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Pardon My Take
Playoff Baseball, CFB With Brandon Walker, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin, Jets And Bengals Are A Disaster + Guys On Chicks
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PFT Commenter
Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. Folks, it's the foreplay guys.
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Brandon Walker
Let's talk Truly Unruly.
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Lane Kiffin
When you spend every day following the.
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Brandon Walker
Countless laws of golf like us, it's.
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PFT Commenter
Refreshing to get a little unruly.
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Lane Kiffin
Whether that means using the old hand wedge to escape the bunker or just.
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Brandon Walker
Cracking open a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules, few things feel better. Truly Unruly is the first high alk.
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PFT Commenter
Seltzer that actually tastes good.
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Lane Kiffin
It's hard hitting but still light and.
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Brandon Walker
Refreshing, making it perfect for everything from.
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Lane Kiffin
The front nine to the clubhouse.
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Brandon Walker
Find it near you at trulyhardselter.com Locations. That's trulyhardselter.com Locations Hard Seltzer Beverage Co. Boston, MA Please drink responsibly.
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PFT Commenter
On today's part of my take presented by DraftKings. The Crown is yours. We have a twofer for the people. We have the finest of Mississippi. We have Brandon Walker in studio talking some college ball narrative Talk great time with Brandon, our number one college football expert. We also have Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin on the show. So we're talking a lot of college football. We're going to talk some playoff baseball. Monday Night Football was a double. Disappointing games, but the Broncos look very good. The jets we do a little status check with memes on the jets. We have Hot Seat, Cool Throne, we got guys on chicks. A packed Wednesday show for you and it's all brought to you by our friends at game time. The NFL is back. Tailgates pack stands the buzz before kickoff, but getting in a nightmare cues price jumps. Getting logged out mid click. All you want is to be there. Beer in hand, losing your voice with the crowd. The GameTime app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlock amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use. The Game Time guarantee means you can Trust you'll get 100 authentic tickets on time and at the best price. Plus fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. We're looking at tickets. Hank, what do you got for this weekend?
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Hank
Looking at Patriots Bills. Some are saying it's a passing of the torch game. You can get into High mark Stadium for $228.
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PFT Commenter
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Dan
I was gonna say it's time to wake up Billy Joe Armstrong. Yes, you're. You're also correct. Ter was awesome today. Incredible. He'd have 14 strikeouts.
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PFT Commenter
14 strike. It was Terry Scuba was. Was a horse. Garrett Crochet was a horse. Blake Snell was a horse. First time I think he's ever had six. Six innings. What are you doing? What are you doing there, Hank? What are you doing?
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Hank
Southpaw South Paul day.
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Miny
The.
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PFT Commenter
The Horses came to play today. We had the opening round of the wild card in playoff baseball, which underrated day. We were saying it. The boys were chopping it up before we were recording. We're doing this on Zoom right now. We're back in studio for the rest of the show with Brand and Lane Kiffin. We were saying this is kind of underrated. This sneaky, great, great day in the sports calendar year where you're like, oh, shit, we get four baseball games all day and we just like noon hits. And you're like, holy shit, it's playoff baseball time.
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Dan
It's a really good day. But I think maybe the all time great day talk might be influenced by the fact that you guys have three teams in the playoffs that you're all super excited about.
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PFT Commenter
That's fair. That's totally fair. It was mostly Matt. Max loves baseball. Max, a baseball guy, he is through and through. And he was saying that he loves baseball. He was tuned into every game. He's a seam head. That's facts, Max. Right.
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Max
Yeah, I know.
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PFT Commenter
I.
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Max
Meaningful sports that are. That mean this much during the day. The work day don't come around often.
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PFT Commenter
That's true.
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Max
So it's like. That's all I was saying is that there's only a few days in the calendar year.
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PFT Commenter
Well, I said meaningful, meaningful sports this much during the day don't come around that often.
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Dan
I mean, you're right. Like have it. Having good, meaningful sports on during a meaningful day is extra meaningful.
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PFT Commenter
Right. Big time.
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Max
And it's meaningful to me.
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Miny
Right.
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Max
And that's really what matters.
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PFT Commenter
And it's.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
It means a lot to you. But yeah. Let's. Let's break down. What do you got, Hank?
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Hank
I just can't get over. Ever since Zach has joined the these Zoom calls with the nice camera. Looking at Zach and then looking at Max, looking like he's doing, like, sales.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Dan
It's just.
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Hank
It's tough to get over Zach. It's a wild difference.
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PFT Commenter
Zach's camera, like, I don't want to. I don't want to take this in a weird direction, but it does look like we're, like, about to enter a porn with Zach. You know, like those, like, they're like, oh, shit, it's the 8 4K girl with the POV glasses. Holy shit. You can feel like you're getting fucked. That's what I feel like Zach's about to do to us. No porn over here. Okay. All right. Well, it is.
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Dan
I also like how his camera is, like, off center just a little bit that he's looking into. It's kind of cool. It's like we're all looking at the screen, at each other, and Zach's like, yeah, chilling off to the side. Like, you're looking at me, but I might not be looking at you.
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Miny
Yeah, I can fix that.
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PFT Commenter
No, no, the eye contact a little bit. No, it looks great. All right, let's break down the games. Game one, Terek Scubal, incredible performance. 14 strikeouts. Tigers gotten a little bit of trouble there in the ninth with Javi Baez having an error. Look, like the Guardians, like, the Guardians, at least the way they finished the season, have some team of destiny type of vibes. And when that happened, it was like, oh, boy, they're about to waste Tarek Skubal's 14 strikeout performance. A total. Like, he just shoved in every definition because he's had some starts. I think it was, what, a week ago where he lost to the Guardians. So this was like, yeah, I am the boss. I am the man. I'll come into Cleveland. I'll do this. And they almost blew it, but they were saved in the end. And the. The Tigers, like, this is the beauty of October. They finished the season so bad, and it's now they're up one and it's a new season for them.
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Dan
Yeah, it was a week ago. I think he hit somebody in the face.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, then he.
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Dan
Yeah, then he came back and pitched almost as many pitches as he's pitched this year in a game. Was still hitting the high velocity at the end. And if you beat him, you can't give up, like, rinky dink runs. You can't. You can't let the Tigers luck into any runs out there because you're not going to get it back against Google.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Dan
So, like, the errors in the outfield, careless stuff. But I do, I do see the guardians being one team that they could up just by playing like weird small ball. Yeah, I could see them doing that. But you're gonna have to do a lot of it against Scuba. And they didn't have, they didn't have enough.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, he was absolutely sensational. And I just. There's something about him, like the way he yells on the mound. His, his, his size. He's just so. He's a throwback ace in every respect.
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Hank
He also went and visited that guy in the hospital too.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, he did.
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Hank
Ultimate respect.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah. Scubal's the man. He's a great dude and he's the man. And he absolutely shoved today. Game two, I was at game two. I was at Wrigley. It was electric. Very nerve wracking because the Cubs look like they didn't have much of an offense. And then we had back to back home runs. And Craig Counsel, who has been maligned at times in his stay in Chicago, did a perfect job with the bullpen. And the bullpen had, I think it was four and a third or four and two thirds perfect innings to close the game. So Boyd started, had, you know, like a blooper double and then a hard hit double to give up a run, stranded a guy on third in the second, which was huge. And. And then Palencia, who, you know, was the closer, got injured, came back, came in in the fifth and was lights out for five outs and was just like electric. And the crowd was. It was awesome. Because the Cubs haven't won a playoff game since 2017, so it'd been a long time. They hadn't had a playoff game at Wrigley with fans since then as well.
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Dan
Tell me about the mood in the stadium for the back to back jacks, dude. Because back to back playoff home runs, especially in a, in a situation like that, it just, it seems like the best place to be on earth.
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PFT Commenter
It was so electric and for, I mean, say his home run was absolutely pissed on. It was out so fast. I also saw afterwards that ESPN muted the crowd like a. As he was rounding the bases, which is an absolutely insane thing to do for playoff baseball. The crowds in playoff baseball are so much fun. And it was so loud at Wrigley. And then Kelly's home run, which I didn't think was gonna go out, it just kind of kept on going. It was like the opposite of say is where it just like was like, oh shit, is this gonna go out? Oh shit, is this gonna go out? Oh shit. It just went out and then the roof came off and it was just like, everyone was just absolute euphoria at Wrigley and it was so much fun.
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Dan
Was it high five strangers?
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PFT Commenter
Oh, dude, it was high five strangers. We had, so, we had, we had some. So I, I went with my friend Dave. Titus and Eddie came with me. I brought them. And there was four stoolies in front of us who like, they heard me and Eddie talking or me and Titus talking. I was sitting next to Titus maybe in like the second inning and they turned around and they're just like, oh, it's you guys. They became instant friends. High fiving, just going crazy, high fiving everyone in front, high fiving everyone in back. And then not to. I, I love PCA because he's the best. But I did say after the back to back home runs, I was like, if I could bet a million dollars right now on PCA striking out swinging, I would do it. And he did because he was feeling like the mood was just, he wanted to launch one so bad. So bad.
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Dan
Yeah, I, I, I love that feeling. When you're high fiving strangers at a sporting event. That's how guys make new friends. Yeah, it's just like, it's, it's the best feeling in the world. You turn around, there's a hand in the air, high five. Hand in the air, high five. You spill a drink on yourself, doesn't matter. The mood seemed awesome for that. What about the, the deep shot best.
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Hank
Friends you'll never meet see again in your life.
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Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
I mean we took, we, we literally still best friends. My, my, my computer is making noise there. We literally took a picture after the game, like all of us. It was like, this is awesome. We all got into a group picture. It's like that was a fucking great day. It was just a beautiful, beautiful, like there was not a cloud in the sky. Everyone was in a great mood. It was awesome.
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Dan
Yeah, that's a, that's how dudes make friends. Girls like chat with each other at workout classes and get each other's phone number. Guys just high five another drunk dude and then become best friends for like two and a half hours. Yeah, it's like a one day stand. It's, it's a great feeling. What about the pca? The, the catch at the warning track? Was that the ninth inning? Yeah, because that, when that, when that ball got hit, I thought, oh, here we go.
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PFT Commenter
I actually wasn't that worried about it. I think I have a pretty good sense of like, because you know, the crowd will like, if there's a hard hit ball, like Michael Bush hit one in the first inning where everyone like went crazy. I was like, there's no way that's out. I have a pretty good sense. So I was just like, just catch it. Just catch it. And I was just more worried anything that went towards Seiya because he's playing right now and he's. He's not the best. He's a serviceable outfielder, but he also can things up. And so like, there was one that was. I think, I can't remember. It's maybe the sixth inning where it was in between them and SEO wanted it and PCA was like, no, it's mine. And like called him off. Also, Dansby Swanson's awesome at defense. That's something that just doesn't like. It's such an underrated thing. Because you, the. I. I forgot. Like, playoff baseball, you basically spend every inning, every. If you're a home team, every top of the inning. You're just so scared because you're like, only bad things can happen right now. And then when you get to the bottom, you're like, all right, I can breathe a little. Like, let's just hope we can string together a couple runs. You know what I mean? So it's that up and down constantly that goes back and forth where you're just like, this is like if a guy, if a runner gets on in playoff baseball, you're like, this is. This is over. We're. We're so.
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Miny
Yeah, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And also, I'll give you a little analytics. I don't know if you can bet this on the DraftKings sportsbook. Maybe we can. Maybe we can figure out a way to get this listed. Mark Titus and I have gone to two Cubs playoff games together in our lives. Both wins, both games. The Cubs hit back to back home runs and I'm taking them tomorrow.
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Dan
Okay.
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PFT Commenter
So I don't know if you can bet it back to back home runs again. If we go three for three. That would be insane.
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Dan
I don't know that that should be a prop. Back to back.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So it was the. It was the game one of the NLCS in 2016 when Miguel Montero and I think it was Dexter Fowler right after we were on the bleachers and then today. So I don't know, maybe bet it. I. I don't know how you can bet it, but it was. It was an awesome day. It was very, very fun. I was very, like. It was just. It was just a great Day. It was like one of those like perfect days. You're like, this was so much fun and had a great time. And it's also the shout out to pitch clock. Like I, I had a very hard. I went from Cubs game high fiving like euphoria directly into my son's 6 year old soccer practice. Like sitting there watching kids like fall over the ball and stuff. And I was like, you know what? This is life now. But shout out to pitch clock because I made it to a soccer practice with plenty of time.
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Dan
You're chilling on the sidelines. They don't know that the Cubs just want a playoff game.
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PFT Commenter
I was just like, I was like, that was really fun. And now I'm here and you know, and, and like, basically like making sure my daughter doesn't kill herself on the playground. All right, the third game, another hoss crochet. Hank. Unbelievable. He had, what do you have, 14 straight outs.
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Hank
Yeah, he was. Had the ball on a string. It's beautiful, beautiful thing to watch.
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PFT Commenter
So were you nervous at all in this game because it was what, one, one solo home run for the Yankees and then the, the Red Sox actually played like good playoff baseball, manufacturing some runs.
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Hank
Yeah. So Guard, this is, this is, this is Pink Hat Henry, or newcomer Henry. I was always under the impression that Aaron Judge had an absolute cannon. And then so Guard ran out a single into a double and everyone was like, yeah, they knew, like, Judge's arm is a noodle arm now and he can't throw and like made him, you know, wouldn't look stupid.
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PFT Commenter
He got hurt.
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Hank
That's news to me. I guess that's.
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Miny
Yeah, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So. And then manufactured runs and the, the ninth inning was interesting because Chapman came in in the eighth for one out. And then back in the ninth and he loaded the bases with no outs and the Yankees didn't score any runs. The weirdest part was, did you hear the broadcast being like, he's not sweating yet.
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Dan
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
I don't know what that was all about. That was so like, usually he's sweating a lot and he hasn't sweat. He's not sweating yet. And then he loaded the bases and he, they're like, look, he's sweating now. And then he just mowed everyone down.
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Dan
By the way, the entire broadcast. The audio for that broadcast, I don't know what was going on where it sounded like there was a hand grenade going off every time there was an out. Did you guys hear that?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, because I heard way people saying.
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Dan
Oh, I thought that was just on my tv. It was. It was unlistable. I had to turn the sound almost all the way down for the entire game. I don't know what they had. If they had a mic on first base. If they. If the crowd was just redlining. I don't know what it was. But ESPN's got to figure that out.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Stop mutings crowd noise and figure out the hand grenade situation. Pretty terrible.
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Dan
But yeah, cabin went out there, pissed down his leg immediately and then. And then just settled in. But I saw a stat that the Yankees are the first team in postseason history to load the bases with nobody out in the bottom of the ninth, but not score a run and lose the game.
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PFT Commenter
Jesus.
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Dan
Pretty crazy.
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PFT Commenter
Jesus did have a big.
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Hank
Red Sox fans.
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Miny
Yeah, he did.
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Dan
Yeah, he ripped that one nicely up the middle.
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PFT Commenter
He had a huge single reporter.
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Hank
PMT field reporter. Gaz was there. He said it was Fenway South. So that was. That was good to hear. A lot of Sox fans.
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Miny
Oh, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Wait, what was your question? Pft. Panic button.
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Dan
I was just wondering, like, what the. What is the panic meter for a Yankees fan right now?
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PFT Commenter
I mean, the three game series thing is crazy.
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Miny
It.
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PFT Commenter
It really is like the. Cause I'm sitting here, you know, The Cubs are up 1 0, and I'm like, oh, this is great. Like, obviously you still. There's two more games, but it's just being down.01 and having an elimination game like that is. It's crazy. So the panic button buttons got to be way out. And I think I. I just saw like, my Twitter explode with just people being like, Aaron Boone's the dumbest person ever. I was like, oh, it's October. That was literally the turning of the.
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Dan
Clocks because I saw that extend. Boone was trending again. And I agree, we've always said that about Aaron. But listen, you got to give the man some time to implement his systems. You got to have a steady hand guiding the New York Yankees through a tumultuous time in baseball. Aaron Boone's the guy. Keep him around.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So my. My last question about this game was, did we. Did we find a hack on live betting? Chapman with the sweating thing? Because the announcers called it out and they were actually correct that he did start to sweat and then he started to pitch.
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Dan
Well, is there a chance that maybe after he pitched in the eighth inning, he used a towel?
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PFT Commenter
Maybe. I don't know. But he need. The guy needs sweat on him to perform. He is a sweaty guy. They are right about that. But I didn't. Like, I wasn't Watching close enough to be like, oh, he doesn't have any sweat on him.
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Dan
Yeah, that doesn't. That doesn't really hold up. I. I don't know. I don't know. It's a very weird thing for the announcers to zero in on. I was wondering why they're making a big deal out of it, but. Yeah, if he doesn't sweat. Yeah, I'll load up on him.
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Miny
Yeah. All right.
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PFT Commenter
The last game, which is still in the seventh inning, but we're calling it early. The Dodgers are so fucking unf. They're so good. They're like. Just to even start this game with Shohei hitting a leadoff home run, it's like. Oh, like that might be the fastest that a team's ever been eliminated.
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Dan
He smacked the. Out of that ball, too. That ball was gone.
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PFT Commenter
And then he hit another one. And then TE Oscar Hernandez hit two, and it's just like. And then Freddie Freeman hit a double. It's just. They just. The waves of Dodger hitters are just insane. And now the Reds obviously are not. You know, it's a little bit of a mismatch. A great story that the Reds are in the playoffs, but the Dodgers look. And then Blake Snell, I think it was his first time. I got to try to find that stat. I think it was his first time going into the sixth in a playoff game. And he was electric as well. So it's like if he starts pitching like an absolute horse. Yeah, he's probably too skinny to be a hoss. For the first time. Jeff Passon said, for the first time in his career, Blake Snell was throwing a six inning, six innings in a postseason game. And they've been phenomenal. One hit, one walk, nine strikeouts, only 70 pitches. He gave up a run in the seventh, but yeah, he was lights out.
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Dan
Yeah, I agree. I don't think that he's a host, though.
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PFT Commenter
He's a.
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Dan
He's too small.
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PFT Commenter
He's a pony.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
All right.
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Miny
Any.
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PFT Commenter
Any back Jackson.
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Dan
That game was. Was awesome, too. Rob Lowe. Shout out. Rob Lowe in the crowd tonight.
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Miny
Yep.
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Dan
They showed him. Then they showed Bateman. They started running out of celebrities. There were so many home runs.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Dan
I did not know. I did not know this because somebody sent it to me. Did you that Rob Lowe is a. He grew up a die hard Cincinnati Reds fan.
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PFT Commenter
Is he from Ohio? Yeah, I think I did.
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Dan
So he's like.
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PFT Commenter
I think I did know that.
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Miny
So he.
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Dan
He was like. He was like taunting the Reds after the back to back home runs. Despite the fact. You know what I'm going to give Rob Lowe a pass on.
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PFT Commenter
Did he have his MLB hat on?
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Dan
He did not. He was wearing a normal hat. I photoshopped the Major League Baseball umpires logo onto it though.
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PFT Commenter
Nice.
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Dan
So. So pretty much. But yeah, if I was Rob Low in that situation, it's like if you're beating the shit out of the Reds, the team that you love growing up, I probably wouldn't be like demanding the camera put me on.
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PFT Commenter
No, I mean the Reds are just, it's a nice story. We'll see. Hey listen, game two, you never know what's going to happen. Cause that is the, the, the beauty. Going back to the three game format. The Reds win, all the pressure's back on the Dodgers. So you never know. Yeah, like all these things.
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Dan
I got a question for you.
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PFT Commenter
Max doesn't think so. Max is shaking his head.
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Max
Well, there's also like, I think there's a stat stat that the team that WINS the game one of the wild card series goes on to win 92% of the time.
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Dan
Oh, that's pretty significant probably because they're the better team and also they're at home and they're up one nothing.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, well, it's not always the home.
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Dan
Team and well, the Red and the Reds suck, Meme. So I got a question for you regarding the Reds. Are you actively rooting against the Reds right now?
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Memes
Yeah, this is a nice hate watch for me. They got to be the sacrificial lamb.
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PFT Commenter
Were you happy that the jets official Twitter account jinx the Yankees.
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Memes
With the good luck?
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Dan
Yeah, yeah, that, that's also a nice hate watch.
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Memes
I'm hate watching the entire playoffs.
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Dan
Hank, you seem skeptical when Meme said that he was, he was rooting against the Reds.
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PFT Commenter
The Reds stole the Mets.
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Hank
But the Mets could have. The Mets stole their own spot. They played themselves.
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PFT Commenter
So true. Also true.
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Hank
Like it's not like the Reds beat the Mets in a, in a season ending series, but it does have to.
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Max
Feel a little bit better watching the Dodgers just be insane and being like the Mets would have, wouldn't have won this series.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Max
All in la.
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Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
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Max
Went on the road against anybody this year. There's no way they were winning this series in la.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Memes
We'll never know though.
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PFT Commenter
You never know. Guess we'll never know. I, I like, I, I, I think Meme should get to hate watch whatever he wants. Let him hate watch the out of these playoffs.
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Miny
No.
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Max
Yeah, I'm backing, I'm defending him. I'm like this is. This is a good watch. This is a good watch.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Dan
On something and anything.
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Hank
You guys are scared of the hate watch.
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Miny
What?
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PFT Commenter
We're scared of the hate watch.
- [23:19]
Miny
What's that?
- [23:19]
Hank
Scared to be on the. The memes is bad side of a.
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PFT Commenter
Hate watch, I think.
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Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
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Max
We're all on the hate watch.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Max
You're just lucky he's playing the Yankees. Both the Red Sox and the Yankees.
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PFT Commenter
You're next up, buddy. Like I'm getting. I'm the only one who's getting hate watched right now. But your guys are both going to be up. He's hate watching. He's rooting for the pods.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Memes
But I'm also rooting for Chicago. Live in Chicago.
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PFT Commenter
But.
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Max
No, you're not.
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PFT Commenter
You're rooting for the p. What are you talking. You want. You want everyone.
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Brandon Walker
You want.
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Hank
You want everyone in the office to be happy. You want everyone in the office to be like happy subs.
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PFT Commenter
That's a great thing about sports. Hate watch the out of these playoffs.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Dan
If you're miserable, you want everybody else around you to be just as miserable as you are.
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PFT Commenter
So I'm gonna be honest.
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Memes
Everyone was rooting for the guardians in the cave. I wanted them to lose.
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PFT Commenter
So. So memes. What. What's your. What's your perfect World Series then? Would it be like brewers versus Blue Jays?
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Memes
Mariners. I'm running for the Mariners.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Miny
Yep.
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Memes
Seattle. Good sports sound.
- [24:28]
Miny
Okay.
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Memes
I'll go Cubs or Brewers.
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Miny
Okay.
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Dan
You don't mean that.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
You don't mean that. I know he means Bruce. That was just an omission. It's fine.
- [24:41]
Hank
Would be. That's the ultimate hate watch.
- [24:45]
Miny
It is.
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PFT Commenter
It is. I. I respect your hate watch. All right. Two things before we get Kick it to ourselves. Like I said, we have Brandon Walker and Lane Kiffin. 1. Is it Dylan Gabriel time?
- [24:56]
Dan
Yes.
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PFT Commenter
I think it is.
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Miny
Right?
- [24:58]
Dan
It's going to be.
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Miny
Yeah.
- [24:59]
PFT Commenter
It's about to be.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Dan
So it's sad, but it's time.
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PFT Commenter
Do you think it might be a mistake to do the Dylan Gabriel time when they have to fly to Europe and play against a Brian Flores defense?
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Dan
Brian Flores is very happy that this is happening. He's going to blitz the fuck out of him. That traditionally works well in England. And it's going to be. It's going to be a tough start for him. But the good news is the Vikings don't really have a great answer at quarterback right now. And the Browns defense is awesome, too.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Dan
So it's going to be. I think it's going to be a winnable game for him. I don't think that either team is going to blow the other one out. So I'd say, like, in a weird way, it's almost less pressure doing it overseas than it would be doing it back at home.
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PFT Commenter
True, true. No one's gonna watch. We're all gonna watch.
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Miny
Yeah.
- [25:50]
Dan
It is going to be this. This might be the London of the year.
- [25:54]
PFT Commenter
Yes, I'd agree, but it might be too obvious.
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Dan
Might be like a 10 to 2 game.
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PFT Commenter
But it might be so obvious. I psych myself out and take the over and then watch the 10 to 2 game and be like, why are you so stupid?
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Dan
Guess the over. Under.
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PFT Commenter
I'm gonna guess it can't be more than 40.
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Dan
37 and a half.
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PFT Commenter
I was gonna say. I was gonna say 37 flat. It can't be over 40.
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Hank
Sportsbook.
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PFT Commenter
It's.
- [26:26]
Hank
It's 36 and a half.
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Miny
Oh, wow.
- [26:29]
PFT Commenter
We're both off. It's lower than we both thought. So.
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Dan
I love that, though. It's a challenge.
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PFT Commenter
No, that means our statistical model says we got to take the over by a point. Yeah, we had 37 and 37 and a half. Okay. And the other thing I had was. Anyone want to take a shot? Zach, why don't you take a shot at explaining what's going on in the WNBA right now? I do not understand it, but I just saw a lot of tweets about it.
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Zach
Is it regarding the WNBA saying that the only reason Caitlin Clark is getting her advertisements is because of the wnba? Is that we're talking about.
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PFT Commenter
I think it was Nafisa.
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Zach
Yeah, that was. I think that was a bold statement.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Miny
By wnba.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, so there we go.
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Dan
Wait, a bold statement by. By the players or by the league?
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Zach
What was that?
- [27:19]
Dan
Who made the bold statement? I think.
- [27:21]
Zach
I think the league saying that the league is responsible for all of Caitlin Clark's brand deals is crazy.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
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Dan
Insane. Yeah, agreed.
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PFT Commenter
I don't know if the league said it. I think it was Nafisa said it.
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Zach
Oh, Nafisa. I retract that. Nafisa Wild saving from Nafisa. I don't want to put that on the league.
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Dan
Wait, I thought. I thought Nafisa said that. The league told her that.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, okay, Go back, Zach. This is some really good. This is where we get into idiot jazz. So. So it's the league through Nafisa.
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Miny
I.
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Dan
Yes, I believe Nafisa was speaking to the league and complaining about the. The young players and the pay scale and then the League said to Nafisa, you're lucky that you guys get those endorsements because we bring you those endorsements. And then Nafisa said, the league said that. And then everyone was like, that was wild for the league to tell Nafisa that.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, so Nafisa wasn't going after Caitlin Clark?
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Dan
I don't think so.
- [28:19]
PFT Commenter
Okay, so the league was going. Was basically being like, you're like, you and Caitlin Clark are lucky you have us.
- [28:27]
Dan
All right, so I'm going to. I'm going to do the audience a favor by reading one article about this.
- [28:32]
Miny
Okay. All right. All right.
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Dan
I think I agree with everything Collier said. That's Nafisa. Okay, said Lexi hall, the Fever's alternate player rep for the wnb. Wnbpa.
- [28:45]
PFT Commenter
Wait.
- [28:46]
Dan
We're at a really important time in the league and changes need to be made. And so you're seeing her talk about that and proud of her for making that statement today.
- [28:54]
PFT Commenter
Wait, Pft. Read a. Read a full article to yourself. And then while memes ranks his hate watch teams and then come back to us with. With the summary. Memes hate watch teams who you're. Who you're rooting for to lose in the most sad, like, torturous fashion and then go down from there.
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Brandon Walker
Or. Or you.
- [29:15]
Miny
Yeah.
- [29:16]
Hank
Or just which. Where you want our teams to lose in the playoffs.
- [29:19]
Miny
Yeah.
- [29:20]
Hank
And how.
- [29:21]
Miny
Yeah.
- [29:23]
Memes
All right, so number one, I'll go with Phillies.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [29:26]
Memes
Hate the Phillies. Would like. I would like them to go nine innings each time, get walked off each time in the.
- [29:33]
PFT Commenter
In the DS.
- [29:36]
Memes
By the Dodgers.
- [29:37]
PFT Commenter
Oh, okay. Okay. Walked off in nine inch. So sweep though. Yeah, sweep.
- [29:42]
Miny
Okay.
- [29:44]
PFT Commenter
A walk off sweep.
- [29:47]
Max
That's impossible. But continue.
- [29:50]
Memes
Yankees number two.
- [29:51]
Miny
Oh, yeah.
- [29:52]
PFT Commenter
That is impossible.
- [29:54]
Max
The first two games are at home.
- [29:57]
Memes
Yankees number two.
- [29:58]
Miny
Okay.
- [29:58]
Memes
I would like also to take them out tomorrow. But it's like 10, 10 to nothing.
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Brandon Walker
That's ideal.
- [30:06]
PFT Commenter
Keep going.
- [30:08]
Memes
I'll throw Blue Jays at three.
- [30:10]
PFT Commenter
Oh, nice.
- [30:11]
Memes
Canada.
- [30:12]
Miny
Boo. Okay.
- [30:17]
Max
Memes, you walked into the office today and looked at Big Cat and said, let's go, pods.
- [30:21]
Miny
Yeah.
- [30:22]
PFT Commenter
No, you.
- [30:23]
Memes
The trustery branched together.
- [30:25]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we did come back together, but that's a little preview for later. But you can throw the Cubs in there. Where do you want the Cubs to lose? You want to also get walked off by the Dodgers?
- [30:36]
Memes
Game seven, World Series.
- [30:38]
PFT Commenter
Okay, to who? The Mariners.
- [30:40]
Memes
To the Mariners.
- [30:41]
PFT Commenter
Okay. What about the Red Sox?
- [30:43]
Memes
I live by Wrigley.
- [30:44]
PFT Commenter
It'll be fun.
- [30:46]
Memes
I don't hate the Red Sox.
- [30:48]
Miny
That bad.
- [30:49]
Memes
We'll put them at five okay, but.
- [30:51]
PFT Commenter
How do you want them to lose?
- [30:54]
Memes
To the Mariners.
- [30:55]
Miny
Yeah. Yes.
- [30:56]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [30:57]
Miny
Okay.
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PFT Commenter
Anyone else? Dodgers. Dodgers.
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Memes
Yeah. They get.
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PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [31:08]
Memes
NLCS to the Cubs.
- [31:10]
Miny
Okay. This is great.
- [31:15]
PFT Commenter
This is a great. Someone needs to make the hate watch. Bad. Mariners over Mariners over Cubs. Parlayed with the. The Cubs over the Dodgers. Parlayed with the Dodgers on all walk off home runs against the Phillies.
- [31:29]
Miny
Yep.
- [31:31]
Dan
Which is impossible.
- [31:33]
PFT Commenter
Which is impossible.
- [31:34]
Dan
Sweep of walk off home runs over the Phillies would be so good for this program. No.
- [31:40]
Miny
Yeah.
- [31:40]
Dan
What?
- [31:40]
PFT Commenter
It was impossible.
- [31:42]
Miny
No, hold on, hold on.
- [31:43]
PFT Commenter
What?
- [31:43]
Dan
Memes.
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PFT Commenter
No, me. We can. We can workshop this. Memes. What if game one and two is the exact same catch? Robbing a home run. Walk off. You like that. And then game three is a walk off.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Game three is a walk off. Exact same ball hit to the exact same spot. And the Philly center fielder doesn't catch.
- [32:07]
Dan
It bounces off his head.
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Miny
Yeah.
- [32:10]
PFT Commenter
So all three are exactly the same.
- [32:13]
Miny
This is.
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Max
I hate that you. This is such that you're even, like, manifesting this into the world.
- [32:20]
Dan
I mean, factor fiction for the show.
- [32:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we're not manifesting.
- [32:24]
Dan
You're speaking it into.
- [32:27]
Memes
Hate watch.
- [32:28]
PFT Commenter
He wants a hate watch. All right, Max, if that exact scenario happens in three games, I will give you $1 million cash.
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Miny
Okay.
- [32:41]
Dan
Okay, I'll match it.
- [32:44]
PFT Commenter
The ball has to be at the exact same place three times in a row to end the game. Two of them catches over the wall. One of them hitting a guy in the head and going over the wall.
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Max
No, thanks.
- [32:56]
PFT Commenter
$2 million cash.
- [32:59]
Max
If I had a choice.
- [33:00]
PFT Commenter
Imagine if we get. What if we get to game three and it happened in game one and two, and Max is just rooting for it and it doesn't hit him in the head.
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Dan
Max, you have to. You have to tell us right now. Do you accept it? Do you accept the $2 million?
- [33:14]
Max
I. I do not accept the $2 million.
- [33:16]
PFT Commenter
Okay, $5 million.
- [33:19]
Max
Okay.
- [33:20]
Miny
If.
- [33:20]
Max
Five. Five. I'll take the five.
- [33:22]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [33:23]
Dan
All right, you're on. For not accepting $2 million. If you.
- [33:26]
Miny
Where's your price?
- [33:27]
Dan
Like four and a half.
- [33:28]
PFT Commenter
He just got five. He just got. I just got five. So how am I a. Yeah, good job.
- [33:34]
Max
In that moment, I still will be like, I want this ball to be a home run for sure.
- [33:40]
PFT Commenter
You mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, of course.
- [33:43]
Max
If it got. If it got to that third game and it was like, you either get $5 million or. Or the walk off home run in my favor, I would take the walk off home run.
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PFT Commenter
Although Listen, if this happens, this clip will just be. We'll just market ourselves as. As fortune tellers and we'll make. It will pay for itself. This clip be more than $5 million. All right, PFT finishes off with the WNBA report.
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Dan
All right, so here's the news. I think I was right about this. So Nafisa Collier is the head of the wnbpa. That's the WNBA Players Association. She's the player rep. She met with the commissioner. Kathy Engelbert called her negligent. Kathy Engelbert fired back at her, made some allusions to the fact that the young players, instead of asking for more money, should be happy with the sponsorship deals that the league brings into them. To which Nafisa Collier, or apparently Fee, as she's called, made that statement publicly known to the rest of her to all the other player reps. And they all agreed with her. Like this lady. Kathy Engelbert is full of shit. We got your back Fee. Paige Bucher's posted a story on Instagram that said Queen Fee. It was a picture of the piece of Collier and Elena Del Dunn posted on Instagram as well. And she said it's the care for the human part. For me, I'm still not sure if Kathy knows I retired.
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Miny
Oh.
- [35:15]
Dan
So, yeah, they don't like. Bottom line is they hate Kathy. Kathy, you got to get out of town.
- [35:20]
PFT Commenter
Edd is my goat.
- [35:23]
Dan
Edd is great. Yeah, I'm a Page Buker guy. I'm a PB guy.
- [35:26]
Miny
Yeah. Damn.
- [35:28]
PFT Commenter
Okay, so we got some. We got some tumultuous things happening.
- [35:32]
Dan
So, yeah, I guess. Are we an anti Kathy podcast?
- [35:36]
PFT Commenter
No. Kathy. Kathy.
- [35:39]
Miny
Her.
- [35:39]
PFT Commenter
She's a.
- [35:40]
Dan
And the horse she wrote in on.
- [35:41]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I don't like her.
- [35:44]
Miny
Yeah.
- [35:44]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, there we go. Zach. Hater. Hater.
- [35:48]
Dan
Zach, what are your thoughts regarding Kathy out on Kathy?
- [35:52]
PFT Commenter
If the WNBA wants to pay us a ton of money to say pro WNBA things we will accept.
- [35:57]
Dan
Yeah, I'll. I'll switch up real quick.
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PFT Commenter
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Brandon Walker
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PFT Commenter
2 bad Monday night Football games equals. I don't know, I was thinking maybe one good game, but it really doesn't. It actually, like, almost goes the other direction where it's like three bad games. Because it was such a bummer watching Monday Night Football. Double header.
- [38:17]
Miny
Yeah.
- [38:17]
Dan
If you're gonna have two bad games, I would like for one to be so bad that it turns good.
- [38:21]
Miny
Yeah.
- [38:21]
Dan
And it was just kind of two bad games that were bad.
- [38:24]
Miny
Yeah.
- [38:24]
Dan
Boring.
- [38:25]
Miny
Bad.
- [38:26]
Dan
We learned something last night.
- [38:28]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [38:29]
Dan
Joe Burrow might be the best athlete to ever play sports.
- [38:32]
Miny
Okay. Yeah.
- [38:33]
Dan
I was going to say, like, Joe Burrow for mvp. I've heard people say that. I think it goes past that.
- [38:38]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. So let's start with that game.
- [38:39]
Miny
The. The.
- [38:40]
PFT Commenter
The big takeaway from that game. Well, there's two takeaways, in my opinion. One is the Broncos needed that game.
- [38:45]
Miny
Bo.
- [38:45]
PFT Commenter
Nick's back on track. That was the Broncos offensive output that they were hoping for in the first three weeks. They looked sensational. Their defense looked awesome.
- [38:54]
Dan
Sean Payton got his first 100 yard rusher out in Denver.
- [38:57]
Miny
Yep.
- [38:57]
PFT Commenter
Yep. So it was like, basically everything worked for the Broncos. It was a no doubter. And. And like I said, Bo, Nick's, like, getting a little comfortable. Cortland Sutton's really fucking good. I mean, they have guys everywhere. It feels like the Broncos have a ton of team speed.
- [39:11]
Dan
Do they get. Do they have guys at every level?
- [39:13]
PFT Commenter
They do.
- [39:14]
Dan
Think about all the levels they got. Offensive line, I'd say. What's his name? Quinn Minors. Yeah, that's. That's a guy at that level.
- [39:21]
Miny
Yep.
- [39:21]
Dan
They got a guy at the receiver level. Maybe they might have two because they've got a great blocking receiver, too. What's that guy's name? Young guy through a great block. Anyways. He's great. Then they've got maybe two guys at the running back level.
- [39:33]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [39:34]
Dan
And they've got Bo Nix at the quarterback level. And then we can talk about their defense just being awesome.
- [39:38]
PFT Commenter
Their defense is awesome. Their defensive line gets after the passer. Their. Their secondary is awesome. The Broncos, this was the game they needed.
- [39:45]
Miny
Yeah.
- [39:45]
PFT Commenter
And then on the other side, we got to figure out the Bengals situation. We cannot watch more primetime games with these Bengals. The Bengals, right now, in the last two games, they've had 22 drives on offense. 14 of those drives have ended in a punt, five of them in a turnover. So 19 out of 22 drives, their last two games have been a turnover or a punt. That is so, so bad, and it is so, so depressing. And it's hard to watch T. Higgins and Jamar Chase be like, what are we doing? And they can't get the ball out, and they can't do anything.
- [40:23]
Dan
Here's a crazy stat. Did you know that the Bengals have been outscored 14 to 13 when they're on offense in the last two weeks?
- [40:32]
PFT Commenter
Because Isaiah Rogers.
- [40:33]
Dan
Because Isaiah Rogers had two.
- [40:35]
Miny
Yeah.
- [40:36]
Dan
Two returns for touchdowns. It's. It's their. Their offense is down 13 to 14 against opposing teams. Defenses over the last two weeks.
- [40:43]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's. It's very, very brutal to watch. And I don't.
- [40:47]
Miny
I.
- [40:48]
PFT Commenter
We have more Bengals primetime games coming up. We need Jameis so, so badly. It does feel like this was also like. I. I don't know. I was like, oh, yeah. The Bengals are 2 0. Joe Burrows hurt. Yeah, it's. He's going to be out for a long time, but maybe they can tread water. I no longer think they can tread.
- [41:08]
Miny
Oh.
- [41:08]
Dan
I think the rest of the team. It's not just Jake Browning I think the entire team knows that we're fucked here and we can't come back from this hot seat. Zach Taylor, it's back. Maybe because the team didn't look like they were giving any effort at all last night. So I looked it up. Here's how bad the situation is. Big cat for the national TV audience. So this is why it impacts you at home.
- [41:28]
PFT Commenter
By the way, Troy Franklin, I think was the guy.
- [41:29]
Dan
Troy.
- [41:30]
Miny
Yeah, yeah.
- [41:30]
Dan
Great blocker. National audience. You're going to be subjected to so much Bengals over the next month, month and a half. This impacts you at home, even if you're not a Bengals fan because you're a psa. This is a psa. Next two weeks, they've got the Lions and the Packers. That's going to be the 4:30 time slot. So the national game.
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Miny
Okay.
- [41:53]
Dan
Then Thursday Night Football against the Steelers. Oh, then they're going to have a Thanksgiving game and then they go back to the national game. 4:30 against the Bills. Then Sunday Night Football against the Dolphins.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, they have the Thanksgiving night game.
- [42:08]
Dan
This is. This is going to tear families apart. Jamis, if you weren't in an argument with your uncle already on Thanksgiving, you will be in an argument with him by the time this game's over, because everyone's gonna be pissed off. And if you look at the quarterback situation there, they've got Jake Browning, Mike White, Brett Rippon, Sean Clifford. There's a common thread between all those guys. They're cheap. Combined, they cost 2.1 million against the cap. James makes 3 million for, in theory, a third string quarterback. Mike Brown does not want to pay a backup backup quarterback, a third option quarterback, $3 million.
- [42:47]
PFT Commenter
Could we do a GoFundMe?
- [42:48]
Dan
That's what I put out on Twitter last night. Yeah, I think that we can do a GoFundMe and at least maybe make up the difference between what their combined backups make and what he's going to have to pay Jameis Winston. If Mike Brown would be open to that.
- [43:02]
Miny
Yeah, because this is.
- [43:03]
Dan
It's a national emergency.
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PFT Commenter
And their offensive line obviously is bad, so it's going to be tough for any quarterback that plays in Cincinnati. But at least James is going to sling it. At least he's going to throw it.
- [43:14]
Dan
He's going to throw it and it's going to be fun. And Jamar, the problem is like, Jamar Chase is checked out right now.
- [43:20]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, rightfully so. It was, I mean, it, it was frustrating watching the, the. There was a couple deep shots early that were missed and Then just not being able to get the ball out. It's, it's really bad.
- [43:32]
Dan
The Broncos credit, they, they did play, they've got secondary. And so whether it was Riley Moss or if it was certain that was on Jamar Chase, it didn't look like there was a lot of separation going on across the board. But still, you gotta, you gotta at least make us want to watch these primetime games.
- [43:49]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, the Bengals. Yeah. And I, I agree. Like the, the Broncos. That was a statement when I know the Bengals are bad, but they needed that and like it feels like the Broncos are back on track two and two. So in the last two games, the Bengals have lost by 25 points plus points, had under 200 total yards, had under 60 rushing yards, been outrushed by a hundred plus yards and taken three sacks. No other NFL team has done that combo in back to back games in the super bowl era, which it sounds like, oh, that's a lot of stuff you just listed, but still, it's basically a lot of stuff being like they're really, really bad and there have been a lot of really, really bad teams, but they are historically bad in the last two games.
- [44:30]
Dan
Very, very bad.
- [44:31]
PFT Commenter
Very, very bad. Bummer to watch. Other game. Jets, Dolphins. Let's start with the Dolphins. Dolphins. I got to give credit to them first of all. Kind of liked their jerseys.
- [44:44]
Miny
Yeah.
- [44:44]
PFT Commenter
Like I, I, I, they were, they were kind of in that realm of not real NFL jerseys, like 2K. A teenager came up with them in an alternate world, but I, I kind of liked him.
- [44:58]
Dan
Well, it's a hack for NFL teams. If you, if you have jerseys that you're sick of looking at, just make them look as much like the Steelers as possible.
- [45:04]
Miny
Right.
- [45:04]
Dan
And then you'll be like, oh, maybe our defense is good now.
- [45:06]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, they kind of pop for a night game. And I will give the Dolph, they are fighting for that. I had them as my bad vibes team. Their vibes are okay because they, they fought hard against the Bills. They beat the Jets. Tyree Kill goes out. He's going to be out for the year and maybe even longer. He was maybe happy. That was weird.
- [45:29]
Dan
Yeah, I mean, when I first saw it, I was like, yeah, he does look like he's pumped to not be playing for the Dolphins anymore.
- [45:35]
Miny
Yeah.
- [45:36]
Dan
But then I thought more about it and he like dislocated his knee, tore everything. Probably a lot of weird chemicals and emotions going through his brain at that time. He, that was actually him, I think, being a good teammate. Yeah, he was like Trying to pump his boys up. Mike McDaniel after the game said that he, that Tyreek said, like, go out there and get this win for me. Which if my knee got destroyed like that, I would, I would be like, fuck all you guys.
- [45:58]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah. The.
- [45:59]
PFT Commenter
Is Tyreek Hill a better football player with one leg than person?
- [46:07]
Miny
Yeah.
- [46:07]
PFT Commenter
Probably right. It was funny. I was, I was noticing.
- [46:11]
Dan
Yes.
- [46:11]
PFT Commenter
When he got hurt. You know when a guy gets really badly hurt in a primetime game and there's a lot of, oh, man, I feel so bad for him. Oh, that's so brutal. It was more just, damn, that leg looked bad.
- [46:23]
Miny
Yeah.
- [46:24]
PFT Commenter
That was kind of all. It wasn't like, oh, man, poor Tyree. It was just that that was a nasty injury. I think statement of fact.
- [46:31]
Dan
What I'm concerned about, he needs to get back in time for the Olympics.
- [46:34]
Miny
Yeah.
- [46:35]
Dan
Because he's going to be a problem in flag football.
- [46:37]
PFT Commenter
And it is. He is a fun player to watch. So it is a bummer in that respect. But yeah, the, the Dolphins, they're fighting.
- [46:43]
Dan
They were back on their swaggy, too. They had, they had to do the behind the back right handed pass.
- [46:48]
Miny
Yep.
- [46:48]
Dan
Tool might be right handed.
- [46:49]
Miny
Yeah.
- [46:50]
Dan
That was my takeaway from that because that was, that was a sick pass.
- [46:52]
PFT Commenter
Why are we like, can we just enjoy the. Because that happened and it was only a six yard gain. Everyone's like, all that for a six yard gain. Come on. It's fun. That was a cool play. Mike McDaniel's got a little swag back. He's. He's emptying the keys. Going down with a fight. It's, it's. You don't want to see teams quit in September and the Dolphins haven't quit.
- [47:12]
Dan
There was a funny moment after the game. I've seen all the clips from pretty much any coach that wins in the NFL. Their locker room speech goes viral after the fact because they're all like, really, really happy that they won an NFL game. And then they showed Mike McDaniel last night after the game. He was like, I think in this room it's. We got a, It's a better feeling today than we've had this, this year before. Before today.
- [47:33]
Miny
Huh?
- [47:33]
Dan
And everybody was like, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [47:37]
PFT Commenter
And they have the Panthers next, so watch out.
- [47:39]
Dan
Watch out for the Dolphins.
- [47:40]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, the Dolphins get hot to 2 and 3. The other side, the jets memes. That was a tough watch.
- [47:48]
Memes
It was tough watch. The game was pretty much over after the first drive.
- [47:52]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [47:53]
Memes
You thought they were going to do man, football the entire game. And then they just fumbled and the game was over.
- [47:57]
PFT Commenter
I did, I was enthused watching that first drive up until Braylon Allen's fumble where I was like, oh, the jets have figured out they're just going to be a service academy.
- [48:05]
Miny
Yeah.
- [48:06]
PFT Commenter
And they're just going to run it down their throat.
- [48:08]
Memes
Yeah. And then the, the wheels just fell off from there.
- [48:11]
Dan
I think Orlovsky said at the time, like I just wouldn't throw the ball. If I was the Jets, I would keep doing that. And then the jets proceeded to passed the ball in like three or the next four plays and it didn't go well.
- [48:20]
Memes
Yeah, they were averaging eight yards per carry in the first half.
- [48:24]
PFT Commenter
And, and, and Justin Field's stat line isn't that bad. But everyone who watched the game, no.
- [48:30]
Memes
He, he didn't play that bad. The, the worst thing he did was just the pre snap penalties and then it was just a million of them.
- [48:36]
Miny
Yeah.
- [48:37]
Memes
It just killed him in the end.
- [48:38]
PFT Commenter
And it felt like he didn't throw the ball until they were down a lot. And not that it was garbage time because they ended up losing only by six. But that first half is like they, they're not even going to try to throw. No.
- [48:51]
Memes
And I didn't understand that at all.
- [48:54]
Miny
Yeah.
- [48:54]
Memes
If, if your career is on the line, I don't know why you're just not non stop throwing it. Throw a million interceptions. Who gives a fuck?
- [49:01]
Hank
I agree with Aaron Glenn or Justin Fields.
- [49:04]
Memes
Justin Fields.
- [49:04]
PFT Commenter
Justin Fields.
- [49:05]
Miny
Yeah.
- [49:05]
PFT Commenter
I mean Garrett Wilson is awesome. He should have gotten the first touchdown with the opi. Then he got another one. That was awesome. Breeze hall kind of put it perfectly. He said teams shoot themselves in the foot. Then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head.
- [49:18]
Miny
Yeah.
- [49:18]
PFT Commenter
I wonder if he's talking about the. There was a fair catch punt at the two yard line. Rare to see.
- [49:26]
Dan
It was exciting. It was exciting because it was one of those did they just do that? Moments right afterwards. Like I can't believe that it has to be a pretty bad fuck up around the goal line to make Dan Orlovsky say this guy has no idea where he's on the field. Yeah, like that's, that's new ground that we're breaking.
- [49:41]
PFT Commenter
Memes. Where, where are we at overall? Can I, can I share some of the things? I love your two year plan. Memes has a two year plan. Do you guys want to hear memes to your plan? Yeah, it's a really good two year plan.
- [49:56]
Memes
Am I saying the two year plan or you say.
- [49:58]
PFT Commenter
No, you say, you say the two year plan.
- [50:01]
Memes
So the two year plan going into last night's game, if they won, which they didn't.
- [50:09]
Dan
Wait, your entire two year long term plan was based on the outcome of one game?
- [50:13]
PFT Commenter
That's ultimate gateway.
- [50:14]
Memes
Yeah, it was the, it was the ultimate gateway game. All right, but after last night's game, I don't think they're going to win a game. I think they're going to go.
- [50:21]
PFT Commenter
I think they're going to win again.
- [50:22]
Dan
They're going to win.
- [50:23]
PFT Commenter
They're going to win a game.
- [50:24]
Memes
That team did not look like they could win a game.
- [50:26]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [50:28]
Memes
But this year you're going to be picking top five, probably top three. Okay, Next year's schedule is insanely hard. So you're punting on next year. So you draft all defense next year.
- [50:40]
Dan
Wait, how do you know next year's schedule is going to be insanely hard?
- [50:43]
Memes
They have your next opponents for like the next three years.
- [50:46]
Dan
But you guys are going to, if you're as bad as you say that you're going to be, you're going to have a last place schedule.
- [50:52]
Memes
No, but you still have to play the NFC north and you AFC West.
- [50:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but you don't know who's going to be good. Yeah, you know, injuries, trades. Okay, okay, so continue with your two year play.
- [51:07]
Memes
So you draft all defense this year, then the next year you draft a quarterback.
- [51:11]
PFT Commenter
So every pick on defense.
- [51:13]
Memes
Every pick on defense, the defense is historically bad.
- [51:16]
Dan
So if you're picking top three, and let's just say, I don't know, Arch Manning.
- [51:21]
PFT Commenter
Not ours.
- [51:21]
Miny
No.
- [51:22]
PFT Commenter
Dante Moore.
- [51:25]
Brandon Walker
Pass.
- [51:25]
Memes
Okay, now, now if they fall to the second round, I just wouldn't waste another first round pick on a quarterback.
- [51:32]
Miny
Yeah.
- [51:32]
PFT Commenter
Okay, so all defense this year then all offense.
- [51:37]
Memes
But like you have the offensive line in place, you have Garrett Wilson, you need wide receiver, two and three.
- [51:43]
Miny
Yeah.
- [51:43]
Memes
Mason Taylor looked good last night, so.
- [51:46]
PFT Commenter
Also, by the way, what a flex for Jason Taylor to go to a football game in his gold jacket. Yeah, that was a nice move. And people are just way too fast to try to find their next Coldplay moment. It was his wife.
- [51:56]
Dan
It's his wife.
- [51:57]
PFT Commenter
His wife was sitting on his lap. Right, but we're so. The Internet is so hungry to ruin someone's life. They're like, oh my God, Jason Taylor. All right, so two year plan, all defense, then all offense, then win.
- [52:08]
Memes
Yeah. Trade, trade. Anybody worth anything. I feel bad for guys like Quinn and Williams. Been on the team forever and they just can't Figure it out.
- [52:15]
Miny
Yeah. The.
- [52:16]
PFT Commenter
Would you trade? You would not trade.
- [52:18]
Memes
Garrett Wilson would not trade.
- [52:19]
PFT Commenter
He's a stud. Would you trade Breeze Hall?
- [52:23]
Memes
I don't want to, but I think you have to.
- [52:25]
Miny
Okay.
- [52:27]
PFT Commenter
What about coach?
- [52:31]
Memes
I'm rooting for him.
- [52:33]
PFT Commenter
Okay, That's a good answer. Good answer, good answer.
- [52:35]
Dan
So last week. Last week you said you wanted him fired if you gave up 28 points to the Bucks. Now you're rooting for him?
- [52:42]
Memes
Well, no, I've always been rooting for him.
- [52:44]
PFT Commenter
No, that's. That's the. They're just kids tweet.
- [52:46]
Miny
Yeah.
- [52:47]
PFT Commenter
When you say I'm rooting for him. The.
- [52:48]
Miny
The.
- [52:49]
PFT Commenter
The parentheses is I want him fired. He's a joke.
- [52:52]
Memes
Yeah. And we have an. We have an irrational owner who's just will fire him at any point in time.
- [52:58]
Dan
That is true. You always have to be on the lookout for that. Okay, if you woke up tomorrow morning, Aaron Glenn was fired. What's your initial reaction?
- [53:08]
Memes
Disappointed.
- [53:09]
Miny
Okay.
- [53:10]
Memes
Because, like, he. I saw a tweet today that Robert Salah defense his first year was also historically bad.
- [53:19]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [53:19]
Memes
So it does take time to get that. That figured out, but I just. I don't know. It's just been 15 years of shit.
- [53:26]
Dan
It would be. It would be absurd to fire him right now.
- [53:28]
Memes
It'd be absurd.
- [53:29]
Dan
Absurd. You can't even entertain those thoughts. You can't put that into the universe.
- [53:33]
PFT Commenter
I was on a text chain with Memes last night. It got dark, and rightfully so. Can I. Can I share one thing that I made me chuckle a little, but it also, like, tells you exactly where jets fans are.
- [53:45]
Max
Trust broken.
- [53:47]
PFT Commenter
Trust. All right, I'm not going to say meme said it. I'm going to say someone else.
- [53:50]
Memes
We have a group chat.
- [53:51]
Max
It's literally called the Trust Big Cat and two.
- [53:54]
Memes
Two other Jeff fans that work here.
- [53:56]
PFT Commenter
All right, this was said. I'm not saying who said it, but it did make me chuckle a little because it's like, this is how NFL fans work. Someone said, I have one more rebuild in me, and then I'm just going to be a casual fan. And I was like, that's. That's the most, like, bot. Like, that's the darkest thought being like, I'm giving you one more chance to rebuild this team, knowing full well that that's not going to happen. You're going to still live and die with the Jets. Not going to say who said this, but I said that it was very funny. I laughed because I was just like. Like, just being like Got one more like you could do this one more time. Jets, you could rebuild one more time.
- [54:33]
Memes
Yeah, but that by then that'll be like year 18 of a playoff drought.
- [54:36]
Miny
Right?
- [54:37]
Memes
How many more rebuilds could you do?
- [54:39]
Dan
That's the thing about the NFL is right when you're sick of rebuilds, your owner will hire some coach that'll make you insanely excited.
- [54:45]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah.
- [54:47]
Memes
But then the screenshots come out of every single past coach just doing that same dumb face on the sideline being like, what did I sign up for?
- [54:54]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah, I have a spin zone for you memes. I shared this on Wake Up Barstool. So I was looking at it last night. If the history of the entire planet. So earth was a 24 hour day. Human beings didn't arrive on Earth. Didn't human beings weren't human beings until. So it's 24 hours. Human beings weren't human beings until 11, 58 and 43 seconds. Do you understand that?
- [55:29]
Memes
No, but continue.
- [55:30]
PFT Commenter
So all of Earth, I'm saying the whole history of Earth, human beings have only been around for that small part a minute and whatever it is. 17 seconds, the last very piece. That's how long Earth has been around. Your life, if you live to a hundred, is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second. In this 24 hour day. It all doesn't matter. Dude, it's like there's been so much that's happened on, on planet Earth and there's going to be so much that happens. Who fucking cares? They got how small we are.
- [56:00]
Memes
That's a good point.
- [56:01]
PFT Commenter
But yeah, we're nothing.
- [56:03]
Memes
We're all not winning a football game.
- [56:05]
PFT Commenter
I know, but we're all nothing. I'm just trying to think big picture here. We're all nothing. Does that.
- [56:09]
Miny
Do you do.
- [56:09]
PFT Commenter
Do you understand how small that is? A minute and set. Human beings showed up a minute and 17 seconds left in the 24 hour day. That's how much Earth history has happened before that. It's crazy.
- [56:22]
Memes
That is crazy. It's a euphoria of winning a football game.
- [56:25]
PFT Commenter
I agree. I agree.
- [56:26]
Dan
It's also hard to squeeze that many penalty flags into a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second.
- [56:32]
Memes
So many penalty flags all.
- [56:33]
PFT Commenter
It's all penalties.
- [56:34]
Dan
Yeah, and didn't. Didn't your coach say like he. Didn't he hire some refs this off season?
- [56:40]
Memes
Yeah, he said, he said we're gonna, we're gonna figure this out. Yeah, he said we're gonna put a stop to this.
- [56:44]
Dan
I think he had refs at, like, every single practice because he's. He said no more being the most penalized team that stops now.
- [56:51]
Memes
Yeah. And there could be some residuals of not having a coach for however long.
- [56:56]
Miny
Yeah.
- [56:57]
Dan
Yeah, that's.
- [56:58]
Memes
Yeah, they didn't have a coach since week five. It's a lot of the same guys. They probably should have cut or traded all the guys from that defense. Just. You come from Dan Campbell. You got to flush the turds.
- [57:11]
Miny
Yeah.
- [57:11]
Memes
That's his motto.
- [57:12]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. You got to flush the turret.
- [57:13]
Dan
The guys on the team, they played an entire season basically without a coach, and then all of a sudden, they have a coach now. That's got to be weird for them, too. It's like, hey, I thought. I thought we were free range football players.
- [57:23]
Miny
Yeah.
- [57:24]
PFT Commenter
You let us just. Yeah, I thought we were like, you know, cats that are left alone for the weekend where you just leave the food out. We just hang out.
- [57:31]
Miny
Yeah.
- [57:31]
Dan
It's the Montessori football.
- [57:32]
Miny
Right.
- [57:33]
Dan
And now all of a sudden, we have to have a teacher that we call teacher.
- [57:35]
Miny
Yeah, it's. Yeah.
- [57:37]
PFT Commenter
You didn't tell us there were rules.
- [57:39]
Dan
We used to not have homework.
- [57:40]
Miny
Yeah.
- [57:40]
Dan
Class used to be outside.
- [57:41]
Miny
This is.
- [57:42]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it's Will Ferrell and stepbrothers being like, this house is a prison.
- [57:45]
Miny
Yeah.
- [57:45]
PFT Commenter
You don't let me watch Cops anymore. What the fuck? Aaron? Glenn.
- [57:49]
Memes
Now, the other side of it, it was. It was. It was a terrible officiated game.
- [57:55]
Miny
It was.
- [57:55]
Memes
There was penalties. They just weren't calling on the Dolphins.
- [57:58]
Miny
The. The.
- [57:59]
PFT Commenter
The late hit on Justin Fields in like. I think it was the third or fourth quarter was egregious. It was like he slid and then someone just jumped on him.
- [58:05]
Memes
Yeah, there was one with. I think that was Jeremy Ruckert. They just. They jumped on him five seconds after. And then there was a penalty on the jets for a hold as Joe Tippmann's helmet was getting ripped off. Like a clear hands to the face. Like, you can't. You can't. Like they lost the game.
- [58:23]
Miny
Yeah.
- [58:24]
Memes
But you can complain about the refs.
- [58:26]
Brandon Walker
Yeah.
- [58:26]
Memes
Definitely was a terrible officiated game.
- [58:28]
Dan
That offensive pass interference was dog. That was bad. That happens every single play in the NFL.
- [58:33]
PFT Commenter
Where are you at with Justin Fields? Just let him just, Just, Just fuck it, dude. Who cares? Just fucking run around and throw it like it's not gonna work. But you just might as well make fun football. I mean, the run was fun. The run was fun.
- [58:45]
Memes
If Justin Fields had James, his brain, it would Be like the greatest watch.
- [58:48]
PFT Commenter
Of all time where he just. He has no.
- [58:50]
Memes
Just let it fly.
- [58:51]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, right.
- [58:52]
Miny
He.
- [58:52]
PFT Commenter
He just. He just fucking grip it and rip it.
- [58:54]
Memes
Yeah. Otherwise, like you're gonna be a career backup. Just let it fly.
- [58:58]
PFT Commenter
And not a bad backup to have. He's just not a starter, really.
- [59:03]
Dan
I would agree with that.
- [59:04]
Miny
Yeah.
- [59:04]
Dan
I think he'd be a great backup.
- [59:06]
Miny
Yeah.
- [59:06]
PFT Commenter
I'd rather watch a long career because, like, you can't.
- [59:08]
Dan
You can't really prepare for Justin Fields, the good stuff that he does.
- [59:11]
Miny
Yeah.
- [59:13]
PFT Commenter
Also, it's kind of that Darren Waller just beats you guys.
- [59:16]
Miny
Right.
- [59:17]
PFT Commenter
Like, that was.
- [59:18]
Miny
He.
- [59:18]
PFT Commenter
He had 12 games with the. With the Giants and scored one touchdown. He had one game with the Dolphins and scored two touchdowns. His back.
- [59:25]
Dan
He looked good.
- [59:26]
Miny
Yeah, he did look good.
- [59:28]
PFT Commenter
He did look good.
- [59:29]
Miny
All right.
- [59:30]
PFT Commenter
I'm sorry, Memes.
- [59:31]
Memes
It's okay.
- [59:32]
Miny
Yeah.
- [59:33]
PFT Commenter
I mean, there's a little piece in knowing that. It's just. It is what it is, right? This season at least.
- [59:41]
Memes
Yeah, but this is like the easiest schedule they've ever had.
- [59:45]
Miny
Yeah.
- [59:46]
PFT Commenter
You will win some games.
- [59:49]
Dan
Let's find your win.
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Miny
You're.
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PFT Commenter
I mean, I'm looking at it, right? Wait, is that their schedule right there?
- [59:54]
Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
They have the Cowboys. That's a coin flip. Broncos probably a loss. Panthers is a coin flip. Bengals is a coin flip. Is a coin flip. You can beat the Patriots.
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Memes
They just got to get the penalties figured out.
- [60:07]
Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And the Saints.
- [60:09]
Memes
Braylon Allen going out was awesome.
- [60:11]
PFT Commenter
You might. You guys might. You guys might make the playoffs. I'm looking at the schedule.
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Memes
Stop.
- [60:17]
Miny
Don't do that.
- [60:18]
PFT Commenter
Don't do this.
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Max
Don't do this.
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Memes
I have to win a game.
- [60:21]
Max
I think we finally got his expectations where they need to be if they win. Trying to bring him back.
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PFT Commenter
No, because I don't want him to get. It sucks giving. I've been here before. It sucks on. In September being like season's already over.
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Dan
It's a up situation for memes because best case scenario for him is actually now his worst case scenario. Because I think your best case scenario is you end with six wins, seven wins. Very best case scenario, right.
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Memes
Yeah. And that's best case scenario. But worst case scenario is 00:17. Then you have to fire a race.
- [60:47]
Miny
It.
- [60:47]
Memes
Yeah.
- [60:48]
Dan
But if you end with like seven wins, that's actually the worst case scenario.
- [60:53]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [60:54]
Dan
So that's. That's a bad place to be.
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PFT Commenter
Hank. You want to hop in here and. And pump up memes a little?
- [60:59]
Hank
No, they. They have no shot of Making the playoffs.
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PFT Commenter
I'm.
- [61:01]
Miny
I'm.
- [61:01]
Hank
You guys are being mean.
- [61:02]
PFT Commenter
No, we're not. We're trying to. We're trying to pump them up a little bit.
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Dan
I'm realistic.
- [61:07]
PFT Commenter
I tell you, I. The playoff thing was wrong, but I think they're going to win some games. I don't think they're.
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Hank
Rebuild. You don't want to win games.
- [61:14]
Miny
No.
- [61:14]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I know, but I. I do think they're not as bad.
- [61:17]
Miny
All right, fine.
- [61:18]
PFT Commenter
They're gonna lose every game.
- [61:20]
Miny
Yeah. All right.
- [61:22]
Memes
I want to win a game.
- [61:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you're gonna win a game. I. I will. I wish I could bet it right now. It's probably terrible odds. The jets will absolutely win a game this year.
- [61:30]
Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Flip it. Put it out there. I'll get a tattoo. If they don't win a game, jets are gonna get a tattoo. Memes. If they don't win a game.
- [61:37]
Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
All right. Will you get a tattoo you match?
- [61:40]
Dan
Yeah. Because they're gonna get. They're gonna win four games.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, four games. I'm not going to say four, but they will win a game.
- [61:46]
Dan
Four.
- [61:48]
Miny
All right.
- [61:48]
PFT Commenter
Any. Any other cleanup stuff. We're going to do a lot of college football talk with Brandon Walker. Some really good narrative talk coming off of a big weekend of college football. Anything else that we missed on Sunday, I would say watching back because we do record the show on Sundays during Sunday football. Very weird clock management by the Pack Packers.
- [62:10]
Miny
Yeah.
- [62:10]
PFT Commenter
That final drive.
- [62:11]
Dan
Really strange. Also, Dak Prescott looked great. Yeah, he looked really good.
- [62:14]
Miny
They.
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PFT Commenter
They somehow. Is CD Lamb the problem?
- [62:19]
Miny
I don't know. Right.
- [62:20]
Dan
CD Lamb was like George Pickens biggest fan during the game.
- [62:23]
PFT Commenter
I know, I know.
- [62:24]
Dan
Good vibes on the sideline.
- [62:25]
Miny
Yeah.
- [62:25]
PFT Commenter
The Cowboys are in that camp of, like, very fun, fun watch. The Cowboys should be in every, like, Sunday or Sunday Night Football or Monday football game because they don't play defense and they score.
- [62:36]
Dan
So we're going to talk about with. With Brandon Walker in a little bit, but I was thinking more about the Penn State game. Penn State, Oregon. Would we be thinking completely differently about Penn State if their offense was great and their defense sucked? Yes, I think we would.
- [62:49]
Miny
Right.
- [62:50]
Dan
It'd be like a completely. Because their defense, looking back on it, their defense is good, Max.
- [62:54]
Miny
Right? Yeah.
- [62:55]
Max
But it's the same thing. That's it. That's the difference is that if the offense was really good and the defense was slacking, you. You can convince yourself being like, oh, we just got to get that defense back to where it was.
- [63:06]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [63:07]
Max
When you when it's the same exact thing as, as it always has been, it's hard to get that hope.
- [63:12]
PFT Commenter
If you have, if you have a bad, if the Penn State had a bad defense, you can reasonably tell yourself, well, the standard has always been a good defense. We'll get back there.
- [63:21]
Dan
Yeah, exactly.
- [63:22]
PFT Commenter
With a bad offense. That's been the standard. And what's, what's going to change if.
- [63:28]
Dan
You guys lost the game 40 to 47, you'd be like, penn State, we're right in the thick of it.
- [63:34]
PFT Commenter
I don't know.
- [63:34]
Max
That's kind of what happened in the Big Ten championship though, last year.
- [63:37]
PFT Commenter
So it's like they might have broken through though.
- [63:39]
Dan
But you also thought last year, like, yeah, we could do it.
- [63:42]
PFT Commenter
Hank shaking his head, no way. They broke through.
- [63:44]
Hank
They should have went for two.
- [63:46]
PFT Commenter
They should have gone for two. There would have been at least a, a little finality to it where it's like, all right, you lose going for two, man. They were right there. It's just the way that the interception went, man.
- [63:58]
Dan
If, yeah, if you lose going for two, you. James Franklin, he at least gets some credit for having some balls.
- [64:03]
Max
That throw. I don't know how you make that throw. Yeah, there was no recipe to success for, for that throw.
- [64:09]
Dan
I, I want to call my shot with Drew Aller right now.
- [64:12]
Miny
Okay.
- [64:12]
Dan
You're gonna say that he's a bust insurance. No, I, I think this man is going to have a Chase Daniel type career as a backup quarterback. Oh, I think, I think this guy is grown in a lab to be a journeyman backup. Very Successful career millionaire top.001% of quarterback to ever play the game of football but never be the guys to start but a great backup.
- [64:37]
PFT Commenter
But the only problem with that is thinking more like Jake from the only problem with that though PFT is he's going to get like a. Or Christian Ackenberg. Christian Ackerber.
- [64:45]
Miny
Yeah.
- [64:45]
PFT Commenter
He's going to get like a real shot to start.
- [64:50]
Miny
Yeah, he will.
- [64:51]
PFT Commenter
If he's really bad at that start. Where in the NFL? No, I, I think. No, I think draft scouts will like fall in love with the tricks.
- [65:02]
Max
The jets will take them in the second round.
- [65:04]
Dan
Hank. It is the traits max that was mean in the second round. It was me you would get excited.
- [65:11]
Max
For Drew Aller in the second round.
- [65:13]
Dan
You made your point when you said Christian Hackenberg. You didn't have to drive it home.
- [65:17]
Max
Well, that's, that was my point.
- [65:20]
PFT Commenter
He's so think he's a good guy. Yeah, he's a. He's a 6, 5 quarterback who has a big arm. The NFL will always give a guy like that a shot.
- [65:30]
Hank
Yeah, I guess he's bad.
- [65:32]
PFT Commenter
They'll always give him a shot.
- [65:34]
Dan
Yes. This man is going to be a 15 year backup.
- [65:38]
Max
That one throw was good.
- [65:40]
PFT Commenter
I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this. Do you think the NFL quarterbacking would be better if we made a rule where every college quarterback has to play at least four, four years of college football?
- [65:50]
Dan
That's a one position.
- [65:51]
PFT Commenter
Just quarterbacks where it's like we just gotta, we want to make sure, we want to really make sure there's an exclusive club to be an NFL quarterback. It's 32, 32 spots. We're not going to just let anyone in there.
- [66:03]
Hank
Unless you win the Heisman.
- [66:04]
PFT Commenter
Because if he had gone last year, he would have.
- [66:06]
Dan
I like gone. I like that Hank.
- [66:08]
PFT Commenter
Heisman gets you out.
- [66:09]
Dan
You can unlock your, your potential Heisman or national championship.
- [66:12]
PFT Commenter
You're free to go.
- [66:13]
Miny
Yeah.
- [66:13]
PFT Commenter
Everything else. I like that a lot.
- [66:15]
Max
I still think the biggest problem with Penn State right now is they can't run the football. And like this whole team is predicated on being able to run the football. And for some reason Nick Singleton is. He was, he's supposed to go down as one of the best running backs in Penn State history and he's running for like 2 yards a carry this year. When he, when he's been so good his entire career, it makes no sense. He's got to get going for Penn State's offense to do anything.
- [66:40]
Miny
Yeah.
- [66:40]
PFT Commenter
What was, was that real? The, the screenshot of the, of him snapchatting, Was that real?
- [66:46]
Dan
I don't know.
- [66:47]
PFT Commenter
It's.
- [66:48]
Miny
That.
- [66:48]
Dan
It's hard to know.
- [66:49]
Max
I respect, I think everything is real.
- [66:50]
PFT Commenter
Also respect his game.
- [66:52]
Hank
Drew Aller. Yeah, I. It was hilarious.
- [66:55]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I mean if you're, if you're a Big ten, if you're a power four quarterback on a big time campus, just like snapping a girl and being like, want to come over and suck me off? I think that probably works.
- [67:08]
Dan
That's a, he's a direct communicator.
- [67:09]
Miny
Yeah.
- [67:10]
Dan
This guy that's in charge of the offense.
- [67:11]
Max
It was a question, simple question.
- [67:12]
Miny
Y.
- [67:13]
PFT Commenter
It's not like question.
- [67:14]
Dan
He's running the spread.
- [67:15]
Miny
He's.
- [67:15]
Dan
He's.
- [67:16]
Max
He was literally asking for consent.
- [67:17]
Miny
Yeah. Right.
- [67:18]
PFT Commenter
Like, do you want to come suck me off?
- [67:20]
Miny
I don't know.
- [67:20]
PFT Commenter
Again, we don't know.
- [67:21]
Dan
We don't know if that was him or not.
- [67:22]
PFT Commenter
No, we have no idea.
- [67:23]
Miny
We have no idea.
- [67:24]
PFT Commenter
And but if I'm saying more, if there's a hypothetical if that is how quarterbacks, all quarterbacks, not just Drew Aller, all quarterbacks in power four programs are acting. I have the question is, is fair to just be like, hey, Practice ends at 5. Do you want to come suck me off?
- [67:40]
Miny
Off?
- [67:41]
Max
Who wants to sex my tumbo?
- [67:42]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
- [67:43]
Dan
I also think that saying it might not be him because who says like, Practice ends at 5?
- [67:48]
Miny
Yeah.
- [67:48]
Dan
That's like a little on the nose to be like, yeah, I'm a quarterback.
- [67:50]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. It's probably most likely fake.
- [67:52]
Dan
My practice is over.
- [67:53]
PFT Commenter
And it's also, I'm always skeptical of one of these screenshots coming out right after a performance where everyone's mad at him because it feels like a pile on effect. Like, oh, I can get free, free publicity by making this up. So I'm going to say fake.
- [68:07]
Miny
Fake.
- [68:07]
PFT Commenter
Snopes fake. But Snopes, the thing that used to do the fake thing.
- [68:11]
Dan
Yeah, but would be. But would be funny if true.
- [68:13]
PFT Commenter
If, if true. Funny. Well played. But pmt Snopes rules fake.
- [68:19]
Dan
So did you see the other news in, in college sports? I have one.
- [68:23]
Hank
Did you guys talk with Brandon about Dan Lanning being so happy for Josh Allen?
- [68:28]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [68:30]
Dan
Not in, not in those words.
- [68:32]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, Dan Lenning is a fired up dude.
- [68:35]
Miny
Yeah.
- [68:35]
PFT Commenter
Very, very fired up. He's a fucking good coach.
- [68:38]
Dan
Very fired up.
- [68:39]
PFT Commenter
Very fired up.
- [68:41]
Hank
Really fired up.
- [68:42]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, Incredibly fired up. Well, it's a big time win.
- [68:46]
Dan
Jaw like Bill Cower.
- [68:47]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
- [68:48]
PFT Commenter
Fired up.
- [68:49]
Dan
That guy grinds.
- [68:51]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [68:52]
Dan
Big time.
- [68:54]
PFT Commenter
He snuffed out the competition.
- [68:56]
Dan
He did.
- [68:57]
PFT Commenter
Big time.
- [68:58]
Dan
I thought he did a great. Like their offense threw eight balls that were fantastic. At least eight perfect balls.
- [69:06]
PFT Commenter
But yeah, Dan Lennon's a great coach.
- [69:08]
Dan
They got a nose for the goal line.
- [69:09]
Miny
Yeah.
- [69:09]
PFT Commenter
What, what was the other thing you were saying?
- [69:11]
Dan
Just the, the update about the rules that they're going to put in place for nil.
- [69:16]
Brandon Walker
Oh.
- [69:16]
Dan
In Congress.
- [69:17]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [69:17]
Dan
So they're, they're debating it right now and some of the rules have leaked out a little bit. They're going to allow college football teams to wear sponsorship patches.
- [69:27]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [69:27]
Dan
On the jerseys.
- [69:28]
Miny
Okay.
- [69:29]
Dan
Which would be very interesting to see.
- [69:31]
Miny
What. Okay.
- [69:33]
Dan
What are you. I got one.
- [69:35]
PFT Commenter
I'm thinking about what max school will. Will we pay for to have PMT on it?
- [69:43]
Hank
Kent State or Toledo?
- [69:46]
PFT Commenter
Toledo.
- [69:46]
Dan
Yeah.
- [69:49]
Max
I think it has to be Toledo.
- [69:50]
PFT Commenter
It has to probably be. Toledo would rock because I don't know how much that would go for, but.
- [69:55]
Dan
We could probably I think probably like a million.
- [69:59]
Brandon Walker
What were you gonna say?
- [70:01]
Memes
Grambling State Tramp stamp branding. So bottom of the jersey.
- [70:06]
Miny
I love that.
- [70:08]
PFT Commenter
I love that.
- [70:09]
Miny
Yeah.
- [70:09]
Dan
What do you think? Hey, Memes, what do you think about Georgia Allstate? The General.
- [70:16]
Miny
Yeah.
- [70:17]
PFT Commenter
Maybe just emoji of sirens.
- [70:20]
Miny
Yeah.
- [70:20]
Dan
Miami should do coke.
- [70:22]
Miny
Maybe, maybe.
- [70:23]
PFT Commenter
Maybe Georgia's just a speed limit.
- [70:25]
Miny
Yeah.
- [70:25]
Dan
Actually, Oregon, Dan Lanning sponsored by Coke.
- [70:29]
Miny
Yeah.
- [70:30]
Dan
There was another rule that says that. Yeah. The conference can't prohibit jersey patches in any sport as long as they preserve roster spots. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's another rule that says that if you get drafted in the NFL, you can say, actually, no, I'd rather not play for that team. I'll go back to college.
- [70:49]
PFT Commenter
Oh, the Florio rule.
- [70:50]
Dan
So, yeah, you can, you can turn down a draft spot. I don't think it's. It hasn't been signed into law yet, but this is the bill that is currently making its way through Congress.
- [70:58]
PFT Commenter
I, I do think that will be used. I don't think it would be used in high profile, like, first round stuff.
- [71:03]
Miny
Right.
- [71:03]
PFT Commenter
I definitely think it would be used in like a late, like, because you know how there's the.
- [71:09]
Dan
If an agent tells a guy, hey, I think I put a, like second, third round grade on you. That's what I'm hearing.
- [71:14]
Miny
Yeah.
- [71:15]
Dan
And they get picked in the last round.
- [71:16]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [71:17]
Dan
I could definitely see them saying, no, I'll go back to school.
- [71:20]
PFT Commenter
And there's some guys who, like in the seventh, who get drafted in the seventh round actually wish they didn't get drafted because they don't get to pick where want to go. So if you get drafted seventh round, you're like, it, I'll go back to school and make money.
- [71:30]
Miny
Right.
- [71:31]
Dan
The worst spot to get drafted is. It's not Mr. Irrelevant, because at least you get the parade and you get sponsorships and everyone talks about you. The guy before Mr. Irrelevant is the new Mr. Irrelevant.
- [71:40]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [71:41]
Dan
Because he has to go to one training camp and can't pick where. Where he wants to try out.
- [71:44]
PFT Commenter
Maybe we should sponsor. That's that draft selection.
- [71:46]
Dan
Mr. Irrelevanter.
- [71:48]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah, I like that.
- [71:50]
Dan
Yeah, that's good.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, do we have anything else? Or should you do Hot seat, Cool Throne?
- [71:54]
Miny
Throne.
- [71:54]
PFT Commenter
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- [73:02]
Dan
I got the Blackout berry right here.
- [73:04]
Miny
Oof.
- [73:04]
Dan
Really good.
- [73:05]
PFT Commenter
So good. So hydrate hard with Body Armor Flash IV and grab yours today at your local 711 convenience store. Henry Hot seat, Cool throne.
- [73:12]
Hank
My hot seat is, I mean, it's basically just all, it's, it's a lot of people with the NBA media day was yesterday. Kawhi had some weird answers. He got asked about, you know, the investigation, everything. Was Steve Ballmer, Pablo Torrey also out with another updated podcast this week about more suspicious funds and like all these weird backdoor sponsorships where there's no deliverables, people getting paid to do nothing. And Kawhi's answer was just like, it's a conspiracy.
- [73:41]
Dan
It's click, it never happened.
- [73:43]
Hank
He said, it's a clickbait conspiracy.
- [73:44]
Dan
And credit to Ramona Shelbourn because she just like kept asking the follow up questions. At one point she asked him, what's one example of something that you did for this sponsorship? And he was just like, I mean there's, there's a lot of stuff, but I'm not going to get into details because it's a lot of conspiracies out there about it. And she's like, okay, but like one thing that you did to earn the $49 million or whatever. He's like, you know, there's just a lot of people talking and they're, they're going to get their clicks. I'm just here to play basketball. He I, I think I need to use the word allegedly here. But he's allegedly very, very guilty of everything that Pablo Torres accused and I. I don't. I don't really blame Kawhi.
- [74:25]
Miny
No.
- [74:27]
Dan
He. He wants to get paid money.
- [74:29]
Miny
Yeah.
- [74:29]
PFT Commenter
I don't blame Ballmer.
- [74:30]
Dan
And if somebody offers. Listen, the Clippers have offered no show jobs in the past to James Harden.
- [74:35]
Miny
Yeah.
- [74:35]
Dan
But this is. It's an. It's more unfair in terms of the competitive balance if your team isn't doing this.
- [74:43]
PFT Commenter
This is so.
- [74:43]
Hank
So Pablo seems like they're going to cover. Ma is going to cover it up, because I think there's a lot of team.
- [74:48]
PFT Commenter
Right. So Pablo's investigation is great, and I believe, like, all the work he's done, but I also just keep having the feeling of, I wish my owner did that.
- [74:57]
Miny
Yeah.
- [74:58]
PFT Commenter
Like, I think most fans have that. Like, it's not, how could the Clippers do it? It's more like, hey, Jerry Reinserve, can you start paying people off the. You know, under the table?
- [75:06]
Miny
Yeah.
- [75:07]
PFT Commenter
And then the NBA can figure. You're right. NBA does feel like the Clippers should. I think I said this, like, when this first came out. The Clippers are going about this the wrong way. Like, Ballmer going and defending himself. Kawhi saying clickbait. What the Clippers should do is just burn the whole fucking thing down. Just be like, this team, this team, this team, they all did it, too. Just fucking take everyone down with you. Because they're not going to be able to suspend everyone.
- [75:33]
Miny
Right. Yep.
- [75:34]
Dan
I also like the fact that both Ballmer and Kawhi Leonard are going the. They actually conned me route.
- [75:40]
Miny
Yeah.
- [75:40]
Dan
And Kawhi's like, they owe me money.
- [75:42]
PFT Commenter
I'm the victim.
- [75:42]
Dan
I don't know.
- [75:43]
Miny
They're.
- [75:43]
Dan
They're frauds. So I Listen, they. I'm a victim just like anybody else.
- [75:47]
PFT Commenter
In this case, what was the most shocking. Oh, that guy's on that team now.
- [75:52]
Hank
Kevin Durant.
- [75:53]
PFT Commenter
Kevin Durant.
- [75:53]
Miny
Yeah.
- [75:54]
PFT Commenter
I was gonna say Chris Topps.
- [75:56]
Miny
Yeah.
- [75:56]
PFT Commenter
Didn't realize he was on the Hawks.
- [75:57]
Dan
Yeah, I forgot about that.
- [75:59]
PFT Commenter
Also, Chris Paul just looking like Gilly. So old. Like, the most washed anyone's ever looked is Chris Paul. I think it's because he shaved his head fully.
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Miny
Yeah.
- [76:11]
PFT Commenter
That was a shocking one.
- [76:13]
Memes
Kevin Love.
- [76:14]
PFT Commenter
Kevin Love on the Jazz.
- [76:17]
Miny
Whoa.
- [76:19]
Dan
That's weird.
- [76:20]
Memes
He said they're gonna call Monks.
- [76:23]
Miny
Yeah.
- [76:24]
Hank
Warriors. Sad.
- [76:25]
Dan
LeBron saying this may be his last media day.
- [76:29]
PFT Commenter
Oh, of course. Wow. Kevin Love on the Jazz.
- [76:32]
Hank
LeBron's definitely starting.
- [76:34]
Dan
Got a little gray ghoster tag in him.
- [76:36]
PFT Commenter
LeBron starting another league.
- [76:38]
Miny
Yeah. Okay.
- [76:39]
Hank
I mean, the Saudi, that's. I was going to talk about a cool throne. But the EA Sports sold for $55 billion.
- [76:45]
PFT Commenter
What happened there?
- [76:47]
Hank
They sold for $55 billion.
- [76:50]
PFT Commenter
To who?
- [76:51]
Hank
To the PIF and like Jared. Jared Kushner Company.
- [76:56]
Miny
Yeah.
- [76:56]
PFT Commenter
They're just buying that.
- [76:57]
Dan
It's.
- [76:58]
Miny
Yeah.
- [76:58]
Dan
Saudi Arabia now, now owns EA sports and 55 billion. They're taking it private so they can do whatever they want with it.
- [77:06]
PFT Commenter
Let me hold the bill.
- [77:07]
Dan
So now there's going to be like it. They are just completely sports washing everything.
- [77:13]
Miny
Yeah.
- [77:13]
PFT Commenter
They're doing like. They're unbelievable.
- [77:14]
Dan
They're trying to find every way to reach anyone under the age of 40 in America and then make them think that Saudi Arabia is a cool place.
- [77:23]
PFT Commenter
Really cool guys chill people.
- [77:24]
Miny
Yeah.
- [77:26]
Hank
What Hank think 55 billion?
- [77:29]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
- [77:30]
Dan
Paid a premium.
- [77:31]
PFT Commenter
Who is there? Who owns EA Sports? Who did own esports?
- [77:37]
Dan
I'm not sure.
- [77:38]
PFT Commenter
One guy who just made off with like 20 bill.
- [77:40]
Dan
I'm not sure who actually sold it.
- [77:41]
Hank
Publicly traded company since 1990.
- [77:43]
Dan
But I don't know who the CEO was.
- [77:45]
Hank
The largest all cash sponsored private investment in history.
- [77:49]
Dan
Yeah. So they're taking it completely private. Going to be off the stock market.
- [77:53]
Miny
It.
- [77:53]
PFT Commenter
That's crazy.
- [77:55]
Dan
And yeah, Saudi, they just have enough money and they're smart because they know that the fossil fuels that they sell, that's not going to last forever. There's only so many dead dinosaurs that they, they can dig up. So they're trying to diversify all their funds and make sure that they're going to be rich as for the next hundred years as opposed to just the next 50 years. And there's not a lot that we can do about it.
- [78:15]
Miny
No.
- [78:15]
Dan
Because if they offer somebody 5 billion. A million dollars to do a 30 minute stand up set, they're going to do the 30 minute stand up set.
- [78:24]
Miny
What?
- [78:24]
Hank
How much for one off pod?
- [78:26]
PFT Commenter
We've already said we would do. We will do this pod. Just personally do this pod for $100 million.
- [78:31]
Dan
$100 million is my price for everything.
- [78:33]
PFT Commenter
We'll take it offline and we'll just do the pod one.
- [78:35]
Hank
We'll just wait more than that.
- [78:38]
Dan
No. $100 million. I will do anything.
- [78:41]
PFT Commenter
You think we got to do more than that.
- [78:43]
Dan
I will be a very shade for it. I'll be a very principled man when it comes to Saudi Arabia. I turned down some live money.
- [78:49]
PFT Commenter
200 million, 300 million. Stop me.
- [78:53]
Miny
Where?
- [78:53]
Hank
55 billion. I think we could get at least a Billy.
- [78:57]
PFT Commenter
You think we get a billion for barn my take? I don't think so. But they want to.
- [79:02]
Hank
I mean, what the Kelsey brothers get, like, 200 million?
- [79:05]
PFT Commenter
I don't know. Okay, well, hit us up. Hit our line. Although the Saudis might be mad at.
- [79:11]
Dan
Me, I. I just know.
- [79:13]
Max
You us. You us.
- [79:17]
Dan
I just know that no matter how much money they paid me, at some point I would. I would make a joke about a journalist, and then. And then they'd be like, okay, well, now you have to. We got to cut your throat out.
- [79:28]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but the money.
- [79:30]
Dan
But the money.
- [79:31]
PFT Commenter
You always get a new throat.
- [79:32]
Dan
I mean, they could do. They could have their public beheading guy chop your pinky off.
- [79:36]
PFT Commenter
Done. Oh, that one. 100 mil. That's fair. Pinky for 100 mil.
- [79:43]
Miny
Okay.
- [79:44]
Hank
Your cool turn also. Lonzo ball said that was my cool turn. Okay.
- [79:47]
PFT Commenter
No, no, you can do it.
- [79:48]
Miny
It.
- [79:48]
Hank
He just said he didn't know Cleveland had water, which. Relatable.
- [79:51]
PFT Commenter
Very funny.
- [79:51]
Dan
I like that. He didn't know it had water.
- [79:53]
Miny
Yeah.
- [79:54]
PFT Commenter
I think he means a lake, but.
- [79:56]
Miny
Yeah. Got it. Okay.
- [79:57]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I. I think he knew they had water, but he said he was walking around, and he. He saw there's a big lake right there.
- [80:04]
Miny
Yeah, yeah.
- [80:05]
Max
I'm on his side on that.
- [80:06]
Hank
I remember the first time we went to Wisconsin, and we were, like, looking at the lake, and I was just like, madison.
- [80:12]
Miny
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [80:15]
Max
I drove through Cleveland once, and I, like, spent the night there, driving from the east coast to Chicago, and I, like, stayed on, like, a hotel on the lake, and I was like this. I. Cleveland's a lot nicer than people say. Like, it looks. It looks nice.
- [80:28]
PFT Commenter
Great Lakes are great.
- [80:29]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
- [80:33]
Hank
My cool throne is New York baseball teams inexplicably keeping their manager after bad year.
- [80:39]
Dan
Oh, why would happen.
- [80:40]
Hank
The Mets are sticking with their guy Carlos Mendoza.
- [80:44]
PFT Commenter
Okay, memes, not to pile on, but what'd you think about Steve Cohen tweeting like. Sorry.
- [80:52]
Memes
It's fine. I. The thing I don't like is that graphic.
- [80:55]
PFT Commenter
Which one?
- [80:56]
Memes
Thank you, fans.
- [80:57]
PFT Commenter
Oh, that was.
- [80:58]
Miny
Yeah, yeah.
- [80:59]
PFT Commenter
Like, come on, you got to know your market. Like, the. Thank you, fans is something that you can. You can put out in, like, Kansas City.
- [81:08]
Miny
Mm.
- [81:08]
PFT Commenter
Or, you know, Colorado.
- [81:10]
Dan
It's a bunch of fans cheering.
- [81:12]
PFT Commenter
You can't do that for New Yorkers. They're gonna. They're gonna fucking freak out, which rightfully so. Okay, good job. Pft.
- [81:23]
Dan
Hank took two of mine. Yeah, good job, Hank. So I'm just gonna do my cool throne.
- [81:30]
Miny
Okay.
- [81:30]
Dan
Cool throne is ice cream.
- [81:31]
Miny
Sure.
- [81:32]
Dan
Because Cincinnati is Raiders ice cream. It came out with Cincinnati Chili flavored ice cream.
- [81:36]
Miny
Nope.
- [81:37]
Dan
And I'm gonna try to get them to send some soft serve.
- [81:39]
PFT Commenter
Nope. We're not putting that in the machine. Yeah, no, we're not.
- [81:42]
Dan
I think.
- [81:42]
PFT Commenter
I think not putting that in the machine. I think we're not putting that.
- [81:45]
Dan
If the Reds win. If the Reds win the World Series, it goes in the soft surface.
- [81:49]
PFT Commenter
That's fair.
- [81:50]
Miny
That's fair.
- [81:50]
Dan
Okay. That's fair.
- [81:52]
PFT Commenter
And if they don't win the World Series, you got to put chili. You got to boof. Chili.
- [81:55]
Max
You have to make your own chili ice cream.
- [81:57]
PFT Commenter
You got to put it up your butt. I got a butt funnel.
- [81:59]
Dan
Butt funnel.
- [82:00]
PFT Commenter
Butt funnel chili.
- [82:02]
Dan
I. I actually think. I think that chili might not be the worst thing to butt funnel, I guess done if. No.
- [82:09]
Miny
Yeah.
- [82:09]
PFT Commenter
Poison.
- [82:09]
Dan
If you had to choose. If you had to choose a food, I think that chili is top three for what you'd have to butt funnel.
- [82:16]
Miny
Yeah.
- [82:16]
PFT Commenter
I mean it. I could see. I can see where you're coming on that. It'd be so hot.
- [82:19]
Miny
Yeah.
- [82:20]
PFT Commenter
Well, no, I wouldn't have.
- [82:21]
Dan
I wouldn't, like, heated up before.
- [82:24]
Brandon Walker
You're gonna eat.
- [82:25]
Max
Wait, you're gonna eat.
- [82:26]
Dan
Chili's almost cold. Ch on. Yeah, no, I think you heated up to 98.6 degrees body temperature. And the consistency of it. It's like that. Mashed potatoes. No, probably that. That would get stuck.
- [82:39]
PFT Commenter
Heating it up to 98.6. That's hot.
- [82:42]
Dan
That's body temperature.
- [82:43]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, but that would be hot.
- [82:44]
Dan
I think you would.
- [82:44]
PFT Commenter
It would be hot to touch.
- [82:46]
Dan
No, I think you wouldn't even feel it.
- [82:48]
PFT Commenter
No, definitely not. What are you talking about?
- [82:50]
Brandon Walker
No.
- [82:50]
Miny
Yeah.
- [82:50]
PFT Commenter
Now that I'm thinking 98.6 degrees, if you have a cup of water, that's 98.6 degrees, that's hot water.
- [82:55]
Dan
That would be the exact same sensation as, like, actually getting in your body.
- [82:59]
Miny
Yes.
- [82:59]
PFT Commenter
That's a hot.
- [83:00]
Dan
Let's eat this up to skin temperature so it feels nice.
- [83:02]
Miny
Yeah.
- [83:03]
PFT Commenter
Think about when it's 98 degrees out. You're not like, oh, this is the perfect temperature.
- [83:07]
Miny
Yeah.
- [83:07]
Dan
No, I think, like, probably what, upper 70s when you get in the ocean.
- [83:12]
Miny
Yeah.
- [83:13]
PFT Commenter
Caribbean, 98 degrees. Getting in the ocean, it's like. It's kind of hot.
- [83:16]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah. All right.
- [83:18]
Dan
But yeah, I'm excited about playoff baseball. The Reds, they got a tough task.
- [83:22]
Miny
Yeah.
- [83:22]
Dan
Going to la.
- [83:23]
Miny
Yeah. All right.
- [83:25]
PFT Commenter
My hot seat is Rory. Rory's getting kind of dragged a little bit because of. He had some comments about the fans, and then obviously he was chirping the Bryson DeChambeau. That whole video that went out also, he tried to get a fan kicked out. The fan did use a slur. Where do you guys stand on Rory? Was he soft? Because it is a little bit. There was a lot of. The fans were brutal. The fans were bad. I feel like you can't. You can't be like, the fans are bad, but also be screaming fuck off to the fans.
- [83:58]
Miny
Right.
- [83:59]
Dan
Well, did they.
- [83:59]
PFT Commenter
I think.
- [84:00]
Hank
I mean, when they're going to like, wife and personal shit.
- [84:02]
PFT Commenter
Agreed on that.
- [84:04]
Hank
I think you could be like, off and then also be like, they were bad. Yeah, I don't. I don't think.
- [84:08]
PFT Commenter
But then do you think there's anything to be said about him, like, covering up Bryson's name and, like.
- [84:13]
Hank
No, I think that's what we like, isn't it?
- [84:16]
PFT Commenter
I like it. But I'm saying he also was like, you guys were. Went too far. And then he's kind of gloating going too far.
- [84:24]
Dan
I think that Bryson.
- [84:25]
Hank
The Bryson thing is separate. The Bryson was like, chirping them before the tournament, being like, I hope we play. Yada, yada, yada.
- [84:31]
Miny
Yeah.
- [84:31]
Hank
So him going up like, that's. Bryson took not shots, but was like, you know, coming at him a little bit before the Ryder Cup. So it was like a fair. Especially with the pioneer stuff. It's like a fair. I didn't think that was just like, he happened to be standing over and was like, oh, look at this.
- [84:48]
Brandon Walker
Okay.
- [84:48]
Dan
I think that you can say, off.
- [84:49]
Hank
To the victors go the spoils. I think it's like, yeah, no, but.
- [84:53]
PFT Commenter
I agree with that. 100. But he also was, like, very sanctimonious of like, this is too. Everyone went too far.
- [84:59]
Dan
You can think did though. You can fight fire with fire. And, yeah, you can fire back at them with the same things that they hit you with. But if someone hits you with a slur, you can't go back at them.
- [85:08]
Miny
Right.
- [85:09]
Dan
Like, the only thing that you can do is be like, hey, that guy's saying slurs.
- [85:12]
Miny
Yeah, The.
- [85:12]
PFT Commenter
The white.
- [85:12]
Dan
Was it an anti Irish slur?
- [85:14]
PFT Commenter
No, it was anti. It was a pro English cigarette slur.
- [85:19]
Dan
Got it. Yeah, got it.
- [85:21]
Miny
Okay. And.
- [85:21]
Dan
Yeah, so Rory probably can't.
- [85:23]
PFT Commenter
No.
- [85:24]
Dan
Or he could and just be like, I'm talking about.
- [85:26]
Miny
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [85:27]
Dan
Like, get. I'm sick of all the cigarette smoke. Get all these cigarettes out of here.
- [85:31]
PFT Commenter
I'm not the biggest Rory fan. But yeah, I mean, he. He does get to celebrate anyone he wants.
- [85:37]
Miny
Yeah.
- [85:37]
Hank
He also had the best year of all Time. It's, like, tough to. You know.
- [85:40]
PFT Commenter
Well, Scotty, I would take.
- [85:42]
Hank
I think I'd take Rory's year.
- [85:44]
Miny
You would what?
- [85:45]
PFT Commenter
Scotty won everything.
- [85:47]
Hank
Rory, when the Masters, the players won at Pebble.
- [85:52]
PFT Commenter
What did Scotty win?
- [85:54]
Max
But he hit the career Grand Slam, too.
- [85:56]
Dan
That's.
- [85:56]
Miny
Yeah.
- [85:56]
Max
That's.
- [85:57]
Hank
Anyone. In a way. Ryder Cup. Which, like.
- [86:00]
Miny
Okay.
- [86:01]
PFT Commenter
I don't really count the Ryder cup.
- [86:02]
Dan
As anything because we lost exhibition.
- [86:06]
PFT Commenter
I will say. So my cool throne is. Or. Sorry. This is actually my. I have double hot seat. It's me. And I need your help, Hank, because I did tweet out on Monday morning, it was hard for me to hate the European team because I saw the clip of them in the bus when they were doing the song.
- [86:24]
Miny
No, no, no, no.
- [86:26]
PFT Commenter
Europe's on fire.
- [86:28]
Brandon Walker
USA is terrified.
- [86:30]
PFT Commenter
Europe's on fire.
- [86:31]
Miny
USA is terrified.
- [86:33]
PFT Commenter
They're so good a chance. I love Tommy Fleetwood. I don't think I have. It goes back to what we were saying on Sunday. Like, the European team feels like they're just, like, best friends. And Team USA never has that vibe. And. I don't know. I just. I can't hate them that much.
- [86:49]
Dan
You know? What sucked is the fact that we were. We were favored going into this Ryder Cup. I think it'd be way easier to be like. It's always easy to root for the U.S. if they're underdogs.
- [86:56]
Miny
Yeah. Right.
- [86:57]
Dan
But the U.S. yeah, but underdogs. But it makes people root. Like, we love an underdog story.
- [87:03]
Miny
If.
- [87:04]
Dan
If Europe. And they probably should have been favored going to this Ryder cup if they were favored. I think everybody had been like, wait, it would be way easier to get behind the US Guys. Even the ones you don't really like that much.
- [87:15]
Max
They were just favored because everyone wants to bet on the U.S. right.
- [87:19]
Hank
No, it's home.
- [87:20]
PFT Commenter
Home teams don't lose at home.
- [87:22]
Miny
Yeah.
- [87:22]
Hank
Except for us.
- [87:24]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
- [87:27]
Dan
Europe's on fire.
- [87:29]
PFT Commenter
USA is terrified.
- [87:31]
Miny
Europe's on fire. USA is terrible.
- [87:35]
Dan
Who wrote that song?
- [87:38]
PFT Commenter
It's. It's Freed from desire by. I'm ashamed to say that I did listen to it. I mean, it's just when. Oh, that.
- [87:44]
Hank
That song is. I mean, it's.
- [87:46]
PFT Commenter
It's like when you have an awesome song and everyone's partying and on a bus and the vibes are the highest they could possibly be. It's really hard. Free from desire by gala.
- [87:55]
Dan
Who gets the Ryder Cup? Do they share it? Do they pass it around?
- [87:59]
Miny
I don't know. They also.
- [88:01]
PFT Commenter
Do.
- [88:01]
Dan
You get a day with It.
- [88:02]
PFT Commenter
Happy birthday to Frankie. Frankie Fleetwood. That was awesome. I did not see the whole fucking team.
- [88:07]
Miny
Yeah.
- [88:07]
PFT Commenter
Singing Happy Birthday to him. All right, here, here. I'll come back with one thing.
- [88:13]
Hank
They all live in America.
- [88:14]
Miny
That.
- [88:14]
PFT Commenter
That and we. It's Sepstraka. That's not fair. You have a Southern accent.
- [88:20]
Dan
Yeah, yeah, he's a Georgia.
- [88:22]
PFT Commenter
When I heard him talk, I was just like, this is crazy.
- [88:24]
Dan
He's a Georgia guy. Although I. I like what his friends said about him because he. He grew up saying he was 50 Austrian. 50American. They're like, nop. No. You're 100 Austrian and you're 100American.
- [88:34]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I guess the name. The name, I. I can't even get back. I can't even looks at the Sepstraka name.
- [88:40]
Dan
Even looks like an American.
- [88:41]
Miny
Yeah.
- [88:42]
Dan
He's a big boy.
- [88:42]
Miny
Yeah.
- [88:44]
PFT Commenter
But, yeah, I don't. I can't. Do you. Do you agree with me, Hank? Like, it's hard to hate the European team.
- [88:50]
Miny
Yeah.
- [88:51]
PFT Commenter
Who's hateable?
- [88:51]
Dan
I think you can hate Rory.
- [88:53]
PFT Commenter
I. Yeah, I don't like Rory. But the rest of the team, it's like, I don't really have an opinion. And I love Tommy Fleetwood.
- [88:58]
Hank
I like a lot of those.
- [88:59]
PFT Commenter
And I like Justin Rose.
- [89:00]
Dan
I like Hatton.
- [89:01]
PFT Commenter
Justin Rose walking in. That putt was the most badass thing ever.
- [89:04]
Dan
That was disgusting.
- [89:05]
Miny
Yeah.
- [89:05]
PFT Commenter
Hatton Lowry. Those guys are just.
- [89:07]
Dan
They're good.
- [89:07]
Miny
Yeah.
- [89:09]
Hank
John Rom.
- [89:10]
PFT Commenter
John Rom. I like John Rom. Damn it, Patrick.
- [89:14]
Hank
Awesome. Recurring guest.
- [89:15]
PFT Commenter
It just feels like we're. We're meant to hate these guys. And it's like, I don't. It's not. It's not like, usa, Canada, when we play in, like, the Olympics in hockey, where it's like, I'm gonna. I. I really, you know, feel some kind of way.
- [89:27]
Miny
I don't know.
- [89:28]
PFT Commenter
It's just. I guess I gotta. I gotta find a way to get some hate up for the golfers.
- [89:32]
Dan
Why don't they ever do scramble in the Ryder Cup?
- [89:34]
PFT Commenter
That'd be so sick.
- [89:35]
Hank
Because it would just be a birdie. Birdie.
- [89:37]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it already was. Keegan fucked up the course.
- [89:43]
Hank
Scramble Would not be fun.
- [89:44]
PFT Commenter
Shane Bacon. I saw our friend Shane Bacon was doing his show, cbs, on golf, and he was. He was like, that was the worst course setup ever. It was, like, the least exciting golf because everyone just got birdies and everyone could hit every single shot.
- [89:57]
Miny
Yeah.
- [89:57]
PFT Commenter
Like, they're spinning balls off the rough like that. Just crazy. So we up. Zach. Hot. Sean.
- [90:06]
Zach
My hot seat this week is going. I'm gonna have to put myself in the hot seat this morning. I may have committed like a cardinal co worker sin by mistake.
- [90:14]
PFT Commenter
Oh, boy.
- [90:15]
Zach
Which is not good. And I would like to apologize to a few people.
- [90:18]
Hank
Microwave fish.
- [90:19]
Zach
It's. I did not do that. That is also a sin. Nobody should microwave fish. But I got here around 8, 8:15 this morning. I was excited to start the day. I was like, we're. Have a good show. Good day. Put my stuff down, go out like, all right. We'll get the ice cream situation situated early. You know, we'll get everything flipped, all the cones stocked. And then immediately as soon as I'm on the other side of the court getting the machine down, truck siren goes off across the building. And I instantly knew that it was one of the several alarms that I set on my phone. And like, there's people at desks trying to get early work done, trying to get dialed, and I couldn't have sprinted faster to the other side. They tried to be. They were outwardly understanding, but I know I just ruined many mornings.
- [91:05]
PFT Commenter
Wait, so it was at your desk.
- [91:07]
Zach
I left the phone here. And then I was the furthest you can be from this corner desk.
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PFT Commenter
Your desk is like right by where a lot of people are working. Can we hear them? Very hard. Hear the phone alarm.
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Zach
I can play it also.
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Dan
What time was this?
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Zach
This was 8:15.
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Miny
Okay.
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Zach
So like, the people working are just dialed in. There's not many people moving and shaking.
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Dan
And everyone looks over because that's very clearly an alarm that you set to wake up in the morning.
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PFT Commenter
And it takes you 15 seconds to run away over to turn it off.
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Zach
Maybe 25. I'm not. I got short legs. But I did do the best I could. I felt so bad.
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PFT Commenter
It was.
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Zach
Yeah, it was terrible. Coworker move.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, let's hear the alarm.
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Zach
I'm not sure if I'll be able to. All right, maybe I can.
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PFT Commenter
You just set it again for.
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Zach
Oh, set it for like 11:01.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, set it for.
- [91:52]
Miny
Yeah. All right.
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PFT Commenter
Do your cool throne and just set it and forget it for a minute from now.
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Dan
Zach, are you a. Set a new alarm every time? Guy, are you a. Use your old alarms that you already have? I'm repurpose them.
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Zach
I. I hit. I just hit the button every morning. So then you have. You just have like a list and you hit.
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Miny
You.
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Zach
You go down, you fly the list down all on.
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Max
Don't forget, people be mad at you.
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Zach
And then you gotta turn them off.
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PFT Commenter
When you wake up.
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Dan
Yeah, I've got. I think I have maybe 30 different times that are set for alarms right now. And so I just pick one that's close to whatever I need.
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Miny
Need.
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PFT Commenter
I have next day, I have just two. I just have an AM and a pm.
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Miny
If I ever.
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PFT Commenter
If I nap, I'll. I'll add a pm. That's. That's it.
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Max
Do you edit?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, I edited every morning. I edit every night. But I just have two alarms and I just. Before I go to bed, I change it.
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Miny
The am.
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PFT Commenter
And then whenever I am able to catch a nap, I'll use the pm.
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Max
I don't trust one alarm. I always do like four or five.
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Miny
Really? Yeah.
- [92:52]
Max
Just in case.
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PFT Commenter
I guess I'm also different. My kids will wake me up anyway.
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Dan
All my titles for alarms are like a little time capsule in the past.
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PFT Commenter
Look at me.
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Dan
I've got past memories.
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PFT Commenter
Memes. That was so many alarms.
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Memes
Yeah, I got like.
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Max
The mics were.
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Memes
The mics were off. You got. You got to do it again.
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PFT Commenter
You gotta do it again.
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Miny
It did.
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Max
It did scare me a little bit though.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Look, I have two alarms. AM and PM memes. That was like a thousand.
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Dan
How many memes you have? More than this. I think I have like 40.
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PFT Commenter
He's got memes. Had like.
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Memes
So it looks like I have one every 15 minutes for the whole day till. Yeah, no, 11:38pm is the final one.
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PFT Commenter
That's crazy. So you just.
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Miny
What?
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PFT Commenter
What does that do? What?
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Memes
I just always have it. Want to take a nap? You just set an alarm?
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Dan
Yeah, I've got 36. 36 different alarms and some I very clearly gave labels to back in like 2012.
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Max
Yeah, my most common one is just email Chestnut because for some reason I needed to email Joey Chestnut.
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Miny
Like.
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Max
That'S the 8am one and I. I think I need it.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, there it is. Oh, that's brutal, Zach.
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Miny
That.
- [94:05]
Zach
Yeah, I did that to people at.
- [94:06]
PFT Commenter
Their desk this morning and I feel terrible.
- [94:08]
Zach
I wish I could be a one alarm guy. I just. In full transparency, I'm not there.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, someday.
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Dan
Oh, I just had an alarm go off right now. I made a reminder for myself a few weeks ago. Give ceiling on Commander season. I think you guys asked me that.
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Miny
Oh, okay.
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Dan
Maybe on like the 9th of September. And I said I'd answer you at the end of the month.
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PFT Commenter
So give us the ceiling.
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Miny
All right.
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Dan
So the ceiling on the Commander season. I think at the best, this team is going to be good enough to lose in the second round of the playoffs.
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PFT Commenter
That's the ceiling.
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Dan
I think that's the ceiling.
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PFT Commenter
So the ceiling is. Is. Is the. Is not the NFC championship?
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Dan
I don't think so.
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Max
So you're worse this year than you were last year.
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Dan
The. The final result of the season is going to be worse this year than it was last year.
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Max
That can't. It's one or the other. Because the ceiling last year was higher than the ceiling you just said. So it has to be worse this year that you think that they're worse than they were last year.
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Dan
I think we're. I think we're going to be a better team by the end of the year.
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Max
Then the ceiling have to at least be the same.
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Dan
I think the ceiling is. Is lose in the second round of the playoffs.
- [95:23]
Max
Then you think that they're worse.
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Dan
But we get by the refs. That we should have won.
- [95:29]
Max
That doesn't.
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Dan
Yeah, no, it makes sense.
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PFT Commenter
That is worse.
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Max
It has to be worse. If you think that's the Be. If you think that's the ceiling, then it has to be worse.
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Dan
No, I think we're going to be better football. There's a lot of ways.
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Max
Then the ceiling is the same.
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Dan
The film's going to be better.
- [95:46]
Miny
Better.
- [95:47]
Max
Then the ceiling is the same.
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Dan
We're going to get by the ref.
- [95:49]
PFT Commenter
Ceiling is the roof.
- [95:51]
Dan
So officially not thinking soupy this year.
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PFT Commenter
Does everyone want to do Chargers ceilings real quick?
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Dan
If we beat the Chargers this weekend.
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Max
Ceilings, Ceiling. I'm happy to do ceiling.
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Miny
Okay. All right. All right.
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Dan
Ceiling. NFC divisional loss.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, Zach. Ceiling for the Bucks.
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Zach
I mean, I think second round playoff loss.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, I think it could be. You got to be super.
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Dan
Yeah, you got to be Super Bowl.
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Zach
Retract that.
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Max
You can say Super.
- [96:20]
PFT Commenter
Super Bowl. Yeah, we just jumped.
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Dan
We just jumped over the NFC Championship game.
- [96:25]
PFT Commenter
No, they just won that.
- [96:26]
Zach
We got to go through some guys.
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PFT Commenter
And then we're there.
- [96:28]
Zach
Yeah, straight through them. Don't even mention them.
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Miny
Yeah.
- [96:31]
Max
You are in the game with the Eagles. Eagles obviously are super bowl ceiling.
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Miny
So you.
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Max
You can say super bowl ceiling.
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Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
- [96:37]
PFT Commenter
Max Super Bowl.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Super bowl memes. Seven seed, seven seed playoffs.
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Memes
But the floor is.
- [96:46]
Miny
Yeah.
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Memes
Is dead last.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, that's the floor.
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Miny
Okay.
- [96:50]
PFT Commenter
Oh, we should do floors.
- [96:51]
Miny
Next.
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Hank
I would like to put super bowl appearance, asterisk. That's your ceiling on what happens Sunday night.
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PFT Commenter
That's your seal.
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Hank
I think we're going to shock the world this Sunday.
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Miny
And then.
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Hank
And then it's. Then anything's possible. Okay, but the asterisk, if we get.
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Dan
Smoked, then that'd be lucrative for you.
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Hank
I know.
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PFT Commenter
I think wild card I'm not scared.
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Hank
To support my team in my. In my second year. Quarterback, who I believe in wild card.
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PFT Commenter
Loss is the bear ceiling. That would be an incredible. It'd be incredible season.
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Dan
Be fun. Yeah, Max. Oh, the floor. I don't want to think about the floor.
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PFT Commenter
Ooh, say the floor. It's dark. You want to go floor first.
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Dan
I think the floor is second round playoff loss. Okay, that's what we're going to do.
- [97:47]
Miny
Okay.
- [97:47]
Dan
That's what this team is going to do. Write it down right now. Commanders make the second round. We might even. We might even smoke the wild card team in the first round.
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Max
Is that because Hank just.
- [97:58]
Dan
Just kind of.
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Max
Kind of bullied you into that saying that?
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Miny
What?
- [98:01]
PFT Commenter
With what second year?
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Dan
Oh, I thought he's talking about Big Cat.
- [98:05]
PFT Commenter
He's looking at both of us.
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Dan
Well, the thing about Hank is he's going to change his mind entirely in like four days. So it doesn't matter.
- [98:12]
PFT Commenter
He was fair point after.
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Max
That's a fair point.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Week one, you literally said, we're not going to go. We have no chance of winning eight games because you lost week one. And I do the same thing. But you, you gotta. You can't just. Just pretend that, like, you've always just been confident. Yeah, no, but then you said that you're like.
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Hank
Then your quarterback goes and has the best, you know, best rating out of all the quarterbacks in week. Week three, and it's like. Or week four and. Yeah, anything's possible.
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Miny
Okay. Yeah. You're.
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Dan
You're a film guy for Zach. Graph guy.
- [98:40]
Zach
If we're talking floors are good, these.
- [98:42]
Dan
Graphs are really good.
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PFT Commenter
No injuries involved in floors. No injuries involved in floors.
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Zach
Okay. I think, I think things can get dark quick for any team, so I think floors, like six wins.
- [98:52]
Miny
Whoa.
- [98:52]
Zach
Like, I think it could happen to all. Any of us at any time.
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Dan
But if there are injuries, then you can just be like. That's my. My prediction for the floor did not account injury, so you can't be held account for that.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Max
I'll say wild card loss.
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PFT Commenter
Okay, that's the floor. Floor, floor. Memes zero wins.
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Memes
Max, just picking first.
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Miny
Pick it first.
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Dan
Do you see the stat? Max? That should be your ceiling Shefter just put out.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, that was me.
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Dan
That was mean.
- [99:19]
PFT Commenter
He just said that. That should be your ceiling memes picking first.
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Memes
Yeah, it's rude.
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Dan
Max Schefter just said, through four games this season, the Eagles have been outgained by 327 yards, the fourth worst margin in the NFL.
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Miny
Whoa. Here.
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Max
Here's the thing about that. I don't give a fuck.
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PFT Commenter
What if. What if you start losing, though? Then you'll give a. And the signs are there.
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Lane Kiffin
They're winning.
- [99:44]
Miny
Okay. Okay.
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PFT Commenter
Your floor.
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Hank
Floor. Lowest of the low. Worst case scenario would. Would probably be losing one of the games to the Jets.
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PFT Commenter
So you could hit your ceiling and your floor.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
It would be the first team ever. If you win the super bowl but lose to the jets, just make the Super Bowl. That's ceiling.
- [100:06]
Miny
No.
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Dan
Hank would be the second person to ever do it because I. I could have potentially hit my ceiling.
- [100:10]
Miny
Oh, yeah.
- [100:11]
Dan
At the same time. A few weeks earlier.
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Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
My floor. I'm gonna say four wins. Four wins would be the floor. I think the. Think that would be a pretty big disaster.
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Dan
That's a bad floor.
- [100:24]
PFT Commenter
That's a. But it's a. It's. That's a floor.
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Dan
La floor.
- [100:27]
PFT Commenter
That is a floor. Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Brandon Walker and then Lane Kiffin and then we'll finish off with guys on chicks.
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Dan
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Miny
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Miny
Okay.
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PFT Commenter
We now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. He's a recurring guest. It is coach Lane Kiffin. The Ole Miss Rebels off a big win on Saturday. First of all, congratulations. Huge win.
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Miny
How.
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PFT Commenter
What was the vibe? I saw some of your posts on Twitter. I love that you're active the vibe after the game because it did feel like, I don't want to call it a breakthrough game, but maybe you can say that like where it was like, this is. You guys have arrived before, but this was a game that maybe had eluded you before and then you finally win it. What was the vibe like after the game?
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Miny
Game?
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Lane Kiffin
You know, this may surprise you. I didn't really have that vibe at all, like a breakthrough game, you know. You know, we had the Georgia game here a year ago where I think Georgia was 2 in the country and, and won that game. It's actually same, same announcers. So it was kind of, you know, Molly on the sideline afterwards interview, and it kind of like brought that back to me, but it didn't. It felt like we just played like we, we should in a lot of areas and, and we won't favor in the game. So it really didn't, didn't feel like this monumental win like that, you know, really at all felt like, hey, we were supposed to win. We felt good about a number of matchups in the game and our players made a number of plays in those situations and, and you know, like the, the yardage was so lopsided, you know, I think over 220 yards difference in the game in the third downs. And so outside of penalties and turnovers, there was really kind of a lopsided game that way. So it didn't have that feeling like you just win right at the end, you know, right with a field goal or you get a bunch of breaks that go your way and happen to win.
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Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
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Dan
And then after the game, I'm a big fan of your dog. At least online. Juice is a very good boy. Have you had a word with Juice for tweeting out the picture of the hat that said Brian Kelly can't run the damn ball? I feel like Juice is putting rat poison out there there.
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Lane Kiffin
He's young, you know, he's only like three.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Lane Kiffin
So, you know, like, you can't really mature tell you just mature. And he's not there yet. And in his defense, think about it. This dog's ego is so out of control. Think about it. He does the walk, you know, the champions walk before, and there's whatever, 30,000 fans there yelling his name. Juice. Juice. So I worry about our players and their egos, you know, and everywhere that everybody knows them, but. But they're walking through with a hundred other players. He's the only dog.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Lane Kiffin
All know his name, so that's all he knows. Like, he's got to take pictures with a bunch of fans, you know, before the game and stuff. He gets to tea sometimes, so he really hasn't had really many humbling things in life yet to kind of ground him. So, you know that. That's why he does those things, you know, like right after the game. I mean, come on.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Dan
That had to make you so mad when you saw that your dog tweeted that out and you were like, come on, man. That's the last thing that happened. I need.
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Lane Kiffin
Please stop not running the ball, Brian. Kel, come on.
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PFT Commenter
Is he in the doghouse?
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Lane Kiffin
No, because that's the problem. There's too many people around here that don't discipline him. I try, and then everybody's like, oh, no, it's Juice. He's just a dog, you know, so it kind of. It's. It's an issue, you know, we've created a monster.
- [105:36]
Miny
Yeah.
- [105:36]
Dan
21 years old. In dog years, though, it's maybe old. No.
- [105:40]
Miny
Better.
- [105:41]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, 21. They don't. They don't know anything. I didn't. That's for sure.
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PFT Commenter
That's a fact. I want to talk about your quarterback real quick. Trinidad. He's awesome. And he came from Ferris State. Really cool story when you're getting a guy from a transfer portal from Ferris State. What. What is that process, like, where you're like, hey, are there question marks? Can he play at this level? Because he obviously has proven that he can, but it's got to be a little weird getting a guy from a smaller school like that and stepping up to the sec. It's not like stepping up, you know, one level and then going to the sec. It's Ferris State to the sec. That's pretty crazy.
- [106:18]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah. I think I realized that, like, the first meeting we were in, we're in the quarterback meeting, you know, in the fridge. Has, like, water Gatorades and everything. And he's like, do I need to pay for this Trinidad. It's good, man. You're like, you're gonna get a lot of. A lot of stuff here. You know, you're an SEC on full scholarship. But I love that you just said. It's a good story. I love this story. Think about how many Division 2, Division 3 players there are out there, you know, and here's this kid, like, living the dream and making the most of it. You know, he gets the opportunity to come here. Austin's doing really well playing. And Austin gets hurt, and he comes in, and she was the national player of the year last Saturday. And so, you know, he was going from playing in front of, you know, a thousand people. And so, you know, that that's such such a good story for all the kids striving out there. Like, man, if I work hard, maybe I'll get my chance, you know, like, playing in Division 2, you know, instead of, like, no one's gonna notice me. And here. Here, this guy is to. To motivate so many. So. And it's such a. It's such a great story. Like I said, here's a short little quarterback, a little Ole Miss, you know. You know, playing against Nussmeier and the mighty LSU Tigers.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Lane Kiffin
What a story.
- [107:27]
Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And was there a moment in. In training camp where you're like, okay, we made the right decision. This guy can. This guy can ball. Because I'm sure there was probably a small part of you that was like, we don't know. Like, we. He's. We see that. He's really good, but it is Ferris State, and this is a different level. And was there that click moment where, like, okay, yeah, no, this is. This is going to work out.
- [107:46]
Miny
He.
- [107:46]
PFT Commenter
He can ball.
- [107:48]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah. He really did well in any scrimmage format. Like, whenever we went in the stadium, he just kind of lit it up. You know, some people kind of say, man, that's Trinidad magic going on. And so he really just made a bunch of plays. Kind of had a Baker Mayfield ish, you know, feel to him, running around and keeping plays alive. And it's crazy, you know, somebody in our offense, you know, was joking. They're, like, in our offensive staff, and they're like, you know, Trinidad had more yards than he did one year ago, like, I think this week or something, and they're like, he was playing Roosevelt College.
- [108:23]
Miny
Right, Right.
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PFT Commenter
It's nuts.
- [108:26]
Lane Kiffin
It is. It's. It. But it's.
- [108:27]
PFT Commenter
It's.
- [108:27]
Lane Kiffin
It's a wonderful, like I said, story for so many. So many people to stay motivated, whether you're at a small high school, small college, whatever it is, you never know.
- [108:35]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
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Dan
Was this week weird for you? Was it, Is it weird having like everybody across the country talk about your daughter and your daughter's boyfriend and then you have to answer questions to like, journalists, like 55 year old journalists being like, hey, tell me about your daughter and her boyfriend. That seems, feels like that would be a weird position just as a human being to be in.
- [108:55]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, the first one, a lot of them avoided it, you know, and I remember the first one that asked me was like, hey, I know you've been getting this question all week. And I'm like, no, you're the first one. Most have avoided this.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Lane Kiffin
Football questions. But, you know, I, I just, I think it's great that I've been through so much in my life. Ups, downs and all that. And having had just actually gone through it with the E60 show and having to like, recap all those things, you know, then you're like, you get to a point where you're just like, man, things aren't really that big of a deal. Just embrace them, go with it. And I've now tried to learn to reserve judgment of a situation, like things happening. Oh, this is terrible. Firing, you know, a breakup, a daughter dating a linebacker on the other team. All those things that you might think are terrible, you don't know, they might end up being wonderful things.
- [109:49]
Miny
Right.
- [109:50]
Lane Kiffin
So, you know, I got fired from ufc. I thought my life was over, especially like watching that show and you're on the tarmac and everything. And look, had that not happened, I would have never got a chance to go be with Nick Saban and learn all that, that and all those relationships and, and become a much better coach. So I just embraced it, ran with it, and, and Wit's a great kid, great family. So I look at it as like, hey, how blessed are you that, you know, they're, they're in a good relationship with great people.
- [110:19]
Miny
Yeah, I like that.
- [110:20]
Dan
Be open to the universe. Yeah, it's good advice. Is it, is it everything? Is it a recruiting violation to talk to Wit?
- [110:28]
Lane Kiffin
I don't know. That's a, that's a good question.
- [110:31]
Dan
I don't mean to blow the whistle on you. I was just curious.
- [110:34]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah. After I was like, hey, you know, if you're not going to the NFL, that portal's coming up in here.
- [110:39]
PFT Commenter
But yeah, no, I, I actually, leading up to it, I was like, I, I think Lane Kiffin's the perfect guy to, to handle this because you you immediately took to. To Twitter, and we're having fun with it, and it's like, it's clear it's not bothering him. Everyone assumes the worst of it, and they're like, oh, he's gonna be so bothered. Like, I think he's gonna be fine. And Ole Miss was going to win this game. Did you. Did you feel a little bad that the tempo, though, did make him puke?
- [111:03]
Lane Kiffin
Well, it's funny that you. When you just said that about Lane Kiffin's maybe the one to handle this, I was like, you know, what's that saying? You know, they always say, God doesn't give you things you can't handle.
- [111:11]
Miny
Yeah.
- [111:12]
Lane Kiffin
Probably am the one coach.
- [111:14]
Miny
Yeah. To.
- [111:14]
Lane Kiffin
To put that on the week of the game.
- [111:17]
Miny
Yeah.
- [111:18]
Lane Kiffin
Handle it.
- [111:18]
Miny
Yeah.
- [111:19]
PFT Commenter
And the way you reacted, I was like, he's fine. Like, he's joking about it openly. I think you wouldn't joke about it openly if it was, like, a thing that shocked you. I. I assumed you had known for a while that she was dating him. And, like, I was like, yeah, he's handling it perfectly. But. But the. But the puking, that was a little mean. Shouldn't have done that type of tempo on him.
- [111:38]
Lane Kiffin
Hey, man, we got to win the game, you know, and even though I embraced it and he's a great kid and everything, we might have increased the tempo just a little bit, you know, like, he plays in the first half, you know, see if we can get this guy to throw up, you know?
- [111:51]
Miny
Yeah.
- [111:52]
PFT Commenter
So.
- [111:52]
Dan
So how do you handle the week after? You guys have a season that's ramping up right now, but you're. You're feeling pretty good about yourself. You give the guys any time off.
- [112:01]
Lane Kiffin
We're grinding right now. We got to get better. And that's just not coach speak, man. We turned the ball over, lost the turnover margin, had a ton of penalties, you know, that kept that game closer than it would have been otherwise. So we're back to work. We do have a buy then that next week we'll get on to Washington State. We're actually using these two days to. To work on Georgia, you know, so that we have some prep for that, because that's the game after it. And. And, you know, I've these two advanced guys that are, like, the best football guys ever, and they are, like, the biggest fans of you guys.
- [112:34]
PFT Commenter
Oh, I love it.
- [112:35]
Lane Kiffin
They gotta come say hi, man.
- [112:37]
Miny
Yes. Yeah.
- [112:38]
Lane Kiffin
Fisher, Ray, Sawyer, Jordan, like, the key.
- [112:41]
Miny
Okay. Yeah. Good.
- [112:43]
PFT Commenter
All right, so. So we got a question for you guys, because I' by the way, Love that. Love that. So we, when PFT and I like, travel to college games, we oftentimes see like NFL scouts and they'll, they'll like be like, hey, we love listening to you. And if you guys are true football guys and you know football, why the fuck do you listen to how stupid we sound talking about football? Are there times when you're listening and you're like, God damn it, these guys are dumb?
- [113:09]
Brandon Walker
For me, I kind of like the.
- [113:11]
PFT Commenter
Like the secondary twist on it and.
- [113:13]
Dan
I like laughing and as like it.
- [113:15]
PFT Commenter
Not as serious all the time. Yeah, I, I personally enjoy. I think you guys know ball, though.
- [113:20]
Dan
You guys are ball knowers. That's a red flag that you think that.
- [113:24]
Miny
Yeah, yeah.
- [113:24]
PFT Commenter
Lane, fire him. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
- [113:28]
Lane Kiffin
He's a great guy. Low awareness.
- [113:30]
Dan
Yeah, I love eval. Fisher and Sawyer are great names for advanced scouts at Ole Miss. Yeah, that's perfect.
- [113:38]
Miny
Yeah.
- [113:39]
Lane Kiffin
And great pickleball players. They kind of do everything, think, oh.
- [113:41]
PFT Commenter
Hell yeah, you guys should come to a game.
- [113:43]
Dan
We'll play in pickleball. Staff, baseball.
- [113:45]
Miny
We kind of.
- [113:46]
Dan
We kind of do a lot around here.
- [113:47]
PFT Commenter
Can the stadium handle us and Mincy at the same time? I don't think so.
- [113:51]
Lane Kiffin
We'll kick out these two, want to play Mincy and John Gruden. Two on two, man, I love that.
- [114:01]
Dan
Good matchup. I would just like to see Mincy run.
- [114:03]
Miny
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [114:04]
PFT Commenter
Thank you, boys, for listening. We appreciate it. Still some time.
- [114:09]
Miny
Yeah.
- [114:09]
Dan
Do you guys have any words for Brandon Walker? He's on today's show, too. We appreciate how big of a fan of the program he is. He always seems to know a lot about what's going on inside.
- [114:20]
Lane Kiffin
Who's that? That's the Mississippi. Saturday was in Neyland Stadium.
- [114:28]
PFT Commenter
Oh, no, that was at home. That was a Mississippi State.
- [114:31]
Dan
It was a great loss.
- [114:32]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, exactly. Did you see it?
- [114:34]
Miny
Yeah.
- [114:35]
PFT Commenter
Oh, oh, I see what you're saying. I get it now.
- [114:37]
Miny
Yeah.
- [114:37]
Dan
Yeah.
- [114:38]
PFT Commenter
There were a lot of. There were a lot of Tennessee fans. I think there was.
- [114:40]
Miny
Yeah.
- [114:40]
PFT Commenter
They were getting mad because faculty was selling the tickets.
- [114:43]
Miny
The.
- [114:43]
PFT Commenter
It is funny. You got to watch out for those guys, though, seriously, because we fill people's brains with some really dumb thoughts and you gotta just make sure, like, you maybe have to put them on like a snap count of like, hey, you can only listen to a couple hours this week because all of a sudden you're going to be getting. They're going to be pitching you laterals, fake, punt, punts just all kinds of crazy.
- [115:06]
Dan
Hey, pft.
- [115:07]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I'm all about the lateral, man.
- [115:09]
Dan
We need more laterals. Yeah, yeah, talk to them. I've been saying for like 10 years, the future of. Of offense is the design downfield laterals. I mean, we do the hooky ladders. That's been around for forever. Yeah, but I mean like if you get, if you get a couple defenders running to make a tackle, tackle, you're going to have guys, if they're in open channels to the side, you can hit them 10 yards, take off chunk plays.
- [115:30]
Miny
Yep.
- [115:31]
Lane Kiffin
They've tried to. They have tried to sell me and Charlie Weiss, our offensive coordinator. I didn't even know that you guys talk about this on if they think about like in seven on seven tournaments and the ability to lateral and keep the ball out and the explosive plays created because everybody runs towards it and get out of. Think of a new box of way of thinking. And you'd be a much more explosive offense if you did it that way. And you would tire the defense even more because they'd have to chase you around.
- [115:57]
Miny
Yeah.
- [115:57]
Dan
And what it also does, it makes the guy that if, if you throw it to wide receiver, it makes him more likely to have a chunk play too, because the other defenders are maybe a little hesitant to all swarm on that guy because they don't want to leave a guy. If you watch a lot of rugby, that's like the number one principle of offensive rugby is to make the defenders make a commitment to one guy and then exploit the week weakness. So in a few years when we're up for some head coaching jobs.
- [116:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [116:23]
Dan
We got you to come work for us. Yeah, absolutely.
- [116:26]
PFT Commenter
We'll say that you're the hot name coach. Have you thought about the fake punt punt?
- [116:32]
Lane Kiffin
What?
- [116:33]
PFT Commenter
The fake punt.
- [116:34]
Lane Kiffin
Punt punt. Yeah, you talk.
- [116:36]
PFT Commenter
Okay, so you line up like you're about to punt and then you line up like you're about to punt and then you. And then you snap it to a running back like you're gonna fake it. And then the running back pitches it back to the punter and then he punts.
- [116:51]
Lane Kiffin
Okay. All right.
- [116:57]
PFT Commenter
Yes, yes. It's a fake punt. Punt. Okay, think about it.
- [117:03]
Dan
That we saw Ben Johnson over the weekend. He did the fake flea flicker where the running back kept it after faking the pitch. What about the fake fake flea flicker where he fakes the pitch, then fakes a run, then pitches it back and then punts.
- [117:16]
Miny
Yep.
- [117:16]
PFT Commenter
Pooch punt.
- [117:18]
Lane Kiffin
Oh, like fourth down.
- [117:19]
Brandon Walker
Yeah, like quarterback.
- [117:20]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah, these are all some. There's Some, there's some pretty cutting edge ideas that we've got. I, I know you're a cutting edge guy, so just think about incorporating some of them.
- [117:29]
Lane Kiffin
I, I hear you. I, I don't really punt normally, but.
- [117:32]
PFT Commenter
But if you do.
- [117:34]
Lane Kiffin
If we do.
- [117:34]
Miny
Yeah, yeah.
- [117:35]
PFT Commenter
Give them a, Give them a different look.
- [117:37]
Miny
Look.
- [117:37]
PFT Commenter
Make them kind of them up a little bit.
- [117:40]
Lane Kiffin
Again, if there is a coach to listen to this and possibly do this, you're talking to the right one.
- [117:44]
PFT Commenter
Exactly. Exactly.
- [117:46]
Dan
We can ask you some real football questions, like, what do you think about Paul Feinbaum running for Senate?
- [117:52]
Lane Kiffin
So then that means I don't have to deal with him anymore.
- [117:54]
Miny
Yes.
- [117:55]
Dan
Or maybe deal with him a lot more. I don't know.
- [117:57]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, but not like on the interviews where, you know, you're like interviewing with them and then he just freezes and doesn't say anything. Back.
- [118:03]
Miny
Back. Yeah, yeah.
- [118:04]
Lane Kiffin
Anymore.
- [118:05]
Miny
Yeah, he's out of here.
- [118:06]
Lane Kiffin
I think Paul would be great for that.
- [118:08]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [118:08]
Miny
Yeah.
- [118:09]
PFT Commenter
So give him. You. You're endorsing him, so that's perfect.
- [118:11]
Dan
Mitch McConnell's been doing that for years.
- [118:12]
Miny
Yeah.
- [118:13]
PFT Commenter
You'll freeze the freeze frame on him. What is your, you, you mentioned right there. Not, not just coach speak. When you got into little coach speak, what's the telltale sign of. When you're in. Deep into coach speak and you're answering a question that you don't want to answer and you just hit him with the cliche. What's your favorite cliche to go with?
- [118:32]
Lane Kiffin
I don't do a lot of that, if you follow me. Like, so I usually just say what it is. I probably do that when it comes to injuries, you know, because that's, that's more like protecting advantages, competitive advantages. So that's where I kind of go back to coach speak. When they're like, you know, how's, how's his ankle? You know, and I'm like, they're like, will you play this week? I'm like, like, I really, I really hope he plays this week.
- [118:57]
Miny
Yeah.
- [118:57]
Lane Kiffin
And I just say that about everybody.
- [118:59]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. We're evaluating everything.
- [119:00]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like, it really looks like he might play this week.
- [119:05]
Miny
Yeah.
- [119:05]
Dan
We're taking it one day at a time. He's been very impressive with all his rehab activity. Spent a lot of time with the training staff. They're doing a great job.
- [119:12]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah. Or, or like I, my six year in the Deep south here in Mississippi, I like, I start to like, listen to these things they say down here and they're, they're Actually, way ahead of what you think. So on something like that, we have this guy, Tom Luke, who's been here forever, and I'll ask him a question, and he'll go, yeah, we might. Could, not could. I'm like, what does that. Either yes or no? No, we might could. And I'm like, that's so stupid. Then after a while, I'm like, that's brilliant.
- [119:42]
Miny
Yeah.
- [119:43]
Lane Kiffin
You're really not saying anything that you're held accountable. Mike could.
- [119:46]
Miny
Yeah.
- [119:46]
PFT Commenter
You're just handing them something.
- [119:48]
Lane Kiffin
We get this done on Friday, the day before the game. Yeah, we might Could.
- [119:50]
Miny
Could. Yeah.
- [119:51]
PFT Commenter
He's plausible deniability. He can just be like, I never said I was going to do it. I said, Mike could. Yeah, that is brilliant.
- [119:57]
Dan
Double maybe.
- [119:58]
PFT Commenter
I might start doing Mike could on people.
- [120:00]
Lane Kiffin
You do that on injury. I'm gonna start doing an injury. Hey.
- [120:02]
Miny
Hey.
- [120:03]
Lane Kiffin
Is Austin Simmons playing this week? Yeah, I might could.
- [120:06]
Dan
Yeah, you can. You can also just say that's HIPAA you're asking about. You're asking me to commit a HIPAA violation.
- [120:13]
Miny
Yeah.
- [120:13]
PFT Commenter
Can't talk.
- [120:14]
Dan
Which.
- [120:14]
PFT Commenter
That's against the law.
- [120:15]
Lane Kiffin
Then they made the SEC rule, and then, like, that have to, like, you have to say something. So I think they got around that somehow.
- [120:21]
Miny
Yeah.
- [120:21]
Dan
Do. Do you enjoy living in the South?
- [120:24]
Lane Kiffin
I do. I do. And that was something that maybe right at first, I was a little bit hesitant on compared to, you know, being in Boca, coming from there, and then, you know, the beach in California before that. And so I had to. Took me some time to kind of open up to seeing things differently than what I thought they should look like and what I thought I wanted. And now I love it. I really do. It's awesome.
- [120:50]
Dan
The hard part for me would be. Would be all the, like, fried food and fat and. You look great. Yeah, you look awesome.
- [120:56]
PFT Commenter
Remember last time you came on and I said, you look awesome, and you're like, what? Because you, like. You're just commenting on my looks, but you do look awesome.
- [121:04]
Miny
Yeah.
- [121:05]
Lane Kiffin
Okay, that's getting a little weird.
- [121:07]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, no, you look great.
- [121:09]
Dan
Nice work.
- [121:09]
PFT Commenter
Best shape of your life.
- [121:10]
Miny
Life.
- [121:10]
Lane Kiffin
This is kind of cooler when, like, the female, you know, you know, two guys is a little uncomfortable.
- [121:16]
PFT Commenter
What you mean you.
- [121:17]
Miny
Okay.
- [121:18]
PFT Commenter
You look hot.
- [121:20]
Lane Kiffin
Okay, now I got really weird.
- [121:22]
Dan
This is us fishing for a compliment from you.
- [121:24]
Miny
Yeah.
- [121:24]
PFT Commenter
How do we look?
- [121:25]
Miny
Yeah, you guys look.
- [121:26]
Lane Kiffin
You guys look okay.
- [121:27]
Dan
Okay, pause.
- [121:28]
Miny
Yeah, you're right.
- [121:31]
Lane Kiffin
You're right about the fried food. So, yes, I. I do think I'm, you know, I like to be Different.
- [121:36]
Miny
Different.
- [121:36]
Lane Kiffin
It's kind of been the story of my life. I kind of like to go against the grain and be different. So I'm, like, probably one of the only people ever that moves from, like, South Florida, California, to Mississippi, and then loses a bunch of weight.
- [121:47]
Miny
Yeah.
- [121:49]
Lane Kiffin
You know, like, I remember being here, like, on a Sunday, like, hey, let's go work out. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody works out on a Sunday. It's Lord's day.
- [121:55]
Miny
No.
- [121:56]
Lane Kiffin
No one's at. Gyms aren't open. And so. But they're like, oh, but the buffet line is, you know, let's go to brunch.
- [122:03]
Miny
Yeah.
- [122:04]
Lane Kiffin
And then I noticed every meal was, like, dinner or supper. I think they say here, like, lunches are like, supper, too. And so I just was like, okay, I got to go against the grain on this and just kind of get certain foods and buy into the south, but not into the food.
- [122:22]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
- [122:23]
PFT Commenter
I got a very dumb question for you. Ready? This is the dumbest question you probably will ever get as a coach.
- [122:28]
Miny
Coach.
- [122:28]
PFT Commenter
You wear a visor. Have you ever thought about wearing the visor with the fake hair?
- [122:34]
Lane Kiffin
No, I have not.
- [122:35]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Think about it. That would be awesome if you just came out with, like, blonde hair. It was a fake blonde hair. You know, the ones they sell at gas stations.
- [122:42]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah.
- [122:43]
PFT Commenter
Would be kind of funny.
- [122:44]
Dan
I think Doug Peterson wore those.
- [122:45]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you're thinking about it. I told you it was a dumb question.
- [122:50]
Lane Kiffin
In college, we went back to, like, Tampa, like, out by St. Pete to, like, the beach out there area. And we were like, we're gonna go to, like, this 80s band, you know, like, Stormbringer was their name. And we went to, like, the, like, dollar store and bought, like, clothes, you know, like, that would fit in down there. It's kind of like the Florida beaches, like, on that side over there. And. And I do remember we got, like, the wig deal, the rat tail that you can pin on. Awesome.
- [123:19]
PFT Commenter
Think about it.
- [123:19]
Miny
It.
- [123:20]
PFT Commenter
Think about it. What.
- [123:21]
Miny
What if you did.
- [123:21]
Lane Kiffin
What if you did rat tail for a game?
- [123:23]
PFT Commenter
That would be awesome.
- [123:24]
Dan
That'd be intimidating.
- [123:25]
PFT Commenter
Like, oh, it's a Lane Kiffin rat tail game. What. When did you. When did you realize you were a visor guy? Because they don't make. Visor guys are not, like, They're a different sect. You can't. Not everyone could be a visor guy.
- [123:36]
Brandon Walker
When did you.
- [123:37]
PFT Commenter
When you were officially like, yeah, you know what? I am a visor guy.
- [123:42]
Lane Kiffin
Well, when I grew up, I always. I was always like, like. And this may make a Little more sense now. I was like, I want to be Steve Spurrier.
- [123:50]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [123:51]
Lane Kiffin
Like, when I watched him and his offenses and the visor and kind of the way he would throw jabs at other coaches and teams and stuff, I was like, steve Spurrier is the man. Like, that's what I want to be. So that's where I started the visor thing and probably started some of the comments maybe of other. Other programs, too.
- [124:09]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [124:09]
Miny
Yeah.
- [124:10]
Lane Kiffin
But I thought it was awesome because I thought the players, like, loved it. They're like, we want to go play for Steve Spurrier. Like, he's got our back, you know? So that's really what steered me also away from Coach Speak, too, was just watching Coach Spurrier.
- [124:23]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
- [124:24]
Dan
You talked earlier about Nick Saban and your time that you spent with him at Alabama. Have you thought about doing a similar thing at Ole Miss? Like, if a guy gets fired or a guy loses job, whether it be college or NFL, have you thought about incorporating some of what Nick did for you, for other coaches that might need to get back on the right path?
- [124:45]
Lane Kiffin
Oh, definitely.
- [124:46]
Brandon Walker
We've.
- [124:46]
Lane Kiffin
We've done that now a couple years here and had some coaches that, you know, maybe we're going to take a year off still on contract somewhere, and they came here and. But we've had that happen a lot. Shoot. Joe Judge came here after the Giants and. And now he's our quarterback coach, you know, and his son goes here, so we've got some good stories like that.
- [125:04]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah.
- [125:06]
Dan
So how often do you check the portal as a head coach? Like, do you. Do you do that, like, all the time?
- [125:12]
Lane Kiffin
Well, it's not open now.
- [125:14]
Miny
Yeah.
- [125:14]
Dan
But you never know if you refresh, like, maybe one sneaks through.
- [125:17]
Miny
Yeah.
- [125:17]
PFT Commenter
What if they accidentally opened it for, like, a day and you missed it?
- [125:21]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, we have people on that. Okay, so in the morning, when it's open in the morning, like the stock market, you know, like, you get the update, like, every morning. All right, here's these 16 people that went in. You know, there's these two quarterbacks. You need to go watch these guys, you know, like. So, yeah, we get those updates a lot.
- [125:37]
Dan
When. When you're flipping a recruit and I think you just flipped one a couple days ago. Right cornerback.
- [125:43]
Lane Kiffin
Can't comment on that.
- [125:44]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [125:44]
Dan
Okay. Because that's the coach speak.
- [125:46]
Miny
Okay. I.
- [125:47]
Dan
Allegedly, if you were to be flipping a cornerback, like, how. How do you try to close that deal? How much of it is pro Ole Miss versus Anti. Let's say, hypothetically, a school that starts with the letter M.
- [126:04]
Miny
Yeah.
- [126:04]
Lane Kiffin
Okay. Hypothetically, school that. Oh, keep speeding, Ohio State.
- [126:11]
Miny
Yep. Yep. Yeah, maybe.
- [126:13]
PFT Commenter
Yeah.
- [126:14]
Lane Kiffin
So I would not talk about that school. I would not negatively recruit at all. Not one bit. Because we get negative recruit a lot. And so I always tell them like, like, hey, shouldn't it be a red flag if they're, if the school doesn't have enough to talk about, about themselves that they need to negative talk us? That should be a red flag to you. So I don't do anything, no matter where you're committed, any of that. And I just sell our program. And a lot of times they come to the town, they see the energy, they, they see the style that we play in, and then our players sell it a lot. You know, when they talk to our players and they realize, okay, you just don't win here. You have a lot of fun doing it.
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Miny
It.
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Lane Kiffin
And the coaches and players are really, really close here. I think that's what does it.
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PFT Commenter
That's smart. That's really smart. All right, I got one last question for you, coach. It's always great having you on. We love having you on and being a recurring guest. So Roback? Rho B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take you posted after the game. The quote from Brian Kelly during the week. Do you have a guy specifically that is just looking for bullets and board material for you or you actually seeing it and being like, okay, huh, I'll think about that. I'll put that, I'll file that away.
- [127:29]
Lane Kiffin
No, we get, I get like on my desk like it just happens to be from last week, like Tuesday opponent news. And then there's all like press conferences, player interviews, things they said and stuff like, like. And so that was, that was right there. Yeah, that was. And it actually made our bulletin board like on our screens during the week, like, you know, just to try to motivate guys when, you know, the other coach says, oh, we're going to keep this trophy here. We're looking forward to it. So, you know, I put it on the big screens for everybody to see.
- [128:01]
PFT Commenter
I'd like to offer to you, if you ever are in a week where the other, the opposing team doesn't really give you any bullets in board material, you can text me and we will give you both bulletin board material. We'll trash you guys.
- [128:12]
Lane Kiffin
Yes, planted bulletin board material.
- [128:14]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, just be like, you know, talk up the opponent a little bit Also, I wanted to say thank you for apologizing after the Kentucky game. Do you get in any trouble for that?
- [128:23]
Lane Kiffin
No.
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Miny
Okay.
- [128:25]
PFT Commenter
Well, I appreciate the apology because I did. I did back you guys, and I appreciated that a lot.
- [128:29]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, I just. I just look at things differently, too, and then I feel, like, really bad on a serious note, like. Like when we perform bad, and I feel like, man, I didn't coach or manage a situation or something. I'm like, that's a lot of people you're affecting. Yeah, a lot of people's like, day week, all the fans that drove all the way here to see and everything. So I get really down on myself about it, so I apologize.
- [128:52]
Miny
Yeah.
- [128:52]
Lane Kiffin
You know, like, you know, I should have done better today, and so. And then I spend all off season trying to revenge that in my head of those games to make sure it doesn't happen again.
- [129:02]
Miny
Again.
- [129:03]
Lane Kiffin
Yeah, we had two. We've already had two opponents, Kentucky and lsu, that we screwed up last year. We were ahead of both those games, like, the whole game. Should have totally won both those games and screwed it up and didn't. So it was nice to be able. There's a lot of excitement to be able to play them the next year and be able to come out on the other side for your fans.
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Miny
Yeah.
- [129:21]
Dan
My last question. Do you allow yourself to think about what the ceiling for this team is like? Have you thought about what the ultimate goal is? Like? Do you even say that? Or are you like, we got to win the next game?
- [129:32]
Miny
Game? Yeah.
- [129:33]
Lane Kiffin
I don't say any of that. There. There's too many variables on that. And, you know, people decide who go to the playoffs and all those things and. And. And referees and all that. I. I stay in the week, in the opponent, you know, get to 1 and O. Only during the bye week do we look ahead to try to, like, work on opponents and stuff. But everything is about what we can control, which is practicing and trying to play really well.
- [129:57]
Miny
Yeah.
- [129:58]
PFT Commenter
Well, coach, really, really appreciate you giving us time. Best of luck. Rest of the season, we'll do this again. And, yeah, make sure that Juice, you know, maybe stays off Twitter for a little bit. Maybe ban him for a little bit.
- [130:10]
Lane Kiffin
Okay. All right, guys, have an awesome week. Thanks for having me.
- [130:13]
PFT Commenter
All right. You look great. You look awesome.
- [130:15]
Dan
Really hot.
- [130:16]
Miny
So hot.
- [130:17]
Lane Kiffin
Thank you.
- [130:18]
Miny
All right.
- [130:19]
PFT Commenter
Bye, daddy.
- [130:23]
Dan
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Miny
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- [131:47]
PFT Commenter
Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. Because he complains all the time about not being on the show by himself.
- [131:53]
Brandon Walker
Never have.
- [131:54]
PFT Commenter
That's not true. Maybe a couple times.
- [131:58]
Brandon Walker
Continue the intro, please.
- [132:00]
PFT Commenter
He is our college football expert for at least a few more months.
- [132:05]
Brandon Walker
That is an earned title, sir.
- [132:06]
PFT Commenter
For at least a few more months. He's also the winner of Dingers Only. It is the one, the only Brandon F. Walker.
- [132:12]
Brandon Walker
Two time Dingers only champion.
- [132:14]
PFT Commenter
Two time Dingers only champ. You know, ball.
- [132:16]
Dan
Congratulations. We should also say congratulations to Stephen Che, who lost Dingers Only. He's going to be pitching. And to Zach, who came in second place, which means he'll be catching.
- [132:26]
PFT Commenter
Yes.
- [132:26]
Dan
Quite a combo.
- [132:27]
Brandon Walker
Stinger's only, to my knowledge, the only comp. The only competition in this entire company where the winner gets nothing.
- [132:32]
PFT Commenter
Zero.
- [132:33]
Brandon Walker
Absolutely nothing.
- [132:34]
PFT Commenter
Nothing.
- [132:35]
Dan
You're the Ding. You're the Ding King.
- [132:36]
Brandon Walker
I'm the Ding King.
- [132:37]
PFT Commenter
You're the Ding King.
- [132:38]
Dan
So I didn't want. When Big Cat floated this idea to me, I initially told him no because it sounded too mean.
- [132:46]
PFT Commenter
This is.
- [132:47]
Dan
But we'd like to welcome in. We'd like to welcome in Ben. Men.
- [132:50]
Miny
Oh, yes.
- [132:50]
PFT Commenter
Come on, Miny.
- [132:51]
Brandon Walker
Yeah, well, we know he's not here on a Monday.
- [132:53]
Dan
That's fair point. Listen, he's got. He's got weekend preview stuff to do.
- [132:58]
Miny
Yeah.
- [132:58]
Dan
Last weekend.
- [132:59]
PFT Commenter
All right, Brandon. We are five weeks into the college football season.
- [133:03]
Brandon Walker
We are.
- [133:04]
PFT Commenter
Oh, Penn State.
- [133:06]
Brandon Walker
We are.
- [133:07]
PFT Commenter
Start there. Penn State. Let's start with the Penn State discussion because we had a great Saturday. There were some awesome games. You, unfortunately, have gotten a lot of things wrong, which we'll address all of them.
- [133:17]
Brandon Walker
I've gotten a lot of things right.
- [133:19]
PFT Commenter
Clemson.
- [133:20]
Brandon Walker
I got that wrong.
- [133:21]
PFT Commenter
Alabama.
- [133:23]
Brandon Walker
What did I say about them dead? You had a preseason top 10.
- [133:26]
Dan
You had a funeral for Alabama.
- [133:28]
Miny
Yeah.
- [133:28]
PFT Commenter
Buried him.
- [133:29]
Brandon Walker
That was more T. Bob than me.
- [133:31]
Miny
No.
- [133:33]
PFT Commenter
Penn State.
- [133:34]
Brandon Walker
Penn State's not wrong yet.
- [133:35]
PFT Commenter
Okay. Okay.
- [133:37]
Miny
All right.
- [133:37]
PFT Commenter
But let's talk about Penn State.
- [133:38]
Brandon Walker
Penn State's fascinating, right?
- [133:39]
PFT Commenter
Let's talk about Penn State because Penn State is in a weird spot where they are a very good team every single year. And James Franklin cannot win the big one. He's like owen or like 2 and 700 against the big one. And Penn State fans, it feels like a tipping point where they're like, hey, we want. Obviously, there's a lot of scare. There's a lot of scary moments out there that you can look at being like, hey, you don't really want to change.
- [134:07]
Brandon Walker
Right.
- [134:07]
PFT Commenter
You could have a situation like Nebraska where you just kind of fall off the cliff of an.
- [134:12]
Miny
Or.
- [134:13]
PFT Commenter
Fall off a cliff.
- [134:14]
Miny
Yeah.
- [134:15]
PFT Commenter
A Michigan before Harbaugh got there.
- [134:17]
Brandon Walker
Sure.
- [134:17]
PFT Commenter
When they went from Lloyd Carr and then they went Rich Rod and then Brady Hoke.
- [134:21]
Brandon Walker
And Tennessee has been through it.
- [134:22]
PFT Commenter
Tennessee's.
- [134:22]
Brandon Walker
Florida's going through it.
- [134:23]
PFT Commenter
Florida's going through it. Not everyone can do the Mark Rick to Kirby. Smart train. Where do you think Penn State should go from here?
- [134:32]
Brandon Walker
I think Penn State is absolutely on the. Should stay on the same course. Nothing has fallen off. Nothing has. They haven't bottomed out. They haven't done anything wrong yet. I think Penn State is the most. Everybody in college football is chasing their next opponent, and they're trying to beat their next opponent and beat their schedule. Penn State is the number one team that's fighting a narrative right now that is their biggest opponent. It is not Ohio State. Coming up a couple weeks. It is the narrative that not only James Franklin, but Drew Aller can't do it. Penn State can't do it. None of them can do it. And I think it is fascinating because if you look on the surface, the other night would have been a huge win for Penn State. It would have gotten the monkey off their back. Instead, it just made the monkey much bigger, like a gorilla. Now it's bigger than it has ever been and maybe ever will be. But at the end of the day, they lost to the number two team in double overtime.
- [135:21]
PFT Commenter
Well, they weren't the number two team at the time.
- [135:22]
Brandon Walker
They're number two now. But they lost to a very good team, a playoff team, in double overtime. The way the schedule set up, Penn State's still going to the playoff. Like, everything about the first three quarters told me, James Franklin can't do it. Drew Eller can't do it. And then the fourth quarter happened, Right. So they're in this weird spot where the narrative about them is correct, but they also lost in double overtime after fighting back.
- [135:44]
Dan
So the narrative was correct for three quarters.
- [135:47]
Brandon Walker
Yeah, it was correct.
- [135:48]
PFT Commenter
But they also showed the same game that we've watched many times.
- [135:51]
Brandon Walker
So they also showed some fight.
- [135:53]
PFT Commenter
That was my question. Did Penn State on Saturday. Are we looking at this wrong? Depends. 8 actually break through on Saturday. So we don't even realize it because. Follow me. Max is looking at me like I'm crazy. The first three quarters was the exact same Penn State game we've watched every single time, no matter what, where it's just like. And I actually. There was a moment in that game, 17 to 10.
- [136:14]
Miny
Yeah.
- [136:15]
PFT Commenter
When Penn State had it on goal line. And I was like, here comes the Penn State member of the game against Ohio State last year. Year, they had first and goal and they could not get in. I was like, here it comes. This is going to be the Penn State. They can't get it in. They ran a great play. I think it was. I think it was some motion running back out.
- [136:32]
Max
It was like a shovel.
- [136:33]
PFT Commenter
It was like a shovel pass.
- [136:34]
Miny
Yeah.
- [136:35]
PFT Commenter
Like something a little bit different. Score go to overtime. They might have broken through a little bit. Like, they didn't lose the exact same way they lost in a big game, but they actually had some life and played some offense that we have not seen out of Penn State in these games.
- [136:52]
Brandon Walker
So they didn't break through, but I think they played well enough in the fourth quarter to convince themselves that they can break through.
- [136:58]
PFT Commenter
Okay, so you still think they can break?
- [137:00]
Brandon Walker
I think they can break through. I thought at the other night, again, they lost in double overtime. This is. The defense is elite. The running backs need to be better. The offensive line needs to be better. And Drew Aller Needs to be better. They went out and invested all this money in receivers. Well, where the hell are they? In the fourth quarter they found all these guys.
- [137:14]
PFT Commenter
Yep.
- [137:14]
Brandon Walker
What took you three quarters? I think. I don't know if it's a white out or I don't know if this. They're scared of the narrative or if they're convinced the narrative is correct. It took them three quarters and them seeing their own blood and realizing that they were about to die, that they finally got up, started to fight. I think that convinced them that the next time these two teams played next week, it's a pick them game. Like, I would take Oregon. That's fine. You can do that. But like, Penn State is right there. This isn't a team that gets outclassed when they play these big teams. It's a team that just doesn't do the things to win. There are teams that get to this point. Indiana is a great example last year of a team that won 11 games. But both times they were on the field with an elite team. You saw the difference. Yeah. You don't see the difference with Penn State. They just haven't won them.
- [137:54]
Dan
Yeah.
- [137:55]
PFT Commenter
Broken through.
- [137:56]
Dan
James Franklin disagrees with the fact that there's a narrative out there. He says if I look at the entire picture, I get the narrative. And it's not narrative. It's factual. It's the facts. I get it. So he.
- [138:08]
Brandon Walker
So he knows the narrative is out there, but the narrative isn't a narrative because it's actual facts.
- [138:12]
Dan
It's not. What's the difference in like filmmaking a narrative or a documentary?
- [138:16]
Brandon Walker
So what he just said was, I know what they're saying about me and what they're saying about me isn't true. It's true.
- [138:21]
Dan
It's true.
- [138:22]
Brandon Walker
That's what he just said.
- [138:22]
Dan
It's more true.
- [138:23]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [138:23]
Dan
It's even. It's even more true than we had ever thought.
- [138:26]
Brandon Walker
Right.
- [138:26]
Dan
Or imagined.
- [138:27]
Brandon Walker
You guys are treating it as rumor. It is stone cold fact.
- [138:29]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, it is.
- [138:30]
Miny
You.
- [138:30]
PFT Commenter
You look at the numbers and it is true. I cannot win the big one.
- [138:33]
Dan
The thing I don't like is that he said he didn't think about going for the risk and going for two to win the game. I think they should have. He didn't consider it.
- [138:42]
Miny
You.
- [138:42]
Brandon Walker
You in regulation or regulation.
- [138:45]
Dan
I should have at least considered it to say that, like, consider it.
- [138:48]
Brandon Walker
Fine. But he had all the momentum in the world and then they took a 24:17 lead in the overtime. Like, I think he played it correctly at that point. And they got Oregon down to a fourth and three or fourth and four. It's at that point, if I've got my defense and 111,000 people behind me, yeah, I'm taking my chances with that. I think he played it correctly. It just. Oregon fought through it also.
- [139:07]
PFT Commenter
Go ahead.
- [139:08]
Dan
I was going to say, if we look at the recent history, Ohio State had a loss a lot like this last year, right. And they bounced back from it and they just went on a fuck you tour.
- [139:18]
Miny
Yeah.
- [139:18]
Dan
I don't know that we can say with any sort of conviction that Penn State can do so because we've never seen them do that before.
- [139:23]
PFT Commenter
The only difference is Penn State's problem is they can't beat the, like, best teams. Ohio State's problem is they can't beat Michigan. Michigan wasn't in the playoffs.
- [139:34]
Brandon Walker
Right.
- [139:34]
PFT Commenter
So it didn't. It didn't matter. Like, it's like, oh, we lost to Michigan. Well, guess what? We don't have to play him again. They. Ohio State can beat the top teams. They just couldn't. Can't beat Michigan as of late.
- [139:43]
Brandon Walker
Yeah. Ohio State woke up that Sunday and looked in front of them and said, we have a playoff now. We're not going to have to play the team that just beat us. For Penn State to get to where they need to go, they need to go through the team's blocking.
- [139:52]
PFT Commenter
They have a lot of Michigan.
- [139:53]
Brandon Walker
They have a lot every.
- [139:54]
PFT Commenter
Every top five.
- [139:56]
Brandon Walker
Michigan and Oregon is now.
- [139:57]
PFT Commenter
Oregon's a Michigan.
- [139:58]
Brandon Walker
But again.
- [140:01]
Dan
Was Boise State. Was that a big one?
- [140:03]
Brandon Walker
No, that's last year. It wasn't. It's not fair, though. It wasn't. But it wasn't like they were handed an easy road in the playoff and they took advantage of it. And then Notre Dame was the first one that was like, you can prove it here. And then they. They had Notre Dame and just in the fourth quarter, drew out again.
- [140:17]
Miny
Yeah, yeah.
- [140:19]
PFT Commenter
We should say, by the way, because the game, obviously the narrative is the narrative. And James Franklin pointed out the narrative. Dante Moore is really fucking good.
- [140:27]
Brandon Walker
Really good.
- [140:28]
PFT Commenter
And Dan Lanning is an awesome coach.
- [140:29]
Brandon Walker
He is an awesome coach. But I just want to point this one thing out. They had this gigantic win in October last year when they beat Ohio State 31, 30. And they propelled themselves to number one. And when those two teams met in the playoffs, one was ready and one was not.
- [140:43]
PFT Commenter
They got stomped in the playoffs.
- [140:44]
Brandon Walker
So I'm just. I'm just saying now his. His narrative needs to become do this shit in the playoffs.
- [140:49]
PFT Commenter
Well, he's also early in his narrative.
- [140:51]
Brandon Walker
He is, he is only what, three, four years. But a couple of years ago they had multiple chances to beat Washington and they, they dropped the ball, especially late in the season. That was basically a playoff game for it to get in the playoff and he loses that one. So like he can do it now make sure we do it down the road. He could be, I'm sure it's at some point he will. But right now I think it, it.
- [141:10]
Dan
Helps James Franklin's case that the game was over. Dan Lanning called game, he said game over. Throat slash on him. And then from that point on that, that's when Penn State woke up. So it's like almost like Penn State was 1 and 1 on the afternoon.
- [141:22]
Brandon Walker
I'm not going to sit here and piss on your leg and tell you it's raining. I'm not going to tell you.
- [141:25]
PFT Commenter
Thank you.
- [141:25]
Brandon Walker
I'm not going to tell you that Penn State you have bladder problems. I'm going to tell you that. I'm not going to tell you. Is, is this elite of the elite team and they've proven anything. But I do think fighting back says a lot about him. I agree.
- [141:37]
PFT Commenter
When was the last time you got your prostate checked?
- [141:39]
Brandon Walker
Oh, man.
- [141:40]
PFT Commenter
Because you do have bladder problems.
- [141:41]
Brandon Walker
I don't have bladder problems. I pee a lot. Brandon is a big man.
- [141:45]
PFT Commenter
He's every sign of.
- [141:47]
Dan
You should have a big bladder.
- [141:48]
Miny
Yeah.
- [141:49]
Dan
So how many times a night are you up?
- [141:51]
Miny
Yeah, go ahead, Max.
- [141:52]
Max
I just have one question from the game.
- [141:53]
Miny
Yeah, yeah.
- [141:54]
PFT Commenter
Max was there.
- [141:55]
Max
I was there. I'm not going to be the guy, I'm not going to be a guy to blame the refs, but it is something to talk about.
- [142:00]
PFT Commenter
The fumble.
- [142:01]
Brandon Walker
What are your thoughts on the flame.
- [142:02]
PFT Commenter
The refs that you're talking about? The knee touching, the blades of grass replay. I watched it a hundred times. I still don't know if he was.
- [142:09]
Dan
Down or not grazed.
- [142:11]
Max
So how do you overturn the.
- [142:12]
PFT Commenter
I don't know. I don't know.
- [142:13]
Dan
Yeah, I don't know. You're a big grazing guy. What do you think?
- [142:18]
PFT Commenter
That was mean what he just did. But you have to answer the question.
- [142:20]
Max
He's short.
- [142:21]
Miny
Okay.
- [142:24]
PFT Commenter
All right. So that, that's that game. Oregon is really good. I, I, I was so impressed with Dante Moore because that was his first real road start, you know, in this type of environment. You know, they obviously played Northwestern. That doesn't really count. It felt, you know, as an Oregon duck because obviously he played a couple of years ago. But I was Very impressed with Dante Moore. I think he's a bonafide dude.
- [142:45]
Brandon Walker
He was impressive. And I'll tell you who else was impressive. The bodies they have on defense.
- [142:49]
Miny
Yes.
- [142:50]
Brandon Walker
Like, the big thing about coming to this conference and going east and playing these big established teams that are going to run the football and play defense is physically, you wouldn't expect a West coast team to be ahead of the game physically. Oregon is just beautiful looking on defense. They've got these big, huge defensive linemen that can all run the linebackers like they. They look like Ohio State looks on.
- [143:09]
Miny
Yeah.
- [143:10]
PFT Commenter
And it's actually another game that happened on Saturday. Usc, Illinois, we. The whole narrative going to that game was USA finally beefed him up. Illinois kind of. I know it was a very close game, but Illinois kind of, like, manhandled them at points in that.
- [143:21]
Brandon Walker
Illinois kept them in the game, too.
- [143:23]
Miny
Yeah, they did.
- [143:23]
Brandon Walker
Illinois should have won that game by multiple touchdowns. Great bounce back by Brett Bielema and that team. He's an awesome coach. You didn't expect them to be crappy two weeks in a row. And then for usc, that's another. That's a narrative enforcing thing. We can't go east and win these games, and they can't.
- [143:38]
PFT Commenter
I like this. We're doing narratives. Right. Here's the. Here's the other narrative that happened on Saturday night.
- [143:42]
Miny
Yeah.
- [143:43]
PFT Commenter
Kirby Smart's got a. Got an Alabama problem.
- [143:45]
Brandon Walker
I have no idea how either.
- [143:47]
PFT Commenter
So a couple things. One, that game, it was a great game. They played great games. I think it was the first time that Georgia lost at home.
- [143:57]
Brandon Walker
How long it had been 2019, South.
- [143:59]
PFT Commenter
Carolina, Will Muschamp, wet, wettest coach we've got. Yeah, he was always wet.
- [144:04]
Brandon Walker
You. You agree?
- [144:05]
PFT Commenter
He was always wet.
- [144:06]
Brandon Walker
I'm not sure that I remember him always being wet, but, yeah, we brought.
- [144:08]
PFT Commenter
That up in Debo.
- [144:09]
Brandon Walker
In my mind. He's wet.
- [144:10]
Miny
He's.
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Dan
He's the dampest coach that's ever existed.
- [144:13]
Brandon Walker
There's a lot of damp coaches. What about Sean Miller? I guess that's basketball.
- [144:16]
Miny
Yeah.
- [144:16]
Dan
Everyone's wet.
- [144:17]
Miny
Yeah, that's.
- [144:18]
PFT Commenter
That's totally different.
- [144:20]
Dan
I think Carol is a wet coach, too.
- [144:22]
PFT Commenter
He's a little wet.
- [144:23]
Dan
He's always.
- [144:23]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's got spit, but he's cool wet.
- [144:25]
Brandon Walker
Like, not a sloppy wet.
- [144:26]
Dan
He's like, slick back, slick wet.
- [144:28]
Miny
Yeah.
- [144:29]
Brandon Walker
Riley's wet.
- [144:29]
Miny
Yeah.
- [144:30]
PFT Commenter
Wilson Muschamp is a wet. Like, oh, I forgot my umbrella. Got caught in the rain at the bus stop.
- [144:34]
Brandon Walker
Like, there's not enough towels. There's not enough towels in this room to cover me.
- [144:37]
PFT Commenter
Did you. Were you just swimming in the ocean? Why are you so wet? Kirby Smart, though, I actually do think he's got a little bit of the Ryan Day Michigan issue where it's like, I don't know what happens, but in these games they can beat everyone else. They can't beat Alabama. I thought like, I'm used to Kirby Smart making the necessary adjustments and maybe I shouldn't have been used to it because of what happened the Tennessee game where even though they won that game, Hypo finally broke through in the fact that his offense sustained four quarters against Kirby Smart. I don't understand what Kirby Smart was doing when they're down 24, 21 and he doesn't kick a field goal and then, then they're down 24, 21 midfield with three minutes left and he punts. And I know it was a long day. It was like, you know, 4th and 10 or something. But still they never got the ball back. It felt like his brain kind of froze up in those two critical moments.
- [145:27]
Brandon Walker
He changes everything about himself when he plays Alabama A is offensive coordinator kind of stinks. Bobo is just not aggressive.
- [145:33]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, tough name to be a bad offensive.
- [145:35]
Brandon Walker
When you, when you talk about, when you talk about Kirby Smart, I talk about like a coach who's got a killer instinct. When he's playing these teams, he's better than he's out there. He's grabbing players helmets, he's yelling at him, he's fiery. And the players go out there and they're playing with their hair on fire. Against Alabama he's a guy comes to the sideline, makes a mistake. He just grabs him by the little face mask and talks to him very gently pats him on the butt like he changes his demeanor. He changes everything and I think it goes to his team. Remember that fourth quarter drop that Georgia had wide open. Touchdown. Guy drops it then on 4th and 1 they, they, they, they don't go for the field goal. Their play call is a toss to a third string white running back pass on that no, then fourth and one you've got a defensive back coming in and diving onto the pile. And one of the more stupid things you will ever see and so dumb. Alabama went 12 and 18 on third down. That is a lack of a killer instinct from a Georgia defense that absolutely destroys and throttles everybody else when they have the chance. I have no idea why Georgia is going backwards when it comes to Alabama. They beat him in the national title game and that's the only time they Beat him. Since Kirby's been there I have no idea how you beat him in that situation. And then after that that you go back to your old ways.
- [146:39]
Dan
First of all I don't like the racial overtones there. This is the school that had.
- [146:42]
Brandon Walker
I'm just telling you right now if I'm Georgia I'm not throwing. I'm not tossing to a white running back on third down.
- [146:46]
Dan
This is the School of Lad. Of Lad McConkey's Rock Bowers, Brock Bowers.
- [146:51]
Brandon Walker
That's a tight end.
- [146:52]
Dan
Yeah but you can talk. You can make a fourth. You can make a fourth and one work with a white guy. I Mike Allott that's he's.
- [146:58]
Brandon Walker
This guy's not Mike Allstot. It was a toss.
- [147:00]
Dan
I know he was a very skinny guy but yeah you make a good point. The drop pass that's. It's a different game game entirely. Yeah that was a touchdown pass and.
- [147:06]
Brandon Walker
Hey like Dan said you're down 24, 21. I know you want to be aggressive and I know you want to make a statement tie the game but not only the game.
- [147:13]
PFT Commenter
Not only tie the game, tie the game because you your defense actually did figure it out in the second half. You did.
- [147:19]
Miny
Yeah.
- [147:19]
PFT Commenter
I didn't score a point.
- [147:21]
Dan
I, I came away from this game not thinking that Kirby Smart it continues to be an Alabama problem for him. I came away from this game saying Alabama played a hell of a game their quarterback. I I feel like we watched their quarterback become a man are very eyes. Ty Simpson had a great game game.
- [147:36]
Brandon Walker
And I also plays on third down as well.
- [147:37]
PFT Commenter
Oh my God the third day that was. That was the most shocking thing because Kirby Smart that a Georgia defense should not be giving up those plays.
- [147:43]
Miny
Yeah yeah.
- [147:44]
Dan
I also came away from this game thinking like I I did not expect Georgia to blow him out ever. I, I thought that Alabama was going to compete because this is the exact game if you, if you put on the Alabama uniform you can run into trouble. If you're playing against Vanderbilt and you've got a bad coach you can run into trouble. If you're playing an inferior opponent and you've got a coach that might not be the guy long term but if you're playing against Georgia I think everybody on Alabama is going to get up for that game. I don't think that you're going to run into an effort problem not Vandy anymore.
- [148:11]
PFT Commenter
So that actually will be the test I think.
- [148:13]
Dan
Yeah.
- [148:13]
PFT Commenter
I think if Alabama can. Can beat Vandy like they step on their neck should have should beat Vandy, even though Vandy is the best Vandy it's probably ever been. That would be like, hey, Alabama's, you know, everything's fine. Because I've looked back at week one and I'm, I don't want to say obviously Florida State, but like, looking back at it, it's like that was a full season, full off season for Gus Malzahn to get prepared. He is an Alabama beater. Do we maybe, do we maybe overreact?
- [148:41]
Brandon Walker
I don't think, myself included, I don't think we did overreact because at that point you had a Kaylin deboard that went nine and four. In his first year with a playoff roster. He lost to the worst Oklahoma team in a decade. He lost to Vanderbilt. He lost games he shouldn't have lost. He lost to Michigan in the bowl game. And his first effort in a. In a year where he needs to go forward really quickly. His first effort was a 31, 17 loss to a team that went to 10 last year. And frankly, a team that lost to Virginia the other night. So I'm not sold. At Florida State is great. I don't think we overreacted. I think that game might be a sign that the top of the SEC has come down to earth. If you look at Georgia and Tennessee, they were very even. Alabama and Georgia very even. Alabama goes out in Florida State and gets. Gets beat. I think the SEC is very deep, but at the top, Alabama is nowhere near what they were. Georgia is nowhere near what they were. Texas, the jury is still out, but I think the top of the SEC has really regressed and come down to everybody else.
- [149:34]
PFT Commenter
Maybe Ole Miss, I don't think so. If we want to talk narratives, that's a game that Lane Kiffin always loses.
- [149:40]
Brandon Walker
Ole Miss is a. Is a good football team. They're ranked number four. I think that's preposterous at number four. And I think even Ole Miss fans, rational ones would agree. Like they beat an LSU team who got a lot of credit for beating Clemson. LSU hasn't been good since the Clemson game.
- [149:53]
PFT Commenter
And really I would say Clemson was national title win in the off season.
- [149:56]
Brandon Walker
I was totally wrong about that. I meant I. And a lot of people whiffed on Clemson. I thought Kate Clubman was going to be good. Whatever. Clemson's trash. They're not good this year. And LSU just was. Was not very good. If Ole Miss has some, some games in the second half of this schedule, if they're the number four team, if they're as good as they look, they're going to have to go to Oklahoma and win. They're going to have to go to Georgia and compete like there's, there's a lot going forward. I don't know that there's an elite. I'll just say this. I think there's three teams in the Big Ten better than any team in the SEC room right now. I think it's Penn State, Oregon, Ohio.
- [150:27]
PFT Commenter
I'd agree with that.
- [150:28]
Brandon Walker
And I think the SEC as far as the top end elite playoff contenders is down a step from where it was.
- [150:34]
PFT Commenter
I'd agree with you.
- [150:34]
Dan
Put Penn State in over anybody from the sec.
- [150:37]
Brandon Walker
I absolutely would.
- [150:38]
Dan
Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, lsu, Texas.
- [150:41]
Brandon Walker
We've seen Alabama on the road twice. They won a three point game at Georgia. They lost by two touchdowns at Florida State. We've seen Georgia on the road. They came back and beat Tennessee and they come home and they lose to an Alabama team that is probably fine, but I don't think they're great.
- [150:53]
Dan
It's weird because the top of the sec, it feels like it has a lot of parity in it.
- [150:57]
Brandon Walker
It's SEC is remarkably deep.
- [150:59]
Miny
Yeah.
- [151:00]
Brandon Walker
I think team one to team like 10 is, is, has potential to be good.
- [151:04]
Miny
Yeah.
- [151:04]
Brandon Walker
What about like Oklahoma's number five? Ole Miss is number four. I don't think Oklahoma is the fifth best team in the country. I just don't. They beat an Auburn team that the refs handed them the victory and they beat a Michigan team who had a freshman quarterback and didn't. I wasn't even interested in winning that game.
- [151:18]
Dan
Yeah. Do they, do they take account injuries into the top 25? Well, I guess it's a bunch of different voters.
- [151:23]
Brandon Walker
The AP Top 25 is one of the bigger disasters we've ever had.
- [151:26]
Dan
We got to fix that, right?
- [151:27]
PFT Commenter
I actually do think we got to fix that.
- [151:29]
Brandon Walker
You like that? It's bad.
- [151:30]
Dan
It's good for conversation.
- [151:31]
PFT Commenter
It's exactly what it's made for, people. What is a list created for? A list is created for people to get upset about, to stir up. So if it was a perfect grouping of AP voters who always nailed it, it, it would be the most boring thing ever. We need bias. We need stupid people. We need that woman who's like, I'm not sharing my data, my formula. We need all of that because when you put a list on the Internet, you get. You're the king of lists, you know?
- [151:56]
Miny
Yeah.
- [151:56]
PFT Commenter
People go crazy for them.
- [151:57]
Brandon Walker
No, I, I like that it stirs up debate and, and I am the king of Being able to dispassionately just put out a list and step back and not get mad when somebody else makes a list. I looked at the AP Top 25 yesterday and almost made a video. I'm like, what the fuck are these people?
- [152:09]
PFT Commenter
So they, the list is working.
- [152:11]
Brandon Walker
It's working.
- [152:12]
PFT Commenter
They did the list on you.
- [152:13]
Dan
So what's the brand Walker top five?
- [152:15]
Brandon Walker
So I got Ohio State number one. I think they're a clear number one right now. I have Oregon number two. I put it out last night. Miami three. I don't know who I have for somebody. Oh, I got an Alabama 4 because I just put them there. If they're going to go to Athens and win, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt for a minute even though I still kind of have some doubts. And then number five, I believe I had Notre Dame. No, I don't have. Oh, Texas. I got Texas.
- [152:41]
Dan
But we don't know.
- [152:42]
Brandon Walker
We don't know. There's so much we don't know still. But Texas we're just kind of waiting on because they had the one game to start, they looked bad and now they've just been nursing themselves back to life.
- [152:50]
Dan
Brent, also, congratulations on a big loss for you on Saturday. You know that was the best loss of the weekend.
- [152:56]
Brandon Walker
You said that with a very concentrate tone.
- [152:59]
Dan
Is that in fact. I don't like that fact or fiction?
- [153:02]
PFT Commenter
I'm going to defend you brain.
- [153:03]
Dan
Mississippi State, Tennessee, overtime. That was the, that was the biggest loss of the week. No, I mean like the best.
- [153:10]
Brandon Walker
You know, as a Commanders fan and I've seen you go emotionally through these things where you rationalize losses to yourself over the last few years. So for you to come at me like this is crazy.
- [153:19]
Dan
What you got to do is you got to wait for next week and then obviously Tennessee loses next week and you're like, see, we beat them up. Too bad.
- [153:25]
Brandon Walker
That was one of the better losses in recent memory for us. Yeah, a year ago at this exact week, we were non competitive in a 4114 loss to Toledo. Toledo is a fine Mac team, but they are a Mac team. We shouldn't be non competitive in a loss to them. Flash forward a year, we're 4 0. I thought Tennessee was going to kill us. If you looked at the rosters, if you looked at the lines of scrimmage, Tennessee was towering over us and we just took it to him. Fluff Bothwell can run it, he's the best, can run it. Like we ran it down their throat for four quarters and we had them, we had them down seven with two minutes left. They had fourth and five. They end up making the play. They beat us. They're a legit top 10 to 12 team. I am very happy with where we are. So your condescension.
- [154:04]
Miny
Yeah.
- [154:05]
Brandon Walker
Was right. It was a great loss.
- [154:07]
PFT Commenter
Right.
- [154:07]
Dan
You like the words, you don't like the tone? I didn't like the tone, but congratulations because I was.
- [154:12]
Brandon Walker
But you can't say that. That's, that's where we go. Well, you can't congratulate.
- [154:15]
Dan
You're happy, you were okay with the loss.
- [154:17]
Brandon Walker
I'm not, I'm not okay with the loss. I didn't, I wasn't happy with the loss, but I'm able to look at the loss in the context of where we were. And where we are is way better.
- [154:25]
PFT Commenter
I think loser talk.
- [154:26]
Dan
I think.
- [154:26]
PFT Commenter
Gotta change that about you if you want to, but it takes.
- [154:30]
Brandon Walker
Right?
- [154:30]
Dan
It's.
- [154:31]
Brandon Walker
We're climbing a ladder.
- [154:32]
Miny
Yeah.
- [154:32]
PFT Commenter
You still, you're happy with the loss, but you can't let him congratulate you.
- [154:35]
Brandon Walker
You can't go from flat footed to being on top of a ladder. You have to climb.
- [154:38]
Dan
What if you just flip the switch?
- [154:40]
Brandon Walker
There's no switch to ladders.
- [154:42]
PFT Commenter
No, there's a, there's a ladders you can just stand on. They just take you up.
- [154:45]
Brandon Walker
That's an elevator.
- [154:46]
Miny
Yeah.
- [154:46]
Brandon Walker
Or forklift. Yeah, we don't have a forklift in the sec.
- [154:49]
PFT Commenter
Okay, what about maybe get an elevator?
- [154:52]
Brandon Walker
There's not. I don't even know how many elevators in October. How County? Like 6.
- [154:56]
Dan
Well, you don't have hotels.
- [154:57]
PFT Commenter
I don't know, you tell us.
- [154:58]
Brandon Walker
We have several hotels.
- [155:00]
PFT Commenter
Several?
- [155:00]
Brandon Walker
Oh yeah, several.
- [155:02]
Dan
They, they, they settle that.
- [155:03]
Brandon Walker
At least seven or eight.
- [155:04]
PFT Commenter
We stayed at a not great hotel on Friday night.
- [155:07]
Brandon Walker
We said that was a bad, that.
- [155:08]
PFT Commenter
Was a bad hotel.
- [155:09]
Miny
Yeah.
- [155:09]
PFT Commenter
You could tell right away.
- [155:10]
Brandon Walker
My wife is the sweetest, most easygoing thing in the world. She's like, this isn't great.
- [155:13]
Miny
No.
- [155:14]
PFT Commenter
And it was also like, I think you can tell it was weird because I was like, maybe this hotel isn't that bad because they had a pantry closet that was stacked.
- [155:22]
Miny
Yeah.
- [155:22]
PFT Commenter
Like everything.
- [155:23]
Brandon Walker
And a gym that looked good.
- [155:25]
PFT Commenter
Jim looked good. Not a great hotel.
- [155:27]
Brandon Walker
When you step onto the elevator and the elevator sinks a little bit and.
- [155:30]
PFT Commenter
It'S only three floors.
- [155:31]
Brandon Walker
Correct.
- [155:31]
PFT Commenter
That's always a bad sign.
- [155:32]
Brandon Walker
The elevator might made noise every, every floor.
- [155:35]
PFT Commenter
Three floor elevator that takes about like 25 minutes to go one floor. Not a great sign.
- [155:40]
Dan
Brandon, I got a question for you. About the Big Ten, about Indiana. Look ahead. Crystal ball.
- [155:45]
PFT Commenter
You respecting them.
- [155:46]
Dan
Crystal ball. What happens after this weekend? Are we still talking about Indiana like they're a team that should be feared.
- [155:52]
Brandon Walker
So what are the next three or four? You got Indiana schedule up in front of you.
- [155:55]
Dan
Let's see what their next three.
- [155:56]
Brandon Walker
So Indiana, Indiana kills Illinois. Right. And it's great. It's fantastic. They did something they didn't do last year. They beat a ranked team.
- [156:02]
Dan
So after, obviously Oregon, they got Michigan State, then ucla, then Maryland, then Penn State.
- [156:08]
Brandon Walker
Okay, so they're cruising for a while. Maryland's a little snow, but. But listen, they are. There's nothing awe inspiring about what Indiana did at Iowa on Saturday, but I guess you can kind of chalk that up because to no visit to Iowa is ever pretty.
- [156:21]
PFT Commenter
No, Iowa makes you play Iowa.
- [156:23]
Dan
I heard I had a nasty rumor about Brandon Walker this weekend. On Saturday was having. I was having a nice brunch with your co host, Mark Titus.
- [156:30]
Brandon Walker
Sure.
- [156:30]
Dan
And they did the tradition where they waved to the kids. Do you not like that tradition?
- [156:35]
PFT Commenter
Oh, he hates it.
- [156:36]
Brandon Walker
I do not hate that tradition.
- [156:37]
Dan
Are you the only guy in the world?
- [156:39]
Brandon Walker
Don't bring me on the number one sports podcast in the world and ask me this because crazy.
- [156:43]
Dan
Well, when Tyres told me that, I was like, that's insane that he hates it. But then I try.
- [156:46]
Brandon Walker
I do not hate that tradition. I try to think about why waving to sick kids is admirable. And it is a wonderful moment. And I. And I. And I almost tear up. I get the tingle, as Dan says, when I see it. However, my experience with the Iowa fan base in my life has been a nasty bunch of jackals that called my wife and tried to get her fired, that tried to get all my sponsors to drop me.
- [157:09]
PFT Commenter
Deserve to be fired?
- [157:10]
Brandon Walker
No, because she was married to me. And I said, I can't believe, because.
- [157:14]
PFT Commenter
There could be a chance like 2019, sometimes you get it right. Like you took the wrong path, but you got it right. Like maybe she was bad at her job. She deserved to be fired.
- [157:21]
Brandon Walker
2019, I said, I can't believe we lost this game to Iowa. It's the slowest, widest team in the Big 12. That was me in the Big 10. And they, they absolutely came at me and tried to ruin me and everything. And Iowa, after a victory, Iowa fans were nasty and terrible. So what Iowa fans do now is they have this wonderful, incredible tradition where they wave and boy, do they make sure you know how great people they are for doing it.
- [157:41]
Dan
So that's My stance when I heard that we're not a fan of the way wave. I tried to put, I didn't say.
- [157:46]
Brandon Walker
I wasn't a fan of the wave. This is crazy. He's, he's got you, me in front of.
- [157:49]
Dan
I tried to put myself in your brain.
- [157:51]
Brandon Walker
I save you.
- [157:51]
PFT Commenter
I'm gonna save you. I'm throw you a rope.
- [157:54]
Brandon Walker
You're not saving me.
- [157:55]
Miny
No.
- [157:55]
PFT Commenter
I'm gonna sink myself. I'm, I'm trying to figure out how I'm gonna sink myself gracefully. When Ruckers did the drone thing, none of the kids in Iowa could see it. You're in New Jersey, correct?
- [158:06]
Miny
Yeah.
- [158:07]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, that was it.
- [158:08]
Brandon Walker
And you know why Rutgers did that?
- [158:09]
Miny
Yeah.
- [158:10]
Brandon Walker
To make themselves feel good about themselves.
- [158:11]
PFT Commenter
That was, I look, it was a cool moment, but it's like there no one, no one could see it.
- [158:16]
Brandon Walker
I know a lot of bad people in the Iowa fan base who try to make themselves feel good and look good because of their participation in the way it is.
- [158:23]
Dan
It's a very nice thing. I, I almost tear up every time I see it.
- [158:25]
Brandon Walker
It's beautiful.
- [158:26]
Dan
I thought your take, I thought your take was going to be, if you want to make those kids happy, score some points.
- [158:30]
Brandon Walker
Yeah, I, I could have gone that way. Instead, I, I probably made it worse for myself.
- [158:35]
PFT Commenter
Did you see the Ruckers 1 PFT.
- [158:36]
Dan
I did see that.
- [158:37]
Miny
Yeah.
- [158:37]
PFT Commenter
Would you, did you initially, I, I hate that my brain initially went there, but I, I was like, you're in New Jersey. You, you can't, you can't see that.
- [158:44]
Brandon Walker
I, I seven or eight states away.
- [158:45]
Dan
Listen, I always tear up when I see drones.
- [158:47]
Brandon Walker
Also, it's a Friday night. They're all those sick kids, probably in the bed.
- [158:49]
PFT Commenter
I guess they could have shown him the video of it. That's kind of cool now that I'm thinking, now that I'm talking it out, they could have shown them.
- [158:54]
Dan
I love aviation kids.
- [158:56]
Brandon Walker
The six year old kid who's fighting for his life is like, what is, what is a Rutgers?
- [158:59]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, probably, Probably. I think Indiana's good.
- [159:03]
Brandon Walker
I think Indiana is a very, they look very solid so far. I, I, my doubts about them last year were never about the team. It was about the fact that we just ignore the national media. Everybody ignored the fact that video.
- [159:14]
PFT Commenter
You got to stop with these videos. This is a little kid, like they're.
- [159:17]
Brandon Walker
Sleeping and he's, it's, they got that spot because of their schedule.
- [159:19]
Dan
It's an amazing thing that they do.
- [159:21]
PFT Commenter
Jesus Christ, Max, stop. You're going to make Me cry. It's fucking incredible.
- [159:26]
Brandon Walker
There's nothing I can do now for the rest of this.
- [159:28]
Dan
What I love is that like fucking incredible. The players.
- [159:30]
PFT Commenter
I'm going to cry right now.
- [159:31]
Brandon Walker
I carried you to a trivia championship, man.
- [159:34]
PFT Commenter
Put their hearts in it.
- [159:35]
Brandon Walker
I carried you to a championship and you do this to me.
- [159:38]
Dan
You got me in some sort of panic room over here right now. Brandon, just.
- [159:41]
Brandon Walker
I just carried you to a champ. I got you a ring.
- [159:44]
Dan
I had a bad back.
- [159:46]
PFT Commenter
Brandon.
- [159:46]
Dan
My teammate's coach died.
- [159:49]
PFT Commenter
Brandon.
- [159:50]
Miny
Yeah.
- [159:51]
PFT Commenter
Notre Dame. I said to Notre Dame fans after week two, you're in the exact same spot that you were last year.
- [159:57]
Miny
Yeah.
- [159:58]
PFT Commenter
There's. In by exact same spot, Northern Illinois. That loss was a. Was two losses.
- [160:03]
Brandon Walker
It was a joke.
- [160:03]
PFT Commenter
You can't lose another one after that. They lost to two potentially most likely college football teams, playoff teams in Texas. A and M and Miami. Close games, both of them.
- [160:13]
Brandon Walker
I don't think A and M is a playoff team, but maybe the SEC is chaos.
- [160:16]
PFT Commenter
The SEC kind of is the Big 12 this year.
- [160:18]
Miny
Yeah.
- [160:18]
PFT Commenter
Where it's just like, we don't know. I. Notre Dame's going to go to the playoff. I think they're going to. C.J. carr is the real deal. Yeah, I said that. I did that. Right. Trying to reel Notre Dame fans back in because a lot of them were like, seasons over.
- [160:33]
Miny
I think.
- [160:34]
PFT Commenter
I think they're run the table. I think they're going to go to the playoffs.
- [160:36]
Brandon Walker
Two things here. A. Notre Dame is absolutely going to the playoff.
- [160:39]
Miny
Yeah.
- [160:40]
Brandon Walker
Number two, they're not nearly as good a team as they were last.
- [160:42]
PFT Commenter
No. But they also are kind of figuring it out because Arkansas, I know that game got away. And what Notre Dame did offensively was incredible. But the sneaky part is Arkansas's offense is really good. Taylor Green, they shut him down.
- [160:53]
Brandon Walker
Yeah, they shut him down. They dominated Arkansas. They absolutely killed him. They're going to put it together over these next eight weeks as they have a schedule that nurses them back to health like they had last year. But they. They have a good offense. I love C.J. carr. I love the running back. I love the receiver. Great house. I love. I love so much about Notre Dame. But at the end of the day, they're going to make the playoff. And that defense is going to hold them back.
- [161:16]
Miny
Yeah.
- [161:16]
Brandon Walker
But they're going playoffs.
- [161:17]
PFT Commenter
Their season is like.
- [161:18]
Brandon Walker
They're going to go 10 and 2 and they're going to playoff.
- [161:20]
PFT Commenter
There was doom and gloom, and it was like, you're. This is just a groundhog Day of.
- [161:25]
Brandon Walker
Last year, they also lost. This is why when they were 02 and still ranked, I didn't have a problem with that one. Because they lost a one point game on a missed extra point to Texas A and M and with a bad call on the 4th and 11, and they lost a three point game on the road against Miami. I think Miami's very, very good. So, like, I have no problem with Notre Dame being ranked after they were 02. And I have no problem saying right now they're going to go 10 and 2 and go to the playoff.
- [161:45]
Dan
When you're doing the official Brenton Walker rankings, do you rank them based on. On their resume or do you rank them based on which team would beat other teams?
- [161:52]
Brandon Walker
I base it on what I need to base it on in that moment. For some teams, it's resume. For some teams, it's just how I feel about them.
- [161:57]
PFT Commenter
I like it.
- [161:57]
Dan
And there's no insight into your algorithm.
- [162:00]
PFT Commenter
You know what you got to say when people get mad about it?
- [162:01]
Miny
Yeah.
- [162:02]
PFT Commenter
You say my rankings remain fluid.
- [162:04]
Brandon Walker
That is what. That's what they're always fluid. I'm not like water there and go into my logic or my process. Yeah, those are my rankings. Like Oklahoma, technically, right now, they have a win over Auburn. They have a win over Michigan. I don't think either of those teams are any good. Good. Oklahoma's number five in the country. I think that's poppycock. I think they should be like number 12, I think.
- [162:21]
PFT Commenter
Poppy. That's the first time poppycock has ever been set on this.
- [162:24]
Brandon Walker
I've been trying to work poppycock into the rotation a lot lately.
- [162:27]
PFT Commenter
It didn't really land like you thought it did.
- [162:29]
Brandon Walker
You went, oh.
- [162:30]
PFT Commenter
Because it's a ridiculous thing.
- [162:32]
Brandon Walker
No, it landed. Don't act like that didn't. Well, it was a hard p. Yeah, poppycock. Landed.
- [162:37]
Dan
Is that what you say when you whip out your. Your dick? We actually in the middle of the night to take a look.
- [162:41]
Brandon Walker
No, no. Damn. That's like that.
- [162:42]
PFT Commenter
You just bleep that. I don't want that.
- [162:44]
Brandon Walker
We're standing on the tarmac and I don't want to in and said, oh, wow.
- [162:48]
PFT Commenter
Here a lot of trouble there. I don't want what word he just said to be out there.
- [162:52]
Miny
You.
- [162:52]
Brandon Walker
You wave the plane in and then. And brought to a stop and you're like, oh, you didn't land. That's what you just did.
- [162:59]
Dan
There's nobody that stands on the, on the Runway that waves the plane in, you idiot. There's somebody up in air traffic control that guides them in. There's nobody on the Runway. They get run over by a plane.
- [163:07]
Brandon Walker
Let me. Let me. They're on the tarmac then. Excuse me.
- [163:09]
Dan
No they're not on the tarmac.
- [163:10]
Brandon Walker
Well there's somebody out there doing this to play.
- [163:12]
Dan
That's when the when the planes tax.
- [163:13]
Brandon Walker
Taxiing after it's they've already landed and then they tax them in. Yeah but that Dan still taxiing them in and telling the park and then you do this. I did that for two years buddy. I was. I was on the tarmac.
- [163:24]
Dan
That's poppycock.
- [163:26]
PFT Commenter
That's hogwash as hogwash.
- [163:28]
Brandon Walker
Working on hogwash and poppycock.
- [163:29]
Dan
Talk to me about about the U.
- [163:32]
Brandon Walker
Yeah, I think they're real good.
- [163:33]
Dan
They're another one that's like we're going to find out a lot this weekend.
- [163:36]
Brandon Walker
We are. I this is a very dangerous and scary spot for him. Alabama already went there and lost and this is a team that everything's been going well so far. Everything's going great. But it's not a team historically who has weathered the highs and lows of season or the slings and arrows of a season. Like they they can get tripped up. I like them. I like their defensive line. I like Bain. I like their their weapons they put together offensively. I love Carson Beck but this is terrifying to go to a desperate Florida State team.
- [164:02]
Dan
So I might be over leveraged in in the U in my futures. I've got Carson Beck to win the Heisman Trophy. And then I also took a flyer on Bain because it feels like there's. There's nobody that separated themselves just yet at the quarterback position.
- [164:16]
Brandon Walker
No, his quarterback's kind of kind of kind of been running in mud this this season so far it's not been very exciting.
- [164:22]
Dan
A great defensive lineman put up some numbers.
- [164:25]
Brandon Walker
Maybe possibly I'd watch for a receiver or running back to possibly break through too.
- [164:28]
PFT Commenter
Like is lurking.
- [164:30]
Brandon Walker
All the receivers and running backs are lurking. If any running back back and put up like a 230 or a 250 somebody's going to grab go far.
- [164:38]
Dan
Speaking about Smith the the game against Washington this weekend it felt like Ohio State was kind of stuck in mud. They got stuck in a rock fight in the first half.
- [164:45]
Miny
Yeah.
- [164:46]
Dan
And then kind of they were clearly the better physical team and they just kind of wore Washington down play with.
- [164:51]
Brandon Walker
Their food a little bit.
- [164:51]
PFT Commenter
I think I think that was almost intentional because it was saying's first road start and they're like hey let's not our defense. Their defense is awesome.
- [165:00]
Brandon Walker
Lights out.
- [165:01]
PFT Commenter
It's lights out. Are they better than last year?
- [165:04]
Brandon Walker
I can't say they're better than last year.
- [165:05]
PFT Commenter
I could if you wanted to. Look, I'll say it. Ohio State's better this year than last year, but.
- [165:10]
Brandon Walker
Do you believe it?
- [165:10]
PFT Commenter
No, but I said it.
- [165:12]
Brandon Walker
I can't make myself feel it right now. Hold on, let me try.
- [165:17]
Dan
This Ohio State team is better than last year.
- [165:19]
Miny
Yeah, there you go. That was.
- [165:21]
PFT Commenter
That came out easy.
- [165:22]
Dan
Undefeated against Michigan so far.
- [165:24]
Brandon Walker
Okay. I could say it easily. I don't think I could believe. Make myself believe. The team had two crazy hiccups where they lost the one point game in Oregon and then did whatever they did against Michigan. That mental thing got them. But they got. That was a historic. We'll never see a run like that in a playoff again where they beat four teams like that by double digits or three teams, whatever it was. Four teams, right?
- [165:43]
Miny
Yeah.
- [165:44]
Dan
I mean, they barely beat Texas, and Texas might suck.
- [165:47]
Brandon Walker
Texas this year.
- [165:49]
Dan
This year.
- [165:49]
Miny
Yeah.
- [165:49]
Brandon Walker
I mean, I thought it was. Again, that was easing into the pool, though, that offense. They were not. Not that offense they were running against Texas. They were just. They got the lead and they kind of just stayed.
- [165:59]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. I think you're gonna see Ohio open up gradually, start to take off. Like, you even saw it in that game.
- [166:04]
Brandon Walker
The Saiyan's ready to take the next step.
- [166:06]
PFT Commenter
Right. And you saw in that game, when they're like, oh, yeah, Jeremiah Smith. Let's do. Let's do the Jeremiah Smith play.
- [166:11]
Miny
Yeah.
- [166:11]
PFT Commenter
And they'll. They'll do that.
- [166:12]
Brandon Walker
Yeah. We need. We need to go and get six right here.
- [166:14]
PFT Commenter
It's really good, too.
- [166:15]
Brandon Walker
We need to go and get six. Let's give it to Jeremiah.
- [166:17]
Dan
When Smith got the ball, it's like, oh, that guy's just way faster than everybody on the field. They should do that more.
- [166:21]
Miny
Yeah.
- [166:22]
Dan
And they will.
- [166:22]
Brandon Walker
Yeah. I think they're easily the best team in the country right now. I think their defense is outstanding, but I just. I'm just not ready to say they're better than last year.
- [166:30]
PFT Commenter
Do you buy Bryce Underwood? I kind of do.
- [166:32]
Brandon Walker
I buy stock for the future. I don't buy him with Sharon Moore as his head coach. Oh, I think Sheron Moore is a very good head football coach.
- [166:39]
Miny
Why?
- [166:39]
Brandon Walker
And I. He's just. You saw when we. To. To get Bryce running, they had to be coached by Biff.
- [166:46]
Miny
Yeah.
- [166:46]
Brandon Walker
Biff's the guy that said, hey, let's run. And we got this guy who's a one Of a kind unicorn. Why don't we use him? And meanwhile every time Sherron Moore is at the, at the controls, it's. He's a pocket passer. That's absurd. I agree. And he's also an 18 year old. An 18 year old kid or 18 year old freshman. His running game is going to be ahead of his passing game right now. Why are you making him process defenses? Let him use his athleticism.
- [167:08]
Dan
Yeah, I agree with all that.
- [167:09]
PFT Commenter
I'm buying stock in him though.
- [167:10]
Brandon Walker
He's always great. He's going to be great. The stock has to be through the roof though. Like this is a five star quarterback, number one quarterback in the country. He's.
- [167:17]
Dan
I took like a minor dip at the start of the year.
- [167:19]
Brandon Walker
He's a, he's a Heisman trophy caliber quarterback in year two or three.
- [167:23]
Miny
Yeah.
- [167:23]
Dan
Can we talk openings?
- [167:25]
Brandon Walker
Yeah, we can talk openings. Can we talk about the Arkansas opening first?
- [167:28]
Dan
Well, no, I was going to ask you what your favorite opening was.
- [167:30]
Brandon Walker
I love. Are you looking for some sort of bodily pun here?
- [167:34]
Dan
I asked you a question.
- [167:35]
Brandon Walker
Arkansas is my favorite opening right now.
- [167:37]
Dan
Because I was going to say vagina.
- [167:38]
Brandon Walker
It was clearly engineered. It was clearly engineered from Bobby Petrino. Just pulled a couple.
- [167:44]
Miny
Yeah, he did.
- [167:44]
PFT Commenter
He fired all the defensive guys and.
- [167:46]
Brandon Walker
Nobody'S talking about it. Bobby Petrino, the guy who 10 years ago was in a neck brace with his face got asphalt all over it and he resigns in shame because he's been fucking somebody. And then he goes off and tries and has to do a new career. Two years ago, dumbass Sam Pittman says, hey man, come on back to Arkansas, help me get this thing in the right direction. And Bobby's like, oh, yes sir. Comes in.
- [168:07]
Miny
Yeah.
- [168:08]
Brandon Walker
And immediately starts making plans to take over. I guarantee you Bobby Petrino, if you asked him right now, are you the interim coach at Arkansas? Are you the coach at Arkansas? Yeah, he's going to say I'm the coach at Arkansas. He fired three defensive assistants. Remember he was an assistant three days ago.
- [168:22]
Miny
Yeah.
- [168:23]
Brandon Walker
And he's immediately firing assistance. What an asshole.
- [168:25]
PFT Commenter
Entire defensive staff.
- [168:26]
Brandon Walker
What a fucking asshole.
- [168:27]
PFT Commenter
We, but we knew he was an asshole.
- [168:29]
Dan
It's a very funny move that he pulled off. And he pulled it off perfectly. He had maybe the. If you were to draw up a guy in a lab that you could engineer a coup from under. Yeah, it's probably Sam.
- [168:37]
Brandon Walker
Yeah. Sam Pittman is the most oblivious to coups in the world.
- [168:41]
PFT Commenter
Well, he also wanted to get fired. He like, I, I wasn't there a Story that he basically went to them being like, hey, you want to just do this before the season started? Like, you owe us a lot of money. His agent was like, you owe me a lot of money. You owe Sam Pittman a lot of money. Let's just. Let's just do this now.
- [168:56]
Brandon Walker
Fired head coach in college football is the best job in the entire world.
- [168:59]
Miny
Yep.
- [168:59]
PFT Commenter
By the way, I would have said my favorite opening. Kevin Spilling the ch. Chili.
- [169:04]
Dan
It's great.
- [169:04]
Brandon Walker
Cold opening.
- [169:05]
Miny
Yeah.
- [169:05]
Brandon Walker
I like. I like the. The Backstreet Boys song on Brooklyn. Nine.
- [169:08]
Miny
Nine.
- [169:09]
PFT Commenter
Okay.
- [169:09]
Brandon Walker
Where they do. I want it that way.
- [169:10]
Dan
Not familiar with that one.
- [169:12]
Brandon Walker
Cold open.
- [169:12]
Dan
Let's say, hypothetically, Bobby Petrino is not gonna stick around.
- [169:15]
Miny
Yeah.
- [169:15]
PFT Commenter
He's sticking around.
- [169:17]
Brandon Walker
He's gonna. They'll.
- [169:17]
Miny
He's gonna do everything.
- [169:18]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, he's gonna. He's already got. Yeah, he's got his. His claws in there.
- [169:22]
Dan
There's a lot of money.
- [169:23]
Brandon Walker
White shrut moving into Michael's office and painting the walls black already.
- [169:26]
Dan
Yeah. There's a lot.
- [169:27]
PFT Commenter
A lot of money. They win a couple games. He's sticking around.
- [169:29]
Miny
Yeah.
- [169:30]
Brandon Walker
I assume they probably will.
- [169:31]
Miny
Yeah.
- [169:31]
Brandon Walker
Like, they're not. They got the quarterback.
- [169:33]
Miny
They.
- [169:33]
Brandon Walker
They got a decent roster.
- [169:34]
Miny
Yeah.
- [169:35]
Dan
Paints the walls milky white, sticky, viscous. So let's say, hypothetically, he's not the coach, though.
- [169:41]
Miny
Yeah.
- [169:41]
Dan
What are the guys that Arkansas is going to look at? Because they got a ton of money. The Walmart money, chicken money, but they don't. The Jerry Jones money. Just saved a bunch of money on Micah Parsons.
- [169:50]
Brandon Walker
I think Rhett Lashley, smu. SMU went to the playoff last year. He's an Arkansas guy. Went to Arkansas. I think he played at Arkansas. Like, Rhett Lashley is where it probably starts. Gj, Kenny from. I always get North Texas, Texas State. Confused. He's from Texas State. They're. They're going to look at guys all over and that. That footprint and everything, but Lashley is probably the number one guy. And they'll say. They'll say John Gruden and they'll say all these big names, but I think Red Lash is probably the one that got circled.
- [170:18]
PFT Commenter
What about Florida?
- [170:18]
Brandon Walker
John Sumrall, by the way, is another one.
- [170:20]
Miny
Yeah.
- [170:21]
Brandon Walker
Tulane to the sec. He's going from Tulane to the sec. Whether it's Kentucky, Arkansas, wherever it is, he's definitely got an SEC job next year. Florida. Florida's interesting, right? Like, Florida, to me, should be Lane Kiffin. They should do everything in their power to get Lane Kiffin. He's a national championship Coach at a place that probably can't win a national title. He's. They're very good, and I'm not taking a shot at Ole Miss. But Florida is a place that can win a national title in the next three to five years. But Lane hasn't shown the desire to really get out of there. So he might be. He might be settled in. I look at Drink at Missouri. If I'm Florida, I think Drink every. Lane's getting the credit for what he's done at Ole Miss. Drink has done the exact same thing. He went 11 and two beat Ohio State game a couple years ago. He went. He just missed the playoff last year. I think they were nine and three. I think they're a playoff team this year. Drink at Florida could be a menace. I know a lot of people say Jed Fish at Washington because he's got Florida ties. I don't think he's one enough to do it. No, I would go Lane or Drink if I. If I have my, my, my wishes at Florida. And I'm Scott Strickland, the ad. I would start with Lane if he says no, which I think he probably will, and then I'd go to Drink.
- [171:25]
Dan
Did you bury Dabo?
- [171:27]
Brandon Walker
I. I haven't buried Dabo. I have. I don't know what I've done with Dabo.
- [171:34]
PFT Commenter
I think that Dabo is trying to bury himself. No. Well, yeah, maybe. But I saw that whole rant that he did where he's like, you guys are spoiled. All this stuff. I don't know if he said spoiled. I get between Barry Alvarez and Brian Kelly. Everyone's saying spoiled these days, but pretty much like, we've won. We suck this year. We might go six and six. Would Dabo get a premier job? I don't think he would.
- [171:58]
Brandon Walker
So can I go backwards again? Can I go backwards again?
- [172:00]
Miny
Would.
- [172:01]
PFT Commenter
And when I say premiere, I'm saying a top of like, Florida, let's use Florida.
- [172:06]
Brandon Walker
I just said Drink. I just said, Lane, if you're Florida and you fly into Greenville, South Carolina, and you have him meet you in the private plane and you say dab up, I'm willing to give you this job. If you embrace a transfer portal, if you change what you're doing, if I know that you've got a national championship coach in you, if you will meet these two things, transfer portal, nil. And fully embrace it and unlock the potential of Florida, I think he would be an incredible fit at somewhere like Florida because he has. He thrived in the last era of college football. If he just tweaked his recipe to cook with the ingredients that modern college football has. I think you'd be that coach again. Why, if you're Florida, Keep in mind, the last couple of times they've put out a help wanted sign at Florida, they haven't exactly been beating the door down to come coach at the University of Florida. They have. They got ull's coach, they got Mississippi State's coach one time. They got Central Michigan's Coach, they got McElwain. They got Mus Champ. Like, this isn't a job that people are beating down the door to get.
- [173:07]
PFT Commenter
What if, what if Dabo. There's a little bit of, you could say like analogies here with Belichick in the fact that Belichick, by all intents and purposes wanted to or by everything we've, we've read wanted to stay in the NFL. Yeah, was, went and did meetings was like, it's my way or the highway. This is how I'm doing it. I've won the Super Bowls. This is how I do it. I'm going to not going to change. I'm going to be the same guy had to go to college football. What about Dabo Sweeney coaching the Miami Dog Dolphins? That would be so funny.
- [173:40]
Dan
He would hate.
- [173:41]
Brandon Walker
No, I, I don't want that. Rah rah in the NFL, man. I don't want that.
- [173:45]
PFT Commenter
What if every college dude's like, no, dude, you won't do the transfer. He's like, you know what? I'm going to the.
- [173:49]
Brandon Walker
You know, I know he's not modernizing his game, but he is the most college football guy.
- [173:54]
PFT Commenter
I could never see him.
- [173:55]
Miny
He's a classic.
- [173:55]
PFT Commenter
He's like, but that would be awesome.
- [173:57]
Dan
He's like a small town warlord and he controls everything. He's great when he does it. But yeah, you go to the. And he would retire before Nick Saban retired at Miami.
- [174:04]
Brandon Walker
If you're the Florida AD and you're sitting there, or even Arkansas AD or Oklahoma State AD and you're sitting there talking to Dabo and you say, and Dabo convinces you, he says, listen, I know why I went wrong at Clemson. The game changed. I didn't change with it. I thought I'd keep doing what I was doing at Florida. I'm going to be, I'm going to be Mr. Transfer Portal. I'm going to be Mr. Nil. Don't you give him a shot.
- [174:24]
Dan
I mean, I actually think Oklahoma State should.
- [174:26]
PFT Commenter
I just don't think he'll change.
- [174:28]
Brandon Walker
I don't Think.
- [174:28]
Dan
I think that's like the perfect school for.
- [174:30]
PFT Commenter
But that's not a premier job.
- [174:31]
Brandon Walker
Yeah, but it's content. Him changing is contention on him. Him taking a job is contention on him changing. He sits down with ads and says, I'm not going to change. They're not going to hire him.
- [174:40]
PFT Commenter
Well, I also think he might say he's going to change, but he's not going to change.
- [174:42]
Brandon Walker
Well, then that's a different story entirely.
- [174:44]
PFT Commenter
I think that's a very good. But why wouldn't he?
- [174:47]
Brandon Walker
He's the biggest artist in the world. You think he can't sit with somebody and convince them he's going to change?
- [174:52]
Dan
I don't think he'd even say that, though.
- [174:54]
Brandon Walker
I think.
- [174:54]
Dan
I think he's. He's so on record being, like, going.
- [174:56]
Brandon Walker
To have to sit back and realize there's a reason this thing went wrong. He's trying to recruit from high school and develop. Well, the problem is if you recruit from high school and develop and the players don't turn into something, you're stuck with bad players, you're stuck with disappointing players. If you don't have a coaching staff that he used to have with Brent Venables that can develop the players, you better go out and get finished products right now. Like Miami's doing, like Ole Miss is doing, and he won't do it.
- [175:20]
Dan
Should LSU panic?
- [175:21]
Brandon Walker
Yeah, LSU should panic. LSU's got the wrong coach. LSU's had the wrong coach the whole time. No matter. They beat Clemson and everybody put them up to the top five, including myself. I'm like, wow, what an impressive road win. Clemson's falling apart. They're one in three. LSU hasn't looked good since. Brian Kelly does not fit LSU football.
- [175:40]
Dan
You did not see, you did not see the very last run play of the game.
- [175:45]
Brandon Walker
What? What? What Very last. By the way, at the end of that game, I was actually. I was an absolute hell.
- [175:50]
Dan
That was three weeks ago. I'm talking about the. The last run play with Brian Kelly.
- [175:53]
Brandon Walker
Oh, when he ran the ball. Questions.
- [175:54]
Dan
Ran the ball pretty good.
- [175:55]
Miny
Yeah.
- [175:55]
Brandon Walker
I don't know, man. I just think Brian Kelly doesn't fit. And no matter what happens, if he wins the next six games, as soon as he loses the seventh, the fan base is going to turn on him again because they don't like him. They pretend to like him when he's winning. When things are okay, they don't like him. And I don't think he likes them.
- [176:10]
PFT Commenter
I don't think anyone likes him.
- [176:11]
Brandon Walker
No, he's Not a likable guy.
- [176:13]
PFT Commenter
Oh, he's the most unlikable guy that there is.
- [176:16]
Brandon Walker
And you guys know, you guys have been there. Like, LSU thrives on who its coaches.
- [176:20]
Miny
Yeah.
- [176:21]
Brandon Walker
They thrive on. On. On him being one of us or us rallying behind him.
- [176:25]
Miny
Yeah.
- [176:25]
Brandon Walker
And they don't like this.
- [176:27]
Dan
You can be a fucking idiot and they'll love you.
- [176:28]
Miny
Yeah.
- [176:29]
Dan
Like Les Miles. He won in spite of himself so much. And they loved him because they're gonna.
- [176:33]
Brandon Walker
Take care of the recruiting. They're going. Every. Every five star in Louisiana is raised to be an LSU Tiger. Every four stars raised to be an LSU Tiger. As long as you don't actively it up, you're gonna be fine.
- [176:44]
Miny
And.
- [176:44]
Brandon Walker
And I just don't think he is.
- [176:46]
Miny
Yeah.
- [176:46]
Dan
All right, Good talk. Brandon, I got a couple of questions, actually. Have you. This is.
- [176:50]
Brandon Walker
Can't tell if you're ending the interview.
- [176:51]
Dan
I'm not.
- [176:52]
Brandon Walker
Interview.
- [176:52]
Dan
I'm not. I. I got a question kind of out of left field. Have you looked at Washington State schedule?
- [176:59]
Brandon Walker
No. I know they play. It's bizarrely. At Ole Miss in a couple of weeks.
- [177:02]
Dan
It's like the most chaotic college football schedule that I've ever seen.
- [177:06]
Brandon Walker
Can. Can y' all just never ask me about Oregon State and Washington State? Because it makes me sad.
- [177:11]
Dan
Well, here's.
- [177:11]
Miny
It is sad.
- [177:12]
Brandon Walker
It makes me sad. There's two places that should be okay in football and should be.
- [177:16]
Dan
Yeah.
- [177:16]
Brandon Walker
Some conference should have thrown them a life raft and said, come on over here. We know that it went wrong for you guys, but come on over here. I don't. I don't like them floating in the. In the.
- [177:24]
Miny
Yeah.
- [177:25]
Brandon Walker
But who knows?
- [177:25]
PFT Commenter
They're going to link up. It's weird.
- [177:26]
Dan
They're playing against Ole Miss. They're going on the road to Mississippi. They're playing at Virginia. They play Oregon State twice.
- [177:34]
Miny
Yeah.
- [177:35]
Dan
They've got two games against Oregon. They should do it like. Like aggregate score.
- [177:40]
Miny
Yeah.
- [177:40]
Dan
Like in the epl.
- [177:41]
Brandon Walker
It's so weird that we're just marching on in college football without those two programs. Those programs are just doing weird shit like playing twice. They exist in a. They're technically playing college football, but they're not playing the same game.
- [177:53]
PFT Commenter
Isn't there going to be a new Pack 12 with the mountain West?
- [177:54]
Brandon Walker
It's coming. It's coming. But once you. Once you. Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, how do you put it back? Well, I agree.
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PFT Commenter
It's. It's. It's fucked up.
- [178:02]
Dan
And so many of these schools that they're playing because I feel bad for.
- [178:05]
Brandon Walker
Their staff and they're going to be 10 years behind. Nobody wants to go play Washington State, Oregon State, currently, they're going to be 10 years behind everybody else.
- [178:11]
PFT Commenter
All right, I got one last question for you, Brandon, because it's kind of off of this conversation. Roback? Rhobac.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take we are in year two of the 12 team playoff. I think it's working.
- [178:27]
Brandon Walker
I think it's absolutely work.
- [178:29]
PFT Commenter
I liked it, like, and I know there will be people like, there's a lot of things that have changed about college football and very nostalgic about college football. 20 years ago.
- [178:37]
Miny
Yeah.
- [178:38]
PFT Commenter
Washington State, Oregon State. Being that I missed the Pac 12. There's a lot of shit that's happened that I don't agree with. There's probably more shit coming that is going to suck. I like the fact that we saw Penn State and Oregon like, go at each other and it's not the end of Penn State. I like that Notre Dame is going to get another chance to be back in this thing.
- [178:57]
Brandon Walker
I love a world where we see Penn State lose that game. And 10 years ago that would have been crushing.
- [179:01]
PFT Commenter
It would have been over.
- [179:02]
Brandon Walker
And it's September 27th and all the hope is sucked out of the building. Well, now they don't have. I mean, they're. They're kind of allergic to hope right now because every time they get to a big game. But yeah, they're going to have a second chance to put this thing back together and get back in it. Ohio State last year had one of the most embarrassing losses we've ever seen and then launched an incredible run through the playoff. It was awesome. I love the fact that these elite teams, really, every team has a chance to, to right the ship after something goes horribly wrong. I think the playoff is great. I think 16 is going to be the perfect number 12's okay. But last year, the one thing we got to fix is last year we had a couple teams get in there just because their schedule.
- [179:40]
Miny
Yeah.
- [179:41]
Brandon Walker
And if we can tweak that and figure that out down the road and truly get the 12 best teams at the end of the season, that'd be great. I love the 12.
- [179:47]
PFT Commenter
The big complaint that I've seen is that it gives.
- [179:51]
Brandon Walker
I think it makes season better, by the way.
- [179:52]
PFT Commenter
Right. I do, too. I do too. Because you have these big weekends and you get into November where it's like a two loss team playing a two loss team. That game wouldn't have mattered at all. Now it could be everything. You get more games that feel like they matter going up leading up to the playoffs. The one complaint that I understand is you will have the same four or five teams win the national championship every year because you give a team like Ohio State a second shot, a third shot last year.
- [180:17]
Brandon Walker
But we had that anyway.
- [180:18]
PFT Commenter
What's the difference?
- [180:19]
Brandon Walker
We had that. Always had it turns out the elite teams are going to win the championship and that's how it's going to happen. But now you're never going to get.
- [180:26]
PFT Commenter
The parody that you have in the NFL and college football. And the fact that there's never going to be a team that starts in the 50s, right. Is like, oh, they won a title.
- [180:33]
Brandon Walker
But that's just how it is. That's how it's always how it's always been. It's how it's always going to be in November 2014. Second, a random year is the first year of the playoff. Probably had six huge games in November of last year. Probably 25.
- [180:44]
Miny
Yeah.
- [180:45]
Brandon Walker
And this year it's more wide open. I think we'll probably have 30 huge games and.
- [180:49]
PFT Commenter
And getting to the playoff is going to be for a lot of these schools like winning a national title. Like if Wisconsin ever gets the playoff, I'm like that was the coolest thing ever.
- [180:56]
Brandon Walker
Yeah. I think Indiana like last year. That's such a great story. Indiana making the playoff. Ole Miss is a good example. They're number four. And if Ole Miss makes the playoff, that's a huge fucking thing for them. Like this is. It's okay. There's more seats at the table. There's more chances for everybody to come away happy. And it you whittle. I, I'm glad. Who was the best team in college football last year?
- [181:15]
PFT Commenter
Ohio State.
- [181:15]
Brandon Walker
I'm glad their season wasn't over when they lost a message.
- [181:18]
PFT Commenter
But not as good as Ohio State this year.
- [181:20]
Brandon Walker
Don't think so. They were, they were the best team. They won the national title. And if people want to be moan that sorry they were the best team.
- [181:26]
PFT Commenter
They do just need to get more games at home stadiums. The second round should also be.
- [181:32]
Brandon Walker
You think it should be.
- [181:33]
PFT Commenter
Yes, all the way to my strips. It's so much when you play those. Like was it Boise and Penn State playing in Arizona?
- [181:40]
Miny
Yeah.
- [181:41]
Brandon Walker
Yeah. But here's the thing. Did we have any good games on campus last year? No. Right. None of them were good.
- [181:45]
PFT Commenter
That Was the first round. The first round is going to be tough.
- [181:47]
Dan
Wasn't Boise at Boise?
- [181:49]
Brandon Walker
No, Boise. Boise was in. They had to buy.
- [181:51]
Dan
The boys had to buy. That's right.
- [181:53]
Miny
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [181:54]
PFT Commenter
But that's. I do think it should be two. Two rounds at campus because there's nothing. The one thing that college football has that will always beat the NFL is the home environment on a Saturday.
- [182:06]
Brandon Walker
So the home games last year were SMU at Penn State.
- [182:10]
Miny
Yep.
- [182:10]
Brandon Walker
Clemson at Texas.
- [182:11]
Miny
Yep.
- [182:12]
Brandon Walker
Indiana at Notre Dame.
- [182:13]
Miny
Yep.
- [182:13]
PFT Commenter
Which is incredible. Like scene. And Ohio State and Tennessee.
- [182:17]
Brandon Walker
Ohio State and Tennessee. And that was a cool scene, too.
- [182:19]
PFT Commenter
That was very cool scene.
- [182:20]
Brandon Walker
None of the games were close.
- [182:21]
PFT Commenter
None of the games were close. But they have. You know what I'm saying? Like that's, that's the specialness. Like what the NFL's always be king. But what we saw at Happy Valley on Saturday night and in between the hedges, Ole Miss, like, you can't replicate those type of Saturdays.
- [182:37]
Miny
Yeah.
- [182:38]
PFT Commenter
And it's something special about on campus, so.
- [182:41]
Brandon Walker
Oh, you're right. More of that would be better. And I think when we go to 16, you could even. You could have two. Two rounds at home and still have whatever.
- [182:48]
Dan
So who's in your. If the playoff were today? Is that different from your top 12 list?
- [182:55]
Brandon Walker
Yeah, that's a little different. I don't know. I think there's so much we don't know still. Like when. When I do a ranking and people are wondering, hey, hey, why is Texas number five? Who have they beaten and beating anybody? They haven't beaten anybody. But let's. Let's call a spade a spade here. They had one game on the road against Ohio State and then they had their four nobody. So a lot of teams had their four nobodies to begin with. They had their four nobodies and now they start back really building up again. I think Texas, the defensive talent on that team is crazy. I think they've spent the last month of the season getting ready. I'm just speculating on. You're still speculating on so many teams in the top 10.
- [183:29]
Dan
Is now the time. Are you still buying Texas? Texas?
- [183:33]
Brandon Walker
Oh, I think if you haven't bought it by now, you waited too late. I think they're clearly the best team in the Big 12.
- [183:37]
Dan
It's too late to buy that stock.
- [183:38]
Brandon Walker
I think they are clearly the best team in the big 12. TCU. I would have given a chance. They went second best team is probably Arizona State, who lost to Mississippi State but has won two in a Row on the road at Baylor and then beating TCU at home. But I think Texas Tech outclasses them. Everybody in that conference by a mile.
- [183:53]
PFT Commenter
Agreed.
- [183:54]
Brandon Walker
And they got a tough one this week. Listen, Houston's quietly.
- [183:57]
Miny
Fritz.
- [183:58]
Brandon Walker
Willie Fritz, good coach. So. So Texas Tech's got a sneaky tough one. But I, I think the amount of talent they went out and bought and, you know, that used to be an insult and calling somebody a cheater, but now it's a badge of honor.
- [184:08]
Miny
Yeah.
- [184:08]
PFT Commenter
Good for them.
- [184:08]
Brandon Walker
Good for them.
- [184:09]
Dan
Congrats to their alumni.
- [184:11]
Brandon Walker
They went out and changed, Changed their paradigm, changed who they are, and now I think they're the easily best team in the Big 12.
- [184:17]
Miny
Yeah. All right.
- [184:18]
PFT Commenter
Okay, Brandon. Brandon Walker.
- [184:20]
Brandon Walker
So I just got through the whole interview for Nelly. Never came in.
- [184:22]
Dan
Never came in.
- [184:23]
Brandon Walker
Nobody came in?
- [184:23]
Miny
Nope.
- [184:24]
Brandon Walker
There was no surprise. Now, is there a Fournelli filter on my face?
- [184:28]
PFT Commenter
No. So he is probably going to say tomorrow. He would be correct.
- [184:34]
Brandon Walker
What are you about to say? Don't say it. Just don't say it. What if he just didn't say it? What if he just didn't say that he turned this down?
- [184:40]
PFT Commenter
He would be correct in saying that he turned it down. And then you came on. But we're. But it wasn't. It was kind of. It was fluid. It's like your rankings. It's fluid.
- [184:47]
Brandon Walker
Let's be honest. Water. Let's. Let's be honest. God's watching right now.
- [184:50]
PFT Commenter
He had a busy schedule today. We have a busy schedule.
- [184:52]
Brandon Walker
We have the yak. We have the yak at noon. We had this. We had this interview at 2:00'. Clock. You asked me to do this at 11:45 as you were just. You just walked out the door, said, hey, do PMT today. I said, okay, four. Nelli really turned it down.
- [185:04]
PFT Commenter
Well, he didn't turn it down. He said. I said to him, hey, can you come on today? And he said, I'm free. Between 12 and 2 and 3 and 6. The only time we had was between 2 and 3. So you know what? Best ability is available.
- [185:17]
Brandon Walker
I won this. I won this ability. I won this last year. I had a competition against it.
- [185:22]
Miny
Him.
- [185:22]
Dan
Who'd you have that won the championship last year?
- [185:23]
Brandon Walker
I don't remember how I won it. I just know I won it.
- [185:26]
Dan
I don't think at Ohio State. Did you?
- [185:28]
Brandon Walker
Almost certainly.
- [185:28]
Dan
Almost certainly.
- [185:29]
PFT Commenter
Almost certainly.
- [185:30]
Dan
I don't know that you did.
- [185:31]
Brandon Walker
I killed him in that playoff.
- [185:33]
Dan
No, this is this year.
- [185:37]
Brandon Walker
Last year I had Ohio State and I won the championship.
- [185:39]
Dan
That was Your. That was your pick.
- [185:40]
Brandon Walker
I won, didn't I?
- [185:41]
Dan
You did win.
- [185:42]
PFT Commenter
You did win. I won, motherfucker.
- [185:43]
Brandon Walker
As I won. Dingers only.
- [185:44]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, you win. You're a winner.
- [185:46]
Miny
Yeah.
- [185:46]
Brandon Walker
PFC, didn't you offer $1,000 cash to the winner of Dingers Only?
- [185:49]
PFT Commenter
You're did.
- [185:49]
Dan
You're a great winner. You're also the best luck loser.
- [185:52]
Max
How do you feel about your, your picks this year? For this competition?
- [185:55]
PFT Commenter
Yes. Your picks.
- [185:56]
Brandon Walker
I'm not even worried about it until.
- [185:57]
PFT Commenter
You actually have some good value. You have Penn State, Texas, Notre Dame, lsu.
- [186:01]
Dan
I gave you Texas.
- [186:02]
PFT Commenter
Oregon late.
- [186:04]
Miny
Oh, yeah.
- [186:04]
Brandon Walker
You're looking good.
- [186:05]
PFT Commenter
He falls off a cliff. Boise State, Baylor, Missouri's A and M.
- [186:08]
Max
And Texas Tech late though.
- [186:10]
Miny
Yeah, yeah.
- [186:11]
PFT Commenter
Tom has Ohio State, Clemson out, Georgia, Miami. That's a good pick. Alabama, Michigan, Utah. Caught Texas A and M and Texas Tech with the last.
- [186:21]
Brandon Walker
I mean, listen, once it was a draft, once you get past like seven or eight, it's, it's tough.
- [186:25]
Dan
Well, it looks like he had a M at 8. That's pretty good.
- [186:29]
Max
He also got Texas Tech at 13.
- [186:32]
Dan
Great draft. And I think we were giving you.
- [186:34]
Miny
Wow.
- [186:34]
Dan
And I gave you Texas. It says right there, pft. Put Brandon on Texas.
- [186:38]
Brandon Walker
No, it doesn't say that. It says also PFT's pick.
- [186:40]
Dan
Yeah, I gave you Texas.
- [186:41]
Brandon Walker
So after I said Texas, you were like, me too.
- [186:42]
Dan
I said, I'll put you on some game. You said, Texas. This might be good this year.
- [186:46]
Brandon Walker
They were number two in the country. No, they're pretty season number one.
- [186:48]
Dan
I, I told you about Texas.
- [186:50]
Brandon Walker
I appreciate that. You said the team that made the.
- [186:52]
Dan
Playoff two years ago, he said R2.
- [186:54]
Brandon Walker
That might still be true.
- [186:55]
Dan
Yeah, that, that is true. How do you feel about, about field storming?
- [186:58]
Brandon Walker
Are we still doing this?
- [186:59]
Miny
Yeah.
- [186:59]
Dan
I have one last question. Were you, were you concerned has field storming?
- [187:03]
Brandon Walker
I'm a little concerned that that was the greatest field storming ever and it might lead to field storming being pulled back entirely.
- [187:09]
PFT Commenter
Did you see that one Twitter account count? SEC fan who they hypothetically win field storming too. They're like, if this happened, the sec like everyone would have been dead.
- [187:20]
Brandon Walker
We got fine.
- [187:20]
PFT Commenter
Hypothetically, they win those.
- [187:22]
Dan
I love that.
- [187:22]
Brandon Walker
Mississippi State got fined $500,000 for, for a field storm that was nowhere even close to that. If they were in the SEC, they would get fined like $2 million.
- [187:30]
Miny
Yeah.
- [187:31]
Dan
Where do they get fine in the ACC?
- [187:32]
Brandon Walker
I have, I don't even know. I haven't seen anything.
- [187:34]
Dan
Virginia's never had this problem before.
- [187:35]
PFT Commenter
No, they're like, hey, you. You haven't been here. We got good for you guys.
- [187:38]
Miny
Yeah.
- [187:39]
Dan
The protocol on that.
- [187:40]
Miny
Yeah.
- [187:40]
Brandon Walker
They just sacrificed the Florida state receiver who disappeared into the crowd.
- [187:43]
Miny
Yeah.
- [187:43]
Dan
Squirrel white Was that Squirrel White was Squirrel White.
- [187:45]
Miny
Yeah. Okay.
- [187:46]
Brandon Walker
Well, yeah, he's been around long enough.
- [187:48]
Miny
All right.
- [187:48]
PFT Commenter
Thank you, Brandon.
- [187:49]
Miny
Yep.
- [187:52]
Dan
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- [188:31]
PFT Commenter
Okay, let's finish off. We have guys on chicks. Hank.
- [188:37]
Hank
My fiance has a work phone in his normal phone. Before he got his job, he screenshots his bets with his work phone and checks the box score on his normal phone. While we watch the games, his hands are double fisting iPhone like it's Bonnie blue does dicks on Thursdays, Sundays and Mondays. Is this behavior I have to expect throughout our marriage, even when kids come into play? Thanks, boys. Go saints.
- [188:59]
PFT Commenter
What is the two phones for again?
- [189:00]
Dan
One is for the box score of the game. The other is for the bets that he currently has in. I think. I think that's. It's fair. I also think that this is probably not written by a girl.
- [189:10]
Hank
I was about to say.
- [189:11]
Miny
Yeah, yeah.
- [189:12]
Hank
I think double fisting iPhones like Bonnie blues does.
- [189:15]
Dan
Like, I think it's written by a dude being like, I'm gonna write to them, pretend to be a chick and talk about dicks. So then they'll want to me as a chicken.
- [189:23]
Memes
We need more chicks to write in.
- [189:24]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, we need more chicks to write in. I would say also, you don't really need the box score because if you use DraftKings. Wonderful. DraftKings. They. It updates it as it goes.
- [189:34]
Dan
Yeah, you can track it.
- [189:35]
PFT Commenter
You can track it right there. Also, I like writing my bets out. It's fun.
- [189:40]
Dan
It's nice to have on a piece of paper.
- [189:41]
Miny
Yeah.
- [189:41]
PFT Commenter
Just looking at it.
- [189:42]
Brandon Walker
Or a whiteboard.
- [189:43]
PFT Commenter
Or a whiteboard.
- [189:43]
Miny
Yeah.
- [189:44]
PFT Commenter
Which never hits. I mean, we never hit the white. No, I don't think. I don't actually. Have we ever hit the. The whiteboard part? No, no.
- [189:52]
Dan
You know, actually, I think maybe once.
- [189:53]
Hank
Hit one last year.
- [189:54]
Max
I think once.
- [189:55]
Miny
Yeah.
- [189:55]
PFT Commenter
Let's do one that we can hit. Let's win one.
- [189:58]
Miny
Yeah.
- [189:59]
Hank
Okay, here's a theory. The super bowl halftime show is solely a thing to make Super Bowl Sunday more peaceful for the boys. It allows them to make a full day out of the super bowl as if it's a holiday. Because girls love the halftime show so much. Think about any other Sunday during the season. No halftime show, no pregnant Rihanna. And the girls are nowhere near as willing to allow absolutely nothing to happen. Besides.
- [190:19]
Miny
What?
- [190:19]
Hank
Watching football.
- [190:20]
Dan
The Brazil game had a halftime show.
- [190:22]
Miny
Yeah.
- [190:22]
Dan
Shout out, Mr. Beast.
- [190:23]
PFT Commenter
I also, I also think the halftime show is irrelevant for that. I think everyone watches the super bowl and makes a holiday out of it.
- [190:29]
Miny
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
- [190:30]
PFT Commenter
Also, pft.
- [190:31]
Miny
You.
- [190:31]
PFT Commenter
You.
- [190:32]
Miny
You were.
- [190:32]
PFT Commenter
You were correct in record time. Sage Steel looked through some bad, bad boonies and she found some demonic stuff.
- [190:39]
Dan
Oh, did she? Oh, yeah, dude. You have to find satanic stuff in the halftime show.
- [190:43]
Brandon Walker
That's.
- [190:43]
Miny
Oh yeah.
- [190:43]
Dan
That is actually the super bowl for schizophrenic people. Yeah, it is. That's what they live for, my panics. Josh Allen, Mass staffer.
- [190:54]
Hank
Hey, pmt. So I've gotten really into football in the last couple years. Do you think my boyfriend is bothered by this? Sometimes I feel like I'm invading his world and that guys don't actually like girls that like sports. I think you guys love to mansplain sports to us.
- [191:06]
PFT Commenter
Well, yes, duh. Yeah, we love to mansplain everything we like.
- [191:11]
Dan
Like sharing common interests. As long as we can teach you something about that common interest. As long as we feel like we. We have our claims staked on it already.
- [191:20]
PFT Commenter
A foundational piece of every relationship is a man answering questions they don't actually know the answer to. And a woman just being like, okay, that's a foundational piece. Like, there, there are many times where I just get asked a question and I'll give an answer because that's just my natural. I have to give an answer even if I have no idea I'm taking a wild guess and then just moving on.
- [191:45]
Dan
Yeah, if, like, if a girl said, did you see that Jaden Daniels has the highest quarterback rating in NFL history for a second year player through this many games? I would be like, that is so hot. But then if a girl was like, let me explain to you the numbers that Go into quarterback rating, I would feel so emasculated, I would never want to look at it.
- [192:04]
Miny
No. Yeah.
- [192:05]
PFT Commenter
Any of the nuance. I'm getting that. But the most recent one I got from my oldest was. He was like, why are sharpies called sharpies when they're not sharp? And I was like, dude, that one. I almost just drove off the side of the road. It's a good. Can't answer that one, but, yeah.
- [192:22]
Dan
Do they feel sharp in your ears, Max?
- [192:25]
Max
I always play with this sharpie. I don't know what that is.
- [192:29]
PFT Commenter
I think, yeah, girls, like in football is awesome.
- [192:31]
Dan
Yeah, it's great.
- [192:32]
Miny
Great.
- [192:32]
PFT Commenter
You just got to let. Like I said, you just got to let us answer some questions that we don't know the answer to and be okay with being like, yeah, that makes sense. Even though it doesn't.
- [192:41]
Miny
Yeah.
- [192:41]
Dan
Like, nothing. Nothing makes a guy hotter than being like, actually, you can't advance that fumble. I know you're excited about it for a second, but that's coming back.
- [192:49]
Miny
Yeah.
- [192:51]
Hank
All right, then.
- [192:51]
Brandon Walker
Last one.
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Hank
Meme said. Read this one last. If you want to have fun with it.
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Dan
Oh, okay. Finish us off.
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Hank
This is the question.
- [193:00]
Miny
Yeah.
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Hank
Do you guys think double penetration is gay? I mean, technically it is, right? Love you guys.
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Miny
A.
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Dan
It's. We. We're talking about B and V. Like, two Ds.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, two D. D and the V and A. D and the A. Yeah.
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Dan
D and the V. D and the A. That's what I'm saying. Or two D's in the V. Oh, like. Like you're starting to fire.
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PFT Commenter
Oh, either one.
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Max
No.
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Dan
Two D's in the V. That's a one dv.
- [193:34]
Max
Yeah, that's.
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Miny
There's not. There's.
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Max
There's enough room.
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Dan
There's some holes that are. 1D.
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Miny
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
This is also just like a comp. This is like, if we. We started talking about what, you know, what it'd be like to play in the NFL. Like, we're not guys that will ever be in the same stratosphere as any of this.
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Dan
That's. It's a whole different type of guy that. That is out there doing D and V and DNA at the same time. Yeah, that's.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Dan
I. I don't think I've ever found myself in a situation where I've come anywhere close to even thinking about that was going to happen.
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PFT Commenter
And I would say, no, thanks.
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Miny
Yeah.
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Dan
I'd be like, can maybe. Maybe me and you could just do it.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, maybe I'll just go D and V and then you can just do whatever you want after it.
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Dan
Yeah, there are a lot of dudes that. That do the DNA or DNM and DNV at the same time. That also has never been.
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PFT Commenter
No, no, not even close. I've been close. It's just porn talk.
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Dan
Yeah, yeah.
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Memes
Somebody woke up this morning just wrote that in.
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Dan
Yeah, yeah. Call me old fashioned. I like a little bit of intimacy.
- [194:38]
Miny
Yeah, yeah.
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Memes
Get your girlfriends right in. Send it to. Send to any girl. You know too many guys, right?
- [194:45]
Dan
Memes are. If you're a girl who lists license.
- [194:47]
Memes
Yes.
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Miny
Yeah, yeah.
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PFT Commenter
It was just. That was bad. That was not nice. That was bad.
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Dan
I know.
- [194:54]
Miny
If.
- [194:54]
Dan
If it was ever an apologize, I apologize.
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PFT Commenter
Numbers three. Oh, how do we not get that?
- [195:01]
Hank
I might have.
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Miny
No. Ah. Nah, man, he got that one.
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PFT Commenter
I actually might be rooting for memes today.
- [195:07]
Hank
22.
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PFT Commenter
I think I'm rooting for memes today.
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Dan
75.
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Memes
I need a win.
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Max
33.
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PFT Commenter
61, 14, 1999.
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Lane Kiffin
76.
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Dan
If I was in a double D situation, I just know I'd like. I'd try to cut the tension with a joke and that would just ruin the whole mood. Just be like, I'm trying me hardest.
- [195:35]
Miny
I try me hard.
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PFT Commenter
You see?
- [195:38]
Miny
Yeah. So close.
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PFT Commenter
Love you guys.
- [197:20]
Miny
It.