Biden's Autopen TERMINATED? + Trump vs Income Tax, DC Shooter Updates & Tim Walz BUSTED | PBD Podcast | Ep. 693

Summary

PBD Podcast | Ep. 693

Date: December 1, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Patrick Bet-David (PBD) and the Valuetainment "Home Team" dive into a wide range of topical issues, including a major political fraud scandal in Minnesota with Governor Tim Walz at the center, explosive claims about Biden's use of an autopen for executive orders, Trump's proposals to scrap income tax via tariffs, updates on high-profile DC shootings linked to the immigration debate, and heated takes on media integrity, trans issues, and American leadership.

The show maintains its fast-talking, irreverent tone—often cutting through mainstream narratives with a mix of mockery, skepticism, and fierce debate. This episode is especially notable for unfiltered commentary about American immigration policy, accusations of corruption, and the role of data and truth in political discourse.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Minnesota Fraud Scandal & Governor Tim Walz

• [01:20–30:40]
• Context: The team examines explosive allegations that Minnesota's Department of Human Services systematically allowed and covered up fraud involving federal and state benefits, much of it linked to Somali-run autism centers and schemes that funneled millions out of the U.S.
• Key Details:
  • Tweet and New York Times coverage accuse Walz’s administration of intimidating whistleblowers.
  • Allegations that fraud was enabled to avoid being labeled racist, due to pressure from Somali communities.
  • Suggestion that some fraudulent funds even supported terrorist groups (Al Shabaab).
  • Whistleblower retaliation and tragic stories of State Rep. Melissa Hortman, the only Democrat to vote against illegal immigrant medical aid, who was murdered days later.
• Quotes:
  • "Tim Walz is 100% responsible for massive fraud in Minnesota. We let him know early on...but no response." — DHS Whistleblower tweet [17:10]
  • "To demonize an entire community on these mentions of a few is lazy." — Tim Walz (Meet the Press, paraphrased) [21:25]
• Tone: Both investigative and incredulous, with underlying outrage at alleged government complicity.

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2. Immigration, Refugee Assimilation, and Trump’s Hardline Positions

• [31:09–42:12]
• Context: Debate around the influx of Somali refugees in Minnesota, alleged lack of assimilation, and extensive fraud/crime issues. Citing Trump's calls to pause migration from “third world countries,” the hosts critically analyze policy and cultural challenges.
• Key Details:
  • Trump vows to “permanently pause migration from third world countries” and cancel Biden executive orders “signed with autopen.”
  • Data and first-hand accounts suggest serious integration and crime issues in Minnesota’s Somali communities.
  • Candid discussion of cultural non-assimilation, the rise of ethnic voting blocs, and the risks of “suicidal empathy.”
• Quotes:
  • "You import the third world, you're going to get the third world…enough with that [empathy]" — Vinny [33:40]
  • "There’s no reason that you should have this many Somalians in Minnesota, the most freezing state in the country. It makes no sense." — Adam [32:41]
• Tone: Blunt, sometimes provocative, mixing policy analysis with cultural critique.

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3. Biden’s Autopen/Shadow Government Allegations

• [40:13–55:00]
• Context: The show tackles Trump’s statement that any executive order signed by Biden via autopen is “terminated,” raising questions about Biden’s capacity, who truly runs the administration, and the constitutionality of the process.
• Key Details:
  • House Oversight Committee testimony: Biden aides and staffers plead the Fifth when questioned about autopen-used orders.
  • Hollywood figures (Spielberg & Katzenberg) reportedly brought in to help Biden with delivery and scripting of speeches.
  • Evidence that significant policy and executive actions may not have had Biden’s true involvement or signature.
• Quotes:
  • "No one would say…‘yes, Joe Biden told me to sign this document.’" — Rep. James Comer [45:31]
  • "Who are the people really running the administration?" — Adam [53:02]
• Tone: Deeply skeptical and alarmed by allegations of unprecedented executive dysfunction.

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4. Trump’s Tariff Proposal to Eliminate Income Tax

• [108:00–111:56]
• Context: Trump proposes eliminating federal income tax, funding government through increased tariffs. The panel debates its feasibility and historical precedence.
• Key Details:
  • While most see the proposal as political “dirty talk,” there’s serious analysis about tariffs’ potential to reduce the deficit.
  • CBO estimates cited: $2.8 trillion reduction in the deficit possible.
• Quotes:
  • "That's a pretty big promise if you can pull it off…Trump is talking dirty here, okay?" — Patrick [108:10]
  • "Zero. The federal government establishment will never allow that knob [income tax] to be removed…but could tariffs support a big tax cut? Yes, possibly." — Rob [108:54]
• Tone: Realistic but hopeful, with a nod to political theatre.

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5. Media & Thought Leaders: Tucker Carlson, Tommy Robinson, and Bias

• [83:13–94:58]
• Context: Panel reviews a heated online spat between Tucker Carlson, Piers Morgan, and Tommy Robinson regarding immigration, immigrant crime, and the statistical realities of rape gangs in the UK.
• Key Details:
  • Debate over whether right-wing commentators “code-switch” or “gaslight” their audiences based on context.
  • The team criticizes both the left and right for avoiding data and facts when convenient or when it serves their own agendas.
• Quotes:
  • "All I'm asking right now is I don't know where [Tucker] is going and I don't know what he's doing. And they don't add up. And I'm a guy that historically…I've always been a fan of Tucker." — Patrick [93:16]
  • "Hurt people make hurt people. Broken people break people." — Rob (regarding trauma and activist motivations) [120:19]
• Tone: Disillusioned with media, insistent on following the evidence and data.

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6. Trans Activism and the Redefinition of 'Truth'

• [114:29–125:29]
• Context: Viral segment where British commentator Ben Leo challenges a pro-trans doctor on whether men can have babies reveals the difficulty of modern debate when basic truths are contested.
• Key Details:
  • The doctor’s (Dr. Helen Webberley) claim that “males can have babies” is met with not just incredulity but deep concern for the future of fact-based discussion.
  • The panel connects this to the broader social environment where facts are relative, calling it “my truth” vs. “the truth.”
• Quotes:
  • "She believes that she's right…She firmly believes that men can have babies…and she looks at you like you’re the crazy one." — Adam [123:18]
  • "Less than 20% of Americans could agree on basic facts…How are we ever going to agree again?" — Adam [124:11]
• Tone: Alarmed, almost despairing, about the breakdown of shared reality and logic.

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7. Crime, Law Enforcement & The Weaponization of Blame

• [58:16–66:54]
• Context: Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz claims Trump deploying the military caused DC shootings; panel members deride this as outrageous misdirection, supplying data showing crime fell with National Guard presence.
• Key Details:
  • Statistics show violent crime dropped where heavy enforcement was used.
  • Argues that media and political figures “weaponize” events for partisan gain.
• Quotes:
  • "They created the chaos…they weaponize the courts, the media, and then install a puppet." — Vinny [54:22]
  • "Why can't the media say that? …Because they're part of the wind-up toys that they have become.*" — Rob [61:20]
• Tone: Frustrated, critical of politicians exploiting tragedy and ignoring solutions.

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8. Charlie Kirk Assassination Conspiracy & Life Insurance

• [126:02–133:24]
• Context: Addressing conspiracy theories regarding life insurance payouts to Erica Kirk after her husband Charlie Kirk’s assassination. The panel explains that large key man and estate-planning policies are normal.
• Key Details:
  • Annual premiums referenced are standard for high-net-worth insurance planning.
  • Refusal to entertain baseless and sensational claims.
• Quotes:
  • "This is exactly how life insurance works…she’s making it seem salacious…totally normal." — Adam [132:04 & 132:28]
• Tone: Matter-of-fact, committed to demystifying financial concepts for their audience.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You import the third world, you're going to get the third world." — Vinny [33:40]
• "Do you realize what happens if [Trump] eliminates income tax?" — Patrick [03:15]
• "No one has the authority to issue a pardon other than the President… I applaud what President Trump did today." — Rep. James Comer [45:31; 46:11]
• "If you don't protect America, we're not on the same page…If that part becomes a problem, my own relatives become problems to me." — Patrick [99:33]
• "Less than 20% of Americans could agree on basic facts… How are we ever going to agree again?" — Adam [124:08]
• "Hurt people make hurt people. Broken people break people." — Rob [120:19]

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Important Timestamps

• Minnesota DHS whistleblower letter read/discussed: [13:30–18:06]
• Meet the Press Tim Walz segment: [20:54–21:45]
• Trump's migration pause & autopen orders: [38:40–42:12]
• Comic debate/"the truth" segment: [123:18–124:39]
• Trump's income tax/“talking dirty” to taxpayers: [108:10–111:56]
• Ben Leo vs. Trans doctor interview: [114:29–117:42]
• Tucker Carlson/Tommy Robinson/Piers Morgan debate: [83:13–94:58]
• Debbie Wasserman Schultz blames Trump for DC shooting: [58:16–61:47]
• Charlie Kirk insurance conspiracy: [126:02–133:24]

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

This episode is a whirlwind of real-time political analysis, raw skepticism, and unapologetic cultural commentary. The Home Team avoids political correctness, instead demanding data, transparency, and accountability from politicians, mainstream media, and even popular conservative voices. Rather than consensus or neat conclusions, listeners are left with an urgent plea for truth, assimilation, and the defense of core American values—delivered with trademark PBD humor, heat, and candor.

Transcript

[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Patrick Bet-David]

Adam?

[Rob]

What's your point?

[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Rob]

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[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't think I've ever said this before, Gang. I hope you had a good weekend because this guy in Minnesota named Tim Waltz had a rough weekend, to say the least. And you know who came after him? Not. Not some podcaster. Not. Not some mainstream media. Not. Not some local hater that doesn't like Tim because he's not good at video games. Not any of that stuff. You know who came after him?

[Adam]

Who?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Minnesota's Department of Human Services.

[Adam]

That's not right.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And posted constantly all weekend long. Can you imagine the credibility of that? That's like you're the president. Okay, so. And RFK comes out calling out the president for doing some fraud. Like, just think about that. That's the equivalent of that happening. But that's what's going on right now in Minnesota. So I don't know how the turkey tasted for Tim, but it must have been a. It must have been a.

[Rob]

And we'll talk about it. But they brought receipts and said he retaliated.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And then they showed. They showed the number of autism centers created in Minnesota year over year over year and the amount of cases. And apparently some 86 Somalians came out and said, if you don't fund us, we're going to turn against you and we're going to tell the world about what you really did. You're racist. You're racist. And we're going to put that fear in you. Anyways, it's a lot going on in Minnesota, folks, and Fort Lauderdale. Just chilling, just trying to do a podcast here, hanging out, you know, trying to get Adam to get married and have some kids. And over under right now they're having a conversation on when they're going to have kids. Before 50, after 50. Tom is talking about his, you know, considering a third. There's a lot of conversations that we're having.

[Rob]

A matter of fact, I'll be right back.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, okay.

[Adam]

Go get him, biz dog.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Babe, he's done, but okay, so. Okay, I'm back. Trump. Trump is actually really good. US May almost completely scrap income tax due to tariff revenue.

[Vinny]

The left will hate it. The left will hate it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Do you realize what happens if he eliminates income tax?

[Vinny]

It's Mount Rushmore.

[Adam]

First of all.

[Patrick Bet-David]

First of all, I don't know how they're going to do it, but just saying it is cool. All right. Trump vows to permanently pause migration from third world countries. Trump says he's ending Biden executive orders signed without a pen. Folks, that's a scary one for a lot of different people. There's a guy named Anthony who's not too happy about it. There's another guy named Mark who's shivering a little bit. Vinnie, I know this one guy named Mark. I don't know. You know this. His last name is like a Millie type of thing. You know this, this guy named Millie. Oh, do you know him? There's another guy named Anthony. Oh, with a last time. But the question is Miley Benali. The question is, will the Supreme Court allow for that to happen? California was wasting 450 million. This $450 million on 9111 system.

[Vinny]

Guess what happens?

[Patrick Bet-David]

I know Vinnie's gonna say some stuff. Then we have Biden AIDS speeches apparently were written by Hollywood tied to something. Vinnie doesn't want to tell me because he wants me to be surprised, but I want to know what Vinnie is going to be telling us here in a minute. Trump touts lower drug prices as GOP preps for 2026. I am the affordability president Tim Waltz on Trump calling him seriously retarded over immigration policies. Release the MRI results is what Tim Waltz said. But again, Tim, rough week in Colmer Court. Will back Trump voiding Biden executive order signed with auto pen. If he's right, the floodgates of. I mean, it could be extremely, extremely nasty. Trump to hand Putin Ukraine's occupied territories. That's a telegraph story. Zelensky faces political peril as corruption scandals. Consumes up, consumes. Top eight, make money, not war. Trump's real plan for peace in Ukraine. That's a Wall street journal story. Top five craziest laws hitting California in 2026. Wait till you hear this one. Tom's got some stuff he wants to say about that. Wasserman Schultz. Trump deploying military in Cities led to D.C. shootings. So Schultz blaming the president for the shooting. UK 1984. British businessman arrested over LinkedIn picture of himself holding gun in Florida. Can you imagine that? British businessman arrested over LinkedIn picture of himself holding gun in Florida. Black Friday. Online spending. They said it was going to be horrible. Ended up being record breaking $11.8 billion as American shoppers embrace new AI technology. Inside Florida's next chapter. Seal predicts massive expansion as wealth surges into the state of Florida. Adam's got a story here with. What is this? Erica received $350,000 weeks before husband's Charlie Kirk assassination. Bizarre claim surfaces online. Okay. Piers Morgan calls Tommy Robinson convicted thug and fraudster. Slams him for allegedly encouraging hate among children for skin color. Marilyn. James Patterson author claims Marilyn Monroe was murdered. An explosive new book theory. We know Tom's got a ton on that. Apparently. I don't know why this is big news, but Rob was telling us it's one of the top stories is that Cory Booker is apparently not gay. I didn't know that. No, I didn't know. Like it's a story.

[Vinny]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. He's not gay.

[Adam]

There's been rumors out there that he's been straight for a while.

[Vinny]

Get out. That guy that was on the. On the White House, the Congress floor.

[Patrick Bet-David]

To know who hangs with who. No, I'm reading.

[Vinny]

He's not in the community.

[Adam]

There's rumors out there that you straight.

[Rob]

Stop. Don't play this game like marrying gay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Like what there. So he is gay.

[Adam]

No, he's straight up here.

[Vinny]

Guess what? Fake news guys.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no. What are you doing right now?

[Adam]

I'm saying that I. There's rumors out there that he's straight.

[Vinny]

Says who?

[Patrick Bet-David]

So then that means it's not. Is it a rumor?

[Adam]

I don't know, but everyone's like, no, no, no, he's straight. He's straight, he's straight.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I didn't know this guy got this passionate about it. He got.

[Rob]

Are you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Listen, I'm very offended.

[Adam]

Half of the gay community don't. Disappointed. Allegedly straight.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Stop it. Don't do him like that. This is all I'm doing.

[Adam]

He's a nice guy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

All I'm saying.

[Rob]

Ah, sir, you have something in common with.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'm recognizing. I'm recognizing to say congratulations so all the rumors can stop. Al. So this man is straight. Leave him alone. Beautiful girl.

[Vinny]

Can we confirm that that's not AI.

[Adam]

I'm pretty sure that's true.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't know. Maybe the wife could be Allen Iverson's taller. Yeah. So anyways. All right, so let's go to the next one. So, by the way, congratulations to these guys. Two months after announce engagement, they got married to this girl named Alexis Lewis. Fantastic. Five arrested for weapon gang charges in Stockton. Trump doubles down on offensive remarks against them for this, the war, the retarded thing that they keep dropping. Trump accuses Omar of brother Mary says she could be thrown the hell out of our country. Kristi Noem claims suspect the National Guard shooting was radicalized in the U.S. vinny's good friend and Adam's best friend. Netanyahu asks Israel's president to pardon him in corruption cases.

[Adam]

Man, good man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Tim Waltz slams Trump's post and we got a bunch of other things going on here. How fraud swamped Minnesota social services system on Tim Walt's watch. We have to talk about that. And then maybe this other refugee shooting that's taking place. Guys, a lot of weird things are going on. Having said that, folks, you know what? Today's Cyber Monday, okay? Today's Cyber Monday. If you remember, on Black Friday, we announced something. One of the goals we had when we announced this last year was we wanted a million people to wear the future looks bright gear. We are close to 500,000 people. We're about to pass 500,000 people worldwide that have future looks bright gear, which means we're another half a million away. I love it. If you believe the future looks bright. You want gear for yourself, for your co workers, for your kids, for your spouse, for your relatives this Christmas, get them. You know what I'd love to see happen? Get people future looks bright hat and gear that don't even follow the merch, that don't even follow the podcast. Give them a Future looks bright hat during Christmas and see their reaction. So this is the last day that you'll see 30 to upwards of 70% discount on 99% of the items on vtmerch.com this is the last day. Nothing else will happen after this. Everything will go back to regular prices. If you're looking for a couple unique things that people are asking us about, of course, the FLB shoes, by the way Just so you know, the last 60, 61 days, I've worn this, except for one day every day. And today I'm wearing a brown. And Vinnie's wearing it as well today. This is all I'm wearing right now. Yeah. So if you want to get the shoes, the Black Friday offers to look out for is the Black Digital Black Friday digital course makeup bundle, all the events, everything that we have. Public speaking course, PBD sales system, SLSLS, leadership summit, vault recording, all bundle at 997. Great. Offer the shirts. I'm wearing a vitamin shirt right now. You can go a little bit lower up there. You can look at these items. We'll put the link below for you to go to. But if not for yourself, if you're planning on shopping for friends and family this Christmas, surprise them with a Future Looks Bright hat. Surprise them with a Future Looks Bright shirt. Anyways, in the meantime, go to vtmerch.com and place your order 30 to 70% off. And for the crazy ones, because all the mystery boxes are gone. Those are completely gone. We don't have a single one of those left. But if you're crazy enough to place an order over 2000, we're going to get all the lists tomorrow, we're going to draw one of them, and someone's going to be invited to come have dinner with us here in Florida. We'll go to Casa d'. Angelo. We'll have dinner. Then you'll be sitting right here in between me and Vinnie, and we'll do podcasts together. So go to vtmerch.com, place an order over 2000, and then you'll get yourself possibly a seat when we do the draw on. All right. And by the way, for some of you guys, I want to tell Adam how you feel. You can finally say to his face during dinner and over. Over oysters and bison and gnocchi and all this other.

[Adam]

And, guys, good news. PBD is going to take care of the bill, and I'm going to take care of your valet.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He will. For sure. Okay. He will.

[Vinny]

Nice.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's called genetics.

[Adam]

But of course.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so. All right.

[Vinny]

Hell, that was funny. Come on, Tom.

[Adam]

When's Hanukkah? Come on.

[Vinny]

He just. When's Hanukkah?

[Adam]

Tom?

[Vinny]

Tom.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Hanukkah this year, three times.

[Rob]

Hanukkah. No, no, no. Hanukkah this year starts on the guys.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Our first story is going to be Hanukkah. We're going to go into a different story. Guys, please. 14th to 22nd, we're going to go into a. Do know Hanukkah stuff. Okay. All right, fantastic. By the way, Adam had a phenomenal weekend on X this weekend. But let's go into some of the stories. Let's go. Some sub in the story. First story I want to get into. The first story I want to get into is the story of what's going on in Minnesota. By the way, imagine if you were to say somebody, a reporter writes a negative hit piece on you. Your name is Tim Waltz. All right, whatever. Imagine a podcaster does a full on investigation on you. Boom. Here's what Tim Waltz's background is all about. All right, whatever. Imagine if Fox News does something on you. Yeah, that's bad, right? But what's worse than Minnesota's Department of Human Services? This is a tweet that none of us saw that happened on September 11th of last year when Minnesota's Department of Human Services employees sent a message to Kamala Harris. Okay, September 11th. Rob, can we show the date so they can see it on the bottom? Please zoom in a little bit. There you go. September 11, 2024. They sent it to her. It only gets 45,000 views. Let's read it together, Rob. Ms. Harris, please listen to Minnesota state employees who work every day to deliver best services possible to our state and people who expect no less and pay our wages. Tim Waltz has caused incredible harm to our state and agencies retaliated against whistleblowers, against fraud. Zoom in a little bit. So what are all these things called? Feeding our future. $250 million. Okay. Child care assistant. Hundred million dollars. Frontline worker bonus pay $45 million. Evergreen Recovery $28 million. Medicaid 11. 10.4. 9.5. All Medicaid employee benefits. 8.6 million Medicaid. Medicaid 7.7. 5.4 million. Unemployment benefits. 4.7 million. SNAP 4.1. Medicaid. Medicaid, Medicaid, Medicaid, Medicaid. 4 million 3 million. 2.6. 1.8. 1.6 million. Futuristic Management Group. 1 million. Medicaid, Medicaid. And they have Medicaid autism clinics. $501 million, give or take. Then another tweet comes out saying the fact that. Why is it that in Minnesota. Check this out. Autism claims to medicate in Minnesota after Somalians opened their own centers. 2018. 3 million. 2019 it. I don't even know what you call that. 17, 18X to be exact. 54 million. Next year. 77 million. 2021. 183 million. 2022278 and 79 million. 2023, 399 million. And if you go a little bit lower, they ask Grok to verify it and Grok even responds back. Okay, have any of these guys been held accountable in Minnesota? Look at Groco. A little bit lower. Yes. The FBI and DOJ are investigating Medicaid front Minnesota autism centers. Many serve in Somalia's communities. Asha Farhon hassan was charged September 2025, which was two months ago, with wire fraud, $40 million scheme related housing fraud. Charges include Mukhtar Hassan, Adin Mustafa Da' Ali and others. Obviously many traditional American names. Probes continue with searches and links to other scams. Some funds reportedly sent abroad. And you're looking at this thing, right? And then Department of Human and Health. Rob, go back to their tweet of what they sent yesterday that got some 25 million views. OK, this is the one, Rob. Go a little bit lower. Is this the one that got 25 million views? Go a little bit lower. Yeah, this is the1.33 million views. So go all the way to the bottom first to show what they're responding to. So here's a Dustin George, the damning quote on Tamal's failure to stop fraud consuming Minnesota. No one was doing anything about the red flags. He said it was like someone was stealing money from the cookie jar and they kept refilling it. This is New York Times reporting on this. That's how bad it is. How fraud swamped Minnesota social services system on Tim Waltz's watch. 33 million views. Let's read what this tweet is. Go to the top rope. So Tim Waltz is 100% responsible for massive fraud in Minnesota. We let him know early on, helping for partnership and stopping it, but no response. Waltz systematically retaliated betting against whistleblowers using monitoring, threats, repression and did his best to discredit further proud reports. Instead of partnership, we got the full weight of retaliation by Tim Waltz, certain DFO members and in different mainstream media. You can go a little bit lower. In addition to retaliating against whistleblowers, he disempowered the Office of Legislative Auditor, allowing agencies to disregard their audit findings and guidance. Okay, this is a cascade of systemic failures leading up to Tim Waltz. Agency leaders appointed by Tim Waltz willfully disregard the rules and laws to keep fraud reports quiet, even to the extent of threatening families of whistleblowers. Go a little bit lower. That's pretty wild by the way. Keep going a little bit lower, Rob. Next paragraph. As staff, we firsthand withstand and observe fraud happening. Yet we were shut down, reassigned and told to keep quiet. Sometimes more leadership did not want to appear to discriminate against certain communities and were unwilling to take actions such as stopping fraud that would have an adverse impact on their image. To this day, no single agency leader has been held accountable accountable for their role in fraud. Whether it's Shirin Gandhi, great last name, Jess Gayle, Jody Harpstead, Natasha Mertz, Eric Grundahl or others. It's a structure created and maintained by Tim Waltz, who had created an environment of interrelated agencies, institutions against the media go a little bit lower in the media. Tim Waltz is dishonest, lacks ethics and integrity, has poor leadership skills and and has never taken accountability for his role in the fraud. Instead, he deflates by blaming national politics for his own failings and distracts the public image. It's just terrible for the state to say this as such, we can't find fraud in Minnesota alone. Hence why we're pleading to the federal levels of the government. We're grateful to numerous solid politicians, especially the fraud committee and media outlets. Thank you, New York Times, for bringing the plight of Minnesota to the national stage. Tom, how bad is this?

[Rob]

This is terrible, what they've done. And let me paint the picture for you. This and the coverage by the New York Times, everything else, it comes down like this. The Somalis, there were, excuse me, a large number of Somalis, one of whom is in court on a $14 million charge. So this is not a sweeping statement, but the New York Times said that it was a significant number of Somalis that were involved in. In the fraud. What they do is they create a fake agency. That's the allegation. Money comes in from the federal government and they use it for other things and they send it back. You know what remittances are? Remittances are money that leaves United States. California has a very large amount of remittances that leave the United States from Mexican families sending it to their parents and relatives in Mexico. There is absolute fact that a couple of the people that are prosecuted, the money was going back to Somali, to basically bad people.

[Vinny]

Al Shabaab, a freaking terror organization, to name one.

[Rob]

Just one. That's exactly right. And so what happened here was Tim Walsh got pinched and went with it. How much power did the Somalis have? Vinny will ask you how much power the Smalles have. If he said no, we're going to investigate this. We can't be doing this. What happens in next election?

[Vinny]

They don't.

[Patrick Bet-David]

They don't.

[Vinny]

They don't elect them. And they, and they use the word racist. He's racist. You're racist.

[Rob]

That's right. That's right. And by the way, and who. And who is their queen?

[Vinny]

Ilhan. I hate America.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Omar.

[Rob]

That's exactly right, Pat. That's what happened. The Somalis are using this as a welfare system and a scam system back to themselves and to send money to Al Shabaab. So thanks to Tim Walsh. In my opinion, Tim Walsh has no idea.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Walsh. This is no relation to Bill Walsh.

[Vinny]

Not Bill Wall.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is not a football guy like from the window.

[Rob]

Sorry for, sorry for my Canadian accent.

[Adam]

So.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no. Bill Walsh was a legend.

[Rob]

Tim Walls, Tim Walls, in my opinion is personally responsible for funding Al Shabaab because he knew all of this was going on. And take a look at all that. Medicaid, Medicaid, Medicaid, Medicaid, Medicaid. You know what that is? That's money coming from the federal government to cover the gap. It's in Minnesota. And you know what ARPA was? Arpa, Remember they said that they wanted the money to come through on ARPA. That's the American Rescue Plan act of 2021, which was under Biden, which put money back to the states that needed it after Covid shortfalls. So Walls knew the money was coming in. He knew what they were doing and he was giving appointments to people and intimidating people to keep them quiet. Because if he went up against the Somalis, he was going up against Elon Omar. And in his next election he's dead, by the way.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Not physically, he's not.

[Rob]

Physically. He's over his political career. Would check this next election.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is this where she. He's being questioned about it?

[Rob]

Yes, with Meet the Press.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Ok, go for a knucklehead.

[Rob]

African descent have been charged, convicted and sentenced for stealing more than $1 billion in taxpayer money from government programs during COVID As you know, Governor, that is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

More than Minnesota spends each year to run its Department of Corrections.

[Vinny]

So I want to give you a.

[Rob]

Chance to respond to this.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Do you take responsibility for failing to.

[Rob]

Stop this fraud in your state?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, certainly I take responsibility for putting people in jail. Governors don't get to just talk. Theoretically we have to solve problems. And I will note it's not just Somalis. Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota is a prosperous state, a well run state with triple a bond rated.

[Rob]

But that attracts criminals.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Those people are going to jail. We're doing everything we can. But to demonize an entire community on these mentions Of a few. It's lazy. All right, so pause it right there. So let's role play. You ready? Those people are going to jail. Do you think those people have dirt on him?

[Vinny]

Absolutely.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so check this out.

[Rob]

Buckets.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, so check this out. What happens if those people you claim, like, I've had a lot of mops or some, when I would talk about who killed John F. Kennedy and, you know, and. And what happened with them and mob came out after, you know, all these other stories you hear about with Bobby and all this other stuff. Right. That happened. If those two stories are true, who had stuff on Kennedy's. The mob did, of course. And what did the mob say? Wait a minute. Now you're coming after us Because Bobby Kennedy, the moment he became ag, he went after the mob, of course. And prior to that, they said, except his dad's guys. Except his dad's guys. But it was. At first, they're like, no, there's no such thing as, you know, the Mafia. There's no such thing as any of this stuff that's going on. Right. Okay. If he plays this card and then he goes after them, the 86, who Batia was talking about earlier, that if they call them out and bought those 86 Somalians in Minnesota came out and said, we would tell the world that you're racist. If they know the truth and they have receipts, this is a bad situation.

[Vinny]

He's like, no, like. And here's the thing. He has to say, I'm gonna go after them, and in turn, he's screwed. And like his wife said during the campaign, you know what they're gonna do to him?

[Adam]

Turn the page.

[Vinny]

That whole. He's finished, Pat. If this was a movie. If this was a movie and we were sitting there watching this, you know, right now, what you would say, oh, the governor's in on it, and I just want to make it like. And by the way, do you know that during one of these cases, they were trying to bribe jurors, Tom. For like, a couple hundred thousand dollars? And they got caught. They got caught. A Somali was trying to do it. And just. Pat, when he's trying to be like, wow, this isn't just Somalis. Rob, can you put up the names?

[Rob]

Just.

[Vinny]

I want the audience to just. I'm going to.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'm going to.

[Rob]

Well, you know, that's what happens. The Somalis come over here, then they get Netflix, and they watch Untouchables, and they learn about Al Capone, and then they start learning all these tricks.

[Vinny]

Yeah. Start just Start scrolling down pat. What do you see here? Saleem Ahmed Saeed. Keep going. Abdul Khadir Nur Salah Ahmed Shadif. By the way, they're not all amazing. Yeah, I am your captain now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So.

[Vinny]

Look at all these. Mahmoud Bashir. Give me a freaking break.

[Adam]

What does that all mean, Vinnie?

[Vinny]

The majority of them are Somali. And what pisses me off, these are all the people that that were in charge of the fraud 75 charge in connection to the billion dollar fee in our future.

[Adam]

I didn't see that one coming.

[Vinny]

Abdi Muhammad. So give me a break. Give me a break.

[Adam]

Are you sure those names are Islamic?

[Vinny]

I'm almost 99. Point.

[Adam]

Say a couple more. Cuz I just. I'm not.

[Vinny]

A couple more. Hold on. Okay. And a couple of more. Muhammad.

[Rob]

Well, sure doesn't look like the Boy Scouts. Mobile, Alabama to me.

[Vinny]

So let me. Let my point.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wait, wait, wait. Rob has it. One point.

[Vinny]

What?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rob, we have to give a shout out to Sharon.

[Vinny]

Sharon Ross in the house.

[Adam]

Sharon Ross, by the way, she converted to Islam in 2017.

[Vinny]

You know. You know what? This is what pisses me off the most. The Ilhan Omars. These disgusting human beings that come to our country. Okay? Talk about the country. Bash the president, complain all the time. And then your people are robbing us for a billion dollars, you disgusting human being.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Listen, let's be a little bit respectful because last night the Celtics were playing the Timberwolves, okay? And do you not like good halftime shows? I like good halftime. Yesterday at the Minnesota Timberwol. Sent it to you. Minnesota Timberwolves and the Celtics halftime show. There's nothing like a great phenomenal halftime show, okay? Because it makes the game more exciting. You want to see the backsplash and you know, like acrobatics and stuff like that. This is yesterday's halftime show. I think you're going to love it. Zoom in a little bit. Go ahead. Rob. Is a.

[Vinny]

This is the halftime show. Seriously.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yesterday, Celtics, Timberwolves.

[Adam]

What is this?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Somalian halftime show?

[Adam]

Oh, no.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I've seen these group.

[Adam]

They're great. They're great.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Watch this.

[Adam]

We're bringing them to Miami soon.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is at the Target center yesterday. Rob, zoom out a little bit. Let's see what it says.

[Adam]

Look at the crowd.

[Rob]

Okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Somalians dancing. Pause. Somalians dancing at half court for the Minnesota Timber Celtics game. This is Derek Evans showing this. And it was verified. If you go to the bottom and check what Grok had to say that it was verified it was them dancing last night at the game, which Is great. Some people like that. Go ahead, Vinny.

[Vinny]

And so. And I know that you love when this type of stuff happens, Pat. You're searching, you're digging. And then something hit me and I was like, wait a minute. If Tim Waltz. Let's just say he is involved in all this stuff is happening Minnesota. Tommy, how much was it? Hundreds of millions of dollars in health care fraud. Okay, so meaning money. A lot of this money. Medicaid and all this stuff going to illegals. Do you remember this blast from the past? You guys remember back in June, guys That there was a vote to end health care for illegals in Tim Walls Great state of Minnesota. Remember there was one out of 67 Democrats that voted no. And she was crying. Do you remember who she was? Do you remember that girl Melissa Hortman. And she was murdered alongside with her husband. They went. Somebody went to her house. Vance Bolter, who by the way was appointed on the governor's workforce development board by Tim Walls. This guy. This guy went and shot and killed her. And he said this is Bolter saying this. He claimed Tim Walls also wanted him to kill Amy Klobuchar.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Stop it.

[Vinny]

I look Google that and say that if he said that. So think about this, Patrick. He knows what's happening. Tim Walls. Like I said, if this was a movie. That's pretty interesting. The one Democrat and Rob. Once you. Once you're done, find her. She's Pat. She walks out of the hall after she. She cast her vote and she's crying. She's crying because she's like America, we can't. This is. We can't do this. We can't give it to illegals. Americans have to get it. She's bawling. She goes home and she gets shot with her husband.

[Rob]

Weird.

[Vinny]

Weird.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Are you serious about this?

[Vinny]

I'm dead serious. This is 1000% I'll guarantee you in a letter claim Tim Walls instructed him to kill Amy Klobuchar as well. And notice it gets memory hold Pat, why Amy? You tell me. You tell me. I don't know. But he's saying and obviously they're gonna say he was rambling. He was incoherent. But why would you kill if you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Were appointed Also political Sen. Mandel wrote a letter on FBI which he claimed that Tim Wilk's order to kill Emigh Corden for about 57 legend rambling in a letter that former Democrat was running candidate as part of a plot Senate Minnesota Star Tribune citing people familiar with the writing the letter which is one page and A half is mostly incoherent and given inside into the model mind of Minnesota Madman. Yeah, he's a mad source told the outlet.

[Vinny]

Just saying it's kind of weird that.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The one person that voted killed the one lady.

[Vinny]

Killed her and her husband at her house and then went and shot other people as well.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Can I see the video of the lady that was crying?

[Vinny]

Rob, show her to remember this. This is. You're gonna. You're gonna remember Melissa. She's. She comes out of the vote and this is her and then she was killed shortly after this.

[Rob]

Look at her be hurt by that vote. And I'm. We worked very hard to try to.

[Vinny]

Get a budget deal that wouldn't include that provision.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What's her job?

[Vinny]

Speaker Emerita Melissa.

[Adam]

She was.

[Vinny]

She was.

[Adam]

She was in Congress, unfortunately. Killed by that guy. Right?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Unbelievable.

[Vinny]

She's a representative for. Representative for that. But Patrick, mind you, Democrat crying because she feels bad that these illegals aren't going to get their Medicaid. But it's. The Americans deserve it. So you know what they said? You're going against the grain.

[Patrick Bet-David]

She's a Democrat.

[Vinny]

She's a Democrat that went the only one that went against 67 votes that said keep the money coming after crying.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did she get killed?

[Vinny]

I think. How long, Rob? Was it a day or was it. It was Rob. It had to be that week. It had to be that week where she was shot and killed because the vote happened and then they shot her.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rob, go back on the link on the right there. On June 14, Harvard were finally fatally shot on her home in Brooklyn.

[Vinny]

What was the vote to.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Just think when the vote was. That's June 14th.

[Vinny]

June 14th. And then when was that vote.

[Rob]

To.

[Vinny]

Stop illegal aid to. To illegals. Aid to illegals. It had to be that same week or two.

[Rob]

It just says June.

[Vinny]

June bill passed in 2025.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Boom.

[Vinny]

So around the same time frame. How wild is that? And she's crying because she feels bad because she's like to make it happen, we have to take that provision out of the bill.

[Adam]

June 9th.

[Vinny]

June 9th. So again, Patrick, if five days. If this was a movie, you know, I'd say at this point. Wait a minute, Tim, you're the governor.

[Rob]

You.

[Vinny]

You have to know. You have to know. And then people are getting.

[Rob]

She upset or was she scared?

[Vinny]

Shoot, Tommy, she looked like she was. She was upset and scared in the same. In the same breath, bro. Five days later you're shot and killed. Come on, bro.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And by the way, Americans, if you're watching this. He almost became your vice president.

[Vinny]

Oh my God.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He almost became your vice president. He was such a knucklehead. One, you know, event away from becoming a president. Think about that, how close I was. Adam, your thoughts on this whole thing, you're from your family, so I believe.

[Adam]

My mom is from Minnesota. This is a story that I've been tracking for a while. So look, Trump has come out and he's called. Listen, Trump will say things that will offend you. So this might be offensive to some of you. Trump has called and labeled certain countries shithole countries. Well, if you want to find a shithole country, look no further than Somalia. And I'm not saying that in terms of opinion or emotion. Fact check me. If you want to talk about misery, corruption, low economy, militias, gangs, failed states, look no further than Somalia.

[Rob]

No working government, according to no working government.

[Adam]

I mean, listen, on this list you're going to find Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, North Korea, Venezuela. But at the top of the list you're going to look for Somalia. Now you might be saying, why the hell would Somalians in Northern Africa, a 99% Muslim majority country, go to freezing ass Minnesota? Well, if you want to look into Minnesota a little bit, Minnesota's nickname is called Minnesota Nice. They're the nicest people. Oh, they're so nice. Oh, hello Minnesota. Welcome. Here, take my house, take my family, take my entire state. It's all yours. Now at some point you're going to find some not so nice people in Minnesota who go, what the hell's going on here right now? I was in the meeting that we met at Nalba and I was seeing a lot of guys who work for Allianz. I don't want to name names, but a lot of them are based in Minnesota. And I go, guys, what the hell's going on with your state? And keep in mind, in the insurance industry, they got to kind of keep it buttoned up and they didn't want to say anything. And I was like, guys, time to grow some frickin balls here and say what you really think. There's no reason that you should have this many Somalians in Minnesota, the most freezing state in the country. It makes no sense. So you inherit these war torn, ravaged individuals who are funding terrorist groups like Al Shabaab and bring them through your refugee program that you set up through your church. You know, what's the book that you always recommend for people who are too nice? No more Mr. Nice Guy. Everyone in Minnesota who cares about Minnesota, this Scandinavian bastion in North America, needs To read no More Mr. Nice Guy and stop accepting the Somali BS. If they want to get on board and say, hey, we're proud to be an American, proud to be a Minnesotan, great. But I don't see any of that going on in Minnesota.

[Vinny]

Think about this. You import the third world, you're going to get the third world. And here's the thing. Your boy, Nick, Shirley, he went there. Patrick, he went in Minnesota. He was just interviewing people. The majority of them couldn't speak English.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay.

[Vinny]

Couldn't speak English. The woman would. The men refused, the women to be on camera. It was as if you were in Somalia. And I'm sorry, guys, this whole suicidal empathy attitude of no, we love, and enough with that. Because I'm telling you guys, if you haven't seen Europe lately. Yeah. By the way, this is just him going through and asking people questions. Go ahead, Robbie.

[Adam]

Here in the United States. I'm not speaking English. Only one Somalilah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What does it mean to you to be a part of Islam?

[Adam]

I don't know.

[Rob]

I'm not.

[Vinny]

Don't speak English.

[Rob]

Speaking English very well.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How are you?

[Rob]

Do any of you speak English?

[Vinny]

Where is this English?

[Adam]

That's in Somalia. Can women speak on camera?

[Vinny]

They won't let them put them on camera.

[Adam]

No.

[Rob]

Religion can. I wanted to speak with some more.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Of the elders here to see if.

[Rob]

They could share their story about coming.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Here from Somalia and how they've seen the rise firsthand.

[Rob]

However, none of them spoke English.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How are you? Can I ask any of you guys some questions?

[Rob]

No speaking. Speak English. No.

[Vinny]

Okay.

[Rob]

Do I need you speak English?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Casually picking her nose.

[Vinny]

Yeah, just whatever. She's going to eat it after. But here's the thing. You come to this country, you have to assimilate. You have to learn the language. You have to try to contribute. This is proof. This is proof. This isn't racist. This isn't uncaring. You come here, you suck from our system. You have all these freaking kids. You stay, you rob us for a billion dollars, and then we say shit. You call us racist. N o. And I'm sick and tired of people that aren't from this country. People from London, people from here. Look at what's happening with overseas. You can't even. And Chris, Christopher Hitchens, he did a great in 2009. He warned, especially with England, you're not going to be able to complain, number one. And if you even open your mouth, they're going to label you Islamophobic. Okay, enough of that nonsense. Hitchens or Murray Christopher Hitchens had a great thing in here warning you guys, warning them.

[Adam]

Here's the challenge I see in Minnesota. Where are the politicians that are speaking up against us? Where are the leaders?

[Vinny]

Out of none of them.

[Adam]

No meaning. You have Tampon Tim, you have Ilhan Omar, you have Amy Klobuchar, you have Jacob Fry. You have the other dude, the Jacob Fry beat, the Somali pirate guy. Where are the conservative American voices in Minnesota being like, guys, they have no chance. What the hell are we doing here?

[Vinny]

They have no chance.

[Adam]

Suicidal empathy, Adam, because tolerance that we're just let. Come on in, guys. The world's worst shithole country. Come on in, guys. Minnesota.

[Rob]

Nice.

[Adam]

Where are the voices speaking out against?

[Vinny]

Absolutely none of them, Adam. None of them. Because they're all.

[Adam]

What I said. What you said they would be worried about getting canceled.

[Vinny]

Let me explain something to you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, let me show you what president said about Ilhan Omar. Rob, if you want to go to it. Oh, is that Chris Hitchens? Rob, you want to play that clip? Because you found it.

[Vinny]

That's a great clip.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go for it. Business. Ladies and gentlemen, I beseech you, resist.

[Rob]

It while you still can.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And before the right to complain is taken away from you, which will be the next thing you will be told. You can't complain because you're Islamophobic.

[Vinny]

The term is already being introduced into.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The culture as if it was an accusation of race hatred, for example, or bigotry. Whereas it's only the objection to the preachings of a very extreme and absolutist religion. Watch out for these symptoms. They are not just symptoms of surrender. Very often ecumenically offered to you by.

[Rob]

Men of God in other robes, Christian.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And Jewish and smarmy, ecumenical. These are the weak. These are the ones who hold open the gates for the barbarians. The barbarians never take a city till someone holds gates.

[Vinny]

And Keir Starmer is one of those guys. Come on in.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The impossible right there. By the way, here's what the President had to say about Ilhan Omar. Again. Again. And then that led to a decision he made this past weekend that I think is very important for the people to know about. Go forward, Rob. So you're about to make a trade based on a friend's text, but which.

[Rob]

U do you listen to?

[Vinny]

Is it we could buy a house.

[Patrick Bet-David]

In Tulum, get optioning those options.

[Adam]

We could lose everything.

[Vinny]

Or let's do a little research, get.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Your head in the trade and make.

[Rob]

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[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Patrick Bet-David]

Frankly, don't need their people coming into our country telling us what to do. When you talk about, I'm talking about like Somal, where you have a congressman goes around telling everybody about our Constitution and yet she supposedly came into our country by marrying her brother. Well, that's true. She shouldn't be a congressman and we should throw the hell out of our country. Okay, now he's saying that. And then he turns around and Trump vows to permanently pause migration from third world countries. Okay. Permanently pause. Okay. Migration from third world countries. Rob, is this the tweet? And he puts this word Thanksgiving, everything is going through. And then on the bottom, I will permanently pause migration from all third world countries to allow US systems to recover, terminate all of our millions of Biden illegal admissions, including those signed by sleepy Joe Biden's auto pen, and remove anyone who is not a net asset to the United States or is incapable of loving our country and all federal benefits and subsidies to non citizens of our country, denaturalize migrants who undermine domestic tranquility and deport any foreign national who is a public charged security risk and non compatible with Western civilization. These goals will be pursued with the aim of achieving a major reduction in illegal and disruptive populations, including those admitted through an unauthorized and illegal auto pen approval process. So these two kind of have to go together. So let me read the auto pen to you as well.

[Vinny]

And can I say one thing really fast? The Immigration and Nationality Act, Section 21 2F, Robbie. Whenever the President finds that an entry of an aliens or any class of aliens in the United States would be detrimental to the interest of the United States, he may by proclamation and for such period he shall deem necessary, suspend all entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or non immigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be inappropriate, he has the power to say, enough detrimental. They're taking money, they're giving it to terrorists. Go to hell. Like, what are we talking about? Yeah, shouldn't that shouldn't that not to cut you up. Shouldn't have that been the number one thing? You married your brother to get him citizenship.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Allegedly.

[Vinny]

Allegedly. But still, if that's a fact, that's.

[Adam]

Actually common in that side of the world.

[Vinny]

Not common. Cousins.

[Adam]

First cousins. They're into the first cousin thing.

[Vinny]

Yeah, but to get him. You heard about that here. Yeah, course.

[Adam]

Yes, she did some fake paperwork. Allegedly. But I'm talking in reality. Oh, cousins be banging.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Adam]

In that side of the world.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, go back, Rob, Go back to the. The story here I want to wrap up with is the auto pen. So we can get into. You just had to tweet up a minute ago. Yeah, right there. Any document signed by sleepy Joe Biden with the auto pen, which was approximately 92% of them, is hereby terminated and of no further force or effect. The auto pen is not allowed to be used if approval is not specifically given by the President. United States. The radical left lunatics circling Biden around the beautiful Rosalie desk in Resolute desk in the Oval Office took the presidency away from him. And I'm hereby canceling all executive orders and anything else that was not directly signed by Joe Biden because the people who operated the auto pen did so illegally. Joe Biden was not involved in the auto pen process. And if he says he was, he will be brought up on charges of perjury. Thank you for your attention to matter. So he's going a step ahead to even not put it on Biden, not allow Biden to come and change it. Tom, your thoughts on this?

[Rob]

Well, there's very, very interesting. I have thoughts on this. I think there was a shadow government that was working around Biden that at times he was nearly incapacitated, unfortunately, sadly. And I say that legitimately. You know, people make jokes about we didn't have a president, we had elder abuse. I understand the comedic angle of that. However, it's sad when you're talking about the leadership of our country. However, James Comer, you know, the U.S. house of Representative from Kentucky, they did hearings and they talked to people, Pat. Now, if you've had great assistance over the year. Right. Path. And what if HR asked your assistant some questions and then they say, I take the Fifth. Like, wait a minute, you're Pat's assistant. I'm just asking you, did you schedule lunch on this day? I take the Fifth, and you keep taking the Fifth. What do you think that means? You don't want to be in trouble.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Comer, you talking about somebody that we had? Because that sounds like Somebody. Are you just like.

[Rob]

No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying they.

[Adam]

I think Mateo's doing a great job.

[Rob]

Just. No, no, no, no.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Don't drop names. I'm just saying, like, what are you saying?

[Rob]

Comer brought in White House staff, including some assistants and coordinators, and several of them just sat and took the Fifth when James Comer was asking about the auto pen. And then James Comer said, you know what was really interesting? He says this. There were several people who committed violent crimes, murders, and in fact, were actually released or had death sentences diminished. That was stunning to us because we never found any evidence that Joe Biden had ever said anything about that. He actually had spoken openly about some people that had committed nonviolent crimes, some white collar crime, and that he was giving some of them pardons. And then all of a sudden, we saw some people come across that were violent crimes, and we're like, you know what? That doesn't sound like Joe Biden. And no one could say to us, quote, james Comer talking about his hearing. No one would say, quote, yes, Joe Biden told me to sign this document. Yes, I participated in a meeting with Biden where we discussed the executive order. And yes, I was asked to go down the hall and place it on the machine and get it signed. No one could tell us that. And so James Comer, you know, opened it up and is like, hey, but.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You need Supreme Court still, Tom.

[Rob]

That's it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The Supreme Court still gotta be able to do it. So when he's saying.

[Rob]

I'm saying it's not just.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, I get that. I get that. But to me, you know what the last 2016, what the last nine years have taught me? If there's anything, there is nobody that has more power than the Supreme Court. Nobody. I put the Supreme Court ahead of the president.

[Rob]

Well, that's it. Because there is a thing above the Supreme Court, an etching that says there is no appeal except to God beyond this court.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And you hope, by the way, you're lucky that it's 6:3 today. On the conservative side, imagine if it's the other side. America is sold. If it's on the other side. If one of those guys that the Colorado thing. But by the way, here's what Colmer had to say about the auto pin. Go for it, Rob. Any evidence other than the very last person we brought in, Jeff Zients. I'm sure he communicated with everyone else that we brought in. He knew the questions we were asking. No one could say, yes, Joe Biden told me to sign this document with my name.

[Rob]

Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I participated in a meeting with Joe Biden where we discussed this executive order or we discussed this person's pardon.

[Rob]

No one. His inner circle. We brought in all of his inner circle. Some of whom pled the Fifth Amendment.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Wouldn'T even answer the questions, but those who did, other than Jeff Zients, the very last person, no one could say it.

[Rob]

Now, we didn't bring Jill Biden in.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Many believe she was the one that.

[Rob]

Was making a lot of decisions.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It doesn't matter. What matters, Jason, is that Joe Biden wasn't a part of the process.

[Rob]

And the Constitution is clear.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No one has the authority to. To issue a pardon other than the President.

[Rob]

The vice president doesn't have that authority. The Chief of staff does not have.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The 40, and the first lady does not have the authority.

[Rob]

So I applaud what President Trump did today.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I think this will end up in court. And I think our investigative work, the report that the House Oversight Committee published will serve as the basis of. Well, we will see. We will see.

[Vinny]

And I hope like we will see.

[Adam]

By the way, speaking of Biden, do you know he made an appearance this weekend?

[Vinny]

He was a potato in Nantucket. Like, just.

[Adam]

Rob, I sent you that video. Can we see Joe Biden looking?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rob, Wait, wait, don't throw it off.

[Vinny]

Yeah. While you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What is this?

[Vinny]

This is what I want to show you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, go ahead.

[Vinny]

So this, by the way, the oversight. The Oversight committee watch, which, by the way, Comer was a part of it, a bunch of these depositions, which I've watched a lot of them extensively. Pat, it's, it's, it's showing and admitting how they all propped up his decline. They put on makeup, they put on teleprompters, and, and he wasn't. Pat, for all the speeches and everything like that. You're not going to believe this. They went to Hollywood to help him with speeches, with the State of the Union and to help him with vocabulary. Guess who they basically put on board to help Joe Biden. You're never going to believe it.

[Adam]

Go ahead.

[Vinny]

Jeffrey Katzenberg and Steven Spielberg were brought on to teach him how to speak. And they were like, you're not using the right words. Is this video resigns? Yeah. Former White House Chief of staff. This is when I'm a loser and I'm sitting home watching this stuff at night, listen what he says.

[Rob]

And this is the only guy that answered questions.

[Vinny]

Only guy. It's all good. It's gonna come. He's. But Literally Pat, the only one that was actually answering questions truthful about what was happening.

[Rob]

Deeper questions.

[Vinny]

250. No, it's all good right there.

[Rob]

You can sit towards the end, we had Steven Spielberg joins I think for the, for some sessions I think around.

[Adam]

The State of the Union.

[Vinny]

State of the Union.

[Rob]

And Jeffrey Katzenberg was also involved in.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Some of those sessions.

[Adam]

Huge Hollywood, Hollywood.

[Rob]

Interview.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It was typically around, you know, boy, the language doesn't pop.

[Rob]

There is a different vocabulary or this is an opportunity to really slow down and deliver.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So it's around delivery and language, not.

[Vinny]

Around policy in any way, shape or form.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did Mr. Spielberg contribute to any other. He's the chief of staff.

[Vinny]

He was the chief of staff.

[Adam]

Former. Right.

[Vinny]

He goes they didn't help with policy.

[Rob]

He. So he by the way, you got to give this guy props on one thing. He was the only guy that went to that depth and was cooperating with the committee and answering.

[Vinny]

Didn't plead the fifth.

[Rob]

Other people would just stop and plead the Fifth.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, wait a minute though. Wait a minute though. That shows on alignment to Biden to do that. Yeah. So that means he's not aligned.

[Vinny]

He's not.

[Rob]

Or, or he's just concerned about answering the question straight because he's concerned about what happens to his career next. Or maybe he just got, as they say, you know, he got religious.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What career? What career? You think after this Democrats are going to trust him? Oh, no, he's wait to. To not follow the orders. You think this guy's going to get hired again by anybody for him to not plead the Fifth. Let me ask this question. Chief of staff, how important of a position is huge? It's massive. It is. Exactly. Okay, so when you're. What's one of the jobs of being a chief of staff? It's, it's scheduled. It's multiple levels about being a secretary.

[Vinny]

Huge.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Why did they call secretary secretaries? To keep what secrets? So you mean to tell me you want to say this. Do you think anybody from the administration like Jill or somebody told him, hey, you better not say anything, we're all pleading the Fifth.

[Vinny]

Absolutely.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Do you think he was received that. Do you think he received that message?

[Vinny]

Yes, absolutely.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If he received that message to plead the fifth most and he just said that he will never have a job on the Democratic side ever again unless if it's somebody else hired him, it's an outsider winning in the Democratic set to hire somebody like this. He'll never have that high, higher up of a job again. What does he currently do right now? Rob, can you look him up to see what he does right now?

[Rob]

Sure.

[Patrick Bet-David]

How dare you go against. Oh, wow. What does do today? Yeah. For job.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let's see what he does today.

[Rob]

He came out of private sector.

[Adam]

By the way.

[Vinny]

He worked under Obama.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Came out of private sector.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He's not a. I just want to know what he does today so we know what we're going to do. Onto a gentleman as I don't know. He's official former. There's no longer a White House Senate. But what does he do today? Zionist background. Zion's background is a fix it. I just wanted to get your reaction. Zion's background is a fix it executive. Both of them. Bronson went down.

[Vinny]

Everybody wins.

[Patrick Bet-David]

History. Even as of now, Jeff Zane is not holding active office. His major role. Okay, so he's chilling.

[Vinny]

He has money. He's a freaking investor.

[Rob]

Supposedly he was an executive.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What is this Net worth is sure. What's his net worth? Does he have a few money. Let's see what kind of money this guy's got. I think he's doing okay.

[Vinny]

Oh, okay. He's good.

[Adam]

Somewhere between.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He doesn't need a Democratic Party.

[Vinny]

What a jump. 68 million to 338 million. But you know what? You know what this shows that they controlled everything. It wasn't a presidency. It was like Hollywood production. And even the aides didn't know who was signing it. And what should scare everybody for four years, you don't know who was definitively running the country, who was running the United States of America. And it's the same people that are going after Trump to try to destroy him with Tom's Color Revolution, which is working to a T, but thank God the people were fighting for it. But this is. This is a scary, scary thing. Who are those? Who are the people in the earth? Was it the Hillary's. Was it the Obama saying, hey, make sure he does.

[Rob]

By the way, is it possible that this guy just said, all right, I'm not doing this. I'm just going to cooperate. I'm not going to out everybody name by name, but I'm going to answer it so I'm not prosecuted later and I'm out of here?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yes.

[Rob]

Is it possible?

[Patrick Bet-David]

What I'm saying to you is this is a form of being like a lowest level of whistleblower.

[Rob]

I agree.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay. Just so you know, I agree. But when he did that, is he married?

[Rob]

Can.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Can we see his wife and kids if he's married? Does he have a family? Not trying to Mayor. Okay. He Is so he's a Duke University guy. He's probably got kids. Yeah. He's probably like, listen, this political stuff, I am out.

[Vinny]

I'm done.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I want to have nothing to do with it. I want to go back to my personal life now, watch him show back up. But to me, yeah, good for them. They got a family. They're doing their thing. Rob, I didn't mean to put her on blast. I'm just trying to check to see if the guy's married or not gonna say, like, you know, she went to UC Berkeley stuff. We're not trying to do that, but good for him for doing that. However, he will never have a job at that level ever again. He will never be a chief of White House ever again. If he does, I don't think it's going to be an establishment left that hires him.

[Adam]

Of course.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Adam.

[Adam]

Well, the whole conversation around Biden using the auto pen is they were like, who's in charge? Well, pick your poison. Do you want the incapacitated vegetable allegedly in charge? No. Or do you want his handlers in charge? You're not even sure who these people are. Also no. This is the danger of electing a guy that you're not really sure his mental stamina. Now, a lot of people made the mistake, but the question is, did you double down on it and try to defend Biden when he was clearly inept, or did you make the savage mistake of trying to prop up Kamala Harris as if she would be any better. So what role did Kamala have here? What role did the chief of staff here, Ron Klain, this guy Jeff Zients, whatever it is, who are the people really running the administration? Because you know how, like, Rob, you drive a Tesla, right? I do. You're like, sometimes I'll just put it on autopilot and it'll drive for me. Yeah, you do that. When everything's clear and everything's going great. The country was falling apart under Biden. He's still like, autopiling it up. That's the biggest problem.

[Vinny]

But. No, but the biggest problem is what Tom talked about, and I'll say very, very briefly, the color revolution, which is a globalist communist playbook where this is how easy they turn the public against the leader that the people actually voted for. We voted for Trump.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Ok?

[Vinny]

And they unleash disorder, blm, antifa, cities burning while they call it peaceful.

[Rob]

Check.

[Vinny]

They weaponize the courts, the media, big tech, Zuckerbucks, 400 million to count votes.

[Rob]

Soros and the DA's and then they.

[Vinny]

Install a puppet who answers to. To outside forces like China and Blinken and all these guys and older Biden. Check, and that's it. So, Adam, it's not like what they voted for. They were installed. They cheated in 2020 with the hunter Biden laptop and covering up voting centers so we couldn't see the votes. Like, the jig is up. We know what the hell they did, and that's who they wanted. They wanted this guy in to puppet his ass to wherever he wanted to go. And those voted for him and the people that voted for him. Unbelievable.

[Adam]

Can I give you a little, maybe devil's advocate for a second? Get devil. So this weekend, I'm in Miami, and I'm having a conversation with a very, very good friend of mine.

[Vinny]

Great movie.

[Adam]

And he looks at me and he goes, what the hell happened to you, bro? I go, what do you mean? He goes, I see what you're doing with your Trump thing. Who paid you? I go, what? He goes, this is so unlike. I haven't seen him in a while. He goes, so unlike you. I go, what do you. What do you mean? He goes, trump? Really, bro? Really?

[Patrick Bet-David]

I would have done this.

[Adam]

I'm like. I'm like, trump's killing it right now. He's doing awesome. He's like, you disgust me. I go, really? Who do you like? He goes, I like Obama. I go, yeah, cool, great. But he hasn't been president, I don't know, 10 years. Who do you like now? He's like, I like Obama. I go, no, I get that. Who do you like now? He's like, well, not Trump. I go, that's not the end. I go, who do you like? He keeps saying Obama.

[Vinny]

He doesn't have a name.

[Adam]

No, no, no.

[Rob]

His candidate is not Trump.

[Adam]

I know. I go, I get it. You don't like Trump. You like Obama. But current politicians, who would you vote for now? And he goes, I guess just give me the California guy. That's what he says. I go, gavin Newsom. That's your answer? I go, give me one thing Gavin Newsom has done. He goes, well, at least he's decent. And this is the point of my thing. People are so tds broken by Trump that they can't get past the fact that he's not decent. He's not the typical president where he goes, you're stupid, you're gay, you're fat. When you are stupid, gay, and fat, whatever it is, they can't get past that. So no matter how many wins Trump gets, they don't care because he doesn't quote, unquote, live up to the stereotypical decent president. I go, so you'd rather have a corrupt reptile person like Gavin Newsom or a walking vegetable like Joe Biden or bring back the Obama years because you hate Trump this much? I'm not buying it. Just a video of Biden.

[Patrick Bet-David]

All right. And I'm assuming he's no longer a friend.

[Adam]

No, I love the guy. And I told him, I go, we're always going to be friends. But you've, like, you have tds and we're not going to find common ground in this. But here, let me buy you a beer. And I bought him a beer. I love the guy. He just. He has tds. It is what it is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you buy him a Bud Light? Like, you know, did you buy.

[Adam]

Yes, but do you want to know?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Did you intentionally. Can I tell you what offends you?

[Adam]

Say this to a buddy. He goes, I go, do you want to know the reason I'm not a Democrat anymore? Honestly, dude. Honestly, Because I'm not gay. He like, how could you say that? I'm like, yeah, dude. Like, honestly, as a dude. As a dude, being like Tim Waltz for president. Tim.

[Vinny]

Wait, you don't think Pete Buttigieg, like, exudes strongly?

[Adam]

The point is I'm joking with him like a buddy would, and he got so offended. But the reality is a lot of what I'm saying is true. As a straight white male, as a straight dude in general, it's very hard to find common ground with the Democratic Party at this point. Sorry.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You okay?

[Adam]

Yeah, I'm gonna be okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I start off with Cory Booker. You lost him. Now you're going back to guys, I don't know.

[Adam]

I'm a flip flopping over here. Yeah, yeah, I'm with the chicks department.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, we're gonna move to the next door here. We're moved to next door here. Okay, so Wasserman Schultz comes out.

[Adam]

Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yes, Florida. She's still Trump. Deploying military in cities led to DC Shooting. She is blaming the President on this. Go ahead, Rob.

[Rob]

Have gone across the country to target law enforcement officers in Washington D.C. and I mean, the answer is likely no. So why wasn't the President's first thought, wow, you know, maybe I should reconsider deploying military troops in the nation's capital or in any city, particularly not when they haven't coordinated closely with the leadership of these cities.

[Vinny]

Why do all Democrat like, her hair looks like wet ramen noodle. Like that's always getting wet.

[Adam]

But let's dissect her message now.

[Rob]

Let's play find the facts. So she said, when we have law enforcement. This is from the statement by Wasserman Schultz and I'm not sitting here doing this for comedic relief here. It said when we have law enforcement that are quite capable of handling criminal justice issues. No you don't. You look at Chicago. The police were being had huge issues there and there were people in Chicago, citizens asking for more coverage. That is not a fact. Washington D.C. as soon as the National Guard was there, it actually the crime statistics and everything went down and the, even the local city councilman and the police chief and the mayor admitted it and one of them resigned. So fact there that we, we don't need law enforcement to focus on, not our military. Okay. Don't know what that means. And this is when, when they have not coordinated closely with the leadership of these cities. Wait a minute. The National Guard were paired up in pairs with D.C. police. They were coordinated. They got together with people like Eric Adams and they said, hey, if we ever were gonna do this in New York, what would we do here? And they got together with the leadership. The leadership didn't want it, but they were getting together with police and police unions. So Debbie Wasserman here is sticking to a simple, simple playbook. Trump is wrong, it's Trump's fault. And then is saying things which are factually incorrect when we look at what was really happening. This is all part of the wind up toys that they have become. You know those like wind up toy soldiers. Wind them up and they march along. And that is what you're seeing here. She is sticking to party lines, she is sticking to the playbook and she is all part of this color revolution. It's unfair, unfathomable to me that the media gives her a pass on that and a reporter won't say no, no, hang on a second, Debbie. Maybe there were mayors that speak up and that said we don't need Trump's help. Maybe that happened in Portland, maybe that happened in San Francisco, maybe that happened in California. But it certainly you saw citizens in the police union and other people that welcomed it in Chicago and other places, did we not?

[Vinny]

Of course.

[Rob]

Why can't the media say that? Because I'll tell you, when the President is going to go to war internationally, he's got four branches of government and then the fifth, the US Coast Guard protecting our shores. When the Democrats go to war, they have number one, they have the media, number two, they have Things like the UN and then number three, they have the coordinated disinformation that they're doing. Those are their weapons of war and you're seeing Wasserman Schultz being part of that.

[Vinny]

And guess what, Tom, The FBI came out and said that the national murder rate is the lowest in modern history. Cash Patel said that this week they're going to bring out the numbers. 25,000 violent crime arrests. That's double than the previous year. Double digit drop in homicide rate. And the track for the record low year, almost 500% increase in nihilistic violent extremist arrests, including the violent 764 network. 23% increase in child victims identified or located. It's unbelievable to blame Trump for putting the National Guard. Meaning that girl that was shot, was her name Beckstrom?

[Rob]

Sarah Beck.

[Vinny]

Sarah Beckstrom. She got shot by an Afghani freaking terrorist that brought his ass here under the Biden mayorkas administration. So for her to say like what people are mad about it. Ask the parents of the, of the children that live in these major cities in D.C. that are coming home safe and don't have to worry about getting shot or drive by or anything because crime is down. I'm sorry to say it, this was a democratic cause problem that the President's fixed. And Tom, just like with the border, why is everybody always complaining about Trump who's trying to fix the problem, but they don't say shit about Biden. Who created it? You created it. You let in 20 million people, you let in 80,000 unvetted Afghanis that we were bombing for 20 years. We have no idea where they are in Pat Thomas Homan did a interview and he goes, they didn't even check them for anything. No paperwork, no nothing. Just come in and go and go.

[Rob]

Speak the truth, man. Words talk, numbers scream. And you're bringing the numbers and the statistics. I'll take you back. It's been several years since I've looked over the statistic, but I know this, this goes back like four or five years ago. The state of Idaho, I think had one of the highest concealed carry permit rates in the United States. And walk up robberies and ATM robberies were lowest in Idaho. You want to know why? Because I think it was like 27% of men over 21 were carrying good. And so it really takes the fun out of a mugging. And atm, they were called walk up robberies, where they would walk up while you're getting gas or at an ATM or something. You know, I'm saying quick, you know, give me Your wallet, give me your watch, all this stuff walk up, give me your cell phone. So it really takes the fun out of it. When there is a 27% chance you're going to get a 9 millimeter lobotomy. Right. It takes the fun out of it. So this shows you that an educated properly. And by the way, that's gun control permits. That's a form of gun control. Who had the guns? People who got background checks, People with permits. So Wasserman is wrong. When law enforcement is present in a controlled way, crime goes down in America. But you know what happens? It stops their ability to create the second article of their color revolution, which is chaos. An educated armed public tends to turn down the chaos and raise it up, but they're still gonna find any way to put the spin on Trump.

[Adam]

So Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who's basically a congresswoman here in Broward county, by the way, if you don't know that is the definition of a swamp creature, she's been a representative here in Florida for 20 years and her hair has not changed. And that's the last thing that I'll comment about her hair. She, she's a DNC establishment fixture. She was the chairwoman of the DNC, I want to say, for five years. 2010, 2016. Yeah, when Hillary won the nomination, I think she had to resign shortly afterwards after the email scandal. So when, when she says something about Trump, it's not unbiased commentary, it's not neutral, it's the headline. Should sit, should say Trump hating congressperson said something again. And of course it's going to be, it's Trump's fault. We hate Trump. Trump's the worst person ever. He's basically Hitler. It's the same song and dance. Like if you want to have a little bit respect, give a little, a bit of like unbiased truth, truthiness to what you have to say. Give some sort of unbiased commentary. Of course it's all Trump's fault. We get it. The playbook is so annoying and it's just so better.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Chrissy Noman came out and Noem came out and said that the suspect in National Guard shooting was Radicalized in the U.S. here's Krissy Noem.

[Rob]

We believe he was radicalized since he's been here in this country. We do believe it was through connections in his home, community and state. And we're going to continue to talk to those who interacted with him, who were his family members, talk to them. So far we've had some participation, but Anyone who has information on this needs to know that we will be coming after you and we will bring you to justice. We absolutely will persecute you, because we do know that we will never allow this to continue to happen in our country. Allow individuals who came to our country that were unvetted by Joe Biden allowed to run free and loose. We are going to bring them to justice and make sure that they're returned out of this country. If they aren't here for the purposes of being an American, Benny.

[Vinny]

And if you think about it, okay, so the problem, I think the. I think the major issue that we're dealing with right now, all the protests, all the angry. All the people that are jumping in front of ICE vehicles and harassing ICE and Newsom saying, take off your mask. It's what. What do we do? Because, mind you, when you let in 20 million people and 80,000 from there, then you have these Somalians and all the bad stuff that's happening, it's almost like you have to do, okay, Since a few. You know what they're saying? A few apples ruin the whole bunch. You got to get rid of as many as you can because you don't know where the actual bad players are. And that's not Trump's fault. And guess what? This has been a bad. The border, immigration, for how many years? But it hasn't never been as bad as it was for this past four years. So I think there has to be a solution for the people that have been here, let's say. And you brought this up a while ago, five years, 10 years, whatever. And you haven't done anything. I think those people, Tom, should turn themselves in, meaning show paperwork. I've been here for five to 10 years, okay? Do a background check on me. I've paid. Yes, I'm illegal, okay? But I haven't done nothing. My track record should prove that. For five to 10 years, I haven't done anything. I've been, yes, I came illegally, pay a fine, do something, and you get to stay. That something needs to be like, they need to shift, Pat. And I think figure out a way for those people, because that's what these people are losing their minds about. But I'm sorry, when you let in 20 million, 80,000 from over there, unvetted, I'm sorry, you got to grab everybody and leave and then start bringing people back in. There's no other way.

[Rob]

There is a. There's a precedent for it. You know, the irs. You know, you can call the IRS and say, hey, I've been operating this business and things are really tough during COVID There are some unclaimed amounts and taxes. I'd like to have an interview with the IRS locally and I'd like to get myself clean before you send me the letter.

[Vinny]

Yes.

[Rob]

When you do that with the irs, you know what they do? They do a very comprehensive audit, very comprehensive. And then you will come to a fine. There will be a fine. They may not have the interest on it, but there's going to be a fine and you can get yourself out of a hole. That's where it goes. Also, if you run afoul of the EPA regulation, you can call them and saying, hey, my, my company was doing this. I didn't know some of my employees were dumping these paint products here out behind there into the soil. This has to be dug up, has to be clean. But I want to come to you before you come to me. There are precedents with the U.S. government. And when you do that, you're, you still get a fine. You still may find. Now, sometimes they catch bad people trying to convince, confess, but they're really bad. And, and they will, they will say, okay, you're getting the full. So thank you for speaking up, but we're going to give you the full weight. We don't think you're being honest about your confession, but you can bring things to the US Government, so why can't you create something in the same way that somebody says, hey, look, I came here as 18. My mom brought me here. I was 18 at the time. You know, I just want to get clean and I don't want to go sent to a prison in El Salvador. I haven't done anything. Why can't the government just put in a simple process that says, okay, well, as of this moment, you can't be here. And right now they've got like a two year go back. Oh, yeah, I think it's two or three year go back rule. Why can't we put something in place that allows honest people to get to honest people who are in the middle of an illegal situation to get clean?

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Adam]

So they're trying to blame it on Trump and the Trump administration because apparently he received asylum under the Trump administration. What happened exactly? Recently.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But it's important. You were saying that, that he seeked asylum or Trump responded to the dissent. It's mathematically impossible. And I want you to see this, what Homan said. Here, play that clip. Rob, go ahead. It's interesting you brought that up because go for it.

[Rob]

They don't have Systems like we do. So a lot of these, Afghanistan, when they did get here and get better, they had no identification at all, not a single travel document, not one piece of identification. And we're going to count on the people that run Afghanistan, the Taliban, to provide us any information. Who the bad guys were or who.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The good guys are.

[Rob]

Certainly not. And many people need to understand that most terrorists in this world, most of them aren't in any database because unless they were found on a battlefield by DOD in the retina scan and did biometrics there, unless you're part of a T3 undercover investigation, we don't know who they are. So in the same thing with illegal ambulances, over 10 men that came across the border of Joe Biden, there's no way to vet these people. You think El Salvador or Turkey or Sudan or any of these countries have the databases or system checks that we have? Do you think the government of China, Russia, Turkey, do you think they're going.

[Patrick Bet-David]

To share that data with us?

[Rob]

Even if they did have it, there's no way to clearly vet these people, you know, 100% that they're safe to come to this country. Some of these third world nations.

[Patrick Bet-David]

President Trump's doing the right thing, reviewing.

[Rob]

Every one of these people came under Biden administration and drilling down on them.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I really, truly think that most of.

[Rob]

Them are going to end up being deported because we're not going to be.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Able to properly vet him. This guy's a G. Yeah. So that's what he meant by of course. Yeah.

[Adam]

So, yeah. The Democrats are obviously trying to pin this on Trump. Well, you're the one that nationalized him. Guys, let's get one thing clear and just use basic logic here. Do you vet somebody before they walk into your country, before they walk into your building, before they walk into your nightclub or. Or after they're in there?

[Vinny]

No. At all.

[Adam]

Think about that for a second. Hold on.

[Vinny]

Come in.

[Adam]

The vetting system is happens before you walk into a country, not afterwards. I've traveled many places all over the world, Australia, Costa Rica, Israel, of course. Obviously.

[Vinny]

Obviously.

[Adam]

And anytime you go in the country, they go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Before you come in, we're going to check everything on you. And if you don't clear, you're not coming in the country. America, we almost have it backwards. It's like we have this, this front door where it's like you have to be vetted, but then this big, gaping, wide whole back door, wink, wink, that anybody can just come in, okay, unvetted yeah. So it's illogical. So of course they're going to try to pin it on Trump. Yo, bro, you. That he shouldn't have been in the country in the first place.

[Vinny]

Okay, but my question is this, though, the intention of the previous administration. I didn't want to say Biden because he obviously wasn't doing it. Adam, if you let in 80,000 of these people and you don't even vet them, you know what that means? They're going to be working and they gave them cell phones and money and they say, hey, listen, whenever we need you, we're going to call you. Go blow this up or go shoot this. Go cause chaos because the color revolution says unleash disorder. What great characters to use. Then freaking people from Afghanistan that are here that have no paperwork, no nothing.

[Adam]

So.

[Vinny]

And they give them cell phones.

[Rob]

Bad people that have good training about being bad.

[Vinny]

Yeah, exactly. And he worked for the CIA.

[Adam]

You know how you said, you know, bad apple ruins it for the bunch? That term. The other term you might say is you're only as strong as your weakest link. So the vast majority of people that come over here, the vast majority, whether that's Afghani, whatever, Venezuelans, the vast majority are reasonable, decent people. The challenges, I'm not saying they're not breaking the law.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't agree with that.

[Adam]

Okay, so let me finish my point.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go ahead.

[Adam]

The vast majority are decent people. Yes. They broke the law. They shouldn't be here unless legally the challenge is the worst of the worst. The worst of these bunch, whether it's MS.13, whether it's Islamic terrorists, that's where you're going to see the problems, because 90% plus people are not doing something.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, let me ask you a question.

[Adam]

Sure.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The statement. Ready? The vast majority of girls are good.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. Okay, so if I said to you I got a girl I met who. If I said the vast majority of girls are good, is that blanket statement correct?

[Adam]

What do you mean by good?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay. The vast majority of girls from Onlyfans are good. What would you say of Onlyfans are good?

[Adam]

What do you mean by good?

[Patrick Bet-David]

They're. They're good. They're good people. They're going to be good wives. The vast majority of girls on Onlyfans.

[Adam]

The antithetical to being an only fan.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so now check this out. To me, that statement is a lazy statement because it lacks data. And this is what I mean by it. I'm not trying to take a shot at you. There's nothing you said. No, no. But What I'm trying to say to you is what we need to use is data.

[Adam]

Sure.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Look, I don't care if you're a Scientologist. A lot of people trash Scientologists. I've worked with Scientologists for five years. Let me tell you, I loved it. I loved it. I don't have anything bad of working with Scientologists. They work their freaking asses off. I don't know why they work their asses off. Guy comes to me from Q Organization, whatever it's called. Q Org. What is that called, Rob? Q Org. Am I saying it correctly or can you look it up? The Scientologist organization called something Q. I've interviewed a lot of these guys. I've interviewed a lot of these guys, okay? And it's like, well, when you're in it, you don't understand. You don't understand what it does. You don't understand what it means. You know, all this other stuff, There's a name for it. Rob something. Sea Org. The Sea Org. That's what it's called. I said Q Sea Org. If you come from a Sea Org, they're some of the hardest working people ever. Now you may say, well, because you don't know what Miscavige and others do on the inside.

[Vinny]

Fine.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't have any bad experience with Scientologists. Me personally. Okay? Mormons. There's a lot of stuff that people will say with Mormons. Guess what? I work with some heavy, heavy, heavy weight Mormons. And I mean heavyweight, like leadership involved. Mormons, lds, you know, My experience was incredible. I had incredible experience with Mormons.

[Adam]

Me too.

[Patrick Bet-David]

On how they were.

[Adam]

Sure.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I've been to Bountiful. I've been to St. George, I've been to, you know, Salt Lake, God knows how many times. Never had any experience. I don't care what your religion, what country you're coming from, what your skin color is. I've dated more black girls than I've dated white girls. It's not. But I'm not saying that to you. I never cared. It's not to me. I wasn't like the typical Middle Eastern. We have to marry an Armenian. My wife's a white girl from Texas. Okay. I tell this story for the following reason. Data reveals results. This weekend, Tucker and Piers Morgan do podcasts together, which I thought it was a great podcast. They do podcasts together.

[Rob]

Podcast.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Forget about the F bomb thing. But there's another one that's, you know, you see, where it's like. There is one where it's it's like. Yeah. I mean, Pakistanis have never done anything to me. Of course, you know, they've never done. I don't know if you have. You saw this one or not, Rob. I don't know if you have the clip. If you have a play.

[Adam]

Defended Pakistan.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Adam]

It's like taxi drivers.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. They've never done anything to me. Okay, so if you say, like, they've never done anything to you. Yeah. They're probably physically not interested in you. Okay.

[Vinny]

You're not underage.

[Patrick Bet-David]

They don't look at you and say, oh, my God, he's so sexy. Like, let me find a way. Is this it, Rob? Is that the exchange? Is that another one?

[Rob]

Short one? Right?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Let's hear this one here. Let's see what this one says.

[Rob]

No, not at all. Again, who's going to do anything? Pakistanis are all super nice to me, and the whites are all kind of craven and sad. No, you're totally safe here, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so Pakistanis are super nice to me. Okay, then three Pakistanis they talk about. This is the part that Americans have to fully get little bit deeper with data you can track data you can track. There's this guy that just did a debate with Daniel. Andrew. Well, Andrew Wellner, Weller Waller. You know who this guy is?

[Adam]

Yeah, he's a great debater.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I know you're talking, but what's his name? He's phenomenal. He's phenomenal, and I like that. He's a little bit edgy.

[Vinny]

He's.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What is the guy's name? What is the guy's name, Adam? You know this guy's name? What is his name? You know, he said something. He said something about.

[Adam]

Are you talking about.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't know if it's Wilson or.

[Adam]

I'm pretty sure it is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is it Andrew Wilson?

[Adam]

Andrew Wilson. Is this guy right here, Pat?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

[Adam]

He's very talented.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He did a debate with Daniel, and we've had Daniel on the podcast before.

[Adam]

The Muslim guy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The Muslim guy. And they're going back and forth this debate and he.

[Rob]

He.

[Adam]

This debate right here, sir.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That debate right there. Yeah.

[Adam]

And they talked about rushed him.

[Patrick Bet-David]

They talk about low iq.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And he says. He says, why is it that the low IQ in a Muslim. He's going through the data and he says, because it's tied to incest. Yeah, okay. And cousins. So there is no rebuttal to that. So what's wrong with that? Right. But then you go on even deeper into that. That's data. Guess what If. Let's just say all of a sudden Muslims figured out that if incest increased the IQ to over 200 and bred kids, that created the safest civilization. Safest civilization with the lowest crime rate, with the highest level of advancement in technology and security. You know what you would sit there and say? What would you sit there and say?

[Adam]

We need more of those guys?

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, but think about it for a second. Flip it for a second. If data showed you right now, hey, these Muslims are up to something. What's that? Sleeping with your cousin creates 180 average IQ. There's a reason why Muslims have the highest IQ from Pakistan. It's because they have incest. You know what people would actually say? You know what people would actually say this. Well, I'm not with it, but. Very interesting. Yeah, okay. Very interesting. Why would God create that?

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The question is, why would God create lower IQ when you do incest?

[Vinny]

Because it's unnatural.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Because it's unnatural to do something like that. Right. Why would he do that?

[Adam]

Creates the dumbest people. It's his.

[Vinny]

It's the numbers.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That guy's argument that he was making this Andrew Wellner. Andrew Wilson.

[Adam]

Andrew Wilson.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Andrew Wilson guy. Very good debater. I don't mean to disrespect the guy. He's a very good debater. I like. I like.

[Adam]

Now he's going to debate you over his last.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't know.

[Vinny]

He's.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, he's DM me before. Before. He's DM me before and I like the way he communicates. All I'm going to. When you say majority of the people that come here are good, that's a lie.

[Vinny]

We can't.

[Adam]

Decent.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You can't even say decent. We don't know. We don't know. Because what I want to do is every time they take shots at Indians, Indians are coming and taking over America. Okay? There is people that are America first and there are people that are America only. And there are people that don't want anybody to come to you from any other place. I understand. Argument. Let's set that argument aside. Which is what? America only. Now go to the America first argument. If Indians come over here and we're getting Indian engineers coming from IIT that are better than our MIT grads, well, we may want to entertain getting some of those guys to come here. If you wonder how Indians raise their kids and why are they the highest paid immigrants in America? You know, Indians make the most money in America. I don't know if you know that or not. No immigrant Makes more money than Indian Americans. Americans do.

[Adam]

Good for them.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If you look at the stats, why is that? There's a reason for that.

[Adam]

Probably a lot of incest.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If we were to sit there, if we were to sit there and size up data, we can't say what you just said right there, which is what most of them are decent because it's not true. Pull up the data. There's a story that came out with one of the Muslims that got arrested. In his profile when he did his id, it said white. And a lot of Caucasians are like, no wonder crime for whites are being shown the way it is. Because every Muslim that comes here, they put them as white. What?

[Vinny]

You don't see this crime reporting in a bunch of states in the United States. So black guys, Middle Eastern guys, Arabs.

[Patrick Bet-David]

They say white.

[Adam]

I think they're white now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no. I think if there's anything that we have to look at is study the data. Study the data. If Muslims and Somali, if Somalians came to Boca Raton and unemployment went down, crime went down, income for people went up, safety went up. Okay. Job creation went up, you know what you would say, send me some more Somalians.

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Nobody cares if you're Somalian or Muslim or Christian or Scientologist or lds. Nobody cares. All they care about is what do you do when you move to a place. During this conversation with Piers Morgan, they kind of wanted to talk and trash. This is the part where maybe we disagree with Tommy Robinson. I think Tommy plays a very important role. I think Tucker says, I don't even know who Tommy Robinson is. Rob, I don't know if you have this clip or not.

[Adam]

I do.

[Patrick Bet-David]

There's a clip that says, I don't even know who Tommy Robinson is. I don't know which one you got.

[Adam]

You want to read this article?

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no. I'm just going to go to this because it's. It's a. It kind of goes into this. They kind of go hand in hand. Rob, there's another clip you may want to play. This one that shows. I know which one you have. Is this the same exact one that you have?

[Rob]

I'm not sure.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, just pull this one up and you'll see how this one goes. Because there's something going on here that we're uncomfortable talking about. Go ahead, Rob. An argument with a Muslim.

[Vinny]

With an actual Muslim.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I'm from Bangladesh.

[Rob]

I'm a Muslim.

[Adam]

We probably agree on a lot.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's the secular, self hating whites that.

[Rob]

Stand up from the table and leave when I'M meeting with them here about Sharia law. A strikingly large number of Muslims would like to see it supplant civil law in the countries in which they live.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Threaten Bulgaria?

[Rob]

No, not at all. Again, what's, who's going to do anything? Pakistanis are all super nice to me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And the whites are all kind of.

[Rob]

Craving and sad, so you're totally safe here, man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The United States, driven by people like Tommy Robinson here.

[Rob]

Who's Tommy Robinson?

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know Tommy Robinson?

[Rob]

He seems like a fraud to me.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He's not even Tommy Robinson.

[Adam]

His name's Stephen Yaxley.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It's not even his real name. He's also convicted of multiple crimes, thuggery, fraud.

[Rob]

I don't even know anything about him, but he doesn't seem. I don't even know anything about him, but he.

[Adam]

Why do you have him on your show then, Tucker, since you don't know anything about him?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Adam, rewind a little bit. Oh, my God.

[Rob]

United Kingdom has become a mere shadow of the nation that gave us freedom of speech, freedom of the press, a.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Host of other rights that we take.

[Rob]

For granted but probably should not take for granted.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Nobody knows that better than Tommy Robinson.

[Rob]

In May of this year, he was.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Arrested for attempting to cover the trial.

[Rob]

Of a sexual gang in the uk.

[Adam]

So he didn't know him, but they did a whole segment.

[Vinny]

Well, he said, I don't know him, and then immediately after was like, I think he's a fraud. You can't say I don't know him and then accuse him of being something. And on the flip side as well, even Pierce. Pierce knows who, who he is. He's the only one of the only ones actually sticking up for the people and calling out all the crap that's happening with these Pakistani rape gans. And I don't know why. It's especially with Tucker acting like he doesn't know who he is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I actually understand Pierce's position.

[Rob]

Sure.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know why I understand Pierce's position? Because Pierce and Tommy have a history of 10, 15 years. Okay, so I get it. There's animosity there. I fully understand that. I'm trying to find out Tucker's position. What's Tucker's position with Tommy Robinson? I, I, I, I don't understand what Tucker's position is with Tommy Robinson.

[Rob]

Do you?

[Patrick Bet-David]

He knows the stats. Tucker knows the stats.

[Vinny]

So why would he.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What's going on?

[Vinny]

Why would he act like, like Pakistanis? And mind you, when you talk about the stats, look at the numbers of the rape gangs that they covered up for how many years? Just because Tucker's going in a cab and they're nice. Okay, the taxi driver thinks that you're nice, but you can't deny the fact that it's been a freaking epidemic for how many, what? 10, 10 plus years where the share. Everybody was covering up the problems. And just really quick, Adam, Robbie, I sent you the slack. The FBI crime stats when they, when we say that they're rigged. There was a guy, that Afghan national who just tried to bomb Texas. Look what they have him as. Look at that. Oh, weird. He's white. He's white. That's like calling Saddam Hussein a cracker. Like, it doesn't make sense. And no, it's true because people are like, vinnie, you're white.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, Tommy responds, he's a brown. Rob, I don't know if you have the Tommy response to Pierce and to. To Tucker and Tommy. I don't know how you describe Tommy. Tommy is gangster. Well, he for sure is against a good way. I mean, but Elon retweeted his documentary that got a couple hundred million views and he got arrested. And by the way, Elon funds his court case and he won. Right, go on and play to play the clip.

[Adam]

Rob Tucker Colson on the video yesterday.

[Rob]

Talking about he has more in common with his Pakistani taxi driver than he.

[Vinny]

Does some white middle class American.

[Adam]

Yeah, what do you know? What does Tucker Colson know about living in a Pakistani town? 50% of my town's Pakistani. You don't know nothing about Pakistani taxi drivers.

[Rob]

We do.

[Adam]

We're beaten up by my whole growing up. Our daughters are abused by them, our wives are harassed by them, yet you pretend you know something.

[Rob]

What do you know in the United.

[Vinny]

States of America about growing up around Islamic immigration? They're all talking about all the Muslims.

[Rob]

And the Christians are together. Yeah, come and say that in Europe.

[Vinny]

Come experience that in Europe.

[Adam]

We're not together. They're not with us, you clowns. But I listen to all these new right wing commentators talking just because they hate Jews or hate Israel, saying we need to work together with the Muslims. Yeah, come and speak to people who live with Islam.

[Rob]

It. It's infuriating.

[Adam]

I'm watching like even Tuck Colson thinking.

[Rob]

What do you know about Pakistani tax drivers, mate? What do you know?

[Adam]

Do you know who's ferried all of our girls around in every town city in Rotherham, Telford, Oldham, Rochdale, Birmingham, Bradford, Leeds. Every city where our daughter's been raped? Who ferried them round? Pakistani taxi drivers, Tucker, your mates, who.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You'D rather hang around with.

[Adam]

You know nothing about this subject, so.

[Rob]

Don'T try talking about it just because.

[Adam]

Guitar are in your back ass.

[Vinny]

Oh.

[Rob]

Because it's pretty infuriating.

[Vinny]

I mean, guitars in your back ass.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But what does that mean?

[Vinny]

He's like.

[Adam]

By Qatar.

[Vinny]

Not to cut you off, but. But I have to.

[Rob]

What.

[Vinny]

Why else would Tucker switch? Like, how do you change your stance, act like you don't know who this guy is and try to just say because you've been in a couple taxi cabs in London or wherever he go.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go speculate. One, to me, he's trolling. Two, he is intentionally doing this. Okay, is it fair to say that tucker is high IQ, extremely brilliant, 1000%. So. So there are certain. I had a guy who. Extremely brilliant guy. And I told him, I said, you know, you know what authority you lose the moment you claim you're very smart? He says, what? I said, you're very good at going around telling everybody how smart you and how high of an IQ score you got. He says, yeah. I said, you lose the permission to act dumb. You know exactly what you're doing. You're. You know exactly what you're doing. And he was like stuck right there. Didn't know what to say. Tucker's a very high IQ guy. What is he doing? I don't. What are you doing? I. I don't understand what you're doing now, by the way, when you live in Maine, I don't know the population of Pakistanis in Maine. I don't know the population of Pakistanis in Florida. I don't know that. I don't know where you live and how close you live. To me, it's all data. If the stats comes out and tells me what they're producing, if it's that great more if it produces none, then. Then leave it alone. And don't, don't go back to it. I'm having a hard time really understanding his argument. I get Pierces. I don't know what Tucker.

[Vinny]

And really, really quick and just to be. You want to talk about stats, you want to talk about numbers? There is approximately 2 billion Muslims in the world. Okay, let's just say this can be a very conservative number. 15% of that 2 billion. My math guys, 15% hate America, wish that we would die, and they would love to do jihad and kill and destroy us. Out of that 2 billion, if 15%, and I'm being very low, how many people worldwide is that they want to hate and kill us?

[Patrick Bet-David]

300 million.

[Vinny]

300.

[Adam]

That's the population of America.

[Vinny]

That's a merit. Imagine America wants to kill us, okay? There's no effing around, but there's no messing around about it. And the statue of the Pakistanis and the. And the. And Muhammad with the underage girl. And by the way, I saw a video, Pat. A priest read the Quran 123 separate times. It called for violence against people like us, against Christians. And one of the main ones was stabbing us in the neck. And isn't it weird, though, that in Europe and all these European places, when these. When the Muslims are stabbing people, where are they going? They're going for the jugular. So don't give me that nonsense, okay? Yes, there are good people, Adam. But at the end of the day, when you have 300 people that want to kill us and we're just letting people come in here and they're sucking our system dry and killing us, I have a huge problem with that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Adam]

Can I make a suggestion? Just pure speculation. You know how last week, pbd, you speculated that Tucker is following Nick Fuentes, not the other way around? I mean this sincerely. Tucker is so establishment, so mainstream, so tv, that he forgets that when you do Internet stuff, social media stuff, that the Internet is forever. He thinks in his mind this could be completely wrong. That, yeah, it's on tv, the episode's out, it's gone. What Tucker, I guess, fails to remember is that when you post it on social media or the Internet, you can go back 5, 10, 20 years and find out what you said. So you can't play dumb because people will bring receipts. So Tommy Robinson, you're going to question with Tommy Robinson. So here's another example of the last time that Tucker sat down with a Pierce Morgan and he asked him a similar question about allies, Qatar, Israel. And Tucker played dumb again, just like he didn't know who Tommy Robinson was. Or he's completely oblivious to what's going on with these Pakistani rape games. Go ahead.

[Patrick Bet-David]

America's supporting Israel because it's an ally.

[Rob]

I don't even know what those words mean. My personality.

[Patrick Bet-David]

They're an ally, right? I mean, they both know what that.

[Rob]

Means to be an ally. Qatar is like one of our closest.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Allies in the world.

[Rob]

The largest American air base in the.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Middle east is in Qatar.

[Rob]

They're a close ally of ours, by the way.

[Adam]

That was six months apart. So on one hand, this is even a political thing. This is. You don't know what an ally is, and then you're defending an ally. The problem that I have with Tucker, yes, he's smart. Yes, he's been around the block. He's fake. I can't trust what he has to say. You know, people have scores. Well, you know, I trust him. I don't trust him. Tucker to me is fake. And he's not a leader, he's a follower. He's a fake follower who's smart. And now he's playing the Internet game, but he's losing because people forget that the Internet is forever.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I think if Tucker was 22 today, he'd be the king of rage baiting. I think he would be a rage baiting son of a. You know what? So, okay, he would be a guy that would know, like, listen, I, I know what it is to have a kid that knows how to get under everybody's skin. And you ever met kids like that that know how to get under your skin? They throw comments. That's Tucker. He's. Not only is he brilliant, not only did he go to a great private school, but then at the same time, not only does he have education from his father, who's extremely well read, and then at the same time, father, CIA voice America. And he happens to be entertaining and knows how to. So he is not a triple threat. He's like a quadruple threat of where he's at. All I'm asking right now is I don't know where he's going and I don't know what he's doing. And they don't add up. It just doesn't add up. And I'm a guy that historically, I've always been a fan of Tucker. I've always liked him. I've always thought he was necessary. We had this one group that came. Trigonometry.

[Adam]

Yeah, of course. Constantine kissing.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, he's great. He's very talented as well. You know, he came asking me questions about Tucker vs. Shapiro and all this other stuff. And it's like, well, you know, and Candace and all these things. I look at talent and then I look at philosophy. But then you have to see when somebody suddenly flips.

[Adam]

Well, there's another term, sir. So you say you call it rage baiting. Some might call it gaslighting. There's another term out there when you speak one way to one group and then you speak away to a totally different group. It's called code switching. So they're like, oh, you'll speak this way.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Like how Kamala Harris, 20 year olds like you?

[Vinny]

Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't know.

[Adam]

Just saying look, but code switching, so it's like, how. How Kamala Harris will be like, hey, y'.

[Rob]

All.

[Adam]

How my black people are. How we doing? Exactly. Then a white room should like, hello, everybody. How are we all doing? It's like, you're fake. That's not who you are. Tucker forgets that when he code switches on camera.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know? You know what's a part? You know what's a part of what? I love where we are, okay? Because I wonder how a lot of these guys look at us.

[Adam]

They look down on us. Pbd.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I love it. I don't mind it.

[Vinny]

We're not on the shit.

[Patrick Bet-David]

None of us. I don't. I don't view it that way. This is how I view it. I don't think I view it as they look down at us. I think because the track record of where we come from, they don't know what. By the way, we lose $20 million a year not taking sponsorship money. Do you know that?

[Adam]

I'm aware, sir?

[Vinny]

No.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, I don't know if you know that.

[Adam]

I. I know we don't take sponsorships.

[Vinny]

We're the only podcast.

[Adam]

We could take sponsorship.

[Patrick Bet-David]

$20 million a year, give or take. Not taking sponsorship money. 20 million a year. The company is 100% owned. The only company that there's a strategic partner in is Manect, which Tony Robbins became an investor in. Everything else is 100% owner in. Okay, everything else. Line, holding, consulting. Everything that we do. Right. I think a part of it is, where do you like, even the people that are like, well, you know, these guys get their money from this, this, this and that. $7,000. You think I need 7,000? I mean, I wish. I know you get every time. I don't even tweet a lot. I'm told. Tweet more. I'm not even. If you go count how many times I've tweeted In the last 30 days, you can probably count how many times I've tweeted the last 30 days. You know, sometimes you go on someone's profile and you're kind of like, oh, my God, he's got 18 tweets in a day. I'm not that guy.

[Vinny]

Yeah, okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If you count how many tweets I've had in the last 30 days. Rob, can we actually. Are you counting it, actually?

[Adam]

Okay, go ahead.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Count the last 30 days. How many times I've. You told tweet it last 30 days. The number is going to be very small because I don't tweet that Often, Okay. You know, I wish I could. I'm not tweeting that often. I'm typically retweeting a PBD podcast or valuetainment or something else somebody tweeted. And I'm, you know, every once in a while I get a chance, I'll see something, I'll retweet. But for us, we have no ties to the establishment media. How many times, Rob?

[Rob]

38. But a majority of those were, like you said, retweets of pvd, podcast or.

[Adam]

That's not.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So how many times in the last 30 days, I actually tweeted something less.

[Rob]

Than 15, because most of those are retreats of other things.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So to us, we're run companies. We're doing what we're doing. We have a certain vision. We love America. We actually in. In a craziest way. I actually love Ben Shapiro giving his opinions, as well as Tucker as well as Candace, as well as Curse, as well as any of these guys. Go talk. You know when they said, I can't believe Tucker had Nick Fuentes on? What the hell are you talking about? I got people that message me and saying, after having Nick on, you're done. But I got messages after having Netanyahu saying, now that you have Netanyahu, you're dead. We're going to kill you. Right. So to me, it's like, stop it. Everybody should talk to everybody. The more to talk and the better it is. Good. We need more of that. But to me, your priority, if you live in America, it better be to keep America safe. If that part becomes a problem, my own relatives become problems to me. I don't care who you are. If you start messing around with America's safety and I got four kids, I have no tolerance for you. I don't care how great of a person you are. I don't care how high your IQ is. If you compromise the risk of America and allowing people in from Somalia and all these other places, Afghanis, without them being vetted, I don't have any tolerance for you. If you're going casual in that area. I don't. I fear one person, only one. And trust me, I really fear this one person, and that's God. It's not even a person. One thing I fear. Like, I can't even tell you how much I fear God. I wish you know how much I fear God, because my life doesn't make sense. I'm a regular guy that has a great life. I fear God a lot. A lot. You know, when you're on your Knees praying and nothing's going your way. And you beg God to give you an opportunity. And this guy was about to go back in the army because I was $49,000 in debt. And then all of a sudden opportunity comes along and I try to be a firefighter. And I would have been a firefighter 20 years, lifer. I wouldn't apply being a firefighter. And they had a freeze in LA for five years or something and then all of a sudden, by the time they said we're open, we're hiring, you can come and apply to be a firefighter. Was already making a hundred thousand dollar selling insurance. If they would have sent me that letter a year earlier. I'm a firefighter 20 years, probably retiring at 40, 45 years old, complete different life. I don't meet Brooklyn, I don't meet Senator, I don't meet Dylan. I don't mean Tiklow. Don't meet none of you guys. And you don't know me because I'm a firefighter. I'm an Assyrian Armenian firefighter. Can walking around with my little hoes or whatever carrying out, going make. Yeah, that's who I am. Okay. I'm a firefighter. Middle Eastern firefighter. I should make that right.

[Adam]

You'd make no calendars.

[Patrick Bet-David]

But I'm telling you this because all I'm saying is this, you know, if, if you don't protect America, we're not on the same page. And there's a lot of people that fear a lot of these people. Oh my God, what if they attack me? What if this, this is how much I care about, you know, any of that stuff attacking what I care about is America being the greatest country in the world.

[Rob]

Because it is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And I want to keep it that way. And if God put this on my heart. We're on Sept. July 15th of 2009. I created a Facebook page called Saving America, hosting an event called Saving America by bringing back the free enterprise system and hope to American families. Led to our mission statement to start an insurance company. And I brought Larry Greenfield, I brought Dudley Rutherford, and I brought Michael Reagan. Ronald Reagan steps on to talk about how great his father was. And I was dressed as George Washington. Can you go back to Patrick by David George Washington. If you've never seen this picture.

[Adam]

Jen dresses Lady Liberty.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Lady Liberty, yeah, her and I. George Washington. If you go to images, pretty embarrassing picture right there. Look at that.

[Adam]

Look at you, you look nasty.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's a Middle Eastern George Washington. It just makes no sense. What's the date? July 17 Onai back in the days when we used to actually put the date on pictures that we have. So to me, that's where I'm at. If I don't get invited to the parties, if I don't get invited to any of this stuff, but this stays the greatest country in the world, I'm very happy. And I see where Trump is going and I see his anger and I see how frustrated he is with, you know, some of these people that were letting America thinking it's not a big deal. I feel his frustration and I hope he stays that way because that's what we will also support. But anyways, guys, I'm telling you this last week, we have been horrible at making friends this last week. But I'm going to tell you, if anybody is in a place of just wanting to sit there and say, look, all I care about is my wife, my kids, my husband, my family, let me have my life and enjoy myself and keep America safe as the greatest country in the world, we're on the same page. We don't have to agree on everything. And by the way, I don't care if you're a Muslim and you believe in that. I don't care if you're a Scientologist and believe in that. I don't care if you're white, black, Asian, Indian. I don't care what you are. If you love America, if you want to make this country the greatest country in the world, keep it that way, protect it. We're going to be okay together, and that's what we're going to be doing the rest of our lives. As long as God wants to keep us here, we're going to do our part because we firmly believe future looks bright. But we also believe at times you have to kind of, it's not comfortable having these types of conversations because you like these guys, because there's a part of you that watch these guys like. I, I like Glenn Beck. I grew up watching a lot of Glenn Beck. He was my guy, Fox, back in the days when he would do his shows. I thought he was the best, my number one Fox guy ever. And it's not even close. And when I say it's not even close, it's not even close. Was always going back. He was always number one.

[Adam]

You always say he's the best teacher.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Never. No. Nobody's ever been ahead of Beck for me, ever.

[Vinny]

Awesome.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Beck was number one for me, the way he was doing things. But guess what? You see each other, you know, everybody has different opinions, different philosophies. Different upbringing. And I get that. I don't mind Nick Fontes upbringing. He has his own upbringing, I have my own, Tucker has his own. Everybody has their own. But the moment you're playing games to defend somebody who gave you money and who's behind. Listen, guy gives me 10 million bucks, invest into our company, my first investor, big one. First one was a million, the other one was 10 million. He sits in a meeting telling me you better get all your sales guys vaccinated. And I said it's values over the flipping money you gave me. It was a four hour meeting that we had. Three four hour meeting that we had just to get everybody in PHP vaccinates. I'm not doing that. He says, why not? I said, do you realize the vision of the company was simply created by freedom of choice? You want me to go tell all my guys to get their vaccination? You're out of your frickin mind for me to do that. We're not. If they want to do it, I'm not going to judge them. If they don't want to do it, I'm not going to judge them. My own dad, who's the biggest conservative in our family got the vaccination and he knows I wasn't for it. But guess what? We did totally support it. He got two shots and then the booster, three boosters that he got my dad. We're not on the same page on that. Guess what? We don't judge. We don't say what to do. Here's what I did. We didn't take it. Here's my wife and I, kids that we didn't take it. Whatever you want to do, you go do. It was the most heated moment ever. I don't care how much money you give me to come and tell me to change some of the values and principles. And by the way, you know what is going to come. Let me tell you what's going to come next, Vinny, because this is not safe haven for them. You know why it's not. You know who hates this? Who do you think hates organizations like this? You think, you think we're not about to get some massive hit piece hate even from some people on our own side coming after us. Just wait for it. You know why? Oh, let me tell you how bad it's going to be. You'll see how bad it's going to be. And it's going to be from people that we've supported and maybe we're on the same page as well. They're Going to be the ugliest one. The way they're going to do it is I don't think they're going to do it like this because that's one way of doing it. But they're going to do it like this. Let me tell you, those guys, you know who they are. Let me take those guys. You know who they are. Let me tell you, those guys. Let me tell you what this kid. Did you read this article about them with insurance and mlm, just see what's going on in the background. I heard about this and I heard about that and the store is going to come out and then we're going to get people. If you don't do this, we're going to do this and we're going to be like, post it. Go ahead, post it.

[Rob]

It's coming.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Because I'm telling you it's coming.

[Vinny]

I believe it.

[Rob]

I am telling you it's high. It's going to be. They're going to get great things on. AI. Oh, you. You were at this party in college. There you are. You did this, you did that. It'll come like that and it'll be out of nowhere. Because the real question will be is why this? Why now? And everybody listening and everybody in this room, just remember, don't get angry first. When you see the hits, when you see thing, first say to yourself, why this? Why now? And they'll tell you a lot of what you need to know.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Listen, we're going to keep doing our part.

[Adam]

It won't work. That's my opinion, and I'll tell you why. Because we've been nothing. When I say we, I mean you as the leader and then the rest of us been nothing but honest about who we are. It's the eminem approach from 8 mile. Yeah. I lived in a trailer. Yeah. I'm white trash. Yeah. My girl. Yeah, you know it. Yes. You're a former bodybuilder. Yes. You came from Iran. Yes. Tom did this. Yes. We're full disclosure on everything.

[Rob]

All right.

[Adam]

What I do if you don't. You came from Canada. We won't hold it against you.

[Vinny]

You love four women.

[Rob]

All right, all right.

[Adam]

But the point is this, like, whatever's been said about this pretty much been out there. What else are they going to come up with? Oh, that they. That that is actually true. That's what I'm saying.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Never underestimate the power of propaganda.

[Adam]

The crap won't come out there, but it won't work. Because smear campaign. It's like, why do These. Why don't stories not work against Donald Trump? Because he goes, yes, I said it. It is what it is. That's why.

[Vinny]

And guess what? Bring it on.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah. Oh, I give you this.

[Rob]

On the other side, one thing to think about. Vincent screwed Bernie Sanders in South Carolina. His own freaking people.

[Vinny]

Yep.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It won't work, guys. I'm just telling you. I'm telling you. So, so anyways, let me get to the next story here.

[Adam]

So that was directed. Yeah, the beginning of this Tucker story.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, this is not direct.

[Adam]

I'm not saying directed to Tucker, but I'm saying the story was starting with Tucker.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Of course.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Because. Because to me, you know, I have a whole slew of opinions on certain things that's going on, but little by little, we'll keep talking. So. Okay, let me go to the next thing here. Trump US May almost completely scrap income taxes due to tariff revenue. Now, you know what that is like? That's kind of like you're talking dirty to a girl and you say, you won't even know what I'm going to do tonight. And then later on is like, what? It only was like, 48 seconds. I thought you were going to. Really? Well, yeah, but next time, you won't even believe what I'm going to do to you next time. President Trump is talking dirty here, okay? And taxpayers are sitting there saying, man, keep talking dirty to me, okay? You won't even know what I'm going to do to your taxes. What are you going to do to my taxes? I'm going to eliminate them. And you won't be paying any of it because of tariff income tax.

[Rob]

Oh, my God.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is so great. I'm getting so excited. It's what it sounded like, right? That's a pretty big promise if you can pull it off. Here's President Trump talking dirty to all taxpayers in America. Go ahead, Rob.

[Rob]

I think we'll substantially be cutting and.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Maybe cutting out completely, but we'll be cutting income tax.

[Rob]

Could be almost completely cutting it, because.

[Patrick Bet-David]

The money we're taking in is going.

[Rob]

To be so large, and yet other.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Countries who have been ripping us off.

[Rob]

For many, many years, and many years they've just been ripping us to shreds.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, so, Tom, what are the chances that we're getting rid of income taxes?

[Rob]

Zero. The federal government establishment will never allow that knob to be removed. That knob on their dashboard is precious. Now, do I believe that Trump has a vision to do it? Absolutely. Am I aligned with that vision? And I hope that this can come true. Absolutely. But I'll tell you, it's going to be tough to get there. And the analysis early on that says it'll reduce the deficit by 2.8 trillion. Deficit is different from debt. As long as we have a deficit, we're making more debt every year. And so we need to remove deficit to zero. So we have something of a surplus now. We can start paying off debt. And I don't think that the establishment would let it go away. Now can the tariffs get so high that he can put in a massive tax cut that says, hey, look, this is now being replaced by this. So I'm going to take the weight off the American people and I'm going to really reduce income taxes? Yep. I think. Could that come in two years? I believe it definitely could. It'll be a fight. And the midterms have to go well. But if the midterms go at least well enough to keep enough of the House and the, and the tariffs show that they're generating that, then on the second half, the lame duck part of his presidency, as they call it, you know, 28, 26 to 28, you know what, could he radically cut income taxes? Absolutely he could. Remember once upon a time the country was run on tariffs. Once upon a time, that's where we got it. And the income.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And not a long time ago, by the way. 110 years ago.

[Rob]

That's correct.

[Patrick Bet-David]

We're not talking about 200 years ago, in the 1700s or 1800s.

[Rob]

Yeah. I believe that the total income tax emergence was the four years after World War I. I believe it's like 16, 19, you know, 1916 to 1920, I believe, is when the emergence of it was the modern tax. So. And by the way, that was when the charities were created because they, they wanted to find ways to get Carnegie and others to invest into things like hospitals and schools and stuff. So they created the tax deduction, you know, moments after the tax we created, the tax deduction was created. But that's my two cents, I think. Could we see it come down? Yes, we could, but I don't think the establishment in Washington should, you know, would let it happen. Look how much they fight. The balanced budget amendment. The balanced budget amendment that simply says the states have to balance their budgets, so does the federal government. They don't want that because they are perfectly content to debt us into the future.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, CBO estimates that before counting for economic side effects, the new tariffs will reduce primary deficits by 2 1/2 trillion dollars and cut interest payments by another $500 billion for total deficit reduction, $3 trillion. After factoring in modest economic drag, slightly lower GDP and temporarily higher inflation, the net deficit reduction is pegged at $2.8 trillion. Adam, your thoughts on this?

[Adam]

So this is part of a bigger story that has basically pervasive in America today. And it's this whole concept about affordability. So if you've heard this buzzword that keeps popping up. Affordability, affordability, affordability. This used to be called it's the economy stupid. Now it's affordability, stupid. So the cost of living has skyrocketed in America over the last decade. This is what happens when you print trillions of dollars. Quantitative easing, as they call it, or quantitative tightening in some respects. But we're living in the greatest country ever created, the greatest country in the world. But for a lot of people, it doesn't feel that way because they can't afford anything. That's why a lot of young people are frustrated, like buying a house, like, dream on, buddy, it's not going to happen. Right now. Getting a new car is as expensive as rent was five, 10 years ago. Food, eggs, prices are crazy. Health care. Now they're supporting Luigi Magione because he's anti insurance conglomerates, all that. So if you can fix affordability in America, you can fix America. You know, the whole American dream is the land of opportunity. Land to be where you want to be, land to do what you want to do. It doesn't feel like that for a lot of people because they can't afford those things. So in my opinion, this is all sort of downstream of Trump trying to make, quote, unquote, America affordable again. That's what's needed. The most ironic part is that the least affordable cities in America are all big blue cities. New York City, this is why they elected Mamdani. As if he's going to solve it. Not going to happen. Louisiana. San Francisco, Boston, D.C. all these big blue cities are completely unaffordable. So this is why don't be shocked when you hear this term affordability come up over and over and over again. Because that's what Trump is focused on, number one issue in America.

[Patrick Bet-David]

All right, so I want to go to this next story. The next story I want to get to is this British broadcaster, okay, is having this conversation. This guy named Ben Leo, who I didn't learn about till this weekend. He does a great job. He's talking to a pro trans gp. And while they're going back and forth, Ben is talking about what happened with his oldest son and I want you to watch this exchange. Remember this has happened in where, Rob, this is in Britain, right? Gp, Great Britain, uk. So he is not necessarily the safest to be able to speak like this. Cuz it's pretty controversial there. It's very different than America and UK right now. But watch how he handles this whole thing. Go ahead, Rob.

[Rob]

Two year old son came up to.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Me the other day, I went back home to the UK and he said.

[Rob]

Daddy, I'm going to have a baby.

[Vinny]

I said, zak, you can't have a.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Baby because you're a boy, you're a man, you can't have babies. And he said, well, I'm going to be a girl.

[Rob]

I want to be a girl. What would you have said to him.

[Patrick Bet-David]

If you were me?

[Rob]

Well, I wouldn't have said, zach, you're a boy and boys can't have babies because that's absolutely not true. So I mean, my. I don't know what your parenting is like.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You don't think boy.

[Rob]

You think boys can have babies? You mean males? Yes. Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You think males.

[Vinny]

Sorry, you think males can have babies?

[Rob]

Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Right.

[Rob]

I mean, Joy.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Right?

[Rob]

Yes.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Right.

[Rob]

Transgender males have a womb, a uterus and ovaries. Okay. So they were, they were born, if you like, female. And they are, but they actually identify as male, so we refer to them as males. They have ovaries, a womb, a uterus, a vagina.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And that means you transgender males being women.

[Rob]

Well, that's extremely disrespectful to transgender males.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, they are women, aren't they? They're biological women.

[Rob]

They are males.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, if they're males, what do you.

[Rob]

Mean by biological women? Well, hang on a minute. If they're males, why do you call them transgender males?

[Vinny]

Why put transgender in the.

[Rob]

Transgender is an adjective. Well, but if they just call them.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Males, then why do you call transgender males?

[Rob]

No problem at all.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So you're changing that now?

[Rob]

No, I'm not changing that. You said you can males have babies. And I said, yes, males can have babies. All over your website, you refer to transgender women.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Transgender males. If these people are genuinely male and.

[Rob]

Female, why do you call them transgender? Well, why do you use adjectives for anything? If you're, if you're clarifying, if you're teaching somebody like I'm teaching you now, you need to clarify. So instead of.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So this is interesting. So instead of telling my 2 year.

[Rob]

Old son, as I did, Zach, you.

[Vinny]

Can'T have kids, you're a boy.

[Rob]

I think that's sad. I do. I think you know, if you're. If my son.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Do you know what it did? Do you know it did? He said, oh, okay, Daddy, that's fine.

[Rob]

And the next day he said, daddy, I'm Spider Man.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Would you want me to entertain that conversation?

[Rob]

Say, well, Zach, maybe you are saying, oh, God, no, not spider Man. Oh, God, Zack, you can't be a girl. God, Zack, you can't be spider Man. Or can't we just let children explore? She is amazing. Age to explore. Why aren't we letting our children keep.

[Adam]

This woman away from any child?

[Rob]

Sorry for Zach right now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, well, sorry. Okay, well, I don't.

[Vinny]

Because Zach has never mentioned something.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So watch this. Can you pause and let's just go through comment section and let's see what the world thinks about this. Right? Go a little bit low. How is this even a real conversation? Young children, toddlers, need a secure, stable foundation of identity before they can even begin to understand a broader spectrum of gender or sexuality. Any other conversation is just too far complex. Daddy, I want to jump off a cliff. Sure, Zach, go ahead and explore whatever you want to be free. More of Zach's dad, please, Lord. Thank you. Bravo for young and smart Ben. She says, I don't know what your parenting style is. As if she isn't 65 years old and didn't grow up with traditional values. While Western is busy having those debates, China is inventing 7G.

[Rob]

No kidding.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Zach's dad here is doing his best to guide Zach one way, but Zach would still mix up with kids with parents like this lady. This lady really needs serious help. I feel sorry for you. Not Zach. Ben Leo. Round of applause. Go a little bit lower. Is that it?

[Adam]

That's his name.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Ben Leo. Yeah, Ben Leo.

[Adam]

So anyways, and what's her name, by the way? Let's give her a shout out.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go up. Go up a little bit. Go to her count. Just to see Dr. Helen. I went to her account yesterday. Dr. Helen?

[Vinny]

Yeah, of course she is.

[Adam]

By the way, she married, kids, family, what's her story? Is she trans?

[Rob]

She's married to Mike Weberly.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Do they have kids?

[Adam]

But while we're.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is she a man or she a guy? Is she like.

[Vinny]

Well, who knows?

[Adam]

It doesn't matter. It's just an adjective.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, no, she.

[Rob]

We.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't know. Was she born a man or a woman?

[Adam]

We don't know, Pat. And it doesn't matter. She's a pioneer.

[Vinny]

She's. What is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

What is it judging? I'm just saying pretty big. So you know what?

[Vinny]

I'm saying, First Man.

[Adam]

What are those things on her chest?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, now those are $7,000.

[Adam]

Doesn't even matter.

[Rob]

That's right. Those are seven.

[Vinny]

In the field of hormone therapy. Oh, no. What? Guys, her business is giving drugs to underage.

[Adam]

Oh, so she makes money therapy and transgender health care.

[Vinny]

When I say this. Interesting.

[Adam]

So follow the money on Helen.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Rob, go to more about Helen. Go More about Helen.

[Adam]

She's going to Helen, I'll tell you that much.

[Patrick Bet-David]

First man landed on the moon and Helen Peters became screaming into the world. What does that mean?

[Adam]

That's when she was born.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Oh, my God. Like, be more dramatic.

[Vinny]

She came out of a birthing canal. She doesn't want to call it.

[Patrick Bet-David]

A lot of fights and a lot of shouting. Okay.

[Adam]

I wonder where she was born or a woman.

[Patrick Bet-David]

She loved me and I loved her parents. Got divorced. I was heartbroken. You will never see your father again. I can see his face through the car.

[Vinny]

Where did she fall and hit her?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Married the lodger.

[Vinny]

Where did she hit her head?

[Patrick Bet-David]

My father. And moved into the top floor spare room. But then he moved out with my mom. My new baby sister was born. I held her. I loved her. You have to call Mom, Daddy, baby sister.

[Adam]

Why would she.

[Patrick Bet-David]

He wasn't my misgender her. I went to a very tough comprehensive school. I didn't fit in. I was okay. My mother was born in a little nightmare. I cannot believe something.

[Adam]

So she's going down this year by.

[Rob]

Year of her life.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Well, she just wants.

[Adam]

Can we just see when she absolutely broke her brain? At what point?

[Rob]

But by the way, this is a tragedy she's describing. Completely broken home, divorce, abandonment and poor parenting. And so what does she do when she grows up to be a psychologist? To tell everybody else that they're okay and that everything broken is not broken. It's to be accepted. Rather than finding love, stability and structure back in normalcy, she goes here. So you know what hurt people make. Hurt people? Broken people break people.

[Adam]

Great point, Tom.

[Vinny]

What happened, Rob? Yes, her own public statement. She was assigned male at birth and later transitioned. She identifies as a what?

[Adam]

Of course.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I don't know what this means, though.

[Rob]

According to Dr. Weberly in previous interviews, somewhere along the line she confirms that she was born as a male.

[Adam]

No, it makes sense.

[Rob]

A man. And then she transitioned to a woman and then married Mike.

[Vinny]

Are you serious?

[Rob]

This. According to what? Chachi BT in the Internet. So.

[Patrick Bet-David]

So I was. I was right.

[Vinny]

It seems allegedly probably.

[Patrick Bet-David]

I told you because her shoulder. She looked like she was like a fullback.

[Adam]

Linebacker.

[Vinny]

Like Chris Farley.

[Rob]

Dear God, where's my bong?

[Vinny]

Is that a guy? I don't. I can't. I'm so. I. I'm so confused right now.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, well, listen, we all are, by the way.

[Adam]

By the way, all.

[Patrick Bet-David]

All the jokes aside, I don't know. I'm not this. This dude. This guy lived a rough life as a kid growing up, and he wasn't accepted, and he was so confused that he went through it.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

And this is a life now. He lives. You know, when you. When you hear some people, they become who they become, and. And then you learn about him, you realize there's Trauma is a real thing. This morning, I'm driving in the car with my guy, and he was a former Delta 18 Delta guy. I said, so, what do you think about ptsd? And he kind of went through it. I see things. A real thing. He says, well, he says there comes a time when you get out, and he's seen a lot of stuff. You know, he's seen a lot of stuff. Poor Henry had nightmares for two weeks.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You know, so anyways, so he's seen a lot of stuff, and he's telling me about ptsd. He says, there comes a time in life where you realize everyone's moved on and they got their own set of problems, and you got to kind of figure out a way to fix it, or else you're going to pass down that same fears and trauma to the next generation. He's doing that. We had a conversation about Adam's girl. What's his. What's her name? Chelsea Handler, right? Oh, yeah. And you. You hear. You hear Chelsea Handler's story, and you hear the story of her upbringing. You remember her story.

[Vinny]

Her brother.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Her brother said, hey, can't wait to come back and see you, and all this stuff. And then falls down and dies.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

From a cliff. And from that day on, it broke the entire family. Mom and dad couldn't do anything together, and it was a mess. Why do you think she probably doesn't want to get married and have kids? Are you kidding me? The fear of losing people that you love can do a number on you. So as much as we're having a hard time with this guy that we're, you know. You know, what's. Whatever this guy's name is. According to Chad, born a guy and now a girl, and he married a mic, this guy's probably gone through a lot of trauma, and he's thinking this is the right way of passing it now to the next people. But Good for Ben. Hey, we wish Zach nothing but the best. Ben, keep racing Zach. The way you're raising him, he's gonna be a. He's gonna be a stud in the future, the way he's going right now.

[Adam]

Can I say one thing?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Adam]

So the challenges and Rob, I sent you some of the challenges. We can't even agree in America and even in Western world what's true and what's not true. This whole debate of, well, it's my truth, it's my truth. There's something called the truth. Here's the biggest challenge that we're going to do with less than 20% of Americans. Let's extrapolate this. Could agree on basic facts, 18% basic stuff, 80% completely disagree on the policy and facts combined. So we're operating in completely different realities. So this he, she, lady, transgender doctor person, she believes that. She's right. She firmly believes that men can have babies. This is her straight up belief. And you try to tell her otherwise, she looks at you like you're the crazy person. If you tell your baby, two year old boy that he can have. He can't have a kid, she looks at you like you're the insane one. So unless we can get back to just like a normal, sensible conversation around what actual facts are not alternative facts, not truthiness, the truth. And stop playing in this misinformation, disinformation hellhole, how are we ever going to agree again? She's claiming that a two year old boy can someday have a baby, and we're treating that like a normal discussion as if it's an argument worth debate.

[Vinny]

You know what? This ridiculous LGBTQ community, they can't have kids. So you know what? They want your kids. That's how they multiply. If that's a guy, he's not having babies. So you know what? He wants your kids. He wants pets. They want everybody. Rob's kids, because they can't have children. So how do you make the LGBTQ community bigger? Yeah, I want your.

[Adam]

Which one is it?

[Vinny]

You're all gay.

[Adam]

And then they'll take one or two examples of some dude that somehow became a woman and somehow got her uterus, Todd or whatever, and then had a baby. It's like, yo, we can all have babies now. No, dude, I hate to break it to you, there's five dudes in this room right now. None of us are having babies.

[Vinny]

Leave Rob out of it.

[Adam]

And it's not debatable yet. She wants to have that debate. It's so ridiculous.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Okay, got out of your system.

[Adam]

Thank you, sir.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You're good.

[Adam]

Anyway, I'm doing six to nine months, guys.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pick one story. One last story. If you got really fireworks, what's the last story you want to get into? Tom, Adam, Vinnie, pick one last story.

[Adam]

Where are we at here, guys?

[Patrick Bet-David]

I got Marilyn Monroe, James Patterson. I got Erica Kirk. I got CEOs predict massive expansion in Florida. I got UK, 1984. I got.

[Adam]

What happened with Erica Kirk.

[Patrick Bet-David]

That's your story.

[Adam]

Okay, gotcha.

[Patrick Bet-David]

You want me to go to it or no?

[Adam]

Sure. Okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Erica Kirk received $350,000. Is this a rob. Is this a proper person who wrote the story like it's Economic Times.

[Adam]

Economic Times. Okay.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Erica received $350,000 weeks before husband's charter assassination. Bizarre claim surfaces online. Let's see what this is about. Page 22. Let's go here. Okay, so Charlie coast founder, Turning Point Zero, September 2025. Leaving behind his wife Erica, two young children, most devastated and host of devastated fans. And a month after Charlie Kirk was shot dead at Apple Utah Valley, multiple conspiracy theorists surrounding Kirk is doing rounds on social media with no signs of slowing down. The latest theory concerns an alleged money transfer receiving by Erica Kirk, charter Kirk's widow, Currency OTP USA, claiming $350,000 was transferred to an account linked two weeks before Charlie's death. Insinuating that the payments was linked to Kirk's killing. Okay, Adam, thoughts on this story?

[Adam]

Look, it'd be so easy to just jump on the Economic Times and just call them some leftist shell rag accusing Erica Kirk of accepting $350,000 for the murder of her husband. The challenge is though, Economic Times is actually a center right reputable financial outlet. So this is the problem with clickbait and headlines. Erica Kirk receives 350,000 weeks before Charlie Kirk's assassination bizarre claim. And then the article goes on to basically say, listen, this is all part of unfounded conspiracies. No credible reports whatsoever, no quote unquote receipts to be found. Other than this is allegation here. This is the problem here. I don't know if we've been in a situation where the widow of a famous person has been under more scrutiny than Erica Kirk. And some is self inflicted, some is completely unfounded. But imagine being Erica Kirk right now and genuinely, genuinely, genuinely. Let's just use first principles here. Loved her husband, loves her kids, stands for what she says. And then the world attacks her for crying in a different manner than they would like wearing certain outfits that maybe are inappropriate Maybe doing certain things that you know, you don't agree with. And I get that everything could be in question at this point. Everything. But to insinuate something this absurd, that Erica Kirk would do something this salacious, this disgusting for $350,000 as if that's some sort of life changing money. There's no amount of money that I, in my opinion it would take to bring back her husband or to bring back what she all the work they've done. So to me, this is a horrible headline from a reputable news outlet and this is what they deserve. Vinny.

[Vinny]

Well, I didn't do enough. I didn't do any research. I just heard it in passing.

[Adam]

What is this right here though? Sorry? What is this?

[Vinny]

Massive life insurance how much life insurance.

[Adam]

Policy Charlie Kirk have?

[Rob]

Well, this is the content creator that did a deep dive onto this topic.

[Patrick Bet-David]

This is about life insurance?

[Rob]

It is.

[Adam]

Does it say that the amount.

[Rob]

I'm not sure.

[Adam]

I guarantee you it's millions.

[Rob]

An auditor named Brian Ference went through all of TP USA's tax documents and found that in just 2023 a large life insurance policy was taken out on Charlie Kirk. As you can see here, GGLF LLC paid for for a split dollar life insurance policy for the President/CEO of Turning Point USA aka Charlie Kirk. Annual premiums for this policy are massive, $350,000 per year that the death benefit for someone who is 31 years old and a non smoker would be between 20 and 50 million dollars. All of this information is public because TP USA is a registered 501C3 non profit. So you can go ahead and look up this information for yourself. GGLF 2023 LLC is also owned by Charlie Kirk. So why would he have one business paying one of his other businesses for his own life insurance policy? Because it's a common tax strategy for high net worth individuals that comes with massive massive write offs and deductions, making sure that the beneficiary would not have to pay a massive estate tax of up to 40%. Meaning on a $10 million death benefit policy that could trigger a $4 million tax bill. Remember in this case the payout is supposed to be a lot bigger than that. The timing of taking out such a large policy so close to the date he was executed is a 2020 23. This was far past the time that he had nationally broken out and become a huge public figure with TP usa. It could of course be because he got married and had two children and wanted to make sure that they were protected in case anything happened. But that's making an assumption that we know who received this money. Even though this tax information.

[Adam]

This is.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Go ahead.

[Vinny]

My brain, by the way.

[Patrick Bet-David]

No, this is very normal, by the way.

[Adam]

So normal. This is exactly how life insurance works.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Estate planning works.

[Adam]

This is exactly how it works. She's making it seem salacious. You take out a policy, you get as big as a death benefit as you possibly can for the, for the limited amount of premium, whatever you want to pay. How much did she say the, the estimated premium was a year?

[Patrick Bet-David]

Premiums?353.50 is between 20 to 50 million.

[Adam]

For a 30 year old healthy guy. He's 28. When he takes it out, you're talking minimum 25, 50 million policy. This is totally normal. Totally normal. And by the way, if she took it out and you get a date in 2023, I could not find. Okay, so let's say it was January of 2023. That is before the, the CNS period. The suiciding contestability period.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Yeah.

[Adam]

So. Meaning it's, that's two years later. Meaning there's zero, zero illicit activity going on here. This is exactly how life insurance works. Did she call it a key man policy or split dollar, Whatever she called.

[Patrick Bet-David]

It, dude, when I bought for the course, this, this is. And by the way, on the business side, this is very, very normal. When I got $10 million and I raised money the first time, they immediately said we got to get a $10 million key man insurance policy on you. Not because they're trying to kill me, but because if I do something stupid and I die, they get their $10 million back and a company paid for the premium. And today we have a lot of insurance, probably not even enough. I need more insurance on myself if something happens and the family's got to pay estate taxes, any of that stuff, that covers the taxes. So I'm not putting anything here.

[Adam]

Rob, I'm very appreciative that you showed that video. I didn't know that video, by the way. This, it sort of just like proves my point. $350,000. It is nothing. They're talking $50 million of life insurance potentially. This is my whole point is that it's irrelevant.

[Vinny]

Yeah, but they made this 350 story.

[Adam]

People see this, they don't know how life insurance works.

[Patrick Bet-David]

To the average person, the average person, that is like a. Oh my, my God.

[Vinny]

Money. Yeah.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Automatically. We sold 800,000 insurance policies and we saw a bunch of different things and we saw the weird things as well, trust me, we saw the weird things as well. But this is very normal.

[Adam]

It's the financial equivalent of saying, yeah. So every year, yeah, I max out my 401k, I put $23,000 in there, and then every year, it's invested in the S&P 500, and it compounds by 10% year over year. And then at 25 years later, I have a million dollars. Yeah, that's how that works.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Adam]

But if you say it in that tone or in these insinuations, if you.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Put $23,000 a year and 25 years later at 10%, you only have a million dollars, you got robbed.

[Adam]

Thank you, sir.

[Patrick Bet-David]

Is an example we just realized. Also doesn't like math. Okay. All right.

[Adam]

The point is, it's a lot more.

[Patrick Bet-David]

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[Vinny]

Did it get really cold?