Pat Bev In Studio, The Cowboys Are Deader Than Dead, College Football Talk + The Jets Have Reached The Bottom

Summary

Pardon My Take: Episode Summary Title: Pat Bev In Studio, The Cowboys Are Deader Than Dead, College Football Talk + The Jets Have Reached The Bottom
Release Date: November 20, 2024

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Introduction

In this episode of "Pardon My Take," hosts Big Cat and PFT Commenter delve into a variety of sports topics, including the decline of the Dallas Cowboys, college football rankings, and the struggles of the New York Jets. The episode features a special guest, Pat Bev, who shares insights from his time playing basketball in Israel. The discussion is punctuated with humor, engaging debates, and notable quotes that encapsulate the hosts' perspectives.

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Dallas Cowboys: The Decline Continues

The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about the Dallas Cowboys' recent performances, highlighting their lackluster play and dwindling fan enthusiasm.

• Big Cat [02:33]: "I'm good with not having to watch the Cowboys anymore. They're really bad."
• Hank [02:57]: Reflects on the chaos surrounding Dallas games, noting, "[...] they're on prime time, and it sucks."

The hosts lament the Cowboys' inability to put together a cohesive team, criticizing both management and player performances.

• Big Cat [03:30]: "I mean, he's like in late stage, like dementia. Like he's given these press conferences after."

They discuss the quarterback situation, expressing frustration over Cooper Rush and the unused potential of Trey Lance.

• Hank [03:43]: "Why don't they start Trey Lance?"
• Big Cat [04:00]: "He's probably not good, but why not?"

The conversation underscores a broader disappointment with the Cowboys' organizational decisions and on-field results.

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Houston Texans and San Diego Chargers: Second Tier AFC

Shifting focus to other NFL teams, the hosts evaluate the standings and prospects of the Houston Texans and the San Diego Chargers.

• Hank [05:03]: "And the Texans get a little mojo going with just never trailing in that game."
• Big Cat [05:36]: "But the Texans, like, I just don't know. I feel like they just don't have enough against a Bills, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs."

Memes interject humorously, keeping the conversation lively while assessing the Chargers' potential.

• Big Cat [05:57]: "But hold on. I think it's higher than that."
• Memes [06:19]: "Zero fear. Okay?"

The discussion reflects a realistic outlook on these teams' abilities to compete against top-tier opponents.

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College Football Rankings: Indiana's Unexpected Rise

The podcast transitions to college football, where the hosts present their playoff rankings and analyze the unexpected performance of the Indiana Hoosiers.

• Big Cat [26:02]: "Here is the playoff bracket: 1 seed Oregon, 2 seed Texas, 3 seed Miami, 4 seed Boise State."
• Hank [27:02]: "Indiana fans still have a right to be upset. [...] they're about to play Ohio State."

They express support for Indiana, criticizing media bias and emphasizing the team's need to prove themselves against strong opponents.

• Big Cat [29:06]: "Let them play Ohio State before we say Indiana shouldn't be in."
• Hank [29:06]: "I don't think this is a fluke either. I think Signetti is a real deal."

The hosts advocate for fair assessment of teams based on actual game performance rather than historical reputations.

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NBA Cup and Team Performance Analysis

A segment on the NBA Cup follows, where the hosts discuss the format changes and evaluate team strategies and performances.

• Memes [52:04]: "I do like the NBA Cup. It makes the games that much more interesting."
• Big Cat [52:57]: "We release our picks on socials every single Tuesday for our NBA cup picks."

They critique the aesthetics of team jerseys and the overall appeal of the NBA Cup to casual fans, blending insights with light-hearted banter.

• Memes [53:10]: "I don't think it's ever going to click to a casual fan."
• Big Cat [53:30]: "I like it because it feels different."

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Hot Seat and Cool Throne: Interactive Segments

Incorporating interactive elements, the hosts engage in the "Hot Seat" and "Cool Throne" segments, featuring humorous takes and listener participation.

• Memes [56:36]: "My hot seat is John Stamos."
• Big Cat [56:56]: "You have two cool thrones. I thought I was gonna be okay, and I'm... turns out I'm not."

These segments add a layer of entertainment, allowing listeners to connect with the hosts through shared jokes and pop culture references.

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Guest Interview: Pat Bev on International Play and NBA Insights

The highlight of the episode is the interview with Pat Bev, who discusses his experience playing basketball in Israel and reflects on his NBA career.

• Pat Bev [91:30]: "It’s easier, but I get everyone's best shot."
• Big Cat [92:27]: "So you’re playing overseas because you have to, not because you want to?"

Pat Bev provides a unique perspective on international leagues, emphasizing the different styles of play and cultural experiences.

• Pat Bev [93:42]: "I work my ass off. [...] I don’t think that’s fair. That’s the reason why..."
• Big Cat [95:56]: "He has MVP numbers. What do you want me to say?"

He also touches on team dynamics, leadership, and the importance of maintaining professionalism, offering valuable insights for both players and fans.

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Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

The episode concludes with the hosts reflecting on the discussions, reiterating key points about team performances, and teasing upcoming content.

• Big Cat [143:10]: "We got pardon your take Henry."
• Memes [144:07]: "I have been saying, we've been talking about this all day in the office."

They encourage listeners to engage with the podcast through social media and subscriptions, ensuring continued interaction beyond the episode.

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Notable Quotes:

• Big Cat [04:21]: "We discount the MVP conversation. Just becomes the team the quarterback of the team on the one seat. That sucks."
• Hank [10:27]: "You don't wanna let the turbo, you don’t wanna let the turbo get away on that win criterion."
• Pat Bev [97:57]: "Any team, right? Any team. [...] I'm not gassing myself, but, you know, my work has been shown in NBA."

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Conclusion

This episode of "Pardon My Take" offers a comprehensive look into current sports narratives, blending serious analysis with the hosts' signature humor. From the faltering Cowboys to the surprising rise of Indiana in college football, and an enlightening conversation with Pat Bev, listeners are treated to an engaging and informative episode that caters to diverse sports interests.

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Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

You pick a McDouble or a McChicken.

[Big Cat]

Then get a small fry, a small drink and a four piece McNuggets.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a lot of McDonald's for not.

[Big Cat]

A lot of money. Price and participation may vary. For a limited time only. On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Pat Bev Patrick Beverly in studio talking some ball with him. He's back from Israel for 10 days. A little break in the action. Talk some ball with him. Talk Joel Embiid maybe trouble in paradise in in Philadelphia we got hot seat Cool Throne college football rankings. We have two weeks and then conference championship week left in the season. We're getting down to it. Big time debates going on. We're going to talk Monday Night Football. The Cowboys are dead. And then we have pardon your take with some really good ones. And it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. The NBA is finally back. Here's a way to get even more into the action following your favorite players playing pick six from DraftKings, an official partner of the NBA. It's super simple to get started. First, download the DraftKings pick six app. Then select two or more players and choose if they'll have more or less of a stat like points, rebounds, three pointers and more. Track your picks for a shot at huge cash prizes. That's all there is to it. Pick six is available in most states, including California, Texas, Georgia, Missouri and more. And for all first time pick six players. Check this out. New customers play $5, get $50 and pick six credits. Hoop it up all season long with the newest, most fun way to play fantasy sports. Pick six from DraftKings download the DraftKings pick six app now and use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to play $5 and get $50 in pick six credits only on DraftKings pick six. The crown is yours. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- gambler must be 18 and over. Age and eligibility restrictions vary by jurisdiction.

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[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

And my team. I I think that's a convenient excuse because I don't think that they would ever flex the Cowboys. Because what you could get with any Dallas game is exactly what you got last night, which is chaos. The building falling apart in Dallas before the game, and it's still got 17 million viewers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, I mean, that's Monday Night Football, too. Yeah.

[Hank]

But also prime time games. Monday Night Football, Sunday Night Football.

[Big Cat]

I'm good with not having to watch the Cowboys anymore. They're really bad. Listen, they're not even fun bad.

[Hank]

I am, too. But guess what? People in general are going to watch the Dallas Cowboys if they're on prime time. That's the thing about them, and it sucks. But the Simpsons broadcast, that'll be fun to see the team just completely implode as I hope that Mike McCarthy is either chief Wiggum. That'd be the perfect fit as Chief Wiggum, or maybe just Smithers on the sideline and Mr. Burns needs to be Jerry Jones.

[Big Cat]

I mean, I'm going to have to watch that. That broadcast because it's going to suck having to watch the Cowboys again. It's just not. It's not fun. Cooper Rush, not fun.

[Hank]

Why are. Why don't they start Trey Lance?

[Big Cat]

He's probably not good, but it's.

[Hank]

He's not Cooper Rush.

[Big Cat]

Right. But he's probably not good, but why not?

[Hank]

At this point, I think.

[Big Cat]

I think you got to be at least, like, there's a level of competency that maybe he hasn't achieved, I guess.

[Hank]

But, I mean, you traded a draft pick for him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What was it, like, a seventh rounder?

[Hank]

No, I think it's higher than that.

[Big Cat]

Was it?

[Hank]

Yeah, I mean, I.

[Big Cat]

Stupid.

[Hank]

I don't think that's that uncommon of a take to say that they should just try to start Trey Lance.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm sure they will at some point. It was a fourth rounder, and I'm sure they will at some point. I just. I would assume he's. There's got to be a reason he's not playing.

[Hank]

You know what the saddest part?

[Big Cat]

Like, I think they will now, maybe because he's. They're so bad and it's over. But I think they. This was the last moment where they're like, hey, maybe we'll win a game and. And change it around. It's just. It's not there.

[Hank]

You know what the saddest part to me is? Watching Cooper Rush play quarterback for this team. When he does the. Here we go. That Dak does the Dak. He needs to come up with his own cadence.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Don't just try to do like a cover of Dak Prescott's already annoying. Here we go.

[Big Cat]

It's very, very bad. Yeah, the Cowboys are very, very bad. Jerry's very. He's. I feel like the fans have fully turned on him. He's, like in late stage, like dementia. Like, weird. Like he's, you know, he's given these press conferences after. He's like, I've been here for bad teams and, you know, bad years happens. Like, yeah, we get it, but this team sucks. And you had no contingent. And they're getting hit. It's getting hidden by the fact that Dak Prescott got hurt. They sucked before that.

[Hank]

Oh, well, before. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Their defense stinks.

[Big Cat]

This isn't just a. Dak Prescott got hurt. Our year went to shit. It was bad before that.

[Hank]

Yeah, it was already bad. You're running back. Your play at the running back position from week one was awful. Yeah, they just. Yeah, they. Bad team.

[Big Cat]

And the Texans get a little. Right. Get a little mojo going. Right. With just never trailing in that game. Just whooping up on them. That's got to feel good.

[Hank]

That first play should have counted.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know.

[Hank]

It was such a good first play, too.

[Big Cat]

It also was just classic for Laramie Tunsil. They probably practiced that play all week. And then he was like. He just didn't do it right.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

King of penalties. But, yeah, the Texans, like, I don't really know where. I think the Texans are still in that second tier in the AFC where they could maybe win a playoff game. I just don't know. I feel like they just don't have enough against a Bills, Ravens, Steelers, Chiefs.

[Hank]

So Chargers, Chargers.

[Memes]

Like what you just described is the Chargers second tier.

[Big Cat]

No, I was. You didn't let me finish. Thanks for waking up, Hank. You didn't let me finish. I was going to say Chargers.

[Hank]

The.

[Memes]

Hank might be a clock at night.

[Hank]

Hank was saying he might put a juicy little future on the Chargers. That'd be a sharp bet. He's rolling me. That'd be a sharp bet.

[Big Cat]

You're going to be so mad if the Chargers win a playoff game.

[Memes]

No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you will. Yeah, you will. You'll get a little bit upset.

[Memes]

Zero fear.

[Big Cat]

Okay?

[Hank]

So if you're the Cowboys. One thing I didn't understand last night, your season's over, Right?

[Big Cat]

You don't.

[Hank]

You're not going to. You're not going to win anything. You've long since given up on that. Why not just let Brandon Aubrey have that 64 yard field?

[Big Cat]

He. Dude, he, like, barely even kicked it.

[Hank]

It looked like a practice kick.

[Big Cat]

It was nuts.

[Hank]

I understand the idea that. Okay, they called a penalty. Which, by the way.

[Big Cat]

No, no. Never take points off the board.

[Hank]

Never take points off the board.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, a long time ago.

[Hank]

Yeah, Coach, you know, you don't want to take three points. You never know what could happen. Yeah, but you got your drive extended so you're trying to score a touchdown. But as a Bears fan, did that piss you off? That they called slap to the head, which hasn't been called in decades.

[Big Cat]

No, listen, Matty.

[Hank]

And they already call. He already running over the center's face.

[Big Cat]

He sent it into the league. I'm sure we'll fix everything. I don't like you, Hank. I'm stuck on the Chargers thing. By the way, you just named five.

[Memes]

AFC teams and you didn't name the Chargers.

[Big Cat]

But hold on.

[Memes]

The way you describ. It was the perfect version of the Chargers where they might win a playoff game. They're not beating the Chiefs.

[Big Cat]

What was the, like, what was the original bet, though? I said that. Now I obviously believe in them fully, but the original bet that we all put in together was I don't think the Chargers are going to win the Super Bowl. But they are at 45 to 1. Insane odds. Because they're a playoff team and they could play. They could basically beat anyone in a one game elimination setup.

[Memes]

And then I've been telling you, like, you're going to cash out.

[Big Cat]

Right. So then we agree. We agree to disagree. JB Bielis. No, Jay Bellis. Agree to disagree. Disengage.

[Memes]

You're disagreeing with yourself. No, you're just being disagreeing with your past self.

[Big Cat]

That's true. So that happens all the time.

[Memes]

And you're taking out on me.

[Hank]

Well, I feel like you're arguing with a ghost right now. You're arguing with someone that doesn't exist anymore.

[Big Cat]

Cat's correct logic.

[Hank]

That was old Big Cat.

[Memes]

Correct logic is arguing with his.

[Big Cat]

I'm arguing. I'm taking out on you because I feel like. I feel like the Chargers are basically the only thing you care about now. No, because you were trolling me before and like, I think it's giving you life. So. Actually, you should know. We talked about it.

[Memes]

We did talk about it on the show. It's like when you cash out a future, you're not gonna roof for it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're rooting against. But you should thank me for giving you life. You have purpose.

[Memes]

I mean, you have an abusive relationship.

[Hank]

Right here, front front row tickets to Gaslighting.

[Big Cat]

Well, he. He reverse gaslit me.

[Memes]

Oh, there we go.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah, let's keep going.

[Memes]

Me reverse light gaslighting uses you saying things that you said previously.

[Big Cat]

Sorry. You know what? I want to talk to Max and Max only. Sorry that I came up with a bet that all the boys could ride on and we could have fun and root for it together. And then half of the boys cashed out. Sorry, Sorry. I was rooting for that.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I'm still in.

[Big Cat]

Thank you, Max. I. I thought it would be fun.

[Memes]

No, no, you didn't let him play the butt.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, no, my butt was going to be the. Before the show, we were all silent. Then Hank just whispers into the mic. He goes, chargers are pretty good.

[Big Cat]

Yes. See, he's trolling me. Yes. That's.

[PFT Commenter]

No one was talking, correct?

[Big Cat]

Just was like, he's trolling me.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the charge.

[Big Cat]

Can you at least admit that? Pft. I know you're taking Hank side, but he's trolling me.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah, no shit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, I mean, he is, but I can't do someone who's trolling me. Sorry that I did something that we all could do together. And then like, listen, I know I got Max. Max will always have my back. Everyone else just bailed on me.

[Hank]

Listen, I have not had a good gambling season, and responsibly, I cashed out of it. Jerry got way madder than you about the cash. Jerry approached me one on one, pulled me aside and had a sit down with me about why I would cash out on his Steelers, and I didn't have a good answer for him.

[Big Cat]

No, I'm not mad. I just liked. It was fun to do it as a crew. It was fun to do it as a crew. Travis Hunter has been fun for us. It was fun to do it as a crew. And then I found out just. We don't do it as a crew. I like friendship, but you.

[PFT Commenter]

You cash out of Travis Hunter too.

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

Absolutely not. Diamond Hands.

[Big Cat]

Because I can't. They literally won't give it one. If there was, they would have.

[Hank]

I'd be lying if I said I didn't check DraftKings three times a day to see if they've given me an option to cash out on Travis Hunter or an option the two of us draft out to cash out on Lamar Jackson.

[Big Cat]

Two of us will do friend bets together. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Love it.

[Big Cat]

We'll ride.

[Memes]

Can he cash out or no?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, if we. If we talk about it. We did say if he. If he says, hey, remember how we talked about this? I'm going to cash out. I'd Be like, yeah, you guys cash out for a loss. The whole point was to cash out for a win.

[Hank]

I don't know if I did.

[Big Cat]

Yes, you did. You 100% did. There's no chance. No chance. No chance.

[Hank]

So Cowboys. Texans. The Texans.

[Big Cat]

I don't even care about this game. That game sucked. What are we even pretending about?

[Hank]

I just want to say that the Texans, you said that they're in that second tier with the Chargers, and Chargers are in the first tier. I think that the Texans are exactly the same type of team that they were last year. The difference is that C.J. stroud's in his second season. I think everybody, everybody expected them to be in that top tier of the afc. And because they're just a very good team, we're like kind of silently disappointed in them.

[Big Cat]

Well, their offensive line is not great and they've obviously had some injuries. It's good that Nico's back because he's awesome. I. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I do think that we just expected CJ Shroud to go into infinity. Like, oh, that was his rookie year. He'll just be the best quarterback of all time.

[Hank]

Yeah, he's. He. We expected him to be better than Patrick Mahomes.

[Big Cat]

He's just what he is, which is a good quarterback.

[Hank]

Yeah, I think he's very good quarterback.

[Big Cat]

Had an up and down year. There's been some not great games.

[Hank]

They haven't really blown any. Have they blown anybody out? I. I just remember the Texans, I mean, last night. Yeah. Being in a shitload of close games, especially against teams that they should have blown out.

[Big Cat]

No, they have not really blown anyone out. No, they had. Oh, they. They blew out the Patriots. 41, 21.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

What did you just do? Hang.

[Memes]

You're right.

[Big Cat]

It was for a loss.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The whole point was to do it for a win.

[Hank]

I got even money. Max investment.

[Big Cat]

No chance. Sure?

[Hank]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'll look it up.

[Big Cat]

Highly doubt.

[Memes]

I'm pretty sure it's the same exact odds, though.

[Hank]

If I didn't get.

[Big Cat]

You and I will talk. We'll have a strategy, the two of us, just boys.

[PFT Commenter]

I promise. I'm not cashing out.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

But if we do so little money.

[Big Cat]

We'll do it together. We'll do it together. We'll turn the key together.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

It'll be a great experience.

[Hank]

I don't want to look through this sea of red. I'm lost.

[Big Cat]

Pretty sure you probably.

[Hank]

So here's what I'll guarantee. It was the exact same cash out that they offered me right when I put the bet in.

[Big Cat]

So that's.

[Hank]

That's minus 10%.

[Big Cat]

That's minus money.

[Hank]

Minus 10%. Yeah. Good investment.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so other things clean up from Sunday. I wanted to point out this stat from our friend Ben. Baby, this one's crazy. Through the first 11 games on the 4 and 7 Bengals, Joe Burrow has 3,028 passing yards, 27 touchdowns, and 5 interceptions. Players to achieve 3,000 passing yards, 27 touchdowns and 5 or fewer interceptions through the first 11 games. Here they are. Tom Brady, 2007 and 2015. His teams were 16, 0 and 13. 3. Aaron Rodgers, 2011, 2020. His teams were 15 and 1, 13 and 3. Patrick Mahomes, 20. 2014 and 2. Drew Brees, 2018, 13. 3. This entire exercise is just to prove that Joe Burrow is having an insane season and the rest of his team has let him down.

[Hank]

Yeah, it sucks.

[Big Cat]

It sucks. That's every single. I mean, the lowest amount of wins was 13 and 3 of that list. I just said. And he's in a list with Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, Patrick Mahomes, and Drew Brees, and they're four and seven.

[Hank]

We should start talking more about Joe Burrow being the mvp.

[Big Cat]

All right. You're trolling me too, now.

[Hank]

I mean, if they go on a little run.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you just gotta live to get trolled.

[Hank]

Hank. Hank, you've seen these stats from Joe Burrow.

[Big Cat]

I have.

[Hank]

And if he finishes. If he finishes first in the league. Listen, my biggest crime here, by the.

[Big Cat]

Way, first in the league, being early to all of these takes that. That actually have value. First in the league, Chargers, Travis Hunter. Joe, bro. Mvp. Who told you about all three of those a month and a half ago, smart guy? That's my crime. That is my crime. I mean, he has MVP numbers. What do you want me to say?

[Hank]

He is having an outstanding season.

[Big Cat]

Sorry. I know. Ball.

[Memes]

If they make the playoffs, he would be in the conversation.

[Big Cat]

No, probably not. Because he's, like, the sixth seed now. And I also. I mean, that was.

[Memes]

Yeah, but if he made the playoffs, it was so impressive that I.

[Big Cat]

He should be. I. We discount the MVP conversation. Just becomes the team. The quarterback of the team on the one seat. That sucks.

[Memes]

But I think if his stats were all one and they somehow went on a run to make the playoffs, it would be different.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I agree. If he goes on, like, a meet, like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, if they run the table.

[PFT Commenter]

If they run the table and, like, finally sneak in and he has, like, insane numbers, he would definitely win.

[Big Cat]

I'd feel vindicated.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you still in on that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What's the number you got there?

[Big Cat]

15.

[PFT Commenter]

It's 20 now.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

So I might get in.

[Big Cat]

I might get in, might get right out.

[Memes]

I might do it. Parlay.

[Big Cat]

I'm done. I'm done saying my takes that actually end up being good, that have value.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that one now makes a lot of sense.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you guys are welcome for telling you about Travis Hunter.

[Hank]

Okay. I had had that conversation with Brandon Walker that day. That's why I thank you for bringing it up, because I was going to bring it up on this very show, and Brandon tried to talk me out of Travis Hunter.

[Big Cat]

He's been a Travis Hunter hater.

[Hank]

I know.

[Big Cat]

For the whole year.

[Hank]

I know. Okay, so let's start talking about when dumbass straight from you, Brandon Walker is you.

[Big Cat]

Hank, I.

[Memes]

Okay, all right, now, I won't. That. Whatever.

[Big Cat]

You know what? I'm gonna keep my takes to myself.

[Memes]

Whatever. Whatever.

[Big Cat]

I'm just gonna tweet him out.

[Memes]

I was paying you a compliment.

[Big Cat]

I, I, I can't trust anything you say now.

[Memes]

That's not nice.

[Big Cat]

I can't. I feel like I'm Max right now.

[Memes]

I'm being honest. My opinion.

[Big Cat]

Great. Is honest. Greatest honesty, maximum.

[PFT Commenter]

He's never honest.

[Big Cat]

Okay, thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

[Hank]

I love this.

[PFT Commenter]

Everything he does on that, everything's a troll.

[Big Cat]

I speak facts.

[Memes]

What if I please, like, point to me a fact that I've said that's been false.

[PFT Commenter]

When you sat down on that couch before we were recording, you were just like, I think Chargers future is a good bet.

[Hank]

We should build a little bridge that goes above Hank's head on that wall behind there. Little troll guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Troll? Trolls live here?

[Hank]

Yeah. Don't feed the troll. I do love the new partnership, though, that Max and the big cat bridge.

[PFT Commenter]

I just took Joe Burrow 20 to 1, by the way.

[Big Cat]

Okay, no, what we should talk about before we talk college football is that guy over there that's just not said a word for the whole show. He's just watching the chaos, loving the chaos, thinking maybe, maybe, maybe they'll forget the fact that the jets fired their GM in the middle of the season and this is now just. I mean, even for the jets, everything that's happened, it's just. There's such a dumpster fire. Memes. Joe Douglas gets fired. Is this the thing that will fix everything?

[Max]

No, because he was. He was pretty much. This was his final season. He had six games left.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah. So that the timing of it makes absolutely no sense. I still don't understand it.

[Big Cat]

They want to get a jump on him.

[Hank]

They fired their GM six weeks before the season's over. What was he going to be doing in those six weeks?

[Big Cat]

Well, I think you want to fire someone so that you can start your draft prep with someone who's actually going to be there to draft them, I guess.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But, I mean, they're scouting right now.

[Max]

A bunch of reports came out that he pretty much wasn't the GM for the past nine months.

[Big Cat]

Oh, who was?

[Max]

It was Woody Johnson. He just. He went. He took full control of the team.

[Hank]

Okay. So that's awesome memes. I don't know if you had a chance to see this report. Just came out, like, five minutes before we started taping that Woody Johnson tried to bench Aaron Rodgers after the Broncos game and that Joe Douglas talked him out of it.

[Max]

Who reported that?

[Hank]

Let me look it up. It was on the Athletic.

[Max]

I mean, I. I believe you because apparently there's. There's a bunch of reports coming out.

[Hank]

It's Diana Rossini and Zach Rosenblatt.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's a half a Rosini.

[Hank]

Jets owner Woody Johnson suggested benching Aaron Rodgers in September, per sources, and apparently Douglas talked him out of it and all the other. So after that game, Woody Johnson summoned every coach to the office to explain to him what went wrong. Like defense coordinator, head coach, offense coordinator, whatever it is Nathaniel Hackett does. He was in the room, too. Joe Douglas was there. And they asked. He asked them to explain themselves. And then he said, well, what about benching Aaron Rodgers right now? And they said, are you serious? They asked him if he was serious, and he was.

[Max]

I kind of believe it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Because everything that's coming out, I mean, this guy's just an asshole.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's. The jets are just. I mean, is Aaron Rodgers just the coach ngm right now?

[Max]

No, he's gone too.

[Big Cat]

Fully.

[Max]

Fully. He's gone.

[Big Cat]

Where's he going to go? Is he the Titans quarterback?

[Hank]

And Titans would be a good fit for him.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that would be fun. Because he could win the AFC South. Maybe. Maybe. Probably not.

[Max]

I think he might walk across to the other locker room.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

The Giants?

[Big Cat]

He loves New York.

[Max]

Look, if you look at which teams need a quarterback.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God, I didn't even think about that.

[Max]

They improved their line. They have some receivers. Their defensive line is good.

[Big Cat]

He doesn't have to move.

[Max]

Doesn't have to move.

[Big Cat]

He loves New York.

[Max]

And then somebody else threw out the Panthers, but he wouldn't go to The Panthers.

[Big Cat]

No way.

[Pat Beverly]

No.

[Big Cat]

That's beneath him.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wait, the Giants.

[Hank]

The Giants. Intriguing.

[Big Cat]

I could see. And you know how this is going to work. Memes, right?

[Max]

Yeah. He'll be good again.

[Big Cat]

He'll be very good for at least one year. He's going to go. So if he goes to the Giants, he'll be awesome for a year. Then he'll. It'll be over. But he'll have one year just to. Because he basically will just have a chip on his shoulder. That's really. What. If you break down what happened with Aaron Rodgers, I know everyone goes with the Achilles, and the Achilles obviously ended that season. The biggest reason that Aaron Rodgers didn't work in the jets is because the Achilles took away his chip on his shoulder year. Yeah. The guy is great when he has a chip on his shoulder. He had it from Green Bay. He got hurt, couldn't play. The chip on the shoulder goes away. Now he's got a year where he doesn't have to prove anything. Next year is his chip on his shoulder year for the Jets.

[Hank]

If you want a chip on his shoulder, he should have just taken the vax.

[Big Cat]

It's true.

[Hank]

Now, if he goes to the Giants, that would be. It would be a troll move, too. And I know that he loves his next move. Might just be to piss off whoever his most recent enemy is. And in this case, it would be the Jets. I feel like that would piss the jets off the most. Right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

100.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that could happen.

[Max]

That could. That could happen. I was just looking at the list of teams and there's not, there's not many suitors. People were saying the vikings, but no, McCarthy's gonna.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

Start when he's healthy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It's like whichever team doesn't get Sam Darnold.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Max]

And then people were saying, jets get Daniel Jones.

[Big Cat]

But. What.

[PFT Commenter]

Why?

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Max]

Getting thrown around yesterday.

[Big Cat]

That's just, that's just people trying to get to you. Yeah.

[Max]

They're making.

[Big Cat]

That's the people doing the Mike McCarthy to the Bears. You can't let that get to you.

[Max]

It's just, It's a bad situation.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I walked past earlier in the office. A, There was a huddle. Memes were sitting.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Like, he's just, he's perfect. I, I'm starting to see through Max's eyes, and it just feels good. Okay.

[Memes]

Go ahead.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yes.

[Max]

I, I, I saw it hang. You want to ask a question this entire time?

[Big Cat]

It's my favorite part of, like, I love, I love what you add to everything. Go ahead. This isn't a troll, okay?

[Memes]

This is a report.

[Max]

No, yeah, I know what I say.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Please report.

[Memes]

I can't. I literally can't even speak.

[Hank]

I'm sorry.

[Big Cat]

Go ahead. I want to hear your report.

[Memes]

Giving a report.

[Big Cat]

I want to hear your.

[Memes]

I like. This is an eyewitness report. Support from you. From me.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

My eyes witnessed this and heard.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

Memes were sitting around a table with the, like, pug, Liam, his guys, four other people, his crew. What are you guys huddling? And everyone's standing around. Memes were sitting down, showing all the power. And I was like, what are you guys doing? And they said they're fixing the Jets.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Me, Blotman.

[Memes]

What is the plan?

[Max]

Fixing the Jets.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so go ahead.

[Memes]

Is that a troll?

[Max]

No, that's not a troll. We came up with a bunch of different scenarios. Condoleezza Rice was at, like, one of the crazier scenarios.

[Hank]

Okay, one of the crazier scenarios.

[Max]

Yeah. We went through as many scenarios as you could. Just Justin Fields is one of the options.

[Big Cat]

I would say. No, it's not gonna. No, that will not fix you as a bridge quarterback. No, that will not fix you.

[Max]

The best scenario was Mike Rabel is coach. Kevin Stefani gets fired from the Browns. He becomes the O.C.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

You bring in James as the bridge.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Max]

And then Super Bowl.

[Hank]

Wait, but who's the new quarterback? Has to be something at the other side of the bridge.

[Big Cat]

James.

[Max]

James.

[Hank]

But he's the bridge.

[Big Cat]

The bridge.

[Max]

No, but the bridge is also a Super.

[Big Cat]

Bowl.

[Hank]

Every super bowl in a rebuilding year. Okay, got it.

[Max]

But it's not. It's. It's a rebuilding year, but it's not at the same time because the roster is still good. We just don't have a quarterback.

[PFT Commenter]

There's another name that you told me that you want, and that's Sam Darnold.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Max]

Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold got thrown out there, too. It was dark. We're in dark times.

[Hank]

I think we asked you about that, like, a week ago, and you puked memes.

[Max]

But that's just as a bridge. And none of this is going to happen because we're just going to draft someone who's going to suck memes.

[Hank]

You know, that's the difference between, like, American sports fans and European sports. European sports fans, if. If they had a Jets doing this to them, they would riot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

There would be, like, stones thrown at cars. They would not. They don't put up with over there.

[Max]

No, you're Right.

[Hank]

We just take.

[Max]

People just keep buying tickets, keep buying jerseys. We haven't made the playoffs in 14 years. I went my entire 20s without seeing the jets in a playoff. It just. It's. It's tough.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

And nothing's going to change because the owner is still the same.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

We can say, Hank.

[Memes]

No, that's. That sucks. I didn't think about the twenties. That's.

[Hank]

What were your twenties like?

[Memes]

Hey, there's a decade to win. It's your twenties. But that's all right. Thirties are fun, too.

[Big Cat]

Thirties are fun, too. Are you thirty?

[Max]

I'm turning.

[Big Cat]

When?

[Max]

March.

[Big Cat]

So you got to win a playoff game this year.

[Memes]

Where your whole twenties.

[Hank]

Whole twenties.

[Max]

They haven't been in the playoffs since I was a sophomore in high school.

[Big Cat]

Hank, stop. Stop it.

[Hank]

Hank Wild.

[Big Cat]

Stop it.

[Memes]

I hope. I hope. I hope memes that you get to see the playoff one. I truly do.

[Max]

I don't think. I don't think it could ever happen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Well, you. Yeah. You got to figure out coach, too. And your. Your number one is Rabes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, memes. I've been to the playoffs, but. Yeah. I mean, we're not. We've talked about it. It's the same dis. Dysfunction happens in both places. They're a little bit different because the jets do a. The jets dysfunction is more all in, and then they fall on their face. The Bears dysfunction is more, hey, let's hope we catch lightning in a bottle every now and then. And then it up like you guys actually take a shot.

[Max]

Yeah. Well, that's the one thing about this year we did.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

You do appreciate the effort of trying to go all correct.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Max]

But it was just the biggest disaster of all time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, man. What are you gonna say, man, Playoffs are overrated. Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You just. Well, Hank's not allowed to say that.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Because losing sucks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Getting to the playoffs, getting your hopes up and then losing is so much pain.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

But going on a run is so much fun.

[Hank]

Yeah. Getting to the playoffs is fun.

[PFT Commenter]

You got.

[Hank]

I. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

This is loser talk. Yes. 100%, Hank. Guilty as charged, Hank.

[Memes]

Playoffs are overrated.

[Big Cat]

There you go. That's okay.

[Memes]

Being mediocre bad. I feel great.

[Big Cat]

All right. Speaking of playoffs, should we talk some college football? Should we talk some college football? We have the rankings out. The rankings. Let me. I just had them in front of me, and then they just lost them. Here they are. It is right now. The playoff bracket would be 1 seed Oregon, 2 seed Texas, 3 seed Miami, 4 seed Boise State. Because BYU just lost. Then it would be home game for Ohio State against byu, home game for Notre Dame against Alabama. That would be awesome. Home game for Penn State against Georgia and home game for Indiana versus Ole Miss. So we're two weeks, three weeks really, because we have the conference championships away from the first 12 team playoff bracket. I like how everyone's getting upset. What are your initial thoughts? Pft.

[Hank]

My initial thoughts are it's fun to be mad about a hypothetical list that will ultimately look much different in two weeks. So yeah, get your anger out somehow. It's probably.

[Big Cat]

There's a lot less.

[Hank]

It's probably healthy to get some of this anger that's pent up out. There is some anger that I guess could be pointed towards. Who would you say would be like the most undeserving higher seed? A lot of people are looking at Ohio State. Indiana. Because they're about to play this weekend.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Indiana fans still have a right to be upset. Get, here's what I'll say about Indiana. Get all of your hatred out right now. Enjoy attacking the media for underrating you because you don't know what's going to happen. There's a good chance you get your ass kicked by Ohio State this weekend. So take this time. Savor every moment of hate that you get to have at the committee for not treating you properly with enough respect. Because.

[Big Cat]

Well, I think they're ranked fine right now if you look at it.

[Hank]

But I mean, they, they don't have a loss. You play who you play. We talk.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but, but this is also remember this is the rankings for the, the automatic qualifiers are one through four.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So they're ranked fine. Like, you see what I'm saying? Like Boise is not, Boise is not ranked higher than Indiana right now. They just are the automatic qualifier.

[Hank]

No, I know that Indiana's ranked fifth.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Where else would you rank them? I mean, Penn State would be the only gripe you'd have, but like, yeah, I would. I, I think Indiana's ranked fine right now. The problem with Indiana is that Greg Sankey made a call to all of media on Monday and had everyone in the media bash them when they have their big game coming up against Ohio State. And that makes no sense to me. Indiana has not played anyone. Indiana is an awesome story. Indiana is an underdog story. I'm rooting for Indiana. Let them at least go play Ohio State before we say Indiana sucks. Like that was my problem. They have the game to play. They're gonna play the game on Saturday. Let Indiana go play Themselves if they get killed. I have no problem if people want to say the Indiana with one loss shouldn't be in the playoffs. Like, I really won't if they get killed because they have not played anyone. But I want to see them play and compete. And I think they're going to hold them. I think they're going to do a good job hold staying in this game and maybe winning this game.

[Hank]

Yeah. So Indiana this weekend, I want them to win. I'm rooting for Indiana because I'm a fan of chaos, first and foremost, when it comes to all this college football talk. I'm rooting for the double doomsday scenario where the Big 12 doesn't even get anybody in that would. That is a possibility. It's unlikely.

[Big Cat]

It's very, it's pretty unlikely.

[Hank]

But it could happen. I mean, at the start of the season, we were saying that there's, there's no chance that a group of five gets a buy in the playoff. Yeah, but that's become a possibility.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Now we're realizing that the double doomsday is also a possibility. I think if you're an SEC team, if you're, if you end up with two losses and you're an SEC team, you really don't have a right to complain about anything unless you're Georgia, potentially.

[Big Cat]

Georgia played a gauntlet schedule.

[Hank]

Potentially Georgia.

[Big Cat]

Now I understand that.

[Hank]

No, I think Georgia might, they might be the best team in the country.

[Big Cat]

Right. And they played. They, they did. They played Clemson, non conference. They had to play all their tough games on the road. I, George is the only one. But like, the big thing is, my big takeaway from this entire week is everyone. Again, I think there was a coordinated hit against Indiana, which makes no sense to me because this is the last time they can say strength of schedule. Their strength of schedule is about to get a lot better because they're going to play Ohio State this weekend in Columbus. Let them play on the field before we say they shouldn't be in. If they get smoked on Saturday, then I'm fine, they shouldn't be in. But let them actually play. And like when, since when did we not like these underdog stories? Actually, I kind of know the answer to that. It's pretty much the minute the underdog takes the blue bloods away, which is like what happens in all sports. Like we, we root for the underdog and then if the blue blood blood gets squeezed out, we're like, no, we don't want this underdog anymore. Texas and Penn State have been hiding behind their resumes for the entire time. And no one's saying anything about that.

[Hank]

Texas is hiding behind just like a multi decade resume.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

At this point. Because if Texas loses, if they. They should be out, then they should be out, right?

[Big Cat]

Yes, 100%.

[Hank]

A2 lost Texas team.

[Big Cat]

They have no big wins.

[Hank]

They don't have their best win is what? Michigan?

[Big Cat]

No. Vanderbilt.

[Hank]

Vanderbilt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. And Penn State is the same way. I know, Max, you don't like hearing that. But Penn State like 100%, they're hiding in place. Like the, the, the ire has been at Indiana when it's like how about Texas and Penn State?

[PFT Commenter]

I have been saying, we've been talking about this all day in the office. I need Ohio State to beat the shit out of Indiana.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Because then that problems arise for Penn State, I think.

[Big Cat]

Right. If Indiana wins this game or. Yeah, because there could be. Yeah. But Texas. Penn State will not lose a game.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably for I think Minnesota this weekend.

[Big Cat]

That's not easy. Yeah. That's not easy. And then they play, I think finished with Maryland. Texas could easily lose Texas A and M. It is a mess everywhere. I just didn't like the coordinated hit on Indiana and I do have something very funny to share with you guys. This made me laugh. So Indiana Twitter shout out them. They've been fighting really hard and they've been going after people and I respect it. This guy fifth ranked Indiana edits. I'm just gonna assume he's a stoolie. Maybe not. But anyway, he said he posted a group chat with his friends that said we need to get Dan Dak involved in this SEC fight. Let's bring out the big guns. Got to find a way to show the SEC is woke. And then Chris Duplant wrote. He quote, tweeted Rossilo and McShay talking. He said, hey Dakota, the west coast California liberals are trying to steal another election. Handing out a participation trophy to a two loss SEC team is utter woke nonsense. Do something. And then like five minutes quote, treated the same tweet and said dudes that were. This is about Priscilla McShay. Dudes that were never in a locker room other than to take a peek, get an autograph or take a picture. He just like, mission accomplished. Got him.

[Memes]

Played college football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It was a quarterback, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. But it was so funny. They weaponized Dan. I mean you do it.

[Hank]

Rossilla lives in lockdown locker rooms. They're usually at an equinox, but he's always in locker room.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I just loved it. So shout out Indiana fans fighting the good fight on Twitter.

[Hank]

I also love Joe Galloway.

[Big Cat]

This is like.

[Hank]

This is brain rot.

[Pat Beverly]

So.

[Hank]

So college football has their brain rot. And it's reached its peak with Joe Galloway, who says that Indiana should consider benching their quarterback, Curtis Rourke against Ohio State to avoid a repeat of what happened last year with FSU and their quarterback getting injured at the end of the season. That's. It's broken everybody's brain. And what I love about the College Football Playoff is you have. You. You expand the arguments. So there was, in theory, an argument that you could have every year about the 14 playoff, and now you've just got so many other schools making a case that they deserve to be in it, yada, yada, yada. My resume is better than this resume. But at the end of the day, you can tell those teams that are bitching if they get left out. Like, you should have won more games. Yeah, sure, you should have won more games. And that's about as simple as it gets.

[Big Cat]

And you can. And you could do it with almost like, listen, I think Tennessee is a very good team. Obviously, didn't go for them. Well for them in Georgia. Tennessee. You lost to Arkansas. Arkansas is not good. Yeah, you know, I get it. You play a tough schedule. Alabama, like, you lost to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt had a nice run there, but they're not going to finish it. Like, there's. If you have two losses and one of them isn't the best loss, like, that's why George.

[Hank]

Ole Miss has two bad, bad losses.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Well, wait, they lost a bad loss now? I mean, it was. That was a crazy game. That was a pure Saturday night in Baton Rouge game.

[Hank]

Kentucky's a bad loss.

[Big Cat]

Kentucky's a bad loss. So, yeah, it's just like you. And I get it. Indiana, the one thing I like about, like, people complain about the unbalanced schedule now, I kind of like it just because a team like Indiana can have a season like this where the schedule bounces their way and still they have to prove it. They have to prove it in Columbus on Saturday. So, wait, what were you saying about Joey Galloway? Further on that?

[Hank]

No, I was. I was done with Joey Galloway. I just think it's funny that he's reached that point where he's like, thinking through these scenarios to the point where he's got. It's that meme of the guy that's. His brain is so big that he's playing chess against his own brain. Yeah, that's what Joe. Joey Galloway is doing. I was going to talk About Georgia again, real quick. I think Georgia is the best team in the country. When it was Texas and Georgia playing each other, I said that Texas was going to win. I was wrong about that. But the more I've watched Georgia, the more I've kind of. Since there's no real dominant team in the SEC this year, I think Georgia at their best beats any team at their best. I think Georgia at their worst also beats any team at their worst. Like the floor for Georgia is higher than any other team's floor. And I think that Georgia like medium. Georgia probably beats everybody at their medium except for maybe Alabama.

[Big Cat]

I was going to say counterpoint Alabama. They literally can't beat Alabama.

[Hank]

Yeah, Alabama. That's. Well, that was a weird game because you had.

[Big Cat]

But I'm saying like you had Alabama.

[Hank]

At their best and Georgia at their worst in the first half.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Then it flip flopped at the, in the second half.

[Big Cat]

But Kirby can't beat Alabama.

[Hank]

I think the way that, that George has been playing recently, I think they are the best team in the country, but they're not, they're not a perfect team.

[Big Cat]

I think Oregon's pretty damn good too. And I think Ohio State's pretty damn good. This is why I like the 12 team playoff. I think there's a lot of good Ole Miss's. Ole Miss's defensive line can wreck anyone. Like there's, there's something for about like seven or eight teams where I'm like, yeah, if they do even, even in Miami, who I don't think is great, like their defense is great. Cam Ward can win a playoff game. You know, that's what I love about this.

[Hank]

I also have no idea how to handicap a matchup between Oregon and Georgia. No idea. That to me they might as well be playing in two different countries.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Like I don't, my brain can't comprehend what that matchup would even look like.

[Big Cat]

I know Oregon didn't look great against Wisconsin on Saturday. That was kind of like Wisconsin was throwing everything they had at them. And also Oregon, that was their eighth straight game. That was the longest streak of games without a bye week in the country. You could see that they, they were kind of running out of gas.

[Hank]

All in conference.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Think.

[Big Cat]

Right. Yeah, they were running out of gas. So like I, I wasn't shocked that they were. They played with fire there. I still think Oregon's very, very good. And they also like, they have some of their guys. I think they're running back. They have them on like load management.

[Hank]

Basically the end of that game they'll.

[Big Cat]

Stop doing that once they get to the playoffs.

[Hank]

The end of that game was insane. When Dan Lanning faked a punt. Yeah, that was. That was so stupid. I think that's probably eight games. He's. His brain is probably exhausted at this point.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Because that was some dumb shit that he tried to pull. He got away with it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yes. Troll. You had a question?

[Big Cat]

Go ahead, troll.

[Memes]

No, I won't ask it then.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no, I want it. I want. You raise your hand, come out of the. We need, like, a graphic where he. Like, he comes out from underneath.

[Memes]

What do you want me to do?

[Big Cat]

I want. This is what I want. I'm not trolling.

[Pat Beverly]

Okay.

[Hank]

I'm on it.

[Big Cat]

I want the question Troll.

[Hank]

You are dismissed. Henry Lockwood, do you have a question?

[Memes]

I will go, said Max, and come sit on the couch. I'll go sit in the booth. I will hug President Pug wants. Like, I. I don't know what I'm supposed to do sitting in this seat.

[Big Cat]

You. You're doing it. You're doing a great job.

[Memes]

But I'm not trolling.

[Big Cat]

But when you do troll, you do a great job. Like, that's what people want.

[Memes]

What did you think about Oregon flipping the jump around on Wisconsin by just going absolutely nuts?

[Big Cat]

What do you mean? The fans?

[Memes]

No, the players.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, a lot of. A lot of teams do that.

[Memes]

How.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You thought they took back jump around.

[Memes]

They kind of did.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Jump around.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I know. Max doesn't think so. Guess what? Madison, with the new teams and from the west coast, there was a lot of Oregon fans there. Madison's a great college town. Everyone puts it on their list of places they want to go see. So we have a lot of fans show up. My buddy was there. He said there was Oregon fans everywhere. Bucket list.

[Memes]

I was just curious.

[Big Cat]

Okay, that wasn't troll.

[Memes]

Never is.

[Big Cat]

How are your Washington Huskies doing?

[Memes]

Bad.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Play spoiler this week, though.

[Big Cat]

That's the other thing I want to say. Just in defense of Indiana. I know I'm defending Indiana a lot. You don't know year to year what your schedule is going to look like. Everyone who had Florida State on their schedule this year thought. I understand what you're going to say. They did cancel a game against Louisville for Western Illinois. That does hurt their case. But they had on their schedule Michigan and Washington, two teams that were in the national championship last year, two teams that their coaches left and their programs completely took a big step back. You can't really predict that part.

[Hank]

Yeah, no. I'M I'm rooting very hard for Indiana.

[Big Cat]

You were going to say the Western Illinois thing, which is fair.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I learned about that like an hour ago.

[Big Cat]

Oh no, that's. Louisville fans are all up into. Up in Indiana's face. Kurt Cignetti was not the one who canceled the game.

[Hank]

Yeah, but in Indiana's defense, like Indiana, if you look at their schedule this year compared to what Indiana has played in the past, you can't write any of these games down as easy wins for Indiana.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Like going into the season under a normal Indiana football team. This is a hard schedule for this because they, they have not been good at football and they turned it around and they are very good at football. I don't think that this is a fluke either. Yeah, they got, they got good players. They got a great coach. Just got an extension by the way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Which I mean extensions in college football, it means nothing. It really means he had a temporary raise at least for the next like month and then he's probably free to go anywhere he wants to light that contract on fire. But yeah, I mean nothing that they've done this year to me screams fluke at all. I think Signetti is. He's a real deal.

[Big Cat]

What it, what, what are you looking at a schedule next year?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, this was just what somebody else was.

[Big Cat]

Oh yeah. That's not a good non conference.

[PFT Commenter]

They're non con. They've. They've skipped non conference. They've decided to elect out of non conference games.

[Big Cat]

They do have to go to Oregon and Penn State next year. Odu.

[Hank]

Old Dominion. Yeah. Kennesaw State.

[Big Cat]

Kennesaw State won one game this year. Then they fired their coach. The turnover play their program. Yeah. Indiana State. Sycamores. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. They don't. They skipped. They skipped on conference. I wish Wisconsin wouldn't play Alabama at a home and home. That sucks. It sucks. I'd rather have that be a win. We'd be bowl eligible right now.

[Hank]

But you know what? There's really no need to schedule a tough out of conference schedule with a 12 team playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Well, you could make the case. Yes, you should. Because if Indiana had played and beaten Louisville and then they lose to Ohio State, they would still have a case to be in the. In the 12 team playoff. If they lose to Ohio State and they have no, no signature win, no big win, it's going to be harder to make that case.

[Hank]

I would like to see Indiana in it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but you see what I'm saying. I know if they beat Louisville earlier, they would have a lot better of a chance.

[Hank]

But if you schedule. If you schedule hard games for yourself out of Congress, it just makes it more likely that you're going to take away the possibility of you being in the playoff.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's loser talk.

[Hank]

It's Cowards way out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was cowards. That's cowards.

[Hank]

But guess what? The cowards way out is working right now.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, it could backfire on them.

[Hank]

If they get what I'm saying.

[Big Cat]

If they lose to Ohio State by a lot, it actually will be the wrong approach because playing and beating Louisville would have gotten them in.

[Hank]

You're banking on the opportunity to get kicked out by your one tough loss that you have and then spending the time getting mad at the committee for not putting you in, even though you only have one loss.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Hank]

Which in as a loser is a pretty satisfying way to deal with it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the Big 12. So the Big 12 could be left out. I still don't think it's going to happen. BYU lost to Kansas, which BYU has been playing with fire for a long time. Now we have Arizona State, who is a great story and has been playing great ball. Could give BYU their second loss this weekend because they have to go down to Tempe and I'm our Colorado. And Travis Hunter going to Kansas, who's playing great balls ball as well, is going to be a tough one. The Big 12 just eats itself alive. Also, shout out Kenny Dillingham, the coach at Arizona State. He is. He's the guy who you're going to try out for in the off season.

[Hank]

Yeah, I've been working out.

[Big Cat]

He's awesome. I've been working great.

[Hank]

I've been working the leg out the last couple days. Back on the peloton. I think I can get up. What if I. 40, 40 yards by my 40th birthday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I love that.

[Hank]

Is that good enough?

[Big Cat]

I love that.

[Hank]

Study law at Arizona State.

[Big Cat]

Sure.

[Hank]

They've got a good program, right?

[Big Cat]

Hot. Yeah, They've got every Pete Prisco.

[Hank]

What do you think that a law degree from Arizona State would get me? What's. What would my hourly rate be? You'd be like 100 bucks.

[Big Cat]

Good. Ambulance. I only know one person who went to Arizona State and he's got issues.

[Hank]

I feel like law degree from Arizona State. DUI specialist.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Okay. Yeah, I think that might be my goal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The Big 12 is going to be chaotic. This is what the Big 12 is built on. Parody. The Big 12 is built on the chaos. The Big 12's chaos very unlikely, but could fuck them.

[Hank]

What are the chances? And it's probably unlikely, but Oklahoma State is having just an awful season. Yes, they are shitty. Gundy's gonna stick around for forever, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

In Stillwater.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He's not going anywhere.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

No matter how shitty it gets.

[Big Cat]

I know not. Well, I mean, unless he wants to leave.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No. Jets.

[Hank]

Michael Jets.

[Big Cat]

Not a troll.

[Hank]

Oh, I mean. I mean, memes.

[Big Cat]

That was so perfect. Because eggs, like there's that fine line of him being like, you guys accuse me of being a troll that he can't help.

[Hank]

Dude, Mike Gundy in New York would be so funny.

[PFT Commenter]

Biebs also is going off on Rossini.

[Big Cat]

Back here right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Where is he? Seriously, where is she getting these sources?

[Big Cat]

Where is she getting these sources?

[PFT Commenter]

Why does that make any sense? We just beat the shit out of the Patriots before that.

[Big Cat]

Before that game.

[Hank]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna go out on a limb. I don't have any. I don't have any Racini sources on this.

[Big Cat]

You are a Racini source.

[Hank]

No, but I'm saying I've not in my sources at Racini Incorporated. But I'm going to guess with the timing of everything, maybe Joe Douglas was a source.

[Big Cat]

You think? Memes.

[Max]

It's just a little far fetched to believe because they just beat the shit out of the Patriots on prime time the week before and they lost because of a missed field goal, which would.

[Hank]

Have made it a 12 to 10. Okay.

[Big Cat]

That really was the game that ended everything.

[Max]

Everything.

[Hank]

Memes.

[Max]

Mike Gundy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No.

[Hank]

Yeah, Mike declined. Mike Gundy.

[Max]

Mike Gundy. Biff Poji. Bring him on in, dude.

[Big Cat]

He's the best.

[Hank]

He was fired at Charlotte all time football guy. He's the dude that coaches and the cutoff, like the sleeveless vest on the.

[Big Cat]

Sidelines and is like independently very wealthy.

[Hank]

Yeah, they. They brought him back to practice this week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You see that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They let.

[Hank]

Even though they fired him last week, they let him come onto the practice field and address the team.

[Big Cat]

Say goodbye. Yeah.

[Hank]

Which is. I guess it's pretty cool for Charlotte because he seems like a cool guy. Memes. Would I actually expect the jets to try to do possibly Cliff Kingsbury?

[Big Cat]

Hmm.

[Max]

I saw people say that.

[Hank]

No, it's tough bringing up scenarios to memes because he lives online. So no matter what scenario you bring up to him, he's like, yeah, I saw some tweets saying that earlier.

[Max]

I've seen most scenarios and I don't like most of them.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Max]

Mike Vrabel's the only one. I don't even. I think we would ruin Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson would come in. He would just be Adam Gates 2.0.

[PFT Commenter]

There's no chance Frebo would go into that situation.

[Max]

No, no.

[Hank]

Adam Gay.

[Max]

He would.

[Hank]

Why don't you run it back?

[Big Cat]

Stop.

[Hank]

Hyperdrive.

[Big Cat]

Hyperdrive.

[Hank]

Come on.

[Max]

I don't think there's a. A coach that wants to coach the Jets. That will be the jets who had coach next year.

[Big Cat]

Great. Say that again.

[Max]

There's not a coach out there that wants to coach the coach next year won't want to coach the Jets. It'll just be the only available job open because they want to be a head coach. They want to be the coach of the year.

[Big Cat]

So there's. So it kind of sounds like you're saying there's no one out there who wants to coach the Jets.

[Max]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

That's an easier way to say it.

[Max]

I like the way I say you.

[PFT Commenter]

Got to find like a special teams coach that nobody knows about but is like a great leader of men.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, memes again. We're in the same spot. I do not think that, like, the Bears will get the first. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[PFT Commenter]

You have a rookie quarterback.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Still has a ton of potential.

[Big Cat]

But my point is I don't. The Bears will the. The. The number one choice the Bears could make. They'll say, we're not going to interview him because he's too much of a man. The number two choice will probably say, I don't want to coach for the Bears because that's dis. Like, I'm going to go do this. We'll get the fourth or fifth. We're not a. We're not the top choice.

[Max]

Yeah, we're the top choice.

[Big Cat]

Right. We've never been the top choice team.

[PFT Commenter]

But you're definitely a more attractive choice than you.

[Big Cat]

Yes, but we're not a top choice team. That's a fact, sir.

[Hank]

College coach at the. I feel like that's where the Jets. The jets are at. Yeah, the jets are at that point. Like every franchise has been through this. You try every other way. You try to get guys that you think might be surefire hits and none of them work out. And then you say, oh, fuck it, I'll try to get a hot shot college coach and we'll just see if that works. Even though it has never worked with the exception maybe Harbaugh and. But I don't. I guess Harbaugh was like a college coach. Pete Carroll.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But he also had like a previous stint in the NFL.

[Max]

For the Jets.

[Hank]

For the Jets. Yeah, the jets tried doing with Pete Carroll. Good point. Jimmy Johnson.

[Max]

Holt.

[Big Cat]

New Holtz. Yes.

[Hank]

Great NFL career.

[Big Cat]

Yes. You guys want to hear? Finish the college football talk with one of the craziest stats I've ever seen. Sure. Not Travis Hunter, who should be the Heisman. He needs to be. We need. Car needs to be Kansas. Kansas is very good. Now.

[Hank]

That's a great, great touchdown run he.

[Big Cat]

Had, by the way. How sick. This is a really stupid thought, but how thick sick would it be if. If the commanders drafted the Kansas quarterback as the backup?

[Hank]

Yeah, no, I don't want that because I was getting.

[Big Cat]

I was Jalen Daniels, so I was.

[Hank]

Rooting for Kansas on Saturday night when I was watching the game just because they kept saying Jalen Daniels and it made me feel like half excited.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it would be cool.

[Hank]

It would be cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Here's the crazy stat. So Kentucky is playing Texas this weekend. That is the farthest west Kentucky football has ever played a football game.

[Hank]

Oh, wow. Good set.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[Memes]

It's like half the country.

[Big Cat]

Half the country. Kentucky has never played a football game west of Austin, Texas.

[Memes]

Not even a bowl game?

[Big Cat]

Nope. That's nuts.

[Memes]

Not even a bowl game.

[Big Cat]

Not even a bowl game. This is from Brian Davis.

[Hank]

What was the previous record was that.

[Big Cat]

It was Baton Rouge. They played Austin. They played in Austin like 40 years ago.

[Hank]

So they're matching their previous record.

[Big Cat]

Well, depending on where the stadium. Stadium is.

[Hank]

I think DKR has been in the same spot.

[Big Cat]

Okay, but did they add to it?

[Hank]

They did add to it.

[Big Cat]

Did they add to it west?

[Hank]

They built a highway, an overpass next to it, but I don't know if they moved it. If they did move it, I think they would have moved it a little bit north west because there's another field next to it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So it could possibly be the furthest they've ever gone.

[Big Cat]

UK's last game at Texas was 73 years ago. That's crazy. So this is the furthest. That was Bear Bryant coaching them. Bear Bryant was a Kentucky coach. 1951. That's just nuts to me. Never played a game further west than Austin, Texas.

[Hank]

Okay. Darrell K. Royal Stadium has been home to the Longhorns football team since 1924.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

So I'm thinking it has not moved.

[Big Cat]

But have they added to the stadium, which I assume they did.

[Hank]

They add to the stadium so the fans might be the furthest away from Kentucky, but I don't.

[Big Cat]

Where do they walk in as The. Has the entrance changed? Is it further west than east?

[Hank]

I think the entrance is on the south side.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

I'm not sure though. I'll get. I'll get boots on the ground to answer this and also find out if.

[Big Cat]

There'S any orientation of the field that's changed at all.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like, even if they change the layout of the field and. And like, one of the end zone goes like five feet further west, I'm looking at the furthest west they've ever played.

[Hank]

Right now I'm actually looking at the history of the renovations at DKR Stadium. They added suites. And when was the date of that game?

[Big Cat]

1951.

[Hank]

1951. Anything post 1951 here? They added lights. So that was a day game.

[Big Cat]

This is the important stuff.

[Hank]

I'm not. I think it might be because they expanded both end zones.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

So the walk in is going to be further away no matter what.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So, yeah, we might have something.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

You're watching history when you watch that game.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Last thing before we kick it to ourselves. Hank, Good job. We're going to talk about the Cavs with Pat Bev. But you broke up the Cavs.

[Memes]

Yep. Pop the champagne.

[Big Cat]

NBA Cup. They actually are very fun games. It does feel like they try harder.

[Memes]

I will say two things, because there has been also a lot of talk and reports about the NBA ratings being down and ask people, you know, asking what the cause is. I do like the NBA Cup. It makes it important. The Celtics lost a game last week to the Hawks. They never should have lost. And all of a sudden, if they had lost tonight, then they would be screwed for the NBA cup, which is crazy. But it made tonight's game that much more interesting. I do not like the court. I don't like. I don't. I think for a casual fan, it's going to take a while for them to get the NBA Cup. It just doesn't help. It's like, what is wrong with this court? Then you have to explain this whole long NBA cup thing. Not a fan of the court.

[Big Cat]

I disagree.

[Memes]

I also hate.

[Hank]

Wait, wait. Are you not a fan of the court? Are you not a fan of explaining to people the courts?

[Memes]

I just don't like personally watching them. And then it's like, why are they doing this? And they. They say it's because it's for the NBA Cup. I just don't think that's ever going to click to a casual fan. Like, ooh, new court.

[Big Cat]

I like it because it feels different.

[Hank]

I like it because it comes with some nice time lapses. Like you get to watch when you see them, you know, changing the court.

[Big Cat]

Out and the game feels different.

[Hank]

Yeah, it feels. I. It looks like you're watching it on Twitch. It looks like it's in a Twitch streamer's room.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And I just hate the Celtic City Connect jerseys this year. What are they? Their Oregon jerseys. I don't understand the, like, city Connect. We're going to connect it back to a city. The Celtics have had the same jersey and, like, scheme forever and they just made jerseys. They legitimately look like Oregon.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't love the. The crazy jerseys in the NBA is too many.

[Memes]

And the Cavs were playing on. On Sunday and they're wearing blue jerseys. Like the. We've talked about it before the show, but it's like when you turn on a game, you can't tell what the teams are unless you look at the score book. Like, that's a problem.

[Big Cat]

It was when the Heat were wearing a yellow jersey and look like the Pacers that I was like, this is too much. And it was. I think the Blazers and Nuggets were playing and the Nuggets were wearing the Blazers colors. Either way, we are doing. We're running a contest. So we release our picks. We told you last week. We release our picks on socials every single Tuesday for our NBA cup picks so far. We have the first day. So. So this isn't counting what's playing right now. I'm three and PFTs, two and one. Hanks two and one max. You're one and two. So you're at the bottom of both.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And we're recording this late right now. Some. I just got. Absolutely. And my. My pick for tonight.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So. But the NBA cup you can bet on in DraftKings and you can follow our picks. And we're running a competition, so we'll have the updated leaderboard. I think I went 2 and 1.

[Memes]

I'm gonna be 3 and 3. I went 1 and 2.

[Big Cat]

Ah.

[Hank]

I'm still waiting on the. The Spurs Thunder.

[Big Cat]

I like the NBA cup, though. It does feel different. I. There's November. NBA is tough to get into. And then you turn on the TV and it's different court. You're like, oh, okay. They're trying a little harder.

[Memes]

I want to win it. No team's ever won the NBA cup and the Finals, so.

[Big Cat]

So you'd have to win the Finals after. Are you counting it? Retro.

[Memes]

No, no, no, no. We have to win the Finals after.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Same year.

[Memes]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

Chris Paul has five assists. I need two more. It's halftime. I'm just going to count that as a win. Oh, so I'm two zero.

[Memes]

Congrats.

[Big Cat]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

One and one right now. I need AD Tonight.

[Big Cat]

You need them.

[Hank]

You need a. Wait, wait. Say that again.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I need a D. I need a. I need.

[Big Cat]

I need a.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you need AD I need AD.

[Hank]

You need a D bad.

[PFT Commenter]

I need a D bad.

[Memes]

In a big way.

[PFT Commenter]

Bad.

[Big Cat]

Bad.

[Hank]

Been craving a D. I need.

[PFT Commenter]

I need AD to be huge.

[Big Cat]

Okay, let's do hot seat, Cool Throne, and then we have Pat Bev. Okay, Hot seat, Cool Throne time. It is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. No matter what happens between your favorite rivals this week, you got a chance to win. Just go to the PMT Instagram and tell us how you prepare for a rivalry game with Coors Light. For an opportunity to win the Coors light rivalry shirt, five winners will be selected every Saturday until December 7th. So remember, when rivalries get a little overheated, choose chill and keep things cool by reaching for the mountain cold refreshment of Coors Light. Coors Light is mountain cold refreshment. Literally made a chill. Coors Light is cold lagered cold filtered cold packages is crisp and refreshing as the Rockies. Perfect for a moment to unwind. Even the biggest rivals agree. When it's time to cool things down and enjoy the game, you choose chill and then reach for a Coors like it. Coors Light delivered straight to your door. Visit coors light.com take or you can find it pretty much anywhere that sells beer. That's Coors Light.com Take Celebrate Responsibly. Coors Brewing Company, Golden, Colorado. Henry.

[Memes]

My hot seat is John Stamos.

[Big Cat]

I had that as well.

[Memes]

I'm gonna botch the pronunciation. But his friend and co star, Dave.

[Big Cat]

Cool.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You could just say uncle. Uncle Danny.

[Memes]

Dave Caillou.

[Hank]

Cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Uncle Jesse. Uncle Danny. Fun fact. Danny wasn't actually an uncle.

[Big Cat]

Or. No, Yeah, I mean, Joey.

[PFT Commenter]

Joey was.

[Memes]

Joey Samos wasn't an uncle.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Joey Jesse was an uncle.

[Hank]

Jesse was an uncle.

[Big Cat]

I said it wrong. Danny was the dad. Uncle Joey.

[Hank]

Joey was the comedian that just lived.

[Big Cat]

Cut it out.

[Hank]

Yep, he just lived in the house.

[Memes]

Very sad. But he was. He revealed that he had a cancer diagnosis. John Stamos. Then, to show support of him, did a Photoshop of him wearing a bald cap and posted that.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Memes]

And that was his way to show it.

[Big Cat]

Crazy, crazy, crazy move.

[Hank]

Wait, it was a photo. He did A photoshop of him wearing a bald cap.

[Big Cat]

He put on a bald cap, right. And then he also photoshopped it to.

[Hank]

Make him look even extra bald, extra bald, more bald.

[Big Cat]

I think he. I think he photoshopped where the lines on the bald cap are.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Sounds like face tuned. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Insane move.

[Hank]

May. Maybe his heart was in the right place.

[Big Cat]

I don't think so.

[Hank]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Couldn't. Couldn't cut his hair off. Well, I'll say this, friend.

[Hank]

I'll say this. There's one very lucky woman that's made the right decision not having to hang around that guy Stamos anymore. That would be Rebecca Romaine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Talk about an upgrade. Moving on to joc.

[Big Cat]

I had it as my cool throne for jock cool throwing. Joc. J oc is a stand up guy.

[Hank]

Joc would never do that.

[Big Cat]

Joc is the.

[Memes]

Jesse would just shave his head.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. 100%.

[Memes]

Or just make a joke about how he's not going to shave his head.

[Big Cat]

Right. And make it very funny. And he would probably. His laugh like JOC making you laugh would cure cancer.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like that's how funny he is.

[Hank]

Bing bong, Jesse.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he would look it like bing bong. Cancer. You're out.

[Hank]

Bing bong. This is Rebecca.

[Big Cat]

You know, Rebecca, this was, this was crazy though. Like the fact that he did this. I guess the only little small part is that he admitted to it. Like, it would have been worse if he had just pretended that he shaved his head. But still an insane, insane move. You. I mean, just an. How big of a narcissist do you have to be?

[Memes]

Extremely. That's. That's really what it is. It's like how it is the. How do I make this about me?

[Big Cat]

Right? Don't even. Just don't even.

[Memes]

Or just shave your head or just.

[Big Cat]

Don'T shave your head and. Which you didn't do. And just don't wear a bald cap and be like, I'm here visiting my friend. I hope he gets better shaved. Crazy.

[Hank]

Also, some guys cost.

[Memes]

His culture is not your cost.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Hank]

Yeah. Some guys look better with a shaved head. Hank.

[Memes]

Thank you.

[Hank]

One of them, he looks like a. Just an evil. Like an alien billionaire.

[Big Cat]

He's a penis head. What a dick.

[Memes]

JLC made me chuckle pretty hard Monday night. He just tweeted like, need 44 from mixing tonight.

[Big Cat]

He almost got it.

[Memes]

Yeah, but that's just like a. That's a very like fantasy Monday night. Like, oh, yeah, just let me. I got one guy left left. Just need a 44 yeah. And we're. We win this week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He. We're gonna have JOC on, I think, next week for an update on the fantasy.

[Hank]

I miss joc.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're gonna have them because I.

[Memes]

Know people been asking, my cool throne is Paul Skeens.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was. He stole my.

[Memes]

Was he in the hot seat, though?

[Big Cat]

He was on the cool throne.

[Memes]

See? Two cool tones.

[Big Cat]

I had two cool thrones. I thought I was gonna be okay, and I'm. Turns out I'm not.

[Hank]

So Paul Skeen's great speech last night.

[Big Cat]

Can we play it? He was.

[Memes]

Yeah. I don't want to. Is it gonna take too long?

[Big Cat]

It probably will. Max is really bad at this.

[Memes]

Notice the speech goes on for a while.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I thought you meant Max pulling it up.

[Hank]

No, it's. I don't know if we have memory on the. On the SD card, but, yeah, really hard fell.

[Big Cat]

We don't have sound again. Wait. Hit the sound thing.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There you go. Producer. Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

I was waiting for a good time for you to start playing it, Guy.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Guy. Guy. Yeah.

[Hank]

Come on, Guy.

[Big Cat]

From all of us. What does this honor mean to you right now?

[Hank]

This is cool.

[Big Cat]

That's it.

[Hank]

He crushed it so good.

[Big Cat]

This is cool.

[Hank]

You know what? That was cool.

[Big Cat]

It was cool. And what more do you need to say?

[Hank]

Yeah. We don't need victory speeches where guys get up there and they misuse the word humble a million times. Like every single award show. It's literally them sucking your dick and God's dick and giving you an award for being great and being better than everybody else. And then you get behind the microphone, you're like, yeah. Now that you guys have all told me how great I am, the first word that comes to mind is humble.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. The meme of Paul Skeens winning the rookie of the year and Paul Skeen sitting in a fire truck. He was so much happier to be in a fire truck. But that's. That's what fire trucks do to people. Yeah, fire trucks are fucking cool.

[Memes]

So did you hit Scubal? Is that now at this when the awards, they.

[Big Cat]

They draw the whole thing out. So tonight, if you're listening this tonight, Tarek Scuba will win the Al Cy Young.

[Memes]

What is it, like the twelve days of Christmas?

[Big Cat]

It's crazy.

[Memes]

Awards.

[Big Cat]

I've been waiting for this forever. Shout out the awl. I got to track him down. Who handed me a envelope on when we were in Detroit for the draft, and I opened the. He handed to me, walked away, opened it and said, take Terik Scubal plus 400 to win the Cy Young. Great.

[Hank]

Why doesn't Major League Baseball do this like in the middle of the playoffs?

[Big Cat]

I know.

[Hank]

Or before the playoffs start.

[Big Cat]

Or just do like I.

[Memes]

Or do it all in one night.

[Hank]

There was like Major League Baseball in California.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It's the same thing that they have going on. They're like counting all the baseball writers signatures and matching them up to make sure the mail in pallets are legit.

[Big Cat]

There was a. I want to say there was some type of event going on in Vegas with all the baseball players. Why didn't they just do all the announcements then? It makes no sense. It makes no sense. So yeah, shout out that awl. I gotta find it. I gotta find the original tweet. Just been sitting there for six months. But he nailed it. Imagine if he doesn't win.

[Hank]

I mean, you've jinxed this as much as any.

[Big Cat]

I mean he was, he was minus 2000 the last time you could bet on it.

[Hank]

He has to win.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that would be insane. If he didn't win it. I would be like voter fraud.

[Hank]

This is unjinkable.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What are. I mean, you're Gucci. Oh, shut up. I hate, I hate that you just did that. Yeah. His Last odds were -5802. Is that right?

[Hank]

Is that possible? Would they take bets on that?

[Big Cat]

I mean, if he loses, there's someone in MLB's out to get me.

[Hank]

You know what, I might, I might fucking load up and see if I can just make some quick money on minus 5,000 now. Yeah, let's go. Let's see. We're giving that out. I'm giving that out as an official pick. An official pick. How much money can I deposit into the responsibly.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think it's actually.

[Big Cat]

I don't think it's up anymore.

[Hank]

Yeah, I'm just going to see. Hey, can you try to pull those odds up?

[Memes]

Yes.

[Pat Beverly]

Not up.

[Hank]

Okay. But let the record show, I would have endorsed that pick.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

My hot seat is the Utah Hockey Club.

[Big Cat]

You pieces of shit.

[Hank]

You don't even have a name. What kind of professional sports organization goes entire season just naming themselves after the sport? Alexander Vechkin was taken out by a dirty knee to knee hit last night.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Hank]

After scoring two goals, getting within 27 goals of tying Wayne Gretzky's all time record. Excuse me, 26 of tying the record. 27 of passing the all time goals record. And he was on the best streak of his life. The way that OV started the season out, 39 years old, top goal scorer in the NHL. The Caps are on fire right now, and OV is just insane.

[Big Cat]

And how many. So is he hurt?

[Hank]

Yeah, they said week to week, lower leg injury. I looked at every single online Twitter doctor out there, and they came to the conclusion probably a torn MCL or a sprained mcl, which is the same thing, depending on what grade the sprain is. So he's week to week now, which probably means he'll be out for, I don't know, three weeks. But Ovi's different.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Russian machine never break. That was his famous quote when they asked him how he's. How he's been able to stay healthy throughout his career. So I'm just going to hope and pray that whatever Putin's got left in the vault, he can send over. Just inject it directly into Ovi's knee.

[Big Cat]

The. That's the worst, too, because you can never figure out what a hockey injury is.

[Hank]

No, there's just no.

[Big Cat]

They will give no details, nothing. You can't even see, like, when. When a guy gets hit, he's got so many pads on that you can't. You know, where we zoom in on, like, a football player or basketball player. Like, oh, that's exactly what it was. You just have no idea. Yeah.

[Hank]

And then I was watching right afterwards, he goes back on the ice to try to skate on it, see if he can do it tough and your hockey tough. And it looks like he's skating around, but in reality he's just, like, barely touching one leg down. And I'm like, oh, he can skate. No, you forget that they're wearing ice skates and so they can just glide on the other leg. So, yeah, it's not good. Bad for hockey, I would say.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'd agree.

[Hank]

I had. I had done the math on this last night when he was on his tear and on this pace, you know when he would have broken Wayne Gretzky's record? When it would have been at Edmonton. Felt like that was set up and.

[Big Cat]

He was going to break it in.

[Memes]

Talking about this, like, two goals a game pace that he's been.

[Hank]

No, no, I took my own.

[Big Cat]

I did my own, Hank.

[Hank]

Yeah, well, no, but, like, I did my own pace.

[Big Cat]

I saw. I saw.

[Memes]

Yeah, I saw your tweet and I was like that. That.

[Big Cat]

Did you start at Edmonton and work your way back? I.

[Hank]

No, I did. I did that my second time to see if I could, like, increase the pace or decrease the pace.

[Memes]

It was like, will my break the record? This year. That'd be crazy. And pft was like, January 21st.

[Hank]

My. My pace. My pace that I had him on, had him scoring. I think it was like 0.75 goals per game.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Which is taken. It's not as good of a pace as he's been on. So at that pace, he would have broken it at Edmonton. Right now, I don't know if he's going to break it this season, which it stinks. To maybe have to wait another year for this. And people forget ov. Ov lost two. A full year to the first rock lockout. And then I think he lost like 50 games to the second lockout. Plus, Covid lost games to that, too. So he's actually. He is on pace right now to break Gretzky's record in fewer games than Gretzky played in, which is kind of crazy.

[Big Cat]

But that is crazy.

[Hank]

Ovi's been so much fun to watch his entire. His entire career. He was like the one bright light that D.C. sports had for a very long time. So I've been counting down to this for, like, the last seven years once it was theoretically possible. So it stinks that those bastards in Utah sent a hit out Gretzky. Gretzky's got shooters. I would be surprised if Gretzky told biz, like, hey, can you get on the horn with some of the guys that are up in Utah? I know you're not. You know a lot of them from your time in Arizona.

[Big Cat]

Could you have.

[Hank]

I blame biz. This is on fairs.

[Big Cat]

That's fair.

[Hank]

Dirty guy. Mother. Hot seat is Netflix. Because they're under a lot of pressure right now from the NFL.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

To make sure that they don't up the Christmas Day stream like they did the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight.

[Big Cat]

Antonio Brown could save their ass.

[Hank]

How?

[Big Cat]

He livestreamed from his phone the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight, and he had 7 million people watching.

[Hank]

It's pretty good.

[Big Cat]

He's taking a little pressure off him.

[Hank]

It's pretty. So he was live streaming from his Netflix, I think.

[Big Cat]

No. I think he was in the arena. He was doing the video board.

[Hank]

I love that.

[Big Cat]

Seven million people were watching.

[Hank]

I love that. Did Antonio Brown have something to do with the. The roof panels falling off?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Hank]

Wouldn't surprise me.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Yeah. So Netflix is in trouble because Christmas Day with the Beyonce concert at halftime, probably going to have more viewers, I think.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Jake Paul, it's going to be close because that fight did numbers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be close. I don't know. 60 was it. 60 million was the total that we're watching. So it might not be. Average NFL game is what, 20 million?

[Hank]

I feel like this fight was like 34, 36 million.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Hank]

I don't know what the more than.

[Big Cat]

That I think it was.

[Memes]

I saw six.

[Big Cat]

I saw 60 as well. Either way, they just got to figure it out.

[Memes]

Numbers up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they absolutely can.

[Hank]

And I guess that would be cool. Throwing NBA for Christmas Day. Oh, you might be getting Mike getting more ratings.

[Big Cat]

No, they got cocked. No, people would rather watch the. The wheel spin.

[Hank]

The wheel spinning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah. The.

[Memes]

I mean, how are you gonna compete with Beyonce? Although the. Oh, no, that's. Thanks.

[Big Cat]

No, it's Steelers, Chiefs.

[Memes]

The Thanksgiving game sucks.

[Big Cat]

Whoa. Suck one of them. Suck.

[Hank]

Which one?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the Packers. Dolphins.

[PFT Commenter]

Packers. Dolphins.

[Hank]

Pretty good, I guess.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But yeah, the other ones suck.

[Hank]

Hypothetically.

[PFT Commenter]

Bears, Lions.

[Big Cat]

Sucks.

[Hank]

Hypothetically. If. If the stream was not working on Netflix on Christmas day, let's say 12:00 Central Time. That's when you're supposed to start. We tune in, we start to watch. It doesn't work for anybody. Does the NFL just delay the game until it can get broadcast, or do they play it?

[Memes]

No, because in those. No, but in those situations, the tech guys are like, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All business. Pete is sitting there being like, it's fine. I don't see any issues. Yeah. People are saying that it's fine.

[Hank]

I can get on my phone right here in the stadium.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Like, seriously, that would be an interesting problem for the NFL to have. I think that they would delay the game. I think they would delay it as long as it took to get it broadcast. Right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Because you can't. You can't play a football game and not have it be on tv.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

Question.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Why can't they just, like, get the pro. The Amazon guys and just be like, hey, help us. Yeah, just do. Do the. We'll pay you.

[Big Cat]

Bezos saying, like that peacock or.

[Hank]

Why would Bezos help Netflix?

[Big Cat]

Bezos ain't like, damn, you just.

[PFT Commenter]

It's the product. They're all different productions.

[Big Cat]

That's true. Just get a bigger router.

[PFT Commenter]

Why now?

[Memes]

Because Bezos wanted this game. Like, it's like they competed. Netflix won the rights to Christmas. Hey, we've got these rights, but now actually, we need your help.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

They're gonna be like, sure.

[Hank]

There'd be a. Suck my dick.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like there's got to be like, a different production Team that can put this.

[Big Cat]

I serve.

[Hank]

I don't know that it's the production team. I think it's the servers infrastructure.

[Big Cat]

They need a bigger router.

[Memes]

Yeah, right.

[Big Cat]

Need a bigger router. Yeah.

[Hank]

No, I think Amazon would be like.

[Memes]

No, Abs.

[Hank]

Like you for even asking us that question.

[Big Cat]

Amazon has all the servers.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think Pete could do it?

[Big Cat]

No, absolutely not.

[Memes]

If you had the servers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I guess if he had the servers.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like Pete could do it.

[Big Cat]

No, no, it's just.

[Memes]

It's servers.

[Big Cat]

It's servers.

[PFT Commenter]

Pete, I want you to know that I think that you could do it.

[Big Cat]

I think with no issues.

[PFT Commenter]

No issues. Also, can we plug and chain some. Some computers?

[Hank]

He could definitely do it.

[Big Cat]

Everyone tweet. Everyone tweet. All business Pete. When you're listening this and say Pug and Shane need.

[PFT Commenter]

They don't have the desktop. Yelling at me to get the desktop and.

[Memes]

No, I know.

[Big Cat]

And Pete also, I think Pete has some free month trials for Netflix. So if anyone wants it for the game, tweet them and ask for a code.

[Hank]

Yeah. Netflix codes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I like how Hank said that Netflix bought the rights to Christmas.

[Big Cat]

They did.

[Hank]

Christmas is owned by Netflix.

[PFT Commenter]

Yet the handles at All Business Pete.

[Big Cat]

All at All Business Pete. Tweet him.

[Hank]

Do you think? I mean, the craziest part about what Netflix did to Christmas in the NBA is that they put it on their own app where you can't even flip back and forth to the NBA games.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It takes you 30 seconds when the people.

[Big Cat]

Multiple TVs get. Get a nice win. Yep. Get a nice win. Okay. Your cool throne.

[Hank]

My cool Throne is the U.S. men's National Team and their new coach Pochettino because he beat Jamaica 4 to 2. And some tournament that I always forget the name of involving the words Nations League, CONCACAF Champions Tournament. So they won 4 to 2 with Burhalter in the stands. They made Berhalter go out and watch the game. Cocked him. He sat in a little cuck chair in the corner and watched Pepe and Pulich dominate. Just crush.

[Big Cat]

Jamaica is not to get political, but the Trump celebration is pretty fun. How the guy everyone's doing it is Pulisic getting under fire. He did it.

[Hank]

I don't think he's getting. I don't know if he's getting under fire. I've seen more people saying like, what will. It's going to be fun to watch libs freak out about.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I feel like it's just a fun celebration.

[Hank]

I think it's just a fun dance to do. Yeah, you just do this golf swing. Anyone can do it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah. So they won 42 against Jamaica, which leads us to a fun fact that now the U.S. men's National Team and in fact, Greg Burhalter himself, who was fired in July of this year, he's got more wins in AT&T Stadium this year than Mike McCarthy, Dallas Cowboys did.

[Pat Beverly]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

Wait, who. Who does?

[Hank]

Greg Burhalter, the Fire coach, has more.

[Big Cat]

But that wasn't the game, obviously, last night, because they were playing football.

[Hank]

They were playing football last night.

[Big Cat]

So he had already had that.

[Hank]

He already has those wins, even though he got fired in July.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[Hank]

Mike McCarthy will be fired. Doesn't have as many wins even though he plays many more games.

[Big Cat]

That is a fun fact.

[Hank]

I thought that was a fun fact.

[Big Cat]

Very fun fact. All right, my hot seat is. Well, we're going to talk about it with Pat Bev, but I feel like we kind of glossed over it. This Tyrese Maxey Joel Embiid thing is.

[Memes]

Feels for real. What happened.

[Big Cat]

So Tyrese Maxey called out Joel Embiid in a meeting and said that he's late and disrespectful to everyone. I didn't realize that. This is just like a well known fact that he's always done this. There was a book written what in 2015 where everyone was like, joan, Beat is just a terror to work with. Feels like. Feels like things are bad right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Maxine and Beat are friends. They challenge each other often.

[Hank]

What does that mean?

[PFT Commenter]

Apparently this is a problem because a constructive meeting.

[Hank]

What does that mean? That they challenge each other.

[Memes]

What about the 2017 comments?

[Big Cat]

How many times did you practice this speech in the mirror before you sat down?

[PFT Commenter]

Zero times.

[Big Cat]

That's a. That's zero times. Fake. Maxi and Beat, her friends, they challenge each other. You had that ready to go?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I mean, that's just.

[Memes]

That's just a fact about the allegations from the past.

[Big Cat]

What were the allegations from the past, Hank?

[Memes]

That he showed up late and that he was a terror to the whole staff.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

It was basically 2017 or whatever that.

[Memes]

Whatever that book.

[Big Cat]

The book gives up. Whatever the book.

[Hank]

I think that was maybe his rookie year. Yeah, it was when Brown was a coach and he was mad because all of his assistants came up to him and they're like, hey, we have to have an intervention with you. Because Joel is such a huge. To everyone that we needed to escalate this to the head coach.

[Big Cat]

What's it.

[PFT Commenter]

What's the date? We're worried about something.

[Memes]

Ten years ago, nearly every member of the Sixer staff basketball was awaiting him. Why are we here? Brown asked. He knew the meeting was about Embiid, but didn't understand. One of the assistant coaches stood up and said, coach, we're here because there's a problem with Joel. He's disrespected just about everyone in this room and has become a major distraction.

[PFT Commenter]

You want to say something about when you were 18? Franny lied in.

[Memes]

No, I'm just saying like, oh, if it was still a problem ten years later, then yeah, it's probably like a bad sign.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

If Hank was still on, that's not a problem.

[PFT Commenter]

Like him showing up late isn't. That's different.

[Hank]

You think that's not a problem?

[PFT Commenter]

No, that.

[Big Cat]

What about the people said it wasn't a problem, but what about the people saying that this is maybe the first time Embiid's ever been challenged? Challenged.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not. They it said in the thing that and Maxi and Embiid go back and forth at each other because there's a mutual respect and friendship.

[Big Cat]

Sounds like there's not a lot of respect for Embiid.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what, you guys, this is where the national podcast thing turns disgusting.

[Hank]

All right, all right, fine. All right, new segment alert.

[Big Cat]

Hank Dodg turns disgusting.

[Hank]

Okay, new segment, regional podcast.

[Memes]

Philly.

[Hank]

All right, Philly.

[Big Cat]

Hey, hey. Welcome back to Locked on Sixers.

[Memes]

Listen, yeah, we've won two games. We're about to be losing the Wizards in the standings. But like, Joel's done so much for our cities, you know. No, we got to give him some respect.

[Hank]

I think it's disgusting with some of the reporters in the locker room we're trying to do to divide us.

[Big Cat]

I.

[Hank]

We need to be unified and we're a great team. I don't think that we change anything. We don't change anything except maybe we keep the fucking reporters out of the locker.

[Big Cat]

Well, respectfully, Anthony and Gino, I disagree. Joan beads a bum. He's a bum. He doesn't respect the hard working people of Philadelphia. I get up. I get up at every every morning, 5:00. Think about the construction workers and the trash workers and Joel be can't be there at 10am I don't shoot around the problems.

[Hank]

The problems with Joel started to get much more clear when Nick Sirianni walked through this door and he took his paws and put them all over a city and it all up.

[Memes]

You can't win a second round matchup, but he can give Us an mvp, so, you know, you got to think about what he's given to us.

[Big Cat]

No, that's loser talk, Anthony. All right. How'd we do?

[PFT Commenter]

Great. Really good.

[Hank]

I fucking love the fluffy Eagles.

[Big Cat]

It feels like a problem. 2 and 11 in, and this feels like a problem.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's November 19th.

[Hank]

Okay, so here's Max. Here's where I. Here's where I think the real problem is. I'm sure that conversations like this happen a lot in NBA locker rooms, and we never hear about them. I'm sure they're commonplace.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, I agree with.

[Hank]

But the fact that it got out, that tells me that there's something there.

[Big Cat]

Tells me that people are sick of his shit. Because usually he wouldn't get out. If Joe Embiid is maybe not been the best teammate, shows up late, whatever the story is, but if he's playing well and the team's doing well, that stuff never gets out. He's playing poorly. The team's playing poorly. Now the cracks start happening.

[Memes]

He's not playing.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a mole. There's a mole in the organization, which, you know, we got to sniff out because that should never have gotten out. That's. That's correct. But what if this is the turning point of the whole season and then we start of the championship dvd back to this moment.

[Hank]

This is a strange turning point.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Or Tank Cooper flag.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[Hank]

You're all right with both of those. You don't get to say that. You don't get to say that because when I said that I. I want Cooper flag, and I'm projecting Cooper flag. You said we are out. You said the Sixers.

[Big Cat]

That's true. I'm still in.

[Hank]

Big cats in Big cat could get him.

[Memes]

I'm out.

[Big Cat]

You.

[Memes]

You said yourself I was out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but I know now I'm back in.

[Hank]

No, you can't do that.

[PFT Commenter]

You're back in.

[Memes]

That's illegal.

[Big Cat]

That's illegal.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't realize I did that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I'm a man of my word. Thank you.

[Big Cat]

Thank you, Hank. Man of honor.

[Hank]

What's crazy is that you're tied with the Wizards right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, it doesn't. It all. Doesn't matter.

[Big Cat]

What point will it matter?

[PFT Commenter]

Christmas.

[Big Cat]

So how many wins you have to have by Christmas?

[PFT Commenter]

How many times have we said on this show that.

[Big Cat]

I understand, but I want to hold you to this.

[PFT Commenter]

So this wasn't the Sixers. No one would care.

[Big Cat]

Okay, Agreed.

[PFT Commenter]

We would not be talking about.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

If it was a Celtics. No. If it was A Celtics. We would absolutely correct it. So why.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's it.

[Hank]

But, Max, that's because you have these players, like, the narrative that's been around them.

[PFT Commenter]

The Bucks fucking suck. We don't talk about that at all.

[Hank]

I have.

[Memes]

I've brought it up multiple times.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, what are we gonna say? The. There's a mole in the bowls of the wizard. Like, we suck.

[Hank]

Nobody would care about that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right, so you have 13 games. Christmas is your 13th game. How many wins do you have to. Have to be like, this is a problem.

[PFT Commenter]

There's 13 games until Christmas.

[Big Cat]

I think you got to get to 10 wins.

[PFT Commenter]

I know 10. 10 sounds way. Like, way too many. Let me see the schedule.

[Big Cat]

So you got to go 10 wins, and you got to do. So you got to go 8 and 5. That's not that hard. 8 and 5 is not that hard.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I can find you some. Or Orlando twice without Paolo.

[Hank]

There you go.

[Big Cat]

Chicago. Charlotte twice. Detroit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there's a 8. Yes. 10 wins. 10 wins.

[Hank]

Wins.

[PFT Commenter]

Got 10 wins by Christmas.

[Big Cat]

Let's go 10 wins by Christmas.

[PFT Commenter]

We're not allowed to talk about this until Christmas.

[Big Cat]

All right, but you have to get to 10 wins.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Hank]

What if Yabu's the. The mole?

[Big Cat]

That. This never happened with people, Paul.

[Hank]

All right, so, Max, there's been a new wrinkle.

[Big Cat]

A wrinkle?

[Hank]

Reveal to the 76ers. Drama to the saga.

[Big Cat]

I want a saga. What's the saga?

[Hank]

We're doing this later on at night, 9:37. Somebody thinks that they found a leak of who reported this or of who gave the scoop away. Okay, this is from Raptor Moment.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, Max, Max, I feel like memes right now.

[Hank]

Let me finish. All right. This from Raptor Moments.

[Big Cat]

This is a stretch.

[PFT Commenter]

Raptor Moment.

[Hank]

Yeah, Raptor Moments on Moments.

[PFT Commenter]

Is this source?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Well, here, just hear me out here. Okay?

[Big Cat]

Wait, that's. This is. What's the name of the Twitter.

[Hank]

This is a Raptor Moment.

[PFT Commenter]

This is a burner.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What?

[Hank]

Huh?

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Okay, well, just. Just wait.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'll hear it.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I'll hear the wrinkle.

[Hank]

All right, so the quote from the article was, tyrese loves the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room. A person involved in the meeting told espn, if you go back to the Raptors over the last couple years, Nick Nurse is very fond of using the phrase elephant in the room, and he's done it at least three times.

[Big Cat]

A common phrase.

[Hank]

A common phrase.

[PFT Commenter]

This is. This is an insane addition.

[Memes]

This is like Tatum Stealing people's quotes. And the quotes are. This is gonna be like.

[PFT Commenter]

What's his name for saying elephant in the room?

[Hank]

Yeah, an elephant in the room.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, everyone says an elephant in the room.

[Big Cat]

What's this?

[PFT Commenter]

That's like, every report ever.

[Hank]

Raptor Moments, I Believe Raptor Moments 2005.

[Big Cat]

Wait, Raptor Moments isn't actually reporting anything. They're literally just being like, look, this phrase was used in. This phrase was used.

[Hank]

Yeah. Raptor moments is connecting the dots.

[Big Cat]

Right. But he's not. He. You can't believe Raptor Moments because Raptor Moments doesn't have any actual knowledge of this.

[Hank]

No. No actual knowledge whatsoever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's just saying, oh, Nick nurses said elephant in the room, and this person did.

[PFT Commenter]

So Nick Nurse is the.

[Memes]

I liked. I like the thought. I do like to believe that Nick coach is snitching on his players only meeting. That is a funny thought. Yeah, so I'm gonna believe it.

[PFT Commenter]

It also wasn't a players only meeting.

[Hank]

Another fan pointed out that in a past NBC Sports Philadelphia Story, it's explained that Nick Nurse said on Danny Green's podcast in 2018 that he had a mini elephant on his desk in Toronto, which metaphorically helped him prevent obvious concerns with the team from growing before being addressed. Nick Nurse loves the phrase elephant in the room.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone uses.

[Hank]

He had a elephant.

[PFT Commenter]

There was an elephant in the room. You use the phrase elephant in the room.

[Big Cat]

He's right about that.

[Memes]

Yeah, but if you walk into Nick Nurse's office, there's always an elephant.

[Hank]

He has an elephant on his desk to remind himself of elephants in room.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you ever used the phrase elephant in the room?

[Hank]

Not into reporter.

[Big Cat]

Wait, what was the original quote?

[PFT Commenter]

The original quote was the most standard quote of all time.

[Big Cat]

I'll read.

[Hank]

I'll read the quote. Tyrese loves the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room. He was talking about how Tyrese loves Joel.

[Big Cat]

Wait, but who wrote that?

[Hank]

That was in the ESPN report.

[PFT Commenter]

So that wasn't even a quote.

[Big Cat]

What? What?

[Hank]

No, that is a quote. The direct quote is from Tyrese loves.

[PFT Commenter]

The big fella, but this is the.

[Memes]

Elephant in the room.

[Hank]

No, Max, you don't know how to read quotation marks. Tyrese is the big fella, but this is the elephant in the room. Is the quote from an anonymous source. Anonymous source with the Sixers? Max, you're looking at an apostrophe. That's just the one mark. The quotation mark is 2. Who gives a fuck?

[PFT Commenter]

Everybody says elephant in the room when there's an elephant in the room.

[Hank]

I mean, it seems like Nick Nurse is obsessed with elephants.

[Memes]

Who else would the source be than Max? Because it seems like we got one good lead and nothing else.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's a great lead.

[Big Cat]

Hey, okay, here's the only, only pushback I'd have is wasn't part of the report that the Sixers players were like, hey, Nick Nurse, you need to coach us harder. Why would Nick Nurse leak that his players are mad at him?

[Memes]

Because he also in that report, they said that in turn the players have to pay more attention to detail.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so maybe it is Nick Nurse.

[Hank]

So maybe Nick Nurse and the meeting was like, that's fair criticism. I'm going to hear you. But can I ask you to also you buy in as well and we'll meet in the middle. Good coaching.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I'm. I'm on team. Yeah, it was Nick.

[Hank]

This is stupid.

[PFT Commenter]

This is stupid.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

No, I mean, Max, I think everybody agrees.

[PFT Commenter]

Could you imagine if memes got this, got this news.

[Max]

We should stop listening to reports.

[PFT Commenter]

We just went from the athletic to Raptors moment.

[Hank]

Raptors moments with an S. We should.

[Big Cat]

Stop listening to reports. It's fucking us up. Okay, back to whatever we were talking about. Okay. My cool throne is Kentucky basketball. Because I don't know if you guys saw, but John Calpa Perry is now begging fans to show up to basketball games in Arkansas. And he was like, if you don't want to come to the game, give us the tickets back. We'll find someone who can come to the game. And they have also not looked great in the start of their season. And then on the other side, Kentucky, there's a clip going around that's awesome. It's Mark Poe coaching in the huddle, essentially telling his players exactly what Cooper flag is going to do on that last possession against Duke and being like, this is how we're going to defend it. He's going to spin. You're going to. We're going to send the extra man two hands, take the ball away and then it's like a cut up where he's saying it and it happens exactly like that. Something that Kentucky basketball is missing that in game coaching. So Kentucky basketball. Good for you guys.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's an awesome clip. It makes you think that Mark Pope is going to be a great coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But we are very easily sold on clips like that.

[Big Cat]

But I also saw like Cal in the red looks weird and then him being like, please come to the games.

[Hank]

Yeah, not. Not a great look. They are three and one they lost to Baylor, who's a pretty good team.

[Big Cat]

But they also have kind of like, they had a couple games where they were struggling a little bit with lesser competition.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's not, I would say, so far Kentucky won this trade.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

For sure. And also Kentucky. This also is probably because they were playing against Duke, but Kentucky seemed like a fun team.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Like an easy, fun team to root for. I'm sure that once they start becoming more Kentucky, then they will be easier to hate. But going up against Duke and beating Duke in that way, it made me feel things for the University of Kentucky.

[Big Cat]

I got a little soft spot for Kentucky. I got no problem with Kentucky. And that's probably because of 2015. What? I guess.

[Memes]

Yeah. You beat them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right. Like, it's just.

[Memes]

They beat you.

[Big Cat]

I know, but it's also like that was. I mean, they were undefeated that season, so. And I love Matt Jones and those guys. So. Yeah, I want Kentucky basketball to be good. I might be an honorary member of Big Blue Nation. I don't know. Mark Pope, I mean, very loosely, honorary meaning, like, I'd put a future on him and be like, go, Kentucky. And then they lost and be like, oh, well, I lose it anyway.

[Hank]

I like Kentucky. You're right. The sport is better. When Kentucky basketball is good. I just, I will say and repeat whatever propaganda Kentucky fans want me to do if it means that I get one step closer to at one point becoming a colonel. Being a Kentucky colonel.

[Big Cat]

That'd be sick.

[Hank]

Would be sick.

[Big Cat]

That would be sick. Okay, we have more basketball talk with our guy, Pat Bev. It is brought to you by our friends at Chevy. There's a reason we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks. And that's because for part of my take, there's only one pickup truck, the Chevy Silverado. Why is that? Silverado is a partner. A partner you can depend on. We've all spent time driving and using the Silverado for all kinds of, pardon my, take, jobs, adventures and other shenanigans. Silverado has been our ride for a cross country trip to the Super Bowl. Silverado helped us dig the biggest hole in the state of Ohio last year at Grit Week. Silverado helped us give fullbacks the recognition they deserve with the Low man award. And this year, Silverado was out west with our latest Grit Week. Silverado brings a grit. Legendary grit paired with modern truck tech inside and out. Massive screens, up to eight cameras with 14 different views to help make driving, towing and parking all easier. We love the bold, blacked out look of the new Silverado HD trail boss. So head on over to Chevy.com build your own Silverado or Silverado HD and check out all the current offers on Silverado. Discover a world of strength and capability, all behind the wheel of our favorite truck, the Chevy Silverado. We're also brought to you by our friends at Kraken. Today's show is brought to you by our friends at Kraken. You know, I see a lot of similarities between sports and crypto. You have passionate supporters that believe in their favorite crypto assets like their sports teams, Team Bitcoin, Team Ethereum, maybe even team whatever Dog coin is going 10x next week, who knows. But underneath it all, a shared belief that crypto is one of the best opportunities to achieve financial autonomy and financial freedom. And that's what Kraken is all about. Secure and simple access to over 200 cryptocurrencies. Kraken also gets flawless track records in protecting assets with some of the strongest crypto security features around. And not only is Kraken a leader in security, they cater to all experience levels of traders. As well as a Kraken app, you've got Kraken Pro, a full suite of powerful tools built for the most seasoned traders out there. Whatever kind of trading strategy you use, Kraken Pro handles it with ease. Don't just listen to us. Join the platform trusted by over 13 million individuals, traders and institutions globally that are already on Kraken. I'm a guy who's very financially illiterate. I don't really understand cryptocurrencies. Kraken makes it easy for you. So go to kraken.com barstool not investment advice. Crypto trading involved risk of loss and is offered to US customers excluding Washington, New York and Maine through Payword Interactive Inc. Go to kraken.com right now,/barstool kraken.com Barstool that's K R A K E N.com Barstool okay, here he is. Papeth. Okay. We now welcome on our co worker, very special guest. Recurring guest. It is Pat Bev, Pat Beverly back from Israel for a short stint. I thought World War 3 had broken out when you walked into the gambling cave on Sunday unannounced.

[Pat Beverly]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I was like, why is Pat here? Why is he like. I thought he was in the middle of the season. So you have a break.

[Pat Beverly]

You have a break and you are.

[Big Cat]

How far into the season in Israel?

[Pat Beverly]

About two, about two and a half months in. And how's the team playing phenomenal Number one team in Israel right now.

[Big Cat]

Number one team.

[Pat Beverly]

Number one team. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How are you playing?

[Pat Beverly]

Phenomenal. Yeah, I've been. Been fucking hooping. Yeah. Yeah, fine.

[Big Cat]

How is the game different over, like, is it when you go over there? Because you played obviously in different leagues around the world before, but you go over there, Is it. Is it. I don't want to say easier, but is it like.

[Pat Beverly]

It's easier, but, like, I get everyone's best shot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know, because they're like, this is the NBA player.

[Pat Beverly]

Right, Right. Every American, every coach, every import, every import from another country. Everywhere I go, it's, you know, they beat us, you know, oh, we beat NBA. NBA team or NBA player. So I'm getting everyone's best shot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

You know, but, you know, that's what I asked for, so it's perfect.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

How are the fans over there?

[Pat Beverly]

Phenomenal. I mean, like, you gotta think. I'm thinking like 8 to 9,000 a game. It's a lot of smoke with Israel and other countries. So, like, we can't go play in Turkey. We have to meet at a mutual site. So we'll meet in Serbia. Teams that it's smoke with. We always meet in a mutual site. All our Israeli games are played in Israel, of course, but our European league games, the games that. It's a Greek team or a Turkish team or, or, you know, any team like that, or it's kind of smoke. We all. We always meet at a mutual site.

[Hank]

So what about the game? How does the game translate to the Israeli league?

[Pat Beverly]

So first. So first. The minutes are short. We play 10 minutes a quarter. Okay, that's. That's timing wise. You can't. It's no defense of three seconds. So you can just stand in the panel or you just park out there. Yeah. All day. Right. So it's really beat your man to activate the big guy to make the next play. Right. So you don't see a ton of guys going, I don't know, 20s and 25 points a game over there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know, so there's a guy just standing under the hoop, basically just swatting shots all day. That's crazy.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. Literally living in the pain, crowded, paint, making you, you know, make the right play consistently every single time.

[Big Cat]

And do you, do you. You haven't gotten a technical yet. Is that because of the language barrier? Because I'm sure you've said things that should get you a technical.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, I just been. I don't know. It's wild when I play. When I had a ball A lot. I'm so focused on like the game and focused on like, okay, trying to win the game, trying to do small things to win the game. That I'm not over dramatic or over like. I wouldn't say emotional, but just in character. In the NBA, I can do that. I can get away with that a lot. And they're quicker to give me a tech also.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Is it more like. You're also like, in the NBA, there's the Pat Bev role where you come in, you fuck shit up. You're kind of a pest. You make things a problem for them. Get in their heads.

[Pat Beverly]

No.

[Hank]

And then I would imagine maybe I'm wrong. But in. In your current setup, you get in the game because you're expected to be like a leader. And I don't know how ball dominant you are, but you're like one of.

[Pat Beverly]

The best players that's over there. Yeah. The superstar.

[Hank]

So you can't be getting text.

[Pat Beverly]

Can't be getting text. You can't have that. Any type of energy, you know, so it's all. It's. For me, it's okay. I'm seeing double teams every night. I'm seeing triple teams every night. I'm saying, you know, the best defenders on me. Every night. I'm saying I'm dribbling ISO. I see guys running to me. Oh, I gotta make extra play. So it's just a different role.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So the people that are saying, like, Pat Bev got soft. Cause he's not getting technicals. What would you say to those people?

[Pat Beverly]

I mean, my numbers are getting better offensively, so I guess it's working.

[Big Cat]

More focused.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. More locked in. Yeah. And I can get away with it in NBA because you know, NBA, the refs, they know me. They know me. I'm an elbow a motherfucker. I'm gonna say, yeah, his bum ass. He can't fucking shoot. Fuck you. You. You know, I'm gonna say that type of. In the game, which is they. They gonna give me a tag, but they're not gonna really kick me out. You know, you can work your way with the refs in NBA.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right, so I got a tough question for you.

[Pat Beverly]

Two tough questions. Okay, Two.

[Big Cat]

First tough question is the way last year ended not the best, because obviously you guys got bounced. You threw a pass to someone. Like I look ready for a pass.

[Hank]

No, he's wearing a uniform.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You were just trying to get some numbers up on the pod afterwards.

[Pat Beverly]

No.

[Big Cat]

You were just asking people to subscribe.

[Pat Beverly]

No.

[Big Cat]

Do you think Any of that. Like, how did it work in the off season when you were trying to figure out where you're going to play? Was that part of it at all, or was it you wanted to go play in Israel?

[Pat Beverly]

I don't think it helped.

[Big Cat]

It didn't help, right?

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, I'm going to say that I don't think it helped. But we still had, what, two, three offers for the minimum.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know, so it wasn't like a blackballed situation.

[Pat Beverly]

No, I don't. I don't think so.

[Big Cat]

I had.

[Pat Beverly]

I had offers. I see. I got offers now to come back, you know.

[Big Cat]

So are you looking at those offers?

[Pat Beverly]

I am.

[Big Cat]

I mean, the goal, I would assume, is to eventually get back in the NBA. Correct.

[Pat Beverly]

I mean, not back in the NBA. It's. It's when you're out of it. Right. And you see teams that you used to be on kind of struggling a little bit.

[Big Cat]

All of your teams.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. And you see that, you know, your setup, you know, the stage that you on and, like, the big stage.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Like, being away from it. There's no other fucking stage like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Like, no other stage. And I don't give a fuck. And I'm not even talking about a playoff game or a cup game or like a Eastern Conference game or a championship game. I'm absolutely talking about fucking game 16 of the season. You're on the fucking biggest show in the world.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Pat Beverly]

There's no other place like that.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Pat Beverly]

So, like, organically, as a kid, NBA dream, I feel the need of, like, damn, I want that. I want to go back there. There.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

And.

[Big Cat]

And the one thing I love about you is you have the utmost confidence at all times. That's why you're. That's why you've made it so far in the NBA. That's why you've played for so long. Was how last season ended. Was it humbling at all? Where it's like, okay, Pat, like, just take a step back. Maybe got a. You know, like, was there any of that?

[Pat Beverly]

No.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Pat Beverly]

In my mind, you got to think. In my mind, I'm like, shit. I just literally want a playoff game by myself. I ain't gonna say by myself, but. But, you know, the.

[Big Cat]

You got everyone injured on the box.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. And then I had to step up, and then we win an elimination game that, you know, a lot of people counted us out for. So in my mind, and, you know, with the, you know, different games in Boston, and, you know, the freedom I had with Nick Nurse and the freedom I had with the Bucs like you. For me, that was probably one of my best NBA offensive years ever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

You know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

So I took it as okay, cool. I still got a lot of juice in the tank. I. I take care of my body like a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? Like, I spend a ton of my body each year to be healthy and prepare for entire season. So to me, it's like, okay, now I made a ton of money. I made almost $100 million in NBA. I get to go somewhere else where they're paying me more than the minimum, which no matter if I had a career year or not, if Russell Westbrook takes minimum, Cali takes minimum, guess what, papea, you get minimum. That's just how it is. Regardless of my play or. Or a ball getting thrown or whatever the situation be. And I don't think that's fair. That's the. That was my issue.

[Big Cat]

Like, right.

[Pat Beverly]

I work my ass off. I had better years than all the. Why the fuck I'm getting the minimum.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

You know.

[Hank]

Okay, just a podcaster to podcaster after the game, when they ask you to elaborate on what happened.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Instead of just right away saying, subscribe to the Pat Bev Pod. I know you're a great marketer, but instead of saying that right away, why don't you do like a tease? You start answering the question and you say, to hear my full thoughts, subscribe to the bar. Or you could do a podcast live, in person to that reporter. Answer the question, but in the middle of your answer, throw in an ad read.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So you start talking about what happened, and then he says, bring them on. By the way, subscribe to BetterHelp.

[Big Cat]

BetterHelp.com.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, but mine was. Or like originally, that was mine throughout. Since I've had the pot.

[Big Cat]

Right. Yeah, you've been doing that. That wasn't just a one off.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, that one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I agree with that. Have you thought. Thought about maybe instead of saying, are you subscribed to Pat Bev Pod? You can't ask me a question unless you subscribe to the Pat Bev Pod. If you ask them, are you subscribed to. Pardon my take, because the answer would probably be yes. So then they can ask you the question.

[Pat Beverly]

No, probably not, though. Depend on who I'm talking to. That was an NBA crew. I mean, that was the ESPN crew I'm talking to.

[Hank]

No, they're closeted fans. They go home and shame.

[Big Cat]

They won't admit it for sure. I mean, obviously, I think you. You said it afterwards. Like, you should have handled it better, but it wasn't. It did get spun out as, like. I can't believe he. He said this. Like. No, he's been saying it all year.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, but it's like that because we're. We're in media, right? So anything that, you know is frowned upon. I don't know, something done, they go try to make the next thing seem like the worst thing. Yeah, I've never. I've never punched anyone. Right. I never hit any of my teammates. I never said, fuck you, coach. I'm walking out of practice. I've never got kicked out of practice. Practice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Ever since I've been in the NBA. You know what I'm saying? So, like, my behavior is one thing, but, like, it's a lot of that I haven't done also.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

You know, which. You know, which shows why I've been in the league so long also.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

No, there's a reason why you keep getting. You keep getting signed to teams in the NBA because you're a valuable piece and a good teammate for the most part.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah. But sometimes they get caught up in, like, the theatrics. But we said at the time, we were like, pat has been telling every.

[Pat Beverly]

Reporter no since I have the podcast.

[Hank]

Since you had the podcast, It's a standard answer for you. I've got an easy question for you, and we talked about it a little bit on Sunday when you came in. You're playing overseas in Israel. Solve the Mideast crisis.

[Pat Beverly]

Wow. Solve the Middle east crisis.

[Hank]

Yeah. Create peace in the Middle East.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. For one, I don't think that I can solve it.

[Big Cat]

Okay, good answer. That's a really good answer.

[Hank]

That's the right answer.

[Big Cat]

That was a really good answer.

[Pat Beverly]

Right.

[Hank]

So how are. How are you keeping up with the NBA while you're over there? What's the time difference?

[Pat Beverly]

Like, so. Oh, shit. So what? My 3. 3:00pm It's 7:00am Here, so all the first game, 6:00pm Is probably like 1:00 in the morning my time. Right. So not keeping it up with a ton, but a ton of highlights, but not that I'm with DraftKings. Shout out to DraftKings. It's kind of exciting to kind of be up a couple hours now trying to see scores. Trying to see who the fuck score wasn't in the first quarter type shit. So, yeah, shout out DraftKings.

[Big Cat]

All right, so I got a question about this NBA. The Cavs.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They've. I mean, this is running on Wednesday So they play the Celtics in a few hours and they might lose that game, but they started undefeated. What is it about the Cavs? Kenny. I mean, Kenny Atkinson is a really good.

[Pat Beverly]

It was my coaching Clippers.

[Big Cat]

So. Yeah. So tell me about Kenny Atkinson. What is it? What does he do that. That makes it. Because it feels like the Cavs last year they were a good team, playoff team. But this is. They're playing out of their mind right now.

[Pat Beverly]

So when he had. First off, Kenny A. As a player's coach. Right. First off, when you speak about Kenny A, you gotta understand this. This is a coach that crosses every T, dots, every I. Right when I was there, he wasn't the coach running to go work with Kawhi Paul George. He was working with me, Nick Batum and Zubok, you know, so you can understand this kind of collar of work, dealing with the type of players he dealt with. And he was the head of the individual performance side, you know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

So when you see a coach like that, his ability, like, you know, I think he, he ran our offense, you know, but the way he teached it, the way he taught it, the way he ran it, or the. I don't think I've ever heard him say. I don't know, I probably heard him say some curse word, but never at someone, you know. A phenomenal guy. Yeah, phenomenal man. Yeah, phenomenal man. And I think like if you, if you have. Your coaching is all about your. It's never about X and O's. If somebody down there, coaching staff got X and O's, it's all about how hard can your players play for you in motivation. Yeah, right. So, right, you can be a coach that has 0x no's, but you have your team run through a motherfucking wall from you. That's half the battle right there. And that's all coaching is. That's all coaching is. And the moment you take a player aside and the moment you do something that just, you know, does not go, you know. Because as a coach, you have to think you're a coach, you're a father figure. That's literally where coaches start from. But the moment you cross that line because of money, the moment you cross that line because relationships start letting guys do what they want, that's when you become a bad coach and lose the shit. Yeah, all the good coaches, they coach the same. Obviously you have your star players, but we're going to coach you the fucking same. No, you can't be late or you can't be fucking late. That's how we're going to run things. So if you have more of those, I think the game will change with basketball and with coaching. And that's all you're saying right there.

[Big Cat]

How much of the Cavs success is because of the dancing frog?

[Pat Beverly]

Put me on. I'm not aware.

[Big Cat]

So there was in Cleveland, there was a guy in a frog costume that he was dancing in the streets after the Cavs won a couple games, and now they've invited him in, and he dances in the arena after they win. How important is that if you're a player? Because I feel like that's pretty damn important.

[Pat Beverly]

Okay. I mean, as a player, I probably wouldn't even know that. Okay. Yeah, I probably wouldn't even know that.

[Big Cat]

From a fan's perspective, I would say Kenny Atkinson deserves, I don't know, 20% of the credit. The players, another 20. The dancing frog, 60%.

[Pat Beverly]

Okay, so. So, like, from a fan, if you come there, Dancing frog's not there. He's sick. You're like, we're losing. Cancel the game. We're fucked.

[Hank]

Fake an injury.

[Pat Beverly]

Classic fan. I like that, though.

[Hank]

Give you a little management that way.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, it's like a. I want to play. It's like a game within. Within the game type of vibe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, it's also one of those situations where every team that has that momentum and they're maybe, like, on the cusp of a special season, it always feels like there's some little funny story that they start rallying around, whether it's a slogan, a dancing frog, and we've seen it a million times.

[Hank]

I would give 25% credit to George Ng.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Most wins in the NBA since 2020.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, he's. He's. He. He can hoop, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he can.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. Plays the right way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Plays the right way all the time. Yeah, he can hoop, though. Surprise.

[Big Cat]

I'm reading right now. Jared Allen said, I've been wanting to dance with that frog since I seen. Seen him. So he. He was. And then Froggy the Frog finally showed up.

[Hank]

Wait, his name's Froggy the Frog?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Froggy is here.

[Hank]

That's okay.

[Pat Beverly]

Froggy is here.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it's a she. I'm sorry?

[Hank]

Froggy is a she.

[Big Cat]

Froggy is here, and there are no plans for her to leave anytime soon.

[Pat Beverly]

Love that.

[Big Cat]

City has embraced the dancing frog. I need to understand.

[Pat Beverly]

So, yeah, this is Ms. Froggy.

[Big Cat]

Ms. Froggy.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And the whole city is just embracing the frog.

[Pat Beverly]

Love that.

[Big Cat]

I think that's more important than people realize. It's just. It's a. It's a dancing frog. Yeah.

[Hank]

Do vibes have anything to do with a team success? Like, if a city is having fun.

[Pat Beverly]

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Like, you go like a place like Miami, the vibe's always gonna be fun, Right? But you don't want it to be too fun. It drains you. Right. I think some of. Some of our, like, sick, sick game days and sick, like, you know, the night before the games is like Phoenix, where you can have some fun. You can have a nice dinner, you can go out to a nice bar, but you're not gonna be out to, you know, 4:00 in the morning, 5:00 in the morning. That's a 1:30 type of night, but with the same amount of fun, the same adrenaline pumping through your veins, the same vibes going through around, you know, but it gets. When you to a place like New York and it's a lot of distractions and, you know, hour here, hour there. Next thing you know, it's time to go to sleep. And you're trying to battle with the time of getting rest and not doing things, but keeping routine. I think that's when it becomes a problem then.

[Big Cat]

So I got a dumb question. How often, if you're a player, are you looking at the standings? Are you actually like, okay, where are we at the standings? Is it every day or is it.

[Pat Beverly]

Just like every five games?

[Big Cat]

Every five games you look at.

[Pat Beverly]

So every five games will kind of tell you. Tell you exactly where you at, where you headed at.

[Big Cat]

So if you're the Sixers right now and you look at the standings and you're 2 and 11, man.

[Pat Beverly]

Unbelievable.

[Big Cat]

2 and 11, is that right? Max, can we get a stat check on that? I'll pull it up.

[Hank]

Because I texted to the group last night just to make max 12 games.

[Big Cat]

Out of first place, and they've only played 13 games.

[Pat Beverly]

My question to you all, who do you think they need more? Was it Pepe? Embiid? Paul, Georgia, Maxi? Maxi's been out all three of them. I think they need the game that they've been. They've won. Maxi's played.

[Big Cat]

Okay, is the record correct, Max?

[Hank]

It's 2 and 11.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be 2 and 11.

[Big Cat]

Correct. 2 and 11. That's bad.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How, at what point in the season are you, like, because you've been on some teams that have not been great. Like, is there a moment in the season where you're like, all right, this is kind of what we are? No, you keep fighting.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. Yeah. You always keep Fighting. Yeah, right. I've not been. I haven't.

[Big Cat]

I haven't been on, like, a 2 and 11 team.

[Pat Beverly]

I'm sure with the Lakers.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That was bad.

[Pat Beverly]

That was brutal.

[Hank]

Where'd you guys end up that year?

[Pat Beverly]

I don't know. I end up with the Bulls that year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. Hell of a run we made, too.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Pat Beverly]

I think we.

[Big Cat]

We made a run all the way to playing game 15.

[Pat Beverly]

Eight since I was there, or 15 and nine since I was there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do you think J R Special lose the playing game?

[Hank]

You think the Sixers, they could use a guy like Patrick Beverly?

[Pat Beverly]

Any team, right? Any team. You know, and I'm. And I'm just. No, I'm not, you know, gassing myself, but, you know, my work has been shown in NBA. Any team.

[Big Cat]

Spark.

[Pat Beverly]

Any team. Any team. It's just when you get pat, you adapt my personality to the team more than anything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Right. So the personality might be, I don't know, game, I don't know, 39, and you're playing in fucking Portland and it's cold and it's fucking gray outside. Right. My competitive spirit go. Feel like game 39, game two, game three of the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

I'm catching vibe. And it rubs off on you. My ability to be focused and shoot around and treat each game like a championship game, like that shit rubs off on you. And next thing you know. Yeah. You playing 82 games, but you treating the motherfuckers all like playoff games, too. So the energy is different, you know, the competitive spirit is there more, you know, when I'm on a team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And that's the spark. Because it's a long season and you see that all the time. Where teams will just kind of take off nights. They don't take off a night with Papev on the team.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. I can't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. And at the same time, I'm the player also that's still trying to prove myself.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

So I'm like, okay, fuck it. This guy's not playing. Okay. This is my time to come up and show every motherfucker. Yeah. I can score it. Oh, this guy's not playing. Okay, cool. Let me lock his ass up. So it's always a opportunity for me. I always took it as an opportunity to, like, showcase my talents also.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Is there one team that you watch not being in the NBA right now and you still feel like you root for them More like. That was a special team. The Bucks.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, man.

[Hank]

I saw you. You told Giannis, make your free Throws.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, that's my dog. I just was there a short, short time. But, like, when you go to the playoffs with a team, right, and you go through not only the playoffs, but, like, ups and downs with a team, right? And then you go through the playoffs, you go through the ups and downs, then you go through injuries with a team, right? I mean, that's everything you can ask for in sports all summed up in one. And to have a chance with that happened all from my time there into the playoffs was. It made us okay, fuck it. No Giannis. We gotta get closer, we gotta get better off. Fuck it. No Middleton. Oh, fuck it. We gotta get better, we gotta get closer. Fuck it. No Dame. Oh, fuck it. We gotta get better, we gotta get closer. It just made you a tight net ass family, you know, and then you have those opportunities, the playoffs, the guy's not healthy. Everyone's rooting against you, you on the road. It forces a bond that, you know, you don't get from a lot of teams.

[Big Cat]

Do you feel. If you're a PAPEV and you're playing on a team with LeBron or Giannis, do you feel extra pressure? Being like there's a standard that they're playing at that I have to reach?

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. So it was one time I was with the Lakers, and we're playing in. We're playing in Boston, and I think. I think I just got a tip dunk, or I think I just hit a big shot and I'm at the free throw line. I missed the free throw, and then Bron gave me a look like, come on, man, make your mother fucking free throw.

[Big Cat]

Something like that.

[Pat Beverly]

And I'm like, oh, shit. Like you. Right, right. But now I take that. Like, I think I've only missed three free throws this entire year. And I remember that. That was my motivation to, you know what? Make your motherfucker free throws.

[Big Cat]

That's like the definition of greatness, is everyone is a great player lifts everyone else's game.

[Pat Beverly]

So now that's me on my team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

I don't give a fuck, man. I don't give a fuck how many free throws you miss. One through three, fourth quarter. Make your fucking free throws.

[Big Cat]

And do you have that feeling, too? Like, say you're playing with Giannis, where it's not. It's not like Giannis has got us. But I would imagine players play with more confidence knowing Giannis is on your team and not their team.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. And. And then also on the other hand, players play with less confidence when, you know you Got to go against Giannis.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right.

[Pat Beverly]

You know, and I can make more mistakes. Right, Right. So my mistakes aren't magnified if Giannis is not out there versus when he is out there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

So I can go for steel. I can take a bullshit ass charge. That ref might call charge because of my name, not because of how my footing was. I might take fucked up shot. I might go offensive rebound when I was supposed to get. You know, Giannis got us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Bron got us. But that comes with greatness also.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

You know, and I'm learning that on the other end also now that I'm playing where I'm playing at, like, it's a lot of stuff that my teammates allowed to do that I just can't do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know, they're looking to you.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Have you seen. Seen Cooper Flag play basketball?

[Pat Beverly]

Football player?

[Big Cat]

Basketball?

[Pat Beverly]

Never played basketball. No, I haven't seen that.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Because handsome white guy, white boys might be back.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I might be the number one pick. American white boys might be back.

[Hank]

He's so white.

[Big Cat]

A lot has changed since you got into Israel.

[Hank]

He's for. He's so white. The dude's from Maine.

[Big Cat]

Right, boys?

[Hank]

Cooper flag.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Just keep your eye on ball.

[Big Cat]

He can hoop. He might be the first white guy drafted number one overall American white guy drafted one number one overall since, like, the 70s.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. But my thing about that, I like. I like him. I like him at Duke. I like.

[Big Cat]

You've never seen him play.

[Pat Beverly]

I've never seen him play up close in person, but I've seen highlights.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Okay.

[Pat Beverly]

He has size.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Fact.

[Pat Beverly]

And he has. It seems like he has some type of toughness.

[Big Cat]

He's got toughness.

[Pat Beverly]

And I think. And I think regardless of what your skill is, is that if you have size and you have toughens, that's gonna carry you up.

[Hank]

He's so good. He's an. He's an elite white guy that plays a Duke. That is not hateable.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I mean, it's a long season right now. He's an easy guy to root for because he's just so fucking good.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

Toughness that you ever played with?

[Pat Beverly]

The most toughness where you're like, damn.

[Big Cat]

Even. Because you're considered obviously a tough player.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But you see you play with someone or play against someone, you're like, damn. Even. Even. I feel kind of like a wimp compared to this person.

[Pat Beverly]

Russ. Yeah, that motherfucker tough. He don't die.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. He just keep coming at you. Don't just. I don't give a Are we down? We're up. I don't give a fuck what's going on. I'm just keep coming at you. Keep coming at you like Russ. Easy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Unbelievable. Toughness.

[Big Cat]

I see that.

[Hank]

Did you ever have a teammate that was that tough, that was like, you know, like, respect? You two kind of went at it to see who could be the toughest guy on your own team, who was going to be the tough guy? No, because it's always you.

[Pat Beverly]

No. Yeah. And, like, I get on the thing with me and Bobby and then. But I'm older, so it's like, Bobby, understand that I went to Arkansas before him. You know, I've paid the way, you know, before him. So it's always a respect thing. And I'm coming. You gotta think when I'm on the team, I'm not coming. Like, hey, man, give me the motherfucking ball. I wanna shoot. You know, like, nah, I'm not coming like that. I'm coming more like, hey, you know, if we swing that around a couple more times, you get that same shot, wide open type of shit, you know? So, like, it's just. It's just different. Yeah.

[Hank]

You were talking about Giannis earlier. You do a pretty funny impression of Giannis, like the first time that he told you, like, I wanna play with you one day.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Can you tell that story?

[Pat Beverly]

No. So I. We're home, we're playing Milwaukee, and I'm with Minnesota, and how the Western Conference and the Eastern Conference work, that you don't really get to see Eastern Conference home a lot. It's just one home, one away. So I think we seen them the first game of the season, and obviously, you know, we seen them in Milwaukee. So, you know, you want to plan while you're at home. You know, you practice pregame thinking it's Giannis. You take your nap. Okay, cool. You thinking it's Giannis, you get to the game, I don't see any Giannis. I'm fucking frustrated now. I'm actually angry now. Yeah, I think I got kicked out of that game. I think I've only played that game, that same game that we're talking about. I think I only played two minutes. I think I shoved the guy and kicked me out, literally. So we working out pregame. I don't know, 60 on. I don't know, 70 on the clock, you know, before the game starts. And I see Giannis is a late scratch. I go, man, what the fuck, man? I wanted to play him. I go out, I see Thanasis. Shout out to Thanasis, his older brother. And his older brother's always been a fan of me, obviously, because I played in Greek when they were, you know, around there at the same time. So he's always been a fan of my upbringing and how I started from Greece. So I see him and I'm like, yo, where the fuck your brother at? Why the fuck he duck and smoke? He laugh at me like, nah, nah, man. He in the back. He in the back. Nah, fuck that, man. Tell his ass to play. So I start my workout. I look up, I see Greek coming out the tunnel. Okay, for sure. He about to come over here. He go, excuse me, guys. Excuse me, guys. Excuse me, guys. Like, you gotta understand. This is like. This is Greek freak.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

This isn't like, I don't know, Grayson Allen or somebody, you know? This is Greek freak walking through another professional's individual shooting time with other NBA coaches. Stopping. Excuse me, guys.

[Big Cat]

Excuse me.

[Pat Beverly]

Like, stopping everything. Like. Like, pat, I never duck smoke. I never duck smoke. I never, never. I duck smoke. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, shout out to Greek, man. That was the first time. I'm like, oh, yeah, this motherfucker the real deal. Yeah, motherfucker, the real deal.

[Big Cat]

He's. He also is like. He's. I feel like he's. Because of the injuries and how everything's gone down the last couple years, people have kind of forgotten him.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, how great he is.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. I don't think forgotten. I think that, you know, when you don't win it, you get hurt. You don't win it. I don't know. You win it, you win it while you're hurt. You know, you fucked this shit up, you know, early that. That playoffs come back, give a 60. I think they're looking for that person all the time now since they got a. Since that happened, you know, And I don't think that's fair to the player.

[Hank]

Yeah, that was a legendary run. He went on that finals, just absolutely dominant. And then afterwards, he goes to Chick Fil a and orders 50 chicken nuggets and slams regular.

[Big Cat]

Dude. What was your favorite memory? Being teammates is Robin Lopez.

[Pat Beverly]

Robin Lopez. I wasn't teammates with Rob.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you were. He tweeted last year. February 8, 2024. This is when you. The trade deadline. I enjoy being teammates with Patrick Beverly for all of an hour and 45 minutes. I'll never forget those times.

[Pat Beverly]

He's great, too. Him and Brooke, you were teammates.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're an hour and 45.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. I don't think I. We. We even shook hands.

[Big Cat]

No, there's no way he didn't show up. No.

[Pat Beverly]

No way. He's great, though. That family is great, man. Mom is great.

[Big Cat]

The other Night, didn't he? What did he hit? He went five or five from threes.

[Pat Beverly]

And I think he had the Magic Johnson up and under layup, too. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

They're still dominating. Hey, I have a teammate question, though. For real?

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

B Ball Paul. Paul Reed.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Is he as cool as I've made it out in my head?

[Pat Beverly]

Okay. Will you say cool?

[Big Cat]

I mean, he just. His nickname's B Ball Paul.

[Pat Beverly]

All right. Okay, I got a question. When you. When you see. When you. When you look at a person like Paul Reed, what do you instantly see?

[Big Cat]

Well, it's not looking at him. It's the fact that he's B Ball Paul. And they chant, B Ball Paul. And that's, like, the funniest nickname possible.

[Pat Beverly]

Frank the Tank vibe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right. B Ball Paul. Like, that's a funny. Kind of like the frog in Cleveland. That's the fan experience.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, you tell Max, B Ball Paul. I mean, he's. He hustles.

[PFT Commenter]

I love B Ball Paul. He's not on the Sixers anymore, but, you know, he's a guy who came from the G League.

[Big Cat]

Out the mud.

[PFT Commenter]

Out the mud. Out the mud. Sweatshirts are fun, are funny and cool that he would make his own merch and sell it himself.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he would. That was the other thing. Yeah, you would. You'd have to just Venmo him. I Venmo him for a shirt. He didn't have a store. Yeah. He sent me out the mud.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, he's like a good success story, you know, Fought for what he got, and he was a good player, and I hope he's doing well.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

B Ball Paul.

[Pat Beverly]

I mean, don't. You can't just throw dog on everybody.

[Big Cat]

I think B Ball Paul's a dog.

[Pat Beverly]

A dog?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

What kind? That's difference. Like, I have a Yorkie.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know. You have a little. Little. You have almost a cat.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He might be like a golden retriever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Just like, lovable, Right? Yeah, right.

[Hank]

You like when he's around.

[Pat Beverly]

Love. When he's around.

[Big Cat]

He's a golden retriever. And then also, like, he's very lovable also. Maybe has, like, saved the kid out of a. Well or something type. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's had one, like, great moment.

[Pat Beverly]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Like, damn.

[Hank]

He had the dog that got the key to the city for having a great week.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. And then fell in the wheel. Yeah. Had to get helped out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Right, right, right, right. We're on the same page. Yeah.

[Hank]

So you were talking. You were talking about Maxie Earlier, Hank just sent this over to us here. There's a report that the Sixers held a team meeting last night and Tyrese Maxey called out Joel Embiid for being late, quote, to all team activities and everything. Everything and everything.

[Big Cat]

All period.

[Hank]

All team activities and everything. So that implies everything is everything. Even not team activities.

[Big Cat]

Every. He's been. He's just late on everything.

[Hank]

He's just late to everything.

[Big Cat]

Damn.

[Hank]

And he cites how that impacts the locker room, other players and coaches. Does being late, does that make an effect on. On the general climate of an NBA team?

[Pat Beverly]

I think on any team. I think in any workspace also. Right. I've always liked to be, I don't know, seven, eight minutes early before anything.

[Big Cat]

Well, let's be honest here.

[Pat Beverly]

We came record at 11.

[Big Cat]

What? Nope. Was it 10:30 or.

[Pat Beverly]

We record at 11.

[Big Cat]

What time did you walk in?

[Pat Beverly]

12 minutes before recording.

[Big Cat]

You walked in at 10:41.

[Pat Beverly]

19 minutes before recording.

[Big Cat]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Pat Beverly]

So I'm actually on time.

[Big Cat]

Okay, okay.

[Pat Beverly]

But as far as basketball, though, I'm the guy that's like, you know, I like to be on the bus first. I like to be in the weight room first. I like to be ready like that. You're not on time, it can rub off some people. But if you not on time and you give a motherfucking 70. Yeah, right. It's been times where Joel Embiid wasn't on time to motherfucking to practice. And you know me. Come on, Joe, man. What's up, G? Come on, man. Come on, Joe. Come on, Joe, be better. Joe, be great. Joe, be great. And then his response would be like, what the fuck, man? You give me all the fucking bed. I'm fucking an hour and a half away. I mean, I had to get up two hours, you know, before. Cause everyone doesn't live at the same spot. You know what I'm saying? So, like, what we gonna do? Give me the motherfucking ball. That same night, he had 50 and we won.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

You know, I think we were 219 the first 30 games. Like the best record since 2004. Allen Iverson, when I was with Philly. So it's just surprising to see, especially. Cause all the hard work that Nick nursing his coaches have put in, just hard to see how many.

[Hank]

An hour and a half is a long way to travel like Brandon walker.

[Pat Beverly]

Does before 9:00 film, which means you gotta get up 7. And I'm saying. I ain't saying that. You know, obviously, like, we have different jobs. Every is getting up at 6 o'clock in the morning. So when everyone's different. But, you know, if you were to start, I don't have a problem with it. And I'm the road guy and I'm the, like the, you know, the temperature of the locker room. You feel me? Like, I know you're not doing it to be ultimately disrespectful. I know you don't show up to games late. I know you don't show up to practices late. Like, you know, but if you got at 9:00 in the morning, shoot around and you gotta get up, you know, two hours before, you know, I don't think that's fair also, you know, so it's just. It's just different strokes, different folks and Tyrese's Song. But if that was B ball, Paul, it wouldn't be. Nah, that's not even a conversation. You can't even be talking late. Right. You can't be late. But, you know, it comes with the. You know, it comes with the status.

[Big Cat]

Also, is there such a thing as too many team player only meetings?

[Pat Beverly]

No, I. I think you need to have more.

[PFT Commenter]

No, this wasn't a player only meeting.

[Big Cat]

Oh, fact check. Coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Coaches were also involved in.

[Big Cat]

The coaches.

[Hank]

In front of his coaches.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, I'm just. You were giving false information about players only meetings. I actually wasn't, but it was in context.

[Big Cat]

No, but I wasn't giving false information because I said, is there such thing as too many players only meetings? That's a fair question.

[Memes]

Players also asked the coaches to be coached harder.

[Hank]

Oh, okay. So it also says that he was late to all team activities and everything. Also implying that Joel Embiid was late to players only meetings. That's part of everything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he would have been.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, but I don't think it was a player. I was only meeting that early before then anyway. So what's the.

[Hank]

What's the earliest players only meeting that.

[Pat Beverly]

You sound like this one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but it wasn't. Max is saying it wasn't. What? When a player's only meeting. Is there too many, though? Like, can you have too many? Because we see it every now and then where it's like they've had their third players only meeting in the last month. That feels like too many.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, but see, you gotta understand what goes on. Like a player only mean this motherfucker. Get in there, you. Hey. So what the fuck going on? What we gonna do?

[Big Cat]

It's not really formal. You kick out the coaches. Do you say coaches? Get out of here. Yes, I like that part.

[Pat Beverly]

Like, yes, y'all get the fuck out. Like. Like, let's talk straight up. Or you bring a coach in who's like, the players coach, who's cool. That can kind of give you information of what the coach installed is, but also can take information. Like, this is the player stall also playing the. Yeah, they kind of mesh it together. Cause you don't wanna be in there having a meeting the whole time. You get out of the meeting, you like, oh, man, that's. You know, coaches, they on the same. Whole different page than we on. Okay, cool. Let's all get organized.

[Big Cat]

We get a new player, and they don't know exactly.

[Pat Beverly]

We got this going on, man. You feel me? Like, I feel like. I feel like. You feel me? I'm shooting the ball a lot. I feel like I can get. I can get better shots. What can I do to make a team better? What can I do to help you? What can I do to help you? And then I go, like, okay, cool. Fuck all that. Let's just talk about roles. Like, you tell me your role, I tell you my role, and we just go all the way down. And then you'll hear some people roles, and then you'll be like, okay, y'all agree with that? And some guys will be like, nah, I don't think that's your role. But that helps you, though, right? Right? That helps you. Okay, cool. In my mind, I thought my role was screen, screen, screen. Roll, roll, roll. Whole time, this guy wants the star player, wants my role to no pop and shoot all the time. I might have thought my role was to shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. No, my role is not to shoot. My role is to offensive rebound, block shots, and take charges. I might think my role is, okay, cool. I'm the leader of this team. No, no, no, no, no. You're the energy guy of this team. You're the guy that makes sure we have energy. So getting roles with your players, with your. You know, with those guys first kind of like, okay, cool. It gets you a different perspective, you know? And I think that helps more than anything.

[Hank]

It gives you clarity, like, what you actually should be doing to make the rest of the team better based on what they want from you.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. And then you'll say shit like, hey, bro, yeah, okay, I feel that. I feel that their role is to score. But you want to score that bitch like that, you got to assure us you're a pro, too, bro. You got to be on time. Yeah, right. Like, everybody got shit to do, right? I remember one Time. I think Wyatt walked in late, right? And there's very few times where Kawhi kind of walked in late, but I think something happened. He walked in late. He was standing in San Diego. I don't know. Helicopter was late type shit, right? I go, kawhi, like, hey, I know shit happened, but we all got shit to do, right? We all pros, we all millionaires. Shit. Most of all, all us got kids. Like, I understand. Like, we sitting here waiting on you. That's not 30 minutes at the end of practice that I could be. Be on my way home to my son or some, right? Like, I ain't telling you what to do. Just respect the grind, right? You tell a that straight up. Got to do what? Respect it. Like, man, you know what? You right, bro. I can be better. Yeah, that helps you, too. Yeah, I can be better. All right. You know, so, like, I think any type of meeting, any type of, you know, any type of discussion about, I don't know, getting better, I think that's always, yeah, perfect medicine.

[Big Cat]

Who is the best player in the NBA right now?

[Pat Beverly]

Jokic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was the correct answer. All right. You still know ball?

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Good job.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, he is Jokic.

[Hank]

He seems like he'd be fun to play with, too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he just spreads it everywhere. Makes everyone better.

[Pat Beverly]

Plays the right way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, plays the right way. Every time he has the ball, it's like the gravity towards him just keeps it gets everyone open. It's nuts watching him play.

[Pat Beverly]

I had a. I don't know, I think this was the bubble year. 2020 y. We about to play Denver, and I'm watching him work out, and it's one of the Denver coaches. I don't even know his fucking name. Assistant guy. I go, it's two things that make him great. I go to the coach, what do you think it is? And the options in my head was his passing ability or his feel for the ball, right? You know, a coach goes, a coach that's probably never played NBA basketball, go, oh, the way he can pass it. Yeah. That's a lot of motherfuckers that can pass, though. And I honestly think it's his feeling for the ball, right? I know a ton of motherfuckers that can pass, but, like, a one second pass is worse than a three pass. Like, get it literally, like in your hand, out your hand to the next guy. Like, the defense can't even rotate then getting it, same pass, but defense is contesting the shot. Like his. His feel for the game, his feel for the ball. I think is one of his best attributes.

[Big Cat]

It's like the difference in football of like throwing someone open, where it's like you're throwing the ball before they're open type, and they get open as the ball gets there type. Jokic is doing that where he knows it, where every. It's. It's almost like he's playing chess on the court where it's like, I know where this guy's about to cut to. The ball will be there.

[Pat Beverly]

Look here, pass here. Look here, pass here.

[Big Cat]

Like you can't defend against him.

[Pat Beverly]

And he's so. He's so tall and so a rather large man that it makes it very difficult.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I love it when he. He puts the ball above his head. It's like he's going towards the hoop ball above his head, and then he just throws it backwards.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But it's like one of the fastest passes that you've ever seen.

[Pat Beverly]

And it whips it backwards and it's got its open. It's where he shoots also.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

So you have to. Not only, oh, what you doing with the ball up there? All shit, he might shoot this motherfucker. So he get. He gives you. He gives you a triple threat of a. You know, usually you're taught triple threat. You talk the ball down here, you high jab.

[PFT Commenter]

Ha, ha, ha.

[Pat Beverly]

Triple threat threat. He's giving you triple threat here where he can pass and he can shoot. So it's even more deadly. And who do you know? Defense. What big man, you know that can defend up here?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Eyes up here. Boom. One, one dribble. He's gone. Yeah. So possible. Yeah. So he's really good.

[Hank]

You mentioned something earlier. I wanted to talk about your. Your pregame nap.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So it sounds like that's something that you take. You take serious.

[Pat Beverly]

Very serious. Yeah.

[Hank]

So what's your nap schedule before a game?

[Pat Beverly]

So I go, so. So everything is different for me. I don't talk a lot. Right. I'm all about preserving energy. So I don't talk a lot. Right. I don't really break a lot of huddles. Game day. I don't really speak a lot. I'm just preserving a lot of energy. So I wake up, obviously, shower, little cold first, just to wake me up, go hot. After that, go to shoot around. You know, I want to sweat, but I don't want like a drippy sweat. I want a nice lather, not a drippy sweat.

[Big Cat]

I like that. I know exactly.

[Memes]

A mist.

[Pat Beverly]

Right. Right. I want to just be able to come up and just Be okay, cool. I don't want to rub and have like, damn, this shit's getting in my eye, you know. So I just, as soon as I get there, I'm cool. I'm 36, so I know my body like soon as I get there, I'm cool. I don't eat breakfast. I only eat once a day. My meal that I eat every single day for, I don't know, the last nine years has been any type of mixed pasta, cream and tomato sauce with any type of protein. Chicken, fish, steak, right? I eat, I don't know, I feast. Eat a big ass bowl of that shit. Whatever. I'm watching on TV now, it's the Diplomats mixed with a little Sopranos. I pick off where I left off. Not on the tv. Cause I can't watch it on the tv. It has to be my phone. Because when I go to sleep, you know, my phone goes to sleep, it turns off on its own. I don't have to hear shit that might wake me up of a gunshot or just watching the Sopranos. So I can't watch it on tv. Only has to be my phone. So, okay, cool. I'm watching it. Cool, cool. I go to sleep, I let my body do what it does. If it sleeps for three hours. Sleep for three hours. If, if it's tossing and turn and toss and turn.

[Big Cat]

You don't set an alarm?

[Pat Beverly]

Nah, my body kind of does the same thing every time.

[Hank]

Okay, that's a good nap. Three hours is a. That's significant.

[Pat Beverly]

So I go, I go, I come home, I eat while I'm eating. I'm taking my mind off basketball. So I'm playing, I don't know, Call of Duty. I'm in fucking war right now. I'm a soldier, right? Right. Pregame, I'm a soldier. I don't know. 1:30 hit. I probably have to be at the gym at 5:30, 5:00, 1:30 hit. I'm making my way to my bed slowly. Okay, cool. I'm turning off the lights, I'm pissing to make sure I don't have to get up for anything, you know. And I just. After that, I just kind of let my body do what it does. If it sleep for two hours, it sleep for two hours. If it's an hour here, 30 minutes here, 20 minutes here, I kind of let it do its thing.

[Big Cat]

Have you ever overslept by accident?

[Pat Beverly]

No.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so the internal alarm clock wakes you up.

[Pat Beverly]

And I'm a big iron. Like I iron before every game. You iron myself? Like I Love ironing. I found that out, I don't know, three years ago.

[Big Cat]

You just love ironing.

[Pat Beverly]

I literally iron. I was ironing this today.

[Big Cat]

It is actually like a therapeutic thing when you get the whole.

[Pat Beverly]

The whole ironing board. Every hotel, I have to have it. And I. I didn't know I. I did it until like three years, until someone I'm on the phone with, like, there you go, iron again. I'm like, iron again.

[Big Cat]

What do you mean?

[Pat Beverly]

I'm ironing? Then I thought about, like, damn, I am. I'm literally ironing every day.

[Hank]

Do you iron, iron a lot. Do you iron that you're not going to wear that day?

[Pat Beverly]

No.

[Hank]

Just what you're going to wear on the walk into the gym?

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[Hank]

So then you take your nap. You think a lot of players take naps?

[Pat Beverly]

A lot of people do. But then I. I heard the older that you get, guys start like, talk wing and shit. So I think Steph Curry does, like, golf before, you know, just to take his mind off. He got. Think he go shoot some hoes and go from there right to the gym type shit. Some guys have to have naps, you know, like, have to have. They don't have naps. Is. You know, you don't play well. Some guys don't sleep.

[Hank]

You ever dream about the game?

[Pat Beverly]

Not game, but, like, opponent. It'd be crazy.

[Big Cat]

So you're doing film study?

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, but it won't even be like. It'd be like a guy like motherfucking Shabazz Napier or some shit. Raul Neto or some shit. Like, man, I can't let him get off. I can't let him. Like, it ain't even about, like, Russ Dame or like, it's always like, oh, it's okay. Fuck it, man. Peyton Petrie, I can't let him get off type shit. You know what I'm saying? So that's how it is. If it is a dream.

[Hank]

I love that they're going into the game and they have no idea that Pat Bev's been literally dreaming about shutting them down.

[Pat Beverly]

And it's literally the same way while I'm in Europe also. So it's a guy that I'm like, could you guys just give me numbers? Because I know. I don't know names, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, I know all NBA names. Just give me numbers. What does number six do? What does number 95 do? What does number 54 do? And they have wild numbers. I don't know why they're number 77. And like that. But it's like that overseas where it's just like. Okay, I just. Just. I just need to refer to people by numbers because I don't know names. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, Pat, I got one last question. Rollback question.

[Pat Beverly]

Are you guys coming to Tel Aviv? Tel Aviv?

[Big Cat]

Probably not. Okay, rollback question.

[Hank]

Is that within five hours?

[Pat Beverly]

No, within, I don't know, five years.

[Hank]

No, but I mean, like, how long does it take to get there?

[Pat Beverly]

Tel Aviv.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

From.

[Big Cat]

From Chicago.

[Pat Beverly]

So I gotta go here. New York. Which is two and a half.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Three, two. Two, four.

[Hank]

When you talk about, like, getting to the airport type.

[Pat Beverly]

Right. And then I go 12 hour straight flight.

[Hank]

Probably not.

[Big Cat]

Nope.

[Hank]

Probably not gonna do that.

[Big Cat]

All right, roll back question.

[Hank]

Good luck.

[Big Cat]

Luck.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, we'll be rooting for you.

[Pat Beverly]

I'm talking about the Israeli culture and community. Loves me to death.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're rooting for.

[Pat Beverly]

I have people that walk up to me in airport, like, thank you for all you're doing for Israel. In my mind, I'm like. I'm just speaking. I'm just speaking on what I experienced.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, rollback question. Rho bk.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rock.com promo code take. So the Celtics won last year. Did you see Hank on the float with Joe Missoula? He went on the parade. He went on the parade. He was on the duck.

[Pat Beverly]

Is that Hank?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Hank right there. Sitting right there. Producer. Pardon my take. One of our best friends. Known him for almost half his life. No, Hank was on the float with Joe Missoula. Yeah. Grace Dave. His life. I asked that because, hypothetically, if you were to ever win a title.

[Pat Beverly]

Rowan Is there 100.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no. I was gonna ask for Hank. No, it was gonna be wrong.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Ron, be on the. On the. On the. On the float or wherever. With you.

[Pat Beverly]

Won't roll's in my wedding.

[Big Cat]

Okay, great. So I just want to make sure. Because I love Roan, too. I wanted to make sure he get. He. He will be able to live the. The day like Hank lived.

[Pat Beverly]

That's my bro. Okay, like, for like. You guys have no idea. You guys probably having an idea.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we have an idea. Stole him from us.

[Hank]

He's the man. He's the best.

[Pat Beverly]

He's actually phenomenal. A phenomenal person first. A phenomenal husband. Second.

[Big Cat]

He's insanely talented.

[Pat Beverly]

I've been around a ton of guys where it's either. Either or. They're really good and they're shitty. Husband. It's very rare that you get both. Phenomenal guy in both of those aspects. Talent wise. It's something that gives me Jim Carrey vibes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He can do anything.

[Big Cat]

Do you know what it is?

[Pat Beverly]

Anything.

[Big Cat]

It's. It's also how effortless it is.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. Not forced.

[Big Cat]

Cuz like I feel like I have to, like, work really hard to be entertaining. He feels like he could. You could throw him. I always said this about Ron too. You can throw him in any situation, any setting, any person.

[Pat Beverly]

I agree.

[Big Cat]

And he'll have a conversation that you want to listen to.

[Pat Beverly]

President of the United States suited up.

[Big Cat]

Wrong.

[Pat Beverly]

Going. Be there. Yeah. Black dude in the hood. Wrong. Go be there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

A Mexican don't even know how to speak English. Yep. Come on. Go be there. There. It's wild.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy.

[Pat Beverly]

It's. Put him on football, he gonna be there. Put him on basketball, he gonna be there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Son of a boy. Dad on couch with his legs crossed. He gonna be there. Pat Bell with wrong. Yeah. We talking about. Yeah. Gangster. And who better, white guys or black guys? Wrong will be there. He's absolutely phenomenal.

[Big Cat]

He'll be on that parade.

[Hank]

What was the answer to that? Who's better, white guys or black guys?

[Big Cat]

Remember Cooper flag Jokic.

[Pat Beverly]

I think. I think that's a difference. European is very different. Why European?

[Hank]

You're white.

[Pat Beverly]

I know. But European outranks both white and black. A woman who gets a European, she thinks she's one.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, you get a last name with an itch or some Italian name. Yeah. I think that woman for sure thinks she won 100.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. They are different. I mean, that. That whole region with Luca yokis.

[Pat Beverly]

Mind you, it's. It's. It's. I don't know, seven, eight countries. Imagine if it was just Yugoslavia.

[Big Cat]

It was.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They would be dominating everything.

[Pat Beverly]

Be people who won't make the team.

[Big Cat]

I know.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah. Who like super talented.

[Hank]

That's why they subdivided.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Was they had too much talent.

[Big Cat]

They were bad for basketball.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like Yukon women's hoop to break it up.

[Pat Beverly]

Crazy smoke.

[Big Cat]

All right, Pat. Everyone go subscribe to the Pat Bev pod, please. He's the best. Good luck for rest this season. Maybe. Hopefully we'll see you back in the NBA at some point.

[Pat Beverly]

We'll see.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right. Thanks, Pat.

[Pat Beverly]

Love guy.

[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

We got pardon your take Henry.

[Memes]

Yeah we do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah we do.

[Memes]

Yeah we do. Aaron Rodgers is dismantling the jets organization in retaliation against the COVID vaccine. This is all Aaron Rodgers plan to get back at Big Farmer by team from the ground up sticking to the man and destroying the franchise.

[Hank]

Yeah, I like yeah Woody Johnson he, he did that, the one shot thing. Aaron Rodgers gets traded to them tanks their value.

[Big Cat]

I got a question for you guys. Did you know that there's like boosters for Covid?

[Hank]

I did know that.

[Big Cat]

I didn't stop it.

[Hank]

Yeah, you knew that.

[Big Cat]

I. I got one shot four years ago and that's it.

[Hank]

You didn't know that they. I knew at least shots every like six months.

[Memes]

The whole Stephen Chase.

[Big Cat]

I knew Stephen, say, had shots. I thought there was like a new. I didn't know it was like the flu shot now. I thought it was like a new. Like a whole new brand. I didn't know it was like seasonal boosters. Yeah.

[Hank]

I mean, every.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[Hank]

Travis Kelsey, John Legend, they're talking about getting the new.

[Big Cat]

I thought that was a whole new shot.

[Hank]

Well, yeah, it kind of.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, I know, but I. I didn't realize that like a flu. Like you get the flu shot and then you get the COVID Booster.

[Hank]

Yeah, the booster. I've only got one mincy boost.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I didn't. Have you guys got any boosters?

[Hank]

No, I got one, I think six months after. After the first one came out, I got one.

[Memes]

Because you had to get the card to like, live.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I got that one. The Johnson Johnson one was like the weakest one. It was the one shot. There was no follow up. That was like four years ago. I didn't know that people were doing every single, like season. They were like.

[Hank]

I think, I think old people.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I think it's good for old.

[Big Cat]

That makes. And Stephen Chase.

[Hank]

And Stephen Chase.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm also wondering, the person who does these. Pardon your takes is memes. I'm wondering if they're all. All going to be Jets.

[Big Cat]

Part of your taste. Oh, that would be a nice wrinkle.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be.

[Hank]

Wait, means it. Was that your idea that Aaron Rodgers tanked the jets because he hates Woody Johnson?

[Max]

No, somebody wrote that in.

[Hank]

Okay. What are you. What are your thoughts about that?

[Max]

It's believable.

[Hank]

It is.

[Max]

I'm dead.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I guess I'm. I'm just an idiot because I thought. I didn't realize boosters. I don't know what I thought. I thought it was just a whole new brand new vaccine, but I guess that makes no sense. Yeah, I'm done.

[Hank]

If you were to ask Aaron Rodgers if he tanked the jets because of Woody Johnson, what do you think his answer would be?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

I think so.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Memes]

Pardon your take, but if your team's biggest rival doesn't consider you to be their biggest rival, you are little brother.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Example. If you ask a Michigan State fan who the biggest rival is in Michigan. No question. If you ask anyone in Michigan, they're going to unequivocally respond that OSU is enemy number one. This exists in all sports everywhere. Sixers Fant. The Celtics. Celtics have a historical rivalry with the Lakers. Verbal meme. Mad Men. I don't think about you at all.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, this is all facts.

[Hank]

And it sucks being that little brother.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, have you tweeted about the Sixers at all today?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So you do think.

[PFT Commenter]

So you do think about it.

[Hank]

What's. Because Hank hosted sports podcast, so it's his job sometimes reading the question.

[Memes]

Dude, that was. Those weren't my words. I was quoting the person.

[Big Cat]

That's big time little brother energy you're giving off Max.

[PFT Commenter]

That's fair.

[Memes]

I. I was quoting. I was reading the question. That was. That was not me saying that.

[Big Cat]

Who's the. Who's the saddest?

[Memes]

I think about you guys all the time and laugh. Like when I. When I need to get a smile on my face or when I need to just, you know, get a quick boost of serotonin. Just think about the Sixers.

[Hank]

The saddest little brother.

[Big Cat]

NC State. That sucks.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Cuz you got Duke and Unc just duking it out and they're like, hey, we don't like in Unc. We don't like Duke.

[Memes]

Wake Forest is kind of in that spot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But I don't think that they.

[Big Cat]

They're even farther away.

[Hank]

They wouldn't consider themselves to be little brother to anybody.

[Memes]

Tobacco Road, though.

[Big Cat]

Michigan State's a high one. One. I would.

[Hank]

I would agree with that. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Michigan State's a big one.

[Memes]

Commanders.

[Big Cat]

Anyone?

[Hank]

Commanders. Dallas.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, anyone who. Anyone who thinks they're a rival with Notre Dame. Like, Notre Dame has a million rivals.

[Hank]

Purdue probably be like, yeah, Notre Dame's a big rival.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like the only ones I really think for Notre Dame is like usc and I mean, they don't play it anymore. But Michigan, Notre Dame was.

[Memes]

I feel like Tennessee has a bunch that they don't have anyone.

[Big Cat]

Well, Tennessee has Alabama. Alabama. That's a little brother move.

[Hank]

Tennessee.

[Memes]

I feel like there's a issue with Tennessee where no one says Tennessee is their main rival, but they have like three.

[Hank]

I think Kentucky would probably say that. Tennessee's biggest rival, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then Tennessee, little. Little brothers. Vanderbilt, but yeah, that's a good one. Tennessee, Alabama. And Alabama's like, no, it's Auburn and it's kind of lsu too.

[Hank]

I. I would say the Mets are probably up there too.

[Big Cat]

For who?

[Hank]

Yankees?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, did you say Kentucky and Tennessee?

[Hank]

I think that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Kentucky has Louis. Yeah, Meme said.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Louisville. That's their big rival.

[Hank]

What about football, though, also? Oh, you think that they Care more about.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Even though they're not in conference.

[Big Cat]

Definitely. They play every year. Yeah.

[Memes]

Little. Little slander on a friend of the show here.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Memes]

But I'm meme sends questions. I'll read them.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Max]

It's a hot one.

[Memes]

When J.J. watt retired, people were having discussions about him being up first out hall of Famer, which is absolute nonsense.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

He's not even on the top 20 for career sacks. Meanwhile.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Memes]

Jared Allen is number 12 on that list and has still not gotten in. I'm honestly not sure if wat should ever be a Hall of Famer. Just thought someone awareness to this issue.

[Hank]

Okay. So I love, I love the take.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Listen, it's a fair like this is part in your take. You bring the spiciest takes.

[Hank]

I would say that. J.J. watts, how many defensive player of the year awards does he have?

[Big Cat]

He won two in three and four years.

[Hank]

Three and four years. And he probably should have had an MVP somewhere in there.

[Big Cat]

So J.J. watt from 2012 to 2014 was probably the best one of, if not the best defensive players. Probably. Lawrence Taylor is obviously number one.

[Memes]

But I mean Aaron Foster was the best offensive player for a few years stretched.

[Hank]

He should be in the hall of Fame too. I agree, Hank.

[Big Cat]

So he had 20 and a half sacks, 10 and a half sacks, 20 and a half sacks, 17 and a half sacks in those four years. That's an insane insane clip. 67 and a half sacks or 68 sacks in four years. This guy's an idiot.

[Hank]

And he, he was dominant and he was scoring offensive touchdowns too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

J.J. white, if you look at the other guys that are eligible for the hall of Fame, I will give you Jared Allen probably should be in the Hall.

[Big Cat]

He should. But I think the hall of Fame, obviously you can go off career, but there's like. I mean it's the Terrell Davis thing. Like he wasn't. His career wasn't super long. But the three or four year stretch where he was just so much better than everyone else. Jared Allen, he did not win a defensive player of the year. So you could never say he was by far the best defender. I do think Jared Allen should be in the hall of Fame. But his. He did have 22 sacks in 2011. But yeah, I mean that he had a nice four year stretch as well. Five year stretch. Jared Allen should be in the hall of Fame.

[Pat Beverly]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That doesn't mean J.J. watt shouldn't be. Yeah.

[Hank]

So J.J. watt was so dominant in the like a relatively short career. It's not like he only played a Couple years and like burned out. He had a good career, but he was also so good in that short time period that he ended up putting up all time numbers in a lot of categories.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And he was like double teamed constantly.

[Big Cat]

He was injured for four of his 12 years, so he pretty much played eight years. Jared Allen played 12 years. He was injured. He played 16, like more than 14 games. Pretty much every single year that he was in the NFL. So he played more games. I think he got to go by games as well. 187 to 151. I don't know. Now I got to crunch number sacks.

[Hank]

Per game because if J.J. watt get him a first ballot hall of Famer, then I honestly would have no idea who a first ballot hall of Famer would be.

[Big Cat]

And we, we all agree that Jared Allen should be in the hall of Fame. So don't take it away from JJ just because you want Jared Allen in. All right, I'm doing the stats real quick. You ready for this?

[Hank]

Sacks per game?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm doing it. J.J. watt. Remember this number? Wait, is that right? No. Remember this number? I can't do math.

[Hank]

Aaron Foster would be in the hall of Fame if he wasn't an atheist. I want to say that for the.

[Big Cat]

Record, it's 0.75 sacks per game.

[Memes]

Science book.

[Hank]

Yeah, the science book that made him retire.

[Big Cat]

0.75 sacks per game for J.J. watt.

[Hank]

I'm not saying that he's being discriminated. I'm saying that he made a bad move by being like, hey guys, I'm an atheist.

[Big Cat]

0.72 sacks per game for Jared Allen. Jared Allen was really, really good.

[Hank]

So J.J. watt had 0.03 more sacks per game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, got it. I'm happy we did that number.

[Hank]

Also, not to get too granular with it, but he played on some bad Texans teams. He did that weren't exactly having to pin their ears back and rush the passer the second half. A lot of games.

[Big Cat]

Why don't we just flip this into a positive? We'll just become a Jared Allen should be in the hall of Fame podcast. Yeah, he should. I had. He also. Also, I made one of the least sold shirts I've ever made in my entire barstool career. I made a shirt that she said wine them dynam 69. And when we signed, I thought he was the finishing piece for the Bears second year. Trespan. He's going to do this. Holy. He's going to be awesome. Also, people didn't really want to wear a shirt that Said windham. Don, I'm 69.

[Hank]

The fact that he bounced around so much is not good for his hall of Fame. Casey either.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, I think obviously Vikings is the first jersey you come up with, but Chiefs, Vikings. And then at the end of his career.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Memes]

All right. While most people watch my Cowboys get dismantled like a cheap tent on Monday Night Football, all I can think about is how our beloved owner, Mr. Jerry Jones, actively attempted to murder multiple people with a piece of sheet metal under section 15.01 of the Texas penal code.

[Big Cat]

I like this.

[Memes]

Attempted murder carries a character charge of up to 10 years in prison. It's time we stop letting the elites off the hook and hold them accountable for their actions. If you guys could get Mike Portnoy Esq. To begin proceedings, that would be greatly appreciated.

[Hank]

Class action.

[Memes]

I mean, he got Mike Tyson, who couldn't even, like, stand up, illegally commissioned.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

In Texas. Like, this guy's untouchable.

[Hank]

He's tried to kill multiple people.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He took the top off in mid November. He could kill. Somebody's going to go to prison.

[Big Cat]

No. Yeah. He would not go to prison.

[Hank]

He would.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Hank]

Or he would build his own prison like Pablo Escobar and be like, just send me here.

[Pat Beverly]

It would just.

[Big Cat]

Huge. Yeah. Live in the stadium.

[Hank]

Yeah. That is. That is the dream, though. To get, like, barely injured by a falling piece of metal in Jerry Jones Stadium. Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

You would scratch.

[Hank]

Never see me again. I would be a billionaire. It'd be awesome.

[Big Cat]

Or you just get Cowboys tickets. That would suck.

[Hank]

Yeah, no, that'd be. That'd be. Then I assume again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Did you guys see the. The Paul Skins giveaway? There's a. There's giving away a card, and if you get. It's a rookie Paul Skeen's card. And if you get it, you get 30 years of Pirates season tickets. Two seats behind home plate.

[Hank]

Okay. It's interesting. Giveaway.

[Big Cat]

You guys in?

[Hank]

It seems like a burden.

[Big Cat]

It's a lot of years. It's a lot of years for Pirate season tickets.

[Memes]

Can you resell them?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. I would hope so. Here's what you get. You get two Pirate season tickets behind home plate for the next 30 years. Meet and greet with Paul Skeens. Two Paul Skeens autographed jerseys. Softball game for 30 at PNC Park. That's awesome. That is. That is the sickest. Wait, someone did it. Someone got it.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I think this. The Pirates are looking for whoever pulls this card, so.

[Big Cat]

Oh, to give it oh they're trying.

[PFT Commenter]

To buy it like the card is already that's the pirates out but the pirates are trying to get that so.

[Big Cat]

The pirates trying to get that card so they can sell it in like four years so they can pay Paul.

[Max]

Schemes yeah and Libby Dunn also offered they could watch a game in the suite with her that's one of the in a box Yep in the box.

[Hank]

Libby Dunn offered admittance to her box.

[Big Cat]

I didn't say it okay good show boys. Good show. Let's do numbers 3, 11 memes you're never going to get it memes 36, 567799 poke 33 Jack 21 everyone go.

[Max]

I think Jack's at 33 what was your pick? Memes 56 you've never got it Nope.

[Big Cat]

What was your pick? Pft 77 you also have never got it oh that's what yeah memes pick last time trailing them 95. 95 love you guys SA.