Russini Traffic Stop Breakdown + Seth's Traffic Stop Advice

Summary

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Payne & Pendergast Podcast Summary

Episode Title: Russini Traffic Stop Breakdown + Seth's Traffic Stop Advice
Date: June 30, 2026
Hosts/Contributors: Seth Payne, Sean Pendergast (Note: this episode features a guest panel including Mike Florio, Peter King, Ben, and various callers)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the recently surfaced body cam footage from NFL journalist Diana Russini’s infamous traffic stop—a story she embellished publicly, which has since led to controversy over journalistic ethics. The hosts break down what really happened, dissect the fallout for Russini, and use the incident to launch into a lively discussion on how to get out of traffic tickets. Seth Payne shares his now-viral “traffic stop survival” advice, complete with actionable steps and behavioral psychology tips.

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Key Discussion Points

1. The Diana Russini Traffic Stop Scandal

• The panel discusses Diana Russini’s story about getting out of a ticket by chatting football with a police officer and supposedly FaceTiming an NFL coach for the cop ([01:15]-[03:05]).
• It’s revealed via body cam footage that Russini did not actually FaceTime the coach—she merely showed the cop messages from Kevin O’Connell, coach of the Minnesota Vikings ([01:44]-[02:55]).
• The fallout: Russini’s embellishment is labeled as journalistically unethical, and she has since resigned from The Athletic ([03:11]-[03:28]).

Notable Quotes:

• "So Rossini lied about doing something journalistically unethical. She can't catch a break." – Peter King ([03:11])
• “She concocted an entire conversation that they had on this FaceTime that never happened.” – Mike Florio ([04:04])
• "The web of Rossini knows no bounds." – Mike Florio ([03:03])

Breakdown of What Actually Happened:

• Russini admitted to being an NFL writer covering breaking news when pulled over—did not use her name, but let the cop know about her job.
• The cop, a Vikings fan, was shown texts from Vikings coach Kevin O’Connell, not a live FaceTime ([02:26]-[02:55]).

Officer’s Reaction:

• "Listen, I'm going to cut you a break on the cell phone. I understand your job requires you to be on the phone a lot. Just try to wait till you get home. Okay. And, yeah, keep me updated with the Vikings. Okay. Let me know if KLC is going to get a new quarterback in." ([04:36]-[04:57])

Hosts’ Analysis:

• The story was manipulated but done so with notable charisma and charm; Rossini is praised for deftly navigating the interaction without explicitly pulling the “do you know who I am?” card ([05:10]-[05:55]).
• Discussion of whether “name dropping” in a non-transactional, conversational way mitigates the ethical breach ([05:24]-[06:12]).

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2. How Diana Rossini's Charisma Played a Role

• The hosts debate why Rossini’s approach was effective and how her personality traits like charm, charisma, and social “aura” contributed ([05:10]-[06:05]).
• Comparison to other “do you know who I am?” incidents—Rossini’s technique is described as subtle and well-integrated into the conversation, not an overt attempt at quid pro quo ([05:41]-[05:55]).

Notable Quotes:

• “She did it ‘do you know who I am?’ in the most deft way possible, which was bringing up her job.” – Mike Florio ([05:42])
• "She's got aura." – Peter King ([05:24])

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3. Dissecting the Speculation and Aftermath

• The panel discusses the process of speculating which coach was involved before the footage was released, including their own logic in ruling out certain teams and coaches based on geography, tenure, or personality ([07:03]-[09:45]).
• They discuss how inaccurate or embellished stories can kill the credibility of journalists and make speculation during reporting a “fool's errand” ([10:30]-[10:55]).

Notable Quotes:

• “Any speculation whatsoever, you’re dealing with false information.” – Peter King ([10:30])
• “No handicap is 100%.” – Mike Florio ([10:51])

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4. Seth Payne’s Traffic Stop Survival Guide

[Main Segment: [12:26]-[17:58]]

Seth Payne, a former NFL player, shares his tried-and-true advice for reducing your chance of getting a ticket during a traffic stop—backed by his impressive self-reported “90% success rate.”

Five Rules for a Successful Traffic Stop:

1. Pull All the Way Over to the Right ([13:36]-[13:56]):

   • “Pull all the way over to the right as far as possible to keep it safe for the police officers.” – Mike Florio

2. Make Cops Comfortable – Hands Visible, Windows Down, Lights On ([13:56]-[14:00]):

   • “Be sure that the windows are down, the lights are on, your hands are on the steering wheel.” – Peter King

3. Don’t Look at the Officer While Grabbing Docs ([14:07]-[14:15]):

   • “If you're looking at the cop, then it looks like you're fishing for a weapon.” – Mike Florio

4. Be Brutally Honest about What You Did ([14:39]-[15:47]):

   • “Try to be as specific and acknowledging your transgression as you can possibly be—brutally honest.” – Mike Florio
   • “It’s the one that people, they have to fight against. ... The key is to be brutally honest about exactly how fast you're going, which does two things: They don't get that a lot, and at the very least, it shows you are paying attention.” – Peter King

5. Be Friendly and Aim to Disarm the Situation ([16:25]):

   • “Try to make friends is the fifth one.” – Peter King

The Psychology Behind the Rules:

• Acknowledging guilt or error sets you apart. “It shows you’re paying attention and not making excuses. Cops rarely encounter extreme honesty.” – Peter King ([14:47]-[15:47])
• Reduce officer stress levels. The goal is to “make everything as unremarkable as possible” and keep the officer at ease ([15:32]-[16:17]).

Notable Segment:

• Seth claims a 90% success rate for getting out of tickets, compared to the average “44%” warning rate cited in a referenced article ([12:36]-[13:00]).
• Discussion about how acting “aghast” at being caught—“Wow, really?”—signals dishonesty, hurting chances to get a warning ([17:43]-[17:49]).

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5. Audience Engagement & Cops’ Perspectives

• The hosts invite law enforcement listeners to text or call in and confirm whether “brutal honesty” makes them more likely to let someone off—a future segment is teased ([17:58]-[18:13]).

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

| Time | Speaker | Quote/Highlight | |---------|-------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:11 | Peter King | “Rossini lied about doing something journalistically unethical. She can't catch a break.” | | 04:04 | Mike Florio | “She concocted an entire conversation that they had on this FaceTime that never happened.” | | 05:42 | Mike Florio | “She did it 'do you know who I am?' in the most deft way possible, which was bringing up her job.” | | 06:05 | Mike Florio | “She didn’t even say her name when she got pulled over. Said, ‘I’m an NFL writer…’” | | 14:47 | Peter King | “The key is to be brutally honest about exactly how fast you're going, which does two things...” | | 17:49 | Peter King | “'Wow, really' is the equivalent of 'I've only had a couple of drinks.' You know, it's like, all right, yeah, we've heard that a bunch.” |

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Useful Timestamps

• [01:15]-[06:12]: Russini traffic stop story breakdown and ethics debate
• [07:03]-[10:55]: The “guess the coach” logic game and aftermath
• [12:26]-[17:58]: Seth Payne’s step-by-step “how to get out of a ticket” guide

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Conclusion

This episode spotlights both the power and perils of using insider access—whether you’re a journalist like Russini or just a regular driver hoping for leniency. Seth Payne’s traffic stop advice stands out as a “pro’s guide” that re-frames a dreaded moment as an exercise in honesty, empathy, and self-control. The lively banter, real-world anecdotes, and practical takeaways make this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in sports journalism, media ethics, or simply getting out of their next speeding ticket.

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Transcript

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All right, Pain and pender gas with you. All right, so we won't reset the entire Rossini getting out of a ticket story. We've played it multiple times. She claims it. She the officer that pulled her over. They got into a conversation about the NFL. He claimed he was a fan of a team that was not the jets or the Giants or the Buffalo Bills. And then she FaceTimed the coach of that team with the cop.

[Peter King]

Like that's what she claimed.

[Mike Florio]

She claimed that in a story that she told on the Stugot show on Radio Row at the Super Bowl. As it turns out, the body cam footage surfaced yesterday of this particular traffic stop back on January 19th. And as it turns out, yes, parts of her story were true. She did get into a conversation with the police officer about football. Turns out his favorite team was the Vikings. So let's play this one, Ben. Where? Where Rossini the last Racini here. Where she shows the text from Kevin o'. Connell. She says, oh, you're a Vikings fan? Well, hold on a second. Gets out her phone, opens up, either texts or DMS or something like that, and shows it to the cop.

[Ben]

Let's see it.

[Mike Florio]

Oh, my God.

[Ben]

Koc.

[Guest / Caller]

See what I said?

[Mike Florio]

Look what I said to him though, just now. Go to the bottom. Oh, my God.

[Ben]

Wow. Pretty cool. Yeah, he Seems like a. Dude.

[Mike Florio]

Your quarterback sucks.

[Peter King]

KOC is awesome, but their quarterback sucks.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Peter King]

He said their quarterback, right? Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

I thought she kind of said you're. I don't know. Yeah. Either way, we know who she's talking about.

[Peter King]

Yeah. Yeah. So which. Yeah. J.J. mcCarthy now becomes a part of the scandal. Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

The web of Rossini knows no bounds.

[Peter King]

Everybody's being drawn. Let me ask you this. So.

[Guest / Caller]

Right.

[Peter King]

Rossini was lying about the FaceTime part of it.

[Mike Florio]

Yes.

[Peter King]

As somebody. AJ Perez says. So Rossini lied about doing something journalistically unethical. She can't catch a break.

[Mike Florio]

Well, that's the thing. We didn't point that out before. The Athletic has commented on this entire story now that she's been telling. And they. She's. She's gone now. She resigned.

[Peter King]

It's a. Yeah, they say it's a violation of her journalistic privilege to use it for her own personal gain. Like that.

[Mike Florio]

Yes.

[Peter King]

But she was lying about the FaceTiming part. It was. So she was. She did something journalistically unethical and then lied about it in the retelling. In the retelling of it. Which. And again, I know we talked about this earlier. Okay. Like, you tell tall tales or whatever. You embellish when you're telling a story to make it more interesting. I think it's a. It's a different standard when you're a journalist where people are relying on you for facts. So it's like it's a pattern of either embellishing or lying or whatever that just looks worse and worse for.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

Because she concocted an entire conversation that they had on the. On this FaceTime that never happened. Like, he said this, and the cop said this, and then the coach said this. Like, okay, we now know it didn't happen. It's because the body cam footage shows the entire traffic stop, including the dead time where the officer was writing the ticket. There's no pause in this thing where,

[Peter King]

you know, he's writing up whatever he is writing up. Give her a ticket.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah.

[Peter King]

Right. Yeah, he was.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah, he was just doing his administrative work.

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[Mike Florio]

This is the cop cutting Rossini a break.

[Ben]

Listen, I'm going to cut you a break on the cell phone. I understand your job requires you to be on the phone a lot. Just try to wait till you get home. Okay. And, yeah, keep me updated with the Vikings. Okay. Let me know if KLC is going to get a new quarterback in. Of course. All right, ma'.

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[Mike Florio]

Okay. I'll credit Rossini with this she had that cop eating out of her hands. She. She played a name drop perfectly well.

[Peter King]

You know, the thing about Rossini is she does have a. She has a. An engaging personality.

[Mike Florio]

She's got charisma.

[Peter King]

She's got a lot of charm.

[Mike Florio]

Yep.

[Peter King]

You know, you might look at her and be like, why is Rabel risking it all for. For Rossini? She's got a certain. Or she's got aura is what she's got. Sean.

[Ben]

Kids.

[Peter King]

She's got aura.

[Guest / Caller]

Kids.

[Mike Florio]

Does Diana Rossini have aura? I think she has two. No, I think she. I think. And she did the impressive thing because some people are. Some people are equating this to a do you know who I am? Situation, which we've seen other people do.

[Peter King]

She did it.

[Mike Florio]

She did it. Do you know who I am? In the most deft way possible, which was bringing up her job.

[Peter King]

It was all part of. Yeah. It was a natural flow of conversation. It wasn't like. It wasn't. She wasn't trying to present it as a quid proud.

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[Peter King]

You know, she wasn't like, hey, I'm this. I'm this person and you should let me off because I'm somebody important. She didn't even say, it'll work out for you. Somewhere down the road.

[Mike Florio]

She didn't even say her name when she got pulled over. Said, I'm an NFL writer and Sean McDermott just got fired and I'm trying to break the story.

[Peter King]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

So I think there was a twofold thing there. I think, One, she was explaining herself. Two, I think there's part of her like, oh, if this cop's a football fan, I've got it. I got him.

[Peter King]

Can I say one thing? That if this had gone a slightly different direction, how awesome it would have been if he was a Patriots fan. The. That.

[Mike Florio]

Then, then.

[Peter King]

Then that would have been the best.

[Mike Florio]

Well, she would at least been telling the truth, because I guarantee you that there would have been a FaceTime.

[Peter King]

She would have.

[Mike Florio]

FaceTime.

[Peter King]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. She was probably going to keep upping the ante as long as it took for as much as it took. And we giving what's been alleged about Diana Rossini. Who knows how far the ante would have gone in this situation.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

My. I tried to guess this. I went through this exercise of trying to guess who it was, and then literally five minutes later, the tweet with the body cam footage comes out.

[Peter King]

Yeah. Look, a lot of people had ruled people out.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah.

[Peter King]

Certain coaches out. Had you ruled out Kevin O'? Connell.

[Mike Florio]

I had ruled out. Ruled out Kevin o'. Connell. And again, I'm just handicapping it here. I know that there's a good chance. Obviously, I got. I ended up getting it wrong. This is how I eliminated.

[Peter King]

It was nobody at all because you're working on bad information.

[Mike Florio]

Well, no, no.

[Peter King]

But.

[Mike Florio]

But, no. Well, it was. But. No, I'm on who the cop's favorite team was. The coach was.

[Peter King]

Right, Right. No, but I'm saying is that it was all. All of your speculation was based on a false story, so that some of the things that you're doing to, like, some people. Were you, like, was the team still in the race because she said she called the coach at his office.

[Mike Florio]

No, I get it. But it was still truthful that the cop had a favorite team and coach. That's what I was trying to determine. Yeah, that was still truthful. Right. It was Minnesota, he said. So I was. That's what I was trying to figure out, like, independent of facetimes and texts or whatever, like, who. Who could this cop's favorite team have been? And so I. We eliminated. We did. What Florio did. I did with Florio did. I eliminated all the. The job openings. Yeah, I bet on what Florio did, and I eliminated the west coast guys, even though that's probably not super smart, but I did, you know, because of the time of day. It was at 9.

[Peter King]

Yeah, gotcha.

[Mike Florio]

It was at 9 in the morning. I'm just trying to, you know, play the odds here. I then eliminated the teams that I thought there would be little chance that a Jersey cop would root for.

[Peter King]

Oh, okay.

[Mike Florio]

So, like, Cincinnati, Indy, Houston, Denver, mostly based on geography, Midwest teams, Florida teams, things like that. I then eliminated coaches who haven't been head coaches long enough to have gotten caught in the web of Rossini, which would be Liam Cohen in Jacksonville was only a head coach for one year.

[Peter King]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

Ryan Schottenheimer just finished his first year, and Ben Johnson just finished his first year. I think she's above engaging with offensive coordinators and whatnot.

[Peter King]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

So. So. So I eliminated them. I also eliminated coaches who would not have the get out of a ticket charisma. That's probably where the FaceTime comes in here, because. Yeah, like. Like Dan Quinn and Matt lafleur don't strike me as guys who would be able to woo a cop into giving into. Into eliminating a ticket.

[Peter King]

So where did you eliminate. You eliminated Minnesota based on the Midwest.

[Mike Florio]

Based on the geography. Yeah, it's.

[Peter King]

Where'd you eliminate d'? Ameco? Based on which project?

[Mike Florio]

Geography. Yeah, geography. Yeah.

[Peter King]

Miko also just doesn't like, d' Amigo doesn't play that game at all like other NFL. And I'm not saying like it's a good thing or a bad thing. I just says some coaches just flat out don't want to play that game. The media insider game.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah.

[Peter King]

And. And I. I think I. I would not be surprised if Amico doesn't have a relationship with any reporter.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah.

[Peter King]

Like Rossini or otherwise like that. Like, like kind of a personal texting.

[Mike Florio]

I was left with Andy Reid, who I left in there because he used to coach in Philly. And I thought this cop, you know, being up in the Northeast, might be a Philly fan.

[Peter King]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

Which also left Nick Sirianni. And I also have John Harbaugh in there, even though he had just been hired by the Giants. I have John Harbaugh in there too, so. So those are the three that I come up with in my mind. The most likely to win. Turns out it was Kevin o'.

[Guest / Caller]

Connell.

[Peter King]

It's Kevin o'. Connell. Except it wasn't Kevin o'. Connell. It was. Yeah, I, like. I don't know. I just. I give everybody a pass on like trying to make any. Like you said you eliminated some of the west coast teams just based on the fact that the story was that you're like. That she was FaceTiming them at the office.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah, that's true.

[Peter King]

6:00am or whatever.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah.

[Peter King]

So it was just like. It was like any speculation whatsoever, you're dealing with false information.

[Guest / Caller]

Sure.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah. Again, I'm just. I was just trying to figure out who the cops favorite team was and.

[Peter King]

Yeah, I don't know. I just. There's so many people that have just weird, like weird fandoms for random teams.

[Mike Florio]

Totally. Yeah. Yeah.

[Peter King]

The kid that was a Seahawks fan for God knows what reason.

[Mike Florio]

Absolutely.

[Peter King]

No, it didn't make any sense at all.

[Mike Florio]

No handicap is. Is 100%. I was just handicapping the whole thing. Yeah.

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[Mike Florio]

But you gave out some good advice earlier to people, Seth, for those that weren't listening earlier, because you and I were talking off the air and I was stunned at a few. I was stunned that 44% of people get out of tickets.

[Peter King]

You look that up, 44% of traffic stops result in a warning.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah.

[Peter King]

Give or take. Based on one article that I.

[Mike Florio]

Right, right, right. So I asked you, what percentage have you gotten out of? Because I estimate that I've gotten out of maybe a third of mine.

[Peter King]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

Which I think is pretty good. Until I heard that 44% and I'm like, God, I must be a jerk. And then I hear that you estimate that you've gotten out of 90% of the tickets or your, your traffic stops.

[Peter King]

Yeah, I used to keep. I had a running tally for a long time because I had an incredible streak going where I'd gotten out of like six or seven in a row. With each ensuing stop, my wife would grow more disgusted with how effective I was at evading the law. And yet this is the biggest thing.

[Mike Florio]

It never got that bad. You're at 90%.

[Peter King]

There was never. There was no evasiveness about. Was just there's a few key things you can do and there's one that people, they hear me say this and they don't believe it and they don't abide by it. And that's where they get. Where they, where they get screwed over. What were the. Did you write down the.

[Mike Florio]

No, I didn't write them down.

[Peter King]

No, no, no.

[Mike Florio]

I was going to ask you if I could recite them to show that I was listening intently earlier so I could get better. The big one that you said at first was pull all the way over to the right as far as possible to keep it safe for the police officers. Yeah, that's number one. Number two is, I think you said, like, when they come up to the car, like, you know, have your hands on like 10 and 2.

[Peter King]

Yeah. Be sure that the windows are down, the lights are on, your hands are on the steering wheel.

[Mike Florio]

Yep.

[Peter King]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

The one, one of the things you said was when you get asked to produce your license and registration.

[Guest / Caller]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

It's okay to look in the glove box to go fish for those things. If you're looking at the cop, then it looks like you're fishing for a weapon.

[Peter King]

Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes people out of nervousness will do that because they're just freaking out and they're. And yeah, look. Yeah, that's exactly what somebody does when they're. When they're looking for a gun while keeping their eye on the target.

[Mike Florio]

Yep, yep. So that was. That was. I don't know if I have them in the right order, but I know those are three of them. I know another one too was when they ask the question, do you know why I pulled you over?

[Peter King]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

Try to be as specific and acknowledging your transgression as you can possibly be brutally honest.

[Peter King]

This is the disarming thing. And I think it might be the key. And it's the one that people, they have to fight against. Because your tendency is to say, I know I was speeding a little bit. And then like, how's like 5 miles per hour over the speed limit? And they're like, actually, you're 15 over and you go, oh. I was like, immediately you're screwed. Then. Yeah, like, all right. Yeah, here, buddy. Yeah. Okay. So like, the key is to be brutally honest about exactly how fast you're going, which does two things. One, it's just one, they don't get that a lot. They don't get people being totally honest. So it kind of like sets you apart all of a sudden. But two, at the very least, it shows that you are paying attention, even if you're. Even if you. And it's okay to sneak in a little bit of an excuse there. I think that's where there's some latitude and you got to read the body language of the guy.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Peter King]

But it's kind of like, you know, I was going with traffic. I was going at 82 miles per hour, and I just, I shouldn't have been. I just kind of got caught up and going with traffic or whatever. But like, don't. That's the other part of it is don't act overly self punishing or make it into a bigger deal than it is. These guys pull over 100 people a day. It's not like you're being tried for murder or something. So, like, just trying to keep everything. Everything about a cop pulling you over has to do with their stress level.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah.

[Peter King]

Because they go from a situation where I might be in a dangerous situation here, I have no idea what. And the more at ease you can make them feel and the less, like, remarkable in some ways it is, the better.

[Mike Florio]

Okay, I need a gut reaction from you. This is an important question. Okay. Of those four things I just named, I think I hit most of what you were giving. Out of those four, the fifth point

[Peter King]

was try to make friends.

[Mike Florio]

Try to make friends is the fifth one. Yeah. Okay, so of the five things, try to have the five things pull all the way over to the right as far as possible.

[Peter King]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

Windows down, hands on steering wheel, lights off. I'm going to put that all as one. Just like number. Number three was. Number. Number three was. Oh, looking. Not making eye contact when you're getting the registration.

[Peter King]

Yeah.

[Mike Florio]

With the cop. Number four is what we just talked about, you know, acknowledging your transgression and then number five, being friendly. What is the. What do you think the biggest reason my success rate in getting out of tickets is 60% lower than yours. Which. Which, if you had to guess, which one of those am I most deficient at?

[Peter King]

If I had to guess with you? You've told me that you pull all the way over to the right. Yeah, right. You've told me that.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Peter King]

I think probably the honesty part.

[Mike Florio]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Peter King]

Just like, Like. Or do you act like, oh, I don't. I didn't realize I was driving that.

[Mike Florio]

I don't do that. But I. But I don't get, like, I. Yeah, I. Like, I'll acknowledge I was probably speeding, but I don't get aghast when they tell me, no, you were 20. Like, really? I. No, I do, actually. No, I do do that. I don't. I. I'll acknowledge I'm speeding, but you

[Peter King]

won't say I was going 80.

[Mike Florio]

I know I won't. If he gives me a number, I do act surprised by that. Like, really? I definitely do that.

[Peter King]

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