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I'm Ana Garcia, host of True Crime News, the podcast. Every week, we bring you in depth coverage on cases making headlines as well as those that go under the radar. Tune in for murders that defy explanation, mystery seeking exploration, and shocking secrets that will leave you breathless. Each week, we honor the victims by going beyond the salacious in our search for justice. Crime never stops. And neither do we. Listen to True Crime News, available now on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Sports Radio 610 presents Pain and Pendergast. I Pain in Pendergast. We haven't done this recently, but five reasons I hate you. It's a football season staple. It's something that we heard in focus groups that our listeners really enjoy. It turns out that our listenership, at least a big chunk of it, can be just as petty as I can. Yeah. Or Seth. Or the pettiness world that I'm pulling you into. Boy, I loved how much pettiness you had for Garrett Cole in that previous.
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Yeah, Garrett Cole. I had a little bit for. From. Yeah, yeah. No, I didn't pull any punches, man. Look, I try to just be as genuine as I can, man. If I like you, I like it, but if I don't, I really don't.
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Yeah.
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And I don't like those guys. Yeah.
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Good.
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Just don't.
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Okay, well, let's get ready here. This one. This one may be a little harder for you because I know that there are some roots up there in that part of the country.
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I'll make it work.
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I know you will. Yeah.
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They also are little tough. They like to. They like to fight up there. Sometimes they do. So you got to. Got to get my game face on.
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And this just in. They're good at baseball again.
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Yeah.
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That's not re. That's not a reason. I mean. Okay, reason 5A. The White Sox are good at baseball again. All right. That's reason five.
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What are they doing?
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Yeah. Reason number five, though. Five reasons I hate you, White Sox. This is a Chicago thing as much as it is a White Sox thing. Some of these are going to be general Chicago stuff.
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Yeah.
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The people up there. And I can. I can attest to this because I lived in Naperville for three years. I go back to Chicago, at least I used to a fair amount. When my kids all lived there, they went. My kids all went to high school up in Chicago in middle school, so I would visit them frequently when I was down here doing radio in Houston. The people up there act like the cold weather builds Character, man.
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They gotta psych themselves out somehow.
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I think they act. They say it builds character. No, it doesn't. It builds frostbite. It builds pneumonia.
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It builds frustration because why is it so damn cold?
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It builds anger.
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Yeah. Anger is the word.
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Yeah.
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Angry.
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Yeah. It doesn't build character at all.
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It builds polar vortex, you know?
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Yes. Like, I will take your word for it.
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Like, what is that about?
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Right?
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Yeah, no, they did. They literally had a polar vortex during COVID Yep. Yeah. Because the. That guy from Empire ended up faking that attack in Chicago.
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Oh, yeah.
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He said he was attacked by Magazealts and it turned out it was like two Nigerian dudes that he hired or something like that. And. But it was like in the middle of a polar vortex.
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Polar vortex.
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Like that. And just for the record, that did not build character.
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No, no, no.
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That was just.
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No, no. So that's reason number five.
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Yes.
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Stop it. With there being anything positive about cold weather and especially Chicago cold weather with that wind whipping off the lake. Get the hell out of here.
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I'd even go further and say, even if it did build character, well, in that case, character is overrated.
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Characters over.
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To hell with you and your character.
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Character gets cursed.
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Yeah, man.
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Yeah.
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Get out of here with your character.
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All right, number four. They've got this annoying little brother complex going on with the Chicago Cubs. Yeah. Where it's one of those little brother things where they. They claim to be equals and rivals with them, but they do that thing where when you're the little brother, you've got to spend an extra 20 minutes explaining the whole thing. Yeah. The Cubs don't need to explain anything. The Cubs are the alpha in that rival.
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The Cubs are exactly the alpha. And they're almost like there's so much the alpha to where they don't even really much consider the other side.
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Right.
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You ever see the one sided rivalry where one side hates the other one way more than that side even cares about the other or about their. Even their existence, much less hate them?
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It's called Notre Dame and Boston College. Yeah, that's what it is.
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Yeah, there's. There's a little bit of that. Sorry, Tyler. There's a little bit of that with Texas and Texas A and M, you know, so. Yeah, so, yeah, there's. There's that.
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Yeah, they. And they. They claim to be like the real baseball fans in Chicago. Like Chicago, all the Cubs fans are all just a bunch of yuppies that aren't even from here.
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Right.
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They live in nice brownstones near Wrigley
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front runners were the real.
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Yeah.
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Fans. All right, so that's. That's number four. Number three. Go back and Google Chicago White Sox uniforms, 1979. These are the worst uniforms in the history of baseball. Now, this is back when the Cubs. The Cubs. The White Sox were owned by. I believe by Bill Veck was his name. And he was one of these owners that was kind of half carny, half owner, where he had a little person play for the team at one time. Are you looking at the uniforms? He's like these clam digger uniforms.
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Looking at the uniforms that I've listened to you say that they had a little person play on the team.
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Yeah. I don't think the little person played in those uniforms.
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Yeah. Just for whatever reason, watching the. Looking at the uniforms and hearing you say that at the same time just tickled me.
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Uniforms had big collars on them, like collars that you would see on a 1970s polyester disco shirt. Those. You're only looking at the jersey, B. Scott. They played seasons in shorts.
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Oh, my God.
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In shorts. I can't think of Chet Lemon back in the day without thinking of him playing in clam digger unis with shorts. Horrible.
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This is. This is. I would say this goes against their sort of tough guy mantra Persona that they've got. Not wearing uniforms like that.
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They're a propeller hat away from being the class nerd in those things.
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Man. I kind of want to give the guy a wedgie. Just. Just cuz.
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Yeah. Just cuz.
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Yeah, man.
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Yep. All right, so that's number three. Number two. This is an organization that has not only had him as their manager twice, but has treated him like an icon. The most annoying manager of all time, Tony La Russo.
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Yeah.
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Is there a more annoying boomer, old guy, curmudgeonly, probably now octogenarian. You know, he. He was their manager not that all that long ago. And he was one of these guys, too. That was just gut feel. Old school. Yeah. Tony La Russa is an annoying human being.
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Yeah. Unwritten rules of the game. Probably like all of those sort of things. Yeah. And. And holier than thou, seemingly, but also has, like, skeletons, which I'm not even judging that part. It's the holier than thou with the skeletons part of it. Yeah, man. Tony LaRussa. And. And look, White Sox fans know this, but we're talking to the people of Houston. Even when this guy wasn't managing, he's always kind of had Jerry Reinsdorf's ear, so he was like. He kind of had, like, that Jeff Bagwell, Reggie Jackson sort of vibe of like an advisor to the. To the owner, even when he wasn't managing.
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Yes, yes. So Tony La Russa and the way the White Sox lionize him.
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Yeah.
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Number two.
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Yeah.
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Number one's an easy one. And it's Houston. And this is the most Houston specific thing we can.
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It has to do with The White Sox 2005, the World Series, and not just because the Astros lost the World Series to the White Sox. It was probably the closest sweep in the history of team sports sweeps.
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Yeah.
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Every game was close.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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These two teams were very even teams. And the timing of it, too, because you knew it was the end of the line for the Killer Bees. Yes. Who to that point in the history of the franchise were 1 and 2 in terms of how they were viewed. And I think it was a pretty big drop off after that.
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Yeah.
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You know, like, no disrespect to Nolan Ryan and Mike Scott and Cesar Sedano and many, many others.
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No, these were the clear guys.
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These were the clear. They were attached at the hip. They came in at about the same time. You. You knew.
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You.
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You had a pretty good feeling, at least that both were going to Cooperstown someday. And this was the last chance for two guys that, A, had been to the playoffs a bunch of times and B, had not had success in the playoffs ever.
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Yeah. And the part that really sucks for me, like, thinking back on it. So I was a. I think I was a junior in high school when this was. And I. I just reflect back on it to the point that you're making about how close the games were. It goes down as one of the more forgettable World Series for a lot of people, though, because it was a sweep. And I think a lot of people who is. The further we get from it, a lot of people forget how close it was that it was such a close sweep. I feel like if the Astros had gotten a game or two, that that World Series itself would be reflected on a lot more fine flips.
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A little bit, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If there were a Marwin Gonzalez home run.
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Right.
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To kind of flip the tide. I still feel that the Marwin Gonzalez home run in Game 2 of the 2017 World Series has a case as the most important hit in the history of the franchise.
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Oh, I like that.
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I like that he doesn't hit that home run to tie that. For those who don't recall, they were down by one run in the ninth inning, and it was. Kelly Jansen was on the mound. And at that time, and I know Kelly Jansen's still doing his thing. He was a hammer back.
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He was the guy. He was the closer. He was the preeminent closer in baseball.
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And Marwan Gonzalez on the road, hits a home run to tie that game, and they go on to win an extra innings. I think they lose that game, they might have gotten swept in that series. Yeah.
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Since we're talking about Marwin and we're talking about 2017, I do think it's worth mentioning again on the road.
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Oh, yeah.
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Because I like that you said that. Yeah, it was on the road.
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Marwin was really good at home.
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He was really good at home that year. But. But make this happen on the road. And look, I.
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Hey, Marwin Gonzalez cursed.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Left for free agency.
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Yeah.
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Odd cast. You have to go back and listen to the previous segment, I think.
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Sorry, I interrupted you. No, no, no. It's a good point, though. Marvin Gonzalez also cursed. But I'm glad you mentioned game two, though, because so much of the reflection, I think with that series goes to game. The Epic Game 5.
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That was.
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Yes. I think people. I'll just speak for myself, actually, almost forget everything that happened before Game 5. So that's a good point of Marwin kind of having the marquee moment in franchise history.
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They are talking on CBS Mornings right now about John Harbaugh speech. Not. Not cbs. Like, not a sports show. Not CBS Sports hq. The like very equivalent of Good Morning America. It's got Nate Burleson on there.
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Yes, Good Morning or CBS Mornings or whatever.
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Their tease right now was John Harbaugh' introductory speech. A big flop. Question mark. You know what John Harbaugh is learning? Is he. The very thing that he was. That he was trying to stress to his team. This is the New York Giants. You damn right the New York Giants. He's finding that out. If he gives that. If he gives that speech like Jonathan Gannon did to the Arizona Cardinals.
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No one knows.
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No one knows.
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Yeah. Not outside the sports world.
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Not outside the sports world. It's not on CBS Mornings.
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Absolutely not.
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He's the coach of the New York Giants. Yes. Now you're going to get scrutinized for being a boring MFER man. Yeah. Oh, my God. All right. That was fun. Five reasons I hate you, White Sox. If you missed it, you can, you can rewind on the Free Odyssey app. Hey, pretty soon you'll be listening to it on Crystal Clear FM radio, 95. 7 the Fan I heard something about August 13th B. Scott Circle it.
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Yeah, yeah. I've heard rumors.
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Yep, yep, they're true. Turns out they're true.
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Yeah.
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We're going over to FM, baby. 95. 7 the fan you drew is true. All right. Coming up next, the running back room. We talked a little bit about the running backs earlier today. We talked about them yesterday, too. In the question, the training camp question of the day, what will the split look like? The reporter who actually put that out there earlier this week, Jane Slater. That said, the carries are going to be split between Woody Marks, David Montgomery, got a lot of people worked up. She explained herself and we will hear what she had to say about that. Coming up next. If your current wealth manager isn't, why does it feel like nobody really gives us the inside scoop? Join us on the Powers that Be, the podcast where insiders from Puck break down who has influence, how they use it and what it actually means for you. New episodes every weekday. Listen to the Powers that Be wherever you get your podcasts.