SVP Talking Terps & Tournament, Russ Wilson and Jameis On The Giants, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Listener Submitted Guys On Chicks

Summary

Pardon My Take - Episode Summary Release Date: March 26, 2025
Episode Title: SVP Talking Terps & Tournament, Russ Wilson and Jameis On The Giants, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Listener Submitted Guys On Chicks

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1. Maryland Terrapins and the Sweet Sixteen with Scott Van Pelt

[00:25]
Big Cat introduces the episode's primary topics, highlighting a conversation with Scott Van Pelt about the Maryland Terrapins (Terps) advancing to the Sweet Sixteen in the NCAA tournament. This marks a significant return for Maryland basketball, stirring excitement among fans.

[80:54] - Scott Van Pelt's Insights
PFT Commenter welcomes Scott Van Pelt, congratulating him on Maryland's performance. Scott shares his emotional journey as a passionate Maryland basketball fan, detailing how the team's success has deeply resonated with him and his family.

Scott Van Pelt: "I thought as I got older I'd grow away from this. That's not been the case. I really, really like Maryland basketball. This team's been fun."

Scott emphasizes the emotional rollercoaster of watching Maryland’s games, especially their dramatic victories and the resilience shown by players like Derek Queen. He also touches on the challenges faced by the team, including potential coaching changes and the dynamic nature of college basketball.

2. College Basketball Tournament Discussion

[03:35]
The hosts delve into the broader landscape of the NCAA tournament, discussing concerns about the impact of Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) and the transfer portal on the competitiveness and unpredictability traditionally associated with March Madness.

[12:09] - Tournament Clarity and Viewership
Big Cat expresses cautious optimism about maintaining the tournament's excitement, noting that while recent years have lacked Cinderella stories, current viewership remains strong.

Big Cat: "I want to see more of a sample size before I say that all Cinderellas will never have a chance again."

[14:13] - Arkansas as a Cinderella Team
The conversation shifts to Arkansas's role as a potential Cinderella team under Coach Cal, acknowledging their rich basketball tradition despite their strong football presence.

3. NFL Player Movements: Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson to the Giants

[20:21] - Jameis Winston's Potential Role
Hank discusses the New York Giants' quarterback situation, contemplating whether Jameis Winston will secure the QB1 position or if the Giants will continue to explore other options.

[26:00] - Russell Wilson Joins the Giants
Big Cat announces Russell Wilson's signing with the Giants, sparking debate about how Wilson's playing style will mesh with the team's dynamics compared to Winston.

Big Cat: "Russell Wilson does not have a high ceiling. He has a higher floor, but he doesn't take risks."

[27:14] - Hank's Take on the Giants' Quarterback Room
Hank critiques the Giants' quarterback room, suggesting instability with multiple QBs and implying potential managerial issues with Head Coach Brian Daboll.

Hank: "If those three guys are your plan, it's a pre-fired head coach 100."

4. Other Sports Highlights: NHL and NBA

[19:48] - NHL Drama with Islanders' Controversial Call
The hosts discuss a contentious NHL game where a questionable goalie interference call impacted the Islanders' playoff chances, highlighting frustrations with officiating.

Unknown: "It was probably the worst call in NHL history."

[32:29] - NBA Playoffs and Player Performances
Brief discussions cover standout NBA performances, including Cam Moore's impressive throws and Alex Restrepo's pro day challenges, underscoring the unpredictability and excitement of professional basketball.

5. Hot Seat/Cool Throne Segments: Viral Videos and Morning Routines

[50:49] - Steph Curry's Viral Full-Court Shot Video
Memes and Big Cat analyze a viral Steph Curry video, debating its authenticity and Curry's shooting prowess.

Memes: "It looked like LeBron's Powerade commercial from back in the day."

[60:12] - Ashton Hall's Viral Morning Routine
In the "Hot Seat/Cool Throne" segment, Memes discusses Ashton Hall's over-the-top morning routine video, critiquing its authenticity and entertainment value.

Big Cat: "He is super jacked. He has designer bags and bracelets to go to the gym."

[125:00] - Listener Submitted Questions on Pillow Positions
Listeners submit quirky questions about pillow arrangements and relationship dynamics, leading to humorous exchanges about sleep habits and personal boundaries.

Memes: "He says it's his way of showing love, but he's so much bigger than me."

6. Listener Submitted Guys On Chicks

[116:40] - Jesse James' Persistent Tweet About a 2017 Game
Big Cat highlights a listener's dedication to a specific claim that Jesse James caught a ball in a 2017 game, praising the listener's persistence.

Hank: "He deserves a shout out. That's insane. 2017 was that game."

[122:03] - Pillow Preferences and Relationship Habits
Memes shares listener stories about unusual pillow arrangements and unusual boyfriend behaviors, fostering lighthearted and relatable conversations.

Big Cat: "You got to have one to hug."

7. Concluding Thoughts and Final Bets

[43:45] - Tournament Betting Picks
The hosts collaboratively decide on their betting picks for the remaining tournament games, balancing optimism with strategic choices based on team performances.

Big Cat: "I like Duke, the way he played at the end of that game."

[117:37] - Scott Van Pelt on Maryland’s Tournament Prospects
Scott Van Pelt offers his perspective on Maryland's chances in the Sweet Sixteen, emphasizing the team's need for strategic plays and resilience.

Scott Van Pelt: "Maryland needs to play its best. The best be the best version of itself. And I think they can win the game."

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Notable Quotes

• Big Cat [00:25]: "This is a podcast that will without a doubt change your life for the better- guaranteed, or your money back."

• Hank [04:05]: "Tom Fridelli, our good friend, said that it's actually safer."

• PFT Commenter [83:10]: "I can't think of a reason why you would do that."

• Memes [43:45]: "Maryland plus six and a half."

• Scott Van Pelt [80:54]: "This team's been fun. They're playing fun basketball. But he threw it the way he wanted to, and he did it in a way that made it work."

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Conclusion

In this episode of "Pardon My Take," Big Cat and PFT Commenter navigate through a variety of sports topics, from college basketball's evolving landscape and the strategic moves of NFL quarterbacks to the lighter side of viral internet moments and listener interactions. Their engaging discussions, enriched with humor and candid opinions, provide listeners with a comprehensive overview of current sports narratives and personal anecdotes, making it a must-listen for enthusiasts seeking both information and entertainment.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

Yeah. Martin M. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

Post madness clarity.

[Big Cat]

Post madness clarity.

[Hank]

I feel like I'm on the right side of history with a hammock take. I went out, had a nice little sit on a hammock yesterday morning. Got some direct sunlight in my eyes, like you're supposed to start. That's my morning routine. Chill on the hammock. Get the UV rays. I did do some research, though, into how dangerous hammocks a lot of people die. I think that this is a product of the media. This is big mattress. This is big mattress trying to steer you away from hammocks.

[Memes]

They put out all this stuff relative to what?

[Hank]

Anytime somebody dies in a hammock, it becomes a big news story, like a shark attack. Hammocks are more afraid of you than you are them.

[Big Cat]

Tom Fridelli, our good friend, said that it's actually safer. Less. Less people die from bear attacks than sleeping on hammocks in a year. So it's less. It's actually safer to sleep on a bear than sleeping on a hammock.

[Hank]

My take is that some of us aren't. And it's extreme sports. It's like extreme sleeping.

[Big Cat]

Listen, I said it. What? I said it. The. The. I knew it was a controversial take. I wish I could be a dainty little boy like you and be able to get into a hammock. I wish.

[Hank]

I wish you had a modicum of coordination where you could sit down and stand.

[Memes]

More people die from obesity every year than sitting in a hammer. So maybe so fat that you can get in one and you'd be fine.

[Big Cat]

Good point. Also, you were so wrong on all your furniture takes, but that's fine.

[Memes]

No, I mean, that's your. Your spin. Zoning. This is classic Big Cat 101.

[Big Cat]

No, it's not.

[Memes]

I did get people mad, and I think my words were Again, misconstrued by Big Cat about outdoor furniture. I had. My dad was very mad at me. I had a few people reach.

[Big Cat]

So this is my fault.

[Memes]

Yeah, kind of.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Memes]

I like outdoor furniture. I do. I just love hammocks.

[Hank]

Yeah, hammocks are great.

[Unknown]

You said that you don't like outdoor.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you said it multiple times. And he also didn't understand how it works.

[Memes]

No, that's.

[Hank]

You're getting Big Cat 101 to get hanged.

[Memes]

I know.

[Hank]

The argument was about hammocks. He's moved it to.

[Big Cat]

Now.

[Hank]

You're wrong about.

[Big Cat]

Also the original, which you are.

[Hank]

Hank is wrong about outdoor furniture, but you're also correct about hammocks.

[Big Cat]

The original argument was just, hammocks are overrated, which I stand by. I think they are overrated. I think they. They. They're rated in a way that is like, they're the peak of comfort. I don't see that.

[Hank]

I did go deep into hammock Twitter and hammock Internet yesterday, and there are a lot of hammock message boards, and people just, like, rate my hammock setup. I've been sleeping in a hammock for five years now. I'm trying to get my girlfriend to sleep in a hammock, too. Any recommendations for how I can get her to.

[Big Cat]

That's kind of weird.

[Hank]

Yeah, there's a lot of weirdos out there.

[Big Cat]

All right, so outside of that, some of the. Some of the stories we miss. Well, we should update. We have more drama from Yukon because the. After their loss to Florida and. And Danny Hurley yelling about the refs, it turns out that the SID for UConn told the reporter who took that video, I will ruin your life if you don't delete it. And he did that in front of a bunch of journalists. Bad move.

[Hank]

Bad move. Did he include them on a. On a group text?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Hank]

But here's the thing. Dan Hurley. I'm fine with Dan Hurley. Because if you have a problem with Dan Hurley, then you have a problem with college basketball and winning. Because if you go back throughout the years, you've got great coaches who are always. They. They're on that line. They can be kind of sometimes, especially if they lose, he wins. He can be intense. He can be an asshole. That's who he is. Good for the sport. Also, the SID probably shouldn't threaten somebody's career for taking a video in a public place.

[Big Cat]

That's. The SID fell into the trap where it's like, you're not that guy, bro. Like, Dan Hurley doing that, I kind of find it would be kind of funny.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The SID is trying to basically become a duplicate of Dan Hurley. You can't. You actually have to be the opposite of Dan Hurley and be overly nice to people and clean up, you know, you know, him yelling. Not just go even more Dan Hurley and be like, I'm going to ruin your life.

[Hank]

You got to go good cop, bad cop.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Hank]

Your job is just to be the most likable person ever. Even if you don't like the journalist, you got to be like, hey, I know you're a great guy. My job could be in trouble if that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Would you mind taking that?

[Big Cat]

Listen, you want some front row seats, you know, you want to get Rico Bosco's phone number? I. So, yeah, the Dan Hurley thing, because there was a lot of people crashing out about this on both sides, and I, I, I. Not shocking. I agreed with our original take that we don't care. I especially don't understand. So fans are one thing. If you hate UConn. Yes. You're going to say Dan Hurley's a baby and pick at that point because they've won. Especially if you're a Big east team. No problem with that. You can be like, I don't like Dan Hurley. That's fine with me. That's. That's part of sports. That's what makes it fun. Fans of UConn, you got to defend your guy. So those two sides, like, great, great spot. I don't understand when media people are mad about Dan Hurley winning and losing the right way. When it's like, he makes sports more interesting. That's been our original point. If your job is to talk about sports, I want more Dan Hurley's. I don't want people giving cliche answers. I want more Mick Cronin's. I want guys who have, you know, good or bad, like some type of personality that is not just, you know, we're going to do our best out there. We're going to try our best, and if we don't win, we're going to, we're going to shake their hands and, and go on to the next one.

[Hank]

Bobby Knight. Bobby Knight was an. He was also a great coach.

[Big Cat]

Jim Boeheim.

[Hank]

Jim Boeheim. Dickhead. Also great coach. I, I think Dan Hurley, if you look at, like the last year of Dan Hurley through the last tournament, he was the story. He, he gave people in the media a lot of stuff to talk about when he was deciding if he's going to be the Coach of the Lakers or whatever that whole span. Yeah, he was leading all the news broadcasts. He was leading every single sports show in America. What will Dan Hurley do? He makes your job so much easier right here in the media. You should want guys like this around. I think that Dan Hurley goes over the line, but that's why you have an SID to pull that back and to apologize and say I'm not. To draw more attention to it and be like, fuck you.

[Big Cat]

Right. There also was, like this idea that Dan Hurley has because he won, he is now acting more bombastic. That's just someone who doesn't know that Dan Hurley's been this guy for the.

[Hank]

Whole time he was a high school coach and doing this.

[Big Cat]

He was screaming at people at Bryant or no, Wagner at Rhode island, like, this is who he is and that's why he's good at his job. But he plays on that edge.

[Hank]

To reiterate what you said, if you're a fan of, Of a competing team.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, this is.

[Hank]

You should hate Dan Hurley. Like, yes, he's a prick. Look out at how he's treating everybody. Lean all the way into that saying.

[Big Cat]

He'S a. I'm not going to disagree with. Yeah, saying he's like, bad for the sport. That's just stupid because, like, the, the sportsmanship stops at Little League. That's really what it is. Like when people are like, oh, you got to win class. You got to do that. That is not for high level college basketball, high level pro sports. I don't care. I want bad losers. I want people who are. Who crash out when they lose.

[Hank]

Show me a good loser. I'll show you a loser.

[Big Cat]

You know what I mean?

[Hank]

But that's the thing. Like, guys like me and Big Cat are, are good losers. And there's a reason why we've never won a championship.

[Big Cat]

I'm a bad loser and I, I still haven't won a championship. But this is. And then I did see Jay Billis, our, our good friend, great friend, agree to disagree with him on many things. Said that. I think he said on the Dan Patrick show that, that Coach K never like, was a bad loser. Like this. This is. This was. I. I got this a few times. Being like, you would have criticized Coach K for this. There's a difference between Dan Hurley and Coach K. And that in. Coach K would never do this publicly because Coach K pretended this, this sheen of I am the classiest guy in the world. Coach K was also a psycho. Addicting to. Addicted to winning. That's probably why he's the best coach of all time in college basketball. Yeah, I said that. And that's also why I hated him, because I knew deep down he was Dan Hurley. He just did it in a different way. And he, he. He had the media all sucking him off and being like, man, he's so classy. When he, When Coach K goes to Dylan Brooks in a, in a handshake line and says, you're better than that, that's him very upset.

[Hank]

When Coach K goes into an opposing team's locker room after a game to talk to the players. Yes, that is being such a good loser that you are the worst loser.

[Big Cat]

Yes, that is. That is him as. As upset and as bad of a loser as possible. It just looks different. And he does it in a way where then he gets in front of everyone, says, I've just, you know, that was a moment where I had to teach the other kids. Dan Hurley just does it in a bombastic way. And he wears it all on his sleeve. He. He is, he is all heart. Like, I'm just going to yell and scream and do all these things.

[Hank]

And if you're saying that this is ruining college basketball and we did. There's been a lot of hand wringing. I think we took part in, in a little bit of hand wringing on Monday. Talking about. Is Nil ruining the tournament from the Cinderella aspect? The rating just came out. Big cat.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

And the best viewership since 1993.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Hank]

Averaging 9.4 million viewers throughout the second round.

[Big Cat]

I want to. I said it on Sunday. I would like to see more of a sample size before I say that all Cinderella's. Cinderellas will never have a chance again.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I know that this tournament has not had Cinderella's, but we've had in, you know, obviously Nil's very new. But you know, last year, Jack Colke beating Kentucky. The Nil era was going on then. So I, I want to see it a couple more years before I say that college basketball is dead. And I, you know. Yeah. Would you like more. You know, games are a little bit closer, of course, but I think we're gonna get some good games on Sweet 16 weekend.

[Hank]

Yeah. So Sunday in particular was up 13%. So people are still watching.

[Big Cat]

Stan Hurley effect.

[Hank]

Dan Hurley also maybe Duke, Duke. Baylor was a big one. Kentucky being in Kentucky.

[Big Cat]

Illinois. Yeah.

[Hank]

Kentucky. Tennessee is going to be a huge brands.

[Big Cat]

Yes, it is Funny you mentioned it, but on Sunday, Arkansas is the last Cinderella.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Coach Cal.

[Hank]

Crazy, right?

[Big Cat]

Coach Cal is probably. It's. Yeah. Oh, by the way, hand up, Arkansas is a basketball school. Had a lot of people ask, say that, that we got that one wrong. I think that's fair. They say, obviously they care a lot about football, but they have more tradition in basketball and they throw a lot of money at basketball. So my bad. Arkansas fans.

[Hank]

I think that if Arkansas, they want to be a football school, but I.

[Big Cat]

Think they're okay with being a basketball.

[Hank]

They're fine with being a basketball school. But if they got really fucking good at football.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

And they would just be like full sec.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What are you going to say?

[Unknown]

Stance on the Mormons.

[Hank]

What do you mean?

[PFT Commenter]

They're still Mormons.

[Hank]

They're Mormons.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

No, the Mormons. The Mormons were upset that they weren't on one side.

[Big Cat]

Okay. We had them rated correctly. Listen, I'm going to be a Mormon on Thursday because I'm rooting for them to beat Bama. I don't know what you want me to say. So, yeah, they're still Mormons. Unless they don't. I'll tell you what. If BYU fans, if you want to be put into a different category, you have to disavow Mormonism and then we'll.

[Hank]

Take you out because otherwise it's idolatry.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Hank]

Otherwise you're worshiping something besides the Lord.

[Big Cat]

So, yeah, you're still Mormons. Do you had Mormons getting mad at you, Max?

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah. Mormons are mad.

[Hank]

Well, it's actually a compliment. We're saying that you put your faith first.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Unknown]

Some of them were happy. They were like, oh, this must mean. This must mean that we're both football and basketball.

[Hank]

No, you're Mormon. Mormons. Yeah. You're 20, 27 years old and you're in school and you look great because you've never touched alcohol.

[Big Cat]

I'm starting to think.

[Hank]

I'm honestly envious of Mormons.

[Big Cat]

Are BYU fans not going to class? That was as straightforward as it could be. BYU Mormons. That's what you guys are. That's not good or bad. I will. Nothing. That's just. We're putting you in a camp.

[Hank]

Mormons in solidarity with Mormon people. I will live my life as a Mormon on Thursday if that's what it takes to have them beat Alabama.

[Big Cat]

I will.

[Unknown]

You know what?

[Big Cat]

That I will do it after 9:30.

[Hank]

I'm going to soak so hard.

[Big Cat]

No, you can't have. You can't have coffee.

[Hank]

I'm not going to have coffee. I'm not going to have.

[Big Cat]

I am.

[Hank]

I'm not going to Drink alcohol. I'm going to soak. What else?

[Big Cat]

You can't. You can't.

[Hank]

I'll get married twice, but you can't.

[Big Cat]

Be in a room with a woman. I don't think.

[Hank]

I think you can. We're just, we're just, we're digging ourselves.

[Big Cat]

Digging ourselves back into the Mormon hate.

[Unknown]

Even more angry.

[Big Cat]

But again, the point remains. We are rooting for you guys on, on Thursday.

[Hank]

I can't drink coffee, but I think I can do that thing where you go, you make your own drink out of like Dr. Pepper, heavy cream, coffee, creamer.

[Unknown]

The dirty sugar.

[Hank]

Yeah, I'll make my own dirty soda in a.

[Unknown]

We should, we should. We should do those for, for the game on Thursday.

[Hank]

It's just a hundred percent sugar.

[PFT Commenter]

Although.

[Unknown]

But it can't have caffeine. We have to get caffeine.

[Hank]

I think some can. I think I'll go diet Mormon. I think some are allowed to have caffeine.

[Big Cat]

It is kind of.

[Unknown]

I don't think any of them are.

[PFT Commenter]

I think. No, I think they're all caffeine free shows.

[Hank]

I think it depends on what the data guy does that whatever the Mormon of the month is that's running the religion at the time they get to dictate. Yeah. That's a severance recap.

[Big Cat]

Okay. By the way, opening day is Thursday and we're gonna have Jeff passing on Friday to talk baseball. Did you. We want to do quick who's going to win? Just predictions that we can not remember unless one of us gets it. How? We obviously do this every single year. I assume people are not new to PMT or listening right now, but we basically just say who's going to win it all? And then if one of us is even remotely close, we're like, hey, memes, can you get that clip for me? Yeah. And then everyone else just ignores whatever our bad predictions were.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

So yeah, that's. I'm gonna. My, my prediction is Dodgers win the World Series and they win 125 games.

[Hank]

Yeah, I mean that's.

[Big Cat]

You like that?

[Hank]

Their roster is incredible.

[Big Cat]

You like that?

[Memes]

I think it's going to be pods. Red Sox. I'm excited for Alex Bregman.

[Big Cat]

Padres, Red Sox. Okay.

[Memes]

Probably the most excited who's gonna winx season I've been in in years.

[Hank]

Socks.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Okay. I'm gonna. I mean, I want to take the Dodgers too. It's very chalky. But if you look at.

[Big Cat]

You can't copy me.

[Hank]

But you, you just, you purposely said it first. That nobody else are going to win the World Series. That's just it. That's it. Fast forward to October. Congrats to the Dodgers. You won again. Magic Johnson, one of the best owners in sports. I'm going to say Dodgers in five games over is very important. They're going to beat the Red Sox.

[Big Cat]

I guess I didn't say an AL Team. I'm g. Say Dodgers over Rangers classic and Dodgers win 125. Actually, no doubt is over Phillies.

[Hank]

Well, Hank doesn't respect show him. That's clear.

[Unknown]

Phillies are. They're. Both of those teams are.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Phillies. Yeah. Dodgers over Rangers. What? I said Dodgers over Phillies. The nlcs.

[Unknown]

There you go.

[Big Cat]

Dodgers over Rangers in the. In the World Series.

[Hank]

I think the Washington Nationals are going to sneaky compete for a wild card spot. Ooh, that's my. That's my wild prediction. They won't. They won't be out of it in September.

[Big Cat]

The NL is pretty loaded.

[Unknown]

N. Natur. Nats are going to be good, though.

[Hank]

Good young guys.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay, what's your prediction, Max?

[Unknown]

I'm going to go Phillies over the A's.

[Big Cat]

Oh, good. I know. Which will be so disappointing that it happens in.

[Unknown]

There's no chance. But. But it's fun.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's fun.

[Big Cat]

It is fun. That was very fun.

[Hank]

Memes. Who you got?

[Unknown]

Mets over the Tigers.

[Memes]

Whoa.

[Hank]

What do you mean W. Tigers? Yeah, I see the Tigers.

[Big Cat]

Scubal. Scubal. Cy Young. Praise Google.

[Hank]

You pumped about Soto?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Fired up Memes. What happened with the Islanders last night? It was. I saw you tweet about it. I really wanted to have access to the. Pardon my take Twitter in that moment to tweet some memes about you.

[Unknown]

It was probably the worst call in NHL history. Oh, they called goalie interference even though the goalie re established himself. Islander scored with nine seconds left. Would got two points over the Columbus Blue Jackets. Both fighting for a wild card spot to play the Capitals. And we got absolutely hoes end up losing in a shootout and lost one point.

[Hank]

I was heartbroken. Memes.

[Big Cat]

I'm heartbroken just listening to that.

[Hank]

I saw the. I saw the replay. It didn't even look like he was in the crease. His body might have been in the crease, but his skates looked like they were outside. Right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

I mean, he. He was in for a second, but the goalie was able to re. Establish. Re establish himself. It just didn't make any sense.

[Big Cat]

Brutal. So now are you guys. You guys are fighting for the last playoff spot?

[Unknown]

Yeah, we're fighting.

[Big Cat]

Fighting hard.

[Unknown]

Fighting real Hard.

[Big Cat]

I can't wait for playoffs.

[Hank]

Me too.

[Big Cat]

Very excited.

[Memes]

If you agree with Big Cat and PFT about the Dodgers, you could bet any or most regular season wins by any team over 106 and a half for plus 150.

[Hank]

I think they'll get there. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's basically. It's kind of a gut check, heart check, Dodgers. You want it. You want it enough. You have the talent. You want it enough. Go get it. Okay, so we did miss Jameis to the Giants. That rocks. I don't know if he will be QB1.

[Hank]

I think they're still shopping. I think they're still shopping and looking around. If they draft a quarterback, then I think Jameis would probably be QB1 going into the season.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

We got to figure out what we're doing with the song.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

James, I. I have two options that I've thought about.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston and Hoboken.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston down in Soho.

[Big Cat]

Soho flows a little bit better, but.

[Hank]

They play in Jersey. I know they practice in Jersey. This is big.

[Big Cat]

What about Sopranos.

[Memes]

Down in the Meadowlands?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There you go.

[Hank]

Jameis Winston in the meadow lands. I don't know. I like where your head's at.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

No. Wrong answer. We'll. We'll think about it.

[Big Cat]

Mall of America. No. Or what is it called? What's that mall?

[Hank]

Oh, the one that has, like, the water slides and the ski thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Right across from the.

[Memes]

From the stadium, isn't it? Mall of America?

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Minneapolis.

[Big Cat]

I don't know what it is. Oh, American dream.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

American tree. That ball's crazy. So, yeah, it looks like right now we have musical chairs going on. Aaron Rodgers spent Friday at the Pittsburgh facility. He is going to also go visit the Giants. There was a report out there which is very funny, that Aaron Rodgers. I think Albert Breer had this. He. He said that. I've heard Rogers is looking for a culture such as the one in Green Bay.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Which is so funny. Spends two years with the jets, and he immediately is like, damn, I didn't know what I had.

[Hank]

He's looking for Green Bay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He. He wants to go. He's like, I up.

[Big Cat]

I want to go. Yeah. I want. Take me back, please.

[Hank]

Yeah. There's no other culture like Green Bay in the NFL.

[Big Cat]

Steelers would be. Would be closest in terms of, like, you know, consistently in the picture. Long time, you know, history, all that stuff.

[Hank]

I. I tweeted this out on Friday, but I firmly believe it. This is a good Window into Aaron Rodgers and the kind of guy that he is.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He spent six hours. He took up six hours of NCAA tournament Friday. Meeting with the other coaches on the Pittsburgh Steelers, like the entire head of the coaching staff, the big guys. That's a selfish move.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That of all days tells me Aaron Rodgers only cares about himself.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

There, there is also a very funny article on Pro Football Talk which is talking. I think it's in reference to a different article here, but basically there was an article in Pittsburgh about the fan backlash to Aaron Rodgers and whether or not the fans will appreciate Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh. It was just kind of letters and emails from Steelers fans. Okay, this is a good one. My 81 year old father said that if Aaron Rodgers comes to the Steelers, he will ruin the heart and soul of the team and it will never be the same again.

[Big Cat]

Whoa.

[Hank]

Maybe that's a bit dramatic, but he's talking about the honor a player should feel for the privilege of donning a Steeler uniform and representing a team that has a history that is intertwined with the citizens of Pittsburgh. Whoa. I don't, I don't necessarily disagree.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Ruin it forever.

[Big Cat]

It will never be the same.

[Hank]

He could, it might not ever be the same after having Aaron Rodgers for one year.

[Big Cat]

I, I, Yeah, I don't totally disagree either. Because Aaron Rodgers will become the Pittsburgh. Aaron Rodgers, not the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Hank]

Yeah, I, I still think he's going to go to Pittsburgh though.

[Big Cat]

I do too.

[Hank]

If we get to the draft and Aaron Rodgers still hasn't made up his mind and then he calls the Vikings and he says, I've thought about it. I'd like to come play in Minnesota. Do you?

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Do they take that call?

[Big Cat]

I don't think so. I think they're in on JJ McCarthy and then we have Kirk Cousins, who also, he could be a Steeler, he could be a Brown. He's waiting because he doesn't want to go somewhere and then have the team draft a quarterback in the first round and then just repeat what just happened this past year.

[Hank]

Yeah. Learned his lesson the hard way.

[Big Cat]

So he has a no trade clause and so I, the reports are he might wait until after the draft to fully make sure because I do think that if he does, if he gets traded before the draft, it will just happen again.

[Hank]

So I actually don't, I don't hate the fit for Jameis in New York.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

He's going to throw a million deep balls to Malik Neighbors.

[Big Cat]

It's going to be fun.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And, and, yeah, I mean, the Jets. Are you a little jealous? Memes?

[Unknown]

Extremely jealous.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, James, New York is going to be a good time. I actually also think the Giants are going to be sneaky team next year. They have like some, they have some good players and aren't that far away from being not a bad team that Jameis might take him over the top.

[Hank]

Yeah, I, I am devastated that he's in my division. Devastated.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that does suck. You have to watch that. Watch him have so much fun.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Breaking moves. Breaking moves. If you're watching the YouTube right now, you can see that we're no longer sitting in studio next to each other. We are all at home. Hanks in his car. And it's 6:45pm and Russell Wilson is officially a Giant. And Stefan Diggs is officially a Patriot. Bang, bang. Was eating dinner with my family and the news came down. We'll start with Russ. I'm bummed for Jameis and I also think this might be if. If NFL Films can figure out a way. I need a full documentary on this entire season because the Giants QB room now is Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston and Tommy DeVito. And I have to watch that.

[Hank]

It's great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Big Ed. What off season? I guess we should say like, what off season? To the off season. It broke. Everyone thought that it was going to happen days ago that we get some news about Russell or about or about Diggs. Turns out they happen within like 10 minutes of each other. Russell Wilson to the Giants, to me, feels like a wife move. Do you agree? Was this Sierra? Sierra was like, hey, I want. I lived in Pittsburgh. I went to Denver for you. Let's do something for me. It's my turn now.

[Big Cat]

Listen, I know that Russell Wilson statistically is probably a better quarterback than Jameis Winston. If you're the Giants, Jameis has a ceiling. Russell Wilson does not. He has. Russell might have a higher floor. He might not throw as many picks. But that's part of the problem with Russell. He doesn't take any risks. He doesn't throw the ball except for checkdowns and down the field along the sideline. I would be bummed if Russell Wilson gets the QB1 job coming out of camp just from a like, if you're enjoying football sense. And I also think that if Russell Wilson plays the whole year, the Giants are destined for six wins. And if Jamie Swinson plays the whole year, the Giants are destined for four to 12.

[Hank]

So this is. It's interesting because like with those two quarterbacks, they couldn't be any more dissimilar I think that's the right word. Like Russ. If Russ was a starting job, he's going to go out there, he's going to bum me out. But the thing is, after like two weeks of Russ bumming you out, you're going to want James playing quarterback. So what they should do is give the starting job to Jameis and say it's his to lose. And then they bring Russ in, he kind of stables things. He makes things nice and quiet. And then after maybe like three or four weeks, he starts to bum you out. Then you go back to Jameis. That's the prescription for the season.

[Big Cat]

Sprinkle in some Tommy DeVito.

[Hank]

Some Tommy DeVito. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like actually, the guy that is unlimited in this situation is Jamis.

[Big Cat]

They should honestly do. If you're Brian Dable, you're going to get fired no matter what. Probably, right? Like, it's probably, it's probably going to happen this year. It's probably not going to be a great year. I do think the Giants are better than people realize. But why wouldn't you just do, like, if I were Brian Dable, I would, I would quite literally just ride the Hot Hand series to series. If you get, if you, if, if it's a punt or a turnover, next guy up, touchdown, he stays in.

[Hank]

I, I, I understand the sentiment. I think that Jameis going through training camp, the boys are gonna be fired up to have Jameis playing quarterback Week 1. Don't, don't get it twisted. Jameis should be the starting quarterback. Week one. It might not go well.

[Big Cat]

It's not going to happen, though. It's going to be Russ. They're paying him more money.

[Hank]

I know, but it should be Jameis. That way you can go to Russ, go to the safe guy, bring in the stepdad, have him come in, mellow things out, and then you switch back to Jameis. But I could, yeah, just go to the Hot Hand. Whatever. Brian Dable. I think if you look at these quarterbacks that they have the three QB's they've got in that room. That is a Pre fired head coach 100. Yeah, like if that, if those three guys are your plan, I was thinking maybe they get Jameis and then they draft someone and then they bring that guy along slowly. Then Dable could do the thing where he's like, okay, we're going to start him after week seven. He shows some promise, keep me around so that I can develop this guy in the future. I don't know if that's going to happen. Anymore, it feels like they're not going to go quarterback. They still might. Who knows? Weird things have happened.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

The way that it looks right now, Brian Dable, you're going to be a great offensive coordinator somewhere.

[Big Cat]

I, I am also excited for. I was, you know, we, we were putting this in the middle of the show because we already taped and we talked about Jameis being QB1. So people probably listen to that part and they're like, hey, wait a second. Russ just signed. So here we are talking about Russ. I'm excited for Russell Wilson to get absolutely killed by the New York media and watch him try to handle that because he will handle it the way he handles everything. He'll just be like, God is great and positive thinking and the guys in the locker room have my back. But that will be part of the show. Like I'm. I. That is the one part. If we can't get Jameis the full season, at least Russ versus the New York media will be fun. Yeah.

[Hank]

Have you, did you notice, did you watch any of the Hard Knocks, the in season stuff last year with Russ Wilson on the Steelers? Yeah, he, he sometimes talks like Jameis, like the words are the same, but he doesn't believe him. The difference is Jameis believes the Jameis words. Russ is just like an AI transcript, like a voiceover of a Jameis Winston sound clip. And it's going to be a very, very weird quarterback room.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right. And then the other one, Stefan Diggs to the Patriots. Hank, you wanted this, right?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

It's exciting. We obviously, we definitely needed to help a wide receiver. He's a super talented wide receiver, kind of a, kind of a head case. But even in the 10 minutes, I had to process this. Good. It's good reps for Drake may like, you know, your second year qb, you got a diva wide receiver. Like, that's something every quarterback has to go through. And I don't think people are expecting two to like. I think a playoffs would be a successful season for the Patriots and I think step on days can help you get there. I don't think he's a long term solution. I don't think he's going to be like a New England legend forever. But he's talented. We needed help at wide receiver and so I'm excited.

[Hank]

I, I like that take though, that it's providing him with mental reps of dealing with a problem wide receiver that he's going to have to deal with in the future at some point.

[Memes]

Yeah, that's good. Yeah, that's but that's true, right? Like, if you're going to be a great team, you got to have a stud slash, kind of a diva wide receiver.

[Big Cat]

The real thing is it's someone he can throw to, which you need someone who can catch the ball. And that's. That actually is like, that's good for a young quarterback. But yeah, I do like that spin as well. Being like more than. More than someone who can catch the ball. He's going to get a PhD in dealing with a diva wide receiver.

[Hank]

Yeah, he's gonna. Man, he's gonna fall in love with Joe Milton's arm. He's gonna be like, this reminds me of Josh.

[Big Cat]

All right? And then, I mean, Roger is going to be a Steeler, right?

[Hank]

That's what it feels like at this point, right? Steeler. Brown.

[Big Cat]

Not a Brown. I don't think he's gonna be a Brown.

[Hank]

He wants some place that's like the culture of Green Bay, weather wise.

[Big Cat]

I don't think. I don't think he's gonna be a Brown. I'd be shocked if he was a Brown. It would be. It would be funny. But yeah, he's. He. I think he's gonna be a Steeler. I think Kirk Cousins might be a Brown, maybe.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, it feels like the QB carousel is slowing down. And then Titans take Cam more. Did you guys see Cam Moore throw the ball like 300 yards?

[Hank]

That was sick.

[Big Cat]

That was so sick that there was.

[Hank]

That takeaway from pro day and then there was The Alex Restrepo 40 yard dash time from Miami's pro day. Did you see what he ran?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he tweaked something.

[Hank]

Yeah, he ran a 4, 8 something. He ran a 4 8. And speed isn't everything, I guess. They're going to look at the tape. Our good friend Arian Foster ran like a 475 at his pro day and he had like a tweaked hamstring. He was pretty good when he put the pads on.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, this is. I hope there's no more news coming tonight. I mean, let's just say it. If Rogers is a Steeler, they might be okay first.

[Hank]

We can be the first to report it.

[Big Cat]

Aaron Rodgers is a stealer.

[Hank]

I think he'll be better than Russ Wilson.

[Big Cat]

Should I text him and ask him just Steelers question mark.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This is every text that I text. Have ever texted him has felt like the last text ever that he'll. Well, he doesn't respond to basically any of them, so. All right, I've sent it Steelers, question mark.

[Hank]

What do you think his response is? I feel like it might be emphasized.

[Memes]

No response.

[Big Cat]

The only. The last time he responded was July 9th, when we were interviewing him at Tahoe, and I just said, we're set up at the clubhouse. He said, I'll be over soon.

[Hank]

Okay. All right.

[Big Cat]

And then there's just the. There's just nothing. There's just nothing. So maybe. I mean, now that we have the JFK assassination stuff, maybe we'll. We'll have a conversation with him this summer.

[Hank]

I feel like he's probably booked up for the next six months reviewing those documents.

[Big Cat]

That's true. That's true. Okay, let's kick it back to ourselves. Good job. Good live. We haven't done a live breaking in a while. Feels good to be back on this.

[Hank]

So what were you guys doing? What was the routine when the news broke?

[Big Cat]

I was. I was making hot dogs for my kids dinner, and then it happened, and, yeah, that was about it.

[Hank]

Hank, what were you doing?

[Memes]

You know, I like to keep my private life private outside. Outside of the show, and I would appreciate it if you guys would. Would respect.

[Big Cat]

What's that in your back seat?

[Memes]

That's my gym bag.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's your gym bag.

[Hank]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

What about.

[Hank]

There's a lot of trees. Are you out in the forest?

[Memes]

Yeah, that's my gym bag.

[Big Cat]

That's your gym bag. Okay.

[Memes]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

There are a lot of trees where you are. Yeah.

[Memes]

You know, I like to. I like to get out and get some nature under my feet.

[Big Cat]

Mm.

[Hank]

Some nature under your feet. Ground yourself. That's a really nice exercise.

[Memes]

I was exercising. I was exercising in nature.

[Big Cat]

The ball marker's still on you.

[Memes]

If you must know. If you must know.

[Big Cat]

Hey, your ball marker's still on your.

[Memes]

Hat again, like you know what work ends, and it's like. I don't.

[Hank]

I don't.

[Memes]

I don't judge or criticize you for what you do outside of work. I was here. We said we're gonna record, and I'm here.

[Hank]

If you criticize Big Cat for making dinner for his family.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. No, you and Hank, you. Credit to you. You're like, I'm ready to go.

[Memes]

Yeah, I left. I left the eighth tee box.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you were golfing again.

[Hank]

Private life.

[Big Cat]

Private.

[Memes]

Like, I would. I would respect some privacy, but that's fine. If you guys must. Must know.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right, let's kick it back to ourselves. Keep going with the show. Okay. Any other stories? Oh, juju, Juju. Juju Watkins, Tour acl. That sucked.

[Hank]

Didn't suck.

[Big Cat]

She's awesome. We're talking women's college hoopsink.

[Hank]

She's the best player, her. And. And they play ball too.

[Big Cat]

They got next. She is. She's like Carmelo. She's. She's woman Carmelo.

[Hank]

So she gets hurt, and then I think the odds drop from what, 7 to 1. 8 to 1 for UFC now they're like 25 to 1. Maybe Ewing theory, maybe Juju theory.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. It does suck, though. She's so much fun to watch.

[Hank]

Jewish conspiracy. Maybe she. Maybe now it's time to bet on the Trojans.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

This is the Jane Daniel's mom hex.

[Hank]

Oh, that's me and Hank.

[Memes]

Oh, wow.

[Big Cat]

I didn't think about that.

[Hank]

Well, I got concerned.

[Memes]

We never talked about this.

[Big Cat]

I saw.

[Memes]

I asked PFD to do some research. I don't know if you. You got to the bottom of it.

[Hank]

I did do some research. There's rumors that they're cousins. It might be cousins. That their families are close. It might be cousins, actually, in the literal term. But there was a picture that went viral of Jaden Daniels sitting next to JuJu Watkins on the sidelines at the NCAA tournament. And they looked to be having a good time. And then a later picture came out. I assume that Jaden's mom saw him sitting next to a girl, which violates the core no girl philosophy that they have, and she came and sat in between them, chaperoning them on a date. I don't know if they're cousins. Don't know if they're more than cousins. I don't know what's going on. I just know that if the two of them were to ever procreate, I would like to immediately draft that baby.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Into whatever sport, but.

[Big Cat]

But she was hanging out, and then Tory acl.

[Hank]

Hanging out toward the acl. Are you. Put it. It sounds like you're wishing an injury on Jaden right now.

[Memes]

No, I'm just wondering, like, at what point, you know, does the mom let the son just live his life?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

No girls.

[Big Cat]

You gotta have girls at some point.

[Hank]

No girls. I don't know, Hank. I don't know. That might be her niece.

[Memes]

Like, it's getting a little weird. No.

[Big Cat]

PFT was showing everyone the picture. Like, it was like, he's like, look at this.

[Hank]

Well, I showed it happen. I showed Big Cat.

[Memes]

But then the mom came and just. And just ruined it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I didn't see the mom thing till after.

[Memes]

It was, you know, the. The video of Rihanna and I Forget who the actor was at msg and it's Rihanna, the actor's son, and then the actor. And then, you know, they cut to the camera 20 minutes later and the actor switched seats with his son and was like macking on Rihanna. Yeah, that's what it was reversed. Except Jane, Daniel's mom.

[Big Cat]

It was a big Italian mom move.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Hank]

No girls.

[Big Cat]

You gotta let him have some girls.

[Hank]

No girls. Crazy. No girls.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[Hank]

I'm sure that they have a good Hank. All you're going off of is like a second and a half clip and it sounds. It sounds to me like you're wishing a severe injury on you.

[Big Cat]

I'm not.

[Memes]

I'm asking questions.

[Hank]

Is it the Jaden Daniel's mom hex?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Well, it's like she clearly does not like her if she's trying to sit in between him and not let him live her life.

[Hank]

Maybe. Maybe she knows something you don't know.

[Big Cat]

Maybe.

[Memes]

I guess.

[Big Cat]

Okay, any other stories that we missed? We are in that kind of dull waiting for NBA and NHL playoffs. What?

[Memes]

That's who it was. Ethan Hawke and Rihanna.

[Big Cat]

Ethan Hawk. Do we have any other. Oh, is Jason Tatum okay? Yeah, he. He rolled his ankle.

[Memes]

He rolled his angle before.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I was just wondering.

[Memes]

He'll be good.

[Big Cat]

Sabonis. That was kind of dirty by him.

[Hank]

Very dirty.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Jumping. Not jumping under him, but getting in his landing spot.

[Hank]

He knows what he's doing.

[Big Cat]

Bulls just keep winning and I don't know, they're just gonna get in the playing game. They're doing that. They're doing the. Jerry Ryan's rough. They're like making sure they get to exactly 38 wins.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And Kobe White has been awesome and Boozalis is a good draft pick, but it's just such a. He's got you right where he just got us again, right by. Right where we want him. Right where he wants us in that they're competing for a play in game at the end of, you know, March, early April. That's exactly what he wants.

[Hank]

And it's going to ruin everything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, at this point it's too far that they. They couldn't even if they lost out, it's like their draft pick wouldn't be bad. So it's like, I guess just root for the young guys. But then when you say I guess just root for the young guys. And they are playing a lot of fun. They're shooting a lot of threes.

[Hank]

Josh, your boy Josh Giddey's having a time too.

[Big Cat]

Good. He but they're playing fun basketball. But he got us again. Because you're like I found myself watching and being like, man, they're fun to play, they're fun to watch. That's exactly what he wants. What are you pulling up? Oh, watch one pick.

[Hank]

Draft lottery simulator.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Big man. Cooper flag.

[Hank]

Love that. Love that, big man. I mean the Celtics know how to take care of a big man with an ankle injury. Jason, bounce back.

[Big Cat]

All right, Simmit. 10 times.

[Unknown]

That was a bad lottery for me.

[Big Cat]

Miami just won the lottery. Sim. So that's one time. Same it 10 times. Let's see, let's see who if. How many times Washington's going to get it.

[Unknown]

That there's Washington number.

[Hank]

Nice. I like that.

[Big Cat]

That's huge. Miami again.

[Hank]

This, it feels like Miami.

[Unknown]

We can't get the 8.

[Big Cat]

Focus on the top pick. We don't care. And the Bulls too.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Hank]

All right.

[Unknown]

That's a, that's a good looking lotto, right?

[Big Cat]

Brooklyn. Damn it. For you, Utah. Hank, can you please focus? We're doing the draft.

[Hank]

Utah again.

[Big Cat]

Utah again.

[Hank]

Mormon magic.

[Big Cat]

I know you don't care, but you should care.

[Hank]

Miami.

[Memes]

I don't care.

[Unknown]

I, I, I'm also not keeping track of how many times we've done this.

[Big Cat]

No, I, I haven't either.

[Hank]

This feels like but yeah, there you go.

[Unknown]

I'll take that.

[Big Cat]

Pfd.

[Hank]

You'll take second. I'll take.

[Big Cat]

Oh wow. You handshake dealer.

[Unknown]

I'll handshake that right now.

[Hank]

Me too.

[Big Cat]

That's huge.

[Hank]

Who do you want?

[Unknown]

One of the Rutgers guys?

[Big Cat]

Ace Bailey.

[Hank]

Washington again.

[PFT Commenter]

Warhopper.

[Big Cat]

Miami.

[Unknown]

All right. Last final one though.

[Big Cat]

We saw a lot of Miami.

[Unknown]

Last and final one. Miami. I feel like was every time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Toronto.

[Unknown]

That was bad for. This is bad.

[Hank]

Zero percent. It goes to Toronto.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Zero percent.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Zero.

[Hank]

I feel like it's going to be Miami now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That was a lot of Miami. They just a lot of Miami. Okay. Should we do. Let's do quickly. We have to do pick for Thursday and Friday together. As a team, we haven't been doing well. Okay. We gotta, we gotta pick a winner here. As a team, we have not been doing well. DraftKings. When it comes to college basketball march mania. One thing is for sure. Nothing's for sure. Upsets, buzzer beaters. Cinderella is advancing top seeds going home early. Bet the unexpected. Every upset every day with DraftKings sportsbook. Everyone's sweating it out except you. DraftKings is offering all customers a no sweat parlay every single day. How does it work? Opt in. Place a bet on any eligible parlay. If your bet doesn't hit, you get a bonus bit back in the amount of your original bet. So bet the unexpected. DraftKings sportsbook. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE to get a no sweat parlay every single day. Only on DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

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[Big Cat]

All right, Thursday. Thursday. Thursday. Thursday. We can't bet against my Maryland because we're about to talk to svp.

[Memes]

I want to bet on Maryland.

[Big Cat]

You want to bet on Maryland. Okay.

[Memes]

With the points.

[Big Cat]

Maryland plus six and a half. I also would like to bet the over in BYU Alabama. I know it's very high, but that should be fun. Although Alabama can't hit threes.

[Hank]

I wanted. I wanted to bet on byu.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so then let's do BYU Maryland and then let's take the over in Arizona. Duke. Okay then Caleb Love, just go off.

[Hank]

I like it. I like that he wanted, he wanted Duke the way that he played at the end of that game.

[Big Cat]

Did you see the clip of where he almost can you try to find it after the game. Caleb Love, great job by him because he wanted to talk some real shit about Duke in a bulletin board moment. And you could see him catch himself in real time being like, why don't I not do this?

[Hank]

Yeah, it's good.

[Big Cat]

Can you find that Max? Max is. He's, he's pulling it up. Caleb Love, post game. Okay. On Friday night. There it is. That's the clip right there. Watch this clip. Play from the beginning against a very familiar foe that you played earlier this year. They beat you in two, son. And you know them very well from your time in North Carolina. Duke. How do you beat him? Hey, he was just thinking there for a second, like I want to say so much right now.

[Hank]

He like, he yelled at himself. He goes, hey, hey. Like that's. That's a sound that I make when. When Blake is about to get into the trash.

[Big Cat]

Hey, hey. Nice.

[Hank]

He did that to himself. That's a very good moment for him.

[Big Cat]

That's great.

[Hank]

Good recognition, Caleb.

[Big Cat]

Great recognition. Yeah, it'd be so fun if just went off. I think Duke's gonna win it all, though. Yeah, I'm pretty. I'm pretty set in that thought. I mean, winning. Winning in a second round game, by the way, they did against Baylor. Just not competitive. All right, the Friday games. What are we thinking? 2. Two big time March coaches in Izzo versus Chris Beard. I actually have a stat for it from our friend Chris Felica. He. He. He had some nuggets, and here it is. So I think Michigan State's favored by two and a half right now on DraftKings 6. Or let's see. Let me see this. Since 2018, there have been five instances of a two seed favored by three points or fewer in the Sweet 16. Two seeds have lost four of those five games. But here's the crazy part. Two of those four wins for the lower seed or the higher seed were Chris Beard. So Chris Beard is taking down two. Two seeds in this exact situation of being favored or underdog of three or less.

[Hank]

Izzo's also a very good coach.

[Big Cat]

Izzo's also a very good coach. And also Michigan State. I think Michigan State, like, as a team, reading everything from them, they might. They might refuse to leave the floor if they lose this kid. They want to win so bad.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. We. We could pass on this game.

[Memes]

I. I like Ole Miss.

[Big Cat]

You like Ole Miss? Okay.

[Hank]

I don't have a good read on it.

[Big Cat]

I like Tennessee -4 and a half.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

They've lost twice to Kentucky this year, and they're favored.

[Hank]

SEC Chaz Lanier has been playing so good in this tournament. I kind of wish that this game had happened sooner in Tennessee if this game was scheduled for. For Monday. I feel like Tennessee rolls, but I don't know. He's been so hot. I like Tennessee, too. Fuck it.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

And then I like. I like Michigan.

[Big Cat]

I like Michigan.

[Hank]

Nine and a half is a lot of points.

[Big Cat]

I love Houston. I think Houston's gonna dominate Purdue. I said something nice about Purdue Sunday. This is my. Say something mean about Purdue. You're gonna get your ass kicked.

[Memes]

All right, so let me switch. Let me switch.

[Big Cat]

Ole.

[Memes]

Missed Houston. I like that more.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right.

[Hank]

Tennessee, Tennessee, Michigan.

[Big Cat]

Michigan. Houston.

[Hank]

That's good.

[Big Cat]

Two favorites in a Dog. Yeah, I'm excited for the college basketball to get back. It was a tough Monday night just watching White Lotus. Ew.

[Hank]

Ew.

[Big Cat]

Ew. That's our White Lotus recap.

[Hank]

They say it ties. No spoilers in your system.

[Big Cat]

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Weird layout. They're in the yeah, Lucas Oil, but half of Lucas Sideways. Yeah, kind of like the AAU tournament vibes. You can get in the building for $229.

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[Memes]

My hot seat is Steph Curry.

[Hank]

Yes. This is bad.

[Memes]

It makes. I mean, it was too good to be true. It always is. There was a viral video a few nights ago. It was during. Over the weekend, I think Steph Curry. It was beyond a full court shot. He was basically in the tunnel.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And he turned around, threw it to the other end of the court and the ball went in. There was multiple angles, celebrated. Super viral. Everyone celebrated. It looked like the LeBron Powerade commercial from back in the day when he's just taking step backs and setbacks and setbacks. Clearly fake. But this one, you could see the ball the whole time. And in my head I was like, I know this is fake, but I can't see where. But everyone, you know, was talking about, like, it was real. Comes out Monday. The video is fake. He did not make it in. It basically.

[Big Cat]

It wasn't a fake video.

[Memes]

I don't know. Because the video. That's the video that they showed showing it wasn't real. They haven't showed. The fans celebrating. Everyone celebrated like it was real.

[Hank]

Yeah, because so he. He shot it from such a long distance away and it looked like it went in. They celebrated because they thought that it went in. We only saw that angle.

[Big Cat]

It was a polar swish.

[Hank]

Then the new.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Parallax angle. Then the new camera angle came out and he missed it short. It hit the net.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But it didn't go in. So if you're at the other end, you think it went in. They showed that to us. We were lied to.

[Big Cat]

So it was a real video. He just never made the best.

[Hank]

Just never made it.

[Big Cat]

You thought it was like a planned video.

[Memes]

I still think it might be. Jury's not out.

[Big Cat]

You think beforehand they're like, hey, let's Plan this video out and hope no one takes the video of him actually missing.

[Hank]

So then you think the video from the closer angle is also fake?

[Big Cat]

I think it's just. He did this, and if you're looking from this angle, from behind him, it looks like he hit it. Yes, because he. The net moved.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wouldn't that be an easy explanation?

[Memes]

No, because there was a second angle. I'm trying to find it. There was a second angle.

[Big Cat]

What am I missing here?

[Hank]

Yeah, no, this is exactly what happened. Yet Memes is raising his hand. Yes. Memes, sorry.

[Unknown]

The original video was cut short. You hear the celebration, and then it makes it seem like he made it. But there's another video where he knows he missed it and goes, it was this close.

[Big Cat]

So.

[Memes]

Okay. All right.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Unknown]

So the original viral post made it seem like he made it stay woke.

[Big Cat]

Hank, I like that you always got your guard up.

[Memes]

Oh, got.

[Big Cat]

You have to.

[Hank]

But he does. He does, like, a little shimmy. Right? He kind of celebrates it, so he does, like, a little pose, but then he does the.

[PFT Commenter]

Just so close.

[Unknown]

The. They're so close.

[Memes]

Either way, Steph Curry has a cannon.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because you do that shot all the time. When we finish recording late, full court. Yeah.

[Memes]

And our ceilings are low, so sometimes I hit the ceiling. But that's.

[Big Cat]

You miss. You. You don't even get it to the rim, like, half the time.

[Memes]

60 yards farther. Well, yeah, you have to deal with.

[Big Cat]

A low ceiling, but still, it's not even a full. It's like a high school gym. And you still don't even even get it.

[Memes]

Well, no, I do. I just hit the ceiling. I could get it there easily.

[Big Cat]

Well, I mean, I've seen a lot of times where you don't even get.

[Memes]

It there because I have to deal with the ceiling.

[Hank]

Oh, but it doesn't get there, right.

[Memes]

Because of the.

[Big Cat]

When you let. You try to throw the ball 70ft and you don't get it there a lot of the time. 84ft, and you don't get it there a lot of the time.

[Memes]

I can get it there whenever I want.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You sure?

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Hank]

How many shots do you think it would take you to make this shot?

[Big Cat]

Go get it there right now.

[Memes]

Right this second.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Go get it there right now. Yeah. He'll film you and put it into the thing. This is a lot of. There's a lot of pressure.

[Hank]

It's gonna be.

[Big Cat]

We'll filibuster.

[Hank]

All right, so you go get it there. Here's what's gonna happen. He's gonna hit the ceiling because he's gonna be so juiced up in some.

[Big Cat]

Way he's gonna fail. And then. And then having a crazy excuse of why we're the.

[Hank]

I'm gonna get it there. Big cat's talking all this. He doesn't think I'm strong. I'm gonna be so strong.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna get it there.

[Hank]

It's gonna break a light.

[Big Cat]

Getting there.

[Hank]

That's my call. Actually. Broken light.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, broken light would be great.

[Hank]

Speaking of broken lights. So that the Caps just resigned Chickering to an eight year deal.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

He is an anti light bulb guy.

[Big Cat]

What does that mean?

[Hank]

He doesn't have light bulbs in his house.

[Big Cat]

Is he polish? He can't. You know how to.

[Hank]

No. He thinks that light bulbs are bad for you. So he. He's got just beeswax candles all around his house.

[Big Cat]

So he's just waiting. And I don't want this to happen. I'm just saying. He's just waiting to burn down his house.

[Hank]

Burnout his house. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's gonna happen.

[Hank]

It's a mistake waiting. But yeah.

[Big Cat]

He's.

[Hank]

He's one of the anti UV guys. I didn't know those guys existed.

[Big Cat]

Anti light bulbs.

[Hank]

That's. That's the guy from Better Call Saul.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Where's Just. Yeah. The tinfoil everywhere.

[Hank]

The tinfoil and the. Yeah. Puts everything inside a box outside.

[Big Cat]

Anti light bulbs. That's a new one.

[Hank]

That is kind of crazy, right? Aaron Rodgers might become an anti light bulb guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And then everyone might become an anti light.

[Hank]

Yeah. Just crystals. I just have crystals and candles in my house.

[Big Cat]

Anti light bulb. I've heard a lot of anti. Like everything I saw someone the other day was like Cheetos shouldn't exist.

[Hank]

That's bad. What the bad take. He's one of those guys that's like if it's not found. If that color isn't found in nature, it shouldn't be on my food.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

All the neon colors are delicious on food.

[Big Cat]

How about also, you can just it. Everyone can do what they want. Make Cheetos. You don't have to eat Cheetos. Yeah, other people can. Did you make it? Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

Almost gave the Steph curry.

[Big Cat]

Gave the Steph curry. You almost made it.

[Hank]

What is Hank. What is Hank's doing? Max is getting like some sort of.

[Big Cat]

What did he just give you? Oh, he gave you a sandwich. He gave you a sandwich with nothing.

[Hank]

You went out to take a shot.

[Big Cat]

And then you got an egg sandwich when you came back. What just Happened.

[Memes]

I was like, wait, hold on. Let me give you the sandwich right now.

[Unknown]

Well, you said you were hungry. You're like, I need that right now.

[Big Cat]

Okay, what happened with the shot?

[Unknown]

The first one, he did not make it there.

[Big Cat]

The second video put it up there.

[Memes]

It was just to the left.

[Big Cat]

Sounds like you didn't make it. Yeah, I had that.

[Memes]

No, I absolutely made it there. Why did you give me this egg sandwich? What am I gonna do with this factor fishing.

[Unknown]

Did you say? I need that so bad?

[Hank]

Yeah, but, like, I don't.

[Memes]

I. I want to eat it.

[Big Cat]

That is a wild move. I just hand him a sandwich.

[Memes]

It was wrong.

[Unknown]

Competitors packaging, and I didn't want the competitors packaging in there.

[Big Cat]

That's fair. No free ads. I like that.

[Hank]

The sandwich is from the ringer.

[Big Cat]

Take a bite of the sandwich.

[Unknown]

Take a bite.

[Big Cat]

Take a.

[PFT Commenter]

You want to take a bite?

[Big Cat]

If you're not gonna eat that sandwich, I'm gonna eat that sandwich. Let me get a bite of that sandwich. Thank you.

[Memes]

Right.

[Hank]

Did you miss.

[Big Cat]

You want a whack of it?

[Hank]

Yeah, I'll take a whack of it.

[Unknown]

I also accidentally. I did. I did a first order, sent it to my apartment. We've all been there, huh, boys?

[Big Cat]

Just eating sandwiches together. Oh, no, there's egg on the couch.

[Hank]

I missed it. Short to the left.

[Big Cat]

All right, you have the video.

[Unknown]

I got distracted.

[Big Cat]

There was one thing you had to do.

[Hank]

How do you get distracted? Food.

[Unknown]

Well, we started talking about the food.

[Hank]

Yeah. Food got involved, and Max's priorities shifted.

[Big Cat]

Who got involved in. Max is like, I have to get involved in this conversation Kinda.

[Unknown]

Well, I was part of the conversation.

[Big Cat]

I was. Hank, what happened there outside? You were short.

[Memes]

No, I was. I was just to the left on the first one, and then the second one hit the.

[Big Cat]

So you can get it there anytime you want.

[Memes]

Yeah, the second one hit the square.

[Big Cat]

So do you say you have the. The same arm strength as Steph Curry?

[Memes]

No, because that video is probably twice the length. Yeah, that was my takeaway from the video, is he has an absolute cannon.

[Big Cat]

Cannons. Pelosi cannons. Okay. What? While Max.

[Unknown]

It says sending. I don't know. On my phone, it says sending, so it hasn't sent yet.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Oh, there it is. We got it. All right, here it is. Hank's first attempt. He throws it. Did not get it there. Did not get it. You cannot get it there. Anytime you want.

[Hank]

Two things. One, it didn't get there. Two, Hank is probably 15 yards closer than Stephen.

[Big Cat]

You cannot get it.

[Memes]

That was the entire beginning at this point, I never said it was the same length.

[Big Cat]

But you can't get it there because.

[Memes]

I know he's like twice as long.

[Hank]

You can back up to where he was.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And you, you.

[Big Cat]

It confirms you cannot get it there. Anytime you want, I got it there. You did not get it there.

[Memes]

Look where it landed.

[Big Cat]

That was a great noise you made.

[Hank]

That was close.

[Big Cat]

Second time. You actually got it there. First time. Did not get it there. All right. What's your cool throne?

[Memes]

It's still me.

[Big Cat]

Button's still on you.

[Memes]

My cool throne was Jane, Daniel's mom. We talked about that. So I'll go with Ashton Hall.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So let's get into this because that was gonna be.

[Hank]

I love this guy.

[Big Cat]

Hot seat. Me. Memes, you have been tasked with this. Explain a meme to us.

[Unknown]

I've DM max every single video.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so, so, so at. What.

[Unknown]

What are you doing?

[PFT Commenter]

Let's switch. Let's switch seats.

[Hank]

Oh, look at this quick little story.

[Memes]

So this guy, Ashton hall went viral on Twitter over the weekend. Someone posted his morning routine video. Maybe the most viral video I've ever seen on Twitter. It has it right now is 765 million views.

[Big Cat]

Holy shit.

[Memes]

Was getting posted over and over and over again. 765 million views. Obviously everyone's posting it. The morning routiner texted me last night.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Just said, check this out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And it was the video.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Which is the mo. Like it's everywhere.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, he said that to me too. Does he do his texts go to everyone?

[Hank]

I don't know because, like he normally texts in all caps for his picks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And so I assume that goes to everyone at the same time. But the last five times he's texted me something else that's been in lowercase. You guys have gotten the same text at the same time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So yeah, he sent. Check this out at like 8pm last night.

[Big Cat]

All right, memes, go ahead.

[Unknown]

So he's a lifestyle coach.

[Big Cat]

Okay, already.

[Unknown]

Already. Bullshit. He has a two hour morning routine. That's pretty much it. He's just.

[Hank]

He's a former college running back too.

[Unknown]

Yeah, former college running back. He averaged but. But six attempts on 8. 8 yards.

[Big Cat]

The funny part about these videos is he does. He does a morning routine video and he absolutely does nothing. Like he. He is. He is up at the gym. He's up at 4am Writing stuff onto a piece of paper. He's going to the gym. He's eating bananas, rubbing banana peels on his face. And he still hasn't Done any work. Like 9:05 comes around and he's. He's not even doing work. He's just dunking his face into to water. He doesn't do anything.

[Hank]

He spent six hours in the morning journaling, doing UV light therapy or. No, that's the IR sauna. Right? He's in, like, the infrared sauna.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He goes to the gym. He. He jumps into the gym for four minutes.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Hank]

And then the funniest part is when he's at his computer and he just goes, yeah, I'm gonna need 10,000.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Hank]

And then it just cuts the next one. 10,000 of what? We don't know.

[Big Cat]

He also, the. The reason I like this guy is that he's not in on the joke because he did a video, I think Monday being like, hey, I see everyone making similar videos that say, I appreciate it.

[Hank]

That was a video from February that was already out.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that was already out.

[Hank]

But it still stands. He says that he. There's been a lot of people that copied him and. Copied what?

[Big Cat]

Mocked him?

[Hank]

What? No, copied him. And they do similar things to his ASMR workouts.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And so people copy that. You're right. Making fun of him. He doesn't realize that they're making fun of him. And then he had a moment of clarity where he thought to himself, you know what? A lot of people followed Jesus too, and mimicked him. So if he's good enough to allow people to mimic him, then I can be good enough to allow people to mimic me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So very Christ like.

[Big Cat]

Okay, yeah.

[Unknown]

So he made that video back in February. But the guy. There's an original guy from about two years ago who made one of these videos who went viral and he clapped back, Adam, saying something. Forgot. I got talked about for two months straight and ain't say a word. So he's going back at hall for this.

[Big Cat]

For what?

[Hank]

So Ashton hall copied this guy.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Unknown]

He's this. This is the og.

[Hank]

What's his name?

[Unknown]

Morning routine, Drew walls and can read that tweet again. Something forget I got talked about for two months straight. And then say a word.

[Big Cat]

So it's essentially. At what point do you think we're going to reach, like, critical mass of influencers where there's some. Everyone's an influencer that we don't have enough people to be influenced.

[Hank]

Yeah. Too many chiefs, not enough guardians.

[Big Cat]

Right. I feel like we're there.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Probably this guy's doing nothing. And yes, we're making fun of him, but he also thinks he's Kind of killing it, right?

[Hank]

I think he kind of is killing it.

[Memes]

765 million.

[Big Cat]

I guess he's killing it. You're right.

[Hank]

And also the guy is jacked up. So whatever his routine is, he has an insane amount of dedication to it. The banana peel facial that everybody was talking about rubbing a banana peel on your face. If you don't remember, our good friend Uncle Chaps did that like four years ago and he got potassium poisoning inside of his eye because he rubbed a banana peel on his face one time and he had to basically have his eyelid lanced open and had surgery done on his eye. And it's still kind of up to this day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So don't. Don't rub banana peels on your face. Bananas are for eating.

[Memes]

I'll also say the Ashton hall at least like, you know, he is super jacked. He's kind of any like, you know, has designer bags. He wears like super expensive bags and bracelets to go to the gym. Makes no sense. But he's got like, like the, the weird like incel. Alpha male energy thing going. This guy drew walls. Literally just goes to Target.

[Big Cat]

Oh, but that's more relatable. I just, I, I'm not.

[Memes]

He literally makes an entire video about like buying groceries.

[Big Cat]

I'm not going.

[Hank]

I love that guy too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'm not going to make any judgments on Ashton Hall. I'm just going to guess he might be in like some credit card debt with the, with the things that he owns and doesn't seem to be doing a lot of actual business business, you know.

[Hank]

Well, did you hear him? He's like, I'm gonna need 10,000. He's buying 10,000 or something.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So I like, I like both these guys. I like the guy that goes to Target that just because it's so funny. You set a camera up on a tripod and then you, you wheel the shopping cart into the frame. You get something off the shelf, wheel the shopping cart out, then you go and you pick up your tripod and you. And you move on to the next right. It's like I am in love with the. I want somebody to film him filming himself. Yeah, that would be a great video.

[Big Cat]

That would be behind the scenes.

[Memes]

I like there's an entertainment value though where it's like you. There's a non zero chance. There's satire involved with Ashen Hall. Like he has Rolls Royce's.

[Big Cat]

No way.

[Hank]

Not with him.

[Memes]

He has Rolls Royces following him running.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, those are least they have to be.

[Hank]

Are rented.

[Big Cat]

What does he do. Does he have a business?

[Memes]

Life coach.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Life coach. Yeah. My. My get. Morning routine would literally just be me sitting on the toilet, trying to take a. Yeah, like, all right, now I'm ready to go.

[Hank]

Mine would be telling Blake to not wake me up yet three times and then trying to start the El Camino, then letting Blake outside, then trying to start the El Camino again, then having a cup of coffee, trying to start the El Camino, putting Blake in his crate and getting in my other car and driving to work. That's what my morning routine is.

[Big Cat]

It's pretty good.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Mine would just be. Yeah. Trying to take a. And then yelling at my kids to please put on their shoes. And then I go to work. Job gets done.

[Hank]

The morning routine.

[Big Cat]

What's yours, Hank?

[Memes]

Wake up. Coffee. Come to work.

[Hank]

You should do a video of your.

[Memes]

I'm not a morning guy.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, really? What?

[Hank]

Wake up, get angry at something?

[Memes]

No.

[Hank]

How do you handle that if there's nobody in your apartment when you wake up and you're angry? Who do you get that out on?

[Memes]

I know. I know. I need 30 minutes. Like, literally, it takes me 30 minutes.

[Big Cat]

To be a human being.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, dude. But that's a good question. PFT asks, like, do you get angry at, like, the thought of us? Because I would assume a lot of times. A lot of time when you come in, it's like, the first thing you have to do is something with us. So are you, like, these guys are the reason why I'm coming in this time. Them.

[Memes]

If I really don't. If I don't sleep enough and I wake up super late and have to be here within those 30 minutes, then yes.

[Big Cat]

You're just. You're just raging against us the whole way in.

[Memes]

Not against you. I'm just in a bad.

[Hank]

We're the machine.

[Memes]

I'm just in a bad mood.

[Hank]

Me and big cat are the machine. The man got to go to work for the man.

[Big Cat]

I love that. I love that. We. We're. We literally get you out of bed in the morning.

[Memes]

Of course.

[Big Cat]

Our existence is what is what gets you out of bed. Not willingly.

[Memes]

No means.

[Hank]

What's your morning routine?

[Unknown]

Wake up. Just go on. Go on Twitter for a couple hours.

[Hank]

You should do a video.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I miss that so much because I used. That used to be, like, when we first started doing this show, I just wake up and lay in bed for two hours before kids just being like, you know, like, on Mondays, after football, Sundays, I just lay there for two hours, just Hanging out.

[Hank]

What are other people talking about today?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

And then coffee, shower, and then come. Coming here. That's it.

[Hank]

Max, what's yours eat?

[Big Cat]

A meatball. Max, do you have bedside meatballs? Like, people have water?

[Unknown]

No, I do not have bedside meatballs.

[Hank]

He dunks his face into a bowl of meatballs.

[Unknown]

Bedside meatballs.

[Big Cat]

Back swings. He rolls over, just sticks a meatball in his mouth.

[Unknown]

No, I. I normally.

[Big Cat]

Actually, Max, you should remake the video. And. And the mouth tape instead of the mouth tape.

[Hank]

It's just.

[Big Cat]

You wake up, you roll over, and you spit out the meatball. You've been resting in your cheek all night. Max has to sleep with a meatball in his mouth.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Unknown]

That's. That's fucked up.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's a ball gag, except it's just.

[Big Cat]

Just veal. It's just in there. What's your morning routine, Max?

[Unknown]

I just wake up, listen to my dog cry, and then ask my girlfriend to take her out. She normally does it. And then I lay in bed until I have to go, and then I'll. Normally. My girlfriend will ask me to do something. I'll be like, I have to go for work. And she's like, what have you been doing the past hour and a half?

[Big Cat]

That sounds very relatable.

[Unknown]

That's basically how it goes.

[Big Cat]

Yep. That's very relatable. Like, yeah, I have to go. I'm rushing now. You can't. You can't actually go until you absolutely have to go.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Unknown]

And then she'll ask me to do one thing on my way out, and I always get yelled at because she.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. You're like, I have to go. I'm gonna be late. Okay, where are we?

[Hank]

That was a cool throne. My hot seat is the media. Media's on the hot seat. And I guess we can include ourselves in the media. We were put there by Doc Rivers because Doc Rivers says no one tells the real story. And I'm fine with that. It's unfair in some ways. I don't get enough credit for getting the three wins in the playoffs. I get credit for losing. I always say, what if we had lost a Houston six? No one cares. One of the things I'm proud of is we've never been swept. All the coaches have been swept in the playoffs. My teams achieve a lot of them overachieve, and I'm very proud of that.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Hank]

So it's on us for not telling the full story about Doc Rivers.

[Big Cat]

He.

[Hank]

He has won three games in the playoffs many times. That's in a Series.

[Big Cat]

So he's just basically changed the entire narrative to, like, I haven't been swept.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I hope we. We have to bet on him to get swept this year.

[Hank]

You think so?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Well, you're discounting the fact that when. When he loses the three one leads. He's won three.

[Big Cat]

He's won three games.

[Hank]

That should be worth something. Like, if you get up 28 to 3 against the Patriots in the super bowl, that should be worth something.

[Big Cat]

Who would be the Bucks? Play like the Celtics could sweep them in the second round. It'd be the Cavs. I might have to bet on a sweep.

[Hank]

You think the Cavs sweep the Bucks?

[Big Cat]

No, I'm just.

[Memes]

I think the Bucks beat the Cavs.

[Big Cat]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Hank]

You hate the Cavs, Hank.

[Big Cat]

You do you think the Cavs think you. You absolutely think the Cavs stink? Be honest. They lost four of their last five, but you. Yeah. So they. They stink.

[Memes]

No. They're number one in the East. I couldn't say that.

[Big Cat]

But you're not worried.

[Memes]

How can you make that argument?

[Hank]

Because they. You think that they'll get swept in the playoffs?

[Memes]

No, I just. I didn't say swept. I just think the Bucks could beat him in a series, so.

[Big Cat]

But are you rooting for. Are you saying that because you can. You're kind of a little deep down scared of the Cavs?

[Memes]

No. I would love a Cav. Celtics.

[Big Cat]

You'd be rooting for the Cavs against the Bucks?

[Memes]

No.

[Big Cat]

Who would you be rooting for?

[Memes]

Bucks.

[Hank]

Because you're scared of the Cav?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That makes no sense. You. You.

[Memes]

You guys don't have experience in, you know, the playoffs and being a championship contender. Do you want to play the team that's a better matchup for you? Like, you want the worst teams to win? I'm not afraid of the Cavs. I would welcome a matchup versus the Cavs. But would I rather play the Bucks? Yes. Do I think the Bucks can beat the Cavs? Yes. Do I know the Celtics can be both of those teams? Yes.

[Big Cat]

Would you. Who would you rather play?

[Memes]

The Bucks.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Scared of the caps?

[Hank]

Scared of the caps.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's. That's.

[Hank]

You just. You said, no.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Hank]

You guys are talking my words. And then you said, no, I'd like to play the team that's the better matchup, meaning the team that you're not afraid of, Right?

[Memes]

I'm not afraid of any team.

[Big Cat]

But you. If given. If given a choice, you would not. You would prefer not to play the Cavs.

[Memes]

That does not mean Afraid, but. Yeah. Correct.

[Hank]

Yeah. You're afraid of free. It's okay. You're scared. Say scared.

[Memes]

I'm not scared.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so then give me the cast. Okay, There we go. Now you're not scared. I agree. But you are scared of the bucks.

[Memes]

Sure.

[Hank]

You're scared of Giannis.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Memes]

We beat him before, we'll beat him again.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

My cool throne is FIFA. Oh, FIFA's on the cool throne. Because former FIFA president Sep Blatter was cleared of all corruption charges by a Swiss court Tuesday. So two and a half years after the original hearing, they were once. He was once the most powerful figure in global football, and now he's been cleared of fraud. So he was at the extraordinary appeals chamber of the Swiss criminal court, which is a crazy name for. For an appeals chamber. So anyone that was pointing a finger at sep ladder and saying that FIFA is corrupt, Sep ladder is corrupt. Guess what? You're wrong. He's been officially cleared. He's done nothing wrong.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So he's. He's a good guy.

[Hank]

Good guy. Never did anything wrong. FIFA, it turns out, plot twist, not corrupt. Everything's above board in FIFA.

[Big Cat]

Oh. So why do we ever think that FIFA was doing anything wrong?

[Hank]

Because we're getting billions of dollars to give the World cup to Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which that, again, no proof of anything under the table happening there.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Hank]

So move on.

[Big Cat]

Move the on.

[Hank]

I do like the fact that FIFA will just. They will always be corrupt. That's what they are.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Very corrupt thing. They're so corrupt that they get cleared of corruption charges.

[Big Cat]

Right. I. I feel like that's just in their bylaws.

[Hank]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

To be corrupt.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Also, you can't even be mad at them when they do what everyone expects them to do.

[Hank]

People are asking me to comment on the U. S. National team losing. Here's my comment.

[Big Cat]

Who do we lose to?

[Hank]

I think we would lose to Panama.

[Big Cat]

Who cares?

[Memes]

We're automatically in.

[Hank]

Who cares? That's my comment. Who cares?

[Big Cat]

But that's.

[Hank]

But Panama sticks who cares?

[Big Cat]

Don't they?

[Hank]

Who cares?

[Memes]

We have a charity invite to the World Cup.

[Hank]

We were hosting.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we lost to Canada. That ain't good.

[Hank]

Well, so did our hockey team.

[Big Cat]

That was the all star game.

[Hank]

Yeah, true. Well, this is. This tournament didn't mean anything.

[Big Cat]

This was. This was a tournament.

[Hank]

It was a tournament. No, it was at the Nations League, the storied Nations League finals.

[Big Cat]

God damn it.

[Memes]

None of these tournaments mean anything.

[Hank]

I think you got to. You got to lose before you win.

[Big Cat]

We keep losing in These tournaments.

[Hank]

Our new coach. Everyone thought that our new coach would be great. I think he still will be great. I think he intentionally lost these games to light a fire into the boys.

[Big Cat]

Well, it's our new coach combined with our golden generation.

[Hank]

Golden generation again, just give. Just make Messi a United States citizen. Just do that.

[Big Cat]

I agree with that. Yeah, I'm 100% in on that.

[Hank]

The coach is Argentinian.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. My hot seat is. Hey, Pft. Can you explain this text thing that happened in Washington real quick? I think it's my hot seat is that. I guess there's a guy in the Trump administration named Dan Katz. Yes. And so his name was listed in it. And my hot seat is me, because I was like, oh, shit, did they mention me? Because it was. The date was when I was 16. And. Oh. And I was like, are they talking about 16 0?

[Hank]

Really dumb thought they might have been.

[Big Cat]

He's actually a real person.

[Hank]

They might have been.

[Big Cat]

I got tagged in a bunch. People were like. It was like, direct. I think it's like treasury director. So someone made the joke, like, do you think they were thinking that 160 was going to solve the economy? I was like, maybe. And then I had to take a step back and be like, dude, shut the up. This is an insane thought.

[Hank]

The Federal Reserve should just be based on big cat's bets. Yeah, I. I don't. I think it's still developing right now, but. Are you on signal?

[Big Cat]

I'm not.

[Hank]

If you were on Signal, you might. You might have been added to that group chat.

[Big Cat]

I'm on. No, I'm on. I have a telegram.

[Hank]

Okay. If you were on Signal, they might have accidentally added you to the group chat.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

So there's.

[Big Cat]

Oh, joc's on Signal. Remember he said he was going to send Adam Schefter some up.

[Hank]

That's right.

[Big Cat]

Signal.

[Hank]

I wonder if he. Yeah, he might have got the invite. So apparently there's a group chat when you're getting ready to bomb a place.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

And they're like, hey, here's what we're gonna do. Here are concerns. Here's how we're going to bomb it. They accidentally added the editor in chief of the Atlantic to the group chat.

[Big Cat]

Wait, they text before they're gonna bomb?

[Hank]

Apparently.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[Hank]

I wonder what the picture is in the group chat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You know how every group chat has that one image? What do they say? Yeah, just. Just an F18. So apparently they were planning on the bombing, and then they added probably the last guy in the world they would want to add, which is a guy that already hates them that runs the Atlantic.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[Hank]

He got added to the group chat. And then he released the logs, part of them from the group chat, and was like, hey, here's how they plan to bomb the Houthis in. In Yemen.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

And then it happened. And then he left the group chat. By the way, if you get added to a group chat where the boys are planning war.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

How do you leave that group? You got to stay in that group chat. They were giving the details about what kind of planes and the bombs, and.

[Big Cat]

You got to stay and rip off a joke and then get kicked out.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You got to make a joke about.

[Hank]

Something or send a picture of your balls. Yeah, that's what I would have done. Yeah, send a picture of your balls to the group chat. Then log out and be like, hey, whose balls are those? We accidentally add.

[Big Cat]

Send coordinates to your rival's address.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

See if they'll just add one.

[Hank]

So apparently that's what happened. There's a group chat for planning war.

[Big Cat]

Damn. Okay.

[Hank]

I would like to be in that group chat. I would just like. Just because I want to know about the different planes that are going to.

[Big Cat]

Use to see it. All right. And then my cool throne. I should have mentioned this on Monday. I did watch the whole game, but we were talking basketball on Monday. The Wisconsin Badgers women's hockey team won another national title. Four out of six years, eight total. Dominant. And they had a. A shootout goal with 18 seconds left to bring it to overtime and then beat the Buckeyes. The pucky's, the lady puck eyes.

[Hank]

Did the. Did the puck go backwards on the shootout or on the penalty shot?

[Big Cat]

No, they. They reviewed it. The. The part like, they reviewed if she went, if she tried, if she stopped her forward motion. She did not. She just made a great play. And yeah, Dynasty.

[Hank]

There were. There was like an hour on Sunday where no matter what TV you were looking at, there was a review going on.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

It could have been in hockey. There were a couple of those. It could have been in any number of basketball games. Basketball is like 30 reviews now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we need a no review game. We just need a night, a week. No reviews. Just let it fucking fly.

[Hank]

I wanted to see a fight in that Badgers Buckeyes game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Do they fight?

[Big Cat]

I don't think so, but they do play every single year. It's. It's the Sunday of the first round, and the. The Badgers played the Buckeyes in the national championship. And we got Their number now got us last year we got him. This year, four out of six. That's dynasty.

[Hank]

Dynasty.

[Big Cat]

Dynasty. Okay, let's get to our good friend Scott Van Pelt and talk some hoops and Maryland hoops. Derek Queen. And we'll finish up with guys on.

[Hank]

Chicks before we get to Scott Van Pelt. He's brought to you by TaxAct. Can you believe we're getting to the end of March? Your taxes are due on April 15th. Hank, do you have any tips?

[Memes]

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[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

What's your favorite? Mine? Strawberry Smash. Hank just stole my favorite. But that's fine. We can share favorites.

[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on very, very, very, very good friend. It is Scott Van Pelt and we welcome him on because his Maryland Terrapins are in the sweet 16 for the first time in a long time and they had the best moment from the weekend and we wanted to talk some hoops with Scott. Scott, first of all, congrats. That was an awesome game. Walk us through your range of emotions knowing that you, you, you maybe root for the Maryland Terrapins harder than anyone roots for any team.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you really just say walk us through your Emotions.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Walk us through your emotions. Because your emotions are crazy. In a Terps game.

[Hank]

Yeah. If you have like two steps or maybe three steps that you went through.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, wait, I didn't know. I did not. Oh, wow. I didn't even think about that. I did not do that on purpose. BFT picked up on it before I picked up on it. I would. I'm a team, no travel guy.

[PFT Commenter]

What are we doing with this Phantom? Nailed it the other night. Like, this tournament has largely lacked. It's largely lacked those moments that make the tournament the tournament. Then we get one. But because we live in this space now where we can't exist unless we're pissed at everything. Oh, he walks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Well, Stereotor said he didn't. I could show you a video of a Colorado State guy doing the exact same thing. Oh, that happened earlier in the game. Well, they got two points and no one gave a shit because.

[Big Cat]

Because it's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's just basketball in the modern era. Anyway, the emotions were insane. I am. Look, I thought as I got older I'd grow away from this. That's not been the case. I. I really, really like Maryland basketball. I have a lot of fun with it. This team's been fun. Queen was a kid that they hoped they'd keep in, you know, in Maryland, and he stayed. He could have gone anywhere. Five star guy, a lottery guy. And then he has an incredible moment at. I talked about this with Stanford Steve on our pod and Big Cat. I look forward to the days when you're telling me this version of your story. I'm out with my youngest kid and he's very, very Zen. He's very stoic. He's like, we're good. We're gonna take it home. Colorado State makes it three. He's like, dad, I don't think we're gonna win. And I said, buddy, you gotta stay in the fight, man. And then they make it and it's just absolute chaos. The family jumping around. It was unreal. I mean, like. Like Maryland's lost a lot of heartbreaking games this year. At the buzzer, I thought it was going to be another one, and then it wasn't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, it really did feel like that. I told you. I was like. I felt like Colorado State had somehow just. They were going to be the team of Desi. They were going to be the big story going into the sweet 16 of, you know, Nico Medved, who's now Minnesota, and these guys playing incredible ball. And you snatched it. And I just loved Derek Queen. Being the guy who's like, I want the ball. It was a big boy move, too. It was maybe wasn't the most aesthetically pleasing buzzer beater, you know, not a step back. Three don't care. That move rocked.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I mean, old school. Off glass.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, in real time, it's like, it's like happening in slow motion. And I'm like, oh, that's so far off. And then it's. No, it's actually not. It's perfect. Off glass. And yeah, I mean, it was, it's like, you know, it's a Hoosiers moment. I'll make it Jimmy Chitwood. And, you know, I did an interview with the Baltimore sun last week, and the legend goes, when he was, you know, coming up in Baltimore, they called him Black Baby Jokic. And, you know, he's not, he's not like the most fast twitch, you know, put your elbow above the square, dude. And he's, he's not like muscle bound, but like, Jokic just changed the entire, the entire paradigm of what you're supposed to look like. Right. I mean, you can look like whatever if you've got high IQ and, and a ton of, ton of talent, big balls and, and Derek's got all that.

[Hank]

I feel like Jokic could also learn from wearing the long sleeve shirt underneath the jersey. That might, you know, diminish some of the, the razor barb cuts that he gets on his arms every game, if.

[PFT Commenter]

For no other reason for the, than the back of his triceps or where his triceps would be if he had him to look like they've been Ginsu. I mean, like every year it's like, what happened to this dude, man? It's crazy. You're right. I think the long sleeves is the play.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So, Scott, we've talked to a few friends of yours over the years that have gave, you know, given their side of things, for what it's like to watch a Terps game with Scott Van Pelt. What, what are you like, during Terps games? Do you, do you entertain outsiders or is it Maryland fans or nothing?

[PFT Commenter]

There'll be none of that. I, I, I really prefer not to watch with anyone. I mean, we're in Florida and there's like an outside setup with a TV here, and the inside setup was bad, so I just left and came outside and my, my youngest came out to hang with me because he, like, he's allowed.

[Big Cat]

He's good.

[PFT Commenter]

But short of that, I mean, it's a very small list. I mean, like, there's no, this isn't a joke. If I was at work, I'd show you. They literally made a sign for me that says panic room. And I would watch in this room by myself at work because I was so insufferable to be around that they just said, look, we're gonna give you a panic room. You can watch the games in there, and the rest of us can operate in peace. So I get it. I'm not the most, I'm not the calmest dude, but, I mean, the other night, I don't know, my little guy kept me calm. He was good. Everything was good until the last minute when he abandoned ship and told me we weren't gonna win. But, But I, I don't know. Like I said, pft. I, I thought I'd outgrow it. I thought I'd be more mature or whatever. It's the one thing I, I still really care about and love. And I, I make no apologies for that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I, I love that you just are open about it too. Like, I, I, I. It would be one thing if you said, you know, I'm actually not that big of a deal. Psycho about it. You know, like, that would kind of suck if you're like, oh, no, I don't, I don't care that much. No, you care a lot. You want it to happen.

[PFT Commenter]

But you know the thing that was like, if you're gonna sit in the front row of the Michigan State game and scream like an unhinged lunatic, and then Trey Holloman's gonna drop a 65 footer on your noggin, then you gotta eat it. And like, that night I had to work. And so we, you know, we start the show with, like, the best sort of piece of video. Best thing I saw today. And there I got to work, and our producers, like, well, we could do this or that. I'm like, fuck that. The guy made an incredible shot. That's like, I wasn't my favorite thing, but it was the best thing I saw. So you win a game that was that intense, like, that, that's where you start. And so everyone knows where I'm from, fellas. You guys obviously do too. Everyone knows the flag I wave. And so the fun thing is that people are, like, genuinely happy for me, as if I did something. The other night, I did nothing. And on the other side of Florida, beats your ass on Thursday. Everyone's coming for me to be like, you know, hey, Van Pel, suck it, you're out. And I'll. What can I Do, like, you just gotta wear it.

[Big Cat]

Do you think.

[Hank]

Do you think people. Are they rooting for you to. To win it all? Do you think people would be happy for you if you got a championship? Are they. Because this happens to us. They want us to achieve a little bit of success, but then the real sickos want to watch us lose in a big spot.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a great question. I think that. I think that more people want to see you be an abject misery, you know, like, yeah. I mean, big cat, the shot of you final four on the ground will live forever. You know, I mean, it'll. It's. And until. Until that magical moment when the committee doesn't screw you and make you play in Denver against byu.

[Big Cat]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

And you get there and you cut down nets. When that happens, then that will. That will kill that meme of you, but only that will kill that meme of you. So I think people. I think they like it. They like to know that you're happy for a little while, and they're like, oh, that's cool. But then ultimately, they root for you to die in an agonizing death.

[Hank]

Yeah. So. So Max finally got over that hump in the Super Bowl. It was awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I think I. And I think people are genuinely happy for the dude because they know that he lives it right. Like, this is not performance art. Like, he's in it, man. And so as long as people know, like, if they feel like you're truly about it, then I think they are like, oh, that's pretty cool, because they get it. Yeah.

[Hank]

I. I think two things are true, at least for me. One, I. I was happy for Max. I was glad to see him win one. And two, I. I missed just being able to call him a loser. Yeah, that was a lot of fun for me. So it took away a little bit of personal joy, but I still am happy for it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but here's the thing. Pft. It. It. It makes you better. You're gonna have to grow. You're gonna have to find another way. You're gonna have to find another avenue to. To stick that needle in. It's going to be harder, but it's just going to make you a better. A better podcaster and a better man.

[Big Cat]

Well, maybe Max, instead of being a loser, and I would love for your thoughts on this, maybe Max is a coach stealer. Has there been that? Have you had that? We probably should have that discussion right now. The Kevin Willard thing is weird.

[PFT Commenter]

It is. And I have to. On some level, I have to Recuse myself from things. Because you reach a place where you. You know, the people that are involved in a way where you're trying to help facilitate conversation and then step away. Like, I'm not sitting at the table, nor should I. But, I mean, look, he just went on with, like, my best friend in. In D.C. on his radio show and said, I'm, you know, like, as of now, I'm staying. I mean, it's like, well, if you're staying, you're staying. You know, I. It's really. It's really weird. I know Maryland's trying to move heaven and earth and give him the things he's asking for. And by. I'm on his side that if you're at a basketball school, you should have the resources to be a basketball school. And so I'm all about that. But I'm also. If the offer of the things you've asked for is made and then you choose to go somewhere else, then that just means you wanted to go somewhere else. And I don't mean he's going to. I'm just mean, like that. That happens in coaching all the time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I don't know. It's a really odd space that we're living in right now where, you know, we don't know. And then there's this huge game on Thursday night. So I'll let the adults in the room be the adults in the room. And, you know, I've made it clear I'm a big fan of Kevin. I want him to get what he wants. And if Maryland offers it and he. And. And he stays, then fantastic. And if he doesn't, then. Then I guess he wanted to go someplace else. So. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

My promise to you, Scott, is that if Villanova steals Kevin Willard from you, we will beat the fuck out of Max. It might take, like, four or five of us, but we will beat the fuck out of him.

[PFT Commenter]

I might come get a kick in once you.

[Hank]

Once he's been subdued, he wanted both these coaches. He wanted golden, and he wanted.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he threw gold.

[Hank]

So it's like, whoever loses. Whoever loses his game, that's the guy that Max wants.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow. I don't know. I don't know that you're gonna get gold. And I think he's in a pretty good spot, man. Like that. It's been a. That's a. That's a passionate fan base. You know, Florida had it cooking so great in the middle. What are the. What are they? The odds or whatever? I don't know what the hell we call that that whenever the time was that football and basketball just won a ton of titles. There's.

[Big Cat]

They're.

[PFT Commenter]

They've been starving for this and they're great. So I don't think anybody's getting golden.

[Hank]

So looking forward to this game. Massive game. I think a lot of people like Florida in it. You're going to be an underdog. What are your keys to the game? We're big formula guys. What are the S. The SVPs to the game?

[PFT Commenter]

I think we need Clayton to sprain his ankle.

[Hank]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Not badly, not bad. I'm not rooting for it and I'm not rooting for an injury. That guy's got such big balls. He takes so many big time shots and hits so many big time shots. They're deep. They, they have so much depth. The depth of the front court and the backcourt. You're gonna need to play them physically the way UConn did. You got to make him uncomfortable the way UConn did. And it still wasn't enough. Like, that was impressive as hell the way they, they won that game because it, it took everything to knock out the two time champion Maryland. Just, they're going to have to make a shit ton of threes. They're going to have to rebound. They've gotten crushed on the glass by a couple of teams and Colorado State got them on the glass. Florida's enormous. If Florida gets, you know, 25 offensive rebounds, then it's going to be a name you score final. So you got to. You don't have to be perfect, but Maryland needs to play its best. The best be the best version of itself. And I think they can win the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I agree. All right, so in terms of the overall tournament, first of all, how did you do this first weekend? Bad.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, not, not terrible. I took a flyer on Missouri and Drake beat him, but I was pretty chalky. I had ones and twos in like I had. I have Florida over Duke, which is one over one. And the reason, like, sometimes you could try too hard to be clever, right. And look for the upsets and whatever, but then once you miss that one early one that goes deep, then you're fucked. And I just thought the ones are great. And Florida and Duke both looked the part first weekend, so that's who I had making it. And I had Michigan State and Tennessee with the others. So, I mean, I'm alive, but it's not like I'm out on a limb with anybody that I have.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And what about the, the talk about the tournament, you know, not, not enough Cinderellas. March Madness is dying. Are you buying into that or you kind of measured like us. We're like, hey, it could be a thing, but we're going to need a couple more sample size. We're going to need a couple more tourname before we just say it's all over and no one's ever going to win again.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone just says nil Portal. And it's not new that the schools on a certain level were getting poached by higher levels. That's been going on for years, but it's certainly nil. And the portal has completely accelerated it. Right. I mean, like, look at Drake. Their point guard is going. Sturtz is awesome. Is going with McCollum to Iowa. Well, of course he is. And so it makes it a whole lot more difficult for like a Missouri Valley level team. If you're a Bradley or you're Southern Illinois or, or Drake or whatever. If you're, if you got a guy, that's a guy, well, then someone's just going to come and say, what's the number? And so that's part of it. And that's a whole other conversation that something has to happen. Like, I'm not. I'm pro players getting money. I'm anti free agency every single year because that's just stupid. It doesn't exist in any other sport. So I don't know. There's a lot that's going on, but I'm not ant like the, the ratings were awesome and you know, like cowherd had this point years ago and he's right. Everyone loves an upset until it's the next game. And like Kansas is acting like, you know what would have been cool watching Kansas play today, but they got beat. You know what I mean? So it's going to be super chalky on Thursday and Friday and through the weekend. And I think people are going to love these games. I don't think they're going to be sad. It's just more fun when there's the threat of, of the upset. And we really didn't have many of those this, this first round. So doesn't bother me. I think it's just kind of the new reality.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Well, we do have the Cinderella in Arkansas, right? Coach Cal, he is the, he is underdog. Cinderella, 10 seed.

[PFT Commenter]

That, that meager little Tyson Chicken nil budget that has no bottom. Like, what an underdog story, man. But I will say this, like, they were toast. They were 05 in the conference and they weren't going to be in the tournament. So it. You know, that was a cool storyline. Cal Patino, you guys covered it all, like, the. The layers of the stories and whatever. But it is. It is funny that it's the, you know, the little. The little engine that could. From. From Arkansas and Cal. Okay, yeah.

[Hank]

Hank brought up a good point. I think it was Hank, and I didn't have a good answer to it. It was. It was about Maryland basketball and just Maryland sports in general. Why do you know why they're the terrapins and not the crabs?

[PFT Commenter]

Because, well, the crab thing is sort of just the flag and the crab are relatively new deals. Like, I don't know why we're turtles. I mean, when I was a kid, it used to bum me out. And then I was like, actually, it's kind of cool because there's a million tigers, but there's only one turtle. But the whole. The whole thing that about we love the flag, and then slapping the flag on the crab, it feels like something that's just happened the last 10, 15 years. PFT. You're from this area. Like, when we were. When we were younger, it wasn't like there were crabs on T shirts. Who. Who would wear that? Well, now it's like, yeah, slap a crab on, and off we go. So I don't know the origin story, but I kind of like the turtle because, again, it's one of one.

[Big Cat]

I agree. I like.

[Hank]

I do like it. It was like, crabs, that's what you eat. If you wore a T shirt with a crab on it, that was like something that your grandfather would wear. It's like, that's kind of a corny shirt.

[PFT Commenter]

When he cracked up, cracked open a Schlitz and put down the Washington Post on a picnic table and pick crabs all day, that's what we did.

[Hank]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Cat]

I think crabs would be a bad name for a team just because that's. It's very minor league baseball. And also, like, you eat crabs. You don't want to have your mascot be something like, you don't want to be the Maryland Stakes. That would suck, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Also, it's. It's an std.

[Big Cat]

That's true.

[Hank]

Good point.

[Big Cat]

True. That's a very good point. All right, Scott, while we still have you, I have a couple other questions. One is, who do you think the MVP is in the NBA right now, and should we bet it?

[PFT Commenter]

Shea Gilgis Alexander has played at an incredible level. I think. I think Jokic is the best player in basketball. I just think it's out.

[Big Cat]

Say again I was fucking with you because I saw your rant about how stupid the MVP conversation is every year, and I agree with.

[PFT Commenter]

Only as it relates to the betting odds. I just don't care about the betting. Oh, I don't want to hear about who's the favorite. I really don't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I agree with that. But, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you big MVP guys? Because it's not, it doesn't move.

[Hank]

No, we're, we're.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll try to be polite and answer the question.

[Big Cat]

No, I think MVP discussion is, is very boring. I just don't. I want to know who's going to win, win the title. That's what I care about. I think the mvp. Like, yeah, I guess if you're, if your guy wins the mvp, it's fun. It doesn't matter for the rest of the league, you know, it just doesn't matter.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm with you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Scott, I, I watched you a couple weeks ago and I want to, I want to compliment you because I thought that Your interview with Yic after he had 20 assists was, was really strong from your end. And you went into the interview thinking, maybe I'm going to get some emotion out of the guy. Maybe after this incredible evening, he's going to sense some of the same joy that I'm sensing and we're sensing as fans. And I think all of us were feeling the same way you were. And then he kind of was just like, yeah, you know, it's his basketball game. I look forward to next one. You know, back to practice. He did not give you anything, but you were trying very hard to drag it out of him, were you? Did you think that you'd be able to do it?

[PFT Commenter]

No, I said it. I believe I started by saying, I know you're wildly unimpressed by yourself, but what you just did, no one's ever done. And, and I thought that was an on ramp to maybe invite the guy to think about it. Now, supposedly later in the locker room, I saw Malone said that he was, he was busting Westbrook's balls. Like you never got a 30, 20, 20 game. Like, he was, like, he didn't know. And the thing I wished I'd have done if I was a real Jay journalist, what I would have done is I would have asked him this question, what would you have to do for you to right now say, holy shit, I played quite a game? Like, I don't know the answer to that because I don't, I don't know that it's possible that he could do Something where he would be like, yeah, that was pretty good. It's an impossible task. So you go into it knowing that, and I tried to open the door. He just didn't walk through it.

[Big Cat]

What's the guy. What's the guy or girl interview that you do in that setting that you feel like you've broken through and you get the most out of that person because you do a great job. But it's very hard right after a game to have someone, you know, collect their thoughts and talk about it. But is there one person or one interview where you're like, yeah, you know what? I've. I've broken through. And this person I actually like, have a good rapport with.

[PFT Commenter]

I have talked to LeBron very few times, but when he came on after they beat the Clippers, I got a bunch of notes from people, just industry people, sports people. They're like, it's clear that you guys have this respect. Like, he shows. There's a way that. That an interview subject can show kind of an appreciation. If they call you. If they just refer to you by name because they know who you are, and then they give you, like, a depth of an answer that's more than just like, the sort of obvious, yeah, we played great, you know, blah, on to the next one. And LeBron's always been really gracious in that way. We haven't done it a lot, but I got from his camp to me, like, just an appreciation for how I do my job. And there's kind of this goofy thing that goes back to the chair that I always bring up because we did a commercial 100 years ago. So I'd say him. Like, I appreciate the times that we talk. Or I think he gives you more than just the garden variety. Like, guys like Jeter, Tiger, LeBron, people that you've known for 20 years, they've been interviewed a billion times. So when they seem like they're invested and actually present in a way that they're. I don't say into it, but that it isn't a chore. That's. That's the best you can hope for if you're me. So I. That's a long winded answer, but I feel like the Bronze always been. Always been really cool in that way.

[Big Cat]

That's a good answer.

[Hank]

That's. Yeah, that is. That is interesting. Have you ever had an interview where. Where somebody cried and you weren't expecting them to cry?

[PFT Commenter]

I can't think of a. I can't think of anyone that wept. I know one time we Talked. We talked to Davos Sweeney after they won the title, and we weren't on the air, but we were. It was like in a commercial break, like, before we come on with you, and you're like, all right, here we go. And I saw him kind of put his head down and sort of shake his head. He was sitting by himself. And I said. And I saw him and I said, it just hit you, didn't it? And he looked up and he shook his head. He goes, man. He goes. I said, yeah, you just beat Alabama. You're the national champs. And he wasn't in tears, but I saw a guy in real time feel that thing. Like, holy shit, we did it. And that was really cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's very cool.

[Hank]

I think we had that experience with. With Chris Berman. Chris Berman cried.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Didn't think that was possible.

[Big Cat]

The Schwarm cried.

[Hank]

He was just talking about football, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we just got him talking about football. He started crying.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, look, it's guys. I. Standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona. I don't know what I'm doing right now.

[Hank]

That was pretty good.

[Big Cat]

That was good.

[PFT Commenter]

But no, but what? I love you guys. Show him respect and love, which is. Which. Which is cool. And he. The coolest thing about Boom is that he's a. He's a legend, but he appreciates people still caring, as. You know what I'm saying? It's like you're Chris Berman, and you're always going to be Chris Berman. Like, I don't know, but I love how much. I love how much respect you show that.

[Big Cat]

I got a question. We. We have discussed this ad nauseum. We are on one side. It seems like the Internet's on the other. What are your thoughts on Danny Hurley and this recent, you know, exchange on. On Sunday? We're. We're pro Danny Hurley. We love just. We think that if you're in the sports media world, especially, these are the guys that are interesting. You know, I don't want boring guys. I want assholes. And. Yeah, could he tone it down a little? Sure. But I want assholes.

[PFT Commenter]

I love how honest and vulnerable he is. You know, he. He. He's talked openly with me about imposter syndrome, which. Imagine that you're the son of. You're the son of that guy, and you're the brother of the other guy. It's a lot. And he had this imposter syndrome, but now he's shared how his ego's. You know, it's hard to fight. And he's talked about Being an A hole. Like, I love all of that, but you also just have to be honest about the parts of that you don't love. And if he's gonna act like that and you're a UConn fan, then you. You gotta just say, well, yeah, that. Like, that could be better. Like, two things can be true at once. You can love the vulnerability. You can love that edge. And you can also say that there's times that that goes too far, and you should correct that.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

There's. There's. There's an out of bounds, and if you step on it, then you're out of bounds. And if somebody says you're out of bounds, they're not. They're not being an asshole for saying you're out of bounds. So I'm with you. I used to be real anti Hurley, like, when he was at roadie. I'm like, this guy's out of his mind. He should take a hike. And then he's. He evolved and became, I think, a better guy, an incredible coach, a thoughtful guy, and this year is a lot for him. So, I don't know. I mean, I think he's on a journey and he's just sharing it. I appreciate the vulnerability more than any of it.

[Hank]

Yeah, he's a little rough around the edges. What makes him sometimes a little out of line makes him. Him great, you know? So I. I don't think I. I said I agree. I think that, you know, there is a line. There's always going to be a line of what, you know, verges into complete territory. Unlikable behavior.

[Big Cat]

He.

[Hank]

He is unlikable at times, but in a weird way, I think that's why he tell. It's a great story, and he's a great character in college basketball, and with you know, players bouncing around, it's good to have those guys remain in one spot, that kind of. They write the storylines for college basketball.

[PFT Commenter]

Agreed. And. And can't we at least me, I can relate way more to that guy because I know people like that.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, I have friends like that, that I love them. But then there's times. But there's times that you just got to have somebody in your life that could sit you down and go, shut the up.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't mean him. I mean, I mean me or my friend that you're like, enough, enough. And, you know, whoever that person is with him, I'm sure, you know, he'll find him. Yeah, but he already has them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, we. I have no problem if you Say Danny Hurley's a dickhead. I'm like, yeah, there's some things that he does that are, yeah, there's dick. But I, I, those people are way more interesting to me than the cliche answers that we get a lot of times in sports.

[PFT Commenter]

Couldn't agree that's. You were asking about that earlier. Like when you interview somebody, like if somebody would just give you something that's true and honest and real, then that's all you can ask for.

[Hank]

Right? Right, Scott. Well, we have you here. It's almost Masters time. I feel like this weekend is when we hear the tinkling of the ivories, the first commercial, the first, you know, hello, friends.

[PFT Commenter]

Hello, friends. I was worried about this. Like this, this, this is way out of character for us. Does this mean that postmasters, when my house may or may not be on fire, I, I'm, Am I allowed back in? Is that too, is that too close a revisit?

[Big Cat]

You're still in.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You're good. We just had, I mean, the Terps are in the sweet stuff. 16 we had to have.

[Hank]

This is going to be the only time this maybe ever happens in the history of the show. So we'll have you on to discuss this.

[Big Cat]

Like that. He's actually mad at you. He's mad at you.

[Hank]

I know that was bad. It was low hanging fruit. I took it. Move. That was my Danny Hurley moment. Sometimes I cross the line. I've learned from it. I'm gonna move on.

[PFT Commenter]

You're not, you're not wrong. I mean, you're not wrong. It's the first time in a long time, so I'm happy to come on anytime. And if it's postmasters, I mean, I, I always just pencil it in mentally.

[Hank]

Yeah, no, I, I am rooting for you this weekend. I would love to see nothing more than, than your Terps beat the Gators and, and move on. I want to see in a final four, Scott. I really do. But in terms of the Masters, specifically, is there anybody, anyone that you're looking at to keep our eye on? Maybe an underdog that's been playing really well that you think can handle August?

[PFT Commenter]

I have absolutely no idea.

[Hank]

That's a good answer. How are we feeling about the cell phones? My phone isn't, isn't Masters doing a different thing with the cell phones this year?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know. I always just had a sticker and I was allowed to have one on the low, low. So I don't know. Is there a new, Are you allowed to have them?

[Hank]

I heard Our guy Beef was telling me about that the other day. That there. I think people are going to be allowed to have cell phones out August Pasta and take pictures. I might have getting fed misinformation about this, but that's what he told me.

[PFT Commenter]

I. It would be shocking because it's. That would be such a 180, but it. Who told you this? Someone named Beef?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, our guy Beef or I Beef.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, Beef. Your guy Beef.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, it's our guy.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, I mean, Beef. Beef knows stuff, so it could be.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Beef is a gem.

[PFT Commenter]

I got one for you. I. I'm thinking. I'm thinking I got a name. He's not like, way off the grid, but no one's going to say. Sepstraka. Ooh, Georgia Bulldog. I like take a nibble on sep.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

All right, I'm in. That's all I needed.

[Big Cat]

You. You'll. You'll maybe cross paths with our guy Beef at some point. He is a consummate pro in the fact that no matter where he is, he will take off his hat to shake your hand. So he'll do it like, not even in the.

[PFT Commenter]

On the golf course.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's Beef.

[PFT Commenter]

Saw that video. That's Beef I saw. And I. And it's where Beef's from. Somewhere in the south, clearly.

[Big Cat]

No, he's. He's actually. He's actually like right on the Illinois, Wisconsin border is where he's from. So, yeah, he's a club pro.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a very. That's a very Southern play. Hat off handshake.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And I.

[Hank]

Just to clear up some missing, I might have gotten some misinformation from Beef because I researched it. It said cell phones are not allowed at the 2025 Masters tournament. So bullet dodged. I was very upset about that.

[Big Cat]

Good that we got to the bottom of that so quickly.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So on balance, Beef, good on the hat takeoff. Very polite. Bad on the info regarding masters technology.

[Hank]

Yes. He might have gotten dunk sentled. I'm thinking that or ball sacked. He might have gotten ball sacked.

[Big Cat]

He got ball sack sport. All right, Scott, I got one last question for you. Roback question. Rhobac.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code. Take. My last question is a two parter. First part is, I just need confidence level going into Thursday. And at what point during the day are you going to be like, all hands on deck. Everyone leave me alone.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Confidence level is five because you. It's. I always say be optimistic because it costs the same. I'm also realistic. So 5. I don't think they haven't gotten crushed all year. I don't think they'll get crushed, but it's going to take a great game to beat a great team. The problem with when will I figure, like, tell my family to leave me alone. My wife is a gator and my children are in the crossfire.

[Big Cat]

And.

[PFT Commenter]

And at some point in the day, Big cat. What I'll make them do is I'll make them make a life choice. You're either riding with me or you're riding with Mom.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's heavy.

[Hank]

Wild plot.

[Big Cat]

You got to put out all their clothes in the morning, you know, at night.

[PFT Commenter]

Choices have consequences, kids. Choices have consequences.

[Big Cat]

You gotta.

[PFT Commenter]

You think about it.

[Big Cat]

You got a tooth fairy. It. You gotta have all their clothes out. Go in. Go in their rooms at 2am and make sure they're closed for Thursday. Are all terps.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's. It's funny. Our kids are all mortified. I think they're taking it very seriously. Like, this is like, I either have to ride with mom or ride with dad. We had golden on last week. I asked him. He gave an incredible answer. I'm like, what am I supposed to tell the kids? And he's like, you tell the kids you're here to be a great dad and you support mom and you're thrilled to see the Gators do so well. He gave an amazing answer. It was wrong because again, the right answer is, you better. You better buckle up and ride with dad here. Yeah, but no, I don't. I wish it were later. I'm.

[Big Cat]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

This is. I gotta go. And I know you do too, but are you the guy like me where I just want to kick it down the. Kick the can down the road as far as possible. I wish the game started at 10.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

So I had more time for it not to be happening.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Because I just. The longer in the future it is, the better. Is that. Is that weird?

[Big Cat]

It's first round. You want it to happen earlier. Like first round. I don't want. You don't want to be the Friday night game in the first round, but if you make it to the second weekend, you want to be a Friday game so you just have a little more time to just enjoy the fact that you're in the second weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

Right. And the fact that this was a Sunday game and then it's like they're playing on Thursday. I'm like, what is this? I want another day of the. Because the. The. The end is coming for. So even if you win it all, like the end is coming. So the longer into the future. Something is agreed. For some reason I think I find it's better. Like I think we agree. But I don't understand what that's. There's some psych for that. I don't know what it is. I'm just odd. I'm sure.

[Hank]

Yeah, no, I. I think that's completely relatable. It's like you want another day.

[Big Cat]

You.

[Hank]

If it was on Friday, then you could spend all Thursday watching the games and then also reading more articles about the Terps and the Terps magical run. You get to watch more highlights without having that. That sadness where it's like, that was a great run. I get to enjoy this day of. Of celebration.

[PFT Commenter]

Stress free. Stress free. And it's somebody else's. Like, honestly. And this is true. Like watching Wisconsin. And of course it's not just you, big cat. It's Andy north who's like a. You know, a. A A family member. And I'm in agony watching that end because I'm like, that sucks.

[Hank]

Yeah. And.

[PFT Commenter]

But I'm like, well, at least we don't have to deal with that for another day because we were the next day. You know what I mean?

[Big Cat]

That.

[PFT Commenter]

That's really what it comes down.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And it's. It. College sports is. I know you got to go. But the college sports is so different than pros. I was explaining it like it's. It's like a different type of sa. It's sadness in that I won't get to watch these specific guys ever again. It's not a. Oh, next year it's like, that's it. John Tanj will never wear a Badger uniform again. And I just wanted to watch one more game. So that's where it ripped from you so quickly. It's just all of a sudden you're like, oh, that's over. That sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's. And the way the world works, it'll be. And. But Guardo, I was just giving guard credit for reinventing the team. They played a very fun style and they got a bunch of dudes that changed the team in one year so they can do it again, but it'll be a brand new team. That's just. That's the world we live in now. Like, there's no very rare to have four year guys. So if you get some, you enjoy them. So.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

We'll root for the Terps, we'll hope the kids make good choices. And we hope the family isn't just horribly, irreparably fractured after Thursday night.

[Hank]

If they told you, dad, we're actually going to root for the over, would that make you happy?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Happier than anything in the whole world.

[Big Cat]

All right, Scott, you're the best. Thank you so much. Good luck to the Terps. We're rooting for you.

[PFT Commenter]

You all right, fellas? I appreciate you.

[Hank]

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[Memes]

I probably had 50 plus.

[Big Cat]

I was gonna say 40 for me, easy.

[Hank]

I think it's probably 30 to 50. Somewhere in that range for all of us. We ate so much Reese's. It was so good. It's chocolate, it's peanut butter. Reese's peanut butter cups are a winning part of the game day experience. Eat Reese's peanut Butter cups. Feed your fandom.

[Big Cat]

Okay, guys, on Chicks. I did just get tagged in two tweets that I wanted to bring up real quick. They're kind of on the opposite ends of the spectrum here. So one is, I was just made aware, I think you were tagging this as well. Pft. There's a guy who has been tweeting for 2, 654 days that Jesse James caught that ball.

[Hank]

It's important to keep people every single day.

[Big Cat]

That guy deserves a shout out. That's insane. 2017 was that game. He deserves shout out. That's. That's grit. And then there's a guy, American Matt7 on Twitter. He's on day two of tagging both of us. Till we acknowledge New Mexico outplayed Michigan State and got hosed by the refs, there's your acknowledgment.

[Hank]

Day two, you can now rest, acknowledge without comment. I like this guy, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Jesse James. I, I, he did catch that ball.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy.

[Hank]

Remember that, Hank?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. 2017, Hank.

[Hank]

Do you think he got that ball?

[Memes]

No.

[Big Cat]

All right, well, now he's got to keep going. I, I do like, though, when someone gets on that, I think there's a guy floating out there that's been tagging Max Homa every day for like a thousand days to play golf with him. Y but I do like getting to someone, like in the first two or three and just being like, all right, cool. Acknowledged.

[Hank]

Yeah, you're good. The day ones are always the best. If I, if I see a day one of tagging PFT commenter until something, I'm way more likely to respond to that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Just going to be like, all right, we're good. What do you, what do you got? Breaking news. No breaking news. Breaking news. Saint Bonaventures has signed big man Frank Mitchell from Minnesota.

[Unknown]

Well, WOJ tweeted the bomb emoji and then it got everyone excited and then it was just St. Bon.

[Big Cat]

It's Frank Mitchell.

[Hank]

I love that. I love that from woj. So many people still have WOJ notifications on their phones.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Now they're getting overloaded with St. Bonnie's news. Perfect job.

[Big Cat]

It's huge. Okay, Hank, guys on chicks.

[Memes]

My boyfriend and I have been having an ongoing discuss about pillows. He thinks it's weird. I sleep with my pillows perpendicular to the bed and he sleeps with them parallel. He's been making fun of me non stop, so I told him to take a poll of all of our friends. When he asked girls, nearly all of them said perpendicular and all the guys said parallel.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

There's no.

[Big Cat]

Weird.

[Memes]

And why is he wrong for making fun of me?

[Hank]

I think you. You might just not know the difference between parallel and perpetuate. Is she saying she sleeps with a pillow? Like, lengthwise, like aligning with her body?

[Big Cat]

I do have a body pill, but I have a head pillow, too.

[Hank]

Yeah, the head pillow. It always goes.

[Big Cat]

How many pillows you guys? I'm three. I'm legs, body, head.

[Hank]

I'm two.

[Unknown]

I've. Yeah, no, that's. That's correct answer.

[Hank]

Yeah, I go head and then one between the knees.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, that's the.

[Unknown]

Yeah, nobody gotta hug one too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you gotta have one to hug. Hug it. My hug one is smaller than the other two.

[Unknown]

Mine are all the same.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I hug all.

[Memes]

Yeah, I'm four.

[Hank]

Four.

[Memes]

But I really only use two.

[Big Cat]

Well, then that's the question is how many you got?

[Memes]

What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

What do you use? What's in use?

[Memes]

Two. I don't.

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[Memes]

I don't have a hug pillow or a leg pillow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you don't have a. I do.

[Memes]

But I do have the. The secondary pillow. Sometimes it's like. That's my cooler. Like wake up and shift to the cold.

[Big Cat]

So you just got. You just raw dog. Two under your head. Head.

[Memes]

Yeah, they're pillows.

[Big Cat]

You got. No. You got nothing on. In between your legs. Do you not have balls?

[Memes]

No. What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

That's why I need the leg pillow. Because I. If you. If you lay on your side with your legs, your knees touching, that's just squishing your ball.

[Unknown]

You got tiny balls.

[Big Cat]

You got tiny balls.

[Unknown]

I guess you got tiny balls.

[Big Cat]

Damn. Big dick. Tiny balls. Henry Lockwood.

[Hank]

Hank. It might also just be. You could start using a leg pill if somebody told you that made your golf swing better.

[Big Cat]

That's true.

[Memes]

Do anything.

[Hank]

It does. It does help help.

[Memes]

Does it?

[Hank]

I actually do. I. I have three pillows, now that I think about it. One under the head, one between the knees, and then the third I take off the bed every day and I throw on the floor.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I got one of those too.

[Hank]

I should just go with two pillows, but I have three every day.

[Big Cat]

I also have a separation pillow in the middle of the bed to just divide the. Because I don't want. I don't want my wife coming over to my side in the middle of the night. I. I sleep. We sleep with separate planes. Blankets too, because I am a. I am a violent sleeper. I am moving.

[Unknown]

I get yelled at for stealing the blanket every single.

[Big Cat]

You got to go two blankets. Life Changing. Do that. Go to blankets. It literally is life changing because I know I'm a bad blanket guy. I'm wrapped up. I'm. I wake up and my blankets and pillows are everywhere. And it's like I've ran a marathon, so need to put that memes. Memes could strike me as like a zero pillow.

[Hank]

Memes might be a hammock guy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no, he's a. He's a. I fall asleep on the recliner in front of my nine TVs.

[Hank]

Or like by. You have one of those inversion tables. You just strap your. Your ankles in it. Sleep upside down like a bat.

[Big Cat]

What do you. How many pillows you got? Memes.

[Unknown]

I have three pillows. Sometimes I don't use any.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

You just go fly.

[Unknown]

I go flat.

[Big Cat]

You strike me as zero pillow guy. I don't know. This question. This question makes no sense. Perpendicular, horizontal, like is if this is this person saying they do not have a pillow under their head.

[Hank]

No, they're saying that they put the pillow lengthwise, which is crazy.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I see. Yeah.

[Memes]

It makes no sense.

[Big Cat]

So they're sleeping on just a small portion. Yeah.

[Hank]

And I guess if you're smaller, like even me, I'm 5 10, basically. But if you lay. If I lay in a bed and I go pillow lengthwise, I run out of bed at the bottom. Yeah, if you're at the bottom of your lengthwise pillow.

[Big Cat]

Huh. Maybe it's a small pillow.

[Hank]

It could be small. It could be decorative. The half size pillow, it could be decorative.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

But then it wouldn't matter. Then it.

[Memes]

Then yeah, if it's square, it's square.

[Unknown]

Square.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If it's square, it doesn't matter.

[Unknown]

No, it would have to go. Some of it would have to go.

[Big Cat]

Up the head headboard a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Unless it's a true half pillow.

[Memes]

I don't understand where that makes any sense.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Why would that be better?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

This girl's a freak and her friends respectfully freak.

[Memes]

Hey, guys. Love the show.

[Big Cat]

Oh, thank you.

[Memes]

My boyfriend likes to wrestle me like running tackle. Slams onto the bed, flipping me upside down. WWE type stuff.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Memes]

He says it's his way of showing love and I should appreciate it. It's just that he's so much bigger than me. I don't know what to do back. Do you have any suggestions moves I don't know about?

[Hank]

Yeah, the noogie. Noogie is always a good one.

[Memes]

Nutshot.

[Hank]

Nutshot. Fish hook.

[Big Cat]

Fish hook. Fish hook is diabolical.

[Hank]

It's the equal.

[Unknown]

I was Gonna say wet willie.

[Hank]

Oh, wet willie.

[Big Cat]

Dry willie. Dry willy. You take. You put your finger in your own ear and then you put your finger in the other person's mouth. That's diabolica. I've done that a few times.

[Hank]

Little finger up the butt.

[Big Cat]

Ah, yeah. No, you gotta let him just do it. This is. Or you know what a real solution is? Just have kids. Because I like one of the best parts about being a dad is I am so much stronger than my kids. It's crazy. I can throw them around, I can pick them up, put them over my head. I feel like a monster, like when I'm. When I'm just like grabbing them and throwing them because I just feel like the strongest man alive. So it's a cool feeling. Dates? I. I'm so much stronger than them. Five year old. No problem. Hey.

[Memes]

Six out of ten. Big cat. Oh, so true. Pft. Oh, Hank. Shout out, situate. And don't trust the process. Max, I've been dating my 30 year old boyfriend for 2 1/2 years and we've lived together for about 1 1/2 years lately. He won't stop putting his fingers up my nose. Several times a day he'll just randomly shove his fingers up my nose. When I try to swat his hands away or ask him why he's doing that, he tells me to protect my holes. Is this normal guy behavior?

[Hank]

It's smart advice. It's good advice on the whole. What is that like fifth base? Fingering somebody's nose? Yeah, it's a weird move.

[Memes]

Fourth. I don't know.

[Hank]

Here's nose.

[Memes]

It depends where you rank them.

[Hank]

Yeah, I guess he, he's just, just whole curious.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he just wants to find some holes.

[Hank]

He wants every, wants to know every hole.

[Big Cat]

What holes is he doing again?

[Hank]

Protect your holes.

[Big Cat]

That's kind of a funny. Like just put it up someone's nose all the time. Not all the time. Every now and then it could be funny.

[Hank]

Does he just do it like a quick twist or does he try to go excavating? Is he like picking boogers out?

[Memes]

He won't stop putting his fingers up my nose, so. Fingers too.

[Big Cat]

Whoa.

[Memes]

Double nose. Can't breathe. That could. You could kill.

[Big Cat]

You could kill her. I. When, when, when do you think like in, in popular culture, like picking your nose became gross because I pick my nose all the time. Who doesn't pick their nose? You have to pick your nose. Yeah, like when we're on live streams, people will be like, oh, caught you picking your nose. No duh. Dude, I'm picking my nose.

[Hank]

Yeah, because you might get caught on live stream with a booger in your nose.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, I'd much rather pick my nose and have a booger flying out of my nose.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Max had one the other day and I, like, I actually felt bad saying something.

[Memes]

You think it's weirder to stick your see, watch someone, like, picking their nose or like picking their ear?

[Big Cat]

Picking their ears. Weird. Yeah. Doing that is weird.

[Hank]

You just gotta clean out your holes.

[Memes]

But picking your nose is more frowned upon, I think.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know that doesn't make sense.

[Hank]

I think it's because it's implied that you might eat it.

[Big Cat]

I don't eat my boogers. Just so everyone's clear. Never have you pick it.

[Hank]

Never will you flick it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Hey, guys. So my boyfriend and I just moved in together. We've been dating a little over a year, and I'd say about once a week I catch him reverse cowgirling the toilet. He will be resting his arms on the tank while he scrolls. He says it is because his arms get tired.

[Big Cat]

Wait, what?

[Memes]

He says it only works for peeing, but hopes to perfect the position for pooping. Also, is this normal? Is he doing something else? Please help.

[Hank]

I feel like this might be written by a guy.

[Memes]

Yeah, there's no way.

[Hank]

Because she's calling it reverse cowgirling the toilet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And also, like, you don't. Peeing takes two seconds. There's.

[Hank]

Your arms wouldn't fall asleep if you pee.

[Big Cat]

I would say don't do that if I. I feel like if you did that, that would be just a lot of. At like the front of your toilet and that'll be a problem.

[Hank]

There's a graphic that goes viral once every couple years. It says, did you know it's one of those things where they say you've been doing it wrong this whole time. Did you know that toilets are actually meant to be on facing the tank because you have a place to rest your book on top of it? Again, I don't think that's true. No, I don't think that's because all the water's at the back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Which is where the butthole is.

[Big Cat]

I think this guy might be trying to his toilet. Like, if you're sitting that way, you're probably dipping. You're probably dipping it in.

[Hank]

Dipping dong in the water.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You're dipping a little dong.

[Hank]

It's like you're going fishing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I can't think of a reason why you would do that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think this is a Guy wrote it in. Or another freak.

[Hank]

Yeah. How old were you when you discovered that this is the proper way to sit on the toilet?

[Big Cat]

That's very.

[Hank]

That's a great post.

[Big Cat]

That definitely gets people curious and doing stuff.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's a life hack.

[Memes]

All right, last one. My name is Kimmy, and I had a question or really just asking for advice on what to do here in this situation. I love my boyfriend dearly, but for about six months now, he's been rating everything he eats on the boom meter.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah?

[Memes]

Yeah. It was funny the first week or so, but now it's gone too far. No, it's to the point where he keeps a detailed notes list on his phone of different restaurants, menus, my cooking, and now even my mom's cooking, with a ranking scale of 1 to 5. Booms.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Memes]

I drew the line when, after we finished eating my mom's favorite chicken enchiladas, he pulled out his phone, got the notes app out during dinner, and you could hear him saying under his breath while typing, I gave this 4.2 booms. He loves this. I love him, but don't. Oh, this is cut off. He loves this. I love him, but don't know if it will stop now because I've asked him and it hasn't. It's almost like a tick. What do I do?

[Hank]

You just gotta wait. You gotta wait for the next thing to come out and he'll move on to it.

[Big Cat]

Stopping him, asking him to stop is the opposite of what you should be doing. Just ignore it. But also, this guy rocks. And you got a real one.

[Hank]

One.

[Big Cat]

Get. Get. Get married to him right now.

[Memes]

Yeah, it might not work, but one thing you could do is just, you know, do the thing where you do it more than him, and then he gets annoyed at you doing it, so then he stops.

[Big Cat]

Well, what you could do, but that.

[Memes]

Might not work because he might love you doing it, and then you're just stuck in Boomville.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, what you could do is you could rate his ratings and rate. And rate it on the doom scale. So you could give him a doom for his rating of your mom's enchiladas being Booms.

[Hank]

I was hoping that every single rating this guy had was gonna be five Booms. Yeah, they're all. They're all good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's gotta suck. When you're.

[Hank]

When he throws out one boom, is it 4.2 booms?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I don't know if you can do 0.2 booms either.

[Hank]

No, you can't.

[Memes]

But it's Pretty good.

[Hank]

It's binary.

[Big Cat]

Boom, boom, boom, boom.

[Hank]

That's a boo.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. No, this guy is awesome, though. I love this guy.

[Memes]

Yeah, you're right. You can't do decimals with you.

[Big Cat]

The boobs. It's either a boom or it's not.

[Memes]

It's one.

[Big Cat]

It's not a half a boom. Yeah, tell them that.

[Hank]

That.

[Big Cat]

Tell him. Play him this and be like, hey, we love this guy. He rocks. But his rating system's all up. So either he fixes that or he stops altogether. I'd prefer him to fix it and keep going. But he can't be doing four point twos.

[Hank]

No, no. I can see whatever the new trend is that's going to happen in, like, six months. He'll just incorporate that instead of boom. Then you'll have to get upset at him about that. Let guys have hobbies. Sounds like he's passionate about this. I would encourage.

[Big Cat]

Also sounds like he's keeping a good log of, like, where you can go back to dinner.

[Hank]

Yeah. This is actually. If you take out the boom and the Costco guys from the equation. He's being a good boyfriend, right?

[Big Cat]

Like, oh, we want Ty tonight. And he's like, actually, I had a. I had a 4. We can't do 4.5. A 5. Boom Tide dinner, you know, a month ago. Yeah, it says right here.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Love those guys.

[Hank]

When he's doing it, I wonder, does he. Does he flex? Does he. Does he do the whole deal?

[Big Cat]

Maybe that's what you say. You say, hey, if you're gonna do the booms, you don't have anywhere near the biceps of big justice. Like, like, maybe, maybe, maybe you can. The best thing that could happen out of this is you get him in the gym.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he still does it.

[Hank]

Just to make the booms better.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the Booms. Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. Jeff, pass it on. Friday, talking baseball numbers. Three.

[Unknown]

Somebody on the back.

[Big Cat]

Do you want three?

[Unknown]

No, it's okay. Someone on the bachelor party said 22. That was their submission.

[Hank]

Okay, just pick 22.

[Big Cat]

One.

[Hank]

63.

[Memes]

Two.

[Big Cat]

60 what?

[Hank]

63.

[Unknown]

99.

[Hank]

Oh, there's a ball in there, too.

[Big Cat]

15 would have been. What was your guess?

[Hank]

63.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it would have been 61.

[Hank]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Have you got the numbers? Two.

[Memes]

Two fans, you have two. Two.

[Big Cat]

I think today's going to be the day. Three comes up.

[Unknown]

22.

[Hank]

22.

[Unknown]

22. 18.

[Big Cat]

You're never going to get it.

[Unknown]

Three can't be three.

[Big Cat]

74. You want to do one more memes? Yeah.

[Unknown]

Let's do one more.

[Big Cat]

All right, numbers. 2, 3, 22, 63, 54. Memes. You got to realize when we steal your numbers, it's just. It's just as much nervous for us, because if you end up getting it right on a stone, like if you get 54 here, we were to blame.

[Unknown]

Fair.

[Big Cat]

So it's a risk, but you're also never gonna get it. So 99. So Max has three. I have 22, 50, 78.

[Unknown]

Was that back to back?

[Big Cat]

No, 74 and 78.

[Unknown]

And it was 76, that last one, I'm pretty sure.

[Hank]

Wow. And 75 was stuck in there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Love you guys.

[Big Cat]

You're never going to get it. Sa.