What's Dana Brown Thinking as Trade Deadline Approaches? + Russini Traffic Stop Deep Dive

Summary

Payne & Pendergast – Episode Summary
June 30, 2026 | "What's Dana Brown Thinking as Trade Deadline Approaches? + Russini Traffic Stop Deep Dive"

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Seth Payne and Sean Pendergast dive deep into the Houston Astros' trade deadline outlook with insights from GM Dana Brown, analyzing what moves the team may consider given their precarious position in the standings and roster health. The conversation transitions to a play-by-play breakdown of sports journalist Diana Russini’s viral traffic stop body cam footage, dissecting her storytelling versus what the video reveals. The episode balances incisive baseball analysis, humor, and some sharp cultural commentary.

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Astros Trade Deadline: What’s Dana Brown Thinking?

State of the Astros and Trade Deadline Calculus

• The Astros are two games out of the division, 1.5 games out of the last Wild Card spot, "firmly in the mix" for postseason contention (01:30).
• Sean Pendergast: “It's going to be a very interesting trade deadline to see which teams look at themselves and say, we can be a contender and our buyers, or if some of these teams that are, you know, five, six games under .500, if they take a look at themselves in the mirror and say, you know what? We ain't winning. We might make the playoffs. We ain't winning anything this year.”

Dana Brown’s Perspective

• Dana Brown highlights that staying competitive while waiting for injured players to return has kept them "in striking distance." Now, with the team getting healthy (mostly), he's "happy" but acknowledges more work is needed.
  • Dana Brown [03:40]: “When we were banged up…the big deal was that we had to tread water…Now we're getting our team back healthy…Team's playing very well…I'm happy right now.”
• Key caveat: Jeremy Peña was just placed on the IL with a calf strain, casting doubt on the “fully healthy” assessment (03:54).

Seth & Sean’s Trade Deadline Analysis

• Seth: "There's almost zero chance in hell or any other celestial plane that Jim Crane doesn't…prod Dana Brown to make some kind of move at the deadline." (04:14)
• The team is likely to pursue "a left handed hitter for the outfield," but not a blockbuster — farm system depth is lacking.
• On pitching as trade currency: Brown says they have "a surplus," especially as injured arms return, possibly to be used as trade chips.
  • Dana Brown [06:21]: "Sometimes you have to move certain pieces to get certain pieces and you know, we're trying to make sure we improve this club."

Skepticism on Pitching “Stabilizing”

• Sean and Seth challenge Dana’s positivity about rotation stability, pointing out the team's arms are unpredictable and performance is volatile:
  • Seth [08:04]: “What level are you talking about stabilizing here? I don't know who that…Who are the pitchers we feel good about right now as starting pitchers? It's Hunter Brown.”
  • Sean: “Within each of those guys it's been very unstable.” (12:52)
  • Crypto comparison: Seth jokes the pitching staff’s inconsistency is like a crypto price chart: “If you need crypto to be high in October…that’s the pitching staff.” (13:09)

Possible Trade Assets & Fan Attachment (Innovative Segment)

• Seth playfully asks Sean which pitchers he'd “cry into his pillow” over if traded (14:37–19:41).
  • Top “no-trade” tears: Jake Myers, Santa, Josh Hader, Hunter Brown, Brian King, Steven Oakheart.
  • Sean on hypothetical Hunter Brown trade: “Where my dad would come in and say, look, you got five hours to cry about this and you got to move on.” (16:59)
• They agree the bullpen has some valuable arms but are leery of trading core relievers.

Final Thoughts Before All-Star Break

• Dana Brown (14:01): “We're gonna have to sprint to the All Star break…Potentially we could take over first place in the first half.”

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Russini Traffic Stop Bodycam Deep Dive

Background & Podcast Anecdote

• Diana Russini’s recent sports media notoriety includes both career drama and rumors about relationships with NFL figures.
• She recounted (in a prior podcast/Fox appearance) using NFL connections, even FaceTiming a head coach, to get out of a texting-while-driving ticket in NJ.

Episode Breakdown: Podcast Story vs. Bodycam Reality

• Russini’s Story:

  • Claimed while being pulled over for texting, she FaceTimed an NFL head coach (“the coach of the officer’s favorite team”), who vouches for her, and gets out of the ticket.
  • Diana Russini [25:14]: “I FaceTime. The head coach. Head coach is in his office. He's like, what's up? I just got pulled over and I just wanted to meet my friend Officer Joe. And the head coach played all into it…and you know, officer's just like, what is happening right now?”

• Real Events from Bodycam (as played/discussed on the show):

  • Russini leans on name-dropping, telling the officer she’s an NFL reporter and just broke the McDermott firing news (27:23).
  • Officer reveals he’s a Vikings fan. Russini shows a text/DM from Vikings coach Kevin O’Connell, but no FaceTime ever takes place (30:53).
  • Seth: “So this is a nine minute video. No point before or after that last little clip did we play, was there any FaceTiming with any head coach.” (32:43)
  • The officer ultimately gives her a verbal warning, asks her to “keep him updated with the Vikings,” and lets her go (33:10).

Memorable Quotes & Comic Moments

• Sean: “The big upshot of this whole thing is how big a liar is Diana Russini or how big a story embellisher.” (34:31)
• Diana Russini’s on-the-spot commentary (25:14): “Who does that? I was desperate. I was. I don't want to get a ticket. My husband's gonna kill me. Texting and dry. I shouldn't be doing that. I know that.”
• Sean: “You're J.J. McCarthy, and it's June 29th in the offseason, and I'm getting push notifications because your name's mentioned in an article like. Oh, why? Oh, because Russini's out here telling the Ridgewood police force that I suck at football.” (39:06)
• Seth and Sean power-rank the transgressions: telling tall tales, aggressive name-dropping, and the rookie cop being too starstruck to issue a citation (39:15–41:07).

Takeaways & Tone

• Journalistic Ethics: Seth: “Journalists should not be in the business of tall tale telling…you've got to stick to the facts.” (37:54)
• The hosts note the incident as a humorous but instructive lesson in journalistic embellishment and how sports personalities leverage access, but also sometimes slide into outright fabrication.
• On the cop’s reaction: “That guy sounded like a four month in cop. Like he. He was blown away by that KoC text that he was shown.” (33:58)

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Notable Timestamps

• Astros standings & trade deadline context: [01:30–03:54]
• Dana Brown on team health and strategy: [03:34, 06:21, 14:01]
• Debate over pitching “stabilization”: [07:59–13:36]
• “Cry into pillow” trade value exercise: [14:37–19:41]
• Russini’s anecdote vs. bodycam reality: [25:14–32:43]
• Ethics and takeaways on journalistic truth: [37:54–41:07]

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Episode Highlights

• Astros Still in the Mix: Despite roster turmoil, the Astros remain contenders—if ownership wants to push, Brown will be nudged to act, but blockbuster options may be limited.
• Bullpen and Rotation Woes: Both hosts question any narrative that the pitching situation has truly “stabilized”; performance remains highly variable.
• Creative Segment: The “would you cry if this pitcher were traded?” runs through fan emotional value, showing which assets might truly hurt to lose.
• Russini's Tall Tale Busted: The detailed breakdown of her story vs. reality is both a media literacy lesson and a comical undercutting of sports media self-mythology.

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For Listeners:
This episode offers a sharp preview of Astros trade deadline drama and a memorable, entertaining deep dive into sports journalism, accountability, and storytelling. Perfect for Houston sports fans and anyone who enjoys smart, irreverent sports talk.

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End of Summary

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[Seth]

Yeah, Lambert wouldn't even do us the service of being continually bad. He was actually having a pretty good night. Yeah. And then just he pulled the old Mike Burroughs trick, gave us a homer

[Sean]

after homer gave a three bombs. So I was. My intent was to get to this earlier in the show, the Dana Brown media scrum from yesterday. But it turned out that Astros game was exciting. Last night gave us some stuff to sink our teeth into today. We'll circle back to the game in a little bit, but Dana Brown didn't meet with the media yesterday. I think all eyes are on Dana Brown right now. It's the last day of June. We got a couple weeks till the All Star break, and then are the Astros going to be a buyer at the deadline before we hear from Dana Brown, just the level set on the standings? The Astros fall two games back in the division last night. They are one and a half games back of the Mariners for the last wild card spot. Right now, the Mariners 43 and 43. The Astros 42 and 45. So one and a half games out of the playoff hunt right now. So they're. They're firmly in the mix, along with everybody in the American League, seemingly. So it's going to be a very interesting trade deadline to see which teams look at themselves and say, we can be a contender and our buyers, or if some of these teams that are, you know, five, six games under.500, if they take a look at themselves in the mirror and say, you know what? We ain't winning. We might make the playoffs. We ain't winning anything this year. Yeah, Seth. I think the Astros fall firmly into the first category, which is Jim Crane is going to try to keep this thing alive for as long as he can. You know, feeling like you can make the postseason. Here was Dana Brown yesterday. How are you feeling about the team? This is before last night's game.

[Dana Brown]

Yeah. I mean, the main thing for us that when we were banged up, the big deal was that we had to tread water a little bit.

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[Dana Brown]

And we had to, you know, stay in striking distance. I felt like we did that. Now we're getting our team back healthy, and, you know, we're a game back, half a game out in the wild card. Team's playing very well. Nice road trip, and I'm. I'm happy right now.

[Sean]

Team's gonna. Now, I wonder if he knew that Jeremy Pena was not going to be in the lineup yesterday before he gave that assessment of the health of the team and everybody coming back. That was obviously before Jeremy Pena. It was announced that he's going to the il, hopefully, what is a short IL stint, but he's going the IL with a calf strain.

[Seth]

The. The. Look, the Astros are obviously, you know, within reach of making the playoffs. Where they go above that is going to depend on A whole lot of things like whether or not Jeremy Pena is healthy and which of these pitchers come back. Jim Crane has been into the luxury tax each of the past two seasons. He's one of the most aggressive owners at the trade deadline. There's, there's almost zero chance in hell or any other celestial plane that Jim Crane doesn't, doesn't, you know, prod Dana Brown to make some kind of move at the deadline.

[Sean]

Yep.

[Seth]

They, you know, a left handed hitter for the outfield. Mayhaps just it's something, it doesn't have to be ground. It probably won't be earth shattering because they don't, they don't have the prospects to really do it.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

And now with, I mean, you know, you go into the season when we said this all along, look, the team's trying like hell to trade paradise to get an outfielder that can hit. Didn't work out. But as we were saying at the time and as it worked out, man, if you get injuries on the infield then it'll be nice having Paredes there. Now we're like, oh thank God Delgado is here as well because Correa's gone for the year. Pena has been on and off the illness. But like they just, I like a player for player trade which isn't all that easy to pull off at the trade deadline. Maybe that happens, but I don't know who that player would be. All these pitchers that they have that are supposedly starting caliber still have, you know, the six guys you brought in in the off season have a cumulative ERA of about 5.5.

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[Seth]

And they don't, they don't have a farm system. So I don't know what that I, I, I, I can't, I can't imagine that there's going to be like a, an earth shattering head national headline grabbing move.

[Sean]

Yeah, well, let's, let's hear. Hey Ben, let's Skip down to Dana 3 because I think what you're talking about, Seth, plays directly into this. When you're looking at this team, what are you looking at possibly trying to trade for or trade out. This is just sort of the overall look at this team when approaching a trade deadline.

[Dana Brown]

Yeah, it's certainly pitching because we have so many guys coming back. Our, you know, rotation is starting to stabilize right now. We have pret bullpen going on. So we do have a lot of pitching and we have some coming and we have guys drawing well and so we do have the option of maybe doing some trade. And in trade, you think about the present and the future, like I always tell you, we're always in. We're operating in both realms. And so, you know, those are just some things to think about. But pitching certainly for sure we feel like because we have some coming back is where we have a little bit of a surplus and you know you can never have enough but sometimes you have to move certain pieces to get certain pieces and you know, we're trying to make sure we improve this club.

[Sean]

Yeah, I don't know this. It's sounds like a replay of last year's trade deadline time where he's talking about guys coming back off the IL didn't work, you know, like that. You know, and the guy, the guys. This is the part that's a little scary is that the two main guys that are coming off the IL and back to the Astros probably the soonest are Christian Javier, who's 30 day rehab stint is up on Friday. He's. They got to make a decision on Christian Javier to bring him up or move on from him. And I don't think they're going to move on from him. They're not. They're. They're paying him a lot of money. He had a good rehab stint at Sugar or good rehab start at Sugar Land earlier this week. I think Christian Javier steps right back in and is in the starting rotation. Definitely an audition format, you know, definitely not. It's not one of these things where he is. He's automatically going to be there the rest of the year. He's got to pitch well. That's the scary thing to me is yeah, the guys you're getting back weren't pitching all that well before they were hurt.

[Seth]

Yeah, I know when he says that they're starting to stabilize, I'm like, stabilize it to what?

[Sean]

100%.

[Seth]

What level are you talking about stabilizing here? I don't know who that. Who are the pitchers we feel good about right now as starting pitchers. It's Hunter Brown.

[Sean]

Keep going. Yeah, that's. It's Hunter Brown.

[Seth]

You know, then relievers. Now this is where we might. I mean because the relievers have been great as of late, but I don't want to part with Brian King or Steven Oakheart. Certainly. I like AJ Blue Bot. I mean he's just too much of an innings eater as. I mean he's got, he's.

[Sean]

Those guys are all part of the staff.

[Seth]

Yeah, he's like, like. So you start to get to the back end of just again, I don't know exactly how much you're going to get Other than just quantity over quality and trading some of these guys away. And I, yeah, I don't, I didn't like hearing him say stabilize because I don't, I don't feel like the pitching is stabilized at all. I feel like, I feel like they've hodgepodged it together somewhat, but it's kind of like the Rockets point guard.

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Yeah.

[Sean]

I think it's. Look, if, if I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, I guess it's stabilized in so much as you know who like the first four or five guys are.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean]

But the problem is you don't know what you're getting from them from start to start. Like, I feel pretty confident in saying that over the next few weeks. Hunter Brown, Spencer Araghetti, Tatsuya Imai, Peter Lambert, even though he didn't pitch well last night, like those guys, like up from now till like the All Star break or maybe and shortly after those guys are going to be starting pitchers for you. The issue is they're also up and down.

[Seth]

I'll tell you what, the wild card in all of this and the one that I wouldn't have thought about, but that maybe there might be other teams out there. Seems like the Dodgers, perhaps that look at a guy like Imai and think, you know what? We still, we still view him as a prospect and that based on his scouting report and maybe how he would have done in our system or how we would have handled him, they would be seeing a better version of him or there. And they're still optimistic that, look, we've seen the good out of him. We know, we still feel, we still believe in his ceiling.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

That there might be some teams that are willing to spend more for E Mai than you than you would think or you would suspect.

[Sean]

Do we want to trade him?

[Dana Brown]

I.

[Sean]

Right now, like, he's. He like five of his last six

[Seth]

starts going to cry into my pillow for three hours if they do.

[Sean]

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[Sean]

I'd just be very surprised if they did it. I know you're, I know you're just kind of spitballing. I'd be, I, I'd be, I'd be surprised if they did that. And right now, I said this earlier this week and there's been nothing that Lambert or Eric Getty have done in the last few days that take me off of this, which is if they were in a two game playoff series right now, Hunter Brown would start the first game for me. And I think based on performance over the last month and a Half. Tatsuya Imai might be your number two starter. Yeah, he's got the highest ceiling of

[Seth]

all these guys with just zero confidence about it.

[Sean]

100% zero confidence. Yeah, yeah, totally like that.

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[Sean]

I mean we know who the guys are going to be that stable. But within each of those guys it's been very unstable.

[Seth]

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[Sean]

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[Seth]

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[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Like right now, that's the pitching staff. Like you just, it's all, it's almost like, yeah, we've got these kind of long term trends we're monitoring, but my God, I don't know if a single damn one of them is going to be good in September.

[Sean]

We so hey, one more from, let's do one more from Dana Brown. In about seven or eight minutes we're going to hit the audio from the body cam footage of the Diana Rossini texting and driving stop and we'll let you guys be the judge of.

[Seth]

Or tweeting and driving.

[Sean]

Tweeting and driving. Yeah. So, so we'll, we'll, we'll have that audio coming up in just a little bit. Here's one more from Dana Brown. How important are these last two weeks before the All Star break?

[Dana Brown]

Yeah, huge. Two weeks. I said earlier in the meeting today we're gonna have to sprint to the trade, I mean to the All Star break and then we'll worry about the trade deadline sort of after that. But we need to get on a nice little run with these 12 games. Potentially we could take over first place in the first half. In first place, that would be great. But certainly it's a sprint to the, you know, the All Star break.

[Sean]

Yeah, it's, they, they and they've got a shot here. You know, they've, they have played much better, bay. They've been eight games over.500 since the pain and pender gas reset. They've been a much, they've been a mid-90s pace type win team over the last 45 days or so.

[Seth]

I'm going to read you the, the top 10 pitchers in ERA right now on the Astros, Sean, and I want you to tell me whether you'd cry into your pillow for three hours if they traded them away or not.

[Sean]

Okay. Okay.

[Seth]

Real quick, yes or no. Weep into your pillow or not.

[Sean]

Okay.

[Seth]

Number one with the best ERA on the team, Jake Myers, Damn near pitched an immaculate inning. He did. All right. And then, and then also, by the way, excuse me. Oh, God.

[Sean]

Did you know he pitched at Nebraska? I didn't know that.

[Seth]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean]

I didn't know that. He was a Pitcher in college.

[Seth]

Yeah. Whenever they play up in the great vast north, they talk about all the Nebraska people there. Well. And then also he's tied, actually, because Eola also has a 0.0.

[Sean]

I would be bummed if they traded him.

[Seth]

I would. Honestly, innings last especially because he is like, okay, he's one of your better prospects. They might. They might get a really tidy, tidy sum for him.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

10th prospect in the organization. I would actually cry into my pillow. Okay, Santa. Yes.

[Sean]

I would cry into my pillow.

[Seth]

I would cry into my pillow. Josh hater. I would weep and weep for days. I would be three different types of antidepressants.

[Sean]

Antidepressants. I'd be on a psychiatrist couch the next day.

[Seth]

You know what? I'm feeling better about my prospective misery over the lot. We're already up at more guys than I thought.

[Sean]

You're the one. You're the one who made this a 10 player exercise.

[Seth]

Keep going, Jake Myers. Also, I know you wouldn't be crying, so that's the only no we have. So silly.

[Sean]

No, Jake.

[Seth]

Okay. Would you cry into your pillow if they traded away Logan Van Why?

[Sean]

No, I wouldn't.

[Seth]

I wouldn't.

[Sean]

No. No. You know why.

[Seth]

I put so much time and effort into learning whether it was Van why or Van Way a couple years ago.

[Sean]

I don't like the lowercase letters on the back of his jersey.

[Seth]

Yeah. It's weird.

[Sean]

It's strange.

[Seth]

I don't know.

[Sean]

I. This may be. I don't like this is. That's. It's not a. It's not an ethnic take or anything like that. It just looks. Looks a little silly.

[Seth]

I forgot your noted. Dutch hater.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Hunter Brown. Yes. We'd cry into our pillows.

[Sean]

I'd cry.

[Seth]

Well, you wouldn't. No, no, no, no.

[Sean]

I probably would, but I want to make sure. I just don't want to drive by. You'd get a ton for Hunter Brown.

[Seth]

Yeah, I know, but emotionally, I'm just basing this. I don't want you to put your math brain to work on this.

[Sean]

Okay. Okay. Yeah. I would cry.

[Seth]

So you would cry in your pillow. But you would be intrigued. You might like, lift your head up from the pillow.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

When you find out what you got

[Sean]

for him, he'd be one of those ones where I'd be like, look. Where my dad would come in and say, look, you got five hours to cry about this and you got to move on.

[Seth]

I'm feeling better about the pitching. I feel. You know what? Just by virtue of how many tears I've cried into my pillow so far. I'm actually. I'm starting to agree more with Dana. Okay. I'm going to say. I'm going to say these next two immediately. You would cry into your pillow? Brian King and Stephen Oakr.

[Sean]

Yes, I would. I would cry.

[Seth]

I would. And likewise, though, too. Okay. They've got. They. I don't want. I don't want to. I don't want to lose any of these guys, but they've got more potential trade pieces than you would think.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth]

Nate Pearson.

[Sean]

No, no, I would not cry into my pillow.

[Seth]

Boy, Joey Low profit. He was. I was so happy to see how happy Nate Pearson was last night, though. And Joey Lo Profito went into the wall to save what probably would have been two runs scored.

[Sean]

Yeah, that was a great catch if

[Seth]

he hadn't gotten that. But no, I would not cry.

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[Seth]

This is. This might be the first time where you have to think about it. Or not.

[Sean]

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[Sean]

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[Seth]

Yes.

[Sean]

Is it Spencer Arrogetti?

[Seth]

No, it's Peter Lambert.

[Sean]

Peter Lambert. Oh, okay. Yeah, Peter Lambert. I mean, they DFA'd him at the beginning of the year. I'm not expecting Peter Lambert to pitch. I think last night is an example of this. I would have said this before last night. I don't expect him to be this the rest of the year.

[Seth]

You might give a little bit of a mope, but you'd say, you know what, though? They're selling high. You know, like, this is. They might have duped some team into thinking. And then just because the names are big, I'll go over these next few. A.J. blue ball.

[Sean]

Yeah. A.J. blue boss pitch. Well, like, I don't know how much you're getting for a lot of these guys.

[Seth]

I know the emotional, like, oh, no, we're going to lose this guy. You know?

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

I mean, the thing with blue ball. He's got the fourth most innings pitched on the team or fourth most games pitched. Innings pitched. He's

[Sean]

on the team.

[Seth]

Yeah. He's seventh most innings pitch.

[Sean]

He's one of the most used relievers in the entire sport.

[Seth]

Yeah, yeah. Seven. Yeah. On the team. Including starting.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth]

All right. And then just these last two, and then we'll stop this exercise. Spencer Erraguetti.

[Sean]

I. You know, again, I. I need to see what it looks like. Would I cry?

[Seth]

You can't see what it looks like. Are you upset to lose Peter? Spencer Arrogetti I cry a little bit.

[Sean]

Like, I'd probably well up. Like, you know when you go where you're like, oh, this feel. What is this?

[Seth]

We had something special.

[Sean]

What is this salty discharge coming from my eyes? Oh, that's tears.

[Seth]

Oh, it might be a little bit like a summer romance where you kind of like, okay, it's time. We have to both, we both have to leave the Atlanta, the Jersey Shore.

[Sean]

If you'd asked me in May, then I would have been a blubbering mess. But he was the pitcher of the month that month. You know, I'm very, I'm very fickle.

[Seth]

Kai Wayton.

[Sean]

Nah, nah, nah. I wouldn't cry over that.

[Seth]

But there's quite a few tier worthy guys there. By virtue of that alone, I'm going to say that they have stabilized.

[Sean]

Okay. Okay. The interesting thing about all this is that a few of the guys are counting on you didn't get to them because their ERA is still so high right now. I know they're counting heavily on Tatsuya Imai right now. Heavily on him.

[Seth]

Yeah. And he wasn't, you know, he's still at a 5, 3, 6.

[Sean]

He was so bad in the beginning.

[Seth]

Okay, here are the guys who are a plus five ERA that you're heavily relying on.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth]

This is my heavily relying on 5.36 ERA. Tatsui Imai.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

Mike Burroughs potentially is a reliever. Like we're not relying on him, but somebody either Burrows or an equivalent. You're, you're kind of relying on.

[Sean]

Yep. Burrows. You haven't gotten a Brian Abreu.

[Seth]

Yeah, I have not gotten to a Brian Abreu with his plummeting ERA, which is down to a 6.6.0.

[Sean]

He wasn't like a 13 for a while. I mean, that's, he's, he's cut it in half.

[Seth]

Big name that you're not relying on, but he's a big name nonetheless. Lance McCullers Jr. Yeah. Not relying on.

[Sean]

I don't think you're relying on him.

[Seth]

So we get down to the, you know, like there's. Those are the Christian Javier. I mean, Javier's got a 12.54 ERA. Yeah. And. But you're kind of relying on the hope of Christian Javier.

[Sean]

You're counting more. You're catching certainly within the realm of starting pitchers. I mean, you're, you are counting on a handful of guys that don't have a great body of work this year. I'm, I'm optimistic about either. And I'm surprised you drove by him as fast as you did because you were the one that reset his season along with the Astros season.

[Seth]

I drove by him. I started the whole conversation. No, no, no.

[Sean]

But I mean, when you were going through the list right there, you know, like you brought up his five point whatever, era, but not the fact that since the Pain and Pendergast reset, he's got an ERA in the threes. Yeah, that's really what I'm looking at. So. Yeah. Yeah.

[Seth]

And he's only only once that during that reset has he not made it out of the first inning.

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[Sean]

Yeah.

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All right, hey, let's. Let's get to this. Diana Rossini, the. The video that came out yesterday. So just to reset this was Diana Rossini. This was an anecdote at the beginning of a New York Times article, a long form article about Rossini. Kind of where she's at right now, where things are going with her career. Of course, for those the five of you that don't know what we're talking about, Diana Rossini, formerly of the Athletic, who is allegedly has been in an extramarital relationship with Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel for several years. Um, so she's been a big topic. Videos have surfaced throughout the last few months of various podcast appearances and things like that. In this New York Times article, they recounted an anecdote she told on the Stugot show on Fox back during radio row at the super bowl about getting out of a. A texting or tweeting and driving ticket in New Jersey by. Well, we'll let you. We'll let Diana Rossini tell the story.

[Diana Rossini]

I was texting and driving because this coaching cycle is ridiculous and relentless and exhausting, and you can't drive two feet to get a cup of coffee without something happening. I'm not gonna say the team or the coach, okay? But the police officer pulls up and I said, Listen, Sean McDermott just got fired. I am breaking. I am in the middle of this right now. I know you don't care as a police officer, but I feel like I need to let you know this. And he said, well, I'm not a Bills fan. I'm like, oh, you're jets, so this is good news for you, right? Like, he said, no. And so he names the team. I go, oh, I love that team. I go, do you want to talk to the coach? You should talk to the coach. I FaceTime. The head coach. Head coach is in his office. He's like, what's up? I go, I just got pulled over and I just wanted to meet my friend Officer Joe. And the head coach played all into it, and he's like, how you doing? He's like, you should let her go. She's a good citizen. You know, officer's just like, what is happening right now? Who does that? I was desperate. I was. I don't want to get a ticket. My husband's gonna kill me. Texting and dry. I shouldn't be doing that. I know that.

[Seth]

Oh, my go. I am so proud of you.

[Sean]

Okay. Okay. So. So the. Just the level set, what her story is.

[Seth]

Yes. A lot of sleuthing went on trying to figure out who this head coach is.

[Sean]

I spent at least 20 minutes going through this exercise yesterday of trying to handicap which were the most likely head coaches.

[Seth]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean]

So her story is not just that she FaceTimed the officers, the head coach of the police officer's favorite team, but she recounts the conversation and everything.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Like, hey, this is Officer Joe. Hey, you should let her go. She's a good person, et cetera, et cetera. Like, it's a pretty deep memory of what took place during that FaceTime call.

[Seth]

Good story. It's a hell of a story.

[Sean]

It's a hell of a story. Okay, so now let's replay some of the body cam footage.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean]

And see if this adds up.

[Seth]

So this is as rookie cop who's been on the job for four months, Felice Bonanno of the Ridgewood Police Department approaching, approaching her car. And Rossini explains why she was texting.

[Diana Rossini]

So you're not going to care. I'm an NFL reporter, and I just broke that Sean McDermott got fired from the Bills. And that is what I was just sending to send a tweet. I was going to pull over because I have to make calls.

[Dana Brown]

Okay.

[Diana Rossini]

I know you don't care, but I'm just letting you know my reason why.

[Officer Bonanno]

Okay.

[Diana Rossini]

It's was a work thing, and it was.

[Seth]

It was a work thing. Inappropriate.

[Sean]

Now, that. That checks out with the story that she told Stugotz on Fox. Right. Got pulled over, was texting and driving. Sean McDermott got fired. That was back on January 19th as Florio pieced together in a piece a couple days ago when. That's when the video of this surf, this story surfaced. Okay, so that checks out so far. Good name drop by her, too, by the way.

[Seth]

I guess it wasn't a name drop yet. Right. She just said, Sean McDermott that got fired. So she said that she was an NFL reporter.

[Sean]

She. She is kind of. She is kind of. I feel like she's flexing a little bit as to what her day job is.

[Seth]

Yeah. Like, hey, listen, I know you. I know I shouldn't be texting and driving but you don't realize the glamorous things that are happening.

[Sean]

I mean, I'm about to break news

[Seth]

because, like, realistically, like anybody else says, like, hey, I'm late to a meeting or something. Like, the cops going to be like, yeah, cool, you know, maybe leave a little earlier next time.

[Sean]

Right, right.

[Seth]

But she's very conspicuously bringing up that she's an NFL reporter. This is when. Remember, she's in New Jersey.

[Sean]

Yep.

[Seth]

So she's. This is when the name dropping starts with. With. And then the cop divulges that he's a Vikings fan.

[Officer Bonanno]

Obviously, you're on your phone for a while. Right. I was on. When you went under the underpass. Right. On Garbage Square. I was by Library Place. So you're on your phone there. I got behind you.

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[Officer Bonanno]

By Whole Foods. You continue to be on your phone. Right. I understand you have a job.

[Diana Rossini]

No one expects me to go ahead. Yeah. Like, I'm shocked that they fired me.

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I cannot believe it.

[Diana Rossini]

You know what?

[Sean]

Was on the phone with who? Brian Gable.

[Seth]

Oh, okay.

[Diana Rossini]

Are you a fan of Giants or Giants?

[Officer Bonanno]

I'm actually. I'm not a fan of either.

[Diana Rossini]

So what is your team?

[Officer Bonanno]

I'm a Vikings fan. I'm sorry. Unfortunately.

[Seth]

Okay, so she drops Brian Daboll's name.

[Sean]

That's who she was. She said that's who she was talking to.

[Seth]

Yeah. Guess who I was just talking to. Brian Table.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

She's fishing there, you know, and then she asked whether he's a Giants fan or a Jets fan, and he says, no, I'm. I'm actually a Vikings fan.

[Sean]

Unexpected. I was not. I was not expecting a Jersey cop to be a Vikings fan. I know.

[Seth]

He doesn't really have a Jersey accent.

[Sean]

No, that's true.

[Seth]

You can tell he's young, though, can't you? I. Before I even saw that, I watched the whole video before I read a couple articles that showed. Because the Ridgewood Police Department does have a statement about all of this. Okay, but that was pretty conspicuous name dropping there.

[Sean]

Very, very much. Yeah. I was talking to Brian Dabel. I think she was hoping he would be a Giants fan.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Because, you know, former Giants coach kind of thing. But. Okay, so. But. But thus far, the story that she told on Fox. Yeah. Still checks out. It still holds up. Now we just have more information. We know, like, who the head coach might have been. It's, you know, it's. It's got to be Kevin O'. Connell. That FaceTime.

[Seth]

Yeah. So her story is that she. The guy she let the Cop facetime with this guy to lay out what she does. Before we play this audio, she takes her phone out and shows presumably a text or DM conversation that she's had with. With. With Kevin o', Connell, the coach of the Vikings.

[Officer Bonanno]

Let's see it.

[Sean]

Oh, my God.

[Officer Bonanno]

Koc.

[Diana Rossini]

See what I said? Look what I said to him, though, just now. Go to the bottom.

[Sean]

Oh, my God.

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[Officer Bonanno]

Pretty cool. Yeah. He seems like a dude.

[Seth]

Your quarterback sucks.

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[Sean]

What? What? J.J. mcCarthy catching a stray right there. Why are you coming after nine like that? Rossini. Okay. Can you. Do you know. You know what made me laugh right there?

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Knowing her history, allegedly with other head coaches, and she goes, look what I said to him right there. Like.

[Seth]

Yeah. Is there something about her court? Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. Quarterback sucking on all that?

[Sean]

No, no, no. I'm thinking like, hey, here's what I'm wearing or something like that.

[Seth]

Oh, oh, you were thinking that.

[Sean]

Yeah. Like, look what I said to him here.

[Seth]

I know this all happened before. That this cop might have known what true he was capable of.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

You know,

[Sean]

look what I said to him.

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[Seth]

Yeah. Yeah. The. The old cops back at the station are like, you just. You got that. Wowed by that, huh? She might have been willing to up the ante quite a bit.

[Diana Rossini]

Yes.

[Seth]

Okay, so.

[Sean]

But showed. But showed him something written. Not.

[Seth]

Yeah. Presumably a text or DM conversation with.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth]

And then she might have said something about J.J. mcCarthy sucking or something.

[Sean]

Right, right.

[Seth]

That's. I don't know. This is not all that great. Look, it's not a big deal that Kevin o' Connell would have been texting with Diana Rossini.

[Dana Brown]

Right.

[Seth]

You know, they, they text with the reporters all the time and everything. If. If he was texting about how much JJ McCarthy sucks or something, that's. That was something altogether that felt like

[Sean]

her just giving commentary on the Vikings. Right.

[Seth]

But. So this is a nine minute video. no point before or after that last little clip did we play. Was there any face timing with any head coach?

[Sean]

No.

[Seth]

In fact, there was Kevin o'. Connell.

[Sean]

There was a big chunk in the middle that was very boring because cop walked back to his vehicle and sat there and wrote out the ticket.

[Seth]

Was just writing out there, checking the numbers and all. They were doing whatever he has to

[Sean]

do and got out of the car.

[Seth]

And then he gets back. He gets back to the car. He has to clear up some things with her license because apparently her license needs to be updated. Yeah. So for whatever potentially, maybe that could have been an Issue, too. She gets off of that. Here's the copy. Cutting Rossini a break.

[Officer Bonanno]

Listen, I'm going to cut you a break on the cell phone. I understand your job requires you to be on the phone a lot. Just try to wait till you get home. Okay.

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[Officer Bonanno]

yeah, keep me updated with the Vikings.

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Okay.

[Officer Bonanno]

Let me know if KLC is going to get a new quarterback in. Of course. All right, man. Take care.

[Sean]

Okay.

[Seth]

Gave her his number or something that she. I didn't go back. You know what? I need to go back and watch the video. And I can't remember if he actually like hand a warning or not.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

He said, keep me up to date. Yeah.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Seth]

These two have been.

[Sean]

Think they exchanged numbers.

[Seth]

She thinks she's going to get a license to speed and text by just by having this, this rookie cop on her payroll. Information. Payroll.

[Sean]

Four months. That guy sounded like a four month in cop. Like he. He was blown away by that KoC text that he was shown.

[Seth]

So Florio had wondered, hey, is this potentially a bribery situation?

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[Seth]

Based on New Jersey. New Jersey law.

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[Seth]

A spokesperson for the Ridgewood Police Department said that the officer exercises professional discretion and issued a verbal warning to Ms. Rossini, which is consistent with Ridgewood Police Department policy and long standing practice.

[Sean]

Okay, that answers that point. So there was no written. There's nothing written. They say verbal warning right there.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Okay. So. Yeah. So the. So the police department is backing up Officer Bonanno. The big upshot of this whole thing is how big a liar is Diana Rossini or how big a story. Embellisher.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Is Diana. We. Because we. Now that we've played all this body cam audio and we know that the extent of her trying to name drop and woo this officer was just basically showing. Hey, I text with this guy.

[Seth]

Right.

[Sean]

The detail in which she goes into. In this story, I want to replay that because like the D now having played this, knowing that all she did was show him a text.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean]

This was. Again, this was her story on Fox about what this interchange. This, this exchange was with his officer.

[Diana Rossini]

I was texting and driving because this coaching cycle is ridiculous and relentless and exhausting and you can't drive two feet to get a cup of coffee without something happening. I'm not going to say the team or the coach.

[Seth]

Okay.

[Diana Rossini]

But the police officer pulls up and I said, Listen, Sean McDermott just got fired. I am breaking. I am in the middle of this right now. I know you don't care as a police officer, but I feel like I need to let you know this. And he said, well, I'm not a Bills fan. I'm like, oh, you're jets, so this is good news for you, right? Like, he said, no. And so he names the team. I go, oh, I love that team. I go, do you want to talk to the coach? You should talk to the coach. I FaceTime. The head coach. Head coach is in his office. He's like, what's up? Oh, my God. I go, I just got pulled over and I just wanted to meet my friend Officer Joe. And the head coach played all into it and he's like, how you doing? He's like, you should let her go. She's a good citizen. You know, officer's just like, what is happening right now?

[Sean]

It's.

[Diana Rossini]

Who does that?

[Sean]

That's good. Yeah, that's good.

[Seth]

So obviously the FaceTiming part was fraudulent. But you know what else she did, which I hadn't caught the first three times we've listened since this body cam footage came out. She. She said that the officer said, I'm not a Bills fan. Which, which keeps. So she put. She took out the part of the story where she name dropped day ball, hoping that. Hoping that. That the cop was a Giants fan, that maybe that kind of connection, what would. Would be what wowed him or whatever. So that's a. That's a double tall tale telling there. But she's doing it as an NFL reporter on a radio show or a podcast. So, like, that's the part where. Okay, tall tale is a tall tale. Does she have. In just telling an anecdote like this? I feel like she has a certain responsibility to be more accurate with her anecdotes. That. Yeah, that's. I choose to believe that this is also a journalistic violation by telling a tall tale on something that was otherwise a seemingly harmless anecdote.

[Sean]

Do you. Are you someone who sprinkles a little extra sauce on stories sometimes?

[Seth]

No. It's a weakness of mine that sometimes I'm fact checking myself too aggressively. Okay. And I'll admit to it too, as we found out with my old. Remember my story about the Rolling Stones concert? I botched so badly, I was like, I didn't. I unintentionally tall tale tell somebody. But I was way off on who I said that. The. I can't remember which band I thought it was or whatever. That, that, that I had talked to the drummer. That was. That was completely inaccurate. And I. And I fact checked myself and I corrected myself. So, yeah, I think most people are tall tale Tellers. Yeah, I think most people embellish.

[Sean]

I think most good storytellers probably. Probably sprinkle some confectionary sugar.

[Seth]

But I think journalists should not be in the business of tall tale telling. Like the. You're supposed to be, first and foremost, somebody who relays facts and, you know, doing it in an entertaining way, but you got to stick to the facts.

[Sean]

So the big losers in this story, the latest chapter to come out in the saga of Rossini, Rossini herself, for being not just a story embellisher, but a story fabricator.

[Seth]

Yeah.

[Sean]

That's number one. Number two, Kevin o', Connell, who, if I'm any NFL head coach, I do not want it revealed that I have a text going with Diana Rossini right now. I don't need that heat. I don't need that heat on the home front.

[Seth]

I didn't even think of that part.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah. And number three, J.J. mcCarthy, who took an unnecessary one two combo from Rossini telling the officer that your quarterback sucks. I'm assuming it's JJ McCarthy she was talking about.

[Seth]

Right. But we don't. I mean, that's a lot of. We got to connect a few dots there. You know, it's all like, she just, like, that's what she says after she shows the text, but who knows? And maybe she. That's what she said to Kevin o'. Connell. And he didn't issue any reply or anything either way.

[Sean]

Just there's whoever it was directed at or whoever originally came from. You're J.J. mcCarthy, and it's June 29th in the offseason, and I'm getting push notifications because your name's mentioned in an article like. Oh, why? Oh, because Rossini's out here telling the Ridgewood police force that I suck at football power.

[Seth]

Rank these transgressions real quickly. Okay, so three transgressions potentially, are Rossini telling a tall tale, Rossini name dropping so aggressively, or the rookie cop letting her off.

[Sean]

Okay. I would say that number. I would say number one is the rookie cop letting her off.

[Seth]

What?

[Sean]

That's a bold move as a rookie cop. That's a bold move to let somebody go.

[Seth]

I think. I think more than I think rookie cops get. If anything, they get reprimanded for not writing enough tickets.

[Sean]

Okay.

[Seth]

Early on, I think. I think a lot of rookie cops are just like. They're like, I don't want to give this guy a ticket. And they don't.

[Officer Bonanno]

Yeah.

[Seth]

At least I know a couple young cops who are that way.

[Sean]

Okay. So as far as Receipt. What were the other two?

[Seth]

The story embellishing, Tall talent telling or just aggressive name dropping?

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[Sean]

The aggressive name dropping. I don't know.

[Seth]

I could see, like, you try to use all your tools at your disposal.

[Dana Brown]

Probably.

[Sean]

Yeah, I'm probably like. Not to her extent, but I'm probably like, like, like C level guilty of some of the. Like, like a few notches below guilty of a couple of those things.

[Seth]

She didn't do it in a do you know who I am? Type of way.

[Sean]

Right.

[Seth]

I feel like she actually did it pretty smooth. Even though, like, watching it, it looks a lot more cringy. I will say I appreciate the.

[Sean]

I appreciate the strategy is being resourceful.

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[Sean]

The, the tall tale telling is just flat out lying.

[Seth]

So you're going to go rookie cop, then Tall tale telling, then the name,

[Sean]

then the name dropping. Yeah, yeah. Are you. What's. What's your power?

[Seth]

I would put the. I would put the rookie cop last.

[Sean]

Okay.

[Seth]

Like, that's just not now, like, depending on.

[Sean]

I.

[Seth]

You know what? I'm gonna have to review his service record, Sean, and see if this falls in line consistently.

[Sean]

I'm just saying he's only four months in at the time. I'm just saying, like, like as a rookie cop, he got so snowed over by that too, man. Like, he was like, whoa.

[Seth]

Yeah, I know. But he might have let her off anyway with that. Just like you get. They give a lot of verbal warning and you know what else came up in this. I don't know the geography of like, where she lives and everything, but I. He asked where she lived and she said, whatever town. And I don't. You know, sometimes if it's somebody that lives in the area, you're going to give them a break or somebody from outside the area, whatever. I know a young cop who is. He's his boss, keeps telling him, like, listen, man, you can't keep letting everybody off.

[Tyler Reddick]

Right?

[Seth]

He lets everybody off. Right. He's the nicest kid. Yeah, he just, he, he just, he can't help.

[Sean]

You're helping my power ranking right now by saying that. Because that cop. It's from what you're saying, Are you.

[Seth]

Are you're upset with lenient cops?

[Sean]

Well, I'm saying, what kind of a

[Seth]

goody two shoes are you?

[Sean]

No, no, I'm saying, like, you're asking like, who. Like, I'm putting him number one because he's not doing his job the right. Like you're saying that his bosses are probably angry at him about this.

[Seth]

Angry. But just like, no, I'm saying in general. No, because you were saying. You're saying that it's a transgression because he was bowled over by her. Yeah, I'm saying. No, he might have just. He might be a young cop that doesn't give out a lot of tickets in general. That's more of a methodology issue than this specific instance.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Seth]

I just think you're. You're reasoning for why. For why you ranked him so high. And then I'll say. And then I would say telling the. I think telling the tall tale is the biggest transgression.

[Sean]

Do you.

[Seth]

Okay there? Yeah.

[Sean]

You and I agree that that's work. That's worse than the. Than the. Than whatever the other one was with.

[Seth]

Yeah. Yeah. Because. Because she's a journalist. Yeah, Supposedly.

[Sean]

Yep.

[Seth]

Like she's supposed to be able to relay facts. Yep. And not embellish them.

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