Could we see Tank Dell at training camp tomorrow?

Summary

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Payne & Pendergast Podcast Summary

Episode: “Could we see Tank Dell at training camp tomorrow?”
Date: July 28, 2026
Hosts: B. Scott (in for Seth Payne), Sean Pendergast
Focus: Top stories in Houston sports—major deep-dive on the Texans, the potential return of Tank Dell at training camp, the defense’s strengths, and the evolving status of key players.

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode revolves around two central questions:

1. Will Texans wide receiver Tank Dell be back on the field for the start of training camp?
2. How do the Texans stack up in terms of their roster strengths—especially on defense—and what's the evolving narrative around key players like CJ Stroud?

The conversation blends insider insights, analysis, and the hosts’ trademark candid banter, tying in updates from Texans GM Nick Caserio and former NFL coach Todd Haley, while fielding questions from listeners and dissecting fan debates.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Viral Squirrel at the Ballpark (01:01–05:06)

• The episode opens with a humorous aside about a massive, dark-colored squirrel running wild on the field at a Detroit Tigers MLB game.
• The hosts muse about whether it could have been a mutant or genetically engineered creature, riffing on the chaos it caused at the stadium.
  • Memorable Moment:
    “This looked like they have a lab in the basement of Comerica park that they genetically engineer squirrels...and one of them escaped from the lab, possibly by mauling the security guard.” — B. Scott (03:12)
• Play-by-play banter highlights the disconnect between the intense stadium security for people versus the squirrel’s ease in reaching the field.

2. Tank Dell’s Potential Return at Texans Training Camp (05:07–08:39)

• Revisiting a June 3rd interview with Texans GM Nick Caserio for an update on Tank Dell’s injury status:
  • Quote – Nick Caserio:
    "I would say training camp seems like a reasonable time frame in terms of his availability in terms of next steps." (05:52)
• Discussion focuses on what Tank’s return means for both Dell (coming off nearly 18 months away from football) and the Texans’ offensive arsenal.
• Tank’s contract year, health, and the ripple effects on the team’s potential are highlighted.
  • “We also got to consider the fact that it’s a contract year for Tank Dell…All of those things together colliding at once. What does it look like?” — Co-host (08:16)
• The hosts speculate on what to watch tomorrow at camp and the broader impact for the offense with Dell’s presence.

3. Texans Roster Building: The CJ Stroud Question (08:39–22:05)

• Broader roster conversations unfold, with B. Scott and the co-host ranking where CJ Stroud stands in terms of "being good at his job" among Texans players.
  • CJ lands around 9th on their list when ranked by performance, not positional value.
  • Quote:
    “My goal was to try to do this exercise independent of the importance of the position, who’s good at their job. Just wanted to evaluate them in a vacuum.” — Co-host (16:26)
  • They compare CJ to Kaimi Fairbairn ("might even come ahead of Stroud last year") while discussing the team’s overall roster health.
• The critical importance of Nico Collins, Will Anderson Jr., Derek Stingley Jr., and other emerging stars is emphasized, along with offseason acquisitions and debates about offensive/defensive strengths.

4. Todd Haley’s Bold Texans Defense Comparison (11:05–14:46)

• Replay of highlights from Sunday’s Todd Haley interview:
  • Quote:
    “I don’t see any weaknesses in this group. I really don’t...I would not want to play this defense as an offensive coordinator.” — Todd Haley (11:36)
  • Haley compares the Texans’ defense to the legendary 1985 Chicago Bears.
• They weigh Haley’s claim, echoing the sense that the Texans’ only “weakness” is the lack of a third pass rusher—a clear "luxury problem."

5. Evaluating Defensive Weaknesses & Injury Luck (24:00–28:59)

• The hosts dig into whether the Texans have any true defensive soft spots ("the gator kill spot") and how the lineup may absorb injuries, especially with the loss of E.J. Speed and hypothetical issues with Jalen Pitre.
  • Listener Call-In:
    "Texans QB1 is the alligator kill speed...What WTF are y’all talking about? With no weak spot on this team." (22:05)
  • Co-host Rebuts:
    “I said on the defense...If there’s a weakness, tell me what it is.” (22:33)
• Concerns raised about linebacker depth, injury regression, and roles for backup players in camp.
• On Jalen Pitre:
  • “If...it loses Jalen Petrie for any stretch. Right? Like, is the superpower...the fact that their base defense is their nickel defense?” — Co-host (27:00)
• The high bar for this defense is repeatedly described as “regal problems” given the talent depth.

6. Fan Interaction, Banter & Closing Observations (29:13–31:27)

• Further listener feedback about the defense's only “friendly fire” problem (Henry To’o To’o cited).
• A running theme of friendly razzing between hosts and listeners—light but passionate correction, highlighting the show’s engaging, community vibe.
• Ongoing allusions to “regal” or “oligarch problems” illustrate how rare and enviable their defensive issues are.

7. Viral Financial Literacy Debates in Sports (31:27–37:52)

• The hosts riff on a viral social trend: athletes and celebrities discussing their underwhelming take-home pay after taxes, and their often shocking lack of financial literacy.
  • Quote:
    “The only thing other than Father Time that's undefeated is Uncle Sam.” — Co-host (34:41)
  • Critique: The real issue isn’t taxes or agent fees, but the expectation to make extravagant purchases for relatives.
  • “You can buy your mom a nicer crib than the one that she raised you in…without going…get[ting] her a million-dollar crib. Like there is an in-between.” — Co-host (35:25)
• The hosts reflect on the advances brought by NIL money and financial literacy training for college athletes.
• Memorable Note:
  Woody Marks reportedly made more in NIL at USC than as an NFL rookie—a reminder of the shifting landscape for modern players.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We need Kevin Harlan on the call…Kevin Harlan’s the best at calling things that have nothing to do with the actual play on the field.”
  — B. Scott (04:55)
• “This is the life of luxury, the house spoiled, the embarrassment of riches that we’re talking about with the Texans defense.”
  — Co-host (14:26)
• Todd Haley:
  “I don’t see any weaknesses in this group. I really don’t… I would not want to play this defense as an offensive coordinator.” (11:36)
• On CJ Stroud’s decline in perceived value:
  “He would have been in the top three on this list after his rookie year.” — B. Scott (19:24)
• On defending their defensive claims:
  “I said the defense. We didn’t say…Go ahead and text back, since you’re correcting us. Text back with your weakness for the defense. Because I tried.” — Co-host (23:12)
• On financial literacy in the league:
  “The only thing other than Father Time that’s undefeated is Uncle Sam. He will find you one way or another.” — Co-host (34:41)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 01:01–05:06 — Squirrel chaos at Detroit Tigers game
• 05:07–08:39 — Tank Dell’s status and training camp outlook
• 11:05–14:46 — Todd Haley compares Texans’ defense to 1985 Bears
• 15:01–21:20 — “Top 10 Texans” debate, CJ Stroud’s standing
• 22:05–24:52 — Fan disputes and in-depth defense discussion
• 24:52–28:59 — Injury luck, defensive superpowers, backup depth
• 31:27–36:45 — Viral trends: athlete pay breakdowns & financial lessons
• 37:52–38:18 — Episode moves towards close (before ads and promos)

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Tone, Style, & Takeaways

The show maintains a playful, knowledgeable, H-Town-centric tone, blending sharp football insights with easy banter and offbeat tangents. The hosts are candid, occasionally combative with listeners, but always engaging and plugged into the pulse of Houston sports.

Essential Takeaways for Listeners:

• Tank Dell’s camp participation is imminent and hugely consequential for the Texans’ offense.
• The Texans’ defense—by both internal and external judgment—has reached rarefied air, with questions now focused more on luxury/backup options than clear weaknesses.
• CJ Stroud’s star has dimmed relative to peers, and the roster is stacked, stirring new debates about hierarchy and future contract considerations.
• Financial literacy and the culture around athlete wealth are under increasing scrutiny, with NIL and youth education changing the landscape.

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For Houston fans or avid NFL followers, this episode is a high-energy, humorous, and insightful primer on where the Texans stand entering training camp.

Transcript

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[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Sports Radio 610 presents Pain and Pender Gas. I couldn't tell B. Scott, could you tell on the TV here in studio? So B. Scott and I have the TV on. We, we have, we have on KHOU here in the morning watching, watching the news and, and it flips over to CBS Mornings and they. The video is a major league baseball game last night. I didn't catch which stadium it was, but there was some sort of vermin running around on the field.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, it's a good way to put some kind of vermin.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

It was either a black squirrel or a skunk that doesn't have any white in its.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Not that thing was too big to be a squirrel.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

So you think it was a skunk like the, like a bizarro albino skunk? Yeah, maybe it was an all black skunk.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I wanted to say that it could have been like a, a, like a possum, but, but possums aren't normally that color.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Then they don't have furry tails like that kind of a furry tail.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

Right.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

If you know what it is we're talking about. If you saw the same video, text in and let us know. I'm genuinely curious about this.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But shout out to the men of that stadium of that ballpark because no less than like a dozen guys go out there and get after it trying to capture this thing.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Producer Byron has information here. Byron laid on us.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, it was a squirrel at the Tigers. The squirrel, it was like I hear this morning while I walked in, they were playing it on espn.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Okay.

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

So it was a squirrel that was.

[Co-host/Analyst]

That was a humongous. The biggest squirrel I've ever seen.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

It look genetically engineered. Yeah. It was big and it was dark. I've never seen it. That. That's. I mean, my eyes are not deceiving me. Right. Like, that was not normal.

[Co-host/Analyst]

No.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Gray colored squirrel.

[Co-host/Analyst]

No. If that was a normal squirrel, I feel like maybe they would have even let him make it.

[Anna Garcia (True Crime Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You know, like the squirrels in your neighborhood.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Byron, you remember, I don't know if you remember the squirrels of Huntsville. Like, I've seen a couple. Oh, dude. The squirrels in Huntsville kind of ran the place at times. But this didn't look like one of those. No, this looked like a. That's why I confused it with a potential armadillo or opossum or something like that.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

This looked like they have a lab in the basement of Comerica park that they genetically engineer squirrels and they're toying around with genetically engineering a gigantic pitch dark black squirrel. And one of them escaped from the lab, possibly by mauling the security guard.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah. I'm curious. I kind of want to go back, do like the. There's this trend online now where people are doing like the TikTok of my Netflix doc and they do like the opening shot of their Netflix doc.

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[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

DeAndre Hopkins did one.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There we go.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

He did.

[Co-host/Analyst]

He did. I want to know the backstory of how did the squirrel get that far? Like where. What's the squirrel's origin story? Where did it come from?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yes.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And how did it get that far

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

with the security guard that the squirrel mauled. Yeah. Still with scratches on his face. Soon a sling on his left arm. War wounds, a crutch under his right arm. And he's here to tell his story about how he got mauled by some mutant black squirrel.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Where's that dog? On squirrel. Yeah. Look what he did to me.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Detroit's a dangerous city. Who knew the most dangerous things were the squirrels?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No 100%. And I'd like to point out too, I've been going to either Daikin before that Minute Maid park on a regular for no less than seven years now. And I still get. Hey, can you flip your badge around? Can we make. Basically, can we make sure that you're supposed to be here? All of the checks and balances to make sure that the human beings that are in these ballparks are supposed to be there.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Namely me. Somebody who's there all the time and they should recognize. And this squirrel makes it all the way to the field, dude.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And it took like 10 people to corral him. Yeah, it was amazing.

[Anna Garcia (True Crime Podcast Host)]

I.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

We needed Kevin Harlan on that game to call the He. Kevin Harlan's the best at calling things that have nothing to do with the actual play on the field. All right, so the cat is elusive.

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[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Look at the moves on the cat. All right, so just a follow up to our question. Training camp question of the day for the Texans. What is Tank Dell? This was back on June 3rd. Okay, so June 3rd was the last time. That's the last time we've had Nick Casserio on this show. Now he's going to join us next week. Next Tuesday, August 4th, Nick Casario is going to sit down with Seth and I out of training camp.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So available to Media tomorrow at 8:30.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yep.

[Co-host/Analyst]

In with pain and Pendergast. Next Tuesday. Next Tuesday, August 4th. There you go.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

We do it after SummerSlam so Nick and I can break that whole thing. There you go. So. So this was nick back on June 3rd. The answer to this simple question. Are we going to see Tank Dell practice here at some point?

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

Yes, I would say more than likely it'll probably be in training camp. You know, we have about, I don't know, however many days left here in the spring. But there are certain things that he's able to do. He's done some things on the field, maybe separately, kind of off to the side. I think the goal is training camp, so we'll kind of see if he stays on schedule. But I mean, nobody's worked harder. Nobody's had a better attitude, you know, talking about a player that hasn't played football in almost 18 months or however long it's been. But you know, his attitude, his approach, he's chomping at the bit and he's certainly anxious and wants to be out there. By the same token, we want to make sure that we're taking care of him and doing the right things and putting him in a position where he can go out there and be the best version of himself. So I would say training camp seems like a reasonable time frame in terms of his availability in terms of next steps.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Okay, so that tomorrow is training camp.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

This should be at the top of the list of things that we're looking for out there that people should be curious about. I think it would have been on the list anyways. Really high up the list. But repurposing that bit of audio right there, I think. Hammers at home. I think, you know, Tank dropping more of these workout videos recently would seem to be his way of saying I'm on track to, to. To be doing stuff at training camp. That's how I interpret it at least. So good. I'm glad we found that audio. So tomorrow is the day. Nick. Nick said that on June 3rd and he mentioned training camp multiple times. Tomorrow is the first day of training camp. Will we see Tank Dell fully activated?

[Co-host/Analyst]

I just feel like it's got so many implications. What is Tank Dell? Back to the question, you know, obviously for Tank, but more specifically for the team, how that changes the offense, how we look at them, how we view them, what their potential actually is. I think, not that it hinges on Tank Dell per se, but then it also kind of does because if he's out there, then that's just a, that's just a. Another weapon. Whereas we're having the conversation or we asked the question earlier in this exercise when y' all were doing the 10 questions leading up to training camp, what are the non Nico wide receivers? Well, if you can throw Tank Dale in there, that is, I mean that's just a huge game changer for me.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Huge, man.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And then on top of it. And again, this is more specific to Tank in his own personal situation. We also got to consider the fact that it's a contract year for Tank deal. Like what, what does Tank Dell recovering from traumatic injury in contract season look like? And first year in the offense? All of those things together colliding at once. What does it look like?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

That's a, that is a really good question. I didn't even thought about the contract. I've just been focused on him. As you should, getting back to playing football again, because it's the cart before the horse.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But that is the next logical question.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

After that, it is definitely the cart before the horse. But if we can play the hypothetical game for a little bit, why not? This is a team that's going to be paying a lot of guys pretty soon, including the quarterback who really likes Tank. Tell, you know, like he, you know, Tank Dell is he CJ's guy. So, you know, CJ himself has to get his stroke back. Like the question after CJ's rookie year would be like how much stroke does CJ have in the building to make sure the Tanks around for a second contract. Now the question is two years later, you know, CJ's the CJ Stroud get his stroke back in the building. You know, I say stroke in the building. You know, Nick and d' Amico are going to make all the decisions, but you could have foreseen a day, you know, back when CJ Was winning Rookie of the Year, where they'd maybe get his input on things like that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Back when, back when CJ Was winning Rookie of the Year, it was unthinkable. Just the concept, the idea that by 2027, perhaps Tank and CJ aren't here anymore.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I don't think you would. Maybe you would have predicted one maybe you know, that, look, they're already paying Nico. Maybe they have to make a business decision at some point. But you would have thought at the very least one of those guys would be here. And ideally, both of them are foundational pieces and are here for as long as they're in their prime health and all of that sort of thing. But now Tanks in a contract year after having not played in a year and a half or whatever it's been. And we've got all of these questions with CJ Stroud.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yep. All right. Pain and pender gas B. Scott in for Seth Payne today. Seth back tomorrow. You and Zach Gelb have been doing some radio on Sundays recently. I don't know if people listening realize we have weekend programing here on Sports Radio 610.

[Co-host/Analyst]

We back, baby.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Soon to be 95. Seven the fan.

[Co-host/Analyst]

That's right.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And it's. And that's going to continue to grow and grow. So that's this is fun. This takes me back to the days where it was Sports Radio 610 live and local, seemingly pillar to post. Right?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yep. Nights and weekends.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And you guys sound great. You had Todd Haley on this past Sunday.

[Co-host/Analyst]

We did Todd Haley this past Sunday. Warren Moon the Sunday before that.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

You want to set this one up here?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Well, so we were asking Todd Haley, you know, a host of questions, right? About really these were offensive questions talking about CJ Stroud and he volunteers in an answer about CJ Stroud, about the offense and of course, Todd Haley, as you guys know, and if you don't know, former offensive coordinator and, you know, head coach in the NFL. So he comes from, you know, from an offensive mind with an offensive bent. But he goes straight to the defense. And we were surprised to hear him make this comparison about the Texans defense.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

I don't see any weaknesses in this group. I really don't. You know, and if health isn't an issue, like I said, I mean Reed being there, I think is big. He's kind of a quarterback ball hawk type dude that the ball just comes to him. You know, I like the entire group and I love d' Ameco and the energy that he brings to the group. And I would, I would not want to play this defense as an offensive coordinator.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So. And so the comparison there, though, leading up to that question, in a previous answer, he says this is the 80. This is like the 85 bears.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

Wow.

[Co-host/Analyst]

He compares the Texans to the 85 bears. And the answer you just heard there was his justification, his reasoning for that.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And it's because I had to follow up on that. Like, why do you think you've seen a lot. Why do you think that this team is comparable to the 85 Bears? And then that was the answer you heard. Because I see no weaknesses. And the, the parting shot there is. I wouldn't want to face this defense.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yes. That's a former offensive coordinator saying that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yes.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Former head coach saying that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And has coached in a Super Bowl.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Right. Reed, who he's bringing up there, obviously is Reed Blankenship.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Correct.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And I, I kind of posed that question. I did. I'm doing a piece for tomorrow for the Houston Press. Three questions about the defense heading into training camp that we've got. And, and one of them is, quite honestly, with the signing of Reed Blankenship. And I'll throw the drafting of Kaden McDonald in there, too.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Does this defense even have a weakness right now? Do they have anything remotely resembling a kill spot on it? You know, like, you ever watch Swamp people back in the day?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And, you know, they. These are all a bunch of gator hunters in Louisiana. It's hard to kill a gator, but they've got that soft spot. Yep. On the top of the head. So anytime you, Anytime you saw Troy Landry. Chewed him. Chewed him. Anytime you saw Troy Landry kill a gator, it was always shooting one very specific spot.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yep.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

I don't know that the Texans have that soft spot on the top of their alligator dome.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So I can tell that they don't because of another question that we've asked in this exercise. Cole Thompson, I think, came up with this question as well. Shout out to Cole, will the real or will the new. Was it the new Derek Martinez?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

It was question number eight. Will the new. In the countdown of 10 questions to camp that we've been doing at 6:25 every day, will the new Derek Barnett please stand up? That's exactly what it is.

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And this is kind of. It's a little bit of a Slim Shady reference there. I, I see what Cole was doing. He was kind of going for an Eminem Slim Shady reference, but going with the idea with, like, with the Texans. Derek Barnett to your point, is there a weakness on this defense? We're here up here talking about who's going to back up the two all pro defensive ends.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Right.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Like that's the life of luxury, the house spoiled, the embarrassment of riches that we're talking about right now with the Texans in this defense. It's like, well, what's going to happen when one of those all pros has to take a breather?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Do they have another guy that could go out and get eight to double

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

digit sacks or five interceptions like everybody did last year in the secondary? There you go.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So, so there's your weakness. It's that oh my God, poor Texans. They don't have a third pass rusher to terrorize offenses.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

I saw an interesting one too that you had put in the rundown. Just going back to your show with Zach on Sunday.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Because we talked a lot about the top 100 with CJ Stroud and how it's looking more and more like he will not be in the top 100 this year. Oh yeah. When he's been 20th and 39th his first two years.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

So his peers have voted him. You know, if you believe in the voting system. His peers have voted him the a top 40 player in the NFL the first two. The first two seasons he's played in the league. It would appear as though his third season has not impressed them. Thusly.

[Co-host/Analyst]

No.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

So you pose an interesting question. Nevermind top 100. Nevermind top 10 QB in the NFL. Is CJ Stroud a top 10 player on this team?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, and I'm throwing that. I'm throwing that to you because Zach and I did this exercise. So Zach kind of threw.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Oh, you want me to workshop this thing live on the air?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Well, so. And this will be fun. Cause like I've already done it and like once you start rattling off names. So the exercise on Sunday was where does C.J. stroud rank? Like we didn't do the top 10 framing. We just did. Hey, how many names will you get to? Where does CJ Stroud rank amongst his own teammates? Amongst Texans players at being good at their job. Yes.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Because there's two different arguments here and I know you knew where I'm going with this. He is unquestionably the most important player on the team.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yes.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Because of the position he plays.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Right.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

He's valuable. So he. There is value to C.J. stroud that. That transcends safeties.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Correct. Or guards. Yes.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Or things like that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And so my goal was to try to do this exercise independent of the importance of the position, who's good at their job. Just wanted to evaluate them in a vacuum. Now, I did cheat a little bit. Before we start, I do want to tell you, just as a qualifier, I did cheat a little bit, and I just left Kaimi Fairbairn off the list.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

I was just gonna say.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I said no kickers, no specialists. Leave him off the list because.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Exactly what I was just gonna say.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But honestly, it's a little bit of an indictment on Stroud and credit to Fairbairn for being a really good kicker, but a little bit of an indictment to Stroud because had I left him on the list. Fairbairn, that is, Left the kicker on the list.

[Digital Local Ads Promoter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

He would have been ahead of Stroud on this list.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

He was better at his job last year.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There you go.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Kaime set the record for field goals in a season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

All right.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

So it's just real football players.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Real football players.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Sorry. Sorry. Kaimi, if you're listening.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So here's how I do.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And punters, too. Whichever punter ends up winning the job. Although. Although the one rookie they brought in has a little bit of juice to his game. The. The Kroger. The kid they picked up. He's not the rookie. Stonehouse is the rookie. The Kroger kid they picked up from New Orleans has a highlight reel of passes that he threw back in South Carolina.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Stay tuned. Yeah, stay tuned.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Still not a real player, though. So.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So just to give it away real quick, and I'll let you do this. I had him ninth.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

You had him ninth. Okay.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I had C.J. stroud ninth. Barely checking.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Let's see if I get the same eight.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Let's do it. Let's do it.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Okay.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Who's the best player on this team?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Will Anderson Jr. Is the best football player on this team.

[Co-host/Analyst]

All right, so we're agreed there on the top number two.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Number two on this team is. I'll go. Derek Stingley Jr.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Okay, this gets interesting because I think there's three guys who are candidates for number two. I had somebody else. Go ahead.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Daniel Hunter.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

All right.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I had him at number two.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

You had him number two. I think you can interchange either of them. I expect them to be within a fraction of each other when their names get revealed.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

You know, within a. Within a few picks of each other when their names get revealed in the top 100, because they'll both make it.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Of note, three picks in. You have three defensive players.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yep. I would say the next one would be Nico Collins.

[Co-host/Analyst]

All right, so You've got my top four just sort of reordered.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yep.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I went Will Daniil, then Nico and then Derek. Sting.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah, Nico had a Sting.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

I did.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I did.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Stingley was really good this year.

[Co-host/Analyst]

He was.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

He was better the year before, I thought.

[Digital Local Ads Promoter]

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[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Still. Still deserving to be all pro. I mean, he's. I mean, we're really talking about levels of greatness here. We're not talking about. Guy was good or bad.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

I would say Kamar Lasseter was better at his job last year than C.J. stroud.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Okay, so now we're at 4. 5. 4, 5. Now we're at 5.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

Okay.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

I would say Jalen Petrie was better at his job last year than cj.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Made my list as well.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Okay. I would say Caleb Bullock better than CJ Stroud.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You're on it. I got one more ahead of CJ Stroud.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Z Al Shayer.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There you go.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

So it's basically all the guys that have gotten some sort of accolade in the off season. Yep. Or some sort of recognition.

[Co-host/Analyst]

That's eight guys, right?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

That's eight guys.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Do you have anybody else?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

I would say, you know, he didn't. Boy, if we're just talking about better at his job, are we holding it against David Montgomery that he wasn't on the Texans last year? I wouldn't, you know, like, is David. Is. Is. Is David Montgomery. He's clearly. Clearly plays a position that's not nearly as important as quarterback because. And this is no disrespect to David Montgomery, running back has become the most interchangeable position in the sport. Now, there are ways to set yourself apart, and there are ways David Montgomery sets. There are things he's excellent at, better at than most running back, short yardage, physicality. I think probably the type of guy he is behind the scenes factors in. So I'm just bringing that up to workshop it with you for a little bit. I'm not necessarily saying, but I think it goes to show you that we would. Even having a conversation like this is kind of indicative of where CJ's at versus he would have been. He would have been in the top three on this list after his rookie year.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Dude, not only that, you're talking about David Montgomery. I struggled with the ninth spot, which again, CJ Stroud came in at the ninth spot for me, but I had not just David Montgomery, but another guy in this conversation.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Was Tommy Togi better at his job than CJ Stroud last year?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Now. Now we have crossed a bridge.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Was Omni Togi Better at his job than C.J. stroud last year.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It's a fair question. I did not have time to toge. In my mix. He. I'm gonna say no because he wasn't even in the mix for me in this conversation, but I think it's a fair point.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

He's really good at his job, man.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You know who was, though, in this conversation for me?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Is it. Wait, wait, wait.

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

Go ahead.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

On the offensive side or defensive side?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Oh, that's gonna be a dead giveaway. Offensive side.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Offensive side, better at his job.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You've already. And mind you, you've already.

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[Co-host/Analyst]

Montgomery, who is finally or firmly planted in this conversation. No.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Was it somebody on the Dalton Schultz?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Dalton Schultz.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Dalton Schultz.

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah. Who for me, tapped in at 10.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

So I had C.J. stroud, 9. Dalton Schultz.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Dalton put up really good numbers. I. I think CJ And Dalton are really. They're probably pretty close.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

But I would put CJ Ahead of him like you did is exactly what.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And I did leave David Montgomery just outside. But. But those three were in that conversation for me. For the ninth guy.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Think of the top 10 for the Texans. Sort of like in baseball, where you've got wins above replacement. Oh, that's what somebody saying on the text page. Yeah, someone saying on the text page. Also, I spit my coffee out when B. Scott brought up the Huntsville Squirrels. They ran that campus, often with violence.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Dude, I am not telling a story here. This is a lived experience of walking up on a squirre, us looking at each other dead in the eye and having to make a decision.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Okay, this is where. This is where. Texter, you need to listen, okay? And I'm going to put your business out there. Your last four digits of your number are 9,664. Texans QB1 is the alligator kill speed. Well, he says alligator bait. What WTF are y' all talking about? With no weak spot on this team. I said on the defense.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Defense, bro.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Defense. Listen. And it's not alligator bait. It's the kill spot on the top of the alligator's head.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Not listening at all.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

You got to listen. I appreciate. No, look, dude, I appreciate you listening to the show, but you can't come in correcting us on a text with complete lack of intricate listening skills, is there? You just can't do that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Is there anything.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Maybe it'll be better on FM for this guy? Maybe some static.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Right now. Kind of bled out the fact that I said defense.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Look at you. Provide an excuse.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

I'm just trying to. Yeah. He's a loyal listener.

[Co-host/Analyst]

The listener or listen listener.

[Emotional Storyteller]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Sean loves you because he just. He just came up with an excuse for you.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah, man.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But. Yeah, now, come on, man.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

We said the defense. We didn't say.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And also to the point, WTF are you talking. Go ahead and text back, since you're correcting us. Text back with your weakness for the defense. Because I tried.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

In an apology to me. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Moth Podcast Promoter]

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[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Well, yeah, if there's. There is no kill spot on this defense. The kid. I'll tell you what, one of my other questions is for my Houston Press article I'm writing for today.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

All right.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Can they have the same type of injury luck as a defense this year that they did last year?

[Co-host/Analyst]

I'm glad you bring it up.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Those. Name, those seven. Name those seven defensive names you have. You have ahead of C.J. stroud as being better at their job than C.J. last year. Those seven names missed a combined total of five games last year. Three of them were Jalen Petrie with a concussion.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

So the other.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Can you count on that?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

The other six, you know, and Kamari was like, week 18. They sat him out. Like, he probably could have played if he, you know, if they had to win that game to get the one seed or something like that. Yeah, he probably could have played. So you're talking about, you know, concussions are just weird. They can happen. You know, I'm talking like, the normal bumps and bruises, like Will Anderson, the ankle issue he had the first couple years, they basically missed as a collective foundational half dozen or so guys, just a couple of games with bumps. And, you know, Aziz missed the Raiders game.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, that thing. So I'm glad you mentioned the injuries because, like, I know that the afternoon show did a similar exercise or they just asked the question of can the defense be as good or better as they were last year? And I think Ron's justification for saying no is because he did not want to just grant them the injury fortune that they had last year.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah, he's.

[Co-host/Analyst]

He's doing a calculation of, like, this war of attrition that happens in football of, like, man, they. They just can't get that lucky again. Which I think is a fair point, but also relevant to this group of Texans because. And right on time. Sean caldwell in our YouTube chat, he points out. And I think this is a fair point. Defensive weakness. Who feels E.J. speed's role, which I think we did a version of that in our questions. Talking about the linebacker depth. That's a fair point because injury is going to be like the question of can the defense replicate what it did last year. And oh, by the way, they've already had a fairly significant injury to the defense before they even play a downer football.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

E.J. speed played a lot of snaps for this team last year. I think Seth. Seth has the number. Typically when we bring up EJ Speed, I've heard Seth say it. I think it's like he played like 45% of the stats.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I believe that's the, that's the number that he.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

So he was on the field a lot. So if you're looking for other guys for us to keep an eye on it. Training camp this year. You know, I think obviously Aziz Al Shayer and Henry Toa. Toa are your top two guys. They, they play a lot of nickel with Jalen Petrie out there. Jalen Petrie, he's your third linebacker. He's kind of your third linebacker. But, you know, something happens to Jalen Petrie. You know, we've posed that question before. Jalen Petrie is such a unique player.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Who is the backup to Jalen Petrie? The backup is. You play base defense. Yeah, that's the backup. The backup isn't. You throw another Jalen Petrie out there because there's only one.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah. And they tried to do it a little bit with Miles Bryant and respect to Miles Bryant, but that's just not the same thing.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Jalen Petrie. So you go to play more base defense. So now this all of a sudden turns guys like Wade Wood as guys like Jamal Hill.

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

Hill.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yep.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Guys like, you know, even Aiden Fisher. I know he's a seventh round pick. But it gets you, it gets you watching these guys out at camp because they. One of them is probably in the running to be the backup plan to something happening to Jalen Petrie. Yeah, they'd still play some nickel because it's the NFL. You're not just going to be in base the whole time, but on first and second down, you're probably going to be in it a lot more than you would be with a healthy Jalen Petrie.

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

But.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But it makes it a fair question of do the Texans. Does the Texans defense lose its superpower if for some reason it loses Jalen Petrie for any stretch. Right. Like, is the superpower in the Texans the fact that their base defense is their nickel defense and that their nickel defense is their base defense, as opposed to without Jalen Petrie having to play a much more traditional based defense.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

But to your original point about my question, is there a weakness on this defense now that they've signed Reed Blankenship to lock down that safety spot, which I think too, and Seth makes this point a lot, I think you're going to get a better version of Kalen Bullock with Reed Blankenship out there, hopefully. So, you know, probably can roam around a little bit more. Yeah, do kind of those Hawk.

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[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Things that he does. And then with, you know, the drafting of McDonald helping shore up the interior. I say shore up the interior. Played fine last year on the D line, but he's certainly a nice. He's an interesting piece. He's a rookie, so I don't want to get too out over my skis with him. But to your original point, when you talked about the Derek Barnett question from a week or so ago, like, these are the things we're talking about. Backup line. Excuse me, backup linebacker, backup defensive end, the other safety. Even if there's a world, if there's a world that's better than first world problems.

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

Yes.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

That's the Texans defense right now.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Like royalty, I guess.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

These are. These are monarchy.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

These are regal problems. Yeah, regal from monarchy problems. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I'm not mad at it.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Oligarch problems.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There you go. Yeah, there you go.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

All right. Pain and Pender gas. B. Scott in for Seth C. Pain. Okay, fellas, this is not the guy who I just corrected, by the way. But this is a guy sticking up for the guy.

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

Okay?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Okay, fellas, we have jobs that take us away from the radio. Don't sit on us because we like to participate in the show. No, not sitting on you. I'm just correcting somebody the same way this person was correcting us.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And we're under the assumption, am I

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

not allowed to correct the corrector?

[Co-host/Analyst]

Well, let's, let's break down the. The like kind of break down the barrier here. This is all in good fun, right? Like, we're. We're just. We're just joshing.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Having a good time.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

If I saw you in person, I would be nice to you.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah. What are we really good friends if we can't, like, needle each other a little bit here and there?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

That's. That's. That's right.

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[Co-host/Analyst]

We're family.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

That's right, B. Scott. All right, people weighing in. Defensive weakness. Henry Toa Toa and friendly fire.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Okay, fair enough.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Toa. Toa's got to chill out with the friendly fire. Probably a little bit. Fair enough.

[Caller/Listener]

Fair enough.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Mobile quarterbacks. Speaking of Henry Toa, Toa. Mobile quarterbacks. Could be it. They. They have had their issue with mobile quarterbacks. It's. Except, I guess. Except Josh Allen.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

They've had their.

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[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Right. They've had a plan for him.

[Emotional Storyteller]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

There's that black squirrel video again on espn. That thing is. That's a beast.

[Co-host/Analyst]

That is a big old squirrel. That's not the Huntsville squirrel. No, I'm gonna tell you that now.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

We get a lot of people weighing in on the black squirrel. Lots of black. They call them black cat squirrels, I guess, in East Texas. It does look like a cat.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, man. When you mentioned it, I said, no way that's a squirrel.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

They've got every. They literally have every single, like, maintenance worker at the ballpark surrounding this thing trying to catch it.

[Co-host/Analyst]

It's like everybody that's got on a navy blue shirt and khaki pants.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Come out here right now. You're needed.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And this in this thing, it is. Oh, nice job. Someone just threw a towel over it and they caught it.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah, well, that's what they had been trying to do. But the squirrel is elusive.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

He looked like he got away, as

[Co-host/Analyst]

Kevin Harlan would say.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah, it looks like this thing is tailor made for yakety sacks, you know,

[Co-host/Analyst]

dude, where was Kevin Harlan when we

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

truly needed him in this moment? Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Come on now.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Someone said that if you. If you're able to get the video of it, that the play by play guy, maybe we'll go find it. Had a. Had a great call of this, actually.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I hope he did. I hope he played by the moment.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Channeled some. Some Kevin Harlan.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

All right. Shifting gears for a second. I am still on my Twitter timeline. The algorithm is still feeding me financial videos of athletes or celebrities telling me how little. Well, one of two things. Telling me how little money nine figures is.

[Co-host/Analyst]

What is this trend? I don't know why Are they doing this?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And I clicked on a couple of them and now I. That's all. I get fed. Now the good news is I'm starting to get some more sensible ones or more fun ones fed. Me too. Like, I played. I don't know if I was with you last week, B. Scott, or if Seth was here, but I played one of Jameis Winston. No, Seth was. He was me and Seth talking about it. Jameis Winston was a delight to listen to him talk about his first deposit, his first direct deposit he got from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of $13.4 million or something. And he talked about how amazing it was to log into his bank account and see $13 million in it. It was classic Jamis.

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And he spent two minutes talking about the recliner that he bought his diabetic grandmother.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Love it.

[Caller/Listener]

Who.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

You know, who. Who was on her feet all day because she's a nurse. So I'm getting fed. Stuff like this and stuff like what we're about to play, which is, I guess, Roan from Barstool.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Who shared some of my frustration with some of these videos starring athletes that seem to think that they're the only ones that pay taxes on their income.

[Caller/Listener]

You know, it has been endlessly pissing me the off. There's a trend right now where athletes are like, how did you spend your first million? Or other athletes like J.J. redick talking about, like, how 10. What $10 million does for an NBA player. And every single one of them are like, well, what you don't realize is uncle Sam takes 50% off the top. As if they're the only people who pay taxes. Everybody pays taxes. If you work at McDonald's, you have to give a bunch of it to taxes. If you make $100,000 a year, you have to give a bunch of it to taxes. Talk about tone deaf dudes who are like $40 million. Actually, you have to give your mom $150,000 car. You have to pay off a house for your dad. It's like, shut the up. That's. That is tone deaf. That is infuriating.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

I actually got into a back and forth with this. About this with Mike Meltzer over the. Over the weekend because he saw me tweet about it. Yeah. And in. So he was like. He wasn't hardcore defending the, you know, the people I'm arguing or the people I'm pointing at kind of. But he's like, you know, could. Could it be that. That they see. What did Meltzer say? Oh, could it be that he Sees like the other multimillionaires that it's not just. They're not just W2. Like these guys are all. These players are all getting W2s that sometimes they see these CEOs out there that are getting stock options and things like that. That there's like, there's these ways around and things like that. I said, well, Mike, a couple of things I know you know this. You do pay tax on stock options as well once they get exercise.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Right.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Like Uncle Sam comes for you at some point regardless of what the form of income is.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

The only thing other than Father Time that's undefeated is Uncle Sam.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yes.

[Co-host/Analyst]

He will find you one way or another.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And if you notice, the ones that I have that I take the most issue with aren't the ones that talk about the taxes necessarily or even the agency fees and things like that. It's the ones that act like part of the to do list when you get your $100 million contract is you have to buy a bugatti for your 10 favorite relatives.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

You've got to buy a mansion for your mom that she will have to pay property taxes on in perpetuity.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

I don't think they realize that, like those are the things you can't just

[Co-host/Analyst]

find a regular old subdivision.

[Nick Caserio (Texans Executive)]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You know, just like a normal house

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

you will be able to pay the property taxes on after you're done playing.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yes.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Like you can buy your mom a nicer crib than the one that she raised you in. Thank you. Without buying. Without going to River Oaks or whatever. The nicest neighborhood ever. And getting her a million dollar crib. Like there is an in between. How do I know it? Because most of us live in places like this. Most of us are not at the very, very bottom of the food chain. Most of us ain't rich and just live in a regular old house, man.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

And you can have nice neighbors and nice things put in a pool.

[Co-host/Analyst]

Yeah.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Do all those things you could.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You know what? And it's not out of the question to buy your mom a Toyota or a Link to go to West Point Lincoln instead of getting her a Bugatti or a Royce.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Absolutely.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You don't have to do that.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

They have new and certified pre owned there.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I'm telling you.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Over a thousand on the lot B. Scott knows he bought one from them.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I'm a normal guy with a normal nice car.

[Todd Haley (Former NFL Coach)]

Right.

[Co-host/Analyst]

You can do that.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

You can do that.

[Co-host/Analyst]

And I've never gotten a $13 million check. Just for the record.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

No, no. No, me neither. You know, Joe Hayden was the one where I'm like, well, and then once. Once I was done, he's like, I got this $12 million bonus. It was 7 million after taxes. I'm like, all right, here we go with the taxes. He's like, and then once I set my parents up with $3 million of their own, I'm like, whoa, What? Like, that's your choice, bro.

[Co-host/Analyst]

But you know what it does show, though, Sean?

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Analyst]

The fact that their. Their financial literacy does not come until after they've squandered.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Right, right. For a lot of them, because they're

[Co-host/Analyst]

saying things that the rest of us adults that just live in the regular real world are saying. Yeah, you got to pay your taxes.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

I think this is the best part about nil in college is not only do you get money where you need to have financial literacy to manage it, and I say this as somebody who has operated in my adult life with not great financial literacy. Okay. But I think there's schools out there, too, that are making it part of the curriculum for the athletes. You're getting this nil money. You're going to take this. It may not even be a course that they're getting credit for. It may be that they bring in one of the finance professors, and after practice for a week, they come in and do an hour of financial literacy stuff. I think it's great. Yeah, I think it's great.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I might sidebar this with Woody Marks, who famously told somebody around here that he made more money in his last year at USC than he did as a rookie.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

He did.

[Co-host/Analyst]

I'm curious on what. So what was the financial literacy that went with that? Because I imagine he didn't squander his rookie check after having already gotten paid.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

As a question for Woody Marksman, training camp gets started tomorrow.

[Co-host/Analyst]

There you go.

[B. Scott (Sports Radio Host)]

Nice. All right, Payne and Pendergast B. Scott in today for Seth Payne. All right, add one more. One more deflection to Mike Vrabel's bag of tricks, and the results are in. Who's the bigger jerk? Brandon Scott or Shaun T. Pendergast? Lemonade. Fresh squeezed lemonade.

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