HOUR 3 - PettyCast + Warriors Big 4 Incoming? + What's Next for Freddy with Germany Knocked Out

Summary

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Payne & Pendergast – Hour 3 (June 30, 2026)

Episode Overview

In this episode, hosts Seth Payne and Sean Pendergast dive into their signature “PettyCast” segment, share unfiltered reactions to NBA and NFL storylines, and break down the latest drama involving the Houston Rockets, Golden State Warriors, and World Cup superfan Freddie after Germany's elimination. The show features spirited banter, memorable soundbites, and a healthy dose of Houston sports perspective. Key debates range from NBA analytics to the value of Caitlin Clark to the WNBA, with plenty of audience engagement and lighthearted jabs along the way.

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PettyCast: Sports Petty Wars

[01:32–13:15]

Rockets Under Fire from Bill Simmons & Zach Lowe

• Clip Played: Bill Simmons claims the Houston Rockets "want no part of Jalen Brown" and criticizes the organization’s past dysfunction. Zach Lowe joins in the shade, implying the Rockets have no right to be choosy given last season’s chaos.
  • Simmons: “How are they drawing the line at, ‘Oh, Jalen Brown would make us weird’? You guys had the weirdest team on the planet. You know what Jalen Brown would do is actually show up for games and not roll over in a playoff series.” (02:57)
• Hosts’ Response:
  • Sean notes Rockets fans are probably still bitter; Seth counters that Simmons is a notorious Houston hater and likely lacks true NBA inside info.
  • “Let’s not act like doing the appropriate thing of playing hard to get is the same as saying we want no part of Jalen Brown.” – Seth (04:02)
  • “Simmons never turns down a chance to take a shot at not just the Houston sports teams, but the Houston fans themselves.” – Seth (04:06)

Brandon Aiyuk Drama & NFL Petty

• Clip Played: Audio from Brandon Aiyuk’s Instagram Live about his strained relationship with the 49ers and his aspirations to join the Commanders with “the belt” on October 19.

  • Ayuk: “So I ain't finna hold it against... but we is not cool… I will never be stepping in that building except for on October 19th when I come through with that [expletive] belt.” (05:10)

• Discussion:

  • Seth and Sean dissect how Aiyuk’s campaign may actually sabotage a Commanders signing, citing tampering risk.
  • Debate about how Aiyuk’s actions affect his own market and whether he’s making it harder for Washington to pursue him.

• Guest Take: TJ Houshmandzadeh on the “Speakeasy” podcast rips Commanders GM Adam Peters for even considering Aiyuk.

  • “You sign Brandon Aiyuk, the Commanders should fire you the day you sign him… the NFL is rolling with or without you. Get your ass on the bus and enjoy the ride or get your ass off.” – Houshmandzadeh (07:07)

• Hosts React: Sean and Seth mock the audacity of criticizing a GM for a move that hasn’t happened, comparing it to prior hot takes about Texans GM Nick Caserio preemptively.

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NBA Banter: Analytics & Big Four Speculation

[09:31–13:15, 24:45–33:16]

Josh Hart’s “Analytics are for Nerds” Comment

• Clip Played: Josh Hart jokes on his podcast that “analytics are for geeky, unathletic white guys.”
  • Hart: “I just always thought analytics [were] for like geeky, unathletic white guys… wanted to be part of the league but just couldn’t make it playing basketball.” (09:31)
• Hosts’ Take:
  • Seth points out this is a dated argument: “Every NBA team... has an appreciation for analytics. Kevin Durant is one of the most analytically-minded players in the NBA.” (10:11)
  • Sean notes that Hart himself benefits from analytics: “He’s one of these guys that fills the stat sheet—analytics reward selfless play, unselfish play.” (10:48)

PettyCast Moment: Emmanuel Acho on Caitlin Clark & the WNBA

• Clip Played: Emmanuel Acho claims the WNBA would be “better without Caitlin Clark” now that she’s gotten them attention.
  • "Caitlin Clark has gotten the WNBA over the necessary threshold… Caitlyn did what only Caitlyn could do and we don’t need her to do anymore.” (13:15)
• Hosts’ Reaction:
  • Seth and Sean roast the take, citing massive viewership and ticket sales driven by Clark.
  • Seth: “The TV ratings drop by 50% when she’s not out there. Like, come on, what on earth are you talking about?” (14:52)
  • Sean: “My favorite part is Acho talking about the WNBA in the first person, like he plays power forward for the Sparks.” (15:09)

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Pure Petty: Johnny Manziel & Dolly Parton

[16:04–19:41]

Manziel Still Bitter at Cleveland

• Clip Played: Johnny Manziel, on “Nightcap,” admits he’ll always root against the Browns.
  • “I think I'm going to be pissed — I’m gonna hate them forever.” (16:30)
• Hosts both agree Manziel's brand is being the villain: “It gets more clicks when your name’s out there, more when you say stuff like he just said.” – Seth (17:22)

Dolly Parton Takes On BUC-EE’s

• Dolly opens a huge, Buc-ee’s-style truck stop in Tennessee, quipping: “I couldn’t leave it to Beavers.” (18:15)
• Seth admires her play-on-words; Sean celebrates her as a “national treasure” and is impressed by the amenities (“tricked out,” with showers and laundry).

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Rockets’ Petty—Traffic Stop Advice and Listener Interaction

[23:02–24:45]

• Seth rehashes his “Five Point Plan” for getting out of a traffic ticket, arguing brutal honesty is key:
  • “When the officer asks if you know why he pulled you over, you need to be as brutally honest as possible… it just kind of softens everything up.” (23:58)
• Advice draws texts from listeners, and playful debate about Sean’s “ticketable face” ensues.

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NBA Warriors “Big Four” Superteam Rumors

[24:45–33:16]

Shams Charania Audio: Warriors Plotting Big Four

• Report: Draymond Green opts out, possibly paving the way for a Warriors “Big Four” with Steph Curry, Green, Anthony Davis, and LeBron James (26:10). Would require AD trade and LeBron possibly signing at a discount.
• Hosts’ Reaction:
  • Sean: “This would be the oldest collection of guys ganging up together that I can remember.”
  • Seth compares to the failed 2012-13 Lakers experiment. “For it to really work out, all these guys would have to have a resurgence.”
  • Both are intrigued by the spectacle, but doubt their actual title chances: “At least one of these guys isn’t playing in the playoffs.” (31:49)
  • Seth: “Draymond’s a good player… He’s not anybody you would attach to a big four. He’s not the marquee guy.” (32:40)
  • Sean: “I’d take him on the Rockets, though.”

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World Cup: Freddy Watch After Germany Loss

[37:40–47:38]

Recap of Knockout Round and Freddy’s Story

• Major upsets: Morocco beats the Netherlands, Paraguay beats Germany—both on penalties. (37:40)
• Focus: The fate of “Freddy,” the viral German fan (J.J. Watt connection), whose team is now knocked out.
  • Sean: “He is doing a lot of real people things… just taking in the whole Americana experience.” (40:14)
  • Seth: “He hasn’t tried to become famous. Nobody’s doxxed him yet. He hasn’t shown his face.” (40:38)
• Freddy plans to stay in the US until July 23 despite Germany’s exit, asking followers for road trip suggestions.
  • Sean: “My guess is Freddie is going to get a lot of offers in the coming weeks.” (42:54)

What’s Next for Freddy?

• Hosts brainstorm what he should do: county fairs, amusement parks, Vegas, Mackinac Island.
• Seth: “He seems like he’s trying to do the anti-tourism thing—get the real, authentic American experience.” (44:29)
• Crowd-sourced suggestions pour in for Freddie.
• Sean: “He’ll be at the finals. 100%. He will get tickets to the World Cup finals—that’s my prediction.” (47:38)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Bill Simmons: "Simmons never turns down a chance to take a shot at not just the Houston sports teams, but the Houston fans themselves." – Seth, 04:06
• On Analytics: “Every NBA team… they have an appreciation for… how they integrate the analytics. Kevin Durant is one of the most analytically-minded players in the NBA.” – Seth, 10:11
• On Caitlin Clark: "TV ratings drop by 50% when she's not out there. Like, come on, what on earth are you talking about?" – Seth, 14:52
• On Manziel: “I think Johnny Manziel makes his living now off of being Johnny Football… It gets more clicks when your name’s out there, more when you say stuff like he just said.” – Seth, 17:22
• On Freddy’s Appeal: "Germany may have lost, but nobody in the world won more than Freddie this World Cup." (Listener response quoted by Sean, 45:48)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:32 – PettyCast begins; Rockets slander from Simmons/Lowe
• 05:10 – Brandon Aiyuk's Instagram Live; Commanders/Niners drama
• 07:07 – TJ Houshmandzadeh calls out Commanders GM
• 09:31 – Josh Hart’s analytics comments
• 13:15 – Emmanuel Acho on Caitlin Clark/WNBA
• 16:04 – Johnny Manziel’s anti-Cleveland rant
• 18:15 – Dolly Parton’s Buc-ee’s jab
• 23:02 – Seth’s “Five Point Plan” for traffic stops
• 26:10 – Shams Charania: Warriors “Big Four” report
• 31:49 – Sean predicts playoff absences for potential Warriors superteam
• 37:40 – World Cup knockout round recaps; Freddy update
• 42:54 – Freddy's US road trip ideas and hosts’ suggestions
• 45:48 – Listener sentiment: “Germany may have lost, but nobody in the world won more than Freddie this World Cup”

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Tone & Takeaways

• Language/Tone: Irreverent, blunt, and playful, true to Houston sports radio tradition. The hosts mix mockery, expertise, and audience engagement.
• Flow: Fast-paced with tight topical transitions. Segments include strong opinions, humor, and local color—all with a relatable, H-Town-first focus.

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This detailed summary offers a clear, timestamped roadmap through the banter, debates, and highlights of Payne & Pendergast Hour 3 (June 30, 2026)—perfect for listeners wanting the heart and soul of the episode without the filler.

Transcript

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[Sean Pendergast]

All right, are you ready to get petty, my friend?

[Seth]

Yeah, super petty.

[Sean Pendergast]

Super petty.

[Seth]

Petty about the. The 10% of cops who don't let me off jack booted thugs.

[Sean Pendergast]

We got. We have plenty of texts. Your reaction to the five points of getting out of a. Or of maybe getting out of a ticket.

[Seth]

Yeah, the.

[Sean Pendergast]

The. Basically how you should act when a cop pulls you over.

[Seth]

More of a guide of things not to do.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth]

Has it been well received or people telling me I'm full of crap?

[Sean Pendergast]

No, it's been. It's. Well, it's been well received. There are a couple people saying yes, Seth, I did that exact same thing many, many times.

[Seth]

It doesn't work all the time.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth]

Does it help to have a lot of charisma and charm too? Should I put that on the bullet point like you?

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes, yes, a lot of yes, you have. You do have charisma and charm. Absolutely.

[Seth]

I'm aware of that. Yeah. I don't shy away from that compliment. I own that one.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep, that's the problem.

[Seth]

The part is. Yes. It's like a woman asking someone, like, how do I have. How do I get big boobs? Like, I. You got it or you don't? Naturally. I mean, naturally. Yeah. There's.

[Sean Pendergast]

There's fabrications. Yeah. Um. All right, let's get to the Petty cast. This was the audio we were going to play in the previous segment. This is Bill Simmons with Zach Lowe. Kind of throwing some shade at the Rockets here. I'm curious how Petty Rocket fans get hearing this.

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

One last point I wanted to make in that Jalen trade. We didn't have a Houston trade in there because Houston has literally been telling everybody, we want no part of Jalen.

[Seth]

We're not interested.

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

That team was a Bravo show last year. How were they dry? How are they drawing the line at, oh, Jaylen Brown would make us weird. You guys had the weirdest team in the planet. You know what Jaylen Brown would do is actually show up for games and not roll over in a playoff series anyway.

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

Lamelo.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay.

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

It's just like, settle down.

[Sean Pendergast]

What's the number one?

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

You guys were a disaster last year.

[Sean Pendergast]

I'm guessing there's probably a lot of Rocket fans that feel similar to Bill Simmons right now. Rocket fans are still pretty bitter about how everything ended last season.

[Seth]

Yeah, I think the one thing with Brunson is the contract would be

[Sean Pendergast]

Brown. Jalen Brown.

[Seth]

Excuse me. Brown. What did I. Oh, Brunson.

[Sean Pendergast]

Brunson.

[Seth]

Yeah, Yeah, I got Brunson on the brain. Jalen Brown. The one thing about Jaylen Brown is the contract would be a bit of an obstacle. But the other thing. The other part, though, that unless, you know, Simmons is operating with inside information, it seems like he's largely despised by most people in the NBA, So I don't think he has that much inside information. They also acted like they had no interest in a Kevin Durant trade last year, too. So, like, let's not act like doing the appropriate thing of playing kind of hard to get is the same as saying, we want no part of Jalen Brown.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep. And Simmons is a Celtics fan, too, on top of that.

[Seth]

So he's got a little, like, I look, I'm not look. He's got something against the city of Houston, and I don't know what it is. And, you know, I don't try to be hypersensitive about this. Usually people always, like, say, like, oh, this guy's always bagging on Houston when it's somebody who bags on everybody. Simmons never turns down a chance to take a shot at not just the Houston sports teams, but the Houston fans themselves.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep. So take that personally, Rocket fans. Be petty at Bill Simmons. Petty cast Brandon Iuk it would not be a Petty cast without Brandon Iuk's act in some way, shape or form. From this past week. The number of clips we could have picked for this are numerous. He's been on Instagram live and on social media talking about his situation with the Niners, campaigning basically to become a Washington commander. I'll just play this one because it's the shortest one. It's the end of his Instagram live from a couple days ago where he was sort of laying out his side of the story about John lynch coming to his house and everything. He says none of it matters. I'm coming for you with the belt on October 19th.

[Seth]

I'm trying to get better, I'm trying to grow, I'm trying to heal. So I ain't finna hold it against. But we is not cool.

[Sean Pendergast]

We won't be cool.

[Seth]

And I will never be stepping in

[Sean Pendergast]

that building except for on October 19th

[Seth]

when I come through with that mother belt.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. October 19th the commanders play the 49ers.

[Seth]

So as of now, there's just no reason to believe that the Commanders have actually expressed any interest in signing Brandon Aiuk other than that Jaden Daniels and Ayuk are really good friends.

[Sean Pendergast]

Right.

[Seth]

I think that this is. This is where he's setting himself up. If they do, if it does turn out. And by the way, if the Commanders sign Ayuk, it's going to have to come with, like, they're going to have to basically turn over all their investigation.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's going to come with an investigation.

[Seth]

Yeah, Like Iuk. IUK has no clue how much he might be. Just as he sabotaged the deal to the Steelers, the trade to the Steelers. I mean, maybe the Commanders were really interested in having Ayuk and he's almost making it harder and harder and harder for them to do it without basically like working their way into some kind of a collusion or tampering charge.

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Seth]

I think that the 49ers would have a really good plan for how to basically be sure that that day ended with a Brandon Iuk meltdown.

[Sean Pendergast]

Oh, yeah, like that.

[Seth]

You know that just, man, like even more so than we usually would. Let's be sure Iuk really doesn't have a good day because there will be an eruption on the sideline. He might pull an Antonio Brown and start. Take his jersey off and start jumping Jack his way off. Off the field. Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. I think they know just what buttons to push.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Just one more ad here on the IUK situation. This is TJ Hushman Zada on Emmanuel Acho's speakeasy stream. Say, basically almost taking Adam Peters, the GM of the Commanders, to task, because before he's. Before we even know if he wants to sign Brandon Auk to a contract.

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

Take a listen, Adam Peters, you sign Brandon Auk, the Commanders should fire you the day you sign him. Do it. Like, what are you thinking? What makes y' all any different than the San Francisco 49ers? You don't think he gonna do to you what he's doing to them? Like, I don't understand this. If I'm Jane Daniels, B.A. is my boy. If it doesn't work out, is he still gonna be my boy? So do I even want to see if it will work out? Because I may ruin a relationship over sports. And so I don't know, like, what's going on. I don't know why he's doing these things. But as players, as a former player and as players that are watching this, that are current players, bro, the NFL is rolling with or without you. Get your ass on the bus and enjoy the ride or get your ass off.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay?

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

Cause we rolling.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's right. He's right about that last part. The NFL is much bigger than any one player that. He's right about that. The two people. He's. He almost. He's talking like they've signed him already, right?

[Seth]

Yeah. Like, he's like, Peters, what are you doing? Nothing. We. I'm guessing he's literally sitting in his office being like, go. Would you please shut up, Brandon?

[Sean Pendergast]

Stop talking about us. Yeah, yeah.

[Seth]

It just. It's so weird. It reminds me of that. That though. Him. Him chiding the GM for something that the GM hasn't. Hasn't even done yet, and we don't know if he has plans to do.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

It reminds me of when Shannon Sharp went off on Casario or for Casario for not drafting a quarterback before the 2023 draft.

[Sean Pendergast]

Right?

[Seth]

Like. Like, what are you doing? How could you not draft the court? Well, let's see that. Oh, look, they drafted.

[Sean Pendergast]

Lo and behold. Yeah. Yeah, they. They. They drafted quarterback. And then the part in the middle there about, like, Jaden Daniels, PA Is your boy. Why would you even look at him? Because this might. You might ruin your friendship if he comes on the team. You'd ruin it over sports. I'm like, all right, that's.

[Seth]

We don't know. I like, do we know how close

[Sean Pendergast]

those two Actually, I have no idea.

[Seth]

They were teammates together and like, yeah, Jaden Daniels might also be the old like, oh no, I'm going to click decline that call.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Brandon Iuk.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Yeah, I was very impressed with how it got himself in a moment that hasn't happened yet. Like he was very. In that moment that hasn't occurred. Um, this is Josh Hart. We played this yesterday saying on his podcast with Jalen Brunson that analytics, analytics are for the nerdy white dudes out there.

[Seth]

There's a lot of things that analytics don't show or don't take into account. You know, I just always thought analytics for like geeky on. On athletic white guys.

[Sean Pendergast]

I wanted to be a part of

[Seth]

the league but just couldn't make it playing basketball. So they decided to put math into the equation. That's always how I felt analytics. So I wonder who people are going

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

to think you're talking about because I

[Seth]

feel like that's, that's.

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

There's probably a lot of people that fit into that.

[Seth]

Huh?

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

Probably.

[Sean Pendergast]

Shout out to our Doppo. No, he's our black analytical guy on our, on our team.

[Seth]

So shout out to him.

[Sean Pendergast]

Shout out to him. When, hey, when we do analytics with Doppo, it's pretty damn cool. But when these nerdy white guys walk up to me with their iPads, I'm.

[Seth]

Look, I'm not going to take the bait on the whole race part of it. The whole thing is it's like, it just feels like an argument from 50, 15 years ago. Every single NBA team, including the ball knowers and the coaches and everybody else, like, they have an appreciation for like to varying degrees about how they integrate the analytics. Like, and then Kevin Durant is one of the most analytically minded players in the NBA. Like we're so far beyond it being an us versus them thing that it annoys me. I get petty when people try to paint it that way where it's like, yeah, there's extremes on either end, but by and large it's, it's a part of all the major sports.

[Sean Pendergast]

Now the thing that's weird about that too is that this is just my gut reaction about the guy actually conveying the message. Josh Hart. Josh Hart strikes me as a guy that actually his game probably benefits more from advanced analytics. Yeah. Than, than, than somebody who is just a high volume scorer or a great three point shooter. He's got A floor. He's one of these guys that fills the stat sheets with rebounds and steals.

[Seth]

The whole. The whole thing about analytics that I think sometimes people lose sight of is that in a lot of ways it's. There's things about it that are super annoying or that you just don't want to accept or whatever. But in some ways, in basketball especially, but in every sport, it does lend validity to some of the things that you used to just feel like, okay, that's just a gritty guy that I want to have on my team. And now the analytics will back up, like, oh, the stuff that Shane Batty would do. Like, okay, it doesn't show up in the box score, but it has an effect on the outcome.

[Sean Pendergast]

Absolutely.

[Seth]

So it like the analytics reward selfless play, unselfish play. Yeah. And kind of documents it in a way that before used to just be like, you know, it would be a coach arguing with a scout. Like, coach. Like coaches who are more anti analytics in general. Like some of the arguments they used to get in about like, I don't know, the guy just. The defense just works better when he's on the field.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes.

[Seth]

And if you look at the conventional stats, it doesn't show it, but it just, it does show up in the analytics.

[Sean Pendergast]

Absolutely.

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

No, and basketball is the best with it like this. How are they with this guy on the floor? How are they with this guy off the floor? Yeah, like, that's, that's why it was weird that Josh Hart is the one that feels that way. Cause I'm looking at him, I'm like, dude, you probably benefit from the very stats that you're railing against right now.

[Seth]

The most hilarious thing about it though, was that it took 20 years of the three point attempt being legal before teams with their advanced analytics realized, hey, wait a second. Three points is 50% more than two points. We shoot like a big difference.

[Sean Pendergast]

40% from three. That's the same thing as shooting 60% from.

[Seth]

Hold up, hold up a second. What you're telling me saying I can get six points in two shots? That's crazy.

[Sean Pendergast]

Let's. Let's get to a couple more of these. It's the Petty cast on a. On a Tuesday, Emmanuel Acho, boy Acho had been on a pretty nice streak with me of takes where I'm like, all right, that's not bad, Acho. That's. That's pretty good. This one is just. He's getting killed for this one. This is Emmanuel Ocho on the WNBA and Caitlin Clark.

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

The W at this Junction in Time would be better without Caitlin Clark because she is a bigger distraction than she is an additive. Caitlin Clark has gotten the WNBA over the necessary threshold they needed. Now people are watching. Now we realize, oh, there's talent in the W. Talent that's actually even greater than Caitlin Clark. And I'm not just talking about bigs like Asia. I'm talking about the Olivia Miles. I'm talking about the Paige Beckers. Hell, I'm talking about the Kelsey Mitchells. Caitlyn got the necessary eyes there, but now that the eyes are there, we don't necessarily need her anymore. Caitlyn did what only Caitlyn could do and we don't necessarily need her to do anymore. Thank you, Caitlyn. We can take it from here. Now you're saying that the WNBA needs to be cognizant of where they put Caitlyn Clark on posters. The WNBA and the officials need to alter the rules for Caitlin Clark. The WNBA and opposing players need to treat Caitlin Clark more gently. Caitlin Clark's coach needs to be cognizant of how she talks to her in public because it's going to look like there's an issue unless we can take off our gloves for Caitlyn Clark and stop trying to act like she's a messiah. The WNBA could and would be better off without Caitlyn Clark. At least without this version of everybody coddling and caressing and catering to Caitlyn Clark.

[Seth]

Let's, let's check in on TV ratings in the WNBA and look at the Indiana Fever compared to everybody dumb. They get 36% more fans on the road than the, than the next highest team. Like there's 36 above the second place teams as far as fans on the road.

[Sean Pendergast]

What are you talking about?

[Seth]

Every, like the, the biggest games by viewership number and everything are all the fever. The, like, it's just, it's absurd. The difference. The TV ratings drop by 50% when she's not out there. Like, come on, like, what on earth are you talking about?

[Sean Pendergast]

And Acho. My favorite part of that take is Acho using the wnba, talking about it in the first person. Like he plays power forward for the LA Sparks or something like that. We don't need you anymore. We have Ajo Wilson. We this, we that. That is a lock to be replayed on Friday on this show.

[Seth]

That's like when they thought they could win games without the water boy. You know, it's like the water boys kind of a big deal. It's just like, let's. Yeah, you can do all that other cool stuff and everything.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep.

[Seth]

Yeah. And let's reel off. As he rolls off a bunch of names. Good and prominent WNBA players. The average sports fan does. Has no name recognition of.

[Sean Pendergast]

Bingo.

[Seth]

You know, like, as far as drawing extra eyeballs to the sport. No, they're. They're not there yet. Like to. To the degree they're like by a 50% margin. The. When. When Caitlin Clark's not there, whether you love or hate her, you can't deny the impact she has to the team.

[Sean Pendergast]

No doubt. No doubt. Here's Johnny Manziel on the Nightcap podcast with Ochocinko and Shannon Sharp. This is as petty as it gets towards the city of Cleveland.

[Seth]

I sit here today and I go back and forth with, man, am I

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

going to let Cleveland off the hook

[Seth]

and just like let it go, or am I going to sit here with

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

hate and animosity in my heart for

[Sean Pendergast]

the rest of my life?

[Seth]

And I finally sit here today, I'm like it. I think I'm going to be pissed

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

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[Guest Contributor/Caller]

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[Seth]

It is what it is, man.

[Sean Pendergast]

No, no love for the Browns.

[Seth]

I'm rooting for 16 seasons.

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

Every season.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay.

[Seth]

16 seasons. Every.

[Sean Pendergast]

Every season. Every. And they're doing their best to accommodate him, I tell you.

[Seth]

So what are you hoping for?

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

A.

[Seth]

Like a. A win in the final week of the season?

[Sean Pendergast]

Oh, I knew. Yeah. I knew the 17 thing would.

[Seth]

Well, I mean, it was really. It's like. It's kind of like I mess up. I mess up the 17 stuff all the time.

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Not as much as I used to, but I talk about it every day. I. I think that this is the thing about Johnny Manziel. I don't believe him. I think that Johnny Manziel makes his living now off of being Johnny Football and everything that comes to it with it. Like almost the self destructive rock star Persona is part of his brand.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep.

[Seth]

And I think he goes. I think he knows that he's to blame and all that stuff. But it. It gets more clicks when in your name's out there, more when you say stuff like he just said.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. All right, last one. Dolly Parton, one of my favorite human beings on the planet, opened a truck stop in Tennessee last week. They had the ribbon cutting ceremony. It looks amazing. They have a full restaurant buffet. It's really nice inside. They've got all sorts of shopping. It's huge. It's very much like Buc EE's. And we know that Buc EE's a Texas institution has been expanding to other states and I think they have. I think Bucky's is in Tennessee. I'm not completely certain. But Dolly was not going to let Bucky's take over Tennessee. And she said as much at the ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm sure some of you wonder why

[Seth]

I wanted a truck stop.

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, I couldn't Leave it to Beavers. Why does Dolly want a truck stop in Tennessee? Well, she wasn't going to Leave it to Beavers. Yeah. Little shot at Bucky's.

[Seth]

But also a nice little play on words that is only going to hit with. With guys our age and older.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Leave it to Beaver.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

The. I think that it looks really nice.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's very nice. Yeah.

[Seth]

I'm gonna say I. You know, my favorite thing, because I drive a good amount. I like truck stops more than any other thing. Yep. Because you can usually. Usually the restrooms are really clean. I've never had the guts to take them up on the shower that you can get there.

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

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[Seth]

But. And I wonder if you. Do you have to be a trucker to get a. To get a shower at a truck stop.

[Sean Pendergast]

I'm not sure if you need to show ID as a truck trucker to get into the shower.

[Seth]

Maybe I'll get a commercial license just for the hell of it.

[Sean Pendergast]

Or a fake trucker id. Yeah, I got a fake id. Yeah. Did you see. I don't know if you've seen the video of it. The she. They also have a slew of washers and dryers in there, too. I know you like to do laundry sometimes when you're.

[Seth]

Well, when I'm on a road trip. Yeah, I do. I like to pack light and just do my. Do my laundry frequently.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Seth]

Because everybody. They've all got wi fi's now. And I bet this one does too.

[Sean Pendergast]

Obviously it's tricked out, man. It is a tricked out truck stop.

[Seth]

Is it a. Is it a truck stop also or is it just a. It's called a travel stop.

[Sean Pendergast]

She called it a truck stop in that.

[Seth]

So they got truck. Okay.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Yeah. She. She said, you wonder why. Why I would want to own a truck stop? Dolly Parton, you're an American institution. I'm not going to let any petty people come after you for your little joke about Buc EE's. And I love Buc EE's. I love Buc EE's. All right, there's your petty cast for today. Sean, you have a very ticketable face. I don't blame the cops. Sorry. Okay.

[Seth]

You know, your agitated face is pretty fearsome.

[Sean Pendergast]

You've seen it before. Yeah.

[Seth]

What's. Yeah, it's like I could see where even if you're a little bit agitated, the cop might look at it and be like, what a jerk.

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

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[Sean Pendergast]

Why is he. Why is he being such a jerk to me? I could see that I need to. I need to improve my bedside manner from time to time.

[Seth]

People wouldn't realize it because you do have just such a rosy, you know, a rosy disposition. But when you do. When you do flip the switch, it's a scarce look you give.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep.

[Seth]

All right. You're probably a good boss because it's like that. That 2% of time that Sean's giving you the look.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep.

[Seth]

You're terrified, and you get terrified.

[Sean Pendergast]

I can't believe I'm disappointing this man.

[Seth]

Yeah. All right.

[Sean Pendergast]

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[Sean Pendergast]

We might have to, we might have to reset the Rossini audio from earlier. Seth?

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Your, your five point plan to interact with police officers on a traffic stop got a lot of, lot of reaction from our.

[Seth]

You know what? Based on some of the responses, I'm guessing because people are claiming that they've tried all of these and it hasn't worked. Which. A, yeah, sometimes it's not going to work. B, the, this is the part that people don't listen to or don't realize how, how, how literal I'm being about this. When the officer asks you if he, if you know why he pulled you over, you need to be as brutally honest as possible because they never get that. And I think that's probably the key to kind of just like opening up a window of like, oh, this guy's actually, wow, what a good dude. He told me exactly how fast he was going. Everybody always says I was going a few miles per hour over, oh, was I going that fast? Oh, did I do that? If you are brutally honest about what you did, that they so rarely hear that, that I think it just kind of softens everything up a little bit. And the other thing though too, and there's not a lot you can do about this if you've already got some points on your license. It helps a lot to have a clean driving record.

[Sean Pendergast]

For sure. Yeah.

[Seth]

So for the guy who said, I've tried this and it's never worked, like, okay, so that tells me that multiple times you've gotten tickets. With each ensuing ticket, it gets harder and harder if you're, if you're a guy. So you gotta just do yourself a favor and try to be a law abiding citizen until those points clear off your license and try it when you've got a clean slate because they're much more likely to let you off if you don't have a, you know, a speckled driving history. We'll read some of it, but be brutally honest.

[Sean Pendergast]

Brutally honest?

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Like if you can say down to the mile per hour, how fast you were going, you're an outlier.

[Seth]

And usually if you're paying attention, this is the other part of it too. If you're paying attention and you see when the cop got you that, I don't know, I think my suspicion has always been that, like, okay, the guy realizes I was at least paying attention, opposed to mindlessly just driving on at whatever speed and then. And being completely unaware of your surroundings.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep.

[Seth]

So, yeah, if you're like, yeah, I was going 80 when I came over that hill and, you know, it helps if like, as soon as don't, don't slam on the brakes when you see the cop, but just slow down to the speed limit when you see him come up behind you. Just be ready to pull over once he turns his lights on.

[Sean Pendergast]

As far over to the right as you can possibly safely go.

[Seth]

But be the. But the part that people will skip is you have to be brutally honest about what you did.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay, I like that. We'll read some of the texts here in a minute. Let's get to Sham Sharanya from yesterday. This was on ESPN News coming out yesterday, to some somewhat surprise, I guess, that Draymond Green declined his $27.7 million player option. That headline surprised people. Sham Sharanya, though, lays out how this is part of a broader plan for Golden State to really, I think, kind of take one last swing at this whole NBA title thing.

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

The warriors in the last several days formulated a grand plan of putting together a big four of Stephen Curry, Draymond Green, Anthony Davis and LeBron James. But in order to do that, they needed the flexibility of Draymond Green opting out of his contract. $27.7 million. There was an expectation in the last week, several weeks, that Draymond Green would be opting in, but he's now opting out. And so AD and LeBron James would have to be a package deal in order to come to Golden State and team up with Green and Steph Curry. And in this sequencing of events, Draymond Green would opt out as he did to take a multi year deal at less than 27 million a year. AD would require a trade of Jimmy Butler and draft capital. And then that would mean LeBron James potentially at the mid level exception.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay, so this is what Shams calls a big four. And this first move to set everything in motion is Draymond Green opting out of his deal. We Won't get too deep in the weeds on the NBA and the salary cap and how it all works. But he would. Opting out of his deal gives them the flexibility that they can go make these moves. Drake, they can always bring Draymond back. And, and if, and if it doesn't work out, if this is just LeBron posturing to get more from the Lakers, if this is Anthony Davis posturing maybe to get an extension from the Wizards, which is where he is now, if you haven't been keeping track, then Draymond Green can always just go back and sign a one year, $27 million deal, which is what he would have opted into in the first place if he, you know, so Draymond's going to come out of this hole. He may come out of it with a longer deal with more guaranteed money at an advanced age. The most interesting thing about all this, Seth, is that this would be the oldest collection of guys ganging up with each other that I can ever remember. LeBron James. Yeah, LeBron James is north of 40. Anthony Davis, not sure how old. He's in his 30s and he's got the body of a 50 year old. Steph Curry's been dealing with injuries the last couple of years and Draymond Green isn't getting any younger. Draymond Green, if I'm, if my math is right, Draymond might be the youngest out of all of them and he's in his mid-30s right now. Like, this would be an old team that probably is looking at itself more like. I think this would be an old team that would probably load. Manage like crazy in a real world. Would probably just hope to stay out of the play in, you know, there may be a, in a best case, they're getting home court in the first round. Yeah. Because I don't think this, it's certainly the biggest collection of names you could put together, but I don't think it's better than I like, I don't think they're competing with the spurs or the Thunder.

[Seth]

Feels to me and I know this would be older, but this was an old group. The first one that always jumps to my mind when you throw together old big names was the 20122013 Lakers with Steve Nash, Dwight Howard, Kyle Gasol and yeah, yeah, like that. And it was, it was like people. There was so much gushing about that team going into it and you're like, all right. I mean, but you've got some serious questions and issues here. Just because the names are going to sell a lot of jerseys and everything and put butts in the seats. That's not that, that, that, that people were, people were acting like it was those guys in their prime altogether.

[Sean Pendergast]

Check. That's a good one. I, I wonder, I Wonder which group. LeBron being 41 now alone probably pushes this group, but it's, it's a great analogy because it would be an ensemble cast being brought together, hoping that you can blend this whole thing. And I don't know what the injury situation was with all of those guys at the time.

[Seth]

Steve Nash was at that point, he was 38 years old when the Lakers signed up.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay. Okay.

[Seth]

And, you know, it was, I mean, it just, it was, it was just for it to really work out, it would have to be that, okay, all these guys have a resurgence into, into what they used to.

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, it didn't work. I mean, it worked so poorly. Dwight Howard signed with the Rockets the next year.

[Seth]

Right.

[Sean Pendergast]

He didn't, he didn't go back to Dwight.

[Seth]

Howard was kind of the young guy in that book.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth]

And at that point, Kobe was 34 years old.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Dwight was probably still in his 20s at that point.

[Seth]

Yeah, yeah, he was young, but he was also an imperfect, you know, Dwight. Dwight was Dwight.

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

Yep.

[Seth]

Dwight was. Whatever the hell Dwight was. Well, he's in his 20s, but he'd

[Sean Pendergast]

been around a decade already, I think, in the league in 04, if I'm

[Seth]

not mistaken, August hall was still, I mean, he still had a lot of years after that. I don't know how old he was at that time. Yeah, he was 32. He was still young. So really. See, see, it was, you know what it was, it was, it was the Steve Nash part of it that was really annoying, was that I, like, he was 39 years old and people were acting like, oh, yeah. But because he's got all of these guys that he's working with, it, it doesn't matter. His experience is there. He was going to be what Tom Brady would one day become. Yep. A guy that could just be such a mastermind at distributing the ball that it didn't matter how old he was.

[Sean Pendergast]

I, as a basketball fan, I want this to happen. I, I, I think I'm super intrigued by it. I'm super intrigued to see what it would look like medically with all these guys for a year together. They, you know, they're all guy. Even LeBron has dealt with stuff over the last, I mean, Anthony Davis has heard all the time. Steph Curry's been having knee problems the last couple of years. You know, Draymond Green is an older play. Draymond Green might be older than all those guys, but Steve Nash that you were talking about on that Lakers team back in 2013, I. I want to see this happen. I don't know how big a title threat they would be. As a Rockets fan, it doesn't really affect me. Like, I. If you're a Rockets fan, the Rockets are trying to compete on the level of the spurs and the Thunder. Does this make the Western. I don't. Like, does this make the Western Conference harder? I don't know. Is LeBron a bigger threat playing with Luca, or is he a bigger threat playing with three old dudes that are, you know, when they're good, they're good players, but they're. They haven't been available all the time.

[Seth]

Right.

[Sean Pendergast]

I think there's a chance this team goes into the playoffs and at least one of these guys isn't playing. That's where.

[Seth]

No, I think that when you've got one or two possibly old guys who aren't at their physical peak anymore, then, yeah, that experience can make a big difference.

[Sean Pendergast]

None of these guys are in physical peak anymore.

[Seth]

Right. That's what I mean. Like, like that you need to. Hopefully you've got it as a guy that's also helping younger. You help younger guys be a better version of themselves, and then by their sheer athleticism and explosiveness and everything, they make you a better version of yourself because it takes some of the pressure off of you. This doesn't feel like that.

[Sean Pendergast]

I'm a little offended too. On behalf of all the previous Big Threes out there or Big Fours, that Sean Sharon is calling this a Big Four. Just because Draymond has a podcast and he's a noteworthy and well known name doesn't mean he's a good player anymore. Draymond's not a good player anymore. Like his Big Four. He's a big.

[Seth]

Yeah, he's good player. He's just not. He's not anybody you would attach to. He's the To. To like, oh, yeah, he's the marquee guy or the attraction.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's still. He's. He puts in effort at the D. I mean, I'll give Draymond credit. Like, he's a good player as far

[Seth]

as, like, yeah, he's a capable starter. Like, yeah, he's not. Yeah, like I'm saying, good. Only that he's. He's. He's a quality starter, but he's nothing near, like, oh, best in the league at this.

[Sean Pendergast]

No, no, that's it. But like a big four. Like, right?

[Seth]

No. Yeah. Definitely not.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I take him on the Rockets. I would just. I think he bring. He would bring something.

[Seth]

This team, because he's a good player.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's. He's a good player. But any. And specifically, he. He does have that dog in him, you know, he. Draymond. I know. I know he's dirty probably, and he whines a lot to referees, but I'd be. I'd be here for it. Okay. Text message. What if the cop has been. This is somebody texting me about how I act with cops when I get pulled over. What if the cop has been working all day and he's kind of sweaty and stinky and maybe Sean's gonna call another cop to rat out the cop for being sweaty and stinky.

[Seth]

Sean will go, Karen, on your ass. That's probably, you know, the biggest thing Sean does that probably keeps him from getting out of tickets is he. He takes his phone out and says, I'm recording this. Just so you know, I'm recording this. You don't have the right. And then he's got a little. He's got a little printout from the Internet about his constitutional rights.

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

Yep.

[Seth]

You don't even have the right to be doing this.

[Sean Pendergast]

I have the Bill of Rights on a Kindle in a shotgun next to me. Yes.

[Seth]

I pulled this up. I pulled this up before I even pulled over.

[Sean Pendergast]

I stand by my Karen Ness with those two stinky, sweaty, smelly little teenagers.

[Seth]

They were sitting in the wrong seats and they were sitting next to you.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah. They stunk. They weren't their seats. I don't have to sit next to

[Seth]

their nostalgic when I hear it. When I smell sweaty teenagers for, like, it reminds me of, like, high school locker room everything. Stop it. I. How could you possibly. Oh, just get your mind out of wherever your mind is.

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

Die.

[Sean Pendergast]

Those. Those kids. Those. They stunk, man. There was no nostalgia. All right, Pain and Pendergast with you. Hey, the World Cup. Okay. I think a lot of people are overestimating the impact of one of the World cup games from yesterday. And it's an off the field thing. I will tell you what that is. Coming up next.

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[Sean Pendergast]

All right, Good to be with you. Pain and pendergast with you. So, so yesterday was, was one of the, the better, one of the best World cup days. Three knockout round games. Two of them went to penalty kicks. Both ended in upsets. Morocco, if you didn't stay up late for that one. Morocco beat the Netherlands last night in penalty kicks. Paraguay beat Germany in penalty kicks. And in the early game here in Houston, Brazil scored a goal in stoppage time to beat Japan 2 to 1. So it was a, it was a game.

[Seth]

Canada beat South Africa. Was that two days ago?

[Sean Pendergast]

That was on Sunday?

[Seth]

Yeah, that was Sunday. That's. That was in stoppage time too. Like it's just a boatload of stoppage time.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, it's. It's been a really exciting there, there. There's been four knockout round games and they've all been amazing. They've either ended with a game winning goal and stoppage time in regulation or they've gone to penalty kicks.

[Seth]

The only reason I didn't know if Canada was over the international date line or not.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes.

[Seth]

Couldn't remember it was on Sunday or not.

[Sean Pendergast]

That's right.

[Seth]

Time zone differences when it comes to the World Cup, Sean, it gets dicey.

[Sean Pendergast]

It happens, man. It happens. This is the first time that Germany has ever lost in penalty kicks in a World cup game. And it's been, you know, they've been in tons of them. But the biggest loss that it seems like people are lamenting, Seth, I think inaccurately is that we are no longer going to be part of the Freddie experience anymore. That with Germany, with Freddy's team Germany eliminated. I saw a lot of tweets like, oh, I was having so much fun following Freddie. Freddie is the German super fan that if, you know, if you listen to this show, we've mentioned him quite a bit. J.J. watt hooked him up with a room at the Post Oak here and a bunch of different Houston cuisine and trinkets and things like that. And he's gotten the royal treatment. He's gotten the royal treatment everywhere along the way. Where I will credit Freddie is it does seem like he's doing in addition to things like going backstage at the Ella Langley concert and sitting in the. The Diamond Club at Dyke and park and doing some things that only certain people get to do. He is doing a lot of regular people things as well. Like he's. He's been driving through New England, he and his buddies, because the Germany game was in, in Foxborough yesterday. So they've had a few days to kind of experience driving around Vermont and New Hampshire. They stopped and watched A kid's baseball game in Vermont.

[Seth]

Yeah. And when they drove from Toronto, they actually swung west so they could go down through Detroit and then across, taking state roads and everything all the way to. To New England. Yeah. So they're doing a lot.

[Sean Pendergast]

They're doing a lot of. Kind of just taking in the whole Americana experience.

[Seth]

Well, they had driven from. Didn't they drive from Houston to Toronto, too? I think they drove that whole day, drove from Dallas to Toronto.

[Sean Pendergast]

They know they drove from. No, remember, because they drove from Houston to OKC for the concert.

[Seth]

Okc. That's.

[Sean Pendergast]

And then okc, Remember they had to get a plane arranged because their flight got canceled to Toronto.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

JJ had to step in and help him with a flight, so.

[Seth]

But he hasn't tried to. He hasn't tried to become famous by this or anything. He hasn't shown his face. Nobody's do him yet that I know of, so we don't even really know who he is. Yeah. And after the World cup is over, he's gonna. He said he's just gonna shut that whole account down.

[Sean Pendergast]

Did he really say.

[Seth]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said he's just not. He said the influencer life isn't for him. So when he gets back to Germany, he's gonna shut his account down.

[Sean Pendergast]

Wow, I didn't know that.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's basically just forking over money. I mean, because you can just sign

[Seth]

like, what I'm guessing is he's like a normal guy with like a good job and he just is happy with his life and he has no. He has no. Because he's seen the positive and the negative side of having this social media.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's a very positive person.

[Seth]

Yeah. So he's probably like, no, this isn't the life for me.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, maybe, maybe. But for those of you who've been following his saga and are concerned in some way that you no longer gonna have this to follow, He. He is not flying back to Germany until as of right now, at least till July 23rd. That's when his. That's. That's when he scheduled to fly back. He obviously did not have plans on Germany not making it out of the month of June for the World cup, but he should. He probably. Probably should have thought it could be a possibility because Germany's not been all that great since they won the World cup in 2014.

[Seth]

No, they haven't. It's been. Nick Wright had just how. How down bad they are in Germany because they go from. You know, they've won it four times going back to 1954. And they've, you know, they were in the semis or the finals or the champions for like a long stretch from 1954 through 2014. And now they've just. They haven't. Like, it's been three straight huge disappointments for them.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep. Freddie tweeted our flight back home is on July 23rd, LOL. We need a lot of good suggestions for what to do in the coming weeks. See, this is where this is. And that tweet's gotten 5.7 million views. This is where Freddie knows what he's doing a little bit. You know, I don't want to. I don't want to make Freddy out to be like, aw, shucks all the time about stuff like, hey, we could use some good suggestions to what to do in the coming weeks. My guess is Freddie is going to get a lot of offers for you in the coming weeks.

[Seth]

Yeah, he'll have some fun stuff to do.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

But a lot of the stuff that he's done hasn't necessarily been stuff that's, you know, like ridiculously over the top or anything. Like you pointed out, a lot of the stuff that he's doing is like, he took a. He took a really cool tour of NASA, but you get the feeling that he was gonna go to NASA maybe anyway, you know, and he got a personalized tour and all that. But it hasn't been. It's not like he, you know, it's not like he's living in five star hotels all the time and doing nothing but living a life of luxury.

[Sean Pendergast]

Where would you. If cost is no issue to Freddie, which we know it won't be, someone's gonna offer him something good. Where would you. Where would you recommend he go? If Freddie could go one place. Cause he's got. He's now got four weeks on his hands to do stuff.

[Guest Contributor/Caller]

He's.

[Seth]

I'm my guess, I'd say, honestly, a lot of the, like, the stuff that I still want to do that I don't do every summer. I'm like, I got to get to some state fairs and even county fairs, stuff like that.

[Sean Pendergast]

Freddie at the county fair, Freddie at the county fairs.

[Seth]

You. You haven't lived life until you've been on a rackety carnival ride operated by a meth head where like, you're like, hey, boy. Yeah, I really might die. This might be it for me. It's every bit as thrilling. And then I would say also to go to some of like, I know when he was driving through Ohio, people told him to go to. Oh, what's the big one there in Sandusky Park? Like, there's some really cool amusement parks that I don't, I don't know if they have anything quite on the caliber of some of the amusement parks and water parks.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Seth]

In Europe that they do have here.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, that'd be good. I was just gonna say Vegas. You know, just go do Freddy. I don't know if he's got the appetite to sit at the blackjack tables or whatever.

[Seth]

It seems like he's trying to do the anti tourism thing more like, and get like the real authentic American experience.

[Sean Pendergast]

He does seems like he. It seems like the places he's going are kind of small town, usa.

[Seth]

It's. I, it's hard for me because I don't gamble and I don't get the appeal of it. So I just don't. I don't get. I understand, like, Vegas is a fun place to be. There's a lot of other gamble.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

But it's.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

I just, I'm not as blown away by Vegas as a lot of people.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. I, I'm, I'm, I'm more suggesting it just to be curious to take place

[Seth]

of things that are uniquely American.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, as opposed to. Well, someone's suggesting Mackinac island in Michigan, which is beautiful.

[Seth]

Have you ever been there?

[Sean Pendergast]

It's beautiful.

[Seth]

No, I've not.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's really nice. Yeah. And some of the pictures are gorgeous,

[Seth]

but it's in a Bob Seger song. So there you have it.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, the other amazing thing about Freddie is he gets like zero blowback in his reply. Like, I look, I looked at his replies. Like, he said this yesterday when, when Germany lost. All I can say is that we didn't deserve to go any further in the World cup. Another humiliation after 2018 and 2022. He kind of breaks down the game. He said, at no point did it look like we were going to score. He congratulates Paraguay at the end. And then I went and looked at the replies and I'm like, oh, this is where Freddy's gonna catch some now. Nope, nope. Just a lot of really nice things. Germany may have lost, but nobody in the world won more than Freddie. This World cup, the first reply that

[Seth]

you get, I think I got fake news down that Freddie shutting down his social media account. By the way, he'd be, yeah, somebody, somebody did an AI generated image of a tweet saying he was going to shut it down when he was done.

[Sean Pendergast]

I just don't think. I mean, like, I don't know what his history is before this in terms of tweeting.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

But you and I both know that if you just tweet some, you get a little trickle of cash from X every couple of weeks.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

And he's got. He's got seven. He's got, like, 800,000 followers now. It's based on, you know, dude, man.

[Seth]

Social media is the worst, though. It's like. Yeah, like, I totally understand. I don't. I. Like, for people that want to. There are a lot of people listening right now who have zero exposure to social media, and that's a smart decision.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

So, like, I totally get it and understand there. If it. Like, I do. I'm on it partly because of my job. Like, and I think if I weren't doing sports radio and if I didn't make money from it, like, as part of my living, there's no. I would be. Like, I'm not on Facebook at all. I have a Facebook account, but I'm hardly on it at all. Instagram every now and then. Yeah. But, yeah, it's just. Life is better without it for me. So I totally get it. If he's already got a life that he likes and enjoys, he's got enough. You know, he doesn't. He doesn't. Why does he need to grasp for more?

[Sean Pendergast]

Because that's the way you do it. If he loves America so much, then he should be American.

[Seth]

You should always. It should never be enough. You should always want more.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes. If you love America. Family, right. Mean replies gonna get in your head, Freddie. Yeah. So. Yeah. So I say, keep taking that bite out of the apple, Freddie. That's what I. And by the way, for those of you who's like, well, our. Our time with Freddie is over. No, it's not. He's gonna get to do a bunch of cool stuff for the. I. He'll. I guarantee you he'll be at the finals 100%. He will get tickets to the World cup finals. That's my prediction.

[Seth]

I haven't been as wrapped up in him as. As a lot of people have been. So I don't. I don't. Y. When he first started tweeting, you know, you said you don't know if he was. How active he was on social media.

[Sean Pendergast]

Right.

[Seth]

There is a way to figure that out, and it's to go back down through his social media feed.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

He's just been tweeting so aggressively since he got here.

[Website Creator/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Seth]

That you end up having to scroll forever. It's amazing. So if we go to. Okay, goodbye, Houston. My God. He's been active, I think. Okay, so you handicapping it. Do you think he does end up, like, staying up with this and like. Like, you're right for what he's been doing. And if he just stopped checking his mentions and all he did was post pictures, he could make a nice little stream of income, get a few hundred

[Sean Pendergast]

bucks a month minimum from. From X. That's. That's all I'm saying.

[Seth]

But I'm saying if this guy, like an electrical engineer back in Germany or something like, that's probably. He doesn't. You know, the other thing that's a pain in the butt about being an influencer is just documenting your life and everything.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Just like sometimes you just want to live life.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Yep.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep. The key of what you just said is don't look at his mentions. If he just tweets the same way he's been tweeting, he might pick up a few hundred bucks. That's all I'm saying. All right, let's circle back to the Astros. One of the more intriguing. Bottom of the ninth innings or. Yeah, bottom of the ninth innings of an Astros game this year in a game that they lost. I thought was very interesting how this whole thing played out. And it involved the challenge system. Again, a wrinkle in the challenge system that we had not seen yet with the Astros. That's coming up next.

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