UConn Head Coach Dan Hurley, April Fools Has Everyone On Alert, NFL League Meetings, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Chicks

Summary

Pardon My Take – UConn Head Coach Dan Hurley, April Fools Has Everyone On Alert, NFL League Meetings, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Chicks

Date: April 1, 2026
Hosts: Big Cat, PFT Commenter (Barstool Sports)
Guest: UConn Head Coach Dan Hurley

Episode Overview

This jam-packed episode captures the chaotic essence of April Fools’ Day, blending signature PMT banter, a prank segment with Jerry O’Connell, an in-depth NFL league meetings recap, NBA discourse, and a feature interview with UConn head coach Dan Hurley fresh off a dramatic Elite Eight win. The hosts and crew bounce between sports headlines, tournament storylines, and their ongoing inside jokes, while managing some surprisingly heartfelt and hilarious moments along the way.

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Main Segments & Timestamps

1. April Fools' Hijinks & Geno Smith Prank (03:14–21:19)

• Build-Up: The team discusses past April Fools’ pranks, with Max nervously on guard.
• The Prank: Jerry O’Connell calls in, pretending (poorly) to be Geno Smith in a fake interview, complete with cringe accents and cliché answers.
  • ["He's gonna fall for it big time." - Big Cat, 05:19]
  • ["I've never laughed harder in the history of this show." - PFT Commenter, 12:04]
• Reveal: The punchline is a reverse prank—Jerry thought he was tricking Memes, but the group was in on it, culminating in playful jabs and self-deprecating laughter.
  • ["That was a double doink." - Jerry O’Connell, 15:27]

2. NFL League Meetings Recap (21:32–36:44)

• Coach’s Photo Day: Over-analysis of the annual head coaches’ photo—‘the McVay Effect’ and the new breed of pretty-boy NFL coaches.
  • ["The NFL problem is guys are too good-looking. Call it the McVay effect." – Big Cat, 22:16]
• Hard Knocks Announcement: Seahawks and Patriots named for the next two years; skepticism about the advance scheduling.
• Referees’ Labor Drama: Discussion about NFL referee salaries and negotiations.
• 18-Game Schedule: Owners’ push for more international and regular season games, met with skepticism.
  • ["18 games is going to lead to 20 games… everything the NFL does is a test." – Big Cat, 34:40]
• Schedule Implications: Speculation about Super Bowl dates and the league’s strategy to expand the calendar.

3. NBA Discourse: MVP, Game-Minimum Rules & Standings (44:50–63:00)

• The Joel Embiid Rule: Max launches into a passionate, garbled monologue about the 65-game MVP eligibility, load management, and the legacy of Embiid.
  • ["I don't memorize his fucking stats!" – Max, 51:24]
  • Ongoing confusion and fact-checking chaos ("We've learned nothing. It's good." – Big Cat, 61:19)
• Wemby for MVP: Ongoing debates about Victor Wembanyama’s MVP viability despite missed games.
• Eastern Conference Playoff Race: Boston/Philly/NYK scenarios and bachelor party anxieties.

4. Sports Headlines & Miscellaneous Chatter (46:00–85:00)

• Drake Maye’s Shaved Head: Charity, not crisis.
• Anthony Edwards' Pre-game Bathroom Break: Classic PMT digression.
• SGA Foul Call: Disbelief over Oklahoma City’s reaction.
• Wild Ballpark Foods: Debate over pizza donuts and ballpark culinary excesses.
• Savory vs. Sweet Dilemma: Extended riff on nighttime eating habits and food combinations.

5. Interview: UConn Head Coach Dan Hurley (86:58–129:40)

Key Highlights:

• Elite Eight Win: Hurley dissects the emotional, tactical, and superstitious aspects of beating Duke.
  • ["It was not a headbutt … more of a nuzzle, an affectionate nuzzle." – Dan Hurley, 87:29]
• Relationship with Referees: Explains his unique rapport with Roger Ayers, the ref at the heart of the viral ‘headbutt’ moment.
• Locker Room Dynamics: Importance of not letting halftime deficits get demoralizing; Hurley's own blackout after the winning shot.
• Superstitions: Details on his shrine, lucky pin, and game-day routines.
  • ["Championship locker room experience prepares you to be smart in that moment." – Dan Hurley, 103:02]
• Family Reactions: Mother’s and wife’s viral moments and involvement are discussed with warmth and humor.
• Coaching Philosophy: Emphasis on toughness, responsibility in player development, and the ‘battle’ mindset.
  • ["You want emotion, you want competitive fire—what do you want them to do, treat it like it’s not war?" – Dan Hurley, 116:52]

6. Hot Seat/Cool Throne (67:03–85:16)

• Jordan’s Furniture Promo: Risky bet that both UConn teams would reach the finals could mean refunds for many customers.
• Protein Hookah: PFT’s “bro culture” innovation from Saudi Arabia.
• Jordan Hudson’s Cheer Championship: Shoutout for PMT’s favorite “winner.”
• Tiger Woods & Mark Cuban: Latest controversies, woes, and speculation over their futures.
• Big Cat’s Fasting Journey: Fasting, gut biomes, and the relentless pursuit of “new you.”

7. Guys on Chicks & Listener Questions (133:42–end)

• Billy Strings Encounter: An awkward yet proud listener confession.
• Platonic Guy Friends: Dissection of innuendo-laden male-female friendships.
• Hot Tub Etiquette: How many dudes are too many in a hotel spa?
• Life Updates & Friendship Initiatives: The crew’s earnest but comedic efforts to make non-podcast friends and encourage dating for Zach.
• Listener Golf Course Design Proposal: Every “18th” should be a gettable par 5—endorsed by all.

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Memorable Quotes

• On April Fools’ Chaos:
  “We’re reversing... It’s PTSD, I’m just reminding myself how much of an idiot I...” – Max (04:46)
  "I've never laughed harder in the history of this show." – PFT Commenter (12:04)

• On NFL League Meetings/Coaches Photo:
  “The McVay tree has made offensive football fantastic… but it’s also made a bunch of pretty boys.” – Big Cat (22:16)

• On Superstitions:
  “I have a little shrine in the locker room before the game… all my essential oils.” – Dan Hurley (101:17)

• On Coaching Intensity:
  "You want intensity. You want emotion. You want your coaches and your players looking at the game or not looking at it like it's a battle, like it's war, like it's the zero sum game that it is.” – Dan Hurley (116:52)

• On Platonic Friendships:
  “If they're making a bunch of sexual innuendos, they probably want to bang.” – Big Cat (135:35)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment | Highlights | |-----------|-----------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------| | 03:14 | April Fools & Geno Smith prank | Jerry O'Connell’s call-in, prank drama | | 21:32 | NFL League Meetings | Coaches photo, Hard Knocks announcement | | 44:50 | NBA Discourse & MVP Rule | Intense 65-game rule argument, Embiid/Wemby | | 86:58 | Dan Hurley Interview | Elite Eight, superstitions, coaching philosophy | | 67:03 | Hot Seat/Cool Throne | UConn promos, Tiger Woods, protein hookah, fasting| | 133:42 | Guys on Chicks | Listener stories, hot tub code, Zach’s dating life|

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

• Authentic & Chaotic: PMT stays true to form—quick-witted, irreverent, but also sincerely passionate about both sports minutiae and life’s ridiculous moments.
• Community Vibe: The camaraderie—both in the crew’s rapport and with their guests (Dan Hurley’s candid answers, Jerry O’Connell’s goofball willingness)—is a hallmark.
• Deep Sports Knowledge Veined with Absurdity: Even when a segment spirals (like the Embiid rule debate), the show’s blend of deep expertise and joyful confusion is on full display.

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For Newcomers:

If you missed this episode, you missed:

• An April Fools’ Day meta-prank involving Jerry O’Connell’s impression of Geno Smith.
• An expert breakdown of the wild UConn-Duke finish by Dan Hurley, including what really went down with the head-ref nuzzle.
• Hot takes on the NFL’s endless expansion and the swath of “pretty boy” coaches.
• A feverish and unresolved debate about NBA MVP eligibility.
• All the weird, wonderful food, sport, and friendship tangents that make PMT the most conversational sports show in podcasting.

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PMT’s Advice, in Their Own Words

• On April Fools: “April Fools is the funniest day in the world.” – Big Cat
• On Toughness & Resilience: “College is really the last place that these guys are going to learn anything… you better be equipped to succeed and handle everything.” – Dan Hurley
• On Sweet vs. Savory Nighttime Eating: “The hardest thing... figuring out what I end with, savory or sweet.” – Big Cat

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Catch the full episode for: signature bits (“Guys on Chicks” & Hot Seat/Cool Throne), genuine moments of sports insight, and the best April Fools prank recap you’ll hear all year.

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Transcript

[Big Cat]

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[Big Cat]

Advisor on today's part of my take presented by DraftKings we have coach Dan Hurley, our good friend on the show. Awesome interview with Coach Hurley. We talk about everything. The shot, the moment UConn's run, the headbutt slash nuzzling with Roger Ayers, the lead official in the game. It was a great interview. We answered a lot of questions. We also are going to do a lot of national sports podcast topics bounce around the owners meeting. The NFL is meeting right now in Arizona. The coach's picture is out. We have Hot Seat, Cool Throne and then we're gonna finish the show. We got a couple special things. We have guys on Chicks which is always special, but we also have some card rips that we're doing from our sponsor whatnot. So we're gonna. We're gonna be we all have a pack of cards and we're trying to find our favorite QBs. So tune in for that as well and it is on. All brought to you by our great friends at Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real Brewed tea and 5% alcohol. Twisted tea is the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long. Whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar or day drinking with friends. Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch. Make a good time, a great time. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today. The original the Half and Half the Peach. It's Twisted Tea season. The weather has turned. We're ready to go Go get a twisted tea today. It's absolutely delicious. You will not be disappointed. Tell them part my take sent you with twisted tea. Okay, let's go. Hey, football guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Martin m. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, April 1st. Max,

[Max]

my guard's up.

[Big Cat]

Max.

[Max]

What? My card is up.

[Big Cat]

What's your guard about? What? I was asking you, Max. Comment on the Phillies.

[Max]

Phillies are bad. But it is April 1st. The guard is up.

[PFT Commenter]

So wait, are you. Are you April Fools in us about

[Max]

the Phillies being bad?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that was good one, dude. No, look behind you. There's literally nothing.

[PFT Commenter]

Gotcha, Major.

[Big Cat]

I gotcha. What a.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone's tuning in. Like, I wonder what they're gonna get Max with this year. Oh, oldest trick. Max, you spilled some on your shirt. Oh, gotcha.

[Big Cat]

Gotcha.

[Max]

I didn't look. I thought about.

[Big Cat]

Did you get that on camera?

[Max]

I didn't look.

[PFT Commenter]

I think your head looked. Your eyes stayed up.

[Max]

Yes.

[Geno Smith]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

We don't have anything planned for this year. Last year was organic, if anything.

[Hank]

Yeah, Jerry planned it.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, Jerry. Jerry also tried to plan this year's April Fools, but it.

[Max]

It.

[PFT Commenter]

It was not going to work out.

[Big Cat]

He said. Jerry texted pft. And I said, guys, think about an April Fools. Gino calling in for memes. I would have actually liked to hear that. Boozer calling in for Hank. Fred Ridley for Hank. And then he signed to Jerry. O.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. All right. Now I actually have an idea for an April Fools. We play the April Fools on Jerry. What if we get Jerry to call in as Gino for memes and memes? You. You act like you're going along with it. Like you can't believe that. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Okay. All right.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you do that, Memes?

[Big Cat]

I'm in. All right.

[Hank]

Gino's the new Joshua.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you mean?

[Hank]

She. Aaron.

[PFT Commenter]

Aaron. Glenn's quote I did.

[Big Cat]

He said he's going to take us to the promised land. All right, Wait.

[PFT Commenter]

That's huge.

[Big Cat]

So, wait, I just texted Jerry, and we're gonna hopefully have him call in at some point in the show as Gino to try to trick memes. That's what he thinks. Memes. You're going to go along with it, Maybe ask for, like, a signed jersey, like, really lean into it. But then the trick will be on Jerry. This is great. Yeah, this is.

[PFT Commenter]

He's gonna. He's gonna fall for.

[Big Cat]

He's gonna fall for it big time. You got it. Means you gotta fucking sell this.

[PFT Commenter]

I can't wait to hear His Gina voice. Oh, I'm sure it'll be great.

[Big Cat]

Gino's gonna be incredible. He's maybe offensive. We don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it might sound kind of like Big Tom.

[Big Cat]

It probably is. Probably gonna be no Hamas.

[Max]

Not do April Fool's anymore. April Fools is lame.

[PFT Commenter]

You're. You're lame. What?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. April Fools is the funniest day in the world.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, this is actually the best we're getting. The April Fool's guy with an April Fool's joke.

[Big Cat]

We're reversing.

[Max]

I know, but it's ptsd. It's just reminding me of how much of an idiot I.

[Big Cat]

You went to the White House?

[Max]

Come on.

[PFT Commenter]

No Hamas. No Hamas.

[Big Cat]

How did I think that was a partner? I forgot.

[Hank]

You actually went to the White House.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we. We did it. Jerry did April Fools. That got Max to go to the White House. It's great. Okay. How we doing, boys? How. What?

[Max]

It was pity White House. It was pity.

[Big Cat]

It was pity White House. Yeah, it was big time pity White House.

[Max]

I know.

[Hank]

That's why.

[Max]

Whatever. Let's.

[Big Cat]

You're like the. You're like the USA Women's team pity White House.

[Max]

I. You said that. I didn't say that.

[Big Cat]

Well, actually, I didn't say it. It was a call back to Trump's joke. So it was a call. It's called the callback. You may.

[PFT Commenter]

You made partner at the White House.

[Big Cat]

He made partner at the White House.

[PFT Commenter]

But congrats on the Phillies.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, congrats to the Phillies.

[PFT Commenter]

Job with the Phillies, Max.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. Memes. I'm getting a call from a random number.

[PFT Commenter]

Who is it? I don't know.

[Big Cat]

Let me pick it up. Hello?

[Geno Smith]

Hello?

[PFT Commenter]

Who?

[Big Cat]

Hello? Who's this? Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. Memes.

[PFT Commenter]

Geno Smith memes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You want to do one question with the quarterback?

[Big Cat]

Let's do one quick. Can we do one question with a quarterback? Geno,

[Geno Smith]

Are you talking to me?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Gina, Gino, can we do one? One question with the quarterback? Sorry, we. We should probably do this on Zoom another time, but can we do one question? The quarterback, now that you're calling. Oh, okay. All right. All right, guys, we don't have these ready.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I, I. Shoot. Okay, I got one.

[Big Cat]

All right, go ahead. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, Gino. Pft. Commenter from part of my Take Sports podcast. How did you find out that you were going back to the Jets?

[Geno Smith]

Well, AG gave me a call and said, you know, let's get this done, because it's crazy, because I played against Coach Glenn.

[Big Cat]

I played.

[Geno Smith]

I grew up in Miami watching him play. And then he was actually on the stand when I first played for Jackson. He's a real dude. He's a real dude. He is a columnist. Can't wait to see what we're gonna do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, go ahead. Hey, hey, hey. Producer Hank Gino.

[Hank]

Gino Smith. Hank, part of my take here. How are you a different Jet this time around?

[Geno Smith]

Well, I was 25 when I played for the Jackson League. You know, you get life lessons, you get perspective, and every experience teaches me something. I'm always about learning, and I look forward to my new teammates in Florida Park. We got a lot of veterans, we got Demario, we got Mika, and it's time to change the culture. I'm looking forward to seeing what we can do in Florida park this summer.

[Big Cat]

I love it. I love it. Gino, it's Big Cat here. He just called. What would a successful Jet season look like for you?

[Geno Smith]

Well, we're a team, you know? You mean you need big boys up front. You gotta be surrounded with talent. When that happens, sky's the limit. You know, I'm. I'm about winning games. I don't care about statistics. I don't. Statistics don't mean anything to me. I'm just about winning games.

[Big Cat]

I. I love that.

[PFT Commenter]

I love that.

[Big Cat]

Oh, memes are die hard jets fan. He's got a question for you.

[PFT Commenter]

How you doing, Mr. Smith? Sorry, I'm. I'm nervous right now.

[Big Cat]

He's pretty nervous. It's okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes. So you played with jets legend Nick Mangold.

[Big Cat]

Can you just talk about what he

[PFT Commenter]

was like as a teammate and what

[Big Cat]

he meant to the locker room and how you plan to bring that pride

[PFT Commenter]

back to the locker room?

[Geno Smith]

Well, you know, as. As a veteran, and I am a veteran, I take care of my body. I am looking forward to bringing a sense of pride. Now, last season, last season for me was a little bit of a letdown, but it is all about growth, you know, and a lot of people don't know this, but I had close to 70 completion. You know, the turnovers killed us last season, but I'm just about bringing pride back to that organization. You know what? I have a little bit of unfinished business. You know, the past is the past. I live in the here now. I'm excited to be a part of the community, the jets community. My foundation, seven Sunday Heroes, is going to be part of the part of the community. And I just want to get that old jets feel in the building. You know, the defense is Swarming and just get that old jets feel. And again, excited to be a part of the community. I'm familiar with the jets community and to get my foundation, seven Sunday Heroes, back involved in the. In the tri state area.

[Big Cat]

I love it. I love it. Well, thank you, Gino. Does anyone else have any other questions? I mean, memes would. Would love to come out to. To training camp or something if. I don't know if you're probably not settled in yet, so.

[Geno Smith]

Okay. Actually, I was calling to invite you all formally to Florin park this summer. I want you to see what coach Musgrave and coach. Coach Rack has grown up for us. Maybe get you all to run a route or two.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wow. You get memes and run a route for you.

[Geno Smith]

Bring your cleats.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, I love it.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I love it memes.

[Big Cat]

I love it.

[PFT Commenter]

Challenge issued means let's go.

[Big Cat]

Well, thank you. I assume Josh, our booker, probably set this up, so thank you, Gino. We really apprec. Appreciate it and we look forward to coming out. We'll make sure he gets in touch with the jets and we'll be out there for training camp.

[Geno Smith]

Thank you. Just want to remind everybody they can go to 7sundayheroes.com for. For my organization. We do a lot of work with the community, and that would be cool.

[PFT Commenter]

That's amazing. And I wish that you could see memes. He. He looks memes right now. Looks like a little kid on Christmas. He's. He's shaking. He's so happy. So this is. It's made his day. Thank you, Gino. Thank you, Gino.

[Geno Smith]

Let's go check.

[Big Cat]

All right. Thanks, Gino. Oh, he hung up. That was so bad. I've.

[PFT Commenter]

I've never laughed harder in the history of this show.

[Big Cat]

Started his big Dom and then he became Southern.

[PFT Commenter]

The Southern when he was. I take care of my body. I didn't know what direction he was going with the accent. Oh, my God, Jerry, that was amazing.

[Big Cat]

That was so good.

[PFT Commenter]

That was so good question. You really put him on his heels on that one.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, he didn't.

[PFT Commenter]

He didn't answer at all.

[Hank]

I think we all. We had scripted questions and he had scripted answers.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

So are we telling him?

[Big Cat]

We. I think we are. Right?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. I think he's gonna call in. He's probably gonna say something like, bing, bong memes. And then.

[Big Cat]

All right, he's gonna zoom in. That's perfect. All right, I'll send me the zoom. We'll have him. We'll have him zoom in and we're gonna surprise. Going to surprise Memes. Gotcha. Memes. How did Jerry fall for this?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know.

[Hank]

I think he spent it.

[PFT Commenter]

This was in his entire.

[Hank]

Probably last two or three days.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, to be an actor, you have to have the utmost confidence in yourself. And Jerry OConnell definitely has. He's got a lot of confidence to pull off any role.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

This is like his. Robert Downey Jr. In Tropic Thunder.

[Big Cat]

Oh, man, this is a great. This is a great April Fools. Yeah. And.

[PFT Commenter]

And.

[Big Cat]

And the best part about all this is that Max is still thinking, like, how are they getting me?

[PFT Commenter]

Max is so nervous.

[Big Cat]

Turn around on me. How's this gonna. Turn around and. And get me. Okay, so now we're having Jerry join us. Oh, memes. We got a special guest for you on Zoom. What's your special guest?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Me.

[PFT Commenter]

He got your memes.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Smith. Mr. Smith.

[Max]

Hi.

[Jerry O'Connell]

How are you? Mr. Smith, I have a question for you. You are so stupid.

[Big Cat]

Memes. Come on.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Are you as dumb as Max?

[Big Cat]

Max, we all come on.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

I mean, that's a.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a ricochet at Max. That's memes. You gotta be better than that. Come on.

[Big Cat]

Come on. But you sounded just like him.

[Max]

It happens. It happens to the best of us.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry, that was. You did a great job with the voice. What was your inspiration there?

[Big Cat]

Oh, that woman's looking at each other.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I watched you guys texted me this morning saying, okay, Colin is Geno Smith. I texted you guys. Is that inappropriate? Just because we are different races. And I thought with all this Drew Ski, Erica Kirk stuff, I thought, yeah, I could do this.

[Big Cat]

I can get away with it, you know, John. Jerry, I just sent you a picture.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That was a funny sketch. Yeah, I want to say, yes, that was a funny sketch.

[Big Cat]

Check your tech. Can you look at your text right now?

[Geno Smith]

You.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You want me to look at my text?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I show you a picture of memes. You should. You should see it and read it out loud.

[Geno Smith]

Give me a second.

[Big Cat]

All right. You got it?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, I got it.

[Big Cat]

What does it say?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, what does it say? Jerry?

[Big Cat]

Jerry, what does it say?

[Jerry O'Connell]

It says. It says it's 2:35 and we're actually pranking you, you

[Big Cat]

big bog.

[PFT Commenter]

April fool's. Jerry, we got you.

[Big Cat]

That was so bad. Jerry, you are not Geno Smith at all.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That was a double. A double doink.

[PFT Commenter]

Listen, we wanted. We wanted to hear you try the Geno Smith. And that was really our entertainment for the day, so. And you know what, Jerry? I've Never laughed as hard as I did. When you first started talking as you, Smith, I had to push the microphone. I almost threw up, I was laughing so hard.

[Hank]

You were.

[Big Cat]

You were Big Dom. You started as Bing Dom, and then you became Southern and. Yeah, Jerry. So what happened was we started. We started the show, and Max was. Max is very nervous about April Fools. And we were joking. We're like, actually, Jerry texted us and threw out some ideas, and I read all your ideas, and pft was like, actually, I kind of want to see Jerry try Gino Smith. So then we're like, it. Let's just reverse prank him.

[Geno Smith]

Wow.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Really good stuff, guys. Really good. You guys are like Jedis. You're Jedis with this pranking stuff. Yeah, it was interesting. I couldn't. First of all, good one.

[Max]

Congrats. You're such an idiot for thinking that.

[Big Cat]

That.

[Max]

That. That we all believe that. You're such a idiot. You're such an idiot.

[PFT Commenter]

Such an idiot.

[Max]

You're such an idiot, Jerry. It's crazy that you fell for that. It's insane that you fell for that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm scaring this poor young lady who's walking down the stairs, like, yelling, my phone. Shut the fuck up, Max. Shut the fuck up.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Max.

[PFT Commenter]

Max.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Shut the fuck up. You fell for that last year hook line at sinker, and I was stuttering and everything. I did have to write out everything I was gonna say because I have a slight stammer, you know, and if I start to think about words, I stammer. Wait, let me find you my notes.

[Max]

I had you don't say memes. Asked you a question about Nick Mangold, and you didn't even think about answering the question.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, I didn't want to get into, like, serious topics on this thing and say something that was really offensive to somebody, you know?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're not Bill Maher.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, right.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hey, I like how now that you guys are on Netflix, still no comments there, but it's all like, these zooms are. These zooms are fancy now. You know, like, fancy HD zooms. It's no more just me, like, FaceTiming with you guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, it's pretty nice, Jerry. I. I did enjoy your answers. Can you tell us about, like, getting into characters? Geno Smith?

[Geno Smith]

Well, I.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Actually. Geno Smith is interesting because he. His. How do I say this without getting canceled?

[Big Cat]

Oh, gosh.

[PFT Commenter]

I tell you what. Yeah, you're not. It's not.

[Big Cat]

It can't be worse.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Very distinct. Yeah, he's got a very distinct way of speaking. He's from Florida, but he spent time in Seattle, so I think he's just got. He's got. He's got an interesting cadence. My big thing was to not stammer or stutter, because in the comments, in that old thing where you guys used to show your show in the comments, you saw a lot like I saw. I heard immediately he was stuttering, and I knew it was Jerry. I heard a stammer, I heard an. And I knew it was Jerry, so I didn't want there to be any arms or anything.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then the charity that. That Gino has, is that a real charity?

[Geno Smith]

Yeah, that's.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's a real charity.

[Geno Smith]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that the charity where he missed the date on the charity thing and then he got punched?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I believe that was about airfare. Someone wasn't reimbursed or something. I don't know. Maybe. Look, these are all my notes. Like, by the way, you guys really got me. I, like, woke up this morning and this has been like my job all day.

[Big Cat]

Called it. Hank said. He was like, I bet you Jerry's been spending the entire day this.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's work, Hank. Maybe. Maybe you should try it sometime. Yeah. Yeah. It's called research. Look at this. Oh, by the way, Hanky, I wanted to say thank you for Sunday Monday show for showing us the tootsies.

[Hank]

No problem, pervert.

[PFT Commenter]

Good Tootsies. And then, Jerry, we just discovered today, there's a very good chance that there's going to be maybe a Celtics, Knicks or a Celtic Sixers. Or a Sixers, Knicks playoff game on Max's bachelor party.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, my gosh.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's gonna be so fun. And by the way, sorry I was yelling at you, Max, and called dumb and everything for falling for that.

[Max]

I'm sorry, too.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, Max, I can't wait for your birth out bachelor party. I'm literally like, I'm saving a little bit of money every day. I'm gonna have a little like, like nest egg for the party. I'm putting aside a couple bucks every day, and I'm just. Just. I'm bringing the Narcan. Crazy. We're trying to lose control. You guys have seen me with the briefcase, doing work, coming into the studio, all that stuff.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But by the way, you've got to tell me if there's a camera, like, in a place, a camera in a room, camera in a cabana, you gotta say, because.

[Max]

Yeah, no cameras, no cameras.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I think we played golf. And remember I was like, speaking inappropriately. Inappropriately to upft. Not even More inappropriate than me doing a Geno Smith. Sorry, everyone. Wow, you guys really fucking got me. Wow. You got me so good, man. I really worked on that all morning.

[PFT Commenter]

It was awesome.

[Big Cat]

Jerry, you crush it.

[PFT Commenter]

Jerry made me laugh so much.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah. All right, Jerry, we'll see you in a month. We'll see in a month.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. Can't wait. Oh, I've got, I've got wardrobe. I've got all kinds of things. I can't wait, Max. I cannot wait to celebrate you. I cannot wait.

[Max]

I'm excited. I'm excited.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You got me. Memes. Memes is the smartest, as always.

[Big Cat]

All right, see you, Jerry.

[PFT Commenter]

See you, Jerry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Bye, guys. See ya.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that was perfect.

[PFT Commenter]

Memes also might not be the smartest because when we were waiting to do this, I told memes that we had booked geno Smith after he had heard us playing out the whole segment. And Memes got excited about having Geno Smith on the show this afternoon.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're. Sports podcast. Yeah, we are. We are. All right, well, let's get. I, I. We don't even know where this is going to go in the show because we've, we've, we've disjointed the whole thing. But let's get back to the show. National sports podcast. Let's rip some things. The owners are meeting in Arizona. They sure are a lot of sunglasses in the owner's picture, by the way.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, they finally realized that. That they have to stare into the sun.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Every year. So they bring.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they.

[Big Cat]

All right, so that was the GM picture. Sorry? The GM picture was all. Was all sunglasses.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I think most of the owners went without shades.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Weren't there.

[PFT Commenter]

There were a couple that were wearing sunglasses.

[Big Cat]

I don't think the owners took a picture, did they? I don't think the owner said they should have.

[PFT Commenter]

The owners take a picture, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Because I actually saw the GM picture and I was like, oh, yeah, there's Matt Ryan, the GM for the Falcons.

[PFT Commenter]

President of the Falcons.

[Big Cat]

Oh, it's actually in Cunningham who got the promotion. But yeah, the picture has been out. It was probably the most. I, we have a problem in the NFL. The guys are too good looking. I call this the McVeigh effect. He's. The McVeigh tree has made offensive football fantastic in the NFL, but it's also made a bunch of pretty boys who all wear the same shade of blue. And thank God, Mike McCarthy Big Mike is back because we needed someone like that. An old school football guy who forgot to button one of his buttons. But this is what the new NFL is. Pretty boys.

[PFT Commenter]

You know what that picture reminds me of? Open it up again, Max.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

It.

[PFT Commenter]

You know the. The, like, bachelor party of all the dudes at the baseball game? Yeah. They're all leaning over each other. That's what this is right here.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

They're all wearing the same shirt. They all kind of look the same. The one new face that I think is a. A great addition to the picture is Joe Brady.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Joe Brady with the fresh fade. I've never been more confident in anything in my life that Joe Brady owned at least seven different Echo Unlimited shirts when he school.

[Big Cat]

He. He.

[PFT Commenter]

And they were all two sizes too big for him, and he looked awesome.

[Big Cat]

I said in my blog, Joe Brady looks like a guy who. The first guy in high school who buys a white Jetta and is going to sell you a shitty bag of weed.

[PFT Commenter]

He tricks it out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He also might have an earring. I looked at it for so long last night, I was like, I think he has an earring. Vrabel. Just absolutely dominating. Dominating.

[Hank]

The story of this picture.

[Big Cat]

Like, Halfley, if you're a Dolphins fan, it's not been good for a long time. It's going to stay not good. I. I don't want to look too much into these pictures, but, yes, sometimes this picture does tell us something. Like, for instance, Todd Bowles looks like he's just eating his way through the off season and wearing a gigantic denim moomoo. But Rabel has just killed Halfley. Killed him. Dominated him.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. If you look. You look around. The other story in this picture, to me is. Is Jim Harbaugh's band aid. Yeah. What happened? Where'd he get the gash on the forearm?

[Big Cat]

It.

[PFT Commenter]

To me, it looks like it's a cat handling bandage. No, like one you get when you pick up a stray cat and you try to relocate it.

[Hank]

Spread is twice as long. Like, if you look at all the other people's legs, his. His leg spread is literally twice as wide as.

[Big Cat]

Everyone's crazy. No, my theory with Jim Harbaugh is he just happened by a blood bank on the way to the picture.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And someone was like, hey, sir, could you give some blood? And he's like, harbaugh blood.

[Max]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

It could be that. It could also just be he was walking to the picture and he saw a shortcut.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And the shortcut was like, through a. Through a hedge.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But it's. It's always fun watching all the guys get together awkwardly staring at the sun. Sean McVeigh not there. I actually think Sean McVeigh might be embarrassed to what he's done to the league in terms of the pretty boys.

[PFT Commenter]

What have I done?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. That's so. He's like, I can't even bear it.

[Hank]

A lot of tits.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

A lot of tits.

[Big Cat]

A lot of Miko Ryan's nips out hard. Do we.

[PFT Commenter]

It's gonna take me a long time to be able to figure out who Mike LaFleur is.

[Big Cat]

Well, no, he looks like a AI LaFleur. His hair is ridiculous. Jimmy Neutron hair next to Matt.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's. It's pretty boy to the mat.

[PFT Commenter]

I think there's three guys right now that if they sat down next to me, I would not immediately recognize as being a head coach. One would be Michael Florida. Zach Taylor I will never recognize as being a head coach. I would probably be like, oh, hey, nice to see you, Secretary Buttigieg.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then who's the other one? Jesse, you probably wouldn't mentor. I. I think no, because he looks so much like Nate Borgazzi.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

That I would recognize him, actually.

[Big Cat]

I appreciate Clint Kubiak just being a clone of his dad. Yeah. Because I knew right away that was him.

[PFT Commenter]

But Shanahan looks like he's been hanging out next to that electric voltage machine.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like he's wasting away a little bit.

[Big Cat]

He's got his security guard back with Robert Salah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

The shiniest head ever. Max. Are we Nick Sirianni's. Has he.

[PFT Commenter]

I have a theory.

[Big Cat]

Is he gaining a little weight? Strong.

[Max]

We've. We've all had shirts that are just a little bit too small.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is that. Is that shirt too small or is it like his.

[Geno Smith]

He looks strong.

[PFT Commenter]

He looks actually like his stomach.

[Hank]

I actually do think he looks way like. I didn't realize how big he was until this picture.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah.

[Max]

Strong.

[PFT Commenter]

His stomach got higher.

[Big Cat]

I don't think that's.

[Max]

I think that's why.

[Big Cat]

Why the body pregnant?

[PFT Commenter]

Why the buddy pregnant?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

Core strength.

[Big Cat]

But it's a great picture. He looks. He's standing a little bit away from everyone. I don't know what that's about.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he's intimidated by.

[Hank]

Why don't they do this for Hard Knocks?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Just lining everyone up. Yeah. So hard. That was a big new. The other news coming out of the owner's meeting is the Hard Knocks is going to be the Seattle Seahawks, and then they're. Are they announcing two years in a row? Oh, that's.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Patriots are the next year. I thought that was this year?

[PFT Commenter]

No, they did crazy two years in advance. Yeah, advance. It's weird.

[Big Cat]

I don't like that.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't like that at all. Also, the rule used to be if you made the playoffs, you didn't have to do Hard Knocks the next year.

[Big Cat]

And if you have a new coach. So congrats to Mike Vaughel. He's not getting fired next year.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess not.

[Hank]

That's weird.

[Big Cat]

The. Yeah, it is a little weird. It's not like the two, two years in advance. So it's Seahawks and Patriots. Sean Payton doesn't know how to sit. That's his first day of sitting.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Sean Payton doesn't care about the, about the coach's picture. He was probably sitting there, like, early in the morning. They, they built the coach's picture around him.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Also, John Harbaugh wearing black loafers and white socks is not great for the Joe Biden. Like, did you forget? Did you get dressed in the dark?

[PFT Commenter]

Hey, Grandpa, let's get you out to. Let's get you out to the. Isn't that crazy picture?

[Big Cat]

And I like Coach Harbaugh, but, man, it's a tough one to defend.

[PFT Commenter]

And also the, the feet next to his brother. I, I'm convinced that Jim Harbaugh knows what size shoe his brother wears.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then goes out and buys three sizes too big for himself, knowing that he's going to be sitting next to his brother for the picture.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And so I, I, I think that the Hard Knocks two years in advance is a really weird thing, considering nobody really cares about Hard Knocks anymore.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We care about the first episode.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. First episode. I would prefer that it's done. Like, I would like to see the refs this offseason. Actually.

[Big Cat]

This is what they for Hard Knocks. Why not just do a first episode for every team?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You could do 32 hard knocks.

[Big Cat]

Never do another episode.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd like to see Hard Knocks the league office, like, following around Goodell. I would like to see Hard Knocks with the referees. That's going to be an interesting story. Is like, the referees have been kind of locked out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But so as far as I understand it, the refs kind of want to double dip. So they don't want to be full time.

[PFT Commenter]

What do you mean?

[Big Cat]

They're getting paid $350,000 and they also can work outside of refereeing.

[PFT Commenter]

I, I don't know what's going on with the actual negotiations, but I do know that they're actively hiring replacement refs right now. We're trying to incorporate Something in the rules for next year that would just be like, during replace replacement ref season, if there's a up, we can overrule anything from Sky Judge in New York.

[Big Cat]

I'm just saying, like, if. If it is true. I've always just assumed, like, NFL's being cheap. And now this is all a report I got from T. Bob. Hopefully he did his actual research. I trust that he did. But the NFL is being cheap and not paying the refs. But then he's like, no, they're paying $350,000 a year. They want to make them full time, but the refs don't want it because a lot of these refs are getting paid $350,000 a year to ref. And then they also work at a law firm or, you know, and double dip. So we gotta. We gotta figure out the ref thing.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I do think.

[Big Cat]

I also don't care, really, because I'm gonna watch even if the refs suck.

[PFT Commenter]

I think a lot of 350k a

[Hank]

year is way more than I thought.

[Big Cat]

Me too.

[PFT Commenter]

A lot of the refs, I think, love double dipping because being an NFL referee is a great, great advertisement for their law firm. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I'm. I got trial next week, but it's okay. My lawyers ed hockey.

[Big Cat]

I don't know if that's. It's all right. So I just looked AI2. Yeah. 200,000 to 350,000 per year. That's a lot. Okay. Why do they. That would be such a sick job to just not have another job. Just do that.

[PFT Commenter]

Just do that as your only one.

[Big Cat]

By the way, one last thing about the coach's picture. We had Kevin Stefanski on in the combine, and we talked about how I've been trying to get him dressed for this. I missed it this year, so I sent him all of the shirts. I texted him on Wednesday. I was like, shirts arrived. He's like, oh, I'm actually already in Arizona on vacation. So the pursuit continues. I did send him. I shaved my balls for this shirt and a couple other shirts. So we're gonna. We're gonna try. There will be a year where I get him dressed.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm sure he'll probably wear that at the draft or something. It's a nice shirt.

[Big Cat]

It's his shirt.

[PFT Commenter]

He'll find an occasion for it.

[Big Cat]

Gotta wear it.

[PFT Commenter]

So who is missing from the picture

[Big Cat]

besides McVeigh, Sean McVeigh and Todd Monkin

[PFT Commenter]

would not have guessed. Todd Monkin.

[Big Cat]

Todd Monkin.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, I think you could take all These guys faces and combine them into one, and that's probably exactly what Todd Monkin looks like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Todd Monkey. Did you see? He's got a.

[PFT Commenter]

What?

[Big Cat]

He's got like a gold.

[PFT Commenter]

What did.

[Big Cat]

What did Shador give Todd Monkin that he's got in his. In his office? I think Todd Monkin. I think Shador is trying to maybe pay off Todd Monkin to get the starting job. No, it wasn't a Labubu. Hold on, I'm gonna try to find it. Todd Monkin, I think he. Someone asked him about this. It's always funny, too, these interviews with the coaches, because they're like having breakfast. And that's the big thing. Why you just searched Monkey, Labubu, Monk and cheddar. Jimmy Hasm, by the way, said that there's a chance that the desean Watson trade can go from a swing and a miss to a home run.

[Hank]

Porcelain horse head.

[Big Cat]

Porcelain horse head.

[PFT Commenter]

Leave it in his bed.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And Muggin said, if DeSean had come into my office and gave me an elephant, I would put that in there too. So it looks like there's some. Is it illegal payments? Todd Monken.

[PFT Commenter]

They're all trying to bribe him for the world's saddest quarterbacking job.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. He's like, hey, that also is a gift that no one wants.

[Hank]

I asked him what was the meeting? He said, well, I really liked it. I got myself one. I said, well, great.

[Big Cat]

That was it for.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait. So Shador got matching horse heads for him and his coach?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

According to this.

[Big Cat]

Are.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he talking about a knight? Did he get him a chess set?

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

A porcelain horse head?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[Hank]

Like the horse from the Godfather fam.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so Shador's saying, if you don't start me, yeah, I'm going to kill you.

[Hank]

The horse is the Lunar New year animal for 2026.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh. So Chinese. Chinese. Good luck. Ah. Goshi Fatsai. I so with Deshawn Watson. Goi Fatsai.

[Big Cat]

Oh, okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Happy New Year, Chinese.

[Big Cat]

Go. She fights. Shout out to you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there you go with desean. He's actually going to start next year, I think.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And it's kind of weird that Haslam has come out there and been like, yeah, we've really. Right now, if you look at the trade, we really it up. But there's still time. It would be so awkward if desean goes out and is actually like, really good at playing quarterback again. Yeah, I think that would make things very. It would be very strange.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Very strange. Other. Any other stories from the owner's Meeting?

[PFT Commenter]

No, just that they're, they're thinking about rewriting the rules for the, the fake refs that might come in. That'll be interesting because basically it'll be like, what's his name? Butterworth.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Butterworth will be officiating every game all at the same time this year. Behind the screen.

[Big Cat]

We also did, I should say one more Browns thing. They rescinded their proposal to allow teams to trade draft picks five years down the road. Yep. Which, thank God, the Browns are like, oh, this would only hurt us.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So good job. And, and, and Hank, congratulations. You're going to get your wish. Your owner has said that he wants an 18 game schedule and every team to have an international game.

[Hank]

I disagree with the 18 game schedule.

[Big Cat]

Why?

[Hank]

Too many games.

[Big Cat]

I also think one more game.

[PFT Commenter]

Grow the game. What about growing the game? But it's Mr. Grow the Game.

[Big Cat]

So it actually sounds like the 18th game will be automatic international.

[Hank]

Okay, then, then I like that. I just, I, I, I don't know if we were talking about the show or if I was reading an article, but the, the, they're trying to spread out the games too much. Sunday games are gonna get worse.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. We talked about on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Hank]

I, I, that, that scarcity of it, I very much agree with where it's like, the more games they add, the worse the product's gonna be somehow. And what seems like an unstoppable force of the NFL could, they could, they could fuck this.

[Big Cat]

And it's also. 18 games is going to lead to 20 games. This is every, everything the NFL does when they say, hey, we're going to do a game on Thanksgiving on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. They're not just doing that because it's the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. They're testing out to see if they can do games, future Wednesdays.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, 17 games was the biggest. No duh. Of all time. That they were going to eventually get to 18 games. 17 just is an awkward number to end at 20. That, that would probably be another like 10 years in the future.

[Big Cat]

But it will happen.

[PFT Commenter]

But they're gonna try to get it. Yeah, maybe.

[Geno Smith]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But there's gonna be like no tackling at that point.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, it'd probably be like the other two games will be flag football games that are integrated with the NFL's new flag football league that they have started. But they, they have 18 games is like the start of the conversation for the next CBA from the owner's perspective. It's like, we're not even going to entertain a seven game season or 17 game season that we're going to start at 18 and you have to accept that or else we're going to lock you out. So it's going to happen. There will be 18 games. I don't, I don't necessarily mind 18 as opposed to 17. I think they'll probably do something with a preseason game they should do.

[Big Cat]

The universal buy is good. Universal buy. The week before Christmas when you have to do all your shopping and everyone's busy and you're like, hey, maybe there's a Christmas party. And you gotta, you gotta be like, hey, guess what? You know what? And we, we just don't tell anyone that there's universal buy. And we're like, hey, you know what? This weekend I'm not gonna wait. Watch football. It would be, it would be great for everyone. And you could also throw some college football playoff games on there.

[PFT Commenter]

Our dear friend Mike Florio kind of dove into it, and I don't think this is fan fiction. He might be on to something. The February 2028 Super bowl does not have a date.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To be played on yet.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Which means they're holding it for the 18th game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then once they get that solidified, then they'll announce when the super bowl is going to be.

[Big Cat]

And that part I'm, I'm in for. Because I, I have said this before, but as long as football is being played, winner doesn't exist. I know winter sucks, but when football, when you have football games, especially playoff games. So the closer we get the football season to March Madness, if they're basically kissing a bridge. Yeah, it's great.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, that's what's so great about going from March Madness to the Masters.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, you don't have to think about anything.

[Geno Smith]

Right.

[Big Cat]

Masters to, to NBA and NHL playoffs.

[PFT Commenter]

It's perfect. And the only other thing that I saw this morning that came out from the NFL meeting was we can scratch one more team off the list of potential opponents for the Seahawks in the opening game. It's not going to be the Chiefs. So Clark Hunt said he doesn't think it's on the table. From a league standpoint. There would be some concern about whether Patrick Mahomes would be ready to go for that game.

[Big Cat]

Oh, we got to make sure.

[PFT Commenter]

So we have to make sure that the Chiefs have their best starting lineup to open the season because every other team obviously gets the same consideration with having their best, best players healthy.

[Big Cat]

Well, Justin Fields, maybe, maybe they want to start the season with Justin Fields.

[PFT Commenter]

It'd be unfair against the Seahawks. Seahawks to have to prepare for that.

[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

Good question.

[Hank]

I can check my whoop.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, check your whoop.

[PFT Commenter]

Let's see how you did.

[Big Cat]

Check your woo. Because Coach K didn't sleep at all.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wow.

[Big Cat]

That's what he said. Real shame. I hope, I hope, I hope he can rectify that.

[PFT Commenter]

It's because he was waiting by his phone call. I. I'm back, Coach.

[Big Cat]

I'm with Coach K. I didn't sleep well either because I was. I was basically up till 2:30 in the morning watching the highlight over and over and over.

[PFT Commenter]

And they were all so good. Every different angle was. Was perfect. The angle with. With Coach Hurley's mom cussing, it was awesome.

[Big Cat]

It was great.

[Hank]

I got a solid seven hours.

[Big Cat]

Oh wow. Have you thought anything Else about that game. No way it could happen.

[Hank]

I mean, not only should they have gotten a technical at the end, but. But the. The referee incident.

[Big Cat]

Well, we're going to talk about that with Coach Curly. You're wrong.

[Geno Smith]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You're wrong.

[Hank]

Disgusting.

[Big Cat]

You're wrong.

[Hank]

It should not be a case by case basis if you do this. This is illegal. I can go to hr. I can go to hr.

[PFT Commenter]

Guys can't keep our violations.

[Big Cat]

What? I can't put my.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, guys can't snuggle. Doesn't matter.

[Hank]

Just because. Just because we know each other and we're friends, that still does not make that any less of an HR violation.

[Big Cat]

I was just leaning in to listen.

[Hank]

It's illegal, and he should have received a technical, should have got free throws and won the game.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, so Dan Hurley, he was. What was the part of the court that he was standing in at the time? What's it called?

[Big Cat]

That'd be the coach's box.

[PFT Commenter]

The coach's box. So he's in his environment, I think I'll give you an analogy sometimes. Blake, I'm in my seat.

[Hank]

You still touch me.

[PFT Commenter]

My dog. Blake. When he feels illegal, overwhelmed, I put him in his straight because that's where he wants to go to get away from all the commotion. If I go into his training and he gets mad at me, that's on me for invading his personal space.

[Hank]

Hank, whose house is it?

[Big Cat]

Let me try another one for you. Hank, it's my house. Yeah, exactly.

[Hank]

Your personal space.

[PFT Commenter]

Does the ref own the entire gym?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Do we? Not his court. He's not.

[Hank]

Court, my rules.

[PFT Commenter]

That's off the court. My court, my rules. Out of bounds.

[Big Cat]

Hey, every single summer, do we not mourn our sweet Prince Harambe? Yeah. That ref jumped into his cage and they killed Harambe. That's what you want to do?

[Jerry O'Connell]

You want to kill Hurley?

[Big Cat]

He's just chilling in his coach's box.

[Hank]

It was a crazy, crazy, crazy clip.

[Big Cat]

I thought it was. AI. Honestly, I. I couldn't believe it.

[Hank]

His explanation makes sense, but still, I believe in. In the letter of the law. And, like, if, you know, you make exceptions for this guy and you make exceptions for that guy, then we just won't live in a society anymore.

[PFT Commenter]

Can you imagine what would happen if they called a technical and they had Duke shoot foul shots?

[Hank]

They should have. They would have been like, yeah, why is Danny Hurley doing that?

[Big Cat]

Hank, did you. So, yeah, we get into all of it with Danny Hurley. Hank, did you know that this was the first time in Duke history that they won 35 games back to back years.

[Hank]

Did not.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, it's pretty good.

[Big Cat]

I learned it because I listened to. It was the first time in Duke basketball history.

[Hank]

This is AI.

[Big Cat]

The Duke teams won 35 games in consecutive seasons in back to back years, Folks.

[Geno Smith]

How greedy are you?

[Hank]

Are you really going to lament a

[Big Cat]

lost season or something like that in a year where we won 35 games

[Geno Smith]

and hung multiple banners?

[Big Cat]

That's where my guys at the Duke Basketball roundup. Yes. On Monday morning, I. I looked up every single Duke podcast and listened to all the recaps.

[Max]

Multiple bands sounded like Jerry doing a Duke basketball podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

Multiple band? What band are they talking about? The regular season. Accurate Champions.

[Big Cat]

Jimmy V Classic.

[PFT Commenter]

Multiple banners.

[Big Cat]

Multiple banners. Do you not think that's real?

[PFT Commenter]

One seed. Hang up a banner for the one seed.

[Big Cat]

Look up the Duke basketball round.

[Hank]

No, I believe it just sounded.

[Max]

I. I believe it. But listen, listen. Thinking that it's Jerry. I might be on Jerry Watch right now. But history.

[Big Cat]

The two teams won 35 games in consecutive seasons in back to back years. Folks.

[PFT Commenter]

You are. You're paranoid right now, Max.

[Max]

I am, but it does kind of

[PFT Commenter]

sound like, Max, you're seeing ghosts.

[Big Cat]

Shout out my guys at Duke Basketball Roundup. Great podcast. Did subscribe.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So appreciate.

[Big Cat]

Appreciate that they. They do a great show. It was. Great show. I just had so much fun on Monday.

[Hank]

Happy for you. Yeah, not at all.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's. It's actually been great. And I was talking to Big T about this, and he was confused why we were so excited about Duke losing. Because he said it might be a. It might be a generation definition of

[Hank]

bitter in the dictionary. And that's Big T. Your answer, Big

[PFT Commenter]

T. He brought up a great point.

[Big Cat]

Don't care, by the way. Yes. Don't care.

[PFT Commenter]

He brought up a great point. And he said he thinks that millennials and. And above love to celebrate Duke losing, but Gen Z and below, they don't really care when Duke loses. And I said, that's probably meaner than us. Celebrating when Duke loses is not giving a. About. Yeah, And I think that might be kind of true.

[Big Cat]

The Big T sample size is. It's tough because I don't think he celebrates anything.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

He's like a Jehovah's Witness. Not even a birthday. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I love Big T, but he's not the one to go to be like, are you happy about this? He's gonna say I'm average, Right?

[PFT Commenter]

He's not popping champagne, but yeah.

[Big Cat]

Man, what a game.

[PFT Commenter]

He does like Illinois, though.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. I mean, Listen, this is gonna be an awesome Final Four.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm.

[Big Cat]

I'm very excited for this Final Four. It does. I. I love anyone who's saying that it feels like the championship game is Saturday night is just completely discounting Illinois and Yukon is crazy to me because I do think that any of these four teams can win it.

[PFT Commenter]

Sure.

[Big Cat]

It does not feel like a consolation game to me whatsoever. Yes, Michigan and Arizona look like the best teams and have the best two best records, but that doesn't mean that UConn Illinois can't be cutting down the nets on Monday.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I definitely think it's anybody's game. Memes is on his bullshit again, too. Replying to people on Twitter. Oh, this is. This one just dropped. Matt Miller was talking about the Geno Smith. Is this the guy that's going to lead us to the promised land? Matt Miller says is the promised land the number one overall pick in 2027? And memes replies, get.

[Big Cat]

Oh, there you go.

[PFT Commenter]

Now Memes, Usually it would be like a get buddy. There's no buddy on there.

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I said back here.

[Big Cat]

I was like, I'm only responding to one guy, and it's him, and it's him. Yeah. NFL draft scout.

[PFT Commenter]

But, yeah, I think the final Four is anybody's game for sure.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's gonna be a great final Four, and I'm very excited. Hank, do you see Drake mates shaved his head?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Who's back?

[Big Cat]

Is that a Christ? Okay, that's. Although it's a hot, hot sequel to charity. Oh, it's charity.

[PFT Commenter]

Charity with charity.

[Big Cat]

Because sometimes people shave their heads and they're, like, going through a crisis. Britney Spears little sass when he asked Dave for a raise.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's.

[Hank]

It's for a great cause.

[PFT Commenter]

Or it might be for racism.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Like. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Skinheads,

[Big Cat]

Pirate. Simon.

[Hank]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

When he. When he got accused of downloading pirate porn. Our school offices back in 20.

[Hank]

Boston Children's Hospital.

[Big Cat]

Okay. All right, so shout out to.

[PFT Commenter]

Pretty good. Yeah, the kids. Shout out to kids for the kids.

[Big Cat]

That's nice.

[Max]

Wait, so that was a good job by Hank?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

No, he just completely. Yeah, yeah. It's over. Is he.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he donating the hair? How much?

[Hank]

They've done Brady. Brady did it back in the day, too.

[Big Cat]

Nice.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, good, good. Beautiful, Beautiful for the kids.

[Hank]

Made me want to shave mine.

[Big Cat]

Do you guys? I. I don't really want to shave yours.

[Hank]

It made me want to.

[Big Cat]

You should do it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Do you hate the kids?

[Hank]

I didn't. I don't think me shaving my Head can read. I don't know how we raise money for the kids.

[Big Cat]

I got an idea. What if you shave your head and then we do a limited edition Hank dog toy. That's like a thousand dollars all to a charity and we put a piece of your hair in the dog toy. This is real life, Hank.

[Hank]

You figure out that's logistically possible and

[Big Cat]

then, fine, give me a piece of tape and a piece of hair.

[Hank]

Dude.

[Big Cat]

Done. We can then get Hank accused for a crime. Would you do sending his DNA? Would you do America?

[Hank]

I don't think so.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I don't think. You don't like the kids.

[Geno Smith]

No.

[Big Cat]

We could also do bald Hank toys. Just no hair. Oh, good. Call me.

[Hank]

Yeah, it already is bald.

[PFT Commenter]

Look at it like this. I'm looking at it. This is what Hank would look like if he cared about children.

[Hank]

Yeah, I care about my children, not other people's.

[Big Cat]

Golf. You care about golf.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Exactly.

[Big Cat]

So did you get a greenskeeper? That's. That's what your Evan scholarship.

[Hank]

Yeah,

[Big Cat]

I don't. What else we got?

[PFT Commenter]

Anthony Davis. Anthony. Or. Sorry, Anthony Edwards took a. In the news because he took it.

[Hank]

Davis playing.

[PFT Commenter]

Anthony Davis is playing next year. Yeah, next year. Should be super healthy next year. But Anthony Edwards missed the start of the game because he was taking a. Last night. And then his coach tried to like, use more flowery language to kind of like dismiss it.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Be like, oh, he was indisposed at the moment. He's like, yeah, I had to take a.

[Big Cat]

And then there's a story I read that Anthony Davis was basically famous in high school for practice being delayed for

[PFT Commenter]

detention and him having to take a Stefan Diggs.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, same thing. I don't really want to talk about the Jaden Ivy. That thing is weird.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It's very strange. It doesn't seem. I hope he's okay.

[Big Cat]

I hope he's okay too, because it's like. It seems like it's not great, but then people are making it very religious, obviously. I think the real story should just be that AK the Bulls GM is the worst GM in all sports and should be fired.

[PFT Commenter]

So to me, it feels like he's going through a tough. And has been going through a tough time mentally.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And this feels like. I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but it feels like the last time that you would want to, like, get rid of a guy, you'd want to help, like a good organization.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Would want to help him. Whatever.

[Big Cat]

That's. You just. You just showed your cards right there.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, whatever.

[Big Cat]

He's going good organization.

[PFT Commenter]

They would try to be like, hey, are you okay?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The Bulls are not a good organization. No.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, SGA got called for a push off last night. Did you see this? It's breaking news, breaking moves. Yes. SGA got called for an offensive fellow last night against. Against the Detroit Pistons. I was watching this game and SJ's still awesome. Obviously great offensive player, but he does push off. And they blew the whistle for like the first time on him. And the crowd in Oklahoma City freaked out. They could not believe that they called him for an offensive foul and it was. It was a push off. I don't know if this is a point of emphasis, if that's going to be called on him in the playoffs. My guess is probably not.

[Big Cat]

The faces of the bench in the crowd looks like when Kevin Durant snapped his Achilles.

[PFT Commenter]

It looks like the crowd in Dallas during John F. Kennedy's parade.

[Big Cat]

Or actually, I should take that back. It's the Gordon Hayward clip. When he breaks his ankle and you see all the calves, like, looking on and. And. And putting their heads down. That's what that looked like.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. People just freaking out. They could not believe it. But it was the right call. And I don't know if that's. That's something that the refs are going to be calling in the playoffs. If they are, that'll be very interesting to watch. But SGA is very good at that, at doing the, like, delicate little push off and getting away with it. Yeah, but they might be calling it on also. I think we should become a pro Wimby for MVP podcast.

[Big Cat]

I mean, we are. Well, yeah, officially, but yeah, he's insane.

[Max]

I don't think he's played enough games, personally.

[Hank]

Damn.

[PFT Commenter]

He actually has Max. Because there's a limit.

[Max]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

The NBA sets a limit, and if you reach that limit, then you are eligible. And right now, he is eligible for the mvp.

[Max]

No. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

So wrong.

[PFT Commenter]

Wrong, Daddy.

[Max]

Okay, all right.

[Big Cat]

Any backup for that?

[Max]

I mean, it's just everyone is all in tears about the fucking. You have to play enough games rule.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Max]

And no one give a fuck about that one when Embiid was going for mvp. But wait, but like that. No, no, no, no, no. You're not understanding what I'm saying.

[Big Cat]

No, no.

[Max]

This is like a huge thing of discourse in the NBA right now.

[Big Cat]

Okay, yes, go ahead. You guys aren't.

[Max]

You guys aren't looking at NBA discourse. If that's. If you're.

[Big Cat]

I am.

[PFT Commenter]

That's why.

[Big Cat]

Go ahead. Go ahead.

[PFT Commenter]

I I really like Wimy for MVP because he has played enough games.

[Hank]

So what's your, what's your discourse with us, please?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, discourse.

[Max]

Well, because guys are playing, are overplaying now because they're trying to get to this threshold and now everyone in the NBA is up in arms being like, this is the worst rule ever. Why do we ever have this MVP rule that everyone has to play this amount of games to be considered blah blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah blah when no one gave a about that? Because everyone just hates Joel Embiid.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think it's about Joel and Beal.

[Max]

I think it's literally the Joel Embiid rule. This rule was made because how many

[Big Cat]

play in his MVP season?

[Max]

I don't memorize his fucking stats.

[PFT Commenter]

That's a pretty relative discourse. That's a relevant stat for the discourse.

[Big Cat]

How we're discoursing.

[PFT Commenter]

The stat was about me taking my 4 year old son Chris to NBA games and I've saved up all year and he wants to see LeBron James play and LeBron James comes out in street clothes flipping him two middle fingers saying off kid, you ain't getting tonight.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And then finally Adam Silver was like, lebron, we'd like you to show more respect to the children. Play more or else we're taking away your prizes.

[Big Cat]

What year did John.

[Hank]

I'm finding it. I got it.

[Max]

66 games.

[Hank]

So he won.

[Big Cat]

So then he would have been fine.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, 65 is the limit.

[Max]

Wemmy's played 60.

[PFT Commenter]

Well right, but there's eight more games left, maybe nine for him.

[Max]

So I don't know the exact argument, but there's an argument to be had.

[Big Cat]

I don't think. I think you're a little confused.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No.

[Big Cat]

Joan B. Hit the amount of games that would have. If the rule existed with Joel B. Won the mvp, he would have been eligible if Joel Embiid won the. Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

If Joel beat had won the MVP in a year that he played 40 games, your argument would make a lot of sense right now. It makes no sense.

[Max]

Someone smarter than me is going to make this argument for me because I'm seeing it a lot and it's pissing me off.

[PFT Commenter]

All right, wait for daddy to come in and make the argument for you.

[Geno Smith]

What?

[Big Cat]

What is the argument?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't really know.

[Big Cat]

I'm very confused.

[Max]

All right, shut up. Go to the next thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, now I'm. Now, now I want to know, are you. Would you be upset if Wimby won the MVP and he played in 68 games? This year. Would that upset you?

[Max]

This. This is a good one that I saw.

[Big Cat]

What. What is this?

[Hank]

This is a podcast, Max.

[Big Cat]

It's a good. Yeah, I was trying to call Roan to try to help you out, because Roan can definitely, probably decipher. He's. This is Rome.

[Max]

Could definitely decipher what I'm.

[Geno Smith]

What.

[Big Cat]

But I don't think you're making sense. What is the. What's the argument, Max? Answer my.

[Hank]

Joel Embiid should have won mvp.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wait, he did.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, he did that year, I think.

[Big Cat]

No, but we're still mad about the MVP that Joe and Beat won.

[PFT Commenter]

I think Max's argument boils down to, you guys should be angry at Victor Wimbanyama for not playing that many games because you were mad at Joel Embiid several years ago.

[Big Cat]

All right, I'm calling. I'm calling Rosillo. Let's see if Rosillo can. Can help.

[Max]

No, he's anti mb.

[Big Cat]

No, he's. No, no. Resilo is a trusted source. He loves Embiid. That's just not true at all. Okay, we got to get to the bottom of this. Oh, Jesus. Everyone.

[Max]

Why does anyone want to talk to us today?

[PFT Commenter]

No one wants to discourse about the NBA.

[Big Cat]

No one wants to talk to us about Joel Bead winning the MVP four years ago. Geez. What is your argument, Max?

[PFT Commenter]

He doesn't know.

[Max]

They start. They made a rule because of Joel Embiid. Because people were upset that he won the mvp and they didn't think that he scored that he.

[Big Cat]

But he played the 66 games.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, the. The amount of games he played would be fine under today's rules.

[Big Cat]

So you're just mad that there's a rule that was linked to Joel Embiid? I'm confused.

[PFT Commenter]

I think he wants us to be more upset at Wimby for not playing as many games, despite the fact that he's on pace to play more games than Joel Embiid did.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right, so this is it. The. The Joel and Bead rule. And Also remember, the 65 game rule first got announced. Everyone was celebrating, also using it to on Embiid. Now all of a sudden, people are realizing the rule sucks and it's hilarious. Okay. People were seething when Embiid won MVP. And when the 65 game rule got put in place, I think people were seething that Joe embiid won the MVP because Jokic was better. But when the 65 game rule got put in place, a lot of people acted like it was the best idea in the world. And that would really show those load management players. The glaring issue with this rule are finally showing. And everyone's surprised that players actually get injured while playing a vigorous 81 game where they sprint up and down. Okay, so again, what. But he played 66 games. I think they're mad at the rule, not at Joel B. This seems like that's where you're confused. I get what you're. I think I figured it out. Okay. Max is mad because the rule is kind of silly in that guys actually get hurt. SGA actually got hurt this year. Right. So it's weird to put an arbitrary number on. Like, hey, if. If SGA actually gets hurt and he plays 62 games, but he's the best player, he should still win mvp. I agree with that. Max is just mad that the rule was put in place because of Joel Embiid, but it's not taking away Joel Embiid's MVP because he played 66 games.

[PFT Commenter]

It's called. He's upset that it's called the Joel Embiid rule. That's what it comes down.

[Big Cat]

Precisely.

[PFT Commenter]

The name of the rule feels insulting to him.

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

So let's change the name, Max.

[Big Cat]

Okay. What do we want to call it?

[Max]

Let's talk about something else.

[PFT Commenter]

No, let's change the name. We can. We can do this. This is the discourse, right?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, we're doing the discourse.

[PFT Commenter]

We're the number one sports podcast. Maybe in the world. I don't know if there's a. I'm doing research.

[Max]

I'm reading.

[PFT Commenter]

We have the ability to influence a new name.

[Big Cat]

Jalen Brown.

[PFT Commenter]

The Jalen Brown rule.

[Big Cat]

Okay. You want to do that?

[PFT Commenter]

I don't think. But he hasn't won.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You don't want to do that.

[Hank]

We should get him MVP first.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

And then.

[PFT Commenter]

No. I think WIMBY should win MVP this year.

[Big Cat]

The no allowed unless you're actually hurt rule.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Prove your. Prove you're injured.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Hurt or injured rule.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Hurt or injured. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

If you're hurt, you should play. If you're injured, that's okay. We won't hold it against you.

[Big Cat]

Everyone has to be designated with a hurt or injured.

[PFT Commenter]

Hurt or injured. But it's spelled like H U E R. T E R. Yes.

[Big Cat]

Hurt her.

[PFT Commenter]

Injured.

[Big Cat]

Yes. Zach, where do you weighing on this?

[Zach]

But Jaylen Brown. Hurt and injured.

[Big Cat]

He. He's hurt and injured.

[Zach]

I would say hurt and injured right now. Play last night, hearing a lot of Achilles tendonitis rumors.

[PFT Commenter]

Does he have a.

[Zach]

Some call that crippling down the Stretch. I'm not sure, but.

[Max]

Whoa.

[Big Cat]

Nick, Zach is coming out right now.

[PFT Commenter]

I heard he's got a hairline fracture.

[Big Cat]

I love this. That can't be good because this is.

[PFT Commenter]

That was just a head joke.

[Big Cat]

Hank is ready for Max and memes. I'm ready for the Boo.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't give a.

[Big Cat]

No. You're not ready for Zach.

[Hank]

I'll take on that whole booth.

[Big Cat]

Zach is a. Zach is a hoop head.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach, I got a question for you.

[Zach]

Yes, sir.

[PFT Commenter]

The Achilles tendonitis. Is that what Christian McCaffrey had when he missed, like, basically a full NFL season?

[Big Cat]

Oh, when the walls talked.

[Zach]

That'd be correct.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Huh.

[PFT Commenter]

Same thing. And he had to, like, fly to Germany.

[Zach]

Going global for a fix. Can't be good.

[PFT Commenter]

Never good. Never good.

[Big Cat]

It. Right now, it would be Nick. Celtic, second round, right?

[Hank]

You know who's gonna be first round?

[Big Cat]

Celtics, possibly Sixers. If they win the.

[Max]

There's a lot. There's a lot going on.

[Hank]

It will be Celtic, Sixers, Celtics, Knicks.

[Max]

That doesn't. There's so much that needs to happen before that.

[Big Cat]

There's seven games left, and the Sixers

[Max]

are a game back of the team in front of them.

[Hank]

It will be Celtics, and then it will be.

[Max]

No, no, no. They're a game and a half back of the five.

[PFT Commenter]

I think I'm. No, they're a game and a half

[Big Cat]

back of the six.

[PFT Commenter]

I think I'm on Hank's side.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Hank]

You have that future, right?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, no, I cashed it out, but.

[Big Cat]

But have you decided what to do with it? Because, remember, you said you were going to think of something else.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm putting all my mental energy into wimby getting the mvp.

[Geno Smith]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

Now that's what. That's what I'm dealing with.

[Max]

Other game back of both.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh.

[Big Cat]

So you want to apologize to me?

[PFT Commenter]

Sure.

[Hank]

And me.

[Max]

Sorry. I'm so. Hey, big cat.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm so sorry.

[Max]

I'm so sorry. Will you please accept my apology?

[PFT Commenter]

I can't believe he got so mad about us saying Wimby should be you guys.

[Big Cat]

It's actually our April Fool's joke.

[PFT Commenter]

You guys are talking about Joel Embiid again.

[Max]

It literally is the embiid. It is the Embiid.

[PFT Commenter]

It doesn't matter because he's going to play enough games where he'll play more than Embiid did.

[Max]

Yeah, I also don't think that's true.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it is.

[Max]

There's seven games left of the season. He's played 59 games.

[PFT Commenter]

Fact check.

[Max]

That would be 66.

[PFT Commenter]

Fact check. I think he has more because he played in the NBA Cup Final.

[Max]

That doesn't count.

[PFT Commenter]

But it's a game. It's another game.

[Max]

That is not a game. That game does not exist.

[Big Cat]

It's.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it might count for the.

[Big Cat]

He's actually right about it. That game does not count. Pfd.

[Max]

You know that.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it counts for Joel Embiid rule.

[Big Cat]

No, I think.

[PFT Commenter]

I think it might. I think it might for the Joel.

[Max]

Now who's getting angry?

[PFT Commenter]

I think it might for the. I'm not getting angry. You are. You're still getting angry.

[Max]

You're the one who said you're still angry. You're the one who said you're trying

[PFT Commenter]

to talk about Wimby. When some of us put money on Wimby to win the MVP before the season started and are trying to make a lucrative investment happen here. Max.

[Max]

We. We don't do that on this show.

[Big Cat]

Group stage, quarterfinal, semifinal count. The NBA Cup Final does not count

[PFT Commenter]

for the Joel Embiid rule.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

I don't know about that.

[Big Cat]

We're just in a.

[Max]

There's been a lot of wrong information.

[Big Cat]

Is the. At its best where no one knows anything, but we are aggressively going at it?

[Hank]

I think.

[PFT Commenter]

I think I read that because they were in the NBA Cup Finals there. Did the schedule get pushed back at all, where they have an additional game?

[Big Cat]

No, the game doesn't exist.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I know that. I know that game doesn't exist, but I think they have. They might have more games left in the regular season.

[Big Cat]

I'm looking.

[PFT Commenter]

Than some other teams do.

[Big Cat]

I mean. Well, of course not. There's. It's never even.

[PFT Commenter]

Right.

[Big Cat]

But. No, a lot of teams are at 75 games right now, including the Spurs. Like the. The spurs are at 75, the Thunder at 76. The Pistons are at 75, the Celtics are at 75. The Knicks are at 75. So. Yeah, I don't think so.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they might.

[Big Cat]

We've learned nothing. It's good. I mean, listen, when there's not a lot going on, we just. We'll just. No one will do research. Zachary, come in with some very strong opinions.

[PFT Commenter]

Zachary. Worried about the Knicks not beating anybody.

[Zach]

There's a world where that's true, but I'm not worried about that now.

[Big Cat]

Seems like it should be.

[PFT Commenter]

They haven't really beaten anybody recently.

[Zach]

But you got to believe sometimes I'm okay with being a little bit delusional.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[Zach]

And that's where I'm going to start here. Start delusional. We're going to finish strong.

[Big Cat]

Would saying out loud that you're okay being a little delusional mean you're not delusional?

[Zach]

That didn't help my case whatsoever. Now that I hear you repeat it back.

[Big Cat]

Right. Because the minute you admit you're delusional, it's like, well, actually, you're pretty grounded.

[Zach]

Maybe I'm. Maybe I'm misreading my own delusion.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

Could be the case.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Let's do Hot Seat, Cool Throne. Then we have Danny Hurley on the show. It is brought to you by our friends at State Farm. In basketball, the great players don't just go it alone. They have teammates, coaches, and a solid support system behind them. It's kind of like insurance because, let's face it, a lot of us probably aren't great at doing that alone either. And that's where State Farm comes in. State Farm is a teammate, always ready to assist, help you find the coverage you need and need and help you recover from the unexpected, from fender benders to storm damage or even just a question about your policy, State Farm is there to help provide an assist when you need it through the State Farm mobile app, a network of 19,000 local agents, and online@state farm.com so don't just go it alone. When you need help protecting what matters most, State Farm is there. State Farm with the assist. Coverage options are selected by the customer. Availability and eligibility may vary by state. We're also brought to you by our friends at Chevy. Football season might be over, but you know how it goes. The minute the big game ends, we're already talking about what's next. Free agency, the draft, who's getting paid, who's grinding. Because for football guys, there is no off season. And that's exactly why they roll with the Chevy Silverado. Silverado is the truck that shows up every time. Built to haul, tow, and take a beating. But smartwear accounts with modern tech that makes life easier. Big screenshots available, camera views that help with towing and parking and cabin that feels right. Whether you're road tripping, heading to practice, or loading up for the weekend, during the season, it's the MVP of the tailgate. After the season, it turns into your training camp truck. Hauling gear, tackling home projects, and doing the work that never stops. Because the grind doesn't take breaks. And neither does Silverado. Check out the current offers and build your own chevy [e-mail] Roan just tried to call me back. I should at least just know that we figured it out we think we figured it out. Hey, brother. Hey, you're live on. Pardon my take. We called. I think we figured it out, but we couldn't. Max was mad that people were having. Were saying Wemby should win the MVP because he's mad because he thinks it's a slight against embiid, who played 66 games when he won the MVP. We couldn't figure out why. Why.

[Geno Smith]

Why it's good for us.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, but no. Run. I think that Max was upset because everybody made fun of Wimby when he won The MVP playing 66. Rowan. I think. I think Max is upset because when Embiid won The MVP playing 66 games, people made fun of him. But now Wimby is going to win the MVP playing, like, 67 games, and nobody's making fun of him.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We.

[Geno Smith]

I'll make fun of Wemby if that's what we want to do.

[Big Cat]

Does that make.

[Max]

That's what I'm talking about. That's my guy.

[Big Cat]

All right.

[Geno Smith]

Should we make fun of him? We can make fun of Wendy. That'd be nice.

[PFT Commenter]

But. But only in the sense of, like, yes, he won the mvp. He deserves to win the mvp. But also, let's make fun of him on top of that. We don't want to besmirch him too much. Some of us have a lot of money tied up in Wimby MVP futures.

[Big Cat]

I love that. I mean, the real MVP is Jalen Brown, but that's a whole.

[Hank]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[Hank]

Hey, thank you.

[Geno Smith]

Thanks.

[Big Cat]

Saying thank you. Okay, Well, I think we figured out it was just like Max got. So it was essentially like when one of. Like when. When your child is having a tantrum and you have to call, like, my wife will do it sometimes, where one of my kids will be having a tantrum show at the FaceTime, he'd be like, can you please talk to them and talk them down off the ledge that you were the parent we were getting to have. Max, calm down.

[Geno Smith]

Max.

[Big Cat]

I mean, I get it, buddy.

[Geno Smith]

They're always going to be hating on somebody from Philly.

[Big Cat]

They're always going to have a worse read on somebody from Philly.

[Geno Smith]

Always going to give us less of

[Jerry O'Connell]

the benefit of the doubt.

[Geno Smith]

So your instincts are right there. But, you know, we can't even be worried about it. Just give it to Jalen Brown and let us get them in the first round, and we'll take care of business.

[Big Cat]

Oh, I love it. I love it. All right. Max said, you're right. Thank you, Roan.

[Geno Smith]

All right.

[Big Cat]

All Right. See ya. Oh, yeah, it's great.

[Max]

I don't like that. He said he wanted the Celtics, but maybe that's how he's not a.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, who do you think should get. Who do you think should get huge coach of the year award?

[Big Cat]

Wait. Oh, that. That was great. Joe Missoula. That cool.

[PFT Commenter]

You see that?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Joe Missoula said, I think it's a stupid award. You shouldn't have it. It's about the players and the work the staff puts in. It's that simple. I really don't want to be asked or talk about again.

[Big Cat]

I have a question, Max. Have you been looking at the NBA standings basically every day being like, please don't have it. Be the Sixers versus Celtics.

[Max]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

100. Max, follow up question.

[Hank]

I said, he's like, there's a lot of games left.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, he's in his head. He's like, there's just no way this could happen.

[Hank]

It's happening.

[PFT Commenter]

Max, is there a possibility that this game could happen? We're gonna have the 2 seed on your bachelor party?

[Max]

There's a.

[Big Cat]

Yes. It could be.

[Max]

I think it was like, game seven could happen.

[Big Cat]

Wow.

[PFT Commenter]

That'd be a shame that there's no

[Max]

way it gets a game.

[Hank]

That's true. If it gets a game seven, why

[Big Cat]

the Sixers gonna win that quickly?

[Hank]

That'd be bad.

[PFT Commenter]

That would be such a shame if that happened on your bachelor party.

[Big Cat]

Oh, my God. All right. Hot seat cools your own, Hank.

[Hank]

Hot seat's Jordan's furniture.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

I guess New England to New England. New England furniture place. They did a deal, like January through March. If you bought furniture or anything in the store, it's like a huge, you know, warehouse siiz store. If both Yukon teams make the championship, not even win. Make the championship. Everything you bought is free.

[Big Cat]

So as soon as they be on the cool throne.

[PFT Commenter]

Hot seat. They might have to lose. They might be losing money.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but they're not going to lose any money. Why they always take out insurance on this? I guess it's just a gimmick.

[PFT Commenter]

Run. Run the good gimmick.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Run the rules.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

They.

[Big Cat]

You have to buy something.

[Hank]

Anything purchased between. I think it's January 20th. And, like, when did March Madness start? March 4th.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it's usually in March.

[Hank]

If you bought it in between that time period and both Yukon teams make the championship, everything is free.

[PFT Commenter]

So how does that work? Is like, is this a Massachusetts area store?

[Hank]

It's like New England. Like, there's a few in New England.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay. What's. They're like.

[Hank]

It's like one of those stores that has, like, malls and.

[PFT Commenter]

What's the crossover percentage of Patriots fans?

[Hank]

They have an IMAX theater in New York.

[PFT Commenter]

Orange furniture. What's the crossover of Patriots fans who are also Yukon fans?

[Hank]

Huge.

[PFT Commenter]

Is it like the majority?

[Big Cat]

I think Connecticut's.

[Hank]

I think, yeah.

[Big Cat]

Like, Connecticut as a state is like half and half.

[PFT Commenter]

They've had it so good. Those. The uk. The Yukon fans that are also Boston sports fans have had the best life.

[Big Cat]

I feel like half of the.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

The.

[Big Cat]

The southern part of Connecticut is. Is like New York.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Zach]

But.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, this is. This is a great. It's. It is Mattress Mac. Remember, he used to do that with the Astros. It's great deal because you just take out an insurance policy and if.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

You sell a shitload of furniture.

[PFT Commenter]

I like to do that. If all four Washington sports teams make it to their finals in the same year, I will give away all my money to one person.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

In perpetuity.

[PFT Commenter]

In perpetuity. I would never earn another cent in my life if they.

[Hank]

No, I'm saying, like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

So there's. It's not this year.

[PFT Commenter]

It's just one person would just get every salary I would ever make.

[Big Cat]

All I have to do is go to the finals.

[PFT Commenter]

If all four in the same calendar year ever make it to the finals.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

And.

[PFT Commenter]

And two of them have to win,

[Hank]

what do they have?

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, two of them have to win.

[Hank]

What do they have to do?

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's fair. In return, not absolutely nothing. They have to enter. They have to listen to part of my take. Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Prove.

[PFT Commenter]

Show me one proof of purchase that you have downloaded an episode of part of my take. Subscribe and I will decide on one person. I'm a great. I'm a great. And guess what? Not only will I give you all my salary, but then I'm going to match that and give away that amount to charity in one lump sum when it happens.

[Big Cat]

How would you do that?

[PFT Commenter]

Because I'm gonna save money until. Until then.

[Hank]

Futures.

[PFT Commenter]

I'm gonna give away all my money that I already have.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

To charity. And then one person will just take over my. My income from that point.

[Big Cat]

I like that.

[PFT Commenter]

You're welcome, America. What a great guy.

[Big Cat]

Thank you.

[PFT Commenter]

FFT for the kids.

[Hank]

My cool throne is wild.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

What?

[Hank]

The lottery ball numbers on Sunday show.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Hank]

Seven thousand, 372.

[Big Cat]

7372. Yukon Duke.

[PFT Commenter]

That's wild.

[Big Cat]

That is wild.

[PFT Commenter]

We're also very dumb for not picking up on that in the so stupid

[Big Cat]

would have been great moment.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Totally ruined by our idiocy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep. Happens a lot.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

But wild.

[Big Cat]

Wild.

[PFT Commenter]

Very wild.

[Big Cat]

Okay. Pft.

[PFT Commenter]

My hot seat is protein bars.

[Geno Smith]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

Because there's a new product that's. That's debuting in Saudi Arabia right now. It's hookah, but it's protein. And BCAAs, like branch chain amino acids.

[Hank]

This is just protein.

[PFT Commenter]

But for hookah, it's bro. It's my protein idea, but it's. You smoke it. So they have like these big lounges. Yeah, you have these big lounges that you. You go to after you're done working out. You can even have them in the gym. And you sit down and you just. You chill and you just smoke your protein after you work out. Which sounds hilarious. I don't know how effective it is.

[Hank]

How much protein are we talking? How much pro. Listen, this is how much protein per. Per rip.

[PFT Commenter]

I think this is still in the. The nascent phase. They're still studying. It's. It's not even beta yet, I don't think. But yeah, they're rolling them out right now in Riyadh and then Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Bahrain. So a doctor claims that inhaled protein enters the bloodstream faster and absorbed more efficiently. It's kind of like weed. Like, if you eat a brownie, it takes a long time for you to get high, but if you smoke it, you get high, like, immediately.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[PFT Commenter]

This guy's thinking about that. Except for gains.

[Big Cat]

Huh?

[PFT Commenter]

Like, the gains happen more immediately if you smoke it.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

All I'm saying is, like, keep your eye on this. On this technology because it has protein shisha. It has the opportunity to revolutionize bro culture.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I like this.

[PFT Commenter]

Then my cool throne is going to be Jordan. Did you see what happened. Did you see what happened with Jordan over the weekend?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

She had another chip. She got another ring.

[Big Cat]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, Jordan won a ring. She talked a lot of. To all the haters that called her a gold digger. She said, hashtag, gold digger got paid. And this was a national championship that they won. The cheer for charity. C4C. National championship. Jordan Hudson's cheerleading team. They won the title, so good for her. The pictures that she posted were pretty fantastic. They look very accomplished, very proud. No pictures of Bill. I don't know if Bill was at this or not. Probably hard at work on the recruiting trail, but yeah, if. Listen, you can call Jordan Hudson a lot of things, but you better call our national champ.

[Big Cat]

I call her winner. Yeah, she's a winner.

[PFT Commenter]

National champion.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. My Hot seat is Tiger woods, because we got some more details.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And he had some pills, loose pills in his pocket. Also had a vicious case of the hiccups, which was reported.

[PFT Commenter]

Hiccups. That's not evidence of a crime. As. As a lawyer or somebody who. Who would like to study for the bar exam at one point. They can't arrest you for having.

[Hank]

Could pass the bar exam.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Correct.

[Big Cat]

Which you're gonna do.

[PFT Commenter]

Which I will do eventually. But he had the hiccups.

[Big Cat]

He had the hiccups. They said he had a vicious case of the hiccups. Yeah. Not good. Not good to have. He admitted to doing his medication earlier in the day. Yeah. Doesn't seem like he was of sound mind and body when driving this car.

[PFT Commenter]

So they.

[Big Cat]

Also sweating profusely in his movement, was lethargic and slow. While he was being interviewed by the

[PFT Commenter]

police, they found two hydrocodons in his pocket. Yeah. And a lot of people are like, why didn't he get rid of those in the time after the crash before the cops showed up? I would say, like, maybe imagine what he did get rid of in the time in between when he crashed and the cops showed up.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And he still had those left over.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Not good. Not good.

[PFT Commenter]

He should just never drive again.

[Big Cat]

It's the only place he feels normal.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

It's true.

[PFT Commenter]

He goes to get away from it all.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No, it's. It's bad. It's bad. He's. He's got to get it figured out. But because this is like, again, someone could easily die, and it's really, really. It's selfish behavior.

[Hank]

How crazy would it be if he still plays the Masters?

[Big Cat]

No chance.

[Hank]

He's still on the.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, well, yeah, because he's still listed and he has a. He's opening a golf course next to Augusta that next week, so he'll probably be there. Maybe.

[Hank]

How crazy would it be if he plays?

[Big Cat]

I mean, Scott Van Pelt told us he's. It's Masters, the one place he's going to play forever. Because the fans are not aggressive. They don't have phones. Everyone reveres them. It's not like going to play at a US Open where people will heckle you. So maybe.

[PFT Commenter]

Damn. They should just call the parking lot as new course, the driving range. Just get some practice in. Try shots that you haven't tried before.

[Big Cat]

Our good friend Kate, our colleague Kate had. She said, why doesn't he. He's so rich. Why doesn't he just build a course in his backyard? They just flip his car every day.

[PFT Commenter]

Like Travis Pastrana.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Just go. Go. Oh, Tiger, you want to go drive? Okay. Go flip your car in the backyard. Don't hurt anyone.

[PFT Commenter]

Nitro Circus.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. So I think it'd be kind of crazy if he played and. What. What if he played? Well?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How would the announcers talk about it?

[Big Cat]

Insane. Be insane.

[PFT Commenter]

I think they. I think they'd immediately jump to, like, what a. What a redemption story this is. Yeah.

[Max]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Cat]

The Tiger fanboys.

[PFT Commenter]

The Tiger comeback.

[Big Cat]

Same.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Let's go, Tiger. He doesn't even have to win. He has to just. He'd have to just make the cut.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. If he makes the cut like this. Is this the most impressive sports story that we've had in the last 10 years?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. DUI.

[PFT Commenter]

Tiger making the cut at Augusta after getting arrested for DUI seven days before.

[Big Cat]

Murder. What murder?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Remember that clip?

[Big Cat]

It was a great club. The guys in New York. John Gotti. Murder. What murder? You have the clip for me, Max, look at you. Murder John. God, he's a good guy. Other hot seat is Mark Cuban, because he's got some sellers. Remorse. He has kind of. There's been rumored for buying it again. Well, he's trying to buy it back. Yeah, yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

He.

[Big Cat]

He basically was like, I don't regret selling the team. I regret selling to who I sold it to. And he said he made a lot of mistakes in the process. I still don't understand what Mark Cuban thought was going to happen when. Remember when he was announced that he sold the majority stake, he's like, but nothing's changing.

[PFT Commenter]

He said he was going to be kept around for. For basketball decisions.

[Big Cat]

No, you aren't. No one buys a billion dollar organization. They're like, yeah, you know what? Let's keep the old guy around who did. Who is a minority stake owner now.

[PFT Commenter]

One thing that Mark Cuban is very, very good at is keeping his name in the news. So when he said that, it was like, yeah, I did sell the team, but. But please continue to treat me as if I still own the team. And then now he's talking about rebuying the team so that people will continue to talk about Mark Cuban. Yeah. Like, I know you guys just figured out that I don't actually still own the team, but don't worry, because I'm about to buy it again. So if you could just keep talking about me as if I own the team. Until that point, everything will be copacetic.

[Big Cat]

So Mark Cuban back in the news. My cool throne is. It's me because I'm on our. Let's check our 43 of my fast and I don't feel hungry at all.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you going?

[Big Cat]

I just might be a fast guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Are you going 72?

[Big Cat]

I don't know. I do. I. I miss food. I'm not hungry.

[Hank]

How's your phone battery been?

[Big Cat]

Fine. 43 hours. What do you think about that memes?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, you're charging it right now.

[Big Cat]

Well, yeah, duh. I will say it's kind of. It's kind of sick. You get through the first, like, 14 to 18 hours, you, hunger kind of goes away.

[Hank]

I need you to just keep track of things over the course of days and weeks using this. This stuff.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you had, like, any lapses in memory, Any tiredness?

[Big Cat]

No, I woke up drinking water. Black coffee. That's it. There's a little. I bought some electrolytes on. On online that you just put into your water. I did that like, twice yesterday. That's it. I feel great. I do miss eating because I like eating, but I might just be a fast guy.

[PFT Commenter]

So when you go back to eating, back to food life, then you're just going to eat like normal?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm gonna slowly try to. I've. I. I retract what I said last week where I was like, I'm just going straight back into regular food. People are like. That will essentially reverse everything you did and make you feel like a garbage human being. So I am going to, to. I'm going to do it the right way and I'm going to ease myself back in.

[PFT Commenter]

And then, like, will there be any, like, permanent effects of the fast on your body?

[Big Cat]

All my cells re. Re. Regenerated.

[PFT Commenter]

Oh, so it's a new you.

[Big Cat]

Correct.

[PFT Commenter]

Literally unrecognizable.

[Big Cat]

Correct. It's good for gut health. It's good for.

[Max]

What does gut health mean?

[Big Cat]

Don't worry about it. What does the 65 game rule mean? It means how does it apply to Embiid?

[Max]

And there's many seasons that Embiid didn't get to 65.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know why?

[PFT Commenter]

Because he didn't have guts.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, exactly.

[Max]

Nor health.

[Big Cat]

I'm doing point. Everyone should try it. It's easy. It's actually not that hard.

[PFT Commenter]

We should actually do a segment where it's just like, six degrees of separation from Joel Embiid.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

How can we make any story about Joel Embiid?

[Big Cat]

Zach.

[Zach]

Yes, sir. Hot seat Coulter hot sequel throw. I would like to say we do have to respect gut biomes around here.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[Zach]

Hot seat this week is going to Be people who think it's a good idea to invest in their future monetarily. Did anyone see Warren Buffett talking about stocks plummeting?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

No. What'd he say? I just.

[Zach]

I just saw a video. Warren Buffett being like, hey, all Americans, be prepared. 40% drop.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Zach]

So I'm wondering, like, do we rethink we shouldn't do stocks? We got. There's gotta be new ways to invest. Yeah, our stock's done.

[PFT Commenter]

Protein hookah bars, Bitcoin.

[Zach]

Do you think those make you full? The protein shisha. When you smoke it, you think you're. You get, like, satiated.

[PFT Commenter]

I think you just get jacked up. I think. I think you just, like, rip a bong, and then you walk away and you're a beast. You look like that Florida Gators fan.

[Big Cat]

No offense, but I can't be having this conversation. I don't eat food anymore.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, that actually would. Then the protein hookah would be perfect for you.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, maybe I could do that. Great. Way fast. I don't know.

[PFT Commenter]

No, but wait. So, Zach. So Warren Buffett said the stock market's going to crash.

[Zach]

He said 40, which feels like a. I know that's not a majority when it comes to percentages, but it feels like a majority.

[Big Cat]

That's a lot of percent.

[Zach]

Feels like it's all the money.

[Big Cat]

Right. We don't want that percent.

[PFT Commenter]

A big percent. It also sounds like somebody might be trying to crash the market so that maybe then he could buy more of the market.

[Max]

I just put money in the stock market for the first time in my life last week.

[Big Cat]

Oh, so there's your sign.

[PFT Commenter]

Yes, there's your sign. I'm calling my. My financial guy. Yep. There's a bubble.

[Big Cat]

Max has jumped in. Okay, good. Hot seat.

[Zach]

And should we still be. Is Warren Buffett still in the game? That.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

He's still the guy, even at that age.

[Big Cat]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Zach]

That's good to know.

[PFT Commenter]

Still alive. So you know what? He might be still alive. Guy of the Year.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, right.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, put Warren Buffett. Is somebody doing a list for the takeies?

[Big Cat]

I don't think so.

[Zach]

I've got a short list.

[PFT Commenter]

All right. Put Warren Buffett as a nominee for. For Still Alive Guy of the Year.

[Zach]

I can do it, sir.

[Big Cat]

Okay, what's your cool.

[Zach]

Throw in my cool throne. I was going to get into a little bit of Wimby talk because he did drop another 40 piece last night, but we won't do that because we covered a lot of Wimby.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach, do you Think he should be MVP right now. Yes, I agree.

[Zach]

He's creeping on, like, breaking basketball territory.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I agree.

[Zach]

And so we'll pivot there and we'll just go. Did you guys see Colorado Rockies dropped pizza donuts?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Zach]

I've never seen that kind of mix mixing before.

[Big Cat]

Not a fan.

[Zach]

You're out on the pizza donut.

[Big Cat]

I think it's too much.

[Zach]

Is it too savory or is it just, like, too out there?

[Big Cat]

I guess I got to know exactly how it's. Dude. Because, like, a donut burger makes sense to me. Because you could. Like a sweet glazed donut with a hamburger meat makes sense. Tomato sauce on a donut doesn't make sense.

[Max]

No, I disagree with everything that you just said.

[Big Cat]

Okay, great.

[Max]

Because I don't think any sweetness. I don't think there's any sweetness. I think it's just like, the. A plain donut with, like, no glaze or anything, but it's just savory. The crust is donut instead of, like, sweet.

[Big Cat]

All right, I'm willing to try.

[PFT Commenter]

So pizza is dough. Talk me through what's on this donut here.

[Zach]

So we got. We'll go unsweetened. So we got donut, right base. Then we got garlic butter, which gives us that good garlic.

[Big Cat]

That's already.

[Zach]

Where we got pepperoni, cheese pesto. With the drizzle, I would eat the

[Max]

fuck out of this.

[PFT Commenter]

So that's not asparagus on top. That's a drizzle.

[Max]

That's pesto.

[Zach]

Pesto drizzle.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay, which. Okay, that. That makes me change my mind a little bit. Is it a glazed donut? Like, is it sweet or the glaze?

[Big Cat]

I just said this.

[PFT Commenter]

The glaze is the garlic.

[Zach]

Glazes. The garlic. Think in that terms. Yes. The glaze is the garlic.

[Big Cat]

Wait, so there's no glaze? It's just a regular plain donut garlic glaze.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that's good then.

[Big Cat]

Fine. But that also.

[Geno Smith]

But.

[PFT Commenter]

But if it's a sweet donut and you put that on there, I think it's bad.

[Big Cat]

Do you agree with me, Max?

[Max]

I agree. If it's a sweet donut out.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

You can only be in one lane of donut with this pizza. Like, whereas the donut burger, you can. You can make it sweet.

[Max]

See, I'm out on that. I think that's. That's too much.

[Big Cat]

I don't really like it. But I. I'm saying, like, I understand it. I like. Hey, listen, I don't even like chocolate covered pretzels because I Like to separate my sweet and savory.

[Zach]

So you guys are out on the bacon. On the sweet donut.

[Big Cat]

What are you looking at me like?

[Max]

No.

[Big Cat]

Chocolate covered pretzels. I like to eat the chocolate, then the pretzels, then back to the chocolate, then back to the pretzels. And then. I've said this before, but the. The hardest thing that I have to go through. I know this is going to be a struggle. It's. It's at night trying to figure out what I end with. Savory or sweet.

[PFT Commenter]

It's.

[Big Cat]

It's torture.

[PFT Commenter]

I think that the savory, sweet combination for most donuts is something that's mostly meant to. For people to take pictures of and post online and not actually something that most people enjoy eating.

[Big Cat]

All these. All of these ballpark things are exactly that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yep.

[Big Cat]

Boozy ice cream that I'm okay with. Actually. Did you guys see Costco? The we need to get one of these. Did you guys see. I'll get one this weekend. Maybe I'll get one before Friday show. They have a £10 giant chocolate bunny that is so big, it has instructions with a hammer.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you have to break it open with a hammer to eat it.

[Big Cat]

They also have a Costco. There's not no free ads. They have a bottle of whiskey that's called I got that dog in me. It's hot dog whiskey.

[PFT Commenter]

Hot dog flavored whiskey.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I was. Immediately when I saw the bunny, I thought, that is a barstool after dark stream waiting to happen.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Eat the bunny. Put the bunny chocolate.

[Big Cat]

Football was for everyone.

[PFT Commenter]

That's true. Yeah, that's very true. Have you. So I. I put Max on these last week. The chocolate covered gummy bears at Trader Joe's. Amazing. Yeah, they're. They're actually fantastic.

[Big Cat]

Those are okay. But that's sweet sweet.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, sweet sweet.

[Max]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I can do sweet sweet. Okay, let's get to our interview with Danny Hurley and then we'll finish. We have. We're gonna rip some packs and we got guys on chicks.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. He's a recurring guest. It is head coach of the Connecticut Huskies, Final four bound, Dan Hurley. Coach. It feels like a tradition every year around this time. Three out of last four, you're in the final four. And I want to talk about everything that transpired in the lead eight. But we have to start with the most pressing question. The headbutt. The headbutt with Roger Ayers. What's going on there?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

It was not it. Well, head hug.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, there you go.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I don't know. You ever see reindeer? Where are they? Kind of like with each other's nose. They kind of.

[PFT Commenter]

My dog does that sometimes with like the top of his head.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, yeah, more of a nuzzle. An affectionate nuzzle.

[Geno Smith]

No, with.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

With Roger. See, all these refs are different, right? They all got different thresholds or personalities. Roger's like very playful. I mean, listen, the guy is. He's one of the greatest refs ever. You know, like the guy. Don't. You don't mess up a lot of calls. You know, when it's when you're going too far, he'll give you a look, and, you know. You know, he'll tee your ass. But he's playful, he's funny, he messes with you during the game, you. You bust his chops back. And it was just so. Like, I would say that there's a lot of coaches that he refs that you have a much different type of relationship with Roger than you do with pretty much every other official. He's funny, he's playful. It wasn't like I almost wanted to either chest bump him or kiss him on the forehead when we hit that shot. It was like, more like, you know, I was almost expecting Roger to be happy for me, but then I realized, oh, no, this is a ref.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I. I was saying that you should consider kissing the ref next time, because I don't think they'll tee you up for that. I think they'd just be like, wait, wait, what. What just happened? Nobody could be mad at you after the fact, either. It's like, oh, love is love.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

One on each cheek, like they do in Italy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Cat]

And it was. It was very clear in the moment. It wasn't a premeditated. It was because I. I was defending you.

[PFT Commenter]

I was.

[Big Cat]

I said that it looked like he was trying to tell you something, and it was so loud that you. Most people listen best when they're forehead to forehead, and that's what you were trying to do. You're just leaning in to listen.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, he was coming. Listen. He was coming in to say, hey, listen. There's gonna be, you know, so, you know, point three on the clock or whatever. But again, it's like. It's different with Roger. Roger, this wasn't like the Marquette situation, right? You know, where, you know, this was. This was different because Roger, you know, Roger's just a. He's. He approaches officiating in a way different manner. He diffuses like, you know, with. With humor. Like, he's just. Man, he's. He's one of the best.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. And I think it also was just the look in your eye. Did you black out? Because it looked like you blacked out.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Well, my jacket. I mean, if you just look at everything that was going on there, it was. I was like the Jim Valvano, the late Jim Valvano, you know, versus Houston. Only there was still time left as. But I did start running a little bit, and I never win a game like that. I think the only time I've ever won a game at the Buzzer was on, like a tip in put back. Otherwise, I either lose at the buzzer or I never win at the buzzer.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

But, yeah, it's definitely a blackout because I didn't even. Reporter asked me, like, right after the game how we got the ball back, and I couldn't even remember that they turned the ball over.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

You know, like, you just so much, you know, hysteria and excitement, and you're. You're playing, you're shooting horrible, but you're, you know, like, you're 1 for 17 from 3, and you're down 7, and you're saying to yourself, man, if we could just make a couple shots, we're going to walk these guys down and beat them. Because you look at the condition that they were in. They look tired. They were kind of just hanging on. Boozer's eye was all swelled shut. I mean, it. You know, like, it was. Man, it was just. It was a crazy game.

[PFT Commenter]

I heard that your. Your assistants didn't even tell you how bad the shooting performance was for UConn. Is that true? You asked them, and they. They wouldn't give you a straight line.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

They were lying to me. They were out outright lying to me. Luke Murray was lying to me. That's why I sent. I sent Luke to Boston College today.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it was. It was crazy. It was an unbelievable game. Unbelievable. This is why we love the tournament. I have. I have a theory, and you can tell me if this is. Is way off, but I actually feel like the most important part of that game was not the end, was not like the last four minutes. It was actually like the last three minutes of the first half because you guys were getting dog walked, and then you had a little stretch where Duke missed. I. I don't think they scored a bucket for, like, three minutes. How important is that, though, when you're going into the locker room where it's like, hey, we're down 19, we're down 20, whatever it may be. Can we just cut it to, like, 11, 12 so that we have something going into halftime where we can be like, hey, guys, we're right there.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, I mean, it was a. I mean, it was a crap show at that point, you know, or you can use the other word. We were. I mean, and Terrorist Reed was, like, really the only guy that was playing well for us, and he was in foul trouble, and he was on the bench with two fouls, so. And it was 19. And if that game gets. That game gets to mid 20s or even low 20s, it's going to be. It's going to be tough, but, you know, Malachi Smith, you know, a little dude from the Bronx, made some plays there and, and you know, we're able to just get it to 15 and, and I've been in, I've been in locker rooms in the NCBA tournament where you got the doom and gloom and, and it's quiet and it's eerie. You know, 22 when we lost to New Mexico State, you know, that locker room was like a dead locker room. Our locker room was. There's a pretty healthy locker room. You know, the guys felt like, you know, we were walking down, we were just going to kind of, you know, wear them down. You know, body blows, possession by possession, make some defensive adjustments, try to get after them a little bit more, turn them over and, and I just, you know, just pray that you just make. Finally make some shots and yeah, we finally made some shots.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see the, the video after the game, the live reaction that your mother had in the crowd?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, I saw it.

[PFT Commenter]

That was an incredible moment, I think.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, I lived it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Tell. You know, that's where people, they should stop blaming me and they should blame my mother and my family and my parents and where I grew up and how I grew up and how I was parented. People are, they get very. I trigger people with the, with the way I go about my pursuit of victory and coaching and now you see where it comes from. You know, that's my mother.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

That's what my father.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Your. Your mom was locked in and it

[Coach Dan Hurley]

was a great cursing a lot too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, a lot of cursing.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a great shot because I think it showed Carlos Boozer and he goes holy. When the ball got stolen and then immediately panned over to your mom and your mom goes holy. When you make the shot, it was like, this is awesome. This is the best 10 second video clip I've seen of. Of the stands and I coach, I don't know if you had a chance to send it or to. To see it. I sent it to you last night. We re. We recreated that final shot here. Myself, Big Cat and the, the rest of the guys on part of my take, we recreated the final sequence. Have you had a chance to look at that yet?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

No, I haven't viewed it yet.

[Geno Smith]

Where.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Where did you.

[PFT Commenter]

I I DM'd it to you on. On X dot com. The everything happened. It's all happening on X.

[Big Cat]

It's on our part. My take socials.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, you can watch it there as well.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. First take I took the shot. First take.

[PFT Commenter]

Big Cat took the shot. I was, was. I think I was caravan. Yeah, I was caravan.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Who deflected it? Who stole it?

[Big Cat]

That was our guy, Jacob and myself. Yeah. Rico was not involved. We did have. It was pretty mean of us. We had Hank, who is a Duke fan. He played the role of Kaden Boozer. So that wasn't very nice of us.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach played Carlos Boozer. Cameron Boozer. Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And Memes played John Shire.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. But by the way, another underrated part because, like, I've watched every video. I hate Duke so much, and I thank you so much for doing this. Your wife was incredible in the moment too. She had everyone saying, get back on the bench.

[PFT Commenter]

She always is.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah. And she knows nothing.

[Big Cat]

She was on top of the. Get on the bench. Get on the bench.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah. She's a boss. I mean, she's Jersey boss lady. And her language was colorful too. I mean, she was grabbing people around the back of their back of their warm ups. She doesn't, she doesn't know anything about basketball. You know, like I said to her on the plane, playing. This is wild, huh?

[Hank]

Three.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Three out of four years you go into the Final Four. Did you, did you ever imagine this with your life? And she's like, I didn't even know Final four existed until 14 years ago.

[Hank]

That's great.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I saw that, that one interview with you guys. And, and she doesn't really understand how good you are at your job, does she? Has she started to figure that out by now?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

No, no, no, she, she does not. I mean, she, she, she. Her motivational tactics are, are probably like the opposite, you know? Like what? Like she, like when things aren't going well, she, she makes me feel worse. You know, she, like coming off of the St. John's loss at, at in the Big east tournament, she didn't try to build me up before the NCAA tournament. She was like, very negative and telling me, you know, hey, you're not a, you're not as good a coach as you think you are. You know, I'm not very confident in you going into the tournament, you know, so that's good.

[Big Cat]

Keeps you home.

[PFT Commenter]

So you, you never talk basketball with her at home?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

No, she, she. Well, I just. She always thought that a three pointer was a three shooter. So like if somebody would hit a. Not a three point shooter, but a made three was not a three pointer. It was a three shooter.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

You know, and then just in terms of like, she understands, like when you're on offense and you're on Defense, but, like, does not know what an assist is, does not know what a turnover is, does not know what his own defense is. You know, doesn't. I think she knows that you got to have five players.

[Big Cat]

Not if you're Nebraska.

[PFT Commenter]

Does she know. Does she know that if you're struggling to advance the ball up the court, you can take a timeout?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

She. She might know that.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. By the way, you. You tried to take a timeout.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I was.

[Big Cat]

I don't.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I don't know if the.

[PFT Commenter]

If. If.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

If the fingers touched the palm, but they were.

[Big Cat]

That was savvy of you. I actually was in the gambling cave yelling for a timeout, so I was the idiot. It was like, you get the ball back, timeout. But I think that that was a savvy move by you because you did enough of the motion that if the shot doesn't go in.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

All UConn fans can basically say, well, we try to take a timeout and not enough of the motion for it to actually be a timeout.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

But the, you know, the thing that helped us, I think, really is the best thing for you at that point of a game is obviously a deflection, right? Just some type of deflected pass. And the worst thing that could have happened for us was, was if Cam Boozer just held on to that ball when he was getting trapped initially on the first pass, because most referees at that point, like, they. They call a quick foul on that because there's not a lot of time left. So what kind of helped us was that Sar took the ball out, who's not a good free throw shooter, and we were kind of late getting to him, which caused that next pass. Like, we couldn't. Like, we wanted to foul him or Big Pat, because they were. They're not good free throw shooters. But the fact that he was taking the ball out, got that ball thrown to him so quickly, we tried to foul him, but he's not a good free throw shooter. So he got rid of the ball. But just with every pass that you throw in that situation, you're just. You're playing with fire that something's going to get deflected. And, yeah, like, the building froze when that. When that ball got deflected. You could just feel the. Oh, you know what in the building, and it was almost like the murmuring and just the. The like. Like help guide that ball in the basket.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It felt like one of the shots that was, like, meant to be the second after went in. You're like, yeah, this Was always going to happen. That's perfect. March Madness. And then you lost. Did you lose your lucky pin off your jacket?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Oh, no, I think Roger took it.

[Big Cat]

Oh.

[PFT Commenter]

During the headbutt, he pickpocketed.

[Big Cat]

The nuzzling.

[PFT Commenter]

The head hug.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

It was like my. He took my class ring or. Or whatever.

[Geno Smith]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

The pin means a lot to me because I set up a. I set up a shrine. Who's the guy from Major League?

[PFT Commenter]

Roger Dorn. No, the one that would sacrifice Pedro.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Jobu was the. The little thing.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah. So I have, like, a little setup like that for myself in the locker room in the pregame. I have all of my essential oils that I like to spray.

[PFT Commenter]

Your piss. Your piss. You like to drink.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

That's out. That's ready at the court.

[PFT Commenter]

I need.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

This is more like my spritzers, my. You know, the. The lavender holy water.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Burt's bees, a peppermint halo. I'll gargle quickly because you got to go say hi to the other coach. I think that's unpleasant. If you don't scope before you go out there and it's. And then I have any little momentos from the season after games we've won. Like, if we had, like, an autism pin or breast cancer pin and we won that game, I'll keep it. You know, like, so I have this shrine that I create. So all I could think of is I need that for my shrine in Indianapolis. And then when my brain gets consumed with something, stays there.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. No way. I would never imagine you're that type of guy.

[PFT Commenter]

The pin is MIA M. Turley found it, though.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

A trusted soldier.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

The ga. Trusted soldier. He found it under the bench. He found the pin and delivered it to me, and now it's in my. My little Michael Jordan carry case that I bring to create my shrine.

[PFT Commenter]

That's good. And then after the game, I saw you were taking good care of your lucky suit. You took that off before any of the. The festivities, did you? You took the underwear off, too? Because I saw you wearing a towel.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, I did. I. Because I have the dragon underwear.

[Big Cat]

Right.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I felt inappropriate to go into the press conference. Would you say commando, or what do people say?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

So I just figured, let me just risk it with the towel and tie it tight and preserve the socks, the underwear, and the suit. Championship experience, you know, just experience in championship locker rooms prepares you to be smart in that moment.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, you got it.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

You.

[PFT Commenter]

You can't change up anything that you're doing right now

[Big Cat]

before Yeah, I got a slightly nerdy basketball question for you. And like coaching and how you mentally get these guys ready. So I actually thought one of the biggest moments was the play before the brilliant Mullins 3. When you run, it was like a double curl for Cariban. And Cariban was 1 for 9 in the game going into that. He was over 5 on 3 when you draw that up, because it was great play. Cause it was like perfect. You had terrorist Reed being the screener, so they can't leave him. Like, it just, it worked perfectly. But, but is there any thought in your head like, this guy's ice cold. I don't know if we want to draw this play because you need the three there or is it like, no, this guy, it doesn't matter. He could shoot over a hundred. He's going to make this shot.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah. You know, listen, at that point, you know, if, maybe if, like, if Solo ball or, or Braylon Mullins were like, you know, we're having a great night shooting it from three, you know, you definitely would, you know, you would go in that direction. But because it was, you know, kind of like a team wide struggle kind of shooting it. You know, Demery, you know, Silas Demery, who was playing, he was playing hurt. Who. You know, I think a big thing for us going to Indianapolis is Silas Demery is going to be like the healthiest he's been in a long time for us. So I think that's going to bode well for us in Indy. But, you know, like, you know, ak, you know, caravan, you know, the guy just said, such a magical career. And you're looking at the situation and saying yourself, you know, like, I don't have a hot hand. I could go to, you know, we, you know, it feels like we need to run something to get a three. We had been kind of exhausting Reed with post touches and, and you know, he was pretty gassed at that point in the game. So it's like, you know, we ran something we call glow, you know, glow mid, you know, glow mid pin. And you know, we try to like misdirection it and get a little curl action off the top of the key to kind of get the screeners, man, helping on that. And, you know, and Taris was able to set a great, great screen to get AK a good look. But, you know, the guy's a two time national champion, Big East Hardware. Two guys gonna play in the NBA for 15 years. You know, he was the guy to go to at the moment.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah. In the moment. I think we were all yelling at the tv, saying, like, what? Why is so much time ticking off the clock right now? Now, did you. Was that in your thoughts at all? Like, try to get a shot off a little bit quicker so that next

[Coach Dan Hurley]

possession, you know, they just. They hadn't switched anything the whole game. And, you know, John did a great job coming out of the timeout, just switching everything. So. And we didn't. We didn't handle. Now, by this time of year, you've seen everything, so hopefully, you know, your team is ready to react to anything that we've seen. But they hadn't played it the whole game, so it kind of screwed up the initial action that we were trying to get. We were trying to get Demery downhill or a throwback for a three go back to caravan, but the switching screwed us up. But, you know, thankfully, Demery was able to, like, drive it, get to the free throw line. Obviously, you know, missing the first one, you know, the courage to then, like, make the second one, you know, like, because that building got loud and it got tense. Him making that second free throw. Yeah. Was huge.

[Max]

And.

[Big Cat]

And the other thing I noticed in. And you can tell me this wrong, if this was not a point of emphasis, but, like, when you're down that much and you come out in the second half, did you tell the guys, like, hey, we got to attack because we got to get them. We got to get to the line as early as possible because it does feel like when you have a deficit like that one of the ways to do it is you got to score points when the clock is stopped. And it did feel totally different in the second half where you guys just kept on trying to attack them. Attack them, to get those fouls, to get to the point where you're in a bonus early enough that it helps you.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, I mean, we really obviously just tried to throw it, you know, inside as much as we could. And, you know, they had no matchup for Taris. I mean, no one in this tournament's had a matchup for Tariffs Reed. I mean, they just read me to list the players, the company that season, through four games, production wise, it's like historic level, level stuff. But just we. It was a coaching mistake by me to start the game. I think I just. I think we built up their personnel too much to the point where we gave them too much respect and we were playing defense to defense. Defensively, they were a team that at times has turned the ball over and with some of the injury stuff, like, we needed to apply more pressure on their offensive end and just be more the aggressor in the game. A lot of times, you know, the officials end up giving calls to the team that is just more assertive, more aggressive and you know, we just started the game by just being way too, too respectful.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, yeah. You're always looking for, you know, you, you're always looking for wrinkles on top of wrinkles of things that you're running on offense. I mean, you're, you know, you do a quick study of everything that you've run, you know, for the last maybe five to eight games. You know, you throw some of that stuff out. You go back to earlier in the year. You run things that people haven't seen since maybe the non conference with These guys. We had the matchup with Illinois already, so we got to go back to that and try to figure out, like, anticipate the adjustments they're going to make and then, you know. Yeah, but definitely try to go into. Into Indy with. With some things that you could run to, you know, to get more threes that you can miss.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Big Cat]

It also is interesting because you guys played Illinois earlier this year, but it's like a totally different game because of their personnel. Your personnel. Do you take anything from that, or are you just like, hey, that was. That feels like that game was played in a different season at this point?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, no, I think you. You. You know, when you share the court with the, you know, with the team, you. You get a sense, you know, you. You get a sense of. Of their personnel and. And just what their best attributes are. I mean, just having scrimmaged Michigan State in October, you know, I thought it just. It was helpful for us to start the game just understanding what the level of physicality is when you play against a Spartan. I mean, you go up against a Spartan in your life, it's going to be a hard game, you know, so. And I got that Spartan helmet.

[Big Cat]

Mm. We did, by the way, we apologize because we had. We had Izzo on the show, and we did tip him off to you drinking piss before the game to get you pumped up. I hope you're okay with us giving away secrets like that.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I heard it. And. Because that's why he. He. I mean, that's probably the only time. You know, usually after a big win, I act like an ass. You know, like. And I think that's what really bothers people is, like, you get a big win, I'll turn to my. My wife, our crowd. Chest bump, you know, wave my arms. And, you know, some people don't like that today, but with that game, if you notice, I just, you know, I just kind of solemnly walk down the handshake line, and because of how much reverence and respect I got for coach, I, I. That's the worst I've felt after a great win because, you know, I just love that guy.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

It sounded like he had a lot of respect for you, and I think he believed us when we said that you drink piss. So he. He actually thinks you might be insane.

[Big Cat]

He might start drinking. Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah. I mean, he should. I saw a boxer that actually does. Actually helps you hydrate better.

[PFT Commenter]

I guess it's like recycling, like the, the water cycle taking place in your own body, just evaporation yeah, the whole thing. Have you. Did you. Did you think about bringing your brother in as another set of eyes? Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Just for the Duke game.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I mean, that. I mean, listen, that would have been awesome. You know, me and muzzling or nuzzling with the official. My mom cursing up a storm, my. My wife grabbing people on the bench, yanking them off the court, and then, you know, add Bob into the, into the fold there. Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is he. Was he proud of you or was he secretly pissed off at you?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

No, Bob's. Bob's riding with me. I mean, you know, listen, Duke. You know, the Duke and the Hurleys, obviously it's complicated for me now and. And obviously, you know, I'm not beloved there. I'm not sure that I ever, you know, ever was, but Duke changed my brother's life and, you know, but Bob is. I mean, Bob was a thousand with me and I'm sure running around going crazy when we want it.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Because I was saying between. Between how. How we saw that game end with the head nuzzling, which we now know was a sign of ultimate affection, and the Marquette game, like, you might need somebody that's a get back coach like we see in football, whose job is to just like, stand behind you, hand on your belt, like, I've got a hold of you. You're not going anywhere without me. And it feels like Bobby would probably be a pretty effective holdback coach.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah. And I, I've actually, you know, I'll pick a coach on staff. I actually. Mike Nardi, you know, former Villanova, you know, standout player and assistant coach. I actually said to him, you know, at halftime, because it was. There was a foul discrepancy in the first half of our game yesterday. And I said to him at halftime, you, like, watch me, you know, like, like, you know, watch me. I can ill afford to get to have an incident or get thrown out or have another viral situation. So just like stay in my ear, keep me calm. And for the most part, I actually was again until. Until that.

[Big Cat]

The nuzzling.

[PFT Commenter]

Have you ever seen the movie Coneheads?

[Big Cat]

Yes.

[PFT Commenter]

That's like the most intimate thing that they do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Is just press foreheads against each other. It's actually how they, how they procreate.

[Big Cat]

And I, I also got to give you credit, coach, like, you're such a psycho on the sideline. And we, you know, we. We actually. Some people don't like how much we defend you, but I love it. I think it's. It's great. The great part of the tournament and college sports that was such a crazy clip to watch that I actually thought it was AI for about 10. For about 30 minutes this morning, I was like, there's just no way he nuzzled.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

But it turns out you did.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And we will defend you.

[Hank]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Like, no matter what happens, just know that part of my take is a. A Pro Hurley podcast. Pro nuzzling pro nuzzling pro cuddling guy. Listen, guys aren't allowed to express their emotions anymore. Apparently, it's a bad thing in society. So why don't we. Why don't we back off and actually use this as a teachable moment to say more. More men should be in touch with their emotions. Like coach earlier.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yes.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

And have the level of control I have, you know, but you're sports guys. I mean, what do you want? You. What do you want? You want. You want. You want intensity. You want. You want emotion. You want, you know, competitive fire.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

You want your coaches and your players looking at the game or not looking at it like it's a battle, like it's war, like it's the zero sum game that it is. I mean, it's killer. Be killed this time of year or in every game in college basketball, you know, and, you know, people that have never played sports, you know, I get all these.

[Big Cat]

These.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

These folks that comment on sports, and you look at them and I size them up when I meet them in person. And it's like, you're not a sports guy. You didn't grow up playing. But, you know, this is what we've done in society, you know, like, the fact that we're not playing dodgeball in gym class and even there should be some type of standardized test.

[Big Cat]

I agree.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

What happened to the sat? Like, we've gotten so soft on young people that you don't even have to go through the pressure and stress of having to prepare for that test, take that test, have to get some type of a number or dodgeball and gym class or like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, it should be like the sat. There's. There's the. The math section, there's the English section, and then you got to stand there and we got to whip some wiffle balls at your head and see if you can hit a home run in

[PFT Commenter]

a backyard or if you get a bad score on. On the math section or the English section, have an opportunity to just, like, get mad and defend it.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And explain why your grade should be higher and why it's unfair that you got a bad grade. Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

You don't think that this is going to make people tougher and more resilient.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, this is life.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Greater fortitude. Be prepared to handle the things that come up in life. Become the ability to compete, you know, have to respond from failure, deal with pressure.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

And I, I saw your clip that was. That went kind of viral the other day, and I love the message of, like, the toughness and just, you know, it's a tough world out there, and that's part of your job is. Is making sure that your players are equipped for it. And I, I think that people, when we watch, we see a guy go crazy on the sideline, and you could tell me this, but, like, the amount of time you spend with your guys in the course of a season and we. This is a theme we had with, with Coach Izzo, where it's like, hey, they might yell at you, they might go crazy, but at the end of the day, all the hours that we spend together and the love that they have for you, that's. That's why you can do these moments. That's why you can have these moments where tough love can. Can be the. The message being sent.

[Geno Smith]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I mean, if you do this job right, you know, the, you know, you have the impact of somewhat like a dad has on their son. You know, like you. You have, you know, the impact of a great. An uncle or, or, you know, the, the impact of a coach on your life and the. What, what they could model for you, what they could instill in you. You know, the, you know, the discipline, the levels of accountability, you know, the ability to, you know, be a. Be a great teammate, be a, you know, learn how to communicate with people. You know, just being. Learn how to be a part of a team, being able to handle failure, success, just everything that you go through together and, you know, everything that you're trying to teach these guys because, like, you know, like, college is really the last place that these guys are going to learn anything. You know, like, once they get done with us and they go to the NBA or they go into the professional world, you know, like, the New York Knicks aren't teaching you anything to be an NBA player. You either are or you aren't. And when you go into the real world, it's. It's the same thing. You better be equipped to succeed and handle everything. And, yeah, I mean, you got two responsibilities here. You know, you got to coach like a maniac because you have to win here at a place like UConn, or else it's going to go bad. So, you know, that explains, you know, my approach on game night. Why I'm so maniacal, why I'm so relentless, why I coach every possession, why it's life or death to me, because that's what it is on game night. But then you also have that other aspect where you are. You literally become one of the most important person in a young person's life. And, you know, I don't take that responsibility lightly.

[PFT Commenter]

And you've got not only the Yukon men's team, the UConn women's team, also back in the Final Four. We, we said the stat yesterday. I think it's the sixth time in the past 22 years that UConn has had both teams in the Final Four, which is crazy. Have you had a chance to talk to Geno after the win?

[Geno Smith]

Always.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

You know, Gino is one of the first. First people. He's got a chat with our staff. You know, we're all close with Gino. You know, we, we run over there and watch practice. And I remember when I first got here, watch their practice, watched our practice. Pretty embarrassing where we were at compared to them. And they were taller, I think even than us too, which was surprising. But. Yeah, surprising. But the, yeah, he's, you know, he's always the first one in there. Gino is the man. Gino is super supportive. Our, Our. Our teams are like our besties. They, they share the training room, they spend a lot of time together. I don't know if the relationship here has always been as. As good as it is between the men's and women's team, but. But it is now.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. It sounds like. I mean, I know that it used to be hyper competitive, which is probably good for both teams, but now it's like more collaborative, it sounds like, which continues to be a good thing and pretty incredible run. And then the other thing was caravan, so. Caravan. I don't know if you know this, but he has the opportunity to do something that has not been done since the 1970s. Win three championships while in college, I think. Was it the two Larry's. The two Larry's at UCLA. The twin Larry's did it in 1973. Have you talked to him about that? Because it's a pretty special thing that he's, you know, he came back after the, the two titles and he's had his share of ups and downs over the course of the last couple of years, but he finds himself yet again in the position to do that.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, I mean, we talked about it when he was going through the, you know, the pre draft thing, you know, and he was really on the fence. And, you know, because he was. He was slated to go somewhere from 25 to 35 in the draft. So he was kind of in a. In a tough, tough spot. Obviously, nil helps, especially if you could make kind of what you would make if you went in, if you entered the draft now so it doesn't become this financial thing. And it was like, I think he looked around at the roster that we put together and what we envisioned and said, I think I got a chance to do it, but. So, yeah, so I want to come back and go and try and do something that's never been done. Do historical things. He's come such a long way, guys. If you just saw him just as a freshman, just kind of how he presented physically, personality wise, you would never think he'd get to where he is right now. The way he presented was. It made me think that game night, you know, his socks would be yellow. You know, like his socks would turn yellow.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Down his leg you get.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

He didn't have any swag. Now he's got the beard, he's got the fade. You know, a good looking guy, like the gut, but like freshman year was like eyebrows bushy, you know, his hair, you know, like pale, you know, like not a. Got a good haircut. He's come a long way.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. All right, we got a couple last questions. One was, did you know it was in when Braylon Mullins released it?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I had a. So you say you're lying. I've been saying for about a week as the tournament was starting. I've never won on a buzzer beater. I'm just saying it just randomly to different people. Probably about eight or ten different people. But when the ball, when they turned it over, I saw Alex drove to him and I saw. I was tracking and I had a feeling.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, it was the perfect shot. Yeah. And then my last question. Roback question. Rho, B, A, C, K.com promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, pants, everything. Roback.com. you owe me a pair of pants because I came in my pants after the shot. But the real question is, what happened to your pants? You had, you had a towel around your waist when you went into the locker room, did you, did you also. Okay.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

No, I did not.

[Big Cat]

What happened to your pants?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I just kept them in the coach's locker room. So then when they were done with the water celebration, I was able to. Then Put on my sweaty underwear. My swampy dragons. It's because it's not like they were completely dry. They had just had avoided the water shower.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah. Because that's your lucky underwear.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah. So the lucky dragon. So when I actually, I went back in, I put the socks on that were sweaty, the underwear that was sweaty, and then the protected blue suit that again is. It's 17 and 1 right now. Or 18 and 1. That suit.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Socks suit, socks. Underwear and shoes are. They're literally 18 and 1. I think in the tournament.

[Big Cat]

It's a. Yeah, it's. It's 18 and 1. And the shoes, too.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

The shoes have like no soul left. Like the shoes are. There's nothing basically left on the bottom of them like a ballet slipper.

[PFT Commenter]

Do you do a. The same pre game meal too?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah. And what screwed me up a little bit was good. Was let, you know, Friday Lent, no meat.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

You know, so that kind of dealing with God, dealing with the spiritual side, what, you know, if. So if I had a, a pork chop, you know, on a Saturday and we won and you know, the night before a game I can't have what I was normally having. Lent was kind of, you know, God over my superstitions.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. And then this, this weekend. Do you have a place picked out for mass on Sunday?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Well, yeah, I mean, I've got to go on on Easter, so we'll find a place there. My wife went to a Palm Sunday service. We couldn't get there because it was our shoot around time, but she came home and gave me the lucky palm, which I think another person in the church gave her after mass and said, this is going to be like your lucky palm. She made it into a cross and gave it to me.

[Big Cat]

That's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's pretty special.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that is.

[PFT Commenter]

You got to pick out.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Pick out a good church for Easter Sunday. Yeah, that's going to be important.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah, I gotta find one. They got some good ones in Indianapolis.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Well, coach, you're the best. We love having you on. And best of luck in Indianapolis. If things go well, we'll, we'll. We'll have you back on in a week and a half. And it's just always fun to watch you make sports fun. So we appreciate it so much and thank you. Thank you for beating Duke. I appreciate it. It was. I. I barely slept last night. I watched every highlight a thousand times. So I appreciate it.

[PFT Commenter]

It was a good moment for America.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

You know, like we've been, we've been at each other's throats. Everybody hates each other. There's a lot of, you know, constant bickering. But it was great to see the nation unite around one thing we can all believe in.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's.

[PFT Commenter]

That's Duke losing in the NCAA tournament. And it was the best possible way.

[Big Cat]

It was so good.

[PFT Commenter]

And to have you be the guy that did it. Yeah, it was. It was pretty perfect. So thank you.

[Big Cat]

If you need any podcast recommendations, I. I listened to all the Duke fan podcasts this morning, so I have them all.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

I must have put people in a tough spot, because obviously a lot of people want to root against Duke because of their, you know, because of what they've been able to do. But then you also have the people that hate you.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, me.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

So it's just that two worlds collided yesterday, and look what happened for us.

[PFT Commenter]

It was great. And there was. Oh, man.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Cinema, theater.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Did you see the. The Duke student broadcast where they tried to get a technical foul called on your bench for running onto the court?

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Or the people that were calling for a technical foul on me? Like somebody like.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, those are people. Never seen a nuzzle before. Come on, grow up. Oh. All right, coach. Best of luck.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

All right, boys.

[Hank]

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[Big Cat]

Okay, who's going first?

[Max]

I think we're all going at the same time.

[Big Cat]

We're all going at the same time. I love that. All right, why don't you tell us to take the plastic off?

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

I know, but it's hard to take the plastic off.

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

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[Max]

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[Big Cat]

I got a bunch of baseball cards for my son. He's getting into baseball cards.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

This is the hardest thing to ever to open. Why did you do this?

[Hank]

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[PFT Commenter]

Custom hats?

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah.

[Hank]

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[Coach Dan Hurley]

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[PFT Commenter]

Okay, I got my pack open.

[Big Cat]

I'm not even close.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Max]

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[PFT Commenter]

All right. Can I. Can I go ahead and open, Max?

[Max]

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[PFT Commenter]

All right. All right. Pft's cracking. So am I gonna announce all the cards I'm pulling?

[Big Cat]

Here, I got mine.

[PFT Commenter]

Okay.

[Big Cat]

I got. Here, you want a pen?

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

These are sick cards.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Big Cat]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

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[Max]

I don't think we have to do stats for.

[Big Cat]

For each guy, but this is disrespectful.

[Max]

Hank was disrespectful.

[PFT Commenter]

I got Joel. How many games did you play?

[Max]

This is football.

[PFT Commenter]

I got an autograph. Edan Cooper. O autograph. Chris Braswell. So camera Chris Braswell.

[Big Cat]

I'm. Can I just go through them? Just tell you if I have Williams.

[Hank]

Oh, I got Charles Tillman, big hat.

[Big Cat]

Oh, Brian Westbrook there. That's big. Oh, Peanut.

[Zach]

Pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

Tavandre Sweat.

[Big Cat]

Austin Reed.

[PFT Commenter]

Bob Greasy.

[Big Cat]

Brock Bowers. Nice.

[Hank]

I also got Bob Griesy. I got Tebow. Oh, I got Ty Law.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you got Calvin Hill.

[Max]

That's cool.

[Big Cat]

Barry Sanders. That's a sick one.

[Hank]

I got an auto Xavier Worthy.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Zach]

Got a Chris Johnson. 3 of 50.

[PFT Commenter]

Nice.

[Big Cat]

Bang. You want this Westbrook?

[PFT Commenter]

I got a Fred Taylor.

[Big Cat]

Whoa.

[Max]

I got an Ozzy Newsom. 1 of 5 Auto

[Big Cat]

Tops Online redemption.

[Max]

Ozzy Newsom. Sam Hartman.

[PFT Commenter]

Sam Hartman.

[Big Cat]

Oh, wait.

[PFT Commenter]

It's his birthday.

[Big Cat]

Wait, what is this? This says I have to redeem online, but I. You are due to receive a chrome rookie autograph Variation green geometric parallel of Jaden Daniels.

[PFT Commenter]

No. Is that April Fools?

[Big Cat]

No.

[Hank]

Are you serious?

[Big Cat]

I swear.

[PFT Commenter]

You got Jane Daniels?

[Big Cat]

I think so.

[PFT Commenter]

That's awesome. Are you giving that to me?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, I'm giving that to you.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, thank you, Big cat.

[Big Cat]

What?

[Hank]

I would have liked that.

[Big Cat]

No, Hank.

[PFT Commenter]

You want it? You know my Jane Daniels car?

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Thank me. Why would you take his Jaden Daniels card?

[Hank]

I'll give it to you.

[PFT Commenter]

Thanks, Hank.

[Hank]

You're welcome.

[PFT Commenter]

That means a lot. I can't believe Hank gave me his autograph. Jane Daniels.

[Hank]

I did not get a Drake. May. I got It. I got Xavier Worthy.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

[PFT Commenter]

It's very cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Thanks, Big cat.

[Max]

Very cool.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Download whatnot today and get free shipping on your first order. That's w h a t. N o t. Download now to start browsing deal and get involved with whatnot. Okay, Hank. Guys on chicks Time.

[Hank]

Guys on chicks. Momento. Gays on cheeks. Awl here. Actually, should I. I don't know if I should read this one.

[Big Cat]

Oh, please.

[Hank]

Someone DM'd it to me. It made me laugh. I don't know if it's true or not, so if it's not true, I apologize. Nine time Awl docs with big out in the yak. My girlfriend just informed me that she was finger blasted by Billy Strings before he was famous. Rattled.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

That's awesome.

[Hank]

Made me laugh.

[PFT Commenter]

I mean, good for.

[Hank]

Good for her. Lucky girl.

[PFT Commenter]

There's one guy, he does have amazing. Yeah, he's a finger picker. That's what he does.

[Big Cat]

Good for. Just don't do it.

[PFT Commenter]

The man knows sex. Don't.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, don't try to do anything else.

[PFT Commenter]

You know? Also, how does that cover.

[Hank]

How does it get brought up?

[PFT Commenter]

Well.

[Hank]

Well, maybe he was like, I like Billy Strings. And she's like, tough.

[Big Cat]

Imagine if he was. Imagine if he was watching Billy Strings in his Z in his living room and it was like, zoomed in on him just ripping a song. She's like, oh, I know those fingers.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I'd recognize those anywhere. He's probably like, I really like you and that G string. And she's like, you know who else is good at playing with G strings?

[Hank]

Yeah.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Awl heroes. A lot of platonic guy friends. When guys are talking.

[PFT Commenter]

Was that. Was that a sound of sympathy for the platonic guy friends?

[Big Cat]

No.

[PFT Commenter]

Or just like a chick that has guy friends.

[Hank]

Just probably false when guys are talking with their platonic girlfriends. Why? This is. Why must you always make sexual innuendos when the topic is not sexual, nor would there ever be anything sexual between us? Just think in your head so you don't have to end up screenshot. The girls group with a gross emoji.

[Big Cat]

You're not. They're not platonic.

[Hank]

And you're also, like, welcome to having guy friends.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Like that. You're not a real girl with guy friends. I'm sorry.

[Big Cat]

But also, if they're making a bunch of sexual innuendos, they probably want to bang.

[Hank]

And it's also. That's what guys do.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, that's true.

[PFT Commenter]

They're testing the waters.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And they're around you and they're like, hey, maybe if she laughs at my joke about penises, that means that she wants to see mine.

[Big Cat]

Guys talk like this. That's how we talk. Right, Zach?

[Zach]

Some guys talking.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

Go. Guys chatting.

[Hank]

Speaking of guys. They're speaking of Zach. Apologies. Hey, guys, He's a guy I find myself being deeply attracted to.

[Big Cat]

Zach. Yeah.

[Hank]

How can I fix this?

[PFT Commenter]

Well, first of all, take a number.

[Big Cat]

Yep.

[PFT Commenter]

And get in line.

[Big Cat]

How can you fix this? You can't until you've had them. You need to have them.

[PFT Commenter]

You're just gonna be thinking about them until you do.

[Big Cat]

Zach, what are we doing? We getting. Come on, let's get out there. Like you're. You're. You're a good looking dude.

[Zach]

That's very nice. You say big guy. I appreciate that. Yeah, same to you. Is a handsome pod.

[Big Cat]

No, but let's get out there. We got a prospects.

[Zach]

Get out there. I'm not really. I'm not. Prospect list. I'd say I'm. I'm out there.

[Big Cat]

Okay, good.

[Zach]

All right.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[Max]

You know.

[Big Cat]

You know, if you're happy, I'm happy. I don't care.

[PFT Commenter]

Zach, you know how we discussed maybe getting you. Getting you out of the apartment for like 30. 30 minutes a week?

[Zach]

You only double down. I go an hour.

[PFT Commenter]

I'd like to see you slow down. Let's not. Let's not get crazy. Maybe. What about one date a month?

[Big Cat]

Month.

[Zach]

One. One date.

[Big Cat]

Calendar month for the summertime.

[Zach]

I could do that for you guys.

[PFT Commenter]

Starting maybe starting April.

[Zach]

I'd love to make new friends. I can do that.

[Geno Smith]

Okay.

[PFT Commenter]

One date a month.

[Big Cat]

By the way, the friends. We gotta all find friends. Remember that.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, I know. I'm very excited. I've had a lot of people reaching out.

[Big Cat]

No, that.

[PFT Commenter]

I know, I know. Yeah, I know, but I can't. I can't take someone that's like cold calling me as a friend. It has to be a natural, organic friendship.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. The whole point is it has to be a friend that does not listen to the podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Big Cat]

I have an eye. So I have my eyes on one of them. One. A friend. I'm. I'm just nervous about broaching the subject.

[PFT Commenter]

Does he. Does he know that you're into him? No, it's like a secret crush.

[Hank]

It's easy for me.

[Big Cat]

It's a guy at the gas station around the corner and I just. I. I want to just be like, hey, dude, can we be friends?

[PFT Commenter]

Wait, that works at the gas station?

[Big Cat]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I Don't think he speaks English, but we'll get through that.

[PFT Commenter]

I'll tell you what, driving the El Camino in the summer is. It's very easy to meet old dads. Yeah. Like, they're gonna be coming up to me.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. You'll get a friend.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah.

[Hank]

Hey, boys. Love the show. I've been a listener for seven years. You guys are the best. My husband travels for work and only stays at hotels with hot tubs. He's a big hot tub guy. He opted out of going into a hot tub that already had three dudes in it. My question for you guys is, how many guys is too many guys in the hot tub? Does it make a difference if you're friends, family, or what's. What if it's a stranger situation? Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks. Go, Pats.

[Big Cat]

Friends unlimited. Everyone get in the tub.

[Hank]

Depends how big the hot tub is.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, but you could just see if you. If you're, like, on a passion. But everyone get in the tub. It. If you're in one of those tubs. If you're in, like, a vacation where you walk by the tub, I think you just needed a specific space that you can sit. Like, you feel it out.

[PFT Commenter]

And I also think three might be too many to join. If it's two guys and they know each other, then you can join. If it's three guys even, and they're all friends having conversation, you can slink in as, like, the random fourth across the way from. But if there's, like, three already random guys that are in there sitting in silence, that, to me, feels like, just keep walking. I don't want to be the fourth random guy.

[Big Cat]

Or if you're, like, at the Four Seasons in LA and there's a couple trying to enjoy, like, a really nice romantic ignite, and it's. It's you. It's me, Pft, and Hank. You get in, and then you have a big, loud argument and try to dunk each other. It did happen.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. You start talking about what type of sporting equipment you would want in your house if you had all the money in the world.

[Big Cat]

We give them a free podcast.

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah. Now you can also talk about Joel Embiid and. And drive them out of the hot tub.

[Big Cat]

Can't make the club in the tub.

[PFT Commenter]

Well, Joel Embiid's probably the other guy that's in the tub.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Getting healthy.

[Big Cat]

Okay.

[Hank]

All right,

[Coach Dan Hurley]

last one.

[Hank]

What's up, big cat? Pft and southpaw Hank with the masters right around the corner. I've had this Thought for a while now and just had to get it to you guys.

[Big Cat]

Let's go.

[Hank]

Every golf course should have the 18th hole be a short par five for the casual shitty golfer. It gives them the life and hope that they enjoyed the round if they can make it on and two and have an eagle birdie chance. So they keep going, going out to play for the pro tour. It just adds to the drama of a final group on Sunday that you can be two shots back at the leader and have a chance to eagle. I love this to hear your guys thoughts.

[PFT Commenter]

It's a very, very good idea.

[Big Cat]

Incredible idea.

[PFT Commenter]

When I design a golf course, it's

[Big Cat]

going to have this like a 225 yard par 5.

[PFT Commenter]

It would be incredible to have short.

[Big Cat]

Why? That's the whole point.

[PFT Commenter]

But you know what?

[Hank]

Short. It's like 400 yards.

[PFT Commenter]

No, here's the thing. 225 in my entire career playing golf, which has been about.

[Hank]

That was a super short.

[PFT Commenter]

It's been about two years playing golf. Every single time I've asked, is this a par four?

[Big Cat]

What was that?

[PFT Commenter]

The other person has years. Two years. Like, like two and a half years. Yeah, pretty much was.

[Big Cat]

What's the issue here?

[Hank]

Sorry, continue.

[Big Cat]

He's been playing for longer or less?

[PFT Commenter]

He thinks I've been playing for longer. Seriously, Two and a half years.

[Big Cat]

As a pro. Two. And as a pro, only less than a year.

[Hank]

Yeah, true.

[Big Cat]

Yeah, true.

[PFT Commenter]

But you know what I'm saying, Hank, how many times have I asked you, is this a par 4?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

And the answer is always, yes, it is. I'm always hoping that's a par 5. I've never once been right asking is this a par 4 or par 5. I would like very much for that last hole to be the one that I'm right at. Like, I love this 400, 430 yard par four. Everybody's on and two for the most part.

[Big Cat]

Or what about like a 170 yard par four?

[PFT Commenter]

Yeah, that would work too. That would work too.

[Big Cat]

Yeah.

[PFT Commenter]

Everyone drives the green.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys.

[PFT Commenter]

Numbers 70, 56, 21, the three. Let me go.

[Big Cat]

Four.

[Max]

I got injured on the corner of that 23.

[Big Cat]

Oh, you got injured Kind of like Joel and B.

[Max]

69. Yeah, he, Jo and B does get injured. A lot of guys.

[Big Cat]

Oh, that's why they made the rule. Jacob. Oh, Jacob.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

What?

[PFT Commenter]

Jacob, say 67. Careful, Jacob.

[Big Cat]

Jacob. 23. That's it.

[Coach Dan Hurley]

Oh, my God.

[Big Cat]

81. 81. Anyone? Anyone?

[Acorns Advertiser]

Anyone?

[Big Cat]

81.

[Max]

Anyone say 81?

[PFT Commenter]

Let's do one more.

[Big Cat]

Somebody picked 81 last time.

[Max]

Did someone pick 81 last time?

[PFT Commenter]

No.

[Big Cat]

All right, 23.

[PFT Commenter]

Same numbers.

[Big Cat]

Last one.

[PFT Commenter]

Three.

[Big Cat]

85. 85. 85.

[PFT Commenter]

Love you guys. Happy birthday to Hank's brother.

[Big Cat]

Love that.

[PFT Commenter]

Also, happy birthday to Sean Taylor, the best football player. My favorite football player of all time in Hank's brother. Kind of sad that I wish Hank's brother happy birthday before he did, but that's kind of how it goes.

[Hank]

I asked you to wish my birthday happy birthday.

[PFT Commenter]

No, I actually had him on my list already.

[Hank]

Oh, nice.

[Big Cat]

Yeah. Hi. Birthday. Hannah Montoya and Susan Boyle.