ASTROS AFFIRMATIONS are gonna help the Astros moving forward

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Podcast Summary: Payne & Pendergast

Episode Title: ASTROS AFFIRMATIONS are gonna help the Astros moving forward
Date: July 20, 2026
Hosts: Seth Payne, Sean Pendergast, with Cole Thompson
Theme: Using humor and "affirmations" as a lens through which to vent frustrations, analyze underperformance, and poke fun at the Astros’ 2026 struggles. The show blends sports commentary, insider banter, and creative bits around H-Town’s biggest sports stories.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the Houston Astros’ struggles deep into an uncharacteristically mediocre season, with the team sub-.500 for the first time this late since before their golden era. Payne and Pendergast deploy the bit of “positive affirmations,” directed facetiously but with pointed critique at key Astros players, manager Joe Espada, and even team technology, all as a way to vent the frustrations of a fanbase desperate for a turnaround. The segment is part group therapy and part comedy roast, balanced with deeper sports talk about Hall of Fame worthiness and assorted offbeat news.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Astros’ State of Desperation (01:16 – 02:36)

• Seth opens the show with the tough question:
  • "Should Joe Espada be gone? Not at the end of the season, not after breakfast. But...but now." (01:16 – Seth)
• Discussion on just how dire the Astros’ situation is:
  • "The AL’s mediocrity is the only thing keeping them alive. This is the deepest in a season they've been sub-.500 since 2014." (01:57 – Seth)

2. Positive Affirmations Segment (02:36 – 15:57)

Kickoff and Purpose

• Sean introduces “affirmations” for the Astros as a tongue-in-cheek coping mechanism:
  • “You know what the Astros need? They need some affirmations.” (02:57 – Sean)

Affirmations for Joe Espada, Manager

• “I don’t have to prove to anybody that I’m smart, that I’m clever, that gosh darn it, I’m competent… I’m smart enough and people respect me for that.” (03:27 – Sean)
• Critique of his lineup decisions and handling of accountability after poor play.
• “I will not let [Hunter Brown] sit out there with absolutely zero command… I will watch the baseball game and understand what’s going on.” (10:47 – Sean)

Affirmations for Players

• Christian Walker

  • “I can handle failure. When I have a bad moment or I strike out, I hold my chest out with pride.” (05:30 – Sean)
  • Cole chimes in: “It’s okay to watch a ball go in the dirt and not try to golf club swing at it.” (06:04 – Cole)

• Jeremy Peña

  • “My muscles are live and pliable and well hydrated. I never cramp up. And when I do cramp up, I don’t act like these modern athletes who think a cramp is somehow a forebear to tearing something.” (08:13 – Sean)
  • Historical reflection on Peña’s injuries and impact on the team (08:53–09:29).

• Yiner Diaz

  • “I know where the strike zone is and I understand when to challenge and when not to…” (10:00 – Sean)
  • “I understand where the danger is and I will be there… cover the appropriate bases when it might prevent a run.” (11:15 – Sean)

• Hunter Brown (Pitching staff callout)

  • “I will pay attention to baserunners.” (10:45 – Seth)
  • “I will not burn my pitcher that just came off the IL… by keeping him out there way too long.” (13:57 – Cole)

Affirmations for Astros Technology

• PitchCom failing: “I am not all that complicated a piece of technology… I will not fail you humans in critical moments…” (12:51 – Sean)
• Dugout iPad: “I need to stop letting these guys play Candy Crush and Angry Birds.” (13:20 – Seth)

Fan Base & Media Affirmations

• Seth shares a fan affirmation (15:00):
  • “I do not need to do the wave. It’s stupid. I can sit and enjoy a game without doing the wave.” (15:00 – Seth)

3. Listener Interactions & Banter

• Lighthearted accusations: Who at SportsRadio 610 would keep lottery pool winnings all to themselves? (19:14 – 22:12)
  • Seth: “I think it might be me.” (21:04 – Seth)
  • “Galant has a certain stubbornness… would be adamant about doing the right thing.” (21:20 – Sean)
  • Discussion of honesty among staff, with shout-outs to Reggie for being upstanding.

4. Sports News & Offbeat Stories (17:03 – 31:40)

• Lottery pool betrayal story sparks relatable office debate.
• Tom Brady and Logan Paul WWE rumors:
  • “Why Tom, why? … This is a weird midlife crisis to have.” (23:45 – Sean)
  • “Who has not wanted to flip off Logan Paul?” (25:01 – Cole)
• Florida Pizza-for-Python scheme:
  • “Anything with an escaped Burmese python checks all the boxes. Unhealthy food, reptiles, some sort of underground commerce…” (26:08 – Seth)
• Nick Wright as a sports jinx, Danhausen wrestling curses, and cameos—gag-filled asides, but with a Houston-centric flavor.

5. Astros & NFL: Hall of Fame Worthiness (36:02 – 45:24)

Pro Football Focus All-Era Team

• “PFF’s All-Pro team since 2006: Two Texans; JJ Watt and DeAndre Hopkins.” (36:48 – Seth)

  • On Hopkins:
    • “Put it this way, of these six [WRs], DeAndre is the one who…far and away has the least amount of buzz.” (39:16 – Seth)
    • “Was there ever a period where people looked at him as the best receiver in the NFL?” (42:20 – Sean)
    • “The only person that could shut down DeAndre Hopkins was Brock Osweiler as his quarterback.” (40:41 – Seth)

• Jalen Ramsey on DeAndre Hopkins:

  • “The only wide receiver to ever put up a hundred yards on me in a game was DeAndre Hopkins at the end of 2018… He went to work. I was hot.” (43:05 – Jalen Ramsey recounting, quoted by Sean)

• Reflection on HOF voting, production, Texans being a middle-of-the-pack team during prime years, and whether DeAndre is underrated in the greater conversation.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Joe Espada’s Management:
  • “I’ll watch the baseball game and understand what’s going on.” (10:47 – Sean)
• On Player Culpability:
  • “The only person that could shut down DeAndre Hopkins was Brock Osweiler as his quarterback.” (40:41 – Seth)
• On Affirmations Segment:
  • “These sound like backhanded affirmations.” (11:33 – Listener Text)
  • “This is just positivity.” (11:39 – Sean)
• On Houston Sports Suffering:
  • “The injuries can always get worse.” (15:51 – Seth)
• On Cameos:
  • “I was more critical of his… lack of energy in the cameo.” (31:30 – Sean)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |----------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Astros’ State of Desperation, Should Espada Go? | 01:16 – 02:36 | | Affirmations Bit - Espada & Players | 02:36 – 15:57 | | Listener Banter (Lottery betrayal, etc.) | 19:14 – 22:12 | | Tom Brady & Logan Paul WWE Story | 23:04 – 25:46 | | Florida Python for Pizza Tale | 25:49 – 27:31 | | Nick Wright & Danhausen Cursing Segment | 28:22 – 31:40 | | PFF All-Era NFL Team - Hopkins/Watt, HOF talk | 36:02 – 45:24 | | Jalen Ramsey on DeAndre Hopkins | 43:05 – 44:38 |

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Tone & Style

• Language & Tone: Friendly, irreverent, locally-flavored with tongue-in-cheek cynicism and sarcasm. Equal parts venting and rooting for the Astros, with bits riffing on sports talk clichés.
• Speaker Attribution: All quotes and pointed lines credited directly to Seth, Sean, or Cole, maintaining their voice and rapport.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is a classic example of Payne & Pendergast turning Astros agony into communal comedy, using jokes, clever “affirmations,” and honest sports discussion. You’ll get Astros analysis disguised as therapy, inside jokes about Houston sports radio personalities, and plenty of broader H-Town sports context—plus a few wild side stories and Hall of Fame debate for extra depth.

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If you’re craving sharp Houston sports takes mixed with a healthy dose of self-aware humor, this is an episode not to miss.

Transcript

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[Seth Payne]

If we were to ask the question to the Astros fan base, should Joe Espada be gone? Yeah, not at the end of the season. Not after breakfast. But. But now.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, I would say right now maybe the majority think.

[Seth Payne]

Yes, definitely think the majority.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, I'm like, I'm always telling you

[Seth Payne]

about it's kind of cherry picking to do it after they just swept.

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, there's also that point where you're like, all right, at some point, if you're going to do it in season, it's got to be to provide some kind of juice. Yeah. And if you're looking at this current roster and thinking like, okay, listen, we need to start from square one to begin with, then. Not like it's not like you're trying to tank for the draft or anything, but there might be a little bit of why bother?

[Seth Payne]

And if you're wondering, like what, what's the. Like, what's the level of desperation? Purely from a record standpoint, granted, the American League and its mediocrity is keeping you. That's the thing that's keeping this team alive right now. This is the deepest they've gone into a season and been sub.500 since before the golden era. Yeah, since 2014. And they flipped it around the last two years to where by this point they'd won 59 games last year, they'd won 52. The year before, they've won 47 games, and there's no sign that there's a six or seven game winning streak coming anytime soon with this team. So, yeah, I think I. Maybe I'll pender poll that one, too. I got a lot of polls I gotta put up today.

[Sean Pendergast]

So this weekend, somebody sent me some positive affirmations. A friend of mine that you wouldn't. You wouldn't guess would be a positive affirmation guy.

[Seth Payne]

Really.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's kind of a. He's kind of a beer drinker. Used to be a brawler type and everything, but it's been big for him in his life. So the old Stuart Smalley thing, you know, I'm confident I'm strong enough and people like me. Gosh, are you okay right now?

[Seth Payne]

Did you need the affirmation?

[Sean Pendergast]

Oh, no, no, no. I had asked him about it. I was asking him something. We were talking about. He's in sales, and I was just kind of asking him something about it. You know what the Astros need? They need some affirmations. So I got some good New Age music going here, and I'm going to. I'm going to take the Astros to some affirmations. Feel free to throw in.

[Seth Payne]

I just want you to know we only have 13 minutes left in this.

[Sean Pendergast]

I'm going to. Well, let's start.

[Seth Payne]

Listen, a lot of people that need

[Sean Pendergast]

this stuff, listen, you want your. You want your ship to get to port, you need a good captain of that ship. And Joe ESP Desperately in need of some affirmations.

[Seth Payne]

Okay?

[Sean Pendergast]

So, Joe Espada, I want you to repeat after me. I don't have to prove to anybody that I'm smart, that I'm clever, that, gosh darn it, I'm competent. I don't have to. I don't have to pinch hit for Jordan Alvarez in a close game. I don't have to bunt like it's 1973. I'm smart enough, and people respect me for that. I also. So repeat after me, Joe Espada. I hold guys accountable. I. When I see a young player who just struck out, but the catcher drops the ball and it's rolling in the dirt, and your young players should be going to first base as fast as he can. I hold guys accountable for stuff like that. Yes. Well, he's repeating me. Yeah. Um, so you got any more for Espada?

[Seth Payne]

Do I have any more affirmations for

[Sean Pendergast]

Espada that he needs?

[Seth Payne]

For Espada. You know what I Would say every time in a post. Repeat after me, Joe. In a post game press conference, even after a pitcher has given up.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Nine earned runs, but still gave us five innings. It's okay for me to tout the five innings and ignore the nine earned runs. He did give us five innings.

[Sean Pendergast]

But you have to do the affirmation for what you actually want him to do. Yeah, like. Like he should say, I. I accountable afterwards, too. And I'll address. I'll address what the issues were. I like. So here. Joe Espada. Yeah, I'll just say it in the U. It gets too confusing. Listen, Joe, listen, listen, Joe, listen. These guys aren't. These guys aren't super delicate.

[Seth Payne]

I like the. Repeat after me.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay? Repeat after me, Joe. Repeat after me, Joe.

[Cole Thompson]

Come on.

[Sean Pendergast]

After your pitch. After a pitcher gets shelled in a game.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

I can point out that it was a really bad performance for him. I don't have to say his stuff is really good. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't have to say, hey, Hunter's stuff is really good.

[Seth Payne]

We're trying to get him to change his ways.

[Sean Pendergast]

Christian Walker. We'll do Christian Walker.

[Seth Payne]

Let's do this.

[Sean Pendergast]

Christian Walker, repeat after me. I can handle failure. When I have a bad moment or I strike out, I hold my chest out with pride. I walk to the dugout at a normal pace. And I understand that I'm not setting a bad example, like the aforementioned. For the aforementioned Zach Disenzo. That what this game is all about is not pouting. It's about just getting back up and doing it again.

[Seth Payne]

Yes.

[Sean Pendergast]

I also, my obliques are strong and flexible, and I will not injure them.

[Seth Payne]

That's gonna work.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

Can I give an affirmation to Christian Walker? Yeah, Christian, repeat after me. It's okay to watch a ball go in the dirt and not try to golf club swing at it.

[Sean Pendergast]

You're doing the check swings.

[Cole Thompson]

It's okay to watch a ball go by and not try to play hero.

[Seth Payne]

It's okay when it goes in the dirt at first base. It's okay. Like, we like him to swing at it with his glove to try to scoop it, but we don't like him to do that with his bat. All right, that's a good one.

[Sean Pendergast]

Imai, repeat after me.

[Seth Payne]

Okay.

[Sean Pendergast]

I don't know if we have a translator the ball.

[Seth Payne]

This one's gonna take a while.

[Sean Pendergast]

The ball is. The ball is just sticky enough. The meals are served at the appropriate time in the appropriate place.

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[Sean Pendergast]

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[Seth Payne]

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[Sean Pendergast]

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[Seth Payne]

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[Sean Pendergast]

Yes, I am comfortable.

[Seth Payne]

It's not cold.

[Sean Pendergast]

60 degrees Fahrenheit, I don't know what it is in Celsius is just fine.

[Cole Thompson]

Finding the strike zone three times in a row is a welcomed experience.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes. Good job. We've got him on track. Brian King. Listen, repeat after me, Brian King.

[Seth Payne]

We gonna waste our time.

[Sean Pendergast]

Repeat after me, Brian King. I have historically great splits versus righties. I will look at photos of myself and hit the mirror button on Instagram so it'll make me look like I'm a righty because that's what I have done historically. I haven't gone in and let up home run after home after a home run. That's not who I am. I will take my. I will spend my time in the minor leagues to, to do what I always do, which is have, have, have, have, have great splits versus righties.

[Seth Payne]

Yes. Yes, yes. Okay.

[Sean Pendergast]

Jeremy Pena.

[Seth Payne]

Jeremy Pena.

[Cole Thompson]

Oh, boy.

[Sean Pendergast]

My muscles are live and pliable and, and well hydrated. I never cramp up. And when I do cramp up, I don't act like these modern athletes who think that a cramp is somehow a forebear to tearing something. Ah, I wouldn't. I will not leave games because of cramping, be they muscular or menstrual.

[Seth Payne]

This is, this is at least. This music is something, man. I like this. This is at least five times now that he's.

[Sean Pendergast]

Since he's had to leave a game

[Seth Payne]

since late last year. The. Jeremy Pena had been a rock forever. And then he got beaned by the Cubs last year in the ribs. I'm not counting that on his ticket. Sure injury wise, but it broke a rib, but it's almost like it broke something else inside of him because he, he, he missed. People forget this. He missed the last week of the season. Last year they could have used Jeremy Pena.

[Cole Thompson]

Yep.

[Seth Payne]

10th in the MVP voting to make the playoffs last year. Missed it with I believe an oblique or something like that. Oblique strain. And there's been. There's now been at least three, if not four times. Two times he's already been on the injured list.

[Cole Thompson]

If he goes back, it's the third time.

[Seth Payne]

It's the third time on the injured list. So the last two he's come back like he's come back without having to go to the. He's anyways, he's getting hurt a lot.

[Sean Pendergast]

Repeat after me, Einer, with your positive affirmations. I love coconut water. I love pickle juice. I love any kind of electrolyte laden liquid that's going to help me finish games. That's the. And that's. And that's just the way I operate. That's just what I do.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, you mean Pena. Yeah, what you said.

[Sean Pendergast]

Oh, Yiner.

[Seth Payne]

Yet I got excited.

[Sean Pendergast]

When you repeat after me, I know where the strike zone is and I understand when to. When to challenge and when not to challenge. And sometimes I won't challenge when it is indeed a ball. And then if I, when I do actually end up having a couple successful

[Seth Payne]

challenges after that good for a minute,

[Sean Pendergast]

I won't screw up everything by throwing a runner out at second who I have no hope of getting out. When there's a runner on third, throw him out. When there's a runner on third, third and you score a run because you tried to pick off somebody who was unpickable. Yeah. And I will remind Hunter that you got a guy on first who's got a healthy lead.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. Do a little affirmation for Hunter too.

[Sean Pendergast]

I will.

[Seth Payne]

I will. Pay attention to baserunners.

[Sean Pendergast]

Oh, I forgot with espada. Espada. You're back in the mix, Joe. Repeat after me, Joe. I will pull Hunter at the appropriate time. I will not let him sit out there with absolutely zero command with the bases loaded. And I will understand exactly what's. I will watch the baseball game. I will watch the baseball game and understand what's going on.

[Cole Thompson]

We throw one more in for Einer.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

I love home plate. Yeah. I should cover home plate. I should stay positive and not be anywhere else but home.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes. I repeat after me, Yiner. I understand where the danger is and I will be there. I will be there and cover the appropriate bases when. When it might prevent something like an actual run being scored. Even though it probably wouldn't just still be there. Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Text message. These sound like backhanded affirmations.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Sean Pendergast]

I don't know what you're talking about. This is just positivity.

[Cole Thompson]

Positivity would be better served as a player after chewing. Damn positive. I don't need fire and brimstone, but give me the spark.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Okay. Can I do one for my favorite player, Mike Burroughs.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Who avoided like Kai Way Tang avoided his minor league assignment by coming up with some injury. The team remember Kai way. Tang got option to Sugar Land in there, like, two days later. Like, oh, no, wait, you know, his arm, it's broken. Like Rodney Dangerfield, like. So the same thing happened with Mike Burrows. They optioned him, but then they revoked the option, so he's still with the ball club. Mike Burroughs, repeat after me. I don't need to just throw meatballs over the middle of the plate.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

I can cherry pick. I got the stuff.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes, yes.

[Seth Payne]

Pick on. Pick the corners here to cherry pick to. To nibble, as they like to say, on the corners. I don't need to serve it on a silver platter to these people. Look at. Look at most of the hitters I've thrown to this year. You know what? The reason I've given up a lot of runs is just because of these damn home runs I keep giving up.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes.

[Seth Payne]

If I just stop giving up the home runs, and I am perfectly capable.

[Sean Pendergast]

Good job, Mike. Mike Burrow.

[Seth Payne]

Look at this red beard of mine. It's beautiful. I look like a pirate.

[Sean Pendergast]

I'm going to say I used to be a pir. I've got one. Typically, you don't try to give affirmations to a piece of technology, but for pitchcom. Pitchcom, which just went out for how long was. It was like three hours. Yeah. I am. I am not all that complicated a piece of technology I like. I'm not that much different than a transistor radio. Then I will not. I will not fail. I will not fail you humans in critical moments because what the hell.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Can I give one to a piece of technology? This is an affirmation for the iPad in the Astros dugout. You know what? I need to stop letting these guys play Candy Crush and Angry Birds.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes. Yeah. I'm going to. I'm going to have parental controls on.

[Seth Payne]

I'm going to self download whatever apps the good teams are using to get a. Not cheat, but get a little edge.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

You know, I'm going to. I'm going to try to be a more productive piece of technology in this dugout.

[Sean Pendergast]

Not even try. I am a more productive. You have to visualize you being that iPad. The perfect iPad.

[Cole Thompson]

I thought of one of Joe Espada. Get him back in here for a second. I will not burn my pitcher. That just came off the IL from Tommy John surgery by keeping him out

[Seth Payne]

there way too long tonight.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

I will set the tone tonight by allowing him to go as far as far as he can with being comfortable.

[Sean Pendergast]

Right.

[Cole Thompson]

And not put him in a position to where I am Going to blow out his arm and have him back for one start and right back at square one with this pitching rotation.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, I didn't leave Hunter Brown out way too long in his first start of the season, which maybe was the reason that he got into the fix he was in anyway.

[Seth Payne]

Oh, yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

Eight innings, you know, eight weeks later. He'll be fine.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Blanco's got to, he's got to be on a pitch count tonight. I mean, technically, everybody's.

[Sean Pendergast]

If it's going well, Espada's like, we

[Cole Thompson]

can go to the fifth.

[Sean Pendergast]

Hey, Joe, repeat after me. I'm not terrified about how I'm going to be reusing my relievers three days from now. So I'm to the point where I, where I, where I keep guys in for way too long. And I damn sure won't be complimenting pitcher after, after you allow seven runs. But hey, he stayed in for six innings. He made my job easier. Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

I just got one sent to me from my wife, an affirmation she would like the Houston fan base to repeat after themselves. I do not need to do the wave. It's stupid. I can sit and enjoy a game without doing the wave.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, I don't need, I don't need gadgetry like, like the wave to keep, to keep my kids entertained during games.

[Seth Payne]

People want us to do affirmations for people at Sports Radio 610 for Clint. I will not talk about how injuries can't get worse in the second half of the season. Did Clint say that? Oh, he must have unfolded. Texter is saying it. It's got to be true.

[Sean Pendergast]

I'm guilty of it just at the beginning of the season.

[Seth Payne]

I'll.

[Sean Pendergast]

Offseason. Yeah, Seth, repeat after me. I will not in the off season say that they can't. The injuries can't possibly be as bad early on as they were last year.

[Seth Payne]

The injuries can always get worse.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

That's what we've learned. All right. Good job, Seth. I enjoyed that. I have no idea if it's going to work.

[Sean Pendergast]

Hopefully everybody's feeling a lot more positive.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. All right. We, we've done this the last couple of days with Cole at 7:20, but we did acknowledge me earlier today, news that you may have missed from over the weekend from the news cycle here. Cole Thompson's got him for you. News you may have missed, including one. We had lottery stories last week. This one's a good one. We've got a good lottery story that we'll get to and also some sports related ones. As well. Tom Brady, people getting upset with Tom Brady on the interwebs over the weekend. We'll get with that. We'll get to that as well. Stay.

[Sean Pendergast]

There's pain and pender gas.

[Seth Payne]

All right. Pain and pender gas with you on a Monday. Hope you had a great weekend. Still got a ton to get to today on the show with you. It'll be 10am Sean Pendergast, Seth Payne, Cole Thompson's here with us today, and we did this segment a couple times last week. We'll do it here. But yeah, especially on a Monday, you know, a lot of stuff kind of slips through the cracks off the radar, whatever, you know, whatever wording it is you want to use. But there may have been news that you missed over the weekend, sports and otherwise. So Cole is here with a few of those stories for us to react to here. What do you got, Cole?

[Cole Thompson]

Yeah, we all have that one friend that is definitely being shady behind closed doors. They're not telling us the they're very friendly. They want to keep you in the loop. But if something happens to them, they're keeping it under wraps. Who do you think would be the person at 6:10 that would find a way?

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I remember telling my boss it'll be

[Seth Payne]

good for the brand when leads were slow. Yeah, it it wasn't.

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[Seth Payne]

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[Cole Thompson]

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[Seth Payne]

What's the vibe?

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[Cole Thompson]

If you're in a pool with everybody and then say, you know what, thanks. I'm keeping the money.

[Seth Payne]

That's a heavy question. So tell us why you're asking that question first and then give us a chance to think about it.

[Cole Thompson]

So there was a bunch of construction workers that went in on the lottery in New Jersey, day in and day out. And then one of the workers who had the mega millions said that he was taking off of work because he needed a foot surgery. And they didn't give a timeline of what he would return. And he never came back. We'll come to find out. The other guys who were banking alongside him in the mega millions found out that he won $38.5 million.

[Seth Payne]

Okay, so hold on. Let me. So let me. Let me make sure I have this straight. So you got all these guys. Yep. They're all guys or whatever, all pulling in together. And we see companies do that, and they all pull in for the lottery tickets, and if you win, you split it evenly.

[Sean Pendergast]

So this guy just flat out didn't tell him.

[Seth Payne]

This guy just up and he. And he just up and left?

[Cole Thompson]

Well, no, what he did was he said, oh, I'm having foot surgery. I'll be out for an extended time. Never came back. A year.

[Seth Payne]

So he had one already?

[Cole Thompson]

Yeah. A year goes by.

[Seth Payne]

A year.

[Cole Thompson]

A year goes by. Nobody finds out about it. One guy then looks up online about him and figures out that he won $38.5 million. But because if he just wanted to go ahead and get the money, not worry about anyone finding out about this, he took the tax out on it. So $24 million? Well, the friends got together and sued this guy to be able to get their earnings because they put in for

[Seth Payne]

the lottery to get their share of the money.

[Cole Thompson]

Yes.

[Sean Pendergast]

Did they win or is this ongoing?

[Cole Thompson]

So they ended up winning. They handed over the 24 million. Each person got $4 million they should get.

[Sean Pendergast]

What a dirty. So the question is, who at Sports Radio 610 is most likely to do that?

[Seth Payne]

If we had a pool, I would

[Sean Pendergast]

say Sean, just because he was like, I see that. I could See him being in deep to, to a bookie or something.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

And he wouldn't do it because he, because he was greedy. Do it out of desperation. Yeah. Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

I, when I saw, when I saw this story, I immediately thought, okay, who here would do that? I'm like, damn, I think it might be me.

[Cole Thompson]

You wanna go with Paul?

[Sean Pendergast]

That's a pretty shady thing.

[Cole Thompson]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

I don't know that Galant would hold up well knowing that he stiffed people out of. No, but he would go down a million dollars.

[Sean Pendergast]

No, Galant. Galant has a certain stubbo. Like in a good way. Like there's certain things that he will and will not stand for. I feel like he would be adamant about doing the right thing.

[Seth Payne]

Yes.

[Sean Pendergast]

Even if he desperately didn't want.

[Seth Payne]

I do too. Me on the other hand, I would say a young.

[Sean Pendergast]

I think Lopez in his younger years might do it. I don't think now.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, probably not now.

[Sean Pendergast]

I can see, I can see Lopez back in the 70s when he's out and he's wearing shirt on button onto his belly button and everything.

[Seth Payne]

Remember?

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Partied with Charlie Sheen.

[Sean Pendergast]

He shows up.

[Seth Payne]

Charlie Sheen talking him into it.

[Sean Pendergast]

I think, I know Lopez would have a van full of kilos of coke. And yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Charlie, she be like, why are you splitting it with your co workers, Cuba? Yeah. Get out of here. Yeah, get out of here. Yeah. So I think, I think you nailed it, Seth. I think if we're power ranking, I'll

[Cole Thompson]

wear that Power ranking. You'd be at the top.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, I'll wear that. I find it. Yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

Who would be last in that ranking? Who do you think would be like the first person to show up, guys?

[Seth Payne]

Reggie.

[Sean Pendergast]

I think there might be a part. That's the kind of thing where man, if that, if that's the arrangement, if there's any inkling in your mind at all of like, like the temptation to do that, you gotta, you gotta go. Im like you gotta text everybody immediately and just get it out there. Yeah. Once you go down that road, that's

[Seth Payne]

definitely would have picked me because he likes to point out that I have rich friends.

[Sean Pendergast]

Oh yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Let me just be clear. I haven't swindled any of them out of any money. Okay.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Not tried to get him in on a Ponzi scheme or some sort of ticket buying scam or pull a Matt Miller with him and say, hey, I'm giving it all to charity.

[Cole Thompson]

I do think it's funny that all of us agreed Reggie consensusly.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Reggie's. He's an upstanding citizen.

[Cole Thompson]

This is a sentence I thought I would never utter out of my mouth. Tom Brady needs to skull drag Logan Paul.

[Seth Payne]

Why are you saying that sentence?

[Cole Thompson]

So did you guys see the fanatics issue with him? With him slapping slap good.

[Sean Pendergast]

Slap Logan Paul good. Like there is obviously a prelude. And this is after Tom Brady a day or two before had said that he hoped to get into ww, get into a pro wrestling match somehow.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, he told Cody Rhodes that.

[Cole Thompson]

So it's continuing. Yesterday at the World Cup Final, they have Tom Brady and his kids sitting in a. Sitting in a suite right next to Logan Paul and his own paparazzi. So they're going back and forth, getting the middle finger to each other, going and screaming at each other like making fun of each other. Like, it feels like this is a moment of where you're finally getting set up for Tom Brady to enter the ring.

[Sean Pendergast]

This to me feels better. I honestly, I. I see a lot of people asking this question, why Tom? Why? Yes, I feel like this is him.

[Seth Payne]

Snooty people.

[Sean Pendergast]

This is a weird midlife crisis to have which he has. You know, he's in a different. He's in a different place than most people in the world where he doesn't have to go out. He's already got whichever vehicle he wants or whatever. But I feel like it's. Yeah, it's something like he's just gonna.

[Caller or Guest]

He.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's just gonna let his freak flag fly.

[Seth Payne]

Do I look. I'm the WWE fan in the room. So this is my opinion on this is that. Yeah, I definitely think it's working towards something. The part that I don't like, I like Tom Brady being involved. The Tom Brady gets involved in a WWE angle in some way. I'll be super interested to see exactly what the creative looks like for that. It is the people like the Albert Breers, the Will Compton's, the. Those are the two that I.2 of a few that I saw yesterday. Those are the two that I can recall off the top of my head though. Why is he doing this?

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Oh, why Tom? Why? Like doing what? Like, who cares? Logan Paul and some sort of wwe. He's know why he's doing it? Because it's funny. He's having fun. He's enjoying doing it. Are people against Seth?

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, not everybody. Everybody's abandoned their dignity quite already. Like you have, apparently.

[Seth Payne]

Why is that a pandering your dignity?

[Cole Thompson]

To be fair, who has not want to flip off Logan Paul?

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

There's one person that's the guy.

[Sean Pendergast]

This is a part of it that I don't like. Is that I just not. I'm not buying it at all. Like, I'd like there to be some little part of it where it feels like. Okay, this might be. Is my microphone.

[Cole Thompson]

Yeah, you're on.

[Caller or Guest]

You're on.

[Seth Payne]

You're good.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, I can't hear myself. The. The. There might be some part where like. Oh, wait a second. Brady. Brady serious this time or something, or. He means it's a wrestling angle. Yeah, I know. I just. I'm not buying into the fantasy of it. It just looks so.

[Seth Payne]

Neither am I. But that's fine. No, but it's. Let me be clear. It's the people that somehow feel like Tom Brady should be above this.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Like, they're being like, stop being so snooty.

[Cole Thompson]

Stop.

[Seth Payne]

Stop looking down on my people. My people generate a lot of money.

[Sean Pendergast]

I think I'm looking down on him a little bit.

[Seth Payne]

I think you are, too. It's a little annoying.

[Cole Thompson]

Okay, what do you guys think is the most Florida story of all Florida stories?

[Sean Pendergast]

It's got to involve math.

[Seth Payne]

We've got four minutes left in this segment. What's the most Florida story? Where do we start?

[Cole Thompson]

So would you say selling Burmese pythons for free pizza would be a Florida story?

[Sean Pendergast]

Oh, yeah. Anything with an escaped Burmese python.

[Seth Payne]

It checks all the boxes. Checks all the boxes. Unhealthy food, reptiles.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Some sort of underground commerce, it sounds like. Yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

So there's a Florida pizzeria that is currently looking to be in this cat. Be in this fight to get the most Burmese pythons because they're an invasive species and you're supposed to collect them.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

So the owner is now offering one Burmese python for a free pizza

[Sean Pendergast]

python. You get a free pizza. Is it hard to get a Bernese python? I know.

[Cole Thompson]

Everywhere, apparently, throughout the entire state.

[Seth Payne]

Are they. Are they trying to. Is there. Are they overrun with them right now?

[Cole Thompson]

Run with them. And you're supposed to euthanize them immediately. But there's a contest going on called the Florida Python Challenge, where The winner gets $10,000 in prize money.

[Seth Payne]

Who's the. Like, who are the contestants? Pizzerias or.

[Cole Thompson]

No, no, no. This one guy, who is known for also being a snake hunter is asking people to come on in and drop off Burmese pythons, and in return, he'll give you a free pizza out of it.

[Seth Payne]

Okay, but who's.

[Caller or Guest]

But who's.

[Seth Payne]

What's this contest you're talking about? Who's this contest?

[Cole Thompson]

The guy who Owns the pizzeria is trying to win the $10,000 by collecting the most.

[Seth Payne]

The most Burmese.

[Cole Thompson]

Burmese python. There's no rule on how to collect them, so he can just say here, you want a free pepperoni and mushroom? Okay, give me a Burmese python.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's not a great Florida story because it doesn't involve an arrest.

[Seth Payne]

Florida?

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah. Like, well, an arrest involving bath salts would be the best one.

[Seth Payne]

Yes, that's, that's, that's the sweet nectar.

[Sean Pendergast]

This is. Yeah. I never knew this and I assume that it's 100% correct because I heard it from a stand up comedian which is where I get most of my legal learning.

[Seth Payne]

Right, right.

[Sean Pendergast]

One of the, there's a guy from Florida who said that the, the reason that the so many legal stor Florida make the news is because it's easier to search their database than other states.

[Seth Payne]

Okay.

[Sean Pendergast]

So like it's all like, it's just, it's a very easy to search database. And he's, he's, he's, he's making this argument for it and I'm like, yeah, but it's, it's also, it's because somebody in Florida is running. Some idiot in Florida is running that database and making it that way.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's full of people who didn't fit in. It's people who weren't ambitious enough to go to. It's all the free spirits who were in ambition is enough to go all the way to the west coast. They're like, they just don't fit in. So they go to Florida. You know the kid from your high school that moved to Florida? Yeah. That state is full of those guys. Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Tom Flaherty moved to Florida.

[Cole Thompson]

How big of a jinx do you think Nick Wright is because of once again he has found a way to mess things up in the world.

[Seth Payne]

Did you see this?

[Sean Pendergast]

No.

[Cole Thompson]

So Nick Wright has gone to three World cup games. In every single one he has picked a team that he is rooting for. For the first one was Brazil. Brazil gets upset by Norway.

[Seth Payne]

Hang on, don't bury the lead. Nick gets dressed up in the whole head to toe bucket hat of the team jersey.

[Cole Thompson]

The whole thing speaks on how the sports gods are on his side with everything. So Brazil loses to Norway. Then he goes to the Morocco fight. I mean the Morocco battle, they lose that game in right at the end. So it's just like a comeback with then yesterday in New York he is dressed head to toe covered in Argentinian gear saying the sports gods will be on arg. Argentina's side today.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

Once again, they find a way to lose. He's over three in games.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's a really good shtick for him because it's entertaining.

[Cole Thompson]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

And it's not beneath him the way Tom Brady might do something and. But it also. He's got to be careful. Like, he can't take this act to Argentina or anything. You know, he loves doing this. Well, he's well within the, you know, ensconced in the safety of the United States.

[Seth Payne]

Clearly, if he did that, it'd be uninvited.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you gotta be. You gotta be careful with this.

[Seth Payne]

I didn't know about the Morocco one. I only seen the Brazil one once. You do it twice.

[Cole Thompson]

The third time, it's like the time you're just trolling.

[Sean Pendergast]

I mean, so he's probably a little bit of the version of your, your pro wrestling guy there, the Danhausen. He's.

[Seth Payne]

He's the anti Dan House.

[Cole Thompson]

Speaking of which, Danhausen was the last thing that we're going to talk about here. Dan Housing is on a generational run of cursing people. Every single person he has cursed so far. He has been able to watch when he first off started off by cursing everyone besides who was playing the Knicks, they won that one. Then he cursed the Las Vegas Golden Knights in the, in the Stanley Cup Final. Carolina won that one. Then he co. Then he cursed on Saturday for Fanatics Fest. He cursed Argentina. Yeah, they won that one.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, yeah. He literally had cursed the Knicks, they lost two games and then he uncursed them and they went on to win 11 out of 12 or whatever it was. So, yeah, he's. He's on a roll right now.

[Cole Thompson]

Like, do not be on the bad side.

[Seth Payne]

I tweeted out I had AI make a Sports Illustrated cover with him as sportsman of the year for 2026 and tweeted it yesterday.

[Sean Pendergast]

You know, I went through a few of his cameos because I like going through cameos and seeing the people who give the bad reviews. And a couple of his, A couple of his were pretty milquetoast. I was kind of disappointed in him. He was just kind of like reading, reading it, not putting any emotion into it.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, I'm with you. Like, the cameos have been a little underwhelming.

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, even, you know, probably buy one Bryce Harper's cameo that he got in all kinds of hot water for because who was it? Was it FanDuel or which. No, FanDuel ended up using it like, as, like in a way that that Bryce Harper didn't realize it was going to be used.

[Seth Payne]

There was a guy who lost a million and a half gambling with them and they used that video to send to him.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

To encourage him to start gambling.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Like Bryce Harbour didn't understand exactly how it was going to be used. But even like is. I was more critical of his. The lack of energy he had in the cameo.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Than any tie to the. The actual sports.

[Seth Payne]

It's the Bryce Harper one I don't like. I'm with you. I saw the video. He's a baseball player. The Danhausen ones. I'm like, you're a performer.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Who's. Who's. Who. Honestly, whose Star is based 98% on the performative part of the. Like the. Like the humor part of the character, not the in ring part of the character. So I'm kind of with you on that. That still love the guy, but kind of with you on that.

[Sean Pendergast]

I want to get a cameo account today, but I'm going to.

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[Cole Thompson]

By the way, the text line says Nick Wright is Ted Cruz and Tyler Milner combined.

[Seth Payne]

That's pretty good. All right, coming up next. Good job, Cole.

[Sean Pendergast]

Oh, actually, I think T mail might be the guy. T Mill might be the guy. Withholds. Withholds about winning the lottery.

[Cole Thompson]

I'll never hear from him again.

[Seth Payne]

I will get a thousand percent.

[Sean Pendergast]

No, I honestly, I honestly think Sean would be one of the lowest. I was just picking at him.

[Seth Payne]

No, no, yeah, no, I did. But I do envision myself like, could I see my. The money was enough. I don't think I would do it. Tyler Milner, that's the guy.

[Cole Thompson]

And they all say Ron on the text line.

[Seth Payne]

I don't know that Ron. Ron doesn't strike me as dishonest. You know, like if anything, he's a little too honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

It speaks the truth.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Someone's saying Bani for sure. See, Bani has his own business outside of radio, so he would have a way to kind of hide it a little bit.

[Sean Pendergast]

That's true. He'd be like, he'd say that he. Oh Yeah, I built 300 fences last.

[Seth Payne]

I don't know this, but the fence

[Sean Pendergast]

business is growing 10,000% and laundering the money somehow.

[Cole Thompson]

I made a tik tok. It blew up. Now my business is going everywhere.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. All right, coming up Next, the All PFA. So going back to 2006, Pro Football Focus put together their all pro team for the last 20 years, which brings up an interesting question about DeAndre Hopkins, who made this team. We'll have that for you coming up next.

[Sean Pendergast]

Sports Radio 610 presents live from the West Point Lincoln and West Point Lincoln of Sugarland Studios. Here's Pain and Pendergast.

[Seth Payne]

All right, so Pro Football Focus put together their they're all Pro Football Focus era team for the NFL. They've been doing each of the 32 teams recently. Pro Football Focus has kind of pro. And for those who don't know, Pro Football Focus, the website that grades every player, every snap of every game, and they give them a numerical grade for people that love numbers, it's a fantastic website. They've got some good stuff on there. So it goes back to 2006. So this is essentially sort of the. The all pro team in the eyes of PFF. Since 2006, the Texans show up twice on this team. One is an obvious one. J.J. watt is one of the defensive

[Sean Pendergast]

linemen finally getting some respect.

[Seth Payne]

It's about time. We'll talk about JJ in a little bit. JJ was fun on social media the last few days. So JJ made this team on the defensive line. He was first team along with Aaron Donald. It sounds like they're treating him like an interior defensive lineman for purposes of this.

[Sean Pendergast]

Who, jj?

[Seth Payne]

Jj? Yep. So the other one that shows up, if I said wide receiver shows up on the PFF since 2006, all NFL

[Sean Pendergast]

team, I would say that would be Andre Johnson.

[Seth Payne]

You would say Andre Johnson, wouldn't you?

[Cole Thompson]

I. I'd say DeAndre.

[Seth Payne]

You would say DeAndre.

[Cole Thompson]

I would say DeAndre.

[Seth Payne]

Why would you say DeAndre over Andre?

[Cole Thompson]

I think because of more people look towards new. Newer, like I've always lived in the world of new is always better.

[Seth Payne]

This is purely based on scores, though.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Caller or Guest]

Okay.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, this is purely based on data.

[Cole Thompson]

Oh, then okay then. Yeah, it should be Andre then.

[Sean Pendergast]

It.

[Seth Payne]

And it's not.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's actually DeAndre.

[Seth Payne]

It's DeAndre. Now Andre loses the benefit, I guess, of the first three years of his career. I think he made a Pro bowl in like 04.

[Sean Pendergast]

So since 2006. Yeah. But Andre really didn't take off until his third year, right?

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, till. Yeah, and he really took off, like in 08. He was the best receiver in football in 08 and 09.

[Cole Thompson]

Like for three straight years too. He was unstoppable.

[Seth Payne]

He was. He was amazing.

[Sean Pendergast]

DeAndre's probably had a more consistently productive year by year.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. And DeAndre makes first team.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

So they have first team and second team. Now they, they have three receivers on the first team. Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, DeAndre Hopkins. The three second team receivers, Devonte Adams, Calvin Johnson and Tyreek Hill. My question is this. You look at those six names. Julio. Julio Jones. Well, Calvin Johnson's in the hall of Fame.

[Cole Thompson]

Right.

[Seth Payne]

Julio Jones feels like a lock.

[Sean Pendergast]

Julio Jones, 16th all time receiving yards

[Seth Payne]

feels like a lot.

[Sean Pendergast]

DeAndre's at 18th.

[Seth Payne]

Okay. Antonio Brown should be a lock. Yeah, should be. Should be a lock on field player

[Cole Thompson]

is a Hall of Fame.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. And which is what?

[Sean Pendergast]

They're not supposed to take anything off field into it.

[Cole Thompson]

Correct.

[Sean Pendergast]

But they did that with Terrell. Terrell.

[Seth Payne]

They held him out a couple of years because he was a bad team mate. Tyreek Hill, similar to Antonio Brown. Tyreek Hill's a Hall of Famer. Look at his resume. He's a Hall of Famer. And devonte Adams, I think is on that track as well. Put it this way, of these six guys who are first or second team, I feel like DeAndre is the one who like to me far and away has the least amount of buzz like that.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. I think that especially when the. A lot of times when you're atypical, it's not rewarded. And DeAndre is atypical compared to those other guys. And it. His speed wasn't like the blistering, menacing. Right, Right. He still affected coverages. People didn't want him running after the catch. But I don't think that people look at him in that same category.

[Caller or Guest]

But.

[Sean Pendergast]

But he is like he's 18th. He's 18th in all time receiving yards. The guys who aren't in the hall of Fame above him who are eligible are Steve Smith, senior Reggie Wayne, who's been a final.

[Seth Payne]

Who both been finalists a couple times.

[Cole Thompson]

Both probably eventually will find their way in or least be in that conversation

[Seth Payne]

unless there's a log jam at wide receiver. But continue.

[Sean Pendergast]

Reggie Wayne and then Anquan Bolden is the one that like a lot of times people would compare DeAndre to Anquan Bolden somewhat. All right. It doesn't look like the way guys typically do it, but he's just so physical at the catch point and he just churns out production. And I think DeAndre was better than Anquan Bolden, but I think, I think people are going to throw him into that same category.

[Seth Payne]

I do too. So he's 18th, huh?

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

See my, my whole thing with the hall of Fame is this and this is why I think DeAndre is a much better candidate than what he's getting credit for. If you're one of the best at your position, if you're first team all pro for a period of like over a five year period of your first team all pro and. Or second team all pro.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

For most of that period of time from 2015 through 2019. The only year DeAndre Hopkins wasn't in that conversation or an actual first team all probably pro was the year that Brock Osweiler was the quarterback. The only person that could shut down DeAndre Hopkins was Brock Osweiler as his quarterback. Like it was the one year where DeAndre only had like 800 yards, 954.

[Cole Thompson]

That.

[Seth Payne]

Okay, so he's almost a thousand even with Brockster as his quarterback.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, I know. He was a quarterback skeleton key.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

That was the only. Brock was the only guy that didn't figure out a way to just throw the ball in the general direction of DeAndre Hopkins.

[Cole Thompson]

And if he, if he would have had any other quarterback find him that year and go for a thousand yards. Eight straight 1,000 yard years.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Henry Allard is the only other guy. Yeah. You know what, that's what I thought. And then I looked up just to be sure on pronunciation and I thought, I know, yeah, but okay, well, I know I'm shrugging it here, looking it up with yeah, stupid Gemini.

[Seth Payne]

Can't you pronounce either?

[Sean Pendergast]

I haven't pronounced Ellard's name name since maybe like 1998 or so.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, yeah. And he's in the top 18 or top 16. Yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

Would you consider that maybe because of what we've witnessed with devonte Adams being last year's leader in touchdown receptions and kind of the fall off of DeAndre Hopkins, that's why he's not thought about in such a prominent way.

[Seth Payne]

I don't know. I mean, devonte Adams had some big years, right. Played in a lot of big games in Green Bay. I, you know, does it hurt DeAndre Hopkins that a lot of his damage was done with a Texans team that was, was his teams? You know, by and large they were good teams, but they weren't, you know, they, they were not contending teams that DeAndre was on?

[Sean Pendergast]

I guess. And well, like the old barometer you always use is. Okay. Was there a period of time where people looked at him as the best receiver in the NFL?

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

And I don't, I don't think he was ever up at that spot.

[Seth Payne]

He weighs first team all pro, three out of like Five years.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

I mean, that's pretty good. You know, I don't know. Like I. Is it enough to where he's a slam dunk for the hall of Fame? Probably not, but I think he's gets. I think he gets under. Discussed in conversations like this all the time. DeAndre Hopkins. There's an interesting cut I saw from Jalen Ramsey over the weekend. We'll play it right here. He was on the million dollars worth of game podcast and said the only. The only wide receiver to ever put up a hundred yards on him in a game was DeAndre Hopkins at the end of 2018. And here's what it led him to do.

[Caller or Guest]

Twice for two yards type. Nah, personally D. High put on. He put over a hundred on me that game. Cause I was matched up on him at least 80% of the time. And he had probably 120 to 140 that game. Last game of the season that year. And he went to work. I remember I was hot. Right after the game. I texted my trainer and my pops in a group message. I said, as soon as I get home, we gotta get out. After it killed me today, as soon as I get home, we got to get at it.

[Seth Payne]

Would you switch the whole.

[Sean Pendergast]

Your whole training?

[Caller or Guest]

No, no, not everything. Just. Just certain stuff that he was killing me on during the game. I'm like, yo, I gotta get better at that. Specifically, like, yo, he killing me at this. I need to find out a new technique to stop that. Right. Or I need to do this differently. Like, I can't keep losing like that. He don't. He beat me on this route three times this game. I can't lose like that. No mo.

[Sean Pendergast]

That's the. You know, if John McClain is still in charge, the guy who's in charge of kind of presenting the case for the guys from Houston. That clip needs to be in there because I know they weigh that real heavily. They want to hear about the guys they competed against and what it was like. I remember, remember that was a. That was in a period when Jalen Ramsey was talking smack about anybody and everybody, including his own team, like his own quarterbacks. That, that. But he would never Talk smack about DeAndre Hopkins. That was the one. He had the eminent, like the Most respect for. DeAndre Hopkins.

[Seth Payne]

12 catches for 147 yards in the game that he's.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, like I said, it was consistent. It wasn't just a Dinkin and Duncan.

[Seth Payne]

Oh yeah. 12 catches for a buck 47. Yeah. I don't. I'm curious how people feel DeAndre Hopkins. We're getting some texts on this. During his prime years, I've never seen anything with hands like Hopkins ball be thrown to to Barnes and somehow I don't know what that means but I guessing it means, means someone's throwing it way far away. Yeah. And somehow he's get. He's getting not just two hand, not just one hand but two hands.

[Sean Pendergast]

He is the broadside of a barn. He is. Which is why Brock is the only Brock. The one quarterback who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn was the guy that couldn't get it get the ball.

[Cole Thompson]

Still to this day, the one catch that I remember the most is him against Joe Hayden on Christmas for the Pittsburgh Steelers where he tips it up to himself and then comes down with

[Seth Payne]

it one handed in the end zone.

[Cole Thompson]

In the back of the end zone.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Cole Thompson]

That's where you really realize you don't question this dude when it comes to his hands.

[Sean Pendergast]

The other the one of the best catches he ever made was negated because he himself had lined up illegally. But the one against the giants up in 2014. Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

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