State of the Astros after the win last night.

Summary

Payne & Pendergast Podcast Summary

Episode: State of the Astros after the win last night
Date: July 28, 2026
Hosts: Brandon Scott (in for Sean Pendergast), Co-host (likely Seth Payne or regular analyst)

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the Houston Astros’ dramatic 6-4 comeback win, analyzes the key moments and performances that shaped the game, and debates the logic and implications of a controversial trade rumor around shortstop Jeremy Peña. Intermixed are characteristically candid takes on fan behavior, ownership philosophy, and the existential state of Major League Baseball.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Astros’ Chaotic Victory (01:45 – 08:13)

• Game Flow: Both hosts admit to tuning out early, presuming a loss was coming after a poor start by the Astros.
  • “If you missed it last night… we both decided to hang it up when it was 4 to 1.” — Brandon Scott (02:31)
• Pitching Woes & Heroics: Astros’ starter “Emi” (likely Ronel Blanco) is knocked out in the 1st, but Christian Javier redeems the bullpen with 5 shutout innings, 7 Ks, 0 BBs.
  • “Christian Javier was outstanding in this game for the Astros. That’s huge.” – Brandon Scott (03:20)
• Ninth Inning Madness: Hosts detail how the Angels unraveled, loading the bases on errors and intentional walks, then literally throwing the game away.
  • Key breakdown: Angels’ manager intentionally walks Yordan Alvarez to load the bases, then Astros batter gets hit by a pitch; several errors occur, opening the door for the Astros.
  • “It was also Christian, Javier … gave the Astros FIVE innings of shutout relief with SEVEN strikeouts, no walks.” – Brandon Scott (03:18)
  • “Did the Astros seize this game or did the Angels give it away?” – Brandon Scott (05:45)
• Comeback vs. Collapse: They debate whether the win was driven more by Astros skill or Angels incompetence.
  • “That error, specifically the ball going between the legs … that is the line of demarcation between comeback and collapse.” – Co-host (05:29)
• Memorable Meltdowns: Brandon Scott’s frustration at giving up on the game is humorously highlighted.
  • “In the rundown, I typed the sentence ‘F these A holes.’ … And then I woke up … and said, ‘Un-F these A holes, they won the game.’” – Brandon Scott (07:04, 08:08)

2. Jeremy Peña Trade Rumors (08:29 – 16:36)

• Chandler Rome’s Prediction: The Athletic’s Chandler Rome predicts the Astros could trade Jeremy Peña before the deadline, sparking strong reactions.
  • “His prediction: Jeremy Peña will get traded before the trade deadline.” – Brandon Scott (09:08)
• Debate: Realistic or Hot Take?
  • “That’s hot. Takey.” – Co-host (09:08)
  • Hosts break down the logic: is this rebuilding realism or surrender? Is Peña’s breakout increasing his value too much to pass up, or is it sabotage given the team’s infield core?
  • “If you take one of those guys away, then it feels like a waving of the white flag.” – Co-host (10:50)
• Stats & Impact: Peña’s hot streak is acknowledged (“hit 500… 13 for 26 with five dingers last week”), underlining both his value and trade allure.
• Fan & Ownership Mentality: Despite acknowledging that trading Peña might be the best long-term move, hosts agree owner Jim Crane’s aggressive approach (“the Brett Favre of MLB owners”) makes a midseason trade unlikely unless forced by circumstances.
  • “I think there’s a 0% chance they’re trading Jeremy Peña, because that’s not how Jim Crane is wired. He’s wired to go for it.” – Brandon Scott (13:47)
  • “Jim Crane, a gunslinger, I guess, in a way, because that’s what everybody called Brett Favre...” – Brandon Scott (15:43)

3. The Looming MLB Lockout & Trade Timing (16:17 – 18:36)

• Strategic Dilemma: With an MLB lockout considered inevitable, the decision to trade Peña now or risk losing him for nothing looms large.
  • “There’s apparently owners out there that think there’s not going to be a season next year.” — Brandon Scott (17:03)
  • “Does that make you more likely to hold on to Jeremy Peña and say ... let’s act like this season is the last one ever? Or ... jump the gun and trade him earlier than you would like?” – Co-host (17:14)

4. Astros Trades History & Player Development (18:21 – 18:45)

• Recent Trades: Reference to the Kyle Tucker trade and the uncertain return of Hayden Wesneski, a Tommy John recovery wild card.
  • “Don’t forget Texter. Don’t forget that Hayden Wesneski was part of that Kyle Tucker trade as well… He had Tommy John surgery.” – Brandon Scott (18:21)
  • “None of these Tommy John guys have worked out.” – Co-host (18:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “That error, specifically the ball going between the legs… that is the line of demarcation between comeback and collapse.” – Co-host (05:29)
• “In the rundown, I typed the sentence ‘F these A holes.’ … and then … said, ‘Un-F these A holes, they won the game.’” – Brandon Scott (07:04, 08:08)
• “I think there’s a 0% chance they’re trading Jeremy Peña, because that’s not how Jim Crane is wired. He’s wired to go for it.” – Brandon Scott (13:47)
• “Jim Crane, the Brett Favre of MLB.” – Brandon Scott (15:43)
• “If you take one of those guys away, then it feels like a waving of the white flag.” – Co-host (10:50)
• “There’s apparently owners out there that think there’s not going to be a season next year.” — Brandon Scott (17:03)
• “None of these Tommy John guys have worked out.” – Co-host (18:39)

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Digression: Pet Peeves About Babies in Restaurants (00:04 – 01:44 & 18:45 – 20:37)

Interspersed with Astros talk, the hosts riff on the etiquette and logistics of bringing babies to upscale restaurants, using a personal anecdote to spark listener interaction and honest banter.

• “The choke point for me is just don’t bring a baby to a restaurant and don’t bring them to a theater.” — Brandon Scott (20:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Astros’ Wild Win Breakdown: 01:45 – 08:13
• Peña Trade Debate & Ownership Mentality: 08:29 – 16:36
• Lockout Discussion & Its Impact: 16:17 – 18:36
• Astros Recent Trades & Injury Returns: 18:21 – 18:45
• Petty Rant on Babies in Restaurants: 00:04 – 01:44 & 18:45 – 20:37

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Tone & Style

Conversational, candid, and humorous with plenty of unfiltered sports takes and lively analogies. Hosts are unafraid to critique ownership or poke fun at their own fandom quirks.

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Conclusion

This episode is a balanced, insightful, and entertaining look at the Astros’ improbable win, the ramifications and realities of blockbuster roster moves, and the uncertain future of both the franchise and Major League Baseball. The hosts do an excellent job blending laughter, exasperation, fan empathy, and sharp baseball insight—exactly what Houston fans expect from Payne & Pendergast.

Transcript

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[Brandon Scott]

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[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

Maybe you're not a dog person. Well, don't go on dog night.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah, yeah, there you go. Bringing the dog. They also have those programs with kids and dogs, basically, but they got. They got kid programs where they let the kids go out there and run the bases. Yeah, but they don't let the kid. You know, when they don't let the kids run the bases in the seventh inning, you know, when the show's going on, they wait till either before or after the game and let the kids run around.

[Brandon Scott]

Good point.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

But not in the middle of the game now. Not during the seventh inning stretch.

[Brandon Scott]

No. Oh, my God.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

What are we doing?

[Brandon Scott]

All right, we'll read some of these texts in just a little bit. Oh, Byron, did I hijack the bump in here?

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

Oh, sorry about that.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

You're good.

[Brandon Scott]

Now you know how Ben Gary felt all those years. Here's what the final call of. Here's what the final call of the Astros game last night sounded like.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Broken back.

[Brandon Scott]

Hayter backs up, fields it throws in time. Astros win at 6 to 4. Not an easy play as Hayter navigated

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

the back of the mound, kept his feet, and threw out Grissom to end the game, Plumber. That was not a classic top half of the night hitting, but what a comeback by the Astros. Santa came early.

[Brandon Scott]

Well put, Plumber. Well put. If you missed it last night, and a lot of you probably did, a lot of you probably did the same thing that me and B. Scott did, which is that we both decided to hang it up when it was 4 to 1.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

You know, what, three, four innings into the game, something like that. If you missed. And I can see where a lot of you watched maybe the first inning, and you're like, here we go. E. My gets knocked out in the first inning again, gonna be one of these games.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Emi.

[Brandon Scott]

Yeah, he's E. Ming. He's pulling an email.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

He's pulling an E. Min. All over the mound.

[Brandon Scott]

Yes. Like, he's want to do E. Ming all over the place. He got knocked out in the first inning. Blue box came in in in the first inning and was able to steady things for a bit, left the bases. The Angels left the bases loaded. So the damage could have been far worse if blue ball hadn't come in. Blue ball ends up giving up a couple of runs. The story of this game was the ninth inning that we're about to outline here, but it was also Christian, Javier. Christian, Christian. Javier came in this game and gave the Astros five innings of shutout relief with seven strikeouts, no walks. Christian, Javier was outstanding in this game for the Astros. That's huge. I don't know what that does for Javier. As part, as far as the trust level goes, you know, we do the circle of trust from time to time on this show for the Astros, and I almost feel like all season long, the starting rotation has had its own sub circle of trust going on. I don't know if that outing last night gets Javier back into the starting rotation. Circle of trust. Look, the Astros may not have a choice here because you keep having guys get injured, like Spencer Arrogetti, whatever the case may be. So Javier was a big story. The other big story was the comeback in the ninth inning. Four to two, top of the ninth, and the Angels had to hit by pitches, one with the bases loaded. Keep in mind, the bases were loaded because the Angels manager intentionally walked Jordan Alvarez with runners on first and second.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yes.

[Brandon Scott]

Okay, so he pushed. He. The Angels manager voluntarily put the tying run at the time on third, but

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

he's also at that point, challenging his pitcher to get the next guy out,

[Brandon Scott]

who was Issac Paredes, who's been very hot lately.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah, but at the very least, don't pluck.

[Brandon Scott]

Don't beat him. And he plunked him. So they had to hit by pitches. There's a passed ball in there. There were two errors, awful errors. A ball through the legs, errors by the second baseman. That would have been a double play.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

That's the big one. Like, just right between your legs.

[Brandon Scott]

That was the gateway play of that inning. I didn't. You know, when he. He hits Taylor Trammel to open the inning. Okay, that's going to have the elite off guys get on all kinds of ways late in games. And then there's a pass ball, gets Taylor Tramel the second. All right. It's two run game at that point. It's not like the tying run just got into scoring position. Closers should be able to manage their way out of this thing. The. The double. The potential double play ball that rolled through Grisham, Chris Grisham's legs was. That was the one where you're watching and you go, oh, they. This. This could happen against a bad baseball team.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

You. You did mention, and this is not me trying to split hairs here, but you mentioned the comeback. I think it was that error, specifically the ball going between the legs. That was supposed to be a double play. That is the line of demarcation between comeback and collapse.

[Brandon Scott]

Oh, like, is. Is this so kind of the question, like, did the Astros seize this game or did the Angels give it away?

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah, and sometimes it's both. But I think that is what turned. What. What flipped the ledger in the collapse direction versus the come down. We'll take it either way.

[Brandon Scott]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Right. As a win is a win.

[Brandon Scott]

We need them all.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

But if we are going to split hairs here, that. That's where it officially, to me, becomes a collapse. Right there on that play.

[Brandon Scott]

Yes. Yeah. And there was. There was an inning. I'll tell you the inning. I decided to go to bed. It was when the Astros. It was when the Angels scored a couple more runs, when Jose Altuve fields a routine ground ball to second and just sails the throw. Oh, yeah, just sails the throw. And then the next guy up. I think it was the next guy up. It was the same inning because it drove in a run. He hits a pop up behind first base, and Christian Walker's just like casually jogging back there to go get it.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

And the thing drops in between him and Cam Smith.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

There were some issues with locating the. The fly balls for the. For the Astros specifically, because the. The parts of this game that I did see, I want to say Lamont Wade had a. Had a tough Time locating a fly ball as well. So this. This was a part of the game, within the game of not being able to see the fly balls. But, yeah, when you're talking about comedy of errors and what direction it could have gone in, the Astros kind of had their moment there as well.

[Brandon Scott]

That's when I went to bed. That is when in the rundown, I typed the sentence F these A holes. That's all I typed was, F these A holes. And then I woke up in the middle of the night to. To. To hit the bathroom, you know, 2:30 and 2:30 in the morning. There.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

And now you love these a hole.

[Brandon Scott]

Well, and I grabbed my phone like I normally do, like any insane person would at 2:30 in the morning, because that's what you need when you get up to go to the bathroom is to get hit with a bunch of sensory stuff that's gonna make you even more awake. Yeah. And unable to go back to sleep.

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[Brandon Scott]

But I was curious about the outcome of the Astros game, and I open it up, and I've got eight push notifications on Twitter from Mark Berman, who basically live tweets these games. It's fun as hell.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

We miss you, Mark. But not that much since you give us this much content.

[Brandon Scott]

This version. I like this Twitter version of Berman even better than the breaking news version of Berman.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Fair enough.

[Brandon Scott]

Because he's got opinions now.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

You know, he never put opinions out there before because he was a newsbreaker. He was a journalist.

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[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

He was a professional.

[Brandon Scott]

He's a professional now. He puts opinions out there. He's got strong opinions sometimes and still

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

mixes in, like, what we could call now aggregation. Yeah, he's quoting folks on the broadcast,

[Brandon Scott]

but I looked down, and Berman's like. Berman's quoting Blum and he's quoting Kevin Eschenfelder from the studio show on how the Angels gave this game away. I'm like, holy crap, they won. So I immediately went over to my iPad real quick before I went back to bed, and I said, on F these A holes, they won the game.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yes.

[Brandon Scott]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Take my F back.

[Brandon Scott]

Yeah, man.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah, Some with it.

[Brandon Scott]

Yeah. Chandler Rome, they did a. I felt kind of bad for Chandler about this yesterday because clearly this was one of those pieces on the Athletic where they were trying to get something click worthy out of all their beat writers. And they had to do a trade deadline prediction. Each of the beat writers for. For their team. And Chandler Rome is obviously, he's the Astros beat writer. And. And, you know, there's. And there's some in Here, predictions that aren't all that hot, Takey some that are. I truly wonder if this is just Chandler hot taking or if he really thinks this is going to happen. His prediction, Jeremy Pena will get traded before the trade deadline.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

That's hot. Take it.

[Brandon Scott]

He says the Astros will recognize their myriad of issues, acknowledge their long odds of making a meaningful run in the playoffs, and reinvigorate their farm system by trading. Jeremy Pena talks about them coming close to a contract extension last year, but then he hired Scott Boris. And then the Astros have shown they're willing to move on from guys before. Now. Granted, Kyle Tucker was in the off season, not in season. Kyle Tucker did not signify a waving of the white flag because of when he was traded. Yeah, he was traded in the off season. You actually got major leaguers back. I know Cam Smith is the crown jewel of that trade, or we hope he is eventually.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

So far, has been east.

[Brandon Scott]

Isaac Pareto has been the best player from that trade.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

But Cam Smith has shown signs as to. Okay, I could see why they thought this was a good idea.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Highest upside guy.

[Brandon Scott]

Yeah, but. But that was in December or whenever it was. This would be a. This would be the Astros saying, we, we don't think we can win this thing this year. We have no chance.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

It would feel that way. It could also be that. Look, we feel like we could replace Jeremy Pena both as a leadoff hitter and that somebody could come in here and play respectable shortstop for us defensively. But that would be a tough sale. Like they. They could try to sell it and they might even actually believe it. But it would certainly feel like, to your point, feel like a waving of the white flag. One of your best players. You're already, as I point out all the time, you're already a top heavy and infield heavy lineup. Right. So all. Most of your production comes at the top of the lineup for which Jeremy Pen is the leadoff hitter. Yeah. And it's infield heavy for which Jeremy Pena is a shortstop. And you're trying to get some more from everybody else. If you take one of those guys away, then it feels like a waving of the white flag.

[Brandon Scott]

Yep, it definitely does. But Jeremy Pena is doing everything he can to make himself a very, very intriguing asset to teams right now.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

So here's the way.

[Brandon Scott]

By the way, we haven't mentioned this player of the week for last week.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

That's right. That was an headline.

[Brandon Scott]

Jeremy Pena we got. We were so swept up in the nature of last night's game, Jeremy. Jeremy pena, who hit 500. Last week he was 13 for 26 with five dingers.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

All right, so here's where I met with the Jeremy Pena.

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you get your podcast. Thing. Because I feel like objectively we can acknowledge that trading Jeremy Pena, and especially if they're not going to pay him and none of us believe that they are trading Jeremy Pena is was it is what's best for the long term, for the long term viability of the franchise. It is best to trade Jeremy Pena, especially if you're not going to pay him, for the long term viability of the Astros franchise. But I think I decided over the weekend as they're handling business against the Chicago White Sox, that right now I think I care more about the moment and the short term viability of the franchise because I don't know when they're going to play baseball again. I'm not as concerned about the future of the Astros, true. Because I don't really know about the future of baseball as a whole or in general. So why not just go all in on the potential of and I'm not saying this is a great Astros team by any stretch, but. But there ain't no great teams in the American League. Like the idea that you could still go out there with this middling team and still have a chance at a pennant with Jeremy Pena and then be like the last American League champion or if they go even further than that and win the World Series, be the last champion for, I don't know, six months, eight months, nine months, a year, or longer or however long. I'm intrigued by That I just haven't

[Brandon Scott]

gotten to a point where I'm emotional one way or the other on it because I don't think they're going to do it. I think there's a 0% chance they're trading Jeremy Pena because that's not how Jim Crane is wired. He's wired to go for it. He's not wired to concede and people will argue the Kyle Tucker trade again, I think that happening in the off season and honestly feeling like a trade that the Astros have won to this point. Yeah. Is, you know, that felt like a practical thing to do because we also know another thing. Jim Crane is not going to give out the types of contracts that Kyle Tucker was looking for.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

So it's the irresistible force meets the immovable object. You got to do one or the other or let him walk for nothing.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Right.

[Brandon Scott]

And they've let too many guys walk for nothing. To me, that was self awareness. Knowing that your minor league system cannot sustain you, you got to go bring in stuff from the outside. That's the spirit behind these talks with Pena, too. I just don't think. I just don't think they're going to do it. And I. I don't mind it because I think the same mentality, maybe some degree of delusion as well, but I think that same mentality that has them thinking, hey man, we're going to be a buyer here, we're not going to be a seller, is the same mentality that takes the teams that you already have that are good and turns them into World Series teams. When you're willing to make big moves like that, like Verlander, like Granke, like Gear Cole in the off season, after 2017, when that. When they're already a World Series champ, they made a trade for Garrett Cole. Yeah. That's the type of mentality. So if I've got to live with both, I'd rather live with the owner, who is a little delusional in times like this that's going to take the really good teams and put it over the top. If I were to make a football comparison, it's probably how Packer fans had to deal with Brett Favre back in the day. Brett Favre, at one point, I believe, led the NFL in career touchdowns and career interceptions.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

He did.

[Brandon Scott]

And so that's, you know, Jim Crane, a gunslinger, I guess, in a way, because that's what everybody called Brett Favre,

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Jim Crane, the Brett Favre of mlb.

[Brandon Scott]

A little bit. A little bit like, you know what, sometimes you end up with Justin Verlander. Sometimes you end up with Jose Abreu.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

Sometimes you wind up with Jeff Luno. Sometimes you wind up with being a co GM with Jeff Bagwell and Reggie Jackson for a little while.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Dims the brakes.

[Brandon Scott]

But I think it's safe to say, like, the balance sheet of Jim Crane's ownership here has been outstanding. Yeah, the balance sheet. I want two World Series championships. So that's kind of where I'm at with the whole Pena thing. I. I'm not. I'm not strong one way or the other, just. Cause I don't think it's happening. I feel like we're. I would be wasting calories worrying one way or the other when I don't think he's going anywhere.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

I like your point about the Astros in some ways playing defense by not giving him away to another contender. Jeremy Pena being him. Like, I. I get that. I do wonder, though, kind of going back to the point of the existential crisis of the league overall, MLB overall. I wonder if this situation, because it's very similar to the Kyle Tucker situation, but I wonder if the difference is there potentially not being an off season? They trade Kyle Tucker in the off season. Cause obviously you don't want to make yourself less competitive during the year, and I don't imagine that they want to do that now. Right. But the difference between now and then is, is that there was an off season to trade Kyle Tucker.

[Brandon Scott]

You're talking about the lockout.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

The lockout. The potential. The. The potential and what we all think is a looming and unavoidable at this point lockout.

[Brandon Scott]

Did you see some of the reports yesterday? There's apparently owners out there that think there's not going to be a season next year. Yeah, well, they think there's going to be no games played next year.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

And that's.

[Brandon Scott]

And that's what I'm talking about saying to me.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

So are you more likely to. Does it. Does that make you more likely to hold on to Jeremy Pena and say, hey, we're going to go all in for kind of like how I was saying earlier, I rather just go all in and act like this season is the last one ever? Yeah. Or does the fact that there's not an off season to trade Jeremy Pena and, you know, you need to either pay him or get something for him, does that mean that you have to jump the gun and trade him earlier than you normally would like? Which side of that balancing act is Jim Crane gonna ultimately fall on?

[Brandon Scott]

Someone said the Crane Special, four to five years, 140, 250 million. No more than that.

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[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

I think that horse has left the barn.

[Brandon Scott]

They offered, well, the reported offer to. Before he signed with. Before he signed with Boris.

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[Brandon Scott]

Was something somewhere. It was like a five year deal somewhere in the neighborhood of like 120 million.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

I think that's right.

[Brandon Scott]

So, you know, somewhere around, you know, 22, 24 million.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Which sounds sort of like the Carlos Correa deal. Proposed deal that would have been years before him.

[Brandon Scott]

Yeah. Or the Bregman deal was six years, 156 a couple years ago.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Very familiar numbers there.

[Brandon Scott]

Don't forget texter. Don't forget that. That Hayden Wisneski was part of that Kyle Tucker trade as well.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

We haven't forgotten. He's just been injured.

[Brandon Scott]

He had Tommy John surgery. Yeah, No, I know. People are going to point out he's coming back. He's going to come back pretty soon. I know.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah, we'll see him.

[Brandon Scott]

None of these Tommy John guys have worked out.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah, yeah. Stay tuned. But yeah, to Sean's point, like we're not about to hang our hat on the Tommy John guy.

[Brandon Scott]

Let me clarify something here. Someone says, nice knowing you, Sean. The women are going to be all over you for the breastfeeding and public take. I'd only be more worried if you had said something bad about Taylor Swift. Again, let me maybe be clear about this because I laid out the entire, the, the chronology of what happened. It was a couple who brought a baby in a stroller into a nice steakhouse. That's the choke point for me right there.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

That's the issue I have. And the restaurant's hands may have been tied. I don't know what the legalities are of it. I don't think it's illegal for them to bring in. Now. Restaurants have policies about things. I have no idea. Clearly this restaurant had a policy where they allowed this couple to bring the baby in. And then two things happened. The husband grabbed the baby and put it on its shoulder and walked circles around the table to calm the baby down, to get it to sleep.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

For like 15 minutes.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah. A normal thing to do at your home.

[Brandon Scott]

Yeah. And then handed the baby to his wife or girlfriend, the mother of the baby, presumably to breastfeed it at the table. She put a blanket over her while doing this. Let me be very clear. The breastfeeding is way down the list of things where I'm like, I don't know if that should be happening here in a nice restaurant. I was way more bothered by the father treating the restaurant like it was the kids nursery. And at the table next to us, just walking circles around his table for 15 minutes. That was rude.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Yeah.

[Brandon Scott]

Like the breastfeeding things. The breastfeeding thing. I again, the choke point for me is just don't bring a baby to a restaurant and don't bring him to a theater. We have people texting that in. Like the worst of the people that bring crying babies to a theater and then don't leave the theater with the baby. Yeah, those are bad people. I'm just going to say it. They're bad people.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

One of the most common examples of this is like in a church, you know, and I know this is not a church, but baby starts crying in church, you go out and step into the.

[Brandon Scott]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Into the lobby area.

[Brandon Scott]

Yeah. Or they got a little like a crying room.

[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

Right. That's a normal thing to do. Not sit there in front of everybody and let the baby cry.

[Brandon Scott]

Yep. All right, Payne and Pendergast on a Tuesday. Brandon Scott in for Seth Payne. Couple segments here and then we'll talk to the guys on in the Loop, see what Lopez has to say about this all important topic. And Reggie, but Lopez being the grandfather and father on that show, I'm very intrigued. The season win totals out for the Rockets. Boy, was the B Scott and Pendergast compass off on this one. What do we think over under for this season win total? We'll tell you what it is coming up next.

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[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

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[Brandon Scott]

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[Co-host (possibly Seth Payne or a regular analyst)]

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[Brandon Scott]

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