Podcast Summary: Passion Struck with John R. Miles
Episode 695: Don Martin on Why We’re Never Meant to Go Through Life Alone
Date: November 27, 2025
Guests: Don Martin, author & podcaster
Theme: The Loneliness Crisis – Dismantling Myths and Reframing Connection
Overview
On this special Thanksgiving edition of Passion Struck, John R. Miles is joined by author and podcaster Don Martin to explore one of the most urgent yet misunderstood aspects of modern life: loneliness. The episode, released in the midst of a series called "The Irreplaceables," delves into the deep-rooted human need for connection, the causes and consequences of loneliness, and actionable steps toward more meaningful community. Don Martin shares insights from his forthcoming book, Where Did Everybody Go?, combining personal revelation, social history, and sociological data. Together, they challenge stereotypes—including who gets lonely, the impact of technology, and the myth of a "male loneliness crisis"—while offering hope and practical advice.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Purpose of Loneliness and Reframing the Narrative
- Loneliness as a Biological Signal
- Don explains loneliness is not a character flaw but an evolved survival mechanism, akin to hunger or thirst:
“If hunger tells us that we need to eat and thirst tells us that we need to drink, loneliness tells us to seek other people.” (09:58, Don Martin)
- Don explains loneliness is not a character flaw but an evolved survival mechanism, akin to hunger or thirst:
- Loneliness Is Universal and Subjective
- Everyone has a different "threshold" for connection; you can feel lonely surrounded by people or not lonely when physically alone.
- The crucial factor is the gap between desired and actual connection.
“Loneliness is basically the disparity between the amount of social connection that you want and the amount…you are getting.” (11:50, Don Martin)
2. Common Myths and Cultural Misunderstandings
- Loneliness Isn’t Just for the Elderly
- Contrary to popular belief, young people—especially teenagers—are often the loneliest, a truth backed by decades of data and overlooked societal structures.
- The Problem Isn’t Screens
- Society has historically blamed new technologies for disconnect, from TV to the telephone to air conditioning.
“We even blamed loneliness on the written word… It’s not screens… they’re not causal. They can be symptoms, but they're not causal.” (15:47, Don Martin)
- Society has historically blamed new technologies for disconnect, from TV to the telephone to air conditioning.
3. Structural Causes of Disconnection
- Loss of Third Places (Malls, Churches, Neighborhood Spaces)
- American society’s shift toward isolated, car-centric suburbs has eroded "third places" where spontaneous connection happens.
- The American mall’s decline symbolizes the erosion of community infrastructure.
- True third places foster mixing of strangers and regulars, a dynamic that malls never fully achieved.
“The American Mall isn’t and never was a third place... We've decided which version of capitalistic enterprise fits with our version of nostalgia.” (33:00+, Don Martin)
- Fear and Safety Culture
- Since 9/11, U.S. society has taught children that strangers and the unknown are to be feared, exacerbating disconnection and chronic loneliness in young people.
4. Health Crisis and Global Perspective
- Loneliness as a Public Health Issue
- Loneliness raises the risk of early mortality and a spectrum of physical and mental health issues.
- While the U.S. has been slow to act, countries like Britain and Japan acknowledge loneliness as a national crisis.
- Not Just a Western Issue
- The loneliness epidemic is global, though some societies mobilize resources and attention sooner or more effectively.
5. Challenging the “Male Loneliness Crisis” Narrative
- Don refutes the notion that men are disproportionately affected, as mainstream data shows similar rates between men and women.
- He highlights how this "crisis" is often weaponized in online communities but is not supported by research:
"The male loneliness crisis is a myth. It is made up by dating podcasters mostly… The data tells us pretty consistently that men and women experience almost exactly the same amount of loneliness." (23:55, Don Martin)
6. Impact of Intersectionality: Marginalized Communities
- Queer Individuals & People of Color
- Marginalized groups face deeper, structurally induced loneliness due to social exclusion, but they are also adept at building alternative, resilient communities.
- This resilience helps explain historic and ongoing efforts to create safe spaces, even in the face of institutional exclusion.
7. The Role of Storytelling & Expertise
- Don uses storytelling as a way to make daunting topics accessible, hopeful, and actionable:
“If we start off by talking about Animal Crossing, if I’m a little self-deprecating… reframing things in a way that feels accessible, approachable and uplifting… you can learn how you matter inside of all of it.” (47:10, Don Martin)
- Passion for expert knowledge and curiosity drives the quest for solutions and human connection.
- People are hungry for authentic expertise and constructive leadership, not simply "answers."
8. Practical Steps toward Connection
- On reimagining community, Don shares an insight from urban planning:
“Move the garage behind the house… Even that little bit of time going in and out your front door, waving at neighbors—… we’re not getting that anymore…” (49:20, Don Martin)
- Both John and Don discuss their personal experiences living in neighborhoods where architectural design fosters increased connection and safety.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On the evolutionary role of loneliness:
“It’s more like a biological imperative… Loneliness tells us to seek other people.” — Don Martin (09:58)
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On young people and loneliness:
“Whoever the current youngest generation is, they're the loneliest people. Why? Because we don't have a place for them in society.” — Don Martin (16:11)
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On blaming technology:
“We blamed loneliness on air conditioning, we’ve blamed loneliness on bedrooms… They can be symptoms, but they're not causal.” — Don Martin (15:47)
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On the myth of a male loneliness crisis:
"It literally is rooted in telling young, specifically cisgender heterosexual white men that the reason that you can't get a date is because the world is actually conspiring against you… That's a myth." — Don Martin (23:55)
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On what would make future communities less lonely:
“I would move the garage behind the house… Encouraging one another to literally just spend time with each other.” — Don Martin (49:20)
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On the importance of community-level impact:
“Real impact isn't necessarily made at the national or international level, it is most often made and felt most deeply at the community level, at your street level, in your home.” — Don Martin (47:00)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Don's entry into podcasting and media shifts:
07:20–08:45 - Lockdown as personal wake-up to loneliness:
09:21–11:32 - Defining loneliness and how it's measured:
11:50–13:01 - Loneliness in crowds and the limits of proximity:
13:01–14:49 - Debunking cause-and-effect myths about technology:
15:03–17:51 - The youth and loneliness crisis:
18:11–19:42 - Global scope of the problem:
19:59–21:12 - Biological roots—loneliness as a life-preserving signal:
22:32–23:31 - Mythbusting the male loneliness crisis:
23:55–25:44 - Decline of malls and third places:
29:44–37:52 - Remaking community design (garage placement):
49:20–53:45 - Intersectionality and marginalized communities:
40:21–43:03 - Role of storytelling and personal impact:
45:54–48:38
Final Takeaways
- Loneliness is a shared, normal, but urgent human experience—it's an adaptive signal, not a personal failure.
- Meaningful connection is about quality, not quantity. The structure of our neighborhoods and cultural attitudes toward "outsiders" deeply influence our sense of belonging.
- Blaming technology alone is a red herring; social disconnection has much deeper, historical roots.
- Creating and sustaining safe, accessible “third places” and intentional neighborhood design remain crucial remedies.
- Reframing loneliness as a call to action, not isolation, helps empower individual and community change.
Where to Find Don Martin
- Website/Links: By Don Martin
- Podcast: Head on Fire (available across podcast platforms)
- Social: @bydonmartin (TikTok, Instagram, Threads, YouTube)
Memorable Moment
"You can talk about the big scary stuff in life and your... willingness to learn about it matters because you matter." — Don Martin (47:10)
Whether you're alone or surrounded by others, this episode is a reminder: to be human is not to avoid loneliness, but to know we're never meant to face it in isolation.
