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Week 17, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders In The Playoffs, Joe Burrow MVP? Plus Playoff Seedings
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Big Cat
Hey Pardon My Take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have week 17 in the NFL. We're going to start with fastest two minutes. We got some big time playoff implications going on. We've got a lot of the seeds set. We also have some fun games are going to be set up for week 18. Some things still at stake. We're going to talk a little who's Back. We're also maybe do a little college football because we have the quarterfinals coming up in a couple days and it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. From monster slams to draining threes at the buzzer, watching our favorite NBA players is the gift that keeps on giving. And playing pick six from DraftKings, an official partner of the NBA, is a way to take a shot even more Cash prizes It's super simple to get started. Select two or more players and choose if they'll have more or less of a stat like points, rebounds, three pointers and more. Track your picks for a shot at huge cash prizes. That's all there is to it. Pick six is available in most states including California, Texas, Georgia, Missouri and more. And speaking of gifts for all first time pick six players, check this out. New customers play $5 get 50 in pick six credits the fun of the NBA season continues with the simplest way to play for a little for a shot to win big. Pick six from DraftKings, download the DraftKings pick six app now. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to play $5 get 50 in pick six credits. Happy holidays from DraftKings pick six the crown is your gambling problem. Call 1-800- gambler, help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org in Connecticut. Must be 18 and over. Age and eligibility restrictions vary by jurisdiction. Pick six not available everywhere, including New York and Ontario. Void where prohibited. One bonus awarded as non withdrawable Pick 6 credits that expire in 30 days Limited time offer See terms@pick6.draftkings.com promos okay, let's go.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah.
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Big Cat
Part of My Take welcome to Part of My take presented by DraftKings. The fun of the NBA season continues with the simplest way to play for a little for a shot to win big. Pick 6 from DraftKings Download the DraftKings Pick 6 app now. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to play $5 to get 50 in Pick 6 credits Happy Holidays from DraftKings Pick 6 the crown is yours. Today is Monday, December 30th Week 1617 Week 17 we're on. We're on Zoom Teach.
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Hank
We're talking on the computer. Let's not pull a Jeffrey Tubin.
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Big Cat
We start in Cincinnati in a game with huge playoff implications as Bo Sticks prove that the Broncos are for real and isn't a grand illusion as he let the ball sail away Sail away to Marvin Yankee hat with no Brims Jr. Who who no cap ran up the bill scoring two touchdowns, but it was Joe Spurrow that came out the victor, Duncan on the defense injecting t shot Higgins who said yeah, we may have been gals but now we are men and even with the win, there were questionable decisions down the stretch. Begging the question, will Cincy want to transition and remove Sack Taylor? Bengals keep their playoff hopes alive 30, Broncos 24.
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Hank
We go down to SoFi Stadium where it's Saturday Night Live with Kyler Bill Murray and it used to be a lot better with Aaron Norm McDonald Trey McBride's main finally caught the bouquet and got out of the friend zone and into the end zone, but Puka make the cooled and afraid as he pulled their pants down. Marvin William Henry Harrison hasn't had as sick of an inaugural season as you think he would since he can't catch a cold the way his QB is coughing it up. And Chad Thousand Ryland dressing is usually pretty solid but dipped around and missed an extra point leading to a situation where the Cards are driving but needed a touchdown and a callo from the other side. Big Cat's pinky bat is still alive. I'll tell you I'm sorry for picking you off, but Kyler threw the ball in to McBride's mouth. Williamson chills the game and keeps the Rams in the playoffs to Sunday in.
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Big Cat
The Meadowlands where the winless at home Giants were taking on the colts without their AR15. But they did have Joe Tick Flacco who went over the X's and O's in prep all week as he looked like Prince Albert the way he was tossing balls to wide receiver Phallic Pierce finding a hole in the D time and time again. Typically super bad Giants quarterback Drew Cock must have looked at his notes, but unlike the movie, he never ended up getting the booze from the Giants faithful. My Greek Neighbors was the hero of the day as his skills didn't PETA out as he had the as he had all of the targets kebabbing and weaving through the Colts defense on the way to the victory. The G Men The G men 45, Colts 33.
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Hank
We go down to Tampon Bay where it's that time of the young as Bryce is back in the flow and the Carolina crampers are looking to stop the bleeding on a bad season as I spotted the Bucks in early TD and then a touching tribute to my dear friend Jimmy Carter. Dave Panama Canales turned it over in a contest some called it's must lose and they got boat raced. Jimmy was a great man who came from poverty and the pun is blocked and the pun is blocked.
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Big Cat
Lmao.
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Hank
Every day I'm rustling. Every day I'm rustling. Return it for a score. The Bucks win in a blowout 48:14.
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Big Cat
In the first time in fastest two minutes history. We go to someone who's actually at the game. Max who is at Philly reporting live.
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PFT Commenter
From Philadelphia where two K'quan Barkley has officially etched his name into the prestigious 2000 Yard Cup. Kenny Chiklitz redeemed him redeemed his performance from last week with two early touchdowns and a 247 halftime lead. Not a big deal after an unfortunate injury. Tanner McKeegan Bradley looked like the people's quarterback while throwing his first touchdown pass of the year. But then AJ what can Brown do for you? Express ship the Memorial ball into the stands after we after we all thought the ball was gone, AJ went to Big Dom Corleone and said someday I will call upon you to do a service for me. And that day is today. As Big Don was able to retrieve the ball for ayyjayy to give them a kick. Shout out Big dom. Eagles win 41 Cowboy 7.
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Big Cat
Then now to the saddest game of the day. Western New York. The Bills and Jets memes was there.
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Memes
We head up to Buffalo where Josh Allen was singing that's Amare as he finds him in the end zone for for a 30 yard pass. The Bills weren't done as Keon I'm a cold man went up over the Jet secondary to possibly seal the MVP for Allen. To add insult to injury, the jets let Tyrell shaving Private Ryan added a 69 yard touchdown in garbage time. As for the Jets, Aaron Rodgers looked like he was playing dodgeball out there, throwing the ball to the other team and getting unnecessary roughness penalties. He commented after the game necessary. Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine?
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PFT Commenter
No, but I like I do it.
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Memes
Anyway because it's sterile and I like the taste. No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.
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Big Cat
Thanks Memes down to Jacksonville where yes people actually paid to attend this game. Drug Peterson needed a win in this battle between Crack Jones and Free Basin Rudolph but none of the but none of this game rocked Biden more time. Peterson won't be a job hunter quite yet. Calvin Coolidge, Ridley and Brian Thomas Jefferson had a tasteful homage to the late Jimmy Carter as neither went over 100 and much like our nation's capital, the refs need to lower the flags and let this game end. Jaguars 20, Titans 13 we go up.
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Hank
To Minneapolis where the Minnesota Vikings of Leon's sacks were on fire and they could really use Sam Buddy Darnold to continue his great season. Jordan I love sprinkles. Yes it's true. Yes I do was anything but a cupcake as the Vikings took a page out of Gordon Hayward's playbook and kept looking to Addison Josh Very cool. Jacobs had a nice score of Gummy while Malik Heath Ledger almost made it a dark night for the Vikings until just in the nick of time. Jefferson help Minnesota take the top seed like a really tall squirrel. Vikings 27, Packers 25.
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Max
Come on, come on. This team is hesitating. Brooke Johnson please look up his Madden raidens.
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Big Cat
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Max
Fight down 10. And let's just start off by saying that Jamis Winston or excuse me, Jaden Daniels threw an interception in the first half. I know that Max wanted to See that also, Max, have you noticed that we start every NFL Sunday recap by singing the Eagles? Isn't that a little bit of a bias towards Philadelphia about this podcast, baby.
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Big Cat
There'S Cowboys fans out there. That was. You came out hot right there. Max hasn't said anything, but, you know, he's thinking it.
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Max
He's thinking it. No, I'm. I'm. I'm on edge because we're down 177 and we don't look good. So I'm taking it out of Max. I apologize, Max.
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Big Cat
So we will update because this game actually has a ton of implications, not only for the Commanders, but also for the Seahawks and the Rams. The. The. The Seahawks are hoping the Falcons win, so they have a shot in week 18. I guess it has some implications for my pinky as well, but week 17 in the books. And we will recap this game. We also should say this is our first podcast that we've ever done without Jimmy Carter alive, so. RIP Jimmy Carter silence. Do you think it was the vax that got him?
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Max
I don't know. I think it was probably watching the Titans. Jaguars.
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Big Cat
I was actually thinking about that. Imagine, like, this early slate. There was actually some fun games out of nowhere. Like, the Giants game was ridiculous. Out of nowhere. But to have that be your last, you know, he died. I think he died exactly at 3:40pm so he might not have even seen the Giants win a home game this year. But to have that be your last NFL Sunday, that's brutal. Like, I feel bad for Jimmy. He went to. He actually went too young because he should have made it to the Super Bowl.
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Max
Yeah, that would have been nice. I was addicted to actually reading the tributes from all the various different, like, pop culture websites. So, like, if you. If you ran an account that had, like, a special logo next to it on Twitter, there was a mandate that you had to post something. So I saw. I saw tributes from Trap, Ratchet, tv, film discussion, pop crave. Here's my favorite Jimmy Carter stat. He outlived one of his obituary writers.
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Big Cat
I saw that.
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Max
How amazing is that? They wrote the obituary, I think, in 2017, and he just kept going. As. As our good friend Big T put it, like, jimmy just needed to stop building houses.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
So they put him in hospice when he was still working on houses, and he just got down off the roof and was like, oh, maybe I just should have retired a long time ago and stopped, you know, climbing up 20ft in the air every day and nailing ceiling tiles down in the hot sun.
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Big Cat
He. There's also a chance he might not be dead because he was famously just not waking up some days. So, like, if tomorrow they're like, hey, our bad. Jimmy Carter actually still alive, I wouldn't be totally shocked.
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Max
No, it could happen. It could happen. Another great stat about Jimmy. This is from Jeremy Frank. He said that Babe Ruth hit more home runs in Jimmy Carter's lifetime than any currently active player. Right now, Stanton is in the lead with 429.
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Big Cat
Jimmy Carter saw. Famously saw Babe Ruth and Hawk Tua.
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Max
Yeah, there's really nothing that we can say about the man that hasn't already been covered by Mike Francesa earlier when he was just like, jimmy caught a dead. Not a great president.
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Big Cat
Oh, it's cool, though, when someone dies when they're 100 because it's just free reign to make jokes. Like, 100 is way too old. Like, dude, that's just. It was way too way long past your expiration. Dude. Yeah, you went to, like, four overtimes in Buffalo Wild Wings.
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Max
You don't really want to be a hundred years old.
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Big Cat
No.
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Max
Nobody. Nobody wants to be 100. All your friends are gone. You don't understand anything. I guess you get some sweet discounts on early dinners, though, which is pretty good. But besides that, there's nothing. Not a whole lot going on.
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Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah.
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Max
Rip Jimmy.
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Big Cat
RIP Jimmy.
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Max
He was a real one.
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Big Cat
Yeah. And he was an awl. So one less listen for this episode. So someone please step up and listen twice for Jimmy. All right, let's get into games. So just to set the stage, Hank is living his Ben Mintz life right now. He's traveling across country to New Orleans to see his favorite band on New Year's, and he's got, like, flight issues. And then he just texted us and said that his bag is being shipped to Germany. So I don't know when he'll join us. When he does, he will have to do his boomer in monotone and also answer some questions about the Patriots. But let's start with that game. Chargers 40, Patriots 7.
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Max
Just real quick, Jimmy Carter got shipped to Germany, and he still did his job.
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Big Cat
That's true. That's true. Well, he didn't do his job today listening to this podcast.
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Max
That's true.
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Big Cat
Yeah. Chargers 40, Patriots 7. The Los Angeles Chargers are in the playoffs. Insane turnaround by Jim Harbaugh, the king of turnarounds. These are the. These are Jim Harbaugh. So his last three jobs, he took over the. The San Francisco 49ers in 2011, the year before he took him over. They were 6 and 10, missed the playoffs. They went 13 and 3, lost in the NFC championship game in 2015. He took over Michigan the year before. Brady Hoke, who just didn't wear a headset on the sideline, looked like the dumbest piece of ever. Michigan went 5 and 7. He took over the team. They went 10 and 3. This year he takes over the Chargers, who were a dumpster fire. Remember when the Chargers lost last year by like 70 to the Raiders?
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Max
Yeah.
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Big Cat
Chargers were 5 and 12 last year. They're 10 and 6 this year. They like got rid of a bunch of their really good players. Jim Harbaugh brings the culture, he brings a change. And all of this is to be said without even noting his like most insane turnaround, which took two years, but Stanford football, that he made like a real program in two years time. So he, that that's what he does. And the Chargers are back in the playoffs and they're a functional team. And I know it makes Hank so mad that the Chargers, if they can win next week and the Steelers lose, could be playing the Texans and. Which is a very winnable game for this Chargers team.
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Max
Yeah. So I, I was thinking about Jim Harbaugh and his turnarounds, and the thought occurred to me that, that some NFL coaches might not really. You know, they say they care about winning and they want to win, but Jim Harbaugh needs to win. He has to win. If he doesn't win, then he might as well be dead. Like, that's Jim Harbaugh's reason for waking up in the morning is to like win. Every single encounter that he has, he's addicted. He's. Some people say, like, I'm addicted to winning. He's actually addicted to winning. Yeah, if you took winning away from him, he would, he would go through withdrawals. You need to lock him in a padded cell.
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Big Cat
And you remember when we were with him for training camp and he kind of gave us that look where we're like, oh, how are you guys going to be this year? And he's like, kind of like, hey, you know, we're going through some things. We're changing over the roster. There's a lot of young players that have to. But he, he like gave that look like, I wouldn't bet against Jim Harbaugh. Like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do something here. And they did in like Lab McConkey, outside of Malik Neighbors, who we'll get to, and Brian Thomas, he. Lab McConkey was the eighth receiver picked in the draft. He's the third best receiver so far from that draft. He was insane. He went. He's top 15 in receptions, yards, and touchdowns in the whole league, not just rookies. And it's like everything J.K. dobbins got healthy. It feels like the Chargers, like, I don't. They're not going to win the super bowl, but they could make some noise.
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Max
Because I feel like we've been sentenced to a lifetime of every time lad McConkey has a good game. Just getting incessant texts from Jerry O'Connell, just being like, why. Why didn't he do that in week 16?
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
What was this in week 16? Just a heads up, guys. I drafted him in week 16. Sorry. Yeah, we're just gonna be like, updated on his. Everything with his life via those texts. But yeah, the, the Chargers look, look good. They dominated the Patriots. Wasn't really close. Got a little stone smart action going on. And J.K. dobbins is back. That's huge.
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Big Cat
Massive.
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Max
So, yeah, I mean, depending on. On the way the, the postseason schedule shakes out, they might. They might win a game. Who knows? I wouldn't.
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Big Cat
If they play the Texans. Yeah, they're. They're playing better football than the Texans right now. I don't know, playing the Ravens, that would be very difficult because the Ravens look unstoppable at this, you know, in December. But yeah, I mean, if they play the Texans and then, you know, if they, if, if they, if it breaks out and they play the Texans and then they go, maybe play the Chiefs. Hard to beat a team three times.
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Max
That's true.
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Big Cat
They're gonna lose the Chiefs. But it's still. I'll say all week it's hard to beat a team three times and then the Chiefs will make it look really easy.
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Max
It's one of my favorite things to say. I don't think that it's true, actually. No, let's not look it up.
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Big Cat
No, I think we did look it up and we. It was proven not to be true.
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Max
Yeah, I don't want to know if it's not true, but it's. It's good to say. I mean, there's a lot of tape out there for harbor to study now. I don't know. Weirder things have happened, but I, I guess if he goes up against his brother, then that adds up a whole new dynamic to it. Like the parents will probably be at that game and he'll need to win that even more. You never know.
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Big Cat
You never know.
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Max
Obviously, the Ravens are a much better team than The Chargers. But yeah, great, great turnaround. And it's crazy because with the Chargers, you know exactly what they need to add this offseason. Like, it's very clear that, you know, this was, this was not going to be a one year turnaround, but getting to the playoffs in year one. That's why whenever anybody says it'll take you five years to fully rebuild a football team full of shit, that's somebody that wants to give themselves a five year Runway to suck ass.
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Big Cat
Well, it also like this Chargers turnaround, if you want to call it that, because it's there. They did get rid of a lot of players and they've, they've had to like, get young. But it was all, I mean, it was Justin Herbert and you needed a coach who was going to bring the most out of Justin Herbert, who, you know, it's not like he was playing bad before Jim Harbaugh showed up, but he wasn't playing to his, like, full potential. And Jim Harbaugh is just, I think if you just are around him enough, you'll just have confidence to be great at your job. Like he, you know, when he told us about SpongeBob, he's like, I respect SpongeBob. He's a hero of mine. He just does his job every day. Like Jim Harbaugh, if you just put him in any setting, everyone's gonna work harder and get the most out of like their, you know, they're gonna be the most efficient they could be.
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Max
I think he reminds everybody of how much they cared about winning when they were in middle school. Yeah, that's what I think that is. He, he never, he never got past that. Like, he was a sore loser from day one. And all the guys in the NFL at some point had that same thing in them. A lot of them still do, but like some, you know, it's a profession. They go to work, they grind, whatever. But like being around Harbaugh, you're like, oh yeah, oh yeah. I, I only care about showing my teacher how fast I am.
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Big Cat
It's very funny to think now of like Jim Harbaugh losing and going into the locker room and like having to take a moment in his, in his office where he just like cries and like, you know, like is like an 8 year old. He's crying and he's like punching things and he's like, why didn't I, why didn't we win? It's like, well, you, you can't win every time. It's like, no, that's not right. I want to Win. It's not fair. Yeah. All right, so we do have questions for Hank that we'll save when he gets on, because I feel like Gerard Mayo, like, he's got to be fired. Right? They were.
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Max
It goes back. It goes back to what we talked about the other week, which is I don't think that Kraft wants to fire him because then that would be Craft admitting that he made a mistake by hiring him in the first place. And he looks at the. The Patriots organization. His legacy is being like this very classy place where, you know, he thinks of himself like the Steelers, where it's like, we don't fire coaches willy nilly in New England.
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Big Cat
But if you're. I mean, you're going to make the same mistake the Bears just made, where it's like keeping a bad head coach around for a young quarterback is not a good thing. I mean, the Patriots did end up kind of winning the weekend because they vaulted into the number one seed, which was. We'll get to. With the Giants game. But, yeah, we'll ask Hank what he wants. So the next game, which was awesome. Bengals 30, Broncos 24 overtime thriller. We deserved this game. The Bengals stay alive. The Bengals still need help. They need the Broncos and the Dolphins to lose in week 18, and they need to win. But the Bengals, who were, I think 4 and 8 at one point, are alive, still have a playoff shot in week 18 next Sunday. And this was a crazy game because it was basically a microcosm of the Bengals whole season where their defense failed them at crazy times, their kicking failed them, their coach kind of failed them, and Joe Burrow just kept on dragging them out of the mud over and over. He won this game three times. He won this game in regulation. He won this game in overtime, and then he won it for real in overtime. After they got the ball back after the missed kick, he. It was insane to watch. And Joe Burrow is. I. I know he's not going to win mvp, but I think he should absolutely be considered because what he's done, I was looking it up. Pft. So Joe Burrow is going to finish. I think he has 42 touchdown passes right now. He leads the league in touchdown passes and. And yards. There's no quarterback to throw. There's only one quarterback. Sorry. To throw 45 or more touchdowns and not win the MVP, and that was Drew Brees in 2011. And the only reason he didn't win it is because Aaron Rodgers threw 45 and he won the MVP. So if he throws three touchdown passes in week 18. It's going to be unprecedented that a quarterback had the season he had and didn't end up winning the mvp and his team is to blame. But you could make the argument. Lamar and Josh have been incredible. And like, I hope. I selfishly hope Josh wins, but I like, there's no wrong Choice. Saquon also 2000 yards. Joe Burrow has been doing this on a team where, like, he has no margin for error and he has to be this great week in and week out, and no one's going to bail him out.
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Max
I'm just gonna say it. Joe Burrow should be the mvp.
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Big Cat
Yeah. I said two months ago I should have bet it this thing. I'm a. And I didn't bet it when I told everyone to bet it.
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Max
Like, I. I think regardless of if they make the playoffs or not, Joe Burrow should be the mvp. He's been the best player. And that's. I know that's not what the. The award has become, but it should be like, what. Who's to say what the award is? The award is what it says that it is originally. Which is the best player, the most valuable player in the NFL.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
And you can't get, like, how many wins do you think the Bengals would have if they had who's like, the most perfectly average? Dak. If the Bengals had Dak Prescott, Cooper Rush.
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Hank
How many.
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Max
No, not Cooper. He's too good. If they had Dak Prescott, how many wins do you think they'd have this season?
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Big Cat
They would. They would not be playing for a playoff spot in week 18.
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Max
I think they would have lost that game to the Cowboys.
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Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah. He would have gotten confused. He would have thrown it to Cowboys. He would have thrown it to the Cowboys.
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Max
Yeah, they would have definitely lost that game with the Cowboys. And so this was the third game, or, excuse me, eighth game.
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Big Cat
Yes.
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Max
With three touchdowns and 250 yards in a row.
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Big Cat
In a row.
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Max
But here's the crazy, crazy.
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Big Cat
Here's even better of a stat. PFT. He's now done it 10 times this year. There's only four quarterbacks that have ever done that. 10 times. 250 yards, three touchdowns in a game. 10. 10 times in a year. So 10 games they did that. The three others are 2007, Tom Brady, MVP, 2013, Peyton Manning, MVP, 2018, Patrick Mahomes, MVP. So again, another unprecedented. If Joe Burrow doesn't win the mvp, all these other guys that had done the exact same thing he did, they were just on better teams. They won the mvp. Yeah. All his numbers are mvp. His defense has kept it. Like, if, If. If the Cincinnati Bengals had. If they had won one of those games against the Ravens and had beaten the Patriots week one, they would have, what, 10 wins now? So they'd be 10 and six going to. And they would be in the playoffs. Would it even be a debate like he'd be the mvp?
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Max
No. And regardless of if they make the playoffs or not, I. I do think he should be the MVP at this point. Even though it goes against my Lamar Jackson future, I don't care. I'm willing to stand up and say, like, you can. You can take it. I've been lucky enough. Joe Burrow, he's done everything that you want him to do, and it's. I. I don't want this to be looked at. It's going to be a wasted season if they don't make the playoffs and there's still a pretty good chance that they don't make the playoffs.
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Big Cat
Oh, I'd say a high chance.
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Max
It would be. It would be the most wasted season, I think, of all time. Or up there. Because Calvin Johnson, he had 2,000 yards one time with the Lions. I think they won three or four games that season. That was a pretty wasted year, actually. Just Calvin and Barry Sanders, both of them.
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Big Cat
And the Chargers. The Chargers year where they were number one in offense, number one in defense, and last in special teams and didn't make the playoffs.
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Max
Max Homan, the Ryder Cup.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
Wasted season.
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Big Cat
Incredible season. Incredible.
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Max
In the Civil War.
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Big Cat
Crazy. He put up wilt numbers.
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Max
Great, wild numbers. Never Tyrese Maxey this year.
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Big Cat
Yeah. Jared McCain in just in November. Yeah, I. I brought. I don't want to get into, you know, this show. We don't do media narratives for awards. Right. Like, we never push a certain narrative one way or the other.
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Max
No, we go by the show.
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Big Cat
We go by the tape. I wrote something down. I'm not even going to read it.
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Max
I'll read it here.
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Big Cat
I'll. You know what? I'll text it to Max. Max should have to read it.
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Max
Okay.
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Big Cat
Max will read it. And Ravens fans, this is Max Delente. He's the one who's reading this. All right. Say something nice about the Broncos, even though they kind of suck. And I actually, like, weirdly want the Broncos to get in the playoffs so I can bet everything on the Bills against the Broncos.
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Max
Bo Nicks throws the. Out of the football. When he throws the deep ball, he throws the. Out of it, and I respect that.
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Big Cat
Yeah, that's true. All right. Max Say this. This is Maxilente saying it, by the way.
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PFT Commenter
Maxilente here.
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Big Cat
It's getting hot. The. It's funny watching, because we obviously were. We were kind of in the thick of the Heisman race, not having any wager and watching from afar. People are really angry about Josh, Lamar, Joe. Like, it's crazy. Like, I. Ryan Clark, I think his brain is broken. He's just. He's. He's just finding random people online and quote, tweeting all of them to say anything about Lamar. It's like, dude, everyone. Everyone knows Lamar is incredible. He's having an incredible season. He's having such an incredible season. Max has a stat for it.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, here's a stat. Lamar against the Bengals twice, the Bucks once, and the giants, which are three of the worst defenses in the NFL, have 18 touchdowns and zero interceptions.
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Big Cat
Whoa.
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Max
I don't like that stat. I think that's. Oh, so he's not supposed. He's not supposed to play good against bad teams.
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Big Cat
Yeah, that's a crazy stat, Max. Why would you say that?
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Max
Oh, also, Max, maybe. Maybe their defenses are so bad because they have to incorporate the stats. Like what Lamar did to them.
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Big Cat
Yeah, true.
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Max
That has a part in it.
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Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
And maybe. And maybe if. If, like a running back breaks a single season rushing record, they should be considered for MVP, too.
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Big Cat
Oh, in an extra game and 50 less carries. Interesting.
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Max
OJ did that in. No. No less than 14 games.
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Big Cat
Yeah. Eric Dickerson. Six. 16 games for Eric Dickerson. So one extra game. Yeah. I don't know what to make. I mean, the Broncos, like, nice season. I still think they'll probably make the playoffs, although I kind of. I kind of feel like the Chiefs might win that game just out of, like, here's. Here's one thing that. That I. Makes no sense to me. People being like, the Chiefs don't want the Bengals in the playoffs. That makes no sense to me. For this reason, if the Bengals were in the playoffs, they would be the seven seed and the Bills would be the two seed. If the. If the Chiefs had to play the Bengals, that would mean the Bengals beat the Bills. If you ask the Chiefs, who would you rather play, the Bills or the Bengals? It's definitely the Bengals. Their defense has been so bad all year. The Bills beat that. The Chiefs. Like, I know that this, like, burrowhead thing, which, by the way, is not even real, because I think the. I think the Chiefs have beaten them the last three times they've played. Like, if you're a Chiefs fan, I think most Chiefs fans probably think this, like, go ahead, let the Bengals in. Because if they, if they somehow upset the Bills, that's, that's an easier path.
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Max
Yeah, a million percent. They would much rather play that defense than play against the Bills. And if, if you are, if you want like a team that will give the Chiefs a puzzlingly good game and it'll come down to like the last five minutes and the Chiefs will do something that will piss everybody off and win, then. Yeah, the Bengals, that would be the matchup that you're pointing at right there.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
So in, in the last week of the season, we got maybe Carson Wentz, although I heard that, that Mahomes is, is thinking that he might start. I don't know, because it's going to be a lot of time off for them.
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Big Cat
Yeah, that's what I was saying. It's 25 days.
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Max
I don't, I don't, I, I don't disagree with the fact that Andy Reid wants to start Mahomes. I don't think he should play the whole game. I think you're probably going to get like a quarter if they're up by like two scores or a half of Mahomes and then it'll be Carson Winston and Carson Wentz. All I know for a fact is that he will do something that will piss everybody off with the way it impacts the playoff race. That probably going to be a tie. If you put Carson, if he starts that game, plays the whole game, it'll probably be a tie. Everyone's going to get confused and then something's going to happen where you're going to be like, God damn it, that sucks that Carson Wentz started that game.
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Big Cat
Yes, agreed. And also I don't know if you want to start Patrick Mahomes against a Broncos defense. Like Zach Allen had three and a half sacks on Joe Burrow got sacked seven times on, on Saturday. Like you don't. I, I get 25 days is a lot of days. So. Memes, you just sent this. The Chiefs are 3, 0 against the Bengals in the last three. Like it's. Yeah, they play him tough, but again, the Bills are a more complete team than the Bengals. If you, if you're in a must win game in Week 18 and you need help, something went wrong during that season that makes you not as scary of a team.
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Max
I don't think you want to play Josh Allen or Joe Burrow in the playoffs if you're Chiefs, but if you have the choice, you're going to take the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Big Cat
Yeah, yeah.
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Max
It's not. It's not really that close.
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Big Cat
And I get it. Like, you would maybe have to play the Bengals and then also the Ravens, where in another way you'd maybe have to play the chart. I. I get it. But I'm just saying, like, I don't think the Chiefs as a franchise are scared of anyone at this point. Like, it's just not. That's just not how they operate.
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Max
No, they just, they shouldn't be afraid of anybody.
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Big Cat
Yeah. They just win games. Okay. So. Yeah, I, I don't. The, the bonix drive to tie the game was sick. That was like 89 yards and 70 seconds. But I. The Broncos, like, they're limping in right now and it's not like they're bad. It's just they've had to play a couple teams that are better than them and they've kind of been exposed for that.
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Max
I also think the Broncos are kind of irritating for the casual fan to watch because they cycle the running backs around so. So confusingly.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
Like, you have no idea who's going to be getting touches in the red zone. No idea who's going to be getting touches on third down. It's. It's just like hard to figure them out. Say it's like their anonymous crush defense.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
Like, thrive on just being interchangeable.
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Big Cat
Also, I love that Zach Taylor was like, yeah, Chase Brown got hurt, so we had to abandon our plan. It's like you could have just stuck with the plan, dude, like totally botched that where he scored on the next play and didn't even make the Broncos use their last time out.
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Max
That's the other thing that, that ending sequence right there where Chase Brown did the right thing. He went down to like, what, the two yard line, took himself down.
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Big Cat
He got injured doing the right thing. Like, if he had, if he kept on going, he wouldn't have gotten injured.
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Max
That's what I'm saying. So he, he tries to do the right thing. Goes down at like the one or the two to kill the clock. Let them end with a field goal if they want. Or probably the smarter thing would be run the football, let them burn a timeout and then try to score a touchdown afterwards.
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Big Cat
Right.
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Max
So he tries to do the right thing and then they just go ahead and score on the next play anyways. And then the game goes to overtime and he's injured and he's watching. He's like, why the did I did that? Like, it. Yeah. Makes no sense. So, yeah. Zach Taylor, I don't know. Do you Think Zach Taylor, is he safe? How safe is Zach?
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Big Cat
I think he's safe. I mean, the Bengals have to pay T. Higgins. I don't know how much he's going to get paid. A lot of money. But if that was T. Higgins last game, home game in Cincinnati, what a way to go out. Because he had three touchdowns and like, just absolutely abuse Riley Moss. And I like, you got it. This is. The Bengals are. I feel bad for Bengals fans because this is just you. You have a franchise quarterback who's playing MVP level, who's ascended to a different level. You have the best wide receiver in. In the game, and you have a cheap owner that might not pay for an insane weapon in T. Higgins. And this season is like, you just can't waste seasons like this. And they. Did they cheat? You know, they're just cheap ownership and it sucks.
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Max
Yeah. So you know what pisses me off is that it's not public information to find NFL coaches salaries.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
That should be listed. I know. It's just like it's. It's not part of the salary cap. So the, the teams don't have to list it for any, like, competitive reason. And why would a private business owner, like, list how much they're paying somebody if they don't have to? But that's. That we should know. I want to know how much everybody's getting paid because that, that way when they do something stupid, you can be like, oh, you get. You get paid $17 million a season to fuck up the end of the fourth quarter. And I do it for free. So I don't know what his extension is right now, but I think he. I'm reading that he makes four and a half million per year, so depending on how many more. Not that much.
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Big Cat
No. That's the low. That's probably the lowest of any NFL head coach. Like, that's about the bare minimum, which shows to the cheap ownership.
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Max
And it also means that, like, if he's got a couple more years left, they're probably not going to want to fire him because then you have to pay him.
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Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah. I think andy Reid makes 20 million, which is actually a bargain.
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Max
Yeah.
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Big Cat
Like, when you think about it. Okay. Rams 13, Cardinals 9. The Rams are possibly in without having to play Week 18. We're still waiting for the Commanders Falcons game to end, but obviously a big win. They needed this win. They are. I. I have a couple statements that it might. Might bite me in the ass in a couple weeks. The first one is, I'm not scared of the Rams even Though I have my pinky on the line. I'm not scared of the Rams. I think their offense is like broken.
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Max
Their running game's not.
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Big Cat
The running game's good. But they, they, they, they are now 11 straight games without scoring in the first quarter. Three out of the last four games. So that obviously the bills game was insane. Three out of the last four Games. I think they've scored like, I don't know, like 13 points a game. And Cooper cup has been invisible in three out of the last four games or four out of last five games. Sorry. Taking out the Bills game. He's caught seven balls for 70 yards in, in four of the last five games. I don't. They just, they, they start slow. Their defense is good. Their defense made some big plays against the Cardinals down the stretch. I just don't think they're a complete team that can win the Super Bowl. So I'm doubling down.
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Max
I, I think that might be mostly on Matt Stafford, though. Matt Stafford hasn't played well in like the last month. So, yeah, Cooper Cup's been kind of invisible. The coup is still manages to put up some stats, but Matt Stafford hasn't. When was the last time he threw for even 200 yards?
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Big Cat
Well, he definitely did against the Bills that you got to take out the Bills game because remember, the Bills game was just an insane up and down shootout, Big 12 game.
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Max
But yeah, he hasn't been that good since like November.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
So I, I am, I'm not afraid of the Rams in the same way that I'd be afraid of other teams. Like the Eagles are, are like a way more physical team and they'll beat the. Out of you. I would be afraid of what Sean McVeigh is capable of in the playoffs.
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Big Cat
I, I'd agree with that. I just.
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Max
And I think when he knows that he might have like an undermatched team and that he has to do weird. That's what I'm afraid of.
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Big Cat
And this also comes down to the seating, how it's gonna most likely work out.
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Max
You know, like the NFC is going to be kind of up with the receipt.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
Because the Vikings or the Lions are going to be seated as a wild card, but they're going to be better than whoever wins the south and whoever wins the West.
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Big Cat
Right. Exactly. And same with, you know, the Packers. You throw in there as well. Oh, big touchdown. Not Brian Robinson. That hurts Chris Rodriguez Jr. The, the Commanders take the lead, 20 to 17. 13 minutes left in the fourth quarter. But yeah, I just. Again, this is gonna probably Bite me in the ass. The other statements coming later. That's really gonna bite me in the ass. I'll just, I'll give a preview right now. I'm not worried about the packers at all.
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Max
Okay, well then beat them next week.
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Big Cat
These two statements are gonna hurt me. Yeah, these two statements are gonna hurt me. Say that.
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Max
Say that after next week, please, because I need you to beat the Packers. I need. I need.
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Big Cat
We're not gonna beat the Packers. We're not go Will. The Bears will be lucky to feel the team next week. Half the guys are probably going to be in Cancun by the time kickoff comes around.
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Max
Harbaugh would be disgust. He would spit on you for this attitude.
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Big Cat
Yeah, listen, I would. I want to spit on myself. Pause Cardinals. I. I just can't quit. I said it, I think I said it on Friday. I was like, I'm. Or maybe it was last Monday where I was like, Kyler Murray are like, I. I don't know how many more years I can do this. And then he was actually incredible. Like he, he made some big time plays except for throwing an AB bullet off Trey McBride's face for the interception, which was very funny. And Trey McBride shout out. Got it. Got a touchdown. 98th catch of the season was his first touchdown reception. The only. The, the second longest was Keyshawn in 2001. He had 92 before he caught a touchdown pass. But yeah, I don't. Kyler Murray is like, there's weeks where I'm just like, I don't want to watch this guy anymore. And then I'm like, yeah, I actually could sell myself on him being the guy. So I don't, I don't know where. I'm just confused about Kyler at all times.
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Max
They were trying so hard to get that ball to Trey McBride too. Oh, yeah, they did it like they ran like four or five plays. Just try. That was the super bowl was having Trey McBride score touchdown pass. And yeah, they tried to go back. That pass was very funny at the end. Kyler, I. Yeah, I don't know because when he's playing at his best, you can't really contain him. And he looks like he's a little magical guy. But then you get. You've gotten so much more of the bad Kyler as the season went on. Maybe Kyler was the one that he needs to absorb the Cliff Kingsbury stats.
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Big Cat
Yeah, he. Because he does. He fades. That team faded. And they should have, they should have won that game against the Rams. And the Rams just held on and.
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Max
So, see, I. I don't know. I don't know that, that Gannon's safe either.
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Big Cat
Pew, pew, pew, pew.
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PFT Commenter
Pe.
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Big Cat
He didn't do enough. He had the one where he went for it on 4th and 10. I appreciated that. But it was not enough for us to give him immunity for life.
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Max
Yeah, he. His game plan was just Trey McBride. That's what he worked on. I think all week. He just schemed plays for him.
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Big Cat
Yeah. Okay, let's go to Sunday. Eagles 41, Cowboys 7. Our guy Max was there. We got to hear everything about it. Also, shout out, Pug. He was right about Tanner McKee. Three for four, two touchdowns. Tanner McKee is electric. He might be the future. And the Eagles win the NFC east, continuing the streak 20 20th consecutive season that we haven't had a repeat winner in the NFC East. Max, you were there. What was it like? You got to meet Nick Sirianni.
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PFT Commenter
I did meet Nick Sirianni. Great guy, Grape eyes on. Never said a bad word about him. I love Nick Sirianni.
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Max
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Sirianni. Two weeks ago. I did not.
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Big Cat
That's true.
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PFT Commenter
It was. It was a quick intro. It was a quick intro. I thanked him for. Thanked him for his service. He is now the first Eagles coach with two 13 win seasons. Very impressive. One of the most winning coaches in the NFL right now. That's a fact. Kind of one of whatever. Nick Sirianni, my guy.
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Max
Did you thank him? What service did you thank him for.
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PFT Commenter
Being a good football coach?
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Big Cat
Okay. And. And you got in big. Big Dom. Big Dom. You're with Big Dom, who's our favorite? He was.
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PFT Commenter
He gave the best.
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Big Cat
He gave you game ball?
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, Big Dom gave me a game ball. It was a wild. It was a wild day from start to finish. He brought me out onto the field. I watched. I watched all the guys go out for warm ups, do. Do their whatever. Some rant. He. He was some. One of other. Another one of Big Dom's friends was just face. FaceTime with Pete Davidson. And Big Dom brings his friend over and he's like, yo, Pete, meet my friend. And then he just showed me the phone and it was just Pete Davidson. I was like, what's up, Pete? So. So that's a. That's how the day started. And then he gave me the sickest seats ever. 50, 50 yard line, first row. Eagles go up big in the fourth quarter. Then he just starts acting like Santa Claus. He comes over, he gives me. He gives me a game ball. He get. Goes to my mom. He gives my mama Like a team issued beanie. It was great. Unbelievable day. The Eagles beat the out of the co. And Big Dom was just the best, as you could imagine.
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Max
Big Dom got. He got a lot of facetime today, too. Big Dom was all over the screen After. After A.J. brown threw Tanner McKee's first touchdown pass into the stands. The camera, like, immediately cut the big. Big Dom and AJ Because AJ Was like, I'll give him my jersey. I'll give my jersey. Big Dom's like, I got this. I'm gonna take care of this guy. Don't worry about it. So, Max, as fate would have it, my aunt was actually at the game sitting next to the guy that caught that ball from A.J.
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Memes
Brown.
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Max
Yeah. And so the team security came up to him and was like, big Dom's going to take care of you. We need that ball back. But Big Dom says he's going to make it good. And the kid was like, yeah, sure, no problem. I trust Big Dom.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
No, I mean that we. The Revel, whatever the losers. Like, that is a situation that you have. You should give the ball back, I think.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Exactly. The chances of Tanner McKee going on to be this like, sorry, Pug.
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Big Cat
Sorry.
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PFT Commenter
Sorry, Pug.
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Big Cat
Tanner McKee is the truth.
- [45:20]
PFT Commenter
Tanner McKee, very good quarterback. He had a great. That was a great drive that he had today. He had two great balls in that drive. A.J. brown caught two of his touchdowns. But, yeah, whatever.
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Max
It seems like all the Eagles backup quarterbacks have great relationships with A.J.
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Big Cat
Brown.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, no, it's a great quarterback room.
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Big Cat
We're building a factory, but Big Dom is the best. That was awesome that he. He, you know, hooked you guys up, you and your parents. And so I. I like. Big Dom's one of those guys, like, when I grow up, I want to be Big Dom. I know that makes no sense because I'm about to be 40, but I do. I do want to be Big Dom when I grow up.
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Max
Yeah. Max, you know how you say that you preferred it if Jaden Daniels was not in the division? I would prefer it if Big Dom wasn't in the division. Like, he's.
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PFT Commenter
I love that stage. That's awesome. That rocks.
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Big Cat
He's a problem in the division.
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Max
Yeah, he is. He has put him on any other team.
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Big Cat
Did you. Did you, Max? Did you see Jerry Jones went on his radio show after, and he said that an Eagles fan went up to him and said, keep doing the job you're doing this year. And he was not happy. I love that. I mean, the Cowboys, I should have known because I was like, oh, maybe the Cowboys are me. Frisky here. The Eagles are Cooper Rush, kryptonite. He is. He's played the Eagles three times. He has 373 yards total against the Eagles in three games. Full starts, two touchdowns, five interceptions. This game was a laugher. It wasn't even like you guys were pick sixes and Kenny Pickett got scored. It still didn't matter.
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PFT Commenter
There was. There was a little bit of a hairy moment there in the first. First quarter. I mean, yeah, it started off with a pick six, but then, you know, we stalled. We were getting out. I think at one point the Cowboys had like 150 yards to our, like, 14. So it was like. It wasn't from start to finish, but we. We picked it. We picked it up. And Saquon. Saquon is. Yeah, yeah, he.
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Max
He had a great game. And Kenny Pickett actually looked pretty good when he was in. I think he. He broke his ribs last week, and so they said he had a painkilling injection shot and then he took another shot to the ribs. So I don't know. I don't know how long he's going to be out, but you should get Jalen back next week, right?
- [47:33]
Big Cat
Oh, he's gonna sit. I don't have nothing to play for. Yeah, they got the Tuesday, although wrapped up.
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PFT Commenter
The question is, do you. Do you play Saquon next week?
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Big Cat
I would say 1 yards.
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PFT Commenter
He's 101 yards from the record. I also say no, but if I had to guess, I think. If I had to guess, I think that they. I think they will play him and I actually.
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Big Cat
They should have kept him in. They should have kept him in longer this week. I know that doesn't make any sense because, like, snaps or snaps, but once you're already playing a game. I don't know. I. My guess is they play him and give him like 10 carries and see if he can break one. Yeah, that feels like what they're gonna do.
- [48:16]
Max
Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
Like, I don't want him to play at all. Like, if he gets hurt that and can't play in the playoffs, don't say. I mean, that's what. That's the whole. That's a. That's the whole conversation. That's the. That's the only thing you can say.
- [48:30]
Max
The only.
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PFT Commenter
I don't want him to do it.
- [48:33]
Max
The only reason I wish they'd play him next week is because it would make that clip of Stephen Chase saying not to draft him in fantasy football even funnier. If he then went on to have the all time greatest season in the history of the sport of football.
- [48:44]
Big Cat
I also. Eric Dickerson's. Eric Dickerson's been kind of a salty about it, so, like, I kind of want him to play for that reason, too.
- [48:52]
Max
So, yeah, it's like Mercury Morris vibes when Mercury Morris would, like, talk about any team that was, you know, 12 0. But I kind of respect it too. Like, if you're Eric Dickerson, you don't. You don't want your record to be broken. That's not true. When people say that, like Kareem Abdul Jabbar, when he had to give that game, but when they stopped the entire NBA to give a ball to LeBron James, that is. That's. No, Nobody with a realistic, like a true competitor would not want their record to be broken. They want to be known as the best.
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Big Cat
Here's the only counterpoint. And I, I feel like if I had a record like that, I would, I'd want it to be broken before I died. Because you do get a bounce of like, everyone saying, wow, Eric Dickerson was incredible. That's an insane record. So, like, if I could time it to, like, get my record broken like a year or two before I die so that I get all the. Because, like, once you're dead, what does it matter? You know, it's gonna get broken, you're gonna be dead, and no one's gonna be able to say, hey, you were awesome.
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Max
Okay, so that's a good point. Because if you're like Michael Strahan and you have the single season rec for Sacks, you're already famous. You're on every TV show in America. You don't want that record to be broken. There's no upside for you. Yeah, but, but if you haven't really done much since you played, you're fading off a little bit, then you get, you get a week of free dinners, right?
- [50:07]
Big Cat
And. And you get to go to the game and you get to be like, oh, young buck. Like, great job. And if you're Eric Dickerson, you get the added bonus of an extra game. And I know the carries. Max, you mentioned the carries. You had that ready to go. But you could always be like, I didn't play 17 games.
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Max
Yeah.
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Big Cat
So you could be like, oh, I had the 16 game record.
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Max
It is cool to get 2,000 yards, though, in. In 16 games.
- [50:30]
Big Cat
Yes. Very cool. Very, very cool. I. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. He. Saquon did have a funny line after, which is more injury for the Giants when he said it was his first hat and T shirt game and he didn't even know that was a thing. That's tough for Giants fans that he was like, I had no idea that a hat and T shirt game was a thing.
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Max
Do you think.
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Big Cat
Do you think the Cowboys will play Trail Trey Lance next week?
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Max
I mean, they should. Why haven't they?
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Big Cat
I don't know. It's a good question.
- [50:59]
Max
Jones. Okay. I feel like he's lost his fastball.
- [51:03]
Big Cat
No. Eagles fans are chirping him.
- [51:04]
Max
He's getting chirped and then he's going on and he's. He's amplifying that.
- [51:09]
Big Cat
Yeah, it's bad.
- [51:11]
Max
I'm worried about Jerry Jones. I. I don't think he's capable of making his insane decisions anymore. I think that he's just, you know, kind of a normal guy that doesn't like to stir the pot too much. I don't like that.
- [51:21]
Big Cat
Yeah, I agree. It's. It's. It's a little. He's being a little too quiet about everything.
- [51:25]
Max
Yeah. What are you laughing about, Max?
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PFT Commenter
I'm just thinking about. Eagles fans are the best. There was this guy behind me at the game today, and every single play was a call by the refs, and it was a fucking rare show. I remember there was two tackles of, like, Saquon was just running outside, and they just, like, took his legs out and he just goes, that's a chop block. That's a chop block of just, like, having no idea what any of it actually means. But I. I. Shout out that guy. That guy was the best.
- [51:53]
Big Cat
Shout out that guy. Shout out that guy. Oh, B. Rob, we need him to score a touchdown for the people. All right, Giants 45, Colts 33. Who's more mad at this result?
- [52:08]
Max
The Giants.
- [52:09]
Big Cat
But the Colts, too. Like that. They were. The Colts were in the pecking order of, like, you know, obviously we've talked about the Bengals a lot, but the Colts was. We're going to be in if the. If the Broncos lost in week 18.
- [52:21]
Max
I still think the Giants are more angry about it. If you're a Colts fan. Yeah, your defense sucked. Your defense was so bad, Drew Lock carved you up. But you had Joe Flacco, so you can just say, oh, we had our backup quarterback. So in terms of what this means for the future, we can't get the full picture on everything because if. If AR is in there, he's probably going to run the ball a lot more and, you know, limit the possessions a little bit. But yeah, it's. It's bad. It's bad for both teams. Don't get me wrong. But for the Giants, this was, this was such a, Such a bad win. This might be the worst win of all time.
- [52:53]
Big Cat
Yeah. I mean, they went from the first draft pick to the fourth, and they obviously.
- [52:59]
Max
Yes, exactly.
- [53:01]
Big Cat
Yeah. So they, it's crazy. They end up winning this game. It. It does kind of prove that tanking in the NFL is impossible because the quotes from the Giants players after were like, we're not trying to lose. Like, we're. We're out here playing for our jobs. They did avoid becoming the first team ever to lose nine home games in a season. But. So I, It's. I actually think it's. It could be worse for the Colts if they don't fire Chris Ballard. That would be my statement. Chris Ballard. Do you know this. This is a fun stat about Chris Ballard. So he took over the job in 2017. Since 2017, there have been. I think it's seven. So seven years, seven winners of the AFC South. The Jaguars have won it twice. The Titans have won it twice. The Texans have won it three times. The Indianapolis Colts have won it zero times. It is the most combustible division that you can win year to year, and Chris Ballard's teams have not won it a single time. And this is another year where. Remember the 2021 year where they lost the Jags, a terrible Jags team at the end of the season.
- [54:13]
Max
Yep.
- [54:13]
Big Cat
They had it last year where they had a win and get in game. His teams just fall apart. Their defenses fall apart. The giants were averaging 14 points a game and they had 45. I know there were some turnovers, but 45 points, like it was crazy.
- [54:29]
Max
Malik Neighbors couldn't be stopped. The running game was good. Drew Locke is a Bronco for life. We already knew that. But he's still even more of a Bronco for life for beating the Colts. Yeah, it's bad. It's a very bad situation for the Colts, but I feel like this was an. So if they, if they had won this game and then they lost next week, didn't get in, I would think that Chris Ballard had a higher likelihood of sticking around. Right?
- [54:51]
Big Cat
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. If this gets rid of Chris Ballard, this is an okay loss for the Colts because you, if you keep Chris Ballard and you. They already said that Anthony Richardson is going to be their quarterback. Starting quarterback to start next year. So I'd already like to make a prediction. If Chris Ballard Sticks around. If they don't change anything for the Colts, I'd like to make a prediction that the Colts will finish eight or nine or nine and eight and miss the playoffs.
- [55:12]
Max
Yep. It sounds.
- [55:14]
Big Cat
That's where they're gonna be.
- [55:15]
Max
Yeah, this. This is one of those shootouts where I thought that the Colts should have gone for two when they were. They scored a touchdown. I think they were down. What were they down? I think to make it down 9 instead of down 10. Like, your defense. Your defense wasn't stopping anybody. And sometimes you got to do weird like that. And we saw Matt LaFleur tried to do something like that later on in the day, but, yeah, bad. Bad game for the Colts. Bad game for the Giants fans. I know during the game, they were very active. They were very vocal about, like, they were cheering on their team. They wanted to win. But there's probably, like, a hangover that you had when you're driving out of the stadium and you're like, that was fun. But, yeah, I really. I really. It's like, I really should have wrapped it up.
- [56:00]
Big Cat
I guess the only thing you could. I think. I think the only thing you could say is maybe. And this is what I would do if I were a Giants fan, be like, you know, there's no. It's not, like, the best quarterback class, and we would have to talk ourselves into it, and maybe you get the decision made for you. And also the. The Patriots are first pick right now. They already have a quarterback, so you could potentially trade, which sucks. But, yeah, it's a bad law. It's a bad win. I mean, it's a bad win. You can't win that game if you're the Giants. I don't know. Like, you just can't win that game.
- [56:29]
Max
There's somewhere there is somebody's dad who's a Giants fan that is like, it's okay. It's all right that we lost that Cam Ward, he sat out the second half of the whole game. We don't want it. That's not a Giant. It's not New York. Do you think Eli Manning would ever do that? That's not the kind of guy we want.
- [56:44]
Big Cat
Yeah, that's true. I. I just can't. I just want to keep speaking up for Colts fans. I know Dan Dockage, our friend Dan Dawkish is doing it because he. He's been saying the truth about Chris Ballard for a long time. Chris Ballard, you just, like, it's insane that he doesn't get more heat then. I mean, that stat about Every other team winning the AFC south twice in his time and him never winning one. And not only that, but this was the first year in his tenure that they had the same starting quarterback from one year to the next. Anthony Richardson technically was a starting quarterback last year, starting quarterback this year. That's all he's been doing is just changing quarterbacks. He's gone through a million. And I know Andrew Luck retired and that was bad, but, like, it's. I feel bad for Colts fans because it feels like this guy's never going to get fired and. And you just have, like, soft teams that end up falling apart in the end, especially defensively at the end of the season.
- [57:36]
Max
Yeah. For the last, like, how long has it been? 15 years with Grigson. Even before this. The Colts always have a GM that kind of just. He. He just hangs out with Jim Irsay and gets his trust and then doesn't get any results until somebody that Ursay trust tells him, like, hey, this guy's just taking your money.
- [57:57]
Big Cat
Yeah, it's. It's crazy because you can't. Like, the Colts had Peyton Manning, so they can't. You know, like, if you're a Colts fan, you've had good moments, but. And then you had Andrew Luck and that obviously, you know, they couldn't protect him and he retired early. But I do feel bad for Colts fans because they are the ultimate tease team where they are always a little bit competitive and they actually, like, weirdly do the right thing of, like, that when they lose. When they have a bad season, they really do bottom out. You know, they had the. The season to get Andrew Luck. They. They had a 4 and 12 season and got Anthony Richardson. Like, they. They do it correct, but they just. They're such a tee. They're 8, 9, 9 and 8 every single year and they fall apart like this and it would drive me nuts. And Chris Ballard, I don't know how you have a job as a national sports podcast. Fire Chris Ballard.
- [58:42]
Max
Yeah, Bill. Bill Poland made one good decision and that was he drafted Peyton Manning instead of Ryan Leaf, and then he didn't have to make another decision about a quarterback for a very long time.
- [58:51]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [58:52]
Max
And then, yeah, every other person that's taken over that, like, right hand man to Jim Ursay has just like, been like, jim, I got this. Don't worry about the outside. I'm going to. I'm going to handle all this. You just go buy another guitar. I'll make everything okay.
- [59:04]
Big Cat
Yeah, yeah, exactly right. All right. Bucks, Panthers. Bucks 48, Panthers 14 bucks are back. That was a big statement win just off of a bad game against the Cowboys. I know the Panthers defense. Like, the Panthers were missing everyone. They, they, you know, Chuba was out, JC Horn was out, Josie Jewell was out. Like, they got absolutely gashed. The big story of this, I had two big stories from this game, actually. Three, Bryce Young's still good quarterback of the future for the Panthers. Number two is Mike Evans. Now is 85 yards away from getting a thousand yards. So I'm hoping for that because we're big Mike Evans podcast. And number three, the duck that caused the block punt. That was awesome. Get that duck into the Bucs hall of Fame. So I don't know how you can find that duck, but you need to get that duck. Maybe eat it. Maybe eat it before the playoffs.
- [59:53]
Max
I've seen better ducks, but pft.
- [59:57]
Big Cat
For people who don't. Who aren't watching this game, I don't blame you. There was a duck on the field. They showed the duck. They were like zooming in on the duck. Literally the second after they were zooming in on the duck. They had to go away from the duck because the Bucks blocked a punt and got a touchdown out of it. The duck caused that. And then the whole crowd started chanting Ducky, Ducky. Because they were chanting Bucky earlier because Bucky Irving had an incredible game. Get that duck. If you want to win a Super bowl, don't eat the duck. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, get the duck. Put it in a. Put it in a mascot, you know, bin. I don't even know Cage. Have it on the sideline. That duck is vibes. That could win you a Super Bowl.
- [60:36]
Max
Okay, listen, I. I got no problem with the duck. I just wish that the duck had been in the shot, like the live shot when the block. That would have really sealed the deal for. I think it's a very good duck. I think as far as ducks go, it's. It's an elite duck. But if you're going to talk like hall of fame, let's, you know, turn this into a rally squirrel. I would like the duck to have a better sense of camera presence. Yeah, no. When he's on tv.
- [60:59]
Big Cat
But I agree with you.
- [61:01]
Max
It was the magic of television where. Great job. To the guys in the truck. Guys in the truck put the camera on the duck. They were the ones that spotlighted the duck for us. The duck just kind of. He didn't even know he was on tv and he flew away when the lights got bright.
- [61:14]
Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah, so I, I, I'll take that. I agree with you there. Like the Duck. It would have been cool if the Duck had, like, run the punt back with the team.
- [61:23]
Max
They, they should bring that duck all around Tampa. Like, I want to see that duck at hockey games.
- [61:29]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [61:29]
Max
I want to give the Duck a key to the city. If you turn the Duck. Because if you give the Duck a chance to be great on TV and give him another shot. I think the Duck does have something special. But I need to see more film of the Duck before I can confirm as being like a Duck of destiny.
- [61:44]
Big Cat
Yeah. Baker's going to end up with. Because they have. The Bucks do have to play next week. Baker's going to end up with 40 touchdowns, 40 plus touchdowns and 4,500 yards. What a season.
- [61:56]
Max
So are the Bucks a team that you would not want to play?
- [61:59]
Big Cat
I would say if the Bucks are a team I do not want to play. Okay.
- [62:02]
Max
So would you, would you rather play the Rams or the Bucks?
- [62:05]
Big Cat
I'd rather play the Rams, I think. I don't know. The Bucks defense is not great, although they have been injured. I know Antoine Winfield was out in this game and he's very important, but Todd Bowles can dial it up. Pft.
- [62:22]
Max
He can, he can heat up a quarterback. I, I think the Rams and the Bucks are just complete, like, polar opposites right now, where the Rams defense is very good and the Bucks defense isn't. The Bucks offense is clicking. The Rams defense looks old and slow.
- [62:38]
Big Cat
Yeah, the, the Bucks, like Bucky Irving is awesome. 190 yards from scrimmage today. Jalen McMillan is a real deal wide receiver. Number two option Mike Evans looks fine. Like, yeah, I would probably not want to play the Bucks just because there's just more variance in like a shootout and stuff, you know, I wouldn't want.
- [63:00]
Max
To play a pissed off Baker.
- [63:01]
Big Cat
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's facts for sure. And then, yeah, the Panthers were really injured and I, I do think Bryce Young, he made an insane awesome throw to Adam. They should. The Panthers need to keep Adam Thielen. That they do need to do because they, that's clearly a connection that works for Bryce Young. And like, that was a smart signing that is now showing that it was smart. Like, you need a guy like that for a young quarterback. And Adam Thielen still got some gas in the tank.
- [63:30]
Max
Adam Thielen's got to be so happy that things just like, magically turned around. He was in hell.
- [63:35]
Big Cat
Oh. And when we talked to him. Yeah, Yeah.
- [63:37]
Max
I felt Like, Adam Thielen was, like, very, very close to having a hamstring injury that lingered on for like, 10 weeks.
- [63:44]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [63:45]
Max
But I wouldn't blame him the way that things were going. But, yeah, it's. It's the. The minor car accident with Andy Dalton turned around the entire vibe.
- [63:54]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [63:54]
Max
Which sucks because, like, no one's happy that Andy Dalton got into a car accident, but it ended up making entire city happy.
- [64:01]
Big Cat
Yeah. And the Panthers arrow pointing up, which, again, if you had asked us this in October, like, there's no chance that you'd be enthused about the Panthers season going into next year. I think legitimately you can be, especially in the NFC south, where that's a division where teams can. Can feel like they can, you know, win it out of nowhere. So, yeah, I just want the Bucks in the playoffs. I would like to see the Bucks in the playoffs. I want to see Baker in the playoffs. He's agreed. It's like, like, no offense to Michael Penix in the Falcons, but, like, I want to. I have personal preferences. I want to see Baker over the Falcons. I want to see Joe Burrow over. Imagine if the Dolphins make it. Like, if the Broncos lose and the Dolphins get in. No offense to the Dolphins fans, but, like, I want to see the Bengals. I'm sorry? I want to see the Bengals.
- [64:46]
Max
I don't want to see a Baker. Sam Darnold matchup at some point in the playoffs.
- [64:51]
Big Cat
Yes. Okay, we're gonna get to the jets game and Hank is about to join us. Before we do that, Pft. You had a couple quick ads.
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Max
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PFT Commenter
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Big Cat
I've changed locations, Hank has joined us and the Washington Commanders are officially in the playoffs. Congratulations. Pft. We watched the end of that game it was crazy. You were in the playoffs.
- [68:00]
Max
Yoffs, baby. I mean what a, what a great season this has been. Unreal. Like yoffs were way outside my expectations. Now as Hank says, let's go in the whole damn thing. Right, Hank?
- [68:09]
Eddie
Yeah, yeah, it.
- [68:11]
Max
Yeah. But Daniels did throw that interception. I want, I want to just talk about that interception for a little bit. It was a bad pick. Shouldn't have thrown that. Went right to the linebacker. They confused him. You know, he's a rookie. Sometimes mistakes will happen, but you can't make excuses. A simple zone blitz. You should know better as a rookie than to make a pass like that.
- [68:29]
Big Cat
Oh yeah.
- [68:29]
Max
Also he had infinity rushing yards and we are now 11. That's a. You know what? This is a huge. This is our 11th win. Right. This is a very important moment for me, Big Cat, because the insult graphic that people like to put up your memes etc is in the off season of the last time each team has won 11 games and it's every other team since like 2009. And then Washington is in 1991.
- [68:59]
Big Cat
There you go dead.
- [69:00]
Max
We fucking killed a meeting today and we did it in 16 games. So you can't even do that excuse to it. I don't, I don't remember ever winning 11 games. I don't, I remember the super bowl in, in 1991, but I don't remember winning 11 games. I don't, I don't know what I'm supposed to feel like. Shout out to Zach Hertz who caught I think two balls with his dick, which has got to be a record. Pennix looked good. I want to give credit to Michael Pennix though.
- [69:28]
Big Cat
Yeah, his, his drive to tie the game was awesome. But then Jaden Daniel's drive in overtime was incredible. And you're in the playoffs. Like that was, that was an incredible drive. That was everything that you know, this whole year has been. He's been insane. And now you're in the playoffs. Hank lost a bet, but he now is all in on Super Bowl. It also changed essentially all of next Sunday because the Rams have clinched the NFC west officially. The Bucks are winning. Get in the. And then like you guys are set. So there was, I don't know, maybe like three or four games that were maybe going to be more meaningful.
- [70:06]
Max
Full. You're in the playoffs because we just jumped the packers. So now we're the six seed. Oh, so we would play against the Rams. That's why. Big Cat, I need you to, I need you to beat the Packers.
- [70:18]
Big Cat
Need that.
- [70:18]
Max
We need that Try. Can you try for me, Big Cat? Just one last. I know you.
- [70:23]
Big Cat
You're not worried. I'm not worried about the Rams. They're not that good. You're fine. You could beat the Rams.
- [70:29]
Max
No, I'm saying in order. So there's a possibility that if the. The packers, if they beat the Bears next week, then they're 12 and 5. That means that we would have to beat the Cowboys to get the six seed.
- [70:41]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [70:42]
Eddie
Yes.
- [70:43]
Big Cat
But you're. You're putting. What's more likely to happen, The Washington Commanders beating Cooper Rush and the Cowboys or the Chicago Bears beating the Green Bay Packers? Don't put that on me. You don't need to handle that. You can't handle that.
- [70:55]
Max
I would like you to. To chip in.
- [70:58]
Eddie
You don't need them to.
- [71:00]
Big Cat
I can't handle that. There's nothing I can do. They're not gonna. There's no chipping in. They're not doing anything. They're not even gonna show up to the game. You guys are going to beat the Cowboys, you're gonna play the Rams. You're gonna beat the Rams, and then you're gonna play the Eagles. I don't know what's. What's wrong? Max. Max is putting his hand up.
- [71:19]
PFT Commenter
I thought I was playing the Commanders in the first round.
- [71:23]
Big Cat
No.
- [71:23]
Max
Well, not anymore, buddy.
- [71:26]
Big Cat
Oh, no, Max. Yeah. Now you're gonna be playing. So wait, who.
- [71:31]
Max
Who would match the packers right now?
- [71:33]
Big Cat
Oh, no. Oh, no.
- [71:36]
Max
But it all comes down to what happens next weekend. Because if the packers win and we lose, then it's back to the game.
- [71:42]
Big Cat
Means just win.
- [71:43]
Eddie
Yeah, but just win.
- [71:44]
Big Cat
Actually, no, but just lose. Because we want Commander's Eagles, too. Yeah, we want Commander's Eagles for the show. Hank, come on. So maybe. You know what? Maybe the Bears will. I can't even say with a straight face. They're not gonna beat the packers, dude.
- [72:00]
Max
Well, if the Bears beat the packers, then we don't get Commander's Eagles first round.
- [72:06]
Big Cat
Oh. Oh, yeah, they would be. Okay, so. Yeah. So you don't. We need Commander's Eagles. The show needs Commander's Eagles. The show should be rooting for Commander's Eagles. So that means now worried, worried.
- [72:17]
Eddie
Best case scenario for the show and for you specifically, would be Commander's Rams first round Commanders win.
- [72:25]
Big Cat
That's true.
- [72:26]
Eddie
Packers first round Eagles, Eagles win. All the. All the bad juju out of the way, and then we get Commander's Eagles.
- [72:32]
Big Cat
Yes. Okay. I can live with that. I. I can deal with that.
- [72:37]
PFT Commenter
That's still not True. That's still not true.
- [72:40]
Big Cat
Max is, like, heartbroken.
- [72:42]
PFT Commenter
Would be Commander. It would be Commanders.
- [72:46]
Big Cat
Oh, yeah. It wouldn't even. No, it wouldn't be Commander's Vikings. Those are two wild cards.
- [72:51]
PFT Commenter
It was.
- [72:51]
Big Cat
Unless the Vikings get the one seed.
- [72:52]
PFT Commenter
Unless the Vikings. No, right now the Vikings have the one seed. That's why I said that.
- [72:57]
Max
Right. Because the Lions haven't played yet.
- [72:59]
Big Cat
Correct.
- [72:59]
PFT Commenter
Correct.
- [73:00]
Big Cat
No, the Commanders. The Commanders and Eagles are not going to play in the playoffs unless they play in the NFC championship game. Yeah.
- [73:07]
Eddie
Okay. All right.
- [73:09]
Big Cat
We need Commander's Eagles.
- [73:10]
Eddie
Yeah, we do.
- [73:12]
Max
All right, so the shows next weekend, but I will not be rooting for that.
- [73:17]
Big Cat
Max is so confused right now.
- [73:19]
Max
I mean, Max, I, I thought you. You wanted the Commanders, right?
- [73:22]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, dude, the packers are a million times better than the Commanders.
- [73:29]
Max
Yeah, Keep it up. Yeah. I love this, Max.
- [73:32]
Big Cat
Actually, Max, that's not true because the Commanders are the six seed right now. How could they be a million times better than the packers when the packers are the 7 seed?
- [73:41]
Max
Good point.
- [73:42]
PFT Commenter
What is this playoff? I don't know why in my head.
- [73:46]
Big Cat
So great, because Max, like, literally was. Has spent the last month being like, oh, I'm so stressed out. Like, the Commanders, like, it be bad for, like, my life and everything if they. But now it's setting in that he might have to play the packers. And he is terrified of the Packers. Terrified.
- [74:05]
PFT Commenter
Well, because I'm gonna have you on my side and you don't.
- [74:09]
Max
I don't.
- [74:09]
PFT Commenter
I, I, I don't like you on my side in the playoffs, but I'm gonna be on.
- [74:15]
Big Cat
If this sets up, I'm gonna be on both of your sides big time. If the Commanders play the Rams, I'm gonna be burgundy and gold. And then the Eagles play the Packers. We're gonna be doing Kelly Green. Yeah, that's bad for both of you. Actually, now that I'm playing this out.
- [74:30]
Max
In my head, you might go over to that weekend. So they just announced the schedule for next week.
- [74:35]
Big Cat
The tangle web.
- [74:36]
Max
We weave the Browns, Ravens fourth, the early. No afternoon game. And then the Bengals Steelers night game on Saturday.
- [74:46]
Big Cat
On Saturday.
- [74:46]
Max
Okay, that's good. So the Bengals and the Steelers are playing before the other teams. That would have an impact on the Bengals season.
- [74:53]
Big Cat
Got it. I like that.
- [74:54]
Max
So, yeah. Then the other big note is it looks like, yeah, Bears, packers will be playing at the same time as Commanders, Cowboys.
- [75:04]
Big Cat
Yeah, they always try to link those up. And then they. And then Sunday night football, I would assume would be Vikings, Lions for the ones.
- [75:11]
Max
And that Kicks ass.
- [75:13]
Big Cat
Yeah, that does kick ass.
- [75:14]
Max
That's some kick ass game.
- [75:17]
Big Cat
Congrats. Pft. That's awesome. And that was, that was a like insane drive by Jaden Daniels at the end of the game.
- [75:23]
Max
It was.
- [75:23]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [75:24]
Max
His, his legs were great today. He took some bad shots that, that first half play where he got bent over, like his knee looked like it popped. And I ran out of the room, screamed, oh, ran back in and somehow when I came back in the room, he was on his feet and like smiling.
- [75:39]
Big Cat
Smiling. Yeah. What the.
- [75:41]
Max
Again, he leads the league and smiles. But it's, that was a true my life flash before my eyes moment. And if, if Dan Snyder was still the owner of the team, they'd be picking pieces of his PCL out of the Sean Taylor statues face mask.
- [75:55]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [75:56]
Max
Like his knee would break if Somehow, somehow every bad thing has become a good thing for the vibes. And I just don't, I don't want to touch anything or do anything, but yeah, it's, I mean, meaningful playoff football. This is pretty cool. This is pretty cool. So hopefully I get Max.
- [76:14]
Big Cat
So, yeah. Here's a recap. 12 of the 14 playoff spots are set in the AFC, Chiefs, Bills, Texans, Ravens, Steelers, and Chargers. In the NFC Lions, Vikings, Packers, Eagles, Commanders and Rams. The NFC south champion is still to be decided. Bucks and Falcons. Bucks win, they're in, Bucks lose and Falcons win, Falcons are in. And then the Broncos, Dolphins and Bengals will get the last AFC wild card spot, which it again, no offense to the Dolphins. It has to be Broncos or Bengals. I can't. Like, that would be such a bummer if the Broncos lost and the Dolphins won and the Dolphins got in. Because I feel like that would surprise a lot of people too, because, you know, it's been all about the Bengals. Yeah.
- [76:59]
Max
And then that would be a pumping.
- [77:01]
Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I think the, Yeah, I mean, if, if the Bengals get in, that's just a super awesome wild card weekend of competitive games because you got like, you have two, seven seeds that could beat the, the two seeds in the Bengals versus the Bills and the packers versus the Eagles.
- [77:18]
Max
Yeah, he's so, he's so confused.
- [77:22]
Big Cat
He's looking at the numbers, he's crunching the data and he can't figure it out.
- [77:27]
Max
The number on the left is the wins and the number on the right is the losses of each team. And right now it looks like if you look at the standings, the commanders have 11 on the left and then they only have, they got five on.
- [77:39]
Big Cat
The right in Max. It's pretty simple. So they have the same record, but the Commanders are eight and three in the conference and the packers are six and five and that's the tiebreaker. Two teams and not in the same division. The tiebreaker is conference.
- [77:53]
PFT Commenter
Got it. Yeah.
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Max
You know what, like, if, man, if, if the Eagles had beaten the Commanders, that would have helped a lot too, huh?
- [78:01]
Big Cat
Would have helped a lot. Would have helped a lot. Yeah, but, man, but the packers are.
- [78:08]
PFT Commenter
Better than the Commanders.
- [78:10]
Big Cat
Well, actually, technically they're not. No, no. Pft. Do not concede that point. You're the six seed. The packers are the seventh seed. The Commanders are better than the Packers.
- [78:19]
Max
We're seated, we're currently seated higher right now.
- [78:22]
Big Cat
But it's not even division winning. Like, it's not like a 8, 8. NFC south team is higher. Like we're. You guys are both wild card teams and you're, you are better than them.
- [78:32]
Max
You know what, though? I, I, I want to agree with Max, though. I want to say that the packers are a better team. I want, I want to encourage the hate. I want to encourage the Nobody believes in us. I feel like that's a good thing to have on your side going to the playoffs.
- [78:45]
Big Cat
This just got me so juiced up for playoff football. Oh, I mean, Packers, Eagles, first round. Holy shit. What a game.
- [78:57]
PFT Commenter
It's like, yeah, like, it's like actually.
- [79:00]
Eddie
Like the packers look like yesterday.
- [79:04]
Big Cat
The one. Imagine that, Max. One of those teams, they started their season with them and then they ended their season with them. Wow.
- [79:15]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. Yep.
- [79:17]
Big Cat
All right.
- [79:18]
PFT Commenter
Gotta be good teams in the playoffs. Gotta be good teams in the playoffs.
- [79:21]
Big Cat
But you thought you were gonna get play the Commanders first.
- [79:25]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [79:26]
Max
You got Tanner McKee.
- [79:29]
Big Cat
All right, congrats to PFT. Commanders in the playoffs. All right, let's get back to the games. Bills 40, Jets 14. Where do you want to start? Memes? Do you want to start with the jets coming out?
- [79:45]
Memes
Aaron Rodgers is a him. Him complaining to Kenny Eboa that he didn't come to the ball when he was wide open for a walk in touchdown was, was just like the epitome of the jet season.
- [79:59]
Big Cat
Yeah, I was gonna say, though, Gangsters Paradise. That was quite something.
- [80:03]
Memes
Did you see the alternate angle?
- [80:05]
Big Cat
No, what was the alternate angle?
- [80:07]
Max
I want to see every angle of it.
- [80:08]
Memes
Josh Allen just staring at him, laughing.
- [80:12]
Max
It's tough.
- [80:13]
Big Cat
What about, what about Garrett Wilson's quote? Did you see Garrett Wilson's quote? He said, I always feel like we go out there, the vibe feels right. We're ready to play. Then we get our asses kicked.
- [80:27]
Memes
Yeah, I saw that.
- [80:31]
Max
Do you want to talk about Sauce Gardner on Instagram telling T. Higgins not to come to the New York Jets? And then, and then after the game, in his post game interview, he was like, yeah, it's kind of frustrating because some guys seem like they're checked out.
- [80:46]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [80:46]
Memes
But then he, he did a fact check. He said, we already have K and Garrett, so we don't need T. Higgins. But meanwhile, if Aaron Rodgers isn't on the team, then you don't have devonte Adams, so you would need someone like T. Higgins to be.
- [80:59]
Big Cat
And. And if Aaron Rodgers is on the team, you don't have Garrett Wilson.
- [81:04]
Memes
We. We might not have Garrett Wilson. The report was could request for a trade.
- [81:09]
Big Cat
Good. And he also just went for his third straight year a thousand yards. He's awesome. You want to keep Garrett Wilson more than devonte Adams?
- [81:20]
Memes
Yeah. If it's Garrett Wilson or the other two, you let the other two walk and you let Garrett Wilson pick the bridge quarterback or whoever else.
- [81:27]
Big Cat
Oh, so now he's the gm you just fired brick.
- [81:32]
Memes
Bricks gone. We need to think outside the Xbox.
- [81:40]
Max
Memes. What do you think about. There's a big free agent coach, maybe this off season, has experience working with Aaron Rodgers and. And making him play to the best of his abilities. Mike McCarthy.
- [81:51]
Memes
I'll take Mike McCarthy in a second.
- [81:54]
Big Cat
They won.
- [81:55]
Memes
I mean, he went. What do you go, 12 and 5 up until this year? For the past four seasons.
- [81:59]
Max
Yeah. McCarthy with no Aaron Rodgers.
- [82:03]
Memes
Yes.
- [82:05]
Max
That's good. That's good. We're making progress now. My entire.
- [82:08]
Memes
My entire day during the game was looking up coaches and trying to figure out which quarterbacks are available.
- [82:13]
Max
Yeah. But do you know what you just did? You just. You did a very powerful thing, which is you mentally moved on from having the entire purpose for your next head coach be to make Aaron Rodgers happy, which is good.
- [82:26]
Memes
Yeah. No, he's got to get in line. No more ayahuasca. If he's going to be here, you have to lock in.
- [82:31]
Big Cat
Okay. I've never.
- [82:33]
Max
I've never.
- [82:33]
Memes
I've never seen someone who's so good at football just not want to play football. He's like, I'll take a break. I'll do this. I'll go to Tahoe. Just lock in. You only have certain amount of football games.
- [82:43]
Big Cat
All right, all right.
- [82:45]
Memes
The outlier. Tahoe rocks. Tahoe's in. But lock in the rest of the other weeks. You only have a certain amount of football games in Your career just lock in for that certain amount of time and then go off to Egypt after.
- [82:58]
Big Cat
Okay, that's fair.
- [82:59]
Max
Is he allowed to lock in in the off season in some random hill in Oregon?
- [83:06]
Memes
How much time? Like one day he's locked in.
- [83:08]
Big Cat
It's like 24 hours.
- [83:10]
Memes
Yeah, that's fine. But he's just gotta lock in.
- [83:12]
Big Cat
Okay. All right.
- [83:13]
Max
So he had the. The worst QBR since like 2001 of any quarterback today.
- [83:18]
Memes
Yeah, I saw that.
- [83:19]
Max
Yeah. Which, I mean, I feel like those stats are like they're created to get people talking about things. So obviously he didn't have a good game. He played very poorly.
- [83:28]
PFT Commenter
No, he's not.
- [83:29]
Max
Like, I don't think Aaron Rodgers is the worst quarterback in the NFL.
- [83:32]
Big Cat
Yeah. No, not top five in everything.
- [83:34]
Memes
No. Well, today he's top one most sacks in NFL history.
- [83:38]
Big Cat
That's true. And he also benched himself.
- [83:43]
Memes
Yeah, he should have been benched a while before that. I. I don't think Coach Ulbricht's mic is plugged in. They took your advice and just unplugged his memes.
- [83:56]
Big Cat
You're in the same spot as me that like as much as it hurts to say because I wanted Eber flu fired, you wanted Salah fired. I think we probably both would have won more games if they didn't fire the coach.
- [84:08]
Memes
Oh, 100%.
- [84:09]
Big Cat
Not, not like a ton more, but like maybe two more. Which is crazy to say, but it's probably the truth because it somehow got worse after. Like usually you get a little bounce. We got worse after firing the coach.
- [84:23]
Memes
Significantly worse. And the penalties today were so bad. I just want a coach who comes in and just teaches how not to false start or I'm blanking.
- [84:34]
Eddie
Illegal shift.
- [84:37]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [84:38]
Memes
No, it was brutal. Breeze hall would get a 20 yard run and then it'd be called back for a hold. It was just non stop. It was an annoying Sunday to describe it.
- [84:48]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [84:49]
Max
Why do they do the. The boombox right next to Aaron Rodgers going out onto the field? I feel like that should be something that's more of like a defensive thing, get the boys hyped. Instead you have it like right next to Aaron Rodgers ear.
- [85:00]
Memes
Also in that video, Garrett Wilson's nowhere to be found.
- [85:03]
Big Cat
Yeah, I. I also think PFT. It's also not a 4 and 11 team thing.
- [85:09]
Max
Yeah, probably.
- [85:10]
Big Cat
But I feel like, yeah, you got.
- [85:15]
Memes
To do whatever you got to do to get ready mentally ready for a football game. I get it. That's my dad.
- [85:21]
Max
You get to listen if you win. Yeah.
- [85:25]
Memes
I don't didn't matter.
- [85:27]
Big Cat
I mean it was 40 to nothing in this game. By the way. Shout out Mitch one for one. 69 yards. Touchdown. No big deal. Also Bills locking. Yeah. Bill's luck in the second seed. They don't have to play anyone in Week 18 and get a little mini buy. Also Josh Allen just tied the record for most rushing touchdowns for the Bills 65. Thurman Thomas. So he. He should. I hope he wins MVP. I'm personal. My personal choice is him. But I also feel like this MVP discussion is just going to get so ugly and he's been insane this year, so. And their defense, Bill's defense looked good. I don't know if that's much. The jets offense look bad. But the Bills defense did look better than they've looked the last couple of weeks.
- [86:13]
Max
Yeah. Do you think that there's a chance that the. The quarterbacks split the quarterback vote for MVP and then the block of guys who are solid Saquon guys, they pull.
- [86:22]
Big Cat
It out maybe three way.
- [86:26]
Eddie
I pft as well has have Lamar. But I feel like Josh Allen locked it up. Like I feel like if they won like kind of an ugly like you know, 14 to 3 stinker. But he played well. Had the stats. Like I feel like he pretty much locked it up today.
- [86:41]
Big Cat
But. But we've. We. We before and Hank was. Had flight issues. We made the case for Joe Burrow earlier in the. In the show because Joe Burrow is doing stuff that literally every time a quarterback's done it, they've won mvp. And. And he also pft. You just said the schedule. Joe Burrow does get a standalone game on Saturday night. If he goes off against the Steelers. And it's like the Bengals did everything they could. Like it would be crazy because you could possibly have an MVP that's not even in the playoffs. Which doesn't happen anymore. Yeah. Has that ever happened? It's happened. I. Who there was a. I gotta look it up now. But it. It's become the mvp. Kind of sucks now because it's just the quarterback of the one or the two seat. That's just what it is. But yeah, I mean it would be. He having a standalone game. Week 18 if you're Joe Burrow and you have like an entire broadcast where they're talking about you and if you go off that definitely could help him.
- [87:42]
Max
Yeah. And I think having more games like he had against the Broncos where everything else around him fails and he's the only one that that like steps up and you know, if he has to win the game three times in a row. Again, like if. If Zach Taylor accidentally ices his own kicker as he's kicking the field goal goes in, they give him the timeout, the second kick misses. If, like, more shit like that happens that he has to come back from and. And cover up, then that's good for him, too.
- [88:10]
Big Cat
Yeah. Okay. I'm looking it up right now. 97 Lions went 9 and 7 and co. MVP was Barry Sanders. I'm trying to see if there's any other ones. So. Yeah, that's probably. I mean, it doesn't happen anymore. That just doesn't happen. It's. You have to. You have to win like 12, 13 games to win MVP. So Joe Bro is probably not going to win it. Josh, I hope, wins it. Lamar probably will end up winning it because it's. Again, we talked about this. It's narratives and Lamar played a couple standalone games at the end of the season, and that's. That's how it gets decided. Okay. Anything else? Memes? I mean, did you see decision? What?
- [88:53]
Memes
Did you see Aaron Rodgers business decision on the Fumble?
- [88:56]
Big Cat
No.
- [88:56]
Memes
Yeah, He. He didn't really die for it.
- [88:59]
Big Cat
I wouldn't if I were him.
- [89:01]
Max
Yeah. I don't blame him.
- [89:02]
Memes
He gone.
- [89:03]
Big Cat
Yeah. The memes. You're. You and I are just the same, where it's just like, get. Get this hell season over with. Like, wake me up when we hire a new coach and then wake me up again at the draft.
- [89:15]
Max
Yeah.
- [89:16]
Memes
I saw a bunch of jets fans getting mad at people for saying just, I want the season to be over. Which I don't get. Because as soon as. Yeah, as soon as the season's over, you get all the new toys.
- [89:27]
Big Cat
Right.
- [89:27]
Max
You have.
- [89:28]
Memes
And then you have direction. I just didn't understand that. I think people just.
- [89:31]
Big Cat
No, that's. That makes no sense. I've wanted the season to be over for a month now. Month and a half since Thanksgiving, I've been like, get me out of this season. You've probably been longer than that.
- [89:43]
Memes
Yeah. And I'm just mad that our Tankathon, we're now at 7. I don't understand how it works.
- [89:49]
Max
It's. There's a lot of bad teams.
- [89:51]
Big Cat
You know. You know what's about the Tankathon and how they decide it. If you play a harder schedule, you should get. I guess that doesn't make sense because if you play a worse schedule and you have a bad record, that means you really are worse. All right, I get it. I understand. It makes sense. Strike that from the record, but I got mad about that too. Memes. We're the same person.
- [90:12]
Max
Yeah.
- [90:12]
Big Cat
We should just sit down and have a long talk when we get back.
- [90:15]
Max
Okay. Should we congratulate Hank though? What did Hank do number one?
- [90:22]
Big Cat
Well, I don't know if they're going to hold on to it.
- [90:26]
Eddie
Yeah.
- [90:27]
Big Cat
I have a prediction. I think the Cleveland Browns are going to get the number one pick.
- [90:33]
Max
Okay. Ravens backups.
- [90:37]
Big Cat
I think the rave. I think the. The Brown. If they start dtr. I don't. I do not think you can win a football game with dtr. The Bills are going to play the Patriots. The Bills are going to like the Bills have every. Why wouldn't they try to lose that game? Like they don't want the. The Patriots to have the number one pick.
- [90:55]
Max
Little MVP that we know as Mitch Trubisky. One for one today with a touchdown, 69 yards.
- [91:01]
Big Cat
I understand, but you don't. If you're in a division, you don't want to give them the number one pick and you have the coach trying to keep his job. So he's going to try to win that game with a rookie quarterback. And then the other one is the Titans playing the Texans. Texans aren't going to play anyone. Also a rookie coach trying to keep, you know, his job, which I don't think he should get fired, but probably trying to keep his job. I think the Browns could get the one. I think it could. I think he could. I think they could find a way to sneak in there.
- [91:30]
Max
I mean Hank haven't crazy at all.
- [91:33]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [91:34]
Max
I mean Hank, you don't. You don't necessarily need the one seed because you've got a quarterback. So if you got the one seed, you would just sell it off.
- [91:42]
Big Cat
Yeah, but I take Travis Hunter now with the.
- [91:46]
Eddie
No, I think he would trade back.
- [91:47]
Big Cat
Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
- [91:49]
Max
You'd have a bidding.
- [91:50]
Big Cat
Depends on. Depends on how much. I don't know if this quarterback class would be like people might not be trying to trade multiple one, you know, number one picks to get to trade up in this, but you could trade.
- [92:03]
Eddie
Back at least a few spots and get more picks. I'm not again, like I. We learned last year. I don't even know anything about the draft. But I, you know, today I was thinking about it. It's like there's no world where even if we have the 1 pick, we're not drafting first.
- [92:17]
Big Cat
Yeah. It just depends on what other teams are behind you and what other teams like are willing to do because like if you're not Totally sold on Shador Sanders or Cam Ward. You're not going to trade a future first round pick to move up.
- [92:31]
Eddie
Yeah, but I feel like with the. When it comes down to it, like people teams get sold on QBs.
- [92:36]
Big Cat
Yeah, you're probably right.
- [92:38]
Eddie
Sold off on QBs. No matter how good or not good.
- [92:41]
Big Cat
Good they are, you'd definitely rather end up with the number one pick than not because then at least you have all the options.
- [92:46]
Max
Then you can, then you can sell it for a shitload of money. You'll probably end up trading it to the, to the Raiders. Like Tom Brady will get on the phone with Robert Kraft and true. You'll be like, tommy, Tommy, I want to make a deal. I'll give you a discount, Tommy. Yeah. Also Shador Sanders tweeted after the Patriots lost before the Giants game. Thank you God. So maybe he's happy about the Patriots because that means he'll go to the Raiders with Tommy.
- [93:15]
Eddie
I mean Nick Wright was, was ridiculous but also kind of hilarious.
- [93:19]
Big Cat
Yeah, very funny. He. Nick Wright tweeted that. Would it be so crazy if the Patriots traded Drake May drafted Shador Sanders because they traded Drake May, they got another pick. So they trade Drake made of like the Titans, they get the 1 and 2 pick, they draft Shador Sanders, they draft Travis Hunter and then Dion's the new head coach.
- [93:40]
Max
That would be crazy.
- [93:41]
Big Cat
I mean I, I like, I like taking that shot by Nick Wright. Like that was, that was a fun shot. It makes. No, it would never happen, but it's a fun like. Yeah. Yeah.
- [93:51]
Eddie
And I feel like Dion, Dion's has made that happen the whole way.
- [93:55]
Big Cat
So. Why not? Why not? Yeah. I mean, why not? By the way, I think it's more likely that.
- [94:01]
Max
That Dion takes the Raiders job and then they trade with New England, get the first pick and get Shador.
- [94:08]
Big Cat
Yeah. Well, let's talk about the Raiders. Raiders 25, Saints 10. The Raiders might have a quarterback.
- [94:16]
Max
Yeah, AOC is pretty good.
- [94:18]
Big Cat
Scott Turner's working magic. The Raiders, they got there at like one in the morning. There was all this flight issue. I, I said that it might be a Darren Rizzy cry game. They did an insane trick play in the first half to go up seven to six. And then the Saints were like, oh yeah, I forgot we suck and we suck dick and we're going to just suck for the entire second half because Spencer Rattler played like a pretty good first half. And then it was just like, yeah, they, they just can't do anything.
- [94:45]
Max
Yeah. There's been a lot of travel Issues getting into New Orleans recently knows about it. It was, it was very surprising actually how good the Raiders looked offensively at times. At times. I say today Brock Bauer's getting the, the rookie record for tight ends beating Mike Ditka which. Which has apparently opened a lot of people's eyes to the fact that Mike Ditka was a baller.
- [95:08]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [95:09]
Max
They think Mike Ditka coach smokes cigars inside. Mike Dicka farts.
- [95:16]
Big Cat
Yeah, Mike. Mike Dick having the craziest part about that. And it actually goes back to our previous discussion where like Mike Dicka might actually be happy this was broken because everyone would be like, holy dick. Like to have a record, an NFL record stand since 1961 is insane. In a 14 game season he just got it broken. Like that's a crazy record from 1961 is a long ass time ago. And Dick had that rookie tight end record that Brock Bowers broke. Also shout out to Amir Abdullah. He's been in the league for like a decade. And I just like, I remember watching him at Nebraska being like, I like Amir Abdul is like really good running back. He had his career high rushing today. 10, 10 years in the league. Pretty cool.
- [96:02]
Max
I, I think we can say that AOC has at the very least earned himself like a high tier backup spot somewhere.
- [96:10]
Big Cat
Yeah. Like the Dolphins should, should, should pay AOC like $6 million a year. Yeah.
- [96:15]
Max
With the. Understand that you'll probably start six to.
- [96:17]
Big Cat
Seven games, 10 to 12 games.
- [96:20]
Max
Yeah. The Colts, they should sign them.
- [96:23]
Big Cat
Yeah. The culture. Yeah.
- [96:25]
Max
Memes. What do you think about AOC on the Jets? Is the town big enough for two AOCs?
- [96:30]
Big Cat
Nope. Nope. Okay, last early game. Jags 20, Titans 13. God bless anyone who went to this game because I actually, I'll say something nice about this game. I actually enjoyed watching it a little bit because it was a throwback game in the fact that when either quarterback tried to scramble, it was the funniest thing to watch like ever. And it reminded me of like 90s NFL where like the quarterbacks could not move whatsoever. And Mac Jones and Mason Rudolph, every time they tucked it and ran, it was like watching the game in slow motion. And I got a little, I got a little chuckle out of that.
- [97:13]
Max
Yeah, it's kind of nice. I, I like this game because it ended so fast.
- [97:17]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [97:18]
Max
I think it was the first, the early slate and it was, it beat the other games with like eight minutes left in the fourth quarter. So good job speeding us through this one. Also Hank, we should, we should ask Hank for his comments On Jimmy Carter because we talked about President Carter a little bit. He passed away. I think this game killed him. But instead of like really doing a recap on it, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the man.
- [97:39]
Eddie
Not a great president.
- [97:41]
Big Cat
Thank you, princessa. Okay. Also two other notes from this game. Brian Thomas is awesome. He's only the fourth receiver four. Fourth rookie receiver ever to go 1100 yards, 10 TDS. The other three, Odell Beckham, Jamar Chase and Randy Moss. So pretty good company that he's going to be a pretty damn good pro. And the Titans made history in this game. They are the first team in NFL history to not cover the spread in 14 games in a regular season.
- [98:16]
Max
Wow.
- [98:17]
Big Cat
They are 2 and 14 against the spread. That is insane.
- [98:22]
Max
Good job.
- [98:22]
Big Cat
They make. They make that spread. Like you should be able to cover half the spreads.
- [98:28]
Max
Who do they play in the last week?
- [98:30]
Big Cat
They play the Texans. So they should. They could win that game.
- [98:34]
Max
This is a game where they might around and win.
- [98:36]
Big Cat
Yeah, I think they will. That's my Brown's theory of the Browns somehow getting the number one pick.
- [98:42]
Max
Yeah. Also Big Cat. I don't know if you've been able to keep an eye on Max for the last like 15 minutes, but he's still trying to figure out these numbers.
- [98:50]
Big Cat
Torture chamber. He can't figure it out.
- [98:52]
Max
It's been 15 minutes of him staring at a screen trying to make numbers change.
- [98:56]
Big Cat
Max, what did you find?
- [98:58]
PFT Commenter
I know, I'm. I'm just looking. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine.
- [99:02]
Big Cat
You got you. You're a Cowboys fan in week 18.
- [99:06]
PFT Commenter
It's literally. I think I would rather play any other wild card team except for the loser of Vikings. Vikings line.
- [99:15]
Big Cat
So you'd rather play one other wild card team? There's only three wild cards.
- [99:20]
PFT Commenter
No, I'm including first round wild card weekend teams in the nfc.
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Big Cat
Okay. But you can only play the wild card teams because you won the division. So the only choices, Commanders and Vikings and Lions. And you said you would rather play any other team.
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PFT Commenter
I would. I wouldn't. Saying I would also rather play either Falcons or Bucks. And I would also rather play the Rams. But why do I have to play the Packers?
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Max
But they're the Falcons and the Bucks aren't wild card teams. They. They won the South.
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Big Cat
I get it. I don't think you get it. I don't think you get it.
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Max
I get that you'd rather play a division winner, whether that's the Falcons or the Bucks over the Green Bay packers, who is a wild card. We. I get that. And. But that's how, that's how the seating works. You win your division and you're not a wild card. If you don't win your division, then you become a wild card team.
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PFT Commenter
I'd also rather play the Texans. I'd rather play the Steelers. Rather play the Chargers.
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Big Cat
Oh, Max, this is so sad. Come on, I'll get you pumped up.
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PFT Commenter
Yeah, we're gonna. We already did beat the Packers. We'll beat them. Beat them again.
- [100:35]
Max
Yeah.
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Big Cat
All right, real quick, wrapping up before we talk about packers, Vikings, Dolphins, 20, Browns 3. I, like I said this on Friday, but if they keep making DTR play NFL games, just keep betting against him. I don't know. It's. It's just. It's just an atm. He's not an NFL quarterback.
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Max
What do you think practice is like? Do you think that. That the team is so bummed out going into Sunday because they've had to practice with him for a week and they just know that we have no shot?
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Big Cat
Yeah, I think so. It's. It's a great guy.
- [101:06]
Max
Seems like.
- [101:06]
Big Cat
Seems like a nice guy. Loved watching him at ucla. Awesome college quarterback, not an NFL quarterback.
- [101:12]
Max
It's mean at this point. It's mean what the Browns are doing to him.
- [101:15]
Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah, it is. And then Snoop Huntley was pretty good. He actually was really good.
- [101:21]
Max
He was okay. He. He hit Tyreek. Tyreek still alive.
- [101:26]
Big Cat
Yeah. This was such a classic, like, shitty weather, like, Cleveland game where the. The Browns defense hung, hung around as long as they could. And then it's like, yeah, we don't. We don't have any way of winning this game. I think they got stopped. A 10 point game. They got stopped on like, like the 10 yard line. It was just so sad. So sad to watch.
- [101:49]
Max
Yeah. Miles Garrett played well. That's about it.
- [101:52]
Big Cat
That's it. That's it. Okay. Vikings 27, Packers 25. Hole. And I'm tape. I'm tweeting out right now. We're currently taping pmt and Max just realized Eagles have to play the packers and it's broken his brain. Broken it. Is that fair to say? Max.
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Eddie
Max is good.
- [102:12]
Big Cat
Gone.
- [102:13]
Max
He's. He's trying to find a brain repair.
- [102:17]
Big Cat
It's broken his brain. It's. This is the most defeatist attitude I've ever seen in someone like you, Max. They have to come to the link.
- [102:29]
PFT Commenter
I had to pee. Why?
- [102:31]
Big Cat
They have to come to the link.
- [102:34]
PFT Commenter
No, I know. I feel good. I feel good. I just had to go pee. I feel good.
- [102:43]
Big Cat
Here's what I'll say to you. Vikings 27, Packers 25. First of all, the Vikings are awesome. Sam Darnold was incredible today. His one mistake, that interception, next drive went five for five. The end of the game when they need a first down to end the game. And Kevin O'Connell is trusting Sam Darnold to throw the ball. That says everything about it. Like they. It's not Sam Darnold. Like jets Sam Darnold. I know that this is is old news, but like that was the final piece where it's like, no, no. They're trusting him in big time situations to win this game. And even with Cam Akers who I forgot he was still around, had like two huge last catch he made was insane. And then he scored that touchdown. The Vikings are really, really good and I'm excited to watch them play The Lions. Week 18 for the one seed. The one thing that you have to be scared about if you're a Vikings fan is the thing you've been scared about your whole life. Because the kicker. I've never seen someone not look like they're up for the big moment more than that guy. He's a barstool intern kicking in an NFL game.
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Max
Yeah, he's got the SEC swoop haircut, looks nervous. He's a little too pale.
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Big Cat
It's crazy. Did you get Hanks? Have you seen this kid? All right, I'm gonna send you a picture. I want your reaction. It's. It's like, it's torturous for Vikings fans because I really do think their team is good enough to go to the Super Bowl. And then they have this guy, Will Richard, who kicked for Alabama and he's like a decent kicker. He missed a couple kicks today, but it's just his face, his face makes me think that he is going to be the guy who makes kick for.
- [104:25]
Eddie
Bama though that's a good. At least. Like he's been through it all right.
- [104:29]
Max
Yeah, he got his ass chewed by Nick Saban a few times.
- [104:34]
Big Cat
I mean, Hank, that guy's lining up for a big time kick.
- [104:38]
Eddie
I mean he's a kicker. It's like it's kickers still.
- [104:42]
Big Cat
They showed him on the sideline. He was wearing the metal wedding ring, which like, I don't even like I don't think you're supposed to do in case you like your finger breaks or something. But he's like, I'm never going to get into any physical contact. Listen, I, I hope that I'm Wrong. Because I did. Like, that would be just so. But, like, Vikings fans have an insanely good team. Their defense is good. Sam Darnold's playing out of his mind. They have one of the best receivers, and that's your kicker. And he missed. He missed one easy one today.
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PFT Commenter
Guy.
- [105:10]
Max
This guy looks like a perfect mix of Spider and Jack Mack.
- [105:17]
Big Cat
He's like, oh, man. But the Vikings are really good. And Kevin O'Connell should be coach of the Year.
- [105:25]
Max
He should be coach of the year. Sam Darnold. That was a cool moment when he walked into the locker room after the game and his whole team was waiting for him. You forget how many players are on the NFL roster. But he walked in, it sounded like a full auditorium cheering for him. Then they picked him up on their shoulders. That must be one of the best feelings ever. Like, you win a hard game, and then all your boys are like, we love you. What's better than that? Not a lot.
- [105:47]
Big Cat
Nothing. Not a lot. That's it.
- [105:49]
Max
Have you guys ever been picked up on someone's shoulders, like in a Rudy type moment?
- [105:54]
Big Cat
I don't think so. No. Rough.
- [105:55]
Eddie
Rowdy. You guys. You guys. You guys picked me up after rough. Morati. That was elite.
- [105:58]
Big Cat
I think I hurt my back doing that.
- [106:03]
Max
That was.
- [106:03]
Big Cat
Yeah, we gotta. We gotta pick our boys up more.
- [106:05]
Max
Yeah, we should start doing that more often because. Yeah, Hank, I remember lifting you up after that. You were very sweaty, but I was mostly just happy that you weren't dead.
- [106:13]
Big Cat
Yeah. I'll throw this out there because our. Because our boy's down right now. He's going through it mentally. I think if the Eagles beat the packers in the first round, we should pick up Max, carry him off. Yep. We should carry him out of the gambling key. Yep.
- [106:27]
Max
Yep. No, we'll do that.
- [106:30]
Big Cat
Yeah, we're gonna do that. We're gonna do that.
- [106:32]
Eddie
Not if it's the Commanders.
- [106:35]
Max
Yeah, it's gonna be against the packers.
- [106:37]
Big Cat
If the Commanders will be a house divided.
- [106:40]
PFT Commenter
No, we're gonna. We're gonna beat the Packers.
- [106:42]
Max
We're gonna be. How about. How about if it is Eagles commanders? Winner of that game gets picked up.
- [106:49]
Eddie
You can't put that on me and Big Cat Shoulders. I mean.
- [106:52]
Big Cat
No, we'll need some help.
- [106:56]
Max
Yeah, I would not. I would not help pick you up.
- [106:58]
Big Cat
Well, no. Pft.
- [106:59]
Eddie
If Commanders win, I'll pay.
- [107:01]
Big Cat
I'll pick them up with one hand.
- [107:03]
Eddie
Yeah.
- [107:05]
Max
Throw me over your shoulder like a stack of potatoes.
- [107:09]
Big Cat
The. All right, so Max, here. Here it is. And I alluded to this earlier. I'm no longer worried about the Packers. They're a good team. I think though they're not an elite team. They are.05 against the best teams in the NFC. That's the Vikings, the Eagles and the Lions. They make a lot of like, like their offense looks. Josh Jacobs has been great this year. Jordan Love. And maybe it was Christian Watson being out, but he did not play well until, you know, like late. And he needed to, they needed to score fast. Like he, it just doesn't, it just doesn't look as smooth as you would like it to look going into the playoffs. Also, the whole. What's going on with Zaire Alexander? Did you see him after the game? He had the big hat, which I pretty sure has not been cool for like five years now. And he was like, if I was playing in that game, we would have won that game. That doesn't, that can't really help. Right? Like, that's not something you really want to have a guy who hasn't played in like a month to be saying.
- [108:08]
Max
Post game, was he wearing the cheese hat or.
- [108:10]
Big Cat
No, he was wearing like the big, the funny big hat.
- [108:14]
Max
Right, Right.
- [108:15]
Big Cat
That. Yeah. But I, I don't think, I think the packers could like, maybe win a first round game against like an Eagles, but I don't think they can go to the Super Bowl.
- [108:24]
Max
Right. They're a little bit flawed, but they can run the football.
- [108:27]
Big Cat
They can, they can start slow, though. They did it again where they started slow. They scored three points in the first half and it's like, it's very like, you can't do that in the playoffs. You can't have a slow start in the playoffs. And that's happened a lot for them this year where they've started slow and they had to play catch up and it's like that's in a, in a, in an elimination game. Like, you just can't do that for three rounds.
- [108:49]
Max
Yeah, they, they've got their issue. I don't think that they're an elite team, but I think, like, I, maybe it's because every time they play a good team, they play them very close.
- [108:57]
Big Cat
They do.
- [108:57]
Max
And I'm like, one or two things go the other way and they win that game, but one or two things don't go that way.
- [109:04]
Big Cat
Yeah, I did like Lafleur going for it when they were down 11. He went for, he went for it for two to make it nine, which I like that. That was a good move by him. He's learning.
- [109:16]
Max
Tom Brady was perplexed by that he had no idea why that was going. He's like, well, I'm glad that it worked, because if it didn't, that'd be bad. Yeah, that's kind of the deal. Like, it worked and it actually put them mathematically where they wanted to be. Yeah, it was like, I think more coaches should do that, but they had no idea what was going on the broadcast. Also, did you guys listen to Tom Brady say the word sax?
- [109:39]
Big Cat
Yeah. What was that about?
- [109:41]
Max
He says it like socks. You took some bad socks. I think somebody at some point told him that when you say sex, it sounds like you're saying sex. So really announce. Really pronunciate the, ah, part of socks.
- [109:57]
Big Cat
Can someone play it? He had a tough day. I'll say it. He had a tough day. He started the broadcast and he was like. Like, I think it literally started. I think he was saying something about the Packers. He's like, the packers have lost to this team. This team. And then he's like, and what was the other team? It's like, how did you do a stat that you didn't even. You didn't even know the other end? And I think he's gotten better since the beginning of the season, but today was maybe not his best day.
- [110:18]
Max
Yeah, there was. There was one time where he called out exactly who was going to blitz, even though he wasn't lined up in a blitz formation. And I was like, okay, all right. That was. We're. We're doing something now. Tom. He's gotten a lot better. Yeah.
- [110:29]
Big Cat
Yeah. Do you have the clip? I want to hear it. Memes. You have it.
- [110:35]
Max
You muted memes.
- [110:36]
Memes
Yep, I got it.
- [110:38]
Big Cat
He's held on to the ball quite a bit this season, and he's taken a lot of socks. Like almost 46 socks. It's like a Cali girl thing. Yeah. Like socks. This season alone.
- [110:52]
Max
So many socks. Why are you taking so many socks?
- [110:58]
Big Cat
Yeah, I'm max. You're gonna beat the Packers. Don't worry. You're gonna beat the Packers. They can't be good teams, and they.
- [111:05]
Max
Don'T have to play the packers in the playoffs.
- [111:07]
Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah. But if they do, if the Eagles do have to be better than the.
- [111:11]
Max
Commanders, Eagles have to play them.
- [111:15]
Big Cat
That's true. That's true. And the Vikings, Kevin O'Connell's coach of the year, Sam Darnold's. I. I saw there was a report that they're. I mean, they're basically. They have to keep him at this point, maybe franchise tag him. He's been awesome and again, it was like the end of that game when you, when you need a. And I know Aaron Jones was, was hurt, but, like, still you're like, sam Darnold is going to win us this game. Throwing the ball in situations where most teams would just try to run it up the middle three times and hope they get a first down. Sam Darnold passed twice and yeah, he's. It was the, the thing that finally. And I've already believed in Sam Darnold. If you remember, we had that clip from three years ago where pfd you're like, I'm not done believing Baker. And I was like, I'm not done believing in Sam Darnold. So I've always had that in my head where I'm like, ooh, Sam Donald. But that, that drive after the interception, like that. Nothing rattles him now, like, yeah, he made a bad throw. Okay. And then he went right down the field and was hitting everyone and it was 5 for 5 and scored a touchdown.
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Max
Yeah. It's like they, they haven't had a whole lot of games where they've gotten Addison Jefferson and Hawkinson going at the same time. All the Suns and today they were all weapons.
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Big Cat
And Nailer.
- [112:25]
Max
Yeah, Nailer. How about Naylor, huh?
- [112:27]
Big Cat
Yeah, he was awesome.
- [112:29]
Max
Their offense is a problem. Is Aaron Jones hurt? That was weird when he took himself out of the game.
- [112:34]
Big Cat
Yeah. And then cam anchors. Yeah, it was, was good.
- [112:37]
Max
Okay, wait, so this is for Sam Darnold. He sets a record now. This is the most wins for a quarterback in his. In his first season with a new team.
- [112:48]
Big Cat
Oh, wow.
- [112:49]
Max
It's never been done before. 14 wins and he wasn't supposed to be the starting quarterback going to this year.
- [112:54]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [112:54]
Max
Which is, I mean, good for him. I wonder how good Daniel Jones is getting just like absorbing that room and just being in that building. Because right now I feel like that room.
- [113:05]
Big Cat
Yeah. Room. You're like Daniel Jones.
- [113:09]
Max
Yeah. I feel like that's a good, that's a good room to be. You get better just by living with like, in the, in the same zip code as Kevin O'Connell.
- [113:17]
Big Cat
Yeah. Kevin O'Connell is the QB whisperer. He's coach of the year and he is going to get paid a lot of money because I think he has like two years left on his contract. You got to re. Sign him right now. He's one of the best coaches in the NFL and that's. He wins all the close games and the Vikings are a real threat. And I, I. With the way the Lions have Been injured like the Vikings are. I feel like they might win that game on Sunday and get the one seed, which is crazy.
- [113:43]
Max
They could. They very easily could. So, yeah, this is. What was the stat that we said the other week? There have been two 14 or four 14 win seasons in the history of the Minnesota Vikings and Koc has two of them.
- [113:57]
Big Cat
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the 98 season with when they went 15 and one that was. And they lost the NFC championship game to the Falcons.
- [114:08]
Max
What do you think about their. What do you think about the extravagant defensive celebrations for the Vikings?
- [114:14]
Big Cat
Listen, these guys got to have fun, too.
- [114:17]
Max
Yeah. This most recent one felt like it was like a minute and a half.
- [114:21]
Big Cat
Yeah. It was quite. It was quite extravagant. It was very well planned.
- [114:24]
Max
The entire defense was involved. It's like the movie Basketball where the refs get involved with the dance too.
- [114:30]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [114:30]
Max
Just kept going. And it was also, I was watching two separate pregame shows today on NFL Network and espn and they both had long features on the Vikings touch or defensive celebrations.
- [114:44]
Big Cat
That's when you know it's gotten pretty out of hand.
- [114:46]
Max
It's gotten pretty out of hand at this point. But I guess, I guess they're not going to stop it. So if they're having fun, good job.
- [114:53]
Big Cat
Yeah. Okay, let's wrap up. Before we do, who's back of the week? Roback? Rhobac.com promo code Take 20 off your first purchase. Q, zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code Take my rollback. Question is, Hank, did you write a boomer? I did. Can you read it to us in a monotone voice?
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Eddie
Yeah.
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Big Cat
Okay, great. That's what we were hoping for.
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Eddie
I wrote this. This is a rage boomer too. So I, I haven't, I haven't gone back to it.
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Big Cat
Wait, so what was your. Tell us your travel day again so people understand.
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Eddie
I, I will say this. Listen. I, I was in. In. I traveled from San Diego to Houston to New Orleans. Along the way, I had two flights get delayed. My bag got sent to Frankfurt, Germany.
- [115:46]
Max
How does that happen?
- [115:48]
Big Cat
Is it your golf clubs?
- [115:50]
Eddie
No, no, not my golf clubs. But it's close. That's the thing. The people, the people that I was with on the plane were so much more stressed out. And there was like a. When I, we landed in Houston, the lady. Because we stopped and we got, we just got stuck on the Runway for like an hour. And because they couldn't, there was no open gates. I guess there's construction going on at the airport. It was chaos. And so when we finally get to a taxi, the lady, like, behind me was like, does anyone have a connecting flight? And everyone, like, she was trying to, like, push up. Every single person was like, yeah. Like, everyone was on edge. There was a lady in front of me in a wheelchair. And so, like, I'm.
- [116:28]
Max
I'm.
- [116:28]
Eddie
I'm taking my time. And there was people behind me, like, being like, you know, run. Like, people were on edge, sprinting through the airport, like, really upset. Like, I was obviously, like, not loving it, but also not, like, you know, perspective. I was like, it's not that serious. Not that big a deal. And then I realized my. My bag got sent to Frankfurt, Germany. I'm pretty sure that the person in front of me was going to Frankfurt, Germany. And, like, when she scanned her thing, they just, like, gave me her tag and put that on my bag. I don't really know. That was kind of what I came up with, but it's not. It's not that big a deal. But it was, like, just a long day. But the. The people. People sprinting through the airport is kind of a funny, like, people watching experience. Like, just. People were flying. People were upset. The lady tried to push her way up the flight. So I had a long day, whatever. And then after all that, I was riding my boomer in the. In the cab ride to my hotel.
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Max
Okay, so what was in your bag? That's in Germany.
- [117:30]
Eddie
Just close.
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Max
That's.
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Eddie
So it's like, I. I actually have my boxers and my toiletries with me, so it's like, all I need to do is go. I need to go buy. And I have my laptop and stuff, so, like, all the expensive stuff I have with me, I. The lady did kind of, like, make me check my bag. She was like, oh, can you just check it? Like, it's a big bag. Like, you have two big bags. I was like, but it's a carry on. She's like, yeah, but it's a full flight. Like, just check it. I was like, where does it go to? She's like, it goes to your final destination. I'm like, all right, whatever. I wish I had, like, pushed back, shot that down.
- [118:03]
Max
But, yeah, but this just means that you're. You. Your punishment is that you have to go out in New Orleans and buy sick outfits.
- [118:10]
Eddie
Yeah, I'm gonna go get some fits off tomorrow. And, yeah, I have having boxers and, like, toiletries in my laptop and stuff. Like, it's. It's really not.
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Big Cat
Not.
- [118:18]
Eddie
It's not too. Too bad. It was Just a long, like, the lady was like, I'm like, I'm pretty sure. Like, she's like, well, this isn't your tag. I'm like, it is my tag. It's a tag that gave me whatever it was. It was a long day.
- [118:29]
Big Cat
Okay, go ahead.
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Eddie
Monotone.
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Big Cat
Yeah.
- [118:37]
Eddie
Justin. Herbert Hoover said, Damn, that was smooth. After a jazzy first quarter touchdown to Darius Miles Davis, Drake Mayflower led a voyage down the field and connected with it's a Mia DeMario Douglas for a touchdown in the second half. Lad McConkey said, I'll be your wish, I'll be your dream. I'll be your fantasy championship winning wide receiver, scoring two touchdowns along with 94 yards to make a lot of people very happy. Patriots 7, San Diego Superchargers 40. This team could make some noise in the playoffs. Boom.
- [119:16]
Big Cat
Oh, I like it. Hey, the Texans. That was very good, Hank. What did you think about the game? There was a lot of booze. It feels. We discussed it earlier, but like, Gerard Mayo, like, he should be fired.
- [119:32]
Eddie
That was a good for. For Gerard Mayo getting out of town. Like, that was best case scenario. I was with my brother. We were like. It was like that was kind of what we wanted where it's like, we were with my brother and some of our friends who aren't Patriots fans, and they're like, do you want them to win? We were like, we want them to get smoked. We want Drake man to play well, but we want them to get smoked to the point where it's like, get him out of town.
- [119:51]
Big Cat
Right, Right.
- [119:52]
Eddie
And that's what happened.
- [119:53]
Big Cat
Yeah. Pft.
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Max
Yeah. Hank, do you think that Mr. Concussions. What's that?
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Eddie
Drake may got another concussion?
- [120:02]
Big Cat
Yeah.
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Max
Yeah. Do you think. Do you think Mr. Kraft was a little bit upset and wanted to call a timeout to hate when all the fans were booing his coach?
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Eddie
He was probably upset, but that's probably like a good thing.
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Big Cat
But.
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Eddie
Yeah.
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Max
Who is he upset at, though? Do you think he's more upset at Mayo or you think he was more upset as his fans.
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Eddie
Because, like, he's got a.
- [120:25]
Big Cat
He's. He's.
- [120:25]
Eddie
You know, I feel like rich guys, like, they, they. They're surrounded by yes men. It's like situations like that, they force you to look in the mirror.
- [120:33]
Big Cat
Kraft is in that camp like Jerry Jones where I think embarrassment actually works.
- [120:38]
Eddie
That's what I'm saying. Like, they're surrounded by so many yes men that, like, you literally can't look at anyone else but the mirror when it's like, oh, like this. Yeah, this is bad.
- [120:47]
Big Cat
Like, George McCaskey embarrassment doesn't work because if it did, he would have quit. He would have, like, sold the team a decade ago. But, like, Kraft definitely is like, this is. And yeah, I mean, that. That was a perfect game for you.
- [121:03]
Eddie
Minus the concussion.
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Big Cat
Minus a concussion, which he came back two.
- [121:07]
Eddie
Yeah, he did come back, but two concussions in a year, not ideal.
- [121:11]
Max
Yeah, that deep ball that he threw to what's his name, Pop DeMario. Yeah, that was. That was an awesome pass. And for recognizing, like, hey, free play replay. There's been. There's been enough of Drake May where you're. You're excited now, right? Like, this is your guy.
- [121:29]
Eddie
Yeah. We just got to do it one more time. And then. Then we. Then we control. We have. We have everything.
- [121:34]
Big Cat
You got to lose one more time, which I think you're going to win that game. Yeah, I. I think. I just think the Bills are going to, like, wouldn't. If you're. If you're the Bills, you. You should not start anyone. Right. Of any significance. I just don't.
- [121:50]
Eddie
I don't think, like. And I could be wrong. I don't think that the next season. Interdivisional, like, that's a. I feel like that's a fan thing to think. Like, I don't, like. Do you think Sean McDermott's that five head of a coach to be like, no, we don't want our interdivisional opponent to, like, get the first pick, because that's going to screw us in the future. Like, they have to. They. Even if they think it, they have to game plan to win.
- [122:16]
Big Cat
Here's. Here's where it comes to play. I agree with you. I don't think they go into the game being like, we're going to. Because you can't really tank in the NFL. You can't tell guys, like, we're going to try to lose.
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Eddie
Right.
- [122:25]
Big Cat
If it is close at all in, like, the fourth quarter, I think that's when it's like, they'll just run the ball up the middle and be like, it's fine. You know what I mean? Like, play as conservative as possible and not tank or try to lose, but do everything that, like, lets the Patriots win the game. Yeah.
- [122:44]
Eddie
Because the Giants, that game was. You're watching, you're like, all right, like, if they are tanking, they're gonna find. But they just kept winning.
- [122:50]
Big Cat
No, you can't do it. You can't. The only time you can do it is, like, the second half of week 18. That's really it, because guys are playing for their jobs and so. And you also can do it in a situation where it's like you can actively sit all your starters. Like the Bills. The Bills aren't tanking. They're playing, you know what I mean? They're playing for something going forward. So it's like they can sit all their starters and be like, we're doing this for safety's sake.
- [123:13]
Max
Right.
- [123:14]
Big Cat
And, and lose that way.
- [123:15]
Max
But I think the issue is that Sean McDermott is a very good coach.
- [123:19]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [123:19]
Max
Of course the backups are going to be playing hard, obviously, because this is their chance to prove something on tape. And also they will have been coached up by a very good coach who's coaching them to win the game. He's not going to like, coach them to lose the game. He's going to try to win the game with his second string players. And Jared Mayo is not as good of a coach, but he's really trying.
- [123:40]
Big Cat
To win the game.
- [123:41]
Max
Really trying. But McDermott is, I think, a good enough coach where he could beat the Patriots with very, very hungry second stringers.
- [123:49]
Big Cat
Actually, this is what you should be hoping for, Hank, because it's. Gerard Mayo has proven that he's such a bad coach that if he's trying extra hard to win the game, that's probably bad.
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Eddie
I feel like everyone knows he's just not right.
- [124:04]
Big Cat
But if he. But like it's like you're. If you're trying that hard and you're bad at your job, it's only gonna amplify the bad. Like, you don't want someone who's bad at their job trying like extra, extra hard Pimmons. You want them to just, just be.
- [124:23]
Eddie
Yeah, I would hope that the, like that decision has been made already. I think. I think it was like there's been three coaches that have the number one pick that have actually like used it all time. The coach that was the coach the year they, you know, ended up with the number one pick that was still the coach the next year.
- [124:48]
Big Cat
I don't know. That's right. I mean, Eberflu did look up that stat.
- [124:57]
Max
I mean, you might be right, but that seems like it's not enough.
- [125:03]
Big Cat
Yeah, that doesn't. Well, I guess we'll think about it. All right.
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Eddie
So only three teams drafting number one did it with the same head coach as the previous year, the 77 Tampa Bay Bucks. No, but it. This is weird. The. I guess this is from a Twitter account that.
- [125:22]
Big Cat
Oh, maybe it's because the Bears technically had the Panthers pick. Oh, that's probably why. That's exactly why. Yeah.
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Eddie
77 Tampa Bay Bucks, the 1992 Indianapolis Colts, and the 2017 Cleveland Browns. Yeah, that was also not potentially a reliable source, but it is the one that I saw.
- [125:39]
Big Cat
Okay. That works. Yeah. It makes sense. If you have the number one pick.
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Eddie
Your coach probably seven. I don't know that that's like. That's official.
- [125:47]
Big Cat
But. But the eber flutes thing is that. That makes sense. It wasn't their pick. It was the Panthers pick.
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Eddie
Yeah.
- [125:53]
Big Cat
So he, you know, were the three teams. Hank.
- [125:57]
Eddie
1977 Tampa Bay Bucks, the 1992 Indianapolis Colts, and the 2017 Cleveland Browns.
- [126:03]
Max
Did the Cowboys not draft first after they went again?
- [126:06]
Eddie
This is Uncle Buck2617. So *. *.
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Big Cat
Okay. Asterisks. Should we do who's back of the week? Yeah, who's back of the week? It's brought to you by ourselves. Pardon My Cheesesteak Football is in full gear, and ordering Pardon my Cheesesteak for your game day meal or late night eats is the best play call you can make. Pardon My Cheesesteak brings you awesome cheesesteaks and loaded fries delivered right to your doorstep. And we'll be offering free delivery throughout the entire football season. Take your pick of our delicious cheesesteaks made with fresh, thinly sliced steak, melted provolone, mouth watering cheese sauce, and caramelized onions on a toasted hoagie roll. You can order the popular big cat combo. Get your cheesesteak of choice, fries, and a drink. Find a part of my cheesesteak near you and order yours now@pardonmycheeseak.com use code AWL for free delivery. Hank, who's back of the Week?
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Eddie
I mean, I'll just say it. It's 11:40. I ordered like a hundred dollars of room service when I got in this hotel room two hours ago, and it's not here yet.
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Max
I'm.
- [127:05]
Eddie
I'm starting to get concerned and I'm so. That's starving.
- [127:08]
Big Cat
That's the who's back of the week.
- [127:10]
Eddie
Nope. My other who's back the week was club hall. I just needed to get that out there because I'm. I'm dying inside. My other's back league was club hockey.
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Max
Okay.
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Big Cat
Oh, because of what team was it?
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Eddie
UNLV?
- [127:25]
Big Cat
Yeah.
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Eddie
Acha M1, which is Club hockey, which is like every college has their actual hockey team. And then club hockey team, which is kids that played in high school that like, you know, get drunk and play club hockey, which is fun. They beat NCAA D1, defending national champions University of Denver 76 in a shootout. In a shootout, which is like.
- [127:49]
Big Cat
That is.
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Eddie
That is the dream. That is like, that is why you play sports. That's what it's all about. Like, a club hockey team beating the reigning D1 national champions is like, that's. That's everything.
- [128:02]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [128:03]
PFT Commenter
To be fair, I think club hockey is a little bit different than other club sports.
- [128:08]
Big Cat
Oh.
- [128:09]
PFT Commenter
I think that. I think that there's, like, D1 Club is, like, higher. I. I don't know exactly what it is, but I remember talking to a hockey person who played club.
- [128:19]
Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah.
- [128:20]
Eddie
Probably a club hockey person that's like, yeah, no, club hockey is legit.
- [128:24]
Big Cat
No, club baseball is not legit. I have my roommate.
- [128:28]
PFT Commenter
I played baseball.
- [128:30]
Big Cat
Yeah. And he would. I would, like. He'd have a game, and he would, like, wake up at noon and, like, don't you have a game? He'd be like, yeah, I'm skipping today. Like, oh, I have.
- [128:40]
Eddie
I have a lot of friends that play club hockey at UMass. They would say it's legit. I would. I. It is legit. But, like, it's still.
- [128:47]
Big Cat
It's a crazy upset. It's clubhouse.
- [128:49]
Max
Probably, like, club rugby, because a lot of schools don't have varsity rugby teams. Actually, like, almost all of them don't have varsity rugby teams. But the. The club level is, like, the highest that you can get besides, like, four schools. So they're good players. And it's probably the same for hockey. Like, you don't have a varsity program, and you're in a good area. You can still probably get good players, but it's not like.
- [129:10]
Big Cat
But, you know, a hockey hotbed, I would imagine.
- [129:16]
Eddie
I mean, I'm a club. I. I love club hockey. Like, shout out to Clocky. But I, like. I don't. I don't. I'm not gonna. Like. It's not.
- [129:24]
Big Cat
It's crazy.
- [129:25]
Eddie
Hockey team beating the D1 national champions is an insane story. I don't. I. There's no world where it's not.
- [129:31]
Max
Yeah. It's all the time. Boys are buzzing. Boys are buzzing for, like, two years off that one.
- [129:36]
Big Cat
Yeah, sure. For life. Absolutely. All right. Pft. Year. Who's back?
- [129:42]
Max
We're just talking hockey today because my. Who's back is Alex Ovechkin. He came back from his broken leg, scored two goals in two games. First was a sick empty netter. Second one was more of a real goal. But now he's 25 away. From breaking Gretzky's record. So my original projection of January 23rd in Edmonton, that's been revised. And I think I'm gonna. I'm gonna release my official. My game. I'll do it on Wednesday as part of my take. I'll pick out a game on the schedule where he's going to break the record. But he could do it this year.
- [130:13]
Big Cat
Yeah. Friday is part of my take. We don't have a show on Wednesday.
- [130:16]
Max
Good point. Friday is part of my take. Happy New Year.
- [130:19]
Big Cat
Yeah. Happy New Year. All right, my. Who's back is bowl season. Let's talk about some college football quarterfinals. Also, shout out the Pop Tarts Bowl. That was awesome. Everything they put into that, like the Strawberry Pop Tart coming back from the dead. I saw Eddie and Clem were down there, our guys. It looked like the coolest time. Also, anyone who's upset about Cam Ward is a loser. And they're just basically looking for something to be angry about. Malik Neighbors did the same thing last year. No one was upset about it. He played in until he got a record, and then he sat out. I guarantee you that the entire Miami team knew that Cam Ward was going to play until he got the record and then sit. And I know that because I bet Iowa State because everyone was talking about how Cam Ward was not going to play the whole game. So, like, it was not a surprise that he sat out. And I get it. People are like, oh, well, you're watching your guys battle out there. He's also got millions of dollars on the line if he gets hurt. Like, I. I don't understand it. Are people just coming around to the fact that bowl games are, like, they don't really mean anything, and. And it's entertainment. And it's like, it's. It's kind of stupid, but it's also fun. Like, I. I don't understand that. I don't understand why people are mad at Cam Ward.
- [131:32]
Max
They had a edible mascot on the field.
- [131:37]
Big Cat
Right.
- [131:38]
Max
And we're mad at the guy for sitting out the second. Not the whole game, the second half. The second half of. Of that game, which was fun. And if. Especially if you bet the over. Because I feel like there were 42 points scored.
- [131:50]
Big Cat
Yeah.
- [131:51]
Max
In the first, like, six minutes of the game. Yes. So we're mad at a guy for putting literally tens of millions of dollars on the line to not play in the second half. That's exactly right. I saw. I saw one guy say they should find him, that the University of Miami should find Cam Ward.
- [132:09]
Big Cat
There's no way, there's no way that everyone on that team didn't know the plan. Like, it just wasn't. It could not have been a surprise because again, I somehow like, like heard through the grapevine that was probably going to happen. Like, how is that it? There's just no way. And not only that, if you were a person who complained about the College Football Playoff being blowouts, and in the same token, said Cam Ward, sitting out is bullshit, I. You make no sense to me. Because this is what the college football like, the. If you, if you're like, oh, 12 teams is too many, at least it's more games where guys aren't going to sit out. And I have no problem with Cam Ward sitting out because guess what? That's like. These games ultimately don't mean anything. When a guy's projected to go top 10 in the NFL draft, like, he's got to take care of himself. Every single person in that situation would do the same thing. But the College Football Playoff at least makes it so more of these games that this doesn't happen. So you should, you can't be, you can't argue both those sides. In my mind, that's when it's going.
- [133:09]
Max
To get weird is if somebody does that in a playoff game.
- [133:11]
Big Cat
Well, Boula, yeah, he's transfer portal, but.
- [133:15]
Max
A little bit different. But if somebody is like projected to go high in the draft and doesn't want to risk injury in playoff games and then they sit out, then I feel like that side would have like a little, A little more to complain about because you're playing for a national championship and the rest of your team would probably like you to play in a meaningful game. But yeah, in the Pop Tarts Bowl. Who gives a fuck? Sit out.
- [133:35]
Big Cat
Who gives a fuck?
- [133:37]
Max
I'm shocked. He played it all.
- [133:38]
Big Cat
I know. Well, he wanted the record, which is cool. And also if you're a Miami player, like, you get to say that you were on the team that had a record, that's pretty cool. If you're an offensive lineman, you're like, yeah, I blocked for the record breaking quarterback. That's pretty awesome.
- [133:52]
Max
Yeah.
- [133:54]
Big Cat
I think that means more probably in like 20 years than it does like, we didn't win the Pop Tarts Bowl.
- [134:00]
Max
Yeah.
- [134:00]
Big Cat
Although the Pop Tarts bowl is awesome. All right, so any, any picks or thoughts?
- [134:05]
Max
Because I was gonna say one other thing from. From the Bull weekend. The confetti stuck to Matt rules face. I think it's still there.
- [134:12]
Big Cat
Yep.
- [134:13]
Max
I don't know how they got that many pieces. That was a bad boy mower game, right?
- [134:18]
Big Cat
No, that was the Pinstripe Bowl.
- [134:20]
Max
Pinstripe Bowl. And yeah, his, his daughter looked so embarrassed to be next to him when he had like nine. Just like, take him off your face, dad. But that was fun. Good for, for Raiola. Good for Will Compton.
- [134:34]
Big Cat
Yeah. Nebraska's back. Go Big Red. All right. So, Max, are you. He's still thinking about the Packers. Are you at all worried about Boise State?
- [134:50]
PFT Commenter
Yes. Yes, because it's Boise. Yes, because it's Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl. That's, that's, that is why. That is why I'm nervous about Boise State.
- [135:01]
Max
Because of history.
- [135:02]
Big Cat
That makes sense. I lost so much on that game when I was, I don't know, I was probably like 19 years old. I was like, Oklahoma versus Boise State.
- [135:11]
Max
I think Penn State's easy draw is adding to the confusion for Max of how come the Eagles don't get the same easy draw.
- [135:18]
Big Cat
Yeah, that's fair. I think, I think you'll be okay. I do think Ashton Jenny will do well. I'm rooting for him to do well. I, I, the game. I'm actually most excited. Well, the Rose bowl is going to be awesome. I think I'm going to take Ohio State in that game. And it's mostly based on the uniforms that Oregon picked. I didn't really like them. I thought they should have done more classic.
- [135:40]
Eddie
Oh, I love them.
- [135:41]
Big Cat
You love them?
- [135:42]
Eddie
Love them.
- [135:43]
Big Cat
I don't know. The Rose Bowl. I need classic uniforms, especially Ohio State. Oregon.
- [135:48]
Max
No, with Oregon, it's like the crazier the uniforms are. They're almost more Oregon.
- [135:53]
Big Cat
Yeah, I could see that. I'm going to probably take Ohio State in that game. I'm probably going to take Notre Dame in the Georgia game. And then I'm very excited for Arizona State, Texas, because I don't know if you guys saw Sam Levitt, like, basically doing the thing you're not supposed to do with bulletin board material and being like, I'm going to prove that I'm the best quarterback in this game. Something about Arizona State and I feel like, I feel like they're going to run Shark Wheel to start the game. I don't know. I feel like it could happen.
- [136:24]
Max
Are we counting just a normal wheel route as being Shark.
- [136:27]
Big Cat
Any wheel route. I'll just say it's Shark Wheel.
- [136:29]
Max
Okay.
- [136:30]
Big Cat
Yeah, that's all. Yeah, it's, it's all it takes. But are you guys, like, what games, by the way? We're streaming the, the January 1st game. So we'll be in the gambling cave for those.
- [136:40]
Max
I, I'm leaning towards Michigan or. Sorry, not Michigan, Georgia. I don't know why I'm leaning towards Georgia. Yeah. Against Notre Dame. I don't know. I, I feel like the athletes that they have, especially on defense, like when.
- [136:52]
Big Cat
They play well, they're really so schizophrenic.
- [136:55]
Max
You just don't know if you're going to get good Georgia or bad Georgia.
- [136:58]
Big Cat
Yeah, Notre Dame's defense is good and they did lose. I think they lost one of their good defensive linemen, which definitely hurts. I, I don't know. These games are going to rock. Like everyone who complained about the first round. I think we're going to get some great games.
- [137:10]
Max
I, I really over the. Over in Texas. Arizona State too. Just rooting for points and chaos.
- [137:15]
Big Cat
Yeah. The early game on January 1st. I'm just. And the fact that Rose bowl, like a classic Rose Bowl. I know they're two Big ten teams, but that's going to be awesome. I'm so excited for that. Anything else? Oh, Georgia memes. You gonna win this game?
- [137:33]
Memes
Yeah.
- [137:35]
Big Cat
Okay. There it is.
- [137:36]
Max
You heard it here?
- [137:37]
Memes
No, I. I think it's going to be a good game. Notre Dame losing their defensive end is huge.
- [137:43]
Big Cat
Massive. Massive. Yeah.
- [137:45]
Memes
I'm a little worried about Mike Bobo. I saw his. His press conference. I wasn't fired up about that.
- [137:50]
Big Cat
Why? What did he say?
- [137:52]
Memes
He gave a pub up speech to Gunner Stockton that he. That said. I told him to just be him and I'll be me and you just be you and Kirby be Kirby.
- [138:00]
Big Cat
Gotta be ourselves. Saying your names. Yeah. No.
- [138:08]
Memes
Slightly worried about my Bobo, but I. I think they'll get it done.
- [138:11]
Big Cat
Okay. Anything else we got? Like I said, we have no show Wednesday. We'll be back in person though on Thursday. We'll recap all of the games. We'll have a show on Friday. We'll be back in studio previewing week 18. Congrats again. PFT on making the playoffs.
- [138:29]
Max
Thank you.
- [138:30]
Big Cat
Max. Baby, playing the packers is going to be tough. We can do this, Max.
- [138:36]
PFT Commenter
I also, I'm through my research. I will be a hard commander's hater.
- [138:44]
Big Cat
Yeah, you got to be a Cowboys fan. Yeah, you got to be a Cowboys fan.
- [138:47]
Max
I get it.
- [138:48]
PFT Commenter
No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying research. No, no, I'm saying in the Rams commanders game.
- [138:54]
Big Cat
Why?
- [138:56]
PFT Commenter
Because then you. If the Rams win that game, the Eagles would avoid. If the Eagles beat the packers and the. And the Rams beat the Commanders, then the Eagles avoid The Vikings or Lions.
- [139:11]
Big Cat
Got it.
- [139:13]
Max
Yep. Yeah.
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PFT Commenter
So now I'm kind of back in on that. On that scenario.
- [139:17]
Max
Yeah. Because then the commanders would be the lowest seed still available.
- [139:23]
PFT Commenter
Correct. So the Viking. No, I'm not.
- [139:29]
Big Cat
Right.
- [139:29]
Max
He's right. So Rams beat the Commanders then. And the Eagles win the seven seed. The packers get eliminated.
- [139:36]
Big Cat
Correct.
- [139:37]
Max
The commanders are now the lowest seed. So they would have to play against the number one seed.
- [139:42]
Big Cat
Yeah. Yes. And the. And the. And the. But you could play the Bucks, too, Max.
- [139:49]
PFT Commenter
No, but I'm saying if the Ram.
- [139:51]
Eddie
You gotta be good teams in the playoffs.
- [139:52]
Big Cat
Yeah, Max, you got to be good teams.
- [139:54]
Eddie
Something you're starting to realize.
- [139:56]
Big Cat
It's crazy how fast you gotta beat.
- [140:00]
Eddie
Everyone you should be expecting to beat. Like you're. You're gonna play the one seed. Like you're realistically gonna play the. The one seed at some point. So you're gonna have to beat them.
- [140:08]
Max
Yeah. Anyone, anytime, anywhere.
- [140:11]
Big Cat
Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Pfc. You're ready for the playoffs, Max.
- [140:15]
PFT Commenter
Yeah. That's a team that has no aspirations.
- [140:19]
Max
To do anything except for beat the best teams. Max, you want to be handed a Super Bowl? Max, You. You want to play against the Denver Broncos in the Super Bowl?
- [140:28]
Big Cat
Max, you want to beat. You want to. You have to root for the Cowboys on. On Sunday. You realize that you're a Cowboys fan on Sunday?
- [140:41]
PFT Commenter
Yeah, I don't know. We'll say no. We'll play who's in front of us. Give me the package.
- [140:45]
Big Cat
I'm worried about.
- [140:47]
Max
His brain is right now.
- [140:48]
Big Cat
The one thing that really does suck about this is if the packers beat the Eagles. I'm just completely taking. All the joy that I would have of a Max loss is just completely gone. Like, I'll be just as miserable as Max.
- [141:01]
Max
I'll be happy.
- [141:04]
Big Cat
We can do this together, Max. We're gonna do this together. I'm gonna put a bomb on the Eagles.
- [141:11]
Memes
The Packers.
- [141:12]
PFT Commenter
Let's go to the numbers.
- [141:13]
Memes
Bob Salah since last time they played.
- [141:16]
Big Cat
That's true.
- [141:18]
Memes
Jalen Hurts had his worst game against him last year.
- [141:20]
Big Cat
Oh, wow.
- [141:23]
Memes
But I'm on your side if you play the packers because he's on there.
- [141:26]
Big Cat
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Let's kick it to ourselves. Let's do numbers, and we'll see everyone on Friday. Okay, Last numbers of the year. Numbers three.
- [141:37]
Max
11, 25, 17, 70.
- [141:43]
Big Cat
I don't like what you did.
- [141:45]
Eddie
71.
- [141:47]
Big Cat
Wait, Jack, what was your number?
- [141:50]
Max
15. 54.
- [141:58]
Big Cat
54.
- [142:03]
Max
Love you guys the entire year. Sa.