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B. Scott
Sugar Lane Studios. Here's Pain and Pendergast. Hi, Pain and Pendergast. Be Scott in for Seth today. Monday and Tuesday as well. We're counting down to training camp for the Texans. First practice is next Wednesday. Cannot wait. Here we are, man. Year four. Yeah. Of the Demico Ryan's era. Already less than a week away year for the C.J. stroud era. The Will Anderson Jr. Era. Man, that, that flew by.
Seth
Yeah.
B. Scott
It feels like just yesterday we were talking about CJ Stroud going to be named the starter of this football team. Yeah.
Seth
And what's taken him so long?
B. Scott
Yeah.
Seth
You know, remember it was kind of a. It was a little bit of a controversy.
B. Scott
Why are they. Why are they making him earn this
Seth
even though we all knew. I can remember feeling this way at the time. Like, what are, what are we all doing here? Like, are we not. Are we grown ups? Have we been here before? Like, have we. Do we. Do we football, bro.
B. Scott
We had, we had just done it. I mean, not, not to the magnitude of a second overall pick and the anointing of the new king. We kind of done it the year before with Davis Mills. Yeah, you know, that's true. But. But they, they actually anointed Davis earlier in 2022, much earlier than they did C.J. in his rookie year, if you remember. Back to that. Yeah.
Seth
But it just shows you to me how much we get caught up in our own little off season narratives. Because if you just, if you Bird's eye view the thing and, and just do the 30, 30,000 foot view, you're like, of course the number two overall pick is going to start over the guy that was there the year before that they're essentially replacing.
B. Scott
Right. Especially when he was showing no signs of being overmatched or anything like that in training camp. Like, oh no, he. He looks like he knows what he's doing.
Seth
And I hate to do this because I like Davis a lot, but he, his play is really what necessitated drafting a hundred percent. Right. Cause we were talking about that the year before. The ideal scenario would have been that he would have gone out there and outplayed his draft stock or his draft
B. Scott
status and win 8 games, play win enough games to where they're not in position to draft your replacement.
Seth
Right.
B. Scott
You know what I mean?
Seth
Or even if they Are maybe they can just draft Will Anderson and not have to trade up to. To get him.
B. Scott
Right.
Seth
And so you just pick the two and wherever they were. 10, 12. 12, 12. Yeah. They could have just done that instead, you know, but no, they needed a quarterback, so. And we all knew that.
B. Scott
Yep. It all worked out.
Seth
Yeah.
B. Scott
So. So I'm going to let you lay this question out, B. Scott. Cause this is a B. Scott question. We're doing a question each day for the 10 days leading up to camp. We're counting down. And we are down to question number four.
Seth
Yeah. And so this was my stab at it. And I already enjoyed and appreciated the questions that y' all had asked in the 10 days or the 10 days leading up to. So the five days leading up to this one. Yep. And so the one I came up with, who is the Texans most important newcomer? And the reason why is because that's what training camp largely is about. The newness of the. What is this team gonna look like in comparison to the team that we saw the last time or the last time they were out there? And so to me, it's even more important when a team is not in the developmental phase, which is where the Texans were in 2023, but when they're just adding along the margins, they're just adding pieces. And their needs were very. Not overwhelming, very clear and succinct, and they addressed those needs. And so I felt like this could be an easier exercise because we don't have to go through the whole team. There are very few newcomers that I think are candidates for the answer to this question.
B. Scott
So before we give our answers to this, yes, two things. One, just to be clear, newcomer can
Seth
be a Newcomer can be a rookie, a free agent, or someone who was traded for. So a rookie. Think Keelan Rutledger or Kaden McDonald a free agent. Think, of course, Wyatt Teller or Braden Smith.
B. Scott
For the guys, Reed Blankenship.
Seth
Reed Blankenship. For somebody who was traded, you could think David Montgomery. But basically anybody who is on the team at the start of training camp, when. When we go out there next Wednesday, who wasn't on the team when they lost in Fox.
B. Scott
It's funny because I think we just threw the names out there. Like if we were. We're going, okay, here's the pool of players to pick from. We were being specific.
Seth
Yeah.
B. Scott
I think in just laying out what exactly qualifies as a newcomer, I think literally the names that we. That you and I collectively just put out there are. Is probably the pool we're Picking from here the top two rookies, Keelan Rutledge and. And Kaden McDonald. You know, maybe I don't have Marlon Klein fits in there for people, but
Seth
he could be like an X factor wild card. But yeah, there would be a stretch to call him the most important.
B. Scott
I'll just throw him in there because he's a second round pick. And then the free agency signings, the certainly the offensive lineman, Braden Smith, Wyatt Teller, and then on defense, Reed Blankenship trades. The only trade I can think of is David Montgomery. Unless you're counting someone like Martin Mapu who they traded for is a low level trade. Yeah, but he's more important than you think right now because the injury to EJ Speed.
Seth
Yeah, I know. Seth loves him.
B. Scott
Seth loves him. Yeah, Seth. I don't know. I don't know if he loves him yet. He loves the idea.
Seth
That's a better way to put it.
B. Scott
Yeah, he loves the idea of him right now. He loves the potential. Yeah.
Seth
Misrepresent.
B. Scott
You just bought a Marte Mapu Jersey @buc EE's. I don't know if you knew that.
Seth
My bad, Seth.
B. Scott
Yeah.
Seth
Yeah.
B. Scott
So I would say of all those, the one that has me most excited. I know you're talking about most important, but we've done some newcomer lists on the show since free agency in the draft. The one that has me most excited is Reed Blankenship. Just because the idea of strengthening an already elite defense always intrigues me. Yeah. So the, the Caden McDonald and Reed Blankenship dynamic in this question is intriguing to me. But Reed Blankenship and Seth's made this point. It's not just Reed Blankenship, but it's the version of Kalen Bullock that might get unlocked with having somebody who locks things down back there.
Seth
Underrated point.
B. Scott
It doesn't make him the most important because the, the. The repair of the offensive side of the football is the most important thing for this football team. So I'm going to go David Montgomery in all this.
Seth
Okay.
B. Scott
And in part is almost a. A sequel to the question of the day yesterday, which was how. How concerned are we about the overall depth of the running back room if something happens to David Montgomery? I love Woody Marks and everything, but if something happens to David Montgomery, we're.
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B. Scott
Right back at the Square. Square One is maybe being a little bit dismissive of Woody Marks. But we're right back to the situation we were in last year where Woody Marks is maybe playing a little out of position or a little out of role.
Seth
Yeah.
B. Scott
To say. And then the backups are Jawar Jordan and British Brooks at this point. So for depth purposes and because I think he's going to be excellent for this football team in the locker room and on the field. David Montgomery is my answer to that question.
Seth
I like it. I like it. So I. And I'm seeing on the text line, someone has this tank, Dale Count. He's an interesting candidate, but he doesn't. Because he was technically on the team.
B. Scott
Not a newcomer.
Seth
He's not a newcomer. But he. But that is a. Something that could change the dynamic of the. Of the offense and the team. I understand where they're coming from.
B. Scott
Yeah. I like the spirit of the answer. Yes, yes, yes. What's your answer?
Seth
And it's creative. So my answer. I liked what you said about the defense too. Cause I'm just as excited about them. But I'm with your logic of that not being the most important, which is the question. Most important for me is Wyatt Teller.
B. Scott
Okay. That's a good one.
Seth
And here's why. Wyatt Teller. I. For everybody else, I can think of either who the backup is or at the very least, what is the contingency plan or the workaround if this doesn't work out. Right. The defensive guys, you can pretty much lay that out that it was already a great defense, one of the best, if not the best in the league without the newcomers. So they're going to be fine. If those guys, for whatever reason, don't work out.
B. Scott
Sure.
Seth
Even David Montgomery, as you just kind of laid it out there, the depth of a little bit concerning. Well, I do know that Woody Marks can at the very least play that outsized role. Even if it's not ideal, even if we won't like it. I've seen him do that before. I don't know who the left guard is.
Maddie
If.
Seth
If something happens to Wyatt Teller. He's not any good.
B. Scott
That's the PTSD I don't need. I don't want to. Rotating left guards. Yeah.
Seth
I don't know who the City sue is of 2026. And I don't really want to. I hate to even go here because I'm not trying to bring the vibes down to the show.
B. Scott
No, no, no.
Seth
We just got to be real about this.
B. Scott
Well, when something's important like this, it's usually for a reason that's a little painful.
Seth
I Feel like even with Keelan Rutledge. So I, I, I'd rank these like I think somewhere and you can decide how you want to rank the three. But it's some combination of the Keelan Rutledge, David Montgomery and Wyatt Teller combination. The center, guard and running back combination of newcomers. I really believe that. But even with Rutledge, you still got Jake Andrews, which again, not ideal. Similar to the Woody Marks thing. Not exactly what you want, but at least you know you've seen them win double digit games in a playoff game and have a successful season with both Woody Marks in that role that we all agree is outsized and Jake Andrews who's in a role that, that is probably outsized. They can survive that. I don't know how they survived the Wyatt Teller thing.
B. Scott
Well, if I had to guess, if I had to guess, if something were to happen to Wyatt Teller like in week two, I would think Keelan Rutledge, even if Keelan Rutledge were playing center, based on how the team's constructed right now, I would think it would be something along the lines of moving Keelan Rutledge over to left guard.
Seth
Yeah.
B. Scott
And putting Jake, and you know, Jake Andrews is your, Assuming Jake Andrews makes the team and he's one of the backups, that he would then be your center. That, that gets a little dicey. Now they're obviously not afraid to make big moves on the offensive line to address left guard. They continually move Titus Howard, your right tackle to left guard. They did it over and over again through multiple head coaches in regimes. The tough part about that center is a little different. You know what I mean? Like there's a chemistry thing with the center and the quarterback.
Seth
Yeah. Well, and there's a domino effect thing happening there. Whereas if you think that Keelan Rutledge should be and would be the starting center and would win that if he's got to be the one to replace Wyatt Teller, that means that Jake Andrews has to be the one to replace him right center. And, and so the domino effect there, two spots is that you've created two spot. Yeah, you got to fix two spots, which I think is again less than ideal. And also with Wyatt Teller, I feel like Wyatt Teller, if he's good, not even necessarily all pro Wyatt Teller, but if he's some version of that, he could make Ariante Ursary on one side. And whoever the center is, whether it's Jake Andrews or Keelan Rutledge, but better football players, if he is up to that.
B. Scott
Oh, I like that. The ripple Effect of the bet there.
Maddie
Yeah.
Seth
I think you're a better center with a better left guard next to you and your better left tackle with a better left time.
B. Scott
We had good left guard play on that.
Seth
Another part.
B. Scott
Yeah. It's funny, I was listening to. I think it was. I think it was. I can't remember was in the Loop or the Drive talking about this, but one of them, one of the shows was talking about the offensive line. And they've only been. If they. If they're not. Numbers were right. There's only been four Pro bowl offensive linemen in the history of the Houston Texans. Laramie Tunsil did it like five times. Dwayne Brown did it multiple times. Wade Smith and Chris Myers, I think each did it maybe once or twice.
Seth
Yeah, I know it was once.
B. Scott
It. Yeah, that. That's it. Which is according to them. And I. And I'm racking my brain. I can't think of any from prior to that.
Seth
That's the list.
B. Scott
That's the list. That's crazy.
Rachel Braethan
So.
B. Scott
Yeah, I don't know that maybe that's another question down the road. If the Texans are going to have a Pro bowl offensive lineman out of this group, who could it be? Yeah, who do you want it to be?
Seth
And it feels like.
B. Scott
Save that.
Seth
It feels like Ursary and that like that left side has the best shot at it.
B. Scott
My answer would be Ursary because if you get a Pro bowl guy in the second year at left tackle, you've got your next Laramie Tunsil and Dwayne Brown. Yeah, that's the answer.
Seth
Yeah.
B. Scott
All right, headlines. Not that many. You know, dead day yesterday, no Astros, but we found a few Rockets. Welcome back in an old face. Astros are in a big series coming up tonight, so we'll get to all that in headlines. Coming.
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Payne & Pendergast: Who Is the Texans’ Most Important Newcomer?
Episode Summary – July 24, 2026
In this lively episode of Houston’s sharpest sports talk show, B. Scott sits in for Seth Payne to break down one of the most pressing training camp questions alongside Sean Pendergast: Who is the most important newcomer for the 2026 Texans? With camp just days away and expectations running high for Demeco Ryans’ squad, the hosts dig deep into the significance of offseason additions, from draft picks to free agents and trades. Their discussion centers around not just excitement, but which newcomer is truly critical to the team’s chances to build on last year's playoff success.