Passion Struck with John R. Miles – Episode 512: Dr. Deborah Egerton on How to Read Your Enneagram Chart
Release Date: September 26, 2024
Introduction
In Episode 512 of Passion Struck with John R. Miles, host John R. Miles welcomes Dr. Deborah Threadgill Egerton, affectionately known as Dr. E, to delve into the transformative power of the Enneagram. As an internationally respected psychotherapist, certified Enneagram teacher, and pioneer in inclusion, diversity, equity, and anti-racism (IDEA), Dr. E brings over two decades of expertise to the conversation. Her latest book, "Enneagram Made Easy," serves as a cornerstone for today's discussion, offering listeners practical insights into personal growth, emotional intelligence, and building stronger connections.
Personal Beginnings and Commitment to Belonging
Dr. E opens the conversation by sharing personal experiences that shaped her mission to foster a sense of belonging:
Dr. E [01:01]: "Even though I wasn't always treated as if I belonged, I knew I belonged. I knew that people who were treating me differently... that there wasn't anything wrong with me."
She emphasizes the importance of internal recognition of one's worth, stating:
Dr. E [02:12]: "You have to know within yourself that you belong on this earth, that you belong in the places that you choose to show up..."
Her early experiences with exclusion galvanized her commitment to teaching others about belonging and combating societal "othering."
Defining Passion Struck and Its Unique Approach
John R. Miles introduces Passion Struck as a podcast dedicated to intentional living, setting it apart from other personal growth shows that focus solely on hacks and habits. The podcast seeks to answer deeper questions about fulfillment and meaning:
- Creation of Meaning: "You don’t find meaning—you create it."
- Fulfillment from Within: "Fulfillment isn’t external—it’s built from within."
- Life Through Choices: "The life you want isn’t ahead of you—it’s in the choices you make today."
Exploring the Enneagram with Dr. E
The core of the episode revolves around understanding the Enneagram as a tool for self-awareness and personal transformation. Dr. E elucidates how the Enneagram differs from other personality assessments by focusing on underlying motivations rather than surface behaviors.
Key Insights on the Enneagram:
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Ancient Origins and Modern Adaptation:
- The Enneagram symbol predates Plato, with roots in ancient spiritual traditions.
- Modern psychology, particularly through the work of Claudio Naranjo, has transformed it into a blueprint for the soul.
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Nine Personality Types:
- Body Center Types (8, 9, 1): Focused on action and control.
- Heart Center Types (2, 3, 4): Centered around emotions and relationships.
- Head Center Types (5, 6, 7): Driven by intellect and anxiety.
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Understanding Happiness and Stress Points:
- Each type has growth (positive influence) and stress (negative influence) points, guiding individuals on how to thrive or cope under pressure.
Personal Stories and Anecdotes
Dr. E shares heartfelt anecdotes that illustrate her commitment to kindness and belonging:
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A Stranger's Kindness [10:30]:
"A stranger stepped in to stop my child from being bullied, even though they didn't know us. That act of kindness was priceless and affirmed my belief in kinetic kindness—kindness in action."
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Tribute to Norm Mineta [14:08]: Dr. E recounts her relationship with Norm Mineta, highlighting his authenticity and compassion:
"Norm never tried to be someone that he wasn't. He was just Norm. His kindness and empathy for humanity were incredible."
These stories underscore the profound impact of genuine kindness and authentic relationships in fostering a sense of belonging.
Applying the Enneagram to Intentional Living
John R. Miles and Dr. E discuss how the Enneagram serves as a roadmap for living intentionally and aligning with one's authentic self. They explore practical applications and offer guidance on using the Enneagram for personal growth.
Notable Quotes:
Dr. E [42:03]: "The Enneagram is designed to assist you on that journey back to yourself... it's the operating manual that you wish you had been born with."
John R. Miles [55:28]: Reflecting on his Enneagram results, John shares his journey towards self-discovery, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's dominant type and its implications.
Practical Advice for Listeners
Dr. E provides actionable steps for listeners seeking to feel more intentional and connected:
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Internal Work Over External Solutions:
Dr. E [32:16]: "Go inside and not look for the solutions externally, but to do the work internally."
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Embracing Authenticity:
Dr. E [36:17]: "Don't try to be someone else... do the work of mining your inner landscape to find who you truly are."
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Using the Enneagram for Self-Discovery: Engaging with the Enneagram helps individuals understand their motivations, fears, and desires, enabling them to make conscious choices aligned with their true selves.
Connecting Enneagram to Spiritual Growth
The conversation seamlessly ties the Enneagram to spiritual development. Dr. E articulates how understanding one's Enneagram type can deepen one's faith and spiritual practice:
Dr. E [64:47]: "The Enneagram is designed to undergird the faith that you already have... it helps you to understand your flawed self and accept yourself exactly as you are."
She emphasizes that the Enneagram fosters a compassionate and intentional approach to living, enhancing both personal and spiritual well-being.
Conclusion and Key Takeaways
John R. Miles wraps up the episode by highlighting the transformative insights gained from Dr. E's expertise on the Enneagram:
- Self-Awareness: The Enneagram offers a profound understanding of one's motivations and behaviors.
- Emotional Intelligence: By recognizing different types, individuals can enhance their empathy and communication skills.
- Intentional Living: Aligning daily actions with one's core values leads to a more fulfilling and purposeful life.
Listeners are encouraged to explore Dr. E's book, "Enneagram Made Easy," and consider joining her Authentic Self Journal Club for deeper engagement.
John R. Miles [68:53]: "The Enneagram is such a powerful tool for personal growth, emotional intelligence, and building stronger connections."
Final Thoughts
Episode 512 of Passion Struck serves as a comprehensive guide to understanding and utilizing the Enneagram for personal and spiritual growth. Dr. Deborah Egerton's heartfelt narratives and practical advice empower listeners to embark on a journey of self-discovery, fostering a life of intentionality and belonging.
Remember: Embrace your unique personality type, use the Enneagram as a tool for deeper self-awareness, and live intentionally to create a life that truly matters.
Connect with Dr. E and explore more about the Enneagram:
- Book: Enneagram Made Easy
- Website: deborahegerton.com
- Journal Club: Available on her website
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