Ryen Russillo, CFB Talk, Blue Jays In The World Series, Lions Dominate The Bucs And The Sad Texans + FAQ’s

Summary

Pardon My Take — Ryen Russillo, CFB Talk, Blue Jays In The World Series, Lions Dominate The Bucs And The Sad Texans + FAQ’s

Episode Air Date: October 22, 2025

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Episode Overview

On this lively episode, Big Cat and PFT Commenter are joined by longtime friend and colleague Ryen Russillo (“The Ryen Russillo Podcast”) to break down a wild week in sports. The crew dives into the Toronto Blue Jays’ improbable World Series run, NFL Monday night doubleheaders (including the dominant Lions and floundering Texans), contentious college football debates, FAQ banter, and everything in between. Ryen brings sharp insight, classic self-deprecation, and stories from the sports trenches. The show is full of rapid-fire takes, sharp banter, and the unique unfiltered PMT energy.

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Main Segments and Key Discussion Points

1. Toronto Blue Jays Reach the World Series

Time: 03:10–14:50

• Clutch Performances and Playoff Heartache

  • George Springer delivers again:
    • "George Springer does it again. Maybe the most clutch postseason hitter of the last, what, 15 years?" — PFT (03:50)
  • Makes history with 24 postseason home runs despite recent injury.
  • Mariners’ misery:
    • Heartbreaking loss in Game 7, a 48-year drought still unbroken.
    • "Your season's over. Hey, that's sports, baby." — PFT (05:15)
  • Blue Jays’ fun core: Springer, Vladdy, Scherzer, Bichette.
  • Dodgers-Jays Series Preview:
    • Dodgers heavily favored due to deep roster and dominant pitching.
    • Vladdy’s confidence — shows up to ALCS Game 7 in a Maple Leafs jersey, taunting fate and the city’s meme culture.

• Banter on Fan Reactions and Clubhouse Celebrations

  • Springer’s injury vs. Mariners fans: okay to boo, it's playoff baseball.
  • Toronto’s “club-like” locker room and prospective mayor’s bet (Drake vs. Kendrick).
  • Mariners’ primal, gutted postgame scream—raw, relatable sports pain (13:12).

Notable Quotes

• "I love Vladdy’s big ass." — PFT (10:19)
• "There's nothing like playoff baseball." — Big Cat (13:31)

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2. NFL Recap — Lions Dominate, Texans Flounder

Time: 14:50–25:32

• Lions Bounce Back (Lions vs. Bucs):

  • Lions destroy the Bucs after a previous loss, showcasing grit.
  • Aidan Hutchinson dominates on D, Amon-Ra and Jameer Gibbs shine:
    • "Jameer Gibbs is the best running back in football. Because I think he is." — Big Cat (17:24)
  • Analytical nerds wrong: building around RBs and LB is working for Detroit (18:15).
  • Lions’ offensive line and unique plays highlighted.

• Texans’ Sad State (Texans vs. Seahawks):

  • Texans’ offense is a disaster, despite a strong defense.
  • Both teams try to give the Monday night game away.
  • C.J. Stroud’s body language called out, and PMT officially puts the Texans (along with Jags, Chargers, Falcons) in the “sick of their shit” category.
    • "In theory I like them, but in actuality I'm sick of their shit." — Big Cat (24:38)

• Doubleheader Format Critique:

  • Hosts agree late Monday doubleheaders drag; some games don’t belong in prime time.
  • "Texans playing late night didn't really feel like they were supposed to play that late." — Big Cat (26:11)

Notable Quotes

• "Dan Campbell’s gonna be just locking them in a cage, poking them with a stick all week." — PFT (15:40)
• "The Texans, I don't know if they practice plays on offense." — PFT (21:18)

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3. Hot Seat / Cool Throne

Time: 34:05–57:00

A favorite segment where the hosts roast, praise, and skewer sports and pop culture:

Hank

• Hot Seat: The “fake plain book love story” of Dua Lipa and her new boyfriend (“so we’re on the same page”—agonizingly fake, he claims).
• Cool Throne: The Utah Mammoth hockey team’s new branding.

PFT

• Hot Seat: Complaining about refs — ref Nate Jones literally saves JSN’s life on Monday Night Football.
• Cool Throne: Boston vs. New York sports rivalry–escalating coach "poaching" and friendly staff swaps between Celtics/Knicks.

Big Cat

• Hot Seat: Wisconsin Badgers football program (“absolute joke...the culture’s broken, the program's broken.”)
• Cool Throne: Stella Blue Coffee’s new ready-to-drink cans coming soon!

Memes/Max

• Hot Seat: Amazon Web Services (AWS) — technical failures delayed the podcast!
  • "You could spend hours attempting to press a button into an abyss because...the cloud you entrusted to back the button has withered away." — Max (53:08)
• Cool Throne: Baker Mayfield ("When he's back on the field playing with regulation equipment, those balls are going into hands and not into seats." — Max, 57:24).

Notable Segment Quote

• "Guys can't have hobbies." — Big Cat (51:04)

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4. Featured Guest: Ryen Russillo

Time: 61:10–129:49

Ryen’s Take Dump, Sports Deep Dives, and College Football Banter

• Ryen on Rebooting His Show at Barstool (61:10–66:45):

  • “Take hoarding” during podcast hiatus; promises nothing about his format is changing.
  • Navigating the business side of podcasting — retaining your feed, the importance of launch numbers.

• College Football: Candid CFB State of the Union (67:19–120:53):

  • Brian Kelly at LSU:
    • “Sometimes those spots are just so intense...the coach will go, ‘I'm not going to be miserable if I don't have to do this again.’” — RR (73:33).
    • Not a cultural fit, and lack of running game highlighted; fanbases’ dissatisfaction.
  • Ohio State/Big Ten vs. SEC:
    • Ohio State’s defense and dominance; the cyclical (and often hypocritical) logic of college football fan debates and SEC/Big Ten chest-thumping.
    • “Instead of just admitting it, that it was happening, that it was just a collective agreement from the rest of the country that now it has to all be propaganda.” — RR (86:56).

• Atmosphere Rankings & Best/Worst Fanbases (88:35–94:58):

  • Top college football stadiums: LSU, Tennessee, Florida Swamp, Oregon, (Penn State in the Big Ten).
  • “I've been to 60 plus of these places.”
  • Lubbock’s Halloween game against Texas “my favorite sporting event ever.”

• Indiana’s Rise and Coach Signetti (97:08–109:10):

  • Ryen (and PFT, Big Cat) analyze the improbable ascent of Indiana—Signetti’s bravado, program-building, and big-game wins.
  • “To do this with a place with such a dismal history...he deserves all the credit...for this guy to be like, ‘If we're just average in resources, then I can win here’...and he's done it.”
  • PMT panel shares more anecdotes about Signetti’s Saban/Harbaugh-like “offness” and hands-off program-building approach.

• Underrated Teams, Group of Five, and More CFB Tangents (109:10–121:23):

  • Shouts to Georgia Tech (Haynes King!), the American Athletic Conference’s top-heavy strength, North Texas, East Carolina, and more.

• NBA Quick Picks (121:58–124:43):

  • Ryen’s NBA title picks: Denver in the West, “I'm so down on the Sixers that I can't sit here and say if they don't get to the NBA Finals this is massively disappointing...writing the ship would be massive.”

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5. FAQs / Mailbag + Misc. Banter

Time: 133:10–143:10

• Spoiling The Sopranos for Hank (133:17)

  • The infamous podcast saga comes up again—Hank still holds a grudge.
  • “The way you just explained it...that’s really fed up of us, and hearing it back, it was fed up.” — Big Cat

• Off-Pod Careers, Real-World Skills (137:01)

  • Crew muses about being completely unemployable in “the real world”; imagines jobs they could never actually succeed at post-podcasting.
  • “I'm just a stupid, stupid person now.” — Big Cat (137:54)

• Who Smells The Best?

  • Surprise answer: Carrot Top! (142:26)
  • “He has his own custom cologne. That delivers.”

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Memorable Quotes & Running Jokes

• On Fanbases and Sports Cycles:

  • “It’s like, the thing that you can point to...there’s a really good chance your guy is going to do the exact same thing in six hours.” — Russillo (85:37)

• On PMT’s Own Incompetence:

  • “In terms of the real world, I am so fucking stupid. I don't know what I would do.” — Big Cat (137:19)

• On Hobby-Shaming:

  • “Guys can't have hobbies.” — Big Cat (51:04)

• On The Podcast Tech Fail:

  • “I was just sitting there with nothing to do until someone could wake up or Amazon could magically start working again.” — Max (55:40)

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Summary Table of Key Segments

| Time | Segment | Key Topics | |--------------|---------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:10-14:50 | Blue Jays World Series | Springer heroics, Mariners heartbreak, locker room celebration | | 14:50-25:32 | NFL Recap | Lions' dominance, Bucs’ collapse, Texans’ woes, doubleheader critique | | 34:05-57:00 | Hot Seat/Cool Throne | Hockey mascots, Dua Lipa romance, Jeff Saturday, AWS fail | | 61:10-129:49 | Ryen Russillo Interview | College football deep-dives, CFB playoff expansion, stadium rankings, Indiana, Group of 5 chat, NBA picks | | 133:10-143:10| FAQ / Mailbag | The Sopranos spoiler feud, post-podcasting life, who smells the best |

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Tone, Style, & Listener Takeaway

The episode is quintessential PMT: hilarious, loud, slightly self-deprecating, and full of sports obsession. Filled with deep-dive college football discussion, personal stories, running inside jokes, belly laughs (and sports pain) about MLB and NFL games, the banter is both welcoming to new listeners and a treasure chest for longtime fans. Ryen Russillo brings an “inside the industry” perspective while playing along with the playful chaos.

Listeners will walk away with:

• A sense of where CFB, the NFL, and the MLB postseason stand—plus what really matters to the fans and players.
• A dose of PMT inside jokes (spoilers, career incompetence, “guys can’t have hobbies”).
• A preview of Ryen Russillo’s new Barstool pod, full of the same sharp content as ever.
• A laugh at the expense of the world’s most dysfunctional sports podcast “office.”

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Selected Timestamps of Memorable Moments

• 03:50 — Springer’s clutch postseason home run discussion
• 13:12 — Mariners' primal post-loss scream
• 15:40 — Dan Campbell’s motivational tactics
• 17:24 — Big Cat: “Jameer Gibbs is the best running back in football.”
• 24:38 — Big Cat: “In theory I like them, but in actuality I’m sick of their shit.”
• 34:05–57:00 — Hot Seat / Cool Throne (highlights: Dua Lipa story, Utah Mammoth Hockey, AWS fail)
• 61:10 — Ryen Russillo joins for wide-ranging sports tangent
• 85:37 — Russillo compares college football tribalism to NFL fan reactions and politics
• 97:08 — Russillo on Indiana’s football miracle and Tom Allen
• 120:53 — Big Cat pushes for Jeremiah Love Heisman hype
• 133:17 — FAQ: The Sopranos spoiler saga for Hank

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For sports fans—casual or diehard—this episode is an indispensable mix of insight and belly laughs. Circle back for the CFB banter, stay for the unique PMT blend of self-aware madness.

Transcript

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[A]

Hey, football guy. Welcome to part of my take, presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, October 22nd, and the Toronto Blue Jays are in the World Series. It was quite a scene in Canada on Monday night. What a game seven.

[C]

That was.

[A]

Pft. George Springer.

[C]

It was. George Springer does it again. Maybe the most clutch postseason hitter of the last, what, 15 years.

[A]

Third all time in postseason home runs now, which is pretty crazy. That will be a trivia fact that you don't get right in 20 years.

[C]

Can I guess.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Can I guess the other two?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

One's got to be Manny.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

All time home runs in postseason.

[D]

I think the stat was go ahead.

[A]

Oh, it was go ahead. Home runs.

[C]

Is it?

[A]

Or is it most career post home runs? Manny is correct. Number one. Good call, pft.

[D]

But that is not the status.

[A]

Jose Altuve is second, Kyle Schwerber is tied for third, and George Springer's tied for third. Now he's third.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So I'm looking at it right now.

[C]

Insanely.

[A]

Most career postseason home runs. George Springer, his 24th home run, and boy, did it matter.

[C]

And he did it after getting absolutely drilled in the kneecap with a fastball just a few days before.

[A]

Yeah. So where. Where do you land? I saw there was a lot of karma because Mariners fans apparently jeered and booed George Springer when he got drilled in the kneecap and looked like he was injured. There were then Mariners fans being like, we were doing it because of his link to the Astros, not because we were rooting for his injury. I have no problem with all of it.

[C]

I.

[A]

Who cares?

[C]

Yeah. If he was, like, severely injured, then you would have to, like, apologize for booing him. Yes. But the fact that it was just really, really painful.

[A]

And then he ended your season.

[C]

And then he ended your season. Hey, that's sports, baby. Yeah, that's why we watch. But, yeah, the. The Blue Jays, they're a very fun Toronto Blue Jays. Well, so that's the thing is at the, at the games, they chant, let's go, Blue Jays.

[A]

Yeah, well, they're Canadian. They're allowed to do that.

[C]

I'm going to continue to say Toronto Blue Jays. I'm not going to be.

[A]

Yeah, you said Toronto Blue Jays.

[C]

Just Blue Jays.

[A]

Yeah, just.

[C]

I'm not going to be bullied by some. It was a one guy.

[A]

It was one guy. Yeah. Yeah, fuck that guy.

[C]

Your own podcast, buddy. You can say whatever you want, but the Blue Jays are. Yeah, they're. They're a fun team. They've got obviously, like.

[A]

Are you talking about the Toronto Jays?

[C]

I'm talking about the. The Blue Jays.

[A]

Oh, I. I know him as the Toronto Jays.

[C]

The Blue Jays, they've got some very fun players. We should be excited about that. The pitching probably is going to be a mismatch for. In favor of the Dodgers in the series.

[A]

But.

[C]

But they've got some clutch dudes. They've got Springer. They've got Vladdy. They got Max Scherzer. They got Max Scherzer, who is a psychopath and will do anything that he possibly can to win. I'll be rooting for Mad Max.

[A]

He will also tie the record for most teams played for in different teams played for in a World Series with four.

[C]

With four. So Lonnie Smith, the Rangers.

[A]

Right. He pitched.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Forget about that.

[C]

I. I feel like Max is a Nat for life, though. But they also have.

[A]

Tigers fans are not going to be happy about that.

[C]

I mean, he want to. He want to.

[A]

I know. You're right.

[C]

He's a great pitcher for the Nats.

[A]

Tigers having Verlander and Scherzer in their prime.

[C]

Insane. And officially, Bo Bichette is coming back now.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Everyone thought, myself included, he'll be back for the alcs. He was not. But then he said after the game he's coming back for the World Series. And if you don't know, Boba Shet, I think he had the second most hits in baseball this year. It's a big addition.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

For the. For the Blue Jays.

[A]

And the. And the. And the Toronto Jays get home field advantage. So that's. You know, listen, I'm not going to say it's not going to be like the Brewers. They're not going to the.

[B]

The.

[A]

The Toronto Jays are not going to lay down like the brewers did.

[C]

You know what's crazy is that the Blue Jays are. I guess you could. This is a Blue Jays stat when you're looking at the gambling lines for the series. But under five and a half games for the World Series is plus money. It's plus 125. So everyone out there that's thinking that it's a sweep or the Dodgers in five, you can get, you can make a pretty good return on that.

[A]

I hate that bet. Just because when you're, when you have a World Series where you have no rooting interests. I just want it to go seven.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know? Yeah.

[C]

Now I do. I also feel terrible for Mariners fans. Oh, it was. That was a tough night. The vibes were so high. Cal Raleigh hitting that home run into the. Their own bullpen. And the bullpen catcher who caught that, it was his birthday.

[A]

Yep. And it's just like this. This just shows playoff baseball. It's like you have one bat. It's not even a bad inning. It was like a bad, like two at bats where it's just. That's, that's all it takes and it's boom, your season's over. And they. 48 years the Mariners have been a franchise, they have never been to the World Series. They were that close. It's brutal. And it was even more brutal that the Seahawks were. Well, the Seahawks were winning. But when they had that, there was like that one minute where they just started showing Mariners fans watching the game in Seattle and seeing that they lost.

[C]

Well, there was, there was one exact moment and it was right when Springer hit the home run. It was side by side or. No, no, it was when they lost.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Officially at the end of the game, top of the ninth inning, two strikes. I was watching, you know, I had the multi view going on. So I had, I had the baseball in one, Monday Night Football on the other. And the ref in the football game went out to midfield and explained the fact that the Seahawks actually don't get safety, they don't get a touchdown. It's actually going to be a touchback. And the Texans will retain the ball at the exact time as J. Rod struck out.

[A]

It was not. Yeah, it was not great. I do feel gutted for Mariners fans, but it's. It's also. It's tough because it was not like Mariners, Yankees. It was.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The, the Toronto Blue Jays have not. Sorry. The Toronto Jays have not been to the World Series since Joe Carter. Since the back to back championships.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So And. And it is Canada's team. And I. I'll say this. The Dodgers are obviously favorites. The Dodgers are a super team. The Dodgers look unstoppable. If there's one guy like you, when you're going up against the Dodgers, you need one guy who's like them. I'm. I'm the man. And Vladdy is that guy. He think about this. Vladdy is so confident. He showed up to game seven of the ALCS to punch a ticket to the World Series in an Auston Matthews Toronto Maple Leafs jersey.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That is the ballsiest thing you could possibly do. You are literally asking for the entire world to meme you to death.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If things don't go your way in.

[C]

Game seven, famous game seven success Haver.

[A]

Austin Matthews and the Maple Leaf. That'd be.

[C]

Yeah. If like Connor McDavid showed up to a game seven wearing a Jim Kelly jersey.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's the equivalent. That's what we're looking. That's like if you won the 5050 wearing a Pete Rose jersey.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's like.

[A]

It'd be like if Connor McDavid showed up. Up 3:1 in a series with the Chris Paul jersey on.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You can't do that.

[C]

It's ballsy. As I do love. I love Vladdy's big ass.

[A]

And he's just, he's.

[B]

He's.

[A]

I mean, Max, you know, you're. You're a baseball guy. Like, though you need that one guy who's like him. Him all. He said it to the Yankees. He hated the Yankees. He's got that kind of aura. Swag. They're like it. We're underdogs. Who cares?

[E]

I think they got no shot.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

No, I love.

[A]

Now, Max, hold on. Explain, though. I think you've explained it before, but you're just rooting for the Phillies to be the only team to have had a chance against the Dodgers.

[E]

I just don't think they have the. The Dodgers are. The Dodgers are too good.

[A]

They don't.

[E]

They don't have the pitching.

[A]

I mean, they don't gossip. They have.

[E]

Guys like Gosman would be their fifth starter.

[A]

I know, I know. Gossman, you savage Scherzer, you need to. Guys just got to nut up. They got nut up.

[C]

I mean, if you look back at big game pitchers, Max Scherzer is right up there. Yeah. Yeah. Now he's old.

[B]

40.

[A]

He's old.

[C]

He's the kind of guy that now he'll like.

[E]

He had a good game, but. And that's the thing. The Mariners Lineup is good. The Dodgers lineup is also better.

[A]

The Dodgers have dudes everywhere. Well, I mean, the Dodgers have the, the, the, the scariest part about the Dodgers is they have, like, three absolute studs. And then they have guys who are having, like, Mookie Betts is a stud, but he's having a down year. But he could be good at anything. He's having a great playoffs. Like, I'm just saying, like, they're. If you even just take out. Like, if you're like, all right, if we can pitch around. Sh. And Freddy. Like, there's just guys everywhere.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

There's six Oscar.

[E]

And then like, Hernandez is just like a postseason.

[A]

Tommy Edmond's gonna hit a home run. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Max Factor fiction. You do hate. You hate the Blue Jays because of what Joe Carter did to you.

[E]

I was dead.

[B]

Or.

[A]

Actually, he's right. He was dead.

[C]

Yeah. You were dead.

[A]

He was not. If you're not alive, you're dead. He was dead. Yeah.

[C]

You were un.

[A]

Alive at the moment. You. You were pre born.

[E]

I mean, I can, I guess I, I get mad watching that clip, but I. I can't.

[A]

He was dead.

[E]

Really get mad. I don't.

[C]

But, you know, your, you know, your dad got mad.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I remember swimming around in his balls.

[E]

My dad was for sure not happy with that.

[A]

I like how, like, anything that happened before, you're alive just being like, I was dead for that.

[C]

Yeah, I was dead for that.

[A]

I was dead.

[C]

But Philly hates. Philly hates Toronto because of that.

[E]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What?

[C]

Max.

[A]

Oh, I should have. Sorry.

[B]

We're.

[A]

We're. We're 10 minutes in the show. Are, Are people able to listen to this show right now?

[E]

I don't know.

[A]

Okay, well, I don't know. Should you be soul patched?

[E]

No, no.

[C]

Max took down the cloud last night.

[A]

You didn't press the button.

[E]

I did.

[A]

I, I explain it to the listeners.

[E]

We were gonna. Zach. Zach was gonna bring it up in. In who's back?

[A]

Okay. All right, so that's a nice teaser. Hot seat. Cool throne. Okay. That's nice. Tease.

[E]

I'm. I'm still. I'm still asleep.

[A]

Should we.

[C]

Well, first, did you see. After the game, did you hear the scream, the primal scream from the Mariners clubhouse? Oh, yeah.

[A]

Incredible.

[C]

Can we, can we play that.

[A]

That relatable. What are you supposed to do besides just screaming at the top of your. Yeah.

[C]

Who were they interviewing? Brian Wu.

[A]

They were interviewing Brian Wu, who gave up the big home run to George Springer, which was.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you just hear this yell in the background.

[A]

There's nothing like playoff baseball. Like crowds Here.

[C]

Listen to this.

[B]

Having gone further than any other team in franchise history.

[C]

An awesome scream.

[A]

Also the, the, the. The Toronto Jays locker room. I've never seen a locker room go quicker into just a full on nightclub. It was insane in there. Yeah, they party like lasers and smoke and just looked good.

[C]

You think we're going to get a, A mayor's bet for this, this series? Kendrick Lamar and Drake.

[A]

Oh, I forgot about that. Nice storyline.

[C]

Big storyline in this one.

[A]

Huge storyline. I like that. They should go to a game together.

[C]

It'd be fun.

[A]

That would be cool. Yeah. Look at that. Look at this locker room. That's a straight up club.

[E]

That can't be there. That can't be the locker room.

[A]

That's the locker room that legitimately looks like a club. That's what I'm saying.

[E]

That's the biggest locker room ever.

[A]

It was instant, too. Oh, it's insane. Yeah. There's like.

[E]

There's a disco ball in there.

[A]

There's lights. There's a fish concert. How close? Full light show.

[C]

I'm just thinking about Drake. How close is Dodger Stadium to an elementary school?

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

See, might. Yeah, I can't. That's not gonna happen.

[A]

All right. Should we talk about a football? The double header from hell. Because it was like the, the first game. The Lions in the, in the box. Lions are just. That was the most. Dan Campbell awful loss. Like we're, we're still the, the best. We shove it down your throat. But the game was so frustrating because it felt like it wanted to be like a, A track meet shootout that just never broke out.

[C]

It also felt like Baker, at some point Baker was going to do his fourth quarter thing and bring him back. But he didn't have his best night last night.

[A]

He was so off.

[C]

He was off. Also the Lions defense was. They were. They were getting after him.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Like Hutchinson was getting after him and hitting them.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

And I feel like the Lions are officially back, back, back.

[A]

But they're never. If they lose a game, just bet on them the next week. Yeah, that's just what they do.

[C]

Dan Campbell's gonna be just locking him in a cage, poking him with a stick all week, getting them fired up, getting them angry, getting them violent. And it was. Yeah, it was a, A decisive victory.

[A]

Hell of a, Monroe. Thank you. Finally scoring first touchdown. But the Lion. So I, I was thinking about this. Yeah. But Baker, Baker had a very off night. It's okay to say that he was. He Looked bad. Like he, he. You could tell almost instantly he was air mailing guys he was missing wide open receivers. I feel like this does happen, you know, once or twice to everyone, even the best quarterbacks in a given season. And I'm not worried about the Bucks overall, though. Broken clavicle for Mike Evans sucks. He just can't stay on the field this year.

[C]

That was tough. I. I also thought Amon Ra had maybe the coolest play of the night, and it was on one of his teammates coolest plays of the night when Jameer Gibbs got that first down on that like, option pitch that they ran like almost a. A jet sweep or a reverse to. To. To Amon Ra, who then pitched it to Jamir Gibbs. J. Jir Gibbs gets hit behind the line of scrimmage twice and Amon Ra gets behind him and just grabs him and dives and shoves him forward past the first downline. It was awesome to watch. Watch this.

[A]

It was funny too, because Troy Aikman was just like, that's all Amon Rod's. Like, well. Or. Sorry, that. That's all Jir Gibbs like, well, Amon Rod was kind of. He had some help with him there. I have a take. Why don't we. Or here's. Yeah, it was a Monroe just, just getting him the extra yards. And yet Jameer, he's so fast. The. I have a take. Why are we never saying. And I'll. I'll fix this. Going forward, Jameer Gibbs is the best running back in football. Because I think he is.

[C]

He could be.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think that he gets obviously dinged for having to split carries with David Montgomery. But the best running back in football is. The answer is usually Christian McCaffrey or Saquon Barkley or Jonathan Taylor. I think it's Jameer Gibbs. He has played 39 regular season games. He's averaging a hundred yards and from scrimmage and a touchdown in 39 games. That's like. So he has 3,900 yards and 38 touchdowns in 39 games. He is so fucking good. I think I'm going to start saying that he's the best running back in football. I'm going to put more respect on his name. I think it is partially because he, you know, his first two years, he split a lot of carries with Dave Montgomery. Now it feels like they're like, all right, he is David Montgomery. Maybe not getting as many carries because Jameer Gibbs, like, that's one of the fastest I've ever seen someone on a football field.

[C]

Yeah. And they laughed at the lines on draft night. Dude laughed at him. Great.

[A]

The Lions, all the nerds and analytics were like, hey, you don't build your team out of running backs and linebackers. Guess what? The Lions did. And it works well.

[C]

They also have a great offensive line. But Jameer. Jameer Gibbs is. Yeah, he's definitely. I'd say he's without a doubt, top three running back in the NFL, I'm.

[A]

Saying best right now this season, by the way. Penny Sewell also going. I wish that.

[D]

I wish was so funny.

[A]

I wish he had gotten that block.

[D]

Because he was running so fast.

[A]

So fast. He's too.

[D]

He's running too fast.

[A]

Yeah, he overran himself.

[D]

He couldn't, like, slow down to make a block.

[A]

His body went too fast.

[D]

He was just like. I think he was just, like, really.

[A]

Happy he was running fast. He's just opening free.

[C]

Yeah, they need to. They need to get the ball in Penne Soul's hands more this season. I want to see him carrying the ball. I want to see him on a screen pass. I want to see him catching a lateral. I want to see that man in the open field with the ball in his hand, just running people over.

[A]

Also shout out, John Hussey. A lot of John Hussey.

[C]

A lot of John Hussey now. Okay, so the. The. The Lions were the better team last night.

[A]

Yes. And Baker was off.

[C]

Yeah, they. They deserve to win. They deserve to. To blow up. I guess you could call it a blow up, but it was. It was decisive. They deserve that. The better team. There was that fourth down challenge that turned into maybe. Was it really even a challenge? Was it Sky Judge? Was it Roger Goodell on a mouthpiece from New York telling them to overturn the call? There is something weird that happened during that call. I don't know if you. You heard John Hussey's explanation behind it, but I've never heard a rough talk like that before. Yeah, he came out after he went under the hood for a second time, and he said after a second look. He didn't say after further review. Every other ref I've ever heard has said after further review. He said after a second look. We gave it a second look, and then he announced what it was and he said, and also, we're giving Detroit back its challenge, and we're giving Detroit back its timeout. Like, he was almost playing to the crowd a little bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Every other ref I've ever heard, they do, like, the passive language. They're like, detroit will not be Charged with a second challenge. Detroit will not be charged with timeout. But they're like, no, we're going to give it back to him. Yeah, it was like. It was a staggeringly informal way of announcing that. It just seemed like somebody might have put that in John Hussey's ear.

[A]

That's just Hussy time, baby.

[C]

Yeah, it was. It was really strange the way it was presented.

[A]

Maybe the Lions deserved one from. From the control center.

[C]

After the Jared Goff.

[A]

Yeah, after the Jared Goff, by the way, to the point of the Lions building the team the way they built the team. Jack Campbell, which also was laughed about since tackle data began being tracked in 1999. Lions linebacker Jack Campbell is Detroit's first player to log at least seven tackles in each of his first seven games of a season. He's pretty good. That defense, when they get healthy, they're. That's a good defense. Yeah, that's a really good defense. Also, Jameer Gibbs, when he was asked about his juke, he said, I don't call it nothing. That's just me watching YouTube. And I don't really know what that means, but it sounds cool.

[C]

We got to watch more YouTube.

[A]

We got to watch YouTube and. All right, second game, I. I'm. I'm so done with the Texans.

[C]

Listen, both. Both teams tried to give this game away. The Texans, I don't know if they practice plays on offense. I don't know if they have a playbook. If it's just run the ball up the middle and then if it's a passing play, it's just like, okay, whoever's on the outside, just try to get open. I'll hit you downfield. Their offense was so frustrating to watch.

[A]

So frustrating. And it was the combo of frustrating to watch and also the late game. So you had to ask yourself, am I going to do this for another. For another half? And then the fumble. Who was a strip. Strip sack in the end zone for the. For the Seahawks to get it back to. Or. Sorry. For the Texans to get it back to a one score game. Will Anderson, you're like, I was right. About to turn off the tv.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then it happened. But God damn it, the Texans.

[C]

And they kept.

[E]

Go away.

[D]

That game was the ultimate. Like, I want to just turn this game.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Give me a reason to. And then they just wouldn't.

[A]

Will Anderson kept us all awake.

[C]

It's the entire Texans defense. The Texans defense made it impossible to stop the game because they kept turning, they kept forcing turnovers.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That defense is Incredible.

[A]

It's so good. It's so good. It's just wasted on. On whatever the. I mean, it's a lack of weapons, obviously. The offensive line stinks. CJ Stroud also. He doesn't look great.

[C]

No, he does. Misses guys until, like, late in the fourth quarter, he was stuck at like 130 yards passing. He wasn't really doing much. There was no creativity. Also in the offense. The. The offensive coordinator for the Texans calls plays like he hates his own team. He's like, he'll do the thing where if you can't get a yard, we don't deserve to win this game.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So let's just run the ball up the middle and prove we can get a yard. You're not going to get a yard with that offensive line against the Seahawks defensive line. And the Seahawks defense is also, like, world class. The Seahawks defense is really good. I don't think. I thought Sam Darnold actually played pretty well.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And with jsn, it feels like that's. That's the thing that can take the Seahawks to the next level. Right now. JSN is probably having the best season of any wide receiver.

[A]

I was going to say that was my other hot Jameer. Gibbs is the best running back. Jackson Smith and Jigba is the best wide receiver this year.

[C]

He's having the best year.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. For sure.

[A]

I know that the answer would be Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson and cd.

[C]

I might even put Puka.

[A]

Puka. But he's tied for. Sorry. He's first in yards. He's tied for fifth in receptions. I think he's third in receptions of all wide receivers. And he is four. Four touchdowns on the season. He's three games in a row over 100 yards.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

I think credit to the Seahawks too, for saying, hey, we can trade dk.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, we have a dude here who can be a true number one and everything can fill in after him.

[C]

And they. He was like, in the slot more last year.

[D]

Right.

[C]

And so now they're moving him out and he's even better out there. He's had over 79 and a half receiving yards in every game this season except for one. Except for Thursday night when he had 79 yards.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. But the. The Seahawks offense, they. They continue to be fun to watch because they take so many shots downfield.

[A]

Yeah. I'm buying the Seahawks, they just, they bomb it.

[C]

And the funny thing to me is their running game because you never know who's going to look like their number one back. On any given night, like last night, I thought Charbonnet looked stronger, more explosive. And then every other night I feel like I'm watching Walker being like, they need to give this guy the ball more.

[A]

Yep. I have four teams that I put in the Texans category of in theory I like them, but in actuality I'm sick of their shit. And it's the Texans, it's the Jaguars, it's the Chargers and the Falcons. Those four teams, in theory, theoretically, I like them.

[C]

Yeah. But they're off.

[A]

But then they play and I'm, I just get a. I get so frustrated watching him play.

[C]

The offense was bad last year too.

[A]

No, I know C.J.

[C]

Stroud, he's I think second team, all bad body language.

[A]

But still they, they, they won a playoff game last year. They did, right?

[C]

That defense did.

[A]

I know. Yeah. Well, the. C.J. stroud was pretty good in that game too.

[C]

Yeah, he was, he was pretty good. But I mean it was what Herbert threw. Four turns, four picks, I think.

[A]

Yeah. He was not. He was not great.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

His best game.

[C]

CJ Stroud seems really, really bummed out. He seems just as bummed out playing for the Texans as we see as we seem watching the Texans.

[A]

Are we done with Monday night doubleheaders? Is that it officially? Hopefully.

[C]

I hope so.

[D]

It's gotta be.

[B]

It's weeks.

[C]

Although I do like the back to back games. I just don't like them. It felt like this was later.

[A]

What do you mean?

[C]

I don't know. It felt like this.

[D]

I'm with you.

[C]

I don't know if it started at the same time, but it ended at like 12:30 and the game just dragged on.

[A]

Yeah, they did. They've done it back and forth.

[B]

The.

[A]

When, when the Bears played the Commanders, that was a staggered start.

[D]

They did two that were staggered, two that were back to back.

[A]

They're probably just testing.

[D]

But the. I think maybe it was just because the first one was Chargers, Raiders. And that just feels like a later game.

[A]

Yeah, that does feel.

[D]

The Texans playing late night didn't really feel like they were supposed to play that late.

[A]

Yeah, that's actually a really good point that I agree with because the Texans are on a late night team. Chargers, Raiders.

[D]

It's like they should, they should be playing at 10 o' clock every time.

[A]

Yeah. This was Raiders Seahawks. Yeah, it would have made perfect sense.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh man. We have a. We have a Raiders Monday night game.

[D]

Oh, Commanders, Chiefs.

[A]

We have a Panthers Monday night.

[D]

That's going to be scenes pfg.

[C]

Absolute scenes in Arrowhead oh, we have.

[A]

A Cardinals one tonight.

[B]

Game.

[D]

Cardinals, Cowboys. Gross.

[A]

We have some gross Monday night games.

[D]

Eagles, Packers.

[A]

They can flex some of these. Oh no. We have a Dolphins Monday night game.

[C]

That's I think that's flexible, isn't it? They have to Flex 15.

[A]

Flex it now. Do it right now.

[C]

Imagine this. It's December 15th. It's like a little snowy, a little sleety outside and you've got TUA going into Pittsburgh. How does that end? I don't know.

[A]

Not good. Not good for anything. Is still going to be the quarterback for the dolphins. Mike McDaniel did say two will be a starting quarterback this week and his expectation is that they will not throw 10 picks.

[C]

Okay, that's good.

[A]

So that's a good expectation.

[C]

That's good. Hey, under promise over deliver if he throws nine picks. Hey, I told you. Yeah.

[A]

Should we, do we have anything else to clean up?

[C]

I don't really.

[D]

Are you going Monday?

[C]

I think I'm going to have to go. Yeah. I, I, it's Monday night.

[A]

Your team needs you.

[C]

You never know. I'm not going to back down. Yeah. Actually, you know what? I might just flip my mental. I might, I might put on my, my Hank hat for a second. We're talking about an October football game. Like wake me up when it's playoff time. This team doesn't, we don't, we don't even take things seriously until the playoffs. We're a playoff team. Okay. That's the championship mentality. Okay. That's what Hank criticized before last year was not understanding how to be a winner.

[D]

Right.

[C]

Like who cares about October? How many teams have started off 3 and 3, 4 and 4. 3 and 4. And then gone on and had playoff success a lot. It happens all the time.

[A]

Pft. I had a question for you about Magic Johnson. Does it suck? I have alerts on for him.

[C]

Yeah, same.

[A]

And him just dropping random commanders tweets because last on Sunday night.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He dropped one at one in the morning and it just was for my commanders. What a difference a year makes. We had a very few injuries last season but a lot so far this season. That was the whole, that was the whole tweet facts.

[C]

That's what Magic.

[A]

But just it does it, it would piss me off getting that random alert at one in the morning. Yeah.

[C]

I mean I, I also have had Magic Johnson notifications on for quite some time to stay current on all the breaking news 24 hours later. And yeah, last year it was great. Where randomly on like a Tuesday morning he would Tweet out like, wow, what a great game by my commanders against the Tennessee Titans last week. And then he'd just, like, list two stats from the game. It's not. It's not as fun this year when it's negative news. But he's right. I mean, there's just a ton of injuries, so. But you know what? Screw it. Money. This is. This is championship DNA. All right? This is what you have. These are the games you have to surprise people and win. You go into Arrowhead, the Chiefs look like they're unbeatable. The spread is, what, ten and a half points? Nine and a half. I don't know where it's at right now. This is a game that you have to win.

[A]

What is it?

[E]

On DraftKings, commanders currently have an 11 chance to make the playoffs.

[C]

11. Yep. That's fine.

[D]

It's gonna be a lot higher after you go into Arrowhead and win.

[C]

Yeah. Statement game. Statement game. Passing of the torch.

[A]

Will you be going moneyline on the Commanders? That was to Hank. I. I assume you don't need to because you're rooting for the commanders very hard. Plus 4. 55. Hank, where you gonna get in this hole?

[D]

Yeah, I will. I've been. I've been. I'm on the. You know, I love Baker, but I'm. I'm now on, like, betting on outcomes that help Drake May win the mvp. Like last night, I was on Baker. Interception, under, yards, team total under.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And it's now we got Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes in the. In the cross.

[A]

Did you bet Drake made to win the mvp?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I was gonna say that's probably easier way to do that than having to follow along.

[D]

Well, no, yeah, I bet. I bet it now. I'm trying to.

[C]

All right, here's a fun little thing that I did.

[D]

He jumped a third last night.

[C]

Last Tuesday, October 14th, he saw.

[A]

He's fourth.

[C]

I put a. I put a bet on the commander's money line in Arrowhead on Tuesday.

[A]

Great line value.

[C]

Incredible line value. It's plus 205, the bet that I got. I think they're now plus 800.

[A]

They're plus 450.

[C]

Okay. Plus 450.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So, yes, I do have a bet on Commander's money line for Monday night.

[A]

Hank is now offended by DraftKings.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That Baker is third and Drake May's fourth.

[D]

That is offensive.

[A]

It's offensive to you.

[C]

I mean, you can make money off that, though, Hank.

[D]

True.

[A]

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[F]

Yeah.

[D]

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[C]

It was quite everything. It was quite a mat. Things got serious.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Things were uncomfortable for Memes and Max.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And Zach, a little bit on the course.

[A]

Gravity. It's game time. Stock up on ice cold twisted tea today. Hank. Hot seat. Cool throne.

[D]

My hot seat.

[E]

I.

[D]

It's.

[B]

It's.

[D]

I just can't. I couldn't help myself but to bring up the story because it's just so fake. Even though it's, like, Hollywood gossipy love story. Whatever. Page six.

[A]

Go on.

[D]

Dua Lipa.

[C]

Huh?

[D]

You're familiar.

[A]

Dewey.

[D]

It's dating this guy, Callum Turner, who I don't really know, but whatever.

[C]

Sounds like you're jealous.

[A]

Callum. Sounds like a hot guy name.

[D]

Yeah, no, he's hot guy. She's hot. It's a hot couple. They're hot. No beef. But he revealed to the Sunday Times fiance. So I guess fiance. He revealed that they were reading the same book the night they first met. We sat next to each other on a plane.

[C]

Huh.

[D]

Realized we were reading the same book, which is crazy. It's called Trust by Hernandez. I had just finished the first chapter. I told her, and she looked at me and said, I just finished the first chapter, too. And I said, so we're on the same page.

[A]

Ah, that's so gross.

[C]

All right. You think it's fake?

[A]

You think he set it up?

[C]

I. That's what I'm thinking, Big cat. I'm thinking. I'm thinking my man Callum did some digging behind the scenes, found out what book she was reading, bought that same book, maybe at the airport bookstore, and then brought onto the plane so they'll have something to talk about.

[A]

He's an English actor.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, man with an English accent saying, oh, we're on the same page.

[D]

Oh, so we're on the same.

[A]

So we're on the same page.

[C]

I'm just trying to.

[A]

That's. Yeah.

[D]

Puddles is, too.

[A]

Yeah, you got her.

[D]

There's too much. Too much. But not. Yeah, whatever.

[A]

You don't love you don't love love.

[D]

I love love. I just. This one sounds like I couldn't. And it's. Who cares? It's Hollywood.

[C]

He couldn't imagine himself bonding with a woman over a book.

[D]

That's the thing on a plane.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Fake is plain book story. Love story of all time.

[A]

I can't think of one.

[D]

My cool throne is the Utah hockey.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[D]

Hockey team.

[A]

They have had one.

[C]

They had one last year.

[D]

The Mammoths.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The Mammoth.

[A]

Did it take a while to get to. To you, the news?

[D]

Yeah, I. I knew they had a hockey team. I didn't know it was the Mammoth. I thought they might have changed.

[C]

The Mammoth is.

[A]

Is this year.

[D]

Last year. That's what I thought. That's where I got confused. I saw the Sharks because the Sharks haven't won. And the coach said he was gonna. He would give up his kid to get a win, which is tough. Like five games in the season, but it's tough kid.

[A]

He's basically saying he hates his kid.

[D]

But then it was like they lost the Utah Mammoth. And I was confused because I didn't know that. I didn't know that was their mascot.

[C]

So. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

So cool.

[C]

That was cool throwing. Knowing the Utah mascot.

[D]

Yeah. Cool down for you guys. I thought I was going to, like, be a reveal.

[A]

You thought. You thought you're going to reveal that to us? They did a big reveal two weeks ago.

[E]

You revealed it to me, Hank. I had no idea.

[D]

Thank you.

[A]

Well, you also didn't know that there was a London game until, like, midnight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sometimes you miss.

[C]

I do like the logo, though. The logo is metal, as it's way.

[D]

Better than the hockey club.

[A]

Yes. And he broke out of a big ice block. The Mammoth.

[C]

I like that. I like when they do mascot origin stories. Yeah. So like the birth of it.

[A]

Yeah, Like. Like Dinger.

[C]

Dinger. Or when they had the. The robo duck from Oregon pop out of the show.

[A]

Yep. Shout out to Mammoth. Shout out to Mammoth.

[C]

Shout out to Mammoth.

[A]

We should do that as a weekly segment. The big reveal. Just something that we can try to. Try to Try to stun each other with something that has been out for a while.

[D]

I mean, you guys are acting like. I'm sure there's a lot of other listeners that were to not know that the Utah Hockey Club is.

[C]

I think that's fair. That's fair, Hank.

[D]

Yeah. Thank you.

[A]

I just saw the video when it came out, so if I hadn't, I'd be with you.

[E]

I bet there's listeners that didn't even know the hockey season started yet.

[A]

I bet there are listeners that are shocked that they're listening right now because Max finally pressed the button this year.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Memes is loving this.

[D]

Oh, this logo is awesome.

[A]

Yeah, it's great.

[D]

The mountains inside of the head.

[C]

NHL has been on a heater with new logos like the Kraken. I'm all on board for that. Mammoth. Things are getting better. Tuskegee is his name.

[D]

Tusky is the mascot to play Fleet with Mac Tusk.

[C]

Love that.

[A]

Pft.

[C]

My hot seat is complaining about the refs.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because we actually had a ref in the NFL save a man's life last night. Jsn.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Under attack on the bench. And then NFL official. He used to play actually in the league. Nate Jones was, I think it was a side judge. Sprinted over, weaved his way through the mosh pit, and then threw himself onto JSN like a live grenade. Or he actually did become that meme of the soldier that's protecting.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

The person, the baby, the sleeping baby. And he shoved JSN's face into his titties, gave him a little motorboat, little lap dance on the sidelines. I just. I wish that it had happened to, like, one of the league darlings. If this had happened to Patrick Mahomes and you have a ref that's hugging him, that would have been such a good thing that we could just always refer to in the future, but shout out to this guy, put his life on the line. So we should be. We should be saying his name every time we talk about. What's his name? John Hussy.

[A]

John Huss.

[C]

For every John Hussey, there's getting hussy time. There's 10 Nate Jones out there that are willing to die to protect a player in the NFL. So credit to him.

[A]

Strictly facts.

[C]

It was great. And then my cool throne is sports rivalry, specifically the Boston New York sports rivalry. It's back on, Hank. It's back on. There was reports that came out yesterday that, well, there's two. Two sides to it. The Knicks tried to hire Joe Missoula last year. You remember when the Knicks were doing their thing where they just, like, asked other teams if they could have their head coaches, and they all said no. And they all said no. They really tried to get Joe Missoula. And then the Celtics were like, no. And also, here's a new contract. Joe Missoula. So we're keeping you around. Now, if. Thank God, if James Dolan was. If he was smart, I would say that he's Trying to get other teams to just have to pay their head coaches more and driving the price up. I don't. I think that was completely unintentional on his part. But how funny would that have been if the Knicks had hired me Memes? That would have been pretty funny, huh?

[B]

That have been incredible.

[C]

Yeah, you tried. And now the Celtics are firing back because the Celtics had. Joe had Thibodeau at practice this summer, working with the team on defense, doing, like, film breakdowns.

[D]

I think it was, like, this week.

[C]

It was this week. I think it was yesterday. They were doing film breakdowns. I know the story came out yesterday, but he was doing, like. Yeah. Defensive coach, like, actually coaching the Celtics.

[D]

He went through the film of the eastern, like, the playoff series.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And broke down how the, like how they won. Yeah.

[A]

That's crazy. Yeah, I, I, he loves ball so much. He's got to be around ball.

[C]

They probably just asked him if he, like, wanted to show up and watch a practice, just, like, you know, be around other coaches. And he probably came prepared with, like, film and, and, like, a PowerPoint that he would show each player. So, yeah, this is good. Good for the rivalry, good for the sport.

[A]

That is good for the sport. Great for the sport.

[D]

You say Missoula said he would, he would take. He would take Jason. Jason Brown down to the death.

[A]

He would take Chase.

[D]

They said who would win in a fight? Yeah, Brown was like, I would win in the fight. Missoula said I would win in a fight. And Missoula said, like, if I'm going to death, you're coming with me.

[A]

Yeah, y.

[C]

Believe it. But, like, right now, with the, the Achilles and everything. Yeah, I got Missoula.

[D]

That was Jalen Brown.

[C]

Jalen Brown. Oh, that one. I think it would be a double kill.

[A]

I think I take Missoula still.

[B]

Yeah, he's.

[A]

He's the type of guy who take Missoula over anyone. He. He wants to be in a fight.

[D]

Yeah. And wrestling guys that can wrestle can.

[A]

Missoula versus Harbaugh.

[C]

Missoula.

[A]

Harbaugh's old Missoula Versan.

[C]

Missoula Campbell.

[A]

Oh, come on.

[D]

Missoula is like, the type of guy to know, like, your pressure points. Dan Campbell, like, tap you in a place that you don't even know hurts, and then you're just dead.

[C]

Dan Campbell would.

[A]

Yeah, I think he'd bite his knees, literally.

[B]

Missoula.

[A]

Okay, my hot seats. I have two. I gotta remember what my second one was. Oh, first one. Did you want to talk about LeBron.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

We could talk about it.

[D]

Hilarious. I thought it was.

[A]

What was the exact quote.

[D]

I thought it was NBA Central.

[A]

I did, too. And then I literally.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Russell Westbrook said that he was. I can't deal with his fake. His fake.

[D]

Did you see the Will Smith. Like, they had Will Smith come in and. Well, it was like they were doing a team meeting. LeBron and Anthony Davis got out and left. They got up and left. Russell Westbrook went to laugh, leave. Pat Bev was like, you gotta stay. Like, those guys won a championship. You didn't like, you gotta stay. Then they started fighting Pep.

[A]

Evan Ross.

[D]

Yeah, about that. They started fighting. Ham came back with Anthony Davis and LeBron. Then Will Smith came in to do, like some type of speech.

[A]

The actor.

[D]

The actor supposed to be 30 minute Q A. LeBron asked question after question after question after question. And it went on for like an hour.

[A]

So he just had a conversation with Will Smith in front of everyone, and.

[D]

Russell Westbrook was fed up. There's a hilarious picture of the team with Will Smith after. Russell Westbrook is not smiling at all. And that's when he's like, I can't do this fake.

[A]

I hate that fake. I just can't do it. LeBron did a very funny report.

[C]

He did a podcast with Will Smith in the locker room in front of all his teammates.

[D]

Yeah, it's like, let's do a Q A, everyone. And then it was just LeBron, like, question, LeBron question, LeBron question. And like, I guess he was just, like, doing, like, movie quotes and he's.

[C]

Like, looking around the room. Wait, no. No other questions. Well, if you guys aren't going to take advantage of this great opportunity, I'm going to.

[A]

That is so funny.

[C]

I think LeBron might be a Scientologist I love. I think he might be so deep into Hollywood right now that he's just. He's. He's getting his theatons checked or whatever. He's ascending to the ninth level.

[A]

You sound like you've been sitting next to Jerry for a little bit.

[C]

No, Scientology. Scientology is a real thing, man.

[A]

It is.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Let Russ be Russ. I love Russ. His stock is all the way up.

[C]

I heard Pat Bev was like, russ, you haven't won a championship. You do not deserve to fly first class. And then Russ flipped out on him. It just went nuclear.

[A]

Yeah, fuck that. I'm on the first class.

[C]

Wrote a blog about him and everything.

[A]

Four plays on it. I'm on it. Okay. My hot seat one is I'll keep This brief Wisconsin football just because they're the worst team in college football. Power for college football. It's an absolute joke. What's happened to like the program, they haven't scored a touchdown in two, two games. We're, we're losing in completely non competitive ways. We do have the hardest schedule in the country.

[D]

What was that net graph you tweeted? I was trying to understand that.

[A]

There's. I.

[D]

It was like worse.

[A]

Can't remember what. Who tweets it? If you can find it. Max, it's, it's. Did we get beat as bad as. As it says and this guy, I want to shout him out, tweets it every single week. Where essentially did you actually deserve to lose or was it really, really close and you. The ball bounced, you know, against you and you didn't end up. Here it is. Parker Fleming, stats of war. Great, great account. Did we really get beat that bad? Net success rates in week eight. See all the way to the right. Ohio State beat the fuck out of the Badgers.

[C]

Ohio State's a great team, but they are.

[A]

They. The ad came out, Chris McIntosh came out and essentially said, we're not going to change course, we're just going to try to throw more money at it. The money is probably what the NCAA is giving every school. They're giving every school 20 million in the power four next year. So they were going to spend it anyway. They're going to pretend that this is new money. The culture's broken, the program's broken. Football matters to universities more than people want to admit. I think that if you have a school, a Big ten school and SEC school where your football program dies, you are going to lose admissions, you're going to lose money. Donors pride in the school. So that's why the Chancellor needs to wake up. Wake the fuck up. Chris McIntosh. Luke Fickle. I know both the guys, they're nice guys. I'm not going to say anything mean about them. They both are wrong for the job right now. And to the sunk cost fallacy of essentially saying we made a mistake, we're on a bad path, let's throw more money at it will get us deeper into a hole. And I'm starting to think now they're going to be bad for five to seven years minimum. And if they just keep going down this path, it's going to be a decade.

[C]

Do you think that they're going to spend more money or do you think that like, do you have any knowledge that they're just taking the new money that's coming in.

[A]

I. I don't. I. I think they might try to spend more money, but again, it's sunk cost fallacy where the new money is not going to fix the culture, which is broken. Luke Fickle, I thought was a great hire at the time. It has been a disaster. I still think he could be a good coach somewhere else. Not at Wisconsin. You have to look in the mirror and say, this is not working. We need to clean house. Who's going to look in the mirror? I don't know. Hopefully the chancellor does. But clean house because it's very stupid and it's frustrating and I'm very depressed about it.

[C]

Neutral field game. Wisconsin versus unc.

[A]

Unc.

[C]

You think UNC Wisconsin.

[D]

Jmu.

[A]

That's jmu. Easy. Jamie's good.

[C]

I love Madison.

[A]

It's. They're so bad. They haven't scored in two weeks. They don't score. They don't have anything. They look like they're getting punked everywhere. I feel bad for the guys on the team because they're not being put in a good spot. And now you're basically saying, hey, we're going to just keep doing it. They have played a very, very hard schedule. We have Oregon. Who's wearing the coolest jersey.

[D]

Yeah, I was going to say, at least that game will be vibey.

[A]

Look at this. We've scored 10 point, 20 points in the last four weeks. Two touchdowns.

[C]

Do you guys do sad jump around? Yeah, like, if you're getting your ass.

[A]

I have friends who went to the game, the Iowa game. They said it was so depressing. It's. It's just an absolute disaster. And you know, the. The only thing you could say about Luke Fickle, I will say the one thing that he has gotten a little screwed at. He has had just the worst luck with QB injuries. Every year our QB gets injured, but still, you're getting paid a lot of money to build a roster, to build a culture.

[C]

Have you thought about it?

[A]

Guys aren't getting better, let's just say.

[C]

And we, you know, never talking about another. Another man's job. Fickle might not be the best fit there right now. I don't know if they're actually going to stay with him. It seems like he's probably going to be gone no matter what they'll say right now about the guy. But who would you want next?

[A]

Jason Eck, Badger, New Mexico head coach.

[C]

No James Franklin culture.

[A]

I don't think James Franklin would take the job. I would take James Franklin, Jimmy Leonard as well. Although that will not happen if Max still has a job. I. The other, the other part I think they're doing with the sunk cost fallacy is Florida's open, Penn State's open. Auburn's probably going to be open. There's a lot of premier jobs that are open. Ole Miss, if Lane goes to Florida.

[C]

Arkansas.

[A]

Arkansas. So they're saying, we don't want to compete against that. Guess what? You don't compete against that. The. The program's bottomed out. You have to look in the mirror and say, where. Who are we as a program? We are not even a guy who's going for the Penn State job is not going for the Wisconsin job anymore. I mean, it was. The gap was smaller 10 years ago, but it still was always going to be Penn State. So have some self awareness and realize where you're at and that it's a disaster. I liken to the Titanic. They're basically playing. The ad releasing that statement yesterday was essentially just taking a. A violin out as the sink go. As the ship goes down.

[C]

I think those guys get a bad rap though. Shout out to the band members of the Titanic. They knew they were going to die.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

They still just want to put a little bit of joy at the very end. Good for them.

[A]

My other hot seat is guys because I saw this the other day. It was the top five least attractive male hobbies.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And this is bullshit. But one is playing video games. Okay. Zach. Two is collecting figurines.

[C]

Mm.

[A]

Three is crypto. Four is online trolling. Five is gambling. Those. Those are the five funnest things to.

[E]

Do on online trolling. Has got to be number one.

[A]

Says playing video games. Dude.

[C]

You think online trolling, like I memes.

[A]

Memes just got his entire life taken down.

[C]

It's only trolling if you're trolling people that the girl doesn't like, though. If you're trolling people, if you're trolling somebody that the girl likes, if you're trolling somebody that the girl doesn't like, they're like, good for you.

[A]

I think there might. I think there might be some women who, if they found out their boyfriend had a burner account and was probably tweeting mean things about her being like, she just showed up. Ruined the whole vibe.

[C]

That'd be bad.

[A]

That would probably be.

[C]

That'd be bad.

[A]

Online trolling. That's where my mind went.

[C]

Guys can't have hobbies.

[A]

They can't have hobbies. My cool throne is Stella Blue coffee. I have it right in front of me. I have the Espresso sweet cream. I also have the espresso cafe mocha. Because Thursday, get ready. We are finally going to have some cans that are going to be available for purchase ready to drink. So that's a little teaser. We'll have everything. Just be ready on Thursday. Be ready. They're very, very good. Very good. They're very, very good. And my other cool throne is RG3 because I know it's not taking season, but we can just mark this down. We probably have the winner for take of the year.

[C]

Yeah, I'd say it's definitely up there.

[A]

This is RG3.

[C]

August Skip Bayless saying that Travis Hunter should have gotten baptized.

[A]

I don't know. This one is a strong one. Double whammy. 8-19-3 said. I'm convinced that the Indianapolis Colts are trying to tank for Arch Manning. Double whammy on Daniel Jones propping up Arch Manning. You've been so wrong. Both directions.

[C]

That is pretty bad. He also said, like, hey, it's. It's a disservice to Jaden Daniels to keep comparing him to me when that's literally all he did last year.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Was. Was make that. Listen, RG3. He.

[A]

He.

[C]

He chases takes.

[A]

He gets takes.

[C]

And that's okay.

[A]

He gets takes off. Zachary. Hot seat Cooltron.

[F]

My hot seat this week is going to be Amazon Web Services. I believe that we gave Bezos too.

[C]

Much of the cloud. Yeah.

[F]

We should break up this weather system somehow. One mistake over AWS leads to just half the Internet imploding lives being.

[A]

Does it. Let me ask you a question. I don't. I'm not familiar with aws. Does it. Does it take down your finger to press the button?

[F]

I think it. I think you could spend hours attempting to press a button into an abyss because there's no. The cloud that you entrusted to back the button has withered away.

[A]

Yeah, this is.

[E]

This great take.

[A]

I thought.

[C]

I thought AWS was award winning silence because there were no podcasts up.

[A]

Good point.

[E]

There was a podcast.

[A]

No, it wasn't.

[E]

It got up. It's up. It's up right now.

[A]

It was up late.

[F]

We should break up this cloud into smaller clouds. This storm system is too big.

[A]

I do feel bad for Max. I'm busting his balls. He got absolutely screwed on Sunday night. Do you want to tell us what happened on Sunday night?

[E]

Yeah, it was tough. Football nights are tough. Are late nights. We've talked about this a lot. You know, 245 finish up. It's a great feeling. You're like all Right. All you got to do, upload this and then go to bed and wake up and have your Monday. We go into, I go into our back end and it's just glitching out like crazy. Like different alerts are getting hit at me. There's like different question marks everywhere. I've never seen anything like it.

[A]

I think it's like, you're not, you're not, you're not ready for that. No, you, your brain is not ready for question marks and alerts.

[E]

Like where there should be Barstow logos. It was just like question marks and that's a bad sign to be for anything. So then I think it's like, oh, fuck. Fuck. Our own system. This is bullshit. No one's awake to help me right now. The barstool system is just fucked. I tweet something out from the PMT account, being like, we're working on, we're working to fix this. I wasn't working on shit. I couldn't have done anything.

[C]

It is crazy when, when Amazon goes down, like almost the entire Internet goes down.

[E]

Yeah. And then everyone was just replying to my tweet, being like, we're working on this. And then being. And then everyone was like, it's the entire Internet. What the fuck are you going to do? And I was like, good point. I'm not gonna do anything. So then I just stayed up for the next like five and a half hours, just refreshing our back end, seeing if it would just like magically start working again. And then like at one point I just couldn't keep my eyes open. So I just kept setting 20 minute alarms so I would fall asleep, wake up 20 minutes later, check my phone, see if anyone was awake or if it magically started working. So it would be 20 minutes sleep refresh, check my email, nothing. 20 minutes refresh, check my email, nothing until 7am Central Time. I actually woke, didn't even wake up to the alarm. I woke up to Big Cat calling me. Him just being like, pizza, we're good to go. And then we were good to go.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Because Pete, I saw it. I'm usually the first time I saw it. It called Pete right away and Pete said, it's, it's, it just came back. I can't get in touch with Max. Says like, I'll call him. So you were in your, you were in your 20 minute phase.

[E]

20 minute nap window. I. Because there's one thing like staying awake when like you're working on something.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

It's another, I was just sitting there with not There was nothing I could do. That's so frustrating until somebody else could wake up or until Amazon could just start working again.

[A]

So sorry to the awls, but it was not Max's fault.

[C]

Probably every other podcast had this too, Right?

[E]

That's a barstool thing. That is not a me thing.

[A]

That was my first question. I was, why is every other podcast but that still the. The podcast? This is also a good, good reason to subscribe to the YouTube. YouTube was up, but we apologize. It was not a Max forgetting to press the button. We were getting aws attacked. The cloud.

[C]

They don't want you to listen to this podcast.

[E]

The cloud, us and I. My sleep. My sleep schedule. Diet's gonna be bad again this week. I'm saying.

[A]

Okay, that's fine. It's aws. You aws. You made Max fat this week. Yeah, it's not fair. Max made his nachos. By the way, great job.

[C]

They were awesome.

[A]

They were really good.

[C]

Put a smile on my face.

[E]

We're have to think of something else for that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Bring back Max's deli.

[A]

Oh, Max's deli. Max's rib house.

[E]

That's. That might be a little too daunting.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Max's lasagna castle.

[E]

That I could probably figure out.

[C]

Max's meatballs.

[A]

Max's meatballs would be awesome.

[E]

Meatballs would be good. Meatballs would be good.

[A]

Yep. Okay. Good, Good. Hot seat. Cool Throw.

[F]

My cool throne. This week is Baker Mayfield. There's a lot of narratives out this morning saying Baker Mayfield did this, Baker Mayfield did that, saying he had a bad game. I just want to go on record and say the rational side of the Internet and sports fans understand that this is an inflate gate situation. Those balls were getting thrown high for a reason, and I think it might be helium based.

[C]

Oh, they're out to get your boy.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

I think it might be a smear campaign. I think a back room, equipment room. The job might have went down. And I think Baker should rest assured that when he's back on the field playing with regulation equipment, that those balls are going into hands and not into seats.

[C]

I think this is going to be. This is going to be good for Baker in the long term, because now he just gets a whole bunch of people talking shit about him.

[A]

Facts.

[C]

And so that's.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Adding some. They were being too nice to Baker.

[A]

What? When. When you were watching the game, at what point were you saying to yourself.

[B]

Oh, this is a problem.

[F]

First quarter didn't feel good.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Almond rock. There's Been a lot Almond Rod talk recently on the podcast, and I was like, of course he decides to just break it off. And us early on the Bucks. I mean, he's hitting spin moves that you see in video games. And then Gibbs is too fast. It seems like he would just break once a drive. But then when we got that turnover and the field goal before half, I was like, this is a little bit of momentum switch.

[A]

This is Baker time.

[F]

We're back in it. Yeah, let's do it. It's showtime. And then the game just never opened up. Like, it felt like it wanted to burst.

[C]

And.

[A]

Yep.

[F]

And then that touchdowns were just going to be hitting both sides.

[B]

Like, let's do it.

[F]

Let's have a game.

[B]

And we never had a game.

[C]

Never had a game.

[A]

Oh, you have one person. There's one single tweet that backs you. This is from Christopher. He said, this is inflate gate. The ball's got helium in them. Every single Baker Mayfield throws five yards over his receiver's head.

[F]

Christopher has accurate information.

[A]

Yeah. And he has no responses, no likes on this tweet.

[C]

187.

[A]

Shout out Christopher.

[F]

He's getting suppressed.

[A]

Yeah, he is.

[B]

The algorithm.

[A]

Yeah, you're right. Not followed by anyone we know.

[C]

Bezos.

[A]

That's Christopher out there. Shout out Chris Sun, 21.

[F]

Also, the refs pandering to the. The home crowd pretty much doing crowd work.

[A]

Like, oh, yeah, we'll just Hussy.

[C]

Yeah. Hussey was crazy last night. And guess what, Dan, we're gonna give you your challenge back. Give it up for Dan, everybody.

[A]

What's that inflection?

[F]

Why are you so excited? Almost excited to give these things back.

[C]

Yeah. Next up, we got Jared. Jared.

[F]

And then he, like, felt a certain type of way about. He felt good about the challenges. He's like, I'll do it again.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

I was in, like, the spot.

[A]

Like, hey, Dan, have this. I don't.

[F]

I didn't like it.

[A]

You didn't ask for it, but I'm giving it to you. Yeah.

[F]

You get a timeout back.

[C]

Look at this, man. We're a Penny Sewell.

[A]

Penny Sewell on the pole. Okay, let's get to our interview with our good, good friend, recurring guest and colleague Ryan Rosillo.

[C]

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[F]

We don't care what these hoes say.

[C]

There you go. All right. And now here's Ryan Rosillo.

[A]

From the Ryan Rosillo podcast. Go subscribe please. All awls go subscribe to the new feed that he has on itunes, on Spotify, on YouTube. Go subscribe. Ryan, great to see you colleagues. Now your first episode out November 3rd. How many takes are you kind of like do the takes build up in your head? Have you been calling people for hours on end trying to get the takes off with a with a few week break here?

[B]

Yeah, real just take hoarding. And obviously because it's new, I really have to let it fly now. So you know me. I'm going to try to come up with a bunch of things to get attention. Maybe expanding the college football playoff to 64 teams is going to be one. Is baseball America's pastime again. Which I'm in a nice run last night was a lot of fun. I walked into a bar in Canada right as they were down 3:1 to grab some food and the place she's like, you here for the Jays game? I was like, I am now Springer Yard, by the way. Springer. It doesn't happen without Hartford. Hartford has it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

New England's rising star. It just continues to deliver in ways that I wish people would account for a little bit more. And then I was watching Sportsnet, you know, so it was like tragically hip into the break, places going wild, and I was, I was really happy for the Blue Jays. I, I love all Toronto fans except for Raptors fans, as we know.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you have, have you had any takes over the last few weeks that you would have put out that would have then become freezing cold takes later that you can call yourself out on?

[B]

No. That's a really good question.

[A]

Good question.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

You guys are good.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

Like, hey, what, what's your dumbest thought been since you've been off a podcast, Mike, that you're like, I'm really glad I didn't have to do a podcast after that.

[B]

Probably that LSU still talented enough to hang with anybody. Yeah.

[A]

Yikes.

[B]

Figure out this offense, as you pointed.

[C]

Out, they lost a tackle on the road.

[B]

Yeah, they did. Tough environment. Tough environment. That's what I think is the best part about playoff expansion is just the excuses that are just completely irrelevant prior to having 12 teams, you're like, dude, it's over, it's done. So there's certainly an argument to be said for like still being alive. LSU is not still alive. They, they. I'm kind of kidding around. I think once the South Carolina game, I'm like, this is a very talented, not great team, but the offensive line is a huge issue. But yeah, I was, I was trying to get it out there. I think the thing that I'm always really impressed with is the self importance of some of us. Or it's like, if I can just get this messaging out there, there might be someone in the committee that sees this tweet. And then when this team is being debated, they're going to reference this tweet from mid October and go, you know, Vandy is a little, a little bit more lively. I went to a Vandy Mizzou game once and it was. People were apologizing ahead of time. They're like, just so you know, it's a little different than other SEC stops, but it looks like it's back or new.

[A]

Well, yeah, the, the, the stadium construction is finally finished. Vandy and Mizzou are the two teams that I feel like have been under construction, stadium wise for about 15 years.

[C]

Kansas too?

[A]

Kansas as well.

[C]

Yeah, Kansas is, but still not done.

[A]

Missou would just, someone would be lying up for a field go be like, okay, so they're just kicking into someone's backhoe. Like, what is going on here? And that. That happened for a decade.

[B]

Yeah. Because it was a pile of rocks forever. Right. And then it was. It might be smart for recruiting. Just always have construction going on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Be like when you get here. I remember when we took the tour in college at UVM and they were like, and we're going to get cable in the dorm soon. Which we never did. And then the older guys are like, they said the same thing at our tour as well. So, yeah, that might be something. Just be under construction the entire time. Because you want to make a decision whether it's in your professional life, personal life, or like, is there room for growth?

[C]

Yeah, that's what they do at country club. It's like, yeah, the clubhouse, we're doing a complete renovation on it right now and it's going to be done next spring just in time for the season. Okay, yeah, yeah, sure, I'll sign up. That's awesome. State of the art facilities.

[A]

Yeah. That's why your dues are a little bit more. We had to bump them up this year.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Track again. Everywhere. We're getting those installed then.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In the driving range a year later being like, where it's like, no, you're supposed to bring a range finder.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, so the new podcast feed, same old. People are gonna say, oh, what's Ryan doing? He same show. You have Ceruti and. And nephew Kyle are with you. Sorry, Kyle are with you. And everyone should expect it's the same show. I know that people when. When the news was announced, like, oh, he's gonna change. He's gonna start guessing that ass every day. I feel like he and Nikki smokes are going to be doing blow at the bar. You're doing the same show and you're in California and pretty much nothing is changing.

[B]

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

[A]

The.

[B]

The last week has been a bit of a reminder. When I left ESPN and went to ringer than Spotify, it was like the second I started putting out content, it's like, ah, here we go. Now that he's not at ESPN anymore and like, I'm literally the exact same person. And so it was a nice little reminder seven years later that it's happening all over again. Like, you say one nice thing about Sabrina Carpenter and it's like, oh, he fits in perfect with Portnoy.

[C]

Yeah. Weirdo. Ryan leaves a ringer, all of a sudden, he likes girls.

[A]

Yeah. Well, also, that's a double whammy because Dave does have in our contract, we have to tweet about the WNBA at least once a week.

[B]

Yeah, no, I'm excited about that. Mine are gonna be mostly stat stuff.

[A]

Okay, okay. That's fair.

[B]

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, I thought Sabrina Carpenter was awesome in that podcast sketch, and I think his podcasters, I think we even have a greater appreciation for it. So you try to compliment her and then it's like, oh, here we go. And the funnier thing is like, I gave out a couple picks to fulfill my contract and it was like, now he's giving up. And you're like, dude, I've been giving out these mid ass picks for a year and a half. Yeah, like, oh, now he's saying mid, though.

[A]

Oh, true. Yeah.

[C]

Yep. Yeah, you're on.

[A]

That's sketchy by you.

[C]

Yeah, I. Have you. Have you had a conversation with the boys about the podcast feed? Because there's been some podcast feed issues over here.

[B]

No, I. I'm. Of all the stuff that I've observed, I can't wait to not be involved in all of it. Well, I don't. I don't know if there's a first class flight issue. I don't really go that many places, so I'm out of that. The feed issue is a big reason why, like, when you go to market and luckily you guys never really have to because you're. You're so powerful, but when you start walking into these meetings and it's like, where's your feed? Like, I don't have my feed. It's massive. It's a massive, massive difference. So luckily, this time around, any new place that I was talking to was like, okay, we can figure out a way to get you your feed after a certain amount of time. So I don't know if that's what you were asking, but no, I was.

[C]

Just basically busting Max's balls. Is the first time Max has ever missed a feed was on Monday morning with the show coming out a little bit late, but your guys are on top.

[A]

It also.

[B]

Oh, I see what you're saying.

[A]

Yeah, everyone do subscribe to it. It was also a nice welcome to Barstool moment. I text you right after Ryan, but you announced your. Your new feed where everyone could subscribe, and then it quickly became a Dave Portnoy versus Jerry Karabis fight. And that was.

[B]

That was.

[A]

That was great. That was great. It was like somewhere under like 15 of these quote tweets is Ryan's new feed. We just got to find was good.

[B]

It was Almost like it was done on purpose. Like, let's get a little controversy going here. But, yeah, back to the original point. I, to me, it's the exact same show. It's three days a week. We may change up some of the release times a little bit because maybe some of those later Friday ones that were coming out kind of late, like, especially if it's hitting the East coast at 5 o' clock in the afternoon on a Friday isn't the optimum time to drop new stuff. But, yeah, probably a little bit more active on a, on a couple other things. But I don't, I mean, I've been doing this a long time. I don't know, I, I, if anything, it'd be like exhausting to try to be somebody different.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Now are you gonna, are you gonna start covering and watching the NFL?

[B]

I know you guys love the NFL.

[C]

Love the NFL. Yeah.

[A]

Ryan.

[C]

Ryan always hits us up at 1:00pm on Sundays. Just checking in, wanted to chat. Can't chat then. Ryan games are mad.

[A]

I fell for it.

[B]

Yeah, it's totally backfired, though.

[F]

I don't know.

[B]

Did Hank tell you what happened? Because I was going to be my little thing with you guys, but I couldn't, I couldn't do it every week. Right. I had to try to, like, sneak him in. So right at kickoff week one, I called Big Cat and he answers, and I was just like, what are you, what are you up to, man?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then he's like, God damn it, I can't believe I answered this, but you dick. And then he just hung up on me. So then I gave it a couple weeks and I randomly call Hank, and Hank's like, hello? Which has happened maybe twice ever that I've called Hank. And I was like, what are you doing? He's like, I missed my flight to Pittsburgh. And then I was like, well, God. I was like, this is back. This isn't really working. And I think I said something like, hey, are you, like, seeing anybody or anything? Like, no, I. He's like, no. And I was like, I was like, man, this whole thing, I was like, it didn't work. I was like, this is what I was trying to do. And he was just like, yeah, okay, cool. So he kind of got me because, I mean, his mind was elsewhere. He wasn't where he was supposed to be. And he was so miserable because I've had to do that, like, weird Pittsburgh, how can I get a flight out of here thing. And then I think I tried it with PFT once, and it Was like a dm.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm not gonna try it anymore.

[C]

You sent me a DM one time, and then I. I don't think I replied to it for, like, four days. And it was like, yeah, this probably. I don't know if this bit's paying off for you, but it's a good bit.

[A]

It's good. Keep going. Go through the wall. Yeah. Okay, so let's. Let's talk some college football. So let's start with your LSU Tigers. In the fact that Brian Kelly feels like he might be on the hot seat. Have you. Because you actually are plugged in with some people there. Lsu, they're not going to go to the playoffs this year.

[B]

Doesn't feel like it.

[A]

What are they going to do? What's the future? Is Brian Kelly going to get another year? I heard that there was. He was. He went on vacation in the bye week. It just never felt like a good fit, and it's just proving to be not a great fit. Okay.

[B]

But I think one of the problems with, like, fit, especially when it's in the south, it's like, oh, you have to be a Southern person. And then it's like, you know, we always kind of default in that. It's like, oh, he's like this great cultural fit. You know, I still don't think people, like, a lot of people realize, like, Saban isn't from Alabama.

[A]

No.

[B]

You know, even, like, Matt Brown in Texas, he's winning. He's like, oh, he's a perfect fit for that Texas culture. It's like, yeah, but it's like, we kind of fall for this. So in the South, I feel like it's even harder when you don't feel Southern or you don't have connections to the high schools organically. But Kelly's track record was incredible. So the fact that they would want to back up the bus for him and pay him a ton of money, I never really had an issue with. And whenever I look at the fan bases, they get really, really mad about, you know, whether it's like, I. I know that it's not been to the standard, because the only standard at LSU is winning a national championship. But it's not like they're terrible. I think this year it's disappointing and you're continuing to see an offense. It's like, it doesn't make any sense with Nussmeyer and the fact they can't run the football again this year. All of these numbers that are pretty alarming. But whenever a team that's at that Level decides like, okay, like, get rid of this guy. The first thing I always like, A and M should be thrilled right now, but A and M was kind of like, elko.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that's the best we can do. And look, it's. It's. They've been terrific this year, but in that moment, the number of fan bases that they want the guy out, and then they see the available replacements, they're almost always disappointed. You know, like, Penn State's throwing around names right now. It's like, why would any of these people go there that are currently this happy with where they're at? So it ends up always being kind of disappointing. So I. Look, I think Kelly deserves another year, but it really. Sometimes that. Sometimes those. Those spots are just so intense that you can admit, like, the coach will go, I'm not going to be miserable if I don't have to do this again.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. By the way, the. The fit wasn't like, he's not a Southerner. It was more that he's incredibly unlikable and that will immediately speed up his timeline by a year because he's just. He's just a dick. Yeah.

[B]

But it has everything to do with wins and losses.

[A]

Yeah. Of course.

[B]

About any of this Belichick stuff. If they were showing any kind of signs of improvement at unc, which would be the funniest thing of people having to, like, justify, but considering they're also not very good. Like, you just. You can't get over the content. I can't believe that story. I can't believe the leaked video that Pablo had. And then her describing, like, hey, is. Is end zone redundant.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Should that be. Should that be red zone?

[A]

We. We were saying that video. The winner of that entire video is Matt Patricia, the most patient man in the world, and just sitting there being like, listen, my. My buddy's happy. I'm not going to do.

[C]

I can't.

[A]

I can't say anything.

[C]

Also, Matt Patricia, the fact that he. He very easily could have ended up at UNC this year, and instead he's at Ohio State coaching the best defense in the country, probably having a great time, probably really enjoying himself. Big winner. Big winner in that split up.

[B]

She's going to be running a company, though. Like, that confidence is undeniable.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I don't know what it is. I mean, obviously she's got some years to go here, but to sit next to Belichick and another coach like Patricia and then explain like, hey, does that make sense?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And they're like, yeah, actually, it kind of does make sense. But if they were five and two, like, think about it. Now, granted, UNC is like, not on that level, but imagine if this were at Auburn.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they were 5 and 2 and then Auburn fans would be like, it's totally fine. What are you talking about? Like, this is great. Massive turnaround, tons of energy. You should see the quad. Like, we. We really only care. Like, you know, Kelly, I get it. He's tough. He's really tough. And he kind of put his foot in his mouth the way he went after that reporter about the offense. And I could also kind of understand, like, hey, we just won a game. And like, the first game you're going to do is talk about the offense here. But it's. It's a lingering issue for a team that felt like it was loaded. But I don't know. I mean, after that Vandy game. But we saw it coming.

[A]

Yeah. So real quick, we touched on Ohio State. There they are, the best team in the country. Are you ready? We have been doing this for about a month now. Are you ready to say this team is better than last year's team?

[B]

Wow.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I think sans even better. He just, you know, they don't even need him. Like, that's the thing that's wild about it. Like, I was looking at the third and long. Like, anything third and four or longer, those numbers. Like, nobody converts anything against this defense. And you think like losing Knowles and then losing Chip Kelly, you bring in two new coordinators, you have saying, you're like, okay, is this going to be as. As seamless a transition? And it is now, I caution all of us that fall into this trap all the time of like that six or seven game stretch where we were doing it before Oregon lost to Indiana, where it's like, okay, it feels like there's three teams and there's a gap. It's like, okay. Yep. But two of those teams lost. And the Indiana win at Oregon, I think is the single best win of the entire college football season. And I also think Oregon's getting dropped down too far in the polls after the fact because I think Indiana really is that good this year. So now to look at Ohio State as like, this unbeatable team, their record and their stats are going to say that. And yeah, it feels like it's them and everybody else right now, but I feel like we make this mistake every single year when we're talking about whatever the gap is between how many teams can, like, win a title versus, like, who the actual Favorite is. So I like everybody else, you've watched Ohio State, what they did to Washington's offense, just humiliating Minnesota. Like, that was the night game and they're coming out of the tunnel and you're like, all right, here we go. Like some Big Ten action. You're like, this is humiliating. Yeah. And the rest of their schedule isn't really going to be that challenging. Yeah. So this should be pretty easy there.

[A]

It just feels like they are a step above everyone else. But I know you, you know, don't love the 12 team playoff. We've, we've, we've debated it ad nauseam. It does feel like there's some good parody in that next grouping. Indiana being at the top of it. But Indiana, Oregon, Texas A and M, Notre Dame is, is good. I know people, you know, wrote them off after the first two games. They've kind of figured out their defense. I like C.J. carr. Who in that next groupings would you say you're highest on? And to be like, that's the team that will maybe take down Ohio State. Miami.

[B]

Yeah. You know, Miami, they get the terrible bet game, which, you know, is, it's more normal to be a really good team to look absolutely terrible one of these 12 games. Yeah, I, I feel like you remember before Clemson won titles and you know, Van Pelt and I had argued about it, whatever, but like, he did a whole thing on Clemsoning, which is a very like, ACC thing, and it's like, oh, Clemson's going to get off to this big start. And then my whole point was, you know, how many different programs around the country that get off to a good start, that have these high expectations end up losing late in the season, like, oh, we did it again. It's like, no, no, that's actually normal. Like, that's normal. Oklahoma, that's normal Miami. And granted Miami blowing that game to Syracuse is probably not normal considering what was at stake last season, but I expect that to happen. It's very rare that we have any of these teams that are going to go clean throughout the entire season. And now you're asking to win even more games to get through this expanded playoff. Like, that's a ridiculous ask to go. You can't lose any of these games. Or maybe you can lose one and win the national championship game. And then of course you have Ohio State losing two and then still looking and clear like, clearly like the best team last year. But normally, like a lot of years, you know, I'm, I wouldn't call it bias. I, I just think The SEC conversation was really stupid for a bunch of years now other teams have won titles and I think the argument could be okay, well, if it's only about winning titles, then why were all these people in the SEC was winning all these titles still arguing that it wasn't the best conference? And now that the Big Ten is one back to back titles. The thing that you argued against, you're using as your main talking point to talk about a shift in the conferences. I don't think there's any question the SEC is deeper than all these other conferences. I mean, sometimes when I like go through it and you're like, Texas is 10th, you know, I think that was what it was before this last weekend. I don't really love any of these SEC teams this year as like real title contenders. Maybe it's Alabama.

[A]

Ty Simpson's awesome.

[B]

He's awesome. He's. He's a baller. The two fourth down throws against Mizzou, they're now like four wide receivers deep. I think Hill, the 240 pound back that we saw in the Tennessee game and like, look, that was a really good game. I think Tennessee is pretty good, but you get to pick six at the end. It's a massive like at the very least, 10 point swing, maybe a 14 point swing. So their defense looks like it's getting a little bit better. Earlier in the season you looked at BMSD and you're like, where are the dudes? Like, where's the. Where are the two guys that just destroy the other team's offense? Coming off the edge and there was some rushing attempt numbers against them that were pretty alarming. Like Georgia ran at 70 yards per carry and then they go and face Mizzou, who's got Hardy's, the number one running back in the country at that point. And they shut them down. So I think they're growing. And the Simpson to receiver group is my favorite probably collection of like, if there's one thing to point to, whether it's a front or a secondary or, you know, sometimes I don't know that we talk about running backs enough anymore. But like Simpson and those receivers is something I like better than anything that A and M has. Better than anything Ole Miss has. I mean, Ole Miss has been kind of a weird team this year. I think they're kind of like in that Tennessee group. Like, yeah, they're good, but I don't think they're as good as Indiana or Ohio State. And I don't even know that. I think Alabama is as good as Those two teams and A and M for all the defensive numbers that they had prior to that Arkansas game. Granted, Arkansas is kind of like a weird, sneaky, like, can hang around for three hours. I'm not as high on. I'm not as high on Reed as I am as, say, a Simpson or maybe probably even Trinidad. Although it looked like Trinidad kind of fell apart there in that Georgia game.

[A]

Or Gunner Stockton. Gunner Stockton looks. Gunner Stockton has had two games now where it's not looked great, but in big moments at Tennessee and then Ole Miss this past weekend, like, he's kind of got that he's a dude in the moment feel to him where it's not great, it's not perfect. They could probably, if they get in the playoff, they maybe get into deep waters that he can't get out of. But he has twice now impressed me in like, hey, your back's against the wall. You got to start making plays right now, otherwise your season's going to be fucked. And he's done it.

[C]

Yeah, I'm.

[B]

You're probably right. I mean, I guess the biggest problem is that we're holding Georgia to like, the Georgia standard. And this Georgia team is not even close to those teams. The defense isn't as good. They don't run the ball consistently. And I think the Stockton fourth down throw against Tennessee was like, okay, you know, because I felt like coming out of last year into this year, you're like, wait, you guys thought that guy was good, right? At the end of the year last year, like, he almost got decapitated and everybody kept like, oh, man, this guy's got so much juice. It's like, yeah, that's awesome. He survived that play, but I don't know that I necessarily trust him. And you don't even have to listen to me. Like, Herb Street's brought it up during POD or broadcast. I don't know if he's done it any podcast, but there's, there's a tendency for him because he's such a good runner, he's a tough player, he's kind of a gamer that he's going to bail a little bit quicker. But that comeback against Ole Miss, to put up that many points for an offense that you're like, you know, do you trust his defense to. To get the other team to go three now when you needed to? And it's like fourth quarter, the script entirely flips. So, like, Georgia's good, but they're incredibly one dimensional. And yeah, maybe Stockton will make a couple plays, but over the course of Three hours against another really good football team. I don't know that he'll be able to keep up with the other better quarterbacks.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. And to your point about. About Miami's loss that you made a second ago, like Louisville on a Friday night, that is a. That's a tough matchup for anybody.

[A]

Jeff Bron.

[C]

That's gotta be. I think Louisville on Friday nights is. They're the most dangerous team in America, and they have been for years. If you don't know about Louisville, Friday nights it is. They play different. They play different there. So I'm not writing Miami off just yet or anybody that loses to Louisville on a Friday night this year. I think that's something that you have to put in its own bag. Okay. Weird things happen. Let's move on. And to your point about the. The SEC and the Big Ten, the answer to, like, why Big Ten fans are now saying, like, oh, yeah, we beat the big bad sec. They were just lying before when the SEC was clearly better, we moved the goalpost. They were just like, hey, yeah, yeah, hey, ESPN is in the tank for the sec. They're actually not that good. That was just cope. And now that they are actually doing things and winning championships, now they can be like, yeah, we beat the big bad bully on the block. Now we're the big bad bully. Yeah.

[A]

Just lying hand up.

[B]

Yeah. I think a lot of it. And what we saw was. It just reminds me of politics, you know? Like, politics to me is when there's an NFL game and you guys love the NFL, so you'll know.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Huge.

[B]

But when the official, you know, turns on the mic, there's 80,000 people in the stadium and the officials, like, there's two penalties on the play. Like, first is, you know, illegal motion offense. And then everybody. Everybody goes crazy, right? Because their team is on defense. And then it's like offsides defense. And then everybody in the stadium, booze. They're like, he just said there was two flags. He just said there were two flags. And you got so excited about the first one, and everybody knew that the second one was going to be on you, and yet you still cheered for the first one. And I think that is a perfect example of, like, how people argue with each other over politics all day long. It's like the thing that you can point to. There's a really good chance, like, your guy is going to do the exact same thing or some version of it in, like, six hours.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So what's the point to any of this stuff? And what I think happened is that a lot of people didn't want to believe because this is another thing like no one actually wants to believe. Like, hey, what if I'm not good for enough? What if that person is better than me? You're just going to make excuses. So instead of saying like, the SEC won seven straight titles with four different teams. And before the Big Ten expanded, like to go through that exercise with the Big Ten, it was like, give me the four teams that could win a national championship over a seven year period. And it's like it was, it was a really hard thing to do. Now, you know, look, you bring in Oregon, you bring in sc, Washington plays international championship game, they were in the playoff. Then there's also ucla. So it's an easier argument to be made now. But it felt like instead of just admitting it, that it was happening, that it was just a collective agreement from the rest of the country that it's now it has to all be propaganda. So to fight that propaganda, I think what we have now is like, no, no, this is what you're supposed to do. Michigan win one, Ohio State wins one. Okay, we're the best. And then we just keep hammering that messaging over and over again. It's like people got so mad about an advertisement catchphrase of it just means more that it was like, well, that's not true. Like, well, who, who's keeping track of whether or not that's true or not?

[C]

It was true. That was true. Yeah, that part was legit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because the other thing, it's kind of like the Jokic MVP vote. Like when I was going around talking to teams before I put my vote in, I would ask about, I would ask front offices and coaching staffs, I'd be like, look, I need help on the defensive guys. Are there people I'm missing? Is there somebody I'm not thinking, thinking about? Somebody that you think like, we don't really understand. And then every team that I would talk to and it's less than 20 and it's over 10 would say, hey, who do you vote for MVP? I'd be like, I'm actually voting Jokic. You're like, okay, good. Like every team except for one team that was kind of like, hey, I think it's SGA's year, what the team did, 68 wins. He deserves the best player to be acknowledged. It's the same thing as anybody that's gone from one of the other conferences to the sec. No one has ever said to me privately, not one has ever said, you know, What? This place actually isn't as good as everybody says it is. Like, every single person that goes in is like, okay, now, like, I thought it was maybe a little overrated or a little stupid. So, yeah, like, I get all the propaganda, accusations. I haven't worked at ESPN now for, what, six years? I mean, if. If that's what it was with me, then I don't know why I would still be doing it, because I'm not getting paid anymore. But, like, do you want to. Do you want to keep track of game days, visits now? Do big noons? Well, like, you know that. Did you see the Fox Sports Stadium rankings that Bear and I talked about who works on the show? They had Michigan number one. So I think the funny thing is Fox gets like, believe that it was only an SEC ESPN thing. That Fox is like, you want to see some messaging?

[A]

Yeah, well, yeah, we got it.

[C]

Give us your top five. What are your top five stadiums?

[B]

Ooh, well, it's LSU one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, there's this collection of, like, SEC schools that. When it's right. Like, when Tennessee's right, it is so much fun.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think the Swamp is in that conversation for when it's right. It's just. I don't know. You've got this, like, moisture all over you, and you're like, this is brutal. Pound for pound, no one can hang with Otson what Oregon does with a lower number and how. And I was there, you know, when they were really starting to crank that thing up and standing on the sideline, the USC sideline. Remember when Barkley played there as a freshman? And you're standing on the USC sideline, and like, I remember Stanford, Steve and I just looking at each other like, how can this place be this loud? Like, how can it be this loud when they don't have a hundred thousand people in here? So I. I guess I would say lsu, Tennessee, Florida, Oregon, and if I have to pick a big ten.

[A]

So bias.

[B]

Yeah. Well, I've been to 60 plus of these places, so, you know, can I.

[A]

Throw a Big Ten at you that you. What was your fifth pick?

[B]

Well, I haven't been to Iowa.

[A]

That's what I was gonna say. I. Kinnick is very, very sneaky. Underrated.

[B]

They.

[A]

I don't know how. I don't think if you built a stadium like that today, it would be allowed, but the. The front row at Kinnick, you're basically on the field. You're. You're standing essentially like that. You could tap the players on the shoulder. That's how close it is.

[B]

Yeah, that's the same thing in, like, at Oregon at that point, like, I was turning around going, I can't. You know? And then I was like, I think because normally you like to stand on the visiting team side just to be away from all the chaos. Right. It's a little bit easier to move around. And that Oregon crowd, I was like, I don't. I don't want to be, like, part of the enemy here. Yeah, let's go over to the Oregon side, because it's not even feel safe over over here. So I haven't been to Kinnick. I've been to Ohio State. Ohio State's good. I don't think it's like, oh, my God, I haven't been to Michigan. I've never heard one person ever discuss Michigan other than the Fox tweet, which, again, you guys are kind of aligned with here. So I don't mean to put you guys in the crosshairs.

[C]

Yeah, welcome to the club.

[B]

But I'm not on the show.

[A]

But you might be.

[B]

I think there'd be. I could. I. There's no chance, like, one of my good friends who you met, Big Cat, that he told me something years ago that I think is really, really important to remember. He's like, out of the 20 of us that are still very close, you know, maybe 10 get together, he's like, half of them are actually rooting against you. That's so.

[A]

Boy. Yeah.

[B]

Right? So I think everybody would sit there and, like, welcome me with open arms. So there's probably two people on the show. They're like, this guy's gonna get all these reps. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Just say his name.

[C]

Brandon agrees with you about Iowa, by the way.

[D]

I.

[A]

We. We. We should get. I mean, it. Would you do. No. College ball. So wait, so what's your. What's your Big Ten pick? Is it Happy Valley?

[B]

Yeah, it's. It's Happy Valley because it is. It's. It's awesome. But I. I always have, like, a. I think I've told this story before. There was always, like, a little annoyance when a Penn State staffer came up to me during a whiteout. He's like, best thing you've ever seen. No, it isn't. It isn't. And he was just, like, looking at me like, you. And I went, it's unbelievable. Like, this is unbelievable. Being, like, one of the five best atmospheres in the sport is. Is a really great accolade. And the guy was like, whatever. Like, was so mad about it in the way that you would be mad about it when you only know one thing, Right. I was like, all right. And look, just honorable mention is Lubbock. Halloween beating number one Texas. I don't know what it's like week to week, but it's still my favorite sporting event that I've ever been to. And it was just so scary. I mean, it was like, like, it was like another portal. But I don't like.

[A]

Are you there.

[B]

Are there any that I'm leaving off.

[C]

Wrigley Field, when they have. Northwestern versus Iowa is a pretty. Pretty iconic location where they play in the outfield. Wrigley, where they play in the outfield grass. And sometimes they. They don't have enough grass for an end zone. That's.

[A]

That's a lot of fun play. Only going one way.

[C]

I would say Lubbock is a good call because you take your life into your hand when you go into love into Lubbock, the tortillas flying everywhere could kill somebody.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Open carry.

[C]

It also has. Yeah, it's got the open carry aspect and also the fact that it's just so isolated. You're in the middle of nowhere where you go and you're like, am I ever really going to be able to leave this place? It's intimidating.

[A]

Yeah. I liked Florida State. I went to Florida State.

[B]

Florida State a lot.

[A]

Yeah. And especially. I think they've done a lot of renovations on the stadium. I'd like to see that. I thought Florida State was a very cool vibe. And I kind of. I think if I remember correctly, walking in, they have some of those. It looks like the Coliseum a little bit. It's cool at night especially.

[B]

Yeah. I think Florida State also has like an atmosphere when it's going right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That is pretty wild. You know, look, I think Wisconsin actually. I know. I just kind of. I know, I know, dude. It's bad, but I was there. Well, you were there. Weren't you there for the Terrell Prior game when they were number one and they came. Yeah.

[A]

2010. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So I went to that game. That was incredible. Some people like Norman. Texas is better than it used to be, but I don't know that anybody ever brings it up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

As the best spot.

[C]

What about Kyle Field?

[B]

I've been to one game there and it was awesome. I mean, you could. You could pick like Athens is kind of great too.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

On that. That Saturday afternoon as the sun is going down type of thing. And I just don't want to pick six or seven Sec. Schools. But if you pick 10. I don't think you're top four because I think even the graphic had four Big Ten schools and then fifth, they were like, all right, we got to put LSU somewhere here.

[C]

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[A]

Wait, that just triggered a memory right there. I don't know if you saw, but speaking of Fox, we, we did the show out in Utah a couple weeks ago and I got Rinaldi. Have you been renalded?

[B]

Well, I mean, if you mean have an awesome time. Oh, yeah, no, yeah, a few times.

[A]

I say it in like, all loving, but he breaks you down in like an incredibly fascinating way. And you're just sitting there like, where are the cameras? I'm getting Rinaldi all time.

[B]

Rinaldi went with a bunch of buddies to the Masters. The espn, I think, is the only time I'd ever asked for tickets anything. And they're like, not a ton has worked out for this guy when we hook him up. So they gave me, like, passes Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, the double eagle hosting thing, which if you're doing the Masters, right? So, you know, we go to the Wednesday stuff and walk in and, you know, I'm with some college buddies too, so they hadn't really ever seen, like, hey, what can you do here? I'm like, I can't do anything that, like, trust me, at Augusta, there's nothing that I can do here that that makes it special. And then Rinaldi sees us, it goes up and Rinaldi's like, and if you guys can walk the course Today, walk it backwards. The perspective that you're gonna have over the next four days. And he just like gets right India, you know. And it was like, it was awesome. He Renaldi. Ronald. Me. Ronaldi to me once at a hotel lobby, like in the middle of the day was like, Ryan, he's like, how's it going? And I explained, you know, the important thing to remember. And I was like, this guy.

[C]

Yeah, I feel like getting Rinaldi at the Masters. That's peak Rinaldi.

[A]

Yeah, that's my, that might be heaven. You might have gone to heaven and.

[C]

Not realized the birds chirping. You probably hear the piano music in the background.

[B]

My friends were like, they're like, we can't believe that just, that was like a real thing that just happened. Yeah. Felt like he was doing a TV segment for us. Yeah, like, that's why he's the best.

[A]

That's why he's the best. What fan base in college football gives you the most?

[B]

Well, it was Indiana last year, without question. But I was kind of like, you know, look, you know, Indiana fans are even mean on threads, which is like impossible.

[A]

Shout out threads. By the way, we, I, I, I've had this out with. We have some Indiana fans here. They're really good this year. Last year, really good last year. I feel like that was a draw. Like that was with the, the comments about Indiana. They should have been in the playoff. I never said they shouldn't have been in the playoff. But the comments about Indiana, when they step up, is it going to look the same? It did not. That all proved to be true. This year it's different. Mendoza's special. Like this is a different Indiana team than the conversations we had last year where, you know, they'll point to the 10 point loss in Notre Dame. Anyone who watched that game that wasn't a 10 point game. So that this year's different. This year. I, I, if you're not giving Indiana credit this year, then you're a, and you're stuck in, I don't know where you're stuck. You're just not watching the games. They're awesome.

[B]

Totally agree. Last year it was, it was something where I just, you know, I get so mad about the expansion. We've covered all this stuff and the realignment and you go, do you realize when you have an 18 team league, like you can have a really weird scheduling year. So when you look through the 18 teams other than the Ohio State game they played, I think like eight of the worst or no, seven of the Next eight worst teams in the conference. And of course, they never play anybody out of conference. So then when they had the Ohio State game, where it felt like, are you guys just running clock to make this score appear to be a little bit better? And then that's why I think Ohio State came right back, like, let's put another touchdown on these fucking guys. And that had a lot to do with Signetti. And look to Signetti's, like, I shouldn't even say it that way. What Signetti has done here is insane.

[A]

Insane for all.

[B]

All the other coaches that come into a program and host those luncheons. And it's like, okay, you know, we wait until we get our guys in here and then they fire coordinators. Like, all right, now we have the coordinators. We want for him to do this with a place with such a dismal history in this sport, to even do what he did last year, he deserves all the credit. The problem was that he acted like such an asshole so many different times. And people can kind of go to the default, like, Lane Kiff in a Tennessee thing, where it's like, no, I'm just doing this to make sure the program gets attention and all that kind of stuff. And you're like, dude, you coached at Ohio State game, like, you were scared. Like you were just going, let me get through this thing. Let me try to have some sort of score that looks okay when the committee's talking about us. And so I didn't like the idea of a team being able to get into the playoffs by never beating anyone. And then the one game that mattered looking like they weren't even. Even close to being in the same class. But then the SEC pisses down their leg like, I wasn't arguing for Alabama even before the last loss of the season for them. Ole Miss loses to Florida. South Carolina has lost. They're like, look, all these teams lost. So Indiana's getting into this thing. And I was more okay with it at the end, even though I didn't think they were good. And you're exactly right about the Notre Dame thing. And then that day when, like, Signetti was on with game day, like, he went crazy again. And then at the beginning of the year, when he talks about his schedule, saying, hey, we're going to do the SEC schedule thing, and you're like, you want to go through. Through the power four opponent stuff, like, do you want to bring up that record in the out of conference stuff? Of course you don't want to do that. Why you don't play anybody. So I was still like a little pre pissed or I would say Leftover pissed from 24.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Watch the Illinois game and you're like, you know, Illinois is good and this is something I'd love to do with you guys at some point. Like, do we need to rank like 45 teams? Because I feel like there's always this group from like 20 to 40 where I kind of reference it as like the meaty good and they may lose the wrong time. Right. On being the cusp of being ranked and then they're not ranked. But then you're never given credit for beating that team. Like, at times. Like, I think beating USC last year, despite the record, like, that's still a good win. Not just because LSU lost to them. There's other teams like that this year where I'm like, you know what? Beating that team is actually a good win. I don't care if they don't have a number next to them. So the Illinois part of it. And then just think that for three hours they were that much better than Oregon, even though the score was 2020. When they throw the pick six and then Mendoza goes right down the field after throwing a pick six at Austin, all the momentum is shifted. 75 yards. Touchdown. The two receivers are studs. The running backs are awesome. Frazier, the linebacker is great. There's like three guys in the D line that feel like they're making plays. And Mendoza raises their level. So this is not like I felt like I was right the entire time. The Indiana last year. And it was so annoying for a fan base that had never really tasted a before to now be in the conversation. It's like, hey, this isn't about whether or not you're any good or you're going to have eight wins. This is about whether or not you're going to compete for a national championship. And I'm going to push against that, considering what this schedule was. But that, to me, it's like it's a different uniform now.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Is anybody even doing that anymore, though?

[A]

I. I don't think so. Not after the Oregon one. But like, yeah, it's it. They are legit. Legit. They are going to. You know, I. I can't wait to see them most likely in the Big Ten championship against Ohio State. But I think this team is every, every bit as good as pretty much every other team in the top 10, maybe outside of Ohio State, but Ohio State just might be on a different level than everyone. But that also could be if Indiana goes to. To The Big Ten championship game beats Ohio State. I wouldn't. I wouldn't sit there and be like, how did that happen? That is the craziest upset of all time. No. Indiana has dudes, and they have a dude at quarterback. And I love Signetti. He is. He is just. It really is insane. Indiana has the most losses in college football history. This is a. This is a.

[B]

This is a.

[A]

A university that never was good at all. And Signetti literally came in, said, he's gonna change everything, and he changed everything in a year and a half. It's absolutely unfathomable that this happened.

[D]

I think.

[C]

I think a big part of it, too, is we've never had a coach that comes in super arrogant and just, like, calls his shot from day one, before they even practice. And he was like, yeah, I win. Google me. Purdue sucks. Ohio State sucks. Michigan sucks. We've never had a guy that comes in with that level of arrogance that actually does back it up immediately in a big conference like this. And so it's kind of shocking. So because he was so arrogant off the jump in that first year, you start to pick apart what he does. Yeah, it's impressive, but he's not, like, a powerhouse yet. I still think what Signetti did last year was incredible, incredibly impressive for Indiana. They just weren't, like, an elite team that was going to ever win a national championship, which is okay for a guy to come in his first year. If that's the biggest knock you have against him, then he's done a hell of a job, even in year one.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Whatever annoyances I've have or even reference here, none of it matters. Like, what matters is that team went into Austin and was the better football team against an Oregon team that, you know, the switch over to more, and you're like, okay, they didn't really play anybody to start the season, but when you were watching him, you're like, okay, so Oregon has, like, seven weapons again, and their quarterback looks like he's one of the best in the country. And, like, this is a really good football team. And, like, that's the whole point. Like, I have Oregon in my rankings ahead of all those SEC teams still, because I think that much of Indiana. So any complaint or any issue or any of the things that I referenced, the Signetti, Like, I even realized, like. Like, in the. In the pie chart of, like, things that actually matter, it's such a sliver. It doesn't mean anything because that guy. To your point, like, I want to know more about what they do. Like, do you have any James Madison stuff? Like, I know I have connections to the boosters. After going to the after party with PFT after he almost killed a guy from Wisconsin, then later apologized in the concourse.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Good guy.

[B]

Really? Yeah. You guys worked it out.

[C]

But now, to be fair, in that moment, I. I probably had, you know, I. I had some big balls in the moment because I knew that I had the two best security guards in the world there. Max and then Ryan, who Tuxedo. And I was in a tuxedo. No one wants to punch a guy in a tuxedo. Like, biceps swollen, busting through his T shirt. Like, nobody was me that night. It was. It was. I got this guy on call. It was like, robin, big. You were my big.

[A]

Yeah, Rip, I think.

[B]

I think Max was. Was ready to jump in because I was like, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing anything. Because we also had low man position, which in. In the seats is not helpful.

[C]

No, it's not.

[B]

Not a level playing ground at all. So I was like, I don't really want to do this. I don't want this headline. But I was able to connect with a bunch of the JMU people afterwards. I love those guys rocking rugby jackets. Like, that's a. I've been telling people about you people now since that night. Like, that's a. That's a wild group, and I'm really impressed. But I mean, to bring it back to Signetti, like, do you have further perspective?

[C]

Like, yeah. I mean, the only thing that.

[B]

Go ahead.

[C]

I was gonna say the only thing I've heard about his practices that he would run at JMU was he was, like, relatively hands off during practice. He would spend a lot of time watching from either in the stands, sometimes in. In the. In the booth, looking down on practice and, like, taking in a holistic approach of looking at the team. I. Now, that might not be how he conducts every single practice, but I heard he did a lot of that and then spent a lot of time just by himself breaking stuff down in practice. And then he would give the message to his coaches, okay, here's how we're going to attack it. He wasn't so much, like, checking in on everybody micromanaging. He was a big picture guy.

[A]

Kdick, who. Who played for Signetti last year, who works with us now, he. He said that he's got a little, like, Harbaugh in him, where he's a little off, but in a great way where it's like.

[C]

No, that is not the.

[A]

He's A. He's a little off. You gotta. We're gonna have to create, like, a tree for you so you. A chart that you. Yeah.

[B]

If you have some index cards. So, yeah, we got you stuff. That'd be great.

[A]

We got you. But a little off, but in a great way. Like, Harbaugh's a little off, but it's because he just loves football so much that it just keeps everyone a little bit on edge, but in a really sharp way that I think some of these special coaches, like. Like, they're. They're wired different, and it can really work. Especially in this case.

[C]

People used to tell me all the time, like, he is a clone of Nick Saban, which I would, like, laugh about, because obviously he's not Nick Saban. But people would always tell me, like, he has so many Saban, like, qualities, it would blow your mind if you spent time around him. I never felt like I would ever say that publicly because you're comparing him to the greatest coach who ever lived. But I think you're starting to see some of that, you know, some similarities come through with the guy when it comes to his football minds.

[D]

I love.

[A]

He said that UCLA is a 3.0team. That's a classic. Like, yeah, I. You know, he just gets up and fries. Like, we're playing a 3.0team because, you know, they. They change their coach and they're 3. 0. And, like, that's how we're approaching this game.

[B]

The head coach that no one knows is all, yeah, yeah, ucla. I just. It's just funny because he's in every single picture. And it's like the interim head coach. Like, am I actually the head coach coach?

[C]

Yeah. New hustle's breaking them down after games.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He's, like, handing out game balls again.

[B]

To your point, on, like, the signetti stuff and being on savings, whatever it was, whatever this is in the way his team responds. And to turn it around, there are teams all over the country with far better resources, boosters willing to do whatever you need. And for this guy to be like, if we're just average in resources, then I can win here. And you're just like, what are you talking about? Talking about. Yeah, and he's done it. And, you know, I'm. I'm not. If they lose, I don't know. Like, the fact that, you know, Big Cat, you even said, too. The fact that I'm even thinking of, like, if they play Ohio State, the Big Ten championship game, like, I have to think about my pick and I might go, you know what why don't you just go the other way with this? Instead of. Clearly, Ohio State will be favored. It's going to be impossible to pick against them. We're going to be factoring the history and the uniform and all that kind of stuff. Maybe the smarter football minds can be like, hey, there's a match up here on the outside. Or there's something here where they're interpreted lineman that, you know, advantage Indiana, maybe, like, explain it to me, because it doesn't matter. Like, if they don't beat him. Like, this is. This is entire. If they're bounced out of the playoff, they don't win the Big Ten championship game. There's no. No one should be going, oh, see, same old Indian. No, like, what are you talking about?

[A]

That's. Yeah, that's the difference. All right, give me a team that is maybe not in the top five that you're like, watch out for them.

[B]

I'll.

[A]

I'll throw one out there. I. Georgia Tech just keeps winning. They're like the. They're bizarro world Auburn. And Auburn just finds a way to lose. Like, Auburn goes into every game like, hey, watch this. You never thought we could lose this way. And then they lose. Georgia Tech does the opposite, where they just keep. And Brent Key's been awesome, and Haynes King, like, he's just a dog. He's not the, like, most talented guy, but he's. I love college football because you can get a guy like Haynes King or Diego Pavia where it's like, this guy might not be, you know, some stud NFL player, but he. He just knows how to play college football.

[B]

Yeah, I've been a big Haynes King fan for a while because he's just so incredibly tough. Yeah, he's pretty old now, too. So, like, you worry, like, there's knee. He's going to be hurting him the next day. And then, you know, there are times over the course of a season where sometimes watching can be worse for you. And I'll always reference the Iowa, Wisconsin game or when Iowa had that season. And Dan and I would argue about it all the time. And I'm like, this team should not be playing for a national championship. Okay? They should not be in the conversation because I thought they were so gross and yet won every single week. And that Wisconsin game in particular. I watched that whole game. I'm like, what? I'm like, what is this? But that was just like, one game. I watched the weight game because Robbie Ashford was out there. Who. I think the Robbie Ashford story is like, one of the most incredible timelines in present day college football. And then everybody would bring him in and be like, this guy's like a two sport guy. He's nasty. He got hurt in that game. Then he came back. They weren't able to win it double overtime. So like, I was like, all right, Georgia Tech's nice. They always seem to outperform expectations. Keys record against ranked teams, especially when they're underdogs, is incredible. But sometimes like that weight game. Yeah, it's gonna. There's like a wake hangover for that one. But I mean, the rest of the way it's Q sits. NC State, BC Pitt. And then we'll see what happens against Georgia.

[A]

Pitt's been playing better, by the way.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like the Louisville call.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, Louisville's only loss is three points to Virginia, who's really good. And Miller Moss is good. Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think you can make an argument that Miller Moss was kind of like, I don't know enough about the SC situation, but was the fall guy for that team.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. To your point about the meaty good earlier, the like 25 to 40 ranked teams in America, how many of those would come from the American? Because that, that conference right there, if we're talking like group of five, the top of the American is insanely good right now. Yeah, they got Navy, South Florida, Tulane, Memphis, and North Texas. And any one of those teams could make the playoffs.

[A]

I love North Texas. They just score, that's all.

[B]

Yeah, I think all these teams are really good.

[A]

East Carolina's good too.

[B]

Yeah, put it on Carolina. Coastal Carolina. Earlier this year, I remember that was listening to a gambling show, just driving around and this guy was like, coastal sucks, everybody. No one understands, like, this team is any good. He's like, I'm hammering ECU and I didn't know anything like. And I'm just in the car going, I don't think I've ever heard anyone more confident about a pick because it was like getting through all the picks and all the headliner stuff. He's like, I got one for. For you. And of course, I think I was like, he. I mean, they shut him out. And then I was looking at it the next week and then it was like, are you going to be the. That trails this the week after he made this pick? And I think Coastal covered the next week and I was like, okay, that's sort of a win by not getting involved in any of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Look, the American thing has had stories all season long. Whether it's Memphis getting Arkansas, you know, at the goal line, fumble with that game. South Florida, where, you know, there was a part where I'm kind of like arguing about SEC in some of the, you know, because it was always kind of funny like if the SEC would lose a non conference game, it's like, oh, hey Rosalie. Just happens to me all the time. And it's like, hey, are you going to bed? Because there's still like three more games on tonight. Let's see how these go. So when Florida lost to South Florida, considering how the game played out too, and then a kick, it's like, you know what, South Florida is like a, like it's not a terrible loss, even if it's a non powerful for school. And then they get absolutely destroyed by Miami, which I think them beating Florida helped Miami kind of lock into that game there. And then Tulane, who has the revenge game against Duke, gets that win. So that top group has a bunch of really good wins. Where I would say in years past, I get kind of frustrated about teams getting through a conference like that than being allowed to play for a national championship because I just don't think that it's. Well, because it isn't. It's not an opinion. It's not the same exercise to have to play 12 games in the conference like that. But to your point, the top half of it is, is really strong.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you were to pick one conference, if you were to say, okay, the Big Ten is going to win the national championship, the SEC is going to win, which one would you bet on?

[B]

Oh, the Big Ten. I don't. Yeah, I mean, look, it's, it's. I'm not saying it's impossible. Bama's growing into something, but you know, Bama gets a lot of the carryover of like Bama. It's like, dude, it's been a couple years now, all right? Like it's not. You've got the Milro loss against Michigan and the place again, it's all not on Milroe. They come back last year, they lose three games, they're a mess. Ty Simpson, you know, to his credit in that Florida State ass kicking, I thought he was like fighting the whole game. So I did take a positive out of that. And like this is just an awful three hours for Ty Simpson running around as Florida State looks like world beaters. So they're going to have this loss that looks terrible considering what Florida State's going through right now. But you know, teams are allowed to grow and get Better or get worse, which I think is kind of overlooked at times. So I feel like Alabama is rounding into shape here more and even with the loss, resume wise, it looks worse than obviously A and M's clean sheet. But you know, I probably like Tennessee more than I like Georgia, to be honest with you.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Their defense though, man.

[B]

Yeah, but that Georgia defense isn't.

[A]

Yeah, no, I agree.

[D]

It's.

[A]

It's just all the SEC teams are. The SEC is the new Big 12.

[C]

Tennessee's defense wasn't necessarily the problem on, on Saturday. It was the pick six at the end of the first half against Alabama. That's the worst possible thing that can happen to a football team. That is, that's it. That's what it is. Like one yard line, two yard line, you're about to make it, what like a two point game and then pick six as there's zero seconds left on the clock in that first. There's no way that Tennessee was coming back from that.

[A]

Yeah, I, I just think they're, I don't know, I don't trust like Alabama hasn't been able to run the ball this year and they still, they, you know, they were able to find something against Tennessee, but I'm telling you, that.

[B]

Hill kid, I don't know how many carries he can, he can get, but I thought he was a big story. And McElroy is always all over it too because of the Alabama part of it. But he was moving bodies around and you know, it kind of drives me crazy sometimes when these college teams will have like two projected first round tack or tackles can be a little different. But like it say like one side of the line has a couple NFL guys. You're like, how can you not run the football to that side of the field? Yeah, like, yeah, what's going on here? It's a bit like not to bring them up again, But LSU having four of their offensive linemen from 24 drafted and I was like, I thought that group as a unit wasn't even that good last year and then four guys got drafted. So maybe, maybe I'm wrong about it. I'm trying to think of who else here because you know, sometimes I get a little too married to the number. I was really impressed with BYU against Utah.

[A]

Yep, agreed.

[B]

I thought it was a little schedule with them. You know, they finally played somebody. Although the more I watched ampere with Utah, I think it limits them. I think it was kind of a fun story in the beginning. But that was also UCLA before they hired new houses the head coach. But you know, look, that Holy war. Those. Those teams hit the. Out of each other. But Bachmire, like, he's pretty good.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's, it's hard because I've his older brother. I lost so much money gambling as he traveled around the country and the number that pop up on a new, new team and I would like week one, I just bet a team and be like, what the. I ha. I bet on Hank Fire again. But yeah, no, I was impressed with them. I also, I still like Oklahoma's. The problem with Oklahoma is their schedule is just so ridiculous. But their defense is good. I'm a big material guy. I do think he came back too fast against Texas. But like, if they can somehow they just play so many hard teams, they finish their schedule. Ole Miss at Tennessee, at Alabama, Missouri, lsu. Like I. That's a murderer's row. But if they somehow finish it three and two, I don't know. And there's, you know, the, the three loss conversation comes in. They would, they would. Their resume would be up there with anyone else.

[B]

Yeah, I know how to. State's got Penn State, Purdue, ucla, Rutgers and then Michigan. So, you know, I can see how people look at the Big Ten and go, oh, stop.

[A]

You mean. Oh, we made such good. Such good headway. All right, I got, I got one last question again, by the way, if you're listening, can I at least.

[B]

Hold on. Should we at least mention Notre Dame with this? Because I know you already brought him up. You're absolutely right. Car's good. And look, love what, however you want to just talk about, like football players.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Jeremy Bernard's one of my favorite football players in all college football. The receiver for Alabama. Like, every time he gets something out to the sideline, it's like a five yard gain. And then the guy has the angle on him and he goes to tackle him and it's like, guess who's still standing up on the sideline? It's Jeremy Bernard. Like, the guy's nuts. Love for Notre Dame. I don't think there's 10 better football players in college than him. Like, you know, again, I'm not talking about draft picks or the scarcity or the importance of the position or whatever, but like, every time that kid gets going, I'm like, I don't think there's that many players that are playing on Saturdays that are better than he is.

[A]

He should be Heisman. I mean, what he did was special. He should be Heisman. Dude.

[B]

How about the Heisman stuff right now? Like, who the hell is gonna.

[D]

No one.

[A]

So you know what I'm hoping for? Because Jeremiah Love was my husband before the season. No, I want, I really want Jeremiah Love to get like almost identical to Ash and Genti's numbers and then just be like, we up last year, guys, we got to make it right. We gotta vote. Jeremiah Love this year. He's not gonna get to his numbers, but he does have a soft schedule at the end. And also Notre Dame, by the way, I said it after they started owing two, I was like, they're actually in the exact same spot they were last year because the Northern Illinois loss was one loss. This is two losses to playoff teams. They're gonna run the table. They're going to figure it out. They're going to be in the playoff. And I think more than that, there are legit very, very good team now where it's not just, oh, they played a soft schedule. They figured some stuff out and they lost with a, with a freshman quarterback on the Road Week 1 in Miami and then lost with a fucked up kick against Texas A and M who's undefeated. That Notre Dame is good. Notre Dame is good.

[B]

Yeah. The NC State game was kind of like a weird, slow start. And then once they've given up a ton of points to Purdue because I was in the same boat as everybody else, but again, I, I think we, we do it far too often. It's like, okay, they have these two good losses. We all agreed that Carr was good. We felt good about Carr after losses, which is an okay thing to do. The same way I felt great about Howard and the loss against Oregon last year because I didn't really know what to make of him coming over from K State and then even losing, I go, you know what though? They have something in Howard here, so they're going to be okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think the same thing, you know, even though Howard had of a lot longer resume of games that we'd seen him play in, CJ being new, that Miami game was like, hey, this looked like everything was working against him and now he's got this team back into this whole thing. But there were then after we just go, hey, they're going to be favorite against the next 10 opponents. It's like, okay, but it's, we're acting like it's way too easy to be like, okay, they'll just have to go 10 and 0 now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Having said that, even with how come the defense is a little weird? They look like they could have scored 100 points against Arkansas.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And yeah, the NC State game was, was kind of like a weird start to the whole thing, but there's just a lot that I really like and it starts with love at running back and you know, it's kind of a two headed monster there. So the offense is fine. I don't, I don't know if the defense will be as good as, I mean, what are we talking about elite defenses right now? Two teams, Ohio State and Indiana?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I mean A and M has some really good stats, you know, but I don't, I don't know. Yeah. You know, and then, you know, coming off the Arkansas game, it, it makes it, it's a tough case to make that A and M's defense is the level of those other two Big Ten teams.

[A]

I'd agree. Okay, so Ryan everyone subscribe. New podcast coming out November 3rd. I have one last question. Roback question rhobac.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts roback.com promo code take take. Who's going to win the NBA title?

[B]

I'm picking the Denver Nuggets.

[A]

Okay, nice.

[C]

Interesting.

[B]

There's no reason, there's no reason to pick against okc. They're going to be even better. Ched will be better. He'll probably play for more games. I mean it's like 50 games last year. Jalen Williams, even though he's got this issue that he's dealing with and he's going to be in the opener tonight, he likely would be better. Wallace will be better. They've got topic somebody like, they're just going to be better. So it doesn't make any sense. I, I, anybody that wants to pick them, I'm like, hey, that's great. I just wanted, I picked them last year. I want to do something a little different this year. So I'm picking the Denver Nuggets.

[C]

Okay. And in the east, would it, how big of a disappointment would it be if the 76ers did not make the NBA Finals this year? Good question.

[B]

Wait, how big of a they be? Yeah, if they're like a 48, 50 win team and Embiid's healthy and they're ready to go.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, look, he's never gotten out of the second round. So an Easter Conference finals appearance for that team would be a huge win. So I wouldn't if they didn't get through the east down here, like, oh, hey, that's no, I wouldn't be like, hey, that's a real huge disappointment. They weren't able to get through.

[A]

I would.

[C]

I mean, he's the mvp. He. He won an mvp. It's down year for the East. You got a lot of superstars injured that. That would be on teams that would be in their way, teams that have bounced them out of the playoffs in the past. This, to me, is as open as it's ever going to be for the Sixers.

[B]

Cleveland's really good, and I know that they don't have the playoff success, but that team won 64 games last year. DeAndre Hunter coming over the trade only played 27 with them. It's the most expensive team in the league, so it's going to work out this year. And I know Mitchell has probably more playoff disappointments, but if you look at his individual stuff and what he's been able to do, like, this is all time like, when he cranks it up in a playoff game, like, he can kind of hang with almost like anyone historically, from a scoring standpoint. So I am so down on the Sixers that I can't sit here and say, if they don't get to the NBA Finals, this is a massively dis. Just writing the ship and then being competitive and being. That would mean that they. That Cleveland, New York or Orlando, two of those three teams are out, and Philly's playing one of those. Just that. That would be, I think, a massive, massive, successful season. For who? The Sixers have been here the last couple years.

[C]

I. I just believe in the Sixers a little bit more than. Yeah, I guess it's. Yeah, I'm gonna. I think Sixers in the east, easily.

[A]

No, this isn't a bit Max.

[E]

You got to know what they're doing. This is crazy that it's gone this long and then you've, like, taken this as a serious question.

[A]

Welcome to Barstool. Ryan, you just stop playing.

[B]

Oh, man.

[E]

They're just making fun of.

[C]

Yeah, we're just. We're setting Max up. We're setting them up for ultimate disappointment.

[B]

Max, you don't think this team's gonna be any good?

[C]

Dude.

[E]

No. That's why.

[A]

That's the whole.

[E]

When you. If they got to the Eastern Conference finals, that would be great. That would be awesome.

[A]

Oh, man. All right.

[B]

Because PFT's like, a big NFL guy.

[C]

Huge.

[B]

So I was like, maybe he's just not. He's not honed.

[C]

No, I'm a Josh Harris guy, and Josh Harris, he owns the Sixers. So that's what he does. He gets to the Eastern Conference finals.

[B]

I like Josh Harris. And if you hire Bob Myers, who's one of the single most impressive human beings I've ever encountered. Whoa then.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Yeah, Whoa. It's a high ranking. What's your most impressive human being you've ever met?

[A]

Stanford Steve.

[C]

He's pretty impressive. This is it.

[A]

He ranking next to Stanford Steve. Is that. That's.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, he's got a hollow leg.

[C]

He might be my most impressive dude.

[A]

Yeah, he's number one dude. Yeah.

[C]

But Bob Myers, that's an impressive man.

[B]

I've seen Steve drunk once, and I've drank a lot with him.

[A]

Yep. Yep.

[B]

At least there was only one time where I'm like, wait, are you. Is your equilibrium off right now? Like, you're always so stay. I mean, like, that's not even it. He'll have some random play for you and be like, what are you against the spread this year? Be like, I love it. Two on Saturdays.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Stanford Steve's a pretty good pick. DiCaprio, Bob Myers or Stanford Steve? You can't go wrong with any of those three.

[A]

No, that's a good. That's a good trio.

[B]

Who knows? Leo might be a distant third and hanging out. Although the water gun fights look fun.

[A]

Also, you haven't spent enough time with White Sox Dave yet, which we'll fix, so he could be easily in your top three soon.

[B]

Yeah, no, that's definitely. There's some, like, video only stuff that we've talked to porno about doing. And I was like, like, whatever I do. White Sox Dave. White Sox Dave. White Sox Dave. Just want to be in it. Maybe like a long form thing or even a travel show. Oh, no, travel.

[C]

Donnie goes to Turkey.

[B]

Yeah, but White Sox Dave was like, we can go to Michigan.

[A]

Yeah. What about Nikki smokes? You can go to a dive bar. That's not a dive bar. We got. The possibilities are endless here at Barstool.

[C]

Maybe get to show you around Baton Rouge.

[A]

Yeah. See you on you.

[B]

You.

[A]

Mincy is looking for someone to videotape him going to Mexico for widespread panic. New Year's. It's four nights. I think you're the guy for the job.

[B]

That's also in my contract.

[A]

No Ben Mints.

[B]

It's just like, I don't want to ruin what it is for me.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't want it to be real.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, it's real.

[B]

I like being a voyeur. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. All right, everyone, subscribe. Ryan, his first new Pods coming out November 3rd with Rudy and Kyle. And please subscribe everywhere. You get pods. Number one.

[C]

Number one.

[A]

Pretty good.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I've always wanted to do that tweet, and I will say goodbye here, but we have a lot of friends. Yeah. You know, they launch the new feed and then the new feed is up. And then if you have any subscriber growth, which is usually pretty easy to accomplish when it starts at zero to whatever the new thing is, the Apple show rankings, like, just get. They freak out. They freak out. And so there's been a few people that have suggested that it's real. So I was like, when it happens to me, because I knew it was going to happen. I was like, I'm going to post. Oh, my God, I'm number one with part of my take. It's so clearly number one in sports. Okay. Like, they're so number one that I'm offended when other people do it because of you guys. I'm offended for you. Not even for me. So I was like, when I go to number one and then I went to, like, in the middle of the hostage release, I was like, ahead of the New York Times.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

I don't think that's accurate.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

All categories. Yeah, all categories. I was like, right up there with the heavy hitters. And it also just reminds me of, like, some of the people that don't even understand that they're not number one. So it's like the people that know they're not numbers number one and then mislead the public, and then the next tier is the person that has no idea that they actually aren't number one. And they're like, holy, I'm number one in comedy. You're like, you're not. You're not. So I always wanted to post that when I knew it was going to happen to me, to be like, hey, I'm number one. And then be like, I'm actually not number one. And this is why it shows that I'm number one. But it's going to do. All right.

[C]

I think. I think the rumors that you were romantically linked with Sabrina Carpenter, those helped. Yeah, like, that's. That helps. New heights. What if you guys were an item? You'd probably be number one.

[B]

Yeah, look, when I like the Kelsey's, but that relationship probably cost me so much money.

[C]

We should sue Taylor Swift.

[A]

Same.

[B]

Because you were just like, oh, this is kind of a funny little thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then, you know, you're like, oh, what?

[A]

Oh, and they're playing in the super bowl against each other.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Jesus Christ. Another free agent while this is happening. And now they're getting engaged. Now she got her masters back. I'm like, like, slow down the content train. Like, my deal's up here. And I was like, you know, I don't know what to do here. And my agent's like, is there anything you can do? And I was like, I'd probably not date somebody like that. And he's just like, well, not with that attitude, you know?

[C]

Come on, Ryan, you're a catch.

[B]

Oh, you know, if just going through the Mad Men roster of, like, who was in this, that I could DM still not seeing anybody be like, you know, what I really loved is in season four, when you.

[A]

All right, all right, Ryan. You're the best. Everyone subscribe. And we are. We. There's talks. I was texting with Ceruti. There's talks of maybe figuring out a time when we can get your. Your three boys in here to maybe do a Thursday Night Football stream or something. So we'll. We'll figure that out.

[B]

Yeah, can't wait. We will do that. We'll get to Chicago. I know Kyle is really excited about it, and he's the only person I've ever met that desperately, desperately wanted to move back to Poughkeepsie, New York, and he, you know, this allowed him to get to move home. And the guy loves his family, and he want to be near his family, so he. He got to move home. And so part of it, I was like, well, do. You can move to Chicago if you want? And he was like, well, does that mean Poughkeepsie's off the table? I'm like, totally on the table because, you know, he. He didn't want to live in la, so he gets to go home, but he'll be in Chicago. So thanks, guys. Thanks for everything. Really appreciate it.

[A]

All right, thanks, Ryan.

[C]

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[A]

Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got FAQs. Henry.

[D]

First time, long time. Oh, but.

[A]

Oh, no, no.

[C]

What happened?

[D]

What is the story behind trying to spoil the Sopranos for Hank? Yeah, actually, do tell. Well, Hank, they're just bad people.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

I'll.

[D]

I'll tell us.

[C]

Hank was 10 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

I started watching the Sopranos and I was like 20 years outpranos, guys. Okay, so now you're gatekeeping when a person can watch or not watch a show? No, that's up.

[A]

You can't expect. You can't expect there to be no spoilers.

[C]

It's 10 years late.

[A]

Like, spoilers happen naturally in life.

[D]

I told you guys privately I was watching a show, and then you guys decided to not tell me privately. Spoilers on the podcast that I was producing that we had to record so I could not. Literally could not avoid it. Okay, you said it into the mic that I would then have to listen to in real time and listen to again.

[C]

Well, to be fair, Hank, I thought that you knew that Adriana was a rat. Christopher turned her into the FBI, and he said that he was just going to, like, go out for a while and they were going to move away, and then she got picked up in a car and taken to the Wiz and shot. We thought that you knew that already.

[A]

I'd like to say, but.

[C]

No, you didn't.

[D]

You knew. I didn't know that because I told you where I was in the watching. You knew that I was not, at.

[C]

That point, knew that Sylvia was going to pick her up and be like, we're going to the hospital and take her to the woods.

[A]

Can I say something, please, Hank? I guess.

[D]

Yeah, fine.

[A]

The way you just explained it, I want to say that's really up of us, and we're, like, hearing it back. That was up. We are.

[C]

It was a segment on the show. Like, spoilers. That's not true.

[D]

That's not true. You just invented that. You guys would do it. You guys would just weave them into the show, like, for weeks. It wasn't a one time.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

We're.

[A]

We're bad people. And we took something. Like when Bobby Bacala was with his train set and he got whacked. Like, we took something you loved and then we killed you right in front of it.

[D]

I never finished it, so I don't. I didn't love it. I was like, I'm liking the show, and then you spoiled it for me.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Our bad. Our bad.

[C]

I think we're just talking about pop culture on this.

[A]

It's not like we ran over your head. Like, Phil Leotardo's head.

[C]

It popped.

[D]

Don't know what that means.

[C]

His head popped. It was crazy in a gas station.

[A]

What do you want us to do, suck your dick?

[D]

I don't know what that means.

[A]

Like, veto in the whole season that he was gay.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

He's still mad about this. He's still. He's still very upset.

[A]

We do sound like. I. There's no. There's no telling of the story. That doesn't make. Pft. And I look like there's nothing.

[E]

I like how you tried to apologize there. And Hank was like, I don't know why you're apologizing. PFD said one more thing, and then he just ignored what you said about apologizing.

[C]

Yeah. Listen, Hank, if you're going to get it spoiled by somebody, you'd want it to be somebody that you knew and trusted. Like when. When Tony went after his cut, when Steve Buscemi and waited for him with a shotgun outside his house.

[A]

His cousin.

[D]

Yeah, Steve Buscemi was in Sopranos.

[A]

Yeah. Fresh out of jail.

[C]

He tried to become a massage therapist. Afterwards, he tried to go straight, but it wasn't working out for him.

[A]

He had a rage, fell back on that life.

[C]

And then Tony found out he was going off the handle and doing jobs for other crews. And then Tony was like, if someone's going to kill him, it should be me. Yeah, that's how we felt about. We didn't want the. We didn't want some random person online to spoil it for you, so we did it ourselves.

[E]

Do you think there's anyone right now who's listening to or watching for the first time?

[A]

Spoiler alert.

[C]

No. Every time I sprinkle one in, I get one person be like, what the.

[E]

Well, this was a lot. Yeah, this was a lot of. So this is a lot. You could just ruin it for.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

We might have just that. Like Carmela's teacher.

[D]

Sup, pmt guys appreciate all that you guys do. If you weren't doing the pod or anything with barstool, period, what career do you think you guys would have Hating my life?

[C]

I would. I think I would have gone back to the used dog game. I think that would have been a lot of fun. Yeah.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

I don't know. I tried not to think about that because at this point, we're so far down this hole that it's like we don't really have any skills that would transfer over to a real job.

[A]

I am. In terms of the real world, I am so fucking stupid. I don't know what I would do.

[B]

Do.

[C]

Yeah, you're telling me.

[A]

Sitting in a meeting, typing things, logging. These are things I don't have any ability to do anymore.

[C]

Logging on to teams.

[E]

Oh, I almost wanted to be an accountant.

[A]

Oh. No offense to accountants. Listen.

[C]

No, it's.

[A]

I'm so far down the line of, like, I. I'm just a stupid, stupid person now.

[C]

I may be the least proficient person in excel in the world.

[A]

Have you gotten dumber Yeah, I, I'll.

[D]

I can never work a real job right at this point. It's too late.

[C]

Burn the boats.

[E]

Freshman year, I just.

[D]

I don't think I would have ended up working a real job when I started working here. But now I definitely would not be able to.

[A]

I. I will say there are some times that I kind of. There's. I don't want to. On people who are sitting in an office right now because there's parts of it that are like. We're never get to turn it off. Like going to games, having weekends where you don't have to, you know, be glued to everything.

[C]

That's what I like about the Monday night football games. I know the, the standalone. You get to just kind of chill on the couch, shout out all the.

[A]

Hard working people out there. Thank you for listening. We didn't mean to. We were more on Max being an accountant. The worst account. You'd go to jail if you hired him.

[C]

Terrible.

[E]

I just got like one good grade in an accounting class freshman year and I was like, maybe, maybe I could be an accountant. Yeah, like make decent money.

[C]

Do you know how to use a spreadsheet?

[E]

At the time, I was, I was okay.

[A]

Now, no, we're just so far gone. I'm so far.

[C]

Yeah, I'm out of that.

[A]

Even having a formal meeting with anyone is just uncomfortable.

[C]

I've aged out of the workforce. Can you imagine, like logging into Microsoft Teams or whatever every morning?

[A]

I don't know how to use anything.

[C]

Yeah, slack.

[A]

I use three things on my computer.

[D]

I'd be slacking.

[E]

We use slack.

[A]

Yeah, you guys do.

[B]

They do slack.

[A]

They slack. They talk about us on slack.

[E]

That's not true.

[A]

Oh, memes.

[B]

A little bit.

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

What would you do? Memes. You were an accountant.

[C]

Accounts receivable.

[A]

Accounts receivable. What is that?

[E]

That sounds like account.

[A]

See, I don't even know what that is. It's a part of accounting that comes in. When we started Stella Blue, I remember I sat in a meeting and they were talking about P. L and I had to pull someone aside after. I was like, hey, they keep saying that shit. What does that mean? It's profits and losses.

[C]

So accounts deliverable is what that's paying people memes.

[B]

You said accounts deliverable.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Receivable.

[C]

No, deliverable. Accounts payable.

[B]

And there's accounts receivable.

[A]

Which one were you?

[B]

Counter. She bowl.

[A]

So you're coming in.

[B]

Accounts payables. Money going out.

[A]

You're getting money.

[E]

You're getting money in there somewhere.

[A]

We're breaking people's brains.

[C]

Accounts receivables for the diva Accountants.

[A]

Wait, you were getting money in? You were just counting the money that was coming in?

[B]

Money coming in? Yeah.

[A]

You're just counting it?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Do. Do bosses like the people in that department more than they like the people in the accounts payable? Because, like, these are my. These are my. I get money guys.

[A]

Like, these are. They like.

[C]

They like everybody the same.

[A]

These are jobs. I don't even when I'm. I've gotten so stupid, functionally stupid, that when you ask what. What jobs would you be? I'm like, firefighter, astronaut, major league baseball. I don't know what accounts receivable is. I'm sure we have it here. Okay, good question.

[D]

Who smells the best?

[C]

I would guess maybe Zach. Zach. You a cologne guy?

[F]

I'm not a huge cologne guy. No. I'm just a soap guy. Deodorant guy.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I smell pretty good. I have some cologne I wear.

[C]

Yes. I got.

[A]

I got on Gruden's cologne.

[F]

Oh, the Creed.

[A]

Yeah, it's good. It's good.

[C]

I've started to. I've started to take a little cologne in the mornings. I wouldn't say that we're a particularly great smelling crew.

[A]

I don't think we're bad. I think we're neutral. We're a neutral smelling podcast.

[E]

I would argue that's the best.

[C]

That's the best place to be.

[E]

Sometimes when guys smell too good, it's like, what are you trying to do?

[A]

No, I do one smell good. Yeah, I do one spritz of cologne on my. When I get out of the shower. On with no shirt on. So that way. Because I do think that if you spray it on your shirt, it becomes too much.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So I just like to have a little bit of it on my body and then, you know, a faint hint of it.

[C]

Do you ever put it on your wrist?

[A]

Nah, because I feel like that's too much.

[C]

Yeah, it's too much.

[A]

You don't want to be a too much cologne guy.

[C]

You know who the best smelling person I've ever met in real life is? Never in a million years.

[D]

I do.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I probably is number one.

[C]

No, no, there's.

[A]

I.

[C]

Out of all the people that we've met doing this show, there's one person that smells far and away better than any other celebrity I've ever met. And I guarantee you 0% of the people that are listening to this will guess it correctly.

[A]

Okay, give it to me.

[C]

It's Carrot Top. Oh, Carrot Top. Smells incredible.

[A]

Wow. I would not have guessed. No.

[C]

And it was shocking to the point where I was asking other people, like, hey, you smelling this guy? They're like, yeah, he smells amazing. He was doing a live celebrity dozen with us. I think that was in Vegas, right? And I asked him. I was like, caretop.

[B]

What.

[C]

What is that smell that you have? And he would not tell me. He said he has his own custom cologne.

[A]

Holy shit.

[C]

That's mixed just for him that he wears. And it's listening. It delivers. Whatever he pays for it, it works. You guys know what they make cologne out of? Perfume.

[A]

What are you gonna say, like, dog?

[C]

Pretty much. Oh, whale.

[A]

Ooh.

[C]

They make cologne out of whale.

[A]

Why are you looking at assets, liabilities, and owner's equity?

[C]

We.

[E]

I would.

[A]

I said.

[E]

Remember I said assets. I was like, I'm pretty sure there's some sort of equation with assets. And I was right. And then. But accounts receivable, part of assets.

[A]

We're stupid. Idiot. Jazz. That it?

[B]

That's it.

[A]

Okay. Good show, guys.

[C]

Good show.

[A]

Numbers three. Oh, that was Hank. What do we got?

[E]

Pug's making the decision.

[C]

That'd be track number seven. That'd be me.

[A]

Oh, damn.

[C]

You them up. You them up.

[A]

Memes should have gone 99.

[C]

Officer Ferretto when he thought that he killed his horse.

[E]

33.

[C]

And we'll never know.

[A]

I'll go 25, 22, and I'll wait till Jack takes it.

[B]

7, 44. Ah. 99. Pug.

[C]

86.

[A]

What do you have? 50.

[C]

37. Anybody else take 37?

[E]

I take 33.

[B]

Let's see. 3.

[A]

53. 53. Anyone? Anyone?

[C]

53.

[A]

Anyone? One more. Real quick. The same numbers.

[E]

Yes, real quick.

[C]

Real quick.

[A]

Same numbers. Same numbers. Same numbers.

[B]

Who's going to win 25.

[E]

No, you're going to get.

[A]

You're going to get multiple numbers. Good for you. This is bad for you.

[E]

Like, Hank wasn't getting these. These many polls.

[A]

That's facts. He literally did one when he did 10. 55.

[E]

55, 55.

[A]

No one.

[C]

Love you guys.

[B]

Sa.