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Sports Analyst 1
All right, NFL coach hot seat rankings. This CBSSports.com has their top five. And we'll we'll take this into a Houston realm before the end of this segment. Jordan Dejani is one of their NFL writers. What's interesting to me about this list, Seth, of the five hottest seats in the NFL is how many of these guys were among the toast of the league not all that long ago. Like how quickly you can go from being someone who's being heralded as, you know, the God's gift to coaching to being on Jordan Dejani's hot seat list.
Sports Analyst 2
Well, yeah. Well, remember how bad it was for if you won coach of the year? There was a stretch there. It was like within two years, like every coach of the year was getting fired.
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Sports Analyst 1
And it's probably, I mean, Stefanski was coach of the year a couple times.
Sports Analyst 2
Twice.
Sports Analyst 1
Twice. And, and fairly recently, d' Amico's first year, he was coach of the year. He got fired.
Sports Analyst 2
Thank God d' Ameco didn't win it.
Sports Analyst 1
Yeah, right.
Sports Analyst 2
He really would have turned south, lost by one vote.
Sports Analyst 1
The five names on the list here.
Sports Analyst 2
No. Yeah. No. I guess Daval was the coach of the year in 2022.
Sports Analyst 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sports Analyst 2
Rabel was the coach of the year in 2021. Telling you he got fired and then he went on to become coach of the year again in 2025. Yeah.
Sports Analyst 1
And I and I've already taken the under on Patriot wins. I feel even better when you bring up that little factoid right there. The five names are very interesting here from that perspective. Counting down the five hottest seats in the NFL, Dan Quinn, Washington Commanders, Zach Taylor, Cincinnati Bengals is four. Three. On the hot seat list is Shane Steichen of the Colts in the Texans division. Number two is Todd Bowles with the Buccaneers. Number one, Aaron Glenn with the jets. Who. He's the one. He's the one name on this list that I think is one. I think it's accurate. Two. He's not fitting the same mold I was talking about where if you think, like Dan Quinn was in the NFC title game a year ago.
Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 1
Zach Taylor's been to a Super Bowl. Now, granted, since that super bowl, it's not been great for the Bengals, but he's been to a Super bowl this decade. Shane Steichen, halfway through last season, was the toast of the league because of what they were doing offensively in Indianapolis with Daniel Jones.
Sports Analyst 2
Right.
Sports Analyst 1
And they were breaking records.
Sports Analyst 2
Shane Steichen is still. He is in this mode where the GM has just gotten by and gotten away with not winning playoff games for how long now?
Sports Analyst 1
Since 2018.
Sports Analyst 2
Since 2018 against the Texans. And like, you'd think at some point maybe the coach will capture break instead of the gm, but Shane Steichen doesn't have a real quarterback to work with. He was doing the impressive stuff last year with Daniel Jones and he's. But now he's got Daniel Jones coming up. Achilles tendon chair.
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Sports Analyst 2
It's just a horrible, horrible situation to watch unravel there.
Sports Analyst 1
It's really too bad you're bad about it. The gravitas and your voice reflects my feelings on that as well. I just feel terrible about the whole.
Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 1
Number two, Todd Bowles, who has been. I. I don't feel like his seat's been real hot in Tampa Bay. I think Tampa Bay has benefited from being in a bad division the last few years.
Sports Analyst 2
Yeah, but he's.
Sports Analyst 1
Until last year, he was, you know, he. They were like 7 and 2 at one point. He's almost a little like the defensive version of Shane Steichen. Like midway through last season, the Bucks, Baker Mayfield was an MVP candidate and the Bucks were. The Bucks were one of the hottest teams in the league, and then they just collapsed.
Sports Analyst 2
Well, yeah. And I feel like Todd Bowles has been one of those things where it just. It felt like an awkward hire when they first did it, but he's almost. He very easily could have become just a sacrificial holding, you know, placeholder coach or something. But I think he's out. Like, he's out. He's proven that he's a better coach than that in this. In this instance. Yep. And that like I felt like he's. He's fought tooth and nail to keep his job. Like he's earned. He's earned a little bit of job stability given some of the other issues they've had in Tampa.
Sports Analyst 1
Yep. Aaron Glenn, number one on the list. Not a surprise. I said within the last 30 minutes we were talking about team. We were talking about teams that could go from worse to first. I just think Aaron Glenn's got no shot. And it's not even about Aaron Glenn. I just think that that organization, it's a bad organization. For one thing. They have made the playoffs through several coaches not named Aaron Glenn. I mean, it's been since Mark Sanchez and Rex Ryan that they've even been in the postseason. And they're somehow looking at Geno Smith as some sort of solution when he was the opposite of that on a bad team in Las Vegas last year.
Sports Analyst 2
I think. Yeah. There. And the hard part this year is going to end up being like in that environment with that owner whose kids apparently will criticize players to their faces after games. All this, like, with all of the dysfunction that there is with the jets can. Is Aaron Glenn able to just at least maintain the. Maintain the clubhouse, so to speak? You know, like maintain the lot. You'd say maintain the clubhouse in baseball, but it just, it feels like that kind of a situation where if you just kind of let things unravel and it's. It might be impossible for him to contain with the amount of. In controversy that that organization invites.
Sports Analyst 1
Are they.
Sports Analyst 2
If they're not winning games.
Sports Analyst 1
You're right. Because not every, not every, you know, 4 and 13 team is created equal. If they're like, if, like to me, the best case scenario. The best case scenario for Aaron Glenn is that they're like a five or six win team that's competing really hard in December.
Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 1
You know that you watch them, you go, okay, that's a team that's just not very talented, that's responding to its coach.
Sports Analyst 2
That's where you get the benefit of the doubt. If. Because you can look at it on paper and say, all right, they're headed towards another disaster. If you become a plucky team that's fighting and yeah, guys aren't letting go of the rope in December and everything that's where regardless of what the record is, he might they might give Aaron Glenn the benefit of the doubt in that instance. It's just, man, the jets like people talk about New York media. I it's jets media specifically that they just, I think they they're in the business almost of being tabloid writers now more than anything because they haven't covered good football in such a long time that it's it's really tough for any coach to keep a lid on all of the ridiculous controversy there is at any time.
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Sports Analyst 1
So I tend to agree with this list. I think d' Ameco Ryan's on a hot seat list would be in the bottom five in the NFL right now. If I had to guess. I think d' Ameco is as safe as it gets. Who's got the hottest seat in Houston right now And I'll I'll expand this to GMs also of the GMs and head coach slash managers in town. Who's got the hottest seat among among for the Texans, it would be Demiko Ryan's and Nick Casario.
Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 1
For the Rockets, obviously, Emo Doka and Rafael Stone. And then the Astros, two guys who are in the last year of their contracts, which may almost by definition make their seats the hottest ones.
Sports Analyst 2
Joe spotted.
Sports Analyst 1
And Dana Brown.
Sports Analyst 2
I know there's a certain portion of Texans fans that feel like Casario should be on the hot seat more than he is. Regardless of how you feel about that, I would say my read on it is that he's not on the hot seat at all.
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Sports Analyst 2
Like, so even if you. Even if you feel like he should be, like, I understand that. I understand your arguments for that. I just. I don't feel like he is. So I think with Raphael Stone and Udoka, and then with Espada and Dana Brown, I think it's more of a question of, okay, in those. Like which. Which of those guys, the GM or the coach, is more on the hot seat?
Sports Analyst 1
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 2
With what? With what? So would you say. Would you say Dana Brown or Joe Espada is more on the hops?
Sports Analyst 1
I would say Dana. Well, okay, I. Joe Espada is in more imminent danger. Just be in terms of timing, just because it's more common to fire a manager in season than a gm. So I think he may be in more imminent danger. And yet, if you were to ask me the likelihood of Joe Espada or Dana Brown getting fired, period, at some point, I would say Dana Brown's chances are higher than Joe Espada. Like, I think there's a better chance Joe Espada is back next season for the Astros than Dana Brown is back
Sports Analyst 2
next, I think, okay, if Dana Brown. And let's make this like a movie scene. Dana Brown and Joe Espada get called up to by Jim Crane to the death pit. Yep. And they have to argue for their lives. And Jim Crane's going to boot, like, gladiator style, boot one of them into the death. I think that Espada could make the case that, hey, look. Look at the injuries we've had. Look at the churn we've had on the roster and some of the things we've had to deal with. And yet we fought our way back into being either being a threat, at least these last three, let's say three seasons at the end of this year.
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Sports Analyst 2
Whereas with Dana Brown, I think it gets tougher because his argument has to be, well, I know you wanted me to restock the farm system, but it's kind of hard to do Jim Crane when you're making me make all these trades all the time. That he has to blame the Executioner for why he hasn't been able to restock the farm system as well as he does.
Sports Analyst 1
Yeah, I actually, it's funny, I had a text conversation. It turned into an email back and forth with Jimmy, who's Astro's future. And I asked because I asked him that question because I was trying to assess Dana Brown like the job that he's done. Because you can look at some of the little moves along the margin that Dana's made have been good ones. He's made some good moves in the
Sports Analyst 2
Cam Smith trade I think is still. That's a slam dunk of a trade.
Sports Analyst 1
I agree. And especially the more 440 foot home runs Cam Smith hits. I feel better and better about that one. I don't think it's been all bad with Dana Brown. I think the problem with Dana Brown is the glaring things they needed coming into this season. He's just failed at getting those things. Even with the injuries, the pitchers that he signed this off season. Now he was not shopping in the greatest of bins for those pitchers. But the ERA has been really bad among the five or six guys. He's picked up a couple of Marnie. Even with the, with the organization anymore. The outfield is the glaring thing. And Chandler Rome had a big article about that last week. And even with this little bump they've been getting from. From Taylor Trammel lately and Cam Smith lately, it's still an outfield that's sub 700 in terms of OPS. Those are some really glaring things. I like, I think if I'm Joe Espada, I don't know this would be my tactic. But I think you can point over at Dana in the death pit debate. You're talking about go.
Sports Analyst 2
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 1
Look what this guy's given me to work with the last couple, Right?
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Sports Analyst 2
Well, if you're in a death pit situation. Yeah.
Sports Analyst 1
You got to do it.
Sports Analyst 2
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Sports Analyst 1
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 2
You start bringing up the age of your kids. I like this. You do everything. Yeah. Okay. Death pit situation with the Rockets. This is the one where okay. Throw all, throw all of your, your, your highfalutin analysis out the window. Yeah. I feel if I've got, I've got Udoka and I've got Raphael Stone standing next to the death pit.
Sports Analyst 1
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 2
I think Udoka wins by sheer alpha male energy.
Sports Analyst 1
He wins on Claire alone.
Sports Analyst 2
I feel like a little bit of like for tea to almost be like, I don't know what this guy might could do if I try to kick him into the deathbed.
Sports Analyst 1
You're walking into the meeting with your iPad and you got all these reasons for each guy and you get in and both guys walk in and you just look at IME Odoki like oh my God, that scowl.
Sports Analyst 2
You're fired.
Sports Analyst 1
You're fired. There was easy push him into the pit and then you go yeah.
Sports Analyst 2
I mean but I do think. I think Udoka and Raphael Stone. I think I side with the manager on or the coach obviously.
Sports Analyst 1
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 2
And in having the the easier to palette excuse or explanation.
Sports Analyst 1
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 2
Where the GMs don't. I don't think that either of those GMs have have as clear a path to explaining themselves.
Sports Analyst 1
Yeah. I just feel like IME Udoka is is way more safe than rocket than some Rocket fans would want him to be right now. And I do think this season maybe exposed a few warts with email. Doka. I don't think they're fireable warts necessarily. But you've brought this up many times like no bring somebody in who knows how to coach an offense. You know do if he just brings
Sports Analyst 2
in an offensive coordinator. Right. Yeah that it's like the same. You know, just like you know Dan Tony understood that he needed biz delic there to be a defensive coordinator. That there is a part of being a head coach that sometimes like okay. Understand where your weaknesses as a staff.
Sports Analyst 1
Yeah.
Sports Analyst 2
Don't think about it as yourself but like okay on our staff how do we need to restructure this to where okay, what you needed last year given the hand you were dealt or you didn't have an actual point guard is that man to to really make that work. Whether you got Kevin Durant on your roster or not, it's going to take some elegant solutions and that's just not Udoka's forte. On the offensive side side of the ball.
Sports Analyst 1
It feels formulaic to have the list this way. But I think if we're ranking the teams in terms of collective hot seats of management and general manager, it's. It goes by record. You know what I mean? Like The Texas were 12 and 5. They have the least hot seats. The Rockets were a 52 win team. Their seats are the next hottest. And then the team that's sub 500 right now, those seats are the hottest. And in each case I think the head coach or manager is on the cooler seat than the gm. You know, I think the GM is on a hotter seat in all three of those situations. I painted pendergast with you. All right. LeBron James will not be returning to the Lakers. Why is he? What is he looking for? And speaking of GMs, should the Rockets be placing a phone call to LeBron James based on what Shams Sharanya said yesterday? We will have that for you coming up next.
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NFL Coach Hot Seats + Who's Got the Hottest Seat in Houston?
In this episode, Seth Payne and Sean Pendergast break down the latest hot seat rankings for NFL coaches, draw parallels to Houston’s front offices and coaching staff, and dive deep into which local sports figures are most likely to be shown the door next. With their trademark blend of sharp analysis and relatable banter, they deliver strong opinions on the state of the Texans, Astros, and Rockets’ leadership—both in the dugout and the front office.
[01:15–07:24]
(List info via CBS Sports, as referenced.)
"Not every, you know, 4 and 13 team is created equal… the best case scenario for Aaron Glenn is that they're like a five or six win team that's competing really hard in December."
— Sports Analyst 1 (06:23)
[08:54–15:11]
The episode is energetic, candid, and layered with humor (especially in the “death pit” analogies), but never shies from pointed analysis and criticism. Seth and Sean emphasize the relentless churn and expectations placed on coaches and GMs, both nationally and in Houston. Across teams, they argue managers face imminent, situational danger, but it’s GMs whose tenure is truly fragile—especially if there’s a tough owner demanding results fast.
Summary Takeaway:
In today’s NFL and Houston sports scene, job security is an illusion—recent success means little, and headlines can shift quickly. Among Houston sports management, the real hot seats are warming GMs’ chairs far more than the coaches’.