Comey Indicted, Trump's Kimmel Lawsuit & Charlie Kirk Assassination Theories | PBD Podcast | Ep. 656

Summary

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Podcast Summary: PBD Podcast Ep. 656

Title: Comey Indicted, Trump's Kimmel Lawsuit & Charlie Kirk Assassination Theories
Date: September 26, 2025
Host: Patrick Bet-David (Pat)
Co-hosts: Tom, Vinnie, Adam

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Overview

This episode of the PBD Podcast dives deep into current headline-grabbing controversies, including the indictment of former FBI Director James Comey, Donald Trump’s threatened lawsuit over Jimmy Kimmel’s return to ABC, and proliferating conspiracy theories surrounding the Charlie Kirk assassination. The hosts, energized by the latest political chaos, alternate between pointed analysis and satirical banter. With a focus on political accountability, media narratives, and America’s cultural divides, the PBD crew explores the stories shaping national conversation in real time.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. James Comey Indicted (11:10–29:00)

• Story Breakdown:

  • The Justice Department seeks to indict former FBI Director James Comey for alleged perjury—specifically for lying to Congress during testimony about the 2016 Russian election interference investigation (11:10–13:02).
  • Trump described Comey as "one of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to," celebrating the news of his indictment (14:21).
  • DOJ decision expected soon; Tom explains intricacies of prosecution deadlines and venue politics, noting the potential for Comey's defense to argue he relayed the best information available at the time (14:44–16:40).

• Significance:

  • The hosts see the indictment as overdue accountability for perceived FBI misconduct during both the Clinton email investigation and the Russia probe.
  • Vinnie: "Finally, finally some accountability...this guy, he's been one of the—keep buying. The FBI’s...credibility has been so damaged. And this was the head of the snake." (16:57)

• Notable Quote:

  • Pat: “When you make a statement like that, you better be right...We have high intelligence, Russia interfered. It’s not even a close call.” (13:06)

• Analysis:

  • The team debates whether broader justice will follow, with some citing direct links to the Clintons and Obama's administration.

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2. Epstein Revelations & DOJ Response (29:54–45:18)

• James O’Keefe Segment:

  • Investigative report claims DOJ insider Glenn Prager confirms Epstein was a CIA asset. Victims were paid off, and no evidence Trump participated in illicit activity, but Bill Clinton allegedly was present during some assaults (30:32–33:49).

• DOJ Pushback:

  • DOJ’s official response tries to discredit Prager, but Tom notes, “His statements should not be considered accurate. That is not the same as saying his statements are not accurate…this is the wordsmithing when your government speaks.” (36:34)

• Debate:

  • The hosts weigh the “ice cold calculus” of justice—should damaging secrets be exposed at the cost of destabilization, or leveraged privately? (39:45–46:56)

• Notable quote:

  • Pat: “There needs to be an example made of a group of people, to put the fear of death upon everybody else.” (44:32)

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3. Trump Sues Jimmy Kimmel & Media Bias (54:28–63:45)

• Event Recap:

  • Jimmy Kimmel’s return to ABC attracted record-breaking viewership (6.26 million). Trump assails ABC, calling Kimmel an unfunny DNC puppet, and threatens legal action over alleged unfair advantage (54:43–55:41).

• Debate on Censorship:

  • Tom cautions against the president attempting to de-platform comedians or late-night hosts: “You have to be really careful about the Oval Office calling for a business decision by the network. There’s a little line there.” (57:37)
  • Joe Rogan segment played in support of free speech for comedians.

• Notable quote:

  • Adam: “Do not make fun of old white men. It is uncalled for. It is disgusting. And Obama needs to do better. And I’m not a fan of either of these guys’ antics.” (83:53)

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4. Gen Z Values & the Fertility Divide (63:52–76:42)

• Study Review:

  • New poll breaks down Gen Z priorities by political affiliation and gender:
    • Gen Z Men (Trump voters): #1 priority is having children.
    • Gen Z Women (Kamala voters): Having children is only #12 (63:52).

• Demography as Destiny:

  • Pat highlights the long-term political ramifications: “Democrats, you are in trouble. Do you know why? Because your base doesn’t want to have kids and Republicans do.” (67:36)
  • A montage from Pat’s Vault Conference celebrates parents with larger families; running joke about selling “condoms with holes.”

• Notable moment:

  • Vinnie: “Women prioritize having abortions over having babies. Think about that for a second.” (74:19)

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5. New York Mayoral Race & Political Realignment (91:43–99:36)

• Update:

  • Deep dive into New York City’s political shakeup:
    • Mamdani holds a 20-point lead, powered by minorities and younger voters.
    • Speculation on Curtis Sliwa’s campaign floundering, Cuomo’s chances, and shifting allegiances among Jewish and Republican voters.
    • Pat and Tom provide context on Sliwa’s Guardian Angels and issues with campaign messaging.

• Notable quote:

  • Pat: “You have to explain to Vinnie why he’s wearing a red beret. That means he has to explain to young voters.” (97:50)

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6. Charlie Kirk Assassination Theories (117:05–131:32)

• Recap:

  • A slew of theories surrounding the assassination, including claims of additional shooters, mishandling of evidence, and eerily predictive connections to the 1998 film “Snake Eyes” (with a character named Charles Kirkland).

• Mistrust of Authorities:

  • Many in the audience and on the podcast express skepticism about the official story and faith in future investigations.

• Notable moment:

  • Vinnie: “If you’re a sane person, Adam, that guy, there’s no way—put yourself in this situation...The moment a bullet hits him in the throat, you stand up and you go, ‘Look at me.’ Give me a freakin’ break.” (127:52)

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7. Other Notable Stories

• SEC Accuses Tai Lopez & Partner of Ponzi Scheme (112:35):

  • Lopez and Alex Mehr accused by the SEC of running a $112M Ponzi scheme disguised as retail brand revivals. Panel discusses presumption of innocence and the long-term nature of building reputation.

• Gavin Newsom’s 2028 "No Election" Claim (101:03–108:12):

  • Newsom’s dire warning (with performative “fear porn”) that there may be no 2028 election if Trump prevails.
  • Pat: “Fear Porn Star Award of the Year: Gavin Newsom. Lifetime achievement.” (104:20)

• Obama’s Comments on Aging Politicians (80:05–88:15):

  • Obama jokes that “80% of the world’s problems involve old men hanging on,” taken by hosts as a shot at Trump, but ironically reflecting on many Democrats.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• Tom: “His statements should not be considered accurate. That is not the same as saying his statements are not accurate. This is the wordsmithing that is happening when your government speaks.” (36:34)

• Pat: “There needs to be such a level of fear...for any man who gets caught doing this. It’s a form of recognition. We’re going to put your picture and publicly make sure everybody knows you did this.” (44:32)

• Pat: “Everything for me is odds‒you hire someone, and you say odds are 60% this guy’s going to be a good hire…Odds are. You don’t say 100%. You just don’t know.” (131:21)

• Vinnie: “I want that camera footage.” (130:27)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• James Comey Indictment: 11:10–29:00
• Epstein/DOJ/O’Keefe Segment: 29:54–45:18
• Kimmel/Trump/Media Bias: 54:28–63:45
• Gen Z Priorities & Fertility Divide: 63:52–76:42
• Charlie Kirk Assassination Theories: 117:05–131:32
• New York Mayor Race: 91:43–99:36
• Tai Lopez/SEC Ponzi Scheme Story: 112:35
• Gavin Newsom Fear Mongering: 101:03–108:12
• Obama Comments on Elders: 80:05–88:15

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Tone, Language, and Style

• Language/Tone: Direct, sometimes irreverent and satirical, with moments of earnest analysis.
• Dynamic: Spirited debate and camaraderie; willing to call out both political sides and push past surface narratives.
• Format: Segments alternate between headline analysis, first-hand experience, and light-hearted (sometimes risqué) banter.

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For listeners who missed the episode: This conversation is as much about the spectacle of American politics as about the substance. The PBD Podcast crew brings their signature blend of real-time news analysis, conspiracy theory breakdowns, and cultural commentary, all seasoned with humor and provocative questions.

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Transcript

[Pat]

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[Vinnie]

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[Pat]

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[Adam]

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[Vinnie]

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[Pat]

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[Tom]

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[Pat]

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[Tom]

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[Vinnie]

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[Adam]

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[Vinnie]

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[Pat]

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[Adam]

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[Tom]

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[Vinnie]

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[Pat]

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[Vinnie]

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[Pat]

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[Adam]

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[Vinnie]

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[Pat]

Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are a one of one.

[Tom]

My son's right.

[Pat]

I don't think I've ever said this before. All right, so gang, there's a study I saw yesterday that I really want to talk about today on the podcast. It showed Gen Z women who voted for Kamala vs Gen Z men who voted for Trump, where having a child was on their top 20 priority list. Let me put it to you this way. You will be shell shocked. Well, maybe some of you guys won't be shocked, but we'll take a look at that here momentarily on that study. It tells you what each side is selling. So if I voted for Kamala, what do I believe in? Do I, do I believe in certain things? And if I voted for Trump, what do I believe in? By the way, the long term ramification on who it helps and hurts. You know, one of the things at the Vault conference which you know we have the clip somewhere. We'll show it to you here momentarily. Rob, if you can get it from Chad. There was a moment at the Vault conference in front of nearly 8,000 people. I said, who here has more than four kids? More than five kids stay standing, more than six kids standing, more than seven kids stand, more than eight kids. And then I had all the parents with eight plus kids come up to recognize them. This is a very, very fundamental leak in the argument of one side that is going to screw them up long term. But that's one of the things we're going to talk about. The other part is this guy named James Comey used to have a job as a director of this thing called FBI that he has been indicted for now. Okay? And that's causing some of his FBI members to quit. And they're just stepping away. They're walking away. And after what happened with Kimmel. Kimmel. Wait to see the number of viewership he got on his first episode back. He threatens lawsuit over ABC resuming Kimmel and his claims about campaign finance law. Talks about, you know, the Forbes story we're going to talk about here. Whoopi Goldberg suggested maybe time to invoke the 22nd amendment. Maybe the 23rd. Who knows what it is? Maybe it's the 25th amendment. You guys see this clip? They don't even know what amendment they're talking about, but they think it's time for Trump to step out. New York City, this Mamdani guy is getting a bigger lead, and there's not many people excited about Eric Adams. So who knows what's going to happen? Then Curtis Lewa is claiming that he was offered money to step out. Who knows what's going on in that New York situation. Megyn Kelly goes out there, talks to students at schools over Charlie Crook's assassination lie at Virginia Tech. Tpusa event. White House unveils these pictures of all the presidents. I hadn't seen this till yesterday, guys. Tom, Vinnie and Adam showed it to me yesterday. It's pictures. All the. All the great presidents, one by one by one. And then it comes to Biden. Biden's picture is by far the best picture. You can tell he was posing solid on that picture there. Newsom is claiming there will not be a 2028 election because he thinks, you know, Trump's going to change America and you won't be able to vote, folks. 2028. Yet he's campaigning every single day to be a president. 2028. Leading with a ton of fear porn. And if you like fear porn, you're going to love Newsom. Newsom may be the greatest fear porn star of all time. You know what I'm saying?

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

You got to realize, like, you know how they give this Vivid Awards every year in Vegas. And this porn guy, you know, this guy named, you know, Chess Rockwell, this other guy named Larry Longhorn. What? All these names that they give away. This is going to be the greatest fear porn star of all time. Gavin Newsom.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

Right. Welcome to the.

[Adam]

I could see Gavin doing actual.

[Pat]

No, we're not going There.

[Vinnie]

But.

[Pat]

You have interest in that? We don't. We don't in our jackets pull out a card of a guy that's illusionist. Welcome to Excalibur, Illusionist. Let me tell you this illusion is. Adam's the only one that's got cards. Well, reading.

[Adam]

Read my last text, tell me what this says.

[Tom]

And it's like.

[Pat]

Lithium.

[Tom]

Thunder down under for your next shares.

[Pat]

Surge 90% as Trump requesting this war between Tom and Adam is real, folks. It's not an act. They really don't like each other. Every time when we leave, our security comes in the middle. Tom leaves this way, Adam leaves this way. If not, it's a fight breaks out every single time.

[Adam]

To be honest, I'm actually the scared one.

[Pat]

I'm the one that hired Tom knows Pocket protector. You see his era, the cauliflower ear on top.

[Adam]

Never seen Tom's ears.

[Pat]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Vinnie]

And you're Jewish, so.

[Pat]

Netflix boss, Top Dem donor Reed Hastings praises Trump. We have to hit this story with Indian politicians really, really upset over Trump's hundred thousand dollar Fiona H1B visa. Charlie Kirk, suspect, trans lover, has vanished. Vanished? Like disappeared? Yeah. Shaken neighbors share fresh fears as new photos show abandoned home. And by the way, some new things that came out with videos and stuff that we're going to go through with you and digging and putting something in a hat and George Zinn just this thing keeps continuing and continuing and continuing. And by the way, maybe they could have covered up John F. Kennedy assassination. Maybe they could have covered up MLK's assassination, but maybe they could have covered up RFK, his assassination. Because there was one thing missing back then in the 60s, you know what it was? Cell phones. This wasn't there. And Today you got 3,500 people going like this. Like you think you're not going to catch what's going on there. Guys, does the place have cameras? Yeah, it's called 3500 Cameras of People that are recording everything. So anyways, I don't know what's going on there. We'll definitely talk about it. You remember the Coldplay where that CEO was hanging out with the HRs? What do you call it?

[Adam]

Yeah, of course.

[Pat]

Director of HR couldn't. Okay, we're hanging out together. Well, guess what? The story gets even more spicier. The. The. The lady who was the HR lady. Her husband was there with his mistress.

[Adam]

Stop it.

[Pat]

You didn't know.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Such a great story.

[Vinnie]

We have a great movie clip.

[Adam]

We dug it up.

[Pat]

Truly a show is what it is. But listen, where was that show?

[Adam]

What city?

[Pat]

Where were you, Adam? Justice Department.

[Adam]

I'll tell you where I was. Not listening to Coldplay.

[Pat]

Yeah, well, hey, don't disagree, Eric Adams. We're going to go through that, okay? Housing 500,000 homes. We're going to talk about that. But what is this story about owners of Radio Shack, Pier 1 Imports and other brands accused by SEC of operating $112 million Ponzi scheme.

[Vinnie]

Whoa.

[Adam]

Is that our friend in that?

[Pat]

I think so. But let, let's. Let's not jump to conclusions. Tai Lopez and Alex. We'll talk about it, but we'll see what's going on there. Fed governor installed by Trump's outlines bold case to slash interest rates. We got that, Ray J. You guys ready for this one? This is Tom's top story. Ray J makes shocking claim he's helping feds build a case against Kim Kardashian and Kris Jenner. I don't know why Tom's interested in it. Whoa. But we have to talk about that.

[Adam]

And Tom watched all the videos of research to find out.

[Pat]

We know who did. We know who here did. I'm not gonna make his name, but he's watching a lot of Kardashian videos. You can't tell me 100% of men haven't seen the Kim Kardashian.

[Vinnie]

I'm like, yeah, you haven't, buddy.

[Pat]

But you have. And it's. I respect it. I mean, he's got a good game. National security, but. Okay, so butt lifts in Miami. Adam. Breast implants. Yep. In Beverly Hills.

[Adam]

Ready for you, Pat.

[Pat]

Plastic surgery by region. They're looking at. What part of the country focuses on butt implants? Breast and then rhinoplasty. We can't. You gotta give shout out to the rhinoplasty folks. Guys, you gotta watch your language when you.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

Because some of the best rhinoplasty folks.

[Adam]

We'Re going to do our research on that.

[Pat]

And then Peter Thiel, everyone's wondering, why does this guy keep talking about Antichrist? Why you want us to think about the Antichrist stuff? What is it? Is it like we got to give our life to Christ even faster? Yeah. I don't know, but there's a bunch of other stories that maybe we'll get into. Obama's trolling a bunch of old men. He's not happy with you guys. Old men.

[Tom]

He's just.

[Pat]

Okay, he's. He's just not happy with all the grumpy old men, according to him. We'll share that. And then a Few other things that we got here as well. On top of that, folks, for her take, if you. Or somebody you know, Rob, just put the link below, if you don't mind. Put the link below if you want to nominate anybody. I got swamped by so many, so many messages. I'll nominate myself. I'll nominate myself. I'll nominate myself. If you have anybody that you recommend. We now have a list of over a hundred ladies that would like to be on her take, and we're excited about it. We're going to build that into a top show for 20, 27, 2028, and very, very excited about that show. And I think it's going to turn to something very special. We had an. We had a very good zoom yesterday talking about what the plans are with the show. What happened? What happened to.

[Tom]

No, what you were talking about.

[Pat]

Oh, okay. So. And so, having said that, for those of you guys that would like to nominate somebody, you can simply go to this form, put their name down. And the biggest thing for us is, guys, this person needs to have influence. You know, some of you guys are putting some. Listen, I've never posted a video on YouTube before. I've never done anything, but I think I would be great. We need folks that have experience doing this. So if there's anybody you like that you want to nominate, put their names there. Or if it's yourself and you're somebody that you have, you've done a lot of content and you want to be part of the show, we'd love to talk to you. We're looking for the host. We're looking for co host. We're looking for co hosts because we're going to have a rotation because a lot of people live in different places. But the person that would be the main host, we need that person to be in South Florida because we want to drive a lot of eyeballs to her take. This was one of the biggest weeks of eyeballs going to her take. And it's a phenomenal, phenomenal concept that we're excited about long term. So, again, Rob, did you put the link in comment section in the description.

[Tom]

And it's also pinned. Yep.

[Pat]

Fantastic. Just go click on a link, nominate anybody you think would be good on that show. We would love to speak with them. Okay, having said that, let's get right into it. All right, so James Comey, you wake up one morning and you read a story. Justice Department seeks to indict former FBI Director James Comey for allegedly lying to Congress. Now, why would he lie to Congress? Vinnie.

[Vinnie]

Huh?

[Pat]

I mean, do you believe he is capable of lying to Congress? Why would he do such a thing? You're talking to Congress. Yeah. You're the Director of FBI. Okay, let me read this. And we got some clips here to show you. I know a lot of you guys are worried about this, so. The Justice Department is seeking to indict Director Comey for perjury as the deadline for bringing charges looms. Fox News has learned the probe into Comey Centers is whether he lied to Congress on September 30, 2020. Testimony about his handling of the investigation to Russian offenders in the 2016 US presidential election, which. Rob, I think that's the clip right there that you have, right? The one that they're claiming if he did or not. Go ahead and play the clip and I'll read the rest.

[Tom]

There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever. The Russians interfered in our election during 2000.

[Pat]

You better be right when you say something like that.

[Tom]

Purpose. They did it with sophistication, they did it with overwhelming technical efforts, and it was an active measures campaign driven from the top of that government. There is no fuzz on that. It is a high confidence judgment of the entire intelligence community.

[Adam]

And.

[Tom]

And the members of this committee have seen the intelligence. It's not a close call that happened. That's about as unfake as you can possibly get.

[Vinnie]

And it's unfair.

[Tom]

It's very, very serious, which is why it's so refreshing to see a bipartisan focus on that. Because this is about America, not about any particular party.

[Pat]

All right?

[Tom]

That's how you make a statement and double down three times.

[Pat]

And you know what's great about that statement? You know when you make a statement like that? What was the date on that, Rob, by the way? That's June of 2017, when he said that. Okay, so that is Trump's been president then for how long? A year and five months. A year and four months at that time?

[Adam]

No, no, no, no.

[Tom]

Four months.

[Pat]

Five, four, five.

[Tom]

Inaugurated January.

[Pat]

That's right, that's right. Five months. Because 26 was the campaign. Yes. So let me continue. Under federal law, prosecutors have five years to bring a charge within a five year mark occurring during Tuesday. The case is being handled by U.S. attorney's Office for Eastern District of Virginia. DOJ officials are close to deciding whether to prosecute the director, Comey for allegedly lying to Congress on September 2020, a source said there's a grand jury underway looking at the matter in Virginia. Decision could come any day. The extent of the potential Charges were unclear as what was which part of his testimony could be subjected to perjury charges. President Donald Trump has criticized Comey for years over his handling of the investigation and other matters. I think they're very dishonest people. I think they're crooked as hell, trump said in July about Comey and CIA Director John Brennan. And maybe they have to pay a price for that. Trump eventually fired Comey in 2017. Is this a new tweet, Rob?

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

Last night, perfect justice in America. One of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to is James Comey, the former corrupt head of the FBI. Today he was indicted by grand jury of two felony counts for various illegal and lawful acts. He has been so bad for our country for so long and is now at the beginning of being held responsible for his crimes against our nation. Make America great again. Tom, your thoughts on the story here?

[Tom]

Well, there's a couple things here. First of all, they're coming up on the deadline, but it shows you that below the surface they were investigating this. So, Vinnie, a lot of times we were concerned and even Adam, we were talking about this, about we were concerned. Are they doing anything? Is Cash doing anything? We haven't heard about this. We haven't heard about that. Well, it turns out that, you know, below the surface there is stuff going on which is good. And they had a grand jury. Now the question is, do they have to rush it because they're get it. Oh, they have to rush the Russia thing because they're coming up on a deadline. But a grand jury is a special panel. So if the grand jury says, yeah, I think we've seen enough, then it really doesn't matter about the deadline. And if it's coincidentally the five year deadline means a grand jury has come to the end of it and said there's enough here. Two things we're gonna watch out for. Which jurisdiction will the case be in? And now we've got Virginia, which is kind of a wince. Eastern district of Virginia is a liberal jurisdiction. And then what judge will be on the case? Because who appoints all, most all of these judges in these areas, Presidents. So who appointed this judge? Now, we know that judges do lean politically a lot. So that's going to be the question. The third item is when you step back on this, some legal scholars. Last night while I was, I was reading and they were like, it's basically he is the leader of the FBI and so his argument will be that was the best information I had at the moment from my entire organization including multiple people. And I presented that to Congress. I was telling the truth about the information I had. So he's going to hide behind that a little bit. And that's how it might play out. But that's what I think. I. By the way, this is what Trump wanted. This is what I wanted to see. This is what a lot of people wanted to see. And I hope we can get through the fog of this and get to a real trial.

[Vinnie]

Tom, I agree with you 100%. And listen, and I'm going to be honest, I remember how our attitude was, like, hurry up, nothing's happening. I don't have it. You said, have some hope, have some faith. I had to start practicing that for real. And this is this. Last night was one of the happiest. I was like, finally. Now the dominoes, Tom, this is the first one.

[Pat]

One of these.

[Vinnie]

Give me that, Pat. Like, it's fine. Finally, finally some accountability. And like you said, let's see if it goes to, like, once it goes to trial and he gets behind bars. Because this guy, he's been one of the. Keep buying. Excuse me. The FBI's. What's it called, Tom?

[Pat]

They're emotional.

[Vinnie]

No, no. Yeah, sorry. Their credibility has been so damaged. And this was the freaking head of the snake with. Thank you, Pat. I want to just get that out of there. But if you guys think about it, outside of all the crap that he did against Trump, do you remember what he did with the Clintons? How he was shielding Hillary for all those years? Tommy, in 2016, when he softened the language, when Hillary was doing all the email scandal and all her things that she was blatantly guilty for, he changed with. I think it was Loretta lynch wiping the server. Yeah, wiping the server with a bleach bit. They said that she, James Comey with Loretta lynch, changed the verbiage of her indictment. Not indictment, but they said they went from grossly negligent, which implies criminality, to extreme carelessness. So they gave her a pass. You remember that? He was involved with that. And he signed off on Russia, collusion and all that stuff. He thought he was untouchable. And now, guys, remember that cryptic message that he put with those little rocks, 8647 that, in my opinion, was like a. Hey, guys, get rid of his ass. Get rid of his ass because this is coming down. And mind you, there's a bunch of clips right? We don't have to show him. He was bragging, bragging about what he did to.

[Pat]

How much you think this accelerated everything. How Much. You think this post of 86, 47 accelerated all of it?

[Vinnie]

I think it played. I think it.

[Pat]

You think it played any role?

[Tom]

Yes, I did.

[Pat]

I think so as well. If you're in the background, you have audacity. We don't want to do anything to. You want to say 86 47. You don't think we know what that means? No problem. Okay, you want to play that game? Boom. You're being indicted.

[Vinnie]

100%. 100%.

[Pat]

No, we don't know what 8647 means. Yeah, nobody knows.

[Vinnie]

Just an innocent bunch of shells stumble. He stumbled, stumbled upon that when he was walking with his wife. And you know what's crazy too? The whole family is having a lot of stuff going on. His daughter Maureen Comey was fired with the whole Epstein situation. And then his son in law who prosecuted all the January 6ers, which I know we're going to get into that too. He resigned his position as Assistant U.S. attorney after the. After his father in law. That's the letter right there. To uphold my oath to my father in law, get rid of constitution and country. I hereby resign as the Assistant United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, the Department of Justice, effective immediately. Good. The trash is taking out itself. I'm so freaking happy that they're starting to do it. But guess what? I want the other ones. The Hillary's, the Obama, I want all of them to go. Tom, Tom. So inside the FBI, who flips?

[Tom]

Ah, great question. I think, you know what, you only need one or two people inside the FBI to have actually a conscience about this.

[Pat]

Weird.

[Tom]

And a flip. And now you've got a new administration and you've got Cash Patel there. I believe that they probably are already have some names and they have some people that are going to be like, hey, you know, there's been things coming out in the last few days, some of which Trump will want to hear, some of which he won't want to hear. You know, somebody on Epstein is not something he wants to hear. And then this. I think we're going to see some people flip inside the FBI.

[Pat]

Let me tell you. Rob ran a poll and our audience is generally fair. Yeah. When they vote for certain things, some of the things they're going to be like, no, they disagree with us. Right. Ran a poll, 4,000 people have voted. Is James Comey guilty? What do you think the percentage is? Don't pull it up.

[Vinnie]

92%.

[Adam]

Not going to be pretty for Comey.

[Pat]

92 is high. What do you think it is.

[Tom]

I'll go 85.

[Adam]

Can you go higher than 100?

[Pat]

Okay, so you guys are good. It's 95. Open it up.

[Tom]

For some reason, it's not loading.

[Adam]

Of course.

[Pat]

Yes. He's guilty.

[Vinnie]

Good God. Good.

[Pat]

5%. He's not. To the 5% that they say they're not. We thank you for joining this podcast. We'd love to meet you.

[Vinnie]

We love you guys.

[Pat]

5%.

[Vinnie]

Can I say one thing before we go to Adam? Like, what can we do, guys? What can you do? Tom? I know it's almost impossible, but the bias that we saw from him. Openly. Openly Trump hater him. The openly.

[Pat]

What can you do?

[Vinnie]

What can we do to stop meaning? Can we do it to where you guys can't vote? If you have voted. I'm sorry, you can't because you are internally like, dude, Andy McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page. If you saw the. Because I was. I was that guy Pat. I was sat there and watched all. Everything that had to do with Trump and Russia and everything. These people were blatantly messaging each other saying, we need an insurance policy. He's not going to be the president. It'd be the worst thing. And when he was messaging Lisa Page, this is like, just rough. He was like, no, no, we're going to stop him. We're going to stop the president. And it's like, what kind of insanity, like, we. That this is.

[Pat]

If you're saying, what can you do?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, what can we do to not let this happen again?

[Pat]

Every 90 days when we ran the insurance company, we would publicly terminate a few agents that were doing wrongdoings. Good. To make a statement to everybody.

[Vinnie]

Okay, good.

[Pat]

Hey, no forgery. None of this. You're out this person. And we would say the names.

[Vinnie]

Oh, beautiful.

[Pat]

Okay. And then it went from having to do it every 90 days to. To having doing it every six months to having to do it once a year. But no matter how much you do it, people still think they can get away with it. Right. We just had a lawsuit for a couple of our guys for $6.2 million. They thought they could get away with it, and they're still doing it. And one of them was served, and the other one wasn't served, and the other one that wasn't served. The lawyer said, just write an article in the local paper to let their names know, because that's where you're going to be able to serve them. But even though you do that, even there's another guy behind them that did something that we have so you can, no matter what you do to teach people to not do stupid things, there's always somebody around the corner that thinks they're smart, that they're not going to get caught. Okay. And they're. No one's going to find out about what I did. You know, almost like the, you know, what do you call it? Like, who. Who is that? The movie Homeless.

[Adam]

Home Alone.

[Pat]

Home Alone, Right. What's it called? Guys. The two guys.

[Adam]

Wet Bandits.

[Pat]

The Wet Bandits, Right. Like, stuff. Stuff like that. Like, you think they can get away with it, right? And then you're like, wait a minute, what are you talking about? You just took these guys for $104,000, then they come back and get you. So these types of things happen. However, however, Adam, I want to go to you, then I want to come to James o', Keefe, send a clip about what happened with a guy that he talked to, which is absolutely. So I think the transition is perfect into that. Go ahead.

[Adam]

Well, you talked about James Comey and the whole 8647 thing. We didn't hear for James Comey forever. And all of a sudden he has the 8647 thing as he's promoting his book. Here's what Elon Musk had to say about Fafo, Mr. Comey. So he's going to listen. James Comey is going to have his day in court. We're going to find out if he's guilty or not. But I'm going to rush to judgment on one thing. So gaslighting the public, this is something that we're going to need to address. This whole Russia hoax. James Comey, you're going to have to owe me and millions of Americans at the very least an apology. Because I remember watching that thing in 2017 and being like, oh, my God, they got Trump with Russia. He said the following words. We have high intelligence that Russia interfered with the election. It's not even a close call. He said, there is no fuzz on this. And now, 10 years later, it may be a fact that it's all just been fabricated. How many people have felt for the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax? I did. How many people still have tds, Trump Derangement Syndrome, and they're, it's. Their brain is hemorrhaging because they see Trump and they freak out because of people like this, Whether it's the media, whether it's the intelligence community, whether it's universities, whatever it is, we got to have some accountability here because our country is reeling right now, and it's the people that we depend on, the intelligence community.

[Vinnie]

Thank you.

[Adam]

To basically give some credibility here. And they've gaslit us to think that Trump is a Russian.

[Pat]

Do you have this picture because. Because Mr. Comey is waiting to jump on a podcast because it looks like he's live.

[Vinnie]

He's on the zoom.

[Tom]

No, this is his video response last night.

[Pat]

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[Tom]

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[Vinnie]

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[Pat]

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[Vinnie]

This is not Play Play. We're spending millions of dollars.

[Tom]

I'm so excited to embark on this.

[Pat]

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[Tom]

Family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way.

[Vinnie]

Oh, really?

[Tom]

We will not live on our knees. And you shouldn't either.

[Adam]

Somebody that I love dearly.

[Vinnie]

What is on your knees? No.

[Pat]

Pat.

[Adam]

No.

[Pat]

Praying.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

What's he talking about?

[Vinnie]

I don't know.

[Tom]

Didn't Lewinsky say the same thing?

[Pat]

No. No. But what is he talking about?

[Adam]

Go ahead.

[Tom]

I believe he's referencing bending the knee as if he's bending down to a dictator.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. Oh, like it's innuendo. Innuendo. Like, like.

[Tom]

So he's refusing to bend down to a dictator.

[Adam]

Bend the knee.

[Vinnie]

Not like that.

[Pat]

In the window. Like the euthanasia. Yeah.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

A lot of you focus on the euthanasia. Euthanasia. I tell you this. I have a hard time with these types. And when they say stuff like this, Start from the beginning.

[Tom]

My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way. We will not live on our knees. And you shouldn't either.

[Adam]

Somebody that I love dearly recently said.

[Tom]

That fear is the tool of a tyrant. And she's right. But I'm not afraid. And I hope you're not either.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Tom]

I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does.

[Vinnie]

They better raise the roof from the jail cell.

[Tom]

My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Tom]

So let's have a trial.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

But let's keep the faith.

[Pat]

Let's have a.

[Vinnie]

Can I say one thing? No. But notice this. Notice how he's making. Nobody's kicking down his door. There's no cnn. There's no cameras. It's all nice and polite. And mind you, Pat, this is the same FBI that just admitted yesterday that they had 275 plainclothes agents walking around in January 6th. Really? What were you guys doing? And other ones actually said, like, listen, we didn't start anything, but we were. Some of us were aggressive and pushing it. Look at that. What were 275 agents doing January 6th? Because there's videos of them that look like feds with a mass pack breaking windows, breaking. It's like nothing. Everything that we said was. We were right.

[Tom]

You were so right, Vinny. And by the way, I'll just add one thing to you. Remember, you were always suspicious about the 40 khaki guys that would all wear the same khakis. And then. And the masks and the flags, and they walked down the thing and, like, saying angry things.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Tom]

Guess what?

[Vinnie]

Look, Tom, look at this. Like, they brought the protester. Look. Give me some dap, Agent. Thank you, bro. I did my job. What? What? Unbelievable. This is the same FBI guys. They've been corrupt forever. And what is this video? This is in January 6th. Adam. They grabbed the guy. That's a protester. Protester. And then they hang. Look at it. Look at how nice they're treating this guy. Why would you let him go? Why would you let him go?

[Tom]

Because he's one of them.

[Vinnie]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Tom]

They were acting.

[Vinnie]

What's that saying? The chickens have come home to roost. How many times. You know. You know, people say. I don't like to say I told you so. I actually do because we told you so, period. Told you so. I do.

[Tom]

We're have a new podcast called I told you so. First we have Covid, then we have Fauci. Then we have.

[Pat]

Oh, my God.

[Vinnie]

So why don't we do this?

[Pat]

Why don't we do this when we go to that and. And see about this next situation with James.

[Adam]

James o'.

[Tom]

Keefe.

[Pat]

James o'. Keefe.

[Adam]

Shout out to James o'.

[Pat]

Keefe. Man, these guys, the way they do things, let me tell you, he is. They're very good at what they do, how they get these dates and whatever places they focus on. They're phenomenal at what they do. So here's Glenn Prager, no relation to Dennis, but Glenn Prager, Jeffrey Epstein's investigator, Department of justice, is being interviewed on September 8, asked questions, and you have to see what he says about Clinton, Epstein and Trump. Listen to this, folks.

[Tom]

That he was a CIA.

[Pat]

He was a CIA. He wasn't a CIA.

[Tom]

I think he's protecting a lot of other people. He's not protecting himself because there's nothing there, but he's protecting a lot of people because Trump's now saying it's a hoax. The case is like a hoax or something. I'm like, come on, you know, it's not a hoax. He's been on the plane many times. It's just. Who's never on the plane with the kids?

[Vinnie]

Bingo.

[Tom]

I've seen the itineraries and I've interviewed all the victims. There's never been an instance where Trump.

[Vinnie]

Was on a plane with these kids and their rape occurred. But that can't be said for Clinton.

[Tom]

Wow.

[Vinnie]

It can't be said for others.

[Tom]

Wow.

[Vinnie]

Clinton was on the plane. Wow.

[Tom]

Overheard at Phoenix Airport on September 8, 2025. A senior Justice Department in investigator who personally worked on the Epstein case tells all. Glenn Prager, who has reviewed Epstein itineraries and has interviewed Epstein's victims, drops a bombshell. He says that the DOJ did not want to go after Epstein because he's a CIA asset. That the evidence from his investigation confirms that Bill Clinton was present for alleged rapes on the Lolita Express and that President Trump was not present for the rapes that Glenn Prager investigated, but that he is protecting a lot of other people that were.

[Pat]

How about this whole.

[Vinnie]

This whole Epstein thing?

[Tom]

That's like, I work on that case. I used to interview all the victims.

[Vinnie]

Victims.

[Tom]

And my picture was 20 to 30.

[Pat]

Victims in Palm beach that I was.

[Tom]

Interviewing and dealing with. And then we go ready to go to trial.

[Vinnie]

They would flip.

[Tom]

They would flip. Epstein would just pay them off. And they were just like these little kids. They pay off their family. They're all broke kids.

[Vinnie]

Broke kids, broke families.

[Tom]

So you pay them off anywhere from 150 to $500,000. Nothing in that guy's field. Prager there describes how the victims that he interviewed were paid off by Epstein right before going to trial. Prager has worked as an investigator inside.

[Pat]

The Department of Justice 21 years.

[Tom]

According to Prager's LinkedIn about Page, it says that during the tenure at DOJ, Prager served as an inspector overseeing sensitive investigations.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, he's legit.

[Tom]

DOJ, legit.

[Pat]

Including the FBI, DEA, Bureau of Prisons.

[Tom]

U.S. marshal Service, ATF, and the U.S. attorney's offices. This seems to corroborate what Prager told us. He was tasked with interviewing Epstein's rape victims and investigating flight logs. On his backpack in the airport, we spotted an embroidered FBI patch which caught the attention of our citizen journalist. I'll tell you this because, no, no, it's not talked about yet, but I've seen come out that he was a CIA.

[Pat]

He was a CIA.

[Tom]

He wasn't a CIA. Although many have suspected it to be the case, this is the first time a Department of justice official has confirmed that Epstein worked for the CIA and is a foreign asset. Foreign asset was settling a case and they were just letting him, you know, do house arrests and do minimize his arrest. Part of that is because all the victims kept on flipping and they didn't have anyone to go to trial with.

[Vinnie]

More importantly, go after him. He's a, you know, asset and Israel for the CIA. Wow.

[Pat]

CIA.

[Vinnie]

So that's intelligence. When they said. When they said. When Alice Acosta said, we can't touch him because he works for intelligence. If this guy's telling the truth, why Israel? Why would he. Well, I mean, you know what they're going to say. I'm going to play devil's advocate. He's. There's a beautiful girl. I don't know what she looks like. And he's just trying to show off, but with that type of in depth, that type of stuff, because guess what, you can fact check. You can find out what he's been doing. Go look back. Did he talk to all these girls? If that's. If that's true, and he's saying this, that this has to be admissible. Like, what are you. What are you talking about, bro? And he's saying that Bill Clinton allegedly was on there when there was rapes. Rapes, not sexual, just having sex on the plane. Rapes, meaning people were against their will and these girls were screaming and fighting. That's what this guy is freaking saying. So there you go.

[Tom]

More simple than they are complicated. And if it is as simple as Epstein was an informant in intelligence, that explains the sweetheart deal. That explains why nobody did anything. And that explains why there were frames missing in the zap ruder film at the moment of the. I mean, excuse me, the jail film. Same thing. Yeah, same thing.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. And Rob, you have the DOJ a statement? Yeah, they made a statement.

[Adam]

No, here's what James o' Keefe texted me. Because I was like. Because he's like, please play this. We said, all right, let's talk to Pat. Rob, I sent you an image of what James o' Keefe sent me. Do you have that yet? Yep.

[Vinnie]

Give me one second, cuz. By the d. What do you want?

[Adam]

What do you think will happen? So this is pero. Keith.

[Pat]

Did he say you can share this? Close this, Rob.

[Adam]

Yeah, yeah. This was their statement.

[Vinnie]

No, this. This is the do. This is the department. You can go to the official DOJ statement if you want.

[Adam]

You copy and paste the statement.

[Pat]

Perfect. That's all I got. Go ahead.

[Adam]

So this is the first part is the statement. This individual worked at the Department of Justice as a program analyst for over 50 over 15 years ago. He has no understanding or access to the underlying facts in this investigation. His statement should not be considered accurate. It is disgusting that someone would further exploit victims of sexual abuse by fabricating stories for their personal benefit. So this was the Department of Justice's statement, to which these are facts that our friend O' Keefe had to say. During his tenure at the DOJ, Mr. Prager served as the inspector overseeing sensitive investigations involving major DOJ components, including the FBI, DEA, Bureau of Prisons, U. S. Marshal Service, ATF and the U.S. so meaning? So who's this guy has some credibility. Whereas the DOJ saying he has no credibility.

[Tom]

Thank you for the fine. May I take a stranger a sentence?

[Pat]

Adam?

[Tom]

Grapevine. Here, watch this. His statements should not be considered accurate. That is not the same as saying his statements are not accurate. This is the word smithing that is happening when your government speaks. Folks, you got to get into the parsing. His statements should not be considered accurate. They're not telling you it's not accurate. They're saying they shouldn't be considered accurate. Yeah, because he wasn't close enough. And it's terrible that he would further exploit. One third of the statement is a float. Wow, it's a shame that an ex employee would be exploiting something like this. Why don't you come out and say he wasn't on the case? This is not accurate. This is a bold face lie. Thank you very much. Because they can't say, okay, so who is they? The statement from justice, who runs doj?

[Adam]

Well, whoever the Department of Justice, Pam.

[Vinnie]

Bondi is the highest ranking. Pat, she's number one.

[Pat]

So let me ask you, Tom, Let me ask you, Tom, can. Can a person respond like that without the permission of Pam Bondi?

[Tom]

I wouldn't think so.

[Pat]

Okay, so is that response, what percentage of that response was approved by Pam Bondi?

[Tom]

I gotta agree.

[Pat]

This thing got a.1 million views on that.

[Tom]

There's such.

[Adam]

How many views?

[Pat]

8.1 million views. I'm gonna go 50.

[Tom]

50. That it got all the way to Bondi. That this is. They have an office that responds on this.

[Pat]

What is the likelihood that this goes all the way up? All the way up. Like maybe even talking to Cash, talking to President. What is it like I would say.

[Adam]

With James o' Keefe's credibility, this goes all the way up with high certainty.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Adam]

Not, not 100%.

[Pat]

So for me, but for me, guys, for me, the way I've, I've always seen this thing with Epstein is I've always seen it as. Look, look, look. What, look what the President. How, how ice cold would you say the President is?

[Vinnie]

Pretty ice cold.

[Pat]

Well, give me ice cold. 0,200 in.

[Vinnie]

In the sense of just not giving a damn.

[Pat]

What do you mean? Somebody, guys emotions.

[Vinnie]

Oh, he's. I would say he's up there probably.

[Pat]

What score? Above 90.

[Vinnie]

Above 90.

[Pat]

I give him above 90.

[Vinnie]

Yes. Okay.

[Adam]

He's not the most.

[Pat]

Is he ice cold or is he ice cold? Little less than, Less than Putin. Okay.

[Vinnie]

A little bit for sure.

[Pat]

So let me, let me ask you, in his eyes, okay, Everything that happened with these kids, that happened. Okay. Do you think he's happy about that? No, I don't think he's happy about that. He's a grandfather, he's got kids, he's got all that other stuff. Do you think in his mind he looks at this and says, gates, Clinton, all these guys will be more useful to me if this doesn't leak because I can use them for the next four years and I can hand it over to the next person that's going to be a president for 2028 election. Do you think he sits there and says, okay, honestly, let's have a very ice cold conversation, no emotion. Can we do that to all the people that are all emotion. Step this one out. Just don't, don't listen to this conversation real quick, okay? Play solitary or something, but we'll come back to it. So ice cold conversation and ice cold thinking.

[Vinnie]

I'm Putting myself.

[Pat]

I want you to do ice cold thinking. You're 90 and up for the next two minutes.

[Vinnie]

Okay?

[Pat]

Okay.

[Vinnie]

Got you.

[Pat]

Vinnie.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

This is what happened.

[Vinnie]

Okay? I'm the president.

[Pat]

No, you are not. I'm the President. I'm talking to you. You're one of my guys on my team, okay? That maybe you have a lot of conscience. You're a man of faith, okay. And you're having a hard time with this.

[Vinnie]

Okay?

[Pat]

It happened.

[Vinnie]

Okay? Yeah.

[Pat]

This is exactly what happened. However, question for you.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Pat]

Who's the enemy? The States. Let me tell you what Clinton's did.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Let me tell you what all these guys did. All these things that we have with our investigation, they were part of this. Yes. We have one of two choices. Release this now to the public and they're going to continue to be the enemy to the country. Come back to us. Or we hold them hostage for the rest of their lives. That they can't do anything to destroy this country. We keep that White House with our values and principles for the next 12 years and bring America back and make it the greatest country in the world again. But it's going to require us to hold some of these guys hostage. If you're an ice cold thinker, you got the ice cold hat on. How do you think right now?

[Vinnie]

If I'm ice cold.

[Pat]

Ice cold.

[Vinnie]

If I'm ice cold, that would be a great chess move to keep this, keep this positivity that we have as America going. Great. To keep it going. Oh, if. If I'm ice cold, keep. I'm like, let's do that. Okay, let's do that. We have the kill switch. Basically.

[Pat]

Whatever you say after here. Guess what? It's totally understandable not flipping. Don't be ice cold.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. If it's not. If, if I'm not ice cold, if I'm going to be myself, you know, I would say I. And I've said this statement before. Let justice be done though the heavens fall. We cannot be a nation, a Christian nation, and have it built on sexual blackmail, of raping underage pedophile leaders of these children. Because if that's what we're built on, it's going to fall and it's going to fall hard. But not right now. So I would say to clean house and make everything happen regardless of the consequences. We got to expose them. This is. This is being the. The Vincent o', Sean, the Christian guy.

[Pat]

Now the question becomes.

[Vinnie]

I put them out.

[Pat]

Now the question becomes. Now the question becomes long term. What, what is the Better move long.

[Vinnie]

Term for the cold ice. Obviously it's ice cold. Ice cold is for the America system to keep going.

[Pat]

I am, I am going to tell you something that's going to contradict, predict my own self. Okay. And here's what it is. I think, I think there has to be. Remember how earlier I talked about every three months we used to, you know, terminate one of our agents just to make sure everybody know we're not going to do business like this.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And in many of the cases our lawyers would report, report to the Department of Insurance and they would tell every carrier by you as an agent who you are. So no one's picking up, you're done permanently for 10 years. So I do think there has to be happy medium. If they're watching, this is how I would do it. The happy medium for me would be the following. What is the punishment right now for Rob? What is the punishment right now for a 40 year old man to have sex with a 13 year old girl? Which many of these girls were? 14 year old girl, 13 year old girl. What is the punishment right now?

[Vinnie]

If convicted?

[Pat]

If convicted, what is the punishment?

[Vinnie]

I'm going to say five to 10 years.

[Adam]

Oh, I would hopefully it's way more.

[Pat]

I want to see what it is. I want to see what it is.

[Vinnie]

If convicted five to ten.

[Pat]

Let's see. Because to me there's a couple things you have to do. Is it okay, one it might be saying it's going to be one, it's by states. Okay. States choose federal law, use of Internet to transport child poor. Not coercion. You just contain someone. Okay, but I want to know what is the sex offend? What is it up to?

[Vinnie]

15 years?

[Pat]

Up to 15 years.

[Adam]

40 years.

[Pat]

Rape of a child less than 13 can ring 40 years in prison. In many states statutory rape or sexual jail is not felony. For some counseling years of several decades, I'm supervisor, 13 years old and then the other one's 43 months. Okay.

[Tom]

Yeah.

[Adam]

The average statutory rape is 43 months.

[Pat]

So many is actually accurate to me. What I would do is there has to be such a level of fear. Like if there are some of these men that were doing child trafficking with young girls. 10 years old, 9 years old, 13 years old. There has to be such a massive public fear that is casted on those people to not be like, you know these videos, they go around, catch guys at Walmart and different places and those videos go viral and their careers are over with. I think there needs to be an example made of a Group of people to put the fear of death upon everybody else.

[Vinnie]

I agree.

[Pat]

So you got to do you. If you're gonna go this route and you're gonna hold this content hostage cuz you have control of Bill Clinton and others. Let's just say that's the case. You have to put the fear of death upon everybody on the opposite side. So like, let me think twice about it. Whether it's public, it has to be something where it's public humiliation for any man who gets caught doing this. It's a form of recognition. We're gonna put your picture and publicly make sure everybody knows you did this. Like there needs to be a.

[Adam]

You want to shame them.

[Pat]

Recognition. Do this again, see what happens to you. There has to be. And then on the. Because there's certain things forgiveness is, you know, and then. And then on the flip side, if you're gonna go ice cold on the other guys.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Well, then you better make a lot of progress and show us stuff like this with Comey and stuff to move forward. Because you can't do one without the other. If you choose to do neither, then you lose your base. Not all of them, but you lose 2% of your base. And 2% is a lot. And for 2028, you're gonna need these guys. Because what we are learning right now, you know, is what's important to what is the influence kids are having on elections today. A lot. What is the influence TikTok's having on elections today? We just saw Charlie Kirk's memorial. How many people showed up? 100,000 people showed up. You think that's validating what 2028 election is going to be about and who you need to win over? Those people are on social media and X. So if you don't do anything, they're going to keep talking. Adam.

[Adam]

Well, you just highlighted what I would call the paradox of what is right versus what is wrong. And what is. What should you do about it? Vinay and I had a conversation probably a month ago and I said, if you found out, what do you think is true? And you know, you do the wizard of Oz thing and you see it and it would basically cause the government or the city to burn down. You're going to burn the whole. You said burn the whole thing. I said then you'd be ruling a city of ashes. Is that what we're willing to do? Here's what I would say. Pbd. You talk about the public humiliation. I have a different suggestion. I would almost say private humiliation if it means burning the whole country down. I'm not in favor of that. We're being ice cold for a second. But in private, if you find out these people are guilty, you don't need a public humiliation. You need a private castration. And if this is what these dudes are doing, low key. Don't even. Nobody needs to know.

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[Vinnie]

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[Vinnie]

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[Tom]

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[Vinnie]

Why would you do it secretly?

[Adam]

Because word will travel. Word will travel. You think secrets won't get out? Did you hear what they did to so and so? All these people are going to talking. If it is it, it is cutting your dangling off.

[Vinnie]

Yep.

[Adam]

Oh, or it could be a chemical castration.

[Vinnie]

Whatever it is, I agree.

[Adam]

But if they're doing that to children, I don't need public humiliation. I need you to cut that thing off and everybody's going to find.

[Pat]

Oh, bro.

[Vinnie]

That to me is.

[Adam]

Is. Is a more fitting crime than shaming them.

[Vinnie]

I. No, I agree, but I. The one little caveat. No. Publicly you say this person was convicted. You know, you know, hide the victim. But he's convicted. This is what he did. We're castrating him. Put the world out. Because guys, you have to understand these people. It's not as if you're an alcoholic and you stop drinking and you're kind of over it and you've moved on. You know what I mean? You're not getting this disgusting pedophile out of you every time they see a kid pad that's where they're at. And it needs to nip it in the bud, so to speak.

[Tom]

It's kind of a standoff too, if you think about it. So I agree with the notion that, okay, I gotcha, you know, I gotcha. And now you need to maybe not play ball, but just not be so difficult to work with. I believe that, but I also believe goes the other side that says, look, so you're gonna. So you're gonna basically crush me. Well, on the way down, I'm gonna put some receipts up with a bunch of your guys. So you can't take. You can't. You can't take this chess piece off dirty without me knocking some off. By the way, remember Nixon? Historical documents and everything are now clear. Nixon felt that the election in 1960 was stolen, that Illinois and Texas was stolen. If you flip those back, Nixon wins the election by one electoral vote. Go the other way, Kennedy gets over 300. Okay? Nixon said, I'm not gonna tear down the country for an election. I don't think it's good for the country. And there's multiple people, Republicans and Democrats, that said there is deep respect throughout the political sphere that Nixon didn't do it because they had him. Now, you can find some protests, you can find some courts that protested things because you couldn't stop all the operatives. And some of them were really pissed off. But Nixon himself said this for the good of the country. And W supposedly also remember every. How many presidents have been Talking about the JFK files, every one of them for 20 years. So w also did not think it was good for the country about the JFK files. Now everybody's gonna put in the comments. Yeah, that's because Papa Bush is part of it. I don't know. But there is precedent here, Pat, where they kind of checkmate each other in private. They don't prosecute each other. And it's kind of a Mexican standoff.

[Vinnie]

But can I say one last thing? Pack. And I know we want to move on. If you had to pick one name that's constantly been said about Epstein, I mean, that keeps popping up, that's been on the express that there's photos with him with girls, that is a high.

[Adam]

Ranking Jefferson Bill Clinton.

[Vinnie]

Okay? I don't care how. I don't care who you are and how good he was as a president and how good he was for the African American. Put that aside. His name has been implicated more than. Than Gates, more than any of those other freaking demons.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

All right. How is this guy so Freaking powerful. And like, and hold on, Adam, like how we said with Comey has to fall in this case and I know it never happened. One of them, Pat, I want one of those guys that was connected to Epstein to fall. That's it.

[Pat]

But you know what happens?

[Adam]

It's never gonna happen.

[Vinnie]

All of them come down.

[Pat]

No, no, because you take one, it's like the crap theory. That guy's gonna tell on everybody. That's how that goes. So they can't do one. You do one, that guy's gonna say, oh, yeah. Oh, really? Bill. Hi, William, how are you?

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Oh, you better call Donald. Yeah, yeah, you bet. Hey, that's exactly what happens.

[Adam]

Let me ask you one question. God, what kind of secrets do you think a president of the United States has?

[Pat]

Internally, domestic, globally, internationally, Second term than first term? Okay, more on.

[Adam]

Bill Clinton was a two term president.

[Pat]

He has a lot of them.

[Adam]

Obama was a two term president.

[Pat]

Joe Biden, Trump is. Joe Biden is like, okay, no, but senior. He has a lot of them because he was a director of CIA.

[Adam]

CIA.

[Pat]

He probably has more than most presidents.

[Adam]

So the amount of secrets that a president has and you want to go try to throw a president in jail. I'm just saying they try to do it with Trump, he's going to answer the gu.

[Vinnie]

At some point.

[Adam]

There's a reason that you don't see former presidents going to jail for crimes or crimes against humanity.

[Tom]

They talk to each other.

[Pat]

Yeah, but, but, but listen, Lula went away and Lula came back.

[Adam]

Brazil is the most corrupt countries in the world. It is talking about the United States of America.

[Pat]

I understand that, but let me have a high standard. Do you think in the next. Here's a good question for you. Do you think in the next hundred years a president goes to jail?

[Adam]

In what country?

[Pat]

Us?

[Adam]

No, never.

[Pat]

The next 500 years?

[Adam]

No.

[Pat]

You're saying never.

[Adam]

I'm saying highly likely that they will not go to jail in the United States.

[Pat]

So you think 500 years from now America is still going to be a republic because 200 years, if America falls.

[Adam]

The whole world falls.

[Pat]

I know it does.

[Adam]

I'm convinced of that.

[Pat]

I. But what I'm saying to you is you don't think it'll eventually happen. Your argument makes sense because you do that, it's embarrassing. But at the same time, if somebody crossed the line and it's that big.

[Adam]

What was the whole thing recently that the presidential immunity. It was the whole thing that Trump basically solidified.

[Pat]

Yeah. To protect them. Yeah.

[Adam]

President ain't going To Jeff, by the.

[Pat]

Way, can you show the poll, Rob, that you ran? Actually, I'm proud of the audience here. Can you, can you go pull up the poll here? I'm really, really impressed with the audience, how reasonable they are. So remember earlier the comey thing was what, 95, 5. He just ran a poll right now. He says, do you believe President Trump is covering for Bill Clinton? Look at that. Oh, wow, it's 50. 50.

[Vinnie]

Wow.

[Pat]

50. And that's 7, 8. That's 8,500 votes. 5,248. So our audience to give that kind of an answer after seeing what just happened. You guys are part of the reasonable community and I applaud you. Stay like that, guys. This is good. We have a good audience. If you can stay balanced like this and we're right or wrong, we can go back and forth. I don't mind it. All right, let's go to the next door here. Next story I want to get to is in regards to Jimmy Kimmel. So Jimmy Kimmel comes out, does a show, numbers comes out. Rob, can you pull up and see what the numbers were on, how it performed? I think it was six plus million viewers that he had. I think it's the biggest he's either ever had. But it was a record breaking show. Of the amount of viewers, I want.

[Vinnie]

To say 6.4, I believe.

[Pat]

And by the way, previous to that he was doing 1.2, 1.4, 1.3, 6.26 million. Significantly higher than his average, which is 1.4 to 1.8 million.

[Vinnie]

They should fire him every day and bring him back every day.

[Pat]

Fire him once a week, come back and one day he'll get better viewers than all the days combined. So that happened. Now Trump comes out and threatens lawsuit over ABC for resuming with Kimmel. And you know his claims about this. I can't believe fake ABC News gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back. The White House was told by ABC that his show was canceled. Something happened between then and now because his audience was gone and his talent was never there. Why would they want someone back who does so poorly, who's not funny, who puts the network in jeopardy by playing 99 positive democrat garbage? He is yet another arm of the DNC card. DNC. And to the best of my knowledge, that would be a major legal campaign contribution. I think we're going to test ABC out on this. Let's see how we do. Last time I went after them, they gave me $16 million. This one sounds even more lucrative. A true bunch of losers let Jimmy Kimmel rot in his bad ratings. Okay, yeah, read him rot in his bad ratings. And so that message, you know, to me is, Is a slippery slope. You got to be careful with that. To go to a message like, tom, I'll come to you first. What are your thoughts about this? One, Kimmel went over 6.2 million. Two, President Trump still saying he wants to go after ABC. How do you process those two, Those two things?

[Tom]

You know, I am, I'm a little.

[Vinnie]

A little on the fence.

[Tom]

On the fence on one thing. When you're president and you're going after somebody who was dishonest and bad. And what Kimball did was. But it was one monologue on one night and the advertisers got upset and a lot of other people got upset. So, yeah, I think you kind of let that play out as a business decision. You let it play out. You let the advertisers get upset at Disney, you get Bob Iger show leadership or not show leadership, whichever side of that argument you're on. And then you let it play out. I think it's kind of, it's different, Pat, to say, I so disagree with Jimmy Kimmel and his criticism of this administration. That just pisses me off because he's gaslighting America. That is different from, I want the guy off the air. And when you kind of cross that line a little bit, you're kind of given an open door to the other side on the influence. So do I think that what you said the other day, that if they want to bring things, lower the temperature and do things for late night, then maybe they should bring conservative guests on, bring a blend and that would bring ratings? Yeah, I think that I completely agreed with what you said the other day. You said it very, very well. You laid it out completely. And Erica Kirk, 100% agreement. But I look at this and it's like I agree in principle with the president saying, but I think you have to be really careful about the Oval Office calling for a business decision by the network. You get, there's a little line there.

[Pat]

Vinnie, your thoughts?

[Vinnie]

And I agree with you to a certain extent, Tom, but, and I get to this argument all the time when people put, he's the president, he's not presidential. Okay, let's put that aside. Can you blame this guy? Can we blame Donald J. Trump? And we all know who he is. Ego, this New York. Can you blame him since the day he announced that he was gonna run for president, people like him, every single one of these Democrat left leaning Arms of the dnc. Because, by the way, there's no other explanation to be just hemorrhaging money and viewers and you still keep paying that guy because you need to sell the propaganda. Okay? Hitler, fascist impeachments, Russia, everything. I can't even blame this guy. And it's not like he's hiding it, guys. This is who we voted for. Because I know exactly who he is. Even at Charlie's memorial. What do you say? Charlie, God rest his soul, you know, I love him. He'd be praying for his enemies. I don't. He goes, I don't like them. And I'm not with it. Okay, this is why we got. This is that guy that we're talking about, that ice cold that you were just talking about, pbd. This is him and this is who he is. I get. People are going to be happy with everything that he says. This is a little bit far reaching, but he is furious. These are the guys. These are the type of guys with the rhetoric that these guys, the Jimmy Kimmels, the Colbert, all of them, all of them. Even if it's slight dog whistles, he's the reason that everybody wants to try to go after him and shoot him in the head in Butler, because it's that rhetoric. So I'm not even mad that he's upset with that yet. Asking for him to get off whatever. He could say whatever the hell he wants. He's the president. He needs. You know, they help him write these things anyway, but he gets the, the minor point and they help him write that.

[Adam]

Yeah, well, Trump's love loves picking on enemies. You know, Michael Jordan used to always say, like, you have to kind of make up an enemy in your head. This is a real life enemy for Trump. Jimmy Kimmel is not talented. But I don't think that Trump or the federal government should get involved in trying to censor people. Even Joe Rogan agrees with me. Do you see what Rogan says about that? Rogan said he rushed to the defense of Jimmy Kimmel. He said over the joke that got pulled off the air. It's calling it crazy. He said, first of all, do you have that clip? Yep.

[Pat]

Go ahead. I like how you put it. Let me. Did you say Joe Rogan?

[Adam]

Yeah, Joe consulted with me.

[Pat]

With Joe Rogan?

[Adam]

No, Joe agreed with me. He consults me all the time. Everyone knows that.

[Vinnie]

I love doing Sosnik Roganovich situation that is.

[Tom]

Is happening right now. Yeah.

[Vinnie]

Wild. Very wild.

[Tom]

Okay, first of all, the FCC is.

[Vinnie]

You have to have a license to Broadcast, which is kind of crazy when.

[Tom]

You think about what that means now, because, like, what does it mean?

[Vinnie]

It used to mean that used to have a license to broadcast because you were going to influence so many people, they had to make sure that you were on the up and up, right?

[Tom]

So they had to make sure that you didn't swear.

[Pat]

So.

[Tom]

So if you had a license and you're on CBS or NBC or abc, you could not swear. Right?

[Vinnie]

That was the rule.

[Tom]

And then on came cable. And somehow or another, cable is a different thing, right?

[Vinnie]

Because cable, you just, you, you have.

[Tom]

To pay for it, I guess. So it's different. And so then some of the channels.

[Vinnie]

You don't have to pay for.

[Tom]

It used to be the only ones.

[Vinnie]

That swore were like HBO or you had to pay for.

[Tom]

And then all of a sudden it became kind of any of them because they realize, like, hey, we don't like fx. We can swear, guys. Like, we only don't swear because we want to think of ourselves as tv, right? But HBO was like, you know, with.

[Vinnie]

The Sopranos, with HBO comedy specials in the beginning, that was a big one.

[Tom]

You can just swear.

[Vinnie]

Movies, you didn't have to bleep anything out.

[Tom]

Just wild. And so these, what you're dealing with, with even like, first of all, I definitely don't think that the government should.

[Vinnie]

Be involved ever in dictating what a comedian can or cannot say in a monologue. That's fucking crazy.

[Adam]

Crazy.

[Vinnie]

Now if the, the problem is the.

[Tom]

Companies, if they're being pressured by the.

[Vinnie]

Government, so if that's real, and if people on the right are like, yeah, go get them. Oh, my God, you're crazy.

[Tom]

You're crazy for supporting this because this will be used on you.

[Vinnie]

You don't think that, that the fucking globalist lizard people who run the world are sitting here going, great, what do.

[Tom]

We got, three years?

[Pat]

Wait, you can pause.

[Adam]

Let the. Essentially let the market decide what you're saying. Don't try to basically institute or get involved.

[Pat]

No, my concern is the fact that they're not going to forget this. And when they have, they have the control, trust me, they're going to come back after you. Don't. Don't be too relaxed. When you have it right now, you're like, free, and you can say whatever you want. This thing can change very quickly when somebody else is in the White House. Let AOC be in the White House. See what America looks like.

[Tom]

Oh, well, we're seeing it with Comey. Comey is the other side now. Trump the Mug shot was the first. Now we're seeing round two, and I'm just the same thing.

[Adam]

Pull up that Trump tweet again when he said let Jimmy rot in low ratings. What do you say about that?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, let him.

[Adam]

Let Jimmy. Yeah. And that's actually what he should do because the reality is this. Jimmy's Kimmel, Jimmy Kimmel show was tanking. And there's something in investing called the reversion to the mean, where, like, it's in the. In, in the, like, I'll use the NBA example. Like, you know, there's a guy that averages 10 points a game. All of a sudden he's on fire. He puts up 40. You're like, oh, man. I guess RJ Barrett is an all star. And you're like, nah. Next game he goes for six and four. You're like, okay, he gets back to his average. This whole thing that he got what, 6 million viewers? How many did Jimmy get?

[Vinnie]

6.3. He averages what, 1.4, 1.3.

[Adam]

Check back in two or three weeks when he's reverting to the mean of what, his actual numbers. It's not like people are going to start falling in love with Jimmy Kimmel.

[Vinnie]

Just to clarify, I don't want the government ever. No. I don't want nobody pressuring. He sucks. His ratings suck. He's not funny. Okay, say that. I'm saying the attitude of Trump. Keep your attitude. They're all in his mind, the enemy. If you want people to think that I'm this Hitler Nazi guy, and by the way, you're losing money. So. So here's the thing. How is a show like that in a business, in a business sense going on? Because they have to keep. They're willing to lose money.

[Adam]

What evidence do you have that Trump dislikes his enemies?

[Vinnie]

I actually.

[Pat]

All right, let's do this. Let's go to the next story. Next story.

[Adam]

Hey, my enemies.

[Pat]

Here's what I want to go to. So study came out recently asking Gen Z female voters who voted for Kamala what their top 20 priorities were. And then asking Gen Z male voters who voted for Trump what their top priorities were. As you go lower on this, folks, you're going to be shell shocked. Okay, here's what I want to do before we go to it, Rob, what do you think having children, Vinnie, ranked for Gen Z males who voted for Trump vs. Gen Z women who voted for Kamala having children. What does it rank for Gen Z males?

[Tom]

How do you want to rank it?

[Pat]

Top 20. So number six, number eight, number 12. Number 18.

[Vinnie]

Three. Top three.

[Pat]

Three. Four. Male four. Okay, so both of you guys say three.

[Vinnie]

Three.

[Tom]

Top three.

[Pat]

Tom says three, Vinnie says three. And then Adam, what do you want to say?

[Adam]

You're saying top 10 men who voted.

[Pat]

For Trump, where is their priority of having children in their top 20?

[Adam]

Oh, it's in the top five. Five to eight.

[Pat]

Okay, pick a number, Adam.

[Vinnie]

Five.

[Pat]

Okay, good. Now, women who voted for Kamara having children.

[Vinnie]

I'm not going to put it. Might not even be in the top 20.

[Pat]

It is.

[Vinnie]

Okay.

[Adam]

Okay.

[Vinnie]

I'll say 18.

[Adam]

It's. Yeah, go ahead.

[Tom]

I was gonna. I was gonna hedge a little bit and say 15.

[Vinnie]

Okay.

[Tom]

But we're in the same Adam, lowest quartile.

[Adam]

Yeah. Somewhere. Eleven. Lucky eleven.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Vinnie]

Way off.

[Pat]

Go to it, Rob. So check this out to tell you where they're at.

[Adam]

Top 20.

[Pat]

This is top 20 right there. So this is Gen Z. Male voted for Trump having children.

[Vinnie]

Number one.

[Pat]

Get out of here, dude. Bingo.

[Adam]

They're listening to Charlie Kirk is what they're. You number one.

[Pat]

Yes, number one.

[Adam]

Just so you know, Gen Z is what, under 30.

[Pat]

18 to 29 is what they're asking here. Mainly 18 to 29. So by the way, Gen Z is 13 to 29. 13 to 28. But they don't vote, so they're going 18 to 29. So now look at female voted for Harris. All the way on the left.

[Vinnie]

Ok. All right, here we go.

[Pat]

Female number one there says what?

[Vinnie]

Independent.

[Pat]

Okay, Go all the way down, Rob. No, all you have to do is just go down. No, no, no. You messed it up, Rob. Go back to.

[Vinnie]

Son of a.

[Pat]

Come on, Rob.

[Vinnie]

I'm done. I'm walking off the top.

[Pat]

Don't walk.

[Tom]

There it is.

[Pat]

OK. Having children. Now go down. Ready? Not eight. 11. I'm sorry.

[Vinnie]

12.

[Adam]

12.

[Pat]

I said 11 children is number 12 for them. Okay, now go up, Rob. Go up, Rob. Look at this. Let's look at both of their priorities. Male voted for Trump. Having children, achieving financial independence, having a job or career you find fulfilling. Go a little bit lower. Getting married. Okay, go a little bit lower, Rob.

[Adam]

Having children is more important than getting married.

[Pat]

Having enough money. Rob, a little slower so I can go heavy. Enough money to do the things you want to do, owning your own home, being spiritually grounded, making your family or community proud, having no debt, using your talents and resources to help others, being able to retire early, having emotional stability, fame and influence is number 13. Now go to the other side. Let's go with the women who voted for Kamala. Having a job, having enough money to do what you want to do, have emotional stability, using your talents, resources, achieving financial independence, having no debt, owning your own home, making your family proud, being spiritually grounded, being able to retire early, being married, having children, fame and influence. Let's see what the male who voted for Kamala. Where are they at? Rob, go a little bit higher. That's male who voted for Kamala.

[Vinnie]

Female, bathroom hanging out.

[Pat]

Have enough money, using your talents, resources, having emotional stability. Gentlemen, making a family proud, owning your own home, having notes of being married is 9. So male who voted for Kamala have children at 10, female have at 12. How about women who voted for. Okay, so right there. So Trump, go a little bit lower. So here's what it looks like, folks. Democrats, you are in trouble. Do you know why? Because your base doesn't want to have kids and Republicans do.

[Tom]

There you go.

[Pat]

You know what that means? We're at the vault conference. In the middle of the event, I ask people, stand up. If you got four kids or more, they stand up. Stand up. If you got five kids or more, they stand up. Stand up. If you guys play the clip. Rob, here's what we did to recognize people who had a lot of kids. Go ahead. First time in the history of America, population is declining. Childbirth rate per Average woman is 1.6. Lowest in the history of America. If you have to step away from the meeting right now to go have unprotected sex with your wife. He's leaving right now. Dvd. Thank you. You're a good man. You are a good man right there. We have some private rooms on the back, by the way, complimentary beds, guys. We're not making enough babies. Stand up if you have only one kid. Come on. It's going to get awkward very quick. Stand up if you got four or more kids. Here's to the rock stars in the room.

[Adam]

Holy moly. Stand up.

[Pat]

Be proud, right? Stand up if you got five or more kids. Five or more kids. Freely. Stand up if you're at six or more. Make some noise to the six community. Stand up if you got seven or more kids. Are you joking? Two wives at the same time. You have seven kids, Two different marriages that you had. I was. I was about to say, if you're going to say two wives at the same time, some people are going to come ask you questions. Anybody's at eight kids that's still standing that I can't see. You nine. You got nine kids? Are you joking? Come to the front.

[Vinnie]

He looks tired.

[Adam]

He just came back from the back room.

[Pat]

That a lot.

[Tom]

This is insane.

[Pat]

Trey, how are you? You have 10 kids. You've delivered 10 kids.

[Vinnie]

Jeez.

[Pat]

You guys have eight kids together.

[Vinnie]

Look at how amazing.

[Pat]

How about you? Eight. How about yourself?

[Vinnie]

Nine.

[Pat]

Okay. This guy brought 10 people on stage who had eight or more kids and recognized them in front of everybody. Babe, we got to get to work, Right? This Catholic guy's on the. On the podcast. I said, you got eight kids? He says, yeah. I said, at what number did it get difficult? His answer is magical. He says, after three kids. Kids, it's always going to feel like three kids. I said, tell me why? He says, because the oldest is now independent. So you're always only going to feel like you have three kids. I want each of you. So guess what? By the way, the future looks bright. Guys, I'm telling you because, you know, we hit the lowest birth rate in the history of America again. But guess which side's having kids. Conservatives are. Democrats are not telling people to have kids. Democrats are opening up the borders. That's their way of getting even. They're not having kids. They know they're losing. Now watch this. Sean Alexander, former Seahawks star. Okay, Sean Alexander, you know what? He just announced his wife is pregnant with his 14th child.

[Vinnie]

Dude, what is.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Vinnie]

That's not a family reunion. That's just one family.

[Pat]

That's a family. Rob, play the clip.

[Tom]

Beautiful family, Sean. Wow.

[Vinnie]

Oh, my gosh. 11.

[Pat]

So I wasn't.

[Tom]

We're just now starting to tell people.

[Pat]

But number 14 is in the belly.

[Vinnie]

Dude, give her a break.

[Pat]

Yeah, you're the first one I've told on tv.

[Vinnie]

So.

[Pat]

Yeah, so we're just now starting to tell everybody.

[Tom]

So we have had 10 girls, three boys, my third.

[Pat]

My oldest son, the fourth overall. Joseph is a sophomore in high school. And, you know, gotta love it, buddy.

[Adam]

Let me tell you.

[Pat]

Gotta love him. I love it.

[Adam]

Sean Alexander, if you remember him playing in the NFL, greatest running back in Seattle Seahawks history, you could say he was known for putting the ball in the end zone. This guy led the NFL in touchdowns pretty much every season he was playing. He put the ball in the end zone. You need a yard, you need a goal line standard.

[Tom]

Boom.

[Adam]

He's getting the end zone. Look at this guy's touchdown stats.

[Pat]

Look at that, 27.

[Adam]

Boom.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Adam]

This guy's gonna have as many kids as he was having touchdowns in a season.

[Pat]

He's better at making kids.

[Vinnie]

You have to be, because I love you. And I have to warn you, like, you know, some people say you can't go after big pharma because they'll destroy you. Yeah, you talking like this, you're gonna have to worry about, like, big condom, like Magnum, Trojan. They're gonna come after you because you're pro. No condom. Guys, be careful. Fault.

[Pat]

If you're married right now, your spouse is next to you. Look at each other. No, no, look at her right now. Look at him. Look at her. Look at him. Go close the door. Tell the kids you guys have something to talk about. That's business dealings. Lock the doors. Make sure you put whatever you can so they can't come in that. Even the. The hanger. You know, when they unlock the stuff. You know what I'm talking about? Get to work right now and make some noise so we can hear it right now. Just one time. Scream out PBD podcast. One time. When you're at it, Scream out PBD podcast. I don't need you guys to post a video on LinkedIn or text or any of that stuff, but go make some babies.

[Vinnie]

I heard people, by the way, we.

[Tom]

Can say this today, but there was a time where you couldn't really talk about even intimate making babies on tv. Ancient, ancient television history. There's a guy named Groucho Marx.

[Pat]

Yeah, I know.

[Tom]

Used to do this little show, and people will come on there and guess a word and stuff like that. And this woman comes on. He says, I understand you're a housewife. She goes, yes, I am. Says, you have any children? I have 14. 14 children. Oh, my. Now why. Why would you want 14 children? Says, I love children. And you remember how Groucho Marx, what he always had in his hand when he was on the air? A cigar. And he said, she goes, well, I love children. He says, I love cigars, but I take it out once in a while. And it was. He got into horrible trouble for this, for just that at the dawn of tv. So that kind of wraps up our whole censorship and fcc.

[Vinnie]

We should sell PBD podcast. Valuetainment should sell condoms. But there's. It's just. There's no. There's no. It's just a ring.

[Pat]

Condoms with holes everywhere.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, yeah, condoms.

[Pat]

And like, and. And we just. We literally. We put holes in the condoms that.

[Vinnie]

You know, just go, yeah, go for it.

[Tom]

In Oxnard, California. And I. I'm ashamed to say I remember this, but there was a. In Oxford, California, I had Filipino friends that had these, like, really off color jokes they would tell about being close to the military. It says, says my mother pokes pins no, my watch. My mother's. My sister sells condoms to sailors. Yeah. My mother pokes holes with a pin. My dad performs abortion. Man. The cash rolls in.

[Vinnie]

Oh, man.

[Adam]

And it's like this.

[Vinnie]

This little cycle cheese.

[Tom]

And by the way, there's people that.

[Pat]

Are going to go friendly conversation here.

[Adam]

Yeah, well, bbd.

[Tom]

No, this. This is.

[Pat]

Shoot.

[Adam]

In all seriousness, it results in children joke right there. In all seriousness, I think I'm actually very grateful that you brought up this topic because it. It is really shows the divide of what's going on with young America right now. So women prioritize having abortions over having babies. Think about that for a second. What do you want to do when you grow up? Have a baby in a family?

[Vinnie]

No. Or have abortions.

[Pat]

Women.

[Adam]

Young women on the liberal women, which most women are, by the way. So what this stat shows is that conservative young men want to find love and build families, and women are basically told to do the exact opposite and avoid them. So this is why for young people, love feels so hard to find. Because young men. It was. Was it a top five? Was it a top ten? It was number one on the list. Having children above even getting married versus liberal women are like, sign me up for an abortion first. That's what this is. The. The woke mind virus that feminism has has insulated. And why you see women prioritize their.

[Tom]

Career, families bring back.

[Pat]

Guys, can I make a recommendation? Listen, folks, I wasn't kidding. Turn off the podcast, turn off the.

[Vinnie]

Light, get to music.

[Pat]

Play some bounce to me I'll make.

[Adam]

I'll make love to you like you want me to and I hold you, baby all through the night I make.

[Pat]

Love now I don't care if you do boys to men I don't care if you do river run, you know I don't care if you do shade I don't care if you do you know, 69 boys. I don't care what you to the type of stuff that you do.

[Adam]

I want to run. I want to run.

[Vinnie]

I want to run.

[Pat]

Guys, bring it back.

[Vinnie]

Sorry.

[Pat]

Bring it back, Bring it back.

[Tom]

Actually, to close this out, we on one thing. Peanut butter jelly, Tom. Peanut butter jelly time.

[Vinnie]

Thank you.

[Tom]

So you know, Vinnie, you know, it's interesting.

[Vinnie]

Survey Tom knew that one rap song.

[Adam]

Peanut butter jelly Time.

[Vinnie]

Finish.

[Tom]

Kamala Harris had an impact on America's women. But you know what? You know, it was very interesting. Kamala filled out one of these surveys. You know, it was number one for her. Number one running out of ice and vodka. That was comma.

[Pat]

We'Ll take it. We'll take it. All right, guys, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get into is the story about what the president did to the White House. You put up the pictures of all these presidents. I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. I want to spend three minutes on this. No more, no less, okay? So don't give me no, you know, history of. Yeah, look how respectful this is. He puts all these nice little pictures of president. Don't you just love this? Reagan, Carter, Ford, senior, Clinton. You know, you got Bush, gw, You got Obama, then you got himself, and then you got. It's Biden. Joseph, by the way, he really did this.

[Vinnie]

That is brilliant.

[Pat]

Did he really do this, Rob?

[Tom]

Yeah, the White House did this.

[Adam]

Oh, man.

[Tom]

And he put himself on both sides.

[Vinnie]

Come on, come on.

[Tom]

And by the way, do you see the one he used? I think that's the mug shot.

[Pat]

No, it's not.

[Vinnie]

No, no, it's not.

[Pat]

But it's a different picture.

[Vinnie]

It's still the. It's the blue steel look from Zula. Like, he's not.

[Pat]

Not playing to put that there, by the way. You know what that means if you put that there? You know what it means if we put the auto pen there? What does it really mean if you put that?

[Adam]

He's coming after that.

[Pat]

It's not done.

[Vinnie]

Oh, come on, let's do it, please.

[Pat]

That's not done.

[Vinnie]

President Trump. Keep going.

[Pat]

That is not done. That means something is coming in the next few weeks. If you put it up there because you had already forgotten about it. Think about. We haven't talked about auto pen for a couple months.

[Vinnie]

I swear to you, I was thinking about it this morning.

[Pat]

But I'll tell you, Vinnie, I know you were thinking.

[Vinnie]

I was.

[Pat]

You were thinking about it this morning.

[Tom]

Thanks for going.

[Pat]

Because this picture just came back up. So it back in here, but the market had gotten away from it, so they're bringing it back and they post something like this. Is this a. Is this like a message like the 86 on the. Like an 86, you know, it's just like one of those things, you know?

[Vinnie]

Oh, I hope so.

[Pat]

Who knows? Who knows?

[Adam]

What do you think of this, guys? What do you think of this?

[Pat]

I think it's a statement and saying, hey, keep saying stuff behind my back. And I. I think the one person that he hasn't yet fully gone after that, I think he is on the list. Obama's. Obama's that guy. And I know they're trying to mess with him. By the way, Obama sat down with somebody. And folks, if you're an old man, brace for impact because he's trying to disrespect and I don't appreciate it. I don't appreciate it when some people do that kind of stuff. But here's Barack Obama having a conversation, making fun of old men. You know, it's not appropriate. But here's what he had to say. Go ahead, Rob.

[Adam]

Not nice.

[Pat]

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[Adam]

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[Pat]

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[Vinnie]

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[Pat]

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[Vinnie]

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[Pat]

Also, especially young people because it's fair to say that 80% of the world's problems involve old men hanging on and.

[Tom]

Who are afraid of death and insignificance.

[Pat]

And they won't let go.

[Adam]

Like Joe Biden and.

[Tom]

Schumer.

[Pat]

You know, they build pyramids and they.

[Tom]

Put their names on everything.

[Vinnie]

And.

[Adam]

Except for Trump did that.

[Vinnie]

He doesn't build. He doesn't build anything about it. He doesn't build anything.

[Tom]

Now he's not building a library in Trump.

[Vinnie]

Somebody with gray hair.

[Pat]

I thought it was Roland G. Fry. Who is Rob? Who is the interviewer?

[Tom]

I'll have to find out.

[Pat]

I would love to see a picture.

[Tom]

How much does it cost to make.

[Vinnie]

Your hair look that way?

[Pat]

Hang on one second. Can you see who that was, Rob, please?

[Adam]

It's like Vinnie's old hair dude.

[Pat]

I actually want to know who that person is because I want to know. That was fantastic. Like who is that person?

[Tom]

Crazy hairstyle.

[Pat]

Can you, can you like research? It's a very. It's imperative we know who that is. How do you make your hair so. But anyways to make a statement like that, right man, old man that wants to have relevance that they built stuff like pyramids and put their names on it so he's trying to call out to, he's trying to call out Trump 100% yet. What, what do you say about what Biden did? What do you say about how this is, who is this guy, by the way? David Olagusa, British historian, my friend, Historian, writer, broadcast historian. Well, that, listen, that picture he extremely dark with the light.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, the lighting was really brought up.

[Pat]

The Nigerian side of him a little too much, but yeah. So Tom, what do you think Obama is saying here? What is he trying to say?

[Tom]

I think he's trying to look, he's, he's taken a shot at Trump and saying old guys put your name on everything like all the Trump buildings. But what he's, you know, he didn't go to boomerang safety training. Obama didn't go to go to that special class because who he's really poking at, he's poking at all of the people that are in our government. My goodness. He's poking at Jerry Nadler, he's poking at Schumer. Look at this. People that hang on. And so he's trying to very make this sly veiled shot at Trump but he ends up pointing at a lot of people in his own party and his own government, including himself a little bit. He's about to build a big old building with his name on it, an ugly one in Chicago, everybody.

[Vinnie]

Thank you. That's the point I want to make. You're building a big ass building.

[Tom]

There are representatives from the DNC that says. I said that. They say that the Obama library, they said that's modern art but says that's not going to, that's not going to live up the test of time. It's pretty ugly building. And this is people in the dnc, we're saying, man, that's the library. And so I think Obama's trying to poke, trying to be sly, trying to be below the surface.

[Vinnie]

Look at that, Tom. He wants to talk about making pyramids. What the hell is that? What is that? Ugly, Ugly.

[Pat]

It's not building yet, so give it a break. It may end up being nice.

[Vinnie]

Well, guess what? There's 90 shootings on the weekend right by it. Is that Chicago? What is that?

[Pat]

Is that a Porsche wrap or is that, what car is that? That's a Porsche.

[Tom]

That's a patient.

[Pat]

Maybe it's going to get better. Maybe it's going to get better.

[Adam]

I don't know.

[Pat]

Go ahead.

[Adam]

That's what it's supposed to look like.

[Vinnie]

That's what it's going to look like.

[Adam]

It does look.

[Vinnie]

Is it A church or would it a presidential library?

[Pat]

Library. It's a library.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. It's ugly as hell. Who wants to read it?

[Pat]

Are those letters, Rob?

[Adam]

Like that's what it looks like? Yes.

[Pat]

Can you zoom in a little bit more? You can?

[Adam]

That's as close as I can get.

[Pat]

Well, all right, great. I mean everybody has different tastes. Someone wants to build it like that. I'm your thoughts?

[Adam]

Well, there's two things going on here. I'm actually not a fan of what Trump did or what Obama did. I think what Trump did with the auto pen thing could be viewed as juvenile or divisive. You know, but the same time Trump is a troll. You know, trolls, people. I get it. I think it's a little bit below the presidential office. However, I do support Trump. You know, what Obama's doing, I found egregious. You know how I feel. Do not make fun of old white men. It is uncalled for. It is disgusting. And Obama needs to do better. And I'm not a fan of either of these guys antics. Yeah, and what the subtle jab that certain people do much. Sometimes I find too much. What do you think?

[Vinnie]

Can I, can I be honest with you?

[Pat]

What do you think? Tom, he's asking you a question.

[Tom]

You shouldn't pick on middle aged white guys here.

[Pat]

By the way, who's older, Obama or Tom?

[Vinnie]

Obama.

[Adam]

I think Tom's older than Obama.

[Vinnie]

I think Obama's 60s. What is Obama?

[Adam]

Tom's definitely cooler cut.

[Vinnie]

64.

[Adam]

And Tom is also 64.

[Vinnie]

Way better than nobody.

[Adam]

Look at Tom's here, 65.

[Vinnie]

Look at Tom's hair. Obama.

[Adam]

You're 63. So you and Obama are pretty much the same age. I mean you guys both look great. A little bit of gray. And Obama, no gray.

[Pat]

I'm sorry. Much better.

[Adam]

I agree.

[Pat]

Being serious.

[Adam]

Tom has no gray on the hair on the chin.

[Pat]

No gray hair.

[Vinnie]

Just on his chin because he. Because he talks a lot. Because words talk numbers. Screams. His mouth, his mouth.

[Pat]

Do you want to say anything about the story? We can move on.

[Vinnie]

I can say about the story.

[Adam]

No Obama here.

[Tom]

No, I said my.

[Pat]

Thought he was.

[Tom]

I thought he was poking at Trump and you know, people live in glass houses.

[Pat]

Shouldn't throw a stone twice. I think he.

[Vinnie]

I think. And again with all the stuff that this guy tried to do with the spying of Trump, he has been defeated by Trump. And you know what? Your reign is over The Barack Obama. Yes, we can. And change. And one of the worst to me, one of the worst presidents. Okay, you want to talk about holding on the power. This last election, one of the most devastating losses. And he had a huge part of it because they tried to wheel him out and do the whole, hey, guys, if you're black, you have to vote for Kamala. And it's bullshit. And you know what I think, Pat? This is my opinion why he's so angry and he's so bitter and he has all this anger. And every time you see him with Michelle, it's like they're complete strangers, I think. And after what Larry Sinclair said about what he was doing in Illinois when he was in the state legislator driving around, allegedly, this is Sinclair doing drugs, smoking crack, sleeping with men. I think my opinion, he's just. He's a gay man that can't come out and Stop.

[Adam]

Stop it. Vinnie. Can I just.

[Tom]

I don't go there.

[Vinnie]

But I'll say, Vincent.

[Tom]

I'll say that in retirement, he took an L last year on his influence. He took an L and he. I think he's trying to find a place for himself. More presidents should be like Jimmy Carter. That said, I'm going to dedicate myself to Habitat for Humanity and doing things in community. And Jimmy Carter went and do that. Even if you didn't like Jimmy Carter straight.

[Vinnie]

No, I think he's gay. I think people judge is gay for sure.

[Pat]

You think Pete is gay because Tucker says Peter's just acting like he's gay?

[Vinnie]

No, no. Pete Buttigieg is married.

[Adam]

I don't know.

[Vinnie]

And they bought a kid, and that's a whole different situation. But this is my opinion. I just feel like Obama's that guy. And I feel like he'd be a way happier person if he just came out and said, like, be like Don Levin, grab a mic and go on the streets.

[Pat]

He's getting girls left.

[Vinnie]

You honestly think Obama? Who? Obama? No, I think that's all.

[Tom]

I think that was real. There's a lot of people we've spoke to that said it was real.

[Pat]

Really?

[Tom]

Jennifer Aniston had a. Had a.

[Pat]

This guy Obama. I don't know.

[Vinnie]

You don't think he's done any shady stuff?

[Pat]

I don't know if he's done any of that stuff or not. I'm not sitting here saying what he's done with that part. I'm not saying that. All I'm like, we went to a restaurant last night. I have to give a disclaimer when I take that guys to this restaurant. You know what the restaurant's called? Meat Market. Do you know in the army when guys would say, you want to go to.

[Vinnie]

It's all dudes. It's all dudes.

[Pat]

So I have to say download, right?

[Vinnie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pat]

Very good restaurant. It's a. It's called meat market. Now.

[Adam]

Come on, Pat, you. You don't think I've ever eaten at the meat market?

[Pat]

I know, but what I'm saying is when you go to the meat market, there is. No, that's not what it looks like. It's a restaurant.

[Adam]

Very classy.

[Pat]

Yeah. But I, I think, I think Obama's getting a lot of play. What I think is going on, Vinnie, which is a different situation for me. I think. I don't even know if I should say this. Do it.

[Vinnie]

I want to hear this.

[Adam]

Don't do it.

[Pat]

I think, you know, he's bored in his marriage. I think that's what it is. And I think Obama is a higher grade man. And I'm not saying Michelle is not great for what she's done and her accolades and her capabilities, the way she communicates, the way she speaks. But Obama's a good looking guy. Obama's aged well. He's handsome and he's taking care of his body. And I think he has so many options and that's what he's battling with. And I'm sure he's had so many times that he's had opportunities where, you know, she knows about it and they're trying to find a way to make the marriage work. And I think that that part, I do believe she's going through it and she's having a hardest time with it because even in that sit down that they had together, it looked like he was trying to make her happy, but he was also uncomfortable. And it's as if they hadn't seen each other for a while.

[Tom]

Like the dinner table thing, reaching across.

[Pat]

The dinner table thing.

[Vinnie]

I'm not just making stuff up. With the letters that he wrote to his girlfriend talking about fantasizing over men. These aren't. I'm not. But just to say it's my opinion.

[Tom]

But I have done that back in college. He did. I agree.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. And I'm not coming out of the blue just saying that. Look at that leg. It's almost another person's leg.

[Pat]

Look at him. Look at him. That's a good looking guy.

[Vinnie]

Yeah. I'm not taking away from him being.

[Pat]

What I'm saying is he's got options. Am I saying like, you know, in, back in the days he had, you know, I don't know, like, maybe, you know, fencing, you know, certain sports like it's different for, I don't know, might.

[Vinnie]

Be a fencing college.

[Pat]

I don't know. I never played lacrosse. I never did fencing. We never any of this stuff.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

But all I'm saying in this situation, yeah, he is a good looking guy with a lot of options and a lot of those people, because think about it. Imagine you're a Hollywood superstar, actress, okay. Who is trying to get even with your ex. And your ex is a guy named Brad.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

You have to go above somebody for him to be, of course jealous and say, oh, punch up. This is punching up. This is as up as it gets. Barack Obama. So I think that's the challenge that he's dealing with. Anyway, let's go to next door here. Next door here. Next door I want to get to is Mamdani in New York. Mamdani in New York with what's going on over there. So Zohran Mamdani, his lead is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. The dominant lead in latest New York City mayor poll shows that even more bad news for the rivals. Okay, so more bad news for the rivals. Now what does that mean, more bad news for the rivals. Let's read through some of these things here. Mamdani holds a dominant 20 point lead in the race, bolstered by majority support from black, Latino and Asian voters, according to a new poll recording released Tuesday. Mamdani's leads independent candidate and former Governor Cuomo 45 to 25. Bam. 20 point lead on Curtis Lewa. He trails by 9%. He's at 9% and then Adams is at 8%. It's just not looking good the way it's going right now. And Mamdani building support among black and Hispanic voters since his huge victory in June. Democratic Party search over Cuomo with a slew of other candidates. Mamdani now leads Cuomo better than 2 to 1. And some 53% of black voters support Mamdani compared to 21% of Como and 10% of Adams. Black voters are choosing Mamdani over Adams and Adams is black. Okay, so we're not talking like a Sammy Sosa situation here. Even though Mamdani is not black, they're supporting him more. And Adams who was in like he was there in New York, he was a cop. They're not supporting him. They're going for Mamdani. And on top of this, SLIWA had a few things to say and Adams came out. And Adams camp campaign disappearing act. His fifth day as insiders wonder if he's quiet quitting New York City mayoral race, and he's going to be stepping away. And a lot of people are saying, this guy's going to be stepping away. And then Curtis Lewis, the Republican candidate, comes out and says the following here. Said he was offered money to quit. Go ahead, Rob. Have you seen Eric Adams with 40 days out of a campaign?

[Vinnie]

And he has been invisible on the campaign trail.

[Pat]

So I'm sure he's in the process of trying to figure out if the.

[Vinnie]

Price is right for him to drop out. In reference to myself, these overtures were made by people that I've known over the years.

[Pat]

They're obviously Cuomo supporters, and they offered.

[Vinnie]

Millions of dollars for me to basically not run the campaign, to drop out.

[Pat]

Okay, so I guess the question becomes the following, Tom, you're pretty good at these types of things. Who drops out first, who drops out second. And with a week out of November 4th election, which I think is November 4th, for probably the most important mayoral race New York City has seen in a long time, maybe ever, who do you think will be the final two candidates a week out of November 4th election?

[Tom]

A week out of November 4th, there'll be Curtis, Sliwa and Mamdani.

[Pat]

You think Cuomo's gonna drop out?

[Tom]

No, no, no. Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. I think Cuomo's in. You're talking about the two majors. Cuomo's independent. Right.

[Pat]

So Cuomo is going to be in. Sliwa is going to be in. Mamdani is going to be in.

[Tom]

Right. Two weeks back, say only about a week and a half before the horrible tragedy with Charlie Kirk, the assassination, what were we talking about? Eric Adams had met with the President. The President was reaching out to Eric Adams. The President was trying to broker something. And if you look at Eric Adams, Eric Adams, 8 on Cuomo's 27 is still only 35. If it is true that among all voters, that in a four horse race, Mamdani is sitting on 45, the rest of the table has to sweep with no breakage. Remember we talked about the independence on Bobby Kennedy, that 1 in 5 would actually go Biden. So you only ended up net three, Remember, Pat?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Tom]

Five for Bobby, one for Biden. So that means one for Trump cancels. So he only got three net three for Trump. This is the same kind of math you go here that I've been staring at. And the part of me. There's two things that shock me. Trump won with the independent voters. Go to the bottom of the first column. I know 26% of the independent Voters are going with mom Diamond.

[Pat]

You know what's shocking on that as well?

[Tom]

That is the President. That's the problem.

[Pat]

Oh, my God.

[Tom]

That is not wrong.

[Pat]

Independent voters, 26 to 23 lead over Cuomo. But that means Cuomo could beat him. But you know what's a shocking one for me? 27% of New York City Jewish voters.

[Vinnie]

I swear to you, I was looking at that.

[Pat]

How 27% of Jewish voters want Mamdani and the only other community they're okay with this Cuomo. Look at the Republicans. Six percent of Republicans want Mamdani. Okay, Tom, go look at the very liberal voters. What percentage of very liberal voters want SLIWA?

[Vinnie]

0.

[Pat]

0. How about Adams? 2%. But 6% of Republicans want Mamdani in New York. Listen, doesn't New York Republic. I said this at Jubilee. Let's get Mamdani and see what happens. It's gonna get Mumdani.

[Vinnie]

The odds are he's going to, right?

[Pat]

Yeah. You know, I mean, at this point, the one thing said that if Sliwa and Adams dropped out, Cuomo could beat Mamdani. But who knows if that's going to happen. Go ahead.

[Vinnie]

I just want to make one. One point out like. And Slee. I think he, you know, has good intentions and I wish he was better. But you know what it is? It's the beret. You cannot be wearing a red beret and people are going to take you. You're not a French chef.

[Tom]

You know why he's doing is the.

[Vinnie]

No, but listen, you're not. If he was wearing a Yankee fitted, I guarantee you the percentage would be up.

[Pat]

Do you know why he's doing it now? Go ahead, Tom.

[Tom]

Because earlier in his life, he formed a group called the Guardian Angels, which were Independent Community Protection Squad.

[Vinnie]

Yes.

[Tom]

That when New York had such terrible crime, and you'll find pictures of him much, much younger with a whole tribe of people of all races. They were actually trying to come together multiple races to make communities safer at night. It was legit that sometimes they were armed. A lot of times they just had their red jackets and they had maybe a club or mace and they didn't carry guns. So he's trying to remind people.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, but it's not working.

[Tom]

I was once for New York and here I agree with you. But that's the whole point.

[Vinnie]

And I knew something about that. But what I'm saying is, bro, as a look, they want somebody that they could look at and be like, okay, this person is political. And whatever. They're not.

[Tom]

It's not going to sell just the community watch.

[Pat]

You know, just moment right here. What just happened? Do you know what this means with this moment watching what you. What just happened? You have to explain to Vinnie why he's wearing a red beret. That means he has to explain to young voters. Young voters don't know why he's wearing that exactly. You know, like maybe he's thinking, like, am I trying to connect with like Tim Pool audience? I don't know what he's doing, but to the average person, you don't know what's going on.

[Tom]

You're absolutely right.

[Pat]

Younger audience needs an explanation.

[Tom]

And I don't hear him. If you look at his stump speeches and stuff.

[Pat]

I'm not trying to be funny. I just.

[Tom]

I'm not trying to be funny either. I thought you were out there that says, listen, we're coming to a dangerous New York. If this guy's elected, you're gonna have a more dangerous New York. I grew up in the city. I formed a community watch group and says, you know, this red beret hearkens back to a time where I, I, without a weapon, walk the streets of New York with my compatriots, trying to keep the streets safe at night.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Tom]

And says, and I want that same New York in the future. He's got to pull to the, to the emotion of people to remember what it was.

[Pat]

Yeah, I agree. But at the same time, I think at this point, Adam, let's, let's give the final thoughts.

[Tom]

Got to run the table now.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Adam]

Well, I'm just going to give a preemptive congratulation to the new mayor of New York city, Zoran Mamdani. Mr. Mayor, thank you for coming. What's going to unfold in the next 40 days is that Curtis Sliwa, who's at 1%. Him and the red beret, they'll be gone. Respect to you. Boom, boom, boom. Then Eric Adams, who's now trending at somewhere below 1%. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for your service. You're gone. Cuomo, who's somewhere at 10% in the odds. Sir, thank you for all your efforts you've done to make New York the state it is. But it's Mayor Mamdani's time. New York City, which was once the heart of capitalism in this country, is now the new home to progressive Islamist communism. Congratulations, New York City. Hope you get for you pay for. Now, here's the second point. You know, sometimes I'm actually anti Semitic as well. Now you might be saying, what do.

[Vinnie]

You Mean you self hating Jewish person. Adam.

[Adam]

Bingo.

[Vinnie]

You self hate some of the.

[Adam]

Let him go.

[Tom]

I know what he's going to say.

[Adam]

Some of the worst people out there are these super liberal progressive Jewish people. And this is from a moderate, somewhat conservative Jewish guy. I'm anti Semitic against those mother suckers. I'm talking about the Bernie Sanders of the world. The George Soros is of the world. I wouldn't even say is Jewish. He's. I don't know if he's the devil, but they're certainly in touch. And Chuck Schumer's of the world. These people do not represent Judaism. They don't represent Israel. They represent themselves. It's much like when you see a Christian pastor who's talking about, let's be inclusive and tolerant of the LGBT community. And you have people being like, yeah, I don't know if that's what we need to be sending the messages in church. I don't know. The point is this. Certain people need to be called out. And if, what is it, 40%, 27% of Jewish voters in New York are the ones voting for Mamdani. Hi, guys. Have a great life. Peace out.

[Pat]

Yeah, I mean, it is going to be. It is going to be a very interesting. It is going to be a very, very interesting move in New York as they're going through this process. But. All right, let's get to next door here. Next door I want to get to is Rob, which, which one is the story that I wanted to cover that we haven't gone through yet? There was one story that I wanted to. Boom, boom, boom. Which one?

[Adam]

Is it business?

[Pat]

No, let me see which one it was.

[Adam]

Oh, not business.

[Pat]

Newsom. Newsom talks about 2020 election won't be happening. So, Rob, if you want to go to this one here and then Tom, I'm going to go to the lithium story next. So be ready for the lithium one. Newsom fears Trump will cancel 2028 election to stay in power. Rob, can you please play this clip? And by the way, I think his hair got grayer and it looks better on him. Let me just start off with a compliment, Gavin. If you say we never compliment you, and then after the compliment comes something else that has to do with everyone to pay Gavin a comment.

[Tom]

He's got a great job.

[Pat]

Go ahead. Go ahead, Rob. I fear that we will not have an election in 2028. I really mean that in the core of my soul. Unless we wake up to the code red, what's happening in this country and we wake up soberly to how serious this moment is.

[Vinnie]

Race the rudders.

[Pat]

Raise the sails.

[Vinnie]

Raise the sails.

[Adam]

Captain, an unidentified ship is approaching.

[Pat]

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[Adam]

Look at the applause, bro.

[Tom]

Look at the starts.

[Pat]

First with the finger and then boom.

[Vinnie]

He does.

[Pat]

He takes the trigger.

[Vinnie]

Watch.

[Pat]

Watch what happens to that finger. Go do it again. Fear. Watch what happens with a finger. Boom. Hold the trigger. Do it again.

[Vinnie]

Great.

[Pat]

Cause Fear trigger. Pull it. Okay, pause it. And election. Look, here's what I will tell you. You fear you're not going to have election 2028, Gavin, you know you don't believe that. Okay? But let me say, tell you something here. There is, there's annual conventions. That happens in Vegas. That is for the adult entertainment business. What is it called? It's called the Viv. I don't know what the.

[Vinnie]

What's it called, Tom.

[Pat]

What is it called?

[Vinnie]

Av. Rob knows of all people.

[Pat]

What is it called, Rob? AV Awards.

[Tom]

The AVN Awards.

[Pat]

What's it called? Oh, AVN Awards. Right, whatever. Please don't pull up pictures. We're not doing what you did last time. Last time I asked Rob to go to a website.

[Vinnie]

People's feet were behind their head.

[Pat]

So I do believe if you had to give the biggest Fear Porn star of the year award, I think it's Gavin Newsom. I really do. And I by the way, I think can we. Can somebody make a picture on the back and send it to me so I can post it? Hey, whoever the design team that knows how to make send it to me. Send it to me. I'll pick one and I want to post it. I. I think and Rob, if we can do it right now because I want the audience to get behind it, we should recognize him. The Fear Porn Award A year avn. Fear Porn Star Award of the Year Gavin Newsom. And I want to post it.

[Vinnie]

Is he a lifetime.

[Pat]

Because I think this guy deserves a lifetime achievement medal for this. I think the amount of fear porn this man has spewed out gets a credit. I don't know what the prop is when they give it. I don't even want to imagine what the prop is.

[Adam]

It's a good one.

[Pat]

But whatever the prop is, when you spew out stuff like this, Tom, the question becomes the following. Is he doing it on purpose? Does he know it's not true? That there's going to be an election, 2028? What is his outcome of this? Is it just like more people talking about him? Is that all it is? What do you think it is?

[Tom]

I think that's exactly what it is. And I think what they do very strategically, and I'm not going to turn this into a joke, they pick their spots. They want to put them two things. I want him in a spotlight, and I want a. An outrageous statement to be made. We were just talking about freedom of speech. Great. You know what we could do? Hey, maybe we won't have an election next year. Send me out. Send me the talk shows. I am worried that we will not have an election in 2028, so. And it's a bombastic way to get in front of the cameras and to point out that crazy authoritarian that's on message with dnc. Authoritarian is going to. Is. Is going to do this. And in this case, he's got nothing to talk about on policy. He's got no wins in California to talk about on anything. There hasn't been any economic stats that somebody else came out of that he could take credit for. So he's just out there with his team inverting a headline so he can go out there and put himself in the spotlight and. And poke at it. I think it's that simple, Pat. It's strategic.

[Pat]

I'm with you by a guy.

[Tom]

And by the way, I respect the machine he's got. And the Republicans and everybody else better be ready to deal with this machine in 2028.

[Pat]

No, I agree. Adam, your thoughts?

[Adam]

Well, I can just see Gavin Newsom accepting the award. They're like, please welcome the winner of the Gaslighting the Public award, the Fear Porn Award. The biggest hypocrisy user in the world, manipulating the media, confusing words, flip flopping the greatest hair. The Fear Porn Award goes to Gavin Newsom. Come up and get your award here, buddy. He knows that Trump isn't running again in 2028. Trump has actually Said that you want me to gaslight. I'm a gaslight. I hope Trump won't in 2028. I'm rooting for Trump to run in 2028. And I hope that Gavin Newsom is a Democratic nominee. And I hope in Florida it comes down to the a very close election, just like it did in the closest election of our lifetime, Tom, which was Bush versus Gore, not Trump versus Kamala Harris, Ms. Ex former Vice President. And I hope that it comes down to the final vote, the hanging chad. And if I had that vote, I would vote for Trump every single time. And Gavin would lose, I think, and Trump would be president for a third time.

[Vinnie]

And I don't say this lightly. I have my opinions. I truly think this guy is a sociopath. You should. I saw this whole thing Pat, the audience cheering and going crazy. I mean, he's still like you said, he is very good. You have to give credit where credit is due. He believes in his madness. And let's just really fast California, because this is what this is going to be. And I've said this before, even with what's his face. I was here. Sam Cedar, California. Number one in homelessness, number one in poverty. Number one in retail crime. Number one in gas prices. Number one in illiteracy. Number one in a wage stagnation, frivolous lawsuits, restrictions on workers. I could guys in gas tax I could keep besides your gas lighting.

[Adam]

None of that matters.

[Vinnie]

No, no, I know Adam. It's all about but none of that matters.

[Adam]

It's all about your feelings.

[Vinnie]

You want to see? And Robbie, can you put this on the speed of 1.75 just to show you how he's doing. It's a script what he's doing right now. He's on the script tour of the the Fear Porn Awards. Yeah, Rob, you put it fast.

[Adam]

Yep.

[Vinnie]

Guys, tell me. Look at this. Look at what he's doing.

[Pat]

He's weakness masquerading as strength. Donald Trump is weakness masquerading as strength. Scared to death about not just these authoritarian tendencies, but these authoritarian actions. These are not just authoritarian tendencies. These are authoritarian actions. You think I'm exaggerating, being hyperbolic? Never sent the military overseas. He sent the military to the United States of America. Sent 700 active active duty members of the Marines. He sent the United States Marines not overseas, but to an American city. 700 active duty marines. You have the largest private police force in the world is the private largest private domestic army of its type police force anywhere in the world increasingly is showing a Tendency not to swear an oath to the Constitution, but to the President of the United States and increasingly appear to be swearing oath of office to him, not the Constitution of the United States.

[Adam]

Campaign is for 20, 28 points.

[Vinnie]

But what I'll get it twisted with, with what he says, because I want to give you an example of the fear porn. Okay. We just had the Dallas sniper shooter. Okay, right. With Joshua John, Pat. Right. All the stuff that he was talking about, ice and bullets, about ice and all this negative crap. Attacks on ice are up 800% this year. August Karen Bass bragged about tracking ICE agents. This kid had an app that was tracking ICE agents. And this is all coming from people like this. Gavin Newsom has blood on his hands. Did you see, Rob? Did you see what he was saying?

[Tom]

I have it.

[Vinnie]

Can you show what he was saying? This is just weeks ago. He did this twice.

[Pat]

Joshua John is the same guy that played 17,500 hours of violent video games. And he's the guy that tried to kill ICE agents, but he ended up killing Cool Rob.

[Tom]

He killed one migrant that was being detained at the facility and then injured two others. And just so you know, this video is not from last week. It's actually from the day before the shooting.

[Vinnie]

This is the day before the shooting. Go ahead.

[Pat]

In the United States of America, masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing. No due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United States of America today. People ask, well, is authoritarianism. You're being hyperbolic. We're being hyperbolic. If you're a black and brown community.

[Tom]

It'S here in this country.

[Vinnie]

And so, yeah. Can I say one thing? Where were you when these illegals that you were worrying about were raping and killing American women? None of them ever said one thing. One thing. And then the day after this, this guy, and this is a week ago when he said, hey, ice, take off your mask. What are you afraid of? You know what they're afraid of? Getting sniped. You.

[Pat]

You.

[Vinnie]

Porn award.

[Pat]

3,000 votes. 60, something percent say it's going to be Gavin Newsom, 2028 election.

[Vinnie]

60. How much?

[Pat]

63. He's got all the right moves, our audience.

[Vinnie]

Oh, I agree with the 63.

[Pat]

Let me get to the next story and we'll wrap up. So what was. I said I was going to go. We'll do a couple of stories. We'll do lithium and we'll go to this one. Owner of Radio Shack, Pier 1 Imports and other brands accused by Sec. Of operating $112 million Ponzi scheme. Okay, this is not a good look, but we don't know if it's 100% true or not. Let me just read this. Rob, can you pull up the story please? Can you pull up the story? So a pair of e commerce entrepreneurs who bought bankrupt retail giants including Pier 1 Imports Radio Shack model sporting sporting goods have been accused of running a 112 million dollar scheme. According to a new lawsuit. The US Securities Exchange Commission accused Alex and Tai Lope Alex Maritai Lopez, founder members of Miami based retail e commerce venture by duping investors out of $112 million. According to the federal Southern District of Florida filing obtained by the Post. Mayor and Lopez were known for snatching up struggling brick and mortar brands and attempting to brand rebrand them as online shops. Their business portfolios also includes Dress Barn Model Sporting Goods and Stein Mart. The suit as well. Mayor, an Iranian born immigrant who worked in risky and safety management at NASA safe exploration missions teams up with Lopez at the height of the retail carnage in 2019 with nearly 10,000 stores went out of business. The Post previously reported. Lopez also showed me some influence on Urban Book 67 on how to mention. Okay, all right, so what do we know about the story? Tom, what do we know about the story? Because I think what they were trying to do is Ty knows how to use traffic to a website. So he wanted to convert Radio Shack and all these things to sell the products through the Internet. And so they picked them up. What happened next time?

[Tom]

Well, apparently what he and his business partner did is says hey, these are great brands. People remember Pier 1 Imports. It used to almost be kind of a combination of IKEA and you know, Restoration Hardware. You know, you could buy all these things at Pier 1 Imports, decorate your house and all stuff like that. And so these brands and Radio Shack used to go there to get dish, used to go there to get computers.

[Pat]

You work at Radio Shack many years ago when you were doing Sprint, right? You guys were doing it.

[Tom]

Absolutely. Radio Shack had what was called the store within a store. So one wall of Radio Shack was Sprint. And Sprint had put this wall together in partnership of Radio shack for sprint PCs and they cranked out volume and they were in all these small cities, they had kiosks, all these things going on. So once upon a time these brands meant something to Americans. And they apparently the SEC is saying here's what you did. You took these two brands, you tried to get people to invest and you were using those. And investors according to the SEC that there's a complaint that's going to come down about what they say it ended up being $112 million Ponzi scheme. If this is what has happened, that means that Mayor and Lopez basically got people to invest in this, and it didn't go that way. And now investors lost their money or it was later. When they say Ponzi scheme, it's like, pat, that means later investors. I mean, early investors got interest payments or returns based on later investors. It's like, you're the first investor, and I'm the number 50th. I give them a check for $10,000 and they give you 2,000, and hey, here's 2,000 of your profit. Oh, my gosh. That's working really good. And that's the Ponzi scheme nature of it. So this is bad. And this is coming down. When the US SEC says that they're are accusing them, we're waiting to see what the. What the indictment looks like. But this is never good. And you know, when you've got people, Pat, you remember these guys, he had this program, he would sell 67 steps. Of course, every now and then you'd see people saying, hey, I got out of alcoholism. I started a small business. 67 steps really helped me. I like that. That's a great story. And if on the other side of this, if this indictment comes down and then these guys are guilty, that's really sad. But right now, I think we got to let the SEC do its work. But a headline that's got your name in IT and SEC and accusation and 112 million in Ponzi is never a good thing.

[Adam]

Yeah, this is not a good look for Tai Lopez. I hope it's not true. Say it. And so we all remember Tai Lopez, one of the first OG influencers in the game. We remember him with his phone in the garage before selfies were even a thing. With the Ferrari and the garage with the books. I hope this is not true. Now, you know, a lot of people are going to probably do content about this. There's going to be a rush to judgment. Let's just remember in America, you're innocent until proven guilty. He'll have his day, apparently, in court, but I hope for Ty's sake that he wouldn't do something like this. But this is why, you know, Pat always says, you never know. You got to play the long game with certain people. So we'll see what happens. What do you think?

[Pat]

I. No, I hope nothing happens to these guys. At one point, his content did inspire a lot of young guys. And I think Alex Mayer actually built a real business.

[Adam]

There's, like a book business.

[Pat]

No, not the book business. Alex. Alex actually built something that somebody bought.

[Adam]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And. And what was the business that he built? Rob, can you pull it up? He was. It was. It was a date. It was. I'm trying to see if it was a dating site or. Zeus. There it is. Zeus. So go. Go up to that one.

[Adam]

Zeus.

[Pat]

Zeus. Oh, Zeus, the founder of Zoosk. Yeah. So what did Zeus sell for? Can you. Can you pull up what Zoosk sold for? What did. What did Zoosk sell for? Yeah, that's his company. It was acquired for $255 million. So this is a real entrepreneur. It's not like they're not now what happens here. I hope nothing happens as they go through this. And who knows? Sometimes on the way you make enemies and people come after you. I hope this is a story that comes and leaves and they're fine, and they continue growing their businesses. All right, Rob, in regards to couple new findings with the Charlie Crook shooting. Vinnie.

[Vinnie]

Yeah.

[Pat]

There's a few things that are very weird on what's been shown the last couple days. Okay. And I don't know which angle to go with right now. Let's start off with Rob. If you want to pull the clips of when the shooting happens, there's now potentially they're looking at how many different shooters, Tom, what is it they're looking.

[Tom]

At there right now? There's three scenarios that Tyler from the roof.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Tom]

But that doesn't look like an exit wound. That doesn't look like an entry wound. That looks like an exit wound. And then shooter on top of the. Adjacent to his right.

[Pat]

The audience left.

[Vinnie]

Correct.

[Tom]

Up behind some shrub or some item.

[Adam]

Up on the roof that needs to be looked into.

[Tom]

And then people are also looking at the way the shirt moves and the way his microphone moves and the way the earpiece flipped out and the necklace flipped out. Was there actually? Believe it or not, this is the.

[Adam]

Third mechanism on the mic.

[Tom]

There is something on the mic.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Tom]

And it. All I'll say is that every day that goes by, when you look at all this video, it looks less and less and less and less and less possible that it was a single shot from a.38.30 06 by Tyler.

[Pat]

And on top of that, a couple things. Vinny, maybe you want to break that down on the digging. And guy takes a chip, puts it in a hat, put it on. You know, maybe walk through that part.

[Vinnie]

And by the way, there was. And just to go Back. I don't want, I don't want to say definitively, but there was a kid who was there and witnessed everything that's trying to give his account. And as he's saying it, he's grabbed and silenced and he's yelling, get the hell off me, get off me. He was being silenced because he was giving his account. I don't know if it was Andrew that went up to him, but it looked like him from the side. I don't know. I'm just saying it might have been when it's aftermath when the kids describing the situation. But if that's the case and Charlie was hit here and the bullet came out there, I don't know if it was that day or the next very next day. They were basically doing construction and digging up that entire area and putting like concrete things and slabs down, which is unheard of. Okay, because people are now insinuating, well, wait a minute, if he was shot here and the bullet went in there, you guys are digging up where the actual round is. Because we haven't heard about an autopsy. I know they're doing toxicology, but look at this. This is where Charlie was, was shot. What do they really that fast after you guys are, are digging up and doing a bunch of stuff and then with the individual that they're talking about.

[Tom]

It'S like the garden hose on the.

[Vinnie]

Roof when they shot on Butler. Guys. So a murder, an assassination just happened. I don't care if you work for Turning Point. I don't give a damn what anybody's story is. Nothing is to be touched. That camera that was behind Charlie, that is now evidence. The chair that you moved and you stand on, you just contaminated the crime scene. Okay? Leave it alone. Where the hell was security? Where the hell was somebody to keep the integrity of the scene? And then there's footage of the guy going back there, putting his hands on everything, taking out the SD card and turning. And when it goes behind there, Rob, he gives it to that guy, like, doesn't look shady at all. And then Rob, do they actually follow him when he goes behind? Keep it going, keep it going. Let me see if this is the actual one because the one that I saw, he takes it out, gives it to a guy and it looks like he, look at this. Puts it in a hat and then puts his hat on. And I know everybody's going to say, well he works for Turning Point and I don't care who he works for. Why are you touching stuff? Why are you touching that? I have another angle. Rob. I'll send it to you about him, but it's not adding up. And the. Pat, do you mind me bringing up the Nicholas Cage Snake Eyes thing? That happened. So for all you guys, all the older people out there, there was a movie in 1998 called Snake Eyes with Nicolas Cage. I'm pretty sure some of you guys have seen this. In the movie. They're at a boxing match. A politician is assassinated in the movie, and his name is Charles Kirkland. Okay, Think about Charlie Kirk. This is very, very weird. Okay? He was shot on the left side of his neck. The film takes place on September 10th. Rob. That's the. That's the date of the film.

[Pat]

This is what we were talking about yesterday.

[Vinnie]

This is what we were talking about yesterday, Rob. That's the poster. And then the boxer who plays who's in on the plan, who's doing a diversion. He wakes up on the ring. His name is Tyler, like, Tyler Robinson, and he's called the Executioner. Okay, weird. And then the tropical storm that hits in the. In the film is called Hurricane Jezebel. And for some of you guys that saw Megan, Megan Kelly just did a piece that's the name of the online magazine that allegedly hired witches in August to put a hex on Charlie. And the film. Parts of the film were filmed at the Trump Taj Mahal and hotel casino and the secret camera which films the assassination, but the videographer doesn't let anyone know. And guess what the tagline is of the movie. Rob, can you go to the. How. This is just random. A random occurrence. Go to my. I think I sent it to you. I actually sent the photo. Look at this. Look at the tagline. Believe everything except your eyes. That's the tagline. Like, that's just a random, random occurrence. But I just wanted people know because that's what's. That's not. Pat. The official narrative that they're telling us. I don't think it's official. I don't believe.

[Pat]

By the way, that's the problem with hiding stuff today. You can't do it.

[Vinnie]

Thank you.

[Pat]

You can't do it today. You got 3,500 phones that recorded things. You think you're going to be able to get away with it this time around? You're not going to be able to get away with it this time around. People are going to have to find. And by the way, Cash Patel has the opportunity this time around to increase the faith in the FBI in ways we've not seen before. If he does a couple things, and this is one of them. Especially right now with what happened. Whether they'll get to the bottom of it or not, I don't know. Adam, your thoughts on this?

[Adam]

Yeah, I think we're all asking the right questions that need to be asked. And again, ask questions, don't come up with your own conclusions. I see what's going on on the Internet. Everybody's a crime scene investigator at this point. Everybody's an investigative journalist. Everybody's a forensic analyst. Form your opinions, ask questions, don't state conclusions. You know what the snake eyes think. This is certainly eerie. You know, they say, does life imitate art? Does art imitate life? It's certainly eerie. I'm not saying this movie with Nicholas Cage from 1998 has anything to do with the murder of Charlie Kirk. What I'm seeing out there, that is actually very upsetting is now they're questioning Erica Kirk's involvement in Charles.

[Vinnie]

That's. That's just crazy.

[Pat]

That's.

[Vinnie]

That's just.

[Adam]

I agree with you, but do you not see what's going on? I've seen it as far fetched as it was an inside job. Someone on the Turning Point team on it to the point where Erica Kirk. It was a setup. She married Charlie because it was a setup from a foreign agency, whatever it may be. Saved the crocodile tears. You weren't really crying. So there's allegations that Erica Kirk had him assassinated so she could take over to guys. Yeah, no, let's live in reality for a second. Ask all these crazy questions. Don't draw conclusions. Because at some point there's a grieving widow who's like, oh, my God. Yeah, they're using my husband's assassination for views and clicks and fodder, and it tends to be somewhat disastrous for her.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, see, I don't believe Adam. With every situation, there's going to be crazy. But you know who I believe? Marine and army snipers who are professionals at this. That's all they know. Saying, this is not how it happened. This is not what it looks like. Tyler Robinson still hasn't admitted to doing it. His furry boyfriend is missing now. Okay, And Rob, where's the video of George Zinn? And I don't care. Guys, I'm gonna sit on this. This is one of the major pieces of evidence that nobody. Everybody's kind of dished it off because they found child porn on his phone. George Zinn. The. Immediately. Look at this, guys. The moment it happens, look, Charlie's been shot. Look at the middle of your screen. He stands up right there. He almost falls and he's right in the middle. He's waving his hat. He's. Wait. Immediately, people are running. What the hell happened? Somebody's been shot. Look at him. Look at him. He knows what was happening. Let's stop playing games. Why not?

[Adam]

How long does this video go for?

[Vinnie]

No, that's it, Adam. It's very weird. No, it's very weird, but hear me out.

[Adam]

Just because after the.

[Vinnie]

Adam, it just was shot. He's just shot. Look at everybody starting to react. Watch this. Watch now.

[Pat]

Boom.

[Vinnie]

Charlie's been shot. People don't know what's happening.

[Adam]

They're starting to run before that because they're on the ground right.

[Vinnie]

No, right now. Right now. Right now. He's just been shot. This guy knows in an improv moment I'm gonna try to help this shooter, that I had no idea what was gonna happen. And he does that. That guy is in on it. That guy knows what was gonna happen. And the fact that they're brushing him off because he had child porn.

[Adam]

Do they have him in custody right now?

[Vinnie]

Adam? I don't. He's been arrested. But if he bailed himself out, he's probably out.

[Tom]

They.

[Pat]

They.

[Adam]

They know where to find him?

[Vinnie]

No, they know where to find Tyler.

[Adam]

Robinson's in jail. And where's the Tyler.

[Vinnie]

The boyfriend vanished. He disappeared. I don't even know.

[Adam]

Allegedly. Let's get where this guy is. He can't just be running. Is he on the run?

[Vinnie]

What do you mean? Adam, you have a computer in front of you. Look it up. He vanished. He disappeared.

[Adam]

Well, there's an article here.

[Vinnie]

Nobody knows where he is. So what? I'm trans.

[Adam]

Boyfriend of Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin fled their former love nest.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, yeah, they're furry hairy or whatever the hell you want to call it. They're transferring the locals.

[Adam]

Say they never want to see him again. Yeah, he was led away for question when police swooped in. Yeah, to their three bed condo they shared. Shaken neighbors say the part time plumber has not been back.

[Vinnie]

He's a. That kid's a plumber?

[Adam]

Part time.

[Vinnie]

Yeah, I know what he's one.

[Adam]

Declaring good riddance. I never want to see either of them again.

[Vinnie]

Guess what? Don't be surprised if you add up. Don't be surprised.

[Adam]

I don't know if he fled. I don't think this is the Daily Mail gaslighting us. He moved, Adam.

[Vinnie]

Don't be surprised if you never hear from him again or he winds up, well, gone like he winds up dead.

[Adam]

If the FBI has or the police of Utah won't have any credibility. You're going to know exactly where this kid is at all times.

[Vinnie]

Well, where is he? Well, I want to know where he is.

[Adam]

I guarantee.

[Vinnie]

And I think, like I said last time, Pat, George Zinn is such a key element because from his behavior and the way that he's doing it, they're trying to make us look away because of the child porn, which is horrible. But that guy knew what was going to happen. If you're a sane person, Adam, that guy, there's no way put yourself in this situation, Pat. You're watching, by the way. You've been at 9 11, you saw the towers hit. You were involved with this whole Boston bombing thing. You just happen to be a 1 in 2 billion chance sitting there and you're watching Charlie Kirk speak. And the moment a bullet hits him in the throat, you stand up and you go, look at me. Give me a freaking break.

[Adam]

Obviously you're in on it, bro.

[Vinnie]

No, no, that he's the key element. He's the key. What did you know. Who told you to do that? I'm a grown man. I know how to speak for myself.

[Adam]

I'm just.

[Vinnie]

Let me do it.

[Adam]

Jumping. I'm not jumping and leaping to conclusions.

[Pat]

I don't know, I gotta tell you for if, what is the immediate reaction when there's a shooting in a place, sit down, everybody runs. It's a little weird.

[Adam]

Oh, it's very weird.

[Pat]

A little weird background that you have. So now where I'm going to with this is, look at that, dude. I want, I want to know exactly what happened here.

[Tom]

Thank you.

[Pat]

I want to know exactly what happened here. That's what I want to know.

[Adam]

This is a scale of 1 to 10. How much do you trust the authorities at this point? Whether it's the FBI, whether it's Cash Patel, whether it's Utah State Police, how much you trust them to do the.

[Pat]

Official narrative of Charlie Crook? That is what Tyler Robinson.

[Tom]

Yes.

[Vinnie]

No, no, no, no. Just trust. Hell no.

[Pat]

That is tighter. That's not what I'm saying is the narrative.

[Adam]

How much do you trust them to do the right thing?

[Pat]

Oh, trust.

[Tom]

That's three questions. Do I trust one question I don't.

[Pat]

Do I trust that they'll do the right thing?

[Adam]

That's the only question I'm asking.

[Pat]

I'm going to give you an answer. That's going to be a weird answer. I, I, I trust that they know if they get it right here, their credibility will go to the roof in ways we've never seen before but I trust they're going to do of that happening is 30. 30%, 35%.

[Adam]

Wow.

[Tom]

I'm right there with you. I'm right there with it. I'm 33.

[Vinnie]

Adam. James Comey just got indicted and he's. I don't give a damn who it is, Adam. Evil lives in every like you have family members that are evil.

[Pat]

Remember.

[Vinnie]

It'S a lord. No emotion. No, I know. It's. It's what amazes me is you're, you're shock of like. Wait, you mean the government and officials in the government would like. Adam. That's all they do and that's why their trust is at an all time low. Nobody trusts the government.

[Adam]

This is a new regime.

[Vinnie]

Adam Trump. Adam. Agency. The agency itself. I don't trust anybody because when they come in, Adam, their tune changes. So you just have. I hope to God and I pray and I have the hope that he told me to hope that somebody in there goes, wait a minute. You cannot let this guy die in vain. There's no freaking way. Because your narrative is wrong. You're off. Figure it out. Okay. Because we're not stupid. He keeps saying and he's right. There was 3, 000 people there. Everybody in their month. We don't even know. A lot of these people haven't posted anything. This, this, this, this.

[Pat]

I don't like this.

[Vinnie]

I want that camera footage.

[Tom]

I don't know. You're asking a lot of questions and there's validity to your questions. Do you trust Trump? Do you trust these people? I think what Vinnie is saying is and not to speak for Pat, but I think Pat just spoke for himself. I don't trust the narrative on Tyler. It doesn't sound like other people here trust the narrative. And Tyler and I've got low trust for the DOJ right now. They've an opportunity to get it right and I've got low trust for that. I can't answer the question in this. Do I trust Cash or Bondi or Trump? And you're asking about names. I'm only going to say that it hasn't been that long that Cash and Bondi have been in there and that the FBI's got a lot of rotten corners.

[Vinnie]

Thank you.

[Pat]

And by the way, I don't mind Adam being skeptical. I actually like it that, you know, Adam's taking a position that he's taking.

[Tom]

I'm agreeing with that. But he's asking about do you trust people? And I'm saying what I don't trust right now is administration of doj, everything, narrative.

[Pat]

Everything for me, Adam, is odds. Yeah. Everything for me is odds. You hire somebody and you say, odds are 60%, this guy's gonna be a good hire. You don't say 100%. This guy's gonna be great. You don't know. Odds are. And it takes him. You marry somebody, odds are, this temperament's gonna work with my temperament. Odds are. You don't know for a fact. I'm just saying there's a high opportunity here to gain the trust of the American people if they get this right. But it just, it looks very, very, very suspicious. Very, very suspicious. Anyways, gang, for some of you guys that are watching this that would like to be with us when Eric Trump is coming live to the podcast. And by the way, platinum members, you're going to get a chance to take a picture with the man as well. I can't tell you the date because it's only two members only. If you want to be a member of our Cigar Room Lounge, go to Boardroom Cigar. Boardroom Cigar Lounge, go to memberships. Submit your applications. It says join now. It's got the prices there, but it's not about the price. So first of all, fill out the applications because it's a background check process that we go through all the way. At the bottom, one of our guys will get a hold of you. You're going to get a chance to meet Eric Trump. Some people say he may run one day. Who knows? We got a lot of things to ask him about what he thinks with 2028, any of that stuff. So that's going to be available to you for those guys that want to apply for that. And we will give the dates to those that become members of when it's going to be. But it's going to be very, very soon. And if you're somebody that watches her take and they love the show as much as I do and you want to nominate certain ladies to be a part of it, or you yourself are watching and saying, I want to be considered. We have the form available as well. Rob, I think that one you pinned up to the top in the chat and the comment section for you to do that. Anyways, having said that, God bless. Have a great weekend. We'll do it again next week. Bye, bye, bye, bye.