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It's Wednesday. It's a short week for us. We're out on Friday.
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It'll probably be one of the best shows you and I have ever done.
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Typically when we go in and just don't think about it, you know. Yeah, no mind.
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So the latest in the Brendan Sorsby situation, which has provided us some nice content through the last few weeks, did not, you know, the beginning of the year. I'm like, you start to look at the summer months. You're like, what can carry us through the months of June? I did not have degenerate gambler quarterback trying to petition his way into the NFL on my bingo card.
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You can't predict when, you know, you can't predict the things that are going to disrupt your life. That's right. Like personal computers in the 1980s.
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Yep.
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The smartphone in the 2000 oughts. And then Brendan Sorsby in the 2000 and twenties, same exact thing.
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So, so we know Sourcebees deal was. He was, you know, he, he sued the NCAA to get an injunction for their ban on him successfully. And then the Big 12 kind of boat up and said, no, no, no, we're not letting you play. We're gonna, we're, we're gonna litigate too. Which kind of frightened Texas Tech into convincing Sorsby to declare his intentions to go pro in a supplemental draft that the NFL subsequently said, no, that's not going to happen. So now. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of a man without a country. Right.
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I, you know what? I got to, I got to recognize the strategy of the NFL here because I think they figured, especially because Scoresby was being represented by a lawyer who has taken on the NFL before, and they're kind of looking at it and they're saying, like, all right, well, what's the thing that we have the most latitude to do? And it comes to the, the supplemental draft, it feels like it's. The NFL pretty much has carte blanche to say whatever the hell they want, make whatever decision they want.
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Yeah.
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So they like, they kind of went back to the way Goodell used to operate.
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Right.
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With punishment choices where I'm going to do whatever I want, but he can't do that anymore. But now he's like, oh, okay, we just won't let him into the league and then we don't have to think about it.
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Yeah, it's a good point. Like, I think if I had to guess, the NFL is probably looking at this whole situation from afar before, even before he declared for the NFL, even when he was suing the ncaa. They like the. I think most people, I think most people that are sports fans were looking at it going, this guy shouldn't be allowed to play football this year.
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Right.
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And I, So I think the NFL probably looked at it and said, okay, now this kid wants to come into our league. You're absolutely right, Seth. Like, what's the, what's the way with the, with the least amount of legal entanglements that essentially serve as a one year suspension for him?
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And I guess, and I guess, and I don't. I'm getting way out over my skis here. But as I understand it, they already had a precedent because of the way the courts handled Maurice Claret back in the day, that they Felt pretty rock solid about this and that. Like, okay, then we're going to do this. This is the least headaches. And the kid like without like you can even people that would say, yes, he deserves a chance to play. I have a hard time thinking there's a lot of people out there that think that gambling on your own team, no matter what age you're at, should be punished by two meaningless regular season games early in the year. You know, like it just it outside of Texas Tech people, there needs to be more of a punishment than that because you got a lot of people that feel like that you should never be allowed to play again after you've gambled on your own team, no matter what age you are. But like the Spectrum's got to be somewhere between a one year suspension at minimum and then something. If it's more egregious, then maybe you go more than that.
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Yeah. So Adam Schefter tweeted this yesterday and this is important because when the NFL said we're not going to have a supplemental draft, then Brendan Sorsby's lawyer Jeffrey Kessler started saber rattling and saying, oh well, this isn't how the, this isn't how the collective bargaining agreement, bargaining agreement supposed to work. Even though Sourcebee technically isn't even covered by the collective bargaining agreement yet.
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Right.
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So he was saying no, he was making noise like they were going to sue the NFL to get this kid into the NFL this year, which would have been fascinating. I think it would have been a disaster and I think it would have been really bad for Soursby. Everybody put their weapons down. Yesterday, Adam Schefter tweeting a memo was sent to all NFL teams saying that the NFLPA and Brendan Sorsby was will not be pursuing any further litigation regarding his entry into the NFL and that instead sbe will focus on his preparation for entry into the 2027 NFL Draft. SBE will be considered a draft eligible player for 2027 and will not be eligible to sign a contract with the NFL until the completion. Until he gets drafted basically in, in 2027. Not in this tweet. But also worth mentioning is that he'll, he will be treated come draft season next year just like everybody else. He'll be allowed to participate in the combine. He'll be allowed to be one of and I would imagine he'll be on the list for several NFL teams to have a 30 visit to the facility. You know, he fits, he fits the criteria to a tee of a guy that teams are really going to Want to interrogate, you know,
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the athletic. Did an article. This is interesting. Like, man, it's, it's rare for there to be a gap year for guys between their last year of college football and then, you know, wait a year and then play football. And it's like the examples they bring up, and I don't think they're just cherry picking. They're kind of trying to go through and make a list. It's either, it's either really bad or really promising. So like Maurice Claret.
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Yeah.
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Couldn't enter the 2024 draft. He was out. Ended up just barely playing in the NFL.
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2000. 2004.
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What did I say?
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2024.
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Oh, yeah. That's way off.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Mike Williams, the USC receiver. One of many Mike Williams who would play wide receiver in the NFL, but he never did much in the NFL. But then you go to service academy graduates and you get guys like Roger Staubach.
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Yeah.
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Worked pretty well for Roger Staubach.
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Was it Chad Hennings in that?
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Chad Hennings, Yeah, he was another one. Yeah. Yeah. But then you go back to guys like Josh Gordon. You know, the guys that were. Got out for some kind of a disciplinary reason. Hadn't worked out too well. Now if you go to the COVID 19 opt outs, they didn't, it's. They didn't mention them here, which offends me. But Nico Collins. Yep. You know, Nico Collins didn't play a year of football and got a slow start to the NFL, but he was also in a bad situation. It's worked out pretty damn well for him. Jamar Chase was an opt out.
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Mike Michael Parsons was an opt out.
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Yeah. Back in the day, Sewell was an opt out.
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Penny. Yeah, boy. I mean, you're talking about with Jamar Chase. Micah Parsons went healthy and Penne Sewell, you're talking about three guys that you could argue at their peak were the best at their position.
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And the thing about those guys is that they were all drafted in the top 13.
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Yeah.
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They didn't mention Nico because he got, he didn't get drafted in the first round. But, you know, it didn't. I don't think it hindered his, his career as much. He's a guy that really could have used one extra year of production and maturation that maybe you would have. Because remember when we were watching Nico Collins during training camp, you're like, if you walked out there, my impression was if I walked out on the field and somebody said, hey, Seth, pick out who The Texans first round pick was because they didn't have one that year. I would have looked around the rookies. Oh, it's that guy Collins.
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He.
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He definitely went in the first round, right? Yeah. So, like, quarterback. It's a little trickier than that because you're not going off of physical traits as much. But I think that it could potentially. He doesn't have the body of work that Jamar Chase, Penny Stool, Micah Parsons and Rashawn Slater had. Brendan Sorsby doesn't. Yeah, but. But like, I think teams aren't going to be as scared off by it as long as he's done a good job with his rehab and. And all that.
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Yeah. It's funny, you know, as Texan fans. Yeah. Like, right now there's, you know, there's not even a conversation about should the Texans be looking at swords? Be there. They're just. It doesn't seem like they're in a quarterback market, but that can change during the season. You brought this up earlier. You said, boy, like, if CJ has. The first four games don't look great. If the first four games. I mean, certainly if the first four games look like that Patriots game, this. The city's going to be burning to the ground. But even if they look like the Steeler game, let's say.
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Yeah.
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Minus the, you know, like, he's not fumbling the ball five times, but it's very inconsistent throwing the ball, but he has some wow throws here and there. I mean, keep in mind, they won that game 30 to 6, but CJ didn't generate 14 of those points. You know, there was a. There was a scoop fumble score by Sheldon Rankins and there was a pick six to close out the game by Kalen Bullock. So it's not like things were great offensively in that game. If the first four games, even if they're 3 and 1, but CJ's not looking great. Like, if they're 3 and 1 and they're winning games 17 to 13.
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Yeah.
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I don't know, man. Like, I'm going to start watching some of these college games much.
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I think it's 100% fair. Like, no. No. If it. And Sean, like, honestly, if all of a sudden he comes out, the last two times we've seen him, he has not been himself. There's a lot of pressure on him, and it looks like maybe he just been pushing too hard. You know, when. You know how much pressure is on him right now. A lot of pressure. A lot more pressure on him right now than. Than there probably has been at Any point in his career.
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Well, especially when you factor the money in, you know that he's playing for a contract, too.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think, no, I think that with Brendan Sorsby, I'm. The thing about quarterbacks is that I've always looked at that position as the one where, man, I really want to look at the off field stuff because there, there does seem to be a correlation between impulsivity off the field and impulsivity on the field. And if you go and start looking at quarterbacks that throw a lot of interceptions, for instance, a young Jameis Winston, a young Brett Favre, a Johnny Manziel, like these guys, the impulsivity off the field does seem to carry over. There's other positions where sometimes you look at impulsivity off the field and you're like, defensive line.
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Yeah.
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And you might be like, this guy's kind of wired the way I want. All right, you know what I was like, he's. He's got some issues, but I kind of like his moxie.
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Yeah.
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Quarterback is the opposite. So with Sourcebee, it's not just the ethical part of it. It's also that, all right, quarterbacks that show impulsivity off the field, like, there's. There's a correlation to how they perform on the field. So how much does that. And it's, you know, in the modern, in modern football, it's more of a check against you than, than it was in the past.
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You know, in some ways, you know, Brendan Sorsby is about to head into this year where he's probably going to be working with his quarterbacks coach, as you mentioned earlier, probably doing interviews, you know, like. Like interviews with media outlets to cleanse his image or whatever.
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Yeah.
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The biggest thing Sourcebee can prove to NFL decision makers is that he's not gambling anymore. And in some ways, having a season like this where he's not around a team every day, he's not. I, you know, I don't know if Texas Tech is still going to make the resources available to him to deal with his addiction to gambling. I have no idea. But there's no doubt he's going to have more idle time on his hands.
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Yeah.
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Texter of text in says now he's got nothing to do. All he's going to do is gamble all year. Lol. If he proves. I think it's. I think it'd be more impressive. I think proving that he's not succumbing to gambling in a year like the one he's got coming up might be to the NFL more impressive than anything he could do on a football field.
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Yeah. That's no by far. When people talk to him about what his process was like over the course of this coming year, that they're gonna want to see. All right. Did you build structure into your life? Because that's what keeps you on there straight and narrow. He's like, you've got to have some kind of structure in your life. You've got to have some kind of a plan. I'm guessing that he will. And just like, did he abide by that structure? That's the thing that's going, you know, the, the. It needs to be done with actions more so than words. Yeah. And he's got to be able to demonstrate it without being annoying and on Instagram all the time. Just demonstrate that. Yeah, I had this plan. This is what I was working on. This was my daily routine and all of that teams will be. I don't know if impressed is the right word, but that's what they want to see.
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It'll help. It'll help. Did you see that Paramount plus is going to be airing a docu series on the Texas Tech football programs off season dominated by the Brendan Sorsby saga. Yeah. Apparently it got announced yesterday that on Monday, I guess. Got announced on Monday. Paramount plus announced it. His green lit a docu series chronicling the Red Raiders off season. The docu series began production in January and is supposed to offer, quote, unprecedented access. According to a news release, four episodes are expected to begin airing before the start of the 2026 season. What's interesting to me about that is, obviously, they've had cameras following people in the facility and with the program and with the school around, because I know you don't announce that it's been greenlit when the off season's practically over. So that means whatever they've gathered probably makes Texas Tech look pretty favorable in this.
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Oh, yeah. There's going to be a scene in there of Joey McGuire just, like, crying. Crying. He would have used the little eyedroppers and be like, I just care about the kids so much. Yes. I'm just worried about him. I just. I feel like the best thing, the best possible thing for him was going to be for him to come play football. And they just. Boy, it's just hurts.
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Zoom in with, like, dramatic music. And he's got the one tier, like, the Native Americans standing on the hill, looking at all the trash that everybody's thrown and on the ground. And Joey Maguire's just got that one tear streaming down his cheek.
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I just want to do right by these kids, and I feel like I failed them.
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Yeah. I will watch this because I've been fascinated by this whole story, and I am really anxious to see what the Texas Tech spin in a documentary form is.
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When's it coming out?
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Expected to air. Begin airing before the start of the upcoming football season.
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So what are we, July 1st month? Yes. We got quarterback. Comes out sometime in July, too.
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July 20th. Ish.
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Okay. Like, right before training camp.
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Yeah. Which. And it's shaping up to be maybe the most depressing season of quarterback ever, because it's all injured guys or guys who failed last year.
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Who is it?
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It's Baker Mayfield. It's Jaden Daniels. You know, Baker didn't get injured, but the Tampa Bay season slid off the rails. Yeah, Jaden Daniels was hurt all year.
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Well, probably we might see a clip. Well, you know, we'll definitely see at least a clip of him scrambling for a first down against the Texans.
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Oh, BAKER Mayfield. Yeah, 100% in week two. So it's Baker Mayfield. It's Jaden Daniels. It's Cam Ward. You know, so we get to watch.
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Get some Texans action in there.
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Definitely get some Texans action there. But it'll be mostly watching a number one overall pick get his ass kicked all year. And then Joe Flacco is the other one. I'm actually most intrigued by Flacco.
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Like, he's got Traded, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got traded in the division. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The. No, because that. We'll get that. Because you remember, Tomlin weighed in on that, too. Tomlin was all hissy about it. There was a lot of drama there with Cam Ward. The one moment that intrigued me from last year was that they had a victory late in the season and Cam Ward got at the podium and basically, like, people are criticizing him for not being more excited about the win than he was. Where I, like, I kind of looked at it as Cam Ward was saying, we've got higher standards in this. I don't want to. I don't want to celebrate just one victory so much. And it became oddly polarizing. I was kind of impressed by it. All the reports about Cam Ward is that he's just a super mature young man.
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Yes.
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So. But I'm guessing that they'll. They'll spend a lot of time on that. One little chunk of that I'm looking forward to.
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I liked. I've liked the couple of seasons they've had. I've always come away feeling. Other than Marcus Mariota. I've always come away from watching that series feeling more favorably about the guys they've had in it.
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Yeah.
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And I don't know that that's the. I don't even think that's the intent. I think they're just. Mahomes annoyed me just because we got a lot of.
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Oh, yeah, we felt. No, we didn't. We were more negative about Mahomes and definitely about Mariota. Mariota. Mariota just looks sad all the time.
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Yeah. If I. If I. In that series, the. Of all the quarterbacks they've done in the two seasons that they've done it. If we went through and said, did you come away from quarterback feeling more favorable, Less favorable, or the same. I would have said slightly less on my homes just because he was annoying. And it turned into like a Chiefs season highlight video.
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Yeah.
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Because Mariota definitely less favorable. Kirk Cousins in both seasons, I came away feeling more favorable about. I liked Cousins in both series.
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I don't like seeing quarterbacks be overly emotional in the same way that when I'm watching people on a Netflix series when they're in a position of leadership.
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Yeah.
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I don't want to see them just kind of falling apart emotionally and sobbing.
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Yeah.
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When they are desperately needed to lead.
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Yep.
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So I don't want to give away a spoiler here. Yeah. What's the role? And now, like, House the Dragon came out. It was on Sunday was the newest
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I give it a go. Seth, the text page will tell you whether.
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Spoiler alert here. Okay, everybody. So, like, there's a point where, like, okay, so she. She loses a family member. Yeah. A very, very close family member. Awful. Awful. Right. But you are the would be queen. Like, you need to. You need to get over it. Yeah. Like, you're not allowed to be sad in this moment.
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Right.
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So whether you're a quarterback.
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Yep.
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Or a queen or a king or whatever it might be, you can't be. You can't be caught up in all of your own emotions when you're being asked to lead stoicism. Maybe if somebody gets hurt on the football fields and you're upset about, for example.
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Right.
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You've got a. Yeah. Yeah. So that's how I. That's why Mariota was like, like, all right, dude. Like, yeah, have some composure here.
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Quit on the team halfway through the season. He quit on the documentary.
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I'm not having fun. Yeah.
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Date: July 1, 2026
Hosts: Seth Payne & Sean Pendergast
In this episode, Seth Payne and Sean Pendergast dig deep into the latest chapter of Brendan Sorsby's ongoing eligibility saga, the NFL's handling of his attempted entry, and the implications for the 2027 NFL Draft. The duo also pivots toward the upcoming docuseries on Texas Tech's tumultuous offseason and takes a broader look at the 2027 quarterback class and the attributes that separate franchise passers from cautionary tales. The tone is lively, humorous, and analytical, with the hosts' signature Houston-centric flavor.
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On the surprising length and drama of the Sorsby saga:
Sean: "I did not have degenerate gambler quarterback trying to petition his way into the NFL on my bingo card." (01:48)
On the NFL’s discretionary power:
Seth: "The NFL pretty much has carte blanche to say whatever the hell they want, make whatever decision they want." (02:17)
On the practical effect of a gap year for Sorsby:
Sean: "He’ll be allowed to participate in the combine... teams are really going to want to interrogate, you know, the off-field stuff." (05:30–06:45)
On the test facing Sorsby this year:
Sean: "[For Sorsby,] proving that he’s not succumbing to gambling in a year like the one he’s got coming up might be... more impressive than anything he could do on a football field." (13:55)
On coach Joey McGuire and the likely docuseries spin:
Sean: "There's going to be a scene... of Joey McGuire just, like, crying... I just care about the kids so much." (15:53)
On quarterback leadership and stoicism: Seth: "Whether you’re a quarterback... or a queen or a king... you can’t be caught up in all of your own emotions when you’re being asked to lead." (20:13)
This episode delves into the intersection of off-field conduct and NFL policy, the unprecedented Sorsby saga, and what it means for the next draft cycle. With humor and sharp analysis, Payne and Pendergast paint a full picture: the NFL’s legal maneuvering, the long-term career implications for Sorsby, and how leadership and discipline are evaluated at the game's most crucial position. For Texans fans and NFL draft junkies alike, the episode contextualizes both the stakes and the stories to watch in the coming year, finishing with a pop-culture-infused look at how quarterbacks—and those who coach or cover them—are seen on and off the field.
For anyone who missed the episode, this summary captures all key debates, NFL implications, and the pop-culture moments that make Payne & Pendergast essential listening for Houston sports fans.