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Tobin Heath
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Host 1
Pendergast. I painted Pendergast. Good question. On the text pages. We're about to get petty. This is a good lead in. This is a good petty palette cleanser, I guess.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Appetizer. It's an appetizer. Is the Astro Circle of Trust bit with you guys over, or do you just not trust any of them anymore?
Host 2
It wasn't a bit.
Host 1
No. We've been doing it for years.
Host 2
As far as our core religion, it was. We had.
Host 1
We had. When was the last one? When was the last one we did? Yeah, the last one we did was on April 3rd, so we've done one all season long.
Host 2
Who is in it?
Host 1
There were five people in it.
Host 2
Okay.
Host 1
And keep in mind, they got off to a rough start.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Altuve. Jordan.
Host 2
He'd be in it.
Host 1
Jordan would be in it. Correa. I forgot he's even on the team. Yeah. Carlos Correa.
Host 2
Well, you know what? We forgot he's on the team. Even as he's potentially coming back.
Host 1
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hunter Brown.
Host 2
No, he wouldn't be in it right now.
Host 1
Not right now. And then he. Isaac Paredes.
Host 2
Who.
Host 1
He's. He's kind of cooled off a little bit, too. It might just be. Might just be Jordan.
Host 2
We. We lowered the standards for Circle of Trust for a while. Or we widened the circumference.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
We gave it a permeable membrane.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
And it was Jordan. Jordan and Hater right now. Jordan and Hater. Like, we. Like, like. So it's like a. It's a. It's a simple Atomic. It's just an electron and a neutron. Yeah,
Host 1
that's what they are, man. Yeah. So there you go, listener. Not a bit. It's something that we do when we feel like doing it.
Host 2
We're petty about there being no circle of trust.
Host 1
There you go. Yeah.
Host 2
We don't have enough points to plot to make a circle.
Host 1
That's exactly right.
Host 2
That's exactly right. A line segment.
Host 1
All right. Hall of Fame weekend was this past weekend in the. For pro football. Pro Football hall of Fame. And if you recall, this is Adam Vinatieri taking a jab at Bill Belichick.
Guest or Additional Commentator
I would repeat those last few statements about coach Bill Belichick as well. Thank you for demanding excellence every single day. Your preparation, discipline, and attention to detail shaped far more than my football career. Unfortunately, Bill couldn't make it here today. There's a lot going on at UNC right now. He may be on a recruiting trip right now looking for the next Lawrence Taylor. I thought it was because. Because training camp had already started, but in truth, it's because he's judging his girlfriend's cheerleading competition.
Host 2
It was a couple of good lines. He was just so bad at the delivery.
Host 1
Yes. Delivery sucks.
Host 2
How do you above in a terri.
Host 1
No, Well, I. Vinitari, clearly is being a little bit petty about Belichick.
Host 2
He couldn't be here. He's got a lot going on at unc.
Host 1
Yes, you and I can be petty about his delivery.
Host 2
The great thing about that is that people. If people were unaware of Bill Belichick's girlfriend still being involved in adult cheerleading competitions. That sounds even worse than the age gap is.
Host 1
Oh, yeah.
Host 2
It's like.
Host 1
Like the dir.
Host 2
You hear that and you don't know anything about the story. That sounds creepy as hell.
Host 1
He's. He's dating a 15 year old or something. All right, so. So that was venatori. The reason I repurposed this, though, in part was because of the. The. The jab. But Nick Costas, who does. He does some gambling. He's been on with us before, I want to say. Got very distinctive voice.
Host 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host 1
Very New York New Jers. And his voice is very pitchy. He's got a very high voice. He is. He is upset with Adam Vinatieri disrespecting Bill Belichick.
Guest or Additional Commentator 2
Someone who appreciates and knows and understands and respects the history of the game. State to claim to be the greatest ever. And everyone's gonna go make their jokes in that fabled place. Just run this guy. Well, it's okay. He's the greatest coach ever, but I'm gonna take my shots at him. Can. Can there be some respect? Can there be a modicum of respect shown for this man and what he accomplished? Or is it just we're just going to mock this guy forever? Come on. Open mic night at the hall of Fame. Adam. Yo, Adam. Maybe his whole life he's wanted to do stand up comedy. He's like, this is my. This is my moment. Now I'm going to get all my jokes off. Stop it.
Host 2
I stand with Nick. You do? Yes. I disrespect.
Host 1
You will not stand for the disrespect of Bill Belichick.
Host 2
That's right. That's right. I do. It does. It feels like too many things have turned into people trying to make it a roast. There's a. And look, hall of Fame places are great for, like, kind of gentle roasting or whatever. Like, I think Bill Belichick is weird as hell for whatever the hell he's letting his girlfriend do with the football program and his life. And yet, at the same time, I do agree with Nick Costos. Like, all right, yeah, but he's an old man. He's got to be, like, 80 now, isn't he? Like, he's just.
Host 1
He's like 75.
Host 2
I want to say.
Host 1
He's an old man.
Host 2
They're here at the hall of Fame, an institution which snubbed him.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
This year, like, that's the extra part of it is that Belichick got snubbed in the hall of Fame voting this year and kind of just tell some tired jokes about. About him and his girlfriend. Yeah. I stand with Costos.
Host 1
Yes.
Host 2
Costos also did a video there yesterday making the argument that the jets could make the playoffs this year.
Host 1
So.
Host 2
Yeah. Yeah.
Host 1
Oh, then that's a. What did Johnny say? Sizzle, sizzle, fire.
Host 2
Five sizzle fires.
Host 1
Five sizzle fires for that one. All right, next one. This is. This is Vic Fangio. He had a great reference to Quinon Mitchell, one of the really good young corners. Him and Cooper De Jean are two really good young corners that were drafted within a few picks of each other a few years ago. I think in that. Lassiter Kamari, last same draft as Kamari Lassiter. This is Vic Fangio saying, Quinya Mitchell still a regular season interception virgin. He still needs his first interception, you
Guest or Additional Commentator
know, of his career.
Host 2
He'll quickly remind you he's got four
Host 1
in the playoffs, but he's still a
Guest or Additional Commentator
virgin in the regular season.
Host 2
So Fangio, a little funny, though, but having one in the postseason. Four in the postseason already. That's almost like somebody who's starred in adult films but has never found true love. Can't settle down. Hasn't really had a spot. Special moment where they feel like they connected.
Host 1
Oh, my God. Yeah. Vic Fangio dropping the old V bomb right there.
Host 2
The old football coaches used to use the term virgin metaphorically a lot more like that. You know, like, look, look, I'm no virgin. I've been fired. I used to hear that from coaches. You think, I'm afraid to get fired. I'm no virgin. Like, oh, I didn't know that those were even things that you would compare.
Host 1
Yeah, definitely. It definitely feels like that's probably. Probably skews towards maybe a little politically incorrect these days.
Host 2
Probably.
Host 1
Did I tell you? I told you this? I. I watched. I gotta watch it a little more intently and put some notes together. There was a video that got curated to me on YouTube that was ads from the 70s that didn't age well.
Host 2
Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't watch it.
Narrator
Yeah, yeah.
Host 1
It's like nine minutes long. It's okay. I gotta rewatch it and come up with some thoughts on this thing. Because I'm watching this, I'm like, yeah, that wouldn't fly. That wouldn't fly. It was amazing how many of us Caucasians thought it'd be really funny to dress up and talk like Native Americans.
Host 2
It was funny. Whereas a serious dramatic actor exercise. Yeah, it was.
Host 1
The ones I watched thought they were being funny.
Host 2
Like, no, when you go back and watch old stuff, I'd say, like, it felt like 95 of Native Americans were white dudes. Yeah, you're right, though. And doing this. Doing the speeches. The thing is, they would do a stereotypical version of the speech.
Host 1
Like, bad syntax.
Host 2
Yeah, yeah. Somebody's actually, like, you know, doing a good job of it or something. But, like, there was a part of just. Just playing the stereotype.
Host 1
It was nine minutes long. So if I'm just doing the math, that means they're probably maybe like 25 commercials, something like that. And at least like four or five of them were what involved white people dressed up as Native Americans.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Talking like Native Americans to pitch cars to people.
Host 2
Oh, for cars.
Host 1
Yeah.
Susie Welch
Sorry.
Host 2
I was thinking of old TV shows. Yeah.
Host 1
These are like the owner of a car dealership.
Host 2
Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Doing it real broken English and everything. Trying to get you to buy.
Host 1
To buy a Ford F150. Yeah.
Host 2
I'm sitting here thinking, like, a lot
Host 1
of Indians drove trucks back in the day.
Host 2
I'm thinking here I was having a. Like, a debate on NPR about, like, hey, let's not worry too much about, like, what. Yeah.
Host 1
Oh, no, these are commercials.
Host 2
Like.
Host 1
Like local commercials. So the production value is insanely bad.
Host 2
Yeah, gotcha.
Host 1
So that's. That's what that.
Host 2
I'm gonna watch this after the show.
Host 1
It's. It's really. It's. It's pretty funny. A lot of ads for cigarettes.
Guest or Additional Commentator
So.
Host 2
Wait, what are. So Fangio wasn't being petty there, though, necessarily.
Host 1
Yeah, no. I don't know. Maybe that's Quinton. Yeah, he's just a little petty. Quinn's felt like. It felt like this is a good place to park that cut. It has nothing to do with the Texans. All right, this one is a tweet that I'm going to read from Irvin Magic Johnson, who, as we know on Twitter, can be a somewhat dicey proposition with his obvious observations and weird things he gets effusive about on there. Irvin Magic Johnson tweets is after the opening night schedule came out yesterday. Seth. Yeah, the. Where the Knicks and the Sixers are going to be playing each other. So LeBron versus the Knicks on opening night. Magic Johnson. Wow. Basketball fans all over the world should give Adam Silver a standing ovation for scheduling the Knicks and the Sixers game on opening night. Praying hands, emoji. Clapping emoji. It was already gonna be a special night because the Knicks are receiving their championship rings. But now LeBron James, Jalen Brown, Joel Embiid, blah, blah, blah, will all be playing must see tv. This is my message to Magic and also I would say to ESPN at large, aside from Knicks fans, nobody cares about the Knicks getting their championship rings. Nobody. Knicks fans care. The Knicks themselves care, and that's fine. Those people should care. But Magic Johnson acting like they did
Host 2
this with the Warriors TV part is
Host 1
the must see TV of some team that's not my team getting their rings. Screw that.
Host 2
No, we don't care.
Host 1
No. Yeah, I'm petty about this. I'm petty about Magic Johnson sucking on Twitter. Yeah. Which he's sucked for years on Twitter, but this is extremely bad.
Host 2
You know what? I kind of appreciate sometimes that Magic Johnson just kind of lays it out, like, as if you had. If you hadn't followed the NBA at all.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
Like, he pointed out that they, you know, that. That they want a championship and everything. That's good.
Host 1
You're not being petty enough right now.
Host 2
I can't get petty. Where did that light come?
Host 1
Oh, they took the light Got turned on in here.
Host 2
There's no more.
Host 1
There's no more. There's. There's no more curtain on this window right here.
Host 2
All right.
Host 1
This window was covered.
Host 2
I didn't realize. FM Chann handled that for us. Okay.
Guest or Additional Commentator 2
Yeah.
Host 1
Fm you get rid of all your curtains in here.
Host 2
Dad, I thought I was just getting sucked up to heaven all of a sudden, which was a surprise unto itself. The dying was one thing, but the heaven part, yeah, bonus. Pleasantly surprised things that I desperately can't wait to happen.
Host 1
I died. Yeah.
Host 2
I'll leave this earthly hell. And B, I'm going to heaven.
Host 1
I get to use that note on my phone. Sing Break the ice with St. Peter?
Host 2
No, with Magic Johnson.
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Host 1
Icebreakers with St. Peter.
Host 2
Really want to try to set the stage here? Well, for a good.
Host 1
We've debated for years down on Earth. Did OJ Ever show up here where you could turn him away? Yeah.
Host 2
No. With Magic now, though, he's aged to the point where it's like, okay, this is just kind of like my grandpa, I guess, tweeting. Yeah, maybe.
Host 1
Maybe. I just don't like being told that it's a.
Host 2
That I should want to watch the rings. It was like when everybody was telling us, hey, hey, NFL fans, stop criticizing the Chiefs. You should just stand back. That's what this is, this championship they're about to win.
Host 1
Thank you.
Host 2
This is what they were saying before the Eagles game. They were acting like they'd already won the game.
Host 1
Oh.
Host 2
Remember? Oh, three in a row. Who would have thought we'd see it?
Host 1
Remember Nate Burleson lecturing us.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Yes.
Host 1
On just sit back and enjoy the great.
Host 2
No, no, no. We're gonna hate the Chiefs with each ensuing championship even more.
Host 1
All right, I've got two more, and they're college football related. Texas Techs Joey McGuire, who, you know I'm not a big fan of their head coach, tells Brett McMurphy of On3, which is a college football site, that the Red Raiders are embracing the villain role. Quote, we're the most hated team in college football, and I absolutely love it. End quote.
Host 2
That's the thing. I don't think the team is hated as much as, like, the actual, like, Joey Maguire himself in the administration and everybody else.
Host 1
Cody Campbell, the billionaire benefactor of theirs.
Host 2
That's the other hatred. I don't think it. I don't think I feel it from fan bases as much as. Because it's not like Texas Tech is sitting on top of three consecutive national championships.
Host 1
Yes. No, he.
Guest or Additional Commentator 2
Joey.
Host 1
Joey McGuire doesn't get what being a heel is.
Host 2
Right.
Host 1
You've got to have some success. And I know they made the college football playoffs. They also got shut out in their one game they played in the college football playoffs. So they. They rolled over. They rolled over in the playoffs. So it's not like they put in a performance in the postseason that would have people who. Hating them.
Host 2
Yeah, you.
Host 1
You were ready to let a degenerate gambler play quarterback for you. And then when the water started getting. Getting a little hot legally, you said, why don't you go into the supplemental draft? And then kind of hung the kid out to dry.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Yeah.
Host 2
You guys are villains in the, like, people who read the paper version of the Sports Business Journal.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
You know, like the people in various circuit courts or whatever we call these
Host 1
chicken bleep heels in the wrestling world. There's. There's the. There's the heels that are cool because they're, you know, they had some success and they're bad guys. And then there's other ones where you're like.
Host 2
They're like, you know, they're like the guy that pulls a practical joke on somebody and it's not a really good practical joke, but they insist. Oh, yeah, you should have seen your face. I mean, while the person. The person who. The person who the joke was played on was kind of like, wasn't affected by it at all. You should have seen your face.
Host 1
That's exactly what it is.
Host 2
I. Now I'm getting mildly agitated that you're acting like this, but no Joey McGuire. I sidestepped the bucket of water.
Host 1
We're the biggest villains in college football. Get out of here.
Host 2
Now, if. If Sorsby had been playing for him, then they would. Then they might have an argument.
Host 1
Yeah, but they got cold feet with the Sourcebee thing. They're like, oh, why don't you go Pro? The Big 12 might punish us.
Guest or Additional Commentator
Yeah.
Host 2
No true villain would have figured out a way to get Sourceby to play.
Host 1
Yeah.
Host 2
And actually. And then Then they'd be villains. You got cold feet, but, yeah, you chickened out. You know what you are? You're like an 80s movie villain from before. They used to just hire some cheap actors, some of those old Schwarzenegger movies and everything. Like, it was like some skinny, fat dude wearing a mesh shirt who wasn't a good actor. And you're like, oh, this is the super villain in this movie. Like, no, you paid him, like, $25,000. He picked him up from a soup kitchen.
Host 1
All right, I don't know if you've seen or heard this yet. I immediately thought of you when I saw this, because this is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard somebody say. Not that you say dumb things. You'll think that this is very, very dumb. This is what we're about to hear.
Host 2
I don't care. I'm going to heaven. I don't know. Well, before you go.
Host 1
Before you go, take a list. This is new Purdue athletic director Tommy McClelland. Okay, now keep in mind Purdue, big in state, rival of Indiana. Okay. So he's trying to kind of resurrect Purdue athletic football, really, because the basketball team's good, but he's trying to get kind of people rallied.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
With Purdue athletics. And here's what he said. Every recruit, every current student athlete will
Host 2
hear this message repeatedly. We are here to win championships.
Host 1
If you don't want to win championships, go to Indiana. Go to the school that just won the championship in the most popular sport in collegiate athletics.
Host 2
And then he stands up and looks at Signetti and he's like, burr, you should have seen your taste. Oh, oh, meme. Meme of the kid doing the
Host 1
signetti.
Tobin Heath
Oh.
Host 1
Oh, my God. How stupid are you?
Host 2
How's that taste? Signetti.
Host 1
Oh, my God. If you don't want to win championships, go to Indiana.
Host 2
What the hell was that?
Host 1
I don't know.
Host 2
I wasn't expecting that at all.
Host 1
Right.
Host 2
I figure out where he was going to go.
Host 1
Get a better reaction out of you
Host 2
than I was expecting.
Host 1
Oh, my God.
Host 2
Hey, Byron. Gen Z representative. What do we call that? That meme or that. That gif of the kid in the schoolyard doing the.
Host 1
Oh, you know, I just call it
Host 2
the whoa as well. Yeah. I think people listening might know what I'm talking about. Just it's the one kid, they're like, in a schoolyard, somebody just either got beat up or they're, like, humiliated. And he just enters the frame with
Host 1
that, like, whoa, yeah.
Host 2
Face. Yes.
Host 1
Oh, wow. Breaking news. The Lakers Just got sold for $2012
Host 2
billion to American businessman Josh Kushner on Bob Iger.
Host 1
Is he Disney? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host 2
That's interesting. The way that was framed. It was like almost like Bob Iger was American Businessman something. Kushner and Bob Iger.
Host 1
Bob Iger's like his assistant.
Host 2
Is he Irish? What's going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Host 1
So that. Wow. $12 billion going rate.
Host 2
Whoa, whoa.
Host 1
Yeah. All right.
Host 2
$12 billion for the Lakers. Hadn't they just.
Host 1
They sold a chunk of it.
Host 2
A chunk of it.
Host 1
I guess they bought the whole thing.
Guest or Additional Commentator
All right.
Host 1
The chunk that they sold, if I'm not mistaken. I'll look this up during the break. The chunk of it they sold valued the team as a whole at 10 billion.
Host 2
Yeah.
Host 1
So they, you know, in other words, that chunk, if you had multiplied it times the entirety of the team, it was 10 billion. That was like a year or two ago, though. Yeah, this is today. Just now. 12 billion. Man.
Guest or Additional Commentator 2
I.
Host 1
You know what, Carry this into the next segment since we're up against it.
Guest or Additional Commentator 2
This.
Host 1
This brings up yet another question that I have for billionaire owners of sports teams out there. We'll talk about that and a whole lot more coming up next.
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Date: August 12, 2026
Hosts: Seth Payne & Sean Pendergast
Podcast: Payne & Pendergast (Audacy)
This episode of Payne & Pendergast leans fully into the “Pettycast” theme, as Seth and Sean let their sports grievances fly. With NFL Hall of Fame speeches, pet peeves about the Astros' “Circle of Trust,” some memorable pettiness on social media, and a hilarious take on college football’s embrace of the villain label, the hosts dissect moments in the sports world where snark and ego collide. The episode also tackles hot takes about the Texans, tangents on the Rockets and Lakers, and a cascade of classic Houston sports banter.
[01:10–02:50]
[02:50–06:16]
[06:30–07:46]
[07:53–09:47]
[09:51–13:07]
Joey McGuire: “Embracing the Most Hated”
[13:41–15:55]
Purdue’s New AD’s Blunder
[16:39–18:23]
This “Pettycast” is quintessential Payne & Pendergast—unfiltered, hyper-local, and unafraid to poke fun at the sports world’s egos and hypocrisies. Whether it’s the Astros’ shrinking “Circle of Trust,” the cringe factor at Hall of Fame speeches, the absurdity of social media hype, or college football’s villain cosplay, no target is safe from their sharp, entertaining cynicism.
For Houston sports fans and pettiness aficionados alike, this episode is a must-listen.