Incredible Scheduled and Unscheduled Pugilism in Vegas

Summary

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Payne & Pendergast: "Incredible Scheduled and Unscheduled Pugilism in Vegas"

Airdate: July 13, 2026
Main Theme:
This episode revolves around two headline-grabbing brawls in Las Vegas—the highly anticipated (and underwhelming) sanctioned UFC bout featuring Conor McGregor’s return, and an unsanctioned, surprise punch thrown by NBA star Bam Adebayo at former teammate Tyler Herro during an AAU event. Seth Payne and Sean Pendergast break down both incidents, highlighting the drama, fallout, and what these moments say about athlete feuds, media narratives, and the nature of public embarrassment in sports.

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Main Discussion Segments & Key Insights

1. Conor McGregor's Brief UFC Comeback

Segment Start: [01:30]

• The Fight Recap:

  • Conor McGregor returns to the Octagon after five years, losing to Max Holloway via TKO at just 1:09 into the first round due to a knee injury.
  • Debate arises over whether McGregor entered the fight already hurt, with fans “sleuthing and zaprudering” his walkout and warmup footage for signs (01:30–02:36).
  • Both hosts dismiss the pre-injury theories, noting there’s little real evidence he was visibly injured before the fight started.

• Analysis of the TKO:

  • Max Holloway quickly capitalized on McGregor’s compromised mobility:

    “He got injured, and then Max Holloway just took advantage of it and was wailing. That was his opponent, and it’s wailing on him. And apparently, Max Holloway is telling the referee as he’s beating the snot out of Conor McGregor, like, 'Hey, do you want to stop this thing?'" (03:53)

  • Holloway’s post-fight audio (played around [05:04]) captures his awareness of McGregor’s situation:

    Max Holloway: “I was on the ref. 'Come on, bro, like, what, you want me to keep it? Like, this guy got his—he brought his kids to the fight. You know what I mean? Like, I ain’t trying to beat up a wounded dog.” ([05:08]–[05:36])

  • Sean jokes: “He brought his kids. The man’s got a family.” ([05:36])

• Comparisons & Memes:

  • Parallels to Aaron Rodgers' infamous four-snap Jets debut are drawn, poking fun at the ‘grand entrance, swift exit’ narrative and meme culture (“Conor McGregor running into UFC — Aaron Rodgers running out with his flag”; [06:07–06:20]).
  • They doubt claims from (Raiders’ DE) Maxx Crosby that McGregor wasn’t previously injured, suggesting most fighters would have masked it for the payday:

    “30 million is a lot of money. 30 million is way above the threshold for me that I would say yes to... to go out and get completely embarrassed like that.” ([06:46])

• Relatable Humiliation:

  • Seth remarks on the awkward ‘hop kick’ attempted by McGregor, saying it echoed amateurish daydreams:

    “You’re like, oh, in my mind, I’m just gonna take a hop step and go up and kick him in the face. But what in reality happens is you fall flat on your face and then you get your ass beat. Conor McGregor is—he is all of us.” ([07:43]–[07:54])

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2. Bam Adebayo Punches Tyler Herro at an AAU Tournament

Segment Start: [04:44], deep dive at [08:02]

• The Incident:

  • Heat center Bam Adebayo reportedly punches former teammate Tyler Herro in front of kids at a Vegas AAU event, after leaks show Herro DM’d negative things about Bam’s game and contract.
  • Seth quips he “supports Bam standing on business," but jokes it was poor judgment to do it “in front of the kids, the AAU team.” ([08:09])

• Behind the Beef:

  • The hosts explore why players like Herro (and previously, Kevin Durant) create trouble by privately criticizing teammates in DMs to strangers, which then get leaked.
  • Sean summarizes the article:

    “Following the trade of Hero to the Bucks for Giannis, a fan leaked a series of screenshots…In those alleged direct messages, Hero appeared to question Adebayo’s game and whether or not he was worthy of the contracts he had signed…” ([10:16–10:58])

• Athlete Sensitivities & Lessons:

  • “Pointing out that some guy may not be worth what he’s getting paid is a big, big point of contention with these guys.” ([11:00])
  • Parallels are drawn to old NFL gripes, like Brady’s texts about Peyton Manning, noting the escalation to physical fights is thankfully rare in other leagues.

• Name Origin & Pop Culture:

  • They riff on Bam’s intimidating nickname:

    “Just a big lesson. Just don’t mess with a guy named Bam. You know what I mean? Like, I’m guessing he’s got that—that’s not his given name. I’m guessing he was given the name Bam because of something physical.” ([11:45])

    • “He earned the nickname Bam Bam as a baby when he was watching the Flintstones and playfully flipped over a coffee table mimicking the character.” ([12:11])

• Takeaways on Messaging:

  • Both hosts emphasize that today’s social media makes DMs and private texts risky. Seth:

    “I don’t even text really nasty stuff about other people, even to my friends…Because I don’t need there to be a text record of any of this.” ([12:55–13:03])

    • “Especially don’t do it with random people on the Internet.” ([13:21])
    • “Texting has made me a slightly better person…If I’m going to criticize somebody… I try to be as polite as possible…if it ever does float back, I don’t want it to look like it’s mean or anything.” ([13:29])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On McGregor’s Injury and Holloway’s Dominance:

• Max Holloway: “This guy got his—he brought his kids to the fight…Like, I ain’t trying to beat up a wounded dog.” ([05:08])
• Sean: “He brought his kids. The man’s got a family.” ([05:36])

On Meme Culture & Athlete Embarrassment:

• Seth: “Aaron Rodgers running out with his flag…Four snaps for the Jets. Running out with the flag before his jets debut, and it was over before it started.” ([06:07–06:20])
• Seth: “30 million is a lot of money. 30 million is way above the threshold for me that I would say yes to... to go out and get completely embarrassed like that.” ([06:46])

On Fighting in Public vs. DMs:

• Sean: “Just don't mess with a guy named Bam...I’m guessing he was given the name Bam because of something physical.” ([11:45])
• Seth: “Especially don’t do it with random people on the Internet.” ([13:21])

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Segment Timestamps

• [01:30] – Breakdown of Conor McGregor’s UFC return and injury controversy
• [04:44] – Recap of unsanctioned Bam Adebayo vs. Tyler Herro ‘fight’
• [05:04] – Max Holloway post-fight quote
• [06:07] – Aaron Rodgers meme parallels and discussion
• [08:02] – Return to Bam Adebayo/Herro incident; analysis of DM culture
• [10:16] – Reading from The Athletic breakdown about leaked Herro DMs
• [12:11] – The origin of Bam Adebayo’s nickname
• [12:55] – Lessons on texting, criticism, and ‘screenshot culture’

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Tone & Style

The conversation is fast-paced, playful, and unfiltered. Sean and Seth riff off each other with humor and sharp, relatable observations—the tone echoes the banter of friends dissecting sports drama at a bar, but with the added insight of two seasoned media figures.

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Summary Takeaways

• McGregor’s short-lived UFC return is seen less as a dramatic athletic moment and more as an awkward, embarrassing payday—with jokes about memes, injuries, and “being all of us” when ambitions meet reality.
• The Bam Adebayo vs. Tyler Herro punch is less about on-court rivalry and more a cautionary tale on the dangers of private criticisms leaking in the social media age, leading to real-world consequences.
• Both stories are used as jumping-off points for wider themes: the pressure and scrutiny high-profile athletes face, and the perils of modern communication ("screenshot culture") for public figures and regular people alike.

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Transcript

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[Sports Commentator 1]

All right. Pugilism in Vegas over the weekend. Sanctioned and unsanctioned the sanctioned the sanctioned was Conor McGregor getting TKO a minute nine into his fight with Max Holloway. Conor McGregor's return to the Octagon after after a five year absence ends in a little over a minute when he injures his knee. Now there's some conjecture out there as to whether he was damaged goods walking into the Octagon. A lot of sleuthing and zaprudering going on with his walk to the ring and taking off his shoes and whatnot.

[Sports Commentator 2]

There was footage of him warming up where he looked just fine. I think the people that thought that he either injured his knee or showed that his knee was injured right beforehand when he was taking his shoes off. I can't get into that just because I don't like if there hadn't been the injury afterwards. If I just watched that in isolation, there's no part of me that would have thought like, oh yeah, look, clearly his leg is injured.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Saying, did any medical doctors weigh in on that no, there was him taking

[Sports Commentator 1]

his shoes off and him stumbling a little bit is the closest I saw to anybody finding some sort of evidence.

[Sports Commentator 2]

But even that part is like, yeah, he stumbled a little bit. We regained his balance, and you didn't put his right foot down because the shoe was still there. Yeah, I didn't think anything of that.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah, same, same. So. So, yeah, it was. So that was Conor McGregor, and that was the sanctioned. The funny thing about the weekend was the fact that Bam Adebayo, also in Vegas at the summer league, went over and walloped Tyler Hero when the two were having a conversation, presumably about some things that Tyler Hero DM to somebody and wound up getting outed over talking about Bam out of bayou. Know, maybe Bam's not that good. Maybe he's not worth his contract. Bam out of bio. Solution to that was to walk over to Tyler Herro and wallop him in front of Tyler Heroes AAU team at. At some AAU tournament going on in Vegas. So the funny meme. And we'll. We'll circle Back to Conor McGregor here in a second because there's some fun audio that comes with that. But the. The. The funny meme or the funny Internet theme that was rolling around yesterday, Seth, was punches landed in Vegas. Bam out of bio one, Conor McGregor zero. Was it that bad? Yeah, it was a minute nine. That was the beauty part of it. I'm not a huge UFC guy, so I didn't see the fight live. I actually. Amy and I were flying home, I think maybe when it was going live, I can't remember, but we didn't see it live. But we saw the reaction to it the next day, and. And I. I'm like, okay, I only saw the reaction. I thought he got his ass kicked or something like that. You know, it turned out he was injured, and they said a minute nine. I'm like, okay, well, I can go rewatch this whole fight. Yeah, a minute nine, which I did. And so, yeah, it was. It was. It was a tough watch. He got injured, and then Max Holloway just took advantage of it and was wailing. That was his opponent, and it's wailing on him. And apparently Max Holloway is telling the referee as he's beating the snot out of Conor McGregor, like, hey, do you want to stop this thing?

[Sports Commentator 2]

Yeah, it's clear that he can. It looked like that one portion of it where this is the first time I'm watching it in its entirety that I've. That I watched, like, little clips of it.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

So the one minute that it Takes to watch it when he was on his back and it. And it looked like. Like a. Like a toddler might kick at his mother or something, and he doesn't want to have his diaper change. It was like. It was a sad look. The sad state of affairs.

[Sports Commentator 1]

This was Holloway after the match, saying, I was telling the referee to stop the fight.

[Max Holloway]

I told the ref, stop the fight. He does. He doesn't want to fight. I was like, bro, his demeanor is right. And he. Then he said, fight the first time. So I was like, okay, stand up. So I backed up. He stand up. And then he tried to do this hop step where he hopped forward, hopped back, and then he did it again. And then when he went back, he just kind of grabbed his. Grabbed his leg, you know, and he screamed. He. Ah. And I was on the rift. Come on, bro. Like, what, you want me to keep it? Like, this guy got his. He brang his kids to. To the fight. You know what I mean? Like, I ain't trying to beat up a wounded dog.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah, he brought his kids. The man's got a family.

[Sports Commentator 2]

If his family wasn't there.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah, I would have. I just kept going.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Well, the way. Yeah, so I would. I would have. I would. Started crying, but I wouldn't have stopped punching him, but these kids were there.

[Sports Commentator 1]

The funny thing is the memes that have come out of this, like, Aaron Rodgers running out with the American flag moments before his season ended. Four snaps in. You know, Conor McGregor running into UFC. Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Aaron Rodgers running out with his flag.

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[Sports Commentator 2]

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[Sports Commentator 1]

If that.

[Sports Commentator 2]

For anybody who doesn't know the backstory, they must be so confused. No, those were the four snaps he played. That was right before he played four snaps for the Jets.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Running out with the flag before his jets debut, and it was over before it started.

[Sports Commentator 2]

So supposedly, Max. Max Crosby said that he. He knew for a fact that Conor McGregor wasn't injured beforehand.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Oh, he's not. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

That's on his sources.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Well, and obviously, the. You know, the whole thing is the payday, you know, like.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Right.

[Sports Commentator 1]

He just wants to get in the ring so he can get his $30 million or whatever.

[Sports Commentator 2]

If you're just. Yeah. Like, you know, who knows. Who knows what you might shoot yourself up with to appear like you're not injured and can warm up and everything, just to be sure you get out there.

[Sports Commentator 1]

That's true. That is true. The interesting thing to me is, like, okay, he. Conor McGregor, got embarrassed out there, right? Like, it was. It was complete embarrassment. Now he can blame it on an injury. So maybe that's. That factors in. 30 million is a lot of money. 30 million is way above the threshold for me that I would say yes to. You know, to go out and get completely embarrassed like that. I just wonder what the number it was for Con, like, if it was. If this was a $5 million payday, would he have been like, no, my knee. It's. Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

The funniest thing though, too is because, like, he's doing that hop step kick. Yeah. Which is like exactly what, what, what you envision. It looks exactly the way it happens when people who envision doing that despite not actually being good MMA fighters.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Try something like that.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yes.

[Sports Commentator 2]

You're like, oh, in my mind, I'm just gonna take a hop step and go up and kick him in the face. But what in reality happens is you fall flat on your face and then you get your ass beat.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Oh, my God.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Conor McGregor is. He is all of us.

[Max Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Except for the off outside the octagon. Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 1]

There's some stuff. There's some stuff. What did you think of Bam Adebayou walking over and punching his former teammate in the mouth at an AAU tournament?

[Sports Commentator 2]

I support him standing on business. I don't know. I don't know what Tyler Harrow said or texted or whatever. I would say just, you know, maybe wait and not do it in front of the kids, the AAU team.

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[Sports Commentator 1]

my biggest thing I come away with on something like this is like, why, if you're Tyler Herro.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Or if you're Kevin Durant for that matter, why on earth are you DMing with randos with just random people, like, opinion, like your opinions on teammates or former teammates or friends or whatever it may.

[Sports Commentator 2]

So what happens? So, Tyler. Hi. Tyler Harrow is DMing people about. Bam. Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

So, like, Rand. Like, not his. They were just people kind of like a. Like a Kevin Durant type of situation where he's interacting with all these people he knows from online.

[Sports Commentator 1]

I'll read. This is the paragraph in the. In the athletic art. It's one paragraph at the very end, and I'm surprised. Like, the article about this punch. It gets like, two sentences at the end of the article. I'm like, I need a little more. But this is what the article had. Following the trade of Hero to the Bucks for Giannis, a fan leaked a series of screenshots of direct messages that appeared to come from an Instagram account connected to Hiro. In those alleged direct messages, Hiro appeared to question Adebayo's game and whether or not he was worthy of. Of the contracts he had signed with the Heat.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Yeah, that's.

[Sports Commentator 1]

That's a pretty big slap. What I've learned is that. Is it pointing out that some guy may not be worth what he's getting paid is a big, big point of contention with these guys.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Well, you know what the. You know what this reminds me of is back when Brady got deposed in the Deflate Gate scenario. Remember one of his texts was to one of his buddies.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

About how. Look, the. The debate about me versus Peyton is over.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

That is like. That's the ancient history or whatever. And why didn't Peyton Manning go punch Tom Brady? I like why. Yeah, like, if you're gonna. If you're gonna. No, I think he's a coward. I think he's yellow.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Oh, he should have be Tom Brady.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Tom Brady should have, you know, go defend your honor, Peyton Manning.

[Sports Commentator 1]

This is the other thing, too. Just a big lesson. Just don't mess with a guy named Bam. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, I'm guessing he's got that. I'm guessing that's not his given name. I'm guessing he was given the name Bam because of something physical. So that would be the other lesson in all this. My favorite thing about the Brady. You bring up the Brady thing was when he destroyed his phone as if they couldn't go get the text messages from the cloud or somewhere else, you know?

[Sports Commentator 2]

Yeah. He was hammer to his phone. Bam Adebayo. According to the AI overview, which is about 50 50. He earned the nickname Bam Bam as a baby when he was watching the Flintstones and playfully flipped over a coffee table mimicking the character furniture over as an infant.

[Sports Commentator 1]

You know, you don't mess with that guy.

[Sports Commentator 2]

It was. It turns out it was a 300 pound coffee.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Right.

[Sports Commentator 2]

It was over at the age of three.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Flipped over a marble coffee table. There's really just a big rectangular slab of marble in the middle of the room. Yeah, you just don't mess with a guy named Bam. All right, so, yeah, so the sanctioned. I would say if I. If we didn't get to watch the Bam out of bio versus Tyler Hero. That sounds more compelling than the minute nine I watched of Conor McGregor getting his ass kicked.

[Sports Commentator 2]

That's it, man. I just, I'm so careful. I don't even text. I don't text really nasty stuff about other people, even to my friends and relatives.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

Because I don't like, for one, try not to say nasty things about nasty appeal about people, whatever. But two, I like, I don't need there to be a text record of any of this. Yeah, this is the kind of stuff that gets screen grabbed and sent around and everything, man. So you especially don't do it with random people on the Internet?

[Sports Commentator 1]

No, no, that's. That's always my biggest takeaway. Why are you texting? Why are you dming like private things to random people?

[Sports Commentator 2]

I do think that texting has made me a slightly better person in some regards though. I do, I think, I think more about if I'm going to criticize somebody and like, let's say I have to do it for some reason. Like, it's a fair criticism. I. And I'm texting it. I try to be as polite as possible about it, even if that person's. I might be talking about a third party, you know, But I'm kind of like, well, look, we're not getting this out of it and everything. Like, I don't because if it ever to float back to the person, I don't want it to look like it's mean or anything, but I feel like that's kind of filtered back over into the way I conduct myself in non tech situations. I think I'm a little bit more careful about delivering a criticism or what have you.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Yeah, you need to lose that. It was more fun when you were unhinged.

[Sports Commentator 2]

That's a classic. Well, I try to operate more like, okay, am I willing to say this to that person's face? Would I and everything and operate by that dynamic.

[Max Holloway]

Yeah.

[Sports Commentator 2]

And the Internet tends to be a horrible place for operating.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Fair. Yeah, fair. All right. Going into the 8 o' clock hour here. Okay. Speaking of memes on the Internet, this new TikTok trend now has a Texans the new TikTok trend where people are, quote, preparing to discuss a fictional Netflix documentary. I think this would actually be a really good real documentary. Right. We'll tell you who.

[Sports Commentator 2]

There's one big obstacle to it. Okay.

[Sports Commentator 1]

Okay. One big obstacle to my real documentary that I want that's coming up next.

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