scored in this game, and I think we're going to have to keep up.

[Hank]

Keep up.

[Big Cat]

Imagine how many passing yards Jalen Hurts would have this season through two weeks if it was Salvatore Petula calling the place Sally Petula. Sal Petula. Holy shit. I mean, that would be incredible.

[Memes]

Four touchdowns.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Super happy.

[Max]

Don Patula.

[Big Cat]

Don Petula would be awesome. I just. I don't know. Maybe he needs to change his name. Okay, so you're nervous.

[Max]

Yeah, I'm nervous.

[Big Cat]

I think I'm going to take the Rams plus three and a half. I just think it's gonna be a close game.

[Max]

I think so. I. I think that's. That's a fair.

[Big Cat]

And I think the Rams, like we said on Sunday, they maybe kind of woke up a little bit offensively because Stafford wasn't in training camp. But that second half against the Titans, it was like, oh, okay, here we go. Took them a game and a half. They might be ready to go. All right, jets at bucks. Bucks minus seven over under 43 and a half memes. Let's fucking talk right now.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

The Bucks are, by the way, wearing their white creamsicles. Awesome jerseys. Awesome jerseys. I Think the jets can win this game?

[Zach]

They should win this game.

[Memes]

They should.

[Big Cat]

Short week.

[Memes]

We're talking. We're talking rest.

[Zach]

We're not talking rest. Their entire 75% of their offense is hurt.

[Big Cat]

The Bucks.

[Zach]

The Bucks, yes. And Abuka hasn't practiced for two days, so they might be down to one receiver. They're down to one offensive lineman.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You think they should win? They're not going to now.

[Memes]

They were down some linemen on Monday night, too, but then they lost their best lineman after that game.

[Big Cat]

Cody Bach is out for the year.

[Memes]

How long can you keep this up?

[Big Cat]

Three of their linemen who are their starters are out. Are out.

[Zach]

And their left guard is a practice squad guy.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Are you a Tyrod Taylor believer? Excuse me? To Rod.

[Big Cat]

To Rod.

[Zach]

I am a Torod Taylor believer.

[Memes]

Because your coach seems to be the biggest believer of all time.

[Big Cat]

I mean, he's a better quarterback throwing the ball than Justin Fields.

[Memes]

Well, so that's. That's definitely true.

[Hank]

Right.

[Memes]

But what. Aaron Glenn or. Sorry, not Aaron Glenn. What?

[Hank]

What?

[Memes]

Todd Bowles was almost like more of a believer than Aaron Glenn was.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Because Todd Bowles says that he's just as good. He can run just as good as Justin Fields.

[Hank]

I don't know about that.

[Memes]

He says he gets out of the pocket. He's very elusive that way. He knows where to go with football. But he said he can run just as good as Justin Fields. I. I don't know that that part's true.

[Zach]

No, he was running a little bit last week. He's just old and slower now.

[Big Cat]

Well, fun. Fun little wrinkle for this game. Baker Mayfield started his career replacing to Rod Taylor. He came in relief for the Browns seven years ago. I think he brought them. I think they were down like 14 nothing. And they. And Baker came back and won that game. So, yeah, these guys know each other.

[Zach]

They know each other. Tyrod Taylor to Rod is 2 and O against the Bucks. The Jets, I believe, have a winning record against the Buccaneers, too.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Zach]

And I don't think the Buccaneers do well in alternate uniforms. I'll have Zach fact check me out.

[Memes]

We can. We can look that up now. I would say that the. The orange Creamsicles are the better jersey if you have to put them up against the white. Creamsicles.

[Big Cat]

Right. Are pretty nice, though. The whites are so sick because they're, like, understated. The Orange Creamsicles, I love them, but they're obviously. It's a lot of. It's a lot of, like, orange.

[Zach (car accident story)]

It's heavy Cream on the orange ones.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach (car accident story)]

These white ones are a little subtle, kind of a little bit smoother. Good.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Good uniforms. We are extremely hurt. I'm a little bit nervous here. Jets could win this, but I would.

[Fred Smoot]

Like to see the Bucks win.

[Big Cat]

What are you guys gonna do? A mayor's bet?

[Hank]

What do you want? Bet.

[Big Cat]

We got Hank.

[Ike]

I got a clock edition or substitution.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Idea.

[Big Cat]

Give it to us.

[Ike]

Countdown to the 10 year anniversary of the show.

[Hank]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

That's a good one. Yeah, I like that one.

[Memes]

Was that about the jets or the Bucks or.

[Big Cat]

Nope, just.

[Memes]

No, I just.

[Hank]

Fine.

[Ike]

Well, they were brought up the booth and I just.

[Memes]

Yeah, that's a good addition.

[Hank]

I like that.

[Memes]

Yeah. What would you guys bet?

[Big Cat]

Loser has to get a clock. Countdown to their death. And we just pick a random day and then we kill you.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Death clock.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Week three, death clock.

[Big Cat]

Week three, death clock.

[Fred Smoot]

Oh, all right.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's what wants to do.

[Memes]

All right.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Yeah, we'll do. We'll do the math and we'll do like the average lifespan of an American.

[Big Cat]

Male and we'll just bump it up, up. We'll be like, oh, no, you know, 85. 85 years old.

[Fred Smoot]

85'S a great.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's a great number.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Right. But it would also kind of you up seeing it.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Every second matters.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Then you just start thinking about all the things you like, the time you waste. Like if you had an actual clock on it.

[Memes]

That's terrifying.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

It might make you more productive or you just spiral. It's like every second matters to me. I gotta. I gotta be productive. Right. I gotta. I gotta get out there. Live life to the the fullest.

[Zach]

Too productive.

[Memes]

Maybe Too productive.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

You know what Tod's record as a starter is?

[Hank]

No.

[Memes]

28. 28 and one.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I love it.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

For a tie.

[Memes]

I. I thought that he would.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

A T. If it's Tod.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

If he. I thought that he would have more overall starts than that. But we also have to remember that he has, like, the weirdest, freakiest injury history.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Of any quarterback probably to ever play. The time when he got his lung punctured. Getting a painkilling shot by the Chargers team doctor stands out to me. I hope he's healthy. I like watching him play when he's healthy. Memes. Good luck this weekend. I am. I'm rooting for the Jets. I want to see you happy on Sunday.

[Zach]

I want to see me happy, too. I don't think it's gonna happen.

[Big Cat]

They could win this game.

[Zach]

I think they could win. There's a great opportunity for Aaron Glenn especially. There have been some people already turning on him.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man, that's crazy.

[Memes]

Who's turning on him?

[Zach]

The media. He's been one wording the media press conferences.

[Memes]

He's been one wording him.

[Zach]

One wording him or like two wording?

[Big Cat]

He's just like, we got to watch.

[Zach]

Film, like after every single question.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Kalija can't see.

[Memes]

Also out.

[Big Cat]

Also we should shout out sauce. Gardner's been really good. He's back.

[Zach]

He's back. He had a little bit of a rough week last week against Bills. A lot of holding penalties, but good opportunity. You shut down Mike Evans. There's no other receivers, so.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

What is up with the book exactly?

[Zach]

It's a groin slash, hip. So he's been out the past two practices.

[Big Cat]

Groin slash, hip.

[Memes]

And you don't think he's going to.

[Hank]

Play.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Zach, he didn't practice the last two days. He might still play, but I don't. There's no way to know.

[Memes]

Yeah, the question I was getting at is like, who is going to see Brandon Stevens.

[Zach]

Sterling Shepherd, Sterling Shepard and who's it? Tom Miller.

[Memes]

I could see Brandon Stevens locking up Tom Miller now.

[Zach]

He. Brandon Stevens had another play last week that was just like farm fireman to the sun.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach]

The James Cook run. He just gave up.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Pft. Your game. Raiders at command. Oh, by the way, they are. I think they're honoring the super bowl team at the Bucks. I think Gruden's going to be there.

[Memes]

Oh, that's cool.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

So Keyshawn.

[Hank]

Little.

[Big Cat]

Little juice there. Raiders of commanders, commanders minus three over, under 44 and a half. Is it Marcus Mariota time?

[Memes]

I think it's Mariota time. I. I do want to see him play. I. I would love if. I would love it if Jaden was healthy, but I also recognize it's early on in the season and yes, I think back to RG3 and how he tried to play through a sprained knee, sprained mcl, and it didn't end up good for anybody. I. I would like to see Mariota. I think he's probably the best backup quarterback in the NFL. He was great last year. He was awesome against the Cowboys. And this is actually. So for all the talk about Jaden possibly being injury prone, this is the first start that he will miss as a quarterback if he does miss this game.

[Big Cat]

Oh, did he come out of the game against the Panthers?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Yeah. So he. Unlike the third run that he had of the game. That feels like, yeah, we'll start.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

But he didn't miss a start after that because he played against the Bears the next week.

[Hank]

Week.

[Memes]

I think this might be the first miss start of his career. I. I'm actually hoping that he doesn't play this weekend.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I. I personally talk of sophomore slump.

[Memes]

I personally asked him to. I know it's hipaa to discuss his injury problem, but I'm personally asking him to just take it easy.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Just take it easy for everybody.

[Big Cat]

Take it easy.

[Memes]

We're gonna get some Tom Brady discussions because he did call the week one game of the Giants and the Commanders. Now the Raiders are coming to town. But it's a short week for the Raiders and it's a very long week for the Commanders. So we had a mini buy after Thursday night and then the Raiders played late night on Monday.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Memes]

And so I. I personally would take the commanders to cover the spread regardless of who the quarterback is.

[Big Cat]

I would agree with you. It's been a long week for Geno Smith, too. He claims that he watched the film 10 times for Monday night.

[Memes]

There's no chance that's possible.

[Big Cat]

Said it was a tough to watch. Honestly. You can't just flush it. You have to learn from it. Take what they give me. It's that simple. 10 times.

[Memes]

I hope that his big takeaway from watching the film 10 times was give the ball to Ashton Genti.

[Big Cat]

More and Ashton Gent. He said that. He said, I don't think you draft a guy like me to not give me carries and touches. I'm ready for the responsibility. I got to continue to get better. There's a learning curve to the NFL. None of the for. It's very early, but for all the talk about this running back class, no one's popped.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ike]

None of them block.

[Big Cat]

Oh, are you talking about Trayvon?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ike]

And Genti.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Omarion Hampton waiting for him.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Gotta have Scatterbose.

[Big Cat]

Had some nice runs.

[Memes]

Scatter Boo's been awesome.

[Hank]

Yeah. But yeah. Caleb.

[Big Cat]

Caleb. What's his name? Caleb Johnson had the walking away from a touchdown. Yeah.

[Memes]

It's been bad for running backs. We thought that they were back and now every gym's like, that's why. That's why I don't trust any of you guys.

[Big Cat]

Get me a sake 26.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I. I think that they're going to try to feed Genti more because they got to see what they have, right?

[Hank]

Absolutely.

[Memes]

Like, for the most part, when I've watched Genti and he's gotten the touches. He's looked good. He hasn't looked great. But I think they want to see him at the peak of his abilities and be like, is this guy going to be a difference maker?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay, next up, Falcons and Panthers.

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Panthers are probably dead.

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Like, I don't want to bet on the Panthers, but I'm probably going to end up betting on the Panthers because they're five and a half point underdogs at home in a division game. But I think the Falcons are good.

[Memes]

I've got a fix for the Panthers. Stop passing the ball to Xavier Leggett.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Stop throwing to Xavier Leggett.

[Big Cat]

Ted McMillan's awesome because.

[Memes]

So here's a stat. When they threw to Xavier leggette, Bryce was 1 for 8 passing, negative 2 yards and a pick. When he was throwing to anybody not named Xavier Leggett. 34 for 47, 330 yards, three touchdowns, no picks.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Get it to tat.

[Memes]

Get it to tat. I like Xavier. I hope that Xavier is able to have a good season, but right now he's not playing well and the entire offense kind of goes how he goes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think I'd be heavy Bijan on this game. Heavy Bijan. The day the Sports Info Solutions guys gave me a stat that they're heavy. Falcons are heavy zone running team and the Panthers have the worst success rate defending those runs. Yeah, Heavy Bichon.

[Hank]

They.

[Memes]

They love giving him ball at running back. They also love sending him out to like a slot or receiver position and then throwing them.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

The offense runs through Bijan.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so Texans at Jaguars. Jaguars minus one and a half over under 40. Four and a half. This is the ninth final game in the early slate. What are we thinking? Texans have. Listen, the Texans are owned, too, but they also have lost to the Bucks and the Rams. Hungry dog runs faster.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah.

[Ike]

Defense look good.

[Big Cat]

C.J. shroud said they had to. They have to have the hard conversations in the locker room.

[Memes]

What do you think those are?

[Big Cat]

Do you guys want to do a couple hard conversations? I'd like to do a hard conversation real quick.

[Memes]

The hard conversation about the running backs who are named Chubb and Woody. That's probably hard because I actually went back and I. I think that the Texans have led the league in hilarious backfield combinations over the last 15 years. Okay, they've got Chubb and Woody. They had Smelly Johnson. They had Aryan Klutz, and they had David Duke. Oh, they're just addicted to having funny name it is very funny. That line up for him.

[Big Cat]

We need to get a Richard when Joe Mixon gets back.

[Memes]

Yeah, that'd be good.

[Big Cat]

Richard Mixon would be hilarious.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Or Mixon and then at water. Is there an Atwater in the NFL right now, Steve? Get him on there. But yeah, let's have a hard conversation about. About the Texans.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, I was gonna have a hard conversation about the Texas. I just can have a hard conversation. The Ryder cup is out. I think I'm really, really bad at golf, boys. I think I'm ready to admit that I'm. It's not my sport. I don't know what to do.

[Memes]

I was gonna say bad tape out there.

[Big Cat]

The shot tracker on my drive that when like 2 inches was very mean.

[Memes]

I was going to say at least you're having fun out there, but you're not.

[Big Cat]

I was having fun at the tournament. All non golf parts of the tournament. I had a blast hanging with the boys. Like we hung out like we were staying. I think it was me, you wit Kirk biz at a cabin. We hung out every night in the backyard, in the patio. Was so much fun. Soon I had to play golf. Wasn't fun.

[Ike]

I would like to say this when it comes to, and this is in general with golf, because people, people, you know, people are saying you're terrible at golf. People are saying pft is terrible golf. People are saying I'm terrible at golf. They go, all you do is golf. First of all, golf is. It's. It's about having fun with. With your boys.

[Big Cat]

Reminder, by the way, we're having a hard conversation right now.

[Ike]

I guess, I don't know. This is a hard conversation. This is more just a rant. But it's like golf, keep it to hard. Here's our conversation. If you think you're good at golf, you're just as far away from being a pro as we are. 0.0 of being a pro as we do. If you're a 2 handicap or a 25 handicap, we have the same amount of chance of going pro. So that's a fact. And the beauty of golf is the handicap system. You just have to be better than you normally are on average that day.

[Memes]

Yeah, that's it. That is a fact. It's a fact, Hank. It is a hard conversation. Also, alternate shot is the most stressful format, especially if you're teamed up with somebody that's much better than you.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And then you just feel like a raging piece of shit the entire time because you are the entire reason why Your team might not be winning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm a scramble guy. Because then you could just be like, hey, you're not going to get a lot from me. You'll get a couple of, but you're not going to get a lot. Yeah, that's a good point, Booth. You guys want to have a hard conversation? How's the diet going?

[Max]

It's okay.

[Zach]

Down 17 through 2.

[Big Cat]

Max, look at me right now. We're having a hard conversation. We're doing the C.J. stroud. The Texans are having hard conversations right now. It's not easy conversation time. It's hard conversation time.

[Max]

I didn't have a great week, but, you know, it ended up. I. I just didn't. Didn't lose any weight this week. But I barely. I didn't really gain any either. I gained a half a pound. I gained a half a pound. That's nothing.

[Memes]

Also, the week's not over.

[Big Cat]

I barely gained any weight.

[Max]

I mean, gaining a half a pound.

[Big Cat]

Like that, that's basically losing weight.

[Max]

That's nothing. Yeah, and I. And I had a bad week, so, like. But I had some good days mixed in with some bad days.

[Memes]

What was it that did it for you.

[Big Cat]

This.

[Max]

This weekend? I got super drunk one night, and.

[Memes]

Then I woke up.

[Max]

I woke up the night. I. I know. Yes.

[Big Cat]

Like, you. One thing about our guy Max, if you don't let him drink beers, he's gonna die.

[Max]

So, yeah, I woke up the next morning, I was like, at least I didn't drunk eat. And then my fiance was like, you ordered so much Taco Bell.

[Memes]

What you got to do, Max?

[Hank]

You.

[Memes]

You start the night off, and you're like, I'm gonna drink healthy tonight. And you drink a vodka soda for your first drink. And then after that, then you're like, ah, it. I'll just have some beers. But at least you had that first drink as a vodka soda.

[Max]

Yeah, no, I started with two martinis that night, but that's basically a vodka soda.

[Big Cat]

That's what I love about Max, though, because he's just like. I was talking to him about his diet, I guess might have been a couple months ago, and you're just like. I was like, what about cutting out drinking? He's like, I gotta drink, like, 20, 30 beers.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

I mean, especially during football season, it's like, come on, it's. There's nothing better than, like, a Saturday in Chicago going from bar to bar with all of your boys.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Max]

Like, you have a different bar for a different. For the different slate. Everything. All the bets Are together. You're gonna drink 20 beers? Yeah, I'm gonna drink 20 beers on a Saturday.

[Big Cat]

There is not the. The, like, bar hopping, like, the casual bar hopping, when you just. All you do is change, like, a lit. Like the location and. And the angle of what you're looking at TVs by going to a different bar, and you all of a sudden are like, oh, this is a completely different experience. There's. There's nothing bad. Yeah, it's. It's so true. You're like, oh, I got a new. I can stay here for another three hours, and then you switch it again. Another three hours.

[Max]

It's the best.

[Big Cat]

It's the best. All right, what game are we even on?

[Memes]

We're on the Texan Jaguars.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Max]

Down 17, by the way, collectively.

[Big Cat]

Let's go.

[Max]

Zach is a. Being a beast.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was hard Conversations Team Game by PMT Okay, Afternoon slate. Broncos.

[Memes]

Do we want to talk about Brian Thomas at all?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's got. He's got. He's got some bad tape.

[Memes]

Bad tape out there. I've heard. Also this might just be, like, a Twitter rumor that he's going through something personal.

[Hank]

Oh.

[Memes]

In which case that'd be bad. But then Liam Cohen said that he's got a wrist problem.

[Hank]

Ah.

[Memes]

So he might have alligator wrists.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

Not the full arm.

[Big Cat]

We got to get that fixed out.

[Ike]

Hard conversation about Charles Hunter or. Not yet.

[Memes]

He is.

[Big Cat]

He got. That was bullshit. Defensive pass interference.

[Memes]

He's also the leading receiver for the Jaguars. Nine catches.

[Big Cat]

That was a hard conversation. I like hard conversations. TA Strap. Shout out to you. Strap. We're having a hard conversation.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Broncos. The Chargers. Chargers minus two and a half. The over under is 45 and a half.

[Ike]

Regression of the mean.

[Big Cat]

I kind of like the Broncos. I feel like this is one of those games that if. If the Chargers kill the Broncos. The Chargers are just really fucking good.

[Memes]

I think.

[Big Cat]

I think they're very good. But, like, if they kill the Broncos, they're just really fucking.

[Memes]

I think this. We're on stranglehold watch for the Chargers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Three and.

[Hank]

Oh.

[Memes]

All games in the division.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

That feels like we're in stranglehold territory.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Sean Payton did come out and basically took blame for the loss against the Colts, which I. I feel I. You'd be pissed if you're a Broncos fan, but also nice that you can stop arguing about leverage, because he literally came out and said, yeah, that was leverage. And also, I fucked up. I shouldn't have been doing an aggressive field goal block. On a 60 yard field goal. That was my mistake.

[Hank]

Yep, Yep.

[Big Cat]

He said it. And so, yeah, I. I'm gonna be. It'd be very interesting. No, Cleo Mack, obviously. I feel like the Broncos. I'm probably gonna take the Broncos in this game, but it might just be. I watched. Did you guys watch that Quentin Johnson touch? I watched it probably like 15 times. Justin Herbert throwing a 60 yard ball on a rope I don't like. I know there's been a ton of unbelievable passes, but the fact that Quentin Johnson didn't even stop, like, a little bit of his stride, it was just perfection.

[Memes]

I thought you said the fact that he caught it well.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

That it was a perfect pass.

[Big Cat]

He's been catching the ball.

[Memes]

He has been. He's been better this year.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But that thing was like. It was a fucking bomb that somehow floated into his arms as he was running and he never broke stride.

[Memes]

You know what I love about that? I think from that camera angle, it was like a, what, 54 yards in the air?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I don't think it ever left the screen, did it?

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

And it looked.

[Memes]

You could watch the ball the entire time.

[Big Cat]

And it was so like, it doesn't. Justin Herbert has effortless, like, arm strength.

[Hank]

Oh.

[Memes]

It didn't even come close to leaving the screen.

[Big Cat]

No, it was perfect.

[Memes]

That was just a laser beam that.

[Big Cat]

He threw and shout out. The Chargers, I think they finally have realized, hey, we should let our really, really good quarterback throw the ball.

[Memes]

Yeah, let him cook a little bit.

[Big Cat]

Let him cook.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I. I think I like the Broncos too, though. Even though the Chargers have been awesome this year, I just feel like this is. This is a very important game for the Broncos. They can't. They can't lose last week and then not respond from it.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

I want to throw you guys a stat real quick. Player A, Player B, blind resume. Ready for it. Player A. 80 games through their first 80 games. Win, loss, 42 and 38. 62.1% completion percentage, 20,000 yards, 138 passing touchdowns, 100 interceptions. Playoff wins and losses, 0 and 3. Player B, 81 games, 43 and 38. 62% completion percentage, exactly the same. 21,000 passing yards, 142 passing TDs, 45 interceptions, 02 in playoffs, wins and losses. That's Peyton Manning. Justin Herbert. Literally identical.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Now, Peyton Manning played in a different era, but still.

[Memes]

Well, then they had to change the rules so he could win the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But identical start to their careers. Pretty good. If you're Justin Herbert.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Oh, I didn't even realize this. You see, Colin Coward said that. He said I'd make an argument today. The greatest coach in the history of football is not Bill Belichick or Bill Walsh or Vince Lombardi. It's Jim Harbaugh.

[Memes]

That is a hell of a take.

[Big Cat]

Hey, get off our corner.

[Memes]

That was a.

[Big Cat]

That's ours.

[Memes]

Let's talk about it. Let's have the conversation.

[Big Cat]

We're having it.

[Memes]

How many have the hard conversation?

[Hank]

All right.

[Memes]

You got to start out with Super Bowls. So off the top of my head, what are they probably tied in Super Bowls. If you're having this conversation, I'd actually.

[Big Cat]

I. I don't think you have to start Super Bowls.

[Memes]

I think you have to start national.

[Big Cat]

National champions.

[Memes]

How many national championships do they have?

[Big Cat]

Probably Bill Belichick, Bill Washer, Vince Lombardi have. Zero.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Memes]

And then the other guy, I forget probably has a few of them.

[Big Cat]

He has one.

[Memes]

Okay.

[Hank]

But.

[Memes]

So they just probably got the Super Bowls.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but he also. Making Stanford good at football counts as a Super Bowl.

[Memes]

That is. That is actually valid. Yes, I will agree with that.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I think it's a little early for that. Let's have. We love Coach Harbaugh. Let's. Let's have him win a Super bowl first.

[Memes]

Yeah, he would probably tell you to off.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He'd be like, hey, I want to win a Super bowl first. Okay. Saints at Seahawks. Spencer Rattler is.08 as a starter. Will he get his first win this week?

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

You think they're going to win?

[Memes]

I think. I think they're going to win.

[Big Cat]

You think the Saints are going to be the Seahawks? I like. I like it.

[Memes]

I think that they might. Yes.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to take the Saints plus seven. I don't know if they're going to win the game.

[Memes]

Hungry dog, Hank?

[Hank]

Maybe.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Maybe.

[Big Cat]

Okay. It would be, I think, Beast Quake when I. When these two teams play in Seattle.

[Memes]

For sure.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And this would be Spencer's first win.

[Big Cat]

First win.

[Memes]

First win as a starter.

[Big Cat]

First win as a starter.

[Memes]

The Seahawks aren't as great at home as they have been in the past.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, it's been weird.

[Ike]

You want it in the Sarlay?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Can I put that in there?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Let's go. Saints money line.

[Hank]

All right.

[Fred Smoot]

I like it.

[Big Cat]

You're a bold man who.

[Hank]

That.

[Big Cat]

That's a hard conversation.

[Memes]

Me that.

[Big Cat]

A hard conversation you're gonna have to have with yourself on Monday morning is. I put. I bet on money line on Spencer Rattler's never Won an NFL game 0 and 8. That's a hard.

[Memes]

I went back, I watched his series on Netflix. He's got some good film out there, too. It's not just him being a. Yeah, the.

[Big Cat]

The Seahawks have not been as good at home that.

[Memes]

Not as. And they're, you know, still like a better team at home than on the road, but it's not like it was in the early 2000 teens. Yeah. The heyday of it.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Cardinals, 49ers, Cardinals and 49ers. 49ers minus two and a half over under 45 and a half. I really like the 49ers in this game. I'm not buying the Cardinals yet.

[Memes]

Yeah, they've played some bad teams.

[Big Cat]

Well, that and also I cannot, will not, should not bet on a quarterback that took a picture and put on Instagram of him in a Michael Vic.

[Memes]

Jersey with a pit bull with his dog. He said, I saw how it affected people and decided to take it down. I apologize to anybody and whoever I affected. He apologized to you.

[Hank]

Yeah, he did.

[Memes]

But yeah, the picture. He said that he wore the Mike Vick jersey earlier in that day.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Then he went home, he saw his pit bull.

[Big Cat]

Trunks.

[Memes]

Trunks.

[Big Cat]

Trunks. And this is Trunks.

[Hank]

Yeah. Shout out.

[Memes]

Trunks. Trunks. Looks like a very good boy.

[Big Cat]

Wild picture to post.

[Memes]

Now, in his defense, he's wearing a Virginia Tech Mike Vic jersey, which was.

[Big Cat]

Before Bad News Kennels, but there might have been other.

[Memes]

You think Mike Vick was just in it, like, long haul. This was what he was doing.

[Big Cat]

Maybe. I just know. So this is one of those situations where I'm not like, oh, my God, Kyler Murray, like him for life. How could you do that? It's more if your quarterback's making. If this is the judgment of your quarterback, that's a bad sign.

[Memes]

The decision making process.

[Big Cat]

Decision making process is lacking.

[Memes]

You know what this tells me? Kyler's been back online gaming.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Because this is definitely something that, like, you would make a joke to your friends in the Discord Chat, like, hey, you won't. You won't take a picture wearing a Mike Victor. Is he in a pit bull?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And then you go out there and you do it. Yes, I agree. Also, that dog might out outweigh Kyler Murray.

[Big Cat]

Trunks.

[Memes]

Trunks is a big boy.

[Big Cat]

Trunks.

[Memes]

So, yeah, it's a. It's a trunks bet.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You can't. You just can't bet on the Cardinals after that. You can't. Also, here's a fun fact that I was shocked by. Did you know that Kyle Shanahan is 7 and 9 straight up versus the Cardinal. His worst record against any team.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

But I dug into it a little bit more. Kyler Murray is 1 in 3. He's 4. Kyler Murray's 4 and 4 against the 49ers, but he's 1 in 3 against Robert Salah. Being the defensive coordinator on the 49ers. If I've read a bunch of stuff, it feels like the 49ers defense got a little of their mojo back with Robert Salah.

[Memes]

I think they did. And I also think that the Cardinals defense has lost whatever mojo they were hoping to have because they. I think they're down three cornerbacks.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Memes]

That won't be playing in. In solidarity with the Niners who have lost like all their receivers.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Memes]

The Cardinals were like, fair is fair. We'll take some of our guys out too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. Brock Purdy is practicing. Maybe so he might play, but I just roll out Mac Jones again.

[Memes]

Brock Purdy is threatening to play this weekend.

[Big Cat]

He's telling everyone, watch out. Okay. Last afternoon game, Cowboys at bears. Bears plus one and a half over, under 50 and a half. The game of the week.

[Ike]

See Ben Johnson's comments.

[Big Cat]

What do you say?

[Ike]

They asked him about the Tom Brady situation.

[Big Cat]

What'd he say?

[Ike]

He said it's overblown. I don't think it's a big deal at all.

[Big Cat]

Okay, but did he also say it was weird?

[Memes]

No, they didn't ask him if it was Bruce.

[Ike]

Bruce arians was on McAfee show. He said, yeah, that's. That's completely overblown. I used to just tell him the truth because no one believed me anyway. Dana Orlofsky went on espn.

[Memes]

He said it was weird.

[Ike]

Nope.

[Big Cat]

But no one's talking about the. The only thing we're asking is is it weird?

[Ike]

They would have said if it was weird. They all said no if they weren't asked. Your only source right now is Florio.

[Memes]

What did Dan say?

[Ike]

Dan? I'll read the quote exactly.

[Memes]

I'd like to know what Dan said and also how many interviews Dan Orlovsky's been in as he's probably talking as broadcaster.

[Ike]

I don't think it brings integrity into the equation. I don't think Tom gathering the season changing information that he's going to be able to acquire to bring back to the Raiders that's going to help them win the game. Okay, so essentially not weird is the translation of that.

[Memes]

I think I stand by my take that it's weird.

[Big Cat]

We don't know if it's weird or not.

[Memes]

Are you worried, Big Cat, about the Matt Eber flu revenge game?

[Big Cat]

Slightly. Here's. Let's have a hard conversation. I've crunched the numbers. This is a gateway game. If the Bears win this game. And I'm not saying that the Bears are going to win this game because Jalen Johnson is out for a very long time. We don't have any cornerbacks. Ones we have are not great. The defense has been just absolutely lit up. Cowboys have a really good offense. It's going to be a tough one game to win, but it's a gateway game. And by that I mean if the Bears win this game, don't be shocked if the bears are 5 and 4 or 6 and 3.

[Memes]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

But they have to win this game.

[Memes]

If they have to win, they don't win this game.

[Big Cat]

Then, you know, forget it.

[Memes]

Couldn't they still be five and four?

[Big Cat]

No, no. Season's over. It's a gateway game. This is the gateway.

[Memes]

I think it might be a gateway game for your feelings about Caleb Williams as a quarterback.

[Big Cat]

I'm not talking. I'm talking about the Bears season. Caleb. Because if they go on three, it's going to be just full, like, Caleb's got to look good. I'm talking about the Bears season as it stands. They win this game, we are now going through the portal. And then I'm gonna snap my fingers and you can even make this edit. Snap my fingers. Holy shit. The Bears are five and four. Bears are six and three.

[Memes]

Six and how the fuck did that. So six and three would be special because that would literally mean that you are above a 6 out of 10. That would mean that you're 6 out of 9, which is more excited than you were just saying.

[Big Cat]

They got to win this game, though. If they don't win this game, none of this matters. They're owing three and they just suck. And that's very much on the table.

[Ike]

You do a snap the fingers, they lose this game. And where they're at after nine.

[Big Cat]

Oh, and nine.

[Max]

Remember when we. Remember we went through the schedule on Monday and you were like, I think it was loss.

[Fred Smoot]

Loss, yeah. Loss, yeah.

[Ike]

Loss, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if you know this about me, but what did Coacho say? Like, competition Tuesday get better wet. Like, tell the truth Wednesday, whatever. But Thursday, every week I'm back isn't Thursday.

[Memes]

No repeat. So Big Cat's literally not repeating his take from earlier?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, someone pointed that out when I tweeted that it's A gateway game. They're like, dude, like what you said on Monday, like, how is it possible? I'm like, it's Thursday now, buddy. We're, we're ready to go again. They could very. They probably will lose this game. So I'm not saying they're going to win this game. I'm just saying don't let them win this game. Because when they win this game or if they win this game, we're thinking five or five and four.

[Memes]

So after they win this game, then you have the Raiders win, which if they win.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Then you go to the Commanders.

[Big Cat]

That's probably a loss. But if they beat the. If they're on a two game win streak, they might just be good.

[Memes]

They might just rip another one off. Then they have the Saints at home win. Then they go to the Ravens.

[Big Cat]

If this is a four game win streak, they might just be really good.

[Memes]

And then they go to Jake Browning in the Bengals.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then the Giants.

[Memes]

The schedule gets easier.

[Big Cat]

I'm just saying watch out. But again, when they lose, like when we snap my fingers Sunday night and they got blown out by the Cowboys, season's over.

[Memes]

If there is one gateway game, I.

[Big Cat]

Love a good gateway game.

[Memes]

If there's one thing that Matt Eber flu is really good at, he's figuring out ways for the Bears to lose football games.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

That's what I would be concerned about.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The, I do like the. Ben Johnson basically called out everyone and a lot of it feels. People think it might be DJ Moore, but this feels like a gut check point for the Bear season. It's a gateway game.

[Memes]

I'm also, I'm actively monitoring Ben Johnson and how, how well he's able to do coach speak.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

His first season as a head coach, I think he's done really well in the coach speak department. Like, they asked him about last week and for the most part he was like, I did a really, really bad job.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's.

[Memes]

Everything's on me.

[Big Cat]

He's extremely honest, which I love. He's. He's saying it how it is and like, you wouldn't think a new coach would call out his team like that. Being like, we're not even close to like a, a good football team. We're going to have to compete more in practice. We're going to ramp it up. Like, I like that. Culture change.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

With a little cleanup on the Brandon Aubrey conversation from earlier this week, I actually heard from an NFL gm.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Memes]

About our debate.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

He said he would go in the first two Rounds.

[Big Cat]

You said first round.

[Memes]

He said first two rounds.

[Big Cat]

You said first round.

[Memes]

This guy said first two rounds.

[Big Cat]

That's changing the debate.

[Memes]

And a team could fall in love.

[Big Cat]

With them, but that's changing the debate.

[Memes]

It's pretty close, though.

[Big Cat]

Well, if you said first two rounds, it might be different.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

But for first round, I just. There's just no way.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Because like the. The Cowboy. You know what the Cowboys. Giants game. Like the. You're like, oh, the Cowboys have Brandon Aubrey. He's incredible. He won that game. Do you know what would have won that game? If the Cowboys had a lockdown corner.

[Hank]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Probably more important because he plays in every snap on defense.

[Memes]

Was. Was Jerry Jones actually galaxy brain when he traded Micah Parsons? Because if Micah Parsons was in on that play in overtime, he'd probably sack Russell Wilson instead of Russell Wilson throwing that interception.

[Big Cat]

He was.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Think about it.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Listen, Brandon Aubrey, I talked to Todd McShay. He said probably, maybe second, probably third. Which, that's fine because he is very, very good. But I still think if you did a redraft the entire league, you draft offensive and defensive lineman first. Not Brandon Aubrey. Build the whole thing around a kicker.

[Memes]

All it takes is one.

[Big Cat]

Also shout out to Steelers fans who are getting upset because they said that Chris Boswell. And I do. Chris Boswell does have to kick outside. Brandon Aubrey. Yeah, that's a big difference.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Chiefs at Giants Sunday night football. Giants plus six over under 45 and a half. I want to do a you guys ready for Rita AI headline because sports writing is going away and now we just have AI articles.

[Memes]

I've gotten addicted to looking at the different, like, overseas Facebook groups for different teams that just make up stories entirely about them. Those are very fun to watch.

[Big Cat]

All right, here it is. It's from Nidhi. I think he's Indian. Patrick Mahomes set sights on Giants 11 and 4 record amid Chiefs three game losing streak.

[Memes]

Yeah, that's. That's one of those headlines. Yeah, Overseas, like, like India. Chiefs fans.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Giants are 11 and 4 all time against the Chiefs. So that's what Patrick Mahomes is using his motivation for this week.

[Memes]

Yeah, he's pissed off.

[Big Cat]

He's pissed off that like 40 years ago the Giants beat the Chiefs a bunch.

[Memes]

He's really upset. He's fighting for the entire honor of the Kansas City area.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I kind of like the Giants in this game. No, I don't think. I think the Chiefs are going to win six points. I don't think the Chiefs can blow anyone out right now.

[Memes]

Have enough guy Mahomes doesn't lose on Sunday Night Football. He just doesn't. Mahomes. Can you envision that? Like, if. If you.

[Big Cat]

I don't. I can't.

[Memes]

If you do a little, just like a little look into the future. If you try to remote view it and you think about it, use your imagination. Can you imagine Patrick Mahomes losing in MetLife Stadium?

[Big Cat]

No.

[Memes]

On Sunday night with Chris Collinsworth being like, well, none of us saw this coming tonight, Al.

[Big Cat]

But could you also imagine. Could you also imagine the Chiefs being up 20 to 16 in the fourth quarter and then just running like Mahomes? It's four minutes left, and if the Chiefs get a first down, the game's over and Mahomes runs, scrambles for 8 yards and then ends the game.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I could see that, too.

[Memes]

The Giants might get Andrew Thomas back, which would be huge.

[Big Cat]

That would be enormous. Maybe Jackson dart package.

[Memes]

Maybe we see that. Yeah, the dart attack.

[Big Cat]

Dart attack.

[Memes]

Maybe more. Scatter.

[Hank]

Boo. Ooh.

[Memes]

Scatter.

[Hank]

Boo.

[Memes]

Scout a boo. Busy, busy.

[Fred Smoot]

Got a boo.

[Big Cat]

Got a boo.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

We were so close to our parlay. That's my fault. Jordan Mason. I didn't score. I'll say this for everyone who wrote our parlay with us. The silver lining is no touchdowns in the game, period. Made it feel a little bit better.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

To fill in for me? Because I lost.

[Hank]

Sure. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Afternoon games. What do you guys got?

[Ike]

Hank, I'm 2.

[Fred Smoot]

0.

[Ike]

Also top the leaderboard on. On picks for the guy that doesn't care about football.

[Hank]

Oh, okay.

[Memes]

Busy, busy. Scatter Boo. Scatter Boo.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Memes]

All.

[Hank]

Right.

[Memes]

I will go with Ricky Piersol.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Like it.

[Ike]

I mean, what, should I take a chalkier pick.

[Hank]

Now?

[Ike]

Now I'm stuck.

[Memes]

Just go with your heart.

[Hank]

What do you got?

[Ike]

Well, for the Sarlay. The Sarlay for this week is Saints moneyline bill Anytime touchdown score.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Memes]

I love that.

[Ike]

Packers money line plus 8, 30.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Ike]

No, I'll stick with busy busy.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's get a boo. All right, what do you got?

[Max]

I am going to take Roma Dunes.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I like it.

[Max]

I think there's gonna be a lot. A lot of points in that game.

[Big Cat]

Okay, that's got to be a juicy one. So, Rome, Scatterbo, and what was yours?

[Memes]

I had Ricky Pearsall, Ricky Pierce, all.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, so go bet that on the DraftKings sports book. Ride with us. That'll be a fun one. What is it? What is it? What are the odds right now?

[Memes]

It's gotta be Juice.

[Max]

I don't know. I can't find Ricky Pierce.

[Big Cat]

He's on the 49ers.

[Max]

I know that, but.

[Big Cat]

No, it sounds like you don't know that.

[Max]

I know that he's on the 49.

[Big Cat]

I don't think.

[Ike]

He's not listening right now. Yeah, he's not listening right now.

[Memes]

Okay, then can I change mine, then? Yeah, I gotta change it. If he's not up there, that. That means.

[Ike]

Well, there's only four players. I don't know why that is right now.

[Memes]

Is he not playing?

[Big Cat]

No, he probably is.

[Ike]

I probably will be, but maybe they're.

[Big Cat]

Waiting to hear about Purdy.

[Memes]

That could be much.

[Max]

That could make sense.

[Memes]

Okay, then I'll go with. I'm gonna go with jsn.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

All right, so bet that with us on the DraftKings sportsbook. Let's finish with our picks, and then we have Jerry OConnell's fantasy minutes. What is that? What does it pay? Max is struggling.

[Memes]

You okay, Max?

[Big Cat]

Max, are you okay?

[Max]

You took jsn?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Max is J. E G Brown.

[Big Cat]

Seahawks. He plays for the Seahawks. Not The Ravens.

[Memes]

He's a wide receiver.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

There it is. Oh, Found it.

[Memes]

He was just searching, then you. Then you got a click.

[Max]

I couldn't. Spelling is hard.

[Memes]

Juicy.

[Big Cat]

Juicy.

[Memes]

Max might need a new mouse. You might need one with wider buttons.

[Hank]

All right.

[Max]

It's just one button.

[Memes]

It's a hard conversation. Do they make the hard conversation? They make those like a computer mouse for fat guys.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Remember that? I remember when, like, my grandmother, before she died, she. She lived with us and. And we had that. We had to get the phone with the huge numbers.

[Memes]

I love using those.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

To get on that desk.

[Memes]

Luxurious. I wasn't saying Max. I said for fat people. The thing about you is a joke. I'm five foot nine.

[Big Cat]

Fat than short. You can always lose weight, Max, with that.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I could always move to a different country where everybody's shorter than here.

[Big Cat]

Nepal.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Pardon my take from Nepal. All right, do our picks and then we have Jerry's fantasy minute. Who is up first is Zach.

[Zach]

Max is up first.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Max.

[Max]

I'm up first. I'm going to take bears cowboys over 50 and a half.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You knew that was going to go. You knew that was going to go. By the way, the standings are. You have four.

[Zach]

No, it's three. Three. Me and Hank have three. Big head. Zach two. Max one. Pft. Zero for four.

[Memes]

Four. Not the way you want to start a season. Oh, for four?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

I don't think I've ever hit a total in the past two years, so.

[Fred Smoot]

Okay.

[Ike]

Okay.

[Memes]

Are you talking about the cereal?

[Big Cat]

Frank the Tank early Fleming here.

[Max]

Total total's probably healthier.

[Big Cat]

Another total.

[Memes]

That's why you wouldn't have hit it.

[Hank]

Max.

[Max]

Oh, God.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Max over in the Cowboys.

[Hank]

Bears.

[Max]

Yeah. I think it's over 50 and a half or.

[Memes]

Zach.

[Big Cat]

Zach.

[Zach (car accident story)]

I would like to take the over 44 and a half in the Rams Eagles game.

[Memes]

Oh, interesting. I'm taking the under in that game.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to take the New York jets plus seven.

[Zach]

It's a great pick.

[Hank]

Is it?

[Ike]

I will be taking the Rams plus three and a half against the Eagles.

[Memes]

And.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, Connor, I will be taking.

[Hank]

Whoa.

[Zach]

I'll be taking the government over here. The Steelers patriots for over 44 and a half.

[Big Cat]

Ah, he got you on that one. He got you on that one.

[Ike]

I will be taking the under in the Steelers Patriots. No, I can't do that.

[Zach]

I get another pick. You can still take that, though. I'll take Chargers minus two and a half.

[Ike]

I will take the under and the Raiders commanders 44 and a half.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I like that. I'll take the under in Giants Chiefs 45 and a half.

[Memes]

I'm going to go Monday night.

[Hank]

Okay. Whoa.

[Memes]

I'm going to take the Lions plus four and a half. Yeah, I went there.

[Zach (car accident story)]

I would like to take in the Titans Colts game. The Colts at minus four and a half.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Max]

I would like to take the Chiefs minus six.

[Hank]

Wow. Bold.

[Big Cat]

All right, those are our picks. Are we ready for our Jerry?

[Hank]

I'm ready.

[Big Cat]

Jerry. Jerry. Jerry. So we don't watch these. Pft. And I do not watch these beforehand when he sends it to us. So we have no idea we're watching it for the first time with everyone else. Here we go. All right.

[Memes]

Here we go.

[Zach]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Memes. Just put some like techno music on this. Okay. Whatever you, you don't have to pay for it. Here we go.

[Zach]

I got one minute.

[Big Cat]

And here we go.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Hey, what's up? Welcome to Fantasy boys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, look at us. Chest and buys every day.

[Fred Smoot]

Chest and buys.

[Big Cat]

Chest and buys.

[Fred Smoot]

What are we doing Week three?

[Big Cat]

Zach Ertz. You got to pick up Zach Ertz. Sick tight end. He's playing Vegas. Their defense sucks.

[Memes]

Zach hurts.

[Big Cat]

Also that other tight end, Joanne Johnson.

[Memes]

Out of New Orleans.

[Big Cat]

He's had like 16 points the last two weeks. You gotta pick him up. Juwan Johnson. What else? Everybody else should drop Caleb Johnson.

[Fred Smoot]

He's the worst.

[Big Cat]

Just like you let that ball drop. And you should pick up Najee Harris.

[Fred Smoot]

Out of Los Angeles.

[Big Cat]

His eye is all better. Fastest healing part of the party. A lot of people don't know that that. What else we got?

[Fred Smoot]

Oh, this is really weird. But you, you gotta stream Caleb Williams.

[Big Cat]

Because the Dallas D sucks. And also Mac Jones.

[Fred Smoot]

I did it.

[Memes]

Under a minute.

[Fred Smoot]

You big cat, you.

[Hank]

Oh, that was good.

[Big Cat]

How's our fantasy team doing?

[Memes]

I think we're 2 0.

[Max]

Wasn't that the point of Jerry just has taken over the Fantasy Boys?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, I love it though.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

But I, I, I want to know what's going on with the fantasy. I want. I wish he was giving us a little update.

[Ike]

Of what?

[Hank]

Of the league?

[Memes]

Yeah, Yeah. I can pull it up right now. I'm pretty sure we're two zero Jerry's. It's tough to tell because Jerry dominates the group chat. Regardless of if we win or if we lose, it's not going to stop him from just dropping the most random in there. Let's see. Jerry's kids two zero. And we're in second place in the league right now. So yeah, Jerry, he knows what he's doing. And they up the buy in this year too. Jerry went out and got more permission from his wife to spend money, which was very nice of her to let him do that. So. Yeah, two zero.

[Big Cat]

Love it. Love it. Okay, let's get.

[Memes]

Is the eye actually the fastest healing part of the body?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Memes]

It sounded right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, sounded right to me. All right, let's get to our interview with Fred Smoot. Okay. Before we get to Fred Smoot, twisted tea. Twisted t new sponsor is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real Brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted tea is the perfect alcohol beverage to keep the good times going all season long. Whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or just seeing where the day takes you, Twisted tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Keep it twisted with twisted tea. I love the original. I love the big boy cans. I love the peach. There's so many good flavors with twisted tea and it is such a refreshing drink. So grab a tea, it's game time. Stock up on ice cold twisted tea today and send us a pic. Send us a pic of you enjoying a twisted tea, whether it be in your backyard, your living room, a game, wherever it may be. Send us that twisted tea. Grab a tea, it's game time. Stock up on ice cold twisted tea today. Okay, here he is, Fred Smooth. Okay. We now welcome on a very special guest. He is our colleague, our friend. It is Fred Smoot in studio. Fred.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's great to see you.

[Fred Smoot]

Always good to see you, brother.

[Big Cat]

It's great to talk. Should we. Where do you want to start? You want to start with Jaden Daniels? Are you nervous about his knee?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

We can start there. Let's go and get the elephant out the room.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Fred Smoot]

All right. Anytime you got a franchise quarterback and there's a chance he could be hurt, any fan base is feeling it. All right? Because it's this big if in the room. It's this big cloud over there. It's like if he doesn't play, luckily, luckily, it's 20, 25 and we went cloned him. All right. No, no. Not only is that do we have a storing quarterback. That's the number two pick in the ex Heisman trophy winner and the ex NFL rookie of the year. So is our number two quarterback. They have the same DNA. And the one thing we can say is when he had to play last year Mariota, he came through and he showed up and he played all right. So as much as I'm worried, I know we got a gatekeeper, and when you got a gatekeeper, you got a chance.

[Memes]

I agree with that because Mariota against the Cowboys last year, Mariota against the Titans last year, like, he came in. Yeah, he was really, really good. So in terms of backup quarterbacks, I, I like where we're at. I am, I'll just say it. I'm nervous. I'm nervous because every time I watch Jaden get hit and I think he's led the league, I think he's been hit the most.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

When you talk about running plays and tackles, he's taken sacks, he's taken and like, you know, quarterback pressures where he's ended up on the ground. I think he's been the most hit quarterback in the NFL since he got into the league. And every time I see it, I do, I. You cringe, I cringe, I get flashbacks. And when I see a sprained knee on a quarterback, let's not see him playing it at FedEx Field. I don't, I don't like where that's taking me.

[Fred Smoot]

Listen.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Fred Smoot]

I'm your counselor. Yeah, you have. I'm diagnosing you now with RG3 PTSD.

[Memes]

All right, well, I call it post Traumatic Snyder disorder.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah, you, you have it, all right. And there's nothing wrong with it, but it's a cure for that. And they just let the football gods do what they may because you can't stop them anyway. We're going to get hurt, we're going to get injured. You're playing the most physical game. We just happen to have a quarterback that Wiley makes a lot of plays with his legs. So therefore it's going to be some times where he going to get hurt. We understand that, but that's why your cake is layered. And when you got a three layer layer cake, you can eat the top layer before you eat the second one. Everything will be okay. They taste the same. Okay. They taste. Mariota layer tastes just as good as the Jaden layer for a short time.

[Hank]

Huh?

[Fred Smoot]

Josh Jacobs, I mean, Josh Johnson. If he needs to get in there.

[Memes]

That'S a good layer, too.

[Fred Smoot]

That's a good layer.

[Memes]

If it's a good layer, get to the Sam Hartman layer.

[Fred Smoot]

Now we in trouble.

[Big Cat]

Now you're out of cake. I like this analogy, is just like, hey, it's like eating cake. Now you feel better?

[Memes]

Yeah, I do. I mean, work for Marie Antoinette. I, I think that it's going to be. Is going to be hopefully Mariota this weekend. I. I don't think so.

[Fred Smoot]

You went you with. Let's not rush this. It's early in the year.

[Memes]

I don't want to rush it. And Jaden's going to want to play.

[Fred Smoot]

Yes, he does.

[Memes]

Dan Quinn has said I need to see him practicing with the team fully in order for him to play with the team. I. I would feel more comfortable. And it's not like I'm underestimating the Raiders. I think that the Raiders, they did look bad on Monday Night Football. They look good week one, and they've got, you know, they pay. They pay those guys to play football, too.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

In Las Vegas. And I. I think that if we want to keep him away from Max Crosby for a week, let him heal up to the point. I don't know. It's probably a grade one sprain on his knee.

[Fred Smoot]

No, we don't know. There you go, guessing.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Pie father. Don't you do that. What you need to do is take what you do know, because we don't know anything. They didn't say it was a bruise. They didn't say it was a sprain. They didn't say it was anything because I know what played happen. I knew the play that he was running away from Parsons, and when he turned up the field, he looked, and then the guy cut him low.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Fred Smoot]

So that could be anything. All right. But what I'm saying is I'm with you on not rushing him, but if he has the ability to play, why not play? Because one thing I know about Coach Quinn, if he can't protect himself, coach ain't putting him out there. So that's the big thing. This is a franchise quarterback. This is not a novelty. Like, this is not. Let's throw Spencer Rattler out there. Let's survive till we get Archie Manning look the same. No, we're not doing that. Like, this is. We got a franchise quarterback. We. We know. We know how to take care of them.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Memes]

All right, well, if he plays on Sunday, I mean, I'm gonna be excited to watch him play. I'm also going to be on edge. You know damn well that field, the.

[Fred Smoot]

FedEx field, it's not what it used to be.

[Memes]

It's got a body count.

[Fred Smoot]

No, no, this is what I can say. New ownership, they have reinforced redone that field. We got one of the best grass fields in the league right now. All right, so do it. We. We can't just because our girl used to treat us like this. She's treating us better now, huh?

[Memes]

Well, no, it's a new girl.

[Hank]

No, no.

[Fred Smoot]

We went to counseling.

[Hank]

All right.

[Fred Smoot]

We went to counseling. All right? She took heed to what they said, and now she's actually cooking food now. She's actually looking out to your boy. Longest change happening. I'm never gonna knock that change and look back in the past and say, this is how it used to be.

[Memes]

Okay? We've all changed.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah, We've changed.

[Memes]

We've become better people.

[Fred Smoot]

Yes, we did.

[Memes]

And so we're in a happier place right now. Okay. I'm gonna take that to heart. And from. From your mouth to God's ears. I hope that. I hope you're right.

[Fred Smoot]

I hope it happens, man. Because we lost a lot of guys the other day. We lost Echola. We. We lost Dietrich Wise. We lost. But we signed Preston Smith, we moved Chris Rodriguez up. So we got some things in motion.

[Memes]

Gotcha. Fred, I got a question for you about. About defense.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I was watching Monday Night Football and I did. I watched till the very end. I know it was late on the east coast of the second game. The Chargers and the Raiders, and I. I walked away from that game thinking that we should be talking more about Derwin James.

[Fred Smoot]

Oh, first of all, where have you been the last four years, five years?

[Memes]

I. I love watching him play. I do.

[Hank]

But.

[Memes]

But the way that he was playing, I feel like he should be in that conversation.

[Fred Smoot]

For defensive player of the year.

[Memes]

Yes.

[Fred Smoot]

Most definitely. He's that. He has that type caliber. He can cover to the T. He's an A plus in coverage. He's an 8 plus in physicality. He loves to play the run. He's an A plus in intensive. He's an A plus in leadership. He just never had a coach to help him lead the team to where they need to be at. Now he has the coach that matches everything that he's about. Darwin James. Now that they start to play playoff games, now that they start to play more Monday night games, more premier games.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

People will get more love to Dorian James because he's an east coast guy, Southern guy. We're from Florida State. But sometimes you can get caught in purgatory over there in the West.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

And everybody forget about you.

[Memes]

There's something about a safety like that that can just wreck a game.

[Fred Smoot]

That can wreck a game.

[Memes]

So fun to watch.

[Fred Smoot]

Because it ain't too many of them.

[Hank]

No.

[Fred Smoot]

We usually have four or five of them, maybe six a year. That can change a game. Not so much this year. All Right. But he is the one. He is legit leader one. And now he gonna have a little bit more on his plate with Khalil Mack coming up. Miss.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. So we're two weeks into the season. I wanted to ask you this. 02 feels like death.

[Hank]

Over.

[Fred Smoot]

It feels like death.

[Hank]

Death.

[Big Cat]

You've been on an 0 and 2 team before. What, what's the vibe?

[Fred Smoot]

My rookie year, Morty Schottenheimer, we started off with Owens. Five, zero and six.

[Memes]

Something like that.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

I was like, I'm never gonna win a game in my life.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Does it feel like that?

[Fred Smoot]

It feels like that. It feels like you're lost, your locker room is lost, your fan base is like question marks. The like wft like they like what is going on. But you have to just get the first one. That's the thing about it. Put four quarters together and just get the first one. We don't care. Hell, the hot water. We don't care if the score 30 get the first win. Get it under your belt so you don't have to think about that no more.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

And it's a lot of franchises, a lot of fan bases waking up this Sunday, coming up, like, if we lose this game, it's over with. But I asked you, El Capitan.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

What's the difference in 0 and 2.

[Big Cat]

And O and 3?03 does feel way worse. I don't know.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah, they the same thing.

[Big Cat]

I know. But listen, like, I, you know, it's just. You go through the whole off season, you go through training camp and you're like, all right, this year, let's get on the right foot.

[Fred Smoot]

Promise.

[Big Cat]

Owen 2 Just. It just feel and it's.

[Hank]

It.

[Big Cat]

I know it's stupid to say this because it is a long season. There's going to be a weird shit that happens. Like, like, even when you look at the schedule, the one thing we. We always get excited in the spring because we look at the schedule and.

[Fred Smoot]

We don't know nothing.

[Big Cat]

Joe Burrow's out now. The Bengals on their schedule thought, oh, that's going to be a tough game. Maybe it's not as tough.

[Fred Smoot]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Do you think though, like, is there like, how early is too early for like a players only meeting? I saw the Dolphins did that after week one once.

[Fred Smoot]

They did it after week one. First of all, they should have did a players only meeting this summer.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

That's when they should have been doing like. Cause you could tell that that apple was riding time it hit the ground.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Like it, it Ain't like, think about it. Your quarterback tour just admitted I'm half of another man.

[Hank]

He did.

[Big Cat]

He said that.

[Fred Smoot]

He was like, hey, hey. You 6 5? I'm 5 10.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you can make all the throws.

[Fred Smoot]

I can't. You know, you can run and I crawl like it was like, did you just bow down to this dude?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Like then you got Mac McDaniels, gets up there, loses everybody with what he's saying. Then you got Tyreek Hill and then you got this going on. It just feel like that house is just falling apart. So if you're a Miami Dolphins fans, we're gonna pray for you right now. Not laugh at you. We're gonna pray for you. Cause it's bad there right now. But it's a couple of more teams out here that feel like we got our locker room in order and we still owing to it. But that's the business of football right now. Nobody in America thought the Kansas City Chiefs, Andrew Reed and Petra Mahomes, the dynasty, was going to be 02.

[Hank]

Right.

[Fred Smoot]

You know how much money I could have won in Vegas if I would have put that down? Kansas City, 0 and 2.

[Hank]

Right.

[Memes]

Well, I mean, if you're talking about Mike McDaniel, I think he was right about something that he said when he said to win games, you have to win the game and not lose the game. And that is how you lose the game.

[Fred Smoot]

Well, why is he coaching lose the game?

[Memes]

Well, he's not. He's first. You have to not lose if you want to win.

[Fred Smoot]

Well, first of all, you have to make your playbook grow and mature. If you don't want to lose, you can't be running the same plays that you run in three years ago. All right, two, three. Two years ago. Three years ago they had the most explosive offense in football.

[Memes]

Great running game too.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah, great running game. And they went vertical. They not going vertical and they do not run the ball. They're running the same plays because they stacking it. That means we've studied them, we know them, we know what motion you're going to do. Are you going to layer on your playbook? Are you going to add to your playbook or you just think you're going to keep running the same. Same thing. That's what they're doing right now. They're running the same tire plays and.

[Memes]

They'Re not working when, when. When a team is, is struggling like the Dolphins have. And this is going to come out on Friday. So I mean, maybe the Dolphins shocked the world and they beat The Bills on Thursday, we don't know yet. But if you're. If you're in a team situation that's like that, where it feels like your coach is pre fired. Like everybody knows that he's on the hot seat out or.

[Fred Smoot]

I've had that situation.

[Hank]

What.

[Memes]

What happens differently between the players.

[Fred Smoot]

You go into survival mode mode. All right. Everybody in the building goes into survival mode. Regardless of this being truly the most team oriented sports game in the world, we. This is the most team. We're still independent contractors. And when you know it's a chance that your coach finna take a nosedive, it's every man for himself. It's like jumping overboard. They like let the kids and the children go first. I got to go too. Like, so it's one of the things, like I can't put no bad film out there because I don't even know who my next coach gonna be.

[Hank]

Right.

[Fred Smoot]

I can't. Like, so people go into survival mode and this actually pushes you down that rabbit hole even more of losing because now you ain't playing as a group no more. Everybody just playing to survive another year.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Memes]

You were and still are a great talker.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Love hearing you talk.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I'd say CD Deuce is probably up there for the most prolific current talker in the NFL right now.

[Fred Smoot]

CD Lamb. That's one of your favorites.

[Memes]

Well, CD Deuce. C.J. oh, Johnson.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

You know what? He's more. He's more vindictive than I was.

[Memes]

Meaner.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah. I was more of a laugher while talking trash. Me and Chad. More of a cheerful, happy, trash talkers. He's more demeaning in his trash talk.

[Memes]

And there was a moment in the Monday Night Football game against the Bucks where he said something to Baker and seemed to wake Baker up by talking shit to him.

[Fred Smoot]

If I love any quarterback because Philip river used to be very much like Baker. Baker. Baker the touchdown maker. If. If you throw turds at him, he'll throw turds back. And I love that about him. He has an edge to him and he's. He's always been better as under underdog Baker.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Fred Smoot]

Not overdog Baker. Underdog Baker is a dude. He a dude that I take to a back alley with me. He a dude that I take the Hooters. Let's have some drinks. Baker, like.

[Memes]

Cause that's.

[Fred Smoot]

That's who he is. And yeah, he did push a button with Baker. And when you do that with a quarterback like that, that, that the team kind of the post of the emotion is from him. That's what happens.

[Memes]

Were there any guys that you would not talk shit to because you knew that they would. They would.

[Fred Smoot]

A switch would happen.

[Memes]

Yeah, switch would happen.

[Fred Smoot]

I used to itch at Jerome Betty sometime. And then he ran me over one play, and he wouldn't let me hit the ground. You know how, like, he's running me over, so I'm just trying to get to the ground as soon as possible. And he's lifting me back up, running me over again and again. And I, like. I was like, why did I even talk to this dude? And then I'm trying to tackle him, and his body's so bad that I can't. It's nothing I can grab onto. I'm trying to grab his back, but his back's everywhere. I'm trying. Like, I didn't know what to do. Like, I have never felt so helpless in my life.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Fred, I think I know the answer to this, but I just want to hear you talk about it. What's your favorite part about the fall? Is it football or pumpkin spice drinks?

[Fred Smoot]

Now, you know I got a vendetta against everything, pumpkin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know. You do everything.

[Fred Smoot]

All right, Let me ask you something. I know you didn't. You just said, honey, I'm going to the grocery store. Do you need anything? How many times have your wife say, you know what? Since you're out, bring me back pumpkin.

[Big Cat]

Pumpkin not.

[Fred Smoot]

She's never said that. Because the number one rule we talk as children is don't play with your food.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Don't play with your food. All right, but a pumpkin. They give you a pumpkin, first thing you do is carve a face in it. Not eat it, not make a. Not. Not none of that. You carve a face in it, you set it on the front porch. That's it. November come, you do it again.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

So for two months, pumpkins get to dominate, but we act like we actually like pumpkin.

[Memes]

I like pumpkin pie. You don't like pumpkin pie.

[Fred Smoot]

Ain't no such thing as pumpkin pie.

[Memes]

What does that mean?

[Fred Smoot]

There's no such thing as sweet potato pie.

[Memes]

It's great.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

All right. So now, pumpkin has one dish that is made for. So you tell me you're gonna take all that water, all that land, grow all these pumpkins to make pumpkin pie? Like, it's so bad. In the animal world, the only person that eats punk, the only animal, is a hippopotamus.

[Memes]

That's not true.

[Fred Smoot]

What else?

[Memes]

Squirrels. Squirrels eat pumpkin. I put two pumpkins out of My porch last year, within, like, they was cut up.

[Hank]

Right.

[Memes]

Three days. There's a perfect circle hole in each pumpkin. And the squirrels burrowed in. The squirrels got fat as.

[Fred Smoot]

Hey, pft. Let me tell you, sue, you know, also, the. The squirrels in California are not carnivores. Right. They're starting to eat each other.

[Memes]

Are you serious?

[Fred Smoot]

They're starting to eat meat.

[Memes]

That's terrifying.

[Fred Smoot]

All right, so, yeah, they, like. It's only two things left. We can eat this pumpkin in each other.

[Big Cat]

No, that's the worst thing.

[Fred Smoot]

Like, I'm gonna tell you what really does it for me at this time of year, when I got to see it everywhere.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

When I go get my coffee.

[Hank]

Coffee. Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

I got pumping latte. I like. Well, why you ain't got it the other months? Because we don't want it. All right? I walk anywhere. I got pumpkin fragrance. Why I want to walk around smelling like a pump? Why do I want my house smelling like a pro? Like, I invite my boys over. Come on, man. Y' all smell all that pumpkin in here. Nobody, like. Nobody does that. There's nothing cool about pumpkin, but nobody would say it because people. Americans are scared to say something that we know the truth of and the truth of stuff. We don't like pumpkins. We don't like to do a lot of stuff that we're just forced to do as human beings, but we don't step up and say it. Like, I had to tell somebody, you know, you don't like that pumpkin. You know you don't like it.

[Big Cat]

You're just. You're just trying to follow along.

[Fred Smoot]

You fall in.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

You're being seasonal enough, pumpkin. No, I want it. I want it through.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

I don't want it grow on America so anymore, like, don't waste the water, don't waste the soil or. No, we could be growing something that we actually like to eat.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Memes]

I. I like sweet potato pie a lot. I do enjoy pumpkin pie, but you're right. I don't. You don't put pumpkin in any other dish.

[Fred Smoot]

Any. It's. So basically, it makes it useless.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Hippopotamuses and squirrels. Why are we following them?

[Fred Smoot]

That's what I'm telling you. Like, crazy. All I'm saying is I talked to a deer the other day. He said he don't eat, like, pumpkin.

[Memes]

Fred, I got another question for you about defensive backs.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Do you love it when there's, like, an overthrow by 6 or 7 yards and the quarterback just. Just misses a guy and you get to Celebrate in the dude's face.

[Fred Smoot]

And we was. We was beat, too.

[Memes]

And you were beat.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Put the seat belt on him.

[Fred Smoot]

You know what let's call a defensive backs love kiss.

[Hank]

Okay?

[Fred Smoot]

That mean we kissed by the football guys. We didn't do everything right. All right, the receivers beat us, but somewhere or another, that quarterback just lunched it. And he lunched it 40 yards too far. And you see us don't hesitate. We talking trash. Like it was locked down coverage. Because we. Because to us, when we fall short on them other ones, we don't get that love.

[Memes]

No, you. You hear about it.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah. Thank you. Think about this. I can shut down Randy Moss for four quarters if he beats me to win the game. I am trash. I'm the worst cornerback to ever play the game. Well, that's that love hate relationship we have. So when we get those dbs kisses, then the football got throwing a kiss at us. I kiss back. That's what I do. I kiss back and I blow that kiss up. Because you never know which one of those could save your career. At least let you have playing a couple more years. Because on my sheet, that goes as a plus.

[Hank]

Yeah. Not.

[Fred Smoot]

Not as a minus.

[Memes]

And people forget about it after like two plays. You forget entirely that you got beat.

[Fred Smoot]

But they'll never forget that you let Steve Smith catch that comeback ride on you. And I'm like, come on, dude, have you tried to check him?

[Hank]

Right?

[Memes]

I get it. It makes sense. Showing love back to the people that showed love to you.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah. Yeah. And the football guys will shine on you sometimes. That's the thing about sports. Any given day could be your day. And that's what you got to feel, especially in the NFL. Because every day won't be your day. But if I'm checking Plex today, and I know I got to check Plex five weeks ago, I mean, five weeks from now, I know I need to get out here, I need to start making these plays, and I need to start making them early because everyone that he makes on me counts against me.

[Memes]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, so, so would you, if you were playing in today's day and age, would you be a seatbelt guy? Would you do the seatbelt celebration?

[Fred Smoot]

No, I'd be more about the, the bow and arrow.

[Big Cat]

Bow and arrow.

[Fred Smoot]

The bow and arrow. Not really a seat belt because I don't, I don't want the receiver to feel safe.

[Hank]

Right. Yeah, that's true.

[Big Cat]

That's a good point.

[Fred Smoot]

You know what I'm saying? So maybe I would have did something like a jail cell where I would have just locked the jail cell up on him or something and put a tray of food in there. Like I would have did something else.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Like, you know what? And I'm trying and then just tell you how my focus is. I'm looking over big cat shoulder and when we were just talking, all I could see was Mike Dickers monster sausage. And it just threw me off.

[Big Cat]

Monster sausage.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah, it just threw me off. It just threw me off.

[Memes]

Because if you were trying to plan a celebration, you'd have to also remember what celebration we're gonna do in the moment. I feel like you were an emotional guy. You wouldn't always, like, think about something that you had prepared.

[Fred Smoot]

No, no. You'll prepare stuff during the week.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

And you'll say, all right, this is for the biggest play.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Fred Smoot]

This is for a breakup because of this guy. Maybe it's something that signals to him and only he can pick up on it. Yeah, I, I like Chad Johnson. Chad loved the river dance. That was his thing. Like, he gonna do something. So my thing with him was I would always do, do something like Flavor Flav with him where I would start dancing. I would take my pants off, like fake my pants. I was feeling like. So it's, it's about the player who you going against, too, right? Like, some guys are quiet, checking the Reggie Wayne for four quarters. He's just gonna keep beating you. He ain't gonna dance. He ain't gonna do nothing. He's just gonna keep laying it on you. And that could. That. That silence can get deafening. Yeah, it could hurt you.

[Memes]

What about if you had a celebration plan? Because this happens a lot. And let's say you got one for a pick, right? You get an interception, here's what I'm gonna do. And then all of a sudden, all your teammates coming over to you right after the interception, and you can't do it, and you can't do this, and you're telling them like, hey, get away. I've got my celebration.

[Fred Smoot]

They know it. When you make the play and you do this, they. Everybody just stops because they know. He got some plan.

[Memes]

Yeah, let him go.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

So. So this is how you tell them. Stop. Give me a second. I'm gonna go straight Cam buying them on him. All right? That's what you can do right now. He's the best in the game.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Safety for the Coats. They used to be the safety for the Vikings last year. He has the best celebrations in football, right?

[Hank]

Did. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Against the Broncos. All right, we've had this discussion on the podcast. Is it unfair for you, a Commander's fan, to be thinking soupy this year?

[Fred Smoot]

No, no.

[Hank]

We.

[Fred Smoot]

We're thinking Super Bowl. It's been generations since we could think super bowl, and just to be in that window to think super bowl is a privilege. Congratulations to the team, by the way. We moving back to the nation's capital.

[Memes]

Very excited about that.

[Fred Smoot]

It has been announced we will have the $3 billion play pin put into the nation's capital.

[Big Cat]

Will it be a dome or outdoor?

[Fred Smoot]

It will be enclosed.

[Big Cat]

Are you. Are you proponent of that? Because it feels like we're on the way to just having every single stadium.

[Fred Smoot]

I think now, because these are billionaires that like to make money, and when football season not going around, they still want to generate money from these stadiums, and the only way to do it is to control mother Nature.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know. It's just sad because, like, the Bears are going to get a new stadium. It's going to be endorsed. It's just. It feels like it is. In 10, 15 years from now, we're gonna look back and be like, artificial. Holy shit. No one plays outdoors.

[Memes]

Buffalo. They're still gonna play outdoors, which I appreciate is. Is the one in D.C. i think. Is it gonna have a retractable roof.

[Fred Smoot]

And they go to theme. Retractable roofs cost a half a billion to a billion dollars. How many times are you gonna actually open it? Like, like think about.

[Big Cat]

I'd open it all the time if I was the owner. Just watch it open.

[Fred Smoot]

Think about Atlanta Falcon. How many times have they opened?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that roof, that little, that little they have up there.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Talking about a navel.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they got a navel up there.

[Fred Smoot]

Like, what are you doing?

[Hank]

Yeah, like.

[Fred Smoot]

So I, I just think money wise, it's not worth it. Now I think what we gonna have is a glass house where it's gonna look more outdoorsy than it really is.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Memes]

So you get the illusion that you're.

[Fred Smoot]

That you're still outdoors.

[Memes]

What I'm really excited about with the new stadium is destroying the old stadium.

[Hank]

Stadium.

[Fred Smoot]

Oh, they already taking it down.

[Memes]

Yeah, but are they gonna blow it up?

[Fred Smoot]

No, they can't. It's. It's too. It's in the neighborhood. They had to take it down piece by piece.

[Memes]

So they're not going to detonate it.

[Fred Smoot]

They're not. They cannot detonate it.

[Memes]

See, I missed that. I missed when, when a team would move on from old stadium and there would be a guy they'd bring because I wanted to be the guy that pressed the buttons field to, to blow that thing up and, and remove it from the.

[Fred Smoot]

Don't worry about it. FedEx field ain't going nowhere. We're gonna turn it into an indoor beach and we're gonna keep that thing right block.

[Memes]

Okay, that'll be great.

[Big Cat]

All right. So you're thinking Soupy though, even though the packers obviously looks really good, man.

[Fred Smoot]

The packers are scary. The Philadelphia Eagles are scary. And because we, we played this, the Eagles two to three times a year, they make me feel comfortable playing the packers of the world. Like I always told. I told people the other day, they were like, how you feel about this loss? I say I'm fine because if I got to play a team multiple times, I rather lose to him the first time. Yeah, like we lost to the packers the first time. I rather lose to him early than late. So I'm fine with that. I already know we. We're being tested by the best, so we're fine. I'm getting the questions I need answered. The question is how healthy are we gonna be? How healthy are they gonna be and who, who quarterback gonna be hot at the time? Hopefully our quarterback is hot at the time because we didn't start it off kind of slow right now.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

So I'M not scared of, of, of. Of Green Bay though. Cause we took their best shot and their score was not what it looked.

[Big Cat]

It was worse.

[Memes]

It was worse.

[Fred Smoot]

No, no. The score was what, 20, 20 to what?

[Memes]

I thought that we were. We were lucky to be in the game at the end.

[Fred Smoot]

I don't believe in luck. Either you're in the game or you're not.

[Memes]

Okay.

[Fred Smoot]

Like you, you. You just traveled on a short week where you literally had 48 hours of practice. You travel, you played this team at their home and you left out of there and you lost by what, 10. Oh yeah. I could take that.

[Memes]

Well, I mean if you're going. I hate that you turn me into the guy that's like pushing back against the commanders.

[Big Cat]

But I said no, no speak.

[Memes]

The, the key points you made. How do you play against those good teams? I don't think we played very well against. I, I thought that the packers were very clearly a much better team than we were. Yeah, I don't think it was close. And then two health wise. How did we get out of that game? Well, we lost Eckler, we lost Wise.

[Fred Smoot]

They lost Jalen Reed, they lost guys.

[Memes]

And our quarterback might be out this year like or for the next week.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I don't think that we had a good showing at all in Green Bay.

[Fred Smoot]

Hey, we went up there and it was built to ass.

[Hank]

All right. Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

But you know as a child when your dad. Kids are coming out of that bathroom, catch you just right because you did something wrong. You know, you could put that hand right there to stop. Stop that butt whooping a little bit.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

So we took a lid off of it. Yes. They thrashed us. They took advantage of the situation. They should have done it. It wasn't Jordan Love's best game. It wasn't that office of best game. They got one of the coldest defenses in the league right now. Now I want to see it travel though. I want to see that defense travel and play on the road. You can. It's easily when you invite me to your house and you beat me up. That's fine. What's going to happen later then? That's. That's the question. And they not going to be at the healthiest too. Like we all going to lose somebody.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Memes]

What about the Rams? Are the Rams in that cavo?

[Fred Smoot]

I like the Rams. And they always going to be long. They got Matthew Stafford. They're going to be in that window. I did you don't add a Devonte Adams to that with their defense and Williams and their running game, they got a chance. That's what I'm saying. Everybody looks at the Rams as this subtle threat, not this immense threat. Like all of a sudden, the packers are the immense threat. But guess what, people? Not even saying the super bowl champions are the miss threat.

[Hank]

They are.

[Fred Smoot]

Philadelphia Eagles are the apex predator threat.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I think it's because the Rams don't really blow people out.

[Big Cat]

No, they don't.

[Fred Smoot]

No. No, they don't.

[Memes]

You never see that from the Rams. It's always like, relatively close.

[Fred Smoot]

They don't push that issue once they get a clear path to victory. Victory.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

They take their foot off the break and they chill.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, so any teams that have, like, super impressed you through two weeks, I know it's still early, but are there any teams you're like, oh, wow.

[Fred Smoot]

Look, I told you, I took that shrapnel for them. Coach fans.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

For calling Daniel Jones the most regular name in America, which it is. So now he officially goes by Indiana Jones. I'm telling you, this Indiana Jones and that offense hasn't punted the ball yet. Jonathan Taylor is running like it's two, three years ago. Those wide receivers, tight end group, they're proven to not really have a clear cut weakness right now. All right, So I could say the Coats have really jumped off the screen. Like, even if they had lost the game, I'd still be like, that's a good football team. That's a legit good football team. So the Coats are that. And I just can't stop. Stop marveling about how good the Ravens make me feel even though they didn't lost the game.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Fred Smoot]

It's something. It feels like it's Lamar's time. Nobody can stop Derrick Henry. No, that defense is turning the corner like it's. It's layer cake on layer cake when it comes to them.

[Big Cat]

Let me ask you a question about that because I. I'm a big believer. Like, obviously, The Ravens, week one, giving.

[Fred Smoot]

Up 41 points, they were supposed to win a game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they were. But from a defensive perspective, playing in the league, like, I do think that one or two times, even the good defenses, one or two times a year, there will be one of those games that just gets out of control where it's like, that's not what they are, but that's what that game was. Is that fair?

[Fred Smoot]

That's so fair. Big Cat and I intended it to be a fart. It became a shard. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was innocent at first.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Until it wasn't.

[Big Cat]

And it's just game flow. It just everything goes.

[Fred Smoot]

Because that's the one thing think about. Defense is not guaranteed.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Just because you was good against them, that don't make you good against them. All right? And it's one of them things where it has an ebit flow to it, and it happens when it happens. And that's why people start to play better defense as the year go on compared to earlier in the year. So I do think that that Ravens defense, especially with Hamilton, Higgins, all those guys, they get Desir Alexander back. Like, yeah. They are, to me, the team to be in the AFC right now.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Memes]

Okay. So who outside the afc? Bill's obviously a threat. Are the Chiefs dead?

[Fred Smoot]

No, never. If you got Andy, you got Patrick Mahomes. Actually, to me, yeah, they are bigger threat.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Fred Smoot]

Because they are the threat that everybody said, you know what? They writing them off.

[Big Cat]

They're a hurt animal.

[Fred Smoot]

They're hurt. They're hurting deer, all right? They're hurt deer in the road. We ain't gonna let them make it. Where I'm from. Put him in the trunk. We gonna make sure we gonna get some business. That's what it is now what?

[Memes]

The Giants beat him, though. If they lose to the Giants Sunday.

[Fred Smoot]

Night, I'm still not worried. I'm just telling you, as a guy that played a decade in a division with Andy Reed, never worried about Andre. Just like I'm telling you, we just getting wore out by this dynasty. Like, this dynasty has been going so long. It's time for them to push the reset button on the dynasty. Like, they got a lot of old pieces that they used to winning with that they need to upgrade into new talent, New, faster talent, new, different talent. Like, they just. All they need to do, they need to do what New England did. Like, New England got to a point where we were winning with running game and defense, but now this Tom's dynasty.

[Hank]

Right.

[Fred Smoot]

So now we need to be more offensively explosive and less defensive. And that's what I think Kansas City gonna have to do. They're gonna have to rewrite their DNA.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

What about the. What about the Broncos? I know going in the season, everybody was talking about the Broncos defense and how that's a defense that can carry you to a chance championship.

[Fred Smoot]

That's what they did. They was the darlings.

[Memes]

They were. They were the Darlings. And then, you know, last week against the Colts, they didn't look good on defense at all. They turned the ball over a little bit, too, but they didn't look good on defense. Should we be concerned about the Broncos defense, which should have been the strength of their team, the Broncos?

[Fred Smoot]

Right. Now, a good analogy for this is.

[Memes]

A beauty queen, okay.

[Fred Smoot]

With a dead tooth in her mouth.

[Hank]

Oh, all right.

[Memes]

Who's the dead tooth?

[Fred Smoot]

The Broncos are the dead, too. The Bronco are this beautiful. This beautiful girl, but you haven't talked to her yet. All right, you walk up to her, you sit down. She's looking at you. Then you start to talk to her. You'd be like, yeah, I see why now that. That tooth in your mouth.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Had just killed everything I felt before I got here.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Fred Smoot]

Because the real. The real part. I got to see you from within. All right. They got growing to do just like us. Like, people want to crown us. Crown the Commanders, crown the Broncos. Two rookie quarterbacks outplayed they status. Not a team is better. They got two great coaches. And now we start and slow. And now people want to shy away from us. That ain't the way it go. Get a team some chance to mature. If your quarterback is only 20 games old, you still got some maturing to do.

[Big Cat]

All right, Fred, I got one last question for you. You always. Great having you on. Great.

[Hank]

I.

[Big Cat]

Are you enjoying working with man?

[Fred Smoot]

I enjoy working with.

[Big Cat]

I love having you.

[Fred Smoot]

This is my type of place. I like loose.

[Big Cat]

I like fun.

[Fred Smoot]

I like intelligent. I like real people.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's so fun having you here.

[Fred Smoot]

Real people place.

[Big Cat]

All right, so my last question. Roback question. RH, O, B, A, C, K.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. Fred, what's your middle name?

[Fred Smoot]

Not gonna tell you that. Catfish. I told you.

[Big Cat]

He told me before we started taping that he hated his middle name so much, he changed it to Dwayne, which is an awesome middle name.

[Memes]

I had always known you as Fred Dwayne Smooth.

[Fred Smoot]

That ain't my name.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Lee.

[Fred Smoot]

Think about me as an idiot, Lee. No, think about me as an idiot. Think about me as an idiot. I remember Wikipedia gave me a call my senior year at Mississippi State. They was like, what information do you want on your Wikipedia?

[Memes]

Wait, Wikipedia called you?

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah. This is the start of Wikipedia.

[Big Cat]

You remember?

[Fred Smoot]

It's like 2001. It's the start, okay? And they like. I was like, okay. And I was like, well, I'm not gonna put my real middle name down there. I was like, well, what should I give myself? And I was like, dwayne.

[Memes]

Good choice.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah. So Dwayne, that started it off and then everybody thought they was my middle name. Well, I say I did my job then. Cuz I want to make sure my identity could never get stolen.

[Hank]

Okay. Okay.

[Fred Smoot]

So the best way to do that is to flood it with. With not true information.

[Memes]

That's very smart.

[Fred Smoot]

So and so nobody ever second guessed it.

[Memes]

Let me see your driver's license. I won't tell anybody.

[Fred Smoot]

I'm not going to list. You know.

[Memes]

What is it? James?

[Fred Smoot]

Come here. Cuz. Cuz you. Cuz you are.

[Memes]

I'm in the trust.

[Big Cat]

What's the. What's the first letter? D. Of. Of your. Of your God's given name?

[Fred Smoot]

Yes, of my God given middle name.

[Big Cat]

Danielle. I'm never gonna say Danielle now.

[Fred Smoot]

You can never repeat this.

[Memes]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Because you probably ain't gonna be able to repeat it.

[Memes]

Not gonna say.

[Big Cat]

Is it bad?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Pfd. It's bad to your grade.

[Memes]

I get it.

[Hank]

I get it.

[Fred Smoot]

To your grade.

[Memes]

I'll never say it. I'll never say it. I'll never say it. But yeah. So I think you were correct to tell Wikipedia.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Dwayne and I found it funny.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

I found it real funny.

[Memes]

Dwayne Smoot.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Do you. Do you like working with Gruden?

[Fred Smoot]

I love it. I love. Like I've been around Groove so much. Plus I've been with his brother Jay.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Fred Smoot]

Back in Washington. Talked to his nephew Jack all the time. So I basically been a part of the Gruden family for a while. So me and coach already had a relationship. So it was easy with me and him. That's why it's seamless with me and him working together.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

It was great last week on Thursday I walked down to the kitchen area and it was just you and coach just talking ball.

[Fred Smoot]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And I just stood there and I just watched. I was. How lucky am I right now to be listening to these guys just arguing about football?

[Fred Smoot]

Just back and forth.

[Memes]

It was awesome.

[Fred Smoot]

Just back. And guess what? That's all the grooms. Jay is the same way. Jason. Jack is the same way. Like Jack would call me a two and a half, 2am in the morning. What are you doing, Fred? I'm sleep. What do you think I'm doing? I gotta ask you about this cornerback coming out of Texas A. Like that's who they are. It's football or nothing.

[Memes]

I love that.

[Hank]

That's great.

[Big Cat]

Well, Fred, you're the best. Love having you on. We'll do it again in a couple weeks. And thanks so much. And hopefully Jaden Daniels gets healthy.

[Fred Smoot]

Hey, man, let's make it happen.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Fred Smoot]

Pft.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Fred Smoot]

To the grave.

[Memes]

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[Big Cat]

Fire fest of the week.

[Hank]

Wrap it up.

[Big Cat]

Henry, our guy. Hank.

[Hank]

Hank. Hank. Hank.

[Memes]

You got this.

[Hank]

Hank. Hank. Hank.

[Big Cat]

I don't even know what you got, but you got this.

[Hank]

Hank. Hank. Hank.

[Memes]

I noticed memes didn't chant Hank. I was coughing.

[Big Cat]

He was coughing.

[Ike]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Fire fest.

[Ike]

It's kind of a weird one because it's kind of like a fire luck fest, but kind of a fire fest.

[Big Cat]

Fire luck fest.

[Ike]

I like. My car usually like automatically locks when I get out of it. If I have my key in my pocket, we.

[Big Cat]

Fire luck fest or lock fest?

[Hank]

Both.

[Memes]

Luck lock.

[Ike]

Kind of. Not really.

[Big Cat]

Luck lock.

[Memes]

Lock of the Irish.

[Hank]

Lock.

[Big Cat]

Lockwood.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ike]

I leave. I leave work the other day, I get in my car, I notice, like, what time? I don't know, 5, 5 o', clock, 5:30?

[Hank]

Half day.

[Ike]

Yeah, I guess. And I noticed that everything out of my glove compartment has been ripped out, and I have. I have my golf clubs. I have a bunch of stuff in my car, in the back of my car.

[Hank]

Car.

[Ike]

It clearly had. Someone had gone through my car. Like, the door was not locked. It was unlocked. Someone had went through it, and they had pulled everything out of my glove box. But, like, they didn't seem to take anything. And then I realized yesterday that they took. They just took my gym bag.

[Hank]

What the.

[Memes]

What'd you have in there?

[Ike]

Just gym clothes.

[Memes]

Oh, so just like, your sweaty underwear?

[Ike]

Yeah, it was just sweaty, like, a few shirts, but I had, like, my golf clubs, golf bag, shoes, a bunch of stuff in there.

[Big Cat]

Security tapes.

[Ike]

I did not. Because I didn't. I didn't. I didn't realize that it was gone for, like, four days after the fact. Like, I was just like, oh, someone's.

[Big Cat]

Trying to get you so you don't work out.

[Ike]

I guess. Yeah, it was. It was. But I. I feel lucky that that's all they took.

[Big Cat]

This is unfair, because if Max or I had this story, people would be like, oh, someone stole your gym stuff.

[Memes]

Keep continuing. So there's a word. The world's dumbest theme. I guess.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ike]

I don't know if they were. I don't know if they were just trying. Like, they maybe were just trying to do it quick. So it was, like, in the middle of the day, and they just tried to hope that there was, like, a bunch of cash in there. I'm not really sure.

[Memes]

You didn't have any cash?

[Ike]

I had some. I had gym shoes, but, you know, I've had them for a little while. You know, I lost probably two pairs of shorts, a few pairs of boxers, like, four shirts.

[Memes]

What'd you get for working out?

[Hank]

Out.

[Memes]

For having such a great bod.

[Ike]

But, yeah, I feel lucky. But it's a little bit. It's a little bit eerie being like, oh, this. That's kind of weird that, like.

[Memes]

Yeah, it could have been any of us after they.

[Ike]

Also, in my glove box, there was a pair of sunglasses, which, again, they didn't take that I thought I had lost, like, a year ago.

[Big Cat]

That's weird.

[Memes]

Oh, so you.

[Hank]

You.

[Memes]

I kind of found.

[Ike]

Yeah, I gained sunglasses.

[Big Cat]

Kind of a good trade.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You can always get more shorts. We get free shorts all the time.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ike]

So, yeah, just a little. Little bizarre.

[Memes]

You got to go through that footage.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ike]

I don't know if it goes back that far.

[Big Cat]

I'm sure we.

[Ike]

Last week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we can get it. We can get it. We'll get this perp. What if it was just. What if it was Max trying to get more in shape.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ike]

Or like spider. Yeah.

[Memes]

It's the perfect crime. Who stole my gym accessories? It was Max.

[Max]

Now I would steal.

[Hank]

All right. Pft.

[Memes]

Mine's also car related. You might recall, a couple years ago, got a new car. Hank put up a pole in the parking lot and didn't mark it fairly. And I accidentally drove my car into it.

[Big Cat]

Couldn't have seen it coming.

[Memes]

Didn't see it. Was not. Someone had tried to take off some of the yellow reflective paint that was initially put on there.

[Hank]

Right.

[Memes]

Mystery person is unnamed, But I was taken out to the car wash last weekend. And as I went through the car wash, getting it cleaned off, because it was just in that. In the tow impound lot where I recovered it from last week, it was covered in dust and had stickers all over it. So I had to pull it into the car wash, get it cleaned off. Then I said, you know what? Let's take care of the inside. Let's vacuum out the interior a little bit. So as I pulled in this parking spot and started to vacuum, a guy pulled up in the spot next to me, and he got out of his car, and he's like, hey, man, that's a beautiful car you have. And I was like, why does this guy think my. My car is not beautiful? It's just like a pretty normal car.

[Hank]

Right?

[Memes]

I'm not talking about the el camino. If it's el camino, be like, right on, brother.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

But this guy was, yeah, you have a. A beautiful car. I love that car. And I was like, thank you. He's like, I. I work with those cars all the time. I can. I resell them all the time. They're my favorite car in the entire world. I was thinking, this guy's laying on pretty thick about a pretty normal car. What's his angle for me? And so I told him, hey, I'm not going to sell it. He's like, no, I'm not asking about selling it. It's a perfect car, except it's got that dent in the side of it. And I was like, yeah, it does have that dent. And, yeah, my. My co worker essentially assaulted my car.

[Big Cat]

Your boss?

[Hank]

My.

[Memes]

My boss. All of our bosses assaulted my car. And he was like, I can get that out for you, because I work in a body shop. I was like, I'm not taking into a body shop. And he's like, no, I can do it right now because I've got All the tools with me. My boss, he knows that I take the tools home sometimes, but I can do that. They'll charge you $3,000 at the body shop. I can do it right now for $200. And I was like, what a deal. What a deal. What a great deal.

[Hank]

And.

[Memes]

But he was being, like, super forceful. He was, like, trying to push me into closing the deal right there. And I was like, give me your card and I'll give you a call. And if I. I want to get it repaired, then I'll drive it and to you, and you can, like, pop it out. It's whatever. He's like, do me a favor. Go sit in your car right now. Go sit in your car. Because I've got the stuff right here, and I can pull it out as we sit here. The only thing is, your car might go backwards because I'm gonna pull it really hard when I pull that thin out. So I need you to put your foot on the brake as I pop this thing out. And then I thought to myself, you know what? Realistically, I'm not going to take my car into a body shop. It's been two years. I haven't gotten it fixed yet. I'm just not going to get it fixed. But this guy, this angel, appeared before my very eyes and said he would fix it for the low price of 200 bucks. And he's like, also, I see those scratches on the side. Was that from your boss in that same pole? I was like, yes, it is.

[Hank]

Is.

[Memes]

He's like, I got this epoxy that I can rub on it, and it'll fill in those scratches, so I'll take care of the scratches, too.

[Hank]

All right?

[Memes]

So I get my car, I put my foot on the brake, hear popping sound, and then I come out, and it's got all the foam on it from all the epoxy. He's like, you're gonna be good. Just when you get home, wait a couple hours and then wipe it down and get all that stuff. All the foam that I put on the side off, and the scratches will be filled in. Gotta let it set for a little bit. I was like, okay, cool, cool. He's like, it's 200 bucks. I gave him more. I gave him 250 bucks because I was like, what a great guy this. This dude is. Just, like, saved me days of my life where I'd have to drive my car in, pick my car up, that whole thing. And then I got home later on, it was dark outside. Went out, wiped it Down. And then I was thinking to myself on the couch that's. That was a really weird interaction.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

That was really, really strange because he had his girlfriend with him and he kept yelling stuff at his girlfriend and the guy did. It was. The red flags were up. So I just looked up online car dent repair scam. And then it's like nine pages.

[Big Cat]

Oh no.

[Memes]

Of step by step exactly what this guy did to me. And I like to consider myself to be pretty good at not getting scammed. I like to think that my antenna is up and it's tough to fool me. This guy just absolutely took me to the cleaners. I went back out to my car. The dent's still there. Oh, the scratches are all still there.

[Hank]

There.

[Memes]

Nothing's better whatsoever. And it's not. It's the 250 bucks. Whatever. It's not the end of the world.

[Big Cat]

Great deal.

[Memes]

It was a great deal at the time. I couldn't say no. It's more about me having to reckon with the fact that I got got.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was gonna say, I don't know if you can say you're good at avoiding scams anymore.

[Memes]

I used to not be.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Because that's the trick.

[Big Cat]

As you were telling that story, I was just like, this is. This doesn't feel right.

[Memes]

No, it didn't feel right at all. And I'm such a. I'm an idiot for him being like. Like go sit in your car and put your foot on the brake. Like my car, it was in park, right. Like it was going to roll away because this guy was so strong that just like break my parking gear. So yeah, I got got. My car's still dented, it's still scratched and I'm never going to fix it. And I'm out to until I run in the next guy who offers me that same deal.

[Big Cat]

But that guy will be for real.

[Memes]

That guy's that guy. What I learned, the guy that I ran into on Saturday, that guy was not the official wallet inspector.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So dent repair scams often involve unsolicited individuals in parking lots offering quick, cheap dent fixes that end up causing more damage and leaving victims with costly repairs. Key red flags include aggressive sales tax, Check. A focus on cash only payments, check.

[Memes]

Well, no, I did. I did. Vinmo.

[Hank]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Promises of same day repairs. Check. And inability to provide a written contract or online presence, Check. And claims that you should should not remove a wax like substance they apply to the vehicle.

[Hank]

Check.

[Memes]

Yeah, that's how he got me. He's like, you gotta you gotta wait to take this thing off because otherwise the scratches won't be filled in.

[Big Cat]

So was there a moment when you were taking it off where you're like, oh, this is fixed? And you're like, yeah.

[Memes]

No. Even after I. I wiped it down the next day, I was like, maybe he actually really did fix my car. Maybe this guy wasn't a scammer. Because at night I waited a few hours, and then it was Saturday night.

[Hank]

Right.

[Memes]

Then I wiped it down, but I couldn't see if it was gone yet.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

So then I had to recheck the work. And yeah, I was thinking maybe. Maybe this guy is actually the one legitimate version.

[Hank]

Damn.

[Memes]

So, yeah, I got got. That's fine. It happens.

[Big Cat]

That's brutal.

[Memes]

I still have never replied to one of those texts that say, like, you owe money for a toll.

[Big Cat]

True. Our boss.

[Memes]

So at least there's that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, our boss did. All right. My fire fest. We already talked about my golf game. I got to get better.

[Hank]

Better.

[Big Cat]

Got a. Just a terrible experience being that bad amongst people who are good. Apologies for having a bad attitude, but I don't know how you could have a good attitude when you suck that bad and you're letting your teammates down. Sucked. Couldn't help at all being a teammate and not being able to help at all. Really bad feeling.

[Memes]

But imagine how bad it would be if you, like, played golf a lot. And yeah, you expected more out of yourself.

[Hank]

True.

[Memes]

Like what. What did you expect. Expect was going to happen?

[Big Cat]

Not hitting the ball five feet multiple times. My other firefest is actually Zach's fire fest car related.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

We got insurance for the new Vanny Woodhead, and Zach got denied the insurance, so he will not be driving Vanny Woodhead.

[Memes]

You got denied. Turns out denied coverage.

[Big Cat]

Go ahead. You don't have my con.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Why did they. Did they say why it was denied?

[Big Cat]

I think it was the. The time on this podcast and the yak that you've said you've been in four different accidents.

[Zach (car accident story)]

That makes sense.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Probably.

[Memes]

You've been in or caused.

[Zach (car accident story)]

I just a few of those. We were just. I was in the car.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, one of them. You were in the car, huh?

[Memes]

Well, you were in the car for all.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Yeah, actually, yes, I was in the car for all of them. Not behind the wheel for all of them. That does make a lot more sense.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach (car accident story)]

That's not good.

[Big Cat]

No, that's all right. It's probably better that you don't drive it because you've been in four accidents.

[Memes]

Zach, I got a question. Yes, sir. You're driving to Bloomington tomorrow, right?

[Zach (car accident story)]

Yes, sir.

[Memes]

Are you driving?

[Zach (car accident story)]

I think we might split it up just because it's several hours. Yeah, but I did. Look, I did some research into the average amount of accidents that adults have, and it says like. Like three to four accidents.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but that's what age. You're 27. You've been in four.

[Hank]

Four.

[Memes]

Yeah, I think that's like a lifetime thing, but.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Oh, so I could. So I might have the age ranges wrong.

[Big Cat]

Yes, you might be done. You can't. You're done. You're not gonna have any more accidents. Quite.

[Zach (car accident story)]

It has been quite a while.

[Memes]

That was a great.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wait, so when was the last one?

[Zach (car accident story)]

Several years ago.

[Big Cat]

How many.

[Memes]

How old were you?

[Zach (car accident story)]

I was like. Like five. Between four to seven years ago.

[Big Cat]

Like a while ago. So that's. So you got into four accidents in the first, like six years of you driving?

[Zach (car accident story)]

I had a bad start.

[Hank]

Yeah. Okay.

[Memes]

Have you. Have you been driving a lot since?

[Zach (car accident story)]

I. Yeah, I. I've had a car. I. I stopped driving when I moved here. Didn't bring a. Didn't bring a car with me. But before then I was driving all the time. It's like one of my favorite ways to spend, like a Sunday.

[Fred Smoot]

You just.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Just hop in the car, go for a cruise.

[Max]

The average is one accident every 18 years of driving.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so. So you.

[Max]

That math, that's no good for you.

[Big Cat]

That's no good. That's no good. So you basically need to go accident list for the next like 50 years to get back to the average.

[Zach (car accident story)]

I think I got that in me.

[Memes]

Are you a distracted driver?

[Zach (car accident story)]

Not a distracted driver. One of the accidents, I was distracted.

[Hank]

That.

[Zach (car accident story)]

But that was so long ago. Like, you live and learn, I think. I think accidents are like a health. You develop a healthy respect for the road when you get into an accident. Like a lot of people, people out there who don't get into crashes, they're texting, driving all the time, doing their makeup, all sorts of things, taking other people's life, like putting other people's lives at risk. If you get an accident out the way early, preferably not on like a highway somewhere, like a 35, 45 mile, mile an hour speed limit. You have a healthy respect for the road.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And if you have four of those, then you really respect the road.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Also, too many accidents.

[Big Cat]

Also, Zach has been in accidents where I. I think. Am I right? Four times. One of them you weren't driving, but all four times or no, three out.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Of four, you got hit My side got hit.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Every single time he's been hit.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Yeah. The only time my side didn't get hit was when the accident was my fault.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But every other time, he just. Wherever Zach sits in the car, he gets hit.

[Memes]

Is everybody okay?

[Zach (car accident story)]

Light injuries?

[Max]

No.

[Zach (car accident story)]

No ambulance, so no.

[Hank]

Well, the.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Not in our car. There was a. There was this one time a woman did run a stop sign. She had to go to the hospital.

[Memes]

Yeah, but it was her fault.

[Zach (car accident story)]

It was her fault. Yes, but she had, like, an older vehicle, like, the front end squished up real pretty good.

[Big Cat]

He got hit, but he. We don't know. We don't actually know what ended up happening with her.

[DraftKings Ad]

They wouldn't tell me.

[Zach (car accident story)]

No, they said that was, like, none of my. Pretty much none of my business.

[Memes]

Yeah, but that. That was not your fault, to be clear.

[Zach (car accident story)]

No, that. That accident was not my fault at all. I still felt horrible that she was hurt enough to have to go the hospital.

[Memes]

Hospital, though.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

All right, well.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Good luck, Zach.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Thank you.

[Hank]

Pft.

[Zach (car accident story)]

I'm gonna try to continue the no accident streak. Sorry I let you down on the insurance, Big cat.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't give a. Okay, it's fine.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Memes]

We could try to drive Vinnie. Well, we might just have to try to get, like, a really hilariously cheap insurance company.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, was. It's no big deal.

[Ike]

Your guy probably knows the guy.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

No, he doesn't.

[Zach (car accident story)]

I did have.

[Memes]

That guy doesn't know anyone. That guy's a. Everyone he meets, he just scams.

[Big Cat]

What are you gonna say?

[Zach (car accident story)]

I did have active car insurance until I moved here.

[Hank]

Yeah, I guess.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Maybe not van sized. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Jacob got Jay, I think.

[Fred Smoot]

Jacob.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Jacob's. Jacob's good. Jacob's clear.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

What's your fire fest?

[Zach (car accident story)]

My fire fest this week is over the last couple of days, I've kind of developed my wisdom. One of my wisdom teeth may be impacted. I know. Well, I'm a little bit late in life for that. And the first couple days, I thought it was something I could shake off. This is a debilitating.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Situation.

[Big Cat]

Like, you're gonna have to get him out.

[Zach (car accident story)]

I think so. I think so.

[Big Cat]

And you're also gonna have to podcast right after you get him out for us.

[Memes]

Zach after dentist.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Oh, on the.

[Big Cat]

I'll pick you up.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

And then we'll have you sit right there right after, while you're still a little up. That's terrifying.

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's actually been seven accidents.

[Memes]

He starts telling us exactly Good. It might just fix itself because in, like, 2016, right after I moved to New York, my wisdom teeth were all up. And I told the guys, like, hey, I have to figure out a time where I can get my wisdom teeth out and we can still do the pod. So I waited like, a weekend, and then it just got better. And next time I went to the dentist, they were like, yeah, you need to get all four of yours out. Still haven't done done it yet.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Neither have I, knock on wood.

[Big Cat]

It's not fun.

[Zach (car accident story)]

No, I'm full pop right now. I have them all still in. This side was good. Never had any issues. This one, I thought I would just, like, shake it off. Like, I don't have to actually go to the dentist. Like, what are we doing?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach (car accident story)]

And then now it's like turning my head the wrong way. It's not good every time I hit the steps. Going on the steps is a nightmare. For some reason.

[Big Cat]

You can't go on steps.

[Fred Smoot]

I can.

[Zach (car accident story)]

It just. It just irritates it. I don't know if it's the pressure.

[Memes]

Or what, but what did people do before they. You were able to just get your teeth pulled out?

[Zach (car accident story)]

I think they pulled them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Even if they were, like, under the skin. George Washington, just, like, slice into them.

[Big Cat]

You got all new teeth.

[Max]

You guys should go together also.

[Big Cat]

Zach, can I get it via spin zone?

[Zach (car accident story)]

Yes, sir.

[Big Cat]

This is going to be huge for the weight loss.

[Zach (car accident story)]

It has been. I can't eat or I haven't been able to eat or drink.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Fred Smoot]

And.

[Big Cat]

And when you get them out, you're. You, like, can't eat solids for, like, four or five days.

[Max]

You know, you can eat.

[Zach (car accident story)]

That could be good for the scale.

[Max]

Actually, I don't know if you can eat ice cream.

[Memes]

I think you can, but it's.

[Zach]

You can.

[Max]

Oh, you can. Oh, you're gonna eat so much ice cream.

[Memes]

It's gonna be awesome.

[Zach]

You just gotta do sugar free.

[Memes]

Zach, let me know when you're gonna get yours out. We might. We might do a date.

[Big Cat]

You know, two, man.

[Hank]

The.

[Zach (car accident story)]

The dentist.

[Memes]

I gotta get mine out at some point.

[Zach (car accident story)]

Two guys ate wisdom teeth.

[Hank]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Memes]

We could sell them memes. Do you have a fire fest? I had a conversation with memes off air.

[Big Cat]

I. Nah, it's.

[Memes]

It's regarding the upcoming NFL weekend, so I feel like we. We do have to cover it.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, we have to cover it.

[Memes]

No, we were talking about the Jets. Couple guys talking about.

[Zach]

This is all. This is off Mike stuff.

[Memes]

Couple guys Talk about the jets and meme said if we lose to the Bucks.

[Zach]

No. If the Bucks.

[Memes]

No, I'm g. I'm going to tell it from the beginning. So we can't lose to the Bucks and we're like memes. You're. You're an underdog this weekend. The Jets. It would be great if they won. They have a good chance at winning. But like I. You shouldn't say if we lose. This is.

[Hank]

Is.

[Memes]

This is nightmare. He's. He wants Aaron Glenn fired.

[Hank]

What?

[Memes]

Already?

[Big Cat]

Wait, so when we referenced that earlier, when you're like some of the fan base and media. Yeah, it's you.

[Memes]

He's talking about him.

[Big Cat]

No, you are. You're fan and media.

[Zach]

I was saying if. If the. If the defense gets embarrassed by an all backup offensive line.

[Memes]

You said he's probably fine. You said if they. If they score four touchdowns. If the Bucks score four touchdowns.

[Zach]

Yeah. Another report came out that the left guard is also didn't practice say.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Zach]

They might just not have an offensive line. So as a defensive coach, you should be able to scheme something up that.

[Memes]

Works in your favor in theory.

[Zach]

I agree in theory.

[Memes]

But to want. Want him fired if you guys lose like 28 to 20 and you want Aaron Glenn fired in week three of.

[Max]

A rebound build as seven point dogs.

[Zach]

As ten point dogs. If they get embarrassed.

[Big Cat]

What's the. What's the numbers three that you.

[Zach]

What the can't.

[Big Cat]

You can't lose by 22.

[Hank]

33.

[Ike]

Yeah, I would say all those.

[Memes]

28.

[Big Cat]

No, three actually would be fine.

[Zach]

I would say 28 to three.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Three. Three would be fine.

[Memes]

That'd be funny. If you guys fell behind 28 to three and then you never scored. You're like, we got them.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach]

It's a must compete game.

[Memes]

You want them fired.

[Zach]

Must compete.

[Big Cat]

Must compete.

[Zach]

Must compete. I want to see a competitive football team against a team that has 2% of their offense.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Must compete. Must compete.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Three, 33.

[Ike]

22.

[Memes]

Damn it, 28.

[Zach]

We'll go two for to Rod.

[Big Cat]

I think I found that. I think I found the new hack. If you're talking two memes when you say it it. He's not going to be able to.

[Memes]

If he's thinking about the Jets.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

If he's. It's like a dog with a treat.

[Big Cat]

If you're jets talk at the end of every show.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

You can't get distracted by anything.

[Fred Smoot]

99 put 1976 memes.

[Big Cat]

What's your number?

[Zach]

2T.

[Hank]

677.

[Big Cat]

6 7.

[Memes]

I know what that means. Love you guys.