TikTok Trend Makes Us Want a Doc on the Easterby Experience

Summary

Payne & Pendergast Podcast Summary

Episode: "TikTok Trend Makes Us Want a Doc on the Easterby Experience"

Date: July 13, 2026
Hosts: Seth Payne & Sean Pendergast
Network: Audacy

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Episode Overview

This episode delves into a humorous but poignant TikTok trend referencing the Houston Texans’ controversial "Easterby era." The hosts discuss a viral DeAndre Hopkins TikTok, the trauma and curiosity surrounding former Texans executive Jack Easterby, and what a documentary on his time would look like. The conversation touches on lessons from that period, organizational dysfunction, and the path to the Texans’ current stability. The second part shifts gears to a lighthearted animal power ranking discussion, covering which seemingly friendly animals are actually most dangerous.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The DeAndre Hopkins TikTok & Easterby Era Reflection

[01:23–11:51]

• TikTok Trend Introduction:

  • The viral TikTok features DeAndre Hopkins sitting in his kitchen, mockumentary-style "preparing for the Netflix doc on surviving a pastor turned NFL general manager."
  • Sean confesses he hadn't seen the trend during his vacation; Seth flagged it for him.

• Jack Easterby’s Time with the Texans:

  • The hosts reflect on Easterby’s chaotic tenure, describing it as traumatic, but also the difficult journey that led the team to a much better place today.
  • Sean: "If this is what you had to go through to get to where they are now… it would have been nice to not have to go through that. But if the price you pay is it, you’ve got the roster they have now…” (03:08)
  • Seth: “It is one of those kind of things that in a long and winding path to get to a good spot, there was a lot of weird and crazy stuff that happened along the way.” (03:58)

• How Dangerous and Dysfunctional It Was:

  • Seth describes Easterby’s manipulation, lack of clear job description, and how organizational paranoia peaked.
  • He recounts red flags:
    • Easterby promoted as a “player-relations” guy, while reporting everything to Bill O'Brien—“It’d be like if your psychologist was also going to tell everything to your boss.” (04:40)
    • Easterby listing himself as "assistant GM in Jacksonville" without recognition from actual Jags staff: “Nobody knew who the hell he was. It was for like a few months or something..." (05:35)
  • Fear and paranoia reigned: “People were so intent on claiming media was mis-portraying this… but I’m talking to… players… who were so terrified… They knew Easterby… would say anything to get what he wanted.” (05:34–06:32)

• No Guardrails & Out-of-the-Box Decisions:

  • Organizational chaos is likened to "not even having a box anymore," mocking Easterby’s supposed ‘outside-the-box’ thinking.
  • Seth: “When you have out-of-the-box trade after out-of-the-box trade, after a while… you’re not outside the box—you’re just homeless.” (07:48–08:00)

• Will There Ever Be a Documentary?

  • Sean would love to see one for the sheer dramatic arc; Seth is skeptical: “People are still paranoid about saying anything about him… I would love it if he would sue me, because I’d love to get this dude deposed.” (08:47–09:09)
  • Easterby’s classic manipulation: “The kind of person… who claimed you said something… then tells someone else you said something about them… but the meeting to clarify never actually happens.” (09:20)
  • Good people were either "fired or just quit because, what the hell’s going on with this?" (10:21)

• Turning Point:

  • Seth remembers the marginalization of Easterby at the Lovey Smith hiring, as the organization (and possibly Caserio) "had eyes opened" about Easterby's true methods. (10:23–11:24)

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2. Organization Healing & Legacy

[11:24–11:51]

• Combo with the Deshaun Watson saga:
  • “This period of time is one of the more interesting timelines in an NFL team’s history—no doubt about that.” (11:51)

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3. Animal Power Rankings: Friendly-Looking but Deadly

[13:09–21:55]

• Bison Attack Viral Video:

  • Recap of a viral video featuring a Yellowstone bison tossing a grandfather—hosts use it as springboard to discuss which animals are wrongly perceived as safe.
  • Bison’s aggression explained by mating season (“rut”) and how most people would not suspect their speed or power.

• ChatGPT Power Ranking – “Looks Friendly Until It's Not”:

  • #1 Bison: "Looks like a giant fuzzy cow… can run 35 mph and weigh up to 2,000 lbs.” (16:51)
  • #2 Moose: People think they act like deer; totally false.
  • #3 Hippopotamus: "The most dangerous large mammal in Africa… faster than Olympic sprinters over short distances." (17:52)
  • #4 Elephant: Sometimes gentle, but wild bulls can charge at 25 mph.
  • #5 Elk: "Apparently during their rut… total psychos.” (19:18)
  • Other mentions: Brown bear (#6: “If you’re not scared of a grizzly… you’re a damn fool.”), cassowary (dangerous Australian bird), Canada goose, swans, sea lions, Cape buffalo, wild boar, seals, dolphins (dangerous in unexpected ways).
  • Favorite anecdote: Seth admits to being chased by a swan as a kid: “I’ll ring its neck. I'll kill it dead… that thing is going home, snapping that neck.” (21:03)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Easterby’s legacy:

  • Seth: "When you have out of the box trade after out of the box trade... you’re not outside the box, you’re just homeless.” (08:00)
  • Sean: "It would have been nice to not have to go through that. But if the price you pay is it, you’ve got the roster they have now…” (03:08)
  • Seth (re: documentary): "I would love it if he would sue me, because I’d love to get this dude deposed.” (09:09)

• On animals:

  • Sean, on bison: "Bison was number one in the power rankings. Probably a little recency bias there... It looks like a giant fuzzy cow and it often just stands around eating grass." (16:39)
  • Seth, on childhood fear: "I used to get chased around by a swan on my dad’s farm... they're pretty and all, but I’ll ring its neck. I’ll kill it dead." (21:03)
  • Seth, on dolphins: "They're not gonna kill you, but they’re gonna love you.” (21:55)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:23] – Introduction to TikTok Easterby doc trend
• [03:08] – Reflection on enduring the Easterby era for better days
• [04:40] – Red flags and Easterby’s duplicity
• [05:35] – Jacksonville ‘assistant GM’ story
• [07:48] – Out-of-the-box/homeless analogy
• [08:47] – Why a documentary will likely never happen
• [09:20] – Manipulative tactics inside the organization
• [10:23] – Pivotal moment: Lovey Smith hiring & Easterby marginalized
• [13:09] – Bison attack video/animal danger power rankings
• [16:39–21:55] – Detailed animal rankings, anecdotes
• [21:03] – Seth’s swan anecdote
• [21:44] – Dolphins as surprisingly dangerous

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Tone and Language

• Bantering, humorous, unfiltered: The hosts blend sharp NFL analysis with personal stories and comic analogies.
• Relatable: Analogies, candid recollections, and joking barbs reflect the style listeners expect.

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Conclusion

This episode offers a cathartic—and darkly funny—look back at the infamous Jack Easterby era and revels in how far the Texans have come, all through the lens of a trending TikTok. The animal rankings segment showcases the show’s balance of sports insight and entertaining, offbeat diversions. Even for listeners unfamiliar with the intricacies of Texans history, the episode provides an accessible, engaging, and memorable hour on discomfort, healing, and not trusting oversized birds.

Transcript

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[C]

I had not seen this TikTok trend that's been going on, but I think it's funny now that I know it exists. It was brought to my attention by Seth C. Payne, who sent me the tweet from Chancellor Johnson, Formerly of Channel 2 here in town, who posted the video of former Texans wide receiver Deandre Hopkins sitting down on a stool in what looks to be his kitchen, which is, I guess, where he would sit if a documentary crew were in his house to interview him. Um, and the caption on the caption on the short TikTok video where Deandre looks to be kind of talking to an interviewer, is preparing for the Netflix doc on surviving a pastor turned NFL general manager.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, there's a trend on TikTok where they just do. Yeah. Like, make it look like you're. Like you're conducting a Netflix documentary.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's.

[C]

It was.

[B]

It was out of nowhere a nice little reminder to. Of one of the most traumatic ordeals that this young organization has been through. And a lot of people laughed at it. A lot of other people cited PTSD, and they were mad at DeAndre for even bringing it up.

[C]

I think it's okay. Like, if this team were still. This is how I feel about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And we can talk about how compelling this documentary would actually be, because when you sent it to me, Seth, I didn't know about the TikTok.

[B]

I assumed you knew it was.

[C]

I didn't know. I mean, I was pretty good at staying off the grid on this vacation. Better than normal.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I hadn't seen it. Amy probably had.

[B]

I think she got super excited. You thought it was going to be a real documentary?

[C]

No. I could tell just by the nature of the video. Like, this probably looks like a joke. I just didn't know for sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But part of me. I even said to you when I replied in the text, I'm like, it would be a pretty good documentary. But. Yeah. So. So, yeah. DeAndre sitting down here, my. My reaction when it comes to people bringing up Easter B era stuff, because obviously that's who he's referring to here, the pastor turned gm, is that they're in such a good place now that if this is what you had to go through to get to where they are now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Then. Okay. You know, it would have been nice to not have to go through that. But if the price you pay is it, you've got the roster they have now, you've got d' Amico Ryan's as your head coach. Front office seems to be in pretty good shape, too.

[B]

Well, and it was. And it was really. I mean, it was. He's the reason Casario is the GM of the.

[C]

Ironically. Yeah.

[B]

That's so. I mean, so depending on how you feel about Casario, I think that. I think the meter is still pretty positive with most fans on stereo.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Right now. I mean, it is. It is one of those kind of things that in a long and winding path to get to a good spot, there was a lot of weird and crazy stuff that happened along the way.

[C]

There was. Yeah.

[B]

That.

[C]

That's the. The irony in the whole thing.

[B]

So kind of almost like the. The way you had a psychotic ex girlfriend that made you realize, oh, okay, I need to. I need to. I need to date a woman who ends up being like your. Your wife, you know, like, oh, okay, I've learned some lessons about what not to do.

[C]

Yeah. What was the low point for you during that whole thing? Like, the whole. Was it just one big low point for you? You. You. I will credit you. You were one of the first ones to point out the sociopathic ways of.

[B]

Well, the biggest. I mean, immediate. I. I was kind of going through this in my head and like, okay, when did I realize there was something off about Easterby? And originally there were two things. One was that they were touting him as this guy who was so good at relating to the players and guys would confide him and everything, but that he was also the guy that was reporting everything to Bill o'. Brien. Well, what do you think There's a recipe for disaster. It'd be like if you. Like if your psychologist was also going to tell every single thing to your boss that you relay to your psychologist. But the other one, the big one, the big red flag for me immediately was that the. He was listed when they first hired him as the assistant GM in Jacksonville. And when I called and asked people in Jacksonville about this Jack Easterby, they're like, your guess is as good as ours, Seth. I have no idea who this guy is.

[C]

He worked for the Jags in some.

[B]

No, he was like an intern for a little bit.

[C]

That's what I mean. But he was like. He was.

[B]

He didn't even work for. He called himself the assistant gm and it was not anything close to that. Yeah, not even close to it. Nobody knew who the hell he was. It was for like a few months or something, and then it was just. Still, stuff would start to filter in it. But I got to the point where I just laid off of it because people were so. People were so intent on claiming that the media was mis. Portraying this and everything. And meanwhile, I'm talking to people in the organization and players and everything who are so terrified to like, they were. It was almost like it felt like wartime. They're like, people knew that this Easter be guy had so much power and would say anything to get what he wanted that people were very, very careful to. To say anything about him because he was so adept at just creating this tapestry of misinformation that would. That. That he could. That people got rolled out of the organization for speaking up.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. The thing that, the. The part that I think of, there's two things. One, I think back to the very beginning when he was here and there was, you know, it was like OTAs or something and somebody from the staff. I was talking to somebody from the staff who's no longer with the team. So it's not anybody who's still there. But they were telling me, like, boy, he was pursued by however many teams around the NFL that off season. You know, like, he. And he had hired an agent. I think the same agent that a lot of guys have in that patriot tree and things like that. I think Bob is it. Bob Lamont is his name, so.

[B]

Yeah, Bob Lamont Kingmaker.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. And. Yeah. And. And here, you know, he. What. Whatever you want title you want to give Easter be. That was the other thing, too. Is it Anytime anybody asked you what his title was or what he did, nobody ever gave you a straight answer.

[B]

Right, right. Nobody could really tell. He was just all over the place advising everybody about everything.

[C]

And there's something to be said for titles and job descriptions.

[B]

Yeah. You know, there's.

[C]

There is something to be said for guardrails.

[B]

Oh, no, no, no. And he wanted to go in, and he was just. The biggest thing about him, the. The impression I got was that he was one of these guys that he loved outside the box thinking, but meant, but taken to an extreme. That means, like, you're reinventing everything all the time.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, not just because something's outside the box doesn't mean it's a good idea.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

So, like, when you have out of the box trade after out of the box trade after out of the box trade trade, after a while, you're just. You're not outside the box. You're just homeless.

[C]

You're.

[B]

It's a. You're just. You're elegantly framing this thing where, like. No, we actually have no roof over.

[C]

You don't even have a box anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I want you to pay off on your tease because.

[B]

Oh, I don't think there will ever be a documentary.

[C]

Well, yeah, originally I had asked a question. Like, I. When I saw DeAndre Hopkins sitting down in this chair doing this Internet meme, I'm like, that'd be a pretty good documentary, I think, actually, like, especially if the Texans went on to win a Super bowl anytime soon.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, going for, like, the. The whole storyline arc of just how bad it was then and how good it is now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I think, like, from a compelling standpoint, maybe it'd be more compelling to people in Houston than it would. Obviously, it would be more compelling to people in Houston than other places, but it's a fascinating story. I think it'd be a solid like, eight or nine out of 10. But you don't think it'll ever happen?

[B]

I don't think. No, because people are still paranoid about saying anything about him. That's the whole. I. You know, people like, because he might pop up again or point where you're just like, I don't want this guy out waging whatever whisper campaign against Me, I would love it if you would sue me, because I'd love to get this dude deposed. I would love to have him to answer various things that he's doing. What are the odds?

[C]

What are the odds that he would just go ahead and perjure himself?

[B]

Oh, the odds on that. Oh, I would take that bet. Yeah. Oh, my God.

[C]

Minus 1,000, right?

[B]

No, no, no, no. Because you talk to people in the organization, it was always one of those things, this classic. Like, the kind of person that you find out that he claimed you said something. Let's say Easterby is person A, and then person B is somebody else in the organization. And Easterby tells you that person B said something about you. Right. But meanwhile, Easterby tells person B that you said something about person B, and you're like, wait a second. Okay, let's get to the bottom of this. Let's all three of us get together. That meeting would never happen. You know, like, there was, like, when it came time to actually answer for the. He had a. He had a very good way of dodging here and there and to and fro to where he just always had an answer for when he was called on something that he had claimed. And those people. Those people are. Sometimes you just have to wait them out in an organization, it's very frustrating. Or sometimes you just have to just quit. And there were. There were some good people in that organization that either got fired or just quit because what the hell's going on with this?

[C]

It's tough, man. Ye best part.

[B]

No, my favorite moment of the Jack Easterby era was when they hired Lovey Smith, and it was clear that, okay, that was a pivot to an extreme degree.

[C]

Hired him as the head coach, you're saying?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. To hire him as the head coach because something happened then, because remember, at that point, one of the finalists in the job was. What's his face there?

[C]

Brian Flores.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[C]

Oh, Josh McCown.

[B]

Josh McCown. And they end up bailing on that. And remember when they introduced Lovey Smith, you could tell, you show up at that thing, and all of a sudden, Jack Easterby was marginalized. Like, where he had been around and involved in everything before that. All of a sudden, Jack Easterby was just kind of lingering in the wings on various things, and it was just a matter of time before. I think by that point, what had happened is that I know that at least a couple people in the organization, and I suspect Lovey Smith as well, although I don't know about that for sure, had basically just like opened the McNair's eyes to what exactly Jack Easterby was and how he was operating.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And maybe to a certain extent, Nick Casario too. Like they had to Nick Sari. I'd have his eyes opened about what Jack Easterby was doing.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Because you know Jack, basically. Yeah, he brought him here. So that's. Yeah, I think it would be compelling, man, when you combine that with the whole Desean Watson saga as well, like the. Like the 2020 through whatever this Texans era ends up yielding. Period of time is one of the more interesting timelines in an NFL team's history. No doubt about that.

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[C]

Okay. Did you see the guy? I know you did the guy get tossed in the air by the bison in Yellowstone Park?

[B]

Yeah, that was in. How many times.

[C]

How many times you have to watch something like that before you like to confirm that it's not AI? Like, how many sources do you need to go to on something like that to make sure it's because this is. This is cartoonish.

[B]

I hadn't. You know what I think? And I think an actual news source or something had tweeted it. So I figured I didn't suspect it too much that it was AI. That's a good point. I probably should have. I know that from watching people get thrown by bulls and wild animals, I know that it always looks way worse than you even imagine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like you imagine somebody getting tossed by a bull, and in your mind you're like, oh, this is gonna look pretty bad. And it does. Even before AI, you're like, oh, my gosh, how did he flip this guy this high?

[C]

Yeah, I thought so.

[B]

The other thing I suspected, though, when I was about to watch this video was like, all right, I'm gonna see some jackass who is taunting the bison or something. No, this is just some poor old guy who had been like, he had been at the parking with his family or whatever, and this bison was just going crazy.

[C]

For those who, for those who haven't seen it, we'll get. We'll give you the 30 second description of it. There's. It's Yellowstone Park. It's in a part of the park where there are cars driving on a road and the road set. The road actually separates the grandfather and his grandchild. They're standing, I would say at least maybe 50 to 75 yards from this bison, something like that across the street. Just looking at it, you know, made taking a picture with their phone. This gigantic bison is laying on the other side of the road and catches a glimpse of them. And then the tell, apparently, from what I learned from all the zoologists on Twitter, Seth, is it when the bison started wagging its tail, that means troubles coming. When it stands up and its tail goes erect, like up in the air, that means you better get the hell out of Dodge. And this, you brought this up off the air. The grandfather, who's got to be in his 70s or 80s, did a pretty nice job of avoiding this bison by kind of running through the trees for a little bit.

[B]

This little cluster of trees kind of trying to download a little bit. Yeah, I think then I thought that strategy was working out pretty well, but then I think he tried to make a break for it.

[C]

Yeah, and that's.

[B]

There's a thing, though. It's because I think if I. If I read correctly, it said that they're entering the rut up there, which is like the breeding season.

[C]

It is so.

[B]

So the bulls are super aggressive. They got all this testosterone coursing.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And they're just so. He looked at old grandpa as like some kind of competitor. I asked, ain't trying to make love to your bison? No, man. Leave grandpa alone.

[C]

Taken. Yeah, he's taken. The other thing I thought was gramps grandchild that was there. I couldn't tell from a distance if it was grandson or granddaughter, long hair, but like kind of like maybe 13 years old. So it was. And they were in a distance, but I could tell they were wearing a Dolphins jersey. And I'm like, this poor kid's been through enough. You know, being a Dolphins fan, they don't have to watch their grandfather get tossed 15ft in the air by a bison. That had to be traumatic. I asked Chat GPT the power ranking of looks friendly and docile until it's definitely not animals.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. So the especially maybe cartoons have led you to believe.

[C]

Right, right.

[B]

Fun, goofy character, or just the personality

[C]

of it 99% of the time.

[B]

You know, I think with bison. With bison, it's. I think there's enough of it where you kind of like, oh, yeah, cows are generally pretty gentle creatures. Right.

[C]

Bison was number one in the power rankings. Probably a little recency bias there. Like, looks friendly until it's definitely not. Why people underestimate them. It looks like a giant fuzzy cow and it often just stands around eating grass.

[B]

Oh, yeah. They don't look like they're. They're about it, but they just look like they're just. They're just thinking about grazing.

[C]

Yeah. But if they. They weigh up to £2,000 and they can run 35 miles an hour.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So the public misconception. He looks chill. Number two. You ever run into a moose before?

[B]

No. And there's no way I would ever think that I shouldn't be concerned about seeing a moose. Like, you know, I've never, like. What do you mean? Run into one? Like, I've seen him stand. I've seen him standing by the side of the road before.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, where you just realize, like, oh, my God.

[C]

So you've seen one? I've never seen one live.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I've seen them in zoos. Plenty of time.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, they're massive.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Just ridiculously big. I don't see how anybody would ever look at a moose and think, like, oh, no, that, like, that thing might. That thing might murder me without even trying.

[C]

The common misconception is people think they have the behavior of deer. You know, that's the misogyny.

[B]

They're going to run away or they're scared.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, they're scared or whatever. Yeah. So that's number two. Number three, hippopotamus.

[B]

Oh, yeah. And they're nasty.

[C]

The most dangerous large mammal in Africa looks fat, sleepy, and kind of goofy. And I think the cartoons here in the United States, that's definitely an animal. The cartoons don't do justice for the hippo. They're faster than Olympic sprinters over short distances. They're that fast. And they're very territorial. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah, they're well, remember Pablo Escobar? That's one of the big problems in his old estate. He had all these hippos.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

And. And now they're just running free.

[C]

Yep. Number four, elephant.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

People think elephants are gentle giants. Many of them are. But a wild bull elephant will charge at 25 miles an hour.

[B]

You know what I wonder though? I wonder how much of this is dated by this point. Because now because of social media and just reality TV show. Not reality shows, but documentaries and everything, we've all seen a lot of examples of people being charged by these creatures. Yeah, I bet, I bet the. I bet the prime time for people getting murdered by some of these animals where they just didn't know any better was back in the 80s, 90s.

[C]

No. Nature Channel.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Animal Planet wasn't a thing. And it was all Dumbo Was your impression of elephants was Dumbo the flying elephant.

[B]

Right. Hippos is like hungry hippos. Yeah. Like I control them, they don't control me.

[C]

That's exactly right. Number five, elk.

[B]

Oh, I could bet. Yeah. Especially with elk. I think elk. I might be guilty of that because more so than the moose, I might think they act like deer.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. They're just, look, they're just big deer.

[C]

Apparently during their rut, their mating season. Total psychos.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

During their mating season, number six, brown bear. Okay, how are people.

[B]

How is this six? Oh, you know why? Because people assume that that's actually dangerous.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You see a grizzly.

[C]

Yeah.

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If you're not scared of a grizzly when you see it, you're a damn fool.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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I had never heard of this animal before. Number seven. Am I pronouncing this right? Cassowary.

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I don't know if you're pronouncing it right, but that's a bird, right? It's a big, the big black bird.

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It's the world's angriest bird. It looks like an.

[B]

Is it in New Zealand?

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It's. It is. It doesn't. Australia.

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Australia.

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Australia basically treats these things with the respect they deserve is what it says. The reality it looks like an oversized turkey. Reality is it's a six foot tall dinosaur with dagger like claws that can deliver powerful kicks.

[B]

Mm.

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Man. Cassowary. And then, and then Canadian geese apparently are goose. Yeah, can it. Yeah, can it. Canada goose.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know. Your temptation is say Canadian goose. It's Canada goose.

[C]

It's Canada goose.

[B]

Canada goose. Well those things have gotten like they tried to repopulate those and now, and now they become. Used to be like, oh, wow, geese.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

How majestic. How cool.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Now there's like 400 of them on your little league baseball field and in their kind of territory.

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Okay. Honor. Five honorable mentions. I'm going to rapid fire these to you. Tell me which one you would be most scared of. Okay, honorable mentions. Swans, sea lions, Cape buffalo, wild boar, seals.

[B]

I'm terrified of all those seals would be the one that I'd be most guilty of. Like, not addressing it. Addressing it properly with the proper. I used to get chased around by a swan on my dad's farm. Our neighbor had a swan who was super nasty.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was terrified of that swan. So I've known about them. They're pretty and all, but I'll ring its neck. I'll kill it dead. If you come anywhere near me with your swan, that thing is going home snapping that neck. Yeah.

[C]

Yes. There's a video that surfaced this weekend of a couple of sea lions chasing beachgoers in San Diego.

[B]

Over. Sea lion would scare the crap.

[C]

Yeah. And there's a ton of them in San Diego on the beach.

[B]

Yeah. Of all those ones that you just listed, a seal would be the one where I'd be like, oh, I just want to see what it's. I want to see what its fur feels like. It's all slick and everything.

[C]

You'd pull out the beach ball and toss it to it, like, aren't you supposed to balance this on your nose? Yeah.

[B]

Hey, are you the one that helps swimmers when they're drowning, or is that dolphins? Oh, you're drowning me yourself.

[C]

Where's the dolphin?

[B]

Dolphins are another one, though. The dolphins are a big one where people don't realize that they'll. They'll try to make love to you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They're not gonna kill you, but they're gonna love you. Yeah.

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Yep. All right. Coming up next, if you can pick one of these Texans supporting players on offense to take a leap in 20, 26, you get to pick one. We've got five names. I actually got six names. Which one would it be? That's coming up next.

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