Travis Pastrana, Preseason Football Thoughts, Tommy Fleetwood Chokes Again, Who's Back Of The Week + Mt Rushmore Of Things We Can't Wait To Do When We're Old

Summary

Pardon My Take – Episode Featuring Travis Pastrana, Preseason Football Insights, Tommy Fleetwood's Struggles, and More
Release Date: August 11, 2025

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Preseason Football Thoughts

The episode kicks off with a deep dive into preseason NFL action, focusing primarily on the Philadelphia Eagles and the New York Jets. The hosts analyze quarterback Justin Fields' performance, discussing his dual-threat capabilities and the Jets' prospects under new coaching strategies.

Big Cat remarks at [04:10]:
"Dak Prescott was out of pocket when he promised to meet in the NFC Championship game. That was a pretty crazy thing to say."

The conversation explores the dynamics of the Jets' offense, the potential impact of Justin Fields on the team's future, and the broader implications for the Eagles' season.

Baseball Update

A brief segment covers recent happenings in baseball, including Mariano Rivera's unfortunate Achilles injury during an old-timers game. The hosts express concern over Rivera's recovery and its impact on the Yankees' legacy.

Golf News: Tommy Fleetwood Chokes Again

The hosts shift focus to the golfing world, dissecting Tommy Fleetwood's disappointing performance over the weekend. They highlight Fleetwood's consistent struggles in clutch moments, labeling him a "bonafide choker."

PFT Commenter at [32:49]:
"Tommy Fleetwood seems like the nicest guy in the world, and he's just a choker. That's all he is."

They discuss the implications of Fleetwood's performance on his career earnings and reputation within the sport, balancing criticism with sympathy for his efforts.

Who's Back of The Week

In this lively segment, the hosts celebrate athletes making impactful returns to their respective sports.

• Hank highlights Joe Missoula's multi-year extension with the Celtics:
  "Signed a multi-year extension back with the Celtics. They should just give him a job for life." ([48:04])

• Producer mentions Johnny Damon's return, sharing a "shocking picture" that has garnered significant attention online.

• Zach spotlights Paul George's appearance at the club, adding humor with a photo of George sporting a knee brace:
  "Paul George is waiting in line at the club and if you zoom in, he's got the knee brace on." ([48:58])

Mount Rushmore of Things To Do When We're Old

The hosts engage in a humorous discussion about their top four aspirations for retirement, presenting their personal "Mount Rushmore" builds:

1. Playing Golf Every Day
   Hank:
   "I love how RBIs are coming back. RBIs are fun." ([44:56])

2. Traveling the World
   Big Cat:
   "Traveling is great. Checking off places on the bucket list. I love that." ([67:03])

3. Becoming a Regular at a Local Diner
   Zach:
   "Being a regular means the place knows your order by heart. That's awesome." ([69:33])

4. Never Setting an Alarm
   Hank:
   "Never setting an alarm sounds like peace and quiet, just waking up naturally." ([67:58])

The segment is filled with playful banter, reflecting on the joys and quirks of aging.

Interview with Travis Pastrana

A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to an exclusive interview with Travis Pastrana, a legend in extreme sports.

Introduction
The hosts welcome Pastrana, delving into his early beginnings in dirt biking and his family's influence on his career.

Grit and Resilience
At [89:50], Pastrana defines grit as:
"It doesn't matter how sick or hurt you are, you get it done."

He shares anecdotes about his first X Games medal at 15, overcoming severe injuries, and maintaining his passion despite setbacks.

Building Pastrana Land
Pastrana describes his 20-acre property, Pastrana Land, as a "redneck paradise" equipped with ramps, tracks, and the world's largest outdoor wind tunnel. He emphasizes the collaborative spirit of his community, which includes welders, ramp builders, and stunt coordinators.

Overcoming Injury
Pastrana recounts a harrowing base jump incident where he shattered his pelvis and back, underscoring his determination to return to stunts despite medical advice.

Future Projects and Philosophy
He discusses upcoming projects with Nitro Circus, including innovative stunts and the continuous evolution of action sports. Pastrana emphasizes the importance of community support and intelligent risk-taking.

Notable Quote at [117:38]:
"Every time I wake up, it feels like you're a baby, and then an old person is a baby. That's like, my kids never know what day of the week it is."

The interview highlights Pastrana's relentless pursuit of adrenaline-fueled goals and his ability to inspire others through resilience and passion.

Lottery Ball and Final Segments

In the concluding segments, the hosts engage in the "Lottery Ball" game, where they pick numbers based on personal and sports-related inspirations. This light-hearted interaction showcases their camaraderie and competitive spirit.

Big Cat humorously picks [53]:
"He’s seven with the Jets. All right, I’ll go seven."

They wrap up with shout-outs, final thoughts, and teasers for upcoming episodes, maintaining the show's signature blend of humor and sports commentary.

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Notable Quotes:

• Big Cat at [04:10]:
  "Dak Prescott was out of pocket when he promised to meet in the NFC Championship game. That was a pretty crazy thing to say."

• PFT Commenter at [32:49]:
  "Tommy Fleetwood seems like the nicest guy in the world, and he's just a choker. That's all he is."

• Travis Pastrana at [89:50]:
  "For me, grit means it doesn't matter how sick you are, how hurt you are... you get it done."

• Travis Pastrana at [117:38]:
  "Every time I wake up, it feels like you're a baby, and then an old person is a baby. That's like, my kids never know what day of the week it is."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the episode's key discussions, insights, and the engaging interview with Travis Pastrana, providing a detailed overview for listeners who may not have tuned in.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Travis Pastrana]

Folks, it's the foreplay guys.

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

A little interstitial from Big Dominic.

[Big Cat]

Just kidding. Everyone complaining about us doing interviews with the super bowl champs. We have an awesome interview with Travis Pastrana. Top four Mount Rushmore of coolest guys we've ever interviewed.

[Hank]

Toughest man to hear on Part of My take.

[Big Cat]

So awesome interview with him. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of things we're looking forward to doing when we're old, which should be very fun. We have a lot of ball to talk about. We got preseason games, we got some baseball, we got some golf. We got who's back of the week. And it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Get in the game. Best ball is live at DraftKings. 15 million is on the line with real stakes and real excitement. Best Ball is the biggest fantasy contest at DraftKings. We're talking a $15 million guaranteed prize pool with two millionaires being crowned for first and second place. Play season long fantasy football with the DraftKings way with best Ball, there's no waiver wires, no roster management. You get bigger rosters so injuries won't end your season. Just draft your team and you're set. If a shot at winning a share of $15 million isn't enough to get you excited, check this out. DraftKings is offering everyone a draft one get one special. Your $20 entry fee scores you a bonus ticket. Download the DraftKings app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for all customers who enter the NFL. Best ball fee 15 million millionaire contest to get a bonus ticket and get a shot at being crowned one of two millionaires only on DraftKings gambling problem.

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[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Part of my welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. Download the DraftKings app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for all customers who enter the NFL best ball 15 million millionaire contest to get a bonus ticket and get a shot at being crowned one of two millionaires only on DraftKings. Today is Monday, August 11th, and we are back in studio and we got ball to talk about. Boys. All kinds of ball.

[Hank]

A lot of ball. I was thinking about a segment that we could do for around the league.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Whipping around, going deep.

[Zach]

Something.

[Hank]

Something really creative like that.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[Hank]

Under center with part of my take.

[Zach]

Hike.

[Hank]

I like that. Hut, hut, hike.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You know those sound effects they use.

[Hank]

Did CD Lamb deserve to get run over? First question.

[Big Cat]

Big Cat, first and 10. CD Lamb did deserve to get run over.

[Hank]

Gotta have your head on a swivel.

[Big Cat]

Did Dak Prescott. Was Dak Prescott out of pocket, as the kids say? When he told Stan Kroenke, he'll meet you, he'll see you in the NFC Championship game.

[Hank]

A little bit out of pocket.

[Big Cat]

I would say that was a pretty crazy thing to say.

[Hank]

Yeah. When that gets out, though, he's not that mobile anymore, so not that much of a threat.

[Zach]

Third down.

[Hank]

Third down. Do the. Do the jets have a chance at the postseason?

[Big Cat]

Oh, I'm happy you bring this up. The Jets. Let's talk about the jets real quick. This is good. We're whipping around the league first and 10 with, pardon my take, our good friend Memes. He tweeted out this weekend. He's the guy talking about Justin Fields now. Memes. I didn't see the. I didn't watch the game. I saw some of the highlights. I have one question for you.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

For the. He's the guy. He led a touchdown drive, correct?

[Memes]

Yeah. The expectations were really low.

[Zach]

Hold on, hold on.

[Big Cat]

Let Me get my question. So explain to me the touchdown throw that he had.

[Memes]

He ran it in.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay. So, yeah, it was a nice run, though.

[Memes]

It was a great run.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[Memes]

He's so fast, right?

[Big Cat]

That's Justin Fields. He's a really good runner.

[Memes]

He had a couple throws that were good, too.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Memes]

It's preseason. He's just getting tuned up.

[Big Cat]

You're going to hurt yourself probably.

[Memes]

But I'll defend Justin Fields until the jets are mathematically eliminated.

[Zach]

Okay. Okay.

[Hank]

I think that you're. I also to be excited about Justin Fields, especially in the preseason. Like, that was. That was a great run.

[Big Cat]

Timeout. Timeout. We're going to need a timeout here. It's. We got to think about our fourth down before our fourth down play comes in. We got to think about this.

[Hank]

We're going to go for it.

[Big Cat]

What you just said is not true.

[Memes]

What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

You just said, I'm going to defend Justin Fields until the jets are mathematically eliminated. That is that. There are many circumstances where I could see that not being true. No, no. Yes.

[Jacob]

What if he gets benched?

[Big Cat]

Yes. If he sucks, you're going to kill him.

[Memes]

Yeah, but he's not. He's not going to suck. He's going to be good enough to win you some games.

[Big Cat]

Okay, listen, Justin Fields whole thing is fun to watch. It's fun to watch.

[Memes]

It is very fun to watch. And the offensive line was really good yesterday. He had tons of time. He looked.

[Zach]

He looked.

[Memes]

He looked good.

[Zach]

Okay. Okay.

[Big Cat]

You ready for fourth down?

[Hank]

I. I had one follow up to third down.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

I'm gonna throw a challenge flag on third down.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

Memes. Aaron Glenn still the guy? Because you also said that he's the guy and then you said that Justin Fields was the guy. So which one is the guy on your team?

[Memes]

Aaron Glenn's definitely the guy.

[Hank]

Okay, so Justin Fields is a guy.

[Zach]

He's.

[Memes]

He's a guy for now.

[Big Cat]

No, you could have two. You could have a coach. Who's the guy?

[Hank]

You could have two guys.

[Big Cat]

Well, yeah, you could have a coach. Yeah, I mean, that's. That works a lot of times. You definitely can. It's different position.

[Hank]

No, I think. I think your coach is the man.

[Jacob]

Hank, would you say that Tom Brady and Bill Belichick were both the guy when they were in New England?

[Producer]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's the. It's position dependent. You can't have two. The guys in one position playing the same position.

[Memes]

They don't play the same position.

[Big Cat]

I Know they don't. Who do you feel more confident in, Aaron Glenn or Justin Fields?

[Memes]

Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn was motherfucking people yesterday after offsides, penalty, push, out of bounds.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[Memes]

There was no accountability. There was no accountability before. And like, I. I relisted to the John Harbaugh one, and he came in. He was people. Same thing. You just gotta change culture.

[Hank]

What. What if Aaron Glenn says that Justin Fields isn't the guy?

[Memes]

Whatever. Whatever he says goes.

[Zach]

Okay, okay.

[Big Cat]

Memes. I have another question on third down, because this is. We're kind of in a similar situation, Coach, that we think is, like, culture changer. Do you think, Because I'm going through these thoughts with the Bears. The Bears last week had the most violent practice that that has happened at Hallis hall since Lovey Smith. They had a scrimmage against the Dolphins where the Dolphins were, like, getting beat up. Little, like, edge to them, teeth to their defense. But do you think because the culture was so bad, they're just playing regular football and it's so different than what it was that everyone's like, holy, that's my only concern? I don't know if you go through those same concerns with jets where it's like, Aaron Glenn is yelling at someone for being offsides. That's just what a coach should do. But because you and I have not had coaches who have done that, we're like, oh, my God, this guy's incredible. He's changing the whole culture, but he's actually just coaching. He's just doing his job.

[Memes]

Yeah. It is just new. New to the Jets.

[Zach]

Okay. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, I'm saying this. I'm speaking from the same spot where I'm just like. Part of me is like this. I'm so excited, but I have to temper my excitement because I'm like, maybe he's just doing what every coach, competent coach, should have been doing. Like, you go from Matt Eberfluss to Ben Johnson. That's a big difference. When you go, you know, Robert Saleh, Jeff Ulbricht to Aaron Glenn, that's a big difference.

[Memes]

Yeah, the judges needed some accountability, but it's also a preseason game one.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

But you can get excited about it.

[Big Cat]

Get excited.

[Hank]

That touchdown run was awesome.

[Memes]

It was against the packers starters.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Jordan Love didn't complete a pass.

[Hank]

There you go.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[Memes]

Packers also didn't look like they practiced.

[Hank]

Yeah, not the jets of that.

[Memes]

Not the Jets. Jermaine Johnson just got activated off the pup.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Memes]

Vibes are immaculate.

[Zach]

All right.

[Hank]

Take a cold, hard six pack of One question memes.

[Memes]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Will the jets make the playoffs right now?

[Hank]

Right now. If the season ended that.

[Big Cat]

Yes, that was right.

[Hank]

Right now on Sunday, August 10th.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

The new York jets would be a playoff team right now.

[Zach]

Yes, that was the. Yeah.

[Hank]

Okay. I like that.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

You want to keep it in the division or you want to go. You want to whip it around the league?

[Big Cat]

Oh, what, what for? For the cold hearts?

[Hank]

Yeah. Oh, no, for fourth down.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, fourth down. I was gonna. I had a fourth down in mind. Shador Sanders, the greatest quarterback of all time.

[Hank]

I think he's very good. I think. I think Shador looked really good.

[Big Cat]

He got a Nike ad.

[Zach]

Yeah, he got a Nike ad.

[Big Cat]

Only a matter of time. It was the first preseason game. There's just no way that this will backfire at all, right?

[Hank]

No way. Well, I mean, the. The Browns are set up to the point where they have. One of those guys has to play good, right?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, no. Definitely not.

[Hank]

You don't think one of them. One of them is going to look better than the others?

[Big Cat]

Yes. But that doesn't mean they. One of them could look better than the others in camp and they could not play well in. In.

[Zach]

That's what.

[Hank]

That's what I mean. In the preseason.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

One of those guys is going to end up looking great and be like, yeah, okay, we've got a bona fide starter right now. I think it's whoever starts those games. I think that, like, if they kick it over to Flacco for a start, he'll carve up a defense in preseason.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

If they have Dylan Gabriel, if he's healthy to start, he'll have a great game.

[Big Cat]

I, I'm. I want you to Sanders to be good because I think it would be great for the take ecosystem.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

He's a polarizing guy. We need to fill some of these spots that we have open. I just thought that the Nike ad. Only a matter of time for the first preseason game was maybe a little premature.

[Hank]

But this kind of like when the Browns have a polarizing quarterback like that, it makes it more fun.

[Big Cat]

Oh, definitely.

[Hank]

Johnny Manziel in the preseason.

[Zach]

Ye. That stuff.

[Hank]

This is good. And I, I think that Chador. There were some things that he did in that game where I was like, yeah, I think he could be a good quarterback for sure. Like going third option. It is preseason, but, yeah, being excited about a Browns game. That's exciting.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Very exciting.

[Zach]

All right.

[Big Cat]

That was our first and first and 10 with PMT.

[Hank]

There was a pass interference on fourth down. So we get a new set of downs.

[Zach]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

Zach, did you have first down?

[I]

First down. The Bucks play the Titans.

[Big Cat]

No, you have first down, first down.

[I]

The first down.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

What's going on, Hank? How are we. How are we feeling today? I was just. We might have ourselves a little bit of a Wally Pip situation. Hope your day's going well.

[Big Cat]

You really delivered that much.

[Producer]

I'm home for a funeral, Zach.

[I]

My condolences, Hank.

[Zach]

Oh, we.

[Big Cat]

We made him. We're like. He's like, I'm not saying that. And we're like, you actually have to say that. And then you delivered it with zero confidence.

[I]

Well, I just knew the circumstances.

[Hank]

No, but you look good, Zach. Don't. Don't understand that couch Wally pimp.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah, he does look good.

[I]

I won't move anything around, Hank. I promise. I'm not touching your stuff.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Producer]

All right.

[I]

Thank you for having me.

[Hank]

Zach's redecorating your room while you're going, Hank.

[Big Cat]

All right, new set of downs. What are you gonna say about the Bucks?

[I]

Oh, I think the Bucks are good, Cal. Dress look good?

[Travis Pastrana]

I know.

[I]

He's a bag of quarterback imbuga. Got a catch. Catch.

[Big Cat]

Look back. Guy's still not playing.

[I]

We just got to get the weight off him. A couple more weeks on a suit, something. I would love to see him play, though, soon, please.

[Hank]

He might just be in good shape, like, for a playoff push.

[I]

I just. I just love the idea of him next to Vita Veya. Just so much. Just so much mass right there.

[Big Cat]

It's also very funny because when he does get to the playing weight that the Bucks feel is good enough for him to play, he's still going to be very fat, big boy.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, not, like, just throw him out there, dude. Like, what does it matter?

[Hank]

This might be how you guys stop the tush push.

[I]

We do. Historically, we are pretty good against a tush push. Adding him is just a whole nother. Yeah, whole nother defensive. Whole lot of defense on him.

[Hank]

You hold a lot of tush. You guys have more tush than the Eagles.

[I]

More tush than they have push, you think?

[Hank]

Yeah, I think so.

[Big Cat]

Well, speaking of the tush push, Leonard Dickens, Landon Dickerson carted off.

[Hank]

So, yeah, he was carted off, Max.

[Jacob]

It was kind of carted off.

[Hank]

Kind of. It is important to make a distinction that when you cart somebody off, there's the back to the cart, and then there's a pass. The shotgun. Landon Dickerson was riding shotgun as he was carted off.

[Jacob]

He also was helped off of the field and then brought to the cart and then sat.

[Big Cat]

So the cart didn't come all the way come.

[Jacob]

The cart was not on the field.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Jacob]

The car was not on the field.

[Hank]

He got driven to the locker room. Riding shotgun.

[Jacob]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so he's going for a ride.

[Jacob]

It's probably fine, but there's. I mean, there's a lot.

[Big Cat]

Could he have driven the cart?

[Jacob]

I probably, man.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Did you watch the video of it?

[Jacob]

Yes. So there's a lot of good news, bad news going on.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Do you want to do bad news first?

[Jacob]

We already did.

[Big Cat]

The good news was that he was sitting passenger.

[Jacob]

That he was sitting passenger seat. And that he was sucks when you.

[Big Cat]

Pass over the field.

[Jacob]

He, like, almost was able to walk off. Off of the field.

[Zach]

He.

[Jacob]

He had, you know, Big Dom. He had his arms around Big Dom. Big Dom was helping him off, but he was putting, like a little bit of weight on it, you know. But the video shows that it looked. Didn't look like a ton of contact, which is always bad news. But I. I'm not. I saw what. What happened to memes last or a couple weeks ago. He got really upset off of something that there's not real good footage of. You don't really know what happened. I'm gonna wait to really react until I know what the injury is.

[Hank]

I like the memes get really upset about.

[Jacob]

He thought Justin Fields was dead.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Memes]

Always assume for the worst.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he stubbed his toe. I like this. This is maturity.

[Jacob]

There's no reason. There's no reason to freak out yet. There's.

[Zach]

Right.

[Jacob]

No, there's no reason to freak out.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

It could be anything.

[Big Cat]

If you were to freak out, what would it look like?

[Jacob]

I. I can't. I can't tell you because that. That would just be a fake freak out because there's no reason to freak out yet.

[Hank]

Okay, but what's the darkest thought that's going through your head?

[Jacob]

That. That he would. That he would be hurt. He's a big part of our offensive line. Our offensive line is a big part of our offense. It's a big part of our team.

[Zach]

We.

[Jacob]

It would have to be like a next. It would just have to be a next man up mentality. But he's a big man to lose.

[Hank]

You guys got to go next man.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The next man up is not as good as him.

[Hank]

More teams should do next man up.

[Jacob]

They should, and the Eagles normally do, but it's. You know, we already lost Becton, so then that. That's kind of the next man up. And if you lose both of our.

[Hank]

You lost Becton, but he's on the Chargers. And then the Chargers lost Becton. So now the Chargers have to go next man up.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's next man everywhere. Everywhere in the next man up kind of situation.

[Big Cat]

Preseason injury shouldn't count preseason. We should just turn.

[Jacob]

What if we just don't do it?

[Big Cat]

Well, he got injured. Not in a preseason game.

[Jacob]

Yeah, just don't do it.

[Big Cat]

Don't do practice. Don't do training camp.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like that might be more injuries.

[Jacob]

Yeah. You don't know that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think, I think that if you just like, hey, guys, come back and it's week one.

[Jacob]

Yeah. Like tell every. Get everyone to work out on their own, on their own accord.

[Big Cat]

Safely.

[Jacob]

Safely. And then once everyone get. Feels like they're in shape, we just start playing.

[Big Cat]

We start playing.

[Jacob]

The amount of people that are fighting about whether football is back or football is not back, we just wouldn't have that problem anymore.

[Travis Pastrana]

Football would just.

[Big Cat]

Would you have to wait for everyone to get in shape because then we might not have football because the Bucks fat guy.

[Jacob]

Well, Buck Bucks fat guy can't play. You're not in shape. You can't play. You have to walk during the games. They have to walk around the field with. With the fat suit on.

[Hank]

There's definitely the thought crossed Mike McDaniel's mind to do that exact thing.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It's like, let's just not do training. Let's just show up and be fast. Week one.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that would be.

[Hank]

You promised that you're going to behave yourself this summer.

[Big Cat]

They all have to come at your fastest.

[Jacob]

That would, you know, that would weed out a lot of bad, bad mentality players.

[Hank]

Do you really love football?

[Jacob]

Exactly.

[Hank]

Do you care enough about your teammates to stay in shape and stay out of trouble this summer?

[Big Cat]

How would you pick a team?

[Jacob]

How would you make cuts, vibes, you know, last year. Just go off of last year.

[Hank]

Last year. Or like just send us your. Your most hype. No new Instagram workout.

[Big Cat]

So you're just.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just going, no new friends.

[Hank]

Nah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no new friends.

[Jacob]

The guys that you draft that you, you believe are going to be good.

[Zach]

But yeah.

[Hank]

A sick edit of like a fifth string wide receiver doing some cone drills out on a field with like his high school quarterback.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You're like, okay, I think we got our number two.

[Big Cat]

He's in. He's in.

[Jacob]

Preseason injuries are.

[Big Cat]

I know they are. They are absolute.

[Jacob]

But I'm not overreacting to cell phone Videos.

[Hank]

Okay, fourth down, we're going to kick a field goal.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

Cam Little kicked a 70 yard field.

[Big Cat]

70 yarder.

[Hank]

Will we see a 70 yarder in the NFL this season?

[Big Cat]

We had two. We had Cam Little, 70 yarder, and then Ray Davis, running back for the bills, kick a 25 yarder.

[Hank]

Pretty cool.

[Big Cat]

That was pretty cool.

[Hank]

I love it when position players do that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but the Cam Little one was nuts. And it was, it was good from like 75.

[Hank]

It was pure.

[Big Cat]

And that was some thick. Zach is our, our expert on this. That's some thick air.

[I]

Jacksonville area very viscous there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Very hot, humid, heavy, heavy. A bit of meth smoke in the air, weighing the ball down. Certainly that. Not easy to kick in those conditions.

[Big Cat]

The opposite of mile high.

[I]

But it still went 70.

[Big Cat]

70.

[Hank]

It did.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And his teammates were so pumped for him.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That was the most excited I saw any players in the preseason. It's like our kicker just drilled a 70 yarder.

[Big Cat]

Very cool.

[Hank]

Yeah, he nailed it. I mean, he should. I don't know how, how the Jaguars are going to do on. On fourth downs this year. Like most coaches in the NFL, even if they know their kicker can hit a 70 yarder, they get to like the 50 yard line. They just think all the most negative thoughts are like, yeah, well, what if he misses? What if it gets blocked, it gets returned. But I mean, if, if you're drilling a 70 yarder, you should make a 60 yarder. Like it's almost a chip shot.

[Big Cat]

What if we Moneyballed this? What if you have a guy who can hit consistently 70 yarders? So what, what, what, what yard line.

[Hank]

Is that from that you would kick that from? You'd get the ball to the 47 yard line.

[Big Cat]

47 yard line. All right, so let's say your own 47. Yeah, yeah, let's say, let's just say for, for this thought experiment, let's say he can kick a 77 yarder consistently, just every time he hits it. So you get the ball to your own 40.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Do you think a team would be like, we don't need an offense. We will just draft all defense every year. We can run in a different defense, like series to series. All we got to do is get the ball to the 40 and we'll just kick.

[Hank]

Pretty much just hope the way that, that the return game's going to like just return the ball to the 35.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Or the 40, and then just kneel it out.

[Big Cat]

Jumbo set. Jumbo set. Run the ball, try to get 10.

[Hank]

Yards right up the middle, and then we'll kick. If you get three points per drive, I think you win most football.

[Big Cat]

I think we just broke football. And also, if you have a defense that is so good, you have two starting defenses that you can just rotate.

[Hank]

In, then you get field position. So when you get it, if you were to get, like, an interception.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

In your opponent's territory, do. Then kick a field goal in first down. Yeah, I think so, too.

[Zach]

Yeah. All right.

[Big Cat]

We just broke football. Hank, what'd you think about the Brady statue? Was it up to your liking?

[Producer]

Yeah, I mean, I wish it was, like, I don't know, 30ft bigger, but.

[Big Cat]

Did he like the lighthouse?

[Producer]

What'd you say?

[Zach]

Did he.

[Big Cat]

Did he light the lighthouse?

[Producer]

No, they had the McCourty twins do it.

[Hank]

Oh, but they just rang the bell. They didn't like the lighthouse.

[Producer]

Well, yeah, that's. That's the tradition.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Producer]

As we know.

[Hank]

But in terms of the statue, did you. I thought it was one of the better statues.

[Producer]

I think it's a good statue. I think it's fierce. I think I like, you know, his hands up, his face looks good. It's gonna, you know, in a good spot at the stadium where people walk in, so it'll be good. Good photo op. My. My only complaint, which I don't think is even realistic, is like, I. I just Wish it was 40ft tall.

[Hank]

Yeah, it was very lifelike. They nailed the mobility.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Hank, while we have you, let's do halftime. Halftime entertainment. Jordan of the week. Have you seen the recent Jordans? She has compared herself to Taylor Swift's publicist, Tree Pain, who is, like, well known as probably the best publicist.

[Hank]

That's my. It's my goat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, she is. She's my goat as well. She's the one who told the Swifties come after me. She basically was like, no one. Everyone was loving Belichick's new media makeover, and they didn't realize I was the one who was doing it until I. They found out who I was. Thoughts?

[Producer]

I did not see that. We love. We love Jordan on this podcast.

[Big Cat]

We love her.

[Zach]

We love her.

[Producer]

I would have to agree.

[Big Cat]

I also have no.

[Producer]

I would have no choice but to agree.

[Big Cat]

I have a question. Was that picture of Bill Belichick photoshopped in any way?

[Producer]

I mean, there's no way you're coming at a guy for having man tits, right?

[Big Cat]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't. I asked the question. Why did you jump to that? You don't even know picture. I'M talking about.

[Producer]

I do know a picture you're talking about.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I don't. Explain the picture. Picture. And yes, man, breasts happen. Okay? Some. Some of the Tony Soprano say what.

[Producer]

You say all the time. Oh, bad angle.

[Travis Pastrana]

Blah, blah, blah.

[Big Cat]

Well, I'm just asking a question. Was that Photoshop? I'm actually on your side here, Hank. I. I saw it and was like, there's no way that's real, is there? No way that that's real.

[Hank]

It's. I think it was the shirt. It was kind of a heather gray, so it really outlined the shadows.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

It did look like he's wearing a.

[Big Cat]

Bra because they had me barking.

[Hank]

He's barrel chest.

[Zach]

Beast.

[Big Cat]

Barrel chest. That's. That's a strong man. That's something that we used to look up to in society. He's gone away from that.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Did you guys see the picture? Max, do you want to. You see? Everyone saw the picture barking. You seen it. Oh, Zach, give us your instant reaction. Zach, seeing you for the first time right now, Bill Belichick, he's got some heavies. He's got some heavies. And again, I'm not judging, Hank, because I do also have heavies, so I would be crazy for me to judge someone else's heavies.

[Hank]

They were.

[Big Cat]

I just asked if it was real or not.

[Hank]

If I'm making a guess, I'm. I'm leaning towards C cups here.

[Zach]

I was gonna get him.

[Producer]

We just gotta get him some Spanx.

[Big Cat]

I'd grab.

[Producer]

That always works.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, some Spanx would be good.

[Hank]

This is probably.

[Big Cat]

Actually, I bought some new Spanx, by the way. I saw Put me on. I saw. I saw. I'll let you know when they come there.

[Zach]

The.

[Big Cat]

The advertising got me so perfectly. It was, like, so hideous. The dude that they use as their model, I was like, they must work. He looked like a. He looked like a Lego piece. He was just a box. It's just a box of a man. Those are. Yeah, you're right, Hank. Those are. That's the angle. That's. Or pft. That's the angle.

[Hank]

It's the. Is the. The shade of gray in the T shirt. It could also be Jordan being Jordan.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

This is how she earns her money doing pr. It's like, oh, everyone's talking about the negatives with Bill Belichick right now. He's got this young beauty queen girlfriend who's really, really attractive and very smart, and we don't want to be drawing the attention away from Bill. Bill, let's Cindy out there with a couple of softballs. 16 inch softballs inside a sports bra. Then people will start the conversation of like, is Bill Belichick hot?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Like, would you. Bill Belichick?

[Zach]

I would.

[Big Cat]

Those heavies.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Max.

[Hank]

I think he just became twice as.

[Big Cat]

Max as a guy who doesn't like titty.

[Jacob]

I mean, those are. Those are beasts.

[Hank]

Those who get the job done when I also.

[Jacob]

I also have man titties, though, so it's fine.

[Big Cat]

Right? So we're. We. We can speak from a place of.

[Zach]

Of love.

[Jacob]

It's also the way his arms are. Like, you can't do that.

[Big Cat]

What I've been noticing is that my move has been arm on the table. Like, if you get. If you can get a tape, like a chair or arm on the table, and you kind of like, put your arm almost in front of you.

[Hank]

You're talking about the sorority skinny.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no, no. Because that's on the side of the hip. Talking about literally, like. Because when you have your arm in front of you like that, it almost flattens your chest a little.

[Hank]

It's this. It's the same arm. Belichick should do one of those dance videos with the UNC football.

[Big Cat]

No, because the sorority girl arm is on your hip and it pops the tits. I'm talking about forward, so it almost like caves in the.

[Hank]

I'm talking about mostly just the arm. Yeah, the skinny arm.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But they also. The skinny arm also acts as a pop for the tits. Yeah, but I'm trying to go the other way.

[Hank]

They know what they're doing.

[Zach]

Yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

That was halftime entertainment. I want to talk some.

[Hank]

I got more Patriots for Hank.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

Mike Vrabel, the dude I think the Patriots are backing.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he was in the. That happened when we were.

[Hank]

He got. He got in a. In a brawl at training camp. Dove into the pile and, like, cut his face up pretty good. And then first play from scrimmage, Travion Henderson. I think he's a great running back.

[Zach]

Hank.

[Hank]

I think he got a good one.

[Producer]

I think we're going to be the best team on this podcast. I don't know if I've said that yet.

[Big Cat]

No. That's a heavy thing to say. Heavier than Bill Belichick's chest. Yeah, that's okay. So that's the two teams that were in the NFC championship last year. I. I'll give you the Bears and Jets. That's not really a bold statement. The Bucks are pretty fucking good. So you're saying you're going to be Better than the Bucks, the Eagles, and the Commanders.

[Zach]

Wow. Yeah, I know.

[Big Cat]

That's. Again, that's not.

[Hank]

That's not going crazy because I was watching this game. Hank, you know what I thought? What super bowl preview.

[Zach]

That would be.

[Hank]

People forget that Hank owes me $30,000 if the Patriots don't make the super bowl this year. Next.

[Producer]

But I like our chances now.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You want to double it?

[Zach]

No.

[Travis Pastrana]

No, I don't.

[Producer]

I'm gonna obft my life a couple years.

[Big Cat]

We're just gonna have to. We're just gon drive forever.

[Hank]

You know what's crazy, though, is you guys can't beat the NFC east in the Super Bowl. We beat the Eagles as a long time ago.

[Producer]

Okay, but we.

[Hank]

Long time ago.

[Producer]

Mike Vrabel. Mike Brebel has beaten the NFC east in the Super Bowl.

[Hank]

Okay, that's. That's a fair point, but that was a long time ago, point for point. That was a long time ago, point for point.

[Big Cat]

Do we have any other football that we want to talk about? I have a couple takes that I wanted to throw out there that just be like, hey, I'm not. I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, but I got to take.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

And they're one's football, one's baseball, two baseball, actually. You ready for him? All right, so this is just. All due respect, Doing an all due respect segment. All Due respect, Virginia McCaskey passed away. All due respect, the patch is too big. Did you guys see the patch?

[Hank]

I did not see that.

[Zach]

No.

[Big Cat]

Pull up the patch now. I know what they're doing. They're doing the same patch that they did for her father, George House, when he died. So it's the same size.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The problem is those uniforms. Back then, 30 years ago, the pads were bigger. The uniforms are bigger. The patch didn't take up as much real estate. This patch is too big, and I. It's a fine patch. It's too big. It's got to be, like, 50% as big.

[Hank]

It's pretty.

[Big Cat]

Look how big that is.

[Hank]

Yeah. The M is huge.

[Big Cat]

Don't you guys agree? All due respect, I'll do respect. Too big of a patch.

[Hank]

Why not a helmet sticker?

[Big Cat]

Because they wanted to do the same thing as the George House.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Which I get. But all due respect, let's just. Let's do the thing where, you know, someone's like, every. Like every retweet I get, I make this 10% bigger. Let's just every game, make it 10% smaller. And no one will notice.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's. It's giant.

[Big Cat]

It.

[Hank]

It draws the eyes.

[Big Cat]

It's too big. It's way too big. Because uniforms are just a lot tighter than they were 40 years ago.

[Zach]

So.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, we got it. We got to do something about this patch. The patch is, all due respect. It's the M. To all due respect, guys, the patch is so, so big and so kind of like in your face that I wish she was still alive. All due respect. Because then we wouldn't have the patch.

[Zach]

Right? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's good math. All right, here's my other. All due respect. All due respect. Shout out to woman up.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

To respect.

[Hank]

All due respect. Was her name Powell?

[Big Cat]

She's an ump.

[Hank]

She did okay, right?

[Zach]

That.

[Hank]

For the first strike was.

[Big Cat]

First strike was very funny.

[Zach]

You gotta.

[Big Cat]

But she also. This is one of those things that Jen Powell. This is one of those things that like all the umps suck.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

She kind of was like, hey, I'm just part of the club now.

[Hank]

Better than Angel Hernandez.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

At least.

[Zach]

Right.

[Big Cat]

But it was very funny. She wanted the first pitch to be a strike so bad that no matter where it was going to be, she was calling a strike.

[Hank]

So it's kind of shocking that it took this long.

[Zach]

Right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because there have been, you know, NFL refs, NBA refs.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if hockey.

[Hank]

But it's kind of also mean to. To like celebrate this. I. I understand why. Because it's, you know, obviously something that's never happened before. But also we're celebrating somebody that's being put in a position to get all the hate in the world.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

We're gonna hate your guts, Jen.

[Hank]

No matter what gender you are. We're gonna hate you. And if you're a female umpire, you're going to deal with the same that the Hernandez's and the Wests of the world got.

[Big Cat]

Right. That's why I loved her first strike call.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Because it was bad and it was like that.

[Zach]

All right.

[Big Cat]

She's perfect.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

She passed the test.

[Hank]

That hat is in the hall of Fame now.

[Zach]

Is it?

[Hank]

It is.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, damn. And then the other, all due respect, was the kid ump. I'm just the. If people have not seen it, the Cubs Cardinal series this weekend, there's been a kid ump in, I don't know, the second or third row and he wants to be. He's a kid. I'm not going to go against a kid. I'm going to go against his parents because the kid wants to be an ump. He's 13 years old. He's been doing balls and strikes, home run calls, everything during the game. I don't like these parents.

[Hank]

So the kids obviously very passionate about umpiring.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Which is an interesting thing to be into. Whatever. I'm not going to judge your. Your interests as a kid. I blame mostly just the TV producers for putting them on too much. This. This should be a once a game look in.

[Big Cat]

It should also have been one game.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Friday night he was there and I was like, okay, all right. One time.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then it just kept on happening. I was like, kid, I'm still there. This is too much.

[Hank]

Right. Like if they just cut to him after a home run and he made the home run motion and then they never cut back to him again, everybody be like, this kid is awesome. That was so funny.

[Big Cat]

It also made me think, so I guess there is some positive to come from kid ump. Why doesn't the Little League World Series have kid umps? Because that would be so funny.

[Hank]

Because they get the best of the best.

[Big Cat]

They do get the best of the best. I know that for a fact. But how funny would that be? Yeah, it was just kids humping kids.

[Hank]

And then they're yelling at the kids.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then the coaches come out and kick dirt on the kids shoes.

[Big Cat]

Kids should be allowed yell at the kids.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like the ump should be able to yell and kick kids out and kids should be able to yell at the umps. I think the Little League World Series should have kid umps.

[Hank]

Kid managers, too.

[Big Cat]

Kid managers rock.

[Hank]

Kid announcers.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Why not have it just be kids? Every good. Okay, where do we want to go to next? We want to go to the golf.

[Zach]

Hank.

[Big Cat]

Hank's in on mute.

[Zach]

You want to go to go? Yeah.

[Producer]

We can watch.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you didn't see.

[Producer]

I was at a wake. No, I did not watch.

[Big Cat]

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I did not.

[Zach]

I.

[Big Cat]

There was multiple playoff holes, so I thought maybe you'd seen one of the playoff holes. Tommy Fleetwood is. I think I love him now because it's rare that we have like just a good old bonafide, old fashioned bonafide choker. And that's all he is.

[Hank]

And he choked by going 69 Saturday. 69 Sunday.

[Big Cat]

And. But that putt on 17. But like, think about it. We obviously in sports media will. Will say someone's a choker. Even you know, Connor McDavid is a choker. He plays a team sport. Tommy Fleetwood seems like the nicest guy in the world. And he's just a joker. That's just all he is.

[Hank]

He can't win the normal one.

[Big Cat]

He can't win a one.

[Hank]

He can't win a one. And I think it's better that. That Scheffler didn't chase him down and beat him because everyone thought that's what was going to happen over the course of the weekend. So I think it's, it's, it's less sad for him that he didn't get. Just came back on by the best player in the world.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I saw someone had. It was. I wish I had saved the tweet, but someone was like, Scotty Scheffler stalking Tommy Fleetwood is. Is like one of those fucked up National Geographic shows where. Yeah, the lion goes after, like, the hurt antelope.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You just know how it's going to end.

[Hank]

Well, it was like. Yeah, it was the, the lions going after the injured little Cape buffalo.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then all the other buffalo came around to protect its child from the lions. They fought off the lions and then the baby still died of its injuries.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then one of the buffaloes survived.

[Big Cat]

Do you think it's worse so that. I guess it's probably better that it's. Justin Rose is like one of his best friends.

[Hank]

No, I think it's probably worse.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Give us the. Give us the. Try my hardest.

[Hank]

I just tried me hardest.

[Big Cat]

Try.

[Hank]

Try me hardest. It's a very, very difficult hole.

[Big Cat]

Classy move by Tommy Fleetwood to, to do the media. Rory could learn something from him.

[Hank]

He definitely.

[Big Cat]

He did like during the playoff hole, which was gut wrenching. And yeah, I, I like, partly feel bad for him and partly just love the fact that we have just a choke guy.

[Hank]

Let's see, what, what were his earnings this year?

[Zach]

It's insane.

[Big Cat]

That's. So when I said poor Tommy Fleetwood, people were like, why would I feel bad for him? He makes millions. Like, you can still have some, some compassion because he's a nice guy.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And like he is trying his hardest and it's, it's clearly consuming him because that putt on 17 was as choke as choke could putt could get.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Hank]

So his earnings this year, this is according to AI, so who knows if it's true or not. It says that he's earned 6.4 million in 16 tournaments this year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's pretty.

[Hank]

So it's pretty good. Golf is just such a funny sport because you can play objectively. He plays very. He's a great golfer. Yeah, he's an amazing golfer. One of the best in the world. And just by not winning, you can still be making a load of money.

[Big Cat]

And the worst part is he's probably going to kick our teeth in it. The Rider Cup.

[Hank]

That would.

[Big Cat]

Because team. He does do well in the Rider cup when it's. When it's the team setup.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Doesn't have to be, you know, lone guy just trying me hard.

[Hank]

Just. I just tried me hardest out there. It's very, very tough. PE location today. I mix it up, it goes. It goes to Australia real quick. I just tried me hardest. So here in 34, I. I got him at 34.9 million. And last year was his second best year. He got 28.9.

[Big Cat]

Wait, he made 28.9 last year?

[Hank]

Last year, and then this year, 34.9.

[Big Cat]

That's what he made this year. Tommy Fleetwood, 34.

[Travis Pastrana]

You just said six.

[Big Cat]

You just said six. Is that his career?

[Hank]

I'm sorry. Cumulative. Yeah, I was gonna say.

[Big Cat]

Holy. I was like, I do not feel bad for him if he made 28.

[Hank]

No, that's his cumulative earnings. Actually, his best year was 2023, where he made 12 mil.

[Big Cat]

It's actually impressive.

[Zach]

He. He.

[Big Cat]

I guess if we're gonna spin zone for Tommy Fleetwood, he's going to be the richest golfer to never win anything.

[Hank]

That's a great title to have, right?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Producer]

Yeah, but he's one. He's one. He's one of the DP Tour.

[Big Cat]

Well, that doesn't count.

[Producer]

He's won the Rider Cup.

[Zach]

Okay, that.

[Big Cat]

That's a team. He's not one on the PGA Tour.

[Producer]

No.

[Big Cat]

What is the DPs Tour even stand for? Double penetration is the European.

[Producer]

He's European.

[Big Cat]

But what does it stand for?

[Hank]

Dude, Perfect.

[Producer]

European.

[Big Cat]

Dan Patrick, what do we think the DP World Tour stands for?

[Producer]

It's.

[Big Cat]

What does it say? It's got to stand for something.

[Producer]

Does it not used to be the European Tour. Now it's the DP Tour.

[Big Cat]

Oh, is it just the. The sponsor? I mean, I need an answer for this for sponsorship. All right. Currently titled as a DP World Tour for sponsorship reasons. So what the fuck is dp?

[I]

I see Dubai Ports. Possibly Dubai Port by Ports.

[Big Cat]

That is a double penetration.

[I]

That's a different tour.

[Producer]

Display pictures. Nope.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

DP Tour.

[Big Cat]

What is the DP&DP Tour World Tour stand for? Do you think? They doesn't stand for anything.

[Jacob]

I think this is the. This is a company. DP World.

[Zach]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

Here it is.

[Hank]

Oh, there we go.

[Big Cat]

So. So it's the D. Okay. So it's DP World Tour. Tour is the only thing that the. The Europe is putting into this equipment.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You would think that it's world tour as part of it, but it's right. It's DP World.

[Big Cat]

DP World, the multinational logistics. We go back to that logistics company based in Dubai. Does anyone understand logistics?

[Hank]

I think logistics is solutions, logical.

[Big Cat]

Don't mess with my dots. Is that the. Was that Nextel?

[Hank]

I think it's. It's innovative solutions for fast paced world.

[Zach]

Okay. All right.

[Big Cat]

So they move boats around and probably logistics services.

[Hank]

Oh, it's logistics services. Not just logistics services. Port services, marine services, free zones.

[Big Cat]

All right. Do we want to talk a little baseball?

[Hank]

Let's talk some seam.

[Big Cat]

We should start with Mariano Rivera tearing his Achilles. The old Timers day game, which is so brutal.

[Hank]

It's. That's a bad sign for the Yankees.

[Big Cat]

Bad sign.

[Hank]

Very bad sign for the Yankees. And maybe not the biggest Yankees news to come out of this weekend.

[Zach]

No.

[Hank]

Are we going to talk about Aaron Boone getting ejected again?

[Big Cat]

Oh, no, no.

[Hank]

Are we talking about the. The widest news.

[Big Cat]

The widest news of the weekend. Johnny Damon. Which.

[Zach]

It is.

[Big Cat]

Max, I don't know what to say.

[Hank]

It is a shocking picture.

[Big Cat]

Shocking, shocking picture of Johnny Damon.

[Hank]

The pinstripes do nothing.

[Big Cat]

I don't understand.

[Jacob]

He's got to keep the beard. You can't shave the beard.

[Hank]

That's the Yankee rule, though.

[Jacob]

Not anymore.

[Hank]

I know, but that's when he joined the Yankees. He famously had to do that. Trim everything up. But now that they've relaxed, that Johnny needs to know that.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Max, how many, how many? How many does your phone just blow up?

[Jacob]

I've ne. I have never had more mentions for anything ever in my life. Like the super bowl was a fraction of the amount of mentions that I had when John. This Johnny Damon picture came up. It was never ending. It was 10 full hours yesterday of like I had Twitter up on my phone and it was just constantly refreshing of just people tagging me in it thinking that I hadn't seen it.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then obviously when you face swap it, you didn't memes didn't even need.

[Zach]

But it.

[Big Cat]

The face one was great because it is. It's just you. You're. You're a Yankee. You're a Yankee today. Yankee.

[Jacob]

I think it looks good, to be honest.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Do you think he wakes up and thinks he looks good? Probably, yeah. So good. It really. It's just.

[Hank]

You really, all you did was just add eyebrows.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Like your eyebrows to It. And now it's Max put this in the YouTube. Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

It was so fun.

[Hank]

It is the best baseball picture of the year. Picture of the year.

[Big Cat]

The best part was Max. I saw it because. Shout out Hubs. Our co worker who's a big Yankees guy, the guy who took the picture, Chris Kirschner, who I think is the Yankees beat reporter, literally texted hubs and was like, I just took this picture and it looks exactly like Max.

[Jacob]

That's funny. I mean, yeah, it's. It's a. It's a. It's a shocking picture.

[Big Cat]

So funny.

[Jacob]

When I first looked at. I mean, I think everyone had the same thought. When I first looked at it, I thought it was just a face swap. Like, I thought that's. I thought.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Had just done that. I was like, okay, here's another one. Then I looked at it closely. I was like, holy shit, this isn't me.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man.

[Hank]

Has Johnny addressed the picture yet?

[Big Cat]

I don't think so. I don't think Johnny has social media, does he?

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

A guy like Johnny, definitely.

[Big Cat]

He said what was. Was. He was. He had a DUI arrest video.

[Zach]

Right.

[Hank]

He's a big time DUI guy.

[Big Cat]

Just hanging out.

[Hank]

He has not addressed it on social media.

[Zach]

His.

[Hank]

His picture on social. On Twitter X the everything app this does. It's happening. It's a different guy. That's a different guy in that picture as opposed to this one.

[Zach]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Big Cat]

It's so funny.

[Hank]

He's got eight kids.

[Big Cat]

And by the way, the Yankees are as.

[Zach]

As.

[Big Cat]

The Yankees and Mets are basically racing to the bottom right now. They Both are. Since June 13, the Mets are 18 and 31 in. The Yankees are 20 and 31. Pretty bad. Pretty bad times for baseball in New York. And the brewers never lose.

[Zach]

Bruce.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's a. That's. That picture's from 20 years ago.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That'S very funny.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The brewers literally never lose. And they got guys pulling Charizard cards now, too.

[Hank]

It's crazy. Yeah, I saw that. It would explain the Charizard card to me. Zach, how valuable is that card?

[I]

If it's a first generation? Very valuable. Hundred, like, hundred thousands of dollars.

[Hank]

And Bismizareski, he's the one that drew it.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

The rookie pitcher.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

What are the odds of you getting that card in a pack?

[I]

It's incredibly slim. Not only just because there's not the. The packs are made so long ago. Also, like, guys are. Guys are resealing packs and selling them. So, like, yeah, you got to just hope you got a. An okay pack to begin with.

[Big Cat]

I went, I, I inquired about buying a pack because our good friend Nick Tyranny really wants a Charizard. So I was like, oh, that'd be funny if I got it before him. A pack of 10 cards or no, maybe eight cards. Eight in a pack?

[I]

I believe so.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Eight cards. PFT. How much do you think a pack of eight cards is? And this is obviously no guarantee that you're getting the Charizard.

[Hank]

I. I don't know how much the other non Charizard cards are worth. Like what's a.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no. Like to purchase.

[Hank]

No, I know. So I'm trying to. I'm trying to estimate how much that pack would be like if I just pull a random. Like a mid Pokemon.

[Zach]

Zach.

[Hank]

What. What's like all the other cards that were in his pack. What are those?

[Big Cat]

But that doesn't matter. It's people just going for the Charizard.

[I]

I mean some cards can just be worth like pennies on dollar.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Okay, so I, I'll guess like four grand.

[Big Cat]

$8,000. $8,000 a card. And they could all mean nothing.

[Hank]

That's crazy.

[Big Cat]

I was like, I can't. This is crazy.

[Hank]

Is that the best card?

[Big Cat]

That is the best card.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That's the Charizard. Not Chase? Not the Pikachu?

[Zach]

No. Why not?

[Hank]

Isn't Pikachu the good guy?

[I]

Pikachu is a great right hand man, but Charizard is the Chase.

[Hank]

What about Charmander?

[I]

Charmander De evolution of Charizard.

[Hank]

This is the baby Charizard.

[I]

He's in the family lineage.

[Zach]

Okay. Kind of.

[Hank]

Would that be a Charizard? Rookie card? Would be a Charmander.

[I]

It would be. It'd be like adolescent Charizard, like just earlier in life.

[Hank]

Like less so. Rookie season top prospect card.

[I]

Because first generation would be his like rookie unveiling. Like there's other Charizards among the seasons.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

Do they have first edition? It would be the Rookie.

[Big Cat]

Pretty much. I'm seeing one right now for $140,000.

[Hank]

Do they have autographed Charizard cards?

[I]

That I don't believe. So.

[Big Cat]

I don't think Charizard autographed.

[I]

No.

[Big Cat]

He was notorious for that.

[Hank]

He said you should be asking teachers and firemen for autographs, not dinosaurs.

[I]

He knows his worth. He's like, I'm.

[Big Cat]

I'm not doing this.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Also, just shout out Paul Skeens because he's insane. He has 194er. It's crazy. 7 and 8.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

It's up.

[Hank]

Yeah. I love the people that are pointing. I like that win loss is, is starting to come back a little bit.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

People would be like, dude, this guy, he's only got seven wins and you think he's the best pitcher in baseball.

[Big Cat]

I mean.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I kind of. I kind of like that. I kind of like how RBIs are coming back.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Too. RBIs are fun.

[Zach]

They are.

[Big Cat]

It obviously means a lot about who's around you in the lineup, but it's still fun.

[Hank]

You're. You're never going to get the RBI off the main line. When somebody talks about a batter. Stats that's there for life. I don't care how meaningless you prove it to be. If you're talking about OPS X slash.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That's never, that's never coming on that graphic at the bottom of the screen when it guys up to bat.

[Zach]

Agreed.

[Big Cat]

Agreed.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Should we do who's back of the week? Those are some good ball talk. Great ball everywhere. Who's back of the week? Let's do who's back of the week it is brought to you by our friends at game time. Game time. Let's look up a Cubs game this weekend. Cubs versus Pirates. There's nothing like getting to a baseball game, especially last minute. Lucky for me. I always use game Time. The official ticketing partner barstool sports. Game time makes getting tickets faster and easier. Price on the app actually go down the closer it gets to showtime. We're looking for Cubs Pirates this weekend. It's going to be beautiful air and water show.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Great weekend. I think we're under attack on Tuesday and you live in Chicago. Zach, I'm excited to hear your. Your recap of that. The Aaron Water show is happening this weekend.

[I]

So we've got all sorts of planes and things coming through.

[Hank]

I'm, I'm calling it Angels.

[Zach]

Oh, okay.

[Hank]

The Blue Angels are gonna be here.

[Big Cat]

I think so.

[Hank]

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[Zach]

Yeah. Okay.

[I]

So we're not going to war. It's just Aaron Water Show.

[Hank]

It's just some super correct.

[Big Cat]

That's good to know. All right, what do we got for prices?

[Hank]

Let's see. On Saturday, August 16th, Pirates at Cubs. I'm looking at $112 for like kind of behind home plate.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Jacob]

Seeing 75.

[Zach]

Yeah, but 75 get in.

[Hank]

I'm seeing, I'm seeing some good seats that are right around $100 to get some very good seats.

[Big Cat]

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[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

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[Producer]

My who's Back the week was going to be Johnny Damon, but also Joe Missoula is back.

[Hank]

Oh, what'd he do?

[Producer]

Signed a multi year extension back with the Celtics. They should just give him a job for life. But he's at least back the next few years.

[Big Cat]

Do we know how many years?

[Producer]

Multi years.

[Big Cat]

Multi.

[Hank]

So through the rebuild.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

That was smart to actually do that being like because you know it's not going to be good next year.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Producer]

The tweet from the Celtics just had a multi year extension.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Multi.

[Hank]

Good for him.

[Big Cat]

That's a lot of years or could be only a few years. Could be.

[Hank]

But it's more than one year.

[Big Cat]

Hopefully it's a lot of years for him.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah, hopefully it's forever.

[Big Cat]

Okay, good. Who's back?

[Zach]

Hank?

[Big Cat]

Did you, did you guys see Paul George at the club?

[Hank]

I did not see Paul George at the club.

[Big Cat]

Did you guys memes you saw Paul George's club? Can you pull it up? You saw it, Hank? I did Paul George's club.

[Hank]

I saw him at the bank.

[Zach]

He looked good.

[Big Cat]

Well, he looked okay. Paul George was at the club.

[Jacob]

There's a good fit.

[Big Cat]

Paul George is waiting in line at the club and if you zoom in, he's got the knee brace on.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's being responsible.

[Hank]

Stick.

[Big Cat]

Sir.

[Zach]

That.

[Jacob]

That's being responsible. If he, if he's supposed to be wearing.

[Big Cat]

That's a funny look.

[Jacob]

It would be worse. It would be worse if he was at the club without the knee brace. If he needs to be wearing the knee br. Fact or fiction?

[Big Cat]

You gotta admit, it's a funny picture.

[Hank]

I'm so glad I saw this picture.

[Jacob]

And it's a great fit. Look at that fit. Fire ash fit. You couldn't pull that fit off.

[Big Cat]

No, I couldn't.

[Hank]

Oh, I could greatly. I woke up like this.

[Jacob]

You could probably pull it off.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's Paul George.

[Hank]

I mean, if he's wearing the knee brace, he doesn't give a. He's just like, yeah, people are going to say whatever, I'm injured.

[Zach]

What do you want me to do? He.

[Hank]

Listen, I'd rather him wear that to the club than him not wear it to the club and walk out with an acl.

[Big Cat]

But you could. There's a difference. And there's another path here.

[Hank]

Pants.

[Big Cat]

That's fair.

[Hank]

I thought you were going to say not going to the club.

[Big Cat]

Oh, pants. It was probably really easy. Pants are super easy.

[Hank]

You know what he's trying to do? Like let's just normalize all athletes wearing double knee braces to the club all the time. Like offensive linemen.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'd like to see maybe some shooting sleeves at the club.

[Hank]

Yeah. Just in case somebody falls into. You get rolled up on at the club, you're not going to hurt anything.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Pfd your who's back of the week.

[Hank]

I got two who's backs. First is mgk. Oh, MGK dropped an album on Friday. It's good. I, I hate how much I like MGK's music.

[Big Cat]

He is, he is. He does have some good songs.

[Hank]

I really dislike how much I respect MGK as an artist.

[Jacob]

I got into a fight with the, with the youngins here recently because I said that MGK's got bangers. And they, they just said I, I was.

[Hank]

No, he. He objectively has bangers.

[Jacob]

Yeah, I agree.

[Hank]

He's got good songs. What's that face?

[Zach]

Hank?

[Hank]

What's up with that?

[Jacob]

Yeah, no, yeah, Hank's probably one of the, the haters. We couldn't, we could get roasted.

[Producer]

His halftime performance at the Cavs game.

[Hank]

That's. That's pre evolution of mgk.

[Big Cat]

That's not the current mg, mgk.

[Hank]

He was in the Crystal.

[Producer]

Eminem killed mgk and then he had to come back. Yeah, he's also like.

[Jacob]

He just switched genres and he's better at the other genre.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Producer]

Yeah. He's not a fan.

[Hank]

He's a. A pretty good pop punk musician and songwriter. Like, actually very good.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So I. I've been listening to his album all weekend, and every time I. I like embarrass, I'm embarrassed by it, and I need to get over that. Oh, I'll be rolling up to a stop sign and I'm blasting the out of mgk. And then I like, look around and I roll my windows up. I'm like, I can't. But now, you know what? I'm. I'm out.

[Big Cat]

Gatekeeping music is the worst.

[Travis Pastrana]

I'm out.

[Hank]

I'm officially. I'm coming out. I'm an MGK fan.

[Big Cat]

We should actually do the Mount Rushmore of worst gatekeepers.

[Hank]

Yeah, music.

[Big Cat]

Gatekeepers are my least favorite because, like, music is the most subjective.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You like what you like?

[Hank]

I like. I like mgk. I'm proud to say It's MGK Pride month.

[Jacob]

I haven't listened to the new album. You're going to have to give me, like, a spark. Notes of which one of which ones I should listen.

[Big Cat]

Sing one of the songs, please.

[Hank]

So boring.

[Big Cat]

Pretty good.

[Hank]

Why they make it look so up here in stories. Oh, there's a song. I want something else to get me through this. That's actually the chorus of one of his songs. And I was listening to it, I was like. I was like, this just. Just took a chorus from another song. But anyways, he's good. My other who's back of the week is fatherhood.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, I had it as well.

[Hank]

Fatherhood's back.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

For a while, fatherhood was kind of a thing that people were afraid to talk about, much like being an MGK fan. But on Thursday, Anna Lewis tweeted out, pro life NFL legend team. Tim Tebow shares a video holding his baby girl while working. Humanizing fatherhood. Get married, have kids. And it's got 32 million impressions on it right now. First of all, referring to Tim Tebow as an NFL legend. Great troll bait.

[Big Cat]

Great troll.

[Hank]

Absolutely great troll bait. But I never thought, like, okay, fathers are humans, until I saw Tim Tebow, NFL legend, working while also holding his child.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's.

[Hank]

And by working, I mean he was looking at a laptop.

[Big Cat]

He was looking at his laptop.

[Hank]

He was getting screen time.

[Big Cat]

He was looking at his laptop of Course they're going to politicize Tim Tebow having a kid.

[Zach]

Is that.

[Hank]

Is that politics?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. Well, the whole have kids part.

[Hank]

Yeah. Have kids, maybe.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But it was just so funny because that baby is, I don't know, two months old. That's like the easiest time to, like, look after your kid. They can't go anywhere.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah, man. I respect Tim Tebow for the fact that he was a. He was like the poster child for virginity.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And now he's the poster child for having sex.

[Big Cat]

I've never seen a father hold their child and scroll their computer.

[Hank]

This guy's a dual threat.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy. It's crazy. Okay, my. Who's back? So I had. I had fatherhood as well. Tim Tebow, never been done. Yeah, look. Look at this. You guys were gonna see this video, be like, that's it. That's all he's doing.

[Hank]

Yeah. He's holding his kid.

[Big Cat]

He's bouncing his newborn baby. Well, well, clicking on a mouse while.

[Hank]

Not paying attention to his baby.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But it's also that that baby does not need attention paid because they're a baby that just sleeps all day.

[Hank]

He's kind of carrying it like a loaf of bread. I'd like to see more security.

[Big Cat]

The more head security.

[Zach]

Yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

My who's back of the week is dumb bets, because we're getting right close to college football season. We got two of them, guys. We got two of them. The first is Paul Finebaum. Paul Fine Bomb said that if an SEC team doesn't win the national championship, he will leave the country.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I think he's going to use a loophole here and just, like, leave for vacation after the season.

[Hank]

Leave God's country.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. But that was what he said. So we got to hold them to it.

[Hank]

Yeah, I Listen, if you get mad at Paul Fine Bomb at this point and you don't understand that you're just playing into the WWE act of Paul Feinbaum, the joke's on you. 100. If you're a Big Ten fan that's actually mad at Paul Fine Bomb, be like, I hate that guy. First of all, I love you because you're what makes sports fun.

[Big Cat]

College football.

[Hank]

And continue to do that, please. For my own satisfaction. But you got to be smarter in the year 2025 to be able to fall for Paul Fine Bomb's trap. It just. You gotta be better.

[Big Cat]

Here's what Paul Feinbaum's gonna do if Ohio State wins, if Oregon with Penn State wins. If someone else wins Clemson, Paul Fine Bomb is going to take a picture from Italy in the end of January and be like, see? Promises made, promises delivered. I left the country.

[Hank]

I'm on vacation. I'm in Palermo.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Paying my bet.

[Zach]

Yeah. All right.

[Big Cat]

And the other one. This one. So a Twitter account called the Raider Hub, Texas Tech fan said this is. This is a great time of year because we talked about it with Justin Fields and how you get excited about preseason football. So the Raider hub said there's a legitimate possibility that Texas Tech could leave Salt Lake City4.0 and be the number one ranked team in the country talking about the upcoming season. And then it was quote treated by CFB Fight Club saying, if Texas Tech is ranked number one at any point this season, I will shove a five layer burrito up my ass. So we have another five layer burrito.

[Hank]

I like it.

[Big Cat]

And then I was like, am I just like, why do I even care about this guy? But guess what, CFB Fight Club, you earned a follow. Because I went and clicked on your page and it says, interactive place to talk all the trash you want on each other's school. Love that year round account dedicated to college football.

[Hank]

It's like Yik yak.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's. It's Smoot. It's Smoot.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Hank]

Smooth talk.

[Big Cat]

Smooth talk. So, yeah, he just talks shit about every college football team. I'm in on it.

[Zach]

That's.

[Hank]

That's good stuff. Somebody reminded me a couple weeks ago of the fact that I. I said when Greg Shiano was announced as the head coach of Rutgers that if. Because he said we're gonna be ranked number one.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

At some point I said, if Rutgers is ever ranked number one in football, I will cut my penis off.

[Zach]

Oh.

[Hank]

But I feel good about that bet, actually.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

I. I still think that that's one that I'm gonna be on the winning side of.

[Big Cat]

It has to be with Greg Shiano.

[Hank]

With Greg.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Hank]

I. I don't know how I phrased it. I might be okay with just saying.

[Big Cat]

For the rest of time for.

[Hank]

Until the day I die.

[Big Cat]

Because they did win the first national championship.

[Zach]

They did.

[Hank]

And don't get me wrong, I love Rutgers. James Gandolfini. Great school and birthplace of college football. They invented the sport.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Hank]

Piscataway is magical on a Saturday in early September.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Hank]

But I feel like my penis is safe.

[Big Cat]

I would say so.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But that's. That's a good bet to at least have out there.

[Zach]

Okay.

[I]

Oh, I've got. Who's Back as well. My who's back of the week.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that reminded me. Someone tweeted me. There was a discussion that I said that if we ever wrote a book, I'd put a free brazzer's password in the book. I will do that. So that's another bet.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I will make sure that you know what I'm gonna say. 10 brazzers passwords in the book that we sell.

[I]

Is that one per book or 10 in each book? And you can't have to claim first 10.

[Big Cat]

Whoever gets the book first can get their free razors password. Okay, go ahead, Zach.

[I]

My who's back of the week is going to be our co worker, Michael Kadik. Because I've had a blast watching him traverse the Jersey shore here recently.

[Zach]

Yes.

[I]

He's going tarps off. He's protecting chicken finger. I saw him in a drum line doing percussion. Bass drum at some point.

[Zach]

Yep.

[I]

He's busting dance moves that aren't in the bag of most big guys. And I just. I just. I can't get enough of it. He's all the way back.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

He's protecting chicken fingers.

[Big Cat]

His. Yes, his actual chicken finger.

[Hank]

I love that.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

They might have been personal, but they were protected.

[Hank]

That's what he does is the video.

[Big Cat]

Of him just farting and the face he made, it was like. It was. It was a two year old.

[I]

Is pure joy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, pure joy of like, oh, my God, I just made that out of my butt. And he just had like these girls sitting around watching. Good. Who's back? No video games.

[I]

Trying to broaden the horizons for you.

[Big Cat]

What's happening in video games?

[I]

Battlefield 6 beta came out this weekend.

[Big Cat]

Are you gonna be part of this pretty fun crew that Sass and Mook and Jerry have?

[I]

They're doing an awesome thing.

[Big Cat]

They do it.

[I]

They're starting a Challengers team. So, like, Challengers is a step before you would have like a professional Call of Duty team. They're starting from the ground up on that. I wish them the best of luck in those endeavors. That's such an awesome thing to try to accomplish.

[Hank]

Are they playing in it or are they just owning it?

[I]

So they're starting the team, looking for guys to play on the team.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

You're gonna start your own streaming.

[I]

They're in an ownership which we have.

[Big Cat]

Position on last week of August.

[I]

Last week, August.

[Big Cat]

We will be streaming. Zach will be streaming. We might start with college football and then we'll go off from there.

[I]

We can rip streams.

[Hank]

Yeah, I'm done.

[I]

Ripstreams because.

[Big Cat]

Okay, good. Who's backs, everyone? Let's do our Mount Rushmore. And then we get to Travis Pastrana. Mount Rushmore is brought to you by our friends at Chevy. For over a century, Chevy has been building trucks that don't flinch and never quit. Whether you're hauling lumber on the job or trying to get the smoker, the cooler, the cornhole boards, and the whole crew to the tailgate on time, Chevy gets you there. When Chevy says most dependable truck, they're not just speculating. Chevy trucks have earned more dependability awards for trucks than any other brand, according to J.D. power 2025. Sounds like they have the stats to prove it. In every Chevy truck, dependability comes standard. For more on Chevy trucks, visit chevy.com and visit jdpower.comawards for more award details. If you're thinking about becoming a truck person, Chevy is the truck number one truck for Pardon my take. All right, Ready for the Mount Rushmore, guys?

[Zach]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Mount Rushmore. Of things we are excited to do when we're old, who goes first? So the standings are 33. 33. 30.

[Hank]

It's anyone's game right now.

[Big Cat]

Who too close?

[Hank]

Surprisingly, Hanks Mount Rushmore of Dream Blunt rotation did not finish in last. So shout out, Hank.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Hunter S. Thompson. People didn't like that pick. That was probably a bad pick by me.

[Hank]

I would agree, though.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Who goes first?

[Memes]

I believe PFT and Hank.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

And then we're second.

[Memes]

You're second. Me and Max third.

[Big Cat]

We've been doing this the same order every day, every week this summer. So I've gotta ask. Still confused.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

So, Hank, is this me or is this you?

[Big Cat]

Actually, you guys are. You guys are the same team?

[Hank]

We're the same team. But I forget who's taking. Who's taking the lead. I think it's me.

[Producer]

You got the rock, sir.

[Hank]

Okay, so one one. Hank, do you think the second one on our list is good? I don't want to screw up one one.

[Producer]

I don't know. That's the loaded question.

[Hank]

I think it's a good. I think it's a good choice.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Producer]

I trust you. I don't want to say yes to that.

[Big Cat]

I.

[Producer]

Whatever you want to pick. I'm.

[Hank]

I'm down with playing golf every day.

[Zach]

Okay. Play golf every day. Okay.

[Jacob]

I don't know why you even had any discussion.

[Hank]

Yeah, it's good pick. I don't know why Hank thought maybe not.

[Producer]

Yeah, well, I just didn't want to. You know, it's obviously going to be.

[Big Cat]

My I said it.

[Hank]

I said it.

[Producer]

Yeah. No, no.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Listen, I've played golf every day since Tuesday. It's. It's kind of fun.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It's a good thing to do.

[Big Cat]

Okay. R11. Not have to work. Not work.

[Hank]

Not work.

[Zach]

Yep. What do you mean? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How do you play golf every day if you don't first not work?

[Hank]

Well, that is next job.

[Travis Pastrana]

I.

[Producer]

No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I. I'm. I'm ready for that. I feel like you love to work.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, I have. I went. Doing this exercise made me realize that I'm very excited to get, like, old.

[Zach]

Old.

[Hank]

Thing about me is I. I love my job.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So I love working.

[Big Cat]

But you guys. You guys can't play that game when you're just picked playing golf every day because that would be not working.

[Producer]

No, I. No, I know. I. I could play golf every day tomorrow.

[Big Cat]

Right. But you'd have to first not work. Right.

[Producer]

That wouldn't be a problem for me. I feel like it would be more of a transition for you.

[Big Cat]

Got it. That's what you're trying to say. Yeah, we're. I mean, I'm talking about, like, in two. I'm not talking about tomorrow. We're talking about when we get old.

[Zach]

True.

[Big Cat]

You're talking about tomorrow.

[Producer]

Yeah, I'm old.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Jacob]

I think those were. Those were the clear one. First two picks there.

[Big Cat]

You guys okay in there?

[Hank]

Yeah, you guys were.

[Big Cat]

They tried to. They tried to. They tried to come at me for. Me and Zach for saying not work. That's a.

[Zach]

That's a.

[Big Cat]

You guys had that.

[Jacob]

Yeah, those were the. Yeah, those were the clear one and two picks.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You guys were having a little. A little meeting in a dark room before this podcast.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, this is a thin rust.

[Jacob]

This is a tough ride.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I just. We went deep.

[I]

Enjoyed this one.

[Big Cat]

We enjoyed the hell out of this one.

[Jacob]

This. I think this is a real tough one.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I think it's wide open.

[Jacob]

We are going to say moving to good weather.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Memes]

Golf every day if weather's not nice.

[Zach]

Okay, cool.

[Jacob]

And we're going to follow that up with. Is this the right way to word this?

[Big Cat]

I don't know how they're in a.

[Zach]

No.

[Jacob]

This one, this one. This one we struggled with a lot.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Memes]

Is that the right way?

[Zach]

Okay.

[Jacob]

I don't know if that's the right.

[Zach]

Way to say it. Okay. What about that?

[Memes]

Is that better?

[Hank]

This is.

[Jacob]

No, I think it's. I think it's just.

[Producer]

Jesus Christ.

[Jacob]

I mean, you guys, we are the only ones who don't do the.

[Travis Pastrana]

I think I'm gonna take four.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, because I think, like, no. Max. Do you think?

[Jacob]

No, because I. I just make the decision.

[Zach]

You think? Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You think maybe that's because you're the only team that sits next to each other?

[Jacob]

No, because I make.

[Big Cat]

Just make decisions, sit next to each other.

[Hank]

Hank is.

[Big Cat]

You're literally doing that by saying this one. This one.

[Hank]

Hank is at a funeral. I've had to try to text with him. And now we're communicating for the first time is.

[Jacob]

But, like, the first time ever that I.

[Producer]

One person picks every week. Don't do that.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Producer]

What are you talking about?

[Zach]

Okay.

[Jacob]

I lost you.

[Travis Pastrana]

Our system is. All right.

[Producer]

One person has the ball. That's the whole system, you idiot.

[Big Cat]

Do you do.

[Hank]

Do you do this?

[Big Cat]

Do you do the two?

[Jacob]

15, 19, 24.

[Zach]

What? You. You just.

[Jacob]

You. You just say the two. 6, 9, 12, 17. 17. I think it's actually going to be 15.

[Hank]

I said. You just. I said, do you want to do the second one on the list?

[Jacob]

I know that's what you guys do every time. This is the first time that there was any delay.

[Hank]

We don't know. Me and Big Cat used to.

[Producer]

This is a unique circumstance because I'm fucking home for eight.

[Jacob]

I get that.

[Big Cat]

I think you forgot the funeral.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jacob]

Whatever. We're gonna sit.

[Zach]

Oh, no.

[Jacob]

Saying whatever you want and not giving a. That's what we're saying.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Zach]

Okay.

[I]

It's a good pick.

[Zach]

Good pick.

[Big Cat]

Do you think we could take four from that off that or.

[I]

No, I. I think those are separate.

[Zach]

Right? Yeah.

[I]

Because one is an. One is an attitude, one's an act.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

So what were your two picks?

[Jacob]

It was moving to good weather and saying whatever you want.

[Hank]

Not giving a. Got it.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Or do we take two? I'm gonna do this.

[I]

She's great as well. But do we just avoid the. Do we avoid possibly being. Do we avoid one being null and void by just taking two instead of taking four?

[Zach]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're gonna take napping. Just napping all the time.

[Zach]

We.

[Jacob]

We just had sleep. Like, you can just wake up whenever you want. You can nap whenever you want.

[Hank]

That's good pick.

[Big Cat]

Good pay is your. So should we ask if that. That pick would have been even.

[I]

It's. What, do we take it?

[Big Cat]

No.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we'll go napping. We have something that's similar to what you said, but so we know how it's gonna get ruled. We get. It'll probably be honorable mention.

[Jacob]

I mean, memes turned to me after you said it, said, can we say retire? And I was like, that's the same thing.

[Hank]

It's not working.

[Memes]

You're not working.

[Big Cat]

Like, it's. My next pick is trying to get my handicap lower.

[Zach]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

You guys have two.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

We're going to go with traveling. Traveling the world.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

Going on lots of sick vacations whenever you want.

[Jacob]

I feel like traveling is harder when you're older, though.

[Hank]

No, it. I'm not talking when you're like 95 years old. I'm talking. You're like 65.

[Jacob]

You guys see, this is. This has to be elder.

[Zach]

Good pick.

[Jacob]

You guys are old, and so this has to be.

[Big Cat]

Buddy. If we're old, you're in trouble.

[Jacob]

10 years younger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but you're in trouble.

[Jacob]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

If we're old.

[Jacob]

Correct. Because, like, we.

[Big Cat]

You got to be whole. You got to be doing the opposite.

[Jacob]

We couldn't do this.

[Big Cat]

That's a.

[Hank]

This is a wild objection in the world when you're old.

[Big Cat]

I have a 27 year old on my team and he did a great job.

[Hank]

That's what everyone does when they're like.

[I]

You'Ve all got so much more life to live.

[Jacob]

He is an older soul for sure.

[I]

So much more life to live. Guys.

[Big Cat]

All of us, wow. Could you just throwing the big O at us.

[Hank]

You're saying like the big O you can't get around. It's impossible to travel.

[Memes]

It's a lot tougher.

[Big Cat]

It is tougher.

[Hank]

It is tougher.

[Big Cat]

I also don't like traveling.

[Jacob]

I like traveling.

[Hank]

Traveling is great. Checking off places on the bucket list. I love that. All right, next up, we're going to go with never setting an alarm.

[Zach]

Never.

[Hank]

Okay, we.

[Jacob]

We. Yeah, we have that.

[Hank]

Yeah. Not setting an alarm. No alarms. Tomorrow, going to bed. Just let nature take its course.

[Big Cat]

Okay, we're gonna go. We're gonna go. We're gonna go off. We're gonna go off here for our last two picks. What do you, like, 10 do?

[Zach]

I love.

[I]

I love him, but what's he gonna do to us?

[Big Cat]

I think we gotta just be ourselves. We make ourselves laugh.

[I]

We would like to take as a third pick, light shoplifting.

[Big Cat]

Light shoplifting. Just a little bit of light shop.

[I]

Some of it.

[Big Cat]

When you're old, you can kind of just walk out with, oh, I'm sorry.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

And people aren't gonna get mad at you. Like, you can't. You can't rob.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But you can walk out with, you know, oh, I didn't know, I. I put the candy bar in there.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that drink. Oh, that soda that's in my pocket. Whoops.

[Hank]

I guess the days are just getting away from.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Light shoplifting. Do you guys like that pick? Little light shoplift.

[Hank]

I like that.

[Jacob]

It wasn't on our list.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I think this is where we went. A different place than you guys.

[Hank]

Old people can get away with crimes for sure.

[Zach]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jacob]

We are gonna go this one. This one we're excited about.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Jacob]

This one we're excited.

[Big Cat]

I'm excited that you're excited.

[Jacob]

We're going to do Becoming a regular at a restaurant.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Jacob]

Just like going to the same either breakfast spot or like I, I diner.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Going to the same diner.

[Big Cat]

Diner every morning.

[Jacob]

They know your order just the same thing. Like that's gonna be awesome.

[Hank]

There's like a really cute like 30 year old waitress.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

That's really sweet to you.

[Jacob]

That's like, I'm excited for What? Hank.

[Hank]

Hey, Mr. Del. How are you doing?

[Zach]

Hank.

[Hank]

Curious.

[Producer]

What is stopping you from doing that now?

[Big Cat]

Well, you can't. You have to work. It's work.

[Producer]

You don't go to restaurants.

[Hank]

You have a lot of free time.

[Jacob]

No, I do not. I do not go to the same rest. I'm not. I don't have my every morning open to go to. To a diner every morning.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, you said restaurant.

[Jacob]

Okay, sure.

[Zach]

Restaurant.

[Big Cat]

Hank, would you say that. No, you said restaurant.

[Jacob]

It's a restaurant.

[Memes]

Restaurant, diner, same thing.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, diner and restaurant.

[Hank]

I know what you guys are saying. Become a regular restaurant.

[Big Cat]

Hank, would you say it would be stronger pick if it was diner? Because you can't go to breakfast every morning when you're working.

[Producer]

I don't think we had it on our list. I feel like I go to the same restaurants and diners all the time now.

[Big Cat]

Are you a regular?

[Producer]

I. I not like regular.

[Travis Pastrana]

Regular.

[Big Cat]

Kind of proving their point. I. I had it on our list.

[Hank]

I. I thought about doing. Just meeting people for breakfast.

[Zach]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna have a breakfast club.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Just hanging out. Dudes. You want to meet me for breakfast tomorrow?

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

I'll have a cup of coffee, some.

[Big Cat]

Waffles, and then going home and napping.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Memes]

My grandparents went to the same diner for like 25 years and sat there for four hours every single day.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. Okay, and your last pick. This one.

[Jacob]

This. I see this one's kind of boring, but should we just say is so boring. But I. I might. I might pivot.

[Zach]

Pivot.

[Memes]

No, no, no pivot. What's a pivot?

[Jacob]

I think I might pivot.

[Big Cat]

No pivot. Have fun with it. Don't be boring.

[Jacob]

Getting super into an old, old person's game.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Whether it's like, I had card games.

[Jacob]

Yeah. Whether it's a card game, bingo, shuffleboard, or bingo. Just getting super into one game that you only play once you get old enough.

[Zach]

Yep. Paddle.

[Big Cat]

I think we gotta go with nine. We got nine. Nine is.

[I]

Yeah, Nine is a pick.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

Yeah, I agree.

[Big Cat]

Handicap parking.

[Jacob]

Oh, I can't wait.

[Big Cat]

Dude, if I get. Oh, we looked it up. We, like, looked up the law. It's if you can't walk unassisted 200ft. So if you have like a cane walker walking.

[Zach]

Mm.

[Big Cat]

I. Dude hit, though. Those spots are so fucking good.

[Jacob]

That's a good one.

[Big Cat]

They're so good.

[I]

Primo spots.

[Zach]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

I always pass it. I'm like, obviously don't want. I'm very thankful to be able. To be able.

[Zach]

Mm.

[Big Cat]

But if you're old, that's a good day. That's a good deal. I remember my grandfather had it. It was.

[Zach]

It was good.

[Jacob]

It's a very good pick. So that wasn't our list. I wish that was on our list.

[Hank]

I got a little life hack for. For the people out there get injured in college because having a handicap parking permit, a temporary one on a college campus, is the best thing that's ever happened to me in my life. It was awesome. You could. You could just drive right up to your class like five minutes before and get out and just walk right in. Didn't have to worry about the big parking lots or anything like that. If you have, like, a broken foot or a broken leg in college, that is actually the best thing you can.

[Zach]

Yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Your guys, last pick.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

Our last pick, Hank, do you have a recommendation? Because if not, I've got one.

[Producer]

I trust you, sir.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

So you guys tapped out on picks in the booth?

[Jacob]

No, we got.

[Zach]

We got.

[Producer]

We have.

[Travis Pastrana]

We have a lot of pics.

[Hank]

We got a ton on the board.

[Producer]

I. I mean, don't do the Jesus one. That's a joke.

[Big Cat]

We'll at least say it.

[Producer]

Finding Jesus and devoting my life to him.

[Hank]

All right.

[Big Cat]

I actually was kind of thinking, like, I get. Because I'm not a God guy, but I do think when people get older, they become more religious.

[Hank]

Yeah. Because you think, like, what if Save myself.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Okay, so for our last one, I'm going to go with pretending not to hear someone you don't Want to talk to regardless of who it is.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

If it's just a jerk that you don't like. If it's a police officer being like, hey, you can't park here.

[Big Cat]

What if you actually can't to hear them?

[Hank]

But yeah, you can do both.

[Zach]

Okay. Not being able.

[Big Cat]

You would definitely not be able to hear.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Pretending. But you can get away with pretending not to people that you don't want to talk to.

[Zach]

Yeah. Okay.

[Big Cat]

I enjoyed that Mount Rushmore. That was fun. We had a lot of honorable mentions. I'm surprised spoiling grandkids didn't make it. That's kind of boring.

[Producer]

I had. I. I asked my dad to do this. He gave me an entire list. It was just roasting the podcast.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Do you want me to. You want me to read them or you want to.

[Producer]

Yeah, you got it.

[Hank]

So from Hank's dad, dunking a basketball, learning freebird, getting TSA pre check, going to the dentist regularly.

[Big Cat]

Actually have it. Don't.

[Hank]

Yoga living on one level. That would actually be cool.

[Big Cat]

That was a good ranch house.

[Hank]

Ranch house.

[Big Cat]

Ranch house.

[Hank]

Ranch house at the beach.

[Big Cat]

Dude ranch house in the desert.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Hank]

Oh, when your kids all come home to visit. Getting rid of all your work clothes, wearing roback all the time, not having to dye your hair. Feeling not bad about farting all the time.

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[Hank]

Good list from. From Mr. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That is very good. Also, the roback one is solid because my dad loves the free roback I gave him.

[Hank]

Did your dad also include. When your kids remember your birthday.

[Producer]

You forgot that one.

[Big Cat]

The one we were gonna do that. I don't know if it was very similar to your second pick, but. But I'm excited for being able to flirt with every waitress.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah, it would.

[Jacob]

It would have been different enough, I think.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But flirting with waitresses, calling everyone sweetie. Yeah, it's pretty. That's gonna be fun. Where you get off color jokes. That's kind of what you guys were going for.

[Jacob]

You can just say whatever you want.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

We probably should take the senior discounts.

[Jacob]

Yeah, we had senior discounts. We had Social Security. Social Security was going to be our boring one, but.

[Hank]

Yeah, collecting.

[Producer]

Collecting social or. Yeah, Collecting Social Security.

[Hank]

All forms of retirement.

[Jacob]

Yeah, but that's. That just feels like.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

What? Whatever.

[Big Cat]

All right, so, Hank, do you want to hear why I am now comfortable with getting old after doing this exercise?

[Zach]

Okay. Here.

[Big Cat]

Here's what I have. This is all the things that made me. And some of them were already picked. They're, like, becoming a regular At a diner. Sitting on my porch. Just sitting on my porch. Don't sit on the porch.

[Jacob]

Memes. Memes at it.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Day baseball. Just going to everyday baseball. Horse track.

[Jacob]

I knew you were going to say horse, horse, track.

[Big Cat]

All day, every day.

[Jacob]

I knew you were going to say.

[Big Cat]

I'm ready to retire now that I've gone through this big. I'm going to become a big time metal detector at the beach guy. Big time. Do you like that or no?

[Jacob]

No, I hate. Okay, that sounds.

[Big Cat]

That's fine.

[Jacob]

That sounds like doing yard work.

[Big Cat]

No, that's way better. You're gonna find shit. Early dinner. I would love to do early dinner. Early dinners rock. You're done with dinner at like 6:00'. Clock. That's so great. Watching your enemies die. I got some enemies that I wouldn't hate seeing die.

[Hank]

That's a good one.

[Big Cat]

And like, the older you get, the better chance you have to watch them die.

[Zach]

Mm.

[Jacob]

I think more about friends, but yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, I was trying to do the positives.

[Hank]

Like Jimmy Carter had to be pretty pumped in his.

[Big Cat]

How many enemies?

[Producer]

Yeah, how many enemies?

[Big Cat]

I got a list of enemies. Hopefully you're not on it. Getting multiple dogs.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Like, I think old people. That's like an old person thing to get. Like big dog, little. Little dog, medium sized dog. You just walk them around all day. Just walk them around your neighborhood. Shed dogs.

[Hank]

Getting a bunch of dogs. A lot of land. Maybe growing her crops. I'm thinking about the farmhouse again.

[Big Cat]

What do you guys think about train set sets?

[Hank]

No, I'm out.

[Big Cat]

I think I would love to be a train set guy.

[Zach]

No.

[Hank]

That's a world I don't think you want to get into. You might get shot like Bobby Bakala.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

I think train sets have potential.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

Or anything. Like maybe woodwork too.

[Zach]

What do you think? Yeah.

[I]

Any hands on where, like keeps your cognitive function going, but you're like. You're achieving a goal, but at the end of the day, it's like a train car.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Y. I thought I thought of this one. This one probably is going to get poo pooed, dude. I think I would maybe become a big puzzle guy. Like big.

[Zach]

Not.

[Big Cat]

Not. I'm. I love puzzles. I'm talking about the big puzzle. It's just the one that takes up your whole room.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It just stays on.

[Big Cat]

You might have a puzzle, like walking by every morning and just putting one piece in.

[Zach]

Yep.

[Jacob]

I like that is like such a. Yeah. If you sit down and it's like a really like large number puzzle and you get one piece.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Jacob]

It's such a. It's such a good sense of, you know, I'm.

[Big Cat]

Accomplishment.

[Jacob]

Yes. That's what I was trying to find there.

[Big Cat]

Just walking by and being like, yep.

[Zach]

All right.

[Big Cat]

There's my puzzle for the day.

[Hank]

Yeah. Just developing new hobbies.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Trying out new hobbies.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But really the racetrack day. Baseball. Flirting with waitresses at the diner that I'm a regular at. That's pretty much.

[Hank]

I think you're talking about Pete Rose.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Pretty much become Pete Rose.

[Big Cat]

Cool with that. What else did you get in the.

[Hank]

Baseball hall of Fame when you die?

[Memes]

Yeah, we had eating whatever you want because you're just gonna die anyway.

[Zach]

Okay. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But that goes the other way where, like, you. I feel like every old person, like, they're. They want to. They're trying to hold on.

[Hank]

You got to hold on as hard as you can. Yeah. And also, as you get older, if you continue to eat poorly, then you just. You shit yourself.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You have to, like, start watching what you eat because your body handles things better.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Max didn't like this pick, but retirement homes where you fuck all the time.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah. If you're a dude in a retirement home.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

But the actual home itself seems bad.

[Big Cat]

Well, there's, like, some are.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I.

[Zach]

You.

[Big Cat]

Retirement homes. No. Retirement communities.

[Jacob]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Communities is what you want. Where it's like standalone houses, but they're all like, you know, like, age people.

[Hank]

Like, assisted living. Doesn't sound fun. But a retirement community.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Hank]

Where you have, like. It's like upscale, upscale condos, but you have, like, a common area with your restaurant.

[Jacob]

Yeah. No, that's awesome.

[Hank]

That's awesome.

[Big Cat]

It's like a walkable little mini city.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

Everybody's doing golf carts.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

I was.

[Big Cat]

More communities.

[Jacob]

I was just thinking, happy going more, like, in my. In my head, I was like, that sounds bad.

[Hank]

Golf carts is a big miss. Getting everywhere in your golf cart.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[I]

Golf cart's so much fun.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

It might be the best part of golf.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Memes]

It's sitting at the docks.

[Zach]

Oh.

[Hank]

Going out on your.

[Big Cat]

Sitting.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just sitting a lot. Like, just sitting around and just. Yeah. Just staring out at the ocean, Staring out at your porch. Playing cards. Like I said, bingo night, shuffleboard.

[Jacob]

There's so many games. I just want to get into an old person. I just want to get really into a game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Rummy. Rummy's fantastic.

[Big Cat]

Rummy's great. Love rummy.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What else did you have, Zach?

[I]

Have people drive you around?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

Ever having to be, like, behind the wheel.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

Chauffeured. Also, you're never the dd, so I get the functions. You can just kind of get fucked up. Yes. Other stuff that could be fun as an older person is a.

[Zach]

Wait.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Zach]

Oh.

[I]

Never have. Check your phone.

[Zach]

Yeah. Mm.

[I]

You don't have to worry about any emails, text, phone calls. You just. You're communicating with who you got in front of you, and that's it.

[Big Cat]

The comically large text on your phones.

[I]

You are like 200 zoom.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Hank]

What about forgetting what day of the week it is?

[I]

That's gonna be nice.

[Big Cat]

That's kind of one of those things. One big day, you know, the whole, like, you. You basically are a baby, and then an old person is a baby. That's like. My kids never know what day of the week it is.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But if you're old, it's because you.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It doesn't matter.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I'm going to wake up, I'm going to do what I want every day. Every day.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, the diner thing is what I really just want to breakfast the same place.

[Hank]

Do you think that Saturdays actually suck for old people? I'm not talking about college football Saturday, but, like, Saturdays in general. Like, all the restaurants. Basketball Saturday. Well, I'm just saying, on a Saturday, all the restaurants are packed. Way more traffic in places that normally don't have traffic.

[Big Cat]

I would normally say yes, but sports start earlier.

[Hank]

Sports do start earlier on Saturday. Yeah, but I mean.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, like. Like golf tee times are harder.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Going to the movies.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You could be right.

[Hank]

It's like reverse weekends.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

Or like when you have a. Like, say you're 75, 80. Got an older friend as well. Been with you for a long time. Maybe just, like, sitting down, hanging out, reminiscing a little bit. Like old stories.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

That always looks like a blast.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Just scoffing at kids. You don't have to be cool. You wear whatever you want. Mismatched clothes.

[Zach]

Yep.

[I]

Slippers everywhere.

[Travis Pastrana]

We.

[Big Cat]

We did we. When we were talking, we're like. We wear sweatpants every day and we're like, well, that's what we do already.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that's. That doesn't really play as well.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

That was good. Mount Rushmore.

[Hank]

It really. It makes me look forward to being old a little bit.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Hank, do you think I can retire now that I've laid out my diner nap, horse track day, baseball?

[Producer]

But no.

[Zach]

Why?

[Producer]

Because you're still. You're still going to want to get off your takes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but I could just do it at the diner. What if PFC and I just have a standing date at the diner every morning and we make you come with a recorder.

[Hank]

You produce it. It's just not even recorded. I think we're talking about a conversation.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we so would do that too.

[Hank]

We're talking about a conversation.

[Big Cat]

Just pay Max, Hank, and Memes to just come with us with. With the zoom and just be like, hey, you guys got to record this and put it out.

[Hank]

Oh, eating. Eating a little bit of dessert with every meal.

[Zach]

Huh?

[Hank]

Like breakfast, dessert.

[Big Cat]

A little bite.

[Hank]

Lunch, dessert.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Old people, definitely. They get pop pie at breakfast.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

I'll have you know what? We'll do the pie.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's so true.

[Hank]

Have you ever done this? This actually happened to me on Friday night. Went out to a nice restaurant, wanted dessert. They had as their special, at the bottom, they had peaches and cream.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

I was like, I haven't had peaches and cream maybe ever, but it sounds good. I ordered the peaches and cream, and it was a salad.

[Zach]

What?

[Hank]

It was like cubed peaches, and the cream was like. It was like a cheese, and then there was like a vinaigrette and. And spinach on it. I accidentally ordered a salad for my dessert, but it was at the bottom of the mini. So you would think that being at the bottom. Yeah, that means dessert. I just had to sit there and I ate a salad for dessert on Friday. It really got the weekend off to a bad.

[Big Cat]

That's terrible.

[Hank]

Yeah, I'm still thinking about it. I woke up thinking about the dessert salad.

[Big Cat]

I had so much ice cream. By the way, I want to make a quick announcement because Zach is part of the cream team. I have, much like Oppenheimer, building the bomb. I got soft serve ice cream the other day, and actually Max, Zach, and Jacob did a great Viva TV video. Go watch it now. Where they tried out people for the cream team. Max tried out and he. Max made a point that it's too soupy. I went out and got ice cream this weekend, and it was eight layers of soft serve. And it was perfectly stood so firm and tall. I told these guys they have to stop at nothing to get us to that point in our machine.

[Hank]

So are you talking. What do you mean, eight layers?

[Big Cat]

Like, it was eight swirls.

[Hank]

So eight times 360 degrees.

[Big Cat]

And it was just. It was as. As like perfect. We can't. What do you think we can get to four. We can do.

[I]

We can do four consistently. We can't. We can't touch eight right now. In full transparency.

[Big Cat]

I told them, do anything you have to do, whether it's the temperature, the mix, whatever. Because Zach's like, we might break the machine. I was like, you have to try.

[Hank]

I think it's more about the balance of the cone. Like you could design a piece of robotics that would has like a gyroscope in it that keeps the cone perfectly level and moves around in circles. And you might be able to get up to 10.

[Big Cat]

No. But the thickness of our ice cream is the problem.

[I]

It's those bottom foundational layers to hold the other rows. And our foundational layers after like four and maybe like a half turn with the peak are they start to fade away quick starts to fall.

[Hank]

You got to get a big cone.

[Big Cat]

Max is the one who brought this.

[Jacob]

Yeah. The way I described it is, have you seen those tick tocks where people will take soft serve ice cream and just throw it at their co workers face?

[Big Cat]

We need to get to that.

[Jacob]

I don't know if you've seen these videos. It's a trend that. That was going on on Tick Tock for a while.

[Hank]

I missed that one.

[Jacob]

But they get the way that they. It's like a baseball and then it just sticks. Like it doesn't drip at all even after it hits the person in the face. And it's so thick that it. That it travels so well. There's no way that our. That our cream would travel like that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're gonna get our cream to that point. Since we're. Since we're doing the Mount Rushmore things we look forward to when we're old and you called us old with the.

[Jacob]

Capital O. Yeah, no, well, that was in the lash out portion of the Rushmore.

[Zach]

Okay. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Since we are old with a capital o, what's the 41 thing?

[Jacob]

I know the 67.

[Travis Pastrana]

I do too.

[Big Cat]

I found out about that. But that's.

[Jacob]

I know that one.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if I said it. And then I went and looked it up.

[Memes]

The 67 is a song.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

What's 41?

[Jacob]

Oh, wait, I thought the 67 was on the like periodic table, that it was like ho.

[Memes]

But then there's also a song to it where it's a 6 7.

[I]

41 is just Hooba's version of 6 7. He just indoctrinated.

[Zach]

Oh, that's just who.

[Big Cat]

Before I made it, he.

[I]

Yeah, him and a guy named.

[Zach]

What?

[I]

There's a guy. Something Dom. I forget the first part of his name. But it's just instead of 6, 7, it's 41.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I wish I hadn't learned this.

[Hank]

41.

[Memes]

And then 6, 7 is like this.

[Big Cat]

I know 6, 7 br. You see, Brian Dable did it.

[Hank]

What does this mean when you go six, seven that I don't have for you, Hank.

[Producer]

41.

[Jacob]

I really thought I meant men.

[Zach]

Ho.

[I]

They also sell like six, seven water now. Like they're getting in the beverage.

[Hank]

I'm so lost right now.

[Jacob]

I think I'm right. I think I'm right ho. Because 67 on the periodic table is home.

[Big Cat]

Home is hoe.

[Memes]

So in the song 67, they're talking hoes.

[Big Cat]

Back in our day when 69 was the only funny number, 69 and 420 was all you needed.

[Hank]

420 was great.

[Big Cat]

Really sad where we've gotten to. All right, let's get to our interview. We got Travis Pastrana. Awesome interview. One of the coolest guys in the world. And also we taped this before Zach got his orange hat, so we didn't even know. Only went up from there. But awesome interview. Let's do it.

[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is Grit Week, presented by. Hey, dude. It's Travis Pastrana. 17x game medals. Is that right?

[Travis Pastrana]

I. I think you only count the gold, so. Okay, so it's 11.

[Big Cat]

All right. No, I'm gonna count all. So 11 gold. 17 total.

[Travis Pastrana]

Right.

[Big Cat]

All right, so we're. We're here on Grit Week. We're in Pastrana land. It's insane here. First question is always, what does the word grit mean to you?

[Travis Pastrana]

For me, grit means it doesn't matter how sick you are, how hurt you are, how whatever's getting in your way, you get it done.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I think that's a. I think coming from you, that makes sense, because I've been reading up. I guess I. I guess to start at the beginning, like, you. You started. You were on a dirt bike when you were 4 years old, is that right?

[Travis Pastrana]

Yep. Racing. My whole family was kind of construction. My dad was always riding dirt bikes. So, yeah, it was.

[Big Cat]

That's insane.

[Travis Pastrana]

I think now, though, dude, the kids. If you don't start by four, you're probably not making it to that professional level. There's very few. I mean, yeah, like McGrath and some of the guys back in the 90s that started riding BMX first.

[Zach]

First.

[Travis Pastrana]

But nowadays, like, it is. It's amazing how hard these kids work and how good they are. Is that competitive coming along? So progression's ridiculous.

[Hank]

Did you think when you're growing up that there was, like, a big future for you? Like, financially, professionally, like, just going fast all the time.

[Travis Pastrana]

As a kid, you never. I don't know. My reality never set in. Like, I feel like every kid wants to be a firefighter, astronaut, soccer player, football, whatever it is. And I just. As I got older, my friends started having to figure out they're getting real jobs or they're getting hurt or they didn't love what they do. And I'm 41 years old, still making a living on kids toys. I mean, it's freaking awesome.

[Big Cat]

This place is insane. I mean, for. We. We put out a video. I think people will see the video before the interview. But you have 20 acres. What? You have 20 acres yourself. You're saying it's 100 acres total? There's a bunch of tracks. You took us out. We did some jumps. I mean, it's. It's like dreamland.

[Travis Pastrana]

Trusting me, by the way. Yeah, no, it's good. It's so this area we basically built, you know, from the time I signed. I won my first X Games, got a little bit of money. Everything's gone into this land and it's a redneck paradise. But it's, it's funny because everyone thinks this is like way in the middle of nowhere, but we're, you know, we're 16 miles from the D.C. beltway and we're five miles from Annapolis. So it's, it's really cool. And we got just. All the people that live on this road are all either snap on workers or their military or mechanics. Like if you need anything done or there's a zombie apocalypse, this is where you want to be.

[Hank]

I was thinking about that. Yeah. So in case goes down, is it cool if we just crash here for a while?

[Travis Pastrana]

Oh yeah, yeah. We got, we got arsenals and most of the houses there's. The people are out back shooting all the time. We do all. I mean it's if when I say redneck paradise, I mean we can fix anything, we can build anything, we jump anything, we crash everything. We're always on bikes, we're always in cars. And it's like for me, I don't think I've ever grown up. I think my wife is starting to realize that now. Like she's, you know, she lived this life a lot, but she's like, all right, you know, now we, we moved about a, you know, about a mile away. So not too far, but just far enough to be like, all right. There has to be a separation from like, you know.

[Hank]

Yeah, this is your state.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

This is where you go to have fun. Yeah, that sort of thing. But I feel like this is where. How many hours a week do you spend out here?

[Travis Pastrana]

So I'm not home a lot, to be perfectly honest. So we're probably. But when I'm home, I'm here. What's really cool about moving away was, you know, now I kind of come and it really feels like this is my, my job, if you will, and I can come in here and what's cool now is my kids are 10 and 11 years old. They were just out running the can ams all morning. And four wheelers, they're not as big into the motorcycles, but I mean we got like the world's biggest trampoline out there.

[Big Cat]

They said, okay, yeah, we saw that. We saw that. That scared the out of me.

[Zach]

Right, right. Yeah.

[Hank]

Has there, has there been an idea? Because you have so many different jumps, so many different parts of this property that you can go out and like. Like, just be creative around with it. Has there been an idea that's been, like, too much where you've had to say, I don't know about that one. That one seems like it's a little too far?

[Travis Pastrana]

Well, we're currently just purchased the world's largest outdoor wind tunnel, so that might.

[Big Cat]

How big is it?

[Travis Pastrana]

So it's second biggest in the world to Dubai, but it's the world's biggest outside, so it's, you know, it's like 25ft in circumference. So it's pretty big. Yeah, but it's going to take four, like, megawatts. I don't even know what a megawatt is, but it's like, I feel like we're going back to the future here, so it's. I don't know if we can even afford to, like, power it, so that might have been too big.

[Big Cat]

What are you gonna do with it? Yeah, what are you gonna. Wind tunnel, dude.

[Travis Pastrana]

We got a catapult system coming, so the catapult, we're gonna fly up and see if we can stop in the.

[Hank]

Wind, like, in midair, like. Yeah, suspend yourself.

[Travis Pastrana]

Wonder if we could, like, backflip dirt bikes over and, like, high five the people, you know, we have so many ideas.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

It is limitless.

[Hank]

Wait, you.

[Big Cat]

And you jumped out of an airplane without a parachute.

[Zach]

You before, Right.

[Travis Pastrana]

It's kind of. Pastor fails my favorite kind of test.

[Big Cat]

Okay, so what was that?

[Zach]

What.

[Big Cat]

Why did you decide to do that?

[Travis Pastrana]

Have you ever seen.

[Big Cat]

Did you have kids at the time?

[Travis Pastrana]

No. No.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

All right.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah. Before Pre kids, pre wife.

[Zach]

Let's. You know.

[Travis Pastrana]

But yeah, so Point Break. I mean, Johnny Utah did it. I was like, you gotta. So kind of as a joke, it started out, and then I started skydiving. I'm like, man, there's some really, really good skydivers. I'm like, we could probably drop an anvil out, which would be me kind of like, yeah, yeah, I'm all right. I can get around on this guy. But those guys are amazing. So, yeah, we hired some guys that. Actually, one of the guys that caught me was military because it was kind of not exactly legal to do. So the pilot was 15 years old and didn't have a pilot's license.

[Big Cat]

There's a word for that, by the way. It's illegal.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah, I guess I could stop with that. Yeah. Anyway, so I wouldn't recommend doing it, but it was. It was fun. It was a good checklist. I was. I was young.

[Big Cat]

Were you scared at all.

[Travis Pastrana]

The scariest part was that when I jumped out of the plane in board shorts and my socks.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

And I kind of giggled. I thought, this is, like, this feels normal. And that's what scared me.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. I was gonna say because, like, you're just reading about your, like, upbringing.

[Zach]

So.

[Big Cat]

So four years old, you're on your. You're racing competitively on. On a motorbike. How many hours a day were you on, like, a motorbike when you were five, six, seven?

[Travis Pastrana]

So. Well, so my whole family was all either military or Division one. My uncle Allen was quarterback for Denver Broncos for two years. Like, I was the runt of my family for sure. And the only way that I could prove that I was tough. I mean, like, granddad was called boxer. They were all like, everyone was tough.

[Big Cat]

Something.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah, something. And I. I wasn't. So what I realized was I'm extremely durable. And when it came to, like, jumping off of bridges, a lot of bridges around here in the water, like, I didn't mind doing the most flips, and I didn't mind getting hurt. I didn't mind flopping. And then, you know, we started kind of doing with some of the other family guys that. Like my cousin Greg, and we started filming stuff, and all of a sudden, this was kind of pre. YouTube and everything, and it just kind of kind of evolved from there.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I was gonna say, because you. I was also reading that you got diagnosed with adhd. Was that the easiest diagnosis ever?

[Zach]

No.

[Travis Pastrana]

Well, because they were just.

[Big Cat]

The doctors were just like, yeah, this kid's riding motorbikes and jumping off bridges when he's 4 years old.

[Travis Pastrana]

The irony on that was that, yes, I was diagnosed with adhd, but now when I. All the. Like, the testing that we do, so we've done just a bunch of stuff for head injuries, concussions, a lot of really cool stuff with, like, the Latrell brothers, Lone survivor Marcus and Morgan. They've invited a couple of Nitro circus guys, as well as some of the NFL players down. You know, we paid for it. But just to go through their same concussion protocols and stuff, and learned a lot besides getting sidetracked and completely forgetting what we were talking about right now. The coolest part about that.

[Zach]

That.

[Travis Pastrana]

What was the question?

[Big Cat]

The ADHD was the easiest diagnosis ever, because.

[Travis Pastrana]

No, no.

[Big Cat]

But we're riding motorbikes at 4.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah. So I do get easily distracted. But all. All of these. All of these tests, it was funny because I have. I'm in the top, like, 1% of attention but only when most people's attention falls off.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Like, I don't know, I just kind of get fixated on certain things.

[Hank]

If you really care about something when your life is. You're focused on it.

[Zach]

So.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah, when adrenaline kicks in, like, when most people's brains kind of go the other way, like, that's when. That's my happy spot.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Yeah, that's. I mean, that's pretty incredible stuff. So, yeah, so you. You come up, you start riding competitively, and then you get your first X Games medal. You put everything into this place. And then when you first. When you first got the spot and you got the bulldozer, you said, the what? The yellow truck and the bulldozer were the first things that you got here.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yep. So I kind of did it a little bit backwards from most people, but. But mind you, my dad is like, hey, your Uncle Allen might have been the greatest athlete's ever come out of Annapolis. And he's still, you know, working construction in the summers, and he's teaching senior citizen health and coaching lacrosse at the community. Community college. He's like, you're never going to make a living doing what you love, but any day that you can wake up and do what you love, it's worth everything. So my whole goal was basically, hey, look, this isn't going to last forever. So I'm gonna wake up with that passion. We're gonna go out. And I've, to this day, always treated sport as like, just. And I switched a lot of times when turned down a paycheck for motocross to go do freestyle, turn down freestyle to go do rally. Go spend all your money trying to turn left. Not very good at nascar.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

But, you know, it's. It's like, what do you wake up and what drives you kind of thing.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

And what's really cool about that is just. I've always been kind of just all in.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

For everything. And it's. It's led me to here. Although we spent most of our money, like, just investing back in the sport.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Building ramps, doing stupid stuff.

[Hank]

So it was never about, like, a vision that you had for this place. It was like, wake up every day, follow your passion. And then it just kind of grew naturally every step of the way.

[Travis Pastrana]

100. And it's. It's amazing, like, around here, you know, it takes a village. And we have. We have a very eclectic group. You know, welders, ramp builders, we got construction guys. We've got just about anything that you could imagine. And everyone, you know, Filmers, editors, and we've just got this group of friends now, and it's so cool. And the YouTube stuff, I always thought YouTubers were just stupid. I was like, this is not you guys. You guys are awesome.

[Big Cat]

We're not really YouTubers. Yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

You know, yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

But now I realize that it's allowing me at 41 years old, I'm still driving cars, I'm still having fun. And like, you get a company like Black Rifle and they're like, hey, dude, all we care about is let's bring some veterans and first responders, let's make people's day. Let's bring some guys from Walter Reed that have had some really crappy times, you know, fighting for our freedoms. And we bring them over here and we just have a frickin blast and we have a platform to be able to do it with.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, you could tell there's like a community here. You have like guys all hanging out, you said. It's like, I mean, there's the. Over there, there's, you know, bunk beds and guys are sleeping here. Before X Games, how many people are here, like before X Games training? Because this feels like ground zero for X Games games.

[Travis Pastrana]

So if you're. And now with scooters coming in as well. But like, so Nitro Circus, you know, we kind of started this basically where we started building bigger and bigger ramps. And now X Games is actually starting to adapt a lot of the stuff. But, you know, with Olympics and everything, with BMX and all that stuff, so we are the big air of action sports.

[Zach]

Right.

[Travis Pastrana]

So if you want to do something huge, you want a new ramp built, you want to just test some designs. We have everything from foam pits to airbags. We designed all the landing bags that now pretty much every Olympic training facility has in every country. It's pretty cool to be on that kind of front edge of. I never thought I'd be the safety guy.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

But it's like, okay, we want to go 100ft above ground level and do three backflips. How do we survive?

[Big Cat]

Wait, so are you saying that there is. There's like anyone could come up here and be like, hey, Travis, I'm training for this. I want to build this ramp. There's no ramp too big that you would be like, no way, we can't do it.

[Zach]

It.

[Travis Pastrana]

There's, there's ability level, like, so everyone's like, hey, make sure you wear all your safety gear. Yes, 100%. But there's certain people that you could dress as the The Michelin Man. And you're like, this is a bad idea. I don't care what you're wearing. There's certain people that, you know go out there and like, oh, he was. I mean, not that you do. He was riding without helmet. I'm like, if he's riding around, like. So it's. It's finding the. The people that are qualified for what they're doing, and you get them around other people that are very qualified at what they do. And you kind of come together with this. This eclectic group of mad scientists. ADHD Random Complete. Like, hey, we tried this and this happened. We tried that, and that happened. What if we do this, this, and this? And when you get everyone together, some amazing things happen.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And my greater point is, it seems like in this world that you have created this land you've created, Pastrana Land. Like, no is not the answer. It's all right, let's figure it out, you know, like, let's do it safely.

[Zach]

But.

[Big Cat]

But you're not like, ah, no, we can't do that. Which is such a cool ethos to have around here, where everyone's like, no, let's figure it out.

[Travis Pastrana]

So one of the next things that we're doing, it was really funny. My buddy was at the bar. He was just telling some random story about what he does, and he's like, oh, yeah, we're. We're freestyle tractor drivers. And he goes to me, he's like, hey, have Nate. Nate Wessel, who's like, kind of our main ramp guy, he's like, have him sketch something up for me real quick. So now this is. We're in Utah. It's, I don't know, 11 o' clock at night. It's, you know, one o' clock in the morning back here on the East Coast. Nate wakes up, puts together a sketch, little program, sends it back over. We completely forgot we had even said it, but an hour later, we got a sketch. Now we're actually going to backflip a tractor. Because the sketch was so good. I was looking at it. I'm going over this.

[Big Cat]

I'm like, yeah, no's not an answer.

[Zach]

This.

[Travis Pastrana]

This will work.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

So it's.

[Zach]

It.

[Travis Pastrana]

You just got to be careful what you ask for.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Travis Pastrana]

You know, at the beginning, I'd be like, hey, I want to do this. Everyone's like, yeah, yeah. Now I'm like, hey, I want to do this. And I have overwhelming support, right. So it's like, I need someone to be like a check, you know?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you need Someone to be like, hey, maybe a bad idea.

[Hank]

I heard that there was a dude that came up here one time, and he said, I've got a mind blowing trick that no one's ever thought of. And then you were like, well, okay, what's the trick? And he's like, you got to pay me for the trick. Does that work? That's a great business model. It does work if you just, like, come up with an idea and be like, travis Pastrano will pay me for.

[Big Cat]

For my brain.

[Travis Pastrana]

I guarantee you that if it's possible, like, if there's an idea out there, there's no way that someone hasn't had it before, and there's a reason that it's not being done right. They're the best in the world from, like, in action sports and the brains that come together. So what was really interesting, we had a guy fly over from Europe. He was trying to. On Instagram and on everything. He's hitting everybody up, but he ends up eventually getting onto the radio station here, like, 98 Rock. And they get all. They're. They're like, hey, this guy flew in. He wants to go to Pastrana Land. The guy shows up my mom's house, knocks on the door. So my mom's like, oh, he's. He's got this trick he wants to try. I was like, well, bring him over. So I flew in. We set them all up. We had everything that we wanted. He's like, oh, it's going to be so easy. He's like, I want the automatic front flip ramp. We're like, there it is, Hoss. He's like, that's. That's just a curb at the top of a ramp.

[Zach]

I'm like.

[Travis Pastrana]

He's like, that looks like something I built in my backyard. I'm like, we did build it.

[Zach]

Yeah, right?

[Big Cat]

This is our backyard.

[Travis Pastrana]

So he didn't do it, but that's the.

[Hank]

The.

[Travis Pastrana]

He tried, like, everyone, like, 98 Rocket.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

How'd it go? I'm like, well, he almost got a front flip around. Yeah, like, I thought he was gonna do. I'm like, yeah, he did too.

[Hank]

I would just say, like, take any trick that you already do, but then light yourself on fire while you do it. Yeah, that's like the next level of her thing, right?

[Travis Pastrana]

If you have to light yourself on fire, the trick's not cool enough to start with.

[Big Cat]

Okay, my opinion, what's the trick that, like, eluded you for the longest amount of time that you then hit?

[Travis Pastrana]

So there was a trick. It's a Backflip with a full twist. So pretty simple.

[Big Cat]

Backflipping and then twisting.

[Travis Pastrana]

You do a 360 and the backflip at the same time.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Travis Pastrana]

Now, on paper, on a bicycle, it's ridiculous.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah. So still today, I'm the only person that's ever landed that. And it was to a multiple pile. Doesn't even really count. And I. I broke my foot in the process. It's just. So the motorcycle does first. If you pull as hard as you can backwards, you get a full flip to every half twist.

[Zach]

Okay?

[Travis Pastrana]

So one of my snowboard buddies, he goes, hey, that looks like the start of a double cork 10. I'm like, what? He's like, you just got to go twice as high and twice as far. Do the exact same thing you're doing. And he goes, it'll come right around. So we started doing it on bicycles. Became the first one to do it. I was the first one to land that trick. A double backflip with a full twist on a. On a mountain bike.

[Zach]

Bike.

[Travis Pastrana]

And then the first person to land. Only person still to land on a dirt bike. But the takeoff ramp had to be 35 foot tall. So, like. So he was right. It was Trevor Jacob. He went to end up Olympian snowboarder, but it was. It's cool like that. Mind, he's like, well, you can't do this with that motorcycle. It weighs too much to get the spin. And you get the gyro. But he goes, just. Just keep going. Just go bigger.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Add another flip. It'll be easier. And he was so right.

[Hank]

I also love the rules that you have written downstairs. There were two of them that jumped out to me.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Hank]

And the rules are just. They're in either pencil or Sharpie. They're on, like, a piece of particle board down there. And I think there's seven rules. One of them was don't break stuff. But if you do have it, be on camera.

[Travis Pastrana]

No, no.

[Zach]

If.

[Travis Pastrana]

If you get it on camera, I'll. I'll pay for it. Yeah, no problem.

[Big Cat]

It's a great rule.

[Travis Pastrana]

And I mean, to pay. Hopefully not like, you know.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Something too expensive.

[Big Cat]

You want it to be worth it.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

And then my. I think by far my favorite rule was no sex in the foam pit. And that seemed like a rule that might have been put in there because somebody did have sex in the foam pit one time.

[Travis Pastrana]

Well, so let's just say someone left something used.

[Hank]

Okay.

[Travis Pastrana]

In there.

[Zach]

All right.

[Travis Pastrana]

And it wasn't me, but someone was Upside down in the phone, and they just saw it, and it was just right there. And you're stuck, and you can't move.

[Big Cat]

Oh, no.

[Travis Pastrana]

And it was like, all right, look this. We got to draw a line somewhere, guys.

[Big Cat]

No sex in the foam pit. Wait, so when you were starting out, you won your first gold at 15, right?

[Zach]

Or.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

1999, right?

[Travis Pastrana]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Very good. But you also broke your spine when you were 15 years old. What the. So how did you not quit? Like, you.

[Zach]

You.

[Big Cat]

Your spine. I was listening to an interview. You said your spine basically came out of your.

[Travis Pastrana]

For medically. Technically, yes. That's about what happened.

[Hank]

That seems like that hurts.

[Big Cat]

That seems like you should just chill out.

[Travis Pastrana]

You have your pelvis connect to your spine. It's like. Like this. And it just. So the spine went straight down.

[Zach]

Yeah. So.

[Travis Pastrana]

Shattered my pelvis. I was the third known case not to basically bleed out after having both si joints dislocated. Woke up. You know, basically, I didn't get knocked out, but I kept passing out. So it was good for me because I was. It was my 15th birthday, and I realized that I could only take so much pain. So I have ex. I have experienced as much pain as my mind will allow me to take ache. And I'm still here, so.

[Big Cat]

And it was at 15 years old.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Well, I mean, I guess if you're tougher, you could probably experience more pain, but. Yeah, but my level of threshold.

[Big Cat]

No out. Your spine is a pretty big amount of pain, right?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

So every time I'd wake up, because they couldn't really figure out. They just thought it was shattered pelvis. But the spine was kind of in place when I was laying on the backboard. But every time they tried to move me, it wasn't all the ligaments and stuff. Weren't. Everything that was attached wasn't attached. So I just kept. Every time I move, I pass out. Move, pass out. Hard moment for my mom, but right there was the moment that she always had my back. But from, you know, she's basically crying. I, you know, wake up, come out of surgery. Everything's kind of fused in a wheelchair for the next couple months, and I'm like, man, I hope they keep that jump. I want to do it again. And she just. She was crying. When she started laughing, she's like, all right. The most pain you've ever been in. You're lucky to be alive. Almost bled out. Six blood transfusions, and you're still. The first thing that you think of is not. Not, will I be Able to walk again, but when can I get back on the bike to that jump? And she kind of laughs. She's like, all right, so you really love this.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you're just built different. Like, most people would. Would run away from that pain. You're like, I want to conquer. Did you go back and conquer that jump?

[Travis Pastrana]

No, they took the jump down. Oh, thank God. I really want to do it.

[Big Cat]

Anyway, Wait, so how. How much blood did you lose?

[Travis Pastrana]

So they said, I lost a third of my blood volume over, you know, a couple days.

[Big Cat]

Holy, man.

[Hank]

And I know you've had a bunch of injuries almost, like, every part of your body. Are you getting so, like, used to being hurt that you can tell exactly what's wrong? Like, that's an ACL, like, immediately, so.

[Travis Pastrana]

Well, it's good. I didn't have ACL PCL for about 15 years, and then I got a knee replacement, so it kind of makes sense. But. So I landed. I was doing a bass jump for the start of this gymkhana video we were doing, and I should have just. I. I went. I'm not a great bass jumper. I'm not a great canopy flyer. But it was kind of a layup.

[Hank]

I feel like there's only two kinds of bass jumpers, right? The good.

[Zach]

And then. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Alive and dead.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah. So I hit that middle ground a couple times. So this one I was. I kind of hooked. Turned it in a little bit too low. I was trying to land next to my car. I should have just gone downwind, but I was trying to be cool. I was like, I don't know if I get to jump out of this hotel again, because we got the car all set up, like, everything's there. And I hook turned it in, and I landed. And my dad always said, hey, get up, because it always feels like you're broken, but you don't know till you got. I got up, and I felt everything, like, my whole. Everything crumbled. My pelvis just so I hit the ground, and my stomach started getting super warm. And I had felt that before from the other time we were just talking about. And I was like, oh, I'm bleeding out. So the medic came over, and they're like, are you okay? I'm like, I'm fine, but I shattered my pelvis, and. And I'm bleeding out. And they kind of laughed, and I was like, no, no. Like, I'm good. So I called. Called my wife on the way, because she didn't know I was based. I forgot to mention it. She really Not a huge fan of base jumping.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

And I was like, yeah, so no big deal. You know, I shattered my post and the person's like, the doctors will tell you what you did. So it was funny because when I woke up after, like two surgeries later and had everything, like, basically fused back together and had a. The worst part was the torn urethra.

[Zach]

Oh, gosh.

[Travis Pastrana]

Not. Not ideal, but long story long on this one. So the lady came back in the EMT or whatever that was. There she goes, you were right. You shattered your pelvis.

[Zach]

You.

[Travis Pastrana]

You were bleeding out, had five. But she goes, you also got your tailbone from top to bottom and you broke your back and you tore your urethra. So I was like, well, so I missed a couple.

[Hank]

Yeah, you know, I mean, but yeah, in your defense, like, in a moment like that, you're. You're probably only feeling the part of your body that's in the most pain.

[Zach]

Right.

[Travis Pastrana]

So not get off on another tangent, but I like tangents.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah, it was. So my podcast is for my kid during COVID was, you know, 6 years old, and she was riding a sled down the. The stairs, as you would, and some. The sled turned. She caught her foot on the way down, like, basically face plan at the bottom and grabbed her foot right away. I was like, ah, she broke her foot. And my wife was kind of. She's like, no, she land on her head. I'm like, if you land on your head and you grab any other part of your body. Yeah, that's the part you only feel. You know, you only feel what's broken or what's the worst.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Wait, when was that? How old were you? No, no, the.

[Zach]

The.

[Big Cat]

The Elvis again.

[Travis Pastrana]

So. So that was. Yeah, so that was two years ago, almost three years ago now.

[Big Cat]

And what was the rehab like?

[Travis Pastrana]

So that was the first time. So I had a. Basically a tube in my bladder for peeing, for lack of better. So I was back in a race car in six weeks after that and still had some issues. But that was the first time my life that I realized I was getting old because instead of thinking, I gotta win, I was thinking, don't hit anything. And then. Then I gotta. I got a new knee, I got a new hip. Stem cells in the shoulder started on just some peptides that just help with some tennis elbow. Like, I was. I was at rock bottom. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't. I couldn't compete to the level I wanted to because all I was thinking about was just not getting Hurt.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

And I feel like when you're hurt, it's the hardest time and it's. I took the last year to really get myself. I, I still, you know, I eat too much, I drink too much, I don't work out probably enough, but I'm able to get to the gym every single day, able to get things moving and I'm able to sleep through the night.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

And not to be that guy, but dude, when you can't. When you're hurt too much to sleep through the night and you're hurt too much to actually work out. Like life changes.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

It not only not competitive, but just like mood and everything. Like I need to be active, I need to be pushed myself. I need to be out there. And it's, it was, you know, everyone says how do you do it? My, you know, my uncle was playing for Denver. He said, look, the day you stop moving is the day you die.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So how are you feeling right now? Like walking around day to day.

[Travis Pastrana]

I feel the, the knee replacement. It's, it's not a perfect knee. Like it's. You still notice it. But I can sleep through the night. Doesn't ache or anything. Stupid. The, the hip, dude. Best surgery six weeks after getting hit replacement. I was back, I was doing back those on dirt bikes.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Travis Pastrana]

They've really mastered that where you can.

[Hank]

Walk out of the hospital. You did get a hip replacement.

[Travis Pastrana]

Well, and the knee too. But the knee, just the knife, the pain on that one was, was, was bad for me.

[Big Cat]

How, how cool is it to know like you. Because you were talking at the beginning like your, your dad telling you like, hey, you can do this, but you might always end up back in construction and like, you know, this might not be a life that you can make a lot of money, but you actually did make a lot of money and you were also like the start of it. Is that cool to be like X Games didn't exist for 10 year old Travis.

[Zach]

Right.

[Big Cat]

And then you almost are at the beginning of all that and that wave. Do you feel like pride in how it's all come along because you're a pioneer? Really?

[Travis Pastrana]

No, I mean it's, it's been fun and you know, everyone. There's a lot of different ways to look at it, but I just very fortunate to be this kid, to still feel like this kid that's living my dream, that gets to go out every day and think of fun things to do with my friends and it just gets. The cars get faster, the jumps get bigger, but at the same It's. It's basically just playing in the sandbox when you're like little. Little, you know, little toy cars trying to jump them, except you're now in the car.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Awesome.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Hank]

Is there a stunt or a trick that you've done that has brought you the most joy? Like the biggest rush?

[Travis Pastrana]

I think so. I was already. I was well over my career and I really wanted to do that trick, though. So that unicorn trick, it was the backflip 360. And then it got in my head for like four years and I started working on mountain bikes and everything. And now this is. So we're in my backyard. I've spent so Nitro Circus. They're like, here's the budget. What we think we can do on this. Basically we're just, you know, DVD for lack of. It's, you know, we can make $400,000 on this. That's if it's good, if it's bad, like, it's going to be like, that's just our. Our audience.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

So I spent 1.2 million building ramps for my buddy Sheehan to. To do a triple backflip for another guy to do a quadruple backflip on him BMX bike. And I just. I just wanted to see this. I wanted to see progression with stuff that we had been talking about for a while. So we spent two years. And then that ramp where she hand was doing the triple backflip. I'm like, that's enough air. That's that. I can do it. So we did all of our filming, got everyone else done, and it's just about the end of the, like, it's sun setting, already tired, already exhausted. And the. The ramp was set up and I was like, it's never going to be a more perfect, perfect time. And I go out there, my wife's just shaking her head. She's like, look, you literally are paying to hurt yourself.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

There's. There's 15 of us here. No one wants you to do this. There's not one good reason. There's not one financial. Like, you're old. Just. And I just. I remember. So I. I hate telling the story, but it's been out there, so I'm gonna tell it again. So the first time. So I tried it and I kind of bailed out halfway through. I got lost. I got scared.

[Hank]

Twisties.

[Travis Pastrana]

I got the twisties.

[Hank]

That thing.

[Travis Pastrana]

I mean, I. My. Yeah, yeah, on that. There's three steps you got to take. And on step two, I said, oh, and forgot Step three, completely. I was like, I'm way too high.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

So. So I landed and I didn't knock myself out, but somehow when I opened, I just closed my eyes for a second. When I opened them, someone had in my pants. And. And all my friends were right there. And my wife is shaking her head. She's like, are you done now? Can we just. Can you go home? And I'm like, nope, I got to do it. And she's like, well, you're gonna go change. I'm like, if I go up there to change, I. I'm getting that hot tub. And I'm never doing this trick.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

So I ended up. I crashed two more times on that, and I was able to not somehow not break myself off in that. The snowboarder, Trevor Jacob, he goes, everyone else, like, it won't work, it won't work, it won't work. And Trevor goes, it'll work, but you have to go. No, look, he goes. You keep trying to spot your landing halfway through. You're stopping everything. He goes, it's a 250 pound machine. You got gyro. You got everything. He goes, go blind the whole time. He goes, if you're not willing to do that, like now. And it. I came down. I've never, like, come at a ramp before and gone around it. I went around it like four times.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Whole pant full of poop.

[Big Cat]

Just like.

[Travis Pastrana]

Like everyone just like, don't do it. And you're so. Those are those moments that you're like, okay, why do I ride a dirt bike? Do I ride a dirt bike to get paid? Do I ride a dirt bike, like for fame or pride? Or do I ride to see if I have what it takes to do what I believe can be done? And that was a moment that was really cool for me.

[Hank]

You landed it with in your pants.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then you broke it and you broke your leg on the last one or.

[Travis Pastrana]

No, no, that one. You're good. No, that was the last tried without the second.

[Zach]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Big Cat]

That's so sick.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Sorry.

[Big Cat]

No, I mean, that's a story before.

[Travis Pastrana]

Okay.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

So it was good.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's. I mean, and to do it, it like, I don't know. You're just a badass dude. I actually saw. Wait, I saw. I was watching a YouTube video of Pastrana Land the other day, and I saw a comment that I got to read to you that I thought was so perfect. Travis Pastrana, the most well adjusted, insane person out there, feel like that Sums you up perfectly.

[Travis Pastrana]

I like it.

[Big Cat]

You're well adjusted. Yeah, yeah, I just saw the comment. I was like, that pretty much sums him up.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

So my all time hero, Matt Huffman, like this is a guy before there was any money, before any first one do a 900. He, he tours like blew out his knee and he needed to be ready because he had like video game deal and everything. He was retired at the time, coming back out and he wanted to do a no hand at 900. He's like, this is the last chance I have. So he goes up to Canada, he does full acl. Like they hook all this stuff together. No anesthesia. Because he couldn't legally do that procedure or whatever. Somehow bylaws getting around it. He competes like five days after, get his whole knee redone. He does it, lands a no handed. 900 income, didn't win. He got second to mirror. But like this guy. And so we were out base jamming one day and everyone else is getting close to the edge and he's like, no, I got to have my rig on first. I'm like, you afraid of heights? He's like, no, I'm just afraid I'm gonna jump. I was like, wow. Yeah, that's.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

The calling of the void, right? You see that out there? I might as well go leave sleep. That's insane though, that he had, he had surgery with no anesthesia.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah.

[Hank]

His body, like, that's civil war. Like, here's a stick you can.

[Travis Pastrana]

He goes, yeah. He goes, I wouldn't do it again, but. So for some reason the law was if you get, you can't get put under for any of these procedures. But there was nothing that said you couldn't because no one's, well, that tough.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So what's next for you guys here? What are you working on right now?

[Travis Pastrana]

Honestly, I've just. I'm home about two to three days a week, which, you know, it's good. When I'm home, I can be home, I can be with family. But a lot of that time we're still, you know, we're still doing stuff or we're building up for whatever's coming. My goal is to kind of cut down on, on the sponsor. I still love race and rally. I need that competitive spirit. I need to see who's the best. And when I don't have that, I, I take that in different directions. I become competitive with my wife and that's not, that's not a good thing to do. So, you know, we stay in our own Lane. And she's action sports too. But, you know, she's got the she shed on top of the hill. I got the man cave on the bottom of the hill. And we can kind of come together in the evenings, you know.

[Big Cat]

It's a awesome place. What do the neighbors think of this place?

[Travis Pastrana]

Most of the neighbors are part of it. Like, you've seen just about everyone, like, Danger and all the guy. Like, they're all.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, by the way. But we. You glossed over that there's a guy in Pastrana land who walked by us, and Travis is like, what's up, Danger? And I was like, how do you get that nickname here? Like, he's got to be the most badass guy out here.

[Travis Pastrana]

So short as story as I can make. I didn't. I'm kind of a no new friends guy. Like, I've got all my. Like, I travel. When I come home, I'm a homebody. We just. We get to work here. Work, play, whatever you call it. And my wife, you know, she likes to socialize and kids are getting in school and stuff. And a guy a couple doors down we hadn't met, he's across the road. So not our property that we really need. He had five kids, A couple of them our daughter's age, his wife, they had goats and chickens, you know, fresh eggs, all this stuff. And we go. We call. We go quad riding. And now once a year, like, we get the group together and we're gonna go until the sun comes up and there may be beverages involved in it. You don't want to take people that aren't really, really good at what they do and put them into this environment. Wife's like, oh, just take Jason. No, he would love to go. He could really use it now. I'm like, like. So we put Caleb Moore, who's X Games gold medalist, in the pasture seat. So he brings his ranger down. And so I just. First hill, I'm like, I'm just gonna lose this guy real quick and just drop off a cliff. He gets stuck on the cliff. It's teeter totter. He's like, hey, guys. And he had a handle of water that. That he was also drinking. And so a couple of guys pushed his ranger off the cliff, goes down the thing, hits the stream at the bottom. I thought he was gonna hit the brakes, get stuck in the stream, hits the stream, jumps up, up front end, comes up, hits a tree. Hubert, you met today?

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

The tree comes down, knocks Hubert off his four wheel. He's like, I didn't spill.

[Zach]

Dude.

[Travis Pastrana]

Danger Ranger.

[Big Cat]

That's danger.

[Hank]

You guys ever think about getting. Getting a plane out here and just doing, like, plane jumping and that might be next up.

[I]

I don't.

[Travis Pastrana]

We got too many trees.

[Big Cat]

You got a lot of trees. There's a lot of trees when we were jumping those cars.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

A lot of natural enemy of planes.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Trees. All right, I got a couple last questions for you. This has been awesome, and so thankful that you let us come here.

[Travis Pastrana]

Thanks for coming.

[Zach]

Thank you.

[Big Cat]

Trust me.

[Travis Pastrana]

Thanks for having us.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

How sick are the jackass guys, dude?

[Travis Pastrana]

So much fun. But we had to make a rule, we were around them, that if you come up with an idea, you have to be willing to do it first.

[Big Cat]

Yep, that's a good rule.

[Travis Pastrana]

So we were all hurt.

[Zach]

We were.

[Travis Pastrana]

At the end of season one, Johnny Knoxville. Knoxville, dude. Just. Whenever someone on our crew gets hurt, he's the first one to call. Like, he's like, dude, dude. Good. Good human being. But, yeah. So he's on. And he's like, hey, we need to finish up this final episode. I'm like, dude, we're like, we're broken. He's like, well, we can take, like, three or four days. I'm like, three or four. Like, we're broken. He goes, all right, we're gonna get a bowl. I'm like, no. Like, we're broken. He goes, yeah. You don't have to do anything with the pole. I was like, well. He's like, yeah. I'm like, johnny, if the bull hits us, we get hit by the bull. If it doesn't hit us, we can't use the footage. He goes, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Win, win.

[Travis Pastrana]

Here we go. And we were too afraid to get out there. Jolene tried to go, and she got. She ended up with a broken hip from a buttercup.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

They were riding tandem on it, and the bull and the rider both fell on. On Jolene. She did good. She's tough. So then it was just Knoxville. So he goes out there. He's. The guys were like, hey, this bull, if you run as fast as you can, it always. It doesn't hook you. It'll go straight. So when you feel something, he goes, put your hand behind your butt. When you feel it hit you, lean back. Knoxville got. He went two stories in the air. He had no air awareness at all. If he did, he would. He would have laid on his feet, and prior. He landed on his feet and then his face, and then the bull came back after. But it was great footage.

[Zach]

Yeah. Win, win.

[Travis Pastrana]

Johnny.

[Hank]

Those guys. I mean, yeah, I've respected that about him. He always. It seems like he does. Is the most dangerous stunts in the jackass years.

[Travis Pastrana]

So Knoxville knows what needs to happen for the clip to be successful. He's extremely intelligent, and he'll sit on the sidelines until he realizes that the skit needs something else. And it's scary because it might be bees.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Paintball guns. Yeah. You never know what is gonna. Like. I've never experienced more pain. So. First time we met in Knoxville, it was a tribute to Evil Knievel, Knoxville's huge Evil Knievel fan. He's like, I want to do a backflip. Like, all right, blah, blah. I'm like, just don't. Don't let the bike go in the air. And that's what we're going to find out later if you guys want to try that.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

So I was like, the bike can come back and hit you. Well, Knoxville, we had to jump, push start him because he didn't know how to use a clutch. No, I'm not playing like the world's worst bike rider. So second gear, pinned. He hits the takeoff, blows off the back of the bike. Bike goes straight up, lands on his back. He's okay, but the bike comes down, hits him in the taint, tears his urethra. Oh, so he's got a catheter. For the next six months, we're on a public flight. This is a Southwest flight, right? I'm sleeping, mouth wide open. He has a catheter.

[Hank]

Bags fly free.

[Travis Pastrana]

No, but he's got a catheter. So he's, like, four seats behind me. He has a catheter long enough to reach me and has. Only Knoxville could get away with this. He's got people holding the catheter up, and he's got it aimed straight for my face. And on a Southwest flight, he uses his catheter and pisses on me.

[Zach]

No.

[Big Cat]

No video of it.

[Travis Pastrana]

No, no. This is before this was.

[Zach]

Dude, it's a. Around.

[Travis Pastrana]

Yeah. Everyone's clapping. I was like, this is great.

[Hank]

That's back when Southwest was a real airline.

[Zach]

Oh.

[Hank]

Changed everything.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, jackass. Like. Like we've always said, it's. It's basically the.

[Zach]

The.

[Big Cat]

It's. It's male friendship distilled into a video, and it's obviously chaos, but, like, at the core of it, it's these guys just being like, no, you do this. No, you do this. Just egging each other on.

[Travis Pastrana]

I think that's why it was so successful. And you can. You can see that friendship and the camaraderie and the. The willingness. The guys are actually. I mean, some of the guys were smarter than others, but, like, Knoxville was. He's a good human, a good friend, and someone that. Yeah, I mean, they all knew what they were in for, and they. A lot of them got busted up really bad, but they were super successful because of that friendship. And that's a lot of what we try to create around here is just like, that's what Nitro Circus was really born. And he helped us kind of define, like, what that is.

[Hank]

What was the insurance like on Nitro Circus?

[Travis Pastrana]

That's why we went to Panama a lot. Fantastic. Six pack of beer. Can we set a blob up at the top of your skyscraper?

[Zach]

No problem.

[Travis Pastrana]

Take the elevator.

[Big Cat]

All right, I have one last question. It's a rollback question. Rhobac.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. We did a video with you 10 years ago. Do you remember it at all? It was the worst video. I actually would say. I would argue it's probably the worst video that you've ever been part of.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

I'm sorry.

[Big Cat]

No, no, not your fault.

[Hank]

Our fault.

[Big Cat]

We did. It was barstool. It was. I remember, too. Oh, what's up, dogs? Doggy dogs.

[Zach]

Love it.

[Big Cat]

Dogs showing up.

[Zach]

No, no, the wifey.

[Big Cat]

I remember at the time, it was. It was like a big deal for us because this is barstool, and we're not. You know, we weren't big at the time, and I think we had some ad deal. I think it was something around Nitro Circus where it's like, Travis Pastrana is going to do a video with you. You guys come up with the video. He'll do it with you. Our video was like a tricycle race in New York on a basketball court. It was so bad. Do you remember it all, or did you try to erase it from your memory?

[Travis Pastrana]

I. Vaguely.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I, like, I'm. I'm not joking. It was like, we were so stupid, thinking it was going to be sick. And, like, everything you've described to me, everything I know about you. Thank you for. For entertaining us for an hour. Because I. I'm sorry. I want to apologize for it.

[Zach]

No.

[Big Cat]

And we showed up in costumes.

[Travis Pastrana]

You guys did great.

[Big Cat]

No, we did not do great. It was so bad. We had one guy, Nate. He showed up in, like, a pajama costume, all time picture from it, but. Yeah, I, I don't know. I didn't know if you remembered it all. I think you erased it from memory.

[Zach]

It's good.

[Big Cat]

Good.

[Travis Pastrana]

I really. I, like, I remember meeting you guys.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

I, I, I don't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm, I'm happy you don't remember it.

[Zach]

No, no, no.

[Big Cat]

I'm happy you don't remember.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Dude, it was so bad.

[Hank]

I mean, I feel like we might have made up for it today when you took us around the track.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Send us up the jumps.

[Zach]

How.

[Hank]

How would you say Zach did? Zach? Where's Zach?

[Big Cat]

Oh, he's actually getting ready. Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. Who.

[Hank]

Who did the best?

[Travis Pastrana]

You know, Ollie didn't. Like, I think you guys all had a similar mindset where you're like, you didn't really want to get in.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

But as soon as you committed to getting in, you're like, all right. Like, this is like, we're in. So, like, nobody was. It seemed like everyone had a good time. No one was like, I'm a horrible pastor. I can't do it. But I think that he had the best.

[Big Cat]

Zach didn't know where to put his.

[Travis Pastrana]

Hands because, like, this I was, I was trying hard not to. To laugh. It was like a Ricky Bobby moment.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

Like, because he every. I was like, is he, like, going on a roller coaster you can grab. I was just worried that if we had, like, a, like, like kind of a. His hands were going to, like, smack the walls or somewhere. Yeah, heaven forbid. Like, I don't roll with people in the car unless it's a co driver and we're going for a win. But there's always stuff that can happen.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah, of course.

[Hank]

I was just telling myself, like, if there's one person that's driving me that I would want driving me in the entire world, it's probably you.

[Zach]

Yes.

[Hank]

You're probably the safest guy.

[Travis Pastrana]

Well, I appreciate that. You see, I've got a reputation for crashing, but I'm in stuff all the time. And yes, if there is someone faster than me, I am. I'm convinced that I'm the best driver in the world. If someone's going faster, I'm gonna, like, obviously, I could just do it. And that's usually not the case.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

So I, I have a reputation for crashing, but there's no one here today that's going to go faster, so you guys should be safe.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Nice. Nice. They don't talk about all the times you don't crash.

[Travis Pastrana]

Well, to be fair, Like, I've got one of the best track records, but there's always a camera going. And on a dirt bike, dude, I. You can always make up time. Like if you. There's a whoop section right there. I'm going to shift another gear. I'm going to wheelie as far as this bike will go, and it's going to set down somewhere and it's going to spring up and I'll probably get to the other side. Now you can make up like two seconds. Like the whole field separated by a half second. I can make up two seconds right there. I could be a second slower than everyone else and still win this thing by 15. Like, we're going. So it's that calculated risk. Now when I go, went into a rally, had a co driver, that co driver, had a wife, you know, two kids. And he's like, look, I'm an accountant. He goes, I do rally. I may. I'm going to retire at 50 years old with 50 million in the bank. He goes, I am the collegiate Quiz bowl national champion. I'm a genius. I am getting in this car because we always say this is a life or death deal. He goes, it's bullshit. He goes, winning and losing. He goes, numbers, doesn't matter. He goes, I rally to win. But you have to understand that you have to listen to me. And if at any time you're driving over your head, because I'm going to shut it down if you don't listen. I will not be your co driver anymore. And he taught me so much about. He's like, on this day, I'm like, we. We're in fifth. He's like, I don't care. This is as fast as you can drive, right? I can tell right now. We almost went off that cliff. We almost hit that tree. He's like, you have to slow down. I'm like, but they're going faster. He's like, and we'll learn and we'll live to fight another day, but if we crash today, we're. We're screwed.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

And I know that seems really simple and self explanatory, but there's nothing common about sense. And it took someone sitting in that passenger seat that was kind of my like, you know, just ran it in. There's certain days you're just not going to be the best. There's certain conditions that you're not going to be there.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Travis Pastrana]

And on a dirt bike by myself, with devil on both shoulders. I was like, I got this.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Well, Travis, thank you, man. This has been awesome. We appreciate it. You're. You're the best. You're one of the coolest guys. Yeah, you're a legend. You're one of the coolest guys. You're grit personified and this place is a dream. So congrats on all your success, dude.

[Travis Pastrana]

Thank you for the time, guys.

[Zach]

Really appreciate it.

[Travis Pastrana]

Let's do it. We're doing a flip, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're doing a flip. Let's do a flip.

[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

All right, let's wrap up the show. We can just do for the Monday reading. I just read you a headline that I bookmarked over the weekend because I saw is from our good friends in China. China. Let me find it. I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna find it. Say something. Zach.

[Zach]

We got a.

[Jacob]

What'd you do this weekend?

[I]

This weekend I did a trip out to Target. Made a nice little journey out there. On the way back there, I found there's a 711 around the corner. Grabbed a slurpee. It was just hot enough for the perfect slurp like Slurpee. Made it just to the front door of my apartment complex. The timing couldn't have been better. Was so good, sir.

[Hank]

Did you get A trash can.

[I]

I did not get a trash can, though.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

All right, what'd you get?

[I]

I got some socks and a steak.

[Hank]

That's a great trip.

[Big Cat]

You go to prison?

[I]

No, but it was a great day.

[Hank]

That's awesome.

[I]

Fresh socks, good protein.

[Big Cat]

That's a prison birthday.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I might have had one of those new socks. And steak is definitely what you get for your birthday in prison.

[Hank]

Fun fact.

[Zach]

About.

[Hank]

About Shane's week.

[I]

Great birthday weekend.

[Hank]

Speaking of Slurpees, Shane got three Slurpees on Saturday at three different points in the day.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Zach]

Yeah. I did. Yeah. Why?

[Hank]

He did trip slurp.

[Big Cat]

I hadn't had a slurpee in like 10 plus years.

[Hank]

And for some reason I was just.

[Big Cat]

Wait, what. What flavors? So I got. First Slurpee was at the movies.

[Hank]

I got an icy.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Raspberry icy, which I hadn't had in forever.

[Hank]

That was great.

[Big Cat]

Solid.

[Zach]

What movies you see?

[Big Cat]

Weapons.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Then right after, I needed to get like a toothbrush or something, so I.

[Hank]

Pulled in 711 and I saw the Slurpee machine.

[Big Cat]

You're like, damn.

[Jacob]

I got. It was like a.

[Big Cat]

It was a Mountain Dew, like, pineapple.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

Slurpee.

[Big Cat]

And that was. That was also awesome. And then I got a watermelon margarita, like a frozen marg. So that's basically Slurpee.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And then I got like a snow.

[I]

Cone on the beach.

[Hank]

So this is really.

[Big Cat]

How cold was your tummy?

[Zach]

I don't know.

[Hank]

Pretty cold.

[Big Cat]

Must have been really cold.

[Hank]

Did you look at what color your was?

[Jacob]

I noticed.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

What color was it? Pretty fluorescent.

[Big Cat]

Do they know you at Target?

[I]

Oh, no, no.

[Big Cat]

But you're getting close. Just every weekend. You're like, what? I'm like, what'd you do? Like, I went to Target.

[I]

I'm a self checkout guy. So, you know, you don't have to. There's no interactions really.

[Hank]

What kind of steak I was.

[I]

What's the one? Not the strip, not the filet, but the ribeye. Yes.

[Hank]

Got a ribeye.

[I]

It was the one.

[Hank]

Cooked it up in a pan.

[I]

I did.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[I]

Cast iron pan.

[Big Cat]

Smoky.

[I]

Unfortunately. Yeah. So much smoke.

[Big Cat]

Smoke so much.

[Zach]

And then like.

[I]

So now my entire apartment does smell like snakes.

[Big Cat]

Fire alarm Go. Including your bed. Your bed smell like.

[I]

Say, I had to wash the sheets.

[Zach]

Okay. Yeah.

[Hank]

Did you go to Target in your pajamas?

[Big Cat]

No.

[I]

No pajamas in Target. I did look at the.

[Zach]

I did.

[I]

I happen to be in the aisle checking out some others.

[Hank]

But anyway, some formal ones in case you have to go in the hallway again.

[I]

Yeah, I'm Gonna start going in the hallway and khakis.

[Hank]

And please dress up for the hallway.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right, here's the headline. Stressed adults rely on pacifiers to soothe themselves. I feel a sense of safety from childhood. It's a. I guess a new trend that a bunch of adults are using pacifiers.

[Hank]

Can we play a game?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

A game called Guess. The publication that wrote that headline.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

This feels like a New York Post. Of course. Okay. Yeah. So it's like one guy that might.

[Big Cat]

I think it's like people in China.

[Hank]

Really?

[Zach]

That's a.

[Jacob]

That's a drug thing.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

It is a. Yeah. Molly. They're sold as sleep aids. Some online sellers move thousands each month according to the South. Oh, so maybe it's actually America, but it's. They're obviously making them in China.

[Hank]

That's good.

[Big Cat]

When I'm under pressure at work, I feel a sense of safety from childhood, one Chinese buyer said. So maybe it is China. A doctor in Sichuan.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The trend isn't staying swaddled in China either. Tik Tok is sucking it up, literally, with videos of American adults pacifying themselves in traffic at work or in the throes of a burnout. Whatever happened to just sucking your thumb?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Also, this got to up your teeth, doesn't it? Whatever.

[Memes]

Definitely does.

[Hank]

To just cussing.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It's being like.

[Big Cat]

Or what about just. What about. What about some gum? What happened to gum?

[Hank]

Yeah. I feel like this is one of those trends where it's mostly from people on tick tock that are doing it as a joke for the tick tock views. And then.

[Big Cat]

And now it's like.

[Hank]

I was like, look at the trick. Because the headline is like, millennials. They're sucking on pacifiers.

[Zach]

Yeah. Or how about.

[Big Cat]

How about be a badass and put in a mouth guard?

[Hank]

How about just get into a fight when you're frustrated instead of sucking on a pacifist. Get your rocked about just taking out on your wife and children. Sacred America was awesome.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man. Yeah. So pacifiers, they're the hot thing in the street.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Good show, boys. Great show. We're gonna be enter invitational this week.

[Hank]

Can't wait.

[Big Cat]

That won't come out for a while, but pft. We're excited to go down there.

[Hank]

Can't wait. I'm excited. Been working on the game. What is it about golf that when you really work on one part of your game and you get good at that, that the other parts that used to be good just completely fall apart?

[Big Cat]

I wouldn't know because I've never gotten one part good.

[Hank]

What's up with that, Hank?

[Producer]

Kind of in the same boat. I'm just pretty, pretty bad at most parts now.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's such a lie. You're a good golfer.

[Hank]

You beat me off camera last week.

[Big Cat]

You shoot in the 80s?

[Producer]

Not that often.

[Hank]

Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

You haven't gotten that.

[Hank]

Hank is pretty good now.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Come on, Hank.

[Hank]

Is it a panic move to switch putters like two days before?

[Big Cat]

No, I love that.

[Hank]

A big golf tournament. I love that because I made the move. I switch putters.

[Zach]

Here's the thing.

[Big Cat]

Pft. You got to think about headlines.

[Hank]

I switched putters yesterday.

[Big Cat]

The headline of if you win this tournament, new putter. What happened?

[Hank]

I switched putters.

[Big Cat]

It's going to be. Oh, he actually switched a putter.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Even though his coach was upset at him.

[Hank]

I'm so much better with this other putter, Hank. So much better. Got no feel with the new one. I'm a fuel guy, you know.

[Producer]

Hank, you know, he's good at this new part. It's a mental game.

[Hank]

It's about confidence, right?

[Zach]

Yep.

[Hank]

It's about confidence. I'm more confident in this putter now. If I can just work everything else out, I'll be in a good spot.

[Zach]

Yeah.

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[Big Cat]

Okay, numbers three. You're so proud of yourself.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Hank]

67.

[Big Cat]

What number is Justin Fields?

[Memes]

Seven.

[Big Cat]

He's seven with the Jets. All right, I'll go seven.

[Jacob]

I like 85.

[Memes]

It's a good number.

[Zach]

99.

[Hank]

Put 44.

[Big Cat]

That was Jack. 17.

[Hank]

Slurpee boy. Congrats on your Chargers memes.

[Zach]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Thank you.

[Hank]

Shane. Shane's chargers.

[Travis Pastrana]

Two.

[Zach]

Zero.

[Big Cat]

Hank, what'd you have?

[Hank]

Have 22.

[Big Cat]

What'd you have?

[Zach]

31. 53.

[Big Cat]

53.

[Jacob]

There's a three in there.

[Zach]

Whatever.

[Big Cat]

There's a three in there.

[Hank]

Love you guys.

[Zach]

One day. Me, too.

[Big Cat]

Never.

[Hank]

Never. Not kind of Happy games.

[Zach]

Give up.

[Jacob]

It's been so long.

[Zach]

Yeah. And.