Thanksgiving Day NFL Preview, Stavros Halkias Talking Ravens, A-Rod And His New Documentary, Week 13 Sunday Picks And Preview

Summary

Pardon My Take – Thanksgiving Day NFL Preview, Stavros Halkias Talking Ravens, A-Rod and His New Documentary, Week 13 Sunday Picks And Preview

Date: November 26, 2025
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Guests: Stavros Halkias, Alex Rodriguez
Theme: Thanksgiving NFL Preview, Mid-Season College Football, Guest Interviews, and Week 13 Breakdown

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Episode Overview

This jampacked Thanksgiving special of “Pardon My Take” covers:

• An extensive preview of all Thanksgiving and Black Friday NFL games, plus early Week 13 matchups
• A passionate (and hilarious) check-in with comedian Stavros Halkias, lamenting and celebrating the Ravens
• An in-depth interview with Alex Rodriguez about his new HBO documentary, career, and life reflections
• College Football’s rivalry week, College Football Playoff scenarios, plus hot seat/cool throne takes
• Classic PMT banter including mail woes, bad city parking tickets, podcast rivalries, and wild viral sports stats

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

Thanksgiving NFL Preview & Week 13 Breakdown

Timestamps: 03:26 – 86:34

General Takeaways

• The full Thanksgiving slate (Packers-Lions, Chiefs-Cowboys, Bengals-Ravens) is the best in years, and fans are getting rewarded for what looks like an uninspiring Sunday.
• There's deep gambling action, injury speculation, and classic holiday ritual talk (including halftime show wish lists and Corgi races).
• Memorable moment: Unfiltered takes on team expectations, with both real talk and over-the-top hope/disaster spirals.

Packers vs. Lions (57:42)

• Emotional baggage: Lions’ classic throwback Thanksgiving uniforms conjure “so many memories of the Lions losing in those uniforms on Thanksgiving.” – Big Cat (57:53)
• Concern for Lions defense being tired from previous extended game, and the need for Jameson Williams to step up.
• Jordan Love’s historically solid Thanksgiving performances cited—“Jordan Love has done very well on Thanksgiving… 71% completion, 5 TDs, 0 INTs.” – PFT (59:37)
• Stats: Since 2004, Thanksgiving favorites are 51-19 straight up and 40-20 ATS. “How do I always lose money on Thanksgiving, but I do?” – PFT (60:12)

Chiefs vs. Cowboys (61:44)

• Game stakes: “Whichever team loses… you can put the stamp on them. Eliminated.” – Big Cat (63:47)
• Chiefs’ track record as Thanksgiving road favorites discussed.
• Patrick Mahomes stat: “Never lost a road game on a Wednesday, Thursday, or Saturday” – PFT (66:26)
• Lean: Over is the best bet. “No matter how much the Cowboys go up, the Chiefs are going to come back.” – Hank (67:10)

Bengals vs. Ravens (68:53)

• Key injuries: Bengals missing Trey Hendrickson and Tee Higgins.
• Stat: Lamar is 6-1 vs. Burrow; Ravens to wear all purple.
• Stakes: “Must look good for the Ravens offense.” – Big Cat (70:08)
• Both teams need “a banger” to cap Thanksgiving.

Black Friday: Bears vs. Eagles (71:17)

• Max (Eagles fan) nervous: “We just don’t have a secondary.”
• Real talk from Big Cat: “There’s maybe been some thoughts in my head like—why don’t we just beat the Eagles and go 9-3? …But I’m keeping those suppressed.”
• Bounce back stat: “Favorite shut out in the second half: 60% against the spread next game.” – PFT (73:32)
• Deep fan psychology, “why can't we just keep winning games?”

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Stavros Halkias on the Ravens & Life as a Fan

Timestamps: 89:10 – 110:10

The Reluctant Optimism & Ravens Identity

• Stavros, tongue-in-cheek: “Getting pussy with a limp dick…just barely enough for penetrative intercourse. We did just enough to win five games, and it’s not inspiring.” (92:08)
• On the Ravens being more defense than Lamar: “Kyle Hamilton is the fucking best defensive player in the league... Now we have a fucking awesome defense and the pressure*’s* a little off him.” (98:04)
• “We're not a numerology team. We're a vibes-based organization.”
• Comparing current season to classic Ravens “sneak in as a wildcard, nobody believes in us” Super Bowl runs.

College Football / Thanksgiving Traditions

• Greek-American Thanksgiving: “Replace turkey with lamb… it’s just better.”
• Thanksgiving is “leftover from when people ate gruel. Now we have everything at our fingertips…I’m not settling for the peasant bird.”

Hollywood & MILF Island

• Stav describes Venice Film Festival red carpet: “I was skipped; they thought I was a bodyguard. I had to be like—I’m actually in the movie!”
• “If they ever make MILF Island, NP—search the records for ‘Halkias’.”

Ravens Playoff Path

• “We're going as the fucking wild card. Underdogs in every round. That's how it's done.” (108:04)

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Alex Rodriguez Interview: Documentary, Legacy & Ownership

Timestamps: 112:13 – 141:47

On “Alex vs. A-Rod” (HBO)

• Motivation: “I wanted my daughters to be okay with it… My young daughter Ella said, ‘Dad, if we're going to do this, we're going to be real. No more apology tours. This is our story.’” (113:57)
• Harshest criticism: “That was the hardest thing I had to do—reliving those moments, opening up those wounds…” (114:27)
• On father’s absence driving ambition and flaws: “At 28 I was a seasoned veteran baseball player, but as a man, I was 12.” (116:28)
• On PEDs: “Once I crossed that line with HGH, it was a wrap and I knew I was on the wrong side of history—but ultimately, I just wanted to get out there and perform.” (128:11)
• On Hall of Fame: “I’m hopeful, but if I don’t get in, I know whose fault that is—mine.” (125:24)

Baseball/NBA Ownership

• On modern player movement: “You can hit .200, strike out 200 times and still get a 5-year contract. Maybe I have a chance!” (126:55)
• On David Ortiz, postgame trolling: “It hurts my soul…when you win, you can spike the ball.” (134:42)
• On Timberwolves co-ownership: “You’re helpless as an owner. As a player, you can grab a bat. As an owner, you can only cheer louder. But I’m incredibly grateful.” (135:45)
• On Jeter: “Our relationship is as good as it’s been in 20 years. But Jeter had the maturity at 21 of a 31-year-old. At 31, I had the maturity of a 9-year-old.” (139:36)

The (Not) Centaur Painting

• A-Rod laughs off the infamous rumor: “I wish I was that clever…not a bad idea…Let’s get it done.” (129:33)

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Hot Seat / Cool Throne

Timestamps: 35:55 – 54:15

Notables:

• Hot Seat: New York Post for mislabeling Jerry O’Connell’s family (“We need a good enemy. NY Post is a good one unless they’re writing something good about us.”).
• Cool Throne: Jameis Winston, “the new Slash”—offering to play tight end, being an all-purpose weapon.
• Aubrey Huff viral “pick-up line,” dubbed “shooting fish in a barrel,” leads to PMT riffing about absurd alpha-male dating advice (45:23).
• Box Office: India’s Women’s Blind Cricket Team winning the World Cup (“I would not count them out against seeing teams!” – Zach)
• Bizarre Mail/Red Light Camera Tangent: “My commute to work is like Sonic getting hit, with coins falling out.” – PFT (16:57)
• PMT Store updates and fantasy football infighting (“The team fell apart months ago...The Phillies broke the team.” – Jerry, 53:01)

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College Football Rivalry Week & Playoff Ramifications

Timestamps: 18:27 – 35:33

• JMU Playoff dreams, and the committee’s “hard on for the American” discussed (“Every computer has JMU in, but the committee…just has a hard-on for the American.” – PFT, 18:55)
• Tom Fornelli’s vendetta against JMU
• What happens if the Group of Five team gets blown out?
• Coaching carousel crystal-balling: “If JMU’s coach takes the Penn State job, it cements JMU as the #1 place for any up-and-coming coach.” – Big Cat
• Texas A&M’s “luck of the draw” in SEC scheduling; “They have not played a single team in the top eight of the SEC.” – PFT (32:03)

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Notable Quotes

On Thanksgiving Rituals:

• “The Thanksgiving halftime show should be goofy. We need the Corgi races and kids vs mascots every year.” – PFT (61:44)
• “There shouldn’t be 12 steps to make turkey delicious. I just put a cut of meat in the oven, come back 3 hours later, and eat lamb.” – Stavros (102:43)

On Fan Pessimism/Optimism:

• “Part of my superstitious brain is like—stay in that mode of not expecting anything crazy…why don’t we just beat the Eagles and go 9-3?” – Big Cat (77:16)

On Legacy and Reflection:

• “As great as I got to be as a ballplayer, I was becoming more detached from reality, more from self-awareness. My ego was getting inflated…but more than that, it was just the lack of self-awareness.” – Alex Rodriguez (116:28)

On Ravens Fandom:

• “We are back, but…we did just enough to win 5 games and it’s not inspiring. It’s like getting pussy with a limp dick.” – Stavros Halkias (92:08)
• “We're a vibes-based organization.” – Stavros Halkias (98:04)

On PMT Culture:

• “We invented the concept of listing your top four favorite things.” – Big Cat (30:32)
• “Wings have become table bread for us. They're just always on the Sunday spread.” – PFT (144:32)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Opening/Thursday Night Recap: 03:26–18:27
• College Football Playoff/Rivalry Week: 18:27–35:33
• Hot Seat/Cool Throne: 35:55–54:15
• NFL Thanksgiving Preview & Sunday Slate: 57:06–86:34
• Stavros on Ravens & Holiday Football: 89:10–110:10
• Alex Rodriguez Interview: 112:13–141:47
• Sunday Rapid Fire/Game Previews (and fantasy): 143:23–199:14
• Jerry’s Fantasy Minute: 196:43

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Final Thoughts

This mammoth pre-holiday special is classic Pardon My Take: hilarious, profane, surprisingly analytical, and colored by both intense fandom and total self-parody. Whether prepping for the weekend’s games or seeking the best football banter on the internet, this episode is thick with signature PMT moments, the right amount of guest depth, and the kind of chaos that only Big Cat and PFT can deliver.

“Let’s get three bangers on Thanksgiving. We deserve it.” – PFT (70:55)

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Transcript

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Let him flex a little bit. We usually get on here to just crap down his throat after a playoff loss. So let's let Stavi show out.

[PFT Commenter]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Zach]

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[PFT Commenter]

What? Just 170. You were on. You were. You were looking at it. I thought you were there.

[Hank]

My phone's fucking up.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that new iPhone?

[Hank]

No, I just.

[PFT Commenter]

Was it your phone?

[Big Cat]

It's bad phone.

[Hank]

I can't get to the right game.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay. So what was it?

[Big Cat]

Bill's Steelers.

[PFT Commenter]

Bills, Steelers, bills.

[Big Cat]

170.

[Zach]

Just 171.

[Big Cat]

Pretty good deal.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Interesting first half from Brock. The crazy thing is the Niners still felt like they were in control of the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, they manned him up because Brock.

[Big Cat]

Purdy was throwing interceptions on his terms.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the. The to be up. So we're talking Monday Night Football. The to be up at half after your quarterback throwing three interceptions. And there was a fumble that they did recover, which I still don't understand how they recovered that Christian McCaffrey fumble. It just shows that the Niners are starting, you know, they're good enough that they can overcome those things. The Panthers not ready for primetime. The Panthers were so frustrating to watch in that game because you keep picking the ball off. You had the, the. The one where you were on the 16 yard line and going in and Bryce Young then throws his interception. I was saying in the first half we had a real doo doo, a doo doo football game on our hands where it was just like, let's watch some crazy stupid shit happen. And it did happen in the Niners were the better team.

[Big Cat]

It felt like there was something off with the ball. That's how, that's how often it was getting turned over and just squirting out. That ball was squirting out everywhere last night and, and, and Bryce had a chance. The Panthers took the ball down the field and then he responded with his own doo doo pick.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

It's just terrible. Interception in the end zone on a ball he probably could have and should have run in. He was out in space. There was a guy that probably, I don't think was going to be able to get him if he had just decided to take off. But he threw his dooo pick and then the Ners were like, okay, we're playing some football. We can play some football with you tonight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And yeah, the. It just became like Christian McAffrey fest.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Christian McAffrey was just spamming that. That first drive was. Was almost a service academy drive.

[Big Cat]

It was like, we're going to be safe because Brock is having one of them nights.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And good thing that we've got Christian and we can just, you know, if we're going to throw the ball, let's have it go like three yards in the air to Christian McCaffrey, let him run with it. Let Kittle get the ball across the middle a little bit and just hit some people in the face. And they ended up playing like a pretty conservative game plan from that point on after the third pick. Now, when I watch a game like that, after three interceptions, I don't care if it's a team that I bet on or that I'm rooting for. I want it to keep getting worse.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I wanted. I wanted Brock Purdy to throw five picks in the first half. I wanted Nathan Peterman to be sitting on his couch, nervous that his records were going to get shattered.

[PFT Commenter]

When you. When you see the.

[Zach]

The.

[PFT Commenter]

The third pick get thrown, you're like, oh, man, let's let. We're now. We're now looking at maybe a historic night.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

Because I, I thought. I thought for a second there was like, a chance that Kyle Shannon would be like, hey, like, pulling a goal. He'd be like, Mac Jones, get in there. But the, The Panthers are equally as bad that they never threat. Like, if your quarterback throws three picks like that in the first half, you should be down two scores.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

And they weren't. And I think it's a testament the. The Niners defense, they lost every guy basically at the beginning of the season. They're very young. I think Robert Salah, sorry, Memes is a very good coach, and they're playing some good football. Like, they. They were flying around the field. Bryce Young was also not good, but it was. It was. It was one of those games where I was like, are the Niners. Is this defense kind of turned a corner here where they're. They're now just. And especially Brock Purdy can be better than what he was last night. I do. I do want to shout out this one guy who treated me during the game. PT. Sports talk. He. He was exactly right. He said that the thing about Brock Purdy is he throws the best interceptions because they always feel like they're about to be like, the coolest, biggest play possible. Like, he. He doesn't throw. He doesn't Throw, you know, interceptions at the line of scrimmage. He's, he's going, he's dropping back, he's putting his foot in the ground and he's launching it and you're like, oh, this timing is perfect. It's going to be so sick. And, and usually his interceptions outside of the third one are like very close to being receptions. You know what I mean? It's like two guys standing in the same place in the, in the defensive back gets it. It's not like he threw an interception and there was just one guy, the no. 1. None of his receivers were around him.

[Big Cat]

J.C. horn made a couple really good.

[PFT Commenter]

Plays on the ball, which.

[Big Cat]

That was a big part when he got injured and had to come out for the second half because it seemed like he was, he was just catching everything out there. But yeah, you're right. When Brock Purdy throws a pick, he does a lot of the like, like run forward, jump off the wrong leg. Like he sees something.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Know he's got to get the ball out because there's a big play out there. So you have confidence. You know who was like that too? Taylor Haneke. Taylor would like point downfield, be like, I got you. And then he'd throw the ball to three guys.

[PFT Commenter]

If you could throw the pick out of the TV's immediate window, it's a kind of a good pick because you're taking a shot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, when, when you, it's the picks that are, you know, Joe Flacco's pick against the Patriots on Sunday.

[Big Cat]

That's bad. When it was every linebacker.

[PFT Commenter]

The, the, the, the camera operator does not have to move anything. You can see the, all of the offensive linemen in frame. That's a bad pick.

[Big Cat]

We also had a penis touching gate last night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Does the NFL have a penis touching problem?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, so I, I was asked you. The, the headline on ESPN right now is Juan Jennings pushes Travion morgue in face mask after 49ers victory over Panthers. I don't think that's the story.

[Big Cat]

That's not the story that, you know that meme where it's the media and it's got the camera that's pointed at a guy stabbing somebody and then you zoom out and it's actually the opposite.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And the other guy's trying to stab. That's what's happening with this.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Juan Jennings got punched directly in the dick.

[PFT Commenter]

Directly right.

[Big Cat]

Like, like uppercut in the dick. Like Mortal Kombat Toasty right in the bell end. And credit to him and it wasn't just.

[PFT Commenter]

It looked like, I guess, just he's. His wrist is very taped up, but it looks like almost like a club. He just got him perfectly.

[Big Cat]

I think he got his hand taped up so that he could be better at dick punching.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Now, we saw this in the. In the Cowboys Eagles game, too. You see George Pickens.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

He got his dick grab.

[Big Cat]

He got tackled by his penis. And we need to put into place, you know, illegal contact to the helmet for, for wide receivers as well when they're blocking, when they're running with the ball. That should be. That should be looked at as targeting. But credit to him for not, like, just going wild.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The dude. For doing that, because that was pretty obvious that he did that on purpose. Kyle Shanahan said, yeah, the guy took a cheap shot and hit him in the balls. I was real proud of Juwan for not losing his mind out there. Credit to him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

I would have lost my mind.

[PFT Commenter]

I would have. I would have lost my mind.

[Big Cat]

I would have. Would have fallen to the ground.

[PFT Commenter]

I would have cried. Yeah. I would have been on all fours, you know, putting your ass up, trying to get in that position where you didn't pop it. The bot. Well, yeah. You know, when you get hit really squarely in the balls and you're. And you have to get on all fours and you're kind of. You're kind of popping it. You're kind of shaking it, just trying to. You're almost basically just trying to yoga it out. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I probably. Judging by where that hit, I probably would have understood that I got hit in a place where my balls should be, but it would have missed. And then I would have been like, oh, I need to act like it hit me in my ball so that nobody thinks I have small balls.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then crumpled to the ground.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I, I just realized, like, it's the most meathead thing to say. Like, I'm so straight. The only yoga I do is when I get hit in the nuts. That's how straight I am. It makes me want to puke. Yeah. The only time I've ever been in that pose is when I'm getting hit in the nuts by my boys. What are you gonna say, Hank? Do you have your hand up? Your hand is up, Hank.

[Big Cat]

You've done Pilates. Have you done. Have you done yoga? Yeah.

[Hank]

Good amount of yoga, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

For people who don't, I like yin. For people who skip our ads, which I wish they wouldn't, how would you say that it went this morning? The Start of that. Yeah. For people who skip our ads. Can you give them context?

[Hank]

I needed to have a game time game up and my app was just, you know, stuck on the homepage.

[Memes]

It's early.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm this at 8:50. Guys got flights, Guys got parlays.

[Hank]

How'd your parlay do last night?

[PFT Commenter]

Bad. Whoa, that. That was mean, Hank. All right.

[Hank]

Sucks to suck.

[PFT Commenter]

It's bad feeling, right?

[Big Cat]

Hank, I. I wrote a bunch of.

[Hank]

Your parlay calls it out, right?

[PFT Commenter]

What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

How'd your parlay to just do the.

[Hank]

Game time app to make a mistake and get called out for. It's not a good feeling.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, that's a little different. I would say gambling vers just your job. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Hank, I took your parlays last night. Did your parlays hit.

[Hank]

Do you know the answer to that question? Why the.

[Big Cat]

You asked big cat that. You asked big Cat that genuinely.

[Hank]

I didn't take his parlay, so I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it'. Lie. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know that you would not have asked that question.

[PFT Commenter]

You thought his parlay. Here comes.

[Stavros Halkias]

Probably also took it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. There's no way. Nice try, buddy. We know each other. Know each other too well. Come on.

[Big Cat]

Think about this game time ad at the start of every episode is that it either allows Hank to just like adequately do his job or it just makes Hank so, so angry at us because Zach had the game up and he didn't.

[Hank]

I'm not mad at you guys. I'm really mad at you guys.

[Big Cat]

All right, here's a bit upset.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's a fun fact. It is early. It's so early that I asked Zach how his wake up went this morning. So it's 8:30 in the morning because Zach and Hank, I think Max and memes all have flights this afternoon. So we're trying to get the show done. It's 8:30 in the morning and I said to Zach, what was the alarm situation this morning? Because it's pretty early, like getting up. Zach, what was your response?

[Zach]

I believe my response was just, you're. You're like, how you feeling? I'm feeling good. You're like, it's early. So I just had to follow up and like this is pre show. I thought it was safe. The executive decision would just stay up.

[PFT Commenter]

So you just pulled an all nighter last night.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because you didn't want to risk waking missing the alarm.

[Zach]

I knew I've had like a couple late nights the last few nights and you can't back up in early morning to late Night, it's just a dangerous spot to risk messing up.

[Big Cat]

So I figured you, you just have the latest night.

[Zach]

Yeah. You just, you just delete the night.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Get it out of there. Did you set an alarm just in case?

[Zach]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

And you said.

[Zach]

Okay, that's falling asleep with the thought of like, I'll stay up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And the stay up can, like, reset the sleep schedule sometimes.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's facts.

[Big Cat]

What's the bomb alarm situation like? Have you, have you encountered the neighbor?

[Zach]

I have not. I hope, I honestly, I hope we never cross paths because it's going to be uncomfortable and I'm going to know that she hates me now because probably.

[PFT Commenter]

The alarm, but that's.

[Zach]

And I mean, I found out she might be the building manager, so, like.

[PFT Commenter]

We'Re in a spot. Boss lady.

[Zach]

I think so. I think she is.

[Big Cat]

Do you check your mail?

[Zach]

Do I. Yeah. No, never. It's always other people's mail in apartments. So I, I don't check it just because, like everyone else's but mine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's true.

[PFT Commenter]

And if you don't, maybe you're opening the wrong mailbox.

[Zach]

I got a key to it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

No, he's right though. Like, if you just do get to an apartment. Yeah.

[Zach]

And like, if you don't check it, you don't owe anybody anything.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[Zach]

If you open that letter, you owe.

[PFT Commenter]

Something with that you. So the.

[Big Cat]

He's right.

[PFT Commenter]

He's absolutely right.

[Big Cat]

Like, I, I've been fighting a, a month long battle against L.L. bean in which I owe them, I think now, A$60 in, in like delivery fees or return fees. And I had no idea that I owed them this money until recently. And now it's like, past due, past due, past due. I owe you a dollar sixty. I'm not paying it. I decided I wasn't going to pay it because, number one, I didn't know that I owed them that money for like, actually it's from last Christmas. So I've owed him for like 12 months. Then I got on the phone with them. You know what they said? They said, we'll wipe it off, sir. Oh, hell yeah, forget about it. So I just. So it's an effective strategy to just delay, delay, delay, and then ultimately they'll be like, yeah, okay, you win.

[Zach]

I think that's the right move. And very. And also on EL Bean's part, well.

[Big Cat]

Done, well done to them. They'll be like, okay, sir, you've got tremendous male discipline. We do not want any part of that smoke that you have for us. So keep that up.

[PFT Commenter]

I just, I don't look at mail, but I also know it's like that situation. Remember when Dwight got fired in the office and then everything fell apart? Like, my wife is just like, I. I think that I actually am funding the city of Chicago with. With my red light cam because I just. I get multiple on the way to work every day, so she just pays those. So yeah, if I didn't open, I don't open my mail. But I know someone opens my mail, so I'm okay.

[Zach]

Yeah, you're just running everything.

[PFT Commenter]

It's not even like it's. I'm stuck on one. It's red light cams where if you get even like a little bit in the middle, you know, you get banged. And then two. There's some speed. They have speed trap ones too, where if you go 36 and a 30, you get busted. Yeah, 36 in a 30 is not that. That's like stepping on the gas a little bit.

[Big Cat]

Here's the problem with Chicago and the red light cameras. Because I'm in. I'm in the same spot. My car ended up getting towed like three months ago because of all these tickets. Yeah. It's a city that culturally celebrates and demands that four people make a left hand turn as the light turns red always. And if you don't, then you get honked at. I'm used to like one or two cars doing it in Chicago. It's usually like three or four.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta go.

[Big Cat]

You have to do it. Culturally. It's a very important thing to the city to make that left hand turn. And then they also ding you because there's red light cameras everywhere that take the picture of your license plate if you make that left hand turn. So everyone in the city just owes money to the government, which probably goes to UAE or whoever. They sold the red light cameras.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. Yeah, I'm. I'm. My, my, my. Yeah. They sold all the. All the parking tick. The worst deal ever done. The. All the parking meters were sold to the Middle East. Like. Yeah, it was like 15 years ago. I came even more like so stupid. So stupid. Like, how could this.

[Jerry]

How could.

[PFT Commenter]

How could this possibly be something we'd want to keep the money from in.

[Big Cat]

The future in perpetuity for the. For the remainder of the parking meter's life?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm. I'm basically my. My commute to work is. I'm like Sonic getting hit with his coins falling out. It's. There's like four different spots along my route that I get hit and My coins fall out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Are you saying there's automated speed cameras? You're not even getting hit by a police officer.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's just. It's just there's some, like, school zones and it's just. It's. I'm not speeding. I know. People are gonna be like, holy shit, you're speeding. Every single time. It might be speeding. Every single time I look at the. The. The mail. Well, it's already open for me. It's 36 in a 31. 1 mile and. Okay, Hank. All right. I should have. I should have just told him about the game time. I should have warned him. I should have warned him.

[Big Cat]

Hank's so big. Cat's so straight, he doesn't even look at the mail.

[PFT Commenter]

He's taking. You're taking the side of the cops.

[Hank]

You know, you just described speeding.

[Zach]

Speeding should be.

[PFT Commenter]

Speeding is not six miles an hour. That's not. What's the speed limit?

[Zach]

That's flow of traffic.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

Losing argument. Big cat.

[PFT Commenter]

Abort.

[Big Cat]

Abort. Hank's guy, he's got his teeth sunk in right now.

[PFT Commenter]

One game time out of it. We need to bring it back. Hank is.

[Hank]

We need a call back.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I mean, some people.

[Big Cat]

Hey, what. What. What percentage of the blame pie do you put on yourself?

[Hank]

100.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, okay. What about us?

[PFT Commenter]

There's a little on me.

[Big Cat]

It seems like you're. You're deflecting a little.

[Hank]

No, it's 100% on me. But I. I can be a little upset that my friend went out of his way to expose me for being bad at my job.

[PFT Commenter]

That's not bad at your job.

[Big Cat]

That's a very small part of your job.

[PFT Commenter]

It's minuscule.

[Big Cat]

It does happen every one mile per.

[PFT Commenter]

Hour over the speed limit of your job. Okay, should we do real quick. I mean, college football. Do you want to say a jmu? Will. We're taping this early, so we don't know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we don't know you guys are in. I know I'm assuming that we're going to get fucked. According to like, espn, fpi, all that stuff. Every computer has JMU in the playoffs. Every computer. If you go back to the BCS computer from however long ago. When did they get rid of BCS? That was 2012.

[PFT Commenter]

12.

[Big Cat]

So, yeah, something like that. But if you look at those models, if you look at the Sagarin models, that would have us as like a four or five point favorite over. Over teams like Tulane or unt. All the computers say that JMU should be in, but the committee has made it pretty clear that they just have a hard on for the American. So whoever wins the American, I'm just assuming, is going to get into the playoff. I do think that it, it feels a little bit personal that Tom Forelli keeps going out of his way to say JMU doesn't have a chance. Well, and they should. It feels personal, Tom. It something so inconsequential as who gets to be the sacrificial lamb from the group of five. You can just throw me a bone and maybe just don't like write full articles about how, hey, all you JMU fans, you're getting your hopes up for nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that is, that is. You don't have to. We could, we could know that. You don't have to say.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know, there is one voter that has jmu, I think ranked number eight or nine overall in the country.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

It's that same guy that we talked about from last time. Shout out that guy out in Wyoming or whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

But Tom also might just be dealing with the fact that. Would you say, would you say that. That Luke Fickle's time at Wisconsin hasn't gone well so far?

[Big Cat]

It has not gone well the last November. November's great.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Yeah. Which I'm, I'm back on the trade, so this is not an anti Luke Fickle thing. Thing I'm about to say. But maybe Tom is dealing with the fact that. Fun fact, Luke Fickles never lost to Illinois.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's a fun fact. Well, that is a very fun fact. I, I think that this.

[PFT Commenter]

So he's in a bad mood.

[Big Cat]

Tom Fornelli's Don Quixote like quest against James Madison goes back several weeks. It predates the loss to.

[PFT Commenter]

But he was especially upset on Saturday.

[Big Cat]

He probably was. So he's probably lashing out against this show at large. But yeah, I just, I don't think that JMU is going to. I don't think that they're going to be in the playoff tonight. I don't think that they will be for the rest of the year. I think that we had a good win against the Cougars. They're a good team. They're a feisty team. Ole Miss had trouble with them. UVA had trouble with them. So yeah, I just.

[PFT Commenter]

In North Texas, they're trying to get north to prop it up. North Texas. North Texas also just demolishing people.

[Big Cat]

Their offense is really good.

[PFT Commenter]

So good.

[Big Cat]

That's the shitty thing is like I have no, I have no hate in my heart for North Texas. I have no hate in my heart for Tulane, although their own coach said that they're not a very good football team and they should not be ranked. I have no hate in my heart for the Memphis's, for the navies of the world, for the USFs of the world. But I just, I've reached the point where I'm, I'm kind of giving up right now.

[PFT Commenter]

I also am worried that we're getting to a point where there's going to be. Because, you know, they're, I think they're meeting to decide if there's going to be a format change. I think they're going to, I think if the, if the G5 team doesn't put in a good effort this year, they're going to try to kick out the G5 team, which should suck. That'd be a bummer.

[Big Cat]

That would suck. I hope that doesn't happen. It's kind of cool to, to even be talking about it. It's kind of surreal to say that JMU is even in the fight to make the College Football Playoff. But I, I, I am also looking realistically at the future and I feel like, feel like your coach is probably going to be somewhere else next season and if it's a great school like, like Penn State, Max, if he's the Penn State coach or even ucla, I think that that would cement JMU as being the number one destination for any up and coming coach.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If they want to get paid, which is a good spot to be in. But it does suck having to reload. And now, now they're coming at me for some money and then people are going to be mad at me for losing coaches. I can't, I can't pay.

[Hank]

Just tell them you called L. Bean to not pay a dollar.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I can't pay Bob Chesney $7 million a year. I just can't do it right now. I'm in a, I'm in a legal dispute against. You're tangled against men's outdoor companies. It's not in the cards.

[PFT Commenter]

You're, you're in a web. You're in a web of fleeces and duck boots.

[Big Cat]

I am, I'm getting fleeced.

[PFT Commenter]

By the way, just another thing about North Texas. I, I have been betting them. I, I would tell anyone that enjoys offense and watching crazy football. North Texas is, is the one to go with because I, I took their team total over. It was, I think it was like 41 and a half on Saturday and they had, they scored their first touchdown with, with 45 seconds left. In the first quarter. So I was like, I'm fucked. They end up with 56. They just rip off. They just score, score, score. It's crazy.

[Big Cat]

They are a fun team, which is why I can't bring myself to hate them. Big Cat. I got. I heard a little rumor yesterday. I don't know if it's true or if it's going to happen, but it's being floated out there. So James Franklin, one of the first things he's trying to do is coach of Virginia Tech. He's trying to get out of the game against James Madison next year.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

We have him scheduled. We beat him last time we played him. No big deal. But I. He's trying to get out of that game. One of the schools that's being floated whispered amongst certain circles in college football to replace that game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Could potentially be Wisconsin, James Madison.

[Memes]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, in Madison.

[Big Cat]

I would assume it would be in Madison.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. We'd have to go.

[Big Cat]

I assume it. We would have to go to the game right now. If you look at. At the projections, JMU would actually be favored against Wisconsin right now.

[Hank]

Well, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This year.

[Big Cat]

This year. This year, yeah. Yeah, this year. Next year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You have a borderline playoff team and we've won four games.

[Big Cat]

Could be a different story now. I was talking to Ebo about it.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. That's not how. You can't say right now that there were going to be different teams.

[Big Cat]

Going to be different teams, probably a different coach for us. If JMU beat Wisconsin, how mad would you be?

[PFT Commenter]

It would depend on what the rest. It would depend on how it looked and who our quarterback was. I mean, that there's a lot. There's a lot up there because that's.

[Big Cat]

That's the true definition of. There's no lose for me in that game.

[PFT Commenter]

No, there's no lose for you in that game. No, it's. It would be. If you'd asked. If you'd asked me this, like, 10 years ago, I'd be like, I'd be devastated. I cannot believe that happened. The gap has gotten a lot smaller. I mean, Wisconsin's been not good for the last five years. I have high hopes for next year. I think that the way they finish this season, they can get the ax against Minnesota. It could be good momentum. So it kind of depends, like, what our transfer portal look like, what our quarterback looks like. All that stuff. You'd have to ask me, like, the day before the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. If. If that. If that game does end up happening, I want to make a Tattoo bet, but against J.J. watt. And if JMU wins, he has to get a big cat tattoo.

[PFT Commenter]

Big Cat Williams.

[Big Cat]

Big Cat Williams.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see the. Did you see the 670 the score clip?

[Big Cat]

I did see that.

[PFT Commenter]

That was quite something.

[Big Cat]

That was funny.

[PFT Commenter]

So for people who don't know what we're talking about, J.J. watt on Sunday gave me a shout out at the. During the Bears Steelers game. He was like, the Bears are down so many linebackers, they're gonna have to call Erlacher Big Cat. Now, there was a player who played for the Bears, James Big Cat Williams. So one person, Dwight Sox Dave was like, oh, that's who he's talking about. The context is JJ and I were texting during the game. Like, I was texting him at halftime, being like, you know, you're doing a great job. Like, I actually think he's really, really good at announcing. 670 score. Had James Big Cat Williams on the show on Monday being like, what'd you think about that shout out? You have to be so oblivious to just. Or. Or hate. You got to hate us so much to be like, Barstool could never be in the picture here.

[Big Cat]

Well, the funniest part about that whole exchange was the fact that you were probably the one person most responsible for anything in White Sox Dave's life. And he's sitting next to you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You.

[Big Cat]

You host a Bears podcast with him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he's sitting next to you. And JJ shouts. He's like, he wasn't talking about.

[PFT Commenter]

He wasn't talking about you. He wasn't talking about you. I do love he White Sox Dave made it all right. Because he got me. He. He baked me banana bread for victory Monday. And it was really good banana bread. He's actually a really good banana bread baker.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy.

[PFT Commenter]

But it was just very funny because I do not care. It's totally innocuous that, like, this. This clip exists now. It's just more like either your head's in the sand or you just hate us so much that you're like, we'll never acknowledge Barstool to the point that we're going to have an entire segment where we just got it wrong.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but I love it, but yeah. Jj, get the big Cat Williams.

[PFT Commenter]

Here comes Hank on the side of the 670 score. And the police. Go ahead.

[Big Cat]

What does gas say?

[PFT Commenter]

What do you got? What do you got? No, no. Come on. Come on. I wish if I could go back in time, the two. First thing I would do, Hank, is.

[Memes]

At his best at this on these shows. So I like exactly what has happened so far to start this show.

[PFT Commenter]

First thing I would do if I go back in time is I would kill baby Hitler. Second thing I do is not bring up the game time ad read again.

[Hank]

I actually.

[PFT Commenter]

I might flip those.

[Memes]

What happened in the game time ad read.

[PFT Commenter]

Shut up.

[Memes]

I like Hank in these moments. He's good. It's good podcasting.

[Hank]

Like, the fact that there is a big cat Williams.

[Big Cat]

Like, it's.

[Hank]

Of course, I don't think they were, like, slighting you.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no. But like Dwight.

[Hank]

So Dave was dumb for saying that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I don't think 670the score. I can see a world where, like, old school radio people.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Williams, they know we exist.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Any. I mean, big offensive line. So that does. If he was a linebacker. I totally agree with you. Yeah.

[Hank]

Okay. Yeah, I didn't know that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Either way, it was very funny because I just. I kind of, you know, we haven't had people outright hate us or just ignore us to the point where, like, it felt very old school where traditional media would just pretend we do not exist at all, which, I don't know. I got. Got a little excited about it. Like when coward would up our names on purpose. Yeah, it just kind of gives you. It gives you a little pep in the step. Like a little back to, like, the underdog, you know?

[Hank]

Top sports podcasts.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we don't get those.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I like having a little chip on my shoulder. We need. We need to. To have some more rat poison around.

[Big Cat]

I mean, we got another. We got another podcast that's coming for our ass. Who watch your ass. Because it's a podcast that's available exclusively on X, the Everything app.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Rushmore. Oh, yeah, the Rushmore podcast. So it's. It's a group of guys that sit around, they debate the top four. All these different cats.

[Hank]

No, it's like the biggest industry plant podcast.

[Big Cat]

It's like Ari Manual.

[PFT Commenter]

It was gonna hurt me if Edelman was in.

[Big Cat]

No, it's like, Ari Emanuel.

[Hank]

They have the greatest guest list of all time.

[Big Cat]

Al Michaels was on the most recent one.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's like.

[Big Cat]

It's like.

[Hank]

I don't know who. I thought it was Brady's podcast.

[Big Cat]

Well, this is Elon. It's Elon Bucks. He's trying to make podcasts on X, the Everything app, a thing. And so he's. He's paying money out his. To people.

[PFT Commenter]

Can I say it's kind of up that, like, you know, really Famous people get podcasts and they can just get their own friends on and they don't really have to book guests. It's kind of up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're a really famous person to start a podcast, you should have to interview regular Produced by Pat McAfee.

[Big Cat]

What does that even mean? You know what regular people like us like, if you, if you want to play the game on expert mode as a celebrity, you should be a celebrity with no friends.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like I have zero connections. I'm an to everybody, but I'm gonna try to get guests.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They just got, they got the host Emanuel. He knows every famous person.

[Hank]

Michael, Stephen A. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If you get a call from Ari Emanuel, hey, will you come on my podcast? You like in your contract. You have to say yes to that.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Also, I love, I love how Elon put himself in the graphic too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And McAfee's producing what a producer credit.

[Big Cat]

I mean good for him. Wasn't that beak. But yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

We've been, we've been weaving some idiot jazz. We still are technically talking college football.

[Big Cat]

We invented the, the concept of listing your top four favorite things.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, we did. I have one last thing about college football. Then we'll do Hot Seat, Cool Throne, then talk some NFL. I don't. There's gonna maybe be a problem for a two loss team here. There's gonna be. There's some issues that are coming ahead. Like even if like Michigan beats Ohio State, the, you know, there's the combo of Vandy, Utah, Michigan, Alabama might not be safe. There's like one of these teams. I think it will all get sorted out. But if all the favorites end up winning on rivalry week, which is never really usually happens, you could have some quality 2 loss teams be on the outside of the College Football playoff.

[Big Cat]

Is Ole Miss in trouble?

[PFT Commenter]

Ole Miss, if they lose, I think they're out.

[Big Cat]

I think so too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And because I think they, they also don't know what's going to happen with.

[Big Cat]

Lane and the, the ACC doomsday scenario is still in play right now where it looks like everything could get fucked up if it's really. If UVA loses to Tech. That's the big one. That's a big domino.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a big domino.

[Big Cat]

And then yeah, you've got Miami and Pitt. That could get bad for Miami. Yeah. It's going to be a crazy weekend. I do like having some of the historic rivalries played on Black Friday. I know that I said that. I thought Texas A and M was going to demolish Texas on Friday. I had a lot of people very upset with me for that, to the point where now I'm rethinking my stance on. I'm getting bullied out of my. Well, A and M will slaughter Texas. Take.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's the thing about Texas A and M. I think they're a very good team. They somehow got the greatest luck of the draw in scheduling possible. They have owned. They have not played a single team in the top eight of the sec. Right. And it's not their fault, and I'm not blaming them. I. Again, I think they're a really good team, but there is a little bit of unknown. They played a couple of those teams when they still were thought of differently, like lsu, but it's crazy to look at their schedule and how it broke their way. And they didn't have to play Bama, they didn't have to play Ole Miss. They didn't have to play Georgia.

[Big Cat]

Good against.

[PFT Commenter]

They look good against Notre Dame. Yeah, no, I'm. They're a good team. I'm just saying this is the first time they have to play a team in that top eight of the sec.

[Big Cat]

I think my problem is I'm. You know, you fall in love with a team sometimes for certain reasons. And the second half of the game against South Carolina made me fall in love with Texas A and M. The fact that they were able to come back.

[PFT Commenter]

We're not giving credit for comebacks, but I.

[Big Cat]

You kind of have to give credit to that state trooper, but we're not.

[PFT Commenter]

Giving credit to comebacks anymore. That's true. We said that as a podcast. We're no longer giving credit for comebacks.

[Big Cat]

That was a super impressive loss by South Carolina.

[PFT Commenter]

Great, great lead they gained.

[Big Cat]

I don't think that Michigan has a chance this week.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I. I disagree.

[Big Cat]

You disagree?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You think that Ryan Day is going to go into this. You think he's going to do the thing where he's like, I'm going to be Michigan. I'm going to.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, I think they'll do. I don't know the status for Jeremiah Love. So Carnell Tate and Jeremiah Love missed. They missed last game. They're. They're. It's kind of up in the air. I think everyone assumes they'll play. I just think that if Michigan. If Michigan keeps it close in the beginning of the game or even gets out to a lead, I think Ryan Day. I think Ohio State's gonna win. But I'm taking Michigan plus ten and.

[Big Cat]

A half, I think. Yeah. I mean, that, that's a lot of points.

[Memes]

What you were saying Jeremiah Love right there.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, sorry.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Jeremiah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Jeremiah love is the heism. I meant Jeremiah Smith but Jeremiah my love Heisman. You know algorithm put this next to Siri. Let me hear, hear. Have your Alexa hear me say Jeremiah love should win the Heisman and then get it in the algorithm.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that amount of tweets, by the way that I've been fed on the algorithm since I started tweeting about it is hilarious. I've just been smashing retweet every if you when the algorithm is so powerful. I honestly think no one's talked about anything but Jeremiah Love for Heisman.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Since I talked about it.

[Big Cat]

I agree. I think that Ohio State won't cover but what is the weather?

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's be cold. It might be a little windy or it might be a little cold.

[Big Cat]

Are we getting snow?

[PFT Commenter]

It's going to be man football.

[Big Cat]

If we get snow, then all bets are off. Yeah, we might get snow.

[PFT Commenter]

I think I agreeing day. There's he's, he's, he's going to pucker up like it's not that he's going to go in with the same game plan if it's tight, you know, the mental edge is going to go Michigan's way. I think Sharon Moore's not a very good coach, so that's the only problem. But yeah, we're excited for rivalry week. Okay, let's do hot seat Cool Throne and then we will get to our weekend preview. We're going to start with all the Thanksgiving games. Hot Seat Cool Throne is brought to you by our friends at Body armor. This segment is brought to you by Body Armor Flash iv. Zach, can we get a Body Armor Flash iv? Body Armor Flash IV. Flash IV delivers faster, longer lasting hydration with over 2000mg electrolytes. No artificial dyes, flavors or sweeteners like those other drinks. So whether you're training, traveling, or just feeling the heat, work hard, hydrate hard with Body Armor Flash IV and grab yours today at your local 711 convenience store. Body Armor Flash IV, the great drink, especially if you're feeling a little bit little down. Need some electrolytes after a long Thanksgiving. Body Armor Flash iv. Thank you, Zach. I am drinking tropical punch.

[Hank]

Henry, my hot seat is the New York Post.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, what happened?

[Hank]

They inaccurately put up a photo. It's a nice photo of Jerry OConnell, Rebecca Romaine and his daughters. New York Post captioned it John Rebecca Romaine, John Stamos oh, he's still getting cooked. Take a selfie with their daughters. He was also with John Stamos.

[PFT Commenter]

I saw that.

[Hank]

He did, like, if I can change, you can change. We can all change. I saw that.

[Big Cat]

That feels like it was intentional by the.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The Post. We stand with Jerry. What do you want us to do, Jerry? We'll fight someone for you. You know we will. I think we need to get a good. Like a good old fashioned enemy we can go after on Jerry's behalf, because I think we're getting to the point of the fantasy football season where there may be a little too much infighting. He's kind of coming at us.

[Big Cat]

There's a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

We need to. We need a common enemy.

[Big Cat]

New York Post is a good one. Unless they're writing something good about us.

[PFT Commenter]

So let us know. Jerry, we love you, so we want you. We want to. We want to maybe come back together as a squad or just come watch some football with us on a Sunday. That'd be nice. Be fun.

[Big Cat]

It's probably not allowed.

[PFT Commenter]

What are you doing, Hank?

[Hank]

Oh, grabbing my cool throne. We spent too much time talking about the wrong knickknacks on. On this show.

[PFT Commenter]

Knickknacks?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Patty Wax.

[Hank]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Give a dog. Give a dog a Hank.

[Big Cat]

Give a dog a little Hank. He woke me up this morning with little Hank in his mouth again. It's just adorable how much. How much Blake loves you.

[Hank]

We have spent too much time talking about those dumb dolls that probably won't sell, but we have not talked about if you don't get one of the dog toys.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, he said it won't sell.

[Memes]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

So they'll be available.

[Hank]

You're right. Well, you can get a dog toy, and if you actually want a nice gift of the podcast, we have these. Mount Rushmore. Max just assaulted. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't speak for me. Thank you.

[Big Cat]

Max.

[PFT Commenter]

The paperweights.

[Hank]

Paperweights and low man trophies.

[PFT Commenter]

These are awesome.

[Jerry]

Yeah, Hank kind of looks like Gaz on there.

[PFT Commenter]

I kind of look. What do I look like, stud? No, I don't. It does kind of look like gas in there.

[Big Cat]

Memes. Zoom in. Zoom in real quick.

[PFT Commenter]

These are sick. Yeah. So we're gonna have our Black Friday sale.

[Big Cat]

Oh, shoot. I didn't bring up the game. I'm mad. I'm at a big cat because I didn't do my job promoting game time this morning. Dang it. Okay, back to you.

[Memes]

Is that Southern accent?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Southern.

[PFT Commenter]

Southern.

[Big Cat]

That's Henry.

[PFT Commenter]

Henry.

[Big Cat]

I'm Henry. I'M a Henry. I didn't know to look up the game because we only do it every single time. We do a podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

We got, we get we now I'm.

[Big Cat]

Angry and I'm lashing out a little bit. Just a little teensy bit. All right, back to you, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

So by all this stuff, we're going have new merch. I think people have been asking for.

[Memes]

Those cam really sick hats too.

[PFT Commenter]

That are sick hats. Camo sweatshirts, the premium hoodie that we.

[Big Cat]

Got lots of premium hoodies.

[PFT Commenter]

So we got some new stuff for everyone. And the Hank doll. What? And also Stella blue. We're going to be. We got some new sweatshirts. We're going to have discount on all the coffee, maybe a golden mug. Tune in everything. Everything's going to be great. Okay. Pft.

[Big Cat]

Your hot seat culture on my hot seat is Cordell Stewart, Denard Robinson, all these offensive weapons, all these athletes that play the quarterback position but are also elite at at pass catching. Your Julian Edelman's of the world because there's new sheriff in town. Ooh, Jamis. Yeah, Jamis. I looked up these stats for Jameis. He is third in the NFL in terms of yards per pass. He is first in the NFL for yards per route run. He is third in the NFL for his percentage of carries going for 10 plus yards.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

He's doing it all. He's offered to play tight end.

[PFT Commenter]

I love it.

[Big Cat]

Once Jackson dart comes back, I saw this quote. I thought it was James joking around. Then I watched the video of him offering to play tight end and he's dead serious.

[PFT Commenter]

That's awesome.

[Big Cat]

He says, I like to consider myself an athlete. I believe I can make plays like that for this team. If I need to play tight end, I can. I'll do whatever it is that's required for this team to have success. He was dead serious.

[PFT Commenter]

I love this.

[Big Cat]

And he is. He's the new slash.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, let's get him out there.

[Big Cat]

And then my cool throne is the Pittsburgh Pirates. Because the Pittsburgh Pirates made an offer to to Josh Naylor.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

In free agency. The Pittsburgh Pirates famously have not signed a big name free agent, I believe, since 2012. So they made an offer per Jeff Passon. Josh Naylor did not end up signing with the Pirates. He ended up signing with the Mariners. But then the report came out that the Pirates did not actually make an offer to Josh Naylor. The Pirates just leaked information saying that they were making an offer. So their offer to Josh Naylor was simply leaking news that they were making an offer to him.

[PFT Commenter]

What pieces.

[Big Cat]

Just to keep their fans happy. When in reality, Naylor pretty much agreed to re. Sign with the Mariners right after the World Series. The Pirates were never part of the equation whatsoever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But they were like, hey, just so you know, hey, fans, we're making that. We're trying to spend money. No one wants to take our money. We're making an effort. We contacted all the right people to let them know that we were thinking about it. Don't be mad at us. We're trying. And it's the most Pittsburgh Pirate story ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Bob Nutting. You're a piece of, dude. You're on our list big time. That is such a. They just want to. That's so frustrating. I. I hate that so much. These guys are such pieces of.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they really are. They really hate their fans. Yeah, they actively hate. They. They look at their fans like idiots. Hey, you guys want to buy some 500 bricks? Cool. We're just going to smash them in a year. Hope that's all right with you.

[PFT Commenter]

They're. They're the worst. And. And when Paul Skeens leaves, which he's gonna. It's. And they're gonna be like, oh, we can't afford them. Oh, we could. We couldn't afford to build around them. They're the worst. Fucking hate them. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Here's the quote from Ken Rosenthal and Evan Dre Lick. The Pirates never actually made an offer to Naylor. According to people briefed on the discussions, just two weeks after the conclusion of the World Series, Naylor reached an agreement with the Mariners. Five year contract worth an average of 18.5 million. The deal happened so quickly, the Pirates did not get seriously involved, but they, but they want you to think that they did. Yeah, because that, to them is as good as signing a free agent.

[PFT Commenter]

Absolutely. It does in their head. Okay. My hot seat is the Maui Invitational because we're in feast week and this players ERA tournament has, has completely cannibalized the Maui. And I understand it's probably hard to get to Hawaii, but the Maui used to be. The Maui means something to me. It's something special. They're playing in a high school gym in Maui. The rims are soft. It's. It's like a core memory of, of Thanksgiving week. But now you got the, the teams there. No knock on the teams, but they're not. You know, it used to be a. Kansas was there or Kentucky or UConn was there. Now we have Boise and, And Washington State. Again, no knock on these teams because they showed up but it's because this Players era. Is that what it's called? Players era?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Tournament. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The players sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

There's not even a real tournament.

[Big Cat]

It's the Players ERA Festival.

[PFT Commenter]

It sucks. It's not a bracket. They just do it on pool play. And I hate it. I hate it. So they've taken away and no one's in the stands there. Feast week used to mean something, man.

[Big Cat]

Would you like it better if during the Players era Festival the coaches just wore the Hawaiian shirts?

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's still not. I need. When. When we. When I tune into college basketball in these four days stretch, in this four day stretch, I need them playing in a room that is. That holds like 500 people. I need them in the ballroom, in the. In Baja Mar. I need them. Yeah. I need to see the Atlantis. And people, you know, I need to see a water slide when we come back from commercial. It's bullshit. So fuck the Players era, whoever created it. I hate you.

[Big Cat]

The reason I don't like it is.

[PFT Commenter]

Because unless it was Fox.

[Big Cat]

This was my bad. This is my favorite. This used to be my favorite Big cat's favorite week of the year.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And now it's.

[PFT Commenter]

It's now.

[Big Cat]

Now it's not anymore. Because I can tell it's no longer his favorite favorite week of the year.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it's. It's. It's down on the. The depth chart of favorite week of the year. The Atlantic.

[Memes]

The battle for Atlantis also got.

[PFT Commenter]

I know. That's what I'm saying.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, it used to be Maui and Atlantis.

[Memes]

That was it.

[PFT Commenter]

Those were the things and those were the tournaments. And now they just threw everyone in in a sterile environment with no one there in Vegas. And they ruined the whole fucking thing. It sucks. Fix it.

[Big Cat]

Fix Looks like it was founded by a guy named Seth Berger from Players Era Ever Wonder Studio. And Seth Berger, there he is. He is the man.

[PFT Commenter]

Fuck you, burger stupid. He said that sucks. All right. My. My cool throne is meeting chicks because we talked about Bill Ackman.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The other day. And Aubrey Huff, who is. I think his brain might be just gone.

[Big Cat]

Alpha male.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, alpha male. He came up with a better. Can I meet you and Zach? I want you to try this one. You ready for it?

[Zach]

Yes, sir.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, fellas, next time you go up to a woman at a bar, do this. I've done this countless times, and it works. Nine times out of ten, walk up to the bar and stand confidently next to her. Order your drink from the bartender and immediately look into her eyes and don't Break eye contact until she does. While looking into her soul, shout out to the bartender confidently and please, my good sir, get this little temptress whatever she's drinking. So you following? You're getting her a drink?

[Zach]

I'm following so far.

[PFT Commenter]

Introduce yourself in a seductive and deep, confident tone which intrigues her sexually, proving you're a confident man, not afraid to ask for what he wants. Then make an offhand remark which should make zero sense given the situation. Her curiosity is now peaked. Like you could do that.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

When the bartender delivers the drinks, ask him for a napkin and a pen. While you're writing your name and number on the napkin, speak these words in your best James Bond impression, which should be spoken seductively, slowly, calmly, mysteriously, and with a touch of cocky arrogance. Nice to meet you, sweet tits. And thank you for the drink. I'll be sure to get the next one when you meet me later at the bar. I'm headed to just slide the napkin to her while graciously letting the bartender know to put her your drink on her tab, then simply walk away. Leaving the bar sounds like a dick move, but you'll be amazed how many times you'll get a text wondering which bar she should meet you at. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. You ready for that?

[Zach]

Do I have to say sweet tits?

[PFT Commenter]

I think. I think the sweet. Sweet is mandatory.

[Big Cat]

The most important part.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it's the most important part that one's got.

[Zach]

There's a lot of checkboxes on that one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you got. And you had to basically trick this woman into buying you a drink.

[Big Cat]

Now, Aubrey Huff wouldn't happen to be.

[PFT Commenter]

Divorced Woody, like, probably multiple times.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Who would have seen that coming?

[PFT Commenter]

No, yeah, he's. He's just fighting with people online, just getting upset. I feel like he was, like, not very outspoken when he's playing, and then he just became that. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Yeah, I think he just got addicted to posting. Yeah, I think he. He might be back on that speed. Oh, he was a big time Adderall guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He filed for divorce on your birthday in 2012.

[Big Cat]

It looks like he's filed a couple times.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

The sweet tits Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

You got this.

[Zach]

That's gonna be a tough one to pull off, guys. I don't know if I got that in my bag.

[PFT Commenter]

You got this sweet. High as a kite during the team's 2010 victory as you struggle with the drug she uses. Performance dancing. Okay.

[Big Cat]

He would take up to 100 milligrams of Adderall oh, my God. That's. He must have been just non stop.

[PFT Commenter]

That's so much.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's right. I remember this. He was the. The rally thong guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

He told everybody that he wore a rally thong.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't want to speculate.

[Stavros Halkias]

On a.

[Big Cat]

Man'S sexual proclivities, so I'm not going to speculate.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. That was good of you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

100 milligrams is like.

[Big Cat]

But we can all speculate.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a lot.

[Memes]

That's insane.

[PFT Commenter]

That's insane. 100 milligrams, you're just. You're on the moon.

[Big Cat]

I'm.

[Memes]

I think I'm prescribed 15.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And it's like, I can't even. I can't imagine. I can't imagine how much much.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you. You just don't even.

[Zach]

He's seeing the world in like, 4D operating tasks.

[PFT Commenter]

You'll be so dehydrated and just.

[Big Cat]

Oh, skinny. Now. I. I don't want to tell Aubrey Huff how to pick up women at a bar. It seems like he's cleaning up and very happy with his. His love life. But when an easier way to be just to invade Iran and then kidnap the women from the country and then bring them back here and then make them marry you. Yes, he thought about that.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty easy.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he actually did. Yeah. That was his advice in January 2020, was to do that. So he's. He's evolving.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This is the kinder, gentler Aubrey Huff.

[PFT Commenter]

He's. He's actually kind of a. Now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, now he's. He's just like making.

[PFT Commenter]

Now he's changed, bro.

[Big Cat]

He's stealing drinks from women instead of kidnapping them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

So that's good.

[PFT Commenter]

You got soft on us. Pussification of America. Aubrey Hoff is just calling him sweet tits. Yeah, Zach.

[Zach]

My cool throne this week could be. Some could interpret. Interpret this as cool. Some could interpret this as a little bit warmer. But we have declared this is your hot seat first.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Zach]

Oh, my goodness. This. This hot seat could be interpreted a little cool, a little warm.

[PFT Commenter]

That's.

[Zach]

That's why the lines get a little blurred. But the booth has initiated holiday break on the boot diet.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yes. Well deserved. Well deserved, boys.

[Big Cat]

Mission accomplished.

[Zach]

Full initiated holiday break.

[Memes]

I'm going on the big O.

[Jerry]

It's official.

[PFT Commenter]

I love the holiday. I do this. I love it because I do it all the time where I start a diet, like somewhere around early November, and then Thanksgiving week comes. You're like, I can't. I gotta. I Gotta take a break from this for the next month and a half. I've, I've put in a hard, like, 10 days. We gotta, we gotta change, so we gotta go back. So you guys are break, you're on.

[Zach]

Break for the record. The, the pound, Any weight gained will be documented and then subtracted from the final weight goal. These pounds are outside of the, of the challenge.

[Big Cat]

That's fair.

[PFT Commenter]

So what was the total.

[Memes]

Pretty sure I've gained weight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. What was the total loss?

[Zach]

I'm up right now, but.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Memes]

But I'm going on. I'm, I'm taking the plunge. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.

[PFT Commenter]

So when you do it. So are you gonna restart the, the diet in the booth? Because then you could just be a hero, Max.

[Memes]

Yeah, no, I think I'm, I, I'm worried about losing too much weight.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's an issue.

[Memes]

Yeah, no, we're gonna, we're gonna go, we're gonna go through this journey together, and we're gonna, we're gonna figure out the peaks and valleys of what happens when you take the big O.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

What's up?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, if you got, like, super skinny, that'd be fucked up. No, I, I, I'll, you'll stop. It'll be fun.

[Memes]

If I do get super skinny, it'll be fun for me to, like, try and put on weight. It'll be so easy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

What size shirt is too small? Like, what size do you get into? You were like, I gotta cut this. No more, no more big O. I.

[Memes]

I, I mean, you an xl. Even an xl I think is too small. I just need to look, feel, look good in a 2XL.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that's basically, I'm a 2XL. I could go to an XL if I could lose some weight. If I ever. I mean, a large. I don't, that's, that's a chat.

[Memes]

I've been large since I remember I used to be large in the eighth grade.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

I was like, oh, yeah, this is, this is good.

[PFT Commenter]

Children. Children wear largest. Men wear double xl.

[Big Cat]

It is true.

[Memes]

Some people wear medium.

[Big Cat]

I, I wear large.

[PFT Commenter]

That's, that does look like a large.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Wear large.

[Memes]

It fits you great.

[PFT Commenter]

I wear large.

[Big Cat]

No, this is a New Zealand large.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. New Zealand large.

[Big Cat]

For some reason, New Zealand sizes are bigger.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay. What's your cool throne?

[Big Cat]

It's like a bedtime shirt.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Hank. All right.

[Zach]

No, oversized is mp.

[Big Cat]

It looks good on you.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The boys can't get a fit off Hank. No, they can.

[Hank]

You're Just not our guy.

[Memes]

Colton. He's like. He wears, like, six xl.

[Big Cat]

Hank's just lashing out right now. Never had as many compliments on my. On my fit as I did the last time I wore this shirt. So I was like, yeah, I'm gonna wear it again.

[PFT Commenter]

Just run it back.

[Big Cat]

But it is. It is egregiously large. Yes, I agree. It's a sick shirt. Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

Congrats to the booth, boys. Job well done. Mission accomplished. What?

[Big Cat]

Memes down.

[PFT Commenter]

Talk memes.

[Jerry]

Yeah, I'm down.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Good job.

[Jerry]

Max tried lumps us in. We're all up. I'm down.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. And Zach's up as well. Wait, I thought it was.

[Big Cat]

Well, you did it as a group challenge, right? It's a team challenge. There's no eyes.

[Jerry]

The team fell apart months ago.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Whose responsibility?

[Jerry]

Not pointing fingers?

[Hank]

The Phillies broke the team.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, the weddings broke pence.

[Big Cat]

No, it was. It was. It was the Phillies.

[Hank]

The Phillies.

[Big Cat]

We're going on the big O.

[Memes]

Everything's gonna be.

[Big Cat]

We're gonna figure it out. We are you are we.

[Memes]

I.

[PFT Commenter]

Can we get Max?

[Memes]

It's a collective.

[PFT Commenter]

Can we get Max in a. In a commercial for the big O? Yeah, that'd be sick or majora or whatever.

[Memes]

Sure.

[Hank]

We did have a sponsor that was coming on.

[Memes]

Yeah. I think I fell through.

[Hank]

It did.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh. So get it back on.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be like the Oakland.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to try to do tr.

[Hank]

So funny.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna try to get. I'm gonna try to get on trt.

[Big Cat]

I love the idea of you guys just injecting each other with. With the big O. Like it's Maguire doing steroids.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, we'll see.

[Big Cat]

The big O is going to be.

[Memes]

The big O is going to be a journey.

[Zach]

Do you take. Do you take, like, anabolic steroids with the big O to counteract any tiny traits? So, like, we go.

[PFT Commenter]

I want trt.

[Zach]

Trt.

[PFT Commenter]

Good.

[Zach]

That could be fun.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what I'm looking for.

[Memes]

I like that our New Year's resolutions is just going to be like, let's just start injecting each other with things.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Listen, so we shave a couple years off the end of our lives.

[Memes]

I think I might be gaining some years. Yeah, I think I might be gaining.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot of years. There you go.

[Memes]

Yeah. Think about it like that.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Your cool throne, Zach.

[Zach]

My cool throne today is the India's women's blind cricket team. They just won the World Cup.

[PFT Commenter]

Whoa.

[Big Cat]

Shout out to them.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Against other blind people.

[Zach]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be sick.

[Zach]

If they wanted against seeing people, that would be insane. That would actually be impressive. But this Indians women's blind cricket team is so impressive that I don't count that out against other cricket teams. But, yeah, World cup world champions.

[Big Cat]

I love that. How do you. How do you know the ball is coming?

[Zach]

So it beeps? No, it jingles. There's stuff inside the ball. It'll jingle. They've got a B1 position, B2 position, B3 position. They have to have more than four B1 spots on the team. They met that criteria. B1 is completely blind. B2, as you can see, two meters, B3, six meters.

[Big Cat]

I love that. I love that. Now, how do they enforce that?

[Zach]

You're talking about the vision.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I think I would assume you go through some tests there. And then there's honest. There's probably, like a little bit of honesty. Maybe you throw. I don't have the official test. I was going to say maybe they threw cricket balls from different distances, but that seems like that could be counterintuitive to see.

[Big Cat]

And see if you flinch.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like throw it at you jump and.

[Zach]

Try to move out the way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I would. I guarantee you there's been some. Some crazy cheating scandals in the world of blind cricket.

[PFT Commenter]

Like vision. Definitely. Yeah, definitely some vision.

[Big Cat]

But good for them. Congratulations session. Tundle Car is very happy right now with them, I'm sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Congrats to them.

[Zach]

Huge feat.

[PFT Commenter]

Shout out. Okay, let's do. Let's talk some Thanksgiving. So we're gonna. We're gonna do Thanksgiving preview right now. And then we have our interview with Stavi, our interview with a Rod, and then we're gonna do the weekend preview. So if you want to stop anywhere around the interviews, if you have to work on Friday, feel free to. Let's talk the Thanksgiving Day games and the Black Friday games. We'll give some picks as well. It's brought to you by DraftKings. Do you know about the three T's of Thanksgiving? Turkey for eating, table for gathering and touchdowns for winning. With DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner in the NFL, every touchdown could bring you closer to cashing in before dessert. With DraftKings Sportsbook, all the actions in your hands. First touchdown, anytime, td, live bets. Every play, every snap, every game counts. Big plays, bold calls and bragging rights. When the game gets good, the bet gets better. Here's the best part. New customers bet just $5. If your bet wins, you'll get $200 in bonus bets instantly. When touchdowns happen, we feast. Download the drafting Sportsbook app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE bet 5 bucks and get $200 in bonus bets. If your bet wins in partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours. Gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER in New York. Call 877-8-HOPENY or text hopeny467-369 In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org Please play responsibly on behalf of Boothill Casino and Resort in Kansas. Pass through of per wager. Tax may apply in Illinois 21 and over. Age and eligibility varies by jurisdiction.

[Hank]

Void.

[PFT Commenter]

In Ontario, restrictions apply. Bet must win to receive bonus bets which expire in seven days. Minimum odds required for additional terms and responsible gaming resources. See D Limited time offer. Okay, boys, Thanksgiving. We ready?

[Big Cat]

Very ready.

[PFT Commenter]

Good games.

[Big Cat]

So ready.

[PFT Commenter]

Like thank you. Shout out the Cowboys. Sorry, Max, but shout out to Cowboys for winning that game on, on Sunday and giving us a good game that has meaningful things.

[Big Cat]

We got a great slate ahead of us on Thanksgiving.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it might be the best we've had in a long time.

[Big Cat]

As bad as the slate is going to look on Sunday, you're. You're getting repaid on Thanksgiving for it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes. So, first game, packers two and a half point underdogs at the Lions overrunners 48 and a half. The Lions are wearing their throwback jerseys, which I don't really like. You know, the Thanksgiving ones.

[Big Cat]

The thing is, I've got so many, so many memories of the Lions losing in those uniforms on Thanksgiving.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Yep. I agree. And I, I'm, I'm looking at this game and all I keep thinking about is the Lions defense had to have was on the field for 77 snaps two hour, two. Two days ago. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Against the Giants. Against the Giants, they didn't look good. Against the Giants. The packers haven't really looked that great against anyone recently.

[PFT Commenter]

No. Oh, no, they looked. I mean, they, they dominated the Vikings and their defenses looked good.

[Big Cat]

They did. They did. Yeah. The defense looks good. But offensively. Yeah. The packers fans have many similar criticisms to how Eagles fans feel about their offense.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm, I'm more. I don't know what the line like are the Lions okay.

[Big Cat]

I think that they're not the, they're not the Lions that we saw last year.

[PFT Commenter]

Their offensive line obviously is, is not as dominant and it just feels like there's, they're just a little a tick different. A tick off. I, I kind of like, I think the packers might win this game. I just. I feel like the packers defense is the best unit in this. Well, Jameer Gibbs is so goddamn good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Jameer Gibbs is the best unit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Jameer Gibbs solely is the best unit.

[Big Cat]

But I would say that the, the Lions, they need to get Jameson going.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Zero catches.

[Big Cat]

Jameson is. He's like the difference maker because he's going to stretch the field and if you hit him deep, then you just, you start hitting Amon Ra on the underneath and let him just physically dominate people. They need to get him going if they can get him going. And if, if Goff has enough time to throw without Micah Parsons coming up his ass. I feel like that's. I would be confident in the Lions if they had a vertical passing game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The Jordan Love, by the way, has done very well on Thanksgiving. He's two 0, 71% completion percentage, 542 yards, five touchdowns, zero interceptions, 127 pass rating. Those are his two Thanksgiving Day games.

[Alex Rodriguez]

The.

[PFT Commenter]

Also just big picture. I was looking at the numbers, the favorites and the overs hit on Thanksgiving, which I don't know how I always lose money on Thanksgiving, but I do. But favorites on Thanksgiving are 519 straight up and 40 and 20 against the spread since 2004. That's pretty crazy.

[Big Cat]

That is. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then Road favorites are 25 and one straight up and 20 and six against the spread on Thanksgiving since 2004. Road favorites being the Chiefs. That's. Those are. I saw that and I was like, how do I keep. How do I keep losing again?

[Big Cat]

I feel like that. That stat right there is a Detroit Lions stat.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, that is. And the Dallas Cowboys, when they stick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The Lions being underdogs on Thanksgiving, it's probably coming in. That's happened a lot over the course of the last 20 years or so.

[PFT Commenter]

For sure.

[Big Cat]

But it's different Lions team.

[PFT Commenter]

I. But it's also. Remember it's against the spread. It's not. We're not talking about straight like teams are just covering. The favorites are covering against the spread.

[Big Cat]

Is. Is Josh Jacobs playing?

[PFT Commenter]

I feel like he was close to playing on Sunday, so I would say yes, but I have no inside information. Again, this is kind of weird because we're doing this early enough that we don't know everything in terms of injury reports and everything that's going on. So we're taking some guesses.

[Big Cat]

What's kind of crazy is that Wilson had 100 yards last week. That was the packers first hundred yard game by any running back this season.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Remember I said that yeah, since 20. Since week 12 last year. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

In. In a game that Josh Jacobs did not play.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Kind of crazy. So it. I still think that Josh Jacobs is like he. Given the fact that they're minus their, their big play guy, their. Their best receiver in Tucker Kraft, I feel like a lot's going to fall on his shoulders. Josh Jacobs from this point forward.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

The next game also, Jack White's performing the halftime show.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, is that it?

[Big Cat]

If that matters. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Make it the Corgis.

[Big Cat]

Well, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Jack White and the Corgis run it back, back to back. That's what I'm saying.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The halftime show for Thanksgiving should be like goofy like that. That's what we need. Or the, or the kids versus mascot game. Yeah, watch that. Watch the hell out of that. Our next game, the Cowboys at home against the Chiefs. The Cowboys are three and a half point underdogs. The overrunners 52 and a half. This is again, shout out to Cowboys for winning that game because it does feel like this game is very consequential. Now. Excited to watch this game. I gave you the stat about the road favorites. I do feel like people are a little too high on the Cowboys. I want to take the Chiefs, but I also can't be hypocritical in my logic that the packers are playing against a team that played in overtime in the Detroit Lions on a short rest. The Chiefs also played in overtime and now are on a short rest and traveling.

[Big Cat]

So this is, this is the second game out of four in a row that the Cowboys have against teams that won 14 games last season. Pretty crazy. I don't know the last time that's happened, if it's ever happened before in the NFL, it feels like maybe the first time ever for that. But they had the Eagles obviously last last week, then they got the Chiefs on Thanksgiving, then at the Lions, then against the Vikings. So pretty crazy that, that the NFL put that in their schedule. So if you're a Cowboys fan, you, I guess you have an opportunity to and complain about how the NFL is biased against you, but then you can look at literally everything else that's happened in the history of your team and say, okay, maybe they're not super biased against the Dallas Cowboys, but yeah, whoever wins this game, I'd say very much still alive and they would be a team that you don't want to play. The team that loses this game, I think you can, you can put the stamp on them. Eliminated, you're done with them. Eliminate. Well, I'm not done with Them. Because I think both teams are playing good right now. But given what the records are, I say. I personally say eliminated from playoff contention.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, to the loser.

[Big Cat]

To the loser of this game.

[PFT Commenter]

I disagree because I think that if the Chiefs lose, they could still. We were saying it. They got to go six, six out of seven. I think the Chiefs could still lose it and make the playoffs. I don't know if the Cowboys can just by the nature of how packed the NFC feels at the top.

[Big Cat]

You know what's crazy is the last time these two teams played on Thanksgiving, you know who the coach was for the Chiefs.

[PFT Commenter]

Last time these two teams played on Thanksgiving, who was the coach for the Chiefs?

[Hank]

Schottenheimer.

[Big Cat]

It was Schottenheimer.

[PFT Commenter]

Schottenheimer. Wow.

[Big Cat]

And now shot, say Todd Haley.

[PFT Commenter]

They should talk about, like, picking up, you know, milfs at a bar. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

On Thanksgiving. Yeah, he's got some. Aubrey huffing him for sure. No, but it was. Yeah, it was shot in Hummer's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's cool.

[Big Cat]

Marty. Now. Now Shoddy's coaching the Cowboys. By the way, there have been some accusations of plagiarism towards Schottenheimer.

[PFT Commenter]

Why?

[Big Cat]

His postgame speeches, they seem to be lifted word for word, bar for bar from Pete Carroll. Oh, who he worked with.

[PFT Commenter]

I was say, if it's from his dad, that's fair.

[Big Cat]

That's totally fair.

[PFT Commenter]

It stays within the family. It's like a recipe. It's like your Nona's recipe for meatballs.

[Big Cat]

And listen, every NFL coach takes something that they heard Bill parcel say one time and then they say it to their team.

[PFT Commenter]

You are what your record says you are.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you just take those quotes. Let me shop for the groceries. All that stuff you can sit. You can lift it from either if the. The coach you're stealing from is your dad or if it's Bill Parcells who's like kind of everyone's dad in the NFL. I don't think you can do it if that coach is still in the league.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree.

[Big Cat]

Coaching is it.

[PFT Commenter]

But then the question is, is Pete Carroll still in the league?

[Jerry]

Coaching?

[Big Cat]

Technically, Physically?

[PFT Commenter]

This body is there.

[Big Cat]

Physically. He's on the sidelines.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he still with us?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm excited for this game. I feel like the Cowboys have not. I feel like they've not played and this might be just way wrong. Someone's gonna tell me. I'm way off. I feel like they haven't played in a big consequential game on Thanksgiving where both teams. I mean.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Although last year, did you Guys play them. That was big. No, the Cowboys stunk last year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The Cowboys were not good last.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So it's either one or the other. Like Cowboys, good years, they play someone bad kind of thing. But, yeah, this is going to be. This is me. A fun game to watch. I have a stat that is. I wonder. I. We should actually have it like a status statistician on the show someday or math guy, and just hit him with the dumbest stats and be like, does that mean anything? Because I know it doesn't, but I also can't. I would love for someone to explain to me why it means absolutely nothing. The sample size and all that shit. Patrick Mahomes. Fun fact about Patrick Mahomes, he has never lost a road game on a Wednesday, Thursday or Saturday.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that. Okay. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Crazy, huh?

[Big Cat]

But he's never played on Thanksgiving. Nobody's played, obviously, Thursday Night Football on other Thursdays.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Wait, is this his first Thanksgiving game?

[Big Cat]

I believe so.

[PFT Commenter]

That's kind of crazy. You'd think you'd put him on there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, they. They put him on all the other weird games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So I. Do you guys. Who. Who you guys lean towards in this game? You like the Cowboys?

[Big Cat]

I think I. I think. No, I like the over.

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, you're. You think this is a game that the Chiefs always win?

[Hank]

Yeah. I'm a little bit burned by them not covering last week, but the Chiefs. I like the over. And I like the Chiefs.

[Big Cat]

I like the over, too.

[Hank]

Probably not spread.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But the Chiefs aren't losing this game.

[PFT Commenter]

The Chiefs could still win the AFC west, by the way. If the Chiefs win out and The Broncos go 2 and 2 against the Chargers, Jaguars, Commanders, and Packers. That's not totally unreasonable. And. Yeah, so that's not crazy. And then. Yeah, there could be. And then only one AFC loss required. I got to look at all of it. There's still too many games. I can't get all the. I can't get all the math down on the playoffs until we're like, week 15.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

When we're like, three games left, I can figure out all the stuff. It's just too many games right now.

[Big Cat]

So my. My. My thesis on why the loser of this game will be eliminated from the playoffs is. It's just. It's. You can't have the number five in the win column at Thanksgiving.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You can't do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, the Chiefs have six.

[Big Cat]

The Chiefs do have six. I forgot about that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that's my thesis for the Cowboys at least.

[PFT Commenter]

So then you're back to agreeing with me. The. The Cowboys will be eliminated, but Chiefs will not.

[Big Cat]

No, I, I stand by that part of the take because I, I think that the Chiefs. That division, but it doesn't matter.

[PFT Commenter]

They can still.

[Hank]

The Chiefs, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Chiefs, man.

[Big Cat]

I don't. I don't see it. I don't see it. I. I feel like the Chiefs have. This is a must win. They're all must wins for the Chiefs.

[PFT Commenter]

Chiefs, man.

[Big Cat]

They got to do it. Also, last year on Thanksgiving, Taylor Swift.

[PFT Commenter]

Taylor Swift, dude. The entertainment league super logo. The colors.

[Big Cat]

The colors of. Well, she's not. She's not playing the halftime show, so Goodell's mad at her for turning down the halftime show. So he's taking out on the Chiefs.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Think about it, Hank. Last year on Thanksgiving, it was the Cowboys and the Giants, because we remember it was.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, it was.

[Big Cat]

Drew Lock against Cooper Rush.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a year before you guys played. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Who could forget that game?

[PFT Commenter]

Drew Lock versus Cooper Rush. Okay. Last game, Sunday. Thursday night football, Bengals at Ravens. Ravens minus seven over under 51 and a half. Joe Burrow back.

[Big Cat]

He's back. I. I don't think that he should be. But he's back.

[PFT Commenter]

He's back. Just be competitive, Bengals, because we do on paper have a very exciting Thanksgiving Day games. And this game is important in terms of happiness and that, like that late night or early night sitting around, everyone feels like you still got to be talking to family members, like, give us something.

[Big Cat]

And the. The Bengals have no Trey Hendrickson. They have no T. Higgins in this game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. They have Jamar Chase back.

[Big Cat]

They do have Jamar Chase back. I think we were all hoping for. For another like 450 yard performance from Joe Burrow. They should schedule this game for early in the season before the Ravens fix their defense.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So I don't know if we're gonna get that. That, you know, because last year it was two games that. That Joe Burrow, I think he threw for like 800 something.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And they lost both the games. This is a. We'll talk to Stavi about it, but this is a must look good for the Ravens offense.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

You need the offense to do something.

[PFT Commenter]

Lamar is 6 and 1 versus Joe Burrow, so kind of owns them. The Ravens are going to be all perped up.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

They're going all purple.

[Big Cat]

I love that.

[PFT Commenter]

All perped up on a Thanksgiving night.

[Big Cat]

Lamar also is like Garfield. He hates Mondays.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

He just doesn't practice on Mondays. It's the third week In a row where he just hasn't. Hasn't practiced. I'm assuming since we're taping this Tuesday morning he's going to practice today. I'm assuming he'll do whatever walkthrough or whatever it is the Ravens have scheduled for Wednesday. He just doesn't like showing up to work on Mondays, which. Relatable.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, very much so. This could be the high. I think it's the second highest Thanksgiving night game in history in terms of over under. So they're telling us it's going to be a fun game.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

We deserve three bangers.

[Big Cat]

We do.

[PFT Commenter]

And this really would be nice.

[Big Cat]

The exact stats on Burrow for last year. He was. He threw for 820 yards against the Ravens. Nine touchdowns and one pick. Lost both games.

[PFT Commenter]

He was incredible.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Incredible. Yeah. It's not his fault. Okay. Max Black Friday. You're going to be there? I will be there.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Thanks.

[Memes]

At game time.

[PFT Commenter]

Bears. Oh, what. What are the prices on that on that game? Hank, I was joking. That was a joke. Bears and Eagles. Eagles are seven point favorites. Over. Under is 44 and a half. How you feeling, Max?

[Alex Rodriguez]

Second.

[Memes]

We just don't have a secondary right now, so I don't feel great about that. We lost both of our starting safeties. We were already down as down a safety. So we have one healthy. Sidney Brown is our only healthy safety on the active roster right now, which means we'll probably have to bring up. Either bring up practice squad guys or move Cooper Jean back there, which she hasn't done all year. So the secondary is an issue. But I don't know. This is. This is a must. This is a must win.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

This is a must win for the city will. The city will burn down if they.

[Big Cat]

Oh, on Thanksgiving.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you gonna burn it?

[Memes]

I won't burn it, but I will. I will just see it burn down.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What's the difference between burning down the city in joy and burning down the city in despair Vibes for sure. You think it's. It's worse. Like what?

[Memes]

Unlike when the Eagles win the super bowl, it's purge. It's like you can do whatever you want and.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's.

[Memes]

And everything's legal. But when they. When they. When the city burns down bad. Very, very much illegal.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you. Are you thinking like awful, awful loss boys would be ready to go. They get, you know, you bounce back off a loss. Would rather you guys win.

[Memes]

You guys have changed this argument a million times.

[PFT Commenter]

You ready to change it again? No, I'm going to Nick Sirianni is 8 and 14 against the spread after a loss. Just changed it one last time on your ass.

[Big Cat]

Wait, Max, are you saying that you think that the Eagles are going to lose?

[Memes]

No.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so you agree?

[Memes]

I agree. With what?

[Big Cat]

That bouncing back after a loss is a big thing.

[PFT Commenter]

We're just flipping it on you constantly.

[Memes]

This is. This is bullshit. I'm just not. I'm not entertaining this conversation.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a good stat for you, Max. Favorite shutout in the second half of a game. So if you're a favorite in a game, you get shut out in the second half. They're 60% against the spread in their next game. So that's the bounce back.

[Big Cat]

There you go.

[PFT Commenter]

So you got to bounce. You got a bad bounce back set and a good bounce back set.

[Memes]

Your bounce back stat sounds. Although I don't really care if they cover the spread. It's a big spread.

[PFT Commenter]

True.

[Memes]

Seven points is you win the football game. There's. There's a lot of leeway there with seven points.

[PFT Commenter]

I got two more crazy stats for you. Ready? This is. This one we do all the time. Lane Johnson with and without Lane Johnson. The Eagles with Lane Johnson are 96 and 41 and 1. And then without Lane Johnson, they're 12 and 24.

[Memes]

The offensive line was horrendous last week.

[PFT Commenter]

And then here's the craziest.

[Big Cat]

A lot of flags.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's the weirdest stat for you, Max. Ready?

[Memes]

Most flags under Nick Sirianni ever.

[PFT Commenter]

You ready for the weirdest stat? The Bears since 2006, this is the third time that they have won eight of nine games. What were the other two times?

[Memes]

How am I supposed to.

[PFT Commenter]

The week before the double doink and then the week of the double doink. That's pretty crazy. That is crazy. Yeah, that's a little weird stat when.

[Big Cat]

It comes to the flags.

[PFT Commenter]

Do.

[Big Cat]

Do you find that the refs are calling ticky tack stuff against you? Like you're under a microscope or are you guys just. You. You don't have discipline.

[Memes]

That was undisciplined. That was just sloppy. I'm not blaming the. I mean, some people were trying to play that game.

[Hank]

That.

[Memes]

That's not going to be me. I didn't say one time that that cd that, that CD Lamb defensive pass interference was actually offensive pass interference because he, you know, stiff armed Cooper DeJean in the face as he was catching the ball. And you know, that was pretty much a turning point in the game. I didn't say that one time on Sunday. And I'm not going to say it now. They just got to be better. They just have to be more disciplined. And we have to play a cleaner football game on Friday.

[Big Cat]

You guys, like, from the offensive standpoint, I know you've talked about the Eagles a lot, saying how it's broken, we need to fix it. The first half, you guys weren't broken last week. The first half. You guys look good.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You can just do that.

[Memes]

We've played a lot of football games like that this year where it's been one half of football. It's just a lot of the. Like the Rams, we played one half of football in the second half. The Broncos, we played one half of football in the first half.

[Stavros Halkias]

The.

[Memes]

The Cowboys game. The Broncos game were sent. Were essentially the same game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

A big problem is after the Broncos game, we got our ass kicked by the Giants. So I hope that doesn't happen.

[Big Cat]

You guys, if. If you get out to.

[Hank]

Maybe you had a short week for that.

[Big Cat]

That's true. Good point.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Big Cat]

Max?

[Memes]

I'm not. I'm not entertaining.

[Big Cat]

If you guys get out to a big lead in the first half, you should just not go to the locker room for halftime. Just stay on the sideline.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, I'll Big Dom.

[Big Cat]

And be like, we're not changing anything.

[Memes]

But it wasn't even the first half. Like, it was just a quarter. Like, the first quarter looked good and then. And then they looked like shit. Like they were. All the vibes were already going down after the first. Like, after the third touchdown. Like the very beginning of the second quarter.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Can I do permission to do real talk? Shout CJ Stroud with everyone here, could do some real talk. Still do some trusty real talk. So I. I think I've been pretty reasonable about the Bears this year and that I've enjoyed the. Out of it. But I've also been like, okay, you know, we're beating some bad teams. We'll see how this goes. And I think part of my superstitious brain is like, stay in that mode where you're not expecting anything crazy. You're not expecting big things. You have to stay in the mode of, hey, the shoe could drop at any time. This team is building to something, but probably a year away. Real talk. There's maybe been some thoughts in my head being like, why don't we just fucking beat the Eagles and go nine and three.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And like, just start fucking ripping on and why. Why don't we just keep winning games? But I'm keeping those suppressed because I think superstitious, wise I need to stay in that mode of, hey, this is so much fun. I'm enjoying the fuck out of watching the Bears. But overall, we're your way.

[Big Cat]

All these things, you're afraid of the feelings. You're afraid of the feelings that you're going to have if you win this game.

[PFT Commenter]

Why don't we just beat the. Out of the Eagles? Yeah, I think just do it.

[Big Cat]

If you. If.

[PFT Commenter]

Why can't we do. We can do it. We're in every game.

[Hank]

Eagles have no secondary.

[Big Cat]

If you win this game, you're. You're thinking, Kayla Williams is.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I'm not thinking, oh, if you.

[Big Cat]

Win this game against the Eagles.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no.

[Hank]

You should be the super bowl champs.

[Big Cat]

You should think so.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The Rams are so much better than every team we beat the Rams this year of a block field goal. No, I'm not.

[Memes]

I'm also sick of being block field.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't.

[Memes]

If you don't let the field go.

[PFT Commenter]

Get blocked, you made the fucking play.

[Memes]

I'm sick of people being like, oh, well, it was a block field goal and a return. Good team. Yeah, good teams. Just don't let that happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's.

[Big Cat]

Who's disparaging the block field goal?

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone. I just said there's a block field goal.

[Big Cat]

I think that if the.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, no, you're wrong, because they have to. They still have to play the Packers. It's how they do against the packers, that's like the final. Like, if you. Because it. Because packers fans are doing the whole thing. Like, oh, this is cute. The Bears are winning games and wait till we play them twice and beat them twice. That's going to be the real test. But this game, we'll see.

[Big Cat]

No, if you beat the Eagles, you should. You should at least consider the possibility of Soupy. Yeah, you should have to.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm not.

[Big Cat]

Yes, they won the Super.

[PFT Commenter]

Try to do this, but I'm not going.

[Big Cat]

No, but if you beat a Super bowl champion team.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

On the road, passing of the torch.

[PFT Commenter]

Got to beat. Got to beat the Packers.

[Memes]

You guys aren't talking. You guys weren't talking about the Bengals, Ravens the same way we're talking about Bears Eagles, same spread.

[Big Cat]

Well, yeah, because the Eagles.

[Hank]

The Ravens didn't just win the Super Bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

I did Real talk. And they took it. I didn't. Max. I stayed on Real Talk. I did. They've been going. They're going crazy.

[Big Cat]

The Bears and the Eagles are both good. The Bengals are not good.

[Memes]

But I'm saying they're both.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I know.

[Memes]

And they're both the.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's my, here's, here's. I'm going back to reality. Real talk over. I'm very nervous about the Bears injury. We don't know right now because we're taping on Tuesday morning, but I'm very nervous about the Bears injuries. We had no linebackers against Steelers. We lost two during the game. I think Kyler Gordon and Jalen Johnson are probably still another week away or whatever it may be. If the Eagles want to run the ball, they should be able to easily. I know, but the Steelers. Steelers aren't like a insane running offense. They were just ripping off five yards of carry. What was the Steelers. I'm saying, Max, that this. You. You have a lot of injuries on defense. We have a lot of injuries on defense. I. I think that it's going to be a very, very tough game for the Bears to win. Could they. But it's gonna be a very tough game for the Bears to win. That's. That's not my honest feeling. It's my honest feeling. This is, this will be a nice litmus test of can we, can we compete with some of these teams that are on the upper half instead of everyone saying, look who you beat, you beat bad teams. Yeah, the, the Steelers ran for 186 yards, 5.2 yards per carry. Steelers aren't like the best running team.

[Big Cat]

But they at least.

[PFT Commenter]

We don't have linebackers.

[Big Cat]

They at least try to run the football. The Eagles, sometimes just inexplicably, they just stop trying to run the football. Max, why are you upset about us not talking about the Ravens, Bengals, the same way we're talking about this game?

[PFT Commenter]

He's saying, because the spread.

[Big Cat]

I know the spread's the same, but I mean, you.

[Memes]

You just. I mean, you just like, you're the.

[Big Cat]

You. You hate the Eagles more than anybody else on the show right now.

[PFT Commenter]

I just went through.

[Big Cat]

You think you are the biggest doom and gloom guy right now for the city of Philadelphia.

[Stavros Halkias]

That is not also.

[PFT Commenter]

That was real talk. I was doing. I wasn't doing. We were. We were in a safe space where I was saying, why can't we just beat the Eagles? We're not going to beat the Eagles. Why can't we?

[Big Cat]

And then you're thinking, soupy, no, you have to think. You have.

[PFT Commenter]

Don't do this.

[Memes]

This is the exact opposite of last year, by the way.

[PFT Commenter]

What.

[Big Cat]

What are you talking about?

[Memes]

When the commander started to go on a run and Big cat.

[Big Cat]

And yeah.

[Memes]

If you were like, oh, I'm not Going to think Soupy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I know. Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

And guess what he said. No, I was lying. Yeah, I definitely was.

[Memes]

I'm just saying this.

[PFT Commenter]

No, no. Yeah, of course. It absolutely is the exact same. And my reaction is the exact same as pft. Yeah, I. I'm telling you the God's honest truth. The packers are the. Are the. The. Because everything always just leads to the packers beating the Bears. And it's that. That's. You got to get over that.

[Big Cat]

I mean, if we're going to get over that, if we're going to draw parallels to last year, what would happen in this game is Jalen Hurts has to leave early, and then the. The Bears end up beating the. The Eagles with a weekend offense because they don't have their starting quarterback. And then now you kind of are thinking Soupy, but you also have in the back of your head the fact that it was kind of a win, but you still try to hold it over Max's head for the rest of the season, knowing that if you do play the Eagles again, they're going to kick the. Out of you.

[PFT Commenter]

I would not.

[Memes]

I wasn't gonna say all that, but I was thinking.

[Big Cat]

I mean, that's what happened in reality. The entire time.

[Memes]

Getting deja vu. Because it's. It's the.

[Big Cat]

It's. The entire time last year, I just had to keep saying, Jalen Hurts doesn't play defense, and then use that as the way to. I was taking the drug. Saying, just don't think about the fact that you. Your win against the Eagles was an asterisk. But yes, there are a lot of parallels between last year and this year, but you got to think soon.

[PFT Commenter]

But I know, because the Commanders also were winning games differently than the Bears are winning games this year. That's just a fact. The Commanders were like lighting teams up.

[Big Cat]

No, we. No, in the regular season, the Bengals game, we were winning. That was a. That was a close game. That was a very.

[PFT Commenter]

You lit them up. You scored like 40 on them.

[Big Cat]

Look, Bears game. The record in one score games last year was insane.

[PFT Commenter]

What was the Bengals game?

[Big Cat]

The Bengals game was Monday night in week three, and neither team punted. Neither team turned the ball over. It was a shootout.

[PFT Commenter]

You lit them up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we scored a lot of points, but they scored a lot of points, too.

[PFT Commenter]

That's the wrong season.

[Big Cat]

And then you look at the other close wins we had. We had a lot of them last year.

[Hank]

4214 against the Cardinals, 3413 against the Browns, 40 to 7 against the Panthers 18 to 15 against the Bears.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I'm going to be. I'm going to be real. I'm staying.

[Memes]

And it was coming. I mean, they lost.

[PFT Commenter]

Staying real. I'm staying realistic that we Bears are a year away. I'm not going to go all in on. On this is going to be the seat. There's year. They have flaws on their.

[Big Cat]

Barely beat the Saints. It came down to the very last play of the game. Barely beat the Eagles with no Jalen hurts, bless me. Barely beat the Falcons and then barely beat the Cowboys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm realistic that this is. This is a far from 23 in.

[Hank]

The NFC championship game.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow. Yeah, that was me.

[Big Cat]

That's what it was.

[PFT Commenter]

That was really mean.

[Hank]

I'm just.

[PFT Commenter]

That was really mean.

[Hank]

Next game, too. 48, 18.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Hank]

In the preseason.

[Big Cat]

Oh, in the preseason.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, Max, this will be fun. So you're going to the game?

[Memes]

I'll be there. I will be there.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's just be cordial to each other. Okay?

[Memes]

You will not be cordial.

[PFT Commenter]

I will be cordial if the.

[Memes]

If the Bears win, I'll be.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll take it with grace. And just be like, hey, I will take it with grace. I will take it with grace.

[Memes]

Because we are supposed to win.

[PFT Commenter]

You have a grace off.

[Memes]

Yeah, I will take it.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll take it with more grace. For sure.

[Memes]

Take it with grace.

[PFT Commenter]

More grace. We're gonna have a grace off.

[Big Cat]

Max will take it with grace. He'll just go around talking to everybody, making the small talk.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How's everyone's Thanksgiving?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, what? You had your stuffing. What'd you do in your stuffing?

[Memes]

That's a good point.

[Big Cat]

It's very graceful. It is very funny that Amazon sponsors the Black Friday game.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Like a holiday that they are actively trying to kill.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, yes. Facts. Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Stavi. Oh, no. We gotta do our picks. Let's do our picks real quick. Then we got Savvy and a rod. Everyone gets one pick for Thanksgiving Day games. Who's going first? That'd be Hank. Hank, you're up one pick. One pick. Come on, Hank.

[Hank]

I'm gonna take the Mutter over. Give me an over. Let's go over. Let's go with the Chiefs. Cowboys. Chiefs. A lot of defensive snaps. Just played an overtime game. Short rest. Gonna be a lot of points scored. No matter how many, you know how much the Cowboys go up. The Chiefs are going to come back. So I like the like the over 52 and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. All right.

[Jerry]

I'll go over 48 and a half. Packers, Lions.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Memes]

I'm just gonna take Eagles minus seven.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna take Zach's up.

[Zach]

Wait.

[Big Cat]

Oh, sorry.

[Zach]

I'll get. I would like to take the Ravens minus seven.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to take over 44 and a half in the Bears Eagles game.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. And I'll take the packers plus two and a half. So let's get to our interviews and then on the other side of Stavi and a Rod, we're going to do our weekend Sunday preview. If you would like to pause because you have to work on Friday, just pause halfway through stuff, have maybe pause before a rod, listen to a rod and then the weekend preview. Give you a leave you a little something for everyone has to work on Friday. Okay. Let's get to a couple ads and.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

I'm addicted to airdropping.

[Big Cat]

It's fun. I had a problem.

[PFT Commenter]

I had a problem on Saturday night in Madison. I just started air dropping everything.

[Big Cat]

It's fun. It's so fun. I wish that if they have. I might have to check and see if they have touch tunes, because I've got some credits burning a hole in my pocket.

[PFT Commenter]

There we go.

[Big Cat]

Twisted Tea and touch tune. Sigs inside, Jello shots. It's all going down at Finnegan's Cove in Harrisonburg. If the Dukes win. When we win, shout out to Twisted T. And now here is Stavi.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest and very good friend. It is Stavros Halkies. He is a Hollywood star now, but we wanted Stavion because we realized something. We asked you to come on. When you're in Chicago, you always come in studio. We love having you on. But then when you're not in Chicago, we do ask you to come on whenever the Ravens are.

[Stavros Halkias]

That's right.

[PFT Commenter]

Having a terrible, terrible time. Losing in the playoffs, whatever it may be, we wanted to reverse it for you. The Ravens are now top of the AFC North 6 and 5 season back on Thanksgiving night. So let's start with the Ravens. How are you feeling?

[Stavros Halkias]

We are back, but we're back. We're six and five in the whole division. Sucks dick. Do you know what I mean?

[PFT Commenter]

It's like.

[Stavros Halkias]

It's like the least. And not only that, but I thought this would be the best part of the season. Like, you know, you know when you're eating a fucking steak and there's the little fatty part on the side and you just, you say to yourself, I'm not going to get through all this lean cut. I'm going right for the gristly, fatty part. I thought I was going to enjoy that right now. Right. Because it's like, we're going to beat up on these shitty teams. We're going to win five in a row. I did manifest five in a row, by the way. I knew this was going to happen, but I thought we would beat the fuck out of these teams. And we have barely eked out every single fucking win. Not one of them felt awesome. Not a single one has felt like, holy fuck, we're back. I mean, Lamar, it's basically the team has flipped identities where it's like, the first couple of weeks, it was like, our defense sucks dick. You know, I'm doing like. I'm thinking about flying to Seattle and begging Mike McDaniel or Mike McDonald to come back. I'm thinking about, like, you know, that we're so fucked. But Lamar was looking like the best fucking quarterback that's ever lived, and we still couldn't win a fucking game. And that as soon as he came back, we figured out our defense and shout out to, you know, I do. We. I do believe in this defense. I do believe in our coordinator. I do think. I mean, he's fucking young as shit, but he put it together last year. He needed to little. He needed to figure some shit out. I think our personnel moves have been really good that we just kind of shuffled it around to now we have a workable defense. And ever since then, our defense has been fucking awesome. But I remember what this feels like. This is what the Ravens teams were like when I was a kid. Awesome defense. I mean, the best player last on the with we. We beat the jets and the most impressive performance was our fucking punter. Shout out to Sam Cooke. He's the man. But it's like, it's. He's. That was the best. That was the coolest play. The, like, most exciting play was that fucking coffin corner punt, which is awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

But it's like, we didn't. Derek Henry had two touchdowns, but he f. Our. Our line is fucking dog shit. It's like, this is the most. This is the most. Like, we.

[Big Cat]

We.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like, this is the most like, getting pussy with a limp dick I've ever.

[PFT Commenter]

Had in my life.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know what I mean? It's like. It's like when you mash your 40, when your dick gets to critical mass, it's 51% hard, and it's just barely enough for penetrative intercourse. We are Just, we did just enough to win five games, and it's not inspiring. And I'm a little worried because, look, we have to beat the fuck out of the bed. This defense. I want to talk about a defense that sucks dick. It's like. But Lamar has looked a little banged up. If we can't get our offense right with two Bengals games, I don't know what the fuck. So it's like, yes, I feel good. Yes, I believe in my boys, but I thought this was going to be. These five games are going to be awesome. And I have a theory about why this might be good for the Ravens. But anyway, sorry you asked.

[PFT Commenter]

Give us your theory. Give us your theory, because I have a theory, too. We have competing theories.

[Stavros Halkias]

Okay. So I actually thought that, obviously you never want to start, you know, with two win, one win, whatever. You never want to start the way we started. But this team has always faltered when the fucking pressure starts, right? The deep. I mean, going back to when we lost the fucking Titans, the first playoff run that. When Lamar really put his dick on the table and had that insane season. And then I was at that Chiefs game when we fucking law. When Taylor Swift celebrated on em and in M and T bank, I was fucking there. I was crying while they were having a great time. Every time we get to the point we need to get to when it's like, all right, time for the next level, something happens. And I'm not one of these guys that says, Lamar. Lamar chokes. I don't think that. I think he's had pretty good games. But the team overall tightens up. Game planning is always a little weirder. Everyone plays a little tighter. It feels more spiritual than it is. X's and O's.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And so we basically. To get into the playoffs every season, every game since 2 and 5 is a playoff game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, essentially.

[Stavros Halkias]

And so we have an opportunity to. For the guys to feel this. 10 games in a fucking row. What they went through, what they usually go through at the AFC Championship. And so I think that's good for us. Having said that, I would have loved to get a couple. Just. I mean, yesterday was the game that really. I thought, okay, the jets fucking just traded their only good defensive players. We're going to. Let's fuck them up at least. Yeah, we couldn't get shit going. So overall, I still think this is good. I still think we're on a fucking great path. I think a lot of the time it gets to just Lamar being injured, but that fucking. There's a little malaise with the, with the, with the team sometimes that I thought we could knock off and we still. Listen, if we're going to. If we're going to do. If we're going to make a deep run, I think we will knock it off. I think, you know, we got to get one of these other games we're not just playing. I mean, we're playing the Bengals and the Steelers, but we also have to play the Patriots. And who's the other fucking team on our schedule?

[Big Cat]

You got the Packers.

[Stavros Halkias]

The Packers.

[PFT Commenter]

So yeah, we have to.

[Stavros Halkias]

I. At least we get to measure ourselves with like if. By the way, fucking kills me that the Patriots are good. I mean, it's such. I know you guys are feeling it because.

[PFT Commenter]

Fucking rubbing in our face.

[Stavros Halkias]

I mean it's fucking insane. It's fucking crazy. All we, all we have to fucking go off of is the Bill Belichick on it doing his bad grandpa shit. But that's the only nice part is how much his life is falling apart. But. And Tom Brady, I guess to some level, but the fact that these cocksuckers get a good court, it's like I don't want to root against the well being of any man, but it would be nice if something psychological happened to the Patriot, you know what I mean? Like something like if he had like a. If you know, what's his face. The. I'm blanking on Drake, man. Fucking quarterback. Yeah. If just. If he had some kind of psychological crime.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't want to.

[Stavros Halkias]

I don't want the root for injuries.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Stavros Halkias]

But if he had some kind of mental breakdown, some kind of depression, late onset schizophrenia and he has like multiple personalities and one of them is a bad quarterback, that would be good at least. If Drake may develop schizophrenia and he's only good half the time and you don't know which personality is playing, they deserve that at least. They don't deserve a good quarterback immediately. Anyway, sorry, I, I'm. I'm on.

[PFT Commenter]

No, that's good.

[Stavros Halkias]

Literally have to make a. I have to make. I have to like make a flight and I didn't sleep and I just did a bunch of podcasts, so I'm like hopped up on espressos.

[PFT Commenter]

But none of them are asking you about the Ravens.

[Stavros Halkias]

You're right. No one's asking. I have a lot of thoughts.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

I want to get them out.

[PFT Commenter]

Good.

[Stavros Halkias]

And so I think this is still good. We have to fuck the Bengals up.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Stavros Halkias]

We have to fuck the Steelers up. The problem with the Steelers games is that no matter who's good? It's all. It kind of always feels like we split even when we're a juggernaut and they're fucking. You know, they could go three and whatever the fuck. Or we're. Or the flip side, it's always. Steelers games are always kind of weirdly rivalry games with this, with, with this, you know, the way we've played them. I still think it's lining up really nicely for us to slay some of the playoff demons because if we just end up with 10.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, if we end up with 10 wins, that's insane. Like, that's a huge. Like, if you take, if you throw away the records from the first couple of weeks and we end up with 10 wins, that's fucking huge. But. And to do that, we'll have to get at least a Packers or a Patriots win. So I think if we can come out of this even as a wild card, lowest seed, I think it'll be like, well, we've never been the underdogs, right? And every time we've won, we've always been the fucking dog. Like, no one thought we were gonna, I mean that the first Super Bowl. No one thought we were gonna win the second Super Bowl. It's like everyone was sucking Peyton Manning and the fucking Broncos off till my boy Joey Flax fucking got their asses. Caught them sleeping on deep coverage, you fucking idiots. And so I think like that's.

[Big Cat]

We're kind of.

[Stavros Halkias]

At last time I was about numerology, right? Because Lamar was the right age, the right. Every quarterback was 28. This time it's. I was wrong. We're not a numerology team. We're a vibes based organization, right. We're. We have a smash mouth defense. Kyle Hamilton is the fucking best defensive player in the league. He's so fucking good that it's, it was what we were. We were trying to win with offense and that was not the Ravens way. Right now we have a fucking awesome, awesome defense. Kyle Hamilton is our fucking star. And Lamar, the pressure's a little off him. He'll heal. Hopefully he heals. And if we lead with our defense, we still get these fucking. We still get great punting. Best punt. I mean those truly beautiful punting. Yeah, beautiful coffin corner. I mean, that did get my dick hard. As much as I would have liked a big play from Zay or something, that coffin corner was gorgeous. We get a couple of those things going and now we sneak in ev.

[PFT Commenter]

We're.

[Stavros Halkias]

We're not favored in a single one of the playoff games. That's how the Ravens win Super Bowls.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

They don't win off buys. They don't win off MVP seasons. And so I'm kind of hoping we can kind of get it all together.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. I don't hate that theory at all. We've been saying for the last few weeks. I feel like the last three or four. Hey, what's up, buddy?

[Stavros Halkias]

Sorry, I'm at. I'm at YMH Studio. The irony is I'm at a place that has like eight podcast studios, and I'm just doing this in a supply closet on my laptop.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we've been.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sorry, go ahead.

[Big Cat]

We've been saying that about the Ravens for, like, the last four weeks. These should count towards Lamar's postseason stats.

[Zach]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

Because. Because all of these are. They are playoff games for Lamar and.

[PFT Commenter]

I and even the ones playing not great. That's why he's not playing great.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. Okay. You suck my dick. Enjoy this flash in the pan.

[PFT Commenter]

You said thank you for beating the Steelers yesterday.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah. But I still could tell you to go yourself.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that's fair.

[Big Cat]

But I know I can still call.

[Stavros Halkias]

I can still call you a schedule fraud.

[Big Cat]

I like where your head's at, though. Like, this is the Ravens way. Get in as a wild card. Sneak up on people. No Expert. The only problem with that is I feel like the Bills are kind of in that same lane right now.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, them.

[Big Cat]

It's like you guys and the Chiefs. You and. Yeah, you have the Chiefs. Pat Mahomes is really the underdog of this. Of these playoffs.

[Stavros Halkias]

They'll never be the. No, the Chiefs will never be a Fuck. Come on. What the. What the fuck are you idiots talking about? The Chiefs are underdogs. Fuck them. They don't deserve this. That. You know what?

[PFT Commenter]

Good.

[Alex Rodriguez]

We're.

[Stavros Halkias]

We can't even be fucking underdogs. You want to talk about. Nobody believes in us. Shit, they won't even let us be the fucking underdogs. Fuck you, Big me. Biggest fucking football podcast in the world says we're the third underdogs.

[PFT Commenter]

Both of you. I love, by the way. This is. I could tell that like you. Because, you know, you're in. You're big time circles now. You're going to cons. You're going. You're on red carpets. You're just sure everyone's.

[Stavros Halkias]

Go see Begonia in theaters.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone's.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm sure there's gonna get. I'm sure Begonia. I'm sure the art house film I was in is gonna get A big bump from pmt.

[PFT Commenter]

New York Times is like, he's our. He's our beacon of hope in toxic male culture. You're the hottest thing in the world. But no one asked you about the Ravens. When you go to all these places. And we'll still ask you about the Ravens.

[Stavros Halkias]

Thank you. No one asked me about the Ravens. And if they do, they think I'm. I am actually a racist who loves Joe Flacco more than my children. Like, that's been the biggest Curse of the Ronnie characters. People don't understand I'm making fun of them. So thank you for letting me get my actual opinions out there.

[Big Cat]

Something about Flacco.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

No, there still is something about.

[Big Cat]

I mean, you. You know that you're watching this. You're. You're thanking God that it looks like it's going to be Joe Burrow and not Joe Flacco coming into Baltimore on Thursday on Thanksgiving ruined your Thanksgiving.

[Stavros Halkias]

Either way, just to play against him would have ruined my. It's like the Klitschko brothers would have never fought each other. I would have had to play Joe Flacco on Thanksgiving. That would have hurt my heart every time he got touched, I would have been sad.

[Big Cat]

What do you do on. What do the Greeks do for Thanksgiving? What are some traditions that we can. We can educate people about?

[Stavros Halkias]

Well, my family's not a big turkey family, so we did. We just do the. You want to talk about Greek? Right down the middle. Lamb, brother.

[Big Cat]

We.

[Stavros Halkias]

We roast a leg of lamb. We get Greek lemon potatoes going tzatziki. We still have. We'll have some honky, too. We'll. We'll get some Mac and cheese going. We'll get some mashed potatoes. I'm gonna be making Uncle Stavi's down home mash for. That's what I'm bringing to the potluck as well as the lamb. So, you know, we like to get it. We just basically replace turkey with lamb, and that's kind of what we do.

[PFT Commenter]

That's. I mean, turkey's dog shit.

[Big Cat]

No, disagree, Disagree. You guys know how to cook. You guys don't have to cook turkey. You hit.

[Stavros Halkias]

First of all, we. There shouldn't have to be 12 fucking steps to make something delicious. Oh, you got to baste it. It's got to be this fucking temperature. You got to dry brine, and you got to deep fry it. How about I just put a fucking delicious cut of meat in the oven and fucking three hours later it's done?

[PFT Commenter]

My. My house, we do turkey and steak. And the steak's always gone right away, 100%.

[Stavros Halkias]

I. For Christmas, I do a steak. I do a steak, a rib roast. I mean, Thanksgiving is leftover from the time where people were eating fucking gruel for every meal. It was like you worked in the fucking factories and you were eating fucking like, you know, oatmeal paste and shit. That's why turkey was fucking good. It's because it was started back then. Now we have everything at our fingertips. I'm not fucking settling for peasant for the peasant bird, thank you very much.

[Big Cat]

How much does this have to do with the fact that it's called turkey? And you as a Greek have to have to absolutely despise. If it was called, like, Paris, it doesn't help.

[Stavros Halkias]

I do remember as a child thinking, like, that's why my dad didn't like eating it.

[Big Cat]

It.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, we were. We really were indoctrinated from a very young age to hate the Turks, which we have gone, we have gotten out of now. Shout out to. Shout out to, you know, to my brothers on in the Levant.

[Big Cat]

Listen, if you deep fried turkey, it is the. It's the best meat that you can have. Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

If you deep fried jizz, it's pretty good.

[PFT Commenter]

Probably.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm still not eating it.

[PFT Commenter]

Deep frying anything is great. Yeah, that's not a good selling point for turkey. Yeah, exactly. All right, so serious question though, because I know you gotta run in a second, but, like, you are the busiest man in the world. Do you feel like you. Have you been accepted by Hollywood elites? Are you in a pedophile ring now? What's going on?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, I keep. I keep refusing invitations.

[Alex Rodriguez]

They.

[Stavros Halkias]

They say JP Morgan Chase bought Epstein's Island. They're rebranding it. They're gonna do it a whole. They're gonna make it a whole Moroccan theme now. They got a whole new chef. Executive chef. It's like when they fucking take over a casino, they do it. They do it with a different style. Yeah, no, I have, yeah, I've been. I'm not there yet. I have not been offered. I've not been offered, except I've not been accepted in the deep pedophile rings. And I will reject those offers, thank you very much.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, everyone says that. Literally everyone says that.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm not, I listen. If it was a big titted fucking. If it was like a caramel colored big titted.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, A milk, they got.

[Stavros Halkias]

Hey, I'm going, brother. Put me. I'm all over those logs. If. If it's a milf Ring if eps. If they need to change it to a MILF island.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, okay.

[Stavros Halkias]

If they change the MILF island, you control F for halkies on Epstein's logs. Your shit's lighting up yellow, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

I need a plush that's gonna look.

[Stavros Halkias]

Like a banana now and later.

[PFT Commenter]

I need a plus one to mill file. And that would be so funny.

[Stavros Halkias]

Why can't there be violence?

[PFT Commenter]

Why can't there be just some regular Hollywood dudes? Like, yeah, we got caught up in MILF Island. It was just a bunch of women in their 40s with. With huge cans, huge tits that know.

[Stavros Halkias]

How to suck dick like a animal. Come on, dude. They've got. They've got years of experience. Yeah, I'm on MILF Island. Israel can have videos of me getting sucked off by two MILFs. They're not going to be able to use that as blackmail. Believe me.

[Big Cat]

That's going to be.

[Stavros Halkias]

I put that out there. Put that out.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's Macron's jet. MILF Island. Old teachers get some old teachers on there sucking you off? Ye. This lady taught me. This lady taught me algebra in seventh grade.

[PFT Commenter]

Now.

[Big Cat]

Now she lives on an island with me, and it sucks me off when I want it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sounds good. For MILF Island.

[Big Cat]

Have there been any humiliation rituals that you've been put through?

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, Hollywood has not put me in a dress yet. Not yet. But, you know, I. I would. I'm considered. I would probably do that. If I'm being honest. I don't have a problem with that.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it when you're on the red carpet, though, like, at some of these events? Are you. Are you conscious sometimes of being like, what the fuck am I doing here? These people?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, dude.

[PFT Commenter]

Gorgeous, dude.

[Stavros Halkias]

So I'm in vet. I'm at the Venice Film Festival on the red carpet, right? And I'm in a car with. Hilariously, it's me and Alicia Silverstone, and I'm in a tuxedo. The guy they take, you know, fucking. Somebody opens the door and they, like, escort Alicia Silverstone. And I'm supposed to go next on the red carpet. They just skipped me because they thought I was a bodyguard. They didn't even consider that I could be on the red carpet. I had to be like, hey, hey, I'm actually. I'm in the movie. All the Italians were like, like. And they were like, mad, dude, the pop. I've never seen paparazzi more pissed off as, like, me blocking Emma Stone from them getting a shot of her, like, move. We're trying to get the famous people. You gargoyle.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I do want to watch Begonia. Yeah, you, you, you. You kind of threw some shade at us in our audience thinking we wouldn't appreciate the. The nuance and.

[Memes]

No, I'm kidding.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know you're behind.

[Big Cat]

I would love Bugonio. Looks like it's a great movie, so I can't wait to watch it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah, check it out. It is very good. It's really good. Jesse Plemons, Emma Stone, Aiden Delbis. I mean some of the best acting and I was just happy to be there. And Yorgos Lantimous, one of the best directors.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, so I know you got to run to a flight, so I got one last question. Roback.com rhobac.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts roback.com promo code take since we're going to air this the day before Thanksgiving, give us your thoughts on are what's the final score of the Ravens Bengals game and are the Ravens they're going to the playoffs?

[Memes]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Are they?

[Big Cat]

Of course.

[PFT Commenter]

They're winning the Super Bowl. What? Oh, they're winning the Super Bowl.

[Stavros Halkias]

They're winning the Super Bowl. It's fated to be. We're going as the fucking wild card. We're gonna fucking be underdogs in every round and we're gonna fucking, we're gonna fucking get revenge on everyone. This will be, this is how it's done. Fuck the Colts. You know, we will finally avenge them for taking the team away from us. We should have won that one year with Steve McNair but they fucked our asses. We get it back, you know, talking to Mill Filand. We're going to fucking take over. Speaking of their new owner, you know, their new owner, that's. We will, we will avenge the Ursay bloodline for taking our fucking team away. We're fucking beating you. We're beating whoever the fuck comes in front of us. Hopefully we get to play the Bills or the Chiefs to be whoever to, to be crowned the true underdog of these playoffs. We're going to f this, this is how it was meant to be. Lamar's going to wake up right at the right time. He's going to get healthy right at the right times and our defense is going to be awesome. Special team is going to be awesome and stuffy.

[Big Cat]

There is a path that I could see through the playoffs that is wild card against the Colts. Divisional round against the Broncos at the Broncos. And then you Guys, the AFC championship game at the New England Patriots revenge tour. Oh, Revenge Tour Run 2012 back.

[Stavros Halkias]

I'm rooting for that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, the Colts owner is.

[Stavros Halkias]

Is.

[PFT Commenter]

She's a queen. We love her.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know you guys say that because they. No, I know you have to say it because they gave you the. That stupid banner or whatever.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, if you're an owner, I would. I would call. I would play in on the team if I was.

[Big Cat]

No, she's.

[Stavros Halkias]

She is cool. It actually pisses me off that it's the first Ursa I respect.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

Because, like, they did take the team and then it was very easy to make fun of the guy who died. May he rest in. Rest in peace. Hopefully he's taking Xandex in heaven right now. But I do respect. I do respect her because she's in the mix. She's trying to learn about football and I. I like that she made some win now moves. That's what more owners need to do it. Believe in your team. Don't try and penny pinch like, you know, shitty owners. Actually try and make your team better. But yeah, I. I do have to come back. I have general football theories. I literally have to run or I'm gonna.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Okay. All right.

[Stavros Halkias]

All right.

[PFT Commenter]

We love you.

[Big Cat]

Buy my calendar.

[Stavros Halkias]

The 2026 calendar.

[PFT Commenter]

There you go.

[Stavros Halkias]

You know, I'll send you a link. Great stuff.

[Memes]

All right.

[Stavros Halkias]

I can't. Yeah, we'll talk more. Hopefully. Hopefully when the Ravens are going into the playoffs, maybe we can fucking catch up, boys.

[PFT Commenter]

Perfect.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is Alex Rodriguez, a Rod. He's here. He has a new documentary out. And we also want to talk Timberwolves, baseball, everything. But let's start with the documentary Alex versus a Rod. I watched it. It was awesome. It's three parts on HBO Go. Watch it now. It was really, really great because it felt like it was maybe. And you could tell me if I'm wrong. The first time that you. You told everything, you let everything out there, what made you decide that this was the time to do that? Because it was. It was fascinating to watch.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Yeah. I'm Dan. Look, I've known you a while, and thanks for having me on your show. Obviously, I'm a huge fan of your show. You guys, guys are killing it. And you guys kind of wrote the book and just being authentic, right? And I think I've been overwhelmed with how positive, honestly, the response was. I got a little PTSD that everything I do, I think you're going to get slammed. And this has been exact opposite. But I thought it was important to do this now because my daughters are now, you know, 21 and 17. I wanted them to make sure they were okay with it. And not only were they okay with it, they were excited about it. And my young daughter Ella said to me, who you've met, she said, alex, I mean, dad, if you're gonna do this, we're gonna do this. And we're Gonna be raw, we're gonna be real, and we don't want to see any more apology tours. This is our story and that's it. And I thought, reflecting back on it as I think about, you know, the next generation of young athletes, young women, young men, really, anyone in. In between, the. The ability to talk about mental health is a real important topic, and I hopefully can inspire and save some people's, you know, future.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It is refreshing to hear you speak honestly about some things that you've. You've kept very close to yourself for, you know, decades. In some cases, it must have also been pretty nerve wracking because they are things that you've guarded, and for the first time, you're going to talk about them openly, honestly. And you were probably pretty nervous going into that. Might have felt uncomfortable. Was there one thing that you were most fearful of opening up about and then what has the response been after you opened up about that thing?

[Alex Rodriguez]

I think, yeah, it's a great question. I think everything really. I mean, when you. When you let it eat like that, I mean, those, that, those. I mean, some of my teammates called me and go, dude, what the hell? I didn't know about your father. I'm like, nobody knows about my father. Right? That's how close. And I'm very close with my teammates. CeCe went to the premiere and a couple other my teammates were like, oh, my God, I had no idea about that game in Minnesota where, you know, he went to those. Only four games of my career, I think, just walking everyone. I mean, the biggest. The toughest thing was, like, reliving those moments, open up those wounds, which, you know, were very painful. The stuff that I put on myself, right? And you get some PTSD because, like, when you do things, like, you get hammered. But this has been exact opposite, like, putting everything out there. The response that I've gotten from universities about mental health, from just people that are in the work field, people that have been thinking about doing therapy and they just honestly appreciate it for the first time. Seeing the very raw, best version of myself, I guess.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The father part was something I didn't really know and for people who go watch it, but. But your dad one day just kind of walked out of your life when you were a kid. And I thought even like the most striking part to me of the documentary is like, having these people who are very close to you speak honestly, like your ex wife. Even saying, like, that was something he was always chasing. I don't know how many guys would have Their ex wife talk on a documentary about their life. Like, like she did and she did a great job. But like, you know, was it something that you consciously. When did, when was the moment that you realized, like, yeah, I probably was overcompensating for the fact that I, my dad, who I was very close with, just got up and left in the middle of, you know, my childhood. And then I became the man and I became the guy that everyone put their pressure on. Did you have a moment even maybe happened during this where you're like, oh, yeah, this is a lot of who I am is because of what happened there?

[Alex Rodriguez]

Yeah, no, I think, I think the reason why, you know, I put it, I started doing this work over 10 years of therapy and I'm still in it, in therapy. You know, I was saying, like in good days, I'm kind of of like starting to round second. Most of them are still at first base. You know, we're all in this great journey. But I had no idea then that I was, I would act and behave the way I would because I was so locked in, almost like, like Rambo, just like trained to kill, trained to play baseball. And I knew that was my responsibility to take care of my family because I wanted to be all the things that my father couldn't do for us, at least financially. But what I was realizing that as great as I got to be as a baseball player, I was becoming more detached from reality, from self awareness. My ego was getting inflated. But I think more than the ego, it was just the lack of self awareness. And when I talked about Dr. David, for some of the listeners who haven't seen the documentary, Dr. David, who I think saved my life, he helped me rewire the brain to really understand other people and understand my place in life. And that was a huge disconnect I had at 21, when I was second in MVP, I looked like I was 28 years old as a man in a maturity. And I was like seasoned veteran at 21. But as a man, I was, I still had the development of a 12 year old.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. I mean I, I've always said, because I, I do know you pretty well. And I think that people don't realize that being the biggest deal when you're 16, you know, you were, you were at 16 years old. Everyone's like, look at this kid from Miami who's incredible at baseball, being 1:1, having all of that at a very young age. It probably stunts a lot of your growth because you don't have the regular, hey, I'm a drunk college kid hanging out, making mistakes. You have the lights bright on you from very, very young age and you just can't, you can't cope with it the way that some of us are able to when we're later on in life.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Yeah. I mean, look, that's a great point. And what I will tell you is this is that, and I say this for my daughters as well, is I don't wish anyone, and it's counterintuitive. Right. I don't wish anyone that type of success and the type of fortune that early in your life because it does the opposite of creating great character and grit. Right. I remember as an 18 year old when I first got called up to the big leagues, just a few months removed from my high school prom. You know, a few months before that, my teammates like Griffey and Buhner and Randy Johns, these guys were all going to a bar in Boston and they're like, alex, you want to come? And like, I'm like, I'm three years away from being able to enter a bar.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Alex Rodriguez]

And that was the first time that I was like, so far, like my life was going in a different direction professionally. But obviously what suffered the most was my personal development. Maybe I needed to be with you, Cat, drinking a couple kegs and just having a little bit of fun.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, but it's a real thing. When you're 18, you're not supposed to have that type of responsibility and pressure on you and you don't have the normal, hey, I'm fucking around, I can make my mistakes. All your mistakes are very public and it's, it's, it's a lot difficult. I think we, I think we're getting better also as like a society of seeing athletes not just as these perfect people, but flawed humans. Like you're. That was the big takeaway from this documentary is like, like you're, you're a flawed guy, but we're all flawed in some way.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Yeah. I love, I love the Mike Francesa who I thought was great. I thought Kay was great. I mean, just to have my, my ex wife who's still my best friend and co parent to our two daughters, Natasha and Ella. Like, I'm so proud of her to be able to go there and be so brave. Like, I've gotten a lot of response from people who are divorced who don't have an optimal relationship. So that was a thing. The way my daughters have grown up because of my help with Dr. David and our relationship. And then what I've been able to do after my baseball career and started with you with our podcast, which is.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot of fun.

[Alex Rodriguez]

So all those things, this is stuff that I've been working now for north of 12 years. So I think it would have been super disingenuous and probably old. Hey, Rod would have done documentary in the middle of my thing and been like, no, I didn't want anybody to know about it. That was the hardest thing I had to do. And then reflecting so many years later, I think letting people know that it's okay to get help, as a matter of fact, I was so broken. I don't know how people can do it without some help.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, no, it's a great point.

[Big Cat]

And the situation that you were put in is just. It's an unwinnable thing for the brain. I mean, you obviously had a great career and you lived up to every expectation that was put on you at such a young age. But from a young age, you're told, okay, you're the next big thing. You're going to be one of the greatest baseball players. Then you go into a career where you actually fulfill on what people have already set in front of you. You're feeling great about yourself, you make a choice and you sign a big contract with a different team. Now all of a sudden, the entire world is like, we hate this guy. After it's been nothing but love for the start of your career. Did that surprise you? Did that, did that, did that shock you when you signed with. With Texas about how much hate you would get compared to, you know, like in. In modern day baseball, you're a free agent, sign a big contract, and everybody's like, that's awesome. Good for that guy. But the hate that you got at the time, it feels like it would have messed up anybody that had been told, you're the greatest, you're going to be a great baseball player. Everybody loves you.

[Alex Rodriguez]

You're very intuitive. Because if you fast forward to that was 20, 21, I mean, 2001, and if you fast forward 25 years, you know, when Juan Soto almost gets a billion dollars and Shohei Ohtani, they're celebrated like icons, as they should, because they earned it. No one gave them anything. So if you looked at me, if we look now and I go, let's play a trivia question, and you look back in my career and say, what will you get destroyed for signing a big contract where you earn it? And at that point, I hadn't even jaywalked yet. You know, just an innocent kid that came up in Seattle battle that or would you get destroyed for this documentary? I would have gone 100 to zero. This documentary. I will be destroyed. Why would anyone destroy. And it's been exact opposite.

[PFT Commenter]

Right?

[Big Cat]

Huh?

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Alex Rodriguez]

It's just live and learn, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's weird. I think. I think the one, the only misstep I think you made when you signed that contract was you were like, yeah, I signed it because I wanted to play for a winner.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

When you went to the Rangers and.

[Alex Rodriguez]

That was do it again, I was like, yes. You know what? My mom collected food stamps at the age of 12. I'm chasing the money because it's a once in a lifetime opportunity.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it difficult talking about the steroids part of it? Because I know obviously that's. That follows you and it's. It's. Obviously you have to talk about it. You have to get into it, but it also does sometimes take away from the fact that you were a really good player without steroids. So it's not like something like, hey, you were a guy who was a flash in a pan and then took steroids and then hit 50 bombs. Was it hard, though, to bring up all that stuff and talk about all of it again?

[Alex Rodriguez]

Yeah, it was very difficult, for sure, Kat. But, you know, when I think two of the most important years of my career and it's just like a win for myself, I think is when I had, like, the best year of my career was probably when I was 20 years old where I won the batting title and I hit.358 and hitting, you know, behind Griffey and with Edgar Martinez. I had such a great bunch of mentors there and Lupinello.

[Hank]

Course.

[Alex Rodriguez]

And then at the end of my career at 40, I had another amazing year. And that was like, after the suspension. So if you bookend those. For me, that told me a very important story that I don't need any of that stuff, which was very important. Was it difficult? I've had a lot of friends ask me, like, why would you get into this? Why not just brush it under the rug? I said, no, that's exactly the point. We got to highlight my flaws.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Because there's other kids. Hopefully there's a new young kid who's 15 who wants to be like, the next A Rod or the next Jeter or the next Griffey. And they can look at my mistakes and learn from them, and then they can be the best version and go to the hall of Fame and use something that I didn't need, obviously. And it was a dumb ass mistake that I made and, you know, but after the therapy, fellas, one thing I'm proud of is I'm proud of everything. The highs, the lows, the good, the bad and the ugly. Because that's just a person that just made a mistake. This is not a baseball documentary. If you want a baseball documentary, you're going to be very disappointed. I think this is just a journey and a mental health story about someone who's just trying to figure it out as a regular person.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think the hall of Fame will ever come calling? I mean, it's, we're, we're pro. Like, you got to tell the story of baseball and you're part of the story of base. You're a very big part of the story of baseball. So is Barry Bonds, so is Mark McGuire. Like a lot of these guys, so is Bud Selig. It seems, yeah, it seems foolish to us. So do you in your brain, like, if I, if we hit you with truth serum, you're like, yeah, someday I'll probably get in.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I can't go that far. I can say that I'm hopeful.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Alex Rodriguez]

But if I don't get in, I mean, I can just look in the mirror and see that's the person's fault, it's my fault. Right. But I'm hopeful and it'll be a great day. But also the difference is I'm not tied to it. And I think my first indication is a rod with 696 home runs. When I get those three phone calls from those three other teams, I would have gone to Taiwan, I would have gone to Japan, I would have gone to Tokyo, you name it, China to get those four home runs. And the fact that I was able to walk away and I didn't need those four home runs to validate me. That was the first step of growth that I was really proud of.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Alex Rodriguez]

About the hall of Fame, do you.

[PFT Commenter]

Think you could hit four home runs if I gave you a full season right now?

[Alex Rodriguez]

Yeah, I do.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I do too. Absolutely.

[Big Cat]

We should, because it's. Is it Johan Santana that retired? Like, I think he had 1980 something strikeouts. One team should sign him, another team in the division should sign you. And then every time you guys play each other, you face off whoever reaches a milestone first. Also think about how much money that those home run balls would be worth. Oh, to the lucky people in the stands, to the people taking their kids, their families to the game. Have a chance to catch a 3 million dollar home run from a Rod.

[Alex Rodriguez]

That'S a great point. I mean, I would just need a couple ambulances because after the games I'm gonna have to like, going to take care of my body. Yeah, but, but the other thing is like today, I mean, you can hit 200 and strike out 200 times and you get a five year contract. So maybe I do have a chance.

[PFT Commenter]

That means the funniest thing you could do is, is come back, hit four home runs, and then get busted for steroids again. That would be hilarious.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Fourth documentary.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I love it. There you go then. It keeps feeding itself.

[PFT Commenter]

So funny. Yeah, he wanted the four home runs. What the you gonna do?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. 45 years old, you start your own podcast again. And then you. Then you do like updates on being. You know, they asked me to pee into a cup and they're like, I didn't do the steroid. You deny it on your podcast, and then like a week later you admit, yeah, I think this is.

[PFT Commenter]

We got some legs here.

[Big Cat]

Good business plan. Back to the, the, the moment that you decided that you were going to take peds for the first time, though, because I don't think. It doesn't make you a bad person. You realize that now, right? Like, like you may. You made a choice. You're not happy with the choice that you made at the time, but you made that choice for a reason. So what, what was the reason that you decided? Okay, yeah, let's give this a shot.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Well, I, I think I, I got into it in the documentary and I talked about, you know, not being able to. It was hard to get out of bed. You know, I had two. I've had two hip surgeries, two knee surgeries. Felix Hernandez hit me with a change up and broke my thing. And honestly, I just couldn't get out of bed. And, you know, I don't want to kind of spoil the. What I said in the documentary. So it's a little shameless plug here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Ultimately, I knew that once I crossed that line with hgh, it was a wrap and I knew I was on the wrong side of history. So I think just the want to get out there and perform. The sad thing is, in that time, I think I averaged over 40 home runs in my career. In that time, I think I hit five or six home runs. So it was just a show, no matter how you look at it.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So I, I've watched the first. I think it was the first episode and, and half of the second episode. It's really good. I'm gonna finish it. I recommend everybody go out there and they take a look. You're talking about being able to come clean about all these moments in your past so far. And maybe you address it in the second half. I don't know. But there's a big thing that maybe I'll give you the opportunity to come clean about right here. The centaur painting inside your apartment that you denied to us last time we asked you about it, you denied. Is it. Is it a minotaur? Is that. What is that we're off about?

[PFT Commenter]

Or is it technicality?

[Big Cat]

Maybe it's not a painting. Is it a sketch? Is it charcoal?

[Alex Rodriguez]

It's such a great story that I don't want to spoil it, and. And I would have it, but I'm just not that creative, to be quite honest. I just have, like, you know, silly things at my house. Like, you know, those are silly.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's very similar.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I wish. Was that clever. Not a bad idea, but.

[PFT Commenter]

So you had it or you didn't have it?

[Alex Rodriguez]

Never had it. Never thought of it, but I like the idea.

[PFT Commenter]

What about the kissing the window? The.

[Alex Rodriguez]

The mirror thing that I did? That was a mirror.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Stavros Halkias]

And that was.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I'm. I've been there, like, seven hours. And the guy goes, I have one. One more shot. One great idea. Yeah, that.

[Stavros Halkias]

One more shot.

[Alex Rodriguez]

He's like, why don't you get up against the mirror? It's very artistic. And. And then obviously, there was Central park, where I laid out. I got some rays.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I think that's a really cool thing. I mean.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. You made of the people.

[Big Cat]

What if we sent you an a rod minotaur or an a rod centaur painting? Like, if we had it done, would you sign it? Would you sign it for us?

[Alex Rodriguez]

I think I will go to studio and do it, and we'll celebrate it and memorialize it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, done.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, done. Yeah. No, we would hang it on the wall.

[PFT Commenter]

Just the artist chilling with Chels will make it for us. Yeah, we'll have you sign it and we'll put it up in the. In the studio. I love that. All right. I want to talk a little baseball. And then Timberwolves. Baseball is in an awesome place right now. The pitch clock has been incredible. That was one of the best world series we've ever seen. Are we going to get a lockout? I really don't want one. I feel like we're in trouble. Tell me that we're not in trouble.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I'm hopeful that we have so much momentum. And I agree with you, Kat. This is the best baseball spin in 10 years. I think Rob Manfred has done an incredible job with the time clock, with the basis. I mean, the pace of the game. I've watched almost every pitch, almost every pitch of every World series started in 1985 when the Royals beat St. Louis and Brett Saberhagen threw that complete game. And, you know, George Brett hugs him. Of course, your Cubbies, great year. But I think having three iconic games in seven games with, you know, Yamamoto and all the superstars, I think there's so much momentum and finally we have so much tailwinds. I think you have very smart people at the very top that understand that, and hopefully they can come to a resolution quicker, faster, rather than, you know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. Because it just feels like it's. We're in a moment in time where it's like baseball feels. Because baseball ebbs and flows. It's struggled at times because it becomes very regional. But that World Series, like that is the momentum right there. That was one of the best. I mean, it really was. It was just every single moment. I also, by the way, I didn't realize you said this in the documentary. You're such a baseball nut that you would come back after a game and watch your game back like once or twice. That's insane.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Well, the whole. I mean, after you see this documentary, you will realize that I am insane.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Just watching that.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I think Cynthia talked about it. My ex. In the documentary. Not only would I watch my bats, because back then you had to actually watch the whole game to watch four at bats. You don't have, like the iPad now that everything is so easy. So that was one. And then I would have three games from the West Coast. You know, I have the Dodger game, the Giants game and the Mariners game. So it had four TVs. My wife wanted to kill me at the time. Yeah, that was what I would do.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. True baseball nut.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Alex Rodriguez]

So one more thing on the World Series is to put a button on it just to celebrate it and memorialize it. The fact that you had 51 million people watching. When you include the three markets, US, 27 and a half million, you have Toronto, Canada, and then you have Japan. I mean, these are NFL football numbers in baseball, which it proves that when you have a good product and a good pace and great strategy and seven games, baseball hopefully is here to stay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was incredible. And you have unique perspective on this given your, you know, an owner of the Minnesota Timberwolves. You were a baseball player for a long time. How do you see the negotiations playing out, like if you, if you're, if it's Alex versus a rod and you're negotiating against yourself from those two perspectives, like, what do you see being the ultimate compromise for baseball if we want to make sure that we have a season going in the future?

[Alex Rodriguez]

Oh, boy, that's a great question. I mean, you know, the Dodgers have become the powerhouse of powerhouses. I mean, they're one of two teams in sports that surpassed the $1 billion. Top line revenue is the Dodgers and the Cowboys. And when you have a team like Tampa that makes somewhere like let's say a buck fifty. When we have the same question in five years, it's probably going to go to a billion five to 175. So the rich keep getting richer and it makes it really, really tough for these secondary and tertiary markets. So I think there has to be some type of conversation about how do we kind of bring everything a little bit closer to the middle. And I mean, look at Oklahoma City as an example, right? They're like one of the lower markets. They want a title and their favorites to win again. I mean, they don't lose. And just a few months ago, they almost gave three players almost a billion dollars. Right? That's, that's a really healthy league, I think. Could we pull some from the NFL, could we pull some from the NBA? Some the best versions of each and see if we can compromise and make sure the players are happy and the owners can manage it?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I've actually, I've really enjoyed watching you on, on the post game coverage throughout the playoffs, all that. Does it, does it personally affect you when David Ortiz says the Yankees lose?

[Alex Rodriguez]

It hurts my soul.

[PFT Commenter]

It hurts my soul.

[Alex Rodriguez]

You know, Poppy's my buddy. A lot of people don't realize Papi and I came up together at 17 with the Mariners. And so we've been friends for over 30 years. He's just one of one. Jeter was outstanding this year. I thought it was his best year he's had with Fox. And then Kevin Burkhart is just the ultimate point guard. And we had a lot of fun covered this year.

[Big Cat]

It seemed at times like he was, he was spiking the football a little bit like him and Vladdy just going back. What was going through your head when they just kept going back and forth and they just wouldn't stop saying it.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Wake me up from this fricking nightmare. This can't be happening.

[Big Cat]

They loved it.

[Alex Rodriguez]

When you win, when you win, you can spike the ball. And you know, Blue Jays had an incredible. I Still cannot believe they almost outplayed the Dodgers in every game. And the Dodgers show you why they're the world champs. They just find a way to win. Pretty impressive.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Well, how so? So owning the Timberwolves now, how. How is it? What's the hardest part about owning a team that you didn't see coming? That you're like, oh, shit, this is kind difficult than I expected.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Well, we have two teams, so there's never an off season. When there's an off season, you're really dealing with drafts and the business side of things. When you're the other ones in the season, then you have the other draft. And so that is a 365 kind of 247 business. And then I think the hardest part emotionally is that much harder than a player. There's nothing you can do. Like, as a player, you can always go try to grab on a bat and make up for yesterday. Like as an owner, you got to just, you know, cheer louder, change. I mean, you know, just.

[PFT Commenter]

You're helpless. Yeah, but it's so much fun.

[Alex Rodriguez]

It's been such a privilege. And the NBA is just an incredible league with, you know, great leadership with Adam Silver. You have great owners all around the board. I mean, I sit in the boardroom and it's really like a pinch me moment that, you know, someone that with my history can sit in that room and live out my dream. I'm incredibly grateful for that opportunity.

[PFT Commenter]

I also feel like you've been working on your jump shot. Is that facts?

[Alex Rodriguez]

Yeah, but my jump sucks.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I mean, you see, that's not true. I see you play and I see the clips. You're you. I mean, it's. It's one of those moments like, oh, yeah, he was one of the best players of all time in, in baseball. He probably will be good at basketball too. And you are.

[Alex Rodriguez]

It's called Instagram. Like, don't believe. Like, I only post like the really good things to, like, tell people that I'm a good athlete. But you're not a good shooter.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How, how involved are you in like the, the small stuff around the team when it comes to the halftime performances, when it comes to all that stuff.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I just think big picture. I think, you know, my partner Mark Lore, who's an amazing guy, and at some point, you guys should come and host one of your shows for a couple of days in Minnesota in our arena. We'd love to have you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Alex Rodriguez]

And you know, we have a great bunch of young guys, Anthony Edwards and Randall and you know, we're really excited about our team and our future. I just. Our job is to really set the vision, go hire the best people in the world and let them. And get out of their way. So we have a great team. They do a fantastic job, and we're more like high level.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I would fall into the trap of just being like, let's get. We were talking about the Corgi races the other day that the Lions have. I would be planning all that stuff out. Bring Red Panda back. Let's have Red Panda week here.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I would make all those phone calls that. That nobody else wants to. Wants to pick up. What about the. What's the spread like during the games? Like, if you're watching at the arena, what kind of food situation are we looking at?

[PFT Commenter]

That. It's good.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Pretty good.

[Big Cat]

Pretty good.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Like, I will say, this is. It's a lot healthier in 2025, in sports in general. Like, as a young kid, like, we would have all kind of fried food and fries and burgers today. Like, there's brown rice, there's salmon, there's. Everything's grilled. There's nothing fried. You have shakes. I mean, these guys are just like, you know, Ferrari. So we got to take care of them.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. All right, I got one last question for you, and it's been awesome. Great having you on. When you come to Chicago next, we gotta. I'm going to get the painting done, and then we're going to. Whenever you're in Chicago next, we'll. We'll do a whole. Putting it up and signing it. It'll be awesome. My last. I would.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I would agree with that. As long as you come sit next to me on the floor when we play the Bulls.

[PFT Commenter]

Done. Done. We'll set it up. Yeah, we'll set it up. Absolutely. I want to go to that game. That's.

[Memes]

I've.

[PFT Commenter]

I've only sat. I sat courtside like, one time in my life. It's so insane. Watching the athletes.

[Alex Rodriguez]

We'll make it twice now.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Watching NBA athletes, like. Like just the size and speed that close is. Is. It blows your mind. It really does. All right, My last question. Roback question. Rhobac.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. I'm curious, what. What was. What was Jeter's reaction to the documentary? Because you guys obviously had a history. You had up and you had a friendship. Then it was kind of strained. Then you Became teammates. And he's what, you know, he was front row to all this stuff happening. What was his reaction to the documentary and how's your guys relationship?

[Alex Rodriguez]

Our relationship is great. It's as good as it's been in, I would say over 20 years. And part of it is, Dan is me growing up. Right? Like, I mean, and when I look back now, I'm like, man, I must have been a very difficult guy to deal with. And you know, Derek has great parents, he's a great human being. He's got great character. And obviously looking back is easy to see that he had the maturity at 21 of a 31 year old. And at 31, I had the maturity of a 9 year old. So we were just not in the same wavelength. Where we always jived is we always loved and respect each other's game. We both played every day and we both have one commonality is we wanted to win and win badly.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, Very cool. My last question is a hypothetical situation. Put yourself in the batter's box. You're down by one. Bottom of the ninth inning, two outs, you got a runner on second. Who do you want up, Alex or a rod?

[Alex Rodriguez]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

You gotta go a rot.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I would say a rod gotta go in.

[Big Cat]

I feel like Alex would handle. Yeah, Alex would handle like if he did strike out, Alex would handle the disappointment in. In a more healthy way. But you want to win the game, right? You gotta put, you gotta put a rod up there.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Yeah, you gotta go with the killer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you want a rod in the box. You want Alex at the press conference.

[Alex Rodriguez]

After that may be the most intelligent question.

[PFT Commenter]

There you go.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Intelligent question over the last couple weeks. Thank you for that.

[Big Cat]

Well, I feel, I feel like, yeah, I feel like we're interviewing Alex right now. Right? Yeah, but, but a rod could come out. Like, you never know.

[Alex Rodriguez]

You're funny. You say that every time. Now I get an Uber in cities and all the guy's turn around like, is this a rod or Alex?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should, yeah, you should maybe wear a pin where it's like, like the Fogo de Chow where you flip over the button if you're done with steak. It's like, I'm Alex today. I'm a Rod today.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Alex Rodriguez]

My answer is like, this a rod. You get one star and no tip.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, right, Alex, great guy. All right, well, Alex, thank you so much, man. We, we love having you on. And let's definitely set up. We'd love to come sit core side and you're the best. And Everyone go watch the Alex vs. A Rod documentary on HBO. Can't recommend it enough. And Happy Thanksgiving.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Same to you and big fan of you guys. Keep it going and Happy Thanksgiving. Back to you.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Wings. Sounds pretty good to me.

[PFT Commenter]

We haven't done wings in a while.

[Big Cat]

Do wings.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe do wings every single week.

[Memes]

Maybe some salad.

[PFT Commenter]

I I'm at the point.

[Big Cat]

We've got some bowls.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. Some turkey.

[Big Cat]

Just put it in a bowl.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

It's for having a food hangover. When you wake up with that, you feel like you're pregnant in the morning. Yeah, you're gonna need to book an entire day on the toilet today.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, we were just doing the Uber Eats ad, and I realized that we have gotten to a point now with our Sunday spreads that wings are just a side. They're an automatic side.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Wings have become table bread for us in this office.

[Big Cat]

We toss almost dessert like I usually have dessert wings. I'll eat whatever it is. Like a pizza burger, and I'll top it off. Yeah, yeah. There's always room for wings.

[PFT Commenter]

There's a couple wings here.

[Big Cat]

All right, we're gonna look at the wing menu.

[PFT Commenter]

So we're obviously taping this on Tuesday morning. So we have no idea about some of the injury reports. Lines might move. We're going to lock in our best bets, but we're going to. We're going to rip through the preview, and we also have Jerry's fantasy minute, and we'll give you a touchdown parlay, and then we'll send you off for week 13 and Thanksgiving and all the football and feast week that you can have. So let's start with 49ers at Cleveland Browns. Browns are plus six over, under 39 and a half. I like the Browns should. Us should do shoulder.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, the Niners are coming off back to back wins for the first time since week three. Since then, they've just alternated every weekend. They won two in a row. Short week. You got to roll with Shador. And Kevin Stefanski, he. He tried to do the thing where he's like, I don't want to name a starting quarterback. We all knew that it was going to be Shador because you can't. You can't go away from the hot hand if you're the Browns.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a question. Is Kevin Stefanski racist for not giving Shador Sanders a game ball and instead giving it to Miles Garrett?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a real thing that's being asked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Miles Garrett.

[PFT Commenter]

What are you guys talking about in there. Give it to us.

[Jerry]

That's not why people are mad.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, why they're mad.

[Jerry]

He just. They're saying Kevin Stefans, he just glanced over the fact that Chador was the first starter since 1999 to win them a game. That's why people are mad. They didn't care about the game ball.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, they didn't care about the game.

[Big Cat]

What do you mean? He. He glazed over it.

[Jerry]

You're just like, oh, Shador had had game. That was it.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, he did have a game. He wasn't a normal game. It wasn't like he lit that world.

[Hank]

The longest touchdown pass from a rookie quarterback this year.

[Big Cat]

Really?

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. The. The 66 yard bomb. Doddington Bones.

[Jerry]

That's the main discourse online.

[PFT Commenter]

That's got it.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys, can I. You guys can speak up anytime you want.

[Big Cat]

I mean, the last time this happened was. It was 30 years ago, so I. Maybe he should have made a slightly bigger deal. Maybe not the game ball. Maybe like his game. His game whistle.

[PFT Commenter]

Did he make a big deal when Dylan Gabriel won his first game? That would be the question. He didn't get. Dylan Gabriel did not get a game ball. What?

[Hank]

He didn't win the first one.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. That's a fact. Either way, this Shador discourse is very funny and ridiculous and I can't get enough of it. It's. It's. It's perfect. He's. He's the perfect take machine.

[Big Cat]

Listen, Miles Garrett is. Is playing as good as anybody else in the NFL right now. I. I kind of like the Browns too. Short week for the 49ers. Browns defense is legit. I. I like him. I like. I like Cleveland. What can I say?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I also have in my head the year that the Browns went there. Remember? Or sorry, the Niners, when they look like the best team in football. And they went to the Browns. The Browns won out. Right. The grapple.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there was that one. There was also the Jake Moody game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

From two years ago.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that might have been the one.

[Memes]

I found a tweet.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I might be the same one. Okay. All right, give it to us. First clip.

[Memes]

Kevin, you read it.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. First clip is from Brown's win versus Miami. Gabriel's first win. Stefanski doesn't give a game ball or even mention Gabriel at all. Second videos from yesterday's win vs Raiders Shores for a start. And win. It's a very brief mention, but he does give props to Shador. So myth busted. How are people this upset about A post game speech.

[Big Cat]

I. So I've been thinking about the whole Shador discourse, because Shador got a lot of fans out of nowhere when he got drafted. There was something. He was a little bit polarizing in Colorado, for sure. I'll give you that.

[PFT Commenter]

A little bit.

[Big Cat]

No, he was, he was. But I'm saying, like, there became. I'd never seen this many Shador stands as I had since the point that he's been drafted.

[PFT Commenter]

He's provocative.

[Big Cat]

He's provocative. I think that a lot of it's coming from foreign actors. Check the location on X for a lot of the people that are stirring up the Shador discourse. Yeah, the ones that are like die Hard. Dracina Anderson. Is she real? I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot of India, Bangladesh checking in on the Shador takes.

[Big Cat]

It might be Myanmar. Yeah, I, that's just a thought that I had. Josina obviously has her, her reasons for supporting Shador. I think she's probably very close to, to Dion, who's provided her with some information in the past. She's trying to keep the sources happy. That whole thing. I, I don't understand why you would have a very strong opinion one way or the other about Shador, given his play, but I'm glad that people do.

[PFT Commenter]

For a first start, he looked, oh, you know, okay, push the ball downfield here and there, which they weren't able to do with Dylan Gabriel. So, yeah, I'm, I'm buying a little Shador stock. I'm buying a little.

[Big Cat]

So in a perfect world for the, for the Browns, like, imagine he goes out there against the niners. He's got three touchdowns, 325 yards, 70 completion rate. Are the Browns already thinking about how much they could get for a trade for him? Are the Browns actually going to see that performance and be like, let's roll with Shador next year?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I mean, I think. Shit. Or might be the future.

[Big Cat]

I mean, he is him. I would say that a rational coach and a rational organization would do that. The Browns, though, who knows what they're thinking?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the Browns. So we'll see how Brock Purdy looks after a shaky game on Monday Night Football against a really good defense in Cleveland. Yeah, I think, I think Cleveland, I, I, I'm high on the. But I think Cleveland can stick around in this game in this number.

[Big Cat]

The Browns have won five of seven against the Niners. Whoa, that's got to be up there, like, towards the top of Niner killers of any record against any team for the Browns, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay, next game. Titans six and a half point underdogs over under 42 and a half. What game, by the way, is going to be on main tv? Have we thought about that? It's not. You have. When you have the, the teams that are playing on Thanksgiving and Black Friday, we're left with Texans Colts with. Yeah, I guess Texans Colts would probably be the number one game. Right? I, there's some, there's some, there's some yuck. There's some yucky games. But you know what? Those are usually the Sundays that have the, the craziest shit happen. Texans, Colts is in the running. Cardinals, Bucks. Nah. Yes. Panthers.

[Big Cat]

It's definitely Texas Texas Colts.

[PFT Commenter]

Texan Cults is main tv. I, you know what it is? I'm looking at it right now. It's the fact that the entire AFC south is playing in that same exact window.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Playing each other.

[Big Cat]

If three teams in the same division control their own destiny, does any team really control their own destiny?

[PFT Commenter]

It's a good question.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I do think that we're running out of time on the Titan season. They might be out of it on the AFC South.

[Big Cat]

Right. The Titans.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I know you weren't talking about the Titans.

[Big Cat]

Titans, Titans. I'd say. Yeah. You never know.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The, this game. Can the Jaguars stay? They have to win this game. This is a must win. This is where playing bad teams become must wins down the stretch. Trevor Lawrence. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's my take on Trevor Lawrence.

[Big Cat]

Let it rip.

[PFT Commenter]

Let it rip.

[Big Cat]

So the Jaguars did the thing last week week where they, it's like a new strategy that you see more and more coaches do. The Cowboys did it, the Dolphins did it. Against the Commanders. You go for it on fourth down when you're up by three because you're trying to pin the other team deep. So I, I, I tried to think of a way to articulate why that's the smartest thing to do because I found myself agreeing with the coaches that do that. Even though people are like, what the are you doing? Why are you going forward on the fourth down? Kick a field goal, make them score a touchdown to beat you. It's because of the field position. Yeah, it's, it's entirely because like if you, even if you make the field goal, you're up six points, you still give the other team about, give or take 30 yards.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Worth of field position on the kickoff, which is worth a whole lot in those end of game scenarios.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So like, yeah, if you, if you go forward and score touchdown, that's awesome. You're probably going to win the game. If you go for it and you don't make it, they've got the ball in like the three yard line.

[PFT Commenter]

Alternatively, this is why at the end of a half, I'm okay with kicking a field goal.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Because you don't get the benefit of putting them in a bad field position spot.

[Big Cat]

You don't get that benefit. I'm. Listen, Trevor Lawrence, I don't think he's, I don't think he's like a top tier quarterback, but I think that Liam Cohen's got him doing something right. Even though he stunk last week at times and threw some real dumbass picks, I still, I, I stand by my. Take that. But when Trevor Lawrence is letting it rip and he's doing wild shit and feeling comfortable enough to the point where he's just sometimes throwing stupid interceptions confidently, I think the upside of Trevor Lawrence in that situation is worth the downside to him.

[PFT Commenter]

Here's a weird one for Trevor Lawrence. When he has been tied in a game or trailing in a game, he's 11 touchdowns, two interceptions. When he's leading in a game, he's three touchdowns, nine interceptions. Maybe Trevor Lawrence is just too human. Because I think like that when one of my teams is winning a game. In my head I'm like, this will last forever. We're going to win this game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And so what. What does it matter if I throw it everywhere? So maybe he's just too human.

[Big Cat]

So is that when they're leading, he's.

[PFT Commenter]

Throwing the most of it? Yeah, he's throwing the majority of his interceptions.

[Big Cat]

I thought, I thought it was the opposite for Trevor.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, he's. When leading, I mean, think about it. On. He threw three on Sunday. I think they were leading in all of those. Yeah. So he just gets. When things are going well, they're going too well for Trevor.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he's just like it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna get back to even.

[Big Cat]

I mean, get back to neutral. Things are, things are going well for the Jaguars right now. If you look at the big picture, if you look at the record and you can't, if you're a Jaguars fan, you can't dissect, how did we get these wins? Are these actual wins? Are we good to. You just got to focus on the record and the number of wins that you have. It's the first time, this would be the first time in 20 years for the Jaguars to win four times in November.

[Memes]

Whoa.

[Big Cat]

Pretty crazy, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Whoa.

[Big Cat]

They haven't had. Let's see. They haven't had four wins in the calendar month around Thanksgiving since 2005.

[PFT Commenter]

Whoa.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Jaguars do history, so just enjoy your November.

[PFT Commenter]

Titans, by the way, lead the league in most scoreless halves this season with four. Who's second?

[Memes]

I don't.

[Big Cat]

This is.

[Memes]

I knew as soon as you started saying that. I was like, this is.

[PFT Commenter]

This is.

[Big Cat]

It's a good question. I have no idea. I have no idea who it could be.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm just talking about the Titans we're talking about.

[Big Cat]

This is a trivia question.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a trivia question. Why do you have your tier necklace on the microphone? Chiefs is incorrect.

[Big Cat]

Drip. It's got to be a bad team.

[PFT Commenter]

So I'm gonna say incorrect next game.

[Big Cat]

The Browns guys, incorrect.

[PFT Commenter]

We don't fall. Nope.

[Big Cat]

I hope we beat the command.

[Hank]

Oh, it's the Bears.

[PFT Commenter]

The Eagles.

[Big Cat]

No, it's probably the commands.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they have three scoreless halves this season. The Titans have four.

[Big Cat]

The Raiders.

[PFT Commenter]

No, it was the Eagles.

[Hank]

That was probably early in the year, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, good point. Okay, are you sure it's not the Commanders?

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sure.

[Big Cat]

We're really bad.

[PFT Commenter]

He's still scoring the halves.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's crazy. I got an unexpected stat in this game. We talked about how you can't name a receiver on the Titans. The booth couldn't figure out a receiver. And that's not a slam against the booth. They're a very anonymous bunch that they have out there.

[PFT Commenter]

Who? The booth?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, the. The booth. Did you know that their receiver, slash returner, Chamira dk, he is number one in the NFL in all purpose yards. Oh, that's kind of wild, isn't it?

[PFT Commenter]

Because of the Punisher?

[Big Cat]

Probably because of. Yeah. Kick returns.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he's had a couple.

[Big Cat]

I would assume that, like if you're playing against the Titans, you're kicking off a lot, but still good for them. Yeah, he's number one in the league. He actually has a chance to beat the all time record for all purpose yards.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Kind of something that you would think that people would have mentioned at some point. That is crazy because Darren Sprouls has the record. He said in 2011 when he was on the Saints, that included a bunch of punt returns. That included a lot of stuff. But Chamira dk, just strictly through the incompetence of the Titans defense and their offense, putting other teams in good field position, he might end up setting the all time Record for all purpose yards this season. That's crazy. Which would be wild.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that is crazy. Okay, next game. Texans at Colts. This is our main TV game over. Under 44 and a half. Colts are four and a half point favorites. The Texans are practicing on Thanksgiving. Do we like that or do we think that's maybe. Hey, d', Ameco, chill out.

[Big Cat]

That might be a chill out, man. The offense should practice on Thanksgiving.

[PFT Commenter]

He said. As I told our guys, I told them, hey, we can save that food for another day. This week we're focused on the Colts. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. I hope you enjoy that time with your family. We will be working.

[Big Cat]

They're gonna have like some shitty dry turkey in the, in the team cafeteria like you had at school on Thanksgiving. Like when it was like the, the Tuesday or Wednesday before. Hey, we're doing. We're doing turkey too.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be bad.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The offensive practice, the defense, given the day off, the.

[PFT Commenter]

The Colts. Is this, is this panic button if the Colts lose this game? Yeah, because it would be three out of four, I believe, because they lost the Steelers and they went and beat the Falcons International, then lost to the Chiefs. Yeah, this would be. Hey, what's going on here?

[Big Cat]

I would say panic button and I would say that because it would be a loss to the Texans and depending on what the Jaguars do this weekend. Like you're in a fight.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You're in a knife fight right now. Colts act accordingly.

[PFT Commenter]

You thought you were running away with it. Now you're in a fight. Yeah. Daniel Jones, by the way, versus the blitz, weeks one through eight. He was ranked second since week nine. 20 seconds. So that's not been good.

[Big Cat]

What do we think about CJ Stroud? Is he going to play?

[PFT Commenter]

I think you just gotta ride the hot hand. Davis mills. I think C.J. stroud's gonna play, but I would ride the hot hand.

[Big Cat]

Mills look good.

[PFT Commenter]

Mills is three and. Oh, you can't take a guy out.

[Big Cat]

Who'S three and oh, soft benching.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on. He's three zero. They're soft benching Davis Mills?

[Big Cat]

No, they're. They currently soft benching CJ Stroud?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't know. He's been. Yeah, it's been two and a half weeks. What do you say? Texans coach expects Shroud to come back. Okay, so CJCJ Stroud. I kind of like the Colts in this game.

[Big Cat]

If I was C.J. i'd be like, yeah, my. I'm not thinking straight. I'm having a very high sensitivity to lights. I'll just stay home on Thanksgiving with my family.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'll skip practice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The. The Colts, definitely. Considering the panic button Shane Steichen is thinking about. He's overthinking himself now.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, definitely.

[Big Cat]

He's like, yeah, I. I very much regret not handing the ball off to Jonathan Taylor last week in the fourth quarter. He's been waking up in cold sweats thinking about that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The plays that he wanted to call. Next game. Saints at dolphins. Dolphins minus six over under 41 and a half. The saints have signed Justin Tucker. Have they signed him fully? They know they brought him in. Justin Tucker, Is he a saint? No, Justin Tucker is a saint would be. Hilarious sentence. Didn't finish that sentence. Saints are working out veterans, so they worked him out. Have they signed him? We need to find out.

[Memes]

I don't think so.

[Big Cat]

I don't. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

They probably got to the references check.

[Memes]

But by the time these people are listening. Yes.

[Jerry]

Okay. So the Saints are replacing Blake Groupie. Not with Justin Tucker. With Kate York.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay. So they did a favor to Justin Tucker. This is like, yeah, Justin Tucker was like, can you just bring me in for a workout so that other teams see that. That you're kicking the tires on me? And then maybe I'll be more likely to get an opportunity this offseason. Why? Why is Justin Tucker doing this?

[PFT Commenter]

Also, why are the Saints doing this?

[Big Cat]

Fair question on both sides. But like, Justin Tucker, you've made a lot of money.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Go be anonymous.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Live your life.

[Big Cat]

He probably needs to get out of the house.

[PFT Commenter]

You're still a kicker that most people would not recognize. Go. If you're Justin Tucker, what's his career earnings? $51 million.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. If I were Justin Tucker, I would move to San Diego. I'd live the rest of my life, and no one would know who I am.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I. I think it's just about him wanting. It's a little tough around the house these days. It'd probably be good if he. If he was gainfully employed and got to go somewhere every day.

[PFT Commenter]

But the Saints are just doing this to piss, I guess. Are they doing to piss off their fans, or are they just bringing them in and then saying, we're not signing him. Give us credit.

[Big Cat]

That's one way to look at it. It could also be the Saints, like, hey, don't talk about our shitty season. Get mad at us for bringing Justin Tucker.

[PFT Commenter]

The Dolphins are still alive. We've talked about it before, but the Dolphins have been playing decent football, and somehow they're playing consequential football. It's going to be a very, very long shot for the Dolphins to make the playoffs, but they've won three out of four. They have the Saints this week, the Jets, Steelers and Bengals. So you, like, you could look up and the Dolphins could be there. I don't think that. I think it's still too far for them to climb, but they are playing decent football.

[Big Cat]

Yep. This is. This is your worst nightmare if you're a Dolphins fan.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Win just enough games to have an inconsequential draft pick.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

At least you'll have someone different taking the draft pick now.

[Big Cat]

That's true.

[PFT Commenter]

No more.

[Big Cat]

No more. Chris Greer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Falcons at Jets. Are you ready? Are you ready? Memes +2 and a half over under 39 and a half. You think you're gonna win this game?

[Jerry]

It's possibility.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Anything's possible.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

The jets are in a spot where I just want the season to end.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Jerry]

But they have a favorable schedule where, like, you could see them winning a couple games.

[PFT Commenter]

Can we pull up Tankathon again? Pull up Tankathon. Give us Tankathon.

[Jerry]

And this is. This is one of those games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, this is definitely Kirk Cousins outside cold. This is definitely one of those games, big time. One of those games.

[Jerry]

Jeff Ulbricht revenge game.

[Big Cat]

Wait, is that his revenge against you guys or your guys? Revenge against him?

[Jerry]

His revenge.

[PFT Commenter]

It could go both ways.

[Jerry]

Could go both ways.

[PFT Commenter]

But it'd be awesome if the Falcons played the Browns. Shador gets his revenge.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Against Jeff Ulbricht. Okay. Right now the jets are sitting with the fourth pick. I don't think I'm gonna say it. I don't think the Titans. The Titans might win one more game. I don't know if the Raiders can win another game.

[Jerry]

The Titans play the Saints.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, so. So one of those.

[Jerry]

That's. That's the most valuable one.

[PFT Commenter]

You're rooting for the Saints in that game?

[Jerry]

No, the Titans.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, you're rooting for the.

[Jerry]

And then the Saints play the jets the week after. Saints need to win that game.

[PFT Commenter]

Game. Okay.

[Jerry]

I'm trying to find the path to the first overall pick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there's a path.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, I mean, the Titans.

[Memes]

Wouldn't it be Titans and then Titan?

[Jerry]

Yeah, Titan. Titans beat Saints. Saints beat Jets.

[PFT Commenter]

The Titans.

[Memes]

Giants beat Patriots.

[PFT Commenter]

The Titans being getting the number one pick. Would. They probably would trade it.

[Jerry]

Yeah, but they also have. Yeah, no, they probably would trade it.

[PFT Commenter]

You just can't have the Saints or the Raiders get the number one overall pick. Because they're going to take quarterbacks.

[Jerry]

Correct. So that's why we need to keep losing the. There's also the Raiders play the Giants, so that'll move the Giants out. Got it. You just have to have the same record with the Raiders and Titans because the jet schedule is so easy that it bumps them up before everybody else.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But now if the Titans do get the number one overall pick, you. You have enough draft ammo where you can move up.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Jerry]

You do, but you also. You need those picks.

[PFT Commenter]

You need the ammo. Keep the.

[Big Cat]

Keep.

[PFT Commenter]

You need the ammo.

[Big Cat]

Keep your powder dry.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Need the ammo.

[Jerry]

Yeah. You need all the. The good players you get.

[Big Cat]

Give me a road map to. To win against the Falcons this weekend. What does it look like?

[Jerry]

Couple Kirk Cousins interceptions.

[Big Cat]

I see that.

[PFT Commenter]

And Nick folk.

[Jerry]

Four field goals.

[PFT Commenter]

Close the door.

[Big Cat]

Four field.

[PFT Commenter]

Hear people talking. That was closed. That was closed. They're just talking right outside the studio.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Tell them. Just yell, shut up. Tell them to shut up. Hey, shut up.

[Jerry]

Stop it.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's. Someone's talking about salary.

[Big Cat]

Sounds like shade to me.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, who's in the hall? Is that Che?

[Memes]

I think it was Eddie.

[PFT Commenter]

Who's talking salary cap.

[Big Cat]

Salary cap.

[Memes]

We may need. We may need to bring someone who's.

[Big Cat]

I want to hear White Sox, Dave.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, all right, fine. Let's hear what he said. Salary. Is it baseball? Salary cap.

[Memes]

Is it baseball salary cap? Dave, you have to. You have to come in and talk.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys are talking baseball salary cap the day before Thanksgiving.

[Memes]

I can't hear.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, baseball, salary cap.

[Memes]

I would.

[Zach]

I would.

[PFT Commenter]

I would hear the argument to punt.

[Alex Rodriguez]

On a 2027 season if that meant.

[Big Cat]

Are you talking about the White Sox?

[PFT Commenter]

Are we talking football or baseball?

[Big Cat]

We're talking baseball.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Alex Rodriguez]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Are you talking specific, specifically about the White Sox?

[Memes]

I am not talking about the White Sox at all. I would punt on a 2027 season. As a baseball fan, I would hear the argument, too. I'm not saying I would personally, if that meant there was a healthy. A healthy league from 2027 on.

[Big Cat]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. So we're not talking about. We're not talking about next year in baseball. We're talking about year after two years.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Studio.

[Memes]

I. I got.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

But there's a couple guests here.

[Alex Rodriguez]

They asked me about it.

[PFT Commenter]

Dave. Yeah. Do this. Redeem yourself right now. Pick a number. 6 if you got it right.

[Memes]

What do I. What does that mean if I get it?

[PFT Commenter]

You get memes.

[Big Cat]

Anger memes is going to kill you is what's going to happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Kill you. 36.

[Big Cat]

Close.

[PFT Commenter]

Dave. All right. Thank you, White Sox Dave. Appreciate that.

[Big Cat]

All right, so that's. That was our 2027 MLB season preview.

[PFT Commenter]

And that was our Saints jets preview.

[Big Cat]

Wait, no, no.

[PFT Commenter]

J. Jets Falcons.

[Big Cat]

Sorry, memes.

[PFT Commenter]

You.

[Big Cat]

You have to. You have to finish with your road map.

[Jerry]

Nick Folk. Four field goals.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Two interceptions, four field goals. Jets get the win.

[Jerry]

Jets get the win.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jerry]

It's just depressing. There's just. There's no.

[PFT Commenter]

I agree. This is one of those. There, there are. I'm. I'm gonna say I'm gonna go down the list and I, I don't mean this in a bad way because, look, I'm gonna bet on all these games. I'm gonna watch all these games. But I think most fans would agree that if you look at Sunday's schedule, the Jets Falcons game is depressing. The Jaguars Titans game's not depressing because Jaguars are still in it. But it's could be a tough watch because I don't want to watch the Titans. Just period. The Saints Dolphins game kind of depressing. If it's Teddy Bridgewater versus Jacoby Brissette, that's depressing. There's some depressing games out there.

[Jerry]

I saw somebody say, like, you have to view. When you're completely eliminated in your season's meaningless at this point. You have to view it as the.

[PFT Commenter]

Preseason and guys are playing for Phil.

[Jerry]

Yeah. Don't. Don't get emotionally attached to it. Just treat it as a preseason. See who's going to be on your team next year and that's how you'll cope with the next six weeks.

[Big Cat]

Do you think that Quinn. The team is better without Quinn and Williams and Sauce Gardner right now?

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's kind of crazy, isn't it?

[Jerry]

Yeah, I guess it's just all scheme.

[Big Cat]

Like the last couple weeks.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think the Falcons wish they hadn't traded their first round pick to the Rams?

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you think that's the worst draft decision they've made in the last five years?

[Big Cat]

Nope.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, because I was looking at it the other night. Kyle Pitts was taken fourth overall. Here are the names that were taken after Kyle Pitts. Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Panay Sewell, JC Horn, Patrick Surtan, Devonte Smith, Micah Parsons and Rashawn Slater. Yep. Holy.

[Big Cat]

This is.

[PFT Commenter]

That's insane.

[Big Cat]

Those are the Falcons.

[PFT Commenter]

Those are such good players.

[Jerry]

The COVID draft is. Will go down in history.

[Big Cat]

They constantly think that they're like one piece away.

[PFT Commenter]

And you know what?

[Big Cat]

The craziest Thing is, I bet. I bet some team's going to pick up Kyle Pitts and he's going to be awesome.

[PFT Commenter]

He's going to be sick.

[Memes]

I wanted Kyle Pitts so bad in that draft. Like, he looked so sick.

[Big Cat]

You might get him Howie. How he might do his Howie thing.

[PFT Commenter]

How we. How he did it again. How he did it again. Howie, the. The. The 20, 21 drafts. You're talking about memes. Because that. Yeah. I mean, I can. I can laugh about this draft because the Bears took Justin Fields, you took Zach Wilson.

[Jerry]

The amount of quarterbacks are bad and.

[PFT Commenter]

Every guy after is incredible. Incredible.

[Jerry]

I think the two best guys didn't even play that college season. Mike Parsons opted out and Jamar Chase also opted out.

[PFT Commenter]

It's crazy, man. There's some really good players. Yeah. So that's the Falcons. They did. The Falcons fans deserve better because their team is Arthur Blank. Sell the team. Maybe not. Do they like him? I think he tries hard.

[Big Cat]

I think overall they're mad at him. They're mad him for the results. But he did like lower concession prices.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. He's also in that category of there's certain owners that are try really hard, but they're too dumb to do the right thing. Well, you're trying.

[Big Cat]

Listen, Falcons fans, he turned down Bill Belichick.

[PFT Commenter]

It's true.

[Big Cat]

So just think about that. Take that whatever way you want.

[PFT Commenter]

Also turned out Mike Fable.

[Big Cat]

Also turned down Jordan. That could have been yours.

[PFT Commenter]

Package deal. Okay. Cardinals at Bucks. Bucks minus three over under 44 and a half. We don't know if Baker's going to play. He is not fully injured. Right, Zach?

[Zach]

They haven't ruled him out yet.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Zach]

Just his brain now.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach, you excited to get back to Florida? Have you been back to Florida?

[Zach]

We went in July for a couple of days.

[PFT Commenter]

That's right.

[Zach]

But yeah, this is the longest stretch I've been like out of the state so far. So, like, I am excited.

[PFT Commenter]

What's your first stop when you get back to Florida?

[Zach]

First stop is going to be I'll probably hit the. So I'll probably hit the circle kick.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Hit the house.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Diet Coke.

[Zach]

Pull the prop. That's about it.

[PFT Commenter]

You're just gonna get you Diet Coke. Hits different down there.

[Zach]

I just like the fountain. I like to. I like.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Or.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it's found. Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I love that. I'm so to the best. And that's just. That's so close to my home there that I always rip. I just ripped fountain soda every day. And where my apartment is currently the fountain soda reach is limited.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. What's the. What's the temperature gonna be in Florida?

[Zach]

It's like mid-70s.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man.

[Zach]

80S in the daytime highs. There's one day where it's kind of cold.

[PFT Commenter]

Like.

[Zach]

And by kind of cold, I mean, like, 50.

[Big Cat]

Are you gonna go outside?

[Zach]

I'll be outside.

[Big Cat]

Outside, but inside I'll be like.

[Zach]

Like James some of the days maybe, but I'm definitely gonna try to get all the way outside.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That looks awesome. Look at that.

[Zach]

It's gonna be beautiful.

[Big Cat]

You know what, though?

[Zach]

That one should send me photos by the pool. Like, hey, look at this beautiful day.

[Big Cat]

It wouldn't feel like Thanksgiving.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, it's gonna be so nice, Neil. A cold Liam Cohen. By the way, the Liam Cohen effect is real. He is. Last year, The Jags were 25th in yards per play or yards per game. The Bucks were third. This year, the Jags are 16th and the Bucks are 20th. So they've kind of flipped. It's real. The Bucks are. The Bucks are in. Must win.

[Zach]

Have to win.

[PFT Commenter]

Have to start winning because this is. And. And, like, Abuka's kind of. He had an incredible start to the season. He hasn't really been the same guy since then. You got to start winning.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it kind of. You kind of have to start. If you're still worried about the Panthers.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, yeah, I mean, I think you're a little bit worried about the Panthers, I guess the Panthers play the Rams, so that will be. You expect the Rams to win that game.

[Big Cat]

You want to see the Bucks looking better before the playoffs. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And you just. I mean, they're. They're banged up. You got to start winning some games, Zach, for.

[Big Cat]

Up to you. Does Baker start this weekend?

[Zach]

I don't know. If you play him, I know he's going to really want to play, and we do need the win, but I guess I. I'm not in the train. I don't know how bad this brain is.

[Stavros Halkias]

I just.

[Zach]

I just know how bad it looked, how painful it looked when he went down after they put. After he went back in.

[Big Cat]

And Baker's definitely going to lie about how. How much it hurts.

[Zach]

He's gonna be like, I'm ready to play. Let's go.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It's like when you go to the doctor and they're like, how many beers do you have a week? And you're like, I have. I have about six beers a week. And they multiply that by four. That's what you have to do. To Baker on the smiley face. Pain tolerance chart. You got to skip three guys and go to the right. And that's what he's really thinking.

[PFT Commenter]

The buck schedule, by the way, down the stretch is very easy. They play the Saints, the Falcons, the Panthers twice, and the Dolphins. So if they just split with the Panthers, you would think they were going to. They're going to win the division.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So it's not must win yet yet, but back.

[Big Cat]

But I do think that it's like you. You would rather see the Bucks looking good again.

[PFT Commenter]

Gotta start looking better.

[Big Cat]

Gotta start looking better. Or else.

[PFT Commenter]

Or else. Or else. And then.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, there's nothing else. It's just I'm gonna count down from three, and by the time I hit zero, you better be looking back.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Or else.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey. Yeah. When I. When I get.

[Big Cat]

I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

We're starting at 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. All right. You're going right to bed, lights out. Yep. Sorry, Bucks, you're going to bed.

[Big Cat]

That's such a good trick for kids to just turn the lights out and they're like, oh, my God, we're in trouble.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, next up, we got Rams at Panthers. Panthers are ten and a half point underdogs. I feel like the Rams are going to win. I don't know if they're going to cover. Rams are the best team in the NFL. I'm pretty much.

[Big Cat]

I got Rams cover against pretty much everybody.

[PFT Commenter]

They cover against everyone and they're the best team in the NFL.

[Big Cat]

Well, yeah. So I think it's a fair analysis of this game.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, hot seat, Aaron Rodgers. Devonte Adams said, I'm having the most fun playing that I've ever had. Aaron Rogers and Derek Carr.

[Alex Rodriguez]

You're.

[PFT Commenter]

That actually tracks. Who would you rather get a beer with? Matthew Stafford, Aaron Rodgers or Derek Carr? That's Matthew Stafford.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that definitely tracks. Wait, who's a quarterback on the jets when he was on the Jets?

[PFT Commenter]

Aaron Rodgers.

[Big Cat]

Aaron Rodgers. Who else? Who's the backup, though?

[PFT Commenter]

Memes?

[Big Cat]

Mike White.

[Jerry]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach Wilson.

[Hank]

Flacco.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Memes]

No.

[Jerry]

Tyrod.

[PFT Commenter]

Tyrod.

[Big Cat]

Appear with tirade would be okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, he'd be good.

[Big Cat]

But yeah. Yeah. Matt. Matt Stafford.

[PFT Commenter]

By far, Devonte Adams has 12 touchdowns this year. Is that right? Jesus Christ. Played 11 games, all he does is catch him.

[Big Cat]

That's crazy. And I think they're getting tutu back. Ooh.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. The Rams are rolling. The Rams are rolling. And the Panthers. I don't trust them.

[Big Cat]

No, I just don't.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think. I don't think they can. I don't trust them at All.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. On strength of schedule, the Panthers also have the third hardest remaining schedule.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. So the Bucks really don't have to worry.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, can really just be that would the third hardest. That was before Monday Night Football.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So it's probably still pretty hard.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. No, they played the last three games. Are bucks. Seahawks bucks. Yeah. That's not easy.

[Big Cat]

Now I'm rooting for the Panthers. I want that, I want that division to be interesting. I don't like runaways. I want to see, I want to see Panthers in the. The circling graphic. The circling. Sniffing around in the hunk graphic.

[PFT Commenter]

Last night they had the seat at the table and then they had the people outside banging on the windows.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

The big boy table and then they. The little kids table.

[Big Cat]

I like lurking. Yeah, lurking's good.

[PFT Commenter]

Lurking. Sniffing around. Vikings at Seahawks afternoon game. Seahawks are 10 and a half point favorites over unders 41 and a half. Nine is in concussion protocol.

[Big Cat]

Yep. So let's all pray for nine. Hope he's okay. It sounds serious. He developed concussion like symptoms after the game on the plane. Reported them immediately. And you got, you gotta be healthy. Yeah, he probably had a concussion when he threw those interceptions.

[Memes]

Does.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you guys seen. Has Kurt Warner said anything bad about any quarterback ever?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I feel like there's been some.

[PFT Commenter]

Guys that he hates because, and I, I, I like Kurt Warner. He's been a guest on the show. Obviously he knows way more football than we do. He is the savior for. If you have a quarterback and you're looking for positive spin zones. I know I've gone to Kurt Warner when I've needed that. And I know Vikings fans are going to Kurt Warner right now when they need it. It's just, he's perfect. He, he's, he's out there. And when you, when you watch your team lose in bummer fashion, you just gotta be like, all right, well, we'll wait till Kurt Warner talks about it and he might give us a different perspective. He's doing that with nine saying it's not all that bad. He's got to work on his, his fundamentals, his mechanics. But don't give up on nine is what he's saying.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm not going to give up on nine.

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

Not. Can't do it.

[PFT Commenter]

What if Max Brosmer's awesome?

[Big Cat]

Right. When you give up on nine, that's when you get nine, mind. That's when, that's when you get you.

[PFT Commenter]

What if Max Brosmer is awesome?

[Big Cat]

I guess.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's thrown like seven Passes.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the Max Bros Were game is coming. No, it's going to be Sam Darnold. Sam Donald's gonna kick their ass.

[Big Cat]

It's gonna be Sam Darnold on the revenge tour. I have a prediction about this Viking season.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Obviously we're talking about nine. The concussion thing. Some are saying soft cte. I don't. I don't know. At some point, if it keeps going this way for, for jj, we're going to get some leaks from. From the Vikings about guys that didn't want to draft him in that building. Yep. We're going to get leaks from guys being like, this offseason. I wanted to keep Daniel Jones. Yep. We're going to get leaks saying, I can't believe we let Sam Darnold out of the building.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

There's going to be somebody that's going to want to. To maybe not necessarily take credit for it it, but make sure that the public knows that it was not him who made the decision on J.J. mcCarthy.

[PFT Commenter]

A huge draft mistake. What's the. What's the old saying? Victory has a thousand sons. Failure's a widow.

[Big Cat]

Failure is an orphan.

[PFT Commenter]

Orphan.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Failure has far too many fathers. No, that's the opposite.

[PFT Commenter]

Victory. It's a great saying.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

So I'm looking it up.

[Big Cat]

Failure is an orphan.

[PFT Commenter]

Failure is an orphan. Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

I like it. That's. That's what's going to happen. I. I'm buying it. On the Sam Darnold revenge game.

[Big Cat]

Oh, for sure.

[PFT Commenter]

Even though I think he probably is happy that. That Kevin o' Connell took him in and, and made him a lot of money and got him a starting job in Seattle, and he's living his best life. He's won the breakup, but still, he's got to be a little bit. Like, that was kind of shitty. I. I'm good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I played really good last year until the last. Last two games. And then you. You thought you had something better. Turns out I got something better. The only thing about this is, you know that Brian Flores is just going to blitz the. Out of him.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, this is. He's. He's done in practice. He probably wasn't allowed to blitz Sam Darnold the way that he really wanted to in practice last year. So this is going to be the. The first time that he's going to get to be like, see what I could have done to him last year.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

If you just let me coach.

[PFT Commenter]

What do we think? Do we see J.J. mcCarthy again this year. Year.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I think you have to. If you're the Vikings, you have to. No matter how bad it's been, you got to see what you got.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

What do you think, Hank?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You see J.J. mcCarthy see nine buying in on nine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

The nine people have gone silent.

[Big Cat]

They have.

[PFT Commenter]

Greer was just posting.

[Memes]

That's not true.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, they're doing. They're doing, like, when you make fun of nine, you're making fun of a new father. Right. That's. That's where we're at on the 90s.

[Memes]

You're making fun of head injuries.

[Alex Rodriguez]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

You don't respect.

[Memes]

You don't respect cte.

[Big Cat]

That's a good point.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And a new dad.

[Memes]

That's the only one that. I think that's the only one I got.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, a lot of. A lot of that. I can't believe you'd be. He's a father. He's a. He's a husband, he's a Christian. He's a leader.

[Memes]

The only reason he played so bad was because he was playing with the concussion.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, he got concussed with four minutes left in the game. When you're.

[Big Cat]

No, Max is right. We don't know when. We don't do.

[PFT Commenter]

No. When.

[Big Cat]

No, we don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

He literally got hit in the head and went straight to his smelling salt.

[Big Cat]

That might have been earlier in the game, too. That might have been a secondary hit.

[PFT Commenter]

Imagine.

[Big Cat]

So you're saying he got more than one concussion?

[PFT Commenter]

Imagine. Just adding insult to injury. Nine's legacy is he gets smelling salts reband.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Or wait, are you saying that maybe he got the concussion from the smelling salt?

[PFT Commenter]

No, no, he got. He. You could pull up the clip because four minutes left, he gets absolutely flattened and then he immediately takes out a smelling salt out of his pouch to, like, wake back up.

[Big Cat]

I could see Nine being the kind of guy that would.

[Memes]

One of those pictures.

[Big Cat]

Gnarly head of smelling salts. Okay. That he got himself a concussion from inhaling.

[Memes]

One of the interceptions was after the hit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

So that. That's minus one.

[Big Cat]

And we don't know if that was the first concussion or not that game that he had.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Memes]

Great point.

[PFT Commenter]

Great point.

[Big Cat]

He could have had like six.

[PFT Commenter]

Maybe.

[Big Cat]

Even more than six. Could have been. He could have been the most concussed nine. I think that it's not. We're not going to be super excited about Max Brosmer. If I had to go out on a limb, he actually might be. We might look at him and. And then everyone needs Nine back.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Steelers, Bills. This is a must win for both teams. Bills are plus 3 and a half over unders 47 and a half half. Must win.

[Big Cat]

Must win. I like the Bills. This is Mike Tomlin special. They're underdogs at home against the Bills, but the offense in Pittsburgh is Arthur Smith. If you're listening to the show, just hit the fast forward button like four times. The Steelers have not completed a pass that traveled over 20 yards in the air in the entire month of November. Yeah, four games. 0 for 11 on those passes, two interceptions.

[PFT Commenter]

Yikes.

[Big Cat]

That's. That's bad.

[PFT Commenter]

That's really bad.

[Big Cat]

That's about as bad as it gets.

[PFT Commenter]

That's really bad.

[Big Cat]

And we thought that the offense would be different this year. This is the same old Steelers.

[PFT Commenter]

This is the same old Steelers. And yeah, if you saw their past chart, they just did not throw anything in the middle of the field.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Which you would think you'd want to against the Bears who have no linebackers. It was, it was ugly. This is what they've been doing. Steelers. But maybe it's a Mike Tomlins spot. I mean, Josh Allen has to play better. I also think the Bills have to just run the ball more. They have to just take the pressure, especially with who knows what's going on with Keon Coleman. Who knows what's going on. Who else is out? Dalton Kincaid is still out. Is that right? I believe so. Or is maybe coming back? Ever since Chris Long told us that they have the weapons because of the two tight ends, it's been. Yeah. Oh, here we go. In games, Dalton Kincaid has played the full game this year. Bills are 6 and 1. They're 1 and 3 when he's missed or exited for an injury. Okay, so will he come back?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, this is. I'd say it's probably must win territory.

[PFT Commenter]

For the Steelers and the Bills. Yeah, I think it's for the Bills as well. Bills are in trouble if they, if they lose this game.

[Big Cat]

So if the Steelers lose to the Bills, I'd say it's very likely that they will not make the playoffs. If they beat the Bills, all they have to do is split with the Ravens and then they have games against the Browns and Miami that they should win. And if they do that, they'll have 10 wins. They should make the playoffs. But it all, it's very, very much dependent on being able to beat the Bills. Yeah, we're going to get a ton of McDermott, Tomlin, William and Mary pictures. Yes, at least one. Oh, yeah, we're Getting at least one.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Okay, let's see, what do we got? Next up? Yeah, there's the. Oh, look, they're best friends.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you know this?

[Big Cat]

They shared a dorm together.

[PFT Commenter]

Holy shit. These guys. Raiders, Chargers, I don't care. I mean, Chargers got 41 and a half. I can't watch the Raiders anymore.

[Big Cat]

Wait, Max.

[PFT Commenter]

I put him in the power ranking tier this week of doing a reparable damn irreparable damage to the sport of. Of football.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

What's that Max doing?

[Big Cat]

Max, was the camera on you?

[Memes]

No.

[Big Cat]

When you did that, you did a Roman salute back there.

[Memes]

No, I didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

It's good to go.

[Big Cat]

No, no, Max did the.

[Memes]

I went like this.

[PFT Commenter]

You did the Elon.

[Memes]

That's not a Roman.

[Big Cat]

No, the first, the first.

[PFT Commenter]

Max.

[Big Cat]

The first time he did it, I went like this. No, you were pointing. I'm not. I'm going to do it with my left hand. It was. It was 45 degrees up.

[Stavros Halkias]

I went like this.

[Memes]

But there's the. There's the motion.

[Big Cat]

What's going on back there? Max?

[Jerry]

Good.

[Stavros Halkias]

Good to go.

[Big Cat]

That's good to go.

[Stavros Halkias]

Yeah.

[Memes]

This game's good to go.

[PFT Commenter]

This game's good to go. I like that. I actually like that a lot. This game is good to go.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't. I don't care to think about the Raiders anymore until like. Yeah. Further notice. Chip Kelly, he's gone. Okay. They've got the. Their quarterbacks coach. Greg Olson is now their offensive coordinator and this is his third stint being the offensive coordinator for the Raiders. And it's like every five years this guy gets a job being the offensive coordinator for the Raiders and then he has to give it up again, go back to being a quarterbacks coach and they bring him back. Good for that. He's the ultimate interim OC for. For. For Vegas. The Chargers gotta do something. You got to look. Look alive. Chargers. I feel like I'm poking them with a stick. Look alive.

[PFT Commenter]

Charge. Look alive. Do something.

[Big Cat]

Act like you're. Act like we're expecting you to act.

[PFT Commenter]

Chargers, do something. Anything. Anything. That would be fun. Like, Gino doesn't even throw picks anymore. Throw the picks.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Harbaugh coming back off a buy. What is, what does Harbaugh even do during a bye week when there's no football during the football season?

[PFT Commenter]

He just watches football. He just gets better self scouts.

[Big Cat]

I think he probably. He could show up to the facility and just pretend that it's game day. Yeah, he probably. He definitely puts on the game day. Attire and the cleats on Sunday day.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

To keep himself in the habit.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He missed football, so he goes to.

[PFT Commenter]

The office every day. For sure.

[Big Cat]

I'm going to expect. I'm gonna expect big things from the Chargers and then I'll be very disappointed if I don't get big things from them.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Last game, Sunday football. Why are you on Sunday night?

[Big Cat]

That's a great question. I begged. I begged and pleaded to not have the Commanders on Sunday night football.

[PFT Commenter]

Commanders are six and a half point underdogs, overrunners 43 and a half. I do think you could probably. Probably sticking this game a little.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. In fact, I think it's probably not a bad bet to bet the Commanders to score first.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Or at least Commanders maybe first half money line. And then it all falls apart the second half because that's kind of the. The M.O. for Broncos games. So you know that stat about Mariota, his last three games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

He's had exactly 213 yards passing three weeks in a row.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I believe that's the first time in the history of the NFL that that's ever happened.

[PFT Commenter]

Can we bet it?

[Big Cat]

Well, let me just add one more little stat on top of that one. The Broncos have given up 2, 342 yards passing over 11 games.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, boy.

[Big Cat]

That is an average of 213 yards per game.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna guess that Mariota the over under is going to be around 200.

[PFT Commenter]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

Like all the signs are telling me. Mariota 213 again. Yeah. Make it happen. Yeah. This is gonna be a bad game. We're gonna lose. Jane Daniel says he wants to come back and play. Jane Daniels should not come back and play. I'm begging you, do not let him come back and play. Terry McLaurin, who knows if he's going to play football. Noah Brown, he never really played football. He played one game, he caught the Hail Mary and then just nothing from him. The defense is, I think, the most expensive in the NFL and they're like the worst in the NFL. Things are bad. Things are, things are. Things are not looking good. But Tankathon, take a thon. Tank a thon. I'm just rooting for all the bad teams this weekend.

[PFT Commenter]

I think the Broncos in this game, like, beat the Commanders by a lot. Let's. Let's start. Broncos start. And I'm not saying I want them to do that again. I'm saying if you want to start impressing me to the level.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I was very impressed with their win against the Chiefs. Yeah. Now it's. Can you not toy around with the bad teams?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You know, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Kick the. Out of the bad teams again.

[Big Cat]

I. I think they will kick the. Out of us, but I think there's a. There's a better than 50, 50 chance that the commanders get out to an early lead.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

And then it's going to be downhill. Why is this game on Sunday Night Football sucks. Why?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I guess while we were looking at the slate.

[PFT Commenter]

We don't have to stream it.

[Big Cat]

There's nothing good on the slate. I guess Bill's Steelers would have been good.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. That's a consequence.

[Memes]

I think Colts, Texans is going to.

[PFT Commenter]

Be a good game. Colts, Texas, I'm ready for that game.

[Memes]

That's my favorite game. That's my favorite game. Favorite game on Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Memes]

This game's good to go, though.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, this game's good.

[Big Cat]

Good to go.

[PFT Commenter]

Good to go. Good to go. I like that. We should start. We'll just have. Whenever we get a questionable game, we'll. We'll take it to the booth and Max would just be like, good to go.

[Memes]

I also. I was like, I don't.

[Big Cat]

This.

[Memes]

That's a commercial from 2005.

[Big Cat]

From what?

[Memes]

That's from.

[PFT Commenter]

So, hey, it's good to go.

[Big Cat]

I would just prefer that. I don't want anybody to watch my team.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone, close your eyes.

[Big Cat]

I just want to be. I. I want to be left alone.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, it's a long week with my crummy team. It's a long weekend. You got Sunday scaries after Thanksgiving. Just go to sleep.

[Big Cat]

Was that memes?

[Jerry]

I like that take. I love that take.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Nobody. I don't want anybody else. Nobody should watch this game.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, it honestly feels perverted that you would want to tune and watch this. This is a personal matter that I have that I'm dealing with. This is. I want to spend more time with my football team. Please respect my privacy. Just do not watch this game for your own good. And also for my own. I don't need other people telling me things. I already know about how bad my team is.

[Stavros Halkias]

I know.

[Big Cat]

I know. There's nothing you could say that could hurt me me about. About my crummy team. I just want to let me watch them and, like, kind of be sad in peace. That'd be a good thing.

[PFT Commenter]

This is the perfect game to skip because it's Sunday after Thanksgiving. You know, whether you're traveling or not, you've had a long week of eating, sitting on the couch, watching endless amounts of football. You get the Sunday scaries. You got to go back to work. Just pass.

[Big Cat]

I do have a question for you about the commander. Good to go though. Should I want to resign Debo this off season?

[PFT Commenter]

I think you got to just. I think the commanders have to focus on getting significantly younger.

[Big Cat]

I would agree with that. However, Debo's look pretty good when he's had the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

It depends on the price. But yeah, I think the youth is all that matters for the commanders at this point. Like, try to get as many draft picks as you can. Try to get as many young guys. You need to build a roster of young guys.

[Big Cat]

Kyle Pitts.

[PFT Commenter]

Kyle Pitts.

[Big Cat]

Maybe Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz. I listen, I love Zach Ertz. He's a great football player. Even better human being. I might have gotten that backwards. It's one or the other. He really. He's turned into. To lock it later on in his career where he just catches the ball.

[PFT Commenter]

He respects.

[Big Cat]

He sits down. I don't blame him at all. It's like, yeah, I don't want to get hit by a linebacker either.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But yeah, he's. Things are. Things are old.

[PFT Commenter]

Things are old.

[Big Cat]

Things are getting old. Old.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, let's do our picks and then we'll do the fantasy minute and then we'll finish with the TD parlay. The standings are. I think I already did the standings earlier in the show. So we still need a punishment.

[Zach]

Boys.

[PFT Commenter]

We got to get a punishment because if we get really close, then people are in last. Are not going to want to do a punishment.

[Memes]

Outdoor boys.

[Big Cat]

What are the outdoor boys film. An outdoor boys video.

[Memes]

That was my. That was my.

[Jerry]

Okay.

[Memes]

I don't know if I brought that up on here on. On air.

[Jerry]

We can bring back the drive.

[PFT Commenter]

Drive to the Super Bowl. We could bring back the drive.

[Zach]

Eggnog week.

[PFT Commenter]

Eggnog week.

[Big Cat]

Go on.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you can only. You can only survive on eggnog for a week. I'd like eggnog.

[Big Cat]

Eggnog.

[PFT Commenter]

That shit sounds good.

[Memes]

That doesn't help.

[PFT Commenter]

My eggnog weakest rocks.

[Jerry]

I'll live in the van for the seven days.

[PFT Commenter]

Like you said, driving the van out would be sick because then we could do interviews out of it.

[Big Cat]

Hank, you disagree?

[Hank]

Can the van get out there?

[PFT Commenter]

I think so, but I do not know. I can't. I can't say. You know, I can't say conclusively. Okay, who's up?

[Jerry]

Do you want to snake it back this way?

[PFT Commenter]

You. Whoever who was Hank had to.

[Big Cat]

First pick first.

[Jerry]

You had last.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Do you Want to. You want to snake it back?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, so then I just go.

[Memes]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Jerry]

And then. Pft. And then Zach.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. And then next week we'll just go one down the line again. That makes sense. My first pick is going to be the. Oh, man, I hate these games. I really don't like these games. I will take. Biz, bill. Steelers over 47 and a half. No idea. The weather. Okay. You're up. Pft.

[Big Cat]

I am going to take. Bucks cardinals under 44 and a half.

[Jerry]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Suspecting Teddy Bridgewater. Zach.

[Zach]

I would like to take the Tampa Buccaneers minus three in that game.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Memes]

I would like to take the New York Football Giants plus seven and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Football memes.

[Jerry]

I would like to take the saints dolphins over 41 a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Kind of like it.

[Hank]

I will take the New England Patriots minus seven and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

And the.

[Hank]

Raiders Chargers under 41 and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, come back memes.

[Jerry]

I'm gonna take the Jaguars minus six and a half. I pick against Titans every week. Titans cover every week. I think this is the week they don't cover.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Chasing. Chasing that one.

[Memes]

Max, has anyone taken Browns Ners under 38?

[PFT Commenter]

Nope.

[Big Cat]

Nope.

[Stavros Halkias]

I will be.

[Memes]

I will be taking that.

[Big Cat]

I got 37 and a half. Right.

[Alex Rodriguez]

Oh, 37 and a half.

[Memes]

Okay.

[Zach]

I would like to take the. Over in the Viking Seahawks game at 41 and a half.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take the Tennessee Titans plus six and a half.

[Jerry]

I mean, they cover every week.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, they do. I'm. I'm gonna take one that I hate because this line makes no sense to me. I feel like this should be a field goal line. I'm gonna take the Colts minus four and a half. I feel like the. That.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a field goal line. Why is it four and a half? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

They know something.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we gotta give away tickets to the Colts. Oh, on Sunday.

[PFT Commenter]

You haven't done that forever.

[Big Cat]

Well, they haven't played at home in a while.

[PFT Commenter]

While.

[Alex Rodriguez]

That can't be.

[Big Cat]

Look at the schedule. Pull up the schedule now, Max.

[Memes]

I'm pulling up the schedule.

[Big Cat]

Pull it up.

[Alex Rodriguez]

I'm.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm pulling up.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Davis Mills coming to town.

[Hank]

Played at home two weeks ago.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, two weeks ago.

[Memes]

That's really long time.

[Big Cat]

We missed that one.

[Jerry]

No, that they were in.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

They were in Germany.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So how long has it been? Wait. Vindication.

[Hank]

A month. It's been a month.

[Big Cat]

It's been a month since they played at home. Them Texans in town. How about the Colts fan with the longest neck?

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Send pictures of yourself if you're a Colts fan or you just want to go to the game. You got a long neck. Tweet that at Pardon my Meme. That's at Pardon my Meme. And memes will select and say what that neck do gets you into a Colts game.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. TD Parlay. Jsn. What do you guys got? Give us a pick, Hank. Pft.

[Hank]

Give me J.K. dobbins.

[Memes]

Editor's note here. J.K. dobbins is out for the year, so we are going to go with Ladd McConkey. Here, lad. McConkey.

[Big Cat]

Give me Bajan.

[PFT Commenter]

Bajan.

[Big Cat]

Wait, that's early. That's early. I'll do another one. You took JK Diamonds. Give me. Give me James Cook.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Yep. Do all in the afternoon. All right, let's wrap up. Great show, everyone. Jerry's fantasy minute, which I gave him two minutes for Thanksgiving. We thought he's a good friend of ours, said, hey, you get two minutes. Did he use two minutes? I don't know. He could. He. He could have used two minutes. He could have not. He's. I said, you have the ability to do two minutes. Oh, look at it looks. Oh, he did two minutes on the dot.

[Big Cat]

She had a wedding.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Why does he look so good?

[Big Cat]

Monday wedding.

[PFT Commenter]

He's a hot guy. This was Monday night, okay?

[Big Cat]

Some sort of gala.

[PFT Commenter]

Go ahead.

[Big Cat]

Start the music.

[PFT Commenter]

Means Start the music. I got two minutes this time. Two minutes.

[Big Cat]

First of all, I want to thank.

[PFT Commenter]

I want to start PFP and Big Cat for giving me two minutes for this special Thanksgiving episode of Fantasy Minute I. Then I want to sit time zones. What the is going on with Arizona? What time zone is that? Games are starting there. Nobody knows what time it's starting, so we're gonna sit time zones. We're gonna. We're gonna start. Hate McCrae. Come on. PFT and Big Cat. Everybody knows who Tate McCray is. Gorgeous young lady. Not to be overshadowed by our queen, Tiffany Gomez, but Tate, show us your tootsies. We're gonna start Don Quixote. Spoilers.

[Zach]

Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

Spoiler alert. Don Quixote gets injured in a duel, and he dies in the end. I know you don't like reading.

[Big Cat]

It makes you sleepy.

[Stavros Halkias]

Sleepy?

[PFT Commenter]

Hank, you read like a half a page and your eyes start to close. So, yeah, Don Quixote dies. Hey, we're gonna start the Hank toy.

[Big Cat]

Which you can get at the barstool sports store.

[PFT Commenter]

It's so great. I heard Tiffany Gomez Got one. But the Hank toy didn't blow it with her.

[Big Cat]

You blew it.

[PFT Commenter]

Bing bong. We're going to sit Pablo Torres. We're gonna sit him.

[Big Cat]

We're gonna sit his ass in court.

[PFT Commenter]

That's what you get. Sorry, the light just went out here. We are going to. We are going to start Lawrence Taylor. Yeah. Old lt. We're gonna start him.

[Big Cat]

He was right there in Jordan's box. We see you, lt. Yeah. And we're gonna sit Zach Spelling.

[PFT Commenter]

Come on, dude. Quarter NATOR coordinator. Just. Just AI it.

[Big Cat]

It's all right there.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, everybody.

[Big Cat]

That's it. I did it. Call 1-800- enjoy Don's box. Have a good thank.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. It's great.

[Big Cat]

Thank you, Jerry.

[PFT Commenter]

I like the extended cut.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he really emptied the clip on that one.

[PFT Commenter]

He spoiled Don Coyote for Hank. Are you going.

[Big Cat]

Are you going to stop reading Hank?

[PFT Commenter]

Nope. What page are you on?

[Hank]

75.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, that's not bad. Just keep chugging along.

[Big Cat]

Jerry is he played the hits.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

This is why we give him a minute.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Okay, boys. Happy Thanksgiving to all.

[Big Cat]

Also for the record, Jerry, I knew exactly who Tate McCray was. It was Big Cat that.

[PFT Commenter]

I did not. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not familiar with her work. Now I am. Now I know. I like it was one of those names. I knew the name, but I didn't know what she looked like or any of her songs. No, I do.

[Big Cat]

I like the. The Chiclet's take on it, which was that she is. She's like poisoning Jack Hughes's mind. It's pretty good. Ahead of the. The Olympics.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

She's getting his brain.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. Good show, boys. Have everyone have a happy Thanksgiving, travel safely, and we will be back on Monday. Numbers three.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Good job. He's so proud of himself. None of us.

[Big Cat]

It's got to the point where if Memes gets the number three, that's. That's like a little mini win.

[PFT Commenter]

None of us guess either.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

2, 32. Come on. 83.

[Zach]

25.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna go with 99.

[Memes]

Poke.

[Big Cat]

68.

[PFT Commenter]

I go 71. 85. 85. All right. See you guys.

[Big Cat]

Love you guys. Happy Thursday Thanksgiving.

[PFT Commenter]

Sam. It.