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Seth Payne
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Seth Payne
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Luke Morrow
The conversation going on in the sports world this week, that's really annoying me.
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Seth Payne
I'm intrigued to hear why this is annoying you. I've got my guesses.
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Luke Morrow
Yeah, Payne and Pender guess. By the way, I'm Luke Morrow in for Sean alongside Seth Payne. I just think it's stupid. The first part there. There's a few things I'll try to get to in this segment, but the main conversation is, look, Shohei Ohtani hit 300 homers, I should say hit his 300th career homer this week. And people are saying, now you know Shohei Ohtani is the greatest baseball player of all time. And it's the same week that like Messi or the same couple weeks here that Messi's doing things in the World Cup. And people are saying like, hey, he's the greatest soccer player of all time and LeBron's a free agent. And I won't have that debate. But Some people believe LeBron is the greatest basketball player of all time. And it's this conversation that we've been having the last few years where like, what an amazing time to be alive. Can you believe it? What? We have the best baseball player right now. We have the best basketball player, soccer player Patrick Mahomes is the most talented quarterback of all time and they're all playing at the same time. How blessed are we as sports fans in this current era to get all the best? Yeah, and my point is, isn't everything the best right now compared to the past? Like a hundred years ago you would have to wait a week to find out if everyone's eyes were open or not in a photo.
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Seth Payne
And.
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Luke Morrow
And now you can take 47 stupid selfies and delete 46 of them because you thought your hair looked weird in the photos. Like, everything is better now.
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Seth Payne
And part of that though too is that when you're. There's such a recency bias in saying that somebody is the best of all time, it's so easy to sit and say, oh yeah, Pat Mahomes is the best of all time without really thinking about it too hard. And like, no, like people will push back against that. You can make plenty of arguments that he's not the best of all time again. And it's ridiculously easy to do it. But the other part of it too is to your point about how, yeah, you have all this content available to you all the time. Look, it's not like there weren't great soccer players playing in the past. It's just they weren't mentioned in the same breath as our American sports that we're watching, you know, or the more the major league sports in America that, yeah, at any given time, in any given decade, there's a bunch of great athletes playing in their respective sports. But, yeah, so, but, but it annoys you that people are sitting down and appreciating it?
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Luke Morrow
Well, yeah, because like, oh, you're telling me that today's athlete is better than the athlete from 80 years ago. You had a full time job and like, you know, oh, once they, once
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Seth Payne
they stop, they have. You mean once athletes stopped smoking cigarettes at halftime and they started actually devoting it, treating it like a full time job, that they're better now? Oh, yeah, sure, yeah.
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Luke Morrow
And we have better, like just weight training and nutrition and these guys hire coaches because they have more money than athletes used to have. You know, athletes used to have off season jobs and everything. It's just, it's the fact that we have these conversations, we marvel, like, how amazing is this?
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Seth Payne
Yeah, yeah.
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Luke Morrow
Well then you must be amazed too that we have TV now. We can actually watch things in our home when they couldn't do that a hundred, like everything is better, everything is easier now. The athletes should be better. And in 2026 than any other era because they have so many more resources and tools and everything else.
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Seth Payne
Yeah, the whole what a time to be alive thing, you know, every. People always like to say, like, I was born in the wrong era. I would. I should have lived. I should have lived in the 1700s. I did. And I'm like, yeah, enjoy. Enjoy dying because you scratched your leg on a nail at the age of 17 or whatever. Enjoy. Enjoy not having sewers and whatnot in your city. That, yeah, things are, things are generally better now in a lot of ways than they were before. The. When it comes to the athletes, the athletic side of things, it just, it's dawned on me as man, people are just having all these debates about youth soccer and how they need to change the developmental academies and all that stuff. It's. I think honestly, 30 years ago, people just like, there just wasn't as much of a. There wasn't as much of this feeling or this need that my kids got to be a professional athlete. It's the most important thing in the world. And why. Why is he not. I think sports in general have just taken more importance in more people's lives and occupy a bigger part of their day that you used to just, you used to be able to. Especially before sports radio, it was. You could see highlights on the nightly news, you could read about it in the paper. And. And then beyond that, it was really just a whole lot of water cooler conversations and things like that. So there just wasn't as much available to you. So now the superstar guys, they do just get amped up that much more and they're more in your face from all of these different outlets that it feels like, oh, wow, we're living in the golden era of all these superstar athletes. Well, yeah, there wasn't, there wasn't really the, There wasn't really the machine that was spitting out the. All the PR on these superstar athletes back in the day.
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Luke Morrow
Yeah, that too. You know, and a good thing for those guys, guys like Joe DiMaggio back then and what he was up to.
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Seth Payne
Imagine DiMaggio and Marilyn Monroe. How annoying that would be today.
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Luke Morrow
Oh, my God.
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Seth Payne
We would be so disgusted. It would all be like, oh, great. Oh, the NFL's are the major League Baseball. There they go. I got to watch Marilyn Monroe 29 times during this game.
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Luke Morrow
Yeah.
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Seth Payne
And then there would be a backlash against Marilyn Monroe.
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Luke Morrow
Yeah.
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Seth Payne
People would be sending her pharmaceuticals in the mail. Yeah, it's, it's, it just, it was always existed. Yeah, there was a. Okay, Joe DiMaggio or any of those old baseball players at their given time, were they considered, like, was it, were people saying, like, well, they're the best for now, but 100 years from now, there's going to be this Japanese fella that might supplant him. So don't enjoy this too much.
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Luke Morrow
Yeah. It's just you referenced Louis CK earlier this week. He has a great bit of how people take flying for granted and how, you know, back in the day you used to have to the Oregon Trail, it would take you months to go across country and not everybody would make it alive. Like, you knew going in, like, we're going to lose some people, but we'll eventually get there. And now, as he says, like, you, you know, you use the bathroom, you watch a movie and you're cross country in a couple of hours. And yet.
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Seth Payne
And you whine about it the entire time.
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Luke Morrow
Yeah.
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Seth Payne
There's a complaint about your food not being good enough. Yeah, exactly.
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Luke Morrow
Rocket across the air or the Internet cuts out on the plane, you know, floating through the sky.
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Seth Payne
That's legitimate. That's a legitimate beef. Because I pay this. My old rule is I, if I pay first world dollars, I will complain about first world problems. That's, that's a, that's, that's true in any, that's true in any era of history. I paid a doubloon for this. I expect, I expect satisfaction.
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Luke Morrow
Okay, that's fair. Depending on how much you make, I should say how much you pay, I could get behind that. Here's the other thing I dislike with this whole argument, too. Shohei Ohtani might be the greatest baseball player of all time, but when, when you compare him to Babe Ruth, I always hate. And we do this all the time of like, well, Babe, have you seen the people Babe Ruth played against? Yeah, but Babe Ruth is also from that era. It's not like we took Shohei Ohtani and dropped him in the 1920s and was like, yeah, but did you see the, we do the same thing with March Madness every year where we're like, yeah, but that mid major, you know, they, they only beat Mac teams compared to this team that went 500 in the SEC. Played a lot of better teams, you know. Yes, but they're playing with mid major players. They don't have SEC talent. But you're only, you're, you're playing your peers and you're so much better than your peers. Babe Ruth was so much better than everybody else in the league at that time that that's what makes him Impressive. It's not like, well, you know, he was a fat guy with stubby legs. He's not as athletic as the current guys, but he was playing on a level playing field outside of, obviously the segregation, but a level playing field amongst athletes in Major League Baseball at the time.
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Seth Payne
Well, then, no. And that's even too like, if you look at football and you look at, you know, footage from the 60s and 70s, you think, oh, these guys could never play in the NFL. Look at them. I go ahead and just like, meet Robert Brazil in person and tell me that with the benefit of modern weightlifting and everything, he wouldn't be one of the, one of the most incredibly physically impressive. And this guy, I've only met Robert Brazil in person after he was already a, you know, a relatively old man. And he still kind of scared me because he's so damn big. Yeah, those guys, if you just transport them forward in time and they do everything the same way guys are doing. Yeah, they're, they're gonna be, they would be more impressive physically.
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Luke Morrow
It's more impressive that Babe Ruth would eat a bunch of hot dogs and drink a bathtub of beer in the hotel every night and then go out and club these Longhomers. I think that's more impressive than the guys that, you know, take such great care of their bodies today and pull off these athletic feats.
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Seth Payne
Yeah.
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Seth Payne
Yeah, they have the most international players, whereas the majority of fans in America watching are English speakers. That I. I was thinking about this while I was watching Jordan the other day in an interview, is a really good interview, but he's doing, you know, he's giving his answers through an interpreter, but he also, you know, he listens. He's one of the guys that listens to the questions in English and understands it and then uses an interpreter to give the answer. I do. I totally understand why guys do that. Like, guys, some guys that speak pretty good English but still know that it's not polished these days, they're hesitant to give quotes to reporters, partly because they just want to be sure that they get the answer right. And then it's also. It's just too easy for people to make fun of that or to take it out of context or whatever. But it does. It kind of removes. It puts a little bit of a barrier emotionally when you don't actually see and hear and guy see and hear the guy, you know, speaking directly to you as often.
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Luke Morrow
Yeah, certainly. Yeah. So I think that's a good point.
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Seth Payne
The one. Oh, it was the Athletic writer from back. I'm blanking on who the player was. I'll look it up. During the break, somebody. Somebody basically put a verbatim quote from a Spanish speaking player who's doing the interview in English with the Astros. And it ended up like, it was kind of shady. Like, it ended up making him look like he was stupid, you know? And like, ever since then, I've been like, yep, I totally get it. I can see why guys that don't speak perfect English are just gonna just. You know what? I'm gonna have my interpreter handle it. And there we go.
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Luke Morrow
Yeah, that happened with another player in baseball this year. Where Spanish speakers on Twitter were saying, like, that's not what he said. Whatever. The interpreter said, I never.
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Seth Payne
I need to be clear to everybody. I'm not talking about Chandler Rome. It was a previous writer. It was. So, yeah, yeah, we'll. We'll.
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Luke Morrow
We'll try to effort that someone on the text line said. So we're talking about a dominance margin. Yes. That's a good phrase for it. That Babe Ruth was so much more dominant compared to the rest of his peers at the time in Major League Baseball, that. That's what makes him so special.
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Seth Payne
Yeah. Not a dominance margin. I like that. Yeah, yeah. Like, it doesn't. Don't try to comp apples to oranges. Compare the apples to the apple.
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Luke Morrow
Exactly. That's why I always say it's very annoying. Somebody said, yeah, I don't know how people could have lived in Texas with no AC back in the day.
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Seth Payne
I don't get it at all. It's incredible. I don't understand how people do. I don't. I'm so soft now. Yeah. I think about that. I had to. I had. I had to. When I was sleeping in my car on a long drive and I was like, in Alabama or something, and I was like, all right, I'm just going to pull over the rest area, and I don't want to leave my car running. That lasted about five minutes, just sitting and sweating it out in my car. I couldn't do it. So to spend my life that way, I wouldn't have made it. I would have dehydrated and cramped up and died out on the trail.
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Luke Morrow
Oh, me, too. And that's what I'm saying. It's so much easier. Everything's better today. Everything's easier. Air conditioning back then for Jay Gatsby was his handkerchief, and it was so much different. And I do love the autocorrects we get sometimes where your don turned into your dawn on the text line. So appreciate that. Speaking of baseball and the Astros, when we come back, what's the Astros biggest need at the deadline right now? And do you actually want them to be buyers at this point? We'll talk about it next. Payne and Pendergast.
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