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Payne & Pendergast
Texans had the 4th most players named in the Top 10 at their respective position
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Derek Pendergast
Prices and participation may vary. Prices may be higher for Delivery. Sports Radio 610 presents Payne and Pendergast. Someone just said on the text page, top 100, I want a pity party tantrum from Sean about CJ Stroud. Tell us why you keep saying $60 million would be smart. I haven't said that. I haven't. At no point, if I said the Texans should give CJ shroud $60 million. What the hell are you talking about?
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Cole
Yeah, what are you talking about? Explain yourself.
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Derek Pendergast
Yeah, I.
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Cole
We get that sometimes. Is that like, even. Even if we're discussing whether or not CJ Stroud will be on the six on the top 100? People take that and think it as us arguing that he should be in the top 100.
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Derek Pendergast
Right?
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Cole
Where? No. If anything, I want him to be in the top 100 just because of the mayhem that it will create in the media over him being ranked higher than Lamar Jackson.
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Ethan
That's. That's where you really want to go? I want the May lamar right behind C.J.
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Cole
yeah, like the fact that Bryce Young is on there is a travesty. And no, CJ doesn't belong on it this year. And yet there's because the voting process is so screwy with that thing. There's a chance that CJ Will be.
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Ethan
He would be so hysterical to watch as Sam Darnold shows on up. And one before him would be C.J. stroud.
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Cole
Yeah, right.
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Ethan
Just like the guy fresh off of winning a Super bowl. But seven interceptions.
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Derek Pendergast
He's still. Well, we're starting to get to a point, too. Not to go too far on the tangent, but they're going to reveal players 60 and 59 today. I thought Kaylin Bullock might make it and Kamari Lasseter might make it and Jalen Petrie might make it. We're starting to get into a range where I don't know if any of those guys are making it either, but it may just be. It may very well be Aziz and the four guys we thought were locks to make.
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Cole
There are a lot of guys in 50 through 100 that are there because one person voted them. Yeah. Because they only vote for the top 20. And so like somebody out there is at least one person said, yep. Bryce Young, top 20 in the NFL.
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Derek Pendergast
Yeah.
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Cole
All right. Because it's. They went to Alabama. They're currently on the Panthers.
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Derek Pendergast
Well, and as far as CJ Goes, we know he didn't have a lot of support in the executive. The thing we're about to talk about here, the executives and coaches and whatnot that voted in Jeremy Fowler's old deal, he had one vote in that thing. Yeah, it's. I mean, the stock is. Stock's about as low on CJ around the league right now. Is any the lowest at any point in his career? Right. Is it time to buy CJ Stroud stock coming up next? So the final numbers are in on the aforementioned Jeremy Fowler exercise, where he's got what, 70 different coaches, coordinators, scouts,
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Ethan
executives, executive around the league, front office
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Derek Pendergast
personnel voting on the top 10 at each of the positions. There's 11 different position groups and they revealed the top 10 over the course of the last couple of weeks. The book is closed on that. The Texans finished by themselves in fourth place in terms of the most guys in the top 10. And I think what's worth noting, couple of things. The they finished with six total. They had two other guys that were the first honorable mention. So theoretically, they're just a vote or two away from having eight guys on this list. The team. This is the other interesting part, the teams that are ahead of them. So The Texans had six players named in the top 10 at their respective positions. Third place, Chiefs seven. All right. Not a big surprise. Just based on the Chiefs roster over the course of the last few years, Eagles 8. Eagles have always had a deep roster. Lions 9. Nobody's drafted better over the last few years than the Detroit Lions. I think what's interesting is two of those three teams didn't make the playoffs last year.
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Cole
Yeah.
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Ethan
Yeah.
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Derek Pendergast
Detroit Lions and the Kansas City Chiefs miss the postseason next year. That's interesting to me.
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Cole
Yeah. The. I mean, well, the Chiefs, it's not. I. It's weird when people kind of just do the. The flyby analysis of teams and everything. I think people almost talk about the Chiefs a little too casually, as if Patrick Mahomes injury is what did them in and that they weren't like. No, they weren't. They were. They were. They were at peril of not making the playoffs before Pat Mahomes got injured.
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Derek Pendergast
Absolutely. They were. Yeah.
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Ethan
People do.
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Cole
They kind of. They speak in shorthand about the Chiefs like, well, they got Mahomes back. Like, all right. If you have you watched Mahomes, that offense the last couple years, it wasn't. It hasn't been driven by incredible offensive efforts.
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Derek Pendergast
He missed like, the last three or four games.
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Cole
Yeah.
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Derek Pendergast
They finished 6 and 11.
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Cole
Yeah.
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Ethan
They weren't going to the playoffs with him.
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Derek Pendergast
Right.
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Cole
Their backs were against the wall going against the Texans in that game.
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Derek Pendergast
Week 14. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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Ethan
Do you think it's weird that the Eagles and the Lions have more than the Texans? Because I personally don't. When I just look at the rosters
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Cole
with the star talent, you know, because, yeah, the Eagles are another one of those weird teams where even, like in this. In that top 20 ranking, you know, Jalen Hurts finishes, what, 17th ye. In the voting and that. Which, like, I understand exactly how people look at him, but you kind of forget the Eagles. Perennially, people. It feels like, oh, they're washed up. Oh, they won 12 games. Did they? Yeah. And yet there they are every other year making a push for the Super Bowl.
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Derek Pendergast
Yep. Okay, so the players that made it for the Texans or they got mentioned in here. Proper amount of respect. Too much respect. Or the dreaded D word. Seth. Disrespect. Stingley finishing second at cornerback behind Patrick. Certain proper amount of respect. Too much respect. Disrespect.
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Cole
I think that's a. I think it's a proper amount of spec. Partly just because, look, certain plays in a defense where they blitz a lot, the corners are playing man coverage a bunch, and you're always going to get more credit for that because you're put in that position, and that's a big part of the. Of why the defense works. So Stingley's almost just by virtue of playing in a more balanced scheme. Not saying that's better or worse. It's just a different philosophy that I. That. That I think Stingley could do exactly what Sir Tan does. He just doesn't have as many opportunities to do it.
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Ethan
The most pass breakups in the last three years and the second most interceptions in the last three years. Number two overall is fine, especially because of Sir Tan's the first Cornerback in, what, 30 years to win defensive player of the year.
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Cole
Yeah.
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Ethan
So it's hard to go ahead and say you're beating that guy.
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Cole
Yeah, I think. But consistently in any power ranking you look at it or anything, like, including this poll, it's typically certain. Number one, Stingley, number two. And I'm cool. Yeah. Like, you kind of think about your all pro squad. Like, okay, that makes sense.
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Derek Pendergast
Yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine with Derek Stanley being on my team. Like, would you trade Stingley for certain? Who says no? I don't. I'll say no. I like Derek Stingley Jr. The interesting one at that position. Kamari Lasseter, the first one in honorable mention. Should Kamari Lasseter be a top 10 cornerback in the eyes of evaluators around.
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Cole
I think he's. Because he doesn't have quite the same overall skill set as a certain or Derek Stingley. Like, people don't think of him as a pure cover corner. And, you know, going Back to the DeAndre Hopkins discussion, it's a little bit atypical of what they think of as the premier type of guy that you want. He's always going to get knocked down a chunk. I think with one more year of performing the level that he has, he'll be in the top 10 next year. And I do, too. It's weird, though, too, because you think about a young cornerback and usually, okay, you're playing opposite of Derek Stingley, then you're going to get a lot more attention and people are going to test you and you should get credit for passing that test. I feel like. I feel like it's kind of like they do with defensive ends where they might say, well, look, yeah, he's a really good defensive end, but he's got another good pass rusher on the other side of, you know, well, Daniel Hunter is good, but he's got Will Anderson on the other side. I feel like they're weirdly using that same psychology with Kamari Lasseter, except forgetting that. Oh, wait, no, that actually makes it harder. Although you can get, you know, you can get help over the top more often when you got a Derek Stingley over on the other side.
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Ethan
Yeah, I think it's disrespect, personally.
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Cole
I really do.
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Ethan
And the main reason why is because if you're going to use the logic of, well, because of a superstar cornerbacks on one side. One, why are we giving that credit to Cooper, to Gene, who made the top 10 list. And I understand he can play everywhere. He lines up in the nickel, he can line up on the outside. But still, the way that you watch Kamari Laster play, I think it's more impactful to the Texans defense than Cooper De Gene is to the Eagles defense.
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Derek Pendergast
I like him better than both of those Eagles cornerbacks. I like Kamari Lasseter better than Quinion Mitchell and Cooper DeJean, and they're both consistently rated ahead of him and stuff.
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Cole
I'll tell you what, like Sauce Gardiner is the one who's, what, ninth on the list this year and in terms of his overall, especially because Kamari is the opposite of Sauce Gardener and the. Kamari cannot wait to come up and play the run and tackle and do all those things.
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Ethan
He wants to hit you in the
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Cole
face like it was like, would you. Okay, Sauce Gardner probably better. Pure cover skills. But I want Kamari last year, any day of the week over Sauce play hurt.
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Derek Pendergast
We learned last year like he thought like those last few weeks of the season when he was dealing with, what was it, a foot issue or ankle or something? It was lower body, some sort of lower leg injury. He played through a lot of stuff Kamari did. Do you guys have any issue with Will Anderson third Daniel Hunter six.
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Cole
Will Anderson defend behind my. This is the problem. This is what I didn't like about it. They. They classified it as edge rusher instead of edge defender, which is. It's priming the brains of the voters. And they're thinking about pass rush, where I'm cool with Miles Garrett, then Micah Parsons and Will Anderson. But if it's edge defender and you take the whole package into it, then I think that Will Anderson's better than Micah Parsons in that regard.
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Derek Pendergast
I do too.
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Cole
So that's. I don't. I don't like the way. I don't like the vocabulary of the. The way they pulled it.
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Ethan
But you just said pass rusher Micah Parsons over.
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Cole
Over Will Anderson. Yeah, that's fine.
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Ethan
I. No disrespect in my opinion.
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Derek Pendergast
Yeah. And Hunter sixth. Hunter. I mean, Hunter's getting. Hunter's getting more respect now as a Texan than he ever got as a Viking.
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Ethan
I felt like, I think he's number six. I'm totally fine with him at number six.
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Derek Pendergast
Yeah.
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Ethan
But I felt like that this is the first time I've actually seen people giving the respect.
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Cole
Yeah, they said that. They said it looked like a lifetime achievement award for Daniel Hunter because you look at it and you look at what he's most sacks since 2000, whatever, four years ago or so in the league. I think the, the part about Danielle too is that when he was in Minnesota, they blitzed a lot. And what that does is it creates opportunities for a guy that at times he's unblocked, at times he's going against a running back or a tight end. And I think now that he's in a scheme where he's more often just rushing against an offensive tackle and having to win one on one versus an offensive tackle, people respect that more. So like, it's just. Even though he's playing opposite of Will Anderson and that, you know, like. Yeah, they both help each other.
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Derek Pendergast
Sure.
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Cole
It's more of a conventional pass rush, like Miles Garrett type scenario.
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Derek Pendergast
Did you. Okay, so the rest of these, we won't go through all of them, but Dalton Schultz also receiving votes. C.J. stroud getting one vote. Aziz Al Shayer, sixth among off ball linebackers. Nico Collins eighth among wide receivers. And again, if you're just tuning in, these are the, these are the. This is the voting that Jeremy Fowler conducted amongst executives, front office people, coaches, et cetera around the league. Kaylin Bullock, 10th among safeties. Jalen Petrie, honorable mention, first honorable mention among safeties. Are any of these in the disrespect?
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Cole
The one. Okay, so when we go to quarterbacks, I don't think CJ belonged in the top 10. I do get a little bit disgruntled where I look at Justin Herbert as seventh. And I'm. And I'm just wondering. Exactly. Especially, okay, you know, through four interceptions in a playoff game, Justin Herbert, like. And Justin Herbert doesn't. I don't think Justin Herbert, like, he
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Ethan
doesn't have a playoff win yet.
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Cole
Right, right.
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Derek Pendergast
Teflon dude.
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Cole
Yeah.
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Derek Pendergast
The. The voterazi. Whatever poll it is, it can be players.
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Ethan
It can.
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Derek Pendergast
I can't wait to see where he ends up in the top one.
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Ethan
Be like 33.
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Cole
Yeah.
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Derek Pendergast
You know, he. I don't know what the deal is with Justin Herbert. If he plays in a soft media market that just doesn't grill him enough.
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Ethan
He's got a great PR team. This is going.
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Cole
I feel like Caleb Williams was 10th and I feel like that's more of a, that's like a vote of confidence for Ben Johnson. More so than it what it what what Caleb Williams actually did last year. He had some incredible, he did. He had some incredible performances but the consistency is just not there yet. Where like guys like okay, Jordan Love or Brock Purdy that, that, that if it just been tested for a longer period.
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Derek Pendergast
So this isn't you saying for the sake of the text page here. This isn't you saying CJ should be in the top 10 or anything. This is you saying he should have gotten more than one vote in this thing?
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Cole
No, I'm not saying anything about cj. No, I don't think cj. No, I'm just talking about the general.
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Derek Pendergast
There are some odd ones because my question was did any of these specifically
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Cole
said this doesn't involve cj?
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Derek Pendergast
Gotcha.
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Ethan
For me personally, it goes back to Seth's part, part about the past rusher versus Edge defender. Yeah, that's it with me. When it comes to Jalen Petrie, I feel like that Jalen Petrie is so versatile because think about it, he's the only guy listed at that position on the group. Yeah, he's so valuable in run defense and playing in zone coverage and being against slot receivers and tight ends and how he's able to be physical at
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Cole
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Ethan
The hit that we talk about and it's like, if we're not going to go with slot defender categories, how is Nicki Minwari 1 year of experience better than Jalen Petrie at this point?
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Cole
Yeah, that's where he played. They should have a, they should have a Nickelback listed on here. Yeah. Or even. The problem is you call a slot defender and people have classically go to the, you know, the, the 190 pound, your third best cornerback.
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Ethan
So at that point.
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Cole
Yeah, exactly. And guys are going to give more credit when they're in that mode of thinking about the actual cover guys. Whereas Petrie's. Petrie's much more of a like nickel linebacker, Nickelback guy can come up and stop the run, but also provide coverage that, yeah, they do need to. Just like they did with edge defenders. They got to start changing the nomenclature of some of these positions.
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Ethan
What was funny is social media also took to that offense and they said if you watch Kalen Bullock play and Jalen Petrie play, there's no reason why Jalen Petrie should be behind Kalen block.
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Derek Pendergast
I'm curious what Texan fans feel like that. Like if you, if you were to lose one of them. I mean, they lost Petrie for three games last year, so you know what that looks like? Petrie feels like almost. Petrie almost feels like the harder one to replace because of the diversity of his skill set.
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Cole
Yeah, well, with Bullock too. I mean, one thing that hampered him a little bit last year was I don't think they could do everything they wanted to do with him because they had just. They didn't, they didn't know who the other safety was at any given point. So there are times where, man, they might have wanted to be in single high safety and have Kalen Bullock played, you know, deep center field, but they just don't trust that other cornerback. So they're playing safer looks.
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Derek Pendergast
Did you see Tank Dell's workout video?
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Ethan
Yes.
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Cole
Okay, so Cole, we always. Sean, I was nervous because we're not exercise physiologists, but you know me, naturally. Yeah, yeah.
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Derek Pendergast
We allow ourselves to get a little
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Cole
minor in exercise physiology. Right.
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Ethan
I'm not A real doctor, but I
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Derek Pendergast
play one on race.
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Cole
Yeah, I thought the videos that came out this weekend from his workout facility, I thought, I thought that looked pretty damn impressive. I mean, he was kind of gliding along. It looked like the old, the old Tank Dell test for me was, does it look like this is AI? I felt like that looked a little bit like AI because it just doesn't. He was moving the way most human beings, like even most football players, can't move.
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Ethan
I'm in wait and see mode still. I have to be. This is a guy that's coming off of two injuries. Lower body. And on top of that, the freak injury that kept you out for 20 plus months. It's. It's great to see him at that speed. It's great to know that he is getting back to speed, like back on pace. Until I see live reps, it's just a. It's a cool moment. Let's just go ahead and put a pin.
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Derek Pendergast
But what's your medical opinion on this?
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Ethan
Medical.
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Cole
Let's see. He's had 2. He's played two seasons in the NFL. Both of them have ended in a. In a pretty major injury.
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Derek Pendergast
Broken leg.
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Cole
Broken leg and three torn ligaments.
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Derek Pendergast
And in between, he got shot, right?
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Cole
Well, yeah, that's the thing. He's had three major injuries since he's been in the NFL. And in the power ranking, the gun shooting was the third. The third. Third most severe.
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Ethan
I would put it at a probability rate of 72% that we will see him play in 2022.
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Derek Pendergast
Dr. Thompson, that's what we were looking for.
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Ethan
I will also say that he is at a 50% rate of re. Injuring the leg.
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Cole
Yeah, that. That very knee or something.
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Derek Pendergast
That very skinny little chicken legs.
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Cole
That's the biggest thing is the, that's the big test. When you start practicing football, it's you, you might look great in that first practice, then it's okay. How do you recover? And you know, after that first game you feel great, but how do you recover?
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Derek Pendergast
You.
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Ethan
After the affirmations, repeat after me, Tank. I will take it easy until week one. I will not go full speed until week one.
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Derek Pendergast
He ain't playing in week one. Then if he's not going full speed in the preseason.
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Cole
I don't think you see him in the preseason games, but hope. But you get them in the combined practice. You get a story of Tank Dell had seven receptions in the combined practice.
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Ethan
So the CJ Stroud effect. Basically.
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Cole
Yeah.
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Derek Pendergast
Yeah.
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Cole
All right.
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Derek Pendergast
Pain and pender gas.
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Cole
And when I say, I don't think you see him in the preseason games, if only not because he's not ready, but because they just want to keep it under wraps.
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Derek Pendergast
Dude, we hardly see anybody in the preseason games anyways nowadays. All right, World cup is over. Casual fan. Biggest memories from this world. This World cup had a lot of newsworthy stuff that had nothing to do with the outcomes of some of the games. It was pretty wild. We'll get to that coming up next.
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Cole
Well, it's going to be your memory of your, you know, planning for your retirement. When you're sitting at that age, you think like, oh, yeah, I remember that day I called Trajan wealth and got the ball rolling. And that's why I'm having the retirement I deserve right now, taking care of my family. That's what it starts with. With planning for your Retirement. Sports Radio 610 present. Live from the West Point Lincoln and West Point Lincoln of Sugar Land Studios,
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Derek Pendergast
here's Pain and Pendergast. So the World cup is over. Spain is your World cup champion for 2026. And now we wait. We wait four more years for three or four soccer games a day for six weeks.
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Cole
Well, the big thing would be, is if the US makes it past the round of 16, that would be the big thing. That would be fun in any given World Cup.
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Derek Pendergast
Yes, that would be fun. We'll see how much progress we can.
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Cole
Where is it in 2028, 2030?
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Ethan
It's. I think it's Spain, Portugal and one other country.
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Derek Pendergast
I think you're right. I think that sounds.
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Cole
Yeah, I was stuck in Olympics mode. Yeah, it's every four years. Except it's every two years. Winter, winter, summer, winter World Cup.
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Ethan
The Spain, Portugal, Morocco are the third.
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Derek Pendergast
Okay. So they're doing a little look at Morocco getting in. I know that's gotta be a.
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Cole
That's gotta be hot.
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Derek Pendergast
Yes. Yes.
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Cole
Well, Byron, how hot is it in Morocco right now? Don't give me any centigrade bs.
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Derek Pendergast
Yeah, yeah.
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Cole
They're gonna get. They're gonna try to spit a centigrade at you. I don't know what any of it is.
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Derek Pendergast
He's looking it up.
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Cole
I see these Canadians sometimes being like, it's 37 degrees centigrade. I'm like, I. I don't know what to do.
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Derek Pendergast
No.
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Cole
I don't know how to respond to that.
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Derek Pendergast
Get on our level. Fahrenheit.
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All right.
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Derek Pendergast
From 96.
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Cole
96 degrees in Morocco right now. Okay.
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Derek Pendergast
Sounds a little.
- [21:14]
Cole
It sounds like Houston. It sounds less humid, actually. It's probably Delightful.
- [21:17]
Derek Pendergast
Do they have roofs on their st. That's the question?
- [21:19]
Cole
Probably, Yeah.
- [21:20]
Derek Pendergast
I would hope so. I would hope so.
- [21:21]
Cole
Well, you know, all these other countries have to build stadiums for the. For the World Cup.
- [21:25]
Derek Pendergast
Well, that was the big thing. Okay, so this gets losers. This gets to what I was gonna hit here now that the World Cup's over. I enjoyed this world. I enjoyed this World Cup a lot more than I thought I would. Not that I'm anti World cup or anti soccer. It became a much bigger part of my routine than I had ever anticipated. We watched a lot of the games, Amy and I did, I think just casual fan. Cause there's a lot of people I know listening out there that didn't watch any of the games, that only watched some of the games.
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Cole
But you still were. But you still saw some content coming across.
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Derek Pendergast
Yeah. And that's kind of. So the biggest my. For me, the biggest casual fan memories of the World Cup, I think number one is that there was this period really leading up to Baligan's red card getting overturned where. Where there was this love affair going on with the United States from the rest of the world.
- [22:15]
Cole
I think that continued on afterwards because if anything, there was a. There was a. There was a realization by a lot of people visiting the United States that, like, oh, okay, you know what? Just like it is as it is, whenever anything's in the world news, you see nothing but the negative. And a lot of people have this perception, the United States of us, like, all being a certain type of way as people or that there's gun violence everywhere or anything. So having. Having all these people being so, like, pleasantly surprised that it's actually a really fun place to be. Yeah, that was really cool. I felt like it was a little bit. A little bit of Kumbaya for the entire world.
- [22:49]
Derek Pendergast
I think that way sometimes, too. Like, you see these. These other countries, you know, like in the other hemisphere.
- [22:55]
Cole
Yeah.
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Derek Pendergast
And there's, you know, there's stuff going on in those countries, too. And that's all you ever see on the news. And you feel like you still like, I like my. I'm not going to name countries.
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Cole
Well, no, I'd say the Middle east in general, like. Yeah, people have a perception of the Middle east is like, you walk out the door and there's nothing but rubble
- [23:10]
Derek Pendergast
everywhere and people are shooting at you. There's bombs going on and everything else. And that may have been, to a degree, the impression people had here. It was really cool to see that. It was really cool to see them appreciate like, the comforts and the amenities that we like a lot of that.
- [23:27]
Cole
All the cliches about, like, especially in Texas, they do it bigger in Texas. They're like, it really is.
- [23:32]
Derek Pendergast
It really is bigger in Texas. Holy cow. Refillable drinks.
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Cole
Yeah.
- [23:36]
Derek Pendergast
I can't believe I get refill. I just walk up to the machine.
- [23:38]
Ethan
Ranch being a big one, too.
- [23:39]
Derek Pendergast
Ranch dressing, where they had to go
- [23:43]
Ethan
through TSA and they were getting bags pulled because they were trying to sneak ranch back.
- [23:47]
Cole
My favorite thing was this. The whole. You get used to seeing on social media Europeans being like, the Americans do not understand food or cuisine. And then meanwhile, you have all these Europeans coming over and they're like, oh, my gosh, whataburger is so incredible. Oh, they have so many McDonald's here.
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Derek Pendergast
Oh, this white cat, white cassette.
- [24:08]
Cole
Like, wait a second. I was under the impression that you guys are all over there eating seven course meals every night.
- [24:14]
Ethan
Chips and salsa. That's free at the table.
- [24:17]
Derek Pendergast
Free chips and salsa was a big one.
- [24:18]
Cole
I knew about the apple pie, but I did not know that it could be deep fried.
- [24:22]
Derek Pendergast
Yes.
- [24:22]
Cole
Yes.
- [24:23]
Derek Pendergast
All right. Other casual fan memories from the World Cup. The saga of Freddie. Freddie, the German superfan, who of course was partially subsidized by J.J. watt on his ship. J.J. got him a nice room at the Post Oak and some other things, but that happened almost everywhere he went. To me, the funniest part of the Freddy story was the very predictable storyline arc that he would have on social
- [24:46]
Cole
media where he realized, like, oh, like a rockumentary, where, like, oh, you see the downside of we liked you when
- [24:53]
Derek Pendergast
you were a garage man, Freddie, and now you're this big.
- [24:55]
Ethan
Take a dark turn down the path of nowhere. Yeah, yeah.
- [24:59]
Cole
The funniest part of that about that was people were so eager to claim that he was like, oh, he's a corporate sellout or whatever. And you would see people saying. And like this. People in media saying, like, I don't know. I thought it was refreshing. But now he just turned into a big corporate thing. And you look down his timeline, it's like he visited NASA.
- [25:14]
Oregon Lottery Announcer
Yeah.
- [25:14]
Cole
Like. Like somebody at a counter at a fast food restaurant gave him a free meal or something. It wasn't like he was accepting ads from places.
- [25:22]
Derek Pendergast
No. He was getting offered to go places on private jets. He chose to go to, like, Vermont and walk around a small town and drive a little league baseball game.
- [25:29]
Cole
Yeah, yeah. Like, he really took in the experience and looked like he had no desire at all to actual.
- [25:34]
Fan/Caller
For.
- [25:34]
Cole
For actual fame.
- [25:35]
Derek Pendergast
Right.
- [25:36]
Cole
You know, like never showed his face.
- [25:38]
Ethan
Yeah, because it was a Cristiano Ronaldo meme, wasn't it? Like as the logo on his, whatever
- [25:42]
Derek Pendergast
that was his avatar.
- [25:43]
Ethan
His avatar, yeah.
- [25:44]
Derek Pendergast
But he would put like smiley faces over him and his buddies. Yeah, the Cabo Verde Cinderella story.
- [25:51]
Cole
Yeah, that was cool.
- [25:52]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah, that was, that was cool.
- [25:53]
Cole
But it was also a little bit of same way. I like sometimes, sometimes it takes away a little bit of the mystique of the major league pitcher when Cesar Salazar comes in and mows three, three batters down as a pitcher, like, or Jake Myers, you know, Cesar Salazar was rocking a 0.0.
- [26:10]
Derek Pendergast
When I picture Moza down, I picture like 99 miles an hour heat.
- [26:14]
Cole
I don't know. It doesn't seem all that hard or difficult. So I'm like, with soccer, I'm kind
- [26:18]
Derek Pendergast
of like, Shane, come on.
- [26:19]
Cole
So this guy who's selling insurance comes in and pitches a shutout in the World Cup. How hard is this game?
- [26:24]
Derek Pendergast
Everybody's, everybody's excited about the World cup. And Seth's over screaming small sample size
- [26:29]
Cole
doesn't seem all that difficult to size.
- [26:32]
Ethan
What?
- [26:33]
Derek Pendergast
Blocking three shots.
- [26:33]
Ethan
Not that chest.
- [26:35]
Cole
Speaking about, though, impressive things yesterday, the, the pitcher for the, the Orioles. Yesterday's young. Yeah, Brandon Young. That little hacky sack thing he did.
- [26:44]
Derek Pendergast
Oh, he picked it up to himself.
- [26:46]
Commercial Announcer
Yes.
- [26:46]
Cole
Hit his leg and then he popped there with his foot up and then threw maybe out. At first I thought I looked at.
- [26:51]
Derek Pendergast
I didn't see it live. I didn't see that play live. I watched most of the game. I didn't see that play live. But I saw the side view of it that somebody put up of just him. I'm like, hey, you must have just been doing that like during warm ups or something.
- [27:02]
Cole
Like Tiger woods with the little tricks that he does with the ball, you know, with the ball and turned it
- [27:06]
Derek Pendergast
through to first base. Yeah, that was crazy. All right. The, the, the Baligan red card overturn will be one of the bigger soccer stories, I think of that. And is that a precedent that gets set or if there's enough complaining going on about a guy getting the punitive nature of the red card.
- [27:23]
Cole
I kind of, you know what, I enjoyed forgetting about that whole thing because the US Lost. So thank you for bringing it back up.
- [27:29]
Derek Pendergast
Well, that's just, you know, people are going to remember.
- [27:31]
Cole
Well, that was one of those annoying ones because all of a sudden there was a big controversy. They like to call it World cup. And like, like by the time you dig into it, there's just way too many arguments on both sides for me to give a day.
- [27:44]
Derek Pendergast
I've always thought I said this the day after it happened that for a guy to get red carded out of a game, the team plays a man down.
- [27:51]
Cole
Yeah.
- [27:51]
Derek Pendergast
For the rest of the game and then he misses the next game is way too punitive.
- [27:55]
Cole
Well, it was one of those. They had all the way too punitive. The guys who were forgiven their red cards to be allowed to play in the World Cup. Like I. For one, if you try to take the US out of it and be as objective as possible, I think it was a good precedent because I agree with you. Like it's too punitive in the World cup. Especially that. That if it ends up being a precedent where more countries do it, then whatever.
- [28:17]
Ethan
To your guys, say, what is your take in college football in the targeting role where if you get targeted in the second half with the miss the first half of the next game.
- [28:25]
Cole
I don't like any suspensions for in game stuff that carry over to the next.
- [28:29]
Commercial Announcer
I don't either.
- [28:30]
Cole
Well, especially now that college football players make money.
- [28:35]
Derek Pendergast
Hit them where it hurts, they'll learn
- [28:37]
Ethan
how to wrap up.
- [28:39]
Derek Pendergast
You're the. You're the college football guy, Cole. Are they. Aren't they changing that rule to some degree?
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Oregon Lottery Announcer
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- [28:44]
Ethan
Not this season, but they're still reviewing it.
- [28:45]
Derek Pendergast
They are.
- [28:46]
Ethan
Yeah. They are reviewing it to where hopefully they won't have a suspension going into the next.
- [28:50]
Cole
The NFL added extra things that they're allowed to Booth review and I believe the illegal hits are one of them too. Yeah. So where they already do it. I felt like. Like, I feel like the NFL has been pushing the envelope on what gets Booth reviewed.
- [29:02]
Ethan
Oh, yeah.
- [29:02]
Cole
Above and beyond what's actually technically legal. But nobody. Nobody objects to that. Please do that.
- [29:07]
Ethan
College football's gotten better at that with targeting. Like, they've really tracked down on what
- [29:12]
Derek Pendergast
actually is calling the other thing casual fan memories from the World cup. The rituals for the different countries.
- [29:19]
Cole
Yeah. The Norway rowing and everything.
- [29:21]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah, the Norway rowing and the big one here locally. Because it happened once, almost happened twice, but it happened here. The Netherlands and that.
- [29:29]
Ethan
The orange walk.
- [29:30]
Derek Pendergast
The orange walk they do to the game. I talked to people who were. Who were part of that and they said it's. It is one of the most incredible experiences they've had.
- [29:38]
Ethan
As it was like I was so close to gone. I just couldn't get over there in time that morning.
- [29:42]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah.
- [29:43]
Cole
The other part of that is that Jameis Winston was involved in partaking in so many of them. Like, the Jameis Winston stuff was a lot of fun. James Winston did a good job.
- [29:51]
Derek Pendergast
That's good.
- [29:52]
Cole
I kept waiting for him to do something with France, but I figured there was some kind of, like, a Roman Polanski. Like. Like we'd have to give him amnesty or something if. If we're.
- [30:01]
Commercial Announcer
If.
- [30:01]
Cole
Because the French are gonna be like, this. Jameis Winston is out there, but you do not allow Roman for Lance.
- [30:08]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah, yeah, yeah. When is it President?
- [30:11]
Fan/Caller
Yeah.
- [30:12]
Derek Pendergast
So there you go. And then my. My other favorite thing is soccer. Seth winning our pool. I've mentioned that multiple times today, but I just.
- [30:18]
Cole
Do, you know Soccer, winning our pool.
- [30:19]
Derek Pendergast
Oh, soccer. Seth winning our pool.
- [30:21]
Cole
Oh. Oh, yeah. I win something for that.
- [30:23]
Derek Pendergast
I don't know. They.
- [30:25]
Cole
I thought you said soccer.
- [30:27]
Derek Pendergast
It's all good. I. I remember Reggie and John, who were the organizers of this pool.
- [30:33]
Cole
Yeah.
- [30:34]
Derek Pendergast
Saying that they were, like, pondering doing something, but it feels like, I don't know now that neither of them won, maybe they ponder their way right out.
- [30:41]
Cole
I think probably that because I was the person who participated least and yet won it all. It's kind of like that was my Cesar sale as our mowing down three batters in a row. Yeah. They're like, all right. Well, as.
- [30:53]
Derek Pendergast
I think that's all the more reason you should get something. I think it's hilarious.
- [30:57]
Cole
Game's not that hard. I won the pool. I just. I. Yeah, it's a.
- [31:03]
Derek Pendergast
It's.
- [31:03]
Cole
It bores me. Not because it's a boring game, but because it's too easy.
- [31:06]
Ethan
It's like a Scantron for you, just circling and then see all the time and.
- [31:08]
Cole
Yeah, and get 100. It's like, oh, yeah, there's 85.
- [31:11]
Derek Pendergast
J.J. watt was at the World cup final over the weekend. He was also on social media a little bit over the weekend as well. Okay, so is JJ out of bounds for doing this on social media? And he's. Is he the coolest guy ever for doing this other thing on social media over the weekend? We will discuss. We'll find out. Speaking of the guys on in the Loop, find out what they've got going on.
- [31:29]
Cole
Coming up, Sports Radio 610 presents live from the West Point Lincoln and West Point Lincoln of Sugarland Studios. Here's Pain and Pendergast.
- [31:39]
Derek Pendergast
Hi. Pain and Pendergast with you. So J.J. watt. J.J. watt had an interesting weekend. We start the weekend as Thursday. An interesting weekend on social media.
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Oregon Lottery Announcer
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- [31:48]
Derek Pendergast
I'll start with the. The part that he. He got some blowback for this.
- [31:52]
Cole
He did.
- [31:53]
Derek Pendergast
I didn't have a big. I didn't have a big issue with it.
- [31:55]
Ethan
He was just kind of no issue with this.
- [31:56]
Derek Pendergast
He was just taking up for his wife.
- [31:58]
Fan/Caller
Yeah.
- [31:58]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah. But there are some people like, hey man. So apparently he and Kaylia and Koa, their older son, made the trip out to Salt Lake, it looks like, to go to a real Salt Lake game.
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Cole
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Derek Pendergast
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Cole
Hi, my name is Lloyd Lockridge and I'm the host of a new podcast
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Ethan
from Odyssey called Family Lore.
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Cole
In this podcast I'm going to have people on to tell unusual and sometimes far fetched stories about their families.
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Cole
And then we're going to investigate those stories and find out how much of it is true.
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Derek Pendergast
He gets a patent one month before the Wright Brothers. Oh my God.
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Cole
Please follow and listen to Family Lore, an Odyssey podcast available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your shows. Lemonade sings a pet insurance customer review.
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Derek Pendergast
My new puppy swallowed a bone.
- [33:39]
Cole
Still a good boy though. And boy, was I glad that I had lemonade.
- [33:48]
Ethan
I was paid back quickly and efficiently.
- [33:52]
Cole
Everyone was so nice.
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Ethan
Get the pet insurance
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Cole
and get a'@lemonade.com
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Derek Pendergast
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Ethan
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Derek Pendergast
If you're interested in what's happening with
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Ethan
all the places where you consume sports, the sports media podcast has you covered.
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Derek Pendergast
I've been turning down interviews all week. Coda Copy reached out Oprah, George Stephanopoulos. So I said no. I was booked on the Deitch podcast before the Taylor Swift phenomenon. I must live up to my responsibility. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. MLS game and they tweeted a picture of JJ and his family coming down the tunnel. Walking down the tunnel, the team did, and they said, welcome to the riot at J.J. watt and fam with the emoji. The smiling emoji with the hearts over the eyes. And I didn't know this about Kaylee Watt, his. His wife. I didn't. I didn't. I knew she was. I didn't know the geography involved. JJ comment tweets. This tweet Real Salt Lake, which again, is them welcoming him and his family to the game and. But only tagging him. Just calling it J.J. watt and fam. J.J. says the woman in the photo grew up literally down the road. Won four Utah state championships, one in this exact stadium. Gatorade player of the year, twice national player of the year, Scored the fastest first goal in U.S. women's national team history. Could probably be worth a mention, but Idk. But I don't know. That's kind of like a verbal or like a written shrug emotion.
- [35:36]
Cole
Yeah. Yeah. There's a little bit passive aggressive. May maybe.
- [35:39]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah.
- [35:40]
Cole
He's saying something nice about you.
- [35:42]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah, so he was just. So he's, you know, he's taking up for his wife.
- [35:45]
Cole
Yeah, right, right, right.
- [35:45]
Derek Pendergast
She's. It was almost like he's saying she's the real star.
- [35:48]
Cole
Yeah, yeah. He does that pretty. Especially in the soccer context. Yeah, he's. He does a good job.
- [35:52]
Ethan
Especially because if she grew up in the state and she has ties to the game itself.
- [35:56]
Derek Pendergast
Four straight state championships.
- [35:59]
Cole
Welcome back to Kalia. Welcome J.J. watt. And welcome back to K. Should has
- [36:04]
Derek Pendergast
been tagging her and fam.
- [36:05]
Cole
Yeah.
- [36:05]
Fan/Caller
Yeah.
- [36:05]
Ethan
Welcome Kia. Oh, and this guy.
- [36:07]
Oregon Lottery Announcer
Guy.
- [36:07]
Derek Pendergast
This guy.
- [36:08]
Cole
The problem is that the social media person who did this is probably somebody who's 22 years old and didn't, you know, might not have even grown up in Utah.
- [36:15]
Derek Pendergast
Of course, that's a good chance that happened that they aren't from Utah and that they're. They don't even know that she's a soccer player. Okay.
- [36:23]
Cole
Like. And not to mention, KOA scored three
- [36:25]
Derek Pendergast
goals in his game yesterday wearing a Utah jersey. So does the fact that I'm not sure we have enough time to read Real Salt Lake's apology mean they may have over apologized a little bit on this.
- [36:39]
Oregon Lottery Announcer
This.
- [36:39]
Derek Pendergast
We made an honest mistake yesterday, and we are sincerely sorry for that. When we welcomed the Watt family to America First Field, we should have recognized Kaylee Awat for exactly who she is. And then does two paragraphs. Oh, damn.
- [36:52]
Fan/Caller
They did.
- [36:53]
Derek Pendergast
On her resume. They even had college. She started four years At North Carolina. Like, they did. This is like a bio you would see in a media guy.
- [37:01]
Ethan
Right.
- [37:01]
Derek Pendergast
For somebody and then tags both of them and says, we are deeply sorry. Thank you for all you do for the sport.
- [37:07]
Cole
Yeah.
- [37:08]
Derek Pendergast
So did they over apologize here? Do you think JJ felt like afterwards, like, okay, well, that wasn't totally necessary.
- [37:13]
Cole
Like, I don't know, the whole thing is. Whatever.
- [37:18]
Derek Pendergast
Okay.
- [37:20]
Cole
I don't think they over apologize. Okay.
- [37:22]
Derek Pendergast
I mean, I'm like, boy, they went deep.
- [37:23]
Ethan
I meant.
- [37:24]
Derek Pendergast
And pasted the whole bio in there.
- [37:25]
Ethan
No offense. How many people are watching an MLS bio. I mean, an MLS Twitter account, to figure out if. For a long term.
- [37:31]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah, yeah. No, I could see, like one. Like one or two. Sentence, apology.
- [37:34]
Cole
Yeah.
- [37:34]
Derek Pendergast
Like, you know, we grade it all.
- [37:35]
Ethan
This is an NFL team. I understand it.
- [37:36]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah.
- [37:37]
Ethan
Who's paying attention to the MLS during the World cup, of all places.
- [37:40]
Derek Pendergast
See, the other thing we can discuss with J.J. watt on social media was him going back and taking a picture with a fan.
- [37:48]
Cole
Who?
- [37:49]
Derek Pendergast
The fan's name is Douglas Sandstorm. And he tweeted this. He was at a bar in New York because JJ went from Utah to New York for the World cup final.
- [37:58]
Ethan
Yeah.
- [37:59]
Derek Pendergast
And he says, not proud of it. Man enough to say it, though. I had breakfast this morning in Greenwich Village, and a man sat next to me on his own. Somebody I idolized growing up watching the NFL. But out of respect, like a scared little girl, I didn't even ask for a picture. Not proud of it. Man enough to say it. Have a great day in New York at J.J. watt.
- [38:19]
Cole
Yeah.
- [38:19]
Derek Pendergast
So he tagged on, and basically I was too chicken to walk up to you. Didn't want to bother him or whatever. JJ replies and he says. Or he retweets it and he says, are you still in the area? And the two of them were able to find each other.
- [38:29]
Cole
Yeah. Jay. The next picture from that guy was a picture of him standing next to J.J. watt in a bar.
- [38:34]
Ethan
The only thing he asked was, order me a Guinness. I'll be there.
- [38:37]
Cole
Yeah. Oh, that's what he said.
- [38:38]
Ethan
So he said, order me again. So I'll be there in 15. Got the photo. What I thought was so funny is because they were both there for the World Cup. This guy is from Australia, so he loves football so much that it's just. He's a Texans fan. As a J.J. watts stand from Australia going to the World cup game, what
- [38:53]
Cole
they didn't show was the DMS where JJ demanded that this guy list Kalia's accomplishments before he showed up.
- [39:00]
Derek Pendergast
You know, you really should be wanting to take a picture.
- [39:02]
Cole
You're here for soccer.
- [39:04]
Derek Pendergast
You should be wanting to take a picture with a soccer player. She scored however many goals in this stadium. Yeah.
- [39:11]
Ethan
Did you guys see George Kittle commented on it?
- [39:13]
Derek Pendergast
I. I did. Well, I saw George Kittle. Did he comment on this?
- [39:18]
Ethan
So he's. He, quote, tweeted and said, where's my photo? And then JJ took a selfie with the guy and said, I found you, bro. At the bar.
- [39:25]
Derek Pendergast
The. The of the guy. Because the guy we're talking about looks
- [39:28]
Cole
a little bit like George Kittle.
- [39:29]
Derek Pendergast
Looks a lot like George.
- [39:30]
Ethan
Long hair, giant beard.
- [39:32]
Cole
George Kittle. Yet another one of the current NFL players who tweeted out a. Of the field. What do they call it? The kit? No, the pitch. Excuse me, the pitch. And said, hey, looks great. Why don't you do this for football? To which I have to restrain myself from pointing out because the average soccer player weighs 165 pounds. I tore two of my hamstring tendons off my pelvis on a temporary grass field at NRG Stadium because it was such crappy grass and it's not built to handle 900 pounds of, like, I was taking on a combo block on turf that gave out from underneath. Did I sue? No.
- [40:09]
Derek Pendergast
So field turf is actually safer from that standpoint?
- [40:12]
Cole
I think so, yeah. If I were.
- [40:14]
Ethan
I thought MetLife had, like, the most injuries. Like, it was voted on as the most dangerous place to play for football.
- [40:18]
Cole
Yeah, like, but that. They're turf crap.
- [40:22]
Derek Pendergast
Their football turf. That's where CJ CJ Bounced his. Got his head. Yeah, man. Yeah. The guy says, Douglas Sandstorm a day I'll never forget. The goat himself, JJ Watt came to O' Hara and put down a pint of Guinness in 1.5 seconds just to get a picture with me. I don't know if he's being literal about that.
- [40:40]
Ethan
Would it shock if he was, though?
- [40:41]
Derek Pendergast
1.5 is tough.
- [40:42]
Cole
I don't think it's 1 point. Yeah. 1.5 is kind of world class.
- [40:45]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah.
- [40:46]
Cole
I used to be pretty good at. I can't remember my.
- [40:48]
Ethan
Yeah, you're chugging Guinness, too. Of all things that you want to go.
- [40:51]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah, it's chugging motor oil, man. Truly grateful for this moment. A story I'll tell my family and friends for the rest of my life. So there you go. So, J.J. watt on social media over the weekend. Weekend fan fanatics fest, I believe, is over now. Yeah, we didn't get as much stuff out of it this year as we did last year. Of course, last year we're Rocket fans. So we got Kevin Durant getting traded to the Rockets literally in the middle of one of his Q and A's, that he was doing the biggest thing we got yesterday, and I know this because we've had ESPN on. In the studio all morning, and they've treated it like it was headline news was Cam Scatterbo doing a backflip. A standing backflip.
- [41:27]
Cole
Yeah.
- [41:27]
Derek Pendergast
Landing somewhat awkwardly and falling on his ass.
- [41:31]
Cole
Yeah.
- [41:31]
Ethan
Yeah.
- [41:33]
Derek Pendergast
And keep in mind, for those who don't know, Cam Scatterbo had a broken tibia and some other injury last year, like a really bad injury to. To his legs last year. So obviously what he was doing. There are a lot of Giant fans there. Fanatics Fest is in New York, and you could tell, you know, before he did it, he pulled the pant leg up to show off the knee as if to say, look good as new, and then does the back flip clip. Cam Scatterbo is not a smart person.
- [41:58]
Cole
No, of course he's a big. That's what people love about him. Yeah, he's just a big meathead.
- [42:02]
Derek Pendergast
Yes.
- [42:02]
Cole
He's kind of like a young Gronk in a lot of ways, and there's an appeal to that.
- [42:06]
Ethan
He's Gen Z Gronk.
- [42:07]
Cole
That's what we're going with.
- [42:08]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah. See, I think. I think Gronk is actually. I think Gronk is actually somewhat intelligent. I don't know that Scatterbo is. Scatterbo might be legitimately dumb.
- [42:17]
Cole
Yeah. But they like that. But people love image of a big, happy meathead.
- [42:22]
Ethan
There's people out there that call him Brank.
- [42:24]
Commercial Announcer
Brain dead.
- [42:24]
Cole
Yeah. Well, okay, he.
- [42:27]
Derek Pendergast
Real quick audio. He was asked by somebody in the media, Scatterbo, when he was doing one of these interviews, do you like the wild man image that you've been. You've been given?
- [42:35]
Cole
Do you enjoy being, like, the wild maniac moniker? Like, is that insulting or is that like.
- [42:42]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah, no, I. I totally enjoy that part. I think I less enjoy the brain dead kind of guy. But it is what it is. I mean, the New York people love it, so I'm just gonna keep being me. And if they want to say I'm braindead and I don't have no brain, then who cares?
- [42:59]
Cole
Yeah. Yeah. Who cares? New York people love brain dead people. Yeah. World record for chugging a beer is 1.3 seconds. JJ might have a second career world class as a world class beer chugger.
- [43:11]
Ethan
Textline says it's easier to chug Guinness than anything else because it's nitro beard and it doesn't have carbonation.
- [43:15]
Cole
It doesn't. Yeah. The carbonation is what gets it.
- [43:17]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah. Someone said the same texter that you just read Cole said buddy of mine did his ring dun the Aggie thing where you dump the, you drop the ring 48 ounces, 13.6. In Guinness, it's 48 ounces, 48 ounces in 13.6 seconds.
- [43:31]
Cole
There's a, the technique. There's a technique for it that's impossible to describe without it becoming a horrible drop that would be used against me. So yeah, there's. Whenever you talk about or learn about chugging a beer, it's kind of. Yeah. You don't, don't say it out loud because it'll be used against you.
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Commercial Announcer
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- [43:48]
Derek Pendergast
I, I looked at that fanatics fest session yesterday. Scatterbo and Jackson Dart were both doing an interview with somebody. I didn't see who the interviewer was. And I just look at that. I'm like, oh, I don't know how I would do as a Giants fan knowing these are the two. You have Cam Scatterbo.
- [44:04]
Cole
Yeah.
- [44:04]
Derek Pendergast
Who likes to bang his head. Literally likes to bang his head on walls before games.
- [44:09]
Ethan
Say it's a pregame ritual.
- [44:11]
Derek Pendergast
Bangs his head on walls before games. And then you have Jackson Tyler, who likes to bang his head off of other players when he's scrambling in the open field.
- [44:18]
Cole
I think the thing about the thing what's so appealing for those guys, I think for Giants fans especially, is they don't. Giants fans are, as a credit to them, I think, pretty realistic about what that team is going to be this year. You don't see a lot of Giants fans saying that they're going to win the, win the super bowl or anything.
- [44:35]
Derek Pendergast
No.
- [44:36]
Cole
But they trust that John Harbaugh is the right guy to lead them into being a more respectable team. So I think they, they just really love like they're not thinking about 10 years from now. They're thinking about can I watch some fun competitive football this year? And maybe Jackson Dart only has an eight year career. I don't want to think that too far in the future. I just want to see a guy that can make some incredible plays well while he's still alive.
- [44:56]
Ethan
Where does your brain go if you are John Harbaugh watching that backflip though?
- [44:59]
Derek Pendergast
If, if, if I, if I'm John,
- [45:01]
Ethan
if I'm John Harbaugh watching that back,
- [45:03]
Derek Pendergast
I'm nowhere near, dude. I'm, I'm driving To fanatics fest. To grab cam Scatterboat by the shirt. Like, what are you doing, man?
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- [45:10]
Derek Pendergast
What are you thinking?
- [45:11]
Cole
I have a hard time. I don't. It's. It's tough because I've never done backflip successfully outside of, you know, when there wasn't water or foam. Foam cushioning involved. Yeah. Like, I don't. Is it really that big a deal if you're good at doing it? I mean, it's not like the. If you practice a bunch, it's not like the. It's. It's not like you're falling from a ten foot.
- [45:30]
Ethan
You better land on both feet, though. That's.
- [45:32]
Derek Pendergast
Well. And he did, but he stumbled. I think that's the big thing, the optics of yesterday.
- [45:36]
Cole
Yeah.
- [45:36]
Derek Pendergast
Did it happen yesterday?
- [45:37]
Cole
The fact that he stumbled? If he stuck the landing, it would be different.
- [45:39]
Derek Pendergast
He stuck the landing. Yeah. If he stuck the land, I would still think it's dumb to do, but Giants fans would have been like, yeah.
- [45:45]
Cole
I give Kamari credit. Kamari knows that if you don't stick it, you go down into that Wolverine pose. Remember, he did that. Was it. Was it Kamari doing it? Yeah, Kamari did the backflip and he kind of. He didn't do a full backflip, but he kind of landed in that pose. And. And Caleb Bullock's just kind of watching him.
- [46:03]
Ethan
Really cool. Fun.
- [46:04]
Cole
Fun thing.
- [46:05]
Ethan
No more.
- [46:06]
Derek Pendergast
Yep. All right. Reggie Attatula, John Lopez, they are here. They are in the loop. You're listening to KLTM, KLTFMHD 2. Houston An Odyssey Sports Station crosstalk.
- [46:15]
Cole
Nice clementines, Reginald.
- [46:17]
Derek Pendergast
DNM Auto. Thanks, man.
- [46:19]
Cole
Don't try.
- [46:19]
Fan/Caller
I'm trying to fight off scurvy, you know, I want to make sure that.
- [46:22]
Derek Pendergast
How many does he have?
- [46:23]
Cole
He's got two little. Little clementines.
- [46:24]
Derek Pendergast
Okay. Don't eat too many. Right. If you eat too many of them, that's not good for you.
- [46:28]
Cole
Oh, yeah, yeah. He's got two.
- [46:29]
Derek Pendergast
He's just got two.
- [46:30]
Cole
No, it's not bad for you. It's better than, you know, you know, eight Snickers bars. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you guys avoiding a bag of oranges?
- [46:37]
Derek Pendergast
Oh, yeah, I got you.
- [46:38]
Cole
Are you guys avoiding lettuce?
- [46:40]
Derek Pendergast
Oh, hell no. Well, you could have asked me this, like, 10 years ago, saying, yeah.
- [46:44]
Cole
For these reasons.
- [46:45]
Derek Pendergast
Yeah, yeah. Am I avoiding lettuce?
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Commercial Announcer
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- [46:47]
Derek Pendergast
For my entire life, I was.
- [46:48]
Cole
Oh, yeah. Young man at Freddy's saved my life yesterday.
- [46:51]
Derek Pendergast
What happened?
- [46:51]
Cole
Because I ordered a burger with lettuce, tomato and onion. That's what you get said, sir, we can't do the lettuce because you care about me. He's like, no, we just don't have it.
- [46:59]
Ethan
I was a teenager in the late 2000s that drank actual four locos. My stomach's already gonna be screwed up.
- [47:04]
Fan/Caller
Yeah.
- [47:04]
Ethan
Lettuce can't kill it at this point.
- [47:06]
Cole
I'm kind of at this point hoping for the parasite or whatever that is
- [47:09]
Derek Pendergast
to see what it's like. Well, see what all the hype is about.
- [47:11]
Cole
It's one of my best weight loss strategies is getting the flu every now and then and you lose £20. And I know a lot of it's water weight, but if you don't eat that whole time. Yeah, you lose a bunch of weight.
- [47:21]
Fan/Caller
You do have the mental capacity to get through. I've heard people talking about it firsthand. It sounds like it is gnarly.
- [47:27]
Cole
Yeah, I probably shouldn't.
- [47:28]
Derek Pendergast
Oh, this virus. Yeah.
- [47:29]
Fan/Caller
Yeah, this one sounds like it. It affects your mental, but not directly. It's just it. It breaks your will to keep going.
- [47:34]
Cole
Really? Yeah.
- [47:35]
Derek Pendergast
I knew I was ahead of my time.
- [47:36]
Cole
I take it back.
- [47:37]
Derek Pendergast
Avoiding lettuce all these years, Never wrong. That's what I've been saying. Been telling you guys for years, what with all the lettuce. Okay, so do we know what Seth's grand prize is going to be for winning the. The annual. Well, the. What's the word?
- [47:54]
Cole
Don't say first annual.
- [47:55]
Derek Pendergast
No, no, no. Every four years. The. Every four years.
- [47:59]
Cole
The quadrennial.
- [47:59]
Derek Pendergast
The quadrennial. Reggie and John in the loop pool. What is his prize?
- [48:03]
Cole
So you had Cabo Verde, Egypt, Spain, and Switzerland. Yeah. So you get to pick any of those countries, and we'll get you a gift card to one of those restaurants.
- [48:13]
Commercial Announcer
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- [48:13]
Cole
Oh, yeah.
- [48:14]
Derek Pendergast
You've been talking about wanting to go to that awesome Swiss restaurant.
- [48:19]
Ethan
What?
- [48:20]
Cole
The candy store with my leader hosing on.
- [48:23]
Ethan
Yeah.
- [48:24]
Cole
You're been to that cool Cabo Verde place over in Kirby. Be. Would it be like, what is it? What are my other countries?
- [48:31]
Derek Pendergast
Countries?
- [48:32]
Cole
Switzerland. Spain and Egypt.
- [48:35]
Ethan
Egypt.
- [48:36]
Cole
Oh, I don't know what Egyptian food is like.
- [48:38]
Fan/Caller
Well, you're about to find out.
- [48:40]
Cole
Okay, pick a country. Pick a country.
- [48:42]
Derek Pendergast
Egypt.
- [48:43]
Cole
Yeah, I'll try to find an Egyptian place.
- [48:44]
Derek Pendergast
Egyptian restaurant. Okay. Yeah. All right. Congratulations, Seth.
- [48:49]
Cole
It's probably going to be like a taco stand at a gas station.
- [48:52]
Derek Pendergast
We're going to Disney World. Yeah.
- [48:56]
Cole
Rolling and doing the King Tut dance and everything. Just be a real jerk about it.
- [49:00]
Fan/Caller
There will be some cash outside of this, so that, you know.
- [49:02]
Cole
Know you.
- [49:03]
Fan/Caller
You don't. You don't feel like you're boxing.
- [49:04]
Cole
No, I don't. I didn't expect any cash.
- [49:06]
Derek Pendergast
Hey, speaking of the. I would have if I had one. Just to be clear, what will this. We were talking about this a little earlier this hour. What will this World cup be most remembered for, do you think? Not non soc. Non soccer. Like, not, like, hey, the fight in Argentina in some of these games, like, all the themes for, like, the last six or seven weeks. Like, there's been a lot around this World Cup.
- [49:28]
Cole
Well, there has been. And I'm thinking, obviously here, first of all, the Americans rise and fall, you know, just in general. But I think it. The buzz.
- [49:36]
Commercial Announcer
Yeah.
- [49:37]
Cole
Like this actually. And that's actually something we're going to talk about today at some point. Like, was it good for you? Was it enough for you to come back, even just casually here and there, you know, for soccer, for me, it
- [49:46]
Derek Pendergast
was like, I legitimately miss the. Just the content during the day. Like, I liked, I liked walking into places. There's a game on. I liked being at home. Turn on. There's a game on. And I got into it. It was, it was, it was a lot of fun. I think that's what it'll be. I, I do, too. I think just the, the love affair with America for several weeks, part of
- [50:06]
Cole
it, too, is like, it's different because it was in Houston as well. So that makes it different, too. That makes it a lot different.
- [50:12]
Derek Pendergast
Yep. It's almost like a subset of the fact that it was in the United States.
- [50:15]
Fan/Caller
Yeah, that was the thing that I was going to point to was not just that it's the World cup, but being able to host it, I think got a lot more people into the spirit of it. Got you kind of get more of a feel. It's not just, hey, this is an event that everybody cares about. You felt it because. Because even if you were not invested in it, you went down to get yourself some barbecue and you're like, look at all these people here that are experiencing this because you see all these beef ribs that aren't typically ordered, and you go, okay. They're very much acclimating to our culture or getting some feel of it. And I think that that drew some people in. I think it's those things. It's, it's, it's the Scottish. Absolutely ravishing. Boston. It's, it's the Iran. You walk down, down Greenbrier.
- [50:49]
Derek Pendergast
The Norwegians.
- [50:50]
Fan/Caller
Yeah. Rowing.
- [50:51]
Cole
Right.
- [50:52]
Derek Pendergast
Sitting on the dirty, grimy floor. Of the subway in New York. Rowing, I think.
- [50:56]
Fan/Caller
I think those are the things that are going to be in I thought
- [50:58]
Ethan
it was cool that for the first time it felt like that you weren't meeting people like from New York or Kansas.
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Cole
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Derek Pendergast
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Cole
Because this ad is 30 seconds, I can't get into everything I'm FDA approved
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Derek Pendergast
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Cole
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Cole
There's only one Ozempic.
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