Super Wild Card Weekend, Bears Comeback Over The Packers, Josh Allen Superman, Eagles Loss And Patriots/Rams Win + Who's Back Of The Week

Summary

Pardon My Take — Super Wild Card Weekend, Bears Comeback Over Packers, Josh Allen Superman, Eagles Loss & Patriots/Rams Win + Who's Back of the Week

Date: January 12, 2026
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Episode Focus: Recapping NFL Super Wild Card Weekend with in-depth breakdowns on the Bears’ comeback over the Packers, Josh Allen’s heroic game, the Eagles’ playoff flameout, the Patriots and Rams victories, plus “Who’s Back of the Week.”

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Main Theme

This episode is a celebration of Super Wild Card Weekend in the NFL, loaded with analysis, emotional highs and lows from the hosts (especially Big Cat on the Bears’ win), irreverent humor, fan-focused stories, and signature over-the-top recaps (“Fastest 2 Minutes”) for every playoff matchup. The show dives into the drama and narrative-shifting moments, from historic comebacks (Bears), superhuman efforts (Josh Allen), coach and player performances, to rivalry banter, and ends with weekly segments.

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Episode Structure & Key Segments

• [02:47] Fastest 2 Minutes: Hilarious, rapid recaps of all the weekend’s games (hosts and crew, full of puns and pop culture).
• [09:48] Rams vs Panthers Analysis: Detailed breakdown of the Rams’ narrow win and the Panthers’ impressive effort.
• [22:52] Bears vs Packers Deep Dive: Big Cat’s personal experience at the game, blow-by-blow of the Bears’ wild comeback.
• [66:32] Bills vs Jaguars Recap: Josh Allen’s Superman effort and how Jacksonville could’ve capitalized more.
• [80:00] 49ers vs Eagles Recap: Max’s view of the Eagles’ letdown, plus what’s next for Philly.
• [110:25] Patriots vs Chargers Recap: Game notes with Hank on New England’s win, plus a pain-filled Chargers fan perspective from Shane.
• [129:01] Indiana vs Oregon + College Football Take: Brief detour into CFB playoff dominance and fan reaction.
• [134:18] Who’s Back of the Week: Classic PMT segment with each host’s pop culture/sports “return.”
• [54:04] New Bears Good Luck Ritual: Breaking down their new pregame superstition.
• [58:14] Bears/Packers "Classless" Discourse: The social media meltdown after the Bears’ win and rivalry heat.

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Game-by-Game Highlights

[09:48] Rams 34, Panthers 31 — “Moral Victory for Carolina”

• The Rams survived a ferocious comeback from the Panthers, who were considered outmatched.
• Notable Quote:
  PFT(10:13): “It was kind of a moral victory for the Panthers. They’re back. They kept pounding... There’s no quit. Bryce Young was... pretty accurate for the most part.”
• Rams’ win came despite a possible finger injury to Matt Stafford (later clarified: not broken).
• Key Play: Puka Nacua’s CB-like play to prevent an INT, might have won the game for L.A.
• Panthers “fought hard in the second half. There was no quit.”
• Discussed Panthers’ decision to stick long-term with Bryce Young: “our guy, but not the guy.”

[22:52] Bears 31, Packers 27 — “A Rivalry Shifts”

• The Bears overcame an 18-point deficit behind thrilling heroics from rookie QB Caleb Williams.
• Big Cat’s Emotional Breakdown: Vivid details from being at Soldier Field: “Caleb Williams throw to Roma Dunes A is a throw that I’ve already watched a thousand times... special to watch. I love rooting for the guy. It’s such a joy.”
• Notable Quotes:
  • Big Cat [24:54]: “This was like their Mona Lisa... Their comebacks are just crazy.”
  • PFT [25:32] (on Packers goal-line series): “The Packers are just toying with us... ran three terrible goal line plays.”
• Ben Johnson’s coaching under scrutiny (questionable first-half calls, genius second-half adjustments).
• Bears’ recurring “never dead” mentality, including shoutouts to Loveland and Swift for clutch plays.
• Rivalry Note: “That’s a rivalry-shifting type of win... the Packers know now this is not the same old Bears.” — Big Cat [29:59]
• “Classless” postgame reaction to Ben Johnson’s “F*** the Packers” locker-room speech — hosts revel in the online rivalry drama.

[66:32] Bills 27, Jaguars 24 — “Josh Allen Superman”

• Josh Allen fights through injury, delivers an all-time dual-threat performance (273 pass, 2 rush TDs).
• Jags ran well, but could not control clock or keep Josh Allen off the field.
• Notable Quote:
  PFT [62:41]: “Josh Allen simply refused to admit he was hurt. He turned into Superman.”
• Postgame Jags future: optimism around Trevor Lawrence, Gladstone, and the recruited WR core.
• Reporter to Jags coach: Heartwarming, no-question “question” [72:37]: “Congratulations... you just hold your head up.”

[80:00] 49ers 23, Eagles 19 — “Eagles Offense Out of Ideas”

• Injury-plagued Niners find a way: big plays from DeMarcus Robinson, Juwan Jennings’ trick TD pass.
• Brock Purdy “did enough to win” despite some mistakes.
• For Eagles, Max expresses frustration at play calling, lack of creativity, and sideline drama (A.J. Brown clashes with Sirianni).
• Notable Quote:
  Max [88:58]: “It was exactly what we saw all season... the offense just absolutely failed.”

[110:25] Patriots 16, Chargers 3 — “Defense & Drake May Dominate”

• Pats get a classic Belichickian win: stifling defense, opportunistic play from rookie Drake May.
• Chargers’ O-line eviscerated, Justin Herbert shellacked — Chargers fan Shane devastated:
  *Shane [117:08]: “Pathetic, pathetic. This is the third playoff game in a row it felt like the Chargers lost the game as opposed to the other team beating them.”
• Anguish over continued mismanagement of Herbert, need to fire Roman/hire staff to leverage him.

[129:01] Indiana Dominance (CFB Playoff)

• PMT quickly hits on Indiana’s all-time CFB team, inspired by their utter destruction of Oregon.
• Debates over transfer portal, cheating allegations, and Indiana fans now being “the big dog.”

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Notable Quotes and Banter

• On the Bears:
  Big Cat [24:54]: “It was an all-time, all-time 25 points in the fourth quarter... We floated out of the stadium.”
• On Josh Allen (Bills):
  PFT [62:41]: “He just turned into Superman... In the playoffs, he just doesn’t care about being hurt.”
• On Bears-Packers Rivalry:
  Big Cat [29:59]: “That feels like a rivalry-shifting type of win. The Packers know now this is not the same old Bears.”
• On Social Media Rivalry:
  Big Cat [58:33]: “‘If you unironically claim someone is being classless, you’ve already lost.’”
• On Eagles’ Offensive Problems:
  Max [88:58]: “The offense just absolutely failed... Kevin Batullo has to be fired tomorrow.”
• On Chargers' Management of Herbert:
  Shane [117:08]: "Harbaugh needs to completely clear house offensively... it's looking grim right now."

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:47] Fastest 2 Minutes (all games)
• [09:48] Rams vs Panthers breakdown
• [14:10] Discussion on Panthers future/Bryce Young
• [22:52] Bears-Packers deep dive (Big Cat’s experience at the stadium)
• [35:20] Bears players/coaching decisions breakdown
• [54:04] New Bears pregame ritual (raw ramen & rumple mints)
• [58:14] Bears/Packers "classless" postgame debate
• [66:32] Bills-Jaguars recap
• [80:00] 49ers-Eagles recap (Eagles frustration, Max vents)
• [110:25] Patriots-Chargers recap (Hank & Shane)
• [129:01] Quick take on Indiana’s CFB dominance
• [134:18] Who’s Back of the Week (Golden Globes, laundry thieves, etc.)

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Memorable Moments & Fun Bits

• New Bears Ritual: Eating a brick of dry ramen and taking a shot of rumple minz before games—now required after the comeback win ([54:04]).
• "Classless Off": Hilarious breakdown of fans getting triggered by the Bears coach saying “F the Packers” postgame and reminders about real rivalry trash talk ([58:14]).
• On “Winning Is Good Now” Big Cat describes how he has to teach his kids about winning vs. tanking as the Bears enter a new era ([48:31]).
• PFT’s Laundry Saga Returns: Someone tried to steal PFT’s laundry again but discarded it mid-theft because “my clothes are so hideous not even a thief wants them.” ([140:12]).
• Trough Acquisition Mission: The guys are still hot on getting Highmark Stadium’s legendary urinal trough installed at Barstool HQ ([73:51]).
• Eagles Fans’ Window: The recurring pattern of Eagles seasons is lampooned, Max admits “there’s a theme here: win the Super Bowl, then lose in the first round.”
• College Football Cheating Discourse: PMT goes off on people alleging Indiana is "cheating" due to their dominance: "If you’re getting cheating allegations, you’ve made it."
• Golden Globes Bit: PMT didn’t win because they “never filled out the paperwork.” Lampoon how awards are for podcasting going mainstream, not real podcasters ([134:18]).

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Tone & Style

Classic PMT: Irreverent, self-aware, loose, full of running jokes, memes, and self-deprecation. Extended segments feature passionate, sometimes emotional, often hilarious rants and tangents. Big Cat’s Bears fandom is peak emotional rollercoaster. PFT’s football nerdiness and commitment to the bit are on display. Max’s Philly pain, Hank’s Boston confidence. Listener feels like part of the crew, not just an audience.

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For Superfans & First-timers Alike

• You’ll laugh, cringe at in-jokes, but stay caught up on every major NFL story from the weekend.
• The Bears-Packers discussion is the emotional and narrative heart of the show.
• “Who’s Back of the Week” and tangents on pod awards, pregame rituals, and more keep it lively.
• Avoidance of ad reads and sponsor plugs for the sake of the summary.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is peak playoff PMT: sports passion, inside jokes, off-the-rails banter, fandom catharsis, big rhetorical swings, and deep cuts on everything from football to urinals. If you missed Super Wild Card Weekend—or just need a Bears fan to scream “we’re not dead”—this one’s essential.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

Hey, Pardon My Take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My take presented by DraftKings, it is super Wild Card weekend and we've got a lot to discuss. The Bears incredible comeback over the Packers Panthers Rams played a great game. Jags Bills like incredible games. Patriots throttled the Chargers. The Eagles go out how the Eagles have gone all season long. We're going to start with fastest 2 minutes. We're also going to talk a little Indiana and Oregon from Friday night. Who's back of the week. It is a great Monday to talk football. We're on Netflix now so tune in there and it's all brought to you by our friends at Game Time. The Game Time app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets in experiences in just a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use and the Game Time guarantee means you can trust your you'll get 100% authentic tickets on time and at the best price. Plus fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. All you got to do I went to Bears packers on Saturday night. It was incredible. All you got to do is go to the Game Time app. You click on the event you want. They got all types of deals popping up. Just see where you want to sit. You can see what your seats are going to look like and then you pick your seats. Hank, are you looking at any seats for tell me what the Bears Rams games I'm going to go again. I'm going to go again on on Sunday. Do you got it for me? So you just go right now to Game Time.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Hank]

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[Zach]

Matthew Bevelock with Stafford wasn't in the.

[Big Cat]

Gray house up the road from the.

[Zach]

George Washington slept here house in Hackleberry State park. He was in the pocket dropping back before hitting Puka Puka who decided to.

[Big Cat]

Catch him all in the end zone for six points shortly after I now.

[Zach]

Pronounce you Chuba and Larry get gets all in zone curious wondering which way to swing I mean which way to score before ultimately deciding to run it in from one yard for a touchdown. But wait as the game clock continues to tick tock Bryce hall young wiggle dicks his way outside before tossing deep to Jalen hurts Coker who reminds us.

[Big Cat]

All that he didn't walk through the fire just to smell that smoke planting.

[Zach]

Two hot feet ten toes down in the end zone. Finally Dave Matthews Stafford band passes up pass down pass all around touchdown pass to Kobe parching Reckonson who would never half ass two things he'd whole ass one thing he'll get his whole entire ass in the end zone for six points. Los Angeles 34, Carolina 31 Great job Zach.

[Big Cat]

We head to Chicago where the Bears welcomed the packers for round three. In the first half, Jordan Courtney Love was the whole package experiencing football nirvana and being the Cobain of the Chicago defense existence out of the shotgun. Chromeo Dobbs shined and Matthew I've got a golden ticket scored making it seem like the Bears were about to kick the Charlie bucket. But in the words of my dear colleague Lee Corso, not so fast my friend because they play 60 minutes in a football game. The Bears came out in the second half, looked up and saw the deficit and pulled their best gas by saying 18. Yeah, you're fucked. Call the ambulance. But not for me. As Caleb Last Williams and Testament began to prepare the coffin for the Green Bay season, Colston I'm like Thomas Jefferson before the Louisiana Purchase because I love Land ripped the packers defense in the second half and it was D.J. please sir, may I have some more with the go ahead touchdown as the Bears complete the historic comeback and the Iceman delivers yet again. Speaking of ice, the post game between Matt Lafleur and Ben Johnson was cold blooded and I'm starting to think these two teams don't like each other. Bears 31, Packers 27 what? What?

[PFT Commenter]

We go down to Duval where the Jaguars attempt to win their ninth in a row and the Bills are trying to get their first road playoff win since Hanks stopped being dead. The game started with a Trevoisier Lawrence as he tried to get his receiver some cone yak and took a really gross shot leading to a love Shaq Thompson was a little bitty place where we get interceptions. Love Shaq Baby. It led to a field goal by Matt Prater. Boy, who said, see you later, boy. The kick is up. It's good for sure. The Jaguars responded as Brian Thompson, Brian Thomas Jr. Soprano had all the makings of a varsity athlete for an early score. Meanwhile, Facial Tootin found a couple of glory holes and wasn't afraid to get his nose dirty while the Bonnie Blue Uffalo Bills stuffed a bunch of dudes in the box to try to bottle up Travis 18 men. Josh Allen Ginsberg was howling in pain early trying to beat the Jags, and he's seen the greatest minds of his generation destroyed by madness and Patrick Mahomes. Jacksonville fought back as Trevor kept going back to Old Faithful at Yosemite National, Parker, Washington. But the Bills wouldn't be stopped as they added another score and interception, sealing the game. The boys in teal looked over at Sean McCurmon and said, it's not easy being green. And no one circles the wagons like The Buffalo Bills bows 27, the Jaguars 24.

[Big Cat]

Now we head to Max in Philadelphia.

[Max]

We head to Philadelphia where DeMarcus Craig Robinson started off the game telling the Eagles, this is the end of your season by dominating the opening drive, leading to a touchdown and an early lead. But the Eagles responded with W's in the chat when Dallas Cotter dropped a nuke into the end zone to tie the game. But wait. Do you smell it?

[Big Cat]

That smell.

[Max]

That kind of smelly smell. That smelly smell.

[Big Cat]

That smells smelly. Smelly.

[Max]

It misses an extra point and San Francisco holds the lead after another Goddard touchdown and a chance to extend a Jason Statham. Brown was not looking fast, but sure was furious with Nick Sirianni as he tried to fight him on the sideline.

[Big Cat]

After a big drop.

[Max]

The Eagles defense was able to keep it close for most of the game, in large part because of Quenyance Mitchell, who proved himself to be irreplaceable after another dominant game with two interceptions. But the big play that put the nail in the coffin for the Eagles was Juwan Greg Jennings putting the team on his back doe by throwing an absolute.to McCaffrey. Niners 23, Eagles 19.

[Big Cat]

Thanks, Max. We finished with Sunday night football in Foxborough and Henry Lockwood over to Gillette.

[Hank]

For a classic defensive battle day on Russell Henley had a perfect read on.

[Big Cat]

An early Drake May ball to give.

[Hank]

The Chargers the ball on the 10, but they four putted and turned the ball over. Cameron Dicker was long and girthy and got the scoring starter with a menage.

[Big Cat]

Trois Drake 50 shades of gray was.

[Hank]

Bending over the Chargers D with his legs and his arms but couldn't convert anything in the end zone leaving Andy Aurora Baragalis to score the first six points for the Patriots. Justin Sherbert was soft serve and getting creamed all game by the PAT defense before Hunter Henry Lockwood told Shane and the ball club to kiss the rings after scoring the game winning touchdown pass.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And the Rams got the ball and you're like, okay, this is about to be 247 going into half. And then they stopped him on, on 4th and 3 on like the 20 yard line. And then Bryce Young took him down the field, scored the rushing touchdown. It was like, oh, fuck. This is actually a game. The Panthers are not going to just go away like that.

[PFT Commenter]

No, they were lively. The Panthers fought hard. I know, Canala said after the game. There's no such thing as moral victories. That is what a coach says when you just had a massive moral victory.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And it was kind of a moral victory for the Panthers. They're back. They kept pounding. Cam Newton came out there, beat the drum. I thought he was going to shatter it when he, when he hit it. I think the only dude to shatter that drum was Mike Tolber.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

He should be the Full time. Keep pounding drum guy. Yeah. Cause he's got, he's got the bat speed for it. But yeah, the Panthers, they played well in the second half. There was no quit. Bryce Young was. He was pretty accurate for the most part. He was. They were saying he should stop playing with fear. I actually think Bryce Young plays at his best when he's deeply fearful.

[Big Cat]

Just a little bit of fear.

[PFT Commenter]

He has to have fear because he, when he got to the NFL, you remember the thing he would do the most, he would be in the pocket and he'd feel like a little bit of pressure and they'd start to like leave the pocket, but kind of casually.

[Max]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Like he did in college.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And then he learned, oh, shit, these guys are huge. I'm small, they're probably going to hurt me. And that's when he has a little bit of fear and that's when he kind of plays a little bit. I think he plays faster when, when he's scared somehow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Watching it back, it felt like he started to use his legs more to kind of unlocked everything.

[PFT Commenter]

It was great. And then, and then Coker is developed into an awesome wide receiver. He's a, he's a very good guy to have on the outside to, to team up with T. Mac or Tet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, the Panthers played really well in the second half. And then I thought the play of the game was actually made by Puka. So Puka had two game changing plays where he did not catch the ball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

One was in the first half when he dropped a surefire touchdown.

[Big Cat]

That was after they had made it 1714. You're like, oh, it's gonna be like, no, wait. The Rams could actually go down and score here. And that, that was a wide open down the sideline seed for maybe drop.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe the, the best player in football, maybe the best receiver in football to just drop. That was kind of crazy. And then for some reason after he drops it, Puka just takes like two steps, falls to the ground, doesn't even like brace himself on the fall and he falls directly onto his head. Yeah. And then everybody was like, is this guy, is he banged up? Is he concussed right now? But then in the second half, I thought the play of the game was when he turned into a cornerback. And yeah, Matt Stafford broke it up.

[Big Cat]

In the end zone.

[PFT Commenter]

Matt Stafford had a terrible, terrible overthrow and he was dealing with maybe a finger. People were speculating maybe he broke his finger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Which finger did he break?

[PFT Commenter]

It looked like it was his right index finger. That's significant following through. And. And they were saying that's the last finger for his throwing style. That's the last finger that touches the football. So that's the important one. And it was a terrible pass that he made through to the end zone. And then Puka turns into a defensive back, breaks up an interception, which probably. Probably won the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

For the Rams.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah, the fourth quarter was crazy. And. And then the Rams got into a little bit of a rhythm on offense. They end up finding Parkinson in the end zone.

[Big Cat]

That was an unbelievable throw and catch. That was like. That was the. Matt Stafford. Because I, He. I know he. He was dicing him up in the middle of the field. The. The stuff like that. That pass he missed to Devonte Adams. I think it was maybe in the first half where he just like Devonte Adams was very open. He just overthrew him, but it felt like he was middle of the field. He was just killing him sidelines. It wasn't. It was not crisp. And then that pass to Kobe Parkinson was. You. You can't put it in a better spot and then you can't make a better catch.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty incredible. And you're right about throwing to the outside. Like he, he was terrible to the outside, but the middle of the field is where all the space was. And. And they did a good job exploiting that. There was. There was definitely a talent gap between these two teams.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But I thought like, yeah, this is a moral victory for the Panthers to keep it that close and to feel like they had a chance to win the game in the fourth quarter. The. The Panthers were the only playoff team that did not have a first or second team all pro selection. Wow. On their squad. So I credit to the Panthers, they fought and they. They thought that they were going to get the rain. There was no rain. No rain, unfortunately for the Panthers because that. That probably would have made things even more difficult on Matt Stafford. But yeah, big time moral victory. I. I say that in the, in the playoff bracket of moral victories and effort, the Panthers move on to the second round.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The, the.

[Big Cat]

Because no one gave him a shot in this game. And you were asking yourself, you know, they're an 8, 9 team going into the playoffs and you're asking yourself, is Bryce Young the guy. I feel like he made throws and plays in this game in high leverage situations where you're like, this guy can be the guy. And the Panthers overall, like the arrows pointing up for them. And again they. They were. They were leading this game with Two and a half minutes left. It was like, it was like, holy shit, this is actually going to happen. It just so happens that Matthew Stafford was like, hey, I, I am still one of the best quarterbacks and I'm going to lead us down the field. And he did it perfectly. It was unfortunate that they, when the Panthers got the ball back because I think I, I tweeted at the time, too much time for Bryce Young. I don't think they gained a yard.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

So it was, it was actually, I.

[PFT Commenter]

Think he went over four.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There, there actually could have been way more time.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It still would have been fine.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The, the Bryce Young thing. Adam Schefter reported that they're, they're going to give him the fifth year option on his contract.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that puts him firmly. I don't know that he's the guy, but for the Panthers, I think he's our guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, we got our guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's not. We got the guy.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a big difference between our guy and the guy. Our guy is better than. We're in quarterback purgatory.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Or we're going back to the draft.

[Big Cat]

It's better than we think we have our guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we think we have our guy. I think they can confidently say they have their guy.

[Big Cat]

Right. And you wonder. Yeah. Like what the contract would look like after the, you know, after his five years are up. If you could figure it out, that you could build the team. Yeah. The arrows pointing up and they have, they have, like you said, Coker and T. Mac. Like they have guys and they're running game. But I think so. So let's talk about the Rams real quick because the Rams are, it's. Everyone keeps saying they're the best team in the NFL, even, you know, because they had those two games against the Seahawks and one of them, you know, the one in Seattle, if you call a fumble a backwards fumble differently on a two point conversion, they win that game. Are, Are we sure that they're okay? Because they keep having these games where it's like. And maybe this is just their M.O. and, and their, their defense is not that great. And they, I mean, the special teams like that block punt, you can't have that. But they still have Matthew Stafford and Puka Naku and Devonte Adams to bail them out and Kyron Williams. But it's, it's weird because you would. If you're a Rams fan, you're probably not feeling super confident after a playoff win just in the fact that the Rams are definitely in that tier of super bowl or bust. It's. It's. It's grading it on that, that scale. It's not. I'm not saying the Rams are bad. I'm just saying, can they win the Super Bowl?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the. The Rams, they did make what felt like a. A panic move after that game. They fired their special teams coordinator.

[Big Cat]

They just did.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They just.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

Not like. No, not like right now.

[Big Cat]

Oh, after the Seahawks. I was just say that would be crazy if they did. I. I forgot they did that. That would be nuts. Firing coach in the playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. In terms of blowing it up. That. That would be the biggest blow it up of all time for a guy named McVeigh. Yeah, I'm looking at. I'm looking at the Rams schedule for the last, like, couple months here. Their. Their defense was great at the start of the year. Yeah, they were really, really good. And then starting with that Panthers game, things kind of fell off the rails a little bit. They gave up 31 to the Panthers, 30, 34 to the Lions, 37 to the Seahawks, 27 to the Falcons, 20 to the Cardinals. So they. Their defense is different now.

[Big Cat]

It's not.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not dominant.

[Big Cat]

Well, I think if you're a Rams fan, you thought Quinton Lake, it can kind of go with where Quentin Lake got injured, because he got injured after the first Rams game, and he's very important to their secondary and everything they do. And then he. He came back for this game. So you're like, okay, this is going to change anything. You know, like one of our best players playing safety kind of clean things up. But it, again, it also was the. The Panthers did have some short fields.

[Hank]

I.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy. I mean, it was just. It was a crazy game where I. I feel like the Panthers were right there, and it was almost just the most shocking start to super wild card weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought they were going to keep it competitive. I didn't think that they were going to be in a place where it felt for a while like the Panthers were going to win this football game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it really did. It really did. I didn't know, by the way, that Cam Newton and the Panthers had, like, a big falling out.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I heard rumblings of it, but I didn't know how. How severe it was until he was banging the drum and they were on the broadcast. They were just like, yeah, it's. It's crazy. He's here. This is awesome. He's here.

[PFT Commenter]

I think at some point was It. When they brought him back, the ownership made a choice between him and Ron Rivera. But remember, I think they went. They went heavy on Ron, but remember.

[Big Cat]

They brought him back after he played for the Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because remember, he won that one game, and then I think that ended poorly. That's how it ended poorly.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because usually, like, when a team brings that guy back, you're like, okay, well, at least this will end correctly because they brought him back even though he was kind of cooked.

[PFT Commenter]

But they're saying that. That now this opens the door for him to become, like, get inducted into the Ring of Honor, which Cam Newton.

[Big Cat]

If.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're the Panthers and you don't have Cam Newton in your Ring of Honor. The entire Ring of honor is illegitimate.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. He has to be the number one guy in the ring. Yes, it was. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I saw the Rams. They posted on. On X. The Everything app. It's all happening on X. The. The meme of the Lion King where they actually threw the Panther off. Pride Rock. Because remember the fan fiction going into it.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So they. They. They murdered the Panther.

[Big Cat]

They.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, they did, yeah. Got trampled by wilder beasts.

[Big Cat]

Devonte Adams looks like he's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

I think so.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He's very important.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd be more concerned with Matt Stafford's finger. Yeah, they said that it's not broken, but he. He did not look like himself for the most part in the second half.

[Big Cat]

So do we have. Did we get an update on the finger?

[PFT Commenter]

I. I saw one tweet that said that they didn't think it was broken.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so then it's not broken.

[PFT Commenter]

It might not be broken.

[Hank]

He was making some bad throws, though, in the second half, like, over the middle. He made good ones in the past. At the end was, like, one of the best throws of the game, but some. He had some crazy, like, over and under throws where it's like, something's got to be wrong with this finger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he said. Devonte Adams was asked after the game what he said to the. To the fellas before the last drive. He said, let's. Let's go snatch these guys hearts. That's probably as. As mean as Matthew Stafford can get. He doesn't seem like a mean guy.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So Golden Tate gave kind of a little bit of a glimpse into Matt Stafford's psyche, and he said one time Stafford messed up a finger on his throwing hand. I checked in on him, like, you good? He said, bro, I'm straight. I got nine other fingers. He's different. So he's got nine other fingers. Actually, we need Jerry. Jerry. O', Connell, listen to Kelly Stafford's podcast this week. See if she says anything about Matt's fingers. How's it going?

[Big Cat]

Let's get well, Jerry's in South Africa.

[PFT Commenter]

South Africa.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wait. What did he say? That was four.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah, he said he gave us.

[Big Cat]

A four air, not for air type of thing.

[PFT Commenter]

It was. Every woman here is hot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he. Jerry, text. Where. Where is it? The women are insanely hot, period. All caps for period air, period. So he wanted us to say that South.

[PFT Commenter]

South Africa, per rap sheet, X rays were negative on Matt Stafford's finger.

[Big Cat]

I can't wait till Shafter comes out and says they were positive. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

After delivering an MVP like performance. Wow, Hank, I just threw that in there.

[Big Cat]

I mean, the MVP voting's done.

[Hank]

It is done. It was funny that some. It was. The lines were changing, which makes no sense, but they were. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

By the way, we're taping this before the start of the Bills Jags game. That's why you. You'll see when we. When we go. Throughout the course of the show, moods might change. I had. I was.

[Hank]

I was ready getting some not my mvp, you know, stuff Loaded as the second half was going, and it felt like the Panthers were going to win, but that throw at the end was like an all time throw.

[Big Cat]

All time throw.

[PFT Commenter]

So, Hank, your. Your mortal enemy, the guy that you say writes the most disgusting fake fan fiction in the NFL. Mike Florio.

[Big Cat]

Mm.

[PFT Commenter]

He gave Drake May the mvp.

[Hank]

Love that. So listen, Florio on twice a day.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Florio on one side, then you got Tom Brady on the other. Which one you gonna go with?

[Hank]

Oh, no, I'm not worried about the mvp. I'm worried about the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

You're boxed as.

[Hank]

As this game is already over.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, people are going to be very confused when they see this. But again, I actually like that we're doing this because we're gonna get. We could get two different Maxes and Hanks.

[Max]

Yeah, you. You literally just said I had tweets loaded saying that.

[Big Cat]

Not my mvp.

[Max]

But you're not worried about the mvp.

[Big Cat]

This. Oh, no. This is the MVP stats all over again.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah, I'm not worried about it, but I'm still at a tweet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's true.

[PFT Commenter]

He didn't say he was worried. Yeah, sounds like a guy who's not worried. Actually, he's loose.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Should we talk about the night game?

[PFT Commenter]

Congrats.

[Big Cat]

Big cat pairs 31, packers 27. I was there Memes and Zach were with me. I don't really know where to start because I'm still kind of in shock. I'll start. I guess I'll start with I. I love Caleb Williams. He is. That was just. It was insane. It was insane. I don't think this Bears team this season has. Has proven to us that they're never dead, but they also have pushed the limit into how bad they can look at times to, to then still come back and still be alive. Because that first half was as bad as you can look on a football field, especially defensively where it was like, how is this possible? Like, I know our defense is not good, but every single Packer was open every single play. And then the second half starts and usually that's when the Bears will start like this team, this iteration of this team will start to put the pedal to the metal. And it still took a while because it was like field goal, field goal. That fourth and one interception. So they kept on dying but never being dead. And it was just an all time, all time 25 points in the, in, in the fourth quarter. Caleb Williams throw to Roma Dunes A is a throw that I've already watched a thousand times. I will watch it probably 10,000 more times. He didn't have either foot on the ground on a fourth and eight with five and a half minutes left where if he doesn't complete that, the game is over, the game is over. And yeah, I, I'm sure I'll just brain dump a bunch of stuff as we keep talking about it because I'll forget a bunch of stuff. But it was an all time moment. It was all time game. We floated out of the stadium. I mean memes we said how many times I say we're not dead in the second half. I must have said it like 150 times. Probably. Yeah, no, a thousand times. And, and, and I, I probably only believed it like five times. I was just, I was doing the trying to act tough like big boy thing where it's like we're not dead, we're not dead. But we're. They're not, they're never dead. And Ben Johnson also like the, the, the first half, he had a really bad game to like he. That, that going forward on 4th and 2 on the 30 yard line when it's already a 143 game reeked of desperation, which partially is. Was true because the defense couldn't get a stop. But that was a head scratcher. But something about this team, they go into halftime, Dennis Allen, whatever he did to get to get this team, this defense, to make stops. Cause that was the other thing. Like as they didn't get the ball, they didn't turn the ball over, which is a key to my key to victory for the Bears. They got, they forced three fumbles. Didn't recover any of them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Dead insanely bad turnover luck. The one. Where was it Christian Watson jumping in the end zone. Yeah. And he fumbled the ball through. Listen, that's, that's why you play down to the 1 inch line. That was a great play by the defense to force that fumble on like a kind of a broken coverage. When that ball trickled through the end zone in the gambling cave, I was sitting behind Chief White Sox Dave and Mikey Betts. And for pretty much the entire fourth quarter, I didn't really see much of the game because every play they would just jump out of their seats.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because something crazy was happening. But when that ball started going through the end zone, that felt like that was a momentum changing play. And then they recover it in the end zone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Can't recover an advanced fumble, but the ball's still like at the one yard line, whatever.

[Big Cat]

And they went to fourth down on that fourth and goal on the one. And that was when I was like. I think I said, I think we, we had the clip. Whereas I said the packers are just toying with us because they went, they, they, they ran three terrible goal line plays. Yeah. And they're like, ah, you know what, we'll just do the play where the guy's wide open.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You gotta, you gotta work on fumble recovery. Because they got the, the packers had at least two fumbles.

[Big Cat]

Oh, the big man fumble was the most fumble that's ever fumbled. Because we were sitting there, it was right in front of us, and he was fumbling for like five full seconds. He was fumbling before he had fumbled.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We already all knew that he was about to fumble. And then we kicked the ball and it goes out of bounds and. Yeah. I mean, you can't say we didn't get breaks because McManus was dog shit. He saved the game for the Bears. Yeah, he missed the kick to end the half after he had made it and the timeout was called. He missed the kick or he missed an extra point. Then he missed the kick to go up six. He was terrible.

[PFT Commenter]

He said he's embarrassed. He said that's the most embarrassed he's ever been on the football field. He should be embarrassed. That was a bad, bad job. The extra point was just, just a Terrible kick. Just like lined up completely incorrectly on that one.

[Big Cat]

He just kept on giving us life because that was an extra point to go up 12 instead of 11.

[PFT Commenter]

So. So the Bears, obviously, this was like their, their Mona Lisa in terms of. Of comebacks and in terms of just completely flipping the switch. There is a lot of room for criticism for Ben Johnson.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Especially for that first half.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, he didn't have his best game.

[PFT Commenter]

What, what he's done in his last two playoff games. He. He gets very cute with it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Sometimes it's okay to just run the football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You've got, you've got a good offensive line. You've got two good running backs. It's okay if, if they stop you for like a 1 yard gain. It's okay to try to run the football normally again instead of putting like DJ Moore in the backfield and having like three tight ends do some sort of mesh concept. Like, he gets, he gets itchy. It's like the older he gets, he tries to get more cute with it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The fourth and one in the third quarter where it's like just run the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And.

[Big Cat]

And that was interception. I mean, Caleb's two interceptions were both on fourth down. The first one was basically a pun. I cannot believe the packers caught that.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a great interception.

[Big Cat]

That was an insane.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That he didn't just knock it down. But as for Caleb Williams, like, I. It almost is so perfect that he finished this game exactly 50 completion percentage. Because that's basically been the whole conversation this year is like he has. He's has these wow moments. He's incredible, but he can't do it consistently and he can't take the easy ones and his completion percentage sucks and all that. It doesn't matter with Caleb Williams.

[Hank]

He.

[Big Cat]

This guy has something about him that I think the whole team feeds off. And it. It just like he was getting smashed play after play, rolled his ankle every single. Like he. He's just. Next play. The next play is the biggest play and you could play a dog shit half and it doesn't matter to him. He just will come up with the big moments in like time and time again. And it's special to watch. Like, I think it's just a special quality that's partly magic, partly obviously skill that I think everyone feeds off of and gives the whole stadium was. I mean, it was. You could just feel it in the, in the third quarter where it was like everyone kind of doing the math. Like, all right, two possession game. Like we're. And like it just started to. To build and build and build until it got to this crazy like the stadium's rocking and everyone's going nuts and. And he's got every. He's got the packers on the ropes and it's special. I don't really know what else to say. I love rooting for the guy. It's such a joy. And he's so, so special. And it was. It was an awesome, awesome night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So the, the fourth downplay by Caleb, that throw. Oh, you know who that looked like, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Rogers.

[PFT Commenter]

That looked like Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, that was an Aaron Rodgers play.

[Big Cat]

And that and this. Listen, we. Knee jerk reactions obviously can sometimes blow up in your face, but I do believe this. I think that's a. The. A rivalry like shifting type of win where the way the Bears came back, the fact that it was two and two in the last four games, the fact that they split this year and the DJ Moore, you know, the, the Caleb interception in. In Green bay, then the D.J. moore touchdown in Chicago to have it be round three, to have the packers look like it was going to be. Same old story, the packers own the Bears. To then have Caleb Williams do that type of stuff and be that special. That feels like the, the. It has shifted. And it's like the packers know that this is not the same old Bears. This is not, you know, whatever quarterback you want to throw out there. Caleb has something like Rogers that's different.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I got a question about DJ Moore for you. Yeah, it. Does he get hurt on every play?

[Big Cat]

He does. He's banged up, by the way. So Ben Johnson, bad game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

One of the best play calls ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

For that DJ Moore touchdown where they had shown that Luther Burden screen pass earlier in the game. And that was the packers bit on.

[PFT Commenter]

That so hard they got the exact result that they wanted. The second cornerback just saw. Saw the little stutter in the backfield by Burden.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he just took two steps forward and then Moore was gone. That was an awesome play. I also thought that when. When Ben Johnson in the second half, it might have been on the two point conversion or it was around the goal line, but he put in the three tight end set.

[Zach]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Smythe and then split them all out wide.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

That is a. That's a dangerous formation that the Bears should go back to more often because it feels like that's very hard to stop.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so can I give some shout outs to just some things that. That I noticed that needed. Needed shout outs. Montez sweat was, you know, it won't show up in terms of stats, but the Bears have desperately needed a pass rush for this entire season and he did come up big. Harassing Jordan Love and getting in his face. We had a couple intentional groundings. I also don't know why the pack. We can talk about the packers in a minute and like what lafleur and all that stuff. I don't know why they were in shotgun for the entire second half. Yeah, they were under center for the entire first half and they diced us and then they went into shotgun and it was like a completely different game. Colston Loveland, again, knee jerks could look stupid. Colson Loveland has the potential to be one of the best tight ends in the NFL. He is so good and he is such a matchup problem. He was. It was basically.

[Hank]

He was his go to.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was the. It was basically we need to play the Colson Loveland button. That was it ever over and over and over. It was crazy watching him like again, we had incredible seats. Shout out game time. We were sitting. We were sitting 50 yard line right behind the camera. Well, so we had no one in front of us. So we had the cameras, like the actual cameras that, that were doing the broadcast. So we're basically watching in all 22. And Colson Loveland, there wasn't a Packer that could guard him. Yeah, it was crazy watching him. DeAndre Swift, he's been maligned at some times. He's had an incredible season. Going into this season, I think there was a lot of like, well, Ben Johnson doesn't have his running back yet, but we'll use DeAndre Swift. DeAndre Swift had three plays that stuck out. One was the. On second and ten. I want to say it was. I can't remember the exact score, but it was second and 10 with like five minutes left. He catches that screen pass and has to reverse field. Yeah. And like he was dead to rights. Caleb actually led block for him. He catches that screen pass, reverses field, makes it all the way to the. He gets a seven yard gain out of it, makes it third and three and then is third and three on the goal line. You're able to actually run the ball. He then runs in the touchdown. Like if he doesn't. If he gets taken down right there on second and 10 on the goal line, we're kind of there. Cause now you have like it's third and 10 and you don't, you know, everything changes. We. That was an incredible play. And then he also had that play where he got like 20 yards on the last drive, the DJ Moore touchdown drive where he got that ball on the sideline and he got like 20 yards to get us into field goal range where we could then take the shot. Yeah, he was awesome. Ozzie Trillo, who. Terrible. He got hurt. He.

[PFT Commenter]

He.

[Big Cat]

I think he tore his patellar, which. That's like a terrible, terrible injury. I don't know if you guys noticed. I don't know if they had it on the broadcast. He was able to get off the field and not burn a timeout because I think it was in the zone where you had to burn a time out. Timeout for an injured player. 10 second runoff or a timeout. He. He hopped off the field with a torn pateller.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty crazy.

[Big Cat]

It was insane. One leg. So he's gonna be out, which sucks because he's obviously played very well. And Theo Benedict's gonna have to step up and maybe Braxton Jones. But like, that was just an underrated. How do you do that? Like, that's. Because then the packers had a. Had to a 10 second runoff on their last drive.

[PFT Commenter]

So, yeah, they. They had that injury that ended up costing him big. That took it from 32 seconds to 22 seconds, which was. It was massive in that. That one part of the game. Also the packers getting a delay of game out of a timeout. I know was crazy by Leflore. Yeah, that is crazy. Who is the. Who's the offensive lineman that ran that route at wide receiver for. For the Bears?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

When they split him out wide, was that a backup?

[Big Cat]

That is. It is always tough watching in the, like being at the game because you just get. You get one quick replay and that's it.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a. That was an incredible route that he ran.

[Big Cat]

Memes showed me him chugging down the field.

[PFT Commenter]

I thought he was pretty good. I think if. Listen.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it might have been Theo Benedict.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Theo Benedict.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, Caleb Williams, you had a great game. Super impressive comeback.

[Big Cat]

It was Theo Benedict.

[PFT Commenter]

Super impressive comeback. You gotta air that ball out to Theo Benedict. That dude ran a great route down the seam. You got to pass him that ball. Come on, Caleb. Don't be a coward.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was. It was a special night. I mean, Memes and Zach, do you guys want to fill in anything? You were there for the whole time they're talking to each other. Do you guys. Do you guys have any notes from the game?

[Zach]

First half was terrifyingly all Packers. Look like we're going to have a tough evening. And then They, I don't know. What do you guys think that packers halftime look like? Because they just came out completely different team and just got absolutely walked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I, well, there's, I mean, the packers, if you look at it, I do think the lafleur discussion becomes very real now because he's got a year left on his contract. So you either have to sign him. I think weirdly, if he had two years left, he wouldn't be fired, if that makes sense. But because he has one year, you have to make the decision. And the packers are known like, hey, we're not going into a lame duck season. They do. He coaches different with a lead. That's just a fact.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And you saw it like they had the chance to kill us so many times and they didn't do it. If they had just gone. It's as simple as the start of the second quarter. If they go on a five minute drive, that gets them three points.

[PFT Commenter]

So what was the, what was the difference in yardages in the first half? Cause I know that The Bears had 333 yards in the SEC in the second half. Right. The first half, the offense looked okay for the Bears. They just, they kept sputtering out once they got around like the 30 yard line.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

The 20 yard line. But then in the second half, they finished all those drives. The packers went three and out three times. Then the delay of game obviously was really bad. And then more clock management stuff with like taking the time out on defense.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

There were a lot of questionable decisions by Matt LaFleur.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

In this game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He did bad clock management. I actually thought Ben Johnson, again, as bad as the first half was, he had very good clock management. Yeah. Calling that timeout with like, whatever it was, three minutes left. He burned two timeouts before the two minute warning and gave us a shot.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, they, they, the packers burned a timeout with 2:07 left on defense. Yeah. And that was crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

That was insane. Yeah. There's a lot of, a lot of things that you can point out about the job LaFleur did in this game. Then the post game handshake. I thought it was tied 1:1 on the season.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Between Johnson and LaFleur. Ben Johnson just ripped past him. Just the sprint by handshake of all. Sprint by handshakes. Embarrassing for Leflore who was standing there, like waiting.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Upright.

[Big Cat]

He thought maybe like, oh, yeah, listen, we, we had our shit, but now the season's over.

[PFT Commenter]

He was hoping for like a little embrace, like, hey, game respect. Game Iron sharpens iron. Ben Johnson was just like, fuck you. See you. Yeah, it was a great handshake by.

[Big Cat]

Ben Johnson and saying, fuck the packers in the locker room after. I love that. And saying, you know, we heard a lot of noise and I saw some packers fans being like, what are they talking about, noise? There was a little bit of. They were talking about the hit on Jordan Love and how it was like, we're going to get revenge for it. Jeff Halfley said to the media scrum, I, it's not goodbye. I'm going to see you guys next week when we win. Christian Watson, I believe, said he wanted the Bears. So, like, there was enough. And, And I'm not saying that the packers got out of line with their statements, but it's. It's pro sports. You find whatever motivation you can find. You make bulletin board material out of anything.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think they had any saved bulletin board stuff for halftime?

[Big Cat]

Maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

Because it felt like maybe they needed whatever you told him at halftime. You should have told them that before the game. I saw one, One Wild stat about this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I. Hank, did you see the, the, the story that in the preseason. So the Bears.

[PFT Commenter]

So they.

[Big Cat]

I think that was the seventh time they've had a comeback like this. Under two minutes. Losing the game. Winning. And then they win the game. They are also. Go ahead. You'd say the stacks. It might be it.

[PFT Commenter]

We're about to say the exact same.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, go ahead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So they got two players that were part of the 28 to three game. Yeah, the Bears. So you got Grady Jarrett, he was on the Falcons. And they have Joe Tuni, who was on the Patriots. And so they showed that game and they had both players stand up in front of the team and talk about.

[Big Cat]

It in the preseason.

[PFT Commenter]

In the preseason. Which. Shout out. Shout out Grady Jared for doing that.

[Big Cat]

Well, you know what? I'll say this because Grady Jarrett has maybe not been the, like, best signing. He was. You know, we could talk about the off season later. The defense is. A lot of money's been invested in the defense. It's not very good. It's kind of one of those, like when Dexter Fowler. Or not Dexter Fowler, now I'm, Now I'm forgetting his name. The, the. The. The. The guy who's on the card. Why can't I remember his name? Jason Hayward. Jason Hayward signed a big deal with the Cubs, was not producing what we thought he'd produce, but he was part of the speech during the rain delay in game seven. It's like, you know, What? He's worth every penny. Grady Jarrett might have been worth every penny for whatever the fuck he said in this, in this preseason meeting.

[PFT Commenter]

If so, if Grady Jarrett was like a perennial Pro Bowler, if he had been one of the best players on the Bears, do you think he would have said no, that I don't want to get up in front of the team and talk about this, but because he hasn't been that good, he's like, I got to earn my contract somehow. Let's go. I'm going to give the TED Talk to end all Ted talks about. About blowing a 28. 3 lead in the Super Bowl.

[Big Cat]

It was, it was. Remember last year when. In the gambling cave when, when Stephen Shea asked Gruden about like a really bad loss and Gruden's like, I don't know, Stephen, why don't you tell me the worst day of your life too? Yeah. It's like that's, that's pretty much what they asked Grady Jarrett to do.

[PFT Commenter]

Good team guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good teammate. He might be runner up for teammate of the year.

[Hank]

But listen, Joe Dooney, also all time winner.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's only missed. He's only not won the division one year in, in his, in his entire career. He's played on the Patriots, Chiefs, now Bears, the, the other. So the stat off of that. The Bears are 3 and 3 this season. Went down 10 points or more under 5 minutes. So under 5 minutes down 10 points from where they're 3 and 3. The rest of the NFL is a combined 3 and 1. 58. It's insane. Yeah, they just never die.

[PFT Commenter]

So how many wins against the packers does Caleb have now? 3.

[Big Cat]

3.

[PFT Commenter]

And where does that stack up?

[Big Cat]

I think it's.

[PFT Commenter]

He has to be like number one.

[Big Cat]

I think he is. I think Cutler had two. Like Mitch might have had one.

[PFT Commenter]

Since this is an all time status.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no. I'm saying recently, recently.

[PFT Commenter]

Recently since the turn of the century, I would expect that he's probably number one.

[Big Cat]

Oh yeah. I. He's got to be. We'll see.

[PFT Commenter]

Rex.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, maybe. But it's not, it's not a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see.

[Big Cat]

I mean they've, they've. That's the thing is they've just been. I mean, think about Aaron Rodgers, what, 21 and 4 or something against the Bears. So it's, it's got to be either the lead or. Yeah, it's got to be the lead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's pretty insane. And that's just special guy. He's. Everything about this team makes no sense. And it's such an insane roller coaster every single game, and I don't want to get off.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, here's some stats. Caleb Williams is responsible for 50% of the bears wins over the packers in the last 15 years.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So he. So he's got a. So it's probably Jay and Mitch combined.

[PFT Commenter]

He's the first Bears quarterback with two wins against the packers in a season since Jim Harbaugh did it in 1981.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. And. And Ben Johnson, remember, in his press conference, said, I'm looking forward to beating them twice a year.

[PFT Commenter]

Did it.

[Big Cat]

He did. He did come through in that.

[PFT Commenter]

Mission accomplished.

[Big Cat]

Mission accomplished.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know if you picked up on this, watching at the game, but one thing that I've enjoyed about the NFL playoffs so far is the dedicated concierge referee that hangs out next to the coaches.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They give them their own ref to yell at.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There's the extended crew. There's like six. There's seven refs on the field.

[PFT Commenter]

There's guys that are responsible for just the balls, and then there's one that is just like glued to the hip of the coach that just takes. He's got to take the most abuse.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Of all time. He's just there to get yelled at.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Also like a personal timeout referee. Yeah. So the. The coaches don't have to go sprinting up and down the sidelines. But yeah, to your point about Leflore, it does feel like this might be the end of the road for Matt in Green Bay. And I think Matt LaFleur is a great coach.

[Big Cat]

I think he'll get hired somewhere else. I think he's a great coach. I think he has to do something like go on a darkness retreat and figure out playing with the lead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, man, that's.

[Big Cat]

That's really it. Because, I mean, I. I do think he's a very good coach, but the playing with the lead thing is a real thing that has been a bugaboo for the packers.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's something that. I don't know. I don't know how coaches get improvement in that area because it's like a. Who do you go to. To like to learn more about, like, how to. How to keep a lead that feels like it's first world problems. It's like, oh, poor me, I can't manage a 10 point lead. There's a shitload of coaches out there that are like, fuck you, dude. I wish we could have 10 point leads.

[Big Cat]

But you really should. You really. I know you really should never lose a game. Up 213 and the ball to start the second half. You shouldn't.

[PFT Commenter]

Especially. No turnovers, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right? Yeah. Jordan Love had four touchdowns, no turnovers. Right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy. Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

So do you feel like if, if they do fire lafleur, you feel like you killed this version of the Packers?

[Big Cat]

Caleb. Caleb did. I'm not going to take credit for it. I, I, I do have to say, and we can, we can end on this, the whole experience of Memes and Zach, you guys can back this up. Like I was saying it the, you know, when we have the easiest job in the world. I have immense gratitude for the job we have. And, like, I know that no one looks at it and is like, man, those guys have a, have a, have a tough life, because we don't. But when you stay, when you just are in these walls. There's a lot of cynicism online. There's a lot of, like, hate, whatever there may be. Going out and seeing the people is, like, the best feeling ever, because the way people embraced us and, like, we went to a tailgate. We, I was going up to meet with an awl shadow, Andy, who invited us to his tailgate. I was going to meet him. He was like, yeah, stop by. We got one foot into the tailgate lot, and the first tailgate was like, you guys have to come and drink with us. And it was just like, and everyone asking for pictures and everyone just being the coolest and just, it's just such a great reminder how big the world is and how awesome people are. And it's like stepping out from online is just such a nice feeling.

[PFT Commenter]

It is.

[Big Cat]

And, and people were just so, so awesome to us and, and embracing me, and I just, it was, it was great driving home and just seeing the city on fire and just the love for the city and the love for the bear, it's just, it was awesome. I, it was, it's, it's a night, like, walking down the concourses, everyone floating out of the stadium, hugging, screaming, all of it. It was, it was just really, really special. It's a night I'll like, never, ever forget. And, and it's just so cool. I love this city so much. And just seeing, like, everyone just so happy was, was really, really awesome. Also, shout out the guy at the tailgate. The first tailgate. I didn't catch his name. Probably one of the most attractive guys I've ever seen. Would you guys back that up? Yeah, it was a hot dude. He was, he was like, he Looked like he was like an Abercrombie Fitch model. He's married, so we don't have a shot with him. He knows who we're talking about. But it was like kind of a. I don't want to say breathtaking, but it was like if you. If you close your eyes and you think of like a dude in. In like from a. Like a private school movie. Yeah, he was that good. Look.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, is it JB Pritzker?

[Big Cat]

No such.

[PFT Commenter]

I was talking to White Boy Rick. He's one of our. One of our employees here at Parcel Sports. He does social. He's a big Indiana Hoosiers fan and a big Bears fan. And I was asking before the game and I thought, I thought about it right after the game ended, that if you are a die hard Indiana Hoosiers football fan and a Chicago Bears fan. Oh, you probably actually have thought to yourself, I think I'm dead. And I think this is heaven. And that's kind of cool. But also, maybe I'm a little bit sad that I might be dead. I'm not sure if I'm dead or not yet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I just like to say, Mike, you're out there listening right now. Mike, the who die hard Hoosiers fan and Bears fan, you are dead. And you were getting mentioned on part of my take to acknowledge the fact that you're dead and kind of snap you into realizing, hey, welcome to heaven. It's pretty good, so enjoy it. Look around, have fun, enjoy yourself.

[Big Cat]

Is this heaven or just Netflix?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Mike, I have, actually, I have like, I really hope that there's one.

[Big Cat]

Guy, one of my. One of my best friends is that is an Indiana Bears fan and he's just. It's just every single.

[PFT Commenter]

This is the best weekend ever for that guy.

[Big Cat]

It's the best weekend ever. Very different teams. One team leaves zero doubt. The other team, you just doubt the whole time. But, you know, you shouldn't doubt because of what they've proven.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, one team cheats and the other team does it through hard work and dedication and preparation.

[Big Cat]

We'll get to that. We'll talk about that game. But, yeah, it was just. It was. It was a night off. Never forget. I. I really appreciate everyone who showed love. And it was also. One of the cool moments, was so Saturday, I. I was. During the day, I was just trying to kill time. I took my kids out. We. We did a bunch of stuff. And in the car, I was telling them, like, I'm going to the Bears game tonight and they're in that zone of, like, they don't really watch football, but they're happy when I'm happy kind of thing. So they. They ask about the Bears all the time, and they want to know. And I had to, like, break the news to. To my son that if. If the Bears lose, the season's over. He's like, what do you mean? I was like, well, it's just. It's the playoffs, so if we lose, it's done. And then this morning, waking up and telling them that the Bears won, and they were like, super pumped. It was like, this is fucking sick.

[PFT Commenter]

Has there been any confusion in your family about the fact that now when you win, you're happy, as opposed to seasons past when you tried to teach them about. Yeah, it's taking when we lose. That's actually good.

[Big Cat]

This is why Kyle Long shadow. Kyle Long the night he stayed at my house. And he's correct. He was like, we can't be teaching tanking in this house.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's like, you're right.

[PFT Commenter]

Have they. They've understood that winning is good now?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're. They're very pumped. They're very, very excited. I don't think that if. If the Bears lost, I don't know if they would actually be upset, but they were. The happiness is all I care about. Yeah, I think it would. It would gloss right over them. So. Incredible night, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you have any recommendations for Big Cat or, like, pointers for how to handle success?

[Big Cat]

The ride goes.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I got to keep it.

[Hank]

Keep it, Rol.

[Big Cat]

Die. Just never die. I bet him +470. It probably got up to like, +1000. I don't even know. But I was like, I have to. I have to show respect.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the highest I saw was. Was 8 to 1.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Also, you want the Eagles or Rams.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Max is saying who. I mean, I don't. I gotta see. I gotta see this. This X ray.

[PFT Commenter]

I want the Eagles for you.

[Big Cat]

I gotta see this X ray with Stafford. Stafford's not playing. I guess he's extra. I'm fine with taking the easiest route possible. I. It doesn't really matter because whoever the Bears play next, they're going to be down and look really, really bad, and then we're just going to have to start playing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And that's just. We're going to get to that point. Zach. Can you tell? Zach was like two. Two steps away from Freddie Gibbs and Common last night. That was pretty cool.

[Zach]

Yeah, it was pretty awesome for. He gives Common. Spike Lee. Everybody's I think everybody's hanging out at the field for the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we got field passes before the game. We were down there. I basically. There's a picture out there of me, like, I really don't know what happened in the moment, but, like, essentially trying to steal Pete Crowe. Armstrong, I would say, is the best way. Did you see this?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You scooped him?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what was going on with that. I was just so excited to see him. But, yeah, it was very cool down on the field before the game. Like, there was just. It started snowing. It was like a snow globe there. Magical night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The snow before the game was. Was awesome. I thought. Just occurred to me, if you're the Arizona Cardinals, why not hire Matt LaFleur if he gets fired? I think he will. And then you bring in Malik Willis.

[Big Cat]

Dude, listen, our good friend Tom Fornelli did text me asking if I wanted to help with the narrative, but does Malik Willis win that game last night?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just. There's something about Willis.

[Big Cat]

Get a couple first downs in the second half when you need it with your feet and keep the clock moving.

[PFT Commenter]

There's something about Malik.

[Big Cat]

Just something. Something interesting to ask.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, yeah, Love did have four touchdowns, but no turnovers.

[Big Cat]

But maybe they should have put in Malik in the second.

[PFT Commenter]

Closer, the closer. No, but if it. I. If I'm the Cardinals, I would think about doing that. Yeah. Like, they. They seem to be a pretty good combo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So Memes and Zach, you guys have anything else from the game? Appreciate you guys coming. We got. So we did a good job of bundling up for. Something happened in the second half. I don't know if it was the wind or anything, but I could not feel my entire lower half for the entire second half. It was cold. I lost feeling in my hands in the first half, but it did feel like some sort of dark energy that the Bears had. Yeah. Has been lifted. Because it was a perfect scenario where the Bears came all the way back. And then it was essentially the Aaron Rodgers meme, where it was like, they're all celebrating with two minutes left. Right. And I thought you guys were dead. Dead. We. I. In my head, I was. I was, like, thinking about what I would say on this show, being like, hey, I was wrong. I said it was a 50, 50 game. We got our asses kicked. We're. We're still so far away. This sucks. Everything sucks. Didn't happen.

[PFT Commenter]

I just want to say, for the record, before the Eagles Niners game, I want the Eagles, Bears Matchup. I would like very much to see the Eagle Spirits matchup. I want to see play a big game. Max.

[Big Cat]

Same. I listen again. Whoever the Bears play, we're gonna, we're gonna look bad to start and then we're gonna have to figure it out. And then it's just a question of can we figure it out. And if we figure it out, it's gonna be awesome. The ride will keep going. What are you gonna say, Zach? Finish off.

[Zach]

All the Bears fans around us were in a position to where it would. They had the, they had all the, the right to be like down in the dumps, like, fuck this, it's over.

[Big Cat]

We lost.

[Zach]

Nobody was in that. Not really. A lot of guys in the headspace, everyone was like, oh, this is, this is where we turn it up and we'll get, get it done. And they did.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The. The guy sitting next to you, who I had maybe about a thousand high fives with, he just kept on saying, we're a second half team. We're a second half team. That was. I know that it sounds crazy, but it really was the vibe in the stadiums. Like we, we. We're not giving up. We. We just have to, you know, put a couple plays together.

[PFT Commenter]

Can we talk about the new good luck ritual that we have before Bears games?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

I walked into this, had no idea what the was happening. I still don't really understand it, but yeah, maybe you can explain better than.

[Big Cat]

I can't think so. We have a guy, Mikey Betts, who is a. He's one of my favorite guys. He's. He works on Frank Fleming Corporation Incorporated. He texted, we have a group chat with everyone, all the Bears fans, this office. And he texted and said, we have to have a new. We have to have a good luck charm for the games. I was like, okay, we're gonna start this in the playoffs. He's like, yeah, we have to start it. The new good luck charm is taking a bite of ramen that's not cooked.

[PFT Commenter]

Just a brick.

[Big Cat]

A brick. And then taking a shot of rumple mints. And I kept on saying, Mikey, I think this is a bad idea to start a new good luck thing before the playoffs. Like we should have done this in the regular season. To the point where Zach memes, Eddie and I got in the car at 3:30 to go tailgate. And I turned on my car and I said, oh, fuck. Mikey Betts isn't here yet. If we don't eat this ramen, he will never forgive us if we lose this game. So we Got out of the car, went back inside, sat there for 20 minutes. I guess we're just eating ramen now.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not just the brick of ramen. You also put the seasoning. Yeah, Mikey had. He said that he had a vision while he was driving, which. That's a whole nother question. But, yeah, the vision was you take the brick, you put that brick in your face, you sprinkle the ramen powder on it, you take a bite, and then you, you chase it with not just Rumpel mints, but like off brand Rumpel mints.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it worked. So you have to do it now. You can't stop doing this. No, of course, it's the birth of a new tradition.

[Big Cat]

And not only, like, even if we lose in the next round, we have.

[PFT Commenter]

To do it next year because this was such a big.

[Big Cat]

This was the biggest game. It, this game was everything. I mean, it was just. It was. I'll remember for the rest of my life. Like, I. It's one of those things, like, it's, it's, it's rare being able to go to one of these games and be like, yeah, that's. That was, that was it. That was, that was something the you. I mean, yeah, I'm mumbling now, but that's how I feel. It was just incredible. Okay, before we get to The Sunday games. DraftKings. Every week in the NBA, Stars Rise, Legends are made, and one player rules them all. DraftKings sportsbook and official sports betting partner the NBA is bringing back king of the court. And now it's every Tuesday of the season. Here's how it works. DraftKings is putting up 1 million in bonus bets each week. Opt in. Apply your token and place a $5 pregame bet on the NBA star you think will dominate each Tuesday. If your pick finishes the night leading the league in points, rebounds and assists, they're crowned king of the court and you win your share of 1 million in bonus bets. In this season, there's a new way to track the action. The king of the court leaderboard. Inside the app before tip off, see the top 10 stars in points, rebounds and assists. While games are live, watch your pick climb the ranks. And when it's over, find out exactly where the stars stacked up. And if you become crowned a winner, download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE. To win a share of 1 million in bonus bets. If your player is king of the court in partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- GAMBLER in New York, call 877-8-HOPENY or text hopeny467-369 In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling. Call 88 or visit ccpg.org Please play responsibly on behalf of Boothill Casino and.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

And responsible gaming resources see DKNG co B I had one last thing by the way. Bears, packers. There's now a We're having a classless off and I it kind of. So we recorded some of the show earlier in the day and since the classless office started, people are very upset at Ben Johnson for using the F word, which we would never swear on this podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

Fraud.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, he's saying fuck. Fuck. He's saying fuck. Fuck the Packers. I find it very funny. We have a long standing rule on this show that if you unironically claim someone is being classless, you're already. You've already lost.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So stay classy is trending right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And if you say stay classy, you're on the wrong side.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we had a whole bit about it when we started the show.

[PFT Commenter]

It amounts to just somebody being mad that someone else is happy.

[Big Cat]

This is. And listen, this is obviously not all packers fans because a lot of them, I don't think, give a shit. I'd say the majority of them don't give a shit, but a few online give a shit. And it's just very funny because this is, you know, Aaron Rodgers said I own you, I fucking own you to the entire Soldier Field crowd on a hot mic. And I know that's a little different because he's not the coach they had at the I think Clay Matthews at the draft said the Bears still suck. Which I Packers fans love to say. The Jordan Love tweeted like the Happy Father's Day. Yep. That so what? It's a rivalry. Let's have a rivalry.

[PFT Commenter]

They're shocked because the shoe's never been on the other foot.

[Big Cat]

Right. So what does it matter?

[PFT Commenter]

This is what happens. And guess what? You'll get over it. It'll be all right. And it's good. I'm glad they're mad. I'm I'm glad. You should actually be glad to.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I am. No, no, I find it. I'm having a great time. You should be seeing these takes fly around.

[PFT Commenter]

You should be pumped that finally packers fans.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Care enough about the Bears to actually be upset about how the Bears act in victory.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. It's. It's just a very funny idea that we have. Like Al Duke said, remember when Tom Landry would do this after winning a wild card game? Me neither. Coaches used to have class. Now everybody just throws F bombs around. Total losers. Go paint your QB's fingernails.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Ooh. And then Dicky V. This one broke my heart because I love Dickey V, but he said, totally classless attitude and winning by Ben Johnson, coach of the Bears. And the fab fab come back to beat the Packers. Main theme should have been the gutty comeback, not the childish packers comment.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you think Coach K would have done in that situation, Big Cat? Would Coach K have said the Packers? Well, no. No. Coach K would have walked into the packers locker room and told Matt LaFleur, hey, you coached a great game. You got a bright future ahead of you. I'm sure that we're going to be great rivals from here on out. And you're too good of a coach to be making those kinds of mistakes that you made in the second half. And I can't wait to see you clean those up.

[Big Cat]

And he also would have. If anyone had caught him saying the packers on a live mic, he would have sent him to Siberia where Pete Gaudette is staying.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. And.

[Big Cat]

And burn the tape.

[PFT Commenter]

And. And Al Dukes is right. Because, like, think about the old school coaches that we love so much. Like your Woody Hazes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Guys that knew how to handle victory.

[Big Cat]

Your Bob Knights.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Those kind of guys.

[Big Cat]

Real men's Rick with Jerus.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The strong, silent type. Gary Cooper. No, this is good. Listen. And coach awesome coaches have always done this.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just that we didn't have cameras in every single locker room getting the post game speeches to then try to monetize on social media afterwards. So we never got to see how your Vince Lombardi's would act outside of a few, like, curated clips that were put out like by the Lombardi estate to make him look like he was, you know, above reproach as a coach.

[Big Cat]

I did see the one clip that was great was from Brian Billick. It must have been 25 years ago. And it was NFL Films was in there. And he said, you know, great game, gutsy Win. And then he said, everyone turn the cameras off. Turn the cameras off. And the cameras went down and didn't turn off. And then he just goes, fuck the Titans.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This has been happening in locker rooms for all of time. Jesus Christ. So I, I, I, I love that people are this upset. Yeah, it is, it really is. Like, you know, the, the, the little guy punches back, they're like, oh, that's not fair. Don't fight like this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, what the fuck, dude?

[Big Cat]

But it really, it's a very funny idea to, to lose a then quote, classiness. That really is the biggest loser move you can have.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I mean they're, they're clinging to some stages of cope right now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And, and they'll get over it. And the rivalry is going to be that much better moving forward.

[Big Cat]

Be great. It's going to be great. Okay. Sunday. Sunday, Bill's Jags. This was the, the trilogy of the, of the three games that we had in a row where the team winning underneath the, under the two minute warning did not end up winning the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Bill's Jags. Bill's 27J, 24. Josh Allen.

[PFT Commenter]

Josh Allen simply refused to admit that he was hurt. And he just turned into Superman. It was, I don't know what kind of drugs they shot him up with. I don't know how he got back from that, that knee bend that he had. He got his, his bell rung early in the game too. He had his hand up. He had like three separate injuries that he, he was getting checked out for and he was just like, you know what? It, I think we, we called that and we're not exactly geniuses for saying that Josh is going to do some in the playoffs because that's what Josh Allen does. But he, all the talk about him being injured while I think he was injured for the second part of the season, he just doesn't care in the playoffs. Yeah, he's like it. And speaking of classlessness, Big cat, you see what, what the Jaguars did outside their locker room outside the visiting locker room. Oh, no, man.

[Big Cat]

What happened?

[PFT Commenter]

They painted a giant mural outside the visitors locker room.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what the mural says? What says Duvall? Then underneath that said ranked most intimidating chant in the NFL. That's the last thing that you have to see before you go in.

[Big Cat]

Who, who ranked it?

[PFT Commenter]

I think it was a guy on the Internet. I think it was like a guy on the Internet put together a list.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the Jaguar said, we're gonna, we're gonna put that outside. And it's gonna be a warning to every. Like that cave diver thing that says, like, warning, turn around, you're going to die. If you go past this point, that's a pretty intimidating sign. This is worse.

[Big Cat]

Do you think that they showed. So if they pulled everyone in, like, all the chants.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Do you think that it was the Duval Chan or do you think they showed them Liam Cohen trying it as an introductory press conference? They're like, ooh, I don't want to be that guy. Freaks me out. Intimidating in a very different way, but still intimidating.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it was a webcam shot of the pool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

People chanting it in the pool is pretty rough. But I. I was thinking about other chants. The only one I can think might come close. Maybe the Skull chant in Minnesota.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, Skull. Although that's. It always feels like a soccer chant, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Or if you're like starting Denmark or. Yeah, maybe it didn't. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're trying to quit tobacco, that would be a tough one to deal with.

[Big Cat]

I actually think an underrated one is when in the Broncos when they'd yell incomplete. I always like that one.

[PFT Commenter]

Now if. If the Vikings wanted to amp it up, they should just start chanting nine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Make it sound like a Ramstein concert.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. This was. It was cool to see the Jags in a playoff game again. It was cool to see.

[PFT Commenter]

It was very cool.

[Zach]

The.

[Big Cat]

So let's. Let's talk a little more to Josh Allen, though, because he was incredible. He was pretty much Perfect. He was 28 for. For 35, 273 yards, a touchdown and two rushing touchdowns. Perfect under pressure. 14 for 16, 195 yards. That pass he made to Brandon Cooks on the last drive, that 36 yard pass, I saw the. All 22 of it. And he released it well before Brandon Cooks was even like, close to open. He basically played the defensive backs perfectly and read it perfectly. He was again, yeah, you listed it like foot. He came in with a foot, got checked for a concussion hurt, his knee hurt, his finger was not going to be denied. Was Superman out there. And the Bills defense, which is not very good against the rush. And we can talk. The Jags maybe should have tried to take more time and limit possessions. They had a pretty good game in terms of secondary. Tradius White had a really good game. He forced that second interception that clinched the game. So the Bills did just enough. And it was. The conversation going into this playoffs has been, it's. It's Josh Allen's playoffs to lose. And I I never really prescribed to that theory because I think the Bills are a very flawed team. But today's game proved why that might be true. Just because he's Josh Allen. And we said it in the pre in on Friday's show, I think the Jags are the better team overall, but they don't have Josh Allen. And when Josh Allen, you know, he, he has ability to just be like, I'm not going to be denied. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And that's what he did today. Yeah. And their, their past defense is really good. Their rush defense is not good at all.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

And the Jaguars just straight up gashed them up. I don't know why they. They stopped running the football as much, but I think between their two running backs, they were averaging like over, I think over seven yards per carry between the two of them. And the Bills didn't seem like they had any answer for it whatsoever.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they should have. I. And this is all hindsight, Trevor Lawrence. So he started that the picky threw in the first half was bad. Obviously the pick at the end, you know, it happens because you're trying to press and you have 45 seconds or whatever it was to try to make something work. The. He did have nice drives in the middle. It's just, I feel like the, the, the Jaguars should have basically gone in with the game plan of we cannot let Josh Allen have the ball. Let's just control the clock and run it down their throat. They average 6.7 yards per carry.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And overall this Jaguar season is a massive win. It sucks that they lost this game, but it is a massive win they have. It feels like everything started to come together. Liam Cohen's a really good coach. They have a awesome wide receiver room and they have a great running. I mean Jacoby Myers, Parker, Washington, Brian. Brian Thomas might be their third best.

[PFT Commenter]

Receiver, which is crazy. It's crazy at the start of the season. If you had said that, that's nuts.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, nuts. The question is, is Trevor Lawrence, who was playing at that insane level the last eight weeks of the season and then had two mistakes today, are we going into the offseason saying is that. Is that more like Trevor Lawrence or was it the last eight weeks of, of the season?

[PFT Commenter]

I think you're pumped. I think you're a Jags fan.

[Big Cat]

You're.

[PFT Commenter]

You're pumped about everything. Not. Not just like Liam Cohen and the new regime. The like 30 year old stat nerd that is now your GM. You're excited about those things.

[Big Cat]

James Gladstone.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You're super excited about Trevor I think that you're. You don't even have doubts anymore.

[Big Cat]

But he wasn't great today.

[PFT Commenter]

He wasn't great today.

[Big Cat]

He hasn't been great in the playoffs. And I like Trevor Lawrence. I believe in Trevor Lawrence. I'm just saying, you know how these playoff games go.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Especially as you get longer. I mean, if Josh. If. If. If the Bills had lost this game, the conversation would have been, josh Allen can't win it. Even though Josh Allen. They showed the stat. He, like, leads every single stat in the playoffs. I think he's the only playoff quarterback to have 25 passing touchdowns and eight rushing touchdowns ever in the NFL. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, the conversation would also be like, Harbaugh or McDaniel. Right. Who do you want?

[Big Cat]

Right. And then they win their first playoff game. The Bills win their first playoff game on the road since 1992, and Josh Allen has gone six straight seasons with winning at least one playoff game. Yeah, but this is how it goes.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd never won on the road.

[Big Cat]

It's so stupid that this sport, you know, if you lose in the playoffs, it becomes crisis.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We just got done talking about the packers potentially firing Matt LaFleur.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I think that. I think that you're very excited about Trevor. You have some doubts about, like, whether or not Trevor can be perfect all the time like he was for the last eight weeks.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

But. But I think you're. You're super excited about the future of the team.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

I also appreciate the reporter after the game asking that really nice question to. To Liam Cohen. Did you hear her? Yeah, it was a great question. I don't think there was a question. It actually was indistinguishable from when we interviewed Joe Burrow after they won the national championship, and we were both, like, probably blowing a 0.12 BAC, and I asked a rambling question that was just pretty much, hey, Joe, your team is awesome. You guys are awesome.

[Big Cat]

As two guys that went to journalist school, though, I feel like Jake Marsh has got to be so mad about that.

[PFT Commenter]

That. Honestly, if you're Jake Marsh and you're a real Capital J journalist, you hear that question. Do you think that took away valuable time from a real reporter in the room who was going to ask Liam Cohen to talk about what this season meant to him? And we. We didn't get to hear that. We just got to hear a lady compliment Liam Cohen, and I was disgusted by it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Talk about. Talk about that play you reviewed.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We needed that instead. Do you have it, Max? The the reporter with Liam Cohen.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it me, or were the spots really weird in this game?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, the referee is spotting, but they had trouble spotting everything.

[Big Cat]

Well, here's what I think is happening in the NFL now in this league wide. Well, first of all, the. The seven. I. For some reason, adding two extra people on the ref crew seems to them up where they. I think that. I think what's happening is everyone's passing the buck, so when they. When they add two extra people, like, oh, well, someone else will get it. And then when they have the virtual spotting technology, they're essentially saying, we'll just spot it wherever and we'll just send it up there. Well, yeah. Which doesn't really do anything.

[PFT Commenter]

And again, what they do with the virtual spotting technology is they. They take the spot from the rest.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're right.

[PFT Commenter]

The ref puts the ball down on the field, and then they've got surveillance drones or whatever. They've got an inmate, like, 80 Reaper hovering above, and they're like, okay, let's just use the technology to see where this ball is on the field.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So there's no actual measurement of where forward progress stopped being done by the computer.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just them looking at a nice graphic display of it, and that way it looks more official. And I missed the chain gang. We said this. When they brought this in, I missed the chain gang. Because the chain gang, you get the pageantry, you get the. The ritual of having guys who are in their, like, 70s jog out in the field very slowly, and they put the chain down, then you get to see where the chain goes. If the. If the ball is shorter, and if you're rooting for it to be a first down when they put that stick down and the nose is poking out the side of it, then you get. It's almost like a second win that you get on that play.

[Big Cat]

It's the Javian Clowney. We wouldn't have had J. Davian Clowney. And all the craziness with that play.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Happen. If we don't have that. The. I'm just realizing now that the virtual spot measurement technology, or whatever the fuck they call it, it's no different than our very own Stephen Shea predicting every NFL game with his brain, putting it into a spreadsheet and calling it data.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then being like, look at this data.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They're having us look at this technology. Like, well, the technology said it was the first time. No, no, you did.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They're calling it AI.

[Big Cat]

We also had the female ref who I think other than the spots, they did a pretty good job. She did the very. I've never seen it before. The first down off a fumble with her single finger.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. One finger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay, so the reporter with Liam Cohen, what. What did she say exactly?

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, she goes, I just want to tell you congratulations on your success, young man. You hold your head up, all right? You guys have had the most magnificent season. You did a great job out there today, so you just hold your head up. Okay? Ladies and gentlemen, Duvall, you're the one. Keep it going. We've got another season. Take care. And much continued success to you and your entire team. And then Liam Cohen looked back and he answered her question and he said, thank you. I appreciate it.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Beautiful. And yes, we are probably still waiting for Liam Cohen to explain one of his decisions.

[PFT Commenter]

Really touching.

[Big Cat]

Really, really touching. What do we think about the Bills going to. Going to Denver?

[PFT Commenter]

I like Josh Allen. Josh Allen's going to Denver and the Bills are trying to do this thing where they're going to try to win a Super bowl without really any money spent on wide receivers. Brandon Cooks, like you mentioned Brandon Cooks.

[Big Cat]

Gabe Davis got hurt in this game.

[PFT Commenter]

Gabe Davis got hurt. Keon Coleman had a good reception, a nice little run after catch. They've got some tight ends, but it's the Josh Allen show. And I'm just not going to bet against Josh Allen until proven otherwise.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That was my entire reasoning for this game. I was like, yeah, I think the Jags are better, but it's Josh Allen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he did exactly that.

[PFT Commenter]

Now we should say goodbye to Highmark Stadium.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Officially. Officially, there will be no more games in High Mark. For a while we didn't know.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

When. When the Chargers were playing against the Patriots. Do you think. Do you think the stadium got to watch the game to see if they're gonna have another. They probably put up on the jumbo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they probably did. This does mean we're. We're one step closer to getting the troughs, which would be awesome. Trough market went crazy after I talked about it.

[Zach]

I really.

[Big Cat]

I kind of screwed myself on that one.

[PFT Commenter]

I think.

[Big Cat]

I think we're good. I think we're gonna get a trough in here and we're going to get it. I had a little con. I had a conversation with, with one of the guys in our office who, who does a lot of the stuff around here, who's very good, Chris. And he, he's like, are you serious about installing a trough? And I was like, yeah. He's like, Ah. What? What's wrong? He's like, well, we are leasing this place. It's like a 10 year lease. He's like, and that is a pretty big renovation in the bathroom.

[PFT Commenter]

I was like, all right, well, don't say anything about bathroom.

[Big Cat]

Well, I told him. I was like, listen, you can just like someday when we leave this building, you don't think they're going to want that trough? I'll leave it to them. I don't care. And if they don't, I'll take it back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you know what? This is going to drive the rent up. Yeah, we did. We did them a favor.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we got this.

[PFT Commenter]

We have a giant kitchen that's got plumbing in it. Why don't we just put the trough next to Donnie's kitchen?

[Big Cat]

The one question. So we did get in touch. Thank you everyone who hit us up about getting us in touch with the Steiner sports auction guys. So we're going to figure out a price, but I think we have the ability to potentially get it signed by a couple bills players. Is that weird?

[PFT Commenter]

Like signed, like when you write your name in the snow?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're going to. No, they're going to sign it. They're going to sign the trough.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay. Yeah, with like hand. Right hand.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, with like a Sharpie.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, cool.

[Big Cat]

That would be pretty cool, right?

[PFT Commenter]

It'd be great. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So maybe we'll request that.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's do it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, I'm excited. We're gonna be pissing in troughs, boys. We're all gonna see each other.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, a lot. This is, this is a great, a great thing to buy. I don't know why there's so many doubters and naysayers out there, but there actually aren't.

[Big Cat]

There are a lot of people who are like, this is great. Like, this is.

[PFT Commenter]

I've heard a few people that are like, this is kind of gross. Why are you doing this?

[Big Cat]

Oh, well, I'd like to. Give me a list.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll tell you why, because it's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, give me a list.

[PFT Commenter]

We do kick ass. I'm sorry for you if you don't do kick ass.

[Big Cat]

And it's also, I, I like to think, you know, it's, it's not a secret that we've, we've done well for ourselves throughout the course of this podcast. I like to think of ourselves as like Batman if He was a 12 year old boy. And just like, I have money to buy the dumbest shit possible. I'm not buying armor. I'm not buying a Batmobile. I'm buying a thing that we can piss in and an ice cream machine.

[PFT Commenter]

No disrespect.

[Hank]

What are you gonna do now that you're on Netflix?

[Big Cat]

Buy it. Buy a thing we can all see each other's on. Oh, trough came on Netflix.

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be good.

[Big Cat]

They probably would do that. We just have to have the rated.

[PFT Commenter]

R once they figure out. Yeah, like live streaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A live stream of the tribe of live streams.

[Big Cat]

I want a list of the people who are not. Listen, we have other bathrooms. Yeah, they can go there. And pissing your trough is great. You don't, you don't make a mess. You can never make a mess.

[PFT Commenter]

And if you're saying like, oh well, it's sexist and it's going to be females. No, they can use it too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they can use it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I'm not, I'm not saying that. Wouldn't a trough of Barcelona sports can't pee in a trough. They. They certainly can.

[Big Cat]

Wait. Wouldn't a trough for women just be a floor with the, with a drain.

[PFT Commenter]

In it be a hole?

[Hank]

Yeah, it's just a fountain.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, they just go in and they just drop trowel and they just piss on the floor.

[PFT Commenter]

My all time most traumatic pissing experience.

[Big Cat]

Shower. A trough for a woman is a.

[PFT Commenter]

Shower was at a. It was at a concert in Northern Virginia when I was like 14, 15 years old. And in the men's room there they had a, a urinal that was straight up just like a bird bath. Like I'm talking about 15, 20 foot diameter, like bird bath, circular firing squad. Oh, so everybody just went up to it and pissed towards each other in the middle. Yeah, that. That is a bad place to take a piss as a 14 year old.

[Big Cat]

That is very bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Do you also remember Jerome Bettis's restaurant in Pittsburgh where they had the urinals you could. Above it there was a two way mirror you could look out, which I, that always was very weird to me at jmu they feel like something Kirby Puckett would have done.

[PFT Commenter]

They have a toilet that you can crap on overlooking the field and watch the game.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's pretty nice. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What are you gonna say, Max? You still, you still follow this? Not the food trough. We could get a food trough.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't. Don't want one.

[Big Cat]

That would be cool though. Imagine if it was just a trough full of French fries. Every day we just walk by it.

[PFT Commenter]

It could be a salad bar that.

[Big Cat]

Actually is just our kitchen yeah, we have a trough every Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I actually would like to. What do you estimate the amount of wings we've had in this office this football season? I want to say it's probably. And I know people are going to be like, that's insane. I'm going to say it's like 5,000.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to say that we get. We probably get 200. We get like you think 200 every week?

[Big Cat]

I think so. I think those trays are 50 and we get four of them.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Yeah, I'd say probably 150 to 200 every week.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Times 19.

[Big Cat]

And then there's a couple Saturdays and a couple college football.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's a lot of wings. It's a lot of wings.

[Big Cat]

It's pretty disgusting. Hey, we. We love life.

[PFT Commenter]

Shout out, wing nuts.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, shout out, wing nuts.

[PFT Commenter]

Hope you guys go to the super bowl this year. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're going. If the. I've. We've always said we're going to buy it and Alicia a ticket.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

If. If the, if the Bills get to the Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Do a little pop up restaurant there.

[Big Cat]

All right, so overall, a plus year. A. A year for the Jags.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Winning a playoff game would have made it a plus.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd say a. Yeah, it was an A year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You won your division and everything feels.

[Big Cat]

Like it's going up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And you have now the ability to. To fix, to tweak some of the things. You have some young talent. That's really good. It was cool seeing those teal uniforms back in the playoffs. Jaguars are going up and we got.

[PFT Commenter]

A Josh Allen on. Josh Allen sack today.

[Big Cat]

We did.

[PFT Commenter]

That was kind of nice.

[Big Cat]

We did. Okay, next game, San Francisco 23, Philadelphia 19.

[PFT Commenter]

How, by the way, real quick, how far do you think Josh can throw the ball up in Denver? Oh, man, probably like 90 yards over those mountains. He should try. He should try.

[Big Cat]

He absolutely should try. I'm excited to watch a playoff football in. In Denver. It just feels a little different.

[PFT Commenter]

It does. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It feels fun. And they did play last year. That was an ass kick.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Philadelphia loses to the San Francisco 49ers 2319 max. Would you like to start or would you like us to start?

[Max]

You can start.

[Big Cat]

Okay. The Niners are by any which way they can. They have another devastating injury this game with Craig. George Kittle going out with an Achilles, which sucks. He. Did he drink an entire tequila bottle in the. In the locker room. Diana, great reporting by her.

[PFT Commenter]

That rocks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that rocks. That sucked. It was windy. It was Gross. The defense of the Niners is very injured, but they found a way. And they found a way through Christian Caffrey being Christian McCaffrey and having. What do you have? Like 115 yards, I think total and two touchdowns. They had DeMarcus Robinson, who his season high for yards on the season in the game was 44. Two catches for 44 was a season high game. He had one touchdown all season. In 14 games he went 6 for 111 in a touchdown. They had Kyle, you shack, catching the ball. George Kittle goes out and they just like, all right, Kyle, you shack, you be George kittle. He caught four, four passes for 49 yards.

[PFT Commenter]

Really good catches too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Any which way. And then it really. Juwan Jennings. The trick play, the touchdown that seals the game was a ballsy, ballsy play in the wind in the circumstances, but it was incredible win for the 49ers. Like they just gutted it out.

[PFT Commenter]

So the Niners have now won 11 consecutive wild card or divisional games. Wow. And it's been 23 years since they lost in a playoff game that was not the NFC championship game.

[Big Cat]

This is what they do. They go to the NFC championship game.

[PFT Commenter]

This is what they do. They were. They. It never felt like a real great offense on either side of the football. Quinon Mitchell had a great game.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Brock Purdy played pretty well. Like he.

[Big Cat]

He did. He did enough. He did.

[PFT Commenter]

He did enough to win. He made a couple boneheaded mistakes and had some bad picks. But besides those, I thought Brock Purdy like he. His ability to improvise a little bit and his ability to buy a few seconds in the pocket and wait for somebody to get open. That was the difference in the game. And.

[Big Cat]

And Juan Jennings with the unbelievable pass. You know Juwan Jennings. Do you know who Juwan Jennings? He was a recruited as a dual threat qb.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Do you know who he was ranked ahead of in his class? Any guesses?

[PFT Commenter]

Joe Burrow.

[Big Cat]

Darnold Darnold. Joe Burrow. And Lamar Jackson. Sheesh.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So he was the fifth ranked quarterback. Donald was six, Joe Burrow was seven. Lamar Jackson was nine in that class.

[PFT Commenter]

So he now has the the third highest amount of postseason passing touchdowns from any Tennessee volunteer.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Behind Peyton Manning with 40.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And Pat Ryan who has five. He's got two now.

[Big Cat]

He's got two. I also saw Ian Hartits on. I guess I said his name right. It's Hard Tits.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

H R H A R T I T Z. That's Hard Tits.

[PFT Commenter]

Hard Tits.

[Big Cat]

Hard Tits.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

In Hartits tweeted out career postseason touchdown passes. Juwan Jennings 2, Derek Carr 1. Remember Mike Thomas? Yeah, he retweeted that.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I've got.

[Big Cat]

I forgot about Mike Thomas.

[PFT Commenter]

I've got maybe stat of the day. Okay, Saturday from Dante Cop Phlegm. Juwan Jennings had more completed passes over 15 air yards than Jalen Hurts did. He had one. Jalen Hurts over five.

[Big Cat]

This was the most like, okay, I want to hear Max's take on all this, but I my take from, from the outside here is that Eagles fans are not happy, but maybe a little relieved because this game was essentially every single game they watched this year where the defense was very good and the offense was completely unimaginative and they had spurts where they looked good. Saquon was good in the first half. Then they stopped the run they couldn't pass. It was painful to watch and it's almost like being put down for the season and being like, you know what, it's better that this is over right now because the offense was so bad it was never going to happen. And now you can actually make meaningful changes. I saw Dan Orlovsky said he watched the tape. There were on the, on the Eagles final drive to try to win the game, they ran 10 plays on the full drive. Four of those plays of the 10 were either a repeat a previous play from that drive or a repeat from a play they had already run that game. So they just didn't have enough plays. They were just running the same plays that just didn't work over and over.

[Max]

I mean, there it was. Coach Ducks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was me. It was if I were the offensive coordinator of the Philadelphia Eagles. And I just kept on doing mesh over the middle, throwing to the same receiver and then every now and then running the ball behind the tackle.

[Max]

Fourth and eleven. It was four verts. It was the Madden play. Four verts that every single kid plays, uses when they, like, want to get a big play.

[PFT Commenter]

This actually you catch on the sideline. What happened before that play?

[Max]

I. People keep showing that I don't really understand.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. So, I mean, I saw it in real time and I was like, that. That was weird. So they, they go to the sideline. You got Kevin Patullo, you've got Nick Sirianni, you've got Jalen hurts. And Kevin Patullo is talking to Jalen hurts. And then he tosses a play out there. He says, a play. And then he looks at Nick Sirianni and Sirianni gives us a look like, I don't know, but if. If that's what you think, if you're, like, passionate about that play, I guess I trust you. And then Jalen Hurts was like, I guess he's telling me to run this play. And everybody was like, I. It better work, because Sirianni obviously did not like it whatever he said. And then they went out there and did that. And the fact that it was four verts is. Is kind of crazy. And also, like, Petullo. Yes. Bad offensive coordinator. I feel like Sirianni's got to step in right there. Like, if he doesn't like to play 100, that's your job. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Look at his.

[Max]

Yeah, look at his face.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Watch it.

[Big Cat]

And he was just like.

[PFT Commenter]

You see it?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, you can't see.

[Max]

Hurts. Hurts his face.

[Big Cat]

So I. As much as everyone. Yeah, Kevin Petullo. That's it.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, no. He says it. And then Sirianni gives a look like, dude, yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like, okay.

[Big Cat]

You sure? Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then for Verts and Jalen Hurts is like, I don't know the.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

People are going to come after Jalen Hurts. I. I don't know what you do with. With some of these plate. Like, I. I don't put a ton of blame on Jalen Hurts. He won the Super Bowl MVP last year. I don't. I. I just don't put him as the top of the Eagles problems.

[Max]

There's also three drops on third down. AJ Brown had a horrendous game. He was fighting with the coaches.

[PFT Commenter]

No, not true. Tom Brady said they've. They've got a great, great relationship.

[Max]

He was yelling at the coach. I mean, he was. I don't know what else. He was yelling at the coach. He can have a good relationship with the coach and still yell at him on the sideline because he was late getting off of the field, and Sirianni was trying to tell him to get off the field so he didn't get a penalty.

[PFT Commenter]

Sirianni, like, sprinted over to him. And then, because we were about to get a penalty, and then AJ, like, got in his face, and Big Dom. Thank God Big Dom was there hanging.

[Zach]

I know.

[Hank]

I'm just sad the Eagles lost because it just means no more Big Dom.

[PFT Commenter]

For the year also. Big Dom, great hands. Better hands than A.J. brown.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good catch. Good catch.

[Max]

Yeah. You're absolutely right. It was exactly what we saw all season. It was exactly what we were scared of all season. And the offense just absolutely failed. The defense was dominant like it had been all year. There was A couple. There was a couple lapses in the defense, but for the most part, they were the only ones that really kept you in that game in the second half. And the offenses just didn't. Didn't get it done. Whether it was Sirianni hurts, AJ Brown, devontae Smith, Kevin Petullo, everyone was a. Was a huge, huge part of the. The problem. Kevin Batullo has to be fired tomorrow.

[Big Cat]

He has to be fired already?

[Max]

Yeah. And it hurts every time the season ends. It's not a good feeling. It sucks. You don't get to watch your team play football anymore.

[PFT Commenter]

What about last year? That.

[Max]

Well, I didn't have it last year.

[Big Cat]

What ended every time.

[Max]

Yeah. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not every time.

[Big Cat]

He got you on that one.

[Max]

Okay. Yes. But we won the super bowl last year. And, I mean, this team was just never going to do it. This team was never going to do it. It was never going to win the super bowl this year. This isn't one of those losses where you. Where you see it and it's like, oh, this was our shot. This was a team that was our shot. Like, this team was never that team. So it. So it doesn't hurt as bad as, like, some other losses, like playoff losses do, but. And now you can go out and get your coordinator early.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Pft, Max.

[Big Cat]

Well, not that early because other teams are already getting coordinators.

[Max]

Who. Who's hired coordinators?

[Big Cat]

Didn't someone.

[PFT Commenter]

The commanders did.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the Commanders.

[PFT Commenter]

David Blouse. Sorry. David Blouse off, buddy.

[Big Cat]

Blauer.

[PFT Commenter]

Weird. Should have fired him already. Yeah, fired him already, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Tough break, that.

[PFT Commenter]

Tough break.

[Big Cat]

It's tough.

[Max]

Yeah. I mean, I was already looking for new coordinators last week.

[PFT Commenter]

Number one.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, but they already got their coordinator.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Hottest name in the base.

[Max]

Remember you. You were like, we're gonna. Because we. We fired Kingsbury. We're gonna get a super hot name name. And it's Blau.

[PFT Commenter]

It's Blau. Yeah, it's Blau, baby.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

You got a problem with blau?

[Big Cat]

Sounds like you got a problem with Blau.

[Max]

This is the first I'm hearing of Blau.

[Big Cat]

You missed the news. There was big news.

[Max]

Is that how you spell it?

[Big Cat]

Purdue. Yeah, yeah. Purdue. Boilermaker.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Detroit Lions.

[Max]

I actually remember this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Did we have him on the show?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. His sister is. I think his sister's brother. Or no, his wife's brother is Christian Gonzalez from the Patriots.

[Hank]

That's awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Fun fact. Yeah. Max, I had a question, though.

[Big Cat]

So you're Already behind in the coordinator. Just so we're clear.

[Max]

Sorry.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Pft. I have a question. What does this mean for the window?

[Big Cat]

It actually makes it perfect for the window.

[Max]

What do you mean?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just saying, like, where are we in the window right now for the.

[Big Cat]

Eagles next year you're going to win the super bowl or at least go there.

[Max]

It's a, there's a, there's a theme here. Win the super bowl losing the first round or go to the super bowl losing the first round.

[Big Cat]

It's not only that, it's 20, 22, 11, 14 and three reach Super Bowl. 20, 23, 11 and six losing wild card. 20, 24, 14 and three reach Super Bowl. They won it. 20, 25, 11 and six, losing wild card. So they're now four years in a row. They just had the same season.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Max]

And we're gonna go get a coordinator and we'll be back next year.

[PFT Commenter]

You think? Is Lane coming back next year?

[Big Cat]

Pro.

[Max]

Yes, Lane will be back.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Officially reported by Max.

[Max]

Yeah, I, I, he's not gonna end. Yeah, he's not gonna end that way.

[Big Cat]

No, he's not gonna end that way. Need some offensive line. Like that was a big part of the Eagles. The play calling was number one. You guys couldn't run the ball like you could in years past. Like Saquon started to break a couple today and it felt like the Eagles were gonna find their mojo. And then he kind of like there was just a bunch of negative run plays in the second half.

[Max]

There's so many penalties that just fucked. They were playing behind the sticks the entire second half.

[Big Cat]

This is a quintessential like we, the Eagles told us who they were all year.

[Max]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

And then it doesn't. Right.

[Max]

There's no like fireworks, blah, blah, blah like that. That is what it was.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Max]

So we knew that we were going to get to this point eventually. So it like we were trying to convince ourselves that we weren't. But, but deep down we all, we knew, we knew this offense was not good enough to win a Super Bowl. So it's, it's.

[PFT Commenter]

Who do you want now that we've established Blouse off the market?

[Big Cat]

Who are your can't get David Blau.

[PFT Commenter]

Your top guys for cool.

[Big Cat]

So don't even think about it.

[Max]

McDaniel.

[Big Cat]

Mike.

[Max]

Mike.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you concerned at all about his very close relationship with Dan Quinn affecting his ability to call plays for the Eagles in games against the Commanders? He'd probably tank those games.

[Max]

Who you guys signed an offensive coordinator.

[PFT Commenter]

David Blau.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

So he can't go to. He can't go to the commanders.

[PFT Commenter]

I didn't say that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he didn't say that.

[PFT Commenter]

I said, are you. If he is your offensive coordinator, he'll probably tank those games against his best friend.

[Max]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Dan Quinn.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

No, I guess that's a.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Max]

That's something I got to think about.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, thank you.

[Big Cat]

You should probably think about.

[PFT Commenter]

So McDaniel. McDaniel. I agree. I think McDaniel, brilliant offensive mind. Maybe one of the guys that would be best suited to be, like, the best offensive coordinator in the league.

[Big Cat]

And Vic Fangio coordinated for him in Miami. So maybe. I mean, they know. I know that's obviously not, you know, Vic Fangio is the defensive coordinator, but still, there's a relationship there.

[Max]

That's good. That's a good connection.

[Big Cat]

There you go. I got that connection for you.

[Max]

Brian Dable, also, potentially, he was. Jalen Hurts, his coordinator at Alabama.

[PFT Commenter]

When they kicked, when they said, hey, we're not. We're going to go to a maybe.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, that doesn't. We're not.

[PFT Commenter]

We're digging a little bit, too.

[Big Cat]

Why are you doing so many details? It was crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

I actually don't know the answer.

[Max]

Alabama. Alabama claims Jalen Hurt.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

As they should. I mean, listen, for all the shit that we give him, we do it because we know he's a really good quarterback and he's just looked sad this year. It's looked. It's looked bad. It's looked depressing.

[Max]

We need a new coordinator. We need a new coordinator.

[PFT Commenter]

And do you need a new receiver?

[Max]

A.J. brown's probably gone. I'll say that.

[PFT Commenter]

Didn't speak to the media. Hugged. All his teammates yelled with.

[Big Cat]

Yelled at. They had a little shouting match on the sideline during the game. A.J. brown and Nick Sirianni. What do we think about that? Feels like those guys probably.

[PFT Commenter]

Great relationship.

[Big Cat]

Great relationship.

[Max]

Great relationship.

[Big Cat]

Nick Sirani said afterward after the game. I have a special relationship with him. We probably went through every emotion you can possibly have together that happens in this game. But I love them. Do you think they've come together?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If they were talking to every emotion.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I think you got to. I think you got to get the boys in a room. Play Okie cookie at some point.

[Big Cat]

Max me. Phone sex.

[Max]

Like, what do you think that. What would a return be for AJ Brown?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Like a trade return.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. Because it feels like the relationship there is. Is done.

[Big Cat]

Like, maybe second. I don't. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, maybe because.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It doesn't feel like you're negotiable, but it's Howie. Yeah. How he's probably gonna get two firsts. Howie. You know he will.

[PFT Commenter]

How old is he now? 29?

[Big Cat]

28.

[PFT Commenter]

28.

[Max]

He's still young.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he is still young, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you want him?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Would you give me. Would you what? Would you give up?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, give it. Negotiate right now with Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Fifth rounder.

[Big Cat]

Oh, then you're.

[Hank]

He's still not playing for you guys. So what is?

[Max]

Why not?

[Big Cat]

Why not? He's under contract.

[Max]

Sure.

[Big Cat]

Can and did you not see that the. The Nick Sirianni and A.J. brown have a special relationship. They've been through every emotion you can possibly have together and maybe coming.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes.

[Max]

Just told me I should trade him to the Bills.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's. I'm sure. I don't know where A.J. brown's going to go. Maybe he'll just be in Philadelphia. I.

[Max]

There. That's also a chance because of the debt. There's also the dead Cap is going to be crazy if.

[Big Cat]

If who care you have Howie, you'll figure.

[Max]

I don't understand.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think they're gonna.

[Big Cat]

No one does.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I really don't. I'd be very surprised if he was an Eagle next year.

[Max]

Yeah, I. I would probably lean. Lean that way.

[PFT Commenter]

Because it's not just the. The attitude stuff that they don't seem to see eye to eye on. It's the fact that he'll have these moments where him and the coaching staff are. Are at odds with each other, and then his game is just way off. Like, he was not good today. He was bad. He was bad today.

[Big Cat]

He's bad. Did. What are you going to do, though, if you get rid of A.J. brown? You need another receiver, right.

[Max]

Howie?

[Big Cat]

Okay. I mean, I did see a guy on the sidelines with some. Making some nice catches.

[Max]

Big Dom.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Great catch.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What if I got you a Big Dom Le Boo Boo? You wouldn't put it on your backpack?

[Hank]

No.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[Hank]

Because I'm not 12, okay.

[Big Cat]

Why else.

[Max]

I would. I would love a Big Dom.

[Shane]

The Boo Boo.

[Max]

That thing was sick.

[Big Cat]

The Labubu was Big Dom. It was a Labubu. Sounds like you don't respect Labubus.

[Hank]

No, not really.

[Big Cat]

You don't even know what they are.

[Hank]

No, they're. They're actually. They're like action figures, stuffed animals. I don't fucking know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they're kids toys gotten in the little Boo Boo game.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, how do you feel about was in my house. Jake smell it.

[Max]

He's gone.

[Big Cat]

It was windy. He sucks. Yeah, but it was windy.

[PFT Commenter]

So I don't think that he sucks because I looked it up.

[Big Cat]

Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Jake smell it is, I believe, a top five kicker for field goals in playoff history.

[Max]

What about extra points?

[PFT Commenter]

Extra points? He is the worst of all time and it's not really close on extra points. He has attempted 43. He's made 31 out of 43. That's a 72% extra point rate that camp in the playoffs. It is true. That's Jake Elliott. So 72% on extra points. Second place, second worst is 86% and then 89, 91. He's 72% on extra points, but he's a top five kicker in terms of accuracy on field goals. Kicks longer than that, there's just. There's something about an extra point that really him up in the playoffs.

[Max]

What about total kicks?

[PFT Commenter]

What do you mean total kicks?

[Max]

If you. The percentage of every time he kicks the ball through and uprights.

[Big Cat]

Oh, every time he's kicked.

[PFT Commenter]

If you add in field goal percentage and extra points.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Max]

That's like. I don't know if that exists.

[PFT Commenter]

It's way too much math for me.

[Big Cat]

I would.

[Max]

I would have a feeling that he's. If you include both of them, he's still probably not very good.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, yeah, because of all the extra points.

[Max]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what we're saying. Yeah.

[Max]

The extras are important.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The extra point, it. It made a big difference with how the Eagles tried to come back in that game.

[Max]

Yeah. We were down four, three, four points and.

[PFT Commenter]

And the Niners missed one too.

[Big Cat]

But maybe he missed one so that he wouldn't have to take a game tying field goal. And then because he didn't want to miss that. Maybe kind of smart, but he would.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the thing is like he would have made the game tying field goal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, true. Because it wasn't an extra point.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think you. He's just trying to tell Sirianni, hey, go for two every time. The Eagles should go for two every time in the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Is the touch push broken?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Max]

Touch was worked today.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I thought it did, but I feel like.

[Max]

I mean it's the. Throughout the year it's been significantly worse. But today was good.

[Big Cat]

I thought you handled yourself well in the stream.

[Max]

I don't why I.

[Big Cat]

You were fine. You were locked in. You complained to it. There was a couple funny moments you had. You complained a lot about commercials. You also when they showed the game, they zoomed in. They did the sky cam coming into the stadium and it was just a bunch of fans, I think, holding up pieces of paper that said go Birds. And Max got so mad that there. He did not.

[Max]

I was just confused.

[Big Cat]

He didn't know there was going to be reading involved in this football game. He's like, what the. The is this? The is this. It's like Max. It just says birds.

[Max]

I just didn't know what it was. I was, I, I was in one of those modes where everything I was saying was coming out angry, but that. I actually was just curious. What is this?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Your tone was locked in.

[Max]

My tone. My tone was angry, but my words were, what is this?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Max]

And I was, I was, I was just curious as to what it was.

[PFT Commenter]

It felt vaguely like soccer.

[Big Cat]

Ish. Yeah.

[Max]

I just didn't know what it was. Yeah, it looked. It was kind of. It was kind of cool, but I didn't know what it was and I was, I wanted to know what it was.

[PFT Commenter]

Does anybody get meatballs after this game?

[Max]

Quinion, he had a bad first drive, but he was so good the rest of the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he.

[Max]

He really tried to get us back in that game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was a. It was a. It was a. I mean, it's credit to Niners. The Niners are just a never die team.

[Max]

Not that good.

[Big Cat]

I know, but they, they did enough. They didn't have. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like George Kittle tears Achilles.

[Max]

That's what I'm saying.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

The Eagles aren't like that.

[Big Cat]

Just.

[Max]

That team is just whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

So you're.

[Big Cat]

They have mental toughness. They do. The Niners.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, for sure. Right.

[Max]

I'm just saying, like the talent on that team on that. There was more talent on the Eagles. On the Eagles roster today, by far.

[Big Cat]

Right. But that's not how they play the game.

[Max]

Kyle Shanahan is significantly, much better Coach.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Christian McCaffrey looked great today also. So did Saquon. Saquon look great.

[Max]

Was great. Saquon was great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'm just always impressed with Niners because, I mean, you've said it pft, you know, a ton. Like, this is Kyle Shanahan's best coaching job.

[PFT Commenter]

I really think that especially there's a.

[Big Cat]

Lot of teams that if they have a lot of these injuries, they just fold in and they're just like, well, we can't, you know, we can't compete. We have these injuries.

[PFT Commenter]

You mentioned Kyle Shanahan if they took away that giant electromagnetic station next to the practice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Having the Achilles injury to. To Kittle right after that story went viral. It's not the best timing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Niners fans just show up with a shitload of magnets.

[Max]

I think Kendrick Bourne brought it up.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he did?

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What do you say? Get that thing out of there.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But.

[Max]

But then he was like, I'm just kidding.

[Big Cat]

But he's not. Because we said it. They're gonna. They're gonna make them get rid of that.

[PFT Commenter]

I did. I did hear Dr. David Chow talk about it, and he said that you actually use that same like the electromagnetic frequency. Use that to heal injuries. So if anything, he thinks it would make them healthier.

[Big Cat]

Ah.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe they just get super healthy when they practice, like on their practice field. And then the second they're away from the giant power plant.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Then their bodies are like, what's going on?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I need my electromagnetic therapy flowing through my body at all times.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Huh.

[PFT Commenter]

We got to do something about the power plant.

[Big Cat]

We got. We got to fix the power plant.

[PFT Commenter]

Just at least. At least rename it. Let's say that it's like a flower nursery or something. But you can keep the power going. But now it's mental.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Now it's in their heads.

[Big Cat]

I agree. Last question for you, Max. What?

[Max]

Zach is saying that we have one next to our office.

[Zach]

Don't we have one right. Right across the street?

[PFT Commenter]

We do.

[Zach]

Straight ahead.

[PFT Commenter]

We do.

[Big Cat]

It's a power plant.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a. Yeah. It's a power facility. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I thought it was. Yeah.

[Zach]

All the injury prone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Kidney stones.

[Big Cat]

You know, it's a good way to. To counteract the power plant and becoming injury prone. Never doing anything.

[PFT Commenter]

It's true.

[Zach]

Sedentary.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Just don't move. Don't move. You can't get injured.

[Zach]

I don't hate that move.

[Big Cat]

Right. No, it's not a move.

[Zach]

I don't hate that.

[Big Cat]

Don't move. Yeah, it's a lack of move.

[PFT Commenter]

We should just be on. On motorized wheelchairs around this office.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that is a substation. Fucking.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Max]

No, no, no.

[Hank]

Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

That's the.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

That's not where we are. I think we're fine.

[Max]

I think we're fine.

[Big Cat]

We're fine. There's just like a. I think it's like a cell phone tower. It's 5G. We'll probably get canceled.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, look at whatever. We're all super healthy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

I'll say that. We have one thing that's coming up That. I don't know if it's announced yet, but I'm. I'm worried about what?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Oh, actually, not even that. Well, that's.

[Big Cat]

Oh, football. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Super bowl week. Yeah.

[Max]

I don't know if that's announced yet.

[Big Cat]

I think we should. I think we should do. I don't think it is announced yet, but I think we're going to be playing some form of football. We should just do it. You know those videos of guys in the locker room where they do walking routes?

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

You know, and that. We should just do a walking football game.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that.

[Big Cat]

No one can go faster than a walk.

[PFT Commenter]

I like that. Also, when we're out there for the super bowl, we should check out this. This electric facility. Yes. We should do some boots on the ground.

[Big Cat]

We should go touch it. Yeah. Because you have Zach touch it.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, that's a great loser of this picks thing to do.

[Big Cat]

Go touch it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Touch the substation.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Do burpees next to it until you.

[Zach]

Tear everything in your body or get healed by the. By the other side.

[Big Cat]

So that.

[PFT Commenter]

It's true.

[Big Cat]

Yep, that's true.

[Zach]

Could get superpowers.

[Big Cat]

I have one last question, Max. Is there any chance Nick Sirianni gets fired?

[Max]

I think that there is one. One scenario.

[Big Cat]

That.

[Max]

That pug brought it up to me. And Kevin Batula and Nick Sirianni are very good friends.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Max]

If Jeffrey Laurie is like, we need. We need to get rid of. We need to get rid of Kevin Petullo. And Nick Sirianni says no. If he goes, I go.

[Big Cat]

There's no way he would do that.

[Max]

I don't think he would either. But you asked. Is there any scenario. That's the only scenario.

[PFT Commenter]

And if he does say that, then he deserves to be fine. Then he doesn't have the best interest in the team.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Because you. There's just a 0% chance you can run. You can run that back.

[Big Cat]

Are you worried about Nick Sirianni for the future? Is he on the hot seat going into next year?

[Max]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

That'S. That's a lot.

[Big Cat]

I'm just gonna lie.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna say, Max, that's a lot.

[Big Cat]

You're being nice right now. You know, that's a lot.

[PFT Commenter]

You're saying that you don't want him fired right now. Which I agree with. He just won. He's proven that he can. He can bring guys together, lead you to a championship. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He shouldn't be fired.

[PFT Commenter]

Should not be fired right now. Absolutely not. But you know for a fact, and You're a liar if you say otherwise. That we could get to, like, week four of next year and you guys have a bad loss and your offense looks broken and he's not on the hot seat. He's on the hot seat.

[Big Cat]

And that's. By the way, that's a Philly hot seat. That's not a. Anywhere else, you wouldn't be on the hot seat two years removed from a Super Bowl.

[Max]

He's on the. He's on the Philly hot seat right now. Like, when it comes to, like, people of Philadelphia. He is on the hot seat. I am just telling you what I. What I think.

[Big Cat]

So he's on the hot seat next year.

[Max]

He's on the hot seat now.

[Big Cat]

Like, coaching for his job.

[Max]

Oh, always.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It is his job to coach.

[Max]

Always. It's his job.

[Big Cat]

It's his job. It is his job.

[Max]

I. I don't think that he should be on the hot seat, but there's a lot of talk right now. There is that he is there now.

[Big Cat]

Other nice one is Max, you don't have to stay in San Francisco for the whole weekend and, you know, try.

[Max]

To find nice at all.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I was trying to be nice. I don't know. That's.

[Max]

That would be great. I would love to stay in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, I agree. I was just trying to find. I don't know. You're pretty hungover when you got back. You're not gonna be this hungover.

[Max]

I would love to be. I would love to be that hungover.

[PFT Commenter]

Another nice thing, you don't have to go to the game next week.

[Big Cat]

I would have loved to go. We. The Aws lost. Content. We lost because now the Bears are just in an NFC west tournament. And it would have been awesome to have us go to the. The Eagles. Bears game. Yeah, it would have been fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Would you have rather played the Packers?

[Big Cat]

No. Why?

[PFT Commenter]

Packers lost.

[Max]

Eagles lost.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Yeah, that Niners team. Everyone got hurt on that team. Like, there was no excuse. Not. They were just not. They were just not going to go on a run. So it doesn't matter who they played because let's say you beat the Pack.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, did you not hear the stat, though? They haven't lost in a divisional or wild card round in, like, forever.

[Max]

That's not true. At home. At home?

[PFT Commenter]

No, the. No, the Niners.

[Big Cat]

You screwed that up. Yeah. Like, you. You should have taken the Packers. You should have won week. Week 18.

[Max]

Yeah. I don't know what to tell you.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Let's take a break and then we'll Talk Sunday football. Then we have who's back of the week and we'll finish up the show. Pft. You got a couple ads.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay. Sunday Night Football. The Patriots beat the Chargers 16 to 3. We should actually. We should get.

[PFT Commenter]

We should.

[Big Cat]

We should get Shane. Shane in the booth, right? He's got to be in here because that. He's got to talk. We'll start with you.

[PFT Commenter]

He's got an answer for his team.

[Big Cat]

That was a beat down. Not. I mean, it was a close game for until the fourth quarter, but you guys might go to jail for what you did to Justin Herbert. That was a dominant defensive performance.

[Hank]

I think the Chargers should go to jail.

[Big Cat]

That's what they've done to just her. But you guys. Dom, like it was basically Drake May his. In the first half. He wasn't lighting the world on fire passing it, but his legs. That play at the end of the first half was electric. And then because the, the Patriots defense was so suffocating it allowed him to like get his feet wet in the playoffs in the second half. He was, he was awesome. Yeah.

[Hank]

Game started off like as badly as it could have. Interception gave the Chargers the ball in like the 10 yard line. They didn't score a point and it was just that the. It was funny when they, they showed the.

[Big Cat]

Shane is here by the way, the.

[Hank]

Chargers offensive lineman when they were doing players introductions and their, their PFF rankings were like dead last. Dead last. Second to dead last third.

[PFT Commenter]

One of them just didn't have a ranking. Yeah, yeah, they just skipped that guy.

[Big Cat]

This guy's new.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, we don't know but yeah, they.

[Hank]

Were, they were, they were. They were just not a ball.

[PFT Commenter]

They were not a ball club.

[Big Cat]

They were not a ball.

[PFT Commenter]

I will admit that the, the Chargers offense seemed to be like, watch out Justin, there's a guy there. Like. And then him running away from that guy.

[Hank]

But also they were like running their receivers deep. They were doing deep routes. It's like, you know he's gonna have no time. They should just be trying to think and Duncan, they just weren't.

[Big Cat]

The game felt like it was over when the Chargers couldn't that the, the tip ball interception that Drake May had at the beginning of the game and the Chargers got zero points. Like, okay, that's it. Like you, you're not going to win this game. You can't, you can't move the ball 2 yards when you need to.

[Hank]

It was a. Once we got it outside of a one score game, I. That's when I felt like the game was over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was over. It was over.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So you feel, you feel good. Yeah.

[Hank]

It's fun to play meaningful football. I didn't think it was a pretty game by any means. The defense played well.

[Big Cat]

It was the ugliest game of all the games. It was also fast.

[Hank]

It was like the fastest game of all time. Like it was. It was waiting all day for Sunday night and then we blinked and it was the fourth quarter.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you guys ran the ball well. I mean like I said, the Drake May felt like the second half he kind of woke up and, and it was good.

[Hank]

Yeah. It's like obviously it was his first playoff game at home. They're gonna get another chance next week. He got his feet wet. He had a big throw.

[PFT Commenter]

The.

[Hank]

The throw to Hunter Henry for a touchdown was a great pass.

[Big Cat]

Dot.

[Hank]

Great pass moving in the pocket. So, yeah, it was a great win. Exciting. Ready for whoever we play.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you're underselling a little bit, Hank, because I don't know if you connected the dots like I connected when I watched, but this is my biggest bet of the year so far. Calendar year. Congrats on the Patriots. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, it was no doubter the way that the defense played, especially eerily similar to Tom Brady's first playoff game. One interception. Your field goal kicker makes three field goals. Defense just owns the other team and you score 16 points and win. Same thing happened Tom Brady's first game.

[Hank]

That's good. That was a historically good defense. I don't know. These Patriots are.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I mean, they're carrying. They carried Drake. How many did this win? It was awesome.

[Big Cat]

How many times.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, no, I'm saying. No, I'm saying this Pats team is, like, primed to be a dynasty.

[Big Cat]

You're right.

[PFT Commenter]

Because like Drake, maybe. Yeah, he can. He can manage it. And then let the defense carry him, and then he'll evolve into being a great quarterback.

[Big Cat]

I think where you're going.

[PFT Commenter]

And I got it. No, it's just like, no one's going to argue with the success of. Patriots had. Right. With Tom Brady. Best quarterback to ever play football, for sure. And this is the exact blueprint that they've got with Drake. May.

[Big Cat]

I love.

[PFT Commenter]

I love it.

[Hank]

I'm down. I'm. I'm. I'm buying what you're selling. I'm in.

[Big Cat]

They sacked Justin Herbert six times. It felt like more than that because he just was getting demolished. And I mean, the Patriots defense played well. Yeah, like, they. They dominated him. Absolutely dominate. Is Christian Gonzalez concussed?

[Hank]

He. Yeah, he wasn't allowed to speak with reporters after the game because that's just how it goes if you go out with a concussion. But a reporter said he saw him in the locker room and said he's fine.

[Big Cat]

Okay, but is he concussed?

[Hank]

He told him he was fine.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, well, the fact that he got taken out of the game and then wasn't allowed to talk to the media tells me he's probably.

[Hank]

Well, no. Anyone that gets taken.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no. Know.

[Hank]

Anyone that gets taken out of the game for head injury is not allowed to talk to the media. That's just.

[Big Cat]

You've learned that rule today.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, probably.

[Big Cat]

And now you're. You're stunting it on.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Now you're hand waving me.

[Big Cat]

You. You learn. The only. The only reason you're able to talk down to us right now is that you Learned that rule 20 minutes before we did. Yeah.

[Hank]

Now you can do it to other people.

[PFT Commenter]

But wait, but why didn't. Why didn't he go back in the game?

[Hank]

Because they were. The game was over. Safety.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think the game was over.

[Hank]

Patriots care about player safety.

[Big Cat]

He got. He got seen by the spotter.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then he got taken to the locker room. So he. He is most likely concussed. He wasn't concussed. He would have been back in the game.

[Hank]

I can only go off what Christian Gonzalez has said and that he's fine.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, he hasn't said anything.

[Hank]

That's what he said to this reporter.

[Big Cat]

So that's illegal. You're not supposed to talk to reporters if you've been.

[Hank]

No, you're not supposed to do media.

[Big Cat]

Well, then what is talking to a reporter? You can see it's all legal.

[Hank]

Like, when you talk to someone in the office. Like, I can see PFT in the kitchen and be like, you're a. But like, if I. That's different than if I said that on. On the podcast, then it would be official.

[PFT Commenter]

How is it different?

[Hank]

It's just. It's on the record versus off the record.

[PFT Commenter]

But he talked to the reporter.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. Well, no, Hank, that's not off the record because then the reporter said it.

[Big Cat]

It.

[Hank]

I'll find it.

[Big Cat]

Find it for us.

[PFT Commenter]

So it seems to me Hank might be right. They might have given him the concussion test, and he passed it so well that they're like, well, this is crazy. We better get you to locker room and get you on a plane so you can start solving science.

[Hank]

It was in the locker room. Zach. Christian. This is Zach Cox. Great. Patriots follow. Christian Gonzalez is in the locker room after the game. Said he couldn't talk to the media. Typical for players who leave with a head injury, but that he feels fine.

[Big Cat]

Fine.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so he left with.

[Hank]

So you actually might be able to speak to the media after injury.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so you were wrong. No, no, no. Overall, what would you give the grade of the game?

[PFT Commenter]

I would give it.

[Big Cat]

It was very boring.

[Hank]

It was dominant. I'll give it a seven and a half. Out to playoff wins. A playoff win. It's tough to come by. You got to. Got to dig deep, got to grind, especially going up against a ball Club. It was good. I mean, kind of what I was expecting all week. Shane. Shane. They did nothing. They didn't put up really any fight.

[Shane]

Did nothing.

[Big Cat]

Yes, sir. Shane, how you feeling?

[Shane]

I. I don't know if I could feel worse.

[PFT Commenter]

That was just like a.

[Shane]

Pathetic, pathetic. Like this is just like the third game in the third playoff game in a row. It just felt like the Chargers lost the game as opposed to like the other team beating them. You know, you blew the, blew the Jaguars and Herbert throws four interceptions and then now just the offense did nothing.

[Big Cat]

Absolutely nothing.

[Shane]

Can I read a stat for you guys?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, please.

[Shane]

In the Jim Harbaugh, Greg Roman, Justin Herbert era, they have had 22 offensive possessions. How many of those possessions have resulted in a touchdown?

[Big Cat]

Two playoff games, 22 offensive possessions.

[Hank]

Didn't score one tonight.

[Big Cat]

Two one, one.

[Shane]

One touchdown in 22 possessions.

[Big Cat]

So you got to get rid of.

[Shane]

Greg Groen Roman that if, if there's a silver lining to come out of this game, it has to be Harbaugh needs to like Clearhouse offensively and like.

[Big Cat]

The defense was good tonight. The defense actually hung in there.

[Shane]

Yeah, our defense. That's what I'm kind of like. I'm really upset about is because Jesse Mentor is like elite defensive play caller like he is. But he is for sure 100 getting a head coach job this year and who knows where that's going to leave us. Harbaugh really needs to do some thinking about where this coaching staff is going to be next year because it is. It's looking grim right now.

[PFT Commenter]

It does feel like you're wasting Justin.

[Shane]

Herbert for sure does.

[PFT Commenter]

And what year is this for him?

[Big Cat]

Six.

[PFT Commenter]

This is.

[Shane]

Yeah, he was drafted in 2020.

[PFT Commenter]

You're six. Yeah. I mean it's not like he's old.

[Shane]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

But I mean they're. He's got six years under his belt and it doesn't look any better than it did his rookie year.

[Big Cat]

It looks worse.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Like to put him behind that offensive line is just a travesty to, to.

[PFT Commenter]

Argue in favor of the Chargers just a little bit. They did try to build up the offensive line. Like, you can't plan for Joe Alt to go down. You can't plan for Slater to go down at the start of the season. Like that's, that is some bad luck. It's almost like the Chargers. Oh, shit. That everything in the Charger facility has the lightning bolt on it. I understand they might be dealing with the electric pulses too.

[Zach]

That's true.

[Shane]

I do understand that point. But also in that Houston Texans game last year, that playoff game. Herbert was pressured, like 70%, all from the interior. And it's kind of like a famous quote in like the, in like the Charger sphere. But there's a. There's a reporter.

[PFT Commenter]

Charger sphere.

[Big Cat]

There's a.

[Shane]

There's a reporter, Daniel Palmer. And it was after they signed Makai Becton and they asked our rgm, Greg Roman. They're like, Joe Ortiz. They asked him like you did. Do you think you did enough to like.

[Big Cat]

Sure.

[Shane]

Up this offensive line? And he said, 11 wins is pretty good. I don't know about you.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[Shane]

That's what he said. So here we are again. 11 wins.

[Zach]

I mean, are you.

[PFT Commenter]

In a weird way, like, the more Justin Herbert looks bad in playoffs for, for games like this, the better he looks as a quarterback. The fact that he was able to get them there.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then you watch it tonight and you're like, this guy is special. And I feel bad for him.

[Shane]

Yeah. I mean that. I. I thought he liked, got knocked out. That one hit, that one hit was so brutal.

[Big Cat]

But he talked to the media after, so he couldn't have gotten knocked out.

[Shane]

No.

[Hank]

Did you see Robert Spain's comment?

[Big Cat]

What'd he say?

[Hank]

He said a Chargers player came up to him after the game and said the Chargers. Chargers offense had no idea what the Patriots were doing on defense because half.

[Shane]

Of them never played football before.

[Big Cat]

That's a tough.

[Hank]

That's a tough admission to your opponent right after the game.

[Big Cat]

Hank, do you think Justin Herbert played poorly or he has a bad offensive line. Oh, boy.

[Hank]

I mean, it's impossible. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Justin Herbert's bad. Okay.

[Big Cat]

All right. That's exactly what I was looking for.

[Shane]

Drake May's a Herbert clone.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Shane]

Drake May is a Herbert clone.

[Hank]

He's got more wins in the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Oh, for sure.

[Shane]

Yeah. But he also has, like, a competent offensive line where he actually had like, some time in the pocket and an offensive corner that could. Can scheme receivers open and he ran better. Yeah, well, he. He didn't have five people in his face in 0.5 seconds.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, do you have any worries about having a run first quarterback that takes a lot of damage? No.

[Big Cat]

Do you have any worries about having a Justin Herbert clone in the playoffs knowing that Justin Herbert hasn't won a playoff game?

[PFT Commenter]

That's a good point.

[Hank]

Well, we have, so. I don't really.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but now that you've been. You did that. This is before.

[Hank]

This is like. This is like.

[Big Cat]

But he just tagged. We're next gen. But he told you he tagged you with the neck.

[Max]

The.

[Big Cat]

The Cl. After you already won. So that game. Forget that game. Going forward, you're the clone. We're.

[Hank]

We're the next model up.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Justin Herbert plus.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

All right.

[Big Cat]

It sucked, Shane. Yeah. That was a brutal game to watch for you.

[Shane]

This is why I try to temper my expectations going into this week where it's.

[Big Cat]

You called it.

[Hank]

Patriots got this.

[Shane]

I said they owned this in terms of the playoffs, and. Yeah, I mean, they're proving me right, I guess.

[Big Cat]

Are you. Last question. Shane, are you a little nervous that. Is there a chance? Justin Herbert's like, I don't want to do this anymore.

[Shane]

I mean, I wouldn't blame him, but I don't think there's a chance.

[Big Cat]

No, he's in. He's. He's played six seasons in the NFL. Yo, Andrew Luck played six seasons in the NFL.

[Shane]

I don't. I don't know what Lux contract was looking like, but I don't think it was like 55 million a year. 60 million.

[Big Cat]

It was probably a lot of money.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but not that much.

[Hank]

But Madison wants to have a kid. He wants to, you know, be healthy for the kids.

[Big Cat]

I don't think that's a real thing. I'm just saying this is. It's. It's a shame that we're even like, that. These things are being said because Justin Herbert is getting done dirty. That's really what.

[Shane]

For sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Shane]

The only sad part about it is I just, like, I wouldn't blame him if he wanted to do that.

[PFT Commenter]

I hear, though, Hank, it's like he goes. Goes to Cancun with Madison for, like, two weeks. He's like, do I really want to go back to my job where I just get hit in the ribs with sledgehammers ten times a game?

[Big Cat]

I just.

[PFT Commenter]

I could just chill. We could chill together, Hank.

[Big Cat]

All right, Shane. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you.

[Hank]

Sorry, Shane.

[Big Cat]

Sorry. Charge. Hey, bolt up. Bolt up.

[Zach]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

That was a sad.

[Big Cat]

Bolt up, Hank. Who do you want? Let's talk about Monday Night Football. So this is the. This is the last. The deciding game for Super Wild Card Weekend. We already have it set. Saturday is going to be Broncos, Bills, Seahawks, Niners. They haven't given us time. The Bears Rams are going to play Sunday. The Patriots are going to play against the Texans.

[Hank]

Or.

[Big Cat]

I want the Steelers bad. All right, so my bad. Rollback question. R, H, O, b a, c, k.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts roback.com promo code take. Why do you want them bad?

[Hank]

This team barely made the playoffs.

[Shane]

They.

[Hank]

They snuck into the playoffs. Team of destiny to just make it into the playoffs.

[Big Cat]

Aaron Rodgers is old.

[Hank]

Mike Tomlin has not had a good year coaching the Texans defense is better, I think, than the Steelers defense. So I want. I want the Steelers.

[Big Cat]

So are you scared of the Texans?

[Hank]

I'm not scared of the Texans, but I want you ask the question.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, but you said one or the other. No, I know, I know I asked the question. But then you went on to say bad.

[Hank]

Well, I also Jersey Jerry, good friend, co worker. But it'd be fun to just.

[Big Cat]

He said he wanted you good.

[Hank]

Yeah, well, that he's scared. That's like.

[Big Cat]

No, he said he doesn't have a choice. Well, no, this was during the game. But he started before the game. No, he was saying it all. He said, I want the pace. I want the Patriots good.

[Hank]

Bring it. It's fun.

[Big Cat]

Which. Which. It made no sense because he. I was like, but Jerry, you would get a home playoff game. It was also partially because he's scared of the Bills. Because I was like, jerry, if. If the Chargers. When you get a home playoff game, he's like, I want the Patriots bad.

[Hank]

Well, yeah, if you. If the choice is the Patriots of the Bills, I can see why he.

[Big Cat]

Would say, but one's home and one's away.

[Hank]

Yeah, but it's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Hank]

I mean, this is Josh Allen. This is Josh Allen's playoffs to lose.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Is it not?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I do feel like we're on collision course. Patriots, Bills, AFC championship game. Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. Hank, I got a question for you about that stupid lighthouse that you pretend to have. Why don't they light the light up in the lighthouse at night during games?

[Hank]

Because the focus should be on the field.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's a lighthouse. It has one purpose. At night.

[Big Cat]

We're not doing this.

[PFT Commenter]

The light turns on. I just saw it tonight.

[Big Cat]

I got new for the Netflix viewers.

[PFT Commenter]

I got. I got pissed off. Pft.

[Hank]

So it's. It's actually not a real lighthouse house. It's not a functional.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, thank you. Thank you for admitting that.

[Hank]

So. So that.

[PFT Commenter]

That's big of you to admit that.

[Hank]

That should answer your question.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Not a real lighthouse.

[Hank]

I've confirmed that. Still my Twitter bio.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, good. It just pissed me off. If you have a lighthouse, the light should be on at night. It's the only time.

[Hank]

It's not a real lighthouse. It's the only time you've made a like a full court press to make people admit that.

[PFT Commenter]

I just think it still should be on. It's stupid.

[Max]

Your bio does not. What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

The Cape Hatteras Lighthouse is the largest.

[Max]

That has nothing to do with you saying that it's not a real lighthouse.

[Hank]

That was the whole. That was the what? Do you listen to this show, Max?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That was the entire argument.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna wave you off.

[Big Cat]

That was the entire argument, Max. I don't know if you wave. We're gonna, we're gonna treat you like you just got concussed. We're not allowed to talk to you right now. You didn't know that fact either.

[PFT Commenter]

The Cape Hatteras Lighthouse is shorter than the Gillette Lighthouse, but the Gillette Lighthouse is not a real lighthouse.

[Max]

Got it?

[PFT Commenter]

Ipso facto, the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse is the tallest lighthouse in the country.

[Max]

I thought Cape Hatteras was the name of the Patriots lighthouse.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. Hand up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they had her. Us. Because they ain't us. Hank, I would agree with you. I think that you should want the Steelers because the Texan defense is scary. But I do think that the Texans are capable of playing Steeler football. And Steeler football can beat the Texans with experience.

[Big Cat]

It's also funny.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't, you don't understand that.

[Hank]

Hold on.

[PFT Commenter]

The Texans are. The Texans are better for sure than the Steelers. I, I think anybody that's watched the NFL this season would agree that their defense is elite. Their offense has a tendency, you know, to be inconsistent. But. But they can't be very good. But I can see them getting into a game with Pittsburgh Steelers where they play the ugly, slow, gross, Pittsburgh Steeler football way. And then the Steelers play every game like that and they know how to win those games.

[Hank]

I follow. That makes sense.

[PFT Commenter]

So, like, while the. While the Texas might not be the better team, I could very easily see this being a good matchup for the Seal.

[Hank]

Also, it's not even just about me. Like, I, I care about you guys a lot. I care about this podcast. PFT said all season. This is the year that Aaron Rodgers gets in. The Steelers get a playoff win.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And it solves the pinky bet. So it's like that's, it's. It's an unselfish decision.

[Big Cat]

I will be rooting for the Steelers on Monday night. The. The funny thing is though, we're sitting talking about this game and everyone's assuming the Texans are going to. Well, the Texans are favorite and everyone's assuming they're going to win because the Steelers snuck in. But if the Steelers then beat the Texans, we'll be like, holy shit, the Texas or the Steelers look good. Yeah, Steelers are going to be a tough, tough, tough team to play.

[PFT Commenter]

We will. We're going to get that stat about the 23 straight home Monday Night Football wins that the Steelers have because this is a Monday Night Football production. So it's official.

[Shane]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

This counts on the record one of their harder games that they've had on Monday Night Football. Although they did lose Monday evening football to the commanders back in 2020. But yeah, they're putting that streak on the line tonight.

[Big Cat]

You want them bad, Bad, bad, bad, bad. So you are scared of the Texans then you wouldn't say bad like that.

[Hank]

I mean the Texans divas, the Chargers defense, like the Chargers defense, like you said, they played well. They hung in this game that I think the Texans defense is way better than the Chargers defense.

[Big Cat]

So, yeah, Texas offensive line is pretty bad too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Badgers is a million years old and.

[PFT Commenter]

The Texans have those games where the offense looks broken.

[Hank]

I mean, and historically we own both of these teams in the playoffs, so I bring either one.

[Big Cat]

There's no problem.

[PFT Commenter]

You can say that about just about any team.

[Big Cat]

Not the Broncos. Broncos in Denver.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay, great. Wild card weekend. Super wild card weekend. The other game that happened. And then we'll do who's back of the week. Indiana is just the best team in college football. And it's insane to watch what they did to Oregon on Friday night. They're just a. They're so much better than everyone right now.

[PFT Commenter]

The conversation has to go to like, are they the best college football team ever?

[Big Cat]

You and, and here's how you know that. Indiana is so dominant. We have now started down the path of people complaining that they're too old and that they're cheating somehow.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the cheating ones.

[Big Cat]

It's the saddest thing ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it started because the first play from scrimmage of the night, more through and out. And d' Angelo Pons saw the play coming, read the quarterback size, stepped in front of it for Indiana, picked it off, pick six, returned to the house. And then everybody was like, it's like he knew that pass was coming.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

Which could mean one, they study harder than everybody or study smarter than everyone. And then combine that with getting good players through the transfer portal and they, they have experienced players. Or it could mean that. That Mark Cuban has hacked his way into a company that every college football team uses to upload their plays and their playbook to, and then distributes it directly to the desk of Kurt Signetti who then studies these plays, tells his team what plays are coming first, and then they use that information to win football games. I, I tend to think that Signetti is an awesome coach and that Indiana has great players, but the, the more dominant they get. And when you look at like the, the stats behind how they're graded out with five star recruits, how they're graded out via the portal, the kind of players they get in the portal, the way that Indiana is over performing both those metrics in terms of on the field production is staggering. How much better that team is than any other team that's ever existed with. I don't even want to say similar ratings because I think the, the, the worst national championship when you take into account the portal ratings and also the recruiting ratings was University of Michigan from a couple years ago.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And Indiana is like five times worse than that team.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And so I see why people look at the stats and they're like, this is an outlier. I think is an outlier. But I think that Kurt Signetti is an outlier.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He's an incredible coach. And they're on an insane run. Fernando Mendoza has, I think it's his touch. How many touchdowns he threw against Alabama. Three. I think he has now eight touchdowns in the two playoff games and, and five incompletions.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Something ridiculous. They're just. Yeah. Kurt Signetti is, is an insane coach.

[PFT Commenter]

And they were so good. They were not going to stop until they got 50 points.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They admit Mendoza played well into the fourth quarter. I don't know if that was to scare Miami, if that was to make some sort of statement. I, I don't know. But they clearly had like, we want to score 50 and then we'll, we'll call the dogs off.

[Big Cat]

Also, we might have been right. We might, we might have been wrong about being. We were wrong about saying that we were wrong. Ohio State this year might have been.

[PFT Commenter]

Better than Ohio State last year. It could have been Indiana's just that good. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They lost it by three to. If Indiana is going to be one of the best national champions we ever crowned and Ohio State only lost by three to him. And because their kicker stinks, maybe Ohio State was that good.

[PFT Commenter]

I think this Indiana team is better than last year's Indiana team. How about that?

[Big Cat]

I would agree.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll go out on that limb.

[Big Cat]

I would agree. They're an absolute wagon and they're fun to watch and that that stadium was just all Indiana. It will be interesting. I think it will be all Indiana.

[PFT Commenter]

In Miami, which is crazy because it's in Miami.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

And, well, Indiana also has. I didn't know this. They've got the largest living alumni group in the United States.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I think there's like, what, 800, 000.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Indiana University fans, alumni that are walking around out there, and they've never had to travel for. For meaningful football games. They've been saving their money, so they're good to go. Miami will obviously have, like, some people, you know, hometown. I see that part of it. But I would expect that it's going to be heavily Indiana.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Big time. Big time. Great weekend for football.

[PFT Commenter]

Also for the cheating people out there that are claiming Indian is cheating.

[Big Cat]

It's so lame.

[PFT Commenter]

Is Elijah Surratt. Is he just, like. He's cheating, too? When he. When we see him jump up in the air over three guys and make a catch, it's. Is that cheating?

[Big Cat]

It's. This is how good. Well, you know, you've gotten to this point when it's just like, hey, you're cheating. You're too old.

[PFT Commenter]

It should be. It should be a badge of honor for every Hoosier fan to see the allegations that your football team is cheating.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You're just. You're that dominant.

[Big Cat]

I agree. Okay, let's finish off with who's back of the week. Twisted Tea is a refreshing, hard iced tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. It's the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long. Whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar or day drinking with friends, twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Grab a refreshing twisted tea today. Twisted tea. We love twisted tea. The original, the half and half the peach. Go get a twisted tea today, Hank. Who's back of the week?

[Hank]

My who's back of the week is the Golden Globes.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Bulletin board material.

[Big Cat]

We got snubbed.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Bad. Bad.

[PFT Commenter]

Who won? Amy.

[Big Cat]

Amy Schumer. Amy Poehler. We also didn't submit any of the paperwork that we. Yes.

[Hank]

Pay to play.

[Big Cat]

It is pay to play. We. So we got nominated for gold Golden Globe, and then they were like, hey, if you want to potentially win a Golden Globe, you got to do all these things.

[Hank]

We got nominated for finalist.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then you had to pay and submit the paperwork. Was the part to Be made the final finalists. Like, we might not even made it onto the award show part.

[Big Cat]

They could tell us that we're up for a Nobel Peace Prize, and if we have to, like, fill out one piece of paper, we're out.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, we're not doing it. I don't know if you guys know this about the podcast, but pigs punishment coming soon. Yeah, we. We tend to push things off.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And if we're gonna have to submit any sort of, like, formal. If we have to send an email, I think. You know what? If we have to send one email, I think we could do that. If it's just, like, we accept.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

The nomination.

[Big Cat]

I don't even know if we do that. Maybe we don't give emails all the time.

[Hank]

Give us ownership to a team, and we wouldn't even take it if we had to do pay.

[Big Cat]

We lost the rings.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true.

[Big Cat]

Our championship rings.

[PFT Commenter]

We. They did also invite us out there for the awards, and we were like, no, no, that's okay.

[Big Cat]

This is. This is, I think, the positive for us in terms of who we are as podcasters and what this show is built on, because podcasting have become a little bit mainstream.

[Hank]

I was gonna say, not to diminish the Golden Globes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It's crazy for our profession, but it's a joke.

[Big Cat]

No, it's a joke. It's a joke. Listen, we. We're. We're jokes. This is a joke. This whole thing is a joke. What we're doing right now is a fucking joke. We get paid to talk onto a mic, and we have no ex, like, formal training or anything. We're just. We're idiots in front of mics, and hopefully we're a little entertaining. The fact they're giving Golden Globes for this is a joke. It's basically all the people in Hollywood who got into podcasting that just want to suck each other off and be like, oh, podcasting is a real thing now. Look, it's got the Golden Globes. We're out.

[PFT Commenter]

The fact that they. They would have wanted us to, like, buy a tuxedo.

[Hank]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

And wear it to a theater so that Snoop Dogg could hand us a golden trophy for.

[Max]

That would have been sick.

[PFT Commenter]

No, for podcasting is.

[Hank]

We wouldn't have lost.

[Big Cat]

We're losing. What? I know that point of podcasting is.

[Max]

But let's not say that that wouldn't be sick.

[Big Cat]

No, it would not be.

[Hank]

It's like. It's like how you can pay for a sports.

[Big Cat]

I mean, yeah.

[Hank]

Like, we could have 17 Emmys in the studio.

[Big Cat]

Well, we did, but we bought it. They would mean nothing. We got nothing. But that's good. No, we had to fill out the paperwork work, and it tanks fault. No, Matt, it's memes.

[PFT Commenter]

The.

[Big Cat]

Okay, do you understand that the fact that, like, podcasting is becoming this mainstream podcasting should be a joke? It should be, like, dudes, girls, whatever, hanging out and bullshitting the minute you just make it all formal in this. It's a joke. It's stupid.

[Shane]

It's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's literally the least glamorous profession you can have.

[Big Cat]

Have and barrier of entry. And now all the. The Amy Poehlers of the world are taking it over.

[PFT Commenter]

There's way too many people at this awards ceremony that have way too much sex for it to be actually a podcast or event.

[Big Cat]

That's not what podcasting's supposed to be. Podcasting is supposed to be dudes that don't. But they like to talk about football.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What are you gonna say, Zach?

[Zach]

Outside of the establishment aspect suits and Snoop Dogg kind of sick.

[Big Cat]

Dude. You got to stand next to Freddie Gibbs the other day.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He was on the other side of the rope, and we couldn't talk to him, but you got to see him, Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what that room's full of?

[Zach]

What's up, pd?

[PFT Commenter]

Big intercourse guys.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's too much intercourse.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, the biggest intercourse guys in the world.

[Zach]

Those guys are. Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Sometimes not even the right things. We're out. Don't even nominate us. Unless you want to nominate us and give us the award without us having to do any paperwork. Then we will send Zach in a tuxedo, and he'll have intercourse. He will fuck your hottest models. We will offer you that. We're giving you 24 hours to respond. Golden Globes. You want us to be there? We'll send Zach. He fucks the models, he gets the Golden Globe. We handshake right now. We call it a deal.

[Max]

We could have been boys with Chalamet.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, is he there?

[Big Cat]

I like shallow cool as, but he.

[PFT Commenter]

Shouldn'T have a podcast.

[Big Cat]

Chalamet shouldn't be in a room where they're giving awards for podcasts.

[PFT Commenter]

Chalamet. We should.

[Big Cat]

He's too cool for that.

[PFT Commenter]

He should not want us.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. In his room, like, Chalamet sitting there being like, hey, guys, here's the number one podcast of the year. And also, how do they decide this? Because they fill out the fucking paperwork. This is stupid. You agree, right, Hank? Yeah. Should have walked out. He's like, I'm Timothy Chalamet, do you think that Jack Nicholson would have sat in a room where they give off a podcast award?

[PFT Commenter]

No. For the tennis podcast?

[Hank]

No.

[Max]

Tennis podcast was not nominated, George.

[PFT Commenter]

That's, that's, that's how I know.

[Big Cat]

That's how we know we go where the tennis podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

If they were nominated. Yeah, we'd show up. We'd show up. That, that, that's, that's a, another point in our crown.

[Big Cat]

You know. What's my Golden Globe? Danny Boy Kane saying that we're a top notch organization. That's my Golden Globe. That's all I need. But we will do this exact sex thing if they want us to get into the Hollywood thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you just point and Zach will bone that person.

[Big Cat]

Dude, what if we make Zach a Hollywood plant? That'd be sick.

[Zach]

Industry sex plant.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Industry sex plant.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

That'd be so sick. Okay, good.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's back?

[Big Cat]

Good. Who's back? Sorry for the ranting. My.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's back of the week is the laundry thief.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So on Thursday night, we wrap up the show, we go home. I got home at probably 11:30 at night. You may remember about this time last year, maybe this exact time last year. I'll have to look it up. All my laundry got stolen off my front step app. And it's not that I don't do laundry. I do laundry. But during playoff season, at the end of NFL season, we're at the office a lot. So when I get home, just pretty much go to bed, wake up, come back to the office. So that time of year, I, I send some laundry away. Last year, I had two duffel bags, my laundry stolen off my front porch. What?

[Big Cat]

You make it sound like they're going upstate for 20 years for B E. No, I'm just saying send my laundry away.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I send it out, like for somebody else to do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I got Summer, the kids aren't.

[Big Cat]

In school.

[PFT Commenter]

So I got, I got, I got back home on Thursday night at about 11:30. I had a notification on my phone. The laundry was dropped off at about 9:30, 9:45. I, I go to my front door. I open it up. There's no duffel bags there. There's no laundry outside. I pull up the security app, I look at the, the surveillance footage. It has a screenshot of a guy that appears to have two bags of laundry scurrying away from my front porch. So I'm like, okay, I'm. I step back outside onto the porch. I look down the street. I don't know why I'm looking down the street, like, maybe the guy's there, maybe just stole it. I don't know. But about halfway down the block, I see these two bags in one of my neighbor's front yard. I go up to the bags. Sure enough, it's my laundry. They've been opened. Somebody stole my laundry, ran down the street, looked inside, saw my clothes, and was like this. And threw the bags to the side, which, hey, I'm happy I got my. My clothes back. But it was a real gut check moment for me. Real look in the mirror.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To be like, my clothes are so hideous that not even a thief wants to steal them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which maybe I've hacked. Hacked, you know, safety, maybe. Yeah, maybe I've hacked, like, taking care of my valuable things. There were a lot of jumpsuits in it, too. There were a lot of weird jumpsuits. My laundry is not everybody's laundry. I'm glad I got it back. But it was still. It was a humbling moment to walk back into my house with my unstealable bags of laundry.

[Big Cat]

That was nice to them. You know what? Maybe they were just like, hey, this guy's got so much swag, I can't pull it off.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Maybe he was intimidated. Maybe it was like, yeah, I can't.

[Big Cat]

I can't wear this shirt with. With all of the NFL team's logos stitched onto it.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't wear this tracksuit that has maybe thought it was like, I. I.

[Hank]

Can'T do this for the kids.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, you made that same joke last year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, it still plays.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on, buddy. That's why we're not getting Golden Globes. We're rehashing material.

[Big Cat]

Hank.

[Hank]

You literally did the same thing with the lighthouse, like, 20 minutes ago.

[PFT Commenter]

I. Well, I got re. Pissed off. Not the Lighthouse.

[Big Cat]

Play the hit. Hits.

[PFT Commenter]

I got re. Pissed.

[Big Cat]

Play the hits. Okay, by who's back of the week is this is going to be niche college basketball because Wisconsin beat Michigan on Saturday, and Michigan was undefeated, number two in the country, and seemingly the best team by far, and it was awesome. So I'm. I mean, I always watch college basketball. I love watching college basketball, but it was a very, very fun win. And also Alex Bregman because he's a of cup club for five years, which is sick.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I did like how Wisconsin told Bill Raftery onions after the game. That was pretty cool. It was a great ending to the game. It was like edge of your seat stuff. It was a good college basketball game. I. I typically don't pay much attention at all to college basketball until the NFL season's over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Then I do a crash course on it. But on the weekends, I watch a few games, and this was. That was a good win for. For the bad.

[Big Cat]

It was crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

And it might. I don't know. You think it's gonna be enough to, like, if they end up with a decent record, that's a crown jewel win.

[Big Cat]

If they had not won this game, I would have said that it was going to be very hard for them to make the tournament because they did not have. They've. They've struggled early in the season. Lost to Villanova, didn't do great, like, got killed by byu. But this is a big one, so if they can win the games they're supposed to win and maybe pick up one or two more of these, you know, hey, we were underdogs, and it's a ranked team. They'd be in the. I just want to be in the tournament. Tournament. Just not being in the tournament is the worst.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's get to the dance.

[Big Cat]

And Bregman to the Cubs. Awesome. I wanted. I wanted Ricketts to make a move like this for a long time, and he finally did, and now I feel very confident. Like, they added Cabrera, they added Bregman. There. There may be. Basically where I'm at with the Cubs is I think that they're getting good enough to potentially win two games against the Dodgers in the nlc. Okay. And that would be awesome. That'd be massive, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. If you can win two games against the Dodgers in the nlc, then you're playing October baseball.

[Big Cat]

That's deep. October baseball.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably get it like a Thursday night. That'd be sick.

[Big Cat]

That. So sick.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So, yeah, two. Two wins against the Dodger. I mean, the Dodgers are so good, but I'm happy they're trying.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's.

[Big Cat]

It's fun. And Bregman's the man.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you think about that, Hank?

[Hank]

I mean, the Red Sox ownership's a joke.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We said this. Yeah. But. Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They just don't care, right?

[Hank]

They don't care.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

They're not. They're not trying to win. They're just trying to maximize profits.

[Max]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That's sad. They thought they were gonna get him. I saw a report. I think it was. It was a buster. Only said they're very disappointed. They thought that they had a shot.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

They're offering them, like, 3 million less a year or something, and. But, like, they. They can afford them. They just chose not to get them.

[Big Cat]

Bregman will come hang out at the office. Yeah, he's a man. I'm in a fantasy league with him.

[PFT Commenter]

Recurring guest.

[Big Cat]

Recurring guest. Yeah, he'll come hang. I shouldn't have grabbed Pete Crow Armstrong that hard. Also RIP Bob Weir. Love Bob Weir. Passed away on Saturday. It was crazy. It was like three minutes before we went to our seats. And yeah, I. I have very Grateful Dead is my favorite band. He's given me a lifetime of great moments. Seen him live countless times. Whether it be Dead in Company or Rat Dog, I'm sad about it. So shout out Bob Weir. Thank you for everything. Music never stops. Zach, finish us off.

[Zach]

My who's back of the week. Maybe a little specific. It's gonna be good omens, boys. Oh, specifically NBA centric good omens. New York Knicks before yesterday. One in five, Last five games.

[Big Cat]

The.

[Zach]

Omen pops up in the flesh.

[Big Cat]

Wait, is anyone. Is anyone listening to Zach except me?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm here.

[Max]

One in five in the last five games.

[Zach]

Yeah, one win out of the last five games. Okay, I may have said that incorrectly.

[Big Cat]

Grammatical error games.

[Max]

Yeah, I was letting you cook.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's all right. My bad.

[Zach]

No, all good. I should have said it the right way. I said the complete wrong.

[Big Cat]

I didn't mean to step on you. I just was confused. One in five in the last five games is like. That's six games.

[Zach]

No, that's super valid. I shouldn't have spun you for a confusion.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's start again.

[Zach]

But good Omen wants to Omen showed up in the flesh. There was a double Knick fan Spike Lee sighting yesterday. Now undefeated.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So post omen, Knicks don't lose. You saw Spike Lee saw in the flesh.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Confirmed he's real. That's good for the team. We're going to just path to victory.

[Big Cat]

Were you nervous that he was not real?

[Zach]

I never. You know. You don't know anything. You don't know if it's true until you see it sometimes.

[Big Cat]

Are you. Oh, so you're one of those Dinosaurs aren't real because we never saw him.

[Zach]

I'm just the way dinosaurs are.

[Big Cat]

Milton Bradley or Carl Everett. Yeah, Carl Everett. Yeah.

[Zach]

I think with the dinosaur bones we assume their alignment. So I think the dinosaurs that we. How we know them are not real.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[Zach]

They're. They're a different variant.

[PFT Commenter]

Are they like feathers?

[Zach]

I'm pretty. I'm pretty sure. Like we decide where all the bones went. So we like made up what they look like.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so that's true.

[Hank]

No, that's actually 100%.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you mean, like, wait, you find the bones, you decide how to put them together?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Like, we just assumed how the skeletons go together once the architect. Not architect. Archaeologist.

[Big Cat]

Archaeological archaeologist.

[Zach]

Archaeologists dug them out the ground. So they might not look anything like what we think they look like.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Like, don't you think they. I guess. I guess.

[Zach]

I think. I think I saw that on like a pretty. Yeah, pretty decent. Like, I was thinking History channel.

[Big Cat]

Oh, History channel. Okay. But wouldn't that would. Don't the bones, like, make. We know how bones work. We know how our bones work. If you see a bunch of dinosaur bones, wouldn't they be able to somewhat figure out.

[Zach]

That's what I'm saying. I think we have, like. I think we're guessing a lot on where things. And like, maybe also making up some bones or joints to complete a picture. We don't actually know what may look like.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And have you ever thought about how, like, we'd have all the bones, but when you see pictures of dinosaurs, like, nobody knows what the outside of their skin looked like?

[Zach]

Like, definitely.

[Big Cat]

Like, what if they're all furry?

[PFT Commenter]

What color were they? Yeah, what if they had hair?

[Big Cat]

What if they're all rug?

[Zach]

Oh, you think T Rex's arms? They're that big and the arms are really this tiny.

[Big Cat]

What if their ar. What if their bodies were made out.

[Zach]

Of pillows or super amount of feathers? It could be the case.

[Big Cat]

What if they were wearing guardian caps?

[Zach]

Then that's smart brain management.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So the. The Knicks are now one and zero in their last two games. After you met Spike Lee.

[Zach]

They're one and. Oh, through one post. Spike.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. You know, Spike Lee is the number one desired white whale guest a part of my take, per Rico Bosco. Yeah, that's his. That's his top selection for.

[Big Cat]

They're two and five in the last five.

[Zach]

Two, two and five in the last five. No, they're not two and five in the last five dot that was where.

[Big Cat]

We got two out of five.

[Zach]

They're two out of two of the last two of the last six confirmed wins.

[Big Cat]

Got it. Confirmed. So they're two and four.

[Zach]

It would be.

[Big Cat]

Are they two and four in their last six or are they two and six in their last eight in the previous.

[Zach]

Bad math. They were two and six, but they.

[Big Cat]

Were two and six in their last.

[Zach]

No, no, two in the previous. Miscorrected way to say it. Two and six. But it's actually. We've won two of the last six games.

[Big Cat]

Got it. So you're two and four post omen.

[Max]

We're up. There's too many numbers. Four numbers.

[PFT Commenter]

You're two and four in your last five.

[Zach]

We're up.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

Confirmed.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

There's a path to victory.

[PFT Commenter]

It's very funny seeing Spike Lee rocking the Jordan brand.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, memes. Can you imagine being like 60 years old? You're wearing, like, TB12 merch.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's kind of crazy.

[Big Cat]

Do people do that?

[PFT Commenter]

No. I'm so like, Spike Lee wearing Jordan, like the Jordan logo.

[Zach]

Well, he's a. I think he's a Jordan athlete because he's got the Spizzike. So he's got his own model.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Which is crazy. Like how Jordan just stole all the, the hopes, dreams, and, you know, chance of, of being a champion from Spike lee in the 90s. And I was like, yeah, I'll put you on. I'll put you right over my heart, Jordan.

[Big Cat]

Good show, boys.

[Zach]

Great show.

[Big Cat]

We got more playoff football. We're gonna re. We're gonna, we're gonna talk about it all week. Monday Night Football. Official, official prediction for tomorrow night, I think.

[PFT Commenter]

Steelers 17, Texans 13.

[Big Cat]

I think it's going to be Texans 21, Steelers 17. I think the Texans, unfortunately, are gonna win. Texans 24. Nothing. What?

[Hank]

Steelers 3, Texans 0.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, memes.

[Big Cat]

What's up?

[PFT Commenter]

One more question. How do you feel about the jets draft choice after Friday night's game?

[Big Cat]

I think the media put a lot of pressure on that young man before the biggest game of his career. Who? Dante Moore. And pressure got to him. The guy didn't have to make a decision at any time. He didn't know what his decision was, but he's going to be good in the NFL and if he goes back to college, that would make a lot of sense. Sense. Are you. Were you a little upset online because everyone was making the same joke? Like, Dante Moore is perfect for the Jets. No. I mean, that's just low hanging fruit. Yeah. Jets are the most popular team and it's wild card weekend.

[Max]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Everyone's talking about the Jets 3 and 14 jets, and they're just. And they're owning the media. Adam's talking about them. Aaron Rodgers won't stop talking about them. I get it.

[PFT Commenter]

It's. They've been the top of my head.

[Big Cat]

That was funny when Aaron Rodgers was like, yeah, there's no leaks and there's, there's no outside noise. When he went on McAfee every single week. Every week. And the one, the one year he does do it, it's when he's on the Steelers. Yeah, well, they run well that and he's texting that actually is now that proceeding you that is correct. That that goes against the the jets as an organization. Him not doing it on the Steelers shows the Steelers are like, yeah, we're not letting you do this. We. We're playing. We're going to play football. Whereas the jets are like, oh, yeah, do whatever you want. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you have a wish list of players that we can bring in for you? Sure, we'll do that. Steelers didn't do that.

[Big Cat]

Which was never happened.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it didn't. I think list happened. Memes.

[Big Cat]

Are you sure did happen. That's what Racini told us.

[Max]

Wrong.

[Big Cat]

Wrong scene. Okay. Wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, what's the right scene?

[Big Cat]

Wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you're calling her Diana. Wrong.

[Big Cat]

Diana. Wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that's good. I. Yeah, you know, you got to take your hat off. That's good.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Thank you. Okay. Good show, boys. Numbers 302.

[PFT Commenter]

11.

[Big Cat]

I'll go 13. Keen. My man. Keenan Allen.

[Shane]

10, 32, 66, 7.

[Big Cat]

99. Po. I'm gonna get my number. Shane. 45. 45.

[PFT Commenter]

Happy birthday to Jeff Bezos and Zach de la Rocca.

[Big Cat]

Love you guys. Sam. Sa.