Tommy Fleetwood, CFB Preview And OSU vs Barstool With Ross Dellenger, Mt Rushmore Of Things Girls Hate About Guys Plus Taylor Swift And KillaTrav Engaged

Summary

Pardon My Take – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Tommy Fleetwood, CFB Preview And OSU vs Barstool With Ross Dellenger, Mt Rushmore Of Things Girls Hate About Guys Plus Taylor Swift And KillaTrav Engaged
Date: August 27, 2025
Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter
Guests: Tommy Fleetwood, Ross Dellenger

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Episode Overview

This lively episode features a stacked lineup: a triumphant interview with golf’s Tommy Fleetwood after his first Tour Championship win, an in-depth college football (CFB) preview with Yahoo Sports’ Ross Dellenger (including the Ohio State/Barstool drama), and the much-anticipated "Mt. Rushmore of Things Girls Hate About Guys." The hosts also break down the Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce engagement news, recap NFL training camp storylines, and roll out their signature blend of humor, irreverence, and deep-cut sports analysis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Roundup & Training Camp Drama

(03:32–16:12)

• Terry McLaurin’s Extension: The hosts celebrate PFT’s beloved Commanders extending McLaurin ("What was the final deal?" "Three years, $96 million." – [04:30]).
• Bengals & Hendrickson, Raiders & QBs: Trey Hendrickson’s raise is dissected, as is the revolving door of back-up QBs for the Raiders.
• Training Camp "Hold-ins": PFT notes NFL trade demands are now more strategic leverage, not indicators of a real split, unlike in the NBA ([08:13]).
• Kenny Pickett’s Move & Tommy DeVito Anxiety: The hosts joke about backup QBs bouncing around, and lament the Giants cutting Tommy DeVito with Mafia-movie flair.
• Future of Holdouts: "Is notes app the next phase?" – PFT ([12:55]), referencing how players air grievances.

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2. Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce: The Engagement

(15:50–26:13)

• “KillaTrav” Goes Mainstream:
  • The hosts marvel at Taylor Swift tagging "KillaTrav" in her engagement post.
  • PFT lampoons, "No father wants their daughter to marry... a guy whose Instagram handle is Kill a Trav" ([16:24]).
• Engagement Caption Critique: Hosts debate and roast the Swift/Kelce announcement copy: "Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married..."
• Future Kelsey Wedding/Bachelor Party Predictions:
  • Jason Kelsey will "drink over 20 beers before the best man speech" ([19:55]).
  • Harrison Butker’s toast predicted to be epic.
  • Jokes abound about Jason being the life of the wedding (glass shatters, shirt comes off, dance floor ignites).
• Taylor’s Music Trajectory:
  • The panel teases that happy relationships make for worse albums: "Her music’s great when she’s upset" ([23:29]).
  • "A divorce album would rock" – Big Cat ([24:03]).
• Name & Prenup Speculation:
  • "What if Travis takes her last name? Travis Swift would be funny." ([25:16])

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3. CFB Preview & Ohio State vs. Barstool Drama (with Ross Dellenger)

(101:05–136:50)

• The OSU/Barstool Saga:
  • Dellenger details how OSU (not Fox) was the first to block Barstool from campus; Fox then banned all appearances to get ahead of negative press.
  • "Ohio State said, no, you cannot be on campus... We had our travel booked" – Big Cat ([104:10]).
  • Dellenger: "I think Ohio State expressed some level of concern about the role of Dave Portnoy on Big Noon Kickoff" ([103:21]).
  • Everyone agrees it’s "great for the rivalry" and solid WWE-style entertainment for college football.
• Conference TV Power:
  • The discussion turns to how conference media partners (e.g., Fox, ESPN) have outsize influence on school decisions, scheduling, and branding.
  • "They have all these TV contracts and rely on these TV networks for the majority of their revenue." – Dellenger ([107:38])
• CFB Season Preview & Picks:
  • Miami–Notre Dame: Dellenger picks ND narrowly; Big Cat notes "some are high on Miami" ([109:51]).
  • Teams/Coaches on the Rise: Clemson, Tulane, Baylor, Penn State are highlighted.
  • Penn State National Championship Pick:
    • Dellenger’s semifinal/final projections see them beating LSU, with Clubnik (Clemson QB) poised for a Heisman run.
    • "I picked Penn State to win it all. This is the year." – Dellenger ([134:22])
  • Big 12 = Conference of Chaos: "Just lean into the parody... you never know!" ([126:22]).
  • Nick Saban/Belichick at UNC: Insightful anecdotes about college football's coaching diaspora ([124:19]).
  • Favorite Facilities: Georgia, Clemson, Nebraska, with a Kirby Smart zinger: "Well, that’s what happens when they won’t let us pay the players" ([132:03]).

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4. Mt. Rushmore: Things Girls Hate About Guys

(44:34–66:56, picks dispersed)

Format: Each team drafts "reasons girls hate guys"; hosts and producers riff and roast.

Top Picks & Notables:

• Leaving the toilet seat up ([47:32])
• Never being able to find anything (remote, fridge items, etc.) ([48:23])
• Snoring ([50:09])
• Sports obsession spills into real life/mood swings ([50:33])
• Not going to the doctor / bad self-health ([51:15])
• Not texting back / forgetting to reply ([53:31])
• Being messy/slobby living habits ([58:48])
• Farting/ripping farts ([58:06])
• Starting every war ([54:48~])
• Doing dumb competitions that get you hurt (fantasy, rec leagues, etc.) ([57:52])
• Following random girls on Instagram ([54:25])

Honorable mentions: Mansplaining, being needy when sick, bad fashion choices, not talking about emotions, road rage, blowing money on parlays, bad grocery shopping, and more.
Memorable Reflection:
"We just proved we can't talk about our emotions..." – Big Cat on missed pick ([59:02])
"Women don't like our hairy balls." – PFT ([59:34])

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5. Tommy Fleetwood Interview: 2025 Tour Championship Winner

(70:53–100:22)

• Emotional First Win:
  • Tommy describes the mental grind: "The support for me was ridiculous... Sunday was very cool" ([71:19]).
  • He focused on key holes, admitting devastation at 15 on Saturday weighed on him ([73:09]).
  • "This time the biggest difference was no one caught up with me. It felt like mine to lose." ([73:34])
• Celebrity Support:
  • "People were saying afterwards, you know, LeBron’s been tweeting, Caitlin Clark, Tyga sent a nice message..." ([72:06])
• Ryder Cup Jokes:
  • Fleetwood acknowledges American fans must now "double-bird" him, and jokes he won’t be offended ([76:43]).
  • The hosts tease, "If Tommy Fleetwood was a real man, he would play left-handed in the Ryder Cup." ([87:41])
• Son’s "Try Me Hardest" Viral Moment:
  • "That was the answer he came out with... very proud. He’s given off a good message" ([78:36])
• Perseverance & Losing Streak:
  • "Everybody can inspire in a different way... mine was a story of perseverance." ([91:35])
  • "Every time I’d been there, it didn’t happen. More and more doubt creeps in."
• Media Demeanor:
  • Fleetwood discusses importance of facing the music after heartbreak, resisting the urge to "sulk," using interviews as motivation ([80:32]).
• Golf "Mini Driver" Deep Dive:
  • "I never really had a three wood that I loved... Mini driver’s unbelievable." ([84:04])
• American Sports:
  • Confesses love for NBA ("Steph Curry") and American sports culture ([95:43]).

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6. Hot Seat, Cool Throne

(29:38–43:44)

• Hot Seat:
  • Burning Man attendees: 50mph winds, traffic, "Orgy Dome" collapse ([29:57])
  • Carlos Alcaraz’s haircut drama at US Open ([33:04])
  • PFT’s Commanders: Most expensive beer in the NFL ($16.49) ([38:03])
• Cool Throne:
  • Rajon Rondo: "Flag football’s No. 1 ranked QB (allegedly)" ([31:43])
  • Baseball staying relevant: MLB schedule drop timing out Taylor/Trav news ([34:23])
  • Keegan Bradley: May captain and play on Ryder Cup team, which would be legendary ("It hasn’t happened since 1963" – [40:57]).

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7. Listener FAQs & PMT Banter

(137:31–147:47)

• Hosts discuss watching old clips, managing double/triple TVs as adults, and possibly rehoming their office turtle (Mr. Pear).
• Classic tangent on famous turtles erupts, complete with Ninja Turtle and Lonesome George references.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce:
  • "No father wants their daughter to marry... a guy whose Instagram handle is Kill a Trav." – PFT ([16:24])
  • "I’m gonna say it... I think Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift are dating." – Big Cat ([17:51])
• On NFL Trade Demands:
  • "The next phase in the holdout request trade is now notes app." – PFT ([12:55])
• CFB Drama:
  • "Ohio State did not allow us to do the show... We had our travel booked." – Big Cat ([104:10])
• Tommy Fleetwood’s Win:
  • "Everybody can inspire in a different way... Mine is a story of perseverance." – Fleetwood ([91:35])
  • "I used [post-loss interviews] as motivation... you could sulk, but just by doing that (talking), you say something good straight away." – Fleetwood ([80:32])
• Mt. Rushmore Wisdom:
  • "We just proved we can't talk about our emotions..." – Big Cat ([59:02])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• NFL Training Camp Drama: 03:32–16:12
• Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce Engagement: 15:50–26:13
• Hot Seat, Cool Throne: 29:38–43:44
• Mt. Rushmore: Things Girls Hate About Guys: 44:34–66:56
• Tommy Fleetwood Interview: 70:53–100:22
• CFB Preview & OSU vs. Barstool w/Ross Dellenger: 101:05–136:50
• Listener FAQs & Banter: 137:31–147:47

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Overall Tone & Style

The signature PMT mix: hyperkinetic, sports-obsessed, self-deprecating humor, and absurdist riffing, with just enough serious analysis and guest expertise to deliver genuine insights. The hosts’ banter is irreverent and rapid-fire, layering bits (Orgy Dome, wedding bachelor party gags) with fan-acknowledged running jokes and timely pop-culture snark. The interviews (especially with Fleetwood) provide refreshingly candid looks into star athletes’ mentalities.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

There’s lots to love:

• A feel-good, insightful interview with a newly-minted golf champion
• PMT’s definitive take on why girls hate guys (with brutal self-awareness)
• Firsthand details on the latest CFB media/realignment drama
• Cackling jokes about Swiftie culture, NFL beer prices, and the "Orgy Dome"
• Real college football picks & predictions from an insider

You’ll walk away clued in, laughing, and a little more ready for football season.

Transcript

[A]

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[D]

It actually just, I think it just black pilled all of us against women.

[A]

Yeah, but it might have been my favorite Mount Rushmore we did this year.

[D]

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. Listen, there's, it's a, it's a fertile ground to pick from. There's a lot of reasons why sometimes women don't like us. That's okay.

[A]

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[D]

Terry McLaren's a Washington commander.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah, I was ready for that one. They made it official today.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Terry McLaurin is a Washington commander. Actually, they made it official on Friday. There's a secret extension that's fact. Got announced on Monday as first report on part of my take. I'm just happy it's done.

[A]

I. I am happy for you. Pft. Terry McLaren signed. What was the final deal?

[D]

We don't really know.

[A]

We.

[D]

I think we have the agent numbers now.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Which is like three years, $96 million. That makes it look like it's like DK's contracts. Yeah. So who knows? He got a $30 million signing bonus. Pretty nice.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

And the contract doesn't kick in until the end of this year, so it's all as well. That ends well. I had a feeling last week that it was going to happen. Just based on the interviews with his teammates.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

Because up until that point, they'd all been like, you know, I. I hope we get it done. I'm. I'm really hoping that Terry and the team can come to a decision because he's an important part of what we do. They're doing all the, like, boring speak. And then later on the week they were talking like, yeah, it's going to happen. He's going to be here. So I had a feeling like it was going to get done. Very happy that Terry's on board. Extremely happy that I don't have to give Max my El Camino. That El Camino belongs to Jaden.

[A]

Yes, P.T. i have a question for you. I'm happy for you. Thank you. If you remember when we Talked about Terry McLaurin, I. I am under the assumption that almost all hold ins will end up with the guy on their current team. Hendrickson is one of them. Micah Parsons, I believe, will be a cowboy. I was saying all along in lockstep with you that Terry McClure would be a Washington commander. There are some people in this room that were not.

[D]

There were definitely some people in this room that were.

[A]

Would you like to call out any of those people at this juncture?

[D]

Hank did not believe.

[A]

Hank, that's you.

[C]

Hank, that's. That's great.

[D]

Why are you looking at Max?

[E]

I mean. Yeah, that's fact. What do you want me to say? Confirmed. I did not believe.

[D]

Would you like to say I was wrong? You were wrong.

[A]

No, you were right. No, no. Say I was wrong. Pft was right. And you can throw in me too, if you want. No. Okay.

[D]

Why not?

[E]

Because you were wrong many times.

[D]

But I was right.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

But. No, that is true.

[D]

No, it's. I was wrong once.

[C]

At least three times. You were like, Terry McLaurin's gonna sign today.

[D]

No, I was wrong.

[C]

And you said it say like that every time.

[D]

Lies, lies.

[A]

Well, put the guns down.

[D]

I was wrong one time. You.

[C]

You always yell me for pointing out. Look who's pointing out.

[D]

You stopped pointing.

[A]

You're.

[D]

You're lying at me, Max.

[C]

You're li. You're. You're pointing at me.

[D]

You said at least three times. I reported on Wednesday that was. It was going to be done. Hand up. I missed it. That was just me missing it.

[C]

What about Friday?

[A]

That's accountability.

[D]

Friday I said it was going to happen, and then Max Delente reported that it happened on Friday.

[C]

It didn't happen on Friday.

[D]

You reported that it happened on Friday.

[C]

I was. I. I will hand up, say I was wrong one time.

[D]

And I wasn't wrong about Friday because then on Monday's show, I said that there was a secret extension that all done on Friday.

[C]

That is fantasy land.

[D]

Making up this retroactively. I was right that the secret extension on Friday, they didn't want to put that out on a Friday. You want to beat your chest and.

[F]

Get a news cycle.

[D]

You want to get a name.

[A]

Information.

[D]

From a Florio, too? No, you put that out on a Friday, then it gets buried under the big weekend of week zero and no one talks about it.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Monday morning, everyone's talking zero in the NFL game, in the NFL world.

[D]

Secret extension signed on Friday.

[A]

Hank loved week zero.

[E]

No.

[A]

Wait, so was Max wrong, too? Because he's. I think he said, oh, no, I.

[C]

Admitted I was Friday got. Got wrong.

[A]

You also said Terry McLaren wasn't going to be a commander, right?

[C]

I don't think I ever said that. I think I was just. I think I. I asked, I asked. Just. Was asking lots of questions.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Max was really.

[C]

I did a lot of what if, what if, what if what you have.

[D]

To do, what this should teach us more than anything about the NFL, is that a trade request doesn't really mean anymore in the NBA. I feel like if you request a trade, you're like, okay, that guy's probably. It's over. Not going to play another second for that team.

[A]

Correct.

[D]

In the NFL, that's just the new holdout.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Is requesting a trade.

[A]

Right.

[D]

So you had, like, Brandon Auk. He did it last year. You've got Hendrickson did it this year. McLaren did it this year. It happens all the time in the NFL. And that's just the next lever that an agent can pull and say, okay, well, they didn't respond to the holdout. Let's request a trade.

[A]

Are you worried at all? You mentioned Brandon Ayuk. Obviously he got injured last year, but before his injury, a little bit of a slow start. Are you worried at all about Terry McLaurin missing all of training camp?

[D]

I like to think that Terry is a consummate pro. He's been nothing but, like, a great player and a great teammate. I like to think that they were just giving him all the assignments, the playbook, all that stuff. He was doing mental reps. He's going to be in shape. The only thing that concerns me is he hasn't really played in full contact practices or in any preseason games. So that is a little concerning to me. I would have preferred if we got this done a couple weeks ago so he could have had, you know, at least a handful of reps. Yeah, but I'm, I'm fine with Terry being. I'M much happier with Terry being on the team and. And missing a few practices. That's okay with me.

[A]

And it's huge, obviously, for Jaden Daniels, because, you know, Terry McLaurin is an awesome wide receiver, Debo Samuel is an awesome wide receiver, and then a. Does fall off a little bit of a cliff.

[D]

Well, kind of. It would suck if Terry wasn't around because we got Debo to compliment Terry.

[A]

Right.

[D]

We got Debo because Terry is the deep threat. He caught a lot of deep balls, a lot of go routes, a lot of corner routes. But having Debo underneath to get the yak yards, because Terry's not a great yak guy, but having Debo underneath, that should open up now that Terry's there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And then shout out the Bengals, Trey Henderson. That also got settled. They needed that.

[D]

Yeah. So explain to me what happened with that, because my understanding is they just gave him a raise this year.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

A big raise. Good for him.

[A]

So they agreed. Agreed. Reach agreement today on a $14 million raise for this year, boosting his 2025 salary to $30 million per source, as Hendrickson still is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent after the season. That feels like a win all around.

[D]

I think that's a. It's a definitely a win for Trey Hendrickson.

[A]

Yeah. But it's also. Well, you could say it's maybe a little luck because he wanted the long term deal, wanted the guaranteed money. The Bengals didn't want to do a long term deal with a guy who's 30 years old. But. So I think there's a win.

[B]

Win.

[A]

You get more money for this year, you still get to be a free agent next year and maybe cash in one more time. And the Bengals, if they weren't fully sold on a guy on the wrong side of 30, you don't have to worry about it in the coming year.

[D]

With a pass rusher. I feel like this offseason, Trey Hendrickson, as long as he's healthy and doesn't have, like a massive drop off, he's going to get paid.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[D]

He's going to pay him a shitload of money. So that's good for him and good for the Bengals for not having to commit a lot of money to a player.

[A]

You'd always just want cash in hand.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If the Bengals had said, hey, here's 100, you know, $90 million guaranteed for the next four years or whatever.

[D]

Right. Like, yeah, they're probably looking at Joe Burrow and just be like, I could have. I could have Bought a yacht.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Instead.

[A]

Yeah. So that was a big. That was a big news for all the holdings. Still waiting on Micah. Kenny Pickett was traded again. Three years. Three times in four years.

[D]

He didn't get devalued, though.

[A]

No.

[D]

They got a fifth rounder for him, right?

[A]

Yeah. So he's now on the Raiders because the Raiders do need a backup quarterback after AOC broke his thumb.

[D]

Something. Yeah, it was something at the end of the arm.

[A]

Something at the end of the arm is not good with aoc.

[D]

Did Mark Davis walk into Tom Brady's office and just say, like, scratch his head and said, like to no one in particular? Man, we really need another quarterback on this roster. Just hoping Tom will perk up.

[A]

Can we. He, like, looked under the couch in Tom Brady's office. Like, anyone seen a quarterback?

[D]

I thought that we had another quarterback around here somewhere.

[A]

Can we find a quarter? Like, can anyone throw this ball that I'm holding right now?

[D]

We're really. We really need one.

[A]

Just. Man, it'd be great if we could just have someone take this ball and throw it to one of our wide receivers. 10 to 20 yards down the field. Tom, could you. Could you do it?

[D]

I think. I think Mark Davis probably didn't stay on the phone too long this week because he's like, I might be getting an important phone call. I can't. I can't tie up the line.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Just in case they try to reach me.

[A]

Yeah. Tom Brady might be calling me.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Ready to go.

[D]

Like, accidentally would text him. Hey. And then after like, five minutes, be like, sorry, but. But text.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Didn't mean to do that.

[A]

Sorry. My apple watches was messing with me.

[D]

Yeah. You really think that Mike is going to play? I. I think gun to my head, yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

But I think that there's. There's a good chance that he doesn't.

[A]

Well, that's. You just talked out of both sides. Your.

[D]

No, I'm saying it's over 50%.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

That he plays.

[A]

So gun to your head. Yes.

[D]

Gun to my head, but really good chance he doesn't. Really good chance I die.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. No, I think he's gonna play. I don't know if he'll play week one because I don't know if he'll be ready to go week one, but I think he will. Deadlines, you know, force the actions here.

[D]

I guess the next phase in the holdout request trade is now notes app. Right. That's like. That's another one that you can go to if you're really Upset.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Dark Mode Notes app.

[A]

Dark Mode Notes app. And Tommy DeVito got cut. Sad. I can't believe they did this to us. I hope they. I hope they, like, properly whacked him.

[D]

Sad. Italian. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that would have been nice.

[D]

Let him put his shoes on.

[A]

Yeah. They just brought him to an empty warehouse in East Rutherford. Yeah.

[D]

I mean, it would be terrible if, like, they made him get in the car, and then they said that he was going to go to the hospital, but then they pulled off the side of the highway into a wooded area, and then Silvio chased him down.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And then Christopher had to live with that guilt for the rest of his life. That would be a bad way to.

[A]

Andy packed his bags and.

[D]

He packed his bags.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But listen. Sad to see Tommy DeVito get cut. We needed James on the roster.

[D]

It's a fact.

[A]

So what are you gonna do?

[D]

That's a fact.

[A]

What are you gonna do? Hey, we tried everything we could do.

[D]

We haven't seen the last of Tommy DeVito.

[A]

Did everything we could do. It's, you know, it's. It's Robert near on the phone. Yeah, there it is. That scene in Goodfellas. We're like, hey, we tried everything we could do.

[D]

There's nothing.

[A]

Nothing we could do.

[D]

Nothing we could do about it.

[A]

We tried. We really tried. What do you mean, Tommy DeVito's dead?

[D]

Will Tommy DeVito play a snap in the NFL this year?

[A]

Yes. No. No. He'll be on a team, though.

[D]

He feels like a Saints quarterback.

[A]

Saints. Spencer Rattler.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Named week one starter. Is that one of the most depressing week one starter like that? Even. Even Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones has a little cachet. We're like, hey, he had a good year. The New Orleans Saints announcing Spencer Rattler. I feel like they don't even want to announce anything. Could they. They probably said, hey, do we really have to. Could we just. Can we just start week one and whoever plays, plays, and we don't have to actually, you know, put a graphic up here that they made where it's like, okay, he's starter.

[D]

It almost felt like a threat.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Hey, just a heads up, I know a lot of you guys are gonna be watching NFL on. On the first. First Sunday. Just so you know, Spencer Rattler might come across your screen at some point.

[A]

Yeah. Hey, listen, NFL, if you're gonna actually make us play week one, we're going to play Spencer Rattler, just so you know. So cancel the season. Otherwise, it's Rattler time.

[D]

They did wave Jake Hayner. Oh, probably very sassy. Wave.

[A]

The zestiest. The zestiest of waves. Just remember, these guys have families.

[D]

They do.

[A]

Yeah. They do.

[D]

Not Aaron Rogers, but.

[A]

Oh, he's got a wife.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Good for him.

[A]

He's got a wife. All right, what other. Any. Any other NFL news? We're getting closer and closer. We're nine days away as we're taping this. Eight days as you're listening to this. I'm excited.

[D]

I'm very excited. Excited.

[A]

I'm excited. Hank, question for you. Yes. Is Keegan Bradley really going to do this? And by this I mean name himself a Ryder Cup?

[E]

Are we not talking about the Travis Kelsey thing?

[A]

Oh, what happened with him?

[E]

He got engaged.

[A]

You're talking about Kill a Trav.

[E]

Killer Trav.

[D]

I think we should.

[A]

The fact that Taylor Swift had to tag Kill A Trav is such a he. He's. He has an aim. Screen name as his Instagram. Like, he definitely regrets that. Oh, yeah. Kill a Trap.

[D]

Every woman, when they're. When they're a girl, they dream of their good name and tagging Kill a Trav. If you're a d. Dad and you were to say okay at. At your daughter's birth, your daughter will one day get engaged to a guy whose Instagram handle is Kill a Trap.

[A]

Kill a trap.

[D]

That's probably the worst case scenario.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Right? And that. This is no disrespect. Travis Kelce.

[A]

No, we like Travis Kelsey.

[E]

You guys are PFD commenter and big cat.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. But Kill a Trav.

[E]

Killer Trap goes hard.

[A]

Does it?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

No father wants their daughter to marry. Not for Travis.

[A]

Engagement photo. Kill a child.

[D]

That's just a fact. That's the last name.

[A]

Kill a Trav might go hard, but not when it's in, like, an English garden. On your knee. Kill a Trav. I don't like my Killer Travs getting engaged. Killer Travel Travis are guys that you can call up when they're 50 and be like, hey, Kill a Trav. You want to go to Vegas? He's like, yeah, you know, I'm in.

[D]

Killer Trav sounds like the Chris Gaines version of Machine Gun Kelly.

[A]

Yeah. So what was the caption? It was lame.

[D]

Oh, I didn't. I didn't like the caption.

[E]

The caption was a gym teacher and English teacher getting.

[D]

Yeah, what was that?

[A]

We could do better than that.

[D]

You guys are not a billionaire. You guys aren't teachers.

[A]

Yeah, you can't.

[D]

You can't put on the teacher esthetic.

[A]

No.

[D]

Teachers make $50,000 a year.

[A]

Your English teacher. Wait, you're scrolling too fast. Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married. Really? How about your billionaire song artist and your millionaire NFL star are getting married?

[D]

I do love love.

[A]

I love love. I'm happy for them.

[D]

I'm happy for everybody who gets engaged.

[A]

And I'm going to say. You ready for this? I think they're officially a couple. I think it's real.

[C]

Quote, card.

[A]

Quote card. I'm gonna say it. I've seen enough. I. I'm gonna say it. I think Travis Kelsey Kill a Trav and Taylor Swift are dating. I have enough evidence now.

[D]

When Big Cat said he wanted to see P. No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait. When he said he wanted to see P and V. Him and pretty little ring finger in very nice diamond.

[A]

Yes, exactly.

[C]

I feel like you guys aren't even happy for them.

[D]

I'm very.

[A]

I love love. Dude. I'm saying I don't love love.

[B]

I'm.

[C]

I'm saying you guys sound like haters.

[D]

No, I'm very happy. I just think you guys just went on.

[C]

Went on a hater spree.

[A]

No, he didn't. We just said it was funny to get engaged to kill a child.

[C]

Hank, did you think they went on a hater spree?

[A]

Yeah. You're out on an island.

[D]

I'm very happy for him.

[C]

I'm happy for him.

[D]

I'm excited to see what the bachelor party looks like. Excited to see all the people that get that cast a lot of judgment on who's in the wedding party.

[A]

Yep. I'm gonna see. I'm excited to see the wet wedding pictures when Jason Kelsey takes off his shirt.

[D]

I'm excited to see Harrison Bucker's toast at the wedding. That's gonna be great.

[A]

Beautiful.

[C]

It's the wedding. The bachelor party will probably be hot. Jason Kelsey's fine to take a shirt temperature wise.

[A]

I was saying at the wedding he's.

[C]

Gonna go to that also probably will be warm. And it's also fine off your shirt if you're warm. Jason Kelsey's allowed to take off his shirt.

[A]

I agree.

[D]

Or if you're see it, he did in Buffalo. That was cool.

[A]

Jason Kelsey has to be like an all time party starter on the dance floor. You need one of those guys to get the. The going when everyone's like that weird moment in a wedding when. All right, everyone please take the dance floor. We're gonna. We're gonna do the, you know, father daughter dance and then everyone's in the. In the mother, mother, son dance and then you stand there and they try to do shout, and you're like, I don't know. Jason Kelsey comes in, glass shatters, parties going. It's fucking awesome.

[C]

Yeah, that sounds sick.

[B]

That sounds like.

[A]

Can you say we're not haters anymore? Because that was. We just.

[C]

No, no, that was good.

[A]

That was good. That was a good little.

[C]

That was a good scenario.

[D]

My predict, I think that. That Jason Kelsey is going to drink over 20 beers on the day of the wedding.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Over 20.

[C]

I think he might drink over 20 before he even does the best man speech.

[D]

I hope so.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I wish we could. There. We're not going to. I would love to see the best man speech.

[A]

Oh, we should.

[D]

Max, you should slam 20 beers and then give the best man.

[A]

Oh, we will. Yeah, we'll have that happen on the show.

[C]

What do you mean?

[A]

We'll have to do the.

[D]

The Jason Kelsey best man speech.

[C]

Oh, as if.

[A]

Yeah, okay, we can do that.

[C]

Okay, I like that. Yeah, I could do that for you.

[A]

You can cosplay as Jason Kelsey for us and drink some beer. No way.

[C]

That does sound like my mo.

[D]

And then give a. Give a speech at a dinner.

[C]

That also sounds like something I would do.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

No, no, no.

[A]

What are. What are we going to do? We get. What are we going to do, Zach? Sydney Sweeney. What are we going to do? I think Sydney Sweeney, Hank, could make.

[D]

Like, a fantastic couple.

[A]

I think you and Sydney Sweeney. That's exactly why you're not really interested in her. She will die hearing. No, she's probably great. It's just like, there's levels to dating.

[D]

And levels to life and then her level and.

[A]

Yeah, you know what I mean? You're way higher. No, dude, this. What?

[E]

Your stock is higher than mine.

[A]

Yeah, you're like a traditionally handsome guy too, so it's, like, great together.

[C]

He's so too nice, Zach.

[A]

Your whole, like, yeah, sex. Who needs it? You know, I don't care. We're gonna just video games. Like that's attractive to women. I think Max can do a great best man speech. What? I was trying to pivot.

[C]

I would do your best man speech with Sydney Sweeney.

[A]

I thought he was doing it as Jason Kelsey. No, no, your best friend speech. When you marry Sydney Sweeney, I don't.

[D]

Think she's in the marriage. Okay, Hank, what about Rihanna?

[B]

Fair.

[E]

She's married with kids. About Cardi B. I don't want to complicate the Patriots. I don't want to. I don't want to get in the way of my Guy.

[A]

Oh, Stefan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. What about.

[E]

Madison? Beer Taken.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know any other.

[D]

You name a woman.

[A]

Celebrities.

[D]

Anybody else know a woman?

[C]

Sabrina Carpenter.

[A]

Oh, Sabrina Carpenter. Yes. Rita Carpenter.

[D]

You love Carpenters. You pick. Jesus. True.

[A]

We go Chapel. Roan.

[E]

Nah.

[D]

Probably Doja.

[B]

Cat.

[E]

Nah.

[B]

Who?

[A]

Lizzo. Lizzo.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, okay. All right, Good. Not a yes. We got a yes. Power couple.

[D]

Bobby Altoff.

[E]

I don't think that would move the needle enough.

[A]

Is she still. Where. Where is she?

[E]

What, is she doing another podcast with Drake? She's going back to the well.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

Hawk to a girl.

[E]

Is she around?

[D]

She's somewhere.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Probably be a lot of fun.

[A]

Yeah. Remember that? That was. That was the biggest. Like, that was the fastest boom to bust.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's good to know that we can still do the 15 minutes for real, you know?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

We have the 15 minutes for a while. Like, it was like someone gets a little famous and they stick around. We did the 15 minutes with Hawk. Tua. And then we got out.

[D]

Yep. It's. It's like a natural cycle now where if you get into that 15 minutes, you end at 15 minutes because you do a coin.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Then it spits you out.

[D]

It's the natural circle of life.

[F]

So.

[D]

Yeah, with Travis and Taylor. Very happy for the two of them. I think that. Call me a hater. I don't know her music's going to be like it now that she's happy.

[A]

Yeah, but no. Okay.

[D]

Her music's great when she's upset.

[A]

How am I going to navigate this next thing? Why are you shaking your head? Don't shake.

[C]

I'm just. I'm just pre disavowing what you're about to say.

[E]

Stop getting held hostage by the Swifties.

[A]

Yeah, you're.

[F]

You're.

[A]

You're PFT's right. No, right now, Max, I'm.

[D]

I'm saying as a fan of. As a fan of her.

[C]

Someone has to be Team Kelsey.

[A]

I want love. I love love. I don't. I want them to be happily married forever. A divorce album would rock. Mm.

[C]

God, that was such a bad thing to say.

[A]

Why? I know. I want them to say, I don't want them to get divorced. I do not want.

[E]

I think Swifties would agree with.

[A]

Yeah, I do not want him to get divorced. I'm saying if it happen, there would be incredible music. Right. Don't want it to happen. You don't.

[C]

You don't like her. Her music.

[A]

Currently love her music, dude.

[C]

Like, you're, like. You could say that if you, like, love her heartbreak music.

[A]

Well, maybe I don't, maybe I don't think her heartbreak music is enough heartbreak. So I, I, I'm sorry, you say.

[C]

That as, as, as a fan.

[A]

Again. Again.

[D]

I'm just saying she's going to put out an album where she's happy, and then that better be a banger of an album because if it's not, then the fans are gonna be like, I don't know if she still fastball.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

I love, I love listening to music when I'm in a good mood. Probably great making music when you're a good mood too.

[D]

I think that, that history has shown that some of the best art comes out of people who are in really dark places.

[C]

T. Swift different maybe.

[D]

Do you think that he's.

[C]

I'm not too familiar with her music as well.

[A]

Oh, what are you doing, Max?

[D]

Is he gonna sign a prenup?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

What about last names for last name?

[D]

Travis Swift.

[C]

What if, what if Travis takes her last name?

[D]

Travis Swift would be funny.

[C]

Killer Travis.

[A]

Yeah. Kill a trav. Swift. Yeah.

[D]

Travis Swift.

[A]

Yeah. I'm happy for them. Love is love. Great. Congratulations to them. To many, many years of happy marriage. Fair.

[C]

Salud.

[A]

Salud. Don't any of what we just talked about.

[C]

Oh there. Or it'll be all of might not be clipped by us, but it'll be clipped. And you and you know. And you know it.

[A]

Who are you right now, Max?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

You're supposed to be one of our guys.

[D]

I've been watching all the breakdowns of the Easter eggs from the, the podcast that you did. Yeah, I'm kind of obsessed with the Easter eggs now. Just you do. Just how, how brain dead some of the people are that are just. They're trying to like, connect dots that are on the other side of the planet correct each other because they're like, oh, I figured this thing out. My own Easter egg. She keeps saying the word. The number 47.

[A]

Hats.

[D]

47 brand hat. Right now our current president.

[A]

Oh.

[D]

Is number 47. Our current president is also known as what?

[A]

The man.

[D]

The commander in and chief. Commander in chief. Super Bowl. Think about it.

[A]

What? Donald Trump is going to officiate their wedding.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Imagine the Internet would blow up root for that. Donald Trump officiates their wedding. Shador Sanders is the ring bearer. Who else? Who else can we throw in there?

[D]

The Rizzler.

[A]

The Rizzler is the best man. This is pretty.

[D]

That checks all the boxes.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Usher Jared from Subway like that. He's going to be out of jail soon. Just kind of crazy. Dj don't talk about that enough.

[D]

Lead singer of the wedding band Mincy.

[E]

Oh, just Lane Maxwell.

[A]

Yeah, just Lane. Okay. Should we do our Hot Seat Cool Throne? Because I think then that's when you want to talk about Ryder Cup Keegan. Sure. Okay. Hot Seat Cool throne brought to you by Game Time. Hey Hank, find me some tickets. College football. You know what? Find me. Find me. Lsu Clemson College football season is back. Which means tailgates, cheering crowds and the excitement of being in the stands before kickoff are all back to ever find yourself at a tailgate and decide to grab tickets last minute. That's where game time comes in. The Game Time app gives the advantage back to fans. It's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps. It's incredibly easy to use. The Game Time guarantee means you can Trust you'll get 100% authentic tickets on time and at the best price. Plus fees are always included. So what you see is what you pay. I was looking at tickets for Clemson.

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[A]

Okay.

[E]

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[A]

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[E]

My hot seat is Burning man attendees. Oh, Burning man music festival in the desert. There's been 50 mile an hour winds in the middle of the desert. Flash flood, storm warnings. There's like a helicopter aerial view. It looked like traffic was infinity miles long.

[A]

Infinity.

[E]

Absolute chaos. I don't know. And then I don't know if you guys saw this.

[A]

The. The.

[E]

The orgy tent.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[E]

I'm trying to get the exact word for it.

[A]

What's the orgy tent?

[E]

It was a. It was a setup at Burning man.

[A]

And there was orgies.

[E]

The wind knocked it down.

[D]

You can't have an orgy in the wind.

[E]

The wind knocked down the orgy tent.

[D]

You can still have the orgy.

[A]

I.

[E]

Guess, but in the desert, in the wind.

[D]

Gotta be able to play the elements.

[A]

Can't you just have the orgy underneath the tent?

[E]

Well, no, there's. There is no tent.

[A]

Yeah, but like, it's just having an orgy underneath the blankets.

[E]

Right, but this would just be out.

[A]

In the wild, but there'd be blankets. The tent, Burning Man. I feel like I never hear anything except for like long traffic.

[E]

Orgy dome. Sorry.

[A]

Now that's totally. Yeah, the orgy dome is a totally different thing. You can't lose the orgy dome.

[D]

Some would say that a dome is a big part of an orgy.

[A]

Toughest place to play. Yeah. Is the orgy dome. Imagine the stadium pulse when you walk into the orgy dome. Is he like a 4 inch?

[D]

Is the orgy tent. Is that just unlv when he. When the quarterback gets injured? Yeah, that's the orgy tent.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, the orgy dome would be very. I would be very worried walking the orgy dome. Yeah.

[E]

There's people out there. No service in the middle of storms. No orgy dome to even get to if you make it there.

[D]

And that's probably a lot of. That's a big draw.

[A]

Definitely.

[D]

Orgy dome.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, you buy. When you buy your Burning man tickets, you buy a day pass the or.

[D]

Yeah. It's like going to Disney World. And Space Mountain's closed. Sorry.

[A]

Okay, good. Hot seat.

[E]

And then my cool throne is Rajon Rondo.

[A]

Oh.

[E]

So this, this source. I mean, I. I have no choice but to take it as just a. A complete fact. Frankie Vision tweeted.

[D]

And.

[E]

And obviously this. This makes even more of a fact. The tweet was top five NBA point guard of all time. Rajan Rondo playing flag football, making it look Easy. He is the number one ranked flag football quarterback in the country right now. And then all the, like, Legion, hoops, all the other basketball aggregators took that tweet from Frankie Vision. No idea what his flag football ranking history is, but ran it as, like, a fact. So there's all the basketball aggregators being like, Rajan Rondo is currently the number one ranked flag football quarterback in the nation right now.

[A]

Oh.

[D]

So I would like to see those rankings. I'm interested in not saying he's wrong, but I want to see the math that goes into it.

[A]

Yeah. I would also like to see those rankings. Yeah.

[E]

Shout out to Rajan Rondo.

[A]

He might be the number one flag football player in the world.

[E]

Future Olympian.

[A]

Future Olympian. Rajan Rondo. Yeah.

[E]

It's just funny. It was seeing. I saw it. You know, I follow the. The basketball aggregators, and they were all reporting it. I'm like, is he really ranked that high? And it was just Frankie Vision.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He's just dropping dimes.

[E]

I like that he was dropping. It looked like he was, like, playing.

[A]

Like, with, like, kids, but was he dropping. Done. Yes.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

All right. Pft. Your hot seat. Cool.

[D]

Toronto. My hot seat is Carlos Alcaraz because the U. S. Open is right now. And Carlos Alcaraz debuted a new haircut before the tournament. Have you seen his hair? Yeah, it's like, completely shaved bald.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He said he blamed his brother. He said my brother misunderstood with the machine. He cut it and the only way to fix it is to shave it off. To be honest, it's not that good. It's not that bad.

[A]

I guess I actually, I can understand this. This has happened to me before.

[D]

Yeah. The brother went no guard by accident or went really short and started. You start it and then you're like, well, my only way out of this is to cut all my hair.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

So I. I actually think it makes him look faster.

[A]

It does. It makes him look like he might have had a mental breakdown. Because I think that's kind of like a sign. Like, you just randomly shave your head out of nowhere.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

But. Oh, good for him. You're sweating, Hank.

[C]

You did that. I mean, you didn't do it by accident, but this is. This was your haircut.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

And you. And you liked it.

[A]

I've.

[E]

Yeah, I've kept my hair short since then.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

He also has, like. I mean, he's a muscular pro tennis player who's good looking. I think it's okay.

[D]

Yeah, he'll be fine. Yeah, he'll be fine.

[A]

Probably could afford a bar when I did it. I just looked way fatter.

[C]

Died. I look bad.

[A]

Oh, it's the worst that. The worst.

[D]

I like the fact that he has his brother cut his hair.

[A]

Yeah. Good for him.

[D]

My cool throne is baseball staying relevant. Okay, so, like, two minutes after the Travis and Taylor news drop, baseball announced its schedule for next year, which I love. Also, John Rothstein tweeted out, I think, like a Drake out of conference game. He has that one loaded. John Rothstein has an obscure basketball scheduling fact ready to drop at any moment just in case something big happens in national news. Always, always ready to go. So, yeah, they. They announced what the schedule was, and everybody was like, how could you put this out right now? Tell you what, if you are. And I'm. I'm not saying that we are, but if you are an anti Taylor Swift person, you should love baseball because you're busy commenting, like, who cares when other people post about it? Baseball is the one sport that does not care whatsoever.

[A]

Yeah. They actually almost intentionally try to find where they can, like, sneak it in. Yeah.

[D]

So baseball might be the sport for you.

[A]

Yeah. Ooh, I'm looking right now. Nats come end of March. That kind of stinks.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And then Philly's coming in April. That kind of stinks. Not really summer weather. Okay. I'm looking at the schedule we got. We'll have to get in front of the schedule, see if we can get some friends to come. Come through, right? Yeah, there's some good. I mean, this is just. It's crazy. Have you guys just crazy.

[C]

I don't think we talked about it. MLB is doing a rivalry week next year.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And some of them. Zero sense.

[D]

Okay, so Pirates and Phillies, I guess Pennsylvania.

[C]

This is all Braves, Red Sox.

[A]

That's the former.

[D]

They used to be the Boston Braves.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. What else? Guardians, Reds, Rockies, and Diamondback. Why are the Padres and Mariners?

[C]

Some of these are Ohio.

[A]

Yeah. But Padres and Mariners. That one's weird, right?

[D]

Yeah. There's a name for the Padre. The Padres versus Mariners. I'll look it up.

[A]

Okay. Because I would think Padres, Dodgers would make more sense just out of recent history.

[D]

We got the Angels at the Dodgers.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

A lot of people are just saying they should call this geography week.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Not rivalry.

[D]

You got the Astros at the Texas Rangers. That's.

[A]

What's the name?

[D]

It's the Eddie Vedder Cup.

[A]

Oh, okay. That makes sense. The competition is named after Pearl Jam.

[D]

Frontman, rock and roll legend Eddie Vedder.

[A]

Who lived in both cities during his.

[D]

Life and personally designed the trophy, which features a guitar. What a power move. The rivalry was formalized in March 2025.

[A]

Wait. Oh, it's very new.

[D]

They're really leaning into this Eddie Venner cup thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like Tigers, Blue Jays, Canada.

[A]

Yeah, close enough.

[C]

But, like, that's. Just because they're close doesn't mean they're right. Like, what does that mean?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. There's, like. There's, like, five or six real rivalries here, and the rest are just like. Yeah, I guess they're close. Like. Yeah. Yankees, Mets, Cubs, White Sox. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. This is weird. Okay. Rivalry week. Good job, mlb. You got it. You got it.

[D]

I guess raised versus Marlins. That might happen in nature sometimes.

[A]

Yeah. Giants A's was a rivalry, but now Sacramento.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So that's kind of weird. Okay, so the MLB schedule's out. All right.

[D]

Rockies and Diamondbacks, I think, because they both joined baseball at the same time.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay. All right. Good job, mlb.

[A]

Good job. All right. My hot seat is. Pft. You're washing commanders.

[D]

Oh, no. What happened?

[A]

They released the price of beer at every NFL stadium, and the Washington Commanders are number one in the NFL. 16.49.

[D]

Gotta pay.

[A]

Terry, that's insane.

[D]

That's where that money's going.

[A]

That's an insane 16 for a beer.

[D]

I saw that graphic. Where does.

[E]

It's a sick stadium experience.

[D]

Where do they pull that from?

[A]

Are you gonna let that just go?

[D]

No, it's a bad stadium. You're not gonna. You're not gonna catch me defending the name. You're not going to catch me defending the stadium experience. You're not going to catch me. Catch me defending beer prices. The beer prices.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I will not defend those.

[A]

Bengals are cheapest. $6.80. It's good for the Bengals.

[D]

So this is from who, the Internet?

[A]

Okay. It works for me. And my cool throne is Keegan Bradley. Can we talk about Keegan Bradley?

[E]

He's on the hot seat. He's on. He's got the hottest seat going.

[A]

Well, no, he personally is the cool throne because he's going to get to play and captain.

[E]

You think he's going to.

[A]

Would be the first time since 1963 when Arnold Palmer did it. Do you think he's going to. It sucks for him because. Wait, has he never played in a Ryder Cup?

[E]

He has played in the Ryder Cup. Okay. Played. I'm a Dinah.

[A]

Okay. So he. So. But he obviously last. Whatever it was two years ago was snubbed. Yep. He's playing good enough to make the team. But he's also now the captain. Pick yourself, dude.

[E]

I, I want him to so bad.

[A]

Do it.

[E]

I hope he does. I hope he doesn't. You know, people are saying the captain's already a lot of responsibility. It's going to be too much of a distraction. And it's like, you know, one of those things where the, the, probably the, the nice thing, the easy way out the is, is to just be the captain. But he wants to play and he's playing well.

[D]

Yeah. I, I actually think it's a good move.

[E]

And it's like when, when, when he's in 20 years, when he's looking back, he's going to wish he played. Probably.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Think about it this way. From a captain's perspective, your job, part of your job is to make your players comfortable. Right. If he picks himself, the entire focus is on him. Nobody else has any pressure. It's all about what he does. Which if he's the kind of guy that can handle that pressure, that's great. And it's also good for everybody else that's on the team. I like it.

[A]

It's. You could be a all time legend. If you win as the playing captain. You're an all time legend.

[E]

All time.

[A]

If you lose the playing captain. I like it. Just go all in. It's just, it's the mo. It's the biggest gamble you could have because if he doesn't pick himself and he's not playing like, oh, well, he tried to pick the best team, what are you going to do? It's like everyone will kind of forget that he was the captain. This is push. This is your legacy, Keegan. Your legacy's. You can make your legacy. It might be better than winning a major.

[E]

Yes. If he wins the playing captain.

[A]

Playing captain might be better than winning a major.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

That's a hot take. But I think I could see that being the truth.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Because it hasn't happened since 1963. All right, Zach finishes off my hot seat. Two quick hot seats.

[D]

That's okay.

[A]

Today my hot seat is.

[D]

First one is men in committed relationships. Because I feel like if they're in.

[A]

That window of proposals and there's Swifty fans across the nation, there might be a lot of strong arming proposals coming up. Yeah. Or like, yeah. Proposing right after. This is Taylor Swift is kind of taking everyone's shot.

[D]

Every woman's going to want to go out and find a podcast host of Mary. That's what we're about to see. And another quick one is Nate shots.

[A]

Doing A hole in one challenge today. I don't think he's going to get it. I've got him in the hot seat.

[D]

Because I don't think they're going to.

[A]

Hit the hole in one. That's your guy.

[D]

Shout out, Nadesha.

[A]

They've got like 45 minutes left to hit it.

[D]

Oh, I want him to hit it.

[A]

Timed. Yeah. Eight hours. Where they at? They haven't hit it yet and I believe it's like they got like 40 to 45 minutes left.

[D]

Do we know what course they're on?

[A]

I do not know the specific course. It's in California. Okay.

[D]

He can do it.

[A]

He can do it. I think they can hit it. Just the time is taken away. Yeah. The seats get how time works. So many ticks. Yeah, ticks right in your face. Okay. And quick.

[B]

Cool.

[D]

Cool.

[A]

Throne is Teddy Bridgewater.

[D]

Kyle Trasp being released has bumped Teddy.

[A]

Bridgewater to QB2 for the Buccaneers. Nice. That's not a bad QB2. I agree. Yeah. Teddy Bridgewater knows what he's doing.

[D]

Love Teddy.

[A]

That Kyle Trask. I think Stephen Shea at one point said Kyle Trask was the future.

[D]

Well, didn't they ask Kyle Trask for input on who the next offensive coordinator was going to be for. For the Bucks?

[A]

Yes, that's right.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Was he reporting from Stephen.

[D]

From Stephen Che that Brady after he retired? Yeah, like. Well, we're going to consult with Kyle Trask on right. To bring in next.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Didn't really work out. All right, good. Hot seat. Cool.

[D]

Would you rather have your daughter marry a Travis or a Kyle?

[A]

That's a right. Travis.

[D]

Really? I think. I think Travis is probably last. No disrespect to Travis Kelsey.

[A]

I think Travis Kyle's are Kyles are squirrely bunch.

[C]

There's multiple cool Travis's.

[A]

There's a lot of cool Kyle's.

[D]

Who are some other cool Travis's.

[C]

Travis Pastrana.

[D]

Oh yeah.

[E]

Travis.

[C]

Travis Hunter.

[D]

Travis.

[C]

Travis Barker.

[D]

But also like Travis Pastrana. Travis Barker. Like kind of extreme dudes.

[A]

Yeah, but there's some cool Kyles. Bauer, Hendrix, Slaughter.

[D]

Oh, good point, Chris.

[A]

Kyle Lowry.

[C]

Travis's are significantly cooler than Kyle.

[A]

Yeah, I think so. You're just such. You're just simping hard.

[B]

I mean we.

[D]

We just bro.

[A]

Hey, they're not going to fuck you. Okay. Travis and Taylor are spoken for.

[D]

I just.

[C]

I just like the Kelsey's.

[D]

You should rename the booth the orgy tent.

[A]

Yeah. Thanks you guys. All right, let's get to our Mount Rushmore. Hank, can you grab me right There a Mountain Dew. Nothing says summer like camp baseball, Mountain Dew. And nothing goes better with going to barstool camp then and hang out with your friends than the refreshing, citrusy kick a Mountain Dew. That sounded delicious. We were at barstool camp last week. It was so much fun. Shout out Mountain Dew. It was, I mean, the best time ever. It was the best time ever. I wish we could go back. It was swimming in the lake, the blob, softball, all of it. And it all goes with a refreshing, citrusy kick of Mountain Dew. So go get Mountain Dew today. We love Mountain Dew. Thank you to Mountain Dew, our wonderful sponsor, the new cans OG Cans. Nostalgia in a can. The mountain is calling experience. A refreshing citrus kick Mountain Dew. Grab one today. Okay, Mount Rushmore time. We are doing the Mount Rushmore of things girls don't like about guys. The updated standings are. Myself and Zach. I think we've officially won, so we have 51 points. Maxim memes are at 44 PFT and Hanker at 43. So a duel is very much still on the table.

[D]

It very much is very much on the table.

[C]

Very much.

[D]

Max came in before we just started recording this, and he shook my hand and said, good luck. And you don't mean that.

[C]

I.

[D]

You don't mean good luck.

[C]

I didn't know that we were anti respect around here.

[D]

We. We do not mean good luck.

[E]

I don't know that we were not anti lying.

[D]

Yeah, we're, we're truth.

[A]

We're good.

[C]

L is like what you do before you go in, before you go into competition with someone.

[D]

No, but you don't mean it. That's a fake sportsmanship.

[A]

All right.

[C]

I, I thought I was being respectful.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry for trying to show you respect.

[D]

So you're not sorry.

[C]

I'm sorry for trying to show you respect.

[D]

No, you're not.

[C]

Yes, I am.

[A]

This is an apology.

[C]

I, I, I genuinely apologize for trying to show you respect.

[D]

It's a fake sorry. And if I were to accept it, that would be a fake acceptance.

[C]

I don't know what you, what else you want me to say. I just hand up hand.

[E]

Well, you can accept it. You just don't say it back.

[A]

Yeah, don't say back.

[D]

Okay, I accept. I accept the fact that you're. You're sorry.

[C]

Thank you for accepting my.

[D]

For lying about wishing me.

[A]

Good.

[C]

Thank you for accepting my apology.

[A]

Okay, that's. That felt good.

[D]

You're not welcome.

[A]

The duel is, Is imminent. All right, so who's picking first here.

[C]

We're picking first.

[A]

All right. And then Zach and I. And then pft and Hank. Let's have some fun, boys. This one. This is a good topic.

[C]

Yeah, there's a good one.

[A]

Mount Rushmore. Things girls hate about guys.

[C]

This is a good one.

[A]

It's a strong topic.

[D]

Not a lot to work with here.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah, I have some honorable mentions. I, I. Yeah, we're gonna get.

[C]

The honorable mentions are just gonna get personal.

[A]

Well, so I, I, I texted my wife because Zach and I have won, so it's like I could seek outside help. And Zach was there when I was getting the barrage of texts back, and I was just getting obliterated this morning. Yeah.

[D]

Hand up. I asked, and they all seemed very much directed at me.

[A]

Yeah, listen, I'll do. I'll do an honorable mention right now to just get us going. One of the honorable mentions that I had on the list was not going to physical therapy for their partially torn cap and saying, they'll be fine.

[C]

That's pretty.

[A]

That one feels very direct.

[C]

That's a good one. That's a good one.

[A]

Very, very specific. I was like, shit, I haven't gone to physical therapy yet. And I. I do complain about it when I. When I. When it hurts. Okay, you guys are up. Go for it.

[C]

We're up.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Wording. Wording is good. We're gonna go with the classic forgetting to leave the toilet seat down.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Yeah. After classic. After we put our tool, our whole list together. We had that on there as the first pick, and it looks so benign compared to everything else.

[D]

Yeah, I never really understood that one. How much harder is it to just put the seat down than it is to lift the seat up?

[C]

I agreed, but that. That doesn't mean that it's not a fight.

[D]

I know. It's just the same thing. It's just.

[A]

Listen, listen.

[D]

You know what?

[C]

Some of these things that we're gonna say, we're. We're not gonna necessarily agree. Agree with, but that's not the Rushmore.

[D]

We're not sorry for it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Listen, why don't. Why don't you just. I'm sick of women not leaving the seat up for me.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[D]

Right?

[B]

Let's flip it.

[A]

Flip the narrative. Zach, you want to go with number two, off the. Off the rip. Cause, I mean, that one is. I think we all have this complaint. I think she's a great pick. All right. Terrible. Looking for stuff. I get it all the time. Whether it be in the fridge, whether you lose Something just like, open your fucking eyes. Yep.

[C]

I get that often.

[A]

I will stand in front of the fridge and just be like, where is the ketchup? And you, like, open your fucking eyes right in front of you.

[D]

When they walk over and they're like, it's right here. And they laugh at you.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And they find it in half a second.

[A]

Yeah. Hey, do you know where my wallet is? I don't know. You never leave it in the same place any single day. Yeah, I have like 17 places I leave my wallet and keys, and it varies every day.

[C]

My girlfriend just started buying me airtags because I. Because I lose everything.

[A]

Girls are really good at putting stuff back at the exact same spot every single time.

[C]

Did I ever tell you when I broke my. When I broke my foot, I thought I lost my wallet and it was directly underneath of my nights, like as easy. Like, the first spot that you should look is where it was, and I found it like two months later.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I love that your girlfriend has you microchipped.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

The remote is a big one for me too. I lose the remote all the time, and it's always on my side of the bed. Like, it's always like, you, you had it last and then you lost it, and then I'm like, where is it? You must have taken it. Okay. Pft. And Hank. Hank, not being able to dunk your ball.

[D]

Oh, I got the ball.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay. Which one you want to go with?

[E]

I, I, I, I like, I like.

[C]

You here not being able, I think, be free.

[D]

How about, how about that one?

[A]

That would be a great one. That's a great pick.

[E]

I'm not seeing that. I trust you.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

All right, first pick. We're gonna just, we're gonna throw a fastball, right?

[A]

Oh, boy.

[D]

Snoring okay.

[A]

Yep.

[E]

That's good pick.

[D]

Loud snores that's a good pick.

[A]

Good pick. Yeah, I get the combo. Snoring and also moving too much in my sleep.

[D]

Snoring. Farting in your sleep. Jiggly leg.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

I think the one at the top of the. The list is. It's a second round steal.

[D]

At the very top of the list.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Our sports obsessions.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Whether it be your fantasy team, whether it be your football team, your college team, Sometimes they just don't understand why we dedicate every free second of our lives to something that is so utterly inconsequential to them.

[A]

We had it phrased a little different, but we had that. It's basically the. The sports bleeding into real life. Like, your team losing and having it affect your actual emotions in life and.

[E]

Explaining like, you know, our job is sports adjacent. And it's like, oh, the off season, it's like, well, our job is sports. There's more sports on. Like, well, no, I'm like, oh, it's like, you know, it's quieter during the. After football season, it's like, well, there's still.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

NHL playoffs, NBA playoffs. It's like, there's always sports.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Zach, we're up. I actually added one Zach, that I think is a good one that the girls do not like about guys. I'll just rip it. Not going to the doctor. Just simply thinking that you can solve everything by WebMD. There's a reason why women live significantly longer than men, and it's pretty much all traced back to not going to the doctor.

[D]

Yeah. When you go on. When you have something, you're not sure what it is, you log on to WebMD. And then, guys, we look it up until we reach a point on the Internet where it says, you might have cancer. And then we just close WebMD. And then we just get upset because we think maybe there's a chance deep down that we might have cancer.

[A]

Right.

[D]

And that is our medical treatment.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, I remember there's.

[A]

A couple years ago, my wife. I was. I asked her, like, something like, oh, what's the plan this afternoon? Like, should I pick up up the kids? And she's like, oh, I have a. A doctor's appointment. I was like, oh, my God, Is everything all right? She's like, yeah, we go to the doctor once a year. I was like, what?

[D]

I'm getting a checkup.

[A]

Really? That's. I did that last decade. I'm good.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

The doctor for us is. It's not even the Olympics, because I wouldn't say I go every four years, but it's. It's. It's. I finally got a physical last year for the first time in, like, 15 years, so that felt good.

[D]

I just had an idea.

[C]

There is, like, a sense of, like, accomplishment, though, when you come back and you're. And you feel like you deserve, like, a gold star. And it's like, I got a physical today that I'm. I'm a good boy.

[D]

That lasts until you get the results of your test back. And then you're like, oh, fuck. What if. What if they made a doctor for men, like a bar.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And they got TVs.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Be good sport clips. Just.

[A]

But for doctors, you don't even Know, you're at the doctor. You just go to the bar and it's a doctor bartender, and they ask you some questions and you just answer it.

[D]

Well, they have to get you drunk before they ask you all the questions. Questions that you answer them honestly.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

How many drinks do you have a week?

[A]

I remember when I went to.

[E]

How many drinks did you just have? Yeah, one.

[A]

One. I remember I went to the my physical like a year ago, and I don't want to say that my wife was mad that I was. Had a clean bill of health, but she thought it was a little bit of that. I was like, they're like, yeah, nothing's wrong with you. Like, no cholesterol problem. They're like. She's like, this is kind of you. You don't take care of yourself at all, and you're fine. Okay, you guys are up, up.

[D]

Our next pick is not texting back or forgetting to text back.

[A]

Y.

[E]

That's a great one.

[D]

Good pick. Memes. I was so I was going to text my lady friend. Be I the last text I sent, I, I, I forgot the answer. Do you send her memes?

[A]

No, no, no memes. Yeah, no, that's a good answer. That's a good pick.

[E]

Some girls, they, they not. Not all of them, but there's like, texting is like. Like a hobby of theirs where, like, guys. It's like a means to an end.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, they love to text. They love to text their friends. Conversations, like, you know, back and forth all day where it's like, guys just want question, answer. And then sometimes, yeah, I'm a big mental. Mental responder, not physical responder. And so when they're like, why haven't you text me back? I'm like, I did in my head.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Didn't type it out and say, yeah, yeah. Eight hours ago.

[A]

Big time. Big time.

[C]

And this is just another generic one. Not necessarily personal to myself. Following random girls on Instagram.

[A]

Oh, that's part of the job.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

We gotta do it. We gotta do it. Guys gotta know what's going on. Okay. Zach, what should we do here? What do you think? About seven? Yeah, let's rip it. All right.

[D]

We would like to take starting wars.

[A]

Starting every war. Every war.

[D]

Everywhere that's ever happened. The hands of a man starting.

[A]

It's guilty as charged. Guys started every war. No, that's over a girl. That's a guy starting.

[D]

She started it.

[A]

She just wasn't around.

[C]

That wouldn't have happened.

[A]

Are you thinking. So you're saying Cleopatra can't Even exist.

[E]

Yeah, if she didn't exist, the war wouldn't happen.

[D]

What about Helen of Troy?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That could launch a thousand ships.

[A]

We started the majority, if not all, of the wars.

[D]

We still don't know who wrote that Zimmerman telegram.

[A]

True, true. Our pick is starting every war ever.

[E]

That's a good pick.

[A]

Yeah. Hand up. We like. Guys like to fight. What are you gonna do? Guys like to have border disputes.

[D]

Guys going to battle.

[A]

Yeah. Guys going to battle. Just doing things.

[D]

Quests.

[A]

Quest. Quest with your boys. All right, you guys have your last two. All right.

[D]

Any thoughts, Hank?

[A]

I.

[E]

The one at the bottom made me laugh pretty hard.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

And then whatever else you think, okay.

[D]

I'm gonna go with losing presidential elections to us.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Women hate that, especially if they've been promised the office for the last 10 years.

[A]

Oh, and two. Yeah.

[D]

And, like, maybe their husband was present and they're like, it's finally my turn. And then they work their entire life, and then some guy that does not have any background in being president comes in and then beats them. It's very embarrassing. They hate that shit.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I. Now I do think two. Two is a good choice, too.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

When we get too drunk.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Mostly drunk. Most fight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. But you're also fun when you're drunk. Well, a good time.

[D]

Your bros think that. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Your bros.

[A]

They do time.

[D]

Women hate it when you get too drunk.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Let alone get too drunk when they're not with the bros. Yeah. You come home too drunk.

[A]

How?

[B]

Why?

[A]

Zach, you want to rip? What do you think? 15 maybe, or 11? I think 15. I like 15. Yeah. Yeah. All right, this one might be a little personal, but doing stupid competitions that get them injured, that may. That may be, but it's also kind of. Because, like, I think a lot of guys are in this situation where maybe, like, stupid competitions also are, like intramural sports when you're 35. Like, why are you still doing this? Why are you getting injured playing basketball or softball? Like, this is so stupid. Girls don't like it.

[D]

Like, this should not be a part of your life.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You're electing to do this. You're electing to make my life more inconvenient.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

As you can't drive, you shouldn't be.

[A]

You shouldn't be out for six to eight months.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you wanted to. Wanted to relive the glory days. My brother just recently blew out his hamstring playing, like, pickup soccer. Yeah.

[D]

He's like, I don't know how I'm.

[A]

Going to go to work this week. Yeah. It's like, this is really stupid. Yeah. I probably shouldn't be doing that. Yeah.

[D]

I got a friend that just tours Achilles playing pickup basketball. He's got three kids.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And now his wife is like, what did you do to me for the next year?

[A]

Yeah. This. Very selfish. Very selfish.

[C]

This has been a. This has been a nice camaraderie Mount Rushmore we've had here. This has been good, London.

[A]

All right, last pick.

[C]

There's a lot. There's a lot of good picks out on the board. We're just gonna go with, you know, another classic, ripping farts. Ripping too many farts is always going to be an issue.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, no, it is because we just let it go to fart shitting with the door open.

[E]

What do you think generally, like, the.

[C]

There's a. There's like a one. One pick that's still on the board right now.

[E]

Like, how long do you think guys usually wait to start ripping farts in a relationship publicly?

[A]

A date.

[C]

Yeah, it took it. It didn't take too long for myself, to be honest.

[A]

Yeah. What's the one. One that's get that got left?

[C]

Guys or slobs?

[A]

Slobs.

[D]

Yeah. Just overall messiness.

[A]

Yeah. I was gonna say there's one. One that we actually. We proved to be true by doing this Mount Rushmore and never bringing it up. Up. Just guys not being able to talk about their emotions.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which. Which we just proved we can't do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I know that girls do hate that and rightfully so.

[C]

Mansplaining was another one.

[D]

Big one. Have you ever been in a car that's going 90 miles an hour?

[A]

That's how fast.

[D]

That's how fast I can throw a ball.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

We were.

[C]

We were debating between mansplaining farts and being messy for our last pick, but we. I. I just wanted to. I just wanted to talk about ripping farts.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

We had just our. Our hairy balls.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Women don't like. Our balls are just gross.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

God bless women for dealing with their bodies because it. The male form is. I don't even think women find it attractive.

[A]

No.

[D]

That part of the body. Unless they like a furball.

[A]

Needy when sick. Yeah.

[C]

I think that's everyone.

[A]

I'm a. When I'm sick. Yeah.

[C]

I think everyone's needy when sick.

[E]

Pft.

[A]

The.

[E]

The one. The last one.

[D]

The last one we said. When we say medical condition. When we say a medical condition that we have is worse than childbirth.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Yep. That's a Good one.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

The kidney stone thing.

[A]

Yep. Going to Hooters.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That was Zach's pick. Road rage. Yeah.

[D]

They don't get that road.

[A]

You gotta defend your. Your lane.

[C]

I have a personal one.

[A]

I don't understand, bro. We gotta defend this. We. You gotta defend your house.

[D]

Women hate our friends.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

A lot of times.

[A]

Yep. Our idiot friends.

[D]

Why are you hanging out with that guy?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Getting into some niche subject and thinking they're experts.

[C]

That's mansplaining. Mansplaining.

[D]

Yeah, Just our hobbies. Thinking.

[A]

Think this is kind of related to our last pick of the doing stupid competitions. But. But just thinking they're, like, so close to being professional athletes. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Our.

[E]

Our parlays.

[C]

Yeah, Parlays is good.

[A]

Good one.

[C]

Personal one for me. Big I. Pissing on the side of the road.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

If I have to piss, I'm gonna.

[E]

Jealousy.

[A]

Yeah, I think it is.

[C]

I think it is jealousy, but it's like the biggest. It's the biggest fight for me every time. Cuz I always have to piss and I'm like, I can just go right here.

[A]

Year.

[C]

It's gonna be fine.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

How short the lines are for our bathrooms.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

In line. In line with pissing.

[A]

Yep.

[E]

Our fashion choices.

[D]

I've never had a complaint.

[A]

Yeah. My wife said bad pick. My wife said finding one outfit they like and then wearing the same thing over and over. Also watching 100 documentaries on the same topic. Guilty.

[D]

Yeah, definitely. How. How fast it takes us to get ready.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, I'm gonna put on a shirt and then shorts. And then you still have to be in the bathroom doing makeup.

[C]

Yeah, I think that's more of the opposite.

[A]

Well, no, it's. They're jealous of, like, the fact that we can get ready. And I get ready in four.

[E]

We're leaving at 10:30. I'm gonna get up at 10.

[B]

10.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Like what?

[A]

I can shower and get changed in, I would say four and a half minutes. Yeah. Yeah. And it's. It's. Yeah, that's a. That's a problem. All right, do you guys want my very specific ones that I was given? So I already said the. Not going to physical therapy for their partially torn calf and saying they'll be fine. These are all for my wife arguing over the correct doneness of a steak.

[D]

Yep. They do hate that. They don't care.

[A]

Not hanging up wet towels.

[E]

That could be pf. That could have been pft Submitted.

[A]

Yeah. Not. Not. Not hanging up wet towels. Not appreciating Taylor Swift.

[C]

Not Appreciation again.

[A]

These are.

[F]

That's a good one.

[C]

That's a really good one.

[A]

She just roasted me for hating Taylor.

[C]

SW shift is very funny.

[A]

Yeah. Thinking they should own and operate an assault rifle. That's a conversation that's been going on in my house for a little bit now. It's not going well.

[D]

What is.

[E]

Tasers are here, by the way.

[A]

Yeah, we got.

[E]

We all got tasers.

[A]

It just keeps going. You have three little children. You were not getting a gun in the house. I'm like, but we gotta protect this.

[C]

This is a great vibes. Mount Rushmore. I thought this was the least contentious mountain Rushmore we've ever had.

[A]

And then the last one was pretending they don't hear their children in the middle of the night.

[D]

Yeah, I do.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I do that with the dog. Like, the dog wakes up early and someone's got to go take the dog out. I. I didn't hear.

[D]

They hate our general sweatiness.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

They don't get it.

[A]

Yeah. Caring more about dogs and people.

[D]

Yeah. Thong flip flops.

[A]

Ooh, that's a good one.

[D]

Oh, when dudes wear them.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Using the good shampoo when we ask them for feet picks. Women hate that for some reason.

[C]

What was the call her daddy thing that Tommy smokes about what he wore? Khakis.

[A]

Khakis.

[D]

Khakis.

[A]

I think women don't love it. And this is obviously for consensual relationships. I don't think women love it when you honk their boobs, but I do. I just. That's more of a vibe pick. I think that's. It wasn't sent to me. That just.

[C]

Oh, we missed an easy one too. Coming super fast.

[A]

They kind of like that, though.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

Shows how masculine.

[E]

So hot.

[A]

Not knowing how to buy groceries. That was a specific one for. For me because I do struggle with that.

[D]

Oh, bringing home fruit or vegetables that are clearly not ripe.

[A]

Yeah. Or just not reading any labels and just buying the wrong thing. Yeah.

[D]

This avocado won't be ripe for another 14 days.

[A]

Oh, did I accidentally buy soy milk? My bad. I didn't read it. I just grabbed milk. Any others?

[D]

When we eat all the ice cream and then put it back in the freezer and there's just a tiny bit of ice cream left that's not really a serving size. Why did you save this?

[C]

Everything.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Pissing in the sink.

[D]

Pissing the sink is a good one.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Leaving your shoes everywhere. Oh, I leave my shoes.

[C]

I get smoked for that because I.

[A]

Have, like, Piles of shoes in, like, multiple spots in my house.

[E]

Having too many hats.

[A]

Way too many hats. Oh, man, that's a good one. I have so many hats.

[D]

Finishing a roll of toilet paper and not replacing it.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Why would you. Yeah.

[C]

Coming back from a trip and just leaving all of your bags right in front of the door.

[A]

Yep. Also coming back from a trip. Coming back from, like, a trip with your boys and having no update on any of their lives. I get that a lot because I just don't, like, you know, when you're on a trip with your boys, you're not going to be like, at. Girls go on a trip, and they. And they talk about their feelings and how their life's going and how work's going. Guys go on a trip. I could spend four days with my friends and never ask a question about their children or work.

[D]

One time I was on a trip when I was. I want to say, 27, 28. I get back from the trip, and my girl was like, has so and so had their baby yet? And I said, I don't know.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And that was. That was a bad conversation.

[C]

That also just means that you. You only ask those questions to people you don't really like.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Like, if it's like, I don't know what to say here, let me just fill in. Fill in this generic question.

[A]

I've been doing a little hack that people can take at the end of trips. Like, the last day, I literally sit down with all my friends. I'm like, give me two facts. I'm just like, give me two things that I can just say. Like, when she said, hey, how's this guy doing? Like, yeah, this, this, and this. And it looks great. Just give me those quick facts. It's good icebreaker, too. You spend, like, four days with your boys, and then you finally have a conversation for five minutes before you go to the airport. Yeah. Just really, really loosen it up.

[D]

We also had our golf obsession on here that was mostly a Hank one.

[A]

That's a big one. I think girls don't like that.

[D]

Yeah, I think they actually kind of like it.

[A]

No. Gone for five. You're gone. You're gone for five hours.

[D]

They have. Many have free time all to themselves.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know about that.

[C]

I think it's. I think it's tougher once they. The kids. The kids come into.

[A]

Yeah. Complicated. For sure. For sure.

[D]

Let men golf.

[A]

Let men.

[E]

Let men golf.

[A]

Print the shirts.

[B]

This is.

[C]

This was great.

[A]

Great. Mount Rush.

[C]

This was fun, boys.

[A]

All right, so we'll see. So what is the. If you guys get first and they in pft and Hank get last and it's over.

[D]

Yep, yep, yep.

[A]

So we. I really want to do.

[D]

I don't think that's going to happen but good luck.

[A]

Deserve a duel. We do.

[E]

A duel would be fun.

[A]

Dual will be fun. Dual will be very.

[C]

I hope that there. I hope actually what I'll. I'll say my thoughts on whether I want a duel next show.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

Well, what does that mean?

[A]

We can't wait.

[C]

Because if you guys. Because if you guys get. But because if you guys get first and we get third, then I will want a duel if we get first.

[A]

Wait, we can't have you guys tied after this one because then it'll be over. Yeah.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[D]

So if we finish.

[A]

Unless you guys need there to be a one point or two point gap between you. Yeah. For there to be a potential for a duel on Friday or. Not that I'm trying to telegraph how.

[C]

The voting the duel next week it's gonna be so it's impossible. It's impossible to rig.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Wait, how could it be over if it's.

[A]

If you guys are tied Friday's show you can't get the same amount of points.

[D]

True.

[A]

So it'd be over.

[C]

Just be first and you come in third.

[F]

Then it's so it's.

[D]

Yeah, it's over.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So it needs to be. You guys are one point. Although points you guys separated.

[C]

That would make a fun last Mount Rushmore if there was nothing on. Nothing on the line except for now.

[A]

We want to do. You guys can't come in last. Yeah, no, they can. No, they can come in last. If you guys come in second, you guys will be up by two points and then you can come in last. Yeah.

[D]

No, it would just mean like the only thing we have to avoid is last place for me and Hank, first place for Max.

[A]

That's correct.

[B]

Right?

[D]

Yeah, that is. That's a doomsday scenario.

[A]

Yeah. That means.

[C]

Well, for the listeners the doom. Doomsday scenarios. You guys come in first, we come in second because then there's.

[A]

Then it's. Then you guys are tied.

[C]

Then there's no duel.

[A]

Yeah. And there's no duel. So it can't be Max and Memes in first and you guys in last or you guys like you guys being one ahead of them. Yeah. In this one. Yeah.

[C]

Which this can't. This can't be rigged. So it like.

[A]

No, we're just talking.

[C]

We're just talking the perfect voting Would.

[A]

Be you guys being one or two away. Yeah. Each other going into Friday.

[D]

Yeah. Like if. If me and Hank came in first and then Max and Memes came in last.

[A]

That would be great.

[D]

That would be a great.

[A]

That would be great. Awesome. All right.

[C]

I don't. I don't like that result. You know what else would be a really good result? If we won't.

[D]

No, disagree.

[A]

That would be good.

[C]

Or if we come in first and they come in second.

[A]

That would be fine. Or if you come in second and they come in third.

[F]

Yep.

[C]

Also, it'd be great.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[E]

What if Max and Memes coming first, we come in third.

[A]

Then it's over.

[C]

Then it's over.

[E]

What if we come in first and they come in third?

[A]

Then it's still alive.

[D]

Very much still alive.

[A]

Very much still alive. You guys would be up.

[D]

We're just talking through all this, joking.

[A]

Oh, you. Every single. Did we just say both? Good joke, Hank. You got us. You did get us. All right.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Good, good. Mount Rushmore.

[D]

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[A]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He is the winner of the Tour Championship in Atlanta on Sunday. It is Tommy Fleetwood. Tommy, congratulations. Congratulations. You. You. You won. You won one. You won the big one. How are you feeling? Has it set in yet? Because I think, you know that the whole world was kind of rooting for you on Sunday.

[B]

Yeah, I don't. It's. It's kind of. It hasn't. It hasn't really. I don't know. It was such a cool day and I've probably replayed it over and over in my mind. It was great getting home to the family and kind of going through those feelings and emotions again. But yeah, I don't know. I had. The support for me was like, ridiculous. I absolutely loved it. I, you know, there's been such a good buzz, like the last few times that I've got into contention. Like, it's been great. I've been playing so well and I've been getting there a lot, but there's been a really good, there's been a really cool buzz every time, like I've got into contention recently. And yeah, Sunday was very cool.

[D]

Yeah. You had LeBron at home watching the golf, just tweeting about you non stop, just hoping that you were going to win. That must have been pretty crazy.

[A]

He.

[B]

People started telling me afterwards because those kind of things you don't see. And people, you know, people were saying afterwards, you know, LeBron's been tweeting, Caitlin Clark, Tyga sent a nice message, like all of that kind of stuff. So it's like when you are playing, you're so like consumed by what you're doing in that moment and like, it's such a huge thing, like when, you know, for myself or for whoever it is that's competing there. But yeah, to hear all those things, that was pretty, pretty amazing.

[A]

Yeah. Was there a moment on Sunday where you let yourself be like, you know what? I'm going to do this. Because, you know, you get up, what was it? Three with two to play. And we were watching and we're like, I think this is going to happen. I think this is going to happen. Was, did you let yourself have that moment or were you just like, no, got to stay locked in because we've been here before and it's been bad sometimes.

[B]

We've definitely been here before and it hasn't, it hasn't always gone very well. I, it's one of those things. So I, I really wanted to get past that 15th hole. I hate that 15th hole.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Like, the angle of it. I'd hit it, I'd hit a terrible shot on Saturday. And as much as, like, you know, I did a great job of staying present all day and, and staying in the moment and like playing each hole as it comes. But that was always creeping into my mind, like that one hole. And no matter, I either sort of wanted to play well enough to build like a big lead at that point or like, you know, I still, I was still gonna have to step up and hit a shot and I. I felt like. So I got off that all. I mean, I made bogey, but bogey was fine. It wasn't a disaster. And then you start to get a. When you're playing, you start to get a sense how things are going. And nobody had really. Nobody had really caught up. That was the thing. Like, nobody actually. This time that. The biggest difference was nobody actually caught up with me and, like, kept going or went past me and I, you know, I didn't come back and. And around, like, especially after the 16th green. I mean, it was. It was kind of. Again. Once again, it felt like mine to lose, but I didn't want to think about it. And even I got to the last hole, and we. We would. Both of us had hit two shots. We're just off the green, and then there's. There's a person that announces you onto the 18th green. And he kind of announced me, and he didn't say that I. I was the winner, but it sounded like he was announcing me as a winner. I was like, well, hang on a minute. It just like, Larry, like, let me. Let me finish. And I had such a big lead, but you just. I just was, like, going into this deep mental cocoon that I just wanted to get done.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. And things were looking pretty good for you most of the day. On Sunday, there was a brief moment where Scotty looked like he was going to do a Scotty thing, and we saw him on the leaderboard climbing up, and I think the. The impending sense of doom started to wash over us just a little bit. We're like, scotty's just about to go nuclear and hit, like, seven birdies in a row on the back nine and steal this thing away. Were you paying attention at all to where Scotty was on the leaderboard?

[B]

A little bit. A little bit, but not. Not loads, because I. I was kind of locked in on what I was doing. I vaguely had a score in my mind as well that I felt like if I got to. That it was especially. Especially after Patrick's start as well, because, like, a lot depending on how Patrick was doing, I was playing with him. We were on the same score. At the start of the day. He had a bit of a rough start, so he was always kind of playing catch up. But I. No, I.

[A]

You.

[B]

You do see it. As much as you try not to look at leaderboards. They're around and you do see them, but I was just sort of focusing on my thing. I felt like I was. Or I started to play well enough on the back Nine where I felt like it was in my control still. And. Yeah, so I didn't pay that much attention.

[A]

Yeah. Well, we got to say, from our perspective, the podcast perspective, we had a great time betting on Tommy Fleetwood because that was our first time backing you. We got a random email on Sunday night.

[B]

That was the first time.

[A]

First time a random email. Rob with two Bs emailed the whole show and was like, hey, Tommy Fleetwood's gonna win this Sunday is this weekend. This is not AI. And we all bet it 16 to 1. And I gotta say, I don't know what everyone says about you, like, not being able to finish. We're one. And. Oh, with Tommy Fleetwood, this is easy. Yeah.

[B]

11 oh. 100% record. So, yeah, we're talking about.

[D]

I'm gonna start betting you more often. Except I can't bet on you for the Rider Cut Cup. Now we have to turn our back.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Have you thought about that? Like all of America, it felt like was behind you in this last tournament, and now we just got to go back to, you know, Double Birds America.

[A]

We hate your guts.

[B]

Yeah, well, you don't have to.

[A]

No, we do hate my bet on you. Yeah. Yeah, we. We absolutely do. We hate you. Yeah, we hope you choke.

[B]

Well, that's. That's. That's. That's really sweet of you guys.

[A]

That's nice.

[B]

Well, it's one of the. I think. I think it's the cool thing about the Ryder cup, and I. I definitely. I will not be offended or upset by anything that anybody feels like they. They want to say or go support in the home scene, because that's how it should be. And I think that's one of the great things. We don't get to do that sort of thing either. Like, we. In our sport, obviously, you play so individually and you play all over the world, so it's not like you get like a home and away feeling in. In sort of that team environment. And I think that's one of the. The great things was about the Rider Cup Cup. Like, if you're gonna. You know, I've been lucky to play at two home Rider Cups and the support's unbelievable. And the home crowd definitely play like a huge part in. In. In, like that. That home team vibe and the atmosphere and they help you. So. Yeah, going into an away Rider Cup, I'm just. I'm just. I think we're all excited about the opportunity and. Yeah, that's how it should be.

[A]

Yeah. So have you noticed that your son has become a meme? Try Me hardest you could use. PFT says it better than I do.

[D]

Just try me hardest.

[A]

Yeah, the. I. I think on Sunday morning, I woke up in my house and I just started repeating that to myself over and over.

[D]

We were all trying me hardest 300 times.

[A]

My kids were like, what the hell? I'm just talking in an English accent.

[B]

I mean, he's right. I mean, there's two things. There was actually last week in Atlanta, there. There turned out to be like this cult following that kept shouting at me, I'm just trying my hardest. They were like, going around and that was. That was nice. But I actually, I remember watching that video and I never realized how strong his accent was. I just thought he had, like, a neutral voice, but he just said, he sounds just like I do, just a bit higher pitch. But yeah, he's. It's. It was a good message. And I. I swear we, like, I didn't know I was going to get asked a question and we'd never spoke about anything ever. And that was the answer it came out with, which was like the funniest thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It seemed like he had had media training.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

This was a perfect answer to give to a reporter after a tough round. And you just try me hottest out there.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And he's like, great perspective on his part, too. He's like, I'll go after it next year. I'll attack it again. We've got another opportunity for this. It really did seem. Yeah, yeah, it's. It seemed like he had had that training before.

[A]

It had to be in, like, a cool dad moment because, like, your kid, like, you said, you didn't. You didn't tell him what to say, and then he has a good message and you're like, I kind of did a good job here because my kid is, you know, like that. It's a really good message. It's like, there's a lot of cynicism in the sports world these days, and he's just trying my hardest.

[B]

You're absolutely right. I think there is, actually. And there's a lot of. I mean, there's like. There's so much pressure put on people. Of course there is. But he was right. It was a great message. And I think. I think we're all very. I mean, first of all, we found it very funny, but then we actually were like, oh, we're very proud here. He's given off a good message and he said the right thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Have you worked on that shot for next year so that he's going to be able to go out there and learn from what he's done in the past.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, first of all, the pressure is always on me to make the Masters. It's not about actually me competing. It's about Frankie getting another shot at that, at that green on the par three. So I've got to make sure the Masters. And he, yeah, he continues to put the work in. I don't want to tell him yet. I feel like he might be. He's probably another year away, at least from reaching the grave. But he loves it. He absolutely loves it. And, yeah, I. Actually, one of my favorite things to do is playing golf with him. He's. He's. He's great.

[A]

That's all the boys. That's so cool. So, yeah, in, in terms of the media, I, I want to give you credit because it. You always face the media after, you know, your guts get ripped out. In some of these tournaments where you finish second, was there ever a time that you were like, I really, really don't want to do this, because I don't know how you did it. I don't know how you were able to put on the face that you put on. But all credit to you, because I know that myself, personally, I'd be like, fuck this. I'm not answering anything.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, those, those moments. Those moments stink because you've, you know that you've lost or you've let it slip or someone's beat you and you've been so close and you. And you kind of. I mean, I would feel what everybody else feels like. I do feel it. I feel like I've let myself down or people down, or I haven't, you know, I've let it go. You know, I hate the word choke and stuff. I mean, those are real things. I mean, and I would never. But the important thing is to not, like, turn away from it. And I did always say through it, I think it's really important to try and say the right things, both inwardly and outwardly. And I felt like that was very important. And I do think in sport, like, best thing in the world, doing every single interview possible after doing something like last week on Sunday. But, but, you know, you don't get that without doing the rest of it either. And there's plenty of disappointments. And I, I, I just felt like, yeah, I think you should. I think you should speak after the round, good or bad. I think that's. It's kind of what people want to hear. And I also just used it as, as motivation, because I Felt like, again, say this, say the right things to yourself and say the right things outwardly. So I, I used it like I had to go and speak and, and, and say the right things. And just by doing that, you know, instead of what you, you could sulk, you could spend hours or days in, like, a bad place because you've, you know what you've done or, you know, you've let yourself down. But just by doing that, it's like, said something good straight away. So I kind of think it helped me as well.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Did you have moments where you thought to yourself, finishing in second is really.

[A]

Good, Just a lot of money.

[D]

Yeah, you get a lot of money, you're better than almost everybody else out there. Like, that's a great result. You're the second best golfer in the world on that given weekend. Objectively, that's great. You did an awesome job. Have you, did you tell yourself that?

[B]

Well, it's a great result. And I would, I did tell myself that. I told myself things. I mean, the overriding feeling is upset or angry or disappointed because you probably feel like you should have won. Like, that's just how it is. I mean, there's times when I'll finish 15th or 20th and I'll feel great because I shot at 64 on Sunday. So it doesn't really make sense in a way, like, you, you know, you finished second, had a great week, but you, you feel crappy about it.

[A]

So.

[B]

But it was. And, and you have to, again, go back to all those times where I had to talk about it and I said there was, there's, there's always, there's never any point in always just looking at the negatives and what you did wrong, because I did so many things. Well. There was times when I was leading the tournament after 71 holes or 70 holes or 69 holes goals. It's a long time, like, and you've done so well and you beat everybody up to that point, but you just let it slip. But there's so much more good than bad. And, and, yeah, I, I just think I never wanted to get in a negative spiral because I wanted to get there again. And I was going to go in that position again Sunday. I was leading by two with three to play, or I was leading my three with four to play with tough holes coming up. If you let things get to you at that point, like, it's not going to help, is it? So, like, all the things that, that or I felt like played a role in what happened on Sunday as well, right?

[D]

I've got a specific golf related question, kind of a technical one. You hit mini driver. You have a mini driver in your bag. When do you decide? Like, okay, you know what? This is not the time for the big dog. I'm going to hit mini driver instead. Like, what is a. What does a mini driver do that a three wood doesn't do?

[B]

I. So I, I ended up putting that mini driver in. I think it was three years ago now at the Masters. Two years ago. Three years ago. Can't remember. 20, 23 maybe. And I never really had a three wood that I loved. Like, I always had this field that I felt like I wanted. This like rocket launcher of a three wood that if it was a long par five, I hit the fairway, I could go for the green from 290. I would never like choose to. At 3 would take the fairway. I would just hit a tee down driver or something. So then this mini driver came out, put it in the bag, and I was like, oh my God, this thing's unbelievable. I can just swing it and hit it. It has this little tight draw because actually people always, people associate me with like hitting a good draw, but my driver, I feel like it's straight to not kind of, if anything left to right. Like, I don't like to draw my driver. So having a club that then did that was really helpful. And I don't know, it was just. I was so good with it and comfortable with it that I just took it out quite a lot and I would just hit it off a tea if I didn't quite feel right, if it made sense. Sense. And then I actually tried a three wood again this year just, just for the sake of trying it. I mean, we can, you know, we have that luxury on tour. Like you just feel like trying a club and you can try it. And I put this through your down and I, I just looked at it. I was like, that's disgusting. Like, it looks like, it looks like it should be a five wood, but it's got no loft in it. I can't hit this. And so maybe I think my three wood days might be gone.

[D]

So is there a point, like, hypothetically, if you're what, a 13 handicap, Hank? 13 handicap? Yeah, if you're a 13 handicap, for example, is there any point in you having a mini driver? Are you just bringing on mini driver so that you can talk to your friends about how you have a mini driver?

[B]

That's always a point in having a mini driver.

[A]

Yeah, your YouTube channel's awesome. Love it love, love seeing the behind the scenes stuff. You also said that you're, you're, you're now trying to break 100 as a left, which kind of, kind of dunking on all of, all of us regular golfers. You're like, yeah, like, hey, yeah, so how is that going? How is the lefty journey going? Where, what are you scoring as a lefty now?

[B]

No, I haven't actually played 18 holes on a, on a course yet. So like literally, I promise the first time I play on a course, Whether it be nine holes or 18 holes, I will be filming it and it will go on YouTube. So I haven't been on a course yet and there's a couple more videos coming out. I had a lesson left handed, which I, I said I wanted. Like I haven't had a golf lesson. I mean I have golf lessons all the time. Of course I do, but like it's, it's different to having one where I don't have a clue what I'm doing. I mean I'm completely, for everything that I know about golf. Give me a club the other way. My mind goes blank and I can't, I can't fix anything. I can't figure it out. Like I can see what's happening but I can't change it. So, so it's all new to me and like I haven't. And again, like people that don't, you know, people that play but then don't have the chance to play, like I've, I consider playing right handed golf my job and I haven't hit balls left handed for a while now. Like I've been working every day for quite a while, finishing the playoffs and finishing the air. I had the Open, so I am actually gonna hit some balls actually soon left handed. So I'll get my left handed clubs out again. But all of it just feels like very real. Like I love the game of golf and this is like, it's not starting afresh, but it kind of is and I'm used basically. So. But like the whole process is going to be like filmed.

[A]

Yeah. So some people are saying, not us, we would never say this, but some people are saying that if Tommy Fleetwood was a real man, he would play left handed in the Ryder Cup.

[B]

No, my, my left handed clubs won't be coming out at the Rider Cup.

[D]

Sounds like you're afraid.

[A]

Sounds like you're afraid.

[D]

I do it.

[A]

Come on, do it. You could be. Imagine if you beat us, lefty. We'd have to, we'd have to stop Being country.

[B]

Yeah, I can imagine it, but it won't happen.

[A]

We should do so we have a couple golfers. PFT and Hank are pretty good golfers. I'm a terrible golfer. Maybe we could figure out a time in your schedule where you and. You and I play as a scramble against PFT and Hank, but you have to play lefty and you can watch just the horrific golfing. I do do.

[B]

I would love that. I would love that. You can watch what I do. Like, I. The thing is, like, I know that there's always a disaster in me. So even if I have a little. Even if I have a little hitting some decent shots and then I think it's because, I don't know, like, I can hit bad shots right handed, but I know I can fix it. I could do something different, but because I don't know what I'm doing, my mind, I like, just goes. And that's. That's what's coming when I'm left handed.

[E]

So it feels like it's not if it's when the bad shots are coming.

[B]

Exactly. It does. It does. No matter how good it's going, there's a shank, there's a top, there's a lost ball. Like it's always in there.

[D]

Yeah, but the fun part about playing left handed, for you, it must be like what I feel when I play. When I hit a good shot, I'm super excited. I'm like, holy, how did I do that? And. And when I hit a bad shot, I'm like, whatever.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go, go, go again. Yeah, it is. It's like, but it is. It's completely like starting. It's not quite from starting scratch because I can sort of hit the ball. But. But yeah, it's. It's. I get all the. I get all the feelings that all the I. I guess regular golfers get. So I. I like it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In a sick one.

[A]

It would be a great video, though. Like you, you, you know, screwing up a shot and then having to rely on me and you standing over me being like, like, don't this up. And I will it up when.

[B]

When you screw it up and you've got to rely on me, I'll be, I'll be so nervous.

[D]

So I want to go back to the Ryder cup real quick. Did you, did you sleep naked with the Ryder cup?

[B]

Oh, in 2018? Yeah, I was. I was naked in that picture.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So what was the process behind that? You would.

[A]

You.

[D]

You didn't think it was good enough to Just beat us. You had to be like, I'm also. I'm also fully nude with the cup.

[B]

It was somebody else's idea. He thought this would be, like, a great picture or a great concert. We did a video, didn't we? Me and Fran, and we ended up going downstairs. We had the Ryder cup, and I think Fran was just very set on, like, okay, we'll just get in bed, we'll do the video, and then we'll carry on partying. And as he turned around, I just stripped off and I just got in bed. Yeah, I thought. I thought it was funny, but, yeah, that was. That was cool. Actually, people still remember it.

[D]

Yeah, it was a little bit disrespectful.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

To the United States. This is. We're adding fuel to the fire.

[B]

I don't think it was disrespectful.

[D]

I'm just finding ways to get angry at Tommy Fleetwood, a man who I've never been upset at in my entire life.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I just need some motivation as well. Yeah, that's true. We're one and.

[A]

Oh, yeah, we are one.

[D]

And we have to turn our back on you.

[A]

We can't.

[D]

We can't bet against the United States going on.

[B]

It's in three weeks as well. So we still got time.

[A]

Yeah, we got time. Yeah, we got time right now.

[B]

We don't. We don't argue now. Yeah, we can.

[A]

I got a. Kind of a tough question, but, like, obviously with you, the season, you had incredible. And coming close all these times, was there a moment at all during all the second places and being close, that you had, like, a. Not a crisis of confidence, but being like, maybe. Maybe I'm not going to do this. Maybe I'm not going to break through. Because I always find that interesting with athletes. Like, the mental part of it and being able to fight against that and be like, no, I gotta. I'm playing well. I gotta keep trusting myself.

[B]

Yeah, 100%. And I think. I think there's a bit of both. I never. I never felt like I wasn't gonna win. But more and more doubt creeps in, which is just natural because, you know, every time I'd been there, it didn't happen for one. For one reason or another. And it definitely gets. Definitely gets harder every time you go there. Not necessarily, like, harder in a playing sense, but you. You just deal with more stuff. It's not like. It's just not come easy. But I also. I was. I was also always conscious of. I felt like my. Everybody can inspire in, like, a Different way. Like, and I feel like our job, when you're on TV or you're playing sports and you want to pass things down, you want to try and, like, motivate people in whatever. Whatever way you can. You know, I haven't been, like, an amazing winner. I haven't been, like, a dominating athlete. So, like, I'm not going to motivate in that way. People aren't going to watch videos of me dominate in tournaments or anything like that. So I felt like mine, I was or is a story of perseverance, like mental fortitude in a different way. And I always kind of felt that. And I always wanted to. As many times as it will go wrong, I always wanted to remember that, like, I will get this done. I will get my first win. And it's never been. For me, it's never been about just winning once. Like, I've always said I want to win, you know, multiple times. I want to win plenty of times. But you just have to win the first one first.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And. And that's. And that's been like, something that I just haven't done. But I. Yeah, I just always felt like my story was going to be different in that way, and that's how I was gonna, like, be able to sort of motivate people. So I kept that in mind. But of course, doubts. Doubts creep in massively. The doubts were there on Sunday, but you just have to work just that little bit harder to sort of keep them at bay.

[D]

Did you do anything differently on Sunday than. Than you've done in the past, specifically, that. That felt like it was the difference in you holding onto this?

[B]

Not particularly. I don't think I played any better than the last few times. Like, I've been in contention. Like, I put it really well, but I. I also think. And again, it's. It's a strange scenario where the amount when you. I hate the word failing. Like, I just don't like it, but let's just say I, you know, I failed to win, like, a bunch of times. Like, when you do it enough times, you. So you definitely stop worrying about it. Like, you stop fearing failing because you keep doing it and you're always fine and you just get up and you dust yourself off and you go the next time. So I'm not really worried about that. But then you do have all these doubts. So it's like this kind of like, weird crossroads that you come into where you. You're kind of totally fine with where you are, and if it goes wrong, you're Fine, but you're still doubting it. But I. I just think that this time, it just. It just opened up for me, like, way more this time than other events. Like I say, nobody sort of managed to catch up with me. I hit the shots at the right time, and it. It just. It just fell on my lap, and this was the door that I got the chance to walk through. Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, it was very cool. And I. I heard that you're getting into American sports a little bit, too, with all the time you've been spending over here. Is that right?

[B]

Yeah, I love sports, so. I love American sports. I think there's so much. I think there's so much that you can enjoy and learn from American sports. I. I love it. So every time, like, with a bun, with the tailor made guys, because, you know, TaylorMade guys are there from Monday to Wednesday, like, Tuesday night, if there's. If the baseball team is in town, like, we try and go to a ballpark and watch. Like, that's Tuesday nights, our night to go to a ballpark. I love that. Just going there and hanging out. I've actually enjoyed preseason NFL, actually. I did. I did watch. I've just watched the second season of quarterback as well. So I was. I'm sort of having an NFL frenzy in my mind at the moment, so I'm enjoying it.

[D]

Do you want a Super bowl over in England? Because Roger Goodell is trying to put the super bowl in England.

[B]

Well, who knows? I. I probably. I probably shouldn't be over in England, should it?

[A]

No.

[D]

Good point.

[A]

Tommy. You like even more.

[B]

So. Yeah, that would be wrong, but. And I am actually a massive NBA fan. Basketball's probably my favorite sport.

[D]

Okay, who's your favorite player?

[B]

Steph Curry. Just when I. When I started playing on the PGA Tour, Golden State, Steph Curry, they were like, you know, they're obviously the best team, and I sort of latched onto them a little bit. Bit of a glory supporter.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Have you ever played golf with them?

[B]

I haven't, no.

[A]

He's good.

[D]

Got to make that happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I'd love to.

[A]

All right, I got a couple last questions. The first one was so Tron Carter from no Laying Up. He is a massive fan of yours. He's shown up to a couple of the tournaments when you've been in contention. Would you get a little bit nervous when he showed up on Sunday and like. Like, oh, here we go. Because I. I know at least two times. I know he went to England, I believe, once, and then he was there on Sunday? Yeah. Did you notice him when he. When he showed up? You're like, okay, here we go. We got to win this.

[B]

I. I didn't see him that day, actually, when he showed up, but I saw him afterwards, and. And, like, we sort of had a little chat, and then I. I didn't see him. I didn't see him on Sunday last week, until the very end, and I saw him. The presentation was going on, and I saw him in the crowd and I gave him a little fist pump. That's awesome because he's. He's been such a great supporter, so, like, I. I appreciate it all, but, yeah, he's. He's been great. So it's. It's just cool when you've been through, like, when you've been through it and. And you've had people that, like, have supported you for so long, like, getting to share, like, a cool moment, and then we finally did it. It's great.

[A]

That's an awesome. Yeah, like us.

[D]

We've supported you for so long.

[A]

Yeah, we're one.

[B]

And.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Shout out. Shout out. Rob with two Bs. All right, my last question. Rob question. R, H, O, B, A, C, K.com promo code. Taylor, take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code. Take. Your caddy's a hoss. He's a tall guy.

[B]

He's a big boy. Yeah, everybody actually thinks I'm. When they see me in person. They think, like, I'm taller than what people expect because I stand next to him all day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I'm really short.

[A]

Is it. Is it nice having a guy like, you know, if goes down, like, he's. He's got your back. He's. He's a big guy. Guy.

[B]

I could take him in a fight, no problem. So it's not.

[D]

Wait, how tall is he?

[B]

Six five or six? Six.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's funny watching you guys walk down the. Down the fairways. You're like, damn, that's a. That's a big caddy.

[B]

Yeah, like I said, because everybody thinks I'm. I'm, like five foot two or something, and I'm. And I'm not.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

I'm five, three. But now I'm bigger than that. Yeah. Like, everybody just thinks I'm shorter than what I am because he is a big boy.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. All right, so, Ryder cup, any predictions?

[B]

Well, of course, I'm gonna stand by my. My boys and my team and say that you know, I'm gonna go in with full faith in, in our team and say Europe are gonna bring the Ryder cup back. I, I, I can't say anything other than that.

[D]

Well, is there one guy that you really, you are really hoping you don't get matched up against?

[B]

No, no, I, I'm sorry about sitting on the fence on that one. I would love to give you a better answer, but no, I, I love being part of the team. I love getting a chance to play any of those guys. Like, I, I just think they're a Rider Cup. You're, you're guaranteed to get an unbelievable matchup. Like whether you're playing foursomes, four ball, singles, like it's going to be like you're going to be playing someone that you think, yeah, this is, this is awesome. I get the chance to play him. So, so no, I'll, I'll happily, you know, go ahead against anyone because I just think it's, it's so cool and what an amazing opportunity.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Tommy, thank you so much. Incredible job on Sunday. We really enjoyed watching you play and win and worst of luck in the Ryder Cup.

[B]

Oh, well, thanks, guys. Yeah, we're one and out.

[A]

Yeah, we're one and.

[D]

Okay, that's true.

[A]

We're one and. Oh, together. This will suck. When, if USA loses and we bet on them and now, now we're one and one.

[D]

I might, yeah, I might have to just bet on Tommy to win his matchups and then on the USA to win the Ryder Cup.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

How about that?

[A]

That's good. Hedge. I mean.

[B]

Yeah, that would be. What, so would I be included in like 30 then or would that.

[D]

Yeah, it would count that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. Just doing me job.

[B]

I promise you I'll be trying my hardest.

[A]

All right, thanks so much, Tommy. Congrats again, man.

[D]

Thank you, Tommy.

[B]

Thanks guys. Thanks so much.

[A]

All right, see ya.

[D]

Take care.

[A]

Appreciate it, man. That was fun.

[D]

Thanks for making this work.

[B]

Yeah, thank you very much, you guys.

[A]

Yeah, we'll do a video sometime whenever we can get our schedules set. We'd love to come.

[B]

I would love that. Like I say, there's literally never going to be anything I do left handed that's not really on camera. So it'll be very. Promise you I'm not practicing it turn up any good. I'll be awful.

[D]

All right, very cool.

[A]

All right, see ya.

[B]

See you guys.

[D]

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[A]

Okay. We now welcome on a very special guest. He is a recurring guest. It is Yahoo. Sports college football writer. Senior College football writer ROSS Sure.

[F]

Senior.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[F]

That doesn't make me old. Does that make me old?

[A]

No, you're good. Senior college football writer Ross Dellinger, who we had on last year, great talk with you last year. And we figured, let's talk some college football. Let's also talk barstool versus Ohio State because you seem to be the most plugged in guy. So why don't you tell us what you have found out and we can maybe clear the whole record because it's gone back and forth a million times. It feels like.

[F]

Yeah, well, I didn't, I didn't expect to wake up Tuesday morning and be reporting on a barstool ohio state big 10 drama. But you never know, right, what you're gonna run into in this, in this crazy industry these days. So I woke up Tuesday morning and yeah, I was, I was, we, we taped our podcast, college Football in Choir, Tuesday morning. And before we got on the tape, we had talked about what we were going to talk about. And one of the things was, you know, the report about Dave Portnoy being banned from Ohio Stadium. And so before we got on that call, I did what I thought was sort of due diligence and just reached out to some people, including folks at Ohio State, who then decided to put out basically a statement saying that they didn't ban Dave Portnoy. And it was Fox's decision to ban or to not let Dave Portnoy onto the field. And then it kind of went from there. Then the Big Ten released a statement that said that Dave Portnoy won't appear on the main Fox Big Big Noon kickoff set in any of its stadiums this year. So it kind of took off like a little wildfire there. And so that's sort of where we are.

[D]

Okay, so let me ask you this based on the chain of events as it sounds like some organizations were reacting to what, what other organizations said. Do you think that it's likely that Ohio State was the initial party that said no? Dave Portnoy.

[F]

Here'S what I know, and I think this was announced maybe in like, mid July, I feel like somewhere around there and pretty much immediately, like the next week was Big Ten media day, football media day in Las Vegas. I was there, and it was made pretty clear to me there from a variety of people, including I think people from Ohio State, that they weren't like, super thrilled with the announcement, and some of them were taken by surprise on the announcement. So I will say that. And you, you, you know, so it wouldn't surprise me at all for that they expressed some level of disagreement or concern about, about the role of, of Dave Portnoy on Big Noon Kickoff.

[A]

Okay, so, all right, so here's, here's what I know, and you could tell me if this is, is wrong or not. I see. I think what, what happened is Ohio State doesn't want us there. That's, that's a fact. We were going to be there. The barstool college football show was going to be in Columbus on, on Saturday against, you know, Texas, Ohio State. They said, no. Ohio State said, no, you cannot be on campus. We had our travel booked. Like, this isn't just me making it up. We were ready to go. And then I think it obviously came out. And then Ohio State might have been like, well, this kind of doesn't look great that we're trying to ban someone. So Fox maybe jumped in and was like, hey, we're not going to have them in any stadium. I do think Ohio State doesn't want barstool on campus. I think it's great for the rivalry. By the way, I have no problem with Ohio State being petty here. I think Ohio State fans should, should have no blame. Like, no one should be going after Ohio State fans. This is all great for the rivalry, but Ohio State does not want barstool on campus next to the big Noon kickoff set. They don't want that. And they, they basically told us that.

[F]

So I, I, I agree with you in that this is great for the rivalry and college football. Like, we all have to. I was talking to somebody today about this. We live in a college football bubble, right, where, where we just take everything so seriously, all these things. And like, the people outside of the bubble, especially, like, I, I live in D.C. right, and I deal with a lot of, like, congressional people or whatever, and they're, like, dealing with, like, real problems, like wars and people dying in taxes, in tariffs and like, it reminds me, college football is entertainment. It's just sports. They're games and their entertainment. And, and so all this does is sort of like, like it's a piece of entertainment. Right? I mean, I think it's like Andy Staples, my colleague, he, he said this on our podcast this morning. It's like sort of like lean into it. It's like WWE wrestling sort of thing. Like, like lean into it all and it's, it's sort of good for, sort of good for in a way, college football in, in maybe even the Big Ten.

[A]

Right.

[F]

Any news is good news. Fox, all that. So I think you've got a great point. Yeah, a lot of that.

[D]

If it, if it's good for anyone, it's really good for Dave. Yes, this is the environment where Dave is, is very, very comfortable playing at this level. Like, this is the best news. Hey, Dave, we're going to ask you to do less work this weekend. You're not going to be there, so you get to stay at home. You get to live in Florida for the weekend.

[A]

Well, no, he is going to Columbus.

[D]

Oh, he's going to Columbus. Just going on. Yeah. So he has to do less work still. And also he is now the focus of every, everyone's attention going into this game. There's no place that Dave feels more at home than where he's at right now.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's, it's so, so what's the future though? Like, is Ohio State going to ban us from every ever going to their campus? Because it feels that way and it feels like Ohio State's very upset at Fox and what, like they're, they're the number one partner for Fox. They are the, you know, I mean, obviously Michigan, but like Ohio State, you need Ohio State for the Big Ten. That is a very big piece of the puzzle. Puzzle.

[F]

Well, you know, this, this sort of drama is a good reminder of the connective tissue between conferences in their media affiliate where they get most of their money from.

[A]

Right, right.

[F]

Where they rely on these TV networks, the SEC, the ESPN, obviously the Big Ten to Fox and NBC and CBS, the Big 12 to Fox and ESPN. They have them both acc to ESPN. Like they get a majority of their schools get a majority of their, their revenue from these TV contracts. And so it's sort of like one of the questions is always like, who's making these decisions? Who's running these conferences and how? What's the influence that a TV network has? And you know, I, I think it's, it's for sort of like a fascinating dynamic moving forward because you're right, right. Like Fox has this huge share in the Big Ten, pays a lot of money to the Big Ten in its schools and wants to see them thrive and do well. But they also want to compete with the other networks and have the personalities like a Dave and you guys and others to compete with their, you know, their competition. And so it's going to be fascinating to see sort of how this evolves. Right. And, and we see some of this in the SEC too, right? We've seen this. Certainly there's, there, there's McAfee on the, on college game day. There's Paul Feinbaum on the SEC network who has certainly had run ins with people at SEC schools who will push back on certain things done and said. So it's a pretty fascinating dynamic.

[D]

It is very interesting. Yeah. So can we talk a little bit about the college football coming up this weekend? Yeah, I'm excited. I looked at the grid, looked at the schedule. My Saturday is book solid. I'm probably not going to leave my couch at all. The dog will be lucky if I, if I let him out like three times over the course of that day. It's going to be an awesome day of college football all. Let's start with Miami Notre Dame Catholics versus convicts. Run it back again. I, we just talked to a couple of our in house college football experts that's coming out on Friday's show. But they were very, they were kind of split on this. Some people that I've talked to are really high on Miami this year. So what do you see happening this weekend?

[F]

Well, unfortunately, and I got a text from somebody in Miami this morning about this because I guess our like picks are like staff picks, not game picks but like season pick sort of things came, came out and one of the questions was who's going to be like the most disappointing team this year. And I picked Miami. And so I got like a nasty, I kind of got a nasty message this morning. But I had to pick somebody. I'm gonna make somebody angry, right? But you know, but I do, you know, Miami's what, top 12, 13. So I, the thought is that they probably won't finish inside that maybe this year. And I don't, I don't know, like I'm just throwing darts at the wall here. Aren't we all like with these predictions? Right? I mean we're just kind of throwing darts at the wall. I do think, I do think that this is going to be A really, really good game I'm excited about. So I'm, I'm going to be in Columbus, but I'm flying out of Columbus Saturday night to Miami and then covering. Covering Miami, Notre Dame Sunday night. And it's a. It's a really. I mean, the atmosphere should be awesome. Notre Dame always travels well, brings a lot of folks down there. But I do think that I do give the Irish an edge. Even though we sort of, like, don't know a ton about either of these teams because they've lost a lot. They've got new quarterbacks, obviously. We know a lot about Carson. Carson Beck coming over from Georgia. Big storyline of the off season, you know, So, I mean, a lot of players don't transfer out of Georgia, right? And. And so, so that's sort of a big storyline on how. And he had some. He had some sort of off the field girlfriend sort of drama that unfolded this spring. So it'll be, It'll be interesting. I will say this about Mario Crist. They have built it up there, right? Every year they've gotten better. Every year the lines look more and more like SEC lines, their defensive and offensive lines. They're spending a lot of money and investing big time down there. So where that comes. A lot of expectations.

[A]

All right, so you travel all around the country, you talk to everyone. Give me a coach or a team that you think is, like, on the rise, that we're not, you know, know, we obviously know the, the mainstays, but a team, you're like, hey, this coach has things moving in the right direction. This program feels like it's getting momentum.

[B]

Huh?

[F]

Good question. You know, one of my, of my, like, season picks, I ended up. I think I ended up picking, you know, Clemson to win the, win the acc. And then they were sort of my, like, if there was going to be a surprise this year, like the big, like, surprise was that a school other than the Big Ten or SEC would, would win the national championship, which in my mind would be Clemson. So, like, that's not really answering your question because Clemson's not like some upstart, you know, but. But in a way they've had. Right.

[A]

They've.

[F]

They sort of had a few down years and it feels like I visited there back in April or May, and it feels like they're. That they're coming back.

[A]

Back. Yeah, right.

[F]

Like, it just kind of feels that way there. And they've got a really veteran quarterback who I think is going to probably win or get very close to winning the, the Heisman Trophy is going to be up there probably at the end. Kate Clubnik and I, I think they're, they're getting close to. They made a defensive coordinator change. But anyway, so I think when I think of, like, young coaches, like up and comer, I, I go down in New Orleans actually, and I look at John Summerall and what he's done at Tulane and like, look out, right? He's going to be like another, it's going to be another coaching off season where year, you know, somebody like that is going to be at the top of everybody's list when they make coaching changes. And they're probably going to be a lot of coaching changes this year. There weren't a lot last year. It was like a historic low. And usually what happens after historic low is we get a really big high.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

I was actually, I was looking at some of your reporting that you did earlier on the, the future of realignment and what college football is going to look like, like 2, 5, 10 years down the road. Are we going to get to a place where there's one giant, like Division 1 conference? Are we going to get to a place where it's like the Power 2 model?

[F]

Yeah, it's like the question, like everybody wants to know is, is like look into the crystal ball and tell us in five, seven years when all this movement is going to happen, which we know when it's going to happen. We at least know when it's probably going to happen between 2030 and 2032 do, because the Big 12 and Big 10 TV deals come open then the College Football Playoff deal ends then in 31. The NCAA basketball tournament contract ends in 32. So you have all these things that come open. So, like, that's the span of time where you're going to have some kind of, like, shift into whether it's a super league or, you know, a couple of leagues sort of taking over or, you know, a split from the ncaa. You're, your, your whatever is going to happen is probably going to happen then. And I don't, I don't know what's going to happen, but I can tell you something's going to happen, right? We're going to have, like, we're going to have a conference, another round of conference realignment. That's going to see the, the, the biggest brands continue to consolidate into one or two leagues. And it's just kind of like the economy and capitalism in general, like, that's how it works. Right. We see that in every walk of life outside of college sports. The biggest brands consolidate so they can make more money and keep the money that they make. And I think we're just going to see that. And obviously, we know two schools sued the acc, although they settled, they settled for an easier exit path out of the acc.

[A]

Right.

[F]

So that news flash, right, they're going to almost certainly leave at some point, and the odds are they're going to leave during that stretch and go to the SEC or Big Ten. And that's going to cause a domino effect in the accident, potentially could impact the Big 12 as well. And then you're going to have some kind of conglomeration of schools, whether it's Big Ten and SEC only or some other schools also mixed in, sort of probably separate themselves from everybody else, because no longer can you have the University of Texas with a budget of 250 million competing in the same division as UTSA with a budget of 40 million. Right, right. You like that's. That's probably not going to happen anymore.

[A]

All right. You said, you mentioned your picks, your preseason picks. Can we go around the conferences, the Power4 conferences? You can give us your championship game. Who's going to win that conference and why? So we'll start with the sec. What do you have in the sec?

[F]

Sec, I have a little bit of surprise. I have LSU winning the SEC championship in that LSU Clemson game. This, this weekend is going to be a ball. I actually wanted to go to that one, but just as far as flights and getting to Miami. I, I went. I'm gonna go to Columbus instead. But that's a really, like, I think LSU and Clemson, you know, could be in the top eight, top four at the end of the year, at the playoff. So I've, I have lsu. I think I've also beating Georgia in the, in the, in the SEC championship game.

[A]

Okay. Brian Kelly getting off the hot seat.

[F]

Yeah. Garrett Naspire.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of, a lot of pressure down there. They spent, they spent a lot of money. They were spending. I think I went down there for a story in February there. They spent on their team $5 million two years ago. They spent this year $18 million.

[D]

What's he going to do different in week one? I feel like Brian Kelly, week one hasn't always turned out the best.

[F]

Yeah, it hasn't been great. Right. I think they think LSU's lost five straight season openers, even going back to, like, Orgeron's first two years. So this is a big one at Clemson. It's going to be rocking there. You know, you Got the battle of the death valleys. Yeah, it's, it's. Yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be an exciting one. But you know what? The loser of that game, and this is kind of like the good and bad of an expanded playoff. Right. If you have a 14 playoff, the loser that game is probably out or certainly has to do a lot to get in and the loser that game now in a 12 team playoff is okay, especially if it's close game.

[A]

Yeah. Are you not believing in Arch Banding?

[F]

No, I'm a believer in Arch Banding. In fact, I visited there two weeks ago, got a story coming out on yahoo tomorrow about Mr. Arch Manning and.

[A]

Give us some juicy tidbits from the story.

[F]

Okay, well, first of all, the one thing concerns me about Texas in general is offensive and defensive lines. Offensive lines, all new. One guy, one returning starter. So he's going to be throwing passes too. And all new receivers too.

[A]

Right.

[F]

I think they lost their top three or top four receivers. So a lot of pressure on him. Juicy stuff. In my story, Arch is not like, you know, he's not like the most entertaining drama filled guy. Right. The Mannings are kind of have like these southern gentlemen who just kind of like talk slow and are sort of boring. Really nice and polite, but kind of boring. Well, what is the most interesting thing? So I talked to a few of Arch's friends. They go to this place in Austin called Matt's. El Rancho.

[D]

Love it.

[F]

I don't know if, yeah, if you guys have been, it's a pretty good like Tex Mex spot. Great case and yeah, yeah, like Bob's Queso apparently is real popular there.

[A]

Armstrong.

[F]

Yeah, there you go.

[D]

I'm familiar with Matt's. All right, so I've waited hours for Margot margaritas there.

[F]

Yeah, so. So one of their friends was telling me that Arch, unfortunately for him, when they go there, he can't, he can't get the margaritas because too many people knows him there, you know, so he can't get like real sloppy so he can't do all that. But he likes to. They go wake surfing on, on Lake Travis there and they eat Chipotle a lot and they go to Mattel Ranchos and in this past summer actually him and a friend visited, they went to Cabo and to be with Peyton to Peyton has like this villa in Cabo, like on the beach and they hit golf balls off of a mat into the ocean from Peyton's home. I'm like, wow, that sounds, that sounds pretty cool.

[D]

Yeah, that sounds excellent.

[A]

I saw that Eli. There was a story that Eli told Arch, never take a picture with a drink in your hand. So because there's the famous Eli picture of him, like, you know, with his eyes half close. He's like, if you have a. If you have a drink in your hand and you blink at the wrong time, it just becomes a meme.

[D]

It became the SEC boyfriend meme.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's good advice from the uncle.

[D]

Yeah. Did he address losing his student ID like, his first week in Austin? Because that was very relatable, too.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Twice, right? He lost his ID ID twice. Once he left it in English class. I don't know what happened the other time, but he. He left it in English class and somebody found it, actually scanned it to get into the building, the football building. Building, and thankfully didn't, like, you know, do anything nefarious in there. Just handed the ID over and the ID got all the way up to Sark, who FaceTimed arch with the ID and was like, hey, missing something, buddy.

[A]

That's awesome.

[D]

I love that.

[A]

That's awesome.

[D]

So. So what about the Big Ten? Who do you have at the top of the Big Ten this year?

[F]

Who do I have a Penn State. I have Penn State winning the Big Ten. I. I visited a couple week. Couple weeks ago actually, to sit down with Jim Knowles, who's like a fascinating guy, defensive coordinator there. Fascinating story. Grew up in, like, you know, downtown, like, Philly, and just like a Philly guy, you know, smoked cigars and he was, he was really, really fascinating interview. I think he's going to have that defense ready to go. I think Drew Aller at quarterback, that's obviously the big question. I sat down with Drew. He spent the off season training, and he's gotten faster. He's lost some weight, he's eating right. He said. So, you know, that, that interception at the end of the. The Notre Dame game, I think still sticks with him. It was, you know, I mean, you guys probably would agree it was like one of the worst late game college football playoff decisions we've seen.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

And he knows that, like, and he knows that he just kind of sits with him. So I think the motivation. All that from them, I think they win the. I think they win the Big Ten.

[A]

And who do they beat?

[F]

Who did I have them beating? I think I have them beating Ohio State. Yeah. Which would be a rematch, obviously a regular season, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Are you believing at all in Oregon? Dante Moore?

[F]

Yeah, I am super talented player, but obviously they Have a lot of new pieces and. But I am a believer. I mean, they like the pieces around him. Right. They've done an incredible. Like, Dan Lanning's done an incredible job there of recruiting. And obviously, in this new sort of NIL era, they have more advantage than a lot of schools. And I think they're using that. It's pretty clearly. And Dan is. Dan surrounded him with a lot of good pieces, and they should be right there, too. Right? I mean, they should make the playoffs.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What about the acc? You said Miami would be your disappointment of the year, so I assume it's Clemson over someone else.

[F]

Yeah, Yeah. I. Yeah, I've got. I've got. Think Clemson. I don't even know. Who do I have them feeding? Let's see. Maybe it's. I don't think it's the Fighting Belichicks. It would be great, though, if the Fighting Belichicks were to somehow, you know, win like, nine or 10 games and get to the ACC championship game against Clemson. Could you guys imagine? You know, I spent some time with him last week, actually. Him and his sons in. In Chapel Hill, which was weird. I got all the Belichicks are there, and it was a fascinating interview because the sons don't talk a lot, and Steve is much like his dad. He doesn't say a whole lot. And Brian is not like his dad at all. Like, he talks a lot. So it was kind of fascinating. They're all back together. Like, he's got, like, six, seven grandkids now living there. But it would be fascinating to me if they make it there. But I. I think in the end, I must have Clemson.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Playing. I have to look. I think I do have them playing Louisville for the championship. Have Clemson win and going pretty far in the playoffs, too, I think.

[D]

So with the Belichick thing, it's interesting because, like, I feel like the closer college football season has come, the less we're talking about Bill Belichick, which should be one of the biggest storylines in the country once. Once the games start happening. So, like, how are things looking from a camp perspective in Chapel Hill?

[F]

Yeah, it was. It was. Well, first of all, they have, like, 70 new players. It's crazy. Kind of like West Virginia. I visited them a few weeks ago and wrote about Rich ride. They have 74 new players, I think. I think North Carolina has, like, 70 or 71 new players. So you've got a completely new coaching staff, all these new players, and a similar thing that Rich Ride told me at West Virginia, which was I have no effing idea what we're going to look like. Like, I don't. I can't predict it. Like, Belichick was similar, right? It's like, how am I supposed to predict this? Like, everybody's new, right? And then a lot of his coaching staff, obviously, is. NFL. Got guys like his two sons. One of them has never coached in college. So that was actually really interesting to, like, get their perspective on what the difference is. And it was. It was kind of fascinating to hear them talk about how they're enjoying, you know, coaching college players because they're showing them, like, techniques and stuff they've never seen before. Yeah, right. I mean, they're coming. They have all these NFL stuff, and everything in the players are like, wow, this is amazing. Like, I've never seen. Seen this before. So that was. That was really cool. That was.

[B]

It was.

[F]

That was pretty neat. But. But who knows. Who knows how they're gonna be? I mean, you know, and. And when I was down there, somebody asked about their quarterback battle. They asked Bill Belichick, like, hey, are you ready to nick a name a starter in the quarterback competition? And, like, kind of tongue in cheek, he's like, yeah, we'll get that right over to you guys, along with all of our starting lineup. Yeah, we'll put that out two weeks before. Again, you know, he's still got that.

[D]

Like, he's got to love this.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. And then the hardest one, the Big 12, the. The conference of chaos, which I. I love. I love that it stays that. But can you. What was your pick and reasoning?

[F]

Yeah, it's. I don't have good reasoning for any of it, but. Because the Big 12 is crazy, man. Like, you never know. I. And I told. I was talking to some people at the Big 12 earlier this week. I'm like, you guys gotta, like, lean into this. We don't know what the hell is going to happen.

[A]

Yep.

[F]

Every weekend, like, just lean into, like, the. The conference of chaos, man. Like, the parody in that league is like no other power conference league. But anyway, I picked Baylor actually to win at all. And just so happens about a month ago, I went down there and spent some time with Dave Aranda and those guys, but I think. I think they've got, you know, he's got returns, returning quarterback, and I think he's got enough pieces from the Portal. They had a big Portal year. They got 23 players out of the portal. They had not gotten 25 players, I think, out of the portal the last three years. So they're start. They started to really realize we got to plug some holes here. And then he's kind of overhauling the defense. You know, he's Mr. Mastermind and he's sort of overhauling the defense. And I just kind of have trust he's gonna sort of put the pieces in the, in the right.

[B]

Right.

[F]

You know, in the right place to, to sort of get it done. I actually have them beating Iowa State for the championship, which, you know, obviously Iowa State just pulled off, pulled off the win in, in Ireland against Kansas State in a typical sort of Big 12 fashion game. Right. Crazy ugly at the end. Anybody can win. Exciting sort of sort of contest.

[D]

What about, what about Rich Rod? What was it like spending time with him? Because he's a fascinating guy and his whole story about his journey, you know, from West Virginia to where he is now, full circle. It's fascinating. So what was he like as a guy?

[F]

Yeah, like. And I go back a few years with him and it was great getting time spending time with him. He's, you know, he's still that guy that is just. Even though he's 62, it's kind of like he's that guy that was there when he was in his 30s and 40s at West Virginia. He's yelling at players like crazy. He's gone non stop. You know, he's working like 18, 20 hours a day. I mean, it's, it's. He's grinding, man. And it was fun sort of to follow him around and hear about kind of the emotional side of this. Right. I mean, this has a, this whole move for him has real, a lot of emotions to it, right. I mean, he was, when he left there, they hated him, right? They like, they turned, turned on one of their own and to them, to the fan base there. And the people of that state, he turned one of their own turned on them by leaving and leaving sort of the way he did. And so nobody ever thought, right, that he would dare come back or be allowed back to come. To come back to Morgantown. And so it's sort of this reunion of, of a fan base in a state. They got 1.8 million people people in the state of West Virginia, right? It's tiny. They're a pretty fairly poor state. They have zero billionaires in the state. Like there's only like five other states in the US that have zero billionaires. West Virginia is one of them. And, and so they're, they're this, this state that no pro sports, right? Everything is West Virginia football And everything for so long was Rich Rod. And when he left, and I have a part of the story was he's from a little town called Grant Town and it's like 40 minute drive south of Morgantown. And I went there and guys, it's unbelievable. Like you, you drive through the town in about two and a half minutes. I mean it's, it's tiny. It's got 550 people in it. It's an old mining town. When the mine was shut down like 50 years ago, basically the town lost like almost all of its population and schools closed and all the, all the restaurants closed. There's nothing, there's nothing there except homes. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a community center and a city hall that closes at 3pm every day. So it's crazy. So I went back there and there was a sign, you know, in, you know, welcome to Grant Town. And below it was home of Rich Rodriguez. Well, that sign when he left for Michigan was not just like torn off that it's post, but it was like vandalized and like thrown somewhere into the river. Right. The nearby river. And my part of the story is when he got rehired and when he had this emotional outpouring at the press conference where he basically said, I regret leaving. I should have never left here. They put the sign back up. A new sign, but they put the sign back up, you know, and it's like, it's sort of emblematic of the state in general of he has, has come back to sort of try to restore the glory. He's sort of sorry for the way he left in for leaving and we forgive him, but as somebody there told me, they'll forgive him now, but you gotta win.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. It's a cool story. So you, you go everywhere, which is awesome. What's your favorite facility. Facility in, in the country? What's the one that still impresses you? We're like, man, this is, they're. They're doing it at a different level.

[F]

Like, like just like. Football facility.

[A]

Yeah. Football facility. Yeah.

[F]

I got some tours the last couple years of some brand new facilities that are just unbelievable. Like the Georgia, Georgia's new facility. Football facility is crazy. In fact, it's funny. This is a funny story. So this is like three years ago they opened their facility. They toured me around and at the end of the tour I had an interview with Kirby Smart. So I'll walk into Kirby's office and I'm like, dude, this facility is Unbelievable. Like, I mean, it's better than any NFL facility I've ever seen. And he looked at me, he said, well, that's what happens when they won't let us pay the players.

[A]

Yep.

[F]

So now we're in this rev share world. Right. Where legally they, they get, they finally get to pay the players. But Georgia sticks out in Nebraska's. I got a tour of that last year. That's a facility that opened this past year. It's, it's also just stunning as well. I got a tour of Clemson's non football facility. Clemson opened a, a facility that's just as good as any football facility I've ever seen. But it's for all the other sports. It's for all their, like Olympic sports. Yeah. And it, and it is stunning as well. So, so I told the people at Clemson, I'm like, you guys open this at the right time because, you know, right now a lot of people are pausing facility upgrades too, because they're right. Having to pay the players. So all the, all the schools who did, who upgraded their facility like in the last three to five years sort of have this advantage.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. No, you're right. For a while it was like, we can't pay players. We can put in a third barber.

[F]

Chair or a waterfall.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that pod.

[D]

This will become the difference. Yeah, no, it's, it's interesting when you look at like the behind the scenes stuff and how, you know, they decorate things, how they lay them out, which coach has the least decorated office, like the plainest office. Because I like those coaches that work in the middle of the castle, but then you go into the room where they actually work and it's like something their, their wife gave them to hang up on the wall. That's like leaning against the wall in the corner.

[F]

Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to think here. So I, you know. Well, I was just talking about going to Penn State. I didn't go into James Franklin's office, but I went into again, Jim Knowles, the defensive coordinator, man. And there, there's nothing there right there. There's nothing in his office. And he's like typical, like old school defensive coordinator guy. I love that. Right from Philly. And there's like, yeah, there's, there's nothing in his office except X's and O papers in like a dry erase board in the corner with a bunch of like X's and O's. Right. And schematics and play calls and things like that. I mean he's, he's football guy through and through football. Football guy.

[A]

Yeah. All right. Ross has been awesome. I have one last question. Roback question. R, H, O, b a c k.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. We've, we've danced around it. Who's your national champion?

[F]

Yes. I was waiting for you guys to ask this. I don't feel great about it. I don't feel great about any pick or prediction because we're predicting 19, 20, 21 year olds. But I picked Penn State to win it all. Oh, this is the year.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

And I actually picked them to, to beat. I think I have the championship game, them beating LSU for the, for all the, for all the marbles. So I think it, maybe it's Penn State's year. You know, they, they've got a veteran quarterback who seems to have a lot of motivation and has improved in the off season. And they've got a defense run by one of the better defensive coordinators in the country with, I think it's five or six players returned from last year who would have been drafted in the first two rounds. Right. So they're, they're pretty stocked and in, in locked and low it.

[D]

All right. Group of 5 Representation in the College Football Playoff, is it Boise State?

[F]

Yeah, it's hard not to say Boise State. You know, I think that's, I think that's who I, who I ended up picking. But keep an eye on that John Somer and Tulane down there, man. You know, they're, they're, they're doing, they're doing big things down there. He's had a lot of success, obviously. Losing their quarterback, Daring Minta to, to Duke wasn't, wasn't great. But, but yeah, it's hard to not pick Boise in that, in that race.

[A]

Yeah. Cool. Ross, thank you so much. We'll see what the future holds for Ohio State. Barstool. I, I, again, I don't know if you, in your reporting, you know that they did ban the show, our show, like, so that part is true. And I know that they can, we can do semantics about Dave being in stadiums, but they did not allow us to do the show on campus on Saturday to kick.

[F]

So where are y' all doing the show?

[A]

We're gonna do studio first week, and then the next week we'll be on the road.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

Okay, we'll see.

[F]

You know where you're going this season? Do you plot out beforehand?

[A]

It's all, it's, it's Big Noon. It's whatever Big Noon decides. So we'll, we'll join them for six of the week Saturdays in the fall, which we're excited for. We're very excited for. It's gonna be a lot of fun. But yeah, I don't think we'll be going to Columbus.

[F]

So Connor Stallions is going to get in. Get in. Dave Portnoy into the stadium some way.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. He said you want tickets.

[D]

Yeah, it's part of the kgb.

[A]

Yeah. That's great.

[F]

The kgb.

[D]

Yeah, it's great.

[F]

Yeah. Well, hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Always. Always a pleasure.

[D]

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[D]

Listeners fuse.

[A]

Let's do it.

[E]

Do you ever listen back to episodes of the show on the day they drop or how often do you revisit old interviews, sl episodes?

[D]

No, I don't. I. I'll check in sometime. If somebody's like, hey, the audio's messed up, then I'll drop in on the episode. I listen to it. But no, I don't particularly like hearing the sound of my own voice.

[A]

Yeah, I don't either. I also every now and like, if some. Yeah, if something's up, I'll go listen. And then I just, I. I feel like I've forgotten everything. I think I told this story. I've even forgotten the story that I was on Waddle and Sylvie, my guys, ESPN 1000. And we were talking about Joe or Tibbs. Yeah, I was like, yeah, he got his office got bugged his last days in Chicago. And they're like, we never heard that story. And then they googled it and it was just me asking Joaquim Noah that. So I was reporting a story that came from this podcast as confidently Factual information.

[D]

I sometimes I rewatch the clips. So if there's, like, a time when Max gets really mad.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And I feel like I didn't get the great. I didn't get the best angle on it from this seat. I watched back to see the video of that. Not that Max would ever get mad bad.

[C]

It's, it's audio is also not bad that often.

[A]

No, it's not. No.

[D]

I'm saying, like, but sometimes there'll be somebody that says, hey, the audio sounds bad in this one part, so I'll just check in and. Or if, like, Hank falls asleep during the show, I don't catch it, I'll go back, watch the clip of that.

[A]

Yeah. It's also funny watching, Watching, like, so.

[E]

You watch one clip in your whole life, Maybe two.

[D]

Well, I, I said if that happens.

[A]

I watch. I watch. It's always interesting when I see old clips pop up of, like, the old studios that, that always, like our first. First studio. That was just a shared studio. That was just bare walls. It's like, damn, this is cool. We've come pretty far away.

[E]

Sometimes if I felt like I was being gaslit by you guys, and then I wake up, I, like, try and go back and hear what the listeners are listening to and, and then see if I was right. Delusional.

[A]

And how often are you right?

[D]

50.

[E]

50.

[A]

Okay. Max, you watch back your own club clips?

[B]

Never.

[D]

Literally never.

[C]

And people have been resurfaced. Like, the, the Phillies one just keeps coming off. I, I, I can't scroll past it quicker.

[A]

Oh, I love that clip so much. I look ridiculous.

[E]

All right, at what age do you have to take down the second TV in the living room? Oh, I'm 27 years old. I got a second TV hung up so my fiance can watch a reality show with Bluetooth headphones while I watch Red Zone and we still hang out together. It's slowly turned into a second TV for me, and now I have one main game and the Octobox going all at once. At what point do I have to take down the second tv?

[D]

You got to get a third tv.

[A]

Yeah. You got to even it out. That's all it is. It's not that the second TV is not the problem. Well, it is a problem in the fact that it looks weird. So then you got to get the third tv. They've got to go one on top, two on the bottom that are smaller or one in the middle, two on the side. And you got to make it look classy.

[D]

You can't have the Second tv. Be free.

[E]

You can't make it look classy in the living room.

[A]

No. You got to go from dive bar to Chili's.

[E]

You don't even have second TV in your living room.

[A]

I have. In my living room, I have one tv. But then my basement, I have five.

[E]

But the living room. At what age do you have to take down the second TV in the living room?

[D]

I guess this is what I have a question of. Do you just have a living room or do you have, like, a family room or a secondary room? Because if you just have the one room, I don't think you ever. If it's like, an apartment or condom, I don't think you ever really have to take that down. If it's a house, then you just have to migrate the second TV to the auxiliary rooms, like a basement family.

[E]

Room, because I say they don't have auxiliary room in Brooklyn.

[A]

I always had three TVs in the. In the living room. But when you get a little more space, you have a basement. You can make the TVs rooms spread out.

[E]

For argument's sake, there's no second room.

[A]

You gotta have three TVs. You got to go to the third, and then you got to go to the fourth, and then the fifth, because you got to keep it even. Actually, you got to keep it odd.

[C]

I've been. So I'm not supposed to have a second TV in my living room, but I've been looking into getting a.

[E]

You could say you are supposed to.

[C]

For work, correct? Yeah, I've been looking.

[A]

We're, like, the only people who can actually justify, like, having a Chili's in our living room.

[C]

But have you seen, like, these wireless TVs that they have that, like, it's on, like, a stand that you can roll around?

[D]

You want one?

[C]

Do you have one?

[A]

Wait, so you're. Are you saying that you're gonna basically be, like, a substitute teacher? Yeah. With the tv.

[C]

Correct. And because my guest room doesn't have a TV in it right now, so I was gonna be like, oh, I got a TV for the guest room. So when people are over, just so I can roll it out when I, like, really need to watch a second game.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But then I can roll it back after the fact.

[E]

I got you, man.

[C]

That would be awesome.

[E]

Yeah, I bought. Bought it for, like, thinking, like, if I was gonna watch, like, a college football game on my balcony. Never. It's. It's. It's happened, like, twice, and the connection sucks.

[A]

And there's spiders.

[E]

And there's spiders.

[D]

Lots of spiders.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

How's the. How's the ice maker going?

[E]

Great.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Have you made ice recently?

[A]

Yeah, I did.

[D]

For.

[E]

I should have gave you.

[A]

I should have.

[E]

I should have cubed you up at the Air and Water show.

[D]

Well, you did tell me at the Air and Water show, you said, do guys want to have some ice? And then he went to the kitchen, then he came back. He said, okay, it'll be ready in eight hours. Hours.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I didn't. I was.

[E]

I would. I was uncubed, but that, that.

[D]

What if I come back to your apartment?

[E]

It came out as a good batch.

[D]

I said, what if I come back to your apartment after the MMA fights, ufc, and then you're like, no, that's actually too long. I won't have ice anymore.

[A]

We missed the window.

[D]

You have like a one hour window to get your cube out?

[E]

Yeah, no, I got some cubes again, Like, I don't drink at my house. Like, I don't make drinks or cocktails in my house. So that's where it's like maybe was a bad investment, but I. The cubes themselves, phenomenal.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[E]

Hey guys, I know you said Mr. Per pick every NFL game, but from an outsider's perspective, you guys take phenomenal care for him. But he's. He slash, he deserves to be with other turtles outside the office. And you should unadopt him. Thoughts?

[D]

I've thought about that.

[E]

Mr.

[A]

Pair's depressed. Yeah. So we have a little bit of a Mr. Pair problem. We. We. We added some desks. Hank's.

[D]

Hank took Mr. Paris seat.

[A]

Yeah. Mr. Hank's desked up. We have. We got a turtle that I think we need to rehoming and we need an awl to step up. Be the. Be. Be the parent that stepped up, the dad that stepped up and, and take Mr. Pair and then that way we can meet. You know, maybe you can send memes some like, you know, proof of life videos every now and then being like he's doing well. So if anyone in the Chicago area is looking for once gambling turtle, let.

[D]

Us know if you have a farm upstate.

[A]

I just realized my kids like Mr. Pair, so that's going to be a tough one.

[D]

He's all yours.

[E]

Do they want him?

[A]

No, no, no, no. God no. I don't want a pear or a turtle.

[D]

Why you watching five TVs?

[A]

Because I don't want. I have enough. I have to worry about in my life. I don't need a turtle.

[E]

It's a good, good experience for the kids.

[D]

Very easy to take care of.

[A]

Stop.

[D]

Stop this.

[A]

I will just tell them that Mr. Pair sucked at picking games, and we had to shoot him in the back of the head. It's an easy conversation.

[D]

Memes as the guy that really looked after Mr. Pair the most. Are you gonna miss him?

[A]

Oh, yeah, I would.

[D]

You should take him. No, My apartment's not big enough.

[A]

Not gonna miss him that much. Yeah. No. All right, so, yeah, please. You can own a. I'm not gonna. Like a D list turtle.

[D]

Yeah, that's being generous.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Name.

[C]

Name a more. More famous turtle.

[A]

Squirtle.

[C]

No, like, real life turtle.

[D]

Raphael. Leonardo. That's a good pool. Michelangelo.

[A]

The guy in galapagos.

[D]

Lonesome George. R.I.P. yeah, I mush. Oh, remember the day I was supposed to meet Lonesome George, the oldest living thing on planet Earth? He died.

[E]

Teddy Bridgewater Franklin.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You guys lonesome?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You guys just keep naming turtles that don't exist.

[A]

Donatello doesn't exist. What about Shredder Was not a turtle. Oh, my God. You.

[C]

I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it.

[D]

Yoshi.

[A]

Yoshi.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yoshi's a turtle.

[D]

Yoshi's his dinosaur.

[A]

Dinosaur.

[D]

But there are turtles and. And Mario.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

The.

[C]

The turtle shell. Yeah, the blue turtle shell sucks.

[D]

Great game.

[A]

No rocks.

[C]

It sucks. That's because probably you're playing from behind.

[A]

I thought you didn't play Mario Kart. I think Zelda.

[C]

No, I wrong. I said I didn't play Mario Kart. N64. And then it got better.

[E]

Diddy Kong.

[A]

Oh, Diddy Kong.

[C]

I played Mario Kart on Wii.

[A]

Oh, you guys playing Mario Kart with your friends?

[C]

We're down with N64.

[F]

Talk.

[A]

Okay, so we needed someone to please adopt Mr. Pair. Hit up memes.

[D]

Hit me up. And then Zach's gonna dress up as.

[A]

A turtle in the fallen and pick games. And also maybe pmtv. Zach and memes, you got to do like. Like adoption interviews. Make sure that the person is a good parent. Couple people. No, wait. Whoever wants. Is there like a.

[D]

Is there like, a turtle rescue place?

[E]

Yeah, they're not.

[C]

We looked into those.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, they aren't. How. How are they a turtle rescue place? They're not accepting turtles.

[C]

That's a reptile rescue. But the only reptile they do not accept as turtles because of the amount of inquiries that they get, it's not turtle.

[D]

A lot of these places either have.

[A]

Turtle policies, or since he's a Russian tortoise, he's considered an exotic and a Non native species. So a lot of policies preventing Mr.

[D]

Pair from going to shelters.

[A]

Wait, you guys looked into this? Yeah.

[E]

I don't think.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Memes.

[E]

We kind of made the decision before you even came in yesterday.

[D]

Zach.

[A]

What if you took Mr.

[D]

Pair with you next time you went to Florida? I can't have any pets at my apartment. I'm not sure.

[A]

I could try. I could try to travel with a Russian tortoise. So I just don't know if he would survive the. The heat.

[C]

I also feel like Florida is also not Russia.

[A]

He would die in the Everglades. Florida is not Russia. Good. Good point, Max. Zach goes to Russia. That be a good video just to drop off a turtle.

[D]

How about Operation Pair drop and we. We like fly a small drone over Russia and then drop him out in a little plastic turtle parachute?

[A]

So you could do it from the flight sim?

[D]

Oh, I could.

[A]

Good. Yeah.

[E]

I have two questions. Are you going to do another life episode? There's some of the best all time episodes. And have you thought about adding another Blake? Relegation may have to be in the cards after Brooks performance last few years. I mean, he's preparing for. He's out of the country.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

It's not a major championship.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. Scheduling issues.

[E]

Somewhat of a. You got to give him some slack there.

[D]

We can overlook Blake's tardiness in that he's. The time difference is huge too. Not only is he preparing for a tournament, but he's also like overseas every year. We got to figure out a way to make it even.

[A]

Yeah. We could just do it not last minute.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

Like we always do. That would be nice of us.

[D]

Blake Griffin, like, he's great at answering his phone.

[A]

Yeah. Life episode. We should do another one. Maybe we get Resilo and Titus here and we can do one maybe for. Maybe we throw one in. Yeah, like one of our breaks. That would be good. Okay, before we get to lottery Ball, Jack Pocket, it's time for this week's Lottery Ball segment presented by Jack Pocket, the app that lets you order a official lottery tickets right from your phone. Right now, powerball is over $800 million heading towards a billion and Jack Pockets running their biggest giveaway ever. Talk about convenience and good timing. The giveaway is called the Jackpocket winner verse and they're giving away 250k in lottery credits. That's 2,500 winners and a hundred dollars in lottery credits each. So just open the Jackpocket app, opt in under promotions and place your ticket order. You can enter daily until August 29th, so go now. Open that Jackpocket app, opt in under promotions and place your ticket order. And they're giving away $250,000 in lottery credits. That's a hundred dollars each in lottery credits, so there's going to be 2500 winners. Open that Jackpocket app, opt in under promotions and place your ticket order. You can enter daily until August 2020 9. Gambling problem. Call 1-800- gambler in New York. Call 877-8-HOPE NY or text hopeny. 18 or older, 19 or older in Nebraska, 21 or older in Arizona. Jackpocket is a lottery courier and not affiliated with any state. Lottery eligibility restrictions apply. No purchase necessary. Void where prohibited. Must be 18 or older. Age varies by state limit. Three entries per person per drawing. One prize per person. Must make entries during drawing. Specific entry periods. Ends August 29th at 10:00am Eastern Time. Official rules and free method of entry at jk. Sponsored by jackpocket llc. Lottery credits are non withdrawable and expire in one year. Number three Memes. Did you have any extra heat on you after picking three numbers and getting none of them? No, I did see that screenshot. Three. Three was up there. Oh, okay. What do you guys got?

[D]

I'll take 90.

[E]

22.

[D]

I forget.

[A]

I'll take 100.

[C]

I was thinking about that. I was looking at it the other day. I was like, we should. No one takes 100. I'll take 76.

[A]

26.

[F]

That was a hiccup.

[B]

Memes.

[A]

Do you think you're gonna get it this time? Maybe. Oh, Shane, get in real quick. Shane goes back to back. 17. 17 for Shane, 19. 19 for Jack. 18.

[C]

Split the difference on them.

[A]

18.

[D]

So close. Didn't get it.

[A]

Not really that close.

[D]

They didn't get it. Love you guys.

[A]

It sa.