Trevor Lawrence, Mt Rushmore Of Worst Places To Be Violently Hungover, HR Derby Picks And We Get Zac A Date With A Fan

Summary

Podcast Summary: Pardon My Take Episode – July 14, 2025

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Interview with Trevor Lawrence

Timestamp: [73:14] - [90:24]

In this episode, Big Cat and PFT Commenter welcomed Trevor Lawrence, the Jacksonville Jaguars' starting quarterback, for an in-depth interview.

Health and Recovery Trevor discussed his recovery from left shoulder surgery performed in December and the joy of welcoming his daughter on January 4th. He expressed optimism about his health, stating, “Shoulders all healed up, ready to go” ([73:57]).

Team Dynamics and Coaching Trevor highlighted the positive changes within the Jaguars, emphasizing his confidence in the new coaching staff led by Coach Cohen. He remarked, “I really feel good about the situation we're in. I love coach Cohen and the whole staff” ([74:50]).

Performance and Strategy Addressing his transition from college to the NFL, Trevor acknowledged the increased speed and reduced margin for error in professional play. He shared insights on adapting to the NFL’s complexity, saying, “It's like the hardest change, the mental aspect” ([84:35]).

Playoff Comeback Game Reflecting on a remarkable playoff comeback against the Chargers, Trevor detailed the team’s resilience: “We scored every possession” ([92:20]). He credited the defense’s adjustment and the team's ability to “flush it and move on” as key factors in their victory ([93:24]).

Personal Anecdotes Trevor provided a glimpse into his personal life, including interactions with his brother, an artist, and humorous stories about navigating appearances and public perception. He shared, “I wouldn't have talked to you guys” when discussing the aftermath of a significant loss ([107:17]).

Nicknames and Locker Room Culture The conversation took a light-hearted turn when discussing nicknames and locker room dynamics. Trevor expressed interest in cutting his hair to challenge a playful statistic: “I think you're gonna start streaming” ([85:54]).

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Home Run Derby and MLB Draft

Timestamp: [04:02] - [27:05]

Home Run Derby Updates The hosts expressed disappointment over Christian Yelich not competing in the upcoming Home Run Derby. They discussed replacements such as Jazz Chisholm and Matt Olson, both from the Braves, highlighting the competitive spirit of the event. Big Cat humorously noted, “We have Matt Olson, James Wood. It's going to be a great, great Home Run Derby” ([04:49]).

MLB Draft Insights The conversation shifted to the recent MLB Draft, where the Washington Nationals surprised fans by selecting Eli Willits instead of the anticipated pitchers from LSU or Christian Yelich. PFT Commenter analyzed the strategic decision, attributing it to negotiations with agent Scott Boras, stating, “You can put that pelt on your wall, Scott” ([11:48]).

All-Star Game Controversy They delved into the All-Star Game selections, criticizing the late addition of Max Miseryowski over Ranger Suarez. The hosts debated the fairness of the ruling, with Hank emphasizing Rangers' impressive stats: “With three times the amount of starts as Miseryowski” ([08:05]).

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Mount Rushmore: Worst Places to Be Violently Hungover

Timestamp: [46:00] - [70:59]

Big Cat, PFT Commenter, Zach, and Hank collaborated to create a Mount Rushmore of the worst places to be violently hungover. They identified several challenging scenarios:

1. Long Flights

   • Zach recounted, “I was super hungover at my own graduation in college. That was not fun” ([55:35]).

2. Funerals

   • PFT shared a personal story: “I was... on a flight in Hong Kong and we flew all the way to New York non-stop” ([48:59]).

3. Girlfriend’s Parents’ House

   • They humorously discussed the awkwardness of interacting with significant others’ parents while hungover, emphasizing the challenge of maintaining composure.

4. School and Work Environments

   • Hank, a college athlete, described the ordeal of attending practice while recovering from a hangover: “It's the worst feeling ever” ([61:06]).

5. Exercise and Workout Classes

   • They highlighted the difficulty of participating in physical activities like workout classes when feeling unwell, with Zach mentioning, “I was just gonna go full on ESPN for this segment” ([56:03]).

Additional Picks and Honorable Mentions Other notable mentions included being in Disney World, facing road trips with traffic, and enduring child’s birthday parties while hungover. Each scenario was backed by relatable anecdotes and laughter, showcasing the hosts' camaraderie.

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Unboxing and Gaming Segments

Timestamp: [37:00] - [44:49]

Counter-Strike Case Openings Memes introduced a craze surrounding Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (CSGO) case openings, where streamers like Tim "Tapman" and Nadeshot engaged in extensive unboxing sessions. Memes highlighted an unprecedented event where Tim opened 3,200 cases without pulling a gold item, leading to various challenges and community engagement.

Gaming Culture and Streaming The hosts discussed the addictive nature of gaming streams, expressing interest in hosting a World Series of Uno and Call of Duty sessions. They humorously contemplated streaming their own gaming experiences, emphasizing the blend of sports and gaming cultures.

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Interview Highlights and Memorable Moments

Throughout the episode, the hosts maintained their signature humor and banter, often breaking into laughs and playful arguments. Notable quotes include:

• Big Cat on DraftKings Promotion: “Best Ball is the biggest fantasy contest at DraftKings” ([02:42]).

• PFT Commenter on Max Miseryowski: “He puts asses in seats” ([04:46]).

• Hank on MLB Rules: “It was a very stupid rule, but you cannot be replaced by a guy who's pitching on Sunday” ([07:56]).

• Memorable Banter: The playful discussion about Zach's date with Rachel showcased the hosts' chemistry and ability to intertwine personal stories with comedic elements.

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Conclusion: Setting Up Zach’s Date

In the closing segments, the hosts shifted focus to Zach's personal life, discussing a potential date with a Pilates instructor named Rachel. They offered humorous advice and encouragement, blending personal support with their characteristic humor.

Memorable Interaction:

• PFT Commenter: “She looks like a lovely young woman. She looks like she's driven, she's ambitious” ([120:54]).
• Big Cat Encouragement: “Just be yourself, and she's going to be head over here” ([128:07]).

The episode concluded with plans for upcoming content, including interviews and special segments, maintaining the engaging and lively tone that "Pardon My Take" is known for.

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Final Thoughts: This episode of "Pardon My Take" seamlessly blended sports discussions, personal interviews, and humorous anecdotes, providing listeners with an entertaining and insightful experience. From Trevor Lawrence's NFL insights to the candid banter about hangover scenarios, the hosts delivered a comprehensive and engaging podcast that appeals to both sports enthusiasts and casual listeners alike.

Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[PFT]

Damn shame.

[Big Cat]

Real shame. We had Wimbledon final. We had whatever that soccer tournament final was.

[PFT]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

With the MLB draft, we're gonna do who's Back of the Week. We're do the Mount Rushmore of worst places to be when you're violently hungover. And then we're going to get Zach a date at the end of the show and in place for our Monday reading. It's gonna be a Monday Zach responds to a DM on Instagram. So that should be fun. And guess what? It's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. And this is the most fun because now that we're getting closer and closer, we're starting to get some football ad reads. So DraftKings get in the game. Best ball is live at DraftKings. $15 million on the line with real stakes and real excitement. Best Ball is the biggest fantasy contest at DraftKings. We're talking a $15 million guaranteed prize pool with two millionaires being crowned for first and second place play. Season long Fantasy football the Draft Kings way. With Best Ball, there's no waiver wires, no roster management. You get bigger rosters so injuries won't end your season. Just draft your team and you're set. I did a Best Ball league last year. It's so much fun. You essentially just do your entire draft and then you don't have to change your roster at all. Whoever you have. If you say you have three quarterbacks, whoever had the best game is immediate. Is automatically what scores for you that week. The guy gets injured, doesn't matter. You have other guys in front of them. So it's a shot at winning a share of $15 million isn't enough to get you excited. Check this out. DraftKings is offering everyone a draft one get one special. Your $20 entry fee scores you a bonus ticket. So download the DraftKings app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for all customers who enter the NFL Best Ball 15 Million Millionaire contest to get a bonus ticket and get a shot at being crowned one of the two millionaires who only on DraftKing gambling problem.

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[Big Cat]

Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. Download the DraftKings app, use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for all customers who entered the NFL best ball 15 million millionaire contest to get a bonus ticket and get a shot at being crowned one of two millionaires only on DraftKings. Today is Monday, July 14th. I almost said Wednesday. Boys these days kind of run together when we don't have any big sports moments.

[PFT]

But it happens. We can mistake a Tuesday for a Friday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Tuesday for a Friday. We do have the Home Run Derby and last we talked to you, we were finishing up chill week out in Tahoe. So we recorded early in the day on that Thursday and it hadn't finalized who is going to be in the Home Run Derby. It is now finalized. There is no Christian Yellich.

[PFT]

We did it. One more year of keeping our tongues out of each other's buttholes.

[Big Cat]

The sickos and perverts are besides themselves. And when I say sickos and perverts, I'm talking about one memes.

[PFT]

Yep. This is very, very disappointing to you. Memes. Was Jazz Chisholm the last guy that they put in Jazz Chisholm. Then also Olsen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was Acuna who got hurt and then also or no did.

[PFT]

Yeah. Cun is being replaced by Matt Olson.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, by Matt Olson.

[PFT]

Both from the Braves.

[Big Cat]

Yes. We have friends in the show. We have. We have. We have Cal Raleigh.

[PFT]

We have Matt Olson, James Wood. It's going to be a great, great home run dirt. And you know what's great. Is it's good for the sport not to have people associate the home run derby with analingus.

[Big Cat]

Yes, I'd agree. I also have a gift that was given to us that I would like to present to you guys.

[PFT]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Ahead of the home run Derby. Okay. Pretty cool. Cool.

[PFT]

This truly is the best sports weekend of the year that we just went through. It was amazing. Oh, that's a. We got awesome, Hank.

[Big Cat]

Pft. And I got Big dumper signed jerseys. We got to put these up in. Maybe we just put them up in every room.

[PFT]

I love that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So we are going to be rooting for Cal Raleigh, the Big dumper signed jerseys. This one's yours. Pft.

[PFT]

Oh, sweet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Big Dumper. Look at that.

[Big Cat]

Big Dumper memes.

[Hank]

Response in the booth was they should be eating dumpers instead of this.

[Big Cat]

Oh, memes. That's disgusting. That is disgusting. Hank, here's your big dumper.

[PFT]

This is awesome.

[Big Cat]

So we got to put this up in the studio.

[PFT]

I think if big dumper wins memes, you gotta show ass.

[Big Cat]

I just love that he actually signed it. Big dumper.

[PFT]

Yeah, that's great.

[Big Cat]

With an exclamation point. So he's happy to sign it.

[PFT]

This is great.

[Big Cat]

Bumper.

[PFT]

That's good for the sport. We got some bright young stars, but yeah, Big cat. When you were introing the show, I just thought to myself, what a great sports week in this. Oh, we had the soccer thing, the tournament thing. That was on a soccer field.

[Big Cat]

We had still understand it was just.

[PFT]

Clubs, club, club something. We had the world cup of clubs, clubs. We had the baseball draft, which was very exciting.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT]

One thing I will say about baseball fans, though, they understand the assignment when it comes to just straight up booing the commissioner. Yeah, he went out there, he took 32 boos to the face or how I think they went two rounds.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

So he just got booed nonstop. And then.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Just. What a magical weekend. Wimbledon, Wimbledon, which I. I watched three sets of. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It was a great weekend.

[PFT]

Great sports weekend.

[Big Cat]

Great sports weekend.

[PFT]

My favorite weekend of the year.

[Big Cat]

Where do we want to start? I sure do. Are we all going to just bet Cal Raleigh to. The only problem I have with Cal Raleigh in the home run derby is his dad is pitching to him now. His dad was a coach.

[PFT]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

An acclaimed coach. But I always get a little nervous about that.

[PFT]

Harper's dad did that a few years ago.

[Big Cat]

I would rather have be your. I would rather have it be the guy who pitches you batting practice every single day.

[PFT]

Because at some point, if it's your dad. He's going to enter the mindset of, like, I can't let my son just tee off on me like this.

[Big Cat]

Not only that, but I do think that when it's your dad, I think his. I think his brother is catching. So that's very cool. But is it too cool?

[PFT]

It might be. It might. The moment might be too special.

[Big Cat]

It's like, we're here. This is incredible. It's all gravy after that. No, no, Cal. We want you to win this.

[PFT]

But according to the Oedipus con. Was it the complex? The Oedipus complex. You should want to take your dad deep all day.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right.

[PFT]

Like, that should be the thing that every man has inside them. Like, I want to. I want to take my dad yard.

[Big Cat]

So may. That's. That will work. And then I. I think maybe sprinkle a little Matt Olsen, just because. We'll just bet on our friends.

[PFT]

I'm going to sprinkle some James Wood, too. Okay, Woods.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Yeah. So then we have the. Oh, we also had for the All Star Game on Tuesday night, little bit of controversy. Max's Phillies were very upset that there was a late addition from the Milwaukee Brewers. Yeah, Max, you're being a baby about it.

[Hank]

The Miz, he has five career games.

[Big Cat]

And how many strikeouts? Like, a billion.

[Hank]

Way less than Christopher Sanchez and Ranger Suarez.

[Big Cat]

So that's who you're mad about?

[Hank]

Yeah. Christopher Sanchez. Technically, it's a very stupid rule, but you cannot be replaced by a guy who's pitching on Sunday. And, like a MLB All Star rule.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Which is bullshit because the guys should still be recognized. They get bonuses. Like, that's unfair. But Ranger Suarez has a sub 2 era.

[Big Cat]

We know that for a fact.

[Hank]

Yep. For a fact.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

With three times the amount of starts as this misery as this Mizarowski guy. How do you possibly look at that and be like, this guy is more deserving than Ranger Suarez?

[PFT]

I don't know.

[Hank]

It makes no sense.

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[PFT]

I don't.

[Zach]

Same. Pop.

[PFT]

Yeah. I don't think deserving is the right word. I think.

[Hank]

Why? Why? Since when is it. Since when is being deserving not a thing for All Star?

[PFT]

But I'm saying this move is not deserving because you're right. This guy only has, what you said, five starts. He does throw the ball like a million miles an hour.

[Big Cat]

Tune in and try to grow the game. People want to watch it.

[PFT]

Like, this guy throws the ball so fast. So hard. He's had a great start to his Career. Yeah. I'm a Misoryowski guy. I don't even know how to say his name.

[Big Cat]

Not because the brewers are right. They're. They're good.

[PFT]

Again, Misery, business problem, Whatever it is. This guy. This guy's fun to watch, by the way.

[Big Cat]

I just want to say, as a side for anyone who ever thinks that Max is, like, doing some type of bit, I can attest he's not, because he was screaming about Ranger Suarez's era in the pool yesterday when we were hammered and it was, like, way too loud for everyone around. He's like, he has a 194erra. So this is who he is all the time. Yeah, all the time.

[PFT]

But who's going to tune in to watch Ranger Suarez over Misery?

[Big Cat]

Not me. Not me.

[PFT]

Mizrowski is. He puts asses in seats.

[Big Cat]

I don't even think we're tuning in because we're going to be doing our home run Derby.

[PFT]

That's right. But if. If I were to tune in, it would be because of Missouri Rowski.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, dude. He's got a two eight one era. That's pretty good. Five games anti polish.

[Hank]

Suarez has a one nine four in.

[Big Cat]

13 games, 33 strikeouts.

[PFT]

Just.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is. Listen, Max, it's the All Star Game. It's a popularity contest. They're trying to add someone. It's not a vote. So they're like, let's add the guy that will get a pop. That's what they're doing. You can't blame MLB for doing that. They're trying anything to get more eyeballs. They. They want a phenom in there.

[Hank]

And guess five starts is insane.

[Big Cat]

You can just root for him to be bad, and then we can all. And then you'll.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Look.

[Hank]

I now hate this guy. I now want this guy to be the biggest bust in MLB history.

[PFT]

Yeah, they also, in the All Star Game, they're gonna have the automated ball strike system. Oh, okay. So we're gonna get robot umps for the first time.

[Big Cat]

Cool.

[PFT]

All Star Game.

[Big Cat]

Cool. Wait, are the real umps gonna be there?

[PFT]

I think they're gonna be there, but they're gonna use the AI system.

[Big Cat]

Got it. Yeah. All right. So, yeah, that. That's our mlb. And then we. Yeah, we had the draft, the baseball draft, which is always fun because it's like, you draft a guy, and then you have to hope that he'll sign.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So a high schooler and be like, please come take this money.

[PFT]

The Nats had the first overall pick. I think everybody expected they were going to go with a pitcher from lsu or they were going to go with Holiday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And there's another holiday.

[PFT]

They went with neither of the two. In fact, if you had bet on them this morning, I think one of them was like, plus 200. The other was like, plus 300. And the guy that they ended up drafting, Eli Willits, was in the. Any other player category.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT]

After there were like, seven players that they listed.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT]

So then I had to do a crash course on why. I had to learn why in baseball, you don't always draft the best guy if you have the first overall pick.

[Big Cat]

Because you partially need them to be able to sign.

[PFT]

It would help if the Nationals drafted a player who was not represented by Scott Boris, who has just bent them over for the last 10 years repeatedly.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT]

So I think we drafted this guy because we're afraid of Scott Boris and also because we had to. King.

[Big Cat]

State King. Scott Boris King.

[PFT]

Big, big time King.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Like, put that pelt on your wall, Scott. But apparently you draft a player because you have an asset allotment of money that you can give his signing bonuses. So if you take a guy first overall that was projected to go eighth, ninth, or tenth overall, it'll be like, yeah. Then you can pay him less money, less than the $11 million that was slotted. And then you'll have more money later on to entice high school kids to come play for you instead of them saying, no, thanks, I'd rather go to college.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

That's my general understanding of why you don't always take the.

[Big Cat]

Makes sense.

[PFT]

Weird system you got there, baseball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it is a little weird. And there's like 50 rounds.

[PFT]

Yeah. And then I saw who the Phillies got, and the first thing that went through my mind when I saw who the Phillies got, we all thought this was. This was the. How he did it again.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

This is a classic Eagles move. You got. You got one of the best pitchers in baseball that fell to you.

[Big Cat]

And didn't he have, like. Did he have a game in College World Series where he gave up no hits?

[Hank]

Yeah. That was a full. A complete game, no hitter. He had 19 strikeouts.

[PFT]

No hitter. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Correct. Give up no hits.

[Hank]

That is correct. This one player pitched nine innings.

[Big Cat]

It is funny in baseball. It's like, all right, College World Series, no hitter. That's a memorable one. A holiday. The guy who did the Coke celebration at third base. Those are pretty much the stories.

[PFT]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

That's our time. I'll be. Draft recap. It's good. We crushed it. Do you Guys want to talk about Wimbledon?

[PFT]

Sure.

[Big Cat]

1. And he's a cheater. Bullshit.

[PFT]

He's.

[Big Cat]

Djokovic would have won.

[PFT]

People forget that. That center cheated. Got caught.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT]

Got put back in. Alcaraz won the first set, and then. You know what? I'm just gonna go full on ESPN for this segment. Just pretend this is the NBA Finals. Alcaraz needed to step up in the third set.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

He didn't step up.

[Big Cat]

No. He didn't have the heart. I also think that if you take out all. I'm counting this as Djokovic's 25th major, because he played center better than Alcaraz played center, and sinner is a sinner, and he's a cheater. So therefore, ipso facto, Djokovic is the goat. 25th Major Grand Slam championship.

[PFT]

That's incredible.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Don't you agree?

[PFT]

It's fascinating stuff.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Did you guys see the long report about how LeBron is basically being left in the dark by the Lakers? Because it was pretty awesome.

[PFT]

So they told. They told Luca that the team was being sold.

[Big Cat]

There was a couple stories. Yeah. That was the big one.

[PFT]

But they did not tell LeBron.

[Big Cat]

They did not tell LeBron the team was being sold. They also had a meeting after the season ended. That was Polinka, J.J. redick, Luca and Lucas agent. And LeBron was not invited. And it was basically a meeting talking about who they want, who Luca wants to play with. Essentially, LeBron, you no longer get to do these things that you've done for your entire career, which made sense at the time. But I feel like this is heading for. I don't think. I don't think LeBron's playing for the Lakers next year.

[PFT]

This feels like.

[Big Cat]

Not.

[PFT]

It feels like a move that they. They knew that was going to piss LeBron off.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT]

He was going to find out about it.

[Big Cat]

But it also makes sense because they have Luca. They have to start building the team around Luca. Like, LeBron deserves any way that he wants to go out because of what he's done in the NBA and how long he's been, you know, so great. But if you're the Lakers, you can't just. You can't just let him, like, hold you hostage for the last couple years of his career and not try to build a winner around Luca. And he's an expiring contract for the first time in his career this year.

[PFT]

Yeah. And Drake covered up his LeBron tattoo with an SGA tattoo.

[Big Cat]

Really?

[PFT]

You see that?

[Big Cat]

No, I didn't. Yeah.

[PFT]

Used to say it was the the high school jersey that LeBron wore, he covered it up with, like, a shitty SGA thing. It looks terrible, but it also feels like something that Drake did just to piss LeBron.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's a change.

[PFT]

So he's.

[Big Cat]

Well, that's because LeBron danced to Kendrick's Five. Not like us.

[Zach]

You went to the Pop Out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You went to the Pop Out. Wow, what a beef. Great weekend in sports.

[PFT]

Tough offseason.

[Big Cat]

What a. What a great weekend in sports.

[PFT]

If Drake covered up my tattoo on his arm, I'd be like, thank you, Drake.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I appreciate that. But, yeah, it does feel like it's maybe over for LeBron in Los Angeles.

[Zach]

But where?

[PFT]

Cleveland.

[Big Cat]

But where? That's the problem. Where. What if the league retired him? No. I mean, he'll obviously play somewhere. Yeah. I feel like it has to be. It has to be Cleveland. He can't add another jersey.

[PFT]

No.

[Big Cat]

If he does that. That's weird.

[PFT]

Destroy the legacy.

[Big Cat]

It would.

[PFT]

That makes his legacy ratio really bad.

[Big Cat]

Oh, his legacy ratio would be tanked. Yeah. All right. What. What else. What other big stories happened this weekend? Is there something going on with golf?

[PFT]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Pissed about Scott. The Scottish Open.

[PFT]

Scottish Open, Was it.

[Big Cat]

Were people pissed? Golf guy Hank. People were pissed, but the greens or. I just saw, like, Rory was mad, then Scotty was mad. I don't know.

[Zach]

Scotty was missing putts. He had some very funny reactions. Like, he literally had one where he was shaking his fist like.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I think. I think.

[Zach]

I think when. I think when pro golfers play bad, they, you know, they might lash out a little bit.

[PFT]

Yeah. Or amateur golfers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Anything but.

[PFT]

Got her up. One.

[Big Cat]

Good for him.

[PFT]

Got her up. I think he might be. He might be in awl.

[Memes]

Really?

[PFT]

I think he might be.

[Big Cat]

Let's go.

[PFT]

So shout out to. Got her up.

[Big Cat]

Maybe Hit him.

[PFT]

Got her done.

[Big Cat]

Hit him with a dm. Zach, get your DM warmed up before the end of the show when we dm this chick hit up. Got her up right now.

[Memes]

I can do that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And just hit him up and be like, awl, question mark. Just feel how it goes. That'd be devastating if he wasn't. Yeah. There's really no sports going on.

[PFT]

Not a lot of sports going on. There was a Katie Taylor Serrano fight.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT]

Katie Taylor won again.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT]

It was a good fight. They just punched each other in the face for. I don't like the two minute rounds, though. Yeah, I don't like that. It doesn't give you enough time to get in the flow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. There was the jockey race. That was awesome.

[PFT]

Jockey race was great.

[Big Cat]

Do we have the TV? The TV's not even on. I was going to say the jockey race was sick. What was that? Peru Elite. Yeah. Those guys were so slow in this. And, I mean, they're running in, like, if you ever looked. If you ever been on a racetrack, the mud is so much deeper than you realize.

[PFT]

And put their tiny little legs.

[Big Cat]

They're tiny little legs.

[PFT]

It was the most adorable race.

[Big Cat]

We need to have that all the time. Time. Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT]

I would like to see them try to eat a hot dog and run 100 yards.

[Big Cat]

O. When's that video coming out?

[PFT]

I don't know.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT]

We did do that out in Tahoe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And we. We crushed it. All right. We got anything else? This is. It's. We're. This is. This is. This. This is the worst week in sports.

[Zach]

I wonder who's back.

[Big Cat]

Should we just go to who's Sports?

[PFT]

We can just.

[Big Cat]

We're going to do a great Mount Rushmore. I. I will say, too, Trevor Lawrence is the man. I think we found that out. Like, he. Whenever we interview someone we haven't interacted with before, we're always a little nervous. Like, does he get it? He got it. And he's the man.

[PFT]

He is the man. Oh. At the actual Tahoe, the American Century Championship, we had Pavelski.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Badger.

[PFT]

Former San Jose Shark Badger. Pavelski won. John Smoltz, I think, came in second place. Taylor Twallman.

[Zach]

Jake Owen was battling.

[Big Cat]

Rich Eisen came in last for men. Yep.

[PFT]

Marty Fish came in, what, like, top 10? I think top 10, 54 points. Charles Barkley played well on Friday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he did.

[PFT]

Like, I think he shot, what, a 37 or a 38 on the front nine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's. It's a very fun tournament.

[PFT]

Rob Mack did not beat Charles Barkley.

[Zach]

I'm close.

[PFT]

Not even close.

[Big Cat]

We. We. Tao is the best. It's not real life. No, it's. It's not. It's just not real life.

[Zach]

It's not even seeing it on tv. I was watching the tournament today, and I was like, watching on TV doesn't do justice. How preposterous of a place that is.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Zach]

Like, you can see it on tv and you're still, like, if you're there, it's. You feel like you're in a different planet.

[Big Cat]

Max and I went to on a boat on Saturday, and we found a. Like, a lagoon that had essentially looked like you were in the Caribbean. That's how clear the water was, actually. Oh, we could talk about that, Max, once he gets figured out. We have a question for you guys. All right, go. Just get out of here. Get out of here.

[Zach]

Scram.

[Big Cat]

Scram. Beat it. All right, so here's a question before we do the. Who's back in Mount Rushmore? Have you guys. Max is the worst. He's worst. He was screaming about ranger swords in the bar, and there was, like, kids around.

[PFT]

That's. That's really what the.

[Big Cat]

Dude.

[PFT]

Really inappropriate.

[Big Cat]

Has a 1.94 ERA. Have you guys ever seen. And this is maybe going to make Max and I seem like. Not boat guys, and I'm fine with that. Have you guys ever seen a grill on a boat? Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT]

Fuck Akon.

[Big Cat]

All the time.

[PFT]

No, I think I've seen it precisely one time.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right. So it's not.

[PFT]

It's.

[Big Cat]

It's pretty rare.

[Zach]

Yeah, I've seen it a couple times.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

There's boats that come kind of with. It's not set up all the time, but you can.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they did the whole thing. So we were in this beautiful Tahoe lagoon having a great day, and Max and I. And it was like a bunch of us, and Max and I were just locked in on watching another man grill. And we were like, to the point where all the women on the boat were like, dude, what are you guys looking at? We're like. We're looking at this grill. Like, what? He's grilling steak. He's doing it to the point where I got drunk enough that I just jumped in the water and I swam over and I complimented their grill, and they just started feeding me food, just.

[PFT]

Tossing in the, like.

[Zach]

Oh, it wasn't your boat.

[Big Cat]

No. Oh, no. It was another guy who's parked next to us.

[PFT]

Like. You were a walrus.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT]

Came up 100%.

[Big Cat]

I didn't get out of the water. They were just. Max watched this whole thing. Yeah. They're putting the food. They're my best friends.

[Hank]

I was mesmerized by the. By the grill. It had, like, a little stick that you, like, twisted into this attachment on the boat outboard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And it just looked like a little tailgate. Tailgate. Well, tailgate grill. Yeah, that. I mean, there was some great smoke coming out of there.

[Big Cat]

Smoke.

[Hank]

We had fragrances coming from across the.

[Big Cat]

Lake, and it wasn't like, hot dogs. And, you know, it was steak.

[Zach]

Max was like Pepe Le Pew on the boat, dude.

[Hank]

There was a lot of women that were Also on that boat. And me and Big Cat just couldn't stop looking at the grill.

[Big Cat]

They were booty shaking. We're like. We don't even notice these women. It's the grill. I just want to say that's probably the height of coolness, is parking a boat in a lagoon and busting out a grill and cooking steaks.

[PFT]

It's a strong move. And I think most boats don't have it because you can't have a fire on a boat, Right? Boat catches fire. You're.

[Big Cat]

You have the little propane, and it was so cool. It was so cool. And like I said, I went over and I. I just. I. I was being honest, like, I love you guys. Yeah. No, I said I was gonna go over like a seal, and I was like, I love your guys grilled. Like, you guys want some food? I was like, yes, I do.

[Hank]

And then you just started throwing meat into the water. Because I was just catching it.

[Big Cat]

And then I almost drowned because I was. I was very drunk, and I was trying to chew while swimming. Not a great combo.

[PFT]

No.

[Big Cat]

All right. That was. That was. That was pretty much the biggest Sports Weekend story. There was the guy with the grill who didn't recognize us, so he's not even going to hear this, but you. That guy rocks. It's just the height. I don't know how you can get better than that.

[PFT]

That's a good boat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

That's a great feature to have.

[Big Cat]

Great boat. I still don't really understand how it works. Still kind of blows my mind.

[PFT]

I also don't understand why more boats don't have grills. Because you're surrounded by water. So if it does catch fire, okay, you got water.

[Big Cat]

It's also. You never have to get off your boat if you have a grill. Yeah. You have everything there. Yeah.

[PFT]

Live at sea.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He was like. He was. He was doing a great job chefing it up, and he was just washing his hands in the water in between each course, so. All right, that was a boring story, but I really. There was not a lot of sports.

[PFT]

I watched. I watched another documentary about the Titan sub guy.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah? Which one?

[PFT]

I'm starting to come around on that guy.

[Big Cat]

Listen, he had a vision.

[PFT]

He had a vision he was going to do it, and he just said, fuck it. And then he knew that the sub wasn't going to work, but he also didn't want to ask his investors for more money. And he was like, fuck it. I'm just going down.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I don't know if I only Watch one of the two, I think that are out there. But I think the moment when everyone in his company was like, hey, this is a really bad idea. And then he's like, all right, well, you just don't work for me anymore. That was, was like, this guy kind of rocks.

[PFT]

Anybody that would say, hey, you know that giant crack that we just heard? I think maybe we should look at the hull and see if it's still operable. He goes, you just don't have an explorer mentality.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, he just fired. He just fired everyone who had. Who, who thought of a little bit of health and safety.

[PFT]

Yeah. You're not dts. You're not down to sub.

[Big Cat]

You're out of here.

[PFT]

Also the fact that he named it the Titan and then went to the Titanic and then they asked him on the cbs, by the way, here's, here's how, you know how badly things got up with Belichick. CBS Sunday Morning thing.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT]

They interviewed this guy.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT]

On CBS Sunday Morning. And they asked like all the relevant questions about safety. And the guy was like, yeah, you know, I, I do see some irony in the fact that we're taking it on a mission to see a ship that they said God himself could not sink and then it sank. But I'm telling you this, the sub got himself actually couldn't see this one.

[Big Cat]

Not only that, the guy, the CBS guy got on the sub. Yeah. He went down with him.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's crazy. You're. You're absolutely right. That Jordan is actually. Yeah, she's. She's better than the Titanic.

[PFT]

She's better than.

[Big Cat]

For sure. Way better than the Titanic. Right, Hank?

[Zach]

Way better.

[Big Cat]

Way better than Titanic. Okay, let's do who's Back of the Week. Then we'll do our Mount Rushmore. Then we have an awesome interview with Trevor Lawrence before we get to who's back of the week. Game Time. There's nothing like getting to a baseball game, especially last minute. Lucky for me, I always use Game Time, the official ticketing partner barstool sports. Game Time makes getting tickets faster and easier Price on the app actually go down the closer it gets to showtime. They even get exclusive zone deals. You let them choose your seats within a given set of zones and you get huge savings in return. You can put those savings back in your pocket and spend them at the ballpark on a hot dog, a new hat, or some good old fashioned cracker Jack. If you're in Chicago, you can get 10% off zone deals for the Cubs at Home on Sunday, July 20, versus the Red Sox. Just look for zones 29 through 32 on the GameTime app. Take the guesswork out of buying tickets with Game time. Download the GameTime app, create an account, use code PMT for $20 off your first purchase terms. Apply again, create an account and redeem code PMT for $20 off. Download the game Time app today. What time is it? Game time. Who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends at Truly. Truly Unruly is the high Al card seltzer that drinks light parties hard. Truly Unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules with 8% ABV. It hits hard but still tastes amazing. Comes in four fresh flavors. Tropical Twists, Berry Blast, Citrus Crush, Strawberry Smash. The Truly hard seltzer taste you love, the high elk unruliness you're looking for. It's the official hard seltzer. Pardon my take, get unruly. We were getting unruly in Tahoe. Strawberry Smash, my personal favorite. So Truly Hard seltzer taste you love, the high alkaliness you're looking for. The 8% ABV. 100% delicious. It's the official hard seltzer. Pardon my take, get unruly with Truly today. Okay, Henry. Who's back of the week?

[Zach]

I was back of the week is Derek Lewis.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

UFC fight Saturday night. I was on a bachelor party. So it was like, you know, the last fight of the night. Big underdog Derrick Lewis. Most electric press conferences. TKOed him in the first round. Big underdog. And then, I mean, we, we ended up watching all of his, all of his greatest hits of. Of post game interviews. Like he's, he's one of the funniest hot balls. Yeah, but he was, he had, he was on the phone with Trump right away, like right before Rogan interviewed him. And then he got off. He said what Trump saying? He goes, you were saying this hoe.

[Big Cat]

Dude, he's electric.

[Zach]

So funny.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So, so funny. You watched the whole UFC card? Yeah.

[PFT]

How's the bachelor? Give us the whole.

[Big Cat]

Give us a whole recap.

[Zach]

Bachelor party was good. I lost every, every bet until that one.

[Big Cat]

Horse racing is tough. You're in Saratoga.

[Zach]

Well, no, horse racing with horse. I'm talking about the UFC UFC card. I mean, horse racing and UFC fight betting is pretty similar. Yeah, horse racing, you just kind of hope. Yeah, yeah, just hit it and hope.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, hit it and hope.

[Zach]

Horse racing. I mean, Saratoga is great. It's bachelor party. It's a, it's a perfect place for a bachelor party. Feels very old school.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Zach]

Just go in tailgate, bring coolers, go in and out. Great time.

[Big Cat]

It's a great place because it's. Saratoga and Lexington are the two places you go when you know there's a horse weekend, because you'll, like, be in line for coffee and people will be talking about the races. Like, it. It takes over the town. That's what I love about it.

[PFT]

I feel like that's where old football coaches go when they retire.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT]

It's like I'm just going to go track every single day.

[Big Cat]

Wait, so what. Give us the recap of the UFC card. This is our re. These are UFC expert Henry Lockwood.

[Zach]

That was really the notable wise. Like, I'm trying to. Trying to, you know, go through my memories. There wasn't much else other than I was losing every fight.

[Big Cat]

Okay, okay. Any other big knockouts? Any other big story lines?

[Zach]

They kept showing the commercial for Max Holloway next week, and I was like, oh, is this coming up tonight?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And I was like, no, that's next week.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

I'm excited for that fight, though.

[Big Cat]

But also, you're hooked.

[PFT]

Who's he fighting?

[Zach]

Covington.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

Kobe Covington.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Zach]

Who's the guy that was at beer games? Poirier.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Dustin Poirier is the man. Yeah.

[Zach]

Okay, so it was Max Holloway.

[Big Cat]

So that. So. So you're in for next week. So will we have a recap on next Monday's show? Yes, 100%.

[Hank]

Michael Chandler was the one who was at beer games.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Got it. Oh, Michael Chandler.

[Hank]

But is he fighting Michael Chandler or is he fighting Dustin?

[PFT]

He's fighting Poirier.

[Big Cat]

He's fighting Poirier. Poirier is also the man, L.A. guy. Yeah.

[PFT]

Is your recap next weekend gonna be just as good as this one?

[Zach]

Probably.

[Big Cat]

Probably.

[Zach]

Maybe.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Maybe worse.

[Big Cat]

Well, the big recap was. You saw a commercial.

[Zach]

No, Derrick Lewis was.

[Big Cat]

Derek Lewis was the recap.

[PFT]

The recap was he gives great press conferences. And then I watched all his press conferences, which is. Yeah, that's. That's a great recap.

[Big Cat]

Oh, good job, Hank. You are now. I. I think Hank Henry Lockwood, UFC expert, would be a good golf guy. Ufc, You're a niche sport guy.

[PFT]

Well, because UFC fans are going to get so mad.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Well, golf guys get mad, too, so it's perfect. We'll just get you in those. Maybe wnba. We'll throw WNBA in there.

[Zach]

I don't know about that.

[PFT]

Oh, I got that one on lockdown.

[Big Cat]

You have some takes on that.

[Zach]

No, I don't want to have takes on that.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Trevor Lawrence]

All right.

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[Zach]

I want. I like my job.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right. Pft. Your who's back of the week?

[PFT]

My who's back of the week is Uno.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT]

Uno is back. The card game. So apparently one casino in Vegas is going to be bringing UNO to their card tables.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT]

So they're gonna have three different versions. They're gonna have UNO Golf, they're gonna have UNO teams where you play teams of two, and then UNO show them no mercy, which is a bunch of cards. And you win by getting rid of all your cards or by knocking all the other players off the table. But it's going to be a thing called Uno Social Clubs, which is going to be awesome because I feel like there are going to be people that go to Vegas that have never played the standard table games.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

That go to Uno and they just absolutely dominate. There are going to be some rookies that dominate.

[Big Cat]

Here's my only question, and I can't say I've played Uno a lot recently, but is it one of those games, kind of like Monopoly, where if you played by the actual rules, it would just take forever?

[PFT]

It can take a long time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I hate those because, like, I. Have you guys ever had that moment where you've had. You've had to play Monopoly with someone who actually plays by all the rules and it literally will never end.

[Hank]

It's not nearly as bad as.

[Big Cat]

Right. But it's.

[Hank]

Monopoly can take like days. Days.

[Big Cat]

Uno also, I think.

[Hank]

No, I don't think Uno can take longer than like 30 minutes.

[PFT]

Even if you play by all the rules, it's. It's still a manageable game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. We should.

[PFT]

We should do a live stream of uno. Like the World Series of Poker. World Series of uno.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

I bet people would watch that.

[Big Cat]

That was my, my who's back of the week was World Series of Poker because I don't know if you guys saw, but I don't understand the poker world, but I do like anyone who's causing a ruckus. And this guy, William Cassif, I believe is his name, the British guy. Have you seen any of these clips? He essentially just. He got. He got banned from all World Series of Poker events for the rest of the year.

[PFT]

That rocks.

[Big Cat]

He finished 33rd. I think he won like $300,000. But there was like this big controversy of guys calling clock on him and he was talking shit to people. He got. He also got a penalty for calling a guy a bitch. I mean, on.

[PFT]

That's cool.

[Big Cat]

But this is a problem. I. From everything I've read, and I'll. This is kind of like Hank's UFC. I read maybe eight to 10 tweets, so I'm pretty much an expert. I feel like the World Series Poker is going to do the opposite thing that they should do. They should embrace this guy, because these type of people. And like, the. Phil Hellmuth, like, the. Or who is the guy? Matasau. Was that the guy who would. Who'd yell at people?

[PFT]

Hellmuth was annoying.

[Big Cat]

Helmut Hellmuth is knowing. I think Mike. Mike the mouth. Mike Mouth, Madison, whatever. This is old school poker talk. But you need personalities. You need people that are aggravating. You don't need people who are robots who are playing by an algorithm and just going through it. And he's British, and at least he plays hands.

[PFT]

He just doesn't turn in all his hands.

[Big Cat]

He. He. Well, so this is the other thing. He. He didn't show up. He showed up an hour late the last two days. And people were like, why would you do that? Because he's just giving away big blinds. He's like. He's like, I wanted to get sleep. I'd only slept two hours. And he's like, I just got a better payout because I just gave. I gave a little donation. And then when I showed up, I was like, a few people were eliminated, and I had a. I was higher up in the standings. So. He's. He's a bad boy.

[PFT]

I like that. Poker needs a bad boy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And he was arguing with. I guess. Yeah. You can call clock on someone, and then if you get the clock called on you, you get a strike. And then if you get like a couple strikes, the clock then becomes 10 seconds as you have a time to make a decision.

[PFT]

I think.

[Big Cat]

Crazy. That's preposterous.

[PFT]

This is one of those things where if one guy does it, it's good to have a bad boy. But if everybody played by that same standard, then it would just completely suck.

[Big Cat]

But there are. He is, from everything I've read, again, eight to 10 tweets, kind of an expert. He's the only one. Everyone else is a robot algorithm who plays the Minsys? Yeah, they fold everything. They only play the hands that are, like, statistically guaranteed. It's not poker. I want to watch. I want to watch some swagger. I want to watch some bluffing. I want to watch some table talk, some shit talking.

[PFT]

I missed the World Series of Poker back in the day when they had the guy that just Wore the reptile glasses.

[Big Cat]

Moneymaker. No, Fossil.

[PFT]

Fossil man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT]

Just rock the reptile glasses at the table.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Fossil man was awesome. One of those guys, Moneymaker, one of them did something. Well, not me. They didn't.

[PFT]

I.

[Big Cat]

Either way, I think I stand with this guy because I saw enough positive. Hey, he's not doing anything wrong. There's a couple negative, but I just ignored those.

[PFT]

Cassif.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Is his name William Cassidy? He's British guy. Yeah.

[PFT]

I say free Cassif.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He hadn't slept at all. He was going to. He. They even said that. They're like, haven't you slept, like four hours in the last three days? And like, do you really think that you should be trying to make these arguments with the casino staff? And he's like, listen to me. I'm locked in as I could ever be. Just going a mile a minute.

[PFT]

I'm going.

[Big Cat]

Think he might have been having, like, a little bit of a breakdown, but that made it interesting.

[PFT]

I am not. I'm going to boycott the rest of the World Series of Poker this year.

[Big Cat]

And all the satellite tournaments, and I.

[PFT]

Would have watched every single second of it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

When is it over?

[Big Cat]

Never.

[PFT]

Is it still going on still?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

All of July.

[PFT]

Let me see. Okay.

[Big Cat]

World Series of Poker.

[PFT]

I'm implementing a self boycott.

[Big Cat]

All right, hold on. I'm gonna tell you how many people we got left, because then they just sit there and they just. They fold and they fold and they fold and they fold. All right, filibuster real quick while I find this.

[PFT]

I wonder if Phil Ivey's in. Is he still in? Does he play?

[Big Cat]

Oh, he's out. Oh, Ethan. One man. Yeah, yeah. One month trial. Ethan outlasted him.

[PFT]

That's nice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Payout calculator. This is their website.

[PFT]

Okay. No, I'm. This is part of my boycott. Two BBs.

[Zach]

Queen, Jack, King.

[Big Cat]

Who? What? I don't know.

[Zach]

I just. I enjoy. I don't follow poker at all, but I got river seeing when our people work there and they do these breakdowns of their hands, which make no sense to me.

[PFT]

He got rivered sounds, but it's very.

[Zach]

Funny just hearing poker guys do poker talk and it's like, yeah, you know, I had a good hand, but then I got two BBs versus six and a queen, and river flushed me out.

[PFT]

Oh, sounds like he caught the turn.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Like that. Yeah, that was part of it. He got. He lost on a bad hand, I think. I don't.

[PFT]

I. I actually think that hearing people describe their poker beats might Be more boring than hearing people describe their dreams.

[Big Cat]

Oh yeah. What about But I want about some.

[Zach]

Reason I can't get enough of it.

[Big Cat]

What about someone describing shot by shot their hole?

[PFT]

That's a pretty bad one. That's.

[Zach]

I love that stuff.

[PFT]

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Unless you've played that course.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT]

Because then you.

[Big Cat]

Then you get to be visualized.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No yeah.

[PFT]

Then you respond with well when I was that whole. I remember that tree.

[Zach]

That was a great par.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. I can't find whatever. It's still going on and it's going to go on forever and it's never going to end. But Free William cassette.

[PFT]

Sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Zach, your who's back of the week.

[Memes]

My who's back of the week is going to be counter strike cases specifically opening them.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Memes]

After a couple of weeks ago nature Tim Tapman win about 3,200 cases in a row without pulling a gold item. So they decided okay, what we'll do.

[Zach]

Is what money is that?

[Big Cat]

This is always. I love your who's backs because I'm. I try to take in as much but I have already have a million follow up questions. But keep going.

[PFT]

From my understanding from what you've said already it sounds like something happened to Tim the tap man that made him look like a loser.

[Memes]

So this is no. No loser activity. These are all big winner activities. Well, great activity, fun activities, good activities with the boys. So on a redemption arc Nadeshot Tim and Tapman Oni Pixel XQC Aero CS3 Sparkles and TDMH. Jesus. That's the sixth man who competed in it. I did free. I did mostly watch a Nadeshot stream but they went CSGO case unboxings 59 $590,000 in cases they unboxed.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Memes]

Unprecedented territory is what we're approaching.

[Big Cat]

What is it unboxing?

[Zach]

It's card breaking but a video game.

[Big Cat]

What do you mean?

[Zach]

So you it's basically buying a pack of cards via inside inside of a game and just called cases.

[PFT]

Sounds like a Lucrat hobby.

[Big Cat]

And then what do you do when you get one that's good.

[Memes]

So the thing is there's a marketplace. So in these cases you're looking for. So there's different. Different levels. Right. So like white, light blue, blue, purple, pink, red, gold. Like on a scale.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

And then also there is like where like the wear of the item comes into play. So like factory new or like heavily worn.

[Big Cat]

These are in the game.

[Memes]

These are skins in game. Yes.

[PFT]

One that's not necessarily meant. Do you send it off to get graded. Or it tells you.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Memes]

It tells you. There's a decimal point system where it tells you how heavily worn this item is. Usually you want to go for the least worn. Want to go factory new. But sometimes when they're really worn, they start to change colors. It's a whole thing. It gets a little vast.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT]

When I said loser about Tim to tap me, I should probably rephrase. I liked him a lot, but he is. It's very funny when he's doing something and then he gets sad. I think it's kind of like people that watch us when our teams lose. Like watching the Dallas Cowboys and Tim the tap man lose a game. It's kind of funny.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. By the way, just as a quick break update, two dozen players are left in the World Series of Poker. Okay. And that update came from Zach, who has a mic in front of him but texted me.

[Memes]

That was a wrong call.

[Big Cat]

My computer just popped up, said two dozen players are left. And I had to think, what are we talking? Oh, yeah. Well, all right, back to this.

[Memes]

But to. But on the Tim and Tatman note there, he did pull the best item of the unboxing. He pulled a sticker worth $26,000.

[Big Cat]

Wow. So this. So. All right, dumb it down for me. Very famous streamer. Guys unboxing cards inside of a game. Failed a lot, lost a lot of money, then got one awesome card.

[Memes]

They got. So they did end up losing quite a bit of money, about 80% of the return. But it was awesome just because it was the biggest case opening of all time. And it was like. It's more so about the journey.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Memes]

It's about watching the ebb and flow of the case openings. It was pretty sweet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So how long was the case opening?

[Memes]

This one I think went for like 10 or 11 hours.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wow.

[Memes]

I believe so.

[Big Cat]

And they're just doing it rapid fire, just ripping cases.

[Memes]

One guy goes about an hour, another guy goes, we're looking for golds. We're looking for a case, aka K. AK, please.

[PFT]

What's an AK?

[Memes]

AK 47.

[Big Cat]

It's a.

[Zach]

What about the knife? I thought the knifes are good too.

[Memes]

Yes. If you pull a gold, you can get a gloves or knives. Nice little cran bit action. There's quite a few knives that go. And these. It does sound. I see where you're coming from, but like these. A lot of these skins can go for like hundreds of thousands, if not like millions of dollars.

[Big Cat]

No, I'm not judging this. I'm More trying to follow along.

[Memes]

And it is. They are skins.

[Zach]

But the video game card break.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, even.

[PFT]

Do you know what the. The most valuable thing ever pulled out of one of these packs was?

[Memes]

I don't know off top of my head what it was. But I do know is roughly around $1.2 million. In my research earlier. I am new to skins as well. I just enjoy watching the streams of the case openings.

[PFT]

Got it.

[Memes]

And they broke the. It's fictitious record. But it's the biggest case opening ever.

[Big Cat]

World record.

[PFT]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

Okay. That. So who's. Who's back?

[Memes]

I would say Nadeshot's back because he went 3200 cases without. Without getting any golds.

[Zach]

And then you got the lottery ball.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Got it. People have been people in the wild. Listen, we need more people in the wild asking us about memes lottery ball. Because that was fun.

[PFT]

It's kind of crazy.

[Big Cat]

There was a lot of people asking will he ever get it? All right, good. Who's back? What memes did you. Did you appreciate that means people care. Yeah.

[PFT]

Appreciate it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Don't get mad at it at all.

[PFT]

Are you going to be taking their advice?

[Big Cat]

I do.

[PFT]

I. I do take some people's advice.

[Big Cat]

Did anyone give you a number? No. No.

[PFT]

Numbers. People DM me numbers. So what was their advice if they didn't give you numbers?

[Memes]

Just get it.

[Big Cat]

Pretty good advice.

[PFT]

Just pick the right number memes.

[Big Cat]

That's really good.

[PFT]

Really not that hard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Mainly people just DM it. Just think, what would Nadeshot do? He lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Is that correct?

[Memes]

He lost several tens of thousands of dollars.

[Big Cat]

Thousands of dollars then. But the journey got him to the point where he got the sickest skin case.

[Memes]

He didn't get the sickest. He was just there for the biggest unboxing. So he did spend about.

[Big Cat]

So Nate shot. If we're doing the same, it's just like Hank got it.

[Zach]

He lost a bunch of money on blackjack table. But then you got to watch me win a bunch of money.

[Big Cat]

I got it. Okay. Yeah.

[Zach]

Which is probably fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

That's a great feeling.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that does. That's what we've.

[Zach]

When you lose a lot and then you watch one of your friends win, you're like, yeah, sick.

[PFT]

But again, that's. That's his job though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. People are watching it and hanging with the boys.

[Memes]

All with the boys. He did spend roughly around $95,000 and made back 9, 300.

[PFT]

Okay.

[Memes]

But he's with the boys.

[Big Cat]

He's with the boys. When Are you gonna start streaming?

[Memes]

I don't have the. I rent a lot dead air. I don't have the capability of constant. You know, does that make sense? Is that talking? Yes.

[Big Cat]

We get you going. Yeah. I think you're gonna start streaming.

[PFT]

I think there'll be good chat.

[Big Cat]

I think we're gonna start you supportive chat.

[Hank]

I've been. I've been telling him since he started on PMT that we got to get him stream.

[Big Cat]

We're gonna get you.

[Hank]

We're gonna play the Marvel Rivals.

[Big Cat]

You know what? Maybe, Zach, maybe we'll do is we'll. We'll play some college football. You can play with me, and then you could see that it's really not hard to stream.

[Memes]

I appreciate the invitation. I think that could be fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You get your feet wet. It's not. It's. I mean, the chat's going to be ruthless, but who cares?

[Hank]

No, the chat will. The chat will fucking love.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but you know how it will happen.

[Hank]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Memes]

It flips so quick, Max. It flips.

[Hank]

No, no.

[Memes]

You know. You know that.

[Hank]

You know, though, the chat is going.

[PFT]

To love you, Zach. What are you talking. What are your top three video games?

[Big Cat]

Games?

[Memes]

All time. Probably Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 2, Call of Duty, Black Ops 2, and then I'm gonna go a pandemic War Zone with my three rounded out.

[PFT]

Okay, which one of those would be best to stream Call of Duty?

[Hank]

Marvel Rivals.

[PFT]

Warzone.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Marvel Rival Rivals.

[Hank]

The Rivals is already a thing.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I want to get Sharknado up all up in your ass.

[Memes]

I also heard that Memes is great at college football as well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Great at Call of Duty, too.

[Memes]

Hanks in the COD tournaments, I heard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, a couple of those.

[PFT]

The big boys got a double kill.

[Zach]

I played with Optic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Fuck yeah. All right, should we do our Mount Rushmore? Let's. Let's do our Mount Rushmore. Okay. Before we get to Mount Rushmore, this is an ad by BetterHelp. Workplace stress is now one of the top causes of declining mental health, with 61% of the global work force experiencing higher than normal levels of stress to battle stress. Most of us can't wave goodbye to work, but we can start small with a focus on wellness. So we've talked about it on this show. PFT and I have both seen therapists. It's really good just to talk to someone, even if you don't think you have something right this second. Talking out your problems is really, really helpful because you think that, oh, I'll talk about my problems to my co workers or my significant other. Sometimes you gotta talk to someone who is completely removed from the situation and you'll feel a lot better. So. With over 30,000 therapists, BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, having served over 5 million people globally. And it works with an App store rating of 4.9 out of 5 based on over 1.7 million client reviews. As the largest online therapy provider in the world, BetterHelp can provide access to to mental health professionals with a diverse variety of expertise. Unwind from work with BetterHelp, our listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.compmt that's BetterHelp H E L p.compmt we're also brought to you by our friends at hey dude, we were wearing them all week out in Tahoe. We were kicking back with the boys. We were hopping flights all summer long. One thing's for sure. Hey dude, shoes are coming with you. They're the ultimate travel companion. Easy to pack, easy to slip on and off at the airport. I know this from experience. I was packing them. They go right in there. The last thing you have to pack. And so light you'll forget you're even wearing them. No matter where your destination is, make sure you're always arriving in hey Dude Country. Easy on, breathable, and so lightweight you'll forget you're even wearing them. Built for boat rides, backyards, bar hangs, they're perfect for wherever the summer takes you. So whether you're in Tahoe, Toledo, Tallahassee, or just chilling in your own backyard, you're always just one pair away from hey dude country personal plug. I wore them on a boat yesterday in Tahoe. Incredible boat shoes. Incredible boat shoes. Hey dude, they are the best. Head to heydude.com barstool and gear up for your next trip. Trust us, you're going to want these along for the ride. Okay, let's do Mount Rushmore. Okay, Mount Rushmore time. It is 11, 11, eight. So memes and Max, PFT and Hank both have 11. Their teams have 11. Zach and I are still looking for our first win of the season. We're still still just desperately looking for that. We're in third with eight. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of worse places to be when violently hungover.

[Zach]

Steve Wozniacki, by the way, the king of Mount Rushmore. Maybe the lowest vote received of all time.

[Big Cat]

Steve Wozniak. Oh yeah, he said that.

[Hank]

I said it was going to be we were going to called that. Yeah, but you guys kept trying.

[PFT]

You were way off in your prediction.

[Hank]

No, I.

[Big Cat]

You're giving and you started out.

[PFT]

You're like, 6%.

[Zach]

You're like.

[Big Cat]

I think I said that.

[PFT]

I think I know how these things typically play out.

[Big Cat]

You are. That's right.

[Hank]

Yes. Because I said I was going to lose.

[PFT]

You sounded very arrogant, Max.

[Hank]

I. How do I sound? Arrogant? By saying that we were going to lose and then we lost.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that is correct.

[Trevor Lawrence]

What are you.

[Hank]

What are you upset about?

[PFT]

You diminished me and Hanks. Mount Rushmore.

[Hank]

I said that we were going to lose, and we lost.

[PFT]

He also talked a lot about our Mount Rushmore anymore.

[Hank]

No, I.

[Big Cat]

No, I don't.

[Hank]

You are completely.

[Zach]

Yeah, you guys.

[Hank]

You are choosing to remember something that just didn't happen.

[Zach]

I know, but I'm saying that our vote got a lot more votes than they're.

[Hank]

Oh, so you got one point and we got one point.

[Big Cat]

I see what you're saying. Yeah, I see what you're saying. You Italian.

[Hank]

What you got? I mean, that was.

[PFT]

You go Steve Woesniacki over here.

[Hank]

But I was right.

[Big Cat]

You were right. You were right. Listen, this is. It's contentious Mount Rushmore season. All right, who goes first?

[Hank]

I think we do.

[Big Cat]

Steve Wozniaski.

[Memes]

We go first.

[Hank]

We go first.

[Zach]

It looks like Steve Wozniacki.

[Big Cat]

That's very mean, you guys.

[PFT]

Okay, what do we say? Right?

[Big Cat]

What do we say, Zach?

[Zach]

My phone might die, though.

[Big Cat]

Zach, what do we say?

[PFT]

Oh, no.

[Big Cat]

Stay strong. Don't break.

[PFT]

Nightmare. Nightmare for me and Henry.

[Big Cat]

Stay strong. Don't break. All right. Worst place to be violently hungover. And this.

[Zach]

We should preface this. You cannot drink at this place. Yeah, like a lot of these places, sometimes it's. You might go there, and if you can drink, it's not as bad. This is under the, you know, guidelines of you're not allowed to drink if you're at this place.

[Big Cat]

Okay. I didn't know those were guidelines, but.

[Zach]

Okay, but that makes sense, right? Because, like, some. Some places.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Like, people are gonna be like, oh.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Well, if you just go there.

[Big Cat]

Took off a couple drinks, we took off some plate. We. We made choices based on, like, if someone could say, well, you could drink there. We're not gonna pick it.

[Hank]

Well, I don't.

[Big Cat]

Like.

[Hank]

You can't pick a bar and not like it there. There has to be, like. It can't be. The main reason of that thing is drinking. Like.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Yeah, okay, we're first, right? This will go. This will go well, a Long flight is our. Is our one. One. And to your point, you cannot be drinking on this long flight. Right, but that's not the point of.

[Zach]

No, that's.

[Hank]

You know what I mean?

[Zach]

That's what I meant. Some people were like, well, if you're hungover at a long flight, just drink.

[Hank]

You can't, but you can't do that. Yeah, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

I was. I was on a flight back from Hong Kong after I went over there with Donnie to go to the rugby World Series of Sevens. And I was coming down off MDMA and I got on a flight in Hong Kong and we flew all the way to New York non stop. I did not get up to pee until we were on final approach. That's how. That's how violently hungover and dehydrated I was. And it was the worst experience of my entire life. That's a good pick.

[Hank]

One time I was super hungover, and then I was running late to get to the plane, so I got a burrito and a couple sodas, and then there was like a. A journalist that was sitting next to me that was, like, documenting how hungover and disgusting I was the entire time.

[Big Cat]

Sounds awesome. That sounds great.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, that was tough today.

[Zach]

Today I was in an Uber to the airport and I farted. I thought it was. I. I didn't realize how bad it smelled. It smelled horrible. And it was a small Uber and I was like, oh, sorry, man. Turn the window down. Because, like, it literally smelled so bad. He rolls the windows up and he's like, no, the AC's on.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Zach]

And just sat there.

[Big Cat]

I couldn't believe it. I could not stink.

[Zach]

I could not believe it. Just sat there and ate.

[PFT]

Was.

[Zach]

It was. It was wild.

[PFT]

That's a wild move to pull a heat check on a fart inside of a car.

[Hank]

I also think it's a while if you're a passenger, you should be able to do what you want with the window.

[Big Cat]

Wow. Oh, with the window. Yes. Farting on everyone.

[Hank]

No, no. But I feel like if you're the passenger and you want the window down, the guy should be like, okay, yeah, you can have.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'd agree with that. I'd agree with that.

[Zach]

Anyway, I'm gonna go with our one. One. Pft.

[PFT]

Okay.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Funeral.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT]

That. Funeral is bad.

[Zach]

Funerals. Funeral's bad.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

Have you ever been violently hungover at a funeral?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay.

[Zach]

Not great.

[Big Cat]

Didn't have funeral. Bad day.

[Hank]

But I. I. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Is that why you said you can't.

[Hank]

It would be. It would be a bad Place to be hungover. I just can't say that I, I, I don't know. I, I can relate to that. But, but theoretically, yes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for sure. Zach, what do we want? We always, I mean, we, we got to stay strong. Don't break.

[Memes]

I agree. You got the list as well, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

You're thinking like. I think so four or five or.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Or one. All play well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, let's go four, five. All right, we'll go. Easy work. Just being hungover. Violently hungover at work is fucking brutal. There's just nothing worse when you're just like, like, I have to sit here all day be violently hungover. Everyone kind of knows you are. And it's, it's any situation where you can't lay down and sleep. That's really what we're talking about. And then this has never happened to us personally, but I think it would really, really suck. I think being violently hungover and waking up in jail would suck really bad. Yeah, that was stuff. Yeah, that was, Would be very bad.

[PFT]

It's not a fun time.

[Zach]

You, you think 10 or 3?

[Big Cat]

I thought you were going with you. I thought it was you. This was your Mount Rushmore.

[PFT]

Wait, what was the first pick overall.

[Zach]

On a cross country flight?

[Hank]

Long flight.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Okay, so Hank, I think we go with maybe number two on our list. You see that?

[Big Cat]

I thought it was Hank's Mount Rushmore.

[PFT]

It's our Mount Rush.

[Big Cat]

Oh, but you said he had the ball. Yeah, yeah.

[PFT]

It's just team.

[Big Cat]

Go for it.

[PFT]

Just teamwork.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Zach]

We're gonna go with your girlfriend's parents house.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Yeah, Good one. Can it be girlfriend slash in laws?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The TV started to work just randomly. Yeah. Now we're just watching a random commercial. It's a pick. Yeah.

[Zach]

You wake up, maybe like you're there. You're in a childhood bedroom, like a brother's room. You're terrified to go downstairs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

You're late.

[Big Cat]

Suck.

[PFT]

You're late already doing something you just want to.

[Zach]

The last thing you want to do is speak and have small talk with your girlfriend's parents.

[Big Cat]

Yep. Agreed. Agreed. Good pick. Good pick.

[Hank]

Our third pick is going to be our second pick. Our second pick will be school. If you're in college and you just have to go to class for some reason that next day, terrible, terrible feeling.

[Big Cat]

We had specifically taking a test.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It was like the testing that you.

[Hank]

Have to be, you have to be there for, and you can't skip it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I would be hungover for regular class, but Like, a test would just kill me. Yeah. Why are you laughing?

[Trevor Lawrence]

About 50 to answer.

[PFT]

Which one?

[Big Cat]

50.

[PFT]

I mean, 15 is a good one.

[Big Cat]

It's a really good one. Zach had a great one that I can't wait to share. It's not gonna make the cut. Pick number three. A child's birthday party.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Good one.

[PFT]

Good pick.

[Big Cat]

Just screaming. Okay, children. But children, I. I would like to say that I actually. I disagree with this, but this is a personal thing. A child's birthday party is actually not a bad place to be hungover because they have an activity to do. It's a big deal. Like, I'm telling. Like, I'm just saying, when you show up to a kid's birthday party. Now, if it was your child's birthday party, that might be different, but personally, when you. When your kid has a birthday party, it's a fucking savior because you just show up and they get to just play with their friends in a confined area, and you can just sit there.

[Hank]

This might be a little bit different as, like, the. The uncle. Like, Memes and I are both uncles.

[Big Cat]

Got it.

[Hank]

It's a little. When you have your own kid. I get that. But like, when you're going to, like, one of your nieces or nephews birthday parties and you're not around screaming kids all the time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then you have to be like, holy shit, this is child overload.

[Big Cat]

I just don't personally. When my kids have a birthday, it's like, great, Saturday's set. Because they're just gonna go play at this birthday party, and I can just chill.

[PFT]

I think the worst profession to go to work hungover at would be a teacher. Like an elementary school teacher. You're hungry. That's when you wheel the TV out. That's when we're watching Magic School.

[Big Cat]

Oh, big time. Big time.

[Zach]

Bill.

[PFT]

Yeah. Get ready to learn, Bill nye.

[Zach]

All right, 50. I'm going for it. Our third. It's our third pick, right?

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Zach]

We're gonna go with a workout class. You signed up for it. Maybe. You know, your girlfriend signed you up for it.

[Big Cat]

You.

[Zach]

You went out the night before.

[Big Cat]

That's like, a choice.

[Zach]

You still have to pay. But you paid a lot of time. You paid for it already. So you wake up, you're like, well, I already committed to this.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I'm just gonna go and sweat it out, and then once it starts, you want to die.

[PFT]

And sometimes.

[Big Cat]

What are you saying? Talking the mic memes? No, no, no.

[PFT]

I'm thinking future pick.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[PFT]

And sometimes it might be like, this is the start of me getting into shape. And you make that commitment the night before. You're like, you know what? I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna start working out. And then you follow through the next day, and you get into the class, and everyone knows that you're hungover.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT]

Your sweat smells like beer.

[Big Cat]

Okay, good pick with some similar. All right, so kind of. Zach, I think I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna let you do the last one, but I'm gonna go with the one that I think we. We workshop this because we brought up kids birthday. And I explained to Zach that, like, taking my kids to a birthday and being hungover is not a big deal because you just sit there. But what would be a big deal is Disney World with your kids. That would be hell on earth, because then you actually actively have to parent and chase them around and worry about where they're being and stand in lines and. And eat gross food. Disney World with kids would be. I actually don't think that there's. I've never been to Disney World as a kid or an adult, but I think that I'm. That might be the worst place in the world. Yeah.

[PFT]

I went once when I was, I think, five.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

And all I know about Disney World since then does make me seem like it would be a terrible place to be hungover.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Because you also have to pretend to be really excited and happy.

[Big Cat]

Well, yeah. Wait, Zach, should we go with eight? I just realized eight still there. Well, you're not talking.

[Memes]

I think eight is good. I also think 10 is good and 13 as well, but. No.

[Big Cat]

No, it's not good. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Memes]

Okay.

[PFT]

No, no.

[Big Cat]

That would blow this draft. We're doing a pretty good job staying strong. We're not breaking.

[Memes]

Okay, you're right. You're right. That was almost a break.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. I think we. Yeah.

[Memes]

Go eight. You think?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I think we just stay. We're staying right in the middle here. We have strong picks. Long car ride. Super long car ride. Brutal.

[PFT]

It's a good pick.

[Big Cat]

That was gonna be.

[Hank]

That was gonna be similar to a long flight.

[Big Cat]

It is. Yeah.

[Hank]

It was slightly more comfortable than.

[Big Cat]

A lot. A little bit more comfortable. But then you also have to deal with traffic, which sucks that way. Like a delay. Yeah. Long car ride. Like the.

[Hank]

No. Car rides are way more comfortable than.

[Memes]

No, that. There's always a gas. There's always a bathroom break on the plane. Those things are not always there. You can stop.

[Hank]

You can choose whenever. This.

[Big Cat]

You can't get off. You can't fight for yourself, Zach.

[Memes]

Sometimes you're in traffic. You can't just get out.

[Hank]

No, you can always pull.

[Big Cat]

Not in traffic.

[Memes]

That's just unsafe.

[Big Cat]

We're getting hit by cars. That's unsafe.

[Hank]

I've got pulling over.

[Memes]

What?

[Hank]

You can pull over.

[Memes]

Sometimes in the traffic jam, there is no pulling up.

[Big Cat]

Don't listen.

[PFT]

Don't.

[Memes]

Don't say that. You know, there's sometimes there's no pulling over.

[PFT]

Are you guys arguing that you can just pull over anywhere In.

[Big Cat]

Most easier to sleep on a plane if you're. You can't go.

[Hank]

This is wrong.

[Big Cat]

No, wait.

[Hank]

Unless you're driving.

[Big Cat]

Well, yeah, that. You could be driving hungover.

[Hank]

Okay, fair, fair, fair.

[Big Cat]

But it's part of a long car drive.

[Hank]

Okay?

[Big Cat]

There's been many times when I've been hungover and had, like, five hours to drive. And like, after, like, you a weekend.

[Hank]

You are not allowed to make this pick. You choose to drive over flying almost.

[Big Cat]

I love driving, but hungover driving sucks. I do love driving. I do.

[Hank]

I appreciate you fighting for your pick, but I know you don't fight for.

[Big Cat]

Zach more than anything, okay? He's got to stand up for him.

[Hank]

No, I like you guys well drunk. I mean, ours was also a 1:1 pick. This is a pick. In the fourth round, both of those.

[Big Cat]

Things can be true.

[PFT]

Good value.

[Big Cat]

Could we ask. Steve Kornacki was fourth round.

[Hank]

Yeah, no, it was great value.

[Big Cat]

It was a good pick. Zach. I liked you trying to say that you can't get out of a car.

[Memes]

Some circumstances you're in. In the car, you always got to wear the belt.

[Big Cat]

Playing. You literally can't. You could also.

[Hank]

Wait a minute. You could also take the belt off in a, In a car.

[PFT]

No, but you might.

[Memes]

The lights on.

[PFT]

You might be middle seat. Maybe they just stopped.

[Big Cat]

I would have taken a different approach, Zach, but I, I like. I, I'm trying to.

[Hank]

I know. I, I, I like it too. I like it, too.

[Big Cat]

I can't wait to tell you guys what 13 is.

[Zach]

I'm. Pft. I like our 13. I like our 8, and I like our 4.

[PFT]

Okay. I like our 7, too.

[Zach]

Okay, we'll go 7.

[PFT]

Up to you. Balls in your hands.

[Big Cat]

Balls in your hands. Hey, Hank.

[Zach]

All right, with our last pick.

[Big Cat]

We'Re.

[Zach]

Gonna go without your own wedding.

[Big Cat]

Had it on our list. Had it on our list.

[PFT]

Tough hangover.

[Zach]

Brutal hangover.

[Big Cat]

But you can, you can remedy it because you're going to start drinking again.

[Zach]

But yes, eventually. But you have to.

[PFT]

You have to battle.

[Zach]

It's supposed to be a great day. Do a lot of talking, small talk to everyone.

[Big Cat]

We had it on our list.

[PFT]

Good chance that you pass out.

[Big Cat]

It's good pick.

[PFT]

I'm addicted to watching the compilations of people passing out at what?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, they don't. They don't bend their knees.

[PFT]

You lock up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay, Max.

[Hank]

Our last pick will be a sports practice.

[PFT]

Okay.

[Hank]

This means. And I both college athletes. You guys wouldn't really get this, but.

[Zach]

I played football, played rugby.

[Hank]

It's like the worst feeling ever when, like, you try to be like a normal college kid, and then the very next morning, you have to, like, go get screamed at. Run for it. Run for days.

[Zach]

I was not going to be a college athlete. Was that fall ball hungover?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

It's the worst feeling in the world. I have one story where I got super drunk in New York City, came back the next day like, I was so drunk that someone told me to get a job because I was trying to bum a cigarette off the street from someone in New York and they thought I was homeless. And then I went to practice the next day playing first base, and I took a ball straight to the chest, which is almost impossible to do when you're playing first base very hard. It didn't hit my glove and somehow went straight and just crushed me in the chest.

[PFT]

Damn.

[Hank]

My friends. My friends on my team will remember this right now. It was. It was a tough day, but it is. It's kind of like the workout class, but you have. There's zero percent chance of skipping you. You just can't skip a practice when you're an athlete.

[Big Cat]

Do you guys want to know what 13 was for Zach?

[PFT]

Yeah, I do.

[Big Cat]

Laser tag.

[PFT]

Laser tag would suck.

[Big Cat]

Laser tag sucks anyway.

[Hank]

Yeah, no, laser tag's fine.

[Big Cat]

No, it isn't.

[PFT]

No. Laser tag rocks.

[Hank]

Laser tag.

[Big Cat]

When's the last time you guys played laser tag?

[PFT]

Too long.

[Hank]

Yeah, we should do it. I think we. Yeah, I feel like we should make a video playing laser tag.

[Big Cat]

I always suck.

[PFT]

Go play laser tag.

[Big Cat]

This week. Paintball exists.

[Hank]

Yeah, but then it's so much more. It's the competitiveness of paintball without having to worry about being.

[Big Cat]

Being hurt.

[PFT]

No, my favorite part of laser tag is when they sit you in the. In the pre briefing room and like, the teenager paces back and forth in front of you like a drill sergeant telling you the rul rules. That's the absolute best. Will not run in the arena.

[Big Cat]

The. The one that I was trying to work my head around that kind of is like, too long to explain, but I think is a really, really bad one. Is when you have. When you are on vacation and you're hungover and you have a late flight but you have to check out. So you're basically homeless. Yeah. Like seven hours hungover. Maybe even having to wheel your bag around, like, oh, we can go to this. We can go get lunch. And then you look at your clock. You're like, I still have five more hours before I have to be at the airport. Yeah, that's a terrible place.

[PFT]

We're gonna just find a place to sit down and read for a little bit.

[Big Cat]

Because all you want to do when you're hungover is lay down. It's like you were given. You had a bed and you had to give it up.

[PFT]

Sneaky. There are some vacation hangovers that. That would make this list, I think. So obviously, figure out a word.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

If you're at a base.

[Zach]

An exercise vacation.

[PFT]

Or. Yeah. If you have an activity. Yeah, yeah. You're doing a hike or you're going to see a museum.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT]

Whatever that would be. That's a bad hangover.

[Big Cat]

All right, what else for honorable mention. So I had so opposite of the. The kid's birthday. We. Disney World, I feel like was stronger pick. But parenting with no set plans is a really bad hangover. Like, really bad. Where you don't have anything planned for your kids on a Saturday or Sunday, and you're hungover. That sucks. Because then you're just like, what the fuck do we do?

[PFT]

We had at the super bowl, sitting in direct sunlight watching your team lose. Yes, that would be a bad hangover.

[Big Cat]

Yes, we had. We had. We had. Getting pub stomped with your boys.

[PFT]

Yep. That'd be bad. Hank, do you wanna. Do you want to say number 13? Because I don't know what this means, but I love it.

[Zach]

Behind enemy lines. Imagine waking up hungover behind enemy lines.

[Big Cat]

That would suck.

[Zach]

That would be horrible.

[Big Cat]

That would suck. You're absolutely right.

[Zach]

Like, worst case scenario, like, you're hungover and, like, you want to just go home. And you're not only can you knock a home, you're, like, kidnapped.

[Big Cat]

There's a war. Yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

You're a prisoner of war.

[PFT]

People are trying to shoot at you.

[Big Cat]

Similar to the one you said about the sun in your light in your eyes. I think just being hungover, like, thousands of miles from home after watching your team lose a big game. I've had that a few times in my life, and it's brutal. Where you, like, wake up. And you're like, now I gotta get home. And it's the hangover, but it's also just thinking about the loss. Yep.

[Hank]

Also being super hungover and going into a really big game. Also can tell.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

From experience.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

We also.

[Hank]

Very bad.

[PFT]

We actually.

[Big Cat]

My buddy and I once. It was like a combo because I. We had to leave our hotel after the Rose bowl and we just walked to LAX. Like 15 miles. Because we're like, we have nine hours to till our flight. And we just walked. And it's not a walk you should do.

[PFT]

We had In Hank's hotel room the morning of the super bowl with puke on your shirt. We had.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

No, we were memes. And I almost just did all of my bad hangovers.

[PFT]

Oh, you remember when you lost your phone.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Hank]

That was the same. That was the same day.

[Big Cat]

I'm surprised court wasn't put out there. We had. Court would be bad. We had DMV church. Yeah. I also thought Zach said gender reveal party.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Would suck.

[Hank]

Well, okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You're getting some.

[Hank]

That's just like a party.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You're going to get an adrenaline boost.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Contact sports.

[Big Cat]

Contact sports.

[Hank]

I thought about this just now, but at, like, a doc. Like a. Like a physical. And you have to explain to your doctor how much you drink in a week while you smell like booze. That would be tough.

[Big Cat]

We had.

[PFT]

At a really loud brunch.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So we thought of that.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But then we're like, that's a drinking activity.

[PFT]

It's kind of a drink. But there's always somebody at the. At the brunch that is violently hungover. Especially if it's like a big group trip.

[Big Cat]

Trip.

[PFT]

And you. It's always the worst experience for them.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We. We literally discussed that one. We're like. But you'd have to be drinking just.

[Zach]

Outside on a sunny, sunny day with no sunglasses.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Zach]

How about where you are?

[Big Cat]

How about this one? Because I was thinking about this one. I. I feel like it would be hell on earth. But also, you're like. You kind of sign up for it. Outdoor music festival. One that you like a Bonnaroo.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Where you sleep over, but you then have to deal with Porta Potties. Like, you're up at 6am yeah. You just gotta get drunk again. Again. Dentist. You've done that. Almost puked.

[PFT]

That's a good one.

[Big Cat]

On a bus. On a bus. Bus ride is pretty bad.

[PFT]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Moving.

[Hank]

Moving.

[Big Cat]

I feel like you. That's a. You. You can plan better than that. But I have. I Have definitely moved. Hungover. And it's bad.

[Memes]

You have to do yard work. Hungover. Hungover.

[Big Cat]

That one is not. Yard work is like, kind of gives you a little fresh air, but yeah, that would be bad. Depends on what type are we talking? Like, bagging leaves. Like, that's, you know, that kind of fun. You jump in the leaf pile, trimming trees.

[PFT]

I think mowing the lawn would be okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

I was super hungover at my own graduation in college.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

That was not. That was not fun.

[Big Cat]

It's everyone. Yeah.

[PFT]

Just sitting, listening to the most boring person in the world talk.

[Hank]

I didn't go to my college graduation. I graduated in the winter, and I told my parents there just wasn't a winter graduation.

[Trevor Lawrence]

And there was.

[PFT]

Yeah, it was.

[Big Cat]

There was. Let's see, we did laser tag Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is a tough hangover day, and that is one that everyone's hungover for. Like, having to. To be with family all day. You just start drinking again. But it is kind of a tough one.

[PFT]

I never understood why. Why Wednesday was so much bigger of a night than that Friday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

That Friday seems like a much better idea.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. In a random person's house. That's happened. Sure.

[PFT]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

You guys have had that. Yep.

[Hank]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

We.

[Hank]

Girlfriend's roommate's bed. That's what that was. Another one that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Wanted us to pick.

[PFT]

That's a good one.

[Hank]

That was a tough one.

[Big Cat]

I once slept in an abandoned frat house in Charleston, South Carolina, on a bachelor party. That was not fun. It was so cold. I've never been more cold in my life.

[PFT]

Did you have a blanket?

[Big Cat]

No, it was abandoned, so.

[PFT]

On the ground.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I was sleeping, like, on the ground. We couldn't get back. It was before Ubers. We couldn't get back to the house, and we were just like, it. We'll just try to sleep here. And then I woke up, and I was shivering when I woke up.

[Memes]

That's very spooky.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was not good. I'm not, like, proud of it. Shout out the house. I don't even know what it was.

[PFT]

I had Qatar on my list.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Not a good place.

[Big Cat]

Not a good place. Escape room. Zach said. Yeah.

[Memes]

Difficult.

[Hank]

No, I actually think that's. That's a great.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Memes]

Spinning.

[Hank]

That's a really good one.

[PFT]

Any sort of team building activity?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. The hospital. The hospital could pick. Yeah. Museum with kids. Museum just in general is terrible. Any place you have to stand shopping. Shopping. Other. Yeah, Terrible. Like, I. Like an IKEA trip or like a Home Depot trip.

[Hank]

The container Store.

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[Hank]

The Container Store. Don't get it.

[Big Cat]

Terrible. All right, I think we got a good list.

[PFT]

Amusement park music.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was our Disney World kind of.

[PFT]

Yeah. The Gravitron.

[Zach]

Steve.

[Big Cat]

Steve Wozniaki. The gambling cave.

[Hank]

Why do you.

[Big Cat]

After two, it throws an interception, and Frank's in town. Oh, that's a really good one. That's relatable, too. It is.

[Zach]

Champagne problems, Being in the gambling cave. Hungover sometimes can be.

[Big Cat]

Hell, yeah. What about the US Open? In the gambling cave, when you fall asleep for, like, the most important holes.

[Zach]

That wasn't even a hangover.

[Big Cat]

That was. Oh, really? That was just a nap.

[PFT]

It was just a healthy body.

[Big Cat]

It was just you on your mu. Dang. Yeah.

[PFT]

You got to get solid.

[Big Cat]

We can't go up. He's mude. All right. Yes. Steve, what do you got?

[Hank]

I don't know. I'd have to see the graphic. I don't. I don't have any strong opinions on this. I also don't want to get into a habit of doing this after every Mount Rushmore, but I like. I like memes. Nice picks.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right. Kind of soft, but that's really soft. Incredibly soft.

[PFT]

Sounds like you don't have conviction.

[Hank]

No. Well, I mean, I had a conviction, and then I was right. And you still got angry about it.

[Zach]

So not angry at all.

[Big Cat]

I'm not mad. He's not angry.

[Hank]

You texted in the group.

[PFT]

That was a scheduled text. I. I scheduled that text.

[Hank]

For what reason?

[PFT]

Just check in.

[Hank]

I thought of something happened in the Phillies and trade deadline, and that was bullshit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you were. You were. You're duped on that one.

[Hank]

But, I mean, that happens a lot in the chat of, like, when one of our teams, like, makes makes a big move, it's like, hey, congrats. And I was. I had no service where I was at, so I couldn't. Like, Twitter wasn't reloading, but I was. But I was still receiving text, so it was a bad spot. It was a bad spot. It was something so stupid like that. Like, I don't give a.

[PFT]

It's a great way to. With your boys, though.

[Hank]

No, that is a good way to.

[Big Cat]

With your boys. Yeah. Wait, what is this text you sent us? Z. Us Never dead.

[Hank]

That was when.

[Big Cat]

That was.

[Hank]

That was the night that I was super up and then had to go to practice the next day. That was the night that people thought I was homeless.

[Big Cat]

All right, let's. Let's do our interview with Trevor Lawrence. Really, really cool guy. Like, he's the Man, So great interview with Trevor Lawrence. And then on the other side of Trevor Lawrence, we'll finish the show. We're gonna get Zach a date before.

[PFT]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is Jacksonville Jaguar starting quarterback Trevor Lawrence. Trevor, long time coming. I know that we've wanted to have you on for a while. It's good to see you. Let's start with kind of easy question. How are you feeling health wise? Because obviously last we saw you that was up that hit. Are you feeling okay?

[Trevor Lawrence]

Feeling good now? Yeah, I recovered, thankfully. You know I'm not playing golf. This is a good sign. Left shoulder surgery in December. So between that and then our daughter was born January 4th. So it was like back to back. It's crazy for the last few months, but feeling great now. Shoulders all healed up, ready to go.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT]

How does that affect a right handed quarterback if they have a left shoulder injury? Because we hear about it like I think Baker had one a couple years ago. Yeah, we're like, oh, it's just not just throwing arm. He'll be fine. He can go out there.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Well, it's like with getting hit for one, I mean that's one obviously big part of it, but I think throwing too, like you use a lot of rotation in that left side, like you're straining and pulling that side through. So like I played against Houston when I got knocked out of that game, like I played and even that game, like I had some, some plays where it's like I couldn't throw it out. I wanted to because I couldn't really like pull with my left side. So it's just all right arm. So it does affect, I mean obviously like minor stuff you can get away with and play and you're fine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. So feeling healthy, that's good. I feel like this is a big year for you. Do you feel that? Like not pressure wise but like, hey, this is a year like if I'm going in healthy, I feel like, you know, you got a new coach offensive minded. Do you feel that or is it just like same as. Same as every year?

[Trevor Lawrence]

You try to treat them all the same. But I mean realistically like where I'm at in my career, I'm going to year five, you know, been an up and down so far the first four years for me and just our team and our situation, I've had, you know, this is my third head coach. I've had a lot of turnover, a lot of change, but I really feel good about the situation we're in. I love coach Cohen and the whole staff and everyone that's in. All the guys that were brought in free agency, just good dudes, good players too. But I really feel like we've done some great things this off season as far as just speaking offensively, like the changes we've made, the system we're running, I have a lot of confidence in this system is, I mean, tried and true. The LA and you know, Minnesota runs it now with OConnell, all those, those teams and they have a lot of success with it. So it's a great system for quarterbacks and yeah, I mean like where I'm at in my career, year five, like it's time to time to go and start winning consistently and be not just that team where it's like, you know, you're always, like, no one really takes you seriously. You know, you want to be that team that's always competing for, you know, playoffs, Super Bowls, and you're in the. You're in the hunt, you know, so that's. Of course, that's. I mean, I see it through that lens of, like, yeah, it's year five, and, you know, I feel like this is, like, getting into my prime. Like, I got a lot of good years left ahead of me, and I need to really turn it on. And I think what we've built around me and what they've done this offseason has been a great start.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

You guys have some weapons. Defensive back Travis Hunter, wide receiver Travis Hunter.

[Big Cat]

He's our guy.

[PFT]

He's our guy. I like the handshake that you guys.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Did you guys talk to Travis? I saw something.

[Big Cat]

No. So we jet on him to win the Heisman at 41 in August, and then we just talked about him on every show.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's pretty awesome. That was a great bet to the.

[Big Cat]

Point where our fans hated us for it, but we won the bet.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That was a lock.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

He was clearly the best player in college football. Actually.

[Big Cat]

I was looking it up. I Actually, we've been doing this Heisman thing for a while where we're like, oh, we have a pretty big voice. We're just gonna bet on something and hope we can talk our way into it. I actually think that you might have been the start of it for me. In 2020. You should have won the Heisman because I went back.

[Trevor Lawrence]

You had me.

[Big Cat]

I. I went back. I looked at my tweets, and it's literally, like, every day, I just like, oh, yeah, Trevor Lawrence is playing great. He should win the heism.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I played, like, nine games that year, but he had the COVID year, and I missed two.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So it was like. Yeah, it was.

[Big Cat]

You were.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Devonte had a great year, though.

[Big Cat]

You.

[Trevor Lawrence]

But you were.

[Big Cat]

You finished second place, and you weren't too far behind.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, no, that was a. That was a wild year. But, yeah, no, Travis is a stud.

[Big Cat]

No, I had your back there, so appreciate it. Yeah, I was all.

[PFT]

So, yeah. Who came up with the handshake between you and you and Travis?

[Trevor Lawrence]

So it all started with. We did an Adidas commercial together, and it's a sneak peek. I don't know when that's going to come out. Probably soon. And that was part of it. So it was like. It's a little bit manufactured, but, yeah, he's good at that stuff. And I let him dance and do all that. That commercial was a little bit of that. I'm like, all right, he's got it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So he's got a big personality.

[PFT]

He's got a lot of expectations. I think they said he's a culture changer, but also a sport changer. Like he was going to change the future of football. Have you seen something out of him where you're like, man, this guy. This guy's transcendent?

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, I mean, I think that's. I mean, that's a big. That's a. That's a lot to think about as far as change the sport. But I will say, just my interactions with him, I mean, he's unbelievable as far as, like, the condition and shape he's in. I mean, this guy can run all day, plays db, plays receiver. Like, he'll run. He'll run a post route or whatever and say, we'll miss it. Or I want to run a different. I'll run again, just come right back. And other guys, I mean, everyone I've played with is like, no one does that. It's not shade on anybody else, but it's like, no one's trying to run 50 yards full speed again right when they just did it. So it's stuff like that. He's a super hard worker, just a good guy. Like, you can tell he's. He doesn't have a lot of, like, you know, issues going on and stuff where it's like he's distracted. Like, he just seems very focused and, like, you know, sticks to himself. He's great.

[Big Cat]

Is there any part of you that when you're like, training camps coming up, are you going to try to pick on him as a DB so that they're like, he's not ready as a DB and he's got to play.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I said that. So his first day over at db, I was like, we're throwing every ball.

[Big Cat]

Yes, he's.

[Trevor Lawrence]

He's pretty freaking good at corner, too, though. But, yeah, he's. He's. I mean, it's like a guy like him, he could do whatever he wanted to do. I mean, it's going to be interesting in the NFL. Like, how much can you play both ways? I don't know. It's been done before, but it's been a while. So, I mean, if there's a guy that can do it, he can do it, but we'll see how that plays out. But, yeah, definitely that first Day. I was like, I'm throwing every ball at you. So you don't. So you come back to offense.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So he. The. Wait, no, go ahead. I forgot the question I was going to ask.

[PFT]

Okay, I got you.

[Big Cat]

I had a question.

[PFT]

I got it pulled up.

[Big Cat]

God damn it. No, I had just escaped me. I'm such a. We talk about, you know, when I get it.

[PFT]

Obviously, we talk.

[Big Cat]

I remembered it.

[PFT]

Okay, there we go.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Perfect.

[Big Cat]

I'll go after.

[PFT]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I feel like I got it in my head.

[PFT]

Trevor, who would you like to ask this next question? That was my next question.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I feel like you got it.

[Big Cat]

He's got it.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Okay, he's up. All right, he's on deck.

[PFT]

All right. So when we have a quarterback on the show, we say the things to them that we say on the show when they're not in front of us. All right, so we have our annual quarterbacks rankings list that we put together last week.

[Trevor Lawrence]

All right, let's hear it.

[PFT]

Where do you think you should be?

[Trevor Lawrence]

Tough question. You know, if I'm. Obviously. I've only played eight games last year.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Trevor Lawrence]

My best season. So you basing off last season? Yeah, right now, I mean, I think. I think I should be top 10 quarterback, but where I think you guys have me at. Do you want that answer?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I bet you guys have me at.

[PFT]

15, 14, but close. That's the good quarterbacks tier.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

We listed you as a good question.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Okay, I appreciate that.

[Big Cat]

And we also did the.

[Trevor Lawrence]

What's the year? Below that, we'll.

[PFT]

We'll change these rankings from game to game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

So, like, Jordan Love. Yeah, Sometimes he'll be great. Some.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

I can't imagine you spend too much time just thinking to yourself, like, what number of quarterback am I in the league?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I usually look at all those and just think about those, you know?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Not too much time. There's a lot of. There's a lot of rankings out there. I'm sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's great. All right. Right? The question. I forgot that. Now I remember.

[PFT]

Better be banger.

[Big Cat]

Why didn't you guys give any space to your dad on draft night? You were squishing so tight. That was.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Did you post something?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I posted it. I mean, you guys.

[Trevor Lawrence]

What did you say? What was the.

[Big Cat]

I said, you have it.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I remember this. And I was dying.

[Big Cat]

It was. I mean, it was crazy. I said, can we get Trevor's dad a little nut space? Talk about Squeak. I mean, he was.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Oh, my gosh. That's like.

[Big Cat]

I feel like I'm no disrespect to your dad, but you guys basically made it like he doesn't have a penis or balls the way you made him citizen.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Well, I'm here, so I can. I think it. It worked out. That's true.

[Big Cat]

That's true. Good point.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Proof. Dad's just such a nice guy. He wanted. He was selfless. He wanted to give the couch away to, you know, me, Marissa, my mom. Just. Just a stud.

[Big Cat]

It's insane.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It is. That picture is crazy.

[Big Cat]

Did you see it after? And you're like.

[PFT]

Oh, yeah, he. He's hitting this one right here.

[Trevor Lawrence]

He's also. He's also sitting there, and you can tell he's not comfortable.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, no. You guys squeezed the hell. So did you apologize after?

[Trevor Lawrence]

No, I did. I did. I think I showed him that after him, like, he was just, like, shaking his head. Didn't even say anything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, that is a team player. That's a great dad.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Selfless man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He basically was like, I'll just sit here and just. You just crunch my nuts.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Sacrifice the nuts for the draft.

[Big Cat]

Thank God you got picked first. Imagine if you would.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Exactly.

[Big Cat]

Imagine if you dropped, like, the second round and he was just. That'd be tough, being castrated live on.

[Trevor Lawrence]

TV all night, five hours.

[Big Cat]

That's true. That is. At least. You did that for him.

[PFT]

He hasn't had any more kids since then.

[Big Cat]

True.

[PFT]

Might have stopped it.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's. That actually is. That's a good. That's a good point.

[PFT]

You do have it.

[Trevor Lawrence]

You have to talk to him after this to make sure he's all right.

[PFT]

Hey, how are you shooting him on him? You have a brother, by the way.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT]

Your brother seems like. I. I don't know really anything about him besides the fact that he's an artist and he looks way cooler than me. And so whenever. That's a guy I could chill with.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, he's. I always say, like, my brother is way cooler than me. So we're. I mean, we're very similar personalities, but just different interest. And so, like I said, he's an artist, doesn't care about sports. Like, he'll watch my stuff, but, like, that's it.

[Big Cat]

It.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Like, he probably doesn't even watch the super bowl or anything like that. He doesn't watch anything. So he's. It's cool having a brother like that. And we're super close, like best friends. But, yeah, we. We talk the exact same, but he just looks completely different.

[Big Cat]

Like, when you were growing up, was there a moment where he was Like, I'm not into sports anymore because it is kind of crazy to have NFL quarterback starting NFL quarterback and then a brother who is same size. And he's an artist.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, he was. So he's four and a half years older than me. And my parents knew, like, my. All. My whole family's into sports. My dad, my mom, my uncles, all them. So they're all into sports. My brother, they got him into sports when he was young. And this is actually a great segue.

[Big Cat]

He.

[Trevor Lawrence]

There's some great stories about my brother and, like, going to the wrong dugout and baseball games as a kid, like, playing in the dirt. I remember going to some of his, like, rec. Basketball games. He's sleeping on the bench.

[Big Cat]

Coaches, like, pissed.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's like, get off. He's just, like, waking up, you know, so it's crazy stuff. So then eventually were like, all right, finish the season and then you're done. Like, you don't have to play anymore. So you just. After. I don't know, maybe he was like, nine or ten. He never. He didn't play sports.

[Big Cat]

Well, it's a credit to your parents because, like, to have, you know, two sons that are that different, that's really cool.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It is, it is. And he's been very successful. Him and his wife do art together, which is cool. They work on all their pieces together, so it's like, for them to. I mean, that's a hard. It's hard to be a successful artist. So they've done. They've done a good job.

[PFT]

So do you have any of his art in your house?

[Trevor Lawrence]

I do. I have a few things. I have a huge. I wish I had a picture. I probably do on my phone, but, like, a huge Jaguar tiger. It's like, crossing through this, like, doorway, like, changing from a tiger. It's pretty sick. It matches, like, the office, like, this dark green. It's sick. So he. He gave that. Or him and Brooke gave that to us a few years ago, so that's awesome.

[Big Cat]

I got a tough question for you. All right. It's gonna be hard for you to probably explain it because we're just regular guys. Dabo. Can you explain them to us?

[Trevor Lawrence]

I can try. Yeah, I can try.

[Big Cat]

From the outside, you understand, He. He's quirky, but obviously he's a great coach. Winning national titles. Like, you, you know, you win a national title with him, he wins other ones. What is it that, like, makes him tick and. And what. What is special about him?

[Trevor Lawrence]

He is, first of all, I love the guy, like, genuinely, like, I'm not just saying that because I've played for him. Like, he is awesome. And I say, too, like, there's a lot of people. There's a ton of people that love him. There's a lot of people that don't like him just for whatever reason. But, like, what you see really is what you get with him. Like, he doesn't. He doesn't put on a fake, like, personality. That's why sometimes, like, he'll say stuff in media. I remember when I was there, and he'd say something media, and people would kill him for it. And he just, like, doesn't care.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

He's just always honest. And just his energy, you know, he's not like a. He's not an offensive coordinator. He wasn't a coordinator. He was a position coach straight to head coach. Went from receivers coach to interim head coach. That was his transition. So he wasn't. He's not like, the biggest. He understands the game. He's not a huge X's nose, guys. But he's like, motivator, vision. Like, our team meetings would be so long, but, I mean, there's times where it's like, all right, this is. This is long.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

But honestly, like, he kept our attention. Great motivator. Like, he would. He would make you believe, like, you could do anything. Like, our team, we'd be like, dude, we're gonna. Like, it didn't matter who we're playing. Like, we're gonna kill these dudes. And, like, it could be a team that's better than us. I mean, I didn't have much on our. We had teams at Clemson, but, like, he was awesome. I still talk to him, like, once a month.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, and obviously, like, Clemson before Dabo gets there, like, they were good, but it was also the joke of, like, Clemsoning and, you know, always being good but not great. And then he took it to another level, so it's clear for sure. And he also. The thing that Dabo deserves a ton of credit for is he broke up. Like, he was the. The guy who won, other than Nick Saban in that era, like, Nick Saban dominated college football.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And Dabo was like, no, I got teams that can compete.

[Trevor Lawrence]

100.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. It's like, I feel like with head coaches, it's always a balance of, like, you have some head coaches that are just very cerebral. They just think football, and they kind of miss that motivational leadership aspect of it. And then he is kind of, like, the opposite. And I think that there's. There has to be like a fusion. So if you're like that. He's done a great job with his staff. Like, he's hired. I loved all of our coaches at Clemson. Offensive coordinators, position coaches. Obviously, we got great players. He's a great recruiter. Like, you want to go play for him. It really is like he sells the family atmosphere of Clemson and then you get there and it really is like that. Like, it's a. It's a great place to go to school, but, man, he's. He's a stud. I love him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Did you use the slide in the facility?

[Trevor Lawrence]

I did.

[Big Cat]

I got yelled at.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Not like every day.

[Big Cat]

I got yelled at for going down the slide.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So you went down it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Players only. Oh. And they were like, someone yelled at me like, you're not supposed to do that. I was like, well, I'm already down.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's probably. It's probably like an insurance.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Liability thing.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I just saw a slide and I.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Break something and sue the.

[Big Cat]

I just went for it. Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's awesome.

[PFT]

That wasn't a players only slide. Like, you didn't have a hard, fast rule.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I mean, I think it's like people in the building like, player. I think coaches can you, you know, like.

[Big Cat]

But have you seen coaches?

[Trevor Lawrence]

Oh, yeah. He'd go down it. He'd probably go down it just like for fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Between meetings.

[PFT]

He's also a great tick tocker.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. That's a classic.

[PFT]

That is a classic.

[Big Cat]

Hickory dickory doc. The mouse ran up the clock. Coach Sweeney's got that drip and now he's on tick tock.

[PFT]

What was your reaction when you saw that?

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's a tough one with the gloves on.

[PFT]

Hickory dickory dock. The mouse went up the clock. Coach Swinney got that drip and now he's on tick tock.

[Trevor Lawrence]

But that's. That's like actually him just like cringy stuff and you're just. And he has no shame.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I like that. Your answer is that, like, he doesn't. He doesn't hear the outside noise. Because I think guys like that, they can just stay themselves and they don't get changed by people, you know, being like, that's lame or for sure. Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

And it's like his belief is so strong and what he's doing, it's like he's. That stuff doesn't affect him. Like, there's a lot of people where. When things start getting tough, like, they kind of waver and go up and down and he's just always the same, like, he's always on 10. Like, he never changes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Coach is going viral for being cringy on TikTok. That's way better than your coach going viral for, I don't know, like, grabbing somebody's butt after a game. That would be awkward.

[Big Cat]

That would be really awkward.

[PFT]

Hypothetically.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Hypothetically.

[Big Cat]

Hypothetically. Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It would be a tough. To be a tough team meeting, for sure.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I don't know how you thought of that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT]

It'd be weird.

[Big Cat]

It's all hypothetical.

[PFT]

I bet the group chats that you might be on would be kind of crazy, waking up to those. The more I. Yeah, yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Crazy rookie year, for sure.

[Big Cat]

You're a new coach. Coach. Coach Cohen, who we had on, had a lot of fun with him when you first met him. Did you bring up the Duval thing? I feel like you got to do it just to be like, hey, I'm gonna say it once, and then we can move on.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So I. But I met him before that.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Trevor Lawrence]

And I was. I was there that day, but I missed. No, no, I was in there. I was in that press conference, actually.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So it was like. There was. There was a bunch of the. There was, like, five or six of the guys that were in town that went and they all met him and talked to him. Then we went to the press conference, and. Yeah, we. I honestly didn't give him too much. I didn't give him. I didn't give him too much heat on it, because I know everybody else was.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So I. I let him breathe a little bit on it, but I think he's coached up on it. Did you guys. Did he do one on.

[Big Cat]

He did, yeah.

[PFT]

It improved.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Same one or the. Or the.

[PFT]

No, it improved. Yeah. Talking through it. It was also the eyes.

[Big Cat]

The eyes.

[PFT]

When he was.

[Big Cat]

That's what I told him. It was the eyebrows, which was the.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's actually impressive that you can. That he can do that.

[Big Cat]

I know. I know.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I can't do it.

[PFT]

Did somebody teach you how to say Duvall?

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. It's like, I think when you get there, when you're drafted, you got to do a big one on camera.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I don't know if they still do it. I haven't seen the rookies do it this year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, you got to get them.

[Trevor Lawrence]

There's been some funny ones.

[PFT]

What's the trick to it?

[Trevor Lawrence]

You got to go deep.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Duvall.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's good. That was good.

[PFT]

Do you feel additional pressure carrying on the legacy of Blake Bortles?

[Big Cat]

Good question.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Blake is the man he is the man. He is the man. He's the man. Around Jacksonville, I've not met one person that doesn't like Blake.

[Big Cat]

Blake, yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

He is the man. And I haven't. Unfortunately, I haven't hung out with him that much, but I see him from time to time, like golfing or at the beach or whatever. He's super cool. Brandon Linder. I don't know if you guys know that name. He was a center, but him and I played with Brandon Leonard my rookie year, but they came in together, him and Blake, and Linder's the man, but they're, like, best buds. So you tell me all about Blake and. Yeah, bunch of. Bunch of funny, crazy stories, but, dude, he's. He's awesome, everyone. The boat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he's the boat.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's what everybody knows him as.

[Big Cat]

Would you let us stay at your house without you being there? There?

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, I would.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay, cool.

[PFT]

You too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, our crew. Yeah.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Cuz that's what Blake did for us.

[PFT]

Uhhuh.

[Trevor Lawrence]

He did that for you?

[Big Cat]

We went to.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Was at the beach.

[Big Cat]

It was at the beach. We went to his house.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Beach.

[Big Cat]

We texted. We were like, hey, we're here. He's like, oh, I forgot you guys were coming. Like, I'm out to dinner. Here's the code. Just let yourself in.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I do that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. It was.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So you were like. It wasn't like, oh, stay at my house for the week?

[Big Cat]

Like, no, we stayed for a night.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

But he was up for a night.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, he came back. Sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

No, that definitely.

[Big Cat]

That's just the type of guy Blake is.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. No, that checks out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I love that interview with him with that girl on Julia.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's amaz.

[PFT]

Well, and then he retired from the NFL to build his own house.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Rip Sigs and. And do construction.

[Big Cat]

He tried to be friends with the construction workers.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Dude, I love that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I got some buddies that play pickup basketball with him, like, every week.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. I haven't made it out there yet, but I heard it's a great time.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I want to talk about the playoff game. The comeback. Incredible game. How did you not quit? Because I would have quit. I would have been like this.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It was crazy.

[Big Cat]

Down so much. This is pointless, I think.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I mean, I wouldn't. I wouldn't quit. I mean, that's.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, that's the difference in the NFL. Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. I wouldn't. Wouldn't quit. But I mean, there it was. It was looking. It was looking bad. I mean, it really was I think that drive at the end of the first half, or. I know that drive was huge. We went. Scored right before halftime. So it was 27 00. And we. We had four turnovers, like, through four picks, every possession finally scored. And we're like, all right, we did something right. And then, I mean, you gotta think about, too, like, the defense. We gave up three points in the second half.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So it's like we did. If we gave up a touchdown, we lose. So they. They had to lock in, too. So we. And then we scored every possession.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was incredible game, dude.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I don't know. We. And we didn't even say much in the locker room. It was just like, we scored and was like, all right, one possession at a time. Like, we gotta just find a way to get back in it. Then we scored another time we gotta stop. And then now it's, you know, it's 27, 14 or 34. I was like, that's not bad. Like, now we're back in the game and we just got hot. It was almost one of those things. I've been the position, too. When you're winning, it's like you're trying so hard to not lose. I think that's what LA did. It's like you're trying so hard to not lose the game.

[Big Cat]

You lose the game, you start calling the game differently.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. Like, offensively, I don't know what they're doing on offense. I just. I didn't watch all that stuff necessarily. But even defensively got, like, pretty conservative. Like, the first half, they were just like crazy pressures, crazy funky stuff that they haven't done before. And they got us on a few things. And then the second half, it's like they were just like, all right, we're going to back up. We're going to play a lot of zone. We're just going to try to. And there was just too much time.

[PFT]

So, yeah, like, everyone. Everyone on that defense looked like they were scared to make a mistake. Like, they knew that you guys could do it and you knew that you could do it.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. Once we. Once we scored and made it 14, whatever, 27 or 30, whatever it was, they were like, they weren't talking at all. Yeah, they were. They were. They were talking.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

The pressure in the first half, because we were. They were killing us. And then we scored a couple times and they're like, saying nothing. The whole defense is just like, oh, God, let's just not lose the game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Hopefully the clock ticks faster right now.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Our co. Worker John Gruden. He came on here and he told us about Andrew Luck and how he had the best snap cadence that he'd ever heard. Did a great impression of it. And then we had Andrew Luck come on and he did it in person. He made me and Big Cat jump off sides. But is that something that, that like you're going to the nf, you work on your snap cadence?

[Trevor Lawrence]

I had to work on it because I did. I did a lot of classes instead of clapping.

[PFT]

Disgusting.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's not pretty. Pretty effective. You know, it's sounds the exact same on one or two. So.

[PFT]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

But no, I. So I had to work. I never. So I never called plays in the huddle besides goal line. Like, goal line, you get big personnel, you go under center, hand it to Christian Wilkins or something like fullback, like that stuff. You get in the huddle, call the play and. But I never went under center or called a play or did a cadence really until I got to the NFL. So all that was like, blew my mind. Like some of the play calls that are 20 words, like, that was a huge adjustment.

[Big Cat]

Was that the hardest change or was it. Because, I mean, obviously everyone talks about the speed, but what was that the hardest jump from college to NFL?

[Trevor Lawrence]

Probably. I mean, yeah, the, the speed, all that stuff, like the margin for error is a lot smaller. The guys just aren't as open. Like you're throwing dunks to typically, like you're not throwing a wide open guys. That's just, that's a change. But I think, yeah, the mental, like, I guess what you have to do as a quarterback mentally is a lot different than college. Like what I was asked to do. So that was a big change. Like even the run game, like changing stuff, knowing exactly what's going on, the run game, like changing the, the point, adjusting it, getting to like your second play, running two. But we never ran two plays in college. Like, we would do the fake cadence and then look at the sideline. Like, does the coach want to change the play? Yeah, if not, you just run it. You know, like stuff like that. But. And we signaled everything but like having the two plays in one, adjustments in the run game, and then you change it to a play action or a pass. Like all that stuff was a huge adjustment for me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Back to your, your overall health right now. I said that you're feeling good.

[Big Cat]

We're.

[PFT]

We're feeling as, maybe as healthy as we felt in a long time. Have the Jacksonville Jaguars made the investment in an injury car cart so that you don't have to walk 2 miles.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Injury cart. Yeah, yeah, we. We have some.

[PFT]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT]

We felt bad for you at the time. We were watching on tv and we're like, put this man on a cart, dude.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That was. Give him a ride. Was like. So I was kind of close to that one tunnel. If you guys, where I was on the field, like, I was close to one, so I'm like, I'm gonna walk off. Like, I'll be fine. Didn't barely walk off, but then when I got the tunnel, it was. It was a Monday night game, I think. Yeah, it was Cincy, but I think it's Monday night. It's prime time game. So they had cameras in the tunnels. So that's where. That's where they got the money shot of me, like, limping down the. I didn't think there was any cameras in there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So I. They offered me a cart. I will say, but you're.

[Big Cat]

You're a tough guy. Tough guy.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I mean, I shouldn't have been knowing that. That, like, what turn of it. Like, I should have just gotten the cart, but I was like. I was like, if I'm fine and I got carted off, like, that's like something you don't want to do. Yeah, that's the worst.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's true.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's like. It's like that. Who did that? Was it Paul Pierce? Paul Pierce.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's like.

[PFT]

Well, he pooped himself.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he did.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. It's like, if you get carded off, then you come back. I had a guy in college get carted off, like, gives the thumbs up. Like, you know, like, I'm all right, guys, like, you know, then he comes back out, like, a series later. It's like, dude, honestly, like, try to avoid that.

[PFT]

If I. If I was in the NFL, very first play, I would get stretchered off, and then I'd be like, oh, I'm actually not hurt. I'm hurt, but I'm not, like, injured. Okay, I'll try again. I just do that every play.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, do. Do it every game. Everyone thinks you're done ever. Then you just come right back.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Our friend Trill Weather's always. I always think about his funny tweet where he's like, if. If he got injured, he would. He wouldn't do the thumbs up. He'd do the thumbs down. Because it's like, dude, this sucks. Yeah, like, I'm getting carded up.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Someone breaks their leg and gets the thumbs up, you're like, not Good.

[Big Cat]

It's the best one. Like, it obviously sucks when injuries happen, but when one of the, like the chain gang gets hurt rolled up on and they. They give the thumbs up and it's like, all right, cool. We were worried.

[Trevor Lawrence]

There's probably a guy right behind you. That's. That could do it. Yeah, yeah, right?

[Big Cat]

Exactly. Next.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Those guys, I. I feel bad for some. Those guys that. Or like cam someone that's camera guys gets blasted.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Cuz they're just doing their job and then they. They like lose focus or they're focused on the play and then boom.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I ran over a trainer in college. Student trainer. Like, I got pushed out of bounds. So I did like the stumble where I stayed up and just full speed hit her. She had a concussion. She's out like two weeks.

[PFT]

Oh my God.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So I don't. She did not give the thumbs up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Thumbs down.

[PFT]

That security guards that are facing away from the play, like they're looking at the stands.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

They always get like the legs taken out.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Oh my gosh. In the end zone. Go out the back of the end zone. Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Speaking of your stadium, do you ever just like look up at the pool and be like, what's going on there?

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. The pools are funny. You get like a. Sometimes people's. You know when you're in the water and their legs look crazy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

You'll see that. I've seen that in games. It's wild.

[PFT]

It's because they're wearing jeans.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes jeans. Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Those pools, I mean, I'm sure they do a great job job cleaning them, but I don't know if I'd trust.

[Big Cat]

We've been in them. Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

In Jacksonville.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

How is it?

[PFT]

It was great.

[Big Cat]

Awesome.

[PFT]

Doug Marone was a lifeguard.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Doug Marone got in it with us.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So this was. It wasn't like it was off, it was offseason.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But we got in the pool.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Full jeans.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I think they're. I think they're keeping them with the new build, I hope.

[Big Cat]

Good.

[PFT]

That would.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's so unique. Like, you got to keep it.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Have it.

[PFT]

Do you do. Do you enjoy playing in London?

[Trevor Lawrence]

I do. I've gotten used to it. I mean, I've gone four times now and in the last two years we've played two games in a row there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So I kind of enjoy it. I mean, now, like, I have a six month old daughter, so that's a little different. Like being away from home, you know, before it'd be like Marissa would sometimes come out, so it's great. Like, you know, maybe see her once and then being in London's great. You get a cooler weather. We stay at a sick place. It's called the Grove. Out, like in the country. It's a great hotel. So we get. We have a good setup and we've kind of gotten used to it.

[Big Cat]

But.

[Trevor Lawrence]

But I think guys with like, families, like, it's tougher being away from home. But we only got the one game this year. We play LA out there.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT]

What's the, the sleep schedule like when you're out there? That's how we base our bets. It's like if a team leaves early in the week, then we're like, okay. They're going to be adjusting.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So we always leave late.

[Big Cat]

Huh?

[Trevor Lawrence]

And we, we usually play pretty well out there. Yeah, it's interesting. But we, we always leave Thursday night and land Friday morning.

[PFT]

So.

[Big Cat]

I mean. Yeah, I feel like that's that like, like for most of the teams, it's either you gotta leave like Sunday night right after the game or like you guys do it. It's the middle teams that like, get all kind of fucked up.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. There's like two thoughts. So we're going this year, new staff with Liam and the whole crew. Like, we're going on Monday night.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So we're going to get there earlier. So I don't know. I haven't done that before. I don't think that's bad to get adjusted either because you are, you're, you're, you're pretty tired. Like Friday, you get in, you do like a walkthrough and guys did. Barely slept on the plane and you're just trying to catch up. Up Saturday you get the day off and then you play Sunday, then you come home. So it's a, it's a quick turnaround, but there's some arguments. Like, you know, can you really get adjusted in time even if you go early? Like, I don't know. I don't really know the science behind it, but yeah.

[Big Cat]

Going back to the playoff win against the Chargers the next week, were you aware that you were undefeated on Saturdays going into that game?

[Trevor Lawrence]

I'd heard. Yeah, I'd heard that.

[Big Cat]

In your.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I didn't know.

[Big Cat]

In your entire career. Yeah. 36.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Pretty crazy.

[Big Cat]

Insane. That's an insane stat.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, I was. I wish that would have held up. Yeah, that would have been. That would have been fun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. Crazy.

[PFT]

It's a dumb question, but do you think maybe you didn't lose enough on Saturdays especially. Well, just.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT]

I know that sometimes if a guy like, they don't lose at all and then they get to the NFL, they're like, oh, you lose all the time in the NFL because everyone's really good.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, I don't, I. I mean, I think it's definitely an adjustment. You're so used to winning, so it can be frustrating. You know, you're not. You kind of have a. I don't want to say you have a different perspective on, I guess, how hard it is to win when you've only won. Like in high school, we won a lot. In college we won a lot. And then the margin's so small in the NFL and then it's a 17 game season. So it's like, when was the last undefeated team, the dolphins? In 72. Yeah. I mean, so that's been the last undefeated team, so it doesn't happen really. So being able to flush it and like play well the next week, I feel like I kind of, I got a good dose of that my rookie year trying to bounce back and like, because we went what, 3 and 14, so that definitely got me adjusted. But still, like, you want to have the mindset like you're going to win every game, so it's a fine line. But then after that is over, you got to flush it, win or loss. So that's a good point. I mean, I think there's something too though. Like, you want to be like, you want to have guys that have won, though. And like, you want to have that culture of guys that are like, you don't also want a bunch of guys that have only lost. Like, you know, you want to build your team around guys that have won.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I think there's two sides to it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

You just have to be able to like, figure out how to flush it. Like, do you for sure you flush it before you get home or does it take you, like you have to go to sleep?

[Trevor Lawrence]

It takes me, yeah. I have to like, I have to watch it. Like, I have to watch it when I get home. I know a lot of guys watch.

[Big Cat]

It then that night.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, if it's. Usually it's to up, up. I won't like take a long time, but I'll take like 20 minutes and I'll just flick through it because there's like certain plays where I'm like, this one, what. What happened on this one? Because you can't see on the sideline.

[Big Cat]

It's just pictures, right.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's like pre snap, middle of the play and Then maybe the very end, like, so it's hard to piece together everything, but I have to see, like, what went wrong or this decision I made. Like, what. What did I. What happened here? I saw. I thought I saw this, but it was something else. Like, that helps me sleep. Sleep when I can do that and see it and be like, all right, might have played terrible, but, like, I can at least flush and move on.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Does it ever get clogged when you're trying to flush it? You wake up the next morning, you're.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Like, sometimes this is a tough one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Tough game. Yeah. Sometimes it goes into Monday. Really? We'll, like, watch it. So we'll have some meetings Monday. Then you'll really. You can't flush it completely. Can't flush it too hard.

[Big Cat]

Right?

[Trevor Lawrence]

You gotta go watch it again.

[Big Cat]

Right. You're doing. You're doing. You're just doing, like, the. The flush because you're like, you know, this. Like, if you have a really bad lush, like, you know, there's of bunch. A big, big one. Yeah, I do one. One flush and then another flush later.

[PFT]

You do the push.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, it's like the small.

[PFT]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Right, right, right.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's like the small button, and then you do the big button on Monday.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT]

You want to. You want to still be able to smell it, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Reminder.

[Trevor Lawrence]

You want to linger in it a little bit.

[Big Cat]

I clogged my hotel room toilet last night, and there's no plunger, so I had to put my hand in a plastic bag. And then I don't know why I.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Didn'T call the front desk.

[Big Cat]

I don't know why I shared that.

[PFT]

Sometimes you got.

[Big Cat]

I don't know. I shouldn't have shared that. I should not have shared that.

[PFT]

Do you flush winds?

[Big Cat]

I put my hand in a bag, and then I just.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's a good question.

[Big Cat]

Flush that.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's disgusting.

[Big Cat]

Well, I mean, it was.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It was toilet.

[Big Cat]

It was just toilet paper, guys. I'd already flushed, like, four times.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Oh, okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So you're courtesy flush.

[Big Cat]

I mean, I have to. It's not courtesy. It's. Are you mandatory? Yeah. My wife isn't here yet, so. Yeah, yeah, no, I would have done that. I would have done that. I would have gone to the lobby. That's what. That's what I do when we. When you share an airport or when you share a hotel room.

[Zach]

Really?

[Big Cat]

Another. Yeah, you got to go to the lobby. You can't.

[Trevor Lawrence]

With your wife. You still go to.

[Big Cat]

To sometimes when you know it's bad you got it.

[Trevor Lawrence]

You're a good.

[Big Cat]

There's some that.

[Trevor Lawrence]

He's lucky to have you, man.

[Big Cat]

Listen, when you're in a hotel room, there are times when you take a dump and it will stay, like, linger.

[Trevor Lawrence]

For they do seem like they stay more in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I'll come back, like, two hours later, be like, who took. Oh, that was me. Who took it. Who. In my toilet, my room, when I was gone. All right. I shouldn't have shared that.

[PFT]

Whatever.

[Big Cat]

That's fine.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That was good.

[Big Cat]

What do you think about Urban Meer?

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's great. Perfect. Yeah, that's good.

[Big Cat]

Transient fly. Just flush that. Yeah, I. I do have a question about your nickname. We got to fix your nickname. The prince that was promised. That's too long.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Who's. So what. Why is that my nickname?

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[PFT]

Pro football reference.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay.

[Trevor Lawrence]

No one calls me that. I've never. To my face. I've never heard that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that would be very weird.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So I was like, oh, there comes a princess promise.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. It doesn't flow.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. T Law works.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT]

Lawrence of Everglade.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Ooh, Everglade.

[PFT]

Are you kind of close? They're not really close to the Everglades.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Florida's big state on it. Big state.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Fucking said that thing about the toilet.

[PFT]

No, it's fine. This is a free space. But do you flush the winds, too? Do you get home and you're like, I gotta. I gotta get rid of the bad plays from the winds.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, I'll watch the winds, too. I'll watch the winds, too.

[Big Cat]

Will you be like, whoa, that was a sick throw.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's nice to see the good place.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, for sure.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I mean, I'm not gonna lie. Like, it's. Yeah, those are fun to watch.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

They're fun than the battle. But you gotta watch them all. It's like. But it's. It's twisted. You wanna. It's like my brain is weird. Like, you wanna. I almost wanna see the bad ones more.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

You see the good ones, you're like, oh, sick. But it's like, you gotta see, like, those are the ones. If I don't watch those, like, that's. I could skip the good ones and be fine, but if I don't see the bad ones, it'll, like. It'll linger.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

You have a sickest throw.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Sickest throw.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's a good question.

[Big Cat]

Good question, man. Good question. Thank you.

[PFT]

We can come back to it. We can circle back.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Trying to think. You Might have flushed it flushed, dude, it's gone. Let's come back to it.

[PFT]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Big Cat]

You can just answer yes to this question, because then you'll look cool. If you had beaten LSU in the National Championship, would you have let us interview you the next morning? Drunk?

[Trevor Lawrence]

You guys did one with Joe.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. There we go. Good. Good answer. We were at that game. Yeah, it was.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, LSU was insane that I would.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I probably would have done an interview with you guys.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Love that you guys don't like to interview the guys that lost, though. So fun.

[PFT]

They typically don't want to.

[Big Cat]

They don't really want to get in.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't have done it.

[PFT]

Would you want to talk to us? Like, if you're.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That was brutal.

[PFT]

The worst loss of your life.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I wouldn't have talked to you guys.

[Big Cat]

All right, well, let's go through.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The positive. When you guys kick the shit out of Alabama, that had to feel awesome. That was no doubter.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That was fun, man.

[Big Cat]

And going into the game, it's like, still, hey, this is Alabama. They don't lose these games.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That was supposed to be. I mean, that team was stacked.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was.

[Trevor Lawrence]

To Devonta Smith, Judy Henry Ruggs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Irv Smith, Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris. Defense. They. They had some ballers on defense, too. I mean, Quinn and Williams, they had a ton of guys, but that was supposed to be, like, the. One of the best teams ever. So we felt like Coach Sweeney, another thing come back to him that he was great at. He always made us feel like the underdog, no matter what. It's like we hadn't lost all season, and it seemed like no one. He made us think that everyone thinks that we suck. So we're like, all right, we're gonna show. We're gonna show all these people. You know, it's like we could be playing, you know, Georgia Southern, like, early in the season. It'd be the same thing. Like, these guys don't think they can beat you.

[Big Cat]

What? So in that game, was there a moment when. Because you won 44, 16, I believe. Was there a moment. You're like, this is over. And we got this because it was. It did feel like a coronation at the end.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Towards the end.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I mean, probably not until we. I. I'd have to go back what. How the whole game went, but not towards it, because they were. They were really good. And they had a couple. They had a couple, like, huge touchdown plays. Like, we went up. We had a pick six early to put us up seven nothing. And then they went down through like a bomb to. I think it was Judy. Honestly, I can't remember who. Like a 60 yard touchdown. So it's like they were a little bit back and forth early. So like we're gonna have to score a lot to run away from. But yeah, towards the middle of beginning, middle of fourth quarter, we, we were, we were in a good spot.

[PFT]

Yeah, that's got me a great feeling.

[Trevor Lawrence]

We started doing some QB runs just to like rub it in a little bit. It was awesome. Yeah, great.

[PFT]

Did wait, would he make you feel like you're playing against Wake Forest? He'd be like, no one thinks that you guys can beat these guys.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, I mean not that exact line, but yeah, basically. I mean that type of thought. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

I love that. I don't know if anyone's ever told you this, but we uncovered a deep stat in the NFL goes back throughout the entire history of the league.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay, you don't want to listen to this.

[PFT]

Long haired quarterbacks have never won a Super Bowl.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Really?

[PFT]

Never.

[Trevor Lawrence]

What's the longest haired quarterback that's won a Super Bowl?

[PFT]

It might be Joe Namath and he was like shaggy.

[Big Cat]

Was, was Rothelberger had a half long.

[PFT]

It wasn't, it wasn't a long year.

[Big Cat]

No. He always lost when he lost.

[PFT]

Yeah. Long haired quarterbacks never won the big one.

[Big Cat]

What is this? What are you going through right now mentally? Let's talk about it.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I'll be right back. That's a, that's a, that's a crazy stat.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So you could look at it one way or the other. You could be like, hey, I'm going to be the first to break the mold or cut your hair and then you win a Super Bowl.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's the answer.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Statistically one or the other.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. Would you cut your hair?

[Trevor Lawrence]

I would. I don't know when though. Like Marissa likes me with long hair.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I had a buzz cut in eighth grade till like middle of ninth grade. She wasn't a big fan of that. So she's like, you need to keep it. I'm like, I'm not that attached. Like I would cut it it but I'm like, you know, she wants to keep long hair, I'll keep long hair. So yeah, I do. I mean now I'm used to. I don't have. I've had the same haircut since I was in 10th grade.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So I'm definitely more comfortable with it.

[PFT]

It would be nice as a Man with long hair to see. Finally somebody who looks like me when a super, like, representation matters.

[Trevor Lawrence]

All the long haired guys on my back.

[PFT]

Exactly. Yeah. Wait, would you. Would you cut your hair if you won a Super Bowl? Locks of love. Donate to the kids.

[Big Cat]

Super bowl winning quarter hair would be pretty sick.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I'd say yes to that. Locks, love. I mean.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you match.

[PFT]

I'll match. You'll match if you do it, I'll match.

[Big Cat]

We got to do it together, and we'll do it like the Max is doing. Max just matched as well. Wow. Holy match.

[PFT]

Think how many little kids out there.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Super bowl. We all cut our hair.

[Big Cat]

All three of you? Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

How long have you been growing your hair out?

[Hank]

Since senior, like, senior of college, so six years.

[PFT]

I'm like 13 years. 12 years.

[Big Cat]

This is serious.

[Trevor Lawrence]

You guys get cuts though, though.

[PFT]

Yeah, I get. Get trimmed up.

[Hank]

I don't want to do. I. I'm only doing this if you do it just because I needed to say I wanted to match, to be honest.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, no, that's great, Kyle. You guys put me on the screen.

[PFT]

Well, you could say no, and then we just shame you for not donating your hair to kids.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I'm gonna. Let's. Let's circle back to this. I'm interested.

[Big Cat]

This is all you winning a Super Bowl. Like, that's.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I love it. I would be. I'd be thrilled to cut my hair.

[Big Cat]

I think you got to say yes right now.

[PFT]

You know what I like, though? I. I like that the reason why you're so hesitant is because you truly believe that you will win a Super Bowl.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

You.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You're consider.

[PFT]

Like, if you were to ask me that, I'd say, yeah, whatever.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. It's like, that's not a good answer.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. All right. I mean, I think. I think we got awesome. You got to do it, though.

[PFT]

Think about it. Over.

[Trevor Lawrence]

We're circling back to that.

[PFT]

Okay. Think about this. Finally all your lookalikes will stop being women.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. True.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Great point.

[Big Cat]

Does that weird you out?

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's actually a great.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

There's one. As you guys seen the one I'm.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That one was crazy. That one look a lot like me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

And it's like, just like enough to piss me off. I'm like, dude, some of them, I'm like, she doesn't. She doesn't look like me. Her. I'm like, damn, it does look like me.

[PFT]

Yep.

[Trevor Lawrence]

But she was. She was at like every game and it was a little weird. I'm like, all right, can you. Can you stop? Like, we're getting off the bus for the game, trying to get ready, and, like, I've seen you, like, 10 times. Like, dude, it was tough. I don't know if that's worse for me or her. Honestly. Honestly, yeah.

[PFT]

If your wife. Girlfriend at the time, was she. Was she, like, jealous of her or was she like. That's weird.

[Trevor Lawrence]

What do you mean, jealous of her?

[PFT]

Like, I don't know, because she's like. I would assume that if there's a girl that likes you so much, she's dedicating her life to dressing up like you. She probably likes you a little bit too much.

[Trevor Lawrence]

No, I think Marissa, she definitely wasn't jealous. She was def. She was more like. That's just weird.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Especially after the first time. It's like, all right, get it. First time I met her, I got getting off the bus, literally before home game. She's there, Jersey headband. And I already heard about her. I'd been prepped. I'm like, all right, take a picture. Like, we do look similar. Thought that was the end of it. No, she came back a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

And so it was. First I was like, all right. It's kind of weird.

[PFT]

I'd say so.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT]

It's the price. When you have long hair, it's like, it's probably. You're a little bit taller than me, maybe like a couple inches. But sometimes people see the back of your head.

[Big Cat]

A couple.

[PFT]

And you're sitting down at dinner, and the waitress comes up, and they're go, excuse me, ma'.

[Big Cat]

Am.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Exactly. That happened to me in Jacksonville. And it was. We had just sat down to eat lunch somewhere, and she comes up to the table. She's like, man, would you like anything? And I like, turn around. She's like, just runs off.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Runs off.

[Big Cat]

Who are you with?

[Trevor Lawrence]

Marissa.

[Big Cat]

Okay, because. All right, that's good, because he. It's happened a couple times to him when he's with us, and it's bad.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's not bad. That's like, worst case scenario.

[PFT]

These guys forget about it so fast.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

They probably never bring it up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

If you're. If you're with Steakhouse in Vegas, it was a Brazilian steakhouse.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

And if you're at a table and it's like three girls and you. And then the waitress comes up and she goes, hey, ladies. That's a bad situation, too. That's happened to me once or twice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

No, it's happened to me a few times.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

I was just going to say that's. That's the most embarrassing moment for that waitress ever, because not only did they screw up a man or a woman, but it's also. It's Trevor Lawrence in Jackson.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. When I turned around, she wasn't happy with herself, but I thought it was funny. Like, that stuff doesn't bother me. But I did feel. Honestly, I felt bad for. Even though I guess I was the one that was. I don't want to say insulted, but I felt more bad for her because it was so awkward.

[PFT]

Right.

[Trevor Lawrence]

So since she comes back, like, five minutes later, and it's just didn't really address it. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All right. Well, Trevor, this has been awesome. I got one last question for you. Roback question. R H, O-B-A-K.com promo code, take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, jogger shorts. Roback.com promo code, take. How bad was it that I shared that toilet thing?

[Trevor Lawrence]

I thought it was great. I thought it was one of the best parts of the interview.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right. My real last question is, are you. Are you aware of the lore of the kid who got his head stuck in the jaguar statue?

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, because I'm. Yes.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Because we interviewed him.

[Trevor Lawrence]

What year was that?

[Big Cat]

That was in 90.

[PFT]

Was it like 90 or early 2000s?

[Big Cat]

We interviewed him last year.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It was, like, early enough to where no one had tried it yet. Everyone knows that.

[Big Cat]

You. You can't.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah, it's gonna get stuck.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. So, yeah, I know about it because our security guy, Skip Richardson, he's the man. He's awesome.

[Big Cat]

Shout Skip.

[Trevor Lawrence]

It's been there since the team started. He pulled his head out of it.

[Big Cat]

Oh, he was the one who did it.

[Trevor Lawrence]

He has a. He has an article in his office about it.

[Big Cat]

That's amazing.

[PFT]

1997.

[Big Cat]

1997.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Yeah. That was two years in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. So, yeah.

[Trevor Lawrence]

That's incredible.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we. We met him last year on Grit Week. He, like, just came up to us at a bar. He's like, you'll never believe who I am. I was like, what? Like, you can't. You can't. You. I'm. I'm not gonna be shocked by this. He's like, I'm the kid who got his head stuck. And then we verified it, and we're like, what the.

[Trevor Lawrence]

How old is he now?

[Big Cat]

He's, like, 30.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Awesome.

[Big Cat]

And we. And we interviewed him. So what? Max, He's. How old is he?

[Hank]

That math didn't add.

[Big Cat]

So he was.

[Hank]

He was definitely older than whatever.

[Big Cat]

You don't have to talk about whatever. He is 35. He's 35.

[Hank]

No, he was older than 2 when he got his head.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Probably like, he's probably, like 30.

[Big Cat]

He's probably 35. 35.

[Hank]

35. We. I didn't need to.

[Big Cat]

I didn't need to say that. Oh, that's okay. That was actually the worst part of the interview. Not me talking about the toilet. If he was too.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Probably wouldn't have got stuck.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But, yeah, you gotta. He's got to be part of the. When you guys win the super bowl, you got to shave your head and then he's got to be on the parade float.

[Trevor Lawrence]

I love that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

And you also have to come on part of my take the morning after because you already said that you do it after the next championship if you. Unless you.

[Big Cat]

Unless you deal.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Super bowl is better than that championship. So.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Do it.

[Big Cat]

Yes. I think that's all right.

[Trevor Lawrence]

All right, I'm in.

[Big Cat]

Trevor, this has been awesome, man.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Thank you guys for having me. Been too long.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I know. We were trying. We've been trying to do this for a few years. You're the man. And we're big fans and. And have a great season.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Appreciate you guys. This was fun, man.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

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[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT]

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[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, let's wrap up the show. So we talked about this last week. Zach has some admirers. So the original admirer of Zach, Zach, turns out she's married. Kind of like, I didn't know she got down like that.

[PFT]

Tough look for her husband.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, tough look for her husband. But then we had a new admirer of Zach who posted a video essentially being like, I want to take Zach out on a date. And this woman is extremely hot. I thought for a second, Zach, that it was Jessica Chastain. And I was going to fight you because she. I love her. And I was like, what the fuck, Zach? What are we gonna do?

[Memes]

Yes, there was a kind woman named Rachel who made a video saying that she would be open to possibly going on a date with me. I believe the course of action may be message Rachel back and see, you know, when in the near future, relative, near future, schedules permitting, when she would be open to going on.

[Big Cat]

On a date. So we're gonna do a date.

[Memes]

I think we may be going on.

[Big Cat]

A date here soon, boys. Fuck, yeah. All right.

[PFT]

She's a Pilates instructor.

[Memes]

That is correct. She does instruct Pilates to workout classes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, she's very attractive. Could we say that? We're allowed to say that.

[PFT]

I think she looks like a lovely young woman. She looks like she's driven, she's ambitious, and most importantly, she's got great taste in dudes.

[Memes]

She's hot in the most respectful way possible. Yes. Rachel's a very good looking woman, but she looks like she has a great head on her shoulders. We're teaching these Pilates classes. Very kind when she speaks.

[PFT]

Great head on great shoulders Now.

[Big Cat]

Yes, Rachel, Zach, you also. So you're not nervous. Although you did tell me that the last date you were on Actually, the girl canceled it, right?

[Memes]

It wasn't like a cancellation. It was like, I thought I had went on a date this one time, and then later on in life, I was like, yeah, that date went terrible. Didn't I apologize for that date going so poorly? When we go on this next date, it might go better. And she. And she was just like, oh, you thought that was a date? And that was my only confirmed date.

[PFT]

She retroactively canceled the date.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, she tried to strike it from the record.

[Trevor Lawrence]

How'd you go?

[Zach]

Where'd you go?

[Hank]

What did she say? That it was like.

[Memes]

So we. It was. This is. We just went and got, like, drinks.

[Big Cat]

That's a.

[Hank]

That's a date. This chick for saying that.

[Big Cat]

That.

[Hank]

That's not a date.

[Memes]

She's super cool. Super kind. Shout out to her, too.

[Big Cat]

Nice. But.

[Memes]

But I thought it was a date, too. And she was like, oh, you thought that was a date? And I did. That was my only confirmed date. And then that was. Has been retract. Strucken from the record.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no. We're putting it on the record.

[Hank]

It was just the two of you.

[Memes]

It was one v, one drinks.

[Hank]

Yes.

[PFT]

It was a solo.

[Big Cat]

Smash her up. Yeah. One v, one drinks. All right, so, Zach, I think part of this is like, you. You are very funny. And by the way, best eyes on the podcast.

[PFT]

Great eyes.

[Big Cat]

I'm gonna say it right now. If you have striking. If you don't have. If you haven't gotten a look at Zach's eyes, like, close up, baby blue, Caribbean blue eyes. Incredible eyes.

[Memes]

Appreciate you saying that, big cat.

[Big Cat]

Yes, I got you. But she. This girl asked you out on a date. She already likes the vibe of Zach. You just have to be you. And you're gonna. And if you'd be you, I'm not gonna get graphic, but just be you.

[Memes]

The date could go well. We could have a good time. Like, maybe go second date.

[PFT]

I think that's a good goal.

[Memes]

But we gotta get. We gotta go date one first.

[Big Cat]

What did I tell you? You only have one. You're gonna only have one decision to make on this date, and she could.

[Memes]

Have already backpedaled and been like, I don't want to go on a date anymore.

[Big Cat]

You know, that's a territory even.

[PFT]

Don't put that out there, Zach. She's. She's into you, so you got to figure out what would be a good first date.

[Memes]

I was thinking we. We could run. We could run drinks if she's open to that.

[Big Cat]

Maybe, like, it's kind of video game.

[Zach]

Yeah, they run duos on cod.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[Memes]

I don't know how that would go. I only have one controller.

[Big Cat]

I think we get drinks.

[PFT]

What about laser tag?

[Hank]

Let's start with drinks. Start with drinks.

[Memes]

I like that, Maggie. I like that.

[Hank]

Just a happy hour, a few drinks. Not. Nothing crazy.

[PFT]

Maybe just wondering what. Start with one drink, and then if it's good, then you go two.

[Hank]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Well. Well.

[Hank]

Oh, that. Okay.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT]

Well, two drinks total.

[Hank]

I thought you were going to say, like, each date you just add one drink.

[PFT]

No, no, I'm saying, like, that'd be funny.

[Big Cat]

It's like a. After dark. Yeah. If you marry this chick and you just become a violent alcoholic. Oh, no. So.

[PFT]

So, Zach, just. Just because it's drinks. You don't have to have a drink if you don't. You don't want an alcoholic drink. What would you get? What would you get to drink? What's your move?

[Memes]

It depends if we do like, a middle of the day or like an evening situation.

[Big Cat]

I think it's the evening.

[Memes]

Evening. I like maybe like a nice little tequila soda. Maybe a cognac situation.

[PFT]

Oh, man of class.

[Big Cat]

All right, so, Zach, what are we replying to her right now? We should be like, hey, you want to get drinks?

[Memes]

What should I say? Should I just be like, hello, Rachel. How are you today? I was thinking.

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Yes. He has to be Zach. She likes Zach. This is how. This is who Zach is. Let Zach be Zach.

[Big Cat]

All right, so you just.

[Memes]

How should we start this?

[Big Cat]

I think what you just said was, hello, Rachel. How are you today?

[PFT]

I saw the video.

[Big Cat]

I saw the video. Yeah. And then you just say it out. Say out loud what you're writing. I think it's going to be great. Dude, he's gonna. He's gonna crush this.

[PFT]

This is gonna be good.

[Hank]

He said, hello, Rachel. Hope your weekend went well.

[Big Cat]

I don't know.

[Hank]

He wasn't speaking, so I was just going.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, you.

[Memes]

My bad. I was thinking. I was trying to. I was brain. I was brain shopping. Or now I was work shopping. I was work shopping.

[Big Cat]

I like brain.

[Hank]

Brain shopping. Play brain shop.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Just stopping in a few stores.

[Big Cat]

See?

[Hank]

But you're off to a great start. You're off to a great start. Hope your weekend went well. Is a.

[Big Cat]

Is a good line. Solid. Yeah. Okay.

[PFT]

It's appropriate timing because. What do you got next Sunday?

[Hank]

Was wondering. Oh, no, he just deleted. Was wondering.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[Hank]

If you are still open to going on a date.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Together.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

What days work best for you?

[Big Cat]

I like It. That's it. Just leave it at that. Back at her because now she's got a reply.

[Hank]

That purple button misspell.

[Memes]

Checking hold on.

[PFT]

Her Pilates schedule.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT]

Probably like unconventional. Let her tell you what date she's available. That's good.

[Big Cat]

Exactly.

[PFT]

We'll make it work in ours.

[Big Cat]

The only thing we got to make sure is you can like. Let's hope this goes well. You can't be in a Pilates studio. You got to be like four or five dates deep before we get you in a Pilates studio. I don't feel comfortable with having putting you in a Pilates studio. And I say that from someone who. I will never do Pilates in my life as well.

[Memes]

If I end up in a Pilates studio, we probably won't go on another date because I don't have Pilates in my repertoire of physicality or physical activity. I just don't have that.

[Hank]

No core strength. I have an idea. If she does want you to go into a Pilates studio at some point. Point all of us have to do a practice Pilates here.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

And we'll video us doing. Trying to do Pilates here.

[Big Cat]

We'll get a different Pilates instructor and we'll workshop it. Yeah.

[Hank]

Because you're going to need to do some sort of pre Pilates before you correct Pilates. But that's.

[Big Cat]

Let's not.

[Hank]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[Memes]

I love that group date. 6v6.

[Big Cat]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[PFT]

I think we start at 1v1.

[Big Cat]

No, we're saying that we will be like. Like Nathan for you. Rehearsal Pilates.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So that when you get to the first place. Because I. I've never done Pilates. I've never been in the same room as Pilates. If you put me in that room, I would probably say things that are stupid, ask dumb questions. We need to. We'll work that out for you.

[Hank]

I also think it would be funny to see all of us try and do Pilates now.

[PFT]

Zach. We could also do the simulation before the first date where you run through it with somebody in you practice.

[Memes]

Is. You think it makes most sense to just save any date potential I have for the date. Like what if I. What if I have a good. An okay performance on the practice date and then I'm just in. So then I have no performance on the real date.

[PFT]

But do you think that having a good.

[Big Cat]

You can't put your.

[Zach]

We can't put his best material out there.

[Big Cat]

But do. I'm limited, guys.

[PFT]

Is that Gonna give you more confidence going to the date if you have a really good run through.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, maybe.

[Zach]

I think he's saying, like, do it off. Like, do it. We don't put it out till after the date comes out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

We might burn.

[PFT]

I don't even think we put it out. I think that we just. We run the simulation.

[Big Cat]

We just want you, I think, to have a great time.

[Memes]

I think we just have to wait and see if Rachel's still open to possibly going on a date. And if she says she would like to do that, then me and Rachel go on a date, and then we'll see how that goes.

[Big Cat]

I think you just be yourself, and she's going to be head over here. I told you, you got one decision you got to make on this date.

[Memes]

It's a first date. No early celebrations. We're waiting for the DM back.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[PFT]

Is it sent?

[Big Cat]

We did not drink the champagne early.

[Hank]

Officially.

[Big Cat]

Sent. Sent.

[Memes]

We have sent.

[Big Cat]

All right. Good for you, Zach. This feels good.

[Memes]

Yeah. I'm looking forward to getting to know Rachel.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[Hank]

You're gonna be so polite on this date. It's gonna be the most polite date of all time.

[Memes]

Everybody's polite on first dates, right?

[Hank]

No, you are the most polite, and she's gonna love it. She's gonna love it.

[Big Cat]

Zach, let's try to stay out of the kitchen on this date.

[Memes]

What's up?

[Big Cat]

Let's try to stay out of the kitchen. Like the incident in Applebee's.

[Memes]

I was just going to tell Anne that Anna. I was going to tell Ms. Anna that we enjoyed the her service.

[Big Cat]

The boys went to Applebee's to end chill week, and our server came, and it was like. It was almost like a fine dining experience, which I respect her for. She took all of our appetizers and didn't take our entrees, and we were confused, and we're like, wait, is she gonna also take our entrees? I was like, zach, go. Go tell her that we have a lot more to order. And then Zach just came back, like, 15 seconds later, shaking his head, and I was like, what happened? He's like, I ran after her, and I got all the way into the kitchen, and they started yelling at me because I was standing in the middle of the kitchen.

[Memes]

So I just went too deep.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's just.

[Hank]

But you learning experience.

[Big Cat]

You just learning directions, which I love about you. Go get Anna. You were gonna go to the end of the earth. Earth to get her.

[Memes]

She did come back for the.

[Big Cat]

She was phenomenal Phenomenal.

[Memes]

Fantastic.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Loved having her. All right, good show, boys. Got some good, good interviews coming up this week. And, oh, takeies on Friday. So smash this. If you haven't subscribed to the YouTube, if you haven't subscribed to all of our. Where you get the podcast. Takeies are on Friday. Friday. Officially. Takeies are coming on Friday. Okay. Number three.

[PFT]

I think that was me.

[Big Cat]

I think that was. I think you said a number. I think you just said.

[Hank]

No, that was me.

[PFT]

Number three.

[Hank]

I can see it. I can see it on the waves. That was Memes.

[Big Cat]

No way.

[PFT]

No, no, that's four.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wait, no, he's.

[PFT]

I can't tell.

[Hank]

I still think it's me.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT]

I don't even think.

[Zach]

PFT says it sounded like me.

[Big Cat]

Pug.

[Zach]

I hate to say it.

[Hank]

I think it was Memes.

[Big Cat]

Hugs. Taking a look, he blurted out. That's first. Right? Wait, go up.

[PFT]

What do we got, Pug?

[Hank]

Oh, wait, no, it actually was bfd. Oh, yeah, I know, exactly. You can see yours.

[Big Cat]

Mine was gone. No, mine was gone.

[Hank]

No, yours was not gone.

[Big Cat]

What would you have guessed?

[Hank]

I. I thought it was you, but I guess three.

[Big Cat]

But PFT didn't even say.

[PFT]

No, I said three.

[Hank]

No, no, it was BFT.

[Big Cat]

Mushmouth.

[PFT]

So three.

[Big Cat]

Six.

[Zach]

77.

[Big Cat]

I'll do 59.

[Hank]

26.

[Big Cat]

I. I don't know. 99. Pug.

[Memes]

44.

[Big Cat]

51. 21. 62. What would have happened there if it was three? I thought it was gonna be three. What would have happened?

[PFT]

I think I would have attacked pfc.

[Big Cat]

I think you would have had to attack.

[PFT]

Yeah, absolutely. Cage.

[Hank]

No, it would have been my fault.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah, it would have been your fault. Yeah.

[Hank]

No, but I. I was the one that ruled that it was you.

[PFT]

So, Memes, who do you kill first?

[Hank]

Me?

[Big Cat]

Always. Max.

[Hank]

Well, no, actually, he would kill. Kill Shane first.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We should probably all do a blind poll of who we. What order. We'd kill people. And then we could just get. We could.

[Hank]

I think we could figure out.

[PFT]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Through the blind pole.

[Big Cat]

Who's. Who's.

[Trevor Lawrence]

Who's who.

[PFT]

I bet we could, too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[PFT]

Pug would just be heartbreaking.

[Big Cat]

No, Pug would pick.

[Trevor Lawrence]

No.

[Hank]

Yeah, Zach would for sure pick no one.

[Big Cat]

No, he would pick himself. He absolutely would. I just want the boys to have a good time. I don't want to be. I don't want to be in their way. Way. All right, see you on Wednesday.

[PFT]

Love you guys.

[Big Cat]

Sam, it. Sam. Sa.