Super Bowl 60, Seahawks Dominant Win, Sam Darnold SB Winner, Hank's Recap From Santa Clara And Soggy Sorrows + Who's Back Of The Week

Summary

Pardon My Take: Super Bowl 60 Recap – Seahawks Dominant Win, Darnold’s Redemption, and Hank’s Soggy Sorrows

Podcast: Pardon My Take
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Date: February 9, 2026
Episode Focus: Recapping Super Bowl 60 – The Seattle Seahawks’ dominant championship win over the New England Patriots, Sam Darnold’s breakthrough, full game breakdown, on-the-ground insight from Hank in Santa Clara, and a classic “Who's Back of the Week.”

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the Seattle Seahawks’ dominant Super Bowl 60 victory, making Sam Darnold a Super Bowl-winning QB, and discussing head coach Mike Macdonald’s defensive wizardry. The hosts and contributors break down key plays, emotional moments, and storylines, particularly focusing on Hank’s fan experience in Santa Clara and the postgame aftermath for both winners and losers. The episode is light-hearted, self-deprecating, and full of classic PMT banter, with recurring segments like the “Who’s Back of the Week” and an extended Q&A/roast session for Hank.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Super Bowl 60 Recap & “Boomers Fastest Two Minutes” (04:48–08:15)

• Opening Banter:

  • Hosts joke about the Pepsi Challenge and their sponsorships, then reveal the Seahawks are Super Bowl champs.
  • Zach delivers a tongue-in-cheek "Boomers Fastest Two Minutes" with a mix of NFL references and wordplay, poking fun at everything from Jason Myers’ big kicks to Sam Darnold’s QB redemption (05:06–06:30).

• Notable Quotes:

  • Zach: “Sam Ronald McDonald throws a double cheese touchdown, please, to A.J. Barners and Noble who reads between the Patriots defensive lines quicker than those disclaimers on medication commercials.” (05:40)
  • Big Cat: “The Seahawks are Super Bowl champions. An absolute masterclass by Mike Macdonald. His defense, Kenneth Walker, Super Bowl MVP, Jason Myers…It was an ass kicking.” (08:11)

2. The Seahawks’ Dominance, Darnold’s Story, and Defensive Genius (08:15–11:58)

• Seattle was “just dominant throughout the playoffs,” described as “worthy champions—start to finish.”
• PFT: "As thoroughly dominant a Super Bowl performance as I can recall in the last 11 months and 30 days."
• Sam Darnold becomes the first QB from the 2018 draft class to win a Super Bowl—hosts reflect on his “pumpkin-to-prince” narrative and the shift in his reputation.
• Seahawks under Macdonald: allowed only 46 points during the playoffs, “the best team in the league.”

3. Patriots Fan Experience – Hank’s Recap from Santa Clara (12:02–25:06)

• Hank joins live, emotionally recaps the surreal atmosphere in the Patriots suite, pregame excitement, and heartbreak.
• Party bus, suite food (crab roll sliders, mortadella, popcorn), and celeb sightings (Mark Davis, Gavin Newsom, Jim Gray).
• Mark Davis’ suite antics: “I said what up to him, said we’d love to have you on the show. He just kind of shook his head.” (15:56)
• On the game: Patriots defense kept them in it, hope at halftime despite being down, but “the third quarter was a disaster.”
• Halftime show: Hank’s harsh review—“That halftime performance was so bad, I might have changed my stance on international football forever.” (21:28)
• Bad Bunny discourse—PMT contemplates the NFL’s push for an international audience. “This is America. This is a Super Bowl. Give me someone else.” (22:33)

4. Breaking Down the Game – Key Plays, Missed Opportunities, and Turning Points (25:06–37:10)

• Hank details emotional swing: confidence early, turning to despair in the third quarter after Patriots’ three-and-out and a costly Drake May fumble (“That’s where my dreams died.” – 29:42).
• Discussion of key non-challenged plays (Cooper Kupp sideline catch) and Pats’ failure to capitalize.
• Criticism of coaching and missed opportunities: “Why didn’t Mike Vrabel go for two?” (31:18)
• Patriots defensive highlights: Christian Gonzalez’s close-call interceptions and pass deflections.
• Final official KO moment: “The pick-six...that was the killer.” (34:36)

5. Q&A: “Hank’s Soggy Sorrows” Press Conference (37:56–54:20)

• In a recurring bit, the crew takes turns grilling Hank with questions both serious and trolling:

  • Would Josh Dobbs have been a better option over Drake May at QB? (38:10)
  • Comparing the Pats’ playoff run to last year’s Commanders: "No, Pats made it to the Super Bowl." (39:53)
  • Reflections on the 40% chance the Pats could keep it close—Big Cat and PFT self-congratulate on predictive skills.
  • Discussion around May’s fumble “itis” and offensive line struggles (“Will Campbell gave up 14 pressures—most by any player in the league this season.” – 71:45)
  • Hank acknowledges Seahawks’ defense: “As a ball knower, I’m not putting it on Drake May. I’m giving credit to the Seahawks.” (49:06)
  • Honest admission: “It’s gonna stick with me, probably until we win the Super Bowl.” (50:02)

• Memorable Moment: Both PFT and Hank agree to do “Soggy Sorrows”—getting soaking wet, on camera, in their showers as penance for losing money and the big game (52:13–54:24).

6. Post-Mortem: Seahawks Dynasty, Darnold’s Arc, and Roster Construction (59:32–70:45)

• Praise for Seahawks GM John Schneider and Head Coach Mike Macdonald for rapid rebuild and defensive innovation:

  • “Mike Macdonald is the first defensive-minded head coach since Pete Carroll (2013) to win a Super Bowl (non-Belichick).”
  • Defensive stats: Seahawks allowed –27 EPA, six sacks, two INTs, fumble recovery, and a TD.
  • Seahawks’ investment in special teams pays dividends.

• Sam Darnold’s journey from being left for dead to winning the big one: “I’m not done believing in Sam Darnold yet.” – Big Cat (72:25)

• Playoff turnover-free football: “The Seahawks went through the entire run without a turnover. That’s how you win.” (70:37)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "As thoroughly dominant a Super Bowl performance as I can recall in the last 11 months and 30 days. It was domination from start to finish." – PFT (08:15)
• On Hank’s mood: “You got dreams. You got visions of glory and partying with the team and going to Disney World...and then it was over. It fucking sucks.” – Hank (43:17)
• On halftime show: “That halftime performance was so bad, I might have changed my stance on international football forever.” – Hank (21:28)
• On Darnold’s arc: "I'm not done believing in Sam Darnold yet." – Big Cat (72:25)
• "Mike Macdonald is a defensive wizard." – Big Cat (60:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------|--------------| | Pepsi Challenge & Fastest 2 Minutes | 00:00–08:15 | | Seahawks’ Dominant Recap | 08:15–11:58 | | Hank’s Patriots Fan Experience | 12:02–25:06 | | Game’s Key Plays & Turning Points | 25:06–37:10 | | Extended Q&A / Roast Hank | 37:56–54:20 | | Soggy Sorrows | 52:13–54:24 | | Seahawks Dynasty & Roster Build | 59:32–70:45 |

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Who’s Back of the Week (97:19+)

• PFT: College basketball, with a “Jordan of the Year” moment spotted at Duke-UNC.
• Big Cat: Lindsey Vonn (concerns for her Olympic performance and health).
• Zach: Space travel and potential moon colonies.
• Max: “Hank Toys” – A playful reference to publicity around show merch in the wake of the Super Bowl L.

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Language & Tone

As always, the PMT crew is:

• Self-aware and irreverent: Pokes harsh fun at fandom, themselves, and each other.
• Sports-nerdy: Deep dives, smart stats, raw emotion, “ball-knower” takes.
• Emotional, but tongue-in-cheek: Particularly around Hank’s heartbreak and “soggy sorrows,” but also quick to lavish praise (esp. for the Seahawks’ historic run).

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Takeaways For New Listeners

• The PMT crew combines real football analysis (with stat and “ball knowing” cred) with humor, emotional reactions, and behind-the-scenes fan perspectives.
• Super Bowl 60 goes down as a defensive masterclass: Seahawks dominate every phase, finally have a “redemption story” QB in Sam Darnold.
• Great insight on the emotional roller coaster for both fans and gamblers on the losing end.
• Recurring show jokes (soggy sorrows, “fastest two minutes,” endless self-suckery) and dynamic chemistry between hosts.
• Good-natured (if relentless) ribbing makes this a relatable, cathartic listen for football diehards and casual fans alike.

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Summary Table: Super Bowl 60’s Legacy

| Seahawks | Patriots | Darnold | Macdonald | |-------------------------|-----------------------------|-------------------------|--------------------------| | Dominant, historic run | Outclassed, defense tried | First 2018 draftee SB | Defensive genius | | Defense record-setting | No solutions for pass rush | Reputation turn | “Sean McVay of defense” | | Turnover-free playoffs | Drake May overwhelmed | Not carried, “part of” | Adjusts every week |

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For the Record

“They were fundamentally so sound and so buttoned up in all aspects of the game, in all three phases.” – Big Cat (70:37)

“I just love when Duke loses. They can’t just lose. They have to make it about something.” – Big Cat (101:54; during Who’s Back)

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If you missed the episode, this recap will give you a full handle on the content, comedy, and analysis that defines Pardon My Take's Super Bowl week.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

They covered up both, so I don't know which one's which. I'm all about self discovery. You know that big cat. I want to find out a little bit more about myself here. My Pepsi guy or my Coke Zero guy. Zero sugar and Coke Zero. Okay, I'm gonna go right first.

[A]

Okay. Can A or can B. Which one did you try first?

[B]

Try can B first.

[A]

Okay, I'll try can A first.

[B]

Can B is pretty good.

[A]

I'm gonna say. I don't really like can.

[B]

Hey, I'm gonna say it. I might be wrong. Max, you were the only one that got this wrong.

[C]

Right?

[D]

We don't have to bring that up.

[B]

I hope that I'm right because I'm about to say something. Yeah, it's can be and it's not close.

[A]

It's can be all day, every day for me. And I'm gonna reveal. Here we go. Can A is on your left. I'm gonna reveal what can A is for me. I'm, I'm, I'm. My official votes. Can B. I like Can B. Can A is Coke Zero sugar.

[B]

So you got it right.

[A]

Can B is Pepsi zero sugar. Nailed it.

[B]

I'm going to reveal the one that I liked. It was. It was. Can be the one on my right. We're. Take it out.

[A]

Take it out. What do you got?

[C]

I knew it. I knew it.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

That's a Pepsi zero sugar. And can A is on the losing bracket. That's tough. Tough break for for Coke Zero, but Pepsi zero sugar, hands down. Not even close.

[A]

So go out and try Pepsi zero sugar today. Let your taste decide and take the Pepsi Challenge thank you. To Pepsi. Okay, let's go.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, February 9th and it is Super Bowl 60. Some spread, some spread the schwarm back.

[B]

On the grounds of Candlestick park where a young swamp solve the catch and.

[A]

We we head out to Santa Clara where I our guy Zach, he's out of the hotel room. No longer has 105 degree fever. What? He's ready to go.

[E]

Zach in Dundas, San Francisco. Early on it's all Jason Myers Derulo hitting what you say?

[A]

Feel go kick so day.

[E]

Well, of course he did what you say?

[B]

Oh, what you say? Kink and feel guaday.

[E]

But wait. Sam Ronald McDonald throws a double cheese touchdown please. To AJ Barners and Noble who reads between the Patriots defensive lines quicker than those disclaimers on medication commercials resulting in.

[A]

A Seahawks 6 points.

[E]

Shortly after Aubrey Drake mate Graham was thinking, no new friends, no new friends. No new friends. No, no, no.

[A]

What a toss to his pal Mac Hollands. They sauce Collins who poaches the pass.

[E]

Bringing it down to the end zone for six points. Finally, Coma sedice Draco Malfoy may gets muy caliente shouting scare Donald as he drops back and airs one out.

[B]

Step to step by step.

[E]

Day by Ramandre. A fresh start over different down to play.

[A]

The deeper Drake drops, the shorter he slings.

[E]

Maybe they'll be better the second time around. Seahawks 29, Patriots 13.

[A]

Great job, Zach. Incredible job. Tough to do a boomer on that game. Let's just say that. Lot of. Lot of field goals.

[B]

What?

[E]

All the field goals.

[A]

Boom.

[B]

That was a great job, Zach.

[A]

All right, thanks.

[B]

Boom.

[A]

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[B]

Ass kicking. As thoroughly dominant a Super bowl performance as I can recall in the last 11 months and 30 days. It was. It was domination from start to finish. Like, the score ended up not being as close. Like, the score looks a lot closer than the game was. It doesn't do it justice.

[A]

Yeah. Because it was.

[B]

It was ugly early. It was ugly middle. It was ugly late.

[A]

The. The. The Seahawks, it felt like in the fourth quarter, they're like, hey, we just. We just got to get this game over with. Through three quarters, the Patriots had 78 total yards of offense and five first downs. That's what they were doing to them. Hank is here. We're gonna break down the game after Hank leaves a little bit more and give all the credit to the Seahawks, who they deserve a ton of credit, and. And all the storylines. And I'm so happy for Sam Darnold. Like, just everything about this team has been. They were just dominant throughout the playoffs, this entire season, worthy champions, start to finish.

[B]

They were the best team in the regular season. Every team not named the Rams put together averaged 14 points against the Seahawks. The Rams averaged just over 28 points against the Seahawks. They were the one team that could do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And in the playoffs, that just. That trend kept continuing on, and they doubled up their opponents. They scored over 100 points. They allowed 46 points total during the playoffs. They were the best team in the league, so a deserving champion.

[A]

Yeah. And Sam Darnold. I like it. Just so happy for. I mean, it's crazy to think about that. In the 2018 draft, you had the. It was Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. He is the first one to win a Super bowl, obviously. Josh Rosenberg as well. I don't think he's gonna win a Super Bowl. First one to win a Super bowl. Out of that group. It also is.

[B]

He might actually be the first to win one as an owner.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

One day he might just make a ton of money in commercial real estate.

[A]

Yeah. Josh Rosen. Yeah. The. It's also fitting for Sam Darnold because it felt like the last two years we basically spent being like, will he turn back into a pumpkin? Then you had the end of last year happen. It's like, up. See that Sam Donald. Then. Then this year happens. Like, oh, maybe it's different. He has the NFC Championship game, which was his defining win as a quarterback in terms of how he played. He played a perfect game, and pretty much everyone in the world was like, Sam Darnold. Like, he. He wins a big game, he's not going to turn back into a pumpkin. Except Patriots fans who he's facing in the Super Bowl. Being like, we know Sam Darnold. He's the guy who sees ghosts. So the final hurdle of beating a team and getting everyone to switch the narrative of Sam Darnold, you can win a Super bowl with that guy. He does it. And yeah, it wasn't the, like, you know, he didn't have to put his team on the back, but he did do it. Going like, it's not a Trent Dilfer situation. It's not one of those. Along for the ride. Peyton Manning, 2015, the way he won the NFC championship game cannot be forgotten because that was probably the Super Bowl. So it. It was that. I'm just so happy for him.

[B]

I'm very happy for Sam Darnold.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Very happy for Seahawks fans. Very happy for the current ownership group who will now get to put up for sale a Super bowl champion team. Price of the bag just went up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For the Seahawks.

[A]

Big time.

[B]

Big time. If you want to buy a trophy, Bill Gates, you're in Seattle. You don't have a trophy wife.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe you get some other issues.

[B]

You're used to scouting 19 year olds, Bill Gates. Maybe get some good publicity for a change. Yeah. This is.

[A]

You wouldn't be the only owner.

[B]

This was dominant. Yeah, this was. This was a dominant performance. And there's. There'll be plenty of time to have the conversation. I don't want to be the one to start it, but when the two teams made it to the super bowl after the championship games, we said there would be the discussion of if this was the worst team to ever play in the Super Bowl. For the Patriots, I don't want to be the first to have the discussion, but other. Other people will ask this question. Is this the worst team to ever play in the super bowl in regards to the New England Patriots?

[A]

Hank, Hello? Are you there? Oh, hey, Hank.

[C]

What's up? What's up, guys?

[B]

How you doing?

[A]

You good?

[C]

I'm. I'm. Yeah, I'm here.

[E]

I'm here.

[A]

Did you hear everything we said?

[C]

I've been listening. Yep. I've heard you guys. I don't. I think the answer is no.

[A]

Pft.

[C]

But I don't. I don't have stats, so you can already ask me. Oh, what about stats? I don't have any. I'm gonna go with no, though.

[B]

Okay, well, I. I would agree with you because the Patriots, they did. They scored 13 points one other time in the Super Bowl. Right. And they beat the Rams.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, the. The. The Patriots defense came to play like they. Sam Darnold I will give credit. Sam Darnold. I was one of those people that thought he was going to turn into a pumpkin. He had some throws early in the game that, like, it felt like the Patriots were right there. Tip balls, you know, had the. Had the DBs, like, coming in. Felt like they were going to pick him off. The Gonzalez play at the end of the half, thought that was going to be an interception. So it felt. I, like, I felt like it was coming all night and never did. But he played well. He did play well. And.

[A]

Yeah, walk us through the. Let's just go through the whole day. Let's go through the vibes. You know, what time you got to the stadium, the suite, what did you eat in the suite, what your thoughts are throughout the game. We want to hear it all.

[C]

I'm not gonna lie.

[A]

The.

[C]

The vibes were so high. The vibes. Like, at one point I was like, I feel like I, you know, we live a life of surrealness after surrealness after surrealness. It's just a constant stream of surreal moments after surreal moments. And I did have a point in the suite where I was like, this cannot be my life right now. Like, I cannot believe I'm in this suite. It's perfect weather. We're two hours before the kick of the Super Bowl. I'm with my favorite people. This is unbelievable. Before that, though, even, because obviously it's an hour, hour plus drive. We took a bus, so we took a party bus with 20 Patriots fans. Shout out to Dave, one of the. I mean, just like, so generous to bring all the. All the Patriots fans from barstool to the game. So we're on a. We're on a party bus with 20 people blasting music, getting ready to go. Everyone's excited, everyone's fired up, everyone's high fiving each other. Just really, really excited. Walk in, get to the suite. No, no hiccups either. No traffic. We park, we walk, you know, 15 minutes, walk right into the stadium. No issues getting in. No, no. No delays, nothing. Just get right in. And then we're just in a suite and it's like, oh, my God, like, we're playing for the super bowl in three hours. What is better than this? And yeah, I did. I did truly. I did truly have a moment where I was like, I was maybe tearing up a little bit, and I was like, I just. I cannot believe this is my life. Like, this is. This is. I could not. I actually could not believe that it was real life. That's how amazing it was.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Before the Game.

[B]

It seemed like a very cool environment. I do want to ask about. About Dr. Hank, because Dr. Hank did report pregame that Drake man was getting warmed up, slinging missiles.

[C]

Yeah, you're welcome. Mission accomplished.

[A]

Who to who? Who?

[C]

Who you guys been begging for Dr. Hank?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have. I would have preferred a lab coat on your. Your Twitter profile, but. Yeah. Yeah, no, that was good. Dr. Hank showed up now. So you're at the suite. Were you next to Mark Davis? Yep.

[C]

Mark Davis was in the suite next to us.

[A]

We were.

[C]

I actually don't know if we can say this on the air, but yes, Mark Davis was in the suite next to us.

[A]

What? What?

[C]

I don't. I'm. I. It's not for air, so I'm not going to say it.

[A]

Who was.

[B]

I don't understand why.

[A]

It's not fair. You didn't text us anything throughout the game. I.

[C]

Well, no, Gaz.

[B]

I know.

[C]

Gaz asked, I guess, sent me the picture of Mark Davis. He's like, you want me to send the big ass? Like. Yeah, to send it to him. I knew, obviously, that he sent you the picture of us with Mark Davis. I said, what up to him, Said, we'd love to have you on the show. He just kind of shook his head. So that was, you know, pretty much. Pretty much like when we stalked him in Vegas.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. We're over three now.

[A]

You were doing a good job. You were thinking of the podcast.

[B]

I appreciate that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it was similar. It was a similar, similar experience.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Mark Davis was next to us. Gavin Newsom was next to us. Dante turtled like a fucking. Say a word. That was funny. Like, I kept looking to my left, and Gavin Newsom was just, like, right there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who had better hair?

[C]

Jim Davis or Jim Gray was in there.

[B]

Mark Davis or Gavin Newsom?

[C]

Mark Davis. Mark Davis was. Was like, chrome white.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I. I have a question, Hank. If Mark Davis was there, were there any other members of the Raiders ownership that were in the box next to yours?

[C]

There was not. We thought. We thought that Brady was coming up. He did not.

[A]

But Jim.

[C]

So, like, we saw. We knew it was the Raiders box before any of them even showed up. And then we saw Mark Davis show up. We're like, oh, Brady actually might show up. And then Jim Gray showed up, and it's like, Brady is. Brady's coming into this box. Box of the year.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But he did not.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What's the name of the podcast again?

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

Yeah, let's go.

[D]

Let's go.

[A]

And Jon Hamm was next to you too, right?

[C]

No, that was a different box. So like the. There was like, we were in one box on, on one floor and then a bunch of other guys were with shot drafting sportsbook. They were in the draftking sports book. It was like Biz Grinnell, Wanton, Don, Pat. They were John Ham. And then Brady went into that box. So we were, we, like, it was funny where we saw Jim Gray and Mark Davis. We got all like, kind of excited and like nervous being like, oh my God, Bray's gonna come up. And then he actually never did. And he was actually in the other box with the other Patriots fans. Whatever.

[A]

Okay, so game starts. What. What's going through your head to start the game? Because it was not. You had not. You had literally nothing to cheer for, for. Actually like pretty much nothing to cheer for. But at what point were you like, oh, this is a problem. This is a defense that maybe, you know, we're not going to be able to overcome. And also they do have an offense. Kenneth Walker running the ball down our dick.

[C]

I wasn't overly concerned until the. Probably midway through the third quarter. I do still. I mean, I, I don't know what it looked like on the broadcast. I don't know if it was confirmed, but it looked very much to me like the first drive, the completionist Cooper cup on the sidelines, like he bobbled it and went out of bounds.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did.

[C]

I don't know why they didn't. I don't know why they didn't challenge that in real time. That was like, that's a bauble. And then it was clearly was a bauble. If he didn't. If they didn't. If they reviewed it and it gets overturned, they don't even get a field goal. Who knows?

[A]

Who knows? You could have lost by like. Yeah, you. You could have lost a little slower.

[C]

The Patriots defense was keeping us in the game. They were bending, not breaking and saying. I just, I had like the. To answer your question, the whole first half I felt confident. I felt like Sam Darnold has a duck in him. We're gonna get some points. We're only down one score, two scores. Like it's a nine point game at halftime. We're very much in this. Like, we just need one thing to break our ways is how I was going into halftime.

[B]

I. I actually hear you that.

[C]

Halftime show of all time.

[B]

Yeah, we'll get to that in a second. So being down 12, nothing. I actually agree with you that it? If that's all you're down. Considering how bad that first half was, you're. You're not in a bad spot because you think you. Yeah. Second half, we could come out hot. They could come out flat, and then we got a game. We score one touchdown, and this is a ball game.

[A]

I just have. I have one question, Hank.

[B]

In.

[A]

In that. So let's just say. Let's go back in time and say Cooper cup does bobble that. Which I actually think we. We said in the cave. We're like, I. I don't think he caught that. But they got the line fast enough. Let's say that's challenged. Overturned. How does the rest of the game go?

[C]

I think we win. Yeah, I think.

[A]

Yeah, that's it.

[B]

So that.

[A]

That was the play.

[C]

Yeah, I think Sliding doors, you know, so.

[B]

So going into halftime where you can. So I know that you were saying, like, their offense didn't look great, their running game was pretty good. But. But Sam Darnold, he had a couple shaky moments. Did you have any shaky moments with Drake May in that first half?

[C]

Will Campbell, more so. I feel like Drake, man Shaker Romans came in the second half. The play calling was shaky, I would say, like, they were just. Just calling screens. Like, there was. There was a lot of screen calls. There was the. The one possession where they needed, like, three plays to get one yard, and they couldn't do it. But I don't know. It was Super Bowl. Super bowl nerves. I kind of was. Was. I was not. Like. I said, like, it's the Super Bowl. If you're within two scores, you're in it. I was not, like, as bad as it looked. I actually felt okay about it because it was like, that was the worst half you could possibly have. We're only down nine points.

[B]

So. So, Hank, super bowl halftime review. I didn't think it was that bad. I mean, I don't think that Mincy was terrible.

[C]

What was your favorite song? Yeah, give me your favorite song. Pft. What was your favorite part?

[B]

Probably San Francisco. I'm talking about the Mincy halftime show.

[A]

Yeah. And I said. I said when. When Mincy went into Althea, I was. I actually said in the cave. I was like, it's good that Bob Weir's dead because he shouldn't be hearing this. Like, that's how bad it was. So. Pft. Shredded, by the way.

[B]

I don't know. Mincy said I was playing guitar. I. I didn't see me. I saw the Oregon Duck.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Was playing guitar.

[A]

I Love, Bob. We thank God he didn't see that. So I appreciate that. But you thought Bad Bunny was bad.

[C]

That halftime performance was so bad, I might have changed my stance on international football forever.

[A]

Wow. Let's go.

[B]

You know that Puerto Rico is part of the United States.

[C]

But, like, what is. Like, why would I. I don't know. I don't want. It's a slippery slope I'm going down. But it was horrible. The only good part was, was. Was Gaga. Gaga tried to save it. I don't know what the demographics of fans are in that game. I know Big Bad Bunny is biggest artist in the world, but, Hank, it.

[A]

Literally is what we've been warning you about.

[C]

It was horrible.

[A]

It was horrible. It's what I actually thought. I don't know any Bad Bunny songs. I thought the energy was cool. And the I. Anytime you throw in some brass instruments, it's. It's pretty cool. But, yeah, I did. I didn't. I didn't. It wasn't for me. But, Hank, we've been warning you about this. This was Roger Goodell trying to get an international audience. This is what we've been telling you. And you've been just poo, poo.

[C]

I was watching it and I was like, this is. Who is this for These?

[A]

Like, yes.

[C]

What is the point of this?

[A]

You're.

[C]

This is America. This is America. This is a Super Bowl. Give me someone else. And then I realized, like, yeah, maybe. You know what? Maybe Big Cat and PFT were right.

[B]

Yeah, we were. Thank you for saying that.

[A]

We were.

[B]

It takes a big man to admit that we're right. Is there anything else that we write about.

[C]

Gaga crush. She was really, really good. Love, love seeing Lady Gaga out there. Cardi B. I knew. I actually knew Cardi B was on one of the songs and he played that song. She did not perform. I thought that might have turned the team around.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Kaita was like my favorite only Bad Bunny song I really know, and he didn't play that. So. Kind of pissed about that. The jets before, like, from the box, like, it was. It was a roof so, like I couldn't see what type of planes are flying over.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Before the game.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There was like an in house band that was like playing in a lot of commercials. That was really good.

[B]

Spectacular flyover before.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Would you like. Would you like to know the kinds of jets that they were?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. So we had two F15 Eagles. I think they were the F15. E. Strike. Strike Eagles. Yeah. Go Birds. And then we had two single Hornets out there. I believe they were the super Hornets.

[C]

How's that possible?

[B]

They might have been the E18 growler. It's the same plane, but I think they were Super Hornets. Then two F35s, the lightnings on the outside, and then the one in the middle was the B1 Lancer. And. And that's the one that flew by your apartment for the air and water show.

[C]

Hank, that's awesome. Yeah, I was. I was pissed I didn't get a better look at that.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

As far as the food goes, we had, like, pizza. We had some really good, like, crab cake rolls. Or not crab cake, but like crab. Crab roll sliders, some mortadella. Max, you would have like that. A lot of popcorn.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

So, yeah, that was. That was a spread.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

Some good.

[A]

Some good.

[C]

Some good candy. Yeah.

[A]

Okay, let's talk about the second half.

[C]

And then, yeah, like, bad bunny. They. They had all these, like, people come out in bushes and set up in the maze. And I thought they were going to be dancing, but they weren't. They didn't dance at all. So that was a little disappointing. So choreography was solid. Yeah, the stage performance, like the way they kind of like set up the stage, it was very, like Broadway esque.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

You're a big theater guy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No, the.

[C]

No English. No English songs was tough.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. You. I mean, you. You could barely speak English and you.

[B]

There's no NFL.

[C]

It's football. Where.

[B]

This is. This.

[C]

It's America's. It's America's. Like, what are we doing?

[A]

Yeah, right. All right, so, Hank, let's do this. We're going to grow the game the second half. Let's get your second half thoughts and then I think we'll do question time after.

[B]

Does that feel that sounds good?

[A]

Like maybe a Henry Lockwood press conference that we could all go around. Just ask you questions before we do the second half, Hank. So get. Collect your thoughts here. DraftKings. Every week in the NBA, Stars Rise, Legends are made, and one player rules them all. DraftKings sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the NBA is bringing back King of the court. And now it's every Tuesday of the season. Here's how it works. DraftKings putting up 1 million in bonus bets each week. Opt in. Apply your token. Place a $5 pregame bet on the NBA star you think will dominate each Tuesday. If your pick finishes the night leading the league in points, rebounds, and assists, they're crowned king of the court and you win your share of 1 million in bonus bets. And this season, there's a new way to track the action. The King of the Court leaderboard Inside the app before tip off, see the top 10 stars in points, rebounds and assists. While games are live, watch your pick, climb the ranks, and when it's over, find out exactly where your star stacked up and you've been crowned a winner. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use code TAKE that's code TAKE to win a share of 1 million in bonus bets. If your player is King of the court in partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours.

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[C]

We go three and out. And then I was like, all right, this is gonna be the time. I might have to take a walk. Start walking around the concourse. They did have TVs everywhere, so I was kind of like, I was watching the game the whole time, but I was trying to, you know, switch up the vibe. Switch up, like, because it was. We had a chance at the end of the second half where I was like, oh, we can score. Go into halftime, score again. Obviously did not do that. And then the first drive of the second half, we just went three. Now right away, I was like, this is bad. It kind of started to set in like this. This is going south, and it might not ever be going north. Yeah, I don't know. What. What else you want? Second. Second half was. The third quarter was a disaster. The third quarter is where my dreams died. When specifically the realization of, like, a hundred thousand dollars coming my way, well, that was not happening. And I was going to have to come on this fucking show and just deal with this.

[A]

I forgot that was. That was your money. I thought it was PFT's bet.

[B]

Well, yeah, the 40, he would have gotten 80,000.

[A]

Ah, yeah, that was your bet.

[B]

I did put the bet in, and I was rooting really hard for it, and I'm bummed out, too, so. Yeah, I. I hear you, Hank. I didn't want to do this show afterwards either, being in a bad mood. When specifically would you say that your dreams died in the third quarter?

[A]

Question.

[B]

Thank.

[A]

You.

[C]

I don't know. Fumble.

[B]

The fumble. The Fumble.

[A]

The Fumble was bad.

[B]

Wait, wait, wait, Hang on.

[A]

I just.

[B]

Let me look up that fumble because I'm having a hard time remembering when it was.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, it was at the very end of the third quarter, right? Yeah. That was third and six.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

16 seconds left in the third quarter. Third and six. Drake may sack. Fumble. Seahawks recovery. They initially said it was third and five, but I went back and I looked it up, and they actually changed it after the fact. Now, in the official score sheet, it does say third and.

[A]

So you think, like, Drake May just subconsciously knew. This feels more like a third and six.

[B]

He knew. He knew I'm in trouble. That was the. They probably just saw the fumble and they're like, well, that was definitely a third and six. Yeah, that's what happened.

[A]

Yeah. Will Campbell didn't really die for that one, because I think he said he'd die for Drake. Maybe that one was right there on the floor.

[B]

I actually thought that the Patriots might have a comeback in them. When, when Matt Collins caught that touchdown, I thought good things might start to happen.

[A]

Did you start to think that, Hank? Yep. Yeah. Cause that did. What was that? That took it, actually. Why didn't Mike Rabel go for two there? Do you guys saying that in the suite it went from. It was 19 0, 19 6. Obviously, in that situation, being down 12 and 13 points is the exact same versus being down 11 points, where you could potentially go for two on another touchdown and kick a field goal. Feels like you got to go for two there. And they didn't go for two.

[C]

Yeah, I was confused, but I, I, I, Yeah, I didn't, I didn't understand that either.

[A]

Okay, and then what about the. The Drake May touchdown? So you weren't listening to broadcast? I don't think I've ever heard a broadcaster do what Chris Collinsworth did in that moment. He just, he kind of like, gave up and, and said, I, I don't even know what that was.

[B]

Oh, the interception. Yeah, the interception.

[A]

He's just like, I don't know why he ever thought that would be a completion.

[B]

It was right after he hit. It was out of their own end zone. And I think he hit Stevenson. I think it was Stevenson on that little swing pass when he was getting the blitz from his strong side from, like, his front side, and he made a real quick decision to go out. Stevenson hurdled over Guy, I think on that play. And, and then Collins Worth was like, drake May is really seeing the game right now. Things are speeding up for him. This is a good thing. And then it, it might have been the next pass attempt that he had. Was that that deep pick? What? Oh, no, it was. That might have been like a pass in the triple coverage. And then later, yeah, there was a deep pick.

[A]

Yeah, that was like. It was just basically a fair catch.

[B]

I don't mind taking a shot there. I don't. It was, it was not a great thrown ball, but on that drive, I imagine that you thought, like, this might happen. I've seen 28 to 3. It could happen again.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't know if it was on camera. I don't know if it was posted, but I'm pretty sure Feidalberg, it was right after that first down, like the, the remandre catcher talking about in hurdle right before the interception. Like, it felt like it Was as. Like, he was dropping back to pass. Fiddleberg was like, it's time to start believing.

[A]

Oh. Oh, no.

[C]

And, yeah, so, yeah, that it was. There was. There was belief. It was kind of just un. You know, a little bit like, just tension in the first half. Yeah, there was some real belief after the touchdown. It felt like they scored that touchdown drive in, like, two seconds. It was like, we can't score in this team. Oh, wait. Yes, we can. We basically had, like, two plays and scored a touchdown. So it's like, all right, we. We cracked the code. We just got to get a stop, and then we can do this. And then.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Because it was. You had stopped them, you scored a touchdown, made it 19, seven, stop them, got the ball back, and then it was like, oh, this could be something. And then it was not nothing.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Do you think that you. That the Patriots have a Super bowl defense? Yeah, I think you do, too. I think Christian Gonzalez played incredibly. Like, how.

[A]

How.

[B]

How cool were those plays that he made on defense? The diving stops.

[C]

They're awesome. I didn't realize how close he was to a pick at the end of the first half. Like, he. There's a picture where, like, he has, you know, balls on both of his hands. Like. Yeah, it was right there.

[A]

He was. He made the diving pass deflection on Rashid Shahid in the first quarter, I believe, which was an unreal play. And then he made that end of the first half where. Yeah, he. He wasn't even. Like, when you first saw it, you thought it was a bad throw by Sam Darnold, but it wasn't. It was just Christian Gonzalez made an incredible play to close on the ball. So, Hank, do you want. And then. And then when was it officially. Officially over? Was it. It was just. Was it that interception?

[C]

The pick six?

[A]

Oh, the. That. The. The pick six. Yeah. Yeah. Which wasn't. It looked. It could have been a fumble sick, but it was actually a pick six.

[B]

Yeah, I think they changed that, like, after. Afterwards, so I can't imagine that the vibes were good, but who was. Who was, like, having the. The toughest time in that box?

[C]

I don't know. I don't know that there's. Gaz.

[A]

Was.

[C]

Was. Was as upset as I've ever seen him that, like, vocally, I guess.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know. I know that's a tough question to answer.

[A]

Are you. Are you ready to go to question time? Do you want to go to question time? Do you want to say anything nice about the Seahawks before we Go to question time.

[C]

I mean, I'll give, I'll give respect to Sam Darnold. I, I, not that I disrespected him, but I definitely, I guess, did not give him enough, like, credit for how good he's gotten. And he, he managed that game well. He played well. I thought he was going to, you know, turn the ball over and give us at least seven. I literally thought it was at least seven. So credit Sam Donald. Situate, you know, situate. Greatness strikes again.

[B]

Situate. Mike.

[C]

Credit to that. Credit. Credit to situate. And. Yeah, that's it.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

All right, so I, I, I'll also say this. I don't. PFT is like all times comeback piece of.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

He's not smart enough to do this, I don't think. And he'll probably take credit for it, but there's no way this is the fucking hotel where the, the Patriots team party was going to be.

[B]

I know. I'm aware.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

No way.

[B]

Are you gonna go?

[C]

No.

[B]

All right. So a couple days ago, we were talking about what we're gonna do after the game, after the game was over, and we thought, hey, wouldn't it be great if we got a hotel room booked at the nearby hotel to the stadium so Hank didn't have to sit in traffic on the way back. He could just walk over to that hotel, record this podcast. And it is the team hotel that the Patriots are. We're going to be doing their after party at tonight.

[A]

Did you know that when it was booked?

[B]

I looked it up online.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I did find out that that was going to be where it was.

[A]

Before or after it was booked.

[B]

I was in the process of booking. It was before I completed the. Okay. Text to the booking person. Be like, let's get this one.

[D]

I mean, that's an all time. That's a good guy move.

[A]

Yeah, that's a really good.

[B]

That's why I didn't think it was like a scumbag.

[D]

Why does that scumbag rooting for the.

[A]

Patriots, dude, He had a $40,000 bet.

[D]

On him going into that. If, going into that. If you were like, there's no way.

[A]

He was playing both sides of the.

[B]

That's like the best move that I've ever made for you. Yeah, that's better than the bet that would have been.

[C]

So.

[A]

Yeah. But wait, Hank, you're thinking about right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're not thinking about. Do you not remember PFT all last week he, he put $40,000 on the.

[B]

Patriots of my own money.

[A]

He Went to the. The. The festival.

[B]

I did go to the fan fest with Hank. He gave a great speech, by the way. Great pump up speech. It was basically like a lot of call and response. We all. We got. Right?

[C]

We all we need.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

A lot of.

[A]

So are you ready for question time, Hank?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Let her rip. Okay, let's go.

[A]

Let's. Let's do. Let's. Let's start it easy for you. Zach, why don't you start?

[E]

What's up, Hank? So I do want to say sorry for your loss, man. It probably had to be a tough day. Quick question. Knowing what you know now.

[C]

Sound like shit, Zach.

[E]

All good. Knowing what you know now, seeing how the game played out, if you. If you could make the call and go back, do you think Josh Dobbs give you a better chance of victory today?

[B]

Great question.

[A]

I didn't know you had to ask you. Zach.

[C]

I need to hear a puppet. Zach, I'm sorry. I love you, but you're. You're a puppet.

[B]

That's a good question.

[A]

Good question.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

What?

[C]

No, I don't. Zach.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Parentheses, pft, parentheses. Piece of scumbag. You.

[B]

I mean, you are seeing ghosts. You've turned. You turned into a pumpkin.

[C]

Hank, were you.

[B]

You're seeing. I. I had nothing to do with that.

[A]

Did someone give you that question?

[E]

No, I was just gonna. Yeah, I'm just asking that question.

[B]

Hank. You think I'm the boogeyman behind every curtain pull. That was just. Zach, I. Now, to be fair, Hannah, I did send a question to Max.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I did not send that question.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Hey, I have another question. I can do it too, first.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Well, we have unlimited question time like this. We don't have to the press. No PR person is going to come and be like, hey, you gotta. You gotta wrap this up. So we have unlimited questions.

[D]

That's good.

[A]

We can fire as many questions as we want. Go ahead, Max. You want to go.

[D]

Would you like me to do my original question or would you like.

[A]

That's the point. We have unlimited. It's. It's. It's bottomless questions.

[D]

Okay. Shockingly, you're going to think that this is the one that PFT sent to me, but it's. It's the one that I had on my own. Looking at the Patriots run this playoffs and looking at the Commanders run last playoffs, do you find any similarities between the two?

[C]

No pitchers made to the Super Bowl.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Max actually did say this in the gambling.

[B]

Not my question.

[A]

Yeah. He said this and we actually were like. Well, the, the, the Commanders actually like Commanders beating the Lions in Detroit was probably the most impressive victory. If you put all the. The, the for sure whomped them. Yeah.

[B]

In Detroit. It was a whopping.

[A]

That was probably more.

[D]

I think I would actually argue that the Commanders looked better in the playoffs last year than the Patriots did this year.

[B]

But I, I do not match. I don't.

[C]

That's a self suck because you're like, they lost the Eagles.

[B]

True.

[A]

Oh yeah, it's true about that.

[B]

We put up a better fight than the Chiefs did.

[D]

Yeah, great point.

[A]

Okay, you want to. I'll ask them. Let's, you know.

[D]

You got it. You got it.

[A]

Hank, can I go back to Friday's show when we were breaking down the game? I said, 40% chance the Patriots can win close. 40% chance Seahawks win close. 20% chance the Seahawks blow them out. Now I hand up. I was wrong because if I. Looking at how that went, I don't think it was a 40% chance the Patriots could win close. And I also think the Seahawks blowing them out should have been a bigger portion of my pie. You looked at me like I was fucking insane and made me give you a pity 1% to the Patriots blowing out the Seahawks. Do you, do you apologize for that?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But do you see that I was closer to, to. I was the closest to being right of anyone's prediction of the game.

[C]

All right. Yeah, we're going to get a question. It's not just a self suck. So that Max is self sucking the Eagles big head, self sucking himself. Okay, what do you got?

[B]

I got a question for you, Hank. Would you like to apologize for me when I suggested that Drake May might have a hurt shoulder?

[A]

Good question.

[C]

Yeah. You never know what guys are dealing with this time of year. It's probably torn. He probably like doesn't even have a shoulder anymore. So. Yeah, I would like to apologize. I didn't realize the extent of his shoulder and I still don't.

[B]

Yeah, I'd tell you. Yeah.

[A]

Hey, other question. Do you think there's any point during the game that Josh McDaniel was like, how is this happening? I've been here so many times and I know how to work super bowl week. How is Mike McDonald doing this to me?

[C]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Well, no, I'm just.

[B]

That was. Yeah, we're doing question answers. Max, you have a second question?

[A]

Yes.

[D]

This one may not, may not have come from my own brain, but I will continue to ask it.

[A]

He's Getting. Look at his. He's getting angry and anger. His face is getting angrier and angrier.

[D]

This one may. May make you angry.

[B]

This is journalism.

[A]

He's teetering right now.

[D]

This one may make you angry.

[A]

Mount.

[B]

I can tell this is going to be a good question for Max.

[D]

Now that you've lost in every time zone, do you have. Do you have a least favorite time zone to lose the super bowl in?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

East Coast. Next question. Good answer.

[D]

We're getting it through.

[B]

Means. Do you have any questions?

[A]

You're. Hey. Credit to Hank. I just wanted to. We're probably around halftime of the questions. Maybe only after the first quarter, if we're being honest. Credit to Hank. He's sitting here. He's standing in the pocket. He's taking all these questions.

[B]

He's facing the music.

[A]

Yeah. Am I up? Yeah.

[E]

So I think we could all agree I'll never see my team in the Super Bowl.

[B]

So with that.

[E]

So with that being said, what's it like to watch your team put up.

[A]

An absolute stinker in the Super Bowl?

[C]

I mean, they ran into a good defense, one of the greatest defenses of all time. It sucks. It sucks memes. It really does. You come all this way, you get to the game early. It's perfect weather. You're. You got dreams. You got visions of. Of. You got visions of. Of glory and partying with the team and going to Disney World.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And.

[A]

And.

[C]

And then all of a sudden, like, it feels like time is just gone. Like, it was like, oh, it's halftime. Oh, the third quarter's over. Like, this game's. Oh, like, takes so long to get there. Like, all week. I just wanted to get you guys out of there. And all weekend I was like, I don't care about these parties. Like, just fast forward to Sunday. Fast forward to Sunday. Sunday we get to the game, we're like four hours early. Like, we were in the stadium before anyone else. And it's like, it's going to take forever for this game to start. And then it started and it was over. Like, it. When you're. When your team, it sucks. To answer your question, it fucking sucks.

[B]

Yeah. Pft, Hank. Pft. Here. For part of my take, did you see Matt Collins pregame fit?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Are you like me? And that when you saw it, you were like, oh, no. This could either be the coolest thing to ever wear to super bowl or maybe the worst possible thing you can wear, depending on how the game goes.

[A]

Yeah, he.

[C]

He has some insane outfits. So I kind of like, it wasn't like, didn't come out of nowhere. It's Matt Collins.

[D]

He also had a good game, which makes it. Which makes it better back.

[C]

Yeah, I didn't know, like, I don't know if it was, like, a political statement or if he was just going for, like, Hannibal Lecter or, like, what. I don't know what it was.

[B]

I think it was just. Yeah, he was. He was chained. He was wearing a prisoner's outfit. Handcuffs chained together. He had the mask on, like a straight jacket type look. I don't think that was political. I think that was Matt Collins.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just being Mac.

[A]

Just Mac.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Zach, did you have another question?

[E]

Second question. Oh, it's a pink. Sorry for the loss. Again. I was curious, do you guys. Do you think there's a path for you guys to get back to super bowl next year? Is this going to take, like, maybe several years to get back?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, the.

[A]

The.

[C]

There is a path. I do think there's a path. I love the team we have. I love the guys we got in that locker room. But.

[A]

You.

[C]

You can't take it for granted. This unlike the. The dynasty runs. I felt like we were always gonna be back in the super bowl, like, going into the start of the year. This one, I did feel like I was kind of taking it all in and just enjoying it, because it's like, you never know when you're gonna be back. You might be like, you know, the Commanders or the. The Bears or the Jets. You might never make it, Zach. Like, you might just never make it. So there is a path. Every team, when they start the year, it doesn't matter what your schedule is, doesn't matter who you're playing, how bad they think you're going to be. Any team can make the super bowl when. When the season starts. So there's a path. I'm excited for the future, but, yeah, I don't. I'm not penciling it in yet.

[A]

What would you say, Hank, to the people who are like, see the schedule?

[C]

We said the whole year, the schedule doesn't matter. It's about playoff wins, and they won three times in the playoffs. So against, like, great defenses. I don't really. I don't. I never have and I never will pay any mind to the schedule talk, but next year we'll have a new schedule, and then we'll see what people say then.

[B]

Is it. Is it concerning to you that that Drake man, his second year makes to the super bowl loses? And historically, when that happens, the. The guy never goes back. No Quarterbacks, if they make it to the super bowl in their second season.

[C]

Yeah, Yeah. I answer your question.

[B]

I don't think that they've ever made it back.

[C]

Right.

[D]

Yeah, I have one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Jalen hurts, but he's not.

[E]

He's not a.

[B]

He's a running back. Yeah, got it.

[A]

And he also got cropped out by Steve Young.

[B]

Yeah, he did.

[A]

Steve Young. I don't know if you saw that, Hank, because you were concerned with the Super Bowl. Rightfully so. They had a bunch of Super Bowl MVPs, and there was a picture of all of them standing before the game, like in the bowels of the. You know, it was either locker room or whatever, and Steve Young posted it and he just cropped Jalen Hurts out of the picture.

[C]

That's awesome.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. First.

[D]

First of all, I'm. I'm very impressed with how you're dealing with this. I would have had a temper tank.

[A]

All credit to Hank. He is an absolute temperature taking the fight Max. Yeah.

[D]

I would have started screaming. So I'm. I'm very impressed with how you're doing, how you're dealing with this all the.

[A]

Hank. Hank doesn't talk when his team loose. It's this window. The narrative is gone.

[D]

Yep. With that being said, are you hoping for Drake may to have a shoulder injury? Because that would explain how bad that he looked.

[A]

Mm.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Good answer. Honest answer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you worried at all about how he looked in the playoffs in totality when they played? I mean, he played against really good defenses, so that's part of it. And he's 23.

[C]

Yeah, I like to. I was enjoying, like, running with the weather narrative. Obviously that wasn't the case today. He's 23, second youngest quarterback to ever make the Super Bowl. He's got time. We got. We got our guy, we got our coach. Defense is great. We gotta, you know, build up the offensive line. But I'm not overly worried about it. No. I think again, it's like if he was, you know, 29, 30, and that was his first playoff appearance, but it's like by the time he's 27, that's, you know, hopefully a blip on the radar and he's three or four playoff appearances in by then.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you think he might have fumbleitis?

[C]

No. The Seahawks. I feel like you guys aren't giving enough credit to Seahawks as a ball knower. I'm not putting on Drake, man. I'm giving credit to.

[A]

I gave a lot of.

[B]

Yeah, you guys.

[C]

You guys are just trying to discredit Rick, man.

[A]

I gave a lot of credit to Seahawks defense both before and after the game.

[B]

A lot of credit. Seahawks defense was great. But Drake. It doesn't change the fact Drake may did have the most fumbles in the history of the playoffs. That's why I was asking about fumbleitis.

[C]

Okay, got it.

[A]

Zach. Do you have another question, Hank?

[E]

I'm just curious.

[B]

Are you.

[E]

Are you kind of thinking to tomorrow already? Is today over? Is it a fresh start tomorrow? Are you going to still be thinking about this loss in the next coming days or is it short term memory? It's over. It's done with on the next season.

[A]

Good question.

[D]

Great question.

[A]

Great question.

[D]

Excellent question.

[A]

That's a horrible question.

[D]

That was nice.

[A]

How long is it gonna stick with you?

[C]

A while. Because of fucking this piece of in the red.

[B]

What?

[C]

I can't get away from it. I can't. I can't move on. Like, it's like it, it's gonna. It's not. It's gonna stick with me and I will not like. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Probably until we win the Super Bowl.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I think that's the answer. I think that's fair.

[C]

But until then. You're gonna be so annoying.

[A]

I mean, hey, I think you're kind of forgetting the fact that PFT lost a $40,000.

[B]

I did lose $40,000 today. Yeah, it's a lot of money.

[A]

It's a shitload of money.

[B]

Dude, that's a car. I could get a sick car with $40,000. I could get a new El Camino.

[A]

Of sympathy for your friend.

[B]

Yeah, please. And Hank, you are. You do think that I'm behind everything. You think that I'm pulling all the strings left and right. I think you need to take some time off. Go play some golf. Put your head down. It's Leftwood season.

[C]

Yeah, I mean it, it unfortunately is. But yeah, the answer is ask question. I will be thinking about it for a while. I don't think I'm ever getting back to the hotel.

[A]

Yeah, I'm at the.

[C]

I'm gonna. I'll lock down the lobby, seal the signs for like patriots after party, which will not be happening.

[B]

Have you told yourself gonna be like.

[C]

A thousand dollar Uber?

[B]

Have you told yourself, man, in the arena, it's not the critic who counts me. It's you suffering the slings, the arrows of defeat. You're actually the man.

[A]

Thanks, Memes. Do you have any other questions.

[B]

Off.

[A]

The Top of my head. No Celtics lost today, too. Max, do you have any other questions?

[B]

Good question.

[A]

I had one last question, but do you have any.

[D]

No, I have no. I have no more questions.

[A]

I'll do The Roback question. Rhobac.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. Hey, so, Hank, you're a little blurry coming in and out. Are you. Are you wet right now? Or were you going to get wet.

[C]

To kind of lead the charge? And then I'll go.

[A]

I'll get Soggy sorrows.

[B]

I'll get wet. I'll get wet as fuck.

[A]

Okay. Do you want. Do you want. You guys both want to get wet?

[B]

Yeah, I'll go get.

[A]

Okay. All right. They're both getting wet. Let's let them both get wet.

[E]

All right, so we have. Hank. We have everything set up in the shower.

[A]

Oh, we. What do we have? Hank's gonna get in his shower.

[E]

He's going in his.

[A]

Okay, this perfect.

[E]

PFC is gonna go. Yeah, you go.

[A]

Okay, this is great. So we are. We have it every. Everything set up. Hank, I do want to give you a ton of credit, especially concerning the fact that, like you said, you mentioned it multiple times. You got there really early. So that make it hurt more with how early you got there.

[C]

What? What do you mean?

[A]

I don't know. You just kept on saying how you got there early.

[C]

I mean, we were.

[A]

What?

[C]

Fuck you.

[D]

I don't.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. What does that even mean?

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

I truly am impressed with the way.

[A]

That you've done that. You're doing a great job with this today.

[C]

I would not have been able to do it.

[A]

I did think a couple times about the scoff you gave me when I said there's a 20% chance the Seahawks will blow them out. And you're just like, how could you think that? But that's neither here nor there. Would you consider that a blowout? Hank? Hank, was that a blowout?

[D]

He might not be able to hear you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, he said that was a blowout. Yeah, that was definitely a blow up voice. Yeah. What's up, Grinelli? Here's Grin.

[C]

Checklist.

[A]

All right, here he goes. Hank's going in the shower. Oh, man. Soggy sorrows. Oh, he's getting. Do you have a change of clothes, Hank? Nope. Oh, no. He's gotta get all the way back to Clara or San Francisco. He's in Santa Clara. Oh, no. He's sitting in the. Oh, this is some good stuff. He's sitting in the bathtub. He's in the shower. This is Hank. I am very impressed with how you get commercials.

[C]

Any good commercials?

[A]

Let's see the. Oh, the karaoke one. Yeah. We don't want to do free ads. There was a commercial. I don't even know who it was. Yeah, but it was no free ads. But it was. It was a horse with a ball with a bald eagle on it. It was pretty cool. Yeah.

[C]

Sports Illustrated party.

[A]

Yeah. How was that? Good.

[C]

Awesome.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I wanted to take a nap all weekend.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you can nap now.

[C]

Yeah, that. That is nice.

[A]

Yeah. That's huge. The fact that you can go back to napping because you wanted to nap a lot. Dude, you're getting really, really wet.

[D]

You did not have to do this for this long. Why did you.

[A]

Why? Pft. Pft's back. Pft is considerably less wet than egg.

[C]

Let me see.

[B]

Pft.

[A]

He just laid down in the bathtub for a solid, like, two minutes.

[B]

I. I did soak.

[A]

My shirt's wet.

[B]

I'm wet, Hank. This sucks. I can't believe. I can't believe we lost my two.

[A]

Boys doing soggy soggs.

[B]

When I put this bed in. Never in a million years. I think it would get to this point where it was.

[D]

Yes, you can get out of the Super Bowl. You can get out of.

[A]

No, no. He asked if he could leave the Zoom. No.

[B]

And now we're. We've lost more Super Bowls than.

[D]

No, you have to stay.

[A]

Regardless.

[D]

Regardless.

[C]

By the way, I move my flight.

[A]

All right?

[D]

Hank, you cannot leave.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

You cannot leave this town. Hank, stop.

[B]

Do not leave.

[A]

Hank, stop for a second. What did you just say about. Did you actually move your flight?

[C]

Yeah, PFT moved his flight to Monday, so I did, too. I'm just going straight to Orlando.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Love you, Hank. Thank you for that.

[C]

You inspired me. Bft. You inspired me.

[B]

I'm glad I could.

[C]

I thought we were gonna work on. On Monday and Tuesday, but. Yeah, I like. I like where your head's at.

[A]

Yeah. All right.

[B]

I'm glad I could help, Hank.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Enjoy Orlando.

[A]

I hope.

[B]

I hope you're running some of the Seahawks today. That'd be cool. Situate, Mike.

[A]

Hank, are we gonna see you on Tuesday? For real? We're gonna see you. You didn't move anything. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Soon.

[A]

No, you're gonna be here.

[C]

I got tea time.

[A]

No, you're gonna be here. Come on.

[C]

We'll see.

[A]

Yeah, you're gonna be in studio. You've done an incredible job here, Hank. You've, you've, you've killed all the narratives of Hank. Hank doesn't talk when he loses. And Hank is a sore loser. You've done a good job tonight.

[C]

Awesome. Love to hear it. So happy.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Hank, credit to you.

[A]

I'm proud of you, Hank.

[B]

Credit tank.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You showed up. You faced the music. You listened to us be assholes. You didn't flip out like Max would have been terrible.

[D]

Horrible.

[A]

Yes, Hank. So we'll see you Tuesday.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Love you guys.

[B]

Love you.

[A]

See you Sunday.

[B]

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[A]

Okay. Credit to Hank. Good performance by him.

[B]

Also massive credit to Hank.

[A]

Massive credit.

[B]

That's gotta be tough. I will never know the sting of losing a Super bowl and then showing up to do a podcast and that is. And just kind of listen to us be for 30 minutes non stop.

[A]

He was great. I mean we did listen to him be an asshole to us. That's a great long time this season. So it wasn't, it wasn't totally unwarranted and he did kind of poo poo at some of the points we brought up leading up to the Super Bowl.

[B]

He did.

[A]

And some of those points which I want to talk about now. Mike McDonald is a defensive wizard and he has. So he is the first non. He's the first defensive coach ever to win the super bowl while calling the defensive plays. Head coach to, well, calling the defensive plays. He's the first defensive minded head coach to win a Super bowl since Bill Belichick in 2018. He's the first non Belichick defensive minded head coach to win since the last time the Seahawks won with Pete Carroll. He is everywhere. He's gone. He's been incredible. I mean, think about it. He was at Michigan. I know the Connor Stallions thing happened and yes, there probably was, you know, some nefarious stuff going on, but everyone was convinced that the, the Michigan defense had all of the plays because they were so good and so sound. Turns out Mike McDonald is that good of a coach. He had that Ravens defense a couple of years ago where they had the one seed and that was all the offensive fault. Like that team was so good. Defensively. He is for a league that is going in one direction in terms of offensive head coaches. He has completely swung it back and being like, I can scheme Up a game. I can have a game plan ready to go. The way that they had free rushers coming at all times against Drake May just a perfect, perfect game plan.

[B]

Yeah, they had, they had every team in hell this year except for the Rams. And he, he was clearly a difference maker for that defense ever since he got there. Like I've heard other players talk about, I'm not smart enough to understand exactly how he does it or what he does, but the way that he, he plays his zone coverage. But it's like it's different to the point where quarterbacks get confused by it, even if they watch tape on it because he's always adjusting. They're calling him the Sean McVeigh of defense, which is a really lazy way to say that he's young and awesome and he's really smart and awesome. But that's a great compliment to him and yeah, all the credit to him for putting this together. I actually think that it didn't matter what team from the AFC you ended up having in the super bowl. If it was the Broncos. I mean, can you imagine Stitty going up against this defense?

[A]

Yeah. The only one had maybe a more compelling super bowl as if it was Josh Allen. Just because Josh Allen would have. Yeah, I, I think he's been through some wars where I still think the Seahawks would have won.

[B]

I think so too.

[A]

But it would have been. Josh Allen would have. Has seen enough stuff where he might have been able to keep it at least a little more competitive. But yeah, they were.

[B]

I think they would have flustered anyone. That's what they did all season.

[A]

Look what they did to the 49ers who were. I know the 49ers are banged up, but Brock Purdy was playing great football and Week 18 completely shut him down. Then in the playoffs completely shut them down again. Through three quarters of the super bowl, the opposing team, the Patriots, had five first downs. Yeah, it was every. There was to the two times in the first half that the Patriots got over the 50 yard line. They ended up on the other side of the 50 yard line when they had to punt. That's how good like it was. It was just an absolute beat down by that Seattle defense and Mike McDonald and what he was able to to do and they. So the Seahawks held the Patriots to negative 27 EPA in the super bowl, the fewest allowed by any defense in a championship game or super bowl in the last 10 seasons. They had six sacks, two interceptions, a fumble recovery and a touchdown. And also John Schneider, he deserves all the Credit in the world for what he's done in terms of rebuilding this team so quickly. The Russell Wilson thing happens a few years ago where even at the time, I mean, we, we know what happened with Russ in Denver. We know what happened in Pittsburgh and New York. He did. By the way, Russell Wilson did come out today and say he wants to play another year. I don't know who wants him to play another year, but he wants to play another year.

[B]

I want him to play another year.

[A]

So. But that was a decision that, you know, and it was, it was both sides. Russell Wilson wanted a fresh start, but that's your franchise quarterback, your super bowl winning quarterback. And to then, you know, turn, turn the whole thing around, the Geno Smith thing went okay. Not great. To then say, hey, let's go get Sam Darnold. The draft, the, the draft that he had. Devin Witherspoon had a, what, three pass defense, a sack. He was all over the field. He was their first round draft pick in 2023. Derek hall from the, from the second round in that year had two sacks. Byron Murphy had two sacks. He was a first round pick two years ago. Just draft pick after draft pick after draft pick. He has hit and made this team just an absolute monster of a roster. Top to bottom.

[B]

You can see how good the roster is because when they went through their dark period, when they had, if you can call it a dark period, Geno Smith, Pete Carroll as the coach. Yeah, they were still pretty competitive. Yeah, they, they weren't a team that was rolling over. And then the Raiders run back Geno Smith and Pete Carroll, which we're not acknowledging and we see how that turned out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, the roster is good. He's a, he's an incredible talent evaluator. And the, the pieces he added on defense too, not just through the draft free agency. Big winner from today.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

I know he didn't get a Sack. Yeah, but DeMarcus Lawrence, before the season, he said, I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super bowl there in Dallas. And explaining why he was going to the, to the Seahawks. And then Micah Parsons tweeted out, this is some clown. And then DeMarcus Lawrence said, Call me a clown, won't change that. What I said is the truth. Maybe you should spend more time winning and less time tweeting.

[A]

Yeah, pretty.

[B]

Pretty prescient by DeMarcus Lawrence.

[A]

Yeah, he had it right.

[B]

He deserves a victory lap of all victory laps.

[A]

Yeah. Like just go down and he deserves. That's great pickup. Even worry who was a second round pick last year, was just an absolute game changer in terms of how Mike McDonald used him all around the field. It's just up and down their roster. His match. JSN didn't even. JSN was probably concussed. Like he, he, he probably got concussed in that first half. He was kind of a non factor. And that is partially because Christian Gonzalez played his absolute balls off. But think about that when you're going into this Super Bowl. If we were sitting here on, on Friday show and I said, we said to Hank, hey, JSN is going to have four catches for 27 yards, you'd think the Patriots won the game.

[B]

Yeah. So credit to the Patriots defense. They did. They took away their best player.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they said, we're not going to let JSN beat us. And he didn't beat him. This also John Schneider, very, very smart guy. This playoff stretch might have screwed up. What was maybe his master plan that he was cooking up? Kenneth Walker. Cat side of the bag.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cat's out of the bag. Kenneth Walker is going to get paid.

[A]

Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker, he is.

[B]

Going to get paid like a motherfucker.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when he was splitting carries with Charbonnet, it was like, I don't know if the competition if, if other teams are going to really pony up for him because he's not a bell cow back. Guess what? He's a pretty fucking good bell cow back.

[A]

And he was great in this game. He was basically the offense. That's where it started, you know, getting going. He. He broke how many? How many? It felt like he had three or four pretty explosive runs. I know he had a 30 yard run. Clint Kubiak, who's now the Raiders head coach, we all knew that was going to happen, but it was already, it was just announced. Did a great job of being like, hey, you know where the only place like this Patriots defense really good. Let's get some stretch runs, some runs to the outside where Kenneth Walker can get going. And that's where they had success. And he. Without Kenneth Walker. Yeah. I mean he, he was the reason why this game started to, to get farther and further away for the Patriots because it was that defensive stalemate, especially in the first half. And I know people say that was a boring Super Bowl. I get it. Partially. I'm skewed because I bet on the Seahawks, but I do think that first half was a defensive masterclass on both sides. Yeah. Where you just watching that game, it wasn't as much oh, Drake made struggled but like some of the, some of the free blitzers that McDonald was able to get, you know, open there, the Christian Gonzalez plays it. There were some really incredible defensive plays that were happening.

[B]

Awesome defense. I think if you're a fan of defense, that was actually very, very fun to watch in that first half. I, I do think, yeah, Kenneth Walker was a big difference maker. The Seahawks offensive line played really well for the most part too. I think in the running game, specifically, like in the passing game. Sam Darnold made some great plays when he was under pressure, moving around in the pocket. Actually one where he had JSN on a wide open like 75, 80 yard touchdown that he overthrew. But, but the offensive line did really good in the running game. Around the edges. They just, if they're running that zone play that stretch, they just seal you off good and they give Kenneth Walker a lot of room for a cutback. Also, massive credit to Jake Bobo and his blocking at the wide receiver position opened up some massive holes for K9.

[A]

Some other, some other notes from the Seahawks run and, and how awesome of a team they were. We talked about it with the Rams game, the NFC championship game and the Muff kick. We talked about it with, you know, LaFleur and Shanahan. These, these teams that they're special teams, they kind of throw them to the side and say, we'll figure out otherwise. The, the Rasheed Shahid return to start the 49ers game in the divisional round. The Seahawks spend the most out of anyone in the NFL on special teams. $9.3 million. Jason Myers just finished in an NFL season scoring the most points anyone's ever scored in an NFL season. He was money tonight. Special teams matters. This Seahawks organization says, hey, here's where we can win the game on the margins. And like even something as simple as their onside kick recovery was as easy as possible. Maybe not a great onside kick, but they did everything. They punted well tonight. There's multiple times they punted the ball in inside the five yard line. Jason Myers kicked five, five field goals, six field goals. I think it was five, five, five field goals. Rasheed Shahid, no issue fielding punts like they did. They, they. The Seahawks just went through the playoffs, so this is also on offense, but this is special teams as well. They went through the entire playoff run without a turnover. Yeah, they did not turn the ball over. That's how you win. They were fundamentally so sound and so buttoned up in all aspects of the game in all Three phases of the game where it didn't. And we, we. This was a theme we talked about when it, when people were saying, oh, Sam Darnold scene goes. I said it many times. I threw the stat out there many times. He was five and one in games where he had multiple turnovers. This was a full, true team in that respect that it wasn't. One piece falters. Everything falls apart. They were all just so good, top to bottom.

[B]

Yeah. So Myers is five for five. And then Michael Dixon, he punted seven times. Three of them inside the 20, I think. Two of them inside the five.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just. Absolutely. That's Jay Harbaugh, too. Special teams coordinator is a Harbaugh.

[A]

It was. But that's. It really is when you, you don't think about special teams until you really get to the playoffs. And then you start to realize that a lot of these, these games are won and lost in the smallest margins. This game was not one of those cases because the Seahawks were just that much better. But the reason you could say maybe why they're there is because of that NFC Championship game. When you have that muff kick by the Rams, they don't care about special teams and the Seahawks do.

[B]

They were just dominant. And the offensive line for the Patriots. That's a question. They got a question mark.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. I think you got to move Will Campbell inside because it looked like Will Campbell. You know, I know he got hurt during the season, but when he goes up against guys and I know the arm length thing, but. And we all make jokes about it, but it's just a fact that when you're going up against. It's like a boxer when you're going up, a guy with a guy who has multiple inches on arm length, he's going to be able to get, you know, around you easier.

[B]

He gave up.

[A]

He can hit you before you hit him.

[B]

He gave up 14 pressures tonight. That's the most pressures allowed by any player in a game this entire season. In any game.

[A]

Not.

[B]

Not just the playoffs. It includes the playoffs. Includes the regular season. 14 quarterback pressures. least one of those was because his guy, his guard chipped his man out to the outside.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And kind of sent him at Sam Darnold. But yeah, I, I feel like Sam Darnold's gotta be having the best time ever tonight. Best time. Everyone counted him out. What a great comeback story he is. Now there's gonna be, like sliding doors, ramifications from Sam Darnold winning the super bowl, which is one you're gonna see teams go out and look for guys that have been kind of cast off, that were said to have talent. But two, you're probably going to see some teams stick with a quarterback maybe a season or two longer than, than maybe they should because they're like, what if he just becomes Sam Darnold and what if he gets really good? Yeah. What if it was our problem to begin with and we change everything up and then he's the guy.

[A]

Listen, I think I might retire on my 2021 take of. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not stopping believing in Sam Darnold when you said you weren't going to stop believing in that one. Yeah, this is, this actually is like one of those takes that I'll tell. I'll just walk around and just like, hey, you know what? We, we did get one right one time.

[B]

I, I think as right as I was about Baker. I think I disagreed with you about Sam Darnold.

[A]

Well, I, I kind of said I think this is so crazy, but I'm gonna say it anyway. December 7, 2022 is when this, when this happened on our show.

[B]

Well, with Baker, I actually, I'm not done believing in Baker Mayfield yet. This might be weird, he sucked at the Panthers.

[A]

But I'll do one worse.

[B]

I like Baker.

[A]

I'll do one worse. I'm not done believing in Sam Darnold yet.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Stupid.

[B]

I know. Yeah, that is worse.

[A]

I know that's way better. Were. But yeah, I. And again, I know people will say, well, the defense was out of this world and it was.

[B]

Yeah, if you have.

[A]

But I just go back to that NFC Championship game where they are not in the super bowl if he doesn't play a perfect game of football and make those big time throws time and time again. So I don't see it as Sam Donald got carried to a Super Bowl. He was part of a incredible team overall and they all played their part in winning a dominant super bowl and winning a dominant. Like they were dominant from the beginning of the season all the way through. They were as deserving as a Super bowl champ as you could possibly get.

[B]

They were the best team, best team in football all year and it was.

[A]

Right in front of our eyes. I think what, what put us off the scent was that like, think about if we go back in time in that October game when the Seahawks lost by two in a game the same Darnold threw four interceptions. I think that game got everyone a little off the scent. We were like, huh, Like Yeah, I guess they can't do it. I know it happened to me. And then it took a little time to come around. If they win that game, this would have been one of those teams where you're like, I think people would have been since October saying this team cannot be stopped in their all time great.

[B]

Well, Sam Darnold was always the knock against him was like, he's still going to have that gunslinger in him where he's going to go out and he's going to give you the bad games in the playoffs. You did not get gunslinger. You got, you got very good, well put together mistake free Sam Darnold, even Hank.

[A]

My point that the last people to come around to Sam Darnold, and rightfully so, because of what they did to him, the Patriots fans and Hank said I was wrong about Sam Donald.

[B]

Well, the Seahawks defense was, by the way, the, the Patriots. When I tried to tell Hank, going into the playoffs or into the super bowl, you've beaten some of the best defenses in football. That's real. They did beat good defenses.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The difference with the Seahawks is they're the best defense and also their offense is better than all the other good defenses that the Patriots beat in the playoffs. And their offense was a lot better.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Than that. I do want to just do a blind resume for you, big cat.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. Which is worse, Losing to the Seattle Seahawks 29 to 13 or losing to the Seattle Seahawks 27 to 18?

[A]

I would say the, the 29, 13.

[B]

That's worse. I would agree. Because it's more points. Yeah. Yeah. The 27 to 18 game, that was the Indianapolis Colts and Philip Rivers. Oh, against the Seahawks. That game was actually. It was kind of close at the end. You remember that one?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like obviously Philip Rivers couldn't throw the ball at all and when he had to at the end of the game, ended up turning it over. That was ugly. But that game felt way more competitive.

[A]

That was the first Philip Rivers game back.

[B]

Yeah. That was so much fun. That was in Seattle.

[A]

In Seattle, yeah.

[B]

So I mean the, the Patriots offense was clearly limited for a few reasons. I'd say like 50% on the line and then 50% the quarterback both having to deal with that defense that they were going up against. But yeah, it was, it was an ass kicking. It was a good old fashioned ass kicking. And now the Patriots, they are the all time most losing super bowl franchise in NFL history. Deb crown them the.

[A]

What's their full record now? 6 and 6.

[B]

I believe they're 6 and 6. 500.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

In the Super bowl, the LeBron of football teams.

[A]

Here's a stat that means nothing, but it's just funny to say bad bunny traveled 124 and a half yards with the football during his halftime show. The patriots rushed for 79 total yards in the actual game.

[B]

Yeah, Baboni, Baboni.

[A]

I didn't think. I mean, Hank was there, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He also was in a bad mood. I would. I would rank Bad Bunnies. My honest take, because it's become way too political, and it's very stupid that you have to. Basically, whoever you voted for, you then have to decide how the super bowl halftime act was.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Again, super bowl halftime show is not for guys like us who are going to watch the super bowl no matter what and love football. It's for the general audience that is tuning in to maybe their first football game of the year and trying to grow. Like, it's just not for us. So I never am seeing the super bowl halftime show and being like, God damn it, why didn't they cater to me? Because guess what? Roger Goodell's got me by the fucking balls. I mean, he'll put football on in Australia two in the morning, and I'll tune into it.

[B]

The super bowl halftime show has almost become more for people to complain about the Super Bowl. I wouldn't be surprised if Roger Dell was like, they're gonna hate this one. Yeah, I can't wait to see.

[A]

But. But if you're. If you are listening to this show, you probably align very closely to us in the fact that you're gonna watch football no matter where it's shown, where it's being played, who's playing, whatever it may be. So, yeah, it's not for us. But my honest review of Bad Bunny is. Simply didn't understand it. But some of the trumpets and shit were cool.

[B]

There was. The theatrics was kind of well designed.

[A]

Like, some of the music, I was like, oh, you know what? I kind of like this music because you put in trumpets and it had. It had energy.

[B]

They had asses, too.

[A]

I do like the energy.

[B]

There was a good amount of asses. This halftime show. More ass per capita than any other halftime show I've ever seen.

[A]

And the running trees with people. And it was very funny.

[B]

Yeah, we got. We had him moving the trees. Max is still bewildered by how the trees moved.

[D]

It's crazy.

[C]

They're people.

[B]

Yeah, they're people.

[A]

People.

[B]

People wearing costumes. I wasn't expecting to see people not.

[A]

I saw one person say, this is Kawhi's. What was the name of his company?

[B]

Aspiration Aspire Aspirin.

[A]

He's like, live. Look at Kawhi's tree company.

[B]

I don't get political Big cap, but I will for a second.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

If they had given the Super Bowl MVP to Jason Myers, I was going to need a kid rocks All American Super Bowl MVP award to be given out to the real MVP in the game. Yeah, that. That to me would have done it. I would have said no.

[A]

If he had. I think you could give it to him. If they had never scored a touchdown and he maybe had two or more. Two more. He had eight field goals. If he had six, seven or eight.

[B]

If he had six field. So he had five. The longest was 41.

[A]

Yeah. It wasn't like if he had.

[B]

If he had a nuke from like 62 yards out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

As one of his six field goals, then I would. If the last one that he hit in a closer game, maybe then I would say, okay, if nobody's gonna score, I guess he kind of.

[A]

You would have to give it to a defensive player first, too, because how good the sea. They should just give it to the Seahawks defense overall. But Kenneth Walker was very deserving. Kenneth Walker was when. When their offense looked like it couldn't get going and JSM was, you know, banged up. Kenneth Walker and AJ Barner also. We didn't mention him, but he had a hell of a game. Had the. Had that touchdown that broke it open. He was. He had a couple big first downs early in the game. He was. He was very, very important.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And Cooper Cup.

[B]

Cooper cup had a. Had a very solid game, too. He was also another guy cast aside.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Thrown out. Got in the elevator fight about him. He had a very good game today. I, I think lost. And in Hank blaming me for everything in his life is the fact that I was such a good friend to him on Friday. Such a good friend. We were hanging out all day. I went to a stupid little fan fest and. And met all the Patriots super fans and just stood there and let him, you know, rub it in my face like I deserve to have, you know, I deserved a lot of stuff to be rubbed in my face. I was, I. I did Hank a favor. I was like, trying to convince him that the whole Tom Brady thing about how Tom was saying, I don't have a dog in the fight and all the news, I was like, you know, I think, Hank, I think. I think this is just a Super bowl commercial. I think Tom's getting in the News. And then you're gonna see him dressed up like an all Pat's gear in a commercial on Sunday. And Hank's face lit up. He's like, oh, my God, it is super bowl hoax commercial season. I was like, yeah, dude. Think I gave him some good copium to deal with. I. I was being a really good friend to him. So I'm sad that he's still upset, but.

[A]

Yeah, so. So you guys went out Friday night?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, we went to. First went to the fan fest, and Hank gave the speech to the crowd, and I think he was just looking to say a couple words and get off the tape, but they kept interviewing him. And one of the questions was so funny from the guy. I forget the dude's name. That was like the mc first of all, like the. The district councilman from that part of San Francisco came out, and he was like, I just want to let you know, when I found out the super bowl was coming here and that the Patriots were going to be in it a couple weeks ago, I made sure that my district was going to host the fan festival, and we are the official district of the New England Patriots. And everybody clapped. And then this councilman stood up, took off his shirt, and underneath it, he was wearing the I'm gay for May shirt. Oh, it was. It was very funny. And so then they were interviewing Hank and Fights, and they did. Hank and Fights did a good job. But the guy that was doing the interview was like, you know, you. You suffer like all the haters. You deal with everybody in the media.

[A]

How.

[B]

What's it like just dealing with all that? You like, working for a company like Barstool Sports, and you're just getting all the hate in the world? And I was just up there shaking my head like, oh, my God. Did they just ask you how hard it is to work at Barstool Sports when the New England Patriots are in the middle of the super bowl run and they're going to the game in a box? It was very, very generous to Dave to bring everybody into the box.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, we had. We had a fun night. We went out to the DraftKings party, saw 50 Cent perform live, ran into a few people there. Just flooded with all the. All the former Patriots players. And Jerry Thornton, big celebrity. Got to hang out with him in the vip, too.

[A]

That's awesome.

[B]

So, yeah, it was. It was a good time. I tapped out at about 12:30 because I'm old.

[A]

Yeah. So I. I had a similar night on Thursday night. I went to. I went to Our good friend George Kittle's party, the Tight end University party was awesome. You know, surprisingly very cool guy that I talked to for a decent amount. Mac Jones, Michael cool guy. And yeah, I did ask him some, like, stupid questions like, hey, dude, remember when you saw the dead body and how many bananas did you eat?

[E]

That game.

[A]

He. He will come on the show. Also saw Colson Loveland and said I love you to him about 17 times in a minute and a half, but did secure the digits, which was a little bit weird to be like, hey, man, let's. Let's trade numbers. But I had to do it. Sarg. Our good friend Sam Schwartzstein and Andrew Locke were out and then went to. I got to give a shout out to Final Final awesome bar in San Francisco. And the last thing, I also tapped out around midnight. The last thing that happened as I was walking out of the bar on midnight Thursday night at Final Final was I heard my good friend Ryan Rosillo say, I'm gonna tie one on tonight. And then I woke up to an awesome set of tits that he posted on Instagram.

[B]

It was pretty good. So highlight of my weekend might have been getting ready to go out to dinner on Friday night. And I'm in the back of this SUV with Jon Gruden, who is like, if you have Jon Gruden on your, like, dream foursome dinner guest. You're right. Yeah, he's. He's that funny at dinner. He's just a great, great dude. We're in the back of the SUV and Russello gets in, and the first thing Jon Gruden says is a Resolo. Talk of the town with those two titties you put up on your Instagram stories today. And Resolo just, like, looked at him and goes, thanks, coach.

[A]

Yeah, it was perfect. It was. We're having Resol on Wednesday to do our NBA preview, so I'm. We'll maybe get. Maybe get some more detail to it. But I did. I was with him that night. I wish. I wish he had told me that there was titties.

[B]

Yeah, there's some titties.

[A]

Yeah, there were some really nice titties. Zach, we never.

[E]

You.

[A]

You just never. Yeah. You were just a zero.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you better? Better?

[E]

Yeah, definitely better.

[A]

I like that.

[E]

Thank you, big cat.

[D]

What percent better game.

[E]

I feel like 100. Good.

[D]

Oh, 100.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, I feel. I feel really good. Yeah.

[A]

All right.

[E]

I got like. Like a little congestion, but that clears up pretty quick.

[B]

Zach, can we do a little role play here real quick?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Let's pretend it's five weeks from now, six weeks from now, the start of March Madness. Opening weekend of March Madness. You wake up, it's Thursday morning, you're coughing. Coughing non stop.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah. Your method act. Yeah.

[A]

Good job.

[B]

Good job.

[A]

That was a bad cough.

[E]

It was like a tickle.

[D]

That did not sound like a hundred percent. That did not sound like.

[E]

It was just like phlegm. I just. Have I. I been needed to get that out, but I didn't want to cough over with the. While the mics were on. I was trying to, like, you know when you try to suppress it.

[B]

Yeah. It's a pretty. It's a productive cough too. You're getting rid of stuff.

[E]

Yeah, I was pushing it. I was pushing it down. I shouldn't have been. I didn't want to make any noise.

[B]

Okay, so let's pretend that you're coughing a lot. And then it's also a really big day. We're gonna be streaming all day all the college basketball games. What do you do?

[E]

I gotta just be hand up. I'm sick. I don't want to infect anyone. I gotta let you guys know as soon as I know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yep. And. And you're not gonna get in trouble for that.

[A]

Yeah, no, not at all.

[B]

We'll be glad that you told us.

[E]

The right thing to do is feel something. Say something.

[A]

Yes. Yep. Yes.

[B]

Feel something.

[A]

Say, good job, Zach, because that was our biggest issue, was not that you were sick. It's that you didn't tell us you were sick. Sick for a day and a half.

[E]

I wasn't feeling the best at first. When I reached sick mode, I probably did alert sick mode a little late.

[A]

I definitely did.

[B]

You also.

[D]

You didn't have anything to do the day that you're around us.

[A]

Yeah, that made one day. You sat when we were do. We were doing the Draymond interview, which wasn't a show day. You were just sitting as sick as sick could be in a hotel room with us.

[D]

Sometimes you got to pick your battles, and that's one that you could easily be like, hey, I know. I'm not really going to say anything during this interview. I'm not feeling great. Let me sit this one out.

[E]

Definitely should have bowed out quicker.

[B]

Zach, did anybody close to you, like your. Your family, hear about the 105 degree fever? And if so, what did they say?

[E]

Yeah, my mom was like, you know, Zach, you really should go to the doctor when you hit 100, like 105, you probably should Go get that checked out. I was updating about the fever in the. In the family group text. I wasn't 100% forthcoming with, like, severity wise. Because you don't want to worry him. I'm out of state. You know, there's like, you don't want to worry anybody, so you kind of just like, push it off.

[A]

But. Yeah, yeah, I'm happy you're feeling better. I'm happy that you didn't die with your 105 degree fever.

[E]

No death.

[A]

No death. But, yeah, just, you know, let us know right away. No, next right. Right away. You will never get in trouble for being sick.

[E]

If I didn't feel good right now, I would say it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you would never get in trouble. There will never be a moment where you're like, hey, I'm feeling sick. And we'll say, oh, Zach's being late. No, no. Sick is sick.

[E]

As far as timing goes, though, worst. Worst timing possible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The only people who could be sick in, like, this show, in this. In this studio and try to power through it is me and pft. We'll do that. That's completely what everyone else can check out.

[B]

We're usually sick at around the same time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In each other's bubbles.

[A]

Just fight through it. Whoa. What was that noise?

[E]

No, just like a.

[B]

That was a burp.

[D]

You're not 100%.

[E]

That was not a sick noise.

[A]

I swear.

[C]

That was.

[E]

Oh, good. Now everyone's worried that I'm still sick.

[D]

I. I just don't hear that 95%.

[B]

I haven't been to a doctor.

[E]

Well, I got cleared by WebMD, Google, and my mom.

[A]

Now that your mom cleared you as well, memes. I can't. I don't think. I think we'd be very hypocritical if we start just being the doctor guys.

[D]

When you get 105 degree fever, you go to the doctor.

[A]

We're not doctor guys. We don't do doctor. That's. Fevers aren't.

[E]

I will say fevers aren't like a hospital doctor move unless you, like, really sure are.

[D]

They sure are.

[A]

I am on Zach's side.

[B]

You're an idiot.

[A]

I'm not.

[D]

You're an idiot. If you got 105 fever, go to the doctor.

[E]

But I was tracking. I took photo. I made sure to take a photo of the thermometer as I dropped to remember where I was at and keep good track. Like a log. They do the same thing on a whiteboard at the doctor. They. It just. They were going to tell me Drink fluids, get sleep.

[D]

No, you get an antibiotic and then you, and then, and then you are actually not, like, not contagious. Within 24 hours, that is. You should have gotten an antibiotic.

[E]

I, I fought the good fight, Max. They say so long after, no more fever. You're not contagious. I'm just going off Google. WebMD and my mother who raised a bunch of kids.

[B]

Don't tell them that. Big Cat, 105 degree fever. You go to the doctor.

[A]

No.

[E]

I don't know.

[B]

Go to the. Yes, absolutely.

[E]

Next time. Hopefully they'll never be next time. Things got a little dark there for a second, but we're good.

[B]

Yeah, 105. I'm going to the doctor.

[A]

Nah, 108.

[B]

If you got 108, your brain's melting.

[E]

I think it's like a brain thing.

[B]

Then that's a brain issue. Yeah, 105, that's a, that's a sign that there's something bad going on in your body.

[E]

I was gonna go 100.

[A]

304 is what it says. You should go to the doctor. We, I, we disagree. You and I disagree with Google.

[B]

You guys got to stop going off Google.

[A]

Yeah, I guess so.

[B]

I guess you feel sick.

[E]

Go to the doctoral. My bad.

[B]

I'm starting to feel sick too.

[E]

Now, usually we have the button. There's no button over here.

[A]

Do you know how close you were to having bad, like the wrath of everyone?

[D]

I'm still not saying we're out of the week.

[A]

When there was a, there was a ten hour period where he, I puked. Pft. Puked. And Hank sneezed five times.

[E]

It was a majority of my thoughts was if anyone else was going to get sick.

[A]

I thought about it a lot in the hotel room. Tuesday morning I was like, I puked. He's like, or no, Wednesday morning I was like, yeah, I puked. And pft said, yeah, I puked. And Hank's like, yeah, I sneezed five times. There's a little.

[B]

Also, big cat's puke was probably just exercise related. My puke was just food related.

[A]

Well, mine was food and exercise.

[D]

I don't know why you keep saying concussion.

[A]

I, I, I, like, was just blanked on. Do you remember that dinner you said.

[D]

You got concussed from lack of oxygen?

[A]

Yeah, it's my brain.

[D]

I don't think that, that, that's not how concussions. You said that the other day without any context that it was like, yeah.

[B]

No, no, that's Max. It's, it's a form of cte. Can't think. Concussed.

[A]

Yeah, there you go. It's like I choked. I choked myself out for an extended period of time.

[B]

Can't think. Exercised. Cte.

[D]

Yeah, there we go.

[B]

Yeah. Cte.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, let's. Let's wrap up the show. Great. We'll do Wednesday. We'll. We'll clean up some stuff. We have Versilo NBA. Oh, actually, before we do that, let's, let's just look real quick at the DraftKings because, you know, it's always sad when football season's over and we have a long, long way. I'm happy for a break. We have a long way to next season. But do you want to look at the odds real quick?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Next season.

[B]

Seahawks are draftkings. They got to be favored.

[A]

Seahawks are 950, so nine and a half to one. Rams are nine and a half to one. Oh, Matthew Stafford. By the way, congrats on the MVP.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And he's coming back.

[B]

He won by one vote. One vote over Drake May. And that one vote might have gone to Justin Herbert.

[A]

Yeah, no, Sam Munson did say. Or what was. Who was it?

[B]

Yeah, it was Sam Watson. He's. He had. He voted Matthew Stafford second. So. Okay, so it would have gone to Matthew Stafford.

[A]

If not. People were really mad about that. I, I thought his reasoning wasn't like so bad that he, he, he said given the circumstances of what the Chargers were dealing with offensively, Justin Herbert was the most valuable player for a team that made the.

[C]

The playoffs.

[B]

He is. He's kind of going off the. The true sense of the MVP award.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, if you took Justin Herbert off the Chargers, they would be ass. Or than ass.

[A]

They would be mega. So bad.

[B]

Really. Ass.

[A]

And you could probably say the same for the Rams and the Patriots, but.

[B]

Yeah, probably.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I think you probably could. But Herbert was like a unique case in that he not only played really well, he got the kicked out of him all season. Yeah. So I disagree with the vote. I don't think that he was the mvp.

[A]

It did.

[B]

He's also the, the guy that made Jaden Daniels not the unanimous MVP last year. He likes to.

[A]

Oh, the rookie of the year.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, rookie. The offense rookie there. He likes to zig when people zag the.

[A]

The. I know that none of the playoff games count towards mvp, but it did end up becoming like after the fact. Good job. You got it right, voters. Because what Matthew Stafford was able to accomplish against the Seahawks defense in both the end of the season and the divisional round.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or, sorry, the conference championship game versus what Drake May was able to do against them. Yeah. Matthew Stafford, he played. He played the. The Seahawks defense. The best you could possibly play outside of. Actually remember that one shootout game. Baker Mayfield.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The Bucks went into Seattle and won early in the season.

[B]

That was. That was when Baker was on his weird.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like at the end of every game, looking at the odds, it looks like Hank. Oh, no. Hank is second on the pod in terms of Super Bowl.

[D]

No, tied.

[B]

Tied.

[A]

Tied.

[B]

Tied with the birds.

[D]

Eagles are 13 1, Patriots are 13 1.

[B]

I think now that Hank's gone, we can all admit, like, Hank was. Hank was right at the start of the year.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Patriots will be the best team on the podcast.

[A]

Hank.

[B]

Hank was.

[A]

He nailed it.

[B]

So.

[A]

Damn right. He knows ball.

[B]

He really does.

[A]

I know his ball.

[B]

Where are other teams on this list?

[A]

The Chargers are 15 to 1. Chiefs are 15 to 1. Commanders are 60 to 1. Bears are 25 to 1.

[D]

Okay, disrespect.

[A]

And Bucks are 40 to 1.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

Yeah, there is a lot of disrespect.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

And then the jets are 200 to 1.

[B]

Don't have a quarterback yet.

[A]

Yep, Those will skyrocket as soon as.

[B]

We figure out who that is and.

[D]

Who should take it.

[B]

We have 11 picks.

[D]

You should take it.

[B]

Patriots proved it's easy to turn around team.

[A]

We'll see.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Niners at 17 to 1 are the interesting one. I would say, out of just like the two interesting ones. Take your bias aside. So don't pick your own team. I would say the two interesting ones for me would be 49ers 171 and Jaguars 20 to 1.

[B]

Jaguars 20 to 1 is interesting. I would say the Ravens.

[A]

Broncos 19 to 1 is also very interesting.

[B]

Ravens are interesting.

[A]

I don't.

[D]

I think Chiefs 50, 15 to 1 is interesting.

[A]

But where's. Is Mahomes gonna be back for week one? Is he. That's probably not.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

That's a good question. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, I would say Ravens and. And Bucks might be interesting.

[A]

Gonna be fun to look at this. Listen, football can't get here fast enough.

[B]

Football's back.

[A]

Football's so back. Yeah, we'll do some of our off season resolutions and what we're gonna do with all of our time now that football season. Season is over on Wednesday show and then reminder Friday we're gonna be Tim woods, which was, I'll say right now, our best Dungeon and Dragons episode we've ever done.

[B]

Start to finish.

[A]

We were locked in. He changed it up. He gave us a different type of story storyline to do. Nick joined us. It was so, so much fun. So much fun.

[B]

We. It's a self contained episode. Usually there's like a cliffhanger.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because we don't get to the end of it this time it was like, okay, we're gonna start, we're gonna finish. And yeah, it was. It was very, very funny.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, let's do who's back of the week it is. Brought to you by Twisted tea. Twisted tea is refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted Tea is the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long. Whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or day drinking the with friends, Twisted tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time a great time. Grab a refreshing twisted tea today. We love twisted tea. We were drinking some last week. Hank probably had some this weekend. Partying before the Super Bowl. Twisted tea. Go grab it today. Original half and half the peach. All great choices. Every twisted tea is a great choice. So grab a refreshing twisted tea today. Pft. Your who's back of the week?

[B]

My who's back of the week is college basketball.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

College basketball. Basketball is back. It's the beautiful cycle of sports. Every year my calendar flips after the Super Bowl. I start caring about college basketball again. I watch one to two games a week leading up to the end of the football season. And then I just binge college basketball hard for the next, like, I don't know, month and a half, two months. And I'm excited for it to be back. It kicked off this weekend with Duke unc.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And college basketball rivalries are back. So not just because of the. The storming of the court.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which happened twice.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

In this game. But because her Queen Jordan was in attendance.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Queen Jordan was there.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

With Bill Belichick. And she was wearing an Orchids of Asia day spa shirt.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is the day spa that Robert Kraft got jacked off in.

[A]

Jordan of the year is open and shock.

[B]

Like, that's done it. Maybe Shirt of the year.

[A]

Early February. Jordan of the year has been wrapped up. All your other Jordans go home.

[B]

Yeah. I think that might be shirt of the year. Although sometimes the best shirts are the ones you don't wear. Ron. We still approve that.

[A]

The. Okay, so college basketball. So I want to talk about the Duke UNC game, but So I love college basketball. I watch it all like I love feast week. I'm watching nonstop this and Max, maybe you could back me up. This might be the best college basketball season we're having right now in a long, long time. It is so loaded at the top there are. You go eight deep. Of teams that feel like they are like juggernauts, like Arizona is the number one team. They're about. If you're jumping in right now, Arizona is undefeated. They're about to play an absolute gauntlet of a schedule like their schedule is about to. They have Houston, they have Kansas. They have everyone in front of them.

[D]

Coming up this tonight, tonight is Arizona.

[A]

Kansas, Michigan's awesome UConn who just lost to St. John. St. John's that was an electric atmosphere on Friday night at the Garden. And Rick Patino afterwards saying, like, you know, our curfew's 5am tonight. He was. You could tell that that meant something down year for, for the Big east, but still Yukon's very, very good. St. John's Villanova should make the tournament officially a lock.

[D]

Oh, according to Joe Leonardi.

[A]

Yeah. Duke good. They. They. They have lost in. You know, that was a epic choke and meltdown against unc. Illinois really good. Gonzaga did the thing where they basically looked awesome, got a little injured, but now they're cruising through. There's. There are just so many good teams in this college basketball team. Nebraska's awesome. It's just. If you're just getting into college basketball, this is going to be a really, really fun tournament.

[B]

I just like saying Nebraska ball.

[A]

Dude, they're. They're really good. I mean, they're. They're really, really good. Michigan State in can't. Kansas is coming on strong. There are so many good teams this year, and it's going to be such a fun tournament. Maybe not for upsets, but actually maybe so because it does. Like I said, you have like eight to 10 teams that you could feel pretty confident can. Can make a championship run. So a couple of those will get picked off and they'll be cons very significant upsets.

[B]

Yeah, I, I do like that the power conferences have great teams this year.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Very good teams.

[A]

The. So the Duke UNC game. God damn it. I. I love that John Shire is giving us this. That he is. He is roping me back into my Duke hatred. I thought he was going to die after Coach K stepped aside. But man, to have that loss where they choke down the stretch and then get in front of the podium and say, I don't. I Don't want to make it about the. He said. It's hard to talk about the game when I was most concerned for the safety of our players. I don't want to make it about that. But I got staff members that got punched in the face. That's not what this game is about. That was a scary ending. Has anyone seen any stat. I know there was a water bottle thrown, which if you go back to two years ago or last year, when UNC wanted Duke on Duke's court, there was water bottles being thrown at UNC players. So save me the bullshit. If you're a Duke fan who's pretending like this could never happen in Cameron, it absolutely could. I just love when Duke loses. They can't just lose. They have to make it about. You know, something I remember. What was the. What was the guy's name? Phil. Phil Paski.

[B]

Yeah, Phil Pask. I was about to ask.

[A]

Yeah. When he said he got, you know, punched.

[B]

He hasn't been the same player since that.

[A]

Yeah. It's just. It's so perfectly. Duke and Duke fans talking. They were. Duke fans were complaining about the foul. There's only one file called on UNC in the second half. Oh, my God. Could that ever. When is Duke ever. Duke always gets the bad whistle. There's never. This is it.

[B]

It shouldn't happen. The players shouldn't. The coaches getting punched in the face. Listen, if your coaching staff is getting punched in the face and beaten up by the UNC student section.

[A]

Still haven't seen a picture of the punch.

[B]

That, to me, is a skill issue right there.

[A]

Yeah, the. The. And then. And then Duke fans flipping to. You know, don't compare these two programs because they stormed the court. We would never. We're. We're a real blue blood. I just love it. I love it so much. Duke, a bunch of pricks that just can't lose a game and just lose a game. It has to. Has to be something bigger. That was always my problem with. With Coach K is when they lose, it has to be something bigger than just basketball. It has to be, you know, teaching men. Kids to become men or unsportsmanlike or this or that or the other. Just lose the game. You lost the game. You choked.

[B]

You guys too good of a program to be storming the court like that. Yeah, you should.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You should not think that beating us is that important to you.

[A]

I.

[B]

That's. That's always my favorite. Like, you should be better than that when coaches do that, because in a way, you're putting down Your own team. Yeah, for like making it. Making your team so such like a big juggernaut that another team wants to storm the court after they beat. You should want that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You should want that hatred from the other fans. The funniest part is when you try to storm the court and then you get like the lanyard all stars running out onto the court to tell them the game's not over yet. And then you just have like associate intern, athletic staff, department people just begging the students, like, go back to your seats. And then watching the word spread amongst the crowd that's already stormed the court, like, file orderly back to their seats, sit down, and then get ready to storm the court again the second time. It never has the same pop.

[A]

Good. I mean, it was actually a good job of UNC clearing that court. They should get credit for that.

[B]

They should.

[A]

Yeah. But it was just so perfect. It was such a great Saturday of college basketball. Except for what happened in Indiana. But I'm not going to complain about refs, but that was injustice what happened to the Badgers. And if we miss the tournament because of that, I'll be very, very upset either way. You had the Michigan State, Illinois game. The college basketball is at a great spot right now. If you are one of those people that says that, you know, the nil has ruined college sports and you don't know the guys on your team anymore, you can make that argument. I would make the counter argument for basketball, specifically the fact that we have nil and guys get paid. You have some super, super talented guys playing in college basketball now. Some European guys, some guys who are staying a little bit longer because it's, you know, make. They can make more money playing college basketball.

[B]

You got some pros that are playing.

[A]

College pros on Alabama.

[B]

Yeah. The game's never been stronger.

[A]

And then you have some phenomenal freshmen this year as well. It's going to be a loaded draft. So this is, if you are on the fence of what should I get into college basketball, I cannot stress it enough, is going to be awesome for the next five weeks. It has been awesome and it will continue to be awesome going into March.

[B]

I did like the quote from Greg Guard where he said this was a stolen win on stolen land. Yeah, he said this is a stolen win on stolen land.

[A]

Yeah, it was a crazy call, but whatever. And then, and then, and then what pissed me off more is that afterwards, if you zoom in and go slow mo their feet got tangled. That was not what the ref called. He didn't call a trip or Anything. But everyone's like, see, it was a trip. That was the right call. Whatever I got. I. I'm still shocked at 41 years old that I can have something like that happen on a Saturday at. It was the early game, so it was like one o' clock. And have it completely ruin the rest of my day. And I have to be more mature about it. I have to, like, I have to be more mature. No, I have to realize that you can't have something like that bother you to such a level that it ruins your day.

[D]

That's what sports are for.

[A]

I understand. But like, then I'm like, going and playing. I did play with my kids all afternoon, but I still. In the back of my head, I was like, I cannot believe that call happened when you're fighting for your tournament.

[C]

Life.

[A]

Pissed me off. Okay, my. Who's back of the week is Lindsey Vaughn. I said it last week, not. I hope she's okay. Is she okay?

[B]

She got airlifted off the mountain.

[A]

But was that airlift? Because, like, how else are you gonna get off the mountain?

[B]

I think airlifting off the mountain is what happens when you have a. A bad injury. It's not always like. It's not the same as getting airlifted off of a sidewalk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where it's like, we have to helicopter you to a hospital. But yeah, it's not good that she got that a helicopter had to take her away.

[A]

I feel bad for her. I hope she's okay. But I did kind of call it when I said that. I basically every time they say, hey, hey, Lindsay, Vaughn's about to ski him, it's. She's going to crash.

[B]

Which she's also like, I woke up.

[A]

And they're like, hey, Lizzie Vaughn competed this morning and she crashed.

[B]

She. The fact that she was in the Olympics and that she was competing was pretty amazing, given that she did not have an acl. She had a torn ACL and she was doing the slalom, which I'm not a skier, so maybe I'm way off base on that. It seems like that'd be a hard sport to compete in without an acl.

[A]

So, yeah, I feel really bad.

[B]

Credit to her for. For even going out there and trying it. And then I saw some people saying that it was unrelated to her acl. This crash was unreleated. I think it. It, you know, one thing leads to another when you're going down a mountain that fast. If she had an acl, actually, it probably makes it less likely that she crashes.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. I Just I. I feel like this goes for all of. Maybe it's just because I don't really. I'm not a big ski guy, but I just tune in. It's like, oh. And there's a crash. So I feel bad for. I hope she's okay. I think we won gold in the.

[B]

In skiing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

I'm pretty sure the. I'm pretty sure. Did we win gold in that?

[B]

We did.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

When does Team usa. We're.

[A]

Two gold medals. I need. Hold on. USA Hockey plays Thursday and Saturday.

[B]

Love that. Who are you playing?

[A]

2:44. I need 14 more gold medals to hit that bet.

[B]

I feel like we got the. The easiest group in hockey. Right? We should go. We should go. 2 and 1.

[A]

I really don't.

[B]

3, 0.

[A]

I. They started the Olympics out of nowhere. It felt like.

[B]

Well, the fact that they started before the super bowl, it's crazy. Yeah. Everybody's. I'm thinking about football.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't have time to think about curling.

[A]

Well, and also they got. I need. I need you to warm up. I don't. I don't want Lindsey Vaughn. I. Again, I wish she hadn't crashed. I don't need the. The giant slalom skiing happening like two days in the Olympics. Give me a little of that thing where they ski around and shoot at something. Give me the curl. Give me the. Give me the luge or the skeleton, whatever the fuck it is. Save the big dog sports. I want to see ski jump. I want to see giant slalom. I want to see bobsled.

[B]

Second week and we've got more. More of the ski jumping shenanigans. Have you been reading about what they're doing now?

[A]

Yeah. They're putting something in their penis.

[B]

They inject shit into their penises when they're getting fitted for the suits because it gives you like a little extra suit space.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which again, makes you fly a little bit further. So now they're gonna have to do like, standardized testing. All nude. You're gonna have like the piss test. People walk in and just make sure that they're not chubbing up before then. Yeah, yeah. We got Latvia on Thursday, Denmark Saturday, and then Germany on Sunday. In men's ice hockey. That seems like a group we should win. It seems like it's all signs pointing towards USA Canada.

[A]

Yeah, I'm ready for it. I have to get older here for it.

[B]

Busy, busy. Gotta go.

[A]

You gotta go. What do you got, Zach?

[E]

My who's back of the week is a dudes who want to space travel. Oh, you guys. You guys familiar? Like, Last couple years, SpaceX been talking about building the self, like, fulfilling colony on Mars, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

They pivoted to the moon, so we're.

[A]

Doing the moon first.

[E]

So instead of trying to build the colony on Mars, they're like, they've shifted focus to building it on the moon, which they say they can do in a decade instead of like 20 plus years.

[B]

What about that phrase, shoot for the moon? Even if you miss, you land upon the Mars. Why don't we just try to do that?

[A]

We went back to the moon. Yeah. When was that?

[E]

So we're doing them now. They're doing the moon, and you can go every, like, 10 days. Oh, so they're gonna build it super fast.

[B]

We're not actually on the moon yet, though.

[E]

No, they have. They haven't been back. Super recent. No. But, like, think about if we got the space station.

[B]

Mm.

[E]

And like, to do the Mars travel, it was. You could only go once every 26 months. When the planet's, like, aligned up, you can hit the moon every 10 days.

[A]

It is crazy to think about, like, a hundred and what do you say? 150 years ago, we didn't even have a. We didn't have cars. And then we went to the moon.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Credit to us.

[B]

Yeah. We did a good job.

[A]

We rock.

[E]

Now we're thinking about, like, apartments on the moon, right?

[B]

Apartments, Townhouses, sport football.

[A]

So there's no football, by the way. Zach.

[B]

There's no football on the moon. Like, I really don't think that you can watch TV on the moon.

[A]

Oh, they're gonna.

[E]

Oh, they'll get.

[A]

Goodell's gonna put a game on the moon, and Hank's gonna be like, it's a good idea.

[B]

We're gonna get the intergalactic audience.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Grow the game.

[A]

Yeah. Felt a little tickled my throat, Zach.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

You're on watch.

[B]

Feel like Max might not be here.

[A]

Your who's back of the week?

[D]

My who's back of the week is Hank toys.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It just so happened that we got a huge shipment in right when the game hit zeros tonight. So as of now, they're still in stock. I don't know. For now.

[B]

There's a lot of them.

[D]

We sold a whole lot of them, but we got a big shipment in. So we have a lot of stock, but we're running low. If you want your Hank toy, I know a lot of people were trying to get it when we first put it out for Black Friday. There are still some available as I say this right now. I hope that this. The people that really wanted them can hear this and go, buy. Buy it before it sells, because it's going to sell out. It's going to sell out quickly.

[B]

I want to make something very clear, though. It was not my idea to put these back up. It was not Max's idea to put these back up. It was not Big Cat's idea to put these back up. Memes. It was memes and memes. That's your decision. We recused ourselves. Conflict of interest. So can you just back us up that? Memes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

100.

[A]

My decision wasn't influenced at all.

[B]

Correct. A lot of people, the way that you just said it, the way you just said it made it seem like you were influenced, but you weren't.

[A]

No. Wasn't influenced at all.

[B]

Okay. All right, good.

[A]

Love that.

[D]

We just needed somebody to make the final decision. I'm happy that you stepped up.

[B]

Impartial. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like a lot of people.

[A]

Wanted a dog toy.

[B]

This just feels like a good time.

[A]

Perfect time.

[B]

No reason.

[A]

But, yeah, I'm happy. Dog.

[B]

Dogs are happy. Yeah, Dogs are happy.

[A]

Dogs are.

[B]

Dog owners are happy. We're all happy.

[A]

Yeah. Good job, memes. Good decision. Okay, boys, great show. Great football season. Like, we said Versilo on Wednesday and then Tim woods, and then we're back from vacation after that. Boys, we got a new lottery ball machine, and it is glorious. Holy, it's futuristic. I was. I came into the office before the super bowl and went to put something by my desk, and I almost, like, I, like, bumped into it, looked up. Love at first sight was like, whoa, how'd you get here? Lottery ball machine from the future.

[B]

Looks like a thick ass. R2D2.

[A]

Yeah. So none of us have gotten it on this before now. The only problem that we're gonna have to figure out is when you turn it on, it sounds like a lawnmower. And then it does get a little bit quieter, but we'll see if this works.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

Ready?

[B]

It's got blue balls, too, which is nice. Yeah, the thing hums.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, it just goes for this section. I don't hate the lawnmower.

[A]

No, no. But the problem is it does go silent and then comes back randomly.

[B]

It's carburetor or fuel injection.

[A]

All right, so you see, is there a ball right. There's a ball right there. Up top, 32. And then I think, whoa. That's how you put them back. Are you guys ready?

[B]

56. Those balls fly.

[D]

Good oh, my bad.

[A]

Numbers. 56.

[B]

No, Max, you can't do that because you lose. Your turn. 56.

[A]

Oh, wait. Why did that happen?

[B]

I think you guys said you guys say numbers earlier now. What was the number?

[A]

It was 71. Does not count.

[B]

All right. It doesn't count.

[A]

We're still figuring it out.

[B]

Wait, you gotta, you gotta declare numbers earlier now.

[A]

Okay, numbers.

[B]

3, 57, 6.

[A]

Oh, that thing is loud.

[D]

I can't, I can't. I have to go last.

[A]

Why do to go last?

[B]

Cuz he accidentally, he went early.

[A]

10, 23, 14. That thing is humming. It stops though. It's, it stopped for a while. 28, 88.

[D]

65. 27.

[A]

27.

[B]

You want to do one more? Since it's the first time. Yeah, break it in a little bit.

[A]

Look, see? It stopped. The sound stopped.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So I don't, I don't understand that. We're gonna have to figure that out.

[D]

This is fine.

[A]

You guys want to do the same? Same numbers?

[D]

Same numbers.

[B]

Same numbers. Yeah.

[A]

What did I say? 23.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Here it goes. It looks so good. Look at how flying. And it is. 54. Oh, damn. Okay, one more.

[B]

Happy birthday.

[A]

Wanna go one more?

[B]

We got to break it in. We got to break it in.

[A]

All right, last one. Last one. Last, last one. Same numbers, same numbers. You just want to get it first so bad. I, I, I'm the only one who.

[E]

Got it this year.

[A]

I just like that we're getting bigger and bigger until everyone gets it again.

[B]

No one's got it yet. News.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

31.

[B]

31. Happy birthday to Saquan Barkley, Cooper Dean and John Cru. Hell yeah.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Yeah, Philly. The big three.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

You guys are also no longer super bowl champions.

[D]

Yep.

[C]

That's.

[B]

Happy birthday though to Cooper Dean and Saquon.

[A]

Love you guys. Foreign.

[C]

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