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Have we seen this version of the Jaguars before and is actually a bad thing for the Houston Rockets? We'll get to that here on Payne and Pendergast. I'm Luke Morrow in for Sean alongside Seth Payne. You can always join the conversation on the text line 713-572-4610 or the YouTube and Twitch chats as well. Are the 2026 Jaguars like the 2018 Jaguars? If you hop into the time machine and think back, that was so in 2017 that's when they get to the AFC title game. Should have won. But you had Blake Bortles as the quarterback.
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Yeah, the interception that was ruled down, that was nullified. The pick six, right? Yeah, right.
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And it was they led that game I think in the second half and the offense just didn't do anything and Patriots snuck by so they should have been in the Super Bowl. Sounds familiar to what we've been saying here in recent months. But they had a really good defense. He had Blake Bortles. Different style of team. Obviously I would take Trevor Lawrence over Blake Bortles, but my point being after that 2017 season it was so good they said let's just run it back. And that's when they gave Bortles a new contract and they made the biggest addition that offseason was adding a guard to their offensive line. They let Alan was Allen Robinson. They let him walk in free Agency somewhat similar to ETN or hn, the running back who left the Jaguars and they felt like, hey, we were so close to getting to the super bowl, let's keep this team together. And the following year they went 5 and 11 and, you know, blew up that team eventually. Somewhat similar to this year where the Jaguars had a very good season last year. Surprise. Kind of like 2017 of just truly how good they were. And now they feel like, hey, we already had the look at what we did last year. Let's just run this thing back. But we find so often, Seth, that it seems like that it was almost like lightning in a bottle. Like that doesn't work to just try to redo what you found worked last
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year well, and especially, you know, and if you, if you go to Trevor Lawrence and the one really impressive stretch that he had with Doug Peterson in, What was that, 2022 or whenever it was that they had a good surge in the second half of the season and people thought, oh, yep, this is it. Trevor Lawrence has finally figured it out. And lo and behold, no, he had not figured it out. And the defenses caught up to what was working for him and took away his first read and he just ended up being the same inconsistent guy. I, I, I very, very much. Yeah, agree with you that it looks like it's going against the grain when the old wisdom is that, man, you don't just, you don't just all of a sudden like, discover something and then the next year you just keep doing the same thing and you just keep getting better. The offense for the Jaguars clicked when Trevor Lawrence just looked like he'd figured out how to operate that offense. But also they brought in Jacobi Myers on that trade and they were different, they were different offense completely. You looked like you got a better version of Brian Thomas Jr. Because he could do the things he's good at. Jacoby Myers could be the guy taking the stuff over the middle instead of Brian Thomas Jr. But it was like it was one half of a season of impressive offense. But their running game also was decrepit in that time, which shouldn't be as big a deal, except you get into the playoffs and man, if you can't lean on your run game, it's a lot harder to beat a steady slate of good football teams. And they just let, so even unable to run the football, they let go of Travis Hn and just figure that, okay, this committee of Tutin and whomever else is, is, is going to be an adequate replacement. I feel like that's a That's a big leap of faith for a team that just couldn't run the ball in the second half of last season.
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Certainly. Yeah. And I think it's a big. On paper, I think it's just a big drop off. Obviously, they. They know more than me. They're in the building. They know those guys. But I was surprised by that move. And again, to take it back, like, you know, the offense wasn't all that strong for the Jags in 2017, and then they let their best receiver go and the. Chris Ivory was the running back, and they were just about defense and running the football. And it didn't work so well the next year. And Bortles was quickly gone. It's the cliches of if you're not getting better, you're getting worse.
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Yeah.
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And then also either like the adapt or die, where teams. I say this a lot, coaches in the first year can catch the league by surprise. The easiest example that always comes to my mind first is Brian Dable won a playoff game his first year in New York, and then they didn't have a winning season after that. Like, a lot of times, coaches come in, they have a good first year, but then you have to. As you know, Seth, you have to keep up because defenses will figure out, or offenses will figure out, whatever it is, you have to say one step ahead. And if you're not adapting, you're. You're falling behind. And so those would be. If I was a Jaguars fan, those would be my concerns of, like, are we actually getting better? Are we setting ourselves up to take a step back?
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Right, right. And I guess the danger is also, though, if you look at it from the other side, it's that, man, whenever anybody's operating like they're smarter than everybody else, you feel like, oh, you're setting yourself up for a big fight ball. But then every now and then, they actually are smarter than everybody else. So if you go to, you know, Epstein with the Dodgers or Jeff Luno with the Astros. Yeah, boy, these guys think they're smarter than everybody else. Young whiz kids gonna reinvent. Ah, crap, they did it. Ah, crap. That they actually followed through on it and they were smarter than everybody else. I don't know if. I just don't think that it's that possible anymore to get that big of a jump through analytics or others, because every other team, every other team is using analytics to a pretty extensive degree. So that all of a sudden, James Gladstone, the GM of the Jaguars, is all of a sudden going to be the guy that really understands and knows how to use analytics, and that's why he's doing so many things outside the grain. I'm just. I'm just even more skeptical because I don't know if it's. I don't know if it's possible in this day and age to get as big an advantage. His teams didn't baseball back when they started getting into analytics.
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Right, Right. Yeah, I would agree. On the text line, somebody says, aren't we doing the same thing with our defense, just simply running it back?
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The. No, they're not. Because they added. So that's the big thing. Like, that's exactly the counter to what Luke was talking about because they drafted a defensive tackle that addresses a weakness or perceived weakness that they had and their inability to stop the run in critical situations. In certain situations, they added Reed Blankenship, which was the other huge concern, especially when it comes to that defense allowing too many explosive plays. The rest of it is they brought back a bunch of starters who are good starters. You know, that's the. They're not just saying, okay, we'll have to. We'll hodgepodge it together and we'll see what happens. And I would argue because immediately as I say that, people are going to say, well, we. What is Henry Towa Toa exactly? They drafted two linebackers and they traded for Marte Mapu in the off season. And that was before E.J. speed got injured. So I know I don't. Now, they don't have to be as aggressive on the defensive side of the ball, but there's. They definitely don't look like they sat on their hands and figured like, oh yeah, we were awesome last year. We're going to be awesome again this year. I think d' Ameco understands exactly what we're talking about here is that you never just say, well, we're good and it's just going to be a prepackaged product and we'll roll it out again next year. So I. Yeah, I just. I would. My answer to that question would be no, that's not what they're doing on defense.
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Also, I would say the defense clearly for the Texans was maybe the best defense in the league. Certainly, like top three, where I don't think the Jaguars, if we're talking about them specifically here, I don't think they're on that level in any of the areas. It's not like, hey, the. This run game so good. Hn can leave, we'll be fine. Or, you know, this offense is so Good. We don't need one of our best skill set players. We'll be good. Like I think they still have more questions to figure out. Kind of like I was comparing to 2017 where they thought Blake Bortle was like, ah, he seems fine. We'll give him a contract and run this thing back. I think there's still more for the Jaguars to figure out than specifically the Texans defense, in my opinion.
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Well, you brought up a great analogy or a comparison which would be just, yeah, are the current Rockets operating a little bit like the Jaguars are this offseason where there was a glimmer of something that you saw last year, but you know, hey, now once we get well, Fred Van Vliet, which you thought was a certainty coming back now we just don't know. But just in running it back, are they, are they looking at. This is what I would fear. I would fear that last month of the season when it actually looked like they figured some things out offensively, that it looked like Kevin Durant had a better plan and mode of operation and figuring out where he was going to go with the ball when he got attacked. And then when Durant gets injured in the playoffs, is it too easy for them to say, well, you know what, we actually did have it kind of figured out and now with Fred Van Vliet coming back that where it's that simple. And then we'll, we'll have the absolute best version. I'm as. I'm not as comfortable thinking that it's as simple as that.
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Yeah, I get all of the anxiety, I suppose, for Rockets fans this offseason, especially when you see other teams making all these moves like specifically in the Hornets. I know Dorian Finney Smith was just traded there and he was lousy this past year, but the Hornets have just acquired like four different Good three point shooters here. This off season alone, you see these other teams making moves and you wish your team would. And I am concerned of this idea of like, ah, let's just get Fred Van Vliet healthy, Stephen Adams healthy, run it back, we'll be fine. Going back to what we were just saying about the Jaguars, I think that anytime a team fails to try to take a step forward, you're actually taking a step back. And so to think Stephen Adams, another injury and another year older for Fred Van Vliet, 32, whatever he is now coming off this knee injury where his knee exploded. Whatever phrase he used blew up. And your star Kevin Durant's now another year older who's 38. I think the idea of like, yeah, let's just run this group back, we'll be fine. That's, that's something that I can understand the anxiety because I don't know how improved they'll be on paper or even from a win total this year by simply trying to do the same thing.
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Can we just reflect on Dorian Finney Smith for a moment? And like he had, he had a 27% 3 point percentage this year, which is by far the lowest he's had in his entire career. Like it's from, from since 2016. He's the lowest he ever was, was 29.3% in his rookie season. And since then he's been up in the 30s, you know, and well into like into the 40s at points. And he's 27% this year in the 37 games that he played. Just, just, just, just a remarkable, remarkably disappointing addition last year.
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Yeah, it really was. And it took three draft picks just to foist him onto the Hornets over the weekend. They said, you don't need to give us anything. Just take him away from us. Take him out of here. That's how disappointing he was this past season.
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33% field goal percentage, like drastically, ridiculously lower than anything he's had before. It's just incredible.
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Yeah, yeah, it didn't work out. I wonder if there's some sort of, I wouldn't say curse, but the idea that the Rockets just, they still need shooting year after year and they bring in these guys and they just, they, they just can't shoot it well enough. Bodanovich is going to be the next one of just like, yeah, we just can't figure this out.
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We can't figure out the shooting thing. If you have a kind of offense that creates catch and shoot opportunities, then that, that goes a long way towards That, I mean, that's a. Yeah, the idea of. And that was in the hodgepodge of whatever the hell that offense was last year year. There's just, there's so many guys that just weren't even getting close to being in the position to do what they do best, either by design because you're asking non point guards to play point guard or just because guys like that should be, you know, catch and shoot. Sharpshooters aren't getting those same opportunities either.
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Yeah, yeah, it's true. Someone on the text line said the Jags kind of operate like Jim Crane does with the Astros. Yeah, I can see the similarities at least after 2017, this off season there.
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But they're especially, I think, where they really look like they're. They think they're smarter than everybody else is with their free agency strategy this offseason where they, hey, we're going for the compensatory picks. You know, we're going to let our running back go, we're going to get let Devin Lloyd, our linebacker go and we're not going to be aggressive in bringing anybody else in because we want to be sure we get those third round picks a couple years from now. They're playing the long game and I appreciate that. That's a good strategy to have. But at the same time, there's also like, you know, Gladstone, you got to, you got to prove that you deserve your job in these first couple years, too.
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Yeah, yeah, it's true. The lesson, the takeaway from all this is to continue to grow and try to take a step forward. I don't think the Jags have, and I worry that the Rockets are in that same trap as well heading into their next season. Hey, coming up was the Andre Johnson, Courtland Finnegan fight. Premeditated. Talk about that next here. Payne and Pendergast.
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