Nick Foles In Studio, Week 15 Picks And Preview With Bonus Hank Conspiracy Corner, TNF Clunker + Fyre Fest of The Week

Summary

Pardon My Take: Nick Foles In Studio, Week 15 Picks And Preview With Bonus Hank Conspiracy Corner, TNF Clunker + Fyre Fest of The Week Release Date: December 13, 2024

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Introduction

In this dynamic episode of Pardon My Take, hosts Big Cat and PFT Commenter delve deep into Week 15 NFL game analyses, offer their picks and previews, and engage in their signature humorous banter. The episode is further highlighted by an insightful interview with Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles, providing listeners with an exclusive look into his championship journey and perspectives on the game.

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Week 15 Picks and Previews

Discussion Highlights:

• Rams vs. Bills: The hosts express apprehension over the Rams' playoff chances with their current 8-6 record. Big Cat humorously remarks, "If you're on a team that's got weapons, I guess Malik Neighbors pretty good."

  Big Cat [05:35]: "Yeah, that was bad. It was bad."

• Brock Purdy's Performance and Contract: A significant portion of the discussion centers around Brock Purdy's potential contract extension and his impact as a quarterback. PFT Commenter critiques Purdy's performance, stating, "I think he is still a very good quarterback."

  PFT Commenter [05:50]: "Give me a number how much I would pay him."

• Game Previews:

  • Bengals vs. Titans: Hosts analyze the Titans' struggles and the Bengals' playoff aspirations.

  • Commanders vs. Saints: A confident take on the Commanders' must-win scenario against the Saints, emphasizing the importance of key matchups.

    PFT Commenter [32:45]: "I think there's no thing is like, I think you guys are going to win this game."

  • Cowboys vs. Panthers: Discussion on the Panthers' improvement and the Cowboys' defensive challenges.

    Big Cat [40:18]: "They should have just let Dillon play defensive line."

• Additional Insights: The conversation touches on team dynamics, coaching decisions, and the ever-present playoff implications as the season advances.

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Nick Foles Interview

In-Depth Conversation: Nick Foles joins the studio to share his experiences winning the Super Bowl and his journey through various teams. The interview offers a candid look at his relationship with coaches, handling media pressures, and maintaining team chemistry.

• Super Bowl MVP Experience: Foles recounts the pivotal moment when he stepped in for an injured Carson Wentz, leading the team to victory.

  Nick Foles [107:13]: "So, you know, I've been around him enough. I knew something was wrong when he came off."

• Leadership and Teamwork: Emphasizing the importance of a strong locker room, Foles discusses how trust and mutual respect among teammates contribute to on-field success.

  Nick Foles [117:23]: "You have to buy into that and you have to understand their perspective."

• Media Relations: Foles shares his approach to handling media interactions, focusing on maintaining composure and redirecting conversations to stay on message.

  Nick Foles [120:28]: "Having that brotherly bond that will last for life."

• Cultural Insights: The interview delves into the cultural aspects of Philadelphia sports, the city's passionate fan base, and the legacy of memorable plays like the "Philly Special."

  Nick Foles [108:37]: "Philadelphia is an awesome city. If any of y'all have ever been to a game in the stadium, it is an amazing place to be the home team."

• Personal Growth and Reflection: Foles reflects on his career highs and lows, the wisdom gained from overcoming challenges, and the importance of gratitude and teamwork.

  Nick Foles [130:23]: "I gained a lot of wisdom through the ups and downs. Raising three children and raising kids is not easy."

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Conclusion

This episode seamlessly blends in-depth NFL analysis with engaging conversations, all while maintaining the hosts' trademark humor. The insightful interview with Nick Foles offers fans a unique perspective on what it takes to excel at the highest levels of football. As Week 15 progresses, listeners are left with compelling takes and a deeper understanding of both the sport and the personalities that drive it.

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Notable Quotes

• PFT Commenter [05:50]: "I think he is still a very good quarterback."
• Nick Foles [117:23]: "You have to buy into that and you have to understand their perspective."
• Nick Foles [130:23]: "I gained a lot of wisdom through the ups and downs. Raising three children and raising kids is not easy."

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Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the game was terrible.

[Big Cat]

Terrible.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a. It was a bad game. It was raining pretty hard for the first half, but it looked like neither team could. They couldn't get the ball going on the ground. They couldn't get the ball going. The passing game. Nothing happened in the first half.

[Big Cat]

Nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

That's like the first game that I can remember where absolutely nothing happened in a half. Puka Nakua made a good catch. The camera misidentified a player as being Trent Williams.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

That might have been the highlight of the first half.

[Big Cat]

That might have been it.

[PFT Commenter]

Like looking at the TV and being like, hey, that's not Trent Williams.

[Big Cat]

The first, the first quarter specifically went 3 plays punt, 4 plays punt, 5 plays punt, 3 plays punt, 3 plays punt, three place punt, punt, six with this is going into. Wait, we started the game 1, 2. Oh, I guess there was a field goal in there, but. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 punts, 10 punts in one field goal was the start of the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, when, you know, when I watch games like this, especially in prime time, because if it's in on a Sunday and it gets swallowed up by the rest of the slate, you can overlook it. But if it's a prime time game like this, I look at watching it like we're making a deposit into the future football bank.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're.

[PFT Commenter]

That money is going to go ahead and make money. You don't always see immediate returns on your investment, but I know if I watch enough games like that, then I'm going to watch if, if you don't love me at my 49ers Rams, you don't deserve me at my Bills Rams.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was. I mean, it was bad. It was bad. I mean we had. Yeah, the Lions, packers game last week was great. This just happens late, late season Thursday night football. Just a little bit of rain, everything up. We also have to have a Conversation about Brock Purdy. We should probably walk back. Well, you know what? I'm not going to walk it back because last year he was playing like a top five quarterback. But there's been talk about him getting an extension. I know a lot of guys are hurt, but how much can you pay Brock Purdy knowing that he's a good quarterback? He's not in the level of make everyone better quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he is. I think he had a. He had a very bad game tonight. Like, he looks. He looked stupid and shitty tonight. That's my.

[Big Cat]

That last throw was so bad.

[PFT Commenter]

It was stupid and shitty in one throw. It was dumb to throw it and it was a bad pass. I think he's still a very good quarterback.

[Big Cat]

You think he's.

[PFT Commenter]

Give me a number how much I would pay him.

[Big Cat]

I mean, 60 has been floated around.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not my money. 60 a year.

[Big Cat]

60.

[PFT Commenter]

60 what?

[Big Cat]

I think it was. 60 was floated around. What was the.

[PFT Commenter]

What was the number?

[Hank]

I have a question for you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Hank]

If he was in the NFC east, would you want.

[PFT Commenter]

Good question.

[Hank]

A rival team to sign him long term?

[PFT Commenter]

Good question.

[Big Cat]

65 million a year.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a question for you, Max.

[Big Cat]

Holy.

[PFT Commenter]

Would I want the Giants to sign Brock Purdy? Yes, I would.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But if he's on a team that's got weapons, I guess Malik neighbors pretty good. But if he's on a team that's like. If he's on a good team, he can be a very, very good quarterback. We've obviously seen it from him.

[Hank]

But that's the point that once you pay them, then you have to. Actually, I don't get the cap. I don't get.

[Big Cat]

No, the cap makes no sense.

[PFT Commenter]

The cap doesn't exist.

[Big Cat]

All right, so this. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you make kind of a valid point though, which is like if he's not on a team with good players, then no, he's not like a difference maker that can take a team to the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

The projections that I'm reading right now. So there was a report, 60 a year. That's insane. You can't pay Brock Purdy 60 a year. A year. A year. Again, all these things are like fake money. But yeah, because you don't know how much is guaranteed.

[PFT Commenter]

Cap is going up.

[Big Cat]

You could just be like, we're going to pay him 60 a year and then you can cut them after.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, how did you think that salaries were broken down?

[Big Cat]

You thought it was just 60 total?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Give them $60 million. You're a quarterback for like five years.

[Big Cat]

So you're saying like 60 for five years. I would do that in a second. I'll do that in a second. Yeah. No, I think it's. It's got to be more in, like the 30s. I don't know. He's. He's not. It. What? Brock Purdy, he. Yeah, yeah. This is. This is the conversation that's going on.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, we've seen Brock Purdy be a good football player.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Very good at times, but it's also when a lot. When all his guys are healthy and everyone else is very good at him. Also.

[PFT Commenter]

The thing.

[Big Cat]

Samuel, my ass.

[PFT Commenter]

The thing with. The thing with Brock Purdy is John lynch kind of owes Brock Purdy.

[Big Cat]

He can't play. Like.

[PFT Commenter]

No, but think. I mean, think about it.

[Big Cat]

Think about it.

[PFT Commenter]

The move that John lynch made on draft day to move up, get Trey. Lance. He's not talked about as being one of the bigger draft busts of all time.

[Big Cat]

He just needs more snaps.

[PFT Commenter]

But the fact is Brock Purdy saved John Lynch's ass by being good with the very last pick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I don't know what they're going to pay him. The Niners need a full reset, though. I feel like this was the game. If they win this game, they're like, all right, maybe we'll make it the playoffs. I don't think they're making the playoffs. What are the odds? Can we get the odds up? You have us watching some stupid show right now on this.

[PFT Commenter]

They're not going to make the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're watching a show. We're watching a Happy holidays show.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe this game just taught us that Trent Williams was the most valuable player of this team.

[Big Cat]

And Brandon Iuk.

[Memes]

Less than 1% chance.

[Big Cat]

And a. What?

[PFT Commenter]

What's less than for the Niners?

[Big Cat]

And Trent Williams is very important. Brandon Ayuk is very important. Debo Samuels 4 years ago was very important.

[PFT Commenter]

Or I mean, even last season.

[Big Cat]

Christian McCaffrey is very important.

[PFT Commenter]

Very, very important.

[Big Cat]

I. They're gonna have to make some hard decisions and shed some of these guys. So less than 1%. What about the Rams? Because the Rams. Let's talk about the Rams. The Rams. Credit the Rams. They've won games in very. I mean, you can't win games in. In two different ways than what they did against the Bills four days ago. Five days ago in that shootout where they score 44 and then figure out a way tonight to grind it out and win a 12 to 6 game where it felt like nothing was happening. Cooper Cup. Did he have a catch? I know he didn't have a catch to go into the fourth quarter.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't think that he did.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, Puka Nakua had a couple big plays, but they, they, you know, that was a gutsy find a way to win. Tough, tough game for the Rams. And now they are 8 and 6. They play the jets, they play the Cardinals, they play the Seahawks again. I mean, I'm the biggest Commanders fan in the world now because this is. I can't.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, Hank too. Hank has a Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

I can't have the Rams in the playoffs.

[Memes]

No, the rams have a 48% chance right now to make it to the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

And what did.

[Memes]

What are the Commanders at the commanders?

[Big Cat]

50.

[Hank]

That was. That was current if win. It jumped up to 50 from 48.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Max. Thanks, Matt. The way Max said 50 there, he's so excited.

[Hank]

Well, that was also like. It went from 48 to 50.

[Memes]

It wasn't like the Commanders, if they win on Sunday, have an 86%.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

If they lose 57.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God.

[Memes]

But there's no way.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God, Jake.

[Memes]

There's literally no way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're gonna get to that. We. We talk about it in the preview, but. Oh, my God. Yeah, listen, I can't have the Rams in these playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, you would still rather play. You'd rather play the Rams than the Commanders.

[Hank]

I mean, the Rams.

[Memes]

Which world are we in?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I might paint myself green if the. That's great.

[Memes]

That's actually a fair question.

[Hank]

I'm going to say this.

[Big Cat]

Say it.

[Hank]

Who would you rather play that game we just watched? I didn't watch a game that been like, holy shit, I don't want to play this team. Yeah, that was the worst football game ever.

[Big Cat]

But the Rams do. The Rams do deserve credit for finding a way to win that game because it was ugly, it was terrible, and the Rams were horrendous.

[PFT Commenter]

The Rams did look much better in a very, very shitty game than. Yeah, the Niners did. I said during the game, but if that was the first game ever played a football, they would never play a second game of football. Maybe this may be like, this sport is not good. Let's retool, get back together. We're playing rugby now.

[Big Cat]

Maybe this is a solution because Al Michaels is back for another year. So they announced that this week. He's back for another year. Really? Yeah, he's year to year.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, I, but, but hold on. I've had my sword out for Al Michaels the last two season. I don't know If I've got a.

[Big Cat]

Hold on bft, maybe the solution is they just have to guarantee that there's no touchdown scored on Thursday Night Football. Because Al Michaels was not a problem tonight. He matched the energy perfectly. Yeah, like he was the perfect announcer for this game.

[PFT Commenter]

When he's annoyed at an appropriate time, then it's okay. But I can't do another season of defending Al Michaels. Yeah, I just can't do it.

[Big Cat]

What were you looking for?

[PFT Commenter]

My men are tired.

[Big Cat]

Do you have anything for us? Oh, I thought you had one other thing for us. Looking up. What are the chances? Oh, no. The Niners really did.

[PFT Commenter]

So wait, what are the commanders at right now, Max?

[Memes]

78%.

[PFT Commenter]

78.

[Big Cat]

Okay, that's good.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys are acting like.

[Memes]

Max, you never answer the question.

[PFT Commenter]

Into the world.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you never answer the question.

[Hank]

Max, in. In what were it?

[Memes]

The playoffs start tomorrow.

[Hank]

I would like.

[Big Cat]

I would like the Rams, but in the real world.

[Hank]

In the real world, I would like.

[Big Cat]

It is the same world.

[Hank]

But see, Hank doesn't get it because Hank never loses the big game. He always wins it.

[Big Cat]

Hank, who the fuck is the guest.

[Memes]

On this show today?

[Big Cat]

Dude, Hank. Oh, Hank. Nick falls on the show, and Hank had to leave midway through.

[PFT Commenter]

Once he started talking about the Super Bowl. Hank gets up. Watch for this in the YouTube.

[Hank]

He took his headphones off and he was just going off what Nick Falls was saying. Yeah, by, like, my reaction. And he was getting. He was getting angry. And I was looking at him, he was like, oh, can't hear.

[Memes]

Everyone was acting like the fucking president was here. Made me sick.

[PFT Commenter]

You and Hank are pretty much the same person, Max. Did you know that, like, deep down in your core, you're the same guy.

[Memes]

Also, Bruins lost game seven, like, two years ago.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Hank, don't even. You. I saw you retweet that. That horrendous, horrendous stat of all this. I want Chicago to be good. That's insane.

[Memes]

Honestly, though, I read it as a good thing because the tides have to turn.

[Big Cat]

It was insane.

[Memes]

Chicago is a very fun city. I love living in Chicago. Great sports town, passionate fans.

[PFT Commenter]

They deserve better.

[Big Cat]

Here's. Here it is. And I'm going to. I'm going to give you guys some guesses. So this is from Jay Cuda. So in the last seven years, he did a combination of wins, playoff wins per City. Last seven years. So Boston has 133 wins between their four teams in the last seven years. Philly, 72 wins. The Bay Area, which has five teams, 81 wins. Phoenix 38, Atlanta 38. Atlanta only has three teams. Denver, 94, Tampa 83. Toronto. Only three teams.

[Memes]

Doesn't Tampa only have three two?

[Big Cat]

Tampa has three teams, 83 wins. Toronto has 51 wins. They have three teams. How many playoff wins do you think the city of Chicago has in the last seven years?

[PFT Commenter]

Five. Seven years.

[Memes]

Five teams.

[PFT Commenter]

Five teams. So the Blackhawks, none. The Cubs. This does not count. 2016. Or does it?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so none for the Cubs, then none for the White Sox. The Bears don't have any either.

[Big Cat]

You're off on a couple.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, does a plan count?

[Big Cat]

Playing counts.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Five, four. The answer is four. The White Sox have two. The Blackhawks have one. The Bulls have one. So shut the up, Hank. Max, I got your back. He doesn't understand. All right? But. But again, you couldn't take Nick Foles sitting in here.

[Memes]

The fact that you want to play the Rams. Super bowl champion Rams, stud quarterback, great coach.

[Big Cat]

What year are we in?

[Memes]

No, like they've won a Super bowl recently. Yeah, like they have.

[Big Cat]

They have.

[Memes]

They have a Super bowl three years ago.

[PFT Commenter]

But like the Aaron Donald.

[Memes]

Same. Same coach.

[Big Cat]

Aaron Donald's very important.

[Memes]

Same coach, same quarterback. That. That's the same. Same core.

[Big Cat]

Okay, okay.

[Memes]

Or the most dysfunctional franchise of all time with a rookie quarterback.

[Big Cat]

Hank.

[Memes]

And you're taking the Rams.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank. Three Super Bowls. Okay, Joe Gibbs.

[Hank]

I don't want to lose again to another person on this podcast in the playoffs. I've done it to you twice, and it's the worst feeling. You don't understand how bad the feeling is. He doesn't lose to somebody in this podcast in a playoff game.

[Big Cat]

He doesn't. He does not. Wrong.

[Memes]

Jake Marsh.

[Big Cat]

He got you there. Gotcha. Either way, I. The Niners are dead. It's over. Reset everything. It's over. And then the Rams. We got. We got a Rams problem on this podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's a big Rams.

[Big Cat]

We got a Rams problem.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm knee deep in the Rams right now.

[Big Cat]

I'm with you. I'm a brother in arm.

[PFT Commenter]

Got a great coach and somebody sent this scenario to me. And the more. The more.

[Big Cat]

This is sick.

[PFT Commenter]

It's perverted.

[Big Cat]

This person go to jail free crime.

[PFT Commenter]

They should be arrested, executed. There is a scenario that is looking more likely. I don't want to say it's probable, but the scenario is out there and it's talking to me every day. That week 18, Hank is so.

[Big Cat]

Hey, you want to take off your pants?

[Memes]

I'm very excited.

[PFT Commenter]

I need to beat the Cowboys or maybe I. Maybe it doesn't matter if I beat the Cowboys or not, but the commanders playoff chances come down to the Bears beating the Packers.

[Big Cat]

When PFT told me that, I was like, dude, that sucks. And he's like, no, I'll root for the Bears. I'm like, no, no, we won't beat the Pac Packers.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a. It's a. It's a scenario that's out there. There's all I'm going to be thinking about.

[Big Cat]

It would be the worst scenario ever because there's no chance they're going to be.

[Memes]

Separate game. Is it separate time? They don't do that.

[Big Cat]

They don't announce it till before.

[PFT Commenter]

But I think. I think if the Bears lost that game, that might be.

[Big Cat]

Not an if.

[PFT Commenter]

That might be the top part of my take.

[Big Cat]

There's not an if. Pft. They're going to lose.

[PFT Commenter]

If you lose by like 45 points to the packers again, sure. And then that knocks me out and that. That makes Hank's bet win, and then Max is happy.

[Big Cat]

That would be real sick if it. Like, if.

[Memes]

No, it would. No, not 45. 1.

[Big Cat]

If it came down. It would be really sick if it was like all the tiebreakers. Then it came down to point differential.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Packers won by like 50.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. We're rooting in the fourth quarter because the packers are only winning by 40.

[Big Cat]

Points and the Bears have four yards.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And then the packers score a meaningless touchdown on the last Dr. You just got.

[Memes]

You send me that. I want to. No, don't send it to me.

[PFT Commenter]

Do your own homework.

[Memes]

Okay, someone send me the notes.

[Big Cat]

All right, well, we got the rest of Week 15 picks and preview. That game sucked. I am impressed with the Rams. Just because if you could win both again. If you win those two ways in five days span, that's. I mean, they weren't the problem tonight. The Niners were the problem. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Somehow Sean McVeigh looked less wet than Kyle Shanahan. And he wasn't even wearing a hat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Kyle Shannon had that hood up where it's like, I want to be anywhere but here.

[PFT Commenter]

McVeigh was just gliding between the raindrops.

[Big Cat]

Someone asked him if he wants to leave again tonight. Because I know he said no after he won by a million.

[PFT Commenter]

Better weather in Chicago.

[Big Cat]

Listen, you don't have to pay Caleb Williams for a few years. Brock Purdy's got to get paid right now. Right now. Okay, let's get to ourselves. Picks and preview. Nick Foles and then Fire Fest. Okay. Before we get to our weekend Preview. It's brought to you by our friends at Game Time. Game Time is focused on togetherness. This holiday season, when you bring people together at live events, the experience is that much better and it's the perfect gift. You know how much we love Game Time. Now with their brand new Game Time Picks feature, they're making it even easier to get to a game. Game Time Picks filters out the fluff to show you only incredible deals on great seats so you don't have to waste time searching through thousands of tickets. We're looking for Bills Lions tickets.

[Memes]

It's pricey, but it's going to be a Super bowl atmosphere. You can get in for 380 bucks.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Late slate is maybe the most perfect part of an NFL Sunday that we've had all season.

[Memes]

You'd rather have it better late than early though, right? Like, you'd rather have this be this way than if you reversed it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Shout out to people that go to church. They're going to get back, have. Have great NFL matchups ready for them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This might be the slate of the year. The afternoon slate. Week 15.

[Hank]

Church normally ends before.

[Memes]

Yeah, church is like 10:00am yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe if you got the way you guys worship, maybe.

[Memes]

What time did you go to church?

[Hank]

I was.

[PFT Commenter]

I went to Quaker meeting that was a little bit more relaxed, let you be hung over, stumble on in.

[Hank]

I went to 11:30 mass, but it would be done at 12:30 and you'd be home by. You'd be home by the one time.

[PFT Commenter]

Your game start in central time zone. Max.

[Hank]

Well, 11:30 is the east coast time. I think they.

[Big Cat]

You think?

[PFT Commenter]

Probably starts at 10:30. And they schedule church for football, do they?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Smart.

[Hank]

They should. Early. Yeah. There's multiple masses, you know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there are.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. So we. That's the setting for this weekend. We got to get through the early slate. We just got to get through the early slate. First up, let's do some games. First up, Chiefs at Browns. Browns plus four over under 43 and a half. The Kansas City Chiefs are on a seven game against the spread losing streak, which is pretty crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

It is.

[Big Cat]

Especially because they are 11 and 1.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, maybe.

[Big Cat]

Maybe they're 12 and 1. Are they 12 and 1?

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe they're just perfect at not exerting themselves too much. They don't waste any energy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they don't waste any energy. They're 12 and one and they've lost seven games against the spread in a row. It basically, they're testing everything where it's like, we're going to be so great. But also anyone who's like, don't. You don't get rich betting against Patrick Mahomes. Actually, you do this year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's been the year to do it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I just want Jamis to play well enough in this game that he doesn't get benched next week.

[Big Cat]

I agree with that because next week.

[PFT Commenter]

It will be Browns, Bengals, and I just want to see James Winston and Joe Burrow duel it out.

[Big Cat]

I want to see 85 points. Yeah, the, the. I think James is going to be okay. The Chiefs past defense. The Chiefs have a couple problems. Their offensive lines a problem. Their past defense is a problem. Their past defense since Jalen Watson, one of their great defensive backs, went out for the season, is 28th in EPA. So Jameis might be able to cook. And also DJ Humphries is already questionable, so he had a hamstring issue. So they might be back to like, holy shit. We're shuffling along the line.

[PFT Commenter]

Did they get that MRI back?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I don't know if I know that.

[PFT Commenter]

Andy was waiting on that.

[Big Cat]

The mri. The MRI said that?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He's like, I'm waiting on this.

[Big Cat]

We ordered an mri.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. We'll see what happens with that. I like what the Browns did this week. They cut Kaderius Tony, which is smart.

[Big Cat]

Yes. That's addition by subtraction.

[PFT Commenter]

It also tells me that they probably asked Kaderison, hey, can you give us any information about the Chiefs playbook? Realize that he had absolutely no help on that regard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And they're like, well, that's really the only reason why we're hoping to have you around this week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll see you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. I, I like the Browns in this game.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you like them straight up?

[Big Cat]

I don't know if I like them straight up. Also, another stat that might be Pro Jameis. The Chiefs are third fewest in the league in takeaways. So They've only had 10 takeaways this year. Not turning the ball over on opposing offenses that much maybe. We know he's been. James has been. So he had the game against the Broncos. Pick six after pick six, he asked the Lord to deliver him from pick sixes. Against the Steelers, no pick sixes did throw two picks. Maybe the final iteration is no picks.

[PFT Commenter]

No picks this week. I don't know. I wouldn't mind if he had. Like, I don't want James to throw no picks. That means he's not taking enough chances.

[Big Cat]

True.

[PFT Commenter]

I want Full Blooded James.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we need Full Blooded Jamis.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know which Jameis we're going to get this week. It could be good, could be bad. I'm hoping for good.

[Big Cat]

I'm hoping for great Browns against the spread.

[PFT Commenter]

Not a bad play. Brown straight up.

[Nick Foles]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

It's up to you.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Well, here's the thing, too, is this is probably the best game in the early slate. Just because it is the Chiefs and it's James.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, this is the game that I'll be watching the most.

[PFT Commenter]

I would say for ball knowers, this game should catch your eye.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This game. This game will be. Will be the best. So I will have something for this game. What do you say?

[Memes]

Hank, I know no one cares about your fantasy team, but I do. I am wrestling between Patrick Mahomes this week and Jane Daniels and I. This game could mean a lot for me if I go with Patrick Mahomes.

[PFT Commenter]

But I don't know.

[Memes]

What do you guys think?

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's a man's fantasy. Questions are between him and the Lord.

[Big Cat]

I want to answer this, but I got to buy in both my leagues.

[Memes]

Okay, thanks.

[Big Cat]

I mean, well, actually, no, I have my. The big league. I don't have a buy, but that. Ebo and Blotman are going to handle that. Say the question again.

[PFT Commenter]

I got you.

[Memes]

Jane Daniels. Patrick Mahomes.

[PFT Commenter]

Jane Daniels.

[Nick Foles]

Easy.

[Big Cat]

No question.

[PFT Commenter]

Just in general or this week?

[Big Cat]

Because I would say this week in fantasy.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. This week in fantasy, guys.

[Big Cat]

This week in fantasy. That's. Yeah. Jane Daniels for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Smart man.

[Big Cat]

I mean, Mahomes is. Could. Could do great.

[Memes]

But, like, I've done that too many times where I'm like, it's my homes. And he just. He sucks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, I think he's going to. I think the. The Browns defensive line is going to be all over him. So I, like, they haven't been able to protect him.

[PFT Commenter]

Have they been saving Kelsey for the playoffs?

[Big Cat]

I thought so, but also, they. Yeah, maybe they have.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what we. We have to give them the benefit of every single doubt that.

[Big Cat]

I don't think the Chiefs are bad. I'm not one of those. They're just lucky. I've. We've said this before. I think that the Chiefs, the. The. The championship DNA, they have Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, they're a type of team that if you make one mistake, they will capitalize on it and they will make that into winning football. I'm just more pointing out that, like, if you're a Chiefs fan, you know, there's holes. Like, the secondary's been struggling, the offensive line's been struggling. Can they. Can Patrick Mahomes overcome all of that? Probably. Maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

You probably still can.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But I like the. I think The Browns are live here. Okay. Next game, Bengals at titans. Titans are plus five and a half over under 46. All the lines on DraftKings. Does the words Brian Callahan revenge game mean anything?

[PFT Commenter]

A little bit, I think. Well, maybe not, because him and Zach Taylor are like best friends.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So Callahan would say that like after losses. I think it actually was the other way around. I think. I think Zach Taylor was saying after losses, the only people that hit you up are like, your wife and maybe like your. One of your parents.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

You up.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But apparently Callahan would hit him up after every loss to know exactly what to say. So these guys are like very, very close friends. So I don't know if revenge is going to be the right thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So there's maybe a little bit of a hybrid revenge. I love this guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's an I love this guy game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Joe Burrow got robbed when he was playing Monday football. That fucking sucked.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. There's a criminal syndicate out there that is targeting players based on their Monday Night Football schedules.

[Big Cat]

It's not.

[PFT Commenter]

And then just invading their homes while they're. While they're known to be away.

[Big Cat]

I feel bad for Joe.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel bad for Joe. He said his privacy has been invaded in more ways than one. So I won't. I won't touch on the other part. I'll just say that, like, Joe Burrow is so handsome that literally everyone finds him attractive.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Regardless of your sexual orientation. That's just a good looking human.

[Big Cat]

That's a good looking human and a cool dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I like the Bengals just because the Titans are so bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Have the Titans given up?

[Big Cat]

I don't know if they've given up. I don't know if they're good enough to like, if they were trying their hardest. I don't think it would look good anyway.

[PFT Commenter]

What would be worse if this was them trying their hardest.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

The last two weeks, the loss against the Commanders and then losing to the Jaguars. Would it be worse if they were trying their hardest in those games or would it be worse if they were just kind of giving up on this?

[Big Cat]

I think it'd be worse. They're trying their hardest and I think they still are trying their hardest. And it's so bad that it looks. It masks as giving up.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like everybody except Calvin Ridley is trying their hardest. Calvin Ridley kind of gave up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. But it's. It's bad. The Titans are really, really bad. And the Bengals are alive. Ish.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we're going to. We're going to keep Doing it.

[Big Cat]

Listen, if the Bengals, they get to play the Broncos. If the Colts beat the Broncos this weekend and then the Colts lose a couple games, the Bengals are. They kind of start not controlling their own destiny, but they have at least a little more say in their destiny than they would otherwise.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I want the Bengals to keep winning. It'd be great just because it'd be great going into the last couple weeks of the season if they were still theoretically alive.

[Big Cat]

It also would just be a great playoff. Like, it would just bolster the playoff matchups. If we're like, oh, first round is Josh Allen versus Joe Burrow. I mean, Bo Nicks would be awesome too. So I'm not. We got good options. But the Bengals, at least we know they are statistic or technically still alive and still playing for something.

[PFT Commenter]

They sure are.

[Big Cat]

And they're doing the whole. I'm sure they're doing the playoff start now.

[PFT Commenter]

Where's the ping pong table at?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

That's going to be key for me.

[Big Cat]

The playoffs start now.

[PFT Commenter]

Every game is a must.

[Big Cat]

Every game is a playoff game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

For them. And they still might not even get in the playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

This is super, super wild card weekend.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right. Commanders at saints. Saints minus seven and a half over. Under is 44 PFT. I think there's gonna be a whomping.

[PFT Commenter]

It should be a whopping.

[Big Cat]

Can I, can I, can I, can I give you some confidence?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, so my first question is because, I don't know, I haven't seen anything out there about this. Are we getting Spencer Rattler on the Saints? Are we getting Jake Hayner on the Saints?

[Big Cat]

I don't think it matters because I have. I have some things that are going to maybe fill you up with confidence.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

The first is Jaden Daniels is 7 and 1 against spread versus teams under.500. The Saints are under.500. The second is, here's a list of games and I want you to tell me what they have in common. Bucks 51, Saints 27. Broncos 33. Saints 10. Chargers 26, Saints 8.

[PFT Commenter]

The over. Hitting three out of four of those.

[Big Cat]

Those were the three games that Derek Carr missed.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay?

[Big Cat]

They got smoked. Derek Carr, you can say whatever you want about him, but I think he masks a lot of the badness of the Saints. Even though they're still bad with Derek Carr. Sometimes I think it's gonna. I. They can't. How are they gonna move the ball?

[PFT Commenter]

No Derek Cardinal and no taste.

[Big Cat]

Two of those games were no Taysom Hill. One you know they lost by. Yeah, 20 plus. They lost by 20. 20 plus. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, Jaden makes his return to Louisiana. Gonna be in the dome.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like he's fully healed now.

[Big Cat]

I think this is gonna be.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what, you know what they're gonna do this weekend? They're gonna turn him loose.

[Big Cat]

Oh, this is the.

[PFT Commenter]

Jaden Daniels gets turned loose week off a.

[Big Cat]

By.

[PFT Commenter]

Off a buy. Feeling good. Going back to Louisiana playing. I think this is his first game in a dome on artificial turf because he played in Arizona, but that's grass.

[Big Cat]

And he played in Cincy. That's not a dome.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it is turf, but this is the first combo artificial turf. Wow.

[Big Cat]

He's anti Jared Goff.

[PFT Commenter]

He might be. I feel like this is going to be a. This, this could be a whopping. I don't want to get too confident, but it's a must. Want.

[Big Cat]

I think you. I think there's no thing is like, I think you guys are going to win this game. I feel confident in the commanders and it's a must. Win.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a must. Want.

[Big Cat]

It's a must. Swamp. No, don't say must for me.

[PFT Commenter]

For me, it's a must.

[Big Cat]

I think it's just a must win.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So.

[Big Cat]

And then you got to look at over there. If they. If the Eagles lose, then you're starting to think who.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Next week.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't look in that rearview mirror.

[Big Cat]

Watch out. So watch out, buddy.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not going to.

[Big Cat]

Don't drop the soap.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not going to overlook the Saints, though. Saints are a good football team. I'm just trying to do like coach speak right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, they're good.

[Big Cat]

Jake Hater does a lot of good things.

[PFT Commenter]

Jake Hayner, he's looked good in some of his pictures that he took. The official team photos were very interesting. That Jake Hayner took the season. Spencer Rattler, five star guy out of high school. We know he's got the talent.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's somewhere in there.

[PFT Commenter]

Alvin Kamara, I mean, what hasn't he done in this league?

[Big Cat]

Says that's all you got to say.

[PFT Commenter]

He does it all.

[Big Cat]

You got to just say that.

[PFT Commenter]

They got some playmakers on defense that have been around. Good kicking game.

[Big Cat]

They pay those guys too late.

[PFT Commenter]

They pay those guys too. Being a road favorite like this is a. It's still a very unusual sensation for me. I'm not. I don't know how to feel about it. But Marshawn Lattimore should play this weekend.

[Big Cat]

Revenge game for him.

[PFT Commenter]

Revenge game for him. Which will be nice and good vibes in the District. It looks like we're getting RFK Stadium back.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All we had to do was trade a squadron of F16s to Maryland for it.

[Big Cat]

Oh, hell, yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Which is.

[Big Cat]

That's an awesome trade.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a story that was, I think, only written for me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah, what is. Why Does Maryland need DCs, F16s? I don't know.

[Big Cat]

We think about naming an RFK Junior Stadium.

[PFT Commenter]

RFK Junior Stadium.

[Big Cat]

That would be kind of cool. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No shots allowed.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There's some dead. Dead animals in the end zone.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Put one at midfield.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Not.

[Big Cat]

Not bad. It's gonna play around the whale carcass.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You get brain worms if you play there.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Hank, have we mentioned any of your Hungry Dog teams yet?

[Memes]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so the Saints are not in the Hungry.

[Big Cat]

So you're in the clear. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The Browns are not in the Hungry Dog.

[Memes]

Nope.

[Big Cat]

Titans?

[Memes]

Nope.

[Big Cat]

God, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, are you. What's. What are your thoughts on this if the Commanders win? I know you put that bet in for them to not make the playoffs because you're Jake Hater.

[Big Cat]

I did.

[Memes]

Well, if the Commanders win, my. My super bowl future gets that much better. So I'd be excited.

[PFT Commenter]

I love you, Hank. That's so nice.

[Big Cat]

That's very nice. That's very nice of you. How about this one, Hank? Raven's a giant.

[Memes]

There's no way they lose this game. Like, it's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. Okay, now you're being mean.

[Big Cat]

Further. He went a little further.

[Memes]

There's.

[PFT Commenter]

Give me.

[Memes]

Give me everything you just said.

[PFT Commenter]

Give me Hank's supercomputer. Projected outcome for this game.

[Big Cat]

The things we just said were. Coach speak. Talking up the Saints.

[Memes]

You could simulate this game a thousand times. The Saints might win twice.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

But what is it? What's the aggregate projection?

[Memes]

Aggregate projection. 35, 7.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

All right.

[Big Cat]

So that's your statistical model.

[Memes]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

So you're taking the. Are you taking the Commanders this weekend? I mean, that's a pretty powerful model.

[Big Cat]

A thousand times they only. The Saints only win twice.

[Memes]

Seven and a half points. NFL team, though. It's a lot.

[Big Cat]

You should just see. Why don't you throw the Commanders in the Hungry Dog?

[Memes]

Yeah, tease them.

[Big Cat]

Why don't you throw the Commander's money line in the Hungry Dog? Just juice those odds.

[Memes]

That's not how the Hungry Dog works.

[Big Cat]

But, I mean, you could just. It's just. It's a thousand times they Play only two times, they would lose. It's.

[Memes]

I'll tease him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, if you tease him, what would that be? Seven and a half? Down to one and a half?

[Memes]

Yeah, yeah, something like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There's no chance, right?

[Memes]

Literally no chance.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, you said two. Two out of a thousand.

[Hank]

I'll hop on that teaser, too. Yeah, just let me know.

[PFT Commenter]

Give me the second leg. Find the second leg for that teaser. We'll find out as we go through the games. How about that? Yeah, we'll make a PM tease.

[Big Cat]

Okay. This is not a teaser game, but Ravens and giants. Giants plus 16 over under is 42 and a half. 16.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a lot of points.

[Big Cat]

It's the. The Giants have not been underdogs of double digits in the last 50 years at home. It's a lot. A lot, a lot, a lot of points.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so this is the centennial season for the New York Giants, our hundredth season. There is a chance because their last two home games are against the Ravens and the Colts. They're going to be underdogs, I would imagine, against the Colts as well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If they lose those two games, they will become the first team in NFL history to go.09 at home in a single season.

[Big Cat]

Damn. That's crazy. You got to redo the centennial season next year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You just got to pretend this season didn't happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, because there's no year zero.

[Big Cat]

Right. Right. So do that. This is also. It's only the 10th time in the last 40 years, 48 years, that a road team has been this big of a favorite. It's an insane spread. This is a college football spread.

[PFT Commenter]

No home team has been this much of an underdog since 2021. You know who it was? The Jaguars. When they hosted the Bills, but the Jags won nine to six.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I remember that game.

[PFT Commenter]

Who could forget that game?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, I do remember that.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that. Was that like week two or something?

[Big Cat]

Was it the week two or was it the last week game? Remember the season? Wait, Jaguars versus Who was it?

[PFT Commenter]

Jaguars? Bills.

[Big Cat]

Bills. Oh, yeah, that was.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that week two?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was like something some early in the season. I remember that.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So we'll see what happens. Tommy DeVito. He's back.

[Big Cat]

Tommy DeVito. Italians are back. Also, we had a weird story this week that Lamar Jackson shared that his mom was mad at him for not running enough. So he said, my mama just told me that she cussed me out. This is after the game against the Eagles. I'm mad. We're going to get after it. I'm not going to lie to you. We're going to go get after it. I can't wait for this buy to get on. We got the Giants coming up. She said there were lanes I should have taken and ran. I was just trying to let guys develop routes, yada, yada, yada. He then also had a tweet yesterday, said, I can't wait for the Internet to crash. Yeah. Is that because people were like, hey, your mom tells you what to do?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know what that was about. Why the buddy pregnant?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Why the buddy pregnant? All time tweet?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Why was Lamar Jackson? I would imagine that most people. Most of the feedback Lamar gets online has is generally positive.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I would think so.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. Unless he's missing a practice for diarrhea.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Or losing in the playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

Or losing the playoffs. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's probably not a good time for him to go online.

[PFT Commenter]

This would make more sense if he tweeted that out in January.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But the Ravens are also prone to weird games.

[Big Cat]

But the Giants are really bad.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a good point.

[Big Cat]

Counterpoint. The Giants are so, so bad.

[PFT Commenter]

So in their seven home losses, they've been outscored 164 to 71.

[Big Cat]

No Dexter Lawrence, they're just so bad. They're such a bummer. Are they the worst team? They might be the worst team.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Titans, Titans might. I'll say this, without Dexter Lawrence, I think they might be the worst team. I think they. I think they would take the key. So it'd be between the Giants, the Raiders, and the Titans.

[PFT Commenter]

If Daniel Jones was starting. I don't think that they would be the worst team, though.

[Big Cat]

I agree with that. But it is kind of crazy that, like, he definitely would be. He probably would have found them a win somewhere.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They're doing elective surgery to make themselves uglier right now.

[Big Cat]

Right. Okay, so the next game, Cowboys at Panthers. Panthers minus three over under 43. So the Panthers, I think we all agree, have been playing good football.

[PFT Commenter]

I think if you just look at the pan, if you throw away everything before Andy Dalton got into a car accident.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Then I think the Panthers are like an average team that has actually been trending in a very good direction. Like an above average team right now.

[Big Cat]

They're the one of the bad teams that is still playing really hard and pushing teams to the limit. And I was thinking about, like, man, what is this turnaround like? You know, Bryce Young obviously has been great There was a report this week that David Tepper has actually taken a hands off approach to the team.

[PFT Commenter]

Smart.

[Big Cat]

So that might be why the Panthers are good.

[PFT Commenter]

Again, very smart.

[Big Cat]

And I. Good is a relative term. This is the first time they have been favorites in 33 games.

[PFT Commenter]

So I kind of like the Panthers this week.

[Big Cat]

I do, too.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of like them straight up. Oh, I mean, they are. Oh, Hank's going hungry dog with the Cowboys.

[Big Cat]

Go Moss. Hank.

[Memes]

They let down spot.

[Big Cat]

Hank Gomas a letdown spot for the. For the Panthers.

[Memes]

Listen to you guys.

[Big Cat]

They've lost three in a row, but.

[Memes]

You guys are talking about them like they're a good team.

[PFT Commenter]

That's fair.

[Big Cat]

I said relative. I said they're a good team relative to pfd.

[Memes]

Just said above average.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they're playing above average football right now.

[Big Cat]

They.

[PFT Commenter]

They should have beaten the Eagles last week.

[Big Cat]

It should have been the Chiefs. It should have been the Eagles. They were. They went to overtime against the Bucks.

[Memes]

Let down.

[Big Cat]

But they haven't won those games.

[Memes]

But they're riding high.

[Big Cat]

But they haven't won them.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank kind of makes a little bit of sense. Like the Panthers.

[Memes]

We are the Panthers.

[PFT Commenter]

We've never talked about the Panthers.

[Memes]

It's like Mike Tomlin, Steelers as. As home underdogs.

[PFT Commenter]

Panthers as favorites, as road favorites.

[Big Cat]

But the Cowboys stink.

[Memes]

They almost beat the Bengals.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, the Cowboys also have some bad injuries.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And over. Sean's out, right?

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And he.

[Big Cat]

He's out for a long.

[PFT Commenter]

So to me, over Sean, the way that he's played this season, if you compare just straight up to how Michael Parsons has played this season. Overshawn, I think, has been their best defensive player.

[Big Cat]

Kubrick isn't good.

[Memes]

Neither are the Panthers.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I. They're playing good ball.

[Memes]

It.

[Big Cat]

It.

[Memes]

It's just Panthers road favorites.

[Big Cat]

No, they're not. Road. They're home.

[Memes]

Home. Panthers favorites fade.

[Big Cat]

You don't want to go into the.

[PFT Commenter]

Bank, probably bank of America, I think A bank. Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

You don't.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't go into the bank like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You don't do that. You don't go into that bank.

[PFT Commenter]

They're gonna pound that. Keep pounding drum. Somebody's gonna break that drum this weekend. That's my call.

[Big Cat]

Chubb of Hubbard Memes. What do you got? What's up with the sunglasses? So there's a light in there that I guess I haven't noticed till now. And I've just been staring at it now. My eyes are all fucked up. You couldn't stop staring.

[Hank]

It's Literally been there since we've been in this studio.

[Big Cat]

Which light? It's above your left shoulder and you.

[PFT Commenter]

Just started staring at it and couldn't stop.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What are you moth.

[Big Cat]

I was looking at the screen and then I'm seeing dots, so now I got something.

[PFT Commenter]

You look ridiculous wearing. What light podcast above this one? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I. It doesn't even look like it's on to. Very bright. Got it.

[Hank]

It's literally been there since we've started the show.

[Big Cat]

And you just caught eyes with it?

[Nick Foles]

It.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And it's just. It's all I could see.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you still staring at it right now with the sunglasses?

[Big Cat]

Is this a rebrand?

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Make me like, pft.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You wish. You get the lottery ball maybe.

[Big Cat]

So you're going. You're going. Cowboys, Panthers have covered five straight as well let down. They've lost three in a row.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, Hank. Hank is kind of right in that. Nobody has talked about the Panthers in such glowing terms as everybody's been talking about the Panthers recently. But that might just be because they've been playing well.

[Big Cat]

And we're so shocked that Bryce Young. Like, it's been shocking.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because we thought it was. We thought we had written the book.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Classy guy.

[Big Cat]

Very.

[PFT Commenter]

That Bryce Young. Did you see him? He said a prayer.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

In the game. Who was it that got injured on the Eagles?

[Big Cat]

I don't know, but there was a guy who got. Went down.

[Hank]

Went down twice.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if it was him, but he was. He said a prayer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I didn't see this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You would never do that for an opponent.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I would.

[Big Cat]

Is C.J. gardner Johnson okay?

[Hank]

I believe so.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so the prayer worked.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So, wow. Bryce Young.

[Big Cat]

Maybe you should thank Bryce Young. Say thank you to Bryce Young.

[Hank]

Thank you to Bryce Young.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

I have no problem with Bryce Young. He's a good quarterback.

[Big Cat]

He.

[PFT Commenter]

Thoughts and prayers do. And it worked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay, Next game, Jets at Jaguars. Jaguars plus three over under 40 and a half. We have said we're not talking about the Jaguars anymore. We also said that this would be when Hank can maybe unload some conspiracy theories on us. I also have a very funny anecdote I'd like to share with the boys before we hear from Hank. Remember on Wednesday when we were talking about Juan Soto and the fact that Yankees fans are now doing a spin zone where they're like, oh, that guy, he can't even play defense. Well, we actually had a similar situation happen for a murder because I overheard Max in the gambling Cave yesterday, say. Yeah, I heard actually Luigi is Greek. A real thing. He said.

[PFT Commenter]

His full name, Luigi Mangione.

[Big Cat]

He's Greek.

[PFT Commenter]

Greek guy.

[Big Cat]

He's a Greek guy.

[Hank]

I saw a tweet.

[Big Cat]

Okay. But that was an all time spin zone to be like. Yes. Someone told me that he actually might be Greek. This guy.

[PFT Commenter]

This guy right here. Greek.

[Hank]

Individual Greek and Italians are sometimes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, close.

[PFT Commenter]

Luigi Mangione is. Mangione, Is that. What's the country of origin on that?

[Big Cat]

Greece.

[Hank]

It could be.

[Big Cat]

You can't find anything. None of these say green.

[Hank]

I know. I don't know where I. It was like an ancestry thing.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. But it's just so funny that Max, like, I gotta move away from this murder. He's Greek.

[PFT Commenter]

He's actually Greek. Eastern. Eastern Italian. Pretty much Greek. There's, you know, there's countries in between.

[Big Cat]

I just never thought that would happen. Where we get that kind of spin zone where you're trying to disavow by. By changing where he's from. Mangione.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so Hank.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Your conspiracy theory.

[Big Cat]

What do you got for us?

[Memes]

The government.

[Big Cat]

All right, good start. Good start.

[Memes]

They have technology that's illegal to use to track and find someone like Luigi, which they use the Greek guy. The Greek guy, which they used illegally to find him and then planted, you know, they planted all the evidence, the McDonald's worker, the written manifesto to cover their tracks about the fact that they illegally. They basically just like Edward Snowden type stuff where he uncovered that they were, you know, illegally surveying people and illegally tracking people. They basically used that type of technology to find him and then planted evidence that fit the narrative.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, how'd they know it was him, though?

[Memes]

They used illegal stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. And then the McDonald's worker, also a government employee.

[Memes]

The McDonald's worker was a plant. And that's why they're not going to get paid.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, So I did hear about this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So the. The person in McDonald's that allegedly called the cops is not going to get whatever the fifty thousand dollar reward.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This is honestly like a low reward for this, but 50 grand reward because they did not call like Crime stoppers. They dialed 911.

[Big Cat]

What is crime Stopper?

[PFT Commenter]

Crime Stoppers is the company that you call if you see a criminal and they give you money.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So this guy's not. Or this man or woman is not getting paid for that. That's a dial of 91 1.

[Big Cat]

That makes no sense.

[Memes]

It's a loophole.

[Big Cat]

What do you think about the eyebrows.

[Memes]

Eyebrows are suspect. There's pictures where it's. You know, there's a much bigger separation in the pictures they use to try and find them than what he actually has. And then I don't know how this connects to the drones, but I'm still working on that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, drones. We need some reports.

[Memes]

I'm happy we're out of Jersey. I was in Jersey. I'm happy I'm out of there.

[Big Cat]

Those drones are just hovering. Huh. Someone said someone was, like. Not to be an alarmist, but I've figured out what the drones are doing, and they're looking for atomic bombs.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Not to be alarmed. Yeah. Not to be alarmist, but the drones, I've heard that they came out of the ocean. Somebody, like, in the Coast Guard said that the drones came out of the ocean, which means that it could be aliens, too. And then President Pug was reporting that they might be aliens. But good news, they're aliens that are fighting against other aliens, protecting us from the other aliens.

[Big Cat]

So President Pug's got it. By the way, Max is still looking for the Greek thing, and he can't. You made this up.

[Hank]

I may have just made this up in my head. I could have sworn time.

[Big Cat]

We've been talking. He's been furious. We can see his computer. He's been furiously typing in different things in the. In the search bar, being like, greece, Greek.

[PFT Commenter]

There's just.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like, there's no way that an Italian could commit murder.

[Hank]

I saw.

[Big Cat]

Does Luigi Mangioni pay his taxes?

[PFT Commenter]

You ever hear of Sako and Seti?

[Hank]

I saw, like, an ancestor.com thing that was just, like, a screen. A screenshot of his. It could have been any screenshot, now that I think about it. I don't out. I'm just gonna shut up.

[PFT Commenter]

How about his cousin, though? His car? Not his cousin. His. His old roommate throwing him under the bus.

[Big Cat]

Dude.

[PFT Commenter]

His roommate called up. Was it the Daily Mail? Called up the newspaper and said, yeah, you know, I lived with him for a while. His back was so bad that he couldn't. He never had sex because his back was too bad. I'm pretty sure that if you are able bodied enough to, like, get up, go to New York, shoot somebody, ride a bike.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Get on a bus, go to Altoona, Pennsylvania. You could probably have sex.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'd agree. The. There's nothing. Whenever, like, something happens, whether it's a murder, tragedy, whatever it could be, and you have the news the next day, and it says, former roommate or former friend. I immediately like, that guy's a scumbag.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He literally saw something and was like, oh, ask me about this. What the fuck, dude?

[Memes]

Also, this is just conspiracy theory. I'm not saying I believe this. Just connecting dots, Diddy. Allegations come out, bridge blows up. Right? Remember that?

[Big Cat]

Good point.

[Memes]

Jay Z allegations come out drones.

[PFT Commenter]

So like whenever something in the news happens, then there will be another news story that happens.

[Memes]

Well, there's these elite rings that there are, you know, the, the, the elitists and the people in the Illuminati, they're worried about getting busted and they're pushing the, like the button. Distraction button.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's like, Distraction button is drones.

[Big Cat]

Drones, Bridge.

[PFT Commenter]

Where does Mangione fit into this?

[Memes]

A distraction.

[Big Cat]

We just need to send him back to Greece.

[PFT Commenter]

Was he a distraction from Jay Z or was Jay Z a distraction from him? He was, because he. Jay Z happened.

[Big Cat]

What is going on, Jay Z? Can someone tell me?

[Memes]

Yeah, did he.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, did he. Did he? Related allegations. There's a woman that is suing him. So it's a civil case. And the same attorney, David Busby, I think that's his name, Busby, whatever it is, he's out of Houston. He's the same guy that represents all the desean Watson accusers.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Him and his client have filed a civil case against Jay Z, claiming that they. That he raped like a 14 year old girl.

[Big Cat]

That's bad.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Jay Z said, like, take my name out of your mouth. You're about to find out where I come from.

[Big Cat]

Got it. And then Roger Goodell said, we're still doing the halftime show. All's good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's.

[Big Cat]

And Roger Goodell would never lie.

[PFT Commenter]

Roger Goodell said we're gonna stick with Jay Z and wait for all the facts to come out.

[Nick Foles]

Got it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm. I was yawning, so I asked President Pug to grab me a coffee real quick. Pug, do you have any thoughts on the drones? Real quick. Do you want to say it in there? Oh, yeah. It's probably alien.

[Hank]

I've heard it's aliens protecting from other aliens is what I've heard.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Pug.

[PFT Commenter]

Got it.

[Big Cat]

That kind of wraps it up. I don't know what anyone else is gonna look for. Marvel vs DC, probably aliens protecting from other aliens. So that's what I've heard. Is that a whole quote?

[PFT Commenter]

It's good aliens, probably good aliens are protecting us.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Why do they. Why do the good aliens come back in?

[Big Cat]

Come back in? Come on.

[PFT Commenter]

Why do the good aliens. Why? Why Are they protecting us? What's in for them? Are they just nice?

[Big Cat]

Apparently they've been here the whole time, but just in the water. Okay.

[Hank]

And when the bad aliens, I guess are threatening now.

[Big Cat]

So they came out to protect us. Oh, against the bad aliens. So there are saviors. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And how do I tell the difference? If I'm outside and I see an alien, how do I know if it's a good alien or bad one?

[Big Cat]

That's a scary part. I don't think we know. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

But you know the other part. Yeah. Cuz like saying I don't think we know would imply this is the plot.

[Memes]

Of Transformers, you understand?

[Big Cat]

Saying I don't think we know would imply that everything else you said before that is like. Well, that's facts. Well, we know they're protecting us, but we don't know like the war with the bad aliens. Got it. No, got it. Okay. We don't know like the result of that yet. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because it's ongoing.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I will keep us updated.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm on whoever side wins.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Who just said all this stuff?

[Big Cat]

Pug. All right. Thank you, Pug.

[Nick Foles]

Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you have anything about the jets.

[Big Cat]

We can talk about? The Jets? I think this is gonna be a shit kicking by the Jets. Okay. Okay. This is actually my game of the year.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

I think they're going to take all the frustrations out of this dog shit season onto the Jaguars this Sunday and that's it. I think. I actually don't disagree. And it's also just a simple. Like Aaron Rodgers versus Mac Jones. Yeah. You guys want to hear the sad stat of the day? Yeah. Aaron Rodgers averages 260 yards for the next four games. He'll be the single season season passing leader of the New York Jets. Wait, say it again. If he averages 260 yards a game for the next four games, he'll be the single season passing leader for the Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

That seems like a lot of yards though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but he's kind of in that.

[Hank]

Range and it's an extra game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. But still those aren't like the, the Bears passing sad stats when they do the thing like the. What is it? 4, 000 yard passer. Yeah, it's everyone's. It's all the pictures and then just blanket for the Bears.

[PFT Commenter]

Caleb on track for that?

[Big Cat]

I don't think this year, but next year. Yes, he is.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Means I don't disagree with you. It feels like this is a weekend for the jets offense to Actually do something.

[Big Cat]

Well, the jets offense hasn't been bad.

[PFT Commenter]

They top five. Top five.

[Big Cat]

They put over 20 the past couple of games. Not the offense versus Seahawks.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, let's see the last couple games for the jets here.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so the last couple of games for the Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he scored points.

[Big Cat]

The Seahawks game, they did not score 21 on offense. 14. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

And then you scored 27 against the Colts.

[Big Cat]

Was that any. None of that was pick sixes or anything? Nope. All offense, breeze hall. All offense, breeze hall. Okay. And then you scored six against the Cardinals. So two out of the last four games, the offense has scored over 20 points. They're figuring it out.

[PFT Commenter]

This is actually the last few games of the season for the Jaguars. I know we're not supposed preview him, but we have a potential narrative that could stick around for a while developing.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so I'm sitting up.

[PFT Commenter]

Head coach of the Jaguars, Doug Peterson, still the head coach. They should. If he wins this game, they should fire him because that would put him one game above.500 lifetime. Oh, as a head coach, I like that. And you don't want to be like one of those statistics where it's like this super bowl winning Coach is actually below 500.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Career.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're right.

[PFT Commenter]

The nice thing to do for the Jaguars would be to fire Doug Peterson with a win.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. Fire him after a win, let him get above.500. They're not going to win this game though. Memes is right.

[PFT Commenter]

I think memes is right too.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Dolphins is always right.

[Big Cat]

Dolphins. The Texans. Texans minus three. This is the last game of the early slate. This one actually has some playoff implication because Texans are eight and five off a by dolphins still technically alive. So Texans minus three over under is 46 and a half. Can I point out one thing? Because two has been hurt this year. We haven't been able to do the like, hey, fraud Dolphins thing. Two of five wins this year. Are the Rams. Good, Good ish team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, good team.

[Big Cat]

Are they above 500?

[PFT Commenter]

They're six and seven.

[Big Cat]

All right. So. Right, right. Close enough. The Rams, the Jaguars, the Raiders, the Patriots and the Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, there are seven.

[Big Cat]

Six. All right. They are so let me say it again. The Rams, the Jaguars, the Raiders, the Patriots and the Jets. The losses for two of this year, Buffalo twice, Arizona, Green bay, Texans are above 5. We should remember the fact that the Dolphins just can't beat a team above.500.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but I think I like the Dolphins straight up this weekend.

[Big Cat]

But did you hear what I Said I did.

[PFT Commenter]

I heard that. I still like him. I still like him because I don't think the Texans, they're not in that, obviously. The Cardinals, they don't kind of qualify the same way that the Bills would qualify as, like, a very, very good team or the packers would qualify as a very, very good team. But I don't think that the Texans are a super good team.

[Big Cat]

But are the Texans closer to the Bills and the packers or the Jaguars, Raiders, Patriots and Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably closer to the Packers?

[Big Cat]

That's the only. That's my only thought in this game. Not really deep, level thoughts, but that was my thought.

[PFT Commenter]

So, I mean, what you're saying is essentially, if the Texans beat the Dolphins, then the Texans are a good team, and if they lose, then they're a bad team. They're a bad team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This really has a lot to do with that side of the ball.

[Big Cat]

Tell us what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Basically that makes sense.

[Big Cat]

Anything else for this game? I got nothing else.

[PFT Commenter]

That's about it for me.

[Big Cat]

That's the early slate. Let's get into. You know what? Let's build up to the. To the three games. Let's build up to the three great, great games. Let's start with the. We'll start with the ones. There's a couple mixed in there that are not. Actually, there's four great games the afternoon, but one bad one. Hank. Patriots are cardinals, cardinals minus six over under 46.

[Memes]

I'm happy this game's in the afternoon.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Get swallowed up.

[Big Cat]

Swallowed up. Should we talk about Bill Belichick?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Unc, Happy form.

[PFT Commenter]

Your beloved Tar Heels.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Think it probably will work out. It was funny seeing that whole, like, Bill Belichick basically was saying, fuck you to the NFL. Well, I believe that. I also think there's an element of Bill Belichick being like, if I'm not gonna get. I don't want to do another hiring cycle where I don't get hired. I'm going to go take this into my own hands.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And I think he's going to be successful at unc. I really do.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I'm not saying that he's not.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because he's obviously one of the smartest and best football coaches of all time, but there's a lot that's different about college.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

From the NFL.

[Big Cat]

Well, that was the fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, to think that you're going to jump into it and immediately be able to run. Oh, definitely not the best program.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think that. I think it's going to be a lot more complicated than even he thinks it's going to be.

[Big Cat]

It's. I mean, Bill O'Brien has done decently well with Boston College this year in terms of like writing them. And I don't think they're going to win the ACC next year. I think they'll just look a lot more competent than they have. But did you read that article where he was like, I'm just tired of like the bullshit in the NFL.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Feels kind of weird to be like, I'm tired of the bullshit in the NFL. Let me go to somewhere where there's significantly more bullshit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. College football is the bullshittest sport. That's what, that's what we love about it.

[Big Cat]

It's all bullshit.

[PFT Commenter]

It's insane. There's so much crazy shit that happens all the time. Like the NFL is, is pretty buttoned up for the most part, but there's wild stuff that he can't even account for in that. I like the people that are pointing out some coaches have been successful as NFL coaches that then transition into college coaches. And I love the fact that they're including Nick Saban in that list as like a great NFL coach that proved that he just make the transition to college football and win there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So Hank, I think he spent, you.

[Memes]

Know, obviously he wasn't coaching this year. His son was. So I think he obviously got to, you know, hear and see how the way things worked and made the decision that he thought he could handle it. I don't think he's going into it blind and it's going to be blindsided by the way, you know, college and recruiting and all that stuff works. He's, he's seen it, he knows how it goes and he made the decision himself to take the job. He obviously has the 400 page. I would love, love, love to get my hands on that manifesto, on his manifesto. So I think it's going to be exciting. I think you're going to see a different side of Bill. I think, you know, you saw it this year where it's like he was a hard ass NFL coach because he knew that's what it took to win. I think he's going to know that he has to show his softer side, which he did this year in the media. And he's going to do it with coaching where it's like, it's not going to be the same NFL Bill Belichick, it's going to be a different type of Bill Belichick where it's like he's going to do what he has to do to win.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like back to school with Rodney Dangerfield. He's going to be, he's going to be cool guy Bill.

[Memes]

To an extent. Yeah, to a certain extent. I think he's going to be more like the NFL. You know, the NFL players will be like, he was such a hard ass. But it's different when, you know, players are under contract, they're getting paid so much money. Obviously with Nil, it's a little bit similar, but I think he's going to be successful. I am happy that he's at unc. Yeah, it's cool.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, it's.

[Memes]

I. I mean, listen, I. Obviously the Duke stuff, I was a Duke fan growing up, but like, again, I am very close with Caleb. I've known him since I was 22. When I first went to UNC, it was like Mitch Mack, Hollins, Switzer, Jeff Shotmer. Like I've had some, some Carolina football relationships since I've been like 22. So I don't, I don't. I have nothing, I have nothing against Carolina football. Drake May. Great.

[PFT Commenter]

Some of your best friends are unc.

[Memes]

And if like Bill Belichick is using Caleb to recruit, like, that's going to be awesome.

[Big Cat]

Can we make you a split jersey? That would be awesome. A UNC football, Duke basketball or.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And golf.

[Memes]

I'm going to get a Drake May Patriots UNC split.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I like that a lot.

[Big Cat]

Those will be hot. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So you think he's going to be. When you say successful first year playoff.

[Big Cat]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

College football playoff.

[Memes]

We should have won the acc.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I know.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Playoff in the first year.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What kind of props is old Bill gonna have on the sideline? You know, the turnover chain, turnover hoop. You gotta, you gotta appeal to the kids.

[Big Cat]

How?

[Memes]

I feel like he's going to build a staff of people that do all that. That's the other thing. Like, he's got Lombardi as the gm, which I didn't even really. I guess that's a new thing with Nil. But he's going to build a staff and he's like, he knows what he wants to do and he's going to build a staff. He's got his son. He's going to build a staff half who do most of the. He doesn't want to do and he's going to focus on winning.

[Big Cat]

Do you think he's going to ban Tick Tock?

[Memes]

No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Probably can't do that. I agree with you that I think. I don't think he's going to go to the playoff in one year, but I think if he sticks it out, like, I think I said this on Wednesday, but there is a compelling case for Bill Belichick shows up to your living room and says, hey, I can get you in the NFL. It's kind of like the cow, like, I can get you in the NFL. I know what it takes to get you in the NFL. I know what it takes to play NFL football. If you want. Like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that you need an education and like UNC is like some, you know, all this. I'm just gonna get you the NFL.

[PFT Commenter]

Go back to what works at unc. The Butch Jones era.

[Big Cat]

Like, I would be, I wouldn't be shocked if Bill Belichick gets a program running that's like, maybe they don't win, get to the playoff. Maybe they don't win like a ton, a ton of games. But they're like getting guys in the draft every year.

[Memes]

And the transfer Porter, like, he's always been good at getting the most out of guys that you wouldn't expect.

[Big Cat]

True.

[Memes]

He's going to be able to, you know, watch film and watch other teams and players and stuff and get them in the transfer portal and all of a sudden they're going to be good.

[Big Cat]

Can you evaluate a quarterback?

[PFT Commenter]

I think that there will be some people in the portal that would take less money to play for Bill Belichick for sure.

[Big Cat]

Can he evaluate a quarterback?

[Memes]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. With the new rules, Jones. So there's Cam Newton.

[Memes]

Cam Newton was good. Cam Newton got hurt. He was good his first year and then he had a little bit of. He got injured.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, how come he didn't start Tom Brady initially?

[Big Cat]

Why didn't he draft Tom Brady in the first round?

[PFT Commenter]

He had a six round grade on Tom Brady.

[Big Cat]

I actually agree with you. So I don't know, I'm just trolling you. I think he's going to be good and it's also just going to be hilarious watching him be like pissed off for like 18 year old kids on the sideline.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like it makes the ACC significantly more fun with Bill Belichick.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, if you're a college ref and Bill Belichick screaming at you from this call, you think you're I that up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

He's gonna hate Dabo so much. I, I saw tweet. It's like the, like Bill Belichick's face when he sees D running down the hill.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, he's gonna.

[Memes]

He's the anti D. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I also think there's part of this was just the colors, because I've said it before, like, if you're thinking about going to a school and you see the Carolina Blue. Blue. Do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that going to mellow him out? The nice calming shade of blue?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I think he's been chilled. I mean, I think, like, you've seen. You've seen the good side and the. The chill side of Bill Belichick this year. I think he's gonna. To some extent, the only thing that.

[Big Cat]

Shocks me like that I did think he wanted that Shula record, but maybe he also was like, Andy Reed is hot on his tails. And Andy Reed's gonna. Like, if you go. If Bill Belichick goes, takes over another NFL team, there's no guarantee they're going to win 12 games a year. Andy Reid's almost guaranteed 12 games to win a year, and he's.

[Memes]

I think he's a control freak.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It also would be a crazy, like.

[Memes]

And he's a family man.

[Big Cat]

Well. And it also would be like his legacy is already cemented as one of, if not the best coach of all time if he does successful in college. That's, like, insane. He's like, oh, I did. I just did it for fun.

[PFT Commenter]

His girlfriend going to enroll at grad school. Cool.

[Memes]

Maybe.

[Big Cat]

I think she probably already is.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Cardinals. I like the Cardinals.

[Memes]

I don't disagree. I think they need this game.

[Big Cat]

I also think they're going to be able to run the ball, and that's like, the big thing. The Cardinals can run the ball. Everything else works.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I agree. I think. I think the Cardinals by a decent margin in this game. If Kyler can stop turning the ball over because he's had. He had two last week and then one or two interceptions each in the previous two games. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He needs to stop turning the ball over.

[Big Cat]

Kyler. Stop turning the ball over. Okay. Colts at Broncos. Broncos -4 over under 44. This is a crazy swing game in the playoff picture. So the Colts, if they win this game, will have a 66% chance of making the playoffs with a loss, they'll have an 11% chance. And the Broncos, with a win, will have an 89% chance of making the playoffs in a 42% chance with a loss. So. Holy shit. It means a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of rooting for the Colts in this just to keep more chaos in the. In the playoffs, because we don't this.

[Big Cat]

Is the first time in a while I feel like where we're kind of almost set other than this and, you know, I guess the Rams and Commanders, but it's not. There's not like a ton that's still up for grabs in the. In terms of we have, at least in both division or both conferences, five or six teams that are almost guaranteed set.

[PFT Commenter]

And if you're rooting for the Bengals to still be in the conversation at all, then you're definitely rooting for the Colts this weekend.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Memes]

No, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Hungry dog, Hank. Hungry Horse.

[Memes]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Colts. No. Riley Moss for the Broncos. That's. That's significant. Shane Steichen off a buy. Both teams are off a buy, right? Yeah, both teams are off a buy. I kind of like that, Hank. I don't know if they can win outright. Right. But Anthony Richardson, he's kind of showing me something.

[PFT Commenter]

Colton defense not that great recently.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Bo Nicks might go off. He is Bo Nicks. He's got so much dog, he makes people uncomfortable.

[PFT Commenter]

I want. I want the Colts to win this weekend, but I feel like it's the Bronco. The Broncos have been playing much better football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Though the other one that's significant in the afternoon, but not one of the marquee ones. Bucks at Chargers. Chargers minus two and a half over under 45 and a half. I need lad McConkey to play. That's really all I got.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. People are pissed off. Chargers fans are pissed off because Lad was left off of ESPN's list of top 10 rookies.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that is actually very. I would be pissed off. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So they're mad about that, and I think they're mad fairly. Not just because he should be on there, but when they listed what the, like, stats for each rookie were. Yeah, they had the wrong number of receptions and yards for him. I think they shortchanged by like 150, 200 yards.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So they were. Chargers fans are pissed off. They have every right to be pissed off. The Bucks, this is a big game for them.

[Big Cat]

Huge.

[PFT Commenter]

So if they.

[Big Cat]

Huge game for the Chargers.

[PFT Commenter]

Back to percentages. If the Bucks lose, their playoff chances are down to 59%. If they win, they're up to 87%.

[Big Cat]

And no Antoine Winfield, which is big. Also, do you guys know that Justin Herbert's only thrown one interception this year?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Was it 14 touchdowns? Week two, one pick. So he's gone 11 straight games with no interceptions.

[Big Cat]

Week two.

[PFT Commenter]

And I think.

[Big Cat]

Is.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that the record or he has, like, one more to Go.

[Big Cat]

I think he has one or one more to go.

[PFT Commenter]

So if he throws no picks against the Bucks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Then he has the record for most consecutive games started with like a minimum of 15 attempts, I think.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Also, the Bucks are going to want a blitz and Justin Herbert's the best quarterback in the NFL this year against the blitz. So what do. What do you got, Max?

[PFT Commenter]

Go talk us through the top 10 list here.

[Hank]

Just missed is the category that they have.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I don't agree with that.

[PFT Commenter]

And I think they updated those receiving yards for him because he used to be wrong. Yeah, those were lower. It was like 600 something.

[Big Cat]

Wait, Lab. McConkie just missed. And they did a top 10 with 11 because they have a tied for 10th.

[Hank]

Yep. Brian Thomas and Cooper Jean.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I mean, those guys are both. Marvin Harrison. I don't think Marvin. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Marvin Harrison shouldn't be on there.

[Big Cat]

Joe Alt. Yep, that makes sense. Zach Frazier, Malik Neighbors.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Quinon, Mitchell, Bo.

[PFT Commenter]

Nick number four.

[Big Cat]

Jared versus Wait, hold on. Brock Bowers one. Brian Thomas is in there.

[Hank]

He was tied for ten.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he's tied for ten.

[PFT Commenter]

But he was the first.

[Big Cat]

I missed it. That's crazy.

[Hank]

Yeah, he's been good rookie class.

[Big Cat]

Good rookie class.

[PFT Commenter]

He should be in there instead of Marvin Harrison. Yeah, Marvin Harrison. 45 receptions.

[Big Cat]

Brian Thomas also has been very consistent.

[Hank]

Like Caleb Williams also. Just missed.

[Big Cat]

Just missed. Okay. I got no issues with that. Except for Lad. Lad should be on there.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know if Brock should be number one.

[Big Cat]

He's broken records in his position.

[PFT Commenter]

He's great. But quite literally, what's the most important position in the NFL? Probably tight end.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Oh, yeah. Bucks. Chargers. I kind of like the Chargers.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of like the Bucks. Kind of like the Bucks. Quite. I. I don't know. What are they going to do with Bucky Irving? Is he going to play? Are they going to dangle Bucky around for us again?

[Big Cat]

They're going to screw us.

[PFT Commenter]

We're going to have to file a lawsuit.

[Big Cat]

They might screw us.

[PFT Commenter]

They might.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Max. Steelers and Eagles. Eagles minus five and a half. Over. Under is 43. Will Jalen hurts play better?

[Hank]

He said that he will.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, how do you say that?

[Hank]

He said that? I do well when I'm. When criticized or something like that.

[PFT Commenter]

So he's saying that. Wait, so then Brown's criticizing.

[Hank]

Wrong. He said that when the media and the fans are criticizing AJ Brown did.

[Big Cat]

Say BG was just being bg talking about Brandon Graham, which means everything Brandon Graham said was correct.

[Hank]

Jordan my lotta had the Best response to it. He was just joking around, saying he was like, I'm happy that I'm happy to be talking. Talking about it now because the more we can talk about it now, the more we can eliminate and just focus on the Steelers.

[Big Cat]

Sound like a joke.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good spin zone.

[Hank]

No, at first he. Well, they start off, he's like, you guys think I did the. You guys think I spread the rumor? You guys think I spread the rumor? And then he was joking and started. Then he went down.

[PFT Commenter]

Classic Jordan. My lotta.

[Big Cat]

Are you nervous, Max? So the Steel. I like the Steelers in this game. Just because Mike Tomlin is an underdog. The. The Steelers have not won in Philadelphia since 1965. Been a long, long time and. But Mike Tomlin is an underdog. We've said it a million times, 65% against the spread. He's5.0 this year, straight up and against the spread. So every time he's been an underdog this year they've won straight up. And more than anything, this is. I. Max, I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this. This feels like it could be a recipe for disaster where you have an entire week of everyone being like, the passing game's broken. Jalen hurts, doesn't look good. So now he's like, I'm going to play better, I'm going to throw it more, versus a really good Steelers defense.

[Hank]

I don't think that that's necessarily going to be the case.

[Big Cat]

You think they're going to try?

[Hank]

They're still going to run the ball.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a very good defense, though.

[Hank]

Yeah, correct. And we have a very good defense. And their own. Their best weapon is out. So that's. Where are they going to score?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, they got other receivers.

[Hank]

Mike Williams, who's.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You played good last weekend. Okay, it sounds like you're overlooking the Steelers.

[Hank]

I'm not overlooking the Steelers, but the way it seems like you're underlooking the Eagles.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I don't think we are at all.

[Hank]

I mean, you just went for 10 Steelers.

[Big Cat]

They're under looking. The.

[PFT Commenter]

The Eagles are favored.

[Hank]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

So how can we underlook them?

[Big Cat]

We're underlooking the Steelers or the Eagles? Yeah, we're underlooking them.

[PFT Commenter]

We just said that Pittsburgh hasn't won in Philly since 1965. They've lost 10 straight.

[Hank]

I know, but you were saying that as like, I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Are you. How are you feeling on this game?

[Hank]

I feel good.

[Big Cat]

You feel good?

[Hank]

I feel good.

[Big Cat]

You Feel strong?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You feel confident?

[Hank]

Yeah, I should. I feel confident every week.

[Big Cat]

Jerry said he wasn't going to bring his gun.

[Hank]

Jerry doesn't feel confident.

[Big Cat]

Jerry said he was not going to bring his gun to the game.

[Hank]

That was nice of him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You can tell Jerry when I'm scared of.

[Big Cat]

I'm.

[Hank]

I'm. I'm scared of Jerry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What do you mean you're scared of Jerry?

[Hank]

He's.

[PFT Commenter]

You should be.

[Hank]

If you. If you have to clarify that you're not going to bring your gun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, but he said. He said, I'm not going to bring my gun.

[Hank]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

So that's. That should make you not scared of Jerry. Wow. How clear could it be when he's not bringing his gun?

[Hank]

I'm not going to bring a gun either.

[Big Cat]

There you go.

[PFT Commenter]

No, when Jerry doesn't say that before game, that's when you should be terrified.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you should. When he says he's not gonna bring his gun, it's like, damn, all right, great. Like, it's not even the point.

[Hank]

Like, he told me that in the con, in the context of, if I bring my gun, I may shoot you.

[Big Cat]

So I'm not going to bring my gun.

[PFT Commenter]

You can tell Jerry's nervous, though, because he. He is doing the thing where he walks around and he's just telling everybody. I don't think George Pickens is going to play at all for the rest of the year. He's like, out. He's. According to Jerry, George Pickens has retired from the NFL.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because his hamstring hurts. Max, can I. Can I overlook you? Can I stop underlooking you for a second with a stat?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Overlook him.

[PFT Commenter]

And I love these stats. The rushing yards, leaders. Saquon Barkley is in first.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

We know that. 1,623. Second place, Derek Henry with 1,407 yards. You know who third place in the NFL is?

[Hank]

Saquon Barkley in the second half.

[PFT Commenter]

Saquon Barkley before contact.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

With 1175.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

So your offense, your offensive line has done a very, very, very good job for your boy Quan, as you call him.

[Hank]

Yeah. I mean, good offensive line, good running back, good run game.

[PFT Commenter]

Jacob Nero, by the way, that's his stat.

[Big Cat]

Steelers have a very good defensive line.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Jalen hurts is take sacks on his own slide.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you worried about TJ Get. Are you worried about TJ Watt hitting? Jalen hurts very hard.

[Hank]

Elaine Johnson.

[Big Cat]

What about Alex Highsmith?

[Hank]

Jordan, My Lotta.

[Big Cat]

What about Nick Herbig?

[Hank]

I don't know. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

What, you want me to run out of guys?

[Big Cat]

You just.

[Hank]

No, I. Yeah, but I just. I also don't know where that guy plays, so I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you worried about getting rusty?

[Hank]

That I'm worried about.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be an awesome game. I'm so excited for it.

[PFT Commenter]

Should we talk about the Steagalls at all?

[Big Cat]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

So, the Steagles, the team that was put together during World War II. A combination effort between the Steelers.

[Big Cat]

What did you just say?

[PFT Commenter]

Would Meme say what meme says?

[Big Cat]

I keep accidentally ordering hot chocolate. Oh, how many hot chocolates you got? Oh, no.

[PFT Commenter]

How do you accidentally order hot chocolate?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that sounds like something you've ordered before. You order hot chocolate as an adult. No.

[Hank]

Yeah, I did take a couple sips of this hot chocolate.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[Hank]

It's fire.

[Big Cat]

But you. But you. You. You don't accidentally order hot chocolate if you haven't ordered a hot. Like, you've just been reordering. What? You always order hot chocolate. No. How do you accidentally order a hot chocolate? It said hot, and then I large, and then I pressed hot and large. You just missed the middle word. The actual.

[Hank]

But he made a mistake once, and then he did it again.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, on the same day in the.

[Hank]

Same episode of this podcast?

[Big Cat]

And I had Pug get it twice.

[PFT Commenter]

Where are you ordering these from?

[Big Cat]

No free ads.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, but you've placed the same wrong order twice in a row.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

30 minutes.

[Big Cat]

Correct. It's a place down the street.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, stop looking at the sun memes.

[Big Cat]

All right, well, Steagalls.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the Steagalls, they were team. Those put together 1943, I believe during World War II, when a lot of players had to be shipped overseas to go fight, the NFL tried to carry on. And they. They combined the Eagles and the Steelers into one team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Called the Steagalls. And they finished 5, 4, and 1, which is the Eagles first winning season officially, is how it's been written down in the record books. And I looked at some of their players that they had. Their leading receiver had 17 receptions, named Tony Bova, and he was blind in one eye.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Because in order to get out of serving In World War II, you usually had to have, like, a disability to become a Steagall.

[Big Cat]

You had to be the few, the proud.

[PFT Commenter]

Their center was deaf, and their kicker and punter, Troy Smith, had a fake leg. Oh, I would love to go back and find footage of this team. This team won five games.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

With A deaf receiver and a kicker with one leg. They also did a draft in 1940. I think it was in 1944. They drafted together and they. They selected a guy named Max Kielbasa. Fucking great name.

[Big Cat]

Max Kilbasa.

[PFT Commenter]

Great name.

[Big Cat]

That's literally just Max at lunch.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Or that's translates to Nick Foles.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I don't think I've ever had a Kielbasa.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you definitely.

[Hank]

I don't like. I don't even. Is it a brat? Is that also a brat?

[Big Cat]

You don't lie. You've had a lot of Kilbosses.

[Hank]

I don't know what to tell you.

[Big Cat]

Remember I. We made shirts back. That was actually a really cool shirt. It made no sense. We were just the. The Bears and the Eagles were both bad at the same time. And we made Philadelphia Beagles shirts.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Which would have been. That's a sick name.

[PFT Commenter]

It is sick.

[Big Cat]

Beagles. It was a cool shirt. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that dog.

[PFT Commenter]

It's chill.

[Big Cat]

That's a chill ass dog.

[PFT Commenter]

Just a chill guy.

[Big Cat]

Chilladelphia Beagles. Those are fucking cool ass beagles.

[PFT Commenter]

Do they still sell Steagall's merchandise?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't.

[Big Cat]

Beagles merchandise. Steagall's merchandise. Yeah, I'm sure, like, Canton probably has something. Oh, yeah. Do you think there's anyone wearing a Steagalls? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Are there any Steagalls still alive today?

[Big Cat]

No, probably not. I mean, there might be, but it would be. There's only. What? There's only 40 Steagalls? Well, yeah, they all have to get like. They'd be a hundred plus right now.

[PFT Commenter]

And it would have to be somebody that probably had a disability.

[Big Cat]

And it also had to be someone who played professional football in the 40s, which is also creates disabilities.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably not.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, probably not. Probably lost all of our Steagalls.

[PFT Commenter]

But I do want to see highlights. If there's any highlights out there of.

[Big Cat]

Steagall's games, they need to make a movie about this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Steagles. Okay. So, Max, you think they'll cover the five and a half?

[Hank]

I don't care about covering anything.

[Nick Foles]

All right.

[Big Cat]

I like the. I like the Steelers plus five and a half.

[Hank]

Okay, wait. Why is that funny?

[Big Cat]

It's just funny. I don't care about covering anything.

[Hank]

I know. I just want to win the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. The big one. The big Kahuna Bills at lions. Lions minus two and a half over under 50. Four and a half. Thoughts?

[PFT Commenter]

This is getting an awesome game. This my Thought on this game, is it fucking rocks that we're getting this game in week 15.

[Big Cat]

Rocks.

[PFT Commenter]

So you got two teams, double digit wins playing each other in week 15. The last time that happened was all the way back in 1985. So it fucking rocks.

[Big Cat]

Rocks.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a historically fucking rocks matchup.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. I'm contemplating a game of the year in this game.

[PFT Commenter]

Contemplating on the over. No, this is a very fun over.

[Big Cat]

It is. It'd be on the Buffalo Bills.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I love this game for the Bills.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Last week I had the Rams. I kind of saw that coming where it's like, hey, they just clinched the AFC east. They went all the way west. I think Josh is playing out of his mind. I think this is the week that the Lions, all their defensive injuries. I know they might be getting a couple guys back, but this is an elite, elite offense. And Aaron Glenn, I know this from experience because they'll. Justin Fields used to play well against lines. Aaron Glenn's defenses don't do well against running quarterbacks. He refuses to a spy. The only thing that's holding me back is I think that the Lions are gonna be able to run the ball. And like if I get into a situation where the Lions are just grinding them out and then Josh Allen scoring quick touchdown, then they're grinding them out. That feels scary. I'll know on Sunday if I have the balls to do it. I'd love it to get to three. I don't think it will.

[PFT Commenter]

What's the over under on this game?

[Big Cat]

54 and a half over. Yeah, over.

[PFT Commenter]

The funnest over possibly.

[Big Cat]

I should just do that as a game of the year.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean the game of the year.

[Memes]

Is you're going to do a game of the year.

[Big Cat]

I might not this weekend, Hank. It's called responsible gambling. But yes. Would there is a. People are like, oh, you're going to do a game of the year 12 hours after Travis Hunter wins the Heisman. Possibly.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's right. I need to recalibrate my thinking about this weekend.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Because my bank account, that's all I've been thinking about. I'm gonna have game of the year like Arsenal.

[Big Cat]

Basically. Someone's just walking over and just. And just loading my gun with bullets and I'm just firing everywhere. I'm fast as I can.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm. I'm Ukraine right now.

[Big Cat]

What I.

[Hank]

This. I. I'm still nervous about Genti.

[Big Cat]

Don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

[Hank]

Yeah, but it doesn't matter. We still don't know.

[Big Cat]

All right, here's something. Here's something that will help you ready? Travis Hunter won the AP College football player of the year, and every player who's won that has won the HEISMAN Since Christian McCaffrey.

[PFT Commenter]

And that award goes out to the best football player of the year, I would imagine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Although Genti did win the Maxwell, that's just fine. Okay. I'm a little nervous.

[Hank]

There's so many people on Twitter that keep saying that. That Genty.

[PFT Commenter]

When I hear Maxwell, I think second place.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, true.

[Hank]

That's. That's my. That's my name.

[Big Cat]

I mean, listen, I, I, if, if.

[PFT Commenter]

That'S a coincidence, I have to go to.

[Big Cat]

I have to go to a Christmas party on Saturday night, and I'm going to have to ask for them to put on the Heisman Trophy ceremony while I stand, like antisocial, just staring at a TV with probably no sound on it. This is. I'm. I'll just go home. I'll just leave.

[PFT Commenter]

If this happens, I think me and Blake might get dressed up in suits.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And sit down on the couch like we're the family and watch this game. But.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you reminded me. I. I'm Ukraine right now. I have no bullets left. And then there's a. There's a shipment coming over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Joe Biden's about to come and give us a little package.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Sunday, you better watch out. NFL.

[Big Cat]

That's why I'm saying game of the year might be on. But I. This feels scary because it's like this. The Lions are so good. I'm not saying that. No game of the year, it's going to be a nuclear missile whale play. Okay. Let's just do that. Bill's nuclear missile whale play is what I'm going to do. And we'll save a game of the year for maybe the playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

Possible super bowl preview.

[Big Cat]

Possible super bowl preview. This would be my dream super bowl matchup in terms of fans in New Orleans. Holy. Would it rock? Just like partying with Lions and Bills fans all week also would be heartbreaking.

[PFT Commenter]

For whoever lost that game.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

But also maybe the most merchandise ever sold the day after the super bowl, regardless of fan base.

[Big Cat]

I threw out this trivia question the other day. Last time, if it was Bill's Lions, when was the last time there was a chance for a first time super bowl winner? Double chance for first time super bowl winner.

[PFT Commenter]

The Indians and the Cubs.

[Big Cat]

No super bowl. And also no.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. It's like 100 years.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Double chance. First.

[Big Cat]

First time Super Bowl. So you want go the super bowl guarantees a first time super bowl winner.

[Memes]

Patriots. Rams.

[Big Cat]

No, close.

[Memes]

Box. Ravens.

[PFT Commenter]

Rams. Titans.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Patriots. Rams. Rams have won the year before.

[Memes]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Rams. Titans. This would be fun. I mean, it doesn't happen very often. I hope it doesn't happen very often. Where you get a chance for you guaranteed chance for a new super bowl winner. Yeah, I. So the other parts about the Bills, Keon, Coleman and Kincaid, I think will be back. That might be. That might push me over the. Over the ledge of saying I'm gonna have to take it. Josh Allen's also good against the blitz. Aaron Glenn's going to want to blitz. He's going to want to. You know, like I said, running quarterbacks, not the best. And I just think the Lions, I mean, the defense of the Lions is good, but it's also been very banged up. And this is. The Bills offense is one of the top, what, three, like the most elite offenses. So I mean, the Lions obviously have one as well. I'm just excited for this game. I'm so pumped up for this game. I should not, I should not make a game of the year because I want to. I could not bet on this game. This game is going to be so awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not true.

[Big Cat]

I could not.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you couldn't.

[Big Cat]

Just like Jerry could not bring his gun.

[PFT Commenter]

I bet you. I bet you $1,000 that you'll bet on this game.

[Big Cat]

I'm not going to take that bet.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought that there was a chance that you could not bet on this game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm not going to take that bet.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. That's a great bet that I just offered.

[Big Cat]

Nuclear missile whale play.

[PFT Commenter]

It's offered you a thousand dollars to not lose money. Money.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, because the minute I say yes, you're going to be like, well, you just bet on this game.

[PFT Commenter]

I would have said that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You're not Max.

[Big Cat]

I'm not Hank. I'm not Max. I'm not mean. Max would have fallen for that. Come on. In a second. In a second. They would have walked right into that. Okay, last game, Seahawks, Cardinals. Did you guys see that? The sea. The Seahawks are plus 2 1/2 over unders 45 and a half. Wait, Seahawks or, sorry, Packers. Packers at Seahawks. Seahawks plus two and a half over under 45 and a half. Did you see the Seahawks are calling their defense the death zone? Okay, how you like that?

[PFT Commenter]

In what way are they at the death zone? Is that like on a mountain?

[Big Cat]

You just Die when you go up against them.

[PFT Commenter]

Once you get up a certain altitude.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they have been really good.

[PFT Commenter]

I like Legion of Spoon better.

[Big Cat]

Legion of Spoon. Oh, no. Death Zone. What?

[PFT Commenter]

Death Zone?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta earn Death Zone.

[Big Cat]

Legion of Spoon.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No way. In terms of intimidation. Death.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta earn Death Zone, though, though.

[Big Cat]

Death Zone.

[PFT Commenter]

Death Zone rocks. If you're an elite defense that is, like, dominating people.

[Big Cat]

They have been in since the buy. They've been since the top. Top five. And, well, that. This is a name that's come about since the buy.

[PFT Commenter]

So we entered the Death zone after the buy.

[Big Cat]

They have just started being the death zone.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So, yeah, I like it. Also, a reminder, the NFC north, which just goes against what I just said about the Bills, but the NFC north is 28 and three outside of the division. Division. Yep. Or, sorry, the Packers, Vikings and Lions are 28 and three outside of the division.

[PFT Commenter]

Those three teams.

[Big Cat]

Those three teams. Not the NFC North. Not the Bears.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not the whole division.

[Big Cat]

Not the Bears. Definitely not the Bears.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I like. I like the Seahawks, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This is one of those games. I'm sure we all have them, but if you have a certain matchup, you just think of, like, the iconic, like, they had to fail Mary. And then obviously the NFC Championship Game. It's fun when you have these matchups where you can immediately be like, oh, yeah, I've seen this. And it was fucking crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

You just might. Yeah, this might just be a wild ending to a game.

[Big Cat]

Right, right. You just have wild endings in your head when you see that matchup. This is going to be a great afternoon of football, boys.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't wait for it.

[Big Cat]

Max is stressed.

[Hank]

I wish one of those games was in at the noon.

[Big Cat]

I do, too. They could have given us. Well, no, they couldn't. Given us Bucks, Chargers. They couldn't. They could have given us Lions. It would have been nice. I would have taken Lions, Eagle Steelers. I would have taken Eagle Steelers. That would actually been the perfect Sunday if Eagle Steelers and you swap out, like, the jets and the Jags, put them in the afternoon. Just forget about it. Set it and forget it. Okay. TD parlay. Do it on DraftKings. Every day is game day at DraftKings sportsbook. And now through the end of the year, it's extra special. All customers get a special daily promo promo every single day from profit boosts, odd boosts, no sweat bets and more. There's something for everyone. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app now. Use code take. That's code take. And take. Advantage of special daily promotions only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- Gambler 800-327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org in Massachusetts. In New York, call 877-8-HOPE NY or text Hopeny 467-369. Please gamble responsibly in Connecticut. Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org or visit billing help.org in Maryland, 21 and over in present in most states 18 and over in Washington, D.C. kentucky, New Hampshire or Wyoming. Offer void in Ontario. Void were prohibited. Eligibility restrictions apply. Terms@sportsbook draftkings.com promos on behalf of Boothill Casino and Resort in Kansas. One plus promotion per day promotion. Sport eligibility and requirements vary. Ends 1231, 24. Sponsored by DraftKings. So I'm gonna sit out you guys. Pick conviction.

[Memes]

Amon Ross. St. Brown.

[Big Cat]

Like it? A.J.

[Hank]

Brown.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

This is crazy. Rashad White.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Brown, Brown, white, brown, Brown, White, Brown, white, Brown. Oreo. Kind of.

[Hank]

Yeah, I like it.

[Big Cat]

All right. What.

[Memes]

The. They're not Twinkies. They're Ho Ho Ho Ho Hos.

[Big Cat]

The Ho Ho. This is the Ho Ho. Brown, Brown, Brown, White, Brown. All right, so it's Amon Ran, Rashad white, and then A.J. brown. All right, good luck, boys. I'm gonna. I'm gonna bet it. I'm riding.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's go.

[Big Cat]

Sorry again to everyone last week. Okay, let's do our picks. Our picks. We're so bad. I think we're. Are we all under 500 collectively?

[Memes]

A lot.

[Big Cat]

Yikes. Yikes. Who's up first? That'd be me. I feel like you went first last week. Hank went first. I feel like it was you.

[PFT Commenter]

Sure.

[Big Cat]

Yes. I feel like that was you.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes. What about the graphic that you put out besmirching my NBA cup reputation?

[Big Cat]

My apologies. I don't make that graphic. You don't make a lot of graphics, huh, buddy? I make memes. My name is Memes. Because every time there's a graphic, you're like, I don't make that one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I. I mean, putting 0 and 3 up there when it was not owing 3 is a dirty move.

[Hank]

No, that was McCarthy's fault.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a scumbag.

[Hank]

Yep. Everyone knows that.

[Big Cat]

My apologies. I'll take the jets minus three. Okay.

[Hank]

I am going to take Colts, Broncos, under 44.

[Big Cat]

Ooh.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, interesting. I'm going to take the Arizona Cardinals minus six. Love that number six.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna take the Buffalo Bills. Plus two and a half.

[Memes]

I'm going to take the over in that game. 54 and a half.

[Big Cat]

Like it.

[Memes]

And I'm going to take the.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Box. Plus two and a half.

[Big Cat]

Box. Plus two and a Half. Okay, you know what? Give me the over 46 and a half. Patriots, Cardinals.

[PFT Commenter]

Give me what's. I didn't look at the weather.

[Big Cat]

What do you need? I got you.

[PFT Commenter]

I need the Cleveland weather forecast.

[Big Cat]

Don't have. Have it. Thought I had you. If you had asked me Seattle, I would have said rain.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm. Can I. Can I ask Max to bring up the weather forecast?

[Big Cat]

Yes. Sunday. Rain.

[PFT Commenter]

Sunday.

[Big Cat]

Should have said rain. No, that's. Yeah, that's maybe rain.

[PFT Commenter]

That's grapple.

[Big Cat]

That's could be rain.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, I'm going to stay away. Glad I looked at the weather forecast. I'm going to take the over in The Commie Saints 44.

[Big Cat]

Nice. Dome.

[PFT Commenter]

Dome.

[Hank]

I will take the Bengals minus 5 against the Titans.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Memes. I will do Texans, dolphins over 46 and a half. Okay, and a reminder. Let me see the standings again. We got to remember for standings, we got to start going back to the point system because that makes it a lot easier to follow. Memes has 14 points. Hank has 13 and a half points. I have 13 points. Points. PFT has 12 points. Max has 11 and a half points. So it's anyone's game.

[Hank]

Anyone's game.

[Big Cat]

It's anyone's game. We are all within. Yeah, we're all within two and a half points. Whoa. That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

We're all so, so bad together, which I appreciate.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it would be really a bummer if one of us was just like insanely good right now or one of us was insanely, insanely bad. We all just are, like, bad.

[Hank]

We're very bad, but we're not insanely bad.

[Big Cat]

Right. We're all. We're all. Well, no, Memes is bad. Hank is bad. I'm really, like, not really bad. I'm. I'm really bad. PFT is really bad. Max, you're really bad. Getting close to insanely bad.

[Hank]

I'm a half. I'm.

[Big Cat]

I'm just telling you what the records are saying, buddy.

[PFT Commenter]

Look, I don't get it wrong.

[Hank]

Wait, I'm a half.

[Big Cat]

But look at it.

[Hank]

I'm half a point behind BFD.

[Big Cat]

But he's 12 and 17. You're 11. 17. 17. 1.

[Hank]

How are you and PFT the same when you guys are a full point away from each other?

[Big Cat]

And because 13 and 12 look very similar. 11. 11 looks as a different.

[Hank]

But it's 11 and a half.

[Big Cat]

But 13, not. 13 and 12 look very similar number wise. 11 is totally an outlier.

[Hank]

But you're forgetting about the half.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I get that.

[PFT Commenter]

But Max, you just have to accept where you are right now. By the time next week comes around, I might be insanely bad. Bad. Like If I go 0 and 2, 12 and 19, I would say that's insanely bad. Yeah, I think like that's. That's pretty much I'm losing almost twice as much as I'm winning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, 13 and 18. I'd be insanely bad.

[Hank]

I also feel horrible about my picks this weekend.

[Big Cat]

What were they again?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, one was bad.

[Hank]

Bengals minus five.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's a bad pick.

[Big Cat]

What was the other one?

[Hank]

Colts, Broncos. Under 44.

[Big Cat]

That's a bad pick.

[Hank]

I mean, you.

[Big Cat]

No, I actually like the Bengals pick.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I hate the. It's a bad pick.

[Big Cat]

I like that pick. Good pick.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a bad pick.

[Hank]

Anyone could be in last other than memes. Anyone could be in last place at the start of next week.

[Big Cat]

And also for the awl's sake, me and Hank could be memes is the one that everyone should be rooting against or. Or rooting for. Why do you. I don't think they want you at your bachelor party. Why?

[PFT Commenter]

You've never.

[Nick Foles]

No.

[Big Cat]

You're a fun guy. Yeah, you're. But yeah. Imagine going to the bachelor party and having them just like bust your balls the entire time.

[Hank]

Me and Hank would also be boring.

[Big Cat]

No. Oh, no, no. That's.

[Hank]

But we're both in bachelor party age. I'm saying for the last.

[Big Cat]

That's why you'd be great.

[PFT Commenter]

You'd be great, Max.

[Hank]

But it would funniest outcome would be either.

[Big Cat]

I understand the funniest. But I also would not like. I have. I could. I could. If I would find a way to.

[Memes]

Go for like six hours.

[Big Cat]

If I went on a bachelor party. I have. I. I'm like. I got. I got four innings of like, like low 90s fast.

[Hank]

You would do a Chicago Bastard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I go to a Cubs game. We go to a Cubs game. I'd get drunk. I'd go home.

[Memes]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

I'd have to travel. I'd have to travel.

[PFT Commenter]

I would be a lot of fun. For one night. Yeah, one night. And then after that night's over, I'm. I'd just be miserable.

[Hank]

We have various.

[PFT Commenter]

Be talking about different aspects of my hangover for the next seven hours.

[Hank]

We have very few details. We have like we have, have. We haven't put out any ground rules to this.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank might just not come back. Hank might have such a great time on your bachelor party that he just goes wherever you go.

[Hank]

He's just hoping it's a golf trip.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Max, you'd be fun on the party.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

We also need to figure out who's film filming, whatever that's later thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's whatever. Forget it. All right, let's. Let's do fancy boys before we get to an awesome interview of Nick Foles in studio Fantasy Boys brought to you by body armor. This segment is brought to you by Body Armor. Real hydration, real ingredients packed with electrolytes, vitamins, and nothing artificial. Body armor sports drink has great tasting flavors like strawberry banana and blue raspberry. Not only do we hydrate with body armor, but some. Some of the best athletes in the world do as well, like Christian McCaffrey, Joe Burrow, and Sabrina Ionescu. Get yours today. Walmart or local grocery store near you. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Memes]

My name is Mario Mangione.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, Mario.

[Big Cat]

Mario.

[Memes]

My stardom is Greeks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Memes]

Oh, wait, that was my syndrome. Fuck it.

[Big Cat]

Greeks. Greek freak.

[Memes]

Giannis Bucks are playing good. Greeks are back. Fucking love Greeks.

[Big Cat]

Alpha males.

[Memes]

Gyros. Yeah, my situm.

[PFT Commenter]

YouTube TV, they're jacking up the price.

[Big Cat]

They banged us.

[Memes]

I just made the switch to YouTube TV this week and they fucking yacked up the price.

[PFT Commenter]

$9 a month.

[Memes]

Some absolute it is.

[PFT Commenter]

When they started, it was $40.

[Memes]

Cord cutters.

[Big Cat]

They.

[Memes]

They should have just kept stuck with cable. It's a show now. You gotta have every app you gotta pay out of your ass.

[Big Cat]

I would pay.

[PFT Commenter]

I would pay a lot of money to have just one app.

[Memes]

And my.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, wait, X. The everything app.

[Big Cat]

Love it.

[PFT Commenter]

It's all happening on X.

[Memes]

My sleeper is Hawk tour. She did a spaces she was getting called out. She said, I'm going to sleep. Ah, haven't heard from her since. So she's sleeping, she's having a good time.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I thought that was a respectful way to get out of a very awkward conversation. Just being like, I'm tired, I'm tired.

[Big Cat]

I'll see you guys tomorrow. It was like a cartoon voice too.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Respect, respect.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, she makes the money. Hey, you make it the money.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, this is Luigi Mangione.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Luigi.

[PFT Commenter]

Just heard from my brother Mario. I'm starting the McRib.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it's back. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

If loving the McRib is a crime, then lock me up and throw away the key. I just want to get a McRib. That's why I go to McDonald's.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

It's great. I'm sitting. I'm sitting in a jail cell right now. And then my sleeper this weekend. It's winter. Jack Frost is my sleeper this weekend. I woke up this morning, my balls was up in my stomach. Stomach. It had no balls.

[Big Cat]

No balls.

[PFT Commenter]

No balls at all. Like, no castrated ball. Wasn't that bad.

[Big Cat]

It was bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Then I had a Luigi.

[Big Cat]

You're Mario. You're tougher.

[PFT Commenter]

I had a friend. I had a friend last year. He said, chicago winner. Not that bad. Kind of a.

[Big Cat]

That was Mario.

[PFT Commenter]

That was Mario.

[Big Cat]

Today wasn't that bad. Mario's staying with it. He's sticking with it.

[PFT Commenter]

This. This winner's bad.

[Memes]

Get a coat, dude.

[Big Cat]

You talk.

[PFT Commenter]

You talk to the wrong guy.

[Memes]

I ain't scared.

[PFT Commenter]

You're not made. You thought you was made.

[Memes]

I was born, and I was born in the winter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I am one.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you.

[Big Cat]

You were born. You're born June, bro. Bro, you born in June.

[PFT Commenter]

June, June. Still Australian winter.

[Big Cat]

That ain't winner. What's up? It's Wario.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, what's up, Wario?

[Big Cat]

My stardom this week is our. Our pal. I can't remember her name. Is it Libby or something? The girl who took a thousand, thousand, thousand dicks. Yeah, she's a hundred dicks.

[PFT Commenter]

She's the world's guma.

[Big Cat]

That was something.

[PFT Commenter]

You watched the documentary about her?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

The cockumentary.

[Big Cat]

No, it was sad.

[PFT Commenter]

It was very, very sad.

[Big Cat]

I ain't watching that.

[PFT Commenter]

It was sad.

[Big Cat]

My situm is lasagna. I think it's overrated. I like a little pasta. Just lasagna. Too much. Too much going on.

[Memes]

I've never liked lasagna.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a bad take.

[Memes]

I don't like ricorda.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't like lasagna?

[Big Cat]

Hate lasagna. My sleeper this week is Josh Allen touchdown machine that.

[PFT Commenter]

Rock it off, Mario.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna win. Noise up, Mario.

[PFT Commenter]

I think so.

[Big Cat]

What does Wario say?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna win.

[Big Cat]

It's a Mia Wario.

[PFT Commenter]

The. The documentary thing about that girl, it's just. She was like. They interviewed the dudes. The dudes were like, yeah, you. Can.

[Big Cat]

You. Can you watch it?

[PFT Commenter]

I saw clips.

[Big Cat]

You watched it?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I saw clips.

[Big Cat]

I think he watched it, guys.

[PFT Commenter]

I did not watch it, and I don't think it was. I don't think that there was porn in it if you did watch it.

[Big Cat]

No, I. I think the, like, the sadness of it it's very.

[PFT Commenter]

The clips I saw in the porn. The clips I saw, she was like crying afterwards. Bad choice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And somehow my algorithm is just. It's like Luigi memes and the woman who took a TH000.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, she took a. I think she took 100. She wants to take a TH000.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I just. I want to know more about the. The order that the guys got put in when they went there. If you just showed up and you were put in a waiting room or if there was a lottery ball. Like the NBA draft.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're a virgin, you get to go first. I don't know. I don't know how it work.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Crazy. Crazy. Okay. Should we get to our interview?

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe that's what Lamar Jackson was talking about.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. That is what he saw.

[PFT Commenter]

Because that's what I thought when I saw it. Like, the Internet was a bad idea.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do you guys really you. I lasagna. Just like, in terms of pastas, it's great. I'm not a lasagna fan neither.

[PFT Commenter]

Lasagna.

[Hank]

It depends on the lasagna. If there. It's. It is. Is easy to up lasagna. And it's just much going on lasagna. It's like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Fuego.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it might be like a good lasagna. Might be my favorite Italian dish. Dish.

[Big Cat]

No, no, you.

[PFT Commenter]

You just haven't. You're telling yourself for never eating good lasagna.

[Big Cat]

No, I've had good lasagna. I just don't. It's just too much. I just like. You gotta. Yeah, I gotta go make me some. Make some.

[PFT Commenter]

You've offended the booth.

[Big Cat]

Me some lasagna. Okay. Let's get to our interview with Nick Foles. Yeah. Yeah. You got a couple ads. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. He is super bowl champion, legend forever in Philadelphia.

[PFT Commenter]

Super Bowl MVP.

[Big Cat]

Super Bowl MVP. Played, played a bunch of different places. Nick Foles, QB1 in studio. First of all, welcome, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for coming here. Have you had, have you been harassed by any of our Philly fans yet? Because they're lingering like the buzz of Nick Foles in the office was we said it I think a couple days ago and all the philosophy Philly fans were like, oh, my God, I got to wear my best Kelly green shirt. Like, Nike shoes and. And all that stuff. They dressed up for you.

[Nick Foles]

They did. And I wouldn't say harassed. I'd say it's love.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Nick Foles]

You know, it's just, you know, there's that Philly love. There's something we were talking about last night. When you, You've been a part of Philadelphia, you're from Philadelphia. There's just something special about it. And, you know, I know you being a Bears fan.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

You're. You're longing for that. It's been since the mid-80s.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

So, you know, we've had it more recently and we're. Eagles are doing pretty good right now, so there's a lot of love to go around.

[Big Cat]

It was. I mean, he walked in today and Paige was showing the inside of her shoes to him.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Hey, like, look at this type of green I got.

[Nick Foles]

Hey, you know what? Inside the shoes, it's like the streets of Philly, of South Philly, the heart of Philly. I mean, Nike did those shoes, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. You gotta show them.

[PFT Commenter]

If there's one city to be a legend in, I feel like Philadelphia would be a pretty good one. One.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

I mean, it's. It's a. It's an awesome city. I mean, if any of y'all have ever been to a game in the link, I mean, it is a amazing place to be the home team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

If you're their way team, it sucks. But there's also a lot of places in the NFL it's that way. Right. You know, there's a lot of home field advantages, but Philly's amazing. You know, going back there, I'm not one to want all the limelight. So going back there and walking around and I love seeing everyone, but I'm not built for that. Like, I'm more of a laid back, like, even kill. Like, I don't mind going to the grocery store, not getting recognized and stuff.

[Big Cat]

So. Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

But it's a lot of love in Philly.

[Big Cat]

I mean, you have a statue, right?

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, there is one statue outside the stadium.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a good statue.

[Big Cat]

It's great.

[PFT Commenter]

There's been some bad statues recently.

[Nick Foles]

It looks like me. Yeah, it actually looks like me. There's been some statues the last several years that just aren't great. So whoever, you know, created the statues, it's fantastic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

An iconic moment that will. That will stand the test of time. That's got to be cool to think about. It's like Philadelphia will always Remember this one moment, moment, and you're, you're a hero forever in their eyes. And yeah, Philly fans, they can be a little bit over the top sometimes, but they also have your back. Were they ever down on you as a quarterback where you felt like the wrath of the Philly fans?

[Nick Foles]

I mean, I would say down, never the wrath. But yeah, I mean, I think part of being a Philadelphia athlete or quarterback is they're going to be down at you at times because you're not perfect. You're going to, you're going to throw interception, you're going to have some bad games. You might even have a length of bad games. And it's going to be tough. You're going to get booed. I mean, I've even had a great game and thrown like three incompletions. You're going to get a couple of boots.

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Nick Foles]

But I think you just have to start owning that and realize like that is the city and they, they have your back, they love you. But you also have to buy into that and you have to understand their perspective. Like blue car, hardworking city. Like, you know, their grandparents, their, their moms, their dads took them to games. Now they're taking their kids again. It's a generational, like place. So there's a lot of heart, a lot of heartbreak. And that's where like, the super bowl year was so special because we finally were able to break that heartbreak.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

And now there's a Super Bowl. They want more, but. But that's just part of it. You got to understand that.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that maybe you screwed up by that one season that you had? I forget how many interceptions there were. Just like a few. Just two interceptions, right. Over the course of one year, 27 and two. 27 touchdowns, two interceptions. Was that a mistake on your part to do that? Because you set the expectation. So if you perfect football, you throw like nine interceptions. The next year they're like, this guy sucks.

[Nick Foles]

You know what? It was amazing having that year and I was having so much fun playing in chip system. It's like playing basketball. You're just, you know, letting it rip, playing point guard. And then, you know, it was different, you know, the next year, halfway through the season, I got injured, but I think I had thrown like 10 interceptions. Everyone thought like the, everything was falling apart, but like I was still, like, we were still playing well, we were 6 and 2. But I think you do set expectations so high that you can't keep meeting that because there's always changes in the off Season, the offense starts evolving, coaches leave, players leave. So. But yeah, I think I definitely set expectations really high in 13.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And also, I would assume, like, is playing quarterback, you know, like, there's a element of luck to have that specific, like 27 and 2, you know, like, okay, a couple of them might have been dropped. That won't go my way next year.

[Nick Foles]

Oh, for sure. I mean, I had one, you know, we're going back in time, but I think it was after the seven touchdown game. We were in Green Bay and I threw like a post route down the middle to, to Djack, and I think it went through like two corner in a safety's hands and then just popped up and DJ Caught it and just walked in backwards. And I'm just like, all right, you just feeling it. You got to take the luck and the juice and that favor when it comes. But we had a lot of it that year and, you know, we were fortunate to, you know, unfortunately we didn't win the playoff game, but we still had a good year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, so. So your super bowl season, Carson Wentz gets hurt in that Rams game. You come in and you're like, what. What's going through your mind when you come in? Because you, you're a really good team. And that's a, It's a, It's a weird spot to be in, in the fact that you've been rolling as a team and you know that this team has big time aspirations. And now, now everyone's going to look at you and be like, all right, dude, don't this up. Was there. Did you feel that pressure? Were you like, this team is so good? I, I'm. I feel like almost supported by everyone.

[Nick Foles]

I mean, Carson, as we all know, was having an MVP caliber year that year. And then when he got hurt on the play, he actually stayed in, threw a touchdown the next play. And I knew something was wrong because I've been around him enough. I knew how. I know how tough he is. So I knew something was wrong when he came off and they took him up. I knew it was going to be probably bad just from being around him and knowing his toughness. And I, you know, your body, like, knows when something like that, like I'm about to step in. So all of a sudden the adrenaline changes, the nerves start coming, your stomach starts getting the, what we say, butterflies. And I think the key in that is I just took a moment, took a deep breath, you know, just said a prayer and just was like, you know what? I'm not going to be out there alone, I'm with 10 other guys in the huddle, and I have a great team around me. I need to do my job. I still have to execute at a high level. I can't just go out there and just sit there and hope someone else is going to make a play. I'm a quarterback. I have to make a play. But I also know there's like an acclamation period. So there was grace and understanding. But that was from my, you know, previous part of my career in playing football my whole life. Like, I think you have expectations to go out there and if you don't meet them, then all of a sudden gets in your head. I knew I would need to acclimate, so I gave myself grace and eventually it hit it the right time. But, yeah, I mean, the nerves start hitting. I'm human, man. The next day, I mean, I'm in a QB room, just Nate Subfeld and I watching film, and we know what's happened. We get the news about car person, and I say, we were watching film. We had the film on. We did not watch film that day because we were both going through emotions because we're. We're going to the playoffs, we have a great team. And then we realized it's on our shoulders. So we just talked about that and hashed it out as humans do, because it's a lot of pressure. But having that brother like Nate there during that time, you know, we developed such a brotherly bond that will last for life. But, yeah, I'm so grateful I had him. But that was the realness after the situation, it's like we're not in there, like, watching film. We're, like, dealing with the emotions of what is about to happen.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

So you get to the super bowl that year and you're going up against the Patriots. What did you. What were your feelings? What was the mentality that you had going into that game? Because the Patriots, obviously, dynasty, one of the greatest football teams of all time, right in the thick of their groove that they had. What was the mentality going to that game to prepare yourself to compete and eventually beat them?

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, I think the biggest thing leading up to that, I mean, you get a bye week before the super bowl, so you have that time at home to go through a normal prep week. So the biggest thing was preparation and then eliminating distractions. So a lot of going into the super bowl, there's a lot of hoopla, and then, you know, you got a lot of tickets and you're trying to get family there. So My wife was the instrumental part of, like, taking control of all that so I didn't have to deal with it so I could just focus on ball. Wasn't on my phone a lot. Wasn't like, you know, I might have talked to my dad once. I was just so locked in because we have so much respect for the Patriots, one of the greatest dynasties, if not the greatest dynasties in NFL sports history. We know what we're going against. So just the preparation, the hard work, you know, testing things at practice, being super aggressive at practice to test my limitations, and, you know, going into the game, I felt like we had a great preparation those two weeks. And, you know, we shredded all our papers and we hit all our stuff, and in the walk through, we had 13 to 15 guys. So if they did have cameras in the stadium, you know, we were set. So, like, when we do our walk through in the stadium, when we did our super bowl picture, like, like, we literally had 13 guys in the huddle and we just said, do whatever you want. And we're like, hiding. Simple place.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you had, like, decoy guys running.

[Nick Foles]

You know what? I think it's just, you know, understood that you want to take precautions. Like, even like when we got sheets of paper at the hotel, they're like, you done with that? I'm like, well, yeah, we got a new one. They'll give it to me. And they shred it right there.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Because Patriots are, like, going through your trash.

[Nick Foles]

Hey, you know what? Any, you know, the teams want the advantage. I mean, we see it in sports all the time. Every team's trying to find the advantage to get the upper hand. So, but going into the game, so much respect for the Patriots. But I, you know, Doug Peterson and, you know, even, like, when I play for Andy Reid, the biggest thing they talk about is faceless opponents. Like, don't, like, think about, like, who they are, their history, or what's on their helmet. Just like they're objects out there. So just treat them as objects and play them and do your job and just execute the play. So I just kept it simple.

[Big Cat]

All right, so I need an honest answer here. Was there any part of you when you got, you know, in the huddle, you're getting in the game, you're getting in the flow of the game. You're like, man, it would probably be a lot harder if Malcolm Butler was out there.

[Nick Foles]

You know what? I didn't even think about that. I, I was opponents. Yeah. I, I, I didn't even, like, even, like, you know, Gilmore out there. Like, who's one of the greatest DBs of all time? I didn't even think about it, really, because I had so much trust in my guys that I didn't really care who was on them. And I know afterwards that was a topic and everything. And, you know, Malcolm Butler, a great player, physical player. You know, they were talking about how he'd, you know, be up in the grill, holding on the guys, getting them off the line. But I still take Alshawn any day of the week or any of my guys. And I have so much respect for Malcolm. Like, that's not me taking a slide. That's just my mindset with them. And my. My teammates know that. Like, I would tell them, like, I don't care if there's two guys on you. Make a play, right? At worst case scenario, knock the dang ball down, but make a play. And I think when you tell your teammates that and they know that, that gives them a little bit extra juice when they're going there. But, hey, he's going to throw me the ball even if I'm covered. So I better just be ready and I better be aggressive.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And Alshaw was one of those guys who could make, you know, the play whenever he was covered, he would go up and get it and be physical. What the Philly special play. When that happens, we walk us through it because, I mean, it's still a really cool thing to watch. Even the mic'd up where it's like the moment where you guys kind of. I don't know if it was you or Doug who first said, hey, should we do this?

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Was it you?

[Nick Foles]

Yeah. I ran over there. We had a play call beforehand, and we call it timeout. So I ran over the Doug. And it just. You know, sometimes you have this instinct, like, hey, this play could work. You go run over to your coach almost like you're in high school or middle school, and you're like, hey, you know, you want Philly. Philly? And the headset goes quiet. You know, does got to make a decision. Like, he can say no, but I. You know, Doug was the quarterback coach. My. My quarterback coach my rookie year. He. He worked me out at Westlake High School. So there's a lot of history between me and Doug and a lot of trust. So I think in that situation, he knew that my instincts were, you know, he trusted it. I mean, if I'm going to go over there and ask for Philly. Philly, where I'm running a route, right? Trey's throwing the ball and Corey's pitching it to him, and we're doing the lane lane stuff. Like, he's probably thinking, like, if Nick's feeling confident about this right now, this is the one time we probably should run it. So I'm just grateful he allowed us to do it. And then, you know, going into the huddle, the biggest thing was just not to smile, because I was excited to run it, because I didn't think we'd be, like, talking about it here and I'd be signing Philly special autographs all the time.

[Big Cat]

For the rest of your life. Yeah. Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

It. It was a play that has a great name that just worked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

You just needed six points on fourth and one going into halftime. Like, I. To me, that's what that play was. It was not like, hey, I'm going to run this play, and I'm going to sign autographs for it after. It's like, no, no, no. This play will. They're not going to expect me to go on a route. They're going to be in man coverage. They're not going to account for me, and it's going to work. We just have to, you know, get the lane. Lane stuff. Cory's got to get the snap. There's a lot of moving parts in it.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Nick Foles]

But that was the best we ever ran it. And Trey threw an absolute dime.

[Big Cat]

Was there any part when the ball is in the air, we're like, don't fuck this up, because that is. It was so. You were so wide open.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And it was right there that it's like, that actually can happen where guys no doubt will, like, they'll stare at it for so long, they'll drop it.

[Nick Foles]

You know, previous in the game. This is no slight of him because, you know, Tom's the greatest.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

But Tom, they had ran a similar one. It was different, but, you know, a quarterback going out and pass and, you know, it was right where I was standing on the sideline. So, like, I saw it go through his fingertips and drop it in my mind. Mind that might have even put it, like, more at the forefront of my mind, watching him do it. Like, all right, we're going to get this called, but I'm going to make sure I look this thing in, and I don't care if I look like an idiot. I'm going to look it in like, I'm like, in elementary school.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Nick Foles]

And catch the ball. I just need to catch it. I don't want to drop it or act cool. Not that Tom was. I think Tom just had Taken a rib shot or something. So yeah, he was feeling it. But no, I, I felt confident. I mean I, you know, basketball player growing up, I, you know, they, the reason they had me going on routes because before every game I go out there catching one handed passes, throwing it all around like I'm a kid so I can get that like kid feel, warm up the body so I can catch the, the ball, one hand and all that. I was not going to do it on that play though. I was going to look that thing in and you see me, I make the triangle and everything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you did. It was like picture perfect. And yeah, you, you look like a 12 year old like trying to figure out how to, you know, catch a pass.

[Nick Foles]

So now when I coach you sports, I say even, you know, when you're in the Super Bowl, I'm making the triangle. I'm, I'm keeping my hands together. I'm not, you know, trying to do all this stuff. So I have a teaching photo and a teaching of me going out on route.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So when you guys practice that week, you said that was the best that you'd run? It was during the game.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Were you confident in the play like you had. How many times did you practice it beforehand?

[Nick Foles]

You know, we had it in before we played the Vikings in the divisional round. We put it in the bye week and you know, any great trick play, you know, Doug Peterson, Andy Reno say it needs marination. There's always like food terms with those guys, they love food. So marination, you got to let it set, marinate till it's ready. You know that, that does sound like Andy Reid. Right.

[Big Cat]

Last word.

[Nick Foles]

It comes from. So you know, we had it in and we probably ran at full speed maybe like twice the whole month and then walked through a few times. So it was. I don't even know if I asked Doug right now if he really thought he was going to call it that game. We had talked about it, but he might have just been making me feel better. I mean, I just talked to Jason Kelsey about it a couple weeks ago and he said when I called in the huddle, he's like, we're calling this play. So I didn't know he felt that way. But you now, now we can all look back and you know, be really happy about it. But that was the best we had ever ran it and you know, the best trade through it and everything.

[Big Cat]

The craziest part about that play, if you watch it back is too that it. Tory Smith was wide open as well.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, he was Not. I was the only option.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know you were the only option, but it was like such a well drawn up play. Like he was running over the middle, wide open.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, yeah, he's just. Alshawn's supposed to, you know, create confusion. Tori's supposed to create confusion, and then they're supposed to drop me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

And it worked like that.

[PFT Commenter]

So you mentioned Tom Brady and how he was not able to catch the ball earlier. But do you know that to this day, like, he has a hard time saying your name, you know, what his kryptonite. He just won't even acknowledge you.

[Nick Foles]

You know, I. And honestly, I think that's a, you know, a huge sign of. So I respect Tom so much, and I feel like that is his way of giving me respect. You know, I've actually had a time to FaceTime him, and he actually shared that, you know, there's just a lot of respect. And he, you know, he's such a competitor. There's a reason he's the grace of all time because he. He has those emotions. And, you know, he's not focusing on all his super bowl wins. He's focusing on where he could have been better. And that's why he's so great, and that's why, you know, I know even in broadcasting, he's, you know, working to continue to grow. I mean, everything he does, he's always working. That's, like, in his DNA. So I take it as a sign of respect for him. And, you know, that's saying a lot to have that from Tom.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there's. There was a famous clip in. In the Patriots documentary, the Dynasty Document documentary. Did you see that?

[Big Cat]

Where?

[Nick Foles]

I didn't watch it, but I heard some things.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so. So they had. They had the NFL Films.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Version of the Philly Special, and they put that in and he edited out foals. Like, the word foals has actually been removed from that as they broadcast. I think that's a pretty healthy mentality to have to be like, you know what? Tom Brady wouldn't do this about somebody that he isn't. That he doesn't respect. Because you beat him.

[Nick Foles]

No, for sure. And I, I. But I think you have to, like, realize that. I think at first you're like, oh, man. But then you realize. Realize, like, you know what? That is a sign of respect. So you just. It's perspective.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah.

[Nick Foles]

All admiration for Tom. And that's cool. You know, we, Like I said, We've FaceTimed since then, and I. I know for a Fact, it's just a, you know, he has a lot of respect for me and that means a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

He probably thinks about you all the time.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, yeah, I hope, I hope not. I don't think about it, so hopefully, hopefully he's thinking about better things than me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, she mentioned something there. When you're talking about like the, you know, you played basketball and you, that's how you'd warn, warm up. You. A lot of guys obviously in the NFL are like, yeah, this, I had another sport that I was really good at. You got recruited by Georgetown. You got offered by Georgetown, recruited, I.

[Nick Foles]

Would say, you know, I could have played potentially D1. I, I mean those guys are so dynamic though. I was a good basketball player.

[Big Cat]

No, I mean you, it sounds like you were a great basketball player. If those, if Georgetown, Baylor and Texas were all looking at you.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, they were all looking, you know, potentially would have had a chance to play at Baylor, but, you know, ended up at Michigan State my first year. But you know, basketball and football, you know, if you, there's just, there's such a different feeling when you step on the court, you know, basketball, I mean, football, when you're playing quarterback, like you're, you're trying to think about execution, you know, making sure, you know, you're always thinking about like, all right, protections, you gotta be protected first, all these different things. Basketball, you're just like, I'm gonna let it rip. You make a mistake on the basketball court, you can fix it on the defensive end and right, you know, all.

[Big Cat]

That possession is right.

[Nick Foles]

Football is very different. You know, football is very different. So there's a different emotion. My brother in law, you know, both of them played basketball in college. One, you know, was a two sport. Evan was a two sport athlete at Stanford, played in the NFL for five years, you know, as a tight end. And we talk about it all the time. Like, you know, going to the football game, you're just thinking about execution, doing your job. Basketball, you're just like going out there and just letting it rip.

[Big Cat]

So what was your game like?

[Nick Foles]

What was your, you know, I was all over the place. I was a big, you know, three point shooter, but obviously being, you know, six five and I was probably in high school, you know, 235. I take it down low, big, you know, aggressive with rebounding, a little bit of everything. Yeah, you know, definitely, you know, shot some threes.

[Big Cat]

When could you, when could you first palm a basketball? Because your hands are huge.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, I palmed it in middle school. First, first time I dunked. It was eighth grade.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Jesus.

[Nick Foles]

So that's pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty awesome.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So when you went to Michigan State, I know that Izzo likes to get basketball players sometimes to compete against the football team to like toughen them up and to learn how to rebound. Did you ever get that call?

[Nick Foles]

I never got that call. When I went to the University of Arizona, though, in the off season, you know, we did a lot of pickup ball. We had a lot of great basketball players on our football team. So we would scrimmage the basketball team at the rec center. So we had a lot of good battles with the basketball team. And that was fun because those guys, I mean, basketball players and I just went to an NBA game not long ago, and those guys are just so talented. Yeah, like those. The guys on the court are just so athletic, big, fast, like the way they can play, the way they can shoot. I mean, I think I saw like 10 straight baskets made. And then you go watch college. College players are amazing as well. But it's definitely different than the NBA.

[PFT Commenter]

A little more chaos.

[Big Cat]

It's always the shot making. The NBA always just try. Like it's. It always shocks me because, like, they just do not miss open shots.

[Nick Foles]

They don't.

[Big Cat]

No matter what.

[Nick Foles]

No, like, it just doesn't happen in college. You see it all the time. NBA, they just drain it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Every single time. All right, so I have to ask you, and I don't know how much insight you can give me, but you, you obviously, you played for the Beer Bears for two years. Years. You also were kind of on a team that's kind of like this year's Bears in the fact that it's a young quarterback and they're transitioning coaches. And you were there for the last year, Nagy, how. Shoot me straight. How much of a cluster is it at House Hall? Just from an organizational standpoint, you know what?

[Nick Foles]

They're sort of in this cycle that it's just not a healthy cycle. And why I say that is, you know, you look back to their last three draft picks at quarterback and you know, you got Mitch, you got Justin, you got Caleb. Right. So their coaching staff, at the end of their, like their prove it year, they draft a quarterback in the first round. So they get that rookie quarterback for one year. They throw them out there with. They've been struggling, they're on their last leg, they have to win that year to stay there, and if not, they're gone. So they bet on everything. So then they get the Rookie quarterback gets one year with the coaching staff and then they're. It's. They've just been fired.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

Because. And then that rookie quarterback, who, mind you, all three of those guys are outstanding players. You know, Caleb's a great player, Justin, Mitch, all outstanding players. Then they have to get a whole new regime with a whole new offense. After taking a beating and going through that psychological battle as a rookie. Where you come from college, you're the man. You're a first round pick. You have all this confidence. Not saying you lose it all, but it takes it, you know, it takes a hit and then you have a whole new staff and then you. You have to deal with that again. So it's not a great cycle. You'd rather, you know, as ownership and everything if, you know that, like, don't let them draft a quarterback even, you know, at the end of their leg. You want a new staff, come in, choose a court. Now, fortunately, they've inherited three great quarterbacks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

It just hasn't worked out. So my hope for them is because, you know, playing for Chicago for two years and just seeing how much the Bears fans love the Bears and how much they want to succeed, you know, they had the great year in 2018 that, you know, I was with the Eagles. Yeah, we'll bring. I. Sorry I brought that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. That was the only great year for a long time. Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

But they just, you know, they're not far away. There's, you know, I was in the.

[Big Cat]

Locker room far away.

[Nick Foles]

It feels far away.

[Big Cat]

So far away. You. You literally were in. You. Because you were last year, Mitch, first year Justin, Right?

[Nick Foles]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So you had, You've seen it.

[Nick Foles]

You seen. I know it.

[Big Cat]

You. You know it as intimate as. As you can. You watched it happen where it's like. And then not only first year, Justin, but last year, ny.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah. And they. And you know, when I was there, like, the locker room was so good. Like the. We had good talent, we had great leadership, we had great guys. We had a locker room that could win because I had seen winning locker rooms.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

I was like, we have a winning locker room. They're just missing some pieces outside it. And what I've seen, you know, through my career is when I started my career, I always thought, it's the locker room, it's locker room. And that is a huge part. But what helps create the locker room is top down, you know. You know, when I was in Philadelphia, you know, just with Mr. Lurie, just how he approached ownership, you know, in Kansas City. City you know, the Hunt family. You know, I always say about Mr. Lurie is, like, he was at a lot of practices, and before every game, he's in there and he goes around and shakes everyone's hand, and then, you know, he wants to win just as bad as anyone. I'm not saying that's different, like in Chicago, but I just, you know, they're going to make those plays. You know, Howie Roseman's super aggressive with getting guys, so I don't know. I mean, I love the locker room when I was here. I love my teammates. When I was here, it was unfortunate we didn't have success. I mean, Coach Nagy's had great success since he's gone back to kc. I mean, now what does he have, two rings?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, Patrick Mahomes.

[Nick Foles]

I mean, Pat. Pat definitely helps, but, you know, they have a. Yeah, I'm going to give.

[Big Cat]

Those to Patrick Mahomes.

[PFT Commenter]

Andy Riggs.

[Big Cat]

I'm not going to let you do that. But, yeah, no, I, I. So, so what is a locker room, like, a win when you say a winning locker room? Because I, I agree. Like, obviously we don't, we don't know the, the intimacy of an NFL locker room, but it does feel like culture matters a lot. Lot. And yeah, talent is important, but, like, guys who feel like they want to, like, die for each other can go a long way.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And, and how does that, like, is, Is there a certain amount of leaders? Is there a certain amount of. Or. Or is it, like you said, top down? The owner, the. The gm, the coach, they all have to be aligned.

[Nick Foles]

You know, you definitely want an alignment up there. I think you got to have a strong head coach, you got to have a strong personality that when they take the job, you know, you, you see a lot of coaches that take a lot of input from outside sources or, like, maybe the ownership, like, and then it changes the way that they view how they'd run a team. I always go to the example of Andy Reed. I think Andy Reed is the greatest. I love Coach Reed. Andy Reid has a way. He knows he's going to coach and you're not going to change. He's enlisted to input, but Big Red's going to make the best decision. Like, you might think, like, you have said something that's really going to impact and change the way he thought. He knows what's best for the pulse of his team, and he's going to take you that direction. He's going to lead. Whereas sometimes we listen to outside sources and then we like, you know what? Because so and so said said this. I need to do it. Maybe ownership said, hey, you need to do this, and then you do it. Coach Reed, they trust Coach Reed, rightfully so, to make those decisions and do those things. So in my opinion, you know, ownership's got to be strong, but you have to have a head coach that can take the reins, and you. He just goes and makes all those decisions. But when he's in front of the team, like, you have a lot of guys and a lot of different personalities and a lot of different backgrounds, which I think is so awesome about, like, football, because you come together as one and you go on the field as one, and you. There's, you know, all these different backgrounds, rounds. But you need someone at the, you know, lead of it, the head coach that's, like, gonna, you know, do all that. Like, you know, Coach Tomlin, like, how much success has he had in Pittsburgh with all these different things? You know, he has a way. He leads. That is his way.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

It's no one else's. He's not gonna be anyone else. So if I'm getting a head coach, I'm gonna be like, hey, I want to coach with a personality that's gonna move a room. Now, the locker room, you got to have talent. You got to have guys, and you got to put egos this side to be great. Because if egos come in, win, it can be, you know, toxifying to a locker room. But what helps that is a head coach that sees that and stops it before it gets started. So, I don't know. Andy Reid was always a great, you know, example for me in doing that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He also had Big Dom.

[Big Cat]

I hope.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Big Dom helps the locker room, too.

[Nick Foles]

You know, Big Dom, you know, he has a great pulse on the locker room and the guys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he does.

[Nick Foles]

And, you know, he's one of my, you know, just being in Philadelphia, just going and sitting with Big Dom in his. You know, his office is one tenth this size. It's literally just like a little story. And he loves it. He loves it. You know, he has a great. Because they're not going to let things fly. They're, you know, if something's going on, they're going to, you know, nip it in the butt. They're going to knock it out. They're not going to let it fester. They're going to find a way to get through it, and that's why they have success in Philadelphia. That's why they. The teams that have success when things become toxifying to locker room, they stop it before it gets started. Whereas, you know, teams that ultimately fall apart, it's. The coach feels uncomfortable to like step in because of the, you know, m. Maybe it's like a high paid player or something like that. And it's scary. But like, we're all human beings, we're all players. We want to succeed at this level. Sometimes we just need a coach to come in and intervene and like, you know, separate and then let's talk this thing out. Usually when you talk it out and you put everything on the table, we usually get through it. I mean, that's just part of it.

[Big Cat]

Do you think Big Dom had AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts have a sit down?

[Nick Foles]

You know what? I have no information on that. I do know.

[Big Cat]

Would that surprise you if Big Dom was like, hey, boys, we got to have a sit down.

[Nick Foles]

It would not surprise me if Big Dom came over. Hey, no, like, that would not surprise me. Yeah, but I have no idea if that happened.

[Big Cat]

If it happened. Yeah, that's fair.

[PFT Commenter]

No, we're answering. I. I do have another Big Dom question. Just walk me through, like, what's Big Dom's day today? What does he do?

[Nick Foles]

You know what, when I was there, it's very different. The guy, you know, Big Dom's a celebrity now. I mean, he's going to like, you know, take pictures and sign August me. He's. He's been big sexy. So, you know, his day to day. I mean, he's there in the morning, goes to his office. I mean, I could not tell you everything that man does. That man is a secret weapon for the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

That way for a long time. But yeah, it's funny just seeing him, you know, being around him and that's my guy. And just seeing him in his track suits and.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's the best. He used to be the best kept secret.

[Nick Foles]

And.

[PFT Commenter]

And me and Big Cat were upset that we didn't know about Big Dom until just a couple years ago.

[Big Cat]

We were mad at max on the 49ers game when big Dom was introduced to America. We're like, you've been keeping this from us. Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

Why isn't Big Dom here with me right now?

[PFT Commenter]

He sent us some footballs. I think he autographed some footballs.

[Nick Foles]

He called.

[Big Cat]

He. He texts me, he calls me my. He says, you're my paisans to us. So he's. We're. I think we're Big Dom approved.

[PFT Commenter]

I met him at the super bowl and he was. I I forget what he said. Like I was like, kid rock on mushrooms or something like that. It was the highest compliment I've ever.

[Big Cat]

Almost arrested you. I bet.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah. At some point he's got. He's got to write a book. Yeah, he needs a book.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

He said many, many questions. Oh, we got to put the headphones on. They're right next to you.

[Nick Foles]

Oh, I got it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there you go.

[Nick Foles]

Look at that.

[Hank]

I said few for the record.

[Nick Foles]

Okay, few.

[Big Cat]

So how many is a few?

[Hank]

I think I have three.

[PFT Commenter]

Three questions.

[Hank]

I didn't write any of them down.

[Big Cat]

But you also screwed up, Nick, giving him, like, a short cord on the.

[Nick Foles]

I'm making it work.

[Hank]

That's Hank. That's Hank.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Hank also, by the way, couldn't listen. He didn't have his headphones on the entire time back here.

[Big Cat]

He couldn't listen.

[Hank]

Couldn't listen to a single word that he was saying.

[Big Cat]

Hank's.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like Tom Brady fan.

[Big Cat]

He literally left. Yeah, yeah, he walked out.

[Hank]

Walked out for. He walked out for a meeting. I'll give him credit for that.

[Nick Foles]

But as soon as you got.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right.

[Hank]

He was talking about the Super Bowl. He said he couldn't. He couldn't listen.

[Big Cat]

He couldn't listen. All right, go ahead, Max.

[Hank]

First of all, I want to thank you for everything you've done for the city of Philadelphia and for the people of Philadelphia. You're the best, and I love you.

[Big Cat]

This is. This is. This is very similar to what Luca Brzi and the Godfather, like, you know, practicing his speech, like, hey, I just wanted to thank you for your. On your daughter's wedding day.

[Nick Foles]

He's got. He's got his notes right in front of him, so he's good.

[Hank]

I got nothing.

[Big Cat]

You can see what I'm looking at. Yeah.

[Hank]

First question. Philly.

[Big Cat]

Philly. Call.

[Hank]

Call. Had you ever gone to Peterson before and, like, recommended another call, or was that a one and done situation?

[Nick Foles]

You know, I've definitely had times in my life where I've gone over to coaches and recommended plays. You know, before the Philly. Philly call with Doug, I'm sure we talked about things on a sideline. The next big moment play call that I ran over to the Doug for was actually against the Bears in the playoff game. I was like, hey, let's do Q8 to Golden Tate, and let's just run it, because we had two plays called, and they were doing, like, a Z hole coverage, which basically means it looks like they're bringing everyone, but they can also drop out. And so that was the next time, but that was the next year, so there's only a Few times that I've run over there because usually, you know, Doug's a great play caller. So I mean most of the time when he call plays, I, I'd approve and I, I, I knew what he was thinking. That was the biggest thing with quarterbacks, that if you have quarterbacks listening to this, the biggest thing you can do is, you know, know your, your play caller and why they're calling a play. You know, that's the, what's the intentionality of the play. So I knew that with Doug, so I really never had to do that. Other than that, were you confident that.

[Hank]

He was going to say yes to that? I mean, that is crazy. Call.

[Nick Foles]

You know what I think me mispronouncing the name of the play, the Philly Special and asking for Philly. Philly. I don't know if it was all the commercials on TV or what it was that were going Philly, Philly maybe rattled his brain to where he just said yes. But no, I, you know, we had talked about it. We were more thinking second half, go up by two scores, you know, safer place to do it. Not fourth and one in that situation, but at the same time, like I said, you know, when a quarterback runs over there and you trust the quarterback, a lot of times the coach goes with it.

[Hank]

Okay, that was great.

[Big Cat]

That was it. No, no, no, no.

[Nick Foles]

He's letting it soak in. He just revision. He just, just thought about that memory one more time.

[Hank]

That's good that I'll never forget where I was. Okay. I know it's been said before, I think in like different media outlets. What, where did the Hungry dogs thing start? And like what was the story of that came from there.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, Hungry dogs run faster was from, you know, and this is from my knowledge and you know, I'll get fact checked but from Jeff Stoutland, the offensive line coach who is still at Philadelphia. And you know, he's with Chip Kelly, Doug Peterson and you know, now with Sirianni. He's just an amazing O line coach, does a great job. Has love, the guys love him. I mean the line play consistently since 2013 has been fantastic. And that's one been because of the O lineman and the quality of alignment, but also because of coach Stalin. So that's one of his sayings is, you know, hungry dogs run faster. And that's the mentality he wanted from his O line. And then, you know, the underdog stuff came in because, because you know, we were one of the top teams statistically going into the playoffs. But then when I Took over. We then became the least feared, which they. We printed all over our facility. So even when you went to the restroom and you went number two, where you thought you could have peace from everything, you look to your right and it's just on the wall. So there was. There was a reminder. Like, what it reminded me of is, like, don't take anything for granted. No one expects every. Anything from us. So put in the work.

[Hank]

So Coach Stout, like, that was forever. That wasn't just because that they were underdogs in every game. Like, all year, he was saying, hungry dogs run fast.

[Nick Foles]

That's. I feel from what I know, that's always been one of his sayings in the O line. And then it just sort of transformed to the underdog mentality, and then, you know, underdog mentality. With what. What is underdog? Well, hungry dogs run faster. But once again, now I got another guest for y'all. Get. Get coached out on the show. Yeah, he'd be better than me.

[Hank]

Yeah, No, I think he just. They just came out with NFL films about him last night. I didn't get to watch.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, he's fantastic.

[Hank]

He's.

[Nick Foles]

I mean, he's fantastic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Eagles online, Always the best.

[Nick Foles]

Yep.

[Hank]

All right, last question. I think we talked a little about. A little bit about the Philly media. They like to emphasize drama. What was a quarterback room like when you were. When you were taken over?

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, I mean, they're. They're always going to emphasize drama. I mean, we had a really solid quarterback room in Philadelphia. I mean, with Carson. Nate and I is really solid, obviously, with Carson going down and that. You know, the one thing I always do with my teammates is try to put myself in what they're going through, whether it's an injury or, you know, that's difficult. So, you know, with Carson having such an amazing year and then getting injured like that down the stretch, and then, you know, we keep going. That. That's tough, man. He handled that so well. And it was. It was a really great quarterback room. And we've all stayed in touch. I'm. You know, I was in Nate Sudfeld's wedding, and, you know, when Carson went to Kansas City, I. I texted him. I was like, pump for him, because I got to play for Kansas City in 16 with Andy and just said how much he's going to love it. And, you know, I was like, hey, go get some burn ends. You know, make sure you enjoy it while you're there. So really, you know, for the NFL standards, great quarterback room.

[Big Cat]

I love what Max did right there because he was like, you know, the Philly media, they always try to get drama. Can you please talk some shit about Carson Wentz?

[Hank]

That wasn't what I said.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was like, hey, I was just ignoring.

[Hank]

Acknowledging that that was. That was something that was being talked about at that time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I also like how you say the word drama, like, with a J.

[Hank]

There was a lot of. I mean, drama. That's what Philly media likes to do. They're doing it right now.

[Big Cat]

You're doing it right now. You literally are doing it.

[Hank]

I wanted him to give the opportunity to say that the Philly media overemphasizes things, and that's what's going on with Jalen Hurts and A.J. brown right now. They were saying that Nick and Carson where. That Carson was pissed off that he was there, and I wanted to give him the chance to say that wasn't true or if it was true.

[Nick Foles]

So, yeah, you got it from me that we had a great quarterback room and light the life emotions definitely go in, but we had a great quarterback room in the sense of, like, caring for one another and having, like, you know, being there during an injury, deep being there during a difficult situation. And, you know, the Philadelphia media is nationally known for, you know, being, you know, putting stuff out there and being aggressive with it. I mean, that's what they do. And that. That's their job to do that. That's how they put food on the table for, you know, their family, and that's what they're asked to do. It is a. You know, when you go into the media and the thing with them is I always had a great relationship with the media because I eventually just took the perspective. I was like, listen, these are human beings. I know what they're doing. I know they have to ask these questions. They have. Maybe they want to ask, or their boss is telling them, like, you have to ask this. It's my job to not get offended or be upset about it. And if I can't answer a question, I just have to pivot it and give them something to write about. Like, they have to write something. Something. So instead of just being upset and like, oh, why'd you ask? That's like, you know, I. I'd eventually be like, you know, I can't answer that. So nice try. But what I can give you is this. But it was more just having that because, I mean, you don't want the media mad at you, right? Like, in Philly, I mean, if they're mad at you, they're gonna go at you. So I always want to treat them as human beings and have that perspective. And in doing so, I felt like I had a really great relationship with them and I never really had an issue with it. I actually had fun going into the media. I changed my perspective. Like, when I go into this, I get my, you know, heads up, like, hey, here's some stuff that's going on. But I'm like, all right, let's see what they're going to try to ask as opposed to, like, I hope they don't ask this because I'm gonna get pissed off. I was like, let me see if they go this way. And if they did, I just had fun with it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you listen to the Philly media? Would you find yourself in the car tuned in?

[Nick Foles]

No, I actually don't listen to much. I don't literally listen to media. I listen to country music, some Christian raps and Christian music, and then my kids running around screaming. Yeah, that's about it.

[Big Cat]

To me.

[PFT Commenter]

There would be like a little bit of morbid curiosity where I would know that it wouldn't be healthy for, for me, but I'd find myself on the drive into the. The facility and I'd be like, let's just see what WIP is saying.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I would do like one minute of radio on, one minute off.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, all right, give me a little taste.

[Nick Foles]

You're gonna do like a little interval. Yeah, that's your mental. So. So the problem with that, okay, if you're a normal fan, I get it, but if you're a player or a coach, and I know the coaches, you know, there's coach out there actually do listen. And they could say it's their prep work for the media and stuff. But my thing is this. It goes back to what I said at the beginning with like Coach Reed and stuff. Like, you have to have a clear cut direction of where you want to go without sources coming in. So the second you bring in someone talking potentially bad or ill or draw dramatic about your team, no matter what you do, it's going to be a part of your mind. Like, you're not tough enough to say, I'm not gonna let this affect me. It might affect you 1%, but that 1%, you're gonna need to be the best that you can be in the NFL. So that's why I think, you know, anytime you do that as a, you know, coach or a player, you're creating clutter in your brain that you don't want in there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's better to just ignore completely.

[PFT Commenter]

If you hear him say, like, one thing nice about you, if a good game and you tune in real quick and they're like, oh, Nick P. He's the best. This guy's the best.

[Nick Foles]

You don't want that either.

[PFT Commenter]

And then you don't want that either, because when you have a bad game, they say something bad about you, then that's going to absolutely crush you because you already put. You gave them power in the first place to, like, have your emotions affected by them, so you don't want to swing the other way. What about the off season after the Super Bowl? Was there. Did you think that, like, hey, I might just stick around in Philly for a little bit?

[Nick Foles]

You know what? I knew that I was signed for two years, so I was signed to go there as, you know, the back of Carson for years. So I was under contract. And I love Philadelphia. I wish, you know, it's one of those places you wish you could play your whole career. And that's why I retired there. But I. We restructured my deal. I. I wasn't going to be like, hey, I want to be tra. I want to be released. Like, so we restructured it and added some bonus protection and all that if I played again. But, you know, after winning the super bowl, you know, that never crossed my mind. You're so busy, too. We wrote a book. You're doing different tours, and it just happens, you know, we. Our daughter Lily was seven, eight months when we want it, you're going on shows. So it. Then all of a sudden the off season hits and it was really nice going back to Philadelphia. And, you know, I took all the reps in the off season as Carson healed. But, you know, once he came back, I was running scout team. And it was good for my heart, though. You know, you go from winning the super bowl and being super bowl mvp, and then all of a sudden you're running scout team, and it's just part of it. But it was a lot of, you know, I love the. I love the guys, the locker room, and I really love going to work there. But I knew after that season when Carson in 18, when we beat the Bears in the playoffs. Yeah, and I say that, but I'm also a Bear.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I need that game broke Matt Nagy's brain forever.

[Nick Foles]

I know. Yeah, I know. I remember running that same play in practice as a Bear, and I completed it, and they're focused brain and I, you know, and they were just like, oh, we can't have you run that play. Like, I'm like, dang, there's some ill will towards here. But, yeah, I think, you know, I was excited to go back, and we restructured it, and I'm GLAD I had 18. I'm glad, you know, I didn't have to go reset somewhere else after winning the super bowl and being there, you know, we love it. Like I said, that's why I retired. There is how much I love the Eagles.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that a humbling moment? Like, you. You're super bowl mvp, and then, boom, scout team.

[Nick Foles]

You know, it's definitely humbling, but, you know, God had worked so much in my heart through the years, and, you know, when I almost stepped away from the game after my year in St. Louis, that I realized when I came back to the game, I was like, you know, whatever I do, I want to glorify God throughout that. So I just looked at that as another, you know, opportunity to do so. So. And, you know, he got it done such a work that he took the, you know, maybe the football being an idol or my identity and was like, you know, what? You know, your representation of me, you're not perfect. I'm a. You know, I'm a human. I'm sinful. I'm. I've fallen short. But, like, I got to be an example in that situation. So you definitely have to fight the demons of, like, man, like, when I'd walk into the facility, like, the first picture is, like, me catching the Philly special on the Super Bowl 52 logo. But then I reminded, like, I get to be an example in the locker room with the young guys, the guys coming in, the guys that are here, here. You know, even I remember when we were going to London for the London game, you know, all the starters were in the first class because they're playing. And then I'm in the back of the plane, you know, with a lot of the, you know, scout team and guys who are, you know, backup, because I was back up, and, you know, we even had some starters come back there with me. He's like, well, Nick's in the back of the plane. You know, I'm gonna be back there, too. So it was one of those things where it was really cool, and I just didn't want to let that ego, you know, take over my heart, because if it does, it can become toxic to the team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Max was just shaking his head, like, don't fucking let Nick, folks in the back of the plane. He was upset about that. So when you look back, because it's it's really interesting. Your career is fascinating because you had the highs, the lows, like backup, bunch of different teams. Do you look back and you're just like, well, at least, you know, there was that. That year I proved that, like, what my peak was. And like, that was. I was able to find. I was able to show everyone this is the guy that was inside me the whole time. And yeah, there was some time, you know, the Jaguars didn't go so well. And, you know, the. There's. There's times where you bounce around. You even said you thought about retiring, but do you. Do you look back and the first thing you think of is like, yeah, see that? I. I was able to prove to everyone I'm a Super bowl mvp.

[Nick Foles]

You know, I look back on. On my career just because it was such a wild journey, you know, from the beginning to the end, and I look back with gratitude. And the one thing is funny because, like, you know, growing up and growing in my faith and through different situation in life, I always, like, prayed for wisdom. So, like, I feel like you want to be downloaded with. Was my. Just download it. Like, we download it update on our iPhone or Android or whatever y'all are.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Nowhere iPhone.

[Nick Foles]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but we're not crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

The green bubble sucks.

[Big Cat]

Are you Android?

[Nick Foles]

I go back and forth. I'm iPhone right now, but I go back and forth. I go. I like technology. Yeah. Hey. I like testing out. I always try to, you know, test different things out, but when I. When I look back at it, I gained a lot wisdom through the ups and downs. And, you know, even the, you know, when we got to the high, I had the heart to realize that, you know, this is really special. Embrace it, enjoy it. And it's about the journey and the people alongside it. It's not about the trophy. It's about, you know, you remember the moments, the tough moments, because it was so hard to get there. And then why was I able to endure those moments with my teammates? Well, it was because of the. The bad moments before that I thought were bad. That taught me something inside side when every time we'd step on the field, we get killed. Maybe when I was in St. Louis, when I was struggling, when I got benched, you know, where I almost left the game and came back to Kansas City, all those different moments come to fruition, and I realized how much wisdom I gained to where now I am retired. And, you know, raising three children and raising kids is not easy because you're being intentional and all the different things go on, but it's also the most special thing in life. But I say that is. It's also very hard. So, you know, even coaching you sports, there's a lot of wisdom, and I'm grateful for that. So when I look back, I know what I was able to do. I showed moments of that. But I also think it was a great example of how. How important a team is. Yeah, you know, it wasn't me. It was my teammates and our coaches and everything together. So whenever I had success, everyone always says, like, why did you have so much success in Philadelphia? Well, they have a great owner. They have, you know, how he's done a great job as gm, and they've done great with coaches in the locker room. They. They have a system that they hold, too. And then also, I think the fan base. The fan base really, like, makes, you know, it's like we said, like, they're going to hold you accountable just as much, if not more than any fan base. So, like, you better lock in, because you can't go out there complacent on Sunday or Monday or Thursday whenever you're playing. Like, you have to bring it every single day because those fans are going to let you hear it. So you. You remember that when you step on. It's not that way all the time. Sometimes the stadium's not even full, so there's not that accountability.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, so when you almost walked away from the game that was in St.

[Nick Foles]

Louis, after St. Louis, I just. It was such a turmoil. Years, the year, the last year there in St. Louis, going to LA, and there's a lot of different moving parts that happened. And I had just been traded from Philadelphia and it was just. I. I just did not have fun playing the game. Lost heart for the game, and really needed to take a, you know, deep breath. And I just feel like playing football, you know, when in the NFL, it's a business, but at the same time, like, you got to play the game with a childlike heart and a love for the game. Like, that's got to be a part of it.

[Big Cat]

It.

[Nick Foles]

So I had lost that part of it, and I didn't know if I was going to get it back. And then, you know, went through this journey and, you know, it was all based on a journey God had presented before me. You know, my wife was such a huge piece of that.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, I read that she wrote you a letter.

[Nick Foles]

She wrote me a letter that I keep in a Bible at my house. And, you know, I have several different study Bibles. And everything. And occasionally, whenever I'm using that study Bible, it'll be there and I'll reread it. And it was. It was her being an amazing wife and best friend and just one, challenging me, but two, realizing like, she was there no matter what I decided. But she also felt like I was going through something and I needed to face it head on and let. Not let that darkness overtake me.

[PFT Commenter]

Was it a handwritten letter?

[Nick Foles]

It was. She typed it up. I think she probably hand wrote it and then typed it up, but it's. It's.

[PFT Commenter]

And then she just handed you.

[Nick Foles]

She's. She's a great writer.

[PFT Commenter]

She's like, here are my words. And then you sat down, you read a letter.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's very old school, but it sounds like it was powerful.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, it was a long letter. It was like four pages. So it was a long letter.

[Big Cat]

I mean, you have to think back now every now and then, being like, what if I had retired you? I. I know money's not everything, but you ended up making like 60 more million dollars and won a Super Bowl MVP. That's an all time what if. Yeah, I mean, that. That's crazy. Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

I mean, in the moment that I decided to go back and play, I'll never forget it. You know, we were in California, and I was, you know, I just got back from a camping trip with Tory's brother Ryan. We went camping and fly fishing. And, you know, it was actually the first time I had peace since I was probably a kid, because football did not consume me. I had just been released from the Rams, so I was free. No team controlled me. I got to go on a camping trip. Andy Reid and I were texting because I was a free agent, and, you know, he wanted me to go to kc And I just told him, like, hey, I think I'm done. I'm just going to go on this trip and just enjoy being out in the wilderness and fly fish. I never got a chance to do that because I was always training. And then I got back and I had to deal with, you know, six teams that called and all these different things. And Tori and I are talking about everything, and it's just really hard for me to take because I'm not ready make a decision, and I just didn't feel like I could do it. But then I remember just saying to pray, you know, prayer to God, like, God, like, I really don't know what to do. I'm struggling, and, you know, there's the calming voice or something inside Me, whatever it was discernment from the holy Spirit that said just move.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

Like stop being paralyzed. You're living in fear. That doesn't come from me either. Retire and I'll be with you and I love you and I'll be with you. Or go back and play. And then the ultimate deciding factor is what are you most afraid of? Like what is. And I was more most afraid of going back to play. So that's why I made the decision was like that was the thing I did not want to do but I was most afraid of. And I knew that he'd be walking alongside me. So called Andy Re I left my wife thought I was calling my agent to just put in my retirement papers.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Nick Foles]

And she had no idea cuz this. The conversation had gone where I was probably going to retire.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

Cuz we're like in tears.

[Big Cat]

Exact close.

[Nick Foles]

It was tough. And she was there and she's our rock of our family. I walk outside side I call Andy Reid and I'm like hey, if you'll have me, the training camp's already a week or two in. I was like I'll come. I was like. And I told him 100 what was going on in my heart. So he knew. I'm like hey, but if the love of the game can come back, I know it's playing for you in Kansas City. And if you'll still have me, I'd be honored to come here and give it a shot. Because training camp you have so many guys so like if I don't cut it and I lose heart, they're just going to cut me anyway.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right.

[Nick Foles]

So called my agent told him and then I hadn't thrown a ball for like three, four months or something. So that night, you know, I called Tori's brothers Evan and Ryan who like I said, both great athletes. I'm like hey we gotta go find a field and throw. I gotta see if I can still throw this thing. So went through. And then like a day later I'm on a fight. Kc. You know, get the training camp. They don't have like pads or shoes or helmet that fit a quarterback because they didn't account on that. So like I'm wearing number one. I'm wearing like lineman shoes, receiver shoulder pads and like a random helmet. And I've. I felt so dumb. Like I just felt like an imposter.

[Big Cat]

Right, right.

[Nick Foles]

But it was the fourth day of training camp where I woke up and I was doing my bible study and watching film and honestly like full transparency, like tears Came to my eyes because I realized it was the first time in a long time I was pumped to go to practice. I hadn't felt that in a long time, so.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Nick Foles]

That year in 2016, being with the Kansas City Chiefs was my favorite year of football because of everything it led to. And that's why when, you know, I cook with Chef Donnie and, you know, I do all these different things, like, Big Red is always a big part of, like, my journey, and I'm super grateful for him having me and the leader he is as a head coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, and it sounds like Andy Reid, like, not save your career, but, like, he be having that relationship with him and having someone you can call and be like, hey, here's. Because if you. If you call. You said six teams called you. If you call one of those other teams and you're like, hey, I don't know if I really want to do it, they'd be like, all right, fine. Fuck you. Don't. Come on.

[Nick Foles]

No doubt.

[Big Cat]

You know, but, like, Andy Reid being like, no, I want to give you this opportunity. That's awesome.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah. And he drafted me, so he knew me for my rookie year and playing and going through the draft process, and we stayed in touch after. And, you know, even when I was with Chip and having success, I'd always get a text from Andy, and, you know, that meant a lot to me, and that was, you know, really, really special. And that's why, you know, he means so much. I had so much fun. You know, Alex Smith, Tyler Bray, our QB room. You know, Coach Nagy was our offensive coordinator. It just, you know, it showed me so much structure. Alex's preparation was amazing, so I got to learn a lot from him and his preparation and just the. The man he is. And we had a really great quarterback room, that the environment was healthy. We had a lot of success. You know, I played in two games that year and, you know, had success and sort of got my mojo back.

[Big Cat]

So Andy Reid gets credit for the Eagles Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And also, Alex Smith might be the best starting quarterback of all time to be a backup quarterback for.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's, you know. Yeah, he done, you know, durable. Done, you know, just such an amazing player, such amazing leader. And I will tell you this. Like, Alex in the facility, the way he locks in at the facility is truly amazing, because then we'd have, like, quarterback date nights, and I'm, like, so used to, like, like, with the wives, not quarterbacks.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you have quarterback date nights in Philly? With Carson Wentz.

[Nick Foles]

We did a. We did a couple. They were. Carson was not used. Hold on, hold on. Nate wasn't married. They just got married a year ago. They're about to have their first kid. They might have had their first kid, like, right now. And then Carson was not married at the time.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so date night. Got it.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, we. So I did date night with my wife.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so you skip. So you and Carson went. We're not as close as you.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, but context is everything. Not married. So, like, he had a girlfriend. He had a new. He had a new girlfriend who's now his wife.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Nick Foles]

And they have, you know.

[Big Cat]

Sounds like he could have gone on a date. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Sounds like things weren't so rosy. That's interesting.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

See, I see what y'all doing. This is why y'all do what you do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

This is why y'all do what you do.

[PFT Commenter]

Philly, did you ever learn all the lyrics to dreams and Nightmares?

[Nick Foles]

I did not, but I. To this day, when that song comes on, I. So I listen, like, the beat and everything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

When that song comes on, like, there's something inside me that just, like, juices me up because of, like, running out of the tunnel and what it meant to our team. And Meek Mill and everything is going through, like, that song forever will, like, get me going.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was. I mean, yeah, that was a. A time and place. Max is smiling ear to ear. All right, I got one last question for you. It's a rollback question. Rho BK promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Qzips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rock.com promo code, take. So my last question was, do you want to give. We've kind of been, you know, singing your praise. Nick Fo, super bowl mvp everything. Do you want to give us any credit for not asking a question about everyone saying you have a big dick?

[Nick Foles]

Well, I mean, in a way, you just sort of did that.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no, he didn't. No, no, no, no.

[PFT Commenter]

Give us credit.

[Nick Foles]

So we're doing this, and, you know, like, when I go on the show, I'm like, all right. You know, is it weird that the first thing I thought of is, like, that's going to be the question.

[Big Cat]

Didn't ask the question. Asked the question. I asked if we. The question is, do we get credit for not bringing up the fact that other people say that you have a big dick? So it's really. The question is, do we get credit?

[Nick Foles]

Y'all do get credit.

[Big Cat]

Okay, there we go.

[Nick Foles]

But you know, it's. You know. Yeah. I mean, y'all get credit for not asking now. We get. We get the awkward likeness of it also. You get what you need.

[Big Cat]

We get credit.

[PFT Commenter]

Speaking of roback, they've got very roomy pants.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And joggers and shorts for all types of bodies.

[Big Cat]

What are you gonna say, Max?

[Hank]

I was gonna ask if there's ever anyone in Philly who's asked you to that, who has asked you to sign their dick.

[Big Cat]

What? All right, so now you can take the credit away because he made it even worse that. That.

[PFT Commenter]

That.

[Nick Foles]

That arguably was a little worse. Because then, like, when you ask the question, then you're, like, thinking about, like, what he just asked.

[Big Cat]

You're like, yeah, what? I feel like crazy.

[Hank]

I could see it.

[Nick Foles]

I mean, like, great. Greatly. No, but there's a lot of tattoos of the Super Bowl 52 or me. Funny story. Funny story about tattoo. So I was in San Francisco doing a speaking thing, and, you know, I'd been in Philadelphia for a few days, San Fran, before I went back to SoCal. And I really needed to go. Go, like, get a shower, because I travel across country in the morning, so I'm like, all right, there's a ymca. So I go to the ymca. I'm like, all right. Hopefully, you know, these gyms now with day passes, I don't even know. I just work out in my garage. So I go in there, walk in. I'm in San Francisco, and I'm like, hey, do you have a. And the guy just pauses, staring at me, and my marketing agent buddy Austin's with me, and I'm like. And he just lifts up his shirt, and it's just a full Super Bowl 52 tattoo. And this is San Francisco. So I was like, oh, wow. And, you know, I was like, so I can get a day pass? Yeah, we get free day passes anyway. But I'm like, well, you're gonna give me a free day pass, so I need a shower. Yeah. But, yeah, that's just sort of the. You know, they're. Philly fans are everywhere. They love the team, they love the city, and it's amazing family.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, was that you asking him if he would sign your penis?

[Big Cat]

No. Yeah.

[Hank]

No, no, no. That's not what I was.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what it sounded like to me.

[Hank]

That's not what I was saying. I just. I really wanted to ask, like, what was the craziest Philly thing that you saw? And then you talked about that, and then it made me think, damn, I wonder if that has ever happened.

[Big Cat]

Listen, in terms of rumors about you, it's the best one. You can have the best possible. And I don't even think it's a rumor, but in terms of people talking about something.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah. I mean. I mean, it could be worse.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Very. Well, listen, I have a small dick, so, like, that sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

I've never had that rumor start about me that never. I've never had, like, former teammates go on podcasts and be like, hey, yeah, just like, to confirm the size of PFT's dick for you. That's really the dream scenario.

[Big Cat]

Wait, so what is the last question? What is the craziest Philly fan story or weird or request that you've gotten?

[Hank]

That was basically what I meant to ask.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you just did a terrible job. Like, hey, dude, anyone ask you to sign your dick?

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, I mean, you know, you'll run in occasionally, like, maybe an image of, you know, a dick or something. You know, stuff like that. But, you know, usually it's. It's not too crazy. I think they know me too, so. So they. Yeah, a lot of. It's just, like, a Philly special thing or something like that.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, there was always, like, us. They were, you know, they were like.

[Big Cat]

You did not ask the question. You did not ask the question.

[Nick Foles]

You didn't ask the question. He brought in a worse question.

[Hank]

I didn't even ask him.

[Nick Foles]

But my thing is this.

[Big Cat]

Can we people.

[Nick Foles]

But Max back there is thinking, like, what? What can I ask? Like, my question is, like, how do you get to that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, because he was. He was thinking. He was thinking in his head. He was like, I think Nick Foles had a good enough time on this interview. He'll sign my dick later.

[Hank]

That's not what I was saying.

[Big Cat]

Absolutely.

[Hank]

That's not what I was saying. 100% not what I was saying.

[Big Cat]

Because he's done this before with guests. He's had guests on his dick. So he was like.

[Nick Foles]

Then he goes and gets it tattooed.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, his dick is like a wall of graffiti.

[Hank]

No, this is incorrect. Yeah, incorrect. This is not how I wanted this podcast to end.

[Nick Foles]

You became a huge part of this podcast. Now on social media, when we pump out, y'all. Pump out all the. This is like, what you're pumping out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's gonna be very upset about that.

[Hank]

One just popped into my head that I.

[Big Cat]

Wait, so last. Last question. You have a merch brand now, wearing the hats.

[Nick Foles]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Dad Season.

[Nick Foles]

Dad Season.

[Big Cat]

I like it. Dads need more representation.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah. So, yeah. Story.

[Big Cat]

Story.

[Nick Foles]

About it. So I, Pat O'Donnell is punting for the 49ers in teammate in Chicago. Yeah, one of my best friends, we, you know, we, we co founded the Brand dad season. And you know, at the beginning of any brand, like, you know, the idea was 2023 really got going in 2024. Throughout the course of this year is like, how are we going to do this? You're figuring out what is. Is a podcast is this. And we're like, you know what? Let's do great hats. Let's. Let's do merch, you know, so right now in 2025, we have a great plan to scale more merch, more hoodies, more shirts. We want like performance golf performance. We. The hat I'm wearing right now is a hydro performance hat. So, you know, moisture wicking, water repellent. These will come out in like January. So we want to create and spec out great hats. So we have a line of that and you know, it's D A d s z n.com and then on our social. But, you know, it's been a lot of great feedback. We're also going to make things for, you know, we have a mom brand coming out. We have kids stuff coming out. You know, a Philly. Philly girl hack, because we have a Philly line that's really cool.

[Big Cat]

Love it.

[Nick Foles]

And then we're going to do stuff for people that are not dads. You know, we have, you know, we're going to drop a lot of our performance hats without, you know, just our logo on the side that even if you want to wear it, like, you can wear it. And then, you know, you want Philly, Philly beanie. Just because we had the Philly, Philly dad line. So we have a lot of great ideas. My brain is always churning with ideas. And we have a great team. It's. We're truly small. It's, you know, Pat, myself and our wives are heavily a part of it. And then we have, you know, a small team of people that, you know, live the. Love the brand, their dads, and they love what we're doing and they help with the, you know, as we grow in content and merchandise planning and scaling. So it's pretty awesome.

[Big Cat]

Nice. Yeah. Being a dad rocks. Yeah, it's fun. And sometimes not fun.

[Nick Foles]

In Chicago, it becomes a little more difficult because of the cold weather, huh?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, they. Thank God we have this office. I just have my kids just come here and run around.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's a lifesaver. Yeah. Yeah, this office is like. Yeah, an adult.

[Big Cat]

They love it. So. All right, well, Nick, thank you so much, man. It was awesome having you on. Awesome meeting you. Max is going to ask for the dick signing after this.

[Hank]

Nope, nope.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Nick Foles]

We won't do that. But if you want something else.

[Big Cat]

No, we're not going to cut any of this.

[Nick Foles]

This is.

[Big Cat]

This is what.

[Nick Foles]

This is what goes on. This is the real nitty gritty.

[Big Cat]

He actually did a good job too, with his previous questions. Like, I was proud of Max for not asking a weird question earlier in the interview.

[Nick Foles]

You know what? He's a true Philly fan.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He can. You can only contain it for so long.

[Hank]

I just want to know about other Philly fans.

[PFT Commenter]

Now, Max, you know what you've done is now Philly fans are going to.

[Big Cat]

Ask him that all the time.

[PFT Commenter]

It's all because of you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Nick Foles]

You actually just created a lot of issues for me.

[Big Cat]

Cut off all of this. Oh, no. You did it to him. All right, thanks so much, Nick.

[Nick Foles]

All right, thank you. I appreciate it.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay. Fire fest of the week, boys. It's time. Henry.

[Memes]

Yeah, My fire fest is dunk related.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Memes]

Next week is the day I'll be attempting. I think I will be close. Ish.

[Big Cat]

Yep. When is PMTV coming out?

[Memes]

Today or out now?

[Big Cat]

So pft. Yeah, we have some negotiating. I. We did some pre negotiation. I said to Hank when we were negotiating that none of this counts because PFT is not here.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I heard. I heard some. Some things from the walls regarding the pre negotiations that there were some slander. There were some. Well, I know because slander is when it's not true. Oh, yeah, but just some insults. Insults that were thrown around very loosely.

[Big Cat]

But.

[PFT Commenter]

But yeah, Hank, this has been like a six month fire fest for you because you've just. There have been so many ups and downs and having this challenge just looming out in the distance has really put you through a mental Wringer.

[Nick Foles]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I mean, I've been. I've enjoyed the training. I. I've. I've seen progress. I will see if I've seen enough progress. I think it will be close. I probably didn't go as hard as I should have in the beginning, and, you know, much like a project or whatever in school, I procrastinated too long. I was going through the motions. I just wasn't. I've been locked in for, like, two months. I just needed to be locked in for, like, probably an extra two or three. But there is a second part of the dunk bet where it's like. We went back and watched the footage when we recorded it, you know, last year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

It was go perfect. It was go. Can I. All right, you want it. You can explain it. No, you want to explain it?

[PFT Commenter]

I knew this day would come.

[Memes]

You want to explain it?

[Big Cat]

You got it. My bad.

[Memes]

In the. When we. The discussion was, Big Cat said, if you go perfect from 3 point contest, 25 or 25, then you win as well. I said, that's never going to happen. You said, okay, 20. I.

[Big Cat]

That's not how it said.

[Memes]

Oh, all right, you explain. No, you explain it. You explain it.

[Big Cat]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

So Max is walking around showing everybody this clip yesterday, trying to figure out what this clip means.

[Big Cat]

If you watched it, put it back.

[PFT Commenter]

I watched the clip, Hank. My initial reaction was, put it back.

[Hank]

We got a mic off right now. We got two. Two podcasters and just not talking into a mic.

[Big Cat]

Put it back. Back. Put it back.

[Hank]

We got a mic off.

[Big Cat]

Put it back.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, what did you think that the. The second part. I don't know.

[Memes]

Pfd. Maybe if you let me speak, I would explain it, but you guys got it. You take it away. Fire fest is. I'm not good at shooting threes.

[Big Cat]

No, say it. Say it. I just. You didn't. You didn't.

[Memes]

You literally didn't let me finish.

[Big Cat]

I did let you finish the part where speaking. You.

[Memes]

That's not what I said.

[Big Cat]

Okay, restart.

[Memes]

I misinterpreted what the initial discussion was. I'm not gonna be able to shoot 20 threes in a row. That's it.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a question.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What was the initial discussion?

[Big Cat]

Do we have a clip?

[Memes]

The initial discussion was 25 for 25. I said, that's never going to happen. You said, okay, 20. There was. You have to go perfect from three point. 25 or 25. I said, that's never going to happen. You said, okay, 20. I heard that as 20 out of 25. When I rewatched the clip this week, I realized you guys meant 20 for 20, so I attempted to shoot. I. I had three shots at it. I took 25 attempts at it on Tuesday, and I didn't make it more than five times in a row. So that's.

[Big Cat]

That's over. We have to. We have to figure out something that. I don't want you to be as down as you are because I actually still think you might be able to dunk.

[PFT Commenter]

You're not giving up on the dunk, are you?

[Big Cat]

Nope. You.

[PFT Commenter]

So why are you this upset about the three pointer?

[Memes]

I'm not.

[Big Cat]

You're not? A text you sent me last night makes me think that you might be close to dunking.

[Memes]

I thought big cat lowered the rims. What she said he wants to do to. With me.

[Big Cat]

I can't. I tried.

[Memes]

I don't think I'm gonna dunk. I think I'm gonna be. I'm just not. I'm. I'm. I can jump 10ft, 4 inches. I think I probably need another inch. I don't think I'm. I'm gonna run out of time.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so let's negotiate.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, let's negotiate, because here's what it comes.

[Memes]

I don't mind.

[PFT Commenter]

It is what it is.

[Memes]

We made the bet.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no, Honor. No, no, I'm not.

[Memes]

I'm not trying to get out of it.

[Big Cat]

No, no. So what I told him. Pft. Is like, we. This is for the viewers. We want it to be fun for the viewers. So obviously, if he can't dunk and he can't do the 20 for 20, we should come up with a, like, redemption bet for Hank where it's not us at stake so we don't have to pay him anything. It's just him getting out of paying.

[PFT Commenter]

Us, getting back to zero.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so here's the.

[Big Cat]

Here's the clip.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

If you want to play it. If you can't dunk, I'll give you three chances to go perfect from three point contest. And if you get that, then you get the money. Okay, that was smart by me, because now he's gonna, like, halfway through not training, he's gonna be like, maybe I'll just. Three pointers, and he'll stop training to duck. That works. So three. Three times through, you'd have to make 25 three pointers in a row.

[Memes]

Yeah, that'll never happen.

[Big Cat]

All right, we'll say. We'll say 20.

[Hank]

That is so much more likely to happen than you.

[Memes]

So I, again, like, I didn't. I remember talking about it, and I remember 20 in my head for the last few months, it was 20 out of 25. Watching the clip back, I realized it was 20 for 20, which is impossible. I think 20 for 25 is possible. Obviously, that's not what we discussed.

[Big Cat]

So the thing we could do, and I propose this, is that we could do. You get a redemption rack or a run through, and I get three chances to beat you. And if I beat you. Or we could do the average of me and PFT and then the difference is what you pay us was the other thing I proposed.

[Memes]

Say that again. You and PFT both do one time through.

[Big Cat]

We get. No, no. You go one time through. That's your score. So let's say you get 20. Okay. Pft and I go three times through each, and we average our best scores. And then the difference is like, you know, like. So say our average is 14, and you get 20. We would then take off whatever it is. So what do you would owe us? Eight grand. You'd owe us two grand. So it'd be like a thousand a point or something. What do you think about that? Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

What were the. The terms that you guys were throwing around yesterday?

[Big Cat]

That was kind of it. It was like that. It was us going, is Hank gonna risk anything more?

[Hank]

It was gonna be money.

[Big Cat]

Pf. It was gonna be PFD versus Hank straight up one time, going through for a million dollars. He would have to pay us a million dollars if you beat him.

[PFT Commenter]

Huh?

[Big Cat]

And we wouldn't have to pay anything if you. If Ernest. If he beat you, we wouldn't have to pay anything. That was where the insult came in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He was willing to do a million dollars and get a cat and shave his face.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of want to take that bet. A million A dude. A million.

[Big Cat]

It's not.

[PFT Commenter]

The million is cool. But getting a cat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And shaving.

[Memes]

I mean, I'm open to the either of those.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Oh, we could do this. All right, so how about we do this because you owe. You would owe us. You'd owe us four grand. Four grand, right.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

I would be willing to go heads up with you one round versus one round. If you beat me, I'll wipe mine clean.

[Memes]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

And then. Pft. Go heads up with you. If PFT beats you, you got to.

[PFT Commenter]

Get a cat and shave.

[Big Cat]

And shave.

[PFT Commenter]

But here's what I'll do.

[Big Cat]

Wipe it clean.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll also wipe it clean if I beat you. I'm willing to trade $4,000 cash yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

So it's wiped. So you'd be wiped clean on PFTs no matter what. And then if he beat you, you got to get a cat and shave your face. Why wouldn't you take this?

[PFT Commenter]

You just said a million dollars.

[Big Cat]

Why would you take this?

[PFT Commenter]

And listen, I'm. I do not shoot three pointers.

[Big Cat]

I mean, it's just in. We're just going. Heads up. One. One time. One time.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like I would probably go first. I'd probably make four.

[Memes]

Three goes first.

[Big Cat]

Remember, I have a broken. Broken.

[Memes]

PFT goes first. I'll do it. I'll go first against you.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't care when I go.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

So why don't you want me to go second?

[Memes]

It's a lot of pressure for me.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I think he's got to go second. I think he's got to go second for the viewers.

[PFT Commenter]

I think there's way more pressure on you if you go second.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's true.

[Hank]

Way more.

[Memes]

I don't know.

[Hank]

I want Hank to go second.

[PFT Commenter]

I accept.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right, all right.

[Hank]

I want Hank to go second again.

[Big Cat]

Except I don't.

[Memes]

I don't. I.

[Nick Foles]

You already.

[Hank]

You already accepted.

[Memes]

No, I didn't. I literally did not. You.

[Hank]

You just said, if PFT goes first, I'll do it.

[PFT Commenter]

And I said, okay, all right, fine.

[Big Cat]

I think this is fair. So you're going to go. So you're going to try to dunk. If you don't dunk, you're going to try to get 20 threes in a row. You have three shots at that. If that doesn't happen, we owe you or we owe you nothing. So we've won that side of the bet. And then we have. The elimination is essentially me and you. Heads up. One time. One time. If I beat you, you owe me the four grand. If I. If you beat me, we're clear. And then. One time. One time. You're already clear with pft. But if he beats you, you have to get a cat and shave your face. It's the shaving the face, isn't it?

[Memes]

Oh, it's the cat.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it is. Oh, I thought it was the shaving.

[PFT Commenter]

The cat might take care of the spider. Spiders, yeah.

[Big Cat]

True.

[Memes]

Spiders have gone away for winter.

[Big Cat]

The cat. The cat. Listen, a cat is fine.

[PFT Commenter]

I love Hank's ongoing war against the spiders.

[Big Cat]

I think this is a fair deal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I mean, I don't want to own a cat, but I also.

[Big Cat]

You could also.

[Memes]

You know, I'm gonna be Pft. So whatever.

[Big Cat]

You could also adopt an elderly cat. They need homes.

[Memes]

Too True.

[Big Cat]

From paws. That'd be so sad. If you just adopted a cat for it to die like six months leader. You would definitely love that cat.

[Memes]

All right.

[Big Cat]

All right. We're good.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so.

[Big Cat]

So already you've. You've. The most you're gonna have to pay is four grand. Correct. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a win. This is massive win for you, Hank.

[Big Cat]

And you've been shooting a lot more than me, so I think you're going to beat me. Although you've never beat me in a three point contest.

[Memes]

Yeah, I think you could beat me. I'm. I'll lock.

[Big Cat]

This is gonna be great imaginative Pft beat. So. Pft. You gotta get. I'm gonna talk.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm texting Titus.

[Big Cat]

You gotta get tight. You gotta get your on.

[Memes]

All right. Pressure. Pressure makes diamonds. Or I can just dunk.

[Big Cat]

Or you can just dunk. If you dunk, you just. What? What would you get? 18 grand or something?

[Memes]

20.

[Big Cat]

20. Damn. What a. What a. I mean, now I'm rooting for you to dunk.

[Memes]

Yeah, me too.

[Big Cat]

Would you still do heads up against pft Just for the cat? Come on. The people need the cat.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, if you can dunk, I think you should go heads up against me. And I'll double how much I owe you.

[Big Cat]

Deal. Oh, my God. Deal. Deal.

[PFT Commenter]

So you're shooting for a cat no matter what.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I love that. I love that.

[Memes]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

And what day are we doing this?

[Memes]

Friday.

[Big Cat]

Friday.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. I'm texting Mark.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There also might be someone who could.

[Hank]

Help you, like a week from today. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There's also someone who might be here who could help you shoot too. Pfd.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

A coach of some kind.

[PFT Commenter]

But I gotta put the out.

[Big Cat]

That won't add any pressure to you?

[Memes]

No, I mean, I'm. I'm gonna fall apart. This is gonna be terrible. I'm already.

[Big Cat]

But you know who wins? The aws.

[Memes]

And that's all that matters.

[Big Cat]

That's all that matters. They are winning. They're gonna win. This is going to be a big win for them.

[Memes]

And we're doing the racks, not the guns.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Memes]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Racks. Racks.

[Hank]

Also, this will be the finale of the pmt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

This will air Christmas week.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yes.

[Hank]

So just everyone who's been asking about that.

[Memes]

This will air Christmas.

[Hank]

This will air Christmas week at the end of the last episode of the PMT documentary.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yes. Okay. Pft. Year Fire Fest. That was good. That was good. I'm sorry for Interrupting you at the start.

[Memes]

It's okay.

[Big Cat]

I apologize.

[PFT Commenter]

My fire fest kind of addressed a couple of them already. One was that Hank brought back winner by provoking it.

[Memes]

Dude, it was. It's fucking like whatever.

[Big Cat]

Today was not that bad.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it was negative 5 wind chill this morning. It's okay. My other fire fest, it's.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna get. It's gonna get to be 40 degrees again tomorrow or Friday. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It'll be okay. My other fire fest is that I have entered the metaverse.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

And I think I like it. I think I enjoy it. So I. I got the Apple Vision Pro, like seven months ago. What a waste of money that was. Yeah, that was. That's probably the. The biggest waste of money I've ever had in my entire life. Was buying that. But a couple days ago, went out, picked up the. The Meta Quest three. That thing rocks. So you can watch NBA games and feel like you're actually courtside at it. This is not an ad. I just enjoy being in the Metaverse.

[Big Cat]

I might have to buy it.

[PFT Commenter]

You feel like a courtside. It's great for flight simulators. I know you love those. Big cat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I'm just like rocking my meta helmet at home. I was watching college football on Saturday. I had three games on at once on like big screen TVs that were just floating in my room. It is. It's awesome. I think I'm just a full time metaverse guy.

[Big Cat]

I guess I gotta get it.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going. You control in the metaverse too? Oh, you can like go up to other people and start with them.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It's fun.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It's fun.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna be a Meta Quest guy.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm in the metaverse right now.

[Big Cat]

That sounds sick. Was it hard to set up?

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's very easy.

[Hank]

Did you get any headaches?

[PFT Commenter]

No headaches. No headaches.

[Hank]

I remember because we had this in the New York office and I played like two games of something and my brain. Could I also have up brain? That's me thing. That's me thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Stop talking.

[PFT Commenter]

I know that, like, if you don't adjust it, if you don't adjust the like tightness of it or the lens distance or whatever it with you, but if you have it set up perfectly, it's. Man, I'm telling you, the Apple Vision pro was like five grand. This thing was 500. This kicks the out of the Apple Vision Pro. Apple Vision Pro sucks ass. But this rocks.

[Big Cat]

I might have to get it. All right. My Fire Fest I get two. One is, I do think I have a broken pinky. I've had it for two weeks. I don't know what to do about it. I don't think you can do anything for a broken pinky.

[PFT Commenter]

You cut it off.

[Big Cat]

It just hurts really bad. It hurt really bad when I heard it, and then it got a little better, and now it hurts again. So. Yeah, I don't think you can. They don't do anything for a broken pinky, right?

[Memes]

No, you can, like, tape it, I think.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'm not doing anything, so I think I'm just, like, a hurt hand guy for the rest of my life.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then the other one was that my. My son just threw up all over my car on Saturday. And that was fun. So. Oh. And we were in a park parking lot after lunch, and I said to him, I was like, you look like you're gonna throw up. Do you need to throw up? He's like, no. And then we got in the car.

[PFT Commenter]

Everywhere spins on the big cat. At least now you have a sick car.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, real sick car. Real sick car. Oh, it was everywhere. And then I got blamed for it because he was like, you shouldn't have made me eat the single noodle that he ate for lunch.

[PFT Commenter]

That was your fault.

[Big Cat]

He was like, I told you I didn't want that single noodle. It would make me like, damn, you're right. You got me. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you. Okay.

[Big Cat]

You're fine. You're. We just.

[PFT Commenter]

We.

[Big Cat]

What just happened here is that you already are down. You. You already don't have to pay four grand. You're.

[Memes]

I would pay four grand to not have a cat and, like, the money to.

[Big Cat]

Pft.

[Memes]

No, I know, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

I suck pressure.

[Big Cat]

Pft. You shouldn't practice.

[Memes]

No, shut.

[PFT Commenter]

No, stop, stop. I mean, it's not going to make a difference. I think I would honestly. Shoot. I'm probably, like, 7% from 3. Is that fair?

[Big Cat]

And you're also going to be on. You're already going to done it. Like, you're going to do it, like, what, three times? So you're going to be warmed up, and you're in great shape.

[Memes]

Yeah, I'm excited. I'm. I'm nervous, but I'm excited.

[Big Cat]

You shouldn't be nervous. I think you're good. I think you're going to walk away from this and probably not owe anything.

[Memes]

Oh, hopefully.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Or be up 20.

[Big Cat]

Or be up 20. Yeah. You could dunk, dude. How.

[PFT Commenter]

How sick would it be if you were to dunk and you'd have that video for forever.

[Memes]

Oh, the the way I'm going to dunk.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, how many times does he get.

[Memes]

Again to Dunk Unlimited?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, cuz you'll stop being able to jump as high after a little bit. You'll quit memes. Are he still staring at that light?

[Big Cat]

I was showing Pug off the light.

[Hank]

I can't stress enough how long this light has been there.

[Big Cat]

Forever.

[PFT Commenter]

And you can also forever. Just stop looking at it. All right, Now I have to look at it.

[Hank]

All right, we ready for numbers 11.

[Nick Foles]

3.

[Big Cat]

Nice.

[Nick Foles]

What the.

[Big Cat]

Man 2.

[Memes]

That's a big thing for me.

[Nick Foles]

94.

[PFT Commenter]

Put 35.

[Big Cat]

I'll go 10.

[Nick Foles]

21.

[Big Cat]

Thanks to the Nationals.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh yeah, the National. The Nationals tweeted at memes after they won the ladder saying memes. Have you ever gotten this?

[Big Cat]

You've never gotten at memes. You've never gotten.