Ryen Russillo In Studio, NFL Schedule Release, Zoo Trades, Playoffs And Fyre Fest

Summary

Pardon My Take – Episode Summary

Episode: Ryen Russillo In Studio, NFL Schedule Release, Zoo Trades, Playoffs And Fyre Fest
Air Date: May 15, 2026
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Guest: Ryen Russillo

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Episode Overview

This lively, sports-packed episode welcomes NBA analyst Ryen Russillo in studio, alongside the PMT crew. The group rolls through an NFL schedule release roast, breaks down the latest NBA and NHL playoff action, debates the value of wild animal trades between zoos, and closes out with a typically unfiltered, hilarious “Fyre Fest of the Week” segment that devolves into a full-on team softball fight. There are deep dives into sports media quirks, plenty of memorable one-liners, and a lot of laughs – perfect for sports fans looking for a dose of serious analysis and unserious banter.

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1. NFL Schedule Release: Why Are We Still Doing This?

[03:07 – 18:45]

• Overhyped Drama: The hosts agree the NFL schedule release is blown out of proportion, mocking the “slow drip” reveal and calling out the “Shieldy” fans obsessed with every detail.
  • “If you explained what the schedule release was to Vince Lombardi, he'd spit in your face.” – Big Cat (03:53)
• Real Fan Reaction: Most real fans glance, check for their bye week and primetime games, then forget about it until August.
  • “It's a look at it for three minutes and then forget about it.” – Hank (08:05)
• International Games: The proliferation of international games (London, Germany, Australia, Rio, Madrid) prompts skepticism about the logistical toll and “journalism stunts” of trying to attend them all.
  • “What if I just go on an 11-week international game trip?” – Hank (17:33)
• Thanksgiving/Christmas Scheduling: Praise for the jam-packed holiday schedule, but some lament having to play both days.
• Fan Planning: For most, the only real excitement is booking travel for unique away games and primetime showdowns.

Notable Quotes:

• “Anyone, anytime, anywhere – except just not overseas.” – Big Cat (15:07)
• “Waiting all day for the release of a schedule…who cares?” – Hank (04:53)

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2. Playoff Talk: NBA and NHL Updates

[27:00 – 45:00]

NBA Playoffs

• James Harden Discourse: The guys and Russillo debate if “Big Game James” is really back, noting how Harden’s playoff reputation is always teetering.
  • “It's a perfect setup because now we've reached the point where we're like, I think James Harden has finally figured it out in the playoffs and we forget that we've said that probably nine times before.” – Big Cat (53:20)
• Cavs vs. Pistons: Analysis on the series, how the Cavs fought harder down the stretch, the Pistons’ scoring woes, and the oddity of using third-string centers in key overtime minutes.
  • “Detroit's offense... a mess... you can't really lie anymore in the playoffs.” – Russillo (59:15)
• Knicks Confidence: PMT crew and Russillo notice a dangerous overconfidence in Knicks fans based on regular season matchups, discuss the weirdness of the Eastern Conference, and the flaws of each contender.
  • “Every one of these fanbases should think they have a chance.” – Russillo (57:53)
• Rest vs. Rust Debate: Will teams that swept (with days off) or teams coming off a tough 7-game set fare better? Russillo shares gym/training metaphors and his experience.
  • “You go too long and it’s atrophy.” – Big Cat (62:10)
• Wemby/Luka/OKC Hype: Wembanyama’s unreal rookie season is praised, and whether the Spurs are ready to beat OKC is debated.
  • “He is the best watch in the NBA.” – Russillo (68:00)

NHL Playoffs

• Minnesota Meltdown: Avalanche knock out the Wild in crushing fashion; Barstool’s Biz “dancing on their grave.”
  • “Brutal Minnesota fans in a couple decades of tough playoff losses.” – Big Cat (32:16)
• General Hockey Pain: If your team loses, “you just say fuck hockey for a few days…I can't even look at ice.”

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3. Sports Oddities: Pro Golf Rules & Epic Zoo Trades

[20:00 – 27:00 & 36:00 – 46:00]

PGA Championship

• Garrick Higgo’s Penalty: South African golfer penalized for missing his tee time by one second, philosophizes on the relativity of time in a press conference.
  • “If you think about it…I was there on time, if you know what I mean.” – Garrick Higgo via Big Cat (20:40)
  • Leads to a PMT tangent on time, Einstein, and Interstellar.

Zoo Trades

• Blockbuster Gorilla Swap: Boston and Pittsburgh zoos swap male gorillas: Boston gets young prospect Frankie, Pittsburgh gets veteran Little Joe for breeding.
  • “Frankie's just going on a bachelor party.” – PFT (39:08)
  • “Little Joe probably demanded a trade so he could go somewhere and start again.” – Big Cat (38:30)
• Trade Analysis: The crew applies sports trade logic to the deal, arguing about who got fleeced, team-building, and the concept of “win-now” vs “future franchise.”
  • “When the Boston Zoo calls, don't pick up the phone because you're about to get fleeced.” – Big Cat (40:20)
• Zoo Media: Shoutout to Megan Swift for breaking the trade, calls for more zoo insiders/"zoo Shefters", and proposes a PMT zoo visit.

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4. In-Studio with Ryen Russillo: NBA Deep Dive, Softball Banter & Bachelor Party Philosophy

[49:20 – 105:00]

• NBA Nerd Outs: Russillo gets serious on lineup efficiency, trade rumors (Knicks, Lakers, Nuggets, Wizards), draft debate (AJ vs. Peterson), and making sense of the “try-hard” Eastern Conference teams.
  • “Cade could end up becoming the best point guard in the NBA.” – Russillo (103:32)
• LeBron/MJ Argument: The group riffs on the eternal LeBron-Jordan debate, and why fans never change sides.
  • “It’s almost become, like, what's your favorite flavor of ice cream?” – PFT (77:35)
• Softball Meltdown: The last half hour becomes a PMT classic – an unhinged, lengthy debate about the office’s 16-inch softball team, with Max and PFT bickering over whether or not teammates “swing too hard,” culminating in fake walkouts, “everyone hates me” accusations, and Big Cat trolling the group chat.
  • “Anyone who tells you that you swing too hard is a fucking loser. Swing the bat.” – Max (129:57)
• Bachelor Party Segment: Russillo ponders having a bachelor party with no wedding – which his friends support “just in case.”
• Global Dating Advice: Zach asks Russillo if he’d recommend finding a life partner abroad versus domestically, Russillo votes for Midwest American women (“Chicago is the most attractive, approachable, fair sex of any major city in the US.” – Russillo, 113:00).

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5. Fyre Fest of the Week: Complaints and Meltdowns

[116:44 – End]

• Personal Lows: Crew shares their “Fyre Fest” struggles – most are minor: bad weather, missing family, Max's obsession with knishes, and lighthearted gripes about daylight.
• Softball Controversy: Max and PFT’s feud escalates into a near-comedy bit. Max threatens to quit, PFT claims the team hates him, Big Cat and Hank stir the pot.
  • “I just ruined our best hitter…now every time I'm gonna be up there, I'm just gonna be thinking about you.” – Max (138:27)
• Knish Addiction: Zach laments being three days into a healthy lifestyle but haunted by a local deli’s amazing potato knishes.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “If he was a great gorilla, they would hang on to him. You don't let a gorilla like that walk in free agency.” – Big Cat (43:04)
• “The MLB trade deadline wishes it had zoo trades.” – (Segment riff)
• “You swing too hard – is a fucking loser. Swing the bat.” – Max (129:57)
• “Midwest sensibilities and girls that are cute you can actually talk to.” – Russillo (113:37)
• “Cade is the guy. You just have to build around him.” – Russillo (60:12)
• “The grind doesn’t take breaks, and neither does Silverado.” – Big Cat (ad read callback, 02:53)

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Key Timestamps

• 03:07 – NFL schedule release mockery begins
• 08:11 – International game debate
• 15:07 – “Anyone, anytime, anywhere – except just not overseas.”
• 20:40 – Higgo’s “If you think about it…” time rant
• 36:30 – Gorilla trade sports talk
• 49:20 – Russillo joins, NBA deep dive starts
• 53:20 – Harden “is he back?” back-and-forth
• 68:00 – Wemby/OKC/Spurs playoff discussion
• 116:44 – Fyre Fest segment begins
• 129:57 – “Anyone who tells you swinging too hard is a loser”
• 140:42 – Zach’s “knish crisis”

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The Vibe

Staying true to classic PMT form, the show is a whirlwind of sarcastic sports insight, genuine fan analysis, and escalating inside jokes delivered at the speed of a group chat. Russillo fits seamlessly into the rhythm, providing thoughtful NBA takes and playing along with the show’s “locker room meets podcast” energy. Expect tangents, running gags, sports media shade, and plenty of lines you’ll want to repeat.

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For New Listeners

If you want a combination of heated sports debate, absurdist humor, and original content you won’t get from any other major show (from analyzing the implications of a zoo trading gorillas to the philosophy of time, beer drinking and optimal sports performance), this episode is a great slice of what makes Pardon My Take a staple for the sports-obsessed and sports-skeptical alike.

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Skip the schedule release TV show, listen to PMT instead. And swing hard – but not too hard.

Transcript

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

I've got my own schedule release. Big cat.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Anyone, anytime, anywhere.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

We did it, guys. The off season sucked, but now we have schedules to look at. Just go through his team schedule. Right now you're going 11 and 6.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I'm, I'm happy that we've all come to the same conclusion that the schedule release is, is, is way too overhyped and, and annoying and that the leaks are annoying and just give it to us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If you're a real Die Hard like we are, the real schedule release is the schedule release for the schedule release last week when they said, hey, the schedule release is going to be next Thursday, that's when real football guys get excited. Have you heard the new slur that's going around? No, the S slur. The Shieldy.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

It's a lot of college football fans. If you only pay attention to the NFL, they start to call you a Shieldy.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I like.

[Big Cat]

But this is a big time Shieldy holiday. It's a Thursday. But this. Yeah, I don't really, I, I can't get it up for the schedule release because it's, it's. If you explained what the schedule release was to Vince Lombardi, he'd call you a and spit in your face.

[PFT Commenter]

Are we. I, I would. Do you think we're in the majority when we're talking like this? Because I like, I like looking at the bear schedule, but I'm not going to get so excited about schedule release day that I'm like, oh man. Like I have to like when I see it, I'm going to look at it and then I'm going to, I'm going to do like a quick win loss in my head and then I'm going to probably look at it again in August.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean the only thing that you really look at is where the buy is going to be and if you have any international games that Hank is going to watch and prime time and how many primetime games do you have?

[Hank]

Yeah, NFL just tries to make everything prime time. That doesn't like if this got it. If it was one o'. Clock. It's a better just during the day thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, actually they should do it during the day to let everyone have a little thing. Time to fuck off from work.

[Hank]

Because it's not a prime time. Who cares? Waiting all day for the release of a schedule.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So we are taping this in the afternoon, but we have the majority of the schedule. Hank, congratulations. You're opening the season.

[Hank]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

That's Wednesday night, Right? I thought that was gonna be the Bears. I was wrong. I think Kirk actually had it first. He reported it before anyone else. This is. This. This is schedule release reporting season two. Are you nervous about that game against the Seahawks? No.

[Hank]

Excited revenge. Instant revenge.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Actually, I. I like the momentum that you guys have going into the game, too. Because Drake may had the most passing yards ever in the fourth quarter of a Super Bowl.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Exactly.

[Big Cat]

Just ran out of time. So now you're built. Now that momentum is carrying into the first quarter of week one.

[PFT Commenter]

And then we have the Australia game, which we knew about the Rams and the. You're such a piece of. There's so many international games this year, it's crazy. The. The Rams and the Niners playing in Australia.

[Big Cat]

The Australia game is crazy. I just want to say one last time.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And I'll probably say it again. It's crazy that we're asking the 49ers and the Rams to fly all the way to Australia.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree.

[Big Cat]

Play a football game and then fly back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's insane.

[PFT Commenter]

It's nuts. And then.

[Big Cat]

Hank, what are you. You're scoffing again. Why are you.

[Hank]

They're sitting in first class planes 18 hours. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Maybe less than that from the west coast, but it's a long flight.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, Hank, So the rest of

[Hank]

the rest of week one, sitting for a long time, traveling.

[PFT Commenter]

The rest of week one is the Dallas, New York, New York Giants game on Sunday Night Football. Then the Monday projected game is the Chiefs and the Broncos. Should be great. Will Patrick Mahomes be playing? Will it be Justin Fields?

[Big Cat]

I think Patrick Mahomes.

[PFT Commenter]

I do too. Hank, since you love the international schedule so goddamn much, what was your favorite international game that's been released without looking at your phone?

[Hank]

Patriots Alliance.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Where are you guys playing?

[Hank]

Germany.

[PFT Commenter]

Where?

[Big Cat]

Come on, Hank, you got this. I don't. Fuck.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Hamburg. How do you not.

[Big Cat]

Munich. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. There we go.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Great.

[PFT Commenter]

Second best.

[Hank]

Probably the one in Rio de Janeiro, which is Broncos.

[PFT Commenter]

Actually, Brazil.

[Hank]

Brazil.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Oh, no, it's not. It's Ravens. Cowboys.

[Big Cat]

Hank, what was your favorite international game last year?

[Hank]

Oh, good question.

[Big Cat]

You love all of them, so probably

[Hank]

that Colts Daniel Jones game.

[Big Cat]

The Colts Daniel Jones game. The one where Daniel Jones played for the Colts.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And who did he play against?

[Hank]

He just. He played so well, I don't even remember who he beat the team.

[Big Cat]

Did the Colts. Did the Colts have an overseas game last year?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they did. They played the Dolphins. Maybe they played the Falcons. That's the Daniel Jones bloody mouth game. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, exactly.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you excited for the Madrid game, Week nine?

[Big Cat]

Yes, of course.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's playing?

[Ryan Rosillo]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought you would have memorized the international.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Why would I do that?

[Hank]

I listen, I listen. I, I was going to bite my tongue. Not breaking news. You, the, this, the fans of the show. You guys, football is back. You love to say that. It's May 14th. I don't give, like, I, I don't, I'm excited for, I'm excited to look at it. Like you said, I'm not going to think about the schedule for another two months.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. least it's a, it's a look at it for three minutes and then forget about it. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I do like it the way that college football does it, though, where they say, hey, just so you guys know, in, in 2042, we're going to have the University of Washington doing a home and home with Wisconsin. Yeah. Or not Wisconsin. That wouldn't work right now because but with like, Miami and then you now you have, like 15 years to buy the hotel rooms with the NFL, they should do, they should draw it out even longer. It should be one game that, that Roger Goodell releases per day.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

For the entire offseason.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And then at the end of it, he's like, okay, let's play some ball. Let's roll the ball out there. You do have to go through it, though. And then you, you look at your own team schedule and you say, we got screwed. It's always like you're going, every team's going 10 and 10 and 7 or 11 and 6.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

But you have to look through, see where you get screwed. So do you want to go around the room and say where we think our grievances are going to be?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean, I, I, I don't like that the, the Bears have to play Thanksgiving and Christmas Day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Just one or the other would have been fine.

[Big Cat]

Although I'm going to say something nice about Roger Goodell in the NFL. The Thanksgiving Day schedule is awesome. Oh, my God.

[PFT Commenter]

So we have that.

[Big Cat]

It's the best day of football, I think, maybe ever.

[PFT Commenter]

It's Wednesday night is the packers versus the Rams. Then Thursday, Thanksgiving Day is Bears, Lions, Eagles, Cowboys, Chiefs, Bills. And then Friday is Broncos, Steelers. That, that will be great. That will be great. Good job.

[Big Cat]

Like the day of Thanksgiving. Yeah. That's the best day ever.

[PFT Commenter]

That will rock. But yeah, I, I, I, I would have preferred the Bears not to play on both of the holidays. Yeah, One or the other would have been fine. I actually like the Thanksgiving. I like Thanksgiving early game. That's actually a fun game to. To participate in.

[Big Cat]

We're probably gonna be.

[PFT Commenter]

Except for the Eber flu flashbacks.

[Big Cat]

We're probably gonna be deep frying a turkey at that. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Eber flu is two years ago when I sat in my garage for like an hour and a half because I was just like, that was so mad. What are your grievances?

[Big Cat]

My grievances are starting the season off, going back to back on the road divisional games. I don't like that. Going to the Eagles, then going to the the. And then following that. I think actually the commanders have a pretty tough opening four weeks where they go to the Eagles, to the Cowboys, then they have the Seahawks at home, and then they got to go over to London and play the Colts. And we all know how Daniel Jones plays in the overseas game.

[PFT Commenter]

This would be really funny if we got any of this wrong, but we are going off of this guy Ozzy, who seems like I'm rooting for him to have it.

[Ryan Rosillo]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Are you talking about the NFL nerd guy?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, this is NFL nerd right here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy's awesome. I want him.

[Max]

He looks great.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I want to go back. I do want to cross reference his prediction when he did the mock schedule, and I want to see how many of these he got right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Grievances, Hank. Any given looked.

[Ryan Rosillo]

No, I've looked.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Hank]

There was nothing that popped out as like a grievance, though. I mean, the Germany game is awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to play good teams.

[Hank]

We have a buy. Yeah, we got to play good teams. We get the. The jets, which is a nice, like, layup week 16 leading into the Broncos and the Dolphins. So we got like kind of two easy wins and then a tough challenge. Week 17.

[PFT Commenter]

The one nice thing that we have is the. The Eagles Monday night in Chicago and the Patriots Thursday night in Chicago. We can go to those games.

[Hank]

Yeah, that's going to go to those games.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll be attending both those.

[Big Cat]

Are you going to the Thursday night one?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, because we can get back. We. We can get back in 20 minutes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

That was my. That, that was my biggest takeaway from the Eagle schedule is that I was excited that not only can we go to that game, but it's Monday night, so we don't have to record.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

So we can actually enjoy it.

[PFT Commenter]

Enjoy it. Yeah.

[Max]

Have fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Talk about, talk about bruskies with the boys. Yes. Yeah.

[Max]

And I think I'm foreshadowing for later. Later in this show.

[PFT Commenter]

I love Brus with the boys.

[Big Cat]

Going to try to make that road trip to San Francisco in October if it doesn't conflict with NBA opening week and go see Monday Night Football. And that's going to be fun because

[PFT Commenter]

in the big bell bottom.

[Big Cat]

In the big bell bottom. Because I feel like that's when San Francisco is the nicest. Right? October. Well, it's not San Francisco.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Santa Clara.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But that's when it's the nicest out there, right?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I think it's always kind of Wizards.

[Max]

Wizards could have a huge game.

[Big Cat]

That's what I'm saying. If that's opening week of the NBA, I might not. I might not even watch that game.

[Max]

You can't miss a Wizards game.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you guys got in the booth?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Any.

[PFT Commenter]

Any issues? Any, any grievances? Eagles have seven prime time.

[Max]

Seven prime time.

[PFT Commenter]

Bears have six.

[Max]

Yeah, it's way more prime time than not prime time. Game games for the Eagles open, open to a lot of scrutiny.

[Big Cat]

But how does your schedule open?

[PFT Commenter]

That math doesn't check out.

[Big Cat]

I want to see how your schedule opens. What are the first, like, you know,

[Hank]

how many games are in a season?

[PFT Commenter]

17. Hank.

[Max]

I should have said way more prime time than one o' clock starts.

[Big Cat]

Got it, Got it. Okay, that's fair. What are the first, like six games that you guys have?

[Max]

We are.

[PFT Commenter]

I am actually rooting for us to get this all wrong.

[Max]

Home. Home. Home against Commanders. At Titans, at Bears. Home against.

[Hank]

Thing is, people listen to this and not know until the season starts.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Max]

I mean, it's pretty tough start. I mean, at Titans, you. I want to think that that's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

What week of the season do you think you'll be like, fuck Sirianni.

[Max]

Never.

[Big Cat]

That's what I was trying to get at is like, what's the toughest three game stretch that you're looking at?

[Max]

Toughest three game stretch.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably that middle.

[Max]

The, the schedule's not too bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Bears have a schedule actually, and I'm

[Ryan Rosillo]

looking at it right now.

[PFT Commenter]

It's going to be a tough schedule.

[Max]

Maybe at the end of the season we go at Seahawks or home against Seahawks. Home against Texans. At Niners.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Or at Bears. Home against Rams. Lun London against Jags.

[Big Cat]

That's what it could be right there. Like Sirianni might get left on the tarmac.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's not coming home.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Just leave. Your Philly fans are going to be like, Leave this guy in England.

[PFT Commenter]

What about you Memes?

[Big Cat]

Jet schedule.

[PFT Commenter]

It's only like bits and pieces have been released, but it's like one through four is out.

[Big Cat]

Start with Titans and then you go

[Max]

to packers home again. Home against Packers.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Home against Packers.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I said.

[Big Cat]

Packers, Lions, Bears. So it's a mini gauntlet to start the season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And Zach, we have a Sunday night game. Zach, we do have Bears.

[Zach]

A little bit of prime time action going.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Before that Sunday night game, we have double divisional games. So my headspace going into that Sunday night game will be very dependent on how the two divisional games go beforehand.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's an important little stretch there.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

At Carolina versus Atlanta. And then. Wait, is that. Oh, that's Sunday night. So we have to record. We can't go to that game, sir. Okay, that's enough schedules talk, right? We're good.

[Big Cat]

I think we're good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think we're good. We're good.

[Max]

I got nothing else to say.

[Big Cat]

Okay. It's the schedule.

[PFT Commenter]

It's schedule. Schedule happened.

[Max]

You already knew who you were playing and where you were playing.

[PFT Commenter]

I like. I like what Max says that I feel. It feels good when he's had that take. And it's. It's a strong take.

[Big Cat]

Anyone, anytime, anywhere.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Except just not overseas.

[Max]

You're basically just checking to see when you got prime time.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So you're checking this. If you're going. If you are someone who is planning travel, you're planning your travel today. That's like when. Oh, okay, we can go to this one.

[Max]

That. That was what I said. That's the. The only thing I was excited about is we. I can go to the Bears game.

[Big Cat]

We already knew this, but there's games every day of the week except for Tuesdays. And if you look at the Thanksgiving schedule, I don't know if. So we looked at that. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. It's Goodell's masterstroke. Not just with how good the games are, but every single game is on a different network or provider. Every single one is. He checked all. Checked all the boxes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I am going to have to pfd. I am going to have to, like, perfectly time my turkey. At your house.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do you want to start at halftime?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know if it's started halftime or start in like the end of the first quarter and then leave at halftime.

[Big Cat]

So you take it home, but then you're going to. You're going to have to, like, carve it up and eat it right. When you get Home. And then that's going to start at halftime.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'll come over at halftime.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah, that works.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn, that's. I mean, these are the problems.

[Max]

We have Thanksgiving games, you know, it's hard to predict when it goes that far in the season. I'm excited for those. Thanksgiving.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, this would be great.

[Hank]

Didn't that happen with Christmas though, this year?

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Hank]

Everyone's like, oh, my God, greatest Christmas schedule ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

That's what I just said is that it's.

[Hank]

No, I know, I know.

[PFT Commenter]

The only thing you can really like predict of the schedule is like, the international games are going to rock.

[Hank]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I want detailed notes on. Maybe we'll do that this year.

[Big Cat]

Maybe even remember when we do.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe when we do.

[Ryan Rosillo]

What are you talking about?

[Hank]

The bloody mouth.

[Big Cat]

Daniel Jones instantly just said Daniel Jones. Colts.

[Hank]

And did they play a game internationally?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

So was I correct by answering that? Yes, it was the bloody mouth game. Daniel Jones. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Pft. I think we got to pick one game this year.

[Hank]

What if I just go to all of them for the whole season?

[PFT Commenter]

Do they have good golf in Spain?

[Hank]

I'll find out.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. We should pick one game. Pft. Where we agree to not watch the international game and have Hank give us the full recap. Detailed recap. I think maybe Bengals, Falcons.

[Big Cat]

What's the Madrid?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, no. Oh, oh.

[Big Cat]

What's the slate?

[PFT Commenter]

I. There's a couple. I mean, you, you play in London. The Cowboys and Ravens. I want to watch that. The Eagles, Jags. The Texans Jags. Maybe Texans Jags.

[Big Cat]

Texan Jag Sounds pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

Texan Jags.

[Hank]

What if I just go on an 11 week international game trip?

[Big Cat]

It's a lot of time to spend away from your kids.

[Hank]

I can bring them with me.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I think you'd have to mimic how they do it, though. You'd have to fly back immediately after the game so you can see the rigors that the NFL athletes have to handle.

[Hank]

No, because they don't. They. They like the Jaguars stay there.

[PFT Commenter]

You picked one team that stays there.

[Hank]

Everyone else, they're only playing one game.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone else flies back.

[Hank]

I would, I would love to give a detailed presentation on pros and cons of each city. Something about.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

I'll think about every city.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Well, think about it.

[Hank]

11.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm, I'm.

[Hank]

I'm willing to show how much I care about these international games. And I feel like the only way to do real journalism is to go and, and feel it and, and take it in yourselves. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I come back after 11 weeks, and I'm like, you know what?

[Big Cat]

Okay, how about Madrid? Yeah. Vikings, Niners, Mexico City.

[PFT Commenter]

Done. See ya.

[Big Cat]

Have fun.

[Hank]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Australia sounds awesome.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I'll go do to that.

[Big Cat]

But that's a Sunday night, so have to come back, like, right after.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, right after.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Okay.

[Hank]

Yeah. That's not how that works.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. You. The PGA Championship has started. Shout out. Our guy. Big Dom. Incredible voiceover. What?

[Ryan Rosillo]

I.

[Hank]

Incredible.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Before we squashed the beef, I probably would. Said other things, but now that we squashed the beef, it's like, I kind of like, damn.

[Max]

Good thing we squashed the beef.

[Hank]

What a legend, right?

[Max]

He crushed it. 10 out of 10 performance.

[Big Cat]

Would you like to see him do more?

[Hank]

Yes, he should. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's a star.

[PFT Commenter]

PJ Partner.

[Hank]

He's like, his contract negotiations are leaked. Like, he's. He probably has paparazzi, like, following him.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sensing some sarcasm here, Max.

[Max]

Good day from the course. Yeah, it's really a good day from the. These greens are tough.

[Big Cat]

The greens are tough. Bryson had that one hilarious putt that he just, like, touched. But that's bright. He's just so strong. Can he just works out so much.

[PFT Commenter]

Can I say one last thing about Big Dom? Because I did text him congratulating him. I was like, that was a great voiceover. And he said, thanks, Crazy. They kept asking me. I never played golf. Never will.

[Max]

Love that. Love that. That. That's awesome.

[Big Cat]

That is good. I like that a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

Never will.

[Big Cat]

We have a new star, though. We have a new star that we need to talk about on this podcast.

[Max]

That's football guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's a. That's a football guy. Hank wouldn't understand that.

[Zach]

No.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You don't get it. You don't get it.

[PFT Commenter]

Never golf, never will.

[Big Cat]

New star. Garrick Higo. Garrett Higo from South Africa, sir. Yeah, he slept in. Well, not really slept in, but he misses tea time by, like, a minute. And so he's penalized two strokes. He actually shot, I think, a 69 today.

[PFT Commenter]

Right? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So pretty good, all things considered. But then he gave the most hilarious press conference of all time afterwards, and it reminded me a lot of this guy's act that we have here. Like a mix between Zach and Luke. Juan, the way that he was talking about sleep or missing his tea time. Try to follow these. These quotes, because he really makes a lot of sense when you think about it. I was there on time. But the rule is if you're one second late, you're late. So if you think about It. I was there on time, if you know what I mean. What do we mean? What do we mean by that?

[PFT Commenter]

He was there on time.

[Big Cat]

If you think about it, if you know what I mean.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm thinking about it. Sounds like he was there on top.

[Big Cat]

Well, he said the rule is if you're one second late, you're late. I was obviously on time, but late one second is tough to define.

[Hank]

I think when he, like, I think people are like, oh, how do you miss your tea time? Like. Like a normal person where they're just like, are driving up to the course and park and aren't there in time. He was on the grounds. He was there and prepared and ready to golf. He just wasn't in the exact zone. You need to be at the exact time.

[PFT Commenter]

But that's crazy.

[Hank]

I know, but that's what I. That's how I interpret what he's saying.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that is crazy. I was there that he was there, but he wasn't.

[Big Cat]

Well, he was obviously on time.

[Max]

He'd be tied for the lead right now if this didn't happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach thoughts?

[Zach]

These things do happen. It sounds like he was actually just there.

[Hank]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Cat]

With the zone. Yeah, what he said. One second is tough to.

[Zach]

Is there like a, like chalk lines or they, like, is it just like the physical hole you have to be at?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, we should. We should make a zone for Zach.

[Zach]

I'm curious about the zone.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, zone by his desk.

[Big Cat]

Is it like he has to check in two feet in the zone? Punch the clock.

[Zach]

There may be checkpoints throughout the way. Like, hey, I'm this guy. Keep going. A little more in the cart. I'm this guy.

[Big Cat]

Is he tagged? When is it geofence? He, like, enters the area and they get a notification. Like, next golfer has entered the tee box.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think when he hits a checkpoint, he get like, he's established that checkpoint. So, like, he. He can't go back to the start.

[Zach]

You can go back there to. For like, safe save.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Tiger struggles with checkpoints.

[PFT Commenter]

Tiger's back. Yeah, he's very back in America.

[Big Cat]

Can you define one second? Zach?

[Zach]

Partial makes up a minute. So it's like, you know, building blocks of a minute.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the building blocks.

[PFT Commenter]

Building blocks of a minute.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I mean, can you define time?

[Big Cat]

Pft. No.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Hank]

Like, who's to say what's on time and what's not?

[PFT Commenter]

Time is life.

[Big Cat]

It's relative. Like, literally. Like, ask Einstein. He'd be like, well, one second on earth is somebody could be in a spaceship. It's like 500 light years away. And they blink their eyes, they come back to Earth. Everybody's dead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So think about it that way.

[Hank]

Every second on one planet is a year on other planets.

[PFT Commenter]

I think every second interstellar.

[Big Cat]

I think every second here is a gift. When you're around Hank, agree facts.

[PFT Commenter]

Being with you, time doesn't exist.

[Hank]

Yeah, there you go.

[Big Cat]

First of all, I love this guy's name. Garrick. Garrick Higo. It sounds completely made up. And then just him refusing to take any accountability afterwards was awesome. So shout out Garrett Higgo.

[PFT Commenter]

We're rooting for him. Yeah, Rory was bad. Blister, blister, blisters. Got him.

[Hank]

Mr. Blister.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Brooks.

[Big Cat]

Good start. So Brooks, he. Yes, partially good start.

[PFT Commenter]

No, great start. Minus one. Yeah, great start. But minus one after. After the first day is not. He's like, not dead or anything.

[Hank]

Best te to green in the field.

[Big Cat]

That's what I'm saying. Like, his putting. His putting was terrible. Okay. And so he said, I feel good. Every round just seems to be the worst I can shoot. The putter is absolutely horrendous. Ball striking is absolutely phenomenal. That's been the story of the year. New putter. He's just got to figure out the putter. Once he figures out the putter, then I feel like unstoppable.

[Hank]

He was 172nd. If he could just be 72nd.

[PFT Commenter]

Rolling, winning.

[Big Cat]

Do you have any tips for him?

[Hank]

Just, you know, put the ball in the hole. Confidence.

[PFT Commenter]

Get the ball in the hole. You see Blocky.

[Zach]

Stud.

[Big Cat]

Legend.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, stud.

[Big Cat]

You see that putt that he made? Then he pretended to have a heart attack? Yeah. That's his classic.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Blocky.

[PFT Commenter]

He should do the hamstring. Justin Jefferson.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. When you. When you get a ticket for a blocky round, it's not just golf. You also get an improv performance.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, man. Blocky. I mean, he. He knows how to get the people going.

[Big Cat]

Whose drive is it anyway?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Blocky.

[PFT Commenter]

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[PFT Commenter]

details or racing.draftkings.com the Cavs James Harden Big game James Are we max are we currently rewriting the narrative on James Harden?

[Max]

I I have I am bad at at writing narratives.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay rewriting though you batting writing them. But are you better at rewriting them?

[Max]

I'm bad at all of them. I. I am dumb. So probably. What if I say yes, that means no? If I say no, that means yes.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll root for James.

[Max]

I have no problem rooting for James Harden. I'll say no. I'll say no.

[Zach]

He.

[Max]

He stinks and he's not Big game James.

[PFT Commenter]

What if James Harden just like. What if he just does it? What if he does it all?

[Big Cat]

It's perfect. I think that, I think that right now where we're at with James Harden is the exact spot that we need to be in for him to have another all time big game James game?

[PFT Commenter]

I would say so.

[Big Cat]

And so they.

[Max]

He.

[Big Cat]

He played pretty well last night. We'll get into a little bit with Rosillo down the stretch. I actually, I don't think he was as good as. As the box scorer will tell you that he was. If that's all that you saw. The end of that game was absolutely insane. The Pistons kind of giving it away. And then the Pistons at the very end, you could have made the argument that there was a foul at the very, very end of the game which could have had the Pistons win in regulation if they went to the foul line.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

But then you had Mr. Brothers getting on, on the mic, getting a lot of screen time. That was good for America, I think. And Max Shoes Dog Max Truce. Also Charles Barkley wants to Max Ruse. I don't know if you saw the, the post game with Sir Charles, but he was just like Max Schrouss. That's a good looking man. Yeah, that's a very, very good looking man.

[PFT Commenter]

And he's right, he scored. He was six or eight from three. He was rebounding that, that, that play sequence when he just stole the ball from Cade Cunningham after the inbounds. Like the Cavs. The Pistons did have that game and the Cavs just wanted it. Like they just fought harder at the end. And then overtime it just felt like they had the wave of momentum and it took him there. And the Pistons again, like especially with Duncan Robinson out, they just don't have any scoring.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was scoring. That was tough. So he had is it back issues. Yeah, not good.

[PFT Commenter]

They just don't have anyone scoring. Jenkins was like a good change of pace going to the rack and stuff. But still it's just like Kate Cunningham has to do it all. They just feel like a very flawed team. The Cavs, I, I don't really know what to, to make of them other than I. They have enough guys that are. They have guys that can actually like if they Need a big bucket. James Harden, Donovan Mitchell, Max Drew, Evan Mobley. Like, they have guys who can do it.

[Big Cat]

So I. I said that I like the Cavs. Memes told me that it was impossible for them to win on the road, but this is. Oh, it is their first win of the postseason on the road, but I was told that it was strictly impossible for them to do that. Memes,

[PFT Commenter]

every reverse jinx I'm using has worked. Oh, yeah. You're welcome, Cleveland. I did that. Why?

[Ryan Rosillo]

I just want the Cavaliers to win.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you want to play the Cavs?

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, but wouldn't you have rather the Pistons won last night, and then the Cavs win at home, and then it goes seven, so you get even more time off? Yeah, no, I want to see the next play.

[Hank]

Cavs can still win in seven.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, I know, but that.

[Big Cat]

It's more like they do win at home.

[PFT Commenter]

They haven't lost at home. Right? They haven't.

[Big Cat]

They haven't.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want to. You want to say I don't know how to. I don't know how to reverse Jenks.

[Big Cat]

So the series finally started because the road team won a game.

[PFT Commenter]

The playoffs finally started for the Cavs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Playoffs officially in.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So now from this point on, now we start judging James Harden.

[Max]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Based on his playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

That's fair.

[Big Cat]

Appearances. Memes, I. I love. And Zach, too, I love how confident Knicks fans are. To be fair, you guys have every right to be confident because you've looked awesome, and these two teams don't look like they could beat you. But it. It. Does it scare you how confident you are and how. How certain you are that the Knicks are going to win in the Eastern Conference finals. It does. I mean, these. These teams are both talented. I'd rather play the Cavaliers because we.

[PFT Commenter]

We get to it with Rosillo. The pistons have, like, a plus 89

[Ryan Rosillo]

point differential against the Knicks this season.

[Big Cat]

Okay. That's why I would rather play the

[PFT Commenter]

Cavs, but also the minutes played between the two teams.

[Big Cat]

That's why I'm not really that scared. Zach, how confident are you?

[Zach]

I feel good about it, but it is, you know, one game at a time. You won't get too far ahead of yourself. Anything can happen. But from what I'm seeing, the guys feel good. So if they feel good, I feel good.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Did you feel good?

[Zach]

I think I would like to play casual, though, to pee back on that. I would like to play the Cavs Friday night.

[PFT Commenter]

We're going to find out if we. We're going on to the conference finals because we got both games Friday night. Weird off night tonight, by the way. The. The Aves Wild game was incredible.

[Big Cat]

I mean, tough. Tough for Minnesota fans.

[Hank]

Minnesota.

[Big Cat]

Brutal Minnesota fans in a. In a couple decades of tough playoff losses for Minnesota sports fans. That is right up there with any one of them.

[PFT Commenter]

And Biz is literally dancing on their grave.

[Big Cat]

He's so happy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. His head is spinning.

[Big Cat]

He hates Minnesota.

[PFT Commenter]

McKinnon was incredible. I mean, he was incredible all series. He's been incredible all playoffs. He scored in six straight games, and that goal he scored at the end of the game was unbelievable like that. It was basically like the Wild had it, and they just. They let. They let go the rope.

[Big Cat]

Pretty much the same shot that he had in the Olympics, except there was a goalie that was in the way this time, and he made this one. And then after the. After the game, he was also mad at Biz, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he.

[Big Cat]

Because Biz put on the snorkel.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he was like, hey, that's not very funny. I'm not answering any of your questions, Mr. Biz.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm a mermaid. Let me. Leave me alone.

[Big Cat]

I was playing. Yeah, I was playing snorkels.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I'll contend. I think that might be the best. The best way to win a game both in a series and, like, the way that the ABS did it by coming back and winning in overtime. But to win a game in five in a series. In five and not have to go back on the road has to be the greatest feeling ever.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it feels. Especially on a weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Like game seven. Like winning a game seven. Obviously. Awesome, but it's probably an emotional exhaustion. The Cavs or the ABS Basically canceled plants.

[Big Cat]

Do we want to.

[PFT Commenter]

They got to cancel all their plans this weekend.

[Big Cat]

Do you want to say it? Congratulations to the Colorado Avalanche on winning the Stanley cup.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, Nathan McKinnon right now is plus 200 to win the cons fight.

[Big Cat]

I'd like to say congratulations to the

[PFT Commenter]

ABs it's a pretty good bet if you're. If you're a betting man, which I am. Yeah. Congrats to the A.B.S.

[Big Cat]

you did it.

[PFT Commenter]

Choose your own adventure. Who do you. Who won the Sabers game saves Sabes?

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the Ducks won second game.

[Big Cat]

I think the Sabres won, too.

[Max]

I think the Golden Knights won.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, so that series is over.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good recap.

[Max]

And the sabs?

[PFT Commenter]

The SABS one.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Maxi hawk. Maxi pucks.

[Max]

I wonder how I. I wonder how he did on my predictions in the first round.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably great probably awesome.

[Big Cat]

Probably pretty good. You know Puck.

[PFT Commenter]

You do know Puck. You know Puck. Big time.

[Big Cat]

Fly it up.

[Max]

I have watched less.

[Big Cat]

Less hockey recently because the Flyers are no longer in it.

[PFT Commenter]

You're no longer. Fly it up.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

And I also want to, like, once I. Once. It looked like they had no shot of beating the Hurricanes, I. I got less chest fired up.

[Big Cat]

It is true that. That when you don't have a team that's in the Stanley cup playoffs, you watch all the games, and then when you do have a team in and they lose, you just. You say, fuck hockey for a few days. It's like, I can't even look at ice. I don't. I don't want to feel cold.

[Max]

I'm not even gonna say. I'm not really gonna say that. I think I just kind of. The NBA started to heat up a little bit, so I kind of remembered basketball exists.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I had a stupid idea this is about horse racing, but I feel like it's a stupid idea that's worth saying out loud so other people can tell me how dumb it is.

[PFT Commenter]

We. By the way, we will have Randy Moss on back for the Belmont when Golden Tempo races again. I talked to him. He was like, yeah, he'll be. He'll be back. He was. Our schedules were kind of up this week, so we missed him, but he'll be back for Belmont.

[Big Cat]

So this isn't. You know how we used to do drunk ideas on the show?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Not a drunk idea. This is a sleepy idea. So, like, I woke up in the middle of the night and I had to pee, and then when I went back to bed, I thought about this idea. So just sleepy idea. Why doesn't the Preakness. Because they're getting. And they've been in the years. In the years past when the Kentucky Derby winner does not race in their race.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

Why doesn't the Preakness just say screw it to the Kentucky Derby and scheduled their main race for, like, three weeks before the Kentucky Derby? You want to play hardball, and then

[PFT Commenter]

the Kentucky Derby goes three weeks before

[Big Cat]

that until it gets too cold, until

[PFT Commenter]

they come all the way back around the schedule.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, you want to play hardball?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You could play hardball.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Let's play some hardball. It sucks. I hate it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just. It's so shitty. The. The Triple Crown. I like rooting for the Triple Crown. It's like a. It's a fun thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's just ruined.

[Big Cat]

I Feel like if you, if your horse wins the Preakness, if it was scheduled for before the Derby. You're not skipping the derby. No. You got to run in the Derby.

[PFT Commenter]

Got to do the Derby. Hank, do you have anything to say about the big trade? Oh, you don't know about the big trade?

[Big Cat]

Oh, breaking moves.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh my God. Hey, how do you not know about the big trade? This guy pretends that he's, he's, he's paying attention to.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Mr. Boston, why don't you, why

[PFT Commenter]

don't you guess what the big trade is? Breaking moves. Well, guess what the big trade is.

[Max]

That was a clean mill that shouldn't have gone unnoticed.

[Big Cat]

Two, two.

[PFT Commenter]

Get. Guess it.

[Hank]

I don't know. New England revolution. Like.

[PFT Commenter]

No, bigger. Yeah, bigger.

[Hank]

The Boston Common Golf.

[PFT Commenter]

No, bigger.

[Hank]

The.

[Max]

It's got to be live, right?

[PFT Commenter]

No, bigger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, way bigger.

[PFT Commenter]

The big trade we're talking about here is.

[Hank]

Oh, the, the gorillas.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we've had a gorilla trade. Have you guys all seen the gorilla trade? The Boston Zoo, the Franklin Park Zoo and the Pittsburgh Zoo have swapped gorillas. So gorillas. The gorillas. Frankie. Pittsburgh 7 year old male western lowland gorilla will be heading to Boston. In an exchange, Boston will send 33 year old little Joe the silverback to Pittsburgh.

[Hank]

I think Little Joe escaped one time.

[PFT Commenter]

Did he?

[Hank]

Yeah, I gotta look that up. This actually might be a tall tale.

[PFT Commenter]

I think this might be a good. I was reading more about this, which is probably pathetic, but I think it's. I think, I think Boston got fleece.

[Max]

No.

[Big Cat]

He did. No, no. Boston. Boston fleece. Pittsburgh. Easy. Boston got younger.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no. Pfd. So I was reading about it. Frankie got traded. Seven year old Frankie got traded to the Boston Zoo. He's going to just be chilling with a bunch of other dudes. Little Joe got traded to Pittsburgh because he's going to be mating and making new gorillas.

[Big Cat]

So that's great for Little Joe, like, because if I'm Little Joe, I. I want to get out of that locker room. I want to get to a place where my talents will be used.

[PFT Commenter]

But, But Pittsburgh is, is thinking about the future of the franchise.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So like, I see from Little Joe's perspective, he probably forced this trade. Like Little Joe probably demanded a trade so he could go somewhere and start to again. Now he's, he's in Pittsburgh and that suits his skill set.

[PFT Commenter]

But Boston got fleece. Boston should have traded for a female gorilla to, to. To make more gorillas. Instead, Pittsburgh's the one that's going to be making more gorillas.

[Big Cat]

But are we sure that Frankie is a boy?

[PFT Commenter]

Frankie's a boy. And Frankie's just hang. It literally said they're like he's gonna go hang with some other dudes.

[Big Cat]

Okay, well so Frankie's seven years old. So Frankie is an upside pick. They're getting younger.

[PFT Commenter]

No, Frankie can fuck.

[Big Cat]

He's a nice piece.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think, I don't think they said that Frankie's just going literally like he's going on a bachelor party. That's what I read.

[Big Cat]

I think they're, they're taking a 33 year old, getting him out of town, hoping that Frankie will step up.

[PFT Commenter]

For what though he's hanging. All he's doing is on a boys trip sometimes. But because you're gonna try to make new gorillas, Little Joe's going he's gonna

[Big Cat]

make some new ones sometimes in the NBA if you have.

[Hank]

So you don't have to build from within the farm system.

[PFT Commenter]

You're in a win now mode. Pittsburgh's in a, in a long term. They're building for a decade of dominance.

[Hank]

What are you talking about?

[PFT Commenter]

He's old, but he's gonna make new gorillas.

[Big Cat]

But maybe those gorillas won't be a

[Hank]

gorilla's life expectancy long.

[PFT Commenter]

No, seriously long. Unless you're Cincinnati gorilla and then you get shot. Killed.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You know this is a credit to Boston, great sports town. In 2003, Little Joe escaped and attacked a girl and it's, it's babysitter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So you're getting rid of a locker

[Hank]

room and they didn't kill it.

[PFT Commenter]

Didn't kill it.

[Hank]

They just subdued it. As you should.

[PFT Commenter]

Life sense often extends into their 50s. So Little Joe's got another like 10 years of.

[Big Cat]

I just, I, I like this move for Boston. I think that the gm. Who's the GM of your zoo. Danny Inch, Denny H. Did it again. Like when, when the Boston Zoo calls, don't pick up the phone because you're about to get fleeced.

[PFT Commenter]

See, I see it the other way. I think Pittsburgh has got a nice. They're really setting themselves up for the future because. Because Little Joe's going to be making some new baby gorillas.

[Big Cat]

I think that a seven year old western lowland gorilla, if all goes according to play, if you have a good structure and a good, good training process around them, that gorilla is going to become the silverback. And then that gorilla in charge of repopulating, nobody can until they do.

[PFT Commenter]

Frankie, who gets high praise from his keepers for good vibes joined a recently formed bachelor group with two other male gorillas. Pittsburgh Zoo explains that as young male gorillas mature, they reach a point where their too old to be juveniles but too young to be silverbacks. Usually they band together with other black backs. These bachelor groups allow non breeding males to live social lives. These guys. Yeah. Yeah. His ultimate guys boys trip. Yeah, they're basically haven't found themselves yet.

[Big Cat]

It's like Little Joe, it's like when we brought. This is like us bringing Jerry o' Connell into the fold. Like Frankie's gonna show up and be like, I never want to leave you guys. You guys just get to hang out all the time.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So Little Joe's showing up to Pittsburgh. There's two females he's about to bang and there's two young. There's two young baby gorillas. The, the move comes after Ivan died. So the, the, so the father died and Harry died. So two dads died. Now Little Joe's going, he's doing a gang bang.

[Big Cat]

So Little Joe is. But he's also going to be the stepdad.

[PFT Commenter]

No, the dad stepped up dad that

[Big Cat]

stepped up twice ideally.

[PFT Commenter]

Twice ideally.

[Big Cat]

And we don't know because Little Joe sounds like he's got some, you know, wild hairs in him. He's. He's had some issues, some, some character concerns and distraction issues.

[PFT Commenter]

They say that he's actually kind of chilled out though.

[Big Cat]

Well, that's it. I hope so because I don't know if they've got a locker room like they do.

[PFT Commenter]

Intelligent and gentle. I know Little Joe's got it.

[Zach]

He's.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean he's get, he's gonna get to do two chicks at the same time. Whereas Frankie's just going to play beer die.

[Hank]

But is beardy and Franklin park sounds fantastic.

[Big Cat]

Is Little Joe like, does he, is he a five tool player like that he's going to show up, be the stepdad and also.

[PFT Commenter]

I think so. I think he's got it all.

[Hank]

Walking into a ready made family, baby mama drama.

[Big Cat]

It is a lot of pressure. It's like, yeah, if you don't, you don't win now. It sounds like Pittsburgh's in win now mode.

[Hank]

You know it never has drama when you drink beer.

[PFT Commenter]

No, Pittsburgh's not winning now mode. They're gonna make new ones. They're in the long, long haul.

[Big Cat]

They're gonna make this guy, this guy's got to be a stepdad. He's got to be a father.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got to be, as you see, wrong. They're making a gorilla factory in Pittsburgh.

[Hank]

I'm.

[Big Cat]

All I'm saying is if you. If you got a great veteran presence in your locker room, you don't get rid of them.

[Ryan Rosillo]

And if you have.

[PFT Commenter]

They didn't. They both died.

[Hank]

If you have two gorillas, you don't have one.

[Big Cat]

No, I'm saying that Boston got rid of Little Joe. Like, if. If. If he was a great gorilla, they would hang on to him. You don't let a griller like that walk in free agency or in a trade situation.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. Upside for. For Frankie, I guess.

[Ryan Rosillo]

But I.

[Big Cat]

This tells.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd rather have more gorillas.

[Big Cat]

It tells me that. That Pittsburgh's farm system.

[Hank]

Should we get one for this completed?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we should. Memes, can you take care of a gorilla?

[PFT Commenter]

Did you guys see that? There's a bait. There's a baby rhino at Lincoln Park Zoo. So cute. Saw him in person on Sunday. So cute. He's, like 2 months old. Go check him out.

[Big Cat]

What's his name?

[PFT Commenter]

I actually don't know his name. He's, like £100. What's his name?

[Big Cat]

He was.

[PFT Commenter]

It was. I wanted to just pick him up and smooch him. Hazina.

[Big Cat]

He is pretty cute.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Isn't that. That's a cute little baby rhino right there, you know, Tell me that's not. Tell me you wouldn't want to take that baby rhino home, Hank. Tell me, tell me, tell me. You're not gonna tell me, are you? Look at that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's adorable.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's not that adorable.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

He doesn't even have his nose horn yet.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, that's a cute baby rhino.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's adorable.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's the. Adam Shefter for zoos?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there's.

[PFT Commenter]

I want more zoo trades.

[Max]

Megan Swift is the one who broke this dude.

[PFT Commenter]

It's so funny. I want, like, future draft picks, like, everything. How does it even work? We should probably get a zoo guy on. Yeah, we should get. We should do it. We should do a PMT trip to the zoo.

[Big Cat]

I'm down. I'm down. And, yeah, underneath, I want Megan Swift's replies to be like, no. Yeah. Fleeced. Or, like, announce a giraffe to the San Diego Zoo.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Fire the GM for the. For the Pittsburgh Zoo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like, Philadelphia does it. Howie.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. How's it gonna fit in the offense?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Max]

Philadelphia's got a good zoo.

[Big Cat]

Do they?

[Max]

I don't. It's a zoo.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like it's like the San Diego Zoo and then everyone else.

[Big Cat]

San Diego's pretty good.

[Hank]

I've been to the San Diego Zoos.

[Max]

Awesome time. He's elite, really fun.

[Big Cat]

Kansas City, surprisingly good zoo.

[PFT Commenter]

I've been getting. I've been on a hot streak.

[Hank]

I like the Lincoln Parks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I've been in a hot streak. I. I've been frankly park one. I take my kids to the Lincoln Park Zoo a bunch and I've been a hot streak. I've been seeing all the animals. They've all been out.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Polar bears the other day, that time of year.

[PFT Commenter]

So the giraffes, the muskrats, everything.

[Big Cat]

I like the. The. There's a snapping turtle up there. Yep. That snapping turtle rocks. Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Some awesome animals. Okay. Anything else? Any other news? Any other sports or. Oh, I had a quote that I wanted to read you guys. It's actually the first time that I have lost confidence in this team. The quote goes, I'm not thinking about how I could have ate more. I'm thinking about how I could win eight more. Do you know who said that quote?

[Max]

I know this.

[Big Cat]

Joey Chestnut.

[Ryan Rosillo]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Nice guess, though.

[Max]

That was S.G. can I. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

SGA.

[Big Cat]

SGA said that. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not thinking about how I could have ate more.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm thinking about how I could win eight more.

[Big Cat]

That's hard.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Come on.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's a. That's a great quote.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a. I don't know about that. It made me nervous. It made me nervous.

[Big Cat]

If he's got that much time to like, think of quotes like that.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like he's. He's up to something.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay. Anything else? The new. Congrats. Pft. The Jaden Daniels on the quarterback three season.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited kind of for that. To see what gets put in. I'm pretty sure with that series, it's like everybody involved had to sign off on everything. So I guess it'll be interest. Actually, no, I'm not interested in it

[PFT Commenter]

because you're reliving a bad.

[Big Cat]

It's a bad season. It's a really bad year. And it's just going to be him rehabbing from like a million different injuries.

[PFT Commenter]

It's actually. It's Cam Ward, Baker Mayfield, who got injured for half the season, Joe Flacco and Jaden Daniels. Joe Flacco is the only one that's going to be somewhat happy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Joe Flair. I think Baker will be okay because they started off really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. But he got hurt.

[Big Cat]

So, like, the first few episodes will be great for the Bucks. I'm. There's really nothing about last season. You know what I watched the one that has the Chargers game. That game was awesome. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, let's get to our good friend

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest. There's our good friend Ryan Rosillo in studio. Perfect timing for you, Ryan, to be here. He's here for the NBA combine. Everyone go listen to the Ryan Ro podcast. He's got a bunch of people, players, executives from the combine. But perfect timing for you to be here because we're taping this on Thursday morning. There are no games Thursday night, which is the first break we've had in NBA playoffs. And I think since the start. And is big game James back?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, I kind of wasn't like ready to start with this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, but we have to. Cause James Harden. Here's, here's what I'd say in defensive.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Isn't James Shields big game?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, he was, we were joking the other day that like everyone who's gotten big game James has never been big in a big game.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, look, he's been really good since that fourth quarter of game three. You know, he, he put together like a really good stretch of like nine straight points in that one, which they desperately needed. His entire game four was really good last night. I don't know that I, I thought the entire game was great. Like his entry passes in the first half, like, that's my issue with him. It's like, hey, man, there's like a playoff intensity and pace, which I think is always like the biggest disconnect beyond all the other things that we want to talk about with his significant playoff drop off. But last night with Mitchell not playing well, all the points off of turnovers, which again, he was, he was guilty of. But look, I just have a super hard time with the way he's officiated. And I thought Detroit, Detroit's a mess offensively, as we saw. But yeah, I don't care. Like, I'm not doing it. I'm not, I'm not giving it to you today after five.

[PFT Commenter]

You should be happy actually that he won, that he's been playing like this because it just sets up for him to be in a game six or seven that he's going to fail.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I mean, look, it gets so bad with him that I'm like, well, I expect there's going to be some kind of 30 point game. Yeah, I mean, he's got the ball in his hands the entire time. He's a terrific shooter. He's a great passer. I mean, he had some dimes in game four, but you Know even I couldn't help but like at the end when he needed the free throws, it's like he missed two of the last four because it's like that tells me there's just something about him that's got his own rebound though he did because

[Big Cat]

Cunningham didn't box him out.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Because you know what he was thinking? He's like, there's no way James is going to try for an offensive rebound and honestly just bounce right back to him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

And then he misses another free throw. But he, look, he was really big for them because the Mitchell part of it just wasn't happening until Mitchell hits that three in the right corner. But I thought the officiating last night was terrible. I normally don't say that after a game. I mean at one point I think it was like 17 fouls on Detroit and nine on Cleveland. But Cleveland deserves to lose on top of everything else. Like they can't figure out anything once Cade gets double and Duran is killing them. Like think about this. Reed is their third string center. I don't think he'd played any minutes.

[PFT Commenter]

B ball. Paul.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, sorry. And then he plays all the fourth quarter and then all of overtime. So you're going into your 61 team who's a one seed and you're going into overtime playing your third string center because you're all NBA center, which I don't know if I'll make third team all NBA. I voted for him. Can't do anything in this series.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I actually thought that James Harden, if you look at the stat line, 30 points, it was impressive. Stat line, they needed it.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Look, he deserves credit. I'm just not going to sit here and be like, hey, he's, I mean some of this stuff gets ridiculous.

[Big Cat]

Well, at the end of the game he, he tried to give it away, not, not to say anything about the free throws, the, the missed layup. And then he did the foul baiting thing. Bring the ball up the court, slammed on the brakes trying to draw a foul, ended up just falling on his ass and then doing like a soccer throw in over the half court line, turn the ball over. Like he made his share of, of really stupid plays. But I agree with Big Cat that this is actually, it's, it's a perfect setup because now we've reached the point where we're like, I think James Harden has finally figured it out in the playoffs and we forget that we've said that probably nine times before.

[PFT Commenter]

You're getting, you're getting the best set. Like James Harden Playing in a game seven is exactly what you want.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This is it. This is it. And. And you know what? Even if he's. Sometimes somehow it comes through, I'm sure he'll figure out a way to get to game seven against the Knicks.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then. And then we'll get to judge him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Whatever is going to, like, even when it's going bad, as bad as it was, like, I think in the first two games, if he's not James Harden, you bench him for Dennis Schroeder.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You would just go, hey, we need somebody with a little bit more energy and more intensity who's, like, a little bit more alive here. Because it's just. I mean, there were stretches in game one and two where I'm like, I cannot believe. This is like, it's not the makes or the misses. It's not when he doesn't want to shoot, you know, because there's. That when it happens, there's just the floating of like, what are you. Where are you going?

[PFT Commenter]

It kind of rocks, though. It's like. It's actually great in pickup. It's actually when you kind of fall. I think what happens to him is when you. You know, when you go on a long drive and you. And you just forget that you were driving. You know, you get there and you're like, oh, I've been driving for three hours. I think that happens to him when he starts dribbling sometimes where he's just dribbling and he forgets. He forgets that he's dribbling, and he forgets that he's in a playoff game, and then he just keeps dribbling until he turns it over, and he's like, oh, I forgot I'm playing a game right now.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I. I get so mad at the officials just because of. Not, like, even the specific team last night, because, you know, this deep into the playoffs, these are the best officials. And whenever I'm prepping for the draft and I'm watching all these college games, I'm reminded of, like, thank God for NBA officials. And I think, to be fair to them, think of the times where you're at home and you're like, I can't believe they called that. And then you see the replay, like, how often they're actually right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

With the call where you're like, oh, that guy reached in, like, that was stupid. But the two hardened. Well, there's. There's probably like more than four, but I'm not going to take the full hour doing that.

[Big Cat]

You. You still Owe me a cut up a highlight reel of all the James cues. You said that that would be on my desk, Ryan, and it wasn't there. I was going to break it down.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, but you caught me, like, you asked for it, I think, on like a three game day. And then I had to go back and like, look at my time stamp notes.

[PFT Commenter]

But you offered it.

[Big Cat]

I, I didn't. I didn't.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. That night we're in the car and

[Big Cat]

we're leaving the, the live show that we did. And it's not like I was like, hey, Ryan, can you make me a mashup of James Harden's worst plays? Ryan, you said, I'm gonna send you a highlight reel of everything that James Harden has done for the last two games and it's going to blow your mind. And I was like, I can't wait to see that. And you're like, it'll be on your desk. And then our listeners, they expect me to dive deep.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I've had people come after me for it. I was walking around town and I was like, oh, here we go again. They want fame. You're paying a fame tax. And it wasn't that at all. It was like, where's PFT's hardened clip?

[Big Cat]

I need my, my, my breakdown. I do think that the way this is shaping up, if you, if you've talked to a Knicks fan, they're dangerously confident. Like, they should be confident.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Because if you go back to the regular season games and, you know, you try to like, figure out, okay, what really matters, and then you look at the lineup stuff like, it's going to come up with San Antonio and okc and you're like, okay, it's four of the five went San Antonio's way, but OKC completely punted. I think they were like, took out their top 10 guys in that fifth game, which I'm just so tired of, like, that gamesmanship stuff. Like Detroit did it to okc and it's like, like, this is a number one seed versus number one seed regular season game. Like, this game is supposed to be the headliner. Like, NBC had a stretch where I think like three straight big time headliner games. One of the coaches was like, hey, don't be great. Let's just fuck with the other team and not play anybody tonight. So having said all that, it was hard to watch Detroit New York and not feel like, hey, Detroit's physicality and their defense messes up New York in a way that feels very real. And so if you're a Knicks fan, and then watching last night going, like, I hope Cleveland wins this based on what you saw in the regular season. And that just kind of speaks to, like, how weird this Eastern Conference is in general. Such a weird conference.

[PFT Commenter]

I know. And it does feel like it's also the conference of teams that were like, the Pistons are a try hard team. And I don't say that in a bad way.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You're totally right.

[PFT Commenter]

But they're the try hard team of the regular season. Celtics were kind of the same way, where their bench was deep. And, like, I don't care about benches in the playoffs. And so the Knicks have the most talent, so it shouldn't be a. A shock, right? Like, they have the.

[Big Cat]

The.

[PFT Commenter]

The best starting five.

[Ryan Rosillo]

They do. But then you can dig into, like, some of the net rating stuff. That was crazy because Minnesota's five guys, when they were healthy, those five guys played more minutes than anybody else. All right. It was like 200 more minutes than the Knicks lineup of the five guys. So you think of like, okay, that's the most played lineup. New York's five guys, the second most played lineup of any team in the league this year. And Minnesota had an incredible net rating. You know, even Atlanta, once they got the McCollum in there, like, that was a crazy net rating. And then you're looking at the Knicks, you're like, why is it only plus two on the season?

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Like, that's like, there's all sorts of lineups that have these incredible, like, plus 13, plus 17. Five guys that teams will tell you, like, hey, if we get those five guys in there in a series, like, we're a different team. Like, don't worry about our depth. And with New York, I'm like, man, why isn't that number better? Like, what does that tell us about this group? And then the way OG Was playing before the hamstring injury, I was like, you know, I liked him. I was just falling in love with him because he was making every single shot, right? And he's so versatile defensively. So then you start going like, all right, you know, am I actually, like, collectively unimpressed with everyone in the East? But to the point where you go, every one of these fan bases should think they have a chance. You know, obviously Philly being eliminated now, but maybe that spoke to them, going like, hey, Boston was that messed up that you guys look that good. Then New York reminded you that you actually still aren't that good. So I don't blame any Knicks fan for having confidence through the roof and then feeling Even better that Cleveland's up 3 2. Because Detroit's offense to get these next two, like, just let me just throw this at you. A number one seed with 60 wins that if Franz doesn't get hurt, loses in the first round.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Okay. And they still don't know who their closing five is, whether it's they want to go a saar and give up the offense or if they want to give up the defense and go with Dannis. Duncan was hurt last night with the injury, but Duran is. Is your guy. And then you're like, we're going to play B ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

He can't play like that. Speaks to them. Going, like, looking down the bench going, is there any combo we can have right now? And as much as we all love Reed, like he's driving into devias Harris and then Jared Allen's there to help, or he's driving into Allen and if Sars playing, then Mobley now is on a SAR almost all the time. It was hard in the beginning of the season or the series, and now Mobley's like, this is awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to do anything.

[Ryan Rosillo]

And even if you're boxing out Allen, if you're during. You're boxing out Allen and you guys are fighting, then Mobley used just to walk over and grab the rebound. So Cleveland's talents better. Like this series, I. I really think Cleveland should have won pretty convincingly because of this offensive flaw that Detroit has had all season long.

[Big Cat]

Also, Max Strews. Max Russ is awesome.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Last night also, I would have ripping Cade on that.

[Hank]

That huge.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that was like.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's an awful.

[PFT Commenter]

I love Cade.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I think we all like Cade better, but the turnovers with Cade, they. He's got to clean it up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The one thing I'll say about the Pistons, because it has been tough to watch the entire playoffs is that I do think Cade is a, you know, generational guy. He's gonna be a. Yeah, he. He has the makings of a superstar. You just gotta build like you've. You've. You've stamped that part. The hard part's done in that Kate is the guy. You just have to build around him. You have to. You have to find the combination, and that's really just. You have to find guys who can. Who can score.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. Look, I give Ceruti credit because we were talking about game five. We were just hanging out during the tapings yesterday. He's like, you know, this is what Jaden Ivey was supposed to be. This off ball on Ball guy. Like, when you think about him in college and especially, like NBA front offices before the draft, you're like, man, if you watched his international stuff and like, when he was playing with those guys, like, he's just so dynamic. And you can in theory have him play off the ball. Like, if you're doubling Cade and you had this really good version of Jaden Ivy, that's exactly what they need. They need somebody who's off the ball that can create. And Dennis is an incredible story, but he's probably a backup. Amy's gonna play a long time, which surprises people, but it's like, hey, you have to bail us out. Or a sar, who's not really going to take it off the dribble. He's certainly not going to shoot it. Harris had like two good looks where if he had hit one of them in the.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

During regulation off a double team when they went 1 4, like, maybe they win the game and you still are sitting here, but, like, they're a. You need multiple guys in these playoff possessions that can make something out of nothing. And they have four guys standing around. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm glad that we have you on the show right now because it looks like we might be dealing with maybe a double header of all time rest versus rust discussions the way that these series are going. So we're gonna have two teams that are gonna have swept and be sitting on their hands for a while, and then a team that goes either six or seven games. You know, more than anybody, you're a gym guy. You know that there's a fine line. Your muscles, they need rest. Right.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Like they do.

[Big Cat]

A good night's sleep is also a form of its own workout if you want to maximize your gains.

[Ryan Rosillo]

That's what they say.

[Big Cat]

But then you go too long and it's atrophy. So when it comes to the NBA, how does. How does that relate to your experience? Right.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Well, I. I worked out this morning at like seven something, and I was not ready, so it wasn't a good night's sleep. I would have liked to have slept better. I would have liked to have gone a little bit later. I would have. But I got invited on this big podcast.

[Big Cat]

Sorry about that.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, no, I appreciate it because it was immediately I was like, something's wrong. And I was like, what hurts?

[PFT Commenter]

You were late, but.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. Yeah, and I was late, too. I feel like San Antonio needed to be challenged more than OKC did. You know, okc, this is embarrassing. Like their second best player. Unless you want to say it's Chet, let's just say an all NBA caliber, like a guy that was flirting with being considered a top 10, top 15 player because Jalen Williams defense, he's played two of these eight games, they haven't needed him. They are throwing in guys in the second half that you're like, is he even going to play in a close game? And then he'll come in and just make like, I don't Even know if McCain actually plays in the Spurs. Yeah, and he probably does at some point. But because they've already been through it, you know, the Dallas loss, which maybe is their playoff seasoning for a young group in 24 running through everybody last year, but not in a dominant way. Like they still had the Game seven series against Denver. Who knows what happens if Halliburton doesn't get hurt and gate like we kind of look at OKC is, oh my God, it's like, man, they had like a couple series where you're going, I didn't expect this certainly against the Pacers. So now that they've been through it, I don't know that they needed as much. Even though the two teams they played clearly had no chance. And this version of Minnesota, even though a lesser version of ant, no DiVincenzo, they're trying to figure it out. They've kind of shortened up the rotation. I think the fight that this series is that these guys are really physical and to see the way you've got two rookies, right? You've got Carter, you've got Harper, you've got a second year player in Castle. These guys are just up for the physical challenge of what Minnesota is in a way that's really impressed me. Even the Game four thing is really cool because they ended up just going to your sleep point. They went back to the hotel in Minneapolis. We're like, let's just sleep here tonight and then we'll wake up late and then we'll go back instead of just immediately leaving and landing in san Antonio like 4:00am So I think they needed it. So it's not a clear, hey, OKC is going to win because they had all this rest. I think San Antonio needed to learn some stuff about themselves that they weren't going to learn in the Portland series for their first time ever going through it. So even though it's going to go longer than maybe you'd expect because of the Game four situation, I think there's a benefit to it for them because all of this is just like still new.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you a little nervous if you're okc. I'll read you a tweet, though, from. From one of the best NBC NBA brains on Twitter. This is from no Tech, Ben. He said only two guys to beat OKC in a championship round the past two years are Wemby and Giannis. There's a specific arc, archetype that is their kryptonite.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Say that again.

[PFT Commenter]

Only two guys to beat OKC in a championship round the past two years are Wemby and Giannis.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Are they talking about the, the Cup?

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, that would be the NBA Cup.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, I, I don't.

[PFT Commenter]

That's their kryptonite. I mean, let's. Facts are facts. They lost in the championship last year to Milwaukee in the NBA cup final. They lost in the semifinals of the Spurs.

[Big Cat]

Like the Buffalo Bills of the NBA Cup.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, people are starting to ask questions.

[PFT Commenter]

The book the blueprints out.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When the, when the stakes get highest in the NBA.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Single elimination. Yes. Yeah. Single elimination. There could be some issues there. Yeah, I hadn't really thought of that at all.

[Big Cat]

You don't respect the NBA cup, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Actually, we had that on Wake up, Bar store. Stephen Che kind of brought up a similar point, being like, because I, I, I believe that the Spurs, I mean, yes, of course they can win it all, but you got to go through it to then win it all. And Stephen Shea was like, what about the NBA Cup? Do you not respect the NBA Cup? And Ryan was just like, no, I, I do not. Like, point blank, do not.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's going to be, hey, four one, you know, in the regular season and, you know, to kind of that Knicks Pistons thing where I don't want to watch those games if they're playing each other and say, like, and again, pizza's got some work to do for the Knicks fans even have to worry about it. But, like, I saw real things in that that worried me about New York. So I've got to remember that, you know, there'll be these games in a regular season. Like, don't forget what this felt like and what this looked like. And there were times like OKC had a game against Houston. I remember where I was just laughing going, they can't start their offense. Like okc. Whatever they did out of the break, they're like, hey, let's take their soul right now defensively. And OKC can do that. They didn't even shoot it well in the playoffs last year. That was the difference. Where they would just have this kind of 12, zero run where you're just like, we can't do anything against these guys. This sucks. And OKC normally does that to other teams. In San Antonio in that game, I felt like was. It was the one time I'm like, man, they're making OKC look like an OKC opponent here. Like, this looks really, really hard. And even if you want to get into some of the lineup stuff like Wemby's most minutes played against OKC in any regular season game this year was 28 minutes. It's like 21, 21, 24, 26, 28 or something like that. So they weren't even using like a full 35 minute version of him. And I've had times this year when I've watched them going like, I kind of want to be the guy that goes, you know, in February. You know what? I've seen enough. I think Wemby's that special that they're going to still be able to be okc because it's not like OKC went through everybody last year like Golden State did, when those five guys were all right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

I mean, Wimby's been. He's been so impressive this year. It's been unreal. The. The best.

[Ryan Rosillo]

He's the best watch in the NBA.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I'm telling you, after that first quarter the other night, I'm like, what's more fun than this?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there's nothing that's more like. You see something with Wimby that you have never seen. Like, watching him play is. It feels like how you, you know, like when you were a kid and you were playing Koosh, like with like a Koosh basketball set or like basketball set above.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I always thought, I thought you were going to talk about weed.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

Kush. Yeah.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Because I know. Well, I know you don't like weed,

[Big Cat]

but I'm not a drug.

[PFT Commenter]

Not drug, but you're. You were with us at the bachelor party. Confirmed. Not drug guys.

[Ryan Rosillo]

No,

[Big Cat]

but you remember when you were.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I was so confused multiple times that I was like, I don't know what's going on on right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Just leaving the room to the other room.

[Big Cat]

I. I had to use the bathroom a lot. I got.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Is there a suite on top of the suite?

[Big Cat]

I've got a small little bladder.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's shrinking. Like, don't worry about Rosillo. He's taking notes.

[Big Cat]

Also, allergies. The desert. Lots of, Lots of allergies.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's like, why is this guy napping? That doesn't make any sense.

[Big Cat]

You remember like. Yeah. Being a kid, though, and playing like nerf. Basketball with a hoop above the rim and how, how low everything felt. That is how. That's how he plays basketball in an NBA court where it's like, oh, yeah, he's just going to step around people, not really leave his feet, heat, throw the ball down into the basket. So like, even he gets credit for a lot of dunks, but he's just like throwing the ball down on half of his shots and he's not dunking. And then his defense is just absolutely incredible to a point that we've never seen anything like it before. And just the steps that he's taken this year, he is the most fun to watch. I want him, I want the spurs to keep advancing because I want to keep watching Wimby and like, maximizing my years where I'm rooting for Wimby because there will be a tipping point point where I say, this sucks. This is bad for basketball. He's too tall. It's not fair.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Like Yukon women's hoops.

[Big Cat]

Exactly. So Wemby. I want to maximize the time that I have, like actually rooting for Wimby and, and actually feeling good about watching Wimby on tv because I'm. I'm right in the thick of it right now and. And you think they have a real chance to beat the Thunder?

[Ryan Rosillo]

I do, but I'm not gonna pick them.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. I've basically. And I wish I had something cooler to say other than, hey, okc's been through it a little bit more and this is just the way this whole thing works. But I'm. I'm just like, don't fall for it. Don't fall for the regular season part of this. Even if it feels like, you know, Wemby's kind of this unsolvable thing. And you're right because I was thinking about it last night, like the timeline of a star and what we do to these guys. Right. Like where it's. It's so much fun and everybody loves him in the beginning, you know, like even Ant. Although Ants probably even though he was hurt here. And I don't think anybody should feel bad about Anthony Edwards and be like, hey, we have to reassess this. But basically what happens, like if you're really special. And I'm not talking about like that second tier of star who gets to kind of hide and doesn't take all the. Of like the top six or seven

[Big Cat]

guys like Mahomes and in the NFL.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. Can kind of under the radar.

[Big Cat]

But like the mom's. I'm saying the Other way. Like Mahomes. We all loved him until we didn't. Until it was like, okay, he's done

[Ryan Rosillo]

this too, but at least he backed it all up. Yeah, though. That's. That's the difference in the NBA. There's a lot of times where it's like, hey, I think this guy's really, really special. But now it's year seven, and now we just have to shit on you. And if Wemby, say, goes like, the first six years without one, which seems unlikely, but it's still a lot, you know, whenever you're sitting there and I remember, like, being on some of the debate shows, and somebody across from you would be like, well, I don't think this guy's ever going to win a championship. And you're like, okay, that's a really powerful statement. And the odds are in your favor to do it. But you're. You don't. You don't know that. But I can't argue with you and say, yes, I guarantee this guy wins one. Wemby feels like it's a guarantee at some point, but. But say they don't get through OKC this year. Say he's hurt again because I still feel like he falls down so much that it scares the shit out of me.

[PFT Commenter]

Say people figure out he's French.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, that'll. There'll be some.

[PFT Commenter]

But that happens. People are going to turn.

[Ryan Rosillo]

But it also depends where our relations are.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Because remember, like, early 2000s, when it was like, let's call them freedom fries and stop ordering Grey Goose. Grey Goose at the club.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You guys know what I'm talking about.

[Big Cat]

I was freedom kissing in high school. I wasn't making out. I was. It wasn't. Yeah, it was fun. Seven minutes.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Did you freedom her?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we freed him last night. I. I do think that with. With the Spurs. Tell me if I'm crazy to think this. It might. Might be prisoner of the moment. But throughout these playoffs, I think Dylan Harper might be the best guard that they have.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I even wondered, like, if there were some Castle possessions where they could give a few more to Harper. And then Castle, once the game got tied to, you know, San Antonio blows that lead and Minnesota's coming back because they're a tough team. Man, the mentality. That team's terrific. Champagne hits a three. And then Castle just goes in his own little six zero run where he just dropped the entire toolbox and was like, I do all these different things because I'm with you. Like, Harper is so good, and he's Working some really good defensive players where I think even they're a little surprised because it's so smooth. You know, Castle is not smooth. He is like rough course sandpaper. And then it works. And Harper's just like, oh. And then he finished on the other side. All this different stuff. I thought, like, is it too much to ask for him to be the guy to close out some of these games? I mean, what he did in Portland in that one game, it's like, all right, yeah, I'm a rookie and I'm gonna close out a playoff game and just be completely unstoppable. I mean, it's stupid how good and comfortable some of these young players are, but I'd imagine Harper, like, the progression of this team is that Harper has more of these possessions that Castle has now. But I don't mean that as like a knock on Castle.

[Big Cat]

It's just that really good.

[PFT Commenter]

I just think Castle's such a good defender that that's the underrated part. That, like, they're both.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I voted them all defense.

[PFT Commenter]

I think second team defensively.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, I don't think he's going to make all defense, but I think Castle's on ball stuff because he's going to use all of his fouls.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

And he fouls so much that they're kind of like, we're not going to call these. Watch Castle off the ball on, like, a really good offensive player. They had him playing against Jokic in one of those last regular season games that. That. The awesome Spurs Nuggets one taking down Randall, too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean, like, it's. You can put them anywhere.

[Ryan Rosillo]

And we saw him live when we went to the tournament.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's right.

[Ryan Rosillo]

And you were like, that guy in two years is going to be this.

[PFT Commenter]

On the Spurs.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's crazy. They've. They've nailed it. I mean, they have three guys under

[PFT Commenter]

21 with those three guys. Harper, Castle, and Wemby.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. And then Carter Bryant, who probably could have the ball a little bit more, comes in and he's like, oh, yeah, I'll just be a three and D guy. Like, obviously, until I get my rookie extension. I'd like to get some more shots and some more stats and all that kind of stuff. And then he's totally bought in. Like, Shannon went at him and he was, like, laughing at Shannon. And then he had a play where, like, he and Randall slammed into each other, like, whatever the scores are and who's hitting shots and all that stuff. The. The. Hey, your first time through in Minnesota's now made it pretty deep the last couple years. And these guys have been around for a while, like, as a young team going to respond, Are they going to keep looking back to the bench? Are they going to keep looking at the refs? And instead they're just kind of looking at the opponent going, we're not, we're not intimidated by any of this stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right, I got a quick. Let's play a game of. Are they screwed?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Lakers.

[Ryan Rosillo]

No, because Luca is there and I, you know, you're thinking about that trade going like, imagine if this were Davis, LeBron Reeves eliminated in the second round and you're going like, what do you do now? What do you do now? So the keys to Canard, probably. But he's a free agent.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, shit.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To max him.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Who knows? Reddick's like, if I sign you for a huge number of people are just going to say that you remind me of me. And I don't, I don't need that kind of controversy. Yeah, they're not screwed because they have Luca, but I mean, they have a ton of work to do. Smart's a free agent. I mean, Ayton has a player option for 8 million.

[PFT Commenter]

He stinks.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I wouldn't think they'd want him to pick it up. You'd think he'd still be able to do 8 million somewhere else. And then it's like, hey, can I just go to a bad team where I can maybe play like 40, 50 games? I get to wear some of, like my fancy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Play some video games.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Right, right. Like, can we just do like 50 games?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Get 14 and 10.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. Right.

[PFT Commenter]

In a 30 point loss.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I can't, I couldn't believe, like Lakers fans. And it also speaks to, like, how much, like, you're just not watching a ton of Portland if you're a Lakers fan last year. And then I just go, look, he's not a foxhole guy. Then he's. I think he was like making 79% of his shots. And offaluka, like, his job should be super easy. Able to get 15 points, just stay engaged and catch all these lobs. And he's got great touch. I mean, there's a reason he went. One, he's an incredibly talented guy, but he's just not a foxhole guy at all. And then Lakers fans finally were like, oh, maybe there were some points that were made here that were fair about him. I don't know what they're going to do with the LeBron thing. I can't imagine that he was just going to retire in secret.

[PFT Commenter]

It. Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Doesn't seem like that'd be him.

[PFT Commenter]

He doesn't want to be on the Lakers anymore. You see that whole. The story about I did them giving the ball to JJ Redick for his 100th win, when LeBron had the most wins in the same game I did.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I. I just don't know why he cares about a lot of this. Pointless.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Because somebody had to care enough to make that point to the reporter and then be like, use it, he likes to say.

[Big Cat]

I think he likes hearing himself say, you know, I'm a bit of a basketball historian. I think he thinks that that adds, like, a little bit of panache. I always more behind LeBron James.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Part of it I get. Because they're chasing this one guy. So it's almost like every single thing is like trying to stack an extra little chip to get somebody. By the way, I don't know that I've ever met anyone that's neutral on the MJ LeBron thing. Have you ever met anyone that's ever changed their mind?

[Big Cat]

No, no. Minds will never get changed. That's the beauty behind it is, like, you say you're open to changing your mind when new facts come out, but no, I mean, the longer LeBron plays, the more he gives you the stats that you can then use against him. Like, he's the first guy to get swept in four different decades.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, but I don't even. I don't care about that kind of stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

It's almost become, like, what's your favorite, like, flavor of ice cream? It's like, are we going to argue what you like versus what I like?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. And we're kind of doing it right now, but I think it drives him crazy. I think that's kind of, like. Even after the last dance, like, I think there was a lot of. I don't want to call it propaganda, but, like. Like, floating out. Like, there was one time when he had said, hey, I've won the two toughest championships in NBA history. And we talked about this in Wake up Barstool and 16. I would give him that comeback. Like, I think it's the toughest one I've ever seen, but I don't think the bubble one was tough. Even though I acknowledge it and think it's a championship. You guys are dicks about it. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, for some people, it does count.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. For you it's fine.

[Ryan Rosillo]

For me,

[Big Cat]

it does count.

[PFT Commenter]

We went down the roster on Wednesday. He went through.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Who gets it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. There Was some halves given out? There's some half shares. There were some full shares.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I think this year was actually pretty drama free, considering. But there's. Like I said, I just think there's a lot of, like, public messaging, a lot of PR with him. That's kind of a waste of time. Like, he wasn't one of. Well, I thought he was actually really good in the playoffs. Right. But he knocked over something. It was like, he is. No one's ever been a better third option. No one's ever accepted their role better. And you were like. Well, of course, like. Like it still should go through Luca. Like, when Luca's right. This. This is one of the five best players in the world. You know, you're right.

[Big Cat]

People don't change their minds about it. But I think some people should. Like, if you compare it to political discourse in this country, you have. There's actually a market out there for somebody to be like, I've been a Jordan guy my entire life and they left me behind and Now I'm a LeBron guy and I'm reformed. I've changed my mind. They went too.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Woke on me with Dragon.

[PFT Commenter]

Did it. Saw that clip after the. After. After the. The car race win.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I saw that. And you know what? At this point, you. You drive a man. So the Overton window has shifted so far on Jordan that now I find myself without a party and I have to be a LeBron guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

There's a market out there for a guy like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

What?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Ralph. Who's Ralph? Nader, NBA.

[Big Cat]

Oh, the Green party. That probably J R Smith.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Junior seems like he would.

[PFT Commenter]

It might be Kobe. Yeah. He's getting votes.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, but I think that's too many, Shaq.

[PFT Commenter]

Too many votes.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know who that would be.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, maybe Yoke.

[Big Cat]

What is Katie gonna do?

[PFT Commenter]

What.

[Big Cat]

What are his options going to look like this off season?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Look, their whole thing is I have. I have their GM on in like a couple hours, so I can't wait for that. But it. Their big thing is, like, if we had had Fred Van Valet, we would have been fine now. Not fine like, hey, we're going to beat okay, Antonio. But it was pretty clear. And this is where, like, the playoffs exposes your stuff and, like, doesn't. You can't lie anymore in the playoffs. And you're like, okay, the Amend Thompson point guard thing, like, isn't a thing. Reed shepherd, who I still really like. It's a lot to ask when you didn't really even want to play him because he may can't stand his defense, even though I think there's some things that he holds up better. But again, if you're going to pick on somebody, you're not going to pick over Reed, you know, to ask him to be like, hey, run our offense in these playoff games, like, that's not going to look great either. And when they play Shingoon and a men together and then Durant's just fucking miserable because he's like a men's guy. Doesn't play him if he's outside, and then if Shingoon's outside, nobody plays against him. And then Durant, you know, I think part of his frustration I would understand, but I also think there are other times, like, why are you bringing the ball up and walking right into a double team 30ft away from the basket? And then, like, nobody's respecting anybody outside of you because they just don't feel like you have real shooting. Even with somebody like Tari Eason, whose first half of the season he just was on fire and then it fell off a cliff. So I understand him looking around and going like, hey, I can't be asked to bail us out of every single one of these possessions, despite how great my resume is as an offensive player. And like, what a matchup. I mean, remember when he's bitching about the Lakers double teaming him? Yeah, it's like, no shit, man. Like you're going to get doubled. Like, look at the matchups here. Of course, like the playoffs, you start selling out a little bit more with your rules going like, let's really try this. You know, it's back to that Mobley Sar thing where you just go, what if we just have Mobley on him and he never plays them? Yeah, if he hits a shot or two, fine. But now we get to play against four guys with five and the extra five is a former defensive player of the year. So I imagine because he's already gotten the extension and everything, that the whole thing is, it'll be so much better when Fred is back. And don't worry about it, because I don't. I don't think he's going to want to say, like, hey, I need to go somewhere else again.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it'd be so funny.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You guys are rooting for that.

[PFT Commenter]

So funny.

[Big Cat]

I mean. Yes, I am.

[PFT Commenter]

Absolutely.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Ryan Rosilla what about the Nuggets? Are the Nuggets screwed?

[Ryan Rosillo]

No, I don't think they're screwed. But the Aaron Gordon not being healthy thing, back to back playoff runs here. Great. Yeah, I mean he was, he was really hurt last year and I mean, we want to talk about somebody who's playing hurt because sometimes you get pissed.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Like the team gets eliminated. He's like, you know that guy's ankles actually was. And you're like, I couldn't even tell, man. Aaron Gordon, you're like, oh, oh what?

[PFT Commenter]

He's running around with his hamstring last year. What are you doing?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Even this year when it was like he can't even jump up to contest that. Like, if anybody's going to jump up and try anything, it's that guy. So I think Cam Johnson's year was generally a disappointment. And then Christian Brown in the playoffs, but he's under contract wasn't great. They had, they had real depth this year, man. They had depth that you felt like, okay, this is going to be able to help them stay competitive in those few non jokic minutes in the playoffs because you know, the regular season numbers, whatever, like he's going to take off his normal sub pattern, but he's going to play more minutes in the playoffs. And that was something during the regular season that was like a big improvement for them. Even if a couple of the other guys I thought were like a little down. But you know, they're not a team that's known for paying the tax, which is incredibly unfortunate. Like if you're going to pay the tax, it should be when you have one of the greatest players in the history of the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And, and then what's your Official prediction what LeBron does this offseason? Where, where would you, you know what? I'm not even going to say Prediction. I want Ryan to use his imagination. Where would you like to see LeBron next?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Where would I like to see him? I don't know that I care enough to say, like, I'd really like to see this. I mean, if he cares about money, it'd be funny. Just be like, all right, go to Chicago then. They've got all the caps.

[PFT Commenter]

Finally do. Finally do it from that summer.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Right. Is that the way to surpass Jordan?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that would be very Jordan. Play for any other teams? I wonder where else to try to match.

[PFT Commenter]

Question here by pft.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, I can figure. I love the Jordan Wizards years. I got to see it live.

[Big Cat]

They're great.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I. I have a hard time believing that he wouldn't work something out with la.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but think about JJ Reddick got that, that, that ball, that game ball. That was bad.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You think Reddick would just go, hey, man, here's the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, here. You know what? You have the ball.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. I can't imagine Reddick caring.

[PFT Commenter]

Scrib it.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, that'd be awesome. Just duct tape.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

To LeBron.

[Big Cat]

It makes me wonder how many balls LeBron has at his house. Like, how many. How many meaning hundreds could. Does he have if he's that fired up about this one.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I know, because I used to get annoyed about the Emmett Smith thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I was like, you're gonna keep all of them. And I don't know why it bothered me. Maybe it's because, like, if you. You either love the Cowboys, you hate the Cowboys. And Grant, I was a kid, so I was far more irrational about stuff. It's like, oh, you're gonna keep that one? I'd be like watching a game at home.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

There's some trainer writing it down. Yeah, it was like, number 3, 11, 17.

[PFT Commenter]

Speaking of, do you want a gift?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

I got you a gift.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's going to be hard to compete with this. Sarah Walsh, 50th birthday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, your purse that you've been walking around with has been pretty nice. Now, I got.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I've dressed pretty gay this week.

[Big Cat]

Put on the coat and the glasses. I think people need to see is.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, sure.

[Big Cat]

I thought that Ryan was.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Zero hesitation.

[Big Cat]

I thought Ryan was pitbull when he walked into the office this morning.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, and you can also say, because it's not like you're single and lifelong single and live by yourself. So it's not. People aren't asking questions. He. Look, he came in with a. Like, when Ryan. When Ryan came in today, it came. He came in with a presence it was like a, it was almost, it was almost like a, a, A wind came with you. Oh. All right. Sit down and do the rest of the interview with that.

[Big Cat]

Can you do the model pose like you did when you rocking that resillo hoodie?

[PFT Commenter]

You just looked awesome. You look awesome. I told you this was on the live show. So we. People didn't hear this, but I, I said like when we were at the cabana, your, your body looked awesome.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Thanks, man.

[PFT Commenter]

You had your shirt off and I

[Big Cat]

was like, damn, what kind of glasses are those?

[Ryan Rosillo]

These are Louis Vuittons.

[Big Cat]

That's nice.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Ever heard of them?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Would you like your gift?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. I mean, obviously this isn't going to go well.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I actually think it's going to

[Ryan Rosillo]

go pretty well to you guys, so my expectations are somewhat muted.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, listen, hey, hey. I don't know if you know this, but you know, you're the show. You do Ryan Rossil podcast. It is recorded and people can listen to it. So when you said, I think the exact quote was Big cat. What a waste of a great frame game. That one hurt a little.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You know what though? Nothing, nothing has worked so. Nothing has worked so far. So sometimes you need tough coaching. You know, I remember calling me fat.

[PFT Commenter]

Would have been better. Your disappointment when you said the exact quote, what a, what a waste of a great frame.

[Big Cat]

I also think that so like that might be.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I've said it a few times.

[Big Cat]

Plagiarized Billy football take too. I, I think he said the exact same thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Kyle and Ceru both gave like a O. Like not like a.

[Ryan Rosillo]

There's like O. Yeah. You know that that's bad. There's like no one says anything and they just go. But I also. Do you think I'm saying it to be insulting or you're trying to motivate me?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And I appreciate that. Also. I, I was a little upset too because the life advice. You guys had a life advice where it was very funny. It was a 41 year old dude who. That was why this came up, the frame thing, because the guy said he had a comp of my body. But the 41 year old dude married a 29 year old girl and the 29 year old girl's youngest brother, 23.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Kept calling him a pedophile in the group chat and you guys took it way too seriously. That kid rocks.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You think he's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Call his brother in law a pedophile and be like serious about it. It's funny as.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, I didn't think of it that way at all.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I want to hang with that dude.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Because I, all I could think of him was, was that he grew up, up thinking everything was terrible and like you could put some label on everything. Like he was raised by Twitter so that he was like, I can't believe my brother in law is a pedophile. Yeah, dude, you got to relax like you know when people. Yeah, but just there's certain things where it's like some of these, the power of some of these categories have been ruined because you're saying it about like anybody.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, but that guy, he might be, right? You don't know.

[Big Cat]

He's married to basically a 30 year old. Yeah, but it's kind of funny that, right? His wife is 30 and he's 11

[Ryan Rosillo]

years older than a kid.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but think about what, what about when the, the guy who wrote in when he was 22, his wife was what, 11?

[Ryan Rosillo]

That wasn't the email.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm telling you, the 22 year old. Either way, when I heard him say that, when you're like, he keeps calling me a pedophile, I laugh so hard. That guy is fucking funny.

[Big Cat]

Did you ask when they met that day?

[Ryan Rosillo]

No, they had met three years prior. So he was 38 and she was, I think it was 3826 and then 4129.

[PFT Commenter]

But, but to like think, think of like everyone's like on a group chat with their family. To think about a 23 year old male like being on a group chat with his family and being like, yeah, your husband's a pedophile is very fun.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's really funny. Until it's actually real though. Like imagine being the guy who emails in and his brother in law is calling him a pedophile. Like to everyone.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you should go with it.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Okay, but how would you like if you actually were the guy who emailed and you.

[PFT Commenter]

I probably talk shit back to 23 year old.

[Big Cat]

I'd be like, I'm picking your sister school. Hang on, I'll get back to you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, or I'd be like, hey dude, you're, you're pretty obsessed with, with me being a pedophile. You got something you want to tell us?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Like virgin?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you're. Well, no, just like maybe you're thinking about pedophile. How often do you think about pedophilia? Yeah, just reverse it on them.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Meg would do an intervention. That would be an awful great prank though. Interventions with people that don't need them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Golf trip.

[Big Cat]

True life. I'M addicted to calling strangers pedophiles.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, just keep doing it either way. I thought that kid rocked.

[Big Cat]

So.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, maybe a little off on that one. But life advice, obviously. Everyone listen to Ryan Rossil podcast. You ready for your gift?

[Ryan Rosillo]

I am.

[PFT Commenter]

You? I'll preface this gift with saying if

[Ryan Rosillo]

you looks already looks damaged it.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I open it to confirm it was it. If you don't want to bring it home with you, I will find a place for it here that we can celebrate it.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Ryan Rosillo]

All right. Oh, wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

This looks like it might be awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it is awesome. All right.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Because I know you've been on this memorabilia.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I have.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Crazy. Is this a flag of Sri Lanka?

[Big Cat]

No, no, it's way better.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Is this a sail? I don't have a sailboat.

[Big Cat]

It's way better. You can bring. Maybe you can sail for your boat.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Oh, no way.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Say. Say it in the.

[Big Cat]

It's a banner.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty damn cool, right?

[Big Cat]

It says. It says the NBA Finals.

[PFT Commenter]

The NBA Finals is 14 foot long banner.

[Ryan Rosillo]

This is an awesome gift.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but which finals is it?

[Big Cat]

Good question.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Bubble.

[PFT Commenter]

No, you know which finals it is. That NBA finals banner hung in the concourse in Phoenix, Arizona for Chris Paul's only NBA finals, which he lost by the way.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Up two. Oh, Giannis hit every free throw.

[PFT Commenter]

You're pretty excited about that too.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, I mean, I know it's the purple, so I was a little.

[PFT Commenter]

No, wait.

[Ryan Rosillo]

So why do you have it?

[PFT Commenter]

I bought it for you.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Well, I appreciate it. I'm gonna send a picture to Chris Paul right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, be careful because it might. He might relapse because when he got that, he was like, I'm kind of addicted to going to the finals. So he's. He finally cold turkey got rid of that. If you send that back, he might backslide.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you want me to hang it here? Do you want to take it home with you?

[Ryan Rosillo]

You man, I don't know. I'm trying to think which room it works in.

[PFT Commenter]

It's 14ft.

[Ryan Rosillo]

What if I hung it outside? And like, that would be cool when people drive by Manhattan beach, cuz different people have flags on their houses and stuff. And then I was like, I can't tell if that's. That might actually be hilarious.

[PFT Commenter]

Although, like, he's a finals guy.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I might have to put like a sea anchor in behind it with the wind we get down there, you can decide.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. It is a gift for you. But if you don't, because it is kind of an annoying gift.

[Ryan Rosillo]

This is a great gift. This is a great gift.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Chris Paul's only final you want to talk about? Like, I have this little briefcase from Sarah Walsh that I've said is the nicest gift anyone's ever getting me. Now I feel like number one and number two are right next to each other. I'm not even sure what number one is.

[Big Cat]

Ryan, what I think you should do at least for the podcast that you put out during the NBA Finals. The NBA says they're going to put the Larry o' Brien trophy on the court to give it, like a little extra flair. You should just have that in the background of every podcast. During the finals.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Only during the finals.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That way people know.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. I'm going to take it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I love the game.

[PFT Commenter]

We could have Dom ship it to you so you don't have to put it in your bag.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. Cuz I don't. I don't know how I would fit it. They'd be like, hey, you can't have any of your clothes.

[PFT Commenter]

Go me.

[Ryan Rosillo]

What if I wrap myself in this?

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be pretty cool.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I think you could make a suit out of this.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, a little photo shoot for the NBA Finals.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Wait a minute though. Why did Phoenix get rid of it? Why was it available?

[PFT Commenter]

I found it on ebay.

[Big Cat]

To me, that's that. Out of all the things that we've gotten at this office, this. I think this is the most impressive one that Big Cat's gotten because I don't see a lot of teams getting rid of, like, NBA Finals participant banners.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Do you think?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, no, this wasn't. This wasn't like a banner. That was. This was a banner in the, like, concourse. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, gotcha.

[PFT Commenter]

Like you could. This is like, probably outside of like 104. 104.

[Zach]

104.

[Big Cat]

Okay. It's still.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Sun's in 104.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. There you go. But yeah, it's. It's a cool banner.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's an awesome gift because I was never going to play in one. Likely so.

[Big Cat]

Never said never Finals.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Never say never.

[Big Cat]

Let me see.

[Ryan Rosillo]

That's an awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm going to see if he put any other details. This banner was hanging at the Phoenix Suns arena for the NBA Finals. Phoenix Suns for Milwaukee. Best Bucks. Yeah. It's beautiful. Used in game. Love it.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I'm really appreciative. Yeah, Seriously. I'm going to hang it in the. The backdrop of the pod for NBA Finals.

[Big Cat]

Great.

[PFT Commenter]

Chris Paul to sign.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Sign it.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be cool.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I don't think I'm gonna do that.

[PFT Commenter]

You got Andrew Luck to sign the, the semi final banner.

[Big Cat]

The AFC final.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He was like, yeah, I'll sign it.

[Big Cat]

We want to get, we want to get as many people in that game to sign that banner.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I actually feel like that that banner went from being probably worthless to a very valuable piece of NFL merchandise.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

That'd be pretty crazy if your whole long play was to buy these things that you can't believe exist and then you guys kind of raise awareness and then you're just flipping these things.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, no, they're, I mean, well, well, Hank's sitting in there. He, he doesn't see the vision. But I have no intention of selling any of these things. But like a Buffalo Bill Stadium trough that also was in barstool HQ would go for more money.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It would.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not going to sell any of

[Ryan Rosillo]

these, but yes, I think that would be if things went bad, you know. Yeah, they're like, those guys are getting a little old for some of those jokes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Then we just start, just rip it off.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Selling everything thing.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Just doing all memorabilia flips.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they're, they're getting a little old to say the 23 year old was cool to call his brother in law a pedophile. Well, I didn't think of it that

[Big Cat]

way because I can't tell if you're right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's like, Ryan, this is a, an NBA draft preview. You're doing a lot of scouting on 19 year olds yourself. So maybe I can, I've got a similar problem that you can help me with.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I know I'm getting too nice though, as I get older.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, no, I, I saw it as this guy, this kid is just like, he's a ball buster to the, to the extreme left level.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I guess maybe I took it personally because if I do get married, it's probably gonna happen to me.

[PFT Commenter]

Being a pedophile.

[Ryan Rosillo]

No, that wasn't what I was a youngest. Likely you'll be a little bit younger.

[Big Cat]

I don't want to say like what is that? If you went older, but maybe May September relationship.

[Ryan Rosillo]

May September?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you know, May November. That would, you would describe some, some older couples like that. If the guy's 60, the ladies in her like late 20s, that would be a May November relationship. But you are looking maybe for like a May September.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I see what you're saying there. Yeah, I remember. I just, I was in Vail once and I saw some old guy just ripping darts in a ski outfit and it Was clearly his second wife. He was a little bit messier than. Than maybe I'd want to be, but it was a little early. He's still in a ski outfit. And he just. I was like, is that guy. Got it all figured out, you know, because she was great for him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You know, But I don't know. Yeah. Maybe that's why. Maybe that's why I didn't go there, because I was like, I'll likely be 10 years older if I ever get married.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know what I would like to do at some point with your permission? You know how, like, some people. Some people have. They've got packs where it's like, hey, if we're both single when we're 50, we're getting married. That sort of thing.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I'm not making a pact with you.

[Big Cat]

Not with me.

[PFT Commenter]

Me.

[Big Cat]

But at some point, like, is there a date where we can do the Ryan Rosillo dating show? Yeah. No, I think you'd be a catch, Ryan.

[PFT Commenter]

What about the Ryan Rossillo bachelor party?

[Ryan Rosillo]

We were thinking about doing that with my college buddies, or they were like, can we just have a bachelor party even though you're not engaged? And I was like, yeah, probably. I mean, so basically you'd have an excuse for.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Ryan Rosillo]

And, like, are you going to tell your wives that I'm not. That there's no wedding invite, save the date or anything coming? And they're like, we'll just say that it got called off, and everyone will believe it because it's you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's up. That part's messed up.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Because one guy, like, was like, we're just gonna say it was called off. And I was like, well, you know, like, you think it's gonna be challenged?

[PFT Commenter]

Red flag comes out.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, that's. I was like, that'll be an easy sell. And then guys are like, come on, let's do it. Like, let's. It's been forever. And then they were kind of like, if you had gotten married in your 20s, that bachelor party would have sucked because we would have all had to pay for everything, including you. But now, like, I was like, it also starting to sound like I'm gonna pay for all of it now, which is not what's supposed to happen.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Ryan Rosillo]

So I'll tell you what. You guys are invited to my bachelor party.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Nice.

[Ryan Rosillo]

For a wedding that's likely not gonna happen.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it might. You never know. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Never say never.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I did the drop a pin pod, and I admitted, like, sometimes I wonder if I do the travelogs because it's an excuse to be by yourself, where. If I just did the solo trips without any documentation, then you'd be like, hey, dude, this is getting old.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's a bummer. Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Do you not want to share some of these experiences? Somebody you care about? And then it's like, well, I've got to take notes. I got to figure out what the spice trade was from the 1400. So I don't. I can't. I couldn't have anyone here. She's like, oh, are you outlining day four again?

[Big Cat]

I'm working.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. I'd be like, hey, we have to make. Make it. Make sure we see these waves. It's going to take us six hours to drive there. And she'd be like, can we just stay an extra day here and get brunch maybe and sleep in? I was like, no, the tides are perfect today.

[Big Cat]

We're on a schedule.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. So, like, I. I'm just admitting it right now. That's exactly why I do this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but there's nothing wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't.

[Big Cat]

You don't have to have. Like. There's nothing wrong with wanting.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Wasn't. They were like, this is. I was like, I'm just telling you guys because you're my friends. Saint Bart solo. I was like, this is stupid, man. Man.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's a very. Like, you should be here with some sexy place to go. Yeah. That's like a. Yeah. Romantic place.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm admitting there's nothing wrong with traveling alone. Some people like it.

[Ryan Rosillo]

How about for 15 years to numerous

[Big Cat]

exotics, if you like it, it sounds like you enjoy it.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I do.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, he's kind of telling us something right here that maybe I'll admit I've gotten.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I've walked around a couple villages in the last couple years going, hey, man, what are we doing?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

So I'm just sharing that with you.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Well, hey, listen. PMT bachelor party, gmail dot com, if you're interested. Ryan, Rolo, hit us up. That email address is still being monitored. Ryan, listen, there's. There's a big question out there that's on everybody's mind. We've talked for long enough without discussing the Washington Wizards on this podcast.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I love how in you are. Do you have any xls from that

[Big Cat]

gear they sent me? All mediums. It's crazy.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Shout out to wizards, dear thighs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's good point, Ryan. Right after Hank and I made our bet, a giant box got put in my lap. Of, I think, every piece of merch that the Wizards have ever put out, which is incredible. So shout out to them. I made a bet with Hank the other day because he's stuck in a. An old mindset of, like, you know, the mid-90s, mid-2000s Wizards, where he doesn't think they'll ever do anything good, and he doesn't understand the new regime. We made a bet that the Wizards are going to finish, I think, in the top eight next year. And now this is assuming that AD sticks around, which I think he is. And it's assuming that they keep the number one pick and they don't trade it to the Jazz, and they have Debanza, which is the assumption right now. But with that, I think that they're going to be a top eight pick. Hank does not think so.

[PFT Commenter]

Top eight seed or top eight seed?

[Big Cat]

Sorry. Top eight seed in the east next year.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Does that mean they have to, like, make the. Could they be a 10 seed? Win the play?

[PFT Commenter]

No, no.

[Big Cat]

But they could be an eight seed and lose in the play. Playing right.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Look, if those two guys are healthy, they should be in the top eight.

[Big Cat]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Ryan Rosillo]

And the thing is, I actually like some of the other guys. Like, I think SAR had a really good second year. I really like Keyshawn George. I think Trey Johnson was one of my favorite players in that draft class. Blau and Bub are kind of like a weird, like, which version of it do you want? And it's like, if they were just a hybrid person, then it'd be like, like, well, that's impossible. At least with science now, who knows? There's a lot of things that I. I like from, like, a competitive standpoint. And when you look at the east this year, like, how crazy it was, which kind of gets us back to where we started with this whole thing, is Detroit makes this monstrous leap, but then you're like, okay, but were you a full. Kind of your try hard part of it, which I think Charlotte also was, is like, you're playing kind of your peak all regular season, right? And then it gets exposed a little bit when there's, like, another level. And I think for Detroit, it's. It's not so much that they tried too hard. It's just the offensive thing. Right? So the Celtics thing is kind of weird. The Sixers thing is always weird. The team that made it to the Finals is missing their best player, so they end up tanking a year after being in the NBA Finals. So that's crazy. Cleveland pivots Mid season into something that never works during the playoffs historically, but they might be in the Eastern Conference finals. I already mentioned Orlando, who I think should have been a top four team team, but they're a mess and they can never stay healthy and they bring in Bane and they're actually a worst shooting team, which doesn't make any sense because I think Bain's been great for him. So when you run through all of it and I'm still leaving out like,

[Big Cat]

who knows what the Heat's going to look like.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, Heat. Heat are always good for whatever. Like I didn't mention Toronto. Like, I don't necessarily love the construction of the roster, how much they've spent on some of these guys. But if they're to your cade point, like, when we're done with this, let's not knock Cade if they don't get through this because I think we're all realizing like, hey, Cadillac, Cade could end up becoming the best point guard in the NBA. Some of the stuff that I worried about with Scotty Barnes of like, what is he future face of the league. How many guys are eligible for that?

[Big Cat]

I think it's just Scotty Barnes, future face of this league.

[PFT Commenter]

That's just. We just say that quote a lot here because the coach.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, I know.

[PFT Commenter]

Future face is like future Max, you say, Max, you say.

[Big Cat]

Put that phones on real quick.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I knocked him over. You do have a. I didn't know Max had a dark. Oh, he loves it.

[Big Cat]

And Max does it.

[Max]

Yeah, future face of this lake.

[Ryan Rosillo]

That's really good. That was so good. I love Scotty Barnes even more after this whole thing. So Toronto's probably good for, you know, a couple. I don't know, I mean, maybe there's a tweak here or there. The point is, the point of this whole thing is there's stuff in the way. But if the 26 season told us anything is like, you can't really eliminate any of these teams other than the Nets, the Bulls, you know. Yeah. You know, Atlanta, Atlantis 5 is good. They'll be, you know, you can't just sit there and say, hey, everybody's going to get better.

[PFT Commenter]

No. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

There's Pelicans. Unless they move conferences with AD and Trey, even though, look, Trey's not exactly my favorite. And you get something like, you know, you get kind of like a Dylan Harper season out of who the number one pick ends up being. I don't think eight's crazy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, okay. I don't think it's crazy.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I mean, that might not Happen, but I don't think it's crazy. Yeah, it's not like you're saying they're gonna be a top four C. The one argument you could make is AD gets hurt.

[Big Cat]

AD gets hurt. But I always say like if he's healthy. I've said if he's healthy probably 500 times.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, but that's half the league.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't know. I, I think that they're going to be fun at the very least. And I, I was telling the guys about this, about how historically they, they've been over the course of the last like 50 years. So they haven't won 50 games since 1979. I can't believe that the Wizards have never been to a conference finals or won 50 games in a season since the invention of the three point shot. Think about that. We won the, we won the championship the next year. We won 50 games. I think we lost in the, in the finals the next year year and then the year after that they put in the three point shot and the Wizards, the Bullets at the time, Bullets were just not prepared for the three point shot. And we never got back.

[Ryan Rosillo]

So are you saying they've not embraced analytics?

[Big Cat]

We. Not yet. Not. But now, now we are right with Steve Kerr is saying get rid of

[Ryan Rosillo]

the three point line winger who I like a lot. We had him on the pod. He's an awesome basketball guy, tons of respect. It doesn't mean that you just get to fix everything immediately. I also wonder why the debons of thing has become like consensus the way that it has this week. Like, I feel like it's, I just wouldn't, I don't know anything. But I'm just telling you, like I don't. Peterson is so much better than Devonson when they played against each other. And if you don't believe me, which is fine because I kind of like prep late for the draft. But Gavoni, who's really good on this stuff, like, he had a clip that came out this week with Zach Lowe where he just goes, hey, I've watched him play like eight to ten times in person. I've never once thought Devonsa was better than him. And I know the Peterson season is crazy in regard to everything that happened. I don't believe the creatine thing at all because it'd be like, hey, what's wrong with you? Oh, I started taking this supplement a month ago. Okay, well, hey, you could be the number one fucking pick in the NBA draft. So how about we stop taking the supplement or find A different creatine. Like, that doesn't make any sense that it would happen all season long and like, hey, we figured it out now. Everything's fine. Just not going to take. I'm not going to take this stuff. Micronize. We're out on it. I just think that Peterson like to just turn the page on this the way the consensus kind of has that it's like, oh, yeah, it's just AJ and they're going to take him. Now you may take him because I wouldn't blame any GM for being like, a little scared.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You know, of going like this kind of scares the out of me a little bit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

If I'm going to be wrong, like, I want to be wrong because AJ Ends up not being a great player. I don't want to be wrong in three years where Peterson isn't playing. It's like, hey, had, you know, like Mark health faults.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, yeah, that, that was. That came out of nowhere kind of. But yeah, where you.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, but Mark.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[Ryan Rosillo]

There was that shoulder thing that some people tell you, if you had seen him play before he had that shoulder injury, that they were like, hey, there's a reason why, like, teams still believe in him as the number one overall guy. So I'm only saying that is like, I'm, I'm surprised that as soon as the lottery was drawn, it was the Wizards, and it's like people are ready to make a jersey for AJ and they still may end up picking him. I just would think it's a. I, I would feel like it's a challenge for front office to turn the page on Peterson that quickly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I would agree. I, I don't have it set in stone as being A.J. i think that also people are looking at the roster of the Wizards and saying AJ Makes more sense right now, but I don't think that that should actually impact. If you really believe in a guy

[Ryan Rosillo]

going number one, that's where I think you make the biggest mistakes in the draft is.

[Big Cat]

Is drafting for fit.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. It's like Mar Williams, you know, he's

[PFT Commenter]

just like, hey, you know, pick the best guy. You'll figure it out later. If he's the best guy guy.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Who do you think's going to have the better career? Auff or waggler?

[PFT Commenter]

Wow.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Because a cuff does something like right now that immediately translates where you just go, okay, he's going to get by everybody all the time. And yeah, I know he sucks on defense, but some of the stuff I think is. I think it's really fixable, especially like with big time scoring kids. They're like, they've never really had to play defense their whole life, but there's other teams that just think like it's so bad, you know, Wagler's thing was that he was like in control of every possession. And I don't want to compare him to sga, but there's some SGA type stuff where it's like he keeps the possession alive beyond his own shot decision with him, where there's a composure to him. But it doesn't look, it's not physically as impressive as other guys, which is kind of SGA's downfall is that it doesn't ever look as cool as Ant doing something. It's just, just way more efficient, historically efficient for a two guard. So people get into like the aura thing being like a knock on sga, which I, I kind of get, but it's like I'd rather have that though. And I think Wagler has some of that stuff in where once they just gave him the keys to that team, like that guy was unbelievable. So I'm gonna go Wagler.

[Big Cat]

Okay?

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. All right, you gotta go, Ryan. Last question. Rollback question. Rho, b a c k.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take put on the headphones, Zach.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Oh, yeah, sorry, Zach. I went headphones free on this one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you did. You raw dogged it.

[Zach]

What's going on, Ryan? How are we doing today?

[Ryan Rosillo]

I'm great, Zach. It's so good to see you.

[Zach]

Great to see you as well, my man. I did have a quick question with you. Being a well traveled man, this may be some life advice. Was there a particular country where you found was like this made sense to find a life partner there or is that something you think should be done domestically?

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's a great question. It's a great question because I thought about it like when I went to, when I landed in Reykjavik, I was kind of like, I was like, man, it's three hours to Minneapolis. And I was like, and then you just go straight up to Reykjavik. I was like, this is like less than five hours. I was like, if I meet somebody here, this isn't even that bad of a commute. I mean, granted you'd be saying like, oh, I'm gonna go see my girlfriend in Iceland.

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Ryan Rosillo]

And you'd be like, you couldn't you live in. You live in Los Angeles, man. Like Reykjavik? Yeah, outside of Reykjavik, the western fjords. I don't think we're going to find a lot there, but I. I really think it should be done domestically, because then, I mean, I feel like, Zach, I just don't want you to be used for your citizenship.

[Zach]

I'm not entirely opposed to that, but you're right. I probably shouldn't be, like, a green card target.

[PFT Commenter]

But you're not opposed.

[Zach]

Not 100% opposed.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You know, like, I haven't been to South America, though, so I'm sure, like, my mind.

[PFT Commenter]

That's where you were kind of going with that, Zach.

[Zach]

I don't hate the idea. Like, Colombia, maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This is what Jersey Jerry warned us about. Italians aren't going to exist anymore because they're all attracted to Colombians. And now you're next in line, Ryan.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. I feel like the Columbia thing is. Is over because everyone talks about it.

[Zach]

I could see that, like, oversaturation in the market.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Thoughts? I. I miss my Colombian girls.

[Big Cat]

We're not really.

[PFT Commenter]

We've said that a couple times. Like, I miss my Colombian girls.

[Big Cat]

It's just a big weekend. It's just a big Colombian weekend all around for us.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Max.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Especially the problem is, is, like, if you're going to these hot Instagram spots, like, they're just as unapproachable as, like, going out in Manhattan and fighting over nines with financial guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but Zach is a. He's a. He's an attractive guy.

[Ryan Rosillo]

No, he's a demon. I get that. But I just. Like, there's. There's a language barrier thing, so I don't know. You know, it's just tough. Like, I remember walking around this one town in the south of France, and I was, like, laughing out loud about how hot everybody was, and I was like, you're not going to do anything about it? I was like, of course I'm not going to do anything about it. I'm just going to go home. Like, hey, how's it going? I'm solo and I'm a little bit older than I look.

[Hank]

Good question.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Do you like film?

[Zach]

If we're going domestically, Ryan. Not to branch off a little bit. If we're going domestically, not online. Where we. Where's, like, where.

[Ryan Rosillo]

The hub Here. Right here. You are in it. I'm telling you right now, Chicago is the most attractive, slash, approachable, fair sex of any major city in the United States. And I'm telling you right now, like, you don't have to deal with the northeast thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Thing.

[Ryan Rosillo]

You don't have to Deal with the Southern why aren't you marrying me in six months thing. You don't have to deal with the Southern California thing where it's like, hey, you're nice, but a linebacker in the NFL is also DMing me. You know, you are. You are in Chicago. And if there's one thing that is consistent about this place, Midwest values, Midwest sensibilities and girls that are cute that you can actually talk to.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And you're. I mean, he knows. He. He plays a little quiet. He needs to get in his DMs. I guarantee you they're lit up right now.

[Zach]

I appreciate the advice, Ryan, more than you know. Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

His eyes are incredible. I get lost in him.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Soft eyes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Caribbean.

[Big Cat]

It sounds like Zach's thought about that very question before. Like what. What nationality would you be most attractive to Zach?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Unsure if I. I feel like romance could be glow like a global thing, so I just wouldn't.

[PFT Commenter]

Sure.

[Zach]

I figured. I asked a world travel mate.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. Yeah. Germany, though.

[Zach]

Germany.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah. Little village that might like a guy like. Yeah, there's. I'm telling you, when you're attracted, you're just attracted and you get through those barriers.

[Zach]

Love transcends language. Is that what you're telling me?

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, basically German. Little German villages. Guy like you roll in with those shoulders.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, Ryan, you're the best. Everyone listening to Ryan Rasol podcast and I. You want this?

[Ryan Rosillo]

I want it, yes. I did six shows I wasn't able to do. Mostly sports.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it's tough.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I know it's tough.

[Big Cat]

Break.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I didn't hear from those guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They didn't even try to book you?

[Ryan Rosillo]

No.

[Big Cat]

Know who's in charge over that?

[Ryan Rosillo]

I have no idea.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Fire Fest of the week. Henry.

[Hank]

Honestly, nothing to report. It's been, it's been a good week. Weather's. Weather's coming.

[Big Cat]

Weather's coming.

[PFT Commenter]

Weather's coming.

[Hank]

Summer's coming.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Now.

[Big Cat]

What do you mean by that, Hank?

[Hank]

I mean like it's, it's sunny out. It's, it's, it stays light out till past 8 o', clock, which is just the best.

[PFT Commenter]

Can I, can I throw something out there?

[Hank]

Oh, no, no, no.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just, Maybe this is just me losing my mind a little. Getting old. Whatever. It feels like it's, it's lighter way earlier.

[Max]

Yeah, like, I noticed that yesterday.

[PFT Commenter]

I know, I know, I know. Obviously. Obviously. No, duh, dude. That's what happens when we switch the clocks, all that. But it feels like even more earlier than usual. I agree. I've been waking up at like 5:40 and been like, did I sleep in? What the.

[Big Cat]

We got like one more month. Right. Of it getting lighter earlier and staying late later. So we're not even done yet.

[PFT Commenter]

Something's up with the sun. Something's going on with the sun.

[Big Cat]

What do you think?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm telling you, I don't know. I. The sun. I'm on to you, bro.

[Big Cat]

Well, this is. It's the second son. You guys know that, right? They really replaced the sun. Yeah. 1970s.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way, no fallout for my alien talk the other day. They didn't do.

[Hank]

Yeah, they're waiting.

[Big Cat]

Maybe you're an alien.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, true.

[Big Cat]

This is actually making more sense now.

[Hank]

Clone Groot week next week. Super excited for Groot Week. And, yeah, there's. I got nothing. I really racked my brain, but I got nothing. I was.

[PFT Commenter]

Was.

[Hank]

You know, it was a long week last week. I was happy to be back. I feel good, feel healthy.

[PFT Commenter]

You. You're finally over. Because you having to go from Max's bachelor party, LA Live show to then a wedding. Like, I don't know how you did that.

[Hank]

No, it was a lot. My. I. I pushed my body to the absolute limit. But then I. I came back Sunday, potted, and then Monday, I just went to, you know, just. There's a. There's a Russian bath house in Chicago. Just went there. Sweated for three hours. Feel like I got all the toxins out of my system. And then.

[PFT Commenter]

And now you get to see your kids today, on Friday?

[Hank]

Yeah. Yeah, I got visitation today.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I don't know if you know how

[PFT Commenter]

we do this show.

[Hank]

No, I know, but.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Daddy's home.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think they remember you?

[Hank]

I hope so.

[Big Cat]

Long weekend with it. You're gonna see.

[Hank]

They're probably gonna be upset with me. It might not go well, but you're

[Big Cat]

not gonna recognize them. You'll be like, I've been gone for so long.

[Hank]

I know.

[Big Cat]

I feel. Do you feel guilty?

[Hank]

Yeah, I. I feel terrible. Whenever I go this long without seeing my kids, it. It like I can't sleep at night. Night.

[Big Cat]

But when you see him, like, the second they see you, it's all worth it.

[PFT Commenter]

And.

[Hank]

Yeah, you just never want to say goodbye. Is it like a. I might just be there for. I might spend 10 hours with my kids.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like a military homecoming.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Should have Hank hide in a box, roll them out to the first tee

[Big Cat]

box his Caddy sees him when he steps out of his car and goes up to him, just jumps in his arms. Missed you.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. So you just. Your life is awesome.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Listen, we do. We do like it. Can't force a fire fest. I have them a lot.

[Big Cat]

Huh.

[Hank]

I got nothing. This week.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, good.

[Hank]

We won softball.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah, I had fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's a great week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I also love that. That's like your number one priority. Like, your priority. Like, everything went good this week. Well, my softball game.

[Hank]

Well, usually, like, things that. The things that happen outside of work that become fire fest. Like, I didn't really do anything. Like, I. I was relaxing outside of work this week, and the one thing we did, we won, so.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Cool.

[Hank]

Handily hit a dong.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he did.

[Big Cat]

Nice. I saw that on the recap inside the park.

[Hank]

Who had a recap?

[PFT Commenter]

The quickest little robot.

[Big Cat]

Are they all inside the park?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Okay, this one almost left, but.

[Big Cat]

But would this have been a home run on most ball fields that have a fence?

[Hank]

Probably. Except for Fenway. Just because it was so.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the monster would have gotten it. Yeah. All right, cool.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Sick.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

My fire fest of the week. I don't really. I'm kind of with Hank on this. But there is something. There is something. Because I've had a pretty good week. And again, like, week coming up next week. I'm so excited. I'm. I'm actually just. I'm so excited to drop the first interview.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm also so excited for Vanny Woodhead, too. Yeah, that's gonna be. We haven't been in a Vanny Woodhead in a long time.

[Hank]

It also feels like doing great week. This time of year feels correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Hank]

And one of my makes it more exciting. I don't know if you guys hear the same way.

[PFT Commenter]

No. Because when we do it in August, there definitely is a feeling of like, okay, we've had a long. You know that we packed some things into the summer, especially last summer was like, we did this. This, this.

[Hank]

This is like a kickoff into something.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'm excited.

[Big Cat]

One of our group fire fest could be that Max is being a big. About Fanny Woodhead terrified to ride in his.

[PFT Commenter]

He's being a baby.

[Big Cat]

He's being a big baby.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you are.

[Big Cat]

You're being a big baby. You're being a bigger baby than. Than Buddha B.

[PFT Commenter]

Was.

[Hank]

He doesn't understand how many hours are in a day.

[PFT Commenter]

You called me into a conference room freaking out that we were not gonna have enough time to drive.

[Max]

I still don't think you guys just love scheduling things and don't think about time.

[PFT Commenter]

It's great week, buddy. You gotta. If we don't sleep, we don't sleep.

[Hank]

You got 24 hours in the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Should we do an all nighter?

[Max]

Yeah, we probably will.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, great.

[Big Cat]

Good. You See the difference?

[Max]

You guys are gonna be cranky.

[PFT Commenter]

Hell no.

[Max]

Hank. What happened when Hank didn't get breakfast one night?

[Big Cat]

Hey, well, guess what? There's a lot of waffle houses, so we can hit those.

[Max]

Love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that might be a group fire fest at PFT announced he's going to eat every meal at Waffle House, which means we have to eat every Waffle House. Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

It's a great idea.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I would like to get some. I mean, we're going to. To New Orleans. I'd like to get some.

[Hank]

Oh, we should do gumball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Last time I came back with a. A kidney filled with gravel.

[Hank]

That's. That's grit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there's. Or I could just eat grits every meal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I probably shouldn't have said that out loud as a mistake to say it out loud, but I do love Waffle House. But the.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Our group firefest Max is being a big baby about grit Week.

[Max]

I'm just. I'm just being a producer and trying to actually plan, and you guys just be like, oh, let's do this.

[Big Cat]

Let's do this, let's do this.

[Max]

I'm like, we don't have enough time today for all this stuff.

[Hank]

The answer is always yes.

[Big Cat]

Down to five.

[PFT Commenter]

Big time.

[Max]

I'm not.

[PFT Commenter]

Week is. Is one week. We just gotta do it, dude. Sack up. Sure, sure, sack up.

[Max]

I'm gonna do it. I just wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of how.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I'm aware how big of a baby you're being.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

You've done a very.

[Max]

Someone's got to do it.

[PFT Commenter]

How cranky you've been.

[Big Cat]

You've raised a lot of. Yeah. Good awareness diaper that I. The actual fire fest that I was going to go with, I realized that I have lot. Like, I was smarter when it came to most things when I was in eighth grade than I am today.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Today.

[PFT Commenter]

And.

[Big Cat]

Oh, definitely I was thinking about, like, obviously math, like 8th grade. Me would run circles around my brain today when it came to, like, any sort of math problem, but science, too, and understanding how to do, like, how to set up any sort of a science experiment to figure something out. Because I've been trying to sort this out. I actually dove into it with, like, a pen and a paper. This week I want to do an experiment, and maybe you guys can help me with this. It could be, I think a good experiment we could do together as a group. Group. Or we could do it in, like a Barcelona after dark setting. But the bottom line is I went out, I bought. I bought breathalyzers, like keychain breathalyzers. And I brought that along with us to Vegas so we could, like. I had Max blow into it a few times. Good numbers by Max, by the way, on that breathalyzer. But it's been my quest to figure out what that golden ratio is for how good you get at a sport determined by. By how slightly buzzed you are. So, like, when you're playing beer pong or you're playing darts, or you're playing a game like that, maybe even golf, my hypothesis is that you have to be between like a.04 and a 0.06, and that's when you achieve, like, the best results.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean, this isn't new. Yeah. When you play beer pong, like you, you suck when you're sober. Exactly. Then you get. And then you get good and then you get bad again.

[Big Cat]

Exactly. So it's been, it's been discussed before, but now that I've got the breathalyzers, I want to do like a scientific experiment.

[Hank]

You gotta get real breathalyzers, though, where we.

[Big Cat]

Well, yeah, I can upgrade. I can always upgrade the breathalyzers, but I want to do like an actual experiment. And I've been trying to figure out how to set up the experiment, and it's escaping me and I can't. I can't nail it down. My idea was like, you shoot 100 shots sober, then you shoot 100 shots after you've had like two beers, then 100 after you've had four beers. But then you might also get better because you've practiced shooting 200 times.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I don't think it's 100. Yeah, it's like it's, it's playing a game. It's like. Yeah, like 10 shots and then have a couple beers, then 10 shots. Yeah, yeah, you can't, you can't do. If you shoot 100 shots, you're going to be better on the second hundred.

[Big Cat]

Right. And then I think we need like a big sample size of people that would be engaging in this.

[PFT Commenter]

You actually. No, you know what you can easily do is you could just do, do 100 shots sober, another 100 shots sober. Another 100 shots sober. So it establishes, like, where, where you get better. Just baseline sober.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then add the drinking.

[Big Cat]

Then you add the drinking, because then,

[PFT Commenter]

then you'll have a good sense.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I feel like this would be a good bar still after dark stream, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I feel like this is. I, I want to do some scientific work on this and See exactly like where the human body peaks physically.

[PFT Commenter]

I like this, this, the, yeah, the, the. The idea of getting of like a eighth grade, you being smarter. I'm like. I'm like a year or two away from my oldest son being smarter than me. And I. I'm terrified of it. They're teaching math in a totally different way too. I don't even understand.

[Big Cat]

Like imagine, Imagine trying to help with algebra two homework.

[Ryan Rosillo]

No, no, no.

[Big Cat]

Or like trigonometry.

[Hank]

I took algebra 2 in college.

[Ryan Rosillo]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, my fire fest is sitting right here in the studio. Because if you listen to the Ryan Rosillo in interview, I gifted him the NBA finals flag that hung in the concourse of Chris Paul's only NBA Finals. I was really hoping he wasn't going to accept the gift so I could hang it in the office. And he has accepted the gift. This is just. I guess this is what what being a good friend means because I was. I was really hoping he'd be like, nah, I don't want it. But he wants it, so I gotta find another one.

[Big Cat]

It's really nice.

[Hank]

Do you think he knows that you wanted that? And so he's just.

[PFT Commenter]

I pretty made it with you. Do you think maybe. No, I think he likes it. I think he want wants it because it's a cool ass thing. Like that's a cool thing to have in your house. NBA finals banner.

[Hank]

You think Ryan Rosilla is putting this up in his house?

[PFT Commenter]

I think he's gonna put it up behind him for the NBA final finals. I do think he will do that. Then maybe he'll send it back.

[Max]

It's not going to fit yet.

[PFT Commenter]

Dude, he's got. You don't think he's like you've never seen.

[Hank]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then awesome.

[Hank]

And then. And then keep it in the box.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, he might send it back. That's I guess my only hope. Yeah, but he also might. It might be like next to his Christmas tree where every year when the NBA finals comes around, he goes to the garage, takes out his NBA Finals banner. We'll get another one.

[Hank]

Yeah, yeah, we need another one.

[PFT Commenter]

We definitely need another one. And then my other fire fest is Max is mad at me because we are undefeated in softball. He yelled at me on the sidelines.

[Big Cat]

Why would he be mad at you?

[Hank]

I thought you guys are joking.

[PFT Commenter]

No, he's mad. He gets mad. He's mad. I understand why he's mad, but also.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, why is he mad? I don't understand.

[PFT Commenter]

I told him he swung Too hard. And he gets, he gets mad whenever I say he was.

[Max]

Well, Big Cat's like the nine year old baseball coach that knows nothing about baseball or swinging it or swinging a bat. So he just does like the squash the bug when he's never played a day. A day of baseball in his life.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that's not true. I definitely, I played all the way through when I was 12 years old. Yeah. Two. Hold on. We're not playing baseball. And that's been my whole entire point. No, it's not. The whole point is it's a 16 inch softball. If you swing as hard as you can against a 16 inch softball, it will always.

[Max]

I have been the best hitter for. I had one bad game and now Big Cat's the, like the, the.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I just said, I just mentioned that you were swinging too hard.

[Max]

But, but you say that to everyone and it, and it drives everyone on our team insane because every single person on our team insane. We haven't lost.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but then we have innings where everyone tries to hit a home run and they hit a popup.

[Max]

But you like you saying that you, you think like no one is trying to get out.

[Big Cat]

This is, you know what this is?

[Max]

No one is. You know nothing. You know nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you, have I played more 16 inch softball than you in your life?

[Max]

It's swinging a bat. Who has swung a bat more in their life?

[PFT Commenter]

It doesn't matter.

[Max]

Times a trillion.

[PFT Commenter]

16 inch softballs. Not baseball. Did you swing too hard last night? No. Yes. No. Where did you go?

[Max]

That is.

[PFT Commenter]

Where did you go?

[Max]

You know, one for five.

[Hank]

Any home runs?

[Big Cat]

Yikes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And he popped out to the first basement twice.

[Big Cat]

Okay, you know what this is.

[Max]

Here's the thing. I am so much better than you.

[PFT Commenter]

I never said you were worked so

[Max]

I know what I'm doing. You do not.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, last night you didn't.

[Max]

I. Yeah, I'm not gonna have a good game every single game. I also made every single play.

[PFT Commenter]

You were great in defense. You could hit a line drive like Laser. Every time.

[Max]

I, I was. The problem was I, I was getting over antsy and I was not letting pitches. I was not looking at pitches. I was swinging at pitches that were get that were going to drop before the plate. That was the problem. I was not swinging too hard. There's anyone. Here's a lesson for all the kids out there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, youngsters, Anyone who tells you that

[Max]

you swing too hard is a fucking loser. Swing the bat.

[PFT Commenter]

Except when it comes to 16 inch

[Max]

softball because the ball moves the ball swing It.

[Big Cat]

Hank, you know what this is? This is. This is AJ Brown and this is Nick Sirianni. That's exactly what.

[Max]

No, because Nick Sirianni's played a lot of football in his life.

[PFT Commenter]

But again, it's not baseball, you idiot. It's. It's the same soccer thing. It's not.

[Max]

Yes, it is.

[Big Cat]

Nick Siriani was never in the NFL. It's not.

[Max]

He played all through college.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not.

[Max]

But you're big Cats didn't play through. He played through 12.

[Big Cat]

You're being a little bit.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I know a lot of 16 inch softball. You're forgetting that part. It's a bad 16 inch soft for 20 years.

[Big Cat]

A little bit of a diva designated hitter.

[Max]

No, no, he's not the coach. Big Cat is not the coach. He's another player on the team.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so now Pete, now you can't like accept any coaching points?

[Max]

Yeah, he's not a coach.

[Big Cat]

But he's still giving you coaching tips.

[Max]

Yes, because he knows better.

[PFT Commenter]

It wasn't even a tip. It was just, he's. I. It was actually just a statement. You swung too hard.

[Max]

But every single like Big Cat is The, the vibes that Big Cat brings when.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, shut up.

[Max]

We have a bad ending is the worst. Because no one else can say it. Say it to him.

[PFT Commenter]

Because first of all, I, I haven't, I haven't said the swing too hard. And last season I said it because the entire roster had never played 16 inch softball before. And the first game, every guy got up and tried to hit as hard as they could and they all popped out. And I was like, guys, 16, softball is not about swinging hard. That's what I said. And I was right. And we're playing better now.

[Big Cat]

This is. It's the Eagles because like your team's winning and you're just making it a terrible experience.

[PFT Commenter]

Sorry. Sorry. I'm competitive. I wanna, I want, I want my, My loot, my hitter to rock it.

[Max]

Yeah. You know how I do that is I, I swing the bad hard.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Okay.

[Max]

I'm not, I'm not gonna go up there like a. I may as well go up there right handed.

[PFT Commenter]

There's.

[Hank]

That's something to think about.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes and Hank, you guys were there. Do you think he swung too hard last night?

[Hank]

He definitely swings too hard.

[Max]

I'm the best hitter on the field.

[PFT Commenter]

He made awesome plays in the field. He actually made a play. He made a play. He made a play going back and catching like a Willie Mays catch. And then threw the ball back and the guy didn't move off of third base. And he goes, I respect his arm. And I was like, yeah, you do. Yeah, you do. So, yeah, it's.

[Big Cat]

We gotta get you a book to read in the D. 4 0, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Though. Yeah. 4 0, 4 0. He did Italian hands at me. That's how mad he was.

[Max]

Well, I mean, it's so annoying when he does it.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I like it when he does the. The. The wizard of Oz argument. Hands where he starts shaking his hands like this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Also for the record, last night, I know that it annoys Max. So I was going to say it no matter what. Like that one.

[Max]

I was going to say it annoys everyone. I'm just.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't say it to anyone else anymore. I don't say it to anyone else. I said I. The only thing I say is, is hit the ball on the ground. And that's a fact. Hank, you play six season softball. Now, if you hit the ball on the ground, usually good things happen.

[Max]

If you're right handed. Yes. Left handed makes that more difficult. It's a lot easier to make the

[Hank]

play unless you're fast.

[PFT Commenter]

When we have our worst innings, it's because we just all try to hit. You're right in the air.

[Hank]

No, I'm just saying like. Yeah, yeah, listen, we're 4 0. Like we, we.

[PFT Commenter]

We're trying to break up this team. Don't try to break up this team.

[Max]

You're the one who breaks up the team.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought we're 4 0.

[Max]

You're the one who breaks up.

[PFT Commenter]

How am I breaking up the team? We're four.

[Max]

Like we.

[PFT Commenter]

I only said it to you last game.

[Max]

And then you just like to make content out of it and everyone content out of it.

[PFT Commenter]

It's only you. You keep saying everyone. I only said it to you because I.

[Max]

Because I told you to stop saying it to everyone. Because everyone else was getting pissed off that when you. That you were saying.

[PFT Commenter]

I only said it to you. And I only said it. Hank, is this true?

[Hank]

I don't. Yeah, pissed off. I think you're the only one that gets hacked.

[Max]

You don't talk to the guys like I do.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, but I only said it one time last year. The first game.

[Max]

That's a lie.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh my God, Hank.

[Max]

That's a lie. One time.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe a couple times. Cuz we hit it.

[Max]

Hank to in admit that he's li.

[PFT Commenter]

A couple times? You did it like a game last year. A couple.

[Max]

A couple times a game?

[PFT Commenter]

No, no.

[Max]

A couple times a game.

[PFT Commenter]

So everyone Hates me on the team is what you're saying. No, you're pretty much your same.

[Max]

They hate when you.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I don't know.

[Hank]

I. I don't talk to the guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes. You talk to the guys. Everyone's complaining about memes.

[Hank]

Talk to the guys. Max.

[PFT Commenter]

No, they like you. Okay.

[Max]

They. But they don't like when you're.

[Big Cat]

Like who.

[Max]

When you stop swinging. Everyone.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank's everyone. Memes is everyone.

[Max]

I'm. No, you're the one who's trying to

[Big Cat]

bring this team down.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I'm saying you said everyone. And I have two guys sitting right

[Max]

here who have no problem.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not.

[Max]

I'm.

[Hank]

Shane almost quit last year because you kept second.

[PFT Commenter]

He did it. He did.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He's pissed. He was really that pissed.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Shane also wears two batting gloves. Not anymore.

[Max]

We shamed him out of it.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you get the most mad by far. And then you are.

[Hank]

Sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, you. You were. You were yelling at me last night.

[Max]

Because I'm the only one who. Who's going to say anything.

[Big Cat]

You're not understand. Because he's taking on all the complaints from every. All the guys on the team.

[PFT Commenter]

I also haven't said it this year. Year. I literally said it the first time last night because Max did swing too hard. I've not said it this year.

[Big Cat]

Memes. Does Max swing too hard?

[PFT Commenter]

Max can do whatever he wants. He's so good.

[Big Cat]

It sounds like everyone's intimidated Max.

[PFT Commenter]

That is true.

[Big Cat]

Everyone's afraid to say anything to Max.

[PFT Commenter]

We've had two games this year where nobody hit except Max.

[Max]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And he won us the game.

[Big Cat]

So he did. He could do whatever he wants. Can't wait to eat grits next week.

[PFT Commenter]

Big Cat and Hank did scoff at

[Ryan Rosillo]

the lineup before the game started.

[Zach]

All right.

[Big Cat]

If we're just doing complaints, I mean,

[PFT Commenter]

whoever made the lineup put our best hitters at the bottom of the lineup. And I don't. We run.

[Max]

They. I think I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I was hitting five. I. Not one of our best hitters.

[Max]

The person who put him. That was Brian's. The one who made the lineup. And he put himself at the bottom of the lineup.

[Big Cat]

Sometimes it's good to have like a. A. A second leadoff batter at the end.

[Max]

No, he said that he just wasn't hitting well. So he wanted the punch. Punish himself.

[Hank]

I also just like to scoff.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. True. You are a scoffer.

[Big Cat]

Scoff law.

[PFT Commenter]

And we are four zero.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You would.

[Max]

You would think that we haven't won A game?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's not true. I. I said we were 4 0.

[Hank]

It's the Eagles.

[PFT Commenter]

Two things can be true.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You guys are the worst 40 softball team of all time. The vibes couldn't be worse.

[PFT Commenter]

Screaming at me, he was like, yeah, never. Because I.

[Max]

You're.

[PFT Commenter]

You're so. You're being a baby now.

[Max]

Now you're a baby. We were up eight runs, and you're like, hey, man, you really gotta stop.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually. That's not true. That's not true. I said it after because I knew it would piss you off. And I said, you swaying too hard.

[Big Cat]

We got a baby.

[Max]

Well, like, how did. How was that. How was that good for the team?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it was just for you. I didn't say to anyone else.

[Max]

Yeah, how is that good?

[PFT Commenter]

Because. Don't you funny. Don't you're having this conversation, Max.

[Max]

Don't you want to be not funny?

[Hank]

I was. I was laughing.

[PFT Commenter]

There you go. Everyone ever. I talked to everyone on the team. They laughed.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Now you don't talk to the people

[Hank]

on the team like Max does.

[Max]

Big Cat has got beers with the guys one single. One time.

[PFT Commenter]

How many times you got beers?

[Max]

Every single game.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. And I. I have three kids, and I, I, I got 18. Sorry, I've only played three games. Hank's got 18, so I've missed Spears three times. My bad.

[Max]

Hank's got 18 kids.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, why would I get beers anyway?

[Max]

Look at Hank in the. With the thing around Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Why would I get beers? Max told me that everyone doesn't like me.

[Max]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Why would I get beers?

[Max]

I said, people.

[Hank]

I wonder if there's probably a group text.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, definitely. Definitely.

[Big Cat]

Like, you know, Matt, you should. You should chug slower.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Actually, you never chugged in your life.

[Big Cat]

Dude, you'd enjoy that beer more if you drank it.

[Max]

No, Big Cat's much better chugger than me. I wouldn't tell him how to chug.

[PFT Commenter]

I wouldn't get upset if you did. Yeah, you would. No.

[Big Cat]

Yes, I would.

[PFT Commenter]

I would say. I would just be like, okay, I'll chug faster.

[Max]

That's why.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, 16 inch softball's not baseball.

[Big Cat]

That's productive.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's actually bad. We're in a bad spot now.

[Max]

Yeah, no, now, now, now what you just did is you just ru. You just ruined our best hitter. Because now every time I'm gonna be up there, I'm just gonna be thinking about you.

[Big Cat]

No, I like it. He's Ricky Henderson. Now he's talking third person.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I never said.

[Max]

I never said my name.

[Big Cat]

I know, but you refer to yourself like you. You know what you just said? You just ruined our best hitter.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Meaning you.

[Max]

He just did. Because now it's going to be a thing, and I'm gonna, like, pop out in the first inning of the next game, and I'm just gonna look on this on the bench, and he's gonna have this stupid. I might not play. I might. I might be done. Because he's gonna have this stupid grin on his face, and I. And I know it. He has the same grin every single time. He doesn't even say anything. And it's. That's what.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, no. I can't exist. Oh, Hank, I. I understand what you're saying now. I can't even exist. I can't even. I can't even enjoy being out there with the boys.

[Max]

I. I may as well. I'll just be designated fielder next game. I'm not gonna hit.

[Big Cat]

That's a lie.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, Well, I mean, but both of us are out because I. Everyone has hates me on the team, so I'm out.

[Max]

I said everyone hates when you tell them how to swing.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a difference. I know.

[Max]

This year, I actually agree. You haven't. You haven't done it this year because I told you not to do it.

[Big Cat]

And he said. Yeah, listen.

[Hank]

So you're the coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So sounds like I can take coaching. But you can't, because you told me not to say it anymore. I stopped saying it.

[Max]

That's true.

[PFT Commenter]

I told you to stop swinging so hard, and you're gonna keep swinging so hard.

[Max]

That's one of them. Is not coaching.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't.

[Max]

I'm coaching you on how.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, Big Cat makes a good point, Coach, which is that he. He heard criticism and. And he adapted with it.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

You hear criticism, you cover up both ears, and you're like, nobody's better than me. I'm the strongest boy. It's me, Max. I'm so strong.

[Max]

Big Cat is.

[Hank]

I. I had a home run with poopy Pants once.

[Max]

I did do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, I think you're really good at softball.

[Max]

No, I'm done with you.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you're really good at softball. Dude. Dude, you are. You're fucking next.

[Max]

Fire Monster. What do you got for us?

[Hank]

Finish us off.

[Zach]

My face. This week's gonna be a quick one. I'm. I'm just. You know, I'm three days into a lifestyle change, and I Just can't stop thinking about knish. It's kind of consumed me. There's a deli down the street from my house. I was open up to the world of knish. Probably about three weeks ago, it became a mainstay. Honestly, almost thought about converting because it's my. It may be my favorite food of all time.

[PFT Commenter]

It's so good.

[Ryan Rosillo]

It's one. It was good.

[Hank]

What is it? Because I don't even know.

[Zach]

I don't really know what's in the middle. I do like the savory. It's like a meat situation and the potato on the outside.

[PFT Commenter]

Sometimes, like potato with dough around. It's like a. Almost like a fried pierogi or like a. Like, it's. It's a bread and then potatoes in the middle or meat. It's good.

[Big Cat]

Good.

[Zach]

They're like, maybe baseball sized. You can get a tray really quick from this place down the street. And I just. I keep thinking about them, like, late night, and I don't know if it's an issue or how I'm going to overcome this. And I kind of wish I never ran into them.

[PFT Commenter]

It's like a. It's like the cousin of pierogi and the cousin of a empanada.

[Hank]

You said convert. What is the convert to? Yeah, I was gonna say just for the conditions.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you might. I mean, it'll solve itself on Saturday, right? There won't be open.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Zach]

They do have weird hours, which. Which is not my favorite part about it. Like, sometimes in the middle of the week, they'll be like, oh, we close at 3. Which I didn't really see coming because there was a couple days where, like, towards the end of the day. You ever look forward to something when you get home? Yeah, I was looking forward to, like, oh, I'll get a five pack when I get home. And this can be fantastic. And they were closed, so I didn't really know where to pivot from there. I probably can get over this hurdle, but for right now, I'm absolutely in the knish zone. And that's my fyre festival week.

[Big Cat]

I do love that. That every culture has figured out about, like, their version of this dish. Like the kolache or the hot pocket. They got the knish. That looks so good. So are they potato knishes? Do they all have potatoes in them? And then something else, from my experience,

[Zach]

all potatoes on the outside and then inside, like meat.

[Max]

I don't think I've ever had a meat knish. I've only ever had just the potato One. It's like the ones I had are like mashed potatoes on the inside, and then, like, a fry made some sort of dough on the outside.

[Big Cat]

Do you dip them?

[Zach]

There's sauce on the side, but I have yet to dip.

[Big Cat]

See, that's. I would. I would start to explore the sauces. That seems like an entire new lane, too.

[Zach]

I feel like the sauce could take away from the integrity, though.

[Big Cat]

Just raw dog and the kanishes.

[Zach]

Yeah. When they're warm and honestly, when they're

[Big Cat]

cold, they do look pretty good.

[Max]

You've never had a knish? Pft.

[Big Cat]

I don't think I have.

[Max]

There's big, long, big, long island thing. There's a lot of good knishes in Long Island.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Ryan Rosillo]

My mom would make them and then

[PFT Commenter]

stuff them with cheese.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Really good.

[Big Cat]

It does look good. I've been a big pierogi guy. I'm a big kolachi guy. Nothing better.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Maybe.

[Big Cat]

Maybe Kineshes.

[Zach]

But all the filled foods are bad for you. All some of the filled foods are the best foods, and they're bad for you.

[Big Cat]

Gushers.

[Zach]

We got to pivot. We got to find a way.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And it starts here.

[Big Cat]

How many conditions are you putting down a day?

[Zach]

Initially, it was just two with the sandwich, but then I just start. The sandwich is okay. So I just started ditching the sandwich and just going a seven pack.

[Big Cat]

A seven pack of canishes.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But they look pretty big.

[Zach]

One meal a day. Just. You know what I mean?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So when you're. Yeah.

[Hank]

Big cat has texted the spring pugs and said, I just want to apologize. Max said everyone on the team secretly hates my guts for saying, don't swing too hard last year, when a lot of you guys are playing 16 inch for the first time.

[PFT Commenter]

Time.

[Hank]

Really sorry. Won't ever do it again.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's coachable, right?

[Hank]

Has replied, I hate this guy. I think that was. That was supposed to be in your separate group text. That with the one with the guys who actually talk to.

[Big Cat]

Oh, this separate group text is firing off right now.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah. Oh, that's.

[Hank]

I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that Hank? I mean, like.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I apologize. Yeah. Like, my bad. Oh, Hank loved it up. And thank you. Appreciate that. I feel seen.

[Big Cat]

Wait, I'm about to. I'm about to lob a grenade in here.

[PFT Commenter]

This is where P. Is.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Just in the group.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he. He was on the roster. He just was on the.

[Big Cat]

I. I retired. I did a. Aaron Rogers retired before the season started.

[PFT Commenter]

Jack wants to know if you can chew nab with him after. Absolutely not. One time it told me he swung too hard.

[Big Cat]

I just asked Quigs's bot that he has in there if there's a second group chat without Big Cat that makes sense. Let's see what AI says about this.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, there we go. He responded. No comment on the second chat question. Yeah, big catches, but he's not enough buying the beer. So we tolerate it.

[Hank]

Is that true?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I paid for the team. Big Hat paid for the league. So yeah, he can overcoach. I don't overcoach. I just.

[Big Cat]

But Gibby just said he did.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Big woke his last night. He told back. All right. Good show, boys. Wait. Oh, Gibby replied.

[Max]

You already said that. This chat's. This bot sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

Big Cat. Don't sweat it. Max needs to hear this more than anyone. Stop over swing. You're right. Last year and you're right now. He went 2 for 2 for infield flies yesterday trying to kill the ball. That's the problem. Give him the same advice. That's the AI chat.

[Big Cat]

Say hi, Chat.

[PFT Commenter]

I also keep trying to get the AI chat to call 911. I keep trying to command it and Quigs gets freaks out every time. Okay, good show, numbers 11. Shane's on the team. Shane. Everyone hate me on the team.

[Max]

I see. This is where you just. You just change what I say.

[PFT Commenter]

Does everyone hate that? I. I told last year. I told them that their song too hard.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I haven't heard anything about it till. Matt.

[PFT Commenter]

I haven't said it this year.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Yeah, I didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't say it like maybe a couple times. Yeah, a couple times last year. I did not say it.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Everybody.

[Max]

I just said a couple times. Hank. If you listen to what Hank said, he said you said it a couple times a game.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I don't say. I think I said it a couple times a game.

[Ryan Rosillo]

I only played spring last year.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's also like. What? I'm just saying it out loud. Don't swing too hard.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Who cares?

[PFT Commenter]

You can just not listen. Except Max does listen and gets mad. Yep.

[Max]

I'm happy that you just ruined our team. We're probably not gonna win another game.

[PFT Commenter]

This is great.

[Max]

I'm happy you do this every year. I did not do this every year.

[PFT Commenter]

I did this last year.

[Ryan Rosillo]

Oh, yeah?

[PFT Commenter]

How did I ruin the team last year?

[Max]

We would. Oh, you want to ask Tom Light?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And then we won after that.

[Max]

No, we didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, we did. No, Big Cat wasn't at the game where Tom took A tumble.

[Big Cat]

Thank you.

[Hank]

That was me.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, thank you.

[Hank]

But also so warranted.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

Thank you. Looks like Max is in un trustworthy narrator here.

[Big Cat]

Looks like Hank ruined the team.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So take it back, Max. The. The comic fall was not me. I did not bring that back.

[Max]

This is the one thing that we do without content. And then. And then we just have to make a content every single.

[PFT Commenter]

This is barely content.

[Max]

We just did the last 20 minutes.

[PFT Commenter]

It's an argument between the two of us.

[Max]

Won 18 to 6. I made every single play in the field. I went one to five. And it's like.

[PFT Commenter]

Like 18 to 10.

[Big Cat]

I went. I did this, I did that.

[Max]

Yes, because he is the one criticizing me.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not criticizing you.

[Max]

What do you mean you're not criticizing me?

[PFT Commenter]

I said you swear.

[Max]

Like, what the is that? Then how is that not Criticism?

[PFT Commenter]

Our numbers. 1577.

[Max]

I'm quitting. I'm done.

[PFT Commenter]

No, stop, stop.

[Hank]

I'm done.

[Max]

Stop.

[Big Cat]

Way quit.

[Hank]

What finals is this? 21 finals.

[Big Cat]

That'll. That'll show coach that I'm serious. I'll quit.

[Max]

Yeah, he's not the coach. BFD. He's not the coach. 56.

[Hank]

Oh, great.

[PFT Commenter]

And it will be got three. Three. Is that you? What you say mean? You didn't say three. All right, 11, switch it up.

[Big Cat]

Let's see one more.

[Max]

Three. Three.

[Ryan Rosillo]

21.

[Hank]

21. 21.

[PFT Commenter]

52. 52.

[Big Cat]

No one. Happy birthday to Ray Lewis, Emit Smith, Ryan Leaf, John Smoltz. And then Saturday, happy birthday Gardner Minu. Happy birthday to Janet Jackson and Megan Fox. Also on Saturday, shout out Megan Fox memes.

[PFT Commenter]

I got nothing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's right.

[PFT Commenter]

What matter?

[Big Cat]

Gotcha.

[PFT Commenter]

Murder.

[Hank]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Murder. He was a good guy.

[Big Cat]

Love you guys.