HOUR 1 - Astros Lose 2 of 3 vs Rangers + Texans Work Out Terrion Arnold + Headlines

Summary

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Payne & Pendergast – HOUR 1 – July 13, 2026

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The episode covers Houston’s packed sports weekend, homing in on the Astros’ stumbles against the Rangers, the Texans’ surprising workout of embattled cornerback Terrion Arnold, and a rapid-fire tour through other headlines: NFL franchise sales, the MLB Draft, and World Cup semifinals. Hosts Seth Payne and Sean Pendergast blend sharp sports analysis with laid-back, relatable banter, giving Houston fans both stats and stories.

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Astros Drop 2 of 3 to Rangers: Frustration Builds

Timestamps: 03:23–09:09, 37:38–43:14

• Inconsistent Performance
  Seth describes the 2024 Astros as a team that gives fans “a little, and they’re gonna reel it back. Nobody has any faith in anybody except...Peter Lambert. He’s the one guy standing.” (03:37)
• Circle of Trust Shrinking
  • Peter Lambert is the only consistently reliable pitcher. Jokes abound about the “circle of trust” being down to “Peter Lambert and Peter Lambert. And Pedro Lambert and Pierre Lambert.” (04:21)
• Reliever Woes
  • “No room for error with Brian King or Josh Hader or anybody else like that. Abrayu, we're not even going to talk about him.” (05:03)
  • Relievers faltered; outfield miscues and injuries (Bryce Matthews goes down, Trammell struggles, Cam Smith thrown into center for the first time).
• Christian Javier’s Struggles
  • “Christian Javier feels like one of those quarterbacks that’s throwing his receivers into danger...giving up these 400 foot bombs.” (05:59)
• Cam Smith’s Center Field Debut
  • Thrown into the role due to injuries, made a pivotal play: “Bottom of the seventh, top of the eighth yesterday was Cam Smith time. He cut that ball off and kept the lead run from scoring and then hits a bomb in the top of the eighth.” (06:30–07:03)
  • Seth: “He had a bad first step, but he ends up making it because, like, it’s a great-looking play. He still does—he routinely takes a bad first step but still gets to the ball.” (07:07)
• Yordan Alvarez’s Globe Life Domination
  • Sean: “Yordan Alvarez has the second-most home runs in that ballpark this season of any player...including the Rangers!” (08:20)
  • Seth: “Jock Peterson has 10 in 152 plate appearances; Jordan’s got 7 in, like, 28 plate appearances going into yesterday.” (08:38)
  • Commentary on how certain ballparks provide unique advantages for hitters; banter about park design, lighting, and would-be billionaire owner shenanigans.
• All-Star Break Record, Playoff Hopes
  • Astros are now 47–51, “a very manageable situation” in the standings (38:05).
  • Relievers' faltering and an up-and-down bullpen cited as top concern.
  • Seth’s confidence meter: “I’d say 50–50. There’s no confidence in anything right now. They need a starting pitcher.” (39:47, 39:48)

Memorable Quotes:

• “They took my wife and family. They took everybody. All my friends are dead. But I stand. And you’re like, oh, great, great, we’ll just go seek vengeance with Peter Lambert.” – Seth (03:37)
• “Think about what you’re saying right there...you’re encouraged by Peter Lambert, the guy they DFA’d before the season started.” – Sean (41:22)

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Texans Work Out Terrion Arnold: Character Risk or Smart Gamble?

Timestamps: 22:49–34:55

• The Story:
  Texans reportedly brought in former Lions first-round DB Terrion Arnold for a workout and physical, despite his pending felony charges (four counts each of armed robbery and kidnapping).
• Legal & Off-Field Context
  • Seth’s 39-second recap: Arnold and friends, after being robbed at an AirBnb party, allegedly lured two men (who turned out to be innocent) to an apartment, where Arnold allegedly masterminded an armed shakedown. All co-defendants claim Arnold was the ringleader, though his involvement was mainly arranging the meeting via text. (23:20–24:19)
  • Sean: "At the very least, Terry and Arnold was involved in the brain work behind it and did his best to distance himself from the actual crime." (24:23)
• Texans' Shift in Team Culture
  • Five years ago, Texans likely wouldn’t even consider players in Arnold’s situation, but now are more open to character risks—albeit with caution.
  • Recent history (Damon Arnette, Deonte Johnson, C.J. Gardner-Johnson) cited as precedent for "kicking the tires" on risky players, while remaining quick to cut ties if problems persist.
• Motivations for a Workout
  • The Texans have a good relationship with Arnold’s agent Nicole Lynn, an Alabama connection with strong character references, and they recognize the value of first-round-caliber corners.
  • "They're much more willing to bring on either perceived character risks or guys with a record...and very willing to cut ties quickly if it becomes an issue." – Seth (28:59)
• Legal Nuances and Risks
  • Lions' immediate release notable; Texans willing to investigate, but “signing him would be the biggest example of a high profile guy who’s got a really dicey off-field situation they’d ever bring in.” – Seth (31:53)
  • “Like the body is still warm situation when it comes to the crime. This is like eight counts of really bad stuff.” – Sean (32:23)

NFL Franchise Sales: Seahawks Go for $9.6 Billion

Timestamps: 09:41–15:11, 43:36–45:12

• Seahawks sold to the Khosla family (Vinod and Neeru Khosla) for a record $9.6 billion; all proceeds to charity per Paul Allen’s will.
• Hosts marvel at how even family-run teams (like McNairs) might one day have a “number”; huge price jumps from Commanders to Seahawks sales spark philosophical musings.
• Lighthearted speculation on the responsibilities and temptations of owning an NFL team (billionaire shenanigans included):
  • “If I were a billionaire, I would murder so many people. There’d be so many accidental deaths in air quotes of people who wronged me or were obstacles.” – Seth (10:47)

MLB Draft: Astros Reach on Logan Hughes

Timestamps: 41:52–43:14

• Astros pick OF Logan Hughes (Texas Tech) at 17th overall.
• Described as a “potential middle of the order bat,” but widely seen as a draft reach (“ranked in the mid-40s on big boards”).
• Sean invokes former GM James Gladstone for his love of surprise picks: “Is Dana Brown trying to Gladstone this thing?” (42:31)
• Team pivots to drafting more college players; speculation Astros may seek more player-for-player deals as the trade deadline approaches.

World Cup & Miscellaneous

Timestamps: 43:28–45:12

• World Cup semifinals: France vs. Spain (Bastille Day), England vs. Argentina.
• Light banter about NFL players' hypothetical soccer stardom: “Pay no attention to the fact that the best soccer players in the world are these scrawny little 155-pound guys. Messi is the best player in the world.” – Sean (44:17)
• JJ Watt’s viral tweet and soccer ignorance discussed for comic relief.

Hosts’ Personal Banter & Houston Talk

Timestamps: 16:08–19:48

• Sean returns from vacation in Montana, shares his love for the state’s quiet, scenic beauty—a running joke about not wanting to leave, and oddities like Brock Osweiler not being on his own high school’s Wall of Fame.
• Casual conversation about travel, living in various climates, staying with friends, and (of course) making time for local sports shrines.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Peter Lambert:
  • “You left town, you came back, and it turned out, oh, gosh, the Huns attacked our village while we were gone. And Peter Lambert is just standing there. He’s all haggard...but I stand!” – Seth (03:37)
• On billionaire NFL owners:
  • “If I were a billionaire, I would murder so many people. There’d be so many accidental deaths in air quotes of people who wronged me or were obstacles.” – Seth (10:47)
• On the Texans’ calculated risk-taking:
  • “They’re much more willing to bring on either perceived character risks or guys with a record...and very willing to cut ties quickly if it becomes an issue.” – Seth (28:59)
• On World Cup stardom:
  • “The best soccer players in the world are these scrawny little 155-pound guys. Messi is the best player in the world.” – Sean (44:17)

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Segment Timestamps

• Astros Recap & Analysis: 03:23–09:09; 37:38–43:14
• Texans/Terrion Arnold Segment: 22:49–34:55
• Seahawks Sale/NFL Ownership Talk: 09:41–15:11; 43:36–45:12
• MLB Draft/Logan Hughes Discussion: 41:52–43:14
• World Cup/Soccer Banter: 43:28–45:12
• Personal Banter/Montana Story: 16:08–19:48

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Summary:
An episode packed with honest, sometimes brutal Houston sports analysis and classic Payne & Pendergast humor. The guys dissect the Astros’ frustrating inconsistencies, Texans’ evolving player risk tolerance, a record NFL sale, and much more—all delivered with insider knowledge and a wink at the audience. Whether you’re a diehard Houston fan or just sports-curious, you’ll leave knowing what matters this Monday morning.

Transcript

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Sports Radio 610 presents Seth Payne and Sean Pendergast.

[Seth Payne]

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[Sean Pendergast]

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[Seth Payne]

Let's do it.

[Sean Pendergast]

Hey, what's happening, everybody? Happy Monday to all of you. Nice to be with you. Appreciate you getting up with us. We are with you till 10am this morning. I am Sean Pendergast. He is Seth Payne. Hello, my friend. It's so good to see you.

[Seth Payne]

It's so good to see you. You know, Luke Morrow and I were talking about it on Friday and we weren't. You were even coming home, so it wasn't coming home.

[Sean Pendergast]

You're not the only one, apparently.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were all set to do a show on Monday together. So this was a. It was a welcome surprise when you texted me on Friday and said, hey, oh, yeah, by the way, I am. I am going to be in studio on Monday here.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

We're only. When does. When does camp start? Like, 10 days from now.

[Sean Pendergast]

The first day of practice is July 29th, which is two weeks from Wednesday.

[Seth Payne]

Okay.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

So when we got. We got two weeks and two days until. Until training camp, till we're sweating. But whoever's in the hall of Fame game is going to be starting a few days before that.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, they start next week. Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

NFL training camp does start very, very soon.

[Sean Pendergast]

The rookies show up on July. I want to say, like, 21st or 22nd or something like that, but that's where they just.

[Seth Payne]

They're not doing anything exciting. They just, you know, they get all their indoctrinations and onboarding education about, you know, not. Not, you know, not having relations with the locals, lest they. All that stuff. Yeah.

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[Sean Pendergast]

How you been, man? How did last week go? How was it?

[Seth Payne]

It was good.

[Sean Pendergast]

What did I miss?

[Seth Payne]

I don't. Oh, God. Hey, Ben. Did he miss anything?

[Sean Pendergast]

Ben's not.

[Seth Payne]

We explained to the listeners why Ben didn't wanna. Ben doesn't like to talk.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, we got that. We got a taste of that.

[Seth Payne]

No, this is what you missed with the Astros, Okay? And I know you. I know you watch the games while you're gone, but maybe you don't have the. Your finger on the pulse of what the Astros are doing right now.

[Sean Pendergast]

The states of Idaho and Montana did not give me my Astros pulse.

[Seth Payne]

This is what they're doing a whole lot. A whole lot of the exact same thing, Sean. Okay? They're gonna give you a little, and they're gonna reel it back. They're gonna give you a little, and they're gonna reel it back, okay? Nobody has any faith in anybody except for Peter Lambert. Peter Lambert is the one guy standing. You left town, you came back, and it turned out, oh, gosh, the Huns attacked our village while we were gone. And Peter Lambert is just standing there. He's all haggard. It's like, they took my wife and family. They took everybody. All my friends are dead. But I stand. And you're like, oh, great, great. We'll just go seek vengeance with Peter Lambert.

[Sean Pendergast]

Peter Lambert, let's go. Oh, man. So that's what the circle of trust looks like, huh? I got back, and it's Peter Lambert and Peter Lambert.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

And Pedro Lambert and Pierre Lambert. That's it. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Maybe a little bit of Lamont Wade.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Don still around?

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Yordon's still trustable? Yeah. 50. 50 or what? 47 and 51. 30. God, even the record since the pain and Pendergast reset has. Has dipped a little bit here. 30, 30 and 23 since the PNP reset on May 15. Is. It is. Is a scant 92 win pace. We were up in that 97, 98 win pace just for that chunk of schedule. For everybody asking, we know 47 and 51 is not a 92 win pace, but the PNP reset chunk of the schedule. 92 win.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. So the, the biggest thing, man, yesterday it was kind of. It's kind of like all of the issues of the Astros writ large because, man, you got a home run out of Altuve. That was awesome. They had a rally in the seventh. But if. If your relievers, you can really look at the last couple days, and if your relievers aren't just nails, it's going to be really, really dicey. So there's no room for error with Brian King or Josh Hader or anybody else like that. A Bray, we're not even going to talk about him. He Bray, you did exactly what you expect out of a Brave.

[Sean Pendergast]

Gave up a run. Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

But then in the outfield as well, I mean, you get like, oh, Bryce. Well, Bryce Matthews is in center field. We don't feel comfortable with that to begin with. He injures himself in the first inning trying to feel the fly ball. Then, then Tramel. Then Tramel almost murders himself twice in that ballpark. Christian Javier is just like serving up murder balls to these guys in the outfit.

[Sean Pendergast]

Dude, I thought the same thing yesterday. I'm like, this feels like. Christian Javier feels like one of those quarterbacks that's throwing his receivers into danger. Like he's just giving up these. He's giving up these 400 foot bombs into the alley that guys have a shot at.

[Seth Payne]

I thought Devonte Adams was in the outfield there.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes.

[Seth Payne]

The time he said he was going to get murdered, but he had to get out. Yeah. Was it Jimmy Garoppolo?

[Sean Pendergast]

Jimmy Garoppolo, the Raiders. It was getting him killed. Yes.

[Seth Payne]

So you end up, for those of you who missed it, you end up with Cam Smith playing center for the first time in his life.

[Sean Pendergast]

Hey. And he had a huge play that Cam Smith, that, that. Bottom of the seventh, top of the eighth yesterday was Cam Smith time. Because that game was. It was. I believe it was tied at the time. And Cam Smith made.

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[Sean Pendergast]

There was a base hit to the left center field gap and he cut it off. If that thing gets past him, and that would have gotten past most center fielders. I mean, a lot of the Reason he got that is he's, you know, 66 or whatever he is. But he cut that ball off and kept the lead run from scoring and then hits a bomb in the top of the eighth inning.

[Seth Payne]

It was a little bit of one of those, though, too, where Cam Smith, he makes it look more. He had a bad. His. He had a bad first step, but he ends up making it because, like, it's a great looking play. Because he had to make it a great looking play.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Which is where he is. Like, he still does. That's what's so incredible about him.

[Sean Pendergast]

He had never played that position. No.

[Seth Payne]

You see that. And like, that's what's so encouraging and exciting about him in the outfield is that he's still routinely takes a bad first step but still gets to the ball and he's like in. His numbers are immaculate. So he's only going to get better over time with more experience and. Yeah, I totally give him a break on that one. It's the first time. First time he's ever played center field in his life.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

And that was like, Jordan's incredible in that ballpark. He continues to just ravage that big barn of a building.

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[Sean Pendergast]

We'll get to this and acknowledge me. How about the graphic they put up? There were two graphics they put up right before the game started, or maybe it was right as Jordan was coming up to the plate, which would be right about the time the game started. And the two graphics they put up. One was the spray chart of all the. Of all 19 home runs Jordan has hit at Globe Life Field, which is. Which was amazing to see for a road player. This the second graphic. You should be embarrassed.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

If you're a Texas Ranger. Jordan Alvarez has the second most home runs in that ballpark this season of any player. Including the Rangers. Including.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. The other three are Jock Peterson, Ezekiel Duran and Josh Young. They. They all have. So Jordan second.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes.

[Seth Payne]

Jock Peterson has 10.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay.

[Seth Payne]

And 152 plate appearances.

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[Sean Pendergast]

Jordan's got seven in like 28 plate appearances going into yesterday.

[Seth Payne]

I don't. Ned is. You know, what I was thinking about yesterday is they mentioned on the broadcast that Jordan said, you know, a lot of those guys just say they just see the ball better in there.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

And it's one of the things that's, you know, for. For a team like the Astros that has all these incredible hitters. People have always said that there's just something about that ballpark, whether it's the LED lighting or the batter's eye or whatever, where they just don't see it as well. And gosh, I wish they could see it better, because if you take. If you get the proper lighting and sight lines and whatever the hell else you need, man, you're done. You're down. Might have 200 home runs per year in minute matrix.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's. Yeah, yeah. If. If they could just. They got to talk to the engineers that put Globe life together, man. Just do something to improve that started.

[Seth Payne]

I started thinking about that yesterday as they were talking about that, because the. For those of you missed it, the 49ers. Excuse me, the Seahawks got bought by a family that's a minority owner of the 49ers, but he's a tech guy. His name escapes me.

[Sean Pendergast]

It is. I've got it in headlines.

[Seth Payne]

One of the founders of Sun Microsystems.

[Sean Pendergast]

His name is. His name is Vinod Khosla Vinod.

[Seth Payne]

And his wife Neeru is going to be. Is actually going to be the person in charge.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

And their son. It sounds like their son will probably one day take over, but he's super successful. And I was just starting to think, man, if I. If I were an NFL owner or a baseball owner, I think I would devote so many resources to just all these little extra edges you might get in the ballpark.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

You know, everything's that make it like, so whatever. Like the. Tailor it so that, man, it suits which. Lots of teams do you tailor it to suit a certain type of pitcher or type of hitter. And then you. But I would. But I would have it one step ahead to where when the pendulum swung and all of a sudden you didn't have that advantage, there was some other advantage you could exploit.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Or have it be very, very malleable to where if your roster takes a different turn, you're like, oh, we can.

[Seth Payne]

There's little different ways you can tweak it that baseball won't even find out about.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes. Yes. Until Mike Fierce rats you out, and then you're screwed.

[Seth Payne]

Oh, I would just murder those people. Don't get me wrong, man. If I were a billionaire, I would murder so many people. I mean, there would be so many. There'd be so many accidental deaths in air quotes of people who wronged me or were obstacles. Yeah. Don't ever let me catch. Get. Get $10 billion.

[Sean Pendergast]

$9.6 billion.

[Seth Payne]

That's how much the Seahawks were sold.

[Sean Pendergast]

That's how much the Seahawks were sold for. It really does. I see these numbers and it gets me thinking, like, even the most staunch NFL Owners that say we're never selling the team, which I think the McNairs fall into right now. The McNairs have never even hinted at wanting to even talk about selling the team before. Like, but there's got to be a number. Like what is the number that this approaches when you're still a family owned NFL team?

[Seth Payne]

Well, okay, so this is. I was thinking about this yesterday because the Seahawks have had a dream ownership scenario ever since Paul Allen bought it in 1997.

[Sean Pendergast]

I believe it was. 97.

[Seth Payne]

97. So you've got a guy who's very independently wealthy and he's not looking at the, he's not looking at the team as a way to, you know, as his personal income or anything. That's the worst. That's what the Bengals are. The family, the, the Brown family. That's where they get their income. So they're always going to be stingy because, man, you're, you know, taken out of my kids college fund just to sign somebody that doesn't have a criminal record.

[Sean Pendergast]

And they operate the Bengals. Do you know, sometimes these bit these family owned businesses, especially if they're somewhere where like tourism is a big thing.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

And they're a seasonal business. So they've really got to keep an eye on the bottom line. That's.

[Seth Payne]

You can't be spending money in March. We got no money coming in.

[Sean Pendergast]

The Bengals operate. I'm sensitive to that because Amy and I were just in a part of the country that's very seasonal when it comes to, you know, like up in Montana and the lakes and things like that. It's very seasonal up there. So you talk to some of the business owners like, no, this is where we got to make hay, man. Like this time of year, that's how the Bengals treat the regular season in the NFL. Like, boy, we better make our money right now.

[Seth Payne]

Make our money now. Except they act like they're. But, but most of the. It's interesting in areas like that where tourism is big. I bet people, I bet in general people are more responsible about setting money aside because like, usually they have to operate that way. I don't feel like the Brown family ever just got that memo. Like, like they're borrowing against their credit cards by June every year, all the time. So no, but anyway, for the Seahawks, so you've got Paul Allen and they're huge in the community. Paul Allen was a big time philanthropist. After he dies, his sister Jody is running the thing, but it's his trust that's doing it. But, but they have all the resources to throw into everything. They're huge in the community and everything. And likewise, the Texans have that scenario now. You know, and it's. And it was bumpy after Bob McNair died, but after everything stabilized, you've got a family that's independently wealthy and they genuinely care about the community. Like, those are two big assets. And Cal and Hannah have not been afraid to throw resources into it. I would be really surprised for any amount of money, because, look, even if, like, you get into the third and the fourth generation, who the hell knows?

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[Seth Payne]

But one of the reasons that those. One of the reasons that NFL franchises are worth so much is that, yeah, they spit out a whole bunch of revenue. So there's no. It's like. I don't think that there's any. Just like Paul Allen himself probably never would have sold it while he was alive. I don't think that. I would just be surprised. For now. It's all good.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. No, I'd be stunned. It's just one of those things that when you see. And not just the 9.6 billion, Seth. The previous team that sold was the Commanders for barely over 6 billion. Like, the number. And granted, it's the Seahawks, who just won the Super Bowl.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. Everything about that organization is operating exactly like you'd like.

[Sean Pendergast]

You're buying it. You are. You know, this Kozlow family is buying high on this asset. There's no doubt about that. But for the jump to go from barely over 6 to 9.6, that's the question that pops into my head. I'm like, boy, there's. There's a number out there. You know, as Ted DiBiase once said, everybody's got a price for the million dollar Man. So I. You know, just. And in bringing up the charity component of this, the. That whole 9.6 billion is going to charity. Paul Allen decreed that he's willing to all go into charity. It's. That's wild. That's wild. So, yeah, I was in.

[Seth Payne]

I look forward to watching on social media as people explain how, no, this $10 billion, it's going to. Charity is all evil and it's no good.

[Sean Pendergast]

Right.

[Seth Payne]

Et cetera, et cetera.

[Sean Pendergast]

Right. Right. I. When I was on vacation when. When Baligan got his red card suspension overturned. Ah, that's. That's. I think about that when I'm out for a week sometimes. I think about, like, okay, this story pops up. Like, what would the conversation have been like? You know, that would have been fun to talk about. And there's Some things that I think you and Luke talked about last week that I did put in the rundown this week just to take a swing at it with you, but that was the one last week. I'm like, oh, God.

[Seth Payne]

This is the kind of thing you cannot have a conversation about without. Yeah. People getting PO'd for no reason whatsoever.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, that was, that. That was the. The one story. So. Yeah. So Amy and I, we're back. We were in. Mostly in Idaho. We flew into Oregon. We made a little stop in Washington, but we were mostly in Idaho and Montana. I almost didn't come home from Montana.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, Montana, everybody. Now I don't know. I don't think I've ever been to Montana.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's. It's the. Well, it was our last state. We've got all 48.

[Seth Payne]

Oh, that was the last one.

[Sean Pendergast]

The last. The last one for the continental US we still have Hawaii and Alaska to do. But Montana was.

[Seth Payne]

Have you ever been to Hawaii? You're just not together.

[Sean Pendergast]

I just not together. I've been twice. She's never been. We none. Neither of us have been to Alaska. So that's the, The. The theme of this whole thing has been like, we'll close it all out together kind of thing.

[Seth Payne]

Take one of those arctic cruises.

[Sean Pendergast]

That's what we're going to do.

[Seth Payne]

Oh, you are?

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Oh, yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

So we're going to. I mean, I don't know when. Probably a year from now, but that's. Yeah, that. So we have those two states left. I almost. Montana is beautiful. It's quiet, it's laid back.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, it's.

[Sean Pendergast]

The weather is amazing. It is a. It is a hidden gem, man. It is.

[Seth Payne]

That's why everybody I know that's ever been to Montana in the summer says that. They say it's just incredible.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's.

[Seth Payne]

I have a. I do have. I have a friend that moved out there. He and his wife live in is Helena. It's one of the towns that's probably being overrun with outsiders. People locally probably despise him, but he loves it because he's just. He is one of those influx of people that just that moved in.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's. It's really. It's really, really nice.

[Seth Payne]

They're inviting us to come out and stay with them, but I'm not a big stay with guy. Yeah, I like that. I'll go, I'll go stay. Can we stay in a tent?

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah. I'm a stay near guy. Yeah, yeah. Stay near you.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's not with you. So.

[Seth Payne]

So yeah, it's So I bet it's just, like, hot in the day, but, yeah, perfect. Like, beautiful. You got to wear a sweater.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And it's hot. It's hot, but, like, it's 80. It's 80. But it's like, 83. But it's. But it's. It feels hot because this. It's. There's no clouds. It's just the sun beating down on you. I will say this. Like, Amy and I went out to breakfast yesterday morning at, like, 10.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

And I'm like, I feel bad complaining about the heat in Montana after, you know, just stepping out of your car here. It's. It's. It's. It's really nice.

[Seth Payne]

The thing people might joke about the dry heat and all that stuff, but it is. Well, like, when it's a dry heat like that, the biggest difference is that if you have shade and a little bit of a breeze, it's the most delightful weather.

[Sean Pendergast]

That's what I said. We're walking around town. I'm like, man, the difference in the shade, I could live right here in this spot.

[Seth Payne]

Right?

[Sean Pendergast]

Beautiful. Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, we had fun, man. We went a little town called Big Fork, Montana, just a nice, small, little lake town there, and did some local things and drove by Brock Osweiler's old high school.

[Seth Payne]

I saw that.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

You took a picture in front of the gates.

[Sean Pendergast]

Took a picture in front of. In front of Flathead High School and the gates to the stadium where the stories, the anecdotes that interceptions were began back in the day.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. There's. There. There's a statue of Brock.

[Sean Pendergast]

There's. Can I.

[Seth Payne]

With plaque with all the story of all of his interceptions.

[Sean Pendergast]

Is this weird? Okay. Is this weird? Brock went to Flathead High School in Kalispell, Montana, and we couldn't get into the stadium area because the gates were locked. That's not the weird part. But we could see the back of the concession stand through the gate, and they have this kind of, like, wall of fame there. I forget what they call it. Like, wall of honor, Wall of Fame. And it's got pictures, like, headshots of probably 25 to 30 people going back to maybe the 60s. Is it weird that Brock's not up there in Kalispell, Montana, that he's not on their wall?

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[Seth Payne]

He might not have been. Maybe he wasn't a great high school player.

[Sean Pendergast]

He was the player of the year in Montana his senior year in high school.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, that's a Little bit weird.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's a little strange, right?

[Seth Payne]

Maybe they haven't been able to get him to come back to, like, a ceremony or something.

[Sean Pendergast]

He comes back into. I did more research on Brock Osweather than I care to. Seth, this is not me. Well, actually, you. I was like.

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[Seth Payne]

I said maybe he comes back.

[Sean Pendergast]

He comes back every summer to do a football camp there.

[Seth Payne]

Oh.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Just haven't honored him with. With a. With a spot on that wall.

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[Sean Pendergast]

No, it's not like it's. It's not like he's a high school player from Houston where there's. He was probably here. He would have been like the ninth best guy on his own team. It's Kalispell, Montana. He was a Gatorade player of the year in Montana that his senior year.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Just found it strange that he wasn't on the wall and now he's an up and coming broadcaster. You know, it's just.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, that's weird.

[Sean Pendergast]

I found it strange, that's all.

[Seth Payne]

You should write a letter.

[Sean Pendergast]

The Flathead isd. Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

There's got to be a reason for that. Can we get somebody from Flathead on the phone?

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes. Let's find Ben. Get on that.

[Seth Payne]

Ben, get your. Get your Rolodex out.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's only 5:18 there, so, you know, just time it out. Oh, by the way, the baseball talk in this segment and On Sports Radio 610 is presented by Xfinity. Score. The most reliable Wi Fi 1 price, five years guaranteed. Xfinity. Imagine that. All right, coming up next. Okay, this was this. I think this story. Did the Terry and Arnold stuff come out before or after you guys were off the air?

[Seth Payne]

After. Immediately after.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay, good. I get to sink my teeth into this with you. Fresh, the Terry and Texans workout Terry and Arnold. Surprising or not surprising at all based on the history of this regime. We will discuss that coming up next.

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[Sean Pendergast]

All right, so the Texans worked out Terry and Arnold, cornerback of, well, former Detroit lion cornerback who is in some legal trouble right now. He is out on bond, a million dollar bond from being arrested a couple of weeks ago from an incident that took place back in February in Largo, Florida in which he's accused of four counts of kidnapping and four counts of armed robbery.

[Seth Payne]

So the just real quick, I figured out a way to do like a 30 second synopsis.

[Sean Pendergast]

Oh good.

[Seth Payne]

Terry and Arnold in late January, early February, rented an Airbnb with a bunch of his friends and had a big old party. At some point. So a bunch of property was stolen from multiple people.

[Sean Pendergast]

250,000.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, Terry and Arnold and his buddies thought they had identified the culprits, which were two young men. And basically, according to police, Terry Nardol and his six friends lured these two guys to a young woman's apartment and then claimed that Terry and Arnold stayed in the car while the six other people like threatened the crap out of them, put a pistol in their mouths, took all their stuff and everything. Police say those two guys weren't even the guys who stole this stuff. And meanwhile, all of the other six people that have been arrested apparently have said, yeah, Terry and Arnold was in on it, even though he wasn't involved with the text messages or anything. Yeah, so that's where we stand with that right now.

[Sean Pendergast]

39 seconds. Oh, good job. Yeah, 39 seconds. Good job.

[Seth Payne]

It's a confusing story, you know, like I'm trying to figure I'll get it down to 30 seconds next time.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's very, this is, this to me is very clear. And we'll get to the text and stuff component in this. In, in 30 seconds. 39 seconds. At least. It's, it's, it's, it's very clear. At the very least, Terry and Arnold was involved in the brain work behind it and did his best to distance himself from the actual crime that took place in that apartment. Yeah, that, that seems to be the case.

[Seth Payne]

It looks like they're saying he's the mastermind behind all of it. Like all the people as they're coordinating to, to intimidate these two young guys who apparently had nothing to do with the stolen car.

[Sean Pendergast]

They just got beat for no reason.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, the biggest, you know, the biggest thing in all of that, Sean, was that it's kind of like along with the lines with Stefan Diggs, whether he did it or whether he didn't, man, it sounds like he was being sloppy as hell in the way he was running his life. I mean, like two guys, the one guy's a 19 year old driver that they had hired, the other one's a barber and 18. Yeah, it was 18. Yeah. His girlfriend at the time was 18. Yeah, the, like, there's just all this stuff. We're like, man, I don't. And one of the neighbors, one of the neighbors that was across the street from the Airbnb basically said, man, Terry and Arnold seemed like a really nice, polite young dude, but his buddies were jackass, low rent. Yeah, like you gotta, like you gotta. He's just, at the very least, he's definitely not operating the way you'd like your young first round pick to operate off the field.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, you saw the same story I did. There's an ad, There's a story in the Athletic chronicling that whole weekend put, you know, just putting the pieces together from police reports and different accounts of things and whatnot.

[Seth Payne]

But yeah, it's four counts of, it's four counts of kid felony kidnapping and four counts of armed robbery.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, it's a wild story. And the story in the Athletic is gripping. Like the Chronicles, the whole thing is, is a really, really compelling read. Maybe we'll get into that later. Let's get to the Texans part of this. So there was a. There was a. There was a courtroom session late last week in which the, The. The. The prosecution is still trying to get Taryn Arnold to have to wear a GPS bracelet while he's out on bond. And so there was a. There was a courtroom session, a hearing late last week in which Terry and Arnold's camp is trying to say, no, he doesn't need one. He can't have one because he needs to travel for work. And so one of the people that testified in this hearing was Nicole Lynn, who is Terry and Arnold's agent, who also happens to be Will Anderson's agent, among other pajamas.

[Seth Payne]

Five different Texans.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she's, She's. She's a very prominent agent. She's Terry and Arnold's agent. She testified that there are at least four teams, including the Houston Texans, that have shown interest in Terry and Arnold. The other three are the jets, the Colts, and the Seahawks. Now, the Texans, it would appear, at least as of Friday, were the only one that brought him in. They, according to Nicole Lim, brought Terry and Arnold in for a physical and a workout on Thursday, last week. So the Texans are, at least as of now, and we've heard nothing from the Texans on this, nor do I expect us to until something happens. But they're at the very least kicking tires on Terry and Arnold, which I think, Seth, if this were five or six years ago, at least 10 years ago, for sure, there's. I think there's a zero percent chance the Texans are even. Even looking at Terry and Arnold just based on the accusations alone and the things that we know to be true about these incidents that took place. That he was even finding himself near something like this would have been enough for the old Texans to say, no. I'm not saying the Texans are the Raiders or the Bengals now, but this has been the biggest adjustment for me, is wrapping my brain around the likelihood that if a player is a. A good enough football player, be somebody they may have had high on their board. And I'm guessing the Texans had Terry and Arnold high on their board because all the reports coming out of Alabama was, this is a great kid.

[Seth Payne]

You know, he worked. Yeah, we thought it was. It sounded a lot like the stuff people were saying about Will Anderson.

[Sean Pendergast]

We thought they were trading, trying to trade up for him on draft night.

[Seth Payne]

That night, Nick Saban still sings his praises about what a good, solid citizen he was. Willie was there.

[Sean Pendergast]

I don't know where you're at with it. This has been the biggest adjustment for me in terms of personnel with the Texans, Deontay Johnson, Damon Arnett, you know, guys like that, they're. They're willing to take a look at guys like this.

[Seth Payne]

Well, they had Damon Arnett in the organization last year for a while with. He was active for a couple games. Right. And. But. But on the practice squad for a good chunk of time. And Damon Arnett had been. I don't want to mess it up when I get the illegal stuff. At the very least, accused of some violent crime.

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, like a lot of gun flashing and things.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like so. So it was, it wasn't like, you know, he got caught smoking pot and state where is illegal or something. It was, it was rougher stuff. I think that what they've established is that they're much more willing to bring on either perceived character risks or guys with a record. And. But they're also very willing to cut ties quickly if it becomes an issue. And I think with Terry and Arnold, there's a lot of it that makes sense in terms of just wanting to have a look at him. A. It's. It is still a pending legal matter and we don't know that much about it now. The Lions chose to cut him, which might be notable.

[Sean Pendergast]

I think it is. I'm not saying don't sign the kid. I'm saying that is notable.

[Seth Payne]

Oh, it's notable. It's notable like it's whatever the Lions learned with their investigation or whatever. Now, alongside that he was. He's been kind of disappointing as a player.

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[Seth Payne]

As a first round pick. So you have to add that into the mix, too. But I think between Nicole Lynn being his agent and the Texans seem to have a good relationship with Nicole Lynn, the fact that he went to Alabama and they've got a lot of really good character reports out of guys from Alabama, presumably, and then thirdly and probably biggest of all, and they've established this is kind of like Bill o' Brien before him. There's just very few guys out there who have the physical profile of a starting NFL cornerback.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yep.

[Seth Payne]

And it's. It's. Tom Brady was on the Heights podcast, the Kelsey Brothers podcast, last week, and he had a really interesting bit in there about how, you know cornerbacks, you just, you don't see slow cornerbacks. Like, if you're not. If you're not fast, you're not good enough. And it's just, it's one of those things. It's one of those positions where, like, the premium of taking a guy in the first round makes so much sense because it's just hard to find the guys with the physical traits. So I think if you see a guy out there who you might be able to get at a perceived bargain at least who has those physical traits. We saw that with, look, Jeff Okuda and this wasn't a legal situation. C.J. henderson, former high first round picks who had been disappointed in the NFL. The Texans say, all right, let's bring him in. And these again, these guys weren't legal issues or anything. No, they were just disappointing players. But I think the Texans are going to bring guys in who have those elite physical traits as often as possible and see if it can work with

[Sean Pendergast]

him at a minimum. At a minimum. Give him a physical and work him out.

[Seth Payne]

Pick his brain at the very least. And then seeing what happens with the legal side, maybe he ends up being completely exonerated with more evidence or something that you know what you're getting or you know. Exactly. So just kicking the tires on Terry and Arnold, it doesn't bother me at all. Signing them. This might be. Would this be the biggest example of like a high profile guy who's got a really dicey off field situation?

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes.

[Seth Payne]

That the Texans would sign and bring into the organization.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes. And here's, and here's why, you know, Deontay Johnson wasn't a legal thing. He was just a guy. He was the wide receiver version of C.J. gardner. Johnson is now, you know, where he was on like four teams in a year because he just was hard to be around. C.J. gardner Johnson falls into that category. Damon Arnett from that standpoint is probably the closest thing. But Damon Arnett was like a UFL stint and like years removed from all his legal stuff. Like he, he just not played a lot of football well.

[Seth Payne]

And you signed him to the absolute minimum.

[Sean Pendergast]

Absolute minimum. Good point. Yeah. This is like, like the, the, like this is a, like the body is still warm situation when it comes to the crime. You know, like it's this, he just, he's, he literally had a hearing the day after you worked him out about an ankle bracelet, you know, like. So this is definitely. Yeah, by far, I would say. I mean this is like, this is like eight, like, like eight counts of really bad stuff.

[Seth Payne]

Eight counts of really bad stuff. As I, you know, and I started when I'm trying to see it from both sides and a couple of the legal types weighed in and said, hey, look, you know, I know it's, I know it almost becomes a cliche, but it is true, you're innocent until proven guilty. You're really supposed to. Where in the court of public opinion. It doesn't usually operate that way. I think that I'm looking at it, and the one thing I'm wondering about this whole situation and this whole case is that because it wasn't just Terry and Arnold who had stuff stolen from him, but his friends had stuff stolen from him, too. That I do it. Like, in my mind, I can see a scenario where maybe these guys just did genuinely act on their own. And Terry and Arnold may not have been the mastermind. Who knows how much he did or did not know about what they were doing.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

But like, once. Once they get arrested and they give their version of it, and if they are. You know, if giving up Terry and Arnold helps out their prospects at all or whatever, it'll be interesting to see. Exactly.

[Sean Pendergast]

That's the. That seems to be the basis of Terry and Arnold's legal case is, hey, these are a bunch of ne' er do wells who are diming out the rich guy in this whole thing.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Is what his legal team seems to be doing now. The one thing in here. And we got to know. We got to get to a break. The one thing in here. We'll circle back to this story for sure. The one thing in here that's a little damning for Terry and Arnold is the very beginning of the masterminding of luring the two. What they thought were the two guys that stole stuff from them to the woman's apartment, to Terry and Arnold's girlfriend's apartment. Was that. She said that Tarian texted me and said, get this guy to come here.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

She. And that feels like it'd be something pretty easy to prove that, right?

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

So, like, I don't think his fingerprints are off of this thing entirely, but we'll see how it plays out. I just think it's super interesting that the Texans are interested in him for sure.

[Seth Payne]

No, I think it's. It's. Yes. In my mind, most likely it's exactly or very close to what the police are saying it is. I mean, the fact that they chose the wrong guys to shake down, too. If I were Terry and Arnold, I'd use that as an example of how you can tell that I'm not actually a. You know, I'm kind of new to all this.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

I didn't. I couldn't even identify the right guys

[Sean Pendergast]

to shake down law enforcement. All right, let's get to headlines. Coming up next. Headlines. The Astros lose two out of three over the weekend. Where do they sit right now? Hey, we had a draft in the in MLB this weekend. What was the, what was the approach there? And we've got some NFL News World cup to get to as well. We'll do that in Headlines coming up next.

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[Sean Pendergast]

All right, let's get to headlines here. The, The Astros lose two out of three to the Rangers over the weekend. 47 and 51 headed into the All Star break. Seth probably would have signed up for that, I would guess back in mid May. Hey, they're going to be, they're going to be four games. I don't know if I would have signed up for four games under.500. I probably would have signed up though, for three games back in the division and one and a half back in the wild card. This is a very manageable situation right now.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Division, you're going to have plenty of games left against these teams that you're chasing or you're in the, you're in the swamp with right now. One and a half back in the wild card. Boy. And they let one go yesterday. I guess that's the biggest headline. Six to five yesterday they lose to the Rangers. So it looked like, looked like they came back from a 4 to 1 deficit. Came back to tie the game. Isak Paredes with a big game tying single in the seventh.

[Seth Payne]

I believe seventh was the beginning. Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Seventh was the beginning. Zach Desenzo had one of the greatest swinging bunts of all time.

[Seth Payne]

For those of you didn't see it.

[Sean Pendergast]

Literally on top of the line.

[Seth Payne]

On top of the line for two thirds of the way down the line.

[Sean Pendergast]

Incredible.

[Seth Payne]

It was really amazing. And then it's stay. And it stayed fair. It was almost about to go out and then it hit a little bit of a fleck of dust or something and veered back right onto the. Good job by the groundskeepers.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah. Thanks for grooming the, the, the, the dirt there so that the Astros could keep a rally going. But yeah, so the, the, but the ash. The Astros get a 54 lead in the eighth on a cam Smith, a Cam Smith solo home run. But then Brian King, Brian King gives up a home run with two outs in the bottom of the eighth. Bottom of the eighth to the nine hole hitter and that ties the game. And then they scrape together a run in the bottom of the ninth. The Rangers do against Josh Hader, only one real hard hit ball. Disenzo had an error that allowed a runner to advance. And it was so, so not a great day for the astros. They lose 6 to 5. Would have been nice to go into the All Star break a half game back in the playoff hunt. They're a game and a half back. So that's where we are right now, headed in the All Star break. How we feel, what's our confidence level that this can Be one of the six playoff teams in the American League right now.

[Seth Payne]

I'd say 50.

[Sean Pendergast]

50.

[Seth Payne]

I don't. There's no confidence in anything right now. I think, I mean, you know what really adjusted last week was I think by the time you had left, we were still talking about bringing in a left handed outfielder and we were figuring out exactly, you know, hey, just this guy or this guy needs to come along on the pitching staff. I feel like it pivoted pretty hard to man, they need a starting pitcher. Yeah. Because you can't trust any of these guys 100 rounds. Yeah. But like I figure he'll come around. He's. He's got no command at all right now. No, I mean like abandoning his. For his, his fastball ended up being what worked for him the other day. Yeah, but that's not exactly what his coaching pitch. You know, him abandoning his, his bread and butter pitch. Probably not the best thing. But I figure he'll, he'll figure that out at some point. I mean, I like, I'm, I'm excited about the prospects of Lambert being what he has been, but we still need to wait and see. I guess with Javier, Javier ends up. It ends up not looking as bad as I feared that it would, but it could have easily been even worse. I, you know, it could have like an extra foot of distance on any of those fly balls. Yesterday still gave him three runs. I know, I know, I know, I know. No, I know. But I like him. But at least he worked his way back in and was competitive instead of. I was worried that after the first couple innings it was just going to be an absolute disaster. But no, I don't. Yeah, I don't feel awesome about any of the starting pitchers right now, but I'm, I'm intrigued by Peter Lambert. That's about it. And, and obviously Hunter Brown.

[Sean Pendergast]

Think about what you're saying right there. I don't want to go too deep because we got to get to these headlines. I'm. You're encouraged by Peter Lambert, the guy they DFA before the season started. Like, yeah, they cut him. That's the guy that like, that's the guy we have the most confidence.

[Seth Payne]

That was one of the six guys they brought in and the one that Dana Brown had deemed most expendable.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep.

[Seth Payne]

They end up. Nobody picks him up and it ends up working out so far. What a disastrous, horrible, ridiculously bad offseason for Dana Brown.

[Sean Pendergast]

It wasn't good. Not in the.

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[Seth Payne]

He's in charge of the draft. We'll be good.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay. Speaking of which, first over or first pick for the Astros, 17th overall, Logan Hughes. I need you Red Raiders out there to tell me was this a good pick or not? Logan Hughes, outfielder hit a bunch of bombs, hit 375 potential middle of the order bat. That's what they're saying about him. This is what I like, Seth. Of what I read, who did. Who do you think I thought of first? Logan Hughes was ranked in the mid-40s in most of the big boards out there. The astros took him 17th overall. Who do you think I thought of?

[Seth Payne]

Marlon Klein?

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, no, that's a good answer.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

And the. James Gladstone was what I was going to say.

[Seth Payne]

Oh, James Gladstone did it with everybody. Yeah, he reached on everybody.

[Sean Pendergast]

Is Dana Brown trying to Gladstone this thing? What's he doing here?

[Seth Payne]

So.

[Sean Pendergast]

So there's that. So they took Logan Hughes. They drafted a bunch of college guys this time around.

[Seth Payne]

One thing, you know, the speculation right now is that when it comes to the trade market, because so many teams are theoretically in the hunt for the playoffs, that there might be a lot more player for player trades this year.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

And so when you're, when you're starting to figure out, you know, like, how do you, how do you position this team better for the playoffs without. Without sacrificing your farm system, you might not have to get up, give up prospects. Yep. Now, it's not like you've got a plethora of guys to deal on the major league roster right now.

[Sean Pendergast]

No, no, no.

[Seth Payne]

That you can easily do without all hands on.

[Sean Pendergast]

You kind of need anybody worth dealing. You kind of need yourself to get into the postseason.

[Seth Payne]

The Astros outfield is like how the Texans offensive line has been the last few years. You don't feel awesome about any of them, but you desperately need all of them. Because in any given game, you got to play five outfielders.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep. Yep.

[Seth Payne]

All right.

[Sean Pendergast]

A couple other headlines. World cup semifinals are set. Tomorrow it'll be France and Spain. France on Bastille Day. Seth, France and Spain tomorrow.

[Seth Payne]

What happened on Bastille Day?

[Sean Pendergast]

On Bastille Day, that would be the French Revolution of 1789.

[Seth Payne]

That worked out well.

[Sean Pendergast]

Spain wasn't involved in that at all. Spain and France have had their issues, but. But Spain was not involved in that at all. Wednesday in Atlanta, England and Argentina. The bigger story is that you and Clint are leading the company pool right now. The.

[Seth Payne]

The. Yeah, yeah. That's where, you know, the, the one big thing is that there's a lot of people that seem to be convinced that because NFL players are bigger and stronger than soccer players that they'd all be awesome soccer players.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. So I think that's.

[Sean Pendergast]

Or LeBron.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pay no attention to the fact that, like, the best soccer players in the world are these scrawny little 155.

[Sean Pendergast]

Messi is the best player in the world.

[Seth Payne]

I didn't realize. Yeah. Just imagine if Messi was 6 foot 7 and 280 pounds.

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[Sean Pendergast]

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[Seth Payne]

I think. I feel like Clint and I are proving that theory correct. Yeah. You just need a higher body mass. And he and I know exactly what we're doing.

[Sean Pendergast]

So funny. I saw that yesterday. Like Seth and Clinton, I'm like, of course they're leading the pool.

[Seth Payne]

The funniest thing. You know what, though? Jj, Somebody asked about the size difference between JJ Watt and Messi. And jj, JJ just tweeted out a photo of himself with Lionel Messi. Didn't say anything about it at all. And all of a sudden, there's these people arguing with jj, explaining, mansplaining to jj, who owns a part of a soccer club. They're like, well, it's a different sport and your size doesn't help you there. Yeah, JJ's not. JJ's not one of these idiots that thinks that being 290 pounds and shredded is going to make him a good soccer player.

[Sean Pendergast]

No, he's married to a soccer player. Like, he knows the game. He owns a team. Speaking of owning a team, the Seahawks have new owners. It is the Kozla family, $9.6 billion. And those are your headlines for today here on Pain and Pendergast. All right, coming up next, Seth, I am starting to think that maybe C.J. stroud is not going to make the NFL's top 100. Starting to think that may be the case.

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[Seth Payne]

I've got. I've got a counter argument for you.

[Sean Pendergast]

You do? Okay.

[Seth Payne]

I don't know if. I don't know if you know this part of it.

[Sean Pendergast]

I'm ready for it. I'm ready for the counter argument. We will get to that.

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