Takeaways from the Texans Training Camp Practice

Summary

Payne & Pendergast: Takeaways from Texans Training Camp Practice

Podcast: Payne & Pendergast
Hosts: Seth Payne & Sean Pendergast
Date: July 30, 2026
Location: Live from Texans Training Camp

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Episode Overview

This sharp, high-energy episode finds Seth and Sean broadcasting live from the first days of Houston Texans Training Camp. The discussion focuses mainly on the Texans' offense under C.J. Stroud, team energy, off-season contract chatter, key injuries, and a look at potential roster moves—specifically, the potential for a Jadeveon Clowney reunion. Astros baseball and their return to .500 occupy a secondary role, providing context for the city’s sports mood.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Atmosphere and Opening Banter (01:22–04:50)

• Training Camp Vibes: The excitement of camp is tangible, with both hosts playfully referencing classic training camp sounds, humidity issues with their equipment, and the challenges of broadcasting outdoors in Houston summer.
• Astros Humor: The Astros finally back at .500 is a running joke—“They can look down their noses at all the sub-500 teams” (02:00) as Sean quips. Both hosts reminisce on the team's ups and downs and the peculiar local sports climate.

2. Texans Training Camp Early Impressions

• Offensive vs Defensive Rhythm (04:50): Seth observed promising "back and forth" between the Texans’ offense and defense. The operation on offense is crisper than last year, with fewer play stoppages and visible second-year familiarity:
  “The offense looked like they really are going up there and like it’s their actual second year in a system and CJ is in full command... using pre snap motion... running plays and sometimes successfully running plays. That was good.”—Seth (04:50)
• Will Anderson & Kamari Lassiter Flashes: Will Anderson stood out with backfield plays; Kamari Lassiter snagged an interception, demonstrating readiness in the DB group (06:38).

3. C.J. Stroud: Day One Performance (06:37–08:53)

• Command at QB:
  “He certainly looks like he’s the starting quarterback. He’s a starting NFL quarterback.”—Seth (07:31)
• The Bad Interception: They dissected Stroud’s risky jump pass over the middle and praised the defense for disguising looks:
  “...Kamari Lassiter to be lurking there. And that’s good... you’ve got five veteran defensive backs that can put a little bit more on their plate in terms of disguise.”—Seth (07:57)
• Intensity and Energy: Scrappy moments in practice are highlighted, with minor scuffles pointing to a competitive camp atmosphere (09:01).

4. C.J. Stroud Contract Extension Talk (10:06–16:43)

• Both Nick Caserio and Stroud commented publicly on contract negotiations—an unusual openness from Texans leadership:
  • Nick Caserio on Stroud’s offseason:
    “He’s had a good attitude. He’s been consistent. He’s got the right mindset. I’d say we’ve definitely had productive conversations over the course of the spring”—Nick Caserio (10:45)
  • Stroud on the process:
    “I’m focused on ball… just holding my bargain down on the football side… letting them handle it and seems like everything is going great.” —C.J. Stroud (13:59)
• Market Dynamics: The hosts break down NFL QB contracts, debating if Stroud should get top-of-market money now or if Houston will try to get ahead of a coming market spike.
• Negotiation Atmosphere:
  “We got nothing for six months on this. All of a sudden we got the quarterback saying it’s going great and the GM saying, they’re talking.” —Sean (15:02)

Memorable Quotes:

• Seth, on Stroud’s phrasing:
  “I’m not going to be comfortable with him getting a new deal until he figures out the saying, hold up my end of the bargain. That’s the second time he’s botched that… He’s holding down his bargain.” (14:28)
• Sean, on negotiation odds:
  “I got CJ getting a contract right now in the Pendergast Sportsbook at -130. I think it’s a greater than 50/50 chance.” (15:29)

5. National Perspective: Adam Schefter on Stroud’s Extension (19:12)

• Schefter tells McAfee: “The organization is absolutely behind him and… would like to get him re-signed… doesn't sound like they've made a whole lot of progress yet, but I think it's something the Texans are going to keep trying to work at.”—Adam Schefter (19:12)
• Hosts’ Take: They parse whether it’s the Texans or Stroud’s camp pushing harder, and whether “going great” simply means “negotiations are cordial.”

6. Texans Injury Updates (23:02–28:58)

• Jalen Noel injury:
  “He's got a little bit of an issue with his finger… probably be a few weeks, kind of see how he progresses.” —Nick Caserio (23:02) Both hosts are reassured but cautious.
• Tank Dell status:
  “He’s not on the PUP list… you won’t see him practice [yet]. He’s got some ramp up work that he’s still going to do.” —Nick Caserio (25:38)
• Depth at WR: Importance of keeping young wideouts healthy and practiced, referencing last year’s slow development curves (24:08).
• Caution with rehabbing stars: Praising the team’s caution:
  “Being super, super careful about it is... the smart thing to do right now.”—Seth (28:05)

7. Potential Return: Jadeveon Clowney to Houston? (29:11–31:45)

• Hosts endorse a possible Clowney return, emphasizing his utility against the run and for depth, with no baggage about his draft status: “He’s a really productive player... makes a huge impact in the run game. He does a lot of the things that DeMeco Ryans really likes in his defensive linemen… And just because he’s not a cornerstone franchise player, who the hell cares?...” —Seth (30:19)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Caserio’s Forward-Thinking Approach:
  “Of all the GMs in the NFL, the one that is not afraid of doing things that reset a market... Nick Caserio is not afraid to do it.” —Sean (12:49)

• C.J. Stroud’s Status in Practice:
  “If I go out and pretend I don’t know anything about these teams whatsoever… he certainly looks like he’s the starting quarterback.”—Seth (07:31)

• On Training Camp Energy:
  “There’s going to be some fights this year… you want to see a little bit of that juice.”—Seth (09:01–10:06)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:22 – Show live from Texans training camp, setting the scene
• 04:50 – Early camp impressions: Offense vs defense, CJ Stroud’s readiness
• 06:37 – Offense looked more competent than last year
• 08:53 – Interception and responses; competitive chippiness in camp
• 10:45 – Caserio’s comments on productive contract negotiations
• 13:59 – C.J. Stroud on focusing on football, letting agents handle the contract
• 19:12 – Adam Schefter’s report confirms ongoing talks, but little progress
• 23:02 – Nick Caserio updates Jalen Noel’s finger injury
• 25:38 – Explanation of Tank Dell’s “ramp-up” protocol
• 29:11 – Hosts react to Jadeveon Clowney interest
• 34:39–39:56 – Headlines and Astros talk: Hitting .500, George Springer rumors

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode is upbeat, packed with locker room banter, snappy sports analysis, and friendly ribbing—especially around cliches and contract talk (“hold my bargain down”). There’s a sense of cautious optimism about the Texans’ cohesion and improved offensive operation, cautious realism about health at skill positions, and curiosity about where the CJ Stroud extension will land. The possible Clowney reunion is met with enthusiasm and practical analysis, while the Astros’ vibes are light and tinged with nostalgia.

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Summary for New Listeners

• Texans’ camp is off to a lively, competitive start—with a notably improved offense and growing chemistry.
• C.J. Stroud’s contract negotiations are finally, openly alive, with both coach and QB saying talks are “productive” and “going great”—but not quite “close.”
• Key injuries (Jalen Noel, Tank Dell) are being managed carefully, with optimism about their medium-term outlook.
• Potential signing of Jadeveon Clowney is endorsed for depth and attitude.
• Astros back to .500 sparks optimism and jokes; hosts muse on trade rumors and team leadership.

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For a full, detailed breakdown of Texans training camp developments—including behind-the-scenes process, player chemistry, contract speculation, and roster moves—this episode is essential listening for Houston sports fans looking to catch the city’s sports pulse as the NFL prepares for kickoff.

Transcript

[Seth Payne]

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[Seth Payne]

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[Sean Pendergast]

Great day. Great day.

[Seth Payne]

Oh, give me some juice, baby. Oh, yeah, let's do it.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, let's do it. The open to this show hits a little different at training camp time. It hits a little different because I think that d' Ameco going. Great day. Great day. Give me some juice, baby. I think is a training camp cut from back in the day that has survived four years now because d' Ameco Ryan's is still the head coach.

[Seth Payne]

It was. Who would have not. Who would have thought back then that on July 30th we'd be opening the show not just during a training camp, but with an Astros team that's officially a 500 base.

[Sean Pendergast]

Back to 500. Yeah. They can look down their noses at all the sub 500 teams.

[Seth Payne]

Never thought we'd see the day where the Astros would Would battle it out and be a 500 baseball 55 and 55.

[Sean Pendergast]

Welcome in, everybody. Sean Pendergast, Seth Payne. We're live at Texans training camp. What's wrong?

[Seth Payne]

It's this damn Houston phenomenon that happens where the condensation. Oh, no, your computer was in air conditioning and now it's not. It's completely. It will. It will not function because there's A. Because there's condensation all over my computer.

[Sean Pendergast]

Take all the nap.

[Seth Payne]

I got it.

[CJ Stroud]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Here you go. This is why I didn't accept the ambassadorship to Guam. Just the, The. The issues with humidity.

[Sean Pendergast]

You talked about that your whole life. I really did.

[Seth Payne]

I studied up on it and everything, you know. Damn. There are certain things I wouldn't bend on, though, Sean. There are certain policy points that the, that the president, who was president at the time, said, Seth, listen, you got.

[Sean Pendergast]

You're a man of principle.

[Seth Payne]

I don't.

[Sean Pendergast]

Unflinchingly rigid.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Do we have an ambassador to Guam?

[Sean Pendergast]

I have no idea.

[Seth Payne]

US Terrorists. I have no idea.

[Sean Pendergast]

You know what?

[Seth Payne]

I can tell the next 10 minutes talking about that.

[Sean Pendergast]

You know, I could tell someone got some sleep last night.

[Seth Payne]

Oh, really? You. Oh, me?

[Nick Casario]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

Had energy yesterday. You did.

[Sean Pendergast]

No, I know, but you're.

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You're.

[Seth Payne]

I did. I got some sleep last night. It was. There was. You know, yesterday was fun because it was training camp. Yep. I was. Because I'd had some flight delays. For those of you missed it. I got 90 minutes of sleep and it was kind of hard to be affable around all these sweaty people.

[Sean Pendergast]

I thought you did fine, all things considered.

[Seth Payne]

Well, the Astros being 500 helps a lot too. Absolutely. I'm gonna be brutally honest with you. I fell asleep at 7pm last night. I woke up to the news that the Astros were.500.

[Sean Pendergast]

I woke up. This is three straight nights. Because I don't. If it starts at 8:40, I ain't staying up for the whole game most of the time. So this is three straight nights of waking up to, you know, 3:30 in the morning. I think I'll check the phone. And 12 Mark Berman tweets that get pushed notified to me.

[Seth Payne]

Berman's the hardest working young cub reporter in sports.

[Sean Pendergast]

He is. He's every bit as hardworking as he was when he was in actually active journalism.

[Seth Payne]

Kid's got gumption.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's. He's got moxie is what he's got, Seth. And he's got.

[Seth Payne]

And he's got a lot of people who are down on Gen Z, but this Berman character, I think he's got gumption.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's got chutzpah, he's got moxie, and the kid's got. Want to. Dare I say, you add all that up and he's got the it factor. This kid's got the it factor.

[Seth Payne]

This Berman. Do it. Berman.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. All right, so let's get to. Let's get to the heart of the matter here with the Ash. We'll get to. The astros got back to.500 last night. That's good news. One game out of the division, one game out in the wild card. The Rangers play tonight. So the Astros could enter this series this weekend against the Rangers a half game out of first place. Yeah, that's exciting. So we got that training camp yesterday. Overall, feel how you feel about what you saw.

[Seth Payne]

I think if I had to sum it up in one thing that I thought was very encouraging was that there was some back and forth with the offense and the defense. Not that they're. They didn't have any, you know, periods where they were going to where the offense was trying to go on a drive or anything. But I thought the offense landed some punches, the defense landed some punches. The crispness of the operation on offense is what they talked about during OTAs and minicamps. So that was really what I, more than anything wanted to see is okay. The offense looked like they really are going up there and like it's their actual second year in a system and CJ is in full command. You don't have a lot of stoppages or anything because they're coming up to the line using pre snap motion and running plays and sometimes successfully running plays. That was good. So far, so good. The pads don't come on until Monday, so.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. How did Nick Casario make you feel about the work we're doing out here Wednesday through Saturday?

[Seth Payne]

This is like a tantric lovemaking training camp for the first. Well, we're going to really take our time and explore each other's bodies out here until Monday and then we're getting into it.

[Sean Pendergast]

Because you always put that on the schedule. You know, you schedule it. You know, all right, guys, I'm going to have this many days of kind of leading into it. No, but he said right out of the shoot, he's like, training camp really begins when you put the pads on. That'll be on Monday. I disagree. I think there's plenty of stuff to see out here yesterday in the next three days that we'll be bringing, especially

[Seth Payne]

in the passing game. And that's really where the, you know, when you look at this offense and you got to try to kind of look at when they're in their full team periods, there's not going to be a full pass rush because there's no pads on. But there were just so many times last year in training camp, whether they were wearing pads or not, the offense just couldn't even get a snap off. And that. That wasn't the case yesterday.

[Sean Pendergast]

No.

[Seth Payne]

I mean, there were. Look, Will Anderson made a couple of nice plays in the backfield, but it's going to happen. Right, right, right. Kamari Lasseter had an interception. That's going to happen. Going back to what Aaron Rodgers said last week, you want your quarterbacks throwing interceptions and incompletions in practice, that's the time to do it. So I think that, by and large, there were some really nice throws from CJ There were some throws that I think he wish he would have back, but that was a. I leave day one of training camp feeling better about the offense than I did last year. During training camp.

[Sean Pendergast]

How are you feeling about C.J. individually, I think.

[Seth Payne]

Okay. That's right. If you try to go out and

[Sean Pendergast]

this is going to matter in a couple minutes when we play the audio from yesterday.

[Seth Payne]

Right, right. If you go out. I always try to think about at training camp, if I go out and pretend I don't know anything about these teams whatsoever, you know, and what would my impression be? I would be. My impression would be. Oh, okay.

[Caller or Guest]

Yep.

[Seth Payne]

That he certainly looks like he's the starting quarterback.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's a starting NFL quarterback. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that that was the general consensus. I thought yesterday, other than the intercept. The interception was a bad interception.

[Seth Payne]

The interception, he tried to throw a

[Sean Pendergast]

jump pass over the middle across his body.

[Seth Payne]

But also, given where it happened on the field, there were a couple things that are intriguing about that because, you know, I didn't see where Kamari Lasseter had lined up initially, but the interception was in the middle of the field.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

So, you know, Kamari wasn't out on the boundary. There was whatever coverage they were in. I'm guessing that CJ was surprised by it a little bit and didn't expect Kamari Lasseter to be lurking there. And that's good because, okay, defensively, one thing that we've talked about is, you know, they're very. They keep things very simple and vanilla. Sometimes that gets overly characterized or mischaracterized, that they don't disguise or anything. They do. They're just. They're not as heavy on it as other teams are. But I think that's one of the wrinkles the defense is going to start adding more of this year, especially now that they have Reed Blankenship back there, is that you've got five veteran defensive backs that can put a little bit more plate. Put a little bit more on their plate in terms of disguise and wrinkles in the defense, but still Play aggressively downhill and fast. And I think you're going to see more of that from the defense. And I suspect that's what happened on that play. I'll talk to John Harris about it.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep. The thing I liked about that play was afterwards, when Foster Moreau decided to tackle Kamari Lasseter.

[Seth Payne]

I did.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, that was fun.

[Seth Payne]

I just said, you know, got a little chippy. I went. I got. I got. My eyes got bright, and I turned around and I said to the first person I could see, oh, there's going to be some fights this year. And then Wexler said to me, like, well, good. And I. And I took offense to it. I'm going to talk to him about it today because he said it to me as if I had said, like, oh, no, there's going to be fights.

[Sean Pendergast]

Oh, like you were some kind of Mary.

[Seth Payne]

Like, he had to try to tell me, like, hey, hey, listen, listen, Seth, it's all right. If there's some fights out here, that's plenty good. I was like, where would it. Where did I seem like a nervous Nelly and saying, there's going to be fights.

[Sean Pendergast]

Drawing battle lines between the two radio stations. There you go. All right.

[Reporter or Analyst]

So.

[Sean Pendergast]

So I would.

[Seth Payne]

There will be fights.

[Sean Pendergast]

There will be fights.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

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Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, when you're swarmy, that's what happens.

[Seth Payne]

Like, back in the day. Not that back in the day, everything was good, but there are a lot of coaches that would kind of almost get nervous if there weren't fights during training camp, because you're like, what the hell are these guys? You know, do these guys have any juice to them? A lot of that's fallen by the wayside because coaches understand exactly, like, okay, look, guy breaks his hand in a fight, and then we're screwed.

[Sean Pendergast]

Stupid.

[Seth Payne]

So you got to try to tamp it down. But you want to see a little bit of that juice.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay. I think you and I were hearing some of the same things yesterday in the press conferences. Specifically. Yeah, definitely. Specifically when it came to C.J. stroud's contractual situation.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Which is, as it turns out, still ongoing. It's not dead. It's not just two sides who've hung up the phone and said, see you in February of 2027. This was Nick Casario at the. Towards the beginning of yesterday's press conference, after he gave all the injury updates, which we'll get to that as well,

[Seth Payne]

Aaron Wilson asked him a question about where CJ Stands overall and contractually.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Stroud's off season, and here's what n. Had to Say, yeah, he had a

[Nick Casario]

really good off season. It's probably the best offseason he's had since he's been here. He's had a good attitude. He's been consistent. He's got the right mindset. I'd say we've definitely had productive conversations over the course of the spring. So, I mean, there's a possibility that something could come to fruition. So we'll work through it and, you know, see what happens.

[Sean Pendergast]

Okay, so productive conversations over the course of the spring, that's the first we've heard, I think, of productive conversations.

[Seth Payne]

Right.

[Sean Pendergast]

Or at least conversations that had an adjective in front of it at all.

[Seth Payne]

It's been radio silence, by and large. And the part that gets interesting from the team perspective is, obviously. All right, well, you've had productive conversations. What kind of a number are we talking about here? The quarterback contract scenario in the NFL or the landscape is that salaries, by and large, have been stuck at 55 million for a few years now, with a couple exceptions, everybody except Dak Prescott and Patrick Mahomes are making around 55 million or less. And this would seem to be the year that there's probably going to finally be a bust out.

[Sean Pendergast]

Caleb Williams, Drake May and Jaden Daniels are all eligible for contracts next year.

[Seth Payne]

And Bo Nix.

[Sean Pendergast]

Right, and Bo Nix as well. And Bo Nix.

[Seth Payne]

And then you've got other guys like C.J. stroud who would still, theoretically, you know, if he doesn't have a new contract yet, Lamar Jackson's up for one. So next year is probably the year after a couple years of stagnancy, that it explodes.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep.

[Seth Payne]

And is that 65 million a year? Is that 70 million a year? We know that Casario likes to get out in front of these things. He sees where the market is going and he says, all right, look, look, we'll buy now and it'll be cheaper later. That's where I just wonder, with Mulligett and CJ Stroud are the conversations kind of, you know, look, hey, the market's going here, 65 million. And Nick might be saying, yeah, it's going there. But those are also. Those are deals where teams feel really good about their quarterback. Yes, we'd like to. Right now. We might look at it as a bargain if we sign you for 55 million and we'd be comfortable with it, but we don't feel 100% comfortable going to 65 million.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's a fascinating dynamic because of all the GMs in the NFL, the one that is not afraid of Doing things that reset a market that other GMs won't do. Even little things.

[Seth Payne]

Guaranteeing second rounders come.

[Sean Pendergast]

That's what I was just going to say. Even guaranteeing Jaden Higgins his entire contract, when that had never been done at the top of the second round before. Nick Casario is not afraid to do it. He did it with the guy that was drafted one pick after CJ Stroud a few months ago in Will Anderson. He did it with Derek Stingley Jr. Who happens to be a David Mulligetta client. Yeah. So there's connective tissue here with CJ and the. Specifically those two examples of guys who have literally been given top of the market contracts at their position. CJ Is a bigger risk than those guys right now as a player. That's just flat out the case. So there's that Caserio audio. Add to that. This is what CJ Stroud, very first question right out of the shoot, I think it was Aaron Wilson again asked about contract talks and how you handle those amidst training camp.

[Nick Casario]

Yeah, you take all the information in and just try to make the best decision possible. Have an understanding of what the market is, what are the dynamics.

[Seth Payne]

It's not necessarily about.

[Sean Pendergast]

No. Byron, Byron, Byron. Shroud one. Keep your phone nearby. Stroud one Here.

[CJ Stroud]

Byron, I think, you know, everything has been great. You know, I'm focused on ball, trying to do what. Trying to just hold my bargain down on just the football side and do what I can, you know, and what I should be doing as a, as a quarterback of this team. So I'm letting them handle it and seems like everything is going great.

[Sean Pendergast]

Going great.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

At the very end, going great was the answer to productive conversations in Knick's cut.

[Seth Payne]

I'm not going to be comfortable with him getting a new deal until he figures out the saying, hold up my end of the bargain. That's the second time he's botched that.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's holding down his bargain.

[Seth Payne]

Seth, what did, what did he say during the spring? Said, I've held my bargain up on that. Yeah, I think the fact that he said that it's going great. This is notable just because this is way more conversation about contracts by the team and by the players than we hardly ever get from the Texans. That's, there's, there's usually there.

[Sean Pendergast]

We got nothing for six months on this. All of a sudden we got the quarterback saying it's going great and the GM saying, they're talking.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, they're usually deaf mutes on this stuff and they're Not. It's like Helen Keller had a miracles miracle.

[Sean Pendergast]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

The.

[Seth Payne]

I don't. So what do you. I guess for all spring long I've said, like, I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think it's going to happen. I was trying to figure out yesterday where I am on that now. Am I 50 or if the scales tip towards where I think it's actually going to happen.

[Sean Pendergast]

You know the language I speak, my love language is odds and gambling. I got CJ Getting a contract right now in the Pendergast Sportsbook at -130. I think it's a greater than 50, 50 chance that there's a contract in the works for him.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. And. Okay, now let me ask you this, okay. If there is a deal, is it a $55 million a year deal or is it one that kind of resets the market for young corals?

[Sean Pendergast]

I think it's closer to 55. I don't think. I don't think the Texans would give him. I don't think they'd reset the market with cj.

[Seth Payne]

Those other.

[Sean Pendergast]

I don't think those other guys deserve to reset.

[Seth Payne]

Those other guys we've talked about are top 10 players, like established, affirmed, arguably top three. You know, they're all number one or two. Right? Like, yeah, I should say top five players in their position. Yeah, that. And CJ just simply isn't that right now. So I don't. The quarterback is always treated differently and handled differently. But yeah, as a team, I think there's got to be a certain point where you say, yes, we get it and we know quarterbacks are a different scenario. We like everything you're doing, but we just, we can't. We can't, as a signal to the rest of the team, say that like, hey, all you have to do is be, you know, average or slightly above average and we'll, we'll bend over backwards for you.

[Sean Pendergast]

Let's play one more here because this kind of adds up now. We were kind of poking fun at Schefter the few times he was alluding to both sides wanting to get a contract done a couple times this offseason on the heels. And Byron, we're going to skip down to Schefter here, if you're listening. Byron, we're going to skip down to Schefter on the heels of what Nick said yesterday because I don't think CJ had met with the media yet when, when schefter went on McAfee's show Schefter had this to say about a possible

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[Sean Pendergast]

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[Reporter or Analyst]

The organization is absolutely behind him and the organization would like to get him re signed to a contract. And even though he did not walk in with the swagger and the aura that people are looking for, the Texans are behind the guy like he's their quarterback moving forward. And I think they're going to try to move ahead with a contract extension this summer. And again, Nick Casario, the Texans general manager came out this morning and said that they've had conversations they want to get that deal done. It doesn't sound like they've made a whole lot of progress yet, but I think it's something the Texans are going to keep trying to work at. And, boy, I had no idea that walking into a training facility would cause all kinds of reactions like that.

[Seth Payne]

So, for those of you don't know, he's talking about the video from a couple days ago.

[Sean Pendergast]

They were clowning it for the minute or so before they had that conversation.

[Seth Payne]

So that wasn't like a. Metaphorically. He didn't walk in with the swag. He was literally. It was literal.

[Nick Casario]

Yeah. Yes.

[Sean Pendergast]

For those who haven't seen it, there's a video of CJ Walking into the facility where he looks like he's in fifth grade, backpack over both shoulders and whatnot. I think what's interesting there with what Schefter had to say is at least the way I'm interpreting it is he. He makes it sound like it's more coming from the Texan side than CJ Side in that cut that I heard right there.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

He said the Texans are trying to

[Seth Payne]

get something done, but then he also said that, you know, there hasn't been a lot of progress.

[Nick Casario]

Right.

[Seth Payne]

So that's. I don't. Do you take C.J. saying that? That. What is. How did. C.J. he said it's going great.

[Sean Pendergast]

He said it's going great. I. Look, I don't know who to believe. I just. I. I think the upshot of all it appears there's talks going on, the fact that C.J.

[Seth Payne]

said it's going great, it could just be interpreted as like, okay, they're having congenial discussions. Or it could be that, all right, we're not that far apart, and maybe there's just some things on the periphery that we're talking about.

[Sean Pendergast]

Or he's just trying to get to the next question.

[Seth Payne]

That's a really good point. That's a really good point.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's going great.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, that's true. Like, when somebody asks you, how you doing? Yeah, it's going great. It's going great. So, like, my house burned down last night, but I don't want to talk

[Nick Casario]

to you about it.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, I've heard some things where it's not going that great. So I think that was the big thing coming out of yesterday, is that maybe there's a contract for CJ Stroud. I'm curious how Texan fans feel. We've got a text line out here, so you can communicate with us. 713-572-4-6,10. We mentioned earlier the Astros back at.500. They beat the Angels. Our baseball talk On Sports Radio 610 is presented by Xfinity. Score the most reliable Wi Fi 1 price 5 years guaranteed Xfinity. Imagine that. All right, up next, injury updates on the Texans. We were bullish on Tankdale yesterday. How do we feel about this news on Tankdale? We'll get to that. And would you welcome back this familiar face if you're a Texan fan, we'll get to all that headline. All right, pain and pender gas. We are live at Texans training camp. Lots of stuff happening yesterday both with the Texans and the Astros. We'll get to the Astros in the headlines in the next segment. But let's start with the injury news with the Texans yesterday. If you missed the first segment, we talked plenty about the comments from both Nick Casario and C.J. stroud about Stroud's contractual situation. That'll pop up again later in the show. 7:00 clock today we've got extensive things that Seth saw at training camp yesterday. If you're a Texan fan and you need the picture painted for you, if you need eyes and ears out here, we've got you covered really all day long, but particularly 7 o' clock today. Seth had a ton of great observations that we're going to dig into those and got a little audio to go around those as well from some of the guys that spoke yesterday. Here was Nick Casario on the injury Jalen Noel, if you missed it, Jalen Noel popped up on the non football injury list the day before camp began. Back on Tuesday afternoon, we got some clarity from Texans executive vice president and general manager Nick Casario yesterday and then Jay Noll.

[Nick Casario]

You know, honestly happened three, four days ago. I mean he's got a little bit of an issue with his finger. He's catching passes. He must have caught it the wrong way. So short term, not real concern. Probably be a few weeks, kind of see how he progresses.

[Seth Payne]

Okay, I got everything about that was reassuring until he said probably be a few weeks where I wondered. Oh, okay. Well that sounds like.

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, at least we know what body part it is.

[Reporter or Analyst]

Right?

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[Sean Pendergast]

Right after Joe Mixon last year.

[Seth Payne]

And you're tempted to always say, oh, it's just a finger. They could just pop it back in. Right. And then you remember, oh yeah, he's a receiver. They kind of really need those. They need all 10 of their digits typically. Yeah, yeah. The. Yeah, you just can't Jason Pierre Paul your way through an NFL season is a. So I think that the fact that he said a few weeks made me wonder. Okay, well, hopefully that means I would hope it's a broken bone and not some kind of ligament issue or something. If they're saying it's going to be a few weeks, they.

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, they typically, they don't even say a few weeks. They just leave it open ended so that they're saying anything like that. I feel, I feel good that this one they've kind of got their arms around.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah, yeah. I just. The other part about it, without worrying too much about something, we just don't

[Sean Pendergast]

worry about him just missing.

[Seth Payne]

Right, right, right, exactly. That's what I was going to say is that they're like, oh, man, this is, this is kind of critical. We've been talking about this last year. One of the things that held the offense back as well as CJ is that they were in a position where they were trying to get Jaden Higgins to come along as a rookie and he did a good job of that. But it took an entire season for him to really get into the groove and being, you know, a viable NFL wide receiver. I shouldn't say it took the entire season, but it was a process. Jalen Noel as well was sequestered behind Christian Kirk. Christian Kirk had his injuries. His injury issues. Yeah, I want Jalen Noel and Jaden Higgins to be out there as much as possible right now. Jaden Higgins had a really nice pass and then a little put the brakes on and a defensive back ran past him yesterday. So that was good. But we're not going to see that out of Jalen Noel for at least a few weeks.

[Sean Pendergast]

Not for at least a few weeks. Now, I would say maybe the bigger mystery is when are we going to see Tank Dell. Tank Dell not on the pup, the physically unable to perform list. So that felt good when that list came out. Like, oh, okay, well, Tank's been cleared to practice, but as you pointed out at the beginning of the show yesterday, just because he's cleared to practice doesn't mean he's going to do everything that his teammates are doing out here. And Nick Casario made that very clear at the beginning of his press conference. He laid this all out without even having people ask the question because he knew it would come up. He explains why Tank Dell is not on the PUP list as it pertains to Tank.

[Nick Casario]

So he's not on a PUP list. I'd say Tanks work really hard to put himself in a position. I say he still has some work to do, so you're not going to see him Practice like he won't be on the practice field. He still has some things that he has to go through. But the reason that we're kind of keeping him alive and keeping him off the list because it enables him to participate in some drills or activities that you otherwise wouldn't be able to participate if you were on a reserve list or active PUP list. So whether it's our walkthrough, whether it's our precision check, some other things. So like you won't see him practice. Like you're going to watch practice and wonder where Tank is and say, wait a minute, Tank's not practicing well, it's by design. So he's got some ramp up work that he's still going to do. But there's some other things that we can do with him to kind of incorporate him into some, I would say, team crossover slash walkthrough type situation.

[Seth Payne]

So, yeah, so with PUP and the rules get kind of confusing, but basically you got to be put on it at the beginning of training camp and then if you're on it all the way through training camp, then they could also put you on PUP at the beginning of the regular season and you get some roster exemptions for that. So if for players that they might look at and say, boy, you know what, there's a real good chance that this guy might not be ready. So we want to just put him on pup and that saves us a roster space potentially, you can activate him or whatever. So for Tank, it's an indication that they feel good enough about the chance of him playing in the regular season that they'd rather get him out there on the practice field and have him do what he can and follow their schedule instead of kind of hedging their bets and putting them on the PUP where he wouldn't be able to do any football stuff right now. He would just continue on doing more of the rehab he's been doing for the past 18, 19 months.

[Sean Pendergast]

It's still overall a really good sign. It's a good sign. And the stuff that they. I think what's encouraging to me is that the stuff that Nick was describing, the Tank is allowed to do, seems to be all kind of mental stuff.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

And for a guy who hasn't played in this system yet. Now we asked Nick about that in one of the hits that we did with him over the last year. So I know, I asked him about, do you have any concerns about Tank getting up to speed on the playbook? Because both of the seasons he was active, it was Bobby Slowik's offense, not Nick Kaley's offense. Nick had no concerns about that. But the fact of the matter is he hasn't been on a football field doing anything competitive in over a year. And this is going to be an offense that once he's out in between the lines, is new to him. So it's an opportunity for him to at least start to see how things work out.

[Seth Payne]

Right, Right. And just get those. Those reps in getting all the stuff that you want to get automatic, you know, and it. It really. It boils down to okay with a guy like Tank and with that catastrophic knee injury, you want as few variables as possible when he gets out there and starts to play actual football if you get out. And he's still kind of confused pre snap because he's not real comfortable in the offense yet. And then you add more uncertainty onto it because it's the first time he's been running routes against live. Like, all of that just kind of adds up and makes it that much more of a recipe for a setback. So being super, super careful about it is. It's the smart thing to do right now. And I. I'm guessing just from the way that Kario has talked about it at times, it sounds like Tank is lobbying for more all the time. You know, like he's. I feel like Tank might be up there in front of Carcerio's office right this moment or d' Amico just like waiting, like, hey, Coach, you know, I think we can be a little faster than this. They got to calmly.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's got his phone out and they're like, oh, Tank, what are you watching? Oh, just my highlights from my rookie year. He's showing in his face how impactful Tank Dell can be. How would you feel about a second era of Jadevian Clowney in Houston?

[Seth Payne]

I'd love it. I would be really, really cool with that. There's. There's news afoot.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, there is. I'm looking at a tweet from Nick Schwager who says the Texans have interest in former first. First overall pick Jadevion Clowney. According to Aaron Wilson, Clowney lives and trains in Houston. Bring him home. That's Nick's opinion, not mine. Although that is my opinion. I would like for them to bring him home. Look, you pointed this out throughout the off season. That is a position of need still on. This team is upgrading the depth Behind Will Anderson Jr. And Daniel Hunter on the edges.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. And you know, right now he would be an upgrade. The replacements for Derek Barnett And Daniko Autry are guys that are either young guys that have to come along or a guy like Dominique Robinson, who the Texans got out of Chicago, who's a very intriguing guy because he's like, I don't know if you saw him yesterday, Sean. I think I pointed him out to you. He's big, him and Ali Gay. Ali Gay's back in the fold. He's a younger guy who's a developmental guy still at this point in his career. But Dominique Robinson's a big dude and I think I can see the upside there. We've seen a lot of defensive linemen come into this team with d' Ameco as the head coach and really kind of show the best version of themselves. So I think that they're hoping that Dominique Robinson works out. But Jedevion Clowney is a known quantity. And the nice thing about Jedebion is I feel like he's been gone from Houston long enough that from the fans perspective, you don't, you don't have to think about whether this guy was worth his draft pick or not. You know, that's always been, it's really been that way with Clowney his entire career, really. He's a really productive player and he makes a huge impact in the run game. He does a lot of the things that d' Ameco Ryan's really likes in his defensive lineman. You know, you can rush the passerby, you've got an element of physicality to you. He does all those things. And just because he's not a cornerstone franchise player, who the hell cares? That's not, that's not how you're going to be paying him. That's not the type of contract you'd get. And I think he, I think you'd fit right in in terms of his personality and mindset.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, I think it would be great. I think it'd be great. And hopefully, hopefully that's something they can make happen.

[Seth Payne]

And it would be. We'd get to be a part of all these annoying conversations every single year with Jadevion Clowney where people are all of a sudden, they're like, hey, boy, Clowney's having a resurgence this year. No, he's just in a different uniform. This is how he's been playing every single year since he left Houston.

[Sean Pendergast]

It would be ironic though, if he finally got double digit sacks on a team that has Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter on it.

[Seth Payne]

Well, I mean, yeah, there's arguments for

[Sean Pendergast]

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[Seth Payne]

Well, no, yeah. Yeah. I mean that's like you get, you get a lot of the slough off of, you know. And Will and Danille benefit from that with each other.

[Nick Casario]

Yep.

[Seth Payne]

There's a lot of Will Anderson sacks that were because Danil flushed the pocket and vice versa.

[Sean Pendergast]

Absolutely. All right, we'll get to headlines. Astros win last night. We'll talk about that. We've got training camp news. Got a little news around the NFL as well that we can get to. Lots to get to here. Seth and I are live here at Texans training camp for day two. So stay there. Headlines are coming up.

[Seth Payne]

Payne and Pendergast with today's headlines.

[Sean Pendergast]

All right, let's get to headlines. Payne and Pendergast with you here on a. On a Thursday, day two of Texans training camp. We'll get to the Texans in just a little bit. We've only touched on the Astros one time today, but I think it's worth touching on certainly here at the top of headlines. The Astros have climbed all the way back to.500, Seth. They are 55 and 55 on the season.

[Seth Payne]

I brought this up with one game back of the Rangers in the division.

[Sean Pendergast]

One game back of the Rangers could be a half game back when, when we go to bed tonight because the Rangers do play tonight. And then they've got a three game series the Astros do with the Rangers at home this weekend. Biggest series of the year easily coming up this weekend at Dyken Park. For a little perspective on exactly where the Astros are as an organization compared to the heyday of the Astros, they are 55 and 55. I still think that the 2019 Astros are the best team. The best Astros team.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. You're not alone in that.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, they're the best.

[Seth Payne]

Well, that was, I mean, you had two Cy Young finalists. You, one of the, you had, you had historical, historically great things both on the offensive and defensive side.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. But here's why I'm bringing them up. In order to, in order to finish with the same record as that team in the regular season, the Astros would

[Seth Payne]

need to win out. Well, they're on pace. They need to win every game.

[Sean Pendergast]

The rest of this, they need to win the last 52 games. But that's, that's a match. That team.

[Seth Payne]

That's perfect, though, because that's also a reminder that, hey, who did that historically great regular season baseball team lose to

[Sean Pendergast]

in the World Series, 93 win, Nationals team, which was a bad team for the first half of the season that year.

[Seth Payne]

Right.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep.

[Seth Payne]

And it was and completely is every. We don't need to relive that agony.

[Sean Pendergast]

No.

[Seth Payne]

But I think there's a lot to be said about just exactly what the Astros are right now, given all of those injuries early on. They, they've righted the ship to an extreme degree. And I look, because it's more of a storybook way to put it, I'll latch right onto it. Is that I think part of this is like Jeremy, guys like Jeremy Pena, you know, getting up and making a speech and telling guys they need to be more urgent after they got swept coming out of the bye week. That, that kind of that core DNA of this team. It's. We've been watching it in these last couple years and wondering, like, who the hell are they? These guys. These guys just don't resemble. To speak nothing of the performance on the field, just the way they operate and like, where is the. Where's the drive and the passion and the urgency? I loved, I loved that Pena has become one of those guys as a relatively young player. I do, too.

[Sean Pendergast]

I do, too. I just hope he's here for longer than just next season.

[Seth Payne]

I don't give a damn about next season.

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, there may not be one good news. There might not be a season next year. Did you see? I'm going to hit it here just because I don't know when we're going to hit the Astros again. Did you see Jeff Passon's trade deadline article yesterday and what he's proposing might be in the works for the Astros?

[Seth Payne]

No.

[Sean Pendergast]

George Springer.

[Seth Payne]

Oh, that's right. No, I did see that. Yeah. That's okay.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's in the last year of his deal.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

Toronto is in dump mode right now. They are going to be. All signs point to them being a seller. And we know Jim Crane's not. He's got some nostalgia.

[Seth Payne]

He'll pull the sentimental nostalgia. Look, if you're. If you're a Verlander, if you're a Korea, I would imagine if you're a Springer, there's a little something.

[Sean Pendergast]

Jim Crane is not afraid to go to a Doobie Brothers concert or a Journey concert. He loves him some nostalgia.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. But he's also wondering why his kids aren't into the Doobie Brothers. Like, his kids are like, I don't know. Dad, Dad, I was hoping to live on campus next year at college. Like, no, no, we gotta go see the Doobie Brothers with this money. Yep, we gotta. We got a boss.

[Sean Pendergast]

They probably wouldn't have to pay very much. I mean, it'd only be for two months out of the year and Toronto probably pick up some of the freight.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah. No, and that, that could. And you don't have to worry about his age or his injury history. I mean, you do worry about his injury history, but if you're just rolling the dice on somebody that, you know, when it comes to some of those. Some of those things that, you know, one of my favorite Jeff Luno quotes was, you know, just because. Who's obviously very analytically minded was that there are things that you just can't measure analytically. And he said, just because you can't measure something doesn't mean that it's not real. So when it comes to things like team chemistry or leadership or all those, it's a lot harder to start, a lot harder to attach numbers and formulas to those things. And George Springer just feels right. Yeah, he was just. And I know you don't come, you don't expect him to come back and be the peak version of himself, but when you're looking for bats in the outfield, my goodness.

[Sean Pendergast]

Well, he, the problem, the issue would be one, he's, he's older, obviously. And the injury, the injury always hangs, the injury cloud always hangs over him, as you pointed out. But he's only, he's only played like seven games in the outfield this year.

[Seth Payne]

He's been there.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's been there full time dh. So Jordan, that seat's taken. Maybe Jordan and him do some sort of platoon in left field. You know, Dyken's got a pretty easy left field to play for good outfielders.

[Seth Payne]

I got depressed yesterday when I realized that George Springer is 36 years old.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yes, he is old.

[Seth Payne]

That was because I kind of, I kind of knee jerk yesterday said something like, well, you know, age and injuries. But I wasn't really thinking of it as an old guy necessarily. But he's old.

[Sean Pendergast]

He's old. Yeah. So.

[Seth Payne]

Well, I always think of him as being much younger than Altuve just because Altuve was already on the, you know, was already an all star player and everything.

[Sean Pendergast]

George, George made the mistake of going to college.

[Seth Payne]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

All right, so that's what's going on with the Ashes.

[Seth Payne]

Well, he made the mistake of going to college and then also just being stuck in the, in the minor leagues on a team that was.

[Sean Pendergast]

On a team that was messing with people's service time. Service time at that, at that point in their, in their evolution. So, yeah, Astros win last night, off tonight, Rangers in town this weekend. This is an exciting baseball weekend coming up.

[Seth Payne]

And was Neski last night would be the promising thing where it didn't look so hot. But he reined it in, figured it out, got it together.

[Nick Casario]

Yeah.

[Seth Payne]

And like there's, there's, there's good, there have been good things going on on the pitching front point if you just ignore some of the incredibly disastrous things that have also been going on in the field.

[Sean Pendergast]

Gave up three in the first inning, but ended up hanging in for five and two thirds and ended up only giving up those three runs.

[Nick Casario]

Yeah.

[Sean Pendergast]

As you pointed out. So, so that's good news. Texans, yesterday at training camp, the, the big, I guess the big Story coming out of training camp yesterday is that CJ Stroud contract talks may still have a pulse here. Nick Casario saying that the two sides have had productive conversations over the course of, of the off season. Here, here was CJ Stroud when he was asked about it yesterday.

[CJ Stroud]

I think, you know, everything has been great. You know, I'm focused on ball, trying to do what the best, trying to just hold my bargain down on just the football side and do what I can, you know, and what I should be doing as a, as a quarterback of this team. So I'm letting them handle it and seems like everything is going great.

[Sean Pendergast]

Maybe hold my bargain down as a saying that's just popped up and you and I are a little too old

[Seth Payne]

to hold my bargain down.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. Check Urban Dictionary for me and see if there's anything about holding a bargain down on there. But it does sound like from both sides, both CJ Stroud and Nick Casario, that there is smoke going on right now. There is at least contact between the two sides. We don't know which one is more dug in than the other on what the number is. We don't even know what the number is. We know what the number is for the market out there right now. And it would seem, I would guess that if the Texans aren't talking about anything in that $55 million range, then the side that's probably pretty dug in is the, is, is the CJ Stroud, David Mulligetta side.

[Seth Payne]

They might have that in their head is 65 million and like theoretically at

[Sean Pendergast]

least be at 55 and put CJ with all these other guys.

[Seth Payne]

That's true. Yeah. The Texans might be a little bit. Now the one thing about the Texans too is that they, they like going shorter term deals with lots of guaranteed money. And you just never know because when it comes to players negotiating with team, there's like seven different ways a player can feel like he's been adequately taken care of. Like some guys care about the average. Some guys care about the total guarantee. Some guys care about just the top line number. And we just have zero clue exactly how all that's going.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yep. All right, so there you go. Those are your, those are your headlines. A quick reminder that August 13th, big day. Sports Radio 610, if you haven't heard the news is going to be 95. 7 the Fan at about 8 o' clock Aug. 13. That's when the changeover, the countdown. It's going to be a huge day here at the station when we become 957 the fan still simulcast on sports radio 610. It'll be 610 the fan. So make a note of that circle. August 13th, biggest day in the history of the station.

[Seth Payne]

Frequency modulation.

[Sean Pendergast]

That's exactly right. Two weeks from today. We are on the frequency modulation as

[Seth Payne]

opposed to the, what is the AC Amplitude?

[Sean Pendergast]

Amplitude.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

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[Sean Pendergast]

Let's ask the engineer.

[Seth Payne]

Why are you shaking your head at amplification? It's amplitude. He said amplification. You shook your head. Yeah, I said amplitude.

[Sean Pendergast]

Yeah. I was wrong.

[Seth Payne]

No, I mean, don't ask me. Do it. Don't ask me any further questions about that.

[Sean Pendergast]

All right?

[Seth Payne]

I was the one that was wrong.

[Sean Pendergast]

All right. All right. So we'll that's, that's big, exciting news for the station two weeks from today. All right. Coming up next, if you're a Texan fan that's not able to be out here at training camp and none of you can really be out here until Saturday this week, but you're very curious about what's going on, not just with C.J. stroud. What's the offense look like? What do these position groups look like? What's the vibe around the team? Seth has his. Seth is emptying his notebook in this next segment. So you're going to get everything that went on. We've got audio to go with it as well.

[Seth Payne]

We'll do that.

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[Sean Pendergast]

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[Sean Pendergast]

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[Sean Pendergast]

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[Seth Payne]

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[Sean Pendergast]

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