NFL With Greg Olsen, Goose The Band In Studio, CFB, Are The Ravens In Trouble + Pardon Your Takes

Summary

Pardon My Take – NFL With Greg Olsen, Goose The Band In Studio, CFB, Are The Ravens In Trouble + Pardon Your Takes

Date: September 24, 2025
Hosts: Big Cat, PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Guests: Greg Olsen (NFL analyst, former tight end), Goose (jam band)

Episode Overview

This PMT episode blends detailed NFL discussion – especially Lions vs. Ravens and the AFC landscape – with college football talk and an in-studio interview with Goose, the rising jam band. The hosts analyze major Week 3 NFL storylines, debate the state of the Ravens, celebrate the Lions, and touch on pressing College Football issues (coaching drama, "is Miami back?"). There's also signature bantering (fashion beef, umpire jokes), listener Q&A, and a unique window into Goose’s touring life and music philosophy.

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Key Segments & Timestamps

1. NFL Recap: Lions vs. Ravens, Are the Ravens Fraudulent?

04:00 – 18:30

• Lions' Statement Win:

  • Lions dominate on Monday Night Football, handling Lamar Jackson and "putting the Ravens in a playoff-loss script."
  • Praise for Jared Goff's stats, Dan Campbell's aggressive decision-making ("he's secretly a nerd who's using the numbers")
  • Quote, Big Cat (05:25):
    • “I would have been stunned… if they didn’t go for it on 4th and 2. Of course, Dan Campbell was going for it.”

• Ravens' Woes

  • Offensive mistakes in high-leverage moments (Derrick Henry fumbles, questionable red zone play calling)
  • Defensive collapses: Gave up two 95+ yard drives, a stat they hadn't allowed since 2001
  • Quote, PFT (08:28):
    • “Do you trust the Ravens? I don’t, because they just keep doing the things that drive me insane…”

• Derrick Henry Fumbles & Mentality:

  • Not all fumbles equal—Aiden Hutchinson’s punch-out highlighted
  • Caution about “fumblitis” and how thinking about fumbles hurts performance
  • Quote, Big Cat (12:39):
    • “Derrick Henry just got halfway to Emmitt Smith’s carries after 10 years. Shows how much less they run backs now.”

• AFC Playoff Landscape

  • Chiefs/Ravens looming matchup (“Is it panic button for the loser?”)
  • Which 1-3 team (if either loses) is better positioned?
  • Discussion of Chiefs' and Ravens' schedules; questioning if the AFC falls off after Bills/Chargers

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2. News & NFL Observations

18:30 – 24:50

• Chiefs offense limping; Mahomes “not quite the same”
• Giants’ coaching/quarterback drama
• Falcons/Commanders talk—signs of trouble when coordinators are shuffled
• Quick notes on Vikings’ defense turnaround (Brian Flores)
• 49ers’ injury curse strikes again (Nick Bosa’s “clean ACL tear”): “Greatest ACL tear of all time.”

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3. College Football Rundown

25:15 – 48:40

• Weekend Preview

  • Whiteout at Penn State, Oregon–Penn State: “Big game for James Franklin”
  • Massive Saturday slate: USC-Illinois, Ohio State-Washington, LSU-Ole Miss

• Winners of the Weekend:

  • Indiana and Texas Tech (“put everyone on notice”, “brazen about oil money roster”)

• Program Trouble Talk:

  • Long segment about 3 programs "in crisis":
    • Wisconsin: Big Cat’s soul-search, “dark, dark times,” lack of football admin commitment
    • Clemson: Dabo “outwardly hostile” to fans, admits “Maybe we just suck.”
    • Oklahoma State: Mike Gundy fired during taping (43:36)
  • Analysis: The common thread is older coaches/programs not adapting to NIL/portal era

• Style Points, Coaching Trees:

  • Indiana’s Signetti called a maniac, “Saban-esque,” obsessed with “style points”
  • Texas Tech’s open spending and new identity lauded

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4. Guest Interview: Greg Olsen

71:20 – 116:10

Fashion “Beef” w/ Dave Portnoy

• Responds to the "umpire outfit" roast, confirms it’s friendly ball-busting (“if your buddies make fun of you, make fun of them back”).
• Greg (73:04):
  • “We bust each other’s balls a lot… of course I don’t hate him.”

Inside the Booth: NFL Insights

• Eagles & Rams pegged as most impressive (“Eagles finally started letting Hurts play QB in second half”)
• Modern NFL = “Every field goal is a bad play, unless it’s 4th and long”
  • “The days of taking the points and playing for field position are over.” (77:41)

On Risk-Taking Coaches:

• Praises Dan Campbell’s willingness to stand at the podium and “take the hit” for aggression

Broadcast Prep & Tom Brady’s Raiders Role:

• Only “one or two” nuggets from production meetings typically make it to air
• Not all teams offer the same info: some give real insight, others default to “press conference mode”
• “If you don’t want to tell Tom [Brady] anything, that’s their prerogative as a team”

Mental Side of the Game:

• “Yips,” confidence, how fumble spells and drops get in your head
• If you over-focus on fumbles “it almost makes it worse”
• Teams starting 0-3: “That’s where leadership is tested – some start talking about wins, others just try to stack a good Wednesday practice.”

Best NFL Victory Tradition:

• Early-career: Big nights out in Chicago after wins (“you walk into Joe’s and the city gives you an ovation”)
• Later years: “Just drive through McDonald’s, 20 nuggets and a Coke, and collapse on the couch”

On Miami (his alma mater):

• “Our back is really, really good… Mario Cristobal’s not going to let them rest”

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5. Guest Interview: Goose (the Band)

117:33 – 156:18

Life on Tour & in the Studio

• They don’t overthink post-show analysis—may talk right away or just play Super Smash Bros.
• Coming down from a show “takes a couple hours; hard to sleep right away” (119:40)

Approach to Albums vs Live Shows:

• Not all jam bands make good albums—Goose tries to be the exception:
  • “We just like making albums… shows are always happening, but recording is special time.”
• Studio vs live: Focus on what’s best for the format; leave space for improvisation live.
• Setlists: Data-driven (city, last played, stats), also leaving space for intuition and improvisation

How it Feels When It “Clicks”:

• Some nights you know instantly, “the hose is active”; sometimes it emerges second set
• The crowd can be the difference-maker, especially for jam bands
• Shared “peaks” on stage: “That’s the goal—when we all peak at the same time”

Start of Their Rise:

• 2018 show in Covington, KY, where a group of rowdy fans (“Flavortown crew”) knew every word
• From van life and radio handle “Nightshade” to headlining major venues

Genre Loyalty & Gatekeeping

• Commentary on jam band gatekeeping: “It’s like sports—people get passionate, but at the end of the day, it’s about loving the genre.”
• On why their music is a gateway band for non-jam fans:
  • “You never know which song or show will hit someone—it’s about getting the bug.”

Influence & Philosophy

• All grew up with varying influences (metal to Zappa to Fleet Foxes), less judgmental with age
• Not worried about AI: “Robots can’t play a sick live show or make beautiful mistakes—bad shows prove we’re human.”

Trey Anastasio’s Impact:

• Playing with Phish’s lead “surreal,” a “knighting” moment
• “He’s such a kind, gracious guy you can forget how insane it is—sometimes he just wants to keep sitting in with us.”

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6. Hot Seat / Cool Throne

50:23 – 71:12

• Brandle Chamblee:

  • Put on blast for accusing Bryson DeChambeau of using “bots” to juice YouTube views

• Ryder Cup Hype:

  • Banter about Ryder Cup hype videos coming too early
  • Golf “not really a hype sport”—hype videos should drop closer to weekend (52:14)

• College Football Drama:

  • Lane Kiffin’s daughter “hard-launches” her relationship with LSU linebacker, sparking debate if it’s a distraction for Ole Miss or LSU

• Relationships & PMT Crew:

  • Ongoing jokes about who will be invited to whom’s wedding, whether the crew would actually travel for each other

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7. Listener Takes & Pardon Your Takes

159:02 – End

• Hilarious groomsman hypotheticals, “what ifs” in sports (Bledsoe/Brady, Belichick Jets/Browns), and the concept of refs using POV cams for transparency
• PFT and Big Cat riffing on the odds of anyone guessing the “Lottery Ball” (a long-running PMT trope)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you don’t know Dan Campbell by now, you’ll never understand the man… he’s the worst type of nerd for nerds, because he’s also a tough guy.” – PFT (05:46)
• “I’m kind of sick of the Ravens… they just keep doing the things that drive me insane.” – Big Cat (08:29)
• “It’s like, do you trust the Ravens? I don’t. Every big game… they just make these mistakes.” – PFT (10:10)
• “In today’s NFL, every field goal is a bad play unless it’s a 50-yarder on 4th and long.” – Greg Olsen (77:41)
• “It’s not a fumble problem [for Henry], the bigger issue is he might start running tight and hurt his game.” – Greg Olsen (90:50)
• “Wisconsin’s in a really bad spot, like, I’m reminiscing about the good old days because the present is so painful.” – Big Cat, on Badgers malaise (36:32)
• “Dabo is now openly hostile to Clemson fans… he even said ‘maybe we just suck.’” – PFT (40:56)
• “Nobody’s happy about NIL, but you gotta get with the times. Fix it, or you’re cooked.” – Big Cat (43:08)
• On Goose’s IMPROV: “The best is when we all peak at the same time.” (127:42)
• “Robots can never play a sick live show... our mistakes prove we’re human, AI-proof.” – Goose member (153:51)

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Irreverent, opinionated, and knowledgeable sports analysis—the self-branded “loudest and most correct sports takes.”
• Willingness to embrace the data-ification and new wave of modern football while still lamenting old-school collapse stories and coaching foibles.
• Frequent digressions and playful feuding among hosts and guests, keeping the show lively.
• Goose’s segment gives a rare peek behind the curtain for a successful touring band and serves as a fun, outsider counterpoint to the sports grind.
• The episode, as always, is as much about friendship, banter, and self-deprecation as it is the substance of sports.

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For First-Time Listeners/Newcomers

This episode is a prototypical PMT product: digestible analysis for both diehards and casuals, a window into the NFL and CFB’s weird vibes, and offbeat interviews with guests who fit the show’s “jam band” energy. Expect plenty of “inside jokes,” but you’ll get up to speed on NFL hot seats, college football chaos, and what it’s like when a band catches lightning in a bottle.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Greg Olson]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they were awesome and this was a great game. The football was good on Monday Night Football, which we need to remember as we're looking ahead. We always say, like, if you get a bad game, just, just wait a little bit. The NFL will have a way of figuring out. We'll we'll be rewarded for our patience dealing with the if we can get to a good prime time game like this, we actually need to put this one in the spank bank for next weekend. Yeah, for next Monday night because we're going to need it to get through those two double headers.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Next weekend. But yeah, it was a great game. The Ravens didn't play that bad. The Lions were dominant on defense in terms of sacking Lamar and getting to Lamar. I you rarely see people like be able to bring Lamar down one on one when he's trying to get out of the pocket. Yeah, the Lions were doing that Consistently. The Lions offense is awesome. They're back where they used to be.

[Big Cat]

Jared Goff.

[PFT Commenter]

Jared Goff. If you look at Jared Goff stats since he became a Lion, you could make the argument that statistically he's the best quarterback in the NFL. He's awesome by the stats, by the numbers, in terms of like yards, touchdowns, all that stuff. He's awesome. That was great to watch. The aggressiveness from Dan Campbell continues to be awesome.

[Big Cat]

Well, so, so I wanted to talk about that because we're going to talk about the Ravens, but I want to give the Lions their flowers. I, I don't know if you had the same thought, but when it was fourth and two with two minutes left, I would have been. It's, it's like everything is flipped now. I would have been stunned. Floor jaw on the, on the floor. If they didn't go for it. Yeah. And like they went to a commercial break. I was like, of course they're gonna go for this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they're gonna go for it. They're gonna win the game. That's what Dan Campbell's gonna do every time. If you don't know Dan Campbell by now, you'll never understand the man. And he is quietly a nerd. He does every. He's like the worst type of nerd for nerds because they're like, this guy is not allowed to use our data and be so smart. Cuz he's also a tough guy and an alpha male and the classic central casting football coach.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

He doesn't just go with his gut. He actually goes with the numbers. And the numbers have it every single time. Dan Cable goes for it on a fourth down, it's not because he's in like it mode. I'm Dan Campbell. I've got a, a, a wad of chew in my, in my cheek the size of Texas. It's Dan Campbell. The thinking man's Dan Campbell.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And it was, I think a plus 2% win probability, which isn't a lot. That's pretty much one of those toss up situations. But it was still like leaning towards going for it, being the smart call. And with that offense and with Jared Goff and St. Brown, you go for that every time.

[Big Cat]

Well, and the genius of that play is the, the tiny details of what the Lions are. They have a bunch of wide receivers, specifically Iman, Iman Ross St. Brown, who is awesome in the run game in terms of blocking. And that play was set up to look like a run where the defensive holding, which they didn't even need because it ended up working. But the defensive holding is because Amon Ross St. Brown was doing what you'd think in a run play where he is blocking and then he slips out and gets free and like. So that all is built up in how they play football and how their wide receivers are willing to block without the rock. And the Lions are really good. And I agree with you. I was. I don't know if the Lions, like did something different or practice something different, but it felt like for the first time in a long time, I was watching a defense be able to get to Lamar. And also not even like this. He was sacked a bunch and Aiden Hutchinson was an absolute beast. He is fully back. But the way they were able to trip him up a bunch where it's like, even when he was scrambling, they were able to like, I don't know if they specifically practice, like just go for his feet the whole time, get his feet. Because it felt like they did that multiple times with where we're used to Lamar getting free and they were able to take a dive at his feet and trip him up and sack him from behind. And I don't know what, I don't know what the Ravens were doing. I feel like I, I'm kind of sick of the Ravens.

[PFT Commenter]

So I think the Ravens are a good football team, but this is, this was a playoff type loss for the Ravens.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[PFT Commenter]

You could see this exact same game plan working its way out in January at some point. So it's like I. The Ravens are a great team and they'll beat a lot of, a lot of teams this year. They'll have a great record. But do you trust the Ravens?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you trust them? I don't because I do not trust.

[Big Cat]

They keep doing the things that drive me insane with the Ravens. They are so good. Lamar is so good. Derrick Henry in short yarded situations on the goal line just doesn't work. I don't know why they keep doing it.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he not a good short yardage runner?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you. Yeah. The take has been there for a long time on this show.

[PFT Commenter]

So he, he also just has a fumbling problem right now.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

He's fumbled three times on 43 touches in 20, 25. If you look through the course of his career, he's had like maybe one season where he had six fumbles, one where he had five. But most of them are like two fumbles a year, three fumbles a year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's not, he's not a fumbler.

[PFT Commenter]

He's not a fumble guy. I actually, there are fumble guys from. Andre Stevenson is a fumble guy. All right.

[Big Cat]

Remember, Tiki Barber was a fumble guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Fumble guy.

[Big Cat]

Then he had to. He learned how to hold it high and tight. I actually don't. As unfortunate as it was for Derek Henry to fumble again in a big moment, that one was just an incredible play by Aiden Hutchinson. I think 99% of the running backs fumble on.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a great play by Ed Oliver, too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right. So it's like, is it a fumble problem or are they just making incredible plays? Because that Aiden Hutchinson play was incredible. I mean, he came from behind and punched it out so perfectly that I think most guys do fumble in that situation. It just happens that the Ravens have played two primetime games and we've had two very notable fumbles from Derrick Henry. He fumbled in the second game as well. But those, those stick with you. So I don't know if it's a Derek Henry fumble problem. I'm just more like, I don't know what the Ravens like they were. Lamar was getting.

[PFT Commenter]

The problem with. With Derrick Henry's fumbles are. He's going to, he's. He's so deep in the fumble zone now that now he's going to be thinking about not fumbling when he's running the ball. That's going to make him worse as a running back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Yeah. I just. I. There's something about the Ravens where it's like these big games, I just don't. Yeah, I don't trust them.

[PFT Commenter]

It was also their defense. So the Ravens might end up doing what they did last year and just figuring out their defense of the second half.

[Greg Olson]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And then they'll be great. And we'll go into January being like, these Ravens are unstoppable. This is the year for Lamar. I still won't trust them at that point, but they do not give up long drives like they gave up on Monday Night Football.

[Greg Olson]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

They don't. It had been since 2001. That was the last time that the Ravens gave up a drive of 95 yards or more, and it was 24 years, and they did it twice on Monday night.

[Big Cat]

I, I. So when I say I'm done with the Ravens, I'm not actually done with the Ravens. I think they're very good. I do think that the loser of the Chiefs Ravens game might be a potential. Take a future on that team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just out of value. I'm just more like, the Ravens are so frustrating to watch sometimes because, like, they're so good, but they also just make These mistakes. And even like when they did the Derrick Henry pass play in the. In the red zone.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And it almost was picked off. It's like you have Lamar Jackson. Why was awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Why were they running that play?

[Big Cat]

The next play he throws a seed to Mark Andrews.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Lamar played really well last night. You can't put some of those sacks on him. That's. The Lions were making great plays on defense.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So it was the Lions. Like, the Lions, I think are top level. Like, hey, remember week one, how bad they looked? That. That feels like ages ago. Because it does. It doesn't. It feels like it's the same Lions that we've watched the last couple of years.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you catch this on the broadcast that their kicker, Bates, is a former brick salesman.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Used to sell bricks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's mincy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's crazy. Like, what kind of work do you have to do selling a brick?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, hey, do you need a brick? Okay, I'll put that brick in your face.

[Big Cat]

Here's a brick.

[Memes]

Need a Columbia connection.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. By the way, the Derek Henry fumble, the one thing you could say about his fumbles is the timing is not the best. So in his career, by quarter, he's had four first quarter fumbles, three second quarter fumbles, two third quarter fumbles, ten fourth quarter fumbles. Now obviously that's also probably where a lot of his carries come from. The other thing, that was crazy. Did you see. Did you hear Troy Aikman mentioned It just. You forget how the NFL has changed so much that Derrick Henry has played, I think in the NFL for 10 years. I believe nine years. Whatever it is, he's half. He just got halfway to Emmett Smith's carries.

[PFT Commenter]

That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

Emmett Smith played 13 years. Now, I know Derek Henry was committee running back by committee to start his career in the Titans, but it's more. It's not like an anti. Derek Henry said. It's more like, holy shit, they would make those guys work back in the day.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's. That's pretty crazy. But Derek Henry has also. I mean, after those first couple seasons, he's been the epitome of a workhorse back.

[Big Cat]

Yes, of course, of course. But it's. But even a workhorse back in today's NFL is less than what in terms of carries total usage, than what it used to be in the 90s.

[PFT Commenter]

I also like Troy just reminding us about how good his Cowboys were.

[Big Cat]

They were good.

[PFT Commenter]

Actually dropping that in there. Yeah. I think. I think we can say Derrick Henry has fumbis.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This is fumb, this is what Fumbis looks like when he, when he slumped on the bench after he fumbled too. That was a fell, that was a tough look.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he looked like a toddler crashing out.

[PFT Commenter]

He looked, yeah, he looked like he was just, he was embarrassed. He's embarrassed with how he's playing. Lamar, I think I love the Jerry curl on Lamar.

[Big Cat]

I do too.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's a, that's a winning haircut right there. I think the, the Ravens, they'll make the playoffs. They'll probably win a first round playoff game.

[Big Cat]

They got to get the defense. They've allowed the most points so far this season. 97 points through three games.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a lot of points. And the game where they blew the Browns out, they actually didn't look that great.

[Big Cat]

Right. That was just, you know, the statistics of that game. I mean, they, they did blow him out.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a blowout.

[Big Cat]

Doubt, but. Yeah. I don't know. Or is it panic? Is it panic button time for the loser of the Ravens Chiefs game?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Has to be.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Do both those teams make the playoffs gun to your head right now?

[Big Cat]

I think so. Just because the afc, we, we had this discussion, but the AFC does feel like, like it kind of falls off a cliff after, like after the Bills Chargers. It feels like it falls off a cliff. And then you have the, I mean.

[Memes]

Which team, if they go one in three, has a better chance of making the playoffs? Like if the Chiefs go one in three, do they have a better chance of making the playoffs versus the Ravens?

[Big Cat]

I would say the Ravens just because of the division, because obviously Joe Burrow is now out. They get to play the Browns again. They play the Steelers, who, I think they're better than the Steelers, even though the record doesn't show it. I would say probably the Ravens because the Chiefs, I mean, the, the Chargers. I had this thought the other day or this morning. All the talk before this season is like, can the Bills get over the hump? You know, can they, can they finally take out the Ravens or Chiefs? They were, they were the favorite to win the super bowl before the season. What if, what if neither of them are there and it's the, can the Bills beat the Chargers?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I, I, I would say if the Chiefs lose, I think they're still going to make the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Chiefs, I do.

[PFT Commenter]

Because they're, they're getting Xavier Worthy back at some point. Their offense is limited without a receiver. I think they're getting Rasheed Rice back at some point. If he can mine six Games, Right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

But Auto drafted him in fantasy. It kills me every week.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, no, Hank. So here's the.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the worst thing Rashee Rice has.

[Memes]

Ever done for any one of those free rice shirts.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So here's the. Here's the Chief schedule, because it does. It is hard. Like, they're going to have to win some games late in the season because they have the Ravens this Sunday. Then they're at the Jaguars. Not an easy game.

[Memes]

Nope.

[Big Cat]

The Lions at home. Nope. The Raiders at home.

[Memes]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

The Commanders at home.

[Memes]

Nope.

[Big Cat]

At the Bills? At the Broncos. No. That's not easy.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe. Yeah, once. But once they get Rice. Hank.

[Big Cat]

Once.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, what was that?

[Memes]

You don't think you can beat the Chiefs?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't want to say it out loud.

[Memes]

You believe.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't want to say it out loud. I've got. There's some Commanders fans that are very upset with me for not being more of a homer for the Commanders right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's just how I feel. Like I. I. To go into Kansas City on a Monday night and win.

[Memes]

You play scared.

[PFT Commenter]

It's gonna be really hard. I do play scared. I'm scared. I'm a scared little boy.

[Big Cat]

Not playing to win.

[PFT Commenter]

When it comes to my football watching and viewing experience, I am a scared, frightened little boy and a child at heart thinking that all the worst things are going to happen to me. It's going to take years. It's going to take years of. Well, Noah, handcuffs. Pretend to be hurt. You thought I was actually hurt? No.

[Big Cat]

Gotcha. The Ravens are playing the Chiefs. Then they're at home against the Texans, Rams and Bears. So that feels like probably a two in one, right? Texans, Rams, Bears, all at home.

[Memes]

Bears.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, I mean, we're not gonna beat the Ravens. And then at the Dolphins, at the Vikings, at the Browns. So I would say the Ravens, if they go one and three, have a better chance.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Okay. That's fair. I just do think that the Chiefs are going to get better. They're not going to be this. But although there was a. Did you see the clip of Andy Reid and. And Kelsey on the sidelines?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Kelsey, this time it looked like Andy Reid kind of initiated it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, if you were to take what happened in the super bowl and reverse it, Reed, like, got in his face and, like, kind of belly titty bumped him a little bit. I think he hit him with his title.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Video Mahomes throwing an absolute duck. And then, like, the, you know, a clip from two years ago of him throwing an absolute bomb.

[Big Cat]

Mahomes doesn't look. I mean, it's. It's okay to say he gets all benefit of the doubt from what he's done in his career, but in terms of the last year and a half, like, because remember last year, it's not like the Chiefs were killing teams.

[PFT Commenter]

They had.

[Big Cat]

They had some very, very close games.

[Memes]

Molly walked in the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He. He doesn't look. It's not. It's not the same. It looked three, four years ago. That's a fair statement to say.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like ever since Riola started to take all his shit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It was like a monster situation, stealing his powers.

[Big Cat]

And then in terms of news we have Russ, it feels like it's done. Dable said they're evaluating everything. And then the media tried to hold him to. It was like, so, like quarterback. He's like, we're evaluating everything.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what you got to do as a coach. That. That hasn't competed. Really. You got to say every. Every position is up for grabs. We're going to look at all the tape.

[Big Cat]

We're going to bring in the basketball team to try out.

[PFT Commenter]

No job is safe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Including mine.

[Big Cat]

And then the other one, you guys. Commanders are going to play the Falcons. The Falcons are already shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. We've talked about this many times before. But the sign that things are a problem is whenever you move a coordinator from the booth to the field or from the field to the booth, and they've done that after three weeks, Zach Robinson, their OC is going down to the field.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They fired.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

They fired Ike Hilliard, their receiver, their receivers coach, and then they moved Zach Robinson down onto the field, which is. It is a sure sign. They're going to start asking him to. He's on a pip right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach Robinson is clearly on a pip. They're going to start giving him assignments that are just impossible and really have nothing to do with his job. Just to keep him busy so that other people can actually do his job for him. Yeah, it's. It's not looking great. Hey, this is what you get when you get a pro football focus guy. You get a data guy.

[Big Cat]

Get a data guy, and then he's. Yeah. So memes. Credit to you. You had that take on Sunday. Credit to me. Credit to you. Credit to memes. Also, I saw a crazy stat about. I think it was the Vikings. I think the Vikings have played. I think the Vikings defense has been. I got to try to find it but it was. It was some crazy. Like, the Vikings defense has played so much better than anyone else in the NFL. Yeah. Under Brian. Brian Flores. So credit to Brian Flores.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they were.

[Big Cat]

Doesn't get enough credit. He was. He had Jake Browning in a torture chamber.

[PFT Commenter]

They were incredible.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'm going to try to find the stat. I don't have this.

[PFT Commenter]

Also credit Carson Wentz.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Also credit to Carson Wentz. Big time. Big time credit to Carson Wentz.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a.

[Big Cat]

All right. Any other cleanup stuff from the NFL on Sunday? We got any cleanup stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Trying to remember what we need to clean up.

[Big Cat]

Any cleanup stuff. I don't think there's a lot we have to clean up. How are you feeling Memes with. With the jets in terms of Aaron Glenn. That was one of the funniest, most perfect edits done. Is Aaron Glenn dancing to Earth, Wind and Fire? Did you see that?

[PFT Commenter]

I did. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It was so perfectly timed up. It was almost made for that.

[PFT Commenter]

Jenna Lane did that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that one hurts.

[PFT Commenter]

But it was a cool celebration. I love the celebration.

[Big Cat]

It's like split online.

[PFT Commenter]

They're like, you know your team's about to blow it because your defense sucks.

[Big Cat]

But what is he supposed to do?

[PFT Commenter]

It was a fantastic play also for all the screenshot merchants out there. And I'm speaking specifically about Stephen Che, mostly that did the zoom in on whether or not the Bucks center got his footstepped on. On that field goal. Get over it. You guys won. Yeah, you guys won. It was close enough. They protect the centers a lot. Yeah, I don't worry about it.

[Big Cat]

I couldn't agree more. The lamest thing you could possibly do is. Is argue a call in a win.

[PFT Commenter]

Technically, somebody touched our center and you're not allowed to do that. Yeah, it's a. It's a rule that is questionable at best. And because they violated on a technicality in a game that you won anyways. Get over it.

[Big Cat]

Get over it. Oh, they should make goalposts 100ft tall.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

There was that kick last night for the Ravens that looked like it wasn't good. Why not?

[PFT Commenter]

I think that one was actually in. It was, but there was another one earlier this year. Yeah, just make the goalposts a little bit taller. Or Titus always says, put a. Put a crossbar on top. See where they have to kick through.

[Memes]

That kicker had all time sour puss face after he just didn't reach the landing zone. And that was on the sidelines. Like he was looking like he was blaming something, like he was mad. It was all him. But he had the face of, like.

[Big Cat]

Trying to blame someone else.

[Memes]

Yeah, he was just like that. That couldn't have been me.

[Big Cat]

Like something happened.

[Memes]

Like the wind blew up or something. Yeah, that was a great kick.

[PFT Commenter]

There is one more thing that Jerry Jones said yesterday that I think that we should. We should discuss. He said that the Cowboys will not have a video tribute for Micah Parsons on Sunday.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

He said it's not appropriate.

[Memes]

What does that mean?

[PFT Commenter]

Do you agree with Jerry?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

You think that they should. You think the Cowboys should do a tribute video for Micah Parsons?

[Big Cat]

I don't think so. Yeah. I guess with the way it ended.

[PFT Commenter]

We're still waiting for the Isaiah Thomas tribute video to come out.

[Memes]

No, they did one. They did one.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, they got that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But, like, we gotta. We have to establish the criteria for getting it.

[Memes]

Isaiah Thomas definitely deserved one. Micah Parsons, I guess because the way it ended and it's so fresh. I guess not.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, here it is. By the way, I have it. This is from Mike sando in the 23 Flores era wins. The defense. The Vikings defense has been 20 times more productive than the offense. From EPA standpoint, I don't understand what that means, but it seems significant.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, it's kind of an insult stat for the offense.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But it also. How good their defense, but also their offense.

[PFT Commenter]

Like last year, I never once thought that the Vikings offense was ever even a problem.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But it was.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought defense was just that good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, we did have Nick Bosa. He tore his acl. That. That sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that. That really sucks. Because Kyle Shanahan said after the game that they didn't think that it was torn.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then they looked at it. Good news, though. I think this is maybe the best ACL tear of all time. Because I saw every. Everyone that works in NFL media was tweeting out. It was a perfectly clean tear.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Of only the acl.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

The other ligaments were not affected.

[Big Cat]

So he's good.

[PFT Commenter]

So he's got. Yeah. They're calling it the greatest ACL tear of all time.

[Big Cat]

There are. The Niners just continue to be the most hurt team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Every single year. It sucks. They just can't. I don't know what's going on. They just get hurt. All their best players. Maybe it's. Maybe the problem for the Niners is don't have so many good players. Because if you don't have that many good players and someone gets hurt, it's like, well, he wasn't good anyway. They have too many Good players. So the odds are one of their good players is going to get hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good point.

[Big Cat]

Right. Like if I was building a team, I'd be like, let's build the team out of like mid players. That way if there's someone injured, we're not like, damn, our season's over. Our best player, one of our best players got hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

What if you just started all your second stringers to begin the season, it's.

[Big Cat]

A good idea too.

[PFT Commenter]

And then let them get hurt. Then it's. You're in the best, the best possible next man up situation.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right, exactly. But yeah, that, that, that sucked. That Nick Bosa did that. So I think it's his second time. He's torn as ACL Week 2 of 2020 versus the Jets. That stinks. That stinks. Okay. Should we talk some college football?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Before we do that, game time. Can we get. Can we get the whiteout game? Because I think Hank and, and Max are going to.

[Memes]

Yeah, we are.

[Big Cat]

We are.

[Memes]

We are. The whiteout game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So the NFL is back and college football tailgates pack stands that buzz before kickoff. But getting in a nightmare cues price jumps. Getting logged out mid click. All you want is to be there. Beer in hand, losing your voice with the crowd. The Game Time app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use. The game time guarantee makes means you can Trust you'll get 100% authentic tickets on time and at the best price. Plus fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. We're looking at the white out. Penn State, Happy Valley Saturday night.

[Memes]

We are going to be there and you can too for the low price of $399.

[Big Cat]

Ooh. Okay, get into.

[Memes]

What's this place called, Matt? The Knit.

[PFT Commenter]

Max.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, the Knit up everything there.

[PFT Commenter]

You called me Matt.

[Big Cat]

Matt and the knit.

[Memes]

What's the, what's the stadium called?

[Big Cat]

Beaver Stadium. Yeah, that would be correct.

[PFT Commenter]

The nitrous.

[Memes]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

So take the guess. We're going to buying NFL tickets with game time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, use code PMT for 20 off. Your first purchase terms apply. Again, create an account, redeem code PMT for 20 off. Swipe, tap Ticket. Go download the Game Time app today. Hank, is this your big, your first big like huge college. Oh, no. You've been to a bunch of college football games.

[PFT Commenter]

It's his first time.

[Big Cat]

I forgot he went to the sec. The.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He did a whole tour.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But it is the first time in the Beaver.

[Memes]

It is the first time.

[Big Cat]

The Beaver.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Getting that Beaver.

[Big Cat]

The nitty beef.

[Memes]

First big Big Ten game. I guess we went to Wisconsin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Ohio State. I don't know. I'm excited for the whiteout.

[Greg Olson]

This is going to be rocking.

[Big Cat]

It's going to be rocking place.

[Memes]

It's going to be literally on fire.

[Big Cat]

I got.

[PFT Commenter]

I got a question for you guys. Are we counting this as a big game for James Franklin? Yes.

[Greg Olson]

100%.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. This is under the big game. Hundred capital letter.

[Big Cat]

Big games.

[Memes]

Is it stealing I have to wear white, right?

[Big Cat]

Yes. You got to get a nice. Like, real nice. We'll go.

[Greg Olson]

We'll go shopping. We'll go shopping Friday when we get there.

[Memes]

Yeah, well, I'm just gonna wear. I don't know that I'm aware.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess I'll count.

[Memes]

I guess I'll rock.

[Big Cat]

I'll.

[Memes]

Yeah, I'll bet on pen.

[PFT Commenter]

Technically, I would agree it's a big game for James Franklin because if they lose, then Oregon will be a top five team.

[Greg Olson]

No, they are a top.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought there were six.

[Big Cat]

I mean, they're.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought there were four.

[Big Cat]

They already are. I mean, if they're ranked six, they're a top five team already there. This is. This is. This is absolutely a big game for. For James Franklin.

[Greg Olson]

Oregon is beating the shit out of teams.

[Big Cat]

Everyone. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like it's. It's a big count.

[Big Cat]

It's an absolutely big game.

[PFT Commenter]

It's two teams where we don't really know how good they both look like they're really, really good, but we don't know shit about.

[Big Cat]

They're five in the coaches.

[PFT Commenter]

Five in the coaches, six in the ap. Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

So depends.

[Big Cat]

But they're a top five team in my. In my estimation.

[Memes]

Well, you're gonna say, hey, hasn't Penn State played no.

[Big Cat]

1? Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, correct.

[Big Cat]

Oregon's also played no. Oregon's played no. 1 as well because Oregon.

[Greg Olson]

But they've played better teams than we've.

[PFT Commenter]

Then they've both beaten the shit out of no. 1's.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yes. Okay. Winners of the weekend, Indiana and Texas Tech. Put everyone on notice. Those two teams, Indiana, what they did to Illinois was not, I wouldn't say shocking. It was just more, Holy shit. Indiana might be better than they were last year. And Kurt Signetti, he's a. He's a maniac. He finds, you know, slights anywhere he can. I think he was. He's still upset about last year in the Conversation around Indiana and he's like, I'm going to punish everyone.

[PFT Commenter]

That's exactly. Yeah. There's going to be one team that's focused on style points and that's going to be Indiana. Yeah, they won 63 to 10. Was not happy at halftime either. No, they did the interview. They're like, what do you need to do? He's like, we have to score more points. We didn't do a good enough job of scoring points, but it was like a very even game in terms of how many points were. It was like the entire. All four quarters were just chock full of Indiana beating the dog out of Illinois. And yeah, sign. He is a, he's a crazy person.

[Big Cat]

Crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

They talk about him coming from like the, the Nick Saban coaching tree and he has a lot of the exact same mannerisms and, and, and viewpoints and attitudes that Nick Saban has where he will yell at somebody if they're, if they're up 50 to 10 in the fourth quarter and you drop an interception, he will like grab you and yell at you and cuss you out. He's a complete psycho. He's a great college football coach. I'm wondering if he's going to get gobbled up by like a premier premier name.

[Big Cat]

Fans will be mad at you for that.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, guess what? I had, I had to deal with the conversation for two years. Yeah. And that's what happens. Like that's the reality of college football. That if there's going to be like a top level job that ever opens up soon and there might be some like at the very peak. Signetti is going to be one of the first three guys that you call.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Although he does he, I mean, he's got it rolling right now at Indiana. They look really, really good. Mendoza is awesome. He's I think the front runner for Heisman. Now they have Iowa this weekend and then Oregon in a couple weeks. The other. So Texas Tech was the other big winner for the weekend for me. They went into Utah and just demolished Utah, which doesn't happen very often. This is also Texas Tech. They are very open and brazen about the fact that they bought their roster with oil money. Yeah. I actually like the fact that they're like the, the three guys that I think bought the roster are just always like, they're at the press conferences. They're just walking around just like, yeah, we did this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like so sick.

[PFT Commenter]

Oil was the original crypto.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like if you can, if you can camp out on a spot and you can you can make a shitload of money in just a few. You're probably a die hard college football fan if you grow up in Texas.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So what are you going to do? You're going to reinvest that? If they had. If the Stanford nerds that were making money off crypto cared deeply about football, then Stanford be an elite team too. Texas Tech was very, very fun. And when you looked at this game on paper, just like the reputations of the teams, it's like Utah. They're the team that will just be more physical. It will hurt you, they will punish you. And then the reputation of Texas Tech is there are a candy ass team. They're going to score air raid.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

44 points and they're going to give up 52 points.

[Big Cat]

No, they're.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's not it.

[Big Cat]

Texas Tech's defensive line is nasty.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not it at all.

[Big Cat]

Seven is nasty. And then the Michigan Nebraska game, I actually came away from that being like 1. Bryce Underwood's really fucking good. 2. Dylan Rayola is really good. Nebraska's defense is what really good would stop them. Like he, he played a good game. I don't understand how we have such a disconnect with everyone in the Dylan Rayola, Patrick Mahomes thing. Like Matt Rule talked about it. Nebraska fans are talking about it. Like why you guys keep bringing it up? We don't keep bringing it up. He keeps doing it. He's an awesome quarterback. Just let him be an awesome quarterback. Someone needs to get in his ear and be like, dude, just stop.

[PFT Commenter]

The funniest part to me was when he, he like throws an interception and he's, he's method acting so hard that he does.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Patrick Mahomes. I just threw an intercept two hands to the head. It's crazy that I don't get it. Yeah. And then he's like, I'm just trying to be me and sometimes people don't like me when I'm being me. Dude. Yes. It's weird. Yeah, it's very weird.

[Big Cat]

You're a really good quarterback. So just be a really good quarterback. That's the part that just is so confusing to me. And like Matt Rules saying, oh, like why are we keep talking about it? We, we keep talking about it because he keeps doing it. I. It's as cut and dry as possible. Is it not like I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when people are like why do you keep bringing up, why you keep clowning on them? I don't know, dude. It's it's weird at this point.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it is.

[Big Cat]

And when people will come back and say, oh, well. Did you idle. What? You don't think it's that weird? Why?

[Memes]

Because it's like, that's every. Every single person when they're growing up, wants to.

[Big Cat]

Like, he's not growing up anymore. He's playing in the Big ten.

[Memes]

College. He's college.

[Big Cat]

What do you.

[Memes]

What do you say about. What do you say when people make missed free throws in college basketball?

[Big Cat]

They're just kids.

[Memes]

Okay. Boom.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do you know that I'm doing that as a joke because I want.

[Memes]

Nope.

[Big Cat]

I want to.

[Memes]

They're just kids.

[Big Cat]

They're so kids on them, and I use that.

[Memes]

They're amateurs.

[Greg Olson]

Hank was proud of himself for that.

[Big Cat]

He was wrong because he doesn't understand I'm doing it as a joke.

[Memes]

Just kids.

[Big Cat]

They're just kids.

[Memes]

Never grow up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So you have no problem with it? No, I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Hank, if they're just kids and this is a natural, normal thing for kids to do, how come every other college quarterback hasn't started doing this with other NFL quarterbacks?

[Memes]

I'm sure every other quarterback looks at. They study the film. They don't, you know, maybe mimic everything.

[Big Cat]

But he does, like, do they choose.

[PFT Commenter]

A school because it's got the same colors and then wear the same numbers?

[Greg Olson]

Matt Rule.

[Memes]

Every quarterback is like, why do you wear this number? Because my favorite player growing up, I.

[Big Cat]

Don'T think you've watched him play.

[Memes]

That's a very normal thing.

[Big Cat]

He does some. He'll do sidearm passes that are like, you shouldn't. Sidearm pass.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Patrick Mahomes is the. The best quarterback in the NFL.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank. He does. He does the hand thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Matt Rule started pressing on, saying, let's not do the whole Mahomes thing. Let's talk about the football. I agree. Let's talk about the football. Tell him to stop acting like Patrick Mahomes. He's a good football player.

[PFT Commenter]

He needs to go to, like, a. Some sort of.

[Memes]

Is he a good football player because he acts like Patrick Mahomes?

[Big Cat]

No, he's a good football player because he can. He's good at throwing the football.

[PFT Commenter]

He needs to go get brainwashed. He needs to spend some time and just, like, sit down in a room with somebody, like a psychiatrist that just gives him some ketamine is like, hey, you are not Patrick Mahomes.

[Big Cat]

I just feel like, Hank, watch this.

[PFT Commenter]

Watch this video.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I feel like it's such an easy solution. If you Just stop doing the. It's not even like he can love Patrick Mahomes. He can idolize Patrick Mahomes. It's like the warmups and the fingers and the. How could you say Hank every. This is.

[PFT Commenter]

His tight end just got engaged.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's a stretch.

[PFT Commenter]

You think this is a stretch. You think there's a selective clip editing?

[Big Cat]

All right. Hank's getting. He's shredded. He's.

[Memes]

That's like walking out of the tunnel, doing a fan.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's go.

[Memes]

And like, jumping up is not like everyone does that.

[PFT Commenter]

Pull up the tunnel, walk him walking into games. Max is a picture right there.

[Big Cat]

He's doing the. Look at that. I wouldn't know the difference.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, look at the picture on the left.

[Big Cat]

Hank, come on. Hank, come on. And again, it's so easy for it to stop. Just get a haircut and stop doing it. Yeah. And just be a good quarterback, because you are. But, yeah, Bryce Underwood is the real deal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's good. He's going to be just fine.

[Memes]

I'm pretty sure those Oakley glasses are like, legitimately Oakley. Like Mahomes brand.

[PFT Commenter]

Of course they are.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then I had the other.

[Memes]

Holmes is even wearing those in his.

[Big Cat]

The other thing I wanted to talk about was. What are you going to say, Max?

[PFT Commenter]

Never mind. Never mind.

[Big Cat]

The. There's three programs that are in some deep, deep shit. One of them is my team. So I wanted to bring them all three up. We can discuss. I'll start with Wisconsin. We're in a lot of trouble. A lot of trouble. Like, dark, dark times. It's so dark that I basically am being, like, saying things to myself. Hey, what's so bad about just remembering the good old days?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, that's a bad place to be. Because I went back and I looked last night, I was like. So we had 17 straight years from the. From the year I was a freshman to 2019, where we won 9.7 games per year. We had 10 of the 17 years. We won over 10 games. We had a 12 and one season, a 13 one season. That's pathetic when I'm doing that, but it is. I don't know the way out. And I think that Wisconsin's at a really weird crossroads where it's like, I know everyone wants to fire fickle, but I think it's deeper than that. And you have to like, the. Whoever's in charge. I don't even fucking know. Chancellors, presidents. Commit to being a football school.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Stop fucking around. I also need that guy. The guy who Created Teemu. Colin Huang, if you're listening, from China, hit me up, bro. He's $50 billion. He went to. He got his master's from Wisconsin.

[PFT Commenter]

Does he care about football?

[Big Cat]

I don't know, but I'm going to try to get him to.

[PFT Commenter]

He should.

[Big Cat]

Because people keep blaming me for not spending money I don't have. I don't have the money that you need to. I don't have oil money. I don't have Larry Ellison money. I'm not even. Like, there's so worlds away.

[PFT Commenter]

Got that Harambe money.

[Big Cat]

Colin Huang. Yeah, I got the Harambe money.

[PFT Commenter]

So what Wisconsin did is they just. They kind of tried to become Texas Tech. They did the Dare Rate offense, right?

[Big Cat]

Well, no, because we didn't spend millions and millions of dollars on a roster.

[PFT Commenter]

Right, but what I'm saying is, like, Wisconsin tried to stop being Wisconsin a little bit.

[Big Cat]

It's more the roster. Just like we don't have the talent and our quarterbacks keep getting hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just.

[Big Cat]

We're at a crossroads. It's. It's dark. And I know it's going to be dark for a while. I don't know if they're going to win another game this year. We need to figure it out. Got to have it come to. Jesus. I don't know who to talk to. Someone give me someone to talk to. Give me a chancellor to talk to. I'm sure that that will go well if I just tell him, hey, you know what? We got to fucking spend more money and figure this out. We're not going to win another game. Probably. It's bad. It's bad. Fuck you, Hank. I saw a face. It's bad. We have the hardest schedule in the country. You can't.

[Memes]

Yeah, Maryland.

[Big Cat]

I know that. What did I just say? We're the darkest of darks. We're in a crossroads. We're at a word. It's. We're. We're in a really bad situation.

[PFT Commenter]

If Fickle was. If he was out of a job, there would be lots of teams that would want to hire him, right? Do you think Luke Fickle is not a good head coach or just not a good fit?

[Big Cat]

No, I think he's. I don't. I don't know what it is. I don't think he forgot how to coach. I. Yeah, the hire was a great hire. At the time, everyone thought it was a home run hire, like every expert, everyone. It just hasn't gone well. So I don't know what the fix is, but it has to Be fixed. Or we just don't play football anymore.

[PFT Commenter]

Or you go back to being Wisconsin and you run the football.

[Big Cat]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

You just play the most boring brand of Wisconsin football by me, and you win nine games a year.

[Big Cat]

Also, I would like to see an.

[Memes]

Alpha male coach who should be coaching but isn't coaching to fire the team up.

[Big Cat]

John Gurden. Okay. I also saw Barry Alvarez. He did. And I love Barry Alvarez. But he tried to do the. Your spoiled thing that Dabo did. Yeah. No, it doesn't work. It's been five years that Wisconsin's not been good at football. There's. There's. There's kids who are seniors who have not seen a good football product on the field. There's no spoiled. And why don't you fucking figure out how to get the. Instead of having all the students go in single file to the student section so it doesn't get full till the second quarter, figure that the fuck out and let them in. And also put the student section in a better spot for the basketball. Start being serious about sports. It's a joke. It's not spoiled. The program has fallen off. It is completely bottomed out. So to be like, oh, you guys are spoiled, that's just wrong. We're not. I think Wisconsin fans are some of the most patient fans. But five years, a long time to be just a shit product in football.

[PFT Commenter]

You're friends with Urban Meyer now, right?

[Big Cat]

I am. Ish. Although I don't know if he knows the difference between me and Brandon. Called Brandon Dan the whole time at dinner.

[PFT Commenter]

Would Urban Meyer be amenable to the Wisconsin job?

[Big Cat]

I don't think so. I think he's liking his job at Fox. Dabo, no. So let's talk about Dabo.

[PFT Commenter]

I would not hire Dabo.

[Big Cat]

He's in a crisis.

[PFT Commenter]

Dabo is. I think he's reached the point now where he is. He's outwardly hostile towards Clemson fans.

[Big Cat]

Well, him saying, maybe we just suck, yeah, that's a pretty good sign that things are not going.

[PFT Commenter]

And the crazy thing is, people now point back to week one and they say that LSU went over Clemson. Not that impressive because now we know that Clemson just sucks ass. I think that was the one week where Clemson still had, like, a little bit of that juice because they've got all the good. They've got good players, they've got good recruits. He's got on paper, which should be a good team. Week one, they're going out there thinking, yeah, we're confident we have a chance. We're in this, then they lose, then everything falls apart. Now it's like Clemson. They're not getting those guys. Those guys aren't going to be as motivated for the rest of the year as buying back in, in week one. Now they're just a bad team and they're, They're a poorly coached team and Dabo doesn't know how to handle it. And he is, he is just in his feelings.

[Big Cat]

He was crying a little.

[PFT Commenter]

Dabo was crying a little bit. They did their little lap around the stadium beforehand like a dog before it takes a. It was, it was a bad. It was a bad scene.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was a bad scene. It feels like it's over for Dabo just because of, like the way he. I don't know. I mean, I don't think they should fire him. I also think Dabo probably is overestimating the level of job he would get. And I think you'd obviously get a good job, but I don't know, if you get a premier job, if you're.

[PFT Commenter]

Florida, would you hire Dabo Sweeney? I don't think I would.

[Big Cat]

I don't think so. With the way, like he. This is the.

[PFT Commenter]

If I was in constant, I would not hire.

[Big Cat]

No, because it's. And it goes to the last team, Oklahoma State, it's over for Mike Gundy as well. They lost to Tulsa for the first time since, like 1950. It's a common theme of, of coaches or programs not getting with the times and not adjusting to the new era of college football and being left in the past. And so it's bad.

[PFT Commenter]

And listen, the times, you could make the argument the times suck. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to build a college football program. To be a college football coach is probably the most annoying thing ever because you have to worry all the time about which guys that you don't have starting are going to leave in the portal. Which guys do you need to get to come to your school to replace guys that will leave? It sucks, but you have to, you have to badger all the alumni and be like, hey, I need some more money because we need this offensive lineman for nil. It's. It's a shitty time to be a college football coach. But guess what? There's a lot of college football coaches that don't mind doing that stuff.

[Big Cat]

And they get paid a lot of.

[PFT Commenter]

Money and they figured out and they paid a shitload of money.

[Big Cat]

And also, I'm not going to be that guy who, like, when my team goes, starts being bad, be like, well, it's because college football changed and it used to be better. No, no. Figure it out. Get with the times. Fucking fix it. I don't know. Everyone else is figuring out how to fix it. Breaking moves. Mike Gundy fired. Whoa. Oh, wow. So throw this in. Right after we talked about Mike Gundy, he was fired.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. He probably had a not very productive meeting with the athletic director, I would say, I would guess on Sunday or Monday piece of his mind.

[Big Cat]

So day after his I'm A man, I'm 40 anniversary. Mike Gundy fired.

[PFT Commenter]

Does Mike Gundy get a new job?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Maybe had an all time run.

[PFT Commenter]

Mike Gundy's gonna be on the news. I feel like he's gonna do news hits.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that could be. That could definitely be, like just get.

[PFT Commenter]

He's gonna get some takes off.

[Big Cat]

I'm sad to see him go because he is kind of a fun guy to have around. But yeah, it felt like this was.

[PFT Commenter]

It was time it was due to.

[Big Cat]

Happen with the way that season's been going in the last couple of years. So. Yeah, Mike Gundy fired 170 and 90 overall record. And he had that one year. Was it two years ago where they almost went to the playoff.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It kind of saved him for a second.

[PFT Commenter]

He had some really fun teams through the years too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. All right. We lose a legend in the college football game.

[PFT Commenter]

So this is how bad things are for Clemson and also for unc, for Belichick. By the way, Hank, did you see that video of Belichick and Jordan making out on the sidelines?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's fake.

[PFT Commenter]

Jumped into his arms. That was crazy. But here's how bad things have gotten for him. It's going to be Dabo Swinney against Bill Belichick, coaching against each other. Before the season started, we were all like, oh, I can't wait to watch that. It's going to be awesome. They moved it to noon. It's the noon game. And Ludicrous committed to doing a pregame concert.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

@ UNC. So ludicrous now has to go on at 9:45 in the morning in Chapel Hill to perform.

[Big Cat]

O.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not. That's not Ludicrous. Hours.

[Big Cat]

O.

[PFT Commenter]

Bad times.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's going to be a tough one. I feel like Dabo is going to try to take out a lot of pain on Bill Belichick because Clemson is still significantly better than unc.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that might be a hurting, but.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I feel like. I feel like dad was. He's checked out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And Then this weekend's going to be incredible. This weekend is going to be incredible. We have usc, Illinois at noon. We have Ohio State, Washington, which is a sneaky great game. That's gonna be a tough game for Ohio State. Jed Fish, lsu, Ole Miss. We have Oregon, Penn State, Alabama, Georgia. This is the weekend. Yeah, the weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, shout out your plan. Shout out to Oklahoma. They keep winning, but they still haven't forced the turnover.

[Big Cat]

And also, they did cheat.

[PFT Commenter]

They did cheat.

[Big Cat]

They did cheat.

[PFT Commenter]

They did cheat. The sec. They said, hey, hands up, we missed that one. Sorry, guys. They ran the trick play where they sent a guy to the sidelines like the old Johnny Menzel, Kyle Shanahan, and then sent him to the end zone after they snap the ball. I don't know why that's a. An illegal play. I guess it's hard to officiate. Yeah, the refs have a tough time keeping track of substitutions. I don't know. It was illegal. They screwed that one up.

[Big Cat]

Do you. Are you happy the SEC formally apologized? If you're an Auburn fan, are you more pissed off?

[PFT Commenter]

More pissed.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I was saying, like, it before the.

[Memes]

NBA last two minutes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If there's, like, an Auburn fan that printed that out and, like, put it on their refrigerator. Yeah. See, the only thing apologized to me.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The only thing it does for you is you get to. You get to make fun of Oklahoma fans when they bring up that they beat you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, yeah, but you guys cheated. The SEC admitted to it. Oh, also, we should credit Miami.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Miami is awesome. Yeah, Miami is awesome. That's another big story from this weekend. That was an ugly game against Florida.

[Big Cat]

That's all Florida does.

[PFT Commenter]

But Miami was their offense and defensive lines are really, really good. You had Michael Irvin on the sidelines. He's now dedicating all of his emotional energy into the Miami Hurricanes because smart. The Cowboys stink.

[Big Cat]

Smart.

[PFT Commenter]

And Mario Crystal Ball is an absolute psychopath.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

In the same way as Dan Campbell. Maybe not as smart as Dan, but, like, he's a psychopath. Miami is a legitimately good team, and we've seen them play, like, beat teams of their offense. And Carson Beck. And this time it was just like, we're going to play an ugly game. We got dragged down to Florida's level and they tried to beat us with experience, but we can win that type of game, too. We can win an ugly game that nobody wants to watch in bad conditions.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was so.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like Miami. Miami is a team, and if you look at their schedule.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Miami is going to be in the national championship consideration. And I like what, what they said about what Crystal Ball said about the you being back. He was like, I don't. That's back is a backwards looking statement. I'm trying to build something. I'm not entertaining being back. We're here for the first time now.

[Big Cat]

Their back would be really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Their back is really, really good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the. Yeah, no, that was a game. It was a 137 game in the fourth quarter and Miami just like, that's a sign of maybe Miami, old Miami teams might have wilted or there might have been, you know, a play that, that screws them up or defensive. No, they just, they just went in pound town and just like took, took Florida on a ride for some bully ball drives.

[PFT Commenter]

It was pound won that game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they took him to pound town. But that was kind of a moment where it's like, is this Miami team for real? It's 13 7. They're better than Florida. But this game has got, is got the weird vibes of a rivalry game. And then they took him to pound town.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm excited about Miami. Florida State. Yeah, that's going to be a great game.

[Big Cat]

Great game. Okay, let's do our hot Seat Cool Throne and then we'll get to our interviews with Greg Olson and Goose before we get to Hot seat Cool Throne. Chevy football season is here. And whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready. Chevy Silverado. The Chevy Silverado is a longtime partner or pardon my take, and our favorite truck. And it's all about grit. From job site to tailgate, Silverado lets you show up strong and tackle any task. Built for the hustle. Ready for the game. Silverado is America's most dependable full size truck. For J.D. power 2025 award information, visit jdpower.comawards Head to chevy.com to learn more and build your own Chevy Silverado. Hot Seat Cool throne is brought to you by our friends at Reese's. With its perfect combination of chocolate and peanut butter, there's really nothing like a Reese's peanut butter cup. You can find Reese's peanut butter cups basically anywhere. I had a six sleeve in my house last night for the kids myself. Best, best treat out there. Reese's is just always hits chocolate peanut butter. Dynamic duo. You know, we're also dynamic duo. Hank and Max going to Knit Valley on Saturday night. Yup. With a whiteout. That's a dynamic duo. We're going to Want to see? So dynamic. So dynamic. So shop Reese's peanut butter cups now at a store near you find wherever candy is sold. We love Reese's. Thank you to Reese's, our wonderful sponsor. Dynamic duos out there. Chocolate peanut butter. Hank, Max. They're all out there. All right. Hot seat. Cool throne.

[Memes]

My hot seat is Brandle Chambly.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, what do you do?

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Big geek.

[Memes]

Big golf geek hater.

[PFT Commenter]

He might be the number one geek in golf.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. He is a big time.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's a stacked field.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, really stacked.

[PFT Commenter]

He was talking about.

[Big Cat]

And he's old.

[Memes]

Like, he's an old fart.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on.

[Memes]

He is. Well, he was. He was talking about Bryson and he said he's a captain's nightmare to. To pick a partner because he's selfish.

[PFT Commenter]

He's an iceberg.

[Memes]

And he was talking about how, like, you know, he did a press conference. Instead of talking about the team and how much he likes playing for the team, he brought up his YouTube. So it's like he was, you know, saying he's. He was self, self sucking himself, promoting and promoting his YouTube. And then this is where I. I really. I put him on the hot seat because there's just no way Brandle Shambley.

[PFT Commenter]

Is.

[Memes]

Is this locked in or. I don't think this is true, first of all. But he said, I have no doubt that bots are generating a lot of those views.

[Big Cat]

He called them out for bots on his YouTube.

[PFT Commenter]

Bot farming. And Randall Chambly.

[Memes]

Randall Chambley is. Is somehow in the know enough to know about, you know yout views. And. And that bots are the reason that Bryson's. Which it is objectively like, I. I love YouTube Golf. It's like Bryson's content is probably the most unique and it's very interesting and entertaining. Like, of course people are watching it.

[PFT Commenter]

What about all the kids that come up to him and say, I love your content. Thank you for doing the YouTube content. Price.

[Big Cat]

Those. Are those bots?

[Memes]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Hank, I got a question. So we're gonna do a Ryder cup preview with Shane Bacon on Friday show because Friday is when the Ryder cup starts. And we'll talk about the Ryder cup, set the scene, everything. I got a question for you. I saw a tweet from glute activator that I happened to agree with. The hype videos are way too early. They're dropping. They're dry. They're dropping hype videos on a Monday. I need a video on Thursday night.

[Memes]

No, I kind of agree with Ryder cup week.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree with glute activator. Yeah, but I. I might even go one step further. Golf is not a hype video sport.

[Big Cat]

It's a hard hype video.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not a hype video sport. And golf, you don't want to be hyped.

[Big Cat]

But it's too early to get rid of. Yeah, but, Hank, it's too early to get hype. It's not that. The hype videos.

[Memes]

Did you watch the video, the Firefighter?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, and guess what? I'm gonna forget about it by Friday. Were you not fired up on Monday?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I want to get hyped up after we beat Europe.

[Big Cat]

I want to get hyped up right before. I want to get hyped up right before. By the way, what's your Ryder cup plan being at Nip Valley on Saturday? You're our number one golf expert.

[Memes]

Yeah, I'm going to watch on Saturday. I'm probably going to find a bar and watch college football in the Ryder Cup Sunday morning. Sunday, I'll be. I'll be here.

[Big Cat]

You're going to be back in time.

[Memes]

I land at 8, and I'm just going to come straight to the office.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

Ireland and Ryder Cup.

[Big Cat]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, you're going to knit Valley.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

To the Big Beef.

[Memes]

Big Beef.

[PFT Commenter]

You're a Duck, though, right?

[Big Cat]

Oh, you are a Duck.

[PFT Commenter]

You are a Duck. You've got ties with Oregon. Close ties. Some of you. Some of your closest people that you work with pretty much. Pretty much work at Oregon.

[Big Cat]

Are you gonna root for State Pen or.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, and this seems like it's the matchup where it's like, I know your allegiances to this guy.

[Memes]

We are going to the game.

[PFT Commenter]

If you turn against. If you. If you root for Penn State, you're gonna lose.

[Big Cat]

No, no. State Pen.

[PFT Commenter]

If you root for State Pen, you're going to lose a friend.

[Memes]

I disagree. I mean, I think.

[Big Cat]

I think me, if I were going.

[PFT Commenter]

To this game, I'd root for Oregon.

[Big Cat]

Duck. I'd come in as a duck.

[PFT Commenter]

I go quack, quack, quack.

[Big Cat]

That's me.

[Memes]

Because we are, we are.

[Big Cat]

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. We are, we are.

[Greg Olson]

We are.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Good question.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you going to bet?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

On Penn State?

[Big Cat]

Wow. Yeah. See, you even say it the right way now.

[Memes]

Or maybe the over. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

But, yeah, we are. White out. You're going to the game. It's like you got to root for the home team.

[Big Cat]

Just root for the over. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Memes]

And then Scotty. Scotty did a press conference talking about Bryce. He said he's a tremendous competitor. He's a great partner as well. He's a great guy. He's a good friend. He's been great in our team room and brings a lot of energy and people love him. Being an American means a lot to him, and I'm excited to kind of unleash him this week.

[Big Cat]

Are you worried at all about the players being paid? Has it ruined the love of the game?

[Memes]

No.

[Big Cat]

Okay, same. Yeah, agreed.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm okay with that.

[Greg Olson]

I said.

[Big Cat]

I've just seen people complain about that. I'm like, I. I thought they did get paid. I don't fucking care. They should get.

[Memes]

I mean, everyone else is getting, like.

[Big Cat]

Also, they're probably getting pa. Like, the.

[Memes]

Networks are getting paid. The u. Like, all everyone else involved in the Rider cup is getting paid.

[PFT Commenter]

What a match about that. Two years ago, right? And it's kind of horseshit that they didn't pay the guys.

[Big Cat]

What. What are they getting paid?

[Memes]

I don't know. But, I mean, Bryson's already said he's donating it. Scotty said he's like. It's like everyone's going to just take the money and give it to a better cause.

[Big Cat]

If I ever.

[Memes]

They're part of something that's generating a load of money, they should get paid. And I'm. I'm sure 99% of the guys are.

[Greg Olson]

All right.

[Big Cat]

We're finding out. $500,000 each. I'll say it right now. If I ever. If they ever call me, my country, to. To compete in the Rider Cup, I will abso. Absolutely donate every single cent of the pay to charity.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow. I'll pay them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How about that? So Scotty is donating it, right?

[Memes]

Scotty and Bryson. I've seen.

[PFT Commenter]

Bryson's probably just reinvesting it into, like, a server building. No.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wait, hold on.

[PFT Commenter]

House all his bots.

[Big Cat]

Hold on. It's $500,000 each. 300,000 going to the chosen charity. So they're kind of getting. They don't really get credit for this charity. Oh, they're being forced.

[PFT Commenter]

Me.

[Big Cat]

I would. I would then give the 200,000 as a personal stipend that would go to charity and probably a match. I'd probably do 400,000 to charity. 300,000 also to charity.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'd double it.

[Big Cat]

So set. So maybe put that on a quote card. If I were in the Ryder Cup, I would give $700,000 to charity.

[Memes]

That's big of you.

[Big Cat]

Thank you. Appreciate it.

[Memes]

You'll be good two years. You'll be good at golf by then.

[Big Cat]

Yep, I am. Oh, you're going to hate it. You're going to hate it when I just one day show up and beat you.

[PFT Commenter]

Breaking news.

[Big Cat]

Breaking news. Breaking news.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, we got him.

[Big Cat]

Jackson D. The dart attack is starting on Sunday versus the Chargers. This is to be expected. To be expected. Okay, Russell Wilson. That. That goal line sequence, that was.

[PFT Commenter]

Was tough. The throwaway on fourth down. Yeah, because we were recording when we did it. So when we do that, I have to go back and I have to watch the games again and just get a. A general appreciation for how ridiculous that goal line sequence was. It was worse than I thought.

[Memes]

I would love to know how many times someone's gotten intentional grounding from the two yard line.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Memes]

That was like unfathomable.

[Big Cat]

Beyond bad.

[PFT Commenter]

He came close to getting intentional grounding on fourth down from the two yard line again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Memes]

And then my cool throne is. Is SEC football this league?

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Memes]

Landry Kiffin.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Lane Kiffin's daughter is apparently in a relationship with Whit Weeks, who's LSU's best linebacker. And they posted a picture that was just hard launching. Just said hard launch. And they're playing this week. Lsu. Ole Miss.

[Big Cat]

Am I. Am I wrong in saying this is good for Ole Miss?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, I saw it and I immediately was like, first of all, it's a hard launch. I don't know.

[Memes]

I feel like you can spin it whichever way you want.

[PFT Commenter]

I disagree. I. I think you are wrong.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Hear me out. So it was a hard launch.

[Memes]

I think big cats are wrong.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Okay. It was a hard launch for the couple on the Internet. Lane Kiffin has known that they've been dating for a while now. 100. It's his daughter.

[Memes]

Right.

[Big Cat]

You don't think that he's had a little. Little. Maybe a few too many soda pops with weeks and just been like, hey, let's get on the whiteboard?

[Greg Olson]

Real.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't take Lane drinks anymore.

[Big Cat]

Okay, well, whatever. They've just been hanging out. Hey, let's get on the whiteboard. Show me. Show me what you guys like to run.

[PFT Commenter]

You think they're boys.

[Big Cat]

I think they're boys.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I disagree. I think that this is huge. For.

[Memes]

Who do you think it's a bigger distraction for?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, so I saw he was.

[Big Cat]

Lane Kiffin was making jokes about it right away. He knew this. He knew they were dating. Yeah. I don't think he cares what I.

[PFT Commenter]

Saw last night from Lane Kiffin, a man who. Who logged on and was posting through it and told somebody, take the over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

In the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is kind of weird for a coach to be doing that.

[Big Cat]

Well, it's because he knows their defense. Cause he's had conversations with Weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're looking at the mental edge, I feel like lsu, they can just be like, hey, she calls him Daddy, too.

[Big Cat]

No, I. I think this is. I think Lane Kiffin's got some. Got some keys to the game now.

[Memes]

I feel like you can. I feel like it's. It's a. It's a good spin zone. You can. If you work hard enough, you can spin it whichever way you want.

[Big Cat]

I mean, Lane, Kevin joking about it almost immediately means that he's known about this relationship for a while.

[PFT Commenter]

It is.

[Big Cat]

I think everyone thinks, like, oh, shit. Lane Kiffin just got a bomb dropped on him. He's definitely known. They've been dating for a while.

[PFT Commenter]

It is a Romeo and Juliet situation.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's great. This league classic.

[Memes]

Sec.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, what's crazy. So LSU is the underdog this weekend.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like that's. That's better for the underdog. Whichever side was the underdog, I would say benefits from this news.

[Big Cat]

Okay, take the over. It was weeks of one thing. Weeks of one thing. The over. Yeah. He said, take the over, kid. Household must be in shambles. See, that's the thing is, I don't. If. If he didn't know about it, I would understand being like, holy. What about. He definitely knew about it, but he.

[PFT Commenter]

Could have been like.

[Big Cat]

Because he played. He had fun with it right away. He posted a picture of her.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he probably.

[Big Cat]

Like, she's still rooting for Ole Miss.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he probably did know about it, but she also took maybe the worst time possible to announce it. Like. Like, she did this strategically or was. It's not a coincidence that she said, okay, it's LSU week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to announce it. That in any world, is a bigger distraction for dad.

[Big Cat]

You. Maybe Lane Kiffin said, hey, let's wait to announce it on LSU week.

[PFT Commenter]

But how would that benefit him? That just gets him talking about it, making jokes.

[Big Cat]

Stop thinking about game plans. He's already thinking about game plans. He's already talked to Weeks about what they're going to run on defense.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I think if your daughter does this during this week, it feels like it's. It's to jab you. I agree.

[Big Cat]

I don't think so. I think he's Having so much fun with it right away that. That reeks of coordinated attack.

[PFT Commenter]

It reeks of. I'm. Actually.

[Memes]

No, I don't have a choice. Like, I wish you didn't do it.

[PFT Commenter]

But I'm actually laughing. I'm not. I'm not mad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Please don't print that. I got mad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, yeah. Yeah. See it the other way. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Embrace debate. We'll find out. Hey, that's what makes college football so fun. Is great. We get to find out.

[Big Cat]

It's great. It's great. When he starts running. When he starts running. Action right at weeks face.

[PFT Commenter]

I do think that if you're an industrious young student in Baton Rouge, a shirt that said she calls him daddy, too, with a picture of wit, weeks would go hard. You could sell. You could make a couple $10,000 mid five figures on that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I would agree. I would agree. Make some. Make some T shirts. Get the T shirt. The game isn't Ole Miss, but make some T shirts. Get it going. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You can still do T shirts.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for sure. Okay. Your hot seat. Cool throne. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

My hot seat is me and Hank's relationship.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Because not again. We got a great relationship.

[Big Cat]

Are you guys gonna get out of this? Golf?

[PFT Commenter]

We're gonna golf our way through it. We have. We. We have a video, Hank and I from the Ryder cup that we're gonna be putting out. Hank and I went head to head in the Ryder Cup.

[Big Cat]

Great match.

[PFT Commenter]

And is that coming out Thursday?

[Greg Olson]

Thursday or Friday?

[PFT Commenter]

Thursday or Friday.

[Greg Olson]

One of those two days.

[PFT Commenter]

A great match. It was. It was teacher again. Student. Hank's been doing a great job working me on my swing, get me ready for the Internet invitational. And I was dealing with an excruciating back problem at the time, but I said, put me in their coach. I want the opportunity to play against my. My real coach off the field. And I had fun playing with you. And we'll see who won. Sounds like fun. Yeah.

[Memes]

I don't understand the hots. What? What?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it's just us competing against each other at something that we care so deeply about. Like, emotions were high.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

It was fun. I love. I love competing against you. I'm excited for.

[PFT Commenter]

For our match.

[Memes]

Even though PFT's secretly been taking lessons and won't admit it.

[Big Cat]

Oh, this is.

[PFT Commenter]

This is.

[Big Cat]

Is that a fair accusation?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't want to tell Hank if it's a fair accusation or not, but it's not.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I have not taken a single lesson. But I figured something out. Oh, But Hank sounds like a lesson. This is actually great. No, this is actually great.

[Memes]

As someone who watched him swing for, for two months, Hank is going around. I've seen him, I've seen him in the last two weeks and it's like something has drastically changed.

[PFT Commenter]

You're drastically. Hank's going around the office telling everybody, pft, got a lesson and I didn't get a lesson. And he is so rattled by my new swing that it's awesome for me also what's right.

[Greg Olson]

He's allowed to get a lesson.

[Big Cat]

No, I know.

[Memes]

No, I know. No, it's more he just won't admit it. Like, it's like I, I again, like I spent so much time watching him and if you watch, you know, the first couple Ryder cup matches, he struggled, struggled mightily and no, I won the.

[PFT Commenter]

First Ryder cup match or the second.

[Memes]

Rider, whatever the alternate shop didn't play well and you had back issues and there was just, you know, I, I, I knew, like I was your coach. I knew how far you were hitting your clubs and stuff. And then I've seen you in the last two weeks and it's like 20, 30, 40 yards difference.

[PFT Commenter]

I told you I figured something out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Figure something out.

[Memes]

Which I feel like means lesson, but you won't.

[PFT Commenter]

I did ask for lessons and I had people that reached out to me about lessons and I did not take them up on it. I said, I'm, I'm a man. I don't listen. I'm not gonna let another man tell me how to swing a golf club.

[Big Cat]

True.

[PFT Commenter]

Kind of sus.

[Big Cat]

Are you a cool throne?

[PFT Commenter]

My cool throne is everyone. All of us. Oh, because we're still here.

[Big Cat]

Oh yeah. The rapture.

[PFT Commenter]

The rapture. The rapture was going to be. It didn't happen.

[Big Cat]

So maybe not yet. Day's not over.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's, I feel like Tuesday's over in some parts of the world already.

[Big Cat]

That's true.

[PFT Commenter]

So it didn't happen on Tuesday.

[Big Cat]

You're listening to this. Then we made it.

[PFT Commenter]

It was supposed to, we're supposed to, we're supposed to get the rapture today, which is when Jesus comes down to earth and then takes like a billion people up to heaven and Thanos. Yeah. Well then the rest of us have to stay down here and sort it out. Then we get a seven year granos. Then we get seven years to figure it out amongst ourselves. It's like when you're and parents send you to your room and they're like, hey, go and think about what you've Done. And I'm gonna come get you, and you tell me what you did wrong, then you can come out. That's what Jesus is going to do during the Rapture. And then everyone on Earth, we get like a do over. And we get to then be like, hey, yeah, when you come back, I want to get raptured, so I'm going to get baptized and believe in you.

[Big Cat]

Who decided it was the Rapture today?

[PFT Commenter]

One guy on Tick Tock.

[Big Cat]

You got to kill yourself.

[PFT Commenter]

No, that's not how raptures.

[Big Cat]

If you call the end of the world and it doesn't end, you can't be here anymore, buddy.

[Greg Olson]

You're out.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Big Cat]

That's. I mean, that's a cult thing. Like when they did the Heaven's Gate, and they're like, yeah, it's coming down. Like, dude, if you try to call your shot, you got to be out.

[PFT Commenter]

At the end of the day. I do. Like, you got to take your hat off to the Heaven's Gate cult.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but I'm just saying they're about.

[PFT Commenter]

They're about that life.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they swaggy as fuck. But I'm just saying, like, you can't call the end of the world and then have it not happen and then still be here. That's not fair.

[PFT Commenter]

In theory, yes. But everybody that's ever predicted the end of the world should be out, they'll just spin it. They'll just be like, should be out rule. We got to wait. God was testing me to see if I believe that there would be a rapture. But turns out I passed that test by telling everyone else. So now stand by, because he's going to come back to me when it's really time.

[Big Cat]

Think about how electric it would be if that was a rule. Because, like, hey, if someone's going to call it, like, you're putting your life on the line.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You better really mean it. You can't just say it. Yeah. Otherwise people just fucking say it everywhere. Oh, yeah. Fucking 20, 20, 48. World's gonna end. Yep. No. All right. It doesn't happen. You got to be out. I think that's a hard and fast rule.

[PFT Commenter]

So we did not get raptured. We're still around.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I did like the advice that people were giving on TikTok, though.

[Big Cat]

About what?

[PFT Commenter]

About the Rapture, about how to handle being raptured. If it's your first time, they were saying, okay, so don't look down because it's gonna be scary. As you're floating up, you want to keep Your eyes in front of you. Maybe keep your eyes even pointed upwards. You want to take deep breaths through your nose out through. They were getting really deep into the advice.

[Big Cat]

What are you gonna say? Counterpoint the rapture could have happened. Yeah. Because it says because we're the six. That would mean we're. We're the.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

Like the good people get sucked up into the sky and the bad people are left to rock. It's plot of this is the end.

[PFT Commenter]

But I feel like you.

[Big Cat]

But I'm fine with that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Don't you go to hell in a bucket.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't you enjoy the ride.

[Big Cat]

Sucked up We. What? That means we're. We're the bat. We wouldn't know. We've been in here for. We. We don't know anyone good enough to get raptured.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach would have gotten raptured.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. He didn't text that girl back for a while.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Zach would go, we have.

[Big Cat]

Been here in here for a little bit now.

[Greg Olson]

The Roger could have happened.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What if we were the last ones around? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I would love to see Zach meeting Jesus. Oh, thank you, sir. You're so nice.

[Big Cat]

Oh, hello, sir. Oh, sir. Would you like some ice cream? Sir?

[PFT Commenter]

Sir. How are you doing?

[Big Cat]

All right. My hot seat is Auburn basketball. Bruce Pearl has named his son Steven the head coach. Five year contract. We like Bruce Pearl. We like Stephen. But Bruce Pearl did have a receipt pulled on him when Stephen A. Smith was speaking about nepotism in sports. And Bronnie James. Bruce Pearl said, preach. Stephen A. This is. Listen, I'm. I'm fine with it. Just be like, yeah, this is. He's probably not qualified, but I wanted my son to have a job. So I'm going to. I'm going to retire right before the season when no one can transfer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's kind of a strange time to announce it. Some people were speculating that he's going to run for Senate.

[Big Cat]

Well, I don't think. It's actually not a strange time. I think this is the new move because you basically lock in your roster. Like if he announced it right after the tournament last year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He doesn't set up his son to have a successful transition now. He kind of has set him up.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. But it also is like last minute thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For the fan base.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But I think that's the team by. By design.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But for the team, it's like, I don't know. I feel like that's an announcement that should be Made way earlier in the off season.

[Big Cat]

Want to set up his son instead.

[PFT Commenter]

Of the day before you get started.

[Big Cat]

He wanted to set up his son. Yeah. I.

[PFT Commenter]

Some people say he might run for Senate, which would set up potentially a race between Bruce Pearl and former Tennessee football coach Derek Dooley. So two former Tennessee coaches that were there at the exact same time would be running for senate in Alabama. Bruce, I don't think is indicating that he's going to run yet.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But he might. He might. Because Tuberville is on his way out and Bruce Pearl, at least he won.

[Big Cat]

I do like this good coach. I do love that in the south, like, they're like, yeah, who should run our. Our state?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

A coach.

[PFT Commenter]

The reality is if you're running, if you're running for senate in Alabama, you're just begging that Nick Saban doesn't throw his hat in the room.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Because Tommy Tuberville.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to coach? You want to coach in charge. And then my cool throne. It was going to be some. Oh, I guess I'll just do this. What? Bill Nye got a Hollywood walk of fame and Jalen Brown was there.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, cool.

[Big Cat]

Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill. What? It's kind of random. He just respects science.

[Memes]

He loves Bill Nye.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he does? Yeah. I didn't know that.

[Memes]

Yeah, yeah, he like tweeted like a long, like when he was in college, like, I really want to meet Bill Nye. Bill.

[Big Cat]

That's very funny.

[Memes]

Bill Nye came to one of the celtics games and like, it was like.

[Big Cat]

A big look at him. He gave him. He gave a speech. That's really funny.

[PFT Commenter]

That's awesome. That's aura right there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that is. Or that's maximum.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a leader.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I respect Bill Nye just as a. As a human. He would be probably top five for me in terms of if Bill Nye was canceled for being a scumbag. That would like, that would wreck my childhood. Yeah, it's him and Weird Al. Those are the two big ones.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wow. Yeah, they are boys. That's very funny. All right, Zach. Hot sequel to rock My hot seat this week is Gervonta Davis. Did any of you guys see the presser with Javante and Jake Paul yesterday? Yes. Tank. Yeah. He is a three time world champion.

[Greg Olson]

But size different wise. The only requirement they have on, like.

[Big Cat]

The weight for the fight is that you can't go over 195 pounds. He's like 7 inches shorter, 9 inches of reach.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, I know.

[Big Cat]

He's way better of a fighter. Is there a chance he just gets starched by someone this much bigger? It is going to be a great test of like, he's a significantly better boxer, but he is way shorter on.

[PFT Commenter]

Tomorrow'S part of my take. Yep, that's what I see when I see that picture.

[Big Cat]

There it is. By the way, congrats. You signed Desmond Watson. Zach, that's. That's huge for Desmond. Great for us, but massive for Desmond and the touch push. I don't know. We. We historically do pretty well against a tush push. Yeah, get him in. Before Desmond, we had a 400 pound guy to our tush push package. Yeah. Vita V and Desmond. That's a lot of meat.

[PFT Commenter]

Is Lane playing big body?

[Big Cat]

He said he was gonna play. All right. Mike Evans out for three to four weeks. That's a bummer. Disappointing, but I'm just glad it's not the whole season. Hope he gets well soon. Yeah. All right. Your cool throne. My cool throne this week is Call of Duty enjoyers because the multiplayer for Black Ops 7's trailer did drop. Oh, and I think it's gonna be we're taking a little bit more of or they're taking a little bit more of a futuristic approach again, which we haven't seen since Infinite Warfare. A little bit of wall running. 30 maps at launch or 30 weapons at launch? 18 maps. I think it'll be good. Okay. All right. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I could be just overly optimistic because I don't want it to suck, but.

[Greg Olson]

For right now, I think it'll be good.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Good. Hot seat. Cool throne. All right, let's get to our interviews. We got Greg Olson and then Goose the band. And then we'll finish up with Pardon your takes.

[Memes]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is our guy, Greg Olson. You can hear him on Sundays. Uh, Greg, thank you for joining us. Thank you for not dressing like an umpire. Uh, should we talk about that? Because.

[Greg Olson]

Let's talk about it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Dave was busting your balls on Monday morning on Wake Up Barstool. Uh, you did look like an umpire. I don't know if we would have said anything because we've already said something about your sport coat. We've already gone down that path. Then everyone was like, oh, Greg Olson hates Dave. Do you hate Dave of.

[Greg Olson]

I actually was just Texting with Dave 30 minutes ago. And no, I don't. I've known Dave for 20 years.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Greg Olson]

We go way back. You're allowed to bust your buddy's balls, but the key is you got to give it right back to him.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Greg Olson]

Like it can't be a one sided deal. Dave and I have known each other for a long time. We bust each other's balls a lot over the years. Of course I don't hate him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, it was, it was very clear to me the Internet was going to run with it and it was.

[Greg Olson]

Like, yeah, that's okay. We actually was.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We've known Greg forever and to be honest, like, you were dressed like an umpire.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah. And I think it was. I mean, I don't, I don't need the, I don't need the Barstool edit guys making like, what are those, like those memes of me dressed like an umpire. I thought maybe my, my credibility with the Barstool brand maybe would. We don't need to make it like I'm like the, the butt of the joke.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

But you know what?

[Big Cat]

That, that kind of was on you because you dress like an umpire. So that was kind of on you.

[PFT Commenter]

Also some guy. Sometimes guys are just sick of each other's shit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And so you got to just bust your.

[Greg Olson]

You just gotta go back. And it's all in good fun. And it's all in good. It's all, it's all in love. And I actually was literally texting with Dave before I came on the show 30 minutes ago, joking about how the Internet is amazing and the Internet is crazy and everyone Thinks we hate each other. And I'm just gonna let it be out there and just let it fester.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Well, are you gonna stop dressing like an umpire moving forward?

[Greg Olson]

No, I'm not gonna really give much more thoughts into my outfits. The hat and the shirt were not supposed to go together. I was. I was out of town. I flew for my game. I was in. I had to fly to New York. I had to do a meeting in the morning. It was early. I got up before I had to to do Dave's show, which I'm happy to do. Didn't feel like doing my hair. I had gotten dressed for the day, and then that was the only hat that I had. So I was like, I'm not gonna. I can wear a hat on this show. Hence I'm wearing a hat today.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Greg Olson]

It was the only hat I had, and I hadn't done my hair.

[Big Cat]

And.

[Greg Olson]

It never dawned on me that I looked like an umpire.

[PFT Commenter]

But next week, you should have a chest protector.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You should lean into it. Just go all the way.

[Greg Olson]

I might go mass.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good.

[Greg Olson]

Lean in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay, Go ahead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

I was like, I was going to wear my sport coat on here today.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, that one that looks like you shot a couch and then.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Had it upholstered onto your chest.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Big Cat]

And you tried to shame me and say that your wife picked it out and make me feel bad. Yeah, I know.

[Greg Olson]

She did pick it out. And she. She's yet to try your coffee ever again.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, probably because she didn't want anybody at home being like, oh, my husband's hot. I'm going to make a him wear the ugliest thing possible.

[Greg Olson]

Mine. That's a good spin. My husband is so hot, I have to dress him down.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yeah, that's exactly what.

[PFT Commenter]

That's why I dress like this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

I'm going. I'm moving with. I'm moving forward with that. I like that.

[Big Cat]

I like that one. All right, so week three is in the books. You have done three games. Obviously, so far, you've done the same. The 49ers, Seahawks, Giants, Dallas Rams, Eagles. Out of those six, team, who are you most impressed with? I assume it's going to be the Eagles. But let's talk about the games you've actually covered, because I feel like you get extra insight into those.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, I mean, as far as team that I think can make the longest run, the deepest run, I think, of the six that I've seen. Yeah. I think Philly and the Rams, I mean, I think Philly and the Rams, I know the Rams lost, but I thought for most of the game they controlled it. They dominated the entire first half. The score, we said it over and over. They kept settling for field goals. They couldn't punch it in. And the game felt so much worse than the score was at halftime. Then they come out, they get the quick turnaround on the strip sack score, and you go, oh my God, are we in for a boat race? And then all of a sudden, the Eagles decided to let Jalen Hurts play quarterback and start throwing the ball to AJ Brown and Devontae Smith and Dallas Goddard and they started going up and down the field. I think that took some pressure off the Philly defense that they settled in. And I think the fast start by the Rams, especially defensively, was kind of wasted because they just couldn't score enough touchdowns. And you're going to continue to see teams do it. And you know, we saw it last night with the Lions game. Like, everyone has to stop thinking kicking the ball is all. The days of we're going to play field position, the days of let's just take the points, those have to be over. You are going to lose. In the NFL nowadays, every time you kick the ball, a punt or a kick or a field goal, it's a bad play. Unless it is a 50 plus yard field goal on 4th and long, you should not kick field goals that much in a game or you're going to lose. And we see it time and time again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, it's a good point.

[PFT Commenter]

It is a good point. And yeah, I think coaches are starting to catch up to that. And that's the way the NFL is going. And every time Dan Campbell does it, it's for a reason. And he's made his name as being an aggressive coach. I think the players like it too. I think it's just part of like the, the culture of that team that he's got where if you know that your coach believes in you and believes in your defense too, conversely, if you don't get it, I feel like that's just something that, that helps everybody in the locker room all get on the same page.

[Greg Olson]

There's no doubt. And when it becomes ingrained in everything that you do, there's no question, there's no. Half the huddle is saying, why are we doing this? And half the huddle is excited. Like you're saying, it's, it's baked in the other aspect of this that I think needs to get a lot More conversation is everyone right now is talking about analytics and these charts and go for it, and they don't. But the real. It really boils down to. For a lot of head coaches. So we'll take Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell can lose that playoff game a couple of years ago where they went over on fourth down, and he can stand at the podium and he's confident enough and. And stands tall enough and says, you know what? It didn't work today. I'll take that as the coach. We lost the game because I was aggressive on fourth down and we didn't win. Not a lot of coaches like standing there saying, it falls on me. Right. When you get a field goal blocked or you fail, you know, you don't you, hey, we kick a lot of field goals. We got to get better. We have to execute better. The kicker has to be better. The long snapper has to be better. There's a lot of guys that have to be better. When you fail on fourth down, the only guy that gets asked is the head coach, why did you go for it on fourth down? Why did you pass up points? Why didn't you punt? Or whatever. The question is, it takes a certain type of guy to stand up there when it doesn't work out and say, you know what? That's on me. I'm good with it. And if I could do it all over again, I'm going to do it again. Like, that's what it takes. Everyone wants to do it, but not everyone wants to answer the questions if it fails.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's why I'm okay with it when he does it in the playoffs and it doesn't work and they end up going home for the season. They did it all year long. I'm. I'm completely. I will never trash Dan Campbell for being too aggressive in a game, even if it's a playoff game that a field goal might have helped them win in that case, because that's not who he is. Hank is not here right now. I think he is boycotting this interview because he took Dave's side in the beef. But he. And why and big.

[Greg Olson]

What was his take?

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think Hank is just going to take his side in any. Any beef involving Dave. I think it's kind of how he operates. But Hank and me and Big Cat have had a little back and forth in the last couple weeks about. About Tom Brady being in the Raiders booth after calling the games. And we tried to force him to admit that it was weird that you have an NFL owner that's on the headset in the booth that's also doing this. You know, the. The advanced meetings that you're having, the prep meetings. So you are in the business. I. I'm curious to know what kind of information gets shared as you're going into a game. Like what. What type of prep do you put in and how much info do you actually get from teams.

[Greg Olson]

I'm going to answer your question. But literally, as you were asking that question, I got a text from Big Cat and I checked my phone and it was a picture of an umpire.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So Memes. Memes is sending us edits. So then I was like, oh, shit, here's an edit. I'm going to send it to you. So, yeah, it's very funny. We put it up in the YouTube while you're watching this.

[Greg Olson]

Good thing I got thick skin. It's a good thing. Tell Hank to stop being so sensitive. Me and Dave, very, very good. And we're fine.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Right.

[Greg Olson]

So to answer your question, it depends on who you talk to. Right. Like, there are some coaches where we know going into the meeting, we only have to talk to them. They're going to be very forthright, they're going to be very honest. They're going to tell us exactly where the matchups are, exactly what the thought processes are. Here's how we're going to handle the game. Expect more pass, expect more heavy person. You know, whatever it is, they're going to tell us, and they know over years of doing this now that there's a level of trust that. That it's sacred and that it doesn't go any further. And then obviously it's not going to be shared with anyone outside of the call, and it just helps us do our job. Injuries and starting lineups and whatnot. There are some teams and some coaches who tell you nothing and it's not personal. It's just. It's their style, it's their nature, and they don't offer up anything outside of very coach speak. It almost is more like a press conference. Right. We're going to. We got to protect the ball. We've got to do a better job on third down. We got to play hard. The other team is so good. This is a huge challenge. And then you hang up and you say, I could have gotten that from their press conference. So you get both ends of the spectrum and then obviously some degrees of difference in between, but every team, it's up to them. So in regards to Tom, like I've said this now a few times, like I have no problems with it. However, a team wants to handle their production meetings with me, with him. The situation is entirely up to them, and whatever they see fit that they think protects their information, they have every right to. So if Tom, you know, if they don't want to tell Tom anything, great. If they feel comfortable and they don't think Tom's going to take it and go anywhere with it, which I assume he's not, then they'll tell them more than they can. So, like, it really isn't that big of a deal. There's one or two nuggets from every production meeting, on average, that really ever make the broadcast.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess being prepared, like, if you were. If you were a TV announcer for the Mexican Football League while also serving as an owner of our Osos, our beloved Osos, do you think that the other coaches would share things with you and be as open with you?

[Greg Olson]

That's a great question. I feel like we should test it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we should test it. Would you call a game for the Mexican Football League?

[Greg Olson]

Can I do it in English?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think so.

[Greg Olson]

No habla espanol.

[PFT Commenter]

Just be like, bueno, Puerto airobano quarterback.

[Big Cat]

And then just never come back.

[PFT Commenter]

Los Osos estan bueno football.

[Greg Olson]

I could just say that over and over and over again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Malo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Interception. Malo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

Goal. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Hit him with a goal.

[Greg Olson]

He's ready. Said more Spanish than I know. So you guys, You. Maybe you should do it, and I'll just be, like, the sidekick.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I like that. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Sunday, Ravens, Chiefs. Whoever loses that game, should we be concerned?

[Greg Olson]

Yeah. I mean, now, you know, now we're starting to get into, you know, the first couple of weeks of the season. I think everyone jumps to conclusions, and everyone jumps to just try to, you know, either crown the team who they think is the best and then they let us down, or they try to, you know, all but, you know, toss a team to the side and they end up getting hot. I think we've done that to the Chiefs multiple years over the. You know, over time. And they always seem down the stretch to find their way and show up in the playoffs and win playoff games. No one gives them a chance to, and next thing you know, they're in the super bowl and win or lose the Super Bowl. So I feel like we've tried to do this to the Chiefs before, and we all need to learn our lesson to, like, give them the entire season to figure it out, because all they really have to do nowadays is make the playoffs and do you really want to play them in the playoffs? Andy Reid and Mahomes in a one game winner take all? Probably not. I still think Baltimore is a really good team. I've now seen them lose a couple games through the first three weeks that I said, how the hell did they lose those games? They played well offensively. The turnovers obviously have now happened twice. You know, they've lost now two games with Derek Henry having a big fumble down the stretch. I watched three quarters of last night's game. I still think they're really good. I think defensively they got some issues. I think defensively they got to tighten it up a little bit, but I think Lamar and that offense is still explosive. They didn't get a ton out of the run game last night with Derek Henry, and then once he fumbled, I don't know if he even played again. I really try not to put indictments on teams after week four, five. Like when it's week 12, 14 and we really get into, you know, the holidays, then I think we'll really have a good picture of what teams are capable of, who can go far, who's kind of a flash in the pan. I think to make those decisions in even four games is just really hard.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair. And the Ravens last year, they kind of changed their identity, especially on defense, and they pulled it together. So they're capable.

[Greg Olson]

They started terribly on defense last year and then became one of the best defenses in football, give or take, around the halfway point. So why are they having to do it again? There's a million reasons that this happens, and coaches have to reinvent themselves, but it's not something we haven't seen at either team. We've seen the Chiefs start slow offensively and their defense be really good and lose some close ones, but you're like, all right, they're actually better than. Maybe we give them credit. And then Baltimore, same way. Their offense obviously has been scoring a lot of points. They just, you know, they have that one turnover and then obviously defensively, they're not nearly as good right now as they were the back half of last year.

[Big Cat]

So. Question about the fumbles. Do you have. This is a fun Greg Olson trivia question. How many fumbles did you have in your career?

[Greg Olson]

My. I'm gonna answer your question. I gotta add them up in my head. My. But I'll. I want to add my own answer to a question you didn't ask me.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Greg Olson]

My most embarrassing, worst NFL game of my entire life. Ironically, I was playing for The Bears. We were playing against the Carolina Panthers, which was odd because I ended up getting traded there and my second year. So this was like 2008, we were in Carolina. I had two passes thrown to me, caught them both, fumbled them both, lost both fumbles and we lost game. That was probably the low of my lows.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Greg Olson]

So thank you. I got it out of the way early.

[Big Cat]

So I had two.

[Greg Olson]

I would say in my 14 years I had six.

[Big Cat]

You had. So here's the crazy part about your career. You had seven fumbles but you are net only down one because you either you recovered six. That's pretty crazy.

[Greg Olson]

Well, I. Off the top of my head, there's.

[Big Cat]

A year where you didn't fumble. In 09 you didn't fumble, but you recovered two.

[Greg Olson]

Oh, I recovered other people's fumbles.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. So you're only net down one.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah. Oh, so I had a great career.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's incredible.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, it's like a plus minus. I thought you meant I recovered six of my own.

[Big Cat]

No, you recovered other people's fumbles.

[Greg Olson]

Oh yeah. See when you recover other people's fumbles, it's like your fumbles never happen.

[Big Cat]

Yes. You only have one fumble in your career. So.

[Greg Olson]

But the question, 14 years a minus one in the turnover battle.

[Big Cat]

It's pretty good. So my, my question though is like, what do you do if you. I don't think Derrick Henry has like fumble itis. But what happens after you have three games to start the season? Three fumbles? Like is it as simple as going old school and just walking around with the football all day?

[Greg Olson]

Well, if you're someone other than Derek Henry, your playing time probably goes down pretty significantly.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Greg Olson]

I don't imagine I, if I was Derek Henry's coach, if I was Harbaugh, I would not alter his touches. He's Derek Henry. He's been doing this for a long time. He's one of the best backs we've ever seen. So like I'm not going to over correct and just like remove him from the game. I think you're, I think the defense would say, sure, have your non fumble running back. We don't have to tackle Derrick Henry. So I don't want to do the defense any favors by taking carries out of his hand. I think a lot of the times it becomes mental and what you don't want, especially for a guy like Derrick Henry, is where he's. You see these guys and they're so worried about ball security and their two hands and they're cupping the wrist and they're running so tight that they're not nearly as effective as a runner where the fear of fumbling almost makes them unaffective. Right. Because their only hope is, are you can tackle me, knock me down. I'm not going to try to stiff arm you. I'm not going to try to really be aggressive running through contact because at the end of the play the only thing I care about for the next couple of weeks is that I don't fumble again. You can't have that. You can't have that as your running back. It doesn't matter who you are. So I think it's business as usual. I think it's one of those things if you, you over focus on it, you can almost make it worse. Right. I don't think he needs to be out there with a thousand bungee cords on a ball and doing, I think he's got to do his normal ball security drills, his normal off running back individual drills. I don't think they need to talk about it a lot. I don't think you want to continue to draw attention. This is something that needs to be flushed from his head and like it's almost like the yips.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

Like get it out of his head. And the more you talk and emphasize it, it almost gets worse.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

We also were saying that not all fumbles are created equally like the Aiden Hutchinson made an incredible play. Yeah. Where it's like what do you, I think 99 of running backs fumble in that situation where you get a perfect punch on a ball.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that running scared though and running, thinking about fumbling, that, that would probably be appropriate for that Ed Oliver fumble.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because that was, that was a different situation. You have a lead in that, in that circumstance and you, you're just trying to kill the clock. But yeah, you're, you're right. I agree with you. I feel like if, if you were to just constantly be worried about fumbling the ball, then you take away everything that made Derek Henry a great running back to begin with and then nobody's happy. Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

And then, and then whether you fumble or not, you're not nearly as impactful on the game and, and then you're not moving the needle. So it's a very fine like that kind of stuff, like the mental side of failure in sports, whether it's the guy who can't get a hit and he's in a 10 game slump or the guy who can't buy a free throw or he can't make a layup and like We've all been there, and it's hard to get through the mental side of it. And it's not because of where his hand is on the ball and you know everyone's going to give him a thousand pointers. The points got to be up. It's got to be against your chest. It can't be disconnected. Cup your wrist in traffic to, like. There's all these, like, coaching points which are all valid and it all has to be emphasized. But really, at the end of the day, he's been doing this his entire life. You got to just be Derrick Henry, continue to run people over, run physical. And after a game or two where you get 20 carries and you don't put one on the ground, it gets out of your head and you move on.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you brought up the yips. Is it possible for a receiver to have the yips? Because we saw Marvin Harrison Jr. And then we saw Brian Thomas Jr. All the juniors have the yips right now. It seems like, what is that like?

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, I mean, there's times and again, I. I always feel for these guys because I always put myself in their shoes. Like, it's so easy, especially as a commentator or just right now shooting the shit with you guys. Like, it's so easy to be like, it's not that hard. Catch the ball, don't fumble. Like, I've been there and there was some games, thankfully, I didn't have a ton of issues with drops in my career. But I'll be honest, there were games were going into the game based on what happened in practice or just a million factors where you went into the game and you're like, I'm not seeing it great. Like, I'm just not tracking it great and I'm not feeling it. I don't see it. And like, you're like, holy shit, I hope I don't have a bunch of drops. Like, it is a real mental battle. And then there's other games where you're feeling so comfortable you could throw the ball behind your head and you knew you were going to catch it. Like, that's real. And I think any player, especially if you've played for a long time, goes through those ups and downs of like, that internal mental battle of your confidence and catching is the yips. Fumbling is the yips. Quarterbacks who are gun shy because they've thrown a lot of interceptions, like, all of a sudden that ball is just a little bit later and they turn down windows and they don't want to push the ball and it turns into check down Charlie. They're taking sacks. Like, that's all mental and it's real. Like, that is real. And I don't give a how good you are. There are periods of everybody's career that they go through that uncertainty and they're questioning themselves. And you better learn as a young player how to work yourself through it. I'll that my second year fumbling that game that changed my entire career because I was like, I refuse to let this happen again. Like, that shit hurts. Like that is bad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What about. What about the team to start? Oh, and three. Like, where are they at mentally? What are you like. Cause that's. It kind of goes on the same thing. The yips a team wide where it's like, football's a really hard sport to play and if you're owing three and you got to get back up on a Sunday and you're looking around, you're like, even I I saw the comments Michael Pittman made after the Colts beat the Titans. He said he could see the Titans didn't have that bounce, that juice pregame. What happens in the locker room when you have a slow start to a season and how do you correct it?

[Greg Olson]

Well, that's where you really start testing your leadership, your locker room, what types of guys you got, what types of leaders you have in the. In the coaching staff. Like, everyone always has good culture when you're winning and there's great energy and every coach is great and every relationship in the locker room and every coach, player relationship, like, everything's fine and dandy, right? Winning cures everything. All of a sudden now you start getting tested by losing. Especially if you're 03 now, entering your fourth game of the season, you haven't gotten a win. And all of a sudden now you start pressing and everything becomes instead of focusing on, hey, let's have a great Wednesday meeting. Let's really have a good first and second down install. Let's have a great focused walkthrough. Hey, guys, let's have a great weight room session. Like whatever Wednesday calls for. The good teams have the ability to be like, hey, let's just worry about the next. But all the teams that have lost are thinking is, we got to do something to get a win. How do we get a win? We got to do something to get a win. And they're putting the cart so far before the horse where you're not going to get a win if you get a shitty Wednesday blitz, period. And you're not going to get a win if you guys don't have a good workout and you guys don't attack the rehab and you have guys who miss practice and the 500 things that go on between the end of the day a game and the following Week's game, there's 5 million boxes to check. And if you don't check them in the right sequence, you're not going to find a win because there's no luck. There's no, there's no easy wins in this league. So it's so cliche when these coaches and these players and they get up there and they talk about one week at a time and all the shit we all laugh about. But for the teams that stink and for the teams that are 03, it is even more critical that they only focus on like literally what they're doing in the given moment. Because if they're so consumed with we need to win, the coach is going to get fired. They're going to bench the quarterback who's going to lose their job. Once that creeps in and you got player only meetings and guys talking stupid shit in press conferences like you're done. Right. Your season is over. You might as well pack your shit up and go home.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Having a players only meeting after the first week for the Dolphins, that, that to me feels a little bit early. Like, what are you going to accomplish in that?

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, we used to have a saying, you know, we used to joke about it, but like once you, once you start having players only meetings, people should start packing their shit up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

Somebody's going to get fired.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And I, I also like on the flip side, when you. I love the videos of the locker room after a win because it is so hard to win in the NFL. How. This is a very dumb question, but I sometimes fantasize about it. How sick was it Sunday night after you win a football game? Was it so sick? What would you eat for dinner?

[Greg Olson]

Well, if it was an away game. All right, so that's a good question. So it really varied home games when we were young. Like home games in Chicago. So my last year in Chicago, we were really good. That 2010 year we went to the NFC championship.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Greg Olson]

Like, we were young, we had no kids, we were downtown. So after a home game, you know, especially, you know, we want a playoff game against Seattle. We want a Monday night. We want a, either a Monday or a Sunday night game against, against the Packers. Like after those big home games. Right. Like you're going out to dinner, you're at Joe Stone Crab. You walk into Joe's and Like, people are giving you a round of applause. Like, the whole city, you know, just rallies around. So a lot of those really cool moments after wins in the locker room and then with your, you know, small group of buddies that you would go out with and your family and whatnot, you know, as we got into, like having kids, like, my highlight after a home win would be like, let's drive through McDonald's and just eat like a 20 chicken nugget and a hot fry and a Coke and just take a deep breath. So, like, as at different stages of your life, there's different, like, pleasures. Like, you know, when you're young in Chicago, you want to go out to a bar, you wanted to go out to dinner. When you're a married dad with three toddlers at home picking up a McDonald's drive thru and going to sit on the couch and watch the Sunday night game after you just had a touchdown and won, like, it doesn't get any.

[Big Cat]

Better than, oh, that's the best.

[PFT Commenter]

That does sound great. What was the best time of day to get a win when you were young in Chicago? Was it like, if you win the early game, then you've got the entire afternoon and evening in front of you or was it winning like a Monday Night football game?

[Greg Olson]

Yeah. So I think when you're young, you wanted to win the earlier game because then you could go out, like, you could go to dinner, you can go to the bar, you can go hang out Sunday night downtown knowing that you had meetings Monday morning. But it wasn't going to be anything crazy when Lovey was the coach when we want. He was my only coach. So I guess when I was in Chicago, if you won, it was mandatory victory Monday. So we didn't even have anything official on Monday. So if you did go in, you win it on your own. And it was, you know, it was.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I'd go in every Monday if I won, just to be like, that was awesome. Go.

[Greg Olson]

You go in because, yeah, you go in. But it's just not. It's not mandatory to meet with your coach. You don't have to do anything official.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you ever have a teammate that. We were speculating that when the Eagles won this last weekend, that Jalen Hurts was going to be like, hey, nobody here should treat this like a winner. We're going into work.

[Greg Olson]

Gonna tell me that I had tissue on my beard?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I thought you cocaine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I didn't notice it.

[Greg Olson]

No, I. You should have told me. So I blew my nose before I came on here and I just shaved.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Greg Olson]

I thought it was light, but that's.

[Big Cat]

Actually good because then the. The it will be tissue gate and no longer. You look like an ump.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, well, I just. Thanks for telling me, guys.

[Big Cat]

I didn't notice. I honestly didn't notice. I get lost in your blue eyes.

[Greg Olson]

What was the question?

[PFT Commenter]

It was about Jalen Hurts. So like him after that game, we were saying that he was probably telling his teammates, no one should treat this like a win. Let's all go to work on Monday. Even if coach was, like, going to give him off Monday, did you ever have a teammate that was like, hey, I know. He said, we don't have to come into work victory Monday, but we're gonna do it. And then did everybody secretly hate that guy for making everybody go to work?

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, it's like the super try hard guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Olson]

You know, in the locker room after the coach gives a speech about like, hey, great. Wins. Wins or wins. Proud of you guys. You earned it. Doesn't always have to be perfect. We got a lot of work to do. And then he's like, hold on, coach. It's not about the coaches. We gotta be better. The coaches are doing a great job. They're putting it. And everyone's looking around like, shut the fuck up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we won.

[Greg Olson]

There's those guys. Those guys exist. I think certain guys on the team can get away with it because they obviously have the credibility. Like when they say, hey, we're going to come in and we're going to watch film on our off day, if it's Jalen Hurts, you know, if it's the right guy, like, guys go, you're right. Like, we probably need to come in and get our shit shit tightened up and do it better. I had no problems when those guys did it. Like, the guys that were just like, really good and every day they battled their ass off and they were super hard workers like those guys, you'd respect and move on. Everyone said when you knew it was the try hard guy and it was the guy that was just doing it because everyone was standing around, that's the guy. When everyone would roll their eyes and be like, you just shut. You just go over there and relax. We'll take care of this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That was a guy that got, like, really carried away with hazing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like, okay, yeah, we know this guy's role.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, he was snapping towels in the high school locker room big time.

[PFT Commenter]

I had a question for you about the bills because we. We love the Bills. Love Josh. Allen, they. They seem to be maybe the best team in the NFL right now. Should we be looking at their wide receiver situation as a weakness, or should we be looking at as a strength the fact that they don't have, like, one guy that you count on to take over a game? They've got a few different guys that they spread it around to. Which side of the optimism, pessimism, coin should be looking at?

[Greg Olson]

I think it's a great question.

[Big Cat]

So. Great question.

[Greg Olson]

It's a really good question because I've actually asked that question to coaches. See, this is where you guys are so good because you bring it back to production.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a great question by you when you asked that question.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To the coaches.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, great question.

[Greg Olson]

But my only question was as good as. Because you asked the better question, the team. I asked Matt LaFleur this exact question. I said, so we had Devonte Adams when, obviously in Green Bay. And when you have a guy like Devonte Adams, you'd be crazy not to find every way humanly possible to get him the ball. And obviously he moves on. And they have all these young wide receivers. They're talented, they're young, they're unproven. But you don't have that, like, clear cut number one. So my. That was my exact question to him is, I've. So I've asked that to the floor. I've asked it to Kevin o', Connell, like, how hard is it to get Justin Jefferson the ball? But then you look at the other side of the coin with, like, a Bills guy. I think every coach would say, yes, I want Justin Jefferson. Yes, I want Jamar Chase. Yes, I want Devonte Adams. And all these marquee guys. Everyone would want one of those guys. They're easier. It's easier said than done. But there is an element, especially for a quarterback, where you don't have to worry about feeding one mouth. You don't have to worry about that one guy not having a target till the third quarter. And body language changes and there's passive aggressives. And we've seen this play out on sidelines for as long as the NFL has been in existence. That's real. Like, coaches feel it, coordinators feel it, quarterbacks feel it. And they. And then you can start pressing. So. So I've always thought if you don't have, like, the marquee. Marquee. Marquee guy, like the dude dude, having a bunch of really good, solid, reliable. Any guy at any moment could take the game over, make the big third down, make the big Touchdown I actually think is easier on everybody. I don't want three number five receivers. Like, that doesn't help me. But if I have like two number twos and like a really good role player, number three, like with Josh Allen as my quarterback is the obvious counterpoint. Like if I have that, I'm feeling pretty good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, in their offensive line is great.

[Greg Olson]

So like take us in 2015, our best year that we had in 15 year we went to the super bowl, we didn't really have a number one receiver. Right. Like I was our leading receiver as a tight end. But like for Cam and for our offense, every game that we came in, like there was a game where Teddy Ginn would go bananas and then there were games, you know, we beat Seattle only because Jericho Kotri makes like a sick third and short grab to keep the drive in the two minute going and Philly Brown would pop off in the NFC championship and have a 75 yard touchdown and then I would have a big game. And then the running, like you never really had to say, if we don't throw him the ball we're going to stink and he's going to lose his shit.

[Big Cat]

Like, right.

[Greg Olson]

We never had any of that. Like, I think for a lot of quarterbacks it's easier to play that way. Depending on the personalities in the room.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it seems like the Bill, they've got good wide receivers and they're often. I'm not saying that they don't have good. They do, but they don't have like the, the Stefan Diggs that they used to have. I feel like he was that, that prime example of a guy that if you don't get him the ball, he might mentally check out a little bit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

And there's a lot of them. It's a very common personality and I don't mean it as a negative. Like these guys, these top tier receivers, they are top tier receivers for a reason. Their mentality is, I'm the best dude on the field, you got to throw me the ball, get me involved. And that's all part of the deal. Like, we all understood that and we were happy that they were in our huddle.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

Like that's the reality. So if you can have just a deep, good, solid, but still talented core, but you don't have the elite Justin Jefferson type guy, we've seen it time and time again. You can still be one of the best offenses in football and then you throw in the best player in football and Josh Allen is the one that has the ball in his hand on every play, spitting around. It's. It's more than good enough to win with. And obviously the Bills have won a bazillion games.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What's the one team we're not talking enough about three weeks into the season?

[Greg Olson]

So who. I don't know. Tell me who you guys are talking a lot about.

[Big Cat]

Tell me. Chargers. It feels like the Chargers. You could do good or bad. Chargers obviously very good. Are we talking enough about the Broncos? Are they actually in trouble? Something like that? I don't know.

[Greg Olson]

I mean Chargers was the first one that popped in my mind. I just didn't know if spent a lot of time. I feel like now people talk more about the Chargers not because of their records, obviously they're good, but like Herbert's playing out of his mind and Harbaugh.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

Brings a lot more attention and a lot more credibility and just gets a lot more eyeballs and attention. So they were, they're like my first instinct when people say like all right, especially in the AFC where it's like Buffalo, Baltimore, you know, all the Kansas, the Chiefs, like all the usual suspects. But like this year does feel like the year that the Chargers enter like, okay, are we now adding another top tier team to the afc that it's no longer Buffalo, Kansas City and, and Baltimore, Buffalo and Kansas City is like the clear three headed monster of the afc. Again, it's three weeks, but I feel like this is the year that the Chargers now enter that conversation.

[Big Cat]

I agree with that. What about the Seahawks? You called the Seahawks game, Week 1. Are the Seahawks good that we're going to watch them on Thursday Night Football? I, I think their defense is really good. I don't know. I don't fully know their offense yet because even that game against the Saints, like they didn't even need Sam Donald was good, but it wasn't like he was in game pressure situations. It was such an avalanche that they did on the Saints.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah. And again I saw him in that week one against the 49ers. I'll tell you, a team that I have a lot of respect for is the 49ers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

The fact that they're three. No. Now do I think, listen, McCaffrey being healthy, he's. McCaffrey, he's sick. You know, they think they're going to get Purdy back. They'll get IUK back at some point. But like how many of these injuries can they weather?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

Right now they lose Bosa. They've already been out with Kittle and Purdy for the last couple of weeks. Hopefully Kittle's back here soon. So if they can continue to find ways to win, they'll get back. These guys. With the exception of Bosa, I think the fact that they're three no is pretty remarkable.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Mac Jones doing a pretty good job.

[Greg Olson]

It's pretty impressive that they've been able to keep that thing afloat going into the season. They were banged up and then they lose in week one. They lose Kittle and then Purdy and Kittle don't play since and now obviously Bosa. So I think they're pretty impressive to ask about now. They. I saw them play Seattle and they ended up pulling that game out. There were times in that game where I was like, Seattle's for real. Like, this defense is talented. They're good at all three levels. They might not have like a superstar. Superstar. Leonard Williams is probably a superstar on the defensive line, but they're just like really good at all three levels. The Seahawks, offensively, that day they were just okay. I think they've played better in the last two weeks since I saw them last. I like Sam. I think he's a good fit with. With Kubiak system that he's bringing in is kind of very similar to what he did in Minnesota with the Kevin o'. Connell. Is anybody a better quarterback coach than Kevin o'?

[PFT Commenter]

Connell?

[Big Cat]

It's hard to. I mean like maybe. Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

I mean again, I'm not like McVeigh sick Shanahan. I mean there's a million good coaches, but yeah. What he has done with veteran quarterbacks, his last three in a row he got Kirk Cousins paid a bazillion dollars off of an injury. Obviously what he did last year with Sam. And now granted it's a small sample size with with Carson went but like.

[Big Cat]

Can he do it with Desmond Ritter? That's the big thing. They signed him. I think he's going to try to like go for the moonshot and be like, watch this guys.

[Greg Olson]

Now he's just showing off.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like a foster home for dogs. For older dogs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I will find this quarterback his forever home.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's getting guys paid. Greg, it's been awesome. I got one last question for you. It's a robot question. R H O b a c k.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. What game are you on Sunday? Orioles, Yankees, White Sox, Nationals. What game are you Are you doing Sunday?

[Greg Olson]

I'm actually in Ireland.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Greg Olson]

At 9:30 Eastern.

[Big Cat]

Whoa.

[PFT Commenter]

Cricket.

[Greg Olson]

8:30 Central. Doing the Minnesota Vikings and the Pittsburgh Steelers from Dublin, Ireland.

[Big Cat]

Oh, boy. Body clock issues.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What's your travel schedule? I know we make a big deal of that.

[Big Cat]

Are you.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you flying out earlier in the week or you're flying out?

[Greg Olson]

Flying out Thursday. I'm gonna try to get on local time. So I'm flying out Thursday. I fly from Charlotte. Gonna connect through Boston. Through Boston and then go direct Boston. So I get in like Friday morning at 5am Dublin, like local Dublin time. I have no idea, like how time zones work. I'm horrible at it. Are they. They might be like, sit. I hate to say this. Every time I say six or seven, my kids like, look at me funny. I have no idea how many hours ahead it is, but I land 5am local time. I'm gonna try to power through the day, get on local time, and I'm excited now. I've never been there. Have you guys ever been to Ireland?

[Big Cat]

I have.

[PFT Commenter]

It's incredible.

[Greg Olson]

What do I got to do? What should I do?

[PFT Commenter]

Drink a Guinness, Drink a lot of beer.

[Big Cat]

The. The Guinness is best better in Ireland.

[Greg Olson]

Can I tell you guys something that is probably going to be bigger than sport coat gate, umpire gate, and all my other tissue gate.

[Big Cat]

Tissue gate? Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

That's just. I don't know if that's a gate. That's just bad friends not telling me again.

[Big Cat]

You have incredible blue eyes. I don't know what you want me to do. I'm staring at them.

[Greg Olson]

Okay, thank you. I'll take that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

And I'm. This is probably not going to go over. I've never drank a Guinness in my life.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So you gotta have.

[PFT Commenter]

Gotta have it.

[Big Cat]

You gotta have it.

[PFT Commenter]

It's good. It's like a beer milk.

[Greg Olson]

Telling me that I need to have. Have one because it's so much better than American Guinness. And I keep just saying, like, I don't even know what American Guinness tastes like. So I got. I feel like I gotta have.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, go drink it.

[Greg Olson]

Here's my question. Should I have an American Guinness before I go?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, you should. You should go to the store.

[Greg Olson]

Or should I let my first ever Guinness be an original?

[PFT Commenter]

No, you should go into like a. A shitty bar and then if they have Guinness, be like, I'll have one Guinness, please. That way you get a baseline for Guinness and then you go over to Ireland and then you can come back and be like, oh, it's so much better.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do that.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't even know.

[Big Cat]

Do that.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, that's good advice.

[PFT Commenter]

You'll have a great time over there. You should actually wear, like. You should go full Irish, like, dress in the booth. Put on the scally cap.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe, like, a nice wool vest over a plaid undershirt.

[Big Cat]

Sick.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Really played up.

[Big Cat]

You'd look good. By the way, we should mention when I.

[Greg Olson]

When I get made fun of by.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're setting you.

[Greg Olson]

Which is pretty much the only reason to do it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right. Let us. Let us have something to talk about. By the way, you're wearing the hat right now. You think it's your podcast. I went on it. It was so much fun. Everyone should go listen to it. Greg interviews different people, talking about being a dad, a mom, kids playing sports. It was really fun. I enjoyed the hell out of it. And I had, like. I got bonus points. People were like. My wife was like, oh, that was a good interview. I was like, thanks. Thank you for listening. Awesome.

[Greg Olson]

I can't thank you enough for coming on, dude. Obviously, your audience and your personality and everyone loves you, and it was a huge. It was a huge boost for us. So. So as I texted you and as I've said to you a thousand times, I owe you and I appreciate you coming on, dude. It was a huge.

[Big Cat]

You could pay me back. You want to pay me back?

[Greg Olson]

Yeah. What do I got to do?

[Big Cat]

Scally cap Sunday morning. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How seriously do you take.

[Greg Olson]

Could I have a razor in the bed? Like a razor?

[Big Cat]

Just be a Peaky Blinder. Oh, just think about it now.

[Greg Olson]

You got my brain moving.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Just think about it.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah. Like, do I get into character?

[Big Cat]

Okay. Do with an Irish accent?

[PFT Commenter]

What you could do is you could also wear a kil Kilt, and nobody would know.

[Big Cat]

It'd be like. That's true.

[PFT Commenter]

It'd be underneath the.

[Greg Olson]

Is it kill Scottish or Irish?

[PFT Commenter]

They do in Ireland, too, though. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All the same thing.

[PFT Commenter]

You can do. You can do that in Ireland.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

They've got Regalia.

[Big Cat]

Bagpipes. Play some bagpipes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's how. Or just do the. Do the job drunk. You can be drunk on the air in Ireland.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's managed.

[Greg Olson]

Can I have a Guinness?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah, you should.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yes.

[Greg Olson]

You're allowed in overseas. The rules don't apply. Right, Exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

It's acceptable.

[Big Cat]

Exactly. Also, congrats on the. You being back.

[Greg Olson]

I was waiting. Thank you.

[Big Cat]

You guys are really good.

[Greg Olson]

Congrats to me as well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Greg Olson]

Weird schedule Though for them they go by week Florida State bye week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's good. Rest the boys up.

[PFT Commenter]

Great for you.

[Greg Olson]

I don't know, man. I always worry like when a team's rolling, having too much like I'm good with a bi week before Florida State. It just makes me nervous that they're going to have to go bye week and then get back rolling against Florida State. All right, fine, we'll web but then they got to go like bi week again and then I think they play like five ACC games in a row to follow that second bye week. So I mean they're awesome. Mario crystal ball. I've known since I was a kid. That's my guy. Love them. Text with them all the time. Like super happy for him. I just hope that we just make it to the college football playoffs. I'm dying to go to a college football playoff game and I've been waiting for Miami to make it.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you will. I bet on the you to win the national championship. I, I, I, I think that they can and oh, I think so too. I might be wrong, but I feel like if there's one coach that's going to be able to handle by week game by we, it's probably Mario Cristobal. Yeah, he's not, he's not going to let them like take a break. He's going to be in their face. He's going to remind them he's the good guy to steward that.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Yeah, they're not going to be resting on their laurels very long.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right, Greg, you're the best. We love having you on. We'll do it again later in the season. Good luck in Ireland and let us know how that Guinness goes.

[Greg Olson]

Can't wait. I'll have a full report back. I'll talk to you guys when I get back.

[Big Cat]

All right, thanks, Greg.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on very, very, very, very special guests. It is the guys from Goose, the band. We got them all here. We got Rick, Peter in studio. We got Trevor and Cotter in the booth. Oh, did you want to say something? You click it.

[Goose Member 1]

Have you guys just getting ready?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Have you guys, have you guys ever done a podcast? All four of you? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. You have?

[PFT Commenter]

I think so.

[Goose Member 1]

You don't do a lot of them, but for sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because I was gonna say the flow. I don't think we've ever interviewed four.

[Memes]

People all at once.

[PFT Commenter]

Four guys at once.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We've never done four guys one time. Hope you guys stretched. So what's up, guys? Good to see you. You're in Chicago. You're on tour. How's the tour going? Let's start with the easy question.

[PFT Commenter]

Good.

[Big Cat]

Answer. Good answer. Like Family Feud.

[PFT Commenter]

How much longer do you guys have on the road?

[Goose Member 1]

Two and a half weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's not bad.

[Goose Member 2]

Not bad, not bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Is there a. A show that has been, like, the standout show, like, music from a musical point of view? Has there been one that's like, we are just now starting to, like, get it together? This sounds awesome. We're at our peak right, right now.

[Goose Member 2]

Like, on this tour.

[PFT Commenter]

On this tour, Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

I feel like there's been, like, one and a half shows in this tour so far.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

Oh, pretty much.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys ever walk out of a show and, like, one of you is like, that was awesome. And then another guy said, what are you talking about? Like, I, I didn't feel it the same way.

[Goose Member 1]

It's happened before. Yeah, man.

[Big Cat]

Do you talk about. Because I, I, I read a story once that Trey, like, they Made a rule at For Fish that they don't talk about the show right after the show.

[Goose Member 2]

They'll.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And they just kind of like, go in their own moment because they don't want to. If someone had a great show and someone didn't, they don't want to ruin that feeling. Do you guys have something similar? Or when you get off the stage, are you like, oh, we thought that was great, or this needs work? Do you analyze it right away?

[Goose Member 2]

There's no rules, you know, around it. I think if, like, the impetus is there to talk about it, then we do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

Or we'll just go and play Super Smash Brothers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, that works too.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How long does it take you guys to, like, come down from a show? I would imagine you don't sleep right away.

[Goose Member 2]

No, it takes a bit.

[Goose Member 1]

A couple hours.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

A couple hours.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What's the. What's the day to day like for you guys on a day where there's a show?

[Goose Member 1]

Well, it's pretty chill, you know, you kind of have. You wake up, hopefully sleep in nicely, get some good sleep, and then just kind of have a few hours of the day. Just do what you want.

[Goose Member 2]

We don't have a Cream team, I'll tell you that.

[Goose Member 1]

Yeah, I wish we had that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, no, you're lactose intolerant. And I was. I apologize to you.

[Goose Member 2]

But then I. Coconut cream team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, absolutely. I was like. I. Peter was like, I can't have ice cream. And then I was like, I'm sorry about what I'm about to say, but I don't believe in anything you say with lactose intolerance.

[PFT Commenter]

Why don't you. Why don't you prove a big cat wrong? You gotta smell it to believe it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

So when you say sleep in, like, how late are we talking about?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Goose Member 1]

If you're lucky, you get to noon.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Noon. Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

Hook up at 12:30 today. There's a lot of. You know, I was up for a while earlier, but, you know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. So you guys have a new album, Chain your Dragon, that was released, what, like, three weeks ago? Awesome album. I guess my question is, how are you guys able to make really good albums as a jam band? Because that does. It's not like, you know, you can't do it, but, you know, the Grateful Dead, they're not known for their albums. Fish isn't known for their albums. You guys are able to make really awesome albums and then also really awesome shows. What. What is that? How are you doing It.

[Goose Member 2]

Well, they.

[Big Cat]

Kind of. Loaded question. Yeah. No, I mean that, like, I. Yeah. I can't tell you how many times I've. I haven't. I don't just put on, like, Working Man's Dead or something. Like, I put on a Grateful Dead show, and for you guys, I do both. Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

I mean, not trying to compare, but, like, I. I think we just generally like making albums.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

Going to the studio, so it's just fun. And, you know, we get to do that process. It's like a. It's kind of a blessing, you know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

Because we have to play a lot of shows, and then it's nice when you actually take the time to work on the songs, and that's. You know, it's like the shows kind of just are always happening, but when we get that time to go to studio, it's really special.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. How long did this album take you guys to make?

[Goose Member 2]

We bang that one out pretty quick, actually. That was kind of part of the intention of it. This is, you know, compared to other projects we've done, it was. It was kind of like, all right, this. This stuff wants to be a band in the room, kind of just banging it out. So for all intents and purposes, knocked it out in, like, March of this year.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wow.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So it is interesting when you guys. When you guys are songwriting and you think about writing something for the studio, do you also think about how that's gonna translate into how you perform it live and the space that you're gonna leave for yourselves to go on, like, the long improvisational runs inside of a song that might not have those in the studio.

[Goose Member 2]

It used to be more of an afterthought, you know, the recording things in that way was kind of like a opportunity to leave that mentality behind and explore different aspects and approaches to things that we can't do live. But oddly enough, now, maybe it's, you know, kind of where we are now. I'm not sure what it is, but I'm finding myself thinking about that a lot more when we go to track something and just, like, it's just more present of thinking about how it's gonna happen live.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's cool. What about you guys in the booth? How do you guys.

[Goose Member 2]

What does booth think about that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Chime in. Booth.

[Goose Member 1]

The booth.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

It's cool to, like, approach the record versions of songs in a way that's cool for the record and the live versions in a way is cool for the live show.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

And, like, not. We don't have to be a jam band in the studio. It could just be a band and maybe do some things differently than we would live.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

And then live where we're ripping the fucking crunchy jams.

[Big Cat]

That might be the answer to it right there. Because it is like. Like I said, it's when you guys release an album, I mean, I've listened to Change youe Dragon, like, start to finish a few times, and I don't. I don't do that for other jam bands. It's no knock on them, but it just. It doesn't translate as well. Studio to live show. Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

And there's been times we've, like, you know, gone to record songs that we've been playing live forever, and we'll go into the studio and kind of revamp them and look at them in a different way. Yeah, that's always cool to do.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys have any songs that when you recorded them, you kind of fell away from them and you're like, yeah, not my favorite. But then as you start to play them live, they almost get a second life. And now you really enjoy performing the songs live that you don't necessarily look back on and say, that's a great studio track.

[Goose Member 1]

I don't think so. I feel like maybe there's some. Some fans that maybe feel that way. But I feel. Yeah, generally, not exactly.

[Goose Member 2]

There's this trend of, like, sometimes we put out a new single or new song or something, and I don't want to play it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Goose Member 2]

Kind of like, you know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

Like playing a new record now. Fuck that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know.

[Greg Olson]

And then.

[Goose Member 2]

And then eventually you come around and. And it's like, all right, let's do that.

[Big Cat]

How. How does the set list come together every night? Do you guys. Are you guys setting up, like, before you go out there, you're like, this is what we want to do tonight. We want to change it up this way. Because that is one of the best parts about a jam band. What you guys do is that every night's different, which probably is a little cumbersome. Just that where you're like, we played that last night. Can't play it tonight. But how do you guys, like, work, figure out what the show's gonna be? Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

Various aspects of the equation.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, how does it start?

[Big Cat]

Do you. Rick, do you like, hey, we're gonna play this tonight.

[Goose Member 2]

Let's just kind of starts with the stats, I would say, you know, on some level, like, doing the.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

Pull up some stats.

[Big Cat]

The password of, like, what you've played. Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

What we played where, when? The last time we played it was stuff like that. Put together a list, and then we kind of go off of that list and, you know, create an order and kind of a, you know, loan from there.

[PFT Commenter]

What stats are you looking at? Like, if you see a song you haven't played in a while, then you're like, we get. We have to play this one tonight.

[Goose Member 2]

It's like regional stuff. Like, you know, well, we played last.

[Goose Member 1]

Time in that city.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's interesting.

[PFT Commenter]

Give them a show that they truly haven't seen before.

[Goose Member 2]

Try to shake it up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then do you, like, stack some shows or there's some nights where you're like, yeah, we're just gonna do this. And we're. And people are gonna go nuts for this. Like, you, like. No, you just know, like, hey, we're gonna play sometimes.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah, we need. Yeah, we need to throw down.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're gonna fight. Like, tonight's gonna be the night. Night.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah, for sure.

[Big Cat]

That's pretty cool.

[Goose Member 2]

But yeah, also, you know, you never know what night's going to be the night in reality because, like, you can. You can stack a set list and go out there and just. It's not happening right on. On like a. On the night when it's really the night. You know, like, you. You could. It could be the worst. It could be all. All your worst shit and.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Goose Member 2]

It's going to. Still going to go hard.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so off that question. I've always wondered this, because what you guys do is very, very hard. And jam bands, like, going out every night, playing a different set list on a given tour. Let's say there's 20. 20 stops on a tour. How many of those 20 are you? Like, holy shit. That was like 10 out of 10. We were in the zone.

[Goose Member 2]

It ranges from tour, for sure. Yeah, it's. You know, I think there's. There's like some tours, you know, thinking about it in, like, the grander thing, you know, perspective is kind of interesting. You know, some tours you're just, like, deep, more in the pocket than others, you know?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. But can you guys feel when you hit the zone, like, on stage, you're like, oh, this is. How quickly into a show are you? Like, yup, this is going to be one of those nights.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah. Sometimes it's right out of the gate. Sometimes you're like, out of the gate. At least personally speaking, I can only speak for myself, but, like, you're, you know, you get in there and it's like, oh, yeah, we're good. Hose is active here. And then, you know, by the end of first set or into the second set, it. It's gone. Like, you know, you lose it, or sometimes it's the other way around. It starts off rough, and you find it. Second set, whatever, you know, it's. There's no. It's. It's all of it.

[Big Cat]

It's got to be an incredible feeling when you do find it. I would imagine. And the. I mean, the crowd, like, being. Going to a bunch of, you know, fish and. And dead concerts in my life, like, when you do feel like they are locked in, it's like there's nothing better. It's. I would imagine that.

[Goose Member 1]

Yeah, you have that when things are clicking. It feels. Definitely feels good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Goose Member 3]

The crowd energy plays a big role, too, especially in the jam band scene.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's like.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

Kind of an intangible thing, but sometimes I feel like the crowd's bringing the energy right off the bat. It kind of fires us up and we're all in it together.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you guys ever compared peing? Like, does your peaking feel different from your peaking?

[Goose Member 2]

And the best is when we all peak at the same time?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you rather. But isn't that the ideal situation? It's like we. We all peaked during the second set that, you know, like, eight songs in. We all shared that moment together. Isn't that nice?

[Goose Member 1]

Yeah, yeah. That's the goal.

[Big Cat]

Sure. Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

It definitely varies a lot. I think everyone's perspective, you know, is so dependent on, like, how much ice cream you had that day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, so talking about the crowds when you guys started out, I would ha, like, imagine, you know, you're playing to smaller crowds. That has to be difficult. Was there a moment along the way where it, like, started clicking and the crowd started, like, knowing the songs or the crowd started being more reactive and you're like, okay, this is actually gonna work.

[Goose Member 1]

This is definitely at the. The King's Rook in Erie, Pennsylvania.

[PFT Commenter]

That's where it all happened.

[Goose Member 2]

We just. Yeah, we played a lot of, like.

[PFT Commenter]

Really bad shows, but.

[Big Cat]

So was there a moment, though, where it, like, kind of flipped. Flipped where. When Whatever year it was like. Oh, yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

There was, like, a moment in 2018 when it was. Yeah, we. We drove out. We had, like, a tour in early 2018, and we. It was out to Colorado and back, basically. And. And on the way to Colorado and on the way back from Colorado, we played in Covington, Kentucky, and we really, like, you know, this is Kind of like the first taste of the fire. We got this kid and this one kid saw we were on the schedule for this club, the Octave in Covington, Kentucky, and checked out our album and dug it and passed it around to his. He had this group of friends, they called themselves Flavortown and they were just rowdy. It's basically Cincinnati, Ohio. They're just rowdy group of friends. They're great people, loved music. Yep. And passed the record around so they learned the songs. We went and played this show at this club and thought it was gonna be shit show. Just like all of you know, the gigs we did at that time and you know, this crew is only maybe 10, 15 of them, but they like knew some of the songs. They were singing along, they were just throwing down, bringing a ton of energy and we're like, oh my God, this is great. And then so we went deck, like two or three weeks later after the Colorado run and you know, I guess word spread or something. And that was kind of like the first. I don't know, a couple hundred people there maybe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

A lot more people came out.

[Big Cat]

And then we.

[Goose Member 1]

We went back like three months later and did a two night run that was just. Just totally packed.

[PFT Commenter]

That's awesome. Shout Out Covington, Kentucky Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

Where the fire started.

[Goose Member 1]

First on board.

[PFT Commenter]

Were you guys in the van? Live in the van life?

[Goose Member 2]

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that. What was the first vehicle that you guys took on tour? Do you remember it?

[Goose Member 1]

Like a 40, 350? Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Van life. I kind of miss van life. We used to have.

[Goose Member 2]

Oh, actually we were just talking about.

[Big Cat]

I have two vans.

[Goose Member 2]

We were like, we miss. We would love to do like van life life again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

A period of time.

[PFT Commenter]

It's fun.

[Big Cat]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

You bond a little bit. You go through the shared like the, the bad experiences actually end up being some of the most fun experiences you have out on the road.

[Goose Member 2]

Come up with a lot of stupid ideas that are great. Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

Just the hours sitting together and like coming up with dumb.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Shared experiences. Yeah. We've. I like, we're not, you know, accomplished music musicians like you guys, but the podcast like we used to travels like just four of us in a shitty van and now we have like an RV and a whole staff that goes with us and it definitely changes it a little bit.

[Goose Member 1]

Definitely.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

Trevor got a CV radio installed in the van at one point.

[Big Cat]

Oh, hell yes.

[Goose Member 1]

And we put out a one hour compilation of CV radio moments that we recorded on the road. Called it Nightshade.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Talking to truckers. And yeah, for sure. Did you learn the lingo?

[Goose Member 2]

What was your, what was your handle?

[Goose Member 1]

It was Nightshade.

[Goose Member 2]

Really requesting a lot of radio checks. It's like Night Shade requesting.

[Goose Member 1]

I think the antenna was kind of up, so we didn't really, you know.

[Goose Member 2]

We got, we got a couple bites.

[Goose Member 1]

That was coming like kind of near Chicago, I think.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We know, we know you.

[Big Cat]

I love us.

[Goose Member 2]

Have some of whatever that guy was having.

[PFT Commenter]

Is there, Is there a. A venue or a city that you guys really want to play at that you haven't played yet?

[Big Cat]

Sphere. I told you guys.

[Goose Member 2]

I don't know, I just like playing outside in like a field, you know?

[Goose Member 1]

Yeah, yeah, we were just at the Gorge in Washington and that was. That's definitely my new favorite venue.

[Big Cat]

You like outdoor concerts more than indoor?

[Goose Member 2]

I like arenas too. I mean, you know, it's good theater. It's. They're all cool. They all have their different challenges and, and you know, aspects of why they're dope. Yeah, I mean, a hockey arena is pretty like a, like a, you know, kind of run down hockey arena.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Big Cat]

That is awesome. What do you guys. This might be a tough question, but jam band fans, there's a lot of gatekeeping. Have you guys. Do you guys consciously think about, like, there's a lot of. Well, Goose isn't fish and Fish isn't dead and like, you know, oh, they want to be fish and like, do you guys do. You did not even pay attention to that. I think it's the lamest thing ever. But it does happen.

[Goose Member 3]

I mean, where it's like the same as like sports fans. Yeah, they get really passionate about their team and they're like, the rest of these teams suck.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Goose Member 3]

But it's like, you know, at the end of the day, they just love the sport.

[Big Cat]

So.

[Goose Member 3]

Yeah, some people are cool about it because they just love music. And some people are like, my team's the best and the other ones suck balls.

[Big Cat]

But it's like. But all the teams are really good. Like, that's the part. Like, I always laughed when like, like a Fish fan would be like, oh, I wouldn't ever listen to the Dead. And it's like, what? Why? Like, Trey loved the Dead. Yeah. You guys, I assume, loved Fish. So it's like all these things link to each other.

[Greg Olson]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's cool that it keeps going and there's like this line that you can chart.

[Goose Member 3]

Yeah, it's silly, but I feel like it's just. It shows how passionate the fans become, especially because there's, like, stats. Like, people have these special moments with jam bands where they're like, I got my song.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

After going on this crazy journey in my van across the country. And so it's become such a personal thing. Like, they. They wear the colors of their favorite band.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

So it's just because they're more passionate than your average music fan, I think.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think if you have people that are like that, it's. It is a sign that the genre as a whole is doing pretty well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If you get that fired up about it.

[Goose Member 1]

Yeah, for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

So what would be. If you're not a fan of that genre in general, what would be the gateway drug for people to get into? Goose. If there's somebody out there that's listening, that hasn't listened to your music yet, just like a.

[Big Cat]

A.

[PFT Commenter]

They're a fan of pop music, what would be that gateway drug for you guys?

[Goose Member 1]

That's a good question.

[Goose Member 2]

That's probably you guys.

[Big Cat]

I was. Because I. So I obviously knew about you guys for a long time, but it didn't. I always think with. With jam bands that, like, you can't force. It either clicks or it doesn't. And, like, so dead clicked for me when I was 13 years old. Fish was a little bit later. And then you guys, like, I. I would listen to some stuff off. I remember the first one I listened to was you guys doing the Way It Is with Bruce Hornsby. Awesome.

[Goose Member 1]

Hell, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Awesome version. And then, like, probably four or five months ago, it finally clicked with you guys. And it was. It was Arcadia with Arcadia Hunger site with Trey. And then it was Hot Tea. And that was like. And I was like, oh, I get it. I get it now. Like, I get how awesome these guys are. So I think that's kind of how it works with jam Bits. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's like you hear one song live, and you're just like, yup, now it all makes sense. And then it just. You just dive into everything.

[Goose Member 2]

I would guess it's different for everyone. You know, it could be like a. You know, different songs for any. Any person. It's just. You never know when those moments hit you. They come to a show and someone walks out and be like, that sucked. You know, nothing spoke to me. I was like, all right. And then, you know, someone. The first half sucks. And then something happens. We play some song, and for whatever reason, that moment, they're just like, oh. And then. Then, you know, you get a bug and moment.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

And then you get curious and dig deeper and are more open in that. In that. At that point, you know.

[Big Cat]

Do you guys have that song For Fish or Dead that. It was like, oh, that's it.

[Goose Member 3]

I feel like I. When I first started listening to Fish, when I was, like, 14, I was like, this sucks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

And then I. My buddy brought me to a show, and I was like, holy.

[Greg Olson]

This experience.

[Goose Member 3]

It was at Fenway, my first fish show, and I had been there to see the socks a bunch as a kid. And going there and seeing that scene, I was like, this is a wild time. All these people are crazy, selling drugs and sandwiches and stuff, and it's flawless.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like, the.

[Goose Member 3]

I don't know, like, the adventure and the, like, freak scene of it all just really appealed to me. And then I immediately started liking their songs more just because I had a blast at the show.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Do you guys have one that you like? It was like, oh, yeah, that. That clicks now.

[Goose Member 2]

It wasn't. It wasn't one thing. It was like, friends, older brothers that were talking about it, and it was like, okay, check that out. And I got a live one and spun that on repeat and kind of, you know, I feel like things that have been the most impactful, musically speaking for me, are things that need to, like, decode over time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

Like that. It took a minute for that to seep in, but it wasn't. Like, I didn't dislike it out of the gate, but it was kind of like, whoa, this is a whole new world. There's a lot going on here. And it took a minute. And there are definitely moments when there were, like, these. These clicking moments of, like, understanding the scope of. Of what was going on there in various ways. But it was also DVDs. Like, I got. I got, you know, a bunch of DVDs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

At that time.

[Big Cat]

Bittersweet Motel, for sure.

[Goose Member 2]

And then, like, the It Festival, I was there. I. I admittedly, like, I just love that era. Yeah, I know. It's like a little getting close to the rails, but I. I love the way they were playing.

[Big Cat]

It is like, the jam bands are a little intimidating to, like, get into, and the beginning, just because it's so deep and there's so many shows and we in, like, it's almost like trying to figure out a way to get into, like, Inside Joke. And you're just like, how do I figure this all out?

[Goose Member 1]

Like a new language.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right?

[PFT Commenter]

You, like, need a guide, right? A shaman that takes you along the way.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Goose Member 2]

I mean, that's like, such a valid thing. I mean, talk about the Dead. That I think, like, going over a friend's house and pulling some bongs and then him being like this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

Playing it and be like, oh, you know, and having those moments that. That's the stuff that speaks to you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The beauty of it, when I, like, whenever anyone asks me, like, what's your favorite Dead song? I'm like, dude, it literally, like, changes every month because I'll hear a song from a show from 40 years ago and be like, whoa. Okay. I didn't. Like, I didn't hear them ever do it this way. And now, like, I'll listen to that. And so that's the cool part where it's like, I don't even know what my favorite song is week to week, because it changes, because it's like an ocean that you can just keep exploring.

[Goose Member 1]

So very much so.

[Big Cat]

Cool. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When you guys. When you guys play a show, how quickly do you try to get that show mixed and put up so that people can listen to it at home?

[Goose Member 1]

Almost like 30 minutes after that?

[Big Cat]

Fast, ideally.

[PFT Commenter]

So you. You. You finish playing the show, and then who mixes it afterwards?

[Goose Member 1]

Well, it's. It's being mixed while we play.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Goose Member 1]

So we've got, like, a live stream going on for pretty much every show we do, and that's going on Nug Net. And it's like, you can watch the video, and then somebody's mixing the audio in real time. And then right after the show, it's just, like, cut up the audio and. And, like, upload it. Yeah, that's kind of the flow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty cool for your fans. I. When did you guys start doing that as opposed to, like, recording and then putting them up later?

[Goose Member 1]

It took some time.

[Goose Member 2]

In 2018, we were kind of more selective about it because no one knew who we were or gave a shit about what we were doing. So we were kind of, like, trying to just. Just, you know, put out a bunch of stuff and build and build a catalog on the Internet and build, like, a presence and kind of our own little world there. But we were definitely more selective about it in the beginning, and then at a certain point, it just became everything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

Once we had, like, you know, consistent recordings, I think that was kind of like, a big turning point.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

For 2018, we were mostly just like, oh, do you guys have this type of mixboard we can record on? Okay, great. We will otherwise do that. You know.

[Goose Member 2]

When did we start rolling with our own.

[Goose Member 1]

It was, like, 2019. Right.

[Goose Member 2]

Beginning of the year January. We like, yeah, we built, we built our own rack system where we were running our own monitors and be able to record, you know, everything at that point consistently. That was, that was a huge turning point for us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys have a moment where it became a thing that you knew that you could be successful at, like, make a living at? This is my career. I'm going to be in this band and we're going to do well.

[Goose Member 2]

And you kind of like, when you're going for it, you have to be naive enough to, you know, think that it could work, that it can happen, you know, but in retrospect, you don't realize how naive you are going for it. You know, just being like, yeah, this is obviously, this is what we're doing, you know. Yeah, we're gonna go for it. And then, and then, you know, like the long, you know, you go. And we were fortunate enough for it to work and to, you know, really so grateful for everything that, I mean, it's unreal, honestly, but yeah, just like looking back is like, wow. We didn't, we had no idea.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

We were getting ourselves into or like, what. How, how much work it really would take, you know, I think, you know, it was like early 20s. I was like, yeah, get a band together, play like a couple festival sets, we'll be good. Like, that's it. It's over. You know, it's like, no, no.

[Goose Member 1]

Many, many years of grinding.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

I told you, like 50, 15 years later.

[Big Cat]

Like, all right.

[PFT Commenter]

People talk about a big break, but there's not. There's usually not a big break. There's usually like a slow, steady build.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That you're committed to and then doing it the hard way. That's how you make sure that you have a long career. If there is a band that has. Or artist that has a big break, it's like very easy for that person to fall off.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because they don't have that groundwork that they've already built up to.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And you got jam bands by nature. Like, you're not going to have a, a one hit wonder the played on, you know, the radio. So it's going to be a slower grind. Have you guys thought about, like, how far away you are from taking like a five year hiatus and then coming back and being ever.

[Goose Member 1]

Probably pretty far.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay, good, good. Because everyone's got to do it, right? Like you guys got to break up for a few years and you come back and everyone's like, holy, they're better than ever. They Found their love for it again. All right, so we're far away from that moment. Yeah, definitely. Okay, good. Good.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah, think so.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right. Pretty sure it's going to happen. One of you, whoever. Whoever wants to come on the podcast, how that happens to tell your side of why you broke up.

[Goose Member 1]

Oh, God.

[PFT Commenter]

You want to be the first behind the music.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

But then again, remember, you're going to come back better than ever. Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

The comeback.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, Fish is like that. They took a. A long time off, where everyone's like, is this over forever? And then now they're better than ever. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's have the conversation.

[Big Cat]

What's your favorite?

[Memes]

No, no, let's stop.

[Big Cat]

No, they are awesome. Yeah, they're amazing.

[Goose Member 3]

I've seen them a ton.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Nothing will ever beat that Fenway show, though.

[Big Cat]

I mean, the Family show is one.

[Goose Member 3]

Of my first shows back for 3.0 in 09, so I've only seen the. The latest rendition of Fish. You know, I. I didn't see them in the 90s.

[Big Cat]

Do you think they were better in the 90s?

[Goose Member 3]

I love the 90s.

[Big Cat]

Late 90s.

[Goose Member 3]

A little more, you know, visceral.

[Greg Olson]

Crazy.

[Goose Member 3]

They're more put together now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

Someone said they're, like, more like storytellers now, and they're less like. They don't have that, like, aggressive, youthful energy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

But it's all great.

[Big Cat]

What was it like when you guys had Trey play with you? Like, that was. I mean, that's. He's done it a couple times. Right. But the. The 20. Was it 2022 in New York?

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

Yeah. The tour and, I mean, Radio City especially.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

Really special. And that just kind of came out of nowhere.

[Big Cat]

And, like, that had to have been. I mean, it's not like he's knighting you guys, but that does feel like a big moment for the band, I would assume, like, wild.

[Greg Olson]

Definitely.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah. He's such, like, a kind, gracious, humble guy that when you hang out with him and you don't. It's. It's easy to forget how surreal that is. And then there's moments, you're like, wait, this is. How is this happening?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How did that come together?

[Goose Member 2]

I mean, I don't even know the Radio City thing.

[Big Cat]

I.

[Goose Member 1]

Yeah, I honestly can't remember. Like, I feel like he reached out.

[Big Cat]

Do you remember? Yeah. I mean. Yeah, we talked about it. We talked about a time with management. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Trying to make something happen.

[Big Cat]

He. We knew he was a fan and listening to music and watching the streams yeah, it wasn't like, planned months in advance. It was kind of like, spur the moment. Yeah, he's gonna be. Yeah, yeah, do it. None of that was on a microphone, but it was a cool story. No, basically, the answer was that it was he. You guys knew he was a fan, and it was kind of spur the moment, like, yeah, here we go.

[Goose Member 2]

He's local and.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you know he was going to stick around on that tour?

[Goose Member 1]

Oh, we eventually planned the tour.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

For, for later that year.

[PFT Commenter]

He's just like, you mind if I just keep sitting in?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

Oh, that night. Yeah, that night. It was, it was kind of like we had planned, talked about two songs or something, and, like. You wanted to stay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You wanted to stay.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah, sure. I was like, all right, great. Yeah, he's gonna stay. Awesome. Oh, it was amazing.

[Big Cat]

That's incredible.

[Goose Member 2]

And then, yeah, the tour was. I mean, I think his. They did a tour with Santana earlier, early in their career, and, you know, Santana kind of took them. Took him under his wing and took them under his wing, and that was a, that was a really special experience for him, I think. And he, I think he wanted to pay that forward, which is, you know, says a lot about who he is.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

And you know, also revisiting a lot of old, like, rundown hockey arenas, which was really sick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that'd be a lot of fun for him.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Was it a little intimidating? You're like, we're playing with Trey.

[Goose Member 2]

Just a little.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They make you better known that, like, hey, Trey's here. I gotta, I gotta bring it. Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

I mean, it's. I, I, it's like that. One of those things I try not to, in the moment, try not to think about it too much, because then they'll just get deeper down the, like, you know, imposter syndrome of it all.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, whatever.

[Goose Member 2]

But it's, it's just like, you just gotta, you just gotta go show up and, you know, do it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Did you ever catch yourself, like, asking Trey, like, was that good? Like, did you like that? Because I definitely would if I were. There she is.

[Greg Olson]

Did you?

[Big Cat]

Hey, did you like that? That was, that, was that good? Papa, please tell me. Yeah, that was good. That was good.

[Goose Member 2]

He imparted a lot of. A lot. He had a lot of cool things to. To impart on us throughout that tour, for sure.

[Big Cat]

What. So what live show would you tell people to listen to if they were trying to go? I'm sure you guys all have different answers, but let's give the audience a live show they can pull up. Because that. That is also fun. Like, part of. Of, like, being a fan of a jam band is like, everyone has their favorite show. Everyone has their favorite moment. So what would you guys say your personal is so that you can tell people to go listen to it of ours?

[Goose Member 1]

Yeah, I mean, I would tell people to go watch the video on YouTube of our show at MSG.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Goose Member 1]

That we just played.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, June. Okay. All right.

[Goose Member 2]

That checks out.

[Goose Member 1]

I agree with that.

[Goose Member 2]

I don't.

[Big Cat]

You guys can't all answer that. We got to give four different answers. I.

[Goose Member 3]

The one that always sticks out to me is Philly last year, the man.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Goose Member 3]

I mean, that was my first tour with the band and that I had seen Fish at that venue. I think it was the first venue we played where I'd seen Fish there. And I feel like. Like, first set, I was just a little nervous. Second set, we came out and we were ripping. I think we played two songs in the second set. And I like the little jams.

[Goose Member 1]

There's like three.

[PFT Commenter]

What's the longest song you guys ever played?

[Big Cat]

Played?

[Goose Member 1]

I think it's like.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like 40 something.

[Goose Member 1]

40 something minutes.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a. That's a really long song.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right, so, yeah, that was 6, 28, 2024. You can go find it.

[Goose Member 1]

Yeah, that's good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. 6 28. And then.

[Goose Member 1]

And 6 28, 20, 25.

[Goose Member 2]

Wow.

[Goose Member 1]

Oh, interesting. The garden.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, so something about that date.

[Big Cat]

Something about that date.

[Greg Olson]

Grab your table.

[Goose Member 1]

It's for next year.

[Goose Member 2]

628.

[Big Cat]

628. When you guys. When you guys get off the road, how, like, how in touch with each other are you? Like, are you guys living close to each other? Do you take some time off? Because I. That's always an interesting part of the band. Like, you. You're together, so intense. Yeah. And then when you decompress, are you guys hanging out or are you just like, we gotta. We need a break.

[Goose Member 2]

We're not super local. Peter's in Brooklyn. Trev and I are in Connecticut. Collars in Burlington.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Goose Member 2]

So. But I mean, we're. We're together a lot. We're doing stuff a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

I think, you know, there's. There's not a lot of downtime.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When it comes to. To a song that you guys start to cover, who. Who typically brings that to the table? Like, hey, I think we should do this song. Is it anybody?

[Goose Member 1]

I feel like it's usually Rick.

[Goose Member 2]

That's what can be anyone.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

But it could Be anybody.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So has there been a song that's been suggested where it's like, hey, we should. We should try to work on this one. And you guys, I have no idea what we're gonna do with that song. And it really came together and it's like one that you're very proud of. Now.

[Goose Member 2]

There's, there's a lot of. I mean, usually when you do a cover, it's because you like it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right.

[Goose Member 2]

For. For one reason or another. There's like, there's different ways into things. I think we find there's different kind of categories or veins, you could say of covers we do. But a lot of it's just kind of, you know, random. Like we, we ended the show. We've done it before. The what's up four Non Blondes. Yeah, we ended the show with it last night with the Mount Joy guys. And you know, the day prior, like, we, like I said we'd done it before, but the day prior we were walking through the airport and it was on. In the airport and it was like, oh, yeah, that could, that would, that'd be a nice way to.

[PFT Commenter]

It might be the best sing along song ever too.

[Goose Member 2]

It's. Yeah, it's like stuff like that, you know, it was like a, like a club once and you know, Kylie Minogue came on, it was like, la la. I was like, like, oh my God, this song is hot.

[PFT Commenter]

It sounds a little like heard it through the grapevine a little bit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Can't get you out of my.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

You know, so. Yeah, you know, moments like the same kind of thing I was talking about before with the, with the like, listen, you know, being shown dead songs with your buddy or whatever, it's. It's personal experience and having like your own emotional connection to certain things and then finding a way into it and a way that you can make it your own and. And put your own voice on it, you know?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When you're listening to new music, do you find yourself listening to bands that are similar to you or do you find yourself branching out and exploring something else?

[Goose Member 2]

I mean, it's different for all of us. Yeah, I'd assume. You know, I've listened to for a long time. I've been into just like modern, a lot more modern music for when I was younger, I'd listen to a lot of older stuff, you know, old jazz and obviously the Fish and Dead thing was huge and like a lot of old jazz and Otis Redding and Nina Simone and Wes Montgomery, just a ton of different older things and Then at a certain point, started listening to it. Started with Fleet Foxes. But I just kind of realizing there's this really transportive, modern songwriting production stuff going on that I got kind of taken with. And I've just been super into that.

[PFT Commenter]

What about the guys in the booth?

[Goose Member 1]

You know, I kind of grew up listening to metal, which is kind of a different, you know, vein and all this. But, yeah, try to listen to, like, all sorts of stuff, like metal, electronic music. I've been really digging this, man. Men I trust. Currently, they're super dope. But, yeah, in terms of, like, stuff that's similar to us, for sure. And then, you know, stuff all over the map as well.

[Goose Member 3]

I was a big Zappa guy and still am.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

And, you know, I think that kind of fueled my love for. For Fish too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But checks out.

[Goose Member 3]

You know, now I'm. I'm way more open. Like, as I've gotten over older, I've become less of a snob.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

And more just trying to find good music. Less judgmental.

[Goose Member 2]

Usually goes the other way around.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Goose Member 3]

Like, I feel like I found these, like, things where I feel like I earned being a fan.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

Like, I had to, like, like, put the time in to, like, really understand what was going on because it's insane. And now I just, like. I'm down with whatever. And I think it's dumb to judge music.

[Big Cat]

Agree.

[Goose Member 3]

Other than whether you think it's good or bad. And that's your opinion on it and whatever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 3]

But, like, there's a lot of great music in all kinds of genres. I mean, I'm, like, obsessed with Julian Lodge lately, who's, like, a modern jazz guy, which is pretty rare, you know, He's a young, like, really expressive jazz player. And this dude, Blake Mills, I've been all about lately. But, yeah, pretty much whatever. I'm always looking for suggestions.

[Big Cat]

I like that. What about you, Peter?

[Goose Member 1]

I'm having a pretty good fall because, like, a couple of my favorite bands are just doing albums right now. So Parcels just put out an album, which is great. Love them. Tame Impala's got a new album coming out, so singles have been great. Heim put out a new album that was like, this past summer. I love them. So, yeah, like, Mac DeMarco put out a new album. So, like, a lot of my favorite artists are kind of just, like, putting out music right now, which is great.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you guys feel like this genre of music is AI proof?

[Big Cat]

Good question.

[Goose Member 3]

No one who knows where that's, you.

[Greg Olson]

Know.

[Goose Member 2]

The Scope of where that's headed is I don't know if anyone's really very unknown.

[PFT Commenter]

It's crazy. I. I've been in the like for you playlist that Spotify puts out. They've been giving me some bands that I. I've confirmed are AI and 100 like built for my algorithm.

[Goose Member 1]

Whoa, that's wild.

[PFT Commenter]

And I liked some of the songs and it's scary because it's like, oh, they know exactly how to hit those parts of your brain. But I do feel like with, you know, the longer, more jam oriented stuff.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The more complicated stuff, it's going to be harder for a robot to synthesize that. But maybe that's just for.

[Goose Member 2]

I mean, I bet robot. A robot can definitely lay down some.

[Goose Member 3]

But a robot, an AI can never play a sick live show.

[Big Cat]

I hope you're daring.

[PFT Commenter]

Take that back.

[Goose Member 3]

This is not a challenge.

[Big Cat]

We're AI proof because we just get so many things wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We'd never be able to get the amount of things wrong that we get wrong. Yeah. Yes.

[Goose Member 3]

We should make more mistakes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right.

[Goose Member 3]

You gotta.

[PFT Commenter]

Your best, your worst shows are actually. Yeah. It's proof that you're human.

[Goose Member 2]

Exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

So you should actually love the bad shows for sure.

[Goose Member 1]

Be like, oh, thank God we up that one.

[Goose Member 3]

It's real, man.

[Big Cat]

Robots can't get us. All right, I got. This has been awesome, guys. I got one last question. Roback question. R, b a c k.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code. Take tires. You were in it. Yeah. That was pretty cool.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What. How did that happen? Because we are. We're friends with Shane. We're also like Francis who works with us. Feidelberg who works with us. They were in it as well. It seems like the funnest. Like Shane just gets all his friends.

[Greg Olson]

To just be in it.

[Big Cat]

So how did that happen?

[Goose Member 2]

It was. There was. You get the. Get off. Get a little off mic with this. There's. There's a friend of ours who is, you know, big, big dead fan and got into us from. We were going down to doing the Mexico thing and became close with him and he works in the industry and kind of connected me with some people and kind of came in that way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. More acting in the future maybe.

[Goose Member 2]

Yeah, we'll see. Kind of want to make some records right now, but.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Goose Member 2]

But yeah, I'm down. I had such a blast. Those guys are. Those guys are amazing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

So funny.

[Big Cat]

Very funny. All right, well, thank you boys for coming by. This has been awesome. We. Thanks for having us all very pumped.

[Goose Member 1]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

And I did invite you guys to if you wanted to watch NFL Sunday with us, but I didn't really get any response from that. But you guys are.

[Goose Member 2]

Well, I was pretty deep in the ice cream at the time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You're welcome to come back here in.

[PFT Commenter]

Toronto for a few days.

[Big Cat]

You're welcome to come back.

[Goose Member 2]

Appreciate it.

[Big Cat]

We do the gauntlet too, on Monday, if you wanted to. And more ice cream.

[Goose Member 1]

Hell yeah.

[Big Cat]

Peter, if you come back, I'll get you some of the. Whatever. No, what do you do? What do you. You just don't eat ice cream? It.

[Goose Member 1]

No, man. Some of the best ice cream is dairy free.

[Big Cat]

That's so not true. You might be the first, like, you.

[Goose Member 1]

Don'T even know, dude.

[Big Cat]

You might be the first, you don't know rock star that I wouldn't want to trade lives with. No, thank you.

[Goose Member 1]

Oh, man, you're missing out. I'm telling you right now.

[Goose Member 2]

I. I'll say, though, actually, he has. He used to make, like. We lived together a few years ago, and he used to make dessert salad. He had this massive bowl. I think we even gave him this bowl for his birthdays.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 1]

Giant bowl.

[Goose Member 2]

And he would just fill with like, a pint of, like, Ben and Jerry's non dairy and then just put a bunch of on top of it.

[Goose Member 1]

I know how to dessert.

[Big Cat]

Man.

[PFT Commenter]

You have it easy for a lactose intolerant guy. Like, imagine being lactose intolerant in the 70s.

[Big Cat]

Sure.

[Goose Member 1]

Nothing. I mean, even when I became lactose intolerant, there was like, there was Arctic Zero and that was it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Goose Member 2]

Tasted like all kinds of stuff.

[Big Cat]

Wait, you became lactose intolerant?

[Goose Member 1]

Yeah, when I was 18.

[Big Cat]

That proves that it's not real. Yeah. You don't just choose to not like ice cream anymore.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you decide you just don't like taking a. Yeah, that's what it is. Like, we all do it.

[Big Cat]

It doesn't feel good.

[PFT Commenter]

After you guys, like, do you think.

[Big Cat]

Like, when I eat five ice cream cones on a Sunday, yes, I have diarrhea. Does that make me lactose intolerant? Not at all. No. That makes me a fat who can't stop himself from eating ice cream.

[Goose Member 2]

Human.

[Big Cat]

Hell yeah. All right. Thanks, boys. Thanks, man.

[Goose Member 1]

Thanks for having us.

[PFT Commenter]

Thanks.

[Goose Member 1]

Appreciate it.

[Big Cat]

Okay, before we get to pardon your take, I wanted to talk to you about my favorite treat out there. It's Reese's with This perfect combination of chocolate and peanut butter. There's really nothing like a Reese's Peanut Butter cup. You can find Reese's Peanut Butter Cups basically anywhere. And look at this. What do I got here? Oh, man. The caramel big cup. So not only is it a dynamic duo with chocolate and peanut butter, it's a dynamic duo with. With chocolate, peanut butter, and caramel. The Reese's Caramel Cup. The big cup. I absolutely love these. Reese's are my favorite little treat out there. I probably eat one of these two of these a day, and I got. And guess what? I'm living a very happy life because I love Reese's. So shop Reese's Peanut Butter Cups now at a store near you find wherever candy is sold. Okay, boys, let's wrap up the show. Great show. Pardon your take. Do you think. How many people do you think were listening and they were. They're going to correct us on the Russell Wilson thing, and then they're going to get to the breaking moose.

[Memes]

Good amount?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, fair amount.

[Big Cat]

Listen, we're. You got to stay. You got to stay loose. You got to stay. We're always moving. We're always flexible. We're always. We're like water.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you think? What do you think Rusty's going to do now? Are they going to make him, like, third string, or are they going to make him back up?

[Big Cat]

I think they got to make him third string because you're basically saying he stinks.

[PFT Commenter]

They said backup. Okay, back up. So this is just Jameis Winston erasure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, this is. And I said you got to make up third string, mostly because I'm biased and I want James.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, this is. This is, though, still.

[Big Cat]

All right, pardon your takes.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna hammer Scatterboat this weekend.

[Memes]

If your groom's been whispered to you on the altar at your wedding that the Mavs traded Luca, how would you react, parentheses, hypothetically, if you were a Maps fan?

[Big Cat]

That would be tough.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'd need a second to collect myself.

[Big Cat]

That's a. That's a bad groomsman. I think you got to save that for after the vows are said. You can't drop a bomb in his ear right before.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Although if you wait until afterwards, then you kind of ruin the whole vibe of how excited he already is. If you're the groom, what you got to do is you have let the emotions flow, but then tell everybody it's because you're so emotional about getting married, and that's why you're crying.

[Big Cat]

Max, are we gonna be groomsmen for You.

[Greg Olson]

You guys aren't gonna.

[PFT Commenter]

Aren't gonna come to my wedding.

[Big Cat]

I know. Yeah, we are.

[Greg Olson]

You're not gonna come.

[Big Cat]

Wait, that would be sick if the. If we were just. The five of us were the groomsmen. Yeah. Brothers just don't get it.

[PFT Commenter]

When the preacher says, speak now or forever hold your peace. I'm gonna be like A.J. brown and Jalen Hurts. Okay?

[Big Cat]

I. I've been a groomsman in a bunch of weddings. My. My favorite thing to do right before you go out is just be like, dude, say the word, we'll get the fuck out of here right now. Like, we. Like, I won't judge you. We'll get in a car, we'll get the fuck out of here. We can just. We can just pretend none of this happened. Does anyone taking you up on it? No. But it does lighten the mood. Yeah. Yeah, it's good. Haha. No, I actually want to go through with this. It would. I don't know what I would do if someone took me up on it. I feel like. Wait. I was just kidding, man. Man, we got to do this. What are you talking about? We can't leave.

[Greg Olson]

So.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you can call my bluff.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, I think you got to keep that. You got to keep that to yourself.

[Big Cat]

I'm. I'm offended that you don't think we're gonna. I mean, is it gonna be a football weekend?

[PFT Commenter]

Nope.

[Big Cat]

We'll be there.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta keep it to yourself. If Luca is, like, in the moment.

[Big Cat]

Make a groomsman.

[Greg Olson]

It's travel, though.

[Big Cat]

I thought your wedding was gonna be in the office.

[PFT Commenter]

Office.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, it's gonna be. We'll. We'll have a conversation because it's kind of like an all or nothing thing. We can't. Some of us can't skip. We could skip. You want to skip?

[Memes]

Depends where it is.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a. I'm leaning towards.

[Greg Olson]

I'm leaning towards the Caribbean. The Caribbean.

[Memes]

I'm in.

[Big Cat]

All right, now we have to go.

[PFT Commenter]

You would love to take some Joel and bead news to Max at the altar, wouldn't you?

[Big Cat]

You? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Memes]

Hey, guys, what is the biggest what if in sports that would have changed the entire landscape of what we know today? For me, it's the Bledo injury without Brady. Pton dominates and becomes the goat. He becomes part owner of the Raiders and broadcast for Fox. He sits in the booth with the headset, and Hank thinks it's weird.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, he would become Tom Brady?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Peyton still would have been Peyton.

[Memes]

He's saying he would have Been the goat.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought. I thought you said that Drew Bledsoe would have done all the things that Tom Brady did.

[Memes]

No, I just said without Brady, Peyton dominates.

[Big Cat]

Dominates. So he was the beginning of the question.

[Memes]

What's the biggest what if in sports?

[PFT Commenter]

We can. We can go the injury route.

[Big Cat]

What if.

[Memes]

What if LeBron never took the Ray Allen three?

[Big Cat]

Derrick Rose injury.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. RG3 injury.

[Memes]

Kendrick Perkins injury.

[Big Cat]

Belichick, Jets. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What if the Browns had kept Belichick and. And Saban.

[Big Cat]

Kept saving?

[PFT Commenter]

Now, if the Browns had kept. Oh, Browns, Belichick. And they would have been coached.

[Memes]

The Ravens.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they would have been the Ravens.

[PFT Commenter]

At the same time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Good. What ifs.

[PFT Commenter]

Carson Wentz never got hurt.

[Memes]

Well, speaking of Carson Wentz, good segue. My name is Michael, and here's my take. Carson Wentz is at the top of Mount Rushmore of edging. As a Colts fan. He edged me for an entire season, and he's done it to multiple fan bases. Is Carson Wentz the geoat greatest edger of all time? Did you feel edged?

[PFT Commenter]

I never felt edged. I never felt edged. Not once. I never even came close to being edged.

[Big Cat]

You believed in him for a little bit. I'm gonna.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna have to do some digging.

[Greg Olson]

You definitely got it.

[PFT Commenter]

I think there's enough evidence out. When. When Schefter teased. Schefter edged me with the Carson Wentz news, and he teased me with. Oh, the commanders might sign Carson Wentz. And I was angry at him for that. So I was never. And then when we actually got him, then I flipped out because I didn't want him. And then, of course, like every sports fan, you have to. You have to lie to yourself and convince yourself of something. Get worked up about it, because, hey, what if Carson Wentz makes me come and never even got close?

[Big Cat]

Never got close.

[PFT Commenter]

I faked it. I faked being edged by him.

[Big Cat]

He is. He is an edger, though. But I don't know. I don't know if he still has it. The edge. Like, look, I guess you'd have to ask Vikings. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a big shotgun guy, right? He shoots a lot of skeet. He might be an edger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

All right, last one. What's up, fellas? Big fan. To solve disputes about controversial calls, every ref in the major sports wears helmet slash hack hams in the event of a close, controversial call. The first replay of the show is full speed, officials point of view. That way we can at least see what they saw to make a call or a non call.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like the axon body cams.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't know if this changes anything because don't we have better views?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we have better views. And none of the ump cams really work. They're all jiggly. And when they show a baseball, when they show a POV review, it, it makes me more confused about what happened in the first place. It actually does a good job of being ref propaganda.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, that's what the question is. Oh. Just to make refs feel better so you don't. Don't get mad at the ref. Oh, no, that. No, no, I want to get mad at the refs.

[PFT Commenter]

There you go.

[Big Cat]

You got to get mad at the ref.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What's the whole point of refs is to get mad, right? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

In umpires like Greg Olson.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. Like I said, we're gonna do Ryder cup preview with Shane Bacon on Friday with our picks and preview for a huge football weekend. We're gonna do the lottery ball machine brought to you by Jack Pocket. Today's lottery ball segment is brought to you by Jack Pocket, the number one app for ordering lottery tickets on your phone. We're numbers people on the show. Nice. Pft, stats, scores, spreads. Right now, the only numbers that matter me mega millions and power are getting bigger every week. With Jack Pocket, you can pick your lucky numbers or use quick Pick. Even better, new Jackpocket customers will get $5 in lottery credits when you opt in and use code PMT2 at signup. Don't miss your chance to win millions today.

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Good call. Good call on that.

[Goose Member 2]

Really good call.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a nice slide.

[Big Cat]

Really? I'll take number one. For America's number one lottery app, Jackpocket. 72, 22, 25, 99.

[PFT Commenter]

Put 699 days for memes. This would be 700 for memes. Oh, 76.

[Big Cat]

25. Did you get it?

[Greg Olson]

Did you say 25?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. He did it. Again, this guy can't be stopped. Me.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sorry, Zach. I talked over you when you're doing it because I. I wanted to highlight the fact that it's been now officially 700 days.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

And, Zach, you got it twice.

[Big Cat]

Oh, let's get a Memes lottery ball clock for the wall that counts up. Yeah. Yeah. Days since he's got. Days since he's never. He's never got.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Memes.

[Greg Olson]

Or we could do a countdown until Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Until he gets to hang.

[Big Cat]

Okay, that works, too. Memes. How you. I guess that would. That would double as a. As a death clock for memes. Yeah, kind of solves both.

[PFT Commenter]

Or a death for Hank.

[Big Cat]

Talk us through this, because after Zach got the first one, he would kill you. You were fine. This one's gotta hurt. No, he's really good at it. No, he's gotta hurt.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just really easy.

[Big Cat]

I mean, it's. Zach, how do you do it? I just usually go with the numbers.

[PFT Commenter]

That are on the.

[Big Cat]

The graphic on the jackpocket machine. Oh.

[Greg Olson]

There'S 25 right there.

[Big Cat]

The wrong one. I did that same thing today. I did one. Oh, man, Zach, you're so good at this. Dude, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Crazy. So you've got it twice.

[Big Cat]

Twice, Zach. No, every ball has its day. No, but Zach got it twice in one. That's not true, Zach. That's not true. Yeah, that is just not true.

[PFT Commenter]

Zero for memes.

[Big Cat]

Incredible job. Oh, I did get it that one time.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you didn't. No, you didn't.

[Big Cat]

I did. No, you. No, no. You've never gotten it. I did guess it right that one time.

[PFT Commenter]

I would give you my. My lottery ball win if I could.

[Big Cat]

I guessed it right.

[PFT Commenter]

We still.

[Big Cat]

You still need to acknowledge that I guessed it right.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I got it How I got the numbers. It says right there, I said two.

[Big Cat]

And two popped up, so I guess it. I did not win it, but I.

[PFT Commenter]

Did guess it says I have eight wins. And it says right here that Memes has zero wins.

[Big Cat]

I did not win it. But I guessed it right.

[PFT Commenter]

You never gotten it.

[Big Cat]

Damn, dude. Zach memes. That is tough.

[PFT Commenter]

What a legend.

[Big Cat]

Memes. I mean, how. How do you live with yourself? Memes. What? How do you live with yourself? My day is. My day is fine.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's not your day.

[Big Cat]

No, it's not. No, it's not. It's not fine. Zach, great job. Maybe. Can you. I'm going to tell you something I need you to do for me. Maybe pull Memes aside and give him some tips and tell them how to do this. Can you do that for me?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, sir.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right, Pug. Maybe get that for PMTV. Maybe put a PowerPoint together for memes on how to get the lottery ball. Correct. That'd be a great PM tv. I think everyone would enjoy watching that, right?

[PFT Commenter]

I would.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right. So there we go.

[PFT Commenter]

So get Zach. Guess it two times on his own.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. PFC got it once on his own here in this one. In this room. You have.

[PFT Commenter]

I've gotten the lottery ball twice.

[Big Cat]

You. You needed another man to get the.

[PFT Commenter]

Lottery ball for you.

[Big Cat]

This is really sad. This is really sad. You're lashing out. You're lashing out. It's really sad. Cuck. Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Sad memes or Zach?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, please. PowerPoint. I actually like to attend as well. Just kind of breaking down how you get it right so often. I think it'll be fun. Group project. Yeah. Perfect. Perfect. All right. Not a group project. Love you guys. It.